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Posted by The Cruentus
 - Mar 07, 2015, 01:19:45 PM
I like that saying  ;D
Posted by Son Of Kane
 - Mar 07, 2015, 01:17:15 PM
IGN is a shithole of media and unfortunately it's popular due to the fact it used to be good in the days of Nintendo Power.

There's a saying, you can't spell IGNorant without IGN.
Posted by The Cruentus
 - Mar 07, 2015, 01:12:00 PM
Quote from: NetworkATTH on Mar 07, 2015, 02:49:04 AM
I fail to want to live in a world where critics give generally positive reviews over Thor Iron Man hype bait sequel train: sponsored by Mountain Dew: Doritos Burst 3 but don't give the same kind of opinions of Chappie. I mean the film definitely has downright flaws, but how the hell is it getting more negative reviews than say, a series of movies that suck ass.

I think these days critics can be too biased for their own good, look at IGN, the review that one guy gave Isolation was not only wrong but controversial because we all knew it was based on bias and frustration(of course hard mode is going to be hard  :P) Isolation turned out to be one of the best games around and reviewed as such, its also arguably the best Alien game since AVP2 by monolith.
Posted by Son Of Kane
 - Mar 07, 2015, 01:09:01 PM
Quote from: NetworkATTH on Mar 07, 2015, 02:49:04 AM
I fail to want to live in a world where critics give generally positive reviews over Thor Iron Man hype bait sequel train: sponsored by Mountain Dew: Doritos Burst 3 but don't give the same kind of opinions of Chappie. I mean the film definitely has downright flaws, but how the hell is it getting more negative reviews than say, a series of movies that suck ass.

Those films don't suck, it's just like a James Bond film- they're now familiar, comfortable and generally well made territory.
You'd struggle to find an original one among them, GoTG being the exception.

Chappie is original, it has a tougher job garnering appeal.
Posted by NetworkATTH
 - Mar 07, 2015, 02:49:04 AM
I fail to want to live in a world where critics give generally positive reviews over Thor Iron Man hype bait sequel train: sponsored by Mountain Dew: Doritos Burst 3 but don't give the same kind of opinions of Chappie. I mean the film definitely has downright flaws, but how the hell is it getting more negative reviews than say, a series of movies that suck ass.
Posted by TimmyTurnersDad
 - Mar 06, 2015, 07:28:26 PM
Quote from: Son Of Kane on Mar 06, 2015, 06:07:12 PM
Absolutely true, Ebert also didn't give Brazil a glowing review either but now it's a cult classic.

Which is a shame, I think, since Ebert was spot-on with that call. My favorite Terry Gilliam film is 12 Monkeys, but the whole debate on that and the problems of Brazil is a whole other topic entirely. :)

That said, I do agree that the critics can be wrong about films. It's not uncommon among now-classic films to find that they received negative reviews at the time of their release. However I can't really think of (m)any films that have had that happen since the rise of the Internet. Can anyone provide more recent examples of this happening?
Posted by Son Of Kane
 - Mar 06, 2015, 06:17:30 PM
Undoubtedly
Posted by The Cruentus
 - Mar 06, 2015, 06:11:13 PM
I think we can all agree though that critics were right about the AVP films :P

Posted by Son Of Kane
 - Mar 06, 2015, 06:07:12 PM
Absolutely true, Ebert also didn't give Brazil a glowing review either but now it's a cult classic.
Posted by Valaquen
 - Mar 06, 2015, 05:58:10 PM
Quote from: The Cruentus on Mar 06, 2015, 05:39:10 PM
Unfortunately the reviews of Chappie are not encouraging but public opinion can always be different to critic's, I believe the first predator wasn't given good reviews but was better received after some time passed but most of us probably loved it regardless.

A lot of professional critics didn't like ALIEN either: https://alienseries.wordpress.com/2012/10/29/bad-alien-reviews/

Ebert wrote what I thought was a pretty disinterested review of PREDATOR as well.

I guess it's up to the audiences and, if a film does have merit, the critics catch up eventually.
Posted by The Cruentus
 - Mar 06, 2015, 05:39:10 PM
Quote from: CainsSon on Mar 06, 2015, 05:32:58 PM
Quote from: The Cruentus on Mar 06, 2015, 03:53:14 PM
Quote from: Xenomorphine on Mar 06, 2015, 03:45:19 PM
Quote from: Weylan on Mar 05, 2015, 05:26:09 AM
Sorry Adam but Blomkamp's Alien so far sounds like a whiney butt hurt fanboy's fan fiction

Except we don't know anything about the story, aside from it not featuring Ripley 8.

Until we begin to get some concrete details about the story details, it honestly feels very immature for anyone to be prejudging this project. We have nothing to go on except for some concept art which may or may not even make it to the end result.

This is getting as bad as when people first saw the concept art and had already decided it would therefore be an awesome film.

Indeed, while I had my doubts about a retcon (not anymore) because it can come across as fan-service, I never resorted to bashing Neill or Alien V, the story is not even there yet, all we got is a bunch of concept art which may or may not ever be used and news that Ripley and Hicks may be back.  Instead of going crazy, people should hold their tongue until some part of the story is revealed, never judge a book by its cover, and assumptions are the mother of all f***ups.  :laugh:

After seeing CHAPPIE last night, I think he will make a good film based solely on the fact that he was able to create great characters that people will care about before things start getting shot up.

Unfortunately the reviews of Chappie are not encouraging but public opinion can always be different to critic's, I believe the first predator wasn't given good reviews but was better received after some time passed but most of us probably loved it regardless.
Posted by CainsSon
 - Mar 06, 2015, 05:32:58 PM
Quote from: The Cruentus on Mar 06, 2015, 03:53:14 PM
Quote from: Xenomorphine on Mar 06, 2015, 03:45:19 PM
Quote from: Weylan on Mar 05, 2015, 05:26:09 AM
Sorry Adam but Blomkamp's Alien so far sounds like a whiney butt hurt fanboy's fan fiction

Except we don't know anything about the story, aside from it not featuring Ripley 8.

Until we begin to get some concrete details about the story details, it honestly feels very immature for anyone to be prejudging this project. We have nothing to go on except for some concept art which may or may not even make it to the end result.

This is getting as bad as when people first saw the concept art and had already decided it would therefore be an awesome film.

Indeed, while I had my doubts about a retcon (not anymore) because it can come across as fan-service, I never resorted to bashing Neill or Alien V, the story is not even there yet, all we got is a bunch of concept art which may or may not ever be used and news that Ripley and Hicks may be back.  Instead of going crazy, people should hold their tongue until some part of the story is revealed, never judge a book by its cover, and assumptions are the mother of all f***ups.  :laugh:

After seeing CHAPPIE last night, I think he will make a good film based solely on the fact that he was able to create great characters that people will care about before things start getting shot up.
Posted by Samus007
 - Mar 06, 2015, 05:02:09 PM
Quote from: The Cruentus on Mar 06, 2015, 03:53:14 PM
Quote from: Xenomorphine on Mar 06, 2015, 03:45:19 PM
Quote from: Weylan on Mar 05, 2015, 05:26:09 AM
Sorry Adam but Blomkamp's Alien so far sounds like a whiney butt hurt fanboy's fan fiction

Except we don't know anything about the story, aside from it not featuring Ripley 8.

Until we begin to get some concrete details about the story details, it honestly feels very immature for anyone to be prejudging this project. We have nothing to go on except for some concept art which may or may not even make it to the end result.

This is getting as bad as when people first saw the concept art and had already decided it would therefore be an awesome film.


Indeed, while I had my doubts about a retcon (not anymore) because it can come across as fan-service, I never resorted to bashing Neill or Alien V, the story is not even there yet, all we got is a bunch of concept art which may or may not ever be used and news that Ripley and Hicks may be back.  Instead of going crazy, people should hold their tongue until some part of the story is revealed, never judge a book by its cover, and assumptions are the mother of all f***ups.  :laugh:

Ain't that the truth. I think we all assumed Prometheus would be the best Sci Fi movie since Alien and Blade Runner, and look how that turned out.  :-\  One never knows if something is going to be good or bad till it literally releases in theaters, I was one who thought that Heath Ledger would be a terrible Joker, boy was I ever completely wrong.
Posted by The Cruentus
 - Mar 06, 2015, 03:53:14 PM
Quote from: Xenomorphine on Mar 06, 2015, 03:45:19 PM
Quote from: Weylan on Mar 05, 2015, 05:26:09 AM
Sorry Adam but Blomkamp's Alien so far sounds like a whiney butt hurt fanboy's fan fiction

Except we don't know anything about the story, aside from it not featuring Ripley 8.

Until we begin to get some concrete details about the story details, it honestly feels very immature for anyone to be prejudging this project. We have nothing to go on except for some concept art which may or may not even make it to the end result.

This is getting as bad as when people first saw the concept art and had already decided it would therefore be an awesome film.

Indeed, while I had my doubts about a retcon (not anymore) because it can come across as fan-service, I never resorted to bashing Neill or Alien V, the story is not even there yet, all we got is a bunch of concept art which may or may not ever be used and news that Ripley and Hicks may be back.  Instead of going crazy, people should hold their tongue until some part of the story is revealed, never judge a book by its cover, and assumptions are the mother of all f***ups.  :laugh:
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