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Posted by DaddyYautja
 - Jun 14, 2012, 11:48:41 AM
 :laugh: that's true.
Posted by szkoki
 - Jun 14, 2012, 11:45:47 AM
Quote from: OpenMaw on Apr 29, 2012, 02:36:12 AM
I really hope they don't take David down the path of villainy. He's such an interesting character so far, that will be such a downer.

really, well David's role basicly in the movie is this



Spoiler
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Posted by Nightmare Asylum
 - Jun 14, 2012, 11:42:44 AM
Quote from: bleau on Jun 14, 2012, 07:50:05 AM
Sorry to bump this, but I have too. I stayed away from spoilers and stuff and now that I have seen Prometheus twice , I'v been watching these virals. This is my favorite one. Ridley Nailed this character imo.  I really hope to see all of these on Blu ray. The ted Talk was also great, but I here there is a longer 5 or 6 minute cut of that?

Its rumored that a longer cut exists, and that it may be on the Blu Ray.
Posted by bleau
 - Jun 14, 2012, 07:50:05 AM
Sorry to bump this, but I have too. I stayed away from spoilers and stuff and now that I have seen Prometheus twice , I'v been watching these virals. This is my favorite one. Ridley Nailed this character imo.  I really hope to see all of these on Blu ray. The ted Talk was also great, but I here there is a longer 5 or 6 minute cut of that?
Posted by OpenMaw
 - Apr 29, 2012, 02:36:12 AM
I really hope they don't take David down the path of villainy. He's such an interesting character so far, that will be such a downer.
Posted by chupacabras acheronsis
 - Apr 29, 2012, 12:56:50 AM
there's something weird about trying to portray a company supposed to be a distant, ominous and big-brotherish using a social media.
Posted by bioweapon
 - Apr 29, 2012, 12:36:00 AM
Not sure if this is real

There is something terribly wrong with David 8. The corporation is not disclosing the truth. I worked on the project with others who have disappeared or were terminated.

It's important that they be stopped. I don't know how much longer I can access this terminal, but the public must know the danger that will be unleashed.


http://www.prometheus-movie.com/community/forums/topic/3982

Posted by Zenzucht
 - Apr 25, 2012, 05:57:32 PM
"Not sure if serious"

https://twitter.com/#!/PrometheusMovie/status/195205750803529728

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This is deep   ::)
Posted by Bat Chain Puller
 - Apr 25, 2012, 05:55:07 PM
Quote from: Eva on Apr 25, 2012, 05:31:56 PM
Quote from: Xenomorphine on Apr 22, 2012, 05:00:26 AM
Quote from: Eva on Apr 21, 2012, 04:03:59 PM
I think it's a given that Ash was somewhat unique, meaning not coming from a mass production assembly line like David or Bishop.

Burke and Bishop stated otherwise.

Well, I did write in my comment, that Ashs chassis could be the standard android, but his physical appearance would have to be quite unique. Otherwise, the crew would have recognized him as an android. It makes very little sense to design an android meant to pose as a unique human being, if there's a million other androids looking exactly the same.  ;)

Eva. That stands to reason. The whole 'special mission' would have been no secret if they stuck an android on board at the last minute. Every suggestion from Ash would have been met with suspension from the word go.

Burke was 'white washing' and speaking in generalizations about the events of the Nostromo. Bishop only concurs that the generation of androids from that era (57 years back) were a bit twitchy. Ashes violence wasn't a product of his malfunctioning. His malfunctioning was a product of his violence. You could pretty plainly see that he was having trouble computing how to effectively kill Ripley. It was like watching a very old person with Alzheimer's disease trying to figure out what to so with once familiar cutlery.

It wasn't until he took that blow to the back of the head from Parker that he went really bonkers.
Posted by Eva
 - Apr 25, 2012, 05:31:56 PM
Quote from: Xenomorphine on Apr 22, 2012, 05:00:26 AM
Quote from: Eva on Apr 21, 2012, 04:03:59 PM
I think it's a given that Ash was somewhat unique, meaning not coming from a mass production assembly line like David or Bishop.

Burke and Bishop stated otherwise.

Well, I did write in my comment, that Ashs chassis could be the standard android, but his physical appearance would have to be quite unique. Otherwise, the crew would have recognized him as an android. It makes very little sense to design an android meant to pose as a unique human being, if there's a million other androids looking exactly the same.  ;)
Posted by OpenMaw
 - Apr 25, 2012, 04:56:04 PM
Quote from: Xenomorphine on Apr 22, 2012, 05:04:34 PM
Quote from: OpenMaw on Apr 22, 2012, 04:44:08 PM
Yeah see, I'd have a hard time buying that these androids can be cut in half, and have their heads knocked off, and still be in some fashion functional, and yet just a bump to the head is all it would take to send them into a homicidal incident.

Why?

Humans can survive all sorts of things, but damage something critical and they can act very weird. It doesn't take a huge amount of force, depending on what you're trying to do.

I've got an MP3 player which can survive being run over by a vehicle, but I'm sure that if I accidentally harmed it in some other way it wouldn't perform fabulously. :)

We have no way to know what Ash's structural limits were or how the processors were protected. Or, for that matter, if it had an existing error which was being aggravated.

I've always said that the method by which it attempted to kill Ripley signified something was very wrong. It's horridly inefficient. But it's always seemed like the intention was to show that Ripley's actions led to some sort of cognitive errors. Someone with more time than I can try and see if there are any quotes or anything on the various director commentaries to verify this aspect. :)

Don't forget, either, that Ash was acting apparently fine after decapitation. It seemed to be more of a situational thing.

He was bumped. Literally bumped, and he flipped his shit. No. It doesn't make sense that it would cause enough damage.

Yeah, humans can take damage, we can lose a limb or be stabbed and survive (provided the injury is treated of course) but on the same level as a synthetic? Not even... and WE can sustain a far harder blow to the head than Ash did without going into a coma or nuts. Ash was little pushed a little. That's it. It wasn't like Ripley took a bad to his freaking head for God's sake. You know it doesn't add up.
Posted by Predaker
 - Apr 25, 2012, 03:31:16 PM
They said the Titanic was unsinkable...
Posted by JKS1
 - Apr 25, 2012, 03:17:47 PM
Quote from: timiteh on Apr 25, 2012, 03:00:11 PM
My only gripings with this movie thus far are related to the technology of the Space Jockey who are supposed to be millions of years old.
First, i wonder how exactly such an advanced races do not have better protection of the access to their technology from intruders. This remind me of the alike of Stargate where humans were are able to do whatever they want in Goauld ship without being detected.

Second, i wonder how come a human ship seems able to damage a ship of this race to the point that this ship has no other choice than to crash. Is this race unable to build ships with protective  shield or an completely indestructible, compared to human weapons or means, hull ?
I have alway find disapointing the inability of an ancient space faring race to have significant protection agaisnt lesser races.Normally, such a race should have at least once met an agressive race with similar technology level. How then this race manage to defend itself agaisnt other advanced hostile races ?

Third, i also wonder how a member of this race is not able to protect itself against a face hugger ?
I mean such an advanced race should have several safeguards against creature as limited as face hugger.

This is quite disapointing for an ancient space travelling race.

mmmm....good points

i'll have to ignore all this when I finally get to watch it
Posted by Xenomorphine
 - Apr 25, 2012, 03:17:08 PM
Quote from: timiteh on Apr 25, 2012, 03:00:11 PM
First, i wonder how exactly such an advanced races do not have better protection of the access to their technology from intruders.

The place seems to have been dormant for a very long time. Things might have broken or simply corroded away. Also the possibility that, much like Egyptian tombs, once these powerful beings went to 'sleep', other species came along and plundered their facilities for anything particularly useful, meaning that, by the time human beings got there, much was stripped away.

QuoteSecond, i wonder how come a human ship seems able to damage a ship of this race to the point that this ship has no other choice than to crash. Is this race unable to build ships with protective  shield or an completely indestructible, compared to human weapons or means, hull ?

1: Kinetic energy, especially between large objects, is tremendous.

2: What makes you think energy shielding is possible in this franchise? Or even that, if it were, that whatever the Space Jockeys might have made would necessarily be enough to protect against what happens in this?

3: There is also the very real possibility that, since they've been in some sort of hibernation for a massively long time, a lot of their systems might not even have survived in a functional state.

4: We have no idea at what stage of technological development they were in before going in stasis. It's very possible that they might have completely missed certain areas of technology which we didn't and vice versa. For instance, what if we had mass produced the jet engine in the 1920s/1930s, when it was discovered? Our present world might have been very different! There's a science-fiction story which deals with this. I forget the title, but it's basically an alien invasion story and the hostile visitors are eventually thwarted and destroyed by the deployment of armoured tanks: In their development, they never came up with the concept of them. Just because you can build spaceships and lasers doesn't mean you came up with spears or guns. :)

5: What 'they' found hugely powerful might not be the same to us. An example of this is the old thing you often find in science-fiction, where an alien species is shown to be superior because they have organic ships. The actual truth being that organic ships would be ridiculously easy to beat and vulnerable to all kinds of things the 'normal' ones are not!
Posted by ryanjayhawk
 - Apr 25, 2012, 03:07:18 PM
Quote from: timiteh on Apr 25, 2012, 03:00:11 PM
My only gripings with this movie thus far are related to the technology of the Space Jockey who are supposed to be millions of years old.
First, i wonder how exactly such an advanced races do not have better protection of the access to their technology from intruders. This remind me of the alike of Stargate where humans were are able to do whatever they want in Goauld ship without being detected.

Second, i wonder how come a human ship seems able to damage a ship of this race to the point that this ship has no other choice than to crash. Is this race unable to build ships with protective  shield or an completely indestructible, compared to human weapons or means, hull ?
I have alway find disapointing the inability of an ancient space faring race to have significant protection agaisnt lesser races.Normally, such a race should have at least once met an agressive race with similar technology level. How then this race manage to defend itself agaisnt other advanced hostile races ?

Third, i also wonder how a member of this race is not able to protect itself against a face hugger ?
I mean such an advanced race should have several safeguards against creature as limited as face hugger.

This is quite disapointing for an ancient space travelling race.

Agreed...

If you take away the idea from Independence Day that we would be able to "hack" and alien computer system and infect it with a virus... which seems completely implausible, then they pretty much got the rest right in terms of us being completely unable to do much of anything except hide.

I'm not saying even an advanced race wouldn't be susceptible to attack, but not by ramming their ship... and it appears that the United States has more security for things they want to keep secret than the Jockey's...
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