Posted by Extroheal
- Mar 25, 2007, 10:42:05 PMBouvetoya Island is so isolated from the rest of the world that it may as well be on another planet. The Predators always nuke an alien infestation after a failed hunt so this doesn't contradict the alien movies at all. Now, if Weyland-Yutani ever got aliens on Earth it would be a completely different story since they want to preserve the aliens at any cost and it may lead to a global alien infestation like in the novel Earth Hive and its sequels.
The incident on Bouvetoya Island would become yet another entry in the long list of supposed alien encounters and I don't think anyone would believe Lex even with the spear as evidence, assuming that she survives at all.
The incident on Bouvetoya Island would become yet another entry in the long list of supposed alien encounters and I don't think anyone would believe Lex even with the spear as evidence, assuming that she survives at all.
Posted by Pax
- Mar 15, 2007, 12:01:17 AMClouds would surely be a hinderance to satellite snooping, and the weather did seem pretty bad during AVP. However, the thermal imaging would still be able to penetrate (because, they y'know, did during the movie (new tunnel vs. old tunnel stuffs). However, the Queen, which is the primary source of potential weirdness visible wouldn't be, since Aliens don't show up on heat scanners, and the Predator would probably just look like a big dude. There is the matter of the Predator ship, but one could assume that the Preds have been flying circles around human sensor tech just as long as we've had it, so, again, nada.
The only positive note is that surely Weyland Industries would have their satellite in the area and looking; after all, their CEO was heading down there personally, and on a fact-finding mission to boot. They wouldn't miss a chance to see anything that went on, to capture any data. Unfortuatnely, there probably just wouldn't have been much to catch.
Of course, there was a hollowed out alien skull and tail-tip laying around in the snow. Makes me think of the end of the first Terminator.
-Pax
The only positive note is that surely Weyland Industries would have their satellite in the area and looking; after all, their CEO was heading down there personally, and on a fact-finding mission to boot. They wouldn't miss a chance to see anything that went on, to capture any data. Unfortuatnely, there probably just wouldn't have been much to catch.
Of course, there was a hollowed out alien skull and tail-tip laying around in the snow. Makes me think of the end of the first Terminator.
-Pax
Posted by Newsfop
- Mar 11, 2007, 01:49:33 AMLex has one remaining shred of evidence, maybe two. She's got the telescoping spear given to her by the elder. And if she's treated quickly enough, there may be a chance for medical staff to swab her scar to test for the chemical makeup of what caused her skin deformity.
As for satellite observation, such things as clouds prevent one from seeing activity. And the second thing is you can only pick up ground activity when the satellite is specifically told to do so. Generally when you unearth an ancient pyramid, you're not exactly expecting anything to still be alive.
As for satellite observation, such things as clouds prevent one from seeing activity. And the second thing is you can only pick up ground activity when the satellite is specifically told to do so. Generally when you unearth an ancient pyramid, you're not exactly expecting anything to still be alive.
Posted by SiL
- Mar 10, 2007, 10:38:29 PMThe novel only goes so far as to say the Derelict gave a detailed description of the creature, but not that it matched any existing recorded organisms. Ash was spilling the beans, why would he hide it?
Posted by SM
- Mar 10, 2007, 10:21:56 PMNo the Company knew about a hostile organism the Jockies were warning people to stay away from. There's no proof they knew about the Alien with a capital A.
Posted by Vader the White
- Mar 10, 2007, 04:17:15 PMQuote from: Meathead320 on Jan 15, 2007, 05:00:47 PMI did. They happened to know about for Alien to be able to Ash on board and know about what the derilct signal really was.
Does any one here think that Weyland-Yutani did know about the alien before A1?
Posted by SM
- Jan 23, 2007, 04:42:26 AMQuoteearth gets pretty much destroyed eventually anyway if you watch the alternate cut of Alien Resurrection.
PARIS has been destroyed, and southern Africa is uninhabited (as too is central Australia apparently), but there would be significant human habitation otherwise Call wouldn't have been trying to save it.
Posted by RidgeTop
- Jan 22, 2007, 10:00:08 PMearth gets pretty much destroyed eventually anyway if you watch the alternate cut of Alien Resurrection. I think that Ripley was more afraid of the Aliens destroying humanity, than earth per say, because Humans had already colonized many different worlds.
Posted by yautja99
- Jan 21, 2007, 05:40:36 AMI hate this Plothole so much cant they stop making Xenomorphs be on Earth this early.
Posted by yautja99
- Jan 16, 2007, 05:57:49 PMI know in AVP2 Xenomorphs will be running around a small town.
Posted by maledoro
- Jan 16, 2007, 04:42:56 AMQuote from: Meathead320 on Jan 16, 2007, 01:55:25 AMThe word you skated by is "legal". Sure, Halliburton may have put people in harm's way, but would you show me how it was done blatantly and legally?Quote from: maledoroAs for laws, how likely do you really think it would be if a government passed a law saying that it's alright for a company to bring harm to its employees for the company's financial gain?
Ever heard of Halliburton?
Posted by Meathead320
- Jan 16, 2007, 01:55:25 AMQuote from: maledoroAs for laws, how likely do you really think it would be if a government passed a law saying that it's alright for a company to bring harm to its employees for the company's financial gain?
Ever heard of Halliburton?
Posted by maledoro
- Jan 15, 2007, 07:19:00 PMQuote from: Meathead320 on Jan 15, 2007, 07:04:06 PMIf it were. Most likely, the Company had the satellite move on to other areas to see what else is happening.
I'm not saying just an explosion, I am saying afterward. The fight with the Queen, Predator, and Lex.
All of that can be captured in good detail with a satellite.
Quote from: Meathead320 on Jan 15, 2007, 07:04:06 PMNot all satellites. It's unlikely that Weyland would have one as powerful as the military's. Not to mention why a robotics manufacturer would need a satellite, anyway.
Today we can get such good intelligence from satellites that we can pick out individual faces.
Quote from: Meathead320 on Jan 15, 2007, 07:04:06 PMI'll believe it when I hear it. But, until then...
Weyland industries could be ahead in that area of technology, and managed to a get a decent look at the Queen, the Predator, and even the Pred ship at the end.
Quote from: Meathead320 on Jan 15, 2007, 07:04:06 PMBut the Company knew all along that it was a warning and reprogrammed the computer to be convinced that it was a distress signal and had Ash onboard to back up the lie.
Now as far as Ash wanting to exaggerate company policy in order to get the expedition down there, perhaps.
We have no idea what laws are like in that time and place, and they were originally told, by ash I am presuming, that is was a distress signal, not a warning.
As for laws, how likely do you really think it would be if a government passed a law saying that it's alright for a company to bring harm to its employees for the company's financial gain? Those politicians wouldn't even be impeached as they would be lynched in the streets by angry mobs.
Quote from: Meathead320 on Jan 15, 2007, 07:04:06 PMA warning that didn't tell the Company that we had encountered this species before on Earth...
It was only when it was too late that Ripley discovered it to have been a warning.
Posted by Meathead320
- Jan 15, 2007, 07:04:06 PMI'm not saying just an explosion, I am saying afterward. The fight with the Queen, Predator, and Lex.
All of that can be captured in good detail with a satellite.
Today we can get such good intelligence from satellites that we can pick out individual faces.
Weyland industries could be ahead in that area of technology, and managed to a get a decent look at the Queen, the Predator, and even the Pred ship at the end.
All of which they would be very interested in.
Now as far as Ash wanting to exaggerate company policy in order to get the expedition down there, perhaps.
We have no idea what laws are like in that time and place, and they were originally told, by ash I am presuming, that is was a distress signal, not a warning.
It was only when it was too late that Ripley discovered it to have been a warning.
All of that can be captured in good detail with a satellite.
Today we can get such good intelligence from satellites that we can pick out individual faces.
Weyland industries could be ahead in that area of technology, and managed to a get a decent look at the Queen, the Predator, and even the Pred ship at the end.
All of which they would be very interested in.
Now as far as Ash wanting to exaggerate company policy in order to get the expedition down there, perhaps.
We have no idea what laws are like in that time and place, and they were originally told, by ash I am presuming, that is was a distress signal, not a warning.
It was only when it was too late that Ripley discovered it to have been a warning.
Posted by maledoro
- Jan 15, 2007, 06:08:43 PMYou know what a nuclear explosion would look like on a satellite telemetry? A big, white, blurry flash. For all they know, it was another explosion like the one that took place on Bouvet Island back on September 22, 1979. No one knows which government was responsible for that. I'm sure that Weyland Industries would not want to snoop around those parts for fear of tangling with the American government or another country's military. Not to mention that the Norwegians would be pissed about the Company's trespassing.
As for the Company's policy to investigate "systematized transmissions", I think that Ash was exaggerating when he had said that in order to provide a sturdier anchor to his argument. If the Company would have such a mandate, it would be illegal. To have ships knowingly stop and investigate a warning would possibly put humans in harm's way and is therefore unlawful.
As for the Company's policy to investigate "systematized transmissions", I think that Ash was exaggerating when he had said that in order to provide a sturdier anchor to his argument. If the Company would have such a mandate, it would be illegal. To have ships knowingly stop and investigate a warning would possibly put humans in harm's way and is therefore unlawful.
