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Those are the BSP's?
I dig 'em.
God bless you!
You made my day!
You made my week!
You made my month!!!!
I have no words...
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We all were waiting for this so much....
Thank you!
Winston's Pred in the last pic!
The predator masks look very unique, but it's hard to get a good look at the them. But the suits look pretty good to me.
The predators face in the background of the last picture with Adrien Brody and Oleg Taktarov looks pretty good from a distance.
Holly Cow....All my worries about this movis has gone away this is going to be a GREAT MOVIE!!!!
The Black Super Predators look great! The whole cast looks good! Hell, Brody looks like a badass in the last picture! Very awesome!
Crap I cant stop looking at the pics...I feel like a lil kid in a candi store. :D
As far as i see, there is no freakin' "hellish mix of medieval knight and
samurai".
Stay tuned, will be searching for better quality pics.
This seriously allays a lot of my fears about this movie.
Quote from: DeadDay on Jan 16, 2010, 05:38:43 AM
As far as i see, there is no freakin' "hellish mix of medieval knight and
samurai".
Stay tuned, will be searching for better quality pics.
Oh, yes... They looks... normal. :D
Quote from: War Wager on Jan 16, 2010, 05:26:09 AM
Winston's Pred in the last pic!
Winston's ideas are alive! It make me impossible happy! :D :D
All my fears are dead... (almost)...
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Woo Woo Woo!
So many fears have just turned into dust.
Seriously,I nearly jumped when I got a glimpse of what I though was a Pred suit in a thumbnail.
The Predator suit is back for the first time since 1990.
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YOU ARE THE FREAKING MAN
DeadDay.....YOU RULE DUDE for getting these PICS 8)
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This is not BSP, this is Classic, I suppose...?? In the background??
He is beautiful...
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WOW!!! That predator looks f**kin badass!!!
Looks very reminiscent of the original predator. Awesome!
Yes you are correct.
Damn. Those Preds look good! Maybe this will be good.
Totem looks... odd. If it's totem, of course.
I didn't see any pictures of Derek Mears, unless I missed him
Woah!!
pretty good!!!! more plz!!!!
Quote from: DeadDay on Jan 16, 2010, 06:05:31 AM
Totem looks... odd. If it's totem, of course.
Totem should look odd. It's alien species totem, so it's supposed to be odd... ;D
If it's totem of course... ;)
Quote from: DeadDay on Jan 16, 2010, 05:13:34 AM
Here you go:
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This is Brian Steele (http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0824498/ (http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0824498/)), isn't he?
looks like it, and he has a lot of Monster experience
Well the BSP's look great, I see ther is no trible canons on the pred's shoulders which is good, and the reg pred looks great. Now I just hope the end is better than what was in the script and there is no black blood.
HOLY SH*T
I HOPE people quit bitching now.... BSP's look f**king BADASS!!!!
Thanks so much!
I was expecting the BSP's to be REALLY different but there not, which is good!
The Pred on the right looks rather chubby in the torso area lol
Quote from: chrisr232007 on Jan 16, 2010, 06:27:30 AM
Well the BSP's look great, I see ther is no trible canons on the pred's shoulders which is good, and the reg pred looks great. Now I just hope the end is better than what was in the script and there is no black blood.
IMHO with appearance like these he can't have black blood, it would be illogical. It's seems that they keep canon at all, they use Winston's ideas, so about black blood it could be this same... Forgotten, stupid idea.
Quote from: keylight-di on Jan 16, 2010, 06:35:44 AM
Quote from: chrisr232007 on Jan 16, 2010, 06:27:30 AM
Well the BSP's look great, I see ther is no trible canons on the pred's shoulders which is good, and the reg pred looks great. Now I just hope the end is better than what was in the script and there is no black blood.
IMHO with appearance like these he can't have black blood, it would be illogical. It's seems that they keep canon at all, they use Winston's ideas, so about black blood it could be this same... Forgotten, stupid idea.
I hope so.
Even Royce looks like a complete BADASS. F**k I can't wait to see the damn trailer!!!
Question. Which predator is the Black Super Predator???
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This is Brian Steele (http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0824498/ (http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0824498/)), isn't he?
Yeah I wasn't sure whether that was him or not, but it does look a lot like Brian Steele. I had no idea he was part of the film.
Don't think I see any pictures of Derek Mears on set...
Quote from: Hybrid PM on Jan 16, 2010, 06:38:18 AM
Even Royce looks like a complete BADASS. F**k I can't wait to see the damn trailer!!!
I'm with you brother!
BTW does anybody know how tall these guys playing the Preds are?
I just noticed, is that a normal Pred mask in the first pic?
Quote from: Maxwell on Jan 16, 2010, 06:42:11 AM
Quote from: Hybrid PM on Jan 16, 2010, 06:38:18 AM
Even Royce looks like a complete BADASS. F**k I can't wait to see the damn trailer!!!
I'm with you brother!
BTW does anybody know how tall these guys playing the Preds are?
I just noticed, is that a normal Pred mask in the first pic?
Probably anywhere from 6'5 to 6'11. Tall enough for a Predator!
I think right guy in suite is Derek:
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Quote from: Maxwell on Jan 16, 2010, 06:42:11 AM
I just noticed, is that a normal Pred mask in the first pic?
Damn thats someones mask..... Maybe BSP's mask. But which one is the BSP?
All three, i guess. :)
Quote from: Hybrid PM on Jan 16, 2010, 06:49:42 AM
Damn thats someones mask..... Maybe BSP's mask. But which one is the BSP?
I think it's all three of them, but I'm not sure.
But if you look at the back of the pred in the first pic, it doesn't match the backs of the other three in the pic with Robert Rod. So maybe there's another pred??
Are there four Predators in that first pic look at the guy in the right side of the pic by thet guy in the the hoody ???
I figured they were all BSP's but I don't know for sure.
*I really like how the "Predators" logos that are on the back of the chairs in some of the photos have the same font as the original films and also the green tint looks great!
I think your right.
And is the guy with the hat in the first pic wearing a Pred suit? Sure looks like it!
Quote from: Maxwell on Jan 16, 2010, 06:57:15 AM
I think your right.
And is the guy with the hat in the first pic wearing a Pred suit? Sure looks like it!
Ya I know right look at his chest kinds looks like the org pred chest that was hanging in the other pics...
Quote from: Hybrid PM on Jan 16, 2010, 06:49:42 AM
Quote from: Maxwell on Jan 16, 2010, 06:42:11 AM
I just noticed, is that a normal Pred mask in the first pic?
Damn thats someones mask..... Maybe BSP's mask. But which one is the BSP?
Quote from: Maxwell on Jan 16, 2010, 06:52:39 AM
Quote from: Hybrid PM on Jan 16, 2010, 06:49:42 AM
Damn thats someones mask..... Maybe BSP's mask. But which one is the BSP?
I think it's all three of them, but I'm not sure.
In script there are: 1 BSP and the rest are SP. Who knows how this script looks now. But it seems totally changed. Or almost.
Quote from: chrisr232007 on Jan 16, 2010, 06:58:46 AM
Quote from: Maxwell on Jan 16, 2010, 06:57:15 AM
I think your right.
And is the guy with the hat in the first pic wearing a Pred suit? Sure looks like it!
Ya I know right look at his chest kinds looks like the org pred chest that was hanging in the other pics...
Yeah the guy with the beenie is definitely wearing a predator suit, and it does look like the original body design.
I wonder which one is Derek Mears? Brian Steele is the pred on the left. The armor matches up. But not sure about the others.
Look at his chest. I think that's (only) normal pred from pic with totem.
I think Derek is the one on the right.
Holy crap, the Pred mask in the first pic has tusks! Who else noticed this?
EDIT:
You guys are right, that one suit looks extremely like the original!
Yeah I saw that.... That pred must be Derek Mears.
Quote from: Hybrid PM on Jan 16, 2010, 07:04:36 AM
Yeah I saw that.... That pred must be Derek Mears.
Yeah I noticed that too, and the jaw bone that's on the other predator on the left looks interesting. Not sure how I feel about the tusks on the predator but I'd like to see some better quality pictures first.
What makes you think that predator with the tusks is Derek Mears?
It just looks like the most badass one and the other two guys armor matches the pred on the left and the middle one.
Quote from: Maxwell on Jan 16, 2010, 07:03:20 AM
Holy crap, the Pred mask in the first pic has tusks! Who else noticed this?
Elephant mask, heh.
The pred who has the mask with the tusks, thats Mears ;)!
.....I've got to admit.. They do look good. Especially the normal Predator, who looks EXACTLY like Diablo Predator aka Anytime.
....Maybe this movie will be good...
I can rest a bit easier.
-Rakai'Thwei
Quote from: Uncanny Psycho on Jan 16, 2010, 07:11:34 AM
The pred who has the mask with the tusks, thats Mears ;)!
Yeah thats what I'm thinking.
OK guys, the thing's i noticed.
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I can definately say... I can rest easier.
I'd say my hopes are up to 70%, I'm still treading lightly though. But I am definately blown away.
30% of my concerns are still there... Lets just hope they don't keep the black blood, Hanzo slicing a SP in half, and the other rediculous things.
I also hope in the sequels, if there are any, they don't change or add unnecessary things to the culture.
I gotta say.. it's now looking good.
-Rakai'Thwei
I like the blood on Tophers face..... "Oh thats not mine" ;D
Quote from: Hybrid PM on Jan 16, 2010, 07:22:45 AM
I like the blood on Tophers face..... "Oh thats not mine" ;D
Hell yeah dude.
What have we been telling these people all along? This thing looks monumental.
Quote from: Pvt. Hicks on Jan 16, 2010, 07:41:43 AM
Quote from: Hybrid PM on Jan 16, 2010, 07:22:45 AM
I like the blood on Tophers face..... "Oh thats not mine" ;D
Hell yeah dude.
What have we been telling these people all along? This thing looks monumental.
I agree a 100% with you.
These pics are good, I have more faith in this film now.
According to Taktarov Brian Steele and two other dudes are 'Super predators' and pred near totem is normal one.
It's the best thing which real Pred-fan could expect. ;D
Normal, Winstons Preds.
Thank you, DeadDay. :D
This looks great.
Seriously, look at how small 6'2'' Rob Rod is compared to those predators!
Great timing, what a wonderful birthday gift.
Am i the only one who really isn't quite f**king impressed with the Predators??
I'm underwhelmed by the Black super Predators. They actually look like i could wipe the floor with them, they are too small... and i don't know, the overall design isn't impressive to me.
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Looks really sweet, but I'm missing the net and a few patches of armour...the design itself looks really good though, very much in spirit with the original.
Following the release of the photos, I can not says I'm that suprised or shocked. I have always had faith in RR and co like any true Predator fan! I may not know the difference between a Yautja or a Hish but I know only a retard bad mouths the look of something based on a draft script without seeing the final product.
Feeling very smug!
It appears that RR have got the looks down to a big f**king T, hopefully the direction is top notch and the performances so we end up with a fantastic movie.
I believe that this could be the only Predator movie, apart from P1, to be both a critical and commersial success.
johnny , for once me and you are on the same page.
These are set pics, so hard to tell, but my initial feeling is they are just not "super" enough. Plus the Proportions of the SP's look a little..... off?
The totem pred is spot on though.
I'm with Johnny.
I'm gonna get labeled a hater or whatever for this, but those Super Preds look ... eh. They don't look imposing or menacing, and their armour looks bland as all get out. It's like they slapped some vacuformed plastic over the suits and called it a day :-\
Are you sure they're black super Predators? My first reaction is they look a little short. I thought the designs would be a lot of different. But they're surely better than what was described in the script.
Quote from: Highland on Jan 16, 2010, 09:07:33 AM
johnny , for once me and you are on the same page.
These are set pics, so hard to tell, but my initial feeling is they are just not "super" enough. Plus the Proportions of the SP's look a little..... off?
The totem pred is spot on though.
Did you like the super concept in the first place?
I don't think anybody does, really.
Quote from: Darkness on Jan 16, 2010, 09:14:16 AM
My first reaction is they look a little short.
That's what happens when you don't put a seven foot tall actor in the suit.
It could be the camera angle.
Yeah I agree with Johnny and all your guys thoughts. The overall film with touch ups and camera angles will make the predators appear differently on screen, so it's hard to judge them from these set photos. We just need to see a trailer now, because that'll really show us what we're in store for.
Quote from: Darkness on Jan 16, 2010, 09:16:21 AM
It could be the camera angle.
Well, no.
Everyone in the suits is under seven feet. They look short because, relatively, they
are short.
They're going to need camera angles to make them look
bigger in the movie.
Quote from: Darkness on Jan 16, 2010, 09:14:16 AM
Are you sure they're black super Predators?
I really don't see why everyone thinks they are. For regular preds they are really impressive, but there is nothing
super about them.
To clarify:
I dont think the designs look bad in any capacity, i just think they look really random.
If you make a movie with 'Super' predators, at least make them super, make them stand out so you can really tell that they are stronger etc.
Seriously, the original in that pic looks like it can rip those 'super' ones a new one 24/7.
Quote from: Undeadite on Jan 16, 2010, 09:21:03 AM
I really don't see why everyone thinks they are. For regular preds they are really impressive, but there is nothing super about them.
Because the script states one regular Predator, a handful of "Super Predators".
We've seen the single regular Predator. If they aren't it, then logically they're the "Super" Predators.
Quote from: Johnny Handsome on Jan 16, 2010, 09:22:06 AM
I dont think the designs look bad in any capacity, i just think they look really random.
I think they look pretty bland as designs, period.
Brody looks like a bad ass!! The BSP and SP looks good, there is a normal Pred.....
This is fantastic. It feels good to have faith in something and for it to pay off! Hopefully, fingers crossed, this film turns out to be great!
;D
The script may have been changed. Maybe there's more standard Predators.
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Quote from: Highland on Jan 16, 2010, 09:07:33 AM
johnny , for once me and you are on the same page.
These are set pics, so hard to tell, but my initial feeling is they are just not "super" enough. Plus the Proportions of the SP's look a little..... off?
The totem pred is spot on though.
Did you like the super concept in the first place?
That's the Irony of it all , I was one of the few guys that actually looked forward to the Predators getting "Juiced up" I was hoping for something a little more...menacing is the word maybe? (in a artistic way though, not AVP style)
I just don't think there's anything instantly obvious to the casual viewer that these boys are nasty work.
Funny that it's turned out in the reverse and the initial haters are probably the ones wiping the sweat off their head.
Quote from: SiL on Jan 16, 2010, 09:11:28 AM
I'm with Johnny.
I'm gonna get labeled a hater or whatever for this, but those Super Preds look ... eh. They don't look imposing or menacing, and their armour looks bland as all get out. It's like they slapped some vacuformed plastic over the suits and called it a day :-\
with touch up ect they will look a lot better and more menacing.
Quote from: Pvt. Hicks on Jan 16, 2010, 09:00:03 AM
Seriously, look at how small 6'2'' Rob Rod is compared to those predators!
Great timing, what a wonderful birthday gift.
Haha yeah for me too, my B-day is tomorrow, the 17th.
Quote from: Darkness on Jan 16, 2010, 09:27:27 AM
The script may have been changed. Maybe there's more standard Predators.
Don't think so, those are the super ones.
They look better than what was described in the script, but much less impressive than the original, or really any Predator from
Predator 2.
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Quote from: Highland on Jan 16, 2010, 09:07:33 AM
johnny , for once me and you are on the same page.
These are set pics, so hard to tell, but my initial feeling is they are just not "super" enough. Plus the Proportions of the SP's look a little..... off?
The totem pred is spot on though.
Did you like the super concept in the first place?
That's the Irony of it all , I was one of the few guys that actually looked forward to the Predators getting "Juiced up" I was hoping for something a little more...menacing is the word maybe? (in a artistic way though, not AVP style)
I just don't think there's anything instantly obvious to the casual viewer that these boys are nasty work.
Funny that it's turned out in the reverse and the initial haters are probably the ones wiping the sweat off their head.
Yeah I remember that you was one of the few who liked the BSP.
I can appreciate what you are saying but what we see now is probably 60-70% of what we will end up seeing in the cinema. Im sure with some touching up and enhancing by the SFX team they will look more super and evil
Quote from: Darkness on Jan 16, 2010, 09:27:27 AM
The script may have been changed. Maybe there's more standard Predators.
Hm, Oleg (and other crew members, i suppose) still call them 'super'.
Quote from: SiL on Jan 16, 2010, 09:24:04 AM
Because the script states one regular Predator, a handful of "Super Predators".
Huh, I did not read the script, so I was unaware of the ratio between regular and super preds. I hope there were some rewrites, because I stick by my initial opinion. Not much super goin' on.
Quote from: Johnny Handsome on Jan 16, 2010, 09:28:54 AM
Quote from: Darkness on Jan 16, 2010, 09:27:27 AM
The script may have been changed. Maybe there's more standard Predators.
Don't think so, those are the super ones.
They look better than what was described in the script, but much less impressive than the original, or really any Predator from Predator 2.
To be honest, I might even slip in both AVP predators....... *takes cover*
Oh no, they don't look anywhere near as bulky as the AvP Predators.
Quote from: Mystic Ninja on Jan 16, 2010, 09:30:13 AM
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Quote from: Highland on Jan 16, 2010, 09:07:33 AM
johnny , for once me and you are on the same page.
These are set pics, so hard to tell, but my initial feeling is they are just not "super" enough. Plus the Proportions of the SP's look a little..... off?
The totem pred is spot on though.
Did you like the super concept in the first place?
That's the Irony of it all , I was one of the few guys that actually looked forward to the Predators getting "Juiced up" I was hoping for something a little more...menacing is the word maybe? (in a artistic way though, not AVP style)
I just don't think there's anything instantly obvious to the casual viewer that these boys are nasty work.
Funny that it's turned out in the reverse and the initial haters are probably the ones wiping the sweat off their head.
Yeah I remember that you was one of the few who liked the BSP.
I can appreciate what you are saying but what we see now is probably 60-70% of what we will end up seeing in the cinema. Im sure with some touching up and enhancing by the SFX team they will look more super and evil
I appreciate what your saying but whats to "touch up"?
Theres no stylized armour, helmets look pretty standard, all i got left is weapons which wasn't really the point of the whole "super" bit.
I'm not hating on them or anything, just a bit miffed at the whole idea now.
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The script may have been changed. Maybe there's more standard Predators.
Don't think so, those are the super ones.
They look better than what was described in the script, but much less impressive than the original, or really any Predator from Predator 2.
To be honest, I might even slip in both AVP predators....... *takes cover*
Wolf, maybe.
Scar? HELL NO!!!
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Quote from: Darkness on Jan 16, 2010, 09:27:27 AM
The script may have been changed. Maybe there's more standard Predators.
Hm, Oleg (and other crew members, i suppose) still call them 'super'.
How do you know that?
And where did you get those pics in the first place?
Quote from: Darkness on Jan 16, 2010, 09:35:15 AM
Oh no, they don't look anywhere near as bulky as the AvP Predators.
They don't look anywhere near as well made either. Hard to tell at this stage.
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johnny , for once me and you are on the same page.
These are set pics, so hard to tell, but my initial feeling is they are just not "super" enough. Plus the Proportions of the SP's look a little..... off?
The totem pred is spot on though.
Did you like the super concept in the first place?
That's the Irony of it all , I was one of the few guys that actually looked forward to the Predators getting "Juiced up" I was hoping for something a little more...menacing is the word maybe? (in a artistic way though, not AVP style)
I just don't think there's anything instantly obvious to the casual viewer that these boys are nasty work.
Funny that it's turned out in the reverse and the initial haters are probably the ones wiping the sweat off their head.
Yeah I remember that you was one of the few who liked the BSP.
I can appreciate what you are saying but what we see now is probably 60-70% of what we will end up seeing in the cinema. Im sure with some touching up and enhancing by the SFX team they will look more super and evil
I appreciate what your saying but whats to "touch up"?
Theres no stylized armour, helmets look pretty standard, all i got left is weapons which wasn't really the point of the whole "super" bit.
I'm not hating on them or anything, just a bit miffed at the whole idea now.
whats your definition of Super?
For me it was obviously bulky in terms of muscles and bigger in height. I also believed that the new Preds are more violent then regular Preds, which we wont be able to tell until we see the film.
The AvP preds may have been more menacing, but these still overall look more realistic and less... well, Im just gonna say it, fat and funny looking.
Quote from: Highland on Jan 16, 2010, 09:39:43 AM
They don't look anywhere as near well made either. Hard to tell at this stage.
You're kidding, right?
Quote from: Undeadite on Jan 16, 2010, 09:41:11 AM
The AvP preds may have been more menacing, but these still overall look more realistic and less... well, Im just gonna say it, fat and funny looking.
Quote from: Highland on Jan 16, 2010, 09:39:43 AM
They don't look anywhere as near well made either. Hard to tell at this stage.
You're kidding, right?
No seriously, the predators in those photos look Fan fic at best.
I'd laugh if the BSP was the black guy...
Quote from: Johnny Handsome on Jan 16, 2010, 09:39:36 AM
How do you know that?
And where did you get those pics in the first place?
All from his page on "russian facebook". :)
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Quote from: Johnny Handsome on Jan 16, 2010, 09:39:36 AM
How do you know that?
And where did you get those pics in the first place?
All from his page on "russian facebook". :)
Link?
Why is Mombassa floating in one of the photos or is he strapped to something?
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Link?
http://vkontakte.ru/album16534926_98760174 (http://vkontakte.ru/album16534926_98760174)
@ Mystic
My idea of "super" was a little like that comic book photo that was hanging around here. Something a bit more slick, a bit more evil, Red eyes through the visor, distinctive armour, not bigger though, just the original predator with some stylized design.
Wishfull thinking.
Just the way his mask looks, it looks as if the middle one would be the one with the falcon, but I think that was the BSP so unless that's him, I duno...The one on the right, to be honest looks EXTREMELY bulky lol almost like a fat guy, but I think the gigantic helm and big belt has a lot to do with it. The original pred looks awesome, as does the middle one for the most part...adrian brody looks like a Badass, they all look as I imagined them too.
Oh and it looks like there's a "New Painless" now haha
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Link?
http://vkontakte.ru/album16534926_98760174 (http://vkontakte.ru/album16534926_98760174)
Mhm, have to sign up to view the page, and i dont speak a single word of russian.
Can you tell us what Oleg was posting about the movie? (Besides those pics)
@Highland
I was expecting that look as well and also black armour. Not that I don't like the look of the Preds in the photo.
May be RR has dropped the genetic Super Pred idea and just gone with Bad Bloods?
Quote from: Mystic Ninja on Jan 16, 2010, 09:52:32 AM
@Highland
I was expecting that look as well and also black armour. Not that I don't like the look of the Preds in the photo.
May be RR has dropped the genetic Super Pred idea and just gone with Bad Bloods?
That would be the better option, seriously. Just make really bad f**king Predators, that are even hunting other Predators.
I dont think that happens though.
Quote from: Johnny Handsome on Jan 16, 2010, 09:50:20 AM
Can you tell us what Oleg was posting about the movie? (Besides those pics)
Besides those pics nothing really. I think he posted them just for frends. He only wrote under pics some brief description. Like "Adrian Brody & I" or under Steele's pic "Super predator bez maski".
where is the black armour? Although they do look more bulky, like Preds on steroids
I'm impressed these pictures. Truth, they aren't perfect. But in comparison to those we could expect - they seems almost perfect. And it seems that - in contrast to the nonsense that some tried to justify - Preds may look like Preds. Not like a drunken genetics mistake. ;) My relief is impossible to describe.
IMHO Bad Blood it's better idea than BSP.
Bad Super Predator? ;)
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Quote from: Johnny Handsome on Jan 16, 2010, 09:50:20 AM
Can you tell us what Oleg was posting about the movie? (Besides those pics)
under Steele's pic "Super predator bez maski".
Super Predator without the mask. ;)
Geneticaly modified super Preds is not nonsense! The only nonsence was from fan boys/girls bad mouthing and writing off something based on a draft.
BSP are something new. The old Preds still exist.
So look at yourself.
What? Look at my self and do what exactly?
Bah! More nonsense.
I'm happy after seeing the photos. I feel the faith that I have given RR since the start is being rewarded! A true Pred fan will have faith in a movie until they see it.
I have mixed feelings. It's hard for me to truly judge since I have not read the script posted, though having read through the forum responses on it, I have a pretty solid idea of the plot and the whole "Super Predator" and "Black Super Predator" business.
It looks to me, based on the pics, that the 3 Preds conform to a typical build when it comes to group dynamic. You have the Average build (The left Predator), the skinny, sleek build (the middle Predator), and the "Big Guy" build (the right Predator).
The Mask designs themselves lend to their body types. The left Pred's mask looks like the original with a jawbone slapped on. The middle Pred's mask is long, angular, and sleek, implying finess, athleticism, and ferocity. I can almost be positive the middle Pred is the leader of the group. He also doesn't have any bones on his mask, which I want to believe is because he doesn't need to show off. He is a badass in his own right, and the other two Predators adorned their masks perhaps to try and look tougher, fiercer, and more experienced than they actually are.
I also appreciate the fact that their chests are exposed, but their back is heavily armored based on the actors sitting in the chairs. This implies to me that, like iin the original films, they do not fear being unprotected there. They consider it more honorable to be vulnerable from the front where there opponent will be facing them in combat, but also don't want to be hit with a cheap shot from behind, hence the added back protection. A bit of a smug hypcorisy there since the Predator as we know is often cloaked and at an advantageous point in which to engage in long-range combat while stealthed. But that's true to the Predator. Though they have a code of honor they abide by, they also give themselves advtantages, and obviously would rather blow themselves up and take their prey with them rather than lose. The most awesome of sore losers award truly belongs to this alien race.
If these are your standard Predators, then I am pleased, and I feel they work as a whole. There's nothing mind-blowingly unique here, but they have just the right amount of simplicity and intrigue to follow in the footsteps of the Predator featured in at least the first film. I feel the Preds at the end of Predator 2 were more unique in design than these. Even if most were wearing very similar armor, their masks and trophy adornments were more diverse. Especially the Predator Elder in P2. I love that design. He could kick all three of these guys asses with his left pinky. These Preds don't look like seasoned warriors to me. Again, this is fine if they are regular Preds, and actually makes sense based on what I know of the story.
However...
...if they're intended to be the "Super Predators," then this greatly worries me. I would expect significantly more advanced technology on them, a much more unusual armor design, and much more "grotesque" features as a whole. I don't mean something gratuitous when it comes to grotesque, but there really isn't anything about them that makes them different from what we've seen before. They're too average to me to be Super Predators, but perhaps "super" is the wrong term here. These could be nothing more than Predators with a different ideal in how things should be done, but even if that's the case, the 3 should have something that sets them apart obviously from a regular Predator that we've come to know as a character. And it should be an obvious thing, something that clearly says "I am not like other Predators." A marking, an iconic, unique weapon we can associate them with,
anything.
These designs just don't have that "thing" that separates them from anthing we've seen before if they are indeed the Super Preds.
I do have faith it will be a good film, but I'm just not seeing anything new here visually. The more I look at the pics, the more I do like the three preds, and the unmasked Pred is indeed excellently done, but it's all so very much the same. Predator 1 and 2 were both different and offered new things to the table. Maybe their
Spoiler
animal friends, hehe
will be something new enough to stir up the mix, but I hope there's some new and unique tech. P2 definitely stepped it up with new and innovative items such as the breathing mask, a more advanced medkit, the slicing net, the throwing disk, and even the shoulder canon was unique to the previous incarnation in the first film, but it didn't overdo it by just making things "bigger" and "Pointier" like a certain AVP film did... P2 was a fantastic sequel, even though for some very odd reason, it doesn't appear to have as much acclaim as its predecessor. It added to the mythos in a subtle, reasonable, and not too over-the-top way.
I hope P3 is great, I really do. It's a film I am excited and hopeful for, and I want it to be great. I know enough not to judge it based on set pics, but at least I could throw down my 2 cents and maybe try to add some reason behind the designs in my own opinion.
Thanks for reading, and I hope there is a lot more to see, and that the Super Preds, if these aren't them, are indeed amazing and unique.
Sweet, finally some pictures. I love them. ;D Thanks!
QuoteA true Pred fan will have faith in a movie until they see it.
No one is bashing the movie, i have seen some bad behind the scenes stills from the original as well and look how it turned out in the movie.
But everyone can express their opinions without hating things for the sake of it. I don't hate anything about the movie so far, i thought the Preds are going to look way cooler, i didn't get that, doesn't mean that they look shit, i like them, but i think they could have also designed them much, much more spectacular
and creative.
On the other hand, I'm so glad that they aren't the bulky, steroid pumped shitheads that they are in the script. The set looks amazing, the Predator pole looks like something from Predator 2 (which is awesome) and the cast and costumes look good too.
The Winston Pred looks f**king
awesome, really really glad about that, but he isn't perfect either.
I'm missing the fishnet look on all four, the paintjobs on the 'super' ones could have been more creative, and they are a bit small.
That doesnt make me less of a fan though. So stop talking BS, please.
I'm not talking BS. The people who talked BS are the ones bashed the film based on limited info, the ones who accused me of not being a fan for liking the BSP idea ect
Any way, let's get back to topic.
Can someone tell me who exactly bad bloods are and is it true they are cannibals?
Is it just me or do these predators look like the same predator desgin from paul andersons AvP?
The long dredds and face features there missing the net mesh but but other than that im diggin the hide armor
Yes, they both where muscular
Quote from: Mystic Ninja on Jan 16, 2010, 10:45:29 AM
I'm not talking BS. The people who talked BS are the ones bashed the film based on limited info, the ones who accused me of not being a fan for liking the BSP idea ect
Any way, let's get back to topic.
Can someone tell me who exactly bad bloods are and is it true they are cannibals?
Bad Bloods: Those who have committed crimes against the Yautja race
Unblooded: The class of trained Yautja who at a particular time have not successfully completed a hunt.
Blooded: The class of Yautja who have successfully completed a hunt, but are not yet experienced enough to be true warriors.
Warriors: These are the Yautja who don't hunt with a clan, but engage solo in combat and war.
Artisans: The forgotten class, these are Yautja who invent things, build things, pilot ships, etc.
Arbitrators: They are the Yautja police force in human terms they are judge, jury, and executioner of those who violate Yautja law.
Ancients: The mightiest of the Yautja are the veterans known as the Ancients
Things are looking cool so far I guess.
They look better than I thought they would. Personally I'm hoping they've dropped the genetic modification angle. I much prefer normal Predators engaging other (bad bloods, whatever you want to call them). Mean's less chance of bad overdone designs. I think, as they stand, the bad Predators seem simpler in design, more primitive.
Yes, very primitive!
I don't mind the genetic Preds, as long as the overall film is great.
I read a lot of people saying that they prefer Bad Bloods to BSP but correct me if I'm wrong...
A bad blood is a Pred that breaks some Pred rules and therefore is a criminal. Therefore is not the BSP with its genetic modification a bad blood?
@Herk Mondo
Thanks dude and cool name
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Just a little note, but this is Brian Steele who played the T-600 in Terminator Salvation.
As for the Predator designs, I think they look a plainer than I was expecting. And I did get a bit of an ADI-vibe from the unmasked one. Well we'll see. The real proof is in the footage, and until we see some we can't really judge.
honestly, the 3 sp's look so bad...the designs look like fan-made.
and what's up with the bodys proportions?? the middle one have legs up to his neck and the one with the tusks looks like a buffed-up redneck.
the "armors" are poor designed and I dont like that mandible skeleton on the sp, it covers his mask, because the guy has no neck.
the regular pred looks good to me.
the script bsp and sp's were bad, but this ones just look cheap.
I just hope it's just because of being pre post-production
Buffed up redknecks! Lol
I still dont get why the hell they didnt contact Ian Whyte about it, he would have been perfect.
Quote from: Johnny Handsome on Jan 16, 2010, 12:19:08 PM
I still dont get why the hell they didnt contact Ian Whyte about it, he would have been perfect.
FOX or RR stubborness?
His the guy in the Pred suit for AvP and AvPR right?
His just a guy in a suit. He did nothing special in a suit that some other actor in a suit could not do without some training.
In fact, I think I can do it. The hardest part is going through make up and having to walk around that costume all day. However, in terms of performance it looks pretty easy if you have the physique and stature.
Cool pics and i'm glad to see they (as far as we can tell) bear little resemblance to the shtty description in the script. But still : the script. that's the fail point that's stopping me getting excited yet. i'm still waiting for a trailer before i make judgement.
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re word of the new ending of Brody alone against a bunch of Predators (the IMDB interview) : if those ARE "normal Preds and not BSPs, i wonder if the ending could mean he gets saved by the sudden appearance of a band of normals who tw@ the BSP, perhaps a vague call-back to the sudden appearance of the rest fo the crew in P2? Depends on what's meant by "making a sacrifice".
@wolfie
I think the ending will be the same as in the leaked script. The Hungarian writer misinterpreted what he saw.
*sigh* ....... :-X
:-\
oh boy .....
You don't like what you see Bugz?
Quote from: Nemmesyz on Jan 16, 2010, 12:12:06 PM
honestly, the 3 sp's look so bad...the designs look like fan-made.
and what's up with the bodys proportions?? the middle one have legs up to his neck and the one with the tusks looks like a buffed-up redneck.
the "armors" are poor designed and I dont like that mandible skeleton on the sp, it covers his mask, because the guy has no neck.
the regular pred looks good to me.
the script bsp and sp's were bad, but this ones just look cheap.
I just hope it's just because of being pre post-production
Would have to agree with this lad. These predators are almost anti "super"
It's almost like RR and antal hung out here after the script release and shit themselves at the reaction.
I was really hoping for a 2010 predator, instead i'd say these guys are 1976 style.
Still pumped about the movie though.
Awesome! Those preds look nothing like how they were described in the script!
The more I look at these predators, the more i think they look MORE primitive than the origanal? There just seems to be nothing to them at all?
Can all the fans out there explain whats better? whats better than Wolf even? I'm not seeing the love here.
QuoteI was really hoping for a 2010 predator, instead i'd say these guys are 1976 style.
That's what I like about it personally. It's not overdesigned, and it has an old fashioned organic feel to it, f**k modernism. Plus, I think they were made to fit the look of the world which seems primitive and hellish. I like the texture of the skin, very old school.
It looks like film might have a primitive and wild theme to it - all good in my books
Quote from: Mystic Ninja on Jan 16, 2010, 11:36:58 AM
A bad blood is a Pred that breaks some Pred rules and therefore is a criminal. Therefore is not the BSP with its genetic modification a bad blood?
That's exactly the point. They're the same except bad bloods don't have stupid over-the-top armor, don't dissect their prey and try and incorporate them into their DNA. ::) They're just Predators who enjoy killing, not the hunt.
I thought my sense of proportions, which is horrible, was off at first. But seeing the comments, I guess I'm not alone in noticing these Predators look a little short.
Overall, the Predators look okay. No drastic changes and a few positives, but I have my issues. I like that they look more like the first movie's Predator, and two of the masks look interesting- one's got a nice bone jaw motif, and the other's got an eye-catching swooped design. But I don't like the third Predator too much, the bulky one with grated mask. Reminds me too much of AVP. Also, I'm sure this was all snapped in between shoots, but they don't look as organic when the costumes are dry. We've yet to see the Black Predator, but for now, they look good. Not great, but good.
The rest of the cast is dressed well, though "Royce" looks a little awkward in his combat vest. The only odd man out is Topher; maybe it's just what he wears casually, but for his character, that looks more Eddie Brock than Edwin. The Predator structures and camp look neat, too, and the locations are all great matches for the story.
they certainly do look primitive. but i guess that's not a bad thing. the preds appear to be missing something though, perhaps their netting? they seem a tad naked don't you think?? can't wait to see them on the big screen!
Quote from: Pinkman on Jan 16, 2010, 12:51:53 PM
QuoteI was really hoping for a 2010 predator, instead i'd say these guys are 1976 style.
That's what I like about it personally. It's not overdesigned, and it has an old fashioned organic feel to it, f**k modernism. Plus, I think they were made to fit the look of the world which seems primitive and hellish. I like the texture of the skin, very old school.
From what i gather though (I have not read the script) , these "different" predators are supposed to be some kind of upgraded version of the "classic" predator.
With all due respect to the makers, I think "anytime" and "pussyface" could back hand these guy's like Danny boy and Poncho.
Man, what a relief. This almost changes everything. Why are people complaining? Costumes etc go through several tiers of work. And this is a grainy amatuer photo set. This raises the question - just what the f**k was that script we're used to? An early draft? A feint?
Other than the masks the predators look like the classic one.
I think they scraped the sbp from the skript
Quote from: jordan on Jan 16, 2010, 01:37:55 PM
Man, what a relief. This almost changes everything. Why are people complaining? Costumes etc go through several tiers of work. And this is a grainy amatuer photo set. This raises the question - just what the f**k was that script we're used to? An early draft? A feint?
it'll take more than tiers of work to make these guys even close to the original, never mind "super"
I'm giving the photo's the benefit of the doubt for now.
Quote from: Highland on Jan 16, 2010, 01:46:40 PM
Quote from: jordan on Jan 16, 2010, 01:37:55 PM
Man, what a relief. This almost changes everything. Why are people complaining? Costumes etc go through several tiers of work. And this is a grainy amatuer photo set. This raises the question - just what the f**k was that script we're used to? An early draft? A feint?
it'll take more than tiers of work to make these guys even close to the original, never mind "super"
I'm giving the photo's the benefit of the doubt for now.
I'm relieved that they didn't attempt to make them look 'super'. That was a childish idea from the get-go and was my biggest fear.
Glad to see a faithful Winston Predator, but the supposedly Super Preds don't really wow me. Like some said, they look bland.
Quote from: jordan on Jan 16, 2010, 01:48:14 PM
Quote from: Highland on Jan 16, 2010, 01:46:40 PM
Quote from: jordan on Jan 16, 2010, 01:37:55 PM
Man, what a relief. This almost changes everything. Why are people complaining? Costumes etc go through several tiers of work. And this is a grainy amatuer photo set. This raises the question - just what the f**k was that script we're used to? An early draft? A feint?
it'll take more than tiers of work to make these guys even close to the original, never mind "super"
I'm giving the photo's the benefit of the doubt for now.
I'm relieved that they didn't attempt to make them look 'super'. That was a childish idea from the get-go and was my biggest fear.
Couldnt agree more,im very relieved by what ive seen,im not seeing many negatives so far.......now bring on the trailer!
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Well first off having just seen the pictures... HOLY f**kING SHIT.... They look awesome... Not what I had imagined at all... The hunting camp looks so eerie... And obviously the big question which I'm sure has been asked many times in this thread....
What's with the 3 Preds? There's never a point in the script where you see 3 Regular Preds bar the alternate ending which they wont shoot... So have they change the Super Preds design? Oh I hope so...
I know some people will agree with me and some will not but those masks are ugly and where's their netting? I read on a site one time maybe Wiki that the netting is a heater for them and is part of the cloaking system. I wonder what their reason is to not have the netting on the Predators. Were these pics taken on a day they were trying on their suits for the first time to get the feel of it before everything was on the suits?
Nothing about the netting has ever been established in the movies so it doesn't matter... I do wish they had it though
Also the guy in the Pred suit on his own without the mask... Look at his stomach... Is that a scar from the two blades of a predators gauntlet?
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Looks like he has a dead fish strapped to his crotch! :o
I sure hope this is good and not another AVP: Requeum TV movie with big effects ...
Bri :P
AVPGalaxy was mentioned on Aintitcool. Pretty good stuff. Not sure where i stand with these Super Predators.
O boy..
I was looking forward to the day the 1st pics from some predators arrived.
Cant say im impressed.
Those shots with those 3 predators ( superpredators )...
Just look at their proportions?!?!?!
They look like buffed with steroids and with their heads way too big.
Specially that pred at the right who doesnt even have a neck, short legs and a head , like i said, way too big!
At the other side, that pred u see in the back ground of that actor, that pred looks just great, like the Predator from Predator 1.
I hope those 3 preds will look way differend in the actual movie then we see in these pictures.
They really look like some 6 foot tall guys wanna wear costumes with original sized pred masks.
Maybe the Super Predators look so "bland" here because they intend to do something incredible to them in post. Sort of like when Lex and Sebastian wore those real bright jackets on the set of AVP so that PWSA could later wash out the colors in order to get a certain look.
Also, is it possible they can make these Predators look taller on screen? Probably if they're only digital right?
Predator helmets look way to big for me xD. Its hilarius . haha
Who's behind the special effects on this romp? ADI or Winston Studio's ?
Bri :o
KNB is it?
i cant belive people still are bitching when we finally have gotten some set pics even insanely kick ass cool set pics where the preds looks freaking bad ass but i guess people just want to bitch for the sake of it
Quote from: dallevalle on Jan 16, 2010, 03:17:23 PM
i cant belive people still are bitching when we finally have gotten some set pics even insanely kick ass cool set pics where the preds looks freaking bad ass but i guess people just want to bitch for the sake of it
Welcome to the world of the fan boy... Frankly... I don't care what anyone else thinks... I like what I'm seeins so I'll enjoy the movie...
Nice going Oleg. Glad it wasn't one of us crew that leaked the first pics on the net. We were told constantly not to take photos on the set and had to sign a confidentiality agreement not to disclose what we shot on the set. Bonehead.
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Quote from: dallevalle on Jan 16, 2010, 03:17:23 PM
i cant belive people still are bitching when we finally have gotten some set pics even insanely kick ass cool set pics where the preds looks freaking bad ass but i guess people just want to bitch for the sake of it
Welcome to the world of the fan boy... Frankly... I don't care what anyone else thinks... I like what I'm seeins so I'll enjoy the movie...
that is just so sad that people can bitch so much when right infront of them you see these insane great predators first people are scared and bitches about how they dont want the preds to look like mutant freaks then finally when we get them wow they look actully pretty normal THEN !! people bitches over that for gods sake ..... well at least we are 2 there im going to enjoy this movie too for sure !!!! ^^ i always had fait in this movie.
Quote from: tikiman on Jan 16, 2010, 03:22:57 PM
Nice going Oleg. Glad it wasn't one of us crew that leaked the first pics on the net. We were told constantly not to take photos on the set and had to sign a confidentiality agreement not to disclose what we shot on the set. Bonehead.
So Oleg Taktarov is in some shit now huh?
Breaking the contract rules... :D
How about people have valid reasons not to be wowed out of their socks? The Winston Predator looks great, but the 3 other Preds kinda have weird proportions with heads that look way too massive. Who knows how they'll look in post-production, with the right lighting and filmed from the right angle? But right now, they look weird.
You just can't please everyone... I love what I see though. These preds remind me of wild men in the jungle living off the land. Primitive is the perfect word to describe them... I love it.... And the normal pred, well he just looks fantastic.
Quote from: Doomofman on Jan 16, 2010, 02:46:55 PM
Nothing about the netting has ever been established in the movies so it doesn't matter... I do wish they had it though
Also the guy in the Pred suit on his own without the mask... Look at his stomach... Is that a scar from the two blades of a predators gauntlet?
I know it was never established but it does make sense.
Quote from: Hybrid PM on Jan 16, 2010, 03:31:19 PM
You just can't please everyone... I love what I see though. These preds remind me of wild men in the jungle living off the land. Primitive is the perfect word to describe them... I love it.... And the normal pred, well he just looks fantastic.
your right the whole premitive way fits so much at least people got them kinda primitive instead of super monster mutant freaks so people should be happy
Quote from: Hybrid PM on Jan 16, 2010, 03:31:19 PM
You just can't please everyone... I love what I see though. These preds remind me of wild men in the jungle living off the land. Primitive is the perfect word to describe them... I love it.... And the normal pred, well he just looks fantastic.
Couldn't agree more... I mean people just expect way too much...
On another note... The 3 Preds standing together... Can you see their eyes through the masks? :o
Quote from: Dusk on Jan 16, 2010, 03:30:01 PM
How about people have valid reasons not to be wowed out of their socks? The Winston Predator looks great, but the 3 other Preds kinda have weird proportions with heads that look way too massive. Who knows how they'll look in post-production, with the right lighting and filmed from the right angle? But right now, they look weird.
totally agree with Dusk
I think they look pretty good, but is anybody still bothered by the notion of there being "super predators?" I still can't wrap my head around that. Predators are predators.
The Predator in the middle, his mask reminds me of one of those bad guys in the Stargate movie.
holy cow im getting excited now :D this is going to be so great !!!! i want a trailer so bad now !!! ^^
Great to finally see some pictures of the preds. I was expecting alot worse to tell you the truth. The actors playing them are very short and I agree the netting would have made them look so much better but other then that I'm ok with them.
The the face looks great and at least its avp:r dreds and not from avp although who wouldn't want to see Stan Winstons as everything he touches is perfect.
Can anyone else notice that it looks like the predator actually has a full lower jaw now with full set of teeth?
Quote from: Doomofman on Jan 16, 2010, 03:37:42 PM
Quote from: Hybrid PM on Jan 16, 2010, 03:31:19 PM
You just can't please everyone... I love what I see though. These preds remind me of wild men in the jungle living off the land. Primitive is the perfect word to describe them... I love it.... And the normal pred, well he just looks fantastic.
Couldn't agree more... I mean people just expect way too much...
On another note... The 3 Preds standing together... Can you see their eyes through the masks? :o
There seems to be a hint of red in the eyes!
yyyes i thought i notice some red too so it wasent just me hehe
Not even red... But just.. something that looks like they could be eyes rather than the mesh we're used to getting...
I think for anyone who is worried and concerned about the new Predator designs, you have to remember that these are not well-lit photographs. They were taken with your standard camera. Gyula Pados is a talented cinematographer and under his direction with his camera and electric teams, I'm very certain that the new Predators will look absolutely fantastic on film.
And in terms of the height of the Predators, these are not short men who stand under 6 feet tall. No, I seriously doubt any of the men playing the Predators are over 7 feet tall like Kevin Hall but so what! These guys are around 6'5 – 6'11 and that's perfectly fine because that's where the trick of the film camera comes into play. The filmmakers can make these Predators look like they are well over 7 feet tall with the right camera angles.
I don't so any triple plasma cannon here either. Looks like the script was modified.
Massive heads!
as for the lack of netting etc. I'd imagine that the costumes go through various stages of dressing before there ready for screen. In alot of those pictures the predators dont even look like they have wrist blades. So im sure all that stuff gets added in the end.
well if you look at the picture of the 3 preds i think the redish comes from the pred all the way to the left thats where i spotted it but we have to remember its a pic taken from set there could be parts they have taken off them and so on. ( and sorry my net is crap right now so it takes sometime to type back)
Quote from: tikiman on Jan 16, 2010, 03:22:57 PM
Nice going Oleg. Glad it wasn't one of us crew that leaked the first pics on the net. We were told constantly not to take photos on the set and had to sign a confidentiality agreement not to disclose what we shot on the set. Bonehead.
Who are you?
Quote from: Emperor_Toe on Jan 16, 2010, 03:52:47 PM
Massive heads!
as for the lack of netting etc. I'd imagine that the costumes go through various stages of dressing before there ready for screen. In alot of those pictures the predators dont even look like they have wrist blades. So im sure all that stuff gets added in the end.
No no.. Not massive heads... Massive masks... You want another massive mask? Look at Pussy Face... His mask was huge compared to his body...
As for the height... Who says all Predators are over 7 foot?
Also on the note of bits being added to the costumes, look at the pic of Steele standing on his own... He has a plasma caster and shoulder stuff which he doesn't in the pic with 3 of them(assuming he's there)
Quote from: Royce on Jan 16, 2010, 03:50:43 PM
I think for anyone who is worried and concerned about the new Predator designs, you have to remember that these are not well-lit photographs.
Exactly. These were probably taken on a mobile camera. At who knows which stage of design/dressing.
I sure hope so!!!!!!!!!!!
Wasn't "Stans" (Walton Goggins' character) supposed to have a shaved head? If so, I'm glad they decided to change that.
i think at what some here are recalling to be "red eyes" , are just the lenses of their masks.
All u can see is something shiny, and some are thinking there to be red eyes they are seeing, quite funny i must say.
I am 6 foot 4 myself.
If i would place my wolf mask in front of my face, and i imagine me using 1 of those "buffed fat suits" like some of those actors are wearing, it looks quite weird.
Cause to look this kinda "normal", u really shoud be like Kevin Peter Hall his height, to get rid of the view that the head looks way to big for its body.
Guess with camera's u can do a lot to make it looks differend, so the head doesnt look THAT big compared to its body, LETS HOPE!
But i still believe that u cant totally change that, instead of using, like i said before, actors with heights like Kevin Peter hall or Ian white.
Not actors that are 6 foot 5 +.
Or use helmets / head that are smaller to make it look better on the body? might be a better option
to be honest i dident notice the preds been to small or anything i guess i just dont care if they are monster tall or shorter as some people are saying not all preds should be excactly the same just like us people ( we arent all tall hehe)
Funny thing is.
By having read lots of things about predators on sites in the internet in the past years
I believe it all says they are atleast 7 foot tall or bigger.
Offcourse u can ask urself, "who the hell have said that ?"
Cause its offcourse just a movie about fictional creatures.
But u get an image about predators being 7 foot or taller, by reading all this things on sites and forums etc etc etc.
So... people saying predators can be smaller also... that sounds kinda weird.
Cause we were always told, or have read they are TALLLL, and not 6 foot 5.
"Yeah yeah yeah... camera's will change that, and make them look taller then the actors are"
got it.. ::)
Proportions and all that... mmm... maybe stretch the screen a litle in height :P
Quote from: Yautja161 on Jan 16, 2010, 04:11:04 PM
Funny thing is.
By having read lots of things about predators on sites in the internet in the past years
I believe it all says they are atleast 7 foot tall or bigger.
Offcourse u can ask urself, "who the hell have said that ?"
Cause its offcourse just a movie about fictional creatures.
But u get an image about predators being 7 foot or taller, by reading all this things on sites and forums etc etc etc.
So... people saying predators can be smaller also... that sounds kinda weird.
Cause we were always told, or have read they are TALLLL, and not 6 foot 5.
"Yeah yeah yeah... camera's will change that, and make them look taller then the actors are"
got it.. ::)
well now they are just smaller lets just live with that its not a big issue really maby ian wanted to much money to play a predator again xD XD but seriously !! its not that big of a deal
Stop talking nonsense... Who cares if someone on the internet said it? First off neither of the 2 previous movies give any mention of height or really much about the culture/race. Secondly... They're a race of creatures, like humans, are all humans the same size or above a certain height? Eh no... People on here really need to learn to except change... but if some of you want to let the height of the predators take away from the experience of the movie... f**ked if I care...
who knows why ian isnt in this movie..
We will see how this movie turns out, and how those so called Superpredators will look on screen
I'm not too worried about this anymore. This looks great whether those are supers or regular Predators. Its awesome because it all makes sense. They're not on earth hunting so they're a little less armored. They just have the basics. It could balance everything else. This could be great!
well from the set pics i think they look amazing and if they look amazing to me just by set pics then PHEWWWW !!!!! in the movie DAMN !!!! its gonna be good !! ^^
I wonder when the trailer will come out?
on the predator 2 dvd there's a section on the creation of the predators that states because they were doing multiple creatures, it was easier to have the predators bear-chested so they could augment them with armour. As opposed to P1 where everything was attached to the suit.
I'm sorry, I am anticipating this movie just as much as you are, but i don't thnk i dig the new predator design, i mean they're fat and you can tell that it isn't muscle fat. >:(As teribble as the movie was i think that i like the AVPR Predator the best.
I will surely see the movie the day it comes out and get some serious gore! :)
Fat? WTF... I don't think I've seen anyone else say that...
Set looks great! I like the 3 predator masks a lot! Unique and should look great in the movie. I think people need to calm down. This isnt even close to what the movie is gonna look like. I also believe that the predators are not fully suited up. If they are then I am not too impressed with their design. Look a little funny. But maybe they proportioned the suits so that when they are fully suited they would look a certain way. Well maybe not lol I wish they had bodies like Wolf
Also whoever said that havin Ian doesnt matter cuz anyone can get in a suit with some practice needs to go think about life some more. Ian is the best thing about AVP-R. The Wolf is IMO the best lookin predator. Ian does a fantastic job makin the Wolf so bad ass and believable.
Adrien Brody will still not carry this movie.
And the Plasma Caster deflecting all the minigun bullets will probably make me say " What the f**k " in the theater. Because it's THAT retarded.
Quote from: SiL on Jan 16, 2010, 09:11:28 AM
I'm with Johnny.
I'm gonna get labeled a hater or whatever for this, but those Super Preds look ... eh. They don't look imposing or menacing, and their armour looks bland as all get out. It's like they slapped some vacuformed plastic over the suits and called it a day :-\
I'm with you. The costumes look really lackluster. Maybe it's just the lighting, but they really look bad.
Wow! Also made my day :) Happy to see that Predators is not a rumor only :)
If you're referring to the movie at large, it hasn't been a rumour for at least 6 months now.
brody looks so damn bad ass too in the pic :D man is this movie gonna rock !!
Quote from: DoomRulz on Jan 16, 2010, 04:44:28 PM
If you're referring to the movie at large, it hasn't been a rumour for at least 6 months now.
Ok I know waht you mean, but also with the Alien prequel, I don;t believe until I don;t see at last one screen from set or movie.Or teaser ;)
They look like the ninja turtles =S
Quote from: AJMARTINecu on Jan 16, 2010, 05:14:19 PM
They look like the ninja turtles =S
:o
We hev to see thenm in action
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Quote from: AJMARTINecu on Jan 16, 2010, 05:14:19 PM
They look like the ninja turtles =S
Haha, you're right. How sad is that.
The creatures always looked silly in behind the scenes photos like this. Except for in Predator I'm proud to admit.
In the script they resembled Super shredders. Here they're at least recognisable as Predators. I'm much happier now and I'm willing to give this movie more of a chance. I wonder if Oleg will take any heat for this big reveal.
Are these the super black Predators?
Quote from: The Demon on Jan 16, 2010, 05:47:08 PM
Are these the super black Predators?
Well we see a trio and a single Predator. If adhering to that script, its reasonable to say they are. But its also reasonable to say there'll be no such thing as a BSP.
Quote from: SiL on Jan 16, 2010, 09:11:28 AM
I'm with Johnny.
I'm gonna get labeled a hater or whatever for this, but those Super Preds look ... eh. They don't look imposing or menacing, and their armour looks bland as all get out. It's like they slapped some vacuformed plastic over the suits and called it a day :-\
Yeah, I thought their design would have more oomph. I personally thought they would be very colorful and over-the-top.
OK, so I gotta be honest...my first reaction to the BSP's was underwhelming.
**Now I know these are just amateur pics, and I'm eagerly awaiting to see some professional finished photos, but these designs are still the official designs so I think my opinions are pretty valid**
There is absolutely many things missing and 'off' at first glance. First off is this blandness of the designs. Nothing about the Preds stands out. They are all just so grey...it's hard to even see them. There needs to be a contrast in colors on the Preds so we can make out each part of their bodies/designs. The new Winston Pred design is gorgeous and shows exactly what I mean. We can actually see him and his different parts of his body. He STANDS out. So props to KNB on that one.
Secondly is the netting. The netting defines the Predator and 'completes' his whole look. It kinda connects everything into one bad-ass, killer package. Basically the staples of the Predator seem missing in these new Predators. The trophy necklaces are gone, The simple but awesome masks are gone, the various camouflaged color schemes are gone, differences in armor, etc. They are so naked it's almost boring. I like how they are primitive but this is TOO primitive, IMO. Predators are a beautiful blend of technology and primitiveness. It's missing here.
As already mentioned, the proportions seem off too. That was one of the first things I noticed. The Preds just seem dead to me.
I will continue to keep my hopes up though since these pictures were never meant to be released and are clearly taken before post-production. They are an improvement in the right direction, but to be honest I think Wolf (with his mask) looks 10x better than these guys.
Did they ditch the BSP idea? (HOPEFULLY)
I can't believe people want those adolescant 'mutants' over these. I mean the BSP's in the script sounded outrageous. Totally stupid. These Predators look like a blueprint thats more acceptable.
Quote from: The Demon on Jan 16, 2010, 05:54:32 PM
Did they ditch the BSP idea? (HOPEFULLY)
We don't know. We can only speculate. The looks of things would say these are outcasts of some form, maybe bad bloods. And, IMO, thats MUCH more acceptable than an episode of the power rangers.
Don't double post.
Quote from: JaredK21 on Jan 16, 2010, 05:53:33 PM
OK, so I gotta be honest...my first reaction to the BSP's was underwhelming.
**Now I know these are just amateur pics, and I'm eagerly awaiting to see some professional finished photos, but these designs are still the official designs so I think my opinions are pretty valid**
There is absolutely many things missing and 'off' at first glance. First off is this blandness of the designs. Nothing about the Preds stands out. They are all just so grey...it's hard to even see them. There needs to be a contrast in colors on the Preds so we can make out each part of their bodies/designs. The new Winston Pred design is gorgeous and shows exactly what I mean. We can actually see him and his different parts of his body. He STANDS out. So props to KNB on that one.
Secondly is the netting. The netting defines the Predator and 'completes' his whole look. It kinda connects everything into one bad-ass, killer package. Basically the staples of the Predator seem missing in these new Predators. The trophy necklaces are gone, The simple but awesome masks are gone, the various camouflaged color schemes are gone, differences in armor, etc. They are so naked it's almost boring. I like how they are primitive but this is TOO primitive, IMO. Predators are a beautiful blend of technology and primitiveness. It's missing here.
As already mentioned, the proportions seem off too. That was one of the first things I noticed. The Preds just seem dead to me.
I will continue to keep my hopes up though since these pictures were never meant to be released and are clearly taken before post-production. They are an improvement in the right direction, but to be honest I think Wolf (with his mask) looks 10x better than these guys.
The difference is, these Predators are on their home planet. They're not suited for a hunting trip. I think that was the point.
Quote from: Johnny Handsome on Jan 16, 2010, 12:19:08 PM
I still dont get why the hell they didnt contact Ian Whyte about it, he would have been perfect.
Well he is 6'7'', and even taller with that gear on.
Plus Robrod and Troublemaker probably don't want to part with a crew in which they already have.
I'm not seeing any "fishnet" on these. ???
Does that mean no invisibility?
Quote from: Sabres21768 on Jan 16, 2010, 06:00:47 PM
I'm not seeing any "fishnet" on these. ???
Does that mean no invisibility?
No because it's not in any way established in the movies that the net has anything to do with invisibility.. and don't give me any 'it's in the comics' crap... These are movies not comics... Comic rules don't apply/aren't relative
Quote from: Pvt. Hicks on Jan 16, 2010, 06:00:35 PM
Quote from: Johnny Handsome on Jan 16, 2010, 12:19:08 PM
I still dont get why the hell they didnt contact Ian Whyte about it, he would have been perfect.
Well he is 6'7'', and even taller with that gear on.
Plus Robrod and Troublemaker probably don't want to part with a crew in which they already have.
Ian Whyte is 7'1.
Quote from: The Demon on Jan 16, 2010, 05:57:40 PM
Quote from: JaredK21 on Jan 16, 2010, 05:53:33 PM
OK, so I gotta be honest...my first reaction to the BSP's was underwhelming.
**Now I know these are just amateur pics, and I'm eagerly awaiting to see some professional finished photos, but these designs are still the official designs so I think my opinions are pretty valid**
There is absolutely many things missing and 'off' at first glance. First off is this blandness of the designs. Nothing about the Preds stands out. They are all just so grey...it's hard to even see them. There needs to be a contrast in colors on the Preds so we can make out each part of their bodies/designs. The new Winston Pred design is gorgeous and shows exactly what I mean. We can actually see him and his different parts of his body. He STANDS out. So props to KNB on that one.
Secondly is the netting. The netting defines the Predator and 'completes' his whole look. It kinda connects everything into one bad-ass, killer package. Basically the staples of the Predator seem missing in these new Predators. The trophy necklaces are gone, The simple but awesome masks are gone, the various camouflaged color schemes are gone, differences in armor, etc. They are so naked it's almost boring. I like how they are primitive but this is TOO primitive, IMO. Predators are a beautiful blend of technology and primitiveness. It's missing here.
As already mentioned, the proportions seem off too. That was one of the first things I noticed. The Preds just seem dead to me.
I will continue to keep my hopes up though since these pictures were never meant to be released and are clearly taken before post-production. They are an improvement in the right direction, but to be honest I think Wolf (with his mask) looks 10x better than these guys.
The difference is, these Predators are on their home planet. They're not suited for a hunting trip. I think that was the point.
It's never mentioned that this planet is their home planet. It could be another planet they use for hunting trips. But that's not the point...the point is they're missing an element that makes Predators, Predators.
Its stated in the plot that its on their home planet.
And what element is that?
Quote from: JaredK21 on Jan 16, 2010, 06:06:06 PM
Quote from: The Demon on Jan 16, 2010, 05:57:40 PM
Quote from: JaredK21 on Jan 16, 2010, 05:53:33 PM
OK, so I gotta be honest...my first reaction to the BSP's was underwhelming.
**Now I know these are just amateur pics, and I'm eagerly awaiting to see some professional finished photos, but these designs are still the official designs so I think my opinions are pretty valid**
There is absolutely many things missing and 'off' at first glance. First off is this blandness of the designs. Nothing about the Preds stands out. They are all just so grey...it's hard to even see them. There needs to be a contrast in colors on the Preds so we can make out each part of their bodies/designs. The new Winston Pred design is gorgeous and shows exactly what I mean. We can actually see him and his different parts of his body. He STANDS out. So props to KNB on that one.
Secondly is the netting. The netting defines the Predator and 'completes' his whole look. It kinda connects everything into one bad-ass, killer package. Basically the staples of the Predator seem missing in these new Predators. The trophy necklaces are gone, The simple but awesome masks are gone, the various camouflaged color schemes are gone, differences in armor, etc. They are so naked it's almost boring. I like how they are primitive but this is TOO primitive, IMO. Predators are a beautiful blend of technology and primitiveness. It's missing here.
As already mentioned, the proportions seem off too. That was one of the first things I noticed. The Preds just seem dead to me.
I will continue to keep my hopes up though since these pictures were never meant to be released and are clearly taken before post-production. They are an improvement in the right direction, but to be honest I think Wolf (with his mask) looks 10x better than these guys.
The difference is, these Predators are on their home planet. They're not suited for a hunting trip. I think that was the point.
It's never mentioned that this planet is their home planet. It could be another planet they use for hunting trips. But that's not the point...the point is they're missing an element that makes Predators, Predators.
Well ther not suppose to be regular Predators and ya its not ther home planet but it is some were ther dont need all ther tools to hunt like they would on earth.
(https://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg94.imageshack.us%2Fimg94%2F259%2Fx05bcc876.jpg&hash=4ffb3fd0ad8323ffda197c5ff2f49fbc82188dc1)
In this pic, it looks like he's wearing some lift shoes to give him some extra height.
Exactly my point. The movie takes place on their home planet. Its not like their going to earth for a few days to hunt where they would need all that equipment. So what we're getting with these guys are more primitive Predators.
Yeah. People have to stop assuming that what's in the grainy photos is how it is going to look like in the final film, or that they are done prepping the suit.
Quote from: The Demon on Jan 16, 2010, 06:07:36 PM
Its stated in the plot that its on their home planet.
And what element is that?
The fish netting.
Quote from: JaredK21 on Jan 16, 2010, 06:11:27 PM
Quote from: The Demon on Jan 16, 2010, 06:07:36 PM
Its stated in the plot that its on their home planet.
And what element is that?
The fish netting.
Look the net has never been confirmed do serve a purpose and theses are not reg preds and they dont need or use all the stuff a reg pred would use or have.
Well like the great pvt hicks says with his priceless advice, the suit might not be done prepping.
I don't find the netting that important. Like before, this isn't a hunting trip. They are not going to be identical to those Predators we saw before.
STOP REFERENCING THE f**kING COMICS..
They have NOTHING to do with this movie or any elements in it... The only things this movie has to follow is P1 and P2...
Quote from: chrisr232007 on Jan 16, 2010, 06:14:03 PM
Quote from: JaredK21 on Jan 16, 2010, 06:11:27 PM
Quote from: The Demon on Jan 16, 2010, 06:07:36 PM
Its stated in the plot that its on their home planet.
And what element is that?
The fish netting.
Look the net has never been confirmed do serve a purpose and theses are not reg preds and they dont need or use all the stuff a reg pred would use or have.
I'm not debating the
use of the fish net. I'm debating the
look of it on the Predator. EVERY Predator we've ever seen has adorned the fish netting. It makes them, them. And it makes them look so much better IMO.
I just think these new Preds need it.
P.S. When I bought and assembled my Hot Toys Predator I forgot to add the netting but I didn't realize it. Something about the figure seemed off. Then I noticed the netting was missing and when I put it on the figure looked complete and so much better.
who gives a crap about fishnets they are home not needing all the stuff they usally take with them to earth as others have pointed out.
so come on stop bitching be happy that we dident get mutant freaks be happy that the preds actully looks so great
I'm pretty sure that this movie is not on the homeworld. But rather a game reserve or a safari planet.
So I've read in the script anyway.
-Rakai'Thwei
Awesome Predators are awesome!!!!
Also LOL at people judging the movie preds by this set pics :D they could add an entire world via post production man,the way they look in this pics means nothing really,they could very well be basis for other stuff not saying it is but thats the idea.
Im sure the movie will be nothing like we are expecting and will blow us away.
Quote from: RakaiThwei on Jan 16, 2010, 06:20:45 PM
I'm pretty sure that this movie is not on the homeworld. But rather a game reserve or a safari planet.
So I've read in the script anyway.
-Rakai'Thwei
hmmm well closer to home than earth well thats what i think but still the whole fishnet thing is just people bitching for the sake of bitching becuse its so low that its just stupid to be mad over such a thing.
Quote from: RakaiThwei on Jan 16, 2010, 06:20:45 PM
So I've read in the script anyway.
-Rakai'Thwei
Take it with a grain of salt because the script has been changed since it was leaked.
Quote from: RakaiThwei on Jan 16, 2010, 06:20:45 PM
I'm pretty sure that this movie is not on the homeworld. But rather a game reserve or a safari planet.
So I've read in the script anyway.
-Rakai'Thwei
Yeah I'm pretty sure there's no mention of it being the preds home planet at all.. I don't think it's mentioned what the planet is at all..
Quote from: Doomofman on Jan 16, 2010, 06:22:59 PM
Quote from: RakaiThwei on Jan 16, 2010, 06:20:45 PM
I'm pretty sure that this movie is not on the homeworld. But rather a game reserve or a safari planet.
So I've read in the script anyway.
-Rakai'Thwei
Yeah I'm pretty sure there's no mention of it being the preds home planet at all.. I don't think it's mentioned what the planet is at all..
You're right.
We have no idea when these where taken. It could easily be early in production or they are not fully dressed.
Many possible explanations! Stop complaining.
well whatever planet it is its more to there advanges more the preds way we see how well they do in predator 1 the whole jungle invioment but im still saying fishnets dosent really matter ( fishnets are suposse to be on hookers) ^^
Loving the designs. And like most of us said, wat for pictures before you judge it, and look what happened.
First of all , the 3 preds looks stupid as some of you already stated. Ugly masks and the propotions suck.
Why is that so freakin hard to give us back the design from the Predator 1 or 2 ? That shouldent be hard to do right ?
Some of you may bitch about how bad AVP R was , But , Wolf looked 10 times better than all 3 predators from ( Predators)
At least people have something new to bitch about...
I almost wish they HAD have used the SP design in the script just to punish you people seeing as nothing is good enough for you...
Quote from: Lionhart on Jan 16, 2010, 06:38:46 PM
First of all , the 3 preds looks stupid as some of you already stated. Ugly masks and the propotions suck.
I don't care about the SPs, I only care about the normal Predator-- who in my opinion, just looks grand.
-Rakai'Thwei
Quote from: RakaiThwei on Jan 16, 2010, 06:41:11 PM
Quote from: Lionhart on Jan 16, 2010, 06:38:46 PM
First of all , the 3 preds looks stupid as some of you already stated. Ugly masks and the propotions suck.
I don't care about the SPs, I only care about the normal Predator-- who in my opinion, just looks grand.
-Rakai'Thwei
I'm with that!
The only thing I have to complain about is that Ian Whyte is not in this movie. I'm sure he would've given a great performance as the normal Predator.
-Rakai'Thwei
Im don't care if I am an Alien fan or not, THOSE LOOK SO AWESOME!!!!!!!! I can't wait for this movie!
Not digging the look of the Preds in that group shot. Definitely not going to pass judgement though on some blurry unofficial set photos as their could be any number of reasons for the way they look.
Alright guys, this one is the Back super Predator, and therefore the leader of the hunting party:
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The one on the left with the creepy jaw bone mask.
From Bloody Disgusting:
Update: One of the images reveal that fan fav Brian Steele (The Relic, Resident Evil: Extinction, The Cave, Hellboy, Underworld, Blade: Trinity, Men in Black II and more) has also been cast! Bloody Disgusting learned he will portray the "Black Super Predator".
That one will also fight the original Predator then.
So he's black because he was burned?
LMAO, My wife is no Predator fan b/c the movies scare her and she hates it when I do the Predator clicking sound. So I showed her the group pic and she said they were ugly :D
Quote from: RakaiThwei on Jan 16, 2010, 06:54:41 PM
The only thing I have to complain about is that Ian Whyte is not in this movie. I'm sure he would've given a great performance as the normal Predator.
-Rakai'Thwei
I don't understand why he isn't in the Movie. Did he have a busy schedule? Was he approached at all?
BSP looks like a mix with a pig because of those horns or what ever you wanna call it .
The pics are amazing. I can't see this turning out bad thank god.
something i want to make clear about the "fishnet".
Why would that net be for use of cloaking?
They do not wear that net all over that body, so that would mean parts without the net dont cloak.
Check pred 1 for example.
What i can remember about the net, its use is just for putting things on it.
Like whatever a pred likes to hang on its body, he can hang it in its net.
Cloaking has no way to do with that net.
Its just a freakin net.
Second thing is...
We all remember when Alien vs Predator the movie arrived, and we saw those pics about scar / celtic / chopper being kinda bulky.
Everybody knows the predators from the movies Pred 1 and Pred 2.
We all know they have to be agile and lean and fast, cause thats what u need to be when u need to use ur own body for hunting other aliens on other worlds.
Then the predators from AVP were bulky, what makes their how appearance looking slowed down.
What kinda makes ur how vision about predators look off.
So people started bitchiing ( me included ) about their appearance.
Offcourse there was much more to bitch about the movie, but talking now only about the appearance of the preds.
Then AVP2, with Wolf.
He looked agile and lean and fast again, just like Pred 1 and Pred 2.
Only his face was kinda f**ked up, but his mask was way cool ! thank god.
And now we are getting this movie Predators.
I just saw a message from someone saying "the photo's always look weird during they are filming the movie, just like they did in the Predator 1 and 2 movie".
Uhm.... their costumes looked great in those photos made during filming, really GREAT.
People dont want to see fat/bulky predators who have weird proportions cause the actors are smaller then Kevin Peter Hall was, or Ian white.
We want fast agile lean predators.
Lets hope that so called "stan winston" Predator looks the way a predator is supposed to be.
His stills look promising, seeing his head and upperbody.
But those 3 preds standing next to eachother.. ???
Quote from: Lionhart on Jan 16, 2010, 07:25:51 PM
BSP looks like a mix with a pig because of those horns or what ever you wanna call it .
I thought the BSP was the one on the left of the picture o.O
Quote from: Dusk on Jan 16, 2010, 07:24:55 PM
I don't understand why he isn't in the Movie. Did he have a busy schedule? Was he approached at all?
He would have done it if he was asked but Rodriguez wants to completely separate this movie from AvP. Hence no ADI.
Quote from: Doomofman on Jan 16, 2010, 07:15:13 PM
So he's black because he was burned?
No, because his body has a black color scheme to it. No indications of burnings.
Quote from: Johnny Handsome on Jan 16, 2010, 07:27:56 PM
Quote from: Doomofman on Jan 16, 2010, 07:15:13 PM
So he's black because he was burned?
No, because his body has a black color scheme to it. No indications of burnings.
Stomach looks burnt to me...
Does anyone else think that Royce/Brody looks a bit like a soldier or marine more-so than a Bounty Hunter?
The bright light and lack of slime is sure not doing those costumes any favors.
Quote from: Doomofman on Jan 16, 2010, 07:29:03 PM
Quote from: Johnny Handsome on Jan 16, 2010, 07:27:56 PM
Quote from: Doomofman on Jan 16, 2010, 07:15:13 PM
So he's black because he was burned?
No, because his body has a black color scheme to it. No indications of burnings.
Stomach looks burnt to me...
That's just the reptilian style skin with a black color scheme.
Quote from: Darkness on Jan 16, 2010, 07:27:42 PM
Quote from: Dusk on Jan 16, 2010, 07:24:55 PM
I don't understand why he isn't in the Movie. Did he have a busy schedule? Was he approached at all?
He would have done it if he was asked but Rodriguez wants to completely separate this movie from AvP. Hence no ADI.
That's not fair for Ian not asking him b/c he was in the AVPs
I think the Predators look okay. Nothing grand about them, but nothing awful like the AvP films. Love the SP with the tusks on his mask.
I'll continue to wait until I see a trailer to make my an assumption towards the film.
Deep inside we all know the Winston Predator is the real star of the movie anyway ;)
For me, at least.
Quote from: Johnny Handsome on Jan 16, 2010, 07:35:31 PM
Deep inside we all know the Winston Predator is the real star of the movie anyway ;)
For me, at least.
For me too. :)
Now whats left is that we have to see a more clear picture to judge the predators. Also , How they will act in this movie.
Well, so long as it isn't as complete a fail as the AvP movies, I suppose it will be worthwhile.
Quote from: XenoKing on Jan 16, 2010, 07:42:00 PM
Well, so long as it isn't as complete a fail as the AvP movies, I suppose it will be worthwhile.
im pretty sure they know more than anderson and the gay bros know so i wouldent be worried im looking more forward to this movie than any of the avp movies did to me so im pretty excited about this :)
Great. Designs are very good and I hope that other thing will go in thesame good direction.
Edit:
In the photo with Stans, Nikolai and Anatal there are same cages that were seen in earlier pictures.
Quote from: Yautja161 on Jan 16, 2010, 07:27:04 PM
something i want to make clear about the "fishnet".
Why would that net be for use of cloaking?
They do not wear that net all over that body, so that would mean parts without the net dont cloak.
Check pred 1 for example.
What i can remember about the net, its use is just for putting things on it.
Like whatever a pred likes to hang on its body, he can hang it in its net.
Cloaking has no way to do with that net.
Its just a freakin net.
The fishnet IS for cloaking (among other capabilities). It is to cloak flesh that is not covered by armor (which also has cloaking capabilities).
Quote from: Blaine on Jan 16, 2010, 07:56:54 PM
Quote from: Yautja161 on Jan 16, 2010, 07:27:04 PM
something i want to make clear about the "fishnet".
Why would that net be for use of cloaking?
They do not wear that net all over that body, so that would mean parts without the net dont cloak.
Check pred 1 for example.
What i can remember about the net, its use is just for putting things on it.
Like whatever a pred likes to hang on its body, he can hang it in its net.
Cloaking has no way to do with that net.
Its just a freakin net.
The fishnet IS for cloaking (among other capabilities). It is to cloak flesh that is not covered by armor (which also has cloaking capabilities).
And a heater
That is from comics and the novels its not cannon ::)
:o
so then why does the Predator from Predator 1 doesnt have his upper arm covered with that fishnet? wich some say is for cloaking or heating??.. oh my..
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Thats right!
Quote from: Blaine on Jan 16, 2010, 07:56:54 PM
Quote from: Yautja161 on Jan 16, 2010, 07:27:04 PM
something i want to make clear about the "fishnet".
Why would that net be for use of cloaking?
They do not wear that net all over that body, so that would mean parts without the net dont cloak.
Check pred 1 for example.
What i can remember about the net, its use is just for putting things on it.
Like whatever a pred likes to hang on its body, he can hang it in its net.
Cloaking has no way to do with that net.
Its just a freakin net.
The fishnet IS for cloaking (among other capabilities). It is to cloak flesh that is not covered by armor (which also has cloaking capabilities).
No it's not... Shut up with the comic shit... These are movies... MOVIES....
SO f**king true stop the comic shit thing for heavens sake !!!!!!!
Ha ha love it when people try to pass of ideas in comics as canon for movies
yeah, stop it, and stick to the movies, not some comics and whatever.
Let the damn comics out of the movies, they suck anyway.
Oooh, I can make shit up too just like the comics...
The Preds wear the nets cos they are intergalatic space lady-boy samurais.
Guys, get back to the topic. Don't turn this into a comic vs. movie canon debate.
they do look kinda sexy wearing those nets.. oops :-X
Quote from: Yautja161 on Jan 16, 2010, 08:15:17 PM
they do look kinda sexy wearing those nets.. oops :-X
WHAT!.....they look sexy all the time! :-* :)
QuoteThe fishnet IS for cloaking (among other capabilities). It is to cloak flesh that is not covered by armor (which also has cloaking capabilities).
Sorry, where'd you get this info from. I mean I haven't read it in any books or comics.
My opinion is about these pics (I haven't read the script and I want and will keep it this way ;D), that even though the design is kind of similar to Stan Winston's original, they look kind of strange. I mean they are a bit chubby, and their body isn't proportionate. I miss the body mesh as well (and so many other things), but come on, we'll see the whole. Then we can decide.
Everyone expresses relief that the super preds look reasonably normal... but we haven't even seen their faces yet. Who knows what their faces might look like?
I'd feel a lot more confident of the effects if I saw the old school style pred with his mandibles folded. That has been a huge pet peeve of mine.
Quote from: Darkness on Jan 16, 2010, 07:27:42 PM
He would have done it if he was asked but Rodriguez wants to completely separate this movie from AvP. Hence no ADI.
Well, that's dumb. Just because Ian would play a Predator, that doesn't mean the Movies would be connected. I understand no ADI, since they can't make a proper Predator to save their lifes, but not bringing Ian Whyte on board, who's gained the necessary experience to play a Predator, that was really a mistake.
Well, I hope the new guys won't disappoint.
Quote from: Darkness on Jan 16, 2010, 07:27:42 PM
Quote from: Dusk on Jan 16, 2010, 07:24:55 PM
I don't understand why he isn't in the Movie. Did he have a busy schedule? Was he approached at all?
He would have done it if he was asked but Rodriguez wants to completely separate this movie from AvP. Hence no ADI.
No ADI because they worked on AvP? What kind of reasoning is that?
What experience does one need to play a Predator and what specifically special about his performance that no other actor with the same phsyique can not immitate?
Who really cares if Ian Whyte is not the Predator?! We have Brian Steele and Derek Mears and they will be fine.
And another thing: to everyone saying the are happy and the movies not going to suck, wasn't everyone saying that after the AVP:R red band also?
How did that turn out?
Quote from: Axlotl on Jan 16, 2010, 09:17:43 PM
And another thing: to everyone saying the are happy and the movies not going to suck, wasn't everyone saying that after the AVP:R red band also?
How did that turn out?
Hence why I'm holding my reservations. Looking back I really despise that Redband trailer.
Quote from: Axlotl on Jan 16, 2010, 09:17:43 PM
And another thing: to everyone saying the are happy and the movies not going to suck, wasn't everyone saying that after the AVP:R red band also?
How did that turn out?
Some people don't like to be douche bags and complain about everything.
@Axlot
You make a good point and this movie could yet flop. However, I personally not found anything to bash so far and will keep my fingers crossed until I see it.
Quote from: DoomRulz on Jan 16, 2010, 09:13:32 PM
Quote from: Darkness on Jan 16, 2010, 07:27:42 PM
Quote from: Dusk on Jan 16, 2010, 07:24:55 PM
I don't understand why he isn't in the Movie. Did he have a busy schedule? Was he approached at all?
He would have done it if he was asked but Rodriguez wants to completely separate this movie from AvP. Hence no ADI.
No ADI because they worked on AvP? What kind of reasoning is that?
Did you watch the movie?
Anyway images do not oh no this movie is now totally awesome make... unless you're 5. Yakuza preds still have to prove themselves in deed and story, much less aesthetics. How they look is the LEAST of the potential issues.
Quote from: DoomRulz on Jan 16, 2010, 09:13:32 PM
No ADI because they worked on AvP? What kind of reasoning is that?
Getting rid of them is a plus as far as I'm concerned.
@Xhan
You really love accusing some people here of being 5 years old :)
Quote from: RakaiThwei on Jan 16, 2010, 07:15:06 AM
.....I've got to admit.. They do look good. Especially the normal Predator, who looks EXACTLY like Diablo Predator aka Anytime.
....Maybe this movie will be good...
I can rest a bit easier.
-Rakai'Thwei
i think it looks more like a combination of scar and wolf. wolf looked realy good exept his mandibles were to long.
Except his face (which was blasphemous IMO) Wolf was ok. Scar.. he's a different story, but it's not the topic here. I just... can't recognize any former predator 'figure' in these new ones. The masks and dreadlocks are ok. But their torsos and limbs look a bit funny to me.
I'm sorry but I'm totally perplexed at the positive comments around here.
With the masks on all three look they've got heads far too large for their bodies. Nothing like the athletic and sleek looking predators in Predator 1, 2 or the wolf predator.
My money is on this being shit because Hollywood are incapable of not f**king these things up.
All three masks are different and new. I like their look. One with tusks is probably best IMO.
Edit:
But still BSP have triple caster. I just hope that it`s not minigun....
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Quote from: Master on Jan 16, 2010, 09:48:05 PM
All three masks are different and new. I like their look. One with tusks is probably best IMO.
Mask wise yeah.. The tusks are cool, reminds me of Gladiator... That Pred looks a bit chubby though...
Quote from: Mystic Ninja on Jan 16, 2010, 09:14:25 PM
What experience does one need to play a Predator and what specifically special about his performance that no other actor with the same phsyique can not immitate?
That's the thing - they don't have his physique.
Ian Whyte was 7'1". Kevin Peter Hall was 7' 2". They looked big in the movies because they
were big.
The guys in the suit now are all under six and a half feet. Look at them standing next to Rodriguez - They don't look tall or imposing, they look like regular guys with oversized heads.
http://www.avpgalaxy.net/gallery/albums/movies/predator/behind/behind46.jpg
KPH is
slouched and they
still have to reach to get to his shoulder.
@Sil
I see, so its a size thing. Athletic and around 7'1 would be acceptable?
I misunderstood, I thought people were talking in term of acting. I wondered what he could do that no other can without training.
Nothing.
But he could act the part and had the size.
Also, I really hope Mears does a better job on this than he did in Friday the 13th. Jason had no character in that movie. Steele should do a good job - He was fine as the Hell Knights in Doom.
I'm sorry but anyone who says those preds look good confuse the living shit out of me, have you even watched Predator 1 and 2 where the SFX looks WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAY better than these Predators.
How the hell can Sandy Collora make much better looking set of Predators with a 30k budget (minus the crap Red Armoured Predator) and these f**ktards can't make awesome looking Predators with millions behind the project. It's embarrasing! Christ, WOLF with the Mask on looks better than these stupid pieces of shit.
Seriously, they look pathetic, hell every Lost Hunter from the ending of Predator 2 look better than these lazy assed efforts.
What a huge dissapointment!! >:( >:(
Those three Predators just don't look right. That's all I'm going to say at this point, because it's still too early to judge.
We're lucky the new Preds dont look like this
http://cghub.com/images/view/47389/
Quote from: RumorControl on Jan 16, 2010, 10:20:43 PM
Those three Predators just don't look right. That's all I'm going to say at this point, because it's still too early to judge.
Erm, judge now RumorControl, they look bloody terrible and thats how they will look in the film. The Batman: Dead End Predators look better than these Predators, it's pathetic!
Anyone think the Preds could possibly be missing some parts,for breaks in between?
Quote from: Master on Jan 16, 2010, 09:48:05 PM
All three masks are different and new. I like their look. One with tusks is probably best IMO.
Edit:
But still BSP have triple caster. I just hope that it`s not minigun....
http://img94.imageshack.us/img94/259/x05bcc876.jpg
I dont see no triple caster.
Looks like the normal one to me.
Quote from: XenoVC on Jan 16, 2010, 10:30:06 PM
Anyone think the Preds could possibly be missing some parts,for breaks in between?
They also seem to be missing a few feet in height and better visual design...
Quote from: Johnny Handsome on Jan 16, 2010, 10:32:43 PM
Quote from: Master on Jan 16, 2010, 09:48:05 PM
All three masks are different and new. I like their look. One with tusks is probably best IMO.
Edit:
But still BSP have triple caster. I just hope that it`s not minigun....
http://img94.imageshack.us/img94/259/x05bcc876.jpg
I dont see no triple caster.
Looks like the normal one to me.
Look closely at barels. There is three of them there.
Edit:
There you go
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Here's hoping the mandibles close right.
;D
Quote from: Master on Jan 16, 2010, 10:35:19 PM
Quote from: Johnny Handsome on Jan 16, 2010, 10:32:43 PM
Quote from: Master on Jan 16, 2010, 09:48:05 PM
All three masks are different and new. I like their look. One with tusks is probably best IMO.
Edit:
But still BSP have triple caster. I just hope that it`s not minigun....
http://img94.imageshack.us/img94/259/x05bcc876.jpg
I dont see no triple caster.
Looks like the normal one to me.
Look closely at barels. There is three of them there.
Edit:
There you go
http://i239.photobucket.com/albums/ff244/000Master000/x05bcc876.jpg?t=1263681619
Still not seeing them.
Sorry, I don't count more than 1 barrel.
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Predators have exactly 15 dreadlocks but the ones in the photo have 16!!! RR is destroying the beloved franchise. 16 dreads has put me right off this film!
::)
;)
I`m telling you the they are there. You`ll see it eventually... in cinema ;)
Maybe you are right, but i dont see it either.
Looks like the classic caster to me.
Let`s hope that you are right and I`m wrong. But I don`t think so.
Quote from: Mystic Ninja on Jan 16, 2010, 10:41:32 PM
Predators have exactly 15 dreadlocks but the ones in the photo have 16!!! RR is destroying the beloved franchise. 16 dreads has put me right off this film!
::)
;)
Okay, we get it. Now you're just beating a dead horse with a stick.
Seriously though, fans always find something to complain about-- you can't please everyone.
-Rakai'Thwei
I see 6 cannons
Robert Rodriguez directed Spy Kids how can we take this guy seriously i am a little worried
what is that some type of weired fish?
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isn't that suppose to be cloth
Quote from: Herk Mondo on Jan 16, 2010, 10:51:09 PM
what is that some type of weired fish?
http://img697.imageshack.us/img697/1983/x05bcc8761.jpg
isn't that suppose to be cloth
I think it's the crotch plate.
He may or may not have a skirt.
There are many things that can be done to adjust the hieght and width of the Predators. In Resident evil 2 they crunched Nemisis to make him look bigger. You can use camara angles to make them seem bigger then they actually are as well as pulling off what they did with Gandolf in LOTR and have them simply stand on elevated terrain or film them seperatly and insert them in later enlarged. I know i shouldnt mention AVPR but the pred alien looked like some form of alien midgit in set pics but in the film it seemed big and nasty. So lets just wait for the trailer at least people.
@Rakwai
Bitch you craaaaaaaizy
How am I flogging a dead horse?
Quote from: Mystic Ninja on Jan 16, 2010, 10:49:29 PM
I see 6 cannons
By being a jerk, you don`t prove that you are right. Stop posting nonsense.
Quote from: Herk Mondo on Jan 16, 2010, 10:51:09 PM
Robert Rodriguez directed Spy Kids how can we take this guy seriously i am a little worried
I don't see how that has any relevance, since he's not directing Predators and Spy Kids was a kids movie after all.
@Master
right about what?
Lets not forget he did Sin City and From Dusk till Dawn. Just because the man makes movies for his kids from time to time doesnt mean anything even if he was directing this
About six canons, about insulting Rakai. Control yourself a bit.
Ha ha
This was such a wonderfully delightful way to begin the weekend. :) . The pics are slowly spreading across the internet. Already they've been posted by Comingsoon.net, AICN, DreadCentral and Bloody-Disgusting.
Let it go Master.
We are "h8ers!" for not liking everything we get shoven up our asses ;)
As aposed to the same thing shoved up your asses repeatedly?
Excuse me for wanting a bit of variety :)
You've got some strange hobbies. I personally don't like getting anything shoved up my ass.
Quote from: Mystic Ninja on Jan 16, 2010, 11:21:08 PM
As aposed to the same thing shoved up your asses repeatedly?
Excuse me for wanting a bit of variety :)
And people accept that, now you should do the same.
It's called 'opinion'. The difference is people don't bitch and moan about yours being different.
Ha ha
It was Johnny "Handsome" that brought up the asses not me.
Just because something's different doesn't mean we have to like it. It can be different and suck balls :)
I suppose on the upside all the people who think it's gonna suck balls etc... Will have almost a better experience when they find out the movie rocks :P
Lowering your expectations. The best way to enjoy something more. :) Can't say I blame folk after the crap that has been AvPs.
Quote from: Mystic Ninja on Jan 16, 2010, 11:21:08 PM
As aposed to the same thing shoved up your asses repeatedly?
Excuse me for wanting a bit of variety :)
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Every Predator in the pic above is WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAY better than any pred in the Predators set photos. Nothing wrong with variety, but they need to look as good as the above Predators not rushed pieces of shit!
Quote from: Corporal Hicks on Jan 16, 2010, 11:27:59 PM
Lowering your expectations. The best way to enjoy something more. :) Can't say I blame folk after the crap that has been AvPs.
Yup... I'm hoping my optimism will pay off in the end...
Quote from: SiL on Jan 16, 2010, 11:24:43 PM
Just because something's different doesn't mean we have to like it. It can be different and suck balls :)
That's not possible. It is
different, that makes it
awesome by default... you evil h8er you!!
@Johnny
I don't bitch and moan. I question people about their oponion.
For example, if I read a post that says this film will suck cos the Pred has black blood and a triple cannon. I have a right to ask why?
I don't think that's bitching. The only people who are bitching are the ones who are bitching because I'm questioning their bitching!
Few days ago, I wrote a post where I state that I think the Royce Vs BSP fight is cool, many ripped it apart. Did I cry or bitch, nope, I argued back defending why I liked it.
You people do make me laugh
Quote from: Jonny05 on Jan 16, 2010, 11:28:29 PM
Quote from: Mystic Ninja on Jan 16, 2010, 11:21:08 PM
As aposed to the same thing shoved up your asses repeatedly?
Excuse me for wanting a bit of variety :)
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Every Predator in the pic above is WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAY better than any pred in the Predators set photos. Nothing wrong with variety, but they need to look as good as the above Predators not rushed pieces of shit!
Oh, Winston. How we miss you.
Quote from: Dusk on Jan 16, 2010, 11:33:52 PM
Oh, Winston. How we miss you.
[Takes a moment of silence in rememberance for Stan]
......
-Rakai'Thwei
QuoteFor example, if I read a post that says this film will suck cos the Pred has black blood and a triple cannon. I have a right to ask why?
You still ask for the reason even though the reason is already in the sentence you question.
If one thinks that the movie will suck because of that then that's the way it is, you're the one calling people haters here, i heard no one calling you an asskisser for your opinion.
Because it's pointless. Many people, including myself, aren't impressed with the new designs, so what? They don't have to share your opinion, and they don't have to vindicate their opinion for you, simply accept it.
Quote from: Dusk on Jan 16, 2010, 11:33:52 PM
Quote from: Jonny05 on Jan 16, 2010, 11:28:29 PM
Quote from: Mystic Ninja on Jan 16, 2010, 11:21:08 PM
As aposed to the same thing shoved up your asses repeatedly?
Excuse me for wanting a bit of variety :)
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Every Predator in the pic above is WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAY better than any pred in the Predators set photos. Nothing wrong with variety, but they need to look as good as the above Predators not rushed pieces of shit!
Oh, Winston. How we miss you.
Fot all you guys that are crying about nets on te preds look at the above pic only two of them preds have nets
Quote from: chrisr232007 on Jan 16, 2010, 11:42:07 PM
Quote from: Dusk on Jan 16, 2010, 11:33:52 PM
Quote from: Jonny05 on Jan 16, 2010, 11:28:29 PM
Quote from: Mystic Ninja on Jan 16, 2010, 11:21:08 PM
As aposed to the same thing shoved up your asses repeatedly?
Excuse me for wanting a bit of variety :)
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Every Predator in the pic above is WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAY better than any pred in the Predators set photos. Nothing wrong with variety, but they need to look as good as the above Predators not rushed pieces of shit!
Oh, Winston. How we miss you.
Fot all you guys that are crying about nets on te preds look at the above pic only two of them preds have nets
They still look great because of the paintjob, you can actually tell them apart, can't say the same about the new ones. They just look too dull.
@Johnny
You misunderstand me. Prob my fault since eng is not my first language.
When someones says black blood and a triple cannon will make the film suck I'm curious to know how? How are those two tiny things gonna ruin an entire movie? Yes you can say that's just that persons oponion and I should move on but why? Its a forum and its a place for debate.
Also I have been accused of being an ass kisser, not a pred fan, 5 yrs old, having a hard on for RR ect all because I question someones bitchiNg! I find it funny, I don't bitch about it.
Like I said, I'm not bitching. The only ones doing that are the ones bitching cos I'm questioning their bitching!
So which pred is the black super pred?? And which one is Derek Mears?
Quote from: Mystic Ninja on Jan 16, 2010, 11:48:54 PM
@Johnny
You misunderstand me. Prob my fault since eng is not my first language.
When someones says black blood and a triple cannon will make the film suck I'm curious to know how? How are those two tiny things gonna ruin an entire movie? Yes you can say that's just that persons oponion and I should move on but why? Its a forum and its a place for debate.
Also I have been accused of being an ass kisser, not a pred fan, 5 yrs old, having a hard on for RR ect all because I question someones bitchiNg! I find it funny, I don't bitch about it.
Like I said, I'm not bitching. The only ones doing that are the ones bitching cos I'm questioning their bitching!
Things around here would be a lot easier if you, and others, just accept others opinions, and if they want to "bitch", let them commence on their bitching. You bitching at THEIR "bitching" makes for somethin' awful. Ignore 'em!
@Hicks
It never gets heated.
I have never felt the need to report someone to a mod - only a two faced weasel incapable of having a debate with someone with a different oponion would do something like that to another Pred fan.
Any way, let's get back to the photos
QuoteWhen someones says black blood and a triple cannon will make the film suck I'm curious to know how? How are those two tiny things gonna ruin an entire movie? Yes you can say that's just that persons oponion and I should move on but why? Its a forum and its a place for debate.
It's a place for debates, but you can't change their opinions anyway, that's not what this board it there for. Neither for being arrogant and saying "People will hate for the sake of it". Have you ever considered the option that people
really don't like the new designs?
Like me, I'm defending this movie on almost every level, but if i don't like something i will say so, and i would like to do that without a premature shithead calling me a bitcher and hater.
It's
that simple, jeez.
@Johnny
I'm not trying to change their oponion. People can continue to say the film sucks cos of black blood ect for all I care. I just want them to tell me why.
look, people can bitch all they want. Occasionaly I'm gonna question them, they either answer or bitch about me questioning them. No one wants ti change someone oponion.
Jesus!
OK sooooooooooooooo how about these pics from Predators :D
I would like to question peoples bitching without some sensitive retard bitching about me questioning their bitching.
Jeez
I still want to know who Derek Mears is playing if he aint Black Super Pred? Normal Pred perhapse?
@chris
Great photos
Quote from: chrisr232007 on Jan 17, 2010, 12:03:45 AM
OK sooooooooooooooo how about these pics from Predators :D
Right, back on topic. Now that I've seen these supposedly Super Predators, I hope the original grinds them into paste.
Ok enough with this about bitching and complaing about each other opions now can we get back to talking about the pics and the movie......PLEASE
Anyone think they'll beef up the camp site with some CGI enhancements? Not to bad looking right now though.
Ya i hope ther is a great fight between the org pred and the BSP pred taht would be great.
I think Myers is playing the BSP
Quote from: Mystic Ninja on Jan 17, 2010, 12:05:48 AM
I would like to question peoples bitching without some sensitive retard bitching about me questioning their bitching.
Jeez
See, you're the one calling people's opinions bitching, just because it isnt yours.
Thank you for proving my point with yet another worthless post.
Quote from: Mystic Ninja on Jan 17, 2010, 12:09:40 AM
I think Myers is playing the BSP
No, Brian Steele is playing that one.
Quote from: Mystic Ninja on Jan 17, 2010, 12:09:40 AM
I think Myers is playing the BSP
No they said Steele is playing BSP.
Move on Johnny, I have..your boring me.
Back to topic
Brian Steele is 6'11, right?
-Rakai'Thwei
Quote from: RakaiThwei on Jan 17, 2010, 12:14:05 AM
Brian Steele is 6'11, right?
-Rakai'Thwei
6'7''
Quote from: Mystic Ninja on Jan 17, 2010, 12:03:11 AM
@Johnny
I'm not trying to change their oponion. People can continue to say the film sucks cos of black blood ect for all I care. I just want them to tell me why.
look, people can bitch all they want. Occasionaly I'm gonna question them, they either answer or bitch about me questioning them. No one wants ti change someone oponion.
Jesus!
They don't have to tell you why.
Just don't come be combative or defensive. If they do, so what, be the bigger person and be polite.
May be Myers is the classic Pred?
Quote from: Mystic Ninja on Jan 17, 2010, 12:15:31 AM
May be Myers is the classic Pred?
Thats what I thought but the guy in the first pic has the classic pred suit on and he aint Mears... so I'm not sure.
@hicks
Yes they don't have to tell me. I can still ask since 90% of people here like a debate. There is of course a minortity who start crying about it ::)
Any way, back to topic
these preds dont look to bad, im really just concerned if they move and act like the originals. I hope they are not just running around all bulky like and ripping up the jungle. We will just have to see.
@cannon
They are meant to be more violent then the originals.
QuoteThats what I thought but the guy in the first pic has the classic pred suit on and he aint Mears... so I'm not sure.
That could be Mears. He looks bald and the face could match as well.
Quote from: Herk Mondo on Jan 16, 2010, 10:51:09 PM
Robert Rodriguez directed Spy Kids how can we take this guy seriously i am a little worried
what is that some type of weired fish?
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isn't that suppose to be cloth
not always in avp and i think p2 it was a metal thing.
@ Johnny
That could also mean that the normal pred has a bigger part than from the leaked script.
Possible Spoilers with Question:
Spoiler
So now the Super preds will survive until the end and hunt Royce as the jungle burns? That's how I read the article from the other day.
If so that's pretty cool.
I really hope there is no pred and human team up
Quote from: Hybrid PM on Jan 17, 2010, 12:23:36 AM
@ Johnny
That could also mean that the normal pred has a bigger part than from the leaked script.
I hope thats the case. I would like to see the normal Predator kick some SP ass!
-Rakai'Thwei
Quote from: bobcunk on Jan 17, 2010, 12:23:06 AM
Quote from: Herk Mondo on Jan 16, 2010, 10:51:09 PM
Robert Rodriguez directed Spy Kids how can we take this guy seriously i am a little worried
what is that some type of weired fish?
http://img697.imageshack.us/img697/1983/x05bcc8761.jpg
isn't that suppose to be cloth
not always in avp and i think p2 it was a metal thing.
It was metal from the beginning
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Quote from: Hybrid PM on Jan 17, 2010, 12:23:36 AM
@ Johnny
That could also mean that the normal pred has a bigger part than from the leaked script.
I hope so, but dont think so.
Anyone notice they're lacking the net mesh on their bodies?
Quote from: genocyber on Jan 17, 2010, 01:06:14 AM
Anyone notice they're lacking the net mesh on their bodies?
Yes and it's already caused some debates. My take is that Super Preds will look different from the original Predators. I don't mind that to much. It just the designs aren't what I thought they'd be.
Quote from: echobbase79 on Jan 17, 2010, 12:25:16 AM
Spoiler
So now the Super preds will survive until the end and hunt Royce as the jungle burns? That's how I read the article from the other day.
Spoiler
I doubt it. The article pretty much describes what's already in the script - a fire is lit, Royce fights the BSP. The set photos show a scene from much, much earlier, hence all three SPs and the full cast.
These suits are very likely NOT the "Hero" suits used for the close-ups, etc. The pictures nearly always look this bad when taken like that. I remember when people would see pictures from the various Aliens movies of the Alien costumes which Tom would wear, and no shit it looks completely funky. Just like with the script, I wouldn't judge their take on the Predator costumes based on these crappy photos.
Somebody mentioned earlier that some fan-made costumes look better than these Preds. Well I have to agree with that statement.
The costumes in this video look SO good. THESE are Predators.
Quote from: Warghost on Jan 17, 2010, 02:46:44 AM
These suits are very likely NOT the "Hero" suits used for the close-ups, etc. The pictures nearly always look this bad when taken like that. I remember when people would see pictures from the various Aliens movies of the Alien costumes which Tom would wear, and no shit it looks completely funky. Just like with the script, I wouldn't judge their take on the Predator costumes based on these crappy photos.
Exactly, even so I think they look quite good. Specially the one with the animal jaw bone. But just wait til we get a better pic.
Having read the script I have to say that I am pleasantly surprised by these pictures. I really hope this movie can continue to look good. Its nice to see the BSPs arent... BSPs. They look pretty decent, but if anything a tad pale. I hope the acting in the movie is solid and not too slasher/campy.
Heres hoping for some more media.
yes from a couple of set pics snapped they are actully extremly positivly good :)
Quote from: Warghost on Jan 17, 2010, 02:46:44 AM
These suits are very likely NOT the "Hero" suits used for the close-ups, etc. The pictures nearly always look this bad when taken like that. I remember when people would see pictures from the various Aliens movies of the Alien costumes which Tom would wear, and no shit it looks completely funky.
An Alien requires angles and lighting to look right.
A Predator doesn't.
Even looking at the behind-the-scenes shots of stunt suits from
Predator 2, it looks great. These look unimpressive, especially design-wise.
And the suits Tom wore looked off because the ADI designs were shithouse to begin with.
Quote from: SiL on Jan 17, 2010, 03:15:34 AM
An Alien requires angles and lighting to look right.
A Predator doesn't.
A predator still requires good lighting...
Not really. Look at the behind the scenes stills of Predator - When the suit's done up fully, it still looks every bit as good as it does on-screen.
In certain pictures, not all.
I have to say that the set images look great :o, and the Preds look great too. I'm not still not 100% hype up yet though.
I don't care WHAT it looks like in some behind the scenes photos, if it looks brilliant onscreen in the actual movie, then friggin' great I say.
Quote from: Hybrid PM on Jan 17, 2010, 03:21:30 AM
In certain pictures, not all.
Show me one where it looks bad, by all means.
This:
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vs this (look at the massive size):
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vs this crapturds
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Sorry, just really underwhelmed at how antisuper this preds are...
They got the same skin color as the Vampires in dusk to dawn
wow! i got close with some of the characters!
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Yeah the setting, reminds me alot of the first predator movie. This movie is gonna be awesome.
There was a legitimate reason for the first creature being so tall: Everyone knew Arnie, which meant they deliberately played on that and gave the audience an enemy which looked like it made the Austrian Oak look small. It was a clever sort of psychological ploy on popular culture.
Remember that shot where it slams Dutch back agaisnt a tree by the throat? It looks real and feels real, because the whole thing is physical. All that exotic combination between tribal and industrial worked really well in that jungle setting, because you got the close-ups of metal clunking into water, looking like it had the kind of weight which only a man or creature of immense strength could just effortlessly walk around with. You saw that neon green paint dripping into the mud and sludge.
You saw it and thought, wow, this shit ain't 'Star Wars'!
It's the same quality the viewer picks up on in 'Aliens' and the aesthetic between them which amde so many people want to see the two creatures go up against one another.
And when you have two opponents who will beat and tear the living shit out of anything which moves, you automatically start bracing for what you know to be inevitable when they eventually meet up. Which, of course, could end up being anti-climactic, but if it's done right, like in 'Predator', the whole thing is a cinematic experience you want to watch again: It lives up to the hype the story projects within itself.
It's also why certain props, like the mask and gauntlets, can look a bit out of proportion when worn by a smaller person who's in that suit. :)
As for these ones, I will say that white tusks on a dark mask don't look like a great combination. The things look more slender, which is good, but the net does serve a psychological purpose. People automatically think back to tribal things when you see them worn. It makes them look primal.
But what'll work much better is if they remember to give them the little skulls to wear.
Quote from: Requiem28 on Jan 17, 2010, 04:36:40 AM
wow! i got close with some of the characters!
yes you did :o
This looks like shit. It's like "Sy-Fy" channel is making this movie with this dollar-store cast.
I can't believe you tools are getting your hopes up only to be screwed over by Hollywood and a Tarantino groupie once again.
Still great to see how something made 20 years ago still looks visually alot better. Stan Winstons predator looks absolutely amazing.
I'm hoping that the totem pred escapes and kills Celtic predators fat kid brother (far right) and his 2 little mates (with no muscle definition).
Brody looks like he's trying to hold a turd in.
This reminds me of the first AVPR photo when everyone creamed their jocks but it really wasn't that impressive.
About the heights, someone said Steele was 6'7, so I suppose with the added height of the suits, he and the others (the group of three all look the same height to me) are about 6'11? They are standing further away than Rodriguez in that photo so maybe they look smaller than they should. Still, I would prefer if they were all half a head taller than that if I'm right about the heights.
Generally, I like the feel given off by these photos, kind of reminiscent of the first film. Even Brody looks pretty solid. The classic Pred looks good, although I dunno if they got his teeth right, can't tell properly. I am also relieved we don't have that plastic fat look from AVP. The one on the right should be slimmed down a bit having said that.
Overall, fairly relieved, but they should have used genuine 7ft+ actors for the creatures.
Quote from: mace-in-the-face on Jan 17, 2010, 04:58:42 AM
This looks like shit. It's like "Sy-Fy" channel is making this movie with this dollar-store cast.
I can't believe you tools are getting your hopes up only to be screwed over by Hollywood and a Tarantino groupie once again.
Tools? That made me laugh.
Seriously, am i looking at different photo's?
"relieved we dont have that plastic fat look"
They are plastic and fat.... add soft and short in there also.
Yeah there not that impressive. Wish they wouldn't have leaked.
Quote from: Highland on Jan 17, 2010, 05:04:39 AM
Seriously, am i looking at different photo's?
"relieved we dont have that plastic fat look"
They are plastic and fat.... add soft and short in there also.
Well they don't look that bad to me, not in the instant way I was turned off by the AVP ones..but yeah, they could probably be better.
It was taken by a cellphone in REALLY harsh lighting.
Looks good so far, after reading the comic "Predator: bad blood" Ive always wanted to see two preds dukin it out.
Looking good so far, please for the love of god let this thing be done right for once!
to right man
Oh yeah and my hopes just went up from the 60's to around 75%!
Just hope that everything that is wrong with the script is wiped clean! So far that's what's happening. At least to my eyes.
No body mesh is freaking lame, but I can forgive it for now.
Gotta admit, I still don't have high expectations of this film. I hope that it'll be a decent summer flick at the least and not kill off my favorite badass hunters reputation for good. But after the two atrocities (AvP & AvPR) so i don't think anyone will blame me for not holding me breath on anything fox greenlights as far as Alien or Predator films.
Quote from: mace-in-the-face on Jan 17, 2010, 04:58:42 AM
This looks like shit. It's like "Sy-Fy" channel is making this movie with this dollar-store cast.
I can't believe you tools are getting your hopes up only to be screwed over by Hollywood and a Tarantino groupie once again.
tools? Because they like the pics?
I personaly love how primative they look and with some movie filter they might look even better. rr made awesome movies each different in it's own way like sin city, disparado, and planet terror. Nimrod is a great director from what I'm hearing. Brody is an Oscar winning actor who suprisingly looks badass. Everything seems great. We'll never know how well the movie will be till we see it.
Well....Predators seem alright, I love that the Winston Predator looks exactly like the first one. So that's a plus. Hopefully we'll get more. ;D
im actuly a little disapointed that the bsp look fairy normal i was hoping foe a bigger more badass looking thing. but im happy that they do look like predators but are a bit short.
These would've been proper Super Predators for me.
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Quote from: Dusk on Jan 17, 2010, 10:06:00 AM
These would've been proper Super Predators for me.
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Damn man , I wish they had used this as Super Predators :( They really look perfect.
Quote from: Sheridyn Fisher on Jan 17, 2010, 05:51:31 AM
Well atleast is looks better than AVP2! So alteast its not going to be some lame teeny flick!
If you are talking about WOLF , THAN NEVER , Wolf looked 10 times better than all 3 preds in the picture.
Looks like RR dident watch the Original Predator , Looks like alot of details still isent there.
And whats up with the SHORT BODY LONG LEGS ? They look f**kt up.
Maybe they plan to doctor it up with CG effects cause I wasn't especially impressed with the pics of these Pred's. Their heads look too big or their bodies not muscular enough in relation or something. Also I wonder if one that trio of Pred's is meant to be female. In any case I dunno i'll wait for a release trailer I guess before I say the film will suck or get hyped up for it.
Can't see it myself, Like dusk posted, it's easy enough to make a decent predator suit, hell even copy the originals. Not sure exactly what could be "Doctored up" to make these Predaturds look better.
Quote from: JaredK21 on Jan 17, 2010, 02:47:25 AM
Somebody mentioned earlier that some fan-made costumes look better than these Preds. Well I have to agree with that statement.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MweEMa-b1yc
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_DJOmPEik2w
The costumes in this video look SO good. THESE are Predators.
Yeah man , Im with you on this one. The first link had 1 Predator that was wearing his mask during the video , That Predator looked BADASSSSSSSSS
Apart from the oversized helmets, I like the primitive and wild look of the super preds.
The set looks pretty cool as well and kind of scary, which is all good
I just know I'm going to cringe when we get leaked photos of the 'predator dogs'.
I think the dogs will be sfx, so at best we will get some art work
Well, I don't have any expectations, so I might actually end up getting pleasently surprised by the dogs.
I bet the dogs have Pred style mouths
I don't see why they would.
Predators breeding with dogs? Eww...
Quote from: Lionhart on Jan 17, 2010, 10:18:50 AM
Quote from: Sheridyn Fisher on Jan 17, 2010, 05:51:31 AM
Well atleast is looks better than AVP2! So alteast its not going to be some lame teeny flick!
If you are talking about WOLF , THAN NEVER , Wolf looked 10 times better than all 3 preds in the picture.
Looks like RR dident watch the Original Predator , Looks like alot of details still isent there.
And whats up with the SHORT BODY LONG LEGS ? They look f**kt up.
Its a raw camphone shot. Do you know how many hours some people in Hollywood spend with props and effects?
I kinda like them. I felt relived after seeing those pictures. I`m not optymistic though, cause it still might be a failure.
Sexy predator legs :P. Nah.. cool thanks for the pictures ! :D
Quote from: Master on Jan 17, 2010, 12:21:25 PM
I kinda like them. I felt relived after seeing those pictures. I`m not optymistic though, cause it still might be a failure.
Relieved here too. But still a bit weary. Right now, I hope we have 3 bad bloods.
Well minigun caster of BSP is confirmed. I still hope that black blood is out though (and I don`t give a shit that some here thinks it`s funny issue).
Quote from: Master on Jan 17, 2010, 12:28:36 PM
Well minigun caster of BSP is confirmed. I still hope that black blood is out though (and I don`t give a shit that some here thinks it`s funny issue).
If Aliens had blue acid we'd certainly be hearing about it.
Exactly. I`d be worried too if aliens have blue blood. But for some bad designwise ideas aren`t big enough as long as there is enough gore and explosions ::)
I think this has to be the most exciting version since the original. As we all know photos won't do justice to the film especially non action photos.
@Master
A good story, well directed, with good performances and set pieces are more important to me then anything else in a film.
Don't know where you get the big explosions and gore idea from. Whatever, helps your argument even if it means making it up! Lol
Before you wet your pants, let me clarify I'm not trying to change your mind. I never was, I only ever wanted to know why you believe something like the colour of blood and a triple cannon could affect the quality of a film, when potentially the story, performances, direction ect can be good.
Clearly you don't have an answer beyond "I just do" or moaning about me making fun of your issue with black blood.
Sorry dude, my mistake.
I hope the blood is green and canon has the correct number of barrells.
Quote from: Lionhart on Jan 17, 2010, 10:32:13 AM
Quote from: JaredK21 on Jan 17, 2010, 02:47:25 AM
Somebody mentioned earlier that some fan-made costumes look better than these Preds. Well I have to agree with that statement.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MweEMa-b1yc
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_DJOmPEik2w
The costumes in this video look SO good. THESE are Predators.
Yeah man , Im with you on this one. The first link had 1 Predator that was wearing his mask during the video , That Predator looked BADASSSSSSSSS
I want costumes like that. Like...right NOW ;D
Has it occurred to anyone that the pics of the suited preds might be of stunt costumes? I know that ADR stunt costumes look nearly identical to the actual suits, but KNB is infinitely better than ADR (this is KNB, right?) and the movie has a bigger budget and cast behind it, right? I feel that while the suited images look a little shabby (might also be due to harsh lighting and cinematography, and yes, it does make a difference) the ones with the mask off look spot on.
@Alien
I have never thought of it like that. You could be right.
Harry Knowles addresses the height issue in the Reader's Talkback on Ain't It Cool News: http://www.aintitcool.com/talkback_display/43662 (http://www.aintitcool.com/talkback_display/43662)
"PREDATORS were at least 6'10" - that picture was taken from a high angle looking down at them, with things built to scale to the Predators. Don't worry, PREDATORS are plenty big."
Guess that means RR goes 6'7" :D
Rodriguez is 6'2".
He is a tall dude, and the Predators are even taller.
They are just not as huge as we are used to seeing them.
I haven't read the script yet, but there are going to be dogs that the predators control? EWWWW. With all due respect that will ruin the movie in my opinion. ???
Quote from: Mystic Ninja on Jan 17, 2010, 01:16:15 PM
@Master
A good story, well directed, with good performances and set pieces are more important to me then anything else in a film.
Don't know where you get the big explosions and gore idea from. Whatever, helps your argument even if it means making it up! Lol
Before you wet your pants, let me clarify I'm not trying to change your mind. I never was, I only ever wanted to know why you believe something like the colour of blood and a triple cannon could affect the quality of a film, when potentially the story, performances, direction ect can be good.
Clearly you don't have an answer beyond "I just do" or moaning about me making fun of your issue with black blood.
Sorry dude, my mistake.
I hope the blood is green and canon has the correct number of barrells.
Well, I already did. Many times. You just have problems to acknowledge it. So I repeat it. Black blood changes known Predator to something totally different. If you want good film, well acted with monster bleeding black blood, than go ahead! Just don`t call it Predator. It is same situation for me like with AvP-r predalien. It have totally different design and reproduction method. It`s not alien for me. Not anymore. If you want to insult me, than go ahead. I just don`t give a f**k.
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I hope the blood is green and canon has the correct number of barrells.
Canon is already three, barrelled, there is a proof in one of pictures (I think it`s over the top but ok. let it be). But black blood? I think I`m in majority of those who thinks it`s shitty.
Quote from: Johnny Handsome on Jan 17, 2010, 03:51:36 PM
Rodriguez is 6'2".
He is a tall dude, and the Predators are even taller.
They are just not as huge as we are used to seeing them.
The Predators (at least the good ones) were tall, but they weren't
huge. Broad shoulders yes, but they weren't Hulks. Not like the overgrown abominations in AvP.
Quote from: DoomRulz on Jan 17, 2010, 04:19:55 PM
Quote from: Johnny Handsome on Jan 17, 2010, 03:51:36 PM
Rodriguez is 6'2".
He is a tall dude, and the Predators are even taller.
They are just not as huge as we are used to seeing them.
The Predators (at least the good ones) were tall, but they weren't huge. Broad shoulders yes, but they weren't Hulks. Not like the overgrown abominations in AvP.
With 'huge' i meant the height, not the bulkiness.
Well at first I really liked the way the predators looked and I still have some faith that they will in the movie and these are just crappy photos. But I don't know. Also think maybe they arent fully geared up. BUT.....they just look funny. Their heads look huge. They look like bobble head versions of a predator kinda lol They one with the tusk especially. But I am still hoping they will look great in the film. I am all for something different......but sometimes different can be f**kin stupid. AVP
Cant they just look like this but with their own flavor added? This is a f**kin predator!
(https://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi926.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fad108%2Fboostedlsj%2Fproductionstill32.jpg&hash=40cc9ac94d02aaa90608d04d5c51668a22044f73)
Lets just hope their is some sort of lighting equipment for this one so we can actually see the action sequences ;)
When exactly was this minigun caster confirmed? I mean other than the script.
Quote from: boostedlsj on Jan 17, 2010, 04:31:32 PM
Well at first I really liked the way the predators looked and I still have some faith that they will in the movie and these are just crappy photos. But I don't know. Also think maybe they arent fully geared up. BUT.....they just look funny. Their heads look huge. They look like bobble head versions of a predator kinda lol They one with the tusk especially. But I am still hoping they will look great in the film. I am all for something different......but sometimes different can be f**kin stupid. AVP
Cant they just look like this but with their own flavor added? This is a f**kin predator!
http://i926.photobucket.com/albums/ad108/boostedlsj/productionstill32.jpg
Completely agree. Wolf looks gorgeous in this picture. The new Predators should just have some extra additions to the them (like maybe more spikey armor or something) to set them apart.
But I want to add that this beautiful Predator was ruined by the Strauss Brothers because of the ridiculous dark lighting they used to hide it. Maybe Antal will do the opposite for his Preds...
And on a side note, who thinks that the producers will release an official picture now that these set pictures have been released to get a REAL opinion on the Preds from the public?
@Master
I don't want a monster with black blood. You miss the point, I don't give a shit if the monster has black blood, green blood, purple blood ect you get it now? For me, story, settings, set pieces, performances, direction ect are far more important and I believe that these factors make or break a film, not the colour of blood or a triple canon.
In regards to you telling me not to call the BSP a "Predator" - sorry dude, but who are you to tell me that? Not that I give a shit but if the BSP has black blood then its a Predator!! It will be marketed as a Predator, referred to as a Predator in a movie called Predators and be seen as a Predator by 90% of the people who will watch the film. Yes people like your self can make up what ever excuse you wish to make it not a Predator - it won't matter to anyone beyond forums like this. The majority will call it a Predator. Whether you care about this or not, I honestly dont care.
Look, I don't care if you don't see it as a Pred or not. Just don't tell me not to call it a Pred.
End of story
EDIT: lets call a truce. Like you, Im a Pred fan. Peace.
Quote from: JaredK21 on Jan 17, 2010, 05:38:22 PM
And on a side note, who thinks that the producers will release an official picture now that these set pictures have been released to get a REAL opinion on the Preds from the public?
I hope so! some really great promo poster would be awesome. or at least professional set pics. i remember Ali saying that they were developing a trailer. wonder when that will be released. ;D
The PREDATORS won't look like these camera-phone-quality pictures on film -- you can be assured of that.
And to the person who suggested that these could be stunt suits -- that's basically my guess. I wouldn't be surprised. They appear to lack detail, which is where a lot of the critisism is coming from. Usually those suits look awful, the actors in them look like midgets, etc, etc, etc. I doubt these pictures show the PREDATOR suits completely "dressed." People need not overreact yet.
@warghost
Your optimism is a breath of fresh air.
I really hope this film turns out great. I think all Pred fans deserve it after AvP movies.
For those of you who worry about the Predators' height, here's a little clarification by Aintitcool's webmaster Harry Knwoles:
QuotePREDATORS were at least 6'10" - that picture was taken from a high angle looking down at them, with things built to scale to the Predators. Don't worry, PREDATORS are plenty big.
http://www.aintitcool.com/talkback_display/43662#comment_3096554 (http://www.aintitcool.com/talkback_display/43662#comment_3096554)
Harry is well-known friend of Robert Rodriguez (they both live in Austin, Texas) so I'm sure he must have visited the set (he often does).
Quote from: Stringer_Pred on Jan 17, 2010, 07:07:45 PM
For those of you who worry about the Predators' height, here's a little clarification by Aintitcool's webmaster Harry Knwoles:
QuotePREDATORS were at least 6'10" - that picture was taken from a high angle looking down at them, with things built to scale to the Predators. Don't worry, PREDATORS are plenty big.
http://www.aintitcool.com/talkback_display/43662#comment_3096554 (http://www.aintitcool.com/talkback_display/43662#comment_3096554)
Harry is well-known friend of Robert Rodriguez (they both live in Austin, Texas) so I'm sure he must have visited the set (he often does).
6'10 is pretty big in my books! however I doubt it wont please everyone since I believe the originals were over 7'1
Those Preds doon't even look like preds.
Quote from: Mystic Ninja on Jan 17, 2010, 07:30:52 PM
Quote from: Stringer_Pred on Jan 17, 2010, 07:07:45 PM
For those of you who worry about the Predators' height, here's a little clarification by Aintitcool's webmaster Harry Knwoles:
QuotePREDATORS were at least 6'10" - that picture was taken from a high angle looking down at them, with things built to scale to the Predators. Don't worry, PREDATORS are plenty big.
http://www.aintitcool.com/talkback_display/43662#comment_3096554 (http://www.aintitcool.com/talkback_display/43662#comment_3096554)
Harry is well-known friend of Robert Rodriguez (they both live in Austin, Texas) so I'm sure he must have visited the set (he often does).
6'10 is pretty big in my books! however I doubt it wont please everyone since I believe the originals were over 7'1
Not a big diff..just abt 3 inches!!
Quote from: ScarFace the Vanguard on Jan 17, 2010, 07:48:20 PM
Those Preds doon't even look like preds.
omg someone shoot this guy lol
Quote from: ScarFace the Vanguard on Jan 17, 2010, 07:48:20 PM
Those Preds don't even look like preds.
You obviously have never seen Predator 1 or 2.
That's a bit harsh :)!
Though I don't think they wouldn't resemble preds too. They are just different somehow.
Woah! Those pics look great! I really want to see this! (Even though I STILL haven't seen AVPR. :P )
Quote from: Rahul on Jan 17, 2010, 07:49:42 PM
Quote from: Mystic Ninja on Jan 17, 2010, 07:30:52 PM
Quote from: Stringer_Pred on Jan 17, 2010, 07:07:45 PM
For those of you who worry about the Predators' height, here's a little clarification by Aintitcool's webmaster Harry Knwoles:
QuotePREDATORS were at least 6'10" - that picture was taken from a high angle looking down at them, with things built to scale to the Predators. Don't worry, PREDATORS are plenty big.
http://www.aintitcool.com/talkback_display/43662#comment_3096554 (http://www.aintitcool.com/talkback_display/43662#comment_3096554)
Harry is well-known friend of Robert Rodriguez (they both live in Austin, Texas) so I'm sure he must have visited the set (he often does).
6'10 is pretty big in my books! however I doubt it wont please everyone since I believe the originals were over 7'1
Not a big diff..just abt 3 inches!!
you will be suprised ::)
I think they look rather cool, I just hope that KNB gets the faces right, and judging by the Standard Predator I don't need to worry too much, that is providing they don't go over the top with the mutant-ness :D
the only serious problem that i have with the Preds is the mask on the one in the middle. the front is almost completely flat. no arch or anything.
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I showed my little brother that picture, his first reaction:
"Why are their heads so big? Especially that one." *points to middle Pred*
Then he said:
"So, is there gonna be a Predator 3 then?"
I laughed :D
Quote from: boostedlsj on Jan 17, 2010, 04:31:32 PM
Well at first I really liked the way the predators looked and I still have some faith that they will in the movie and these are just crappy photos. But I don't know. Also think maybe they arent fully geared up. BUT.....they just look funny. Their heads look huge. They look like bobble head versions of a predator kinda lol They one with the tusk especially. But I am still hoping they will look great in the film. I am all for something different......but sometimes different can be f**kin stupid. AVP
Cant they just look like this but with their own flavor added? This is a f**kin predator!
http://i926.photobucket.com/albums/ad108/boostedlsj/productionstill32.jpg
Why does that HAVE to be a f**kin Predator?
Do you think you and I are the same build? Do you believe that EVERYONE on this board looks EXACTLY the same? Do you not think that some guys are bigger, bulkier (and I'm sure some fat f*cks as well)?
Of course we all look different.
So why the hell should EVERY flipping Predator look exactly the same.
Is it just to satisfy your fanboy wishes? ::)
The pics are now up on CHUD
Man, for all the flaws that AvP:R had, Wolf up there, all geared up and masked, looked freaking badass. And most importantly, no bobblehead at all.
Quote from: Dusk on Jan 17, 2010, 09:35:05 PM
Man, for all the flaws that AvP:R had, Wolf up there, all geared up and masked, looked freaking badass. And most importantly, no bobblehead at all.
And then he took his mask off :'(
Quote from: Sabres21768 on Jan 17, 2010, 08:59:27 PM
Quote from: boostedlsj on Jan 17, 2010, 04:31:32 PM
Well at first I really liked the way the predators looked and I still have some faith that they will in the movie and these are just crappy photos. But I don't know. Also think maybe they arent fully geared up. BUT.....they just look funny. Their heads look huge. They look like bobble head versions of a predator kinda lol They one with the tusk especially. But I am still hoping they will look great in the film. I am all for something different......but sometimes different can be f**kin stupid. AVP
Cant they just look like this but with their own flavor added? This is a f**kin predator!
http://i926.photobucket.com/albums/ad108/boostedlsj/productionstill32.jpg
Why does that HAVE to be a f**kin Predator?
Do you think you and I are the same build? Do you believe that EVERYONE on this board looks EXACTLY the same? Do you not think that some guys are bigger, bulkier (and I'm sure some fat f*cks as well)?
Of course we all look different.
So why the hell should EVERY flipping Predator look exactly the same.
Is it just to satisfy your fanboy wishes? ::)
80% of the fans on the poll agree with him. They look shizen
Quote from: Rahul on Jan 17, 2010, 07:49:42 PM
Not a big diff..just abt 3 inches!!
Kevin Peter Hall was 7'2"
without the suit. Whyte was one inch shorter.
Add the height the suit gives in the head and feet and you're tiptoing closer to seven and a half feet tall.
6'10" is way, way off.
Quote from: Doomofman on Jan 17, 2010, 09:42:49 PM
Quote from: Dusk on Jan 17, 2010, 09:35:05 PM
Man, for all the flaws that AvP:R had, Wolf up there, all geared up and masked, looked freaking badass. And most importantly, no bobblehead at all.
And then he took his mask off :'(
Well, actually didn't look too bad, the only problem was that the mandibles still didn't close properly and that the mandibles seemed too thick. But when he turned around in the chair, I thought he looked badass. The lighting and the colors were just perfect.
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Completely agree with you Dusk^
The unrated scene in AVPR with Wolf taking off his mask in the ship actually made him look pretty cool. The lighting and camera angle were done well in that scene, as well as the intro scene from the predator planet.
Quote from: SiL on Jan 17, 2010, 09:47:06 PM
Quote from: Rahul on Jan 17, 2010, 07:49:42 PM
Not a big diff..just abt 3 inches!!
Kevin Peter Hall was 7'2" without the suit. Whyte was one inch shorter.
Add the height the suit gives in the head and feet and you're tiptoing closer to seven and a half feet tall.
6'10" is way, way off.
I'm still sticking with the 'different builds just like humans' thing
Quote from: PatrinAVP11 on Jan 17, 2010, 09:49:20 PM
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That thing looks hideous, and hideously fake. Kill it with fire.
Quote from: Doomofman on Jan 17, 2010, 09:50:12 PM
I'm still sticking with the 'different builds just like humans' thing
Okay, but it's the same problem with getting people like Topher Grace to be hand-picked for kidnapping:
You're asking us to believe these guys are special, yet by all accounts they're less impressive than what we've seen before.
We've seen tougher prey, we've seen taller, more imposing Predators.
For arguments sake; In terms of, and ONLY regarding, "Head Size". Here are some of the Behind-The-Scenes pics from P2;
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(https://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg403.imageshack.us%2Fimg403%2F9154%2Fbehind44.jpg&hash=43bbfbc6d614986e5079250a946a30e34c97d7ac)
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now after seeing those compare to those of the three SP and one regular P;
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I always thought Pussyface had a massive head... Plus one of those predators in the behind the scenes shot is tiny..
Quote from: PatrinAVP11 on Jan 17, 2010, 09:49:20 PM
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Completely agree with you Dusk^
The unrated scene in AVPR with Wolf taking off his mask in the ship actually made him look pretty cool. The lighting and camera angle were done well in that scene, as well as the intro scene from the predator planet.
This isn't the scene I meant. I mean the one when he's on that other planet before he takes off.
so the consensuous is that:
AVP: mediocre, kiddy movie, average acting, lame script, shit desings.
AVPR: brilliant cinematography, shit story, shit directing, shit acting, some good designs.
and if not all the predators are the same, the difference here is exagerated.
its like predator midgetism
Quote from: SiL on Jan 17, 2010, 09:52:20 PM
You're asking us to believe these guys are special, yet by all accounts they're less impressive than what we've seen before.
We've seen tougher prey, we've seen taller, more imposing Predators.
You don't always need to look tough or special. A lot of serial murders look unassuming. You always hear people say "He was a family man." "He was a quite person." "He was so nice, I never expected that of him."
Quote from: chupacabras acheronsis on Jan 17, 2010, 09:55:56 PM
so the consensuous is that:
AVP: mediocre, kiddy movie, average acting, lame script, shit desings.
AVPR: brilliant cinematography, shit story, shit directing, shit acting, some good designs.
and if not all the predators are the same, the difference here is exagerated.
its like predator midgetism
The cinematography in AvPR is f**king awful... Some of the worst I've ever seen...
The fact also that the SP's are mutations of sorts should also be taken into account.
Quote from: SiL on Jan 17, 2010, 09:52:20 PM
Quote from: PatrinAVP11 on Jan 17, 2010, 09:49:20 PM
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That thing looks hideous, and hideously fake. Kill it with fire.
Quote from: Doomofman on Jan 17, 2010, 09:50:12 PM
I'm still sticking with the 'different builds just like humans' thing
Okay, but it's the same problem with getting people like Topher Grace to be hand-picked for kidnapping:
You're asking us to believe these guys are special, yet by all accounts they're less impressive than what we've seen before.
We've seen tougher prey, we've seen taller, more imposing Predators.
Spoiler
Is Edwin (not Topher but the character his playing) not a serial killer who is on the FBI list or something. To be on that list you have to be pretty bad. So may be his a perfect serial killer, he hunts down his prey well, makes the kill and expertly leaves the scene without getting caught. Is it not possible for a Pred to appreciate that I want to kill him. May be he was added to the kidnapped group as a "warmer upper" for the bigger tougher prey like Royce, Nikoli ect however Edwin, as always, is underestimated and survives longer using his brain.
Quote from: Dusk on Jan 17, 2010, 09:56:56 PM
You don't always need to look tough or special. A lot of serial murders look unassuming. You always hear people say "He was a family man." "He was a quite person." "He was so nice, I never expected that of him."
And yet what the heck's he going to do to a Predator?
It explicitly states he likes watching people die. He's not a fighter. He poses zero threat to a Predator unless he manages to drug it somehow, and like hell that's going to happen.
very true MysticNinja
Quote from: Dusk on Jan 17, 2010, 09:54:22 PM
Quote from: PatrinAVP11 on Jan 17, 2010, 09:49:20 PM
as well as the intro scene from the predator planet.
This isn't the scene I meant. I mean the one when he's on that other planet before he takes off.
All I'm saying is that the lighting and angles of the wrecked ship scene weren't THAT bad, I DO think the bottom mandibles need to be angled in more like the original but other than that it still looks acceptionally good to me.
But yeah this is the shot your talking about, and it was the BEST shot of Wolf. No question.
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Quote from: SiL on Jan 17, 2010, 09:59:26 PM
Quote from: Dusk on Jan 17, 2010, 09:56:56 PM
You don't always need to look tough or special. A lot of serial murders look unassuming. You always hear people say "He was a family man." "He was a quite person." "He was so nice, I never expected that of him."
And yet what the heck's he going to do to a Predator?
It explicitly states he likes watching people die. He's not a fighter. He poses zero threat to a Predator unless he manages to drug it somehow, and like hell that's going to happen.
Who knows. Maybe they just simple like to hunt other Predators? And somehow he managed to be one step ahead of the FBI, so he must do something right. Or maybe they like to mix their prey with a wildcard, to see what they'll do when they get attacked from the inside?
Or maybe the people writing the script didn't bother considering their own concept enough.
Hm, the only thing about the Predators I'm a bit, not concerned, but disappointed about, is the lack of weaponry.
All I can see is the shoulder cannon. Aside from that, they look pretty plain. Which isn't a bad thing per-say, but I was hoping to see a bit more weaponry.
I'm sure they weren't all geared up in those pictures.
Quote from: Sabres21768 on Jan 17, 2010, 08:59:27 PM
Quote from: boostedlsj on Jan 17, 2010, 04:31:32 PM
Well at first I really liked the way the predators looked and I still have some faith that they will in the movie and these are just crappy photos. But I don't know. Also think maybe they arent fully geared up. BUT.....they just look funny. Their heads look huge. They look like bobble head versions of a predator kinda lol They one with the tusk especially. But I am still hoping they will look great in the film. I am all for something different......but sometimes different can be f**kin stupid. AVP
Cant they just look like this but with their own flavor added? This is a f**kin predator!
http://i926.photobucket.com/albums/ad108/boostedlsj/productionstill32.jpg
Why does that HAVE to be a f**kin Predator?
Do you think you and I are the same build? Do you believe that EVERYONE on this board looks EXACTLY the same? Do you not think that some guys are bigger, bulkier (and I'm sure some fat f*cks as well)?
Of course we all look different.
So why the hell should EVERY flipping Predator look exactly the same.
Is it just to satisfy your fanboy wishes? ::)
haha Fanboy wishes? Man I am all for something different and I'm still 75% sure these predators will look good in the film. BUT if their proportions look like this in the film then it is gonna look hilarious. Which is why I can not imagine it turning our this way. Does every predator have to look the same? No. Sure they don't. BUT if I was gonna make a predator movie would I pick a predator that looks absolutely bad ass and menacing like WOLF or a pale little bobbleheaded pussy like these 3 kinda look like? Well ask yourself that...Like I said I really think they are gonna look bad ass on film for a few reasons. But if they dont...you look at the difference. Wolf looks like he would kill, rape and eat those 3 preds man.
Do they all have to look the same? Nope sure don't. But to be the 3 menacing bad asses in the movie? Well that would be like casting me as Arnie in P1. Sure all humans come in different shapes and sizes but do not think people would be thrilled to watch.
PLEASE MAKE THE PREDATORS BAD ASS!!!!
Truly yours Sabres21768,
Fan Boy
Quote from: Ultrapredator on Jan 17, 2010, 10:08:24 PM
Hm, the only thing about the Predators I'm a bit, not concerned, but disappointed about, is the lack of weaponry.
All I can see is the shoulder cannon. Aside from that, they look pretty plain. Which isn't a bad thing per-say, but I was hoping to see a bit more weaponry.
The BSP (Steeles predator) has wrist blades... An unusual design yes.. but they're there
Quote from: Dusk on Jan 17, 2010, 10:09:43 PM
I'm sure they weren't all geared up in those pictures.
Hopefully not, but we'll see. ;D
Quote from: SiL on Jan 17, 2010, 09:52:20 PM
Quote from: PatrinAVP11 on Jan 17, 2010, 09:49:20 PM
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That thing looks hideous, and hideously fake. Kill it with fire.
Quote from: Doomofman on Jan 17, 2010, 09:50:12 PM
I'm still sticking with the 'different builds just like humans' thing
Okay, but it's the same problem with getting people like Topher Grace to be hand-picked for kidnapping:
You're asking us to believe these guys are special, yet by all accounts they're less impressive than what we've seen before.
We've seen tougher prey, we've seen taller, more imposing Predators.
Oh come one lol! The Wolf with his mask off wasn't for the most part very impressive. But he does look pretty bad ass in the shot. But thats your opinion man
Quote from: Dusk on Jan 17, 2010, 10:04:16 PM
Quote from: SiL on Jan 17, 2010, 09:59:26 PM
Quote from: Dusk on Jan 17, 2010, 09:56:56 PM
You don't always need to look tough or special. A lot of serial murders look unassuming. You always hear people say "He was a family man." "He was a quite person." "He was so nice, I never expected that of him."
And yet what the heck's he going to do to a Predator?
It explicitly states he likes watching people die. He's not a fighter. He poses zero threat to a Predator unless he manages to drug it somehow, and like hell that's going to happen.
Who knows. Maybe they just simple like to hunt other Predators? And somehow he managed to be one step ahead of the FBI, so he must do something right. Or maybe they like to mix their prey with a wildcard, to see what they'll do when they get attacked from the inside?
I agree. Edwin is a guy who has made it to the FBI list, his got to be good at what he does and thats hunting people, killing them and then leaving without getting caught. I dont see why a Predator wont appreciate that quality.
Yes, Edwin poses no immediate threar to a Predator but what human does. Edwins strength is his ability to manipulate people, to come across as no threat but potentially is the biggest threat. Not to the Predator but to the other humans in the Prey party. May be he was selected to f**k things up from within. To increase the fear and adrenaline - its not normal Pred behaviour but the SP are not your normal Preds, they appear to enjot stuff like that.
The Predators were probably observing him for a very long time before they took him and I dont think its to hard to believe that the Preds wont respect his obvious talents. He may not be the strongest, but his probably the cleverest (on a par with Royce, best allrounder) and his a survivor.
His a wuss when it comes to a fist fight, but his clever and manipulative enough to avoid that fist fight and then stab you in the back when you least expect it. Yes no honour, but his survived and your dead.
Spoiler
He would have survived in the story had Isabelle not turned alien or whatever the f**k happened with her! still confused.
Quote from: Dusk on Jan 17, 2010, 10:04:16 PM
Quote from: SiL on Jan 17, 2010, 09:59:26 PM
Quote from: Dusk on Jan 17, 2010, 09:56:56 PM
You don't always need to look tough or special. A lot of serial murders look unassuming. You always hear people say "He was a family man." "He was a quite person." "He was so nice, I never expected that of him."
And yet what the heck's he going to do to a Predator?
It explicitly states he likes watching people die. He's not a fighter. He poses zero threat to a Predator unless he manages to drug it somehow, and like hell that's going to happen.
Who knows. Maybe they just simple like to hunt other Predators? And somehow he managed to be one step ahead of the FBI, so he must do something right. Or maybe they like to mix their prey with a wildcard, to see what they'll do when they get attacked from the inside?
Predators are serial killers - they enjoy killing. They're wusses like Edwin. They slay you while being invisible behind a tree.
They saw that he was like them.
Quote from: Doomofman on Jan 17, 2010, 09:57:28 PM
Quote from: chupacabras acheronsis on Jan 17, 2010, 09:55:56 PM
so the consensuous is that:
AVP: mediocre, kiddy movie, average acting, lame script, shit desings.
AVPR: brilliant cinematography, shit story, shit directing, shit acting, some good designs.
and if not all the predators are the same, the difference here is exagerated.
its like predator midgetism
The cinematography in AvPR is f**king awful... Some of the worst I've ever seen...
It's pretty good as evidenced by the trailer.
The stupid ass color correction f**king shat all over it.
Quote from: Dusk on Jan 16, 2010, 10:41:28 PM
Sorry, I don't count more than 1 barrel.
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I see three different barrels there. Look closely. Its all at the end.
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Sorry, I don't count more than 1 barrel.
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I see three different barrels there. Look closely. Its all at the end.
:D
Quote from: SiL on Jan 17, 2010, 09:47:06 PM
Quote from: Rahul on Jan 17, 2010, 07:49:42 PM
Not a big diff..just abt 3 inches!!
Kevin Peter Hall was 7'2" without the suit. Whyte was one inch shorter.
Add the height the suit gives in the head and feet and you're tiptoing closer to seven and a half feet tall.
6'10" is way, way off.
And add those inches to 6'10 and you get around the same thing anyway.
Quote from: XenoVC on Jan 17, 2010, 10:18:57 PM
Quote from: Doomofman on Jan 17, 2010, 09:57:28 PM
Quote from: chupacabras acheronsis on Jan 17, 2010, 09:55:56 PM
so the consensuous is that:
AVP: mediocre, kiddy movie, average acting, lame script, shit desings.
AVPR: brilliant cinematography, shit story, shit directing, shit acting, some good designs.
and if not all the predators are the same, the difference here is exagerated.
its like predator midgetism
The cinematography in AvPR is f**king awful... Some of the worst I've ever seen...
It's pretty good as evidenced by the trailer.
The stupid ass color correction f**king shat all over it.
Well yeah.. the final products cinematography is shocking... But you're right the trailer was much nicer...
I know it's a lot to ask, considering the history of the series, but... can we at least wait until a trailer before calling a movie terrible?
I personally love the look of the predators. And we don't know how the characters will be handled.
Quote from: Doomofman on Jan 17, 2010, 10:25:10 PM
Quote from: XenoVC on Jan 17, 2010, 10:18:57 PM
Quote from: Doomofman on Jan 17, 2010, 09:57:28 PM
Quote from: chupacabras acheronsis on Jan 17, 2010, 09:55:56 PM
so the consensuous is that:
AVP: mediocre, kiddy movie, average acting, lame script, shit desings.
AVPR: brilliant cinematography, shit story, shit directing, shit acting, some good designs.
and if not all the predators are the same, the difference here is exagerated.
its like predator midgetism
The cinematography in AvPR is f**king awful... Some of the worst I've ever seen...
It's pretty good as evidenced by the trailer.
The stupid ass color correction f**king shat all over it.
Well yeah.. the final products cinematography is shocking... But you're right the trailer was much nicer...
Agree 100%.
Quote from: Pvt. Hicks on Jan 17, 2010, 10:24:46 PM
And add those inches to 6'10 and you get around the same thing anyway.
The Predators are 6'10" fully suited.
Ah.
It's weird they couldn't find another 7ft guy. They could have simply brought Ian Whyte back, but Robert Rodriguez absolutely refused, not wanting anyone involved in AvP to taint this movie, despite Whyte being alright.
That's not only pretty immature, it's plenty unprofessional.
So what he was in the AvPs. It's not like anyone beyond a fan would know.
Seriously, and he's just the guy behind the mask. It's not like getting someone like Lance Henriksen to play another cameo. You put that guy in a giant suit and he'll be another Predator that has nothing to do with the AvP franchise.
What's worse, far as I'm concerned, is Anderson managed to find two 6'9" stunt men (who still looked way too short) for AvP. They could've got Whyte and those two guys back, and play the height difference off in the movie.
Instead they went for shorter people who, with the suit, are barely taller than AvP's stunt men. Who people bitched about looking too short.
Ian Whyte brings nothing special to the role of Pred that no other actor cannot
do with training. No big deal.
Except being a good three inches taller without a suit than everyone in Predators with a suit.
Quote from: SiL on Jan 17, 2010, 10:35:05 PM
Except being a good three inches taller without a suit than everyone in Predators with a suit.
Well what are your thoughts on Warner digging the movie?
6'10, 7'2...both big SOB! Not really a big deal
Lol, until now I thought people bitching about black blood and triple cannon was bad. This is the new winner, its gonna take something big to top this!
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Quote from: Mystic Ninja on Jan 17, 2010, 10:38:16 PM
6'10, 7'2...both big SOB! Not really a big deal
Actors in this Movie are 6'10" WITH the suit. Whyte is 7'2' WITHOUT the suit. Now put Whyte in a suit and the height difference is pretty noticable.
Quote from: Mystic Ninja on Jan 17, 2010, 10:38:16 PM
6'10, 7'2...both big SOB! Not really a big deal
ok once again they are 6'10" WITH the suit! Ian is 7'2" without the suit! Ian in the suit is almost a foot taller. Plus I do think he brought something that these guys might not be able to. Not saying they can't obviously that is yet to be seen but Ian was fantastic as Wolf. All of his movements and jestures were my favorite out of all the movies. But we will see.
Quote from: Pvt. Hicks on Jan 17, 2010, 10:37:48 PM
Well what are your thoughts on Warner digging the movie?
I could care less.
Quote from: Mystic Ninja on Jan 17, 2010, 10:38:16 PM
6'10, 7'2...both big SOB! Not really a big deal
Remember everyone bitching about the Predators in AvP looking short and fat?
Y'know why?
Cos a lot of the time they had shorter stunt people. And by shorter, I mean 6'9", bigger than anyone playing a Predator in this movie.
We have seen what happens when you don't put 7 foot tall people in the suit; people bitch and moan
because they don't look right.
You know somethings not quite right when the excuses start flying around.
In short (no pun intended) so far we've got
Predators are too short
Proportions look out
No muscle definition
Not menacing
No apparent upgraded weaponry or armour.
I'm struggling to find a point to the whole story now? why not just make 2 different versions of the regular pred?
Yes, I'm sure Ian Whyte will look a lot bigger but his not been hired and I don't think its a big deal.
The guys they have hired are not exactly midgets, they are 6'10 - big enough in my books.
Camera angles are everything. And the shot of the pred without a mask is ace.
Quote from: Mystic Ninja on Jan 17, 2010, 10:46:12 PM
The guys they have hired are not exactly midgets, they are 6'10 - big enough in my books.
6'10" with suits.
All I'm sayin' is, remember AvP, and how the Predators looked in that.
Quote from: SiL on Jan 17, 2010, 10:43:48 PM
Quote from: Pvt. Hicks on Jan 17, 2010, 10:37:48 PM
Well what are your thoughts on Warner digging the movie?
I could care less.
Quote from: Mystic Ninja on Jan 17, 2010, 10:38:16 PM
6'10, 7'2...both big SOB! Not really a big deal
Remember everyone bitching about the Predators in AvP looking short and fat?
Y'know why?
Cos a lot of the time they had shorter stunt people. And by shorter, I mean 6'9", bigger than anyone playing a Predator in this movie.
We have seen what happens when you don't put 7 foot tall people in the suit; people bitch and moan because they don't look right.
Maybe the only person left in the whole world that is over 7 foot is Ian Whyte. But he isnt worthy of this movie. Or maybe Ian is on a tropical island mating with all kinds of women trying to save his 7 foot + Race. Maybe the NBA just uses camera angles man. Maybe I am drunk. Maybe
@Sil
Yes, I remember AvP and the Preds looked short for the reasons you mentioned earlier. However, I could have dealt with that if the film it self was entertaining.
Quote from: Mystic Ninja on Jan 17, 2010, 10:46:12 PM
Yes, I'm sure Ian Whyte will look a lot bigger but his not been hired and I don't think its a big deal.
I think it is, when you pass up on a guy that could be a freaking giant Predator and doesn't require the extra training, that these guys have to go through. And Derek Mears doesn't exactly strike me as a guy to get the subtle Predator movements right.
QuoteThe guys they have hired are not exactly midgets, they are 6'10 - big enough in my books.
Do you just ignore the posts? Again, they are 6'10" with the suits on. Ian Whyte without the Predator suit is already taller than them. With Ian Whyte in the Predator suit, where talking about more than 2-3 inches difference in height.
man him sil need to stop bitching all that comes out of his mouth is shit xD jesus christ !
we got some damn set pics get over it awwww is the predator only 6,10 :( booohu eat a cookie it dosent freaking matter if the pred isent a keven peter hall size you guys only bitch for the sake of it you never try to find anything good always bitching speicaly you sil you bitch about anything expect your perfect little alien 1 (whos the worst alien of them all man in a suit ) :P (someone should kick you in the nutter xD)
They do look small compared to what we are used to, but I assume some decent film-making tricks should take care of that.
On the note of the Predators I do still stand by the fact that I am relieved by seeing them. That said they arent perfect, nowhere close. They just seem to be closer to the orginal designs than I thought they would and look a lot better than the avp ones. Also Im glad they aren't the BSPs that were in the script.
As for the suits? They look kinda.. Unfinished. They seem to all look very pale and with little detail. That said, the quality may be causing that. Also, where is the mesh? They look awkwardly naked or something. I still stand by that they are better than I had hoped, but there is obvious room for improvement.
The masks look decent in concept but poor in execution.. But that could be picture quality again. I am still willing to bet this movie will be a vast improvement over the AVP movies.
Quote from: dallevalle on Jan 17, 2010, 10:52:22 PM
man him sil need to stop bitching all that comes out of his mouth is shit xD jesus christ !
we got some damn set pics get over it awwww is the predator only 6,10 :( booohu eat a cookie it dosent freaking matter if the pred isent a keven peter hall size you guys only bitch for the sake of it you never try to find anything good always bitching speicaly you sil you bitch about anything expect your perfect little alien 1 :P (someone should kick you in the nutter xD)
At least Sil can write out a decent and understanding post. :P
ah yes go on about the spelling your so smart ::)
Quote from: dallevalle on Jan 17, 2010, 10:56:21 PM
ah yes go on about the spelling your so smart ::)
Smarter than you. ;D
i dont think so
The stills are about as unofficial as you can get. Why do people keep asking wheres the mesh, armor etc? The picture of the 3 of them standing together should be taken in the same vein as the one where they don't even have the heads attached.
@Dusk
Ok ok, they are 6'10 with the suits. Its a shame Ian White never got hired, but that and Predators being over 7'0 instead of 6'10 is not going to make or break the film. That's why I don't think its a big deal.
If they hired someone my height, 6'1, then I can agree but 6'10 is still fricken big!!
Anyone have the heights of the humans?
Quote from: Mystic Ninja on Jan 17, 2010, 10:57:55 PM
@Dusk
Ok ok, they are 6'10 with the suits. Its a shame Ian White never got hired, but that and Predators being over 7'0 instead of 6'10 is not going to make or break the film. That's why I don't think its a big deal.
If they hired someone my height, 6'1, then I can agree but 6'10 is still fricken big!!
Anyone have the heights of the humans?
mystic ninja its no big deal at all they only want to bitch about it ( its like people dont want it to be good)
and echo i dident talk to you to begin with so zip it ;)
Quote from: Dusk on Jan 17, 2010, 10:52:05 PM
Do you just ignore the posts? Again, they are 6'10" with the suits on. Ian Whyte without the Predator suit is already taller than them. With Ian Whyte in the Predator suit, where talking about more than 2-3 inches difference in height.
I agree, Ian Whyte is 7'1 WITHOUT the suit on. They should have at least spoke to him about having a part. But i think these guys will do pretty good.
Quote from: Mystic Ninja on Jan 17, 2010, 10:57:55 PM
@Dusk
Ok ok, they are 6'10 with the suits. Its a shame Ian White never got hired, but that and Predators being over 7'0 instead of 6'10 is not going to make or break the film. That's why I don't think its a big deal.
If they hired someone my height, 6'1, then I can agree but 6'10 is still fricken big!!
Anyone have the heights of the humans?
I kinda agree but it is the difference from the predator being 6'10" compared to 7'8". Im 5'10" my best friend is 6'5" and while it doesnt seem like that big of difference it is. I mean he towers over me and thats at a 7" difference not 10" difference. But we will see what they do with the camera
There'll be a lot of standing on boxes.
Quote from: Dusk on Jan 17, 2010, 11:03:55 PM
There'll be a lot of standing on boxes.
overreacting abit xD :D
Hopefully RR Preds have the correct number of dreadlocks to the original otherwise this place is gonna explode!
Quote from: Mystic Ninja on Jan 17, 2010, 11:06:21 PM
Hopefully RR Preds have the correct number of dreadlocks to the original otherwise this place is gonna explode!
or maby they are to LONG !!! xD man people need to chill at least wait for a trailer for god sake.
for f**ks sake stop telling people to calm down! were here for some constructive criticism, if you dont like it just leave the thread. >:(
How's this constructive? It would be constructive if you could see the final product and TALK TO THE PEOPLE WHO MADE IT otherwise it's just criticism! Of something that might not even be final, as seen from a cameraphone! You can't even see the textures, the lighting is so bad! Chill! It'll be fine!
Quote from: chupacabras acheronsis on Jan 17, 2010, 11:09:37 PM
for f**ks sake stop telling people to calm down! were here for some constructive criticism, if you dont like it just leave the thread. >:(
hey you can relax to ;)
man im just saying people should f**king wait for the trailer and stop f**king bitching over a couple of set pics and who called you up.
Quote from: dallevalle on Jan 17, 2010, 11:11:08 PM
Quote from: chupacabras acheronsis on Jan 17, 2010, 11:09:37 PM
for f**ks sake stop telling people to calm down! were here for some constructive criticism, if you dont like it just leave the thread. >:(
hey you can relax to ;)
man im just saying people should f**king wait for the trailer and stop f**king bitching over a couple of set pics and who called you up.
Seriously, if you don't like it then what are you doing in this Thread? You know what direction the discussion mostly goes. So why don't you follow your own advise and wait for the Trailer and spend your time in threads without bitching?
Quote from: dallevalle on Jan 17, 2010, 10:59:38 PM
Quote from: Mystic Ninja on Jan 17, 2010, 10:57:55 PM
@Dusk
Ok ok, they are 6'10 with the suits. Its a shame Ian White never got hired, but that and Predators being over 7'0 instead of 6'10 is not going to make or break the film. That's why I don't think its a big deal.
If they hired someone my height, 6'1, then I can agree but 6'10 is still fricken big!!
Anyone have the heights of the humans?
mystic ninja its no big deal at all they only want to bitch about it ( its like people dont want it to be good)
and echo i dident talk to you to begin with so zip it ;)
;D
I e-mailed Derek Mears on Facebook about how they're shooting the preds so hopefully this can be put to rest soon.
Quote from: Dusk on Jan 17, 2010, 11:14:22 PM
Quote from: dallevalle on Jan 17, 2010, 11:11:08 PM
Quote from: chupacabras acheronsis on Jan 17, 2010, 11:09:37 PM
for f**ks sake stop telling people to calm down! were here for some constructive criticism, if you dont like it just leave the thread. >:(
hey you can relax to ;)
man im just saying people should f**king wait for the trailer and stop f**king bitching over a couple of set pics and who called you up.
Seriously, if you don't like it then what are you doing in this Thread? You know what direction the discussion mostly goes. So why don't you follow your own advise and wait for the Trailer and spend your time in threads without bitching?
wait who said i dident like it !! ?? ^^ im having a blast its fun to talk against people who whines over the smallest things.
and alright echo haha that sounds great ^^
Well guys.. may be those Predators are short 'cause they're hobbits of the Predators? Wasn't something special about them in the script? Black Predators are supposed to be baddasses, am I right? So they could be small - just like Pigmeys - 5 feet tall tribesmen in Africa. 5 feet tall guys hunting 5 metres high elephants with stone age spears and bows! Could you be any tougher than that?
I mean - seriously - 5 feet versus 17 feet!!! Wow!
I hope that brought some smiles on Your faces.. but seriously speaking this movie is going to be b-movie disaster! The size of the Preds could be redone like in scenes from LotR with Gandalf and Bilbo using very simple methods.. but script remains the same. And this is grave news for me.
Predator 4 must have 4'1 Bad Blood King Predator voiced by Sean Connery - I predict there will be a mass suicide on all AvP forums
Quote from: echobbase79 on Jan 17, 2010, 11:15:20 PM
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@Dusk
Ok ok, they are 6'10 with the suits. Its a shame Ian White never got hired, but that and Predators being over 7'0 instead of 6'10 is not going to make or break the film. That's why I don't think its a big deal.
If they hired someone my height, 6'1, then I can agree but 6'10 is still fricken big!!
Anyone have the heights of the humans?
mystic ninja its no big deal at all they only want to bitch about it ( its like people dont want it to be good)
and echo i dident talk to you to begin with so zip it ;)
;D
I e-mailed Derek Mears on Facebook about how they're shooting the preds so hopefully this can be put to rest soon.
Good luck getting a response to that...
Quote from: Doomofman on Jan 17, 2010, 11:17:42 PM
Quote from: echobbase79 on Jan 17, 2010, 11:15:20 PM
Quote from: dallevalle on Jan 17, 2010, 10:59:38 PM
Quote from: Mystic Ninja on Jan 17, 2010, 10:57:55 PM
@Dusk
Ok ok, they are 6'10 with the suits. Its a shame Ian White never got hired, but that and Predators being over 7'0 instead of 6'10 is not going to make or break the film. That's why I don't think its a big deal.
If they hired someone my height, 6'1, then I can agree but 6'10 is still fricken big!!
Anyone have the heights of the humans?
mystic ninja its no big deal at all they only want to bitch about it ( its like people dont want it to be good)
and echo i dident talk to you to begin with so zip it ;)
;D
I e-mailed Derek Mears on Facebook about how they're shooting the preds so hopefully this can be put to rest soon.
Good luck getting a response to that...
Yeah, and I'm sure I'm not the only one that has asked this question too. But I don't see a problem with answering something like that if he has the time of course.
It is constructive because the movie hasnt been finished yet.
waiting for the trailer is like waiting for the movie to get released and then bitch. it wont make any difference by that point.
hey mr echo ( lost) ^^ is there anything at all you like about the set pics ??
and your wrong chupa up there im only saying this becuse your bitching about freaking set pics il repect it in the trailer if its crap.
I am NOT happy! I just noticed one of the Predator's toe nails is shorter than the other!.......DAMN!
I hope that made someone laugh!
whatever. im here to deffend the 1rst ammendment. ::)
Quote from: dallevalle on Jan 17, 2010, 11:20:40 PM
hey mr echo ( lost) ^^ is there anything at all you like about the set pics ??
and your wrong chupa up there im only saying this becuse your bitching about freaking set pics il repect it in the trailer if its crap.
Nothing horrible, nothing special. I like the helmet with the tusks at the end of it.
Quote from: Maxwell on Jan 17, 2010, 11:22:46 PM
I am NOT happy! I just noticed one of the Predator's toe nails is shorter than the other!.......DAMN!
I hope that made someone laugh!
i laughed !! ^^
but anyway man im so excited about this movie the actors looks hardcore ! broly :D looks actully very bad ass.
Quote from: echobbase79 on Jan 17, 2010, 11:24:05 PM
Quote from: dallevalle on Jan 17, 2010, 11:20:40 PM
hey mr echo ( lost) ^^ is there anything at all you like about the set pics ??
and your wrong chupa up there im only saying this becuse your bitching about freaking set pics il repect it in the trailer if its crap.
Nothing horrible, nothing special. I like the helmet with the tusks at the end of it.
hmmm ya well we need that damn trailer to see how good they will look on screen ( man sorry if i was abit rude lol) ( and now he says sorry what have i become) ^^ but anyway lets hope its gonna be a great movie :)
( AND IM SO SORRY FOR DOUBLE POST SORRY !!!!)
The trailer does help. ;)
Quote from: echobbase79 on Jan 17, 2010, 11:27:31 PM
The trailer does help. ;)
yup and they are allready working on it so lets hope it wont take to long ^^ it would be nice if it came out next week ^^ ( i know im dreaming) :P
All Preds are 7'2 fishnet wearing intergalactic transsexual space samurai clones - its canon
Quote from: dallevalle on Jan 17, 2010, 11:29:49 PM
Quote from: echobbase79 on Jan 17, 2010, 11:27:31 PM
The trailer does help. ;)
yup and they are allready working on it so lets hope it wont take to long ^^ it would be nice if it came out next week ^^ ( i know im dreaming) :P
I hope they don't show much in the trailer as far as creatures go, but I guess that's kind of silly considering these leaked photos. I wish they wouldn't have leaked.
I'm sure the acting by the performers will help too. Mears and Steele are definitely up for the job.
Yes, hopefully the trailer don't reveal too much. For the sake of the people with patience and not read script
Quote from: echobbase79 on Jan 17, 2010, 11:27:31 PM
The trailer does help. ;)
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It really does...
Yeah - it's canon all the way:
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/4/43/Fishnet_stockings_from_below.jpg (http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/4/43/Fishnet_stockings_from_below.jpg)
;D
Quote from: echobbase79 on Jan 17, 2010, 11:32:59 PM
Quote from: dallevalle on Jan 17, 2010, 11:29:49 PM
Quote from: echobbase79 on Jan 17, 2010, 11:27:31 PM
The trailer does help. ;)
yup and they are allready working on it so lets hope it wont take to long ^^ it would be nice if it came out next week ^^ ( i know im dreaming) :P
I hope they don't show much in the trailer as far as creatures go, but I guess that's kind of silly considering these leaked photos. I wish they wouldn't have leaked.
I'm sure the acting by the performers will help too. Mears and Steele are definitely up for the job.
true and it is a teaser trailer BUT i hope its not like the avp 1 teaser ( they could show abit more) to keep us teased and excited for more ^^
and the actors we got in this movie , at least they are good and can act ( the only really good actor in avp was lance).
Quote from: Doomofman on Jan 17, 2010, 11:35:04 PM
Quote from: echobbase79 on Jan 17, 2010, 11:27:31 PM
The trailer does help. ;)
http://www.chinesemol.com/member/upload/product/86935882/20069268503712707.jpg
It really does...
Ha...ha....ha. :)
Quote from: echobbase79 on Jan 17, 2010, 11:37:25 PM
Quote from: Doomofman on Jan 17, 2010, 11:35:04 PM
Quote from: echobbase79 on Jan 17, 2010, 11:27:31 PM
The trailer does help. ;)
http://www.chinesemol.com/member/upload/product/86935882/20069268503712707.jpg
It really does...
Ha...ha....ha. :)
hahahaha no no its to big xD they show to much of it ^^
Thought I'd lighten the mood
Quote from: Doomofman on Jan 17, 2010, 11:38:02 PM
Thought I'd lighten the mood
its cool doomofman and thanks for that ^^
Quote from: dallevalle on Jan 17, 2010, 10:52:22 PM
man him sil need to stop bitching all that comes out of his mouth is shit xD jesus christ !
wich is totes y i sed i liked teh 'reg' pred and tohught it looked colo XD jesus christ go f**k urself
My point was simple: We've seen short Predators in these movies, people don't like them, and look, they're all short. Maybe not the smartest move on the filmmakers' part.
That is all.
Quote from: SiL on Jan 17, 2010, 11:39:05 PM
Quote from: dallevalle on Jan 17, 2010, 10:52:22 PM
man him sil need to stop bitching all that comes out of his mouth is shit xD jesus christ !
wich is totes y i sed i liked teh 'reg' pred and tohught it looked colo XD jesus christ go f**k urself
My point was simple: We've seen short Predators in these movies, people don't like them, and look, they're all short. Maybe not the smartest move on the filmmakers' part.
That is all.
sil dont make fun of the way i spell and it was not that bad and for the preds smaller ? dosent matter if they got it right on film then we wont notice at all.
Stop this madness!..................madness?......this is AVPGALAXY!!
Sorry i get carried away, anyway yes i agree i want the trailer to be good but not to show too much.
It would be constructive criticism if there was any construction going on. Nobody working on the movie is here (I think) so it's just premature criticism.
And why is nobody talking about how good the faces are?
Quote from: Alienseseses on Jan 17, 2010, 11:54:38 PM
It would be constructive criticism if there was any construction going on. Nobody working on the movie is here (I think) so it's just premature criticism.
And why is nobody talking about how good the faces are?
::) (set pics set pics)
Quote from: dallevalle on Jan 17, 2010, 11:48:16 PM
sil dont make fun of the way i spell
If you're going to be rude to someone, like you were to me, at least have the courtesy to spell it properly.
Quoteand it was not that bad and for the preds smaller ? dosent matter if they got it right on film then we wont notice at all.
If this was an AvP movie and we found out the Predators were 6'10",
everyone would start bitching. Maybe,
maybe, a handful of people would give it the benefit of the doubt, but most everyone else would be chucking a fit.
Quote from: SiL on Jan 18, 2010, 12:00:59 AM
Quote from: dallevalle on Jan 17, 2010, 11:48:16 PM
sil dont make fun of the way i spell
If you're going to be rude to someone, like you were to me, at least have the courtesy to spell it properly.
ya sorry i was rude (sorry).
Quoteand it was not that bad and for the preds smaller ? dosent matter if they got it right on film then we wont notice at all.
If this was an AvP movie and we found out the Predators were 6'10", everyone would start bitching. Maybe, maybe, a handful of people would give it the benefit of the doubt, but most everyone else would be chucking a fit.
and again it would be all about the way it was handled on camara ( but in avp case we got the taller people BUT the crappy design) so with predators smaller people YES, but if its handled correct then we wont notice on screen.
Quote from: dallevalle on Jan 17, 2010, 11:55:35 PM
Quote from: Alienseseses on Jan 17, 2010, 11:54:38 PM
It would be constructive criticism if there was any construction going on. Nobody working on the movie is here (I think) so it's just premature criticism.
And why is nobody talking about how good the faces are?
::) (set pics set pics)
Set pics taken from a cameraphone in terrible lighting. That's not a benchmark. And it certainly isn't constructive.
Quote from: Alienseseses on Jan 18, 2010, 12:18:49 AM
Quote from: dallevalle on Jan 17, 2010, 11:55:35 PM
Quote from: Alienseseses on Jan 17, 2010, 11:54:38 PM
It would be constructive criticism if there was any construction going on. Nobody working on the movie is here (I think) so it's just premature criticism.
And why is nobody talking about how good the faces are?
::) (set pics set pics)
Set pics taken from a cameraphone in terrible lighting. That's not a benchmark. And it certainly isn't constructive.
I'll constructive your benchmark...
So much god damn arguing on here... Not a whole load of logic either... Ah the internet...
this is my concept art of how i thought BSP should have looked...
(https://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi374.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Foo183%2FJAROSHULK28%2FP1170853.jpg&hash=2ed0223b1e367188ddacfd9c71cd3c8ae73a5490)
Quote from: Doomofman on Jan 18, 2010, 12:22:22 AM
Quote from: Alienseseses on Jan 18, 2010, 12:18:49 AM
Quote from: dallevalle on Jan 17, 2010, 11:55:35 PM
Quote from: Alienseseses on Jan 17, 2010, 11:54:38 PM
It would be constructive criticism if there was any construction going on. Nobody working on the movie is here (I think) so it's just premature criticism.
And why is nobody talking about how good the faces are?
::) (set pics set pics)
Set pics taken from a cameraphone in terrible lighting. That's not a benchmark. And it certainly isn't constructive.
I'll constructive your benchmark...
So much god damn arguing on here... Not a whole load of logic either... Ah the internet...
This is just normal banter that happens when a new movie comes out. Same thing happened when AvP R was being made.
Just part of the life of a messageboard I guess. I find a lot of it funny.
On topic Question: Does anyone else think those are skinning's they're using as armor? It looks like flesh.
Quote from: echobbase79 on Jan 18, 2010, 12:33:58 AM
This is just normal banter that happens when a new comes out. Same thing happened when AvP R was being made.
Just part of the life of a messageboard I guess. I find a lot of it funny.
^ exactly.
Quote from: Requiem28 on Jan 18, 2010, 12:32:43 AM
this is my concept art of how i thought BSP should have looked...
(https://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi374.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Foo183%2FJAROSHULK28%2FP1170853.jpg&hash=2ed0223b1e367188ddacfd9c71cd3c8ae73a5490)
I really like that design. It looks different without being ridiculous.
Several things:
1) Overall, I am getting a better feeling about this film.
2) The Super Predators look better than I expected (they look like normal Predators...which is good.). I am not a big fan of the masks though, but I am not really complaining.
3) Is Walt Groggins (Stans) trying to be seen in every pic?
4) The logo looks awesome and so does the set.
Really I think this may turn out better than I expected.
Quote from: SiL on Jan 17, 2010, 09:47:06 PM
Quote from: Rahul on Jan 17, 2010, 07:49:42 PM
Not a big diff..just abt 3 inches!!
Kevin Peter Hall was 7'2" without the suit. Whyte was one inch shorter.
Add the height the suit gives in the head and feet and you're tiptoing closer to seven and a half feet tall.
6'10" is way, way off.
Well said, they're going to be at least 8 inches shorter, a big difference.
Quote from: Haggar on Jan 18, 2010, 01:21:01 AM
Quote from: SiL on Jan 17, 2010, 09:47:06 PM
Quote from: Rahul on Jan 17, 2010, 07:49:42 PM
Not a big diff..just abt 3 inches!!
Kevin Peter Hall was 7'2" without the suit. Whyte was one inch shorter.
Add the height the suit gives in the head and feet and you're tiptoing closer to seven and a half feet tall.
6'10" is way, way off.
Well said, they're going to be at least 8 inches shorter, a big difference.
Maybe you can pretend that they are kids/teens preds.
That would explain why they are smaller and why those 3 preds had so much trouble to kill just a few humans even with those dogs/falcons helping , maybe they are training, starting to hunt using several advantages( its their planet, they have those alien creatures to help them) so that after some time they can hunt humans in earth on their own like the preds in Predator 1 and 2.
From an "industry insider": http://www.rottentomatoes.com/vine/showthread.php?t=754023 (http://www.rottentomatoes.com/vine/showthread.php?t=754023)
"It has come to my attention that over the course of the last 36 hours some images have leaked from our set...
Quote from: Keith on Jan 18, 2010, 02:34:24 AM
From an "industry insider": http://www.rottentomatoes.com/vine/showthread.php?t=754023 (http://www.rottentomatoes.com/vine/showthread.php?t=754023)
"It has come to my attention that over the course of the last 36 hours some images have leaked from our set...
:o RUN everybody run!
Quote from: Keith on Jan 18, 2010, 02:34:24 AM
From an "industry insider": http://www.rottentomatoes.com/vine/showthread.php?t=754023 (http://www.rottentomatoes.com/vine/showthread.php?t=754023)
"It has come to my attention that over the course of the last 36 hours some images have leaked from our set...
Hey, it says they're over seven feet tall.
This guy is right on the money man. People around here are way too quick to judge.
Quote from: Hybrid PM on Jan 18, 2010, 02:50:01 AM
This guy is right on the money man. People around here are way too quick to judge.
so true but thats what you get from people hidding behind the screen ^^
Good. I'm glad this has been put to rest. :)
Quote from: echobbase79 on Jan 18, 2010, 02:54:27 AM
Good. I'm glad this has been put to rest. :)
ya it was good they came and told us about it all but just wait when people tomorrow gets on, then its gonna be like this... ( they cant talk to us like that we got our own opinion UH UH UH) xD wait and see there will be bitching like always.
he is right, it's too soon to bitch about, without official pics, etc.
We dont even know if the costumes were finished...with all the props
QuoteI can not and will not go into great detail but I will say that fans of the design done by Stan Winston so many years ago have a lot to look forward to. There is going to be as little cgi as possible because nearly every single aspect of ths production is a back to basics approach. Nimrod is laying everything he has as a filmmaker on the line to ensure that he delivers something not only faithful to the original but something that also strives to surpass it while still staying true to the spirit of what made Predator so effective and special in the first place.
nice :)
Sure hope it is the truth and it made me feel better, now I'm dying for the trailer!
Quote from: Nemmesyz on Jan 18, 2010, 03:07:19 AM
he is right, it's too soon to bitch about, without official pics, etc.
We dont even know if the costumes were finished...with all the props
QuoteI can not and will not go into great detail but I will say that fans of the design done by Stan Winston so many years ago have a lot to look forward to. There is going to be as little cgi as possible because nearly every single aspect of ths production is a back to basics approach. Nimrod is laying everything he has as a filmmaker on the line to ensure that he delivers something not only faithful to the original but something that also strives to surpass it while still staying true to the spirit of what made Predator so effective and special in the first place.
nice :)
yep its gonna be so awesome they hired just the right guys for this :) !! this movie is gonna be kick ass !! and i knew it sins the begining.
Quote from: Mike The Wolf on Jan 18, 2010, 03:08:50 AM
Sure hope it is the truth and it made me feel better, now I'm dying for the trailer!
at least a teaser, just with some cool sounds, predator clicking and screams or wtv, aerial views of the jungle a catchy frase "No matter what planet, a prey is a prey", something like this but good ;D, and the image of the jungle passing, POV of the prey running
simple, cheap and no spoilers
See? 7ft or well over.
And the Negative Nancys are proven wrong once again.
Quote from: Pvt. Hicks on Jan 18, 2010, 03:20:34 AM
See? 7ft or well over.
And the Negative Nancys are proven wrong once again.
Amen !!!
Quote from: Pvt. Hicks on Jan 18, 2010, 03:20:34 AM
See? 7ft or well over.
And the Negative Nancys are proven wrong once again.
Who do you think you are? Calling me Nancy!!!
I kid, but amen to that aswell :)
I wonder if Fox will delay putting out official pics because of this leak? Or I bet they make us wait for awhile.
Quote from: Keith on Jan 18, 2010, 02:34:24 AM
From an "industry insider": http://www.rottentomatoes.com/vine/showthread.php?t=754023 (http://www.rottentomatoes.com/vine/showthread.php?t=754023)
"It has come to my attention that over the course of the last 36 hours some images have leaked from our set...
Not that I had many worries to begin with, I must say...that little article has totally abolished all my worries, past, present, and future.
I have faith. ;D
Quote from: Ultrapredator on Jan 18, 2010, 03:33:00 AM
Quote from: Keith on Jan 18, 2010, 02:34:24 AM
From an "industry insider": http://www.rottentomatoes.com/vine/showthread.php?t=754023 (http://www.rottentomatoes.com/vine/showthread.php?t=754023)
"It has come to my attention that over the course of the last 36 hours some images have leaked from our set...
Not that I had many worries to begin with, I must say...that little article has totally abolished all my worries, past, present, and future.
I have faith. ;D
good good ultrapredator its always good to have fait specialy when its about these kind of movies ( yup IT WILL ROCK !!!) ^^
Troublemaker is the real deal people..... Even bigger than 7 feet!
Quote from: Hybrid PM on Jan 18, 2010, 03:41:26 AM
Troublemaker is the real deal people..... Even bigger than 7 feet!
at least that should shut up people ! but im pretty sure they will find something els to trash talk about. :/
Quote from: dallevalle on Jan 18, 2010, 03:42:27 AM
Quote from: Hybrid PM on Jan 18, 2010, 03:41:26 AM
Troublemaker is the real deal people..... Even bigger than 7 feet!
at least that should shut up people ! but im pretty sure they will find something els to trash talk about. :/
Of course. I'm sure some people might not be so gung ho to believe this person. I mean look at the AvP R situation with the Strauses. Probably not the best example but that's all I can think of at the moment.
But I don't believe there's a reason to lie about a person being 7ft tall in this case. I believe him.
Quote from: Nemmesyz on Jan 18, 2010, 03:19:01 AM
at least a teaser, just with some cool sounds, predator clicking and screams or wtv, aerial views of the jungle a catchy frase "No matter what planet, a prey is a prey", something like this but good ;D, and the image of the jungle passing, POV of the prey running
simple, cheap and no spoilers
I would like the first lines from the script, which I believe goes, "The jungle creed says the strongest feed..." to be a voice over in the trailer showing some clips.
Friends....i didn't know it was possible but i just got a whole lot more excited about this film!
As for the "well over 7ft" not to create anymore arguments, but isn't Derek Mears 6'5? He is a Predator right?
Quote from: Maxwell on Jan 18, 2010, 03:45:24 AM
Friends....i didn't know it was possible but i just got a whole lot more excited about this film!
As for the "well over 7ft" not to create anymore arguments, but isn't Derek Mears 6'5? He is a Predator right?
glad your excited about it iv been excited sins they where making it :) this is gonna be good ! :)
I'm I the only one that thinks that guy isn't legit?
lol. What makes you say that?
Quote from: Maxwell on Jan 18, 2010, 03:45:24 AM
Friends....i didn't know it was possible but i just got a whole lot more excited about this film!
As for the "well over 7ft" not to create anymore arguments, but isn't Derek Mears 6'5? He is a Predator right?
I think our "industry insider" friend means to imply that they will make the Predators appear 7' or talller through camera techniques, or having them stand on boxes or whatever, not that the actors themselves are 7' tall.
Quote from: Keith on Jan 18, 2010, 04:02:03 AM
Quote from: Maxwell on Jan 18, 2010, 03:45:24 AM
Friends....i didn't know it was possible but i just got a whole lot more excited about this film!
As for the "well over 7ft" not to create anymore arguments, but isn't Derek Mears 6'5? He is a Predator right?
I think our "industry insider" friend means to imply that they will make the Predators appear 7' or talller through camera techniques, or having them stand on boxes or whatever, not that the actors themselves are 7' tall.
Oh they are for SURE going to have to use camera techniques. Goddamn. I met Derek and he was only a bit taller(but of course wayyy more muscular).
Quote from: Keith on Jan 18, 2010, 04:02:03 AM
Quote from: Maxwell on Jan 18, 2010, 03:45:24 AM
Friends....i didn't know it was possible but i just got a whole lot more excited about this film!
As for the "well over 7ft" not to create anymore arguments, but isn't Derek Mears 6'5? He is a Predator right?
I think our "industry insider" friend means to imply that they will make the Predators appear 7' or talller through camera techniques, or having them stand on boxes or whatever, not that the actors themselves are 7' tall.
I'm quite surprised people complained about the size issue in the first place. I knew from the start that they would probably use camera special effects to make the Predators taller.
Quote from: Doomofman on Jan 18, 2010, 03:53:17 AM
I'm I the only one that thinks that guy isn't legit?
The thing he said that gave him the most credibility with me was the stuff about "certain actors appearing drugged or under the influence in certain shots". That just seemed too "inside" of a comment to make for any normal fan.
And there is one leaked picture where one of the actors looks a bit "goofy".
I can't prove the guy's legit. Take it for what it's worth.
Eh... I'm not going to totally bash the design, but, as a designer, i'm let down by this.
The reason the AVP predators looked short and fat, and this was in the ADI commentary on Requiem, is that they couldn't have their 7 foot actor in two places at the same time. they had to use regular stuntmen then, they primarily used Ian for the hero predator. Requiem had a better predator design, but simply, that predator was a clean up guy! and lbh, the clean up guy Wolf looks like he could kick these three preds around like they were rag dolls! I'd prefer Winston's work than this crap. I pray for the health of the design being put into these guys hands. I'd prefer someone with history in working with a Predator.
Quote from: Keith on Jan 18, 2010, 04:23:22 AM
Quote from: Doomofman on Jan 18, 2010, 03:53:17 AM
I'm I the only one that thinks that guy isn't legit?
The thing he said that gave him the most credibility with me was the stuff about "certain actors appearing drugged or under the influence in certain shots". That just seemed too "inside" of a comment to make for any normal fan.
And there is one leaked picture where one of the actors looks a bit "goofy".
I can't prove the guy's legit. Take it for what it's worth.
Ok, I will be made fun of but which actor is suppose to look drugged from the pics, I guess I'm missing it
Brody looked a little goofy but I think that is from all the working out he has done...he probably eats 8 live chickens a day and benches 300lbs every five minutes. :D
I was thinking he was still in his "role" face
Nice. :]
I'm digging that the preds have that "dusty tribal" feel to them. Though from what I could make out of the mask, I didn't find them to be all that interesting. Though shot in good light, with the post-production and a nice close up it will end up looking better I think. Pred face looks pretty good from what I can tell, but I think the eyes are some of the most important features so we'll see how they do there. Didn't really notice a "BSP" in pics but the predator pic (with the 3 of them) the pred on the far left looks like his mask might be pretty interesting. I'm also liking the "camp" with all the hides and stuff. Looks pretty ghetto and alien.
Woke up and read the RT article from the insider; Preds are over 7foot, some even bigger!
I really hope this film is great, both critically and financially.
mmm, article almost sounds too legit. If what the guy says is true then it makes me a little more comfortable.
Doesn't change the fact that the pictures are still crap. Like how come we get a good shot of the regular pred and not the SP.
I still do not get what could make these predators stand out from the regular predators to the casual viewer, there's nothing instantly obvious that these guys are anything different. Which i thought was the whole point of the story (although i have not read the script)
Time will tell.
The pics were taken from a camera phone
Quote from: Mystic Ninja on Jan 18, 2010, 08:50:35 AM
The pics were taken from a camera phone
I know , when i said crap, i meant what was in them, not the quality. Plus it only seems to be the dodgy predators that have a bad photo, the rest (normal pred) are ok.
Fair enough dude.
The cast look like a bunch of rednecks
The way he worded that article when he mentioned the Predators heights seemed to mean there was quite a few.
20th Century Fox have ordered me to remove all the set pictures. I figured it would happen.
It was just a matter of time I suppose. :(
Well we all got a good eyeballin'.
Most people also probably saved them do it's not a big problem. :)
Fox give us official pics!!! :o NOWWWW!
Some are still up on Ain't it Cool:
http://www.aintitcool.com/node/43662
its funny how they have never made an issue of the leaked script. May be its irrelvant now due to changes?
Did the script make it to the general news sites? Am not surprised. That actor'll be in troubbble.
Quote from: genocyber on Jan 18, 2010, 12:28:03 PM
The cast look like a bunch of rednecks
not really....
they like fine
I don't think any pictures showed the 'super predator'. I think they're all normal.
Yep, but in the script there is only one normal Pred. Rest of them are BSP (excluding awful alternative ending), unless script has changed.
Quote from: Darkness on Jan 18, 2010, 01:20:35 PM
20th Century Fox have ordered me to remove all the set pictures. I figured it would happen.
"Ordered" you?
What happens if you tell them no?
Well i'd imagine some kind of lawsuit.
Well i think the designs look rubbish :
so much for keeping true to Stan's design - there's not even any dreadlocks!
:-D
EDIT: Mod edit. If Darkness had to remove the pics, I think they should stay down.
Quote from: Dachande on Jan 18, 2010, 05:12:58 PM
Well I'd imagine some kind of lawsuit.
Or a 20th Century Fox law stick shoved right up the ass!
Quote from: Dachande on Jan 18, 2010, 05:12:58 PM
Well i'd imagine some kind of lawsuit.
C&D I imagine followed by court talk. We were asked to remove that old AvPR Alien stunt picture as well - Back in the day, I mean.
Well, of course i'm really thankfull that the actor posted the pics online, but that was also really, really f**king stupid.
He broke his contract, cameras of all sorts were strictly forbidden and then he posts the pics online on a website, pics that are highly confident.
Yeah, i would say the guy is in deep trouble.
Quote from: wolfie138 on Jan 18, 2010, 05:33:59 PM
Well i think the designs look rubbish :
so much for keeping true to Stan's design - there's not even any dreadlocks!
:-D
EDIT: Mod edit. If Darkness had to remove the pics, I think they should stay down.
there clearly is but whatever
I think that Taktarov is responsible for those pictures.
Quote from: Master on Jan 18, 2010, 06:03:08 PM
I think that Taktarov is responsible for those pictures.
I think you are right, I remember that someone posted here that Taktarov taked the pictures with his cellphone.
It's right back at the start of the thread.
Why is the gallery still down?
Just wanted to look at some Predator behind the scenes stills but the gallery is still down, for several days now.
Just been on the gallery now...
Yeah, it works just fine. I had problem with it on Saturday but now it`s ok.
yeps works fine for me 2 ^^
Quote from: Doomofman on Jan 18, 2010, 05:57:47 PM
Quote from: wolfie138 on Jan 18, 2010, 05:33:59 PM
Well i think the designs look rubbish :
so much for keeping true to Stan's design - there's not even any dreadlocks!
:-D
EDIT: Mod edit. If Darkness had to remove the pics, I think they should stay down.
there clearly is but whatever
:-|
right over your head
Quote from: Corporal Hicks on Jan 18, 2010, 06:35:50 PM
Just been on the gallery now...
Error 404 - Not Found ???
Working fine for me.
Working for me too... Might wanna delete your cache... Or try Ctrl + F5, some browsers will do a full refresh of the page then... Don't think Chrome does though...
Finally, Foxed... Took them long enough.
can't pass judgement on the pics cause they are taken out of context. (behind the scenes)
but i kind of get a feel of Predator 2 by looking at them, and that isn't a bad thing there was way more death in that one than the first.
RR was smiling at the camera, why should Fox give a toss if they're leaked?
Quote from: War Wager on Jan 18, 2010, 07:50:53 PM
RR was smiling at the camera, why should Fox give a toss if they're leaked?
Because they were never meant to be released to the public. Those were personal pics for one of the actors, not meant for promotion.
Plus they give out the set and creatures, which weren't meant to be seen at this point in time.
Quote from: Sabres21768 on Jan 18, 2010, 05:04:03 PM
Quote from: Darkness on Jan 18, 2010, 01:20:35 PM
20th Century Fox have ordered me to remove all the set pictures. I figured it would happen.
"Ordered" you?
What happens if you tell them no?
This site seems to have alot of good connections.
Not a good idea.
What could happen to this guy?
I remember when someone leaked some production artwork from AvP R the person lost their job.
Rumor has it that they are going to omit him from the film.
What do you mean with 'omit'?
Cut him out of the picture? That won't happen.
Cut out who, the russian bear of a man?
Will be pretty harsh
They couldn't omit him from the movie without reshooting half of it... Nonsense rumour
I was joking.
It's interesting that none of the other sites have been asked to take down the pics...
Part of his salary may be taken away from him.
Quote from: Master on Jan 18, 2010, 08:15:22 PM
Part of his salary may be taken away from him.
That would be my guess.
Quote from: Johnny Handsome on Jan 18, 2010, 08:18:41 PM
Quote from: Master on Jan 18, 2010, 08:15:22 PM
Part of his salary may be taken away from him.
That would be my guess.
Yeah, in place of legal action.
Or maybe just a slap on the wrist? "Oh, the guys a foreigner, he probably didn't understand anything we said about no cameras, let's just let him off easy."
Quote from: Pvt. Hicks on Jan 18, 2010, 08:19:57 PM
Quote from: Johnny Handsome on Jan 18, 2010, 08:18:41 PM
Quote from: Master on Jan 18, 2010, 08:15:22 PM
Part of his salary may be taken away from him.
That would be my guess.
Yeah, in place of legal action.
Or maybe just a slap on the wrist? "Oh, the guys a foreigner, he probably didn't understand anything we said about no cameras, let's just let him off easy."
I doubt he'll get a slap on the wrist... He's been in enough movies at this stage to know...
This is no excuse by any means but I bet he was drunk when he did this. How can you be that stupid? Especially, posting a pic with the producer in there.
Right. I guess some Fox execs will just shoot him with a dart, because he's just so big, and then proceed to beat him senselessly in the studio backlot.
Quote from: Pvt. Hicks on Jan 18, 2010, 08:19:57 PM
Quote from: Johnny Handsome on Jan 18, 2010, 08:18:41 PM
Quote from: Master on Jan 18, 2010, 08:15:22 PM
Part of his salary may be taken away from him.
That would be my guess.
Yeah, in place of legal action.
Or maybe just a slap on the wrist? "Oh, the guys a foreigner, he probably didn't understand anything we said about no cameras, let's just let him off easy."
Don't think so, the guy had to sign a contract.
Plus FOX will probably sue his ass just so others see that such things aren't tolerated.
It confirmed that he posted them in net himself or some other person did it with his pictures?
Quote from: Pvt. Hicks on Jan 18, 2010, 08:22:56 PM
Right. I guess some Fox execs will just shoot him with a dart, because he's just so big, and then proceed to beat him senselessly in the studio backlot.
Tom Rothman will put him in the hurt locker for this. ;)
Quote from: Master on Jan 18, 2010, 08:24:25 PM
It confirmed that he posted them in net himself or some other person did it with his pictures?
He posted the pics on his official 'Russian Facebook' page.
Poor stupid bastard. Fox will grind his balls :-X
They'll probably ship that grizzly back to whence he came.
To the ZOO?
Quote from: Master on Jan 18, 2010, 08:28:07 PM
Poor stupid bastard. Fox will grind his balls :-X
To be true, whatever FOX will do to him is justified.
I would be pissed too if he would just shit on my contracts and agreements.
oh leave him alone done is done screw that we all make mistakes for heavens sake dont make such a big deal out of it.
Quote from: Mystic Ninja on Jan 18, 2010, 03:21:02 PM
its funny how they have never made an issue of the leaked script. May be its irrelvant now due to changes?
Yeah, that's a puzzler. Possibly because nobody outside of this community knows about it. I often found that strange.
Quote from: Johnny Handsome on Jan 18, 2010, 05:56:17 PM
Well, of course i'm really thankfull that the actor posted the pics online, but that was also really, really f**king stupid.
He broke his contract, cameras of all sorts were strictly forbidden and then he posts the pics online on a website, pics that are highly confident.
Yeah, i would say the guy is in deep trouble.
He probably didn't expect the images to leak out if he posted it on his private Facebook page. Or he didn't realise what he was doing was wrong.
Quote from: Johnny Handsome on Jan 18, 2010, 07:13:45 PM
Quote from: Corporal Hicks on Jan 18, 2010, 06:35:50 PM
Just been on the gallery now...
Error 404 - Not Found ???
Strange, you're accessing this link: http://www.avpgalaxy.net/gallery/ Working fine for me.
Quote from: Doomofman on Jan 18, 2010, 08:14:32 PM
It's interesting that none of the other sites have been asked to take down the pics...
I'm guessing that's because the pictures originated from here and a few big movie sites are linking to this topic.
They were wanting to keep things tight lipped too. The set reports done by various sites can't even speak a word about what they saw.
QuoteI think it had the desired effect.
Of course it had ;) Believe me we are greatfull!
Works fine with the link Darkness, but if i go the the Predator page and want to access the gallery from there it always says 'error'.
Strange, but hey, at least it works this way. Thx.
Oh, yeah, I see the problem.
Quote from: Darkness on Jan 18, 2010, 08:32:17 PM
Or he didn't realise what he was doing was wrong.
He would've signed an NDA before starting.
I'm working in a robotic investigation department and I had to sign a bunch of privacy agreements, so he sure must had done the same
I wonder with all the negative reaction floating around if fox might now issue a couple of photo's of better quality. Also should'nt the website be up and running soon?
Tis strange about the script though, i said that at the time.
The Preds looked pretty good. But they didn't seem as tall as Kevin Peter Hall. What a shame that he is no longer with us. His presence alone, I believe, would have made the avp movies better, and given more hype for Predators, not that Im dissing Predators, Im saving all judgement for the first trailer and movie, but I have a good feeling about it, hopefully
What negative reaction? Positive reaction outweighs it.
Quote from: jordan on Jan 18, 2010, 09:51:13 PM
What negative reaction? Positive reaction outweighs it.
There are some boneheads who think what they saw is exactly how it is going to map out onscreen.
I believe that the move will play out well :)
Quote from: echobbase79 on Jan 18, 2010, 07:58:06 PM
What could happen to this guy?
I remember when someone leaked some production artwork from AvP R the person lost their job.
and that guy stole the alien prop.
Quote from: jordan on Jan 18, 2010, 09:51:13 PM
What negative reaction? Positive reaction outweighs it.
Well you've got the poll, at least 50% of this thread, and a half page explanation on how the predators will look better on screen from an insider. So yeah.
I'd say that's negative.
I don't understand why there are so many people gripping about this film. This film is going to take the place of predator 2. SO when watching this movie you have to forget everything you seen from pred 2 and the avp films. SO this movie is like a redo of predator 2 which that movie was not very good at all. I know there are going to be some people out there that really liked it. But come on it didn't even make the budget back when it was out at theaters. That's why there was never a predator 3 ever made the stuido figured it played out. Which i can understand why predator 2 didn't do so good which predator 1 had the special force's then predator 2 had cops big drop in fighting. Then he was in the city which means he had alot of people to choose from where in the jungle it's pretty limited. Not to mention that arnold was almost killed by the predator in the first one then we have danny glover which he is no where near as tough as arnold and he killed a predator. so that made the movie play down real low. Now robert is supposed to be fixing that problem with this movie. Which i read where he said that his movie is going to be a direct sequel from the first predator and have nothing to do with predator 2 or the avp so it's going to make it that those movie's where never made.
Quote from: Pvt. Hicks on Jan 18, 2010, 09:53:11 PM
Quote from: jordan on Jan 18, 2010, 09:51:13 PM
What negative reaction? Positive reaction outweighs it.
There are some boneheads who think what they saw is exactly how it is going to map out onscreen.
Yep thats right, everyone with a negative reaction to the photo's thinks that the predators will look EXACTLY like the ones in the photograph, infact all us boneheads have made our choice not to go see the movie based on these few camera phone face book photos.
twat
Quote from: Pred fan 83 on Jan 18, 2010, 10:24:56 PM
I don't understand why there are so many people gripping about this film. This film is going to take the place of predator 2. SO when watching this movie you have to forget everything you seen from pred 2 and the avp films. SO this movie is like a redo of predator 2 which that movie was not very good at all. I know there are going to be some people out there that really liked it. But come on it didn't even make the budget back when it was out at theaters. That's why there was never a predator 3 ever made the stuido figured it played out. Which i can understand why predator 2 didn't do so good which predator 1 had the special force's then predator 2 had cops big drop in fighting. Then he was in the city which means he had alot of people to choose from where in the jungle it's pretty limited. Not to mention that arnold was almost killed by the predator in the first one then we have danny glover which he is no where near as tough as arnold and he killed a predator. so that made the movie play down real low. Now robert is supposed to be fixing that problem with this movie. Which i read where he said that his movie is going to be a direct sequel from the first predator and have nothing to do with predator 2 or the avp so it's going to make it that those movie's where never made.
Did it say in the script that predator 2 and avp and avp-r will be omitted? if so that is too bad, i really enjoyed predator 2, it brought a different element into the movie being in the city and with that company (maybe it was the yutani company) trying to get the predator. and avp was good and to a lesser extent avp-r. i got the feeling that this was a reboot of the predator series but it would still be after predator 2 and possibly avp and avp-r just a separate film all together.
Quote from: Pred fan 83 on Jan 18, 2010, 10:24:56 PM
I don't understand why there are so many people gripping about this film. This film is going to take the place of predator 2. SO when watching this movie you have to forget everything you seen from pred 2 and the avp films. SO this movie is like a redo of predator 2 which that movie was not very good at all. I know there are going to be some people out there that really liked it. But come on it didn't even make the budget back when it was out at theaters. That's why there was never a predator 3 ever made the stuido figured it played out. Which i can understand why predator 2 didn't do so good which predator 1 had the special force's then predator 2 had cops big drop in fighting. Then he was in the city which means he had alot of people to choose from where in the jungle it's pretty limited. Not to mention that arnold was almost killed by the predator in the first one then we have danny glover which he is no where near as tough as arnold and he killed a predator. so that made the movie play down real low. Now robert is supposed to be fixing that problem with this movie. Which i read where he said that his movie is going to be a direct sequel from the first predator and have nothing to do with predator 2 or the avp so it's going to make it that those movie's where never made.
I don't think the new film so much "ignores" Pred 2, it's more like a mid-quel, and simply precedes it. Pred 2 takes place after Predators to my understanding. While I respect your opinion, I have to disagree with you on Predator 2. Predator 2 was great, and added amazing elements while still leaving mystery to the Predator culture and species. The inside of the ship alone at the end was so perfect to what I feel a Pred ship would look like. AVPs ships disappointed me incredibly in comparison. None of the organic, earthly tones were present at all in the design. They looked like typical spaceships with Predator symbols slapped onto them. The inside of the Pred 2 ship felt ceremonial, ancient, new, and atmospheric. With all the steam and eerie, warm lighting, it felt like a whole different, alien environment, just in the ship alone! That's pretty damn impressive to me to pull something like that off. That team totally nailed making a new, unique, and true Predator design, of course thanks to Mark Crash McCreery and Stan the Man Winston.
Pred 2's scenario, being in an "Urban Jungle" as the phrase goes was perfect to change it up. Overall, it all comes together very well.
Plus, Aliens versus Predator (the amazing original comic story that should have been the movie) would not exist if Predator 2 was never made.
Predator 2 wasn't just good, it was great, and a worthy sequel. ;D
(Images removed at the request of The People Who Ruin The Franchises You Love)
Kidding. (Well AVP and 2...maybe I'm not joking.)
It's good to see the classic looking Pred. Hell, I'd be satisfied with the design from Pred. 2
Quote from: ColonelDoctorPaulChurch on Jan 18, 2010, 11:26:29 PM
Quote from: Pred fan 83 on Jan 18, 2010, 10:24:56 PM
I don't understand why there are so many people gripping about this film. This film is going to take the place of predator 2. SO when watching this movie you have to forget everything you seen from pred 2 and the avp films. SO this movie is like a redo of predator 2 which that movie was not very good at all. I know there are going to be some people out there that really liked it. But come on it didn't even make the budget back when it was out at theaters. That's why there was never a predator 3 ever made the stuido figured it played out. Which i can understand why predator 2 didn't do so good which predator 1 had the special force's then predator 2 had cops big drop in fighting. Then he was in the city which means he had alot of people to choose from where in the jungle it's pretty limited. Not to mention that arnold was almost killed by the predator in the first one then we have danny glover which he is no where near as tough as arnold and he killed a predator. so that made the movie play down real low. Now robert is supposed to be fixing that problem with this movie. Which i read where he said that his movie is going to be a direct sequel from the first predator and have nothing to do with predator 2 or the avp so it's going to make it that those movie's where never made.
I don't think the new film so much "ignores" Pred 2, it's more like a mid-quel, and simply precedes it. Pred 2 takes place after Predators to my understanding. While I respect your opinion, I have to disagree with you on Predator 2. Predator 2 was great, and added amazing elements while still leaving mystery to the Predator culture and species. The inside of the ship alone at the end was so perfect to what I feel a Pred ship would look like. AVPs ships disappointed me incredibly in comparison. None of the organic, earthly tones were present at all in the design. They looked like typical spaceships with Predator symbols slapped onto them. The inside of the Pred 2 ship felt ceremonial, ancient, new, and atmospheric. With all the steam and eerie, warm lighting, it felt like a whole different, alien environment, just in the ship alone! That's pretty damn impressive to me to pull something like that off. That team totally nailed making a new, unique, and true Predator design, of course thanks to Mark Crash McCreery and Stan the Man Winston.
Pred 2's scenario, being in an "Urban Jungle" as the phrase goes was perfect to change it up. Overall, it all comes together very well.
Plus, Aliens versus Predator (the amazing original comic story that should have been the movie) would not exist if Predator 2 was never made.
Predator 2 wasn't just good, it was great, and a worthy sequel. ;D
agreed
And there they go. :-\
Fun while it lasted...
The designs are okay, seriously I don't know what's the matter with you people. At least we aren't getting some over the top bullsh*t.
Those preddies look old-school. Me like.
I like Predator 2 as well, and it will always be the true sequel to Predator. To me, Predators is Predator 3; unless the film somehow flat-out says Predator 2 didn't happen, I don't see a reason to ignore it. I don't care what RR says, if isn't on-screen it isn't canon.
Quote from: ColonelDoctorPaulChurch on Jan 18, 2010, 11:26:29 PM
Quote from: Pred fan 83 on Jan 18, 2010, 10:24:56 PM
I don't understand why there are so many people gripping about this film. This film is going to take the place of predator 2. SO when watching this movie you have to forget everything you seen from pred 2 and the avp films. SO this movie is like a redo of predator 2 which that movie was not very good at all. I know there are going to be some people out there that really liked it. But come on it didn't even make the budget back when it was out at theaters. That's why there was never a predator 3 ever made the stuido figured it played out. Which i can understand why predator 2 didn't do so good which predator 1 had the special force's then predator 2 had cops big drop in fighting. Then he was in the city which means he had alot of people to choose from where in the jungle it's pretty limited. Not to mention that arnold was almost killed by the predator in the first one then we have danny glover which he is no where near as tough as arnold and he killed a predator. so that made the movie play down real low. Now robert is supposed to be fixing that problem with this movie. Which i read where he said that his movie is going to be a direct sequel from the first predator and have nothing to do with predator 2 or the avp so it's going to make it that those movie's where never made.
I don't think the new film so much "ignores" Pred 2, it's more like a mid-quel, and simply precedes it. Pred 2 takes place after Predators to my understanding. While I respect your opinion, I have to disagree with you on Predator 2. Predator 2 was great, and added amazing elements while still leaving mystery to the Predator culture and species. The inside of the ship alone at the end was so perfect to what I feel a Pred ship would look like. AVPs ships disappointed me incredibly in comparison. None of the organic, earthly tones were present at all in the design. They looked like typical spaceships with Predator symbols slapped onto them. The inside of the Pred 2 ship felt ceremonial, ancient, new, and atmospheric. With all the steam and eerie, warm lighting, it felt like a whole different, alien environment, just in the ship alone! That's pretty damn impressive to me to pull something like that off. That team totally nailed making a new, unique, and true Predator design, of course thanks to Mark Crash McCreery and Stan the Man Winston.
Pred 2's scenario, being in an "Urban Jungle" as the phrase goes was perfect to change it up. Overall, it all comes together very well.
Plus, Aliens versus Predator (the amazing original comic story that should have been the movie) would not exist if Predator 2 was never made.
Predator 2 wasn't just good, it was great, and a worthy sequel. ;D
Wasn't the comic made before the movie was? I thought the skull was a nod to the comic?
You are correct, sir!
I think p2 was good design -wise, and the ship and elements ColonelDoctorPaulChurch described them... there's nothing to argue about it, you're just right IMO. Though I think acting was not good enough, and danny glover killing the pred wasn't that good (so I liked p1 more), but anyway: I think p2 wasn't bad.
But even though I liked p2, as I know, Predators are meant to be a direct sequel to p1. Correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't it a reboot of the franchise? And I remember something about it takes place 30 years after p1. I'm not sure. Again, please revise my statements if I'm wrong about predators, maybe I don't remember well.
The only problem I have with P2 is that I think it tries to do to much in one movie. I mean the movie is as action packed as any movie I've ever seen. But that's one of its problems I believe. I never really tries to take a breath in between scenes. The only part when it really chills out is when Danny Glover is taken hostage by Keye's butt boys.
Don't get me wrong I love P2, but it's a movie with a bad cocaine addiction. ;) It just doesn't know when to stop.
As for the pics of the new Preds. I like the look of the new Super Predator (thank god it's nothing like the script) but I gotta see better pics of them all to make a final decision.
Back on topic, please.
i think BSP is a pretty cool guy. eh pisses off fanboys and doesn't afraid of anything. :P
Quotepisses off fanboys
Maybe, but for me, not now. We'll see after the movie :)
Quoteand doesn't afraid of anything.
You never know... maybe he finds rabbits creepy. Or rather foxes! That would explain the dogs!!! ;D ;D
Quote from: Puks on Jan 19, 2010, 12:24:38 AM
The designs are okay, seriously I don't know what's the matter with you people. At least we aren't getting some over the top bullsh*t.
Those preddies look old-school. Me like.
;D
I can understand i like predator 2 alright. I was jsut saying that from what i have read in an interview of robert that this movie was supposed to be made instead of predator 2. But Fox didn't have the money for it and they said that it was just to big of a movie for the time so they had a new script wrote and that's the one with danny glover. But just from what i read this movie was going to do away with the avp's and predator 2. Which he stated that this will have nothing at all to do with predator 2. I think that's why the new preds look like they do trying to do away with what predator 2 made the predators look like andgo a whole new rout. But like i said that was just something i read so
I like em a lot as well. When I read the article from the director concerning the leaks, and saying that the Predators will look 10x better, I was totally sold. ;D
I just want to say this, and I don't care who agrees, but it's the truth.
You can all go back and forth about how great they look. You can go back and forth about how bad they look. When the movie is said and done. 50% on each side of the argument will change their minds. So, get over it.
Quote from: echobbase79 on Jan 19, 2010, 12:45:22 AM
Quote from: ColonelDoctorPaulChurch on Jan 18, 2010, 11:26:29 PM
Quote from: Pred fan 83 on Jan 18, 2010, 10:24:56 PM
I don't understand why there are so many people gripping about this film. This film is going to take the place of predator 2. SO when watching this movie you have to forget everything you seen from pred 2 and the avp films. SO this movie is like a redo of predator 2 which that movie was not very good at all. I know there are going to be some people out there that really liked it. But come on it didn't even make the budget back when it was out at theaters. That's why there was never a predator 3 ever made the stuido figured it played out. Which i can understand why predator 2 didn't do so good which predator 1 had the special force's then predator 2 had cops big drop in fighting. Then he was in the city which means he had alot of people to choose from where in the jungle it's pretty limited. Not to mention that arnold was almost killed by the predator in the first one then we have danny glover which he is no where near as tough as arnold and he killed a predator. so that made the movie play down real low. Now robert is supposed to be fixing that problem with this movie. Which i read where he said that his movie is going to be a direct sequel from the first predator and have nothing to do with predator 2 or the avp so it's going to make it that those movie's where never made.
I don't think the new film so much "ignores" Pred 2, it's more like a mid-quel, and simply precedes it. Pred 2 takes place after Predators to my understanding. While I respect your opinion, I have to disagree with you on Predator 2. Predator 2 was great, and added amazing elements while still leaving mystery to the Predator culture and species. The inside of the ship alone at the end was so perfect to what I feel a Pred ship would look like. AVPs ships disappointed me incredibly in comparison. None of the organic, earthly tones were present at all in the design. They looked like typical spaceships with Predator symbols slapped onto them. The inside of the Pred 2 ship felt ceremonial, ancient, new, and atmospheric. With all the steam and eerie, warm lighting, it felt like a whole different, alien environment, just in the ship alone! That's pretty damn impressive to me to pull something like that off. That team totally nailed making a new, unique, and true Predator design, of course thanks to Mark Crash McCreery and Stan the Man Winston.
Pred 2's scenario, being in an "Urban Jungle" as the phrase goes was perfect to change it up. Overall, it all comes together very well.
Plus, Aliens versus Predator (the amazing original comic story that should have been the movie) would not exist if Predator 2 was never made.
Predator 2 wasn't just good, it was great, and a worthy sequel. ;D
Wasn't the comic made before the movie was? I thought the skull was a nod to the comic?
I stand corrected. Busted out my 1st edition TPB of Aliens vs Predator and read the article. The comic idea was conceived in 1989 by Chris Warner during a Dark Horse Comics Project meeting, one year before Predator 2 came out. Quite an interesting story too of the whole licensing situation and the attempt to actually make it into a feature long, long before AVP came out. Glad you corrected me, better to know now then to think that was the case for who knows how many more years, hehe. =^)
Dang. I guess I should have saved those pics.
Quote from: mocafrost on Jan 19, 2010, 07:24:20 AM
Dang. I guess I should have saved those pics.
I'm sure someone did, they were up for like 2-3 days.
Is it possible that Fox leaked these photos on purpose to get an early indication of what people might think?
Also We have a photo of the original Pred with its mask off but non of the new Preds.
Quote from: ColonelDoctorPaulChurch on Jan 19, 2010, 06:16:02 AM
Quote from: echobbase79 on Jan 19, 2010, 12:45:22 AM
Quote from: ColonelDoctorPaulChurch on Jan 18, 2010, 11:26:29 PM
Quote from: Pred fan 83 on Jan 18, 2010, 10:24:56 PM
I don't understand why there are so many people gripping about this film. This film is going to take the place of predator 2. SO when watching this movie you have to forget everything you seen from pred 2 and the avp films. SO this movie is like a redo of predator 2 which that movie was not very good at all. I know there are going to be some people out there that really liked it. But come on it didn't even make the budget back when it was out at theaters. That's why there was never a predator 3 ever made the stuido figured it played out. Which i can understand why predator 2 didn't do so good which predator 1 had the special force's then predator 2 had cops big drop in fighting. Then he was in the city which means he had alot of people to choose from where in the jungle it's pretty limited. Not to mention that arnold was almost killed by the predator in the first one then we have danny glover which he is no where near as tough as arnold and he killed a predator. so that made the movie play down real low. Now robert is supposed to be fixing that problem with this movie. Which i read where he said that his movie is going to be a direct sequel from the first predator and have nothing to do with predator 2 or the avp so it's going to make it that those movie's where never made.
I don't think the new film so much "ignores" Pred 2, it's more like a mid-quel, and simply precedes it. Pred 2 takes place after Predators to my understanding. While I respect your opinion, I have to disagree with you on Predator 2. Predator 2 was great, and added amazing elements while still leaving mystery to the Predator culture and species. The inside of the ship alone at the end was so perfect to what I feel a Pred ship would look like. AVPs ships disappointed me incredibly in comparison. None of the organic, earthly tones were present at all in the design. They looked like typical spaceships with Predator symbols slapped onto them. The inside of the Pred 2 ship felt ceremonial, ancient, new, and atmospheric. With all the steam and eerie, warm lighting, it felt like a whole different, alien environment, just in the ship alone! That's pretty damn impressive to me to pull something like that off. That team totally nailed making a new, unique, and true Predator design, of course thanks to Mark Crash McCreery and Stan the Man Winston.
Pred 2's scenario, being in an "Urban Jungle" as the phrase goes was perfect to change it up. Overall, it all comes together very well.
Plus, Aliens versus Predator (the amazing original comic story that should have been the movie) would not exist if Predator 2 was never made.
Predator 2 wasn't just good, it was great, and a worthy sequel. ;D
Wasn't the comic made before the movie was? I thought the skull was a nod to the comic?
I stand corrected. Busted out my 1st edition TPB of Aliens vs Predator and read the article. The comic idea was conceived in 1989 by Chris Warner during a Dark Horse Comics Project meeting, one year before Predator 2 came out. Quite an interesting story too of the whole licensing situation and the attempt to actually make it into a feature long, long before AVP came out. Glad you corrected me, better to know now then to think that was the case for who knows how many more years, hehe. =^)
Wait, why exactly would anyone think Predator 2 and the AVP movies are no longer part of continuity? Or why would anyone think Predators would be a prequel to Predator 2? Where does this arguement come from? Seems baseless. Is this a reference to: "In a recent MTV Blogs Interview, Rodriguez further confirms that his reboot is to be the direct sequel to the original, possibly ignoring Predator 2, Alien vs. Predator and Aliens vs Predator: Requiem, saying 'Maybe people will forget all the bad sequels and only think this one and the original exist'"? I think that's just what he hopes would happen, not set in stone. I doubt anything in Predators will contradict what we learned from Predator 2, AVP, and AVP:R.
It's just another sequel, as far as we know. Fans love to make things up in their head to pretend the movies they don't like are discounted as part of the series, and it's annoying everytime it happens. Not every movie in a series is going to be good, that's just how Hollywood works, deal with it. I like Predator 2, alot of people like Predator 2, and just cuz one guy hates it, doesn't mean Predators is a redo of Predator 2. I thought the AVP movies weren't very good, but some people out there actually like them, and it's kind of a big FU to be a dork and say "Your movies don't count anymore cuz of something I made up in my head that's based on my crazy opinion." Until Fox officially comes out and says "AVP1 & 2 are fan fiction", they did happen in the Alien/Predator film universe. Period. And even if that did happen, whos to say Predators will even be good or any better than the other sequels? Maybe it would be like Halloween H20 and Resurrection, that tried to say Parts 4-6 didn't happen, and then they made much worse movies with Busta Rhymes kicking Michael Myers' ass all over the place. "Those movies don't count, but our pieces of shit do."
If anyone saved the images to their computer, could they PM me and tell me, i'll give my email addy so someone could email them to me, sure they're not the best, but i want something to show my brother.
Quote from: Mystic Ninja on Jan 19, 2010, 07:48:46 AM
Is it possible that Fox leaked these photos on purpose to get an early indication of what people might think?
Also We have a photo of the original Pred with its mask off but non of the new Preds.
Seriously doubt it. If they came from a Facebook page then it's a huge blunder. I'm sure when you post photographs on that site, they become the property of Facebook and can be used against your will.
Quote from: DoomPredator on Jan 19, 2010, 08:35:58 AM
If anyone saved the images to their computer, could they PM me and tell me, i'll give my email addy so someone could email them to me, sure they're not the best, but i want something to show my brother.
Eh, I don't think so. Even if they did plan to release pictures, they wouldn't be of the quality we saw.
Quote from: Pred fan 83 on Jan 19, 2010, 03:05:48 AM
I can understand i like predator 2 alright. I was jsut saying that from what i have read in an interview of robert that this movie was supposed to be made instead of predator 2. But Fox didn't have the money for it and they said that it was just to big of a movie for the time so they had a new script wrote and that's the one with danny glover. But just from what i read this movie was going to do away with the avp's and predator 2. Which he stated that this will have nothing at all to do with predator 2. I think that's why the new preds look like they do trying to do away with what predator 2 made the predators look like andgo a whole new rout. But like i said that was just something i read so
Listen man, don`t believe to every thing that you are reading. Only material that counts is the one from films and I can`t possibly imagine the way to remove P2 from canon. Ignoring it? OK! Let them ignore it but it dosen`t matter really. And to conclude, Predators will have same in common (or even less) to P1 as P2 have.
Well i know for sure and i mean for sure is that this movie is going to be a direct sequel to P1. With that being said that would really leave no room for P2. I kbow i read that sum said that it would be a prequel to pred 2 but this movie happens quite sometime after predator 1. And they talk about the predators 1 in the new movie. Where they talk about dutch and when he fought the predator a little more indepth than what was said in predator 2. But that seems to me like it would do away with predator 2 I don't know But anyway i hopeing that this predator movie is going to be sweet.. I know the first predator made like 25 million which that's what it cost to make the film so it really didn't do so good in the theaters. it got alot bigger when it came out on vhs and tv then everyone got to see it. Now predator 2 it made like 19 or 22 million in theaters when it was showing and i think the production budget was like 25 million or so. I looked it up sometime ago in records and ticket sales.
Oh and another reason why it wont have nothing to do with the avp movies is they werent very good. That why robert rodriguez didn't want anyone from the avp movies in this movie.
Quote from: Puks on Jan 19, 2010, 12:24:38 AM
The designs are okay, seriously I don't know what's the matter with you people. At least we aren't getting some over the top bullsh*t.
Those preddies look old-school. Me like.
I agree. I'm sure they'll look awesome on screen fully geared up, the descriptions in the script were awful but they actually look really good here. I do know the script may have been changed, by the way.
Quote from: Pred fan 83 on Jan 19, 2010, 03:14:13 PM
Well i know for sure and i mean for sure is that this movie is going to be a direct sequel to P1. With that being said that would really leave no room for P2. I kbow i read that sum said that it would be a prequel to pred 2 but this movie happens quite sometime after predator 1. And they talk about the predators 1 in the new movie. Where they talk about dutch and when he fought the predator a little more indepth than what was said in predator 2. But that seems to me like it would do away with predator 2 I don't know But anyway i hopeing that this predator movie is going to be sweet.. I know the first predator made like 25 million which that's what it cost to make the film so it really didn't do so good in the theaters. it got alot bigger when it came out on vhs and tv then everyone got to see it. Now predator 2 it made like 19 or 22 million in theaters when it was showing and i think the production budget was like 25 million or so. I looked it up sometime ago in records and ticket sales.
Listen I have problem to explain it to you and I really don`t want to do it once again but`ll try. This film is 30 years after P1. P2 is 10 years after P1. Between P1 and Predators there is allot of place for second film and nothing can change it, especially not the fact that P2 is not mentioned.
Where does it say that the movie is set 30 years after the first one?
Where does it say that it is set in 1987?
And I meant 20 not 30. Therefore now a days.
QuoteWhere does it say that it is set in 1987?
Predator 2.
No Johny, I`m asking where it is stated that Predators are set in 1987? No where. So we can assume that it`s action is set 23 years after P1, in 2010. So P2 in 1997 could have easily happened, and I don`t know why this guy Pred Fan 83 is so keen to dis it after Rodriguez`s bull shit. And I say that there is hardly a possibility to remove P2 from canon and that Predators will be treated as P3 not only by our comunity but by most of the people who are going to see it.
LOL well hmmm seems i must have hit a nerve.... I was just saying what i found i mean the film would be better if it did take predator 2 out of the picture... predator 2 suck that's why it failed and a predator 3 was never made... now you can arguee with me on that all you want but that doesn't make predator 2 a success so deal with it... That's why in this movie the predators are different and not like predator 2 that's also why they capture people and take them to there world to hunt which also changes things from predator 2. So really if you want to like this movie go in thinking nothing about predator 2 or the avp films... Just from what you seen from predator 1. I mean why else does the script read like it does with what the predators look like to what they can do to there guns and attack dogs and birds not to mention why they have a regular predator strung up and all his armor ripped off... Because this movie is trying to change from what predator 2 had in it and make the whole predator franchise go in a new direction... Because the direction it was going failed so there re-makeing it... Oh and the fact that predator 2 or the avp movies are not mentioned means this movie has NOTHING to do with this film or anything to do with the predators or people... And if you wante to prove me wrong don't gip cause that's not going to work but instead do some serching and read the script and find something some where that tells me that i'm wrong then i will shut up...
i'm not trashing anything i have the movie predator 2 and i watch it.. but i think that the predator movie would do better in a different direction is all .... cause like i said it didn't make any money so there must be alot of people out there that thought the samething i did when i first watched predator 2 which is it wasn't as good as predator 1
Okkkkkkk. If you want proofs from the script then be my guest:
1. Action of the film starts in the city. P2 was in the city P1 wasn`t (call it a cameo if you want).
2. To kill one of new film characters the spear is used. Spear was used in P2 (and AvP, oh my!) not in P1.
3. Predators are using different vision modes what also was firstly introduced in P2.
4. Whole group of Preds was shown in P2, in P1 Anytime was hunting alone. To be honest Pussyface also hunted alone and first hunting group was shown in AvP (3 Preds just like in first AvP).
Prove me I`m wrong.
EDIT:
Try not to double post, edit your earlier message if you want to add something.
If you really want to know if P2 is popular then make a thread with such question. You`ll find out that people loves it. And the fact that it had poor incomes dosen`t change the fact that it is great film. BOX OFFICE =/= quality of film.
Yeah your right... But what i'm saying is what the predators do they don't just grab people form the city but from everywhere.. So nothing like pred 2 yes they use a spear but anyone that's a native use spears.. so not like p 2 and first hunting party was in avp but not like the script reads from robert's movie and they use different vision modes which yes was first put into predator 2 But come on the different vision modes are a must to make it sweet as hell and not to mention make the predator more deadly
yeah but no money means no more movies am i right
But tell me what do you think.. do you think this movie is going to be a success or a failer
Quote from: Pred fan 83 on Jan 19, 2010, 07:25:13 PM
But tell me what do you think.. do you think this movie is going to be a success or a failer
That's a hard question. There is so many way's this movie could be directed and shoot. I liked the script and if they polish it up and edit it some more it will sure be a blast to watch. But failure or success will me easier to guess ones we have a trailer to watch.
But my gut says, it will be a success. Otherwise it sucks to be Adrian Brody lol
Quote from: Davjo on Jan 19, 2010, 07:34:06 PM
Quote from: Pred fan 83 on Jan 19, 2010, 07:25:13 PM
But tell me what do you think.. do you think this movie is going to be a success or a failer
That's a hard question. There is so many way's this movie could be directed and shoot. I liked the script and if they polish it up and edit it some more it will sure be a blast to watch. But failure or success will me easier to guess ones we have a trailer to watch.
But my gut says, it will be a success. Otherwise it sucks to be Adrian Brody lol
Yeah i agree with you on that one..lol
I can`t really change your mind can I? You don`t like P2 fine, but It dosen`t matter. It is still great film ::)
And don`t double post.
NOOOOO!!!!!!! I MISSED IT!! GONE FROM THE COMPUTER AT THE WRONG TIME!
does ANYONE have the pictures saved? is there any possible way this predator fan can see the big event he's missed?!?! :-\
Quote from: TheEyesThatDissapeared on Jan 20, 2010, 01:34:08 AM
NOOOOO!!!!!!! I MISSED IT!! GONE FROM THE COMPUTER AT THE WRONG TIME!
does ANYONE have the pictures saved? is there any possible way this predator fan can see the big event he's missed?!?! :-\
http://screenrant.com/leaked-set-pictures-predators-ross-41754/
I'm saving the thumbs down image of Topher, just in case.
Quote from: ShadowPred on Jan 20, 2010, 01:35:58 AM
I'm saving the thumbs down image of Topher, just in case.
aah your so funny ::)
Not trying to be, not even in a sarcastic kind of way.
Quote from: ShadowPred on Jan 20, 2010, 01:45:14 AM
Not trying to be, not even in a sarcastic kind of way.
yeah, what's up with the token joe blow out fit?
THANX MAXWELL!!! YOUR FREAKIN AWESOME!
Quote from: TheEyesThatDissapeared on Jan 20, 2010, 01:49:35 AM
THANX MAXWELL!!! YOUR FREAKIN AWESOME!
Stating the obvious here but OK!
No, I'm kidding :) your welcome.
Fox Pulls PREDATORS Pics from Fansite:
http://iconsoffright.com/news/2010/01/fox_pulls_predators_pics_from.html (http://iconsoffright.com/news/2010/01/fox_pulls_predators_pics_from.html)
QuoteIf Fox had released these pics, I can guarantee they wouldn't have pulled them (and the quality sure would have been higher).
This kind of argument really stays with you.
why does that site make such a big deal out of it ? the asked to take the pics off end of story we all saved them to our pc´s anyway xD lol
Quote from: dallevalle on Jan 20, 2010, 04:21:16 AM
why does that site make such a big deal out of it ? the asked to take the pics off end of story we all saved them to our pc´s anyway xD lol
I didn't.........
However i did save the two new videos, take that SEGA!
Quote from: ShadowPred on Jan 20, 2010, 01:35:58 AM
I'm saving the thumbs down image of Topher, just in case.
I thought it was pretty funny :D
Quote from: Maxwell on Jan 20, 2010, 04:26:03 AM
Quote from: dallevalle on Jan 20, 2010, 04:21:16 AM
why does that site make such a big deal out of it ? the asked to take the pics off end of story we all saved them to our pc´s anyway xD lol
I didn't.........
However i did save the two new videos, take that SEGA!
Yeah I save almost everything I come across, I even rip some vids straight from youtube just in case they get taken off, like these did lol.
Quote from: Pred fan 83 on Jan 19, 2010, 07:08:06 PM
LOL well hmmm seems i must have hit a nerve.... I was just saying what i found i mean the film would be better if it did take predator 2 out of the picture... predator 2 suck that's why it failed and a predator 3 was never made... now you can arguee with me on that all you want but that doesn't make predator 2 a success so deal with it... That's why in this movie the predators are different and not like predator 2 that's also why they capture people and take them to there world to hunt which also changes things from predator 2. So really if you want to like this movie go in thinking nothing about predator 2 or the avp films... Just from what you seen from predator 1. I mean why else does the script read like it does with what the predators look like to what they can do to there guns and attack dogs and birds not to mention why they have a regular predator strung up and all his armor ripped off... Because this movie is trying to change from what predator 2 had in it and make the whole predator franchise go in a new direction... Because the direction it was going failed so there re-makeing it... Oh and the fact that predator 2 or the avp movies are not mentioned means this movie has NOTHING to do with this film or anything to do with the predators or people... And if you wante to prove me wrong don't gip cause that's not going to work but instead do some serching and read the script and find something some where that tells me that i'm wrong then i will shut up...
I enjoyed predator 2, i thought it was a good take on the predators hunting in the city. I think this movie is going to try and take a different direction, but i doubt they will throw anything out from predator 2. Hell if you think about it predator and predator 2 are 2 completley separate films the only links are the picture of Anna and Gary Busey saying the predator hunted 10 years ago.
Quote from: Keith on Jan 20, 2010, 02:27:08 AM
Fox Pulls PREDATORS Pics from Fansite:
http://iconsoffright.com/news/2010/01/fox_pulls_predators_pics_from.html (http://iconsoffright.com/news/2010/01/fox_pulls_predators_pics_from.html)
Heh, good article. Basically sums up how I feel when I'm asked to remove pictures.
Its kinda cool to be mentioned like that.. on the plus side.
In my email this morning it said there was a new topic, Official Poster. I can't find it and when I click on the link in my email it says error or missing? What's going on?
Quote from: Mike The Wolf on Jan 20, 2010, 01:45:23 PM
In my email this morning it said there was a new topic, Official Poster. I can't find it and when I click on the link in my email it says error or missing? What's going on?
it was a fake poster made by one of AvPG forum members. Consisted of Adrian Brodys head photoshoped infront of the 3 SP from the leaked photos. ::)
Quote from: Darkness on Jan 20, 2010, 07:27:30 AM
Quote from: Keith on Jan 20, 2010, 02:27:08 AM
Fox Pulls PREDATORS Pics from Fansite:
http://iconsoffright.com/news/2010/01/fox_pulls_predators_pics_from.html (http://iconsoffright.com/news/2010/01/fox_pulls_predators_pics_from.html)
Heh, good article. Basically sums up how I feel when I'm asked to remove pictures.
one of the posts under that article:
Lot's of the people at that AVP site had allready spent way to much time looking at and discussing those photos (more like obsesivly picking at these scraps for all it's worth) Im glad they asked the avp site to remove them because people should not have seen the YET and since the quality was so low nothing good could come from "fans" trashing them at first glance which I believe a large percent have been trashing this film since the get go because of the producer.. then the leaked script..(which was an early draft and has been tweeked) then they were unhappy about the SUper Predators and the casting.
I dont think this film deserves a verdict untill after we walk out of the theater having just watched the movie.. And certainly people should not dismiss a film before they see it or let Paul W.S ANderson Or AVP R continue to tarnish this franchise.. And the AVP Gamer crowd I can assure you even thse fan sites throw what weight they have around too to "the even more little people" Basicly i could care less that fox took the photos down.
Quote from: Mystic Ninja on Jan 20, 2010, 02:04:32 PM
Quote from: Mike The Wolf on Jan 20, 2010, 01:45:23 PM
In my email this morning it said there was a new topic, Official Poster. I can't find it and when I click on the link in my email it says error or missing? What's going on?
it was a fake poster made by one of AvPG forum members. Consisted of Adrian Brodys head photoshoped infront of the 3 SP from the leaked photos. ::)
Thanks for telling me, I was like Holy Crap a poster, then couldn't find it.
In regards to the Super Preds not wearing any netting, how does that explain the regular Predator not wearing any netting?
It had been stripped bare by the Super Preds.
Quote from: SiL on Jan 21, 2010, 01:05:22 AM
It had been stripped bare by the Super Preds.
Poor guy must feel pretty vulnerable and dis-honored.
Quote from: Darkness on Jan 20, 2010, 07:27:30 AM
Quote from: Keith on Jan 20, 2010, 02:27:08 AM
Fox Pulls PREDATORS Pics from Fansite:
http://iconsoffright.com/news/2010/01/fox_pulls_predators_pics_from.html (http://iconsoffright.com/news/2010/01/fox_pulls_predators_pics_from.html)
Heh, good article. Basically sums up how I feel when I'm asked to remove pictures.
It was a real asshole move by Fox, considering all the free advertising your site gives them.
Quote from: SiL on Jan 21, 2010, 01:05:22 AM
It had been stripped bare by the Super Preds.
Indeed... Lack of netting never came into my mind when I saw that pic cause I knew everything(well hopefully not EVERYTHING :o) had been stripped off him...
Quote from: Keith on Jan 21, 2010, 01:23:26 AM
Quote from: Darkness on Jan 20, 2010, 07:27:30 AM
Quote from: Keith on Jan 20, 2010, 02:27:08 AM
Fox Pulls PREDATORS Pics from Fansite:
http://iconsoffright.com/news/2010/01/fox_pulls_predators_pics_from.html (http://iconsoffright.com/news/2010/01/fox_pulls_predators_pics_from.html)
Heh, good article. Basically sums up how I feel when I'm asked to remove pictures.
It was a real asshole move by Fox, considering all the free advertising your site gives them.
It doesn't matter. If it doesn't belong to you, it doesn't belong to you. If I was a Fox exec, I would just say this(with my arms crossed): "I don't care take those images down, they are NOT yours, our movie is going to make millions regardless of how much "free advertising" your site gives us, because honestly, we don't need your "advertisement". You and your motley crew of fanboys can save your mom's pocket change and wait for dvd for all I care. What's a grand total of $200 bucks less at the box office going to do?"
Quote from: Pvt. Hicks on Jan 21, 2010, 02:12:38 AM
Quote from: Keith on Jan 21, 2010, 01:23:26 AM
Quote from: Darkness on Jan 20, 2010, 07:27:30 AM
Quote from: Keith on Jan 20, 2010, 02:27:08 AM
Fox Pulls PREDATORS Pics from Fansite:
http://iconsoffright.com/news/2010/01/fox_pulls_predators_pics_from.html (http://iconsoffright.com/news/2010/01/fox_pulls_predators_pics_from.html)
Heh, good article. Basically sums up how I feel when I'm asked to remove pictures.
It was a real asshole move by Fox, considering all the free advertising your site gives them.
It doesn't matter. If it doesn't belong to you, it doesn't belong to you. If I was a Fox exec, I would just say this(with my arms crossed): "I don't care take those images down, they are NOT yours, our movie is going to make millions regardless of how much "free advertising" your site gives us, because honestly, we don't need your "advertisement". You and your motley crew of fanboys can save your mom's pocket change and wait for dvd for all I care. What's a grand total of $200 bucks less at the box office going to do?"
It's true... Can't argue with that...
Quote from: Pvt. Hicks on Jan 21, 2010, 02:12:38 AM
Quote from: Keith on Jan 21, 2010, 01:23:26 AM
Quote from: Darkness on Jan 20, 2010, 07:27:30 AM
Quote from: Keith on Jan 20, 2010, 02:27:08 AM
Fox Pulls PREDATORS Pics from Fansite:
http://iconsoffright.com/news/2010/01/fox_pulls_predators_pics_from.html (http://iconsoffright.com/news/2010/01/fox_pulls_predators_pics_from.html)
Heh, good article. Basically sums up how I feel when I'm asked to remove pictures.
It was a real asshole move by Fox, considering all the free advertising your site gives them.
It doesn't matter. If it doesn't belong to you, it doesn't belong to you. If I was a Fox exec, I would just say this(with my arms crossed): "I don't care take those images down, they are NOT yours, our movie is going to make millions regardless of how much "free advertising" your site gives us, because honestly, we don't need your "advertisement". You and your motley crew of fanboys can save your mom's pocket change and wait for dvd for all I care. What's a grand total of $200 bucks less at the box office going to do?"
You big meanie :P
it wasn't an asshole move at all. it's their film and their money and sub-quality images can cause it harm, as has been proven by some of the comments on this 50+ page thread. they caused such dismay on some boards that an "industry insider" felt the need to have to defend the work.
i really HATE it when some aspect of a film is kept secret then some fkwit fanboy or newspaper has to prove how clever they are by blowing it : a national newspaper over here splattered pics of the new Godzilla monster after the studio had tried to keep it as a surprise, eg.
if anyone did an ar$ehole move, it was the tw@ who breached his contract and put the pics on a web page.
Quote from: wolfie138 on Jan 21, 2010, 08:57:55 AM
it wasn't an asshole move at all. it's their film and their money and sub-quality images can cause it harm, as has been proven by some of the comments on this 50+ page thread. they caused such dismay on some boards that an "industry insider" felt the need to have to defend the work.
i really HATE it when some aspect of a film is kept secret then some fkwit fanboy or newspaper has to prove how clever they are by blowing it : a national newspaper over here splattered pics of the new Godzilla monster after the studio had tried to keep it as a surprise, eg.
if anyone did an ar$ehole move, it was the tw@ who breached his contract and put the pics on a web page.
Easy for you to say sitting behind your PC. Put one of us on the set of Predators and you get your picture taken with Adrien Brody and 3 predators in the background, see if you can hold your tongue.
Doubt it. I have no problem with spoilers, It's part of the film making process, always has been.
i would take all the pics i was allowed to. i just wouldn't put them on a public website, especially if i'd signed a clause not to.
you know. i just noticed that the guys in the pred suits were kind of posing, which may mean that they were making production photos that may soon be released. ;D
also noticed that the preds in the set pics don't even have the classic fish nets on.
Not sure if this has been answered or not, but I was wondering who the other actor/stunt man (besides Brian Steele & Derek Mears) in the predator suit is?
(I think his suit is the predator in the middle of the picture with all three)
I wouldn't post that here. They got taken down for a reason.
I'd rather the SBP look like this:
http://www.modelzone.com/mangrasshopper/index.php?level=picture&id=2252
Quote from: Yautja117 on Jan 22, 2010, 03:10:46 AM
I'd rather the SBP look like this:
http://www.modelzone.com/mangrasshopper/index.php?level=picture&id=2252
I don't like the skulls, but other than that its cool.
Quote from: Yautja117 on Jan 22, 2010, 03:10:46 AM
I'd rather the SBP look like this:
http://www.modelzone.com/mangrasshopper/index.php?level=picture&id=2252
That seriously looks badass.. I would be very happy if BSP looked like that!
Quote from: Maxwell on Jan 22, 2010, 03:12:06 AM
Quote from: Yautja117 on Jan 22, 2010, 03:10:46 AM
I'd rather the SBP look like this:
http://www.modelzone.com/mangrasshopper/index.php?level=picture&id=2252
I don't like the skulls, but other than that its cool.
Vast improvement over the set pics (although we've not seen the faces)
Different, menacing, wild. Everything these SP's were supposed to be i thought.
I think that Predator looks good, period! SP or just a Predator....looks good.
Well, I still hope that SPs are going to look better then on those pics.
This would make one menacing BSP if it just had darker skin tones:
(https://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg33.imageshack.us%2Fimg33%2F8229%2F24349670.jpg&hash=98adb0631bfa21935258de85b216ef0f81d0b63f)
Oh wait, that's the Predator from Predator 2.
20 years later and Winston still owns everyone.
I have to agree. The look is rather menacing. Oh well.
http://www.modelzone.com/mangrasshopper/index.php?level=picture&id=2252 (http://www.modelzone.com/mangrasshopper/index.php?level=picture&id=2252)
I agree. This one really looks menacing.
I justrealized the one from P2 has weird eyes.
I heard FAMOUS MONSTERS OF FILMLAND is throwing a convention in Indianapolis with the cast of the new PREDATRS film. Sometime in July.
IMDB has Brian Steele listed a Predator now, still nothing on Mears.
Quote from: Mike The Wolf on Jan 25, 2010, 01:10:44 AM
IMDB has Brian Steele listed a Predator now, still nothing on Mears.
Noticed that earlier,
Spoiler
he should be listed as Black Super Predator.
Quote from: Keith on Jan 23, 2010, 01:07:40 AM
Oh wait, that's the Predator from Predator 2.
20 years later and Winston still owns everyone.
Stan Winston is going to own people forever...nothing can top what he did with Alien, Terminator, Predator, among others. He is the best in the biz.
Quote from: EarthHive on Jan 25, 2010, 01:40:00 AM
Quote from: Keith on Jan 23, 2010, 01:07:40 AM
Oh wait, that's the Predator from Predator 2.
20 years later and Winston still owns everyone.
Stan Winston is going to own people forever...nothing can top what he did with Alien, Terminator, Predator, among others. He is the best in the biz.
Uh...one correction to your statement.
Nobody can top what GIGER did with the Alien.
Not even Winston.
I thought predators was a re-make of the first predator now it looks like there making a nother chapter in the predator series.
Quote from: ROFLrawrDinosor on Jan 25, 2010, 03:51:55 AM
I thought predators was a re-make of the first predator now it looks like there making a nother chapter in the predator series.
It's technically Predator 3, ignoring both AVP films.
Quote from: Mike The Wolf on Jan 25, 2010, 01:10:44 AM
IMDB has Brian Steele listed a Predator now, still nothing on Mears.
I think that Mears can be
Spoiler
punk killed by Royce at the beginning of the film.
off topic: just noticed that predator on the right look like a wart hog (Phacochoerus aethiopicus) from that angle ;)
http://www.avpgalaxy.net/gallery/displayimage.php?album=244&pos=12
Quote from: Master on Jan 25, 2010, 09:01:04 AM
Quote from: Mike The Wolf on Jan 25, 2010, 01:10:44 AM
IMDB has Brian Steele listed a Predator now, still nothing on Mears.
I think that Mears can be Spoiler
punk killed by Royce at the beginning of the film.
He is playing the normal pred, there is a picture you can see the actors in the preds suits and Derek is one them
Quote from: Sabres21768 on Jan 25, 2010, 02:01:12 AM
Quote from: EarthHive on Jan 25, 2010, 01:40:00 AM
Quote from: Keith on Jan 23, 2010, 01:07:40 AM
Oh wait, that's the Predator from Predator 2.
20 years later and Winston still owns everyone.
Stan Winston is going to own people forever...nothing can top what he did with Alien, Terminator, Predator, among others. He is the best in the biz.
Uh...one correction to your statement.
Nobody can top what GIGER did with the Alien.
Not even Winston.
in your opinion. giger is mr-one-idea, Stan blows him out the water in every instance, not least because he not only designs, but he MAKES and BRINGS TO LIFE his creations.
Quote from: wolfie138 on Jan 25, 2010, 06:00:09 PMin your opinion. giger is mr-one-idea, Stan blows him out the water in every instance, not least because he not only designs, but he MAKES and BRINGS TO LIFE his creations.
Like Giger, Stan Winston had the help of his team to bring to life his creations. Giger did a lot of work bringing the Alien and the planet to life for the first Alien film, but both of them couldn't achieve those goals without the artists behind them.
Quote from: wolfie138 on Jan 25, 2010, 06:00:09 PM
Quote from: Sabres21768 on Jan 25, 2010, 02:01:12 AM
Quote from: EarthHive on Jan 25, 2010, 01:40:00 AM
Quote from: Keith on Jan 23, 2010, 01:07:40 AM
Oh wait, that's the Predator from Predator 2.
20 years later and Winston still owns everyone.
Stan Winston is going to own people forever...nothing can top what he did with Alien, Terminator, Predator, among others. He is the best in the biz.
Uh...one correction to your statement.
Nobody can top what GIGER did with the Alien.
Not even Winston.
in your opinion. giger is mr-one-idea, Stan blows him out the water in every instance, not least because he not only designs, but he MAKES and BRINGS TO LIFE his creations.
That's a hilarious (and ridiculous) statement, as Giger's "one idea" is the only reason Winston had something to sculpt.
Winston didn't design the Alien, Giger did. Winston just copied him. ::)
But, I'm sure you're just some little kid somewhere who doesn't understand the contribution Giger made to this whole franchise. So, I'll let your stupidity slide.
I'm pretty sure he wasn't referring to Gigers contribution to the franchise but rather Giger's overall work... And to be fair all of Giger's designs(style and aesthetic) look the same as the Alien design... Whereas Winston has done work on a huge number of projects all pretty different from the last...
Someone hit a nerve :D
I see it like this, Giger is of course i brilliant artist, no one is doubting that, but he's just specialised to on single style, and that's the alien style.
Everything he did screams 'Alien', just look at Species, he's rehashing himself over and over again. Winston created characters that were different in character and style, he did a shitload of memorable characters, giving us the Terminator, Predator, Pumpkinhead, Jurassic Park... not to mention his kick ass practical effects work, that after 20 or more years look better than most of the stuff done today.
I do in fact think that Winston is the better artist.
Quote from: Johnny Handsome on Jan 25, 2010, 07:50:43 PM
Someone hit a nerve :D
I see it like this, Giger is of course i brilliant artist, no one is doubting that, but he's just specialised to on single style, and that's the alien style.
Everything he did screams 'Alien', just look at Species, he's rehashing himself over and over again. Winston created characters that were different in character and style, he did a shitload of memorable characters, giving us the Terminator, Predator, Pumpkinhead, Jurassic Park... not to mention his kick ass practical effects work, that after 20 or more years look better than most of the stuff done today.
I do in fact think that Winston is the better artist.
A slightly better worded version of what I was trying to say :P
Didn't see you were responding too until i posted it. :)
At least we agree on something for once...
I'm curious to see if this draws in some Alien fans though...
It will, trust me on that one. ;D
Quote from: Johnny Handsome on Jan 25, 2010, 07:50:43 PM
Someone hit a nerve :D
I see it like this, Giger is of course i brilliant artist, no one is doubting that, but he's just specialised to on single style, and that's the alien style.
Everything he did screams 'Alien', just look at Species, he's rehashing himself over and over again. Winston created characters that were different in character and style, he did a shitload of memorable characters, giving us the Terminator, Predator, Pumpkinhead, Jurassic Park... not to mention his kick ass practical effects work, that after 20 or more years look better than most of the stuff done today.
I do in fact think that Winston is the better artist.
i dont think stan Winston had alot to do with Pumpkinhead's design, he was to busy directing it so i think it was tom woodruf that did the actual design.
Quote from: Johnny Handsome on Jan 25, 2010, 07:50:43 PM
but he's just specialised to on single style, and that's the alien style.
How much Giger stuff are you familiar with, though?
I have most of his books, and his work isn't just specialised to biomechanoids. That's just his most popular stuff.
QuoteEverything he did screams 'Alien', just look at Species, he's rehashing himself over and over again.
'Alien' screams 'Giger', not the other way around.
QuoteWinston created characters that were different in character and style, he did a shitload of memorable characters, giving us the Terminator, Predator, Pumpkinhead, Jurassic Park...
The Terminator was designed mostly by James Cameron, Pumpkinhead was designed by his team, and Jurassic Park, well ... they were dinosaurs. Not exactly something they had to design from scratch. Same goes with the work he did on
Aliens - Giger designed everything but the Queen, which was also largely designed by Cameron himself.
I think people give Winston himself too much credit. Don't get me wrong, dude was a genius and incredibly talented, etc. etc. - I'm not talking down on him or his legacy - but everything he gets credited for was a
collaborative effort by his
entire team. If you look through
The Winston Effect you'll see most of the work pictured is credited to everyone
but him.
And
he acknowledged that.
But the
same can be said exactly for Giger, at least when
Alien is concerned. Sure, he designed, sculpted, and painted the adult Alien and egg and the Space Jockey, and designed the face-hugger, but the final form of the burster wasn't his doing and Carlo Rambaldi did the mechanical effects (Although Giger did design mechanisms for the face-hugger, using his engineering knowledge, but they ultimately weren't used).
This all being said, I'll take the creature effects of
Aliens over
Alien ... but the design of
Alien any day.
I am not disrepecting Giger...the man can draw. However, Winston, IMO...can draw and create the creature. I mean the dude made the Predator from his drawings (and a little inspiration from Cameron), he made the Terminator (he just didn't draw it), he made the Alien...once again...he just didn't draw it. He created these creatures. Of course it was a team effort...but he was the mastermind. He made these pictures move.
Quote from: EarthHive on Jan 26, 2010, 05:11:38 AM
I am not disrepecting Giger...the man can draw. However, Winston, IMO...can draw and create the creature. I mean the dude made the Predator from his drawings (and a little inspiration from Cameron), he made the Terminator (he just didn't draw it), he made the Alien...once again...he just didn't draw it. He created these creatures. Of course it was a team effort...but he was the mastermind. He made these pictures move.
But he didn't.
His
crew sculpted it, his
crew created the animatronics, his
crew painted them. He even jokes about it in the
Predator 2 special features, that he gets all the credit while everyone else does all of the work.
Giger did almost everything to do with the adult Alien himself, with the exception of the head mechanics - Carlo Rambaldi - and making the physical moulds. He designed it, he sculpted it, he painted it. Same deal with the Space Jockey.
Quote from: Sabres21768 on Jan 25, 2010, 07:35:04 PM
That's a hilarious (and ridiculous) statement, as Giger's "one idea" is the only reason Winston had something to sculpt.
Winston didn't design the Alien, Giger did. Winston just copied him. ::)
But, I'm sure you're just some little kid somewhere who doesn't understand the contribution Giger made to this whole franchise. So, I'll let your stupidity slide.
you're talking "Aliens", where Winston didn't "copy" him, he was paid to recreate something for a film. are you too stupid to understand that concept? Where did i say Windton created that alien? i kinda didn't, did i?
you let stupidity slide if you want. i'll let your ignorance, made-up accusations and petty troll attempts slide. i am fully aware of Giger's contribution to the alien franchise, i just don't give a sht because it's just a skeleton w/ a penis for a head the same way most of his designs incorporate sexual organs.
Quote from: wolfie138 on Jan 26, 2010, 07:28:20 AM
i am fully aware of Giger's contribution to the alien franchise, i just don't give a sht because it's just a skeleton w/ a penis for a head the same way most of his designs incorporate sexual organs.
Quote from: Johnny Handsome on Jan 25, 2010, 07:50:43 PM
Someone hit a nerve :D
Quote from: wolfie138 on Jan 26, 2010, 07:28:20 AM
Quote from: Sabres21768 on Jan 25, 2010, 07:35:04 PM
That's a hilarious (and ridiculous) statement, as Giger's "one idea" is the only reason Winston had something to sculpt.
Winston didn't design the Alien, Giger did. Winston just copied him. ::)
But, I'm sure you're just some little kid somewhere who doesn't understand the contribution Giger made to this whole franchise. So, I'll let your stupidity slide.
you're talking "Aliens", where Winston didn't "copy" him, he was paid to recreate something for a film. are you too stupid to understand that concept? Where did i say Windton created that alien? i kinda didn't, did i?
you let stupidity slide if you want. i'll let your ignorance, made-up accusations and petty troll attempts slide. i am fully aware of Giger's contribution to the alien franchise, i just don't give a sht because it's just a skeleton w/ a penis for a head the same way most of his designs incorporate sexual organs.
Aliens are very sexual creatures.
Look at the Alien's head in Wolfie's signature. I see a penis with a big vain.
Quote from: The Demon on Jan 26, 2010, 11:25:18 AM
Look at the Alien's head in Wolfie's signature. I see a penis with a big vain.
Look on Puks siganture :) There is also a description of it :D
P.S. Hi Puks
Quote from: The Demon on Jan 26, 2010, 11:25:18 AM
Look at the Alien's head in Wolfie's signature. I see a penis with a big vain.
Didn't you see Puks signature? ;D ;D
EDIT: psychonaut was faster... lol Everyone are thinking about Puks... ;D
Ah yes the conversation has descended into penis talk... Gotta love the internet
Quote from: Doomofman on Jan 26, 2010, 11:32:08 AM
Ah yes the conversation has descended into penis talk... Gotta love the internet
99% of internet is porn or sex
...that's why is so popular :D
Quote from: psychonaut25 on Jan 26, 2010, 11:33:47 AM
Quote from: Doomofman on Jan 26, 2010, 11:32:08 AM
Ah yes the conversation has descended into penis talk... Gotta love the internet
99% of internet is porn or sex
...that's why is so popular :D
So I lose 99% of the power of the Internet ...? ;D
This 1% is enough for me ... ;D
Quote from: keylight-di on Jan 26, 2010, 11:35:45 AM
Quote from: psychonaut25 on Jan 26, 2010, 11:33:47 AM
Quote from: Doomofman on Jan 26, 2010, 11:32:08 AM
Ah yes the conversation has descended into penis talk... Gotta love the internet
99% of internet is porn or sex
...that's why is so popular :D
So I lose 99% of the power of the Internet ...? ;D
This 1% is enough for me ... ;D
That 1% is the worst part of the internet :P
Quote from: Doomofman on Jan 26, 2010, 11:39:01 AM
Quote from: keylight-di on Jan 26, 2010, 11:35:45 AM
Quote from: psychonaut25 on Jan 26, 2010, 11:33:47 AM
Quote from: Doomofman on Jan 26, 2010, 11:32:08 AM
Ah yes the conversation has descended into penis talk... Gotta love the internet
99% of internet is porn or sex
...that's why is so popular :D
So I lose 99% of the power of the Internet ...? ;D
This 1% is enough for me ... ;D
That 1% is the worst part of the internet :P
I doubt it .. ;D
Quote from: keylight-di on Jan 26, 2010, 11:45:54 AM
Quote from: Doomofman on Jan 26, 2010, 11:39:01 AM
Quote from: keylight-di on Jan 26, 2010, 11:35:45 AM
Quote from: psychonaut25 on Jan 26, 2010, 11:33:47 AM
Quote from: Doomofman on Jan 26, 2010, 11:32:08 AM
Ah yes the conversation has descended into penis talk... Gotta love the internet
99% of internet is porn or sex
...that's why is so popular :D
So I lose 99% of the power of the Internet ...? ;D
This 1% is enough for me ... ;D
That 1% is the worst part of the internet :P
I doubt it .. ;D
Go look at the other 99% and find out :P
They are right ;D
I remain skeptical. ;)
Maybe there is something wrong with me, but I prefer to talk with you all, than to explore the mysteries of "larger area". ;)
Quote from: keylight-di on Jan 26, 2010, 12:27:25 PM
I remain skeptical. ;)
Maybe there is something wrong with me, but I prefer to talk with you all, than to explore the mysteries of "larger area". ;)
I think there is something wrong with you lol... Forums like this are just to pass time between visits to the other 99% :P
Well ...
Probably... ;D
The only explanation for me is that I'm a woman. So I have other preferences... ;)
So could we finally back to the topic? Pictures from this set? ;D
(*remaining sceptical*)
Quote from: Doomofman on Jan 26, 2010, 12:29:20 PM
Quote from: keylight-di on Jan 26, 2010, 12:27:25 PM
I remain skeptical. ;)
Maybe there is something wrong with me, but I prefer to talk with you all, than to explore the mysteries of "larger area". ;)
I think there is something wrong with you lol... Forums like this are just to pass time between visits to the other 99% :P
So right!!
HAHAHAHAHAHA!! ;D
Males...
;D ;D ;D
Phallic discussions, eh?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mx0fKYM90vQ
@Puks!
We missed you and your signature! ;D ;D ;D
why im always late for the fun? :-\
Quote from: wolfie138 on Jan 26, 2010, 07:28:20 AM
Quote from: Sabres21768 on Jan 25, 2010, 07:35:04 PM
That's a hilarious (and ridiculous) statement, as Giger's "one idea" is the only reason Winston had something to sculpt.
Winston didn't design the Alien, Giger did. Winston just copied him. ::)
But, I'm sure you're just some little kid somewhere who doesn't understand the contribution Giger made to this whole franchise. So, I'll let your stupidity slide.
you're talking "Aliens", where Winston didn't "copy" him, he was paid to recreate something for a film. are you too stupid to understand that concept? Where did i say Windton created that alien? i kinda didn't, did i?
you let stupidity slide if you want. i'll let your ignorance, made-up accusations and petty troll attempts slide. i am fully aware of Giger's contribution to the alien franchise, i just don't give a sht because it's just a skeleton w/ a penis for a head the same way most of his designs incorporate sexual organs.
It's good to see douchebaggery is alive and well.
Noobs make me laugh.
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Ok knock that shit off. nobody copied nobody, Giger designed and constructed the alien and Winston and his crew made them look real for a dfferent, not-the-f**king-same movie.
Quote from: SiL on Jan 26, 2010, 06:37:26 AM
Quote from: EarthHive on Jan 26, 2010, 05:11:38 AM
I am not disrepecting Giger...the man can draw. However, Winston, IMO...can draw and create the creature. I mean the dude made the Predator from his drawings (and a little inspiration from Cameron), he made the Terminator (he just didn't draw it), he made the Alien...once again...he just didn't draw it. He created these creatures. Of course it was a team effort...but he was the mastermind. He made these pictures move.
But he didn't.
His crew sculpted it, his crew created the animatronics, his crew painted them. He even jokes about it in the Predator 2 special features, that he gets all the credit while everyone else does all of the work.
Giger did almost everything to do with the adult Alien himself, with the exception of the head mechanics - Carlo Rambaldi - and making the physical moulds. He designed it, he sculpted it, he painted it. Same deal with the Space Jockey.
Like I said it was a team effort...however Winston just didn't sit around and do nothing....he was the mastermind. Just like Cameron for Avatar...he was the mastermind...but he wasn't the guy sitting at the computer working on wire-framed skeletons.
Quote from: EarthHive on Jan 27, 2010, 01:57:25 AM
Quote from: SiL on Jan 26, 2010, 06:37:26 AM
Quote from: EarthHive on Jan 26, 2010, 05:11:38 AM
I am not disrepecting Giger...the man can draw. However, Winston, IMO...can draw and create the creature. I mean the dude made the Predator from his drawings (and a little inspiration from Cameron), he made the Terminator (he just didn't draw it), he made the Alien...once again...he just didn't draw it. He created these creatures. Of course it was a team effort...but he was the mastermind. He made these pictures move.
But he didn't.
His crew sculpted it, his crew created the animatronics, his crew painted them. He even jokes about it in the Predator 2 special features, that he gets all the credit while everyone else does all of the work.
Giger did almost everything to do with the adult Alien himself, with the exception of the head mechanics - Carlo Rambaldi - and making the physical moulds. He designed it, he sculpted it, he painted it. Same deal with the Space Jockey.
Like I said it was a team effort...however Winston just didn't sit around and do nothing....he was the mastermind. Just like Cameron for Avatar...he was the mastermind...but he wasn't the guy sitting at the computer working on wire-framed skeletons.
Um...well, actually...
But that is kind of my point, Hicks. Cameron just like Winston....came up with the "technology" showed some people how to do it...and then became a consultant on future projects....but they were the masterminds.
Quote from: EarthHive on Jan 27, 2010, 02:50:00 AM
But that is kind of my point, Hicks. Cameron just like Winston....came up with the "technology" showed some people how to do it...and then became a consultant on future projects....but they were the masterminds.
Winston didn't come up with the tech, though. Again - His crew dude.
People were arguing who was better, Winston vs. Giger, and bringing up that Winston had a wider variety of work and made his things like and breathe.
My point was, when it came to the Alien franchise ... he didn't. Yet Giger did. Giger was the guy sculpting, and painting, and touching up, and designing, etc. etc. Winston oversaw his crew.
Winston made Dinos come to life god dammit!
Quote from: ShadowPred on Jan 27, 2010, 05:18:13 AM
Stan Winston Studios made Dinos come to life god dammit!
They sure did!
Who's got the popcorn?
Me...
Help yourself! ;D
Quote from: Sabres21768 on Jan 27, 2010, 12:09:15 AM
Quote from: wolfie138 on Jan 26, 2010, 07:28:20 AM
Quote from: Sabres21768 on Jan 25, 2010, 07:35:04 PM
That's a hilarious (and ridiculous) statement, as Giger's "one idea" is the only reason Winston had something to sculpt.
Winston didn't design the Alien, Giger did. Winston just copied him. ::)
But, I'm sure you're just some little kid somewhere who doesn't understand the contribution Giger made to this whole franchise. So, I'll let your stupidity slide.
you're talking "Aliens", where Winston didn't "copy" him, he was paid to recreate something for a film. are you too stupid to understand that concept? Where did i say Windton created that alien? i kinda didn't, did i?
you let stupidity slide if you want. i'll let your ignorance, made-up accusations and petty troll attempts slide. i am fully aware of Giger's contribution to the alien franchise, i just don't give a sht because it's just a skeleton w/ a penis for a head the same way most of his designs incorporate sexual organs.
zzzzzzzzzz
oh dear, another well-reasoned response. you can always tell when someone has no intelligence : if they can't make up something they resort to a lame comeback w/ a silly picture.
no more replies from me on this matter.
Quote from: wolfie138 on Jan 27, 2010, 07:59:24 AM
Quote from: Sabres21768 on Jan 27, 2010, 12:09:15 AM
Quote from: wolfie138 on Jan 26, 2010, 07:28:20 AM
Quote from: Sabres21768 on Jan 25, 2010, 07:35:04 PM
That's a hilarious (and ridiculous) statement, as Giger's "one idea" is the only reason Winston had something to sculpt.
Winston didn't design the Alien, Giger did. Winston just copied him. ::)
But, I'm sure you're just some little kid somewhere who doesn't understand the contribution Giger made to this whole franchise. So, I'll let your stupidity slide.
you're talking "Aliens", where Winston didn't "copy" him, he was paid to recreate something for a film. are you too stupid to understand that concept? Where did i say Windton created that alien? i kinda didn't, did i?
you let stupidity slide if you want. i'll let your ignorance, made-up accusations and petty troll attempts slide. i am fully aware of Giger's contribution to the alien franchise, i just don't give a sht because it's just a skeleton w/ a penis for a head the same way most of his designs incorporate sexual organs.
zzzzzzzzzz
oh dear, another well-reasoned response. you can always tell when someone has no intelligence : if they can't make up something they resort to a lame comeback w/ a silly picture.
no more replies from me on this matter.
HOORAY!
Mission accomplished. ;D
The alien in aliens was actually made just like how it looks in the first film. It was James Cameron that decided to take off the clear dome because it was to easy to break and he thought they look better with them off (totally agree with him)
Stan Winston came up with the predator design it was James Camerons idea to have them have mandibles.
They are both geniuses and I love both their work.
Gigar had crazy imagination but non of his work would look good on the screen. There is just pieces here and there that can be taken but overall I don't find his work that good. Just very interesting. Thats why the alien doesn't even look that similar to the one on screen, only its key features.
Come on he wanted the chest bursters to be damn chickens! LOL
James Cameron more or less designed the creatures for the seconed movie...not Winston, it was his job to bring them to life.
The Queen was Camerons baby, and the Idea of taking the dome off the Alien was his idea also...
Gigers designs are still there more or less...just tinkered with a little
there were slight changes to the elbows and hands too.
Didn't Winston design the Queen?
Quote from: darthmaul1 on Jan 27, 2010, 07:14:58 PM
Didn't Winston design the Queen?
Nope it was Camerons design. The behind the scenes documentary actually shows some shots of his artwork for it.
Winston was there to bring the whole thing to life.
Ah, gotcha, but the predator was his baby, cause the first company totally screwed it up.
Quote from: Spoon on Jan 27, 2010, 04:12:30 PM
Gigar had crazy imagination but non of his work would look good on the screen. There is just pieces here and there that can be taken but overall I don't find his work that good. Just very interesting. Thats why the alien doesn't even look that similar to the one on screen, only its key features.
The Space Jockey and derelict are exactly how he designed them.
Quote from: darthmaul1 on Jan 27, 2010, 07:49:54 PM
Ah, gotcha, but the predator was his baby, cause the first company totally screwed it up.
Yes there was a company who f**ked the first designs up, then Winstons company was brought on board, though the Pred design is partly Camerons idea too, he suggested the mandibles
Quote from: muse_manic on Jan 27, 2010, 10:12:56 PM
Quote from: darthmaul1 on Jan 27, 2010, 07:49:54 PM
Ah, gotcha, but the predator was his baby, cause the first company totally screwed it up.
Yes there was a company who f**ked the first designs up, then Winstons company was brought on board, though the Pred design is partly Camerons idea too, he suggested the mandibles
I saw that on the behind the scene thing too, and JCVD was the original predator, (boy that would of sucked if he was in it)
QuoteThe Space Jockey and derelict are exactly how he designed them.
Unfortunately we didn't see these behinds in the eggsilo, or did we?
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Quote from: darthmaul1 on Jan 27, 2010, 10:16:44 PM
Quote from: muse_manic on Jan 27, 2010, 10:12:56 PM
Quote from: darthmaul1 on Jan 27, 2010, 07:49:54 PM
Ah, gotcha, but the predator was his baby, cause the first company totally screwed it up.
Yes there was a company who f**ked the first designs up, then Winstons company was brought on board, though the Pred design is partly Camerons idea too, he suggested the mandibles
I saw that on the behind the scene thing too, and JCVD was the original predator, (boy that would of sucked if he was in it)
lol, JC would've insisted on some Predator ass shots.
Cameron is the man, i wish he was making predators instead of nimrod.
ohhh this is too much fun not to weigh in on.
over all other artists, giger has probably influenced my work the most. his imagination, attention to form, and execution are unlike a lot of other artists. he is a master at taking the concepts and images in his head, and putting them down "on paper" (he is also an accomplished mixed-media artist and sculptor) in a professional, finished work of art.
winston, on the other hand, manages more things than just himself and his imagination. giger has a handful of design concepts that were able to be executed exclusively by him, while winston has a portfolio. no, stan winston did not use his bare hands to create every creature that his studio turned out - however, if it were not for his knowledge of artistry and his craft, he would have never been in a position to assemble a hand-picked (by him) group of artists to execute the projects HE was able to secure. he coached a team of artists who's designs were not only great, but all functional, for whatever a story-writer asked for.
in terms of output, as an artist, in my opinion, stan winston CRUSHES giger. giger made the alien. stan made it functional - which is what you need to actually create a reality. NOW I KNOW giger sculpted the original suit, but i think its arguable just how functional it was - and thats all it was - a suit - not a character, not a creature - other people had to help bring that to life. artistry aside - aliens introduced you to a creature that you could actually see pursuing the protagonists - up walls, across ceilings, jumping, tail-whipping... wereas alien had a creature the protagonists had to come to - he hung, hid, crouched... was generally a big unexciting pussy of a creature. especially early on it was STAN WINSTON'S team (not just a team) that created, sculpted, engineered, and acted as the characters they brought to life. giger had the imagination, winston had the know-how. how does that saying go? something like imagine in one hand and shit in the other and see which fills first?
giger has this mystique about him because he creates dark, surrealistic art totally of his own. he's not part of any genre - his work is very distinctive. a lot of people like to see his work and personality as a weird gateway into an evil, weird place. well, thats gay. he's just an accomplished artist. he's not a dark wizard.
Quote from: ridetofight on Jan 28, 2010, 05:00:56 PM
artistry aside - aliens introduced you to a creature that you could actually see pursuing the protagonists - up walls, across ceilings, jumping, tail-whipping... wereas alien had a creature the protagonists had to come to - he hung, hid, crouched... was generally a big unexciting pussy of a creature.
Surely you're not dumb enough to not realise that has nothing to do with the people making the creature, and everything to do with the
script and
director, therefor has zero relevance on the subject, right? That's like saying ADI did the best Aliens in AvPR because they did nothing.
Besides - The first Alien
did have personality (And did persue its prey - air vent sequence). You could see its brain ticking over, it was a thinking organism with alien thought-processes.
The Aliens in
Aliens were zombies, totally devoid of any individuality, rocking up en masse when the script called for to get shot down and rack up the tension. No single Alien outside the Queen is worth paying attention to because, despite Winston's habit of creating characters, Cameron's direction
removes any character from them.
Which is totally gay, as you would say.
Quote from: SiL on Jan 28, 2010, 09:16:32 PM
Quote from: ridetofight on Jan 28, 2010, 05:00:56 PM
artistry aside - aliens introduced you to a creature that you could actually see pursuing the protagonists - up walls, across ceilings, jumping, tail-whipping... wereas alien had a creature the protagonists had to come to - he hung, hid, crouched... was generally a big unexciting pussy of a creature.
Surely you're not dumb enough to not realise that has nothing to do with the people making the creature, and everything to do with the script and director, therefor has zero relevance on the subject, right? That's like saying ADI did the best Aliens in AvPR because they did nothing.
Besides - The first Alien did have personality (And did persue its prey - air vent sequence). You could see its brain ticking over, it was a thinking organism with alien thought-processes.
The Aliens in Aliens were zombies, totally devoid of any individuality, rocking up en masse when the script called for to get shot down and rack up the tension. No single Alien outside the Queen is worth paying attention to because, despite Winston's habit of creating characters, Cameron's direction removes any character from them.
Which is totally gay, as you would say.
How were the aliens in aliens zombies??? they were intelligent thinking creatures (they cut the power) and (the were climbing above the ceiling and underneath the floor) they weren't just running through the door.
Quote from: SiL on Jan 28, 2010, 09:16:32 PM
Quote from: ridetofight on Jan 28, 2010, 05:00:56 PM
artistry aside - aliens introduced you to a creature that you could actually see pursuing the protagonists - up walls, across ceilings, jumping, tail-whipping... wereas alien had a creature the protagonists had to come to - he hung, hid, crouched... was generally a big unexciting pussy of a creature.
Surely you're not dumb enough to not realise that has nothing to do with the people making the creature, and everything to do with the script and director, therefor has zero relevance on the subject, right? That's like saying ADI did the best Aliens in AvPR because they did nothing.
Besides - The first Alien did have personality (And did persue its prey - air vent sequence). You could see its brain ticking over, it was a thinking organism with alien thought-processes.
The Aliens in Aliens were zombies, totally devoid of any individuality, rocking up en masse when the script called for to get shot down and rack up the tension. No single Alien outside the Queen is worth paying attention to because, despite Winston's habit of creating characters, Cameron's direction removes any character from them.
Which is totally gay, as you would say.
Why would you want them to have their own personalities?
I'd want each of them to be an individual. They aren't.
Quote from: SiL on Jan 29, 2010, 12:29:21 AM
I'd want each of them to be an individual. They aren't.
Give me an example on how you would have done it.
At what point did I say I could've done it better?
But you said you would have liked it better had they had individuality. Surely then, you must have envisioned them with individuality, and deemed it a good idea? I was just curious as to what you had in mind but nevermind.
anyone still has those pics to share!?
thx in advance,
marek
Quote from: SiL on Jan 29, 2010, 12:50:15 AM
At what point did I say I could've done it better?
You're expressing your dislike for it.. So obviously you think it could be better... Explain why...
Quote from: MastaMarek on Jan 29, 2010, 01:20:34 AM
anyone still has those pics to share!?
thx in advance,
marek
They are @ www.predatorstuff.com
Quote from: SiL on Jan 28, 2010, 09:16:32 PM
Quote from: ridetofight on Jan 28, 2010, 05:00:56 PM
artistry aside - aliens introduced you to a creature that you could actually see pursuing the protagonists - up walls, across ceilings, jumping, tail-whipping... wereas alien had a creature the protagonists had to come to - he hung, hid, crouched... was generally a big unexciting pussy of a creature.
Surely you're not dumb enough to not realise that has nothing to do with the people making the creature, and everything to do with the script and director, therefor has zero relevance on the subject, right? That's like saying ADI did the best Aliens in AvPR because they did nothing.
Besides - The first Alien did have personality (And did persue its prey - air vent sequence). You could see its brain ticking over, it was a thinking organism with alien thought-processes.
The Aliens in Aliens were zombies, totally devoid of any individuality, rocking up en masse when the script called for to get shot down and rack up the tension. No single Alien outside the Queen is worth paying attention to because, despite Winston's habit of creating characters, Cameron's direction removes any character from them.
Which is totally gay, as you would say.
no, i'm pretty dumb, but not that dumb. winston's cohorts did not come up with the idea or write the story - they were able to make what was in the script a reality - by problem solving with what techniques and materials were available. sure, the big chap LOOKED far more legit, but how much of him did we see. it's design is beautiful, and thats fine for something you just need to look at. but not something you need to run from. i personally hold functional design over aesthetics.
c'mon, air vent sequence? it wasn't the alien moving. it was a dot on a screen and an accompanying audio cue. then dallas moves to where he is crouching and "aaahhhh!!" monster hands! like someone jumping out of a bush on halloween. and justly, it can be argued that all that was asked for out of giger's creature by the director and the writers was to sit and wait, and was designed as such. thats why winston and cameron pushed the envelope again and again as an effects team - cameron had the radical ideas, and functional ideas for them, and winston had the artists and the functional knowledge to make them actually "come alive". no one asked the big chap to come running and leaping because it was the status quo not to. the design for the creature was impressive, the character itself (aside from the reproductive methods) - redunant. and thats not "totally gay", as you would put it, but just plain "gay" as i would put it.
looks pretty good with a pred face. just hope they dont mess that up. so far the yellow pred is pretty (https://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg199.imageshack.us%2Fimg199%2F2926%2F62092512.jpg&hash=092085370eb563a557442c85d696d65d69def7b0)
Quote from: bobcunk on Feb 02, 2010, 05:18:48 AM
looks pretty good with a pred face. just hope they dont mess that up. so far the yellow pred is pretty (https://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg199.imageshack.us%2Fimg199%2F2926%2F62092512.jpg&hash=092085370eb563a557442c85d696d65d69def7b0)
He looks like... Pred. Like from Winston's idea, almost Pussyface....
Beautiful...
It's relief, big relief...
Only this "fish" is funny.... ;D
i dont realy like the fishy thing for some reason, i liked the avp stile ones were good if they shronk them down alote. even the first one had flaws, at the end in the closeups you could see were the mask ended in the eye holes but that was more of a lighting error and could be blended better today. but i just think that it will be good with whats his face and such, cus i trust roberts you know face. is involved . but that quinton tarantio has been conected with SOME NOT SO GOOOD THINGS . BUT THAN AGAINE I DONT KNOW!!!!!
I don't like AvP style. Too much, too long, too... everything... ;)
As I hate AvP:R, I prefer design like that. Wolf looks IMHO better than boys from AvP. But it's matter of taste.
This fishy thing is funny, at all... ;D
Whole new design gives more and more hope...
Who thinks we'll see a Predators trailer during the Super Bowl?
Quote from: Skinner on Feb 03, 2010, 01:20:19 AM
Who thinks we'll see a Predators trailer during the Super Bowl?
[Raises hand] I'm pretty sure we can expect a PREDATORS update in the next few days or perhaps a week or so before the Super Bowl.
-Rakai'Thwei
Quote from: Skinner on Feb 03, 2010, 01:20:19 AM
Who thinks we'll see a Predators trailer during the Super Bowl?
I wouldn't doubt it, be a good chance to get the hype started.
Quote from: Ultrapredator on Feb 03, 2010, 07:15:30 AM
I wouldn't doubt it, be a good chance to get the hype started.
Hype's already been started.
-Rakai'Thwei
Quote from: RakaiThwei on Feb 03, 2010, 07:21:36 AM
Quote from: Ultrapredator on Feb 03, 2010, 07:15:30 AM
I wouldn't doubt it, be a good chance to get the hype started.
Hype's already been started.
-Rakai'Thwei
For fans sure, but not the general public.
Quote from: Ultrapredator on Feb 03, 2010, 07:25:12 AM
For fans sure, but not the general public.
All I can say is:
Let's see if it lives up to the hype..
-Rakai'Thwei
Quote from: RakaiThwei on Feb 03, 2010, 07:52:11 AM
Quote from: Ultrapredator on Feb 03, 2010, 07:25:12 AM
For fans sure, but not the general public.
All I can say is:
Let's see if it lives up to the hype..
-Rakai'Thwei
I remain confident. ;D
I want to be hype... I need to be hype... desperately... :-[
Given how retardedly expensive an ad is during Superbowl: Maybe not.
yeah, agreed - superbowl ad prices are beyond absurd - i doubt they'd spend the money.
seeing that picture again reminds me how underwhelming the designs are. i don't feel like theres anything unique about it - that suit specifically could have very easily been in lord of the rings - it just looks like a ogre with medieval-inspired armor. i don't think its a total loss though - if they get good actors inside the suits, that can make all the difference. man, i wish kph was still around. no one brought characters to life like him.
I agree about KPH. He truly gave the Predator personality. I have to give Ian Whyte credit for his work as the Predator. I was hoping for him to return for this film. I will reserve judgement for the guys in the suits for Predators until after I see the film.
I agree. Ian Whyte gave Scar also some personality. Also I liked his gestures. When he makes that gesture "it's a bomb" It reminded me ona KPH a bit.
Quote from: psychonaut25 on Feb 06, 2010, 11:01:56 AM
I agree. Ian Whyte gave Scar also some personality. Also I liked his gestures. When he makes that gesture "it's a bomb" It reminded me ona KPH a bit.
agreed. the only thing that i didn't really like what Ian did was in AVP-R, when he is in the downed predator ship and observing the scene of the crime. i thought it was kinda ridiculous that he would put his hand on the dead predator comrade and bow his head down; making some sort of "awww" sound. it was a little too much. :-\
Damn. Too bad the pictures are removed...
They are at www.predatorstuff.com
http://www.gallaryphoto.com/2010/01/suzuki-hayabusa-turned-into-awesome.html
BSP should ride that ;)
That's actually a really horrible bike...
Aliens vs Predator was in super hype mode at the UFC last night. AVP-R was hyped there aswell. I really can't see them running both AVP and Predators ad campaigns at the same time. They will wait for at least a month after AVP's release before we start getting stuff.
If they were going to release somthing soon, a trailer on the game disc would have been a cool idea. Kinda like how God of War 3 had a demo with District 9 or how Unreal Tournement 3 had a Gears of War 2 preview.
But I wouldn't get your hopes up.
Quote from: Invisible Darkness on Feb 04, 2010, 03:28:09 PM
I agree about KPH. He truly gave the Predator personality.
KPH and Arnold should have both been nominated for Oscars....I really believe that.
Oscars!? Ha ha ha ha
May be for make up and special effects (which it did I think) but noooooo way for acting! Don't get me wrong they were both great in the respective roles but acting Oscars!? That's going a bit too far.
but than Javier Bardem's performance in no country for old men was not much different than arnolds in t2 and he won an oscar for that.
Your joking Bob?
It wouldn't have mattered, the Academy doesn't consider suit actors for nominations. Doesn't he mean he didn't deserve it though.
Quote from: Voodo Magic Man on Feb 08, 2010, 06:56:15 AM
Oscars!? Ha ha ha ha
May be for make up and special effects (which it did I think) but noooooo way for acting! Don't get me wrong they were both great in the respective roles but acting Oscars!? That's going a bit too far.
I thought giving Morisa Tomei an Oscar for My Cousin Vinny was going a bit too far, but it happened.
Quote from: Voodo Magic Man on Feb 08, 2010, 06:56:15 AM
Oscars!? Ha ha ha ha
May be for make up and special effects (which it did I think) but noooooo way for acting! Don't get me wrong they were both great in the respective roles but acting Oscars!? That's going a bit too far.
Go back and watch both performances. KPH perfected that role....watch what he does with the creatures fingers...the way he moves his head...the little things are perfected and that is perfect acting. Arnold put on the best acting job of his life...watch the acting between him and dillion...the one about being expendable assets. Watch his exchanges between he and Mac after Blain died. That was great acting. I could go on and on about Arnold's performance.
Basically an Oscar is awarded to anyone that does one simple thing: If you "forget" who the actor is by his/her performance then it is Oscar worthy (all you see is the character). KPH did it (went beyond the makeup) and Arnold did it here....
No one was Oscar worthy in either Predator films.
Quote from: Royce on Feb 08, 2010, 12:28:02 PM
No one was Oscar worthy in either Predator films.
While I am a big fan of Predator, I have to agree with this statement.
Aren't here remaining "Super Black" Predator images?
Earthhive, I admire your passion for the performances in Predator but as much as I love them they are not acting oscar worthy.
I believe Sigourney Weaver and Alec Guiness are the only one to achive an acting nomination for staring in a sci-fi movie. If I have missed someone then let me know but I'm sure its a small list.
Arnolds performance in Predator was good but not oscart worthy imo. The closest Arnold will ever get to an oscar is an honoury one for his life time work.
In regards to KPH, he was good but nothing special to deserve an acting nomination. Don't get me wrong, he did a great job but oscar nomination!? You got to be kidding me. ::)
Don't be delusional. Why should they, or would they, award a guy in a costume, or Arnold, for this movie? ???
Quote from: Pvt. Hicks on Feb 09, 2010, 01:55:02 AM
Don't be delusional. Why should they, or would they, award a guy in a costume, or Arnold, for this movie? ???
I have to agree... Arnie has never ever put in an oscar worthy performance in his life... And yeah KPH did add a lot of character to the Predator but it wasn't an oscar worthy role...
Quote from: EarthHive on Feb 08, 2010, 12:20:25 PM
Quote from: Voodo Magic Man on Feb 08, 2010, 06:56:15 AM
Oscars!? Ha ha ha ha
May be for make up and special effects (which it did I think) but noooooo way for acting! Don't get me wrong they were both great in the respective roles but acting Oscars!? That's going a bit too far.
Go back and watch both performances. KPH perfected that role....watch what he does with the creatures fingers...the way he moves his head...the little things are perfected and that is perfect acting. Arnold put on the best acting job of his life...watch the acting between him and dillion...the one about being expendable assets. Watch his exchanges between he and Mac after Blain died. That was great acting. I could go on and on about Arnold's performance.
Basically an Oscar is awarded to anyone that does one simple thing: If you "forget" who the actor is by his/her performance then it is Oscar worthy (all you see is the character). KPH did it (went beyond the makeup) and Arnold did it here....
Ok yeah, by HIS standards, the best acting of HIS life, was in this movie(in your opinion). So? Still doesn't mean it's Oscar-worthy. I could be the worst actor ever, and then put it in a slightly less bad performance, okay, cool, but does that mean I should be awarded an Oscar?
And so what if KPH "perfected" the Predator? It's not like they had a previous film, incarnation, tv show, or comic to base this "perfection" off of anyway.
Awarding a guy for playing a monster? That's some carnival shit.
KPH played a lot of movie mons in his time cos of his height and his incredible acting skills the movies were only believable cos of him, he brought realism to the mons cos after all they were rubber n the only person ive seen thats even in the same league as KPH is ian white with his performance in avp2
what about the guy that played the pred in pred 2 after he gets his arm cut off?
Quote from: bobcunk on Feb 09, 2010, 03:24:38 AM
what about the guy that played the pred in pred 2 after he gets his arm cut off?
Kevin Peter Hall?
Died in 1991.
Another actor played pussyface after he got his arm cut off. Kevin then played the Elder Predator. Both movies he played 2 characters, P1 Anytime & Helicopter pilot at the end, P2 Pussyface & Elder.
Quote from: Mike The Wolf on Feb 09, 2010, 04:55:59 AM
Another actor played pussyface after he got his arm cut off. Kevin then played the Elder Predator. Both movies he played 2 characters, P1 Anytime & Helicopter pilot at the end, P2 Pussyface & Elder.
No, they used a one arm stunt man just for that scene, it was Kevin who played the Predator after that scene. He also played the Elder like you said.
Quote from: Voodo Magic Man on Feb 08, 2010, 02:35:23 PM
Earthhive, I admire your passion for the performances in Predator but as much as I love them they are not acting Oscar worthy.
I believe Sigourney Weaver and Alec Guiness are the only one to achive an acting nomination for staring in a sci-fi movie. If I have missed someone then let me know but I'm sure its a small list.
Arnolds performance in Predator was good but not oscart worthy imo. The closest Arnold will ever get to an oscar is an honoury one for his life time work.
In regards to KPH, he was good but nothing special to deserve an acting nomination. Don't get me wrong, he did a great job but oscar nomination!? You got to be kidding me. ::)
No worries, not arguing....all I am saying is Arnold had a great performance...and if they put him in place of one of the other actors nominated...I wouldn't have complained.
Yes, KPH was the first incarnation of Predator on screen. Yes he perfected the role. Have you ever seen a "movie monster" played better since?
Once again....not arguing...just an opinion.
Quote from: EarthHive on Feb 09, 2010, 12:21:18 PM
Quote from: Voodo Magic Man on Feb 08, 2010, 02:35:23 PM
Earthhive, I admire your passion for the performances in Predator but as much as I love them they are not acting Oscar worthy.
I believe Sigourney Weaver and Alec Guiness are the only one to achive an acting nomination for staring in a sci-fi movie. If I have missed someone then let me know but I'm sure its a small list.
Arnolds performance in Predator was good but not oscart worthy imo. The closest Arnold will ever get to an oscar is an honoury one for his life time work.
In regards to KPH, he was good but nothing special to deserve an acting nomination. Don't get me wrong, he did a great job but oscar nomination!? You got to be kidding me. ::)
No worries, not arguing....all I am saying is Arnold had a great performance...and if they put him in place of one of the other actors nominated...I wouldn't have complained.
Yes, KPH was the first incarnation of Predator on screen. Yes he perfected the role. Have you ever seen a "movie monster" played better since?
Once again....not arguing...just an opinion.
Doug Jones is pretty fantastic in everything he does. I would love to see him bulk up and hop in a pred suit.
Bulk up? We all know how a roid Pred looks, Doug should stay skinny, it works better for suit acting.
Quote from: Danger Close on Feb 09, 2010, 06:46:12 PM
Bulk up? We all know how a roid Pred looks, Doug should stay skinny, it works better for suit acting.
Very true, i guess in my mind KPH was bigger than Doug though. I certainly don't want Anderson Predators again.
(https://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi231.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fee44%2FXenomorph02%2Fbsp.jpg&hash=4266e11ae081d43894eeefba0a9e4b6712634fef)
Just needs the fake motivational poster text:
BSP
Because actual Predators were sissy's
Would work if I could find a decent Demotivational Poster maker.
EDIT: Motifake.com! Be back in a few! ;D
EDIT2:
(https://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi231.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fee44%2FXenomorph02%2Fblack-super-predators-predators-201.jpg&hash=8d3fe2468f0acbc29efcfab3efae16e4becbb0c2)
Haha there we go!
Oh, guys! ;D
You are the creators of worse nightmares than RR. ;D ;D ;D
Good-Night... Or maybe not... ;D
Great... ;D
Hahaha that`s funny ;D Or not :-\
:D
Glad I could strike fear into your hearts!
Quote from: Purebreedalien on Feb 09, 2010, 09:55:10 PM
:D
Glad I could strike fear into your hearts!
Purebreedalien - swift and deadly... ;D
Only one thing I could afraid it's that RR can find this beauty and use it. But it's too late! ;D ;D
Any more pics of that Pred?
That retarded one? I'll put them inside a Quote so they don't take up too much room. Here you go;
Quote
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(https://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.modelzone.com%2Fmangrasshopper%2Fimages%2Fmodel_kit_buildups%2Fwarlord%2Fwarl10.jpg&hash=9a1c66daf4df152f481f71eb3bed8da5441a997a)
(https://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.modelzone.com%2Fmangrasshopper%2Fimages%2Fmodel_kit_buildups%2Fwarlord%2Fwarl4.jpg&hash=7ef153075e63e703378bbf91c6ccb27c51f2641d)
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Credit goes to Commander Griker for finding them, even though they are hideously deformed.
Jeez... It doesn't get any better with extra pics... What a stupid lookin pred
Indeed.
Those are the most ridiculous mandibles I have ever seen.
Doubt this movie will be as good as "Predator" & "Predator 2" i'll still watch it mostly for lols..
Will be a long time till we see a movie like these back as they once where hmmm....
Quote from: Purebreedalien on Feb 09, 2010, 09:14:52 PM
Would work if I could find a decent Demotivational Poster maker.
EDIT: Motifake.com! Be back in a few! ;D
EDIT2:
(https://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi231.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fee44%2FXenomorph02%2Fblack-super-predators-predators-201.jpg&hash=8d3fe2468f0acbc29efcfab3efae16e4becbb0c2)
Now that is a BSP! Good work! BSP....when normal Predators just aren't enough.
"Because real predators were sissys" LMAOoooo it dont get any funnier than that
Not my idea, Peteysodes gets all credit for the tagline, I just found the image. ;D
Quote from: EarthHive on Feb 10, 2010, 03:50:53 AM
Quote from: Purebreedalien on Feb 09, 2010, 09:14:52 PM
Would work if I could find a decent Demotivational Poster maker.
EDIT: Motifake.com! Be back in a few! ;D
EDIT2:
(https://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi231.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fee44%2FXenomorph02%2Fblack-super-predators-predators-201.jpg&hash=8d3fe2468f0acbc29efcfab3efae16e4becbb0c2)
Now that is a BSP! Good work! BSP....when normal Predators just aren't enough.
But he isn't
BSP...
He is
GSP.... ;D
Gold,
golden...
glorious... ;D ;D
Quote from: keylight-di on Feb 10, 2010, 08:11:46 AM
Gold, golden... glorious... ;D ;D
Golden Super Predator...
.....Must.. resists..
"IT'S OVER 9000!!"
"WHAT 9000?!!"
"I AM SON PREDATOR!!! A SUPER PREDATOOOOOOORRRRR!!! NOW YOU HAVE ANGERED ME, FRIIIEEEZAAAAAA!"
-Rakai'Thwei
Now we all can laugh... ;D
But could you imagine situation, than RR finds it and thinks:
"Oh, what great idea, I love it, so everyone must love it. I'm master of puppets, I create new quality!
Love him!!"
We could yearn BSP... ;D ;D
Yea, hard to imagine, but terribly possible... ;D
Quote from: RakaiThwei on Feb 10, 2010, 08:17:15 AM
Quote from: keylight-di on Feb 10, 2010, 08:11:46 AM
Gold, golden... glorious... ;D ;D
Golden Super Predator...
.....Must.. resists..
"IT'S OVER 9000!!"
"WHAT 9000?!!"
"I AM SON PREDATOR!!! A SUPER PREDATOOOOOOORRRRR!!! NOW YOU HAVE ANGERED ME, FRIIIEEEZAAAAAA!"
-Rakai'Thwei
Dragon Ball: P ;D Now is all about Super Predatorz ;)
Quote from: Master on Feb 10, 2010, 10:24:55 AM
Quote from: RakaiThwei on Feb 10, 2010, 08:17:15 AM
Quote from: keylight-di on Feb 10, 2010, 08:11:46 AM
Gold, golden... glorious... ;D ;D
Golden Super Predator...
.....Must.. resists..
"IT'S OVER 9000!!"
"WHAT 9000?!!"
"I AM SON PREDATOR!!! A SUPER PREDATOOOOOOORRRRR!!! NOW YOU HAVE ANGERED ME, FRIIIEEEZAAAAAA!"
-Rakai'Thwei
Dragon Ball: P ;D Now is all about Super Predatorz ;)
I am now picturing the inevitable spin-off kids show following the success of Predators:
Pred and Pals!!!
(https://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.sideshowtoy.com%2Fmas_assets%2Flarge%2F9003841.jpg&hash=274862933ddcfc444205f59e1513cd06253cb0b1)
It stars Petey the Predator (above) and his pals as they go on adventures while avoiding the clutches Predator Percival Pred an evil Super Black Predator. Will Petey find out his origins and learn to harness his Golden Super Predator roots?
Tune in Saturday!
Quote from: Master on Feb 10, 2010, 10:24:55 AM
Dragon Ball: P ;D Now is all about Super Predatorz ;)
Robureto Rodurigesu PUREDATORUSU: Denesetsu No SUPA PUREDATORU-JIN!!
-Rakai'Thwei
I might be alone in this, but I actually like the BSP. :-\
Quote from: Navaha on Feb 10, 2010, 05:32:46 PM
I might be alone in this, but I actually like the BSP. :-\
Not, you not alone. But you'll be alienated, I'm afraid... :-\
The BSP is not that bad a concept. I will judge properly when I see it..
the bsp concept might work out just fine in the movie if done right.
It will add more mystery to thepredator universe which isnt a bad thing.
Is the BSP the Predator with the white jaw line in the set photo?
I think he is the one in the middle.
Quote from: greygoose87 on Feb 10, 2010, 10:59:26 PM
Is the BSP the Predator with the white jaw line in the set photo?
Yes, and that's confirmed.
Quote from: Johnny Handsome on Feb 10, 2010, 11:26:21 PM
Quote from: greygoose87 on Feb 10, 2010, 10:59:26 PM
Is the BSP the Predator with the white jaw line in the set photo?
Yes, and that's confirmed.
That's good news. Any theories to what the white jaw thing is attached to his mask?
The BSP with the jawline is the most badass looking of the three.
Quote from: Johnny Handsome on Feb 10, 2010, 11:26:21 PM
Quote from: greygoose87 on Feb 10, 2010, 10:59:26 PM
Is the BSP the Predator with the white jaw line in the set photo?
Yes, and that's confirmed.
The other two are BSP's too right?
Quote from: Johnny Handsome on Feb 10, 2010, 11:26:21 PM
Quote from: greygoose87 on Feb 10, 2010, 10:59:26 PM
Is the BSP the Predator with the white jaw line in the set photo?
Yes, and that's confirmed.
From where? I thought the BSP was a different beast?
So It's confirmed he's one of the 3 fat Power Rangers? That sucks, really not looking forward to these predators. I need to see some quality shots before I start laughing out loud though.
I fully enjoy the fact that this would most likely be a non-issue if RR hadn't chosen to refer to them as "Black Super Predators". If he used Dark/Fallen/Outlaw, ect. Predators i guarantee it wouldn't have generated this much fan controversy.
But who knows, once we get a good look maybe that's the best name for them. If that's the case though...
:'(
I agree, in the movie they won't be even be referred to as Predators let alone BSP!
People should chill.
Quote from: keylight-di on Feb 10, 2010, 06:29:33 PM
Quote from: Navaha on Feb 10, 2010, 05:32:46 PM
I might be alone in this, but I actually like the BSP. :-\
Not, you not alone. But you'll be alienated, I'm afraid... :-\
By alien fans?
No Predator fans.
However, I'm a Predator fan and I like the BSP.
I guess the main issue people have is the fact this new Pred is meant to be bigger and stronger then the original and that it has black blood.
In other words, it sounds stupid to me. Why does it have black blood? Does it breathe a different mixture of chemicals than the 'normal' Predator to make its blood black? Why?
Maybe they're a sub-species of Predators that have made their home on a planet with a different atmosphere for a long, long time and subsequently this sub-species adapted. That doesn't sound absolutely retarded, does it?
But why?! Predators are badass as it is! What do we need Super Predators for? Wolf (the Predator from AvP:R) pretty much proved (in a somewhat silly way) that Predators can be moar kickass than what we've seen before. No need to suddenly change fundamental things about the species. Except that... Wolf seems to be acid-proof. Nevermind that, though. I'm just rambling about why I think it's silly. :P
Oh, guys...
You are new here...
We made here so many discussions, so many bloody fights about BSP... ;) A half of threads are about it, more or less.. For the beginning - you should read the script. And a bit posts... ;)
It's so boring to repeat these arguments again and again...
can someone explain what the hell is a Black Super Predator. the original predator in Predator was already over 7'2 and an Ahnuld dominating killing machine, what is there to improve
???
Quote from: magical_boy on Feb 11, 2010, 10:41:56 PM
can someone explain what the hell is a Black Super Predator. the original predator in Predator was already over 7'2 and an Ahnuld dominating killing machine, what is there to improve
???
Exactly. The whole concept of the Black Super Predator is just unnecessary and unwarrented. If anything it sounds like they definately jumped the shark on this one.
-Rakai'Thwei
Quote from: RakaiThwei on Feb 12, 2010, 12:32:09 AM
Quote from: magical_boy on Feb 11, 2010, 10:41:56 PM
can someone explain what the hell is a Black Super Predator. the original predator in Predator was already over 7'2 and an Ahnuld dominating killing machine, what is there to improve
???
Exactly. The whole concept of the Black Super Predator is just unnecessary and unwarrented. If anything it sounds like they definately jumped the shark on this one.
-Rakai'Thwei
well when we see them on screen like a real shot from the movie or a trailer then we can tell for sure if they look bad ass or lame the set photos you dont really get 110% out of them couse ya they are from the set so stuff could have been taken off all that kind of crap hehe but me i wont jugde untill i see the super blackie pred the way its suposse to look from the complete movie.
Quote from: dallevalle on Feb 12, 2010, 03:34:05 AM
well when we see them on screen like a real shot from the movie or a trailer then we can tell for sure if they look bad ass or lame the set photos you dont really get 110% out of them couse ya they are from the set so stuff could have been taken off all that kind of crap hehe but me i wont jugde untill i see the super blackie pred the way its suposse to look from the complete movie.
I just mean the concept of it all. I'm not talking about the photos. I'm not talking about suits.
I'm talking about the idea. The idea itself just seems unnessecsary. Kind of like the genetically mutated Aliens in Alien Resurrection but at least that was explained why.
-Rakai'Thwei
Quote from: RakaiThwei on Feb 12, 2010, 03:40:58 AM
Quote from: dallevalle on Feb 12, 2010, 03:34:05 AM
well when we see them on screen like a real shot from the movie or a trailer then we can tell for sure if they look bad ass or lame the set photos you dont really get 110% out of them couse ya they are from the set so stuff could have been taken off all that kind of crap hehe but me i wont jugde untill i see the super blackie pred the way its suposse to look from the complete movie.
I just mean the concept of it all. I'm not talking about the photos. I'm not talking about suits.
I'm talking about the idea. The idea itself just seems unnessecsary. Kind of like the genetically mutated Aliens in Alien Resurrection but at least that was explained why.
-Rakai'Thwei
well i can see why you dont like the idea course it wont be explained and its not true to the preds as we know them but for me im like hey we are getting a new predator movie ( preds alone no avp crap) so im like i just want to see it story all that everything characters i dont really care i just want to finally see a predator movie again and now its almost here ^^
Quote from: dallevalle on Feb 12, 2010, 04:22:47 AM
well i can see why you dont like the idea course it wont be explained and its not true to the preds as we know them but for me im like hey we are getting a new predator movie ( preds alone no avp crap) so im like i just want to see it story all that everything characters i dont really care i just want to finally see a predator movie again and now its almost here ^^
It's not just because it isn't explained at all. It's because it pretty much contradicts the mythos which the previous two movies had set. At least, in my view it does anyway.
Didn't the Predator hunt for the challenge? The thrill of the hunt? To get that adrenline rush in knowing that his prey is dangerous enough to actually kill him?
If so, then why go through the trouble of upgrading itself to a genetic level, then kidnapping prey and taking them to an environment where the advantage is clearly in the Super Predator's favor?
To me it just doesn't fit the mythos of Predator. But hey, just my two cents..
The only thing which I get out of this that they're at war with the mainstream Predators, which kind of makes sense.
-Rakai'Thwei
When I think of the BSP I think of this song. Not in a good way mind you.
Quote from: magical_boy on Feb 11, 2010, 10:41:56 PM
can someone explain what the hell is a Black Super Predator.
???
We answered that in another thread...Black Super Predator is Michael Jackson...
Quote from: echobbase79 on Feb 12, 2010, 05:16:48 AM
When I think of the BSP I think of this song. Not in a good way mind you.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8IFOcybFyNw
Oh maaaaan....
I can't guess why... but it fits perfectly... ;D ;D
(*
self destruction*)
Quote from: EarthHive on Feb 12, 2010, 05:58:03 AM
Quote from: magical_boy on Feb 11, 2010, 10:41:56 PM
can someone explain what the hell is a Black Super Predator.
???
We answered that in another thread...Black Super Predator is Michael Jackson...
And so many times, so many ways...
So many, many, many...
Quote from: echobbase79 on Feb 12, 2010, 05:16:48 AM
When I think of the BSP I think of this song. Not in a good way mind you.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8IFOcybFyNw
Oh god What the mother f**k
Quote from: Voodo Magic Man on Feb 11, 2010, 07:23:34 PM
No Predator fans.
However, I'm a Predator fan and I like the BSP.
I guess the main issue people have is the fact this new Pred is meant to be bigger and stronger then the original and that it has black blood.
the biggest problem i have with it (and bare in mind im a big pred fan ) is that by the end of the movie no matter how big and strong the BSP is he will still end up being killed in hand to hand combat by an inferior opponent (human) cos lets be honest no director will let the human race be killed off even if it is only a small group. Sure there are your braveheart moments where the hero dies but its more of a self sacrifice for the greater good which still ultimately results in the big bad monsters dying and the few surviving humans doing just that. PS sorry to go on and on :o
Quote from: Tucci on Jan 16, 2010, 09:42:29 AM
I'd laugh if the BSP was the black guy...
AHAHAAHHAHAHAA.... anytime... ;D
DATS RACIST!!!!1111
that was kinda racist wasn't it. i apologize on everyones behalf.
no, i was the one being racist.
Quote from: Pauk -d Paya on Feb 13, 2010, 06:21:44 AM
Quote from: Voodo Magic Man on Feb 11, 2010, 07:23:34 PM
No Predator fans.
However, I'm a Predator fan and I like the BSP.
I guess the main issue people have is the fact this new Pred is meant to be bigger and stronger then the original and that it has black blood.
the biggest problem i have with it (and bare in mind im a big pred fan ) is that by the end of the movie no matter how big and strong the BSP is he will still end up being killed in hand to hand combat by an inferior opponent (human) cos lets be honest no director will let the human race be killed off even if it is only a small group. Sure there are your braveheart moments where the hero dies but its more of a self sacrifice for the greater good which still ultimately results in the big bad monsters dying and the few surviving humans doing just that. PS sorry to go on and on :o
I'd like to see a movie with no humans. A movie just about the preds ya know. Pred civil war between normal and "bad bloods", a movie about a routine hunt gone bad ect ect ect...
Which would get either very tedious or very silly very quickly.
Quote from: SiL on Feb 22, 2010, 06:39:17 AM
Which would get either very tedious or very silly very quickly.
Agreed.
:P and so will all the normal pred movies after this one lol. It would be a long shot, but I think if done right, would be great. :/ after all theres only so many thins with humans that we can do. The premise of this new one is kinda meh as it is.....same goes for avp...if the franchise is to thrive you gotta try new things. I like marines and the whole pred vs trained soldier/cop...but it's already getting old, and pred vs "random people in the streets".....xD well that was basically the back story of P1 and the background crap of P2 lol. :/ I just want somethin new...U-U
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Quote from: Adey on Feb 13, 2010, 06:21:44 AM
Quote from: Voodo Magic Man on Feb 11, 2010, 07:23:34 PM
No Predator fans.
However, I'm a Predator fan and I like the BSP.
I guess the main issue people have is the fact this new Pred is meant to be bigger and stronger then the original and that it has black blood.
the biggest problem i have with it (and bare in mind im a big pred fan ) is that by the end of the movie no matter how big and strong the BSP is he will still end up being killed in hand to hand combat by an inferior opponent (human) cos lets be honest no director will let the human race be killed off even if it is only a small group. Sure there are your braveheart moments where the hero dies but its more of a self sacrifice for the greater good which still ultimately results in the big bad monsters dying and the few surviving humans doing just that. PS sorry to go on and on :o
that has always been my problem with predator. just from a different angle.
if the preds have cloaking, and want to hunt one by one, and collect trophies from challenges, why do they use shoulder cannons and what-not? these weapons require little to no skill (esp with helmet targeting), so doesnt that kinda make the honour thing redundant?
i want to see a predator movie where the pred actually faces a real challenge. taking on armed soldiers etc with only wrist blades and whatever it knocks together with whats lying around (e.g. bow and arrows) makes the honour thing fit, makes the trophy worth collecting and makes it believable if the prey does actually manage to kill it.
I hate how humanity has to always win.
"want to see a predator movie where the pred actually faces a real challenge. taking on armed soldiers etc with only wrist blades and whatever it knocks together with whats lying around"
you mean like P2 taking out the Scorpion's gang.
I don't think that Predator ever had a challenge except for when Harrigan f**ked him up with the shotgun. That Predator always new what he was doing. He took down almost an entire special ops team with a spear and no cloak.
Knowing what you're up against still means challenge if that something's strong. The same goes for the individual knowing his own actions. Surprise can improve the fun factor in challenge, but it doesn't mean without it there's no challenge. Keyes' team meant challenge. So did many other humans in the movies.
Quote from: 08yeyinde on Mar 11, 2010, 12:59:19 PM
Knowing what you're up against still means challenge if that something's strong. The same goes for the individual knowing his own actions. Surprise can improve the fun factor in challenge, but it doesn't mean without it there's no challenge. Keyes' team meant challenge. So did many other humans in the movies.
multiple vision modes, extreme natural strength and endurance, plasma caster (with targeting), super sharp (vibro-blade?) spear, cloaking device, throwing disc, claws, wristblades, netgun, dart launcher and a few bullet proof armour parts all against single vision mode, and either firearm or nitrogen freeze gun. i think the preds are just too heavily armed. the pred in p1 used less sure, but still did alot of plasma casting.
i think the preds would be way more scary if they used stealth more for getting close and snatching individuals with only wristblades, or arrows/spears for if they really had to do it over long distance.
Valid, but they are still up against creatures with serious weapons. Weapons that can kill the or damage badly. I think it's enough for challenge. In pred 1 he used his wristblades and pc like 4:3 (until the showdown with Dutch), but against Blaine it was obvious for me. In p2 he used all his weaponary.
Still, this is not my point, but that they can be killed and they know that. I think it's challenging.
Quotei think the preds would be way more scary if they used stealth more for getting close and snatching individuals with only wristblades
Yes. Like the way he killed Hawkins.
Quote from: 08yeyinde on Mar 11, 2010, 08:43:23 PM
Valid, but they are still up against creatures with serious weapons. Weapons that can kill the or damage badly. I think it's enough for challenge. In pred 1 he used his wristblades and pc like 4:3 (until the showdown with Dutch), but against Blaine it was obvious for me. In p2 he used all his weaponary.
Still, this is not my point, but that they can be killed and they know that. I think it's challenging.
Quotei think the preds would be way more scary if they used stealth more for getting close and snatching individuals with only wristblades
Yes. Like the way he killed Hawkins.
but imo the pred didnt do it enough. the pred has an image of total badass abilty and strength, of bullets not being enough (even multiple direct blasts from a shotgun) so the preds could quite easily refrain from casters. afterall, even blaine with a minigun wouldnt be enough if he didnt ses or hear the pred till it was too late (miniguns arent easy to use either, let alone aim at a fast moving, hard to see object at close range).
i guess my point is, there needs to be a movie where the pred REALLY earns the title of ultimate hunter. i love the predators, but i think plasma casters should be saved for xenomorphs/ mechs/ big monsters etc.
i think I see your point.I think Blaine was pretty dangerous enough. And don't forget the pred gets into battles he fights against multiple enemies. And with killing with wristblades would easily give his position also. He just cannot be at too much places at one time. So I think pc is okay.
But I agree with you. If preds would use mostly their great physichal abilities and melee would be good. Or just stick to their great hunting tactics. I think pred 1 was really imressive on that.