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Title: Consoles Patch #3 Details
Post by: ikarop on Mar 19, 2013, 10:43:48 PM
Quote from: Gearbox SoftwareA new update will be rolling out early tomorrow morning (March 20) on PlayStation 3 and Xbox 360.

Quote3/20/2013 Update

General

    - Added additional safeguards to better protect save data.
    - Resolved an issue where a player's level could sometimes appear incorrect when backing out of a party.
    - Addressed several scenarios under which players could spawn without a weapon.
    - Changes to better prevent audio from sometimes cutting out during end of mission cinematics.
    - Fixed issue where Xeno death animation was not properly calculating momentum of the killing blow.
    - Smart Gun animation now properly tracks targets.
    - Addressed some instances where Xenos would display erratic animations.
    - Increased light radius for player's shoulder lamp.
    - Adjusted aim assist to better reflect player input.
    - Miscellaneous bug fixes.


Campaign

    - Tweaked enemy and friendly AI to be more aggressive and responsive.
    - Modified campaign difficulty to account for improved AI responsiveness.
    - Improved enemy collision detection regarding doors and Power Loader.
    - Addressed some issues that could cause improper warping for co-op players.
    - Various tweaks to address instances where NPC characters would not always properly navigate to objectives.
    - Players will no longer bleed out immediately when downed in a Power Loader.

Versus


    - Increased duration of Lurker Pounce Challenge "Cat-Like Reflexes" from 10 to 20 seconds.
    - Fixed issue where certain multiplayer challenges would not unlock properly for all characters.
    - Crusher pick-ups now correctly appear as highlighted for clients.
Title: Re: Consoles Patch #3 Details
Post by: Njm1983 on Mar 19, 2013, 10:53:51 PM
No Graphics?  ??? :(
Title: Re: Consoles Patch #3 Details
Post by: ignite on Mar 19, 2013, 11:21:06 PM
Graphics update is not in there...yet.
Hope they will fix it soon though.
Title: Re: Consoles Patch #3 Details
Post by: xeno-kaname on Mar 20, 2013, 03:17:53 AM
Well that was fast. Another patch already. Still surprised that the Lurker pounce glitch hasn't been addressed.
Title: Re: Consoles Patch #3 Details
Post by: ignite on Mar 20, 2013, 03:48:33 AM
The lurker glitch should be a priority because it's game breaking,
but I think their heads are hurting to figure out what to save and fix first.  :)
At least I'm happy about the improved AI. They actually feel like aliens now.
I'm curious on how they are going to patch in the graphic improvement on the consoles though.
Title: Re: Consoles Patch #3 Details
Post by: Ash 937 on Mar 20, 2013, 04:25:28 AM
I still haven't bought the game yet.  Gonna probably wait a few more months til it hits rock bottom pricing and then get it on the cheap.  With all these patches it might be a significantly better game by then...or at least worth about $20.
Title: Re: Consoles Patch #3 Details
Post by: WarriorRidged on Mar 20, 2013, 06:15:41 AM
Has it been confirmed or denied if consoles are getting the PC improved graphics?
Title: Re: Consoles Patch #3 Details
Post by: ACR on Mar 20, 2013, 06:39:46 AM
If they were smart, they would focus mostly on multiplayer fixes, the campaign is not the reason why you would want to play this game in the first place. The main reason why anyone is still playing this and it's saving grace is because of it's multiplayer. = P

Some nice fixes I see though otherwise, though I wish the blurry front sights, hit detection issues and pouncing issues were fixed too. = P

Title: Re: Consoles Patch #3 Details
Post by: Hemi on Mar 20, 2013, 08:02:49 AM
Quote from: Makkaveli101 on Mar 20, 2013, 06:15:41 AM
Has it been confirmed or denied if consoles are getting the PC improved graphics?

GBX labelled it as a PC Specific update. Why? Because consoles have a retarded file-size limit for patches, so don't expect it ever to come to the consoles...unless they offer it as a DLC option. (and that would mean spending money on a game that isn't doing very well... What to choose...Borderlands 2 DLC or Aliens DLC. I think GBX made up their minds already  :-X )
Title: Re: Consoles Patch #3 Details
Post by: PRI. HUDSON on Mar 20, 2013, 08:08:55 AM
Starting to think a high-res texture pack is a pipe dream.
Title: Re: Consoles Patch #3 Details
Post by: Gren_86 on Mar 20, 2013, 09:01:02 AM
It would be nice to see proper hit detection and weapon sway response.   
Title: Re: Consoles Patch #3 Details
Post by: Space Voyager on Mar 20, 2013, 02:22:07 PM
Quote from: Ash 937 on Mar 20, 2013, 04:25:28 AM
Gonna probably wait a few more months til it hits rock bottom pricing and then get it on the cheap.

If ever, than this.
Title: Re: Consoles Patch #3 Details
Post by: Killa-Hawke on Mar 20, 2013, 04:04:41 PM
Quote from: Space Voyager on Mar 20, 2013, 02:22:07 PM
Quote from: Ash 937 on Mar 20, 2013, 04:25:28 AM
Gonna probably wait a few more months til it hits rock bottom pricing and then get it on the cheap.

If ever, than this.
I was at game Stop the other day and they were selling A:CM brand new for $34.99
Title: Re: Consoles Patch #3 Details
Post by: JokersWarPig on Mar 20, 2013, 04:07:33 PM
The Alien AI in campaign does seem to be improved a lot. The warriors are actually "dodging" my bullets more often than not like they would in AVP2010, and they're also taking cover like the lurkers do every now and again as well.

EDIT
This is actually VERY common on soldier difficulty. This patch will probably make the campaign replayable for me. I've only played Hope At Hadleys since beating it on ultimate bad ass.
Title: Re: Consoles Patch #3 Details
Post by: PRI. HUDSON on Mar 20, 2013, 04:35:59 PM
Quote from: JokersWarPig on Mar 20, 2013, 04:07:33 PM
The Alien AI in campaign does seem to be improved a lot. The warriors are actually "dodging" my bullets more often than not like they would in AVP2010, and they're also taking cover like the lurkers do every now and again as well.

EDIT
This is actually VERY common on soldier difficulty. This patch will probably make the campaign replayable for me. I've only played Hope At Hadleys since beating it on ultimate bad ass.

Beat 2 of the 3 levels on recruit. The level on the ship was a joke but Tribute was a total pain in the balls.
Title: Re: Consoles Patch #3 Details
Post by: Six-String-Samurai on Mar 20, 2013, 11:10:26 PM
The difference in just the AI alone in crazy. the aliens actually feel like aliens now and as a result I'm dying a lot more frequently, even on soldier. Its awesome, although a graphics patch wouldn't go a miss. 
Title: Re: Consoles Patch #3 Details
Post by: Vezner on Mar 21, 2013, 04:27:22 AM
Agreed. This patch, with the AI improvements, greatly enhances ACM. Add in Bug Hunt and we have one hell of a fun Aliens game on our hands.
Title: Re: Consoles Patch #3 Details
Post by: Xenomorphine on Mar 21, 2013, 04:38:33 AM
Quote from: ACR on Mar 20, 2013, 06:39:46 AM
If they were smart, they would focus mostly on multiplayer fixes, the campaign is not the reason why you would want to play this game in the first place. The main reason why anyone is still playing this and it's saving grace is because of it's multiplayer. = P

For people who haven't bought it - who are its primary target - the single-player campaign should have been why people wanted to play it.

Multiplayer for most games only has a finite life expectancy, in any case.
Title: Re: Consoles Patch #3 Details
Post by: PsyKore on Mar 21, 2013, 06:01:37 AM
Quote from: Gren_86 on Mar 20, 2013, 09:01:02 AM
It would be nice to see proper hit detection and weapon sway response.

This is something I'd like to see as well. I feel like it's overlooked, for some reason. The weapon sway is just retarded.
Title: Re: Consoles Patch #3 Details
Post by: Xenomrph on Mar 21, 2013, 07:53:39 AM
Quote from: PsyKore on Mar 21, 2013, 06:01:37 AM
Quote from: Gren_86 on Mar 20, 2013, 09:01:02 AM
It would be nice to see proper hit detection and weapon sway response.

This is something I'd like to see as well. I feel like it's overlooked, for some reason. The weapon sway is just retarded.
Could you elaborate on what you mean?
Title: Re: Consoles Patch #3 Details
Post by: PRJ_since1990 on Mar 21, 2013, 02:44:18 PM
Quote from: Xenomorphine on Mar 21, 2013, 04:38:33 AM
Quote from: ACR on Mar 20, 2013, 06:39:46 AM
If they were smart, they would focus mostly on multiplayer fixes, the campaign is not the reason why you would want to play this game in the first place. The main reason why anyone is still playing this and it's saving grace is because of it's multiplayer. = P

For people who haven't bought it - who are its primary target - the single-player campaign should have been why people wanted to play it.

Multiplayer for most games only has a finite life expectancy, in any case.

This. Being a huge Aliens fan, I was going to buy this regardless of the inclusion of multiplayer. Half the time I feel like multiplayer ruins some games that should never have it in the first place (dead space2). Co-op is a bigger seller for me since I know most games that come out have a multiplayer that's short lived and forgotten (and you can never unlock those achievements >:( )
Title: Re: Consoles Patch #3 Details
Post by: PRI. HUDSON on Mar 21, 2013, 03:19:31 PM
Quote from: PRJ_since1990 on Mar 21, 2013, 02:44:18 PM
Quote from: Xenomorphine on Mar 21, 2013, 04:38:33 AM
Quote from: ACR on Mar 20, 2013, 06:39:46 AM
If they were smart, they would focus mostly on multiplayer fixes, the campaign is not the reason why you would want to play this game in the first place. The main reason why anyone is still playing this and it's saving grace is because of it's multiplayer. = P

For people who haven't bought it - who are its primary target - the single-player campaign should have been why people wanted to play it.

Multiplayer for most games only has a finite life expectancy, in any case.



This. Being a huge Aliens fan, I was going to buy this regardless of the inclusion of multiplayer. Half the time I feel like multiplayer ruins some games that should never have it in the first place (dead space2). Co-op is a bigger seller for me since I know most games that come out have a multiplayer that's short lived and forgotten (and you can never unlock those achievements >:( )

MP achievements piss me off, a lot.
Title: Re: Consoles Patch #3 Details
Post by: Njm1983 on Mar 21, 2013, 05:43:01 PM
Got the chance to try the new patch out, and the AI is much improved the aliens run and dodge when under fire, try to flank and really utilize walls and tops of objects and structures.

I think the hit detection needs an update too. just seems like whatever youre shooting at has a box around them, and anything hitting the box counts as a hit, so even when shots are fired between legs or the arm and torso it still registers a hit.
Title: Re: Consoles Patch #3 Details
Post by: I Come In Peace on Mar 21, 2013, 06:54:42 PM
I hope they increase the damage from acid blood in the next patch, you shouldn't be able to walk away after shoot an alien close range with a shotgun.


I would also like it if they remove the quick time event on the facehugger encounters and make it instant death. That would make it more suspenseful.
Title: Re: Consoles Patch #3 Details
Post by: PRI. HUDSON on Mar 21, 2013, 10:27:57 PM
Quote from: I Come In Peace on Mar 21, 2013, 06:54:42 PM
I hope they increase the damage from acid blood in the next patch, you shouldn't be able to walk away after shoot an alien close range with a shotgun.


I would also like it if they remove the quick time event on the facehugger encounters and make it instant death. That would make it more suspenseful.

AVP99 made me nearly piss myself as a teenager.
Title: Re: Consoles Patch #3 Details
Post by: FightFinda on Mar 21, 2013, 11:31:38 PM
Really happy about the positive response from the fans on this second patch since I only ordered the game off Amazon (brand spanking new, limited edition for a whopping £22 by the way) a couple of hours ago. The funny thing is, I only found out about this new patch AFTER I ordered the game! Fate seems to have smiled on me there since I went through quite a bit of a mental debate on whether to make the order, until I just thought f*ck it - I'm going to end up buying it at some point anyway, so I might as well make the order now in case the price goes up, after all, "It's the only way to be sure" ;)

So I should hopefully be rescuing some colonist daughters from their virginity with the rest and best of you dolts in few, long days! XD
Title: Re: Consoles Patch #3 Details
Post by: Njm1983 on Mar 22, 2013, 12:04:36 AM
Seems the lurker now has a glitch when they pounce. The player who was pounced seems to be inside the lurkers face.
Other than that. Game is improved.
Title: Re: Consoles Patch #3 Details
Post by: 9th_Stew on Mar 22, 2013, 08:20:15 AM
Is this crap worth buying for PC now, or is it still not worth the bother??
Title: Re: Consoles Patch #3 Details
Post by: PRI. HUDSON on Mar 22, 2013, 11:21:03 AM
Quote from: 9th_Stew on Mar 22, 2013, 08:20:15 AM
Is this crap worth buying for PC now, or is it still not worth the bother??

It's gotten patches and a visual upgrade. I bet it's better NOW than it was then.
Title: Re: Consoles Patch #3 Details
Post by: Predator Lord on Mar 22, 2013, 04:56:59 PM
So now is it worth buying?
Title: Re: Consoles Patch #3 Details
Post by: Aceburster on Mar 22, 2013, 06:33:04 PM
If you can get the vanilla game somewhere for 29.99 you shouldnt feel bad about it at all.
Title: Re: Consoles Patch #3 Details
Post by: PRI. HUDSON on Mar 22, 2013, 06:59:09 PM
Quote from: Predator Lord on Mar 22, 2013, 04:56:59 PM
So now is it worth buying?

If you can get it for 30, I don't think that's a bad deal at all. I've put some hours on my copy. Between SP, MP, Bug Hunt, and achievement hunting.
Title: Re: Consoles Patch #3 Details
Post by: PRJ_since1990 on Mar 23, 2013, 01:57:00 PM
Even for the super cool edition bro package which I preordered, I still feel like the game was worth it, especially now that we're getting patches and support. I just hate the fact that between work and time with the gf, I barely have time to play it. But when I do, I mostly play at night. Mostly...
Title: Re: Consoles Patch #3 Details
Post by: x-M-x on Mar 23, 2013, 03:21:10 PM
I got mine for £15 -  $22 BRAND NEW SEALED  :D  :D  :D

Gotta love imports. (no way in hell am i paying 40+ for a game like this lol
Title: Re: Consoles Patch #3 Details
Post by: PRI. HUDSON on Mar 23, 2013, 03:52:46 PM
Quote from: PRJ_since1990 on Mar 23, 2013, 01:57:00 PM
Even for the super cool edition bro package which I preordered, I still feel like the game was worth it, especially now that we're getting patches and support. I just hate the fact that between work and time with the gf, I barely have time to play it. But when I do, I mostly play at night. Mostly...

They mostly come at night, mostly.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wKdocYeSqTA# (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wKdocYeSqTA#)
Title: Re: Consoles Patch #3 Details
Post by: Six-String-Samurai on Mar 23, 2013, 10:30:10 PM
Quote from: PRI. HUDSON on Mar 23, 2013, 03:52:46 PM
Quote from: PRJ_since1990 on Mar 23, 2013, 01:57:00 PM
Even for the super cool edition bro package which I preordered, I still feel like the game was worth it, especially now that we're getting patches and support. I just hate the fact that between work and time with the gf, I barely have time to play it. But when I do, I mostly play at night. Mostly...

They mostly come at night, mostly.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wKdocYeSqTA# (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wKdocYeSqTA#)



Love it!  ;D
Title: Question about the console patch
Post by: JPredator on Mar 25, 2013, 11:07:40 AM
Can anyone tell me what the game is like in terms of enemy AI and difficulty after this patch?

Thinking about re-purchasing it second hand.

Thanks
Title: Re: Question about the console patch
Post by: SDR on Mar 25, 2013, 11:48:50 AM
Quote from: JPredator on Mar 25, 2013, 11:07:40 AM
Can anyone tell me what the game is like in terms of enemy AI and difficulty after this patch?

Thinking about re-purchasing it second hand.

Thanks

Don't bother, it's just a small improvement nothing more, also i just read at GBX forums that the visuals will stay the same and i just regret that i didn't immediately sold it and waited for a update fix.
Title: Re: Question about the console patch
Post by: Samus007 on Mar 25, 2013, 12:51:09 PM
Quote from: SDR on Mar 25, 2013, 11:48:50 AM
Quote from: JPredator on Mar 25, 2013, 11:07:40 AM
Can anyone tell me what the game is like in terms of enemy AI and difficulty after this patch?

Thinking about re-purchasing it second hand.

Thanks

Don't bother, it's just a small improvement nothing more, also i just read at GBX forums that the visuals will stay the same and i just regret that i didn't immediately sold it and waited for a update fix.

Yeah this, http://forums.gearboxsoftware.com/showthread.php?t=261352&page=2 (http://forums.gearboxsoftware.com/showthread.php?t=261352&page=2)

To say the consoles can't handle the "memory requirements of the PC texture update" is just another BS excuse from GBX imo. Just about every single FPS game from 2007 to this very minute look better than ACM, especially in the texture dept. From COD: Modern Warfare to Battlefield(all) and so on. Even if the "PC textures" are not something that can be done on consoles, some sort of texture/lighting update needs to come to consoles.

I will forever hate Randy and GBX for showing us a demo that was never something real.
Title: Re: Question about the console patch
Post by: JPredator on Mar 25, 2013, 01:28:31 PM
thats dissapointing. Was hoping for an AI overhaul that would change the gameplay significantly.

Thanks for the replies.
Title: Re: Consoles Patch #3 Details
Post by: ikarop on Mar 25, 2013, 04:31:14 PM
https://twitter.com/DuvalMagic/status/316208697208614912
Title: Re: Consoles Patch #3 Details
Post by: underbound on Mar 25, 2013, 05:10:15 PM
Is it worth it over all? im banned and i know how to put patches on but before i do is it worth the space?
Title: Re: Consoles Patch #3 Details
Post by: JokersWarPig on Mar 25, 2013, 10:41:30 PM
Quote from: ikarop on Mar 25, 2013, 04:31:14 PM
https://twitter.com/DuvalMagic/status/316208697208614912

Well f**k me right?
Title: Re: Consoles Patch #3 Details
Post by: TheRaven on Mar 30, 2013, 12:38:07 AM
Nice to see the AI being adjusted.

I hope they address the Luker's pounce glitch in the next patch.
Title: Re: Consoles Patch #3 Details
Post by: Takhen on Mar 30, 2013, 02:13:20 PM
The AI can be tweaked, but what they promised of dynamic AI and getting pre-defined path AI is a big letdown...
Title: Re: Consoles Patch #3 Details
Post by: Inverse Effect on Apr 02, 2013, 04:55:53 AM
Do you still clip through npcs?