Hi guys.
I was lucky enough to get my hands on the game a bit early and managed to complete all three campaigns.
I know a lot of people here are still curious about a lot of stuff, whether it's gameplay or story related, so I'm willing to answer any question regarding SP :)
If your question is related to the storyline, be sure to use spoiler tags to preserve other members.
I will also use tags to answer such questions.
Quote from: WeaN on Feb 14, 2010, 03:37:48 PM
I was lucky enough to get my hands on the game a bit early
how did you manage that?
Quote from: S.Y.L on Feb 14, 2010, 03:38:49 PM
Quote from: WeaN on Feb 14, 2010, 03:37:48 PM
I was lucky enough to get my hands on the game a bit early
how did you manage that?
It's already in some stores in america, but they can only do SP not mp because the servers aint up yet. ;)
i just wanna know how long is it in hours ?
Quote from: AMC_Duke on Feb 14, 2010, 03:47:08 PM
i just wanna know how long is it in hours ?
I second that. Also what are the bosses? Is it happy?
Many in germany allready got it, cause early delivering (you have to import it).
If you got the PC-Version i would like to know, if the controls/movement are smoother and the 10meter-meleeattacks are still there.
My question will be: Is it really as dark as rebellion said it is, is it as dark as the sp trailer we saw. Are ALL the maps like that or are there some maps with suddenly allot of light where you have to fight a king pred or something? :)
Quote from: Predator:o:95 on Feb 14, 2010, 05:13:33 PM
Quote from: AMC_Duke on Feb 14, 2010, 03:47:08 PM
i just wanna know how long is it in hours ?
I second that. Also what are the bosses? Is it happy?
Quote from: Baasje92 on Feb 14, 2010, 05:15:39 PM
My question will be: Is it really as dark as rebellion said it is, is it as dark as the sp trailer we saw. Are ALL the maps like that or are there some maps with suddenly allot of light where you have to fight a king pred or something? :)
Is it a scary game? as well as those questions obove please
:)
Quote from: AMC_Duke on Feb 14, 2010, 03:47:08 PM
i just wanna know how long is it in hours ?
Took me around 6 hours to complete the Marine Campaign on Hard.
But I think it might differ a little depending on your own skills at this type of game.
Quote from: Predator:o:95 on Feb 14, 2010, 05:13:33 PMAlso what are the bosses? Is it happy?
Hm. I could tell what the bosses are, but it's definitely gonna be a big spoiler. I wouldn't recommend reading it if you wanna keep it a surprise :
Spoiler
1st boss is the Queen
2nd boss is a Predator
3rd boss is a Praetorian
4th and last boss is Karl Weyland.
Quote from: hardwired on Feb 14, 2010, 05:14:31 PM
If you got the PC-Version i would like to know, if the controls/movement are smoother and the 10meter-meleeattacks are still there.
Sorry. Xbox 360 here :(
Quote from: Predator:o:95 on Feb 14, 2010, 05:17:17 PM
Is it a scary game? as well as those questions obove please
:)
Hm... Hard to be objective on that matter. It will depend on people, but I did find the first levels to be quite scary, since they feel so much like
AliensYour first encounters with the Xenos will creep you for sure.
Then, as you progress through the game, it obviously wears out, and they become mere targets for your pulse rifle. At least that's how I felt.
How does it compare to AvP2's Marine campaign if you played it?
Was is it easy? I watched a guy playing on a stream an between him being able to just rifle bash the Aliens to stun them whenever they got close an auto grabbing face huggers it looked like it would be too easy. Compared to the old AvP anyway which was kind of scary just because of how fast an dangerous the Aliens were.
Quote from: WeaN on Feb 14, 2010, 05:24:45 PM
Quote from: AMC_Duke on Feb 14, 2010, 03:47:08 PM
i just wanna know how long is it in hours ?
Took me around 6 hours to complete the Marine Campaign on Hard.
But I think it might differ a little depending on your own skills at this type of game.
Quote from: Predator:o:95 on Feb 14, 2010, 05:13:33 PMAlso what are the bosses? Is it happy?
Hm. I could tell what the bosses are, but it's definitely gonna be a big spoiler. I wouldn't recommend reading it if you wanna keep it a surprise :
Spoiler
1st boss is the Queen
2nd boss is a Predator
3rd boss is a Praetorian
4th and last boss is Karl Weyland.
Quote from: hardwired on Feb 14, 2010, 05:14:31 PM
If you got the PC-Version i would like to know, if the controls/movement are smoother and the 10meter-meleeattacks are still there.
Sorry. Xbox 360 here :(
Quote from: Predator:o:95 on Feb 14, 2010, 05:17:17 PM
Is it a scary game? as well as those questions obove please
:)
Hm... Hard to be objective on that matter. It will depend on people, but I did find the first levels to be quite scary, since they feel so much like Aliens
Your first encounters with the Xenos will creep you for sure.
Then, as you progress through the game, it obviously wears out, and they become mere targets for your pulse rifle. At least that's how I felt.
Read the bosses. Nothing really surprising there apart from the last one i didn't think they would meet also i thought you would see one of those bosses more than once. Definatley don't read it in case you want it to be a surprise also i would of thought that list would be back to front if i had read it anywhere else but it obviously isn't it just seems back to front lol.
Also i really wanted the marine to be horror threw out but i suppose it doesn't really matter at least we finally get the game.
Who are all named marines? Are there any unknown main characters? Who dies and who lives?
Do you see #6?
How is the battle with the Predator handled?
How many facehuggers do you see? Do you get to fight them?
Biggest battle scene? Description would be nice!
How many friendly A.I. do you run into?
Do you see a lot of cocooned victims?
How many Marine exclusive achievements do you have?
Any special "wow" moments?
How abundant is ammo for weapons?
Any singleplayer exclusive weapons?
Do you see / ride in / get transported in an APC?
Describe the Alien spit ability. How much damage, how the animation looks, etc.
Any easter eggs? Description if you've found any please.
In your judgement was it a let down
Quote from: Darkness on Feb 14, 2010, 05:29:33 PM
How does it compare to AvP2's Marine campaign if you played it?
Yeah, I did play AvP 2 Marine Campaign back then. I'd say it's pretty similar in the sense that it starts really slow and creepy, taking time to set up each encounter, and escalates gradually into a more action oriented experience. Towards the end, you'll face waves of Xenos at once.
Quote from: Sifer2 on Feb 14, 2010, 05:33:35 PM
Was is it easy? I watched a guy playing on a stream an between him being able to just rifle bash the Aliens to stun them whenever they got close an auto grabbing face huggers it looked like it would be too easy. Compared to the old AvP anyway which was kind of scary just because of how fast an dangerous the Aliens were.
It wasn't so hard to me. Then again, I'm kinda used to console FPSs.
Also, the heavily pronounced aim assist didn't really help making it harder. It basically follows moving targets for you for a sec or two as soon as they appear, so you'd have to be really bad to actually miss.
Only the beginning of the game was tricky cause as most of you probably know already, you start with the pistol only. A single Alien can sustain quite some damage, so I often found myself firing, running past him, get some distance and repeat... that is if I had enough room to do so.
Since you can block and counter just like in MP, as long as you can predict whether the Alien is gonna perform a light or strong attack, you're pretty much safe.
BUT they move a lot, so as soon as you have to deal with a bunch of them in tight environnement, it's gonna require much more creativity. You'll find yourself surrounded quite often.
So yeah. The atmosphere creeped me more than the Xenos themselves. Past the surprise of the first levels, they become mere targets.
Quote from: Predator:o:95 on Feb 14, 2010, 05:34:44 PMi thought you would see one of those bosses more than once.
Well, actually ... you kinda do.
Spoiler
The first Praetorian you'll ever meet will be a boss, but then you'll meet two of them as regular enemies. They seemed to have a bit less health too.
6 hours sounds a little bit short. If reviews are accurate, they indicate that the marine campaign is the longest, with the most substance. Assuming your average gamer is as capable at FPS at the OP, it may only take a weekend to finish the whole game.
IF I get the game, I'll most likely be buying it for the single player initially at least until I get a new graphics card. I hope I don't get through the campaign(s) as quickly as the OP.
Seriously? the last boss is
Spoiler
karl weyland?
How the hell does that work?
Some kind of arkham asylum
Spoiler
super joker treatment?
Before OP confirms I'm going to take some kind of guess that;
Spoiler
He is genetically enhanced by the Royal Jelly, possibly mutated into some weird hybrid
Do I win a prize?
Spoiler
ITS THE ALIEN 3 GAME ALL OVER AGAIN
Spoiler
No, you don't, he's actually pretty easy. But he does grab you, and you shoot him in the head, causing him to fall into magma. So at least he has a decent death. ;)
Quote from: Huol on Feb 14, 2010, 06:05:28 PM
Seriously? the last boss is Spoiler
karl weyland?
How the hell does that work?
Some kind of arkham asylum Spoiler
super joker treatment?
That is why i said if i read that list anywhere else but here i would of thought it would be the other way round because the bosses get less and less dangerous from the start.
Quote from: WeaN on Feb 14, 2010, 05:59:47 PM
Quote from: Predator:o:95 on Feb 14, 2010, 05:34:44 PMi thought you would see one of those bosses more than once.
Well, actually ... you kinda do.
Spoiler
The first Praetorian you'll ever meet will be a boss, but then you'll meet two of them as regular enemies. They seemed to have a bit less health too.
Wow not the boss i was expecting to see twice but you can probably guess which one i was expecting.
I thought it would be the first boss that you would see twice. One at the beginning and one at the end.
Spoiler
Hows the predator boss?
Is it just a straight fight? Or does it
Spoiler
play with you like a real predator.
I'm semi-troubled by that first boss, I hope it's kind of epic.
according to a guy on youtube each campaign can be finished in 1-2 hours... is that true?? if so thats a serious disapointment..
Quote from: VEF214 on Feb 14, 2010, 05:49:48 PM
Who are all named marines? Are there any unknown main characters? Who dies and who lives?
Do you see #6?
How is the battle with the Predator handled?
How many facehuggers do you see? Do you get to fight them?
Biggest battle scene? Description would be nice!
How many friendly A.I. do you run into?
Do you see a lot of cocooned victims?
How many Marine exclusive achievements do you have?
Any special "wow" moments?
How abundant is ammo for weapons?
Any singleplayer exclusive weapons?
Do you see / ride in / get transported in an APC?
Describe the Alien spit ability. How much damage, how the animation looks, etc.
Any easter eggs? Description if you've found any please.
Quote from: GrimyGhost on Feb 14, 2010, 06:20:08 PM
according to a guy on youtube each campaign can be finished in 1-2 hours... is that true?? if so thats a serious disapointment..
Seriously talk about paying 60 bucks for a small amount of game. grrr.
Quote from: GrimyGhost on Feb 14, 2010, 06:20:08 PM
according to a guy on youtube each campaign can be finished in 1-2 hours... is that true?? if so thats a serious disapointment..
Meh..almost anything can be finished that fast if you zoom trough it and dont take your time with everything. + play on easy. Mass Effect 2 is arround 80hours but people can finish it in 6hours... Same goes for alot of games. It all depends on how much you ignore.
Quote from: Zephon on Feb 14, 2010, 06:23:16 PM
Quote from: GrimyGhost on Feb 14, 2010, 06:20:08 PM
according to a guy on youtube each campaign can be finished in 1-2 hours... is that true?? if so thats a serious disapointment..
Meh..almost anything can be finished that fast if you zoom trough it and dont take your time with everything. + play on easy. Mass Effect 2 is arround 80hours but people can finish it in 6hours... Same goes for alot of games. It all depends on how much you ignore.
there was no rushing involved, he was on medium... he did campaign play throughs on youtube
Quote from: GrimyGhost on Feb 14, 2010, 06:25:35 PM
Quote from: Zephon on Feb 14, 2010, 06:23:16 PM
Quote from: GrimyGhost on Feb 14, 2010, 06:20:08 PM
according to a guy on youtube each campaign can be finished in 1-2 hours... is that true?? if so thats a serious disapointment..
Meh..almost anything can be finished that fast if you zoom trough it and dont take your time with everything. + play on easy. Mass Effect 2 is arround 80hours but people can finish it in 6hours... Same goes for alot of games. It all depends on how much you ignore.
there was no rushing involved, he was on medium... he did campaign play throughs on youtube
Link?
Quote from: GrimyGhost on Feb 14, 2010, 06:25:35 PM
Quote from: Zephon on Feb 14, 2010, 06:23:16 PM
Quote from: GrimyGhost on Feb 14, 2010, 06:20:08 PM
according to a guy on youtube each campaign can be finished in 1-2 hours... is that true?? if so thats a serious disapointment..
Meh..almost anything can be finished that fast if you zoom trough it and dont take your time with everything. + play on easy. Mass Effect 2 is arround 80hours but people can finish it in 6hours... Same goes for alot of games. It all depends on how much you ignore.
there was no rushing involved, he was on medium... he did campaign play throughs on youtube
fck. It's obvious what games are good and what makes them good why the hell can we not get it lol.
grr
Quote from: VEF214 on Feb 14, 2010, 06:26:01 PM
Quote from: GrimyGhost on Feb 14, 2010, 06:25:35 PM
Quote from: Zephon on Feb 14, 2010, 06:23:16 PM
Quote from: GrimyGhost on Feb 14, 2010, 06:20:08 PM
according to a guy on youtube each campaign can be finished in 1-2 hours... is that true?? if so thats a serious disapointment..
Meh..almost anything can be finished that fast if you zoom trough it and dont take your time with everything. + play on easy. Mass Effect 2 is arround 80hours but people can finish it in 6hours... Same goes for alot of games. It all depends on how much you ignore.
there was no rushing involved, he was on medium... he did campaign play throughs on youtube
Link?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yv3NVeuA8sU
I am very troubled at the first boss. I was expecting it to appear twice but i think it i will have to be epic or it has to be really long to justify it being right at the beggining. If i was rebellion i would swap the first and last bosses but obviously I'm not and i don't know the story but to make that last boss work it will have to be really epic otherwise it will be a stupid order for the bosses to be in imo. Because the least dangerous boss is last. I don't know in what concept so i can't really comment but apart from the bosses the marine campaign sounds amazing.
BTW the bosses aren't bad. There amazing its just that i think it would of been better in a different order that is all.
You don't pay 60 bucks for the campaign, but the multiplayer, which is the core of the game. ;)
Quote from: Predator:o:95 on Feb 14, 2010, 06:30:08 PM
BTW the bosses aren't bad. There amazing its just that i think it would of been better in a different order that is all.
agreed
Quote from: Hive Tyrant on Feb 14, 2010, 06:31:33 PM
You don't pay 60 bucks for the campaign, but the multiplayer, which is the core of the game. ;)
actually i pay for sp with my money, mp is something to do once i complete it, and rebellion have never staitd that the main feature of the game was mp..
Quote from: GrimyGhost on Feb 14, 2010, 06:20:08 PM
according to a guy on youtube each campaign can be finished in 1-2 hours... is that true?? if so thats a serious disapointment..
wean said that it took him 6 hours on hard, so i'll take your/that guy's version on youtube as a huge bulshit
So, my question:
What about those facehuggers, they insta-kill you like the old days or you insta-grab them like in the trailer, or is it a grab-but-fail move?
(yeah, I don't make much sense) :P
Quote from: spychi on Feb 14, 2010, 06:35:55 PM
Quote from: GrimyGhost on Feb 14, 2010, 06:20:08 PM
according to a guy on youtube each campaign can be finished in 1-2 hours... is that true?? if so thats a serious disapointment..
wean said that it took him 6 hours on hard, so i'll take your/that guy's on youtube as a huge bulshit
i would love too, but its kinda hard to when you watch the vids.
Quote from: spychi on Feb 14, 2010, 06:35:55 PM
Quote from: GrimyGhost on Feb 14, 2010, 06:20:08 PM
according to a guy on youtube each campaign can be finished in 1-2 hours... is that true?? if so thats a serious disapointment..
wean said that it took him 6 hours on hard, so i'll take your/that guy's on youtube as a huge bulshit
i don't think it is bullshit all the reviews have said marine is the longest campaign and that aliens is shortest
and wean has only played marine so it probably is different campaigns that there on
do u ever meet the predalien?
Quote from: VEF214 on Feb 14, 2010, 05:49:48 PM
Who are all named marines? Are there any unknown main characters? Who dies and who lives?
Spoiler
Only Tequila plays a big part, really. The others are just canon fodder and die real quick. I don't remember any of the other Marines getting fleshed out actually, except her and another guy named Van something you had to rescue but by the time you make it to him he's already been cocooned... you get to choose whether to shoot him before the chestburster comes out or not.
Quote from: VEF214 on Feb 14, 2010, 05:49:48 PMDo you see #6?
Spoiler
No you don't.
Quote from: VEF214 on Feb 14, 2010, 05:49:48 PMHow is the battle with the Predator handled?
With style :
Spoiler
He ambushes you as you try to enter a small cabin, but your character cancels his trophy kills and slides down to a small arena kind of place. You then have a showdown with the Pred.
The fight basically goes like this :
The Pred keeps on trying to shoot you from above with his plasma caster. You get to shoot at him if you manage to spot him (sniper rifle helps a lot). He has two health bars ... a blue one that works like the shield from Halo and a red one. Once you shoot him enough to deplete the blue bar, he'll try to hide and use his medicomp. We he does, that's your only chance to shoot and deplete his red health bar, before he recharges the blue one. Once you shoot all of his red health bar, he's done for.
He will try to come close and personal when his health is low, but if you played the demo and know how to block/counter attack it won't be a threat at all and he'll just run away like a bitch.
Quote from: VEF214 on Feb 14, 2010, 05:49:48 PMHow many facehuggers do you see? Do you get to fight them?
Yeah you'll face many of them. Sometimes they come out of eggs, sometimes they just lurk in dark places.
You can also shoot the eggs before they come out and save you the trouble.
Quote from: VEF214 on Feb 14, 2010, 05:49:48 PMBiggest battle scene? Description would be nice!
It's a matter of tastes, but to me, the best encounters are probably the 2nd and 3rd bosses, which are ...
Spoiler
The Pred and Praetorian fights.
I already described the Pred one.
You meet the Praetorian in the research facility. That thing is huge... probably half as huge as a Queen. It first appears by itself, then, it will start screaming to call for regular Aliens to fight you, while it remains in the distance. It will also sometimes come close to you or try to ram you with its Queen shaped head.
A single melee hit from the Preatorian will throw you down helpless, and it will usually finish you with its claws. It doesn't seem to have trophy kills, unlike regular Aliens.
Quote from: VEF214 on Feb 14, 2010, 05:49:48 PMHow many friendly A.I. do you run into?
Spoiler
Not much. Once in the jungle, you'll meet a lone dude shouting insults at Aliens (kinda like Cole in the first Gears of War but by the time you get to him, a Brown Alien (Runner) spits acid at him and he dies. The whole scene is to introduce Brown Aliens.
You also meet up with two Marines when you get to the Ruins, and together you try to repell a few waves of Aliens, but they eventually get killed too.
You then meet a single Marine by the temple, but he gets killed quickly too.
Later on, you have to rescue a cocooned Tequila. You get to free her and backtrack by her side. You get attacked by Aliens, but she can't die (at least didn't seem so to me, or she can sustain A LOT of damage) so it's not so hard.
Quote from: VEF214 on Feb 14, 2010, 05:49:48 PMDo you see a lot of cocooned victims?
Spoiler
Around a dozen. Dead already most of the time, at the exception of Tequila and mister Van something guy.
Quote from: VEF214 on Feb 14, 2010, 05:49:48 PMHow many Marine exclusive achievements do you have?
Not much so far. I got the Kill 10 enemies with head shots from the scoped rifle one, cause that thing is really handy in open environnements. It deals a lot of damage too, you can usually kill Aliens in one body shot.
Quote from: VEF214 on Feb 14, 2010, 05:49:48 PMAny special "wow" moments?
A few. But if you're used to this kind of game, you'll expect it most of the time. Having played and completed
Dead Space more than once, it takes a lot to actually startle me.
I did go wow when the 3rd boss appeared, though. Didn't expect that.
Quote from: VEF214 on Feb 14, 2010, 05:49:48 PMHow abundant is ammo for weapons?
I never ran out. You'll find these white ammo boxes often, either lying on the ground or by a Marine's body. As long as you don't shoot half your clip in the air during encounters, you're safe, really.
Quote from: VEF214 on Feb 14, 2010, 05:49:48 PMAny singleplayer exclusive weapons?
None. If you played the demo then that's it.
Smartgun has much more ammo in SP though. You even get to reload the thing.
Quote from: VEF214 on Feb 14, 2010, 05:49:48 PMDo you see / ride in / get transported in an APC?
Nope.
Quote from: VEF214 on Feb 14, 2010, 05:49:48 PMDescribe the Alien spit ability. How much damage, how the animation looks, etc.
Oh yeah, that one.
Regular warriors (skin from the demo) don't spit. But eventually you'll come across Brown Aliens (some might like to call it Runner since its design is so close to the Xeno from the 3rd movie) that can spit acid.
Unlike warriors, they tend to keep at range and sometimes they'll spit at you... if you played
Halo, imagine a Wraith mortar, except it's smaller and so slow you'll have plenty of time to dodge it. I only got hit once or twice cause I was zooming with the rifle and didn't see it coming.
It doesn't deal much damage even on Hard.
Quote from: VEF214 on Feb 14, 2010, 05:49:48 PMAny easter eggs? Description if you've found any please.
There's definitely a few, but right now I can't recall all of them. You'll get obvious references to the movies in some lines, like "how can they cut the power ?" and stuff.
The first levels are an easter egg themselves since they look like the setting from
Aliens so much. You'll basically go through everything the characters from the movie experienced. Fans will enjoy that.
Quote from: XLRDALLAS on Feb 14, 2010, 05:52:31 PM
In your judgement was it a let down
I really enjoy the first half of the game ... the gameplay is solid, the Xenos look awesome and the environnements aren't breath taking, but they are good enough for what it is. Very faitful to the atmosphere from the movies (
Aliens,
Predator and the first AvP movie).
What I didn't like is the fact you get more mindless action as you go, at the expense of atmosphere.
Also, I won't go into details to avoid spoiling, but towards the last third of the game (well, the Marine Campaign at least), you get to fight less and less Xenos, which I didn't like. What you fight instead is much less fun to face, and feels clunky because of the Marine gameplay which is obviously more aimed at fighting Xenos.
I found the plot a bit weak, but I'll wait till I complete the two other Campaign to emit a final judgment. But to be honest, anybody expecting a deep plot in this kind of game are luring themselves.
Quote from: Porkus Maximus on Feb 14, 2010, 06:03:19 PM
6 hours sounds a little bit short. If reviews are accurate, they indicate that the marine campaign is the longest, with the most substance. Assuming your average gamer is as capable at FPS at the OP, it may only take a weekend to finish the whole game.
I'm afraid you're probably right.
I took me a bit less than the whole afternoon to complete the Marine SP. I did die a few times during the first encounters... but once you get the hang of it, only the bosses will pose a real threat, until you actually get the mechanics of the fight.
Quote from: Huol on Feb 14, 2010, 06:05:28 PM
Seriously? the last boss is Spoiler
karl weyland?
How the hell does that work?
Some kind of arkham asylum Spoiler
super joker treatment?
Hum.... be prepared for a big spoiler sir :
Spoiler
Karl is actually a cyborg (lol what a twist) and you fight him inside the Pyramid... he has a huge health bar and a really nasty shotgun that almost acts like a sniper rifle since it deals a lot of damage even from afar. I had troubles at first... the fight would just start then he would come at me and kill me in a few shots.
But once you realize you can stun him each time you shoot at him with your shotgun, you can just shoot, hide, shoot, etc.
Quote from: Porkus Maximus on Feb 14, 2010, 06:11:14 PM
Before OP confirms I'm going to take some kind of guess that;
Spoiler
He is genetically enhanced by the Royal Jelly, possibly mutated into some weird hybrid
Do I win a prize?
No you don't. Check the previous spoiler :)
Then again ... maybe there's a bit of that. It's not actually explained, only hinted at.
But one thing's for sure :
Spoiler
He spits white blood and makes metallic sounds when getting shot at.
Quote from: Huol on Feb 14, 2010, 06:16:03 PM
Spoiler
Hows the predator boss?
Is it just a straight fight? Or does it Spoiler
play with you like a real predator.
Already explained that fight above, in response to VEF214's question :)
Quote from: GrimyGhost on Feb 14, 2010, 06:20:08 PM
according to a guy on youtube each campaign can be finished in 1-2 hours... is that true?? if so thats a serious disapointment..
Yeah it's probably possible if you play on Normal or below and if you know it already for beating it at least once before.
I just took my time to admire the scenery or move slowly in dark corridors... you know. To actually enjoy the thing ?
Quote from: Ghost Rider LSOV on Feb 14, 2010, 06:37:53 PM
So, my question:
What about those facehuggers, they insta-kill you like the old days or you insta-grab them like in the trailer, or is it a grab-but-fail move?
(yeah, I don't make much sense) :P
If you have close to full health, you insta grab them just like in the trailer. But you'll lose about 90% of your health (at least that's how it is on Hard).
If they get to you once more ... it's game over man.
Quote from: WeaN on Feb 14, 2010, 06:51:39 PM
If you have close to full health, you insta grab them just like in the trailer. But you'll lose about 90% of your health (at least that's how it is on Hard).
If they get to you once more ... it's game over man.
I see.
If you grab one, you lose most health and then drop it down to shoot it?
In your opinion wean do you think the bosses are back to front because the list u gave us looks like it should be
Spoiler
queen last and karl first
obviously it is not but do you think it suits the story?
Quote from: Ghost Rider LSOV on Feb 14, 2010, 07:02:20 PM
I see.
If you grab one, you lose most health and then drop it down to shoot it?
Yeah, you grab it and repell the first assault, it gets back on the ground and you're free to do whatever you want (shoot it, run away...).
Quote from: Predator:o:95 on Feb 14, 2010, 07:05:11 PM
In your opinion wean do you think the bosses are back to front because the list u gave us looks like it should be Spoiler
queen last and karl first
Hm... the last boss does suit the story, since...
Spoiler
Karl is portrayed as the bad guy .... the guy behind everything, you need to stop him to keep everyone safe etc. That kind of thing.
The first boss COULD be a let down in the sense that you don't actually get to attack it directly. More like scripted events you have to complete in order to win the fight.
:O that was the boss i was most looking forward to firing hundreds of rounds into. Shame hopefully bosses 2 and 3 (maybe 4 depending on how it is handled like straight up fight or qte.) Will be a saving point for the bosses.
Have you seen any multiplayer maps based off of the campaign?
Do the storylines ever cross over?
Like in the alien campaign on avp2 you can see the player predator at one point.
Well, I just finished the marine campain also (On hard). I can help out a little with questions.
The campains last quote is carzy!
Quote from: Agent-Kiwi on Feb 14, 2010, 07:27:52 PM
Well, I just finished the marine campain also (On hard). I can help out a little with questions.
The campains last quote is carzy!
What was the quote? (without spoiling anything please if possible)
Quote from: Asian Assassin on Feb 14, 2010, 06:48:38 PM
do u ever meet the predalien?
Not in the marine campain.
And for the guy asking about #6: He's mentioned in one of the tapes you have to collect.
Also who says that quote also does your character speak in some fps they do in most they don't i prefer it when they do more imersive.
Quote from: 3volved on Feb 14, 2010, 07:29:13 PM
What was the quote? (without spoiling anything please if possible)
Can't remember the exact quote but it was something like...
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We've found out the coordinates of the xenomorphs homeplanet.
Quote from: Agent-Kiwi on Feb 14, 2010, 07:33:31 PM
Quote from: 3volved on Feb 14, 2010, 07:29:13 PM
What was the quote? (without spoiling anything please if possible)
Can't remember the exact quote but it was something like...
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We've found out the coordinates of the xenomorphs homeplanet.
I can tell some parts of this storyline are going to annoy me...
Quote from: Predator:o:95 on Feb 14, 2010, 07:32:28 PM
Also who says that quote also does your character speak in some fps they do in most they don't i prefer it when they do more imersive.
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C.B. Weyland
says it.
No, you never hear your character speak. Acutally, I didn't even know he was black till the last sequenz.
Quote from: Huol on Feb 14, 2010, 07:35:18 PM
I can tell some parts of this storyline are going to annoy me...
Don't judge because of that quote.
The line comes very surprising.
Quote from: VEF214 on Feb 14, 2010, 07:22:36 PM
Have you seen any multiplayer maps based off of the campaign?
Haven't gotten into MP yet, sorry. But the 2 Survivor maps seem to be heavily inspired by key areas from SP indeed.
Quote from: Huol on Feb 14, 2010, 07:24:26 PM
Do the storylines ever cross over?
Like in the alien campaign on avp2 you can see the player predator at one point.
I've yet to play the Alien and Pred campaigns at this point, so I can't say for sure.
I don't think I met Six or the player Predator in the Marine campaign though.
One quick questions for you fans...
What is a Praetorian?
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I always thought it's a queen I fight againt...like the last fight in the movie Aliens.
Oh shame i love it when they speak otherwise they ask you a question. Then you don't say anything but the act like you have answered there question it gets a bit annoying. But do you get to see him that would be enough for me. :)
Quote from: Agent-Kiwi on Feb 14, 2010, 07:41:42 PM
One quick questions for you fans...
What is a Praetorian? Spoiler
I always thought it's a queen I fight againt...like the last fight in the movie Aliens.
I think it is a alien before it becomes a queen am i right ? i think it is a queen in waiting. If i am wrong im sorry. I am not sure if it has a special host like a predalien. But i doubt it otherwise i would know what the host was.
Quote from: Predator:o:95 on Feb 14, 2010, 07:43:04 PMThen you don't say anything but the act like you have answered there question it gets a bit annoying.
That's exactly what happens during a certain scene. Sorry I'm afraid you aint gonna like :p
Quote from: Predator:o:95 on Feb 14, 2010, 07:43:04 PMBut do you get to see him that would be enough for me. :)
Yeah you do.
Quote from: Predator:o:95 on Feb 14, 2010, 07:43:04 PM
Oh shame i love it when they speak otherwise they ask you a question. Then you don't say anything but the act like you have answered there question it gets a bit annoying. But do you get to see him that would be enough for me. :)
Quote from: Agent-Kiwi on Feb 14, 2010, 07:41:42 PM
One quick questions for you fans...
What is a Praetorian? Spoiler
I always thought it's a queen I fight againt...like the last fight in the movie Aliens.
I think it is a alien before it becomes a queen am i right ? i think it is a queen in waiting. If i am wrong im sorry
you are wrong, its a Guardian of the queen.
Oh:( really sorry my only knowledge of aliens are from the movies and they aren't in any of the movies i don't think.
Quote from: WeaN on Feb 14, 2010, 07:44:24 PM
Quote from: Predator:o:95 on Feb 14, 2010, 07:43:04 PMThen you don't say anything but the act like you have answered there question it gets a bit annoying.
That's exactly what happens during a certain scene. Sorry I'm afraid you aint gonna like :p
Quote from: Predator:o:95 on Feb 14, 2010, 07:43:04 PMBut do you get to see him that would be enough for me. :)
Yeah you do.
oh thank god i hope he looks hard and shame i hope it isn't a obvious like in some games or if it is subtle when they don't speak. tbh i think it depends what the npc asks the human player.
Quote from: GrimyGhost on Feb 14, 2010, 07:45:05 PM
you are wrong, its a Guardian of the queen.
Funny, because...
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...when you kill the Queen they are somewhere else.
Quote from: Agent-Kiwi on Feb 14, 2010, 07:50:51 PM
Quote from: GrimyGhost on Feb 14, 2010, 07:45:05 PM
you are wrong, its a Guardian of the queen.
Funny, because...Spoiler
...when you kill the Queen they are somewhere else.
Doesnt change the fact that they are the Guardians of the Queen.
Quote from: Agent-Kiwi on Feb 14, 2010, 07:50:51 PM
Quote from: GrimyGhost on Feb 14, 2010, 07:45:05 PM
you are wrong, its a Guardian of the queen.
Funny, because...Spoiler
...when you kill the Queen they are somewhere else.
Is that part of the story that there not there protecting her or is it just not important with anything to do with story?
Quote from: Predator:o:95 on Feb 14, 2010, 07:55:12 PM
Is that part of the story that there not there protecting her or is it just not important with anything to do with story?
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It's not a part of the storyline. They're just not there. You will face them later in the game.
Edit: I'll play the Predators next, so I can answer some Qs. But you gotta give me a while, I gonna go to a friends house the next couple of minutes and I'll stay there for a while...
But I think WeaN can answer some Qs as well.
Quote from: WeaN on Feb 14, 2010, 06:51:39 PM
Quote from: VEF214 on Feb 14, 2010, 05:49:48 PM
Quote from: XLRDALLAS on Feb 14, 2010, 05:52:31 PM
In your judgement was it a let down
What you fight instead is much less fun to face, and feels clunky because of the Marine gameplay which is obviously more aimed at fighting Xenos.
What is it you fight instead ?
Ok I have a question.
In the marine video it showed the Aliens moving really slow, is this because of difficulty or are they slow compared to the original AVP game?
And to anyone that has the PC VERSION thats played it. How about Auto Aim ican that be toggled off and what do the control settings look like for the PC version?
Sounds like this game is really a MP game with SP for consoles which is about 12-14 hour gameplay. Shame when you think how long HL2 was for the same amount of money. They have learned they can get the same amount for less. :-( Never let companies know that secret!
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Regarding the Queen. Does she ever actually move and walk around on screen that you've seen so far? Or is she just stationary the whole time? I am disappointed to see shes the first boss, but if shes at least fully animated in a part of the game I'll be happy.
Quote from: firefly101 on Feb 14, 2010, 08:21:20 PM
Ok I have a question.
In the marine video it showed the Aliens moving really slow, is this because of difficulty or are they slow compared to the original AVP game?
And to anyone that has the PC VERSION thats played it. How about Auto Aim ican that be toggled off and what do the control settings look like for the PC version?
Sounds like this game is really a MP game with SP for consoles which is about 12-14 hour gameplay. Shame when you think how long HL2 was for the same amount of money. They have learned they can get the same amount for less. :-( Never let companies know that secret!
The auto aim cannot be turned off, this has been answered by eric from rebellion in another thread
Quote from: PsychoticMarik on Feb 14, 2010, 08:32:49 PM
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Regarding the Queen. Does she ever actually move and walk around on screen that you've seen so far? Or is she just stationary the whole time? I am disappointed to see shes the first boss, but if shes at least fully animated in a part of the game I'll be happy.
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i think she does because apparently you don't shoot it much it more qte events i think wean said something like that on one of the earlier pages under a spoiler tag i think so it might be worth reading all the pages because wean knows more than me obviously lol EDIT found it copy and pated from weanThe first boss COULD be a let down in the sense that you don't actually get to attack it directly. More like scripted events you have to complete in order to win the fight.
Quote from: Ironseven on Feb 14, 2010, 08:12:57 PMWhat is it you fight instead ?
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Synthetics.
They are a real pain to face cause they can take A LOT of damage, and you have to take out BOTH their feet to kill them. Blowing their head off ? Does nothing, they keep on moving and firing. They use ranged weapons (pulse rifles, shotguns) and have good aim... since you can't crouch, you're pretty much an easy target when you aren't behind cover.
I hated facing these guys.
Quote from: PsychoticMarik on Feb 14, 2010, 08:32:49 PM
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Regarding the Queen. Does she ever actually move and walk around on screen that you've seen so far? Or is she just stationary the whole time? I am disappointed to see shes the first boss, but if shes at least fully animated in a part of the game I'll be happy.
I'm afraid you are going to be disappointed.
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The Queen doesn't move at all during the fight. She just calls drones to fight you among eggs, and you have to shoot canisters to set the whole place on fire and activate a button to blow the whole thing. That's it.
Quote from: WeaN on Feb 14, 2010, 09:02:20 PM
Quote from: Ironseven on Feb 14, 2010, 08:12:57 PMWhat is it you fight instead ?
Spoiler
Synthetics.
They are a real pain to face cause they can take A LOT of damage, and you have to take out BOTH their feet to kill them. Blowing their head off ? Does nothing, they keep on moving and firing. They use ranged weapons (pulse rifles, shotguns) and have good aim... since you can't crouch, you're pretty much an easy target when you aren't behind cover.
I hated facing these guys.
Quote from: PsychoticMarik on Feb 14, 2010, 08:32:49 PM
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Regarding the Queen. Does she ever actually move and walk around on screen that you've seen so far? Or is she just stationary the whole time? I am disappointed to see shes the first boss, but if shes at least fully animated in a part of the game I'll be happy.
I'm afraid you are going to be disappointed.
Spoiler
The Queen doesn't move at all during the fight. She just calls drones to fight you among eggs, and you have to shoot canisters to set the whole place on fire and activate a button to blow the whole thing. That's it.
Spoiler
so no fighting aliens in the second half of campaign at all :( how many missions do you fight synthetics
Quote from: GrimyGhost on Feb 14, 2010, 06:29:06 PM
Quote from: VEF214 on Feb 14, 2010, 06:26:01 PM
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Quote from: GrimyGhost on Feb 14, 2010, 06:20:08 PM
according to a guy on youtube each campaign can be finished in 1-2 hours... is that true?? if so thats a serious disapointment..
Meh..almost anything can be finished that fast if you zoom trough it and dont take your time with everything. + play on easy. Mass Effect 2 is arround 80hours but people can finish it in 6hours... Same goes for alot of games. It all depends on how much you ignore.
there was no rushing involved, he was on medium... he did campaign play throughs on youtube
Link?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yv3NVeuA8sU
he played the game on easy difficulty so thats y the game looked so easy, personally the tiny bits of spoilers that ive read havent at all put me off the game, and where he says on you tube that 2 hrs gameplay max for each character to me is b.s why play the game if your just gonna rush and play it on easy... the mp will be the selling point for this game anyway.. people shouldnt be able to post spoilers until after the game is released properly because folk will be tempted to read and then put off purchasing it
QuoteI'm afraid you are going to be disappointed.
Spoiler
Thats a damn shame. To think that a character as important as the Queen is a total joke in the story. Dieing that early, and hardly any animation...sigh.
Guess she could somehow be involved in the alien and preds story, but I wont hold my breath.
Pls answer this: Are the aliens so slow as we have seen in the marine gameplay trailer? Walkin' like grandma's.
This is the video btw: http://www.youtube.com/watch#playnext=1&playnext_from=TL&videos=LAwdu5T4WzA&v=_gjMbawjZ4E
Scariest/Jumpiest moment in the Marine campaign?
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So you only fight 1 predator? Damn I was hoping for more pred/marine battles in SP, thats the only complaint I had about AVP 2.
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So is it creepy being stalked by the pred like in the beginnig of the marine SP in AVP2? Like predator 1 seeing skinned bodies everywhere?
Quote from: Predator:o:95 on Feb 14, 2010, 09:18:09 PM
Quote from: WeaN on Feb 14, 2010, 09:02:20 PM
Quote from: Ironseven on Feb 14, 2010, 08:12:57 PMWhat is it you fight instead ?
Spoiler
Synthetics.
They are a real pain to face cause they can take A LOT of damage, and you have to take out BOTH their feet to kill them. Blowing their head off ? Does nothing, they keep on moving and firing. They use ranged weapons (pulse rifles, shotguns) and have good aim... since you can't crouch, you're pretty much an easy target when you aren't behind cover.
I hated facing these guys.
Quote from: PsychoticMarik on Feb 14, 2010, 08:32:49 PM
Spoiler
Regarding the Queen. Does she ever actually move and walk around on screen that you've seen so far? Or is she just stationary the whole time? I am disappointed to see shes the first boss, but if shes at least fully animated in a part of the game I'll be happy.
I'm afraid you are going to be disappointed.
Spoiler
The Queen doesn't move at all during the fight. She just calls drones to fight you among eggs, and you have to shoot canisters to set the whole place on fire and activate a button to blow the whole thing. That's it.
Spoiler
so no fighting aliens in the second half of campaign at all :( how many missions do you fight synthetics
Spoiler
How much of the campaign do you fight synthetics?????
Quote from: Predator:o:95 on Feb 14, 2010, 09:46:37 PM
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so no fighting aliens in the second half of campaign at all :( how many missions do you fight synthetics
How much of the campaign do you fight synthetics?????
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Aliens are always there, those Androids are just here and there. You dont have to fight them that often. Your main target still is the alien.
Quote from: XenoVC on Feb 14, 2010, 09:29:51 PM
Scariest/Jumpiest moment in the Marine campaign?
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There are some scripted shock moments that are pretty creepy and cool, but i acutally got shocked the most in a dark room by an normal alien attack. The motion tracker didn't show anything because the alien lurked between two tables...I just didn't see it coming
Quote from: Corporate Merc on Feb 14, 2010, 09:32:30 PM
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So you only fight 1 predator? Damn I was hoping for more pred/marine battles in SP, thats the only complaint I had about AVP 2.
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So is it creepy being stalked by the pred like in the beginnig of the marine SP in AVP2? Like predator 1 seeing skinned bodies everywhere?
Spoiler
Yes, one Predator fight. I think in the Predator SP we have more.
Spoiler
I haven't played the old games, but through out the first couple of missions you can spot some signs that Preds joining the party. You can see skined bodys on one place and their blood on the other.
Acutally, you are never really hunted by them. Only scary moment for me was seconds before you have to fight him, you hear his clicks and you hear he is real close but you cant see him, then he strikes.
well the marine campaign still sounds cool as f@$k, even though I know a shitload of spoilers by now:P Just waiting for Tuesday so I can get my hands on it and experiance what I think is what we all have been waiting for.
Quote from: Agent-Kiwi on Feb 14, 2010, 09:59:52 PM
Quote from: Predator:o:95 on Feb 14, 2010, 09:46:37 PM
Spoiler
so no fighting aliens in the second half of campaign at all :( how many missions do you fight synthetics
How much of the campaign do you fight synthetics?????
Spoiler
Aliens are always there, those Androids are just here and there. You dont have to fight them that often. Your main target still is the alien.
Oh good
Spoiler
i thought you might have to fight synthetics for the second half of the campaign
Quote from: Predator:o:95 on Feb 14, 2010, 09:18:09 PM
Spoiler
so no fighting aliens in the second half of campaign at all :( how many missions do you fight synthetics
About that particular enemy :
Spoiler
I didn't say you don't fight Aliens anymore once you encounter Synthetics. You still face Xenos, but to me, as the end of game nears, there are more Synthetic encounters and less Xeno fights. Since I don't find the Synthetics fun to fight, these parts were a real hassle to me.
Quote from: Predator:o:95 on Feb 14, 2010, 09:46:37 PM
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How much of the campaign do you fight synthetics?????
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You meet the first of them around the middle of the campaign, but you get to fight more and more of them during the last third of it. While still fighting Xenos sometimes.
It was much shorter than the Marine SP, I'd say bout half as long.
But the ending is AWESOME.
lol like last time what were the boss battles please state which one you enjoyed the most and if they were as good as marine.Also how many hours did it take you to complete and does it have replay value the alien campaign i mean.
Quote from: Predator:o:95 on Feb 14, 2010, 10:08:51 PM
Oh good Spoiler
i thought you might have to fight synthetics for the second half of the campaign
Oh no.
Spoiler
You just face them the first time in the second half. I can't remember exactly but I think it's even the last quarter you face them the first time.
Edit: Predator:o:95, you're a curious fellow, haha.
From now on the show is solo again. I'm out of here 'till I finished the alien campaign. I dont want any spoiler.
I read on many French forums the following thing:
Spoiler
Humans are seeking for the "Alien Planet" and they learn at the very end the location of this one. The Predator also got the coordinates of the planet in the very end and the ship is about to go on this planet. WHAT DA HELL?
Quote from: WeaN on Feb 14, 2010, 10:14:43 PM
Quote from: Predator:o:95 on Feb 14, 2010, 09:18:09 PM
Spoiler
so no fighting aliens in the second half of campaign at all :( how many missions do you fight synthetics
About that particular enemy :
Spoiler
I didn't say you don't fight Aliens anymore once you encounter Synthetics. You still face Xenos, but to me, as the end of game nears, there are more Synthetic encounters and less Xeno fights. Since I don't find the Synthetics fun to fight, these parts were a real hassle to me.
Quote from: Predator:o:95 on Feb 14, 2010, 09:46:37 PM
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How much of the campaign do you fight synthetics?????
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You meet the first of them around the middle of the campaign, but you get to fight more and more of them during the last third of it. While still fighting Xenos sometimes.
I just completed the Alien SP, so I'll be able to answer Alien Campaign related questions from now on too.
It was much shorter than the Marine SP, I'd say bout half as long.
But the ending is AWESOME.
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Remind me, is Six still on Weyland's ship (In space.) when she becomes a Queen? And other than the Predator trio, (two kill, one face-hug) what other bosses are there?
hows the replau value?
Quote from: Predator:o:95 on Feb 14, 2010, 10:17:00 PM
lol like last time what were the boss battles please state which one you enjoyed the most and if they were as good as marine.Also how many hours did it take you to complete and does it have replay value the alien campaign i mean.
Replay value ? Not sure ... pretty low. You might wanna play it again to get all the Jelly boxes.
Alien SP was really short ... took me less than 3 hours to beat it.
As for the bosses ... well ...
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There's only one boss encounter in the Alien SP, at the very end :
2 regular Predators, and you face an Elite Predator once you defeat them. It was a bit tricky cause the 2 regular Preds didn't have a health bar while sustaining much more damage than a MP Predator, also I could never trophy kill them as they would always break free.
You then have to lower the Elite Predator's health in order to initiate a harvesting move. Then a facehugger drops by and does its thing. I guess this is going to have a part in the Predator SP (Predalien probably)
Quote from: Le Celticant on Feb 14, 2010, 10:23:25 PM
I read on many French forums the following thing:
Spoiler
Humans are seeking for the "Alien Planet" and they learn at the very end the location of this one. The Predator also got the coordinates of the planet in the very end and the ship is about to go on this planet. WHAT DA HELL?
Yeah I can confirm about the Marine SP Ending. Didn't finish the Predator SP so I can't comment on that just now.
Quote from: Xenodog on Feb 14, 2010, 10:31:43 PM
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Remind me, is Six still on Weyland's ship (In space.) when she becomes a Queen? And other than the Predator trio, (two kill, one face-hug) what other bosses are there?
Yup, it certainly appears that way. At least that's the way it's presented during the ending.
As for your other question ... no, there aren't more bosses than the ones listed previously.
Quote from: nyce on Feb 14, 2010, 09:27:23 PM
Pls answer this: Are the aliens so slow as we have seen in the marine gameplay trailer? Walkin' like grandma's.
This is the video btw: http://www.youtube.com/watch#playnext=1&playnext_from=TL&videos=LAwdu5T4WzA&v=_gjMbawjZ4E
/bump
Quote from: WeaN on Feb 14, 2010, 10:46:48 PM
Quote from: Predator:o:95 on Feb 14, 2010, 10:17:00 PM
lol like last time what were the boss battles please state which one you enjoyed the most and if they were as good as marine.Also how many hours did it take you to complete and does it have replay value the alien campaign i mean.
Replay value ? Not sure ... pretty low. You might wanna play it again to get all the Jelly boxes.
Alien SP was really short ... took me less than 3 hours to beat it.
As for the bosses ... well ...
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There's only one boss encounter in the Alien SP, at the very end :
2 regular Predators, and you face an Elite Predator once you defeat them. It was a bit tricky cause the 2 regular Preds didn't have a health bar while sustaining much more damage than a MP Predator, also I could never trophy kill them as they would always break free.
You then have to lower the Elite Predator's health in order to initiate a harvesting move. Then a facehugger drops by and does its thing. I guess this is going to have a part in the Predator SP (Predalien probably)
Quote from: Le Celticant on Feb 14, 2010, 10:23:25 PM
I read on many French forums the following thing:
Spoiler
Humans are seeking for the "Alien Planet" and they learn at the very end the location of this one. The Predator also got the coordinates of the planet in the very end and the ship is about to go on this planet. WHAT DA HELL?
Yeah I can confirm about the Marine SP Ending. Didn't finish the Predator SP so I can't comment on that just now.
Quote from: Xenodog on Feb 14, 2010, 10:31:43 PM
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Remind me, is Six still on Weyland's ship (In space.) when she becomes a Queen? And other than the Predator trio, (two kill, one face-hug) what other bosses are there?
Yup, it certainly appears that way. At least that's the way it's presented during the ending.
As for your other question ... no, there aren't more bosses than the ones listed previously.
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Poor Six, marooned alone in Space. :P
which is more entertaining so far marine or alien ? also do you think the overall story length is long enough. :)? sorry for all my questions the campaign is my favourite bit of any game.
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So, what is the overall plot for Six? Is it true "she" becomes an alien Queen?
Quote from: Lil Theo on Feb 14, 2010, 10:54:22 PM
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So, what is the overall plot for Six? Is it true "she" becomes an alien Queen?
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Yes it is. The ending is a bit weird but she became a Queen with a "blue" skin or something like that If I remember right.
As a marine, do you face any Predaliens?
Are there any other special alien 'breeds' then the one mentioned above?
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Why was the Alien just laying on the ground after the battle with the Predators?
do you get to play as a facehugger at the begininning of the alien sp campaign like you do in avp2?
Quote from: nyce on Feb 14, 2010, 10:48:37 PM
Pls answer this: Are the aliens so slow as we have seen in the marine gameplay trailer? Walkin' like grandma's.
This is the video btw: http://www.youtube.com/watch#playnext=1&playnext_from=TL&videos=LAwdu5T4WzA&v=_gjMbawjZ4E
Yeah but this video is misleading. Most of the aliens caught in the field of view of the player were trying to initiate heavy attacks, that's why they were moving so slow. That's the "grandma's walking" you're referring to.
Also, this was a very confined space.
Don't worry, xenos usually move and run much faster in game.
Quote from: Tempest-Warrior on Feb 14, 2010, 11:07:13 PM
As a marine, do you face any Predaliens?
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No you don't.
Quote from: Tempest-Warrior on Feb 14, 2010, 11:07:13 PMAre there any other special alien 'breeds' then the one mentioned above?
In the Marine campaign,
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You only encounter 4 types of xenos : Warrior, Brown (Runner/spitter), Praetorian and Matriarch (Queen).
In the Alien campaign,
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You move along and meet only 2 types of xenos : Warrior and Brown (you never actually get to meet the Matriarch in person).
Can't say about the Pred campaign since I haven't completed it yet.
Quote from: Darkness on Feb 14, 2010, 11:20:11 PM
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Why was the Alien just laying on the ground after the battle with the Predators?
Not sure about which alien you are referring to.
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You might be talking about Six. After the fight against the Preds, the Marine player kills the Queen, which causes Six to be in pain and fall on the ground, making it easy for a few synthetics to capture her.
Quote from: Taxemic on Feb 14, 2010, 11:52:09 PM
do you get to play as a facehugger at the begininning of the alien sp campaign like you do in avp2?
I'm afraid no. This was confirmed weeks ago, and having played the game I can second it.
But you get an awesome opening cutscene for the Alien SP. Trust me on this.
which is more entertaining so far marine or alien ? also do you think the overall story length is long enough. ? sorry for all my questions the campaign is my favourite bit of any game
WeaN - thank you. this thread is awesome.
Do you often get to fight alongside other Xenomorphs?
Is Steam mandatory?
WOW! this thread its awesome!!! cant wait anymore!!
Quote from: Predator:o:95 on Feb 14, 2010, 11:55:55 PM
which is more entertaining so far marine or alien ? also do you think the overall story length is long enough. ? sorry for all my questions the campaign is my favourite bit of any game
I definitely had more fun with the Marine campaign. It's longer and has a better pacing overall. Much bigger environnements and action sequences.
The Alien SP is so short it feels like a gimmick... or a big tutorial for MP.
I'm not done with the Pred SP yet but from what I can see, I have a feeling it's gonna go down the same road as the Alien's.
Quote from: Lil Theo on Feb 15, 2010, 12:03:06 AM
Do you often get to fight alongside other Xenomorphs?
Not really.
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Only at the beginning when Six frees the other xenos, and during the Predator fight at the end.
Quote from: EdFishy on Feb 15, 2010, 12:06:26 AM
Is Steam mandatory?
Can't say. I'm not playing on PC, unfortunately.
Guys I'm gonna be away for a while, but keep asking questions if you still have some ... I'll answer them soon.
I'm loving this spoiler thread... a lot.
:P
Me too. The only campaign I dont know about is the Pred campaign I wanted to play that for myself!
Not clicking on "spoiler" is killing me!
Quote from: thrown_hammer on Feb 15, 2010, 12:38:58 AM
Not clicking on "spoiler" is killing me!
The whispers of curiosity will haunt you if you don't.
Do it.
VEF.
Are you playing the AvP Demo a lot?
I'm looking for a play buddy 'til Tuesday.
Quote from: Lil Theo on Feb 15, 2010, 12:47:10 AM
VEF.
Are you playing the AvP Demo a lot?
I'm looking for a play buddy 'til Tuesday.
I was today. I can't play tomorrow. I'll try to get on Tuesday but even that looks doubtful. It looks like you just missed me, sorry. :(
Awesome thread.
Shame that the Alien's campaign is short as hell, but I'll just enjoy myself on that one and take my time. ^^
I hope the Pred's is a little longer though.
Question to WeaN.
What happens to #6 during the end of her campaign?
In what order do the campaigns take place (time-wise)? From what I can gather, it sounds like Alien first, and then the Predator and Marine campaigns overlap.
Was there any cool cutscene's from either campaign that sticks out in your head?
Spoiler
This may be a stupid question, but how much of Queen #6 do you really see?
Does the games story leave obvious openings for a sequel other than this?
Well thanks for the answers I am going to CANCEL my order with gamestop.com I am not paying $63 with shipping for this game. I think I will wait until its $20 I have a feeling alot of them will be on Ebay when people get bored with it.
I new rebellion was the wrong company for an SP game, the original AVP was nothing but a MP game, and now they are following the same cheap line of 12 hours of gameplay is what I FEAR. I cant play online, but even if I did with auto aiming and slow moving aliens, no way I will wait for Mods to come out or the price to drop alot. Too badI would have liked to play, but I pay out of my own pocket and I can find something better to do with $63 then a half consolized 12 hour game.
Thanks again you saved me money and disappointment, if Rebellion Reads this Next AVP make a better and LONGER SP game, and Bots in the MP for people who dont play online.
Quote from: firefly101 on Feb 15, 2010, 01:29:25 AM
Well thanks for the answers I am going to CANCEL my order with gamestop.com I am not paying $63 with shipping for this game. I think I will wait until its $20 I have a feeling alot of them will be on Ebay when people get bored with it.
I new rebellion was the wrong company for an SP game, the original AVP was nothing but a MP game, and now they are following the same cheap line of 12 hours of gameplay is what I FEAR. I cant play online, but even if I did with auto aiming and slow moving aliens, no way I will wait for Mods to come out or the price to drop alot. Too badI would have liked to play, but I pay out of my own pocket and I can find something better to do with $63 then a half consolized 12 hour game.
Thanks again you saved me money and disappointment, if Rebellion Reads this Next AVP make a better and LONGER SP game, and Bots in the MP for people who dont play online.
Dude listen, it's just an mp age, almost no game concentrates on sp gaming, most go for mp gaming that's what this game is about to, the online experience, the sp is just for getting to know the story line. So stop ya yapping it's just how it is now a days.
To add to that ^^ The aliens are anything but slow lol..
Quote from: Baasje92 on Feb 15, 2010, 01:33:09 AM
Quote from: firefly101 on Feb 15, 2010, 01:29:25 AM
Well thanks for the answers I am going to CANCEL my order with gamestop.com I am not paying $63 with shipping for this game. I think I will wait until its $20 I have a feeling alot of them will be on Ebay when people get bored with it.
I new rebellion was the wrong company for an SP game, the original AVP was nothing but a MP game, and now they are following the same cheap line of 12 hours of gameplay is what I FEAR. I cant play online, but even if I did with auto aiming and slow moving aliens, no way I will wait for Mods to come out or the price to drop alot. Too badI would have liked to play, but I pay out of my own pocket and I can find something better to do with $63 then a half consolized 12 hour game.
Thanks again you saved me money and disappointment, if Rebellion Reads this Next AVP make a better and LONGER SP game, and Bots in the MP for people who dont play online.
Dude listen, it's just an mp age, almost no game concentrates on sp gaming, most go for mp gaming that's what this game is about to, the online experience, the sp is just for getting to know the story line. So stop ya yapping it's just how it is now a days.
Dude just leave him. It's his opinion and nothing will change it. Most ignorant people these days can't appreciate the amount of time they probably put into the story. Judging by that guy he's one of them, he hasn't even played the damn game and he's judging. By the looks of the story that i've seen it's fairly good and i'd prefer a good campaign that is average sized than a crappy one that's way too stretched out for length.
Quote from: draken161 on Feb 15, 2010, 01:40:24 AM
Quote from: Baasje92 on Feb 15, 2010, 01:33:09 AM
Quote from: firefly101 on Feb 15, 2010, 01:29:25 AM
Well thanks for the answers I am going to CANCEL my order with gamestop.com I am not paying $63 with shipping for this game. I think I will wait until its $20 I have a feeling alot of them will be on Ebay when people get bored with it.
I new rebellion was the wrong company for an SP game, the original AVP was nothing but a MP game, and now they are following the same cheap line of 12 hours of gameplay is what I FEAR. I cant play online, but even if I did with auto aiming and slow moving aliens, no way I will wait for Mods to come out or the price to drop alot. Too badI would have liked to play, but I pay out of my own pocket and I can find something better to do with $63 then a half consolized 12 hour game.
Thanks again you saved me money and disappointment, if Rebellion Reads this Next AVP make a better and LONGER SP game, and Bots in the MP for people who dont play online.
Dude listen, it's just an mp age, almost no game concentrates on sp gaming, most go for mp gaming that's what this game is about to, the online experience, the sp is just for getting to know the story line. So stop ya yapping it's just how it is now a days.
Dude just leave him. It's his opinion and nothing will change it. Most ignorant people these days can't appreciate the amount of time they probably put into the story. Judging by that guy he's one of them, he hasn't even played the damn game and he's judging. By the looks of the story that i've seen it's fairly good and i'd prefer a good campaign that is average sized than a crappy one that's way too stretched out for length.
Well said man!!!!!
Quote from: draken161 on Feb 15, 2010, 01:40:24 AM
Quote from: Baasje92 on Feb 15, 2010, 01:33:09 AM
Quote from: firefly101 on Feb 15, 2010, 01:29:25 AM
Well thanks for the answers I am going to CANCEL my order with gamestop.com I am not paying $63 with shipping for this game. I think I will wait until its $20 I have a feeling alot of them will be on Ebay when people get bored with it.
I new rebellion was the wrong company for an SP game, the original AVP was nothing but a MP game, and now they are following the same cheap line of 12 hours of gameplay is what I FEAR. I cant play online, but even if I did with auto aiming and slow moving aliens, no way I will wait for Mods to come out or the price to drop alot. Too badI would have liked to play, but I pay out of my own pocket and I can find something better to do with $63 then a half consolized 12 hour game.
Thanks again you saved me money and disappointment, if Rebellion Reads this Next AVP make a better and LONGER SP game, and Bots in the MP for people who dont play online.
Dude listen, it's just an mp age, almost no game concentrates on sp gaming, most go for mp gaming that's what this game is about to, the online experience, the sp is just for getting to know the story line. So stop ya yapping it's just how it is now a days.
Dude just leave him. It's his opinion and nothing will change it. Most ignorant people these days can't appreciate the amount of time they probably put into the story. Judging by that guy he's one of them, he hasn't even played the damn game and he's judging. By the looks of the story that i've seen it's fairly good and i'd prefer a good campaign that is average sized than a crappy one that's way too stretched out for length.
Very well said. Beside playing on the hardest difficulty on all campaigns, will be different than almost all other FPS games coming out this year.
6-12 hours seems pretty standard to me, not sure why it's considered short. It's not like this is an rpg where you expect 20+ hours of gameplay. Games may be shorter now a days, but I think that has to do with games being more casual. After all, the faster you kill the enemies and the less you die, the faster you finish the game.
Anyhoo, it was nice to here about the facehuggers. Was always curious about that since they were always the things I worried about the most in AvP games.
Ok question...
Spoiler
In the Alien campaign does six actually have facehuggers with her? I mean she's some sort of genetic hybrid/experiment correct? So does she just call a facehugger or does she actually...idk produce one?
And does the ending blatantly set up a sequel?
Quote from: afrocat on Feb 15, 2010, 02:34:43 AM
Ok question...
Spoiler
In the Alien campaign does six actually have facehuggers with her? I mean she's some sort of genetic hybrid/experiment correct? So does she just call a facehugger or does she actually...idk produce one?
From what i've heard Rebellion does plan to make a sequel so I guess so.
For the question. she calls them. Make it noted that these are random spawning.
Ah okay, thanks very much I was confused about the Facehuggers and where they spawn. I figured as much for the sequel.
Hey Wean quick question,is there a big muzzle flash with the pulse rifle like how it was in the demo? [360 version] that's mainly all that bothers me about the game,can't see not a damn thing when firing while playing the demo because of it.
Quote from: Baasje92 on Feb 15, 2010, 01:33:09 AM
Dude listen, it's just an mp age, almost no game concentrates on sp gaming, most go for mp gaming that's what this game is about to, the online experience, the sp is just for getting to know the story line.
Wrong.
It's only primarily geared towards being multiplayer if it's somehow advertised as such: For instance, the original '
Battlefield 1942'. Just because you
can do multiplayer on something, doesn't mean to say that should be the exclusive motivation for whoever purchases it - and certainly shouldn't be the only focus for whoever designs it (if they ever do, then it's laziness).
A lot of people don't even have an Internet connection (a good proportion of which will probably buy this) and, with due respect, it makes you seem a bit elitist to dismiss those people as meaningless.
With that said, it sounds like these three different campaigns should truly be treated as three acts/chapters in one huge one. Ideally, each would be just as lengthy as one another.
Quote from: WeaN on Feb 14, 2010, 05:59:47 PM
Quote from: Darkness on Feb 14, 2010, 05:29:33 PM
How does it compare to AvP2's Marine campaign if you played it?
Yeah, I did play AvP 2 Marine Campaign back then. I'd say it's pretty similar in the sense that it starts really slow and creepy, taking time to set up each encounter, and escalates gradually into a more action oriented experience. Towards the end, you'll face waves of Xenos at once.
Quote from: Sifer2 on Feb 14, 2010, 05:33:35 PM
Was is it easy? I watched a guy playing on a stream an between him being able to just rifle bash the Aliens to stun them whenever they got close an auto grabbing face huggers it looked like it would be too easy. Compared to the old AvP anyway which was kind of scary just because of how fast an dangerous the Aliens were.
It wasn't so hard to me. Then again, I'm kinda used to console FPSs.
Also, the heavily pronounced aim assist didn't really help making it harder. It basically follows moving targets for you for a sec or two as soon as they appear, so you'd have to be really bad to actually miss.
Only the beginning of the game was tricky cause as most of you probably know already, you start with the pistol only. A single Alien can sustain quite some damage, so I often found myself firing, running past him, get some distance and repeat... that is if I had enough room to do so.
Since you can block and counter just like in MP, as long as you can predict whether the Alien is gonna perform a light or strong attack, you're pretty much safe.
BUT they move a lot, so as soon as you have to deal with a bunch of them in tight environnement, it's gonna require much more creativity. You'll find yourself surrounded quite often.
So yeah. The atmosphere creeped me more than the Xenos themselves. Past the surprise of the first levels, they become mere targets.
Quote from: Predator:o:95 on Feb 14, 2010, 05:34:44 PMi thought you would see one of those bosses more than once.
Well, actually ... you kinda do.
Spoiler
The first Praetorian you'll ever meet will be a boss, but then you'll meet two of them as regular enemies. They seemed to have a bit less health too.
regarding the part that you said that in the 1st part of the marine mission you only have a pistol.I'm curious to know when you get a better weapon like the pulse rifle or the shot gun or anything better then a pistol.
Just spoiled the story by watching the clips on youtube the story is rather bland though I expected that. Looks like this will be mostly a multiplayer game.
A little off topic but I can see why the predalien skin isn't playable in multiplayer.... its so terrible. I was expecting it to be a good design based on what little I could see from that one clip from the e3 demo but after seeing it for the full game I'd rather have Chet back and that saying something
I thought I saw it locked in the mp demo.
@Pauk -d Paya
you a funny guy but your probably right haha.
Do they have any vent shaft scenes with the junction gates from ALIEN at any point in the Marine campaign?
In some videos I saw it looked like if you are an Alien, you can be 2 feet away from them moving and they wont see you. Is this the same in Hard mode?
Also, if you have been seen, how easy or hard is it to hide in the shadows and lose them?
Quote from: gloatingdazz on Feb 14, 2010, 09:20:27 PM
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Quote from: Zephon on Feb 14, 2010, 06:23:16 PM
Quote from: GrimyGhost on Feb 14, 2010, 06:20:08 PM
according to a guy on youtube each campaign can be finished in 1-2 hours... is that true?? if so thats a serious disapointment..
Meh..almost anything can be finished that fast if you zoom trough it and dont take your time with everything. + play on easy. Mass Effect 2 is arround 80hours but people can finish it in 6hours... Same goes for alot of games. It all depends on how much you ignore.
there was no rushing involved, he was on medium... he did campaign play throughs on youtube
Link?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yv3NVeuA8sU
he played the game on easy difficulty so thats y the game looked so easy, personally the tiny bits of spoilers that ive read havent at all put me off the game, and where he says on you tube that 2 hrs gameplay max for each character to me is b.s why play the game if your just gonna rush and play it on easy... the mp will be the selling point for this game anyway.. people shouldnt be able to post spoilers until after the game is released properly because folk will be tempted to read and then put off purchasing it
Indeed, im prolly gonna play it on hard first and then atleast for the predator campaign play it on easy and just enjoy hunting ;)
how violent does it get, are there parts with bodies destroyed like no ones buisness
Quote from: S.Y.L on Feb 14, 2010, 03:38:49 PM
Quote from: WeaN on Feb 14, 2010, 03:37:48 PM
I was lucky enough to get my hands on the game a bit early
how did you manage that?
Yeah.. I'd like to know that too..
Now about the ending, sounds like a cliffhanger to me :P
And i really hope that if they are gonna build some kind of campaign on the ending it will be a DLC since just thinking about it.. Makes me feel like waiting for a full sequel to this game would be PAINFUL..
Quote from: elderwolf on Feb 15, 2010, 06:57:00 AM
how violent does it get, are there parts with bodies destroyed like no ones buisness
Spoiler
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nBeKJQBT9oA
but that's just a video of the 1st action I think
One guestion about Marine campaign...
So... There is no crouch mode but how does this work in SP ??
A. The level design is such that there simply aren't any such cramped areas
where you couldn't fit in without crouching...
B. Such areas do exist but since you can't crouch, you can't get there and
if your destination is through such area then you must simply take some
detours to get ahead...
C. There are such areas and when you try to go there you do crouch but
it happens automatically...
Ööh... Wait a Second guestion...
In MP it seems you can have only 4 PR nades and there is no reloading...
(I mean they just "teleport" inside your weapon as you pick them up...)
How are they in SP ??
Quote from: AJL on Feb 15, 2010, 08:14:14 AM
One guestion about Marine campaign...
So... There is no crouch mode but how does this work in SP ??
A. The level design is such that there simply aren't any such cramped areas
where you couldn't fit in without crouching...
B. Such areas do exist but since you can't crouch, you can't get there and
if your destination is through such area then you must simply take some
detours to get ahead...
C. There are such areas and when you try to go there you do crouch but
it happens automatically...
Ööh... Wait a Second guestion...
In MP it seems you can have only 4 PR nades and there is no reloading...
(I mean they just "teleport" inside your weapon as you pick them up...)
How are they in SP ??
The crouch is GONE! You can't help it, right now it's being cocooned just like the others... (others being speargun and netgun of the pred)
Quote from: draken161 on Feb 15, 2010, 08:40:56 AM
The crouch is GONE! You can't help it, right now it's being cocooned just like the others...
Your "answer" is not really an answer to anything I asked... ::)
Quote from: AJL on Feb 15, 2010, 08:14:14 AM
One guestion about Marine campaign...
So... There is no crouch mode but how does this work in SP ??
A. The level design is such that there simply aren't any such cramped areas
where you couldn't fit in without crouching...
B. Such areas do exist but since you can't crouch, you can't get there and
if your destination is through such area then you must simply take some
detours to get ahead...
C. There are such areas and when you try to go there you do crouch but
it happens automatically...
Ööh... Wait a Second guestion...
In MP it seems you can have only 4 PR nades and there is no reloading...
(I mean they just "teleport" inside your weapon as you pick them up...)
How are they in SP ??
The Marine can mantle objects of a certain height.
Is nightmare mode unlocked from the start or do we have to unlock it by beating it first on hard? I've seen the nightmare mode in the menu on some previous videos if your curious of why I ask the question.
It'd be really gay if it was locked.
Spoiler
The pryamid part of the Predator campaign looks frustratingly confusing.
The ancient Aztec-style mask makes a lot of sense now, but it makes no sense for the Predators to have to earn Alien vision, when it should be a standard piece of equipment.
Quote from: Pauk -d Paya on Feb 15, 2010, 06:25:56 AM
just one thing how do we know hes not just making all this up. So wean why dont you put a screen shot of you against all bosses in all camps use the spoiler tag of corse but thats the only way ill b-lieve you
Watch through the video links. The entire Alien and Predator campaigns are there. Much of the Colonial Marine one, too.
Quote from: Eldritch on Feb 15, 2010, 09:58:06 AM
Yes, but that sounds like bollocks to me man.
Maybe you'd better go and look at our front page with the really obvious photograph, before saying that. :)
Quote from: draken161 on Feb 15, 2010, 08:40:56 AM
others being speargun and netgun of the pred
I've said this before, but the above video links confirm it to the nth degree: The ordinary spear is acting
precisely like a spear
gun. It's the same thing, in all but name.
Much like the magically appearing facehuggers, there's no explanation for how it's spontaneously retrieved, however, so... It's more like a spear gun with... Infinite ammunition.
So is it true that the PC versions can't be played yet? That steam won't allow activation of the game?
Quote from: Zephon on Feb 15, 2010, 11:16:51 AM
So is it true that the PC versions can't be played yet? That steam won't allow activation of the game?
Makes sense to me; sounds like the same message you get when you pre-load a game. And I bet steam does this for people who obtain the game early.
Quote from: Xenomorphine on Feb 15, 2010, 10:41:20 AM
Quote from: draken161 on Feb 15, 2010, 08:40:56 AM
others being speargun and netgun of the pred
The ordinary spear is acting precisely like a spear gun. It's the same thing, in all but name.
Much like the magically appearing facehuggers, there's no explanation for how it's spontaneously
retrieved, however, so... It's more like a spear gun with... Infinite ammunition.
Exept:
- Speargun felt better with its ability tear off limbs and all that...
- Speargun had Lasers which gave enemies some advance warning...
- Speargun projectiles moved with practically infinite speed, and in a
straight line while these spears are slow and fly in arc, making them
much less effective sniping weapon than the speargun was...
- Speargun felt like complete weapon while with this Spear it feels
like they only implemented one small fraction of it...
Quote from: AJL on Feb 15, 2010, 11:19:51 AM
Quote from: Xenomorphine on Feb 15, 2010, 10:41:20 AM
Quote from: draken161 on Feb 15, 2010, 08:40:56 AM
others being speargun and netgun of the pred
The ordinary spear is acting precisely like a spear gun. It's the same thing, in all but name.
Much like the magically appearing facehuggers, there's no explanation for how it's spontaneously
retrieved, however, so... It's more like a spear gun with... Infinite ammunition.
Exept:
- Speargun felt better with its ability tear off limbs and all that...
- Speargun had Lasers which gave enemies some advance warning...
- Speargun projectiles moved with practically infinite speed, and in a
straight line while these spears are slow and fly in arc, making them
much less effective sniping weapon than the speargun was...
- Speargun felt like complete weapon while with this Spear it feels
like they only implemented one small fraction of it...
But i reckon when you get used to it and learn the ark it will be better than disk. Because alll of the pred weapons are easy to use i will want a challenge as a predator
Quote from: Elude on Feb 15, 2010, 10:36:30 AM
Is nightmare mode unlocked from the start or do we have to unlock it by beating it first on hard? I've seen the nightmare mode in the menu on some previous videos if your curious of why I ask the question.
Quote from: Predator:o:95 on Feb 15, 2010, 11:33:28 AM
But i reckon when you get used to it and learn the ark it will be better than disk. Because alll of the pred weapons are easy to use i will want a challenge as a predator
Better than disc ::) I doubt it could be better than disc... unless they weaken
disk or improve the spear somehow... but anyway I already do use spear more
than disc... there are enough disc spammers out there...
Quote from: AJL on Feb 15, 2010, 11:40:48 AM
Quote from: Predator:o:95 on Feb 15, 2010, 11:33:28 AM
But i reckon when you get used to it and learn the ark it will be better than disk. Because alll of the pred weapons are easy to use i will want a challenge as a predator
Better than disc ::) I doubt it could be better than disc... unless they weaken
disk or improve the spear somehow... but anyway I already do use spear more
than disc... there are enough disc spammers out there...
As much as i like the disk it is a easy weapon to use the spear is more fore fulling and skill full
Quote from: InfestedGoat on Feb 15, 2010, 11:18:04 AM
Quote from: Zephon on Feb 15, 2010, 11:16:51 AM
So is it true that the PC versions can't be played yet? That steam won't allow activation of the game?
Makes sense to me; sounds like the same message you get when you pre-load a game. And I bet steam does this for people who obtain the game early.
anyone know anyone that has it and played on PC already? I just don't want to waste my money, lol.
Quote from: Namihana on Feb 15, 2010, 01:00:46 AMQuestion to WeaN.
What happens to #6 during the end of her campaign?
That's a big spoiler :
Spoiler
At the end of the Alien campaign, Six becomes a Queen.
Quote from: Toxicon on Feb 15, 2010, 01:07:40 AM
In what order do the campaigns take place (time-wise)? From what I can gather, it sounds like Alien first, and then the Predator and Marine campaigns overlap.
Time wise, the Alien campaign definitely comes first. I'm not sure about the Marine and Pred ones, they start at the same time (when the Pred warship attacks the human one), but the Marine campaign probably ends after the Pred one. I'm haven't completed Pred yet, I'll let you know when I do.
butI really suggest to play in that order : Marine, Alien, Predator.
In my opinion it's the best way to enjoy the way the events relate between each other.
You get to see the consequences of what the Marine player does when you play as the Alien, and what the Alien does has consequences during the Predator campaign.
You'll understand when you play.
Quote from: PsychoticMarik on Feb 15, 2010, 01:20:30 AM
Spoiler
This may be a stupid question, but how much of Queen #6 do you really see?
Does the games story leave obvious openings for a sequel other than this?
Spoiler
You get to see Six actually break her former skin and become a Queen.
The ending definitely opens room for a sequel, as Six happens to have taken control of a human space ship lost in space and built her hive there.
Quote from: afrocat on Feb 15, 2010, 02:34:43 AM
Ok question...
Spoiler
In the Alien campaign does six actually have facehuggers with her? I mean she's some sort of genetic hybrid/experiment correct? So does she just call a facehugger or does she actually...idk produce one?
Nah, Six is no different than any other Drone, except she's maybe much clever.
You don't get to produce facehuggers or whatever. They just appear from nowhere when you initiate a harvesting move.
There is only one part when you crawl through vents and see an AI facehugger come along, before it proceeds to attack some Marines. But you don't actually assist it in anyway.
Quote from: Rem on Feb 15, 2010, 03:13:29 AM
Hey Wean quick question,is there a big muzzle flash with the pulse rifle like how it was in the demo? [360 version] that's mainly all that bothers me about the game,can't see not a damn thing when firing while playing the demo because of it.
It's about the same as in the demo.
Quote from: Pauk -d Paya on Feb 15, 2010, 06:25:56 AM
apparently though the guy who started this thread saidSpoiler
the alien campaign is way shorter than the marines unless it only seems shorter cos it was easier for him when he used aliens
You're free to believe me or not. I'm merely offering, not forcing.
Seeing as we are so close to release, you'll get to check by yourself soon anyway. If I lied then you can come back here and slap me in the face :)
Quote from: Wraiths_Hawkins on Feb 15, 2010, 06:27:32 AM
regarding the part that you said that in the 1st part of the marine mission you only have a pistol.I'm curious to know when you get a better weapon like the pulse rifle or the shot gun or anything better then a pistol.
You get a pulse rifle when...
Spoiler
you meet up with Tequila.
Quote from: "The Space Sweeper" on Feb 15, 2010, 06:37:12 AM
Do they have any vent shaft scenes with the junction gates from ALIEN at any point in the Marine campaign?
No, unfortunately.
No crawling through vents as the Marine.
Quote from: InfestedGoat on Feb 15, 2010, 06:41:09 AM
In some videos I saw it looked like if you are an Alien, you can be 2 feet away from them moving and they wont see you. Is this the same in Hard mode?
Also, if you have been seen, how easy or hard is it to hide in the shadows and lose them?
It's pretty simple. As long as the reticle says you're in the shadow, humans can't see you.
Even if you get spotted, as long as you get back in the shadows, they go like "where did it go ? I lost it".
Quote from: elderwolf on Feb 15, 2010, 06:57:00 AM
how violent does it get, are there parts with bodies destroyed like no ones buisness
You stubble upon many Marine bodies indeed. They aren't heavily mutilated, just covered in blood. I don't remember seeing severed limbs.
But as the Alien, the bodies of your victims remain there, you could even bump into it and have the Marine head you just cut off roll on the ground.
Alien bodies do disappear as soon as you kill them as a Marine though.
Quote from: AJL on Feb 15, 2010, 08:14:14 AM
One guestion about Marine campaign...
So... There is no crouch mode but how does this work in SP ??
A. The level design is such that there simply aren't any such cramped areas
where you couldn't fit in without crouching...
B. Such areas do exist but since you can't crouch, you can't get there and
if your destination is through such area then you must simply take some
detours to get ahead...
C. There are such areas and when you try to go there you do crouch but
it happens automatically...
I'd say it's a mix between A and B.
Areas never require you to crouch to get anywhere... you get stairs, elevators, doors, and sometimes you get prompted to climb over rubble.
Not beeing able to crouch isn't a problem as long as you only face Aliens.
Quote from: AJL on Feb 15, 2010, 08:14:14 AMÖöh... Wait a Second guestion...
In MP it seems you can have only 4 PR nades and there is no reloading...
(I mean they just "teleport" inside your weapon as you pick them up...)
How are they in SP ??
It's just the same as in the demo I'm afraid. Limit is 4 in SP too, and there is no reloading animation when you pick a nade.
What I did enjoy though, is the fact you get first person animations for almost everything you do : Push a switch, open a door, type on a keyboard, offer shoulder to a friendly character. You get to see the hands/arms of your character do everything, that's great for immersion.
gg Rebellion on this.
Quote from: Elude on Feb 15, 2010, 10:36:30 AM
Is nightmare mode unlocked from the start or do we have to unlock it by beating it first on hard? I've seen the nightmare mode in the menu on some previous videos if your curious of why I ask the question.
It'd be really gay if it was locked.
Nightmare mode is available right from the start.
You get zero checkpoints in this mode.
does the difficulty actually change the way the the ai acts or just that enemies do more damage?
Which were your favorite missions for each species ? What did you like/dislike about each mission and why ?
I might suggest sending those by PM though ;)
Quote from: AJL on Feb 15, 2010, 11:19:51 AM
- Speargun felt better with its ability tear off limbs and all that...
- Speargun had Lasers which gave enemies some advance warning...
- Speargun projectiles moved with practically infinite speed, and in a
straight line while these spears are slow and fly in arc, making them
much less effective sniping weapon than the speargun was...
- Speargun felt like complete weapon while with this Spear it feels
like they only implemented one small fraction of it...
Virtually everything you describe are more to do with Rebellion's take on rod-like projectiles being shot through the air, than whatever shoots them. :)
Having that laser paint a target when it's not for the shoulder cannon, never made sense to me.
Quote from: AJL on Feb 15, 2010, 08:14:14 AM
So... There is no crouch mode but how does this work in SP ??
same as it does in MP.... it`s not there.
.. are we not saying this right? :D
Wait.... so you're saying there is a crouch!
;D
QuoteHaving that laser paint a target when it's not for the shoulder cannon, never made sense to me.
In AVP1 Multiplayer the laser came directly from the speargun, not from the mask.
Quote from: S.Y.L on Feb 15, 2010, 12:29:27 PM
Quote from: AJL on Feb 15, 2010, 08:14:14 AM
So... There is no crouch mode but how does this work in SP ??
same as it does in MP.... it`s not there.
.. are we not saying this right? :D
WE ? No.. YOU... You are not...
Reading it right... (At all propably) ::)
I am guessing, as soon as you noticed the word crouch in there you
stopped reading (and of course missed the whole question) and you
just gave that same standard there is no crouch mode reply which
had nothing to do with my question... :-\
IF you would have read my post you
should have noticed that I did
not ask how this Crouch mode (which don't exist) work in SP ::)
I asked how the SP works without it...
Quote from: Predator:o:95 on Feb 15, 2010, 12:19:28 PM
does the difficulty actually change the way the the ai acts or just that enemies do more damage?
I only played on Hard so far, so I'm not sure.
The aliens sustain a lot of damage, though. For instance, a single throw of the Pred disc doesn't kill an alien on Hard. A second disc will put it down but it will still try to crawl at you, unless you aimed at the head. Also, as the Marine you have to shoot at an alien for at a least 3 seconds to kill it (body shots) ... shooting the head does more damage of course.
Quote from: Spic on Feb 15, 2010, 12:23:12 PM
Which were your favorite missions for each species ? What did you like/dislike about each mission and why ?
I might suggest sending those by PM though ;)
I enjoyed the first part of the Marine more, cause it felt so much like James Cameron's
Aliens.
The beginning of the Alien SP is pretty awesome too, since you get to actually get away from your cell and wreak avok inside the research facility.
What I didn't like about each campaign ?
Spoiler
Synthetics. They sustain too much damage and aren't fun to face... if you blow their head off they keep fighting, if you blow one leg they just sit on the ground and keep shooting, and body shoots are close to useless since they are heaviliy armored.
Especially as the Marine since you can't crouch to avoid their fire.
Are the animations good for the spoiler above you just mentioned?
Quote from: Xenomorphine on Feb 15, 2010, 06:11:53 AM
Quote from: Baasje92 on Feb 15, 2010, 01:33:09 AM
Dude listen, it's just an mp age, almost no game concentrates on sp gaming, most go for mp gaming that's what this game is about to, the online experience, the sp is just for getting to know the story line.
Wrong.
It's only primarily geared towards being multiplayer if it's somehow advertised as such: For instance, the original 'Battlefield 1942'. Just because you can do multiplayer on something, doesn't mean to say that should be the exclusive motivation for whoever purchases it - and certainly shouldn't be the only focus for whoever designs it (if they ever do, then it's laziness).
A lot of people don't even have an Internet connection (a good proportion of which will probably buy this) and, with due respect, it makes you seem a bit elitist to dismiss those people as meaningless.
With that said, it sounds like these three different campaigns should truly be treated as three acts/chapters in one huge one. Ideally, each would be just as lengthy as one another.
Yup, though I am a MP oriented player but I agree and furthermore what speaks against having a good SP AND a good MP ;).
AvP 2 has shown us that this is pretty much possible. However AvP 2 was a game that was dedicated towards ONE platform, namely the PC and we all know how demanding this bunch of people can be about having a good SP and MP ;).
Maybe that is the reason (though I know its more then this ;) ).
I also understand the rest of the people who did not have a 3 Mbyte connection at home and a top rig at this one to play the MP of the game endless hours until their eyes bleed though this just reinforces more my faith in Monolith and that I know that they have proven me how to make a top end game with a very nice story as well as a top end MP that has as well as the SP nearly endless replayability.
Thats also why I ask myself that now everyone thinks that AvP (3) will be a game more MP oriented and that the game will shine there, cause from the MP demo I can not really say that it blew me away as a lot of things do miss in it and certainly make competitive gaming a non-issue at that point. In addition to that we do not even know how the final MP of the game will be (with exception of WeaN and few lucky ones ;) ) but according to the trailers/previews etc. in comparison to the MP demo it will have some more maps and
luckily dedicated servers for the PC which is a really good addition for the MP platform at that one but thats about it and if we are serious regarding competitive gaming the additional modes are just their for show, however the general gameplay is NOT the place where it will really shine and thats where the game needs to shine while being close to its canon we know off but there we already got some problems ... .
People sometimes must dream which seems to me to be the case by thinking that this game will shine in MP :-\ ... .
On last note crouch is missing here so this game has already lost a very important part for a good MP game and I do not say this because crouch is not important and therefore not mandatory for SP but because crouch opens up new ways of fighting and making it harder to be target in a good session then the rather obvious things that the developers always put up as explanation of not having it in ;).
Edit: Well Xenodog lets hope so. It would be quickly boring if you could play it through in a matter of a few hours ;).
Quote from: WeaN on Feb 15, 2010, 12:11:41 PM
Quote from: Namihana on Feb 15, 2010, 01:00:46 AMQuestion to WeaN.
What happens to #6 during the end of her campaign?
That's a big spoiler :
Spoiler
At the end of the Alien campaign, Six becomes a Queen.
Quote from: Toxicon on Feb 15, 2010, 01:07:40 AM
In what order do the campaigns take place (time-wise)? From what I can gather, it sounds like Alien first, and then the Predator and Marine campaigns overlap.
Time wise, the Alien campaign definitely comes first. I'm not sure about the Marine and Pred ones, they start at the same time (when the Pred warship attacks the human one), but the Marine campaign probably ends after the Pred one. I'm haven't completed Pred yet, I'll let you know when I do.
but
I really suggest to play in that order : Marine, Alien, Predator.
In my opinion it's the best way to enjoy the way the events relate between each other.
You get to see the consequences of what the Marine player does when you play as the Alien, and what the Alien does has consequences during the Predator campaign.
You'll understand when you play.
Quote from: PsychoticMarik on Feb 15, 2010, 01:20:30 AM
Spoiler
This may be a stupid question, but how much of Queen #6 do you really see?
Does the games story leave obvious openings for a sequel other than this?
Spoiler
You get to see Six actually break her former skin and become a Queen.
The ending definitely opens room for a sequel, as Six happens to have taken control of a human space ship lost in space and built her hive there.
Quote from: afrocat on Feb 15, 2010, 02:34:43 AM
Ok question...
Spoiler
In the Alien campaign does six actually have facehuggers with her? I mean she's some sort of genetic hybrid/experiment correct? So does she just call a facehugger or does she actually...idk produce one?
Nah, Six is no different than any other Drone, except she's maybe much clever.
You don't get to produce facehuggers or whatever. They just appear from nowhere when you initiate a harvesting move.
There is only one part when you crawl through vents and see an AI facehugger come along, before it proceeds to attack some Marines. But you don't actually assist it in anyway.
Quote from: Rem on Feb 15, 2010, 03:13:29 AM
Hey Wean quick question,is there a big muzzle flash with the pulse rifle like how it was in the demo? [360 version] that's mainly all that bothers me about the game,can't see not a damn thing when firing while playing the demo because of it.
It's about the same as in the demo.
Quote from: Pauk -d Paya on Feb 15, 2010, 06:25:56 AM
apparently though the guy who started this thread saidSpoiler
the alien campaign is way shorter than the marines unless it only seems shorter cos it was easier for him when he used aliens
You're free to believe me or not. I'm merely offering, not forcing.
Seeing as we are so close to release, you'll get to check by yourself soon anyway. If I lied then you can come back here and slap me in the face :)
Quote from: Wraiths_Hawkins on Feb 15, 2010, 06:27:32 AM
regarding the part that you said that in the 1st part of the marine mission you only have a pistol.I'm curious to know when you get a better weapon like the pulse rifle or the shot gun or anything better then a pistol.
You get a pulse rifle when...
Spoiler
you meet up with Tequila.
Quote from: "The Space Sweeper" on Feb 15, 2010, 06:37:12 AM
Do they have any vent shaft scenes with the junction gates from ALIEN at any point in the Marine campaign?
No, unfortunately.
No crawling through vents as the Marine.
Quote from: InfestedGoat on Feb 15, 2010, 06:41:09 AM
In some videos I saw it looked like if you are an Alien, you can be 2 feet away from them moving and they wont see you. Is this the same in Hard mode?
Also, if you have been seen, how easy or hard is it to hide in the shadows and lose them?
It's pretty simple. As long as the reticle says you're in the shadow, humans can't see you.
Even if you get spotted, as long as you get back in the shadows, they go like "where did it go ? I lost it".
Quote from: elderwolf on Feb 15, 2010, 06:57:00 AM
how violent does it get, are there parts with bodies destroyed like no ones buisness
You stubble upon many Marine bodies indeed. They aren't heavily mutilated, just covered in blood. I don't remember seeing severed limbs.
But as the Alien, the bodies of your victims remain there, you could even bump into it and have the Marine head you just cut off roll on the ground.
Alien bodies do disappear as soon as you kill them as a Marine though.
Quote from: AJL on Feb 15, 2010, 08:14:14 AM
One guestion about Marine campaign...
So... There is no crouch mode but how does this work in SP ??
A. The level design is such that there simply aren't any such cramped areas
where you couldn't fit in without crouching...
B. Such areas do exist but since you can't crouch, you can't get there and
if your destination is through such area then you must simply take some
detours to get ahead...
C. There are such areas and when you try to go there you do crouch but
it happens automatically...
I'd say it's a mix between A and B.
Areas never require you to crouch to get anywhere... you get stairs, elevators, doors, and sometimes you get prompted to climb over rubble.
Not beeing able to crouch isn't a problem as long as you only face Aliens.
Quote from: AJL on Feb 15, 2010, 08:14:14 AMÖöh... Wait a Second guestion...
In MP it seems you can have only 4 PR nades and there is no reloading...
(I mean they just "teleport" inside your weapon as you pick them up...)
How are they in SP ??
It's just the same as in the demo I'm afraid. Limit is 4 in SP too, and there is no reloading animation when you pick a nade.
What I did enjoy though, is the fact you get first person animations for almost everything you do : Push a switch, open a door, type on a keyboard, offer shoulder to a friendly character. You get to see the hands/arms of your character do everything, that's great for immersion.
gg Rebellion on this.
Quote from: Elude on Feb 15, 2010, 10:36:30 AM
Is nightmare mode unlocked from the start or do we have to unlock it by beating it first on hard? I've seen the nightmare mode in the menu on some previous videos if your curious of why I ask the question.
It'd be really gay if it was locked.
Nightmare mode is available right from the start.
You get zero checkpoints in this mode.
Spoiler
Wait, so in Nightmare, is you die, it's right back to the start of the campaign?! Even on the last level!?
Quote from: VEF214 on Feb 15, 2010, 01:09:46 PM
Are the animations good for the spoiler above you just mentioned?
Depends what you mean by good.
They get their job done, yes.
Spoiler
Once you blow off one of their legs, they fall on the ground and then proceed to sit using one of their arms... once they are settled good, they start shooting at you from this position.
The animation of the synthetics is good ... but the synthetics themselves aren't fun to fight IMO. The Marine gameplay doesn't fit well fighting enemies with firearms, to me.
Quote from: Xenodog on Feb 15, 2010, 01:30:21 PMSpoiler
Wait, so in Nightmare, is you die, it's right back to the start of the campaign?! Even on the last level!?
More like back from the beginning of the level.
I haven't played this mode yet, but I would assume so.
Nightmare means no checkpoints, so you restart from the begining of the mission not the campaign (as that would be a tad harsh), try seeing if you can "complete marine campaign on Nightmare without dying and only using the pistol" took me bloomin ages to do that :/
Quote from: Eidotemit on Feb 15, 2010, 12:31:35 PM
Wait.... so you're saying there is a crouch!
;D
Heh
I just completed the Pred campaign... so from now on I'll be able to answer questions regarding any of the campaigns :)
Who/what are the bosses for the Pred campaign?
Also, how long or short is it compared to the Alien and Marine campaigns?
And a question for all three campaigns, do you get anything at all when you finish them?
How would you rate the Marine A.I. dealing with the use of focus jump, cloaking, and mimicries.
Are there a lot of Marine vs. Alien battles?
Where do you find all your weapons?
Replay value?
How long did each campaign take to complete? ie marine 6 alien 2 predator 3 (Like that)
Once again, are the aliens so slow like we saw in this marnie gameplay trailer? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HW3X8lNx51I
Or they speed up as you play on higher difficult.
Quote from: Namihana on Feb 15, 2010, 03:19:41 PMWho/what are the bosses for the Pred campaign?
This.
Quote from: Namihana on Feb 15, 2010, 03:19:41 PM
Who/what are the bosses for the Pred campaign?
The bosses of the Pred campaign are ...
Spoiler
The Praetorian and the Predalien (as the final boss).
Quote from: Namihana on Feb 15, 2010, 03:19:41 PMAlso, how long or short is it compared to the Alien and Marine campaigns?
Quote from: Predator:o:95 on Feb 15, 2010, 03:25:24 PM
How long did each campaign take to complete? ie marine 6 alien 2 predator 3 (Like that)
Yeah, the Marine SP is definitely the longest. It has much more variety too, in terms of environnements.
As the Alien and the Pred, you basically backtrack or go through places you already visited as the Marine, except the Marines has a few exclusive areas (Pred also has one or two).
The Alien SP is clearly the shortest... Pred is just a bit shorter than the Marine's.
Quote from: Namihana on Feb 15, 2010, 03:19:41 PMAnd a question for all three campaigns, do you get anything at all when you finish them?
Apart from achievements, nothing I noticed yet.
Quote from: VEF214 on Feb 15, 2010, 03:21:24 PM
How would you rate the Marine A.I. dealing with the use of focus jump, cloaking, and mimicries.
Pretty dumb. Seriously, as soon as you get the hang of the Pred mechanics, Marines aren't a threat AT ALL.
You can just keep using the distracting device to lure one of them away from his squad, stealth kill and repeat until everybody's dead.
Some of them do have motion sensors (you can even hear it blip), so they will get alerted if you move too fast around them. They will fire blindly at times too.
If you stay still when cloaked they can't see you, they will only notice you if you let them come REALLY close. But even if that happens, you can easily dispose of them with melee (strong attack + light attack / trophy kill and it's over).
Quote from: VEF214 on Feb 15, 2010, 03:21:24 PMAre there a lot of Marine vs. Alien battles?
A few, yes. It's nice cause you feel like the Masterchief from
Halo : CE during these parts, as you can choose to just let them fight and slip unnoticed, or butt in. Xenos will come after you if they survive the Marines though.
Quote from: VEF214 on Feb 15, 2010, 03:21:24 PMWhere do you find all your weapons?
Depends.
Spoiler
On the bodies of fallen comrades, or in Pred temple altars.
Quote from: VEF214 on Feb 15, 2010, 03:21:24 PMReplay value?
Probably worth replaying to get all the collectables (audio logs, royal jelly, Pred belts) or try to beat Nightmare mode.
Quote from: nyce on Feb 15, 2010, 03:25:32 PM
Once again, are the aliens so slow like we saw in this marnie gameplay trailer? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HW3X8lNx51I
Already answered that on page 7 (http://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/index.php?topic=29182.msg639269#msg639269) bro :)
Quote from: nyce on Feb 15, 2010, 03:25:32 PMOr they speed up as you play on higher difficult.
Only played Hard so far, so I can't tell just yet. They probably sustain and deal more damage on higher difficulties.
How many polys has the first level?. Kidding.. :P
my sorry, thanks for the info anyway!
Quote from: AJL on Feb 15, 2010, 12:48:39 PM
Quote from: S.Y.L on Feb 15, 2010, 12:29:27 PM
Quote from: AJL on Feb 15, 2010, 08:14:14 AM
So... There is no crouch mode but how does this work in SP ??
same as it does in MP.... it`s not there.
.. are we not saying this right? :D
WE ? No.. YOU... You are not... Reading it right... (At all propably) ::)
I am guessing, as soon as you noticed the word crouch in there you
stopped reading (and of course missed the whole question) and you
just gave that same standard there is no crouch mode reply which
had nothing to do with my question... :-\
IF you would have read my post you should have noticed that I did
not ask how this Crouch mode (which don't exist) work in SP ::)
I asked how the SP works without it...
you`re dead right, i stopped reading entirely.
any question you may have regarding crouch is pointless BECAUSE it`s not there.
have you played the demo? it works like that but not online.
QuoteSpoiler
The Praetorian and the Predalien (as the final boss).
Spoiler
Damn nice, i would love to own the predalien :D
Is the marine campaign on its own (without the alien and pred ones added) longer than a normal fps like say call of dutys campaign ?
Didn't play CoD games.
Any average player could complete the Marine SP in one afternoon straight IMO.
Like I said, it's problaby gonna be 5 - 7 hours long depending on players.
oh good so on average marine6 alien2-3 predator5-6 that is 20 hours in all is that how long it took you ?
:)
Pred took me about 4 hours. Alien took around 2 hours ... added with Marine's, that's about 12 hours.
For me.
Is tequilla sexy?
You could say that. At first I thought Michelle Rodriguez was the voice actor, but she just has the same kind of voice, that's all.
I think her voice might be a little too gentle for the character ... but it's good overall.
Quote from: WeaN on Feb 15, 2010, 04:13:28 PM
Pred took me about 4 hours. Alien took around 2 hours ... added with Marine's, that's about 12 hours.
For me.
oh a bit off then
Quote from: WeaN on Feb 15, 2010, 04:18:00 PM
You could say that. At first I thought Michelle Rodriguez was the voice actor, but she just has the same kind of voice, that's all.
I think her voice might be a little too gentle for the character ... but it's good overall.
is michelle rodrigues the girl from avatar ?
yeh and the fast and the furious
the first one ? is she like the sister of vin diesel in the movie i mean not real life
no
Shes vin diesels girlfriend.
Reposting for answers; It seems it was over looked :P
Quote from: InfestedGoat on Feb 15, 2010, 06:41:09 AM
In some videos I saw it looked like if you are an Alien, you can be 2 feet away from them moving and they wont see you. Is this the same in Hard mode?
Also, if you have been seen, how easy or hard is it to hide in the shadows and lose them?
Do you see a scenes where a marine is getting implanted by a facehugger, A marine in a cacoon or a marine skinned alive?
I know I saw in a vid of skinned humans hanging from trees but I doubt you see a human being skinned alive.
Spoiler
How does the Predalien fight go? Also, what relevance does the Predalien have to the story of the Predator campaign?
Quote from: InfestedGoat on Feb 15, 2010, 04:24:27 PMReposting for answers; It seems it was over looked :P
It was not. Please check page 10 (http://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/index.php?topic=29182.msg639787#msg639787).
Quote from: xUSMCx on Feb 15, 2010, 04:26:05 PM
Do you see a scenes where a marine is getting implanted by a facehugger, A marine in a cacoon or a marine skinned alive?
Spoiler
Yes for the first two. But you won't see people getting skinned alive. Just hanging, just like in the Predator movies.
Quote from: Toxicon on Feb 15, 2010, 04:30:21 PM
Spoiler
How does the Predalien fight go? Also, what relevance does the Predalien have to the story of the Predator campaign?
Now that's a very big spoiler. But since you asked :
Spoiler
The Predalien is a result of Six having harvested an Elite Predator during the Alien SP.
The Predator player has to face the Predalien as the final boss in the Predator SP.
You face the Predalien underground, just below the Pred temple, in a lava pool with very few places where you can step safely. The Predalien attack pattern is pretty simple ... it will try to get close to melee (it's very powerful). When you deal enough damage, it will go to higher ground and make the ground tremble so you get less and less room to stay safe from the lava.
You get unlimited energy during the fight, so you can spam plasma caster and mines as much as you like.
do you get to fight alongside other predators.
Quote from: lilj25 on Feb 15, 2010, 04:37:05 PM
do you get to fight alongside other predators.
Spoiler
No you don't.
So sorry Wean, I must have over looked! :D Thank you
how many story charaters is there in all.
I'm not sure why everyone kept thinking she's based on or voiced by Rodriguez. It's like everyone knows her as the only Latino actress in the world. :)
If anything, her voice sounds more like Eliza Dushku's (if she did an emphasis on saying the character's name with an accent), but I doubt it's a recognised actor who does it.
How much gamerscore did you get doing one run through for each campaign?
Spoiler
About the Predalien.
I read your last comment about its fight, but does it behave in a manner that isnt like normal aliens?
I'm curious because I cant understand why it wasn't fitted for a MP skin. Based on what you've seen is there a good reason for its exclusion in MP?
Do you get to fight or see any chestbursters? I thought that was pretty cool in AVP2.
Most of these answers can simply be found by perusing the video links, guys. :)
Quote from: PsychoticMarik on Feb 15, 2010, 05:17:59 PM
Spoiler
About the Predalien.
I read your last comment about its fight, but does it behave in a manner that isnt like normal aliens?
I'm curious because I cant understand why it wasn't fitted for a MP skin. Based on what you've seen is there a good reason for its exclusion in MP?
Spoiler
It behaves just like any other Aliens, except it takes more damage and seems to have a thing for hitting the ground with fists in displays of hostility.
It's probably being saved for an expansion pack, so that people will have an incentive to purchase it.
Quote from: RoyaleDuke on Feb 15, 2010, 05:20:04 PM
Do you get to fight or see any chestbursters? I thought that was pretty cool in AVP2.
Spoiler
Only in the initial Alien cinematic and, as the Marine, you have to make a choice whether or not to kill someone before their own emerges.
what is a young blood
i got mine early too i guess me and you are in the same boat.
How are the 360 singleplayer graphics compared to the multiplayer demo?
QuoteSpoiler
It behaves just like any other Aliens, except it takes more damage and seems to have a thing for hitting the ground with fists in displays of hostility.
It's probably being saved for an expansion pack, so that people will have an incentive to purchase it.
Well that's certainly what I'm hoping for.
Thanks.
Quote from: xUSMCx on Feb 15, 2010, 05:17:54 PM
How much gamerscore did you get doing one run through for each campaign?
480.
Quote from: PsychoticMarik on Feb 15, 2010, 05:17:59 PM
Spoiler
About the Predalien.
I read your last comment about its fight, but does it behave in a manner that isnt like normal aliens?
I'm curious because I cant understand why it wasn't fitted for a MP skin. Based on what you've seen is there a good reason for its exclusion in MP?
Not really. If you want my opinion, Rebellion isn't being honest about that.
Spoiler
Since they did put a Praetorian skin for MP, they could do just the same about the Predalien if they really wanted to. The Praetorian is much bigger, and that didn't prevent them from shrinking it so it could work for MP.
I feel the same as Xenomorphine on that matter.
Quote from: RoyaleDuke on Feb 15, 2010, 05:20:04 PM
Do you get to fight or see any chestbursters? I thought that was pretty cool in AVP2.
Already answered on page 3 (http://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/index.php?topic=29182.msg638898#msg638898) ;)
Quote from: lilj25 on Feb 15, 2010, 05:32:21 PM
what is a young blood
An experienced Predator. Individuals the elders consider as "newbies", if you will.
Quote from: BSW624 on Feb 15, 2010, 05:46:19 PM
How are the 360 singleplayer graphics compared to the multiplayer demo?
About the same, really.
Spoiler
Is it explained how the Runners (Brown, Spitting Aliens) were bred?
How would you rate the 3 SP campaigns? in a scale from 1 to 10
and why :)
try not to post any spoilers plz :)
to find out who does the voices check at the back of the book for voiceover cast not every game lists them but a lot do and i mean the book you get in the game case
Quote from: Xenodog on Feb 15, 2010, 07:35:02 PM
Spoiler
Is it explained how the Runners (Brown, Spitting Aliens) were bred?
Not really.
Spoiler
Once you get into the jungle area, they say something along the line of "We encountered a new breed of xenos ... they are faster and they spit acid". And nothing else.
Quote from: One158 on Feb 15, 2010, 07:36:00 PM
How would you rate the 3 SP campaigns? in a scale from 1 to 10
and why :)
try not to post any spoilers plz :)
Sure.
Marine SP : 8,5 (for the overall experience, but I would give the last third of it a 6)
Alien SP : 7
Pred SP : 7
I definitely liked the Marine SP more. It's longer, more challenging and richer. Alien and Pred SPs tend to become redundant after a while.
The Alien SP starts great though. It had potential but it lacked content.
The Predator SP starts slowly, but it gets more enjoyable as you go. Once you get all the Pred equipement it becomes a bit too easy.
So.. hard to resist opening those spoilers.. x)
Quote from: Ironseven on Feb 15, 2010, 08:42:45 PM
So.. hard to resist opening those spoilers.. x)
Yea trust me, it's better you don't, they've ruined the whole story =D it's better thaat you don't know. :)
Is sgt kaneko in single player.
Nope, afraid not.
how many story characters is there.
Quote from: lilj25 on Feb 16, 2010, 12:24:25 AM
how many story characters is there.
wean answered this on a earlier page only
Spoiler
tequila and van zandt
Quote from: PsychoticMarik on Feb 15, 2010, 01:20:30 AM
Spoiler
This may be a stupid question, but how much of Queen #6 do you really see?
Does the games story leave obvious openings for a sequel other than this?
I think they already confirmed they would be making a sequel
How would you rate the game overall?(barring MP as no one is playing yet)
Have you tried survivor yet?
If so...how far have you managed to get?
Praetorian and predaliens present?
Spoiler
I have seen all three endings now. Yes they are defaintly should make a sequel.
I wanted to know if the queen was in survivor. Thatd be cool...
Quote from: lilj25 on Feb 16, 2010, 12:00:58 AM
Is sgt kaneko in single player.
I don't remember seeing him. The only ones who get actually mentionned are Tequila, Franco and Van Zandt.
Quote from: RoyaleDuke on Feb 16, 2010, 02:22:41 AM
How would you rate the game overall?(barring MP as no one is playing yet)
Only for SP, I'd give a 7.
SP is ok, but not excellent. It has a lot of unused potential IMO. Story could have used more depth too.
Quote from: PsychoticMarik on Feb 16, 2010, 02:26:46 AM
Have you tried survivor yet?
If so...how far have you managed to get?
Praetorian and predaliens present?
Yeah, tried Survivor. It starts pretty easy, first waves are Brown Aliens only (they seem to be the weakest). By wave 4 you get Warriors, and Praetorians by wave 8, but they are Warrior sized, just like the MP skin. Haven't seen Predaliens yet.
I lasted 9 minutes :D
Quote from: afrocat on Feb 16, 2010, 02:57:54 AM
I wanted to know if the queen was in survivor. Thatd be cool...
Can't say.
Did your first wave aliens (runners) had the dome ? In my version the dont have it.
Well, yeah ... just like the SP Brown Aliens, you know ? They had a smooth see through dome.
Edit : You just made me doubt. I have to admit, as soon as I saw they didn't have tubes in the back, I didn't bother to check whether they were different from the SP ones.
I'm gonna check right now.
Edit2 : I checked, and they do have smooth domes. Brown Aliens with black smooth dome. But you can see ridges under the dome, cause it's see through. Just like the alien from the third movie... I played on the Mausoleum map cause it has more light.
Now that you have finished all 3, if you had to do it again what order would you play them in?...do you think it would make a difference to the story?
Strange ... I must check again then I could swore there were no dome... Or it is too transperent
Quote from: Rikomaru on Feb 16, 2010, 01:03:04 PM
Strange ... I must check again then I could swore there were no dome... Or it is too transperent
I've seen pictures / video around the web showing Aliens (brown / runner / hox-dog-Alien or whatever you call it) without dome.
I guess Rebellion release many skins for each models with random spawn which give more variety to the game.
I have just one question although it might've been answered.
Spoiler
The Predator Ending. Thanks!
Quote from: andy1811 on Feb 16, 2010, 12:44:21 PM
Now that you have finished all 3, if you had to do it again what order would you play them in?...do you think it would make a difference to the story?
Marine - Alien - Predator seems the best order to play the campaign in, in my opinion.
Even if the Alien SP starts before the Marine's, you get to see the consequences of what the Marine does only during the Alien SP.
Same for Pred. Six does stuff you only the see the consequences when you play Pred SP.
That's why I would recommend to play in that order.
Quote from: The PredBen on Feb 16, 2010, 03:15:34 PM
I have just one question although it might've been answered.
Spoiler
The Predator Ending. Thanks!
The Predator ending :
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Defeat Abomination (Predalien), destroy temple. Discover Alien homeworld location. The End.
I know you probably haven't played multiplayer much, but can you confirm female skin(s) for marine in mp?
Sorry, I'm not able to answer that question at that time, as I haven't been able to play MP yet.
But I remember the skin list from the demo mentionned a Marine named Connor, which is the name of a female Marine during the campaign.
So I guess that's a good sign.
With so many people getting the game all over the board, you should get an answer to your question soon.
I recommend asking over at the Skin checklist (http://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/index.php?topic=27472.0) thread :)
Awesome, thanks for that bit of info.
Also, WeaN, what platform do you play on?
Because I've heard reports of the Predator campaign freezing up on the PS3 version of the game.
Did any freezing happen on your gameplays?
Been playing on the 360 version and never had such a problem.
I only encountered frame rate slowdowns when facing huge number of enemies towards the end of the game.
Love all the info just read all the pages no spoilers though I am saving that for friday ;)
TELL ME ITS TRUE!
(From SEGA forums)
-now that the game is out, anything different from the demo?
-They fixed the blinding muzzle flash. (at least on 360)
Quote from: nyce on Feb 16, 2010, 07:37:15 PM
TELL ME ITS TRUE!
(From SEGA forums)
-now that the game is out, anything different from the demo?
-They fixed the blinding muzzle flash. (at least on 360)
:D I hope so.
Just wanted to know, has anything graphically been changed (better/worse) since demo or is it the same?
Did anyone buy the Hunter Edition? How does the face-hugger model look? Is it worth it?
Didn't get the Hunter Edition, but I think you might be able to get more information about it in the dedicated thread.
Quote from: nyce on Feb 16, 2010, 07:37:15 PM-now that the game is out, anything different from the demo?
-They fixed the blinding muzzle flash. (at least on 360)
Quote from: Caosss on Feb 16, 2010, 09:39:05 PM
Just wanted to know, has anything graphically been changed (better/worse) since demo or is it the same?
It's about the same as the demo, really. I didn't notice any drastic changes.
Afterall, the demo was only 6 weeks younger than the final game...
Hey WeaN this might be dumb asking but how do you kill the queen? I don't know what i'm doing wrong.
Activate lever. At first it doesn't work, so you gotta wait till Tequila finds a solution.
Then shoot the canisters as they turn red ... then activate lever one last time. That's it.
sorry...figured out how to finish the queen when I woke up and was sober and the thing I never did was blow up the barrels next to her
Quote from: WeaN on Feb 14, 2010, 03:37:48 PM
Hi guys.
I was lucky enough to get my hands on the game a bit early and managed to complete all three campaigns.
I know a lot of people here are still curious about a lot of stuff, whether it's gameplay or story related, so I'm willing to answer any question regarding SP :)
If your question is related to the storyline, be sure to use spoiler tags to preserve other members.
I will also use tags to answer such questions.
Which version did you play? (ps3,360 or PC?) I was wondering if you had freezing in the Predator SP campaign...mine did that on PS3.
Quote from: rufuzmitchell on Feb 17, 2010, 02:09:37 PM
Quote from: WeaN on Feb 14, 2010, 03:37:48 PM
Hi guys.
I was lucky enough to get my hands on the game a bit early and managed to complete all three campaigns.
I know a lot of people here are still curious about a lot of stuff, whether it's gameplay or story related, so I'm willing to answer any question regarding SP :)
If your question is related to the storyline, be sure to use spoiler tags to preserve other members.
I will also use tags to answer such questions.
He played on xbox 360.
Which version did you play? (ps3,360 or PC?) I was wondering if you had freezing in the Predator SP campaign...mine did that on PS3.
I am playing as a predator and have reached the Research Lab Level. I am at the part where Wayland talks to the predator about family history. The next objective says to "Escape Wayland's Trap" but I can't. I looked up a video to see what I am supposed to do, which is shot the venting system with the plasma cannon. However the venting system does not vent and I am stuck in the little room. Is this a glitch, I am sure I didn't miss anything. Anyone else have this problem and know how to solve it.
I knows it lame but I cant get by the part as the marine were you have to cross the bridge into the deeper mine. I keep dieing. All I have for weapon is the pistol and 3 shells for the shotie. Wtf am I doing wrong. I blow the hell out of the bugs with the gas tanks on the bridge but doesnt work. thanks.
I never had a point where I needed to use the plasma caster. I recall there being and opening in the room you need to escape through. Sorry but I just did the marine campaign so Predator is a little fuzzy. Hope you spot your escape.
Spear/attack the control panel to the right of the doorway. It opens soon after Weyland is done speaking. It is to the right of the door you are facing as you step in. ;)
Yeah I tried all that, I tried every possible thing. I know that control panel is supposed to vent or something, and a computer voice should come up saying something, which I believe is to prompt you to continue. However after Wayland is done talking nothing happens and I am just stuck there. I watched a video and saw how others did it. That Control panel is supposed to vent some gas and then you attack the control panel, but in my game it doesn't.
You need to hit it with the spear. No other weapon will work.
Edit: Didn't realize you already tried that. Sorry
If it seems glitched, try restarting the mission.
Did that too. Still didn't work. I might start the entire campaign over and if it still does I'll be at a loss
Oh and I have this game for the PC it is possible this problem does not exist on the 360 or PS3 Versions
the computer voice is supposed to say "Engaging Enviromental Counter Measures" but when i play it does not happen. the Last thing that happens is Wayland say's he wants the thing taken alive, the consule says checkpoint and then nothing. The control panel (venting system) is highlighted with the map marker but it doesn't matter what i do with it does not work, with wrist blade, spear, Shoulder cannon, mines, or disk.
Try verifying your cache. It's definitely bugged if it does not start venting after that last line.
So, I'm stuck in the part where you're at the ruins and have to find a way to one of the locked rooms with two civilians inside. How the heck I get there?? Been trying for an hour to find a way, but just cant find it. :-[
Thanks in advance! :)
Quote from: Dowly on Feb 18, 2010, 06:47:09 AM
So, I'm stuck in the part where you're at the ruins and have to find a way to one of the locked rooms with two civilians inside. How the heck I get there?? Been trying for an hour to find a way, but just cant find it. :-[
Thanks in advance! :)
The one with the pressure plates? Just activate all the pressure plates and a cinematic will show you where to go.
Ah, righto. Thanks!
Spoiler
You have to go to the top of the ruins and go down the shaft. It will drop you on a pressure pad. There are two more at either end of the ruins.
Since their was no official help thread, so I had no choice to post here. In the second level in the Xeno story mode, I need help trying to get out of the room that you start out in? It looks like you have to travel inside the fan, but it's seems you have to find a way to get through it? Can someone help me?
Go in a vent on the wall.
Try going inside of their, and seems like their is a dead end since their is bars that is blocking the way.
Oh that...
I got stuck there for a while, I don't even know how I got through it, I just found a vent on the side wall of a vent at some point.
Ok I will try to look at level again, and see what I can find.
To get past (actually, to get away from) the huge fan, just sprint. It's dumb I know, but most people don't even think about it at first.
If you move normally you'll end up just like your fellow alien just a few secs before ;D
I just played alien sp today when I finished marine and pred sp and If your talking about the fan that sucks you up if you crawl in the shaft use the focus mode to jump into the little crawl spaces.Taking a break for a bit cause playing as alien for an hour and a half made me nauseous so i'll back track to see exactly which one you are talking about in 30-60 min.
Quote from: WeaN on Feb 19, 2010, 02:25:07 AM
To get past (actually, to get away from) the huge fan, just sprint. It's dumb I know, but most people don't even think about it at first.
If you move normally you'll end up just like your fellow alien just a few secs before ;D
I pounced my way down it lol
Hi,
I am stuck trying to beat the first Alien hybrid (Just after the pyramid and you cryo sleep the infested soldier)
Thanks
Mark
Hybrid? O_o The only hybrid I can think of is the Predalien, and that isn't faught as a marine.
Unless you are talking about the Praetorian...in which case thats not a hybrid. The Praetorians are the queen's guards. They are just bigger, tougher aliens. Just shoot at it and run when it gets to close. Its not any harder to take down than a normal alien, it just takes more bullets.
On hard that guy is very tough
Spoiler
especially since he charges you once you kill off 2/3 of the other aliens. What I ended up doing was using my grenade launcher to knock it to its feet and then using the sniper rifle to put a full clip into it while it was down while i ran away from it. then rinse and repeat. Run around boxes while you reload and counter its melee attacks if its too close but keep as much distance as you can. Don't let it chase you up to the hall way you fist see it from, one you dispatch 2/3 of the aliens get out of that hallway before you are trapped.
That's the best bet. Nade's to knock them down are very useful. Keep your distance. They're powerful.
Quote from: Hellspawn28 on Feb 19, 2010, 02:14:33 AM
Since their was no official help thread, so I had no choice to post here. In the second level in the Xeno story mode, I need help trying to get out of the room that you start out in? It looks like you have to travel inside the fan, but it's seems you have to find a way to get through it? Can someone help me?
Vent on wall behind fan you'll be facing it, hold focus, inside vent carry on holding focus there will be an exit at your feet.
I need help on Alien campaign. :P
When your in the jungle compound place, with the part of the crashed Marlow (after you destroy the radio antennae and wipe out all the marines in the swamp place.)
How do you get into the Civilian's building?
Quote from: Xenodog on Feb 19, 2010, 05:43:06 PM
I need help on Alien campaign. :P
When your in the jungle compound place, with the part of the crashed Marlow (after you destroy the radio antennae and wipe out all the marines in the swamp place.)
How do you get into the Civilian's building?
There's vents all around the area, cant remember which one, but one of them leads into the building. Check the ones near the building.
One of them ehh?
Thought so, checked loads but couldn't find the way. :P
Shall look harder tomorrow.
There are vents on the floors near the buildings. They lead under the buildings.
About Six:
Spoiler
Is it ever explained in detail why that Alien is smarter and more special than other Aliens?
Quote from: DB on Feb 20, 2010, 11:28:22 PM
About Six:
Spoiler
Is it ever explained in detail why that Alien is smarter and more special than other Aliens?
The ending should've given you the answer...
anyone beat the alien campaign on nightmare yet?
i'll do that after i beat marine in nightmare.... alien is my least favorite species
Quote from: Xeno dude on Feb 21, 2010, 12:20:50 AM
anyone beat the alien campaign on nightmare yet?
I think Wean best Marine,Alien,and Predator on nightmare.
Quote from: Xeno dude on Feb 21, 2010, 12:20:50 AM
anyone beat the alien campaign on nightmare yet?
I think I got one level to go, just cant remember which one. ;D (They really should have an option to see statistics of the different missions, the difficulty you played it on etc.)
Anywho, I think anyone can beat it on NM, it really isnt any different from easy (that is, if you play it as an alien should, sneaky sneaky etc.).
Ok, just started the Predator campaign. Can anyone tell me why I don't have freaking Xeno vision yet?
Quote from: Dusk on Feb 21, 2010, 02:46:21 AM
Ok, just started the Predator campaign. Can anyone tell me why I don't have freaking Xeno vision yet?
Because you get it later? :D
This is freaking nonsense. Why would I get it later?
Quote from: Dusk on Feb 21, 2010, 02:57:23 AM
This is freaking nonsense. Why would I get it later?
It's not like you automatically have all weapons and gear when you start the SP campaigns. IMO, that would be less of a challenge.
I'm not talking about not having all weapons and gear. But you should have the goddamn essentials when you know you're going on a hunt involving Xenos. Which means your darn helmet should support the proper vision.
I'm currently on the run, after I got the disc, and now finally understand why the reviewers complaint about the focus jump. Why can't I jump to freaking places that make sense? Like the platforms right above me, but no. Somehow they are off limits for the focus jump.
Getting Alien vision later is an artificial method of making the game harder. Although it's only a minor annoyance in most cases because you can still lock on with your shoulder cannon in regular vision.
Quote from: Dusk on Feb 21, 2010, 03:16:50 AM
I'm not talking about not having all weapons and gear. But you should have the goddamn essentials when you know you're going on a hunt involving Xenos. Which means your darn helmet should support the proper vision.
Predators work in mysterious ways.
I dug it. Meant that fighting Aliens was a bit more tense, and it also means that there's genuine progression later when it comes to fighting them.
Quote from: Dusk on Feb 21, 2010, 03:16:50 AMI'm currently on the run, after I got the disc, and now finally understand why the reviewers complaint about the focus jump. Why can't I jump to freaking places that make sense? Like the platforms right above me, but no. Somehow they are off limits for the focus jump.
Something to do with finding the right angle for a jump. That particular part is particularly frustrating when it comes to jumping, but you don't need to access the upper part of the room anyway.
Quote from: Porkus Maximus on Feb 21, 2010, 04:16:10 AM
Getting Alien vision later is an artificial method of making the game harder.
It's almost insulting. Also, from a logic standpoint it makes no sense. So I can only aquire Alien vision by digging up some ancient mask, because my new helmet somehow doesn't support it. Well, I finished the Predator Campaign and it took me like 3-4 hours. It doesn't come close to the narrative of AvP2's Predator Campaign and was definitely nowhere near as enjoyable. Although I had some great combi-stick related moments. But overall, I'm glad I haven't bought it like I intended. I'll wait till the price drops before I get it.
Quote from: MadassAlex on Feb 21, 2010, 04:44:00 AM
Predators work in mysterious ways.
I dug it. Meant that fighting Aliens was a bit more tense, and it also means that there's genuine progression later when it comes to fighting them.
Honestly, it was dumb. Predators rely on their different vision modes to hunt their prey, so they should have all appropriate vision modes from the start. And it wasn't any sort of genuine progression, like Maximus said, it was nothing but an artificial method to make the game somewhat harder, by depriving you of something that you should logically have from the very beginning.
I'm kinda stuck.What am I supposed to do?
if you mean the one with the fan just focus jump to a lower vent and repeat
Really? I just sprinted.
Quote from: Pauk -d Paya on Feb 21, 2010, 07:16:10 AM
if you mean the one with the fan just focus jump to a lower vent and repeat
Tnx!I'll go to do it now.
Quote from: Dusk on Feb 21, 2010, 04:50:28 AM
It doesn't come close to the narrative of AvP2's Predator Campaign and was definitely nowhere near as enjoyable.
I think you're seeing through nostalgia there. Unlimited energy at the tap of a button and spammable plasma caster = boring as all hell. Especially since there was no balance; you were either blasting the Aliens from a distance with ease or getting mobbed by them in hand-to-hand combat.
Quote from: Dusk on Feb 21, 2010, 04:50:28 AMHonestly, it was dumb. Predators rely on their different vision modes to hunt their prey, so they should have all appropriate vision modes from the start. And it wasn't any sort of genuine progression, like Maximus said, it was nothing but an artificial method to make the game somewhat harder, by depriving you of something that you should logically have from the very beginning.
There are any number of possible cultural reasons that you didn't start with Alien vision. If nothing else, Predators hunt such a wide variety of prey that no one mask really encapsulates everything.
Quote from: MadassAlex on Feb 21, 2010, 07:49:51 AM
There are any number of possible cultural reasons that you didn't start with Alien vision. If nothing else, Predators hunt such a wide variety of prey that no one mask really encapsulates everything.
but alien vision is rather fundamental, and i too find it a bit silly, why does the predator have to be handicapped like this?
it's like the first avp movie where the preds show up with random items in their gear that melt and missing shoulder cannons, yes it's cool if some items are earned, but the fundamentals should be available from the start
it would be good if once u complete a sp camp u could choose to start the camp again with all gear. on the diff setting u already completed it on like u can on god of war just for fun ya know. it dint stop me from completing all 3 camps on nightmare though
Quote from: happypred on Feb 21, 2010, 07:58:07 AM
but alien vision is rather fundamental, and i too find it a bit silly, why does the predator have to be handicapped like this?
Not much of a handicap, in my mind. Just force the Aliens into a position where they have to come at you from the front and you're good.
Quote from: happypred on Feb 21, 2010, 07:58:07 AMit's like the first avp movie where the preds show up with random items in their gear that melt and missing shoulder cannons, yes it's cool if some items are earned, but the fundamentals should be available from the start
What says Alien vision is fundamental - especially if Aliens are considered the most challenging, revered and high-end prey?
Quote from: MadassAlex on Feb 21, 2010, 07:49:51 AM
I think you're seeing through nostalgia there. Unlimited energy at the tap of a button and spammable plasma caster = boring as all hell. Especially since there was no balance; you were either blasting the Aliens from a distance with ease or getting mobbed by them in hand-to-hand combat.
I'm not purely talking about gameplay.
QuoteThere are any number of possible cultural reasons that you didn't start with Alien vision. If nothing else, Predators hunt such a wide variety of prey that no one mask really encapsulates everything.
Please, just don't. Stop trying to come up with excuses for why Rebellion scewed this part up. It's not like the helmet had 10 other vision modes, all for different situations and the Xeno vision isn't among them because they didn't expect Xenos. For heaven's sake, they went to the planet knowing full well that their Pyramid had been desecrated. A Pyramid that houses a freaking Queen. So knowing you're getting down on that planet, especially after watching footage of Aliens killing your damn youngbloods, why wouldn't you bring the appropriate vision along? The other 2 games had them from the start.
but you dont need it, i dont even use it when i do get except for predalien fight so i can see where hes coming from, early so i can get my spear ready for when he jumps on my platform
It's the freaking Predator. Being able to change visions for the appropriate prey is it's damn schtick. I don't want to have to switch to standard vision, because it ruins the whole immersion factor when I can see everything clearly and in color like an ordinary human.
Quote from: Dusk on Feb 21, 2010, 12:59:49 PM
Please, just don't. Stop trying to come up with excuses for why Rebellion scewed this part up. It's not like the helmet had 10 other vision modes, all for different situations and the Xeno vision isn't among them because they didn't expect Xenos. For heaven's sake, they went to the planet knowing full well that their Pyramid had been desecrated. A Pyramid that houses a freaking Queen. So knowing you're getting down on that planet, especially after watching footage of Aliens killing your damn youngbloods, why wouldn't you bring the appropriate vision along? The other 2 games had them from the start.
I guess the short answer is:
For fun. Same reason the Rookie doesn't start with a pulse rifle and can't get one until a particular scripted point. The limitation imposed on you makes the battles more tense. Because you can't easily point out Aliens until later in the game, you're at their tactical mercy until then. Which is fine. It's fun.
You may as well ask why you don't start with the disc and the combistick. If the Predator knew that he was going into an Alien hotspot, why didn't he bring the full arsenal?
And if nothing else, maybe the Predator just didn't give a damn. Going into an Alien infested zone with a mask that can't point them out? Hell yeah. Classic Predator arrogance. Or perhaps (these) Predators construct their own masks and have to build the vision modes themselves. We don't really know and it doesn't matter.
'Cause it's fun to fight Aliens when you don't know where they are.
I'm looking forward to the sequel already. Then we'll have no vision modes at all and have to stumple around in the dark, just like any other ordinary human. But hey, that increases the challenge so it's fun. Then in the game after that, we'll start bare handed, with no weapons whatsoever and have to find our wristblades on the way, while we're being hunted by humans and aliens. Awesome.
Now stop justifying that crap. We had both vision modes from the start in the previous 2 games. The vision modes were in the demo. But for some braindead reason they decided to change it at last minute and have us look for a ancient mask that is also ugly as sin.
That's just being facetious.
Your plasma caster still locks on. You still get melee lock. They still have to engage in melee combat to damage you.
The only difference is that they'll be more successful at sneaking up on you, but if you position yourself carefully it doesn't even matter.
Why have vision modes at all then if it doesn't matter? You can lock on to humans too without the appropriate vision mode. So from now on then, let's start without them in every game.
This is more of a technical question, but when I'm playing as the Predator I can't sswitch weapons. I can as the Marine, but for some reason I can't switch from wristblades to Plasma caster as a Predator. Anyone know whats going on?
You don't switch from plasmacaster to wristblades, you're using both at the same time. L1 and R1 are for wristblades, R2 is for the plasmacaster. Later when you get additional weapons, you can switch between them on the digi-pad. All the weapons are fired or thrown with R2.
First, you know Gunslinger? (Kill 30 enemies with the pistol) is that online or offline?
And Grim Reaper, does that include the two who commit suicide? And how do you get the one in the labs at the start, and the one in the swamp who hides?
Quote from: Xenodog on Feb 21, 2010, 05:20:23 PM
First, you know Gunslinger? (Kill 30 enemies with the pistol) is that online or offline?
And Grim Reaper, does that include the two who commit suicide? And how do you get the one in the labs at the start, and the one in the swamp who hides?
I got my Gunslinger from SP.
As for harvesting, the ones that suicide can be harvested if you find the right way. Don't think the first civvies count on the first level (as you cant harvest any of them).
What you mean by the swamp thing? AFAIK, there's only 2 there, one that is outside when you go into the area and the other one who is in the building you can get to after you break the antenna thingy. ???
By the sounds of things, sounds to me like they shoulda released Colonial Marines for the single player experience. Sucks they aint releasing it because they opted to release this instead.
Quote from: Dowly on Feb 21, 2010, 05:36:17 PM
Quote from: Xenodog on Feb 21, 2010, 05:20:23 PM
First, you know Gunslinger? (Kill 30 enemies with the pistol) is that online or offline?
And Grim Reaper, does that include the two who commit suicide? And how do you get the one in the labs at the start, and the one in the swamp who hides?
I got my Gunslinger from SP.
As for harvesting, the ones that suicide can be harvested if you find the right way. Don't think the first civvies count on the first level (as you cant harvest any of them).
What you mean by the swamp thing? AFAIK, there's only 2 there, one that is outside when you go into the area and the other one who is in the building you can get to after you break the antenna thingy. ???
Thanks. ;)
Looks like the suicidal ones are gonna' take a little more skill. :P
Quote from: Dusk on Feb 21, 2010, 04:13:04 PM
You don't switch from plasmacaster to wristblades, you're using both at the same time. L1 and R1 are for wristblades, R2 is for the plasmacaster. Later when you get additional weapons, you can switch between them on the digi-pad. All the weapons are fired or thrown with R2.
I'm using a PC though.
Dead Space was scary as hell, they did the same thing that rebellion have done no/rubbish first weapon to scare you and other weapons and gadgets to collect along the way, because if you had all weapons and gadgets to begin with it would'nt be as difficult and you would only complain that there were'nt enough collectables in the game
Quote from: John_Kimble on Feb 20, 2010, 11:47:38 PM
The ending should've given you the answer...
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When? ??? You mean how Six is KO'ed when then Queen dies? Was the Queen supposed to be controlling Six or something?
Quote from: cloverfan98 on Feb 21, 2010, 06:13:34 PM
I'm using a PC though.
Didn't think about that. Just go to options and configurations.
Quote from: DB on Feb 21, 2010, 06:19:15 PM
Quote from: John_Kimble on Feb 20, 2010, 11:47:38 PM
The ending should've given you the answer...
Spoiler
When? ??? You mean how Six is KO'ed when then Queen dies? Was the Queen supposed to be controlling Six or something?
Supposed to be damaging on the Hivemind...It hurts 6.
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But why was Six so special in the first place? Or is just that Six is randomly a smart individual?
Quote from: DB on Feb 21, 2010, 06:22:45 PM
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But why was Six so special in the first place? Or is just that Six is randomly a smart individual?
Because i played as her =o
Quote from: DB on Feb 21, 2010, 06:22:45 PM
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But why was Six so special in the first place? Or is just that Six is randomly a smart individual?
She was special in that she impressed Weyland during the opening cutscene.
Quote from: Corporal Hicks on Feb 21, 2010, 07:26:45 PM
Quote from: DB on Feb 21, 2010, 06:22:45 PM
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But why was Six so special in the first place? Or is just that Six is randomly a smart individual?
She was special in that she impressed Weyland during the opening cutscene.
I thought she was "special" due to her intelligence. Dr. Groves even comments on this in the research labs. Plus, Weyland doesn't kill her in the final cutscene.
Quote from: Uglymufa on Feb 21, 2010, 07:36:43 PM
Quote from: Corporal Hicks on Feb 21, 2010, 07:26:45 PM
Quote from: DB on Feb 21, 2010, 06:22:45 PM
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But why was Six so special in the first place? Or is just that Six is randomly a smart individual?
She was special in that she impressed Weyland during the opening cutscene.
I thought she was "special" due to her intelligence. Dr. Groves even comments on this in the research labs. Plus, Weyland doesn't kill her in the final cutscene.
Use spoiler tags.
Finally beat the alien campaign in nightmare this morning.
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That elite pred at the end was a real pain in the a$$.
That "no checkpoints" where really annoying sometimes -.-
Quote from: Xeno dude on Feb 22, 2010, 12:58:17 PM
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That elite pred at the end was a real pain in the a$$.
Nub, that was a tense battle, but good use of the tail really makes that a one-sided affair.
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A: Not a she.
B: Modified Alien.
C: Coated in 50 containers of "instant Alien mutagen" by the end of the game.
Quote from: MadassAlex on Feb 22, 2010, 01:10:43 PM
Quote from: Xeno dude on Feb 22, 2010, 12:58:17 PM
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That elite pred at the end was a real pain in the a$$.
Nub, that was a tense battle, but good use of the tail really makes that a one-sided affair.
Ah yes, the serpent's fast wall tail wins the day again!
You don't even have to be on the wall for that. If you're far away enough, you can even spam the tail from the ground.
i'm stuck with the alien campaign i'm at the last part on hard
-weaken then harvest the elite predator-
any tips on how to do this
Well.. that was kinda easy i mainly focused on getting him to melee combat me and well melee combat is easy ;)
Hi,
Can I start a Predator campaign with all weapons ?
If I can how ? is it a option or a cheat ?
Dont know if there is a cheat mate but the game is well balanced in SP so you can do without all the weapons anyway. Its a good way to master your melee skills!
Just for fun it would be sweet :P
yeah like god of war that gives you the option to use them or not
On a Nightmare related note: Combat Synthetics can go suck a dick. Fed up of emptying an entire pulserifle clip into their legs, only to get killed by a single shotgun blast. Weyland is a c**t, still haven't killed him yet.
Rage.
i am ennoyed by the pred campaign on ps3 everytime my ps freezes, freakking annoying cant go further
Quote from: Barminator89BE on Feb 23, 2010, 10:52:38 AM
i'm stuck with the alien campaign i'm at the last part on hard
-weaken then harvest the elite predator-
any tips on how to do this
Get in close and use your heavy attack to stun him and also block, then when he is charging up his heavy, strike him with a quick attack. Rinse and repeat.
PS: Make sure to grab him after everytime he falls down or gets stunned. It may not be a successful attack but it does take his health down a bit.
Quote from: Baasje92 on Feb 25, 2010, 11:55:36 PM
i am ennoyed by the pred campaign on ps3 everytime my ps freezes, freakking annoying cant go further
my ps3 does that, not always the same mission/place but only happens when switch vision modes when in melee with xeno
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Quote from: Barminator89BE on Feb 23, 2010, 10:52:38 AM
i'm stuck with the alien campaign i'm at the last part on hard
-weaken then harvest the elite predator-
any tips on how to do this
Get in close and use your heavy attack to stun him and also block, then when he is charging up his heavy, strike him with a quick attack. Rinse and repeat.
PS: Make sure to grab him after everytime he falls down or gets stunned. It may not be a successful attack but it does take his health down a bit.
The easiest way - get close to him and just keep right-clicking, over and over again. Do nothing else, you don't need other buttons. The awesome auto-lock will do the job. It will end very quickly and when he's on low health the *Harvest* will appear and do your thing. It's certainly not hard or fun.
Has Anyone noticed 6's tail change, because at the front of the game it is long and thin and later on in the game it is big like the Praetorian skin in MP? anyone now why?
It's a hidden easter egg in the game: if you fall from the ceiling in 1st or 2nd level, you get the swelling on the tail in later levels.
you'll have to beat the alien campaign to find out ;)
Iv'e completed the game ;D
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Is it Because your a praetorian? or growing to be one
makes sense, no?
Quote from: Velociraptor on Feb 26, 2010, 07:46:29 PM
Iv'e completed the game ;D Spoiler
Is it Because your a praetorian? or growing to be one
Yes.
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I really would've like to get to play 6 at least 1 level as a Praetorian.
8)
Yeah would have been cool :D
Not really. Praetorians suck. Too bulky for an Alien. Not very helping to hide in shadows or squeeze into tight spaces.
Praetorians must get tuxedo fittings at Big and Tall's
Quote from: Velociraptor on Feb 26, 2010, 07:46:29 PM
Iv'e completed the game ;D Spoiler
Is it Because your a praetorian? or growing to be one
You mean queen.
Quote from: Gladius_ on Feb 26, 2010, 08:26:36 PM
Quote from: Velociraptor on Feb 26, 2010, 07:46:29 PM
Iv'e completed the game ;D Spoiler
Is it Because your a praetorian? or growing to be one
You mean queen.
Queens go to Pennington's 14+ store :D
screenshots? I didnt notice any change.
Help plz.
I'm stuck in the alien campaign on the jungle level. There is a guy i need to speak to inside room b03 but i cannot find the way in!!
I have tried the search engine but it didnt like the b03
You need to speak to someone as an alien? Are you sure it's the right campaign?
lol yea i probably have to kill him. There is a green outline of a person in the b03 building targetted by the yellow objective circle.
In my objective notes it says get inside building b03
I've beaten Alien campaign, but I'm not sure what are you exactly referring to, I guess you need to find some ventilation shaft to sneak in there. Just be patient and look around.
Yah remembered. There is an antenna you need to interact with on top of the "house" next to this one, do some stuff, then 2-3 marines will show up and the civilian will come out. Kill the rines and harvest the civvie.
Depends if it's the part in the swamp area, or a bit later inside the compound.
If it's the latter, you need to find a vent and move underground to get inside.
You know to complete the campaigns on Hard / Nightmare, do you have to do in chronological order?
Or can you just do the chapters in any order on hard, so long as you do them all?
How do you harvest the civilian that shoots himself in the head if you break through the door in the Alien campaign?
Quote from: VEF214 on Feb 27, 2010, 08:07:48 PM
How do you harvest the civilian that shoots himself in the head if you break through the door in the Alien campaign?
I did it by going through the vent, sneaking along the ceiling, then pouncing to knock him down before he can reach the pistol, and harvest him when he's down.
Quote from: Xenodog on Feb 27, 2010, 09:29:15 PM
Quote from: VEF214 on Feb 27, 2010, 08:07:48 PM
How do you harvest the civilian that shoots himself in the head if you break through the door in the Alien campaign?
I did it by going through the vent, sneaking along the ceiling, then pouncing to knock him down before he can reach the pistol, and harvest him when he's down.
Where's the vent? I don't know how to even get into that room without using the door you have to open.
Hop on the ceiling outside the room, and keep looking 'till you find the vent, you'll get it eventually.
If not...someone should make a video guide sooner or later.
Its the vent directly above the pile of boxes etc blocking the corridor.
Quote from: Xenodog on Feb 27, 2010, 07:53:09 PM
You know to complete the campaigns on Hard / Nightmare, do you have to do in chronological order?
Or can you just do the chapters in any order on hard, so long as you do them all?
Yes any order as i just beat alien campaign on nightmare starting with last mission first
Quote from: VEF214 on Feb 27, 2010, 08:07:48 PM
How do you harvest the civilian that shoots himself in the head if you break through the door in the Alien campaign?
Easier way stay in the vent area where the first hole is it should have a light above it, go round the corner the marine went down after smashing the light and control panel run all the way to the bottom and hiss till you see the civi walk down the corridor toward you and the marine, once hes under you go back to the vent in the room he and the marine were originally in jump down and wait for him to run back in the room, then grab him, the marine will come to the room just after you harvest him. ps..sorry if i double posted
Quote from: Pauk -d Paya on Feb 28, 2010, 06:56:15 AM
Quote from: Xenodog on Feb 27, 2010, 07:53:09 PM
You know to complete the campaigns on Hard / Nightmare, do you have to do in chronological order?
Or can you just do the chapters in any order on hard, so long as you do them all?
Yes any order as i just beat alien campaign on nightmare starting with last mission first
Cool, thanks.
If you play on Nightmare, I know it's without checkpoints, but is it normal or hard difficulty?
Hard.
Quote from: szuran on Feb 28, 2010, 07:47:22 AM
If you play on Nightmare, I know it's without checkpoints, but is it normal or hard difficulty?
Most of the campaigns feel the same as Hard difficulty, however, I did note that bosses had more health than even Hard difficulty.
And you beat them even when they're stonger? Congratulations. I haven't beaten the queen on Hard difficulty yet, it's hard as hell. Without checkpoints, it'd be a nightmare.
I'd probably lose my go nuts if I dept dieing then redoing the whole level over.
This game is very easy compared to any other Alien games, I've beaten it on hard with no difficulties whatsoever, sure, I died a few times, but there was nothing repulsive about the difficulty.
Although, in a lovely subversion of the usual game design bullshit, the warrior Aliens you fight are amongst the more potent enemies in the game.
Why i don't get xp after single player missions?
(Complete Alien and Predator missions on normal and 4 marine missions on hard)
There is a nice message when you're loading in MP saying - you only get XP in ranked matches.
Quote from: Brother on Feb 28, 2010, 12:28:23 PM
There is a nice message when you're loading in MP saying - you only get XP in ranked matches.
No! my Friend gets a lot xp after complete singleplayer missions and many other people say the same
Quote from: TheAlien on Feb 28, 2010, 12:31:31 PM
Quote from: Brother on Feb 28, 2010, 12:28:23 PM
There is a nice message when you're loading in MP saying - you only get XP in ranked matches.
No! my Friend gets a lot xp after complete singleplayer missions and many other people say the same
That would be an exploit you shouldn't use... ::)
I got the Welcome to The Party achievement after getting killed by the Praetorian in the Marine campaign.
Quote from: VEF214 on Feb 28, 2010, 02:16:46 PM
I got the Welcome to The Party achievement after getting killed by the Praetorian in the Marine campaign.
This was on the xbox i guess?
Quote from: kaljo on Feb 28, 2010, 02:18:09 PM
Quote from: VEF214 on Feb 28, 2010, 02:16:46 PM
I got the Welcome to The Party achievement after getting killed by the Praetorian in the Marine campaign.
This was on the xbox i guess?
Yes.
God damn that is awesome.
Why can't you save your marine buddies. I mean they are like always getting f*cking dragged behind things or inside and you cant even help them lol. Why??
Because it's scripted and suppose to be scary.
Quote from: Hive Tyrant on Mar 20, 2010, 10:03:06 PM
Because it's scripted and suppose to be scary.
Well it works! Especially when their trying to climb the boxes. Poor Charlie Team impaled by giant penises whilst trying to climb boxes.
Like he said it is scripted its sapposed to give you the sense of feeling all alone.
Who has seen the Body in the vent at the second to last Mission? It's just a bit before the Praetorian, infact directly after the Scientist gets smashed off the window and dragged into the vent. Just walk straight out the door and look to your left and there's a different Scientist, only he's body has been twisted into a ridiculous yet creepy pose. It's awesome.
Quote from: ScoobySnax on Mar 21, 2010, 01:14:21 PM
Who has seen the Body in the vent at the second to last Mission? It's just a bit before the Praetorian, infact directly after the Scientist gets smashed off the window and dragged into the vent. Just walk straight out the door and look to your left and there's a different Scientist, only he's body has been twisted into a ridiculous yet creepy pose. It's awesome.
I have... the funny thing is that if you see him smashed into the window and go through the door he's magically gone but if you sit there the poor scientist is dragged into the vent by the Praetorian. Oh and that guy in the vent is like stuffed in there and I almost pissed my pants of laughter.
On the first mission once you walk up the stairs theres like a yellow bulldozer looking thing and you can see someguy with a blue shirt just laying there. Once you get closer he is like dragged up by like a vacuum. LOL
Quote from: CrazyRussian on Mar 21, 2010, 07:54:55 PM
I have... the funny thing is that if you see him smashed into the window and go through the door he's magically gone but if you sit there the poor scientist is dragged into the vent by the Praetorian.
What... seriously? I just walked out and he was already in the vent.
Quote from: CrazyRussian on Mar 21, 2010, 07:54:55 PM
On the first mission once you walk up the stairs theres like a yellow bulldozer looking thing and you can see someguy with a blue shirt just laying there. Once you get closer he is like dragged up by like a vacuum. LOL
First Marine Mission?
Yes seriously it happened no joke.
And also yes it was the first MARINE mission.
Quote from: CrazyRussian on Mar 21, 2010, 10:42:17 PM
Yes seriously it happened no joke.
And also yes it was the first MARINE mission.
I can confirm this after just playing the first marine level last night....also accidentally naded myself on a point blank alien on nightmare mode...level restart ::) :P (no save checkpoints in nightmare mode).
Cheers!
Valheru
Quote from: CrazyRussian on Mar 21, 2010, 10:42:17 PM
Yes seriously it happened no joke.
And also yes it was the first MARINE mission.
Nice Definitely checking it out.
Quote from: Valheru on Mar 22, 2010, 03:59:44 AM
I can confirm this after just playing the first marine level last night....also accidentally naded myself on a point blank alien on nightmare mode...level restart ::) :P (no save checkpoints in nightmare mode).
Just wait 'till the random Headshots at point blank range... you'll be ripping your hair out lol :P
only have refinery and research lab to do on nightmare got to the end of research lab on the first try, just me vs preatorian, thought i had perfect plan as soon as it appeard i turned left ran and jumped over the railing got inside the little room to the left of the elevator killed the 3 warriors and then started laughing to myself when the preatorian came down the steps as i thought i was untouchable in my hidey hole but nooooo the damn thing came in after me, it was too close for me to see what attack it was about to do and shot gun didn't help, before i knew it i was dead and had to start again, so out of frustration i decided too give it a rest if anyone knows a foolproof plan to kill it, it would be much appreciated. Oh and scoobysnax your right exploding heads=death even when you have full health WTF. >:(