Poll
Question:
What Predator design did you like most?
Option 1: Predator 1
votes: 371
Option 2: Predator 2
votes: 195
Option 3: AvP
votes: 64
Option 4: AvPR
votes: 132
Option 5: Predators (Added 2/12/11)
votes: 20
Option 6: The Predator (Added 27/07/20)
votes: 1
I'm curious as to which design the fans liked most. I'm partial to the frst Predator: sweet and simple. ;D
As in face and skin?
I like the first two predator designs very much. Probably go with the first.
Id go for the P2 design, just cause it was a bit darker and malevolent.
I think I still like the original Predator design the most. The one from P2 looked more badass but somehow also more mechanical especially when he was moving the mandibles. The original was way smoother and more natural looking in it's mimic and expressions.
Scar from AVP was cool too. Different but I still liked him a lot. Another individual of the Predator race with his own personality and look. The AVP Elder again was just awesome!!! :)
I didn't really like the insect looking face on the Pred 1, I prefer the Pred 2 design
I like P1 and AvP the most. But the Celtic mask was simply the best and most awesome design. May be another Predator will top that design from AvP2.
Predator 1, hands down.
It seemed more believable and more "alien" than the other designs.
AVP and the original were my favorites, didn't like the extra mandible stubs in the second one.
I thought the colors and designs on the second Predator looked pretty good; they were very elaborate and remided me of a snake-skin.
2nd predator had a unqiue design on his forehead.
Quote from: BrokenTusk on Feb 06, 2007, 01:42:29 AM
AVP and the original were my favorites, didn't like the extra mandible stubs in the second one.
I just watched Predator 2 again last night and I just noticed them... they're ok, but at least they look better than the mandibles in the AvP version. *shudders* I hated those...
I definitely have to agree on that one. Scar just looked stupid. They gave him bigger eyes and stuff so he can apeal more as a hero rather than a villian. :-\
yeah I noticed scar's design, in my eyes looked much too human and heroic. Even though he wiped out nearly half the people he still turned out to be "the big hero"
perhaps he look like that since he was a teen, other then that I did like the AVP design, including more top teeth then the previous ones, actually display more emotions then just anger like confusion and understanding, mandibles despite the size didn't bother me at all. The original was the one that started it all though and had that great menacing look of a warrior.
I still don't like the lion roar :P..
you mean the one they do in all the films ?
Really? I never noticed it except for in AVP. Huh
it was pretty much the same roar from the first movie for all of them, with little differences. unless you're talking about the first human kill in AVP where they're just making noises and spooks the guy, yeah it sounded like a lion, but I believe that was one of the animal sounds used to make the first Predator sound.
huh, some people know this but, did you know that the Extra predators in Pred2 are actually the players from a famous basketball team? Although I forgot which one..
o yeah in the dvd they mention about it and show the group photo and Ian Whyte was a Canadian professional basketball before he did AVP.
The original.
Quote from: BrokenTusk on Feb 07, 2007, 01:50:38 AM
you mean the one they do in all the films ?
I know the one he means. It's literally a lion's roar. It's also in Predator: CJ, if you've got it. Scarface uses the lion roar at the end of most of his combos and whenever he's knocked down and gets back up.
I noticed one of the Extra predators had an enormous face mask. Nearly three feat off his head ;D
lol, isn't that the mask that almost resembles a boar's head ? ;)
as for the roar, I don't mind it, it's menacing, and just adds a different sound to add personalty to the teen Preds.
Each Predator seems to have a different sort of voice... I noticed in Predator 2, the Predator's vocals seemed more high-pitched at times.
Huh the biggest difference in vocals I noticed was in AVP. The Predator's voice sounded like the old Preds but at the same time it was significantly different
it's in AVP where the Predators take out the first human sentry in the whaling village without revealing themselves and you hear a lion roar besides their regular click noises. though I agree with Yautja warrior each Pred will sound a bit different like P1 and P2.
I like the other predator sound,like a bird.
The Predator's design in Predator 2 was suberb. That head looked so cool and colourful. I loved how there was a little diamond in the middle of the Predator's head. :D
to me the predator 2 design look to bug like IMO. just one of the reasons why I like AVP and 1. Armor was pretty sweet on those 2, while in Predator 2 he look less high tech.
The first one looked more scary and ugly than the others IMO. They all look great but that first one looks evil as hell :o
Though we do have that one picture for AvP 2, I wonder what the Predator in AvP 2 is going to look like all together. People have mentioned the mask's similarity to the one from Predator 2.
he also bares a similar style of the first predator. second Pred IMO looks downright evil compare to the first one.
The second Predator did look more "evil"; especially after Harrigan shot it and it was walking towards him screaming.
The predator 2 pred was the best!!
the second Pred had a lot of screen time, and we got to examine his look more then his predessor. One thing that bug me in P2 is when there was a close up of his face, they used an animatronic rather then KPH's mask.
I thought the close ups were decent though occasionally you could tell it was a mask.
I'm surprised how many people actually liked the AvP Predator designs...
perhaps since the amount of expressions is could do, besides the standard Po'ed, it did curiosity, understanding, shocked, and fierce. The eyebrow movements really help you understand what the Predator was feeling. I personally think it's the best so far IMO besides the original.
The technology in the AVP mask was amazing, but the execution and design could have been better imho.
Imagine all that muscle work in the p1 mask...
thats Oscar-winning design material right there.
I really hated that skin colour in AvP. :(
I really didn't like the mandibles in AvP. In the first and second Predator. The mandibles stayed closed except when the Predator was screaming or speaking. In AvP they sort of just hung out to the sides and looked really ackward.
Predator from P1 8)
I loved the close up of the Predator's face in P2, it looked so cool. The horn that projected from the mandible bottums looked so cool, so did the three diamonds on the head.
Could this predator be from a different species though?
It's a different race, man. Just from a different country on the Predator homeworld is all. :P
Quote from: Corporal Hicks on Feb 21, 2007, 11:11:10 PM
It's a different race, man. Just from a different country on the Predator homeworld is all. :P
Female, I am a female. What I meant by different specie is like, live in a different environment and you change. Maybe that predator was like that. Or the Predators look different between warrior and hunter.
WE NEED TO SEE A FEMALE PREDATOR!
I really don't wanna see any Predator sexs. It's make them so...human.
Not really, maybe the female predator won't have breasts or will be larger than the male or something like that
or maybe they wouldn't have any external differences and only they could tell which was which.
I'm guessing the horns on the mandibles is just the same as different people and different races looking different.
Same for skin colours and etc. That's why I stand by that the Predators in each movie are from a different clan/race.
Hicks Yautja/Hish can have different genders and still be alien, pretty much the ant colony is entirely female, except for one or 2 males for the one purpose of mating, and ants don't seem too human to me. ;)
It would be interesting to see a female predator, but it (or she) should have different characteristics from the Predators we've already seen, and not just breasts. Maybe she would be be lithe and tall with more elongated features...
there have been some nice renditons of them on deviantart, though I would like to see how ADI would do the look of the female.
I think female Preds should be left shrouded in mystery, OR you come up with something really good. It would take some work and creativity to come up with something unique and good when it comes to a female Predator.
The whole comic book idea of them being bigger and stronger than the males (and throwing them around during mating...) to me is kind of a ridiculous concept. Not that I'd have any problems with females being the dominant sex of a species, but I don't think it fits here. It fits insects, but not Predators IMO. Maybe it's because we are used to human males being stronger than females, and the Predator is depicted so far as a humanoid creature. I do want the Predator to be more "alien", but not from that gender point of view.
as long as it's not a pred with make-up, a wig, and a membership at Bally's Fitness center. :o Then I'm fine with it.
I still liked the AvP Yautja because of the variations in design. Celtic's helmet was especially nice. Of course, they did look bulky in their armor, but I still think more armor is OK, as long as it's designed properly. Too bad Chopper didn't get to use his blades on a Xenomorph.
I liked Celtic a lot, but I think the Pred2 one looked the best.
For me Its AvP but thats my opinion now voice yours! ;D
If your reading this after AVPR came out my opinion has changed to AVPR
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Predator 1
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Predator 2
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AvP
thanks but what happened to the Predator 2 pic? :) ???
I can see it there =/
Its the soundtrack cover
Predator 1 and 2 are equal, if you put a gun to my had i have to go with the original, but i really love the Predator 2 helmet and face design.
Just sayin' there's one pic missin' ;)
I think its probably our cpu or something because all I can see is a little x.
I don't know what happened but I can See it now! ;D
Oh wait, I can see it now.
Why are you making me choose over P1 and P2 AAGHHH!!!!
I will have to say P1, nothing can beat how ugly he is, and the insect like face, BIG thumbs up right there.
First Predators design!
Predators 2's for the win 8)
Predator 2. My only gripe is I never liked the plasma caster, I preferred the one in the first Predator film.
http://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/index.php?topic=514.0
Kevin Peter Hal version 1.0
yeap, thats the best one. Actually I didnt like the helmet of the second one, I DID like his face. and for the AVP one I did like the armour (taking away the fact it "melted") and helmet... but I HATED his fu**ing smile, and he body expresion... I mean predator mimic sounds, they are no mimes that paint their face in white.
pred 1!!!! pred 2 was okay and the only good one in avp was chopper MAYBE celtic
Voted for the first owing to an original physiognomy, at the second a physiognomy any little bit another. Though the second has been equipped better...
Overall, I like the first design the best, but the unmasked Predator in the second film looked mean as hell. When lit a certain way, he looks completely bad ass. Stan Winston's was the best though.
I love both for different reasons cause, well they both look different. Scar... sorry can't stand him.
On the female predator thing, personally never wanna see one, but you know the first ever comic to feature one came out in 1993 and unless you knew otherwise, to begin with you couldn't tell they were a she. Its only later when its point out, some things that seemed weird made sense.... mind you the story in the comic was just completely off the wall, big time.
I have always liked the female then was flat chested and the only thing that kinda showed they were a she (you notice it more once you know their a she) is that they have slightly broader hips.
The original Predator design all the way, it was the first pred design ever to hit the big screen, so no mistakes with him, plus he was completly kick ass.
I say the first
Pred 2 has been my fave design from the beginning. AvP was a good style, like a 'ready to kick acidic ass' look.
Quote from: RedIce on Oct 31, 2007, 08:06:13 PM
Pred 2 has been my fave design from the beginning. AvP was a good style, like a 'ready to kick acidic ass' look.
And then two of the three got Alien tongues to the noggin. The irony.
I still like the original the best, but the Wolf looks pretty sweet crouching in the sporting goods store.
My favorite Predator Design is from the first movie. Sadly, the first Predator figure of McFarlane sold out very fast in a blink of an eye before I had the chance to get it, the Billiken and Argonauts model kit of the first Predator are rare as hell. I hope NECA have the license for the first Predator
Predator
mask: ;D
face: ;D
Predator 2
mask: :(
face: :)
AvP
Scar: :-\
Celtic: :)
Gil: :-[
face: :'( >:( :-[
AvP:R
mask: ;D
face: :-\ :(
I love both the designs from P1 and P2, they look brilliant. Imagine a cross between the P1 pred and the P2 pred... Man that Predator would be the best of the best and the Ultimate Hunter. I'd love to see that Pred.
Predator 1
simple because its the best
as in Predator 2, the dective says, pussy face...i think or maybe i just read some1 else saying it
but the predator 2 has a pussy face
the other predators in AvP,meh
scar : looks like shit cant stand him
p1 : bad ass first time we ever saw it and they dident let us down :D
p2 : actully i like the face more than in p1 it looks more how can i say this heh *evil* but the mask was alittle arrh chould have been better.
predator 1 and avp for me
avp *****
pred 1 ****
pred 2 **
Anytime:**********
Pussyface:******
AVP: -500,000,000,000
AVP Requiem:**************************************************** ;D
Wow alot of people like the second Predator design, well alot more than I thought would anyways; shows how much I know.^^''
I myself have to say the Original is my all time favorite,(it's the the face portrals of emotion that got me) then comes Wolf from A.V.P.R.(My God I LOVED his body structure so finely tuned...*,*) and AvP and Predator2 are a tie.
That's my story and I'm sticking to it! Xo lmao
i've always had a soft spot for the jungle hunter but urban hunter and wolf could just as easily take the cake
^Lol, dammit, I was gonna say the same thing about the spikes. >:( :P I liked Wolf's the most, and then maybe the Celtic's or Scar's.
I like Wolfs too. Its got cool angles and is very sharp looking. Then add in the bone spikes and the pred writing on top..........sweet....just sweet 8)
Jungle Hunter,With Wolf and City Hunter (PussyFace) Tied in second place 8)
Quote from: bonafide1498 on Feb 02, 2008, 04:49:14 AM
I like Wolfs too. Its got cool angles and is very sharp looking. Then add in the bone spikes and the pred writing on top..........sweet....just sweet 8)
Yeah he also had those little spikes on his head too, I think.
i like avp elder...the mask on his left shoulder is prettiest, and he has those sharp eyebrows...and he looks really skillful
celtic because his mask is awsome and i luv his net gun
Lol, wtf, ok I look stupid now, IH deleted his post. Eh, he said he liked Wolf too after the OP, the spikes.
Wo0t, recevied the pevledge to vote! Again! XD lmao
Quote from: brain_damage on Feb 02, 2008, 10:03:26 AM
i like avp elder...the mask on his left shoulder is prettiest, and he has those sharp eyebrows...and he looks really skillful
no they weren't on his head only the mask. but he did have the extra mandible spikes.
I like P1 face the best, and wolf mask/gear design.
My fav is definitely Anytime. Everything about him was perfect. Wolf's physical design was spot-on, but ADI screwed up the face AGAIN. Pussyface was also really good, but his mask reminded me of Daffy Duck :P I agree with what others are saying about his face; it looked very sinister.
As for the AvP Preds, well...no comment.
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the first...there is no competition here.
the second ones head was too big and over detailed with the skin pattern,the eyes were bad and the jaw didnt move smoothley.the face was also too dry lookin,needed a wet look.
avp had a good mask but the face was shit...worse yet.they totally lost the basic shape of the face and went with a manga comic book look which only works in comic books haha
the dreads were also too long.
avp2 is better but still nowhere near as good as the first.
ever noticed how the original face is alittle elongated...the mouth area are like pincers and crab like,maybe alittle arachnidish.the mouth claws sort of come to a point with a very sharp strong jaw line.none of the other faces have ever matched that exact shape.
Wolf
Anytime
Pussyface
I love Wolfs design. Mandibles were huge, I really thought it looked cool.
I still think Pussyface looks a bit weird....P2 is my fav of the films....I just think PF looked a bit too much like a klingon without the mask heh.
AVP preds sucked balls and can get fuct IMO.
Scar was a bitch. Nuff said.
I'll go for the design of Celtic in AVP. I like his mask, it's cool.
Quote from: Secret Hero on Mar 07, 2008, 06:17:37 PM
I'll go for the design of Celtic in AVP. I like his mask, it's cool.
What did you think of the rest of him?
More are his Wrist-Blades, long-wrist blades, and the dagger looks good.
The predators in P2 are the best in my opinion. They have never looked better than they did in that movie. The predator from the first movie was really good 2 but the bp2 individuals were all just a little bit better.
The predators from the first AvP were Horrible. The one from AvP R is slightly better but not all that much of an improvement altogether.
I actually think Wolf was a lot better than AVP preds, he had the body structure of the original preds.
You know what's sad? The Predators in Batman: Dead End look better than the ones in AvP.
the avp preds were nice in that they were different with their mask designs
celtic
chopper
scar
but the look was all wrong....for some reason they all looked kinda fat hahaha
even the flashback to the ancient times senario..all looked chunky.
the other thing was the face design for scar was terrible.the colours were wrong,his mandibles stretched out way too far,the face looked dry....no moisture,no realism and his eyes looked too normal and too big.they should have been smaller and set deeper in his head.
i always thought scar's face looked kinda manga in looks.....as though they tried to capture a comic book look.
there are some things u just cant copy from comics though.
I think the preds looked fat because anderson wanted ythem to look very buff.
hmmm looks bad though.
that was one thing i read for avp2..that they had slimmed the pred back down again.
Quote from: Nightwalker on Mar 08, 2008, 09:27:20 PM
hmmm looks bad though.
that was one thing i read for avp2..that they had slimmed the pred back down again.
And so ADI did. Only problem was the face...AGAIN.
Just remold and add new features to anytimes face.
Quote from: Private Hudson on Mar 08, 2008, 09:10:28 PM
I think the preds looked fat because anderson wanted ythem to look very buff.
Yeah, I think it's a good idea making the Yautja buffed up, than a semi-skinny one.
Quote from: DoomRulz on Mar 08, 2008, 09:47:13 PM
Quote from: Nightwalker on Mar 08, 2008, 09:27:20 PM
hmmm looks bad though.
that was one thing i read for avp2..that they had slimmed the pred back down again.
And so ADI did. Only problem was the face...AGAIN.
AGREE!
The first Pred looks the most evil, definitely the best. Theres something strange about the P2 design, mabye the mouth is too small or something, I just don't like it. I like AvP's and AvPR's but my vote goes to the original.
With a helmet, I'd say Wolf. Without, its the P1 pred. I never really had a problem with the 'fat preds' in AvP, but every1 else seems to...
Quote from: Gameoverman!GAMEOVER! on Mar 11, 2008, 08:41:35 PM
With a helmet, I'd say Wolf. Without, its the P1 pred. I never really had a problem with the 'fat preds' in AvP, but every1 else seems to...
That's b/c they could barely move.
Quote from: DoomRulz on Mar 11, 2008, 08:48:29 PM
Quote from: Gameoverman!GAMEOVER! on Mar 11, 2008, 08:41:35 PM
With a helmet, I'd say Wolf. Without, its the P1 pred. I never really had a problem with the 'fat preds' in AvP, but every1 else seems to...
That's b/c they could barely move.
Hmm fair enough. It's been too long since I watched it to remember that. Still, thought they looked quite cool.
Quote from: DoomRulz on Mar 08, 2008, 08:12:38 PM
You know what's sad? The Predators in Batman: Dead End look better than the ones in AvP.
:D true!
the first predator. he's helmet is the best
Wolf looks the coolest, but the best actual face is the original.
Quote from: Alienseseses on Mar 30, 2008, 08:38:57 PM
...but the best actual face is the original.
Indeed. I wonder why ADI is so reluctant to re-create the face that way.
Predator 2, for the copper-colored armor. Slightly more 'organic'.
I liked the Pred 2 and AVP-R pred
Can't believe people voted more for the AvP preds than for Wolf :o Truly crazy thing that I would have never imagined, mateys! :o
AVP:R's design wasn't the best, but it deserves a lot more praise than AVP's.
'cept in the face dept. Does anyone else feel that Wolf was perhaps a tad bit skinnier than Anytime?
He was gaunt pred.
But I still think he was awesome, in design and movement.
Gaunt pred?
Wolf was a huge improvement over those guys in avp.
However the original is still the best for me.
All preds except avp2004 preds were beautiful.
now the avp body, with jungle preds face...perfect, i wont get into gear.
i thought there was more deatil in the AVPR predator desighn but the original is cool too i think ! :)
If you consider out-of-place mandibles detail, then yes.
AVPR Predator.
AVP is Winning AVPR?Come on Now,AVPR Is tied for the Second best Design at least With Predator 2
Pussyface, followed closely by Wolf/Celtic/"Anytime".
Anytime gets my vote.
Quote from: Sol on Apr 29, 2008, 05:54:14 AM
Pussyface, followed closely by Wolf/Celtic/"Anytime".
Scratch that.
Wolf is my favorite (every part of him), followed by Pussyface, and Anytime in that order. Outside of Celtic's helmet design, I was generally turned off by the AvP Predator's, especially their faces. Ugh.
And voted.
Wolf was the best, I liked the spiked mask, the lighter armor, 2 plasma casters and their design, then Jungle hunter, P2 and then AvP.
Predator 2 design.
For Me what kills it Is wolf's Face,While a Improvement over AVP,The lower Mandibles stick out Very Far :P,And once again,He can't close them :P
Anytime has my vote, though i did like AVP's armor design. it just needed slimmed down, along with the preds themselves, and the face needed fixed. Wolf was cool but i didn't like him unmasked, it just looked crappy, though it was much better than Scar
Quote from: XenoVC on May 03, 2008, 12:18:47 AM
The lower Mandibles stick out Very Far :P,And once again,He can't close them :P
They are closed plenty in the film. I'll post screencaps, if you'd like.
I love his mandibles, myself. I think it's key to show that Predators don't share an identical "mouth" area. It gives them character (the Predators from 1 and 2 had different sized mandibles, aswell).
I do agree that AVP's Pred faces missed the mark. They didn't open, and close properly, and "skin" in the areas between his upper and lower mandibles on each side was "flappy", they were incorrectly positioned, and all in all, they just "missed" it. Interestingly, they talk about how they fugged it all up in the face area.
Personally, I thought Wolf's face just looked awesome, I loved his mandibles, how they were so large and prominent, and how the top ones were broken in battle. He also looked menacing unlike the Predators in AvP.
Quote from: b-raz on May 03, 2008, 07:54:20 PM
Personally, I thought Wolf's face just looked awesome, I loved his mandibles, how they were so large and prominent, and how the top ones were broken in battle. He also looked menacing unlike the Predators in AvP.
He had extra mandibles that never existed before. IMO ADI screwed up just as badly as they did in AvP.
Quote from: DoomRulz on May 03, 2008, 09:04:36 PM
He had extra mandibles that never existed before. IMO ADI screwed up just as badly as they did in AvP.
No. He had
less mandibles than any Predator presented on film before him.
He's referring to the bits sticking out the bottom of the lower mandibles.
And before anyone brings up the Predator 2 Predator, it had little teeth that pointed downwards. Wolf's whole facial structure doesn't seem like it'd actually fit in the mask he wears.
Quote from: SiL on May 04, 2008, 12:50:04 AM
He's referring to the bits sticking out the bottom of the lower mandibles.
Oh, he's referring to
teeth and
horns, not mandibles. Either way, the number is not greater, they are just positioned differently (the two bottom ones pointing outward along the larger ones).
They're not just teeth. They're attached to their own little extension and can move.
Quote from: DoomRulz on May 03, 2008, 09:04:36 PM
Quote from: b-raz on May 03, 2008, 07:54:20 PM
Personally, I thought Wolf's face just looked awesome, I loved his mandibles, how they were so large and prominent, and how the top ones were broken in battle. He also looked menacing unlike the Predators in AvP.
He had extra mandibles that never existed before. IMO ADI screwed up just as badly as they did in AvP.
Yeah, those weren't like the tusks though, I thought it was fine.
Quote from: SiL on May 04, 2008, 12:59:10 AM
They're not just teeth. They're attached to their own little extension and can move.
More sarcasm, or are you serious this time?
Quote from: Sol on May 04, 2008, 01:04:05 AM
More sarcasm, or are you serious this time?
Dead serious.
Quote from: SiL on May 04, 2008, 01:05:54 AM
Quote from: Sol on May 04, 2008, 01:04:05 AM
More sarcasm, or are you serious this time?
Dead serious.
I just rewatched every scene with Wolf outside of his helmet. The smaller, outside tusk do not move. They are stationary, and are within the same location as Pussyface's large, downward protruding tusk.
WHAT!!! AVP Predators have 19 and Wolf only has 16? :(
The only well design Pred was Celtric.
Quote from: Sol on May 04, 2008, 01:13:54 AM
Quote from: SiL on May 04, 2008, 01:05:54 AM
Quote from: Sol on May 04, 2008, 01:04:05 AM
More sarcasm, or are you serious this time?
Dead serious.
I just rewatched every scene with Wolf outside of his helmet. The smaller, outside tusk do not move. They are stationary, and are within the same location as Pussyface's large, downward protruding tusk.
Dude, Wolf's extra mandibles looked like some sort of deformation. Where did they come from??!!
Quote from: DoomRulz on May 04, 2008, 05:07:50 AM
Dude, Wolf's extra mandibles looked like some sort of deformation. Where did they come from??!!
You must mean his tusk, as the mandibles are the 4 appendages the Predators have on each corner of their mouths, in which has never changed.
And the Predators all bear differentiating features, similar to human beings, and most other living organisms.
Also, Pussyface has more teeth/tusk than Wolf, or about the same number last I counted.
There's just no beating the original
Quote from: wolfboy22 on May 06, 2008, 07:31:48 PM
There's just no beating the original
110% with you on that one, Predator 1 desighn is byfar the best pred desighn of every pred ive seen, armor,skin, and face are just perfect.
PS: jeeej 1000 posts my first time in a forum ;D
Quote from: KARHAN on May 07, 2008, 02:40:59 PM
Quote from: wolfboy22 on May 06, 2008, 07:31:48 PM
There's just no beating the original
110% with you on that one, Predator 1 desighn is byfar the best pred desighn of every pred ive seen, armor,skin, and face are just perfect.
PS: jeeej 1000 posts my first time in a forum ;D
I liked the Predator 2 design as well but it wasnt as good as the first though
p.s. congratulations.........as for me I finally became a predalien :)
Well I just broke the tie. Now AVPR is a head of AVP. Anyone who think AVP's predators looked better than Wolf needs to have their head examined.
The AvP:R head was just as bad. It was too big and the extra tusks were horrid.
I like'd the extra tusks.
I liked the P2 and AVP-R designs
i'd have to go with wolfs design also the predator 2 design because the mask quite similer.
Quote from: Wolf123 on Jun 12, 2008, 07:22:57 PM
i'd have to go with wolfs design also the predator 2 design because the mask quite similer.
Thats true, the struasse brothers wanted to go with a similar design to P2
my favorite predator design is from avpr
Really? First time I hear anyone say such a thing.
if u added about 30% more P1 into avp-r that would of been perfect
I loved Wolf's design, it was the same lean design from P1, plus the scaring was awesome, it only makes sense that a race of hunters would have battle scars, yet Anytime, P-Face, and Scar were all nice and clean(at first anyway X^D).
Scar had his own facial problems, namely floppy mandibles and an overgrown mouth.
Predator 1. Though Pred 2's was easily as good, I just think that the first one I ever saw will always be the one I think of when somebody says 'Predator'.
As for AvP, flappy skin, always had his mandibles parted like a retard who can't shut their mouth, too bulky, dreads looked weird, and he generally looked too human.
AvP-R; liked it more than AvP, but not as much as the originals, because we didn't really get to see him too well, he was wearing the stupid metal sandals, and his mandibles were too big, they just looked silly, sticking forwards from his face like they did.
So I like P1 most, AvP the least, and if AvP-R had been less dark, and Wolf had shorter mandibles, he could possibly have become my favourite.
I think just about everyone thinks of Anytime when they hear the name Predator.
Quote from: DoomRulz on Jul 25, 2008, 02:27:31 AM
I think just about everyone thinks of Anytime when they hear the name Predator.
Yeah he is the original and the original is usually the best.
Celtic and The Lost Predator.
i like the orgeinal p1design and p2 elder plus whole clan they just look so sinaster and evil look'n in p2 those where org pred's i know not avp pred's i hate thosedesign's and the movie sucked. Org pred was badass and p2 it was just as good as the first one i say hand down too those avp pred guy's!!! :-\
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AVP and AVPR pred design
I really like the AvP armor design, it was really uniform (which is something I obsess over) and mostly symmetrical.
Too bad they made the Predators look like overgrown rugby players.
Quote from: DoomRulz on Jun 09, 2008, 02:27:17 PM
The AvP:R head was just as bad. It was too big and the extra tusks were horrid.
I agree. He was really skinny too, so that didn't help.
My favorite is the design on the cover of Turnabout, the novel.
Well the predator from AVPR sucked. It was nothing cool about it. It was just there. It was lame. The predators from avp were lame too. A yautja is a beast I doubt they would put too much emotion in its face like they did in AVP. They are suppose to be cold hearted best that have no pity on the wronddoers of society.
To me there was no attempt in scary in these mask. They dont even look scary. They should've looked up more of the older creators art. You study greatness to be the greatest. Arent I right?
The best Mask(S) Would be the yautja from Predator 1 and 2.
>_> <_<....We are talking about the mask instead of the faces right? :-[
I heard the last scene in the first predator film.. (the end fight when he takes off his mask and fights arnie) that it was luck they got the lighting and such just right to make it look so real.. saying they could not exactly duplicate that scene's realism.
LIke i have said before so much of it is the actor inside the suite . If kevin peter hall was still alive i doubt we would even be having this conversation of how cheesy the predator looked in AVP..
I thought AVP-R was a few big steps forward in the right direction with the looks and body movement of the WOLF predator, but it was nothing compared to the realism of either predator films.. I still think those were real and not guys in suites it was such a perfection of the art . what do you expect when stan winston is on set and kevin peter hall is acting...
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Quote from: DoomRulz on Jun 09, 2008, 02:27:17 PM
The AvP:R head was just as bad. It was too big and the extra tusks were horrid.
I agree. He was really skinny too, so that didn't help.
My favorite is the design on the cover of Turnabout, the novel.
I agree as well, something about the head looks off.
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Quote from: b-raz on Aug 18, 2008, 04:15:56 AM
Quote from: DoomRulz on Jun 09, 2008, 02:27:17 PM
The AvP:R head was just as bad. It was too big and the extra tusks were horrid.
I agree. He was really skinny too, so that didn't help.
My favorite is the design on the cover of Turnabout, the novel.
I agree as well, something about the head looks off.
Yet interestingly enough Hot Toys 14" Wolf's face actually has mandibles more like Anytime's.
For movies though, my fave would def be original Predator though, I mean really, nothing beats the original.
The weapons and armor were perfect, just wish he had like a combi-stick too or maybe a smart disc, but thats it.
Must agree, when saw Skar for the first time,it was aaargh, sooobad,comic like, allmost human/pred hybrid,awfull...but then ,maybe their teenagers looks like that...smaller mandibles,bigger eyes...
Anyway I really like them all,I do think it should be variations ,and my favourite detail is the loong dredges in AvP.Makes them amphibious... (Kit Fisto)...
But,just bought action figure of the Wolf...Vote on his face definitely,Avp Drdges,Celtic Mask,and must say again on AvP Armor...Weapon!? Blue liquid!Desintegrates everything!Silent!Awesome!
Predator from the first movie was cool. The mask, the color of the skin and the way he was acting. It's just fantastic. The second Predator was fine too, but his mask remind me the duck's beak.
And about the Predators from AvP, they were looking great, but only in the mask. Without the mask they've looked very ridiculous.
The one from AvPR look fantastic. Something between Pred1 and Pred2.
My favorite Predator design of all time has to be Anytime, do I have to say more?
The first one, no hesitation here. Predator's mask especially is one of the coolest designs ever. In P2 tho, the mask looks like crap. imo
The one at the end of predator 2. They made a action figure of it, it's called the lost predator
Quote from: Hyperdyne on Jan 22, 2009, 05:54:22 PM
The first one, no hesitation here. Predator's mask especially is one of the coolest designs ever. In P2 tho, the mask looks like crap. imo
It makes him look like Daffy Duck :P
My favourite Predator design of all time has to be Predator 2. The weapons and armour were perfect and I liked the extra tusks as well.
Probably the first desgin,i just the love the first movie! ;D
My favorite predator design... definitely the pred from predator 2
Predator 1
Predator and/or Predator 2 ^^
I like the Predator, Predator and AvPR. But "Anytime" still pwns every other design
Suprised no one really said Ole' Greyback from Predator 2, he was my favorite design.
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I liked those Preds from AvPE, with the skulls on sticks or whatever they were...
Predator 2 for me!
Quote from: Alpha" Primus666 on Apr 05, 2009, 01:47:44 PM
Suprised no one really said Ole' Greyback from Predator 2, he was my favorite design.
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That was Anytime's design, only with a different head.
The original one.
But I love that all their costumes are different, as every Predator hunts in a different location, a jungle, LA, f...in' pyramid...
AvP ones look tough, but fat as some1 mentioned.
Wolf.
He was badass, plain and simple.
He was raised by wolves. That's how he got his name.
Quote from: deadmeat on Apr 05, 2009, 05:44:09 PM
He was raised by wolves. That's how he got his name.
Wolf is the best.
I am starting to grow fond of the Scar design.???
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Well, it could count as the original since they used the same design, just tweeking it up a bit.
Kind of a tie between anytime and pussyface for me.
Definitely Predator 1 or Predator 2, but it's tough to decide between the two. I would say I like P1 and P2 equally because they're pretty different but equally badass.
I'm not into the AVP 1 Pred's at all, but I do like the Wolf Pred from AVPR alot.
Quote from: walterf on Apr 15, 2009, 09:44:52 PM
Definitely Predator 1 or Predator 2, but it's tough to decide between the two. I would say I like P1 and P2 equally because they're pretty different but equally badass.
I'm not into the AVP 1 Pred's at all, but I do like the Wolf Pred from AVPR alot.
So, overall, you like them all except AvP. ;)
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Quote from: walterf on Apr 15, 2009, 09:44:52 PM
Definitely Predator 1 or Predator 2, but it's tough to decide between the two. I would say I like P1 and P2 equally because they're pretty different but equally badass.
I'm not into the AVP 1 Pred's at all, but I do like the Wolf Pred from AVPR alot.
So, overall, you like them all except AvP. ;)
Pretty much, yes. To me they just look to unPred like and ungraceful. I have a hard time picking between Pred 1 and Pred 2 though because they're equally cool looking, but just in different ways.
Predator 1 100%
Predator or Predator 2 for me ;).
My favorite was the Predator 2 design
Predator 1 design is sweet and simple, predator 2 is a fantastic design, AVP predator design is awsome, but i think predator 1 design takes the cake for me!
You know it's really hard to say. I really like Wolf, hence my name. I also took a liking to the predator in predator 2 because he reminds me of a tropical fish with all the vibrant colors. I also liked the Celtic Predator and Scar. I don't see why people don't consider them to be predators just because the movies weren't all that great, either was alot of the comics but they were still considered predators. Ahhh who knows.
totally agree with you wolf assassin! ;D
Quote from: Millzy_55 on May 27, 2009, 09:09:16 AM
totally agree with you wolf assassin! ;D
Your about the only one that does. I understand the hardcore *alien & Aliens* movie enthusiast and I loved the first Predator and adored P2, but I felt something different needed to take place because in all reality there is only so much you can do with Predators and Aliens. It's like having 10 Friday the 13th's you tend to run out of ideas because all killing machine type creatures are designed for one purpose; killing, and I thought they gave a pretty awesome twist to the AvP movies with coming up with the ancient times and it kind of went along with the predator comics if anyone here has read them. Hell predators life span is 1000 years them dudes are old school
Awsome mate...i loved the first and second predator as well, i mean im a die hard predator alien fan, there did need to be something of change in all reliaty because there is only so much you can do! Yeh i thought the new twists were great and hope they continue to make more which im sue they will! I havnt read the comic books but im buying them off ebay haha cant wait to read them heard so much about them...hell predators sounds sick as hehe!
Quote from: Wolf Assassin on May 27, 2009, 06:59:19 AM
You know it's really hard to say. I really like Wolf, hence my name. I also took a liking to the predator in predator 2 because he reminds me of a tropical fish with all the vibrant colors. I also liked the Celtic Predator and Scar. I don't see why people don't consider them to be predators just because the movies weren't all that great, either was alot of the comics but they were still considered predators. Ahhh who knows.
Celtic was badass because he fought an Alien with his bare hands, but he got supremely stupid at the end and it cost him the win against Grid. Scar was just dumb; seriously, he teamed up with Lex, WTF.
Quote from: DoomRulz on May 28, 2009, 04:08:15 PM
Quote from: Wolf Assassin on May 27, 2009, 06:59:19 AM
You know it's really hard to say. I really like Wolf, hence my name. I also took a liking to the predator in predator 2 because he reminds me of a tropical fish with all the vibrant colors. I also liked the Celtic Predator and Scar. I don't see why people don't consider them to be predators just because the movies weren't all that great, either was alot of the comics but they were still considered predators. Ahhh who knows.
Celtic was badass because he fought an Alien with his bare hands, but he got supremely stupid at the end and it cost him the win against Grid. Scar was just dumb; seriously, he teamed up with Lex, WTF.
well, I think they were trying to go for the whole, Machiko thing that happened in the comics. You know the elder teaming up with her. I thought the Celtic vs Grid was awesome, and absolutely one of the best fights I have ever seen, Hell even scar vs the queen was wicked. I wish the fight between Wolf and Predalien could've been better it was really hard to see, A little better if you have it on Bluray along with a 55" HDTV but still, they could've done better. Also I feel they should've sent out more then just 1 predator. Sure Wolf's a bad ass but seriously WTF?
Quote from: Wolf Assassin on May 29, 2009, 01:37:58 AM
well, I think they were trying to go for the whole, Machiko thing that happened in the comics. You know the elder teaming up with her.
Yes I do remember, but the circumstances were different. Machiko teamed up with Broken Tusk because she saved his life, so he was simply returning the favour.
Quote from: Wolf Assassin on May 29, 2009, 01:37:58 AMHell even scar vs the queen was wicked.
Wasn't much of a fight; more like a giant chase.
Quote from: Wolf Assassin on May 29, 2009, 01:37:58 AMAlso I feel they should've sent out more then just 1 predator. Sure Wolf's a bad ass but seriously WTF?
That's poor writing for ya. Nothing wrong with one Predator, but there's something wrong with pissing all over his opponents.
Quote from: Wolf Assassin on May 29, 2009, 01:37:58 AM
well, I think they were trying to go for the whole, Machiko thing that happened in the comics. You know the elder teaming up with her.
Quote from: DoomRulz on May 29, 2009, 05:30:46 AM
Yes I do remember, but the circumstances were different. Machiko teamed up with Broken Tusk because she saved his life, so he was simply returning the favour.
Well if you think about it she gave Scar his plaster which he would've never made it out of there without it, she could've threw it done the chasm, so in a sense she did save his life.
Quote from: Wolf Assassin on May 29, 2009, 01:37:58 AMHell even scar vs the queen was wicked.
Quote from: DoomRulz on May 29, 2009, 05:30:46 AM
Wasn't much of a fight; more like a giant chase.
True, but it was a pretty bad ass chase and really gave you an idea how bad ass a queen alien is and how hard it is to take one down.
Quote from: Wolf Assassin on May 29, 2009, 01:37:58 AMAlso I feel they should've sent out more then just 1 predator. Sure Wolf's a bad ass but seriously WTF?
Quote from: DoomRulz on May 29, 2009, 05:30:46 AM
That's poor writing for ya. Nothing wrong with one Predator, but there's something wrong with pissing all over his opponents.
Yeah, one thing I do know is he never really dominated but it did down the story, a few more bad ass predators would've made a much better story, that and WTH was up with the Dawson Creek Drama power hour, at times I was wondering if I was watching Dawson's Creek or AvP.
I choose Predator 2 Design, he looks very evil. I think the Pred from AvP3 (Videogame) has potencial for the Throne.
Yeh predator 2 mask is awsome very evil and good design...that has def potenial from avp3 very good design..awsome mask ;D
But I think that double wristblades is a great idea.
Eh, I'm the kinda guy that likes the bare minimum. One shoulder gun, one Wristblade, maybe an additional spear, that's all I'd need as a Predator.
Back to the basics FTW. I wouldn't mind having a net gun though if I was hunting Aliens.
If anything has to be double, it would be Shurikens for me. I like the design, and it would be a neat sight to actually watch a Predator use them in close combat. Kinda like martial artists that use fans. But in this case it'd be big ass Shurikens that cut through anything.
The shurikens are not designed for close-quarter combat. There's no place to grip them like the throwing disc. They are meant to be flung at your opponent.
Tell that Scar who sliced an Alien's face clean off with that thing.
Wasn't a fight. He sliced its head off then put it away.
There's a place to grap them though.
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And as I remember correctly, in one of the behind-the-scenes footages, Anderson explained how they could also be used as hack and slashing weapons. Though the initial design was a bit different, allowing for a better grip, you could still hold it with two fingers, which is more than enough, and slash away.
Anderson also said Anytime and Pussyface were teenagers. Didn't add much to his credibility.
I'm not saying there's no place to grip them at all. Obviously they can be grasped if they can be thrown, but they wouldn't be very good in CQC because the grip isn't as good as it is on the throwing disc. The disc has actual holes to hold it within the centre.
The grip isn't as good, but anything that cuts through an Alien like a hot knife through butter is still good enough. And I mentioned in my post that they should be used like fans, which also don't have a firm grip like the classic disk, but more like the AvP shurikens.
Quote from: DoomRulz on May 29, 2009, 08:03:26 PM
Anderson also said Anytime and Pussyface were teenagers.
Anderson's an idiot, that obviously doesn't know shit so I never really cared what he said honestly. :P
He is a complete idiot. Teenagers? What, like 40 000 year old teenagers? lol ;D
Quote from: Dusk on May 29, 2009, 08:08:50 PM
The grip isn't as good, but anything that cuts through an Alien like a hot knife through butter is still good enough. And I mentioned in my post that they should be used like fans, which also don't have a firm grip like the classic disk, but more like the AvP shurikens.
True, but using them like a fan wouldn't seem practical because you can't really swing them around like the disc. Waving it like a fan would also look dumb.
I'm guessing the design of the Shuriken allowed the blades to re-adgust from the "fan" and form a complete circle...but then again when it comes back to the Predator...erm...ignore me for a sec.
I reaally like the design from Predator. I felt it was a sleek motherf*cker and gave it a look of agility and stealth.
Nothing beats the first. I would rank the top 3 as:
Jungle Predator (1987)
Wolf (2008)
City Hunter(1997)
You cant really beat the design of the first predator
Anytime is the best by far!! ;D
Do you even have to ask? Anytime baby. The equipment, the mask, the face.
Sci fi perfection.
I think my second favorite pred would have to be the elder from Predator 2.
He knew English man!
He also knew that a cape would make him look like crap.
The clan leader from AvP should have gone to him to discuss the predator dress code.
Predator 2 is my favorite, but Predator 1 is where all things Predator begin.
Predator 2 The City Hunter Rocked!!!!
Of course the AvP designs were cheesy, the Predator was turned into an obese monster.
Quote from: DoomRulz on Sep 13, 2009, 01:48:25 AM
Of course the AvP designs were cheesy, the Predator was turned into an obese monster.
No, the AVP Predators were more skilled then the ones from P1 and P2, that's why they looked so badass. ::)
Predator has the best predator design.
Wolf I think had the coolest style and overall feel. But nothing beats the face design of the original predator.
Predator 1 of course
The design was really well refined in Predator2, making it even more natural than before. But my favorite had to be the Elder, "Grey Back", from the end of Predator 2. Which is essentially a redressed and embelished version of the original Predator. Just an absolutely beautiful design.
I think I already voted but if not its the original Predator all the way for me!
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Quote from: DoomRulz on May 29, 2009, 08:03:26 PM
Anderson also said Anytime and Pussyface were teenagers.
Anderson's an idiot, that obviously doesn't know shit so I never really cared what he said honestly. :P
Anderson is a super idiot! IMO Anytime is the oldest Predator next to the Elder
Youngest to Oldest: Pussyface, Wolf, Anytime, P2 Elder
I'm in the minority, but Predator 2 is my choice.
Pussyface weapon and costume wise, while Anytime face wise. And I really don`t think that Wolf showed more skill than Pussyface. If aliens in AvP-r acted like those in AvP than Wolf would be dead in few minutes.
The original, face-wise. (Although Anytime was slightly cross-eyed.) ;D
I think on armor design and movement it would be Pussyface. More defined and stuff.
All AVP preds are horrible. Including Wolf. And even with his helmet on (to hide his acne) he's constantly moving and flexing his hands like a neurotic nicotine adict... The entire length of the movie!!!
It's something I noticed by accident, now I can't look at anything else but Wolf's hands. Hate it.
On Anderson's preds I will waste no pixels...
I picked the P2 designs, but for the lost and elder predators
I like the predator 2 design, its color scheme resembles rusty metal, which was great since it was in the city. And its very detailed and has more to it than the p1
I stay with the first predator design. Both face and equipment is hilarious. In p2 the new weapons are good, but I dont like the new face, mask design and skin colour (to be frank I dont like the new sounds very much.. not to mention the changed sounds in avp. So, p1 ftw :) in my opinion.
I have always loved the original design, but i do like Wolf's mask.
Design wise I have to say that Wolf takes the cake as the ultimate pred, just because he might as well be "Cracked Tusk", but that's only as far as his face and mask go....his Armor seemed kinda...typical and plain...It might also just be that he looked so much better then the preds in AVP1 they looked like ninja turtles to me..
But the original still has thee best armor, and facial animation in the movie...not to mention no other movie seemed to get his eyes right....Wolf's eyes were pretty close..but you never really got a good look at them much like everything else in the movie..
So Predator 1 wins, but barely.
I like P2 and AVP-R Pred
after all these years, the first still looks the most realistic and best imo. winston = god. like the design and clan in predator 2 as well, they all looked badass
P2 design was probably my fav, then P1. The pred from p2 was sooo badass looking and scary as hell. The first was great too but p2 face and mask were def cooler in my book.
Quote from: Tucci on Jan 20, 2010, 11:49:17 AM
P2 design was probably my fav, then P1. The pred from p2 was sooo badass looking and scary as hell. The first was great too but p2 face and mask were def cooler in my book.
I totally agree :)
Predator by far. I cant be the only one who wonders why something made, literally 20 years ago, looks better than something made with more advanced and modern technology. Not for one second does the first predator look fake, especially with no mask. Look at AvP to see otherwise... Stan Winston will always be the best there ever was.
I'm not as big on the Predator as I am on the Alien, but I'd say my favorite desgins are the Pred 1 and AVPR Wolf.
Wolf had a great design.
However Stan Winstons designs are a class apart simple as. Predator 1 had the most original and best design
First predator without a doubt is the BEST, it set the standard for all present and future pred designs.
Anytime. I thought the AvP Preds were too bulky and I wasn't a fan of the face work. Wolf was nice looking, but I sadly enough found him too skinny. When it comes to Predator 2, I liked the design and all, but something about the mask just doesn't look right to me, like the bottom is too small. Might have just been the darker color on the armour. When it comes down to it, I thought Anytime was the perfect size, I liked his color scheme the best and the face was just perfect.
I like both designs from the first movie which is more tribal looking and the one in P2 that has a more urban look, but kept it's traits from the original. They are both great. But I voted for P2 in this poll since I already know that a lot of people voted for the first Predator. And I have to say that I'm really surprised to see that there are people who voted for the AvP predators. I should mention that I don't like the AvP designs... AT ALL. They look like big stuffed plushy toys. IMO they just look ridiculous. >:( The AvP:R pred design was kinda okay, but could of been better.
I will always prefer Anytime's because it looked the most real.
Anytime was goddamn awesome.
Quote from: DoomRulz on Feb 19, 2010, 11:31:43 PM
I will always prefer Anytime's because it looked the most real.
QFT.
I have to choose... a cross between wolf and pussyface. I just like wolfs battle wounded face.
It's like asking me to choose between children when it comes down to the preference of design between "Anytime" and "Pussyface". If I was forced at gun, I'd actually probably go with "Pussyface" ...
In addittion I'd also like to add how I prefer the physique (no skittles) of the preds from Predator / Predator 2 / AVP:R compared to the ones from AVP. The original design lent itself to a Rastafarian warrior and I liked the athletic physique more than the over bulging, roided out look to the preds in AVP which to me made them look alot less realistic and believable.
hands down wolf was the best..imo
Anytime.
DoomRulz already killed the P2 mask for me by comparing it to the 'Mighty Ducks' mask. I'm now afraid that my re-watch of that movie will be funnier than it should be.
i used to think wolf was the most badass looking pred dont get me wrong he is. but i saw Predator and after watching thata. how could u not love him?
Wolf / Scar shouldn't even exist in this thread.
They are exact copies of both the original and the second Predator's masks.
No, they're definitely not.
Quote from: DoomRulz on Mar 06, 2010, 01:30:18 AM
No, they're definitely not.
The sculpts are the exact same. All they did was work in minor details and color distinctions. The overall shape of Wolf's mask is an exact copy of P2's. Apart from the little ridged spikes, and the fact that its grey (a homage to Predator 1 mask) the sculpt is the exact same. Apart from Scar's tribal marking on his mask, the design of the mask is the exact same as Anytime's.
No it's not. Pussyface's mask had more a duck's bill design to it with the frond end really sticking out. Wolf's was flatter by comparison. And Scar's helmet wasn't as wide. The part that covers the mouth wasn't as big as Anytime's.
p2 was my favorite
I guess soon we can add the new Predators to that list up there. Though I doubt they'll be getting my vote.
Anytime had the best face, out of movies i like the AVP ones the best, but the absolute best goes to AVP2010!
for me the best face was pussyface because of the cool markings on his head but the best mask was wolf's. it will be interesting to do this poll again after the predators movie has come out
This is the way I see it, I'll add the Predators from Predators when it's released.
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How on Earth do you rate Paul Anderson's "handsome leading man" ahead of Wolf?
he didn't wolf was 3rd and scar was 4th the pictures aren't in order
Oh ya...that little rascal!
all the predators from avp1 were rubbish in how they looked, their size and how they acted.
Ill say it again. It amazes me how much something looks better that was made literally about 20 years before it. Thats Stan Winston for ya :)
I know a lotta people hate AVP2, but Wolf has been my favorite Pred to date
it's funny because i think the avp films were ok but only bad because of 2 major flaws. avp1 was ruined by the rubbish predators but was saved by the aliens and the queen. avp2 was ruined by the predalien which could have been so much better but was saved by how awesome wolf was.
Predator 2's Hunter looks really Primeval with those details on. Chose him :)
Whell there all good in some way. exaple.... P1: smooth simple inventive, P2: Bad ass unmasked face and the armer is darker and gritty, AVP: bulky, well equeped with longer blades and big ass plasma castors, AVP-R: mean looking over all and the wip was kinda cool so thay all bring something to the table ;)
P2' face was almost as bad as wolf's.
you are right there.
PF had an ass on his forehead :P
I know to the Predator purists this is going to sound like picking the AvP Alien over Giger's Alien...but I prefer the Wolf Predator to any of them.
I just love the fact that he's scarred, his weapons and the sort of backstory he has (cleaner).
thats fine, but the only problem i had is the lack of muscle and face. other than that design wise, he was very good.
I'm not big on an overly muscled Pred though.
The design was originally based off of a Masai warrior, and they're VERY lean individuals.
So, a lean Pred works for me.
Quote from: Sabres21768 on Mar 22, 2010, 05:57:46 AM
I'm not big on an overly muscled Pred though.
The design was originally based off of a Masai warrior, and they're VERY lean individuals.
So, a lean Pred works for me.
the avp ones wer quite muscly, but wolf had less then P1 or P2
Quote from: #6.0 on Mar 22, 2010, 06:01:52 AM
Quote from: Sabres21768 on Mar 22, 2010, 05:57:46 AM
I'm not big on an overly muscled Pred though.
The design was originally based off of a Masai warrior, and they're VERY lean individuals.
So, a lean Pred works for me.
the avp ones wer quite muscly, but wolf had less then P1 or P2
True, but Wolf's "bad ass Pred" factor makes up for it as far as I'm concerned.
I'm hoping these new Preds in PREDATORS impress me as well.
Quote from: Sabres21768 on Mar 22, 2010, 06:09:18 AM
Quote from: #6.0 on Mar 22, 2010, 06:01:52 AM
Quote from: Sabres21768 on Mar 22, 2010, 05:57:46 AM
I'm not big on an overly muscled Pred though.
The design was originally based off of a Masai warrior, and they're VERY lean individuals.
So, a lean Pred works for me.
the avp ones wer quite muscly, but wolf had less then P1 or P2
True, but Wolf's "bad ass Pred" factor makes up for it as far as I'm concerned.
I'm hoping these new Preds in PREDATORS impress me as well.
good point, i can agree with dat.
QuoteFavorite Predator Design
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The picture says it all.
Quote from: Sabres21768 on Mar 22, 2010, 05:57:46 AM
I'm not big on an overly muscled Pred though.
The design was originally based off of a Masai warrior, and they're VERY lean individuals.
So, a lean Pred works for me.
i never thought as the predator being big with lots of muscles, to me it should be leen and agile so p1 p2 and wolf were perfect and the ones from the new predators movie are looking good but avp1 predators sucked
Quote from: Sabres21768 on Mar 22, 2010, 05:38:05 AM
I know to the Predator purists this is going to sound like picking the AvP Alien over Giger's Alien...but I prefer the Wolf Predator to any of them.
I just love the fact that he's scarred, his weapons and the sort of backstory he has (cleaner).
Scars were nice I agree, but his head was friggin' huge. And those little mandibles on his mouth looked weird.
I always thought the predator 2 design looked very discolored and comic book like.Especially the eyes.The 1st one actually looked real.
is wolf suppose to be a tribute to the broken tusk character from the comics. ps only just started to buy the comics and i didn't know what i was missing there awesome so trying to buy the older ones as well, just read avp three world war and you will see what i mean
Quote from: x2SMONEY on Apr 09, 2010, 09:05:12 PM
I always thought the predator 2 design looked very discolored and comic book like.Especially the eyes.The 1st one actually looked real.
Un-realistic and comic book like ... and you have the overly muscular / klunky Celtic from AVP in your avatar?
Pussyface looked just as believable as Anytime.
I actually prefer Pussyface's armor coloring with the bronze, and his hunting mask looked MUCH meaner. Mask-less they are both on par in terms of believability. The AVP ones however looked ridiculously corny and ubelievable.
AVPR hands down that was the greatest design. (so far) It wasn't bulky like AVP and it wasn't light weight and lest equipped like Predator.
Quote from: Reaper117 on Apr 10, 2010, 05:34:27 AM
AVPR hands down that was the greatest design. (so far) It wasn't bulky like AVP and it wasn't light weight and lest equipped like Predator.
i agree
The original Predator aka "Anytime"
Anytime had the best face, but I prefer the AVP body, but for suits AVP2010.
Quote from: #6.0 on Apr 13, 2010, 06:13:40 AM
Anytime had the best face, but I prefer the AVP body, but for suits AVP2010.
What is AVP2010?
I don't get how anyone would like the bodies from the AVP movie. They were an abomination, and strayed too far into strong man competition, as opposed to what the concept of the original and even Predator 2 was about, and that was an athletic, agile Rastafarian Warrior. Not WWF styled musculature.
How anyone can vote for the ones not designed by the GOD of monster cinema, Stan Winston is beyond me.
:-\
QuoteWhat is AVP2010?
The new game.
Quote from: 08yeyinde on Apr 13, 2010, 06:27:22 AM
QuoteWhat is AVP2010?
The new game.
Oh ok, thanks. That game is awesome, btw.
But still ... how can anyone vote for AVP or AVP:R designes over Stan Winston's creations?
Only excuse would be if you're a young child to young adult who saw those movies first before the originals of the respective franchises.
Because as actual designs, animatronics, execution goes ... it isn't even a competition.
Quote from: #6.0 on Apr 13, 2010, 06:13:40 AM
, but for suits AVP2010.
So basically Alien vs Predator suit or Wolf/Anytime "suit"?
'Cause that's what they are. :P
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But still ... how can anyone vote for AVP or AVP:R designes over Stan Winston's creations?
Only excuse would be if you're a young child to young adult who saw those movies first before the originals of the respective franchises.
I would say it's simply because tastes differ.
I find Scar some abomination with his bulky body, ridiculous looking face etc. but if others like it, okay. Like some say PF is better than AT. Okay, not much of a gap, but still a difference.
And Wolf was pretty okay, until he dropped his mask. That face in the movie looked horrible. But his body is lean, and all in all, resembles to a pred. Doesn't come near, but still okay.
QuoteBecause as actual designs, animatronics, execution goes ... it isn't even a competition.
I agree with you, the original (both p1 and 2) is so superior than the avp ones, that I can't tell. But it's me. I don't think anyone who likes the avp ones need an excuse for it.
Excuse, beam to the head, whatever ;D Just jokin. Pred 1 all the way. No friggin competition
"Pussy Face", just awsome, great look to his face, but in saying this, Wolf was just amazing, elite.
Although I think Pussyface's design was more refined than the original, Anytime's design will always be my favorite. Both the helmet and body-/facial designs.
The first Pred had the best desight
The pred from P2 second
And Wolf third
who in their right mind would vote for the avp1 predators!
The same people who prefer AvP to Requiem. It's a funny world we live in.
funny contrast. avp1 = worst predators ever. avp2 = best predator ever.
Really? I disliked Wolf immensely.
wolf is everything a predator should be and look like. ok maybe his mandables were a bit too big.
Quote from: QUAGMIRE83 on Apr 22, 2010, 02:04:08 PM
wolf is everything a predator should be and look like. ok maybe his mandables were a bit too big.
Ditto. I like all designs, cept the AVP ones, so I found it hard to choose. But in the end, Wolf had one good design.
Quote from: QUAGMIRE83 on Apr 22, 2010, 02:04:08 PM
wolf is everything a predator should be and look like. ok maybe his mandables were a bit too big.
Soooo Predators should look like Bobblehead Octopuses? Now this is new to me :P
Hey, that's only when he's unmasked in the movie. Poor indeed. But overall design (aside from '''''cool''''' weapons like the power glove or whip) is good. He's okay. Can't compete with any from the predator movies, but he looks better than avp ones. Aside the mask. Celtic's mask is much better.
His mask is the only part I like about him. Pussyface-ish, which is win IMHO. Too bad the rest is fail... :P
Yup, Celtic's Mask is one of the best masks out there (my favourite actually!).
Wut??? :o What is fail in it? It looks normal, his body is lean, not fluffy like those in avp. And mostly he resembles original preds. Don't say it's a failure just because he's in a retarded movie :-\ Okay, complexion is a bit different, but PF's complexion differs from AT's, no problem. they are not droids.
Oh, I prefer Anyitime's mask. Though Celtic's mask is something that is simply irresistable. If only I had to watch avp for that, I'd do it. Shame other parts are not that cool.
And yeah, Wolf's mask is like Pf. Not the best out there imo. I mean it's okay, but it's lower part could have been done better. Overall good :)
AvP's bodies were "Fluffy" (why that term reminds me of This (http://media.pldh.net/pokemon/ken_sugimori/update1/180.png)? ???) because there was plenty of more armor. (Which I think was some kind of Heat -Keeper, 'cuz Predators seem to like hot places)
Why is Wolf Fail?
I'll let a single image do the dirty work:
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But oh well... He managed to origin the man himself, the legend! The almighty Wolfctopus:
(https://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi44.tinypic.com%2Fou7eqd.jpg&hash=c45ff89e9837e0461487bd9718c67eb09d2904a3)
Quotehttp://i44.tinypic.com/ou7eqd.jpg
Dude, epic lulz! :D :D :D
Quote from: OmegaZilla on May 09, 2010, 12:26:14 PM
AvP's bodies were "Fluffy" (why that term reminds me of This (http://media.pldh.net/pokemon/ken_sugimori/update1/180.png)? ???) because there was plenty of more armor. (Which I think was some kind of Heat -Keeper, 'cuz Predators seem to like hot places)
Why is Wolf Fail?
I'll let a single image do the dirty work:
http://i44.tinypic.com/72q9sp.jpg
But oh well... He managed to origin the man himself, the legend! The almighty Wolfctopus:
http://i44.tinypic.com/ou7eqd.jpg
Buddy, I said the face is just sh*tty, indeed. i agree on that, but like this it's okay:
(https://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi825.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fzz171%2F08mkartin%2Fwolfy.jpg&hash=db0315173ecb855cf0ece346136178f6fd6381c8)
(haha, the pc is positioned like he's about to shoot himself... kind of fitting to his level of intelligence :D)
Overall fine :)
But preds were pumped without armor as well:
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Also too bulky. It's kind of too easy to recognize they aren't real :-\ Don't make me start this.
Oh, i think for the heating net is used. As I recall in avp it's on their whole body, unlike in former movies.
Anytime (Predator)
Quote from: Puks on May 09, 2010, 12:34:27 PM
Quotehttp://i44.tinypic.com/ou7eqd.jpg
Dude, epic lulz! :D :D :D
O why thanks you! :)
Quote from: 08yeyinde on May 09, 2010, 12:39:42 PM
haha, the pc is positioned like he's about to shoot himself...
God, I
so hope he does so!
Quote from: 08yeyinde on May 09, 2010, 12:39:42 PM
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Also too bulky. It's kind of too easy to recognize they aren't real :-\ Don't make me start this.
Oh, i think for the heating net is used. As I recall in avp it's on their whole body, unlike in former movies.
Maybe they were more muscular because they performed special trainings to fight aliens, but I don't see that bulk on them really, and simply they do not bother me.
And may I add... Predator fans now will try to shred me - Wolf looks moar fake than Scar, enough said.
QuoteMaybe they were more muscular because they performed special trainings to fight aliens, but I don't see that bulk on them really, and simply they do not bother me.
And may I add... Predator fans now will try to shred me - Wolf looks moar fake than Scar, enough said.
Hmm, it seems we disagree on this. I see them really bulky and fake, less then Wolf, but I guess it's a matter of taste :) But okay, it doesn't matter. Both design kneel before the almighty Anytime :D
But how would anyone try to shred you? Nobody dare to insult followers of PF ;)
AvP Predators--->Less fake than--->Wolf Predator
That's why. Scar's wide expression "sheet" is his pro and his contro at the same time (see the OMG shot) but it makes him more realistic IMHO than Wolf. (But nobody can top, say, Anytime's angry face or Pussyface's)
That 'omg' look on scar's face looks really fake for me, but Wolf's face is just as bad as Scar's, so it doesn't matter.
But the whole design of the preds in avp looks like they were a combination of the michelin guy and a predator in too shiny, oversized weaponary. Fake and looks bad.There are some good aspects of it, yes, and the shuriken, Celtic's mask and their spears look good I think. But that's all :-\
I think the best mask by a long way is Celtics. Wolfs mask was pretty cool aswell, though.
P1, P2, and AvP requiem are all awesome but i'd have to say the first one. I love how it looked insectoid and reptilian at the same time. The first one also looked the meanest of all of them...it looked so evil when it looked at you. Speaking of which, i like how Anytime's eyes are cat like compared to the human like eyes of Pussyface. Another reason which makes P1 pred seem both more alien like and evil.
But that's just me. XP
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But that's just me. XP
No, not just you ;)
Though I saw his eyes rather reptilian. And those black freckles and spots, hair, really strong, and still in contradiction with the pale yellow skin. The slickery look and few drops on the mandibles, as well as the lean yet strong body, and the whole of the creature is making up an atmosphere that can hardly overcome. Maybe it cannot be. It's unbelievable design, totally amazing. The whole creature is just awesome and mysterious. And yes, it looks evil (though I doubt in fact it is).
Quote from: 08yeyinde on May 12, 2010, 02:11:32 PM
Quote
But that's just me. XP
No, not just you ;)
Though I saw his eyes rather reptilian. And those black freckles and spots, hair, really strong, and still in contradiction with the pale yellow skin. The slickery look and few drops on the mandibles, as well as the lean yet strong body, and the whole of the creature is making up an atmosphere that can hardly overcome. Maybe it cannot be. It's unbelievable design, totally amazing. The whole creature is just awesome and mysterious. And yes, it looks evil (though I doubt in fact it is).
Yeah. Plus beating the shit out of Arnie (whom should have had his neck snapped from all that force) was truly epic, it made Anytime seem all the more badass. P1 is the only movie thus far that shows a Pred beat the shit out of someone.
(https://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi41.tinypic.com%2F5yyrs2.jpg&hash=86ebc1dec609b06c866dcc08edca0610d8cf2e18)
Bow down to the almighty Wolfctopus.
*shoots missiles, screams in radio:
-Take down that thing! NOW!!!!*
*draws electric katana and cactus gun also*
Quote from: OmegaZilla on May 16, 2010, 05:14:28 PM
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Bow down to the almighty Wolfctopus.
Scandalous! Cephalopods are the smartest and most evolved invertebrates, how dare you associate them with that dumbass retard Wolf?! >:(
...
Kiddin', but frankly, you're previous attempt was funnier.
Quote from: 08yeyinde on May 16, 2010, 05:48:05 PM
*draws electric katana and cactus gun also*
Electricity worked with Godzilla, dunno if it could be minimally effective with the almighty beast. :D
Quote from: Puks on May 16, 2010, 10:36:14 PM
Scandalous! Cephalopods are the smartest and most evolved invertebrates, how dare you associate them with that dumbass retard Wolf?! >:(
Hahahaha, you are so right my friend, but the first time I saw Wolf's face my mind associated that image to an Octopus... :D
Quote from: Puks on May 16, 2010, 10:36:14 PM
Kiddin', but frankly, you're previous attempt was funnier.
Thing is that it's a bit difficult to find Octopus pictures that would fit with that head. But yes, you are right :D original is unbeatable!
I am excited to see the predators of PREDATORS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Quote from: #6.0 on May 18, 2010, 06:13:52 AM
I am excited to see the predators of PREDATORS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Yeah buddy, whos not! But I have to say that im a little disappointed of the Black Super Preds. I think there desing is some kind of lame and the worst thing is that they have no netting.
Quote from: Yautjaboy on May 19, 2010, 01:08:13 AM
Quote from: #6.0 on May 18, 2010, 06:13:52 AM
I am excited to see the predators of PREDATORS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Yeah buddy, whos not! But I have to say that im a little disappointed of the Black Super Preds. I think there desing is some kind of lame and the worst thing is that they have no netting.
Yeah, what up with that? Predators that don't have the net remind me od the toys that were to cheap to put some on the skin plastic.
I'm not diggin the new netless design either. My favourite will always be Anytime but my second choice is Wolf. I think all the designs after Anytime went the wrong way with the mandibles making them open way too wide especially for Scar that was ridiculous, Pussyface has the best crown design, that looked really cool, i was kind of disappointed that they just made the latter preds with plain textured crowns though.
Wolf had bad mandibles so Anytime FTW.
anytime will rule the day, that is all
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-ruler of cats
i dig pf design most and wolf they are badass
You can add the new predators to, since almost everyone has seen them now. :P
Pussyface is unbeatable in my eyes and also Anytime 1. These new Preds are extremely close though from what I've seen so far.
How much have seen so far ? ???
A lot ;D (meaning I'm spoiled with Production Stills)
I've never seen that pic in your Av before.
It's in the news, 81 screens of the movie have been released. Be aware they contain massive spoilers (BSP's unmasked face).
Be aware ? Like everyone wont be using them as Avs and sigs.
Well if anyone uses the BSP unmasked as an Avatar then that's going really to far isn't it?
Anybody showing the unmasked BSP in sigs or avatars WILL face punishment.
If it hasn't been locked already, that thread should be.
Quote from: DoomRulz on Jun 14, 2010, 10:47:12 PM
If it hasn't been locked already, that thread should be.
The thread is going to be locked?
So my av is already too spoiling?
In before locking !
Quote from: Tangakkai on Jun 14, 2010, 10:48:52 PM
Quote from: DoomRulz on Jun 14, 2010, 10:47:12 PM
If it hasn't been locked already, that thread should be.
The thread is going to be locked?
So my av is already too spoiling?
Not this thread, it was in reference to a report I received earlier. But yes, ditch the avatar.
He's refusing. Ban him ! Then make me a mod. 8)
Everybody and their grandmother already knows what the BSP's mask looks like - I don't think using that in a signature or avatar is going too far. :-\ Unmasked, however... that's a wholly different story.
On that topic, I love the new Super Predators' masks. All of them.
I much prefer Pussytimes. The other three just look silly to me. :P
Quote from: Anto of the Sand on Jun 15, 2010, 02:57:37 PM
I much prefer Pussytimes. The other three just look silly to me. :P
I agree, they seem very strange.
Quote from: Dachande on Jun 14, 2010, 10:45:56 PM
Anybody showing the unmasked BSP in sigs or avatars WILL face punishment.
Very good. This is what I was talking about!
Quote from: DoomRulz on Jun 14, 2010, 10:55:56 PM
Quote from: Tangakkai on Jun 14, 2010, 10:48:52 PM
Quote from: DoomRulz on Jun 14, 2010, 10:47:12 PM
If it hasn't been locked already, that thread should be.
The thread is going to be locked?
So my av is already too spoiling?
Quote from: Anto of the Sand on Jun 15, 2010, 12:47:56 AM
He's refusing. Ban him ! Then make me a mod. 8)
Not this thread, it was in reference to a report I received earlier. But yes, ditch the avatar.
I hope you are happy now! -.-
Just wasn't online yesterday so I couldn't do it until now...
Sorry Tanga, I was just kidding. :-[
Thanks Anto.
Well I guess Doom wasn't just kidding :-\
To bo honets I don`t think your Avatar did much harm. BSP`s mask was known since the first leaked photos. Every one knows it by now.
Quote from: Tangakkai on Jun 16, 2010, 02:27:02 PM
Thanks Anto.
Well I guess Doom wasn't just kidding :-\
If it really bothers you that much, stop whining and just change it back.
... and risk being banned? No thanks.
PBA has a BSP mask. So I wouldn't worry.
Quote from: Tangakkai on Jun 17, 2010, 01:54:31 PM
... and risk being banned? No thanks.
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Quote from: Tangakkai on Jun 17, 2010, 01:54:31 PM
... and risk being banned? No thanks.
Masked, no problem. Unmasked, problem.
Then why did you tell me to ditch the av?
Ah whatever!
For fun, shit and giggles ;D And the best is you listened :D
Ah I change my mind, I vote for Mr Black.
i have an updated poll going that has all the predators from predators and from games and comics as well
Quote from: bleau on Jun 21, 2010, 05:15:13 AM
Ah I change my mind, I vote for Mr Black.
above anytime and pussyface?!
HERESY !!! :o >:( :o
Maybe Wolf even though he sucks he looks cool but it has to be anytime1/2
I must say, I've grown very fond of Pussytime. His mask seems perfectly balanced.
There should be second poll without Pussy and Anytime. Just to check what is most popular among fans, other then of course long time classics. Though Celtic would win IMO.
Well, if I had to choose between the Overexpressive Maniac from AvP or the Almighty Octopus Man from AvPR, I'd definitely choose the first.
Quote from: Anto of the Sand on Jun 21, 2010, 04:37:30 PM
I must say, I've grown very fond of Pussytime. His mask seems perfectly balanced.
Amen to that! He will always be my favourite.
Yeah might want to update it with the new Predators keeping the classics out because most agree that they are the best. I'm kind of fond of Celtic, Super Black Predator, and Flusher (Tusks) though. I maybe beating alive for this one but I am fond of the Wolf from AVP-R I like the spikes on his helmet and the fact he's not a big bulking football player like the AVP Predators.
I liked the overall shape of the body and the Mask too.
But you'll agree the face was all kinds of awful.
Quote from: Tangakkai on Jun 21, 2010, 02:51:14 PM
Quote from: bleau on Jun 21, 2010, 05:15:13 AM
Ah I change my mind, I vote for Mr Black.
above anytime and pussyface?!
As far as design, yes. I love blacks mask and face! I still like Anytime and Pussyface a lot, but black looks sweet.
Quote from: OmegaZilla on Jun 21, 2010, 06:19:10 PM
I liked the overall shape of the body and the Mask too.
But you'll agree the face was all kinds of awful.
If you're responding to my like of the Wolf...I like the idea behind his face but it didn't look as good as it could have....
Quote from: Major Alan Schaefer on Jun 21, 2010, 06:17:47 PM
Yeah might want to update it with the new Predators keeping the classics out because most agree that they are the best. I'm kind of fond of Celtic, Super Black Predator, and Flusher (Tusks) though. I maybe beating alive for this one but I am fond of the Wolf from AVP-R I like the spikes on his helmet and the fact he's not a big bulking football player like the AVP Predators.
If Wolf lost his tusks, I could have liked his head design better.
Also if he tightened the membrane linking the mandibles and shrinked the whole head... :P
I have a soft spot for the original from Predator, though Wolf's design was pretty cool.
Predator One
Anytime...
Yeah I think when it comes to the actual face of the Predator, the first one blows all the rest out of the water. The second Predator kind of went for the more urban world of the early 90's which was unique but overall looked fake. The ones from AVP were meant to be epic but ended up being pathetic. Although the Celtic mask was pretty cool. And finally Wolf....The face was probably my second favorite but the overall look when masked and all was probably the best.
My only problem with Wolf is that the mandibles are too far apart.
Quote from: YautjaWarrior on Feb 04, 2007, 07:10:44 PM
I'm curious as to which design the fans liked most.
Predator 1 (Anytime)
"Anytime" had an awesome design, his face was brilliantly displayed and he was truly a believable character. "Pussyface" was a little different but his design worked well, very well. "Wolf" I believe was probably the best design, he was a lean, muscular, wounded Predator that looked tough and mean, yet he kept composed, although AvP:R didn't live up to expectations, "Wolf's" design was awesome.
Dark, AVP2010.
I have yet to see Predators, but the original Jungle Hunter set the standard, no doubt. So at the moment, that's my favourite film design.
Tusks.
This should get updated or make a new topic with the new designs.
A tie between the first Predator and the main bad guy from Predators for me. The designs captured their respective personas perfectly, Anytime as the enigmatic tough killer and BSP as the ruthless scary bastard.
Its so tough to choose between the first two Predators but I go with Predator 2. I just love that mean looking mask, the colors, the armor.
Predators. All of the designs. Even the Predator dogs.
I voted pussyface because of his face and that urban setting. But I give it a draw betweem pussyface anytime and wolf all 3 are badass
i would say predator 2 the city hunter the elder.. the lost hunters... i like them so much
Quote from: WolfPredator89 on Jul 17, 2010, 07:14:58 AM
i would say predator 2 the city hunter the elder.. the lost hunters... i like them so much
They are really awesome. Especially Guardian predator... geezus, so full of win.
I have just finished to watch Predator 2, and I'm gonna say I will not change my selection. City Hunter is truely the best design. Primeval to the extreme. Pure concentrate of epic and awesome.
Quote from: OmegaZilla on Jul 17, 2010, 11:32:13 AM
I have just finished to watch Predator 2, and I'm gonna say I will not change my selection. City Hunter is truely the best design. Primeval to the extreme. Pure concentrate of epic and awesome.
and once again I cosign to that statement. ;)
I liked the BSP armour. It wasn't overdone like the AvP Preds.
Not to troll what so ever, but I did not enjoy the Wolf Preds's armor.
Quote from: #6.0 on Jul 19, 2010, 07:24:23 AM
Not to troll what so ever, but I did not enjoy the Wolf Preds's armor.
That is not trolling, if somebody responds by calling you a fag or something
that is trolling, Oh and I agree, just the mandibles I don't like.
Poor 6, since he likes the AvPR aliens some people consider him a troll.
Falconer.
No matter how bad ass these new Predators were, Predator 2 still takes the cake for me.
Quote from: The Demon on Jul 19, 2010, 02:51:22 PM
No matter how bad ass these new Predators were, Predator 2 still takes the cake for me.
Same here. I really like Falconer, Tracker & Black... but in terms of realism and design they stand not the slightest chance against Winston's City Hunter model.
Quote from: The Demon on Jul 19, 2010, 02:51:22 PM
No matter how bad ass these new Predators were, Predator 2 still takes the cake for me.
Hey, haven't seen you in awhile!
Besides the original Predator, I liked the armor for Predator 2 the best, just not the color :P I think the greyish silver looks so much better (i.e. Sideshows Gort), but I REALLY like Tracker and Berserker's mask (though theres a seperate topic for that)
Quote from: OmegaZilla on Jul 19, 2010, 11:21:28 AM
Poor 6, since he likes the AvPR aliens some people consider him a troll.
Are you serious?
I just lost some faith in this site.
Nah, it's just some users.
The same users that call proclaim themselves and like-minded people "real fans" and say people that don't conform to their opinion are not? It is not just them but I also have problems with some of the established community members. I will not go into details because I am already too far off topic.
Um.... shot you a pm.
Well, i think the Wolf design wasn't that bad. The face was totally tedious on big screen, but the other, aside from lacking a bit os slime it needed was okay. Not nearly as good as the first two predators, but it was fine.
Quote from: #6.0 on Jul 20, 2010, 03:33:49 PM
Quote from: OmegaZilla on Jul 20, 2010, 08:58:01 AM
Quote from: PredalienXenomorph on Jul 20, 2010, 04:45:11 AM
Quote from: OmegaZilla on Jul 19, 2010, 11:21:28 AM
Poor 6, since he likes the AvPR aliens some people consider him a troll.
Are you serious?
Unfortunately I am.
Whatever guys, I like the design, not the portrayal.
I think you misunderstand. I was asking if he was serious about people calling you a troll for thinking the AvP-R Aliens looked good.
Quote from: PredalienXenomorph on Jul 21, 2010, 06:45:21 AM
Quote from: #6.0 on Jul 20, 2010, 03:33:49 PM
Quote from: OmegaZilla on Jul 20, 2010, 08:58:01 AM
Quote from: PredalienXenomorph on Jul 20, 2010, 04:45:11 AM
Quote from: OmegaZilla on Jul 19, 2010, 11:21:28 AM
Poor 6, since he likes the AvPR aliens some people consider him a troll.
Are you serious?
Unfortunately I am.
Whatever guys, I like the design, not the portrayal.
I think you misunderstand. I was asking if he was serious about people calling you a troll for thinking the AvP-R Aliens looked good.
Oh, you like them too? :o :o :o
Yes
I liked the first Predator and Wolf the best.
My Favorites.
- Predator 1 (Classic Predator - also in Predators [2010])
- Celtic Predator (AVP [2004])
- Scar Predator (AVP [2004])
- Predator the hunter (Predator 2 [1990])
- Berserker Predator (Predators [2010])
- Elder Predator (Predator 2 [1990])
Predator
Predator 2
Berserker Predator
Predator 1 will always have my favorite Predator, and design.
Predator 2's City Hunter design was quite different; in a good way. The armor felt more ancient and organic to me. It reminded me of samurai who passed down their weapons (and armor) to their kin.
1. Elder Predator (Predator 2 design w/ Raphael Andolini pistol)
2. Wolf Predator (AvP Reqiuem)
3. Original Predator (Predator '87)
Wolf's design definetely looked the most badass with going back to the more sleeky design and the acid scar damage and the missing eye and manible were excellent.
My favorites in order out of 5-
1. Wolf (AVPR 2007)
2. Scar (AVP 2004)
3. Jungle Hunter (Predator 1987)
4. Elder Predator (AVP 2004)
5. City Hunter (Predator 2 1990)
Quote from: alienhunter14 on Jul 26, 2010, 08:36:33 PM
the first predator was awesome and also the one in avpr ;D
-alienhunter14
Kinda off topic but that's not a bad signature image you got there.
Quote from: InfamousHunter on Jul 26, 2010, 08:46:06 PM
Quote from: alienhunter14 on Jul 26, 2010, 08:36:33 PM
the first predator was awesome and also the one in avpr ;D
-alienhunter14
Kinda off topic but that's not a bad signature image you got there.
Yup like the image his got in his signature too. Its from the new Predators dioramas being released soon.
Back on topic. I liked the designs of all the Predators with the exception of AVP. However, I did like the masks especially Celtic's. But my two favourite designs of all time would have to be the ones from the originals: Predator and Predator 2. Overall though, Jungle Hunter from Predator is personally my favourite Predator design of all time.
1. Falconer
2.Anytime
3.Tracker
P1 - the best. It was very well done, and the mandible and brow effects were done nicely. The creature truely looks like a living being from another world. I love all of the bone necklacess and other bits.
P2 - Main Hunter - Excellent. A bit different head shape, but it still works. The different coloration and tatoos make it very much it's own character. I also love the weapons.
P2 - Elder - Quite possibly the most bad ass looking predator ever. It had so much detail; it's tropies, beads and weapons just hinted at an amazing life it must have lived. In many ways, it was also the most intimidating predator ever put to screen.
P2 - other preds: They all had great little bits of character, ranging from forhead tatoos to weapons, to masks, to small details. You could tell that a lof of effort was put into them.
AVP - I liked the armor design, but it was bulky. I also like Celtic's mask. However, ADI did a poor job with the faces. They looked like rubber chickens. They also overdid the facial expressions by a mile. The giant wristblades and synch-guns were goofy.
AVP - Elder - just as rubery as Scar. I've sen better halloween masks. I dig the spear though.
AVPR - I liked the mask. The face was also poorly done.
Ps - I liked the classic pred best. THe SP's had cool armor, and masks, but the superpred face was just crap at best.
The only one I liked was the original. Dont like all the others at all. Maybe Berserker's fine too, but thats it
Quote from: Vulcan Rotary Cannon on Jul 30, 2010, 03:35:32 AM
P1 - the best. It was very well done, and the mandible and brow effects were done nicely. The creature truely looks like a living being from another world. I love all of the bone necklacess and other bits.
P2 - Main Hunter - Excellent. A bit different head shape, but it still works. The different coloration and tatoos make it very much it's own character. I also love the weapons.
P2 - Elder - Quite possibly the most bad ass looking predator ever. It had so much detail; it's tropies, beads and weapons just hinted at an amazing life it must have lived. In many ways, it was also the most intimidating predator ever put to screen.
P2 - other preds: They all had great little bits of character, ranging from forhead tatoos to weapons, to masks, to small details. You could tell that a lof of effort was put into them.
AVP - I liked the armor design, but it was bulky. I also like Celtic's mask. However, ADI did a poor job with the faces. They looked like rubber chickens. They also overdid the facial expressions by a mile. The giant wristblades and synch-guns were goofy.
AVP - Elder - just as rubery as Scar. I've sen better halloween masks. I dig the spear though.
AVPR - I liked the mask. The face was also poorly done.
Ps - I liked the classic pred best. THe SP's had cool armor, and masks, but the superpred face was just crap at best.
My avatar is one of the the P2 background/Other Predators.
Quote from: InfamousYautja on Jul 30, 2010, 04:16:11 AM
My avatar is one of the the P2 background/Other Predators.
Which tremendously looks like the first's. Hmmmm....
Predator 1, because everytime i think of predator, i think of his design
I love celtic predator even if he is a bit fat ;D
Predator1 most original looks awesome.
My favorite is Anytime ;D
-alienhunter14
i love predators from predator 2
I have to know this but how was the first Predator ever nicknamed "Anytime"? When did that start? I don't get it. There's so many great lines in that movie and people call it Anytime..
^ It copied Macs voice while picking up the scorpion.
Quote from: Vulcan Rotary Cannon on Jul 30, 2010, 03:35:32 AM
P1 - the best. It was very well done, and the mandible and brow effects were done nicely. The creature truely looks like a living being from another world. I love all of the bone necklacess and other bits.
P2 - Main Hunter - Excellent. A bit different head shape, but it still works. The different coloration and tatoos make it very much it's own character. I also love the weapons.
P2 - Elder - Quite possibly the most bad ass looking predator ever. It had so much detail; it's tropies, beads and weapons just hinted at an amazing life it must have lived. In many ways, it was also the most intimidating predator ever put to screen.
P2 - other preds: They all had great little bits of character, ranging from forhead tatoos to weapons, to masks, to small details. You could tell that a lof of effort was put into them.
AVP - I liked the armor design, but it was bulky. I also like Celtic's mask. However, ADI did a poor job with the faces. They looked like rubber chickens. They also overdid the facial expressions by a mile. The giant wristblades and synch-guns were goofy.
AVP - Elder - just as rubery as Scar. I've sen better halloween masks. I dig the spear though.
AVPR - I liked the mask. The face was also poorly done.
Ps - I liked the classic pred best. THe SP's had cool armor, and masks, but the superpred face was just crap at best.
anyone know what tattoos he's talking about??
Quote from: ridetofight on Aug 26, 2010, 05:43:08 PM
Quote from: Vulcan Rotary Cannon on Jul 30, 2010, 03:35:32 AM
P1 - the best. It was very well done, and the mandible and brow effects were done nicely. The creature truely looks like a living being from another world. I love all of the bone necklacess and other bits.
P2 - Main Hunter - Excellent. A bit different head shape, but it still works. The different coloration and tatoos make it very much it's own character. I also love the weapons.
P2 - Elder - Quite possibly the most bad ass looking predator ever. It had so much detail; it's tropies, beads and weapons just hinted at an amazing life it must have lived. In many ways, it was also the most intimidating predator ever put to screen.
P2 - other preds: They all had great little bits of character, ranging from forhead tatoos to weapons, to masks, to small details. You could tell that a lof of effort was put into them.
AVP - I liked the armor design, but it was bulky. I also like Celtic's mask. However, ADI did a poor job with the faces. They looked like rubber chickens. They also overdid the facial expressions by a mile. The giant wristblades and synch-guns were goofy.
AVP - Elder - just as rubery as Scar. I've sen better halloween masks. I dig the spear though.
AVPR - I liked the mask. The face was also poorly done.
Ps - I liked the classic pred best. THe SP's had cool armor, and masks, but the superpred face was just crap at best.
anyone know what tattoos he's talking about??
On the city hunters head try to find a i'll pic of it or something
Anything over 2 metres tall, wears a distinctive mask, has dreads, all the usual plasma caster, wrist blades etc etc and bends light over its body is good enough for me.
Quote from: delsaber8 on Aug 26, 2010, 08:27:43 PM
Quote from: ridetofight on Aug 26, 2010, 05:43:08 PM
Quote from: Vulcan Rotary Cannon on Jul 30, 2010, 03:35:32 AM
P1 - the best. It was very well done, and the mandible and brow effects were done nicely. The creature truely looks like a living being from another world. I love all of the bone necklacess and other bits.
P2 - Main Hunter - Excellent. A bit different head shape, but it still works. The different coloration and tatoos make it very much it's own character. I also love the weapons.
P2 - Elder - Quite possibly the most bad ass looking predator ever. It had so much detail; it's tropies, beads and weapons just hinted at an amazing life it must have lived. In many ways, it was also the most intimidating predator ever put to screen.
P2 - other preds: They all had great little bits of character, ranging from forhead tatoos to weapons, to masks, to small details. You could tell that a lof of effort was put into them.
AVP - I liked the armor design, but it was bulky. I also like Celtic's mask. However, ADI did a poor job with the faces. They looked like rubber chickens. They also overdid the facial expressions by a mile. The giant wristblades and synch-guns were goofy.
AVP - Elder - just as rubery as Scar. I've sen better halloween masks. I dig the spear though.
AVPR - I liked the mask. The face was also poorly done.
Ps - I liked the classic pred best. THe SP's had cool armor, and masks, but the superpred face was just crap at best.
anyone know what tattoos he's talking about??
On the city hunters head try to find a i'll pic of it or something
are you serious? there are a million pictures... there aren't any tattoos... can someone explain to me where this idea came from?
Quote from: ridetofight on Aug 26, 2010, 10:23:00 PM
Quote from: delsaber8 on Aug 26, 2010, 08:27:43 PM
Quote from: ridetofight on Aug 26, 2010, 05:43:08 PM
Quote from: Vulcan Rotary Cannon on Jul 30, 2010, 03:35:32 AM
P1 - the best. It was very well done, and the mandible and brow effects were done nicely. The creature truely looks like a living being from another world. I love all of the bone necklacess and other bits.
P2 - Main Hunter - Excellent. A bit different head shape, but it still works. The different coloration and tatoos make it very much it's own character. I also love the weapons.
P2 - Elder - Quite possibly the most bad ass looking predator ever. It had so much detail; it's tropies, beads and weapons just hinted at an amazing life it must have lived. In many ways, it was also the most intimidating predator ever put to screen.
P2 - other preds: They all had great little bits of character, ranging from forhead tatoos to weapons, to masks, to small details. You could tell that a lof of effort was put into them.
AVP - I liked the armor design, but it was bulky. I also like Celtic's mask. However, ADI did a poor job with the faces. They looked like rubber chickens. They also overdid the facial expressions by a mile. The giant wristblades and synch-guns were goofy.
AVP - Elder - just as rubery as Scar. I've sen better halloween masks. I dig the spear though.
AVPR - I liked the mask. The face was also poorly done.
Ps - I liked the classic pred best. THe SP's had cool armor, and masks, but the superpred face was just crap at best.
anyone know what tattoos he's talking about??
On the city hunters head try to find a i'll pic of it or something
are you serious? there are a million pictures... there aren't any tattoos... can someone explain to me where this idea came from?
See forehead:
(https://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.afhub.com%2Fimages%2Fhottoys%2Fpredator_2%2Fpredator2_2.jpg&hash=ced311813ecc964399f0a94edbe6b06c11ca1cca)
i think the picture link is broken, but are you talking about the symmetrical black coloration on his head? what leads you to believe those aren't biological? is there some source that you can cite or are people just assuming its a tattoo? i've honestly never heard of this before, and i'm a huge predator mark.
Quote from: ridetofight on Aug 27, 2010, 12:25:38 AM
i think the picture link is broken, but are you talking about the symmetrical black coloration on his head? what leads you to believe those aren't biological? is there some source that you can cite or are people just assuming its a tattoo? i've honestly never heard of this before, and i'm a huge predator mark.
(https://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fupload.wikimedia.org%2Fwikipedia%2Fen%2Fa%2Faa%2FPredator-unmasked.jpg&hash=868176c9da1622624307153a0639451513abf517)
Because it is on only one of them.
And it looks un-natural.
oh, okay, so its more of an opinion thing. that predator is the only one out of those four to use that color pallet... if it matches the symmetry of the skin pattern thats already there, it seems weird to me that it would be perceived as unnatural. the only other place it appears on his body, though, is his hands. i've just never heard any design team member or anyone affiliated with the movie say anything insinuating he had tattoos.
That's not a tattoo. Just a different skin pattern. Like snakes - different species, different skins. It's fairly obvious Pussyface is not the same type of Predator as Anytime... I mean, look at the ridge around his head. Far more pronounced than Anytime's.
Quote from: ridetofight on Aug 26, 2010, 10:23:00 PM
Quote from: delsaber8 on Aug 26, 2010, 08:27:43 PM
Quote from: ridetofight on Aug 26, 2010, 05:43:08 PM
Quote from: Vulcan Rotary Cannon on Jul 30, 2010, 03:35:32 AM
P1 - the best. It was very well done, and the mandible and brow effects were done nicely. The creature truely looks like a living being from another world. I love all of the bone necklacess and other bits.
P2 - Main Hunter - Excellent. A bit different head shape, but it still works. The different coloration and tatoos make it very much it's own character. I also love the weapons.
P2 - Elder - Quite possibly the most bad ass looking predator ever. It had so much detail; it's tropies, beads and weapons just hinted at an amazing life it must have lived. In many ways, it was also the most intimidating predator ever put to screen.
P2 - other preds: They all had great little bits of character, ranging from forhead tatoos to weapons, to masks, to small details. You could tell that a lof of effort was put into them.
AVP - I liked the armor design, but it was bulky. I also like Celtic's mask. However, ADI did a poor job with the faces. They looked like rubber chickens. They also overdid the facial expressions by a mile. The giant wristblades and synch-guns were goofy.
AVP - Elder - just as rubery as Scar. I've sen better halloween masks. I dig the spear though.
AVPR - I liked the mask. The face was also poorly done.
Ps - I liked the classic pred best. THe SP's had cool armor, and masks, but the superpred face was just crap at best.
anyone know what tattoos he's talking about??
On the city hunters head try to find a i'll pic of it or something
are you serious? there are a million pictures... there aren't any tattoos... can someone explain to me where this idea came from?
I think by tattoo he meant those red designs on the predators head.
Yeah def not tattoos. Just a skin pattern like a snake or whatever. Love the first design the best but the second is just as awesome. Harder looking.
My favorite is the first one. But I also love the ridges and spikes that the 2nd one had on his face.
I love predator but i prefer pussyface over anytime..
1. Wolf [AvP-R]
2. Scar [Predator 87']
Quote from: WolfPredator10 on Sep 29, 2010, 08:13:10 AM
1. Wolf [AvP-R]
2. Scar [Predator 87']
Scar is the predator from AvP, Anytime is the one from Predator.
Pussyface, Anytime, Wolf, Mr. Black. In that order.
Anytime and Gort!!!!!
And Gort
And GORT! >:(
Damn i forgot about gort. Also a personal favourite. I like it from Predator 1 more than its predator 2 counterpart.
Quote from: 08yeyinde on Oct 01, 2010, 02:29:39 PM
Anytime and Gort!!!!!
And Gort
And GORT! >:(
gort is just the city hunter without the trophies and the gort mask! c'mon! you should know that!
Quote from: ridetofight on Oct 03, 2010, 05:57:21 PM
Quote from: 08yeyinde on Oct 01, 2010, 02:29:39 PM
Anytime and Gort!!!!!
And Gort
And GORT! >:(
gort is just the city hunter without the trophies and the gort mask! c'mon! you should know that!
So what?
Quote from: 08yeyinde on Oct 01, 2010, 02:29:39 PM
And GORT! >:(
Yeah man, GORT!!
(https://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.robotokyo.com%2Fwp-content%2Fuploads%2F2009%2F01%2Fgort.jpg&hash=2ad9fdfdb657189c1ac21abae431a01c7cab8371)
:P
Quote from: OmegaZilla on Oct 05, 2010, 12:23:33 PM
Quote from: 08yeyinde on Oct 01, 2010, 02:29:39 PM
And GORT! >:(
Yeah man, GORT!!
(https://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.robotokyo.com%2Fwp-content%2Fuploads%2F2009%2F01%2Fgort.jpg&hash=2ad9fdfdb657189c1ac21abae431a01c7cab8371)
:P
http://klaatuandgort.wordpress.com/ (http://klaatuandgort.wordpress.com/)
Quote from: OmegaZilla on Oct 05, 2010, 12:23:33 PM
Quote from: 08yeyinde on Oct 01, 2010, 02:29:39 PM
And GORT! >:(
Yeah man, GORT!!
(https://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.robotokyo.com%2Fwp-content%2Fuploads%2F2009%2F01%2Fgort.jpg&hash=2ad9fdfdb657189c1ac21abae431a01c7cab8371)
:P
I so knew, so knew :D :D
Damn you to hell ;D ;D ;D
No, this one:
(https://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.predatorstuff.com%2Fgallery%2Fimages%2Fprops_-_full_costumes%2Fp2_movie_suits%2Fpredart392id.jpg&hash=49132ae35f8d70a37b723d8cda9ad57c8b16cf51)
Quote from: 08yeyinde on Oct 16, 2010, 08:10:55 AM
Quote from: OmegaZilla on Oct 05, 2010, 12:23:33 PM
Quote from: 08yeyinde on Oct 01, 2010, 02:29:39 PM
And GORT! >:(
Yeah man, GORT!!
(https://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.robotokyo.com%2Fwp-content%2Fuploads%2F2009%2F01%2Fgort.jpg&hash=2ad9fdfdb657189c1ac21abae431a01c7cab8371)
:P
I so knew, so knew :D :D
Damn you to hell ;D ;D ;D
No, this one:
http://www.predatorstuff.com/gallery/images/props_-_full_costumes/p2_movie_suits/predart392id.jpg
Original and still the best
And now tell me, is it a Predator production pic, isn't it?
It is. Gort had a different armor in P2 -
(https://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fv695%2Fvilebroth%2Fpredator%2Fgortscreenshot.png&hash=aeefcaf3dfa647249f612266b3eabc7f0f2d2b48)
The absence of the cable connecting shoulder armor with chest armor and complete absence of any plasma caster whatsoever are striking.
Quote from: OmegaZilla on Oct 17, 2010, 02:23:47 PM
It is. Gort had a different armor in P2 -
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v695/vilebroth/predator/gortscreenshot.png
The absence of the cable connecting shoulder armor with chest armor and complete absence of any plasma caster whatsoever are striking.
Okay, I thought as well... after almost leading myself to a false conclusion about hot toys gort.
But the armor here is similar to city hunter's, the shoulder plates are fixed by straps to the shoulder I guess. And no pc is visible.. yes, that's what interests me the most.
As much as i love the city hunter design, I love the Gort mask on Anytime.
Yeah me too! maybe because it was designed for the original predator..
yeh just seems so fitting.
city hunter ;D
Yep same for me
1) City Hunter
Everybody knows him, useless to put a pic ;D
2) BORG Predator (his officila mask is the boar mask)
(https://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi40.tinypic.com%2F357nktc.jpg&hash=e54fd75e4a0c08a9614418da77fb35bbfe782721)
3)Boar Predator (the one on the right) / and Anytime
(https://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fv695%2Fvilebroth%2Fpredator%2Flosthunters2.jpg&hash=29f19c70d05fc5affaa3dc98d6e4a84f5267605b)
man these suits are fu**in insane
Quote from: Urban Hunter on Oct 18, 2010, 11:19:31 AM
man these suits are fu**in insane
Yup , "Made in Stan Winston Studio". Contrary to the AvP wet walking craps
Quote from: FUZION PREDATOR on Oct 18, 2010, 11:29:12 AM
Quote from: Urban Hunter on Oct 18, 2010, 11:19:31 AM
man these suits are fu**in insane
Yup , "Made in Stan Winston Studio". Contrary to the AvP wet walking craps
aaah dont even mention those crack heads
Quote from: FUZION PREDATOR on Oct 18, 2010, 11:06:44 AM
Yep same for me
1) City Hunter
Everybody knows him, useless to put a pic ;D
2) BORG Predator (his officila mask is the boar mask)
http://i40.tinypic.com/357nktc.jpg
3)Boar Predator (the one on the right) / and Anytime
(https://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fv695%2Fvilebroth%2Fpredator%2Flosthunters2.jpg&hash=29f19c70d05fc5affaa3dc98d6e4a84f5267605b)
I really like the one to the left of Borg. The colouration is great. You can see it better in other pics.
Quote from: tonyzork on Oct 18, 2010, 12:50:25 PM
Quote from: FUZION PREDATOR on Oct 18, 2010, 11:06:44 AM
Yep same for me
1) City Hunter
Everybody knows him, useless to put a pic ;D
2) BORG Predator (his officila mask is the boar mask)
http://i40.tinypic.com/357nktc.jpg
3)Boar Predator (the one on the right) / and Anytime
(https://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fv695%2Fvilebroth%2Fpredator%2Flosthunters2.jpg&hash=29f19c70d05fc5affaa3dc98d6e4a84f5267605b)
I really like the one to the left of Borg. The colouration is great. You can see it better in other pics.
His name is BOAR and he has a brother ;)
This is BOAR
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AND This is his Brother
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See the customized Boar brother helmet
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fuzion any rare pics for pussyface ?
Quote from: Urban Hunter on Oct 18, 2010, 01:13:27 PM
fuzion any rare pics for pussyface ?
Sorry, but no. Ask Omegazilla he has some rare Pussyface pics
Ahhh i thought it was this guy without the mask
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Quote from: tonyzork on Oct 18, 2010, 01:21:39 PM
Ahhh i thought it was this guy without the mask
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Well the one on the right is called Hippie, behind him thier is Boar brother
on the left their is RAM (the Pred with the huge mask) and behind him their is SNAKE (i really don't know he is called like this)
Snake because of his skin patterns
Oh Okay, it makes sense then ;)
i would dispute the idea that the boar mask was also borg's. i think HTs just threw their favorite mask in with the figure.
Quote from: ridetofight on Oct 20, 2010, 07:04:53 PM
i would dispute the idea that the boar mask was also borg's. i think HTs just threw their favorite mask in with the figure.
Well in his apperance on the screen he was supposed to wear a boar mask, but given the huge amount of work on his face, it has been decid to let him without his mask.
But yeah Hot toys gave to Borg Predator, the Hippie spear (the tiny spear with the wirstblades on top) and gave him a trophy present in Pussyface trophy room (yes according to Stephen hopkins coments in bonus DVD n°2, the trophy room belongs to PF)
Quote from: FUZION PREDATOR on Oct 22, 2010, 02:29:08 PM
Quote from: ridetofight on Oct 20, 2010, 07:04:53 PM
i would dispute the idea that the boar mask was also borg's. i think HTs just threw their favorite mask in with the figure.
Well in his apperance on the screen he was supposed to wear a boar mask, but given the huge amount of work on his face, it has been decid to let him without his mask.
But yeah Hot toys gave to Borg Predator, the Hippie spear (the tiny spear with the wirstblades on top) and gave him a trophy present in Pussyface trophy room (yes according to Stephen hopkins coments in bonus DVD n°2, the trophy room belongs to PF)
do you have a source for this? the masks with helmets always have the face cut out...
You know what I just noticed? Check out the big F$% off Machete in his belt.
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Quote from: tonyzork on Oct 23, 2010, 12:31:49 AM
You know what I just noticed? Check out the big F$% off Machete in his belt.
http://img840.imageshack.us/img840/3075/predator101.jpg
Ooooh f*ck never noticed too, I WANT IT NOW ;D
Quote from: ridetofight on Oct 22, 2010, 10:54:59 PM
Quote from: FUZION PREDATOR on Oct 22, 2010, 02:29:08 PM
Quote from: ridetofight on Oct 20, 2010, 07:04:53 PM
i would dispute the idea that the boar mask was also borg's. i think HTs just threw their favorite mask in with the figure.
Well in his apperance on the screen he was supposed to wear a boar mask, but given the huge amount of work on his face, it has been decid to let him without his mask.
But yeah Hot toys gave to Borg Predator, the Hippie spear (the tiny spear with the wirstblades on top) and gave him a trophy present in Pussyface trophy room (yes according to Stephen hopkins coments in bonus DVD n°2, the trophy room belongs to PF)
do you have a source for this? the masks with helmets always have the face cut out...
On Wintson's concepts arts , showing borg with a boar mask.
Borg is the hot toys lost predator.... am i right? i thought he was called borg because of his chest armor...
Gort,Wolf,Celtic,and Anytime.
1. Elder p2
2. Anytime
3. Pussy face
There isn't any Predator design I
dislike, but I'd have to go with the original/P2 Elder/Classic design as the best. When I picture a Predator, theirs is the image that comes to mind.
As for "Kittyface" (meow! ;D), I thought he looked really good in close up shots, but not as well from far away; it almost looked like his mandibles were completely attached to his face when they were closed!
I had some problems with the Predator designs in
AVP as well, (though not nearly as many as everyone else seems to have! ;) ), but actually remember Scar's face as being pretty cool looking, at least in the film; he does look weird in photos, when the face isn't in motion. (Same thing with Kittyface, actually.) I will say, though, that the Elder looked
awesome!
I haven't seen
AVPR yet (one of the two Predator films I have yet to see), but judging by the clips I've seen I doubt I'll get a good look at Wolf's face! From stills I'd say he looks alright, better in the dark than brightly lit shots (unfortunately, it looks like the Strause brothers took that a
little too seriously...).
Berserker's face was...okay. It
was menacing, but it also looked like a pale shadow of the original Predator design, made even more so considering that (spoiler for those who haven't seen Predators yet and plan too)
Spoiler
the film practically flaunted the design as being oh-so-cooler than the original by revealing it just before Berserker killed Classic in a display of power, all as yet another way of demonstrating the Super Predators' infinite superiority to the ones we've come to know and love. Despite the fact that the solo-working original took on the exact same amount of people in an unfamiliar setting as the three stronger, more powerful Predators did in their own territory, and that it nearly beat Arnie to death while Tracker failed to notice the thermal signature Nikolai's mines would have radiated; Berserker decided to savor killing Edwin and Isabelle for no (logical) reason so that he could fail to notice the heat signature generated by multiple grenades on one of them and allow the other to conveniently wound him at a crucial moment before being taken down by a guy whom Arnold could very probably take down easily despite them both delivering great lead performances; and Falconer was killed by one frickin' sword slash!!! Heck, Kittyface was as foolish as could be during his battle with Harrigan, but he still took down dozens of gang members, cops, and special government operatives who could probably give anyone in Predators a run for their money if they hadn't been so darn stupid, got shot multiple times, sprayed with liquid nitrogen, got his arm cut off, fell into a building, and dropped down an elevator shaft through open space onto his spaceship while injured...and he still kept on fighting! Heck, now Danny Glover killing Predator *with its own weapon* seems almost realistic in comparison to a far superior group of Predators dying ON THEIR OWN FRIKKIN' PLANET! AVP was better than this in that at least Chopper was up against an Alien, which made his death somewhat credible (notice, I said somewhat). Just imagine if Chopper had come up to Alexis and extended his arm blades, Alexis pulls out her pickaxe for climbing on the ice, and the two fighting with Alexis dodging I Not only that, but Falconer and Tracker could have been some of the coolest Predators forever, but now they're gone...gone forever...their potential wasted.... :'(
So, yeah. Sorry that I got off topic, but I needed to vent. I did enjoy watching Predators even if I didn't think the movie itself was very good. At least I didn't hate it!
Overall, I think Berserker's design could have been better, but it was still pretty effective in that I wouldn't want to bump into him in the middle of the night!
I'm intrigued, though, as to what the sequel to Predators would be like design-wise. Would they do the film as a tribute to
Predator 2, with it being set in an alien city overrun by crime, and have a Kittyface-lookalike for the new Super Predator trio to beat the heck out of? (Either way, I hope they bring back some of the weaponry featured from
Predator 2 onwards, like the net-gun and the smart-disk; they've become too much a part of the Predator iconography to be left out in my opinion.)
Quote from: Peakius Baragonius on Nov 11, 2010, 04:45:32 AM
I haven't seen AVPR yet (one of the two Predator films I have yet to see), but judging by the clips I've seen I doubt I'll get a good look at Wolf's face! From stills I'd say he looks alright, better in the dark than brightly lit shots (unfortunately, it looks like the Strause brothers took that a little too seriously...).
I savez u fom AvP ar.
Some shots from the AvPG gallery:
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Spoiler
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:D :D
Quote from: OmegaZilla on Nov 13, 2010, 06:14:09 PM
I savez u fom AvP ar.
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Wow! That has to be the best Predator design EVER!!! :D Thanks!
Alas, being a fan, I am afraid that I am doomed to suffer through AVPR one day or another, so that I can say for myself that it sucked (or, maybe, the other way around.), and see for myself why everyone dislikes it. Still, thanks for trying to save me! ;)
What do you think about the actual design, though?
I think it looks pretty good, if not great. He does look a bit weird around the mouth, for some reason I can't quite pin down (mandibles too big, maybe?). Also, his eyes and open mouth give him a sort of "whoa!" expression! :) It does look a little...fake, somehow, but in the clips it looks fine in motion. I still think it looks better in darkness than in well-lit areas, but overall, it's okay.
I'm interested to know...what design is his face primarily based on? It looks rather like a semi-succesful cross between all three prior Predator designs; overall layout of Anytime's head, longated forehead/spikes from Kittyface, large mandibles and humanish eyes from AVP. Any other details I'm missing?
And what do you think of it, OmegaZilla (and are you a Godzilla fan, judging by your name? If so, you're not alone! ;D)
Thats pretty much spot on. Its a mash up of them all. While an improvement over the AVP designs it's still far from perfect.
Quote from: Peakius Baragonius on Nov 15, 2010, 03:09:36 AM
And what do you think of it,
To me it looks ugly. Not contesting the quality of the actual animatronics, which is undoubtely good, but the face is unpleasant to look at, literally. The second pic I posted is the only one I can watch without thinking so.
Quote from: Peakius Baragonius on Nov 15, 2010, 03:09:36 AM
OmegaZilla (and are you a Godzilla fan, judging by your name? If so, you're not alone! ;D)
Maybe (http://www.premiere.com/var/ezflow_site/storage/images/list/the-15-greatest-scary-flicks-ever-remade/8.-godzilla/62871-1-eng-US/8.-Godzilla_imagelarge.jpg). ;) ;D
But I do like a a good part of the japanese flicks. Mmm, just noticed that the second part of your nickname is Baragon with a -ius suffix. Intentional? :P
Wolf's face was the only thing I didn't like about the design. The rest was pretty spot on.
Quote from: Peakius Baragonius on Nov 15, 2010, 03:09:36 AM
I think it looks pretty good, if not great. He does look a bit weird around the mouth, for some reason I can't quite pin down (mandibles too big, maybe?). Also, his eyes and open mouth give him a sort of "whoa!" expression! :) It does look a little...fake, somehow, but in the clips it looks fine in motion. I still think it looks better in darkness than in well-lit areas, but overall, it's okay.
The entire head looked too big. It looked disproportionate to his body, that is. And the little tusks at the tips of his mouth looked freaking ridiculous.
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in this pic he looks exactly like the neca fig...
I think when the decided to create artificial eyes it all went downhill. Pred 1&2 had KPH's eyes with makeup on the eye lids to give a believable performance in the eyes. Some people dont think this matters but there's a clear distinction between P1&P2 and all films that followed.
Quote from: WolfPredator89 on Nov 16, 2010, 08:12:52 AM
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in this pic he looks exactly like the neca fig...
He just looks so fake in the production stills, and though I appreciate that they went back with the more leaner looking Predator, I think they overly done it. I prefer the body build of originals, such as Jungle Hunter and City Hunter or even the Predators in 2010 Predators.
Quote from: OmegaZilla on Nov 15, 2010, 01:37:26 PM
Quote from: Peakius Baragonius on Nov 15, 2010, 03:09:36 AM
And what do you think of it,
To me it looks ugly. Not contesting the quality of the actual animatronics, which is undoubtely good, but the face is unpleasant to look at, literally. The second pic I posted is the only one I can watch without thinking so.
Quote from: Peakius Baragonius on Nov 15, 2010, 03:09:36 AM
OmegaZilla (and are you a Godzilla fan, judging by your name? If so, you're not alone! ;D)
Maybe (http://www.premiere.com/var/ezflow_site/storage/images/list/the-15-greatest-scary-flicks-ever-remade/8.-godzilla/62871-1-eng-US/8.-Godzilla_imagelarge.jpg). ;) ;D
But I do like a a good part of the japanese flicks. Mmm, just noticed that the second part of your nickname is Baragon with a -ius suffix. Intentional? :P
Maybe ;D
You know, after studying Wolf's design in both stills and toys I'm still not 100% sure which of his eyes is the glass one. Am I right in saying it is the right one?
Aha! Maybe it is the eyes that were bothering me! Looking at pictures of the original Predators, their faces look much more ferocious, and the eyes are a big part of that.
Right for us, from the Predator point of view, it's his left. It was digitally altered for it to give a pupil-less look.
That's the fake one? Weird. It does look unusually human-like in its color, oddly...so Wolf's true eye color is the reddish hue found on his right (to him) eye?
Quote from: Peakius Baragonius on Nov 18, 2010, 12:09:31 AM
That's the fake one? Weird. It does look unusually human-like in its color, oddly...so Wolf's true eye color is the reddish hue found on his right (to him) eye?
yep remember he is a predator...
Quote from: WolfPredator89 on Nov 18, 2010, 03:26:24 AM
Quote from: Peakius Baragonius on Nov 18, 2010, 12:09:31 AM
That's the fake one? Weird. It does look unusually human-like in its color, oddly...so Wolf's true eye color is the reddish hue found on his right (to him) eye?
yep remember he is a predator...
Oh, right! I forgot. ;)
What I'm interested to know is what the Super Predators will look like in Predator: Resurrection (which is as of now the official name). Will they be tributes to the "Original" Super Predator designs, like with Classic to Anytime?
Or maybe, many years from now, someone will make a design meant to look like "the Original Wolf..."
;D
;)
Quote from: Peakius Baragonius on Nov 18, 2010, 03:58:22 AM
Quote from: WolfPredator89 on Nov 18, 2010, 03:26:24 AM
Quote from: Peakius Baragonius on Nov 18, 2010, 12:09:31 AM
That's the fake one? Weird. It does look unusually human-like in its color, oddly...so Wolf's true eye color is the reddish hue found on his right (to him) eye?
yep remember he is a predator...
Oh, right! I forgot. ;)
What I'm interested to know is what the Super Predators will look like in Predator: Resurrection (which is as of now the official name). Will they be tributes to the "Original" Super Predator designs, like with Classic to Anytime?
Or maybe, many years from now, someone will make a design meant to look like "the Original Wolf..."
;D
;)
;D
I answered that because of this ..
That's the fake one? Weird. It does look unusually human-like in its color,
My point of reference is the Classic Predator toy, which seems pretty accurate; it has white eyes w/ black pupils, suspiciously similar to those of actor Kevin Peter Hall....
Hmmm. I'll have to go look at some more pics!
;D
Which do you guys think is better, Anytime's design or Classic's design? And also, what were the differences, aside from height?
Anytime design...
differences are:
the mouth, the jaws, the skin pattern, longer dreads... classic predator looks fat...
Anytime
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Anytime had a lot more black spots on the brown base. Classic's spots are few and far between and a lot lighter shade. Their built is different too. Anytime had a more human, chiseled torso, while classic's was "flatter" giving him a fat appearance. Anytime could also close his mandibles. ;D
Quote from: Ghostface on Nov 19, 2010, 04:16:39 AM
Anytime had a lot more black spots on the brown base. Classic's spots are few and far between and a lot lighter shade. Their built is different too. Anytime had a more human, chiseled torso, while classic's was "flatter" giving him a fat appearance. Anytime could also close his mandibles. ;D
Yeah maybe classic predator needs braces!
There are also differences in mask and shoulder canon design, wrist computers colours, lower mandible lenght (closing mouth...), and hair on chest.
Thanks for the pictures!
Wow. The two are a lot more different than I'd realized. (Anytime still comes out on top!)
Poor Classic... the SPs chain him up, leave him there for days, make him get fat, and cut his head off while the Super Predators' agents in Hollywood filmmakers hail their accomplishment at featuring him in the film only to give him less than ten minutes of screen time, and make him unable to surprise attack Berserker in the end, and give him botox for his mandibles. Their intentions were to expose the injustice and tragic treatment of the character, but instead Berserker and the rest bought him off. This was supposed to be his moment of honor after all these years.
I think we've all been punked.
Yes, you're right I think, but...
LOL for the description :D :D
Quote from: Peakius Baragonius on Nov 21, 2010, 04:03:06 AM
Thanks for the pictures!
Wow. The two are a lot more different than I'd realized. (Anytime still comes out on top!)
Poor Classic... the SPs chain him up, leave him there for days, make him get fat, and cut his head off while the Super Predators' agents in Hollywood filmmakers hail their accomplishment at featuring him in the film only to give him less than ten minutes of screen time, and make him unable to surprise attack Berserker in the end, and give him botox for his mandibles. Their intentions were to expose the injustice and tragic treatment of the character, but instead Berserker and the rest bought him off. This was supposed to be his moment of honor after all these years.
I think we've all been punked.
quoted for truth :D :D
;D 8)
If only it weren't.
Say...were Classic's eyes artificial, or Derek Mears' painted yellow?
honestly i Don't know ???
Wolf's eyes were surley artificialy improve. Just watch AvPR ( you will maybe like it , like me ;) )
Quote from: FUZION PREDATOR on Nov 21, 2010, 11:16:09 PM
honestly i Don't know ???
Wolf's eyes were surley artificialy improve. Just watch AvPR ( you will maybe like it , like me ;) )
There's always someone... :)
Predator's Predator design is my personal favourite, I think it's the best (with Predator 2's coming close second, and Predators' designs coming in third, AvPR's fourth and AvP's last)
Quote from: Peakius Baragonius on Nov 21, 2010, 08:37:54 PM
;D 8)
If only it weren't.
Say...were Classic's eyes artificial, or Derek Mears' painted yellow?
dunno if it's answer to your question, but Nicotero said bsp had artifically controlled eyes, and Classic had contact lenses.
Interesting...
Is that what they used for the first two Predators as well?
Thanks, man!
Quote from: 08yeyinde on Nov 24, 2010, 04:46:13 AM
Quote from: Peakius Baragonius on Nov 21, 2010, 08:37:54 PM
;D 8)
If only it weren't.
Say...were Classic's eyes artificial, or Derek Mears' painted yellow?
dunno if it's answer to your question, but Nicotero said bsp had artifically controlled eyes, and Classic had contact lenses.
Well, I heard no interviews or comments on that one, but there is a pic about kph with lenses from behind the scenes gallery here (seems p2, slaughterhouse scene), so I guess answer is yes to that one too. Not sure about it though :-\
Yeh Pred 1 &2 were just contact lenses and black makeup around the eyes. It looks infinately better and gives more performance from the face. Theres just subtle little movements that animatronics cant replicate.
Predator 2.
Wolf from AVP: R for me. I don't know, he kind of stood out compared to Jungle Hunter, City Hunter, Slasher, Celtic, and Scar. He kind of looked like a more beefed up and more fit version of the others, can't put my finger on it. Kind of surprised no one put designs from Predators here, the Super Black Yautja were pretty awesome, especially Berserker/Mr. Black.
Quote from: Twin Drive Sigma Aquarion on Dec 16, 2010, 01:13:46 AM
Wolf from AVP: R for me. I don't know, he kind of stood out compared to Jungle Hunter, City Hunter, Slasher, Celtic, and Scar. He kind of looked like a more beefed up and more fit version of the others, can't put my finger on it. Kind of surprised no one put designs from Predators here, the Super Black Yautja were pretty awesome, especially Berserker/Mr. Black.
This thread was started in 2007
I thought polls could be updated here, sorry.
Quote from: Ghostface on Dec 16, 2010, 01:35:19 AM
Quote from: Twin Drive Sigma Aquarion on Dec 16, 2010, 01:13:46 AM
Wolf from AVP: R for me. I don't know, he kind of stood out compared to Jungle Hunter, City Hunter, Slasher, Celtic, and Scar. He kind of looked like a more beefed up and more fit version of the others, can't put my finger on it. Kind of surprised no one put designs from Predators here, the Super Black Yautja were pretty awesome, especially Berserker/Mr. Black.
This thread was started in 2007
And yet it remains relevant to this day. 8)
As long as they keep making Predator movies we keep posting ;)
Quote from: Ghostface on Dec 16, 2010, 02:32:26 AM
As long as they keep making Predator movies we keep posting ;)
Hopefully we'll keep posting forever, then... ;)
For some reason, I like AVP's designs the most. :-\
Quote from: predxeno on Jan 18, 2011, 05:49:30 AM
For some reason, I like AVP's designs the most. :-\
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I like the original predator's design it looks more tribal and monsterish than predator 2. Avp design makes the predator look nearly human like. AvP R's design looks like a aged war torn version of the original predator.
Kevin Peter Hall was the best Predator. The creatures - no, characters he played in the first two films are fantastic and beautifully brought to life by Stan Winston. The AVP teenagers were a little too bulky for my tastes. I know the idea was that they were young and needed extra armour to hunt Aliens, but it was little too much. I did like how expressive Scar's face was, though.
Wolf was awesome.
I would say predator 1 or 2 ''looked'' the most scary but i liked Wolfs apearance best pitty the movie was so dark..
Wolf for me. The design as a whole was badass. But I've always had a thing for the classic look of Anytime and Classic.
Tie, thus I can't vote: Predator and Predator 2. Stan Winston designs can't be beat.
Predator one design is my favourite.
Predator two design is pretty groovy still.
Anytime face. AVP body. Best design.
Quote from: Keith on Jan 26, 2011, 10:18:41 PM
Tie, thus I can't vote: Predator and Predator 2. Stan Winston designs can't be beat.
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Your damn skippy.
Quote from: ScarredWolf on Jan 26, 2011, 09:21:41 PM
Wolf for me. The design as a whole as badass. But I've always had a thing for the classic look of Anytime and Classic.
Thing I don't like about wolf is his forehead. It'a like he is a cone head, too steep from face. Other than that he is OK.
Quote from: bleau on Feb 16, 2011, 05:50:25 AM
Quote from: ScarredWolf on Jan 26, 2011, 09:21:41 PM
Wolf for me. The design as a whole as badass. But I've always had a thing for the classic look of Anytime and Classic.
Thing I don't like about wolf is his forehead. It'a like he is a cone head, too steep from face. Other than that he is OK.
I see what you mean but I don't have a problem with that. Like humans Predators may have slightly different head shapes.
Quote from: ScarredWolf on Feb 17, 2011, 03:13:12 AM
Quote from: bleau on Feb 16, 2011, 05:50:25 AM
Quote from: ScarredWolf on Jan 26, 2011, 09:21:41 PM
Wolf for me. The design as a whole as badass. But I've always had a thing for the classic look of Anytime and Classic.
Thing I don't like about wolf is his forehead. It'a like he is a cone head, too steep from face. Other than that he is OK.
I see what you mean but I don't have a problem with that. Like humans Predators may have slightly different head shapes.
Yeah, I agree with you on that one, ScarredWolf. I heard a lot of people saying his forehead was too big, I didn't even notice it till they said that.
I went with P1, but I love ALL of them.
Of course the original predator is the best,but I thought AVPR's Wolf Was badass looking too.
Quote from: bleau on Feb 16, 2011, 05:50:25 AM
Quote from: ScarredWolf on Jan 26, 2011, 09:21:41 PM
Wolf for me. The design as a whole as badass. But I've always had a thing for the classic look of Anytime and Classic.
Thing I don't like about wolf is his forehead. It'a like he is a cone head, too steep from face. Other than that he is OK.
If you didn't like Wolf's forehead, Pussyface's musta driven you crazy. His was friggin' enormous.
I loved Pussyface's head design; it was grotesque, scary, and coool. ;D
Predator 2 has a quite nice design, tbh.
The AvP design totally sucked. It looked like Predator jocks that sat around doing nothing but playing games and drinking beer.
Quote from: RDdaNINJA on Mar 08, 2011, 12:13:34 AM
The AvP design totally sucked. It looked like Predator jocks that sat around doing nothing but playing games and drinking beer.
And killing Aliens (at least some of them).
Besides, they were "havin' me some fun!" :P
Predator has the best Design,
But in Predator 2 they also did not a bad job.
This was a close one for me, as I loved both the original and AVP R, I liked the others too, its just the original was always going to be one of the best, and well, AvPR's, I just liked the overall look, especially the eyes, and its slimmer look.
My favourite Predator design is Celtic from AVP imho.
My favorite's Predator 2's Pussy Face design its got the red/black/brown color scheme almost like a snake and I love his mask to! P1 is close behind and P2 Lost Preds are great aswell! AVP preds suck IMO AVP:R is my least fave of all of them but thats just my opinion.
Quote from: CityHunter7x7 on Mar 13, 2011, 02:23:52 AM
My favorite's Predator 2's Pussy Face design its got the red/black/brown color scheme almost like a snake and I love his mask to! P1 is close behind and P2 Lost Preds are great aswell! AVP preds suck IMO AVP:R is my least fave of all of them but thats just my opinion.
Why is it? Just curious.
Quote from: DarkenedWolf on Mar 21, 2011, 10:30:57 PM
Quote from: CityHunter7x7 on Mar 13, 2011, 02:23:52 AM
My favorite's Predator 2's Pussy Face design its got the red/black/brown color scheme almost like a snake and I love his mask to! P1 is close behind and P2 Lost Preds are great aswell! AVP preds suck IMO AVP:R is my least fave of all of them but thats just my opinion.
Why is it? Just curious.
Well its just un-apealing to me is all I didnt like his mask as much as the others and quite boreing feels like the AVP designs just all in one instead of three. Hope you didnt take any offense or anything from my opinion but thats just my thoughts.
Quote from: CityHunter7x7 on Mar 26, 2011, 01:03:45 AM
Quote from: DarkenedWolf on Mar 21, 2011, 10:30:57 PM
Quote from: CityHunter7x7 on Mar 13, 2011, 02:23:52 AM
My favorite's Predator 2's Pussy Face design its got the red/black/brown color scheme almost like a snake and I love his mask to! P1 is close behind and P2 Lost Preds are great aswell! AVP preds suck IMO AVP:R is my least fave of all of them but thats just my opinion.
Why is it? Just curious.
Well its just un-apealing to me is all I didnt like his mask as much as the others and quite boreing feels like the AVP designs just all in one instead of three. Hope you didnt take any offense or anything from my opinion but thats just my thoughts.
No offence just wondered. To me the mask was more like Pussyface's then anything. Wolf's I mean.
Quote from: DarkenedWolf on Mar 26, 2011, 02:34:19 AM
Quote from: CityHunter7x7 on Mar 26, 2011, 01:03:45 AM
Quote from: DarkenedWolf on Mar 21, 2011, 10:30:57 PM
Quote from: CityHunter7x7 on Mar 13, 2011, 02:23:52 AM
My favorite's Predator 2's Pussy Face design its got the red/black/brown color scheme almost like a snake and I love his mask to! P1 is close behind and P2 Lost Preds are great aswell! AVP preds suck IMO AVP:R is my least fave of all of them but thats just my opinion.
Why is it? Just curious.
Well its just un-apealing to me is all I didnt like his mask as much as the others and quite boreing feels like the AVP designs just all in one instead of three. Hope you didnt take any offense or anything from my opinion but thats just my thoughts.
No offence just wondered. To me the mask was more like Pussyface's then anything. Wolf's I mean.
Really? Hm I never thought he looked like Pussyface. Now that you mention it, it does kind of resemble it.
Don't worry CityHunter7x7, despise Wolf all you want. :P
Quote from: OmegaZilla on Mar 26, 2011, 11:54:41 AM
Don't worry CityHunter7x7, despise Wolf all you want. :P
No City Hunter7X7, don't >:(
Spoiler
;D
Chopper"s my pick... oh shit I just figured out how he got his name, it just came to me.....Cuz of his skulls that stick out in the back sorta like bikers riight?
No, because his blades are supposed to 'chop' things... :P
Also wasn't his name Gill for those gills on his mask or something?
Quote from: OmegaZilla on Mar 26, 2011, 10:49:09 PM
No, because his blades are supposed to 'chop' things... :P
Also wasn't his name Gill for those gills on his mask or something?
Really? That's news to me.
Quote from: OmegaZilla on Mar 26, 2011, 10:49:09 PM
Also wasn't his name Gill for those gills on his mask or something?
Yes. The lines on his mask were akin to gills.
Yeah I've known that for awhile predxeno since not to long after I seen AVP for the first time years ago.
Quote from: OmegaZilla on Mar 26, 2011, 10:49:09 PM
No, because his blades are supposed to 'chop' things... :P
Also wasn't his name Gill for those gills on his mask or something?
Yes, as in Predator "gills":
(https://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg84.imageshack.us%2Fimg84%2F6051%2Fpredatorn.jpg&hash=176f48e96c37e6d1fccfa469cadffed9e47d2753)
Back when they used to know how to make them.
What are you talking about?
Probably the skin texture in the membrane that links upper mandibles and lower mandibles (since they're in the same place as Gill's... gills are).
Just skin contractions, far as I'm concerned.
OmegaZilla follows me. That's why I put "gills" in quotes. They're probably not really gills like in fishes, but they sort of look like them (to me at least).
I thought we were talking about gill indentations that were on Chopper's mask. Wow, I really don't know my Predator gills. :D :-[
What we were saying is that Chopper's 'gills' on his mask are a translation into mask design of that skin texture - as, for example, Gort Predator mimicked a Predator face, kind of, in his mask design.
Yes. That's how I see it anyway, especially when you throw in the name "Gill".
(https://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg26.imageshack.us%2Fimg26%2F9441%2Favpgill.jpg&hash=fc299398f91d46d134f12b3bf617ec30d70c9ae7)
(https://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg84.imageshack.us%2Fimg84%2F6051%2Fpredatorn.jpg&hash=176f48e96c37e6d1fccfa469cadffed9e47d2753)
Hard to see only because when the Pred opens his mouth they disappear entirely. Which lends itself to what I said about skin contractions.
Yes, yes.
Those skin contractions look like gills.
Aren't they skin folds?
P2 Elder also has the "gills", but they're a little hard to see in the movie because of the lighting. Same goes for Pussyface, but his are also hard to see because of his coloration.
(https://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg151.imageshack.us%2Fimg151%2F5751%2F081407elderpredator.jpg&hash=2fbd1aef722f9d4f008bc018d09dd9ac963712d6)
... has no-one heard of the word "wrinkle" around here?
If the last page serves as evidence, the answer is no.
Quote from: SiL on Mar 28, 2011, 10:48:27 PM
... has no-one heard of the word "wrinkle" around here?
Yeah, but due to their appearance and location, they look a little "gill-ish".
(https://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg823.imageshack.us%2Fimg823%2F8958%2F6gillshark1.jpg&hash=ea22c246b8466b942ee69a73e8ea3ccaf27bfdec)
(https://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg84.imageshack.us%2Fimg84%2F6051%2Fpredatorn.jpg&hash=176f48e96c37e6d1fccfa469cadffed9e47d2753)
Quote from: Keith on Mar 29, 2011, 02:50:07 AM
Quote from: SiL on Mar 28, 2011, 10:48:27 PM
... has no-one heard of the word "wrinkle" around here?
Yeah, but due to their appearance and location, they look a little "gill-ish".
http://img823.imageshack.us/img823/8958/6gillshark1.jpg
http://img84.imageshack.us/img84/6051/predatorn.jpg
(https://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi121.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fo207%2Flaureldevoto%2FsharkGills01.jpg&hash=0e3ec5e2a208fcaf8cd316706e8f0a1e7ef953de)(https://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2F3.bp.blogspot.com%2F_flE8xAxihOg%2FTAH5ArytmYI%2FAAAAAAAAERo%2FLGowNUHF754%2Fs1600%2FSex%2BAnd%2BThe%2BCity%2527s%2BKim%2BCattrall%2Breveals%2Bher%2Bdrooping%2Bjowls%2B%2B1.jpg&hash=2c5c098f0e7de698008941db8b17b376b06567d0)
Uh, your bottom picture reminds me of wrinkles and rolls of fat. Sorry.
I accept your apology.
Wrong interpretation, but that's fine.
Glad we could be so civil.
I think those "gills" are just skin folds.
Quote from: predxeno on Mar 29, 2011, 04:38:53 AM
I think those "gills" are just skin folds.
They are! But what we've been saying is that those skin folds
look like gills and were the inspiration for the gill-
like marks on Chopper's mask.
Probably not.
Quote from: OmegaZilla on Mar 29, 2011, 12:08:43 PM
Quote from: predxeno on Mar 29, 2011, 04:38:53 AM
I think those "gills" are just skin folds.
They are! But what we've been saying is that those skin folds look like gills and were the inspiration for the gill-like marks on Chopper's mask.
(https://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg26.imageshack.us%2Fimg26%2F9441%2Favpgill.jpg&hash=fc299398f91d46d134f12b3bf617ec30d70c9ae7)
(https://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg84.imageshack.us%2Fimg84%2F6051%2Fpredatorn.jpg&hash=176f48e96c37e6d1fccfa469cadffed9e47d2753)
If they were inspiration wouldnt they be facing the same direction?
Quote from: Ghostface on Mar 29, 2011, 12:18:46 PM
Quote from: OmegaZilla on Mar 29, 2011, 12:08:43 PM
Quote from: predxeno on Mar 29, 2011, 04:38:53 AM
I think those "gills" are just skin folds.
They are! But what we've been saying is that those skin folds look like gills and were the inspiration for the gill-like marks on Chopper's mask.
If they were inspiration wouldnt they be facing the same direction?
Well, it was AVP afterall. Can't expect them to get everything right.
Quote from: Ghostface on Mar 29, 2011, 12:18:46 PM
If they were inspiration wouldnt they be facing the same direction?
Oh jeebs.
Sorry, I kind'a got mixed with the Chopper prototype (or was it? Can't really remember) which has them ordered vertically.
My apologies.
The mask definitely does resemble gills though. The way that each part seems to fold over the one below it.
1. Gort
2. Anytime
3. Elder
4. Pussyface
5. Scar
1. City Hunter (Pussyface)
2. Elder (Predator 2)
3. Anytime
4. Mr. Black
5. Falconer
6. Tracker
No love for Celtic? C'mon he was the only awesome predator in the whole movie!
P1
P1 (Gort)
Tracker
Celtic (Mask neway. hated the bulky look.)
Pussy Face
Quote from: Taraka on Apr 08, 2011, 12:30:42 AM
P1
P1 (Gort)
Tracker
Celtic (Mask neway. hated the bulky look.)
Pussy Face
I definitely agree the celtic mask was awesome but like you I dislike the bulky look.
I always loved the design of the mas of the first Predator. And it stayed with me for a while since its the same design Predators had in some of my favorite comics like Batman vs Predator and the first AVP comic. Having said that, I never liked any of the other Predator masks at all. Maybe Scar's a little since its a little similar to the original but thats it
I am partial to the predator 1 mask but i do like all the different designs from the other Pred/AVP movies as well!! :)
(https://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fa3.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net%2Fhphotos-ak-ash1%2F182599_183661465002862_130940650274944_355281_1066863_n.jpg&hash=eb0e46ae64df54ddc0e03537a817a264f502f86c)
I have to say i love this design a lot !
(https://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Foi53.tinypic.com%2Fnov5tu.jpg&hash=89723d3f1d52c839eefeb6955a446ae428c3821e)
Quote from: predxeno on Jan 18, 2011, 05:49:30 AM
For some reason, I like AVP's designs the most. :-\
Yay, me too.
#1 all of them i honestly liked every single desighn including avp 2010s awesome desighn
I liked the Elder predators design and face it looked really awesome. On AvP
I wrote a kind-of article on the Predator design and how it has... changed ('evolved' would be almost an oxymoron, after Predator 2). Here it is.
The Predator Design throughout the Years (http://monsterlegacy.blogspot.com/2011/07/predator-design-throughout-years.html)
Quote from: OmegaZilla on Jul 30, 2011, 01:32:03 PM
I wrote a kind-of article on the Predator design and how it has... changed ('evolved' would be almost an oxymoron, after Predator 2). Here it is.
The Predator Design throughout the Years (http://monsterlegacy.blogspot.com/2011/07/predator-design-throughout-years.html)
Dude i really like your article ;) Never really noticed the extra teeth on the avp predators :S
Quote from: OmegaZilla on Jul 30, 2011, 01:32:03 PM
I wrote a kind-of article on the Predator design and how it has... changed ('evolved' would be almost an oxymoron, after Predator 2). Here it is.
The Predator Design throughout the Years (http://monsterlegacy.blogspot.com/2011/07/predator-design-throughout-years.html)
Heyy that was a cool article, I never noticed that the lovely Wolf was blind in one eye and missing a tusk :3 Shows how much attention I paid in that movie to the one good thing in it >.>
Quote from: OmegaZilla on Jul 30, 2011, 01:32:03 PM
I wrote a kind-of article on the Predator design and how it has... changed ('evolved' would be almost an oxymoron, after Predator 2). Here it is.
The Predator Design throughout the Years (http://monsterlegacy.blogspot.com/2011/07/predator-design-throughout-years.html)
Great article OZ! I never made the "Broken Tusk" connection with Wolf before, now that's embarrassing :-[
jungle hunter is the best design of alls, it feels to be real, then city hunter, both are the best.
for the new predators wolf is the best, better than berserker and friends or the avp american football players.
Jungle Hunter will always be the best in my opinion, and though I liked the design of City Hunter in the sequel, I've always had a preference towards the Elder Predator as well. In terms of mask design, I've always had a particular liking to the mask worn by Celtic.
I can't really say which design I love the most. It's a tie between Anytime, Ghost and Ram. Anytime is subtle and very smooth, it's a very cool design. Ghost is subtle for a city image and very stealthy. Ram is also sweet, his mask kicks ass and his overall design kicks ass. Im sorry, but I don't have a more direct answer.
I quite liked the design of the Berserker Predators in Predators. However, I've always sort of felt that the costumes were incomplete, like they were missing certain armour pieces or lacking certain details.
Quote from: Vecrotus on Sep 22, 2011, 04:51:12 PM
I quite liked the design of the Berserker Predators in Predators. However, I've always sort of felt that the costumes were incomplete, like they were missing certain armour pieces or lacking certain details.
I agree I think it was the body netting that was mssing.
That was one the things that I thought the Berserker Predators could do with. I also that two wrist blades would have looked better than one. There was also a lack of trophy belts.
Quote from: Vecrotus on Sep 22, 2011, 08:59:06 PM
That was one the things that I thought the Berserker Predators could do with. I also that two wrist blades would have looked better than one. There was also a lack of trophy belts.
The single wristblade definitly hurt the design.
Quote from: delsaber8 on Sep 22, 2011, 09:19:22 PM
Quote from: Vecrotus on Sep 22, 2011, 08:59:06 PM
That was one the things that I thought the Berserker Predators could do with. I also that two wrist blades would have looked better than one. There was also a lack of trophy belts.
The single wristblade definitly hurt the design.
Agreed, not to fond of the single blade either. Although I liked the Falconer/Ninja sword battle, the fact that it was a sword battle vs a single wrist blade made it kinda cheesy too, imho.
Chopper did it better.
His was just an overkill lol.
I liked the idea of Mr. Black having three wrist blades in the leaked script. For some reason it sounds more menacing than one.
Too much like Wolverine, no?
Not really, no.
If Berserker had double blades but on both arms, that would be a nicer touch. Personally I wont think triple blades would work. Uni-Blades on the Super Predators would only work for Falconer as he is sort of the swordsman of the group.
I never said that it could work (probably won't), but I suggested that three massive blades sticking out of a single gauntlet sounds much more menancing than a single scythe-like blade.
2 on both hands (ala AvP 2010) would have been best. No single blade (cept Falconer) or triple blades for me.
Just depends on their tactics and skills. I could pitch Berserker with Dual-Double Blades
I always imagined that the Tracker Predator would have Dual-Double Blades for some reason.
For some reason, I could pitch a Predator movie where the Predator is a scavenger and uses different weapons and objects to make new armour or wristblades. Like an animals rib-cage as breast plates or something.
Sounds a lot like the Ritual Armoured Predator from Predator Concrete Jungle.
Meh, but a neat idea though.
It would be hard to pull that design off in a film though without it appearing cheesy or too fake-looking. However, if it is done right it could work out too look amazing.
I don't think a Predator would use organic material to make its armor. It sounds awesome but it's practically cheeky.
Top left pic:
(https://www.avpgalaxy.net/gallery/albums/movies/avp2/adibook/normal_adibook56.jpg)
NO.
Adam the Predator in Predator Scissorhands, only tomorrow at 10:30 PM in Ridleyscopic 5D.
Mask looks nice
God those people at ADI have NO CLUE whatsoever...
Quote from: Sexy Poot on Oct 08, 2011, 11:04:34 PM
God those people at ADI have NO CLUE whatsoever...
Don't look at them, hate the director for making them do it. Look at Howard Berger and Greg Nicitero. They did a fine job in PREDATORS because Nimrod Antal and Robert Rodriguez didn't have them mess with the Classic predator design and did a good job choosing the "super pred" designs
Frankly if there's anything I don't like its Tom Woodruff. That little comment about Stan Winston he said in the Making of AVP book says hes an asshole to me. ("Thank you Stan for fooling handing over the keys to us!" is what I'm referring to.)
Pretty sure that was in a joking manner.
They don't seem that bad. But their work is amateur compared to Stan Winston Studios or even KNB.
It can be seen that way because they had to follow directions from the directors, both times.
See Tremors to see how they're all but amateur.
Wolf was a better design than the Predatoids in the last film.
Quote from: OmegaZilla on Oct 09, 2011, 05:56:05 PM
It can be seen that way because they had to follow directions from the directors, both times.
See Tremors to see how they're all but amateur.
The design is on the directors, but the materials that ADI used to design the Predators is on themselves. It was their choice to use foam to design the Predator which wound up looking fake-looking.
The AVP 3 Stooges were definitely a bad design.
Quote from: OmegaZilla on Oct 09, 2011, 09:16:16 AM
Pretty sure that was in a joking manner.
I wasn't joking. ADI came up with those designs in the book right? Just look at them. :-\
You know Woodruff worked at Stan Winston Studios before forming ADI right?
Yes. Yes I do. I'm talking about those designs. The concept art. Im diggin at whoever came up with those.
Besides, work for and having the same skills are two completely different things. I can work for Gene Simmons. Doesnt mean ill be a marketing genius.
Quote from: Vecrotus on Oct 09, 2011, 08:57:56 PM
The design is on the directors, but the materials that ADI used to design the Predators is on themselves. It was their choice to use foam to design the Predator which wound up looking fake-looking.
The AvP and AvPR Predators weren't any better -or worse- than the ones KNB made for
Predators.
I personally don't think both were really fake looking. They just weren't as good as the Winston ones.
Quote from: Sexy Poot on Oct 09, 2011, 10:10:49 PM
I wasn't joking. ADI came up with those designs in the book right? Just look at them. :-\
What are you talking about? My post was directed at
Taraka's last sentence.
The designs of the Super Predators weren't bad but could of been better if they had the netting. As for those sketches, they aren't too bad.
Quote from: JokerJohn35 on Oct 10, 2011, 06:17:35 PM
The designs of the Super Predators weren't bad but could of been better if they had the netting. As for those sketches, they aren't too bad.
I don't see how netting could make the designs better, that is a vary small detail that would probably go unnoticed most of the time.
Quote from: OmegaZilla on Oct 10, 2011, 03:13:32 PM
Quote from: Vecrotus on Oct 09, 2011, 08:57:56 PM
The design is on the directors, but the materials that ADI used to design the Predators is on themselves. It was their choice to use foam to design the Predator which wound up looking fake-looking.
The AvP and AvPR Predators weren't any better -or worse- than the ones KNB made for Predators.
I personally don't think both were really fake looking. They just weren't as good as the Winston ones.
Quote from: Sexy Poot on Oct 09, 2011, 10:10:49 PM
I wasn't joking. ADI came up with those designs in the book right? Just look at them. :-\
What are you talking about? My post was directed at Taraka's last sentence.
The ones in Predators were waaaay more better looking. Even if they did stray far from the design everyone wants.
And oops, I thought u were telling him that u thought I was joking.
Simple thing - compare the Classic Predator to Scar, or Wolf. The quality of the skin is more or less along the same lines.
No worries for that.
Quote from: OmegaZilla on Oct 10, 2011, 07:35:51 PM
Simple thing - compare the Classic Predator to Scar, or Wolf. The quality of the skin is more or less along the same lines.
No worries for that.
I donno man. Well have to agree to disagree. AvP looked foamish and Wolf looks like an action figure in all the shots. Only time he looks good and real to me is when hes checking the crashed ship.
Decided to go with Pussyface.
Quote from: OmegaZilla on Oct 10, 2011, 03:13:32 PM
Quote from: Vecrotus on Oct 09, 2011, 08:57:56 PM
The design is on the directors, but the materials that ADI used to design the Predators is on themselves. It was their choice to use foam to design the Predator which wound up looking fake-looking.
The AvP and AvPR Predators weren't any better -or worse- than the ones KNB made for Predators.
I personally don't think both were really fake looking. They just weren't as good as the Winston ones.
The ones in AvP and AVPR looked like action figures. The Berserker Predators looked action figures, especially Mr. Black but the Classic Predator was miles better than anything the AVP movies offered.
The Predators Preds were far too short. Like, puny from what I remember. But at least they were slim and not fat like AvP or anorexic like Requiem.
The guys who played the Super Predators, or Classic for that matter, weren't even 7 ft. AVP Predators just looked like they were on a serious addiction to Steroids whereas Wolf had a bit of an eating disorder.
Like I said.
I think everyone will always find the Stan Winston design as the best, because it's literially the father of the franchise.
If you were to incorporate the Predator 2 design with the technology now available, that would also look fantastic.
Even for the "Lost" predators too!
AVP gave us the pretty nifty armor design, inwhich I'm personally inlove with when it comes to drawing.
I really did hate the bulky appearance though, Paul W. S. Anderson obviously has a testicle for a brain.
AVPR gives you an Elite predator who relies on intelligence and agility insted of your typical brute strength.
The design is something I found to be influenced by all the previous Predators in the franchise.
Predators showed that Predators can look nice without netting, infact I think that was a bonus.
They worked with more flexibility when designing them, obviously just not to differ them from the Classic.
But to show a kind of "Bare" nature. I'm personally led to believe that these are like normal Predators but are mutated by self experiment. Otherwise a whole new species would be f**king retarded. But that's off topic.
All in all, I like them all for their uniqueness. I'd love to see Predator 2 with the current technology.
I liked wolf design also the classic one, didn't like scar in avp
Quote from: JokerJohn35 on Oct 14, 2011, 04:53:55 PM
Wolf had a bit of an eating disorder.
Makes him easier to hug for the fangirls, we can get our arms round him :3
*runs out of thread*
Ha ha ha! As long as he doesen't squash you with his hug!
Quote from: Sabretooth on Oct 15, 2011, 12:28:36 AM
AVP gave us the pretty nifty armor design, inwhich I'm personally inlove with when it comes to drawing.
I really did hate the bulky appearance though, Paul W. S. Anderson obviously has a testicle for a brain.
In Anderson's defense, he took the design & made a film around pre-existing comics. It's understandable how Predator fans disagree with making a comic book movie out of the franchise, just have to seperate the two somehow. In comparison to the comics though, Anderson was right on the money with the design.
Maybe so, but the design dosen't seem as classic as Anytime or Pussyface, even the Lost Predators.
Quote from: JokerJohn35 on Oct 21, 2011, 12:19:30 PM
Maybe so, but the design dosen't seem as classic as Anytime or Pussyface, even the Lost Predators.
No, they are not. The are "comic book" Predators. A franchise of their own lol.
I really liked all of the predator designs, the Ancient predators in both Predator 2 and AVP particularly looked really cool, all of the predators that is EXCEPT Mr Black who i absolutely hated the design of. That big jawbone just looked idiotic in my opinion. I hated that design almost as much as the human/alien hybrid in Alien Resurrection.
If I had to pick a favourite it would have to be the Predator from Predator 2, with his overall look and weaponry.
However, minus the mask the 'regular' predator in 'Predators' looked superb and I think the most 'real' and 'believable' as an actual lifeform (unmasked) of them all.
Am I the only one who though Mr B's mask looked really fake?
Quote from: DJ Pu$$yface on Nov 02, 2011, 08:20:34 AM
Am I the only one who though Mr B's mask looked really fake?
Nope....me too
Lamest Predator design in the history of the franchise
That stupid big jawbone at the bottom of the mask.....and those teeth - just stupid !!!
I thought Mr. Black's design was pretty cool, if anything, I liked his skin the best. Mask was alright but the Jawbone was maybe a bit too big. Still neat though.
Big red the samurai pred from "batman dead end" ( on you tube )
Quote from: JokerJohn35 on Nov 02, 2011, 08:07:45 PM
I thought Mr. Black's design was pretty cool, if anything, I liked his skin the best. Mask was alright but the Jawbone was maybe a bit too big. Still neat though.
Mr Blacks mask looked like something youd pick up from a cheap Halloween fancy dress store, and when he took off the mask he looked like Tony Harrison from UK TV's 'the Mighty Boosh'
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nYNiQbMd-aM# (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nYNiQbMd-aM#)
Quote from: JokerJohn35 on Nov 02, 2011, 08:07:45 PM
I thought Mr. Black's design was pretty cool, if anything, I liked his skin the best. Mask was alright but the Jawbone was maybe a bit too big. Still neat though.
Maybe he took predator preformance enhancers ;D Side affects giant mandabiles and agressive behaviour :laugh:.
I always saw Mr Black and Tracker's masks as a cheap rip off the original. Yeah just put a bone or two on it and it will be right. Why couldn't they get ideas from the comic books or think of something original.
I liked the idea of adding trophies to their armour and masks. But I think it could of been better, Tracker's mask was pretty decent.
Quote from: Terx2 on Nov 07, 2011, 05:18:03 AM
Quote from: JokerJohn35 on Nov 02, 2011, 08:07:45 PM
I thought Mr. Black's design was pretty cool, if anything, I liked his skin the best. Mask was alright but the Jawbone was maybe a bit too big. Still neat though.
Maybe he took predator preformance enhancers ;D Side affects giant mandabiles and agressive behaviour :laugh:.
I always saw Mr Black and Tracker's masks as a cheap rip off the original. Yeah just put a bone or two on it and it will be right. Why couldn't they get ideas from the comic books or think of something original.
I do believe it's been quoted many times that the filmmakers "took no influence from the comics or the sequels hur hur hur." They weren't trying to create something original, they were creating a 100-minute advertisement for the Blu-Ray re-release of
Predator and for any future films in the franchise. ;)
Having said that, I have to say I rather like Berserker and Tracker's masks. Berserker's in particular looks great, and gives a truly evil/nasty vibe to it.
I thought the look of the new Predators was very good. i didn't like Black's mask at first but the Alien (Xeno) jawbone is actually kind of cool and yet evil looking. I mean you are wearing part of your kill!
Tracker's mask was great and probably my favorite of the three. The "cheek" areas are sweet looking and the battle damage around the left eye looks cool. Maybe even from battles with Xenos.
Quote from: Lost Predator on Nov 09, 2011, 10:14:24 PM
I thought the look of the new Predators was very good. i didn't like Black's mask at first but the Alien (Xeno) jawbone is actually kind of cool and yet evil looking. I mean you are wearing part of your kill!
Tracker's mask was great and probably my favorite of the three. The "cheek" areas are sweet looking and the battle damage around the left eye looks cool. Maybe even from battles with Xenos.
The movie never said it was an Alien's jawbone.
Quote from: The Xenoborg on Nov 10, 2011, 07:36:41 AM
Quote from: Lost Predator on Nov 09, 2011, 10:14:24 PM
I thought the look of the new Predators was very good. i didn't like Black's mask at first but the Alien (Xeno) jawbone is actually kind of cool and yet evil looking. I mean you are wearing part of your kill!
Tracker's mask was great and probably my favorite of the three. The "cheek" areas are sweet looking and the battle damage around the left eye looks cool. Maybe even from battles with Xenos.
The movie never said it was an Alien's jawbone.
The Trivia section AVP Galaxy and Nimród Antal did however:
•According to director Nimród Antal, the lower jaw attached to the mask of the Berzerker Predator is that of an alien from the Alien movie series.
Its false information.
If Berserker's mask jawbone is supposed to be from an Alien, only possibility is a Queen.
Quote from: JokerJohn35 on Nov 10, 2011, 06:44:32 PM
If Berserker's mask jawbone is supposed to be from an Alien, only possibility is a Queen.
How.
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And
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That lower jaw bone looks nothing like a Xeno's.
That lower jaw-bone resembles the jaw-bone of a Predator.
Since Xenos have small jaws and the Queen's being a lot larger, saying, if it would come from any type of Xeno, only a queen, or a Predalien Queen, just supposing. Looks a little bit like a jaw from some kind of Ungulate.
It didn't come from a Queen because Queens don't have teeth like that.
No Aliens have teeth like that.
It's just false data. I've yet to see where Antal stated that.
I heard that Robert Rodriguez said that it was the jaw bone of a chest-burster.
Doubt that's true in the slightest.
If it's true, though, that certainly lines up with some of the worst Strause Bros. quotes.
I was kidding. I should have said facehugger, instead. :P
Im not saying it came from A Queen, Im saying if it could came from any Alien in the slightest that we know, it's a Queen. But like I also said, could just be a different animal that it hunted.
IF this in fact an xeno jaw bone, people shouldn't be fooled due to the width of it as the Black could've widened it to fit the mask.
But those teeth don't look like those of a Xenomorph.
If you look at a skull of a Predator, the jaw-bone would resemble the thing on Mr. Black's mask.
I think the above conversation is proof people take things waaay too seriously :/
Personally I couldn't care less what kind of jawbone it is, it's just an awesome thing that shows Mr Black knows how to accessorise his outfit properly. Which is rare, for a creature that has likely never picked up a copy of Harper's Bazaar in his life :laugh:
For me its a threeway tie between Anytime, Pussyface, and Wolf with their masks on, but Anytime takes it with the mask off.
I didn't like the AVP Preds either way.
It does look like it came from a humanoid creature, based on its shape.
Quote from: OmegaZilla on Nov 10, 2011, 07:15:02 PM
Quote from: JokerJohn35 on Nov 10, 2011, 06:44:32 PM
If Berserker's mask jawbone is supposed to be from an Alien, only possibility is a Queen.
How.
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And
http://i848.photobucket.com/albums/ab43/OmegaZilla95/Alien%20and%20Predator/Aliens/Alienqueenteeth.jpg
to me it looks like Mr Black killed an oversized Shih tzu dog and then stuck its lower jawbone on his mask
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Quote from: JKS1 on Nov 15, 2011, 04:24:30 AM
Quote from: OmegaZilla on Nov 10, 2011, 07:15:02 PM
Quote from: JokerJohn35 on Nov 10, 2011, 06:44:32 PM
If Berserker's mask jawbone is supposed to be from an Alien, only possibility is a Queen.
How.
(https://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi848.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fab43%2FOmegaZilla95%2FAlien%2520and%2520Predator%2FPredators%2FBlackpred3.jpg&hash=00475d7aa658f16799de8999146bfdc83f657d12)
And
http://i848.photobucket.com/albums/ab43/OmegaZilla95/Alien%20and%20Predator/Aliens/Alienqueenteeth.jpg
to me it looks like Mr Black killed an oversized Shih tzu dog and then stuck its lower jawbone on his mask
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HAHAHAHAHA! :laugh:
City Hunter all the way!
Hi-5!
I liked P1 the most, classic design. AVPR runner up, followed by P2.
I loved the Celtic design so I went with AvP but the design in Predator is a close second.
Quote from: Eidotemit on Feb 04, 2007, 07:40:48 PM
Id go for the P2 design, just cause it was a bit darker and malevolent.
I agree.
I like the first movie and the second one,Wolf is cool and i like the Elders alot too.
1. Original Predator
2. Predator 2 and Predator Elder are a tie for me. P2 for originality. P2E for variation on a theme.
3. Super Predators and Wolf are all in the same boat for me.
The other Predators are simply ridiculous mascots for some sports team. The Huston Predators or something.
Quote from: Bat Chain Puller on Jan 02, 2012, 05:22:35 PM
1. Original Predator
2. Predator 2 and Predator Elder are a tie for me. P2 for originality. P2E for variation on a theme.
3. Super Predators and Wolf are all in the same boat for me.
The other Predators are simply ridiculous mascots for some sports team. The Huston Predators or something.
What do you think to the lost predators in the end of Predator 2?
Quote from: mrdecepticonleader on Jan 02, 2012, 05:27:58 PM
Quote from: Bat Chain Puller on Jan 02, 2012, 05:22:35 PM
1. Original Predator
2. Predator 2 and Predator Elder are a tie for me. P2 for originality. P2E for variation on a theme.
3. Super Predators and Wolf are all in the same boat for me.
The other Predators are simply ridiculous mascots for some sports team. The Huston Predators or something.
What do you think to the lost predators in the end of Predator 2?
Well ... they pinnacle of their design was Elder. Clearly the most amount of effort went into him. The others just seemed to be more simplistic variations of the original and P2 suit. Likely slightly modified stunt and prototype suits. So a waffle on where to put them in my roster. Better than the Charlie Brown AVP Preds, but not as original as the Super Preds and Wolf.
So ... 3.1 The Lost Predators. ;D
It would have been SO cool if they were the Predator stars of AVP instead of what we got. The scar role going to Elder. (And without the Predator forgetting how facehuggers work.)
I agree the Elder Predator looked fierce.
What was up with Scar's eyes?! They were... human! :o
1. Elder from P2.
2. Anytime.
3. Pussyface.
4. Anytime 2.
5. Mr Black.
Quote from: CyberDemon13 on Jan 03, 2012, 09:33:28 PM
What was up with Scar's eyes?! They were... human! :o
Thats what Anderson wanted unfortunately... No contacts to make him look more "heroic."
My fav is P2 in design and the predators amour in AvP but P2 is #1 for me ;D
1.) Anytime
2.) Mr.Black
3.) City Hunter
4.) Wolf
5.) Celtic
I liked the wolf design the best, Just because he actually looked alot scarier than anyother predator except for the pred in the 2 movie is a close second,
Anytime
Wolf
Mr. Black
Celtic
Quote from: Sexy Poot on Jan 04, 2012, 01:02:21 AM
Thats what Anderson wanted unfortunately... No contacts to make him look more "heroic."
Contacts
were used.
"After the first little bit of disgust, you can see intelligence in his eyes."
"His eyes were based on a predatory cat's, and imbued with warm golden tones and a slightly larger iris."
"Warm golden tones"?
*facepalm*
I would have to go with P1 but the super predator design is growing on me hopefully we get to see more of them in future movies.
The predator in the first one was best for me
Classic jungle hunter from the first film
and P2 city hunter.
When you have the Hot Toys Berserker figure, you appreciate the design a whole lot more.
I like the Berserkers Bio,he had one of the best looking ones I think.
Here are my top three Predator helmet design's.....all are full scale and unique in design, hope you like them......
Those are certainly unique :-\
I love the City Hunter, i think he looks really awesome! I really like Celtics bio mask because it is very unique and just looked very cool. Wolf was bad ass and his bio mask was very cool and his dual plasma casters and face just all looked awesome. I also think that Berserkers and Trackers bio masks looked amazing! All in all i can't choose a favorite.
Quote from: AVPfan7662 on Apr 21, 2012, 11:39:07 PM
Here are my top three Predator helmet design's.....all are full scale and unique in design, hope you like them......
You made them? Pretty nice job. I like "Savage".
I love the City Hunter design.
One of the coolest.
The Jungle Hunter will always be my favorite one.ç
He's so amazing. He doesn't need that much of armor/weapons to be bad ass.
The coolest part of him is his Mask. So mysterius. And Simple
Quote from: AVPfan7662 on Apr 21, 2012, 11:39:07 PM
Here are my top three Predator helmet design's.....all are full scale and unique in design, hope you like them......
Can so imagine these 3 Preds in AVP 3...
Predator 2 design was the best of them all in my opinion. Bad ass mask, and armor.
Quote from: Lionhart on May 30, 2012, 06:43:57 PM
Predator 2 design was the best of them all in my opinion. Bad ass mask, and armor.
And a bad ass Pussy face ;D
Quote from: Bat Chain Puller on Jan 02, 2012, 05:43:55 PM
Quote from: mrdecepticonleader on Jan 02, 2012, 05:27:58 PM
Quote from: Bat Chain Puller on Jan 02, 2012, 05:22:35 PM
1. Original Predator
2. Predator 2 and Predator Elder are a tie for me. P2 for originality. P2E for variation on a theme.
3. Super Predators and Wolf are all in the same boat for me.
The other Predators are simply ridiculous mascots for some sports team. The Huston Predators or something.
What do you think to the lost predators in the end of Predator 2?
Well ... they pinnacle of their design was Elder. Clearly the most amount of effort went into him. The others just seemed to be more simplistic variations of the original and P2 suit. Likely slightly modified stunt and prototype suits. So a waffle on where to put them in my roster. Better than the Charlie Brown AVP Preds, but not as original as the Super Preds and Wolf.
So ... 3.1 The Lost Predators. ;D
It would have been SO cool if they were the Predator stars of AVP instead of what we got. The scar role going to Elder. (And without the Predator forgetting how facehuggers work.)
I agree that sounds like a much better idea than what we where given in AVP.
Quote from: gigantitan on May 31, 2012, 01:29:09 AM
Quote from: Lionhart on May 30, 2012, 06:43:57 PM
Predator 2 design was the best of them all in my opinion. Bad ass mask, and armor.
And a bad ass Pussy face ;D
Got that right:)
Wolf.
They made him look scary.
Win.
I really liked the look of the berserker predators. Especially Mr. Black
They should've looked...I dunno, better, those super Preds. Predator: Bad Blood had great looking evil Predators that didn't look zombie rejects.
Quote from: DoomRulz on Jun 15, 2012, 11:34:49 PM
They should've looked...I dunno, better, those super Preds. Predator: Bad Blood had great looking evil Predators that didn't look zombie rejects.
did you also notice they have no mesh tops so how they used full body camo i don't know....
P1 was an almost perfect design.
P2 made it darker and more badass.
So P2. Screw the rest.
(besides P1 of course)
The other designs ranged from decent to alright but you really can't compare to the first.
I think it's fair to vote for Predator 2 because all of the Predator designs were awesome, I especially like City Hunter's. Darker and more menacing than Anytime.
Yeah I agree. The only thing I didn't like is (if i'm not confusing it with something else" was the upturned lower portion, where his jaws would be. It looks kinda weird to me.
Of the mask? I thought the mask looked cool, had that strange urban feel.
I'm actually confusing it with the Wolf from AVPR. But yeah, the P2 was darker and a little more retro/urban, whatever you wanna call it.
i like the Berserker predator design its kool the mask and the xenomorph skull on his mask
People still think thats an alien jaw bone?
Doesn't even look xeno. It's too wide. But I do like the fact that the Berserkers wear trophies on their masks. Very cool.
It's not a Xeno jaw. It's too wide, the teeth are too small, and they line up perfectly. Alien teeth look pretty well-disjointed.
I know I was just wondering how people could confuse that with a xenomorph jaw. But if people are still this confused, and especially with the AVP, they should have made it look totally different. Although in my opinion there was no resemblance in the first place.
Aliens have humanoid incisors... Should be enough for anyone to recognize that jaw as something else.
Quote from: OmegaZilla on Jun 26, 2012, 05:35:22 PM
Aliens have humanoid incisors... Should be enough for anyone to recognize that jaw as something else.
Agreed.
I think the best bio mask belongs to Celtic, because it looks like nothing before it. Falconer's looks great as well.
Nothing before it? What about Gort?
Quote from: JokerJohn35 on Jun 28, 2012, 10:03:32 PM
Nothing before it? What about Gort?
Gort's mask is very close to Celtics but they have small differences. Its been suggested that the two hunters are family also x]
I honestly have never heard about that.
Well i never said it was True, Its just been suggested.
Ive never heard it suggested. AND I HEAR EVERYTHINGGGGGG.
I always liked the sililarities between Gort and Celtic.
Gort looks too much like a messed up pig. Celtic looks like a stone-cold killer.
The overall appearence might sugges similarities, but the moment you look at them both for more than one second they're vastly different.
Quote from: DoomRulz on Jul 02, 2012, 04:39:23 AM
Gort looks too much like a messed up pig. Celtic looks like a stone-cold killer.
Hell yeah dude. Celtic was friggin awesome.
I quite liked Celtic's mask. It was a neat reference to the original Stan Winston Predator mask that never got used.
As much as I like all of them, I would have to say Mr. Black's design is best, followed closely by classic Pred.
Anytime is my favourite.
Pussyface was cool too.
Anytime and Pussyface are the best Predator designs. But if I had to chose, I'd say Anytime takes the cake.
The original desing is my favorite
Original is by far the best.
The city hunter and the falconer were my favorite.
Broken Tusk Dachan'De
but if we cant do comics, i have to say Wolf. Really cool Design, too bad it wasn't utilized well.
I chose the Predator from the first movie, he had character and come on you cant beat a classic! Besides The predator from Predator 2 looked to much like he had a crab on his face lol. Predator 1 all the way!!!!!!
They're all pretty awesome, but the Celtic is at the top of my list.
The original, by far, with and without the mask. To be honest, I never quite liked any other mask designs
Quote from: Vecrotus on Aug 03, 2012, 03:39:19 PM
I quite liked Celtic's mask. It was a neat reference to the original Stan Winston Predator mask that never got used.
Never?
Quote from: huntin8-t0n on Feb 21, 2013, 09:30:50 AM
Quote from: Vecrotus on Aug 03, 2012, 03:39:19 PM
I quite liked Celtic's mask. It was a neat reference to the original Stan Winston Predator mask that never got used.
Never?
The fact you've posted this makes it all the cooler. :laugh:
Quote from: OmegaZilla on Feb 21, 2013, 01:02:53 PM
Quote from: huntin8-t0n on Feb 21, 2013, 09:30:50 AM
Quote from: Vecrotus on Aug 03, 2012, 03:39:19 PM
I quite liked Celtic's mask. It was a neat reference to the original Stan Winston Predator mask that never got used.
Never?
The fact you've posted this makes it all the cooler. :laugh:
I've just reaéized that :D
There are alot of excellent Predator designs out there for sure, but I've gotta say mine is a solid tie between Pussy Face and Greyback Elder. Always wished we'd seen Elder more, maybe gave him his own movie or something. Really wish Neca's Elder wasn't such crap.
I rewatched P2 last night and I'd forgotten how good Elder looked. He aactually had the best design in the film IMO.
He looked like a Pirate Predator IMO. Had a saber, fancy earing type jewelry and a skull with like a bead-filled bead on his belt. Just really wish that much work was put into some of the other Predators. One of the huge letdowns of Predators was the weak designs(Not that the movie would have been any better had the designs been cooler) they looked so boring and simple. And they were the 'Supers', you'd think they'd dawn their trophies proudly.
At least the masks were noticeably different. They sold them though on their facial design though more than anything; not that that helped.
There are so many great designs for predators, it's hard for me to choose a favorite but if I had to, (I feel so dirty posting this) I'd have to go with the Berzerker predator. Mr. Black or whatever it's known as. It's by far the most menacing in my opinion. The lower jaw on the mask makes him look mean and nasty.
Celtic and the Falconer also are some favorites of mine, but the original one/classic and scar are so great as well... but then I can't ignore the city hunter and Wolf. They're all so great.
The only predator I really didn't like from the movies was Chopper. Other notable Predators from other pieces of work that I disliked were Big Red and the ancestral mask from the 2010 avp game
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I like the P2 and Wolf design, the berserkers were cool too and I think the idea of elite predators killing the other predators is interesting, but Its kinda weird to have different species of predators.
City Hunter, Mr. Black, Falconer- the mask is awesome. LongSpear and the Dark Blade Clan skin- from Concrete Jungle. The Arbitrator- from the Bad Blood comic. And last, but not least, Broken Tusk. :)
EDIT: Classic Elder from Predator 2. Thanks, AliceApocalypse, for jogging my dusty memory!
I guess I'm the one of the few who really liked the Predators design. :(
Quote from: PVTDukeMorrison on Apr 27, 2013, 03:22:10 AM
I guess I'm the one of the few who really liked the Predators design. :(
Keep in mind that we are allowed to vote only once which means people like Predators design but prefer others.
I actually really liked the falconer and mr. black. More aggressive looking imo. Tracker not so much but w/e.
Quote from: Mr. Runner on Apr 27, 2013, 02:40:27 AM
City Hunter, Mr. Black, Falconer- the mask is awesome. LongSpear and the Dark Blade Clan skin- from Concrete Jungle. The Arbitrator- from the Bad Blood comic. And last, but not least, Broken Tusk. :)
From the comics Broken Tusk for sure :) From the films it's the Elder from P2.
Correction, this Broken Tusk is my absolute favorite: http://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/index.php?topic=41993.0 (http://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/index.php?topic=41993.0)
I don't know, but I think that the original movie presented also the best custom special effects, regarding the predator makeup. The mandible movements, colors and facial expressions were the best done so far.
Quote from: AliceApocalypse on May 08, 2013, 05:30:49 PM
From the comics Broken Tusk for sure :) From the films it's the Elder from P2.
Correction, this Broken Tusk is my absolute favorite: http://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/index.php?topic=41993.0 (http://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/index.php?topic=41993.0)
OMFG, I just looked at that comic- why wasn't that in the real comics?! :o
P2 Elder? How the heck could I forget him?!
Quote from: Mr. Runner on May 09, 2013, 01:27:13 AM
Quote from: AliceApocalypse on May 08, 2013, 05:30:49 PM
From the comics Broken Tusk for sure :) From the films it's the Elder from P2.
Correction, this Broken Tusk is my absolute favorite: http://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/index.php?topic=41993.0 (http://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/index.php?topic=41993.0)
OMFG, I just looked at that comic- why wasn't that in the real comics?! :o
P2 Elder? How the heck could I forget him?!
We need to give that guy a section here to give us more of his work!
Although I am quite fascinated with the P2 Elder, I am on the fence with any one putting him in another film in case it isn't done right.
I'm gonna have to go with Predators,believe me I love the original design,I just preferred how they made Classic's face sculpt,it just looks like it has a great balance between ugly and intimidating...in my opinion...
Anytime and Mr. Black :P
Any of them apart from the ones in Alien vs. Predator (the first film). They looked terrible. Fat, bulky and not at all like the agile hunters they're supposed to be.
If I had to pick a favourite though... Probably the City Hunter. I liked how he looked really different to the first yet was still obviously the same creature. Greyback (the elder at the end of the film) was pretty good too, definitely way better than his short screentime dictated. And as much as I hated the film overall, I really liked the look of Wolf from Requiem.
Wolf looked pretty good but he could've used a few protein shakes, haha. He was a skinny guy.
Quote from: DoomRulz on Nov 29, 2013, 01:40:16 PM
Wolf looked pretty good but he could've used a few protein shakes, haha.
So he can increase his Attack stat?
Quote from: DoomRulz on Nov 29, 2013, 01:40:16 PM
Wolf looked pretty good but he could've used a few protein shakes, haha. He was a skinny guy.
I want to see an over weight Predator now.
Quote from: Requiem28 on Nov 30, 2013, 01:56:33 AM
Quote from: DoomRulz on Nov 29, 2013, 01:40:16 PM
Wolf looked pretty good but he could've used a few protein shakes, haha. He was a skinny guy.
I want to see an over weight Predator now.
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Quote from: Omegazilla on Nov 29, 2013, 08:48:48 PM
Quote from: DoomRulz on Nov 29, 2013, 01:40:16 PM
Wolf looked pretty good but he could've used a few protein shakes, haha.
So he can increase his Attack stat?
Um...sure?
Celtic and Wolf!
Quote from: Requiem28 on Nov 30, 2013, 01:56:33 AM
Quote from: DoomRulz on Nov 29, 2013, 01:40:16 PM
Wolf looked pretty good but he could've used a few protein shakes, haha. He was a skinny guy.
I want to see an over weight Predator now.
Here You go,my lines,not mine character
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I know I tend to draw Predators with a lot of muscle mass, but Wolf was kinda too skinny in my opinion to be able to lift 2 adult aliens/one per arm,just sayng.
AvP 2010 ancient mask was one of the most terrible predator masks ever created-it was as lame as choppers.
There are soo great designs-anytime,and pussyface-classic masks,really simple,yet badass looking-celtic,more complex,also badass looking-it is too hard to pick one "the most badass" for me.
I fricking love this design-bone predator/hunter-by Mike Loh
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City Hunter
i voted for the original Jungle Hunter. I like the City Hunter design a bit, the helmet was pretty cool, not so much a fan of the face. However, I think more than Jungle Hunter, I really liked Scout and Guardian from the end of Predator 2. I liked Scout's mix of Jungle Hunter with his helmet, and City Hunter with his armor and skin colorations. And Guardian's helmet is just so rad.
And as for PREDATORS, initially I hated every design for the Super Predators. As I watched the movie, Mr. Black grew on me until he took his helmet off and I saw the bastardization they did to his design. It's one thing to try and differentiate this new group from the classics we know and love but that was a bit much. Especially coming off of the travesty that was AVP/AVP:R, without his helmet Wolf looked like trash, as did Scar and Elder. The Classic in PREDATORS wasn't too bad, but like with AVP, his helmet wasn't long enough in the mouth area (his mandibles were jutting out of the bottom of his helmet, as were Scar's if I recall), and his helmet was too wide at the back of the jaw. . From the first PREDATORS trailer, I hated the Falconer helmet. However in recent months he's grown on me, and now Falconer's helmet design has grown on me, more so than Mr. Black's.
Quote from: HuDaFuK on Nov 29, 2013, 11:27:34 AM
Any of them apart from the ones in Alien vs. Predator (the first film). They looked terrible. Fat, bulky and not at all like the agile hunters they're supposed to be.
They knew that Predators have super-human strength , so they made them bulky with a lot of muscles . :-X
The Jungle Predator is my favorite design, I loved seeing the Crucified Jungle Predator seeing it made via modern tech was great.
-Lumberjack1988
The original design was quite stunning, quite suitable for that environment and pulling of an alien, exotic look. Myself, I enjoy the individuality of the Predator race and there is something to like within each design. But the "Wolf" design had a really vicious look to it while still maintaining that exotic feel, so I will choose that design.
i will go with the super predators design they look very cool.
Definitely Elder from Predator 2 and Wolf.
The City Hunter is my personal favourite.
Does anyone out there like the 2010 Classic Predator more than the 1987 Classic Predator. For some reason, I do. I think mainly due to the more prominent dreadlocks, longer length, increased sized, the head shape too. It's only slightly different, but the slight changes make it one of my favorite Predator designs.
Not saying I no longer like the 87 Pred though. :laugh:
I think he means Crucified.
Quote from: The Shuriken on Jan 06, 2015, 12:22:48 AMDoes anyone out there like the 2010 Classic Predator more than the 1987 Classic Predator.
It looked nice, but it had no... 'personality', for want of a better word. It felt like an excuse to put the old design in the film (probably was) rather than a character. The same could be said of a lot of the things in
Predators.
Poor Classic had Lockjaw.
Crucified looks pretty good with his mask
Jungle Hunter's face still blows Crucified's face away
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Now that I look again, Crucified looks really rubbery too. The original looked way better, much more scaly and reptilian.
Quote from: Omegazilla on Jan 06, 2015, 08:42:49 AM
Poor Classic had Lockjaw.
Haha. And he still looked better than the rubbish ADI churns out to this day.
Quote from: DoomRulz on Jan 06, 2015, 12:35:35 PMHaha. And he still looked better than the rubbish ADI churns out to this day.
I have respect for ADI. Their stuff for the
Thing prequel was awesome. Too bad the director then decided to replace all of their hard work with shit CGI.
I meant with the Alien and Predator franchises. The Dog Alien looked good but the rest were awful.
Quote from: DoomRulz on Jan 06, 2015, 01:31:35 PMI meant with the Alien and Predator franchises. The Dog Alien looked good but the rest were awful.
Fair point!
Quote from: HuDaFuK on Jan 06, 2015, 09:49:35 AM
Now that I look again, Crucified looks really rubbery too. The original looked way better, much more scaly and reptilian.
It looked very rubbery especially on the big screen.
Quote from: happypred on Jan 06, 2015, 09:44:54 AM
Crucified looks pretty good with his mask
Jungle Hunter's face still blows Crucified's face away
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Man they really look nothing alike when posted next to each other. I had always thought they looked the same, just with Crucified having longer dreads, but there are a lot of differences. Crucified is pretty much an entirely new design, rather than a homage to the original. Still, I like it alot. Way better than Berserker. Swept back dreads, bleh.
Quote from: DoomRulz on Jan 06, 2015, 12:35:35 PM
Haha. And he still looked better than the rubbish ADI churns out to this day.
Wolf looks great with his mask on
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He looks great with the mask off as well. At least in the movie with all the added textures and milky white eye.
Quote from: happypred on Jan 08, 2015, 04:03:11 AM
Quote from: DoomRulz on Jan 06, 2015, 12:35:35 PM
Haha. And he still looked better than the rubbish ADI churns out to this day.
Wolf looks great with his mask on
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Yeah, with the mask on. Off? not as much.
What didn't ya like about his face design?
Too thick and side placed mandibles makes him another predator that can't close his face right, like P1 & P2 predators did.
Quote from: The Shuriken on Jan 09, 2015, 04:46:16 AM
What didn't ya like about his face design?
Yeah, the mandibles opened up too wide. Like Scar's.
Hm, that never bothered me, but I see your point.
Ugh, Wolf always looked awkward.
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I hate the way his upper lip rests on his gums.
And his mask, body and armor always looked particularly fake to me. One could argue it's the well-lit nature of some photographs but previous suits managed to look much better in bright lighting.
I don't get why his blind eye wasn't made that way and had to be digitally altered.
The benefit of Ian White, maybe?
Art of godmachine.co.uk:
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I like the design of the first predator the best, City Hunter comes second, the the super preds next and as I much I dislike Requiem, Wolf had some good designs, I like Crucified's mask which was a scarred and broken Jungle Hunter mask but Crucified himself didn't look as good as the first Jungle Hunter.
I like the super predator Design they did a good job on the mask and the teeth makes it look awesome.
I must admit I did quite like the Berserker as well. I also thought they did a good job at replicating Classic too.
Out of the Überpredz, Falconer was my dude, his mask was amazing. Plus his duel with Hanzo was probably the best bit of the film, even if it built to a huge anticlimax.
Wasn't a fan of the classic in the film though. He looked like he was made of rubber (which obviously he was, but you never got that impression in the first two films).
I never felt that way. I always thought he had that same life-likeness to him. Far more so than any of the ADI efforts.
The first two are by far the most life-like. I think the four from Predators (which I did like the designs of) would have stacked up better against them if they had better mouth/mandible articulation.
It's utterly incredible how undated the effects are for the originals. There are certain animatronic or practical effects that stand the test of time - but look sculpted. The predators of the first and second film are just so lifelike.
Quote from: MrSpaceJockey on Feb 07, 2015, 01:46:40 AM
It's utterly incredible how undated the effects are for the originals. There are certain animatronic or practical effects that stand the test of time - but look sculpted. The predators of the first and second film are just so lifelike.
Absolutely. You often say that a specific effect looks real and everything -- but the Predators from movie 1 and 2 really do. There is a raw organic quality about them.
Pretty much everything Winston did still looks amazing. From The Terminator to Aliens to The Monster Squad to Predator to The Thing.
Except maybe Leviathan. The final monster in that really does look kinda crap...
I am still impressed with the first predator even to this day, it looked so real and scary, I laughed when Anderson was talking about how it looked like a guy in a suit when his were more rubber looking and ridicules, and those human eyes :P :laugh:
Quote from: The Cruentus on Feb 08, 2015, 03:23:56 PM
I am still impressed with the first predator even to this day, it looked so real and scary, I laughed when Anderson was talking about how it looked like a guy in a suit when his were more rubber looking and ridicules, and those human eyes :P :laugh:
this idiot who casts his wife in every movie he directs has said that Anytime looked like a man in a rubber suit... i wanted to kick anderson in the balls, but now- i want to rip them and feed them to him.
Anytime/Pussyface are number one on my list, second probably Wolf...i dont have third place, well not from movies.
Quote from: Bender1988 on Feb 08, 2015, 06:32:33 PMthis idiot who casts his wife in every movie he directs has said that Anytime looked like a man in a rubber suit...
So ironic when the Predators in his film are hands-down the worst seem on film.
Indeed. Both AvP and AvPR's Predator faces look terrible. No moisture. And that skin is just so terrible looking. What material did they use?
Latex for AvP, silicone for AvPR. Problem is they were not moisturized (key part for the originals).
Not to mention they had mouths designed to open wide enough for 1000 cocks in one go.
I can't choose between Jungle and City Hunter. There are parts of other Pred designs I dig, but Winston somehow really captured the essence of the creature and none of the others quite match up overall in quality and design to those originals.
I dig Wolf and Berserker big time too as honorable mentions, but the original two, particularly mask-less, still look better. The AvP Preds always irked me, way too bulky, they lose the essence of the originsl hunter look and obviously mask less, Scsr looked EPICLY awful. The only thing I really like about AvP appearance wise is Scsrs mask but only because it resembles Anytime.
The first two just own. Doubt they'll ever be topped, though Wolf comes close to being in that category too
I always liked the Spartan skin in AVP2010 The mask is cool but not as flashy as some others. in the movies I liked how mobile Wolf was. He seemed more like the Yautja in the good comics. I'm working on a custom for comacon I started with the cheesy berserker set you can get from amazon and upgraded it since then. I will post a pic of it when I wore it for Halloween. with a details of my ideas behind it.
thought I'd just share this....bts from the PREDATORS designs...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1leu6UPHstI (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1leu6UPHstI)
P2 was the most unique and best for me.
Quote from: THE CITY HUNTER on Dec 10, 2015, 05:39:16 PM
P2 was the most unique and best for me.
How can P2 be the most unique when it was made after P1, and P1 was made out of nowhere, so by definition, P1 is the unique one
Quote from: overthere on Dec 10, 2015, 06:01:17 PM
Quote from: THE CITY HUNTER on Dec 10, 2015, 05:39:16 PM
P2 was the most unique and best for me.
How can P2 be the most unique when it was made after P1, and P1 was made out of nowhere, so by definition, P1 is the unique one
True but the other predator/AVP movies copied their designs predator 2,the colour the look of it felt different.
I have a problem with the facial expressions Predator in P2 shows. They seem over the top cartoonish.
Quote from: overthere on Dec 11, 2015, 07:39:01 PM
I have a problem with the facial expressions Predator in P2 shows. They seem over the top cartoonish.
Shit happens ;D
Are the eyes of the Predator in the original just Kevin Peter Hall's eyes?
Quote from: overthere on Dec 11, 2015, 07:50:05 PM
Are the eyes of the Predator in the original just Kevin Peter Hall's eyes?
No he could not see because of the mask.
Quote from: overthere on Dec 10, 2015, 06:01:17 PMHow can P2 be the most unique when it was made after P1, and P1 was made out of nowhere, so by definition, P1 is the unique one
I think I see what he means. A lot of the Predators we've seen, especially in the EU, have simply copied the first film's look, but the City Hunter was quite different and has never really been duplicated.
Quote from: overthere on Dec 11, 2015, 07:50:05 PMAre the eyes of the Predator in the original just Kevin Peter Hall's eyes?
When the mask is off, yes, they're Hall's eyes with special contact lenses applied.
Quote from: HuDaFuK on Dec 14, 2015, 09:02:31 AM
Quote from: overthere on Dec 10, 2015, 06:01:17 PMHow can P2 be the most unique when it was made after P1, and P1 was made out of nowhere, so by definition, P1 is the unique one
I think I see what he means. A lot of the Predators we've seen, especially in the EU, have simply copied the first film's look, but the City Hunter was quite different and has never really been duplicated.
Quote from: overthere on Dec 11, 2015, 07:50:05 PMAre the eyes of the Predator in the original just Kevin Peter Hall's eyes?
When the mask is off, yes, they're Hall's eyes with special contact lenses applied.
I thing Wolf appears to be more based on p2 with the ridges and extra teeth.
Quote from: HuDaFuK on Dec 14, 2015, 09:02:31 AM
Quote from: overthere on Dec 10, 2015, 06:01:17 PMHow can P2 be the most unique when it was made after P1, and P1 was made out of nowhere, so by definition, P1 is the unique one
I think I see what he means. A lot of the Predators we've seen, especially in the EU, have simply copied the first film's look, but the City Hunter was quite different and has never really been duplicated.
Predator: Bad Blood featured a Predator based on the City Hunter.
Jungle Pred fan (P1) here all the way...
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I love the design of the Jungle Hunter, but I like the head of The City Hunter more even if it goes just a tad bit too far on the evil aspect.
Personally, I would vote for both.
Celtic's and Gort's biomasks are my favorite in the series.
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Jungle Hunter has by far the best looking face, though.
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This is the face of Classic from Predators. Very Inferior to JH.
Glad to hear so many fans still like the original design that we had a hand in creating. The evolution between the Van Damme Insect to the Masai warrior (though Stan referred to our design as Rastafarian) was quite an undertaking. And to think all this might never have happen if Fox had not changed it's mind after putting the designs on hold while they contemplated replacing the Predator with the Alien from "Alien. Fortunately they changed their minds after a week or two and we went back to work. Robert Short
First off, welcome to the boards Robert! We always love having people involved in the series join us.
Quote from: delfloria on May 13, 2016, 08:20:53 AM
And to think all this might never have happen if Fox had not changed it's mind after putting the designs on hold while they contemplated replacing the Predator with the Alien from "Alien. Fortunately they changed their minds after a week or two and we went back to work. Robert Short
I don't think I've ever heard this story. Could you elaborate?
City Hunter for sure, though I greatly like the Jungle Hunter as well. Followed by Berserker and Wolf.
Quote from: Corporal Hicks on May 13, 2016, 08:34:06 AM
First off, welcome to the boards Robert! We always love having people involved in the series join us.
Quote from: delfloria on May 13, 2016, 08:20:53 AM
And to think all this might never have happen if Fox had not changed it's mind after putting the designs on hold while they contemplated replacing the Predator with the Alien from "Alien. Fortunately they changed their minds after a week or two and we went back to work. Robert Short
I don't think I've ever heard this story. Could you elaborate?
While my team was in the middle of the redesign, the studio thought that it would just be a lot less hassle to use an already existing creature they already owed than deal with trying to create a brand new creature after the Boss suit stalled. So, for a while the Predator concept was just going to be replaced by the alien. Needless to say I was disappointed because I thought we were onto some relatively cool designs at that point. For more info about the overall redesign phase you can check it out toward the bottom of the page at my website. http://www.robertshortfx.com/features.html
Celtic deserves a mention as well, hands down the best designed Predator of AVP, especially the bio mask.
Quote from: delfloria on Jun 08, 2016, 02:32:45 AM
While my team was in the middle of the redesign, the studio thought that it would just be a lot less hassle to use an already existing creature they already owed than deal with trying to create a brand new creature after the Boss suit stalled. So, for a while the Predator concept was just going to be replaced by the alien.
So the idea actually came from Fox? Interesting! Thanks for sharing - and the link! :) Some of those I've only ever seen poor quality images of.
Quote from: delfloria on Jun 08, 2016, 02:32:45 AM
Quote from: Corporal Hicks on May 13, 2016, 08:34:06 AM
First off, welcome to the boards Robert! We always love having people involved in the series join us.
Quote from: delfloria on May 13, 2016, 08:20:53 AM
And to think all this might never have happen if Fox had not changed it's mind after putting the designs on hold while they contemplated replacing the Predator with the Alien from "Alien. Fortunately they changed their minds after a week or two and we went back to work. Robert Short
I don't think I've ever heard this story. Could you elaborate?
While my team was in the middle of the redesign, the studio thought that it would just be a lot less hassle to use an already existing creature they already owed than deal with trying to create a brand new creature after the Boss suit stalled. So, for a while the Predator concept was just going to be replaced by the alien. Needless to say I was disappointed because I thought we were onto some relatively cool designs at that point. For more info about the overall redesign phase you can check it out toward the bottom of the page at my website. http://www.robertshortfx.com/features.html
Thanks for sharing with us, very interesting piece of information. I did not know these things except for Van Damminator. I feel like it's an ultimate predator concept knowledge ;) It must be awesome to be one of the Predator creators even as a concept.
I think for me the film that City Hunter looks good in is Predator 2. And this is because the lighting; I've never been that keen on the Pred's eyes, I've always found them a bit goofy. Maybe no iris's would have been better. But when a shadow is cast over the Predators eye sockets and they are not that visible then I think it looks amazing, and a great example of that is the Slaughterhouse in Predator 2:
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Although in Predator 2, the same Predator looks one of the worst. And again, it's because of the eyes:
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I'm probably alone with the eye thing. I have always thought the Predator looked better masked.
I always thought the face FX in 1 &2 were the best despite some goofy shots of the eyes. I actually never noticed the eye issues in predator 1 until someone pointed them out to me.
The Jungle Hunter is the classic one, everybody loves it.But I really enjoyed the design of the Super Predators, especially Falconer, his mask is just mind-blowing!
Quote from: serbip1 on Sep 21, 2016, 04:11:16 PM
I really enjoyed the design of the Super Predators, especially Falconer, his mask is just mind-blowing!
Same here, Berserker and Tracker looked amazing in my opinion.
I love the decoration on Berserker's mask. I think that kind of design choice is great. Adds personality to the design.
I think that all the predators except the ones in the first avp film are decent to some extent. First one is def my favorite but I kinda liked the second one as well.
Quote from: delfloria on Jun 08, 2016, 02:32:45 AM
Quote from: Corporal Hicks on May 13, 2016, 08:34:06 AM
First off, welcome to the boards Robert! We always love having people involved in the series join us.
Quote from: delfloria on May 13, 2016, 08:20:53 AM
And to think all this might never have happen if Fox had not changed it's mind after putting the designs on hold while they contemplated replacing the Predator with the Alien from "Alien. Fortunately they changed their minds after a week or two and we went back to work. Robert Short
I don't think I've ever heard this story. Could you elaborate?
While my team was in the middle of the redesign, the studio thought that it would just be a lot less hassle to use an already existing creature they already owed than deal with trying to create a brand new creature after the Boss suit stalled. So, for a while the Predator concept was just going to be replaced by the alien. Needless to say I was disappointed because I thought we were onto some relatively cool designs at that point. For more info about the overall redesign phase you can check it out toward the bottom of the page at my website. http://www.robertshortfx.com/features.html
Hi Robert,
Thank you for the amazing insight on this. Really does shed a light on all those concepts and how they are positioned chronologically -- I was familiar with all of them but never could place them in the history of the concept phase. Brilliant. Thank you very much!
For me classic for obviously reason but I do love berserker. Just one mean predator
I only ever liked the design of the original, mask and unmasked, never really liked any of the other ones at all, and I mean, at all. Just a preference I guess
I prefer the face from the jungle hunter, the mask of the city hunter, the body armor of both. Also love wolf's design, badass ! The ones from Predators didn't do much for me, not menacing enough I think, except maybe for Berserker, I liked his mask, but the body wasn't great. Hated AVP's design like a lot of people lol.
My favorite design is actually the Elder Predator at the end of P2. It was just so memorable. I loved the attention to detail the FX guys did to really bring character to it. The different bones that it was adorned with, the marine patch, the wraps around its gauntlets of course the iconic flintlock pistol even the pierced mandible. Each different piece really told a story. It's awesome that the original predator in P1 was used as the Elder in P2. I think Wolf Predator is also close 2nd to me. Loved the duel plasma casters.
I love the P2 elder, Ahab and Scarface.
I think it's Jungle Hunter and Wolf ex aequo for me
Predator 2 my favorite. Predator after
If i were to split up parts of preds appearance though, i'd say regarding pred masks my favourites are city hunter and wolf's, and with an honorable mention for berserker.
On physical appearance besides the mask, my number one still is jungle hunter.
While the classics still are my favorites, I stumbled across this one and it just has something that I really like...
(https://cdna.artstation.com/p/assets/images/images/009/285/110/large/carlo-arellano-pred.jpg?1518112678)
https://www.artstation.com/artwork/dXa9X
Redesign from the neck down and god damn that might be my new favorite Predator.
Exactly, I imagine it's cheeks/skin folds in behind the lower mandible, the top mandible slotted in and allowing for a sleeker face. I imagine it's more coastal in heratige but I really like the design itself.
I'm all for variations, not just the bastard childs that were in AvP and Predators...
I'm digging that artwork as well, I like the idea of there being different predator races.
I like that art. Looks very prehistoric...reminds me of a reptilian species of some sort. The angular features could probably follow farther down into the torso.
That art is too reptilian for me, personally - it takes the pred from "humanoid extraterrestrial" to "monster" in my opinion. Then again, I like Scar's face, and I know I'm in the minority on that here!
Anyway, I think my favorite pred design is Wolf. I like his equipment - the one-shoulder pauldron, the bandolier - his coloring, and his lean musculature. Though I also really like Scar's expressive eyes and long dreads.
1 - Predator 2
2 - Predator 1
3 - Guardian - Predator 2
4 - Wolf - AVPR
The rest are a mess
1) City
2) Jungle
3) Tracker
4) Beserker
5) Wolf
The rest is meh
Waiting to see how Captured and Upgrade fit in ... need to see more.
So every time I see this sculpture I have to stop and admire its design.
(https://i.imgur.com/u9mVHWm.jpg)
I love it. The mask that only covers the mandibles is a really unique and cool too. Kind of wish they would have gone with something more like this in Predators or perhaps use this in a future instalment that dabbles with the "new breed"/upgraded story.
Gorgeous, gnarly.
I dig it. It's like a locust predator.
Yeah very agressive face, which is always great.
Stan Winston at his zenith.
(https://i2.wp.com/doblu.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/08/predator4k12005.jpg)
(https://i2.wp.com/doblu.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/08/predator4k13538.jpg)
(https://i0.wp.com/doblu.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/08/predatortwo4k11616.jpg)
(https://i2.wp.com/doblu.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/08/predatortwo4k12102.jpg)
CH Design > JH Design
JH Respect > CH Respect
Since my comparison images apparently completely disappeared:
(https://highdefdiscnews.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/01/predator_4k_43-1024x576.png)
(https://highdefdiscnews.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/01/predator_4k_48-1024x576.png)
(https://highdefdiscnews.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/01/predator_4k_50-1024x576.png)
(https://highdefdiscnews.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/01/Predator_2_4k_34-1024x576.png)
(https://highdefdiscnews.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/01/Predator_2_4k_40-1024x576.png)
(https://highdefdiscnews.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/01/Predator_2_4k_47-1024x576.png)
CH rules!
Agreed. My personal favourite.
Yeah, the second film's has always been my favourite. I love what Winston and co. did with it.
The 1987 "Jungle Hunter" is my favourite.
City Hunter.
Oh you know who's da best....
(https://media.giphy.com/media/QcOHBURvAn4kM/giphy.gif)
CITY HUNTER!!!
(https://media2.giphy.com/media/l378cQ46L0oznCzvi/giphy.gif)
(https://media0.giphy.com/media/PvNDWMKennKo/giphy.gif)
All day, every day.
Didn't know where else to post this, but here's a pretty cool BTS video from Predator 2:
https://www.stanwinstonschool.com/blog/predator-2-making-the-predator-suits
Quote from: Katanu on Nov 19, 2019, 06:19:03 PM
Didn't know where else to post this, but here's a pretty cool BTS video from Predator 2:
https://www.stanwinstonschool.com/blog/predator-2-making-the-predator-suits
Yeah, I'm always going back to that post. :)
Great website.
Voted Predator 1 coz it's literally perfect. Predator 2 design is a very close second. The rest belong in the bin.
Yeah, that's fair I think.
Quote from: [cancerblack] on Nov 26, 2019, 10:10:57 AM
Voted Predator 1 coz it's literally perfect. Predator 2 design is a very close second. The rest belong in the bin.
But that right eye...
What's the issue about it?
I hate to tell you this because, for some, once you see something, you can't unsee it. And that happened to me during a Predator viewing one time. But alas, you're asking, so...
Proceed at your own risk.
Spoiler
If you watch the Jungle Hunter after it removes its mask, it often looks like Kevin Peter Hall's right eye is slipping under the latex and/or Kevin's contact lens shifted giving the appearance of an lazy eye, which I've found distracting. It occurs for most of the sequence.
(https://i.ibb.co/H7V8Jbs/Screenshot-20191126-084724.jpg)
(https://i.ibb.co/znTVJbY/Screenshot-20191126-091131.jpg)
So I prefer to run with the notion after some dangerous hunts, the Jungle Hunter was blinded in one eye.
I noticed the eye thing years ago with Jungle Hunter and thought I was just seeing things, good to know I'm not the only one.
It's hard to pick a favorite personally cause I feel they all do at least something better than the last one. However I know it's not cinematic but the Kenner Stalker Predator (and accompanying Neca redesign) is something I really enjoy.
I honestly quite like all the Predator designs with the exception of the first AVP ones. I just hate the bulky look they went for. Scar and his chums look cumbersome and clumsy where the others have all looked sleek and dangerous.
But yeah, there's no question that the first two are the best. I like the second one more just because I think the design's a bit more interesting and obviously better executed (not being such a rush job), but both the Winston creations are head and shoulders above what's come since. There's also all those amazing Predators at the end of Predator 2. I dunno what the Winston crew had that others seemingly lack but their Predator variations all looked so perfect, whereas a lot of the ones people have come up with since look like they're trying too hard to do soemthing different.
As much as I hate Requiem, Wolf was a pretty good design and a huge improvement on the first AVP. KNB's work on the third film was decent, and I especially liked the look of Falconer. The Fugitive is almost certainly the best on-screen Predator we've had since the first two films though.
Quote from: SuperiorIronman on Nov 26, 2019, 03:07:43 PM
I noticed the eye thing years ago with Jungle Hunter and thought I was just seeing things, good to know I'm not the only one.
It's hard to pick a favorite personally cause I feel they all do at least something better than the last one. However I know it's not cinematic but the Kenner Stalker Predator (and accompanying Neca redesign) is something I really enjoy.
The Kenner Stalker Predator? Interesting choice!
I'm a Lava Predator guy. 8)
Quote from: HuDaFuK on Nov 26, 2019, 03:24:43 PMThe Fugitive is almost certainly the best on-screen Predator we've had since the first two films though.
No, no, not that awful slack-jawed Crabator! To me I think it was the best painting ADI has done, loved the non-ADI armor and helmet, but those jaws...
(https://wheresthejump.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/12/the-predator-2018-2.jpg)
(https://66.media.tumblr.com/0e6737a5bd50cb252befbaa239a624ed/tumblr_pg7lqtH61h1xuau3co1_1280.jpg)
I'll take KNB even in this uncomplimentary lighting leaked set pic over ADI Fugitive's broken jaw mug anyday.
(https://i.ibb.co/zZyrv31/Classic-1.jpg)
But I guess I have to remember "the best Predator since the first two films" is like saying "the best Terminator since the first two films". Unfortunately the competition just isn't very good. :'(
Quote from: Voodoo Magic on Nov 26, 2019, 03:57:08 PMNo, no, not that awful slack-jawed Crabator! To me I think it was the best painting ADI has done, loved the non-ADI armor and helmet, but those jaws...
All the jaws have been shit since Winston's boys were making them tbh. The Fugitive overall is easily my favourite design since the second film.
Dare I say it, I also think he's the star of the two best scenes of Predator action we've had since 1990 - the opening few minutes of the film in Mexico and the Stargazer lab escape. For all
The Predator's problems, I thought those scenes were ace, and the best we've seen of the titular character in decades.
And The Fugitive has his own design.
The fact the 1987 Predator is in Predators without barely a change really takes me out of the film.
Quote from: Fiendishly Inventive on Nov 26, 2019, 06:30:50 PM
And The Fugitive has his own design.
The fact the 1987 Predator is in Predators without barely a change really takes me out of the film.
Really? Interesting.
Well I prefer even that over the Bobble-Head Fugitive!
That "Crabator" thing becomes really old. don't you think ? I mean, we get it - you don't like ADI Predators. Damn, even your signature screams about it. Geez ...
Quote from: Voodoo Magic on Nov 26, 2019, 02:07:02 PM
I hate to tell you this because, for some, once you see something, you can't unsee it. And that happened to me during a Predator viewing one time. But alas, you're asking, so...
Proceed at your own risk.
Spoiler
If you watch the Jungle Hunter after it removes its mask, it often looks like Kevin Peter Hall's right eye is slipping under the latex and/or Kevin's contact lens shifted giving the appearance of an lazy eye, which I've found distracting. It occurs for most of the sequence.
(https://i.ibb.co/H7V8Jbs/Screenshot-20191126-084724.jpg)
(https://i.ibb.co/znTVJbY/Screenshot-20191126-091131.jpg)
So I prefer to run with the notion after some dangerous hunts, the Jungle Hunter was blinded in one eye.
Yeah ! I've always found JH's face after Arnold's " You one ugly motherf**ker " looking ... amusing for some reason. Probably they should've cut to roar immediatly
Quote from: Kradan on Nov 26, 2019, 10:46:43 PM
That "Crabator" thing becomes really old. don't you think ? I mean, we get it - you don't like ADI Predators. Damn, even your signature screams about it. Geez ...
I don't know about screams... but that's part of our charm! Crabators, Snaliens, Egg-barfing, Release the Kraden, Pony love, Drake love, Gains, Riddles, AvPR can't see sh*t, The Predator is worse than Alien Resurrection, no Resurrection is worse, the egg, the skull, canon, franchise killers, Huggsy farts, wabbit gifs, incorrect opinions, have we reached a consensus?, who created the Alien, etc. etc.. round and round. You just got to love us! ;D
Quote from: Voodoo Magic on Nov 27, 2019, 12:42:24 AM
Quote from: Kradan on Nov 26, 2019, 10:46:43 PM
That "Crabator" thing becomes really old. don't you think ? I mean, we get it - you don't like ADI Predators. Damn, even your signature screams about it. Geez ...
I don't know about screams... but that's part of our charm! Crabators, Snaliens, Egg-barfing, Release the Kraden, Pony love, Drake love, Gains, Riddles, AvPR can't see sh*t, The Predator is worse than Alien Resurrection, no Resurrection is worse, the egg, the skull, canon, franchise killers, Huggsy farts, wabbit gifs, incorrect opinions, have we reached a consensus?, who created the Alien, etc. etc.. round and round. You just got to love us! ;D
You successfully described me in four words.
Gains, canon and the skull. Samhain13's holy trinity.
Snailiens and Crabators never get old.
Quote from: Voodoo Magic on Nov 26, 2019, 02:07:02 PM
I hate to tell you this because, for some, once you see something, you can't unsee it. And that happened to me during a Predator viewing one time. But alas, you're asking, so...
Proceed at your own risk.
Spoiler
If you watch the Jungle Hunter after it removes its mask, it often looks like Kevin Peter Hall's right eye is slipping under the latex and/or Kevin's contact lens shifted giving the appearance of an lazy eye, which I've found distracting. It occurs for most of the sequence.
(https://i.ibb.co/H7V8Jbs/Screenshot-20191126-084724.jpg)
(https://i.ibb.co/znTVJbY/Screenshot-20191126-091131.jpg)
So I prefer to run with the notion after some dangerous hunts, the Jungle Hunter was blinded in one eye.
Yeah, a goof on a practical effect doesn't take me out of the design itself, otherwise Big Chap would have been ruined long ago.
Quote from: [cancerblack] on Nov 27, 2019, 08:52:03 PM
Quote from: Voodoo Magic on Nov 26, 2019, 02:07:02 PM
I hate to tell you this because, for some, once you see something, you can't unsee it. And that happened to me during a Predator viewing one time. But alas, you're asking, so...
Proceed at your own risk.
Spoiler
If you watch the Jungle Hunter after it removes its mask, it often looks like Kevin Peter Hall's right eye is slipping under the latex and/or Kevin's contact lens shifted giving the appearance of an lazy eye, which I've found distracting. It occurs for most of the sequence.
(https://i.ibb.co/H7V8Jbs/Screenshot-20191126-084724.jpg)
(https://i.ibb.co/znTVJbY/Screenshot-20191126-091131.jpg)
So I prefer to run with the notion after some dangerous hunts, the Jungle Hunter was blinded in one eye.
Yeah, a goof on a practical effect doesn't take me out of the design itself, otherwise Big Chap would have been ruined long ago.
That's fair. :)
P2 design
With the mask on the Original and Wolf are almost tied but then taking the mandibles in consideration...
Tell me about it! >:(
(https://i.ibb.co/NmBFY6J/IMG-20150810-163538-14.png)
(https://i.gifer.com/3T42.gif)
(https://i.gifer.com/3T42.gif)
(https://i.gifer.com/3T42.gif)
No!
Noooo?
Nope.
Quote from: Voodoo Magic on Jun 06, 2020, 07:16:17 PM
Tell me about it! >:(
(The Stuff Of Nightmares)
Oh my Gahhhhdddd...!
Jungle Hunter is the perfect Predator, honestly. KPH gets to act like a mofo at the end of Predator. Though, I might be tied with Elder Predator. There's so much character in just a short minute. So much is said and expressed with just a few gestures.
My wife loves Gort.
My opinion of the movie notwithstanding, I always thought the creature design in P2 represented Winston's own improvement on his original design.
City Hunter's always been my favourite too.
I love how it manages to be both really different and yet still identifiable as the same species from the first film. To my mind no one else has pulled that off since. Winston was a boss.
I don't get why they're apparently so hard to recreate, but then I'm not a creature designer so maybe there's a certain amount of talent required in simply reproducing what's already come before.
Voodoo must know the answer
I just think Predators are something the talent at ADI struggle with, soup to nuts, design to paint application.
In contrast, I'm fine with what KNB did on the fast and cheap with Predators.
(https://i.ibb.co/4MpBxLc/2dd52460-7eee-0136-4c53-13c42ea3d91c.jpg)
(https://i.ibb.co/fNsYCMn/54f7bd40-70a6-0135-2156-03da5153d245.jpg)
Quote from: OpenMaw on Jun 10, 2020, 10:36:13 PM
Quote from: Voodoo Magic on Jun 06, 2020, 07:16:17 PM
Tell me about it! >:(
(The Stuff Of Nightmares)
Oh my Gahhhhdddd...!
Jungle Hunter is the perfect Predator, honestly. KPH gets to act like a mofo at the end of Predator. Though, I might be tied with Elder Predator. There's so much character in just a short minute. So much is said and expressed with just a few gestures.
The Elder was a modified Jungle Hunter suit, so that makes sense!
QuoteMy wife loves Gort.
Your wife sounds awesome! :)
Quote from: Voodoo Magic on Jun 06, 2020, 07:16:17 PM
Tell me about it! >:(
(https://i.ibb.co/NmBFY6J/IMG-20150810-163538-14.png)
I will never understand how people think this was ever an acceptable Predator.
Quote from: OpenMaw on Jun 10, 2020, 10:36:13 PM
My wife loves Gort.
Gort 4 lyf
I still don't know why they went for a fully animatronic face. The eyes just do not work.
... Nothing else does, but the eyes seal it.
Quote from: Voodoo Magic on Jun 11, 2020, 12:22:55 PM
The Elder was a modified Jungle Hunter suit, so that makes sense!
Yeah, and I think one of the great aspects of Elder is life basically forcing art in a way. Since the suit was already in rough shape from the first film a lot of the "stuff" they added to it was really just because the thing was falling apart, but the result is a Predator that really does feel like he's lived a long life and seen some shit. All the wrappings and straps and trophies and things they added.
We simply haven't seen the Predators as character as well realized since the first two films, and I know this might upset some people, but I don't think it has much to do with not having KPH in the suit. He gave it some magic, yes, but I think the big problem is the way the suits have been made, and the way they have been shot and directed.
Quote from: Voodoo Magic on Jun 11, 2020, 12:22:55 PM
Your wife sounds awesome! :)
She is. She puts up with my fanboyism a lot.
Quote from: HuDaFuK on Jun 11, 2020, 08:14:14 AM
City Hunter's always been my favourite too.
I love how it manages to be both really different and yet still identifiable as the same species from the first film. To my mind no one else has pulled that off since. Winston was a boss.
I would never knock City Hunter. He's a great design, and you can totally see what Stan wanted to improve. Things got slimmed down, some of the awkward aspects of the design were fixed. For example the entire backpack and shoulder cannon assembly are completely different. To the point that I sometimes forget City Hunter has a shoulder cannon, it's so inconspicuous when it's on his back.
The one aspect I do like a lot is that both Predators feel like they're of the same species completely, but are also completely individuals. Not just different designs, but they both have unique personalities and styles of hunting.
Quote from: Local Trouble on Jun 11, 2020, 08:26:15 AM
I don't get why they're apparently so hard to recreate, but then I'm not a creature designer so maybe there's a certain amount of talent required in simply reproducing what's already come before.
One of the biggest issues I've noticed is that ADI just uses different materials. There is no excuse to be able to get things authentic and right when you have long time established communities like Hunters Lair and such that have so much detail and documentation, and so many suit builders out there.
Quote from: OpenMaw on Jun 11, 2020, 09:51:34 PM
Quote from: Local Trouble on Jun 11, 2020, 08:26:15 AM
I don't get why they're apparently so hard to recreate, but then I'm not a creature designer so maybe there's a certain amount of talent required in simply reproducing what's already come before.
One of the biggest issues I've noticed is that ADI just uses different materials. There is no excuse to be able to get things authentic and right when you have long time established communities like Hunters Lair and such that have so much detail and documentation, and so many suit builders out there.
Maybe they don't want to do it. I mean, perhaps they want to bring their own take of the Predator design (for better or worse) and that's it. Creative reasons.
Okay, but it looks like garbage, and not in a "it's a matter of opinion" way. In AvP in particular it looks objectively inferior, whatever material they're using, whatever paint schemes they're using, the Predators look absolutely terrible. Completely unconvincing to the eye.
The Predator in the first film immediatley reminds me of life. I had red belly frogs as a kid, and the black patterns, skin texture, the sheen, it all matched perfectly with what you'd expect an actual living being to look like if it was an anthropomorphism Reptilian/Amphibian.
The Predator face in AVP and The Predator looks like what it is. Some kind of latex with paint on it.
In terms of realism, AvP can almost be forgiven for the awful design briefs they had to work with. Anderson didn't want them too slimy, and a big part of what made Jungle Hunter look real was his sheen. Even the inside of their mouths was toned down to a softer pink colour, which saps the realism from it.
The rest, not so much.
Quote from: OpenMaw on Jun 11, 2020, 09:51:34 PM
Quote from: Voodoo Magic on Jun 11, 2020, 12:22:55 PM
The Elder was a modified Jungle Hunter suit, so that makes sense!
Yeah, and I think one of the great aspects of Elder is life basically forcing art in a way. Since the suit was already in rough shape from the first film a lot of the "stuff" they added to it was really just because the thing was falling apart, but the result is a Predator that really does feel like he's lived a long life and seen some shit. All the wrappings and straps and trophies and things they added.
I don't believe it was the original suit, but rather the moulds for the original suit.
Okay I have a serious question.
Fugitive Predator. I've heard some people love his look. Heard others hate it. My question is why?
And the mask was one that not terribly fond of personally
Quote from: BlazinBlue88 on Jul 11, 2020, 08:33:33 PM
Okay I have a serious question.
Fugitive Predator. I've heard some people love his look. Heard others hate it. My question is why?
And the mask was one that not terribly fond of personally
It's a Crabator. It's a crustacean looking Predator with broken oversized jaws and a gigantic disproportional bobble head that can hold pencils within his mandible flaps that likely makes the late, great Stan Winston turn in his grave.
(https://i.ibb.co/CmSVLfp/IMG-20191117-093525-1.png)
(https://i.pinimg.com/736x/a5/42/65/a542656358e13736abc98a296f10deda.jpg)
(https://i.ibb.co/Xz0vLbw/IMG-20190321-130005.jpg)
Long live the work of Stan da Man Winston!(https://i.ibb.co/Tkrmkz1/tumblr-nl7pj5-D1n-C1u1vwpho2-500-1.gif)
(https://i.ibb.co/f0VFBBR/tumblr-or8kgl-RR9l1rp0vkjo1-500.gif)
Stans work is undeniably amazingly better. But I still like Fugitive. :)
Quote from: Voodoo Magic on Jul 11, 2020, 09:11:33 PM
Quote from: BlazinBlue88 on Jul 11, 2020, 08:33:33 PM
Okay I have a serious question.
Fugitive Predator. I've heard some people love his look. Heard others hate it. My question is why?
And the mask was one that not terribly fond of personally
It's a Crabator. It's a crustacean looking Predator with broken oversized jaws and a gigantic disproportional bobble head that can hold pencils within his mandible flaps that likely makes the late, great Stan Winston turn in his grave.
(https://i.ibb.co/CmSVLfp/IMG-20191117-093525-1.png)
(https://i.pinimg.com/736x/a5/42/65/a542656358e13736abc98a296f10deda.jpg)
(https://i.ibb.co/Xz0vLbw/IMG-20190321-130005.jpg)
Long live the work of Stan da Man Winston!
https://i.ibb.co/Tkrmkz1/tumblr-nl7pj5-D1n-C1u1vwpho2-500-1.gif
https://i.ibb.co/f0VFBBR/tumblr-or8kgl-RR9l1rp0vkjo1-500.gif
Okay. Yeah I remember going to Hollywood Wax Museum round Niagra Falls when I was in like 3rd grade. They had a Predator in there. One of the coolest things of that museum.
The mask that Fugitive supposed to wear but got ganked by the kid. The design of that is less impressive than Jungle Hunter or City Hunters silver or bronze mask.
Quote from: Voodoo Magic on Jul 11, 2020, 09:11:33 PM
Quote from: BlazinBlue88 on Jul 11, 2020, 08:33:33 PM
Okay I have a serious question.
Fugitive Predator. I've heard some people love his look. Heard others hate it. My question is why?
And the mask was one that not terribly fond of personally
It's a Crabator. It's a crustacean looking Predator with broken oversized jaws and a gigantic disproportional bobble head that can hold pencils within his mandible flaps that likely makes the late, great Stan Winston turn in his grave.
(https://i.ibb.co/CmSVLfp/IMG-20191117-093525-1.png)
(https://i.pinimg.com/736x/a5/42/65/a542656358e13736abc98a296f10deda.jpg)
(https://i.ibb.co/Xz0vLbw/IMG-20190321-130005.jpg)
Long live the work of Stan da Man Winston!
https://i.ibb.co/Tkrmkz1/tumblr-nl7pj5-D1n-C1u1vwpho2-500-1.gif
https://i.ibb.co/f0VFBBR/tumblr-or8kgl-RR9l1rp0vkjo1-500.gif
(https://i.gifer.com/3T42.gif) (https://i.gifer.com/3T42.gif) (https://i.gifer.com/3T42.gif)
Quote from: 426Buddy on Jul 11, 2020, 10:03:43 PM
Stans work is undeniably amazingly better. But I still like Fugitive. :)
(https://thumbs.gfycat.com/EnchantingExemplaryHoverfly-size_restricted.gif)
Quote from: Kradan on Jul 12, 2020, 05:45:48 AM
Quote from: Voodoo Magic on Jul 11, 2020, 09:11:33 PM
Quote from: BlazinBlue88 on Jul 11, 2020, 08:33:33 PM
Okay I have a serious question.
Fugitive Predator. I've heard some people love his look. Heard others hate it. My question is why?
And the mask was one that not terribly fond of personally
It's a Crabator. It's a crustacean looking Predator with broken oversized jaws and a gigantic disproportional bobble head that can hold pencils within his mandible flaps that likely makes the late, great Stan Winston turn in his grave.
(https://i.ibb.co/CmSVLfp/IMG-20191117-093525-1.png)
(https://i.pinimg.com/736x/a5/42/65/a542656358e13736abc98a296f10deda.jpg)
(https://i.ibb.co/Xz0vLbw/IMG-20190321-130005.jpg)
Long live the work of Stan da Man Winston!
https://i.ibb.co/Tkrmkz1/tumblr-nl7pj5-D1n-C1u1vwpho2-500-1.gif
https://i.ibb.co/f0VFBBR/tumblr-or8kgl-RR9l1rp0vkjo1-500.gif
(https://i.gifer.com/3T42.gif) (https://i.gifer.com/3T42.gif) (https://i.gifer.com/3T42.gif)
Quote from: 426Buddy on Jul 11, 2020, 10:03:43 PM
Stans work is undeniably amazingly better. But I still like Fugitive. :)
(https://thumbs.gfycat.com/EnchantingExemplaryHoverfly-size_restricted.gif)
Nonsense! Long live Scar Predator!
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/proxy/ggQp4UAbzEaBWEHAkax5GitjYmScp7wa3PEBTIlQIrrM_klHO5NK7s402VHu9bsm9LMcPqMAZhTWQffY-AwuvDvn4ms7j6Kp6OOUH9F7FsC7TObECfD_N9is3xzTCeLhCHM4q1nns-6WuMeNcRLff1Hs8ve7AtQ-tZmZofFhmzm6-eos3mQEOas3dIHdPrsN)
At least AvP trio behaved like Predator should.
Quote from: Master on Jul 12, 2020, 09:34:44 AM
Nonsense! Long live Scar Predator!
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At least AvP trio behaved like Predator should.
Not sure if you're serious with that one but if you're :
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Quote from: Kradan on Jul 12, 2020, 05:45:48 AM
Quote from: Voodoo Magic on Jul 11, 2020, 09:11:33 PM
Quote from: BlazinBlue88 on Jul 11, 2020, 08:33:33 PM
Okay I have a serious question.
Fugitive Predator. I've heard some people love his look. Heard others hate it. My question is why?
And the mask was one that not terribly fond of personally
It's a Crabator. It's a crustacean looking Predator with broken oversized jaws and a gigantic disproportional bobble head that can hold pencils within his mandible flaps that likely makes the late, great Stan Winston turn in his grave.
(https://i.ibb.co/CmSVLfp/IMG-20191117-093525-1.png)
(https://i.pinimg.com/736x/a5/42/65/a542656358e13736abc98a296f10deda.jpg)
(https://i.ibb.co/Xz0vLbw/IMG-20190321-130005.jpg)
Long live the work of Stan da Man Winston!
https://i.ibb.co/Tkrmkz1/tumblr-nl7pj5-D1n-C1u1vwpho2-500-1.gif
https://i.ibb.co/f0VFBBR/tumblr-or8kgl-RR9l1rp0vkjo1-500.gif
(https://i.gifer.com/3T42.gif) (https://i.gifer.com/3T42.gif) (https://i.gifer.com/3T42.gif)
I responded to the question "
Fugitive Predator. I've heard some people love his look. Heard others hate it. My question is why?" ya goofball. :P
And then when someone asks "Who here loves The Predator 2018?", then it's your turn!
Come on, I'm not here to antogonize you ! You post your speech about Crabators - I post "Do you ever shut up ?" gif. Like you post gif with Elder throwing Harrigan a pistol when somebody admires P2. That's just how it goes
I'm sorry if it insults or annoys you
Quote from: Voodoo Magic on Jul 12, 2020, 04:01:59 PM
And then when someone asks "Who here loves The Predator 2018?", then it's your turn!
You know it's not gonna happen let's just say EVER :D
The Crabator design from ADI is pretty piss-poor. In my eyes, the folks there have butchered what Stan Winston created and he is probably rolling in his grave from the steep decline in quality of his creation.
From the awful mandible structure to the movement of the Fugitive Predator itself (the running sequence on top of the Star Gazer facility jumps to mind), ADI misses all marks on their work. Just a shame that they are continually handed work after numerous examples of poor execution and quality, imo, for Predator.
I love the speed and swift movement of running predator atop of Stargazer facility. It's one of very few things I like in this one actually
Quote from: Master on Jul 14, 2020, 09:20:41 PM
I love the speed and swift movement of running predator atop of Stargazer facility. It's one of very few things I like in this one actually
I thought they did a really good job with the casting choice. Someone that could actually move as a Predator! If we (hopefully) get another movie sooner rather than later, I wouldn't mind seeing Brian don the suit again.
He was a cool predator. I dug the armor and dreads and look of him. His face is all messed up still but it is better than all other ADI preds imo.
I dunno, mostly I like him. His feet and ginormous head look funny in wide shots but otherwise.
ADI had their time. I'd prefer some new blood at this point. :)
Agreed
Quote from: Voodoo Magic on Jul 14, 2020, 10:20:12 PM
ADI had their time. I'd prefer some new blood at this point. :)
Absolutely!!
There's a curiously not-insignificant number of votes for crabators in this poll.
Wolf is third one though
It's all Voodoo's bad influence
And there's no The Predator option :-\
Design? Probably Jungle Hunter, he's the OG the alien that genuinely looks like he can take down the most powerful action star of the 80s and 90s.
Wolf is a close second.
Probably followed by P2
Then AVP
Then at the very bottom is the super predators since they suck
Quote from: Kradan on Jul 25, 2020, 06:25:05 PM
And there's no The Predator option :-\
Added. Changed so people can change their votes.
Quote from: Local Trouble on Jul 25, 2020, 05:42:09 PM
There's a curiously not-insignificant number of votes for crabators in this poll.
We're clearly not educating our kids well enough.
This is what it feels like when people say they like the AvP or AvPR Alien designs the most :-[
Which designs will you employ in 2030?
I'll figure it out in post.
Been awhile since I posted in this thread. With that said, Fugitive's major issue is indeed his mouth. No clue what the disconnect is between concept to execution, but if the mouth was done correctly, I would no zero issues with his design. Im fact, I love most everything else about him. His skin coloring and details, his unique Bio. Even the rest of his head, eyes, etc. Looks great.
It's literally just that horrible mouth. And I agree his head is a tad too big.
(https://i.imgur.com/zo74IvI.jpg)
Yeah the ADI unmasked heads grew in size from AvP to The Predator, into that top heavy, bobble-head, do Predators have necks? look. They looked their best from the side, but from the front? Oofa. :-\
It Is interesting though that the shot above with the Fugitive appears to have a much better structured mouth than the actual screengrab below:
(https://i.ibb.co/qWKT4jj/Screenshot-20190104-093524.png)
Ironically, the cg head of the Assassin/Upgrade was smaller in size with much better proportions.
More than likely, the one of the person in the chair is wearing a non animatronic mask. It seems only that one, seen on screen in closeups has those really bad loose flaps/extra skin alot of ADI mask suffer from.
In fact, every post Stand WInston/Predator 2 mask have all suffered from 'can't figure out Stan's Mouth Skin" issues, including KNB.
I didn't see much of a flap problem with KNB.
(https://64.media.tumblr.com/07d2a345c2fa2386bbdbb3fafd22eb2a/7d5c15b4fe2c50ee-22/s400x600/2c97cd56b39bc648d6e6f89160cfd6ddf1effe0b.gif)
ADI on the otherhand.... oy...
(https://media0.giphy.com/media/4olCC4plGHHyM/giphy.gif?cid=19f5b51a5d0931e178492f506b17040d&rid=giphy.gif)
KNB > ADI All day long for me.
Quote from: Voodoo Magic on Nov 29, 2020, 06:54:32 PM
I didn't see much of a flap problem with KNB.
(https://i.imgur.com/Dh0VuYB.png)
Quote from: Voodoo Magic on Nov 29, 2020, 06:54:32 PM
I didn't see much of a flap problem with KNB.
https://64.media.tumblr.com/07d2a345c2fa2386bbdbb3fafd22eb2a/7d5c15b4fe2c50ee-22/s400x600/2c97cd56b39bc648d6e6f89160cfd6ddf1effe0b.gif
ADI on the otherhand.... oy...
https://media0.giphy.com/media/4olCC4plGHHyM/giphy.gif?cid=19f5b51a5d0931e178492f506b17040d&rid=giphy.gif
KNB > ADI All day long for me.
I'm just gonna come out here and say it, I think ADI are among the very worst in their field. Alien 3 was an absolute fluke.
Quote from: Sol on Nov 29, 2020, 07:42:01 PM
Quote from: Voodoo Magic on Nov 29, 2020, 06:54:32 PM
I didn't see much of a flap problem with KNB.
https://i.imgur.com/Dh0VuYB.png
I didn't say I didn't see any. Yes, when comparing ADI and KNB, again I'll say "I didn't see
much of a flap problem with KNB." And I still don't. Not like ADI's awkward rolls and pencil holders. :)
(https://i.ibb.co/Dzttb6M/IMG-20201129-144616.jpg)
(https://i.ibb.co/YQWj8yc/Screenshot-20201129-144309-Gallery.jpg)
City Hunter is my favorite. I always liked the skin pattern and design of his armor. And he has those horns on his mandibles.
I agree about the need for change, ADI had their shots, and although they improved a bit since AVP, it's still very unsatisfying to say the least... I would love to see Legacy for the next movie ! KNB why not, but I wasn't thrilled either with their work on Predators.
For the designs, City Hunter's mask > Jungle Hunter's mask
Jungle Hunter's face > City Hunter's face
...And a perfect draw for the rest :P
Quote from: Voodoo Magic on Nov 29, 2020, 07:58:51 PM
Quote from: Sol on Nov 29, 2020, 07:42:01 PM
Quote from: Voodoo Magic on Nov 29, 2020, 06:54:32 PM
I didn't see much of a flap problem with KNB.
https://i.imgur.com/Dh0VuYB.png
I didn't say I didn't see any. Yes, when comparing ADI and KNB, again I'll say "I didn't see much of a flap problem with KNB." And I still don't. Not like ADI's awkward rolls and pencil holders. :)
(https://i.ibb.co/Dzttb6M/IMG-20201129-144616.jpg)
(https://i.ibb.co/YQWj8yc/Screenshot-20201129-144309-Gallery.jpg)
It's all bad, and definitely does not pass the smell test. None of them actually created a mouth that emulates the originals correctly. Those bits of skin between the mandibles do not sag, crinkle or slope in anyway on Stan's original designs. Like our mouths, they are tight and elastic. Not rolls of Bologna.
Quote from: seattle24 on Nov 29, 2020, 07:42:49 PMQuote from: Voodoo Magic on Nov 29, 2020, 06:54:32 PMI didn't see much of a flap problem with KNB.
https://64.media.tumblr.com/07d2a345c2fa2386bbdbb3fafd22eb2a/7d5c15b4fe2c50ee-22/s400x600/2c97cd56b39bc648d6e6f89160cfd6ddf1effe0b.gif
ADI on the otherhand.... oy...
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KNB > ADI All day long for me.
I'm just gonna come out here and say it, I think ADI are among the very worst in their field. Alien 3 was an absolute fluke.
I disagree with this notion. They know what they are doing. Alot of their choices specifically with the Predators seems to be intentional, and not due to lack of ability.
They also seem to have a desire to always want to reinvent the wheel, and not simply replicate the work. This desire seems to get in the way of simply adhering to the design language established by it's creator while also doing something unique with yours.
This applies to the Aliens franchise and Predator. They have yet to actually replicate the original designs. This is a choice. A weird one, but a choice none the less.
Predator still top tier.
partial to Berserker in Predators, though.
I like the masks in AVP.. the rest of the suit? No.
Elder in AVP even had a pimp cape :laugh: Clown movie.
He keeps his pimp hand strong... for close encounters.
(https://i.pinimg.com/originals/f5/b3/16/f5b3164781bb8ae9cf3f720c3b57541b.gif)
:D
I'm a little more forgiving about the mandible positioning, if the skin is right. Winston gave us two dynamically different Pred designs, each with different mandible resting positions.
What was consistent was the skin holding it all together. Tight like a tiger.
IMO the best Fugitive ever looked, was as a prime 1 statue.
https://m.imgur.com/r06y6Vn
Quote from: Sol on Nov 30, 2020, 05:59:27 PM
I'm a little more forgiving about the mandible positioning, if the skin is right. Winston have us two dynamically different Pred designs, each with different mandible resting positions.
What was consistent was the skin holding it all together. Tight like a tiger.
Although there is some variation, I think ultimately the mandible resting positions were the same.
(https://i.ibb.co/xjfhWjd/tumblr-nl7pj5-D1n-C1u1vwpho2-500-1.gif)
(https://i.ibb.co/kqpQkWZ/tumblr-or8kgl-RR9l1rp0vkjo1-500.gif)
Compare that to this bad dream...
(https://i.gifer.com/9ufG.gif)
Quote from: The Shuriken on Nov 30, 2020, 06:12:11 PM
IMO the best Fugitive ever looked, was as a prime 1 statue.
https://m.imgur.com/r06y6Vn
Neca's even looked better. *sigh* It is frustrating when the collectibles look better than what was in the movie... :-[
sigh
I am sorry for what I'm about to do, I really am. But...
Spoiler
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Quote from: Kradan on Nov 30, 2020, 07:28:37 PM
I am sorry for what I'm about to do, I really am. But...
Spoiler
(https://i.gifer.com/3T42.gif)
Spoiler
(https://i.ibb.co/t31f1VC/IMG-20190916-160417.jpg)
Your point ? I mean, besides "Crabators are terrible, boo ADI"
My point was how rude! Now stop disrupting our important discussions about
(https://i.gifer.com/KaKn.gif)
;D
Quote from: Voodoo Magic on Nov 30, 2020, 07:22:23 PM
Quote from: Sol on Nov 30, 2020, 05:59:27 PM
I'm a little more forgiving about the mandible positioning, if the skin is right. Winston have us two dynamically different Pred designs, each with different mandible resting positions.
What was consistent was the skin holding it all together. Tight like a tiger.
Although there is some variation, I think ultimately the mandible resting positions were the same.
https://i.ibb.co/xjfhWjd/tumblr-nl7pj5-D1n-C1u1vwpho2-500-1.gif
https://i.ibb.co/kqpQkWZ/tumblr-or8kgl-RR9l1rp0vkjo1-500.gif
Compare that to this bad dream...
https://i.gifer.com/9ufG.gif
Quote from: The Shuriken on Nov 30, 2020, 06:12:11 PM
IMO the best Fugitive ever looked, was as a prime 1 statue.
https://m.imgur.com/r06y6Vn
Neca's even looked better. *sigh* It is frustrating when the collectibles look better than what was in the movie... :-[
Yea, they are very similar. Even in the film itself though, it seems to have at least two resting positions for City Hunter. His bottom two mandibles at times are almost completely vertical in some shots.
You know whats interesting is how the concept head sculpts of some of the recent Preds that have appeared on screen look far superior to the finish products. Wolf and Emissary being prominent examples.
(https://i.imgur.com/FXy6zj8.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/WxJWurE.jpg)
I wish they would let the same artist who did these conceptual sculpts do the whole on screen costume. Steve Wang did that Wolf there, and we all know he's a FX God with costume work.
Yeah, indeed.
Quote from: Sol on Nov 30, 2020, 07:50:35 PM
Yea, they are very similar. Even in the film itself though, it seems to have at least two resting positions for City Hunter. His bottom two mandibles at times are almost completely vertical in some shots.
That's true. Somewhat slightly more so than what we've seen from the Jungle Hunter (but granted, we didn't get much of the Jungle Hunter unmasked.) But it appears that the Jungle Hunter could reproduce that vertical bottom mandibles look too if it wanted to... to the effect of stiffening a chin or bottom lip to us perhaps.
(https://ultimateactionmovies.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/09/Predator-Spider-Cover.jpg)
In the case of Wolf I think it looked the way it did simply due to the animatronic. He looks a bit more alien since that's not Ian's eyes like on Scar and instead is just an animatronics. They also wanted the eyes to kind of sit like a predatory cat's if I remember correctly. But regardless it was to walk back some of the design decisions from Scar.
I can't remember if I posted it or if somebody else did but basically "the Predator is a character whom we should never see smile". AVP went a bit too far with the emoting and so while Scar connects with the audience he isn't exactly threatening since when he wants to look nice, he looks really nice, when he looks threatening he looks more cool then horrifying. For Wolf they walked that back but gave him a larger forehead as a result of including the animatronics. I think for the time it was even one of the bigger heads. Though while Wolf isn't ideal, he did seem to hit it off with people so I will give that one to ADI since his design has endured.
What is that hanging from the bottom left side of his mandible?
(https://i.ibb.co/xjfhWjd/tumblr-nl7pj5-D1n-C1u1vwpho2-500-1.gif)
Predator drool. It eventually drips off. ;D
Yeah SI, I think it was the Strause brothers that wanted Wolf to look more sloped and cat-like l believe...
To me it was lit with some decent sinister lighting that did a good job hiding its paint flaws on the homeworld...
(https://i.ibb.co/9vwMQN0/tumblr-pdrzzu5-J7-X1x5540co1-500.gif)
Then looking really bad imo in the deleted scene...
(https://i.ibb.co/b7PzP5F/IMG-20190321-170011.jpg)
Then went to hard to make out in the dark rainy battle.
(https://i.ibb.co/f4LdMbg/90092285-578643199403942-5855494551788547641-n.jpg)
(https://i.ibb.co/5sCYVxF/hqdefault-1.jpg)
For me, Wolf was cool with his mask on, and since he had that mask on for 97% of the movie and for that 3% it was hard to notice the crabator details, it's the ADI Predator I prefer.
Wolf had one of the coolest bio mask designs.
Agreed, my favorite mask with City Hunter's.
Chopper's mask design from AVP is another one of my favorites.
(https://i.ytimg.com/vi/xYOkzw6Q-2g/maxresdefault.jpg)
I sure thought the Celtic mask was cool when AvP came out.
And the Serpent warrior. The Predator with a xenomorph bio mask.
It's interesting to see the different takes on the film creatures, and what looks like in some cases, attempts to improve the designs after the original.
Case in point, the AVP Predators (Scar and Ancient are the only ones we see on screen, which appears to share the same mold).
CoolProps did a maquette on Scar, which looks to be based on the original film material. You can see that mouth positioning here from the film, which alot of us agree this being one of the worst post Winston Pred faces there is right now. And then there's Hot Toys' V2 figure. Here it seems the sculptor took this chance to make a more traditional
Original
(https://i.imgur.com/JaWgGFc.jpg)
CoolProps
(https://i.imgur.com/TGbyG1z.jpg)
Hot Toys
(https://i.imgur.com/JvPSvXk.jpg)
Looks much better than what we saw on film, in my opinion. I just wish once, ADI would adhere to the mandible positions set in place by SW a bit better, and play around with everything else more. We can get dynamically different looking Preds without messing with the mandibles too much. Alter the shapes, the amount of teeth, etc, but don't make them look misshaped, with saggy skin all over.
Here's some good examples of changing it up, while still keeping more in line with what Winston did;
(https://i.imgur.com/xXhnIFv.jpg)
Quote from: Sol on Dec 02, 2020, 02:58:04 AM
Looks much better than what we saw on film, in my opinion.
What if molasar disagrees?
Quote from: Local Trouble on Dec 03, 2020, 12:32:02 AM
Quote from: Sol on Dec 02, 2020, 02:58:04 AM
Looks much better than what we saw on film, in my opinion.
What if molasar disagrees?
Disagrees with my opinion? And who?
Quote from: Sol on Dec 03, 2020, 12:34:33 AM
Quote from: Local Trouble on Dec 03, 2020, 12:32:02 AM
Quote from: Sol on Dec 02, 2020, 02:58:04 AM
Looks much better than what we saw on film, in my opinion.
What if molasar disagrees?
Disagrees with my opinion? And who?
Yes. The "Jaguar AvP is an open world" guy.
Quote from: Local Trouble on Dec 03, 2020, 12:35:23 AM
Quote from: Sol on Dec 03, 2020, 12:34:33 AM
Quote from: Local Trouble on Dec 03, 2020, 12:32:02 AM
Quote from: Sol on Dec 02, 2020, 02:58:04 AM
Looks much better than what we saw on film, in my opinion.
What if molasar disagrees?
Disagrees with my opinion? And who?
Yes. The "Jaguar AvP is an open world" guy.
lol
Went right over my head. I don't know. My whole thought process has to jive with what he feels is right.
Quote from: molasar on Nov 30, 2020, 03:28:31 AM
It seems that you do not have a clue what it really is.
(https://i.imgur.com/KIsqjKK.gif)
Quote from: Local Trouble on Dec 03, 2020, 12:32:02 AM
Quote from: Sol on Dec 02, 2020, 02:58:04 AM
Looks much better than what we saw on film, in my opinion.
What if molasar disagrees?
Come-on, let's not bait please.
Predator 1 and 2 without a doubt. Some of the best creature stuff ever in film. The Lost Tribe was the last batch of Preds that looked really good. Each one a solid standalone design - you really want to know their stories.
AVP never particularly bothered me but AVPR was an improvement. Wolf's scenes are the only bearable ones in that movie.
Thought they looked like big rubbery dumbasses in Predators. Never liked the idea of 'Super Predators.'
The Predator's Fugitive is on the same level as Wolf, his breakout being the only standout scene, although the lack of a tribal look to his armor/tech is a bummer. The Upgrade and all the DNA hybrid bullshit is even dumber than the Super Preds. The deleted Emissaries looked dreadful.
Quote from: Sol on Dec 02, 2020, 02:58:04 AM
It's interesting to see the different takes on the film creatures, and what looks like in some cases, attempts to improve the designs after the original.
Case in point, the AVP Predators (Scar and Ancient are the only ones we see on screen, which appears to share the same mold).
CoolProps did a maquette on Scar, which looks to be based on the original film material. You can see that mouth positioning here from the film, which alot of us agree this being one of the worst post Winston Pred faces there is right now. And then there's Hot Toys' V2 figure. Here it seems the sculptor took this chance to make a more traditional
Looks much better than what we saw on film, in my opinion. I just wish once, ADI would adhere to the mandible positions set in place by SW a bit better, and play around with everything else more. We can get dynamically different looking Preds without messing with the mandibles too much. Alter the shapes, the amount of teeth, etc, but don't make them look misshaped, with saggy skin all over.
Here's some good examples of changing it up, while still keeping more in line with what Winston did;
(https://i.imgur.com/xXhnIFv.jpg)
Nearly all of those designs are perfect, and welcome to be in the movies. Except for the one with human teeth. Human teeth on a Predator throw off the design worse than wrong mandibles ever could.
No idea when I last voted but my initial answer of Predator 1 is sooooo wrong in hindsight.
The answer is the one and only City Hunter. ✌️
Love the coloration and armor. The weapon designs have not been surpassed in any of the sequels either, in my opinion.
Quote from: MrSpaceJockey on Dec 23, 2020, 07:30:09 AM
No idea when I last voted but my initial answer of Predator 1 is sooooo wrong in hindsight.
The answer is the one and only City Hunter. ✌️
Love the coloration and armor. The weapon designs have not been surpassed in any of the sequels either, in my opinion.
Guess who is happy right now ?
Spoiler
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Quote from: Kradan on Dec 23, 2020, 07:33:37 AM
Guess who is happy right now ?
Spoiler
(https://i.giphy.com/media/P3q5bmBBhPEyc/giphy.webp)
(https://i.pinimg.com/originals/92/5e/03/925e030173aad815d2f0b2e9d4fe8dce.gif)
Not gonna lie, it certainly helps that the movie as a whole is based af with the aesthetics of the entire Lost Tribe and the fiery glow of the spaceship interiors - I think it's a shame the series never went back to this:
(https://www.avpgalaxy.net/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2011/06/p2-ship02.jpg)
Predator and Predator 2 is a no brainer I'd say, but if I have to choose just one it's the Jungle Predator just because it's a classic.
Quote from: MrSpaceJockey on Dec 23, 2020, 07:40:34 AM
Quote from: Kradan on Dec 23, 2020, 07:33:37 AM
Guess who is happy right now ?
Spoiler
(https://i.giphy.com/media/P3q5bmBBhPEyc/giphy.webp)
(https://i.pinimg.com/originals/92/5e/03/925e030173aad815d2f0b2e9d4fe8dce.gif)
Not gonna lie, it certainly helps that the movie as a whole is based af with the aesthetics of the entire Lost Tribe and the fiery glow of the spaceship interiors - I think it's a shame the series never went back to this:
(https://www.avpgalaxy.net/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2011/06/p2-ship02.jpg)
Yeah, it's a real shame they didn't stick with it for the AvPs. :'( Felt so out of place at the time. Most of the EU stuck with it after the film came out.
Quote from: MrSpaceJockey on Dec 23, 2020, 07:40:34 AM
Not gonna lie, it certainly helps that the movie as a whole is based af with the aesthetics of the entire Lost Tribe and the fiery glow of the spaceship interiors - I think it's a shame the series never went back to this:
(https://www.avpgalaxy.net/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2011/06/p2-ship02.jpg)
Couldn't agree more! The Lost Tribe, the ship, US Gov having knowledge of them; all of these were exciting reveals.
Though I have yet to really experience the magic of P2 recreated, I am hopeful to see some continuation or backstory of this tribe in future of the franchise.
Yes please!
Quote from: MrSpaceJockey on Dec 23, 2020, 07:30:09 AM
No idea when I last voted but my initial answer of Predator 1 is sooooo wrong in hindsight.
The answer is the one and only City Hunter. ✌️
Love the coloration and armor. The weapon designs have not been surpassed in any of the sequels either, in my opinion.
(https://i.imgur.com/boyRiZp.gif)
Quote from: MrSpaceJockey on Dec 23, 2020, 07:40:34 AM
Quote from: Kradan on Dec 23, 2020, 07:33:37 AM
Guess who is happy right now ?
Spoiler
(https://i.giphy.com/media/P3q5bmBBhPEyc/giphy.webp)
(https://i.pinimg.com/originals/92/5e/03/925e030173aad815d2f0b2e9d4fe8dce.gif)
Not gonna lie, it certainly helps that the movie as a whole is based af with the aesthetics of the entire Lost Tribe and the fiery glow of the spaceship interiors - I think it's a shame the series never went back to this:
(https://www.avpgalaxy.net/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2011/06/p2-ship02.jpg)
Anderson's change in Predator ship aesthetics is a good analogy to his AvP film in my opinion. A ship now made simple, dull, uninspired, uninteresting. :-\
Folks, the next movie is the perfect occasion to see the lost tribe style again, in an older version maybe. Like Mulder used to say, I want to believe...
I'm liking the tribal-cyber tech that is going on with Fugitive and Scarface. I want to see a little more of this in the future as well.
(https://i.pinimg.com/736x/b9/65/71/b965714df2631327bfaa7799d4f3175a.jpg)
(https://i.ytimg.com/vi/8X-VZoQbtwA/maxresdefault.jpg)
I also realize that their color scheme is opposite in one another, dark-red vs gold-white-silvers, but futuresticish in common style. One has a more noble look and the other almost grunge edgy, giving each a distinct personality, I love it.
The original jungle hunter with scars kind of mask/armor - I really did not like the mandible look after predator 1 the face on the OG pred looked the best if you ask me oh and the OG disk from Predator 2 was badass! :laugh:
1 a) Jungle Hunter - Best Maskless
1 b) City Hunter - Best Masked
2) Tracker - Most Underrated
3) Berseker - Coolest Accessorized
4) Wolf
5) Celtic
HM: Fugitive
City Hunter, Predator 2 design is my favorite. I like his visor being one piece, his more prenounced and tilted biomask snout (reminds me of a boar) and his bronze colored biomask. Unmasked I like his design, particualrly the orange aspects of his skin.
Quote from: City Hunter Yautja on Jul 12, 2021, 02:48:34 AM
City Hunter, Predator 2 design is my favorite.
(https://i.imgur.com/boyRiZp.gif)
Put me down for the Predator 2 design, the original is a very close second.
Quote from: Reluctant Jeri on Jul 13, 2021, 10:46:10 AM
Put me down for the Predator 2 design, the original is a very close second.
(https://i.imgur.com/boyRiZp.gif)
Quote from: Voodoo Magic on Jul 13, 2021, 12:48:29 PM
Quote from: Reluctant Jeri on Jul 13, 2021, 10:46:10 AM
Put me down for the Predator 2 design, the original is a very close second.
https://i.imgur.com/boyRiZp.gif
Can I keep it Elder San? :)
I have plenty to go around, available for anyone who recognizes the "Predator 2" greatness.
(https://cdn2.newsok.biz/cache/r960-44571c24cb073a08a20cdb089dcd192a.jpg)
Quote from: Voodoo Magic on Jul 14, 2021, 01:38:45 PM
I have plenty to go around, available for anyone who recognizes the "Predator 2" greatness.
(https://cdn2.newsok.biz/cache/r960-44571c24cb073a08a20cdb089dcd192a.jpg)
(https://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2F33.media.tumblr.com%2Fd159f3fda7c0693750ca976ee1ba5b85%2Ftumblr_nvv1xvZ0jF1rp0vkjo1_500.gif&hash=3b00b53be8976482de0c9824a1d4849d1f978749)
Quote from: Voodoo Magic on Jul 14, 2021, 01:38:45 PM
I have plenty to go around, available for anyone who recognizes the "Predator 2" greatness.
(https://cdn2.newsok.biz/cache/r960-44571c24cb073a08a20cdb089dcd192a.jpg)
Except me, right ?
Spoiler
Tell me, is it because I tolerate Crabators ?
Quote from: Kradan on Jul 14, 2021, 06:23:34 PM
Quote from: Voodoo Magic on Jul 14, 2021, 01:38:45 PM
I have plenty to go around, available for anyone who recognizes the "Predator 2" greatness.
(https://cdn2.newsok.biz/cache/r960-44571c24cb073a08a20cdb089dcd192a.jpg)
Except me, right ?
Spoiler
Tell me, is it because I tolerate Crabators ?
:laugh:
Any lover of Predator 2 gets one!
Quote from: Voodoo Magic on Jul 15, 2021, 12:40:31 PM
Quote from: Kradan on Jul 14, 2021, 06:23:34 PM
Quote from: Voodoo Magic on Jul 14, 2021, 01:38:45 PM
I have plenty to go around, available for anyone who recognizes the "Predator 2" greatness.
(https://cdn2.newsok.biz/cache/r960-44571c24cb073a08a20cdb089dcd192a.jpg)
Except me, right ?
Spoiler
Tell me, is it because I tolerate Crabators ?
:laugh:
Any lover of Predator 2 gets one!
We Pred 2 fans are growing in number! :)
I don't think Predator 2 hasn't been appreciated for a long while.
Quote from: Voodoo Magic on Jul 15, 2021, 12:40:31 PM
Quote from: Kradan on Jul 14, 2021, 06:23:34 PM
Quote from: Voodoo Magic on Jul 14, 2021, 01:38:45 PM
I have plenty to go around, available for anyone who recognizes the "Predator 2" greatness.
(https://cdn2.newsok.biz/cache/r960-44571c24cb073a08a20cdb089dcd192a.jpg)
Except me, right ?
Spoiler
Tell me, is it because I tolerate Crabators ?
:laugh:
Any lover of Predator 2 gets one!
You know, what ? I found this:
Spoiler
Quote from: Voodoo Magic on Nov 01, 2019, 11:32:12 AM
Quote from: Kradan on Nov 01, 2019, 10:11:43 AM
I've said it before and I'll say it again:
City setting is main reason why I put P2 above original
My Man!
https://i.imgur.com/boyRiZp.gif
Now we have to convince everyone else.
https://media2.giphy.com/media/AQr70MgfZNOMM/200w.gif
Quote from: Voodoo Magic on Mar 30, 2020, 02:58:12 PM
Quote from: Kradan on Mar 29, 2020, 05:22:26 PM
♪ ♫ Predator 2, Predator 2, Predator 2 - the best of aaaaall ! Want some candy, shit happens, who's next, f**king Voodoo Magic, maaaaaaaaaaaaan ♫ ♪
Wanna hear that again ? ♪ ♫ PRE-DA-TOR 22222222222222222222222222222222 ♫ ♪
Spoiler
(https://i.gifer.com/MwlO.gif)
https://i.imgur.com/boyRiZp.gif?noredirect
(https://media1.tenor.com/images/084a89cb8f53158a9fd5daf6ae2b7c5f/tenor.gif?itemid=13340458)
Apology accepted good buddy! :)
From my side of the screen it felt like:
(https://us.v-cdn.net/6025735/uploads/editor/1o/uuc5squrxabj.gif)
(https://media1.giphy.com/media/M4iOAkEAPwAnK/giphy.gif?cid=6c09b95225d1fb960ccb606284979af0b2b2063267ac063a&rid=giphy.gif&ct=g)
aaagghhhghggrlllhhhlllhhhrrh
:D
This Xenomorph helm design is trippy:
(https://scontent-sjc3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t39.30808-6/fr/cp0/e15/q65/218389923_338411871107309_3824414881670708293_n.jpg?_nc_cat=103&ccb=1-3&_nc_sid=110474&efg=eyJpIjoidCJ9&_nc_ohc=YXvqEpp63_AAX9AOfTT&_nc_ht=scontent-sjc3-1.xx&oh=57b453a43e3928c23b807fc159f66ac8&oe=60F64EB7)
But how can he see in that damn thing ? ???
Quote from: Kradan on Jul 16, 2021, 09:53:57 PM
But how can he see in that damn thing ? ???
Great question. I'd have put the visor right above the top set of teeth.
Should have gave it a translucent carapace and had him see through that part.
I wonder if the Xenomorph helm fools a Drone Xeno long enough for the Pred to make the kill?
If it's anything other than the AVP Requiem version no.
Quote from: Kradan on Jul 16, 2021, 09:53:57 PM
But how can he see in that damn thing ? ???
Presumably a monitor inside fed by hidden cameras.
City Hunter (Predator 2), I love the brass colored biomask and the mouth piece being more angled like snout of boar.
A runner up for me is Celtic (AVP).
I also love Scar's more traditional biomask.
Quote from: Mr.Turok on Dec 31, 2020, 01:33:37 AM
I'm liking the tribal-cyber tech that is going on with Fugitive and Scarface. I want to see a little more of this in the future as well.
(https://i.pinimg.com/736x/b9/65/71/b965714df2631327bfaa7799d4f3175a.jpg)
(https://i.ytimg.com/vi/8X-VZoQbtwA/maxresdefault.jpg)
I also realize that their color scheme is opposite in one another, dark-red vs gold-white-silvers, but futuresticish in common style. One has a more noble look and the other almost grunge edgy, giving each a distinct personality, I love it.
Facial issues aside, had Fugitive had full body netting, and a larger plasma caster backpack (like Scar or Jungle Hunter) he would be in my top 3.
Quote from: The Shuriken on Nov 04, 2021, 09:40:11 PM
Facial issues aside, had Fugitive had full body netting, and a larger plasma caster backpack (lime Scar or Jungle Hunter) he would be in my top 3.
On those facial issues, many of its problems would have corrected itself I think if not for the implementation of these huge gaping mouths. It seems to be the root of all problems (paint issues aside). If they had opted out of such an exaggerated design, all the subsequent folds and roll issues might have simply gone away.
(https://i.ibb.co/4thtD0t/20211105-084643.gif)
(https://i.ibb.co/vYpbBwv/tumblr-20328e1b6cfe2291c698209a715a57b8-9071590e-500-gif.webp)
(https://i.ibb.co/XVT6DBq/20211105-085923.gif)
Quote from: Voodoo Magic on Nov 05, 2021, 01:07:02 PM
Quote from: The Shuriken on Nov 04, 2021, 09:40:11 PM
Facial issues aside, had Fugitive had full body netting, and a larger plasma caster backpack (lime Scar or Jungle Hunter) he would be in my top 3.
On those facial issues, many of its problems would have corrected itself I think if not for the implementation of these huge gaping mouths. It seems to be the root of all problems (paint issues aside). If they had opted out of such an exaggerated design, all the subsequent folds and roll issues might have simply gone away.
https://i.ibb.co/4thtD0t/20211105-084643.gif
https://i.ibb.co/vYpbBwv/tumblr-20328e1b6cfe2291c698209a715a57b8-9071590e-500-gif.webp
https://i.ibb.co/XVT6DBq/20211105-085923.gif
Yeah I remember all the way back in 2003 when I was watching some behind the scenes footage of the first AVP, ADI was bragging about how wide the mouth would be able to open. Saying that the animatronics are better now. But it does the design no favors. They really don't need to open THAT wide after certain point it just looks ridiculous.
Yep, it needs to be function over form, not the other way around!
Original is my favorite overall. With the mask I might even rank Wolf over Pussyface, I feel like Wolf design is a little of a mix between the designs from the first 2 movies, preffer his mask and armor design.
But then with mask off, Original and Pussyface are equal to me. Like most of the Lost Tribe pretty much, they are all awesome.
After them the Berserkers from Predators I guess, then Fugitive, then AVP preds, the Upgrade at the bottom.