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Title: Predator vision sound (zoom)
Post by: Rid413 on Feb 08, 2014, 04:03:58 PM
Hi all! I have a favour to ask. This is the file http://www.mediafire.com/download/58idz32ne588420/visionsounds.en (http://www.mediafire.com/download/58idz32ne588420/visionsounds.en) ( it's sound is for vision cycles, makes like "BUUFF " sound when vision is activated and like "BEZEE" sound when deactivated  :D, original zoom sound is poor, and I need someone to extract the sound form the file and change it for zoom sound, BUFF sound for zoom in, and BEZEE sound for zoom out. Would be awesome!
Title: Re: Predator vision sound (zoom)
Post by: Xeno Killer 2179 on Feb 09, 2014, 01:03:10 AM
So you want the sound made from switching vision modes to play when zooming in?

Quote from: Rid413 on Feb 09, 2014, 12:40:54 AM
Glorious! i make some time ago a new topic, http://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/index.php?topic=49965.0 (http://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/index.php?topic=49965.0) i think the sound is one of yours :D can you check it?
I never released a file called visionsounds.en
Title: Re: Predator vision sound (zoom)
Post by: Rid413 on Feb 09, 2014, 01:08:32 AM
Well that must be some one else file, but i use some of yours sound, for marines :D zoom in and out, two sounds, and is possible to manage?
Title: Re: Predator vision sound (zoom)
Post by: Xeno Killer 2179 on Feb 09, 2014, 01:17:41 AM
Quote from: Rid413 on Feb 09, 2014, 01:08:32 AM
Well that must be some one else file, but i use some of yours sound, for marines :D and the thing i need is possible to manage?
Yeah, the hardest part will just be locating the files to swap.
Title: Re: Predator vision sound (zoom)
Post by: Rid413 on Feb 09, 2014, 01:19:57 AM
if you can do it, you are a ruler of universe!  :D ill check it later, for now i have to go
Title: Re: Predator vision sound (zoom)
Post by: Xeno Killer 2179 on Feb 09, 2014, 01:26:47 AM
https://www.mediafire.com/?ghd7vg50l7zo41b (https://www.mediafire.com/?ghd7vg50l7zo41b)

I think that's what you were asking for. Let me know when you can.
Title: Re: Predator vision sound (zoom)
Post by: Rid413 on Feb 09, 2014, 10:16:31 AM
Perfect! You have no idea how awesome is this! Thanks a lot, you are the MEN! 8)

Edit. and about the alien vision, i need to ask you to try one more time, just for make sure  :P (https://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Foi61.tinypic.com%2F333yg3m.jpg&hash=0ef9c806aa3211b59913c6b5f88adce48520fd8f) the brighter colour is what you used, now try with the darker one and see how it work. ( or maby use both of them ??? its possible?)
Title: Re: Predator vision sound (zoom)
Post by: Xeno Killer 2179 on Feb 09, 2014, 06:24:07 PM
https://www.mediafire.com/?twl6zai261hss7v (https://www.mediafire.com/?twl6zai261hss7v)

Those colors are pretty much the same; one is just brighter. I made another vision again starting over, but the left side is even darker, so give it a try.
Title: Re: Predator vision sound (zoom)
Post by: Rid413 on Feb 09, 2014, 07:29:06 PM
look similar to the earlier version but i like it. Way more awesome than the original, i have clear viev on alien crawling around in the dark  :D i have almost perfect mods for AvP. only this thermal, i hope some one know how to apply the colours in to the environment
Title: Re: Predator vision sound (zoom)
Post by: MoonerSK on Feb 09, 2014, 07:44:01 PM
the problem with the enviroment is that it will always affect even other stuff and not just fire/light but here is an image of one of my test visions where you can see the part cover in ligth to have different colour

(https://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimageshack.com%2Fa%2Fimg31%2F2792%2Fizei.jpg&hash=5e6a7c5b4e5a86e85dbd0acf074261a7c2ccfb51)
Title: Re: Predator vision sound (zoom)
Post by: Rid413 on Feb 09, 2014, 07:46:40 PM
i know its do effects on other surfaces and this is what i want!  :D look, give me a second and i show you exactly what i mean.


ok here is the deal. Heat vision mode i using in original looks that (https://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi59.tinypic.com%2Fk4853.jpg&hash=06f2e77369dbe5d1b4be27e4450f41850913788d)

and im using also only banckground mod for thermal, and with both mods game looks like this (https://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi59.tinypic.com%2F28c1suf.jpg&hash=beb0f5282b621d5862fa57df73aab97761e4c4dd)

and now, i want to add the colour form thermal vision mod ( link to file https://www.mediafire.com/?98fxq61aesgozrd (https://www.mediafire.com/?98fxq61aesgozrd))
to the background enviroment lights (link for background mod https://www.mediafire.com/?zuj5ckh5whxap89 (https://www.mediafire.com/?zuj5ckh5whxap89))  the colour i think use its the purple, dark orange variants, but the rest of background must stay dark blue and black like on screanshoot, becouse its awesome  8) i know the lights will give some color spots on the ground, walls, and trees and its perfectly ok with me.
Title: Re: Predator vision sound (zoom)
Post by: MoonerSK on Feb 10, 2014, 04:33:39 PM
http://www.filedropper.com/visionmode4editbymoonersk (http://www.filedropper.com/visionmode4editbymoonersk)

tell me how it looks or post a pictures as i don't have avp instaled i can't look at it myself, eventually tell me what to change.
i put everything to one file so you won't need to use two files at onece.

and i have a question about the enviroment colour that you used, did somebody extracted it for you from different vision? because it looks(and i mean also the texture) like one of my vision's enviroment colour. :)
Title: Re: Predator vision sound (zoom)
Post by: Rid413 on Feb 10, 2014, 08:03:14 PM
hey! its looking good :D i have some pics (https://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi62.tinypic.com%2F15x3lsk.jpg&hash=aa21b6e9a9060045c6fa93e3087b0a91a2e2465f)
(https://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi57.tinypic.com%2F2mq7tl0.jpg&hash=77e9b8aa9f0959c8798726d813fcab9c7a1a4520)
(https://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi61.tinypic.com%2F2chtie0.jpg&hash=3e25a38904ea792f171a7b470a713a0825e3b721)
about the background mod, yeap its seems to be yours, i got it from moddb :) and, plz try to use a little bit more of the bright purple colour, you see it on predator wristblades and hands.

you make it looks so realistic, i mean WOW, bravo ;D and as I see, you left the other lights intact impresive :) i can show you from other mod, a screenshot where all kinds of light is brighter and you maby can judge how such change will look in our project :P only to talk this ;)


and here is the other mod, its nice but i dont like the overall colours, humans have very dark red heads  :P check it out
(https://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi58.tinypic.com%2F2iksikl.jpg&hash=ec38cd12d9841b46b227a71e5ea2e1c3049b11b1)
(https://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi59.tinypic.com%2Fmwpp48.jpg&hash=0c157d176674352a939b086df198db854741c7d9)
as you see, even a fog and light stream form sky have some heat signature but as i sad before, overall i dont like this mod that much

the thing you did is way better, i ask only for adding more of the pright purple colour, and some dark orange  and to much of this almost white yellow, replace it witch orange,purple mix and will be perfect
Title: Re: Predator vision sound (zoom)
Post by: MoonerSK on Feb 10, 2014, 09:38:43 PM
will do the changes tomorow as for now i am going to sleep :D i just use the gradient from the vision you provided and placed it in the enviroment without much change thats why there white-yellow things, this time i will use just a selected parts to put there more purple/orange
Title: Re: Predator vision sound (zoom)
Post by: Rid413 on Feb 10, 2014, 09:41:15 PM
awesome! cant wait to see it :D you and Xeno Killer are my personal heroes  8) good night

Edit. if you can use selected parts of whole gradiant i assume the all variants of purple is the coldest ones, the dark orange and orange is midle and yellow and white-yellow is the hot ones :P like i said i cant wait to test it in game :D
Title: Re: Predator vision sound (zoom)
Post by: MoonerSK on Feb 11, 2014, 12:29:16 PM
http://www.filedropper.com/visionmode4edit2bymoonersk (http://www.filedropper.com/visionmode4edit2bymoonersk)

maybe i used too little of yellow this time
Title: Re: Predator vision sound (zoom)
Post by: Rid413 on Feb 11, 2014, 12:56:31 PM
its looks perfect :D well done! there are no white colour at all. amazing !
(https://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi58.tinypic.com%2F14udczn.jpg&hash=32129a50a3bce98b58b5578886a417a08d641a91)

and i have one more thing to ask for, this file is awesome pred roar but its for healing, can you or someone add this sound for trophy kill, i mean only trophy kill, no heavy atack and no sneaky kill only frontal trophy kill?
http://www.mediafire.com/download/p3d6xjp1z5u2cxl/prd_scream3.en (http://www.mediafire.com/download/p3d6xjp1z5u2cxl/prd_scream3.en)
Title: Re: Predator vision sound (zoom)
Post by: MoonerSK on Feb 11, 2014, 01:25:03 PM
well i never really worked with sounds, and for some reson software which i am using for extracting the sound from the file is causing me error with this file so i can't get to sound file
Title: Re: Predator vision sound (zoom)
Post by: Rid413 on Feb 11, 2014, 01:28:22 PM
its ok  :D you did for me so much already, ill wait for Xeno Killer, i think he will now how to make this sound
Title: Re: Predator vision sound (zoom)
Post by: Xeno Killer 2179 on Feb 11, 2014, 07:02:37 PM
I'll have to play around with it. There's a lot of sounds to sort through to determine which one to change. It may also end up being a shared resource, in which case the sound will will affect other events with it.

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update...

the error MoonerSK was having was due to the en file being saved using a wav/sound file that was not compatible with the asura engine extractor, so it kept saying "access violation". I was able to extract it anyways by using the export all feature to get the .bin files, then I just had to strip some useless header data out of the file in hex workshop. After that, any media player can load it.

As for the sounds, I just need to figure out which ones play during trophy kills. I think it's one of the clicking sounds listed under vocals.

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update 2...

The frontal trophy kill and stealth kill share the same two sounds used by heavy attack, so if I change one of them, the sound will play both when you try a heavy attack, and when you grab someone from the front or behind.

I could also try to swap one of the clicking sounds for the sound you wanted. The roar would happen after you already decapitated or killed them (trophy or stealth kill).

Let me know what you think

____

https://www.mediafire.com/?con5abc2lhw8683 (https://www.mediafire.com/?con5abc2lhw8683)

That changes the clicking after killing someone from trophy/stealth kill into the heal roar you posted.
Title: Re: Predator vision sound (zoom)
Post by: Rid413 on Feb 11, 2014, 09:37:07 PM
oh man it perfect! you are the best, both of you are! one question, can you make it lauder. like real heavy, intense angry taunt?

edit. tested it in longer game, there are some issues, it's repalces also the pred cliks when you find a youngblood bodies and activates the self destruck, my pred roars two times in line and i this gives me an idea.

ill give you another 2 heal sounds, and make all 3 for those after kills cliks. And now, the roars each time will be random or in order, or i will get only one of them constantly?

(link for other 2 roars https://www.mediafire.com/?y5jvdysn61rcj5a (https://www.mediafire.com/?y5jvdysn61rcj5a) and now i need to finde a new heal screms :D but this is not a problem at all  ;) )
Title: Re: Predator vision sound (zoom)
Post by: Xeno Killer 2179 on Feb 11, 2014, 09:59:38 PM
I thought it might cause problems.  ::)

Yes, I can make it louder, but the file will become tens times as big, and the quality might go down a little.

There are actually 10 different clicking sounds, and the file I uploaded overrided them all with the roar sound you provided. If the interaction with the youngblood bodies plays a random clicking sound, then there isn't much I can do, but if it's only one of the ten sounds, I can set it back to the clicking and still keep the roar sound.

I think the sounds are random, and do not play in order or sequence.

I'll have to test this myself, but I'm going to be busy with something else for a while.
Title: Re: Predator vision sound (zoom)
Post by: Rid413 on Feb 11, 2014, 10:05:56 PM
and i found something else, after stelth kill the cliking also beacome a roar. About the lauder roars, just leave it, its not that important.
Edit
No rush, have time ;) I will appreciate if you look in to it in free time, just let me know if you finde something


Hi guys!  ;) i have few last things i think about,  I'll appreciate if you help me, again :D

(https://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi58.tinypic.com%2F14udczn.jpg&hash=32129a50a3bce98b58b5578886a417a08d641a91) http://www.filedropper.com/visionmode4edit2bymoonersk (http://www.filedropper.com/visionmode4edit2bymoonersk)
MoonerSK i think you can help me :D this is the vision you edited for me, and i like it a lot, but can you change one colour? i mean only the background, below is a picture, right side, is the actual background colour, left side is the colour (you dont have to use exactly that colour but similar to it) i want you to put in place old one, this should make it more contrast witch the heat colours. nothing more.
(https://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi62.tinypic.com%2F54w4zl.jpg&hash=763c71b4fcad9cb7034da9c2592f2968363bb96b)

second matter is the sound file
http://www.mediafire.com/download/58idz32ne588420/visionsounds.en (http://www.mediafire.com/download/58idz32ne588420/visionsounds.en) it's sound for vision cycles, makes like "BUUFF " sound when vision is activated and like "BEZEE" sound when deactivated, i want do remove the "BEZEE" sound and replace with "BUUFF".
Same sound for activating and deactivating.

and third, most tricky i dont know is this even possible. I have this in mind for long time, here is the deal:
The neutral pred vision (https://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi57.tinypic.com%2Fvfytqs.jpg&hash=1ae158a582d098c01fcc25cd917e04cf151fb760)
can you make it to look like this (https://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi58.tinypic.com%2Fzn0z2r.jpg&hash=8cf04a751a814016fabcf8699956c0da683d5c5c) to make it red-ish like in pred intro (screenshoot is form intro) and add a vision looping sound like this is another pred vision :D? the sound file -> http://www.mediafire.com/download/jdkcnt968z198qo/heartbeat.en (http://www.mediafire.com/download/jdkcnt968z198qo/heartbeat.en) and if this make alien/marine gameplay red-ish and sound looped, i dont care, i can always turn it off when im not play as predator :)
Title: Re: Predator vision sound (zoom)
Post by: MoonerSK on Feb 12, 2014, 02:31:49 PM
i'll swap the blues in the vision and also will have a look on the BUUFF sound :D about changing the neurtall vision not much i can do there as it is not considered a vision in the game it is more like a all visions are off. it just shows how everything is looking normaly. the only way to do that would be to take every single texture in the game and put a red colour over it and there are just too many taxtures in the game :D

/EDIT: here is the vision http://www.filedropper.com/visionmode4edit3bymoonersk (http://www.filedropper.com/visionmode4edit3bymoonersk)

/EDIT2: here is the vision changing sound http://www.filedropper.com/visionsoundsedit (http://www.filedropper.com/visionsoundsedit) hope i used the right one as there were 5 files for changing vision and 1 for vision end, maybe it was all the same sound but if not and i used wrong one just let me know
Title: Re: Predator vision sound (zoom)
Post by: Rid413 on Feb 12, 2014, 03:49:10 PM
(https://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi60.tinypic.com%2Fanllxy.jpg&hash=6e6b68fa7c90222a1fc59abdbb850575da24715b) edit nr 3
(https://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi60.tinypic.com%2F2zzj6v4.jpg&hash=b898f032ecde34342eab3f2868d6f2f793fba173) edit nr 2

see it for your self  ;), i dont know man, i can decide which version is better  :laugh: both are well done.
About the BUUFF sound, you use the right one, and everything is on place.
Red-ish look, i thought so, that will be extreamly hard to do :-[ but what about make only a colour corection? you know R,B and G values make G and B  on - and R on +, and gamma and brightnes corection, can be this done this way?
Title: Re: Predator vision sound (zoom)
Post by: MoonerSK on Feb 12, 2014, 04:16:52 PM
i don't even know if we can change the values of rgb or if there even is something like that for the whole game. the tools from the How to mod AVP tutorial allow us to change textures and sounds not the values(if theres something like that because i have no idea :D ) it is not a problem to repaint texture to be red but repainting all the textures in the game. maybe there is a way to do it through the r g and b and gamma but not one i know about because that aren't things i know much about, maybe someone else could help
Title: Re: Predator vision sound (zoom)
Post by: Rid413 on Feb 12, 2014, 04:38:49 PM
damn, its realy that hard. Where i should go with this idea to get some answers and help maby?
Title: Re: Predator vision sound (zoom)
Post by: MoonerSK on Feb 12, 2014, 05:28:19 PM
hopefully someone on the forum will know how to do it(if it's even possible) but i wouldn't count on that. otherwise i do not know where to go. the modding possibilities for this game are very restricted and not many people have touched it. most of the modding was concentrated on this forum and it is pretty much dead right now
Title: Re: Predator vision sound (zoom)
Post by: Rid413 on Feb 12, 2014, 07:05:48 PM
too bad :( maby i just make new topic just for it, so anywan whos active can read it, i think its nice idea, will make the game more "movie" style. We will see. Thaks a lot for everything! Amazing work  :D
Title: Re: Predator vision sound (zoom)
Post by: Xeno Killer 2179 on Feb 12, 2014, 11:21:38 PM
Quote from: Rid413 on Feb 11, 2014, 10:05:56 PM
can you make it to look like this (https://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi58.tinypic.com%2Fzn0z2r.jpg&hash=8cf04a751a814016fabcf8699956c0da683d5c5c) to make it red-ish like in pred intro (screenshoot is form intro)
You could just wear red filter glasses. Something that has a similar effect to this:

(https://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.eclipse-3d.com%2Fimages%2F65sRGBcardCRT_800.jpg&hash=1c58374031f77e23e645ec75d8b1332e74442007)

The other solution would be to look for a post process injector that can achieve that effect. SweetFX is the only thing that comes to mind, but we can't otherwise easily mod the game to look like that. I don't know how to program shaders, sorry.
Title: Re: Predator vision sound (zoom)
Post by: Rid413 on Feb 13, 2014, 01:17:22 AM
thak for info :) now i know that cant be done the way ment to. I can live with that :laugh: and how about the roars sound and clicks, any progres? If you are busy ill understand, have a lot of time :)
Title: Re: Predator vision sound (zoom)
Post by: Xeno Killer 2179 on Feb 13, 2014, 01:24:19 AM
No progress, still a bit busy. I may have something tomorrow if nothing gets in the way  :P



https://www.mediafire.com/?i2z9ks0ag3pr85t (https://www.mediafire.com/?i2z9ks0ag3pr85t)

the clicks are random with the young bloods. this  file keeps some of the clicks, but also adds a few of the roars you uploaded. there isn't much more i can do with the click sounds
Title: Re: Predator vision sound (zoom)
Post by: Rid413 on Feb 13, 2014, 10:20:33 PM
great wor man, thak you so much for effort  ;)
Title: Re: Predator vision sound (zoom)
Post by: Xeno Killer 2179 on Feb 13, 2014, 10:33:10 PM
I may play around with that sweetFX thing I mentioned earlier. You peaked my curiosity about getting the normal vision to look red.  8)
Title: Re: Predator vision sound (zoom)
Post by: Rid413 on Feb 14, 2014, 11:02:53 AM
I thought that could be a cool idea, combine with looping sound, should be nice effect.
Title: Re: Predator vision sound (zoom)
Post by: Inverse Effect on Aug 02, 2023, 08:31:38 AM
Any updates on the sounds?