First Marvel Collection Revealed

Started by Russ840, Aug 19, 2020, 07:48:02 PM

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drsmuts

drsmuts

#165
Greg Land tracing...there's a shock.

I stopped buying any title he drew for years ago. Awful art that most of the time was guess the porn actress he had traced...

Perfect-Organism

Perfect-Organism

#166
Quote from: SiL on Sep 01, 2020, 09:42:54 PM
I'm getting the Nelson cover or I'm not getting it.

100% agreed.


This is intellectual property theft.

Intellectual priory theft, is theft!

Period.

Land should be ashamed, and marvel held to account.

There should be ZERO tolerance for thieves and we should unite our voices in saying that this is not ok.

judge death

Quote from: Perfect-Organism on Sep 01, 2020, 10:46:39 PM
Quote from: SiL on Sep 01, 2020, 09:42:54 PM
I'm getting the Nelson cover or I'm not getting it.

100% agreed.


This is intellectual property theft.

Intellectual priory theft, is theft!

Period.

Land should be ashamed, and marvel held to account.

There should be ZERO tolerance for thieves and we should unite our voices in saying that this is not ok.
MArvel has been doing this for years with star wars and its not one single artist but several and marvel aproves it.


Prez

Prez

#169
Wow. I've seen Tristan's IG story and it's pretty conclusive.

Won't be supporting Marvel. Won't buy this book.
This is garbage.

We should petition the pricks - make it public. Enough voices in support here to make them hopefully squirm a bit at doing this crap and hiring hacks like Land in the first place.

Nightmare Asylum

The thing is, Greg Land has been doing this for YEARS and lots and lots and lots of people have pointed it out (it yields so many Google results) and yet Marvel still hasn't done anything... :-\

Prez

Prez

#171
Quote from: Nightmare Asylum on Sep 02, 2020, 01:19:17 AM
The thing is, Greg Land has been doing this for YEARS and lots and lots and lots of people have pointed it out (it yields so many Google results) and yet Marvel still hasn't done anything... :-\

Royalty payments are one thing that can be put down to contractual arrangements but this is blatantly IP theft.

F*ck em. Not gonna give em a cent.

Perfect-Organism

I've liked a lot of classic Marvel stuff from the past but the people in charge now are a whole different kettle of fish.  This is so uncool and off-putting.  Real talent is getting hurt here.

Unfortunately, nobody in their right mind would take on the Marvel legal team.  That's the problem with these mega corporations.

Prez

Prez

#173
Quote from: Perfect-Organism on Sep 02, 2020, 01:29:03 AM
I've liked a lot of classic Marvel stuff from the past but the people in charge now are a whole different kettle of fish.  This is so uncool and off-putting.  Real talent is getting hurt here.

Unfortunately, nobody in their right mind would take on the Marvel legal team.  That's the problem with these mega corporations.

Collectively name and shame them in public. Enough voices on here to create a little stir of public awareness hopefully.

SM

SM

#174
Quote from: Perfect-Organism on Sep 01, 2020, 10:46:39 PM
Quote from: SiL on Sep 01, 2020, 09:42:54 PM
I'm getting the Nelson cover or I'm not getting it.

100% agreed.


This is intellectual property theft.

Intellectual priory theft, is theft!

Period.

Land should be ashamed, and marvel held to account.

There should be ZERO tolerance for thieves and we should unite our voices in saying that this is not ok.

It's not theft.

Utterly immoral - but not theft.

RidgeTop

RidgeTop

#175
Quote from: SM on Sep 02, 2020, 03:34:38 AM
It's not theft.

Utterly immoral - but not theft.

That's definitely debatable, in legal terms as well. Artists have sued for less blatant copycat art than this and won, but US copyright law is sometimes messy and inconsistent. This likely falls right on that grey legal boundary, and Tristan would probably have a strong case here. Marvel has settled out of court for these issues before.

Land has a history of even more blatant copying than this:


Kradan

Kradan

#176
Quote from: Prez on Sep 02, 2020, 01:34:15 AM
Quote from: Perfect-Organism on Sep 02, 2020, 01:29:03 AM
I've liked a lot of classic Marvel stuff from the past but the people in charge now are a whole different kettle of fish.  This is so uncool and off-putting.  Real talent is getting hurt here.

Unfortunately, nobody in their right mind would take on the Marvel legal team.  That's the problem with these mega corporations.

Collectively name and shame them in public. Enough voices on here to create a little stir of public awareness hopefully.

Count me in

SiL

SiL

#177
Quote from: RidgeTop on Sep 02, 2020, 04:06:49 AM
That's definitely debatable, in legal terms as well. Artists have sued for less blatant copycat art than this and won, but US copyright law is sometimes messy and inconsistent. This likely falls right on that grey legal boundary, and Tristan would probably have a strong case here. Marvel has settled out of court for these issues before.
Depends on what the Tristan sketches were for. If they fall under the work Marvel now owns from Dark Horse, they basically paid someone to make a cheap copy of something they own the rights to. As SM said, no theft  :-\

SM

SM

#178
Quote from: RidgeTop on Sep 02, 2020, 04:06:49 AM
Quote from: SM on Sep 02, 2020, 03:34:38 AM
It's not theft.

Utterly immoral - but not theft.

That's definitely debatable, in legal terms as well. Artists have sued for less blatant copycat art than this and won, but US copyright law is sometimes messy and inconsistent. This likely falls right on that grey legal boundary, and Tristan would probably have a strong case here. Marvel has settled out of court for these issues before.

Land has a history of even more blatant copying than this:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bshNOtERfVI

Problem is Disney owns Alien and Marvel has the comic license and T has probably already been paid for the work Land ripped off (I think - correct me if I'm wrong).  I daresay this kind of repugnant shit is heartbreakingly legal.

I've seen some of the stuff Land has traced/ stolen in the past and it would likely be easier to argue in court, because it's not part of an IP Disney/ Marvel already owned and others own the copyright of the original material.

judge death

Here are just a few quick findings on cases where marvel uses7stolen designs from fans and artists of star wars:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YhAyTcsgiXs

Was more now when I googled more but I think it gives you guys an idea, and Im leaving for work in 10 minutes xD

And yep taking on marvel: good luck their legal team and amount of money they have: they will walk all over you sadly, and seems most readers dont care as they sell a lot of comics anyways with the stolen art.

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