20th Century Fox and Tongal have just announced they’re teaming up for the first officially sanctioned Alien short film competition! Offering $246,000 in prizes, the competition is open to American fans and film makers and is due to last until the end of the year.
The competition is sorted into various phases, beginning with the pitching phase. Eighteen short form pitches will be selected to move onto a full pitch, each receiving $2000 to help develop it.
That’s right, Tongalers, we're giving you the chance to create your own original story set in the biggest horror franchise of all time: Alien! Go ahead. Run outside and scream with excitement if you want to (just don't do it in space). But then hurry back here and pay close attention to this Brief because we've got a lot to cover.
To celebrate the 40th anniversary of the original Alien, 20th Century Fox is tapping six visionary filmmakers in the Tongal Community to produce their own original short videos set in the aftermath of the original film.
Fox wants a wholly original story with completely new characters but your Pitch should draw on all the things that made the original Alien so groundbreaking. Think about all the unique qualities of the movie before crafting your story.
Following this, 6 pitches will be selected to move onto full blown production and receive a budget of $30,000.
Head on over to the official competition page to learn more about the whole event! You can find out a little more Tongal and their creative processes on their website. Good luck to everyone who enters!
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SOMEONE CALL Neill Blomkamp....
Awww, US residents only...
Find it a bit odd that contestants are required to send them a hard drive!
Quote from: TERMINATOR-SSD on Jun 27, 2018, 06:12:23 PM
SOMEONE CALL Neill Blomkamp....
:laugh:
Missed the US thing. :/
Dam US only.
Here's my story for shits and giggles.
Someone should do a short film, about an Alien fan who is pissed off with how 20th Century Fox and Ridley Scott made shitty Alien prequels. The crazed Fan (probably a member from this forum) kidnaps David Fassbender and demands that David Fincher has to remake Alien 3 with no studio interference and have full control over the script and directing.. If Fincher fails he will cut off Fassbender's fingers and toes one by one and post them to Fox/Disney. However Fincher wants nothing to do with it because of how Fox treated him back in the early 90's when he made Alien3. The kidnapper sends one of Fassbenders fingers to 20th Century Fox / Disney. Ridley Scott is having a breakdown cos his beloved Fassbender has lost a finger and won't be able to finger his flute in Alien Covenant part 2. Ridley now refuses to make Merlin for Disney because Disney and fox can't convince David Fincher to make his true Alien3. Time is ticking Fassbender life's in danger.
If only Vengeance for Wolf qualified. ;) ;D
Are they going to part of the official storyline? I like watching the entire story in chronological order, so 6 short films inserted into the story could be fun!
I was all excited until I saw US only. Booo. Booo, I say.
This sounds so cool.
Quote from: Kimo on Jun 27, 2018, 07:03:26 PM
Dam US only.
Here's my story for shits and giggles.
Someone should do a short film, about an Alien fan who is pissed off with how 20th Century Fox and Ridley Scott made shitty Alien prequels. The crazed Fan (probably a member from this forum) kidnaps David Fassbender and demands that David Fincher has to remake Alien 3 with no studio interference and have full control over the script and directing.. If Fincher fails he will cut off Fassbender's fingers and toes one by one and post them to Fox/Disney. However Fincher wants nothing to do with it because of how Fox treated him back in the early 90's when he made Alien3. The kidnapper sends one of Fassbenders fingers to 20th Century Fox / Disney. Ridley Scott is having a breakdown cos his beloved Fassbender has lost a finger and won't be able to finger his flute in Alien Covenant part 2. Ridley now refuses to make Merlin for Disney because Disney and fox can't convince David Fincher to make his true Alien3. Time is ticking Fassbender life's in danger.
:laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:
He'll live. Just cauterize the wounds. The fingers will become mechanical. ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
Somebody remind him that the trick is not minding that it hurts.
That would be funny if Blomkamp did one
I'd like to see someone with talent win this.
Do my comic!
Quote from: Xenomorphine on Jun 27, 2018, 06:22:38 PM
Awww, US residents only...
Find it a bit odd that contestants are required to send them a hard drive!
:laugh:
It looks like they are looking for people who already have done some professional work so this shouldn't be seen as strange for the people applying.
I wonder if the supposed US resident applicant can hire outside of the US? That would give exceptional quality candidates all around the world. THat is if the individual knows how to go about it....
AMERICA ONLY is the story of my life with Alien Competitions....
How bout they just let blomkamp do his movie instead?
Have a great idea for a story, but ZERO movie production experience. Bah!
I have a degree in film production and I submit to a lot of contests, but have no actual industry experience outside of local television. I can contribute, but I doubt they'll be impressed by my past work. Still, as a fan and a filmmaker, I feel obgligated to give it a shot.
Most contests just ask you to make something yourself and submit.
But being responsible for $30,000?
Having Fox approve every detail before you start rolling?
Trying to come up with something worthy of being part of a franchise I respect so damn much?
This whole thing is pretty daunting.
Quote from: necrotard on Jun 28, 2018, 02:25:30 PM
I have a degree in film production and I submit to a lot of contests, but have no actual industry experience outside of local television. I can contribute, but I doubt they'll be impressed by my past work. Still, as a fan and a filmmaker, I feel obgligated to give it a shot.
Most contests just ask you to make something yourself and submit.
But being responsible for $30,000?
Having Fox approve every detail before you start rolling?
Trying to come up with something worthy of being part of a franchise I respect so damn much?
This whole thing is pretty daunting.
Knowing the business side of things and having the creative process down, you'd probably be a good candidate to contribute your piece to the cause! If anything, this will be a great exercise to sharpen your skills in filmmaking. Everyone needs a creative outlet – indulge your art, I say. (I know nothing of filmmaking, so I may just be talking out of my ass, but it's coming from the right place ha ha...) And that goes for everyone else that's interested, for that matter.
Good luck with it necrotard!
It's a real shame about the regional restrictions. People like SiL and James Bushe are missing out.
That said, I wonder if Alex Popov is going for it. I think Jamie from PO is having a go.
Quote from: missing1 on Jun 28, 2018, 12:53:06 PM
Have a great idea for a story, but ZERO movie production experience. Bah!
Maybe everyone in AVPG should submit and whoever gets in the rest will help out?
The US resident only thing really shot down a great moment of excitement there.
They should spend there money FIXING up ALIEN 3 and getting D Fincher back, that would be the best. This is my dream.
I don't think the amount of money it would take to get Fincher back exists.
Quote from: LtJesseRipley on Jun 29, 2018, 04:55:58 AM
They should spend there money FIXING up ALIEN 3 and getting D Fincher back, that would be the best.
If I was a millionaire I'd do it.
Ok I didn't know what Tongal was so I looked up those links. They are a US-based project management and booking agency. They act as middlemen between end-clients who want various types of non-broadcast films made (e.g. educational, training, marketing, promotion, instructional videos), and freelance independents who pitch for the work. In this case, the end client is Fox. I guess the respondents they are expecting to apply will be first and foremost from their database of freelance contractors who have an existing relationship with them. But all applicants are welcome.
The cutoff date for initial pitch is 4 July so that's not far away, but probably pretty typical for the types of projects they usually handle. So if anyone's interested, the first thing you need to do is find an AMERICAN producer who is willing to front for you. Preferably a producer who works for an existing professional production company (an LLC), because you're going to need to make use of their existing infrastructure for business-type things: legal, banking, book-keeping, hiring of crew and equipment, insurance, logistics, that kind of stuff. You'll also need to get this producer enthused because this person (or rather their LLC) will be the actual competition applicant, and the one who will be responsible to Fox to the tune of $30,000. Once you get this American producer on-board, all crew they hire can potentially be from anywhere in the world (e.g. a U.K. visual effects artist who could interface via internet).
So if you've got a story idea, great, but you need to find that producer!!!
TC
To avoid the regional restriction, can't you set up a US corporation and do the film under that?
That's a good question. The only way to be sure would be to ask them on the Tongalir message board. There's been a few questions from non-Americans already.
I don't know what it would take to incorporate an American co. remotely. (I'm not American, BTW). You would be best advised to consult your own local solicitor about this. Other questions would be registering such a co. with the American IRS, and whether you would need a U.S. bank account. I' m guessing yes on both counts.
The simplest arrangement for a non-American that I can see is :
1. American producer
2. An animation production (no live action crew or equipment hire).
TC
Hello? With Neill Blomkamp please?
Thank you.
(https://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi0.kym-cdn.com%2Fentries%2Ficons%2Foriginal%2F000%2F017%2F981%2FThe_Real_Story_Behind_Black_Guy_On_The_Phone_Meme-500x500.jpg&hash=4cdd4841b71dede507d7894028fe47aab2f9013d)
Quote from: Griffith on Jun 29, 2018, 05:31:34 PM
Hello? With Neill Blomkamp please?
Thank you.
http://i0.kym-cdn.com/entries/icons/original/000/017/981/The_Real_Story_Behind_Black_Guy_On_The_Phone_Meme-500x500.jpg
Please no, someone with talent instead.
Another solution is to work with Americans in the incorporation process. If there are foreign nationals (um... aliens) who would like to make an American film outside America, get some friends or partners to register a corporation in the US. US members of this community could do that if they wanted to participate and help out a foreign friend. The US corporation would submit the film for review. The logic here is fairly clear as it would be an American entity making the submission, however if anyone is thinking of doing this, they would be wise to ask the organizers if that is acceptable. The key question being, are corporations allowed to participate or is the competition limited to individuals?
Quote from: Perfect-Organism on Jun 29, 2018, 07:10:41 PM
Another solution is to work with Americans in the incorporation process. If there are foreign nationals (um... aliens) who would like to make an American film outside America, get some friends or partners to register a corporation in the US. US members of this community could do that if they wanted to participate and help out a foreign friend. The US corporation would submit the film for review. The logic here is fairly clear as it would be an American entity making the submission, however if anyone is thinking of doing this, they would be wise to ask the organizers if that is acceptable. The key question being, are corporations allowed to participate or is the competition limited to individuals?
Yeah, if the product belongs to that new "company" and the product is associated with that respective company's EIN number, then why not? On paper, it's very much keeping things on American soil if that's what they're going for - even down to the tax part. Seems like a legitimate, round-about way of doing it to me.
This... THIS is how you treat fan films... are you listening Paramount?
Quote from: Perfect-Organism on Jun 29, 2018, 07:10:41 PM
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The key question being, are corporations allowed to participate ?
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Yes. Absolutely. In fact, I would go so far as to say they would prefer it because it implies that the applicant has professional backing. But a corp. that's only there to provide an American front? That's something different and requires checking out. (They would definitely be reluctant to encourage anything that has a whiff of a sham structure because that has the potential of embarrassing them in front of their client, Fox. There's no way they will hook Fox up with someone they think could be unreliable).
You see, they call this a "competition" but it's really no different from their normal means of trade. i.e. a client comes to them wanting a film/video/animation/whatever. Tongal says yes, we can manage that for you. Tongal calls for tenders to pitch for the job. Tongal filters the applicants and presnts the good ones to the client. The client picks the successful tender (based on best creative, professionalism, and budget - though this doesnt count in this case). Then Tongal hires the filmmaker/production company. Everything else about the contract management is exactly what you'd expect to find in a professional commission: the client oversight, milestone targets, part payments etc. All the while, Tongal is mediating between client and production co.
The only difference is that Tongal runs, from its website, a means for the individual filmmaker workers (cameramen, CG artists and animators, scriptwriters, directors) to get together. But they need to get together and tender for jobs under the umbrella of a producer. Tongal is not going to put your production team together for you, all they provide is a networking board for individuals to find each other.
That would be another option if you are a non-American with a story: Leave a message on their board requesting an American producer to team up with. It's just that I didn't see much of that activity going on.
TC
Anyway, I'm really glad to see an Aliens topic appearing in the news section. This site has rather been becoming the Predator Galaxy in recent months with all the hoopla surrounding the new film. It's naturally to be expected, but still, I'm just not much of a Predator fan since those AVP films...
There are a few more posts (they seem to be writers) from non-Americans looking for US Producers to partner with:
https://tongal.com/forum/crew-finder
There have been some questions to Tongal about the reasons for the US restriction. It looks like Tongal is well used to hiring international contractors, so it must have been a Fox stipulation. I speculate that it has to do with the high-value Alien IP. International copyright enforcement is already like the wild west, and since this competition is open to amateurs I can imagine that Fox feels they will have a greater level of control if they contract someone in US territory.
Don't give up Perfect-Organism!
TC
If I had the time, I'd be all over this. I've been playing with the idea of doing some filmmaking instead of being a photographer. One day, maybe.
I dabbled before in script writing, but I do not plan to actually participate in this contest. I'm just trying to help others who may not be from the US, but may be better to get a chance to participate.
This really isn't about the money. It's a chance to get some terrific exposure I think, and if anyone here is thinking of a career in film, this is a great way to get a start...
Quote from: Perfect-Organism on Jun 30, 2018, 11:33:48 PM
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This really isn't about the money. It's a chance to get some terrific exposure I think, and if anyone here is thinking of a career in film, this is a great way to get a start...
I think it's safe to say no one will be making money out of ths. Judging from the evaluation criteria, they are expecting a professional skill level from the winners, even if they are technically "amateurs". $30,000 is a generous budget for a real amateur production, but for pro's it's chicken feed. EspecIally for a sci-fi film that's likely to need stuff like creature effects, specialty props, custom wardrobe (e.g. spacesuits), sets, VFX like spaceships, CG animation, etc.
Also, I agree; if you're a first time writer or newish, this could be a great opportunity to break into the industry. But you'll definitely need that experienced (and American) producer to carry you throught the qualification phases.
TC
So I think today is the deadline for the pitches. Has anyone here entered?
I think this is a horrible scam. If you read the text highlighted in red, you'll understand.
Quote4. BY SUBMITTING A VIDEO ENTRY, YOUR SUBMISSION IMMEDIATELY BECOMES THE SOLE PROPERTY OF TONGAL OR ITS ASSIGNEES – SEE OFFICIAL RULES FOR MORE DETAILS ABOUT OWNERSHIP OF ENTRIES. YOU MAY NOT PUBLICLY SHARE OR PUBLISH YOUR SUBMISSION IN ANY MANNER AND YOU MAY NOT POST OR UPLOAD YOUR SUBMISSION TO ANY WEBSITE OR VIDEO HOSTING SITE (INCLUDING, BUT NOT LIMITED TO, FACEBOOK, YOUTUBE OR VIMEO), WITHOUT THE PRIOR EXPRESS WRITTEN CONSENT OF TONGAL AND FOX. FAILURE TO COMPLY WITH THIS REQUIREMENT MAY RESULT IN DISQUALIFICATION OF YOUR ENTRY IN THE PROJECT AND LEGAL ACTION TAKEN AGAINST YOU.
Besides that,
the payoff (for winners only) is a mere $5000. The $246,000 at the top is horribly misleading and it looks as if they're hoping people aren't going to read everything. $5000 isn't nearly enough to justify the time, energy, and work put into the writing, equipment, music, actors, etc. On top of that, the winners can't even keep the movie as their property and Tongal and Fox can do with it whatever they want. The winners
may get a tiny bit of exposure but if they aren't even able to show the video publicly, what chance do they have? This would end up costing the entrants much more than they would gain back.
f**k that.
Quote from: Corporal Hicks on Jul 03, 2018, 07:20:21 AM
So I think today is the deadline for the pitches. Has anyone here entered?
Dammit! I missed this deadline by like 35 min! I saw the post today said 5 hours left at 12pm today, spent all this time writing, then at 4:30, I went to it with all my materials, and the site says they had already moved on! I think with my film exp, crew and story idea I had a real chance and Im very bummed!
I swear to god it said I had until 5pm earlier and then at 4:30 it said they were already in stage 2!
:(
Maybe I can submit my story to Dark Horse or something. Wah.
Quote from: Olde on Jul 03, 2018, 12:52:58 PM
I think this is a horrible scam.
...
f**k that.
Not a scam, a commission.
The way the winners will be contracted, in terms of studio oversight and financing, is a simplified version of a typical Hollywood production... oh wait, you're right. It's a scam ;D
TC
From the Tongal Website
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Lesley Worton Tongal
Thank you all again for your patience as we continue to work to resolve issues with the Tongal website. In the meantime, a big congratulations to the Pitch Qualification Winners who have been selected to move on to the next phase of this project!
David Ferino - The Flight of the Astraea:
An Alien Love Story
Kelsey Taylor - The Greenhouse Effect
Eli Sasich - Alien: Last Survivor of the Nostromo
Claire Africa - Alien: Ore
Jordan DiRisio - The Lesson
Michael Pedaza - The Narcissus
Patrick Ridge - Alien: Alone
Asa Tait - Alien: Father
Patrick Ward - No Escape
Butcher Bird Studios - Awake
Joshua Mabie - Stowaway
Aidan Brezonick - Night Shift
Ian Kammer - Alien: Knock Knock
Confetti Lab - The Janitor's Daughter
Virgile Bage - Omitted
Paige Dowling - Alarm
Justin S. Lee - Alien: Unmanned
Maja Fernqvist - Vessel Nostromo
Congratulations and best of luck to all of them.
Not so keen on the amount of Narcissus and Nostromo I'm seeing, but they could surprise me.
The Alien series has always looked for upcoming talented directors, Ridley, Cameron, Fincher, perhaps this is a new way of finding fresh blood.
Regardless, I hope we will get some good short films out of it. The Alien prequels have a better track record with their virals than the mainline entries so it's not like it would entirely be unheard of.
Please tell me Alien Knock Knock is about Keanu being seduced by two scantily clad xenos. :laugh:
Quote from: KiramidHead on Jul 07, 2018, 04:46:39 AM
Please tell me Alien Knock Knock is about Keanu being seduced by two scantily clad xenos. :laugh:
Only two possibilities leap to mind.
1. Knock Knock
Who's There?
Golic runs at the door and kicks it in
"CIGARETTES!!!"
2. Knock Knock
Who's There
Keanu
Keanu Who?
If you Keanu who I was, you wouldn't open the door. ;)
Quote from: Huggs on Jul 07, 2018, 05:10:50 AM
Quote from: KiramidHead on Jul 07, 2018, 04:46:39 AM
Please tell me Alien Knock Knock is about Keanu being seduced by two scantily clad xenos. :laugh:
Only two possibilities leap to mind.
1. Knock Knock
Who's There?
(Alien Hiss)
"Oh...damn".
2. Knock Knock
Who's There
Keanu
Keanu Who?
If you Keanu who I was, you wouldn't open the door. ;)
"Facehugger with sprinkles, wow!"
Quote from: KiramidHead on Jul 07, 2018, 05:12:49 AM
Quote from: Huggs on Jul 07, 2018, 05:10:50 AM
Quote from: KiramidHead on Jul 07, 2018, 04:46:39 AM
Please tell me Alien Knock Knock is about Keanu being seduced by two scantily clad xenos. :laugh:
Only two possibilities leap to mind.
1. Knock Knock
Who's There?
(Alien Hiss)
"Oh...damn".
2. Knock Knock
Who's There
Keanu
Keanu Who?
If you Keanu who I was, you wouldn't open the door. ;)
"Facehugger with sprinkles, wow!"
Damn, you're too quick. I changed the first joke. The idea of Golic kicking some poor slobs door in was too hard to resist.
Well, being the Doctor and all, I'm sure he's done weirder things.
Quote from: KiramidHead on Jul 07, 2018, 05:15:43 AM
Well, being the octor and all, I'm sure he's done weirder things.
Word has it he once lived in the ceiling of a restaurant for 3 months. Which explains all the eating. Care for some Golic bread?
Some titles I would have liked to see:
Alien: Bonus Situation
Alien: CIGARETTES!!!
Alien: This is Wheat
https://twitter.com/AlienAnthology/status/1022216802733096962?s=19
Sounds like the next round of winners will be announced soon.
The winners haven't been officially announced but one of the people who entered it shared this on FB.
I always thought "The Greenhouse Effect" sounded interesting, glad to see it's on there.
Visceral Content eh?
I'm curious now what all of those pitches that included titles like; Nostromo and Narcissus would have entailed, and the Alien love story. ;D
Alien: Harvest, so based on the comic? Probably not though. I wonder if these movies will be considered semi-canon or what.
Nah, it'll based on the old fake Prometheus script. :P
Winners are officially up!
Patrick Ward, heir to Vincent Ward.
where can we see their pitches?
Aww I wanted to enter this.
Is any of the selected filmmakers member of this forum? I'd love to provide some creature effects for any of the projects :P
I might have to stick to filming my own not-oficially aproved and totally low cost short someday...
Anyways, I see there are a lot of people in this forum who had ideas and motivation for this, maybe we should try to make something even without tongals and fox support.
We could be getting really good or really bad stuff, anyway i will be on the look out.
Many of the best directors and writers started with shorts, (A boy and his bike)- just so long as they aren't CW quality there'll likely be something worthwhile.
I hope these all play out as proof of concepts for new Alien ala Giger inspired film noirs!
I hope it's a diverse body of work from which each short is constructed of several influences.
It would be most disappointing if they were plainly just aping a previous Alien film, most likely the first.
Any idea about what sort of runtime we're looking at with these short films?
Rules say five to nine minutes.
A part of me kind of wanted to enter this, but I knew ahead of time that I would have had no time, but here is what I had in mind to do...
A small family vessel encounters a juggernaut I space, and is boarded. The family is in hypersleep. The family is quickly awoken and overtaken by engineers and some studies begin. A little unnoticed girl escapes and disappears into the small ship. A little time goes by and she is playing as she is discovered by a little engineer girl. They become playmates. Then a big tall engineer adult discovers them both, and a look of kindness crosses his face. He takes the little girl to her parents, wipes the family's memories and puts them back in hypersleep. The engineers leave. The little girl is shown sleeping with the engineer girl's toy. The end.
I was loosely inspired by that outtake scene from Prometheus at the end where the engineer is in vickers' vessel and he looks at the girl playing the violin as if admiring her.
if they do this again... i would love to be involved without becoming a U.S citizen.
Quote from: Wweyland on Jul 27, 2018, 09:45:46 AM
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I wonder if these movies will be considered semi-canon or what.
I doubt it. That would require a whole extra level of story ratification that they don't mention in the competition process. Here is what they have to say about story requirements:
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The goal of this Project is to produce a unique five to nine-minute Short within the universe of the original 1979 Alien film. The contents of your story and Pitch is up to you, but must adhere to the following criteria.
Your STORY must:
¤ Be themed with the science fiction and/or horror genre;
¤ Be tonally in line with the original film – suspenseful, visceral, claustrophobic and intense;
¤ Keep a narrative vantage point centered around the original story;
¤ Introduce original character(s) based in the archetype of the underdog – the everyday working men and women that grounded the film in realism and relatability;ý
¤ Include Alien in some form of its lifecycle (i.e. ovomorph to face hugger, chestburster +/or Xenomorph);
¤ Be for a short video ideally five to nine minutes in length; and
TARGET THE FANS OF THE ALIEN FRANCHISE AGES 17+.
Your PITCH must not:
¤ Use the name/likeness of any actors appearing in the Alien films;
¤ Use the characters from the Alien films; or
¤ Use actual Alien film footage, music or any third party controlled material.
Even though your Pitch must not use characters from the Alien films, your Pitch may reference these characters in dialogue (e.g., "Ash wouldn't have done that...").
Your PITCH AND FINAL VIDEO must be wholly original.
Someone asked for clarificatio n about whether they could base their story on other Alien film; they said no. Alien '79 only.
There was also confusion expressed over the seemingly contradictory requirements of "wholly original", yet based on a "narrative vantage point centered around the original story".
At a guess I'd say "wholly original" means "don't rip off your fav. scene in that Dark Horse comic",
And "narrative vantage point centered around the original story" means they wanted stories that used Alien 79's setting, concepts, events, designs - pretty much everything except the actual characters.
TC
Will these be released online? Hopefully, it is like the Blade Runner 2049 prequel movies which were released on Youtube.
It's $30k per short right? Or is it $30k divvied up to the 6 shorts ($5k per short). Either way I'm really looking forward to seeing these.
Quote from: TC on Jul 28, 2018, 06:26:01 AM
Quote from: Wweyland on Jul 27, 2018, 09:45:46 AM
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I wonder if these movies will be considered semi-canon or what.
I doubt it. That would require a whole extra level of story ratification that they don't mention in the competition process. Here is what they have to say about story requirements:
I wouldn't be so quick to dismiss this. They're 5-10 minute long shorts that are unlikely to have any sort of far reaching continuity implications. It's an officially sanctioned competition being overseen in some capacity by Fox. If anything, I'd say they'd have the same "canon" validity as any other tie-in's that Fox sanctions.
Quote from: Wweyland on Jul 28, 2018, 08:36:39 AM
Will these be released online? Hopefully, it is like the Blade Runner 2049 prequel movies which were released on Youtube.
Unknown but I'd imagine they'll see online release. Personally, I'm hoping Fox'll make some spectacle of them for AlienDay 2019. Cinematic showings in front of or after showings of Alien or some such.
@TC, that is the issue i have with Tongal. The instructions are not very clear. They said you can't use any copyrighted material, but you can mention characters from the film? I entered the contest...didn't win (though would have liked to have received some sort of feedback).
I'd rather just get them when they're finished.
Somebody should make a short called Aliens: Canon and just completely turn the lore upside down for sh!ts and giggles...
I'm talking instantaneous chestburster births post-facehug, David being the Space Jockey, Turk dying in the EEV and not Hicks, Bishop putting an egg on the Sulaco, Charles Weyland being Peter Weyland's dad, etc.
I'd pay to see that parody.
Honestly, I'm really curious about the quality of these short films and I hope we get something interesting.
Looks like I never posted this one here >>
I don't know which of the select pitches is theirs - I suspect it's Alien: Ore - but it looks like they may have wrapped shooting on their pieces.
When are we going to see these?
The whole project should be done with in the first week of February. When they actually release them? We don't know yet.
Alien Day?
I'm excited to see them! What's happening on Alien Day?
Spill some beans Corporal, we got knives, sharp sticks... ;D
Quote from: Necronomicon II on Jan 19, 2019, 02:12:28 PM
Spill some beans Corporal, we got knives, sharp sticks... ;D
Don't forget the nukes, man.
We got sonic, electronic ball-breakers too.
I know some things. This is something I don't know unfortunately. Your guess is as good as mine when it comes to these.
Some things...eh?
Probably be on Alien Day or in May/September for the 40th anniversary of Alien.
Hopefully it inspires Fox/Disney with what can be done with limited budgeting.
If they bring Alien back to theaters for a limited run, they might play these before showings. Different ones each time to get people to come back. Or they may just play them before other fox movies.
Do we know if there were any content restrictions? If so, they could be viewable by teen audiences, thus attached to more films.
Regardless, we'll need to see em' first. They could be terrific or horrific. Cheesy characters might choke to death on a Tylenol during a dutch angle.
I just want to see a practical classic big chap suit God damn it.
Where is Alien Day celebrated? Any fun gatherings for the 40th?!
Practical suits are awesome, but the budgets are super small. Bet no one could get or build a proper suit.
Will like seeing what everyone comes up with though!
Quote from: Huggs on Jan 20, 2019, 04:42:29 AM
If they bring Alien back to theaters for a limited run, they might play these before showings. Different ones each time to get people to come back. Or they may just play them before other fox movies.
I'd been hoping for something like this - a theatrical showing before re-releases of Alien and/or Aliens. But with the 4K re-release in March, I don't think we'll be seeing another showing for Alien Day. Hopefully I'm wrong and we do get a theatrical showing of the shorts. That'd be pretty sweet.
Maybe we could get a practical arm or leg. :D
Quote from: Necronomicon II on Jan 21, 2019, 10:49:38 AM
Maybe we could get a practical arm or leg. :D
Arms and legs are useful, but I think tentacles are much more practical. ;D
I wonder what 3D printers will do for practical effects in the future as they become more prevalent and inexpensive. Imagine the quality and quantity that a prop maker could churn out using nothing but CAD and a 3D printer that used to take hundreds of man-hours to do by hand.
3-D Printing: Alien Covenant.
https://youtu.be/i_kr8mAM5Dg?t=288
That's what I mean. As it gets even more common, the price should drop and it should make production cheaper and more accessible for low-budget movies.
I reckon a talented artist could get a good suit with limited funds, they'd just have to light it correctly and use it sparingly.
You can get decent Alien suits for $3-5k. Since these shorts had about $30k each they could have prioritised them in the budget if they wanted.
Ah, there you go, yeah agreed.
I do really hope they got themselves some decent costumes sorted. I think I'd be pretty disappointed otherwise. It's not outside their means.
Shouldn't be too difficult I'd imagine, seen some impressive cosplay over the years.
Oooh, where do you get descent suits!? Does anyone have a link?
Waiting for news too. Especially since Watch part of Amanda story has been announced.
30k is small for any decent short film. It's extremely small for a film looking for the production value of anything set in the Alien universe. I'm excited to see what they all do!
A decent xenomorph suit is well over 5k and a good chunk of time to make. I am doubtful any of the films will have one (unless they have some awesome connections).
Does anyone here have any film ready xenomorph suits? Would love to see photos if you do!
IMO? Anticipate no Adult Alien.
Pleasantly suprised by that trailer.
And taken down already. Me thinks perhaps a mistake.
Quote from: Corporal Hicks on Mar 13, 2019, 04:01:23 PM
And taken down already. Me thinks perhaps a mistake.
I hope not. I don't think I can handle any more disappointment from Fox in this lifetime
I just meant to release the trailer now.
Also, looks like they had access to that Covenant suit.
Bummer! Didnt get to see it before it was taken down.
I hope they release it again soon.
Gorgeous, concept/storyboard/general artists and Directors' obviously talented.
Damn, I missed it.
What has happened?
Premature trailer release.
Quote from: The Old One on Mar 13, 2019, 05:10:18 PM
Premature trailer release.
Isn't there a pill for that?
:D
This is so 404!
Quote from: Voodoo Magic on Mar 13, 2019, 05:20:20 PM
Quote from: The Old One on Mar 13, 2019, 05:10:18 PM
Premature trailer release.
Isn't there a pill for that?
They come in chewables. One Fred Flintstone can make your "bedrock" all night.
Ooooh hype. Were there any dates of when they'll release these?
Quote from: Huggs on Mar 13, 2019, 05:27:41 PM
Quote from: Voodoo Magic on Mar 13, 2019, 05:20:20 PM
Quote from: The Old One on Mar 13, 2019, 05:10:18 PM
Premature trailer release.
Isn't there a pill for that?
They come in chewables. One Fred Flintstone can make your "bedrock" all night.
Please...
Quote from: Frosty Venom on Mar 13, 2019, 05:33:46 PM
Ooooh hype. Were there any dates of when they'll release these?
I expect sometime in April or May to coincide with Alien Day or the Anniversary.
Did the trailer talk about how they're being distributed?
Not that I saw.
What did the trailer show?
Details via HWR: https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/heat-vision/alien-celebrating-40th-anniversary-6-short-films-1193923
QuoteThe new movies will launch at Emerald City Comic-Con in Seattle this weekend.
As the Alien franchise approaches its 40th anniversary, the legacy of Ellen Ripley continues to evolve and expand, with 20th Century Fox inviting a new generation of filmmakers to play with xenomorphs and other Weyland-Yutani Corporation intellectual property for a series of six online short films.
The six shorts were creators in partnership with Tongal, the online platform connecting brands with online filmmakers to crowdsource new content. More than 550 submissions were received from creators looking for the chance to add to the mythology launched by Ridley Scott's original movie about the doomed Nostromo mission, leading to six final projects offered the keys to the franchise.
The official descriptions of the six shorts, provided by 20th Century Fox, is:
Alien: Alone — Hope, an abandoned crew member aboard the derelict chemical hauler Otranto, has spent a year trying to keep her ship and herself alive as both slowly fall apart. After discovering hidden cargo, she risks it all to power up the broken ship in search of human life. Written and directed by Noah Miller.
Alien: Containment — Four survivors find themselves stranded aboard a small escape pod in deep space. Trying to piece together the details around the outbreak that led to their ship's destruction, they find themselves unsure to trust whether or not one of them might be infected. Written and directed by Chris Reading.
Alien: Harvest — The surviving crew of a damaged deep-space harvester have minutes to reach the emergency evacuation shuttle. A motion sensor is their only navigation tool leading them to safety while a creature in the shadows terrorizes the crew. However, the greatest threat might have been hiding in plain sight all along. directed by Benjamin Howdeshell.
Alien: Night Shift: — When a missing space trucker is discovered hungover and disoriented, his co-worker suggests a nightcap as a remedy. Near closing time, they are reluctantly allowed inside the colony supply depot where the trucker's condition worsens, leaving a young supply worker alone to take matters into her own hands. Written and directed by Aidan Breznick.
Alien: Ore — As a hard-working miner of a planet mining colony, Lorraine longs to make a better life for her daughter and grandchildren. When her shift uncovers the death of a fellow miner under mysterious circumstances, Lorraine is forced to choose between escape or defying management orders and facing her fears to fight for the safety of her family. Written and directed by the Spear Sisters.
Alien: Specimen — It's the night shift in a colony greenhouse, and Julie, a botanist, does her best to contain suspicious soil samples that have triggered her sensitive lab dog. Despite her best efforts the lab unexpectedly goes into full shutdown and she is trapped inside. Little does she know, an Alien specimen has escaped the mysterious cargo, and a game of cat and mouse ensues as the creature searches for a host. Written and directed by Kelsey Taylor.
"This partnership with Fox is really reflective of Tongal's mission to bring creative opportunities to the next generation of talent," Tongal Co-Founder and CEO James DeJulio said in a statement. "Being able to give filmmakers everywhere the chance to make their mark on an iconic franchise and extend the Alien narrative was really special for us and everyone involved. And the superfans delivered in a big way. We can't wait for the fans to see what they've created—because at the end of the day, it was made for them."
The shorts will be released weekly online by the entertainment site IGN beginning March 29, before being added to AlienUniverse.com and the @AlienAnthology social media channels alongside exclusive behind-the-scenes content starting May 5. However, the official debut of the project comes at this week's Emerald City Comic-Con in Seattle, Washington, where a selection of material from the project will be screened on March 15, with an additional screening at C2E2 in Chicago March 23.
And now the trailer is up.
Why pull it if you're just going to put it back up a few hours later?
Likely to coincide with the Hollywood Reporter article. It was probably just a mistake.
Nice. It looks decent.
Looks like the Odd Studio Covenant Alien at the end there. Funny that they went with that, seeing as the rules established that everything was supposed to be completely based on the original film and not any of the followups.
Hmm. Well I'm hopeful.
Quote from: Nightmare Asylum on Mar 13, 2019, 07:14:56 PM
Looks like the Odd Studio Covenant Alien at the end there. Funny that they went with that, seeing as the rules established that everything was supposed to be completely based on the original film and not any of the followups.
I reckon the studio probably provided the suit.
Looks like it could go either way.
Overjoyed to finally witness the finished films.
Spoiler
I storyboarded for Alien Containment.
;D
Quote from: Corporal Hicks on Mar 13, 2019, 07:17:50 PM
Quote from: Nightmare Asylum on Mar 13, 2019, 07:14:56 PM
Looks like the Odd Studio Covenant Alien at the end there. Funny that they went with that, seeing as the rules established that everything was supposed to be completely based on the original film and not any of the followups.
I reckon the studio probably provided the suit.
Yup yup, exactly what I thought. Would have been nice to see something resembling the Giger Alien (since the
Covenant version is very specific to that film's point in the timeline) but it is cool that they at least had a film-quality suit to work with for these.
I'm curious about how this whole project pans out. I do really like the idea of them giving indie filmmakers a shot at doing this. Trailer didn't "wow" me but it definitely has me interested and I will be checking out each one with an open mind for sure; hoping for some cool little projects here.
I was quite open to this but I wasn't too sure what to expect from them. I'm pleasantly surprised at how well shot these look. I'm still a little hesitant about some of the creature effects but I'm very eager to see the finished products.
Quote from: The Old One on Mar 13, 2019, 07:20:20 PM
Overjoyed to finally witness the finished films.
Spoiler
I storyboarded Alien Containment.
;D
And that is so freaking cool. Seriously, congratulations! You made a stamp on an official product!
Quote from: Nightmare Asylum on Mar 13, 2019, 07:21:15 PM
Yup yup, exactly what I thought. Would have been nice to see something resembling the Giger Alien (since the Covenant version is very specific to that film's point in the timeline) but it is cool that they at least had a film-quality suit to work with for these.
Considering how rooted in Alien this has all been, yeah, it would have been sweet to see a more Giger-esque suit. But they'd got a theatrical quality suit easily available, so I guess I wont complain. Gives them a more expensive look depending on how well they've used it.
The film's Covenant's suit is absent.
A variation of the design is present though.
Quote from: The Old One on Mar 13, 2019, 07:20:20 PM
Overjoyed to finally witness the finished films.
Spoiler
I storyboarded Alien Containment.
;D
You are now official canon. ;)
Seriously though, congratulations. That is immensely cool.
Thank you. I'm lucky. ;D
A lucky star.
Quote from: The Old One on Mar 13, 2019, 07:20:20 PM
Overjoyed to finally witness the finished films.
Spoiler
I storyboarded Alien Containment.
;D
Wow, very cool Old One! Will you be sharing those with us at some point, I hope?
20th Century Fox's decision.
You should storyboard TCF next.
Quote from: The Old One on Mar 13, 2019, 07:49:00 PM
Depends on 20th Century Fox.
Gotcha. So very cool!
Spoiler
Did you add spinners? ;)
Those short films will be canon? When do they take place?
Next time! ;D
Congrats on the gig, Old One! Have you gotten a chance to see your work translated on screen yet, or are you as in the dark as the rest of us?
Quote from: Samhain13 on Mar 13, 2019, 07:53:10 PM
Those short films will be canon? When do they take place?
As per the original Tongal description, I believe they're supposed to be set around the time of
Alien. The design, character references, etc. were all limited solely to the original film (which is why I was pretty shocked when they went with the
Covenant Alien reference suit but, like Hicks said, Fox must have had it on standby and lent it out to each film).
No, no preview.
Quote from: Nightmare Asylum on Mar 13, 2019, 07:55:39 PM
As per the original Tongal description, I believe they're supposed to be set around the time of Alien. The design, character references, etc. were all limited solely to the original film (which is why I was pretty shocked when they went with the Covenant Alien reference suit but, like Hicks said, Fox must have had it on standby and lent it out to each film).
Meaning around 2122? Hmm wonder if they will try to tie anything on it to other material and where the alien on these stories come from.
Really looking forward to seeing what comes of these.
Quote from: Samhain13 on Mar 13, 2019, 08:03:39 PM
Quote from: Nightmare Asylum on Mar 13, 2019, 07:55:39 PM
As per the original Tongal description, I believe they're supposed to be set around the time of Alien. The design, character references, etc. were all limited solely to the original film (which is why I was pretty shocked when they went with the Covenant Alien reference suit but, like Hicks said, Fox must have had it on standby and lent it out to each film).
Meaning around 2122? Hmm wonder if they will try to tie anything on it to other material and where the alien on these stories come from.
They way I see it, I'm more interested in the shorts as examples of what these filmmakers can do and as their individual takes on the Alien universe (within the realms of the restrictions they had to work in, of course) more so than I am in them as hard "canon."
^ This.
Quote from: HuDaFuK on Mar 13, 2019, 08:30:27 PM
^ This.
Seconded. Can't wait to see what these teams will do!
Also, Belatedly, Congrats
Old One! Defiantly something to be proud of.
They need to succeed. I want to see them bring the house down and show fox how its done.
Very promising so far. New blood is coming! :)
Hoping Old One storyboarded the Xeno to do some crab-walk.
I just love me some crab-walk!
(https://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FejDuX.gif&hash=f81b5085e96fdf25c8d1604e8a034f5e2a22e8ae)
No spoilers! :laugh:
Quote from: Voodoo Magic on Mar 13, 2019, 09:33:50 PM
Hoping Old One storyboarded the Xeno to do some crab-walk.
I just love me some crab-walk!
http://i.imgur.com/ejDuX.gif
I hate the crab walk! I can see why they excised it. It's so goofy looking and so obviously a man in a suit.
It also reminds me of playing this weird game with a huge beach ball in gym class in elementary school. Where everyone was forced to crab walk and kick while crab walking.
Congrats Old One! That's a huge coup!
Really looking forward to seeing your film. All the films.
Old One that is awesome news. Congratulations.
Bravo Old One! I can't imagine how awesome it must feel to know you left your mark on an official Alien in universe product.
And I'm really liking the trailer.
TY all. ;D
I hope you enjoy the film. I hope the film's good! lol
I expect it to be comprehensive.
Nu-uh! Ambiguous! ;)
Quote from: Corporal Hicks on Mar 13, 2019, 07:03:39 PM
Likely to coincide with the Hollywood Reporter article. It was probably just a mistake.
I'm sure, it just seemed goofy to yank it when it's so close to the intended reveal anyway.
Anyway, these are looking pretty good. The only thing that slightly waters down my excitement is how static the Covenant xeno's face looks in that clip. I got the impression that the suit was made as a stand-in with the intent of completely covering it with CGI.
And congrats to Old One. That's awesome.
The suit's a surprise indeed.
&
https://www.digitalspy.com/movies/a26816814/alien-short-films-40th-anniversary-trailer/
Congratulations, Old One! That is so awesome. Can't wait to watch these shorts.
Quote from: The Old One on Mar 13, 2019, 07:38:35 PM
The film's Covenant's suit is absent.
A variation of the design is present though.
I realize I was not involved and you were but respectfully... The suit is clearly the removed-from-the-film Odd Studio suit created for Covenant. It has the exactly same face/mouth and floating/blank space shoulder arches. I mean it IS the suit we have seen on the James Corden show, on the Covenant BTS videos and on the weird marketing video for Alien Blackout.
This suit:
Example 1: https://twitter.com/avpgalaxy/status/939905309073657861
Example 2: https://i.pinimg.com/originals/cd/34/d5/cd34d537298f0dffbfcfa999303d46a7.jpg
Example 3: https://monsterlegacy.files.wordpress.com/2017/09/aliencovaliencovalienset.jpg?w=788
Example 4: (Alien blackout marketing reusing this suit): https://youtu.be/ta1dPhOCfwI?t=172
Example 5: (James Corden Alien Covenant Marketing): https://youtu.be/l9YlatOiGnU?t=135
She means that the suit wasn't actually featured in the finished film, Jenga. It's a "technically, she's correct" thing.
Quote from: David's Creation on Mar 14, 2019, 02:25:00 AM
Anyway, these are looking pretty good. The only thing that slightly waters down my excitement is how static the Covenant xeno's face looks in that clip. I got the impression that the suit was made as a stand-in with the intent of completely covering it with CGI.
That's because it's not a hero head. We've known for some time that all the suits were done with the knowledge that a lot of them would be removed and replaced with the CGI Alien. I know Odd Studio talked about this particular suit when it first showed up on Corden's show and I'm trying to find the quote now.
Got it, it was something Adam told me in chat and I mentioned in the post. It was a stunt suit.
WOW! Looks beautiful!
So Bill Paxton's son is in one of the shorts, Alien: Alone.
That's pretty f**king cool.
Ohhh that's pretty cool. Haven't seen him in anything before, but it is really nice to have him involved nonetheless.
Quote from: Corporal Hicks on Mar 14, 2019, 10:06:52 AM
So Bill Paxton's son is in one of the shorts, Alien: Alone.
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">6 BRAND NEW ALIEN SHORT FILMS: I co-star in one called Alien: Alone with Taylor Lyons, written & dir. by Noah Miller. Produced by my love <a href="https://twitter.com/Hope_Mac_Photos?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@Hope_Mac_Photos</a> check out the teaser! <a href="https://t.co/dphS6pjH3A">https://t.co/dphS6pjH3A</a></p>— James Paxton (@jamespaxtonyo) <a href="https://twitter.com/jamespaxtonyo/status/1105989695530385408?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">March 14, 2019</a></blockquote>
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That's pretty f**king cool.
No way!!!
(https://media.giphy.com/media/3MGvl1TtEDuaQ/giphy.gif)
These look great. Really looking forward to them :)
Class news about Paxton, Jr.
Congrats Old one,so cool to see and fun seeing one of the most badass users from this forum being in this. :D Did you get to direct or give input on the filming and such or just the idea/story and screen play? :)
Visual ideas, the majority- beneath Chris Reading's fantastic Direction.
Quote from: Corporal Hicks on Mar 14, 2019, 10:06:52 AM
So Bill Paxton's son is in one of the shorts, Alien: Alone.
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">6 BRAND NEW ALIEN SHORT FILMS: I co-star in one called Alien: Alone with Taylor Lyons, written & dir. by Noah Miller. Produced by my love <a href="https://twitter.com/Hope_Mac_Photos?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@Hope_Mac_Photos</a> check out the teaser! <a href="https://t.co/dphS6pjH3A">https://t.co/dphS6pjH3A</a></p>— James Paxton (@jamespaxtonyo) <a href="https://twitter.com/jamespaxtonyo/status/1105989695530385408?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">March 14, 2019</a></blockquote>
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That's pretty f**king cool.
Whoa! Love that.
Meh, not holding my breath for these. I like the names of the shorts they are intriguing. But this wreaks of stories build around bells and whistles(the cliches people think of when they think of Alien movies).
We shall see if they have any real substance or end up losing any originality to playing homage and fan pandering like the bumkamp movie would have been.
Quote from: Corporal Hicks on Mar 14, 2019, 08:08:03 AM
She means that the suit wasn't actually featured in the finished film, Jenga. It's a "technically, she's correct" thing.
Quote from: David's Creation on Mar 14, 2019, 02:25:00 AM
Anyway, these are looking pretty good. The only thing that slightly waters down my excitement is how static the Covenant xeno's face looks in that clip. I got the impression that the suit was made as a stand-in with the intent of completely covering it with CGI.
That's because it's not a hero head. We've known for some time that all the suits were done with the knowledge that a lot of them would be removed and replaced with the CGI Alien. I know Odd Studio talked about this particular suit when it first showed up on Corden's show and I'm trying to find the quote now.
Got it, it was something Adam told me in chat and I mentioned in the post. It was a stunt suit.
It's just semantics at this point but there are no suits in the movie any longer so if she said essentially 'it's not the suit used in the movie...well yes it is" but you are also completely right that they removed.
BTW: thank you for the detail about the stunt suit. I Was confused as to why there is clearly one suit that looks much more sculpturally "built out" where the outline of the performer looks like an alien:
This one looks more three dimensional: https://i.pinimg.com/originals/cd/34/d5/cd34d537298f0dffbfcfa999303d46a7.jpg
and one that clearly does not https://monsterlegacy.files.wordpress.com/2017/09/aliencovaliencovalienset.jpg?w=788.
Maybe the latter is the stunt suit they were talking about that was loaned out for this project.
Suit stuff doesn't look good eek not sure about these yet
Not sure what people are expecting, these are micro budgets.
These look great considering.
The suit looks fine. It's just not a hero suit so you're not going to get any snarling slow mouth opens. It's just about how they used it. From what we've seen so far the shorts look pretty good. Just hoping the whole things do! But I'm feeling pretty hopeful.
https://yutani.studio/2019/03/14/alien-40th-anniversary-short-films-trailer/
Bit of behind-the-scenes stalking from Clara.
"Ridge Production" wouldn't have anything to do with our own RidgeTop, would it?
Not unless he's been keeping secrets from me.
Quote from: 426Buddy on Mar 15, 2019, 12:46:50 AM
Not sure what people are expecting, these are micro budgets.
These look great considering.
$36,000 US each. Small, for a professional job, but it looks to me like
Alien: Containment spent their money where it counts most in low budget production: art direction (set builds, costume, and props).
You can hire your fancy Arri Alexa and all the swish camera gear you like but if you want good looking images you gotta give your cinematographer a fighting chance and give him/her something decent to photograph.
TC
Quote from: Corporal Hicks on Mar 15, 2019, 08:38:40 AM
The suit looks fine. It's just not a hero suit so you're not going to get any snarling slow mouth opens. It's just about how they used it. From what we've seen so far the shorts look pretty good. Just hoping the whole things do! But I'm feeling pretty hopeful.
That's where I'm at with these. Hopeful. My favorite is already Alien: Containment because... you know... but a lot can be done with that suit. In my opinion, It's all ultimately going to live or die on the direction, acting, cinematography and to a lesser extent, story for these shorts.
Quite excited about these! Way to go Old One! I'm pleasantly surprised that this is releasing before Alien Day. I've said it before but it's a great time to be a fan of the franchise!
I think they'll be fun. Looking forward to them.
It should cost to much to make good sets and costumes as long as they get talented artists, pluse I doubt the actors will get much pay. If they only pay s few 100 for the actors and get slot of volunteers. They wilk have a lot to use on the visuals.
Just fyi hicks, you got a couple of errors in that first sentence.
"Short films based set within the alien films"
I wouldn't mention it, but it's on the main page and it kind of jumps out at ya.
"short films set within the Alien universe" ;)
Congratulations on storyboarding The Old One! That's amazing :)
Quote from: brokentusk420 on Mar 14, 2019, 10:24:51 PM
Meh, not holding my breath for these. I like the names of the shorts they are intriguing. But this wreaks of stories build around bells and whistles(the cliches people think of when they think of Alien movies).
We shall see if they have any real substance or end up losing any originality to playing homage and fan pandering like the bumkamp movie would have been.
Yeah, but we will see, stories are all about the script, i will remain optimistic until i see them. Pretty obvious too that this is just a test to see what they do with the franchise.
Quote from: D88M on Mar 16, 2019, 03:59:27 AM
stories are all about the script
I need this on a t-shirt. ;D
When are these meant to be getting released?
Quote from: Frosty Venom on Mar 16, 2019, 07:35:47 AM
When are these meant to be getting released?
One per week starting on March 29th.
Early reports out of the con are that the four they screened are decent.
Really looking forward to these! I thought the shots in the trailer looked very well done for the budget they were working with. Good catch to those that picked up on the Covenant Xeno suit being used, and it makes sense if it was at hand rather than creating a brand new Giger-esque suit.
Sadly due to budgetary constraints certain liberties had to be taken with the Alien Queen and Ripley actress.
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/D1uro1VUkAEFTaE.jpg)
#Alien40th #eccc
:laugh:
Good news!
I hope those shorts are better than that poster.
The poster's the AvA
Alien Versus Annihilation 4K Blu-ray Art. :-X
When you drew the storyboards portraying scenes with the alien...did you make the skull visible?
No.
;D
No Alien, but a afloat phallic skull.
>:(
Perfect organism.
False and incorrect!
Also my boy RidgeTop should be seeing these all (his) tonight at a special screening at Fox. I should also be getting a screener of them all so depending on embargos and stuff, we'll get some review stuff up soon.
Nice, look forward to hearing some reviews.
I'm so looking forward to seeing these!
You're looking forward to Alien: Containment most of all.
Welp I totally read the initial article wrong and was under the impression that the March date was when these were starting, not the date of another Convention screening. I was fully prepared to be watching the first of the shorts this week. :D
Quote from: Voodoo Magic on Mar 26, 2019, 12:24:11 PM
You're looking forward to Alien: Containment most of all.
Aye-firmative
Quote from: Nightmare Asylum on Mar 26, 2019, 12:58:59 PM
Welp I totally read the initial article wrong and was under the impression that the March date was when these were starting, not the date of another Convention screening. I was fully prepared to be watching the first of the shorts this week. :D
The first one should be up on Friday, NA.
Quote from: Corporal Hicks on Mar 26, 2019, 01:18:25 PM
Quote from: Nightmare Asylum on Mar 26, 2019, 12:58:59 PM
Welp I totally read the initial article wrong and was under the impression that the March date was when these were starting, not the date of another Convention screening. I was fully prepared to be watching the first of the shorts this week. :D
The first one should be up on Friday, NA.
Oh... then I just read something wrong this morning then. :D
I need to go back to bed, methinks.
Can't wait.
The trailers looked great already.
I know the first one drops Friday, but does anyone know what sort of time?
I imagine around our evening.
Awesome!
What's the run time on these shorts?
I believe about 10-15 minutes each.
Will they actually be posted online? I was having this dread of having to by another Alien Blu-ray
Quote from: Perfect-Organism on Mar 27, 2019, 06:27:12 PM
Will they actually be posted online? I was having this dread of having to by another Alien Blu-ray
I'd buy them on Blu-ray if they turn out to be good.
They're going online on IGN, one week at a time, and then they're going on Alien Universe.
Quote from: BountyHunter on Mar 27, 2019, 05:57:46 PM
What's the run time on these shorts?
I'm just hoping they give me the runs in my shorts.
As in...scary?
Yeah, let's go with that.
I can see the taglines now.
"Wild, Exhilarating, Shite Inducing Entertainment"
The last two threads I've checked on this site have both deteriorated badly :laugh:
And yet I wasn't involved.
Pretty exciting i'll say.
Is it me or RidgeTop's coment feels kinda cold and unimpresed?
The quality is much better than I thought it would be.
Most likely, the teams putting these films together are putting their own money into them. 30K is negligible for this type of project. That is not the real reward here. The real reward is the exposure that these films will get the crew and all involved. These people are going all out...
AN ADVANCE LOOK AT THE 'ALIEN' 40TH ANNIVERSARY SHORTS PROVES IT'S TIME FOR A FEMALE DIRECTOR TO HELM THE FRANCHISE (http://fanbasepress.com/index.php/press/reviews/item/9809-an-advance-look-at-the-alien-40th-anniversary-shorts-proves-it-s-time-for-a-female-director-to-helm-the-franchise)
QuoteFanbase Press was lucky enough to be invited to the Twentieth Century Fox Studio Lot for an advance screening of all six Alien shorts followed by an IGN panel discussion with the filmmakers behind these new contributions to the franchises' mythos. While even the casual Alien fan will definitely want to check out these binge-worthy mini-movies themselves upon release, below are some initial reactions to these Alien 40th Anniversary Shorts, followed by a short, spoiler-free synopsis of each film in order to whet your appetite.
And he included something at the end that I thought was supposed to be off-the-record but it's out there now...
QuoteAs mentioned previously, the Alien 40th Anniversary Shorts will be released weekly on IGN, starting on March 29th. Beginning on May 3rd, they will be available on the official @AlienAnthology social channels and AlienUniverse.com, along with exclusive behind-the-scenes content. Additional, Fanbase Press received confirmation from some of the filmmakers that the shorts will also be included as bonus content on the Alien 40th Anniversary Blu-ray.
Fantastic news, physical media FTW.
Awesome! I wasn't planning to get the 40th blu-ray unless it included these shorts.
Pre-ordering that steelbook to avoid the ugly shiney alien.
On the one hand, really glad these are getting a physical release!
On the other, annoyed because I'm gonna have to buy Alien yet again and I don't have a 4K player :P
SOLD!! Just preordered the steel book 👌👌👌
That is great news! I think I might wait to my Steelbook arrives now before I watch these.
Also congrats to @TheOldOne too for your part in all of this.
Can't wait to watch these.
I was hoping these would get an official physical media release, so more incentive to pick up the 4K UHD disc :)
I don't have a 4K player either, but this will be about the fifth 4K blu-ray I'll own. They always come packaged with a standard blu-ray. I just hope the short films are on the standard blu disc too.
I am a tad concerned that I don't see these shorts on any lists of special features. If this turns out to be false, I'm cancelling my pre-order.
Understandable.
When packaged together, it's been my experience that the 4K disc doesn't contain the bonus content other than audio commentaries. It contains just the 4K movie itself.
The standard blu-ray that accompanies it is what contains the bonus features
Quote from: Voodoo Magic on Mar 28, 2019, 12:32:40 PM
When packaged together, it's been my experience that the 4K disc doesn't contain the bonus content other than audio commentaries. It contains just the 4K movie itself.
The standard blu-ray that accompanies it is what contains the bonus features
Yeah thats what ive seen too. Its like they piggy back on blu-ray lol
Is there a space issue on the 4K disc I wonder? I ask with no authority on the matter.
Quote from: Perfect-Organism on Mar 28, 2019, 03:37:26 AM
...
Most likely, the teams putting these films together are putting their own money into them.
...
Quite likely, as in: cast and crew working for low pay or no pay. Which is a way of saying, "putting their own money into (the films)."
In spite of the low budgets, these are, after all, professional productions. Money gets prioritised for spending on cash items - that means materials and equipment hire. (And craft services :D )
Wages go to the bottom of the list.
Quote from: Perfect-Organism on Mar 28, 2019, 03:37:26 AM
... The real reward is the exposure that these films will get the crew and all involved. ...
Yes. Certain cast and crew will get something significant to boast about on their resumes. How much of a career boost the generator operator will get in return for foregoing a decent day's wage is, well, debatable.
TC
Yo FOX. I know you're reading this. I'm not buying another thing from this franchise until you make a sequel to Alien Covenant.
Quote from: irn on Mar 28, 2019, 03:12:46 PM
Yo FOX. I know you're reading this. I'm not buying another thing from this franchise until you make a sequel to Alien Covenant.
Yo FOX. I know you're reading this. I'm not buying another thing from this franchise if you make a sequel to Alien Covenant.
;D
Quote from: David's Creation on Mar 28, 2019, 11:00:55 AMI am a tad concerned that I don't see these shorts on any lists of special features. If this turns out to be false, I'm cancelling my pre-order.
I haven't seen any special features listed anywhere for this release. I certainly haven't seen any official word about them, and I wouldn't put too much faith in anything until we either get that or it actually comes out and people can see for themselves.
Although it has to be said it seems this talk of them being on the 4K release comes solely from the directors rather than the people actually producing the Blu-rays.
Quote from: Voodoo Magic on Mar 28, 2019, 12:32:40 PMWhen packaged together, it's been my experience that the 4K disc doesn't contain the bonus content other than audio commentaries. It contains just the 4K movie itself.
The standard blu-ray that accompanies it is what contains the bonus features.
Yeah, this.
I'm hoping its the case here because otherwise I'm gonna have to start saving for a 4K player and TV!
Red band trailer and release order.
QuoteMarch 29th: ALIEN: Containment -Four survivors find themselves stranded aboard a small escape pod in deep space. Trying to piece together the details around the outbreak that led to their ship's destruction, they find themselves unsure to trust whether or not one of them might be infected. Written and Directed by Chris Reading
April 5th: ALIEN: Specimen - It's the night shift in a colony greenhouse, and Julie, a botanist, does her best to contain suspicious soil samples that have triggered her sensitive lab dog. Despite her best efforts the lab unexpectedly goes into full shutdown and she is trapped inside. Little does she know, an alien specimen has escaped the mysterious cargo, and a game of cat and mouse ensues as the creature searches for a host. Directed by Kelsey Taylor
April 12th: ALIEN: Night Shift -When a missing space trucker is discovered hungover and disoriented, his co-worker suggests a nightcap as a remedy. Near closing time, they are reluctantly allowed inside the colony supply depot where the trucker's condition worsens, leaving a young supply worker alone to take matters into her own hands. Written and Directed by Aidan Brezonick
April 19th: ALIEN: Ore - As a hard-working miner of a planet mining colony, Lorraine longs to make a better life for her daughter and grandchildren. When her shift uncovers the death of a fellow miner under mysterious circumstances, Lorraine is forced to choose between escape or defying management orders and facing her fears to fight for the safety of her family. Written and Directed by the Spear Sisters
April 26th: ALIEN: Harvest - The surviving crew of a damaged deep-space harvester have minutes to reach the emergency evacuation shuttle. A motion sensor is their only navigation tool leading them to safety while a creature in the shadows terrorizes the crew. However, the greatest threat might have been hiding in plain sight all along. Directed by Benjamin Howdeshell
April 26th: ALIEN: Alone - Hope, an abandoned crew member aboard the derelict chemical hauler Otranto, has spent a year trying to keep her ship and herself alive as both slowly fall apart. After discovering hidden cargo, she risks it all to power up the broken ship in search of human life. Written and Directed by Noah Miller
They'll be going up at 9am PST which is 4pm GMT, 5pm BST after the weekend.
Trailer is looking pretty solid. Can't wait to watch Containment tomorrow.
This looks so much better already than I expected! The visuals are really making me impatient to see this.
What the hell hand on 20 sec?!
Looks like it's a facehugger.
Definitely a facehugger. Leg digits look a bit stiff, so they probably didn't have a prop that is super articulated. But it is also worth noting that the shot is only about a second long and appears to be the person pushing it away from their face, so the legs in a bit of a fixed position reaching back out towards the face makes sense there.
Well, or this facehugger have only 6 "fingers"(legs) or... Well, alien hand have 6 fingers.
Looks lame. These kids dont understand the differance between suspense and gore.
Quote from: Jaytrix on Mar 28, 2019, 08:12:15 PM
Looks lame. These kids dont understand the differance between suspense and gore.
Quality vs Exposure.
I'd prefer to have both.
Quote from: Jaytrix on Mar 28, 2019, 08:12:15 PM
Looks lame. These kids dont understand the differance between suspense and gore.
Big assumption for a couple of quick-cut teasers.
Excited.
These look really promising.
I'm buying diapers in preparation.
Looking good.
I see one or two negatives posts already.
How about some perspective on the resources made available to these creators.
I'm genuinely excited for these and what the future may hold as far as this opening doors.
Quote from: Local Trouble on Mar 28, 2019, 11:57:40 PM
I'm buying diapers in preparation.
We wouldn't want you shirt-c**king it.
Quote from: Local Trouble on Mar 28, 2019, 11:57:40 PM
I'm buying diapers in preparation.
Are you that excited?
I want to believe.
That facehugger looks like something you could buy at wallmart. They are gonna suck. ::)
Quote from: Local Trouble on Mar 29, 2019, 03:37:52 AM
I want to believe.
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I just finished watching them all. Out of all of them, there was only one I actively wasn't into and that was Night Shift. The rest were all damn solid with something going for them in each short. The most well-rounded IMHO were Alone, Ore (some f**king awesome creature movement in this one) and Specimen, with Alone probably being my favourite.
Mikey, RidgeTop and I will be recording a podcast later tonight for release next week and I'll start working on a written review too.
Also, please note, each short will get its own thread so I'll be locking this one down just before Containment goes online. But feel free to keep posting here until then. :)
Glad to hear you thought they were pretty cool overall! Can't wait to watch.
Quote from: Corporal Hicks on Mar 29, 2019, 07:03:10 AM
I just finished watching them all. Out of all of them, there was only one I actively wasn't into and that was Night Shift. The rest were all damn solid with something going for them in each short. The most well-rounded IMHO were Alone, Ore (some f**king awesome creature movement in this one) and Specimen, with Alone probably being my favourite.
Officially excited now.
What are the approximate running times?
Quote from: Corporal Hicks on Mar 29, 2019, 07:03:10 AM
I just finished watching them all.
Did you have any accidents?
You know what, Harvest was damn cool too. Harvest, Alone, Ore and Specimen were all really good.
Quote from: TheBATMAN on Mar 29, 2019, 02:34:36 PM
What are the approximate running times?
About 10 minutes apiece.
The first one is up on IGN now.
https://www.ign.com/videos/2019/03/29/alien-40th-anniversary-short-film-containment
That was a fun lil short. Not bad at all :)
Reopening this as a catch-all.
Shouldn't the alien's teeth be shiny?
Do they brush regularly?
Quote from: Local Trouble on Mar 31, 2019, 10:12:36 PM
Shouldn't the alien's teeth be shiny?
Maybe he's been eating some of that arturian poontang.
https://www.syfy.com/syfywire/two-alien-short-films-channel-the-spirit-of-ripley-at-wondercon?amp&__twitter_impression=true
Quote from: Corporal Hicks on Mar 29, 2019, 07:03:10 AMI just finished watching them all. Out of all of them, there was only one I actively wasn't into and that was Night Shift. The rest were all damn solid with something going for them in each short. The most well-rounded IMHO were Alone, Ore (some f**king awesome creature movement in this one) and Specimen, with Alone probably being my favourite.
Typically, internet was down over the weekend so I've not watched the first one yet. Glad to hear you enjoyed them almost across the board though.
Alone being my favorite is going to be a bit of a controversial choice, though, I think. I'll be really curious to see what others think of that one when it comes out.
No offense, but one per week is too damn slow. I don't really see the point of it.
One a day, maybe.
Anticipation. Like ketchup, making you wait ;D Maybe some social media head has a theory about clicks or something.
Anyone remember when you had to wait for new episodes of TV shows once per week?
Those were 30-60 minute shows, and what stunk then stinks today ;D
When something is already done, especially a 10 minute short to be released online, I don't see the harm with 24 hour Windows.
10 minutes per week?
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Why blow their load all at once? They generate more ongoing discussion by spreading out the release than by dumping it all at once.
Quote from: SiL on Apr 01, 2019, 10:42:22 PM
Why blow their load all at once? They generate more ongoing discussion by spreading out the release than by dumping it all at once.
6 days is all at once?
The schedule is just fine.
But yah, those days of having to wait an entire week for an episode kinda sucked.
Quote from: Huggs on Apr 01, 2019, 10:45:27 PM
Quote from: SiL on Apr 01, 2019, 10:42:22 PM
Why blow their load all at once? They generate more ongoing discussion by spreading out the release than by dumping it all at once.
6 days is all at once?
Yes. All the conversation is generated in one week long dump and fizzles out soon after. This is how the internet do. By spreading that over 6 weeks they keep the conversation alive and trending for a month and a half, which is much more valuable for online content and also keeps the audience engaged.
Quote from: Corporal Hicks on Apr 01, 2019, 10:21:33 PM
Anyone remember when you had to wait for new episodes of TV shows once per week?
In my day... :P
I actually agree with your points Huggs but after Isolation's series, I think spacing things out, little by little on a regular basis might be a fun change pace. I kinda like the one per week model right now.
April Fools
Y'all made that way too easy. :laugh:
What? Where? Normally April Fools involves, I dunno, fooling people ???
Oh I get it! Well done Huggs! That was a good one! :laugh:
Quote from: Perfect-Organism on Apr 01, 2019, 10:47:23 PM
The schedule is just fine.
But yah, those days of having to wait an entire week for an episode kinda sucked.
I mean, I still prefer that to be honest. Gives me more time to mull over what I watched, to speculate about what's to come, and to enjoy each episode as it's own piece. Better Call Saul has been an obsession of mine the last four years, and I cannot imagine watching it all in one sitting for a first viewing.
Sometimes I wish Netflix would slow down and release some of their shows weekly as opposed to entire seasons at a time.
They do that for some new released, don't they?
Quote from: SiL on Apr 02, 2019, 01:20:52 AM
They do that for some new released, don't they?
I don't think Netflix has ever spread a season out, to my knowledge. Some of the other streaming platforms do, however.
I seem to remember an article about Netflix releasing the first season of the punisher all at once "to encourage binge watching", as they put it.
Quote from: Nightmare Asylum on Apr 02, 2019, 01:22:15 AM
Quote from: SiL on Apr 02, 2019, 01:20:52 AM
They do that for some new released, don't they?
I don't think Netflix has ever spread a season out, to my knowledge. Some of the other streaming platforms do, however.
I looked it up; they do weekly releases on new shows that are also airing on TV so as not to violate broadcasting rights (such as Better Call Saul).
Quote from: SiL on Apr 02, 2019, 01:36:44 AM
Quote from: Nightmare Asylum on Apr 02, 2019, 01:22:15 AM
Quote from: SiL on Apr 02, 2019, 01:20:52 AM
They do that for some new released, don't they?
I don't think Netflix has ever spread a season out, to my knowledge. Some of the other streaming platforms do, however.
I looked it up; they do weekly releases on new shows that are also airing on TV so as not to violate broadcasting rights (such as Better Call Saul).
Ahh, yeah, I forgot they have the international rights for BCS. Similar to Annihilation last year, which was a theatrical release in the US but went straight to Netflix everywhere else.
Anything Netflix does in-house all gets dumped on their platform all in one go, however.
Quote from: Nightmare Asylum on Apr 02, 2019, 01:12:43 AM
Quote from: Perfect-Organism on Apr 01, 2019, 10:47:23 PM
The schedule is just fine.
But yah, those days of having to wait an entire week for an episode kinda sucked.
I mean, I still prefer that to be honest. Gives me more time to mull over what I watched, to speculate about what's to come, and to enjoy each episode as it's own piece. Better Call Saul has been an obsession of mine the last four years, and I cannot imagine watching it all in one sitting for a first viewing.
Sometimes I wish Netflix would slow down and release some of their shows weekly as opposed to entire seasons at a time.
I will say that the anticipation of a new episode of Knight Rider to actually start was a golden moment, but the week long lead-up to that was for the birds.
I did find the suspense of the original Aliens series by Nelson and Verheiden to be intoxicating. Those books took months and months between issues and it was always a worthwhile wait. In the meantime my mind was filled with all sorts of scenarios where the story could go.
I'm ok with letting artists, directors and whomever take their time, but I also like the immersive experience of doing the occasional binge watch.
Quote from: SiL on Apr 01, 2019, 10:48:54 PM
Quote from: Huggs on Apr 01, 2019, 10:45:27 PM
Quote from: SiL on Apr 01, 2019, 10:42:22 PM
Why blow their load all at once? They generate more ongoing discussion by spreading out the release than by dumping it all at once.
6 days is all at once?
Yes. All the conversation is generated in one week long dump and fizzles out soon after. This is how the internet do. By spreading that over 6 weeks they keep the conversation alive and trending for a month and a half, which is much more valuable for online content and also keeps the audience engaged.
I agree! More traffic over a longer time, and people who missed the first one may watch it when they cach the second or third. And it encourages re-watching.
I have one gripe and that is in the sets. I felt they were a bit flimsy looking but well designed. The space vistas were especially nice. I guess it could have delivered one quick "money shot" of the chestburster, but otherwise the acting was solid, the direction was good and the story was simple.
I hope they do this again so I can submit the short I wrote ALIEN: REUNION. I missed the deadline by like 5 fukin minutes because I failed to consider time zones, like a moron.
The fact it was US only was a killer.
Who knows, if these go down well there's always a chance they might do some more.
Probably still US only tho'.
Wasn't there some workaround? I mean the guy who did Containment was from the UK.
I'm pretty sure the production needed to be US-based, but could be outsourced. So legally and financially it would be a US-wherever coproduction if it was made outside the US. The people who entered the competition needed to be US-based, so he might've had a producer pitch the project on his behalf.
As an educated guess -- I'm not sure. I know I wasn't eligible to pitch.
Quote from: CainsSon on Apr 03, 2019, 03:48:41 AM
I have one gripe and that is in the sets. I felt they were a bit flimsy looking but well designed. The space vistas were especially nice. I guess it could have delivered one quick "money shot" of the chestburster, but otherwise the acting was solid, the direction was good and the story was simple.
I hope they do this again so I can submit the short I wrote ALIEN: REUNION. I missed the deadline by like 5 fukin minutes because I failed to consider time zones, like a moron.
Ouch. Sorry brother.
Quote from: Corporal Hicks on Apr 03, 2019, 11:43:47 AM
Wasn't there some workaround? I mean the guy who did Containment was from the UK.
Just find a partner in the states who will submit it and do some work on it. Plenty of Americans on here.
Quote from: Perfect-Organism on Apr 03, 2019, 01:57:13 PM
Quote from: Corporal Hicks on Apr 03, 2019, 11:43:47 AM
Wasn't there some workaround? I mean the guy who did Containment was from the UK.
Just find a partner in the states who will submit it and do some work on it. Plenty of Americans on here.
Bloody foreigners. Jumping on the internet and being useful
Turns out the final two films can be watched early if you use the digital code from the 4K release in iTunes.
I didn't realize this and put mine into Movies Anywhere, and I don't seem to have access to them through that service.
Thank you for the info if nothing else.
Just a heads up, they have now been added to Movies Anywhere as well. I'm going to watch the last couple now. 8)
Awesome!
Now that I've seen them all, I really enjoyed Specimen, Ore, and Alone. Containment was... ok, I guess. Night Shift was bad, and Harvest was worse.
Quote from: Nightmare Asylum on Apr 24, 2019, 02:44:55 AM
Now that I've seen them all, I really enjoyed Specimen, Ore, and Alone. Containment was... ok, I guess. Night Shift was bad, and Harvest was worse.
Harvest was worse?
Oh God.
Surprised at that. I don't recall Harvest being worse at all. Curious to rewatch.
It's very taste dependent.
As is the majority. lol
I missed that, can we still get at it?
The answers are all still up on the Alien Anthology Twitter. They were retweeting stuff.
Congrats to all the filmmakers! It is an honour to have ORE film screen alongside CONTAINMENT, SPECIMEN, NIGHT SHIFT, ALONE, and HARVEST :)
Congrats to everyone who participated. This has been most excellent, and a terrific effort on everyone's part. Below is my rating from best at the top.
1. Alien: Alone
2. Alien: Specimen
3. Alien: Ore
4. Alien: Harvest
5. Alien: Night Shift
6. Alien: Containment
So, who knew? I like androids! The spin on the facehugger as a pet for an android was brilliant for me, so Alien: Alone is number 1 for me. I thought the android dog in Alien: Specimen was also brilliant, and the main character had a brilliant edginess, but the film didn't push special effects like Alien: Alone, so number 2. It was a toss-up for me between Alien: Ore and Alien: Harvest, but I felt that Alien: Harvest reminded me a bit of a certain scene in AVP:R, so I put Alien: Ore at number 3. Alien: Harvest had some of the best effects in the series though and to be honest, if the weather changes outside, I could be inclined to put it up to number 3, but I will leave it at number 4 today. Alien: Night shift felt a bit disjointed to me with some character motivation issues in question, and Alien: Containment was a good effort :-).
Thanks to everyone involved! This was very cool to see.
Quote from: SpearSisters on Apr 27, 2019, 10:40:59 PM
Congrats to all the filmmakers! It is an honour to have ORE film screen alongside CONTAINMENT, SPECIMEN, NIGHT SHIFT, ALONE, and HARVEST :)
Nice to see you here. Ore was great fun.
Quote from: SpearSisters on Apr 27, 2019, 10:40:59 PM
Congrats to all the filmmakers! It is an honour to have ORE film screen alongside CONTAINMENT, SPECIMEN, NIGHT SHIFT, ALONE, and HARVEST :)
As a musician, I think the greatest compliment one can give an artist is that their work brought joy to someone.
So let me just say, I had a great time watching Ore. It was so much fun. :)
And congratulations on creating a truly enjoyable new piece of this beloved franchise.
Quote from: SpearSisters on Apr 27, 2019, 10:40:59 PMCongrats to all the filmmakers! It is an honour to have ORE film screen alongside CONTAINMENT, SPECIMEN, NIGHT SHIFT, ALONE, and HARVEST :)
Nice to hear from you both on here!
Thanks to you and everyone else involved in making these shorts. I wasn't too sure about the project when it was first announced, but I'm pleased to say I was pleasantly surprised by the end result. Some of the shorts were definitely better than others, but even the ones I didn't particularly love managed to impress me in some way.
Think I'll need to watch the last two again before I could rank them all, but I will say
Specimen and
Ore were especially impressive.
Now if you know someone you could prod about getting these on a home video release... ;)
I'd love for Fox/Disney to try this again someday. This really exceeded my expectations.
Quote from: SpearSisters on Apr 27, 2019, 10:40:59 PM
Congrats to all the filmmakers! It is an honour to have ORE film screen alongside CONTAINMENT, SPECIMEN, NIGHT SHIFT, ALONE, and HARVEST :)
Great to see you two here, and excellent job on the short! Ore was definitely among the highlights of this project!
Quote from: Huggs on Apr 28, 2019, 01:42:27 AM
Quote from: SpearSisters on Apr 27, 2019, 10:40:59 PM
Congrats to all the filmmakers! It is an honour to have ORE film screen alongside CONTAINMENT, SPECIMEN, NIGHT SHIFT, ALONE, and HARVEST :)
As a musician, I think the greatest compliment one can give an artist is that their work brought joy to someone.
So let me just say, I had a great time watching Ore. It was so much fun. :)
And congratulations on creating a truly enjoyable new piece of this beloved franchise.
Thanks so much! As long as people had a good time watching it, we're happy! :)
Quote from: Nightmare Asylum on Apr 28, 2019, 01:35:53 PM
Quote from: SpearSisters on Apr 27, 2019, 10:40:59 PM
Congrats to all the filmmakers! It is an honour to have ORE film screen alongside CONTAINMENT, SPECIMEN, NIGHT SHIFT, ALONE, and HARVEST :)
Great to see you two here, and excellent job on the short! Ore was definitely among the highlights of this project!
Thanks so much! Happy you enjoyed it :)
Quote from: [cancerblack] on Apr 28, 2019, 01:40:36 AM
Quote from: SpearSisters on Apr 27, 2019, 10:40:59 PM
Congrats to all the filmmakers! It is an honour to have ORE film screen alongside CONTAINMENT, SPECIMEN, NIGHT SHIFT, ALONE, and HARVEST :)
Nice to see you here. Ore was great fun.
Thanks!! :)
Quote from: HuDaFuK on Apr 28, 2019, 10:54:26 AM
Quote from: SpearSisters on Apr 27, 2019, 10:40:59 PMCongrats to all the filmmakers! It is an honour to have ORE film screen alongside CONTAINMENT, SPECIMEN, NIGHT SHIFT, ALONE, and HARVEST :)
Nice to hear from you both on here!
Thanks to you and everyone else involved in making these shorts. I wasn't too sure about the project when it was first announced, but I'm pleased to say I was pleasantly surprised by the end result. Some of the shorts were definitely better than others, but even the ones I didn't particularly love managed to impress me in some way.
Think I'll need to watch the last two again before I could rank them all, but I will say Specimen and Ore were especially impressive.
Now if you know someone you could prod about getting these on a home video release... ;)
Thrilled you liked it! The films won't be available on physical DVD or Bluray, but they are part of the digital download of special features on the 40th Anniversary Bluray :)
Definitely watch Ore (and the other shorts) via the digital release if you can; not having to deal with YouTube's compression is very nice.
Physical release of the shorts would be pretty cool, though.
Are these really not included with the new 40 year anniversary Alien release?? :o
If i was expecting something out of the shorts, i would be dissapointed, but i am just bored. Lots of potential, but the shorts were just rehash of stuff we already saw, and i know the budget was pretty low but the scripts have to be worked first.
Quote from: Perfect-Organism on Apr 28, 2019, 10:27:29 PMAre these really not included with the new 40 year anniversary Alien release?? :o
Only digitally.
QuoteThey've been a hit so far. The first shorts generated 7.6 million minutes of watch time on YouTube alone in their first two weeks of release, according to the studio and Tongal, which connects brands with creative talent for content-marketing and advertising projects.
https://www.forbes.com/sites/dbloom/2019/04/28/alien-films-40th-birthday-spawns-shorts-outburst-from-fox-tongal/
Not too shabby.
I'm really glad to hear. I hope they do this again.
Quote from: SiL on Apr 29, 2019, 11:06:53 AM
I'm really glad to hear. I hope they do this again.
Agreed. Would an annual comp in line with Alien Day be too much? Perhaps not 6 films but maybe 1 or 2 in a slightly longer format say 15-20 mins?
That's too much
Having now watched all of these a couple of times to get a good handle on them...
- Specimen
- Ore
- Alone
- Harvest
- Containment
- Night Shift
Fairly substantial drop off between the top three and the bottom three, but that's not to say the bottom three were bad, just that the top three impressed me significantly more. In fact
Specimen,
Ore and
Alone were all pretty close in terms of how much I liked them.
https://youtu.be/BUMsMaVhnQs
https://youtu.be/lZnDnK3YLsI
No watermark version.
Quote from: Prez on Apr 29, 2019, 01:26:35 PM
Quote from: SiL on Apr 29, 2019, 11:06:53 AM
I'm really glad to hear. I hope they do this again.
Agreed. Would an annual comp in line with Alien Day be too much? Perhaps not 6 films but maybe 1 or 2 in a slightly longer format say 15-20 mins?
I prefer multiple shorter...shorts.
Spoiler
Just imagine 20 minutes of Night Shift.
Just rewatched all of them. I'm still pleased with what we got, even appreciating each short more over time. It ranges from liking some to adoring others. I could imagine every short being expanded.
This was a successful project in my eyes.
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I'm really glad to hear. I hope they do this again.
Agreed. Would an annual comp in line with Alien Day be too much? Perhaps not 6 films but maybe 1 or 2 in a slightly longer format say 15-20 mins?
I prefer multiple shorter...shorts.
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Just imagine 20 minutes of Night Shift.
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still better than 2 hours of Covenant
At least the prequel caused us to receive David's Drawings and TCF. I don't see anything of the sort coming out of Containment, Harvest or Night Shift.
Quote from: The Old One on May 04, 2019, 06:05:54 PM
At least the prequel caused us to receive David's Drawings and TCF. I don't see anything of the sort coming out of Containment, Harvest or Night Shift.
It also gave us the flute scene, a person who took a job in space yelling "I hate space!" as well as taking a huge runny dump all over the lore of the original movie.
Quote from: LastSonofKrypton on May 04, 2019, 06:26:30 PM
a person who took a job in space yelling "I hate space!"
Bad example.
Fireman hate fire, cops hate domestic calls and getting shot at, most everybody hates retail and flipping burgers.
Every gig sucks in some way, and most of us have had jobs we've hated and that required us to do stuff we are uncomfortable with.
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Quote from: LastSonofKrypton on May 04, 2019, 06:26:30 PM
a person who took a job in space yelling "I hate space!"
Bad example.
Fireman hate fire, cops hate domestic calls and getting shot at, most everybody hates retail and flipping burgers.
Every gig sucks in some way, and most of us have had jobs we've hated and that required us to do stuff we are uncomfortable with.
Damn you Huggs! Damn you and your cast iron logic!!!
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Literally nothing wrong with the flute scene tbh.
The directors and cast are getting together this weekend to watch a director's cut of Alien: Alone. I was invited, but obviously I can't go. Dammit, sometimes being in Oz sucks.
@muthur9000 Logistics ... :-\
I love this country but yer we're literally as far as away from everyone else as possible ...
We were also invited but unfortunately RidgeTop refuses to move to LA and I canne afford it. :'(
Shit like that is why you never made Sergeant.
Hope this gets a wider release at some point! Can't imagine there'd be much issue putting it up on the official Alien website.
I managed to catch a glimpse of the Alone extended cut and thoroughly enjoyed it. ;D
Tease :)
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I managed to catch a glimpse of the Alone extended cut and thoroughly enjoyed it. ;D
Any notes on what it adds? Or is it just longer and moodier?
It would be interesting to know who owns this extended cut. Presumably Fox.
I'm guessing that the contracted filmmakers signed agreements stipulating that Fox would own the characters, the music, the designs (e.g. costumes, spacecraft), maybe even early script drafts, along with the final story (so it could be further exploited in other films and media). Possibly all the out-takes and deleted scenes had to be handed over as part of the completion package of deliverables, too. I think this is what you would expect in a commissioned work of this type, i.e. a complete buyout of all the filmmakers' creative endeavours, but it would be interesting to know for sure.
So Fox knows about this extended cut and gave it their blessing?
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It was said in the entry conditions that Fox owns all of the material produced, much like any film they make. It also said they had final say over the edit.
And so, I wonder the content the extended version entailed.
Quote from: SiL on Jul 03, 2019, 07:08:37 AM
It was said in the entry conditions that Fox owns all of the material produced, much like any film they make. It also said they had final say over the edit.
Yes. What I'm getting around to is this: how "official" is this cut? Is it for private viewing only, not intended for the public? If Fox release an official compilation of all 6 films, will Noah expect that his extended version be included instead of his 12:24 original? If so, maybe all the other teams would like the opportunity to recut their films too.
One of the first things I noted was that all the films overshot their 9 min. max running time, some by a little, some by a lot. So it's obvious everyone had difficulty making a sub-9 minute story. If Fox/Tongal do this again (maybe
Aliens 35th anniversary, 2021? :D ) I hope they extend the running time to more like 15 to 20 minutes. (Along with a commensurate boost in budget.)
Of course all the producer/director/editor teams ignored the running time stipulation anyway, but even so they would have all felt pressure to keep whittling their edits further and further back, possibly even beyond what they felt was good for the storytelling.
I think only
Specimen was a good fit for its 10:24 running time, for what its story had to say. To me, the others felt like they suffered a bit from having chunks of story missing.
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Try contacting the Director.
My impression is it's not official, nor is it going to get released to the public for a good while. It was pretty much just for that event. I'll rewatch them both again when I get chance and I'll post up the differences.
Looking forward to it.