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Cold Iron Studio’s new Alien game has finally been unveiled! The game is a cooperative third-person survivor shooter set in the year 2202 – 23 years after the events of the Alien trilogy. Players will assume the role of a a Colonial Marine stationed aboard the USS Endeavor. You’ll play through four campaigns compromising of three missions.

You’ll meet 20 enemy types, including 11 different Xenomorphs from Facehuggers to Praetorians, each designed with their own intelligence to ambush, outsmart and kill marines. There’ll be five unique classes – Gunner, Demolisher, Technician, Doc and Recon – each with their own special abilities and character perks. Players will utilize an extensive arsenal of over 30 weapons and over 70 mods/attachments.

You can check out the action-packed trailer and screenshots below:

You play as a newly recruited member of the United States Colonial Marines. You create your own soldier and choose from one of five classes (gunner, demolisher, recon, technician, and doc), each with their own combat roles. For example, technicians can deploy portable turrets to lock down hallways or provide additional support fire; docs can provide their teammates with temporary buffs and healing; and so on. Players can further customize their characters with different cosmetics, weapon upgrades, unlocked perks, and more. It doesn't appear to be a crazy deep amount of RPG-style tinkering, but it seems as though Cold Iron has been developing Fireteam with an eye toward replayablity.

Be sure to check out Game Informer for their full preview of the game. The official website is AliensFireTeam.com. Cold Iron Studio says that Aliens: Fireteam will be coming to PlayStation 5, Xbox Series X/S, PlayStation 4, Xbox One, and PC this summer!

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I'm down. Graphics looks nice.

But yeah, another gung-ho marine type of deal... :-X

It's certainly not another milestone in the franchise, but Hopefully, it's a fun quality product.

Looks like Aliens: Colonial Marines to me. Probably gonna pass, to be honest.

QuoteIn addition, he emphasized the importance for the game to exist on its own, without charging players for a steady drip of lootboxes and other microtransactions.

Who doesn't appreciate that!

Well I'm excited. I'm certain there will be some canon fodder complaints, but I'm looking forward to teaming up with my mates and having some Aliens fun!

QuoteThe game is designed to be played cooperatively, either with a pair of human players or AI-controlled allies.

Wait, the co-op caps out at two players???

Cool trailer! Hopefully it turns out fun! This may be what prompts me to shell out for a PS5!

Quote from: Nightmare Asylum on Mar 02, 2021, 03:25:10 PM

QuoteThe game is designed to be played cooperatively, either with a pair of human players or AI-controlled allies.

Wait, the co-op caps out at two players???

Hmm. That can't be right.... right?

Quote from: Voodoo Magic on Mar 02, 2021, 03:26:57 PM

Quote from: Nightmare Asylum on Mar 02, 2021, 03:25:10 PM

QuoteThe game is designed to be played cooperatively, either with a pair of human players or AI-controlled allies.

Wait, the co-op caps out at two players???

Hmm. That can't be right.... right?

Forgot to post the link, but got it from this Polygon article here: https://www.polygon.com/2021/3/2/22308993/aliens-fireteam-announcement-release-date-platforms

QuoteGrouping up in teams of three,

So I believe it's correct to interpret it as, you can play with a pair of players (i.e. 3 total on team) or AI allies.

Fireteam lol ?

Voodoo team! Voodoo! It's Zeus! Do you read me?

Quote11 Xenomorph types, deadly Weyland-Yutani synthetics, and other enemies awaiting players on the surfaces of far-off planets.

(https://media1.tenor.com/images/ce2249c8c601de9b034e4599d8198953/tenor.gif)

Alright now, it does indeed remind me of Colonial Marines, but looking at the way Aliens respond to weapons fire looks chunky in a good way.

It's great to see the types from the first three films all onscreen together for the first time since 2001... Monolith's AVP? Twenty years ago now? Jesus Christ.

Got a Left for Dead and Gears of War vibe. I hope it's a little more in depth than just a shoot 'em up but regardless, I'm definitely in!

Graphically maybe it looks like ACM.

Just hope the gameplay and the AI is better and there is no story here just simple stages to complete. And lets hope the perks and upgrades are interesting and you can go online.

My only gripe is that this sounds way too short 12 stages then only? I mean if each mission lasts an hour thats fine with me but online 12 stages wont last that long on the long run.

Ok.  Cool.  Jumping onto topic.

Just don't make it half a Pulse Rifle magazine to kill one warrior like in A:CM.

Quote from: Darkness on Mar 02, 2021, 03:09:06 PM
You'll meet 20 enemy types, including 11 different Xenomorphs from Facehuggers to Praetorians, each designed with their own intelligence to ambush, outsmart and kill marines.

Ha my Praetorians are back. Get rekt haters.

Yeah, definitely getting the Left 4 Dead vibe here. Like Left 4 Dead meets Destiny's strikes/weapon unlocks, dressed up to look like Aliens: Colonial Marines. None of this sounds right for an Alien game at all to me, to be completely honest. Even in a Marine-focused game, horror should be at the forefront, in my opinion. This is almost like an arcade shooter or something.

It looks like this game has chestburstered out of ACM multiplayer. Looks solid. Better than I expected. A bit surprised by the third-person view - I thought it would be fps.

For the small and humble Alien3 community, take a look at the Runner. Looks like in the movie! I am also delighted with the many new species of xenomorphs. I would like to get some neomorphs and hostile Engineers.

The only question is maps. How many will there be and will they be made in a different style?

1) Cosmic - Nostromo / Sevastopol.
2) Colony - Hadley's Hope.
3) Factory - Fury 161.
4) Maps with wild nature.

And God bless those people who decided to put it on Steam.

Why release an Alien game that seems to be based off of available information having less content than Hunting Grounds did at launch while Hunting Grounds is still active? Like sure you got a campaign but this is going to be as much a story as World War Z. All this is going to do is eat sales for one or the other. Especially bad since one of those franchises has a potential movie tie-in at about that time next year.

The footage while potentially not reflective of the build currently also doesn't inspire confidence in a big title since it will need to run on no less than 5 systems. Hunting Grounds to its credit had a very small development window and only running on two platforms whereas this has seemingly been in development for a few years by this point and apparently still in Alpha. Something is very wrong here.

Types I can think of:

Facehugger, Chestburster, Drone, (Maybe Weaver) Warrior, Runner, (Maybe Spitter) Defender, Praetorian Guard, Praetorian Charger, (Maybe Exploder) and Queen.

No Switch version, thats fine.

https://twitter.com/DMC_Ryan/status/1366765740146053121

Gameplay reveal Thursday.

Dayum, graphics look pretty awesome. It's multiplayer only, right?

Quote from: Evanus on Mar 02, 2021, 04:06:35 PM
Dayum, graphics look pretty awesome. It's multiplayer only, right?

Can be single player, but in that Left 4 Dead style where you're just running and gunning with AI teammates if you aren't playing with other people. Seems that this game is built for that sort of co-op experience, rather than a real campaign.

Looks at this chad
(https://www.avpgalaxy.net/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2021/03/aliens_fireteam_screenshot4.jpg)

No paddle tails!

Graphics look cold and crisp. Nice.

Hopefully this turns out to be a nice little surprise.

Any word on special editions yet??? I'm a sucker for those.

Gameplay looks good. Gunplay and animations too.

Synthetics? 1:16

This sounds SO GOOD! Exactly what I want, None of that first person shooter garbage.

The enemy models can use some work everything else though is beautiful also any word with it being able to be offline?Since it has multiple campaigns.

My initial response was "meh" - but I'm still holding out for it! I'll buy it though for sure! Also Fireteam?! Not feeling that name....

I'm a sucker for shooting Aliens so if it's good I'll buy it and if anyones getting it on pc hmu

It's a fresh take. I'm interested.

This definitely looks like a Game Pass, or bargain bin purchase for me. Was hoping they'd keep the Alien scary again like Isolation, rather than having it be cannon fodder.

I've got STRONG ACM vibes from that trailer  :-

Looking forward to this

So it's Gears of War Escape mode in a Colonial Marines skin? I'm expecting this to be twenty quid. And barely worth that.
That trailer dumped any excitement I had for the game out of the airlock.

Yawn.

Stompy the warrior.

(https://i.ibb.co/6Yv8Y5h/IMG-20210302-143118-860.jpg)

I hope this is good

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Alright, so I figured how the enemy variations will work
There are drone, warrior, spitter and Praetorian variants for the Runner and Soldier aliens
We see a Spitter Runner right here
(https://cdn.cloudflare.steamstatic.com/steam/apps/1549970/ss_ec31b17949ffade914b3876884e8a1b595027574.1920x1080.jpg?t=1614700024)

I do worry a bit here. The game has been in development for a few years and it's just an over the shoulder shooter with a narrative stringing horde zones. Not to say you can't get anything out of that but going from Alpha to Gold within a year of a very late trailer is worrisome.

Also the post says there are 11 kinds of Xenos meaning the other 9 of which is likely Weyland or some other corporation.

1. Warrior
2. Runner
3. Some sort of spitter
4. Praetorian
5. Queen (assuming it's a boss encounter)
6. What looks like a drone
7. Facehugger

That means other wise we could face a chestburster and an Egg might count as a Xenomorph leaving two others unaccounted for meaning they're probably newer kinds of Xenos and probably sub-bosses.

Quote from: SuperiorIronman on Mar 02, 2021, 06:08:07 PM
I do worry a bit here. The game has been in development for a few years and it's just an over the shoulder shooter with a narrative stringing horde zones. Not to say you can't get anything out of that but going from Alpha to Gold within a year of a very late trailer is worrisome.

Also the post says there are 11 kinds of Xenos meaning the other 9 of which is likely Weyland or some other corporation.

1. Warrior
2. Runner
3. Some sort of spitter
4. Praetorian
5. Queen (assuming it's a boss encounter)
6. What looks like a drone
7. Facehugger

That means other wise we could face a chestburster and an Egg might count as a Xenomorph leaving two others unaccounted for meaning they're probably newer kinds of Xenos and probably sub-bosses.

I doubt eggs or burters will be counted, I assume the 10 of the 11 Xenos are:

Queen
Human Praetorian
Runner Praetorian (Charger/Crusher)
Soldier Drone
Soldier Warrior
Soldier Spitter
Runner Drone
Runner Warrior
Runner Spitter
Facehugger

Quote from: SuperiorIronman on Mar 02, 2021, 06:08:07 PM
I do worry a bit here. The game has been in development for a few years and it's just an over the shoulder shooter with a narrative stringing horde zones. Not to say you can't get anything out of that but going from Alpha to Gold within a year of a very late trailer is worrisome.

Also the post says there are 11 kinds of Xenos meaning the other 9 of which is likely Weyland or some other corporation.

1. Warrior
2. Runner
3. Some sort of spitter
4. Praetorian
5. Queen (assuming it's a boss encounter)
6. What looks like a drone
7. Facehugger

That means other wise we could face a chestburster and an Egg might count as a Xenomorph leaving two others unaccounted for meaning they're probably newer kinds of Xenos and probably sub-bosses.

https://www.polygon.com/2021/3/2/22308993/aliens-fireteam-announcement-release-date-platforms
This article mentions "Bursters", Aliens that have giant acid glands. It sounds like it'll function as a kamikaze unit or something.

It's almost like ACM: Take 2

The mere fact that it has nothing to do with randy makes it better.

Randy can take a hugger up the ass for all i care for, he almost killed Alien and killed Duke Nukem, I'll never forgive him

I want to be more excited for this, but this seems like a very downgraded version of what ColdIron studios initially had planned.

Not that it's really their fault with the chaos of the Disney merger, and whatnot.

Not a fan of the third person camera, the bee lining aliens, and the mostly helmetless marines.

I had hopes of a campaign, but this looks more like selectable scenarios?

I tell you what it will most likely end up being:
Left 4 Dead like Co-Op Campaign and Multiplayer
Someone finally hit the mark with an idea - if it's not going to be that though,  then let's just say I would be dissapointed... But I'll take it.
An identical Co-Op type progress with inverse mp would be amazing

THIRD PERSON!
Didn't expect that, was beginning to doubt we'd ever get a third person. Online shooters are meh but I do like that angle looking forward to it. Would have preferred an action/ horror RPG but this could be cool.

Quote from: Tomasz Spychala on Mar 02, 2021, 06:44:15 PM
Left 4 Dead like Co-Op Campaign and Multiplayer

Yeah, definitely getting the sense of L4D style campaigns, with a dash of Destiny's strikes as well (especially in the progression system they're touting). Both Destiny and L4D are built around the idea that these story components are endlessly repayable, which is what Fireteam is touting right now.

Which just, I don't know, doesn't really hit the mark of what I'm looking for in an Alien gaming experience. :-\ We'll see, of course, but so far this just isn't doing it for me.

Haven't played "Left 4 Dead" but I have played other squad based shooters like "Rainbow Six" and "SW: Republic Commando" both of which I enjoyed so if this is anything like those I think I'll have a good time. Now I just hope the story is solid.

Sounds like the kind of scenario you'd have found in the Bug Hunt anthology, but playable. A bunch of those shorts had Colonial Marines who were aware of Xenomorphs & one story even had some special suit that was mentioned as being designed to partially neutralise the acid blood. Xenomorph pest control certainly works for a game premise.

If this is Left 4 Dead: Aliens (maybe World War Z: Aliens would be more appropriate but I didn't play that) then I'll be at least hoping that each of the levels within the four campaigns have a very respectable length. Some L4D campaigns could be beat in under an hour. I'd also like the scenario variety to be very varied, not just 'Press X in Y location' then 'Press X in Z location' next playthrough.

Left 4 Dead was praised for playing differently each time but honestly I never noticed any difference each go-around besides the spawn rate of enemies, weapon drops & throwables which barely altered the campaign at all. Over ten years later we definitely need better replay value in a game like this, if Left 4 Dead is going to be this game's closest comparison point.

Overall though it looks fun, I'm excited to see more & hope it doesn't disappoint. I hope the Xenomorphs feel dangerous, like any one of them could kill you so having dozens of them after you is a nightmare. If they just end up as numbers on a scoreboard at the end of the level it'll be a shame.

It has potential, but the lack of acid blood related injuries and aliens running in straight lines at the players is concerning. :-\

I noticed the Seegson Working Joes in the background of one image.
Looks like good dumb fun, I'm all for it.
Also glad it will be released on Steam.

Quote from: Nightmare Asylum on Mar 02, 2021, 03:25:10 PM

QuoteThe game is designed to be played cooperatively, either with a pair of human players or AI-controlled allies.

Wait, the co-op caps out at two players???

As in 2 extra players. So 3 in total. Glad to see there's AI team-mate support too.

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Quote from: Nightmare Asylum on Mar 02, 2021, 04:06:07 PM
https://twitter.com/DMC_Ryan/status/1366765740146053121

Gameplay reveal Thursday.

Excellent! Be nice to see it in action properly! That works out at 5pm GMT.

Looks very promising. Hopefully it will wash the taste of "Colonial Marines" out of my mouth.

I know this game will take place years after the events in ALIENS but I'm hoping that with the inevitable DLC they'll consider:

-Hadley's Hope Last Stand
-Sulaco/Gateway Station Invasion
-The Derelict
-Weyland Yutani Headquarters/Cloning Production line

I think all of those levels/missions would be visually stunning and dynamic and invite the gameplay elements their trailer is showing off.

The "lack of bugs" ie broken gameplay and A.I. really needs to be top notch for this game. Colonial Marine's broken AI is one of main reasons that game was so crappy along with lack of QA(Quality Assurance). I hope they've been play testing the heck out of it to ensure the game is mainly bug free and plays well.

I'm really hoping Cold Iron can pull this off!

Also, I updated the front-page with the bulk of the press release we were sent, plus the keyart without the logos on it.

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So I'm definitely getting ACM-vibes too. The obvious being...you know, it's Colonial Marines, so I think that's just everyone's brains doing the obvious there. That said, I always enjoyed the customisation and the actual MP of ACM, so it wouldn't be such a bad thing if we got a more polished take on that IMHO. Very surprised to see the 3rd person perspective. Really dislike the title. Curious to see more of it in actual action soon.

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The take on the old Aliens tagline "there's some places in the universe you don't go alone" made me smile.

This looks like it is totally my jam, but A:CM burned me pretty hard. Consider me cautiously optimistic.

I could help but find some ironic humor in this as the Predator Hunting Grounds community had been clamoring for Aliens in the game. Have them replace stargazer ai and now Fireteam has to contend with both a Predator player and Aliens AI units swarming in after them while they try to do missions. Well we got Fireteam facing Aliens alright, 3 instead of 4 players and now its in future space with no Predator. Good show for that lol

Thoughts on the game, I want it to succeed but I will see how it fairs once everyone gets their hands on it. After Colonial Marines, I'm glad I didn't put any money in it and saw how disappointing it was to fans. I will use this same plan again and hopefully this comes out great.

I still find it kind of funny that they lowered the count from 4 to 3 just to differentiate their Fireteam from Predator's Fireteam  :laugh:

https://kotaku.com/aliens-fireteam-pits-colonial-marines-against-the-xeno-1846387370

So it was a live-demo shown over Discord. Kotaku got to check it out too.

Oh hey, nice to see this finally, officially announced!

The name's a little lacklustre and some of the animations look a little jittery in places, but overall it looks a lot better visually than I was expecting, given that it must have been in development for a while on last-gen before this point. I'm a bit surprised that it's going to be third-person rather than first, but I guess that's both a way to separate it a bit from Colonial Marines and also works better for the character customisation that's going to be a big part of the game.

It also sounds like it's going to be more along the lines of Left 4 Dead than Destiny, which is what I think we were all expecting. Speaking as someone who absolutely played the hell out of those games back in the day (and is really looking forward to Back 4 Blood as a result), I'm down with this approach. The quasi-L4D "escape" mode in the A:CM multiplayer was the right idea but just didn't go far enough in really capturing that type of gameplay, so I'm hoping this one does it justice.

I'm liking the sounds of the character classes too. Again, A:CM's multiplayer had some good ideas but it didn't fully capitalise on them, among them things like being able to place sentry turrets to help you fight the Aliens off and hold certain locations. And as someone whose favourite class in Team Fortress was always the Engineer, I'm totally going to be playing a lot of "technician" when this drops.

And yeah let's face it, regardless of how good it ends up being I'll totally be getting this day one! :laugh:

It sounds like there are going to be a surprising amount of non-xeno enemies too. We can see W-Y combat androids in a couple of shots, and even some Working Joes in one of the screenshots, so that should hopefully help keep things varied.

(https://www.avpgalaxy.net/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2021/03/aliens_fireteam_screenshot10-1920x1080.jpg)

I also just love the dome on this dude. Major Alien 3 vibes in the best way. The Aliens in general are looking really good. And yay for Praetorians! It's been a while! Love that space station-looking environment we see a couple of times in the trailer too! I'm glad it looks like the environments are hopefully going to be varied.

I will say it's a little disappointing they're going with the Destiny-style 3-player teams instead of 4 though. I guess it'll help make things seem a bit more hectic and scary when the action starts to heat up, but it also means one less person joining in if there are four online at once. But oh well, it is what it is. Either way I'm excited!

Wait... We can't see that demo?  :'(

I'd imagine that's probably what we'll be seeing on Thursday.

Is nobody disappointed with third person?  Also I am going to assume this may be online only?  Another disappointment.
And yes I'm still going to buy it.  I'm just a little unhappy about the third person thing.  I want a more realistic playing style.

Not disapointed to be fair so far which is odd as I have high expectations and standards for my alien stuff so thats good. :P

third person is alright to me not something that worries me and doing these kind of shoting can be fun for some time.
But too little so far to tell if the game will be only this or if it will have some squad tactics and real life military thinking and being like star wars squad leader games or not.

I have some fears this will be very repetive quick and not much variety besides in weapons and aliens, the gameplay will be the same, and if its only online then I will wait until it gets discounts, same for predator hunting grounds, another jason the friday the 13 game, dont even see why people gets that game but enough off topic.
Might be fun to play with friends and people from this forum, but I hope it has content for single player but I wont expect it to be a great story, nothing like alien isolation nor do the xenomorphs be anything smart than running at you and being cannon fodder, but thats to be expected from a game that focus on marines and what the avp games did in the past but I hold alien isolation as superiour game :P

I just hope they get the pulse rifle right this time unlike in aliens colonial marines, 30 round magazines? WHAT?!

One thing that bothers me a lot is: Why do the xenomroph warriors and drones run on all four? In alien and aliens they run on their 2 legs not on all four, dont get why games do that? The runner looks good and that one have the legs for running on all four, but like in alien 3 it should be able to run on two legs too.
Hoping for a fix on that, else it seems faithful for the xenomorphs.

Will keep an eye on this :)

I don't know what the Hell I was thinking but this releases this summer.  :o What the f**k.

So we only just got a trailer that doesn't show enough gameplay, we might see a demo Thursday, and this is for a game potentially 3-4 months from now? Dude this is Alpha footage.

I don't know about anybody else, but what I thought was a year from now turns out may be releasing in a few months.
(https://media.tenor.com/images/f159a0d529390e7c1a315ccb1d9798fc/tenor.gif)

This game is either going to be shallow or it's going to be unfinished. I can almost guarantee that.

I hope this game have sigle player option.

Quote from: SuperiorIronman on Mar 02, 2021, 09:54:37 PM
I don't know what the Hell I was thinking but this releases this summer.  :o What the f**k.

So we only just got a trailer that doesn't show enough gameplay, we might see a demo Thursday, and this is for a game potentially 3-4 months from now? Dude this is Alpha footage.

I don't know about anybody else, but what I thought was a year from now turns out may be releasing in a few months.
https://media.tenor.com/images/f159a0d529390e7c1a315ccb1d9798fc/tenor.gif

This game is either going to be shallow or it's going to be unfinished. I can almost guarantee that.

It will be a pretty short and repetive game, like predator hunting grounds, dont take much development time to do it, its not like they try to make a epic story line and big single player content. Gonna be very arcadish and for multiplayer only I bet. Dont expect it to be game of the year material xD

After digging through the trailer and some other images, here are the Xenos and androids I've spotted
Alien Warrior
(https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/704479152937500682/816433641059385394/unknown.png)
(https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/704479152937500682/816436224897712148/unknown.png)
Alien Drone, official render
(https://www.aliensfireteam.com/assets/img/drone-min-new.png)
Alien Runner
(https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/704479152937500682/816434579958661210/unknown.png?width=970&height=676)
Spitter/Explosive Runner
(https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/704479152937500682/816435444253720596/unknown.png)
Warrior/Cougar Runner (has a small crown)
(https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/704479152937500682/816434858573430784/unknown.png)
(https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/704479152937500682/816435742170677298/unknown.png)
Praetorian(for some reason it runs like a Gorilla?)
(https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/704479152937500682/816436394918150216/unknown.png)
(https://cdn.cloudflare.steamstatic.com/steam/apps/1549970/ss_28a1216a27407546f67696448250a96beaeaeb58.1920x1080.jpg?t=1614700024)
Queen
(https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/704479152937500682/816436069934956564/unknown.png)
Facehugger
(https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/704479152937500682/816436632465965056/unknown.png)
Combat Synth/Joe
(https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/704479152937500682/816436778986504242/unknown.png)
Working Joe
(https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/704479152937500682/816434649772851230/unknown.png)

AVP-2010 has had a much better long lasting impression on me than A:CM did.

I really hope that this is just even above average at this point, not to put spec on the game. But i need my alien fix.

lots of thoughts while watching the trailer.

First glad we finally see this, the number of aliens sounds amazing. but im not too keen on third person but looks like it could be the best way to play as an action game. While alpha footage it did look a little clayish. Looks rough for being released later this year. I really dont care about 70 customizable weapons seems over kill to be honest.

I really enjoyed L4D so im sure this will be a fun game regardless. I am very disappointed with the lack of campaign. i will almost always prefer single player over multiplayer.

No playable alien again is a huge problem for me. i want a modern alien game that isnt built around multiplayer and lets you play as the alien.

But the aliens look fantastic and i cant wait to see them in action.

ill get it regardless but ill have to see a lot more for it to be a day one purchase and not wait for it to go on sale.

Wasnt there supposed to be a book that came out before the game?

Oh no, not the spitter, their design is awful and the idea of them is just meh.

Hunting Grounds was the little game that could. The planets practically aligned to make that game happen where everyone just happened to be in the right places to get the game off the ground including Schwarzenegger who happened to see the movie again and got the urge to do it. All that from a pitch in a bar. They didn't ask for enough time and money but everyone was onboard.

This was announced in 2018 and while a series of delays did befall that it's concerning that nothing has come up until recently and then tout a release date that it'd be shipping in a few months but no exact day has been given. Just a vague "it will be out this summer". While I don't doubt it's meant to be a smaller title it's odd given that it had a few years in the oven despite the delays and we hadn't even seen a screenshot up until they outright gave us the release date. That doesn't show confidence in the product and will probably get a delay.

It runs like that most likely because it's a Praetorian Charger, not a Praetorian Guard, judging by the prequel novel Infiltrator this uses Alien The RPG Lore. 

Quote from: SuperiorIronman on Mar 02, 2021, 10:34:29 PM
Hunting Grounds was the little game that could. The planets practically aligned to make that game happen where everyone just happened to be in the right places to get the game off the ground including Schwarzenegger who happened to see the movie again and got the urge to do it. All that from a pitch in a bar. They didn't ask for enough time and money but everyone was onboard.

This was announced in 2018 and while a series of delays did befall that it's concerning that nothing has come up until recently and then tout a release date that it'd be shipping in a few months but no exact day has been given. Just a vague "it will be out this summer". While I don't doubt it's meant to be a smaller title it's odd given that it had a few years in the oven despite the delays and we hadn't even seen a screenshot up until they outright gave us the release date. That doesn't show confidence in the product and will probably get a delay.

I dont see what makes predator hunting ground so great, its basicly friday the 13th, predator version in my eyes, not much single player content or story mode etc, just some people runnign away from one player who is the predator xD

Quote from: Trash Queen on Mar 02, 2021, 10:34:38 PM
It runs like that most likely because it's a Praetorian Charger, not a Praetorian Guard, judging by the prequel novel Infiltrator this uses Alien The RPG Lore.

But isn't the Preatorian Charger basically the Crusher?

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Also we seem to have a Runner Praetorian variation too, the cougar one I spotted, he only appears for a split second at the 34 seconds mark
Also I think I just spotted the AvP alien spitting acid in the trailer
(https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/814948214125232148/816439712192397332/unknown.png)

Quote from: PAS Spinelli on Mar 02, 2021, 10:38:28 PM

Quote from: Trash Queen on Mar 02, 2021, 10:34:38 PM
It runs like that most likely because it's a Praetorian Charger, not a Praetorian Guard, judging by the prequel novel Infiltrator this uses Alien The RPG Lore.

But isn't the Preatorian Charger basically the Crusher?

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Also we seem to have a Runner Praetorian variation too, the cougar one I spotted, he only appears for a split second at the 34 seconds mark
Also I think I just spotted the AvP alien spitting acid in the trailer
https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/814948214125232148/816439712192397332/unknown.png

i mean it could be the crusher. Any of the aliens we saw in ACM could be brought forward since it is canon, except the boiler, i think that was a unique case

Quote from: Nazrel on Mar 02, 2021, 10:42:19 PM

Quote from: PAS Spinelli on Mar 02, 2021, 10:38:28 PM

Quote from: Trash Queen on Mar 02, 2021, 10:34:38 PM
It runs like that most likely because it's a Praetorian Charger, not a Praetorian Guard, judging by the prequel novel Infiltrator this uses Alien The RPG Lore.

But isn't the Preatorian Charger basically the Crusher?

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Also we seem to have a Runner Praetorian variation too, the cougar one I spotted, he only appears for a split second at the 34 seconds mark
Also I think I just spotted the AvP alien spitting acid in the trailer
https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/814948214125232148/816439712192397332/unknown.png

i mean it could be the crusher. Any of the aliens we saw in ACM could be brought forward since it is canon, except the boiler, i think that was a unique case

ACM isn't canon, it's storyline is considered a legend, only some designs featured in it are considered part of the canon

Correct its not cannon, it was a ruse by gearbox for a while which was proven false.

unless something was recently changed it is canon.

Quote from: Nazrel on Mar 02, 2021, 10:48:48 PM
unless something was recently changed it is canon.

https://roguereviewer.wordpress.com/2020/10/12/defining-canon-in-an-alien-world/
Fox doesnt consider its story canon

This game is probably not cannon either, short on story and its more random colonial marines vs aliens game in aliens timeframe but not emant to be taken seriously liek a movie etc. A multiplayer shoter game with short matches and see how far you get I cant take as a cannon story. See it as alien trilogy: taking all xenos and weapons and have a game built around it.

Quote from: PAS Spinelli on Mar 02, 2021, 10:49:59 PM

Quote from: Nazrel on Mar 02, 2021, 10:48:48 PM
unless something was recently changed it is canon.

https://roguereviewer.wordpress.com/2020/10/12/defining-canon-in-an-alien-world/
Fox doesnt consider its story canon

neat. I stand corrected thank you.

I absolutely love seeing the swam of aliens in the trailer and i hope they keep the movement design and just flesh it out more. the Runners look amazing and look to have weight to them and i just love it.

I hope the devs allow community modding.  there could be some amazing custom games made.

seeing ll the aliens wants me an alien hive sim even more 

From Alien The RPG:

Quote
Stage I
(Ovomorph) Egg.


Stage II
(Manumala noxhydria) Facehugger.


Stage III
(Plagiarus Preapotens) Chestburster.


Stage IV
P. Praepotens (Drone) Lurker:
Bipedal adult, with a smooth chitinous translucent carapace, biomechanical exoskeleton and four symmetrical dorsal tube like protrusions with often a distinct pointed central fifth and a tail ending in a single blade, born from a human.
2.4 meters tall upright.

Spoiler

Also claims it is able to:
Cause ovomorphing with it's barb toxin.

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P. Praepotens (Runner) Scout:
Quadrupedal adult, with a smooth chitinous translucent carapace, biomechanical exoskeleton and a tail ending in a large blade, born from a animal.
2.1 meters tall upright.

Spoiler

Also claims it does:
Traverse walls and ceilings faster with greater efficiency.

[close]

Stage V
P. Praepotens (Warrior) Soldier:
Bipedal adult, with a ridged chitinous opaque carapace and developed extremities with nails replaced with claws, biomechanical exoskeleton and four symmetrical dorsal tube like protrusions with often a distinct pointed central fifth and a tail ending in a single blade, developed from a Lurker.
2.4 meters tall upright.

Spoiler

Also claims it is able to:
Cause paralysis with it's barb toxin.

[close]

P. Praepotens (Defender) Sentry:
Quadrupedal adult, with a ridged chitinous opaque carapace and developed extremities with nails replaced with claws, biomechanical exoskeleton and a tail ending in a large blade, developed from a Scout.
2.1 meters tall upright.

Spoiler

Also claims it does:
Now develop dorsal tube like protrusions, with no description of their appearance or number, though whether visible by Stage five or Stage six remains unknown.

[close]

Stage VI
(P. Praepotens) Praetorian Guard: Bipedal Praetorian, developed from a Soldier.
(P. Praepotens) Praetorian Charger: Quadrupedal Praetorian, developed from a Sentry.
(P. Praepotens) Queen.

I think this basically amounts to what we will receive, I just do not know how the Spitter fits in, or "Burster" or Weaver.
Each come across as rather redundant in my opinion being that the Sentry already spits acid, the Soldier's known to explode upon death sometimes, and the Weaver just appears like a unnecessary use of resources in general. We will see ultimately.

Quote from: Trash Queen on Mar 02, 2021, 10:56:07 PM
From Alien The RPG:

Quote
Stage I
(Ovomorph) Egg.


Stage II
(Manumala noxhydria) Facehugger.


Stage III
(Plagiarus Preapotens) Chestburster.


Stage IV
P. Praepotens (Drone) Lurker:
Bipedal adult, with a smooth chitinous translucent carapace, biomechanical exoskeleton and four symmetrical dorsal tube like protrusions with often a distinct pointed central fifth and a tail ending in a single blade, born from a human.
2.4 meters tall upright.

Spoiler

Also claims it is able to:
Cause ovomorphing with it's barb toxin.

[close]

P. Praepotens (Runner) Scout:
Quadrupedal adult, with a smooth chitinous translucent carapace, biomechanical exoskeleton and a tail ending in a large blade, born from a animal.
2.1 meters tall upright.

Spoiler

Also claims it does:
Traverse walls and ceilings faster with greater efficiency.

[close]

Stage V
P. Praepotens (Warrior) Soldier:
Bipedal adult, with a ridged chitinous opaque carapace and developed extremities with nails replaced with claws, biomechanical exoskeleton and four symmetrical dorsal tube like protrusions with often a distinct pointed central fifth and a tail ending in a single blade, developed from a Lurker.
2.4 meters tall upright.

Spoiler

Also claims it is able to:
Cause paralysis with it's barb toxin.

[close]

P. Praepotens (Defender) Sentry:
Quadrupedal adult, with a ridged chitinous opaque carapace and developed extremities with nails replaced with claws, biomechanical exoskeleton and a tail ending in a large blade, developed from a Scout.
2.1 meters tall upright.

Spoiler

Also claims it does:
Now develop dorsal tube like protrusions, with no description of their appearance or number, though whether visible by Stage five or Stage six remains unknown.

[close]

Stage VI
(P. Praepotens) Praetorian Guard: Bipedal Praetorian, developed from a Soldier.
(P. Praepotens) Praetorian Charger: Quadrupedal Praetorian, developed from a Sentry.
(P. Praepotens) Queen.

I think this basically amounts to what we will receive, I just do not know how the Spitter fits in, or "Burster" or Weaver.
Each come across as rather redundant in my opinion being that the Sentry already spits acid, the Soldier's known to explode upon death sometimes, and the Weaver just appears like a unnecessary use of resources in general. We will see ultimately.

Pretty sure this game just take all xenos it can and put them in and no attempt at making sense as its more a none cannon arcade shoter game with best of type :P So dont have to figure out how the spitter and all other stuff fit in as its not meant for changing anything. But have to wait and see but I see it as alien trilogy or aliens infestation etc game.

I'm giving it a chance first.

Actually, the list Queen just provided fits within many of the Aliens I found while snooping around, let me remake the list

Good stuff.

P. Praepotens (Drone) Lurker:
Bipedal adult, with a smooth chitinous translucent carapace, biomechanical exoskeleton and four symmetrical dorsal tube like protrusions with often a distinct pointed central fifth and a tail ending in a single blade, born from a human.

Spoiler

(https://www.aliensfireteam.com/assets/img/drone-min-new.png)

[close]

P. Praepotens (Runner) Scout:
Quadrupedal adult, with a smooth chitinous translucent carapace, biomechanical exoskeleton and a tail ending in a large blade, born from a animal.
2.1 meters tall upright.

Spoiler

(https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/704479152937500682/816434579958661210/unknown.png?width=970&height=676)

[close]

P. Praepotens (Warrior) Soldier:
Bipedal adult, with a ridged chitinous opaque carapace and developed extremities with nails replaced with claws, biomechanical exoskeleton and four symmetrical dorsal tube like protrusions with often a distinct pointed central fifth and a tail ending in a single blade, developed from a Lurker.
2.4 meters tall upright.

Spoiler

(https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/704479152937500682/816436224897712148/unknown.png)

[close]

P. Praepotens (Defender) Sentry:
Quadrupedal adult, with a ridged chitinous opaque carapace and developed extremities with nails replaced with claws, biomechanical exoskeleton and a tail ending in a large blade, developed from a Scout.
2.1 meters tall upright.

Spoiler

(https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/704479152937500682/816435742170677298/unknown.png)

[close]

(P. Praepotens) Praetorian

Spoiler

(https://cdn.cloudflare.steamstatic.com/steam/apps/1549970/ss_28a1216a27407546f67696448250a96beaeaeb58.1920x1080.jpg?t=1614700024)

[close]

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I f**ked up in the editing lmao

Quote from: Trash Queen on Mar 02, 2021, 10:34:38 PM
It runs like that most likely because it's a Praetorian Charger, not a Praetorian Guard, judging by the prequel novel Infiltrator this uses Alien The RPG Lore. 

It could be, but my initial impression was just that it's too large to stand upright in that corridor.

So I'm curious about what happened here. Originally we were told it was "destiny-esqe " meaning it was more open world when going down to the planet and whatnot.

So now it's just left 4 dead style (not a bad thing)

I'm curious did an "overwatch" happen where the original concept didn't work so they just turned it into multiplayer?? (Also not a bad thing overwatch was great)

Also anyone know if we get to play as Aliens too or am i getting that confused with something else?

I'm very excited for this so please don't think my comment is all doom and gloom

The farther from Destiny the better.

No Alien gameplay
The game seems to have taken inspiration from Second Extinction, looter shooter with L4D like missions and enemies

Quote from: PAS Spinelli on Mar 02, 2021, 11:16:23 PM
No Alien gameplay
The game seems to have taken inspiration from Second Extinction, looter shooter with L4D like missions and enemies

PRetty much this.

Never played destiny but a large open world alien game i think could still be fun if done right

Quote from: Richman678 on Mar 02, 2021, 11:13:18 PM
So I'm curious about what happened here. Originally we were told it was "destiny-esqe " meaning it was more open world when going down to the planet and whatnot.

So now it's just left 4 dead style (not a bad thing)

I'm curious did an "overwatch" happen where the original concept didn't work so they just turned it into multiplayer?? (Also not a bad thing overwatch was great)

Also anyone know if we get to play as Aliens too or am i getting that confused with something else?

I'm very excited for this so please don't think my comment is all doom and gloom

This has been the big question mark lingering over the whole project today for me, too.

I didn't want the Destiny-esque game, as I feel that is too open-world for this franchise, but it is what I was expecting based on everything we've been hearing for three years (unless I grossly misinterpreted their original comments, but it seems like a lot of other people had the same expectations based on what they had originally said). That it seems to have been significantly reduced in scale to being a handful of Left 4 Dead campaigns (with a weapon/stat upgrade system) was an absolute shock this morning.

Maybe the gameplay on Thursday will change my mind, but right now this is making me think of that Terminator game from a couple years ago. I know that has its fans, but I'd hardly call it a AAA game, and that seems to be the impression I'm getting from this announcement too. Especially with the incredibly quick turnaround from today's trailer to this summer's release date.

According to an article someone posted over on the Illfonic boards they played coy about post-launch DLC. It's possible something is in the pipeline but given how soon the release date is and the current state based off the footage I have the feeling they're gonna play it like Star Wars: Squadrons. Basically meaning it will launch and die with the content it has and may do something down the road based on reception but no promises.

Say what you want about ACM but it had some really cool parts like the sewer level where you're unarmed and have to sneak around the blind mutated xenomorphs.

I kinda prefer something more like isolation, but this game looks fun.

Destiny's a GaaS "Games as a Service" so no worries.

Good or bad in my opinion...

Be glad it's not that whatever it ends up being.

A:CM gave me hundreds of hours of fun with my son. I know the game had faults, but the multiplayer and bug hunt was fun. This hopefully gives me a much improved Aliens game I can play with him. He was 5 when we played A:CM lol.

Quote from: razeak on Mar 02, 2021, 11:56:03 PM
A:CM gave me hundreds of hours of fun with my son. I know the game had faults, but the multiplayer and bug hunt was fun. This hopefully gives me a much improved Aliens game I can play with him. He was 5 when we played A:CM lol.

Have you played Fortnite with the AvP skins with him? lmao

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Quote from: Trash Queen on Mar 02, 2021, 11:54:02 PM
Destiny's a GaaS "Games as a Service" so no worries.

Good or bad in my opinion...

Be glad it's not that whatever it ends up being.

It sounds like they'll do it like FN, make a BP that is purely cosmetic, while any new additions are free for everyone

There is long time since the last game in wich you can enter into the queen's nest and kill her... In fact, the only game that comes to me is alien trilogy.

Hope this game will be bring it to me. Love the queen encounters when was child (egg chamber and ovopositor queen, then fight her)

In other aliens games you simply can't kill her by your own (colonial marines, avp2010, avp gold) or just she is not in the nest laying eggs (avp2, alien resurrection...)

Aside from the awful 3rd person view, it's just A:CM all over again.

2 out of 10

Now now, ACM didnt suck for being marines vs aliens
It had poor gunplay, poor story, poor optimization, poor AI, poor patches, and poor enemy variety
We only got a proper look at the enemy variety so far, and it looks good

I've watched the trailer twice and I'm going to say f*ck it, I'm in. I'm feeling the graphics/art direction and the game play, looks like a solid experience. I think its going to have an uphill battle with the ACM comparisons, but unavoidable in a game that features Aliens and Colonial Marines.


I'm digging it at the moment and if it sucks? Well... nothing new right?

I'm ready. Glad it's not a Destiny like game (Never liked destiny all that much anyway), and since I've been craving more games like Left 4 Dead this is something I want personally.

Anybody know if this will have any sort of PvP mode?

I'm not a huge gamer like I was growing up many eons ago but dammit this does look like fun.

Wut..? No sign of any playable Aliens? *sigh* Really..? At least "A:CM" did have asymmetrical multiplayer going for it.

This sure does look like a pared back version of their original game description.

Gameplay being released on Thursday, I see. I'll be looking forward to seeing that.

-Windebieste.

Really excited for this!

Looks like a great co-op experience and a fine way to celebrate Aliens' 35th. Hopefully it'll succeed where ACM failed.

Have been doing some digging through the official website's assets and found this interesting environment...

Spoiler

(https://www.aliensfireteam.com/assets/img/biomech-min.png)

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and here's a good look at the drone model:

(https://www.aliensfireteam.com/assets/img/drone-min-new.png)

Quote from: RidgeTop on Mar 03, 2021, 01:52:21 AM
Have been doing some digging through the official website's assets and found this interesting environment...

Spoiler

(https://www.aliensfireteam.com/assets/img/biomech-min.png)

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I like it!

the models and textures look so much better than 2010 and ACM

Great visuals but I hate 3rd person.

I was hoping for a destiny-like game (mainly because I'm borderline addicted to destiny, and that mixed with alien just sounds fun to me), but this looks... promising I think? I probably won't get it at launch, but the reveal on Thursday may change my mind.

Then again I genuinely enjoyed alien Colonial marines so I'm not hard to impress

Quote from: [cancerblack] on Mar 03, 2021, 02:14:03 AM

Quote from: RidgeTop on Mar 03, 2021, 01:52:21 AM
Have been doing some digging through the official website's assets and found this interesting environment...

Spoiler

(https://www.aliensfireteam.com/assets/img/biomech-min.png)

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I like it!

The environment looks mechanical rather than organic. I wonder if they used the Engineer aesthetics as a reference.

But as long as it's cool, who cares anyway  8)

Yeah, clearly Prometheus-y and Engineer related.

Quote from: PAS Spinelli on Mar 02, 2021, 10:38:28 PM
Also I think I just spotted the AvP alien spitting acid in the trailer
https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/814948214125232148/816439712192397332/unknown.png

Do you think spitting is just an ability that all aliens possess now? So any alien in the background can participate when they can't reach you. They look kind of normal from afar.

Those green glowing heads may the boiler's replacement, because gameplay wise acid explosion was a very successful tactic.

EDIT: I'm hyped because I'm looking forward to a new online.

Why is everyone upset? This looks like what Aliens: Colonial Marines was supposed to be only in third person!

I know we shouldn't get hyped in case its bad but I think it looks promising.

Looks like fun. And it probably will be. But I also feel bored watching the trailer.

Our trailer reaction and initial thoughts. Featuring Hicks, Xenomorphine, and myself. 

This looks awesome in my opinion. Pre-purchasing on Steam as soon as we're able.

The graphics look like from a mobile game

Quote from: RidgeTop on Mar 03, 2021, 05:35:56 AM
Our trailer reaction and initial thoughts. Featuring Hicks, Xenomorphine, and myself. 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ze22Ki6s-64

I'd be totally down for having a VP70M sidearm in this! :laugh:

Also a little bit of extra background lore from IGN's article amongst some of the details we already know:

Quote from: IGN"Fireteam is set in 2202, 23 years after the original Alien movie trilogy. At this point in the timeline, Xenomorph outbreaks are rare but the aliens are widely known about. The Colonial Protection Act of 2187 commissioned warships to patrol the universe and protect colonists from Xenomorph outbreaks. You play a new soldier aboard the USS Endeavor and you end up orbiting Katanga after a distress call."

Quote from: RidgeTop on Mar 03, 2021, 01:52:21 AM
Really excited for this!

Looks like a great co-op experience and a fine way to celebrate Aliens' 35th. Hopefully it'll succeed where ACM failed.

Have been doing some digging through the official website's assets and found this interesting environment...

Spoiler

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Spoiler

Yeah there's an environment at the 34 second mark in the trailer that looks far more stone/concrete in design than the usual "colonies and corridors"-type stuff we usually see, much more like something out of the Engineer citadel from Covenant. So that'd be great if some ancient Engineer ruins on the planet played into the cause of the outbreak in some way.

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Quote from: SuperiorIronman on Mar 02, 2021, 11:47:08 PM
According to an article someone posted over on the Illfonic boards they played coy about post-launch DLC. It's possible something is in the pipeline but given how soon the release date is and the current state based off the footage I have the feeling they're gonna play it like Star Wars: Squadrons. Basically meaning it will launch and die with the content it has and may do something down the road based on reception but no promises.

Dude. What wrong with you? Сalm down.

From the moment you first comment, all you do is shit on Aliens: Fireteam and pointlessly praise Predator: Hunting Grounds. Why are you so upset? Do you think the 2.5 remaining players in PHG will leave it and go to Aliens: Fireteam?

There are so many lies in your words - the praise of the Illfonic and the impending death of the Fireteam. Maybe toxic enough? Players and reviewers have already drawn conclusions about your beloved PHG.

Woah, Drukathi. Let's take a step-back, that was unnecessary. First rule of the boards are -

Quote- Be Nice & Respecful. Be nice to other members. While a forum is for debating issues, just plain insulting people will not be tolerated.

I don't want to have to ask again. Thanks.

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Quote from: Sapunjero on Mar 03, 2021, 07:57:41 AM
The graphics look like from a mobile game

I think you might want to rewatch the trailer at 1080p. I was surprised at how polished the alpha footage actually looks.

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Quote from: Kailem on Mar 03, 2021, 08:23:07 AM
I'd be totally down for having a VP70M sidearm in this! :laugh:

I know we had the VP78 in AvP 2010, but I don't think (outside of the upcoming RPG expansion) we've seen the actual VP70 in a game?

QuoteAlso a little bit of extra background lore from IGN's article amongst some of the details we already know:

Quote from: IGN"Fireteam is set in 2202, 23 years after the original Alien movie trilogy. At this point in the timeline, Xenomorph outbreaks are rare but the aliens are widely known about. The Colonial Protection Act of 2187 commissioned warships to patrol the universe and protect colonists from Xenomorph outbreaks. You play a new soldier aboard the USS Endeavor and you end up orbiting Katanga after a distress call."

So that lines up with the story direction I'd heard about a while back, where it's a more proactive stance against the Aliens.

Quote from: Corporal Hicks on Mar 03, 2021, 10:15:08 AM
Woah, Drukathi. Let's take a step-back, that was unnecessary. First rule of the boards are -

Quote- Be Nice & Respecful. Be nice to other members. While a forum is for debating issues, just plain insulting people will not be tolerated.

I don't want to have to ask again. Thanks.

Okay, no question, I should have realized a long time ago that the concept of respect and insult is very liquid. It is impossible to guess. I have seen many times how veterans here of this forum could easily allow themselves liberties (including acting like a bullies) with a newcomers and those who are "not in the club" without any consequences. But as soon as someone tries to answer them, he immediately comes across a warning.

Hey guys, loooong time no see! Anyway, after I saw the trailer and read the info about the game in Steam I can say I am really excited. We may finally get a proper CM related shooter.

I have a question tho - in Steam it says "in the epic events that occur 23 years after the original Alien trilogy as a Colonial Marine...", does this means A:R is not considered canon? Also if I remember correctly I think FOX stated that ACM is canon and the events in A3 never happened. Can you tell me whats the real story behind the timeline INCLUDING Fireteam? Which is canon and which isn't? Thanks in advance!

Its on ladies and gentlemen!!!!! Everything eeeends! All other endeavors end tight there motherf****s!!! Six years we've been waiting and look at it! This the shit I have been wsiting for all my life. And yes I live 3rd Person I love everything about this. Give it to me!!! I'm too hype to think clearly. Just wanted ti share this excitement! Love everybody here!  Coming summer lets band tigether no matter who you are! And lets get nasty!!!!!

Idk as cool as the game looks and I love the blood animations this just seems like aliens colonial marines 2. I love Aliens Colonial marines btw but the graphics are not impressive. Still ALIEN

Needs helmets really bad and acid damage.
Not keen with the look and feel, but hopefully the gameplay is somewhat fun and polished. I'd give it a chance (as a simple bug hunt shooter to waste a few hours).
One day a sequel or a spiritual successor to Alien Isolation will be made, I can feel it!

Quote from: WinterActual on Mar 03, 2021, 12:12:49 PM
Hey guys, loooong time no see! Anyway, after I saw the trailer and read the info about the game in Steam I can say I am really excited. We may finally get a proper CM related shooter.

I have a question tho - in Steam it says "in the epic events that occur 23 years after the original Alien trilogy as a Colonial Marine...", does this means A:R is not considered canon? Also if I remember correctly I think FOX stated that ACM is canon and the events in A3 never happened. Can you tell me whats the real story behind the timeline INCLUDING Fireteam? Which is canon and which isn't? Thanks in advance!

(Official) canon has never really been a "thing" with the Alien and Predator universes (up until the Disney acquisition - who knows what they'll do with it). To answer your question though, I think saying "23 years after the original Alien trilogy" is just a lot shorter and simpler than saying "23 years after Alien 3 and approximately 180 years before Alien: Resurrection". Aside from hardcore fans like us, the omission probably won't be noticed by most of their target audience anyway.

I certainly wouldn't read anything more into it than that, and if anything some of the design work in this appears to be taking cues from A:R as it's ultimate trajectory. AVP2010 and A:CM did the same.

The Official Canon:
https://roguereviewer.wordpress.com/2020/10/12/defining-canon-in-an-alien-world/

Just watched the trailer for the first time. Not turned off, but not in love. My two main issues; one, the AI looks freakin' dumb as shit. One of the best things about Isolation in my opinion was the Aliens AI. Too many instances in this short clip of aliens running in a pack, on the floor, in plain sight, bothers me, and I hope this gets adjusted (probably wont). Second, my favorite variation of an Alien is the runner, cant really explain it, but its my number 1, with that said; however, almost all the xenos in this video are runners, most of them do not have dorsal spines, some do, but most them that referred to up top as pack chasing appear to be rather small i.e. AVP and are runners. Is the a animal colony??? LOL I don't mind changes to the universe or creativity, but I'm a little annoyed by this. I'm still gonna play it, but my excitement level is tempered. We need Isolation 2!!!!!

Quote from: Trash Queen on Mar 03, 2021, 02:59:16 PM
The Official Canon:
https://roguereviewer.wordpress.com/2020/10/12/defining-canon-in-an-alien-world/

I would definitely add "License" to that, as in "The Official License Canon", as in when you pay for usage of the Alien license, you can't go into AvP or Predators without approval because you haven't paid for those separate licenses. Otherwise looking at only the Alien events in the Fire and Stone series and not the Predators in said series as "events may or may have happened as described" is just so mind numbingly silly. And Predator and AvP has been stated to be in the same universe, but still separate licensing. :)

The way I see it, canon is whichever story I am currently experiencing, because that's the one that matters in the moment.

My list of only Alien media:

(Alien)
Peter Weyland TEDTalk
David Commercial
Elizabeth Shaw's Proposal
USCSS Prometheus Transmission
Prometheus
Walter Commercial
Elizabeth Shaw's Navigation
Alien Covenant
U.S.C.S.S Covenant Transmission
David's Drawings

ALIEN Theatrical Edition
ALIEN Isolation
Alien Blackout
(Aliens Defiance)
(Alien Prototype)
(Aliens Resistance)
(Aliens Rescue)
Alien Echo
Aliens Special Edition
Alien: The Cold Forge
Alien³ Special Edition
Alien: Into Charybdis
Alien: The RPG
Aliens: Infiltrator
Aliens: Fireteam
Dust To Dust
Dead Orbit
Alien Resurrection
The Weyland Yutani Report
Aliens: Phalanx

Where's AvPR???   ;D

Personally, it seems a little too similar to ACM to me, at least going by the current trailer.

The marketing for this game would have been better if they focused on what makes this game unique, the differences compared to other alien games. Isolation worked for many reasons, one of them being that it was focused on the first film and was not a gun-ho typical alien game. So far this is advertising just like ACM did. I wonder if the trailer is even using actual game assets.

Once again not liking the the drone Aliens running on all fours either, and yes I did notice one did run on two legs,but that still doesn't change the fact they are still using AVP film /acm style movement. Not keen on third-person either but I suppose that is something different.  I find first person to be better in horror genres because you cannot see behind you.

I am not saying I won't give this game a chance but so far I am not convinced by it.  :-\

EDIT.
Having watched the trailer again for a second opinion, I think the ones running on all fours are actually dog aliens as they are lacking the dorsal spines. Runners. which is a nice touch I suppose, though that is lot of Runners.  Plus having to create your own marine is good. I still think it focuses too much on what previous games already show though.

There are lots of details in the trailer so Im going to wait till tomorrow for that new gameplay demo to know for sure if this is going to over shadow ACM .hoping it will.

Quote from: Nightmare Asylum on Mar 03, 2021, 03:46:43 PM
The way I see it, canon is whichever story I am currently experiencing, because that's the one that matters in the moment.

Pretty much how I see it. Trying to make sense of canon in big franchises is pointless. And frustrating, when stuff gets added that you don't like or doesn't really mesh with other stuff. When I watch Alien, Prometheus and Covenant don't exist.

I kinda wish this game wasn't just a 3rd person horde mode game. It's kinda shocking given how long this has supposedly been in development. It seems very bare-bones outside of the weapons customisation. Maybe we'll be pleasantly surprised and it turns out to be super innovative but I'm probably waiting on reviews for this one.

Quote from: Voodoo Magic on Mar 03, 2021, 04:10:26 PM
Where's AvP???   ;D

I have a longer one that includes AVP, Predator and Blade Runner. In addition to older Alien/Predator stuff that still fits into the new canon/continuity but does not officially speaking count in the eyes of newer stuff.

So I noticed this after we did our video or I would've brought it up: Daybreak isn't listed as being involved. Wonder what happened. Perhaps another issue of changing hands and then 20th Century Studios was like, "screw it, we'll just publish it ourselves."

https://twitter.com/alexwhitebooks/status/1366806063555698690

This game is gonna have a hard time beating the Epic legacy of ALIENS: Colonial Marines. 

  Despite the loud minority of people online, most people that did play ACM liked or loved it, last I check it also was highly requested to be backwards compatible on the Xbox One and the new Xbox Anaconda, I am calling it what its leaked prototype name was, not the "X X box X X box" or whatever.

  This game better have the Phased Plasma Pulse Rifle from ACM or the PPIG from the Marine Technical Manual, and on the aliens side, Aliens from ACM, including the ones they couldnt fit into the game.   If it has no story and has none of the above, and if its free to play on weekends on Xbox, I might not buy it.

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Oh and since everyone is into crossovers, I will forgive some of the issues I have with the game if they have Master Chief in it, it can be done, right now we can have Master Chief vs Aliens vs Predator vs Terminator in Fortnite.   I dont care if he is just a skin in Aliens: Fireteam, it needs to be done.

Quote from: Voodoo Magic on Mar 03, 2021, 03:25:32 PM

Quote from: Trash Queen on Mar 03, 2021, 02:59:16 PM
The Official Canon:
https://roguereviewer.wordpress.com/2020/10/12/defining-canon-in-an-alien-world/ (https://roguereviewer.wordpress.com/2020/10/12/defining-canon-in-an-alien-world/)

I would definitely add "License" to that, as in "The Official License Canon", as in when you pay for usage of the Alien license, you can't go into AvP or Predators without approval because you haven't paid for those separate licenses. Otherwise looking at only the Alien events in the Fire and Stone series and not the Predators in said series as "events may or may have happened as described" is just so mind numbingly silly. And Predator and AvP has been stated to be in the same universe, but still separate licensing. :)

Throwing the word License in confuses as much as it resolves because unless things changed as of the Disney takeover, the prequels, or at least Prometheus, are a separate license to the other Alien content too. 

Go back to the grid with your absolute nonsense Rinzler.

Quote from: Trash Queen on Mar 03, 2021, 07:40:04 PM
Go back to the grid with your absolute nonsense Rinzler.

Trust me, you don't want to have to put up with endless arguments and personal attacks, so best to just ignore him if you disagree with him.

Quote from: The Cruentus on Mar 03, 2021, 07:43:29 PM

Quote from: Trash Queen on Mar 03, 2021, 07:40:04 PM
Go back to the grid with your absolute nonsense Rinzler.

Trust me, you don't want to have to put up with endless arguments and personal attacks, so best to just ignore him if you disagree with him.

Cancerblack makes personal attacks?

Quote from: [cancerblack] on Mar 03, 2021, 07:31:43 PM

Quote from: Voodoo Magic on Mar 03, 2021, 03:25:32 PM

Quote from: Trash Queen on Mar 03, 2021, 02:59:16 PM
The Official Canon:
https://roguereviewer.wordpress.com/2020/10/12/defining-canon-in-an-alien-world/ (https://roguereviewer.wordpress.com/2020/10/12/defining-canon-in-an-alien-world/)

I would definitely add "License" to that, as in "The Official License Canon", as in when you pay for usage of the Alien license, you can't go into AvP or Predators without approval because you haven't paid for those separate licenses. Otherwise looking at only the Alien events in the Fire and Stone series and not the Predators in said series as "events may or may have happened as described" is just so mind numbingly silly. And Predator and AvP has been stated to be in the same universe, but still separate licensing. :)

Throwing the word License in confuses as much as it resolves because unless things changed as of the Disney takeover, the prequels, or at least Prometheus, are a separate license to the other Alien content too.

Years ago I would be in a similar headspace when Prometheus appeared to be it's own thing, but not since Alien Covenant roped David, the Engineers, all of Prometheus back in.  :)

Quote from: Voodoo Magic on Mar 03, 2021, 07:45:26 PM

Quote from: The Cruentus on Mar 03, 2021, 07:43:29 PM

Quote from: Trash Queen on Mar 03, 2021, 07:40:04 PM
Go back to the grid with your absolute nonsense Rinzler.

Trust me, you don't want to have to put up with endless arguments and personal attacks, so best to just ignore him if you disagree with him.

Cancerblack makes personal attacks?

No, Rinzler does, arguments with him tend to quickly get heated. So its best to just ignore him rather than try to debate.

Quote from: Trash Queen on Mar 03, 2021, 07:40:04 PM
Go back to the grid with your absolute nonsense Rinzler.

Sorry but Facts Trumps Feelings.   ACM is one of the best FPS games made, let alone Alien game.   The majority of people liked it, and if it wasn't liked at all, it wouldn't be requested by the fans to made backwards compatible on Xbox, it had way more votes to be BWC than AvP3. 

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Quote from: Voodoo Magic on Mar 03, 2021, 07:45:26 PM

Quote from: The Cruentus on Mar 03, 2021, 07:43:29 PM

Quote from: Trash Queen on Mar 03, 2021, 07:40:04 PM
Go back to the grid with your absolute nonsense Rinzler.

Trust me, you don't want to have to put up with endless arguments and personal attacks, so best to just ignore him if you disagree with him.

Cancerblack makes personal attacks?

Quote from: [cancerblack] on Mar 03, 2021, 07:31:43 PM

Quote from: Voodoo Magic on Mar 03, 2021, 03:25:32 PM

Quote from: Trash Queen on Mar 03, 2021, 02:59:16 PM
The Official Canon:
https://roguereviewer.wordpress.com/2020/10/12/defining-canon-in-an-alien-world/ (https://roguereviewer.wordpress.com/2020/10/12/defining-canon-in-an-alien-world/)

I would definitely add "License" to that, as in "The Official License Canon", as in when you pay for usage of the Alien license, you can't go into AvP or Predators without approval because you haven't paid for those separate licenses. Otherwise looking at only the Alien events in the Fire and Stone series and not the Predators in said series as "events may or may have happened as described" is just so mind numbingly silly. And Predator and AvP has been stated to be in the same universe, but still separate licensing. :)

Throwing the word License in confuses as much as it resolves because unless things changed as of the Disney takeover, the prequels, or at least Prometheus, are a separate license to the other Alien content too.

Years ago I would be in a similar headspace when Prometheus appeared to be it's own thing, but not since Alien Covenant roped David, the Engineers, all of Prometheus back in.  :)

Cuentus is apparently talking about me?   Hes a troll I think, since I rarely ever talk and I dont recall fighting people.

Except that wasn't a fact. Saying that most people like it is merely just your opinion. Sure some folks like it, but quite a lot dislike it too.  There is no evidence that those that like it is in the majority.

Quote from: Darth Rinzler on Mar 03, 2021, 07:51:47 PM
Cuentus is apparently talking about me?   Hes a troll I think, since I rarely ever talk and I dont recall fighting people.

Perhaps this will refresh your memory.
https://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/index.php?topic=59719.0

Quote from: The Cruentus on Mar 03, 2021, 07:56:51 PM
Except that wasn't a fact. Saying that most people like it is merely just your opinion. Sure some folks like it, but quite a lot dislike it too.  There is no evidence that those that like it is in the majority.

they had a poll, the majority voted that they liked it over hating it by 2/3rd vote.   Way more people voted for it to be backwards compatible on the Xbox than AvP3. 

Quote from: Voodoo Magic on Mar 03, 2021, 07:45:26 PM
Cancerblack makes personal attacks?

I think I did once with you, where I tried to say I didn't think something was funny but it came off more like I was attacking the art quality, which I didn't realize till days later. My bad.

QuoteYears ago I would be in a similar headspace when Prometheus appeared to be it's own thing, but not since Alien Covenant roped David, the Engineers, all of Prometheus back in.  :)

Just going off what Jarek from Prodos told me about which licenses they were allowed to purchase at the time. Could have changed under the new leadership.

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Quote from: Darth Rinzler on Mar 03, 2021, 07:51:47 PM
Sorry but Facts Trumps Feelings.   ACM is one of the best FPS games made, let alone Alien game.   

This is just delicious.

Polls aren't always reliable, with some you can vote twice with different accounts or as anon. 

Nothing wrong with liking it, but a good fps it isn't.

It is easier to like something is a part of your interests. As an Alien fan, it was easy for me to enjoy some parts of the game, still was a rubbish game in both plot, storytelling and gameplay though.

Quote from: The Cruentus on Mar 03, 2021, 07:48:41 PM

Quote from: Voodoo Magic on Mar 03, 2021, 07:45:26 PM

Quote from: The Cruentus on Mar 03, 2021, 07:43:29 PM

Quote from: Trash Queen on Mar 03, 2021, 07:40:04 PM
Go back to the grid with your absolute nonsense Rinzler.

Trust me, you don't want to have to put up with endless arguments and personal attacks, so best to just ignore him if you disagree with him.

Cancerblack makes personal attacks?

No, Rinzler does, arguments with him tend to quickly get heated. So its best to just ignore him rather than try to debate.

Okay, got it. I don't see any personal attacks going on right now so let's all work to keep it that way and keep it civil ladies and gents!

And sorry about that cancerblack, I thought Trash Queen was jokingly calling you J.W. Rinzler and you can extrapolate the rest from there. I should have scrolled up more!

Quote from: [cancerblack] on Mar 03, 2021, 08:01:40 PM

Quote from: Voodoo Magic on Mar 03, 2021, 07:45:26 PM
Cancerblack makes personal attacks?

I think I did once with you, where I tried to say I didn't think something was funny but it came off more like I was attacking the art quality, which I didn't realize till days later. My bad.

I actually do realize what you're talking about. So thanks, I appreciate that. :)

Let's just cool it.

Stop trolling, Rinzler.

You're fishing for an argument here. You know as well as anyone that was not a majority opinion. And I had some fun with that one myself and appreciated elements about it.

https://www.metacritic.com/game/pc/aliens-colonial-marines
https://steamcommunity.com/app/49540/reviews/?browsefilter=toprated&snr=1_5_100010_

That's not to say everyone thought it was bad, hell, The Guardian gave it 4/5

It's cool if you like it, no one wants to rob you of enjoying it, but that's your opinion, and it certainly isn't a majority one.

It is an easily verifiable fact ACM's infamous, not famous, any aggregate website will tell you as much.

Just look at the comment section of any Official Alien Isolation trailer, or even this one, or design dive's excellent videos on the matter.

(https://64.media.tumblr.com/62d1cbdff27333dfaaabed76e62f5a03/tumblr_n9yie3yXQ41tdhimpo1_500.gif)

And banned. Trolling is against the rules here. Warnings had been given.

ACM is one of the best fps games out there, what? No game magazine or website or youtuber have even given it any good grade and its infamous for being bad :P  AVP3 is way better, the youtuber generallots who disliked avp3 in 2010 and made a review now regrets it and says its good and superiour to acm, if he had known about the future xD

Trash queen: yep, quite fashinated by the rpg and its also written so well that it fits into most alien stories from the past, the writers on it did a great job. Should be the official canon.
Im intriged to see how a alien runner would look like with the back tubes on it as I think it says they get when they get older :P

As some said: is also disapointed in seeing the drone/warriors who should run on their legs are running on all four in the videos and the AI not anywhere better than acm aliens who attacked in the same way :/

ACM is so good that it and Prometheus almost killed the franchise, so good that Alien Isolation having good scores was the only thing that kept this entire series from being canned like Duke Nukem, such a good game right guys

Without a proper PVP/VS mode, this game will die in a month. Just like the othere titles. As horrible as Colonial Marines was, at least they tried pvp multiplayer to be a thing.

Quote from: judge death on Mar 03, 2021, 10:51:18 PM

As some said: is also disapointed in seeing the drone/warriors who should run on their legs are running on all four in the videos and the AI not anywhere better than acm aliens who attacked in the same way :/

i think they only showed it that way but i would think it would crawl/run on all fours as well.

We only saw 4 Drones and warriors in the trailer, and they were all standing up, 80% of the aliens shown were Runners

At the start of the trailer we see some drones with the dorsal tubes walking on all four, all of them. but the rest seem to be runners, but even they walk upright time to time in alien 3. In aliens they ran on all two legs most of the time.

In acm and avp3 they ran on all four for some strange reason which is not like what they do in the movies :/

Yeah, I had corrected my post to clarify that they seem to be Runners.

I think it started with the AVP film and the games, before that drones were mostly if not always bipedal unless climbing. Might be wrong there, but I am just going by previous movies and games, not comics.

Quote from: The Cruentus on Mar 03, 2021, 11:28:50 PM
Yeah, I had corrected my post to clarify that they seem to be Runners.

I think it started with the AVP film and the games, before that drones were mostly if not always bipedal unless climbing. Might be wrong there, but I am just going by previous movies and games, not comics.

Correct :)

I'm hoping there's a equal mix of story and online. I hate it when games give you 5hrs worth of actual gameplay (cough EA SW) and the remainder focused on online.

With a gameplay like this I doubt there will be much of a story or content for a single player xD

Honestly you could do amazing scenarios with this game. I could see an amazing campaign based on Aliens Berserker and I saw a comment from Alex White that they could do a great Charybdis one as well (makes me pumped to finish the second half of that book lol)

Basically any scenario involving attacking or escaping an Alien Hive.

I'm not a big gamer nor am I interested in competitive pvp so this kinda game is right up my alley.  I have an Xbox one and about an hour to play it a week, plus I can connect with my two brothers online and play co-op, so it's looking pretty promising to me. 

Quote from: judge death on Mar 03, 2021, 11:25:51 PM
In aliens they ran on all two legs most of the time.

They never run on two legs in Aliens. They crawl, walk, or when they want to move quickly, they leap. The fastest Aliens we see in the movie are all using four limbs -- the Aliens in the vents, the Alien that gets to the elevator when Hicks and Ripley are leaving, and the Aliens leaping off the walls towards Ripley in the hive.

Quote from: SiL on Mar 04, 2021, 12:26:48 AM

Quote from: judge death on Mar 03, 2021, 11:25:51 PM
In aliens they ran on all two legs most of the time.

They never run on two legs in Aliens. They crawl, walk, or when they want to move quickly, they leap. The fastest Aliens we see in the movie are all using four limbs -- the Aliens in the vents, the Alien that gets to the elevator when Hicks and Ripley are leaving, and the Aliens leaping off the walls towards Ripley in the hive.

When climbing on walls and roof yes but in operations room when they jump and runs towards the marines they are standing on two legs and moving in that way, the one assaulting towards ripley was standing on two legs and running towards her upright, not on all four :) The xeno in alien moved on two most of the movie besides when climbing in the brett scene.

It wasn't running at her, it was maybe lunging a little quickly.

My point is they never run on two feet. They sometimes leap from a crouching position, but running down a hallway on two legs is not something we see them doing.

Can I just say that the running on two feet animation looks extremely goofy? Like it looks meme quality goofy, it gave me a good chuckle. Its like the running skeleton gif

(https://external-content.duckduckgo.com/iu/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fmedia1.tenor.com%2Fimages%2F9acb644d42d57a0e48e9af148d3913c3%2Ftenor.gif%3Fitemid%3D13763940&f=1&nofb=1)

Several ones are clearly standing upright, and the one coming at ripley even falls back standing upright after being shot.
In this scene two are stanind upright:

(https://images-wixmp-ed30a86b8c4ca887773594c2.wixmp.com/f/7d6993df-3d77-4fbb-878f-4afdb136d515/def997x-8e964a88-b1f3-4106-975b-232d549494e2.jpg/v1/fill/w_1196,h_668,q_70,strp/aliens_standing_by_warrior1944_def997x-pre.jpg?token=eyJ0eXAiOiJKV1QiLCJhbGciOiJIUzI1NiJ9.eyJzdWIiOiJ1cm46YXBwOiIsImlzcyI6InVybjphcHA6Iiwib2JqIjpbW3siaGVpZ2h0IjoiPD03MTUiLCJwYXRoIjoiXC9mXC83ZDY5OTNkZi0zZDc3LTRmYmItODc4Zi00YWZkYjEzNmQ1MTVcL2RlZjk5N3gtOGU5NjRhODgtYjFmMy00MTA2LTk3NWItMjMyZDU0OTQ5NGUyLmpwZyIsIndpZHRoIjoiPD0xMjgwIn1dXSwiYXVkIjpbInVybjpzZXJ2aWNlOmltYWdlLm9wZXJhdGlvbnMiXX0.Ff1C6dyNH3XoLrYtQpnnacVJuz1Xr3b_xO-V463U5fY)

I am not saying that they do not stand upright.

I am saying they do not run upright.

Specifically, running. They obviously stand upright many times (although the two in your screenshot are actually climbing over things).

Indeed, they do run on all four, but the games show them only doing that, should show them standing and moving upright too is what im saying, seen drones and warrior move on two legs but in the avp games: never.

Apart from in Classic and Isolation I'd argue, in 2 most often hunched if not on all fours, in 3 most often on all fours only upright when attacking.

AvP and AvP 2 show them moving around on two legs unless specifically using the crawling action. AvP for the Jaguar and AvP 2010 show them moving on all fours as a default.

Crawling does make figuring out how they'd transition from floor to wall easier.

Though on two feet they either look like stompy or;
(https://steamuserimages-a.akamaihd.net/ugc/972124142072165117/01BDFFB848831AAE791EDAE200B8B13456E2CE54/)

At least to me. I just haven't seen a happy medium where they look good running rather than just doing the Runner.

I want to believe in this so f**king bad. A co-op Aliens game is what I've been waiting for for years. I loved Isolation, but I was f**ked by Colonial Marines, so I'll be waiting for reviews.

I thought we called it a runner because it can run both ways.
During the lead scene in Alien 3, it switches to 2 feet briefly.

If you can time stop it at around 1:01, besides seeing the length of its beautiful tail, you can see it.
As the distance closes, it's momentum forward becomes a lunge.

Isolation was probably the first time we've seen a giger run.

We call it runner because AvP2 and AVPE called it of runner

Dog Alien! ;D

The Dragon.

Looking forward to the footage today!

Quote from: SiL on Mar 04, 2021, 12:26:48 AM

Quote from: judge death on Mar 03, 2021, 11:25:51 PM
In aliens they ran on all two legs most of the time.

They never run on two legs in Aliens. They crawl, walk, or when they want to move quickly, they leap. The fastest Aliens we see in the movie are all using four limbs -- the Aliens in the vents, the Alien that gets to the elevator when Hicks and Ripley are leaving, and the Aliens leaping off the walls towards Ripley in the hive.

Those circumstances actually required crawling though, the vents are not that big and any movement on walls and ceilings would require all their limbs. That being said, you are right in that there is no outright running, but you do see what we getting at right?

Feels like what Colonial Marines should have been (MP/co-op-wise). Seems like Left 4 Dead in the Aliens Universe (which is awesome). I want it to succeed, and I loved Isolation, but I can't forget about Colonial Marines. If they price it accordingly, are fairly transparent about everything, and no lootboxes, I'll consider it.

Seriously, co-op with friends blasting Aliens and playing well? I want that. But it had better be good.

My initial response to the trailer when I first saw it was "meh" but the more I've been watching it the more I'm actually starting to get excited by this! Roll on summer 😎

My initial reaction was very Mac like... I'm gonna have me some fun!

Excited for gameplay later!

Quote from: Voodoo Magic on Mar 04, 2021, 01:59:19 PM
My initial reaction was very Mac like... I'm gonna have me some fun!

Careful, we know how that ended.  :laugh:

"I seeee you."

At least we didn't have to wait 7 years for this to come out.

Seven years between Alien and Aliens.
Seven years between Isolation and Fireteam.

After watching the gameplay video, I have minor nerd gripes, but overall it looks at least good. I hope the difficulty can be ramped up significantly.

Copy A:CM > Put 3rd person > Paste  ::)

Quote from: The Cruentus on Mar 04, 2021, 10:54:44 AM

Quote from: SiL on Mar 04, 2021, 12:26:48 AM

Quote from: judge death on Mar 03, 2021, 11:25:51 PM
In aliens they ran on all two legs most of the time.

They never run on two legs in Aliens. They crawl, walk, or when they want to move quickly, they leap. The fastest Aliens we see in the movie are all using four limbs -- the Aliens in the vents, the Alien that gets to the elevator when Hicks and Ripley are leaving, and the Aliens leaping off the walls towards Ripley in the hive.

Those circumstances actually required crawling though, the vents are not that big and any movement on walls and ceilings would require all their limbs. That being said, you are right in that there is no outright running, but you do see what we getting at right?

Yep! We saw big chap crawling on all four in the airducts when Dallas was trying to hunt it, if it cant stand then it will go on all four, and same for when climbing. Tons of photos of the warrior and behind the scenes where we see them run/stand on bipeds and not on all four, although they can, no doubt about that. We also see the dog alien stand on two, like when it attacks clemens and lifts him up in the air 2 meters up and headbiting him, or when in the piston chase, standing on two and screams at one prisoner at the same height, and then you see it also turn around and chase after one on two legs, but its normal stance is on all four, after all it came from a dog/ox and has the legs designed for it. While the warrior and drones have normal human legs that makes it design wise tough and exhausting to walk on all four for long times.

From the book: the book of alien, usmc version of weyland yutani report:
Page 96: Warriors are bipedal creatures and can move on all four if needed and will do so when climbing or walking on the ceiling.
Page 110: Dog alien/runner moves differently from the others, mainly on all four, and has been proven to be able to spit acid.
Page 116: drones/workers sheed their dome as they age and gets the warriors ridged heads.
Page 119: Drones/workers can spit acid.
Page 145: Warriors: a bipedal xenomrph, around same height as a drone. Drone: a bipedal xenomorph. Alien runner/dog alien: a quadripodal xenomorph.

From weyland yutani report book:
Page 24: Dog alien/runner is a quadripodal xenomorph unlike its human hosted bipedal cousins.
Page 20: the creatures limb development depends on the hosts design as the xeno creature adapts to the hosts enviroment. (Later on its shown they take memory and inteligence from the host as well).

Dont find the alien funny when running on two, the xenomorph in isolation did that a lot and was scary as hell when it did and it was a drone, only difference in overall to the warrior would be the dome, else a warrior would look pretty much the same when running:
https://youtu.be/UMSaaHX3uTY?t=319



But enough about this, the point is: would be nice to see the warrior and drones to walk and at times run on their two legs like in isolation and not only moving on all four at all times, preferably they chose stance and movement type depending on what is safest and makes it hardest to kill them :)

Quote from: judge death on Mar 04, 2021, 08:19:00 PM

From the book: the book of alien, usmc version of weyland yutani report:

What is this?

(https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/I/51v0h4lFjmL._SX258_BO1,204,203,200_.jpg)

Nothing is clear. Link to wiki or another site? Larger image?

UPD. I found. https://www.amazon.com/Book-Alien-Augmented-Reality-Survival/dp/0062695363

Some moments cause questions

Example. Page 116: drones/workers sheed their dome as they age and gets the warriors ridged heads.

Sounds like a cringe theory of molts when Big Chap turns into a warrior in a few days. Correct me if I'm wrong.

(https://images-wixmp-ed30a86b8c4ca887773594c2.wixmp.com/f/7d6993df-3d77-4fbb-878f-4afdb136d515/defazax-90719623-c92f-49e0-ae8d-505890de8933.jpg/v1/fill/w_774,h_1032,q_70,strp/alien_page_116_by_warrior1944_defazax-pre.jpg?token=eyJ0eXAiOiJKV1QiLCJhbGciOiJIUzI1NiJ9.eyJzdWIiOiJ1cm46YXBwOiIsImlzcyI6InVybjphcHA6Iiwib2JqIjpbW3siaGVpZ2h0IjoiPD0xMjgwIiwicGF0aCI6IlwvZlwvN2Q2OTkzZGYtM2Q3Ny00ZmJiLTg3OGYtNGFmZGIxMzZkNTE1XC9kZWZhemF4LTkwNzE5NjIzLWM5MmYtNDllMC1hZThkLTUwNTg5MGRlODkzMy5qcGciLCJ3aWR0aCI6Ijw9OTYwIn1dXSwiYXVkIjpbInVybjpzZXJ2aWNlOmltYWdlLm9wZXJhdGlvbnMiXX0.ru5a2nkuRDKfU1ijdFJEiPd5Yn9tmD-MXa1HmBzRPOw)

Sounds good to me and goes much deeper into the xenomorphs than weyland yutani report does and shares much same info, but froma  colonial marine inteligence view on the matter.

Quote from: The Cruentus on Mar 04, 2021, 10:54:44 AM
Those circumstances actually required crawling though, the vents are not that big and any movement on walls and ceilings would require all their limbs. That being said, you are right in that there is no outright running, but you do see what we getting at right?

I never said they weren't ever bipedal, literally just that they never run on two legs as Judge Death had said :P

They're frequently upright, but it's never shown as their preferred method of getting anywhere quickly. That's all. I know the games take it too far and have them crawling almost all the time.

Yeah AVP2010 wasn't the best experience to play as an Alien. The 8 to 9ft monster is reduced to waist high and it loses its intimidation.

Quote from: The Cruentus on Mar 04, 2021, 09:39:03 PM
Yeah AVP2010 wasn't the best experience to play as an Alien. The 8 to 9ft monster is reduced to waist high and it loses its intimidation.

Alien vs predator classic/1999 has the same issue, and playing as a marine the xenos are smaller than you xD

Monolith'swas great, you actually had the choice to either crawl or move bipedely. Now there is a game that could use a remake.

Even standing upright the Aliens seemed smaller than the marine :laugh:

Actually, they are pretty big, but the FOV makes em look small, aswell as their pose, but they are movie accurate size wise, with the warrior being even bigger
(https://i.imgur.com/Z7CgFnT.png)

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Even the other marines look small on your screen :laugh:

I meant in AvP Classic, for the record.

I'm not a big fan of 3rd person games and I'm really not sure why they went for it here.

Probably to show off the character customization

Better for the visual character customisation and to separate itself a bit more from Colonial Marines would be my guess.

Quote from: Kailem on Mar 05, 2021, 12:57:26 AM
Better for the visual character customisation and to separate itself a bit more from Colonial Marines would be my guess.

But character customisation would benefit from how the other players see you and there could be some cutscenes when the mission starts/ends. Getting aliens to look as intimidating as possible would come first. If the aliens would attack more from behind then the size issue would be less critical but the gameplay showed mostly straight waves coming from forward.

Look how they massacred my boys.

After watching more of the gameplay I'd say the hype behind the game has gone down. I'll still buy and play it, but I was expecting a more in depth Alien game that I assumed was coming our way.

Quote from: reecebomb on Mar 05, 2021, 01:15:45 PM

Quote from: Kailem on Mar 05, 2021, 12:57:26 AM
Better for the visual character customisation and to separate itself a bit more from Colonial Marines would be my guess.

But character customisation would benefit from how the other players see you and there could be some cutscenes when the mission starts/ends.

Other players can still see you in third-person.

Quote from: Gentleman Death on Mar 05, 2021, 06:59:56 PM
After watching more of the gameplay I'd say the hype behind the game has gone down. I'll still buy and play it, but I was expecting a more in depth Alien game that I assumed was coming our way.

The last 4 years we've been expecting some sort of online-only loot shooter like destiny or anthem. I'm much happier with this alternative. Even if something with a lil more thematic depth like Isolation 2 would have been preferable.

Well I mean anything's better than that to be honest.

Yeah it's kind of a dodged bullet but this won't be making anyone take the Alien seriously again either unfortunately. Releases like Isolation/Cold Forge/Phalanx haved helped a little in that regard at least.

I can see the reviews now "Four hours?!"

It feels like GTFO, but with acid bleeding Xenos...
Why not 6-3 player squad for multiplayer or single player campaigns?
Really hope it is not just online multiplayer... 

You can play with bots too, but no true Single Player.

I do like the look of the Engineer environment though, if nothing else I always enjoy exploring them, and also scrutinizing them. Ha ha 

Wish there was a deacon.

If only, The Pathogen makes for superb variety.

Valleys of petrified corpses, exploding humans and animals, every kind of Neomorphic being you can imagine whether human or animal.

Variations of Neomorph itself from Motes and Pods, variations of Trilobite depending upon whether from a human or the type of animal, variations on the Deacon.

And none of it, undermines the singular Alien.

Could've done a mode where you could be exposed to it. Spawn some horrid thing and start hunting your former teammates.

Even with The Pathogen's rules that David explains, and the Neomorph like appearance in everything created by it, with creativity you can still do so much with it.

Hi, does anyone know the exact release date? we already have summer around the corner ...

Quote from: khas on May 16, 2021, 01:28:38 PM
Hi, does anyone know the exact release date? we already have summer around the corner ...

Anyone's guess at this point....I'll guess August!

Someone asked them, twitter I think, and they said they are still on track for summer release. August is my guess too.

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https://www.reddit.com/r/AliensFireteamGame/comments/ncg0er/fireteam_still_on_track_for_its_release_date/

I'm assuming August too.

Even though many of us don't really see it through this prism, I guess technically they do have until the last day of Summer which is September 22nd.

Either way... New Aliens game this year! That's good enough for me. :-)

I prefer it comes out in August or September when more people have access to the new generation of consoles.

Quote from: Trash Queen on May 17, 2021, 11:44:18 AM
I prefer it comes out in August or September when more people have access to the new generation of consoles.

It is still coming out on PS4/XBox1 and lower spec PCs.

I'm aware of this.

I'd really LIKE to have a PS5 by the time this comes out, but from what I'm hearing, console scarcity may last into next year.

Hoping for an Xbox Series X.

Like every new console, I'll just wait....especially with them constantly being out of stock.

Quote from: Trash Queen on May 17, 2021, 11:44:18 AM
I prefer it comes out in August or September when more people have access to the new generation of consoles.

That's a tall order given scalpers buying out stock left and right and we're in the midst of a chip shortage. You're lucky if you can find either console.

I've resigned myself to the fact upgrading this year might have to wait.

It is a situation and a half alright.

I upgraded to the Xbox One X at the start of the pandemic so I'll be hanging on to that for quite a few more years yet.

First world problems eh?