https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/movies/movie-news/new-predator-movie-badlands-1235820958/
QuoteFilmmaker Dan Trachtenberg and 20th Century Studios are going hunting again.
Trachtenberg, who earned an Emmy nomination for his 2022 Predator movie Prey, is returning to the sci-fi action horror franchise to make a new installment.
Titled Badlands, the new Predator feature is not a sequel to Prey, which was set in 1719 and centered on a young Comanche woman forced to fight for survival against the intergalactic hunters, but rather a brand new story. Plot details are being kept secret but this one is said to be set sometime in the future. Like Prey, however, it too will feature a female lead.
QuoteWhen Prey premiered in the summer of 2022, It not only broke streaming records for Hulu but earned some of the best reviews in the franchise's history the culminated in a nomination for best movie at this years Emmys. Since that successful relaunch, 20th Century is looking to not just move forward with another film but expand on a universe with Trachtenberg spearheading it.
Sources say while it is still in early development, a Prey 2 is still in the works that would return to the films original setting and with the films star, Amber Midthunder, potentially returning. Sources stress no talent is attached to that film but the interesting element is that even though there has been seven films featuring the infamous alien, there has never been an instance where the star of a previous film has returned to reprise their role
OH SHIT HERE WE GO
EDIT: https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/movies/movie-news/new-predator-movie-badlands-1235820958/
YO IT'S SET IN THE FUTURE
Badlands and also potentially Prey 2 8)
Yep, article says this isn't the only Predator project in development.
Man, a future set-Predator. Yes, please. If it's on Earth, I hope for something a bit more Mad Max and less Blade Runner but...lemme see what you got, Trachtenberg. I'm here for the ride. 8)
Quote from: Nightmare Asylum on Feb 09, 2024, 06:12:46 PMYep, article says this isn't the only Predator project in development.
Man, a future set-Predator. Yes, please. If it's on Earth, I hope for something a bit more Mad Max and less Blade Runner but...lemme see what you got, Trachtenberg. I'm here for the ride. 8)
It's so funny.. this morning the news broke that David Leitch's discussions for the new Jurassic movie fell apart and I was saying they should hire Dan Trachtenberg to do it. Of course.. minutes later he's announced to be working on 2 new Predator movies :laugh:
While my Jurassic hopes are squandered.. I will happily accept TWO more Predator movies from this man.
Ah shit, here we go again
Check it out: https://deadline.com/2024/02/dan-trachtenberg-predator-movie-badlands-1235820417/
Quote from: marrerom on Feb 09, 2024, 06:42:22 PMCheck it out: https://deadline.com/2024/02/dan-trachtenberg-predator-movie-badlands-1235820417/
yyeess!
Thinking a bit about Dane Hallett's post from a few months ago about wanting to get on board the new Predator project and now, knowing that Badlands is set in the future, that seems to put it even more up his alley. Get him on board to design the Predator's kit; mask, weaponry, etc.
"Badlands isn't the only Predator project in the works. The surprise success of Prey crossed from critics to audiences and reinvigorated the franchise. Now the studio is planning a host of Predator projects, with Trachtenberg at the center."
More than just this new movie! Predator is officially back, baby! ;D
EDIT: AND it says Prey 2 is also in the works, separate from Badlands! :o TWO new Predator films are in the works!!
The Hollywood Reporter's version of the article also says that Badlands is going to be set at some point in the future and feature another female lead.
https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/movies/movie-news/new-predator-movie-badlands-1235820958/
THR says it's set sometime in the future that's exciting
We are eating good, folks, real good.
My English is bad... ;D
Future with respect to PREY (post- PREY, western in 1870 for example). OR Future Scfi ( western post-apocaliptic maybe)???.
Quote from: Nightmare Asylum on Feb 09, 2024, 06:08:06 PMOH SHIT HERE WE GO
EDIT: https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/movies/movie-news/new-predator-movie-badlands-1235820958/
YO IT'S SET IN THE FUTURE
Alien Predator cinematic universe is coming. :D ;) Hopefully
Awesome news!
Quote from: Darkoo on Feb 09, 2024, 07:00:58 PMAlien Predator cinematic universe is coming. :D ;) Hopefully
That's funny, cause "future" could go in a
lot of different ways. Will
Badlands be set in a future that is compatible with the future of the Alien films?
And regarding the future setting, I wonder if it'll even be set on Earth, cause that seems like something that's also totally up in the air right now and could go in either direction.
Blade Runner-esque future city? A
Mad Max style wasteland? An
Aliens-esque colony world (maybe complete with Colonial Marines, if they really want to start dipping their toes back into a shared universe)? Seems like a million and a half different conclusions you can arrive at when you think about what a future setting for this would be.
I do think that, eventually, at some point, Disney/20th Century Studios is going to want to swing around and take a new stab at AVP. But I don't think that the Alien and Predator franchises have to literally cross over in order for that to happen; it can just be a standalone thing that doesn't infringe on the continuities of either. Seeing what
Badlands' outlook of the future is, and how compatible it is with what we know form the Alien films, will probably be our first real taste of the potential of what direction that sort of thing could go in, though.
I think it's best for Alien and Predator to remain separate and have AvP be its own standalone universe
Yay!
Great news!!! Can't wait for ALL the updates to come! 8)
Quote from: MaineXeno on Feb 09, 2024, 07:07:32 PMI think it's best for Alien and Predator to remain separate and have AvP be its own standalone universe
I agree completely. I would be all for seeing a future in
Badlands that is totally incompatible with the future presented in
Alien.
But I do wonder, at this rate, how long it's going to be before the temptation settles in and 20th Century takes their chances with the idea of trying out the crossover again. Especially since it's a new studio and new people calling the shots now.
Whoop! ;D This is fantastic news!
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I posted this in the Prey forum but I guess this is a better place. Mods can merge if needed 8)
Anyways, so excited we're getting more Predator movies!
Quote from: Nightmare Asylum on Feb 09, 2024, 07:11:39 PMQuote from: MaineXeno on Feb 09, 2024, 07:07:32 PMI think it's best for Alien and Predator to remain separate and have AvP be its own standalone universe
I agree completely. I would be all for seeing a future in Badlands that is totally incompatible with the future presented in Alien.
But I do wonder, at this rate, how long it's going to be before the temptation urges for them to take their chances with the crossover again. Especially since it's a new studio and new people calling the shots now.
If Alien: Romulus proves itself to be a success, then they (suits) will probably want that Alien Vs Predator crossover ASAP.
Alien Vs. Predator Vs. Terminator, why not at this point?
But anyway, I got Prey, sure, Predator now Prey, sure.... but not sure about Badlands, hope they change the name.
Can't wait to wake up to FB and see all of the group complain.....
;D
I've reached out to my contacts on this and they've had a "Bad Lands" on the schedule for a few weeks now. Today it is confirmed to be a Predator project. I'm told they are actually going into full shooting "very soon". Can't say that means movie production or some type of marketing, but it seems like this has been going on for a bit now. I noticed Dane had been visiting Studio Gillis a lot in his Instagram stories lately. There's a chance they are already ready to go with this.
Quote from: Mike's Monsters on Feb 09, 2024, 07:20:07 PMI've reached out to my contacts on this and they've had a "Bad Lands" on the schedule for a few weeks now. Today it is confirmed to be a Predator project. I'm told they are actually going into full shooting "very soon". Can't say that means movie production or some type of marketing, but it seems like this has been going on for a bit now. I noticed Dane had been visiting Studio Gillis a lot in his Instagram stories lately. There's a chance they are already ready to go with this.
Damn, son!!
You even got your contacts/sources with the Predator side of the franchise.
Badlands does sound like something out of Mad Max, instead of a more Blade Runner-esque future, so i can't wait to see what they do with it.
The studios will probabky give Dan a bigger budget this time, so he can be a little more ambitious after the more back to basics approach with Prey.
I feel like they have to be planning something big with AvP because there's been no comic announcements or even omnibus's of the Dark Horse stuff
Quote from: Mike's Monsters on Feb 09, 2024, 07:20:07 PMI've reached out to my contacts on this and they've had a "Bad Lands" on the schedule for a few weeks now. Today it is confirmed to be a Predator project. I'm told they are actually going into full shooting "very soon". Can't say that means movie production or some type of marketing, but it seems like this has been going on for a bit now. I noticed Dane had been visiting Studio Gillis a lot in his Instagram stories lately. There's a chance they are already ready to go with this.
Very, very nice. This is all coming together pretty soon then, it seems. And I'd imagine we'll get a proper theatrical release this time around.
Quote from: PortugueseXeno on Feb 09, 2024, 07:23:01 PMBadlands does sound like something out of Mad Max, instead of a more Blade Runner-esque future
Here's hoping. I'd love to see a Predator in that sort of environment.
Quote from: PortugueseXeno on Feb 09, 2024, 07:23:01 PMDamn, son!!
You even got your contacts/sources with the Predator side of the franchise.
I have eyes and ears everywhere. 8)
But for real! I hope they do a theatrical release too. I like to think that they'd learned a huge lesson with watching PREY do so well and it not bringing in ticket sales.
Quote from: Kailem on Feb 09, 2024, 07:12:31 PMhttps://media1.tenor.com/m/8PJYOgCNVzgAAAAd/i-want-you-to-get-the-word-out-there-that-we-back-up-the-wire.gif
Idris Elba in the crabatorverse^
Quote from: Mike's Monsters on Feb 09, 2024, 07:29:05 PMBut for real! I hope they do a theatrical release too. I like to think that they'd learned a huge lesson with watching PREY do so well and it not bringing in ticket sales.
Shifting
Alien: Romulus from Hulu to theatrical definitely felt like them acknowledging that mistake and directly responding to
Prey's success, so here's hoping that continues into the future indeed.
Quote from: Immortan Jonesy on Feb 09, 2024, 07:29:44 PMQuote from: Kailem on Feb 09, 2024, 07:12:31 PMhttps://media1.tenor.com/m/8PJYOgCNVzgAAAAd/i-want-you-to-get-the-word-out-there-that-we-back-up-the-wire.gif
Idris Elba in the crabatorverse^
I'd be down for Idris vs Predator.
And yeah, with them changing Romulus from a streaming release to theatrical after Prey hit so big and everyone said that's what they should have done in the first place, I'd be shocked if these weren't also planned for the big screen this time too.
Quote from: Nightmare Asylum on Feb 09, 2024, 07:31:01 PMShifting Alien: Romulus from Hulu to theatrical definitely felt like them acknowledging that mistake and directly responding to Prey's success, so here's hoping that continues into the future indeed.
Yep. And they seem to be learning and paying attention to everything. They really want these franchises to be the tentpoles they used to be, and they are putting the time and care into making sure they do so. I love it. Just gotta pull it off though. It could look great behind the scenes, but the final product has to deliver. I have faith it will.
Quote from: Mike's Monsters on Feb 09, 2024, 07:33:24 PMQuote from: Nightmare Asylum on Feb 09, 2024, 07:31:01 PMShifting Alien: Romulus from Hulu to theatrical definitely felt like them acknowledging that mistake and directly responding to Prey's success, so here's hoping that continues into the future indeed.
Yep. And they seem to be learning and paying attention to everything. They really want these franchises to be the tentpoles they used to be, and they are putting the time and care into making sure they do so. I love it. Just gotta pull it off though. It could look great behind the scenes, but the final product has to deliver. I have faith it will.
Imagine telling someone that Disney could potentially revive Alien and Predator from obscurity.
I would have that person locked in an asylum.
Quote from: PortugueseXeno on Feb 09, 2024, 07:36:53 PMImagine telling someone that Disney could potentially revive Alien and Predator from obscurity.
I would have that person locked in an asylum.
Well, this does seem to be the perpetual cycle.
From "Disney bought Marvel? That'll never work!" to "I love the MCU, it's the biggest thing on the planet!" to "The MCU sucks now, Disney ruined it."
From "Disney bought Star Wars? That's terrible!" to "
The Force Awakens saved Star Wars from those awful prequels!" to "Bring back George Lucas, Disney ruined Star Wars!"
It all comes in waves, over and over and over again.
If there's one thing you can count on Disney for it's understanding the value of IP.
Them going to the future is f**king awesome, and it shows they aren't trying to lean in too heavily on the past thing. It may have been great for PREY, but if we only got movies set in the past going forward, I think it would get old fast.
Watch this be a set up and test for a potential AvP. Would be wild.
Quote from: Mike's Monsters on Feb 09, 2024, 07:48:33 PMThem going to the future is f**king awesome, and it shows they aren't trying to lean in too heavily on the past thing. It may have been great for PREY, but if we only got movies set in the past going forward, I think it would get old fast.
Watch this be a set up and test for a potential AvP. Would be wild.
I still think that they should have done one or two more movies in the past (Assassin's Creed style) and then try their luck with their future, since that seemed to be the consensus of the fandom and general audience.
Maybe they are being ambitious way too soon, but then again, the same could be said when Prey was made, but Dan has a good track record, so might as well trust in him.
So excited for both of these. Female lead and being set in the future sounds really good, I'd love a 10 Cloverfield Lane reunion with Mary Elizabeth Winstead.
So guess the fan theory of having a Prey series and a Predator series of past and present/future films are true after all! We are so back. :'( Like everyone back in 2018 had no idea that things really are going to get better after all.
At first I thought Badlands was going to be a 19th century Wild West setting but turns out its not even close. Shame in a way, would be cool to see the whole frontier being challenged by a Predator. How far into the future will it be and I wonder if it will touch on old elements like OWLF. One can hope, seeing how Dan said he gotten inspiration from PHG when animating Feral's tree predkour.
Quote from: Mr.Turok on Feb 09, 2024, 07:57:32 PMSo guess the fan theory of having a Prey series and a Predator series of past and present/future films are true after all! We are so back. :'( Like everyone back in 2018 had no idea that things really are going to get better after all.
At first I thought Badlands was going to be a 19th century Wild West setting but turns out its not even close. Shame in a way, would be cool to see the whole frontier being challenged by a Predator. How far into the future will it be and I wonder if it will touch on old elements like OWLF. One can hope, seeing how Dan said he gotten inspiration from PHG when animating Feral's tree predkour.
Past, future, whatever. All are totally viable, in my book. I just want to see different settings/genres explored. For me, the whole appeal of Predator as an ongoing franchise is taking a movie genre and dropping a Predator into it.
Predator,
Predator 2, and
Prey got this, and that's exactly what I'm looking forward to now with
Badlands.
Set in the future.
Female lead.
Badlands.
There's really only one thing this should be:
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Predator vs The Widow. Come on Dan, make it happen!
Quote from: Nightmare Asylum on Feb 09, 2024, 07:42:40 PMQuote from: PortugueseXeno on Feb 09, 2024, 07:36:53 PMImagine telling someone that Disney could potentially revive Alien and Predator from obscurity.
I would have that person locked in an asylum.
Well, this does seem to be the perpetual cycle.
From "Disney bought Marvel? That'll never work!" to "I love the MCU, it's the biggest thing on the planet!" to "The MCU sucks now, Disney ruined it."
From "Disney bought Star Wars? That's terrible!" to "The Force Awakens saved Star Wars from those awful prequels!" to "Bring back George Lucas, Disney ruined Star Wars!"
It all comes in waves, over and over and over again.
After how hard 2018 failed, I hope the studio can manage consistent quality and avoid another sin like that. Would hate to see the "Predator sucks now, Disney ruined it" stage of things.
Quote from: Nightmare Asylum on Feb 09, 2024, 07:58:52 PMPast, future, whatever. All are totally viable, in my book. I just want to see different settings/genres explored. For me, the whole appeal of Predator as an ongoing franchise is taking a movie genre and dropping a Predator into it. Predator, Predator 2, and Prey got this, and that's exactly what I'm looking forward to now with Badlands.
Seeing how Carl recently passed away, my hope is to have Arnold reprise his role in a Dutch 2025 Predator Hunter story before it's too late. That and old King Conan film!
Badlands is such a good title, I keep thinking of the Australian outback or the Badlands here in the states. Could be anything else too. Just never thought to see the day that
we are getting two Predator films. Here I was thinking that it was all just Alien handies. Hope we can get a great game from it too, PCJ had something special and should be followed suit.
Quote from: Mr.Turok on Feb 09, 2024, 08:09:06 PMAustralian outback
Further fueling my desire for a
Mad Max-esque Wasteland setting for
Badlands. :laugh: Could do it on Earth, could do it on another planet. Whatever works!
2 bad news these past days. The death of the great Carl weathers. And ; a new " predator " " movie " from Dan trachtenberg
Very sad
Quote from: Nightmare Asylum on Feb 09, 2024, 08:12:54 PMQuote from: Mr.Turok on Feb 09, 2024, 08:09:06 PMAustralian outback
Further fueling my desire for a Mad Max-esque Wasteland setting for Badlands. :laugh: Could do it on Earth, could do it on another planet. Whatever works!
Just imagine the soundtrack. Fury Road's was amazing and Prey's did a remarkable job too. Wonder if a collab between both composers is possible.
Quote from: Stop on Feb 09, 2024, 08:13:56 PM2 bad news these past days. The death of the great Carl weathers. And ; a new " predator " " movie " from Dan trachtenberg
Very sad
You came up with that yourself?
Damn. A new Alien-film, Alien-series and at least 2 new Predator movies...
Great times to be an Alien and Predator fan.
this will be great!
Quote from: kwisatz on Feb 09, 2024, 08:20:52 PMYou came up with that yourself?
More a case of
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Quote from: Immortan Jonesy on Feb 09, 2024, 08:41:21 PMQuote from: Corporal Hicks on Feb 09, 2024, 08:20:18 PMhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eziHVj3Aeq8
Yeah, I wonder how far into the future... is there going to be something cyberpunk?
I genuinely think that, unless it's a Predator 2 "15 minutes into the future"-type setting, they'll be missing a trick if they don't at least leave it open to the *possibility* of fitting in with the Alien universe, if not just outright unambiguously being set in it.
I know there are people who are dead-set in keeping them separate, but frankly, that ship sailed back in 1989/90. They just work too damn well together, to say nothing of all the literal movies, games, comics and overt references we've had over the years of them being linked. At this point the biggest mistake a "far future" kinda setting for something like this could make would be to make it impossible for said setting to be reconciled with the Alien universe.
Quote from: Kailem on Feb 09, 2024, 08:49:49 PMQuote from: Immortan Jonesy on Feb 09, 2024, 08:41:21 PMQuote from: Corporal Hicks on Feb 09, 2024, 08:20:18 PMhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eziHVj3Aeq8
Yeah, I wonder how far into the future... is there going to be something cyberpunk?
I genuinely think that, unless it's a Predator 2 "15 minutes into the future"-type setting, they'll be missing a trick if they don't at least leave it open to the *possibility* of fitting in with the Alien universe, if not just outright unambiguously being set in it.
I know there are people who are dead-set in keeping them separate, but frankly, that ship sailed back in 1989/90. They just work too damn well together, to say nothing of all the literal movies, games, comics and overt references we've had over the years of them being linked. At this point the biggest mistake a "far future" kinda setting for something like this could make would be to make it impossible for said setting to be reconciled with the Alien universe.
Idk how people think that's hard to make too. Events of pre-Prometheus Alien films and Predator films happen in AVP but AVP doesn't happen in Alien series. Think how Marvel does it with Spiderman for example, its not that hard.
https://twitter.com/DDNumeroUno/status/1756049392501661905
Quote from: Mr.Turok on Feb 09, 2024, 08:55:52 PMQuote from: Kailem on Feb 09, 2024, 08:49:49 PMQuote from: Immortan Jonesy on Feb 09, 2024, 08:41:21 PMQuote from: Corporal Hicks on Feb 09, 2024, 08:20:18 PMhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eziHVj3Aeq8
Yeah, I wonder how far into the future... is there going to be something cyberpunk?
I genuinely think that, unless it's a Predator 2 "15 minutes into the future"-type setting, they'll be missing a trick if they don't at least leave it open to the *possibility* of fitting in with the Alien universe, if not just outright unambiguously being set in it.
I know there are people who are dead-set in keeping them separate, but frankly, that ship sailed back in 1989/90. They just work too damn well together, to say nothing of all the literal movies, games, comics and overt references we've had over the years of them being linked. At this point the biggest mistake a "far future" kinda setting for something like this could make would be to make it impossible for said setting to be reconciled with the Alien universe.
Idk how people think that's hard to make too. Events of pre-Prometheus Alien films and Predator films happen in AVP but AVP doesn't happen in Alien series. Think how Marvel does it with Spiderman for example, its not that hard.
I don't even know why people would want it to still be separate like that. Just have them all take place in the same universe, as they have in countless games, comics and multiple movies already. Simple.
Quote from: Kailem on Feb 09, 2024, 08:58:38 PMI don't even know why people would want it to still be separate like that. Just have them all take place in the same universe, as they have in countless games, comics and multiple movies already. Simple.
Probably because of how f**king dogshit the AvP films were.
At this point you could argue that Predator has a better batting average than Alien as far as the series with the most number of good movies goes. It's not like Alien on its own without anything Predator-related is all gold either.
Future could be in reference to a time period after Prey. Battle of the Badlands?
I'd argue that Alien hasn't had a bad film at all, although one has problems and one is too weird for most people.
Predator has 3 great films, an alright but bland one, and a true stinker.
AvP has yet to do anything good on film at all, but I'd be fine with things being merged if something good was made, and the previous ones thrown in the trash where they belong.
You're over-thinking it. Future means our future.
I'm certainly not going to defend the AVP movies we got, but the concept itself has so much untapped potential (on film) that at the very least I wouldn't want to see a new Predator movie that might conceivably be set around the same sort of timeframe as Alien to totally invalidate even the possibility of them taking place in the same universe.
I'd be fine with it not making/having any Alien references at all and just focus on being a damn good Predator movie, but it'd suck if they were like "in a future where androids and AI were immediately outlawed because blahblahblah" and have it be pretty much impossible to ever link the two again.
I'd even be fine with some explicit Alien (more likely Aliens) tech showing up in a future-set Predator movie. I was just addressing your question about why people would want things separate right now.
Fair point. I wouldn't be thrilled with seeing another AVP movie if they somehow managed to mess it up yet again either. But I'm definitely down for them slowly building up to it with these upcoming Alien and Predator movies and hopefully doing it right this time.
Some gotta remember that while Disney is the parent company now, 20th Century Studios still very much runs as its own entity, and never stopped. The Mouse isn't making all the decisions.
Quote from: Corporal Hicks on Feb 09, 2024, 08:57:36 PMhttps://twitter.com/DDNumeroUno/status/1756049392501661905
I knew it.
Yep, lot of credit where credit is due to what Steve Asbell has been pulling off these last few years. His head seems to be in the right place.
Quote from: Nightmare Asylum on Feb 09, 2024, 07:31:01 PMQuote from: Mike's Monsters on Feb 09, 2024, 07:29:05 PMBut for real! I hope they do a theatrical release too. I like to think that they'd learned a huge lesson with watching PREY do so well and it not bringing in ticket sales.
Shifting Alien: Romulus from Hulu to theatrical definitely felt like them acknowledging that mistake and directly responding to Prey's success, so here's hoping that continues into the future indeed.
Bob Iger explained this.
The Creator, A Haunting in Venice, Romulus,...and more movies Fox to Hulu before Iger returns Disney.
Bob Iger changue this. Iger Want PREY in cinema but late return to Disney.
Quote from: RIP77 on Feb 09, 2024, 09:37:12 PMQuote from: Nightmare Asylum on Feb 09, 2024, 07:31:01 PMQuote from: Mike's Monsters on Feb 09, 2024, 07:29:05 PMBut for real! I hope they do a theatrical release too. I like to think that they'd learned a huge lesson with watching PREY do so well and it not bringing in ticket sales.
Shifting Alien: Romulus from Hulu to theatrical definitely felt like them acknowledging that mistake and directly responding to Prey's success, so here's hoping that continues into the future indeed.
Bob Iger explained this.
The Creator, A Haunting in Venice, Romulus,...and more movies Fox to Hulu before Iger returns Disney.
Bob Iger changue this. Iger Want PREY in cinema but late return to Disney.
Plenty of other 20th Century Fox/Studios films released theatrically between Disney's acquisition of Fox and the time that their obligation to send their theatrical releases to HBO Max for a bit of time lapsed. They bit the bullet on theatrical releases for plenty of other movies while that HBO deal was in place, but not for
Prey. If they knew that
Prey was going to be the smash hit it ended up being, I think they would have been willing to lose the streaming rights to HBO for a window of time in exchange for the $$$ that a theatrical release would have brought in, especially since they would have just gotten the streaming rights back again in a year or so anyways.
f**kin' A! Looking forward to seeing what they come up with. Badlands to me suggests old west/desert, interesting that they say it's future set.
:o Wow I put my phone down a few hours I check the Internet and the new Predator out of nowhere now confirmed. Was pleasantly surprised to the quality of Prey and I wish them well on what's to come.
Future, or far off future? "Badlands" gives very Borderlands-sounding vibes to me and immediately makes me think of future Alien tie-in (not wishing for this to be honest.)
I love the "host of projects" that the article mentioned. Prey has definitely reinvigorated the franchise, it's a good time to be a fan ;D
Well ok then :)
I thought Prey was excellent and really tapped into the feel of Predator 87's third act with Dutch's preparation and the general feeling of solitude. If they can up the sense of dread and unease on this one I'll be all for it.
Not too keen on the idea of 'universe' however, we all saw how The Predator ended up...
Quote from: Nightmare Asylum on Feb 09, 2024, 09:43:12 PMQuote from: RIP77 on Feb 09, 2024, 09:37:12 PMQuote from: Nightmare Asylum on Feb 09, 2024, 07:31:01 PMQuote from: Mike's Monsters on Feb 09, 2024, 07:29:05 PMBut for real! I hope they do a theatrical release too. I like to think that they'd learned a huge lesson with watching PREY do so well and it not bringing in ticket sales.
Shifting Alien: Romulus from Hulu to theatrical definitely felt like them acknowledging that mistake and directly responding to Prey's success, so here's hoping that continues into the future indeed.
Bob Iger explained this.
The Creator, A Haunting in Venice, Romulus,...and more movies Fox to Hulu before Iger returns Disney.
Bob Iger changue this. Iger Want PREY in cinema but late return to Disney.
Plenty of other 20th Century Fox/Studios films released theatrically between Disney's acquisition of Fox and the time that their obligation to send their theatrical releases to HBO Max for a bit of time lapsed. They bit the bullet on theatrical releases for plenty of other movies while that HBO deal was in place, but not for Prey. If they knew that Prey was going to be the smash hit it ended up being, I think they would have been willing to lose the streaming rights to HBO for a window of time in exchange for the $$$ that a theatrical release would have brought in, especially since they would have just gotten the streaming rights back again in a year or so anyways.
Yes. Contracts prior to the Fox purchase obligated premiere in cinema ( Iger tell this obligated premiere New Mutants, West side story and 30 movies more becose contracts old with prodcution to premiere cinema not premiere plataform ...Iger not want New Mutants premiere in cinema but esplained than break contracts is bad and difficult . Not is only HBO contracts, is contracts with casting, productors, director ect.. of movies Fox in post-produccion , obligated premiere in cinema) . PREY not. PREY pre-produccion and green light in Disney with Fox 100%. Not contracts prior to buy with obligated premiere in cinema. Contracts with HBO yes.
Iger explained this after PREY premiere in Hulu becose a hit.
The normal is Badlands is released in cinemas like Romulus and the rest ( some ) of Fox. New model for Fox movies with Iger.
Quote from: morseman on Feb 09, 2024, 09:48:10 PMWell ok then :)
I thought Prey was excellent and really tapped into the feel of Predator 87's third act with Dutch's preparation and the general feeling of solitude. If they can up the sense of dread and unease on this one I'll be all for it.
Not too keen on the idea of 'universe' however, we all saw how The Predator ended up...
Yeah, the doubling down on the feeling of horror/dread instead of just plain science fiction did such a service to the movie. It's something that I think should be maintained as Trachtenberg explores the universe...really, it's one of the few things that keeps the Predators fearsome instead of...hokey?
I thought Prey was good, a step in the right direction, only thing I would change would be the CGI, needs better cgi or practical effects, I think the next one will be great, probably will get a better budget too. One thing I know everyone will complain about is the female lead, people will nonstop bring that up, and while I get where they are coming from I don't think it's that serious but oh well
New predator movie!!! Yes! New alien movie out later this year with Romulus. We are eating GOOD ladies and gents....one might say ... a banquet. Ahem. I'll sign out off now.
.. as an edit it's interesting they're going with another female lead. They absolutely knocked it put of the park last time. I hope they can do it again!
That's pretty friggin awesome to hear that two Predator movies are in the works.
Here's hoping for more dynamic and colorful characters this time around and memorable action moments... and a classic predator face.
A new standalone in the future AND a Prey sequel. give me all the things!!!
we've been waiting and waiting for word on a Prey follow-up, and not only do we get that we get word of TWO new movies. A standalone in the future AND a Prey sequel?! YES, give me all the things!!!
And based on the timeline 'Badlands' is definitely coming out next year.
I have been extremely sick this past week, quite the pick me up to wake up to today.
Want another solo Predator videogame now as well!
Outstanding news! I truly hope for a return to the classic Stan winston face design for this next one.
Quote from: BlueMarsalis79 on Feb 09, 2024, 11:25:01 PMI have been extremely sick this past week, quite the pick me up to wake up to today.
Want another solo Predator videogame now as well!
Hope you feel better soon!
Set in the future eh?
Another female lead eh?
Machiko Noguchi... hmmm?
Of course that's wishful thinking as we know that would be not just a Predator film.
they kept dan in the loop. i hope they use the same script writer and build on what has previously worked. is dan the cameron of the pred franchise.?
good for the pred franchise.
Had hope you guy could corroborate this. Looking forward to the next installment.
Sounds neat, not too keen on a second woman protag, would like to see a new male action star face off against the Predator again.
But not being a sequel to Prey is a surprising move. Guess they're going for an anthology this time. With a title like Badlands, guess this might be post apocalyptic, or dystopian future?
Also, please get the f**king face right this time (again).
"Sometime in the future"....wow, that line alone opens up many fascinating possibilities.
We know the Predator fandom, or at least a big chunk of it, have always wanted a Predator film set in the future. Now what kind of future scenarios do you want to see in new Predator film?
Since we've been talking about nods to Alien with this, either a convict labour project (more outdoors, in a construction phase of operations), or colony undergoing a "hostile takeover" by corporate assets. I'd watch either. "Badlands" implies neither though, definitely more post-apoc vibes.
"future" is definitely nebulous and could mean anything. it could be not-too-distant future, it could be distant future, it could be Blade Runner/Alien or Star Trek or it could be Mad Max. the choice of "Badlands" as a working title is interesting.
So hyped! Great news! Seems to be a new golden age for Predator films from a release standpoint considering "Prey" came out roughly 4 years after "The Predator" so this new film will likely follow that trend of a 3-4 year gap between releases. Closest comparison would be the aughts with AVP '04, AVPR '07, and Predators'10. But a new original film and a follow up sequel is some dream come true shit lol!
Perfect!
https://twitter.com/kateesackhoff/status/1756105991093895658
Quote from: oduodu on Feb 10, 2024, 12:15:55 AMthey kept dan in the loop. i hope they use the same script writer and build on what has previously worked. is dan the cameron of the pred franchise.?
good for the pred franchise.
James Cameron only directed one film...
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Quote from: The Shuriken on Feb 10, 2024, 12:36:02 AMSounds neat, not too keen on a second woman protag, would like to see a new male action star face off against the Predator again.
Who cares when they're cool af? Naru and Taabe were more badass than any of the protagonists we've had since Dutch and Dylan.
We've had like 4 (5 if you include AvPR) predator movies with dudes in the lead role... I think we can survive having two female-led predator movies back to back. And if Prey is any indication, I'm sure you'll get your fill of badass dudes in this one as well.
Nailed it.
Love the idea of a future setting; for me, I hope there are no Alien universe Easter eggs or attempt to tease a future AvP (but instead is simply used as a proof of concept with the setting).
I think I'd like to see the type of future seen in 'Dredd' - not cyberpunk or flying cars etc, just run down, dilapidated crime-ridden mega structures surrounded by the badlands, its own sort of cursed-Earth post-nuclear war or whatever, with scorching sun from climate change making it a really desirable hunting ground (playing on the "only in the hottest years this happens" from Predator 1 & 2).
I'd love to see a very gritty/grungy "90s" view of the future with characters that wouldn't look out of place in 2000ad comics, or a Rob Zombi / Spawn / Hardware / Crow City of Angels movie (that sort of feel). A total contrast from Naru, a sorta street-smart, greasy haired/cigarette smoking, ripped leggings, gun wielding ' take-no-shit survivor in the underworld with a bad attitude' kinda lead. (A female take on Rutger Hauer's character from 'Split Second'? maybe?) bad-cop vibes, with the narcotics taken from the Alien 3-esque scum in her territory lowering body temperature in the scorching apocalypse giving her an edge over the Predator.
Unlikely. But you know...
Quote from: BlueMarsalis79 on Feb 09, 2024, 11:25:01 PMI have been extremely sick this past week, quite the pick me up to wake up to today.
Want another solo Predator videogame now as well!
Hope you recover soon.
And when I heard project, my mind also went for a solo single player Predator videogame. This has been long overdue. Concrete Jungle had a fantastic concept but just didn't hit the nail on the head that well and Hunting Grounds is just abandoned. Its now owed to us to have a Predator game that equals or surpasses in quality to the recent Alien games.
Quote from: Scott Conover on Feb 10, 2024, 01:46:16 AMQuote from: The Shuriken on Feb 10, 2024, 12:36:02 AMSounds neat, not too keen on a second woman protag, would like to see a new male action star face off against the Predator again.
Who cares when they're cool af? Naru and Taabe were more badass than any of the protagonists we've had since Dutch and Dylan.
We've had like 4 (5 if you include AvPR) predator movies with dudes in the lead role... I think we can survive having two female-led predator movies back to back. And if Prey is any indication, I'm sure you'll get your fill of badass dudes in this one as well.
Meh. I have my preference. I thought Naru was ok, but wasn't really wowed by her. Just would prefer a male action hero to fight the Predator. It's kinda like....and this will be a little out of nowhere. Liking the original super saiyan, and just being lukewarm on super saiyan blue. I like the way things were before, while new stuff has been ok. I just like a more classical pair up.
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Quote from: Nightmare Asylum on Feb 09, 2024, 09:26:39 PMYep, lot of credit where credit is due to what Steve Asbell has been pulling off these last few years. His head seems to be in the right place.
I would absolutely be down for Iger being shitcanned with extreme prejudice and Asbell taking his spot one day.
Going to Enjoy this.
Cool title, but a little skeptical about being set in the future. The Predator-only stories set in the future have been a bit mediocre.
And great that we are getting 2 movies! Maybe Dan should have done Prey 2, while somebody else tackled this future story.
Quote from: ace3g on Feb 10, 2024, 01:23:18 AMhttps://twitter.com/kateesackhoff/status/1756105991093895658
Now i want to see Katee Sackhoff fight a Predator.
A number of actress' have been voicing their enthusiasm for 'Badlands' and jumping at the opportunity to be in it. It's really awesome to see the positivity for the franchise outside of the fanbase.
Quote from: RoguePred1987 on Feb 10, 2024, 11:38:52 AMA number of actress' have been voicing their enthusiasm for 'Badlands' and jumping at the opportunity to be in it. It's really awesome to see the positivity for the franchise outside of the fanbase.
What are the other actresses?
But yeah, it's really cool to see that much posivity surrounding the franchise.
I'm curious to see what they have planned. There's something I must confess, is there a formula/ rule for the the series written in stone that the hero under insurmountable always defeats the Predator at the end? is it wrong of me that I hope we someday get Predator movies where the Predator wins/Survives the hunt? Just to make it a bit fresh, different unexpected.
Quote from: XENOMORPHOSIS on Feb 10, 2024, 01:13:20 PMI'm curious to see what they have planned. There's something I must confess, is there a formula/ rule for the the series written in stone that the hero under insurmountable always defeats the Predator at the end? is it wrong of me that I hope we someday get Predator movies where the Predator wins/Survives the hunt? Just to make it a bit fresh, different unexpected.
Yeah, would like to see that too.
One thing I hope for in future movies is not re-using quotes/scenes/music beats from the first movie. Those are some of the issues I had with Predators and Prey.
I need the Predator to actually look like the Predator this time. It's the most important part of every Predator movie to me. I don't think I can handle a second Feral.
Now the clock starts ticking until either my hype, or immeasurable disappointment.
Quote from: ace3g on Feb 10, 2024, 02:25:09 PMOne thing I hope for in future movies is not re-using quotes/scenes/music beats from the first movie. Those are some of the issues I had with Predators and Prey.
hatehatehate stuff like that
Spoiler
hatehate
The one thing I definitely don't want in the next movie is the damn stupid Wilhelm scream. Couldn't believe they used that in Prey, took me right out of the movie for the next 5 minutes or so...
Quote from: Rankles75 on Feb 10, 2024, 05:11:11 PMThe one thing I definitely don't want in the next movie is the damn stupid Wilhelm scream. Couldn't believe they used that in Prey, took me right out of the movie for the next 5 minutes or so...
I imagine people put that in movies purpose. Wilhelm scream is classic. Outdated but still classic.
Weird question I'm asking, but much like many of the comics back in the day, Predator c Jessie James, Predayor vs Tarzan, Predator vs Batman etc do you suppose 20th Century Studios/Disney would be open to licence Predator and collaborate along with another studio and intellectual property for a cross over movie, I give Alien vs Predator a pass because the two are compatible with the type of monsters they are and genre, whereas something like a Jason Bourne, John Wick or Super Hero is very very very unlikely, would turn out ridiculous and be working against the 20th century studios aim of all them profits from themselves. Is it out of the realm of possibility they'd consider allowing Predator to be utilised in such a movie crossover if the circumstances allow for it?
Glad this thread got tidied up faster than I could hit "report".
Cool news to hear. I do wish one day we get a sequel to Predators 2010
Quote from: XENOMORPHOSIS on Feb 10, 2024, 06:17:00 PMWeird question I'm asking, but much like many of the comics back in the day, Predator c Jessie James, Predayor vs Tarzan, Predator vs Batman etc do you suppose 20th Century Studios/Disney would be open to licence Predator and collaborate along with another studio and intellectual property for a cross over movie, I give Alien vs Predator a pass because the two are compatible with the type of monsters they are and genre, whereas something like a Jason Bourne, John Wick or Super Hero is very very very unlikely, would turn out ridiculous and be working against the 20th century studios aim of all them profits from themselves. Is it out of the realm of possibility they'd consider allowing Predator to be utilised in such a movie crossover if the circumstances allow for it?
Is Tarzan in public domain? I'm not sure, I don't think he is but its worth looking into. If enough confidence in the franchise builds on the studio side of things it would be nice if they considered some animated DTV's. Thats how the AVP anime got started, a handful of folks at 20th saw the continuing success WB has with DC DTV's and wanted to try starting their own.
The one that popped up in my timeline first;
https://x.com/LesleyAnnBrandt/status/1756171382629831025?s=20 (https://x.com/LesleyAnnBrandt/status/1756171382629831025?s=20)
Quote from: [cancerblack] on Feb 10, 2024, 06:54:34 PMGlad this thread got tidied up faster than I could hit "report".
Déjà vu, right?
Quote from: Rankles75 on Feb 10, 2024, 05:11:11 PMThe one thing I definitely don't want in the next movie is the damn stupid Wilhelm scream. Couldn't believe they used that in Prey, took me right out of the movie for the next 5 minutes or so...
I have to agree with you. I never noticed it until someone pointed it out, and now every time I hear it, ugh :-\
Quote from: [cancerblack] on Feb 10, 2024, 06:54:34 PMGlad this thread got tidied up faster than I could hit "report".
What's did I miss? The usual "woke" crap?
Quote from: RoguePred1987 on Feb 10, 2024, 07:41:12 PMIs Tarzan in public domain? I'm not sure, I don't think he is but its worth looking into.
Tarzan books, yes. Tarzan the trademarked character, no.
Quote from: SiL on Feb 10, 2024, 08:56:11 PMQuote from: [cancerblack] on Feb 10, 2024, 06:54:34 PMGlad this thread got tidied up faster than I could hit "report".
What's did I miss? The usual "woke" crap?
With an added dose of bringing up trans stuff for no reason.
If anyone wants to hear me gush about the news, I made a little video. I may also have shown a little tease of something I have from ROMULUS. Very tease. Much Excite.
At 2:21? The thing that looks like Big Chap with a spiky head next to the blurred plaque?
Quote from: SiL on Feb 10, 2024, 10:50:03 PMAt 2:21? The thing that looks like Big Chap with a spiky head next to the blurred plaque?
That is a Super7 figure (https://www.justgeek.com/products/official-alien-super7-reaction-figure-alien-warrior-dusk-brown?currency=USD&gad_source=1&gclid=CjwKCAiA2pyuBhBKEiwApLaIOw5MOAsSM88thIS17vvGdjfEhbawSRy3IdwoJIiNHxSwujxTIcUNJRoCIiEQAvD_BwE). But the blurred thing on the other hand...
Quote from: Mike's Monsters on Feb 10, 2024, 11:03:29 PMQuote from: SiL on Feb 10, 2024, 10:50:03 PMAt 2:21? The thing that looks like Big Chap with a spiky head next to the blurred plaque?
That is a Super7 figure (https://www.justgeek.com/products/official-alien-super7-reaction-figure-alien-warrior-dusk-brown?currency=USD&gad_source=1&gclid=CjwKCAiA2pyuBhBKEiwApLaIOw5MOAsSM88thIS17vvGdjfEhbawSRy3IdwoJIiNHxSwujxTIcUNJRoCIiEQAvD_BwE). But the blurred thing on the other hand...
Yeah I thought the blurred thing was the thing, just wanted to make sure I described the scene.
That bit with RidgeTop was cute.
If production is to start soon, within this year. That means that so much behind the scenes must already be done. Predator design, filming locations, unannounced casting.
Perhaps it won't be long after till we see what this Predator looks like.
@The ShurikenDo you suppose the creature effects gig will either go to atom Woodruff jr or Alec Gillis effects sconce there partnership has separated, or could it go to Legacy Effects formally Stan Winston studios, depends who's schedule is clear, can meet the requirements of the budget. Hope they keep what works, learn from mistakes that were made and improve. Hopefully there's again of practical effects and cgi.
looking forward to the future setting where the predators have mastered autism
I've heard things are shooting tests very soon. As in the next month or so.
Meaning production has already been well under way.
Quote from: Mike's Monsters on Feb 11, 2024, 02:17:26 AMI've heard things are shooting tests very soon. As in the next month or so.
Meaning production has already been well under way.
Was this movie seemingly unaffected by the writers and actors strike? It had to be in pre-production by that time, and the strikes delayed and pushed back a lot of movies.
Yet this one seems full speed ahead.
No idea. Could have been written before the strikes. I'd noticed Dan and Dane both have visited Studio Gillis in the last few months. So I'm putting two and two together and assuming things have been going on for a while. But knowing they've got some tests coming up tells me they are a lot further along than we probably thought initially.
Would love to see something come out of Dane Hallett's desire to get on Badlands last year (https://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/index.php?topic=66487.0).
Quote from: BlueMarsalis79 on Feb 10, 2024, 11:45:04 PMThat bit with RidgeTop was cute.
Always love dropping a little cute
@RidgeTop moment here and there.
Also cute was the statement that some day, we'll hear more about Blomkamp's project.
I was never particuarly excited about that movie itself, but I am VERY excited to learn as much as I can about what it was going to be.
I hope that we get no more subspecies/super/hybrid Preds this time around and just get a mainstream Predator with color and facial variations that can have a proper closed mandibles. PHG had a great idea with various colors/patterns, and facial details like more tusks, horns, quills, and scars. That should be followed than just another JH color scheme.
(https://cdn2.unrealengine.com/phg-u2-pred-cust-1-3840x2160-224211015.jpg)
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Quote from: Nightmare Asylum on Feb 11, 2024, 02:48:10 AMAlso cute was the statement that some day, we'll hear more about Blomkamp's project.
I was never particuarly excited about that movie itself, but I am VERY excited to learn as much as I can about what it was going to be.
The second I get the okay I'm spilling all the beans I can.
Quote from: Mr.Turok on Feb 11, 2024, 03:49:11 AMI hope that we get no more subspecies/super/hybrid Preds this time around and just get a mainstream Predator with color and facial variations that can have a proper closed mandibles. PHG had a great idea with various colors/patterns, and facial details like more tusks, horns, quills, and scars. That should be followed than just another JH color scheme.
https://cdn2.unrealengine.com/phg-u2-pred-cust-1-3840x2160-224211015.jpg
https://external-content.duckduckgo.com/iu/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fimages.hdqwalls.com%2Fwallpapers%2Fpredator-hunting-grounds-2020-4k-23.jpg&f=1&nofb=1&ipt=37a96c769d37547813184a351d8ec28b73d4368692c2a56463cc7c816e65decc&ipo=images
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https://preview.redd.it/bionic-predator-artwork-by-ivan-dedov-v0-fvhw9i1k78m91.jpg?width=1920&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=27d8ad4835347b6f398baad9f2749350fca1d959
It's unfortunate that we have to "hope" for any of that. Instead of being excited for how the new Predator looks, we are all just waiting to see how awful it will be.
Quote from: The Shuriken on Feb 11, 2024, 07:51:01 AMQuote from: Mr.Turok on Feb 11, 2024, 03:49:11 AMI hope that we get no more subspecies/super/hybrid Preds this time around and just get a mainstream Predator with color and facial variations that can have a proper closed mandibles. PHG had a great idea with various colors/patterns, and facial details like more tusks, horns, quills, and scars. That should be followed than just another JH color scheme.
https://cdn2.unrealengine.com/phg-u2-pred-cust-1-3840x2160-224211015.jpg
https://external-content.duckduckgo.com/iu/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fimages.hdqwalls.com%2Fwallpapers%2Fpredator-hunting-grounds-2020-4k-23.jpg&f=1&nofb=1&ipt=37a96c769d37547813184a351d8ec28b73d4368692c2a56463cc7c816e65decc&ipo=images
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It's unfortunate that we have to "hope" for any of that. Instead of being excited for how the new Predator looks, we are all just waiting to see how awful it will be.
After 20 years of hopping and trying to get the fans to be united about that design problem, I've stopped.
Now, would you wish to watch a parody like Prey with a pred who looks cool ? Would you enjoy that pred in a very politically oriented bad movie ? I think not, I know I can't, that would be a waste.
Like with Prey, of course there already was a Predator: Badlands fan movie, featuring Cowboys vs. Predators:
https://www.facebook.com/predatorthebadlands/
Feral's a cool bloke.
Quote from: Mike's Monsters on Feb 11, 2024, 07:40:30 AMQuote from: Nightmare Asylum on Feb 11, 2024, 02:48:10 AMAlso cute was the statement that some day, we'll hear more about Blomkamp's project.
I was never particuarly excited about that movie itself, but I am VERY excited to learn as much as I can about what it was going to be.
The second I get the okay I'm spilling all the beans I can.
speaking of: what's the usual nda expiration date on things like this...
because that thing was in development in 2015. It's been a while.
Quote from: Mr.Turok on Feb 11, 2024, 03:49:11 AMI hope that we get no more subspecies/super/hybrid Preds this time around and just get a mainstream Predator with color and facial variations that can have a proper closed mandibles. PHG had a great idea with various colors/patterns, and facial details like more tusks, horns, quills, and scars. That should be followed than just another JH color scheme.
Spoiler
(https://cdn2.unrealengine.com/phg-u2-pred-cust-1-3840x2160-224211015.jpg)
(https://external-content.duckduckgo.com/iu/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fimages.hdqwalls.com%2Fwallpapers%2Fpredator-hunting-grounds-2020-4k-23.jpg&f=1&nofb=1&ipt=37a96c769d37547813184a351d8ec28b73d4368692c2a56463cc7c816e65decc&ipo=images)
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I like these a lot. There's so much that can be done with a new Predator's appearance that has nothing to do with making them an entirely different species. Tattoos, more "body hair", different hair styles, scars, amputations, etc. Build upon the classic look with individual characteristics that can set them apart from each other.
Quote from: skhellter on Feb 11, 2024, 01:19:20 PMQuote from: Mike's Monsters on Feb 11, 2024, 07:40:30 AMQuote from: Nightmare Asylum on Feb 11, 2024, 02:48:10 AMAlso cute was the statement that some day, we'll hear more about Blomkamp's project.
I was never particuarly excited about that movie itself, but I am VERY excited to learn as much as I can about what it was going to be.
The second I get the okay I'm spilling all the beans I can.
speaking of: what's the usual nda expiration date on things like this...
because that thing was in development in 2015. It's been a while.
Mine didn't have expiration dates, as I was a guest visiting a studio or someone working on the film. They just lay out that I cannot say anything until given an okay or information comes out officially. It's pretty tight and kinda dumb. But it's complicated. I've been told to keep quiet to not ruin relationships with Blomkamp, even though he's stated he wants nothing to do with the franchise and that a relationship already seemed to be tarnished.
But it's all politics behind the scenes. While we are eager to know every little detail, it's important to know real people were behind the project and there may other reasons we don't have the information due to personal things. Neil may have locked the project down or something, we don't really know. This stuff behind the scenes is never so simple.
I want to share it all. I want to inform the people.
Such exciting news! I figured it was only a matter of time before we heard of another Predator film on the way but for one to perhaps be filming this year?! It feels like there's more in the works now than at any time before.
Quote from: Mike's Monsters on Feb 11, 2024, 02:40:21 AMQuote from: BlueMarsalis79 on Feb 10, 2024, 11:45:04 PMThat bit with RidgeTop was cute.
Always love dropping a little cute @RidgeTop moment here and there.
<3
Quote from: Nightmare Asylum on Feb 11, 2024, 02:48:10 AMAlso cute was the statement that some day, we'll hear more about Blomkamp's project.
I was never particuarly excited about that movie itself, but I am VERY excited to learn as much as I can about what it was going to be.
Regardless of story details that may have not gone over well, I've always loved Blomkamp's style and was really bummed out when this fell through. I get it may be a sore topic for those involved, but I would also like to learn more about it eventually and I still feel a book should be published compiling all of the fascinating artwork that was produced.
Quote from: Wysps on Feb 11, 2024, 03:40:45 PMQuote from: Mr.Turok on Feb 11, 2024, 03:49:11 AMI hope that we get no more subspecies/super/hybrid Preds this time around and just get a mainstream Predator with color and facial variations that can have a proper closed mandibles. PHG had a great idea with various colors/patterns, and facial details like more tusks, horns, quills, and scars. That should be followed than just another JH color scheme.
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I like these a lot. There's so much that can be done with a new Predator's appearance that has nothing to do with making them an entirely different species. Tattoos, more "body hair", different hair styles, scars, amputations, etc. Build upon the classic look with individual characteristics that can set them apart from each other.
I always liked Feral's design and although his unmasked face was a shock at first, I never hated it and actually started liking it. But I do agree that I think it's time for a more traditional looking Predator to make a return after the last three films. He can still have unique coloration, design elements, mask & armor that give him (or her) individual character.
Go woke, go broke? More like:
Go woke, save the franchise, make history in cinema and then greenlight 2 new movies.
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That gif makes me wanna see a cinematic "blade-cycle".
And yeah honestly for the problems I did have with prey, it's honestly really good. I don't think the "woke" talking points apply at all. It was a genuinely successful sequel whose biggest issue was that it launched in the wrong place.
Any idea who's doing the FX on this one?
Being woke is not a talking point at all, being woke is infact good. Alien is for example very woke.
There can be something said for big corpos slapping a rainbow on something and expecting everyone to clap for them (it's bad), but art exploring different perspectives and making a point not to hurt people who are already doing it rough is different (as in, it's good).
Quote from: SuperiorIronman on Feb 12, 2024, 04:26:57 AMAny idea who's doing the FX on this one?
Dane Diliegro has apparently been spending a lot of time at the Studio Gillis offices lately, so it seems likely that Alec Gillis & company are going to be handing the suit again this time around.
Newer, bigger, and badder Predator?
Now is the chance to do something very funny and put this dork on screen.
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Goro Predator deserves his shot at the big screen :)
Quote from: GoroPredator on Feb 13, 2024, 11:22:19 PMGoro Predator deserves his shot at the big screen :)
Your day in the sun will come.
Quote from: Darkoo on Feb 09, 2024, 07:00:58 PMQuote from: Nightmare Asylum on Feb 09, 2024, 06:08:06 PMOH SHIT HERE WE GO
EDIT: https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/movies/movie-news/new-predator-movie-badlands-1235820958/
YO IT'S SET IN THE FUTURE
Alien Predator cinematic universe is coming. :D ;) Hopefully
And it will be part of marvel with all female predators.
Quote from: bobcunk on Feb 14, 2024, 12:24:52 AMAnd it will be part of the marvel with all female predators.
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Waiting for Dan or one of the other Fox execs to RT or post about the movie and then start the Deductive reasoning, Reverse image searching.
Quote from: bobcunk on Feb 14, 2024, 12:24:52 AMAnd it will be part of the marvel with all female predators.
Oh, was it a female Predator that fought Wolverine in that crossover?
Quote from: PAS Spinelli on Feb 12, 2024, 04:33:34 AMBeing woke is not a talking point at all, being woke is infact good. Alien is for example very woke.
I never thought that Alien it's woke, so I think that Alien doesn't enter in that category
Have you thought very hard about why you don't think Alien is woke, but (I'm assuming here) do think other things are?
Quote from: aliens13 on Feb 14, 2024, 02:04:44 AMQuote from: PAS Spinelli on Feb 12, 2024, 04:33:34 AMBeing woke is not a talking point at all, being woke is infact good. Alien is for example very woke.
I never thought that Alien it's woke, so I think that Alien doesn't enter in that category
Mmmm, movie with female lead where she is the voice of reason, where a non white side character gets also a ton of spotlight, that has a monster that is an allegory for sexual assault and that is against corporations..... mmmm no wokeness here guys
Alien is very woke, SPECIALLY for the time it was made in. And once again, being woke isn't bad, being woke is good, thinking being woke is bad is a huge red flag for me.
Quote from: PAS Spinelli on Feb 14, 2024, 03:07:19 AMQuote from: aliens13 on Feb 14, 2024, 02:04:44 AMQuote from: PAS Spinelli on Feb 12, 2024, 04:33:34 AMBeing woke is not a talking point at all, being woke is infact good. Alien is for example very woke.
I never thought that Alien it's woke, so I think that Alien doesn't enter in that category
Mmmm, movie with female lead where she is the voice of reason, where a non white side character gets also a ton of spotlight, that has a monster that is an allegory for sexual assault and that is against corporations..... mmmm no wokeness here guys
Alien is very woke, SPECIALLY for the time it was made in. And once again, being woke isn't bad, being woke is good, thinking being woke is bad is a huge red flag for me.
Revolutionary perhaps, but Ripley has a hard road to get at that point. It isn't like the woke movies of today that just for been the woman protagonist it's better and stronger than everyone from start
Do you think Prey is woke?
Quote from: ace3g on Feb 14, 2024, 12:51:18 AMWaiting for Dan or one of the other Fox execs to RT or post about the movie and then start the Deductive reasoning, Reverse image searching.
Yeah, I do find it odd that 20th Century have yet to make an official announcement. Dan hasn't said a word either (granted he's very busy). Steve Asbell hasn't uttered a response and he's been active, especially promoting the new Planet of the Apes. Then there's Ken Pejoro who has worked on Alien and Predator projects, and he hasn't tweeted a thing. So either they're being told not to say a word or maybe news outlets have taken the rumor and are running with it. It'd be nice to hear something concrete from someone official.
Quote from: aliens13 on Feb 14, 2024, 03:45:29 AMQuote from: PAS Spinelli on Feb 14, 2024, 03:07:19 AMQuote from: aliens13 on Feb 14, 2024, 02:04:44 AMQuote from: PAS Spinelli on Feb 12, 2024, 04:33:34 AMBeing woke is not a talking point at all, being woke is infact good. Alien is for example very woke.
I never thought that Alien it's woke, so I think that Alien doesn't enter in that category
Mmmm, movie with female lead where she is the voice of reason, where a non white side character gets also a ton of spotlight, that has a monster that is an allegory for sexual assault and that is against corporations..... mmmm no wokeness here guys
Alien is very woke, SPECIALLY for the time it was made in. And once again, being woke isn't bad, being woke is good, thinking being woke is bad is a huge red flag for me.
Revolutionary perhaps, but Ripley has a hard road to get at that point. It isn't like the woke movies of today that just for been the woman protagonist it's better and stronger than everyone from start
Also, did you know being woke and being a revolutionary go hand in hand?
Quote from: PAS Spinelli on Feb 14, 2024, 04:30:07 AMQuote from: aliens13 on Feb 14, 2024, 03:45:29 AMQuote from: PAS Spinelli on Feb 14, 2024, 03:07:19 AMQuote from: aliens13 on Feb 14, 2024, 02:04:44 AMQuote from: PAS Spinelli on Feb 12, 2024, 04:33:34 AMBeing woke is not a talking point at all, being woke is infact good. Alien is for example very woke.
I never thought that Alien it's woke, so I think that Alien doesn't enter in that category
Mmmm, movie with female lead where she is the voice of reason, where a non white side character gets also a ton of spotlight, that has a monster that is an allegory for sexual assault and that is against corporations..... mmmm no wokeness here guys
Alien is very woke, SPECIALLY for the time it was made in. And once again, being woke isn't bad, being woke is good, thinking being woke is bad is a huge red flag for me.
Revolutionary perhaps, but Ripley has a hard road to get at that point. It isn't like the woke movies of today that just for been the woman protagonist it's better and stronger than everyone from start
Also, did you know being woke and being a revolutionary go hand in hand?
I was saying that wasn't something comun in that time, doesn't mean that is woke. In my point of view it's not woke, I could explain myself better but the English it's not my language. But what I'm saying for example Prey it's woke, you have this girl that wants to be hunter like the men of the trive but everyone laughs on her, you don't have things like that in Alien
...except for the part where Ripley is right all the time and constantly ignored/overruled, leading to more trouble each time.
Ripley's sex is never the reason she's ignored.
But then neither's Naru's, they just think she's small and incompetent. Which she is until she trains a shitload to get better and even then she still fails until she realises she can use the fact the Predator doesn't think she's a threat to her advantage.
Quote from: SiL on Feb 14, 2024, 05:04:05 AMRipley's sex is never the reason she's ignored.
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Quote from: Dr. Von Predator on Feb 14, 2024, 04:17:54 AMQuote from: ace3g on Feb 14, 2024, 12:51:18 AMWaiting for Dan or one of the other Fox execs to RT or post about the movie and then start the Deductive reasoning, Reverse image searching.
Yeah, I do find it odd that 20th Century have yet to make an official announcement. Dan hasn't said a word either (granted he's very busy). Steve Asbell hasn't uttered a response and he's been active, especially promoting the new Planet of the Apes. Then there's Ken Pejoro who has worked on Alien and Predator projects, and he hasn't tweeted a thing. So either they're being told not to say a word or maybe news outlets have taken the rumor and are running with it. It'd be nice to hear something concrete from someone official.
Dan did post the article on his Instagram story recently. Maybe on Sunday or Monday. However it is common for these stories to break and the creators don't comment until much later.
Asbell has "liked" a few posts on Twitter referring to Badlands:
https://twitter.com/FreddyInSpace/status/1756023929544556978
https://twitter.com/colliderfrosty/status/1756022474033000594
https://twitter.com/kateesackhoff/status/1756105991093895658
Well here we go. Very intrigued by this Badlands project.
Quote from: MudButt on Feb 14, 2024, 05:27:47 AMQuote from: Dr. Von Predator on Feb 14, 2024, 04:17:54 AMQuote from: ace3g on Feb 14, 2024, 12:51:18 AMWaiting for Dan or one of the other Fox execs to RT or post about the movie and then start the Deductive reasoning, Reverse image searching.
Yeah, I do find it odd that 20th Century have yet to make an official announcement. Dan hasn't said a word either (granted he's very busy). Steve Asbell hasn't uttered a response and he's been active, especially promoting the new Planet of the Apes. Then there's Ken Pejoro who has worked on Alien and Predator projects, and he hasn't tweeted a thing. So either they're being told not to say a word or maybe news outlets have taken the rumor and are running with it. It'd be nice to hear something concrete from someone official.
Dan did post the article on his Instagram story recently. Maybe on Sunday or Monday. However it is common for these stories to break and the creators don't comment until much later.
Yeah I meant their first direct post about the movie and then see who comments/likes their post. That is how I identified Amber Midthunder as part of the cast.
the choice of "badlands" as the working title for the future-set movie is very intriguing. it could mean anything or it could mean nothing, but it's intriguing.
today i was just thinking; the fact that it's set in the "future", which could mean anything, it opens the door again to the possibility of previous cast members returning. with Prey 2 also in development its pretty clear that they're thinking about the franchise in those terms. we know the lead will be a new female character, but that doesn't mean the supporting roles couldn't be one or two familiar faces, so long as they were given actual roles in the story and weren't just cameos.
Guess set in the future could mean 2 things:
1. Set in the future of the events of Prey, relatively speaking to 1719.
2. Or actually set in the future?
It means actually set in the future for sure.
Finally a futuristic setting.
I would totally endorse a far future, technologically very advanced, big city setting. With a wasteland around it.
Quote from: BigDaddyJohn on Feb 15, 2024, 10:20:54 AMI would totally endorse a far future, technologically very advanced, big city setting. With a wasteland around it.
That kinda reminds me of Dredd...not that its a bad thing. Judge Dredd has fought the Predator in the comics of course...
John Squires' take is slightly funny as Predator always had a universe of its own. It's just not that known to the mainstream. Or is it that the definition of a "universe" has changed recently in film storytelling?
The Predator franchise has a universe in that there are multiple stories that do share a continuity, but it isn't really a "Universe" in the sense that there's all kinds of crossover between installments. You could pick up any individual movie in the series and watch it totally standalone without having seen any of the others and not really miss anything beyond some Easter Eggs/callbacks.
Prey 2 will likely be the first one to shift that, in that it will be a continuation of Naru's story.
Quote from: BigDaddyJohn on Feb 15, 2024, 10:20:54 AMI would totally endorse a far future, technologically very advanced, big city setting. With a wasteland around it.
Go full cyberpunk.
I'm more interested in the wasteland than I am in the futuristic city, when it comes to Predator. Something grungy and dilapidated that the Predator can blend into and lose itself in even when it isn't cloaked.
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I don't know why, but I feel Predator should be contemporary and past. Future Predator doesn't seem as interesting to me outside of AvP.
Not that it affects my anticipation for this movie in the least, I was just struck by how much hearing "the future" made me feel weird when I heard it.
Yes, it's something strange. As obvious as it may sound, we will have to see the movie to know how such an idea is executed. Anyway, it's interesting to imagine what kind of future it's going to be.
I want all the things; future, past, live-action, animated DTV's, give me everything.
When you think about it, Prey's working title of "Skulls" didn't really have anything to do with the movie. It was more of a ref. to the franchise as a whole. "Badlands" though seems a little more specific, so maybe there could be some sort of wasteland aspect to it. I don't necessarily think they'll go as far as Mad Max but something almost like Judge Dredd might not be completely out of the question. Or they could very well be on another planet with a wasteland-type theme to it.
A cyberpunk setting would be lit if done right.
Quote from: Immortan Jonesy on Feb 16, 2024, 01:56:11 AMA cyberpunk setting would be lit if done right.
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This cover stuck in my head when I think of a cyberpunk setting. Wish I can get a poster from this, its poster worthy.
My thing is for a future setting is that the tech we have can powercreep on Predator tech, so there has to be new Predator tech and skills that can override ours. 2077 has some crazy tech that a Predator can have some trouble going up against but PCJ shows this easily can also be overcome. I just wonder how in a film format can display a full agile Predator doing leaps, acrobatics, and other powerful movements. How Cyberpunk are we going with Cyberpunk here is what I wonder, that is if we are going there.
So, a Predator in a future setting you say....
Spoiler
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I kind of think that even though it's set in the future it might not be in a futuristic city.. maybe more of a futuristic wasteland. The title ''Badlands'' doesn't scream advanced city to me. I don't know how exciting I find a Predator fighting against advanced human weaponry from the future so maybe that's his workaround.
I could be and probably am very wrong though.
https://twitter.com/thevscooper/status/1756019538250850357
And what he reported earlier last year:
https://twitter.com/thevscooper/status/1709618879100567563
Hey 4chan, I hear David is going to be in Badlands.
Neill Blomkamp loved the 'Badlands' sets back in the day.
Quote from: Darkoo on Feb 16, 2024, 11:49:10 AMhttps://twitter.com/thevscooper/status/1756019538250850357
And what he reported earlier last year:
https://twitter.com/thevscooper/status/1709618879100567563
If that's true and it's set in the future, are they supposed to appear in wheelchairs ?
Quote from: BigDaddyJohn on Feb 16, 2024, 04:28:51 PMQuote from: Darkoo on Feb 16, 2024, 11:49:10 AMhttps://twitter.com/thevscooper/status/1756019538250850357
And what he reported earlier last year:
https://twitter.com/thevscooper/status/1709618879100567563
If that's true and it's set in the future, are they supposed to appear in wheelchairs ?
Idk about Harrigan but it's been made clear that Dutch has that Predator DNA augmentation via 2025 so he can still have a go in the fight. It's been said in the audio tapes that the Predator DNA made his cells stop aging, so at least we are talking about an extended lifespan and vitality.
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I know that Drug War it was like what 2022 and Harrigan still managed to track down a rogue Predator in Brazil. But I don't think he can keep up years later, he don't got that Predator augmentation.
Pretty sure every one of those ideas could be (and will be) easily ignored in feature films though.
Trachtenberg didn't even realise the origin of the pistol had been covered in the EU, I wouldn't put much hope in him knowing or caring what the game says.
That's VScooper seems to only scoop up bullshit from what I can tell.
There's no truth to any of that. It's too easy to use that nostalgic stuff to get fans talking.
As much as I love Arnie and Danny, I'll pass on that one.
Quote from: SiL on Feb 16, 2024, 08:32:48 PMTrachtenberg didn't even realise the origin of the pistol had been covered in the EU, I wouldn't put much hope in him knowing or caring what the game says.
I recall in the behind the scenes, it was mentioned that the Predator tree movement was inspired by Predator Hunting Grounds, so there is a slight hope that he might be aware of the story.
It would be crazy if they ignored some of these ideas, some of them are film worthy but studios be thinking backwards.
Quote from: Mr.Turok on Feb 17, 2024, 12:01:16 AMIt would be crazy if they ignored some of these ideas, some of them are film worthy but studios be thinking backwards.
I don't know, the Amengi bullshit can gladly stay in the trash.
Quote from: SiL on Feb 17, 2024, 12:25:08 AMQuote from: Mr.Turok on Feb 17, 2024, 12:01:16 AMIt would be crazy if they ignored some of these ideas, some of them are film worthy but studios be thinking backwards.
I don't know, the Amengi bullshit can gladly stay in the trash.
Agreed. Personally I like my Predators Smarter. The idea of them being used for entertainment and stealing technology does not really paint them in an intelligent light.
Hoping to see an overhaul of the storytelling so it's less predictable.
Quote from: PAS Spinelli on Feb 16, 2024, 04:52:03 AMSo, a Predator in a future setting you say....
Spoiler
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I know the concrete jungle game wasn't well-received by critics due to its controls. But personally, I enjoyed it throughly.
Quote from: SiL on Feb 16, 2024, 08:32:48 PMTrachtenberg didn't even realise the origin of the pistol had been covered in the EU, I wouldn't put much hope in him knowing or caring what the game says.
The films and the EU are separate things as far as Fox is concerned. I mean yes, the comics have influenced the films (i.e. Pred 2 and the AVP films), but by and large, the EU isn't treated as canon in the films (that's why I tend to shy away from going into too much details about the EU). Ideally, certain storyline and characters are picked up in the films but the EU doesn't really determime or dictate how the films will turn out.
Is that a good or bad thing? Well, good in the sense that the creators of the predator films feel they have the freedom to tell the stories they truly want unconstrained by prior storylines in the EU.
Bad I suppose for the AVP films, heck some stories and characters in the AVP EU, even the videogames, have better plot and characters than the AVP films. Yes, the AVP films did touched on elements from the EU, but they were mostly their own thing. But in hindsight, the producers would have been better off just straight up adapt an AVP plot entirely from the EU instead of the trash they made.
Quote from: (Bad Blood) on Feb 17, 2024, 01:23:03 AMand stealing technology
I love them stealing tech, but not as the exclusive source of their technology. South China Sea does it well where the Predator has several tools and weapons prised from the hands/claws/tendrils of prey on other worlds.
The Predator is garbage but I did like the Predator picking up a gun when he had nothing else to use.
Quote from: [cancerblack] on Feb 17, 2024, 11:14:20 PMQuote from: (Bad Blood) on Feb 17, 2024, 01:23:03 AMand stealing technology
I love them stealing tech, but not as the exclusive source of their technology. South China Sea does it well where the Predator has several tools and weapons prised from the hands/claws/tendrils of prey on other worlds.
Always wanted to read this f**king book. Never been able to find it.
Quote from: BigDaddyJohn on Feb 17, 2024, 11:35:20 PMQuote from: [cancerblack] on Feb 17, 2024, 11:14:20 PMQuote from: (Bad Blood) on Feb 17, 2024, 01:23:03 AMand stealing technology
I love them stealing tech, but not as the exclusive source of their technology. South China Sea does it well where the Predator has several tools and weapons prised from the hands/claws/tendrils of prey on other worlds.
Always wanted to read this f**king book. Never been able to find it.
There's a digitised copy available here:
https://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/index.php?topic=66424.msg2600739#msg2600739 (https://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/index.php?topic=66424.msg2600739#msg2600739)
Well thank you very very much sir.
Quote from: SiL on Feb 17, 2024, 12:25:08 AMQuote from: Mr.Turok on Feb 17, 2024, 12:01:16 AMIt would be crazy if they ignored some of these ideas, some of them are film worthy but studios be thinking backwards.
I don't know, the Amengi bullshit can gladly stay in the trash.
I thought it was great! I even liked how they repurposed the old design for new use. That and expand on the Predator universe of other races besides xenomorphs and river ghosts. Made the world feel bigger and fleshed out Predator culture a bit more.
I do agree on how I strongly disliked the take that the Isabelle lore tapes suggested the more idiotic lean on how they never actually learned how the tech works, only how to make it work.
Quote from: PAS Spinelli on Feb 14, 2024, 03:07:19 AMQuote from: aliens13 on Feb 14, 2024, 02:04:44 AMQuote from: PAS Spinelli on Feb 12, 2024, 04:33:34 AMBeing woke is not a talking point at all, being woke is infact good. Alien is for example very woke.
I never thought that Alien it's woke, so I think that Alien doesn't enter in that category
Mmmm, movie with female lead where she is the voice of reason, where a non white side character gets also a ton of spotlight, that has a monster that is an allegory for sexual assault and that is against corporations..... mmmm no wokeness here guys
Alien is very woke, SPECIALLY for the time it was made in. And once again, being woke isn't bad, being woke is good, thinking being woke is bad is a huge red flag for me.
non white side character?
Parker probably ?
Of course Parker.
Quote from: bobcunk on Feb 18, 2024, 10:11:06 AMQuote from: PAS Spinelli on Feb 14, 2024, 03:07:19 AMQuote from: aliens13 on Feb 14, 2024, 02:04:44 AMQuote from: PAS Spinelli on Feb 12, 2024, 04:33:34 AMBeing woke is not a talking point at all, being woke is infact good. Alien is for example very woke.
I never thought that Alien it's woke, so I think that Alien doesn't enter in that category
Mmmm, movie with female lead where she is the voice of reason, where a non white side character gets also a ton of spotlight, that has a monster that is an allegory for sexual assault and that is against corporations..... mmmm no wokeness here guys
Alien is very woke, SPECIALLY for the time it was made in. And once again, being woke isn't bad, being woke is good, thinking being woke is bad is a huge red flag for me.
non white side character?
C'mon, there's only 7 characters in Alien, can't be that hard to figure out who I'm talking about
Umm, the 8th passenger?
(https://i.imgur.com/98sSsoU.jpg)
Whelp, I'm just saying that it was such a baller move that Illfonic has done to the Predator lore and it's a shame if it ends up ignored a second time. Sucks that the developers don't bother with it no more and I have no idea if any writers either for film or expanded media will follow up on any of the lore that PHG set up. Just plain nice to see Dutch again after 87 and seeing Predator encounters having actual cause and effects to their hunts on people.
Either way, can't wait to see what's in store for the next two films.
I'm hoping Badlands is a sequel to Predators personally. The hunting planet idea has a lot of untapped potential still and I'd much prefer it over a Mad Max dystopia on Earth.
I like the idea of a futuristic city. Something similar to that of Concrete Jungle with some style inspiration from The Fifth Element. Though this might be better explored for a videogame. Plus, the working title 'Badlands' doesn't give off the impression of that sort of futuristic setting.
Of course, they could simply mean something more present-day and go with a No Country for Old Men feel.
I hope it is a Dredd 2012 style take on the future. Just further along that Predator 2 type vision.
Quote from: BlueMarsalis79 on Feb 19, 2024, 10:01:46 PMI hope it is a Dredd 2012 style take on the future. Just further along that Predator 2 type vision.
Did you say 'Urban Dredd vs Predator' film??? Yes please ;D ;D ;D ;D
Does everyone think "Badlands" will go back to the Predator title? With Prey 2 also in development and coming after "Badlands", I'm thinking they probably will.
Could be, that they use the Predator name and a subtitle (maybe Badlands, maybe something else). Could be that they use a non-Predator name alone again, as with Prey.
It's a 50/50 shot on whether Badlands even sticks as (part of) a title, I guess. We have precedence for either direction, with "Skulls" giving way to Prey, but Alien: Romulus sticking through to release.
working titles vs actual titles is always an interesting conversation. i remember all those fan-made posters that said "Predator: Skulls". in the end "Skulls" had nothing to do with the movie outside the reference to the franchise in general. "Badlands" definitely feels much more specific and could totally be a Romulus situation.
Badlands is the code name like SKULLS was for PREY. Won't be surprised if we have a change closer to release.
Quote from: Mike's Monsters on Feb 20, 2024, 05:29:59 PMBadlands is the code name like SKULLS was for PREY. Won't be surprised if we have a change closer to release.
Wasn't that also initially the case with
Romulus, before it was eventually settled on as the release title? Or was that set in stone from day one?
Not sure if it's been set since day 1 for Romulus, but it feels like it was having seen it all now. I know we thought it was going to be something else or that it was a placeholder name. What I do know is that there may have been a temp name for Romulus that hadn't been shared yet, but I can't talk on that until it's revealed that it is or is not officially involved.
Quote from: Mike's Monsters on Feb 20, 2024, 06:04:12 PMWhat I do know is that there may have been a temp name for Romulus that hadn't been shared yet, but I can't talk on that until it's revealed that it is or is not officially involved.
It was
Big Chap Strikes Back, of course!
ALIEN: ROMULUS
Ripley's Bad Dream
This is a joke, don't take this as truth. A few of you message me off the boards wanting all the answers and run with every word I share.
Quote from: Mike's Monsters on Feb 20, 2024, 06:20:25 PMA few of you message me off the boards wanting all the answers and run with every word I share.
It's probably just Local though.
The active members here have actually been the most quiet! All the jokes in the boards about messaging me is actually really funny and no one pops in my DMs.
But on Facebook, IG and Twitter I get a DM every few days saying "I know you can't confirm anything, but can you answer my questions to confirm some things." And no matter how much I respond with "I can't say anything" or just ignore, they keep coming back!
I set myself up for this, and I fully accept the consequences.
And it's not that I don't want to talk about all the nitty gritty, I just can't yet! I want to spill every bean in my pot of knowledge!!!
Quote from: Mike's Monsters on Feb 20, 2024, 06:56:27 PMI want to spill every bean in my pot of knowledge!!!
Do it, you coward!!!
I was in the know about few things during the development of and for (at the time) ongoing releases with, the AvP boardgame stuff last decade. Small potatoes compared to a film but I know exactly how hard you get DM'd by curious minds lol.
Quote from: PortugueseXeno on Feb 20, 2024, 07:09:38 PMQuote from: Mike's Monsters on Feb 20, 2024, 06:56:27 PMI want to spill every bean in my pot of knowledge!!!
Do it, you coward!!!
If I do, the company may decide to never let me see the light of day again... and if that happens, who will help tease unreleased Badlands info that I have as it gets closer to the release date?
Quote from: [cancerblack] on Feb 20, 2024, 07:16:33 PMI was in the know about few things during the development of and for (at the time) ongoing releases with, the AvP boardgame stuff last decade. Small potatoes compared to a film but I know exactly how hard you get DM'd by curious minds lol.
I expected some messages, but not the volume and frequency they started coming through in the last week or two. I think potential talks of a Super Bowl trailer got more people curious about the project.
Similar experience. A few here and there, then when something new is announced or obviously on the horizon, your inbox gets blow'd up daily.
I had some involvement in playtesting, but that also gave a pretty clear look at what models or expansions were coming soon, announced or not, (they needed working rules minimum 6+ months in advance for printing times etc) and actually surprisingly often having at least a "like it/don't like it" level of input on some of the WIP designs (not that that stopped me offering a lot more opinions on a few of them!). But a big fish in a small pond still gets a surprising amount of attention when there's a mystery.
Quote from: Mike's Monsters on Feb 20, 2024, 07:16:55 PMthe company may decide to never let me see the light of day again...
Which one is scarier?
A billionaire company such as Disney or one annoying portuguese man with an empty basement?
Quote from: Mike's Monsters on Feb 20, 2024, 06:56:27 PMThe active members here have actually been the most quiet! All the jokes in the boards about messaging me is actually really funny and no one pops in my DMs.
But on Facebook, IG and Twitter I get a DM every few days saying "I know you can't confirm anything, but can you answer my questions to confirm some things." And no matter how much I respond with "I can't say anything" or just ignore, they keep coming back!
I set myself up for this, and I fully accept the consequences.
And it's not that I don't want to talk about all the nitty gritty, I just can't yet! I want to spill every bean in my pot of knowledge!!!
That sounds exhausting! :laugh:
I wouldn't be surprised if, like Skulls, they completely forgo that title for something else entirely. Or maybe slightly related, like having a Bad Blood as a central antagonist or something of that nature.
Quote from: PortugueseXeno on Feb 20, 2024, 07:41:15 PMQuote from: Mike's Monsters on Feb 20, 2024, 07:16:55 PMthe company may decide to never let me see the light of day again...
Which one is scarier?
A billionaire company such as Disney or one annoying portuguese man with an empty basement?
Well... I live up the street from The Mouse... so...
Quote from: [cancerblack] on Feb 20, 2024, 07:19:46 PMSimilar experience. A few here and there, then when something new is announced or obviously on the horizon, your inbox gets blow'd up daily.
I had some involvement in playtesting, but that also gave a pretty clear look at what models or expansions were coming soon, announced or not, (they needed working rules minimum 6+ months in advance for printing times etc) and actually surprisingly often having at least a "like it/don't like it" level of input on some of the WIP designs (not that that stopped me offering a lot more opinions on a few of them!). But a big fish in a small pond still gets a surprising amount of attention when there's a mystery.
I don't have any creative input on Romulus, even though some who've hit me up think I do. But you hit the nail on the head with that last sentence! Plus, why would I share it with one individual who's never spoken to me before popping into my DMs, when I haven't been sharing it anywhere else? Don't get the logic of some folks, but I do understand the excitement!
Badlands will definitely get a more Predator-related title for its actual release, even if that just ends up being "Predator: Badlands" or "Prey: Badlands". They need something to tie it in and let people know what franchise it's a part of, after all.
Quote from: Mike's Monsters on Feb 20, 2024, 07:53:56 PMI don't have any creative input on Romulus
I question how much impact I specifically had on that much myself, think late stage focus group more than consultant. Although I'm fairly confident I'm one of the main reasons what I dubbed the "chibi dropship" was scrapped entirely for the film accurate one that eventually came out, I was not polite about the first design and wouldn't drop it lmao :laugh: .
QuoteBut you hit the nail on the head with that last sentence!
It's a jungle out there.
I like to think I had 100% creative input with Badlands. Is it a coincidence that just a couple of weeks ago during Hick's AVP stream I was telling him how good a "Predator vs cowboys in the Old West" movie would be, and barely a few days later we hear about a new Predator movie codenamed "Badlands?" I think not.
Clearly Dan was in that chat too and was like "that's an amazing idea! Get Dane on the phone immediately! This movie needs to happen RIGHT NOW!!"
I'm sure my cheque will be arriving in the mail any day now.
There's cowboys in the future?
Quote from: Kailem on Feb 20, 2024, 08:43:15 PMI like to think I had 100% creative input with Badlands. Is it a coincidence that just a couple of weeks ago during Hick's AVP stream I was telling him how good a "Predator vs cowboys in the Old West" movie would be, and barely a few days later we hear about a new Predator movie codenamed "Badlands?" I think not.
Clearly Dan was in that chat too and was like "that's an amazing idea! Get Dane on the phone immediately! This movie needs to happen RIGHT NOW!!"
I'm sure my cheque will be arriving in the mail any day now
I'll also be throwing in my avatar as inspiration while we're at it :laugh: :laugh:
Quote from: [cancerblack] on Feb 20, 2024, 08:46:42 PMThere's cowboys in the future?
Absolutely.
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Could be a la Gunmen Chronicles.
Quote from: Kailem on Feb 20, 2024, 08:43:15 PMI like to think I had 100% creative input with Badlands.
We know for a fact that they listen to you and our gaming streams after they added Godzilla & Kong to COD when we had been saying it needed it for months! These big companies really need to put us on the payroll.
This is true! For ages we were like "what's the point of these big maps if they're not going to add giant monsters?", and then they did! They really do just need to make it official at this point.
How about the Predator against cyborg samurai geishas from a futuristic Japan. Maybe there is pollution, hence the title 'Badlands'.
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Quote from: Immortan Jonesy on Feb 20, 2024, 10:43:15 PMHow about the Predator against cyborg samurai geishas from a futuristic Japan. Maybe there is pollution, hence the title 'Badlands'.
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That sounds cool but I'd rather they do a mad max or dredd type setting tbh. I want the eventual predator v samurai movie to be as classic and basic as possible, similar to The Last Samurai, Seven Samurai or the upcoming Shogun. With the history/luck this franchise has, I doubt we'd ever have a rapid enough release schedule to get a Futuristic Japan movie AND feudal Japan movie anytime soon. It would be one or the other.
If there is one thing I would want to see in film, is a intro scene of some type with the Predator hunting another alien lifeform in a different planet. Just to see it in action other than hunting humans. The bear fight made me realize that seeing the Predator hunt other non humans besides xenos is a strong need for the series.
Quote from: Mr.Turok on Feb 22, 2024, 12:37:23 AMIf there is one thing I would want to see in film, is a intro scene of some type with the Predator hunting another alien lifeform in a different planet. Just to see it in action other than hunting humans. The bear fight made me realize that seeing the Predator hunt other non humans besides xenos is a strong need for the series.
Still fries my mind a bit thinking that
Predators straight up had another random alien in the film, and yet didn't cash in on that idea.
Quote from: Nightmare Asylum on Feb 22, 2024, 12:41:55 AMQuote from: Mr.Turok on Feb 22, 2024, 12:37:23 AMIf there is one thing I would want to see in film, is a intro scene of some type with the Predator hunting another alien lifeform in a different planet. Just to see it in action other than hunting humans. The bear fight made me realize that seeing the Predator hunt other non humans besides xenos is a strong need for the series.
Still fries my mind a bit thinking that Predators straight up had another random alien in the film, and yet didn't cash in on that idea.
Predators was full of ideas that weren't fully cashed in. A collection of good ideas just weakly tied in one another and never explored again.
Quote from: Mr.Turok on Feb 22, 2024, 01:55:38 AMQuote from: Nightmare Asylum on Feb 22, 2024, 12:41:55 AMQuote from: Mr.Turok on Feb 22, 2024, 12:37:23 AMIf there is one thing I would want to see in film, is a intro scene of some type with the Predator hunting another alien lifeform in a different planet. Just to see it in action other than hunting humans. The bear fight made me realize that seeing the Predator hunt other non humans besides xenos is a strong need for the series.
Still fries my mind a bit thinking that Predators straight up had another random alien in the film, and yet didn't cash in on that idea.
Predators was full of ideas that weren't fully cashed in. A collection of good ideas just weakly tied in one another and never explored again.
Yep. I really like the bones of what the movie seems to want to be, and the first half has a fair amount going for it in what it's setting up (though it really doesn't have that OOMPH that you'd expect something with this concept to have propelling it), but in the second half it kind of just unravels and deflates and what it did have going for it kind of just peters out.
Can't bring myself to hate it, there's good stuff in there but overall there's not enough to it to really elicit any kind of real emotion out of me, but it does bum me out to think about how it never really amounts to the sum of its parts, because the parts that it does have going for it, in theory, could have been a cool direction for this franchise could have taken.
Ah well. At least we have
Prey now!
Quote from: Nightmare Asylum on Feb 22, 2024, 02:09:47 AMQuote from: Mr.Turok on Feb 22, 2024, 01:55:38 AMQuote from: Nightmare Asylum on Feb 22, 2024, 12:41:55 AMQuote from: Mr.Turok on Feb 22, 2024, 12:37:23 AMIf there is one thing I would want to see in film, is a intro scene of some type with the Predator hunting another alien lifeform in a different planet. Just to see it in action other than hunting humans. The bear fight made me realize that seeing the Predator hunt other non humans besides xenos is a strong need for the series.
Still fries my mind a bit thinking that Predators straight up had another random alien in the film, and yet didn't cash in on that idea.
Predators was full of ideas that weren't fully cashed in. A collection of good ideas just weakly tied in one another and never explored again.
Yep. I really like the bones of what the movie seems to want to be, and the first half has a fair amount going for it in what it's setting up (though it really doesn't have that OOMPH that you'd expect something with this concept to have propelling it), but in the second half it kind of just unravels and deflates and what it did have going for it kind of just peters out.
Can't bring myself to hate it, there's good stuff in there but overall there's not enough to it to really elicit any kind of real emotion out of me, but it does bum me out to think about how it never really amounts to the sum of its parts, because the parts that it does have going for it, in theory, could have been a cool direction for this franchise could have taken.
Ah well. At least we have Prey now!
It is the mid of all Predator films. I don't hate it because it's bad as the production, acting, atmosphere, and soundtrack is great. I hate it as I keep on thinking of what it could have been. It's not like
The Predator where everything about it was just trash with it's story and writing, thus easily ignored.
Quote from: [cancerblack] on Feb 20, 2024, 08:21:26 PMQuote from: Mike's Monsters on Feb 20, 2024, 07:53:56 PMI don't have any creative input on Romulus
I question how much impact I specifically had on that much myself, think late stage focus group more than consultant. Although I'm fairly confident I'm one of the main reasons what I dubbed the "chibi dropship" was scrapped entirely for the film accurate one that eventually came out, I was not polite about the first design and wouldn't drop it lmao :laugh: .
QuoteBut you hit the nail on the head with that last sentence!
It's a jungle out there.
You deserve a medal.
Quote from: Kailem on Feb 20, 2024, 08:43:15 PMI like to think I had 100% creative input with Badlands. Is it a coincidence that just a couple of weeks ago during Hick's AVP stream I was telling him how good a "Predator vs cowboys in the Old West" movie would be, and barely a few days later we hear about a new Predator movie codenamed "Badlands?" I think not.
Clearly Dan was in that chat too and was like "that's an amazing idea! Get Dane on the phone immediately! This movie needs to happen RIGHT NOW!!"
I'm sure my cheque will be arriving in the mail any day now.
I wrote a silly fan script a few years before Superman Returns when I was in college. It was posted on a script website. Bro. I REALLY feel like I got to see some of that on film lol. Not impossible to be coincidental, but we were not just in the ball park, but in the infield.
Great news! I know about it since it was revealed here, dont know why I share my comment only now.
Quote from: PAS Spinelli on Feb 18, 2024, 05:43:51 PMQuote from: bobcunk on Feb 18, 2024, 10:11:06 AMQuote from: PAS Spinelli on Feb 14, 2024, 03:07:19 AMQuote from: aliens13 on Feb 14, 2024, 02:04:44 AMQuote from: PAS Spinelli on Feb 12, 2024, 04:33:34 AMBeing woke is not a talking point at all, being woke is infact good. Alien is for example very woke.
I never thought that Alien it's woke, so I think that Alien doesn't enter in that category
Mmmm, movie with female lead where she is the voice of reason, where a non white side character gets also a ton of spotlight, that has a monster that is an allegory for sexual assault and that is against corporations..... mmmm no wokeness here guys
Alien is very woke, SPECIALLY for the time it was made in. And once again, being woke isn't bad, being woke is good, thinking being woke is bad is a huge red flag for me.
non white side character?
C'mon, there's only 7 characters in Alien, can't be that hard to figure out who I'm talking about
Jonsey the cat? Just kidding I was thinking of Aliens sorry. The Alien was also played by a black guy. Also the onscreen biography for the Nostromo crew says Lambert is a trans male.
I meant trans female I think. She was born male and had sex change. I don't know if its cosmetic or if they can actually change your biological sex in the future.
The Director of the new Dune movie could make aliens vs predator so goood
I very much doubt that Denis Villeneuve would have any interest in doing an AVP movie.
It's a job for Liam O'Donnell tbh. he'd do something fun with a proper budget
Neither please.
Honestly, I wouldn't be totally shocked if an AVP is in Trachtenberg's future, at the rate things are going.
Why is one director getting all the work ? Seems like a waste of time and talent
Quote from: Enjoy on Feb 25, 2024, 06:14:24 PMWhy is one director getting all the work ? Seems like a waste of time and talent
Not so much a waste of his time if he's enjoying doing it.
I only really speculate this because, despite AVP as a concept usually drawing most heavily from
Aliens' iconography and worldbuilding, it is also a crossover that seems to tend to resonate a bit more on the Predator side of things more so than the Alien one, and with Trachtenberg now A.) basically spearheading the Predator brand and B.) taking Predator into the future with
Badlands...
Dan was directing Prey with a WY cap
if any Predator director gets to direct a AVP too... it's him.
Quote from: skhellter on Feb 25, 2024, 08:54:33 PMDan was directing Prey with a WY cap
if any Predator director gets to direct a AVP too... it's him.
I prefer to choose someone who made a good pred movie, like McTiernan or Hopkins.
Exactly the reason Trachtenberg would fit the bill!
I'd prefer someone who knows the difference between a Predator and a generic movie monster.
But maybe Badlands will show that.
A waste of time not using more directors then the director if prey ? Seems like predator would be better off with more then one person deciding everything for the future of predator ? I would love to see other directors work on predator films and a streaming series with multiple directors doing short stories is my preference anyway.
As much as I liked Prey, I agree, Feral can often times easily be replaced by another monster or Jason like killer.
Feral has a different approach from previous Predators for sure (he's much more combative in an in your face way than the Preds in Predator and Predator 2, which liked to hang back more until they were really in the thick of it), but feels like a Predator through and through to me, just a different individual going about his hunt in his own way. Dude's a dick, he's cocky and sure of himself, he likes getting his hands dirty, and like previous Predators, when he underestimates his prey one time too many, it costs him his life.
Feral might enjoy taking damage
Quote from: Nightmare Asylum on Feb 26, 2024, 03:28:46 PMFeral has a different approach from previous Predators for sure (he's much more combative in an in your face way than the Preds in Predator and Predator 2, which liked to hang back more until they were really in the thick of it), but feels like a Predator through and through to me, just a different individual going about his hunt in his own way. Dude's a dick, he's cocky and sure of himself, he likes getting his hands dirty, and like previous Predators, when he underestimates his prey one time too many, it costs him his life.
Much agreed, but bombs the forest when he gets bored, that seems so Predator to me.
Feral would crack open a nice cold can of soda, plant those bombs, and run off into the woods to stab a bear or something. Good for him, living his best life for his last few days.
Prey is good and unique. I like that the face design is like early prototype stan came up with. The only real flaw in prey that stood out was the lack of blood in the water down stream from the bear.
Looking forward to Trachtenberg's new future design of the Predator. Hope the face design is dialed back a bit.
Quote from: Nightmare Asylum on Feb 26, 2024, 03:28:46 PMFeral has a different approach from previous Predators for sure (he's much more combative in an in your face way than the Preds in Predator and Predator 2, which liked to hang back more until they were really in the thick of it), but feels like a Predator through and through to me, just a different individual going about his hunt in his own way. Dude's a dick, he's cocky and sure of himself, he likes getting his hands dirty, and like previous Predators, when he underestimates his prey one time too many, it costs him his life.
The biggest thing lacking for me is Feral's sense of his own mortality. It's one of those things that separates Predators from other movie monsters - they clearly fear for their lives.
Normally when characters catch a monster in a trap, or wound it, it gives the
humans enough time to run away. In a Predator movie, it's the opposite - the
Predator runs away.
Feral just keeps going, like Jason or the Terminator or any number of damage sink movie villains.
And that's all without going into the face.
Any one of the big changes in isolation would be fine, but all together what makes the Predator more than just a high tech Jason is gone.
Yeah. Feral only ran when Taabe was beating him one-on-one. Dang coward avoided a good death.
John cena as the son of dutch seems plausible now.
Quote from: SiL on Feb 26, 2024, 08:59:53 PMQuote from: Nightmare Asylum on Feb 26, 2024, 03:28:46 PMFeral has a different approach from previous Predators for sure (he's much more combative in an in your face way than the Preds in Predator and Predator 2, which liked to hang back more until they were really in the thick of it), but feels like a Predator through and through to me, just a different individual going about his hunt in his own way. Dude's a dick, he's cocky and sure of himself, he likes getting his hands dirty, and like previous Predators, when he underestimates his prey one time too many, it costs him his life.
The biggest thing lacking for me is Feral's sense of his own mortality. It's one of those things that separates Predators from other movie monsters - they clearly fear for their lives.
Normally when characters catch a monster in a trap, or wound it, it gives the humans enough time to run away. In a Predator movie, it's the opposite - the Predator runs away.
Feral just keeps going, like Jason or the Terminator or any number of damage sink movie villains.
And that's all without going into the face.
Any one of the big changes in isolation would be fine, but all together what makes the Predator more than just a high tech Jason is gone.
Well, i don't know if that is really fair.
We did see Feral temporarily run away from Taabe after he got humilliated by him in a fair one-on-one.
We also saw Feral take a break (after killing the French) and heal his wounds.
Yes, he was a little more reckless than most Predators, but i think it was because this was his first hunt.
The Predators are not a Hive like Xeno, so i still think that it is important for each Predator to have some unique personality trait.
The Feral Predator was a Yautja that liked to get his hands dirty and to engage in physical close combat, getting more confident and cockier as he climbed the ladder of the food chain.
Sure, but his body language is also more monstrous than most Predators. He has a tendency to just walk up to enemies rather than attack from a vantage point. And then there's his face.
No single change is an issue, and no single change is inexplicable.
But combined, the final result is something that feels more like a high tech Jason than a Predator. That might be a perfectly valid thing for a Predator to be, but to me, it's not what I'm here for.
Is the same to me as the AvPR Aliens compared to the originals. Sure they run on walls and ambush and what have you, but watch that movie side by side with the originals and tell me you don't see a remarkable difference.
I guess in the first third/half of the movie, he does predator-like things, as observing environment, attacking the bully guy from a vantage point (just one time though). But overall that feels light compared to his gladiator-like behavior after that.
It wasn't enough for me, although I found him quite entertaining to watch.
Quote from: BigDaddyJohn on Feb 27, 2024, 12:43:45 PMalthough I found him quite entertaining to watch.
Yeah, him tearing through the trappers is fun for sure.
Loved the movie, loved Feral, and hate the face.
Hate may be a bit strong. But I don't like it and it hasn't really grown on me. Hoping that Dan goes in a different direction with the face for the sequels.
If nothing else, the seemingly-inevitable return of Greyback in the Prey followup will likely see a return to a more classic face design, given that he already has an established look.
I do like Feral's face, though. Wouldn't want every Predator to look like him, but, as an individual, I think it works for this particular guy.
Bring in Shaman with the skull mask and connect him to Feral
Quote from: 426Buddy on Feb 27, 2024, 01:00:52 PMLoved the movie, loved Feral, and hate the face.
Hate may be a bit strong. But I don't like it and it hasn't really grown on me. Hoping that Dan goes in a different direction with the face for the sequels.
Based
I hope there's more buildup for other characters in the Prey sequel. Bring some unique personalities to Nauru's fellow hunters/warriors in her tribe that she's probably leading now. Flesh out the conflicts going on between the Comanche and a settler group. Feature some interesting conversations around shamanism or religious talk from the settlers.
You have people from hundreds of years ago going up against an invisible foe, it's only natural that we'd hear more demon talk.
I agree, I would have expected a bit more of that in Prey. Possibly there was more and it was cut maybe ?
Anyways I'm looking forward to that in the sequel.
I wonder if the future badlands are toxic and scorced earth
"Badlands" is a very suggestive title isn't it
July shooting time, release date in 2025?
i was definitely thinking August 2025 for the release date, 100%.
does anyone think they'd go for it and aim for a 2026 release for Prey 2?
If Trachtenberg is directing Prey 2, I can't imagine him being able to shoot both movies in quick enough succession to get them out one after another like that.
Maybe he can pull a James Cameron and shoot both at the same time.
I don't know if a back-to-back shoot would really work for Badlands and Prey 2, with both having entirely different settings, casts, etc.
But who knows how things are going to play out. At the point we don't even know if Trachtenberg plans to personally direct Prey 2!
they did make it a point to say no one was attached to Prey 2 but it was in active development. and we know the details of Prey 2 have been discussed between Dan, Amber and the studio so there's gotta be at least an outline.
I do hope we get another director that has the passion to follow another Predator film. Not that Dan is bad, only that he just can't be the only one interested in making Predator films.
Samurai Predator movie from Gareth Evans.
Quote from: RoguePred1987 on Mar 05, 2024, 07:17:48 PMi was definitely thinking August 2025 for the release date, 100%.
does anyone think they'd go for it and aim for a 2026 release for Prey 2?
I think it depends if Badlands and Prey 2 will be theatrical releases. If so, I dont think Prey 2 will release in 2026.
Personally, I hope Badlands will be released in theaters.
Quote from: David on Mar 08, 2024, 02:44:48 PMQuote from: RoguePred1987 on Mar 05, 2024, 07:17:48 PMi was definitely thinking August 2025 for the release date, 100%.
does anyone think they'd go for it and aim for a 2026 release for Prey 2?
I think it depends if Badlands and Prey 2 will be theatrical releases. If so, I dont think Prey 2 will release in 2026.
Personally, I hope Badlands will be released in theaters.
After
Prey's surprising success and
Romulus getting promoted to a theatrical release, I honestly can't imagine a world where any Alien/Predator movie goes releases as a streaming original again (unless they actually cave and release the
Alien vs Predator: Annihilation anime films, that is).
Maybe if Romulus fails hard in theaters they could go back to the streaming only formula ?
I never saw Evil dead, only trailer and one or two clips. But it looked great. Saw Dont breath which had a good atmosphere. Those are Fede Alvarez s films. Even Ridley Scott said about Alien Romulus that it was great (if i remember it well) I dont think Alien Romulus will bomb at box office.
Quote from: Nightmare Asylum on Mar 08, 2024, 03:00:21 PM(unless they actually cave and release the Alien vs Predator: Annihilation anime films, that is).
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I really frigging hope that stays locked up in the vaults. The brand doesn't need more damaging.
I have no issues with them going back to the original concept of adapting the comics and releasing them via streaming release either. It's a nice platform for them to actually experiment and play a little.
Quote from: Corporal Hicks on Mar 11, 2024, 09:09:27 AMQuote from: Nightmare Asylum on Mar 08, 2024, 03:00:21 PM(unless they actually cave and release the Alien vs Predator: Annihilation anime films, that is).
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I really frigging hope that stays locked up in the vaults. The brand doesn't need more damaging.
I have no issues with them going back to the original concept of adapting the comics and releasing them via streaming release either. It's a nice platform for them to actually experiment and play a little.
Kind of wished you and the crew had chance to take a peep at vid samples and finally hint to us the final say if it really is not so good. Me on the copium hoping that we are wrong and it's good all along only because I am that starved of AVP content that isn't just novels.
It's definitely f**ked but I still wanna see it.
Quote from: Mr.Turok on Mar 12, 2024, 01:39:16 AMQuote from: Corporal Hicks on Mar 11, 2024, 09:09:27 AMQuote from: Nightmare Asylum on Mar 08, 2024, 03:00:21 PM(unless they actually cave and release the Alien vs Predator: Annihilation anime films, that is).
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I really frigging hope that stays locked up in the vaults. The brand doesn't need more damaging.
I have no issues with them going back to the original concept of adapting the comics and releasing them via streaming release either. It's a nice platform for them to actually experiment and play a little.
Kind of wished you and the crew had chance to take a peep at vid samples and finally hint to us the final say if it really is not so good. Me on the copium hoping that we are wrong and it's good all along only because I am that starved of AVP content that isn't just novels.
And I can't even make it past the first 30 pages of so of the new AvP novel...
I don't want it to come out. I don't care if it's already done or not. AvP is a tainted brand and it doesn't need tainting further. There's still good to come from the concept and I don't want to risk any further aversion to it on Disney's side by them releasing this anime and everyone hating it.
It seems like 20th Century & Steve Asbell are taking both franchises very seriously these days. I have to imagine at some point they'll try and cross these two over again and actually give a shit about it. I think it's a crossover that makes sense so long as they just let the movie be its own thing. It doesn't need to fit in with the recent movies, just set it on a far away planet in a far away year and let our favorite monsters cook.
I would love an actual adaptation of the avp games, especially AVP2. That would fit that criteria.
Quote from: BigDaddyJohn on Mar 12, 2024, 11:33:55 PMI would love an actual adaptation of the avp games, especially AVP2. That would fit that criteria.
We need an new AvP game for sure, maybe developed by Rebellion. It's has been 14 years since the last one
Quote from: BigDaddyJohn on Mar 12, 2024, 11:33:55 PMespecially AVP2.
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And I'll get ahead of the "it's just Jurassic Park" crowd right now by saying, kinda. But it doesn't have to be, the villains actually have legs as characters and it could skew towards
Labyrinth really easily.
i'd love to see them embrace the idea of direct-to-video animated projects for all three franchises.
Quote from: MudButt on Mar 12, 2024, 10:09:29 PMIt seems like 20th Century & Steve Asbell are taking both franchises very seriously these days. I have to imagine at some point they'll try and cross these two over again and actually give a shit about it. I think it's a crossover that makes sense so long as they just let the movie be its own thing. It doesn't need to fit in with the recent movies, just set it on a far away planet in a far away year and let our favorite monsters cook.
I say if Romulus is a hit we can expect an announcement of a new AvP soon after. They need both franchises to be hitting otherwise a third attempt at this would be flop city. So we're 1/2 way there!
New AvP movie or game would be sweet.
They should remaster Concrete Jungle for its 20 year anniversary.
If that fixes the camera I'm all for it. That game was fun.
i've been thinking a lot lately about how interesting it would be if they remade Concrete Jungle. Address the issues and upgrade and expand on things. that would be great.
A solid single-player Predator game in general would be amazing.
I just keep wondering if that game's "Surprise, here's some Aliens!" moment is something a Predator movie (be it Badlands or some other future entry) is going to try to pull off in the future. :laugh:
Quote from: Master Chief on Mar 15, 2024, 03:28:12 PMThey should remaster Concrete Jungle for its 20 year anniversary.
A proper
remake of Concrete Jungle AND another Predator centered game please! :)
Give it the Resident Evil 2 treatment where everything is updated to a strong standard and then either a sequel or a standalone Predator game after. As for a new game, normally I would say Rocksteady can take the helm, but after what I seen with Suicide Squad, I don't know who else is trustworthy to take a hand on a Predator game. Rather not see Illfonic touch another Predator game after that lack of support and abandonment to Hunting Grounds.
Quote from: Nightmare Asylum on Mar 15, 2024, 06:54:12 PMI just keep wondering if that game's "Surprise, here's some Aliens!" moment is something a Predator movie (be it Badlands or some other future entry) is going to try to pull off in the future. :laugh:
Wouldn't be against it honestly! Could be cool if handled right.
If it was done really well then it could be great. Concrete Jungle felt like a better version of what the AVP movies were trying to do, although there was still that feeling of "wait, really?".
I think we can all agree a large scale Predator game that featured full customization and that allows you to go to various planets and fight a growing list of creatures would be cool as hell. And a really great story, and......ramble ramble. We all know what we want.
I want some news!
Quote from: David on Mar 22, 2024, 05:49:48 PMI want some news!
To be honest, the only news I want is when it's filming, when it's done filming, and when the release date is. Everything else, I want to remain a mystery. I want to go into the new stuff as oblivious as possible and be surprised.
Quote from: Dr. Von Predator on Mar 23, 2024, 12:00:02 AMQuote from: David on Mar 22, 2024, 05:49:48 PMI want some news!
To be honest, the only news I want is when it's filming, when it's done filming, and when the release date is. Everything else, I want to remain a mystery. I want to go into the new stuff as oblivious as possible and be surprised.
That sounds reasonable. At least a story would help.
if its really going to start filming in July, or even June, we should be hearing some casting bits pretty soon.
Quote from: David on Mar 22, 2024, 05:49:48 PMI want some news!
There's two Predator movies coming and they'll probably both be okay to pretty good. But we'll tell you first when anything more happens.
The word Badlands remind me alien planet in Predators.
Feels more like a desert/junkyard Mad Max-esque wasteland than it does the forests of the Hunting Preserve, to me.
Let's be surprised. If only it were here.
Quote from: RoguePred1987 on Mar 24, 2024, 04:54:21 AMif its really going to start filming in July, or even June, we should be hearing some casting bits pretty soon.
Would we expect some famous names?
I'd expect Dane DiLiegro.
Whoever is cast, I'm sure it'll surprise us and will be really interesting
Semi-random thought: if Dan T. is really going to be in a supervisor role post-'Badlands' it will be interesting to see who they bring on to direct. Since "The Woman King", I'm always going to ride for Gina Prince-Bythewood directing a Predator movie, Prey 2 might be the perfect opportunity.
David Twohy would be great for one that really leans into the pulp, though now it seems that there's a chance that Badlands could end up being just what I always imagined a Twohy Predator movie might look like...
I wonder who would do the soundtrack. I love how unique Prey had its own distinct soundtrack and that can't be lost to generic orchestra.
Sarah Schachner did such a terrific job with Prey, even bringing back the Predator theme in a really creative and subtle way, I'd love for her to come back.
Quote from: RoguePred1987 on Mar 26, 2024, 02:12:58 AMSarah Schachner did such a terrific job with Prey, even bringing back the Predator theme in a really creative and subtle way, I'd love for her to come back.
Absolutely and I too would like her to come back and do the next one. It was just so well done.
Quote from: RoguePred1987 on Mar 26, 2024, 02:12:58 AMSarah Schachner did such a terrific job with Prey, even bringing back the Predator theme in a really creative and subtle way, I'd love for her to come back.
I loved Prey's score. I really did not pick up on the theme until it was pointed out to me. She weaved that in so subtly.
Quote from: Corporal Hicks on Mar 26, 2024, 09:29:58 AMQuote from: RoguePred1987 on Mar 26, 2024, 02:12:58 AMSarah Schachner did such a terrific job with Prey, even bringing back the Predator theme in a really creative and subtle way, I'd love for her to come back.
I loved Prey's score. I really did not pick up on the theme until it was pointed out to me. She weaved that in so subtly.
I noticed it's like the Predator itself, you can't hear/see it until someone points out the note/shimmer.
very nice 8)
I thought Nia DaCosta would be an interesting choice to direct a predator movie based purely on this scene.
Thought it as I was watching it the first time in theaters lol
Another really solid choice. If Dan T. isn't directing Prey 2, which he very well may not, the doors are wide open for a new interesting choice.
Thinking more about Predators and the way it promised so much potential with its hunting preserve planet concept that it ultimately squandered, I really do hope that, if Badlands is set on another planet, we actually get to see a Predator taking advantage of that and hunting some indigenous alien fauna. Predators did basically nothing with the River Ghost creature - I know technically a (very much off-screen) Predator lands the kill on it, but even never see anything resembling an encounter between the two, or even a Predator swinging by to collect a trophy afterwards.
Predator 2 opened up a whole universe of possibilities with all of those skulls on display in the Predator ship (even putting aside that skull and writing it off as nothing more than an Easter Egg), and Prey is a lot of fun in the sequences where Feral is getting a feel for the environment he's in and hunting some of the local wildlife before moving on to going after humans. I know David Twohy's style is something I keep bringing up, in regards to Badlands, but... I'd really love to see something akin to 2013's Riddick with a Predator thrown into the mix, really grimy and pulpy and mean, with some other creatures thrown into the mix on whatever world our characters find themselves on.
EDIT: I've been reminded that it is actually Noland that gets the killing blow on the River Ghost, not one of the Predators. So yeah, the Predators never interact at all with any non-human prey on the game preserve planet where they dump all kinds of prey from around the galaxy to hunt. Cool! Then there's that mining installation that Noland is holed up in, implying the existence of some other sentient race (which may or may not even still exist), but nothing of real interest or intrigue is done with that idea, either.
How long before shooting are revealed the actors staring in a movie?
i'm thinking we'll hear about casting either by the end of this month or definitely next month.
Yeah probably next month or early June? Badlands is supposed to start filming in July and if I remember correctly Amber Midthunder was announced in May 2021 and Prey started filming a month later in June 2021.
I think MikesMonsters said he was hearing it might even start filming in June. So we're definitely going to hear something at any time now.
Bet this gets officially announced at CinemaCon today.
Did I say June? I can't remember specifically stating that but could be wrong. Lots been going on lately.
I do know camera, hair, makeup and lighting tests have been shot with some folks. I won't be surprised if full production is going ahead already, or starting soon.
All the more reason for a CinemaCon announcement, then!
Disney's panel starts in a bit under three hours.
Quote from: Mike's Monsters on Apr 11, 2024, 06:49:14 PMDid I say June? I can't remember specifically stating that but could be wrong. Lots been going on lately.
I do know camera, hair, makeup and lighting tests have been shot with some folks. I won't be surprised if full production is going ahead already, or starting soon.
I think you had said you'd heard they might go by late June.
Cinema Con was 8-11 april so it's over now. Any news out ?
Doesn't appear so.
I guess it's a bit early for info then. Patience is a virtue !
Yep, I was wrong on that one. Paramount used a lot of their panel time to make new announcements, so I figured Disney would do the same, but it turns out Disney instead primarily focused on showing off footage off from the stuff that they have coming out in the immediate future.
Prey didn't get a lot of press beyond its announcement and the main actress. I expect this movie will be kept under wraps until a trailer, and official plot synopsis is released. I expect we are in for a long wait for substantial news.
Prey was a Hulu release, though. I'd imagine the plan is likely going to be to go theatrical with Badlands, and if so it'll have a different kind of marketing push.
At the very least, we'll get some casting announcements before the film goes into production.
Quote from: RoguePred1987 on Apr 12, 2024, 11:52:01 AMQuote from: Mike's Monsters on Apr 11, 2024, 06:49:14 PMDid I say June? I can't remember specifically stating that but could be wrong. Lots been going on lately.
I do know camera, hair, makeup and lighting tests have been shot with some folks. I won't be surprised if full production is going ahead already, or starting soon.
I think you had said you'd heard they might go by late June.
Sounds like something I'd say. Been dealing with a lot of bullshit lately and a little forgetful at the moment. We will see! Knowing they've already done tests, it wouldn't surprise me if they indeed start something then. But we will find out eventually. If I hear more, I'll definitely drop it here. But for now, it's quiet again.
Quote from: Mike's Monsters on Apr 12, 2024, 04:59:15 PMQuote from: RoguePred1987 on Apr 12, 2024, 11:52:01 AMQuote from: Mike's Monsters on Apr 11, 2024, 06:49:14 PMDid I say June? I can't remember specifically stating that but could be wrong. Lots been going on lately.
I do know camera, hair, makeup and lighting tests have been shot with some folks. I won't be surprised if full production is going ahead already, or starting soon.
I think you had said you'd heard they might go by late June.
Sounds like something I'd say. Been dealing with a lot of bullshit lately and a little forgetful at the moment. We will see! Knowing they've already done tests, it wouldn't surprise me if they indeed start something then. But we will find out eventually. If I hear more, I'll definitely drop it here. But for now, it's quiet again.
The trades reported it was looking at a July start date.
https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/movies/movie-news/new-predator-movie-badlands-1235820958/
QuoteAs with Prey, Trachtenberg wrote the story with Patrick Aison, with the latter penning the screenplay. The project has been working under invisibility for some time and is far enough along that a July start of production is being planned.
If they start filming in July, then casting and plot synopsis should be coming soon right?
Maybe the lead/leads, but not necessarily more than that.
maybe a similar pattern to Prey and Alien: Romulus. first the lead then groups of casting production ramps up?
A friend of mine has told me she'll be starting a job in the art department for a new Predator film very soon.
Quote from: [cancerblack] on Apr 17, 2024, 07:29:03 PMA friend of mine has told me she'll be starting a job in the art department for a new Predator film very soon.
Is this friend a local in your area? If so, I wonder if maybe that might point to where production might be happening...
Quote from: Nightmare Asylum on Apr 17, 2024, 08:09:50 PMQuote from: [cancerblack] on Apr 17, 2024, 07:29:03 PMA friend of mine has told me she'll be starting a job in the art department for a new Predator film very soon.
Is this friend a local in your area? If so, I wonder if maybe that might point to where production might be happening...
Not in my area, she lives a few hours away in Auckland. They do a lot of filming there but it could easily be in Wellington too. I'll probe for more details though (and beg for a job lmao).
Quote from: Mike's Monsters on Feb 09, 2024, 07:33:24 PMQuote from: Nightmare Asylum on Feb 09, 2024, 07:31:01 PMShifting Alien: Romulus from Hulu to theatrical definitely felt like them acknowledging that mistake and directly responding to Prey's success, so here's hoping that continues into the future indeed.
Yep. And they seem to be learning and paying attention to everything. They really want these franchises to be the tentpoles they used to be, and they are putting the time and care into making sure they do so. I love it. Just gotta pull it off though. It could look great behind the scenes, but the final product has to deliver. I have faith it will.
My opinion: Judge as you decide.
When it comes to predator I am all for the excitement and the idea that studios and film makers have learned from the past - but I do have to have some reservations until proven otherwise. Alien as a franchise gets the star treatment. New film makers follow the formula, they are respectful to the lore, the previous films, previous designs here in the subsequent artists and too us fans.
The Predator franchise, though Prey was an enjoyable movie seems never to get that same treatment. They never capture what made Predator 1987 unique. I am still sour about the sacrilege that was Feral's new Predator face in lieu of Stan Winston's iconic and star-power design. They also always fall short with Predator's hunting, calculating, his pacing, mimicking, his patience, his studying, and his stalking - all altered or gone. Now I understand there are different preds and hunting styles and adolescence and every other reason for change since the original movies but that is my point exactly. They always feel the need to change something to the formula, whether that be character design or injecting action just because. They remove the mystery of the Predator and suspense knowing its out there watching and waiting. Study the original film, start there. Respect what came before. For me, that should be the tent pole to which the new era should be built.
That being said - its easy to brush me off or for someone to say what ever it is they'd like about my take. What I do know though is I know I am right and as I started this rant, My stance will stay and until I'm proven otherwise I will have my reservations.
Alien Resurrection had different xenomorph designs that a lot of people bashed, and still do to this day. And it didn't really follow much of the steps of the first movie.
Quote from: [cancerblack] on Apr 17, 2024, 08:16:18 PMQuote from: Nightmare Asylum on Apr 17, 2024, 08:09:50 PMQuote from: [cancerblack] on Apr 17, 2024, 07:29:03 PMA friend of mine has told me she'll be starting a job in the art department for a new Predator film very soon.
Is this friend a local in your area? If so, I wonder if maybe that might point to where production might be happening...
Not in my area, she lives a few hours away in Auckland. They do a lot of filming there but it could easily be in Wellington too. I'll probe for more details though (and beg for a job lmao).
Ask her if we can interview her. ;)
Quote from: Master Chief on Apr 25, 2024, 06:03:02 PMQuote from: [cancerblack] on Apr 17, 2024, 08:16:18 PMQuote from: Nightmare Asylum on Apr 17, 2024, 08:09:50 PMQuote from: [cancerblack] on Apr 17, 2024, 07:29:03 PMA friend of mine has told me she'll be starting a job in the art department for a new Predator film very soon.
Definitely need more info!
Is this friend a local in your area? If so, I wonder if maybe that might point to where production might be happening...
Not in my area, she lives a few hours away in Auckland. They do a lot of filming there but it could easily be in Wellington too. I'll probe for more details though (and beg for a job lmao).
Ask her if we can interview her. ;)
A film set in the future that had the tone of the escape sequence from The Predator would have my interest.
Quote from: [cancerblack] on Apr 17, 2024, 07:29:03 PMA friend of mine has told me she'll be starting a job in the art department for a new Predator film very soon.
Art department eh? Like concept art? Character art? Was she able to specify? Probably not I imagine, most likely under NDA. But you should ask and see just how much she could say.
Quote from: The Shuriken on Apr 30, 2024, 12:27:40 PMQuote from: [cancerblack] on Apr 17, 2024, 07:29:03 PMA friend of mine has told me she'll be starting a job in the art department for a new Predator film very soon.
Art department eh? Like concept art? Character art? Was she able to specify? Probably not I imagine, most likely under NDA. But you should ask and see just how much she could say.
Assistant Art Director.
Quote from: [cancerblack] on Apr 30, 2024, 03:30:19 PMQuote from: The Shuriken on Apr 30, 2024, 12:27:40 PMQuote from: [cancerblack] on Apr 17, 2024, 07:29:03 PMA friend of mine has told me she'll be starting a job in the art department for a new Predator film very soon.
Art department eh? Like concept art? Character art? Was she able to specify? Probably not I imagine, most likely under NDA. But you should ask and see just how much she could say.
Assistant Art Director.
Then I assume she's helping oversee the direction of how things look and are designed I guess.
The design of the Predator could very well be in her hands. :o
Well if it is, can
@[cancerblack] push for no more hunchback predator please ? ;D
I think her role is more about managing teams and locations than anything else, but I can stress to her how important the OG face is to the nerds online lol.
Quote from: The Shuriken on Apr 30, 2024, 05:26:33 PMThe design of the Predator could very well be in her hands. :o
No. That's between the director, producers and effects team.
I just want the face to not have drooping mandibles that can't close properly. At least that please, I'm starving and my crops haven't had good rain in the past two decades... :'(
1990 was over thirty years ago.
Quote from: BlueMarsalis79 on May 01, 2024, 07:47:32 PM1990 was over thirty years ago.
AND I'm bad at math! See how awful this is doing me wrong, I can't even count proper like anymore :'( . Please 20th Century I beg you, just make em not broken looking.
If they keep getting ADI...
I don't know why it's so hard to get that the mandibles are effectively the Predators' lips and having them constantly open makes them look like mouth-breathing imbeciles.
Not that I want to diss ADI by any means, I love their work on A3 and on the Newborn, but their predators just aren't my thing.
The Predator got it wrong by getting them to do the body and someone else to do the armour. ADI's Predator armour and weaponry is excellent.
For what it's worth, I really get the feeling that Dan came to understand just how controversial the design changes made to Feral were. I think he said something to that effect when we spoke to him, about them going so far and how he'd have reined that in.
Quote from: Corporal Hicks on May 02, 2024, 10:54:12 AMFor what it's worth, I really get the feeling that Dan came to understand just how controversial the design changes made to Feral were. I think he said something to that effect when we spoke to him, about them going so far and how he'd have reined that in.
Well that's something. Hopefully things turn out better this time. But, I'll remain pessimistic, for safety reasons.
I'll balance the scales by remaining optimistic, since Feral was a cool dude.
Don't listen to them, Dan. Feral was OK
Like I said earlier, I definitely don't want every Predator to look/act like Feral. That'd be bad both for Feral as an individual, and the presentation of the race as a whole. So I do hope that Badlands shakes things up from what Prey gave us. But not in a "course correction" sort of way. More so in a "here's another individual" sort of way.
Honestly, forums/fan groups like this are the only places I've really seen people complaining about his look, anyways. With the broader audience at large, based on what I've seen in general on the internet (where the film seems to have been a massive success with a wide audience), people seem very hot on Feral (no, not like that! Well... I'm sure some people are hot on him like that but, that is not the point I was making!).
I thought Feral was an interesting departure, but I wouldn't want to see something like that again, just like I wouldn't want to see the Predators predators again.
Feral makes me forget Prey is supposed to be a Predator movie.
What do you guys think, will Dan Trachtenberg choose ADI again for Badlands or will he try Studio Gillis?
Now of course he may want to work with another special effects studio, but since they loved working together (Trachtenberg, Gillis and Woodruff Jr.) I'm curious which one of the two he'd choose to work with for a second round.
Studio Gillis IS ADI, just without Tom at the helm
And based on Mike's comments from around the time this was announced, Dane DiLiegro was meeting with StudioGillis relatively recently (as per his Instagram stories at the time), so presumably both Dane and Alec Gillis will be back.
I think there is something to be said that even with merchandising, fan art, and even cosplay where you see their Predators have closed proper mandibles but the recent films have them droopy, broken looking, and open catching flies. Hot Toys comes to mind in how they polish the design of the film by making them proper.
To be fair, Scar was sculpted to close, and BTS shows them closing.