First Marvel Collection Revealed

Started by Russ840, Aug 19, 2020, 07:48:02 PM

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Glaive

Glaive

#120
No Labryrinth?


...and, Hicks, what were your views on 'Tribes'...?

HuDaFuK

HuDaFuK

#121
Quote from: Glaive on Aug 30, 2020, 05:47:53 PMNo Labryrinth?

They seem to be going chronologically. Labyrinth would be later.

Corporal Hicks

Quote from: Glaive on Aug 30, 2020, 05:47:53 PM
...and, Hicks, what were your views on 'Tribes'...?

It's on my re-read list as it's been a while, but I remember really enjoying it.

As much as we're celebrating the collections, looks like the old creators are now being f**ked over under Marvel.



I can't embed this last one but here's one from the writer of Tribes, who also talks about difficulties getting Tribes made and trying to get a sequel done with Titan (sounds like they were really being dicks to him and Dorman about that one).

https://www.facebook.com/stephen.bissette.7/posts/10160447434898289


There were some comments from Mark Verheiden somewhere but can't see them now.

Russ840

Russ840

#123
To be fair, if it's not in the contract then why would Marvel pay?

It's a shame that they won't receive royalties but Marvel (Disney) owns the material so it's business.





426Buddy

Imo creators should always get a royalty when their work is sold for profit. If the laws don't support that then they should.

Voodoo Magic

Quote from: 426Buddy on Aug 31, 2020, 12:04:49 PM
Imo creators should always get a royalty when their work is sold for profit. If the laws don't support that then they should.

Yes!

Russ840

Russ840

#126
Quote from: 426Buddy on Aug 31, 2020, 12:04:49 PM
Imo creators should always get a royalty when their work is sold for profit. If the laws don't support that then they should.

Would be great in the ideal world.

426Buddy

Does anyone know if the DH starwars creators were screwed by marvel too?

Perfect-Organism

Quote from: Corporal Hicks on Aug 31, 2020, 10:57:54 AM
Quote from: Glaive on Aug 30, 2020, 05:47:53 PM
...and, Hicks, what were your views on 'Tribes'...?

It's on my re-read list as it's been a while, but I remember really enjoying it.

As much as we're celebrating the collections, looks like the old creators are now being f**ked over under Marvel.

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I can't embed this last one but here's one from the writer of Tribes, who also talks about difficulties getting Tribes made and trying to get a sequel done with Titan (sounds like they were really being dicks to him and Dorman about that one).

https://www.facebook.com/stephen.bissette.7/posts/10160447434898289


There were some comments from Mark Verheiden somewhere but can't see them now.

So if Mark Verheiden is also getting disrespected in this Marvel acquisition, is it fair for him to take umbrage with Titan?  Titan doesn't seem to be paying Verheiden for his work that was compiled into an omnibus, nor even giving him credit.  I know the books were written by Perry, but they were adaptations of Verheiden's work.  How does this happen?

Corporal Hicks

Quote from: 426Buddy on Aug 31, 2020, 01:30:56 PM
Does anyone know if the DH starwars creators were screwed by marvel too?

From what I read from those guys on FB last night, yes.


Quote from: Perfect-Organism on Aug 31, 2020, 01:40:24 PM
So if Mark Verheiden is also getting disrespected in this Marvel acquisition, is it fair for him to take umbrage with Titan?  Titan doesn't seem to be paying Verheiden for his work that was compiled into an omnibus, nor even giving him credit.  I know the books were written by Perry, but they were adaptations of Verheiden's work.  How does this happen?

I'm not sure they ever did originally.

HuDaFuK

HuDaFuK

#130
Quote from: Corporal Hicks on Aug 31, 2020, 10:57:54 AMAs much as we're celebrating the collections, looks like the old creators are now being f**ked over under Marvel.

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I can't embed this last one but here's one from the writer of Tribes, who also talks about difficulties getting Tribes made and trying to get a sequel done with Titan (sounds like they were really being dicks to him and Dorman about that one).

https://www.facebook.com/stephen.bissette.7/posts/10160447434898289

Those don't seem to be showing up now. Can you remember the gist?

Also really interesting to hear about the Tribes sequel. The book itself promised more volumes in the same style, yet clearly they never happened.

Corporal Hicks


Rambo

Rambo

#132
This was my first question when this was announced. Sad to see. Hopefully the popularity of these artists' works lead Marvel to offer opportunities for new work from some legacy names.

SuperiorIronman

I don't know why Marvel would be under any obligation to pay them though as the agreement was with another company. Credited sure but I don't know why Marvel would pay them royalties as they have no contract with them. It sucks that they can't still make money on the reprints (if they made anything at all) but I just don't see why Marvel is about to kick down everyone's door to hand them a check. The shit's been around for 30+ years so I have a hard time seeing them track down the old teams to do this even out of the kindness of their own heart.

Marvel is good about getting back older talent though. The company does pick up the old creatives to do new work and to me that'd make more sense to negotiate a contract with them then.

But yeah as much as this sucks I just don't see them paying it given they have no reason to honor that agreement since they're not Darkhorse.

Corporal Hicks

Corporal Hicks

#134
https://twitter.com/NearMintCon/status/1300523827487739904?s=19


From what I've read, I think Dark Horse weren't technically obliged to keep paying them royalties after the work was completed, but they did.

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