As has become tradition, a catch-all thread for the smaller things to do with Alien: Romulus that might not warrant their own thread or taking over another thread. If something is of particular interest, please post it as its own thread.
Not sure the source on these (potentially self-uploads by the crew, I guess), but I noticed a few additional key crew positions on IMDb:
Costume Design - Carlos Rosario
Set Designer - Kaitlyn Sandeman
Visual Effects Supervisor - Eric Barba
Costume Concept Artist - James Casey Holland
Supervising Digital Colorist - Mitch Paulson
http://carlosrosario.squarespace.com/
Lovely website, might be worth keeping an eye on it.
From Variety's version of the recent casting article. They are
probably just misspeaking here, but obviously I don't know for sure, so I figured this was worth sharing:
QuoteThe untitled project joins the prequel series, which first premiered in 2012, with "Prometheus," followed by "Alien: Covenant."
https://variety.com/2023/film/news/new-alien-movie-plot-synopsis-full-cast-1235542570/
I made a remark elsewhere in the forums regarding this. From the Variety comment above, does this mean that we will be getting a conclusion or continuation to the story from Alien:Covenant? Previously, this film was pitched as a standalone story, but we have seen these kinds of marketing shenanigans before. Remember when Prometheus was "not an Alien movie but existed in the same universe"? Also, Fede pitched the story to Ridley Scott. Scott or Scott Free do not own Alien, but it was important to get his involvement with the story. If the colony in this film is made up of relatively young people, it could be akin to what we saw in Raised by Wolves: an upstart colony predominantly made up of young people who encounter mysteries on the home planet where the story is told. Could it be that the Covenant is a form of derelict that is found there? Just speculating. I also thought about this when I saw the crashed ship in the Noah Hawley Alien art (giant WY ship crashed into a metro area with Alien eggs inside). I would be all for the "David storyline" to conclude.
It is being filmed at Origo film studios so obviously it's Origae 6 😄
Fan made poster:
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FqyO69NaIAE52sq?format=jpg&name=large)
Quote from: The Eighth Passenger on Mar 09, 2023, 07:51:31 PMFan made poster:
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FqyO69NaIAE52sq?format=jpg&name=large
Whoever made it seems to be taking their cue from the
Covenant poster. I really dig it.
Quote from: The Eighth Passenger on Mar 09, 2023, 07:51:31 PMFan made poster:
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FqyO69NaIAE52sq?format=jpg&name=large
lol it's the Fortnite Xeno model
(https://media.tenor.com/bAD1Vow1gSYAAAAd/alien-fortnite.gif)
Ay lmao
I like the other one that's been going around:
https://twitter.com/brutalposters/status/1632727756139114496?s=46&t=9CBH0FCLqVD5zpN4_hSRXQ
Some more IG stories from Spaeney.
(https://i.imgur.com/poleSHw.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/dicdwZt.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/VzEOTRY.jpg)
Spoiler
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The girls are workin'... ;D
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Waiting on that first official image...
PO says it's coming to theaters, but not seeing any other info anywhere stating this.
https://twitter.com/Podcast_PO/status/1645500109432700929?s=20
Probably this is just referring to theatrical showings its premieres, like Prey had, as well as that Santa Monica screening. I doubt Romulus will get much more than that. I'd love to be wrong though. If Disney is indeed thinking of offloading their ownership stake in Hulu they could switch up their strategy.
I would love nothing more than a proper theatrical release, but yeah, I'm inclined to agree with what RidgeTop is saying here.
Hope we can get at least a tidbit around alien day, I'd take a small message from Fede.
Quote from: RidgeTop on Apr 10, 2023, 07:38:34 PMProbably this is just referring to theatrical showings its premieres, like Prey had, as well as that Santa Monica screening. I doubt Romulus will get much more than that. I'd love to be wrong though. If Disney is indeed thinking of offloading their ownership stake in Hulu they could switch up their strategy.
I'm hoping for this.
Quote from: Necronomicon II on Apr 11, 2023, 12:11:32 PMHope we can get at least a tidbit around alien day, I'd take a small message from Fede.
Aye, a quick message from him (and maybe Spaeny, too) on set just saying they're knee deep in production would be pretty neat.
Do we have any idea how long principal photography is?
It should be in the can by the end of May, leading to a Spring/Summer 2024 release.
Horror is hot right now and studios are starting to shift away from the direct-to-streamer release model, so I can definitely see it get a theatrical release.
(https://i.postimg.cc/Cxm1vn1B/IMG-4078.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/v4xbTB5b)
Here we go!
Direct links!
https://twitter.com/fedalvar/status/1651263216624738306
8) 8) 8)
EDIT:
Wait!
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(https://eu-images.contentstack.com/v3/assets/blt95b381df7c12c15d/blt2d2d469f79289ebd/611e9302c888fe32025aa0ce/Alien_20Isolation_20Save_201.jpg?width=828&quality=80&format=webply&disable=upscale)
HAHAHA this rocks.
Dane Hallet is supposedly on board?
Quote from: [cancerblack] on Apr 27, 2023, 01:37:49 AMDane Hallet is supposedly on board?
I believe so. His Instagram seemed to imply so, at least.
I take it back, he didn't just infer. Yesterday he finally explicitly confirmed his involvement!
That's excellent, I love Dane Hallett's prior work.
Combing through Hallett's comments on that post, and you can see some other artists confirming that they worked on the film as well. Their Instagram accounts will probably be worth keeping an eye on in the months ahead as well.
Also, Hallett mentioned that Odd Studio is actually not involved in this production, but there are a ton of other LA-based effects houses on board.
Very curious to how people will react to finding out who's doing the creature effects. 8)
Quote from: Mike's Monsters on Apr 27, 2023, 06:58:59 PMVery curious to how people will react to finding out who's doing the creature effects. 8)
I know we ruled out Odd with Hallett's Instagram comments but, I forget, has ADI been ruled out yet...?
EDIT: StudioGillis, rather.
I don't think it would be worth mentioning if they did the effects. I'm guessing someone along the lines of Weta or Legacy.
I think it's been confirmed to not be Weta; pretty sure they're only doing the show.
Legacy could definitely be it.
Quote from: Mike's Monsters on Apr 27, 2023, 06:58:59 PMVery curious to how people will react to finding out who's doing the creature effects. 8)
In order to qualify for a goverments film rebate and incentive program, production companies are usually obligated to hire local talent whenever possible. Hence why Aussie based Odd Studios got the Covenant gig.
So I assume Filmefex Studio (Blade Runner 2049, Game of Thrones) based in Budapest will do some creature effects as they previously worked with Scott Free productions and specialize in creature effects.
If they are bringing LA houses in as well then I assume it would probably be ADI who has the most experience with the franchise?
Again, why would it be remarkable for StudioGillis to do the effects work?
If it's not Weta it's probably Legacy.
It's not too Odd that Mike is acting like people are going to Weta themselves when they find out which of these Legacy studios are handling the effects. There are certainly going to be a lot of people chuffed to the Gillis by the news.
...
....KNB.
Quote from: Kailem on Apr 27, 2023, 09:27:37 PMIt's not too Odd that Mike is acting like people are going to Weta themselves when they find out which of these Legacy studios are handling the effects. There are certainly going to be a lot of people chuffed to the Gillis by the news.
...
....KNB.
You're a legendary wordsmith, sir.
Instagram accounts of some additional concept artists for this project:
https://www.instagram.com/nick_stath/
https://www.instagram.com/coldesign/
https://www.instagram.com/mattsav.concept/
Probably worth a follow for when they're eventually able to share their work.
Quote from: Nightmare Asylum on Apr 28, 2023, 01:10:26 AMInstagram accounts of some additional concept artists for this project:
https://www.instagram.com/nick_stath/
https://www.instagram.com/coldesign/
https://www.instagram.com/mattsav.concept/
Probably worth a follow for when they're eventually able to share their work.
Interresting connections here, Nick Stath is an Aussie who previously worked on The Martian and Prometheus.
Coldesign is also an Aussie and Wayne Haag's (Alien Covenant) buddy.
Matthew Savage has previously worked on Prometheus and The Martian.
Quote from: Mike's Monsters on Apr 27, 2023, 06:58:59 PMVery curious to how people will react to finding out who's doing the creature effects. 8)
This strongly implies it's a creature effects house which isn't Studio Gillis.
Quote from: SiL on Apr 27, 2023, 08:34:55 PMAgain, why would it be remarkable for StudioGillis to do the effects work?
If it's not Weta it's probably Legacy.
Agreed.
Not a fan of ADI or other derivatives' work on the franchise (though, the masked Predator in Prey was pretty damn good). That being said, I am cautiously optimistic about this project.
Quote from: The Eighth Passenger on Apr 27, 2023, 08:30:06 PMQuote from: Mike's Monsters on Apr 27, 2023, 06:58:59 PMVery curious to how people will react to finding out who's doing the creature effects. 8)
In order to qualify for a goverments film rebate and incentive program, production companies are usually obligated to hire local talent whenever possible. Hence why Aussie based Odd Studios got the Covenant gig.
So I assume Filmefex Studio (Blade Runner 2049, Game of Thrones) based in Budapest will do some creature effects as they previously worked with Scott Free productions and specialize in creature effects.
If they are bringing LA houses in as well then I assume it would probably be ADI who has the most experience with the franchise?
I thought ADI was done? Tom and Alec went their separate ways.
I liked the Predators face in prey, it was different but I think its the only scary looking predator, The cgi close ups looked off though, not so much the designs because it wasn't real changed but it looked to shiney and had that old video game plastic look to it. I'm guessing the budget was cut when they decided to go straight to streaming because it didn't look much better than the practical mask. I think one of the mandibles was malfunctioning, maybe that's why they ripped it off? because they couldn't fix it, lol.
They wanted to do the CGI from the beginning. It was always direct to streaming, they didn't have budget cuts.
Quote from: bobcunk on Apr 30, 2023, 02:24:17 AMQuote from: The Eighth Passenger on Apr 27, 2023, 08:30:06 PMQuote from: Mike's Monsters on Apr 27, 2023, 06:58:59 PMVery curious to how people will react to finding out who's doing the creature effects. 8)
In order to qualify for a goverments film rebate and incentive program, production companies are usually obligated to hire local talent whenever possible. Hence why Aussie based Odd Studios got the Covenant gig.
So I assume Filmefex Studio (Blade Runner 2049, Game of Thrones) based in Budapest will do some creature effects as they previously worked with Scott Free productions and specialize in creature effects.
If they are bringing LA houses in as well then I assume it would probably be ADI who has the most experience with the franchise?
I thought ADI was done? Tom and Alec went their separate ways.
Well, Studio Gillis really. It's just that "Very curious to how people will react to finding out who's doing the creature effects" comment from
@Mike's Monsters that makes me suspect it might be Alec.
ADI has a very divisive reputation on here, if it was just some random effects house doing the creature effects most people would probably just shrug their shoulders and move on. ADI's co-founder's involvement on the other hand would spark a lot of debate.
Gillis was also attached to Blomkamp's project so it might be possible someone at 20th felt sorry for him and arranged for him to work on this, who knows?
It's very much not Studio Gillis.
Legacy isn't a "random effects house", it's the successor to Stan Winston studios. It's about the only studio people would give a shit hearing about.
Quote from: SiL on Apr 30, 2023, 10:35:28 AMIt's very much not Studio Gillis.
Legacy isn't a "random effects house", it's the successor to Stan Winston studios. It's about the only studio people would give a shit hearing about.
Further evidence to support it isn't Studio Gillis is in the other pinned thread beneath this one, where both RidgeTop and Hicks said in their own ways "people will be plenty excited about the effects studio working on this one".
I'll bet money on Legacy then.
Same.
Quote from: hamilton_milo on Apr 30, 2023, 10:41:10 AMFurther evidence to support it isn't Studio Gillis is in the other pinned thread beneath this one, where both RidgeTop and Hicks said in their own ways "people will be plenty excited about the effects studio working on this one".
Well then, it's probably
NOT ADI/Gillis then. :laugh:
*Unless Hicks & RidgeTop = excitement to rioting.
You'll all need a change of underwear. ;D
So stop our grinning and drop our linen?
Stan Winston's ghost.
https://twitter.com/Podcast_PO/status/1656088413765013504
Aside from the saving station, and Cobb's semiotics, what else is there that makes them so certain?
I'm not complaining but how legit is this news?
Also wouldn't that just mean it's inspired by Alien?
Yeah, since Alien Isolation was directly inspired by Alien.
Though it has it's own little additions here and there, like the retro save stations, but that was also designed with Alien's aesthetic in mind.
I'm fairly certain they're talking to someone on production.
Isolation does have unique artistic liberties, stuff that reads as Isolation specifically to me rather than Alien 1979.
(https://switchplayer.net/wp-content/uploads/2019/12/Switch_Alien_02-700x393.jpg)
(https://cdn.cghero.com/files/2021-06-09/upaw49KvahNBvv4B.jpg?versionId=D284YPOmzy_pT92doCMlQjKslqbfIQCb)
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But also:
https://twitter.com/fedalvar/status/1651263216624738306
Blinds in the back remind me of Hadley's Hope.
Isolation took the 79 Aesthetic and did an aggressive expansion on how it would apply to different aspects of the world from space stations to police and civilian life, other companies..
Seeing it used as an inspiration is super well deserved imo.
And who knows.. .maybe this movie will make the game proper "canon" alongside the movies lol
also - stompy is super well animated. incredible creature work making the alien look damn good while it's always in your face during gameplay.
Hope they use that specific design.
Please not that f**king jaw though.
Feelings on the Fireteam Elite one?
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(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/E0yrbN7WQAs8d6q?format=jpg&name=4096x4096)
(https://cdnb.artstation.com/p/assets/images/images/062/190/919/4k/brx-myers-xeno-render-01.jpg?1682550669)
(https://cdna.artstation.com/p/assets/images/images/062/191/072/large/brx-myers-warrior-in-game-01.jpg?1682551057)
(https://cdna.artstation.com/p/assets/images/images/062/191/032/4k/brx-myers-xeno-drone-render-hp-side.jpg?1682550967)
https://www.artstation.com/artwork/04zdXV
I love the Isolation alien. I think it's the best there ever was. Just wished it had lips and could assume a more relaxed face.
The Fireteam elite is ok. a bit busy. and could use a little more grace.
Quote from: BlueMarsalis79 on May 11, 2023, 12:08:42 PMFeelings on the Fireteam Elite one?
The longer I look the worse it gets. Good for a game
Literally how
It has most features of the Isolation and 1979 Alien, without the inelegant shapes of the Isolation one you so utterly despise, with some curbersome parts cut out to give it a more Alien appearance. I get the feeling nothing but a one to one would satisfy.
Have a feeling this might be his chair for a certain movie:
https://www.instagram.com/p/CsHPdJmIVbe/?igshid=MmJiY2I4NDBkZg==
Quote from: BlueMarsalis79 on May 11, 2023, 11:52:09 PMLiterally how
The skull under the dome is almost comical.
The features are there, they're just not rendered nicely. It's too sharp, too spiky, too monstrous. There's none of Giger's elegance in it. It's a game monster design.
I might not like Stompy's face but the rest of it is perfect. Except the legs, but I'm never winning that battle.
The skull being more proportional to the jaw's my favourite thing about the design.
I think you've got it backwards frankly speaking. I like Stompy because I like different takes, but it pretty much falls under all of your criticisms, not the Aliens Fireteam Elite Drone.
(https://cdnb.artstation.com/p/assets/images/images/010/363/503/medium/zachariah-scott-xp000014.jpg?1524030450)
(https://cdna.artstation.com/p/assets/images/images/010/363/502/large/zachariah-scott-xp000032.jpg?1524030450)
(https://i.imgur.com/X3puuy5.jpg)
Picked the above images for clarity, look at the size of the legs and arms in comparison to the torso, or the back pipes and shoulders or even the head, not just the jaw.
All are much larger that usual, to give it a much more monstrous appearance, I think it works, but it is nowhere near as slight as the Alien typically depicted or human in silouette.
But it has elegance. a vital component in xenomorph design.
Thanks for posting those pics. I gotta say I prefer the Fireteam Elite design over Stompy. The subtle curves in the carapace around the (hidden) skull look better, although that may well be down to nostalgia for the Giger original. I also prefer Fireteam's feet. Stompy's dog legs look fine in stills but when animated in a walk cycle he looks like he's in a partial squat. OTOH, the Fireteam banana head looks too small, although it looks OK in the more dynamic poses.
TC
Quote from: BlueMarsalis79 on May 12, 2023, 10:56:04 AMThe skull being more proportional to the jaw's my favourite thing about the design.
I think you've got it backwards frankly speaking. I like Stompy because I like different takes, but it pretty much falls under all of your criticisms, not the Aliens Fireteam Elite Drone.
"Why do you think that?"
I explain.
"No, you're wrong."
Please just put me on ignore.
I have no issues with differences of opinion but your explanation made no sense to me.
Does that settle that, then? Is StudioGillis our team here?
:-X
The chap in the middle is a social media manager for Stan Winston's School btw.
🤫
Well Dane said "every other main LA based fx house" is doing something in it. Kinda knew StudioGillis was going to be one of the shops since Alec reposted the Fede tease on Alien day... on a personal level I just have to hope their involvement isn't with big chap.
Although, whoever would be creating the Alien is bringing Dane Hallett's sketches to life, that will be their brief, to do that as accurately as possible, so that shouldn't be so hard to do... we all know Dane is incredible. That makes me pretty optimistic.
It's not Gillis read between the lines my guys.
Quote from: SiL on May 20, 2023, 08:34:48 AMIt's not Gillis read between the lines my guys.
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https://www.facebook.com/hallett.dane/posts/pfbid0Ai2LbxhH7Ku4ojGF4i6naDRs24yWmgaMGzWBxbNqs9dHgobpykUs4nCvrgrRASmDl
Dane replied in the comments on IG to his new post, "after the theatrical run, I will unleash biomechanical hell" (in regards to releasing concept art for Romulus).
Quote from: Corporal Hicks on May 21, 2023, 06:16:10 AMhttps://www.facebook.com/hallett.dane/posts/pfbid0Ai2LbxhH7Ku4ojGF4i6naDRs24yWmgaMGzWBxbNqs9dHgobpykUs4nCvrgrRASmDl
Still in Budapest, eh? Might be more involved with the production design side of things (a la
Covenant, where his art pieces were used on set as props/dressing) rather than just doing concept designs, I'd imagine.... Hmmm....
Yeah, I think with Covenant he was technically working set decoration so he was on production, not pre.
Quote from: Corporal Hicks on May 21, 2023, 10:41:04 AMI think with Covenant he was technically working set decoration so he was on production, not pre.
Yep yep, my wording got a little muddied in my above post but what I meant was, since he's still at Budapest now as production is well underway, maybe he's also doing similar production design work on
Romulus as opposed to just concept art as we are initially led to believe.
Quote from: hamilton_milo on May 21, 2023, 07:52:52 AMDane replied in the comments on IG to his new post, "after the theatrical run, I will unleash biomechanical hell" (in regards to releasing concept art for Romulus).
Oh hell yes! David's drawings were great, the best thing about the movie so far for me is that Dane is involved! ;D
Aye, I think I'm about due to flip through the David artbook again. 8)
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I wonder what constitutes as "bucket list" items for him to work on in an Alien film...
He already got to redesign other forms of the Alien, so I guess something completely new, or perhaps a Queen.
Quote from: BlueMarsalis79 on May 22, 2023, 12:24:15 AMHe already got to redesign other forms of the Alien, so I guess something completely new, or perhaps a Queen.
I guess it could also potentially mean taking things fully biomechinical this time around, which
Covenant sidestepped around in hopes of saving those cards for "Destiny."
The future is biomechanical! ;D
Quote from: BlueMarsalis79 on May 22, 2023, 12:24:15 AMHe already got to redesign other forms of the Alien, so I guess something completely new, or perhaps a Queen.
A new Queen design would be welcome for me, in fact I would have liked to see David's version before the third prequel was left in development hell.
:laugh: Love Dane. He needs to be a bit more careful in social media. Shhh!
Quote from: BlueMarsalis79 on May 22, 2023, 12:24:15 AMHe already got to redesign other forms of the Alien, so I guess something completely new, or perhaps a Queen.
i'm thinking he got to redesign the alien for all stages of the lifecycle (including the queen).
Don't think they'll go with "something we haven't seen" here.. unless.. maybe. a ultramorph?
Quote from: Immortan Jonesy on May 22, 2023, 01:52:23 AMA new Queen design would be welcome for me, in fact I would have liked to see David's version before the third prequel was left in development hell.
(https://www.indiewire.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/05/katherine-waterston-alien-covenant.jpg)
https://twitter.com/podcast_po/status/1662881473723269121?s=46&t=_UkEryu2c2UmLOQcQ5K4SA
Yeah, I can corroborate that one.
...
ffs
Interesting....
Makes the Alien: Isolation influence (and the Aliens-era WY logo, since there's definitely wiggle room now to say this is set after the logo changed over) on the set design feel all the more apt, too.
....are we gonna get some Seegson/Sevastopol references?
At least it's not a prequel to Alien anymore, we're making progress, right? :laugh:
Quote from: Still Collating... on May 28, 2023, 10:13:53 PMAt least it's not a prequel to Alien anymore, we're making progress, right? :laugh:
Noah Hawley has entered the chat
Now that we have a rough timeframe, is it too early to start speculating about the origin of the film's Aliens/Eggs?
By my estimation, they could be from LV-426 (as was the case in
Alien: Isolation), they could come from David/the Covenant, or (probably the most likely option) they could simply be discovered on whatever new world this film is (partially?) set on.
Spoiler
Since we seemingly have a crew of salvagers in this film, having them retrieve Eggs from (or get infected while investing) the long-since-abandoned Covenant could be neat.
It'll all make sense to everyone in good time... 😉
Romulus created the Aliens after killing Remus, got it!
Just saw the post of it taking place between Alien and Aliens. I'm not sure how I feel about that probably because I'm wary of a possible saturation effect in that era.
So... this is the fall of Hadley's Hope then?
Not likely, but who knows.
Quote from: DaveT937 on May 29, 2023, 06:22:52 AMSo... this is the fall of Hadley's Hope then?
How'd you come to
that conclusion?
😂 Yeah, no.
What are the chances that this reuses some ideas from the Alien Destiny script....
could this use the Destiny ship?
You're destined to find out soon enough. 😜
Also I know there's been a lot of real estate established in the EU between Alien and Aliens, however what Fede pitched is far more justified than all of them, heck even Isolation (which I adore). I'll shut up now. 😛🤐
Quote from: Necronomicon II on May 29, 2023, 12:04:16 PMAlso I know there's been a lot of real estate established in the EU between Alien and Aliens, however what Fede pitched is far more justified than all of them, heck even Isolation (which I adore). I'll shut up now. 😛🤐
This... excites and intrigues me a lot.
Maybe this is a spiritual movie of Isolation? No Amanda Ripley but a smiliar plot to another ship finding the derelict then taking their facehugged quarry to the nearest available sevastopol-esque colony where hilarity ensues?
This is the best era of Aliens. Perhaps this movie could turn out a fan favorite?
But I have to try and contain my enthusiasm...
Quote from: TheBATMAN on May 29, 2023, 01:30:36 PMMaybe this is a spiritual movie of Isolation? No Amanda Ripley but a smiliar plot to another ship finding the derelict then taking their facehugged quarry to the nearest available sevastopol-esque colony where hilarity ensues?
I don't know... based on
@Necronomicon II's comment above, I don't think Alien: Isolation, sans Amanda and moved into a WY facility is really what Fede's going for here.
Only time will really tell, but I'm getting the inkling of something a tad... weirder, maybe? Take into consideration, Hallett's comment about seeing some things Ridley wanted to do in "Alien: Destiny," but not quite in the way Ridley would have done them...
Nice, lot of potential for story in that 57-year gap.
Hope it doesn't reference the 'prequels' at all.
Quote from: Adam802 on May 29, 2023, 09:28:43 PMNice, lot of potential for story in that 57-year gap.
Hope it doesn't reference the 'prequels' at all.
Would that be possible with Scott as producer and gatekeeper?
With Dane Hallett back to concept art and production design..
there's a good chance that it will indeed reference the prequels and bridge the gap between them and the main series.
And very possibly with more tact than Ridderz would use on his lonesome.
this trying to tie itself for the prequels will be really disappointing for me
Well, the prequels are part of the franchise and have been for many years at this point even if we all don't like it. We might end up liking the way they are all tied together once we all see it play out.
Quote from: PAS Spinelli on May 30, 2023, 01:30:35 AMthis trying to tie itself for the prequels will be really disappointing for me
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Yeah, and I'll deal with it by being disappointed that we are going back to that poorly done storyline that should have stayed dead
Quote from: DaveT937 on May 29, 2023, 06:22:52 AMSo... this is the fall of Hadley's Hope then?
As far as I'm aware - definitely not.
Quote from: 426Buddy on May 28, 2023, 06:48:18 PM...
ffs
I don't see anything that wrong with this. We've had some brilliant stories set between the two films - Destroying Angels and Isolation come straight to mind. Out of the Shadows was better than it had the right to be too.
I'd prefer post-Alien 3 just because it's a tidier timeframe, but then you still run into contradicting Resurrection (not that most folk care).
Quote from: Corporal Hicks on May 30, 2023, 09:49:05 AMDestroying Angels
A certain subset of snobs loves to hate on DA but I'd pay cash f**kin' money to see something in that vein on screen.
Who the hell hates DA? I've never heard a word against it.
I always thought it was sorely lacking in Aliens but I otherwise dug it.
I mean it and Prometheus have a lot of similarities, Alien Engineers even more.
DA is what Prometheus wishes it were.
A-f**king-men to the above. Destroying Angels is what I wish Prometheus was.
I always assumed there would be some link to the prequels because it seemed so curious the usually protective Ridley Scott handed the keys over so willingly to Fede Alvarez. Including such a link in his pitch probably helped him get the gig.
I wouldnt mind a connection because it would make the two prequels feel a bit more connected to the main series. But that being said, I dont want said connection to be too overbearing and take the focus away from the Alien.
Cautiously optimistic but im always very wary of the space between the Alien and Aliens timeline.
I just don't like the idea of putting a film between the first two. Can't explain it but I don't like it for a film.
Maybe its because the EU can't keep its paws off of that time period.
Knowing that Romulus is set post-Alien, and delivering on ideas/concepts from the prequels (or so Dane Hallett and Perfect Organism Podcast have alluded to), has my level of excitement growing even more with every bit of Romulus news that's released, honestly. I'm so glad that elements of prequels are not going to be limited solely to the pre-Alien films on-screen. I think post-Alien 3 is still probably the most "open" era to be playing around in, but there's also a pretty significant amount of wiggle room pre-Aliens to do something interesting that is totally Ripley-adjacent (no connection to Ellen or Amanda here, please and thank you), I feel.
I think the itch to revisit Alien: Isolation is creeping up now... I've actually only played the game in full once, but the shared general timeframe between that game and Romulus and the overlap in aesthetic influences between the two has definitely been putting me in the mood again.
Quote from: Still Collating... on May 28, 2023, 10:13:53 PMAt least it's not a prequel to Alien anymore, we're making progress, right? :laugh:
It's sidequel ;D
Quote from: PAS Spinelli on May 30, 2023, 01:30:35 AMthis trying to tie itself for the prequels will be really disappointing for me
Don't worry, I don't think we'll see any stick bugs on this one ;D
Quote from: Nightmare Asylum on May 30, 2023, 12:03:40 PMKnowing that Romulus is set post-Alien, and delivering on ideas/concepts from the prequels (or so Dane Hallett and Perfect Organism Podcast have alluded to), has my level of excitement growing even more with every bit of Romulus news that's released, honestly. I'm so glad that elements of prequels are not going to be limited solely to the pre-Alien films on-screen. I think post-Alien 3 is still probably the most "open" era to be playing around in, but there's also a pretty significant amount of wiggle room pre-Aliens to do something interesting that is totally Ripley-adjacent (no connection to Ellen or Amanda here, please and thank you), I feel.
I think the itch to revisit Alien: Isolation is creeping up now... I've actually only played the game in full once, but the shared general timeframe between that game and Romulus and the overlap in aesthetic influences between the two has definitely been putting me in the mood again.
Bravo! Well said 8)
I saw a mention of Destroying Angels and I would totally pay to see that on screen.
Quote from: Immortan Jonesy on May 30, 2023, 01:34:52 PMQuote from: PAS Spinelli on May 30, 2023, 01:30:35 AMthis trying to tie itself for the prequels will be really disappointing for me
Don't worry, I don't think we'll see any stick bugs on this one ;D
GOD I HATE THE STICKBUGS
The what?
Quote from: [cancerblack] on Jun 01, 2023, 02:11:34 AMThe what?
Covenant's Aliens. I've seen the name kind of taken on affectionately/jokingly given the spindly limbs, overall body proportions, and the poses they tend to strike, as in what is probably the most iconic shot of them from the film:
(https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/05/alien-covenant-ac_152_00459216_rgb_copy_-_h_2017.jpg?w=1296&h=730&crop=1)
Oh no they look great in that shot, but horrible from every other angle, their texture and coloring also makes them look like wood
As an unfinished, proto-Alien sans mechanical odds and ends, I rather like the design. Has a bit of an uncanny feeling for sure, with the proportions of the limbs not looking quite right for the body and a lot of angles really emphasizing that dichotomy, but that's something that makes the design really click for me - it's almost there but not quite the thing it should be yet.
I kind of see them as a better version of what Resurrection's fleshier Aliens were going for (though in theory on paper, they're kind of the inverse. Covenant is building towards the biomechanical, while Resurrection is moving away from it without a proper guiding hand given the human DNA added back into the genetic soup).
Ah. I really like their proportions actually, but can't say the same for the texturing.
Honestly, I don't want any obvious continuity with anything. Visual references, yeah, but I want it completely standalone, though without anything that would take it out of actual continuity.
That way, it doesn't really matter where and when it's set.
Quote from: Stitch on Jun 01, 2023, 04:55:40 PMHonestly, I don't want any obvious continuity with anything. Visual references, yeah, but I want it completely standalone, though without anything that would take it out of actual continuity.
That way, it doesn't really matter where and when it's set.
I second the motion. A back to basics, stand alone Alien. One that has a smart script, a tight story, and anxiety inducing horror.
Exactly what I initially suspected when Fede Alvarez appeared on the scene...
Quote from: Stitch on Jun 01, 2023, 04:55:40 PMHonestly, I don't want any obvious continuity with anything. Visual references, yeah, but I want it completely standalone, though without anything that would take it out of actual continuity.
That way, it doesn't really matter where and when it's set.
And not what you are going to get, judging by Ridley Scott being involved, and the behind the scenes knowledge others have on this very forum.
Quote from: BlueMarsalis79 on Jun 02, 2023, 12:14:16 PMExactly what I initially suspected when Fede Alvarez appeared on the scene...
Quote from: Stitch on Jun 01, 2023, 04:55:40 PMHonestly, I don't want any obvious continuity with anything. Visual references, yeah, but I want it completely standalone, though without anything that would take it out of actual continuity.
That way, it doesn't really matter where and when it's set.
And not what you are going to get, judging by Ridley Scott being involved, and the behind the scenes knowledge others have on this very forum.
Indeed. More's the pity.
(https://i.imgur.com/5mc29w8.jpeg)
Hmm, I did rather enjoy the coloring and cinematography on Blade Runner 2049.
Kinda hope perfect organism stop trickling tidbits of info now because I swear to god if they spoil elements that made me jizz my pants I'll have their heads.
Quote from: Necronomicon II on Jun 03, 2023, 01:09:14 AMKinda hope perfect organism stop trickling tidbits of info now because I swear to god if they spoil elements that made me jizz my pants I'll have their heads.
The more words that come out of your mouth, the more intrigued I become by this whole thing...
(https://i.imgur.com/P8UalEH.jpg)
Fede's "ya'll ain't ready" stare. 😁
shaw back as a zombie resurrected by Engineer "science". CONFIRMED!
Daniels back as a mutant-queen. CONFIRMED!1
Far more rad than all of that. :-X
Quote from: Necronomicon II on Jun 03, 2023, 01:29:09 AMFar more rad than all of that. :-X
(https://images-wixmp-ed30a86b8c4ca887773594c2.wixmp.com/f/454df05a-c590-4bd7-b3a0-734b0f26c6ac/d5lonet-2cb6c8e0-5611-4319-a593-d8c7651d4f41.gif?token=eyJ0eXAiOiJKV1QiLCJhbGciOiJIUzI1NiJ9.eyJzdWIiOiJ1cm46YXBwOjdlMGQxODg5ODIyNjQzNzNhNWYwZDQxNWVhMGQyNmUwIiwiaXNzIjoidXJuOmFwcDo3ZTBkMTg4OTgyMjY0MzczYTVmMGQ0MTVlYTBkMjZlMCIsIm9iaiI6W1t7InBhdGgiOiJcL2ZcLzQ1NGRmMDVhLWM1OTAtNGJkNy1iM2EwLTczNGIwZjI2YzZhY1wvZDVsb25ldC0yY2I2YzhlMC01NjExLTQzMTktYTU5My1kOGM3NjUxZDRmNDEuZ2lmIn1dXSwiYXVkIjpbInVybjpzZXJ2aWNlOmZpbGUuZG93bmxvYWQiXX0.VZ5uz64xn2YCcZjMQ_QHm94ole0mY-wk3wvZ4WWKorU)
Quote from: Necronomicon II on Jun 03, 2023, 01:29:09 AMFar more rad than all of that. :-X
ALIEN KAIJU CONFIRMED1!
Heard it here first, folks..
Quote from: Necronomicon II on Jun 03, 2023, 01:29:09 AMFar more rad than all of that. :-X
But none of those are rad.
Lol, edit: what Fede has in store is actually rad then. 😜
a veritable XENOZILLA is in store for us.
Quote from: Necronomicon II on Jun 03, 2023, 02:04:26 AMLol, edit: what Fede has in store is actually rad then. 😜
This worries me.
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it's gonna be David in the Alien queen power suit.
It's going to be some bullshit new monster.
Quote from: skhellter on Jun 03, 2023, 02:23:09 AMit's gonna be David in the Alien queen power suit.
David will be the one wielding the two swords in the show, too.
lmao if it's just a Amanda ripley cameo
As a 60 year old woman in a cancer ward.
Not that I necessarily agree or disagree here, but I will remind you all, that Necro's very into, the whole David's juicy biomechanical phallus thing.
(https://i.imgur.com/Z61aFOP.jpg)
Quote from: BlueMarsalis79 on Jun 03, 2023, 02:54:50 AMNot that I necessarily agree or disagree here, but I will remind you all, that Necro's very into, the whole David's juicy biomechanical phallus thing.
how juicy are we talking here..
Quote from: BlueMarsalis79 on Jun 03, 2023, 02:54:50 AMNot that I necessarily agree or disagree here, but I will remind you all, that Necro's very into, the whole David's juicy biomechanical phallus thing.
😂 Only because it riles up certain quarters. Mr. H doesn't like the fingering, he mentions it every chance he gets, curious. 🤔
Hey if it shakes up preconceptions I am going to be somewhat entertained on that basis alone, I was worried this was going to be technically competent but unremarkable, I do not have that worry anymore now.
After Evil Dead peeps should already know Fede has a sick mind. 😁
Quote from: SiL on Jun 03, 2023, 02:27:47 AMIt's going to be some bullshit new monster.
Some bullshit new try hard monster *
I'll say it before but, the alien monster can be made pretty terrifying and unique. Just takes some fresh perspective.
I posted this in a diff thread before, but Walt Simon's mental interpretation of what he saw will always be great to me:
(https://static.wikia.nocookie.net/avp/images/9/91/HMPATSopening.jpg)
The imaginative use of Giger assets and a unique interpretation will usually always trump try harder stuff.
I'm going to take this opportunity to remind everyone of that tweet from Fede where he's holding up a Runner head and asking which one it is, because he likes it more than the others he saw during that visit and wanted more reference material or something.
I think it's a good indication of the direction Dane (and whoever else) were told to go.
That doesn't mean there's not Some BullshitTM on the way though.
It doesn't mean there is either.
I think any bullshit (for a certain value of "bullshit") is more likely to be narrative links to oldmate Dave (hopefully sublte, but maybe not) and some weirdness there than entirely new critters. Reworked but very familiar Aliens feels more likely IMO.
Quote from: [cancerblack] on Jun 03, 2023, 08:42:56 PMI'm going to take this opportunity to remind everyone of that tweet from Fede where he's holding up a Runner head and asking which one it is, because he likes it more than the others he saw during that visit and wanted more reference material or something.
I think it's a good indication of the direction Dane (and whoever else) were told to go.
That just felt like Fede doing a little online quiz to his followers. I wouldn't read much into it.
I am very down with it being the right combo of fleshy and biomechanoid.
(https://i.etsystatic.com/20178647/r/il/7552fb/3649909893/il_794xN.3649909893_mra2.jpg)
i love the runner
but also
nah
bring it back to full biomech, please. it is time.
As far as I'm aware there's no bullshit but then again one man's bullshit can be another man's juicy juicy biomech dildo. 🤤🤤
Quote from: skhellter on Jun 03, 2023, 11:11:44 PMQuote from: [cancerblack] on Jun 03, 2023, 08:42:56 PMI'm going to take this opportunity to remind everyone of that tweet from Fede where he's holding up a Runner head and asking which one it is, because he likes it more than the others he saw during that visit and wanted more reference material or something.
I think it's a good indication of the direction Dane (and whoever else) were told to go.
That just felt like Fede doing a little online quiz to his followers. I wouldn't read much into it.
Been a while since I saw the post, but at the time I definitely got the vibe he was saying he liked that version the best.
Here's the post, Alien Day 2022.
https://twitter.com/fedalvar/status/1519046795195650048
From how it reads to me, I honestly can't tell if he's posing the question as trivia for the fans, or if he genuinely didn't know.
Quote from: Necronomicon II on Jun 04, 2023, 12:06:41 AMAs far as I'm aware there's no bullshit but then again one man's bullshit can be another man's juicy juicy biomech dildo. 🤤🤤
The trick is to hide the penis and have the audience realise what they're looking at slowly, not just put a penis in front of them and say hey lookie here.
I know that was very Giger to do the latter, but the movies are the former.
😂 Me thinks a land filled to the brim with shafts won't tickle any studio's fancy, as much as I'd love to see that. The trick, my sweet Sil, is making Mr. H squirm at the homo erotica.
But that's easy.
That's the most adorable alien I've seen. A real good boy.
https://twitter.com/Alien_Theory/status/1666532673878196231
This is behind a Patreon paywall currently, so I haven't listened to it yet, but it seems like it's going to go public at some point soon. I wonder if there are going to be any new details in here, since it's a Romulus-themed podcast episode and Perfect Organism are the ones that have been trickling some inside info out for the project on social media over the last few weeks.
Quote from: Nightmare Asylum on Jun 07, 2023, 08:10:40 PMhttps://twitter.com/Alien_Theory/status/1666532673878196231
This is behind a Patreon paywall currently, so I haven't listened to it yet, but it seems like it's going to go public at some point soon. I wonder if there are going to be any new details in here, since it's a Romulus-themed podcast episode and Perfect Organism are the ones that have been trickling some inside info out for the project on social media over the last few weeks.
It's not available behind the paywall either, they're releasing it
next week. :3
There it is.
https://twitter.com/podcast_po/status/1670825299515428866?s=46&t=_UkEryu2c2UmLOQcQ5K4SA
BWAHAHAHA LOL
Hyped on all three counts here. Gillis (through ADI) is coming off of some really killer work on Prey, and Weta and Legacy are some of the best in the business as well. And they all have art from Dane Hallett at their disposal that they're working off of, as well!
My one hope/concern, on Weta's end, is that assets aren't shared between Romulus and Hawley's series. I'd love for each project to get to design their own Aliens from scratch.
So yeah, that's what we'd been teasing. Pretty damn exciting, eh??!!
You know me, I'm always glad to see ADI (whoops, sorry, studioGillis) guys involved
Other two seem promising as well
It's a collaborative project, but Legacy is the main house on the project. It's quite beautiful what they made.
Quote from: Mike's Monsters on Jun 19, 2023, 05:10:21 PMIt's a collaborative project, but Legacy is the main house on the project. It's quite beautiful what they made.
Very cool. Cannot wait to see the work of everyone involved!
Quote from: Mike's Monsters on Jun 19, 2023, 05:10:21 PMIt's a collaborative project, but Legacy is the main house on the project. It's quite beautiful what they made.
Take it you've seen BTS of the Alien costume for this project etc.?
Quote from: hamilton_milo on Jun 19, 2023, 05:52:25 PMQuote from: Mike's Monsters on Jun 19, 2023, 05:10:21 PMIt's a collaborative project, but Legacy is the main house on the project. It's quite beautiful what they made.
Take it you've seen BTS of the Alien costume for this project etc.?
I saw the thing with my own eyes. I visited Legacy last year.
You lucky SOB
Pretty crazy, thats a lot of talent working on this thing.
Is Romulus the actual name or a placeholder?
Quote from: City Hunter Yautja on Jun 19, 2023, 07:02:47 PMIs Romulus the actual name or a placeholder?
By all accounts it seems to be a working title that is being used in an official capacity internally, though there's no guarantee that the movie actually releases with that title.
Quote from: Nightmare Asylum on Jun 19, 2023, 07:04:24 PMQuote from: City Hunter Yautja on Jun 19, 2023, 07:02:47 PMIs Romulus the actual name or a placeholder?
By all accounts ir seems to be a working title that is being used in an official capacity internally, though there's no guarantee that the movie actually releases with that title.
I appreciate your answer. It would be intriguing if it becomes the title, invoking Romulus and Remus, the founders of Rome Legend. Makes me think of how there has been a theme of building Rome in the Alien franchise, the idea that Engineer tech and Xenomorphs can help us rebuild The Mother of Civilization.
Quote from: Nightmare Asylum on Jun 19, 2023, 07:04:24 PMQuote from: City Hunter Yautja on Jun 19, 2023, 07:02:47 PMIs Romulus the actual name or a placeholder?
By all accounts it seems to be a working title that is being used in an official capacity internally, though there's no guarantee that the movie actually releases with that title.
Yeah, it's 100% a working title at least.
Damn.
It's crazy to see that even fans were given the chance to witness the practical effetcs for the new movie.
What an experience that must have been.
Personally, i prefer when CGI enhances practical effects, since both have their own limitations and cons when used on their own.
Ridley Scott's Alien movie is one of my favorite movies of all time, but even i can admit that the rubber suit hasn't aged well in its final scene.
I don't want my immersion to break and think of the Xenomorph as a man in a suit, but then again full CGI will probably look awful as well.
Alien Covenant had some scenes with perfect CGI/pratical effetcs, such as the shower headbite (although it was quickly followed by a horrible shot of the Xeno getting wet by the shower water), the scene where it is trying to headbutt Danny McBride's glass or when Daniels traps it inside the terraforming vehicle.
I also heard that the Xenomorph for Romulus was inspired by the Big Chap and Stompy (my favorite design) from Isolation.
They both have biomechanical features, but Stompy's legs are more alien-like, which would make it harder to translate into a suit.
I guess what i mean is that i am happy with the team behind the practical effects, but i still wish that there is some sort of CGI enhancement involved in order to make the Xeno's movements seem more agile and alien-like, instead of it simply being a man in a suit (which has a lot of mobility limitations).
Quote from: PortugueseXeno on Jun 19, 2023, 08:22:03 PMDamn.
It's crazy to see that even fans were given the chance to witness the practical effetcs for the new movie.
What an experience that must have been.
Personally, i prefer when CGI enhances practical effects, since both have their own limitations and cons when used on their own.
Ridley Scott's Alien movie is one of my favorite movies of all time, but even i can admit that the rubber suit hasn't aged well in its final scene.
I don't want my immersion to break and think of the Xenomorph as a man in a suit, but then again full CGI will probably look awful as well.
Alien Covenant had some scenes with perfect CGI/pratical effetcs, such as the shower headbite (although it was quickly followed by a horrible shot of the Xeno getting wet by the shower water), the scene where it is trying to headbutt Danny McBride's glass or when Daniels traps it inside the terraforming vehicle.
I also heard that the Xenomorph for Romulus was inspired by the Big Chap and Stompy (my favorite design) from Isolation.
They both have biomechanical features, but Stompy's legs are more alien-like, which would make it harder to translate into a suit.
I guess what i mean is that i am happy with the team behind the practical effects, but i still wish that there is some sort of CGI enhancement involved in order to make the Xeno's movements seem more agile and alien-like, instead of it simply being a man in a suit (which has a lot of mobility limitations).
Fede Alvarez isn't a fan of using CGI. So they are going to go for as practical as possible. Not sure I can say yet exactly how they are executing the suit/creature work. But I won't be surprised at all if we see CGI enhancements like we did with Prey, but hopefully stronger CGI than that film.
We gotta feel pretty good with this collaboration here!
Very exciting stuff to get all 3 of these companies working on this Alien film & Fede Alvarez seems like a perfect fit! 8)
I'm feeling very good about it all. I'll put it this way, I got extremely emotional when I saw the beast. Got all choked up looking at it. They've done a very good job and are hitting a lot of what fans have been asking for for a very, very long time.
Just ya'll wait for what else is in store. Get excited peeps.
All of your teasing is tearing me apart, hahahah
I don't know if i envy or if i hate you haha
But if some of you guys got emotional when seeing the pratical effect, well, then that tells me that this will be the closest to the Giger's designs since the big chap.
I would love to see the return of big chap. What an absolute treat that would be.
I kinda wish people would shut up with the hype comments until we're all able to see something. Letting the imagination run wild is just asking for people to be disappointed when they see the reality.
Let the stuff speak for itself when it's out.
Yeah soz to be fair everything can still go to hell lol Resurrection sure looked great but we all know how that turned out. I'm hoping for the best.
I only get hyped when i see designs i love... on a good story.
If peeps were hyping up the script as much as the effects ...
Yeah, at the end of the day, good pratical effects won't make a good story or not.
But people seem to be excited about Fede's pitch/premise too, although they can't really discuss because of spoilers and possibly NDAs.
The movie will also get a theatrical release (after what we thought would go straight to streaming), so the studio seems to have some sort of confidence in it.
As long as Fede's movie manages to be a solid horror movie (in a scifi setting) with interesting and believable character/dynamics, while not treating the Xeno as a generic monster, then i am good.
I already have faith in the production aspects of the movie, such as cinematography, soundtrack, etc, so all i need is a plot that feels deserving of Fede's talents as a horror director.
Quote from: Mike's Monsters on Jun 19, 2023, 06:09:17 PMQuote from: hamilton_milo on Jun 19, 2023, 05:52:25 PMQuote from: Mike's Monsters on Jun 19, 2023, 05:10:21 PMIt's a collaborative project, but Legacy is the main house on the project. It's quite beautiful what they made.
Take it you've seen BTS of the Alien costume for this project etc.?
I saw the thing with my own eyes. I visited Legacy last year.
Very cool! So now the news is out are you allowed to say what Alec Gillis' involvement is if Legacy are responsible for big chap?
I wouldn't count on that. 🤐
And yeah I only know the premise and a couple of other things, nothing more. The proof will be in the pudding in the end.
Btw, just out of curiosity.
There seems to be a lot of people here that have some sort of insider knowledge, which has lead to the reveals of the movie being set between Alien/Aliens, the xeno design being similar to the Big Chap/Stompy and now the team behind the practical effetcs.
my question is, do you people have more inside info, on standby, waiting to be revealed (as soon as the people behind the production give you permission) or do you simply choose when you can reveal these details on your time and terms in order to give the fandom some sort of feedback/activity every now and then?
Quote from: Necronomicon II on Jun 20, 2023, 10:22:45 AMThe proof will be in the pudding in the end.
Alien: Pudding ?
You know, Burke, I don't know which species is worse. You don't see them f**king each other over for a goddamn pudding.
Quote from: Necronomicon II on Jun 20, 2023, 10:22:45 AMI wouldn't count on that. 🤐
And yeah I only know the premise and a couple of other things, nothing more. The proof will be in the pudding in the end.
I think I can relax now in all honesty. I'm happy to hear Legacy have had a crack at the Alien. Even though the possibility of this was probably 3%, I was torturing myself a little bit thinking as Gillis is involved, "what if they recycle the Resurrection moulds and use them again?" :laugh:
I was disappointed to hear Odd aren't coming back, but I'm hugely relieved by comments by those who are in the know in the past 24 hours. Sounds like some cool shit is in store.
I'm not allowed to say who did how much, or really even describe what I saw. NDA big time over here. Technically I shouldn't even say I saw the thing, but with the news out there it's hard to keep quiet. In all honesty, I don't think this news should be out yet. This case is a fansite getting the scoop and wanting those first clicks. A lot of us have known for a while and have kept it under wraps, and some of us know even more too. All info will come out in due time.
Any official images been released yet?
Quote from: Mala'kak on Jun 20, 2023, 03:14:27 PMAny official images been released yet?
Only this one:
https://twitter.com/alienanthology/status/1651275590509510660?s=46&t=_UkEryu2c2UmLOQcQ5K4SA
https://twitter.com/Podcast_PO/status/1671575817711919104
Quote from: Nightmare Asylum on Jun 21, 2023, 05:54:44 PMhttps://twitter.com/Podcast_PO/status/1671575817711919104
(https://64.media.tumblr.com/b24ebb1c8bac576f619cff503045bfec/85114dc28f04f473-73/s540x810/c03cd58ccd9161f481db5cb1c42ff8fa59d836b6.gif)
They are actually going with that title then, okie dokie...
I guess now we know that the next one will be called Remus
Quote from: Stitch on Jun 21, 2023, 06:20:40 PMI guess now we know that the next one will be called Remus
Not if Romulus has already killed him...
https://twitter.com/drewmcweeny/status/1671634222950514688?s=61&t=rv05ze1KDrOvRX51VQ2elA
Quote from: Serpico Jones on Jun 21, 2023, 10:40:31 PMhttps://twitter.com/drewmcweeny/status/1671634222950514688?s=61&t=rv05ze1KDrOvRX51VQ2elA
Perfect Organism Podcast broke (and members in the know here on AVPG confirmed) that it is set in between
Alien and
Aliens.
I wanted them to use MST3Ks original idea: Just call it 'Allen' and the tone changes completely.
Quote from: caffeine4671 on Jun 21, 2023, 10:51:57 PMI wanted them to use MST3Ks original idea: Just call it 'Allen' and the tone changes completely.
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Quote from: Nightmare Asylum on Jun 21, 2023, 06:51:35 PMQuote from: Stitch on Jun 21, 2023, 06:20:40 PMI guess now we know that the next one will be called Remus
Not if Romulus has already killed him...
Ah, but you're missing the trick, there. Remus is a
prequel.
(https://showlyrics.net/wp-content/uploads/2022/02/1645681287_525_Raised-By-Wolves-Season-2-Episode-5-RecapEnding-Explained-Is.jpeg)
I'm still gutted that got cancelled. :( It was so fascinating!
Interesting that they're sticking with Romulus, I can confirm that Renaissance was also an early working title. Make of that what you will.
Renassaince?
I can see a spaceship or a station being called Romulus and Renassaince.
I always loved when sci-fi movies named themselves after the main ship of the story.
It just sounds cool.
Quote from: Necronomicon II on Jun 22, 2023, 02:09:44 PMInteresting that they're sticking with Romulus, I can confirm that Renaissance was also an early working title. Make of that what you will.
Huh... this is
very intetesting. Different eras of course, but both working titles do evoke a lot of feelings about ancient Rome and its eventual turn to modernity (
Romulus on one end as the mythic origin, and "Renaissance" on the other as art and science are moving into the future), and in the context of the
Alien mythos, evoke a lot of shared overlapping feelings with material that the prequel films were delving into...
Like the Engineers and humanity before him, David is something of a Da Vinci-esque Renaissance Man of his own making in
Covenant, right down to his style of art (and one of his hands is sticking around on this new film in the form of Hallett).
I'm not really expecting to see David or any Engineers in the flesh here, but the more we keep hearing about this, and given this alternate working title, I do very much expect to see the prequels being used as something of a building block for this one.
Honestly, I think they just ran out of title ideas. Romulus was probably the only thing left to go for, mythic name-wise.
Not sure what else they could or would call it....'Human', maybe? :p Kinda like Prey.
Quote from: Nightmare Asylum on Jun 22, 2023, 02:19:20 PMLike the Engineers and humanity before him, David is something of a Da Vinci-esque Renaissance Man of his own making in Covenant, right down to his style of art
Michelangelo-esque as well.
(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/e/ec/%27David%27_by_Michelangelo_Fir_JBU005_denoised.jpg/1024px-%27David%27_by_Michelangelo_Fir_JBU005_denoised.jpg)
Quote from: The Eighth Passenger on Jun 22, 2023, 02:54:02 PMQuote from: Nightmare Asylum on Jun 22, 2023, 02:19:20 PMLike the Engineers and humanity before him, David is something of a Da Vinci-esque Renaissance Man of his own making in Covenant, right down to his style of art
Michelangelo-esque as well.
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/e/ec/%27David%27_by_Michelangelo_Fir_JBU005_denoised.jpg/1024px-%27David%27_by_Michelangelo_Fir_JBU005_denoised.jpg
"The tea, David."
https://twitter.com/Podcast_PO/status/1671925376451489793
Quote from: Necronomicon II on Jun 22, 2023, 02:09:44 PMInteresting that they're sticking with Romulus, I can confirm that Renaissance was also an early working title. Make of that what you will.
Hmmm, potentially also could be interpreted as nod to a soft 'reboot', maybe...
Actually..Renaissance kinda makes sense. Looking at the transitional-style computers and equipment we've seen.
The suspense is killing me! If this is said to join the prequel series, and with all the heavy-hitters effects wise, makes me wonder if this is going to be some "off the wall" amalgamation of Alien: Isolation with some of the darker elements of Prometheus.
Quote from: Mike's Monsters on Jun 20, 2023, 02:33:50 AMI'm feeling very good about it all. I'll put it this way, I got extremely emotional when I saw the beast. Got all choked up looking at it. They've done a very good job and are hitting a lot of what fans have been asking for for a very, very long time.
I've always appreciated how every entry gives us new creatures and variations on the design. I just hope we aren't getting Big Chap again and nothing more.
My bet, fully translucent.
Well that could be something interesting to see on screen...
Yeah, that'd be really cool. It'd be interesting to actually see that earlier attempt brought to life in something new.
Quote from: Nukiemorph on Jun 22, 2023, 09:47:32 PMQuote from: Mike's Monsters on Jun 20, 2023, 02:33:50 AMI'm feeling very good about it all. I'll put it this way, I got extremely emotional when I saw the beast. Got all choked up looking at it. They've done a very good job and are hitting a lot of what fans have been asking for for a very, very long time.
I've always appreciated how every entry gives us new creatures and variations on the design. I just hope we aren't getting Big Chap again and nothing more.
After 45 years Big Chap Again would be something new.
Didn't Spaihts' Alien: Engineers script feature this translucent, blob-like progenitor that slipped through vents and dripped out of them? Unless I'm misremembering... I have it on file but it's been a while since I've looked at it lol
Was that the one with the creature dislocating its limbs to fit through some bars, then snapping them back in and continuing its pursuit?
Ye something to that effect, I'm sure it oozes out of a vent too, was legit nightmare fuel.
Quote from: [cancerblack] on Jun 23, 2023, 07:33:49 AMWas that the one with the creature dislocating its limbs to fit through some bars, then snapping them back in and continuing its pursuit?
That's David Twohy's
Alien 3.
Yeah that sounds more like Twohy's script, the creature I'm thinking of was like...half blob/early progenitor.
Here we are from Spaihts' Engineers script:
(https://i.imgur.com/H3ukzxq.png)
(https://i.imgur.com/HzXe7RH.png)
https://twitter.com/Podcast_PO/status/1674463049774923777
I wish someone from the crew could just release some post/photo about the wrap up, so that we could get a new tease from the set.
About 14-16 Weeks. That's normal-ish for an alien movie, right?
Alien was 14 weeks, I think Aliens was 15.
14-16 weeks is pretty much average for a movie. You can have much shorter and much longer, but a typical studio film looks at around that ballpark.
That seems about right.
For some comparison for other sci-fi movies that I've worked on:
Terminator Salvation was 77 Shooting Days, as well as Independence Day Resurgence.
Quote from: Predalien39 on Jun 29, 2023, 11:29:39 PMThat seems about right.
For some comparison for other sci-fi movies that I've worked on:
Terminator Salvation was 77 Shooting Days, as well as Independence Day Resurgence.
If you don't mind me asking, what department were you in on these films? Always curious to hear from some folks on productions like these!
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If you don't mind me asking, what department were you in on these films? Always curious to hear from some folks on productions like these!
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On those productions, I was just in the production office.
https://twitter.com/Podcast_PO/status/1685805130841804800
Looks like a render to me, rather than a set photo.
What is that white void (censorship?)
Is that suposed to be a person/actor?
It looks like someone is holding an astronaut helmet.
Looks like they're developing a 3D background for character posters?
Quote from: Corporal Hicks on Jul 31, 2023, 08:18:47 AMLooks like a render to me, rather than a set photo.
I think it's a real photo, notice the imperfections along ceiling. Looks like the person in the photo was edited out for obvious reasons. You can still see some of the person's outlines around the blanked-out area.
Heavy jpeg compression though, so not 100% certain.
Anyone save the image? It looks like it's been removed, and I unfortunately wasn't at my computer and able to save it earlier.
Still, very excited to see what looked to be a space helmet in that blanked-out portion of the image. 8)
Curious that they removed it. Makes me wonder if they were asked to, or if it was confirmed to be fake.
Quote from: The Eighth Passenger on Jul 31, 2023, 04:24:12 PMQuote from: Corporal Hicks on Jul 31, 2023, 08:18:47 AMLooks like a render to me, rather than a set photo.
I think it's a real photo, notice the imperfections along ceiling.
I made the same observation.
It was unrelated to Alien.
In case it wasn't clear this is completely unrelated to the other films..
QuoteALIEN(S)
Having made his name in genre cinema with 1979's Alien, Scott has kept the franchise close to his heart. With 2012's origin story Prometheus, he "wanted to reinvent the wheel, and to see how it all came about. Then I did Alien Covenant, trying to push it in another direction." Now, there's a new Alien film, which Fede álvarez has just shot, and a TV series set on Earth, that Fargo and Legion's Noah Hawley is spearheading. Scott is a producer on both, although neither continue the Prometheus/Covenant chronology, he says: "They're all new."
For clarity's sake - that's from a recent Empire article. Thanks for sharing. :)
Quote from: Corporal Hicks on Aug 02, 2023, 01:31:44 PMIt was unrelated to Alien.
Just caught this. So that supposed set pic wasn't for
Romulus at all?
It twas not.
https://twitter.com/ScottWamplerRIP/status/1701657457993318541
Wampler is friends with Asbell (Asbell even pops up in the comments of this Tweet). We already knew for a long time that this poster (featuring the Fortnite Alien :laugh:) was fake, but it seems like "Romulus" might not stick as an official release title (though we do, of course, know it was used officially as a working title during production).
Quote from: Nightmare Asylum on Sep 12, 2023, 11:00:52 PMhttps://twitter.com/ScottWamplerRIP/status/1701657457993318541
Wampler is friends with Asbell (Asbell even pops up in the comments of this Tweet). We already knew for a long time that this poster (featuring the Fortnite Alien :laugh:) was fake, but it seems like "Romulus" might not stick as an official release title (though we do, of course, know it was used officially as a working title during production).
Romulus was definitely the working title and I had been told by some involved that the name wasn't locked.
I was gifted a sticker from the practical effects crew that clearly says "ALIEN: ROMULUS" with a xenomorph graphic that was given to the effects team. The whole thing is designed like a shoulder patch. Wish I could show y'all. But I'd get in big trouble.
Won't be surprised if it sticks with that name, but won't be surprised if we get something else or it's just called ALIEN. (Id prefer it not to be ALIEN)
Just to be a contrarian, I'll put my money on "Alien: Remus."
I do hope we get a : subtitle. I already fear the show will just be called Alien. :laugh:
I wonder if theatrical plans will be revised again. With this ongoing strike it must suddenly be looking like this could be a tentpole release next summer??
Quote from: Corporal Hicks on Sep 15, 2023, 08:53:27 AMI do hope we get a : subtitle. I already fear the show will just be called Alien. :laugh:
It's going to seriously f*ck up the "What's your favourite Alien movie?" thread's statistics.
Prolly more likely to be called "The Alien" though.
Or since it's a Disney movie, more appropriately, "Alien$".
The Fargo show was just.... Fargo.
Oh God The more I hear about this TV show it gets worse and worse
Quote from: skhellter on Sep 15, 2023, 09:26:24 AMThe Fargo show was just.... Fargo.
Wish we were getting Wrench and Numbers instead of ninjas.
My problem is that most people probably associate romulus with Star Trek.
There have been many jokes about it...
It makes me think about the Roman Empire, but apparently that would happen anyway.
https://twitter.com/TODAYshow/status/1702660363722875061
Quote from: The Eighth Passenger on Sep 15, 2023, 09:22:22 AMQuote from: Corporal Hicks on Sep 15, 2023, 08:53:27 AMI do hope we get a : subtitle. I already fear the show will just be called Alien. :laugh:
It's going to seriously f*ck up the "What's your favourite Alien movie?" thread's statistics.
Prolly more likely to be called "The Alien" though.
Or since it's a Disney movie, more appropriately, "Alien$".
Jim Cameron already did the dollar sign thing during his pitch for
Aliens.
I suspect he may have heard that story once or twice before.
That's not quite the story. It was when he was pitching the title, not the movie.
https://www.avpgalaxy.net/2021/12/29/james-cameron-talks-alien-myth-and-theres-more-to-it/
Quote from: Corporal Hicks on Sep 20, 2023, 07:58:56 AMThat's not quite the story. It was when he was pitching the title, not the movie.
https://www.avpgalaxy.net/2021/12/29/james-cameron-talks-alien-myth-and-theres-more-to-it/
Yeah, well, you know what I mean.
In a more recent interview with Empire Magazine while promoting Avatar 2, he also talks a bit about it. But it sounds like he was pitching the actual movie here?
QuoteI had lunch with a bigshot producer when I was about to start Aliens who said, "This is a no-win for you. If your movie's good, Ridley will get the credit. If it's bad, it's all you. It's a career ender." I said, "Yeah, buuuuuut... I like it." I was maybe a dumbass fanboy, but I could see it so clearly in my head that I just had to go make it. And yes, it's true. I was in a meeting with the studio head and the executive producers, and I turned my script over and on the blank side of the last page I wrote ALIEN. Then I drew an S on the end. Then I drew two vertical lines through the S and held it up to show them. Maybe it was just Pavlovian conditioning when they saw the $ sign connected closely to the word 'Alien'. Or maybe it was the confidence I projected. But they said yes.
https://www.empireonline.com/movies/features/an-audience-with-the-king-james-cameron-interviewed-by-hollywoods-finest/
"I turned my script over"
He'd already gotten the job, he'd already written that first 60 pages (or complete first draft). Remember, he never pitched Aliens. It was suggested to him during a largely unsuccessful meeting to find something to work on.
Quote from: Slutty Badger on Sep 20, 2023, 08:10:46 AMQuote from: Corporal Hicks on Sep 20, 2023, 07:58:56 AMThat's not quite the story. It was when he was pitching the title, not the movie.
https://www.avpgalaxy.net/2021/12/29/james-cameron-talks-alien-myth-and-theres-more-to-it/
Yeah, well, you know what I mean.
Sorry, I just had to be the "actually" guy there. My eye twitches a bit when it comes to misconceptions.
Quote from: Corporal Hicks on Sep 20, 2023, 08:13:10 AM"I turned my script over"
He'd already gotten the job, he'd already written that first 60 pages (or complete first draft). Remember, he never pitched Aliens. It was suggested to him during a largely unsuccessful meeting to find something to work on.
Thought he meant the treatment. Why are they still trying to warn him about failing though?
The context of the quote seems to be someone else (not Brandywine, not Fox) telling him it's a bad idea because the question was two part. "Was there any trepidation about working on Aliens?" Then, he talks about the Aliens$ thing because the same question asked him if there was any truth to it.
Did you have any trepidation taking on the sequel to Alien? And is the story of your pitch meeting for Aliens true, where you wrote "Alien" on a whiteboard, added an "s" and then turned the "s" into a dollar sign?
Writing Alien$ on the pitch and subsequently scoring the job sounds better. Reconfirms the Hollywood executive stereotype. :P
Reminds of the time Ridley was asked whether Walter and David were a reference to Walter Hill and David Giler who originally made Ash an android.
The first time he was asked, a clearly suprised Scott denied it. The second time he just went along with it and confirmed it. ;D
When did you change your name to Local Trouble? :'(
For context, the David/Walter thing happened on video but I never saved the specific interview and I've been unable to find it since and it pisses me off that I can't.
Quote from: Corporal Hicks on Sep 20, 2023, 08:28:41 AMFor context, the David/Walter thing happened on video but I never saved the specific interview and I've been unable to find it since and it pisses me off that I can't.
Yeah, it was a video interview. Tried to find it myself again a while back but there are literally scores of Alien Covenant interviews on the web, no way I'm sitting through all that!
QuoteWhen did you change your name to Local Trouble? :'(
He asked me to fill in for him this morning.
Quote from: The Eighth Passenger on Sep 20, 2023, 08:47:08 AMYeah, it was a video interview. Tried to find it myself again a while back but there are literally scores of Alien Covenant interviews on the web, no way I'm sitting through all that!
I went looking like the week after and it was already buried in all the press junket interviews.
Quote from: Local Trouble on Sep 18, 2023, 05:52:04 PMIt makes me think about the Roman Empire, but apparently that would happen anyway.
https://twitter.com/TODAYshow/status/1702660363722875061
Hopefully a journalist will ask Ridley how often he thinks of the Roman Empire during his coming world, "F*ck You" press tour for Napoleon. ;D
When could we expect a teaser trailer?
Quote from: Wweyland on Sep 22, 2023, 12:55:30 PMWhen could we expect a teaser trailer?
My guess would be Alien Day 2024
Quote from: Scott Conover on Sep 24, 2023, 07:03:46 AMQuote from: Wweyland on Sep 22, 2023, 12:55:30 PMWhen could we expect a teaser trailer?
My guess would be Alien Day 2024
Well, that
was supposed to be the release date for the Film Franchise Encyclopedia, so 20th Century Sandwich are gonna need something to replace it.
Quote from: Slutty Badger on Sep 24, 2023, 08:14:52 AMQuote from: Scott Conover on Sep 24, 2023, 07:03:46 AMQuote from: Wweyland on Sep 22, 2023, 12:55:30 PMWhen could we expect a teaser trailer?
My guess would be Alien Day 2024
Well, that was supposed to be the release date for the Film Franchise Encyclopedia, so 20th Century Sandwich are gonna need something to replace it.
Is that not still coming out then? I haven't heard anything about further delays
Quote from: Scott Conover on Sep 24, 2023, 08:43:47 AMQuote from: Slutty Badger on Sep 24, 2023, 08:14:52 AMQuote from: Scott Conover on Sep 24, 2023, 07:03:46 AMQuote from: Wweyland on Sep 22, 2023, 12:55:30 PMWhen could we expect a teaser trailer?
My guess would be Alien Day 2024
Well, that was supposed to be the release date for the Film Franchise Encyclopedia, so 20th Century Sandwich are gonna need something to replace it.
Is that not still coming out then? I haven't heard anything about further delays
It's been shoved back to next September.
Glad to see the re-emergence of the Alien Day
Quote from: Wweyland on Sep 25, 2023, 07:03:12 AMGlad to see the re-emergence of the Alien Day
Had a blast this year seeing
Aliens at the cinema. I owe it to this forum, of course!
It's been a good few years since we had a good Alien Day tbf, I'd love to see them capitalize on it again this year with some Romulus coverage. Alien Day the year Covenant came out was great.
This year has been great for Alien so far, with Dark Descent, the DBD Chapter and stuff
With Romulus coming in August of next year, it would be a fun idea to do a more widespread re-release of Alien for Alien Day next year. Get it on people's minds again.
I've only gotten to see Alien on the big screen once, for the 40th Anniversary. And I haven't seen Aliens at all...
They do it every single year over my side of the pond.
Quote from: PAS Spinelli on Sep 25, 2023, 11:23:37 AMThis year has been great for Alien so far, with Dark Descent, the DBD Chapter and stuff
There's been a whole lotta not-great stuff either, namely the novels, and both the Film Franchise Encyclopedia and Building Better Worlds being delayed.
Whether Romulus fits into the latter category or the former is yet to be decided.
Quote from: Slutty Badger on Sep 25, 2023, 12:24:53 PMQuote from: PAS Spinelli on Sep 25, 2023, 11:23:37 AMThis year has been great for Alien so far, with Dark Descent, the DBD Chapter and stuff
There's been a whole lotta not-great stuff either, namely the novels, and both the Film Franchise Encyclopedia and Building Better Worlds being delayed.
Whether Romulus fits into the latter category or the former is yet to be decided.
True, but I'd argue games are a bit more important than those since they are more mainstream, a sign that the franchise is making it's way back up
Quote from: Corporal Hicks on Sep 25, 2023, 11:43:11 AMThey do it every single year over my side of the pond.
It's rare here, and the only screening I did manage to get to was ruined by Peter Jackson deciding his renovated movie theatre should sell chips and "classy" popcorn in insanely noisy foil bags everyone was ripping open and crinkling through the entire thing.
Quote from: Corporal Hicks on Sep 25, 2023, 11:43:11 AMThey do it every single year over my side of the pond.
Yeah here down under I feel like the first two get screened at least 6 times a year. Even went to a screening of all Alien/Predator films the other month
https://twitter.com/fedalvar/status/1713325963634004205
He really chose the best, not a single thing I disapprove of, and am a bit surprised how deep he went in with the research knowing most directors (if this is not just superficial pandering), but by seeing this, it gets me even more excited!
I wonder if we'll see a Working Joe in this film?
David's Drawings? Maybe this film is gonna have more connections to Covenant than was first purported.
That and the Neomorphs are the best parts of Alien Covenant by far so I am fairly pleased to see that being an inspiration.
Can't wait to get more info on this. The little bits of info we get from time to time are only creating a better picture in my mind.
David's Drawings seems to line up nicely with Hallett being on board, and the Ron Cobb and Alien: Isolation books' flavor can definitely be felt in the Alien Day set photo.
https://twitter.com/Podcast_PO/status/1713600735735394511
I guess he makes a cameo as a dead astronaut in the film?
Definitely seems to be the case!
Looks like a damaged suit, yeah. Glazed eyes, blood runnels etc.
He needs to read the Alex White novels, also told him on Twitter.
Quote from: Wweyland on Oct 15, 2023, 08:06:13 PMHe needs to read the Alex White novels, also told him on Twitter.
Everyone needs to read the Alex White novels.
I kinda want Dark Descent to be added to any movie maker's bibliography, the lore in it is pretty cool, not just for the alien but for the universe in general
Quote from: TheBATMAN on Oct 15, 2023, 07:44:02 AMI wonder if we'll see a Working Joe in this film?
Good point. That's one of the unique characteristics of the early films of the franchise, including space truckers and grunts. In addition, they're also mostly much older.
The dialogue was also more natural, together with the set design, etc.
Quote from: ralfy on Oct 15, 2023, 11:35:10 PMQuote from: TheBATMAN on Oct 15, 2023, 07:44:02 AMI wonder if we'll see a Working Joe in this film?
Good point. That's one of the unique characteristics of the early films of the franchise, including space truckers and grunts. In addition, they're also mostly much older.
The dialogue was also more natural, together with the set design, etc.
https://avp.fandom.com/wiki/Working_Joe
Quote from: Nightmare Asylum on Oct 15, 2023, 04:50:55 PMDavid's Drawings seems to line up nicely with Hallett being on board, and the Ron Cobb and Alien: Isolation books' flavor can definitely be felt in the Alien Day set photo.
https://twitter.com/Podcast_PO/status/1713600735735394511
Can't really see much detail there, but I like the orange and love that it seems Fede is having a cameo of sorts!
Quote from: ralfy on Oct 15, 2023, 11:35:10 PMQuote from: TheBATMAN on Oct 15, 2023, 07:44:02 AMI wonder if we'll see a Working Joe in this film?
Good point. That's one of the unique characteristics of the early films of the franchise, including space truckers and grunts. In addition, they're also mostly much older.
The dialogue was also more natural, together with the set design, etc.
(https://steamuserimages-a.akamaihd.net/ugc/423691296969146875/5D646787D9FEA2E536C4E434257B79126BB73F5A/?imw=268&imh=268&ima=fit&impolicy=Letterbox&imcolor=%23000000&letterbox=true)
"Tut-tut."
Quote from: Corporal Hicks on Oct 16, 2023, 07:29:26 AMCan't really see much detail there, but I like the orange and love that it seems Fede is having a cameo of sorts!
Could this be a salvage crew hazmat suit, like the ones in the beginning of Aliens? (https://gndn.files.wordpress.com/2016/05/shot0003a.jpg)
Oooo that's a pretty valid option, too.
The leaked audition tapes
Spoiler
acknowledged a salvage operation, to boot.
Fede's recent tweet (about his Alien books and research for the movie) and him changing his instagram profile pic into a tease of a production prop from the movies makes me think that a possible teaser may very well be on the way...like soon, soon.
Quote from: Kane's other son on Oct 16, 2023, 12:46:24 PMCould this be a salvage crew hazmat suit, like the ones in the beginning of Aliens? https://gndn.files.wordpress.com/2016/05/shot0003a.jpg
See if you can find some pics of the actual prop suits where we can see the neckline better.
I think those suits were used in Outland as well.
I'm from a younger generation of Alien fans.
I watched all the Aliens movies while growing up, and then when i was 12 years old, i saw prometheus in the theaters.
Man, i still remember the day the first Alien Covenant teaser/trailer was released.
It started with a tease of the backburster scene, and then the very moody song "Nature Boy" from Aurora.
I can't wait to feel that excitement again with the Romulus trailer.
Man, even if the movie sucks, just walking into the theater and seeing the Alien title hit the screen... just thinking about it gives me chills.
Quote from: PortugueseXeno on Oct 21, 2023, 04:02:29 PMI'm from a younger generation of Alien fans.
I watched all the Aliens movies while growing up, and then when i was 12 years old, i saw prometheus in the theaters.
Man, i still remember the day the first Alien Covenant teaser/trailer was released.
It started with a tease of the backburster scene, and then the very moody song "Nature Boy" from Aurora.
I can't wait to feel that excitement again with the Romulus trailer.
Man, even if the movie sucks, just walking into the theater and seeing the Alien title hit the screen... just thinking about it gives me chills.
Kind of off-topic, but I'm curious based upon your username - are you based in Portugal? 😃 The reason I ask, is I regularly do field work in the Algarve (heading out there for a month next week) - and last year I saw a cinema close to where we were staying.. I was wondering; do you know if most movies in cinemas are dubbed in Portuguese, or are they shown in original language with Portuguese subs? (As I natively speak English, and the only other language I have any experience with is Japanese, I avoided checking out any movies whilst over there last year). If they are subbed I might go see a movie this time. 😃
Quote from: Acid_Reign161 on Oct 21, 2023, 04:19:34 PMQuote from: PortugueseXeno on Oct 21, 2023, 04:02:29 PMI'm from a younger generation of Alien fans.
I watched all the Aliens movies while growing up, and then when i was 12 years old, i saw prometheus in the theaters.
Man, i still remember the day the first Alien Covenant teaser/trailer was released.
It started with a tease of the backburster scene, and then the very moody song "Nature Boy" from Aurora.
I can't wait to feel that excitement again with the Romulus trailer.
Man, even if the movie sucks, just walking into the theater and seeing the Alien title hit the screen... just thinking about it gives me chills.
Kind of off-topic, but I'm curious based upon your username - are you based in Portugal? 😃 The reason I ask, is I regularly do field work in the Algarve (heading out there for a month next week) - and last year I saw a cinema close to where we were staying.. I was wondering; do you know if most movies in cinemas are dubbed in Portuguese, or are they shown in original language with Portuguese subs? (As I natively speak English, and the only other language I have any experience with is Japanese, I avoided checking out any movies whilst over there last year). If they are subbed I might go see a movie this time. 😃
Hi.
Yes, i am portuguese.
Most animated movies usually have a dubbed (portuguese version) besides the original one, but when it comes to live action american/english/foreign movies, it's all in the original version.
They have portuguese subtitles of course, but you can easily see an english speaking movie here, without any issue at all.
Hope you enjoy your staying here.
Quote from: PortugueseXeno on Oct 21, 2023, 04:52:16 PMQuote from: Acid_Reign161 on Oct 21, 2023, 04:19:34 PMQuote from: PortugueseXeno on Oct 21, 2023, 04:02:29 PMI'm from a younger generation of Alien fans.
I watched all the Aliens movies while growing up, and then when i was 12 years old, i saw prometheus in the theaters.
Man, i still remember the day the first Alien Covenant teaser/trailer was released.
It started with a tease of the backburster scene, and then the very moody song "Nature Boy" from Aurora.
I can't wait to feel that excitement again with the Romulus trailer.
Man, even if the movie sucks, just walking into the theater and seeing the Alien title hit the screen... just thinking about it gives me chills.
Kind of off-topic, but I'm curious based upon your username - are you based in Portugal? 😃 The reason I ask, is I regularly do field work in the Algarve (heading out there for a month next week) - and last year I saw a cinema close to where we were staying.. I was wondering; do you know if most movies in cinemas are dubbed in Portuguese, or are they shown in original language with Portuguese subs? (As I natively speak English, and the only other language I have any experience with is Japanese, I avoided checking out any movies whilst over there last year). If they are subbed I might go see a movie this time. 😃
Hi.
Yes, i am portuguese.
Most animated movies usually have a dubbed (portuguese version) besides the original one, but when it comes to live action american/english/foreign movies, it's all in the original version.
They have portuguese subtitles of course, but you can easily see an english speaking movie here, without any issue at all.
Hope you enjoy your staying here.
Thank you! I appreciate the info! 😃
If the prequels are meant to reboot the franchise (which means the earlier movies are not necessary), and this new one follows from the prequels, then it should make new fans very happy.
What are you on about this time honestly?
Quote from: BlueMarsalis79 on Oct 22, 2023, 12:14:42 AMWhat are you on about this time honestly?
😂😂😂😂 (I take it it's that moon phase where ralfy comes out of hibernation in full force across the boards to unleash his wisdom?)
Just revisited Evil Dead (2013).
I believe in you, Fede.
QuoteOh boy.. the things we shot in there... can't wait to show you.
Quote from: Nightmare Asylum on Oct 22, 2023, 02:57:02 AMJust revisited Evil Dead (2013).
I believe in you, Fede.
But I have never seen Evil Dead. Any version.
Hello, I come from Poland, Katowice, I have watched Alien since I was a teenager and I fell in love with it even more than with Predator
My passion is the 1979 film by Ridley Scott, I watch it addictively every week in my private cinema, the love for these films gave birth to another hobby: home cinema and watching these and other films in the highest possible quality, and last year I completed the project of an attic cinema in my villa in the suburbs of Katowice. I know it's a bit off topic but I wanted to share this news with you.
I wonder how Ridley got Romulus from Fede Alvarez, apparently he had already seen the movie, do you think he got it on Blu-ray disc? Either way, I'm looking forward to Alien Romulus on 4K UHD Blu-ray. Regards.
A true fan and enthusiast of home cinema, I am interested in films of the highest image and sound quality, and I collect 2D, 3D and 4K Blu-ray discs, and I also play on PS5. It took me a while to find the holy grail - I've modified a lot of AV equipment, but the system I currently have is perfectly tailored to this mini cinema room. I watch on:
JVC projector RS laser light source HDMI 2.1, 8K, HDR10+, FILMMAKER MODE
Stewart Wallscreen Delux frame screen, StudioTek100 surface, 16:9 format, size 105 inches.
Oppo UDP 203 Ultra HD Blu-ray Player
Denon AVC X8500HA AV amplifier HDMI 2.1, 13.2 Dolby Atmos, Auro 3D, DTS X.
Apple TV 4K, PS5, Polsat box and nc+, Disney +. HBO Max.
6. Columns and loudspeakers: Dali Opticon 6 MK2 fronts, 2 pieces.
They gave Opticon LCR MK2 as center, side surround and rear surround channels 7 pieces.
They gave Alteco C1 as overhead effect speakers for Auro 3D, Dolby Atmos and DTS X - 4 pieces.
SVS SB 4000 subwoofer.
CINEMA IS MY HOBBY.
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Quote from: Local Trouble on Oct 24, 2023, 11:41:22 PMQuote from: Nightmare Asylum on Oct 22, 2023, 02:57:02 AMJust revisited Evil Dead (2013).
I believe in you, Fede.
But I have never seen Evil Dead. Any version.
Outrageous.
Fede has been teasing Alien: Romulus quite a bit lately.
My heart tells me that there is a teaser coming, but my mind...
Quote from: Local Trouble on Oct 24, 2023, 11:41:22 PMQuote from: Nightmare Asylum on Oct 22, 2023, 02:57:02 AMJust revisited Evil Dead (2013).
I believe in you, Fede.
But I have never seen Evil Dead. Any version.
You're out in force today with the trolling LT 🤣
Just today?
Quote from: Local Trouble on Oct 24, 2023, 11:41:22 PMQuote from: Nightmare Asylum on Oct 22, 2023, 02:57:02 AMJust revisited Evil Dead (2013).
I believe in you, Fede.
But I have never seen Evil Dead. Any version.
Well... I've got you covered fam. 😁
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(These are from the first box of analogue releases I have of the movie (pre-cert/betamax/vhs/ex-rentals/laserdiscs) - got another box of analogue (sell-thru vhs) and then a couple of boxes of DVDs/blu-rays/steelbooks and 4kUHDs 🤣 like Alien, You can never have too many copies of 'The Evil Dead'!
Also, I started putting together a little colour-grading reference for each release, in case you have preference for such things 😁
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8) stunning!!!!
Hello, do any of you own a JVC D-ILA RS2100/3100/4100 projector?
Do you have the Alien and Predator collection on Blu-ray? Could anyone confirm the very poor image quality of Alien Resurection on Blu-ray, and actually no differences in the image of Alien 1979 in 4K UHD versus Blu-ray?
Quote from: zak098 on Oct 25, 2023, 06:28:35 PMactually no differences in the image of Alien 1979 in 4K UHD versus Blu-ray?
Can't speak to that specific projector, but there's a massive difference between the Blu-ray and UHD
Alien discs.
Quote from: zak098 on Oct 25, 2023, 06:28:35 PMHello, do any of you own a JVC D-ILA RS2100/3100/4100 projector?
Do you have the Alien and Predator collection on Blu-ray? Could anyone confirm the very poor image quality of Alien Resurection on Blu-ray, and actually no differences in the image of Alien 1979 in 4K UHD versus Blu-ray?
As Nightmare Asylum said; there's quite a difference between the blu-ray and the 4k UHD - you can compare screenshots here; https://caps-a-holic.com/c.php?go=1&a=0&d1=13061&d2=5205&s1=130862&s2=48559&i=13&l=0
It's worth noting that neither are theatrically accurate (if that is what you are seeking) not just to the original theatrical cut, but even to the Directors Cut - a lot of blue was introduced to the blu-ray release (I saw the Directors Cut in cinema on release day and it still had quite muted/grey exterior shots of the Nostromo) - Also worth noting that the Dtheatre /DVHS release of Alien directors cut had less blue tones than the blu-ray (noticeable during the Space Jockey scene)
As for Alien Resurrection; there's nothing wrong with the blu-ray quality (I actually love that it retains its film look and isn't ultra-processed) - it has however lost much of the bold yellow tones associated with the early VHS and Laserdisc releases and seems to be going for the 'silver-retention' look of a 35mm (this is not without problems however, pink hues now dominate whites, noticeable during the strobe effect when Call is attacked by the Newborn on the Betty)
Thanks, the thing is that I have a very, very demanding projector in terms of the source material, so maybe the UHD BD version was treated equally harshly compared to the BD version, in the sense that I can see the differences, but they are not a huge quality difference, and again I have never seen them. I would buy 4K Blu-ray editions, regular 2K is really good.
Does anyone have the Oppo UDP 203 player? I'm lying a bit, but I also have a PS5 and the colors are exactly the same. Moreover, I can change the color temperature in the projector in the range from 5500K to 9300K. The higher the value, the more blue it adds.
And in the cinema, when you saw the director's cut of Nostromo at the premiere, what color were the shades?
https://twitter.com/JohnnyDPresents/status/1726114267613810972
Wonder what Cameron story Álvarez had to tell...
Interesting font, have we seen it before?
Brand new, as far as I'm aware.
It definitely has a retro vibe to it imo.
I swear some of the poster concepts on the home releases use the same, if not very similar, font. It's very 70s sic fi.
Quote from: SiL on Nov 24, 2023, 06:03:33 AMI swear some of the poster concepts on the home releases use the same, if not very similar, font. It's very 70s sic fi.
I immediately thought "VHS" when I saw it, but can't place it exactly.
How far off a teaser trailer do we think?
Quote from: TheBATMAN on Nov 24, 2023, 07:20:52 PMHow far off a teaser trailer do we think?
Not until some time after the New Year, I'd say.
Covenant got its first (shitty) trailer on Christmas the year before it came out, but that was a May release.
Romulus isn't until August.
It did introduce me to Aurora, that I will always deeply appreciate.
It's about 4 months on average prior to the release of the movie.
Quote from: BlueMarsalis79 on Nov 24, 2023, 09:35:56 PMIt did introduce me to Aurora, that I will always deeply appreciate.
11 years on and I still listen to Gazelle Twin off the back of a tiny sample in a Prometheus trailer that wasn't even released in my country. And occasionally some Mirel Wagner thanks to Isolation.
Thanks to
Covenant I discovered John Denver 8)
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Quote from: [cancerblack] on Nov 24, 2023, 11:21:32 PMQuote from: BlueMarsalis79 on Nov 24, 2023, 09:35:56 PMIt did introduce me to Aurora, that I will always deeply appreciate.
11 years on and I still listen to Gazelle Twin off the back of a tiny sample in a Prometheus trailer that wasn't even released in my country. And occasionally some Mirel Wagner thanks to Isolation.
You just introduced me to that one :o
Quote from: Immortan Jonesy on Nov 24, 2023, 11:47:16 PMThanks to Covenant I discovered John Denver 8)
I'm pretty sure "Take Me Home Country Roads" was just obligated to be part of every movie released in 2017.
Quote from: Nightmare Asylum on Nov 24, 2023, 11:52:24 PMQuote from: Immortan Jonesy on Nov 24, 2023, 11:47:16 PMThanks to Covenant I discovered John Denver 8)
I'm pretty sure "Take Me Home Country Roads" was just obligated to be part of every movie released in 2017.
Including
Logan Lucky, which also features Katherine Waterston!
But not in the actual western released in 2017, Logan.
Quote from: Nightmare Asylum on Nov 24, 2023, 11:52:24 PMQuote from: Immortan Jonesy on Nov 24, 2023, 11:47:16 PMThanks to Covenant I discovered John Denver 8)
I'm pretty sure "Take Me Home Country Roads" was just obligated to be part of every movie released in 2017.
2nd Kingsman movie too.
Fair enough, I didn't see any of the movies mentioned though, I mean in 2017. Actually, I usually only go to the theaters to watch sci-fi or fantasy stuff, and rarelly; dramas, comedies, romance or even horror (except Alien, but more because it's science fiction as well :laugh: ).
Edit ~ I saw Logan years after the release. :-X👉👈
Come on, Fede.
Feed us.
We need more Alien news.
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Some people here theorized that Alien: Romulus would mainly be set on a colony world in the process of being terraformed, but apparently, Romulus will most likely be a space station for our characters to board.
The Alien: Isolation vibes keep growing.
I guess this explains Cailee's comments of wirework, so incoming space walk scenes.
Interesting. PO have been accurate in their leaks that they've been dripfeeding so far, so I have no reason to not believe this one! A space setting has the potential to be a very interesting main setting.
Yeah, that set photo Alvarez posted on Alien day could very well be a space station, considering the "airlock" and "reception" areas.
Also the nod to Sevastopol station savebooth.
Weren't some of the casting scenes about salvaging a craft?
Quote from: Corporal Hicks on Dec 03, 2023, 02:09:42 PMWeren't some of the casting scenes about salvaging a craft?
Yep. Crew that either goes from ship to planet to station (or, perhaps, simply from ship to station without ever stepping foot on the planet), I'd imagine?
Quote from: Nightmare Asylum on Dec 03, 2023, 02:12:36 PMQuote from: Corporal Hicks on Dec 03, 2023, 02:09:42 PMWeren't some of the casting scenes about salvaging a craft?
Yep. Crew that either goes from ship to planet to station (or, perhaps, simply from ship to station without ever stepping foot on the planet), I'd imagine?
I wouldn't be surprised if whatever happened in the Romulus space station had something to do with Covenant.
Perfect Organism podcast also teased (a few motnhs ago) that this movie would unite the prequels with the original movies, so the crew in the Romulus station probably intercepted the Covenant and brought hell into their own station, which lead to disaster and them potentially calling for help.
The main characters of this movie are probably stationed on the planet below the Romulus station and go intercept the call for help and shit happens.
Quote from: Corporal Hicks on Dec 03, 2023, 02:09:42 PMWeren't some of the casting scenes about salvaging a craft?
Yeah, i guess so.
At first, i thought this was going to be sort of a heist movie, with a bunch of young adults from a deadend colony trying to raid a deserted Weyland-Yutani vessel in hopes of finding stuff to sell, but now i think they are probably just a rescue crew stationed on a planet near the Romulus space station, that will try to intercept whatever call for help the crew of the Romulus has sent.
If Romulus does indeed end up being the station's name, then I hope the planet's name is Remus.
Interestingly, Romulus was also the name of Rome's last emperor before it fell.
It begins and ends with Romulus.
Quote from: The Eighth Passenger on Dec 03, 2023, 03:44:18 PMInterestingly, Romulus was also the name of Rome's last emperor before it fell.
It begins and ends with Romulus.
If this movie ends up being related to Coveant (and the original franchise too) as the rumors/leaks from Perfect Organism seem to imply then that could potentially mean that David's empire could mert its end here.
Given Remus/Romulus connection to wolves and David's comments regarding his xenos being his wolves.
Quote from: PortugueseXeno on Dec 03, 2023, 05:20:41 PMQuote from: The Eighth Passenger on Dec 03, 2023, 03:44:18 PMInterestingly, Romulus was also the name of Rome's last emperor before it fell.
It begins and ends with Romulus.
If this movie ends up being related to Coveant (and the original franchise too) as the rumors/leaks from Perfect Organism seem to imply then that could potentially mean that David's empire could mean its end here.
Given Remus/Romulus connection to wolves and David's comments regarding his xenos being his wolves.
"When in Rome..."
The obvious Ancient Roman connections does make me think that Ridley's third film might somehow have been integrated into this to a degree. The prequel films do require some kind of closure, 20th/Disney can't really just leave it hanging indefinitely while haring off into other new directions.
So my guess is that Scott read Alvarez's pitch and thought it might be possible to use it as a vehicle to finish David's story.
Yes I always thought it was suspect how Scott so willingly handed the keys over considering he's been so protective of it these last 12 years. It wouldnt surprise me if Fede altered his pitch to include some prequel elements.
Finding the Covenant would be a nice bookend rather than leaving the prequels completely unfinished.
Im not expecting David to turn up though. I think it would be more interesting to just find this ghostship after 40 odd years with completely no explanation as to what became of it or how the Aliens came to be there.
Yeah, there wasn't any rumours or sightings of Michael Fassbender near the filming in Budapest.
Though it is still possible he might have a small cameo (perhaps via a recording) like Noomi Rapace had in Covenant. Don't think Noomi turned up on radar while she was filming her Covenant scenes?
His voice replacing Muthur inside the Covenant would be great.
Quote from: TheBATMAN on Dec 03, 2023, 06:41:50 PMYes I always thought it was suspect how Scott so willingly handed the keys over considering he's been so protective of it these last 12 years. It wouldnt surprise me if Fede altered his pitch to include some prequel elements.
Finding the Covenant would be a nice bookend rather than leaving the prequels completely unfinished.
Im not expecting David to turn up though. I think it would be more interesting to just find this ghostship after 40 odd years with completely no explanation as to what became of it or how the Aliens came to be there.
Even if the Covenant ship is mentioned, i seriously doubt that it would be shown, since the aesthetic and technology of that ship doesn't match the retro-cassete style that Fede is embracing.
It would be easier to mention David and the Covenant, but at the same time, not show them at all.
Might as well have the crew of the Romulus space station find the Covenant (off-screen), bring something from it to their own station and then all hell breaks loose, which would lead to our new main characters to board the Romulus in the potentially teased salvage operation.
I think it would have to be shown. If it is the Covenant, it would be a bit of a cop-out not to do so. I dont think the asthetic is too much of a problem. Any interior shots would be redressed and hopefully hived up anyway.
Quote from: PortugueseXeno on Dec 03, 2023, 08:18:02 PMQuote from: TheBATMAN on Dec 03, 2023, 06:41:50 PMYes I always thought it was suspect how Scott so willingly handed the keys over considering he's been so protective of it these last 12 years. It wouldnt surprise me if Fede altered his pitch to include some prequel elements.
Finding the Covenant would be a nice bookend rather than leaving the prequels completely unfinished.
Im not expecting David to turn up though. I think it would be more interesting to just find this ghostship after 40 odd years with completely no explanation as to what became of it or how the Aliens came to be there.
Even if the Covenant ship is mentioned, i seriously doubt that it would be shown, since the aesthetic and technology of that ship doesn't match the retro-cassete style that Fede is embracing.
No? A lot of the
Covenant's interior architecture greatly resembles that of the
Nostromo - gangways and ladders, gold-hued machinery and clanking chains.
Perhaps they can use the garden.
Quote from: BlueMarsalis79 on Dec 03, 2023, 08:10:39 PMHis voice replacing Muthur inside the Covenant would be great.
I kind of expect that will be what David would do. Upload his consciousness to the ship's computer. The salvagers might even bring him out with the ship's black box along with the Alien infection.
however they do it. It would be absolutely great to add a little connection to the prequels. (even if my wish as I would like to see it probably won't be realized)
if done skillfully it would satisfy everyone and even those who hate Prometheus and Covenant could overlook it if it's just a short thing and the rest of the film reunites almost all the fans.
They'll definitely have to do that if the prequels essentially reboot the franchise, and the reboot needed if they felt that many who watched the prequels had never seen or heard about the first four movies because those were made decades ago.
I wonder if ralfy is aware that the first four movies are widely available on streaming services and physical media. I wonder if he thinks the original Star Wars trilogy is obscure too.
Ralfy hasn't watched them and assumes nobody else did either.
I've seen a few Alien Romumus bootleg posters, using Aliens from Resurrection / AVPs :P👎
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Casual audiences probably couldn't care less about Giger's Alien. :'( They only remember the monster from its relatively recent films. Seriously, I always see AVP's Alien in geek articles or YouTube thumbnails.
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This image is the bane of my existence and if I had the power to purge it from the face of the internet, make no mistake, I would do it.
Sometimes it can be seen the better designed, albeit not as good as the original, Praetomorph. But it is very rare to encounter Giger's Alien as the definitive presentation of the creature to the internet.
Quote from: Immortan Jonesy on Dec 11, 2023, 07:15:29 PMSometimes it can be seen the better designed, alveid not as good as the original, Praetomorph. But it is very rare to encounter Giger's Alien as the definitive presentation of the creature to the internet.
Yeah, as a younger fan of the Alien and Predator franchises, i can confirm.
Growing up, the AvP and Ressurection Xenos were the ones that i found plastered all over the internet when it comes to presentation/introduction to the franchise.
It's sad, but it is what it is.
Quote from: Nightmare Asylum on Dec 11, 2023, 07:11:44 PMhttps://img4.hulu.com/user/v3/artwork/7130e8e2-4216-40c6-a600-4b8a252ca201?base_image_bucket_name=image_manager&base_image=9e8584d2-b3a4-4943-93ac-39dd6842ee9e&size=458x687&format=jpeg
This image is the bane of my existence and if I had the power to purge it from the face of the internet, make no mistake, I would do it.
God, I agree 150%.
It's like the papyrus or comic sans of xeno images. So annoying how overused this image is. Every time I see it used I can't help but roll my eyes and wish it was outlawed to use. Especially when it's used to substitute any xeno outside of AVP.
Quote from: Nightmare Asylum on Dec 11, 2023, 07:11:44 PMhttps://img4.hulu.com/user/v3/artwork/7130e8e2-4216-40c6-a600-4b8a252ca201?base_image_bucket_name=image_manager&base_image=9e8584d2-b3a4-4943-93ac-39dd6842ee9e&size=458x687&format=jpeg
This image is the bane of my existence and if I had the power to purge it from the face of the internet, make no mistake, I would do it.
It is a surprise that this image of a mediocre redesign of the classic xeno is this popular.
Its current memetic state must help for sure
Quote from: Nightmare Asylum on Dec 11, 2023, 07:11:44 PMhttps://img4.hulu.com/user/v3/artwork/7130e8e2-4216-40c6-a600-4b8a252ca201?base_image_bucket_name=image_manager&base_image=9e8584d2-b3a4-4943-93ac-39dd6842ee9e&size=458x687&format=jpeg
This image is the bane of my existence and if I had the power to purge it from the face of the internet, make no mistake, I would do it.
This! >:(👆
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If Fede hopefully goes back to the Big Chap design or Cameron's Alien Warriors look, many out there will probably think it's a completely new design :'(
Quote from: Neila on Dec 12, 2023, 09:11:37 AMIf Fede hopefully goes back to the Big Chap design or Cameron's Alien Warriors look, many out there will probably think it's a completely new design :'(
But we won't.
Quote from: Slutty Badger on Dec 12, 2023, 09:24:59 AMQuote from: Neila on Dec 12, 2023, 09:11:37 AMIf Fede hopefully goes back to the Big Chap design or Cameron's Alien Warriors look, many out there will probably think it's a completely new design :'(
But we won't.
Yeah, that ship has sailed a long time ago for the general audience.
But it's quite sad how the AvP and Resurrection Xenos that Giger refered to as "they look like literal shit" are the ones seen as the OG by most people.
The poop Xenos, now that is quite the frightining outlook.
Quote from: PortugueseXeno on Dec 12, 2023, 11:51:58 AMQuote from: Slutty Badger on Dec 12, 2023, 09:24:59 AMQuote from: Neila on Dec 12, 2023, 09:11:37 AMIf Fede hopefully goes back to the Big Chap design or Cameron's Alien Warriors look, many out there will probably think it's a completely new design :'(
But we won't.
Yeah, that ship has sailed a long time ago for the general audience.
But it's quite sad how the AvP and Resurrection Xenos that Giger refered to as "they look like literal shit" are the ones seen as the OG by most people.
The poop Xenos, now that is quite the frightining outlook.
We had the poop Xenos already, in
Dreamcatcher.
They were even dubbed "the Ripley".
Well, Alien Covenant's first teaser was released on the Christmas before its year of release, so any predictions as to when we will get our first teaser?
Likely early 2024 to spring. Full marketing should go into effect after Alien Day (not saying it'll start then, just that we can expect stuff around then with the film being out in 4 months at that point). I don't expect to see anything anytime soon yet.
Quote from: Mike's Monsters on Dec 15, 2023, 06:19:48 PMLikely early 2024 to spring. Full marketing should go into effect after Alien Day (not saying it'll start then, just that we can expect stuff around then with the film being out in 4 months at that point). I don't expect to see anything anytime soon yet.
Ooof, Alien Day?
Damn, i sure hope it doesn't start that late, but to be fair, it seems like most movies nowadays only start their marketing 4-5-6 months before the theatrical release.
I think what irks me the most is that we are so close (next year), but yet it feels so far, given how there is nothing to see, besides the Alien Day pic from last year.
But, to be fair, the next 2 years will have a movie and a TV series, so we just have to wait a little longer.
I do think Romulus will follow up at least tangentially on Covenant, given that every other source that could have done so up to this point has steered clear.
Alien Day hasn't had much life in it over the last few years. A big trailer drop or something on that date in 2024 could definitely give it a big injection of hype that it hasn't had in a while.
And I'm not saying it'll start on that day. We can probably expect to see stuff start trickling in after the New Year, but most likely closer to springtime. Which lines up with Alien Day nicely.
Yeah I think the last time Alien Day felt like it really had any major significance was when Covenant was coming out. It was cool. So I wouldn't be against waiting to see something on Alien Day and make a whole big occasion and fanfare out of it.
Quote from: Cosmic Incubation on Dec 15, 2023, 09:47:15 PMYeah I think the last time Alien Day felt like it really had any major significance was when Covenant was coming out. It was cool. So I wouldn't be against waiting to see something on Alien Day and make a whole big occasion and fanfare out of it.
For all intents and purposes, given how the next 2 years are suposed to have new live action Alien content, i think it's pretty much a given that there will be something in Alien Day.
Quote" Rumors say the characters at the center of the story are young thieves coming across the Xenomorph during a heist, but we can't confirm that information.
https://www.space.com/everything-we-know-about-alien-romulus?utm_source=twitter.com&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=socialflow&utm_content=space.com
I haven't heard this young thieves rumor before.
The leaked audition tapes did have characters on board a salvage ship so that would track.
That is definitely the simple way to describe the set up for the film before the chaos hits. It's a lot more than that in the final product.
Quote from: Mike's Monsters on Dec 19, 2023, 06:17:29 PMThat is definitely the simple way to describe the set up for the film before the chaos hits. It's a lot more than that in the final product.
My theory/prediction is that The Company knows that the Romulus is Xeno infested, so they set a trap for these young thieves/salvage crew to board it, so that they can get more data and info regarding the Xenos.
Maybe, they are even monitoring the Romulus station through video camera surveilance, all from the safety of their own offices.
Now, how all of this will connect the prequels with the original movies, beats me.
Quote from: PortugueseXeno on Dec 19, 2023, 08:04:32 PMQuote from: Mike's Monsters on Dec 19, 2023, 06:17:29 PMThat is definitely the simple way to describe the set up for the film before the chaos hits. It's a lot more than that in the final product.
My theory/prediction is that The Company knows that the Romulus is Xeno infested, so they set a trap for these young thieves/salvage crew to board it, so that they can get more data and info regarding the Xenos.
Maybe, they are even monitoring the Romulus station through video camera surveilance, all from the safety of their own offices.
Now, how all of this will connect the prequels with the original movies, beats me.
Hmmm. Interesting and neat idea. Though I feel like we've already seen a situation like that play out with David unleashing the Xeno on The Covenant and watching it from the monitors.
I'd prefer if it went a route we haven't seen and not to retread too closely to what's been done before. I don't want a new movie that just repeats the beats from previous entries. That doesn't make it very "new" in my opinion.
Strongly agree.
I still think we are getting a very loose adaptation of Isolation. Ship finds something, is infected, docks with station for help. Hilarity ensues.
Quote from: Mike's Monsters on Dec 19, 2023, 08:21:49 PMQuote from: PortugueseXeno on Dec 19, 2023, 08:04:32 PMQuote from: Mike's Monsters on Dec 19, 2023, 06:17:29 PMThat is definitely the simple way to describe the set up for the film before the chaos hits. It's a lot more than that in the final product.
My theory/prediction is that The Company knows that the Romulus is Xeno infested, so they set a trap for these young thieves/salvage crew to board it, so that they can get more data and info regarding the Xenos.
Maybe, they are even monitoring the Romulus station through video camera surveilance, all from the safety of their own offices.
Now, how all of this will connect the prequels with the original movies, beats me.
Hmmm. Interesting and neat idea. Though I feel like we've already seen a situation like that play out with David unleashing the Xeno on The Covenant and watching it from the monitors.
I'd prefer if it went a route we haven't seen and not to retread too closely to what's been done before. I don't want a new movie that just repeats the beats from previous entries. That doesn't make it very "new" in my opinion.
Yes, Covenant did that with David, but the android was literally there on the ship.
My idea would be for The Company to be monitoring the Romulus, but from far away (on another planet or station), just to kind of show the banality of corporate evil and how isolated they are from the actual danger and the atrocities being commited upon innocent people.
But yeah, i agree with you, at the end of the day, i would prefer something that doesn't repeat the beats from previous movies.
Quote from: TheBATMAN on Dec 19, 2023, 08:24:25 PMI still think we are getting a very loose adaptation of Isolation. Ship finds something, is infected, docks with station for help. Hilarity ensues.
There have been some rumours/leaks from PerfectOrganism podcast that mentioned Romulus serving as bridge between the prequels and the originals movies, so i wouldn't be surprised if the Romulus station crew made contact with the Covenant and then brought something back.
Hilarity ensues indeed.
Also, Romulus is most likely a space station, because of this https://www.instagram.com/p/C0XnEauPXxp/
It'll have a few Isolation influences, but it's not Isolation in story or execution. It's doing its own thing.
Quote from: Mike's Monsters on Dec 19, 2023, 08:35:26 PMIt'll have a few Isolation influences, but it's not Isolation in story or execution. It's doing its own thing.
Yeah, it seems that way.
PerfectOrganism leaked that the Xeno design would be similar to the one in Alien (1979) and the Stompy from isolation, which is also what Dead by Daylight tried to emulate.
Well, that and the fact that the story will take our characters to a space station.
Hopefully, no Ripley connection though, i would prefer a new bunch of characters with no relation to the past.
But if Romulus does end up being about young thieves, then that is the second time Fede Alavrez uses those typs of a characters for a movie of his, with the first being Don't Breathe.
Alien Trilogy, interesting phrasing -that I personally like.
People have spoken of the film opening with some kind of link to Alien and PO said the film starts on a planet then moves to a station so I wonder if those in the Company with knowledge of Special Order 937 have covertly hired a crew of misfits to check out the Nostromo's last known positon at LV-426.
I'd say we are either going back to the Derelict or its the Covenant as the source of the creatures. Given the timeline placement im not sure i'd want the Alien coming from another source.
I think putting a face to those behind Special Order 937 would be a cool link to the first film without being too on the nose.
Where did PO leak the design? Because I know they haven't seen it yet. They were quite surprised to know that I had when I spoke with them over the summer. I've hinted at design over the last year, but avoided giving all the details on what it looks like. It's not exactly what people are thinking.
Quote from: TheBATMAN on Dec 19, 2023, 08:39:56 PMPeople have spoken of the film opening with some kind of link to Alien and PO said the film starts on a planet then moves to a station so I wonder if those in the Company with knowledge of Special Order 937 have covertly hired a crew of misfits to check out the Nostromo's last known positon at LV-426.
I'd say we are either going back to the Derelict or its the Covenant as the source of the creatures. Given the timeline placement im not sure i'd want the Alien coming from another source.
I think putting a face to those behind Special Order 937 would be a cool link to the first film without being too on the nose.
I can see the Covenant being mentioned, but i doubt it would be shown.
The Covenant's aesthetic doesn't match the retro cassete futurism that Fede Alvarez is trying to bring back to the franchise again.
I can see something happening like this, a character representing The Company could give some exposition regarding how Weyland has been setting traps for its employees all over the known cosmos, in hopes of getting them to come into contact with the Xeno species and become data for their investigations.
Perhaps, they can refer to the Covenant ship has one of those traps (although that is more of David thing).
Quote from: Mike's Monsters on Dec 19, 2023, 08:42:50 PMWhere did PO leak the design? Because I know they haven't seen it yet. They were quite surprised to know that I had when I spoke with them over the summer. I've hinted at design over the last year, but avoided giving all the details on what it looks like. It's not exactly what people are thinking.
They didn't leak the design persay, but in their instagram account, which is where they share their scoops, they mentioned that the Xeno from Romulus will be inspired by the original movie and Alien Isolation.
Quote from: Mike's Monsters on Dec 19, 2023, 08:42:50 PMWhere did PO leak the design? Because I know they haven't seen it yet. They were quite surprised to know that I had when I spoke with them over the summer. I've hinted at design over the last year, but avoided giving all the details on what it looks like. It's not exactly what people are thinking.
Your mysterious comments continue to both intrigue and frustrate me hahaha, but honestly, i'm glad.
Even though i want the Xeno to go back to its biomechanical roots, i still love to see some slight variations in its design.
It helps make every movie feel different from one another, when you have the perfect organism adapt to whatever the movie needs it to be.
Also, if Alavrez brought Dane Hallett on board, i doubt he would have him just copypaste the Big Chap and be done with it.
Yes I appreciate the hints you provide without necessarily spoiling anything. It keeps the intrigue going during this dry spell.
We haven't seen this Xeno before and it's not copy and pasted. That doesn't mean it's a departure into unfamiliar territory either. It's being made by some of the best or the best in the industry too, who all have a lot of love for the original designs and what has worked in the franchise. I personally feel like the design tapped into everything that's worked and applied into one killer beast.
But how it's executed is the big thing that could ruin it all, and only the final film will give us that answer.
From my understanding too, Dane Hallett wasn't much of a say on anything. He was just another cog in a majorly talented team of designers to create for the film. It's not like he was a lead or anything. Dane is extremely talented, but also makes it sound like he does all the designing for the films on social media from his postings, which is far from the case.
I imagine it is inspired by the Alien³ design to some degree anyway because Fede Alvarez inquired about that one, I imagine it is either comparable to that or Aliens considering the team working on this. But with a completely new aspect.
Quote from: TheBATMAN on Dec 19, 2023, 08:52:51 PMYes I appreciate the hints you provide without necessarily spoiling anything. It keeps the intrigue going during this dry spell.
Yeah and it keeps the community to stay somewhat alive and fresh.
Also, i think we got our first my dad works at Nintendo comment for Romulus.
This is from the r/LV-426.
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I was just at a party this past weekend and talked with a friend of mine who is a vfx guy working on it. He was mum on anything (was hesitant to even mention the title until I threw it out there and he said he wasn't even sure if it was announced).. but yeah he did say he's working on a new alien film that takes place between alien and aliens.
I can say he shares the opinion that prometheus and covenant shat the bed and this is not that. when he said "its pretty cool" i got the sense that he was not shitting me."
Well, either way, i hope it's true and good.
Quote from: Mike's Monsters on Dec 19, 2023, 08:55:21 PMBut how it's executed is the big thing that could ruin it all, and only the final film will give us that answer.
Obviously, i don't know how it looks, but one thing that has always irked me in the practicall effects of the Xenos... were the legs.
The legs always break my immersion and make it feel like a man in a rubber suit to me, so in my perfect delulu world, the Legacy Effects team would strive to something bolder and more ambitious with its legs, perhaps something like Stompy.
Is that easy? Probably not hahaha, especially because of how practical effects heavy Fede Alavrez is, so a Stompy-legs like Xeno would probably need some sort of CGI enhancement, which is something that Fede doesn't seem to be a fan of.
Quote from: BlueMarsalis79 on Dec 19, 2023, 08:55:24 PMBut with a completely new aspect
Maybe, this is just me, but i always wanted to see a Xeno drone with some sort of tendrils or soemthing that would make it seem as some sort of pubic hair on its phalic head.
Disgusting and creepy? Yes, but perhaps a little too over the top in a live-action setting.
https://www.amazon.co.uk/Aliens-Rogue-Remastered-Dark-Horse/dp/1569712670
Like this Xeno from the Rogue comicbook, i think these tendrils could work.
I was more thinking, more human like qualities, not a cheap gimmick like hair or dreads.
Quote from: BlueMarsalis79 on Dec 19, 2023, 09:16:28 PMI was more thinking, more human like qualities, not a cheap gimmick like hair or dreads.
Xeno magnum dong?
The folks who I know who've worked on it and or seen the film also echo that it doesn't feel like it's shitting on the franchise. The people who I'm in connection with have strong distaste towards the prequels and have been very happy with the new production. That Reddit post tracks with my contacts.
It really feels like they're just trying to make a solid ALIEN movie that probably won't be too controversial, but just does what it needs to do to get it right after a few flubs with previous entries. I honestly don't need it to break new ground or give us crazy new ideas, just tell a story we haven't seen and do it well. Entertain me. Treat the creature with respect.
Then if this does well, go further and explore like the sequels did.
I'm kind of seeing this like a reset like PREY did. Give the franchise a jolt of what worked and show you can do it again.
I am happy to hear that the little hints are well received! I know not everyone likes that I'm even giving any bits, but I'm never intending to spoil or ruin anything. I could simply lay out the story and give a lot of surprises is if I wanted to. But that's not fair nor respectful to anyone. I never intend to go that route. I'll always keep it very light. I can't wait to show off some of the things I own from production too. I've got photos at the ready. 8)
Quote from: Mike's Monsters on Dec 19, 2023, 09:21:47 PMThe folks who I know who've worked on it and or seen the film also echo that it doesn't feel like it's shitting on the franchise. The people who I'm in connection with have strong distaste towards the prequels and have been very happy with the new production. That Reddit post tracks with my contacts.
I like the prequels as standalones, but i completely understand why people criticize and hate it, hell, i agree with the criticism, it's just that whatever good is in those movies is enough for me to rewatch them frequently.
And that's totally valid! I'm not a fan of the films, but I'm able to find a lot of positives in them when I watch. They have a lot of great elements. But as a whole package, it's no wonder why they're not as well received.
Quote from: Mike's Monsters on Dec 19, 2023, 09:21:47 PMIt really feels like they're just trying to make a solid ALIEN movie that probably won't be too controversial, but just does what it needs to do to get it right after a few flubs with previous entries. I honestly don't need it to break new ground or give us crazy new ideas, just tell a story we haven't seen and do it well. Entertain me. Treat the creature with respect.
Then if this does well, go further and explore like the sequels did.
I'm kind of seeing this like a reset like PREY did. Give the franchise a jolt of what worked and show you can do it again.
Yeah, i agree.
I don't need Romulus to break new ground, i just need it to be a nice horror-scifi movie with characters that i care about and not treating the xeno as another generic hollywood monster.
And it's kind of wild to think that Disney may have some sort of influence in saving the Predator and Alien franchises, after everything that they have done to Star Wars and Marvel.
Quote from: Mike's Monsters on Dec 19, 2023, 09:21:47 PMI am happy to hear that the little hints are well received! I know not everyone likes that I'm even giving any bits, but I'm never intending to spoil or ruin anything. I could simply lay out the story and give a lot of surprises is if I wanted to. But that's not fair nor respectful to anyone. I never intend to go that route. I'll always keep it very light. I can't wait to show off some of the things I own from production too. I've got photos at the ready. 8)
Yeah, the non-spoilers scoops are cute and good for the community, so thank you for doing that without actually spoiling and ruining the work of many.
What happened with the Insomniac leak today is a travesty and i feel for the people that work there.
Reminds me of that zombie movie involving a heist.
Quote from: Mike's Monsters on Dec 19, 2023, 09:21:47 PMThe folks who I know who've worked on it and or seen the film also echo that it doesn't feel like it's shitting on the franchise. The people who I'm in connection with have strong distaste towards the prequels
<sends Ridley Scott a memo> ;D
The guy from r/LV426 that said he has a friend that worked on Romulus also said this:
"He does computer graphics, not sure his specific role on this one - i didnt pry.. (i usually don't) but he usually works in nuke doing compositing and touch ups as far as i know. And yeah the alien (s?) is/are supposedly all practical. puppets/animatronics. Im trying to temper my expectations as im typically pretty easily disappointed."
Well, if this is true, then i guess we are ditching the man in a rubber suit and going full Jurassic Park.
Mike Monster's, this was the same dude i mentioned that also dislikes the prequels, like you said your sources also hated them too.
Jurassic Park used people in suits.
The point is that they're practical. I doubt they'd be completely puppeteer or animatronic.
Quote from: SiL on Dec 20, 2023, 10:06:08 AMJurassic Park used people in suits.
The point is that they're practical. I doubt they'd be completely puppeteer or animatronic.
NOOOOOO!!!!
It seems i can't escape the man in a rubber suit legs.
Return of the rod puppet?
Quote from: PortugueseXeno on Dec 20, 2023, 10:16:20 AMQuote from: SiL on Dec 20, 2023, 10:06:08 AMJurassic Park used people in suits.
The point is that they're practical. I doubt they'd be completely puppeteer or animatronic.
NOOOOOO!!!!
It seems i can't escape the man in a rubber suit legs.
I didn't say that either.
If you have a shot from the waist up, use a guy in the suit. If you want dumb legs, cgi or puppet for below the waist - which is exactly what they did in AR
Quote from: SiL on Dec 20, 2023, 10:44:50 AMQuote from: PortugueseXeno on Dec 20, 2023, 10:16:20 AMQuote from: SiL on Dec 20, 2023, 10:06:08 AMJurassic Park used people in suits.
The point is that they're practical. I doubt they'd be completely puppeteer or animatronic.
NOOOOOO!!!!
It seems i can't escape the man in a rubber suit legs.
I didn't say that either.
If you have a shot from the waist up, use a guy in the suit. If you want dumb legs, cgi or puppet for below the waist - which is exactly what they did in AR
Still, cgi can ruin things quite a bit.
But i think something like this could work.
https://i.imgur.com/1SJlL63.jpg
Ok, nothing that was said excludes that. That's still mostly a guy in a suit.
Quote from: SiL on Dec 20, 2023, 10:57:02 AMOk, nothing that was said excludes that. That's still mostly a guy in a suit.
True, but the way in which the legs are built makes it seem as if there isn't a man inside.
It's easy to work your suits around your arms because you have more freedom of movement with your arms than with yours legs, but if the legs are fully humanoid, then that breaks away my immersion from the movie (but maybe this is just more of a personal complaint than a general one).
The digitrade legs give it a more alien-feel and movement.
Quote from: PortugueseXeno on Dec 20, 2023, 11:02:55 AMQuote from: SiL on Dec 20, 2023, 10:57:02 AMOk, nothing that was said excludes that. That's still mostly a guy in a suit.
True, but the way in which the legs are built makes it seem as if there isn't a man inside.
The digitrade legs give it a more alien-feel.
What does any of this have to do with what was said about the Alien being practical?
Nobody has said it looks like a guy in suit, what are you on about?
Quote from: SiL on Dec 20, 2023, 11:04:36 AMQuote from: PortugueseXeno on Dec 20, 2023, 11:02:55 AMQuote from: SiL on Dec 20, 2023, 10:57:02 AMOk, nothing that was said excludes that. That's still mostly a guy in a suit.
True, but the way in which the legs are built makes it seem as if there isn't a man inside.
The digitrade legs give it a more alien-feel.
What does any of this have to do with what was said about the Alien being practical?
Nobody has said it looks like a guy in suit, what are you on about?
I mean, at the end of the day, i'm just speculating, it's not like i have any inside scoop, so i don't know what is going to come out of it, which leads to my personal worries.
The only thing we do know it's that it is going to be pratical effects, so it's either a man in a rubber suit or an animatronic.
If it's a man in a rubber suit, then there is a chance that we will get humanoid legs.
I don't understand why you are being so agressive (sorry, if i misunderstood you, but since we are communicating through text, pardon me, if i didn't understand your "tone" or context).
I'm not being aggressive, I just don't understand why you're imagining problems based on what you were told. All anyone said is it's practical and you're leaping to bad looking human legs.
It can be man in a suit AND puppet AND CGI. That's the most likely outcome.
For example, the raptors in Jurassic Park were all 3. Did you think they had bad human legs because some shots were a guy in a suit?
Why not just wait and see?
Quote from: SiL on Dec 20, 2023, 11:11:04 AMWhy not just wait and see?
Well, obviously, it's not like any of us has a choice.
I might as well come up with low expectations and then be happily surprised, but until then, this is the only place where we can discuss this movie, which is still so far away, so might as well vent everything that has been going through my mind (when it comes to the movie), the good and the bad.
But i don't think Fede alvarez has ever used CGI in his movies, so that is why i'm that more nervous, because a suit with digitrade legs could still fall into the category of CGI (in order to remove the human legs in the green suit).
Personally I would prefer humanoid legs, more closer to the original design that way.
Quote from: The Cruentus on Dec 20, 2023, 11:26:23 AMPersonally I would prefer humanoid legs, more closer to the original design that way.
Well, then, with all due respect, i hope you don't get your wish hahahah
I love the original movie, but whenever we get to the climax and Ripley airpoons the f**ker out of the airlock, i can't help myself but laugh at how silly the Xeno looks.
To be fair, it's not like they could do better at the time given the limitations, but since i'm from a younger generation of alien fans, i guess i came in with some sort of different expectations.
The digigrade legs only started because of alien 3, which the Alien comes from a four legged animal. Then resurrection kept it for some reason. AVP movies returned to humanoid legs but then Covenant went back with the animal legs.
With Alien Isolation, it was done for technical reasons to do with walking animation.
Quote from: The Cruentus on Dec 20, 2023, 11:36:06 AMThe digigrade legs only started because of alien 3, which the Alien comes from a four legged animal. Then resurrection kept it for some reason. AVP movies returned to humanoid legs but then Covenant went back with the animal legs.
With Alien Isolation, it was done for technical reasons to do with walking animation.
Yeah, i know, but i personally still think that the Xeno looks more imposing with those legs.
The creature can be tall and lower itself to its prey level without looking too goofy, which is probably what would happen with the humanoid legs.
Also, because it takes away some of its mobility and agility.
I can't picture a Xeno with humanoid legs being as fast as it needs to be, when chasing its prey on vents or hallways.
But after this day, i'm going to start being known as the weird alien legs guy hahahaha
Well it didn't need to be fast originally, they were ambush predators that used their environment to their advantage. It only started outright chasing prey from Alien 3 onward.
Quote from: The Cruentus on Dec 20, 2023, 11:44:48 AMWell it didn't need to be fast originally, they were ambush predators that used their environment to their advantage. It only started outright chasing prey from Alien 3 onward.
What you are saying is all correct though, i won't dispute that, but at the end of the day, it's like i said, it's my personal taste and how the creature resonated with me more.
I grew up binge watching the Alien movies back to back, instead of waiting years for the release of a new one, like so many here have, so once i got to play Alien: isolation, it simply clicked with me more, right away.
I liked how tall and imposing Stompy looked, while still being able to chase its prey, all of that in a very claustrophobic setting, so it could still ambush its prey whenever it needed to.
Stompy had an almost ballerina-like delicacy, but it still had a very serpentine burst, that i really loved.
To me Stompy was the perfect iteration of the creature, so seeing something like that on screen is what i want.
Personal taste is fine, which is why I said I personally would prefer the original leg design. It is like the alien is mimicking a human.
Quote from: The Cruentus on Dec 20, 2023, 11:52:56 AMPersonal taste is fine, which is why I said I personally would prefer the original leg design. It is like the alien is mimicking a human.
True, it looked like it was mimikcing the alien, which i guess Alien 3 then double down with it copying its host traits.
But i don't know if the legs in the original were simply them working with what they could.
It's not like they ever thought about future iterations of the creature, the franchise simply blew in popularity and financial success, so the next directors started to put their own personal ideas for the beast.
Well the ones from Aliens also had humanoid feet, so I don't think it was a budget issue.
Quote from: The Cruentus on Dec 20, 2023, 11:58:30 AMWell the ones from Aliens also had humanoid feet, so I don't think it was a budget issue.
Well, to be fair, it's not like at the time they could still do better, i think.
All movie monsters had humanoid legs, it was simply the norm.
The Alien Queen only worked because it was a giant animatronic and not a man in a rubber suit.
Not to mention that Cameron wanted its xenos to be a part of several action sequences, so he even had to go change the dome in order to not break the suit during all the chaos.
That was a practical reason though, if he wanted to then he could have changed the legs. One would only need short stilts and some different close up shots to show inhuman looking legs.
Quote from: The Cruentus on Dec 20, 2023, 12:11:11 PMThat was a practical reason though, if he wanted to then he could have changed the legs
I don't think he could.
It's simply easier to work and move around with men in rubber suits.
The Alien Queen and the Runner in Alien 3 only "worked" the way that they did because they had an entire team of people to control their movements, instead of just one person donning a suit.
The digitigrade legs are simply a far more ambitious endeavor that lead to all sorts of unnecessary complications.
But to be fair, there were instances in Alien 3 where the Runner was indeed a man in a rubber suit.
Quote from: PortugueseXeno on Dec 20, 2023, 11:20:06 AMBut i don't think Fede alvarez has ever used CGI in his movies,
Of course he has. This is what I'm confused about - you have no real information, you don't seem to have any actual knowledge of the topic, but you're leaping to doomsday scenarios.
Speculation is fine but perhaps first try to educate yourself so you can speculate better.
Quote from: SiL on Dec 20, 2023, 12:31:07 PMQuote from: PortugueseXeno on Dec 20, 2023, 11:20:06 AMBut i don't think Fede alvarez has ever used CGI in his movies,
Of course he has. This is what I'm confused about - you have no real information, you don't seem to have any actual knowledge of the topic, but you're leaping to doomsday scenarios.
Speculation is fine but perhaps first try to educate yourself so you can speculate better.
Has he?
The practical effects for his horror flicks always looked completely practical to me.
The deadites and the injuries made were all done practically, but well, i guess Spider's Web does exist, but i never really saw it in the same genre as Evil Dead and Alien where Fede can shine more.
But well, if i'm wrong, then i'm sorry, and thanks for correcting me.
CGI is used for everything now, touch-ups, environmental changes, green screens, etc. The good CGI you don't notice.
Fede has used CGI in his films. Even Evil Dead. He will use it in Romulus.
There will be a hybrid of CGI AND practical effects/puppets. I would expect more puppet, than man in suit. I know Covenant had a practical Xenomorph on set for lighting purposes, but Romulus isn't just using it for lighting references.
Quick update for reference. While I couldn't find any visuals on a quick search.
https://www.imdb.com/title/tt1288558/fullcredits?ref_=ext_shr_lnk
You can see Evil Dead 2013 has a small VFX crew that did things like CGI work. It's invisible, which means it was done right. I expect similar in ALIEN. But some scenes and moments are going to require CGI, and that doesn't just mean bringing the Xeno to life. Set extension, landscapes, visual clean up for puppet strings and so many different jobs are involved with CGI or VFX. We will likely see puppet and CGI renditions for the xenomorph. I don't expect a man in a suit like the early films. Just hybrid.
Quote from: Mike's Monsters on Dec 20, 2023, 05:58:26 PMFede has used CGI in his films. Even Evil Dead. He will use it in Romulus.
There will be a hybrid of CGI AND practical effects/puppets. I would expect more puppet, than man in suit. I know Covenant had a practical Xenomorph on set for lighting purposes, but Romulus isn't just using it for lighting references.
My dude, you spilled the beans!!
I thought you weren't going to specifically mention how the Xeno was going to be made, so i hope this doesn't turn out bad for you.
But well, if it's more of a puppet and CGI enhancement, then i think the legs will most likely turn out the way i want them to.
Quote from: PortugueseXeno on Dec 20, 2023, 06:07:11 PMQuote from: Mike's Monsters on Dec 20, 2023, 05:58:26 PMFede has used CGI in his films. Even Evil Dead. He will use it in Romulus.
There will be a hybrid of CGI AND practical effects/puppets. I would expect more puppet, than man in suit. I know Covenant had a practical Xenomorph on set for lighting purposes, but Romulus isn't just using it for lighting references.
My dude, you spilled the beans!!
I thought you weren't going to specifically mention how the Xeno was going to be made, so i hope this doesn't turn out bad for you.
But well, if it's more of a puppet and CGI enhancement, then i think the legs will most likely turn out the way i want them to.
We've known this stuff for a year now, which I've also shared over the last year.
I'm not going to go out dropping exactly the design of the Xeno, or how A gets to B. Or the plot of the film. These little details don't actually affect the plot of the movie. You'd be saying the same thing about the first Jurassic Park in 93.
Quote from: Mike's Monsters on Dec 20, 2023, 05:58:26 PMYou can see Evil Dead 2013 has a small VFX crew that did things like CGI work. It's invisible, which means it was done right. I expect similar in ALIEN. But some scenes and moments are going to require CGI, and that doesn't just mean bringing the Xeno to life. Set extension, landscapes, visual clean up for puppet strings and so many different jobs are involved with CGI or VFX. We will likely see puppet and CGI renditions for the xenomorph. I don't expect a man in a suit like the early films. Just hybrid.
Well, obviously, an Alien movie in the 21th century would clearly have CGI for the space scenes, but i don't remember the brutality and gore scenes of Evil Dead having any CGI in it, that is more along the lines of what i meant.
I thought that Alvarez would have the Xeno be fully practical, while using CGI for the backgrounds, etc...
But honestly, i'm glad it turned out to be this way then, since we get the best of both worlds.
Quote from: Mike's Monsters on Dec 20, 2023, 06:11:34 PMQuote from: PortugueseXeno on Dec 20, 2023, 06:07:11 PMQuote from: Mike's Monsters on Dec 20, 2023, 05:58:26 PMFede has used CGI in his films. Even Evil Dead. He will use it in Romulus.
There will be a hybrid of CGI AND practical effects/puppets. I would expect more puppet, than man in suit. I know Covenant had a practical Xenomorph on set for lighting purposes, but Romulus isn't just using it for lighting references.
My dude, you spilled the beans!!
I thought you weren't going to specifically mention how the Xeno was going to be made, so i hope this doesn't turn out bad for you.
But well, if it's more of a puppet and CGI enhancement, then i think the legs will most likely turn out the way i want them to.
We've known this stuff for a year now, which I've also shared over the last year.
My bad then, i knew that we already knew the teams behind the making of the Xeno, but i didn't know that it was going to be a hybrid of cgi-practical.
Apologies, the knowledge of how effects were done these days is pretty standard, so I assumed most here would expect something similar done for ALIEN. Prey used hybrid with practical effects and cgi. It's pretty standard. It's all over Star Wars and other media. Puppets and cgi hybrids are the way to do it and if done right, it's flawless. That's not to say they didn't put a man in a suit at any point of this movie, but I don't know that. Just really wouldn't expect that since they haven't done that since AvPR with a xenomorph. Just like Jurassic Park hasn't had a guy in a Raptor suit for many, many JP movies now.
I think it's just nice to know we don't have a fully CGI xeno like Covenant. I personally like the thing in camera and can tell when it's CG. I think Fede gets that too, but knows where they'll need to use it to enhance the creature.
This could all be wrong and end up completely CGI in the final product if they feel they didn't nail it on camera. But I'm fairly certain that isn't going to be the case here.
Quote from: Mike's Monsters on Dec 20, 2023, 06:18:34 PMApologies, the knowledge of how effects were done these days is pretty standard, so I assumed most here would expect something similar done for ALIEN. Prey used hybrid with practical effects and cgi. It's pretty standard. It's all over Star Wars and other media. Puppets and cgi hybrids are the way to do it and if done right, it's flawless. That's not to say they didn't put a man in a suit at any point of this movie, but I don't know that. Just really wouldn't expect that since they haven't done that since AvPR with a xenomorph. Just like Jurassic Park hasn't had a guy in a Raptor suit for many, many JP movies now.
Well, i got curious and went to see the cast and crew for Romulus.
https://www.imdb.com/title/tt18412256/fullcredits/?ref_=tt_ql_1
It turns out some of the people working in the visual effects department, belong to Industrial Light and Magic (ILM), so that seems pretty impressive for this type of movie.
Not even Prometheus or Alien Covenant had them on board.
Quote from: Mike's Monsters on Dec 20, 2023, 06:18:34 PMI think it's just nice to know we don't have a fully CGI xeno like Covenant. I personally like the thing in camera and can tell when it's CG. I think Fede gets that too, but knows where they'll need to use it to enhance the creature.
Yeah, i agree.
The Protomorph had some incredible CGI shots, like when it was bashing its head against the glass, the headbite shower scene or when Daniels trapped it inside of a vehicle, but the rest of its scenes were quite bad.
Especially the scene after the headbite, when it gets wet with the water from the shower, that CGI was horrendous.
Romulus has the best of the best working on it. Everyone kind of came together because they wanted to make this one special. It's a collaborative project between a bunch of visual and special effect houses. Practical and digital effect masters.
Quote from: Mike's Monsters on Dec 20, 2023, 06:26:29 PMRomulus has the best of the best working on it. Everyone kind of came together because they wanted to make this one special. It's a collaborative project between a bunch of visual and special effect houses. Practical and digital effect masters.
Yeah, i can see that, after digging through the people working on it.
Honestly, i don't know why i never went to imdb to see who was working on it, i guess part of me didn't expect for that information to be even possible to acquire 8-9 months before the movie was even released.
But yeah, i don't want to get my expectations too high (even though i will hahahah, i can't help myself, i'm a very optimist person when it comes to movies), but given the team behind it and Necrominicon II comments regarding how twisted and dark this movie will be, i guess we really have a dark horse here to potentially revive the franchise, like Prey did.
Hopefully, the movie won't be too expensive, since we don't need another box office bomb like Covenant.
Quote from: PortugueseXeno on Dec 20, 2023, 11:07:05 AMI don't understand why you are being so agressive (sorry, if i misunderstood you, but since we are communicating through text, pardon me, if i didn't understand your "tone" or context).
Don't mind him. Dude's got major issues.
IMDb can be inaccurate too. Sometimes false information gets put up until it's verified by the actual source. Many actors and crew have to update their own IMDb pages themselves. So just know that everything may not be accurate at this moment there. And also that many haven't updated and added that film to their resume yet because it's not out. So IMDb won't paint a full picture at this moment in time, and may not be a perfect reference until closer to or after release.
I'm super stoked for this one. Like I said, it's sounding like it's back to basics. Sounding like they're gonna try to do the thing Ridley said he was doing with Covenant, which never happened: "scare the shit out of us". I haven't had an ALIEN movie do that to me since ALIENS. So if it delivers that, I'll be very happy.
Quote from: Mike's Monsters on Dec 20, 2023, 06:33:58 PMI'm super stoked for this one. Like I said, it's sounding like it's back to basics. Sounding like they're gonna try to do the thing Ridley said he was doing with Covenant, which never happened: "scare the shit out of us". I haven't had an ALIEN movie do that to me since ALIENS. So if it delivers that, I'll be very happy.
To be honest, besides Alien: Isolation, this franchise has never really scared me.
I guess, i always saw the Xenomorph as cool, when it comes to movie creatures.
When i was kid, i saw it as cool, but as i grew and read more regarding the franchise and its themes, i came to apreciate the cosmic horror vibe that it had, even though it didn't really scare me.
Don't get me wrong, everything about the Xenos and facehuggers is terrifying and disgusting, but i mostly find it fascinating, how someone could have so much imagination to come up with this sort of thing.
The type of horror that really scares me is folk-horror and cults, witches, etc...
Quote from: The Eighth Passenger on Dec 20, 2023, 06:32:19 PMDon't mind him. Dude's got major issues.
Maybe, but that is not something that i really want to obssess over and speculate, since i don't that person, not to mention that things like nuance and context can get lost through text.
I come here to hit and run with my comments, and try to engage in the community in a healthy way, so i don't need any kind of drama.
Especially as a newbie, i already fear being known as the weird digitrigade legs guy hahahah
Alien chills, Aliens thrills, but only Alien³ makes me cry, only Alien Isolation makes me scream.
Quote from: Mike's Monsters on Dec 20, 2023, 06:33:58 PMIMDb can be inaccurate too. Sometimes false information gets put up until it's verified by the actual source. Many actors and crew have to update their own IMDb pages themselves. So just know that everything may not be accurate at this moment there. And also that many haven't updated and added that film to their resume yet because it's not out. So IMDb won't paint a full picture at this moment in time, and may not be a perfect reference until closer to or after release.
Yeah, we had HudaFuk on Prometheus 2's IMDB page for a little while as a joke. He was going to play Janek's twin white brother Jenak. Someone else also put Danny Webb as Morse on there.
Another wag (wasn't me) put Aaron Percival on Alien: Covenant's (aka Alien: Paradise Lost) Wikipedia page. He of course was going to play Corporal Hicks.
Quote from: PortugueseXeno on Dec 20, 2023, 06:23:56 PMThe Protomorph had some incredible CGI shots, like when it was bashing its head against the glass, the headbite shower scene or when Daniels trapped it inside of a vehicle, but the rest of its scenes were quite bad.
Praetomorph. The Protomorph is a species of pseudo-Xenomorph created by the Fulfremmen, including the Deacon.
Quote from: Slutty Badger on Dec 20, 2023, 06:50:38 PMQuote from: PortugueseXeno on Dec 20, 2023, 06:23:56 PMThe Protomorph had some incredible CGI shots, like when it was bashing its head against the glass, the headbite shower scene or when Daniels trapped it inside of a vehicle, but the rest of its scenes were quite bad.
Praetomorph. The Protomorph is a species of pseudo-Xenomorph created by the Fulfremmen, including the Deacon.
These Xeno sub-species names are getting out of control.
Quote from: The Eighth Passenger on Dec 20, 2023, 06:48:12 PMQuote from: Mike's Monsters on Dec 20, 2023, 06:33:58 PMIMDb can be inaccurate too. Sometimes false information gets put up until it's verified by the actual source. Many actors and crew have to update their own IMDb pages themselves. So just know that everything may not be accurate at this moment there. And also that many haven't updated and added that film to their resume yet because it's not out. So IMDb won't paint a full picture at this moment in time, and may not be a perfect reference until closer to or after release.
Yeah, we had HudaFuk on Prometheus 2's IMDB page for a little while as a joke. He was going to play Janek's twin white brother Jenak. Someone else also put Danny Webb as Morse on there.
Another wag (wasn't me) put Aaron Percival on Alien: Covenant's (aka Alien: Paradise Lost) Wikipedia page. He of course was going to play Corporal Hicks.
I did it know this lol
Quote from: Slutty Badger on Dec 20, 2023, 06:50:38 PMQuote from: PortugueseXeno on Dec 20, 2023, 06:23:56 PMThe Protomorph had some incredible CGI shots, like when it was bashing its head against the glass, the headbite shower scene or when Daniels trapped it inside of a vehicle, but the rest of its scenes were quite bad.
Praetomorph. The Protomorph is a species of pseudo-Xenomorph created by the Fulfremmen, including the Deacon.
I'm sure this is official naming, but this is sooooo close to the same name that it looks nitpicky on the surface. I wish they'd use a different term or something. I feel like an uneducated casual fan when it comes to some of these naming conventions. I thought they were called Neomorphs? Or am I completely misunderstanding.
Quote from: The Eighth Passenger on Dec 20, 2023, 06:48:12 PMQuote from: Mike's Monsters on Dec 20, 2023, 06:33:58 PMIMDb can be inaccurate too. Sometimes false information gets put up until it's verified by the actual source. Many actors and crew have to update their own IMDb pages themselves. So just know that everything may not be accurate at this moment there. And also that many haven't updated and added that film to their resume yet because it's not out. So IMDb won't paint a full picture at this moment in time, and may not be a perfect reference until closer to or after release.
Yeah, we had HudaFuk on Prometheus 2's IMDB page for a little while as a joke. He was going to play Janek's twin white brother Jenak. Someone else also put Danny Webb as Morse on there.
Another wag (wasn't me) put Aaron Percival on Alien: Covenant's (aka Alien: Paradise Lost) Wikipedia page. He of course was going to play Corporal Hicks.
Corporal has its own article in Xenopedia ;D
Quote from: XenopediaIn 2183, Percival was stationed in Garrison System Delta of the Crestus Garrison Systems and placed in command of the 4th Recon Battalion of the 7th Marine Garrison, operating in the Outer Rim Territories and the Frontier.
▶️ Aeron Percival (https://avp.fandom.com/wiki/Aeron_Percival)
Quote from: Immortan Jonesy on Dec 20, 2023, 06:57:28 PMQuote from: XenopediaIn 2183, Percival was stationed in Garrison System Delta of the Crestus Garrison Systems and placed in command of the 4th Recon Battalion of the 7th Marine Garrison, operating in the Outer Rim Territories and the Frontier.
Hicks certainly gets around. Is that from a comic or a book?
Quote from: The Eighth Passenger on Dec 20, 2023, 06:59:42 PMQuote from: Immortan Jonesy on Dec 20, 2023, 06:57:28 PMQuote from: XenopediaIn 2183, Percival was stationed in Garrison System Delta of the Crestus Garrison Systems and placed in command of the 4th Recon Battalion of the 7th Marine Garrison, operating in the Outer Rim Territories and the Frontier.
Hicks certainly gets around. Is that from a comic or a book?
I think it must be from the Free League RPG.
Quote from: Immortan Jonesy on Dec 20, 2023, 07:02:46 PMI think it must be from the Free League RPG.
Nice, he certainly deserves to be immortalized in the Alienverse.
Quote from: Mike's Monsters on Dec 20, 2023, 06:56:33 PMI'm sure this is official naming, but this is sooooo close to the same name that it looks nitpicky on the surface. I wish they'd use a different term or something. I feel like an uneducated casual fan when it comes to some of these naming conventions. I thought they were called Neomorphs? Or am I completely misunderstanding.
Protomorphs = includes the Trilobite and Deacon, created by the Fulfremmen.
Neomorphs = the creatures spawned by spores in
Covenant; they have since made other appearances.
Praetomorphs = Xenomorph variant created by David. Possibly the first successful iteration of an artificially-created Xenomorph.
Xenomorphs = duh.
Hope this helps!
Quote from: Slutty Badger on Dec 20, 2023, 07:13:17 PMQuote from: Mike's Monsters on Dec 20, 2023, 06:56:33 PMI'm sure this is official naming, but this is sooooo close to the same name that it looks nitpicky on the surface. I wish they'd use a different term or something. I feel like an uneducated casual fan when it comes to some of these naming conventions. I thought they were called Neomorphs? Or am I completely misunderstanding.
Protomorphs = includes the Trilobite and Deacon, created by the Fulfremmen.
Neomorphs = the creatures spawned by spores in Covenant; they have since made other appearances.
Praetomorphs = Xenomorph variant created by David. Possibly the first successful iteration of an artificially-created Xenomorph.
Xenomorphs = duh.
Hope this helps!
See, I knew I was wrong. But even with this being official naming conventions, I think the names are TOO close to each other. I totally get them, just wish they could use terms that don't sound exactly the same. Protomorph and Praetomorph and wayyyyy to close and easy to get confused in my case. I honestly thought you guys were referring to a Praetorian for a second. 😅
I'm aware im being very nitpicky here lol. I'm going to just stick to calling them Neomorphs, Deacons, David's Xenos and the like for my own sanity and lack of confusion lol.
Thank you for the info Slutty Badger!
I think protomorph was coined by the folks as that sci fi magazine.
Really speaking Xenomorph is something that should probably not be used as an official name for the species, since its just a phrase to mean strange-shape or something.
Quote from: The Cruentus on Dec 20, 2023, 08:19:36 PMI think protomorph was coined by the folks as that sci fi magazine.
Really speaking Xenomorph is something that should probably not be used as an official name for the species, since its just a phrase to mean strange-shape or something.
Xenomorph XX121, then, if we're being technical.
Now I know that lost feeling my girlfriend has when I start talking about the design changes between the first 4 films. I get the technicalities, but I think they may be too technical for my simple brain. Feeling like a filthy causal over here today! :laugh:
Quote from: Slutty Badger on Dec 20, 2023, 08:30:29 PMQuote from: The Cruentus on Dec 20, 2023, 08:19:36 PMI think protomorph was coined by the folks as that sci fi magazine.
Really speaking Xenomorph is something that should probably not be used as an official name for the species, since its just a phrase to mean strange-shape or something.
Xenomorph XX121, then, if we're being technical.
That is just a designation by W-Y researchers though, still not a species name. Its not an issue, since such designation is expected from scientists studying a specimen, but its laymen's term name should be better than just "xenomorph". :laugh:
Quote from: Mike's Monsters on Dec 20, 2023, 08:39:56 PMNow I know that lost feeling my girlfriend has when I start talking about the design changes between the first 4 films. I get the technicalities, but I think they may be too technical for my simple brain. Feeling like a filthy causal over here today! :laugh:
Feeling casual? get your nose into some Alien media at once!!! XD
Quote from: The Cruentus on Dec 20, 2023, 08:42:30 PMThat is just a designation by W-Y researchers though, still not a species name. Its not an issue, since such designation is expected from scientists studying a specimen, but its laymen's term name should be better than just "xenomorph". :laugh:
How about "Alien"?
That is still a general term really.
By the way, Mike's Monsters, without asking for spoilers regarding the plot or the xeno design, have your sources said anything about the perfomances of the actors?
You said that some people you knew had already seen the film, so did they say anything regarding this new young batch of actors?
Cailee Spaeny seems to be on a roll and nice run with Priscilla and Civil War (looks good and the test screenings were positive), so i'm interested to see if there is any buzz towards her perfomance here too.
I know I've opened an egg and shoved my face in it by sharing that I know things. But to be clear, I won't be responding to everything that I'm asked about, plus, I don't want to give it all away.
Performances I've asked about, but like peoples opinions on the design; may break down to personal preference. I thought Amber Midthunder and Dakota Beavers were powerhouses in PREY, but not everyone agrees with me. So really, not sure we'd get a clear answer at this stage and maybe wait til we see more to ask that question for ourselves.
It didn't feel like a cast of stupid teenagers like the "worry" has been though.
Quote from: Mike's Monsters on Dec 21, 2023, 06:24:29 PMBut to be clear, I won't be responding to everything that I'm asked about, plus, I don't want to give it all away.
No problem, man.
That isn't intended to be rude or come off as annoyed by the way! I just realize I do needed to make it clear.
For example, I've had a ton of info on the new Godzilla X Kong movie since it started filming and when I shared I had a crew shirt in my possession last year, my Twitter and IG DMs went insane for a bit from fans. So just kinda trying to avoid that here haha.
I'm equally as excited myself. I'll share more as more comes out officially too. I've got a lot to share and say when I can! But again, not going to give specifics until those specifics are publicly known in some capacity. I'll drop my hints here and there.
Don't worry, man, it wasn't rude at all.
I completely understand your position and i don't want you to feel like you owe us something.
I mean, yeah, sure, i'm kind of spoiler-slut, so i would love to know all the bits and little pieces of possible information, but if i don't, it's fine either way, since it will make the experiences of watching the trailers and movie all that much sweeter.
Either way, thanks for everything that you have shared.
Appreciate you stoking the fan flames haha. Just be careful.
The cinematography of the movie being made by Galo Olivares seems like an interesting choice.
I took a peek at some of his work and what he did with the Hansel and Gretel movie felt really intimate and claustrophobic.
It really felt like the camera was right on the face of its characters, so maybe that is his specialty, but his music videos are also really good.
There are certainly some good close ups in Romulus. Very good.
Quote from: Mike's Monsters on Jan 03, 2024, 05:42:41 PMThere are certainly some good close ups in Romulus. Very good.
Damn, Mike.
You even got a hold of that too.
I'm going to be honest, if there was a machine that allowed me to swap memories with somebody, then i would pick you right now... although in that case, i might as well go for Fede Alvarez instead.
It's a blessing and a curse. I still haven't seen the whole thing yet, but I saw pre-CGI stuff and part of me wishes I'd just been able to see the final product for that to be my first experience. But it's also interesting seeing it come together bit by bit.
Quote from: Mike's Monsters on Jan 03, 2024, 11:27:35 PMIt's a blessing and a curse. I still haven't seen the whole thing yet, but I saw pre-CGI stuff and part of me wishes I'd just been able to see the final product for that to be my first experience. But it's also interesting seeing it come together bit by bit.
It would be kind of funny if that was already the finished product (or most of it).
Fede did say that he showed Ridley Scott, his director's cut already, but it most likely is the type of screening where the VFX and soundtrack are not finished yet.
Quote from: Mike's Monsters on Jan 03, 2024, 11:27:35 PMIt's a blessing and a curse. I still haven't seen the whole thing yet, but I saw pre-CGI stuff and part of me wishes I'd just been able to see the final product for that to be my first experience. But it's also interesting seeing it come together bit by bit.
Ok, without giving away anything, based on what you saw, where would you rank Romulus against the other Alien movies? 😃
I can't say any ranking because I've not seen a complete package yet. There may end up being things I haven't seen yet that I end up disagreeing with or just not liking. I've liked what I've seen though. A lot.
Quote from: Acid_Reign161 on Jan 04, 2024, 06:24:07 PMQuote from: Mike's Monsters on Jan 03, 2024, 11:27:35 PMIt's a blessing and a curse. I still haven't seen the whole thing yet, but I saw pre-CGI stuff and part of me wishes I'd just been able to see the final product for that to be my first experience. But it's also interesting seeing it come together bit by bit.
Ok, without giving away anything, based on what you saw, where would you rank Romulus against the other Alien movies? 😃
Damn, you are going right for the jugular.
I don't want to speak over Mike or something, but in case he doesn't respond quickly or is busy, i'll just tell you what he wrote in some previous comments.
He isn't the biggest fan of the prequels and Romulus seems to capture the feel of Alien, Aliens (and Alien Isolation), so unless he is an Alien 3 fan, he will probably put Romulus as his 3rd... unless, it's crazy good and is somehow a better movie than Aliens.
He probably won't give you any spoilers though.
Quote from: PortugueseXeno on Jan 04, 2024, 06:52:37 PMQuote from: Acid_Reign161 on Jan 04, 2024, 06:24:07 PMQuote from: Mike's Monsters on Jan 03, 2024, 11:27:35 PMIt's a blessing and a curse. I still haven't seen the whole thing yet, but I saw pre-CGI stuff and part of me wishes I'd just been able to see the final product for that to be my first experience. But it's also interesting seeing it come together bit by bit.
Ok, without giving away anything, based on what you saw, where would you rank Romulus against the other Alien movies? 😃
Damn, you are going right for the jugular.
I don't want to speak over Mike or something, but in case he doesn't respond quickly or is busy, i'll just tell you what he wrote in some previous comments.
He isn't the biggest fan of the prequels and Romulus seems to capture the feel of Alien, Aliens (and Alien Isolation), so unless he is an Alien 3 fan, he will probably put Romulus as his 3rd... unless, it's crazy good and is somehow a better movie than Aliens.
He probably won't give you any spoilers though.
That's good enough for me 😁👍
I mean I know opinions are subjective (for example I rank Alien 3 very highly and I'm aware I'm in the (awesome 😎) minority here; but hearing from someone who has seen parts of it who is passionate about the first two movies, and feels it could potentially sit alongside the first two movies is a win in my view!
What say you Mike? In your opinion, potential to beat Alien or Aliens when finished? Or a comfortable 3rd place in your book? 😃
Quote from: Acid_Reign161 on Jan 04, 2024, 07:09:33 PMQuote from: PortugueseXeno on Jan 04, 2024, 06:52:37 PMQuote from: Acid_Reign161 on Jan 04, 2024, 06:24:07 PMQuote from: Mike's Monsters on Jan 03, 2024, 11:27:35 PMIt's a blessing and a curse. I still haven't seen the whole thing yet, but I saw pre-CGI stuff and part of me wishes I'd just been able to see the final product for that to be my first experience. But it's also interesting seeing it come together bit by bit.
Ok, without giving away anything, based on what you saw, where would you rank Romulus against the other Alien movies? 😃
Damn, you are going right for the jugular.
I don't want to speak over Mike or something, but in case he doesn't respond quickly or is busy, i'll just tell you what he wrote in some previous comments.
He isn't the biggest fan of the prequels and Romulus seems to capture the feel of Alien, Aliens (and Alien Isolation), so unless he is an Alien 3 fan, he will probably put Romulus as his 3rd... unless, it's crazy good and is somehow a better movie than Aliens.
He probably won't give you any spoilers though.
That's good enough for me 😁👍
I mean I know opinions are subjective (for example I rank Alien 3 very highly and I'm aware I'm in the (awesome 😎) minority here; but hearing from someone who has seen parts of it who is passionate about the first two movies, and feels it could potentially sit alongside the first two movies is a win in my view!
What say you Mike? In your opinion, potential to beat Alien or Aliens when finished? Or a comfortable 3rd place in your book? 😃
I also love Alien 3 (Assembly Cut, although i would have prefer the dog instead of the ox, since seeing the dog get chestbursted is way more impactful), and i do think that Alien 3 seems to be making some sort of a comeback.
I wasn't born when Alien 3 came out, but when i did see it, i loved it.
Now, Aliens, which i think is the perfect scifi-action movie, is an incredible piece of filmmaking.
Cameron and his crew put in the work in order to expand upon what we saw in the first movie, by introducing Weyland-Yutani, the colonies, the marines and all of the future-tech, not to mention what they did for the future of animatronics and practical effects.
Also, he gave an incredible arc for Ripley.
But part of me feels like he stole some of the more alien parts of the alien and made it more relatable as some sort of space ant/bee.
I don't mind the existence of Queens, but i simply don't want it to be the end of all and be all of the Xeno cycle, but merely one of the manhy ways that it adapts to the universe and its environments, so hopefully, Romulus puts the alien back in the alien akin to what we saw in the first movie and the eggmorphing deleted scene.
Quote from: PortugueseXeno on Jan 04, 2024, 07:16:36 PMI don't mind the existence of Queens, but i simply don't want it to be the end of all and be all of the Xeno cycle, but merely one of the manhy ways that it adapts to the universe and its environments, so hopefully, Romulus puts the alien back in the alien akin to what we saw in the first movie and the eggmorphing deleted scene.
The Queen is not the final stage of the Xenomorph's evolution - that would be the Empress.
Quote from: Slutty Badger on Jan 04, 2024, 08:04:54 PMQuote from: PortugueseXeno on Jan 04, 2024, 07:16:36 PMI don't mind the existence of Queens, but i simply don't want it to be the end of all and be all of the Xeno cycle, but merely one of the manhy ways that it adapts to the universe and its environments, so hopefully, Romulus puts the alien back in the alien akin to what we saw in the first movie and the eggmorphing deleted scene.
The Queen is not the final stage of the Xenomorph's evolution - that would be the Empress.
What can the empress do that the queen can't?
That is expanded universe though, those rules may not apply for the movie continuity.
There is still some new things that can be shown. New hosts, sub species or other versions of Alien bio-weapons. The original draft/script of Prometheus had that the cargo hold had at least two different versions of the Alien. One was traditional and the being the Beluga-morph.
Empress? Is that like the Overmind in Starcraft?😅
(https://s13.gifyu.com/images/SjOBQ.gif)
I mean...A sentient entity that controls all the hives or something👁🕷👁👉👈
Quote from: Local Trouble on Jan 04, 2024, 08:09:49 PMWhat can the empress do that the queen can't?
She's way bigger, and has psionic abilities far in excess of the Queen.
Quote from: The Cruentus on Jan 04, 2024, 08:13:54 PMThat is expanded universe though, those rules may not apply for the movie continuity.
There is still some new things that can be shown. New hosts, sub species or other versions of Alien bio-weapons. The original draft/script of Prometheus had that the cargo hold had at least two different versions of the Alien. One was traditional and the being the Beluga-morph.
I thought the Beluga-morph is like the Neomorph but bigger
(https://i.ibb.co/LzxkRc7/64739-1-PNG.png)
But then there's the sexburster born from Holloway, afetr he was impregnated by an octopus-like facehugher, which was inside some eggs attached to the ceiling of the pyramid's catacombs. In its adult version it was a translucent humanoid monster I think.
(https://i.ibb.co/PDdVWGB/B9-IR1-Uj-Cc-AERhf-O.jpg)
My list of the films from favorite to least featuring the AvP films because they have a Xenomorph in them:
ALIEN: The best. I want more of this.
ALIENS: I feel like only James Cameron can capture the vibe and tone of the film, anything else trying to emulate falls flat.
ALIEN3: I love this one, though, I have to be in the right mood to watch it. Prefer the assembly cut by far, theatrical cut would make it lower if it were the only version I could watch. But as we all know, it's a messy situation with the whole production from start to finish and wonder what could have been.
It starts to flip flop at this point. I often find myself interchanging the rest as time goes on, but here's a rough order:
RESSURECTION: It's whacky and wild. I love some of the ideas, but not the execution. A story set on a crazy scientistic or failed experiment laboratory ship where chaos happens is a fun idea. Love the Ripley 8 torching the clones scene. Love the idea of the Newborn, love the animatronic work on it, but kinda hate the thing too. It's complicated. Movie is a mess, but I kinda love it for the crazy extreme Dark Horse Comics vibes.
COVENANT: I have a complicated relationship with this one, as many probably do. It often falls and rises on the list depending on my mood. It's beautifully shot and I love some of the ideas it has, but it's the overall execution and the slamming the Xeno in at the end that I have issues with.
AvP: If I'm able to watch it for the schlock, I enjoy it. If I take it too seriously, I don't. I want a proper adaptation and I hope that the PREY success, and potential if Romulus is good, gets the buzz up for AvP again. We gotta buy all the tickets, merch, and all the stuff to get that to happen. Especially AvP merch.
PROMETHEUS: Beautifully frustrating movie.
AvP:R: Not a fan. Has a few good moments, even shots if they had more time to breathe (Wolf roaring with the exploding power plant behind him is great, but goes by so fast). Too bad it's so dark on the home release, but still, not a fan. Hate the belly burster shit.
I really can't rank Romulus yet because it was very incomplete. But visually I was enjoying what I saw. There is a TON I still have yet to see though, so I can't speak on the full thing at all. What I hope is that it does what PREY did and makes a solid movie. This one feels like it's doing its own thing, with elements of the first two films, but it's not a copy and pasted vibe. It's really got its own voice, which is Fede's. Each movie really has its own unique style and voice, which is very true for Romulus. Except for maybe Prometheus and Covenant, those two are very close.
Prey is flirting with my top spot for Predator films after more time with it. If Romulus can do that, I'd be very happy. But if it can slot around or even below Alien 3 for me, I'd still be very happy.
Quote from: Mike's Monsters on Jan 04, 2024, 08:38:23 PMI really can't rank Romulus yet because it was very incomplete. But visually I was enjoying what I saw. There is a TON I still have yet to see though, so I can't speak on the full thing at all. What I hope is that it does what PREY did and makes a solid movie. This one feels like it's doing its own thing, with elements of the first two films, but it's not a copy and pasted vibe. It's really got its own voice, which is Fede's. Each movie really has its own unique style and voice, which is very true for Romulus. Except for maybe Prometheus and Covenant, those two are very close.
It is a hallmark of the IP without a doubt, but I think that when it comes to the creature, it is somewhat sacrilege to take away its biomechanical aesthetics. I mean, tell whatever story you want...but the design should have untouchable status, and if you're going to make changes...make them smart, like with Stompy in
Alien Isolation.
Alien³ is great, but I couldn't be more relieved because they took the two original films as a reference and still created a project with its own voice, as you say.😃🙏
Quote from: Slutty Badger on Jan 04, 2024, 08:04:54 PMQuote from: PortugueseXeno on Jan 04, 2024, 07:16:36 PMI don't mind the existence of Queens, but i simply don't want it to be the end of all and be all of the Xeno cycle, but merely one of the manhy ways that it adapts to the universe and its environments, so hopefully, Romulus puts the alien back in the alien akin to what we saw in the first movie and the eggmorphing deleted scene.
The Queen is not the final stage of the Xenomorph's evolution - that would be the Empress.
I know, but i was refering to the movies.
I don't mind the comics and the games, but usually i don't really think of them as canon, besides possibly Isolation.
Quote from: Immortan Jonesy on Jan 04, 2024, 08:50:44 PMIt is a hallmark of the IP without a doubt, but I think that when it comes to the creature, it is somewhat sacrilege to take away its biomechanical aesthetics. I mean, tell whatever story you want...but the design should have untouchable status, and if you're going to make changes...make them smart, like with Stompy in Alien Isolation.
Yeah, true shit.
It's kind of sad that the AvP Xeno is the one the general audience is more familair with, given how much that Xeno is spammed in whatever geek articles there are about the alien franchise, but it is what it is.
To be fair, i was introduced to Alien, because of AvP, which i did love as a child, but now as i got older i see it as schlock, enjoyable schlock, but schlock nonetheless.
But i am confident that Romulus will bring back the biomechanical aspects of the Xeno once again, given Mike's comments, so even though we can expect a new Xeno design, it will probably go back to its Giger roots.
Quote from: Mike's Monsters on Jan 04, 2024, 08:38:23 PMI really can't rank Romulus yet because it was very incomplete. But visually I was enjoying what I saw. There is a TON I still have yet to see though, so I can't speak on the full thing at all. What I hope is that it does what PREY did and makes a solid movie. This one feels like it's doing its own thing, with elements of the first two films, but it's not a copy and pasted vibe. It's really got its own voice, which is Fede's. Each movie really has its own unique style and voice, which is very true for Romulus. Except for maybe Prometheus and Covenant, those two are very close.
Yeah, even though i am not a fan of Resurrection, i have to hand it to every director that has stepped into the franchise for giving it their own special flair.
It makes it easier to watch some of the movies, even the ones that aren't as good or simply straight up bad.
One good thing i can say about Ressurection is that production and visually, it was really good.
The hive never looked better and that Newborn abomination had an incredible animatronic (probably the best animatronic that i have ever seen, simply so expressive).
I am quite excited to see what will be Fede's flair, since i loved Evil Dead and Don't Breathe.
I didn't really like his Spider's Web movie and felt like Fincher's was clearly superior in every way, which is funny because Fincher also directed an Alien movie, which i loved.
It's also interesting to point out, that Fede is the first director in the franchise that actually has a horror-genre background, well, maybe not, depending how you look at Caemeron's first Terminator movie.
Quote from: Immortan Jonesy on Jan 04, 2024, 08:50:44 PMQuote from: Mike's Monsters on Jan 04, 2024, 08:38:23 PMI really can't rank Romulus yet because it was very incomplete. But visually I was enjoying what I saw. There is a TON I still have yet to see though, so I can't speak on the full thing at all. What I hope is that it does what PREY did and makes a solid movie. This one feels like it's doing its own thing, with elements of the first two films, but it's not a copy and pasted vibe. It's really got its own voice, which is Fede's. Each movie really has its own unique style and voice, which is very true for Romulus. Except for maybe Prometheus and Covenant, those two are very close.
It is a hallmark of the IP without a doubt, but I think that when it comes to the creature, it is somewhat sacrilege to take away its biomechanical aesthetics. I mean, tell whatever story you want...but the design should have untouchable status, and if you're going to make changes...make them smart, like with Stompy in Alien Isolation.
Alien³ is great, but I couldn't be more relieved because they took the two original films as a reference and still created a project with its own voice, as you say.😃🙏
I'm pretty nervous regarding what the Alien design/creature effects will look like in Romulus knowing that Alec Gillis is on the project. I'll be the first to sing Studio Gillis' praises if the creature effects are phenomenal, but truth be told, I haven't liked any of ADI's work on the films since Alien 3.
I know a lot of what Odd did was replaced with CGI in Alien: Covenant, but I definitely liked what I saw of their work BTS. Literally the only thing missing from the suit was the bio-mechanical aesthetic. Otherwise, the creature was looking tall, spindly, other-worldly again for the first time since Alien 79 imo. Every other attempt has looked like a short guy in a rubber stunt suit greased to the nines in slime.
Quote from: hamilton_milo on Jan 04, 2024, 09:47:17 PMQuote from: Immortan Jonesy on Jan 04, 2024, 08:50:44 PMQuote from: Mike's Monsters on Jan 04, 2024, 08:38:23 PMI really can't rank Romulus yet because it was very incomplete. But visually I was enjoying what I saw. There is a TON I still have yet to see though, so I can't speak on the full thing at all. What I hope is that it does what PREY did and makes a solid movie. This one feels like it's doing its own thing, with elements of the first two films, but it's not a copy and pasted vibe. It's really got its own voice, which is Fede's. Each movie really has its own unique style and voice, which is very true for Romulus. Except for maybe Prometheus and Covenant, those two are very close.
It is a hallmark of the IP without a doubt, but I think that when it comes to the creature, it is somewhat sacrilege to take away its biomechanical aesthetics. I mean, tell whatever story you want...but the design should have untouchable status, and if you're going to make changes...make them smart, like with Stompy in Alien Isolation.
Alien³ is great, but I couldn't be more relieved because they took the two original films as a reference and still created a project with its own voice, as you say.😃🙏
I'm pretty nervous regarding what the Alien design/creature effects will look like in Romulus knowing that Alec Gillis is on the project. I'll be the first to sing Studio Gillis' praises if the creature effects are phenomenal, but truth be told, I haven't liked any of ADI's work on the films since Alien 3.
I know a lot of what Odd did was replaced with CGI in Alien: Covenant, but I definitely liked what I saw of their work BTS. Literally the only thing missing from the suit was the bio-mechanical aesthetic. Otherwise, the creature was looking tall, spindly, other-worldly again for the first time since Alien 79 imo. Every other attempt has looked like a short guy in a rubber stunt suit greased to the nines in slime.
I don't think ADI are responsible for the design, they only bring the director's intent to life with their practical effects.
But even then, apparently, Legacy Effects, Weta and ADI (Alec Gillis) are all working together, so who knows what will come out of it.
Dane Hallett seems to be the one who designed the Xenomorph for Romulus, but he probably only tried to replicate Fede's vision.
Quote from: hamilton_milo on Jan 04, 2024, 09:47:17 PMQuote from: Immortan Jonesy on Jan 04, 2024, 08:50:44 PMQuote from: Mike's Monsters on Jan 04, 2024, 08:38:23 PMI really can't rank Romulus yet because it was very incomplete. But visually I was enjoying what I saw. There is a TON I still have yet to see though, so I can't speak on the full thing at all. What I hope is that it does what PREY did and makes a solid movie. This one feels like it's doing its own thing, with elements of the first two films, but it's not a copy and pasted vibe. It's really got its own voice, which is Fede's. Each movie really has its own unique style and voice, which is very true for Romulus. Except for maybe Prometheus and Covenant, those two are very close.
It is a hallmark of the IP without a doubt, but I think that when it comes to the creature, it is somewhat sacrilege to take away its biomechanical aesthetics. I mean, tell whatever story you want...but the design should have untouchable status, and if you're going to make changes...make them smart, like with Stompy in Alien Isolation.
Alien³ is great, but I couldn't be more relieved because they took the two original films as a reference and still created a project with its own voice, as you say.😃🙏
I'm pretty nervous regarding what the Alien design/creature effects will look like in Romulus knowing that Alec Gillis is on the project. I'll be the first to sing Studio Gillis' praises if the creature effects are phenomenal, but truth be told, I haven't liked any of ADI's work on the films since Alien 3.
I know a lot of what Odd did was replaced with CGI in Alien: Covenant, but I definitely liked what I saw of their work BTS. Literally the only thing missing from the suit was the bio-mechanical aesthetic. Otherwise, the creature was looking tall, spindly, other-worldly again for the first time since Alien 79 imo. Every other attempt has looked like a short guy in a rubber stunt suit greased to the nines in slime.
You have to remember that effects studios are at the whim of the director. ADI are great at what they do and capable of pulling a good looking bio-mechanical alien but unfortunately they have to go with what the directors want.
Quote from: PortugueseXeno on Jan 04, 2024, 09:52:47 PMQuote from: hamilton_milo on Jan 04, 2024, 09:47:17 PMQuote from: Immortan Jonesy on Jan 04, 2024, 08:50:44 PMQuote from: Mike's Monsters on Jan 04, 2024, 08:38:23 PMI really can't rank Romulus yet because it was very incomplete. But visually I was enjoying what I saw. There is a TON I still have yet to see though, so I can't speak on the full thing at all. What I hope is that it does what PREY did and makes a solid movie. This one feels like it's doing its own thing, with elements of the first two films, but it's not a copy and pasted vibe. It's really got its own voice, which is Fede's. Each movie really has its own unique style and voice, which is very true for Romulus. Except for maybe Prometheus and Covenant, those two are very close.
It is a hallmark of the IP without a doubt, but I think that when it comes to the creature, it is somewhat sacrilege to take away its biomechanical aesthetics. I mean, tell whatever story you want...but the design should have untouchable status, and if you're going to make changes...make them smart, like with Stompy in Alien Isolation.
Alien³ is great, but I couldn't be more relieved because they took the two original films as a reference and still created a project with its own voice, as you say.😃🙏
I'm pretty nervous regarding what the Alien design/creature effects will look like in Romulus knowing that Alec Gillis is on the project. I'll be the first to sing Studio Gillis' praises if the creature effects are phenomenal, but truth be told, I haven't liked any of ADI's work on the films since Alien 3.
I know a lot of what Odd did was replaced with CGI in Alien: Covenant, but I definitely liked what I saw of their work BTS. Literally the only thing missing from the suit was the bio-mechanical aesthetic. Otherwise, the creature was looking tall, spindly, other-worldly again for the first time since Alien 79 imo. Every other attempt has looked like a short guy in a rubber stunt suit greased to the nines in slime.
I don't think ADI as responsible for the design, they only bring the director's intent to life with their practical effects.
But even then, apparently, Legacy Effects, Weta and ADI (Alec Gillis) are all working together, so who knows what will come out of it.
Dane Hallett seems to be the one designed the Xenomorph for Romulus, but he probably only tried to replicate Fede's vision.
Yeah that. Studios like ADI don't have much creative freedom really. They are just there to fulfil what is envisioned by the higher ups.
Quote from: PortugueseXeno on Jan 04, 2024, 09:52:47 PMQuote from: hamilton_milo on Jan 04, 2024, 09:47:17 PMQuote from: Immortan Jonesy on Jan 04, 2024, 08:50:44 PMQuote from: Mike's Monsters on Jan 04, 2024, 08:38:23 PMI really can't rank Romulus yet because it was very incomplete. But visually I was enjoying what I saw. There is a TON I still have yet to see though, so I can't speak on the full thing at all. What I hope is that it does what PREY did and makes a solid movie. This one feels like it's doing its own thing, with elements of the first two films, but it's not a copy and pasted vibe. It's really got its own voice, which is Fede's. Each movie really has its own unique style and voice, which is very true for Romulus. Except for maybe Prometheus and Covenant, those two are very close.
It is a hallmark of the IP without a doubt, but I think that when it comes to the creature, it is somewhat sacrilege to take away its biomechanical aesthetics. I mean, tell whatever story you want...but the design should have untouchable status, and if you're going to make changes...make them smart, like with Stompy in Alien Isolation.
Alien³ is great, but I couldn't be more relieved because they took the two original films as a reference and still created a project with its own voice, as you say.😃🙏
I'm pretty nervous regarding what the Alien design/creature effects will look like in Romulus knowing that Alec Gillis is on the project. I'll be the first to sing Studio Gillis' praises if the creature effects are phenomenal, but truth be told, I haven't liked any of ADI's work on the films since Alien 3.
I know a lot of what Odd did was replaced with CGI in Alien: Covenant, but I definitely liked what I saw of their work BTS. Literally the only thing missing from the suit was the bio-mechanical aesthetic. Otherwise, the creature was looking tall, spindly, other-worldly again for the first time since Alien 79 imo. Every other attempt has looked like a short guy in a rubber stunt suit greased to the nines in slime.
I don't think ADI are responsible for the design, they only bring the director's intent to life with their practical effects.
But even then, apparently, Legacy Effects, Weta and ADI (Alec Gillis) are all working together, so who knows what will come out of it.
Dane Hallett seems to be the one who designed the Xenomorph for Romulus, but he probably only tried to replicate Fede's vision.
Yeah, I know. We'll just have to wait and see right! Obviously the drip feedings Mike's Monsters is giving us are encouraging, but aye, until we see the thing ourselves who knows what they've cooked up. All part of the hype I guess, for better or worse.
Quote from: hamilton_milo on Jan 04, 2024, 10:28:18 PMQuote from: PortugueseXeno on Jan 04, 2024, 09:52:47 PMQuote from: hamilton_milo on Jan 04, 2024, 09:47:17 PMQuote from: Immortan Jonesy on Jan 04, 2024, 08:50:44 PMQuote from: Mike's Monsters on Jan 04, 2024, 08:38:23 PMI really can't rank Romulus yet because it was very incomplete. But visually I was enjoying what I saw. There is a TON I still have yet to see though, so I can't speak on the full thing at all. What I hope is that it does what PREY did and makes a solid movie. This one feels like it's doing its own thing, with elements of the first two films, but it's not a copy and pasted vibe. It's really got its own voice, which is Fede's. Each movie really has its own unique style and voice, which is very true for Romulus. Except for maybe Prometheus and Covenant, those two are very close.
It is a hallmark of the IP without a doubt, but I think that when it comes to the creature, it is somewhat sacrilege to take away its biomechanical aesthetics. I mean, tell whatever story you want...but the design should have untouchable status, and if you're going to make changes...make them smart, like with Stompy in Alien Isolation.
Alien³ is great, but I couldn't be more relieved because they took the two original films as a reference and still created a project with its own voice, as you say.😃🙏
I'm pretty nervous regarding what the Alien design/creature effects will look like in Romulus knowing that Alec Gillis is on the project. I'll be the first to sing Studio Gillis' praises if the creature effects are phenomenal, but truth be told, I haven't liked any of ADI's work on the films since Alien 3.
I know a lot of what Odd did was replaced with CGI in Alien: Covenant, but I definitely liked what I saw of their work BTS. Literally the only thing missing from the suit was the bio-mechanical aesthetic. Otherwise, the creature was looking tall, spindly, other-worldly again for the first time since Alien 79 imo. Every other attempt has looked like a short guy in a rubber stunt suit greased to the nines in slime.
I don't think ADI are responsible for the design, they only bring the director's intent to life with their practical effects.
But even then, apparently, Legacy Effects, Weta and ADI (Alec Gillis) are all working together, so who knows what will come out of it.
Dane Hallett seems to be the one who designed the Xenomorph for Romulus, but he probably only tried to replicate Fede's vision.
Yeah, I know. We'll just have to wait and see right! Obviously the drip feedings Mike's Monsters is giving us are encouraging, but aye, until we see the thing ourselves who knows what they've cooked up. All part of the hype I guess, for better or worse.
Yeah, Mike is being pretty cool when it comes to his "hints".
It helps the community/fanbase feel sort of alive, instead of simply getting out of the cryosleep once the trailer is released and then going back to sleep again until a new trailer is released, rinse and repeat, till the movie comes.
I really can't wait for the first tease to be released and finally take a peek at the new movie.
Dane isn't the sole designer of the Xenomorph on Romulus or anything. He's part of a team. He probably designed a section or two, like the hands or chest or something, but not the whole creature. It doesn't really work that way, especially when there are multiple teams on this one.
I can't go into details but Alec isn't running the show like it would be if it were just ADI doing the effects. There are a lot of special effect houses combined to bring this one and the crazy practical effects to life.
Quote from: PortugueseXeno on Jan 04, 2024, 07:16:36 PMQuote from: Acid_Reign161 on Jan 04, 2024, 07:09:33 PMQuote from: PortugueseXeno on Jan 04, 2024, 06:52:37 PMQuote from: Acid_Reign161 on Jan 04, 2024, 06:24:07 PMQuote from: Mike's Monsters on Jan 03, 2024, 11:27:35 PMIt's a blessing and a curse. I still haven't seen the whole thing yet, but I saw pre-CGI stuff and part of me wishes I'd just been able to see the final product for that to be my first experience. But it's also interesting seeing it come together bit by bit.
Ok, without giving away anything, based on what you saw, where would you rank Romulus against the other Alien movies? 😃
Damn, you are going right for the jugular.
I don't want to speak over Mike or something, but in case he doesn't respond quickly or is busy, i'll just tell you what he wrote in some previous comments.
He isn't the biggest fan of the prequels and Romulus seems to capture the feel of Alien, Aliens (and Alien Isolation), so unless he is an Alien 3 fan, he will probably put Romulus as his 3rd... unless, it's crazy good and is somehow a better movie than Aliens.
He probably won't give you any spoilers though.
That's good enough for me 😁👍
I mean I know opinions are subjective (for example I rank Alien 3 very highly and I'm aware I'm in the (awesome 😎) minority here; but hearing from someone who has seen parts of it who is passionate about the first two movies, and feels it could potentially sit alongside the first two movies is a win in my view!
What say you Mike? In your opinion, potential to beat Alien or Aliens when finished? Or a comfortable 3rd place in your book? 😃
I also love Alien 3 (Assembly Cut, although i would have prefer the dog instead of the ox, since seeing the dog get chestbursted is way more impactful), and i do think that Alien 3 seems to be making some sort of a comeback.
I wasn't born when Alien 3 came out, but when i did see it, i loved it.
Now, Aliens, which i think is the perfect scifi-action movie, is an incredible piece of filmmaking.
Cameron and his crew put in the work in order to expand upon what we saw in the first movie, by introducing Weyland-Yutani, the colonies, the marines and all of the future-tech, not to mention what they did for the future of animatronics and practical effects.
Also, he gave an incredible arc for Ripley.
But part of me feels like he stole some of the more alien parts of the alien and made it more relatable as some sort of space ant/bee.
I don't mind the existence of Queens, but i simply don't want it to be the end of all and be all of the Xeno cycle, but merely one of the manhy ways that it adapts to the universe and its environments, so hopefully, Romulus puts the alien back in the alien akin to what we saw in the first movie and the eggmorphing deleted scene.
I think Cameron was only following through from what happened in the first movie. That is, continue making W-Y the antagonist. But because audiences already saw the alien, then it was pointless to repeat that. Hence, "aliens" (plural), which would have made it an action movie.
He said in his commentary that he grew up during the Vietnam War, read about colonialism in school, and only a few years before he wrote
Aliens read about companies exploiting the poor in other countries. That's why he decided to use the military in the movie, to reflect what was happening in reality, with the military/government colluding with powerful corporations.
Also, I think Cameron isn't so much interested in making action movies but in telling stories, which is why his favorite movies depict that:
https://www.indiewire.com/gallery/james-cameron-favorite-movies-director-good-reviews-recommendations/inception-from-left-leonardo-dicaprio-ellen-page-2010-ph-melissa-moseley-warner-bros-courtes/
and the only way to make this action movie what he wanted was to bring back Ripley's character. There are some interesting points about that here:
http://alienexplorations.blogspot.com/1986/11/aliens-signing-up-weaver.html
which I think revealed that Weaver laughed off a sequel for the first movie, and signed on only because Cameron pretended that without her character he would make a lead played by Arnold Schwarzenegger. In addition, it turns out that Weaver is liberal such that she prefers storytelling and dislikes guns. Later, Cameron would say similar things by cutting away scenes from his second
Avatar movie because he doesn't want gun violence "fetishized":
https://ew.com/movies/james-cameron-cut-10-minutes-of-gun-violence-avatar-2/
This might explain why the main action in
Aliens takes place after something like half of the movie is shown. That means much of the movie is actually character development, exposition, etc.
About the hive, it looks like it made sense that if there are things like eggs and multiple aliens, then the creature was like a bee, which would mean some queen laying eggs. Also, the queen alien would serve as another counter to Ripley's character, which is also a mother trying to protect Newt.
From there, one can also see what happened in the third and fourth movies, with the third that was supposed to end Ripley's story and the fourth which I think started expanding the franchise in various directions but didn't succeed storywise.
I think that plus the prequels is what hemmed producers in, which is why the new movie and TV show are set within or before the four movies, with the new movie looking like a spinoff involving thieves and aliens (it's like that recent movie about thieves and zombies) and the TV show about not just the alien but also AI, technology, etc. (because with TV shows one has to move in various directions in order to show more episodes).
Quote from: Mike's Monsters on Jan 04, 2024, 11:13:46 PMDane isn't the sole designer of the Xenomorph on Romulus or anything. He's part of a team. He probably designed a section or two, like the hands or chest or something, but not the whole creature. It doesn't really work that way, especially when there are multiple teams on this one.
Interesting.
Given his comments on facebook, where he wrote that he would "unleash biomechanical hell" after the theatrical release of the movie, to me that implied that he would release all of the concept art related to the creatures of Romulus.
But apparently, it's more complex than that.
Him not designing the whole thing doesn't mean he didn't do a shitload of designs, mind.
Quote from: Mike's Monsters on Jan 04, 2024, 11:13:46 PMcrazy practical effects to life
Crazy practical effects?
Liked the way you phrased it.
Intriguing.
Very rarely is it one sole person designing a creature or effect these days. Things like the Xenomorph are a huge collaborative project. I know people who've designed specific parts of the beast and know for a fact it wasn't Dane who designed the whole thing. He got a lot of deserved praise from Covenant, but Dane definitely works as part of a team. He may pitch a design as final, but he might only have chunks of the design used and the rest of the team or another effects house does the other stuff.
That's not to say Dane wasn't hand picked for his great work from previous movies, but I think Perfect Organism hypes him up a bit more than others because he's kind of buddies with them. They have painted a picture that he's running the show a bit, but that's certainly not the case. He's likely involved just as much as the rest of the team he's a part of, they're just not as publicly vocal about it.
And crazy practical effects to me just means well done. I think the Newborn is a crazy practical effect in my way of describing things. The face on it is so well executed.
Quote from: Mike's Monsters on Jan 05, 2024, 04:10:51 PMAnd crazy practical effects to me just means well done. I think the Newborn is a crazy practical effect in my way of describing things. The face on it is so well executed.
For all of the bad stuff that plagues Alien Ressurection, the production of the movie is beautiful.
The sets are incredible and the Newborn animatronic is probably the best animatronic that i have ever seen.
The Newborn looked so real and expressive. Truly remarkable.
I guess, it kind of helps that it had a face with human traits, but it's still pretty impressive, so i can't wait to see what this new Xeno looks like.
My prediction is that the Xeno in Romulus will also be a similar animatronic, a tall and imposing creature like Stompy in Isolation.
Quote from: Mike's Monsters on Jan 05, 2024, 04:10:51 PMThat's not to say Dane wasn't hand picked for his great work from previous movies, but I think Perfect Organism hypes him up a bit more than others because he's kind of buddies with them. They have painted a picture that he's running the show a bit, but that's certainly not the case. He's likely involved just as much as the rest of the team he's a part of, they're just not as publicly vocal about it
Yeah, i remember you saying that once, but i merely refer to Dane, since it's easier to mention that when it comes to who is working behind the Xeno.
The other concept artista are currently unknown, so there isn't much that i can say about them, but given your comments, i am sure that they did a damn good job.
The alien design has gotten more generic with each iteration since A3. that was the last excellent design. It's all downhill from there. Incorporating more elements from creatures on earth just waters it down. Like the iguana tails and fleshiness. I'm still not a big fan of digitigrade legs either or those terrible hands. If I recall, the hands started going off the rails with Aliens though.
Just improve the articulation on the original big chap fingers with modern tech.
In fairness the Alien rez design does fit for the creatures of that particular movie since they are mutants, not true Aliens. The usages of that design after that though didn't have such excuse.
they're mutants but why did they look more cockroach-like rather than.. more human like.
the design language was off in those designs...
by a thousand light years.
When jimbo called it "the one with the shit creature design" he was right.
Correct. The mutant aspect is fine to play some. They just didn't play well.
I also can't wait to see more of the sets, the actors and how they look, their clothes, etc.
We already had a tease on Alien Day, with a pic that made us all think of Alien Isolation.
The leaks from PerfectOrganism already mentioned the main setting of the story being a space station, so besides the vents, it probably won't feel as claustrophobic as a spaceship setting, but either way, can't wait to see more from it.
The behind the scenes videos from this movie will probably be really cool.
Quote from: PortugueseXeno on Jan 06, 2024, 08:54:29 PMThe behind the scenes videos from this movie will probably be really cool.
Oh I love that kind of stuff as well :)
I miss the Charles de Lauzirika's making-off docus, but it is always a pleasure to see Alien behind the scenes material.
I wonder if Charles is on this one?
I don't think he does BTS docs any more.
Quote from: TheBATMAN on Jan 06, 2024, 10:13:00 PMI wonder if Charles is on this one?
He's not. I talked to him about it last year and he kinda made it seem like the Prometheus one was his last. He's also focused on directing features over documentaries, but is still doing the docs.
The production design might look like that of the prequels and atmosphere probably like the one about the thieves stealing things from zombie-infested Vegas.
Given that, they can probably do anything if it's like a spinoff, i.e., set between the first two movies but don't provide any relevant content to either.
The production design is certainly more like ALIEN & ALIENS than anything from the prequels from what I've seen behind the scenes and of the film itself. I don't think it's set to be as visually stunning as the prequels with sweeping landscapes and such, but the tech, look and vibe felt closer to the first two films. But also with a touch of fresh and new things too, since the movie is being made with todays modern filmmaking technology.
I've heard vague tidbits here and there and my biggest expectation is the violence.. Fede Alvarez knows how to be brutal so I expect some pretty vicious kills 8)
Quote from: Mike's Monsters on Jan 07, 2024, 02:33:21 AMThe production design is certainly more like ALIEN & ALIENS than anything from the prequels from what I've seen behind the scenes and of the film itself. I don't think it's set to be as visually stunning as the prequels with sweeping landscapes and such, but the tech, look and vibe felt closer to the first two films. But also with a touch of fresh and new things too, since the movie is being made with todays modern filmmaking technology.
Well, since Romulus takes place after
Alien and before
Aliens, I'd think it'd be only logical that the aesthetic more or less reflects that time period.
Quote from: MudButt on Jan 07, 2024, 06:56:05 AMI've heard vague tidbits here and there and my biggest expectation is the violence.. Fede Alvarez knows how to be brutal so I expect some pretty vicious kills 8)
Well, Fede's horror movies have all been pretty mean to its characters.
You just know that characters in Romulus will end up being in a really bad spot.
It will probably be really gorey too.
Quote from: Mike's Monsters on Jan 07, 2024, 02:33:21 AMBut also with a touch of fresh and new things too, since the movie is being made with todays modern filmmaking technology.
And even then, the original Alien movie holds up really well when it comes to filmmaking.
It's timeless as far as i am concerned and looks like it was made today.
Most Ridley Scott and James Cameron movies have this feel.
I am interested how Fede Alvarez's direction and Olivares's cinematography will compare with them.
Scott was a fan of landscape shots and epic vistas, but Romulus seems to be a more isolated and claustrophobic.
Screen Rant made a post on twitter about the film having a young cast and the anti-woke morons are all coming out of the woodwork already lmao
Nothing wrong with a young cast but lets be honest, both woke and anti-woke can be morons. Films should just be films, entertainment. ;D
Quote from: MudButt on Jan 07, 2024, 06:56:05 AMI've heard vague tidbits here and there and my biggest expectation is the violence..
Anything more you can share without being spoilery?
Quote from: PortugueseXeno on Jan 07, 2024, 07:38:18 PMQuote from: MudButt on Jan 07, 2024, 06:56:05 AMI've heard vague tidbits here and there and my biggest expectation is the violence..
Anything more you can share without being spoilery?
Oh I don't have any scoops. On a Discord server for a podcast one of the hosts who has connections to the franchise creatives just said he's been told this movie is lean & mean. No big additions to lore like the prequels, it's just an alien (or aliens?) out to rip some folks apart.
Quote from: MudButt on Jan 07, 2024, 09:08:35 PM(or aliens?)
Now that you mention, i have a feeling that this movie will play out like Alien Isolation.
The marketing will make it seem like there is only one Xeno running around, but then there will be a twist that there are more Xenos running around and the possibility of there even being a nest.
Quote from: MudButt on Jan 07, 2024, 09:08:35 PMQuote from: PortugueseXeno on Jan 07, 2024, 07:38:18 PMQuote from: MudButt on Jan 07, 2024, 06:56:05 AMI've heard vague tidbits here and there and my biggest expectation is the violence..
Anything more you can share without being spoilery?
Oh I don't have any scoops. On a Discord server for a podcast one of the hosts who has connections to the franchise creatives just said he's been told this movie is lean & mean. No big additions to lore like the prequels, it's just an alien (or aliens?) out to rip some folks apart.
This is accurate. Lean and mean, right to the point. No crazy expansions to lore or anything. There's going to be new stuff, there always is in a new movie. But it's not going to be like Covenant and Prometheus in terms of additions.
Quote from: Mike's Monsters on Jan 07, 2024, 09:32:22 PMThis is accurate. Lean and mean, right to the point.
That seems like a Fede Alvarez movie alright.
Evil Dead and Don't Breathe were really mean to its characters, so add potential acid injuries and chestbursters into the mix and these youngsters are in for a bad time.
Fede Alvarez loves to flex his practical gore effects, so a brutal acid injury is pretty much confirmed as far as i am concerned.
Quote from: Mike's Monsters on Jan 07, 2024, 09:32:22 PMQuote from: MudButt on Jan 07, 2024, 09:08:35 PMQuote from: PortugueseXeno on Jan 07, 2024, 07:38:18 PMQuote from: MudButt on Jan 07, 2024, 06:56:05 AMI've heard vague tidbits here and there and my biggest expectation is the violence..
Anything more you can share without being spoilery?
Oh I don't have any scoops. On a Discord server for a podcast one of the hosts who has connections to the franchise creatives just said he's been told this movie is lean & mean. No big additions to lore like the prequels, it's just an alien (or aliens?) out to rip some folks apart.
This is accurate. Lean and mean, right to the point. No crazy expansions to lore or anything. There's going to be new stuff, there always is in a new movie. But it's not going to be like Covenant and Prometheus in terms of additions.
That's what I like to hear (or read)! I just want our favorite Xeno doing what it does best. Fede Álvarez is a good director and is especially vicious with the violence and horror.
Quote from: MudButt on Jan 07, 2024, 10:46:06 PMQuote from: Mike's Monsters on Jan 07, 2024, 09:32:22 PMQuote from: MudButt on Jan 07, 2024, 09:08:35 PMQuote from: PortugueseXeno on Jan 07, 2024, 07:38:18 PMQuote from: MudButt on Jan 07, 2024, 06:56:05 AMI've heard vague tidbits here and there and my biggest expectation is the violence..
Anything more you can share without being spoilery?
Oh I don't have any scoops. On a Discord server for a podcast one of the hosts who has connections to the franchise creatives just said he's been told this movie is lean & mean. No big additions to lore like the prequels, it's just an alien (or aliens?) out to rip some folks apart.
This is accurate. Lean and mean, right to the point. No crazy expansions to lore or anything. There's going to be new stuff, there always is in a new movie. But it's not going to be like Covenant and Prometheus in terms of additions.
That's what I like to hear (or read)! I just want our favorite Xeno doing what it does best. Fede Álvarez is a good director and is especially vicious with the violence and horror.
Yup.
Not only that, but with Don't Breathe and Evil Dead he has also shown to be able to handle claustrophobic environments and the thrills that come with it.
But i do wonder how the tone of this movie will be.
Aliens was quite different than Alien in tone, then Alien 3 became more character drama centered and Resurrection felt even more "different", to say the least.
Prometheus had a lot of dark elements, but the tone of the movie also had some light to it.
Covenant had a good tone to it, it was incredibly bleak, so i can see Romulus having that same tone, if not even darker.
As dark as black coffee please!
As long as the dark is not to do with the lighting like avpr lol :laugh:
Never seen avpr :)
Quote from: Ingwar on Jan 08, 2024, 02:11:56 PMNever seen avpr :)
Me neither. We're the cool kids. :laugh:
Quote from: The Cruentus on Jan 08, 2024, 01:04:42 PMAs long as the dark is not to do with the lighting like avpr lol :laugh:
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Not that I'm one to defend AvPR...but it was the colour grading, not the lighting.
Both really.
Quote from: Ingwar on Jan 08, 2024, 02:11:56 PMNever seen avpr :)
Truth be told, though many have heard AVPR from beginning to end, none have truly seen it.
Do any of you guys and gals have any experience with the works of the Romulus actors?
Cailee Spaeny is the bigger star and has some good projects on her name (minus Pacific Rim hahaha), not to mention that Priscilla has gotten an acclaimed reception and Civil War had good test screenings.
I also remember Isabella Merced from the Transformers: The Last Knight and Sicario 2 (she was quite good here).
There is also one guy that was a part of Shadow and Bone, that is quite frankly YA trash (it does have an interesting setting though), but the actor played its part well.
The rest are all strangers to me.
Spaeny is excellent in Priscilla and also had a very good part in Devs. Looking forward to Civil War. I've basically forgotten Pacific Rim: Uprising entirely.
Spike Fearn has a credit in The Batman as a vandal, but I'd be lying if I said I could look back and point back at which one was him.
As long as the characters don't behave as stupidly as the Covenant and Prometheus characters, that will already be a step up. So young, old, inbetween etc as long as the characters have good depth to them and are well written, then I think it will be decent.
Quote from: Corporal Hicks on Jan 08, 2024, 03:51:28 PMQuote from: The Cruentus on Jan 08, 2024, 01:04:42 PMAs long as the dark is not to do with the lighting like avpr lol :laugh:
https://i.pinimg.com/originals/13/a1/be/13a1be8d2281743a7808e2b9ed83ca60.gif
Not that I'm one to defend AvPR...but it was the colour grading, not the lighting.
Not to start a back and forth, but when I had a chance to talk to Dan Zimmerman back in 2014, he specifically mentioned how the dailies would essentially come in pitch black, and the color grading is the only thing that made it watchable. They even had to have certain scenes enhanced just to be able to see anything at all.
Quote from: The Cruentus on Jan 08, 2024, 08:40:30 PMSo young, old, inbetween etc as long as the characters have good depth to them and are well written, then I think it will be decent
There have been rumors that alude to the characters being either a salvage crew or a bunch of youngsters from a dead-end colony that want to score big in a derelict Weyland-Yutani vessel as a way to buy a ticket off-world or something like that.
I feel like, if they are a salvage crew, then they are all a little too young for it.
Or hell, maybe, it's a mix of both.
It depends if they are working for an older employer, some employers do hire younglings either as work experience or minimum wage work, maybe its their first gig or something.
Quote from: Predalien39 on Jan 08, 2024, 09:28:02 PMQuote from: Corporal Hicks on Jan 08, 2024, 03:51:28 PMQuote from: The Cruentus on Jan 08, 2024, 01:04:42 PMAs long as the dark is not to do with the lighting like avpr lol :laugh:
https://i.pinimg.com/originals/13/a1/be/13a1be8d2281743a7808e2b9ed83ca60.gif
Not that I'm one to defend AvPR...but it was the colour grading, not the lighting.
Not to start a back and forth, but when I had a chance to talk to Dan Zimmerman back in 2014, he specifically mentioned how the dailies would essentially come in pitch black, and the color grading is the only thing that made it watchable. They even had to have certain scenes enhanced just to be able to see anything at all.
There's video of Pearl complaining about a shot being underexposed while shooting the Alien coming through the window to kill Molly's dad.
Given Pearl is a fairly experienced DP I wonder if it was the Bros demanding things be so dark.
Quote from: The Cruentus on Jan 08, 2024, 10:01:07 PMIt depends if they are working for an older employer, some employers do hire younglings either as work experience or minimum wage work, maybe its their first gig or something.
True, but a young salvage crew?
That seems like the type of job for a more mature and experienced bunch.
But everything depends on the context, and you are also right about there being older employers hiring young people (employees) in order to explore them, which is fairly accurate to this franchise.
But screw it, it's the future and space is no longer the final frontier, so who knows how quickly people have to adapt and mature in this new environment.
It's like the young mercs (well, mostly young) in the fourth movie. But I'm still reminded of that recent thieves vs. zombies film.
Quote from: ralfy on Jan 09, 2024, 12:54:30 AMIt's like the young mercs (well, mostly young) in the fourth movie. But I'm still reminded of that recent thieves vs. zombies film.
The only youngster in the crew of Alien 4 was Cal, and even then she was a robot.
All the others were not young.
Quote from: Predalien39 on Jan 08, 2024, 09:28:02 PMQuote from: Corporal Hicks on Jan 08, 2024, 03:51:28 PMQuote from: The Cruentus on Jan 08, 2024, 01:04:42 PMAs long as the dark is not to do with the lighting like avpr lol :laugh:
https://i.pinimg.com/originals/13/a1/be/13a1be8d2281743a7808e2b9ed83ca60.gif
Not that I'm one to defend AvPR...but it was the colour grading, not the lighting.
Not to start a back and forth, but when I had a chance to talk to Dan Zimmerman back in 2014, he specifically mentioned how the dailies would essentially come in pitch black, and the color grading is the only thing that made it watchable. They even had to have certain scenes enhanced just to be able to see anything at all.
That would have been a serious failure on the part of the cinematographer (which I doubt) and he should have been fired immediately.
The Strauss Bros. claim that the East coast prints were different to the West coast prints. Supposedly the West coast prints were actually watchable. Reportedly the wrong print was subsequently also transferred to DVD which also sounds sketchy.
Requiem was dark AF, which kinda sucks, because some of the sets of the hive actually looked pretty good when shown in the behind the scenes stuff.
Quote from: PortugueseXeno on Jan 09, 2024, 09:18:04 AMQuote from: ralfy on Jan 09, 2024, 12:54:30 AMIt's like the young mercs (well, mostly young) in the fourth movie. But I'm still reminded of that recent thieves vs. zombies film.
The only youngster in the crew of Alien 4 was Cal, and even then she was a robot.
All the others were not young.
I wasn't referring to age but to looks. I think Call, Hillard, and even Elgyn looked young.
Michael Wincott has never looked young. He was born looking 30 with the voice of a heavy smoker.
And he was 39 when the movie was released.
Further proof Ralfy has not seen the movies.
Quote from: ralfy on Jan 10, 2024, 02:02:55 AMQuote from: PortugueseXeno on Jan 09, 2024, 09:18:04 AMQuote from: ralfy on Jan 09, 2024, 12:54:30 AMIt's like the young mercs (well, mostly young) in the fourth movie. But I'm still reminded of that recent thieves vs. zombies film.
The only youngster in the crew of Alien 4 was Cal, and even then she was a robot.
All the others were not young.
I wasn't referring to age but to looks. I think Call, Hillard, and even Elgyn looked young.
Looks-wise, they mostly looked mature and aged.
Quote from: PortugueseXeno on Jan 10, 2024, 11:43:01 AMQuote from: ralfy on Jan 10, 2024, 02:02:55 AMQuote from: PortugueseXeno on Jan 09, 2024, 09:18:04 AMQuote from: ralfy on Jan 09, 2024, 12:54:30 AMIt's like the young mercs (well, mostly young) in the fourth movie. But I'm still reminded of that recent thieves vs. zombies film.
The only youngster in the crew of Alien 4 was Cal, and even then she was a robot.
All the others were not young.
I wasn't referring to age but to looks. I think Call, Hillard, and even Elgyn looked young.
Looks-wise, they mostly looked mature and aged.
The point is that you need to compare that to the first movie, and the prequels to the fourth one.
Quote from: ralfy on Jan 11, 2024, 12:38:30 AMThe point is that you need to compare that to the first movie, and the prequels to the fourth one.
...what.
I speak "crazy person" after a crazy man killed my parents and left a strange mark in my forehead when i was a baby.
I speak ralfytongue.
And what he means is that the cast of the 79 movie had the worst teeth out of any alien cast.
I'm kind of new here, but is it just me or do people seem to have some sort of problem with ralfy?
Let's not go off topic with that one Portuguese :)
Quote from: skhellter on Jan 11, 2024, 02:16:55 PMAnd what he means is that the cast of the 79 movie had the worst teeth out of any alien cast.
That's a bold statement given Alien 3 had so many Poms.
Quote from: Mike's Monsters on Jan 07, 2024, 09:32:22 PMThere's going to be new stuff, there always is in a new movie.
This makes me thing that Fede will introduce something new to the Xeno life cycle, which i think Noah Hawley also wanted to do with his TV series.
The original movie is the original, so it layed the foundation for the creature and also introduced the facehugger and eggmorphing (if you count the deleted scenes).
Aliens introduced the Queen and the Hive castes.
Alien 3 made the Xenos copy certain characteristics of its host.
Alien 4 introduced cloning, hybrids and french humor.
The prequels (if you choose to see them as canon) introduced the black goo.
Im not so sure, given it's setting between the first two films. Let's just go back to basics.
You are not going to find a better creature design, so the trick is to make the beast scary again, rather than attempting something new just for the sake of it.
Quote from: TheBATMAN on Jan 11, 2024, 05:17:28 PMIm not so sure, given it's setting between the first two films. Let's just go back to basics.
You are not going to find a better creature design, so the trick is to make the beast scary again, rather than attempting something new just for the sake of it.
My comment wasn't really in regards to it being a new bigger or badder Xeno, but more along the lines of giving the Xeno a new "alien" characteristic that makes it feel like an "alien" again.
As long as what is new doesn't mess with the lore, then it should not be too much of a problem.
Quote from: TheBATMAN on Jan 11, 2024, 05:17:28 PMIm not so sure, given it's setting between the first two films. Let's just go back to basics.
You are not going to find a better creature design, so the trick is to make the beast scary again, rather than attempting something new just for the sake of it.
"Something new" can lead to things being scary if they're done right. Case in point, Aliens Labyrinth.
Just bring back eggmorphing and I'll be a happy man 😃
Quote from: Xenomrph on Jan 11, 2024, 10:42:49 PMQuote from: TheBATMAN on Jan 11, 2024, 05:17:28 PMIm not so sure, given it's setting between the first two films. Let's just go back to basics.
You are not going to find a better creature design, so the trick is to make the beast scary again, rather than attempting something new just for the sake of it.
"Something new" can lead to things being scary if they're done right. Case in point, Aliens Labyrinth.
Yes but Resurrection, AVPR, Promethus and Covenant is suggestive that it is very rare something new is done right. Romulus just needs to be a back to basics thriller. 'Something new' can be a problem for the next one following its hopeful success.
Quote from: TheBATMAN on Jan 12, 2024, 09:44:38 AMYes but Resurrection, AVPR, Promethus and Covenant is suggestive that it is very rare something new is done right. Romulus just needs to be a back to basics thriller. 'Something new' can be a problem for the next one following its hopeful success.
Technically speaking, AVPR is not an
Alien movie.
Quote from: TheBATMAN on Jan 12, 2024, 09:44:38 AMQuote from: Xenomrph on Jan 11, 2024, 10:42:49 PMQuote from: TheBATMAN on Jan 11, 2024, 05:17:28 PMIm not so sure, given it's setting between the first two films. Let's just go back to basics.
You are not going to find a better creature design, so the trick is to make the beast scary again, rather than attempting something new just for the sake of it.
"Something new" can lead to things being scary if they're done right. Case in point, Aliens Labyrinth.
Yes but Resurrection, AVPR, Promethus and Covenant is suggestive that it is very rare something new is done right. Romulus just needs to be a back to basics thriller. 'Something new' can be a problem for the next one following its hopeful success.
The obvious solution is to just adapt Aliens Labyrinth.
Quote from: Slutty Badger on Jan 12, 2024, 11:14:25 AMQuote from: TheBATMAN on Jan 12, 2024, 09:44:38 AMYes but Resurrection, AVPR, Promethus and Covenant is suggestive that it is very rare something new is done right. Romulus just needs to be a back to basics thriller. 'Something new' can be a problem for the next one following its hopeful success.
Technically speaking, AVPR is not an Alien movie.
It's a superhero movie
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Well, Isabella Merced has now been cast in the second season of The Last of Us, so a new cast member of Alien: Romulus has gotten a big new role.
Just like Cailee Spaeny (Priscilla and Civil War), Isabella has been on a roll with Alien, Last of Us and Superman: Legacy.
Quote from: TheBATMAN on Jan 12, 2024, 09:44:38 AMRomulus just needs to be a back to basics thriller. 'Something new' can be a problem for the next one following its hopeful success.
We still have to see the movie, but getting back to basics was what this IP desperately needed after so many experiments.
I understand what you're saying, and success could be interpreted as
"use the first 2 movies as references = good",
"new ideas = bad". Or even worse yet, a DisneyStarwars where we can't escape the aesthetics and tropes of the original trilogy.
Personally, I don't mind new ideas. Everything goes in the execution. That's the reason why
Prometheus failed.
On the other hand, something tells me that in the Noah Hawley series we will have our share of eccentricities. I might be wrong though.😅 Back on
Romulus, he feels more and more like a
Prey. 8)🙏
Quote from: Immortan Jonesy on Jan 12, 2024, 10:12:01 PMQuote from: TheBATMAN on Jan 12, 2024, 09:44:38 AMRomulus just needs to be a back to basics thriller. 'Something new' can be a problem for the next one following its hopeful success.
We still have to see the movie, but getting back to basics was what this IP desperately needed after so many experiments.
I understand what you're saying, and success could be interpreted as "use the first 2 movies as references = good", "new ideas = bad". Or even worse yet, a DisneyStarwars where we can't escape the aesthetics and tropes of the original trilogy.
Personally, I don't mind new ideas. Everything goes in the execution. That's the reason why Prometheus failed.
On the other hand, something tells me that in the Noah Hawley series we will have our share of eccentricities. I might be wrong though.😅 Back on Romulus, he feels more and more like a Prey. 8)🙏
To be fair, even Aliens was an attempt at doing something new.
Cameron managed to catch a second lighting in a bottle by expanding on what happened on the first movie, so who knows if Fede Alvarez is able to do the same.
The veteran still photographer Murray Close, who worked with legends such as Stanley Kubrick and Steven Spielberg (Indiana Jones films, Jurassic Park), is very enthusiastic and optimistic about the movie. Some of his early Instagram posts suggest this. :)
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Quote from: Darkoo on Jan 15, 2024, 10:01:14 AMThe veteran still photographer Murray Close, who worked with legends such as Stanley Kubrick and Steven Spielberg (Indiana Jones films, Jurassic Park), is very enthusiastic and optimistic about the movie. Some of his early Instagram posts suggest this. :)
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Nice find.
But can someone explain to me what is the function of a still photographer, when it comes to filmmaking.
Is it as straightforward as the name implies?
I want to know the difference between it and cinematographer.
A still photographer on shoots like films, commercials, etc. takes production stills to document the shoot, use in marketing, and so on.
That Leica is Weyland Yutani property. Also, is that this film's version of Mr. Jones?
https://variety.com/2024/tv/news/noah-hawley-breaks-down-fargo-season-5-finale-1235870561/
Since there's an "Alien" movie coming out in August, have you connected with its director Fede Alvarez at all?
I haven't talked to Fede, but I'm super excited to see what he did. I heard about the film, and it sounds like a nail biter for sure.
Rumor:
A Hungarian journalist reports that an additional filming is currently taking place in Budapest.
https://twitter.com/whanklee/status/1748469431292817408
Quote from: PortugueseXeno on Jan 17, 2024, 04:20:01 PMhttps://variety.com/2024/tv/news/noah-hawley-breaks-down-fargo-season-5-finale-1235870561/
Since there's an "Alien" movie coming out in August, have you connected with its director Fede Alvarez at all?
I haven't talked to Fede, but I'm super excited to see what he did. I heard about the film, and it sounds like a nail biter for sure.
So they're completely doing separate things without considering if one will affect the other universe wise? Didn't expect anything else, but at least I know not to get my hopes up for any sort of continuity and not treading on toes.
Quote from: Still Collating... on Jan 20, 2024, 01:39:42 AMQuote from: PortugueseXeno on Jan 17, 2024, 04:20:01 PMhttps://variety.com/2024/tv/news/noah-hawley-breaks-down-fargo-season-5-finale-1235870561/
Since there's an "Alien" movie coming out in August, have you connected with its director Fede Alvarez at all?
I haven't talked to Fede, but I'm super excited to see what he did. I heard about the film, and it sounds like a nail biter for sure.
So they're completely doing separate things without considering if one will affect the other universe wise? Didn't expect anything else, but at least I know not to get my hopes up for any sort of continuity and not treading on toes.
They are set pretty far apart from one another on the timeline, so it'd be pretty unlikely that they'd really even be able to step on one another's toes in any significant way.
Plus, Ridley is producing both, so there is one point of overlap.
Perfect Organism Podcast reported that Romulus will connect to the prequels... So it sounds like the show and Romulus might contradict each-other.
Quote from: Nightmare Asylum on Jan 20, 2024, 02:57:40 AMPlus, Ridley is producing both, so there is one point of overlap.
Yeah but Ridley and continuity goes together like guns and alcohol. ;D
Quote from: The Eighth Passenger on Jan 21, 2024, 08:22:21 AMQuote from: Nightmare Asylum on Jan 20, 2024, 02:57:40 AMPlus, Ridley is producing both, so there is one point of overlap.
Yeah but Ridley and continuity goes together like guns and alcohol. ;D
I've never had an accident... yet.
Quote from: Nukiemorph on Jan 20, 2024, 08:47:59 AMPerfect Organism Podcast reported that Romulus will connect to the prequels... So it sounds like the show and Romulus might contradict each-other.
I find that hard to believe, what I mean being: I can not imagine Noah Hawley's Alien contradicting Fede Alvarez's Alien specifically more than the other prequel films.
Quote from: BlueMarsalis79 on Jan 21, 2024, 11:54:01 AMQuote from: Nukiemorph on Jan 20, 2024, 08:47:59 AMPerfect Organism Podcast reported that Romulus will connect to the prequels... So it sounds like the show and Romulus might contradict each-other.
I find that hard to believe, what I mean being: I can not imagine Noah Hawley's Alien contradicting Fede Alvarez's Alien specifically more than the other prequel films.
Yeah, Fede's movie and Noah's series will probably not contradict each other at all.
They will just act like the Xeno was around in both periods instead of trying to do some big and ambitious origin story that limits and diminishes the universe and potential for more stories.
That's what I'm hoping.
https://screenrant.com/alien-romulus-retcon-franchise-canon-movies/
Lame article. No basis in reality. Just based on the timeline versus stating they had a comment or something to make them.them think they are retconning Alien 3.
Quote from: razeak on Jan 22, 2024, 02:33:14 PMhttps://screenrant.com/alien-romulus-retcon-franchise-canon-movies/
Lame article. No basis in reality. Just based on the timeline versus stating they had a comment or something to make them.them think they are retconning Alien 3.
Agreed. This is one of the stupidest things I have ever read.
ON THE INTERNET.
watch it be real anyway
It's ScreenRant, it's firmly pulled from someone's arsehole.
Quote from: skhellter on Jan 23, 2024, 09:45:30 PMwatch it be real anyway
I noticed that actually Noah Hawley stopped referring to "the first three Alien films" switching instead to "the first two Alien films" recently so, I certainly hope that article had no basis in reality.
What do you guys think regarding possible androids in Romulus?
If i am not mistaken, there were some leaked casting tapes, that hinted at an android named Andy, but we don't know if the casting dialogue was made for the actual movie or just for the casting process.
Androids have been such a huge part of Alien, that i am intrigued to see how Fede would use them.
But given how much he loves to torture his characters and flex his practical effects, we would probably see an android get rekted, Bishop-style.
I'm expecting an android to get wrecked.
Quote from: SiL on Jan 23, 2024, 10:18:37 PMI'm expecting an android to get wrecked.
I'm expecting at least a 5:1 ratio of androids to aliens. Or maybe I'm thinking of the TV show. I can't tell them apart at this point.
Quote from: PortugueseXeno on Jan 23, 2024, 10:13:13 PMWhat do you guys think regarding possible androids in Romulus?
If i am not mistaken, there were some leaked casting tapes, that hinted at an android named Andy, but we don't know if the casting dialogue was made for the actual movie or just for the casting process.
"Andy" I imagine is just a shortened form for android. The androids in Philip K. Dick's "Do Androids Dream of Electric Sheep" were also referred to as "Andy's". So might also be a nod to Dick's novel.
Ideally they should have named the android "Gordon".
Quote from: PortugueseXeno on Jan 23, 2024, 10:13:13 PMWhat do you guys think regarding possible androids in Romulus?
If i am not mistaken, there were some leaked casting tapes, that hinted at an android named Andy, but we don't know if the casting dialogue was made for the actual movie or just for the casting process.
Unless -
Spoiler
the character name was changed, from what we've seen there is an android named Andy.
Andy is kind of a bland name for an android.
It doesn't have the same gravitas as Ash, Bishop, David or Walter.
I like it, in a kind of snarky "this thing is just a machine/property" kind of way that says more about the person that gave it the name than it does about the android himself.
(https://media1.giphy.com/media/v1.Y2lkPTc5MGI3NjExYXRpN2Z0MTBma3YxdGRjcGxvY25vbTJoaTlycW84YnBqZ3EzM2plZCZlcD12MV9pbnRlcm5hbF9naWZfYnlfaWQmY3Q9Zw/JlZRmVQmi76tAgkGxO/source.gif)
is Andy breedable
Well is Andy compatible with human breeding or not?
A Reddit user had the opportunity to speak with Rodo.
https://www.reddit.com/r/blankies/comments/19erlub/made_a_short_film_with_some_friends_that_got_us/
QuoteMade a short film with some friends that got us into the Jose Ignacio International Film Festival. We lost but I got to see May December on a beach (+ talked to the Alien: Romulus writer and got some deets
QuoteNew alien is set on a planet's colony and stars a new cast of younger characters and is very much horror focused. Got to see some amazing set pics, legit excited for it now
Quotewhat I saw bout the new alien: both the writer and director played Alien Isolation and liked it very much (direct quote)
at the same time they consulted more with Cameron instead of Ridley
The most interesting thing is, Fede Alvarez and Rodo consulted more with James Cameron instead of Scott.
Quote from: Thatguy2068 on Jan 24, 2024, 11:42:00 PMWell is Andy compatible with human breeding or not?
(https://64.media.tumblr.com/17925023e0d174b2fc762d9819eb4b93/tumblr_nde1tgeLGn1scscpvo4_250.gif)
Quote from: Darkoo on Jan 25, 2024, 07:55:43 AMThe most interesting thing is, Fede Alvarez and Rodo consulted more with James Cameron instead of Scott
A few weeks ago there was a comment here about Fede Alvarez mentioning a funny story about James Cameorn during a film conference or something like that.
Maybe it's related.
Quote from: Darkoo on Jan 25, 2024, 07:55:43 AMA Reddit user had the opportunity to speak with Rodo.
https://www.reddit.com/r/blankies/comments/19erlub/made_a_short_film_with_some_friends_that_got_us/
QuoteMade a short film with some friends that got us into the Jose Ignacio International Film Festival. We lost but I got to see May December on a beach (+ talked to the Alien: Romulus writer and got some deets
QuoteNew alien is set on a planet's colony and stars a new cast of younger characters and is very much horror focused. Got to see some amazing set pics, legit excited for it now
Quotewhat I saw bout the new alien: both the writer and director played Alien Isolation and liked it very much (direct quote)
at the same time they consulted more with Cameron instead of Ridley
The most interesting thing is, Fede Alvarez and Rodo consulted more with James Cameron instead of Scott.
Good. They should stay away from Scott as much as possible. Don't want him infecting them with his story ideas.
Quote from: Darkoo on Jan 19, 2024, 11:19:31 PMRumor:
A Hungarian journalist reports that an additional filming is currently taking place in Budapest.
https://www.instagram.com/shazzam/
Alien Romulus's Key makeup artist Sharon Watson appeared in a recent Instagram video in front of the entrance to Origo film studio Budapest. Another indication to the additional filming
(https://i.ibb.co/XXCcw56/romulusfilming.png)
One of the actor Aileen Wu hinted in a one-week-old Instagram post that she has arrived in Budapest.
Quote from: Still Collating... on Jan 26, 2024, 12:11:50 AMQuote from: Darkoo on Jan 25, 2024, 07:55:43 AMA Reddit user had the opportunity to speak with Rodo.
https://www.reddit.com/r/blankies/comments/19erlub/made_a_short_film_with_some_friends_that_got_us/
QuoteMade a short film with some friends that got us into the Jose Ignacio International Film Festival. We lost but I got to see May December on a beach (+ talked to the Alien: Romulus writer and got some deets
QuoteNew alien is set on a planet's colony and stars a new cast of younger characters and is very much horror focused. Got to see some amazing set pics, legit excited for it now
Quotewhat I saw bout the new alien: both the writer and director played Alien Isolation and liked it very much (direct quote)
at the same time they consulted more with Cameron instead of Ridley
The most interesting thing is, Fede Alvarez and Rodo consulted more with James Cameron instead of Scott.
Good. They should stay away from Scott as much as possible. Don't want him infecting them with his story ideas.
after the Cameron approved decision in Terminator Dark Fate.....let's keep Cameron away too.
known hack james cameron..
(https://i.ibb.co/yQ2wzkD/Picsart-23-12-08-08-15-21-486.jpg)
Dark Fate isn't perfect by any stretch of the imagination, but it is the only halfway decent post-T2 Terminator movie (which puts it and a million miles ahead of those other three movies).
And both Avatars are excellent, for that matter. I'll take more James Cameron input where I can get it.
The idea of both Scott (in his producing role) and Cameron (as someone that Fede might have bounced some questions off of/consulted with) being involved in whatever capacity here tickles me immensely.
Quote from: Nightmare Asylum on Jan 28, 2024, 12:41:56 AMAnd both Avatars are excellent, for that matter.
I dunno man, I genuinely couldn't make it through the second one. Felt more like a 3 hour tech demo for a new graphics card than an engaging story.
Quote from: [cancerblack] on Jan 28, 2024, 12:57:37 AMQuote from: Nightmare Asylum on Jan 28, 2024, 12:41:56 AMAnd both Avatars are excellent, for that matter.
I dunno man, I genuinely couldn't make it through the second one. Felt more like a 3 hour tech demo for a new graphics card than an engaging story.
I have never seen Avatar 2.
Good, it's incredibly boring.
Wait for Avatar² to age. It will be like a glass of Château Beau-Site Haut Vignoble 1960 ~ 🍷
Avatar 2 f**king slapped. Best movie I've seen in the past 5 years
Perhaps if you only watch franchised stuff I could see that opinion.
I liked both Avatar flicks but don't love them. I don't return to them really but both are decent sci fi actioners to kill some time.
Quote from: BlueMarsalis79 on Jan 28, 2024, 04:09:08 PMPerhaps if you only watch franchised stuff I could see that opinion.
To be fair, one could also see Aliens (Cameron's movie) as a franchised stuff.
I have seen people criticize Avatar because of simple Dance with Wolves plot and formulaic characters, while not holding other blockboster properties to the same degree.
I think Avatar gets criticized in ways that other big budget IPs are not, which reeks of double standards and hypocrisy.
But i think that if people took off the blindfold and nostalgia goggles, they would see that those criticisms that easily be used against Aliens and other Cameron movies, even though i love those movies.
The narrative of Aliens is pretty simple and the marines (as funny as Paxton is) are all pretty formulaic and cliche, but the execution of that movie is pretty solid.
Alien (1979) was an artistic piece that with another director and vision, could have easily ended up as some generic B-movie that would have been forgotten to time, while Aliens manages to capitalize on everything that an 80s action movie should strive to be, while still expanding on already existing piece.
At the same time, Aliens manages to be a movie that only Cameron can make, with all of its technological ambition and production scale, but it's very much an over the top action blockbuster from the 80s.
Avatar had wonderful special effects, but the story of that movie (as cliche or as predictable as it was), was made to serve the world and effects of Pandora.
You are not going to capture the audience' heart if you inject The Prestige or Inception type stories into the fantastical world of Pandora, and i don't even think they should, which clearly worked in cameron's favor for both movies.
Quote from: 426Buddy on Jan 28, 2024, 04:31:01 PMI liked both Avatar flicks but don't love them. I don't return to them really but both are decent sci fi actioners to kill some time.
When it comes to Cameron movies, Aliens is my number 1, but the Avatar and Titanic are what's next.
I liked the Termiantors movies, but never really loved them.
Depending on my mood, i don't know if i prefer the more family/character centered approach to Avatar 2: The Way of Water or the scifi take of a stranger on a stranger's land of the first Avatar movie.
I fell in love with Avatar the first time i saw it, and i think a big part of it was because of Jake Sully's introduction to Pandora through the Avatar body.
The entire process in which RDA worked and sent marines and scientits to alien jungles through costumized alien clone bodies was sick and that kind of got lost in the second movie.
The duality of Jake having two bodies and two sides to interact is something that i think the first movie did really well.
Also the Thanators, Banshees and Great Leonopteryx looked increidble, not to mention that the tech from RDA was pretty much Halo brought to life.
Quote from: PortugueseXeno on Jan 28, 2024, 04:41:03 PMthe more family/character centered approach to Avatar 2: The Way of Water
Only works if the film can get you to care at all about those characters. Didn't manage it with me.
I am fully aware of Alien being a franchise lol
Just if you think of Way of Water as the best film in the past five years I just wonder, have you bothered with anything outside the big intellectual properties?
Like Everything Everywhere All At Once? Parasite, Portrait of a Lady on Fire, 1917, Tar, Bottoms, The Power of the Dog, Spencer, Marcel The Shell With Shoes On?
I have never seen any of the movies listed in the above post.
Quote from: Local Trouble on Jan 28, 2024, 06:58:53 PMI have never seen any of the movies listed in the above post.
You should really check out Alien though.
So far I've seen Everything Everywhere All At Once, Parasite and 1917. Excellent movies indeed 🙏8)
Quote from: The Eighth Passenger on Jan 28, 2024, 07:37:35 PMQuote from: Local Trouble on Jan 28, 2024, 06:58:53 PMI have never seen any of the movies listed in the above post.
You should really check out Alien though.
Why bother? I hear it doesn't have any Colonial Marines or even a queen in it.
Are people struggling to grapple with the fact we're all individuals with individual tastes again?
Quote from: Local Trouble on Jan 28, 2024, 08:43:04 PMQuote from: The Eighth Passenger on Jan 28, 2024, 07:37:35 PMQuote from: Local Trouble on Jan 28, 2024, 06:58:53 PMI have never seen any of the movies listed in the above post.
You should really check out Alien though.
Why bother? I hear it doesn't have any Colonial Marines or even a queen in it.
Or...
Spoiler
(https://s13.gifyu.com/images/SCzvL.gif)
Quote from: BlueMarsalis79 on Jan 28, 2024, 06:49:01 PMI am fully aware of Alien being a franchise lol
Just if you think of Way of Water as the best film in the past five years I just wonder, have you bothered with anything outside the big intellectual properties?
Like Everything Everywhere All At Once? Parasite, Portrait of a Lady on Fire, 1917, Tar, Bottoms, The Power of the Dog, Spencer, Marcel The Shell With Shoes On?
I didn't say that Avatar was better than those movies, but i do think that when it comes to blockbuster IPs, Avatar gets criticized in way that other popular IPs don't and that in turn exposes a lot of hypocrisy and double standards (also i am not saying that you are one of those peeps).
Personally, even though i think most of those movies above are better than Avatar, i still personally prefer Avatar (maybe not in comparison to Parasite), since the whole idea and world appeals more to me than the rest of those movies.
Quote from: PortugueseXeno on Jan 28, 2024, 11:28:53 PMsince the whole idea and world appeals more to me than the rest of those movies.
This is where the Avatar movies fall flat for me personally. I find it extremely difficult to summon much interest for the setting or narrative and the characters don't grab me.
Quote from: [cancerblack] on Jan 28, 2024, 11:41:50 PMQuote from: PortugueseXeno on Jan 28, 2024, 11:28:53 PMsince the whole idea and world appeals more to me than the rest of those movies.
This is where the Avatar movies fall flat for me personally. I find it extremely difficult to summon much interest for the setting or narrative and the characters don't grab me.
I mean, yeah, that is completely fine and fair, but my comments in general are in regards to how some people hold up Avatar to some higher form of art standards that they don't do to other popular franchises, siuch as MCU, Star Wars, Lord of the Rings.
To me, Avatar, the setting and the characters grabbed me.
Is the setting a little silly and the characters formulaic? Yes, but if you really think about so are most blockbuster universes, etc...
For the longest time I was actually pretty meh on Avatar. I saw it once in the cinema, once when it came out on home release. Then my memory of it was it just just some dull Dances with Wolves knock off. Then I revisited it just before Way of the Water and just absolutely loved it. Was completely drawn into the world. I've watched it a few more times since too including a week or so ago. I think I was just trying too hard to dislike it back when it came out - edgy 20 year old and all that. I loved Way of the Water too.
I know it's easy to shit on the Dark Fate recommendation too - but it was the best Terminator film since the second. And sure, it was hypocritical of them to Alien 3 John given Cameron's very vocal dislike of that. But I have no issue with Fede bouncing off both Scott and Cameron. They did both contribute significantly to the foundation of the entire franchise. I just hope that it all was ultimately Fede's venture and final decisions.
Quote from: Corporal Hicks on Jan 29, 2024, 10:59:15 AMI know it's easy to shit on the Dark Fate recommendation too - but it was the best Terminator film since the second.
Absolutely agree, although admittedly that wasn't a high bar to clear. I rewatched
Dark Fate the other night and it's still pretty cool. It's the true Terminator 3 if you ask me.
@PortugueseXeno it is
@Scott Conover I was replying to with this statement:
Quote from: BlueMarsalis79 on Jan 28, 2024, 06:49:01 PMJust if you think of Way of Water as the best film in the past five years I just wonder, have you bothered with anything outside the big intellectual properties?
Like Everything Everywhere All At Once? Parasite, Portrait of a Lady on Fire, 1917, Tar, Bottoms, The Power of the Dog, Spencer, Marcel The Shell With Shoes On?
Although I will say I rate the Lord of the Rings far above the other franchises you mentioned, they are Oscar winners, eons beyond the others in craft to me.
Quote from: BlueMarsalis79 on Jan 29, 2024, 05:28:49 PM@PortugueseXeno it is @Scott Conover I was replying to with this statement:
Quote from: BlueMarsalis79 on Jan 28, 2024, 06:49:01 PMJust if you think of Way of Water as the best film in the past five years I just wonder, have you bothered with anything outside the big intellectual properties?
Like Everything Everywhere All At Once? Parasite, Portrait of a Lady on Fire, 1917, Tar, Bottoms, The Power of the Dog, Spencer, Marcel The Shell With Shoes On?
Although I will say I rate the Lord of the Rings far above the other franchises you mentioned, they are Oscar winners, eons beyond the others in craft to me.
Ah yes, absolutely, the Lord of the Rings is far superior to Star Wars or the MCU, but it still has its fair share of sillyness.
At least the movies do, can't say much about the books since i didn't read them.
Avatar aside, as for both Sci Fi franchises James Cameron gets most recognised for, I will say this...
If I had a nickel for; the third best film killing off the child in the opening from the second that the prior film revolves around saving I would have two nickels, which isn't a lot but it's weird it happened twice.
Quote from: BlueMarsalis79 on Jan 29, 2024, 05:50:05 PMAvatar aside, as for both Sci Fi franchises James Cameron gets most recognised for, I will say this...
If I had a nickel for; the third best film killing off the child in the opening from the second that the prior film revolves around saving I would have two nickels, which isn't a lot but it's weird it happened twice.
Yeah, that is one heck of a coincidence though.
Cameron is amazing. Don't get me wrong. So is Ridley Scott. They both shit on big franchises.
Dunking 10 year old Connor.....no. f**k that. Just let him make Avatar.
The Connor decision is so stupid regardless of how decent the rest of the film is.
And snipped. Come on folk, please be aware of your tones and behavior. There was some needless rude discourse between folk there. These are films. They're largely subjective. Let's remember this.
The lack of alien: romulus news is starting to get to some people.
Mike, quickly, we need more hints!!!
(it's totally for their sake, not for me, of course)
Quote from: PortugueseXeno on Jan 30, 2024, 12:39:21 PMThe lack of alien: romulus news is starting to get to some people.
Mike, quickly, we need more hints!!!
(it's totally for their sake, not for me, of course)
Meanwhile, let's be enthusiastic together with the concept artists who worked on the film ;D :P
We are talking about top class concept artists who have worked on Star Wars movies and numerous other sci-fi films in the past.
(https://i.ibb.co/JtYWY3z/Concept-Artist-Comment03.png)
(https://i.ibb.co/N6PBWTk/Concep-Artist-Comment04.png)
(https://i.ibb.co/hdSXBQj/Concept-Artist-Comment01.png)
(https://i.ibb.co/vwVk1Z6/Concept-Artist-Comment02.png)
Quote from: Darkoo on Jan 30, 2024, 01:08:28 PMQuote from: PortugueseXeno on Jan 30, 2024, 12:39:21 PMThe lack of alien: romulus news is starting to get to some people.
Mike, quickly, we need more hints!!!
(it's totally for their sake, not for me, of course)
Meanwhile, let's be enthusiastic together with the concept artists who worked on the film ;D :P
We are talking about top class concept artists who have worked on Star Wars movies and numerous other sci-fi films in the past.
https://i.ibb.co/JtYWY3z/Concept-Artist-Comment03.pnghttps://i.ibb.co/N6PBWTk/Concep-Artist-Comment04.pnghttps://i.ibb.co/hdSXBQj/Concept-Artist-Comment01.pnghttps://i.ibb.co/vwVk1Z6/Concept-Artist-Comment02.png
This is the type of content we need here.
Nice work!!!
https://www.instagram.com/p/C1J5EDhBjNu/?img_index=1
https://www.instagram.com/p/C1J5EDhBjNu/?img_index=2
https://www.instagram.com/p/CzpF1G9BbpU/?img_index=1
https://www.instagram.com/p/CzpF1G9BbpU/?img_index=2
Guys, we may have here our first potential concept art for Alien: Romulus.
This guy made concept art for Alien and Love, Death and Robots and put in his hashtags, things such as #alien and #retrofuturism.
Take a look.
Quote from: PortugueseXeno on Jan 30, 2024, 01:40:31 PMQuote from: Darkoo on Jan 30, 2024, 01:08:28 PMQuote from: PortugueseXeno on Jan 30, 2024, 12:39:21 PMThe lack of alien: romulus news is starting to get to some people.
Mike, quickly, we need more hints!!!
(it's totally for their sake, not for me, of course)
Meanwhile, let's be enthusiastic together with the concept artists who worked on the film ;D :P
We are talking about top class concept artists who have worked on Star Wars movies and numerous other sci-fi films in the past.
https://i.ibb.co/JtYWY3z/Concept-Artist-Comment03.pnghttps://i.ibb.co/N6PBWTk/Concep-Artist-Comment04.pnghttps://i.ibb.co/hdSXBQj/Concept-Artist-Comment01.pnghttps://i.ibb.co/vwVk1Z6/Concept-Artist-Comment02.png
This is the type of content we need here.
Nice work!!!
https://www.instagram.com/p/C1J5EDhBjNu/?img_index=1
https://www.instagram.com/p/C1J5EDhBjNu/?img_index=2
https://www.instagram.com/p/CzpF1G9BbpU/?img_index=1
https://www.instagram.com/p/CzpF1G9BbpU/?img_index=2
Guys, we may have here our first potential concept art for Alien: Romulus.
This guy made concept art for Alien and Love, Death and Robots and put in his hashtags, things such as #alien and #retrofuturism.
Take a look.
In the caption, he refers to the art pieces as personal work. So this stuff itself isn't from
Romulus, despite him working on the film.
Quote from: Nightmare Asylum on Jan 30, 2024, 02:25:50 PMQuote from: PortugueseXeno on Jan 30, 2024, 01:40:31 PMQuote from: Darkoo on Jan 30, 2024, 01:08:28 PMQuote from: PortugueseXeno on Jan 30, 2024, 12:39:21 PMThe lack of alien: romulus news is starting to get to some people.
Mike, quickly, we need more hints!!!
(it's totally for their sake, not for me, of course)
Meanwhile, let's be enthusiastic together with the concept artists who worked on the film ;D :P
We are talking about top class concept artists who have worked on Star Wars movies and numerous other sci-fi films in the past.
https://i.ibb.co/JtYWY3z/Concept-Artist-Comment03.pnghttps://i.ibb.co/N6PBWTk/Concep-Artist-Comment04.pnghttps://i.ibb.co/hdSXBQj/Concept-Artist-Comment01.pnghttps://i.ibb.co/vwVk1Z6/Concept-Artist-Comment02.png
This is the type of content we need here.
Nice work!!!
https://www.instagram.com/p/C1J5EDhBjNu/?img_index=1
https://www.instagram.com/p/C1J5EDhBjNu/?img_index=2
https://www.instagram.com/p/CzpF1G9BbpU/?img_index=1
https://www.instagram.com/p/CzpF1G9BbpU/?img_index=2
Guys, we may have here our first potential concept art for Alien: Romulus.
This guy made concept art for Alien and Love, Death and Robots and put in his hashtags, things such as #alien and #retrofuturism.
Take a look.
In the caption, he refers to the art pieces as personal work. So this stuff itself isn't from Romulus, despite him working on the film.
Ah man.
Quote from: PortugueseXeno on Jan 30, 2024, 12:39:21 PMMike, quickly, we need more hints!!!
That guys concept art looks great, but isn't from the film from what I've seen behind the scenes. Like others said, likely just other portfolio pieces that fit the subject matter.
Spoiler alert,
there is a Xenomorph in the new Alien movie!!!
But really, I going to be sharing a lot less about Romulus because it upset a few members. I mentioned it in another thread a little while ago. Once it's had more official info released I'll share more out of respect for the others here. Just reiterating for those who may not have seen the other post.
Quote from: Mike's Monsters on Jan 30, 2024, 05:21:53 PMthere is a Xenomorph in the new Alien movie!!!
Now this is what i am talking about, this is the type of hints we need!!!
Quote from: Local Trouble on Jan 30, 2024, 05:24:18 PMQuote from: Local Trouble on Jan 15, 2024, 11:00:32 PMQuote from: Mike's Monsters on Jan 15, 2024, 10:35:04 PMI'm aware. And I've got the hint, so I'll definitely be stopping going forward.
@PortugueseXeno isn't gonna like this.
Ooof, just read those comments for the first time.
That sure got tense, so i can understand why Mike decided to go for a more low profile, but i will admit that i was surprised to see that some people had such a negative reaction/attitude towards Mike's hints and comments.
It is what it is, some people will like it, some will not, but no need to get too worked up about it.
But yeah, i'm cool with Mike and when i said i wanted hints, i was mostly joking... mostly.
Also, i can confirm that i never bombarded Mike's DMs with questions hahaha
Quote from: PortugueseXeno on Jan 30, 2024, 05:47:38 PMAlso, i can confirm that i never bombarded Mike's DMs with questions hahaha
Maybe you should. Let us know what he says.
Quote from: Mike's Monsters on Jan 30, 2024, 05:21:53 PMBut really, I going to be sharing a lot less about Romulus because it upset a few members.
Spoiler
Just use spoiler tags.
Can't even open my DMs from the overload of messages I have from
@PortugueseXeno! He's lying!
😉
Quote from: The Eighth Passenger on Jan 30, 2024, 06:54:13 PMQuote from: Mike's Monsters on Jan 30, 2024, 05:21:53 PMBut really, I going to be sharing a lot less about Romulus because it upset a few members.
Spoiler
Just use spoiler tags.
This is true,
Spoiler
but often I honestly forget to use that feature and am also very lazy.
Quote from: Mike's Monsters on Jan 30, 2024, 06:59:19 PMCan't even open my DMs from the overload of messages I have from @PortugueseXeno! He's lying!
😉
Quote from: The Eighth Passenger on Jan 30, 2024, 06:54:13 PMQuote from: Mike's Monsters on Jan 30, 2024, 05:21:53 PMBut really, I going to be sharing a lot less about Romulus because it upset a few members.
Spoiler
Just use spoiler tags.
This is true, Spoiler
but often I honestly forget to use that feature and am also very lazy.
I've been exposed!!!
Potential teaser time
https://twitter.com/HollywoodHandle/status/1752834460557377607
QuotePotential teaser time
They might show some footage for the attendees, but it'll likely remain behind closed doors.
Perhaps something on the 26th of that month. Just don't quote me on that though. ;)
Seems a very reasonable guess to me!
I've been saying expect springtime for a reason! Very likely timeline for us to start seeing stuff.
I hope we get more on Alien Day than just that frankly, big gap in my 4K collection that needs to be filled immediately.
A part of me likes the idea of the first teaser being released on Alien Day, while the previous week builts up the momentum through social media buzz, set pics, etc...
To make it sort of an event itselfand get the hype going.
But on the other hand, just casually releasing it on a random day, to truly capture the internet and world by storm is also a very seductive option.
I think the worst part is knowing that there is definetely something going to be released on Alien Day (whether it's the first teaser or a 5/10 minute clip like Alien: Covenant did) and the frustrating part of waiting months for that specific date, since we already have the actual movie's release date for that.
I don't expect this one to have all the short films, deleted clips and stuff that we saw for the prequels. No Weyland giving a speech, David commercials. This is going to be quiet in marketing like PREY was, not showing too much with just a few trailers, commercials and posters/print marketing. At least I'd like to hope.
I'd say it's pretty much guaranteed that footage will be shown at CinemaCon. They'd be silly not to show anything there.
And if it does show there, I do hope it goes online right after, because frankly, I'd rather my first experience with it be seeing the teaser properly for myself, rather than struggling (and likely failing) to avoid a bunch of second hand accounts of it.
Quote from: Mike's Monsters on Feb 01, 2024, 07:29:09 PMI don't expect this one to have all the short films, deleted clips and stuff that we saw for the prequels. No Weyland giving a speech, David commercials. This is going to be quiet in marketing like PREY was, not showing too much with just a few trailers, commercials and posters/print marketing. At least I'd like to hope.
I definitely don't imagine we'll be getting a big viral campaign and all the other bells and whistles that
Prometheus and
Alien: Covenant got, but I do think it'll be a bigger campaign than
Prey's just by nature of this being a theatrical release and having tickets that need selling.
Quote from: Mike's Monsters on Feb 01, 2024, 07:29:09 PMI don't expect this one to have all the short films, deleted clips and stuff that we saw for the prequels. No Weyland giving a speech, David commercials. This is going to be quiet in marketing like PREY was, not showing too much with just a few trailers, commercials and posters/print marketing. At least I'd like to hope.
Oh yeah, absolutely.
When this movie was announced, i never really thought that it would get the bombastic marketing and scope of the prequels, with all of the short films, etc...
I mean, would i like to see atleast one viral marketing video like that in which there is a explanation surrounding what the crew of the Romulus station does? Sure, but it's not really necessary.
Also,when i meant build up marketing, i was refering to still images or set pics being released throughout the week as a way to hype up the release of the actual trailer, like a lot of movies do.
Well, when it was announced, it was a streaming release. ;)
Quote from: Nightmare Asylum on Feb 01, 2024, 07:55:15 PMWell, when it was announced, it was a streaming release. ;)
The sheer thought of an Alien movie having a potential streaming release is downright disgusting lmao.
Were it a straight-to-DVD, then the franchise would never recover.
https://twitter.com/GraceRandolph/status/1752697471439143168
She liked one of the responses that guessed Deadpool, Apes, Alien, Wicked so perhaps she thinks that's what's going.
Maybe maybe...
Quote from: Darkoo on Feb 01, 2024, 08:05:39 PMhttps://twitter.com/GraceRandolph/status/1752697471439143168
She liked one of the responses that guessed Deadpool, Apes, Alien, Wicked so perhaps she thinks that's what's going.
Maybe maybe...
No, don't do that Grace.
Don't give me hope.
Quote from: Darkoo on Feb 01, 2024, 08:05:39 PMhttps://twitter.com/GraceRandolph/status/1752697471439143168
She liked one of the responses that guessed Deadpool, Apes, Alien, Wicked so perhaps she thinks that's what's going.
Maybe maybe...
Please be true! Without knowing nothing about the movie I'm already getting excited, imagine with the trailer is released
Some hope for PortugueseXeno. Or a potential troll post.
https://www.reddit.com/r/LV426/comments/1aiu5mk/is_it_possible_for_alien_romulus_get_a_superbowl/
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Won't believe it until it's right in front of me, but, I do want to believe.
This 👆:)
Quote from: Darkoo on Feb 04, 2024, 07:55:31 PMSome hope for PortugueseXeno. Or a potential troll post.
https://www.reddit.com/r/LV426/comments/1aiu5mk/is_it_possible_for_alien_romulus_get_a_superbowl/
https://i.ibb.co/4txNyty/superbowlrumour.png
Honestly, i think this is true guys.
I think the stars are finally assigning.
It will probably be a 15 second or 30 second, instead of a full minute, but i think the time for our first look at the movie is getting closer.
https://twitter.com/BeyondReporter/status/1753124940260188612
https://twitter.com/BeyondReporter/status/1753124940260188612
These tweets are in portuguese (brazil), but just like Beyond the Trailer and the comment from r/LV426, they hint at Alien: Romulus making its first presence at the Super Bowl.
I don't even like American "football", but i might even try to watch it if it means i get to possibly see the trailer/spot live, regardless if it temporarily screws with my speeling schedule.
Either way, if this is a troll, i will absolutely destroy my gym the next day and wreck havoc on city of Lisbon.
Quote from: PortugueseXeno on Feb 04, 2024, 08:35:03 PMHonestly, i think this is true guys.
I think the stars are finally assigning.
It will probably be a 15 second or 30 second, instead of a full minute, but i think the time for our first look ast the movie is getting closer.
I have a good feeling we'll get a short teaser.
Someone wake up Mike's Monsters
We hereby summon Mike's Monsters.
Not only that, but i will try to manifest the Super Bowl TV Spot, just like i tried to manifest a teaser on Christmas Day.
The difference is that this time, i'm dead serious.
i want to believe
Super Bowl is always a good spot to drop a tease. Can't say I've heard anything about this, as I only know a little bit of the marketing stuff going on (it's not all one company doing the marketing). But I wouldn't be surprised. It could really go either way. If it's anything, it'll be a very light tease I'm assuming.
I'd be (pleasantly) surprised if only because superbowl ads aren't cheap, so it shows a good level of commitment by the company.
They're taking this one very seriously. I expect them to go all out, I just hope they don't show the whole film in the marketing. Prey did a great job of not spoiling the whole thing.
Quote from: Mike's Monsters on Feb 05, 2024, 01:24:01 AMThey're taking this one very seriously. I expect them to go all out, I just hope they don't show the whole film in the marketing. Prey did a great job of not spoiling the whole thing.
Hey Mike your inbox's full, I have a question but, not actually a question about Romulus!
Holy shit, it actually was full lmao.
All cleared up!!!
Quote from: Mike's Monsters on Feb 05, 2024, 01:24:01 AMThey're taking this one very seriously. I expect them to go all out, I just hope they don't show the whole film in the marketing. Prey did a great job of not spoiling the whole thing.
An actual teaser would be great! Just give me some freaky sound effects and great images.
Quote from: BlueMarsalis79 on Feb 05, 2024, 02:00:59 AMHey Mike your inbox's full
@PortugueseXeno stop spamming the man for goodness sake! ;D
Quote from: The Eighth Passenger on Feb 05, 2024, 11:02:42 AMQuote from: BlueMarsalis79 on Feb 05, 2024, 02:00:59 AMHey Mike your inbox's full
@PortugueseXeno stop spamming the man for goodness sake! ;D
Everyday, after i wake up, i spam Mike's inbox.
After eating my breakfast, i spam some more.
I pack up my things, go to college and when i arrive there, i spam a little more.
After my classes, i go to gym, but not before spamming.
Before i go to bed, i do my last spam, but i never get an answer.
So i sleep and hope to start again the next day, hinse and repeat.
I suspect it's actually Xenomrph and SiL doing most of the spamming. :P
Quote from: Mike's Monsters on Feb 04, 2024, 11:53:34 PMas I only know a little bit of the marketing stuff going on
So, what you are saying, is that there is a chance? ;)
Well, boys, looks like Mike gave us an official confirmation!!! It is time.
What should be Mike's punishment, in case of him trolling or lying?
50 Lashes at the main mast and no pudding.
There's certainly a chance! Wish I could confirm something but my folks aren't working this bit of marketing. There's some fun stuff being planned though.
You guys really need to reign in Sil and Xenomrph. They have been begging for every morsel of information in my DMs. It's no wonder why the inbox was full. 😛
But really! If we see something, it would be awesome! I have no expectations, so if it doesn't end up being true, I won't be let down. If anything, I think it would be cool if they did a classic style teaser like ALIEN with the egg, or the ALIEN3 teaser, but not lying about it set on earth. A literal tease would be so fun and a nice homage to the early teasers from the OG films.
Quote from: Mike's Monsters on Feb 05, 2024, 06:49:22 PMThere's certainly a chance! Wish I could confirm something but my folks aren't working this bit of marketing. There's some fun stuff being planned though.
You guys really need to reign in Sil and Xenomrph. They have been begging for every morsel of information in my DMs. It's no wonder why the inbox was full. 😛
But really! If we see something, it would be awesome! I have no expectations, so if it doesn't end up being true, I won't be let down. If anything, I think it would be cool if they did a classic style teaser like ALIEN with the egg, or the ALIEN3 teaser, but not lying about it set on earth. A literal tease would be so fun and a nice homage to the early teasers from the OG films.
Trailers are also an artform, but it appears that over the years, most trailers are just straight up bad, spoiling everything.
Horror trailers are even worse because not only do they spoil the entire plot, but they spoil the deaths, the jump scares, etc...
A trailer like the one Alien (1979) had are hard to find now, but i guess if Romulus had a teaser like the recent teaser of Longlegs, then i guess that would inspire some hope.
Horror trailer should be about the vibes and atmosphere.
Quote from: Mike's Monsters on Feb 05, 2024, 06:49:22 PMIf anything, I think it would be cool if they did a classic style teaser like ALIEN with the egg, or the ALIEN3 teaser, but not lying about it set on earth. A literal tease would be so fun and a nice homage to the early teasers from the OG films.
Oh this would rock actually.
Having watched that new SMILE movie last night, the trailer ruined it for me. Watched one trailer, only in a movie theater while seeing NOPE a few years back. Every jump scare or creepy scene, minus the ending shots, must have been in the trailer because I kept either predicting exactly how it played out (it was a very formulaic and boring movie to me) or I said, I saw this in the trailer. I felt like I'd seen the whole movie.
Trailers are getting pretty dang bad lately and I hope they don't blow their load with this one, and I don't think they will.
Quote from: Mike's Monsters on Feb 05, 2024, 06:49:22 PMYou guys really need to reign in Sil and Xenomrph. They have been begging for every morsel of information in my DMs. It's no wonder why the inbox was full. 😛
My secret shame revealed!
No mention of Alien: Romulus in here, though it's all speculative as Disney is being cagey on which films they'll be showing off:
https://variety.com/2024/film/news/super-bowl-movie-trailers-wicked-deadpool-3-1235898197/
Not seeing ALIEN in here...
https://variety.com/2024/film/news/super-bowl-movie-trailers-wicked-deadpool-3-1235898197/
Quote from: Darkoo on Feb 01, 2024, 08:05:39 PMhttps://twitter.com/GraceRandolph/status/1752697471439143168
She liked one of the responses that guessed Deadpool, Apes, Alien, Wicked so perhaps she thinks that's what's going.
Maybe maybe...
Thinking that other A is "A Quiet Place" now.
Quote from: Mike's Monsters on Feb 05, 2024, 10:20:17 PMThinking that other A is "A Quiet Place" now.
Perfect opportunity for them to trick us yet again with the
Alien: Covenant score.
Ooof, now that i think about it, A Quiet Place makes more sense than Alien.
Not only is it a more recent and successful IP when it comes to recent box office, but it also has a New York setting, so it's an easier sell than, let's say outer space.
Not to mention that the movie will premiere in JUne instead of August (like Alien will), so it makes sense for it to have a teaser first.
There goes my hopes for thr Alien Tv Spot.
I've been reading some chatter all day about people hearing Romulus will have presence on Sunday.. obviously take it all with a grain of salt but regular ''scooper'' DanielRPK has said he's hearing Alien Romulus will have footage. Disney intends to show Deadpool 3, Inside Out 2, and Kingdom of the Planet of the Apes as well most likely.
Paramount/CBS is showing the Super Bowl so of course they'll take advantage and showcase A Quiet Place as well as their other projects.
Quote from: MudButt on Feb 05, 2024, 11:31:17 PMbut regular ''scooper'' DanielRPK has said he's hearing Alien Romulus will have footage
link?
I still personally feel like it is a bit early for them to show anything. But Sunday will come and we will find out then. Just remember to not get any hopes up, so that way if nothing comes to light, you won't be let down.
I think it's important to look back at previous years for context. Don't quote me on this but think we got two trailers/spots for august films at 2019's Super Bowl. So the precedent is definitely there.
Hoooowever... the huge caveat with this is the Covid of it all. 2019 was a completely different era for the film industry where everything was operating at its peak. Marketing windows for movies have shrunk considerably post-2019.
To add, there are folks on Twitter and Reddit that are claiming we'll for sure see a Godzilla x Kong Super Bowl spot, and I know for a fact that's not happening. I think the Variety article is probably accurate in everything we should expect to see.
The DanielRPK guy hides a lot of his scoops behind a paywall... So, take that info and do with it as you'd like.
Yeah, Alien: Romulus having a presence on Sunday seems more unlikely. I think Disney will focus on Apes, Deadpool, and Inside Out 2.
I'm happy to be pleasantly surprised though! Similar to what Mike said before though, I'd expect the marketing to start closer to April or May.
I don't think it's impossible that Romulus has footage on Sunday though.
Quote from: Mike's Monsters on Feb 06, 2024, 12:58:25 AMBut Sunday will come and we will find out then. Just remember to not get any hopes up, so that way if nothing comes to light, you won't be let down.
Too late, i'm betting the house.
If this one doesn't go down, then it's on you Mike.
Oh not again! :'(👉👈
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😱 oh la humanidad!!!! 🙈☯️⚛🌌👀🙃👎
Edit @@@@ but I remain optimistic :)🙏
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EIC of Discussing Film says a trailer is ready and was gonna be apart of the Super Bowl but not anymore.
https://twitter.com/JacobFisherDF/status/1754964752017559954
So the trailer is ready...
A possible a full length trailer with Dune 2?
Still not entirely sure how much truth there is to that. Would be cool. But my knowledge is that things haven't started moving at full speed yet with marketing production timeline. But again, it's not all under one marketing studio's house either. Time will tell.
Main trailers are often done at post houses with trailer editors direct though, their creation isn't always tied to the rest of the marketing efforts.
Yeah, some places do both too. This case is one of them that does a little bit of both. But this house also might not have been commissioned to do both.
Looking forward to a trailer.
Quote from: Darkoo on Feb 07, 2024, 05:55:04 AMEIC of Discussing Film says a trailer is ready and was gonna be apart of the Super Bowl but not anymore.
https://twitter.com/JacobFisherDF/status/1754964752017559954
So the trailer is ready...
A possible a full length trailer with Dune 2?
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Bob Iger apparently confirmed Alien: Romulus as the title on the earnings call today.
https://www.laughingplace.com/w/disney-business/walt-disney-company-q1-2024-live-blog/
QuoteBob Iger confirmed that the Alien film will be called Alien: Romulus
2/7/2024 1:45 PM Pacific Time
Update from Deadline: https://t.co/azQtQlNmsm
Quote-20th Century Studios' Alien reboot movie from Fede Alvarez is now known as Alien: Romulus. Pic's blurb: Young people from a distant world must face the most terrifying life form in the universe. The movie is still set for Aug. 16 this year. The new feature creature from outer space movie is not connected to the FX series that Noah Hawley is behind.
Final Update?
Disney sent their updated calendar out and Untitled Alien Event Film is now Alien: Romulus.
Quote from: MudButt on Feb 07, 2024, 09:51:54 PMBob Iger apparently confirmed Alien: Romulus as the title on the earnings call today.
https://www.laughingplace.com/w/disney-business/walt-disney-company-q1-2024-live-blog/
QuoteBob Iger confirmed that the Alien film will be called Alien: Romulus
2/7/2024 1:45 PM Pacific Time
Update from Deadline: https://t.co/azQtQlNmsm
Quote-20th Century Studios' Alien reboot movie from Fede Alvarez is now known as Alien: Romulus. Pic's blurb: Young people from a distant world must face the most terrifying life form in the universe. The movie is still set for Aug. 16 this year. The new feature creature from outer space movie is not connected to the FX series that Noah Hawley is behind.
Kind of interesting how they made it clear that is connected to Noah Hawley's TV Series.
Romulus will probably be a more straightforward movie like the first one, like Noah Hawley's series will be a more bold and ambitious project like Aliens, that tries to build upon the world and explore it.
I still think the TV series is going to exist purely in its own bubble.
It gives me hope that the series will exist as a kind of what if bit of fun and not be intended as fully connected to the movie series.
I just take that, as written, as meaning there's no direct connection between Romulus and the show. They're set at different points in the timeline, we're not going to see characters from one appear in the other, etc.
Quote from: Nightmare Asylum on Feb 08, 2024, 12:43:32 AMI just take that, as written, as meaning there's no direct connection between Romulus and the show. They're set at different points in the timeline, we're not going to see characters from one appear in the other, etc.
Agreed. CEOs and executives aren't as tuned into what is or isn't canon or timelines.. this is just a meat & potatoes way of saying these are two separate projects.
I still dont see how a
Spoiler
crashed Weyland-Yutani ship on Earth in the 2070's - 2090's that spills xenomorph eggs into a city environment
can be connected in any way shape or form to the events of the films.
Sure you can talk cover ups and suchlike, but it would change everything about the original trilogy and I dont think that's a positive thing. They tried it once with AVP as a prequel and the majority of people never took to it.
I dont see the harm in this purely being its own thing. Let it run riot in its own universe using the rich depth of source material available without being bound by the films.
Well, since A Quiet Place already has its trailer released, i guess that gives some hope for the Alien: Romulus super bowl trailer.
Not only that, but since Bob Iger officially announced that the 2024 Alien movie is titled Romulus, it seems that they could try to capitalize on that recency.
When I saw the film A Quiet Place for the first time, I immediately thought of how cool it would have been if it had been made like this as an alien film with our xenos. In principle, the film does nothing different than what has already been done in a number of Aliens comics. Except that these creatures are actually blind, which is not entirely clear with xeno.
but...yes that would have worked well as an alien film.
um yeah...trailer...
I know the studio probably can't afford that because of the last Alien film, but I agree that it would actually be nice if we just got the typical Alien font in space with a few disturbing screams in the background....
and nothing else.
that would increase the overall tension quite a bit.
I hate A Quiet Place with a fiery passion. It is the pants-on-head dumbest studio horror movie I've seen in ten years and I refuse to watch anything else to do with it.
Quote from: SiL on Feb 08, 2024, 12:06:55 PMI hate A Quiet Place with a fiery passion. It is the pants-on-head dumbest studio horror movie I've seen in ten years and I refuse to watch anything else to do with it.
Somebody has absolutely no taste in film whatsoever.
Quote from: Slutty Badger on Feb 08, 2024, 12:29:50 PMQuote from: SiL on Feb 08, 2024, 12:06:55 PMI hate A Quiet Place with a fiery passion. It is the pants-on-head dumbest studio horror movie I've seen in ten years and I refuse to watch anything else to do with it.
Somebody has absolutely no taste in film whatsoever.
I have a taste in film.
It does not include something so aggressively, unrelentingly moronic as A Quiet Place.
Quote from: SiL on Feb 08, 2024, 12:33:01 PMI have a taste in film.
It does not include something so aggressively, unrelentingly moronic as A Quiet Place.
Really, though? One of the most innovative, tense, and
INCLUSIVE franchises in recent years is "moronic"? Good gravy.
Quote from: Slutty Badger on Feb 08, 2024, 12:35:04 PMReally, though? One of the most innovative, tense, and INCLUSIVE franchises in recent years is "moronic"? Good gravy.
Why does inclusivity have to do with anything?
Yes, the first movie is moronic. It undermines every single rule or notion
it invents at every turn. Not a God damn thing about what the characters do makes sense. The monsters don't even follow the story's own logic. It is the most egregious example of writing whatever the writers think will make the most dramatic set pieces regardless of whether it makes any sense in their own story or not.
Great, it included an actor with hearing impairment and features ASL. That's f**king rad, but it has nothing to do with how absolutely shithouse the rest of the writing is.
Ugh. If there's a thread for AQP we can continue there. This isn't the place.
I really did not like the first A Quiet Place at all, either. While in the theater I couldn't wait for the movie to be done, I never bothered with the second one, and I was pretty bummed when I heard that the director of Pig (a movie I very much like!) was attached to that new one that's coming out now.
To circle the conversation back around to this franchise, though - man, it sure is annoying how the trailers for those movies always like to throw me for a loop with their use of the Alien: Covenant score!
Quote from: SiL on Feb 08, 2024, 12:46:53 PMUgh. If there's a thread for AQP we can continue there. This isn't the place.
Well, maybe we can find a quiet place.
Quote from: Slutty Badger on Feb 08, 2024, 12:35:04 PMReally, though? One of the most innovative, tense, and INCLUSIVE franchises in recent years is "moronic"? Good gravy.
I wonder if he's actually seen the film? He's the kind of guy who would critique a film or series he hasn't actually watched yet. (Refer Noah Hawley's Alien series). :)
Quote from: SiL on Feb 08, 2024, 12:06:55 PMI hate A Quiet Place with a fiery passion. It is the pants-on-head dumbest studio horror movie I've seen in ten years and I refuse to watch anything else to do with it.
wait a minute...
so you've never seen THE Predator???
https://twitter.com/BeyondReporter/status/1754640445148185071
Well, this brazilian (portuguese) tweet acts like Alien: Romulus will 100% get something at the Super Bowl.
Quote from: Neila on Feb 08, 2024, 05:50:55 PMQuote from: SiL on Feb 08, 2024, 12:06:55 PMI hate A Quiet Place with a fiery passion. It is the pants-on-head dumbest studio horror movie I've seen in ten years and I refuse to watch anything else to do with it.
wait a minute...
so you've never seen THE Predator???
The Predator is a miserable, unwatchably bad, completely idiotic movie through and through, but I'd argue that there is a bit of a difference between an awful franchise starter that continues on with the same creative team, and an isolated awful installment in a franchise that tends to change hands and directions with each movie anyways.
Quote from: PortugueseXeno on Feb 08, 2024, 05:55:05 PMhttps://twitter.com/BeyondReporter/status/1754640445148185071
Well, this brazilian (portuguese) tweet acts like Alien: Romulus will 100% get something at the Super Bowl.
For what it is worth, this Tweet is three days old. It seems like information that has come to light since then has been saying otherwise about the Super Bowl.
Only time will tell for sure, though.
It has become regular practice to start teasing the new ads/trailers the week before the big game on Sunday. To the point where they dump everything online days before and you can end up seeing it all without watching the game.
A Quiet Place showing this early doesn't tell me that the chances for a Romulus trailer are any higher. They just dropped a Sonic spin-off for Knuckles that was supposed to be a Sunday commercial. There's always a tease for a trailer or a trailer for a trailer these days when it comes to a big film or show. I expect nothing less from Alien, and from what I'm hearing on the inside, they're definitely going all out for it. An event film.
I also don't like A Quiet Place. Found it super frustrating, many reasons of which folks have laid out already. Whenever a new monster movie comes out that I didn't get right to seeing, that general audiences seem to love, I get told I'll love it, then I find I end up not liking it for some reason. Probably over hype.
And just because it has inclusive characters doesn't automatically give it merit to being great. The rest of the film has to deliver too, and A Quiet Place doesn't. No plan on seeing any past the first. I remember having a very heavy "that's it?" after watching it.
Logo officially confirmed!
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So they're actually going with that title?
That upsets you?
Quote from: Slutty Badger on Feb 08, 2024, 08:56:52 PMLogo officially confirmed!
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/2/2a/Alien_-_Romulus_logo.jpg
So we are officially getting the ship trilogy then.
I hope Alien: Spaceship sticks going forward and they get increasingly on the nose. Alien: Joseph Conrad.
Quote from: kwisatz on Feb 08, 2024, 09:43:25 PMThat upsets you?
Everything upsets him, because that upsets more people when he whines.
Quote from: Local Trouble on Feb 08, 2024, 09:37:25 PMSo they're actually going with that title?
Tagline for the movie will be:
"Ice cream, you scream"
Quote from: Mike's Monsters on Feb 08, 2024, 07:59:07 PMand from what I'm hearing on the inside, they're definitely going all out for it. An event film.
An event film?
Interesting, the way you phrased it.
It intrigues me, because at first i thought this movie was going straight to streaming, so maybe it wouldn't have the resources it needed in order to pull incredible VFX.
I loved Prey, but i have to admit that the weak CGI in some parts was a complain of mine and i was fearful for Romulus when it came to that.
But maybe, the studios decided to inject more money once it was announced to get a theatrical release.
Quote from: PortugueseXeno on Feb 09, 2024, 09:47:45 AMQuote from: Mike's Monsters on Feb 08, 2024, 07:59:07 PMand from what I'm hearing on the inside, they're definitely going all out for it. An event film.
An event film?
Interesting, the way you phrased it.
It intrigues me, because at first i thought this movie was going straight to streaming, so maybe it wouldn't have the resources it needed in order to pull incredible VFX.
I loved Prey, but i have to admit that the weak CGI in some parts was a complain of mine and i was fearful for Romulus when it came to that.
But maybe, the studios decided to inject more money once it was announced to get a theatrical release.
I wouldn't worry. Looking at the film's IMDb page, it's currently being worked on by some of the top professionals in the VFX industry. Weta Digital, ILM (with Oscar winner visual effect supervisors), and many other top VFX houses are involved.
Fortunately, there's plenty of time allocated for post-production as well. Moreover, during the previous year when Hollywood was on hiatus, more VFX resources could be allocated to this movie.
The theatrical release decision may have been made well before the filming started. The filming was pushed back by one month last year.
The budget likely increased, allowing for time and money to be invested in building elaborate sets and hiring skilled professionals and artist.
Quote from: Darkoo on Feb 09, 2024, 10:39:21 AMQuote from: PortugueseXeno on Feb 09, 2024, 09:47:45 AMQuote from: Mike's Monsters on Feb 08, 2024, 07:59:07 PMand from what I'm hearing on the inside, they're definitely going all out for it. An event film.
An event film?
Interesting, the way you phrased it.
It intrigues me, because at first i thought this movie was going straight to streaming, so maybe it wouldn't have the resources it needed in order to pull incredible VFX.
I loved Prey, but i have to admit that the weak CGI in some parts was a complain of mine and i was fearful for Romulus when it came to that.
But maybe, the studios decided to inject more money once it was announced to get a theatrical release.
I wouldn't worry. Looking at the film's IMDb page, it's currently being worked on by some of the top professionals in the VFX industry. Weta Digital, ILM (with Oscar winner visual effect supervisors), and many other top VFX houses are involved.
Fortunately, there's plenty of time allocated for post-production as well. Moreover, during the previous year when Hollywood was on hiatus, more VFX resources could be allocated to this movie.
The theatrical release decision may have been made well before the filming started. The filming was pushed back by one month last year.
The budget likely increased, allowing for time and money to be invested in building elaborate sets and hiring skilled professionals and artist.
Yeah, a few weeks/months ago, i did see that WETA and ILM were going to be working on Alien: Romulus, but my doubts regarding the budget were still there.
I don't know if the movie will be good or not, but hopefully it's not a box office bomb that completely kills off the franchise like Covenant almost seemed to.
Quote from: PortugueseXeno on Feb 09, 2024, 10:41:49 AMI don't know if the movie will be good or not, but hopefully it's not a box office bomb that completely kills off the franchise like Covenant almost seemed to.
Covenant wasn't a bomb. It still made bank, only it didn't do nearly as well as
Prometheus.
Quote from: Slutty Badger on Feb 09, 2024, 10:53:56 AMQuote from: PortugueseXeno on Feb 09, 2024, 10:41:49 AMI don't know if the movie will be good or not, but hopefully it's not a box office bomb that completely kills off the franchise like Covenant almost seemed to.
Covenant wasn't a bomb. It still made bank, only it didn't do nearly as well as Prometheus.
Movies need a 2.5 multiplier right?
The budget from Covenant was between 97-111 million, so if we were to act as if the budget was 97 then it's multipler would be 242,5 million to a box office of 240 million.
Sill, doesn't look good to me, since in the bafre minimum of budget, the movie didn't give the studio much money in terms of profit.
Covenant probably broke even, if you factor in digital sales, cable rights and merchandising. But it was diminishing returns following Prometheus. Chances are a third prequel would do even worse numbers.
Basically you divide domestic box office by two and international by three.
Very simplified calculation in case of Covenant will be: 37 ($74,262,031 divided by 2) plus 55 ($166,629,732 divided by three) equals 92 million. Covenant's budget was 111 million. 92 minus 111 = minus 19 million (which is not bad) after theatrical release. Mind you that I didn't consider marketing cost and profits made from DVD/Blu ray and streaming services + MOD.
Quote from: Slutty Badger on Feb 09, 2024, 10:53:56 AMQuote from: PortugueseXeno on Feb 09, 2024, 10:41:49 AMI don't know if the movie will be good or not, but hopefully it's not a box office bomb that completely kills off the franchise like Covenant almost seemed to.
Covenant wasn't a bomb. It still made bank, only it didn't do nearly as well as Prometheus.
Indeed.
Quote"It got great reviews and was everything we set out for it to be, it just didn't hit the note at the box office. It will be a profitable film for the studio but whether there's another one [is uncertain]." - Fred Baron, 20th Century Fox
I have it on good authority that some of the marketing hasn't even started being built yet as of this morning. So again, really not expecting much at the moment or this weekend. Would love to be wrong. Just try not to get hopes too high, so if nothing comes to light over the weekend, it won't be as rough!
Always good to read Mike's comment about Romulus :D
https://twitter.com/mikes_monsters/status/1756040722480873830
Just wait 'til I can talk about it more. I've had some big developments. :-X
https://x.com/drewmcweeny/status/1756064158028865598?s=46&t=Pc6F0Q6Zl4Kt0Lo9NIo_Aw
Quote from: Serpico Jones on Feb 09, 2024, 09:32:37 PMhttps://x.com/drewmcweeny/status/1756064158028865598?s=61&t=rv05ze1KDrOvRX51VQ2elA
Wait what??? That is not what I was expecting here, I figured somewhere more directly in between
Alien and
Aliens.
Intrtesting... This almost makes me wonder if we might be seeing some direct Special Order 937 repercussions...
:-X
Quote from: Nightmare Asylum on Feb 09, 2024, 09:34:10 PMWait what??? That is not what I was expecting here, I figured somewhere more directly in between Alien and Aliens.
Well, technically, it's still between the two films, even if it is at the very start of that period.
And hey, I wanted this puppy to take place immediately or almost immediately after
Covenant, so what can I do.
Quote from: Slutty Badger on Feb 09, 2024, 09:45:58 PMQuote from: Nightmare Asylum on Feb 09, 2024, 09:34:10 PMWait what??? That is not what I was expecting here, I figured somewhere more directly in between Alien and Aliens.
Well, technically, it's still between the two films, even if it is at the very start of that period.
And hey, I wanted this puppy to take place immediately or almost immediately after Covenant, so what can I do.
By "more directly" I just meant that I expected it to be more square in the middle, like
Isolation was. Wasn't expecting it to be tethered so directly to either end of that 57 year gap.
Hell, now I'm almost wondering if the salvage crew might straight up be (unsuccessfully) looking for the Nostromo/Narcissus.
EDIT: Gonna take it another step further and say, Big Chap never did die, technically......
EDIT 2: Acknowledgement from Asbell:
https://twitter.com/steveasbell/status/1756072317220983154
Quote from: Mike's Monsters on Feb 09, 2024, 08:55:36 PMJust wait 'til I can talk about it more. I've had some big developments. :-X
@PortugueseXeno ^
Quote from: Nightmare Asylum on Feb 09, 2024, 09:48:24 PMGonna take it another step further and say, Big Chap never did die, technically......
Thinking more about this, and taking into mind some of Mike's comments about the design of the Alien in
Romulus not being quite the OG design.
Big Chap would presumably be pretty damaged after being blown out into space by the Narcissus' thrusters. If the salvage crew in
Romulus arrives at the point in space where the Nostromo was expected to be, and the Nostromo obviously isn't there but a mangled/melted Big Chap is there floating in space and hitches a ride towards the main setting where
Romulus does take place, and we slowly see Big Chap evolve/reform back into his "proper" state over the course of the film...
I dig it.
Big Chap, a.k.a Kane's Son, morphing into a Cameronish warior?
I don't dig it.
Oki doki :)👍
Morphing into a Queen?
Also don't dig it.
I don't see it necessarily becoming a Cameron Alien (or a Queen, for that matter), but rather, returning to its Alien form or maybe even something a slight step beyond that (with some differences due to scarring/melting/parts growing back a bit differently than they were before [like a lizard's tail]).
Das it mane. 8)
If the Company is involved in any capacity it would be a nice link to put faces to those behind Special Order 937.
I dont think Big Chap will be picked up. That would just be an incredibly lazy way of reintroducing the creature. I'd still prefer they find them on the derelict Covenant.
Big Chap is looking likely.
Unless they go with the unused ending of Alien where there are eggs on the underside of the Narcissus as it flies away at the end.
Quote from: TheBATMAN on Feb 09, 2024, 10:27:47 PMI'd still prefer they find them on the derelict Covenant.
I second. Too bad it's not going to happen.
Quote from: SiL on Feb 09, 2024, 10:31:20 PMBig Chap is looking likely.
Unless they go with the unused ending of Alien where there are eggs on the underside of the Narcissus as it flies away at the end.
That would surely undermine Aliens when the salvage team went over the lifeboat cm by cm, unless you are suggesting an Out of the Shadows type scenario?
Quote from: TheBATMAN on Feb 09, 2024, 10:34:30 PMQuote from: SiL on Feb 09, 2024, 10:31:20 PMBig Chap is looking likely.
Unless they go with the unused ending of Alien where there are eggs on the underside of the Narcissus as it flies away at the end.
That would surely undermine Aliens when the salvage team went over the lifeboat cm by cm, unless you are suggesting an Out of the Shadows type scenario?
To paraphrase the lady in
Predator 2, I don't think they give a shit.
But we'll see. Mike knows.
I can't imagine there being eggs having formed on the Narcissus (I wouldn't expect to see the Narcissus at all. Don't see them touching Ripley in the slightest here, which is good because I certainly wouldn't want them to).
But...
I do wonder about the potential of eggmorphing as a means to get a few more Aliens in on the action, if Fede decides to call back to that scene from Alien's Director's Cut...
Time will tell all.
Mike already said it's not the Narcissus in another thread come to think of it (and no derelict).
I joined this forum when Requiem was in production.. and here we are 16+ years later with a trailer for a new Alien movie coming soon.. a TV series being filmed.. and more Predator movies on the way. What a great time to be a fan!
Also - Mike, tell me all that you know :laugh: :laugh:
Not gonna elaborate or hint at anyone's speculations when it comes to the nitty gritty details. But I am curious how they are going to tie it all together myself.
(https://i.ibb.co/fN56R49/Narcissus.webp)
Big Chap some time later, floating in space, as a salvage crew looking for the last known location of the Nostromo comes through... :)
Quote from: Local Trouble on Feb 09, 2024, 10:08:45 PMQuote from: Mike's Monsters on Feb 09, 2024, 08:55:36 PMJust wait 'til I can talk about it more. I've had some big developments. :-X
@PortugueseXeno ^
Yeah, somebody should rename this thread into "Mike's Monsters tries to drive PortugueseXeno Crazy".
I'm at my limit here.
Quote from: Nightmare Asylum on Feb 09, 2024, 10:12:07 PMQuote from: Nightmare Asylum on Feb 09, 2024, 09:48:24 PMGonna take it another step further and say, Big Chap never did die, technically......
Thinking more about this, and taking into mind some of Mike's comments about the design of the Alien in Romulus not being quite the OG design.
Big Chap would presumably be pretty damaged after being blown out into space by the Narcissus' thrusters. If the salvage crew in Romulus arrives at the point in space where the Nostromo was expected to be, and the Nostromo obviously isn't there but a mangled/melted Big Chap is there floating in space and hitches a ride towards the main setting where Romulus does take place, and we slowly see Big Chap evolve/reform back into his "proper" state over the course of the film...
At the end of the day, it all depends on the execution, but i am not going to lie, the Big Chap being the Xeno from Alien: Romulus, at first seems kind of silly, fan-servicey and breaks the immersion.
Whether the new cast of characters goes to the Nostromo's last known location or not, the possibility of Big Chap stumbling upon their ship after drifting in space is a little too much for me.
It seems lazy, forced, dumb luck (or bad luck for the characters) and too much of a coincidence in order to set the plot of the story going, but like i said, it would depend on the execution.
Just because they go to a place where the Narcissus was, that doesn't mean that they would stumble upon the Big Chap, giving how vast space is, so this just makes space look smaller to me.
Also, seeing a Xeno molt/evovle into a new caste (just like Number 6 in the AvP game) is a really cool concept, so that is something that i wouldn't mind seeing in a movie.
It's simple.
Ripley blows Big Chap out of the Narcissus and flies away.. minutes later the cast of Romulus is floating through space and our favorite Xeno hits the windshield. Our characters realize they've hit something and all make a pact to never discuss this again, take it the grave!
However.. Big Chap is still alive.. and it wants revenge.
And maybe this is the plot of I Know What You Did Last Summer.
If it survived, it really puts the whole surviving in the vacuum thing to bed.
Quote from: Nightmare Asylum on Feb 09, 2024, 10:12:07 PMBig Chap would presumably be pretty damaged after being blown out into space by the Narcissus' thrusters. If the salvage crew in Romulus arrives at the point in space where the Nostromo was expected to be, and the Nostromo obviously isn't there but a mangled/melted Big Chap is there floating in space and hitches a ride towards the main setting where Romulus does take place, and we slowly see Big Chap evolve/reform back into his "proper" state over the course of the film...
Sounds far-fetched :) Wasn't Big Chap approaching the end of its lifecycle at the end?
There are two possibilities...either Big Chap was going to die before Ripley interrupted the dude...or it was going to transform itself into a civilized being, capable of imitating human voices and building a pyramid used as a reproduction temple.
Second possibility ...
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Quote from: Nightmare Asylum on Feb 09, 2024, 11:01:56 PM(https://i.ibb.co/fN56R49/Narcissus.webp)
Big Chap some time later, floating in space, as a salvage crew looking for the last known location of the Nostromo comes through... :)
There was even a fan-made short film I think🙃👉👈
https://x.com/drewmcweeny/status/1756115461081866732?s=61&t=rv05ze1KDrOvRX51VQ2elA
Quote from: SiL on Feb 07, 2024, 11:18:56 PMIt gives me hope that the series will exist as a kind of what if bit of fun and not be intended as fully connected to the movie series.
What it should have been after 92 tbh
Quote from: Ingwar on Feb 09, 2024, 11:32:55 PMQuote from: Nightmare Asylum on Feb 09, 2024, 10:12:07 PMBig Chap would presumably be pretty damaged after being blown out into space by the Narcissus' thrusters. If the salvage crew in Romulus arrives at the point in space where the Nostromo was expected to be, and the Nostromo obviously isn't there but a mangled/melted Big Chap is there floating in space and hitches a ride towards the main setting where Romulus does take place, and we slowly see Big Chap evolve/reform back into his "proper" state over the course of the film...
Sounds far-fetched :) Wasn't Big Chap approaching the end of its lifecycle at the end?
That was the implication at the time, yeah, but the Alien life cycle has since dropped that short lifespan angle so I don't think that original intent would really have any drastic effect on anything here.
Would be a fun callback/nod to that original idea to have the Alien molting/shifting form as the film progresses, though.
Quote from: TheBATMAN on Feb 08, 2024, 09:26:03 AMI still dont see how a Spoiler
crashed Weyland-Yutani ship on Earth in the 2070's - 2090's that spills xenomorph eggs into a city environment
Sure you can talk cover ups and suchlike, but it would change everything about the original trilogy and I dont think that's a positive thing. They tried it once with AVP as a prequel and the majority of people never took to it.
I dont see the harm in this purely being its own thing. Let it run riot in its own universe using the rich depth of source material available without being bound by the films.
I think it makes total sense. It just needs to be all destroyed by the time the show ends, and someone from Wey Yu puts out a Special Order, and the Orgianl Trilogy continues on like usual.
I still feel like anything that puts Aliens on earth prior to the original films (while attempting any connection to them) cheapens Ripleys arc too much. Didn't like it with AvP, we'll see how much connective tissue there is to the franchise at large here I guess.
Quote from: PortugueseXeno on Feb 09, 2024, 11:06:23 PMthe Big Chap being the Xeno from Alien: Romulus, at first seems kind of silly, fan-servicey and breaks the immersion.
It sounds exceedingly cringe. The majority of this forum will therefore no doubt love it.
I dunno... The idea of finding one of these things just floating in space just sounds like it could be incredibly eerie to me. Can it be tacky, revisiting Big Chap itself? Of course it can be. But as a concept I think it could have some real meat on its bones with the right execution.
It's also something I could imagine Ridley getting giddy about when Fede pitched it to him all those years ago, and something that probably would have stuck with him enough to make him give Fede a call when it came time to get a new Alien movie off the ground.
Anyways, it's interesting too to think about those reports of Fede consulting with Cameron in addition to Ridley, since it seems like (based on what we have so far) this is hitched much closer to Alien than it is to Aliens. That being said, there was also absolute reverence to Alien in how Cameron executed Aliens, especially in the elements of that film that he replicated on screen, like the Narcissus; it's going to be interesting to peel back the layers once all is said and done and maybe learn a bit more about what those conversations with Cameron were like, in addition to Ridley's role as producer.
Anyways, whatever this thing ends up being, I'm in on it and along for the ride at this point. In Fede I trust.
I can't wait for the trailer to have some slow, maudlin rendition of the classic theme, just like the trailers for Ghostbusters 3 and Indy 5 did. My eyes practically rolled out of my head when they did that. I might finally lose them altogether this time.
There is so much more you all don't know yet. It's not so simple.
Quote from: Nightmare Asylum on Feb 10, 2024, 02:14:58 AMIn Fede I trust.
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Quote from: Mike's Monsters on Feb 10, 2024, 02:21:23 AMThere is so much more you all don't know yet. It's not so simple.
@PortugueseXeno is liable to show up at your house if you keep on with that kind of talk.
If it's about Big Chap that's the most Reddit brained thing I've ever heard. The universe literally has no end, surely there's eggs and spores and black goo and god knows what else sitting in some cave in the ass end of space for some poor idiot to come across that doesn't need to be tied to any film.
Honestly God tier trailers.
Doubt we will get anything that good again, or even a cover this wonderful.
Quote from: Nightmare Asylum on Feb 09, 2024, 10:25:19 PMI don't see it necessarily becoming a Cameron Alien (or a Queen, for that matter), but rather, returning to its Alien form or maybe even something a slight step beyond that (with some differences due to scarring/melting/parts growing back a bit differently than they were before [like a lizard's tail]).
That sounds...AWESOME.
The way you've pitched it gives me a Godzilla Minus One/Shin Godzilla vibe, where the creature is this unstoppable regenerative force.
As with many others here, Big Chap is my goat. I've been wanting to see a return to the Giger Alien design for too bloody long. The idea that the smugglers in this story salvage Big Chap... I dunno, it's so wild I can't help but be behind it.
We know Fede is a classy filmmaker. It's not exactly gonna be executed cheaply like Jason x.
Very excited by this recent speculation/developmemt ;D
Getting a little ahead of ourselves...
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Getting a little ahead of ourselves...
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Yep! ;D couldn't help but get carried away and pour a little bit more gasoline over it all
I'm kinda ok with Big Chap being used again but it feels kinda like sacrilege to have him molt into the warrior variant or a queen. It feels mainly bad to make him a warrior considering Ginger wasn't really a fan of their head design in Aliens. If he's ever used again he should just look the way he does in the first movie or at least a bit damaged
Quote from: BlueMarsalis79 on Feb 09, 2024, 11:32:24 PMIf it survived, it really puts the whole surviving in the vacuum thing to bed.
Xenomorphs can definitely survive in vacuum.
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Quote from: Slutty Badger on Feb 10, 2024, 09:06:14 AMQuote from: BlueMarsalis79 on Feb 09, 2024, 11:32:24 PMIf it survived, it really puts the whole surviving in the vacuum thing to bed.
Xenomorphs can definitely survive in vacuum.
In the movies it's ambiguous.
The EU is clear on the matter, yes, films, no.
Quote from: Nightmare Asylum on Feb 10, 2024, 02:14:58 AMI dunno... The idea of finding one of these things just floating in space just sounds like it could be incredibly eerie to me. Can it be tacky, revisiting Big Chap itself? Of course it can be. But as a concept I think it could have some real meat on its bones with the right execution.
It's also something I could imagine Ridley getting giddy about when Fede pitched it to him all those years ago, and something that probably would have stuck with him enough to make him give Fede a call when it came time to get a new Alien movie off the ground.
Anyways, it's interesting too to think about those reports of Fede consulting with Cameron in addition to Ridley, since it seems like (based on what we have so far) this is hitched much closer to Alien than it is to Aliens. That being said, there was also absolute reverence to Alien in how Cameron executed Aliens, especially in the elements of that film that he replicated on screen, like the Narcissus; it's going to be interesting to peel back the layers once all is said and done and maybe learn a bit more about what those conversations with Cameron were like, in addition to Ridley's role as producer.
Anyways, whatever this thing ends up being, I'm in on it and along for the ride at this point. In Fede I trust.
But the thing is that it feels too forced and breaks the immersion.
Space is suposed to be vast and mysterious, that is why the firt movie was so scary, because in the planet of god knows where, there was an ancient and unknown derelict ship that contained an even more mysterious and dangerous cargo.
But the first movie still managed to ground it by making sure that the characters had an exact transmission and coordinates to that ship.
But if Big Chap drifting through space happens to stumble upon the cast of Romulus, then that is simply too lazy of a premise.
How can space feel vast, if a floating xeno and ship make contact, that is like "one in a million" type of coincidence.
Besides, PerfectOrganism podcast leaked a few months ago that the movie would start on a planet and then move to a space station, so this Big Chap premise doesn't seem likely, but we never know.
But the fact that Ridley Scott stayed with Fede's premise stuck in his head, could very well mean that you may right, since that is a very direct relation to his movie.
But when i heard that this movie was between Alien and Aliens, i thought that whatever connection wiuld be made between all of these movies, would be through The Company and their schemes, and not the Big Chap directly.
If this premise does end up being the film's launching point, I don't think it would be that the Alien has been drifting and just so happens to bump into the salvage crew's ship by random happenstance. I think the crew would be explicitly looking around in the area where the Nostromo was for the Nostromo, leading them to the exact area where the Alien still is. Much less of a coincidence when the characters are at that specific point in space with intent.
Quote from: Nightmare Asylum on Feb 10, 2024, 11:55:48 AMI think the crew would be explicitly looking around in the area where the Nostromo was for the Nostromo, leading them to the exact area where the Alien still is. Much less of a coincidence when the characters are at that specific point in space with intent.
But that is still too much of a coincidence.
The Xeno is suposed to be drifting in space, it's not stuck in an exact coordinate like the derelict was, so it feels kind of forced for our characters to find it.
Like i said, space is supposed to be vast, so the "looking around in the area" makes space feel smaller.
Let Ripley keep her W and not (unintenionally) condemn some poor souls (cast of Romulus) who will now have to deal with her leftovers.
But i did love your idea of the evolving/molting Xeno.
I would be surprised if its just Big Chap, haven't facehuggers been confirmed in this? If so then I can't see how the huggers come into play without a queen. Eggmorphing would be the only option.
Damn, the OST/soundtrack for the trailer of the Alien: Roleplaying game is incredible.
I wouldn't mind a teaser for Alien: Romulus to have something like this.
Quote from: 426Buddy on Feb 10, 2024, 12:09:41 PMI would be surprised if its just Big Chap, haven't facehuggers been confirmed in this? If so then I can't see how the huggers come into play without a queen. Eggmorphing would be the only option.
Yep, there's a facehugger in the one promo pic we have from last year's Alien Day.
Quote from: Nightmare Asylum on Feb 10, 2024, 11:55:48 AMIf this premise does end up being the film's launching point, I don't think it would be that the Alien has been drifting and just so happens to bump into the salvage crew's ship by random happenstance. I think the crew would be explicitly looking around in the area where the Nostromo was for the Nostromo, leading them to the exact area where the Alien still is. Much less of a coincidence when the characters are at that specific point in space with intent.
I don't see how that's possible, given that the Alien was flung out of the
Narcissus' engine at roughly the speed of light and incinerated.
OMG, please tell me that this is NOT the setup!
it's just people speculating. based on very flimsy things that have been said.
same thing we always do
This is all very, very fascinating and quite nostalgic too for me personally.
The reason being all this talk of Big Chap surviving reminds me back in 1979 when my elder brother having seen the film, told a much younger me how the Alien was indestructible - that is, it didn't die at the end. Now of course we know (after many more films) that yes they can be killed but I like the idea of Big Chap, whilst toasted up, somehow surviving and then adapting to something more which would tie in nicely with Ash's perfect organism monologue about Structural perfection.
I think it's an awful idea quite frankly and i'll be utterly staggered if that is what they go with.
Drew McWeeny's tweets are interesting though. He seems like he knows some details when he hinted this takes place in the immediate aftermath of Alien.
I guess time has finally come:
Spoiler
Egg on Nostromo
Quote from: kwisatz on Feb 10, 2024, 01:04:43 PMI guess time has finally come:
Spoiler
Egg on Nostromo
Did Bishop put it there?
I see you like it already.
Quote from: kwisatz on Feb 10, 2024, 01:37:17 PMI see you like it already.
But is Bishop an android?
You're asking the right questions.
Quote from: Nightmare Asylum on Feb 10, 2024, 02:46:03 PMQuote from: kwisatz on Feb 10, 2024, 01:37:17 PMI see you like it already.
But is Bishop an android?
(https://y.yarn.co/cb88764a-abfc-4b92-b95a-704d0d8efa55_text.gif)
Noticing lots of an assumptions are being made off of very little info. There's more going on, and it'll all reveal itself as time allows. Don't start disliking the thing when you don't know exactly what's going on juuuust yet.
Not to say you're required to love it or you're not allowed to dislike it. Just wait and see it to form an opinion first is all I'm saying!
It's not so simple.
I'mma slide into your DMs and get all the infos. >:(
Quote from: Nightmare Asylum on Feb 10, 2024, 01:50:14 AMQuote from: Ingwar on Feb 09, 2024, 11:32:55 PMQuote from: Nightmare Asylum on Feb 09, 2024, 10:12:07 PMBig Chap would presumably be pretty damaged after being blown out into space by the Narcissus' thrusters. If the salvage crew in Romulus arrives at the point in space where the Nostromo was expected to be, and the Nostromo obviously isn't there but a mangled/melted Big Chap is there floating in space and hitches a ride towards the main setting where Romulus does take place, and we slowly see Big Chap evolve/reform back into his "proper" state over the course of the film...
Sounds far-fetched :) Wasn't Big Chap approaching the end of its lifecycle at the end?
That was the implication at the time, yeah, but the Alien life cycle has since dropped that short lifespan angle so I don't think that original intent would really have any drastic effect on anything here.
Would be a fun callback/nod to that original idea to have the Alien molting/shifting form as the film progresses, though.
That would be lazy as f**k ;D Big Chap from
Alien is dead. Come on!
Quote from: Mike's Monsters on Feb 10, 2024, 06:15:53 PMNoticing lots of an assumptions are being made off of very little info. There's more going on, and it'll all reveal itself as time allows. Don't start disliking the thing when you don't know exactly what's going on juuuust yet.
Not to say you're required to love it or you're not allowed to dislike it. Just wait and see it to form an opinion first is all I'm saying!
It's not so simple.
I'm enjoying the speculation, it's nice to see people genuinely excited for one of these again.
I wish I could enjoy it. My heart is too cold and black to be easily reignited.
Loving and encourage the speculation! Just interesting that I've noticed opinions forming over a movie they're making up in their mind. That's not healthy! Wait til you see some stuff before you decide you don't like it. Because the speculations are simply that, and nothing but speculations.
Quote from: Mike's Monsters on Feb 10, 2024, 07:14:48 PMLoving and encourage the speculation! Just interesting that I've noticed opinions forming over a movie they're making up in their mind. That's not healthy! Wait til you see some stuff before you decide you don't like it. Because the speculations are simply that, and nothing but speculations.
But.. but.. Mike.. I've already made up a movie in my head! Fede needs to deliver the movie I imagined!
Kidding aside - agree with ya. It's fun to speculate and theorize but don't let it become an expectation before we've ever seen an official image or footage. Even when you see footage or images, you should always hold final judgment until you've seen the finished product. 8)
Quote from: Mike's Monsters on Feb 10, 2024, 07:14:48 PMLoving and encourage the speculation! Just interesting that I've noticed opinions forming over a movie they're making up in their mind. That's not healthy! Wait til you see some stuff before you decide you don't like it. Because the speculations are simply that, and nothing but speculations.
It's just part of the fun imo, and I don't think NA is overly married to his ideas. He's always coming up with things like that and it's nice. But that's possibly a good reminder to the thread in general.
Yeah, my thought on this being a viable option could be totally squashed by next week. But, right now... it seems to mesh with the tidbits we've gotten! :laugh:
I'm still holding out hope that it'll link up with Covenant in some way. If we're not getting the third prequel, we should at least get something!
Didn't the lead actress say that they were using the Stan Winston designs from Aliens?
Quote from: Serpico Jones on Feb 10, 2024, 08:14:49 PMDidn't the lead actress say that they were using the Stan Winston designs from Aliens?
Not the design, just the team that worked with Stan came back. That being Legacy Effects, which was formally known as Stan Winston Studios.
ADI and another house are on it as well.
And speculate away! Not singling any person out, just pointing out I've noticed a few opinions being formed that were leading away from speculative.
Quote from: Mike's Monsters on Feb 10, 2024, 02:21:23 AMThere is so much more you all don't know yet. It's not so simple.
I get not being able to share stuff but the cryptic teases are killin' me, man.
If they roll with big chap being found, I'm quitting the franchise. lol. At least no more $$$$ for future installments. Done.
I mean.....it robs Ripley's victory in Alien.
@Nightmare Asylum You're officially a source of New Rumours™
(https://i.imgur.com/CYlLYeX.png)
Spoiler
Which one of you jokers posted that lmao :laugh:
How long until Mr. H makes a video about that?
He's making it as we speak.
Damn, Mr. H
Now that is a nostalgic channel for me.
I spent my teens watching his channel and cover up of Alien: Covenant, but now he took the anti-woke grift method and it just looks too miserable for me to watch him anymore.
Don't get me wrong, i'm not a fan of the way Hollywood tries to pander to a "modern audience", but i'm also not the type of person to make that my entire personality.
The comment section of his videos are a complete shitshow though.
I really don't have the patience to deal with culture war BS and see anti-wokes VS wokes lose their minds over political agendas, so i just watch what i like and i'll be dine with it.
Quote from: [cancerblack] on Feb 11, 2024, 04:11:09 AM@Nightmare Asylum
You're officially a source of New Rumours™
https://i.imgur.com/CYlLYeX.png
Spoiler
Which one of you jokers posted that lmao :laugh:
:laugh:
Who's gonna tell 'em that A.) Rampant speculation based on stray details aren't rumors and B.) Zoomers aren't gonna be around by the time
Romulus takes place!
Quote from: Local Trouble on Feb 11, 2024, 04:53:33 AMHow long until Mr. H makes a video about that?
How about a frontpage article at Scified?
According to Scified, this is the poster art.
(https://www.scified.com/movie-posters/thumbs/IMG_20220304_220323.jpg)
:laugh:
Happy Super Bowl Sunday, everyone! I hope we are all ready and prepared to not see a thing today!
We're going to have to settle for an Alien Theory video instead. :'(
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Teaser will reveal Taylor Swift playing a Kerrigan style character.
Quote from: kwisatz on Feb 11, 2024, 01:51:39 PMTeaser will reveal Taylor Swift playing a Kerrigan style character.
Tip for dealing with a Facehugger: shake it off.
:laugh:
Quote from: Nightmare Asylum on Feb 11, 2024, 01:41:00 PMHappy Super Bowl Sunday, everyone! I hope we are all really and prepared to not see a thing today!
I'm keeping my self optimistic, I already have the hype on the clouds and we haven't see anything of the movie yet 😂 this give me nostalgia of both Prometheus and Covenant time when we were expecting impatient for the trailer
Prepare for nothing!
If the game doesn't stop so Taylor Swift can introduce the world-premiere of the trailer, you'll be hearing from me in your DMs. >:(
Actually, just got a text from Taylor. She's on her private jet to my place. She's gonna hit the upload button on YouTube from my place and fly back to the big game so the trailer can drop during half time. 🎉
Quote from: Mike's Monsters on Feb 11, 2024, 06:03:54 PMPrepare for nothing!
Too late.
I'm already gonna screw up my sleep schedule for the next week, just in case there is a possiblity for the teaser to show up. (by staying up late for the super bowl).
It is what it is.
Nah, you know what guys and gals.
I'm confident that Alien: Romulus is gonna get something at the Super Bowl.
I can feel it.
Today is the day!!!
It's gonna turn out that Badlands shot in secret and we're gonna get a trailer for that. But no Romulus.
So what time is this seppo rugby match?
Rumour that Gladiator II might also make an appearance.
Quote from: The Eighth Passenger on Feb 11, 2024, 07:43:23 PMSo what time is this seppo rugby match?
6:30PM EST.
Quote from: The Eighth Passenger on Feb 11, 2024, 07:43:23 PMRumour that Gladiator II might also make an appearance.
Ridley double feature confirmed, then. 8)
Bloody yanks playing ruggers in the middle of the night! >:(
Coverage starts at 10:45PM in my neck of the woods.
Honestly I don't think we'll get anything tonight, I would be happy to be wrong but I just don't think its gonna happen today.
What would you guys & gals do if a genuine trailer were leaked but in camera quality? (happened with Prometheus)
Quote from: Immortan Jonesy on Feb 11, 2024, 11:30:22 PMWhat would you guys & gals do if a genuine trailer were leaked but in camera quality? (happened with Prometheus)
First of all, i would watch it.
Second of all, do you know something we don't?
Quote from: PortugueseXeno on Feb 11, 2024, 11:31:15 PMQuote from: Immortan Jonesy on Feb 11, 2024, 11:30:22 PMWhat would you guys & gals do if a genuine trailer were leaked but in camera quality? (happened with Prometheus)
First of all, i would watch it.
Second of all, do you know something we don't?
Nope, I'm just curious.
Okay this is getting pretty funny now.
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lol
we'll get nothing.
in the meantime,
we can bet on how it'll connect to Alien
- I guess the Romulus station finds a ping from the Narcissus. They go investigate and retrieve the Narcissus. Keep Ripley in stasis. Go through the flight recorder and Ripley's logs. They send someone out to the area of space where the Nostromo blew up.
They scan the area for biological signals. (how? it's scifi, don't worry about it).
They find the creature. Damaged and frozen in the cold depths of space.
They retrieve it, thinking it dead.
It comes back to life. Kills the station, kickstarts a hive via eggmorphing, etc.
The station becomes derelict, floating through space.
A bunch of kids, thinking they're gonna salvage a station and earn big $$$$$$, board the derelict station but... end up getting into trouble when they stir up the hive.
They fight for their lives. A few survive.
The lead character finds the Narcissus (still in storage!) and sets Ripley free.
This will be used to explain why Ripley was out there for 57 years.
Quote from: Slutty Badger on Feb 11, 2024, 01:31:08 PMAccording to Scified, this is the poster art.
https://www.scified.com/movie-posters/thumbs/IMG_20220304_220323.jpg
OK I just hope that this is fake, because I want Biomechanical Xenomorph, not a fleshmorph again. Most likely it is since it from Scified.
It's extremely fake.
Quote from: [cancerblack] on Feb 11, 2024, 11:44:17 PMOkay this is getting pretty funny now.
https://i.gyazo.com/68f93d026648f468deacfba6fe5b6265.png
WHEN DID ANYONE HERE CALL IT A RUMOR :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:
Quote from: [cancerblack] on Feb 11, 2024, 11:44:17 PMOkay this is getting pretty funny now.
https://i.gyazo.com/68f93d026648f468deacfba6fe5b6265.png
This reads like it was written by ChatGPT
Quote from: Nightmare Asylum on Feb 12, 2024, 12:11:34 AMQuote from: [cancerblack] on Feb 11, 2024, 11:44:17 PMOkay this is getting pretty funny now.
https://i.gyazo.com/68f93d026648f468deacfba6fe5b6265.png
WHEN DID ANYONE HERE CALL IT A RUMOR :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:
Never.
Quote from: SiL on Feb 12, 2024, 12:16:38 AMQuote from: [cancerblack] on Feb 11, 2024, 11:44:17 PMOkay this is getting pretty funny now.
https://i.gyazo.com/68f93d026648f468deacfba6fe5b6265.png
This reads like it was written by ChatGPT
I can only assume it was.
Quote from: [cancerblack] on Feb 12, 2024, 12:28:53 AMQuote from: Nightmare Asylum on Feb 12, 2024, 12:11:34 AMQuote from: [cancerblack] on Feb 11, 2024, 11:44:17 PMOkay this is getting pretty funny now.
https://i.gyazo.com/68f93d026648f468deacfba6fe5b6265.png
WHEN DID ANYONE HERE CALL IT A RUMOR :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:
Never.
Quote from: SiL on Feb 12, 2024, 12:16:38 AMQuote from: [cancerblack] on Feb 11, 2024, 11:44:17 PMOkay this is getting pretty funny now.
https://i.gyazo.com/68f93d026648f468deacfba6fe5b6265.png
This reads like it was written by ChatGPT
I can only assume it was.
Hey everyone!
I just came across some electrifying news on AvPGalaxy.net about the upcoming movie Alien: Romulus, and trust me, you're going to want to hear this. Hold onto your space helmets because it looks like the alien in Alien: Romulus is none other than the ORIGINAL Xenomorph from the first movie! Yes, you read that right - the very same alien that Ripley heroically blew out of the shuttle's airlock is making a comeback!
According to the scoop, the storyline will have the crew of the Romulus embarking on a mission to search for the Nostromo. In a twist of fate, they will stumble upon the still living alien drifting through the vastness of space. Can you imagine? The sheer idea of encountering the same beast that haunted the crew of the Nostromo brings a whole new level of excitement and nostalgia!
This news opens up a plethora of questions and theories about how the alien survived in the void of space and what terrifying events will unfold once it's aboard the Romulus. The potential for another heart-stopping adventure in the Alien saga is immense, and I can't wait to see how this plays out on the big screen.
What are your thoughts on this revelation? How do you think the encounter with the original Xenomorph will go down? Share your theories, and let's get the conversation going. This is shaping up to be yet another thrilling entry in the Alien series, and I am here for all of it!
Let the countdown to Alien: Romulus begin! 🌌🛸
What if all of these UFO Super Bowls add are a sneaky and funny way to build up to an Alien Romulus trailer?
Am i coping?
Probably, but the human mind works in mysterious ways.
Nah, that's a sneaky and funny way to build up to project bluebeans.
Quote from: Slutty Badger on Feb 11, 2024, 01:31:08 PMAccording to Scified, this is the poster art.
https://www.scified.com/movie-posters/thumbs/IMG_20220304_220323.jpg
looks kinda AI generated
nvm found the original, just stolen fanart
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No Romulus trailer.
Where's Mike?! >:(
Hiding from you
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Sorry guys. I was watching a movie.
Yeah, probably the rough cut of Romulus! >:(
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The next possible trailer release date could be two weeks from now, before Dune Part 2 premiere.
Probably makes sense to debut a teaser trailer with Dune 2 to capture the attention of science fiction fans in the audience. Plus DUNE 2 is tracking to open to $65M+ domestically. Presales are currently pacing ahead of the advance ticket sales for 'OPPENHEIMER. A trailer of an event movie before an event movie. Perfect timing.
Another interesting tidbit. Both movie filmed in Budapest, Origo Studios, half of the crew worked on both film.
Come'on
@PortugueseXeno , we have to believe in it!
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Be a nice surprise but I'm really not expecting anything until April.
I spent time with some folks over the weekend who confirmed that not much had started moving on the marketing front. Plans have been made, but building of marketing materials hasn't gone full speed ahead juuuuust yet. Expecting springtime.
Really feeling good about Alien Day. The last tease was Alien Day 2023. Why not the same for the next?
Quote from: [cancerblack] on Feb 11, 2024, 11:44:17 PMOkay this is getting pretty funny now.
https://i.gyazo.com/68f93d026648f468deacfba6fe5b6265.png
Oh ffs. :laugh:
I think Dune: Part Two is still too early (though I'm incredibly optimistic/hopeful that we could be getting a second trailer for Furiosa with that one!).
Alien Day does seem like a solid estimate for a tease, with marketing going into full swing with a trailer attaching to 20th Century Studios' other major sci-fi franchise entry this year, Kingdom of the Planet of the Apes.
Quote from: Darkoo on Feb 12, 2024, 08:54:59 AMCome'on @PortugueseXeno (https://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/index.php?action=profile;u=27259) , we have to believe in it!
I can't.
My heart is too broken in order for me to believe it.
I can't believe i actually watched the stupid Super Bowl.
I'm portuguese, even saying "football" when it comes to american wanabee rugby pains my heart.
This isn't even football lmao
New Apes trailer looks really cool, at least!
Quote from: PortugueseXeno on Feb 12, 2024, 12:13:26 PMQuote from: Darkoo on Feb 12, 2024, 08:54:59 AMCome'on @PortugueseXeno (https://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/index.php?action=profile;u=27259) , we have to believe in it!
I can't.
My heart is too broken in order for me to believe it.
I can't believe i actually watched the stupid Super Bowl.
I'm portuguese, even saying "football" when it comes to american wanabee rugby pains my heart.
This isn't even football lmao
You mean soccer right? ⚽️ ;)
'I pronounce it al-u-min-e-um 'cause there's an I next to the U and M. Now write it down slowly. And read it out fast."
Quote from: 426Buddy on Feb 12, 2024, 12:33:02 PMQuote from: PortugueseXeno on Feb 12, 2024, 12:13:26 PMQuote from: Darkoo on Feb 12, 2024, 08:54:59 AMCome'on @PortugueseXeno (https://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/index.php?action=profile;u=27259) , we have to believe in it!
I can't.
My heart is too broken in order for me to believe it.
I can't believe i actually watched the stupid Super Bowl.
I'm portuguese, even saying "football" when it comes to american wanabee rugby pains my heart.
This isn't even football lmao
You mean soccer right? ⚽️ ;)
PortugueseXeno is getting mad
>_<
Quote from: Corporal Hicks on Feb 12, 2024, 11:11:42 AMQuote from: [cancerblack] on Feb 11, 2024, 11:44:17 PMOkay this is getting pretty funny now.
https://i.gyazo.com/68f93d026648f468deacfba6fe5b6265.png
Oh ffs. :laugh:
I love how they spin it as if it's some kind of scoop you've just published as oppposed to
@Nightmare Asylum just stirring up shit. :laugh:
Quote from: The Eighth Passenger on Feb 12, 2024, 02:18:07 PMQuote from: Corporal Hicks on Feb 12, 2024, 11:11:42 AMQuote from: [cancerblack] on Feb 11, 2024, 11:44:17 PMOkay this is getting pretty funny now.
https://i.gyazo.com/68f93d026648f468deacfba6fe5b6265.png
Oh ffs. :laugh:
I love how they spin it as if it's some kind of scoop you've just published as oppposed to @Nightmare Asylum just stirring up shit. :laugh:
I saw someone post their speculation about Big Chap's return on Twitter, and in the comments some rando with no followers jumped in to yell at them, screeching into the void that Big Chap's return is already an established rumor and claiming that the speculating account is trying to cash in on said rumor for clout. :laugh:
Quote from: Nightmare Asylum on Feb 12, 2024, 02:24:14 PMI saw someone post their speculation about Big Chap's return on Twitter, and in the comments some rando with no followers jumped in to yell at them, screeching into the void that Big Chap's return is already an established rumor and claiming that the speculating account is trying to cash in on said rumor for clout. :laugh:
I love how you just trolled the entire internet with a bit of random speculation in this thread. ;D
Giant Freaking Robot will be running with this next. :laugh:
Quote from: Nightmare Asylum on Feb 12, 2024, 02:24:14 PMQuote from: The Eighth Passenger on Feb 12, 2024, 02:18:07 PMQuote from: Corporal Hicks on Feb 12, 2024, 11:11:42 AMQuote from: [cancerblack] on Feb 11, 2024, 11:44:17 PMOkay this is getting pretty funny now.
https://i.gyazo.com/68f93d026648f468deacfba6fe5b6265.png
Oh ffs. :laugh:
I love how they spin it as if it's some kind of scoop you've just published as oppposed to @Nightmare Asylum just stirring up shit. :laugh:
I saw someone post their speculation about Big Chap's return on Twitter, and in the comments some rando with no followers jumped in to yell at them, screeching into the void that Big Chap's return is already an established rumor and claiming that the speculating account is trying to cash in on said rumor for clout. :laugh:
You have open the Pandora's box lmao, so now there is no going back.
Might as well embrace the meme and go full Dark Brandon.
Let me know when We Got This Covered confirms it.
I read on 4chan that Big Chap is back.
Don't know who their source is but what an interesting development!
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DM Mike for details. He'll tell you everything you want to know.
Quote from: Gazz on Feb 12, 2024, 07:33:23 PMI read on 4chan that Big Chap is back.
Don't know who their source is but what an interesting development!
I do love a crossover episode.
Now you have to decide,
@Nightmare Asylum:
Eternal Internet fame for being the Big Chap's alive dude or:
Spoiler
an actual good film
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Quote from: Local Trouble on Feb 12, 2024, 07:43:24 PMDM Mike for details. He'll tell you everything you want to know.
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Nothing about the trailer yesterday, that's a shame because I was having a great day and it would be excellent finish it with the trailer :laugh: just left keep waiting, I think that it will come in Alien Day. In another thread, I hope Neca launch an series of figures from Romulus this year
I think I've read a few times big chap is back...is this rumor or confirmed?
Quote from: solace97 on Feb 13, 2024, 11:08:51 PMI think I've read a few times big chap is back...is this rumor or confirmed?
Neither. Just speculation.
Quote from: solace97 on Feb 13, 2024, 11:08:51 PMI think I've read a few times big chap is back...is this rumor or confirmed?
It was made up on this very forum, it's not even a rumour.
If only
Big Chap in Romulus would be like Rexy in Jurassic World movies :laugh:
I'd still be willing to put (a small amount of) money on it that Big Chap does happen though, based on what little we know so far. ;)
Quote from: Nightmare Asylum on Feb 14, 2024, 12:42:24 AMI'd still be willing to put (a small amount of) money on it that Big Chap does happen though, based on what little we know so far. ;)
From what we know could be also the Queen in the bottom of sea on Antarctica from AvP 😂
How'd she get to space tho?
Quote from: [cancerblack] on Feb 14, 2024, 02:47:19 AMHow'd she get to space tho?
(https://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/4UwAAOSw1jVjOg0a/s-l1200.webp)
Man I miss that stupid thing. Great toy as a kid.
Quote from: Immortan Jonesy on Feb 14, 2024, 12:32:29 AMBig Chap in Romulus would be like Rexy in Jurassic World movies :laugh:
f**k that.
My Dear Rexy, what have they done to her.
They took that one moment where she kills the two raptors in the original and turned that to eleven in the World sequels.
They tried to make dinosaurs feel like superheroes instead of animals, but then they also make Rexy to be a total pushover that gets her ass kicked by every new big dinosaur.
Thank God, David Koepp is back to write the 2025 sequel.
Another problem with the original Alien being in this movie - it would break the tradition of each instalment featuring a different type.
Prometheus broke the tradition of bringing in a new director for each film. Covenant broke the tradition of alphabetizing android names.
Traditions are made for breaking. ;)
Quote from: Nightmare Asylum on Feb 14, 2024, 12:42:24 AMI'd still be willing to put (a small amount of) money on it that Big Chap does happen though, based on what little we know so far. ;)
It's defo confirmed. It's all over the interwebz. ;)
Quote from: Nightmare Asylum on Feb 14, 2024, 12:42:24 AMI'd still be willing to put (a small amount of) money on it that Big Chap does happen though, based on what little we know so far. ;)
Spoiler
Quote from: Nightmare Asylum on Feb 14, 2024, 01:42:21 PMPrometheus broke the tradition of bringing in a new director for each film. Covenant broke the tradition of alphabetizing android names.
Traditions are made for breaking. ;)
One is still unbroken, though - each movie has had a different composer.
Quote from: Nightmare Asylum on Feb 14, 2024, 02:55:39 AMQuote from: [cancerblack] on Feb 14, 2024, 02:47:19 AMHow'd she get to space tho?
https://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/4UwAAOSw1jVjOg0a/s-l1200.webp
I had this when I was a kid ! Cool to see it again :)
Quote from: Slutty Badger on Feb 14, 2024, 01:31:15 PMAnother problem with the original Alien being in this movie - it would break the tradition of each instalment featuring a different type.
Prometheus not only broke that tradition, but also created the short tradition of not having Alien at all.
Quote from: Immortan Jonesy on Feb 14, 2024, 09:52:21 PMPrometheus not only broke that tradition, but also created the short tradition of not having Alien at all.
Uh, the Protomorph?
Quote from: Slutty Badger on Feb 14, 2024, 09:58:39 PMQuote from: Immortan Jonesy on Feb 14, 2024, 09:52:21 PMPrometheus not only broke that tradition, but also created the short tradition of not having Alien at all.
Uh, the Protomorph?
There's no Alien in Prometheus. The closest thing is the Deacon.
Yeah, the Deacon and Neomorphs are not Aliens.
What is Alien? It's a matter of definition. And problem with definitions in general is that we, as humans can change them which impacts our perception of reality.
If Deacon and Neomorphs are not Aliens, then what are they?
Quote from: Ingwar on Feb 14, 2024, 10:58:46 PMWhat is Alien? It's a matter of definition. And problem with definitions in general is that we, as humans can change them which impacts our perception of reality.
If Deacon and Neomorphs are not Aliens, then what are they?
Other alien organisms. But they're not the "Alien", as in xenomorph.
Yup. Taxonomically speaking they're not 'The Alien' aka Xenomorph :) : Plagiarus praepotens (for example: Big Chap), Plagiarus linesteres (Alien from Planet 4).
Deacons / Neomorphs are Alien-like aliens. ;D
They are undoubtedly related to the Alien (like pumas and lions), but they are not the same species.
Yeah, I know. They're not the "Alien" but nonetheless they're alien species which technically speaking is still quintessence of Alien movies. We just take it for granted that it must be the "Alien". At least for me it doesn't really matter if it's Xeno or other aliens. They are all, well ... aliens.
Quote from: Ingwar on Feb 14, 2024, 11:26:02 PMYeah, I know. They're not the "Alien" but nonetheless they're alien species which technically speaking is still quintessence of Alien movies. We just take it for granted that it must be the "Alien". At least for me it doesn't really matter if it's Xeno or other aliens. They are all, well ... aliens.
The Alien is the distinguishing feature. Without it why bother calling it Alien?
Prometheus doesn't have the Xenomorph species. It has extraterrestrial beings of other related species. It is the only movie that doesn't have a single Xenomorph. This is how the conversation started.
Quote from: Ingwar on Feb 14, 2024, 11:26:02 PMAt least for me it doesn't really matter if it's Xeno or other aliens. They are all, well ... aliens.
By that logic, the Newborn and Xenomorph (or even the Predator 😅) are one and the same.
To put it in perspective: Tyrannosaurs were dinosaurs, but not all dinosaurs were Tyrannosaurs.
And again, we are not discussing whether or not Prometheus has extraterrestrial life forms, but rather the absence of Xenos in the movie.
I'm not disagreeing with you both and I know what you mean. I just have different approach. Alien as a monster in the first movie is just a metaphor of something unworldly or simply ... alien to us humans. Movie Alien doesn't really care how we call it (an alien, thing or whatever) because it's not important. Aliens unfortunately changed that. Paying huge attention to those names kills the spirit of it. To be honest, all those names, Xenomorph, Protomorph, Deacon, Neomorph are silly. Couldn't care less :)
Predator is not part of the franchise :)
The lion doesn't care that we classify it as a lion. That doesn't mean the animal is the same as a Tiger...and humans classify them based on the genetic information. Same with the Alien. Nobody is talking about metaphors, only you.
We want elephant man.
Quote from: Ingwar on Feb 14, 2024, 11:47:42 PMMovie Alien doesn't really care how we call it (an alien, thing or whatever) because it's not important. Aliens unfortunately changed that. Paying huge attention to those names kills the spirit of it.
Aliens didn't put any emphasis on the name. It's not about the name. It's about the creature itself, regardless of what it's called.
Alien movies should have Aliens (xenomorphs, whatever the hell) in them. If it's just aliens, it might as well be something else.
Quote from: Immortan Jonesy on Feb 14, 2024, 11:52:19 PMThe lion doesn't care that we classify him as a lion. That doesn't mean the animal is the same as a Tiger...just because the creautre doesn't care that humans classify it based on its genetic information. Same with the Alien. Nobody is talking about metaphors, only you.
I'm not talking if the creature cares or not how we call it. I'm talking about the spirit of the movie. And
Alien as a title itself is a metaphor, at least for me.
Quote from: SiL on Feb 14, 2024, 11:58:17 PMAlien movies should have Aliens (xenomorphs, whatever the hell) in them. If it's just aliens, it might as well be something else.
Of course it should have Aliens in them. I simply don't pay attention to those names. They're secondary for me.
I understand the metaphor, but it adds nothing to the original conversation. The species to which Kane's son belongs exists. Prometheus doesn't have the creature invented / designed by Dan O'Bannon / H.R Giger. Why I repeat this?...cos is the conversation we were having! :laugh:
You say you agree. Perfect, so why continue diverting the subject? Do you just want to get the last word or something? :)
Quote from: kwisatz on Feb 14, 2024, 11:55:44 PMWe want elephant man.
We all want that my friend :'(
Quote from: kwisatz on Feb 14, 2024, 11:55:44 PMWe want elephant man.
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Quote from: Immortan Jonesy on Feb 15, 2024, 12:39:16 AMYou say you agree. Perfect, so why continue diverting the subject? Do you just want to get the last word or something? :)
Because I agree regarding terminology and so on. But again, it's simply not important to me as Alien fan. And obviously I don't want to have the last word (or something). I just shared my take on it. Nothing else :)
Don't know if anyone has posted this but here's the spoiler info about the gruesome scene that Isabella Marced was talking about recently.
https://www.worldofreel.com/blog/2024/2/14/6cnjbokxjy1y6lpu1ypa5ezs9n1otk
Quote from: Nightmare Asylum on Feb 15, 2024, 12:43:46 AMQuote from: kwisatz on Feb 14, 2024, 11:55:44 PMWe want elephant man.
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If only Dallas had Fifield's balls, he would have discovered what's inside.
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Quote from: Ingwar on Feb 15, 2024, 12:46:00 AMQuote from: Immortan Jonesy on Feb 15, 2024, 12:39:16 AMYou say you agree. Perfect, so why continue diverting the subject? Do you just want to get the last word or something? :)
Because I agree regarding terminology and so on. But again, it's simply not important to me as Alien fan. And obviously I don't want to have the last word (or something). I just shared my take on it. Nothing else :)
Oki doki :)
Quote from: Serpico Jones on Feb 15, 2024, 12:53:57 AMDon't know if anyone has posted this but here's the spoiler info about the gruesome scene that Isabella Marced was talking about recently.
https://www.worldofreel.com/blog/2024/2/14/6cnjbokxjy1y6lpu1ypa5ezs9n1otk
;D
Ah, arse-bursters.
Quote from: SiL on Feb 15, 2024, 01:35:57 AMQuote from: Serpico Jones on Feb 15, 2024, 12:53:57 AMDon't know if anyone has posted this but here's the spoiler info about the gruesome scene that Isabella Marced was talking about recently.
https://www.worldofreel.com/blog/2024/2/14/6cnjbokxjy1y6lpu1ypa5ezs9n1otk
;D
Ah, arse-bursters.
If I have enough dairy I get those too.
Quote from: Serpico Jones on Feb 15, 2024, 12:53:57 AMDon't know if anyone has posted this but here's the spoiler info about the gruesome scene that Isabella Marced was talking about recently.
https://www.worldofreel.com/blog/2024/2/14/6cnjbokxjy1y6lpu1ypa5ezs9n1otk
The spoiler is fake news. Don't fall for it.
Sounds like someone pulled that out of their ass.
Besides, Dreamcatcher did that already. The military even dubbed the alien "the Ripley, after that broad in the Alien movies".
I think it's best to also point the person writing the article says "I'm pretty sure I know what the scene is", meaning they are just guessing and have no actual source of that info. The scene is not anything like the person is imagining up at all.
Quote from: Mike's Monsters on Feb 15, 2024, 08:41:32 AMI think it's best to also point the person writing the article says "I'm pretty sure I know what the scene is", meaning they are just guessing and have no actual source of that info. The scene is not anything like the person is imagining up at all.
I know you can't say much about the movie, but do you know exactly what scene she was talking about ?
Yes.
Do you feel she exaggerates a bit for promotion, or do you feel it's pretty accurate and will shock many people ?
Can't speak to that unfortunately. I think that'll depend on the individual watching. I find myself not looking away from things many claimed as intense or too much with Fede's Evil Dead. But then other movies out there get me to look away with something simple like a needle being used just right.
It wasn't a butt burster situation, that's for sure.
When you hear about people fainting watching Alien, remember a lot of that was Ash's head coming off, not the burster.
It'll be interesting to see what it is.
@Mike's Monster
I'm guessing that the budget of Romulus isn't as high as Prometheus and Covenant's so my question is: does it have high quality look or does it look slightly cheaper if you know what I mean?
What's estimated budget anyway?
Mike, i have a question for you since you are a photographer, in case you can and want to.
Without spoiling, how would you rank Galo Olivarez's cinematography of Alien Romulus in comparison with the other entries of the franchise?
Is it "bland" or does it have a visiually impressive aesthetic?
https://www.galoolivares.com/
He has a very stylized and unique style.
Quote from: SiL on Feb 15, 2024, 09:58:00 AMWhen you hear about people fainting watching Alien, remember a lot of that was Ash's head coming off, not the burster.
It'll be interesting to see what it is.
lol just posted something very similar in another thread before seeing this. Yep. So it's all on the individual.
It visually looked like it was going for ALIEN. Won't elaborate as my visual taste is much different than others. The sets don't look cheap.
I likely won't give my takes on comparing to the rest of the franchise or where it slots on my best to least favorite list. Don't want to give any info that may mislead or misdirect, as I may not line up with what a certain person wants or likes. I have my hopes as a fan, but someone else might have other wants.
Quote from: Mike's Monsters on Feb 15, 2024, 06:08:45 PMThe sets don't look cheap.
I think this is something that will give people some hope, since when the movie was first thought to be released to streaming and when the Alien Day pic was released.
Some people criticized the set, saying that it looked cheap.
So, it's good to hear this.
I honestly can't wait to see more of the set and production of this movie.
There's a lot they haven't shown yet. Interiors and exteriors. They built a lot more that people are expecting and all the sets looked fantastic.
I would like to know more.
Quote from: Mike's Monsters on Feb 15, 2024, 06:39:29 PMThere's a lot they haven't shown yet. Interiors and exteriors. They built a lot more that people are expecting and all the sets looked fantastic.
One of these days, you are going to wake up in the middle night and see me in the corner of your room, looking at you, while holding a truth serum in one hand and a tissue with chloroform in the other.
Quote from: PortugueseXeno on Feb 15, 2024, 07:06:16 PMOne of these days, you are going to wake up in the middle night and see me in the corner of your room, looking at you, while holding a truth serum in one hand and a tissue with chloroform in the other.
Yeah. And I gave him the grappling hook!
I'm a very light sleeper, SO GOOD LUCK!
I was surprised by how many actual sets were built for this. I'm sure there is going to be digital extensions and additions in the final product, but there was a lot being done with the sets in camera.
Quote from: Mike's Monsters on Feb 15, 2024, 08:20:03 PMI'm a very light sleeper, SO GOOD LUCK!
I was surprised by how many actual sets were built for this. I'm sure there is going to be digital extensions and additions in the final product, but there was a lot being done with the sets in camera.
Cool! Very much in keeping with the rest of the franchise.
Mike - any idea of what's the ballpark of the budget in this?
Inside baseball stuff but.. around Covenant? A bit less?
No idea. Some movies can look incredible with no budget, and like shit with a big budget. It looked like a high quality production with the sets, but no idea what the dollar amount behind it is.
Quote from: PortugueseXeno on Feb 15, 2024, 07:06:16 PMQuote from: Mike's Monsters on Feb 15, 2024, 06:39:29 PMThere's a lot they haven't shown yet. Interiors and exteriors. They built a lot more that people are expecting and all the sets looked fantastic.
One of these days, you are going to wake up in the middle night and see me in the corner of your room, looking at you, while holding a truth serum in one hand and a tissue with chloroform in the other.
lol the vibes ;D
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https://twitter.com/thevscooper/status/1758298986203480409
apparently romulus and remus were brothers who was both "raised by wolves".
Quote from: Darkoo on Feb 16, 2024, 08:24:08 AMhttps://twitter.com/thevscooper/status/1758298986203480409
"... damaged elements"
Big Chap ;)
Yeah what's up with that ?
"Damaged elements." 8)
Do it, you cowards!
Gotta say, the more I contemplate it the more I like it.
Perfect Organism and all...
Plus in this case designwise it would have to be the Alien.
Just hope that random scooper's source isn't here and/or 4chan. :laugh:
Quote from: Nightmare Asylum on Feb 16, 2024, 11:31:58 AMJust hope that random scooper's source isn't here and/or 4chan. :laugh:
I sincerely hope you get all the credit and infamy for this ;D ;D ;D
Quote from: Prez on Feb 16, 2024, 11:58:24 AMQuote from: Nightmare Asylum on Feb 16, 2024, 11:31:58 AMJust hope that random scooper's source isn't here and/or 4chan. :laugh:
I sincerely hope you get all the credit and infamy for this ;D ;D ;D
But if it is, then that means there's a chance it might not be real. :'(
I want to believe...
Quote from: Prez on Feb 16, 2024, 11:58:24 AMQuote from: Nightmare Asylum on Feb 16, 2024, 11:31:58 AMJust hope that random scooper's source isn't here and/or 4chan. :laugh:
I sincerely hope you get all the credit and infamy for this ;D ;D ;D
Ahem... I was speculating on this a few months back...
(https://i.postimg.cc/mZF6Rydf/IMG-2848.jpg)
... but I concede Nightmare Asylum has popularised the theory!
Quote from: DaveT937 on Feb 16, 2024, 12:52:22 PMhttps://i.postimg.cc/mZF6Rydf/IMG-2848.jpg
Dooooo ittttt
Two independent sources.
It's f*cking happening!
Quote from: Immortan Jonesy on Feb 16, 2024, 01:02:02 PMQuote from: Nightmare Asylum on Feb 16, 2024, 11:24:12 AM"Damaged elements." 8)
Do it, you cowards!
Skull?
Like.. fully visible? :o
But that would upset..
Quote from: DaveT937 on Feb 16, 2024, 12:52:22 PMQuote from: Prez on Feb 16, 2024, 11:58:24 AMQuote from: Nightmare Asylum on Feb 16, 2024, 11:31:58 AMJust hope that random scooper's source isn't here and/or 4chan. :laugh:
I sincerely hope you get all the credit and infamy for this ;D ;D ;D
Ahem... I was speculating on this a few months back...
https://i.postimg.cc/mZF6Rydf/IMG-2848.jpg
... but I concede Nightmare Asylum has popularised the theory!
We'll give you copyright.
Copyright for DavidJockey belongs to Corporal Hicks.
Quote from: The Eighth Passenger on Feb 16, 2024, 01:17:32 PMQuote from: DaveT937 on Feb 16, 2024, 12:52:22 PMQuote from: Prez on Feb 16, 2024, 11:58:24 AMQuote from: Nightmare Asylum on Feb 16, 2024, 11:31:58 AMJust hope that random scooper's source isn't here and/or 4chan. :laugh:
I sincerely hope you get all the credit and infamy for this ;D ;D ;D
Ahem... I was speculating on this a few months back...
https://i.postimg.cc/mZF6Rydf/IMG-2848.jpg
... but I concede Nightmare Asylum has popularised the theory!
We'll give you copyright.
Copyright for DavidJockey belongs to Corporal Hicks.
That's all I ask...
Quote from: The Eighth Passenger on Feb 16, 2024, 01:17:32 PMCopyright for DavidJockey belongs to Corporal Hicks.
I'll make an investment in some stock on that one.
Quote from: The Eighth Passenger on Feb 16, 2024, 01:17:32 PMCopyright for DavidJockey belongs to Corporal Hicks.
Ridley Scott:
'I wanted to scare the shit out of people. That's the job'DavidJockey is scary. Good Job Mr. Scott.
Quote from: Immortan Jonesy on Feb 16, 2024, 01:51:09 PMQuote from: The Eighth Passenger on Feb 16, 2024, 01:17:32 PMCopyright for DavidJockey belongs to Corporal Hicks.
Ridley Scott: 'I wanted to scare the shit out of people. That's the job'
He's certainly succeeding in that! Lots of folk very worried about that third prequel. :laugh:
Damn, the Big Chap return theory/prediction seems to be happening.
Congratulations, Nightmare, for predicting it.
Your idea of a damaged Xeno regenarating/evolving is a cool one and shows a new and unique way to translate what the Pefect Organism is.
But i will not lie, the cast of Romulus stumbling upon a drifitng Big Chap in space still seems forced and lazy to me, so i really need Fede and his crew to come up with something that really makes me think, "Damn, i guess that works.".
Space is suposed to be vast, so the idea that they can find a Xeno drifitng in space simply by going to the last known coordinates of the Nostromo feels a little too convenient.
But at the end of the day, this is not the type of thing that would make me dislike the movie, if everything else is good, but it's kind of a personal irk, so for all i know the movie is still a complete banger.
I love Alien 3 too and the beginning of the movie is also pretty convenient with the way the Queen planted the eggs on the Sulaco.
But good to know that the new Xeno animatronic/suit is "gorgeaus" and the best that it has ever looked.
I'm okay with Big Chap regenerating, but not "evolving." Just stop with that shit, please. Let me bask in the original design for at least one more movie before "fixing" it.
I want the original Alien design back for once too, not another deconstructed version of the creature.
Quote from: Local Trouble on Feb 16, 2024, 05:01:09 PMI'm okay with Big Chap regenerating, but not "evolving." Just stop with that shit, please. Let me bask in the original design for at least one more movie before "fixing" it.
When i meant regenerating/evolving, i didn't necessarily meant into a bigger and badder Xeno.
I was more along the lines of referring to some sort of adaptation to what it previously hurt it, "the damaged elements" that it sustained from the Narcissus, which would give him a slight redesign that showed some sort of improvement.
It could be a cool way to show a new and unique characteristic of the Pefect Organism.
Kind of like DC Comics's Doomsday and his regenaration and adaptability, but
more toned down and grounded, since we don't need the Xeno to become a DC supervillain.
I forget exactly where he said it (I want to say it was in the Alien: Covenant commentary, but it could have been an interview), but Ridley stated that he believes that the Alien that was defeated by Daniels with the crane over Planet 4 would have eventually regrown lost limbs.
Taking that train of thought into mind, it would make perfect sense that modern day Ridley would be totally on board with Big Chap regenerating/healing.
Hell, even the Hammerpedes in Prometheus regenerate from their wounds.
Quote from: Nightmare Asylum on Feb 16, 2024, 05:45:01 PMTaking that train of thought into mind, it would make perfect sense that modern day Ridley would be totally on board with Big Chap regenerating/healing.
Also, the fact that Romulus pitch was something that stayed in his mind after all these years is important too.
Fede's movie is set between Alien and Aliens, so in order for Ridley Scott to feel like it was worth doing, it gives more evidence to this movie being more connected to his movie than James Cameron's.
The Big Chap return would be one heck of connection to his first movie.
I'll say the practical puppet I saw in person at the effect studio had some damage/scarring. The footage I've seen I couldn't see any of that scarring on the puppet. So I'm not entirely sure the full execution yet and how close to final the footage was (very unlikely it's close to final at all). Thought we would have a "hero" xenomorph that was easily identifiable, like Grid in AvP, yet the footage just looked like a clean, nondamaged xeno. That's not to say there won't be digital replacements that I haven't seen yet from the early footage.
Quote from: PortugueseXeno on Feb 16, 2024, 05:59:38 PMQuote from: Nightmare Asylum on Feb 16, 2024, 05:45:01 PMTaking that train of thought into mind, it would make perfect sense that modern day Ridley would be totally on board with Big Chap regenerating/healing.
Also, the fact that Romulus pitch was something that stayed in his mind after all these years is important too.
Fede's movie is set between Alien and Aliens, so in order for Ridley Scott to feel like it was worth doing, it gives more evidence to this movie being more connected to his movie than James Cameron's.
The Big Chap return would be one heck of connection to his first movie.
In addition to Ridley's formal producing role, we do know that Jimbo has chatted/consulted with Fede about the film as well in some capacity.
Quote from: Nightmare Asylum on Feb 16, 2024, 05:45:01 PMI forget exactly where he said it (I want to say it was in the Alien: Covenant commentary, but it could have been an interview), but Ridley stated that he believes that the Alien that was defeated by Daniels with the crane over Planet 4 would have eventually regrown lost limbs.
Yeah, it was in the director's commentary during that scene.
Quote from: Mike's Monsters on Feb 16, 2024, 06:01:35 PMI'll say the practical puppet I saw in person at the effect studio had some damage/scarring. The footage I've seen I couldn't see any of that scarring on the puppet. So I'm not entirely sure the full execution yet and how close to final the footage was (very unlikely it's close to final at all). Thought we would have a "hero" xenomorph that was easily identifiable, like Grid in AvP, yet the footage just looked like a clean, nondamaged xeno. That's not to say there won't be digital replacements that I haven't seen yet from the early footage.
Could definitely see some digital replacements being used for scarring in a situation like that (with what's on the puppet there for reference more than actual practical use), but only time will tell, I guess!
Yeah, the odd thing was the puppet had scarring, and what I saw from the film didn't. So take that what you will.
Quote from: Mike's Monsters on Feb 16, 2024, 06:48:03 PMYeah, the odd thing was the puppet had scarring, and what I saw from the film didn't. So take that what you will.
Maybe it's multiple Xenos.
Maybe "Big Chap/Scarred Xeno" succeeded in creating a new hive in the Romulus space station, which lead to a new Xeno being born.
I think it would be cool to have a twist like Isolation, where the audience (and the characters) think that there is only one Xeno running around, until we learn there is one more.
I mean, I've seen it all. So I know exactly what's going on.
:-X
Quote from: Mike's Monsters on Feb 16, 2024, 06:57:05 PMI mean, I've seen it all. So I know exactly what's going on.
:-X
Ever been to a Portuguese basement?
More times than I'd like to admit...
Quote from: Local Trouble on Feb 16, 2024, 07:01:54 PMQuote from: Mike's Monsters on Feb 16, 2024, 06:57:05 PMI mean, I've seen it all. So I know exactly what's going on.
:-X
Ever been to a Portuguese basement?
One of these days, Mike is going to find himself seeing the beautiful Lisbon sky through the window of a dirty basement.
And i'll say, "Was it worth it?".
To which Mike will respond with, "Maybe...".
Cue Linkin Park.
WHAT I'VE DONE!!!!!
There's gonna be a lot to talk about come August.
Quote from: Immortan Jonesy on Feb 16, 2024, 01:02:02 PMQuote from: Nightmare Asylum on Feb 16, 2024, 11:24:12 AM"Damaged elements." 8)
Do it, you cowards!
Skull?
Skull directly exposed after part of the head was obliterated by the Narcissus, of course. Just like
@Local Trouble requested!
Any links to Covenant whatsoever?
As stated before, they are connected to the prequels and that was confirmed by that Perfect Organism posting on the boards before. Won't say how or why, but remember it is all one franchise and connected story, even if we like that or not. So of course they're are links to previous films, but the question is how. And you'll all find out in August.
Quote from: Mike's Monsters on Feb 16, 2024, 09:51:43 PMAnd you'll all find out in August.
Imagine the movie gets delayed.
Incoming suicide watch for AvPGalaxy.
Quote from: Mike's Monsters on Feb 16, 2024, 09:51:43 PMWon't say how or why
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Quote from: Local Trouble on Feb 16, 2024, 09:57:03 PMQuote from: Mike's Monsters on Feb 16, 2024, 09:51:43 PMWon't say how or why
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Wake me up in August.
I'm going to need a cryogenic sleep or else Mike is going down.
Quote from: Mike's Monsters on Feb 16, 2024, 09:51:43 PMAs stated before, they are connected to the prequels and that was confirmed by that Perfect Organism posting on the boards before. Won't say how or why, but remember it is all one franchise and connected story, even if we like that or not. So of course they're are links to previous films, but the question is how. And you'll all find out in August.
Brilliant! You have made my day.
Quote from: Local Trouble on Feb 16, 2024, 09:57:03 PMQuote from: Mike's Monsters on Feb 16, 2024, 09:51:43 PMWon't say how or why
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Quote from: Nightmare Asylum on Feb 16, 2024, 10:00:16 PMQuote from: Local Trouble on Feb 16, 2024, 09:57:03 PMQuote from: Mike's Monsters on Feb 16, 2024, 09:51:43 PMWon't say how or why
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Give me elephant space man (not engineer) or give me death.
Quote from: PortugueseXeno on Feb 16, 2024, 10:01:00 PMGive me elephant space man (not engineer) or give me death.
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Y'all can keep guessing. Nothing I've said confirms anything you've all been speculating. 8)
Quote from: Mike's Monsters on Feb 16, 2024, 10:03:51 PMY'all can keep guessing. Nothing I've said confirms anything you've all been speculating. 8)
Nothing confirms, for sure, but a couple elements in this one...
Quote from: Mike's Monsters on Dec 05, 2023, 07:17:34 PMMaybe when he sees the events in the film with his own eyes it'll finally click then. But I've found there's more connection to the first films than originally believed. Depends on how they market it, but from the first frames of the new one, we know it's tied to the first movies. Just depends if or how they're gonna show any of that connection in marketing materials.
...definitely have me continuing to steer in a certain direction. ;)
I'll continue to be as vague as vague can be!
Quote from: Mike's Monsters on Feb 16, 2024, 10:07:52 PMI'll continue to be as vague as vague can be!
And confirm who got the Big Chap theory right first, when the time is right... ;)
I'll definitely be able to confirm if any drastic changes came from the reshoots in August.
It puts the lotion on its skin or it gets the hose again. >:(
Quote from: Mike's Monsters on Feb 16, 2024, 10:13:50 PMI'll definitely be able to confirm if any drastic changes came from the reshoots in August.
This is something I'll definitely be interested in learning more about, when the time comes.
Quote from: DaveT937 on Feb 16, 2024, 12:52:22 PMQuote from: Prez on Feb 16, 2024, 11:58:24 AMQuote from: Nightmare Asylum on Feb 16, 2024, 11:31:58 AMJust hope that random scooper's source isn't here and/or 4chan. :laugh:
I sincerely hope you get all the credit and infamy for this ;D ;D ;D
Ahem... I was speculating on this a few months back...
https://i.postimg.cc/mZF6Rydf/IMG-2848.jpg
... but I concede Nightmare Asylum has popularised the theory!
That's Hollywood. We all know the original creators never get the credit they deserve ;)
So theory that sees Big Chap make a comeback is a thing huh ? I don't know if I like that idea or not yet.
It's certainly a theory. Doesn't mean it's correct or true.
Quote from: Mike's Monsters on Feb 16, 2024, 10:43:37 PMIt's certainly a theory. Doesn't mean it's correct or true.
Out of curiosity, random question for you (unrelated to
Romulus): Since you're also in the know about elements of Blomkamp's script/treatment/pitch, did you ever see anything related Walter Hill's? Or did that not really get far enough to amount to anything internally, with Sigourney passing on it almost immediately?
Quote from: Nightmare Asylum on Feb 16, 2024, 10:50:28 PMQuote from: Mike's Monsters on Feb 16, 2024, 10:43:37 PMIt's certainly a theory. Doesn't mean it's correct or true.
Out of curiosity, random question for you (unrelated to Romulus): Since you're also in the know about elements of Blomkamp's script/treatment/pitch, did you ever see anything related Walter Hill's? Or did that not really get far enough to amount to anything internally, with Sigourney passing on it almost immediately?
Wish I did! I've got nothing on that one unfortunately. Hopefully with time, that'll see the light of day too.
I'd love to see what Giler and hill would have come up with in this day and age.
Quote from: Nightmare Asylum on Feb 16, 2024, 10:02:03 PMQuote from: PortugueseXeno on Feb 16, 2024, 10:01:00 PMGive me elephant space man (not engineer) or give me death.
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I like the prequels as standalones and with the headcannon that David created an "offshoot" version of the Xenomorphs.
With that in mind, i can apreciate the Engineers and their aesthetic as long as they worship the Space Jockeys and based their culture and tecnhology around them.
But i can't find myself to like the theory of SpaceJockey = David.
Quote from: PortugueseXeno on Feb 16, 2024, 11:15:24 PMWith that in mind, i can apreciate the Engineers and their aesthetic as long as they worship the Space Jockeys and based their culture and tecnhology around them.
The worshipping is definitely one angle, but I'd actually prefer the Engineers and the Space Jockey forms to be one and the same, with various levels of biomechanical alteration/augmentation done on an individual basis.
Also, i will laugh my ass off if the Big Chap doesn't come back.
We're already treating it as canon lmao, when for all we know nothing even remotely close will happen.
Nobody's treating it as canon, that's the joke
Quote from: SiL on Feb 17, 2024, 12:34:41 AMNobody's treating it as canon, that's the joke
Yeah, i know, that was kind of a joke too.
It's more along the lines of how he talked so much about it, this Big Chap return prediction has invaded twitter, 4chan, multiple threads in AvPGalaxy.
But also, when you start to meme and joke about something too much, it's because deep down, a part of you/us believes it.
Quote from: Nightmare Asylum on Feb 16, 2024, 11:18:08 PMQuote from: PortugueseXeno on Feb 16, 2024, 11:15:24 PMWith that in mind, i can apreciate the Engineers and their aesthetic as long as they worship the Space Jockeys and based their culture and tecnhology around them.
The worshipping is definitely one angle, but I'd actually prefer the Engineers and the Space Jockey forms to be one and the same, with various levels of biomechanical alteration/augmentation done on an individual basis.
While I prefer Pilots as separate entities from the Engineers, although coexisting in the same universe, I like the idea of Engies modifying their biology through genetic experimentation. However, I'd prefer if the Bio-punk Engineers were another subspecies with their own separate culture from the main civilization. Maybe even antagonistic to each other.
(https://i.ibb.co/PG8M6yD/Picsart-24-02-16-21-59-30-819.jpg)
I kinda want to see Big Chap come back in a 1:1 recreation of his original design if only to show the Alien Isolation fans that it could still be done effectively without the big chonky jaw and stupid digitigrade legs.
^ Bring back the shoes!
(https://i.ibb.co/qycF85T/the-feet-from-the-xenomorph-costume-from-alien-1979-v0-yzu18oo2gewb1.jpg)
Just needs a pedicure is all.
Quote from: Mike's Monsters on Feb 16, 2024, 06:48:03 PMYeah, the odd thing was the puppet had scarring, and what I saw from the film didn't. So take that what you will.
EGGMORPHINGG!!
Quote from: BigDaddyJohn on Feb 15, 2024, 09:45:27 AMDo you feel she exaggerates a bit for promotion, or do you feel it's pretty accurate and will shock many people ?
Based on what I'm aware of, I'm actually quite interested to see how this scene turns out!
Yeah me too. I'm genuinely more and more excited about this movie.
Quote from: Corporal Hicks on Feb 17, 2024, 09:27:47 AMQuote from: BigDaddyJohn on Feb 15, 2024, 09:45:27 AMDo you feel she exaggerates a bit for promotion, or do you feel it's pretty accurate and will shock many people ?
Based on what I'm aware of, I'm actually quite interested to see how this scene turns out!
Damn, you know things too.
You know what that means, get him BOYS!!!
Quote from: Local Trouble on Feb 17, 2024, 02:48:42 AMI kinda want to see Big Chap come back in a 1:1 recreation of his original design if only to show the Alien Isolation fans that it could still be done effectively without the big chonky jaw and stupid digitigrade legs.
The original thinner jaw should come back. The silly feet, not so much. Stompy's feet and extra joint worked well. Could be shorter the that of the aliens in Fireteam Elite or AvP2010. But not the weird heel feet of the original.
The original jaw is chonky as hell, it only got thinner from A3 onwards (even then mostly AR onwards).
Bring back the weird spur feet.
Not to the degree it is in Isolation.
Quote from: BlueMarsalis79 on Feb 20, 2024, 09:20:02 AMNot to the degree it is in Isolation.
You're right, it's
bigger in
Alien.
(https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcTvAoCPK8Lbe09lJub_VLpNguF6uooxhxz_EA&usqp=CAU)
(https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcSVVjWHtwBxrmrvTUFM6zVn6jHNPebawyvMOw&usqp=CAU)
I always thought it proportionally in Isolation larger and more squared off, in relation to the rest of the head, especially from front on.
(https://www.avpgalaxy.net/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2018/08/cover1-701x478.jpg)
(https://www.hidefninja.com/community/attachments/alien_fac-jpg.437707/)
Big Chap's jaw fills his entire mouth and is basically a long, chunky rectangle. Boy thicc.
I wonder how the xeno/xenos will be portrayed in Romulus.
Old school style/slower type, or more aggressive style.
Hopefully in unpredictable ways; slowly and stealthily but also quickly and violently when it is required.
And the hands! bring back the hands!
(https://i.ibb.co/6F0Zt2f/Alien-mesoskeleton-removebg-preview.png)
The creepiest hands IMO. I love it.
Quote from: Immortan Jonesy on Feb 20, 2024, 02:47:08 PMHopefully in unpredictable ways; slowly and stealthily but also quickly and violently when it is required.
Hopefully like a predatory bug (inb4). Slow, cautious movements, a lot of gently sensing the air, then rapid fire bursts of too-fast movement.
Quote from: [cancerblack] on Feb 20, 2024, 07:40:54 PMQuote from: Immortan Jonesy on Feb 20, 2024, 02:47:08 PMHopefully in unpredictable ways; slowly and stealthily but also quickly and violently when it is required.
Hopefully like a predatory bug (inb4). Slow, cautious movements, a lot of gently sensing the air, then rapid fire bursts of too-fast movement.
Yeah, this seems like the best way.
Quote from: Immortan Jonesy on Feb 20, 2024, 02:47:08 PMHopefully in unpredictable ways; slowly and stealthily but also quickly and violently when it is required.
And the hands! bring back the hands!
https://i.ibb.co/6F0Zt2f/Alien-mesoskeleton-removebg-preview.png
It's a shame Mike can't tell you guys more about how Big Chap returns and only ever uses Jazz Hands techniques to kill people this time. The "Jazz Hands Crush" and "Jazz Hands Chop" scenes are going to be brutal.
Supposedly some of the more advanced Jazz Hands scenes are going to have the hands replaced by CGI, but for the most part he's just going to be doing that pose every single time we see him. It's going to be horrifying.
(https://i.gyazo.com/698367d3fea2e16454a7d82fa523459b.png)
Dammit, I forgot! That's a Jazz Hands-able offence! :o
Quote from: Local Trouble on Jan 10, 2018, 11:39:56 AMQuote from: Biomechanoid on Jan 10, 2018, 11:12:48 AM"Having Jazz Hands doesn't mean you're gay, it just means you like having sex with men." ~ Oscar Wilde
Well, there you go. The Alien likes to have sex with men (and women and dogs and oxen...).
For my personal taste, this is the perfect Alien. I hope Romulus Alien look this great :D
(https://i.ibb.co/5stVMCm/markus-pansegrau-homesweethome.jpg)
(https://i.ibb.co/Z8rVNFK/unnamed-2.jpg)
(https://i.ibb.co/GHfr3x5/ALIEN-Giger-Base-side.jpg)
Then they'll remove its head and find David inside.
"Dammit, no wonder Ridley was so keen on the idea for this movie!!"
Quote from: Kailem on Feb 20, 2024, 08:36:55 PMQuote from: Immortan Jonesy on Feb 20, 2024, 02:47:08 PMHopefully in unpredictable ways; slowly and stealthily but also quickly and violently when it is required.
And the hands! bring back the hands!
https://i.ibb.co/6F0Zt2f/Alien-mesoskeleton-removebg-preview.png
It's a shame Mike can't tell you guys more about how Big Chap returns and only ever uses Jazz Hands techniques to kill people this time. The "Jazz Hands Crush" and "Jazz Hands Chop" scenes are going to be brutal.
Supposedly some of the more advanced Jazz Hands scenes are going to have the hands replaced by CGI, but for the most part he's just going to be doing that pose every single time we see him. It's going to be horrifying.
Didn't the Jazz hands almost crush Brett's head in the extended scene or something?🤔
Yep. They're not just for show!
Quote from: Local Trouble on Feb 20, 2024, 09:06:01 PMQuote from: Local Trouble on Jan 10, 2018, 11:39:56 AMQuote from: Biomechanoid on Jan 10, 2018, 11:12:48 AM"Having Jazz Hands doesn't mean you're gay, it just means you like having sex with men." ~ Oscar Wilde
Well, there you go. The Alien likes to have sex with men (and women and dogs and oxen...).
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Hot take: the Xenomorph used to be Tennessee!
Even wears the hat.
Quote from: Slutty Badger on Feb 20, 2024, 09:39:33 PMHot take: the Xenomorph used to be Tennessee!
Even wears the hat.
First correct speculation. Sorry to spoil it for everyone, but Slutty Badger figured out the connection. The hat on the Xeno actually worked so well. It's the scariest it's ever been thanks to that damn hat. I've not been able to sleep since seeing that hat creep around the corner...
In terms of behavior: I'm in agreement of hoping to see more of the stealthy, silent, big-chap xeno. I've always loved how creepy and eerily quiet the xeno is in the first film (even the warriors somewhat in Aliens as well). And I've often been somewhat annoyed by how overly loud and squealy they are in later films/games.
Quote from: Cosmic Incubation on Feb 20, 2024, 11:10:06 PMIn terms of behavior: I'm in agreement of hoping to see more of the stealthy, silent, big-chap xeno. I've always loved how creepy and eerily quiet the xeno is in the first film (even the warriors somewhat in Aliens as well). And I've often been somewhat annoyed by how overly loud and squealy they are in later films/games.
I think that's more to do with game mechanics. If you couldn't hear the Xenos coming in
Isolation and
Fireteam Elite, then those games would be impossible.
On the movie front, the Praetomorph in
Covenant is less intelligent and more feral than the traditional Xeno, so that's why it's louder and more bullish.
Nah, they've all been loud since they stopped featuring motion trackers. Gotta announce their presence somehow.
Quote from: SiL on Feb 21, 2024, 10:02:23 AMNah, they've all been loud since they stopped featuring motion trackers. Gotta announce their presence somehow.
Both
Isolation and
Fireteam Elite feature motion trackers. Tch. Talk about a lack of media literacy...
They've squealed a lot since Aliens. AvP & AvPR especially.
Quote from: Slutty Badger on Feb 21, 2024, 10:08:34 AMBoth Isolation and Fireteam Elite feature motion trackers. Tch. Talk about a lack of media literacy...
I'm talking about the films, but I acknowledge I didn't make that clear.
Quote from: Mike's Monsters on Feb 21, 2024, 10:09:53 AMThey've squealed a lot since Aliens. AvP & AvPR especially.
To be fair in
Aliens it was mostly when getting shot.
The AvPs are the worst offenders for screeching to alert people to their presence.
Quote from: Mike's Monsters on Feb 21, 2024, 10:09:53 AMThey've squealed a lot since Aliens. AvP & AvPR especially.
I dunno, Big Chap was pretty pissed when Ripley gassed it.
And when attacking Dallas, and when getting shot.
But he didn't stomp his way to Lambert and Parker like the games, or screech to announce his presence like later films.
Quote from: Slutty Badger on Feb 20, 2024, 09:39:33 PMHot take: the Xenomorph used to be Tennessee!
Even wears the hat.
TENNESSEE JOCKEY YOUR TIME HAS COME AGAIN
(https://i.imgur.com/u0CODal.jpg)
The worst noise is in AVP during the Celtic grid fight. The xeno makes a comical squealing pig sound as it struggles to get back up off the floor.
Big Chap was mostly silent when attacking. Brett got the silent treatment also.
Quote from: BigDaddyJohn on Feb 21, 2024, 12:45:35 PMBig Chap was mostly silent when attacking. Brett got the silent treatment also.
The warriors in Aliens were silent when attacking; they only squealed when getting shot. I don't remember the Dragon making much noise either.
Also, the Cloned Xenos were pretty stealthy.
The Dragon did make more than Chap for sure. When smelling Ripley in the infirmary for example.
And I'm pretty sure he squeals when trying to follow Ripley when she's climbing the wall before
Dillon sacrifices himself.
I think he makes noise when he grabs the guy on the ladder who sets fire and blow up everything.
Good God yes to the original hands, feet, and jaw. The MORE I see the digitigrade the worse it looks. I would argue most movie monsters have that element. Humanize the alien's outward appearance a little more. The further away it goes, the less interesting it is. It just looks like everything else.
Quote from: BlueMarsalis79 on Feb 20, 2024, 10:58:40 AMI always thought it proportionally in Isolation larger and more squared off, in relation to the rest of the head, especially from front on.
https://www.avpgalaxy.net/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2018/08/cover1-701x478.jpg
https://www.hidefninja.com/community/attachments/alien_fac-jpg.437707/
The top image is perfect jaw.
The noise in Alien 3 was mostly once his presence was known, correct? Was he hissing in the dark and abandoning stealth like the stupid AVP aliens?
Nope he wasn't.
I'd very much agree that the AVP films are the worst offender on the squealing xenos, and kind of seem like the point when that became super apparent (even though I like the first film).
Then it seems like much of the games and media that came after modeled their xenos behavior after those films' and fed into the problem.
Stompy in Isolation isn't too bad, although I think has points of being a lil much. Very much forgivable and not really bothering though.
Stompy clearly earns his name.
Necessary for the type of game they were trying to make.
Quote from: TheBATMAN on Feb 21, 2024, 12:30:31 PMThe worst noise is in AVP during the Celtic grid fight. The xeno makes a comical squealing pig sound as it struggles to get back up off the floor.
that's absolutely true.
But in the end it was some predi fans who squealed a lot when Grid destroyed the two Preds.
;D
I love Alien Isolation but now I wish that Stompy would just hide in a corner every now and then like in the first film and wait for Amanda to arrive and attack her.
that would be awesome.
Once I actually had such an encounter in the game, although of course it was a mistake.
it was in survival mode level "the basement"
Stompy hadn't shown up for a while and I crept into the dark server room
and wanted to hide behind a box.
Suddenly I saw Stompy's tail lying on the ground and when I looked up he was already in front of me and grabbed me. As I said, probably a small hitch in the game because it never happened like that again and I play the game a lot,
but it was a violent experience.
:D
I think it is interesting to speculate as to why this new film will have "Romulus" in the title.
Romulus of course is the twin brother of Remus, both founders of Rome. Both were cast out and left to die, but were raised by wolves and founded Rome.
Could Big Chap be the "Romulus" in this film? A being "cast out" (blown out of an airlock), left to die, but then picked up by "wolves?"
From there he uses his "rescuers" as hosts for his children. Maybe this is a stretch, but the idea that big chap will make a return is ripe with potential.
Now, could "Remis" be a "twin brother" that is somehow birthed on the lost Covenant ship? Maybe this is how the prequels will be connected to this mid-quel timeline.
Quote from: razeak on Feb 22, 2024, 03:40:54 AMNecessary for the type of game they were trying to make.
I love the game, but that was a very very bad decision on their part. Was not necessary. You could've had the footstep sounds be a lot more natural and quieter without being silent. It would've been enough. Or make the Alien hiss more instead of the stomps. Or make so that in higher difficulties the stomps are quieter. Let us change the volume of the footsteps in the options menu. I mean, even Fireteam Elite has this, I'll give them my gratitude for that.
Alien Isolations stomps are so frustrating, that they're the only thing that's stopping me from making my perfect Alien horror experience (with mods)... Cause everything can be modded except those bloody sounds. There are some that take the whole sounds away but that's not perfect really...
Quote from: Mike's Monsters on Feb 21, 2024, 10:09:53 AMThey've squealed a lot since Aliens. AvP & AvPR especially.
I know you almost certainly can't answer me about anything regarding Romulus, but I'm gonna make a swing and see if it lands. Does this movie introduce anything new or change from the established lifecycle? Does it show the Alien having new abilities than previous media did? Are there any other aliens in the movie besides Xenomorph XX121?
If you don't want to be specific, you can say if these questions are relevant or if one of the assumptions out of the 3 are correct (without saying which one). You know... Just for fun... :P
Oh yes I agree with your take. That LEVEL wasn't necessary. I feel like SOMETHING had to be there though. Eh. maybe I'll try a silent mod and shit my pants. haha.
The movie introduces a few new ideas. Won't clarify or hint to anything, but it's not 100% things we've seen before.
hoping that the Alien is depicted as very smart..
Quote from: Silent_Sentinel on Feb 22, 2024, 05:47:31 PMI think it is interesting to speculate as to why this new film will have "Romulus" in the title.
Romulus of course is the twin brother of Remus, both founders of Rome. Both were cast out and left to die, but were raised by wolves and founded Rome.
Could Big Chap be the "Romulus" in this film? A being "cast out" (blown out of an airlock), left to die, but then picked up by "wolves?"
From there he uses his "rescuers" as hosts for his children. Maybe this is a stretch, but the idea that big chap will make a return is ripe with potential.
Now, could "Remis" be a "twin brother" that is somehow birthed on the lost Covenant ship? Maybe this is how the prequels will be connected to this mid-quel timeline.
I'm guessing Romulus will be the space station and we'll maybe hear about, but not see, a Remus counterpart.
Yeah, Romulus is almost certainly the literal name of a ship or a station or a planet in the film, but I do like Silent_Sentinel's train of thought regarding what Romulus might thematically/narratively infer as a title.
Quote from: skhellter on Feb 22, 2024, 07:44:39 PMhoping that the Alien is depicted as very smart..
If it's a mainline Xeno, then it should be.
Quote from: Silent_Sentinel on Feb 22, 2024, 05:47:31 PMI think it is interesting to speculate as to why this new film will have "Romulus" in the title.
Romulus of course is the twin brother of Remus, both founders of Rome. Both were cast out and left to die, but were raised by wolves and founded Rome.
Could Big Chap be the "Romulus" in this film? A being "cast out" (blown out of an airlock), left to die, but then picked up by "wolves?"
From there he uses his "rescuers" as hosts for his children. Maybe this is a stretch, but the idea that big chap will make a return is ripe with potential.
Now, could "Remis" be a "twin brother" that is somehow birthed on the lost Covenant ship? Maybe this is how the prequels will be connected to this mid-quel timeline.
This will all make sense in due time.
God that hurts. August can't come soon enough :laugh:
I've been itching to talk about it all. Can't wait for everyone to see it so we can all start chatting.
Quote from: Mike's Monsters on Feb 22, 2024, 08:26:01 PMCan't wait for everyone to see it so we can all start chatting.
I saw it, Mike!!!
Let's discuss it.
That first act, second act and third act were great, don't you think?
Tell me your favorite scene and i will tell you mine...
You know I told you that via DM! ;)
But for real, I won't go spoiling anything for anyone. I want you all to experience it with your own eyes, and not by reading about it online.
I loved the scene of Big Chap regenerate looking at the screen and saying, "Now, tell me young fellas, where is that Ripley bitch and her cat?".
Big Chap had an aussie accent.
Quote from: PortugueseXeno on Feb 22, 2024, 09:21:40 PMBig Chap had an aussie accent.
Now I know you're lying. We all know Big Chap replicated Ripley's voice.
Quote from: Nightmare Asylum on Feb 22, 2024, 09:37:53 PMQuote from: PortugueseXeno on Feb 22, 2024, 09:21:40 PMBig Chap had an aussie accent.
Now I know you're lying. We all know Big Chap replicated Ripley's voice.
That alternative ending idea always intrigued.
The ending itself would be a very memorable and scary one.
I know that the Xeno replicating Ripley's voice had the potential to be very silly, but the idea of that ending is a very interesting one, not to mention eerie.
Of course, that ending would have killed the franchise, since Aliens would never be made, but it's fascinating to think about.
Quote from: Nightmare Asylum on Feb 22, 2024, 09:37:53 PMQuote from: PortugueseXeno on Feb 22, 2024, 09:21:40 PMBig Chap had an aussie accent.
Now I know you're lying. We all know Big Chap replicated Ripley's voice.
Twist.
It was
David's voice.
You guys now have me fully expecting a scene in which Big Chap steps aboard the Romulus, looks around and says; "my, my... so many good souls." :-\
Quote from: 𝔗𝔥𝔢 𝔈𝔦𝔤𝔥𝔱𝔥 𝔓𝔞𝔰𝔰𝔢𝔫𝔤𝔢𝔯 on Feb 23, 2024, 07:54:03 AMYou guys now have me fully expecting a scene in which Big Chap steps aboard the Romulus, looks around and says; "my, my... so many good souls." :-\
That's the spirit.
Forgive my greediness but when the hell are we going to hear more on this or at least get a trailer. August doesn't feel too far away now
Normal marketing is very short windows these days. Most movies have a 3 month window or less with their marketing strategies, so nothing out of the ordinary here.
Expect Spring. The patience will pay off.
Could an official, more detailed synopsis be released before that ?
Quote from: Mike's Monsters on Feb 26, 2024, 01:16:18 AMNormal marketing is very short windows these days. Most movies have a 3 month window or less with their marketing strategies, so nothing out of the ordinary here.
Expect Spring. The patience will pay off.
Is there a chance that we'll see Alien Romulus panel (with exclusive footage) at WonderCon?
This is the next big geek thing that coming in March.
https://www.comic-con.org/wc/
Quote from: BigDaddyJohn on Feb 26, 2024, 09:56:14 AMCould an official, more detailed synopsis be released before that ?
Anything can happen.
Quote from: Darkoo on Feb 26, 2024, 09:59:30 AMQuote from: Mike's Monsters on Feb 26, 2024, 01:16:18 AMNormal marketing is very short windows these days. Most movies have a 3 month window or less with their marketing strategies, so nothing out of the ordinary here.
Expect Spring. The patience will pay off.
Is there a chance that we'll see Alien Romulus panel (with exclusive footage) at WonderCon?
This is the next big geek thing that coming in March.
https://www.comic-con.org/wc/
No idea. March could be considered Spring though. I know Collider has been teasing a panel they're hosting, but it could be anything.
https://twitter.com/colliderfrosty/status/1761131060841042391?s=46
Having attended a ton of Wondercons over the years for work, I can't say I'd expect anything from a big IP like ALIEN being shown off there. It's more comics, and muuuch smaller films, if any. And with a lot of companies pulling out of advertising at SDCC last year during the strike, it's hard to say how they'll be going forward this year on marketing at expo events like these conventions. But we will find out soon enough.
CinemaCon, on the other hand, is set for April.
April feels right.
Quote from: Nightmare Asylum on Feb 26, 2024, 11:23:54 AMCinemaCon, on the other hand, is set for April.
This is way more likely than Wondercon for me, for sure.
Well, i sure hope Alien: Romulus gets a nice theatrical run at the box office, but looking at that Horizon: An American Saga trailer...
That will put butts on seats, and to be fair the trailer has a lot of heart and it does look pretty epic.
I wouldn't be surprised if these Horizon movies revive the Western genre.
Horizon will probably be the Top Gun: Maverick of this year and bring out all the boomers to the theaters.
Hopefully, Alien proves itself to be a good counter-watch to Horizon, because otherwise it will get overwhelmed at the box office.
Horizon Part 1 will be released on June while Part 2 will release on the same day of Romulus' release.
Quote from: PortugueseXeno on Feb 26, 2024, 07:16:28 PMHorizon will probably be the Top Gun: Maverick of this year and bring out all the boomers to the theaters.
Horizon: An American Saga looks fantastic and I bet it will indeed have that sort of appeal, but I also think there's a fair chance that
Gladiator 2 could play that card as well.
Quote from: Nightmare Asylum on Feb 26, 2024, 07:40:41 PMHorizon: An American Saga looks fantastic and I bet it will indeed have that sort of appeal, but I also think there's a fair chance that Gladiator 2 could play that card as well.
I am pretty optimistic about the Gladiator 2 quality (which is a hot take), but i don't think Gladiator will have that much of a nice box office run.
But Horizon really has the vibes and potential to be the next Top Gun.
Top Gun had the cool and superficial fantasy of being a jet fighter pilot, which americans (and countless people all over the world, myself included) eat up for breakfest.
Horizon will probably tap into that "patriotic" and grandiose feel of americans settling in and paving the way for future generations, not to mention that given how few westerns have been lately, it will probably feel like a special event, not to mention that the production of this movie looks great.
I am confident in Alien: Romulus quality, but i would be lying if i didn't say that Horizon Part 2 scares me when it comes to Alien's box office.
If Horizon Part 1 proves itself to be a good movie with a good word of mouth, then the box office and opening weekend for Horizon Part 2 will probably be even better.
Quote from: Nightmare Asylum on Feb 26, 2024, 07:40:41 PMQuote from: PortugueseXeno on Feb 26, 2024, 07:16:28 PMHorizon will probably be the Top Gun: Maverick of this year and bring out all the boomers to the theaters.
Horizon: An American Saga looks fantastic and I bet it will indeed have that sort of appeal, but I also think there's a fair chance that Gladiator 2 could play that card as well.
Happy about Horizon, pretty big production for my home state.
Quote from: PortugueseXeno on Feb 26, 2024, 08:20:14 PMI am confident in Alien: Romulus quality, but i would be lying if i didn't say that Horizon Part 2 scares me when it comes to Alien's box office.
I hope people won't get turned off too much by their last experience with Alien Covenant, which was far from massively celebrated, and that it will not keep them from going in theaters.
Alien: Romulus & Horizon will likely have very different audiences during opening weekend. Definitely some crossover but I wouldn't worry too much about Horizon taking away from the box office for Romulus.
If Romulus has a good marketing run and above all else is a good movie it has a great shot at making good money. I imagine the budget is between Prey & Covenant (65 -100 million) so it won't require much to make some money.
But of course.. box office has been incredibly strange especially this past year. Even the best movies lose money sometimes.
Dammit, I cannot wait until we get a trailer for this.
Quote from: Nightmare Asylum on Feb 26, 2024, 11:23:54 AMCinemaCon, on the other hand, is set for April.
Mark your calendar ;)
(https://i.ibb.co/60FfpmP/cinemacon2024.png)
https://cinemacon.com/schedule#horizontalTab5
My one concern with CinemaCon is that oftentimes, what is shown there does not release online.
I really don't want my first experience with footage from Romulus to be reading someone else's second-hand account of it. So hopefully it is timed along with an online release of the trailer as well, if that is when people get their first look at the film.
Mmm yeah that would be disappointing, I hope the hell not.
Quote from: Nightmare Asylum on Feb 28, 2024, 12:42:24 PMMy one concern with CinemaCon is that oftentimes, what is shown there does not release online.
I really don't want my first experience with footage from Romulus to be reading someone else's second-hand account of it. So hopefully it is timed along with an online release of the trailer as well, if that is when people get their first look at the film.
Wasn't this the case with Covenant?
Quote from: Corporal Hicks on Feb 28, 2024, 02:26:57 PMQuote from: Nightmare Asylum on Feb 28, 2024, 12:42:24 PMMy one concern with CinemaCon is that oftentimes, what is shown there does not release online.
I really don't want my first experience with footage from Romulus to be reading someone else's second-hand account of it. So hopefully it is timed along with an online release of the trailer as well, if that is when people get their first look at the film.
Wasn't this the case with Covenant?
Honestly, not entirely sure. My memory of a lot of that is pretty hazy, since I was pretty weird about how I approached a lot of
Covenant's marketing materials before release, I think as a result of the burn from
Prometheus I was feeling at the time (my thoughts on
Prometheus were pretty constantly fluctuating around then, and they were probably at their lowest point a few years removed from release as
Covenant was brewing). I wasn't really on board with
Covenant from the get-go, and had pretty much the entire movie spoiled for me before release and didn't like the way any of it sounded on paper, so I was just kind of casually reading spoilers in general before its release.
Funny, how much I ended up loving it in spite of everything.
Not quite what I was thinking but we got some behind-the-scenes footage at CCXP, then they screened the trailer and some footage at 20th Century Fox Showcase, then we got the actual release of the trailer later that month.
Quote from: Nightmare Asylum on Feb 28, 2024, 02:45:34 PMQuote from: Corporal Hicks on Feb 28, 2024, 02:26:57 PMQuote from: Nightmare Asylum on Feb 28, 2024, 12:42:24 PMMy one concern with CinemaCon is that oftentimes, what is shown there does not release online.
I really don't want my first experience with footage from Romulus to be reading someone else's second-hand account of it. So hopefully it is timed along with an online release of the trailer as well, if that is when people get their first look at the film.
Wasn't this the case with Covenant?
Honestly, not entirely sure. My memory of a lot of that is pretty hazy, since I was pretty weird about how I approached a lot of Covenant's marketing materials before release, I think as a result of the burn from Prometheus I was feeling at the time (my thoughts on Prometheus were pretty constantly fluctuating around then, and they were probably at their lowest point a few years removed from release as Covenant was brewing). I wasn't really on board with Covenant from the get-go, and had pretty much the entire movie spoiled for me before release and didn't like the way any of it sounded on paper, so I was just kind of casually reading spoilers in general before its release.
Funny, how much I ended up loving it in spite of everything.
I remember those days on the Uncanny Valley, feels like a lifetime ago now.
Quote from: Nightmare Asylum on Feb 28, 2024, 02:45:34 PMHonestly, not entirely sure. My memory of a lot of that is pretty hazy, since I was pretty weird about how I approached a lot of Covenant's marketing materials before release, I think as a result of the burn from Prometheus I was feeling at the time (my thoughts on Prometheus were pretty constantly fluctuating around then, and they were probably at their lowest point a few years removed from release as Covenant was brewing). I wasn't really on board with Covenant from the get-go, and had pretty much the entire movie spoiled for me before release and didn't like the way any of it sounded on paper, so I was just kind of casually reading spoilers in general before its release.
Funny, how much I ended up loving it in spite of everything.
Remember that guy who claimed he saw a test screening of Covenant and said David ends up creating the Alien?
That rumour was so wild no-one on here believed it. We just laughed it off... :laugh: :'(
I remember one Sir. Ridley Scott telling us that David created them in his upcoming film "Alien: Paradise Lost."
(https://i.gifer.com/origin/13/13ce764f6a7eb85e048196dadde29acb_w200.gif)
Quote from: Nightmare Asylum on Feb 28, 2024, 06:34:48 PMI remember one Sir. Ridley Scott telling us that David created them in his upcoming film "Alien: Paradise Lost."
I liked this post just so I could unlike it. lol.
Not exactly ROMULUS related, but I think we can expect a similar timeline of marketing that thew new APES film is doing. We're just under 3 months away and things are starting to go into full swing.
https://twitter.com/steveasbell/status/1763327452951331229?s=20
Plus, I know people who are working on both APES and ROMULUS's marketing campaigns and they've only really started going full speed ahead with working on the APES stuff in the last week or so.
I think we can expect trailer on Alien Day.
Ok, David.
lol there are so many fake trailers at YouTube :laugh:
(https://i.ibb.co/tm2GtNj/Screenshot-20240306-113948-You-Tube.jpg)
(https://i.ibb.co/rHtJ4fR/Screenshot-20240306-114259-You-Tube.jpg)
(https://i.ibb.co/K97JkFv/Screenshot-20240306-114252-You-Tube.jpg)
First one: BEWBS
Almost could pass as Covenant. :laugh:
I bloody hate fake trailers. Have people nothing better to do with their time?
Read a book, plant a bulb!
Millions of views and no copyright claims, genius
Might have to start getting our own concept trailers made after all these f**king views... :laugh:
The magic of the internet ;D
i hate being on YouTube enjoying looking through some alien stuff and constantly seeing them in my recommended i get exited for like a second then notice its fake
In France I also noticed a high amount of negative comments towards the younger cast. I fail to understand why it's an important concern for that many people.
Not liking an actor for previous performances I totally understand. But for being "too young" I cannot.
I'm sure it's largely because Disney's in charge now. People are extra ready to jump on this film for being made for kids or being "too woke."
I also feel like I've seen people basically have the sentiment of "Oh, this director did the Evil Dead remake? This is going to be reduced to a dumb teens getting slashed up horror movie!" for some reason.
https://twitter.com/stunninggun/status/1765509383377834372
Turns out woke is dead now, actually. Thanks, Sydeny Sweeney! I guess we never have to hear anyone bitch about movies casting women or people of color or touching on something even vaguely political ever again, so that should make the remainder of the Romulus discourse cycle much more bearable.
Looks like Mr H is out of a job!
Quote from: BigDaddyJohn on Mar 07, 2024, 03:38:07 PMIn France I also noticed a high amount of negative comments towards the younger cast. I fail to understand why it's an important concern for that many people.
Not liking an actor for previous performances I totally understand. But for being "too young" I cannot.
OOOOOOOOOOORRRRRRRRRR maybe because it concerns some people its going to be a basic slasher flick that happens to have aliens. If it is a marketing driven movie versus a story driven movie bleh. For some, it isn't anything to do with woke stuff. At least that is my concern with the young cast. Is this a film taking a serious attempt at recapturing some of the quality standards of the earlier films, or are we getting a meddling film executive mess? Is this another AVP:R?
I'm not heavily invested in the age of the cast, but I've seen enough of those types of films to think it's not unreasonable to think it's a possibility.
I haven't followed Romulus on youtube because it's a waste of time to try to search through all of the fake stuff. Is there a big deal being made about the cast? Are they whining about the race? Or the sex? The series has never not had representation.
Where I'm from it's mostly whining about age. And we already had a slasher with Aliens in 2017. ;D
I can still remember all the bellyaching when the shower scene came to light during the test screenings.
Jason Voorhees himself was jealous.
Shower scene (especially that extended version that made the rounds a year or so ago) is a fun bit of nastiness in what is definitely the meanest Alien movie we've had since Alien 3.
That being said, I fully expect Fede to go meaner and nastier.
Quote from: BigDaddyJohn on Mar 08, 2024, 07:36:08 PMWhere I'm from it's mostly whining about age. And we already had a slasher with Aliens in 2017. ;D
Hell,
Alien is functionally a slasher.
It has numerous slasher elements, but so much more though. Covenant on the other hand...
... also has so much more than just slasher elements.
Quote from: BigDaddyJohn on Mar 08, 2024, 10:51:23 PMIt has numerous slasher elements, but so much more though. Covenant on the other hand...
Covenant is Gothic horror way more than it is a slasher.
Probably. Still, f**k that movie :laugh:
I remember ranking it higher when I saw it in 2017, and it sinked lower and lower as time went by.
Quote from: BigDaddyJohn on Mar 09, 2024, 12:35:02 AMProbably. Still, f**k that movie :laugh:
I remember ranking it higher when I saw it in 2017, and it sinked lower and lower as time went by.
I must say that I really like Covenant. Obviously there's things that I don't like it at all, but overall I really like it most of the time. Not like Prometheus that I had to force myself to like it when it came out back in 2012, I was so hyped that I couldn't accept that the movie really sucks
https://twitter.com/Cryptic4KQual/status/1766277536923648266
Quote from: Darkoo on Mar 09, 2024, 05:17:03 AMhttps://twitter.com/Cryptic4KQual/status/1766277536923648266
https://twitter.com/cryptic4kqual/status/1766211788738040105?s=46
"In time"
Still expecting Alien Day, but would love to be wrong!
Alien day would be cool. But before would be just fine !
The Last Omen and/or CinemaCon still strike me as a bit more viable options to debut a first trailer than Alien Day (though Alien Day is sure to have a bit of a bonus for the fans as well).
Exactly one year ago today in Budapest, Fede Alvarez started cooking us something really tasty.
(https://i.ibb.co/TR2gr7K/Fede-Cooking.png)
And Mike already tasted it :P And hopefully he enjoyed it :P
Quote from: aliens13 on Mar 09, 2024, 04:01:03 AMQuote from: BigDaddyJohn on Mar 09, 2024, 12:35:02 AMProbably. Still, f**k that movie :laugh:
I remember ranking it higher when I saw it in 2017, and it sinked lower and lower as time went by.
I must say that I really like Covenant. Obviously there's things that I don't like it at all, but overall I really like it most of the time. Not like Prometheus that I had to force myself to like it when it came out back in 2012, I was so hyped that I couldn't accept that the movie really sucks
Covenant rocks. It's really settled in as one of the highlights of the franchise's offerings for me at this point.
Two highlights of Covenant for me...
The prologue with Weyland and David is wonderful and one of my favourite scenes in the whole franchise.
The micro second glimpse of the Alien behind the glass in the shower rearing it's teeth back was suddenly the Ridley Scott of 1979 again...
The rest is... alright.
Quote from: TheBATMAN on Mar 09, 2024, 01:09:39 PMTwo highlights of Covenant for me...
The prologue with Weyland and David is wonderful and one of my favourite scenes in the whole franchise.
The micro second glimpse of the Alien behind the glass in the shower rearing it's teeth back was suddenly the Ridley Scott of 1979 again...
The rest is... alright.
You left out the cargo lifter fight.
I found that very meh.
Quote from: Nightmare Asylum on Mar 09, 2024, 12:50:55 PMCovenant rocks. It's really settled in as one of the highlights of the franchise's offerings for me at this point.
Yes
"Saw the trailer through a survey but it has a watermark because its not supposed to be shared. Trust me this movie finna be fire"
Well, one comment on this recent video made by Mr H Reviews has given us a new "My uncle works at Nintendo" kind of vibe, but i hope it's true.
Any thoughts, Mike?
https://x.com/filmnerdjamie/status/1766466186676453816?s=46&t=Pc6F0Q6Zl4Kt0Lo9NIo_Aw
Careful with word of mouth, same feedback came when people teased the Covenant trailer.
Funny. Covenant's trailer kinda sucks. Very good movie, though!
Lifter fight needed something......another edit maybe.....a little better work when she was swinging or something. It was very average.
When I say slasher.....Alien definitely fits that sure.....but not a teen movie atmosphere. That's the fear.
Only thing I'd change with the lifter setpiece would be having the Alien survive and sneak its way onto the Covenant. Cut Lope's baby entirely.
Quote from: TheBATMAN on Mar 09, 2024, 01:09:39 PMTwo highlights of Covenant for me...
The prologue with Weyland and David is wonderful and one of my favourite scenes in the whole franchise.
The micro second glimpse of the Alien behind the glass in the shower rearing it's teeth back was suddenly the Ridley Scott of 1979 again...
The rest is... alright.
The microsecond of the water of the shower falling from the face of the Alien it's awesome too.
I will add the backbuster scene, I really love everything about it
I liked Covenant (in a vacuum, therefore not connecting it to the first movie), but the Lifter scene did nothing to me (besides the shot of the Xeno hitting his head against the glass).
Well, i guess the "Cargo Lift" ost hits pretty hard though.
But the scene had too much CGI, so it just felt fake.
If you're going to show the Xeno in broad daylight, you might as well make sure that it looks perfect in every shot, not just two or three.
That is why i think that the final fight with the Protomorph in the Terraforming Bay was way better, since not only was the CGI impressive in pretty much the entirety of the sequence, but it also had a very claustrophobic vibe with the way Daniels had to trap it inside of the truck.
Also tricking the Xeno into jumping at the right moment, so that it gets impaled by a terraforming vehicle as it falls into Planet 4 was way cooler than angry Xeno actively throwing itself at the the Claw from the Lifter.
Also, the movie having 2 Protomorphs actively made the creature have less impact that it should.
The characters defeat the Xeno once in the Cargo Lifter scene, but it's practically an afterthought, not to mention that Lope's baby and the timing behind the impregnation are way too sudden.
Quote from: Nightmare Asylum on Mar 09, 2024, 02:37:45 PMFunny. Covenant's trailer kinda sucks. Very good movie, though!
I really liked both teaser and full trailer actually. Not at same level of the trailers of Prometheus, but there are pretty good
Quote from: aliens13 on Mar 09, 2024, 03:53:39 PMQuote from: Nightmare Asylum on Mar 09, 2024, 02:37:45 PMFunny. Covenant's trailer kinda sucks. Very good movie, though!
I really liked both teaser and full trailer actually. Not at same level of the trailers of Prometheus, but there are pretty good
I think I was just pretty sour on
Covenant on the whole before release, and that impacted my perception of the marketing. Had most of the movie spoiled for me and I didn't like the sound of any of it at all on paper. Combine that with how messy
Prometheus was and... I was not hyped. :laugh:
I'm so glad the movie itself, against all odds, completely won me over and flip flopped my perception entirely. Made me entirely regret spoiling the whole thing for myself, too (which is why I went on a nearly full media blackout afterwards for
Blade Runner 2049).
Quote from: PortugueseXeno on Mar 09, 2024, 03:51:01 PMWell, i guess the "Cargo Lift" ost hits pretty hard though.
This
Quote from: PortugueseXeno on Mar 09, 2024, 03:51:01 PMAlso, the movie having 2 Protomorphs actively made the creature have less impact that it should.
And this
Quote from: Nightmare Asylum on Mar 09, 2024, 03:34:12 PMOnly thing I'd change with the lifter setpiece would be having the Alien survive and sneak its way onto the Covenant. Cut Lope's baby entirely.
What he said
Quote from: aliens13 on Mar 09, 2024, 03:53:39 PMI really liked both teaser and full trailer actually. Not at same level of the trailers of Prometheus, but there are pretty good
Same. I was very hyped for Covenant although I feel I was sold not what I was promised
Quote from: Mike's Monsters on Mar 09, 2024, 06:25:52 AMStill expecting Alien Day, but would love to be wrong!
You might be right Mike.
https://twitter.com/trailertrack/status/1767005911946559887
Quote from: Darkoo on Mar 11, 2024, 05:26:38 AMQuote from: Mike's Monsters on Mar 09, 2024, 06:25:52 AMStill expecting Alien Day, but would love to be wrong!
You might be right Mike.
https://twitter.com/trailertrack/status/1767005911946559887
If they want to inject life into Alien Day, I can't see any better way of that other than dropping the trailer. Won't be surprised if we get a tease leading up to the release of the trailer too. It could be a good way to build up the hype overall for the day.
Quote from: Mike's Monsters on Mar 11, 2024, 05:54:26 AMQuote from: Darkoo on Mar 11, 2024, 05:26:38 AMQuote from: Mike's Monsters on Mar 09, 2024, 06:25:52 AMStill expecting Alien Day, but would love to be wrong!
You might be right Mike.
https://twitter.com/trailertrack/status/1767005911946559887
If they want to inject life into Alien Day, I can't see any better way of that other than dropping the trailer. Won't be surprised if we get a tease leading up to the release of the trailer too. It could be a good way to build up the hype overall for the day.
Makes sense for it to drop on Alien Day for sure! Although I've just had a look at the release calendar and The First Omen drops on April 5th, which is also a 20th Century studios film. Feels like there is a chance this thing could drop online within the next few weeks.
Daniel Richtman made a Romulus post 7 hours ago but it's locked behind his patreon.
Quote from: PortugueseXeno on Mar 09, 2024, 02:06:21 PM"Saw the trailer through a survey but it has a watermark because its not supposed to be shared. Trust me this movie finna be fire"
This isn't impossible. Way back in the day, when Prometheus was coming out, that is exactly how we first saw and leaked the Prometheus trailer - through a survey website. The more I think about the V Scooper "leaks" the more I think the details are just from scenes from a trailer.
Quote from: TheBATMAN on Mar 11, 2024, 08:49:50 AMDaniel Richtman made a Romulus post 7 hours ago but it's locked behind his patreon.
That's a low blow ;D
Quote from: Corporal Hicks on Mar 11, 2024, 09:13:21 AMThis isn't impossible. Way back in the day, when Prometheus was coming out, that is exactly how we first saw and leaked the Prometheus trailer - through a survey website. The more I think about the V Scooper "leaks" the more I think the details are just from scenes from a trailer.
I do online surveys and I've had TV commercials and one trailer over the last two months.
They usually require recording your face while you watch and you'll lose your money if they find out you've recorded the video.
So yeah, we're unlikely to actually see the trailer from these surveys these days! I do believe he either saw the trailer or someone who did has sent him details.
Quote from: Corporal Hicks on Mar 11, 2024, 09:35:13 AMSo yeah, we're unlikely to actually see the trailer from these surveys these days! I do believe he either saw the trailer or someone who did has sent him details.
I mean considering the pay is like $5 they might be willing :laugh:
Quote from: Corporal Hicks on Mar 11, 2024, 09:13:21 AMQuote from: PortugueseXeno on Mar 09, 2024, 02:06:21 PM"Saw the trailer through a survey but it has a watermark because its not supposed to be shared. Trust me this movie finna be fire"
This isn't impossible. Way back in the day, when Prometheus was coming out, that is exactly how we first saw and leaked the Prometheus trailer - through a survey website.
(https://i.imgur.com/DQ3L33T.png)
The quality has not improved on these surveys ten years later.
Praise from someone who uses the phrase "finna be fire" dampens my excitement a little...
(Also, I tried to find that comment and HOLY HELL. Wading through all the bullshit in that comment section reminded me why I unsubscribed from Mr. H a long time ago.)
Well, after all of Mike's hints and the leaks/rumors from V-Scooper on twitter, i think i know where this movie is headed.
So, apparently there was some confusion as to whether the characters will board an abandoned spaceship or a space station, so here is what i think is the secret of the premise.
The characters will board an abandoned spaceship that is currently undergoing Special Order 937.
That is right, i think that this movie will shows us what the next phase of that order was and what Ash was suposed to do (go to).
The abandoned spaceship will probably be on an automatic route towards the Romulus space station, which will kick off the actual second act of the movie.
So what do i think the Romulus space station is, well, i think it's a sort of black site (like some other guy posted here), where Weyland makes secretive research and experiments with alien lifeforms, etc...
The supposed Xenos in cryo-statis (that were hinted by V-Scooper) are probably the organisms that were sent there by command of Special Order 937, through the work of Company androids.
Which means, that the Nostromo crew was simply one of many crews that ended up making contact with Xenos through the Company's influence, with the exception being that Ripley managed to defeat/override it, so Classic Ripley W!!!
The poor young thieves/scavangers of the new movie will try to steal some equipment from Weyland in order to get some money and resources but will end up unleashing their secret cargo, Xeno, so all hell breaks loose.
So yeah, i don't think this movie will have any Big Chap return, sorry
@Nightmare Asylum , but it will expand upon The Company, their nefarious business and show us what would happen if Ash were to succeed in killing Ripley (and the others) and finish Special Order 937.
I think this movie is going to show us what would happen if Ripley failed and died.
Mike said that this movie has a very unique premise and that a lot of people (behind the scenes) think that this movie will be very special and that it united a lot of hardcore fans (from both VFX and practical effects) in order to make this a memorable movie event, so what could be more special (and inoffensive) than to bring back a very interesting plot point from the first movie and expand upon it, without actually retconning anything.
Sort of like what Noah Hawley did with Fargo's first season with the money bag...those that watched Fargo know what i meant.
Mike also said that there will be some sort of connection to the prequels, so they could easily throw some easter eggs such as Neomoprh corpses or the black goo being experimented upon within the Romulus space station, without actually using them as prominent plot points, therefore making this movie a back to basics in regards to ALIEN and ALIENS, without throwing away the prequels completely (for better or worse).
So this could also be an explanation as to why Romulu's facehuggers have some sort of hooks/barb-wired traps on its fingers, and what i mean by that is that they either were experimented on or they were simply from another Hive besides the eggs from the LV-426's Derelict and therefore adapted or evolved in a different way.
Not to mention that Prometheus and Covenant can also be mentioned as Weyland vessels that have made contact with alien lifeforms.
I have nothing to back this up but i am extremely confident about this prediction lmao
Quote from: PortugueseXeno on Mar 11, 2024, 02:48:59 PMWell, after all of Mike's hints and the leaks/rumors from V-Scooper on twitter, i think i know where this movie is headed.
So, apparently there was some confusion as to whether the characters will board an abandoned spaceship or a space station, so here is what i think is the secret of the premise.
The characters will board an abandoned spaceship that is currently undergoing Special Order 937.
That is right, i think that this movie will shows us what the next phase of that order was and what Ash was suposed to do (go to).
The abandoned spaceship will probably be on an automatic route towards the Romulus space station, which will kick off the actual second act of the movie.
So what do i think the Romulus space station is, well, i think it's a sort of black site (like some other guy posted here), where Weyland makes secretive research and experiments with alien lifeforms, etc...
The supposed Xenos in cryo-statis (that were hinted by V-Scooper) are probably the organisms that were sent there by command of Special Order 937, through the work of Company androids.
Which means, that the Nostromo crew was simply one of many crews that ended up making contact with Xenos through the Company's influence, with the exception being that Ripley managed to defeat/override it, so Classic Ripley W!!!
The poor young thieves/scavangers of the new movie will try to steal some equipment from Weyland in order to get some money and resources but will end up unleashing their secret cargo, Xeno, so all hell breaks loose.
So yeah, i don't think this movie will have any Big Chap return, sorry @Nightmare Asylum , but it will expand upon The Company, their nefarious business and show us what would happen if Ash were to succeed in killing Ripley (and the others) and finish Special Order 937.
I think this movie is going to show us what would happen if Ripley failed and died.
Mike said that this movie has a very unique premise and that a lot of people (behind the scenes) think that this movie will be very special that united a lot of hardcore fands (from both VFX and practical effects) in order to make this a memorable movie event, so what could be more special (and inoffensive) than to bring a very interesting plot point from the first movie and expand upon it, without actually retconning anything.
Sort of like what Noah Hawley did with Fargo's first season with the money bag...those what watched Fargo know what i meant.
Mike also said that there will be some sort of connection to the prequels, so they could easily throw some easter eggs such as Neomoprh corpses or the black goo being experimented upon within the Romulus space station, without actually using them as prominent plot points, therefore making this movie a back to basics in regards to ALIEN and ALIENS, without throwing away the prequels completely (for better or worse).
So this could also be an explanation as to why Romulu's facehuggers as some sort of hooks/barb-wired traps on its fingers, and what i mean by that is that they either were experimented on or they were simply from another Hive besides the eggs from the LV-426's Derelict and therefore adapted or evolved in a different way.
Not to mention that Prometheus and Covenant can also be mentioned as Weyland vessels that have made contact with alien lifeforms.
I have nothing to back this up but i am extremely confident about this prediction lmao
If this is the case, I'm very happy with it!
Quote from: aliens13 on Mar 11, 2024, 02:57:34 PMQuote from: PortugueseXeno on Mar 11, 2024, 02:48:59 PMWell, after all of Mike's hints and the leaks/rumors from V-Scooper on twitter, i think i know where this movie is headed.
So, apparently there was some confusion as to whether the characters will board an abandoned spaceship or a space station, so here is what i think is the secret of the premise.
The characters will board an abandoned spaceship that is currently undergoing Special Order 937.
That is right, i think that this movie will shows us what the next phase of that order was and what Ash was suposed to do (go to).
The abandoned spaceship will probably be on an automatic route towards the Romulus space station, which will kick off the actual second act of the movie.
So what do i think the Romulus space station is, well, i think it's a sort of black site (like some other guy posted here), where Weyland makes secretive research and experiments with alien lifeforms, etc...
The supposed Xenos in cryo-statis (that were hinted by V-Scooper) are probably the organisms that were sent there by command of Special Order 937, through the work of Company androids.
Which means, that the Nostromo crew was simply one of many crews that ended up making contact with Xenos through the Company's influence, with the exception being that Ripley managed to defeat/override it, so Classic Ripley W!!!
The poor young thieves/scavangers of the new movie will try to steal some equipment from Weyland in order to get some money and resources but will end up unleashing their secret cargo, Xeno, so all hell breaks loose.
So yeah, i don't think this movie will have any Big Chap return, sorry @Nightmare Asylum , but it will expand upon The Company, their nefarious business and show us what would happen if Ash were to succeed in killing Ripley (and the others) and finish Special Order 937.
I think this movie is going to show us what would happen if Ripley failed and died.
Mike said that this movie has a very unique premise and that a lot of people (behind the scenes) think that this movie will be very special that united a lot of hardcore fands (from both VFX and practical effects) in order to make this a memorable movie event, so what could be more special (and inoffensive) than to bring a very interesting plot point from the first movie and expand upon it, without actually retconning anything.
Sort of like what Noah Hawley did with Fargo's first season with the money bag...those what watched Fargo know what i meant.
Mike also said that there will be some sort of connection to the prequels, so they could easily throw some easter eggs such as Neomoprh corpses or the black goo being experimented upon within the Romulus space station, without actually using them as prominent plot points, therefore making this movie a back to basics in regards to ALIEN and ALIENS, without throwing away the prequels completely (for better or worse).
So this could also be an explanation as to why Romulu's facehuggers as some sort of hooks/barb-wired traps on its fingers, and what i mean by that is that they either were experimented on or they were simply from another Hive besides the eggs from the LV-426's Derelict and therefore adapted or evolved in a different way.
Not to mention that Prometheus and Covenant can also be mentioned as Weyland vessels that have made contact with alien lifeforms.
I have nothing to back this up but i am extremely confident about this prediction lmao
If this is the case, I'm very happy with it!
Like i said, i could very well be talking out of my ass here, but from what little clues and hints we have gotten, i think it points to something similar to this.
Like what I read. I'm just wondering why they consulted more with James Cameron.
Verbally referencing the existence of the Prometheus or/and the Covenant is probably the safest and most likely way the prequels would be acknowledged in this movie.
I'd be fine with the Romulus station being a Weyland black site of some sorts.
Quote from: Darkoo on Mar 11, 2024, 03:10:50 PMLike what I read. I'm just wondering why they consulted more with James Cameron.
Well, he is a legend when it comes to pioneering, not to mention that in his movie, the Aliens had more ambitious scenes and effetcs than the Big Chap in the first movie, so maybe that could be it.
There were some rumors that the Xeno from Romulus would be inspired by both the Big Chap and Stompy, so given how quick and mobile Stompy was in some instants, i could see a similar challenge being given to the Xeno in Romulus.
Quote from: TheBATMAN on Mar 11, 2024, 08:49:50 AMDaniel Richtman made a Romulus post 7 hours ago but it's locked behind his patreon.
DanielRPK's scope:
https://twitter.com/HollywoodHandle/status/1767256172590162088
Quote from: Darkoo on Mar 11, 2024, 06:46:18 PMQuote from: TheBATMAN on Mar 11, 2024, 08:49:50 AMDaniel Richtman made a Romulus post 7 hours ago but it's locked behind his patreon.
DanielRPK's scope:
https://twitter.com/HollywoodHandle/status/1767256172590162088
My guess for a game plan there would be to drop the first trailer so that it is ready to attach to
The First Omen in early April (so a late March online release would track there), and then show some con-exclusive stuff that doesn't make its way online a week or so later at CinemaCon. Then, on Alien Day, drop some extra tidbits for the fans online (Maybe some of it might be mined from the CinemaCon stuff, maybe not. But probably some sort of BTS sizzle reel or what have you for Alien Day).
Quote from: Darkoo on Mar 11, 2024, 06:46:18 PMQuote from: TheBATMAN on Mar 11, 2024, 08:49:50 AMDaniel Richtman made a Romulus post 7 hours ago but it's locked behind his patreon.
DanielRPK's scope:
https://twitter.com/HollywoodHandle/status/1767256172590162088
Don't do that, don't give me hope.
I can't do this anymore.
Quote from: Darkoo on Mar 11, 2024, 06:46:18 PMQuote from: TheBATMAN on Mar 11, 2024, 08:49:50 AMDaniel Richtman made a Romulus post 7 hours ago but it's locked behind his patreon.
DanielRPK's scope:
https://twitter.com/HollywoodHandle/status/1767256172590162088
Please, please, please be true 🙏 i can't wait anymore for the trailer
It sucks to wait cause of excitement, but I'd much rather them save the trailer for Alien Day tbh.
I'd rather have it before Alien Day, because I don't want a bunch of leaks from CinemaCon to be my first real exposure to the material.
I'm very comfortable in having it before Alien Day. ;D
I'm happy for trailer before AD so long as there's something nice on AD as well.
Quote from: SiL on Mar 11, 2024, 10:00:49 PMI'm happy for trailer before AD so long as there's something nice on AD as well.
My hope/guess would be, trailer early April (with
The First Omen), then con-exclusive footage at CinemaCon a week or so later, and then some sort of BTS sizzle reel or something online for the fans on Alien Day.
Quote from: SiL on Mar 11, 2024, 10:00:49 PMI'm happy for trailer before AD so long as there's something nice on AD as well.
That's the thing. I agree with that, but with how sparse Alien Day has been, if the trailer drops before then, then what will we even get? No trying to sound pessimistic, but it'd most likely be nothing.
I just don't have much expectations for AD anymore so I'd rather have something to make it feel actually big and special and give it some legitimacy.
But that's just me. I get wanting to see something as soon as possible too.
Trailer first then perhaps a short video message from Fede on Alien day.
To be fair, Alien Day has been pretty sparse these last few years because there hasn't been anything to promote. It was a pretty big deal in 2017 with Covenant coming soon.
Quote from: Nightmare Asylum on Mar 11, 2024, 10:03:09 PMQuote from: SiL on Mar 11, 2024, 10:00:49 PMI'm happy for trailer before AD so long as there's something nice on AD as well.
My hope/guess would be, trailer early April (with The First Omen), then con-exclusive footage at CinemaCon a week or so later, and then some sort of BTS sizzle reel or something online for the fans on Alien Day.
If the start an Viral Campaign like it was with Prometheus and Covenant we could get pur first trailer this month and some viral video on AD. But to be honest, I don't think that it's going to be the case for Romulus
Quote from: Nightmare Asylum on Mar 11, 2024, 10:12:25 PMTo be fair, Alien Day has been pretty sparse these last few years because there hasn't been anything to promote. It was a pretty big deal in 2017 with Covenant coming soon.
No
films to promote, I agree.
But yeah I loved all the stuff they did for Covenant. Which is why I'd love to see them do that again, for Romulus. It would make sense to lump the premiere of the trailer in with all that.
But again, I just have low expectations. Would love to be pleasantly surprised tho.
Was just inputting a digital code into my MoviesAnywhere account when I noticed that
Alien: Romulus has a page on there, with the following synopsis listed:
QuoteIn this ninth entry in the immensely popular and enduring film series, a group of young people on a distant world find themselves in a confrontation with the most terrifying life form in the universe.
https://moviesanywhere.com/movie/alien-romulus-2024
Not sure if we've seen that synopsis with that specific wording previously anywhere, but interesting that it directly mentions a planet rather than a space station.
EDIT: Searched around, looks like that synopsis has indeed been used (and posted here) before. Nothing new, then.
Posted this in the thread for the new info that sheds light on how Romulus connects to the prequels, but I think I'm bowing out of leaks/spoilers at this point. We're getting so close to the film's release now and I want to try to stay in the dark as much as I possibly can come August.
I'll be watching the trailers and looking at anything officially released, but I think the details regarding the new features of the Facehugger is going to be the last bit of info I take in from sources outside of the official marketing campaign.
Will probably be frequenting the more general threads like this in the coming months rather than the ones honed in on super specific information.
There are more and more details released just now, specifically about "new" creatures. That I absolutely don't want to know about.
Quote from: Nightmare Asylum on Mar 13, 2024, 01:12:50 PMPosted this in the thread for the new info that sheds light on how Romulus connects to the prequels, but I think I'm bowing out of leaks/spoilers at this point. We're getting so close to the film's release now and I want to try to stay in the dark as much as I possibly can come August.
I wish I had this option sometimes. :laugh:
Welp, way too many rounds of spoilers hitting in rapid fire succession for me today.
Already caught glimpses of some of the leaks from multiple sources without completely realizing what I was looking at at first and saw way more than I'd have liked to have known regarding this movie before going in, especially considering that I haven't even seen a frame of footage for myself yet.
I think I'm gonna tap out of the forums until a trailer and/or some official info drops, and then take it from there. I hope there's still some surprises in store come August, 'cause as it is I feel like I have already learned a lot more about this movie than I would have liked to today.
See ya in a bit, folks!
no....I don't read anything....I don't watch any trailers.....
no no no......
Quote from: Nightmare Asylum on Mar 13, 2024, 04:16:01 PMWelp, way too many rounds of spoilers hitting in rapid fire succession for me today.
Already caught glimpses of some of the leaks from multiple sources without completely realizing what I was looking at at first and saw way more than I'd have liked to have known regarding this movie before going in, especially considering that I haven't even seen a frame of footage for myself yet.
I think I'm gonna tap out of the forums until a trailer and/or some official info drops, and then take it from there. I hope there's still some surprises in store come August, 'cause as it is I feel like I have already learned a lot more about this movie than I would have liked to today.
See ya in a bit, folks!
I know...its hard to resist the spoilers...but you clicked anyways ;)
Quote from: solace97 on Mar 14, 2024, 04:56:01 AMQuote from: Nightmare Asylum on Mar 13, 2024, 04:16:01 PMWelp, way too many rounds of spoilers hitting in rapid fire succession for me today.
Already caught glimpses of some of the leaks from multiple sources without completely realizing what I was looking at at first and saw way more than I'd have liked to have known regarding this movie before going in, especially considering that I haven't even seen a frame of footage for myself yet.
I think I'm gonna tap out of the forums until a trailer and/or some official info drops, and then take it from there. I hope there's still some surprises in store come August, 'cause as it is I feel like I have already learned a lot more about this movie than I would have liked to today.
See ya in a bit, folks!
I know...its hard to resist the spoilers...but you clicked anyways ;)
I've managed to resist the urge to click so far and do like the stance the PO crew have taken on not reporting the details of the spoilers. Although I do get Corp and team have a duty as a news site. It's tough.
Quote from: solace97 on Mar 14, 2024, 04:56:01 AMQuote from: Nightmare Asylum on Mar 13, 2024, 04:16:01 PMWelp, way too many rounds of spoilers hitting in rapid fire succession for me today.
Already caught glimpses of some of the leaks from multiple sources without completely realizing what I was looking at at first and saw way more than I'd have liked to have known regarding this movie before going in, especially considering that I haven't even seen a frame of footage for myself yet.
I think I'm gonna tap out of the forums until a trailer and/or some official info drops, and then take it from there. I hope there's still some surprises in store come August, 'cause as it is I feel like I have already learned a lot more about this movie than I would have liked to today.
See ya in a bit, folks!
I know...its hard to resist the spoilers...but you clicked anyways ;)
Not true at all, actually. I didn't click anything to spoil myself. I haven't read any of the articles/watched any of the major spoilery videos (told myself yesterday morning after watching Mike's video about the Facehugger details that I was going to make that my cutoff), but that sure didn't stop someone I know (not a user here) from DMing me what I assume must be the vast majority of the spoilers thinking I'd be interested in reading them, and I caught some pretty significant key words in that message before I realized what I was even looking at... A recommended tweet from some random scoop site that I don't even follow that plastered a bit more info with a correlating image landed on my Twitter feed soon afterwards, and that helped fill in some of the blanks, too.
I guess now that I know what I'm assuming is pretty much all of the major reveals in store for
Romulus, there isn't much point in me taking a hiatus until the trailer. Still going to avoid the spoiler specific threads, in case there's something I might have thankfully/hopefully missed but... at this rate I'm not sure if I've actually missed anything.
Pretty bummed 'cause after having all of
Covenant spoiled before release, I was hopeful that I'd be able to go into this one pretty much in the dark (we didn't have the director spilling all the beans himself time around!) but that all flipped on its head when seemingly the entire movie's worth of details made it out there in the span of a morning yesterday. Thanks, Mr. H!
Very glad that I quite like what I'm hearing, at least, but man it would have been nice to be able to play along with the ride from now to August and get to take it in over time through the marketing and actual release of the film.
Oof, yeah I feel your pain Nightmare.
I haven't been spoiled yet thankfully, so I'll definitely be treading lightly in here and online in general until at least the trailer.
Any idea where Mr H got the details from?
Quote from: Nightmare Asylum on Mar 14, 2024, 03:25:04 PMQuote from: solace97 on Mar 14, 2024, 04:56:01 AMQuote from: Nightmare Asylum on Mar 13, 2024, 04:16:01 PMWelp, way too many rounds of spoilers hitting in rapid fire succession for me today.
Already caught glimpses of some of the leaks from multiple sources without completely realizing what I was looking at at first and saw way more than I'd have liked to have known regarding this movie before going in, especially considering that I haven't even seen a frame of footage for myself yet.
I think I'm gonna tap out of the forums until a trailer and/or some official info drops, and then take it from there. I hope there's still some surprises in store come August, 'cause as it is I feel like I have already learned a lot more about this movie than I would have liked to today.
See ya in a bit, folks!
I know...its hard to resist the spoilers...but you clicked anyways ;)
Not true at all, actually. I didn't click anything to spoil myself. I haven't read any of the articles/watched any of the major spoilery videos (told myself yesterday morning after watching Mike's video about the Facehugger details that I was going to make that my cutoff), but that sure didn't stop someone I know (not a user here) from DMing me what I assume must be the vast majority of the spoilers thinking I'd be interested in reading them, and I caught some pretty significant key words in that message before I realized what I was even looking at... A recommended tweet from some random scoop site that I don't even follow that plastered a bit more info with a correlating image landed on my Twitter feed soon afterwards, and that helped fill in some of the blanks, too.
I guess now that I know what I'm assuming is pretty much all of the major reveals in store for Romulus, there isn't much point in me taking a hiatus until the trailer. Still going to avoid the spoiler specific threads, in case there's something I might have thankfully/hopefully missed but... at this rate I'm not sure if I've actually missed anything.
Pretty bummed 'cause after having all of Covenant spoiled before release, I was hopeful that I'd be able to go into this one pretty much in the dark (we didn't have the director spilling all the beans himself time around!) but that all flipped on its head when seemingly the entire movie's worth of details made it out there in the span of a morning yesterday. Thanks, Mr. H!
Very glad that I quite like what I'm hearing, at least, but man it would have been nice to be able to play along with the ride from now to August and get to take it in over time through the marketing and actual release of the film.
Oh no.. did someone tell you that the Xenos talk now?!
/s
Quote from: MudButt on Mar 14, 2024, 06:44:34 PMOh no.. did someone tell you that the Xenos talk now?!
/s
Jeri confirmed.
Quote from: DaveT937 on Mar 14, 2024, 06:39:38 PMAny idea where Mr H got the details from?
Someone who went to a test screening in Sacramento, CA. That's where the only test screening has happened from what it sounds like. Hence why it didn't know about it being down in Los Angeles.
That's why I'm not a fan of test screenings. Having them spoilers are inevitable.
I'm not sure what benefit it brings to the leakers, the folks who send stuff to people like Mr H. He will make a profit off their leaks, and all they can say is that they gave him the leak. I don't understand the point.
Quote from: Mike's Monsters on Mar 14, 2024, 07:28:34 PMI'm not sure what benefit it brings to the leakers, the folks who send stuff to people like Mr H. He will make a profit off their leaks, and all they can say is that they gave him the leak. I don't understand the point.
H might have made a deal with the audience member.
Quote from: Ingwar on Mar 14, 2024, 07:26:31 PMThat's why I'm not a fan of test screenings.
Neither is the Sir.
H promised them immortality in exchange for leaks.
That is a very good deal.
Quote from: Mike's Monsters on Mar 14, 2024, 07:11:53 PMQuote from: DaveT937 on Mar 14, 2024, 06:39:38 PMAny idea where Mr H got the details from?
Someone who went to a test screening in Sacramento, CA. That's where the only test screening has happened from what it sounds like. Hence why it didn't know about it being down in Los Angeles.
Odd that the screening has happened AFTER the pickups, no?
Surely they'd want the feedback, then act on it, or do I misunderstand the amount / kind of feedback they take from test screenings?
Thanks for the context Mike.
Not entirely. Pickups could have come from notes Ridley or producers gave. There's a chance they have alternate takes or footage that could be swapped based off of audience reaction. There's always time to go back for some very last minute reshoots if they find they got a bad response from the tests. August is still a liiiiittle ways away.
I wonder if they can still change the Rook thing. Considering of course there would be a huge backlash resulting from the leaks about that.
They could easily swap with a real vocal performance. Will they do that?
That's the question.
You have to imagine that once it's revealed AI was used the general public will push back on it especially after the recent strikes.
It wasn't 100% accurate to the voice we know either, hence why I'm thinking it was an impersonator. It could easily be an AI voice program too though. But I do know it was a puppet, and I believe was intended to keep it all practical. I believe a lot of the practical effects are going to have CGI enhancements or replacements in some areas.
So this is good news right ? Regarding the ethical question I mean.
I think that is up to each individual to decide themselves.
I've got a real hard time believing Disney/20th Century would use AI in a movie so soon after the strikes..
I am going to hold any judgement until I see the finished product though.
Quote from: Mike's Monsters on Mar 14, 2024, 08:19:16 PMI think that is up to each individual to decide themselves.
Do you know if Fede is pissed about the leaks?
No idea, as I'm not connected with him. But I know if I was in his shoes and found out, I'd be more than a little bummed that the surprises are out of the bag.
Quote from: Mike's Monsters on Mar 14, 2024, 08:08:14 PMIt wasn't 100% accurate to the voice we know either, hence why I'm thinking it was an impersonator. It could easily be an AI voice program too though. But I do know it was a puppet, and I believe was intended to keep it all practical. I believe a lot of the practical effects are going to have CGI enhancements or replacements in some areas.
Hmm, this changes my mind somewhat, though I can't give you a logical reason why. If it's a puppet, it somehow feels less bad than if it was a CGI/AI stand-in, if only because of the original Ash puppet.
If it's only trying to be the android, and not the human, then that feels a bit better, especially if the voice isn't 100% accurate either.
I personally don't mind at all (I'd prefer practical effects, but cgi enhancements in this case would be welcomed to make it more 'alive'). I'm actually surprised at the backlash to this one to be honest, when I first read the leak I was really excited. Each to their own I guess. 🤷🏻
I wonder what the runtime for this movie will be.
Fede's horror movies have mostly been 1h30 min, but i think that is too little for me to when it comes to new alien content.
I would be cool with it being 2h10 min or 2h20 min like Cameron's Aliens.
Go big or go home.
Also, even though i don't mind being spoiled or seeing the spoilers, i have to admit that i would prefer to have known about those spoilers after the trailer was released.
I wanted to see the visuals, aesthetic and characters of the movie first, before knowing about what the premise is, so now it feels like a book adaptation (but without an actual book), where i'm already picturing these actors in whatever look, hairstyle and clothes they have, while forcing my own cinematography into this.
Which is curious because V-Scooper's leaks (made by AI imagery) had a red-orange filter, so i wonder if that was a tease as to what this movie's color pallete will be like.
And no, that set pic from last year's Alien Day doesn't count as a tease.
Also, i still think that the Special Order 937 theory was better (i'm biased), but i can't wait to see what Fede has brought to this franchise, not to mention that i loved his Evil Dead and Don't Breathe.
The average Alien movie is a little under two hours, around 1:50ish.
Quote from: SiL on Mar 14, 2024, 11:59:11 PMThe average Alien movie is a little under two hours, around 1:50ish.
True, but i wanted an Alien 3 Assembly Cut or James Cameron's Aliens runtime for this one.
Quote from: Mike's Monsters on Mar 14, 2024, 08:30:22 PMNo idea, as I'm not connected with him. But I know if I was in his shoes and found out, I'd be more than a little bummed that the surprises are out of the bag.
Yeah I don't mind spoiling it for myself but it would have been nice to go in completely blind on this one. But god damn spoilers to any alien or predator movie is like setting a nice ice cold beer down in front of an alcoholic after a long work day
Quote from: PortugueseXeno on Mar 15, 2024, 12:00:58 AMQuote from: SiL on Mar 14, 2024, 11:59:11 PMThe average Alien movie is a little under two hours, around 1:50ish.
True, but i wanted an Alien 3 Assembly Cut or James Cameron's Aliens runtime for this one.
That's not gonna happen. At least not at first. This franchise is on thin ice. There was a decade between successful films (Only if you include predator, otherwise we're looking at 12 years), and Prey didn't even get a theatrical release. For 20th/Disney this movie is far from a guaranteed hit so I very much doubt they will let this go over 2 hours in length.
Fede likes to get the tension started quickly and keep it there as long as he can, which isn't sustainable over such a long time frame.
Gonna be hard to keep the intensity up over 2 hours unless you build it up like Nolan likes to do (Oppenheimer for example did it for me). Can't see how you can do that with an Alien film. Alien & Aliens both had a slow start (about 60 mins each if I'm correct before things really got heated).
I'd be surprised if this movie is longer than 100-105 minutes.
Quote from: MudButt on Mar 15, 2024, 05:59:55 AMI'd be surprised if this movie is longer than 100-105 minutes.
Don't Breathe & Evil Dead were around the 90-minute mark. Think you're probably right.
I was thinking 1h40 - 1h50 maybe.
If last Saw movie can be around 2hr mark, so can Romulus
But it was so unnecessary though.
Yeah that movie didn't need to be that long.
I had been skeptical about X announced runtime (personally think hour and a half is perfect for a Saw movie) but felt that movie was paced quite well
It wasn't too bad, but could've been a good ten minutes shorter.
Fair enough
Mike, since those V-Scooper "leak" images had an orange-red filter, can you say if that was just a tease from them in regards to how the movie would look visually.
The images are clearly AI generated, but maybe the color was added on purpose in order to tease the overall aesthetic of the movie.
Fyi, you don't have to feel obligated to respond, but i am just shooting my chance since you answered some questions regarding the Xeno's animatronic/puppet, so the more tecnhical aspects of the film.
https://twitter.com/Cryptic4KQual/status/1768803807356465341
Quote from: Nightmare Asylum on Mar 16, 2024, 04:13:43 PMhttps://twitter.com/Cryptic4KQual/status/1768803807356465341
Yeah, i saw this tweet today.
But i didn't post it, because it felt like more of the same.
They just keep teasing.
Quote from: PortugueseXeno on Mar 16, 2024, 10:47:25 AMMike, since those V-Scooper "leak" images had an orange-red filter, can you say if that was just a tease from them in regards to how the movie would look visually.
The images are clearly AI generated, but maybe the color was added on purpose in order to tease the overall aesthetic of the movie.
Fyi, you don't have to feel obligated to respond, but i am just shooting my chance since you answered some questions regarding the Xeno's animatronic/puppet, so the more tecnhical aspects of the film.
I'd say it's close, but not exact. It's probably Scified plugging in prompts based off of what they were sent. Not sure if the colors and stuff will be accurate in the final cut, but it did look kind of close.
Quote from: Mike's Monsters on Mar 16, 2024, 04:56:49 PMQuote from: PortugueseXeno on Mar 16, 2024, 10:47:25 AMMike, since those V-Scooper "leak" images had an orange-red filter, can you say if that was just a tease from them in regards to how the movie would look visually.
The images are clearly AI generated, but maybe the color was added on purpose in order to tease the overall aesthetic of the movie.
Fyi, you don't have to feel obligated to respond, but i am just shooting my chance since you answered some questions regarding the Xeno's animatronic/puppet, so the more tecnhical aspects of the film.
I'd say it's close, but not exact. It's probably Scified plugging in prompts based off of what they were sent. Not sure if the colors and stuff will be accurate in the final cut, but it did look kind of close.
Ooof, thanks.
Very interesting then.
I never expected this movie to have some sort of redish/orange color, especially because it was going to be set in space.
The only movie in the franchise that had that color pallete was Alien 3.
But to be fair, Alien 3 also had an industrial colony/prison, so maybe that is the visual parallel.
I'm interested to see if the second and third act keep the same colors and if they cange it, depending on the new locations.
But still, it will be nice to have some visual/color difference when it comes to the more blueish-gray prequels.
I would not have imagined that either but eh, surprise me.
https://twitter.com/thevscooper/status/1769136562808201364
Also, someone needs to learn how to spell "provoke".
Quote from: Slutty Badger on Mar 17, 2024, 10:15:55 AMAlso, someone needs to learn how to spell "provoke".
Maybe it's not their first language.
Quote from: PortugueseXeno on Mar 17, 2024, 10:18:30 AMMaybe it's not their first language.
I dunno, they seem pretty proficient most of the time.
Also, BAD GUYS 2!
*SCREAM*
https://twitter.com/thevscooper/status/1711818882200338941
They spelled it in french, nothing wrong with that ! Such cool fellas !
Quote from: BigDaddyJohn on Mar 17, 2024, 10:34:34 AMThey spelled it in french, nothing wrong with that ! Such cool fellas !
Apparently "provoque" means "causes" in French, so "will causes chills for sure" doesn't really flow.
Provoque means provoke in french.
Quote from: BigDaddyJohn on Mar 17, 2024, 10:41:17 AMProvoque means provoke in french.
Actually, "provoquer" means "provoke" in French.
Quote from: BigDaddyJohn on Mar 17, 2024, 10:41:17 AMProvoque means provoke in french.
I'm reminded of a Tweet
"You speak English because it's the only language you know; I speak English because it's the only language you know."
Also, weird how V Scooper's tweets about Kung Fu Panda 4 and Fantastic Four have more likes than Alien Romulus. Are we that much of a niche market?
Quote from: Slutty Badger on Mar 17, 2024, 10:58:00 AMAlso, weird how V Scooper's tweets about Kung Fu Panda 4 and Fantastic Four have more likes than Alien Romulus. Are we that much of a niche market?
Alien and Predator franchises have never exactly been big sellers.
Unless you are of a certain age most people have yet to see a really impressive Alien film in 'real time' so to speak.
Quote from: TheBATMAN on Mar 17, 2024, 12:04:17 PMUnless you are of a certain age most people have yet to see a really impressive Alien film in 'real time' so to speak.
Prometheus and
Covenant called, and they're pissed!
Prometheus and Covenant have good things, but they aint no Aliens!
A:R was also pretty Orange
The franchises have never been blockbusters, but they have generally done alright.
Quote from: TheBATMAN on Mar 17, 2024, 12:19:52 PMPrometheus and Covenant have good things, but they aint no Aliens!
Covenant is the thinking person's
Aliens!
(https://y.yarn.co/bd858a28-3ac9-4752-b02a-25b009998cf4_screenshot.jpg)
"We're in the pipe, five-by-five."
No, wait...
Aliens rocks. Covenant rocks.
Prometheus... has cool ideas!
Quote from: PAS Spinelli on Mar 17, 2024, 12:25:34 PMA:R was also pretty Orange
I think Resurrection was yellow.
I think the first Alien was black.
Aliens was blue.
Alien 3 was red/orange, and Romulus will probably be it too, which is insteresting, because Romulus till take place in the middle of space, so the red/orange color is quite different from what we are usually used to in space settings.
Prometheus was blue, but still different than Aliens, while Covenant was gray.
There, now we have colors for the franchise.
But it's funny, in my mind, everytime i tried to picture what Romulus would look like, the color that poped up in my head was green.
Quote from: PortugueseXeno on Mar 17, 2024, 12:59:35 PMQuote from: PAS Spinelli on Mar 17, 2024, 12:25:34 PMA:R was also pretty Orange
I think Resurrection was yellow.
I think the first Alien was black.
Aliens was blue.
Alien 3 was red/orange, and Romulus will probably be it too, which is insteresting, because Romulus till take place in the middle of space, so the red/orange color is quite different from what we are usually used to in space settings.
Prometheus was blue, but still different than Aliens, while Covenant was gray.
There, now we have colors for the franchise.
But it's funny, in my mind, everytime i tried to picture what Romulus would look like, the color that poped up in my head was green.
I always thought of
Alien as green,
Alien 3 as yellow, and
Resurrection as orange. Even the
Empire reviews follow that pattern.
Aliens,
Prometheus, and
Covenant are all blue.
Quote from: Slutty Badger on Mar 17, 2024, 01:02:54 PMQuote from: PortugueseXeno on Mar 17, 2024, 12:59:35 PMQuote from: PAS Spinelli on Mar 17, 2024, 12:25:34 PMA:R was also pretty Orange
I think Resurrection was yellow.
I think the first Alien was black.
Aliens was blue.
Alien 3 was red/orange, and Romulus will probably be it too, which is insteresting, because Romulus till take place in the middle of space, so the red/orange color is quite different from what we are usually used to in space settings.
Prometheus was blue, but still different than Aliens, while Covenant was gray.
There, now we have colors for the franchise.
But it's funny, in my mind, everytime i tried to picture what Romulus would look like, the color that poped up in my head was green.
I always thought of Alien as green, Alien 3 as yellow, and Resurrection as orange. Even the Empire reviews follow that pattern.
Aliens, Prometheus, and Covenant are all blue.
It's kind of fascinating, how people will visualize these movies when in terms of color and then display different results.
I think Alien (1979) had a lot of green in its marketing and logo, but the actual movie itself lacked that green, so i always pictured it as black.
Alien3 is always green to me because the branding was always green.
Probably numerous scenes with strobing lights in the Romulus station looking orange-reddish.
Quote from: BigDaddyJohn on Mar 17, 2024, 01:28:53 PMProbably numerous scenes with strobing lights in the Romulus station looking orange-reddish.
Nah, I reckon it's gonna be purple.
Quote from: PortugueseXeno on Mar 17, 2024, 10:07:00 AMhttps://twitter.com/thevscooper/status/1769136562808201364
They certainly haven't shared them all. But between Mr H and all the other info that came out, I really can't think of anything that's not been spoiled yet. So if you read them all, don't expect anything completely different unless they did reshoots to change things drastically, instead of little pick ups here and there.
Studio has been made aware of the leaks as well. Not sure if we'll see any action taken, but marketing may take a shift. Leaks like this really throw shit off behind the scenes for marketing departments. Saw it happen in real time a few instances when I was on the marketing team at Bandai.
Quote from: Mike's Monsters on Mar 17, 2024, 04:37:41 PMQuote from: PortugueseXeno on Mar 17, 2024, 10:07:00 AMhttps://twitter.com/thevscooper/status/1769136562808201364
They certainly haven't shared them all. But between Mr H and all the other info that came out, I really can't think of anything that's not been spoiled yet. So if you read them all, don't expect anything completely different unless they did reshoots to change things drastically, instead of little pick ups here and there.
Studio has been made aware of the leaks as well. Not sure if we'll see any action taken, but marketing may take a shift. Leaks like this really throw shit off behind the scenes for marketing departments. Saw it happen in real time a few instances when I was on the marketing team at Bandai.
As someone that knows a lot more than I had hoped to know prior to release (I'm not sure if I know
everything that's floating around out there, but I definitely know a lot of it), I am curious to see what gets revealed in the trailers. There's at least one element from all of the leaks that I'd imagine would probably make good trailer fodder - but I also have no idea what the marketing campaign is/was going to look like or how it was going to allude to what's now out there.
Quote from: SiL on Mar 17, 2024, 01:27:25 PMAlien3 is always green to me because the branding was always green.
That's Resurrection for me
I managed to not spoil myself
Spoiler
what the new creature is, what it looks like, how it comes to existence (if they even revealed that ?) etc
and I'm glad I did.
I'm surprised they even test movies of this nature. Given how long lived the Alien franchise is what is it they possibly need to know?
Why take the risk?
Quote from: TheBATMAN on Mar 17, 2024, 05:43:33 PMI'm surprised they even test movies of this nature. Given how long lived the Alien franchise is what is it they possibly need to know?
Why take the risk?
Ridiculous really.
I've managed to stay clear of the leaks, just about hanging in this thread.
I'm worried they'll show more now in the trailers based on what's now out there. Maybe I'll avoid them too, but it's hard; part of the fun is being in and around the fandom and joining in in the build up - that was certainly the best bits of Prometheus and Covenant for me - the films themselves were most certainly not.
Quote from: Mike's Monsters on Mar 17, 2024, 04:37:41 PMStudio has been made aware of the leaks as well. Not sure if we'll see any action taken, but marketing may take a shift. Leaks like this really throw shit off behind the scenes for marketing departments. Saw it happen in real time a few instances when I was on the marketing team at Bandai.
I really wonder what those conversations in the studio must have been like with these leaks.
Maybe a few months down the line, Fede alvarez directly calls out the leaks and Mr. H specifically and then we will see him try to justify himself for how much he cares and is trying to help a franchise, instead of simply admiting that he wanted the first scoop out of concern for his channel, that would atleast be a little more understandable, even though it's still scummy.
Mr H's rationale for why leaks will help this movie is one of the most utterly ridiculous things I have heard in a long long time.
Quote from: TheBATMAN on Mar 17, 2024, 06:49:21 PMMr H's rationale for why leaks will help this movie is one of the most utterly ridiculous things I have heard in a long long time.
Apparently the Monsterverse also needed help in regards to leaking the story and major plot points, because that franchise was clearly in the need of an audience boost...
And i say this with sarcasm as someone that only liked Godzilla (2014) and Monarch TV Series and hated King of the Monsters and Godzilla V Kong, because i understand that even though i don't like the more recent goofy movies, i understand that it has found its place and audience in order to be a sustainabble franchise.
I would atleast respect the honesty if he admitted doing it for the quick first scoop, but that justification was just laughable.
Also, the argument that people only get spoiled if they watch the video is just as equally ridiculous, because once those spoiler videos are out, then you can't stop or control where those spoilers will show up next, since the Pandora's box has already been opened.
At the end of the day, i don't mind spoilers (on my own terms), because i value the execution a lot, but i understand that others do mind those spoilers, so seeing Mr H say that shit was ridiculous.
https://twitter.com/thevscooper/status/1769438556546797694
I'm willing to bet that this piece of dialogue is the beginning of the trailer.
It's coming, guys and gals.
You know, I've been speculating that the trailer might initially attach to The First Omen due to the Disney/20th Century Studios connection there, but trailers don't necessarily always debut with movies from the same studio.
If the "before March is over" rumors hold true, Godzilla x Kong: The New Empire would certainly be a big one to get a lot of eyes on it...
Quote from: PortugueseXeno on Mar 17, 2024, 06:55:59 PMQuote from: TheBATMAN on Mar 17, 2024, 06:49:21 PMMr H's rationale for why leaks will help this movie is one of the most utterly ridiculous things I have heard in a long long time.
Apparently the Monsterverse also needed help in regards to leaking the story and major plot points, because that franchise was clearly in the need of an audience boost...
And i say this with sarcasm as someone that only liked Godzilla (2014) and Monarch TV Series and hated King of the Monsters and Godzilla V Kong, because i understand that even though i don't like the more recent goofy movies, i understand that it has found its place and audience in order to be a sustainabble franchise.
I would atleast respect the honesty if he admitted doing it for the quick first scoop, but that justification was just laughable.
Also, the argument that people only get spoiled if they watch the video is just as equally ridiculous, because once those spoiler videos are out, then you can't stop or control where those spoilers will show up next, since the Pandora's box has already been opened.
At the end of the day, i don't mind spoilers (on my own terms), because i value the execution a lot, but i understand that others do mind those spoilers, so seeing Mr H say that shit was ridiculous.
https://twitter.com/thevscooper/status/1769438556546797694
I'm willing to bet that this piece of dialogue is the beginning of the trailer.
It's coming, guys and gals.
It's coming,I hope this week because the anxiety it's killing me 😨
Quote from: aliens13 on Mar 17, 2024, 08:37:50 PMQuote from: PortugueseXeno on Mar 17, 2024, 06:55:59 PMQuote from: TheBATMAN on Mar 17, 2024, 06:49:21 PMMr H's rationale for why leaks will help this movie is one of the most utterly ridiculous things I have heard in a long long time.
Apparently the Monsterverse also needed help in regards to leaking the story and major plot points, because that franchise was clearly in the need of an audience boost...
And i say this with sarcasm as someone that only liked Godzilla (2014) and Monarch TV Series and hated King of the Monsters and Godzilla V Kong, because i understand that even though i don't like the more recent goofy movies, i understand that it has found its place and audience in order to be a sustainabble franchise.
I would atleast respect the honesty if he admitted doing it for the quick first scoop, but that justification was just laughable.
Also, the argument that people only get spoiled if they watch the video is just as equally ridiculous, because once those spoiler videos are out, then you can't stop or control where those spoilers will show up next, since the Pandora's box has already been opened.
At the end of the day, i don't mind spoilers (on my own terms), because i value the execution a lot, but i understand that others do mind those spoilers, so seeing Mr H say that shit was ridiculous.
https://twitter.com/thevscooper/status/1769438556546797694
I'm willing to bet that this piece of dialogue is the beginning of the trailer.
It's coming, guys and gals.
It's coming,I hope this week because the anxiety it's killing me 😨
Yeah, i have a feeling it will be this week.
Which would be crazy because we are already going to have the trailers for House of the Dragon, The Penguin and Dune: prophecy.
A huge ship... Wait, what ?
Quote from: BigDaddyJohn on Mar 17, 2024, 09:20:20 PMA huge ship... Wait, what ?
Is it a ship, or a station?
Uhh, this is the
Resurrection novelization all over again.
Quote from: Slutty Badger on Mar 17, 2024, 09:23:48 PMQuote from: BigDaddyJohn on Mar 17, 2024, 09:20:20 PMA huge ship... Wait, what ?
Is it a ship, or a station?
Uhh, this is the Resurrection novelization all over again.
Apparently, it's both.
Ohh. Weird. And apparently it's huge huh.
Quote from: PortugueseXeno on Mar 17, 2024, 08:46:20 PMQuote from: aliens13 on Mar 17, 2024, 08:37:50 PMQuote from: PortugueseXeno on Mar 17, 2024, 06:55:59 PMQuote from: TheBATMAN on Mar 17, 2024, 06:49:21 PMMr H's rationale for why leaks will help this movie is one of the most utterly ridiculous things I have heard in a long long time.
Apparently the Monsterverse also needed help in regards to leaking the story and major plot points, because that franchise was clearly in the need of an audience boost...
And i say this with sarcasm as someone that only liked Godzilla (2014) and Monarch TV Series and hated King of the Monsters and Godzilla V Kong, because i understand that even though i don't like the more recent goofy movies, i understand that it has found its place and audience in order to be a sustainabble franchise.
I would atleast respect the honesty if he admitted doing it for the quick first scoop, but that justification was just laughable.
Also, the argument that people only get spoiled if they watch the video is just as equally ridiculous, because once those spoiler videos are out, then you can't stop or control where those spoilers will show up next, since the Pandora's box has already been opened.
At the end of the day, i don't mind spoilers (on my own terms), because i value the execution a lot, but i understand that others do mind those spoilers, so seeing Mr H say that shit was ridiculous.
https://twitter.com/thevscooper/status/1769438556546797694
I'm willing to bet that this piece of dialogue is the beginning of the trailer.
It's coming, guys and gals.
It's coming,I hope this week because the anxiety it's killing me 😨
Yeah, i have a feeling it will be this week.
Which would be crazy because we are already going to have the trailers for House of the Dragon, The Penguin and Dune: prophecy.
I'm already listening the soundtrack of both Alien and Covenant while playing Alien Trilogy 😂 my excitement it's growing up with any news or twitter that comes out. Even this week my Neca Ultimate Big Chap arrives, it's all set for the trailer to come this week
Quote from: aliens13 on Mar 17, 2024, 09:59:36 PMI'm already listening the soundtrack of both Alien and Covenant while playing Alien Trilogy
B A S E D
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Quote from: aliens13 on Mar 17, 2024, 09:59:36 PMmy excitement it's growing up with any news or twitter that comes out
Brother, i really hope the trailer comes this week, not even for my sake anymore, but for yours :laugh:
Quote from: PortugueseXeno on Mar 17, 2024, 10:04:59 PMQuote from: aliens13 on Mar 17, 2024, 09:59:36 PMmy excitement it's growing up with any news or twitter that comes out
Brother, i really hope the trailer comes this week, not even for my sake anymore, but for yours :laugh:
Literally, when I comes to my house from my work the first thing that I do it's look the news to see if there is something new about the movie 😂 I wasn't this excited for a movie in a long time
Quote from: aliens13 on Mar 17, 2024, 10:08:41 PMQuote from: PortugueseXeno on Mar 17, 2024, 10:04:59 PMQuote from: aliens13 on Mar 17, 2024, 09:59:36 PMmy excitement it's growing up with any news or twitter that comes out
Brother, i really hope the trailer comes this week, not even for my sake anymore, but for yours :laugh:
Literally, when I comes to my house from my work the first thing that I do it's look the news to see if there is something new about the movie 😂 I wasn't this excited for a movie in a long time
I'm excited too.
Dune Part 2 was incredible, so all i need is for Alien: Romulus to be the same in order for me to have my fill of movies this year.
https://twitter.com/thevscooper/status/1769468755925766247
Quote from: PortugueseXeno on Mar 17, 2024, 10:11:49 PMQuote from: aliens13 on Mar 17, 2024, 10:08:41 PMQuote from: PortugueseXeno on Mar 17, 2024, 10:04:59 PMQuote from: aliens13 on Mar 17, 2024, 09:59:36 PMmy excitement it's growing up with any news or twitter that comes out
Brother, i really hope the trailer comes this week, not even for my sake anymore, but for yours :laugh:
Literally, when I comes to my house from my work the first thing that I do it's look the news to see if there is something new about the movie 😂 I wasn't this excited for a movie in a long time
I'm excited too.
Dune Part 2 was incredible, so all i need is for Alien: Romulus to be the same in order for me to have my fill of movies this year.
https://twitter.com/thevscooper/status/1769468755925766247
This V-Scooper isn't doing any good to my mental sanity 😂
Quote from: aliens13 on Mar 17, 2024, 10:25:54 PMQuote from: PortugueseXeno on Mar 17, 2024, 10:11:49 PMQuote from: aliens13 on Mar 17, 2024, 10:08:41 PMQuote from: PortugueseXeno on Mar 17, 2024, 10:04:59 PMQuote from: aliens13 on Mar 17, 2024, 09:59:36 PMmy excitement it's growing up with any news or twitter that comes out
Brother, i really hope the trailer comes this week, not even for my sake anymore, but for yours :laugh:
Literally, when I comes to my house from my work the first thing that I do it's look the news to see if there is something new about the movie 😂 I wasn't this excited for a movie in a long time
I'm excited too.
Dune Part 2 was incredible, so all i need is for Alien: Romulus to be the same in order for me to have my fill of movies this year.
https://twitter.com/thevscooper/status/1769468755925766247
This V-Scooper isn't doing any good to my mental sanity 😂
I dream about V-Scooper at night.
He/she is the first person i think of when i wake up, and the last before i go to sleep.
Quote from: PortugueseXeno on Mar 17, 2024, 10:31:54 PMQuote from: aliens13 on Mar 17, 2024, 10:25:54 PMQuote from: PortugueseXeno on Mar 17, 2024, 10:11:49 PMQuote from: aliens13 on Mar 17, 2024, 10:08:41 PMQuote from: PortugueseXeno on Mar 17, 2024, 10:04:59 PMQuote from: aliens13 on Mar 17, 2024, 09:59:36 PMmy excitement it's growing up with any news or twitter that comes out
Brother, i really hope the trailer comes this week, not even for my sake anymore, but for yours :laugh:
Literally, when I comes to my house from my work the first thing that I do it's look the news to see if there is something new about the movie 😂 I wasn't this excited for a movie in a long time
I'm excited too.
Dune Part 2 was incredible, so all i need is for Alien: Romulus to be the same in order for me to have my fill of movies this year.
https://twitter.com/thevscooper/status/1769468755925766247
This V-Scooper isn't doing any good to my mental sanity 😂
I dream about V-Scooper at night.
He/she is the first person i think of when i wake up, and the last before i go to sleep.
David: When you close your eyes... Do you dream of me?
😂
It was the first thing that come into my mind when I read your post
https://twitter.com/thevscooper/status/1769496617512501272
https://x.com/BSAAEurope/status/1769643299348910131?s=20
I doubt it's actually from Romulus, rather he's saying the artist's unrelated work.
Yes I just have put 'possible' really. But I aint paying Elon to edit it!
Vs Cooper is already hiccupping because of us
Quote from: Corporal Hicks on Mar 18, 2024, 08:53:33 AMI doubt it's actually from Romulus, rather he's saying the artist's unrelated work.
Yep, I took a look at Col's page where that was originally posted and it is indeed original work.
Quote from: Nightmare Asylum on Mar 18, 2024, 10:31:16 AMQuote from: Corporal Hicks on Mar 18, 2024, 08:53:33 AMI doubt it's actually from Romulus, rather he's saying the artist's unrelated work.
Yep, I took a look at Col's page where that was originally posted and it is indeed original work.
Fan art or official?
Quote from: MistressTeqila on Mar 18, 2024, 10:36:47 AMQuote from: Nightmare Asylum on Mar 18, 2024, 10:31:16 AMQuote from: Corporal Hicks on Mar 18, 2024, 08:53:33 AMI doubt it's actually from Romulus, rather he's saying the artist's unrelated work.
Yep, I took a look at Col's page where that was originally posted and it is indeed original work.
Fan art or official?
Neither. It has nothing to do with this movie in an official or unofficial capacity. Col Price is an artist in the industry who did indeed work on
Alien: Romulus, but this is a personal piece of his that has nothing to do with the film.
Quote from: TheBATMAN on Mar 17, 2024, 05:43:33 PMI'm surprised they even test movies of this nature. Given how long lived the Alien franchise is what is it they possibly need to know?
Why take the risk?
Cause the franchsie hasn't had a box office win since 2012. Back to back flops would make any studio nervous. If Romulus follows the same path as those films, this franchise will be on ice for a looooong time.
They were also encouraged by Prey's success to be confident enough for a theatrical release. If it fails that would hit them really hard.
Even with all that we've received, I am still extremely curious about how all this will be executed. If Romulus features a similar tone to Alien, Aliens, and Isolation, then we very well may have our "Prey". If it follows the campy adventure tone of AVP, then we're f**ked. Given Fede's previous films, I think this will be more intense and adult-oriented fare. Then again, Anderson did Event Horizon and AVP was nothing like it.
Quote from: lv_226 on Mar 18, 2024, 02:18:44 PMThen again, Anderson did Event Horizon and AVP was nothing like it.
If this film is a fifth as good as
Event Horizon, then we are in for a treat.
Hot take event horizon was not a good film.
Quote from: solace97 on Mar 18, 2024, 09:06:11 PMHot take event horizon was not a good film.
For me it's a good film but could have been executed much better
It's Anderson's best movie BY FAR.
I used to think Pandorum was one of these, but that one wasn't directed by Anderson. :laugh:
Quote from: BigDaddyJohn on Mar 18, 2024, 10:09:42 PMIt's Anderson's best movie BY FAR.
This is true.
Quote from: solace97 on Mar 18, 2024, 09:06:11 PMHot take event horizon was not a good film.
This is also true.
Event Horizon has a lot of great qualities, but I agree that its not a good film. For me it's a guilty pleasure. I've been entertained everytime I watch it even if it doesn't quite work.
https://twitter.com/trailertrack/status/1769830169630343532
It seemed too early anyways.
The optimist in me says trailer with Godzilla x Kong: The New Empire. The realist in me says trailer with The First Omen.
Every part of me says we will have a trailer before CinemaCon.
Quote from: Nightmare Asylum on Mar 18, 2024, 11:14:11 PMThe optimist in me says trailer with Godzilla x Kong: The New Empire. The realist in me says trailer with The First Omen.
Every part of me says we will have a trailer before CinemaCon.
At this point the actual movie will release sooner than the trailer.
Quote from: PortugueseXeno on Mar 18, 2024, 10:36:01 PMhttps://twitter.com/trailertrack/status/1769830169630343532
That's disappointing
Quote from: 426Buddy on Mar 18, 2024, 10:22:28 PMEvent Horizon has a lot of great qualities, but I agree that its not a good film. For me it's a guilty pleasure. I've been entertained everytime I watch it even if it doesn't quite work.
Paul W. Anderson doesn't make good movies, but Event Horizon it's by far his best one (which it's not saying much seeing his other movies)
Watch them wait til Alien Day.
Quote from: PortugueseXeno on Mar 18, 2024, 10:36:01 PMhttps://twitter.com/trailertrack/status/1769830169630343532
They're releasing a big Star Wars trailer tomorrow, so makes sense they'll probably hold off until next week at the earliest.
Quote from: Mike's Monsters on Mar 18, 2024, 11:57:49 PMWatch them wait til Alien Day.
Cryptic is pretty spot on with trailer leaks, so if this releasing to play before Omen, I don't think they can wait that long. I think it would be pretty hype for the community if it did release then tho.
My guess for 4/26 is either a BTS promo, or a sneak peak scene to go alongside Alien screenings like they did for Covenant. Or, hopefully, both!
"Alien: Romulus will have a red-orange-yellow color pallet unlike the blue-green color pallet of Alien and Aliens - more so like Alien 3 and Alien: Resurrection, I'm told."
https://www.alien-covenant.com/topic/51960
https://twitter.com/trailertrack/status/1770086912268591573
Woohoo!
When is The First Omen trailer supposed to be released ?
The First Omen trailer? It got released 2 months ago :) Movie will be released 5 April.
Ahh it's the movie sorry lol.
Quote from: Corporal Hicks on Mar 19, 2024, 02:02:37 PMhttps://twitter.com/trailertrack/status/1770086912268591573
Lesssgooooo
If it does drop by the time The Omen is out, maybe we'll have something else to look forward to for Alien day, as they're not gonna miss the chance to capitalise on that day.
Quote from: PortugueseXeno on Mar 19, 2024, 09:36:02 AM"Alien: Romulus will have a red-orange-yellow color pallet unlike the blue-green color pallet of Alien and Aliens - more so like Alien 3 and Alien: Resurrection, I'm told."
https://www.alien-covenant.com/topic/51960
It's honestly a little bit of everything from the franchise not just one pallette. The tones look like each movie in a way. The whole movie is a love letter to the whole franchise, prequels and all. Could have changed from the rough cut as it was far from final color correction.
I can't f**king wait.
Quote from: Corporal Hicks on Mar 19, 2024, 02:02:37 PMhttps://twitter.com/trailertrack/status/1770086912268591573
(https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcR7BBez9XgAwI8ixj4TEIsngHlD4bkKP4dZWZdlhENG2Q&s)
I love the smell of trailer in the morning
Quote from: aliens13 on Mar 18, 2024, 11:31:34 PMQuote from: PortugueseXeno on Mar 18, 2024, 10:36:01 PMhttps://twitter.com/trailertrack/status/1769830169630343532
That's disappointing
Quote from: 426Buddy on Mar 18, 2024, 10:22:28 PMEvent Horizon has a lot of great qualities, but I agree that its not a good film. For me it's a guilty pleasure. I've been entertained everytime I watch it even if it doesn't quite work.
Paul W. Anderson doesn't make good movies, but Event Horizon it's by far his best one (which it's not saying much seeing his other movies)
well if you enjoy it than its a good movie, there are alot of "good" art films that are unwatchable .
https://x.com/fedalvar/status/1770216405352460646?s=20 (https://x.com/fedalvar/status/1770216405352460646?s=20)
WE DID IT LADS WE MADE IT TO SALVATION
Damn, i wish i knew what time it would release, just so that i could post my thoughts right after the trailer is released, but now i will probably get caught by surprise and only see the trailer a few hours later.
But hell, who am i kidding, tomorrow i am going to be refreshing twitter and instagram every 5 minutes, so tomorrow should probably be my least productive day of the year.
Hopefully it's footage and not a poster or anything!
Quote from: Mike's Monsters on Mar 19, 2024, 11:41:16 PMHopefully it's footage and not a poster or anything!
Bruh imagine
Quote from: PortugueseXeno on Mar 19, 2024, 10:58:50 PMDamn, i wish i knew what time it would release, just so that i could post my thoughts right after the trailer is released, but now i will probably get caught by surprise and only see the trailer a few hours later.
But hell, who am i kidding, tomorrow i am going to be refreshing twitter and instagram every 5 minutes, so tomorrow should probably be my least productive day of the year.
I would have to take my phone to the work 😂 checking here every minute
A classic Xenomorph is in the image
https://twitter.com/Nukiemorph/status/1770240832756449529
(https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1009899623621595136/1219799946820190268/image.png?ex=660c9e3a&is=65fa293a&hm=c6c712007431c2942b54f6e517c6ce9df6975b013f2964a0f5f5eac23f14f16a&=&format=webp&quality=lossless&width=671&height=671)
I don't think this is from the first movie
Quote from: PAS Spinelli on Mar 20, 2024, 12:10:12 AMhttps://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1009899623621595136/1219799946820190268/image.png?ex=660c9e3a&is=65fa293a&hm=c6c712007431c2942b54f6e517c6ce9df6975b013f2964a0f5f5eac23f14f16a&=&format=webp&quality=lossless&width=671&height=671
How i've missed you, Xeno.
https://twitter.com/DrunkenReactor/status/1770242840133509396
Could be fake, but could be true.
TOMORROW
Quote from: PortugueseXeno on Mar 20, 2024, 12:10:44 AMQuote from: PAS Spinelli on Mar 20, 2024, 12:10:12 AMhttps://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1009899623621595136/1219799946820190268/image.png?ex=660c9e3a&is=65fa293a&hm=c6c712007431c2942b54f6e517c6ce9df6975b013f2964a0f5f5eac23f14f16a&=&format=webp&quality=lossless&width=671&height=671
How i've missed you, Xeno.
https://twitter.com/DrunkenReactor/status/1770242840133509396
Could be fake, but could be true.
Just PLEASE don't do the Alien opening AGAIN. It's so old at this point and it's never as good as the first one. The trilogy all had such cool and UNIQUE intros I really hope Romulus does as well.
Quote from: PAS Spinelli on Mar 20, 2024, 12:10:12 AMhttps://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1009899623621595136/1219799946820190268/image.png?ex=660c9e3a&is=65fa293a&hm=c6c712007431c2942b54f6e517c6ce9df6975b013f2964a0f5f5eac23f14f16a&=&format=webp&quality=lossless&width=671&height=671
I don't think this is from the first movie
Our BOY IS BACK AND HE AINT DEAD. This is gonna make a Chapillion dollars for sure. GET CHAPED SUCKAS
Maybe we can finally get a new image to replace that AvP image as the default Alien stock photo.
Quote from: Nukiemorph on Mar 20, 2024, 12:09:48 AMhttps://twitter.com/Nukiemorph/status/1770240832756449529
f**k had to try this myself just to be sure, so damn cool. Cannot wait.
Quote from: SiL on Mar 20, 2024, 12:39:50 AMMaybe we can finally get a new image to replace that AvP image as the default Alien stock photo.
Stickbug is trying real hard.
Quote from: Scott Conover on Mar 19, 2024, 11:54:31 PMQuote from: Mike's Monsters on Mar 19, 2024, 11:41:16 PMHopefully it's footage and not a poster or anything!
Bruh imagine
I'd actually laugh so hard at this point.
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How i've missed you, Xeno.
https://twitter.com/DrunkenReactor/status/1770242840133509396
Could be fake, but could be true.
https://twitter.com/DrunkenReactor/status/1770242840133509396
Could be fake, but could be true.
That is accurate to the opening. But it didn't say ALIEN ROMULUS in my cut, but something else. Not sure if they plan on committing to what I saw. Mine could have easily been a placeholder title that I'll share at a later date.
The teaser image is indeed the new Xeno design too.
Hello Everyone.....I'm new.... Hope a teaser or poster tomorrow for Alien: Romulus
Quote from: Mike's Monsters on Mar 20, 2024, 01:19:14 AMQuote from: Scott Conover on Mar 19, 2024, 11:54:31 PMQuote from: Mike's Monsters on Mar 19, 2024, 11:41:16 PMHopefully it's footage and not a poster or anything!
Bruh imagine
I'd actually laugh so hard at this point.
QuoteQuote from: PortugueseXeno on Mar 20, 2024, 12:10:44 AMQuote from: PAS Spinelli on Mar 20, 2024, 12:10:12 AMhttps://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1009899623621595136/1219799946820190268/image.png?ex=660c9e3a&is=65fa293a&hm=c6c712007431c2942b54f6e517c6ce9df6975b013f2964a0f5f5eac23f14f16a&=&format=webp&quality=lossless&width=[quote author=PortugueseXeno link=msg=2634846 date=1710893444]
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How i've missed you, Xeno.
https://twitter.com/DrunkenReactor/status/1770242840133509396
Could be fake, but could be true.
https://twitter.com/DrunkenReactor/status/1770242840133509396
Could be fake, but could be true.
That is accurate to the opening. But it didn't say ALIEN ROMULUS in my cut, but something else. Not sure if they plan on committing to what I saw. Mine could have easily been a placeholder title that I'll share at a later date.
The teaser image is indeed the new Xeno design too.
Oh so not Big Chap? Or just the "new" Big Chap?
Yes, the new one.
Then I'm less bothered by the lack of intricate tendons on the mouth.
https://twitter.com/JurassicBap/status/1770354328869462379
Quick question :
Spoiler
the xeno picture in Alavarez's post is a random new xeno from the movie, or the new "mutant" creature teased in the leaks that I managed myself to not get spoiled ?
Quote from: BigDaddyJohn on Mar 20, 2024, 08:40:26 AMQuick question : Spoiler
the xeno picture in Alavarez's post is a random new xeno from the movie, or the new "mutant" creature teased in the leaks that I managed myself to not get spoiled ?
Spoiler
Based on the descriptions given, it's not the mutant.
From what I can see in Fede's photo, the design reminds me a lot of "Resurrection"
Ok thanks.
Quote from: SiL on Mar 20, 2024, 12:39:50 AMMaybe we can finally get a new image to replace that AvP image as the default Alien stock photo.
We got another one a few years back!
(https://static1.srcdn.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2023/08/the-xenomorph-on-a-spaceship-in-alien-covenant.jpg)
Definitely excited for some official marketing! ;D
No official trailer rating on BBFC though btw.
Do they list when a trailer hasn't been given classification yet? They can be released unclassified.
Nothing on there for Romulus at all.
Yes, but would there be if the trailer was being released without classification? I'm not sure how the BBFC treats it.
I'm not certain, but I believe it only really matters for when trailers are put on the front of films in the cinema over here.
I could be wrong but aren't trailers submitted to BBFC for theatrical usage only? I was under the impression it's not required for youtube/ social media etc. If the trailer debuting online with a theatrical attachment to come, the rating will likely follow the online release.
Edit: Yeah, what Hicks said.
That's what I thought, just checking
Quote from: BigDaddyJohn on Mar 20, 2024, 08:40:26 AMQuick question : Spoiler
the xeno picture in Alavarez's post is a random new xeno from the movie, or the new "mutant" creature teased in the leaks that I managed myself to not get spoiled ?
I just hope they keep that plot point a secret from the marketing.
Covenant spoiled everything and anything, so the last thing i need is to have Romulus release the entire movie through trailers, teasers, TV Spots and clips as well.
And yes, if they release those, i will watch every single one, because i lack restraint when it comes to these things.
I agree 100%. And I'm probably gonna watch it all too lol.
Also, it's confirmed
Spoiler
there are multiple adults xenos then. I would've loved just one, but eh.
Quote from: BigDaddyJohn on Mar 20, 2024, 10:18:01 AMI agree 100%. And I'm probably gonna watch it all too lol.
Also, it's confirmed Spoiler
there are multiple adults xenos then. I would've love just one, but eh.
I think they are going to pull an Isolation, where the marketing only aludes to one, but then throughout the movie, we (audience) and the characters will learn that there are more.
Quote from: PortugueseXeno on Mar 20, 2024, 10:22:55 AMQuote from: BigDaddyJohn on Mar 20, 2024, 10:18:01 AMI agree 100%. And I'm probably gonna watch it all too lol.
Also, it's confirmed Spoiler
there are multiple adults xenos then. I would've love just one, but eh.
I think they are going to pull an Isolation, where the marketing only aludes to one, but then thoughout the movie, we (audience) and the characters will learn that there are more.
Yeah possible. I'm not sure I like that either.
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Release date on his profile! Alongside full confirmation of the title
That was the big reveal!
ALIEN: r o m u l u s
Maybe only the word "Romulus" is gonna form together the way the word "Alien" traditionally does, with the "Alien" itself in this case coming together in a different way?
France release date confirmed : august 14.
8) 8) 8)
Also french wikipedia states the movie take place in 2180. That doesn't fit with "between Alien and Aliens" timeline. IIRC Alien take place in 2122, so 2180 would be one year after Aliens.
We already knew that!
Quote from: BigDaddyJohn on Mar 20, 2024, 01:50:45 PMAlso french wikipedia states the movie take place in 2180. That doesn't fit with "between Alien and Aliens" timeline. IIRC Alien take place in 2122, so 2180 would be one year after Aliens.
That has to be an error, then. Sure, what we know
can technically happen after
Aliens, but everything that everyone's said has put it in the slot between movies.
I agree, pretty sure the person writing the wikipedia description didn't give a f**k.
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https://twitter.com/20thcentury/status/1770480462487847198
wow, love the cinematography of the movie.
This looks good.
Quote from: BigDaddyJohn on Mar 20, 2024, 04:05:06 PMThis looks good.
Yeah, and thank god the trailer didn't show a lot, besides Aileen Wu getting facehugged.
But either way, the VFX of the ship looked really good.
That was a great teaser!
Also, Benjamin Wallfisch confirmed as the composer.
Please continue trailer and poster discussion here: https://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/index.php?topic=67184.0
uhhhh
Weyland Cameo?
https://x.com/lancehenriksen/status/1770485763785797823?s=20
Quote from: PAS Spinelli on Mar 20, 2024, 04:23:49 PMuhhhh
Weyland Cameo?
https://x.com/lancehenriksen/status/1770485763785797823?s=20
Nah, Lance just shares everything.
This looks amazing! Tension, terror & gore... Bring on August. Anyone else think the main trailer will launch on Alien day?
It would be great.
https://twitter.com/CoveredGeekly/status/1770752009206907379
Apparently a bts still from Romulus. I've not got access to Disney's press vault so I'm not sure.
Quote from: BigDaddyJohn on Mar 20, 2024, 04:05:06 PMThis looks good.
Yep. I'm going in with minimal knowledge of the story and will be expecting a solid entry in the series just based on this teaser.
https://twitter.com/nickstath_art/status/1770535905213943961
Quote from: Corporal Hicks on Mar 21, 2024, 10:03:42 AMhttps://twitter.com/CoveredGeekly/status/1770752009206907379
Apparently a bts still from Romulus. I've not got access to Disney's press vault so I'm not sure.
Well, Fede is wearing a Nostromo cap...
And is that a Nostromo emergency light he is holding?
Quote from: 𝔗𝔥𝔢 𝔈𝔦𝔤𝔥𝔱𝔥 𝔓𝔞𝔰𝔰𝔢𝔫𝔤𝔢𝔯 on Mar 21, 2024, 02:13:29 PMWell, Fede is wearing a Nostromo cap...
So is Pedro Pascal, every day now since he met Ridley on
Gladiator 2. :laugh:
https://twitter.com/avpgalaxy/status/1770811780052197582
Quote from: Corporal Hicks on Mar 21, 2024, 02:58:44 PMhttps://twitter.com/avpgalaxy/status/1770811780052197582
Getting a bit of a RBW Father vibe from the top right still. Albeit an evil version of Father.
Also interesting, just looking at the different corridors, we have that Prometheus style one in the Father still, and then the Nostromo B deck one below, elsewhere we saw a Nostromo A-deck corridor, a Hadley's Hope inspired one and a atmosphere processing plant one.
The guy has seamlessly merged the different aesthetics from the original films and prequels into one film.
Quote from: 𝔗𝔥𝔢 𝔈𝔦𝔤𝔥𝔱𝔥 𝔓𝔞𝔰𝔰𝔢𝔫𝔤𝔢𝔯 on Mar 21, 2024, 03:11:38 PMAlbeit an evil version of Father.
This has me thinking... I don't think/expect that Andy is going to be evil at all, but then there was Fede's comment in the video interview yesterday where, while talking about how the film has a lot of sibling relationships (be they biological siblings or otherwise), he doubled down on the idea that Romulus killed Remus, and we know from the audition tapes that came out a while ago that
Spoiler
Rain sees Andy as a brother.
Quote from: 𝔗𝔥𝔢 𝔈𝔦𝔤𝔥𝔱𝔥 𝔓𝔞𝔰𝔰𝔢𝔫𝔤𝔢𝔯 on Mar 21, 2024, 03:11:38 PMThe guy has seamlessly merged the different aesthetics from the original films and prequels into one film.
That's something that struck me in the trailer, and it excites me to no end.
Yeah I think Andy will be the hero type that somewhat sacrifices himself for Rain. I think I'm going to like him.
Quote from: BigDaddyJohn on Mar 21, 2024, 03:42:24 PMYeah I think Andy will be the hero type that somewhat sacrifices himself for Rain. I think I'm going to like him.
Would be cool if they made Andy the protagonist and keep him alive. Him sacrificing himself seems quite obvious. In fact, I think it would be cool if we kept a good chunk of the cast alive. I think you still have a very tense and impactful movie without killing off the whole cast but one via the slasher formula. I think Jaws is a good example of this. Let's mix it up a little.
Quote from: BigDaddyJohn on Mar 21, 2024, 03:42:24 PMYeah I think Andy will be the hero type that somewhat sacrifices himself for Rain. I think I'm going to like him.
I agree, he will be like Bishop, a moral synth. Because we already had David for two films.
Fede says it slots into the timeline, so we need most -- if not everyone -- to die to keep the giant freaking spaceship full of Aliens from becoming common knowledge 37 years later.
Quote from: SiL on Mar 22, 2024, 03:09:42 AMFede says it slots into the timeline, so we need most -- if not everyone -- to die to keep the giant freaking spaceship full of Aliens from becoming common knowledge 37 years later.
Ten million space bucks says the station blows up, but either the lead or one of the supporting characters lives on.
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Via the god awful USS Sulaco group on Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/groups/594532837265674/permalink/7659046734147547/?mibextid=K35XfP
I can't find any actual source for it.
Another apparent behind-the-scenes shot of Fede. Apparently came from Twitter but I can't find it from a quick search.
https://www.facebook.com/photo?fbid=746194207493949&set=a.392630479516992
Quote from: Corporal Hicks on Mar 22, 2024, 07:06:32 AMAnother apparent behind-the-scenes shot of Fede. Apparently came from Twitter but I can't find it from a quick search.
https://www.facebook.com/photo?fbid=746194207493949&set=a.392630479516992
Doesn't load...
Found it on Twitter. How to upload photos from your phone?
For the love of god I hope just once the alien isn't completely defeated. Like how David stood over the one girl about to go to sleep in covenant. I would like to see a xeno coiled up in the background stowed away with the humans
What if Big Chap survived the original movie only to be killed outright in this by some quippy zoomer?
Quote from: Local Trouble on Mar 22, 2024, 07:39:46 AMWhat if Big Chap survived the original movie only to be killed outright in this by some quippy zoomer?
It'd be a Matrix 4 level shitpost if done intentionally to agitate.
Bonus points if
Spoiler
Ash 2 is single-handedly destroyed by a 90lb zoomer when he tries to give her the rolled-up porn mag treatment.
Spoiler
Sounds like Ash 2.0 already got f**ked yup before the film started
Quote from: MistressTeqila on Mar 22, 2024, 07:21:57 AMQuote from: Corporal Hicks on Mar 22, 2024, 07:06:32 AMAnother apparent behind-the-scenes shot of Fede. Apparently came from Twitter but I can't find it from a quick search.
https://www.facebook.com/photo?fbid=746194207493949&set=a.392630479516992
Doesn't load...
Found it on Twitter. How to upload photos from your phone?
Easiest is just to copy the image link from Twitter and paste it here.
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GJOwTdubUAA1hG3?format=jpg&name=large)
Which account shared it?
Quote from: 𝔗𝔥𝔢 𝔈𝔦𝔤𝔥𝔱𝔥 𝔓𝔞𝔰𝔰𝔢𝔫𝔤𝔢𝔯 on Mar 22, 2024, 08:02:32 AMQuote from: MistressTeqila on Mar 22, 2024, 07:21:57 AMQuote from: Corporal Hicks on Mar 22, 2024, 07:06:32 AMAnother apparent behind-the-scenes shot of Fede. Apparently came from Twitter but I can't find it from a quick search.
https://www.facebook.com/photo?fbid=746194207493949&set=a.392630479516992
Doesn't load...
Found it on Twitter. How to upload photos from your phone?
Easiest is just to copy the image link from Twitter and paste it here.
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GJOwTdubUAA1hG3?format=jpg&name=large
thanks
Quote from: Corporal Hicks on Mar 22, 2024, 08:12:33 AMWhich account shared it?
Don't know who the OP is. It's all over the place on Twitter now with everyone sharing it. 🤷
Fair enough. It wasn't in the press package that went out with the trailer.
@Local Trouble, note the dirt, grime and weathering on that bulkhead support against which Fede's elbow is resting.
Quote from: Local Trouble on Mar 22, 2024, 07:50:40 AMBonus points if
Spoiler
Ash 2 is single-handedly destroyed by a 90lb zoomer when he tries to give her the rolled-up porn mag treatment.
Reminder to use spoiler tags outside of spoiler threads. We will be enforcing those.
I didn't even know
Spoiler
it was going to have a porn mag in it. :o
While this isn't Romulus news, I think it's a good breakdown on the chatter about practical effects. I fully expect completely replaced practical effects with CGI. In some cases, I would say it absolutely needs the CGI replacements.
https://twitter.com/tvaziri/status/1771685397635977216
Quote from: Mike's Monsters on Mar 24, 2024, 04:48:45 AMWhile this isn't Romulus news, I think it's a good breakdown on the chatter about practical effects. I fully expect completely replaced practical effects with CGI. In some cases, I would say it absolutely needs the CGI replacements.
I'm no expert but, this tracks with what I do know. It'd be lovely if more survived intact (and was good enough to make the cut to begin with), but it's understandable especially with modern audiences.
It's gross how people are framing Fede's interview as saying there's no CGI in the movie. He flat out says they use it where appropriate but his comments about making puppets for all the creatures is getting turned into the shittiest of clickbait headlines.
While Fede's comments did excite me quite a bit, I am fully aware plenty of visual effects will and probably already have been added to the finished film. I'm just happy to hear there were practical things done in camera rather than a bunch of tennis balls or green screens. I'm sure there may have been a little bit of that, but based on what I have read it sounds like the actors filmed on a built out set and had on-set props/puppets/etc to react too instead of this being filmed in an Atlanta parking lot.
Obviously there's all sorts of movie magic that happens on set and in post, but I appreciated Fede's comments while fully being aware that numerous VFX artists are hard at work currently 8)
I think we'll see plenty of practical stuff in the finished film. I don't see it being like Covenant where the suit was only for reference, or The Thing where everything was painted over by the studio. The fact it's a practical Alien head at the end is refreshing.
I hope the hard work of everyone, practical and CGI, will blend well and get to shine in this movie.
I was really dissatisfied with Covenant in that aspect.
Quote from: SiL on Mar 24, 2024, 05:17:58 AMIt's gross how people are framing Fede's interview as saying there's no CGI in the movie. He flat out says they use it where appropriate but his comments about making puppets for all the creatures is getting turned into the shittiest of clickbait headlines.
Yeah, i also don't understand why this happened.
The guy clearly said that he isn't anti-CGI, he just said that he tried to build every practical set and effect that can be possibly used, while using the CGI (not green screen) for what he can't do with practicall effects (whether it's scope or movements).
Quote from: Corporal Hicks on Mar 22, 2024, 07:02:56 AMQuote from: RidgeTop on Mar 22, 2024, 06:12:21 AMhttps://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/783114751713738754/1220565925452058684/IMG_3211.jpg?ex=660f6799&is=65fcf299&hm=fe4ed9844450dbd2ed8ea9b5d35151f533da00b8ccf6f25c4e1ad0ad0442e287&
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Via the god awful USS Sulaco group on Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/groups/594532837265674/permalink/7659046734147547/?mibextid=K35XfP
I can't find any actual source for it.
The source is the RPF; https://www.therpf.com/forums/threads/alien-romulus-pulse-rifle.356853 - looks to be someone associated with the production.
Off-white rather than grey as it read in the teaser. Overall Kriss Vector vibe but not actually based on it. As someone points out, the grip/lower receiver is now cast from a Beretta PM12 rather than a Thompson but has a Thompson gripframe retainer stuck to it as a greeblie. Definitely looks like a built-in torch rather than an underbarrel launcher, despite using an M203 grenade launcher grip.
They're gonna have the Giger skull, f**k yeah, don't let local trouble know
https://twitter.com/ILMVFX/status/1770486364263375274
ILM!
Quote from: Nightmare Asylum on Mar 24, 2024, 06:09:07 PMhttps://twitter.com/ILMVFX/status/1770486364263375274
ILM!
Could ILM be responsible for
Spoiler
bringing back Ian Holm to life?
ILM is cool.
Quote from: Salt The Fries on Mar 24, 2024, 06:27:27 PMQuote from: Nightmare Asylum on Mar 24, 2024, 06:09:07 PMhttps://twitter.com/ILMVFX/status/1770486364263375274
ILM!
Could ILM be responsible for Spoiler
bringing back Ian Holm to life?
Legacy Effects.
Spoiler
It was a puppet first. The AI talk is likely about deep fake effects in post production. The voice sounded similar, but may have been an impersonator. Not sure if the voice was AI. Lots of leak reports don't have it worded exactly right. Who is doing the deepfake is still the question.
Quote from: Nightmare Asylum on Mar 24, 2024, 06:09:07 PMhttps://twitter.com/ILMVFX/status/1770486364263375274
ILM!
I thought the CG looked superior to what is seen in some other films save for the new Dune films.
Quote from: Biggles on Mar 24, 2024, 02:22:17 PMQuote from: Corporal Hicks on Mar 22, 2024, 07:02:56 AMQuote from: RidgeTop on Mar 22, 2024, 06:12:21 AMhttps://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/783114751713738754/1220565925452058684/IMG_3211.jpg?ex=660f6799&is=65fcf299&hm=fe4ed9844450dbd2ed8ea9b5d35151f533da00b8ccf6f25c4e1ad0ad0442e287&
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/783114751713738754/1220565931265364099/IMG_3212.jpg?ex=660f679b&is=65fcf29b&hm=406c7c39f1fcac79d0f41e201cdbe43b794254742bc0fa4eb56daa5e4617f963&
Via the god awful USS Sulaco group on Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/groups/594532837265674/permalink/7659046734147547/?mibextid=K35XfP
I can't find any actual source for it.
The source is the RPF; https://www.therpf.com/forums/threads/alien-romulus-pulse-rifle.356853 - looks to be someone associated with the production.
Off-white rather than grey as it read in the teaser. Overall Kriss Vector vibe but not actually based on it. As someone points out, the grip/lower receiver is now cast from a Beretta PM12 rather than a Thompson but has a Thompson gripframe retainer stuck to it as a greeblie. Definitely looks like a built-in torch rather than an underbarrel launcher, despite using an M203 grenade launcher grip.
You absolute legend, Jonathan! Thanks for that.
Built-in torch would be reminiscent of Resurrection.
Combining a theory i saw from LV-426 and some comments made by Fede alvarez, there are lots of interesting ways to theorize about the potential of the Romulus title.
So, Fede said that the main setting of the movie is the Renassaince Station, which is divided by two modules, the old one, Remus, and the new and pristine one, Romulus.
Spoiler
Now, some extra footage from instagram, showed what appears to be a Xeno being carried by "Weyland-Yutani" into a facility of theirs (Renassaince Station).
Fede also talked about the myth of Romulus, in which twin brothers (Romulus and Remus) fed of a she-wolf in order to get their powers.
In the future, the brothers had a disagreement, which lead to Romulus killing Remus and then starting his "empire" of Rome.
Now, the Xeno will probably be the she-wolf of this myth, with both modules of Renassaince Station wanting to experiment and get its powers.
There were some spoilers, that the Xeno got reverse-engineered into the black goo (The Prometheus Strain), which lead to them wanting to use it as means to cure all diseases, but now... as we all know, the black goo isn't capable of curing diseases, only killing and mutating living things into monsters.
So, i can see the Remus station wanting to eradicate all traces of the black goo, since it would be deemed as too dangerous to work with, while the Romulus station will see the black goo and the Xenos as a potential bio-weapon.
So that is where the disagreement will ensue, so the Romulus station (maybe by their own choice or simply a special order from the bio-weapons division) will sacrifice the Remus module and their scientists by unleashing the black goo and Xenos on them, and therefore creating a new "Rome/Hive".
One day, the people of Remus are working and discussing/debating with the people of Romulus on what should be done to the black goo, and on the next day, they are being killed by the black goo and Xenos, without even knowing how and why, simply thinking that a massive outbreak has happened and wishing for the people of Romulus to be safe, even though they are the ones that did this behind their backs.
That would go to show an extremely vicious and nefarious scheme of the Company, to have its employees sacrifice and kill their own coworkers.
Would it imply
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that the Romulus module stays intact ?
Quote from: BigDaddyJohn on Mar 25, 2024, 02:39:09 PMWould it imply Spoiler
that the Romulus module stays intact ?
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Well, as we all know, all empires fall, so i can see this biting the Romulus module crew in the ass and the Xeno hive simply spreading into their own turf as well, therefore making the entire station abandoned/derelict, only for it to be found by Raines and the rest of the scavengers as they try to figure out the mystery behind the Romulus.
A nice dose of karma for the crew of Romulus, given how they chose to sacrifice the people of Remus in order to see the effects of the Xenomorphs and black goo on human bodies.
There is something really eerie about a potential plot point of your coworkers, "friends", people that you've worked with and spent years together doing something so evil behind your back and throwing you into the wolves (Xeno).
I could see a small flashback happening, like the one in which David killed the Engineers with black goo, but on a more personal and intimate scale, since it would be with actual humans and inside of a space station.
One day, they are working and debating/discussing what to do with the Prometheus Strain with the other crew (Romulus) and in the next die, they are being killed and they don't even have the time to think of how and why.
Maybe even wishing that there has been a massive outbreak and that they hope that the people of Romulus are safe, even though they were the ones that did this behind their back.
That is, if this is even true in the first place hahaha
But i am kind of bias, since one of my favorite aspects of this franchise, is the banality of evil that comes with the Weyland-Yutani company and how they will sacrifice countless lives in order to get what they want (Xeno).
Fictional monsters can be scary, but there is something far more terrifying to Humanity's ability to dispose of itself.
I'm sure we'll get enough evil WY in this one.
Quote from: BigDaddyJohn on Mar 25, 2024, 03:44:51 PMI'm sure we'll get enough evil WY in this one.
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Quote from: Local Trouble on Mar 25, 2024, 04:14:56 PMQuote from: BigDaddyJohn on Mar 25, 2024, 03:44:51 PMI'm sure we'll get enough evil WY in this one.
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Why?
Because it's cartoonish, which probably means it's exactly what we'll get.
https://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/index.php?topic=66040.msg2586980#msg2586980
Their motive was always greed. A very human motive to have.
Doesn't mean their methods need to be cartoony/bond villian though. Burke is a good example of greed done right, his first plan was try and be subtle, investigate first and then try and get exclusive rights. When that went wrong and his actions exposed, he then panicked and planned to infect Ripley and Newt, which was clearly desperation, and you can see the nervousness and sweat while it was happening.
Point being, as scummy as Burke was, he was not mustache twirling evil.
I agree, but when did you see other WY people being depicted as mustache twirling evil in the movies ?
While not technically W-Y, The USM from Rez were.
And if you go to the prequels. You got Weyland's pursuit of life expansion or immortality (sure he was not overly malicious just ignorant of everyone else) In Covenant you got David being a card carrying villian.
Its worse in the EU of course and recent movies have leaned on tropes a bit too much. So I would not put it past folks to go full supervillain with them in future media.
The entire premise of this movie smacks of EUification, so I fully expect any portrayal of the company to follow suit.
Quote from: Local Trouble on Mar 25, 2024, 05:49:42 PMThe entire premise of this movie smacks of EUification, so I fully expect any portrayal of the company to follow suit.
We got evil WY in Alien 3.
Quote from: SiL on Oct 15, 2022, 07:34:35 PMEven Alien 3 doesn't solidify any sort of overarching Evil Company scheme. They want to f**k around and find out about the Alien, sure. But they aren't abjectly evil in going about it. The only person they kill violently assaults one of them with an improvised weapon first; they escort the survivor out.
Every other depiction of the company in EU, such as Alien 3: The Gun, would have the Company just shoot everyone.
The Auriga team is more comic book villain, using human hosts rather than livestock.
Quote from: 𝔗𝔥𝔢 𝔈𝔦𝔤𝔥𝔱𝔥 𝔓𝔞𝔰𝔰𝔢𝔫𝔤𝔢𝔯 on Mar 25, 2024, 06:13:17 PMQuote from: Local Trouble on Mar 25, 2024, 05:49:42 PMThe entire premise of this movie smacks of EUification, so I fully expect any portrayal of the company to follow suit.
We got evil WY in Alien 3.
While definitely shady, I think they were fairly ambiguous in alien 3 rather than evil, for all we know they could have genuinely been sincere in trying to save Ripley's life, granted they definitely would have kept the Queen. Plus Morse was spared despite Ripley thinking witnesses would be killed.
One thing I do like is that Ripley is flawed here, she is prone to bias based on her previous experiences. So her statement about the company is based through her perspective.
Quote from: The Cruentus on Mar 25, 2024, 06:33:01 PMfor all we know they could have genuinely been sincere in trying to save Ripley's life
Ah yes, the Company that once deemed her expendable in order to get a Xeno, would now care about her life.
If anything, her dying would help them after the Queen bursted through her, since it would mean one less witness.
The company or a few individuals in the company? because We don't know for sure how many were involved with the orders in Alien, and Burke was acting alone in the second movie. The company didn't deem Ripley anything.
If they wanted Ripley dead to eliminate witnesses, then why spare Morse?
It's possible that a human being didn't issue the crew is expendable Special order
All semantics really.
The language of the films is very blatantly that the company and/or being a greedy corpo are bad.
They are negligent for sure, but they are not supervillians nor should they be.
Labeling people's lives as "expendable" for potential profits hardly counts as negligence imo. That's pretty direct.
Don't think it comes across as particularly moustache-twirling supervillainism either.
In fact it comes across more as a "seeing people as merely numbers on a screen" type of passiveness that still is evil in a more subtle and impactful way.
Quote from: PortugueseXeno on Mar 25, 2024, 06:43:38 PMIf anything, her dying would help them after the Queen bursted through her, since it would mean one less witness.
And yet Morse lived, and was eventually released.
Quote from: David Weyland on Mar 25, 2024, 06:56:27 PMIt's possible that a human being didn't issue the crew is expendable Special order
We know it was you.
Quote from: Cosmic Incubation on Mar 25, 2024, 07:03:55 PMLabeling people's lives as "expendable" for potential profits hardly counts as negligence imo. That's pretty direct.
Don't think it comes across as particularly moustache-twirling supervillainism either.
In fact it comes across more as a "seeing people as merely numbers on a screen" type of passiveness that still is evil in a more subtle and impactful way.
That is not really evil though, a lot of busineses think of things in terms of numbers and logic. That is why I say negligent, thinking about things in terms of numbers, logic or priority while neglecting stuff that could impact those.
For example, a simple order such as "bring back life-form, other priorities rescinded" does not = kill crew members. It just meant they were not a priority. But Ash malfunctioned trying to bring back said life-form while the crew kept trying to kill it, so it caused an error in how he was meant to complete his goal. They neglected to add any way for the orders to be interpreted in a way that wouldn't cause mayhem or to anticipate the situation getting out of hand.
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Please someone confirm this before i get too excited and finally feel like I can have my mind rest in peace.
Honestly I would not rely completely on youtube, as while there are some folk on there that are legit sources, most out there are a bunch of clickbaiters. not to mention plagiarists.
That being said, Noah Hawley's series is basically going to ignore the prequels to an extent.
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There is supposed to be black goo involved in the story. It is extracted from Big Chap. So this movie acknowledge what the prequels went for.
Quote from: The Cruentus on Mar 25, 2024, 07:14:53 PMQuote from: Cosmic Incubation on Mar 25, 2024, 07:03:55 PMLabeling people's lives as "expendable" for potential profits hardly counts as negligence imo. That's pretty direct.
Don't think it comes across as particularly moustache-twirling supervillainism either.
In fact it comes across more as a "seeing people as merely numbers on a screen" type of passiveness that still is evil in a more subtle and impactful way.
That is not really evil though, a lot of busineses think of things in terms of numbers and logic. That is why I say negligent, thinking about things in terms of numbers, logic or priority while neglecting stuff that could impact those.
For example, a simple order such as "bring back life-form, other priorities rescinded" does not = kill crew members. It just meant they were not a priority. But Ash malfunctioned trying to bring back said life-form while the crew kept trying to kill it, so it caused an error in how he was meant to complete his goal. They neglected to add any way for the orders to be interpreted in a way that wouldn't cause mayhem or to anticipate the situation getting out of hand.
Yeah I respectfully think we just fundamentally have different views on what counts as "evil", as well as different interpretations of what the film was going for tbh.
Fair enough but evil is usually about intent. The company don't intentionally go out of their way to kill people, Burke excluded as he was acting alone. People die and they are just pretty much apathetic to it.
So I'm guessing the fact that Neil Aliens 5 antagonist would've just done evil things because they can. I can pretty much agree that your needs to be more realism with WY motivations. Is it too much to ask for like a different Antagonist like a terrorist group or something else.
Quote from: The Cruentus on Mar 25, 2024, 07:38:12 PMFair enough but evil is usually about intent. The company don't intentionally go out of their way to kill people, Burke excluded as he was acting alone. People die and they are just pretty much apathetic to it.
I think we agree that it was most likely a more apathetic than not act from the company. But I'm more of the belief that apathy doesn't prevent an act from being evil, and can even be it's own form of evil. Especially when it leads to the deaths of others.
I would not mind seeing a cult or terrorist as antagonists. Both can be fanatical or highly immoral.
Quote from: [cancerblack] on Mar 25, 2024, 07:07:12 PMAnd yet Morse lived, and was eventually released.
Actually, he was rescued from captivity by the USCM.
Well, I meant "released from the Patna/whatever blacksite into another prison", as opposed to debriefed then shot unceremoniously.
Never heard about this marine business.
Assuming Ash had been successful, I can imagine a scene like this playing out upon the Nostromo's return to Earth:
QuoteINT. MARCUS CHEN'S OFFICE - NIGHT
The office is a personal refuge amidst the corporate austerity of Weyland-Yutani, cluttered with mining equipment and electronic displays of space operations. MARCUS CHEN, a seasoned executive of the Mining Division, looks weary but resolute behind his desk. DR. LENA MORRIS, a representative from the Bio-Weapons Division, stands at the threshold, her posture radiating both urgency and opportunity.
CHEN
(Rubbing his temples, voice laden with exhaustion)
Lena, I suppose you've heard the news.
MORRIS
(Stepping forward, her expression a controlled blend of sympathy and curiosity)
Of course, Marcus. It's a tragedy.
CHEN
(Laughing hollowly, his cynicism palpable)
A tragedy? That's one word for it. I'd call it a goddamned disaster. The entire crew is dead, and the thing that killed them is holed up somewhere on board.
MORRIS
(Tilting her head slightly, a flicker of intrigue in her eyes)
I heard the science officer survived.
CHEN
(Clutching the edge of his desk, his frustration boiling over)
And don't even get me started on the f**king android. It keeps calmly asking us for permission to dock, as if there's nothing out of the ordinary. It's creepy.
MORRIS
(Nodding, her tone pragmatic)
It's just doing its job, Marcus.
CHEN
(Throwing his hands up in a gesture of despair)
Hell of a lot of good that did the crew. I want it off my ship. I want them both off.
MORRIS
(Advancing, her gaze locked on Chen, betraying a hint of ambition)
That's why I'm here.
CHEN
(Squinting at Morris, suspicion lacing his words)
Yeah, I thought so. The bodies aren't even cold, and you can't wait to get your hands on that monster.
MORRIS
(Shrugging, her demeanor casual but eyes revealing a sharp focus)
I'm just trying to make lemonade out of lemons. I won't deny that this creature is a big find, though.
CHEN
(Leaning back, his skepticism giving way to reluctant interest)
Then I assume you're offering to secure it so I can have my ship back?
MORRIS
(Smiling thinly, confidence underpinning her proposition)
If you'd rather send in a team to shoot it, my specimen will be nothing but a corpse, but your ship will end up needing more than a fresh coat of paint. I'll take it either way, but I'd prefer it alive. Your call.
CHEN
(Furrowing his brow, the gravity of the situation weighing on him)
My call? I think you're forgetting the ICC. It's been all I can do to keep them from towing the Nostromo out of orbit and scuttling it.
MORRIS
(Crossing her arms, her smile widening with a hint of triumph)
I've already had that discussion with them. As long as we follow protocol, they're leaving it in our hands.
CHEN
(Sighing deeply, resignation mixed with a trace of defiance evident in his tone)
You certainly came prepared. Alright, you have my blessing. Just try not to make an even bigger mess, please.
As the conversation concludes, the uneasy alliance between the Mining and Bio-Weapons divisions is solidified, setting the stage for the complex and risky task ahead.
Been looking at the poster, the jaw and chin of the Xenomorph is very sharp. I surmise its a artistic license, but then again Xenos tend get some unique changes in each film. I like it if so.
https://twitter.com/jacobpking/status/1772374099987157330
Nice.
Quote from: Local Trouble on Mar 25, 2024, 05:49:42 PMThe entire premise of this movie smacks of EUification, so I fully expect any portrayal of the company to follow suit.
Youre just mad that this movie will be full on #teamskull
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#teamskull all the way ;)
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"Skullduggery is afoot!" -Fraiser Crane
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I tried to copy and paste of skull art, but it didn't work out so this has to do
Yeah if that's supposed to be ASCII art or something it just looks like you had a stroke.
Quote from: SiL on Mar 26, 2024, 12:18:21 AMYeah if that's supposed to be ASCII art or something it just looks like you had a stroke.
I'm sorry I'm trying my best : (
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Holy Skulls Batman :o
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I just copy and paste this SkullArt, so I didn't made it
Scull Tiger? Wtf?
Just rewatched Prometheus and that mountain is ominious..
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Quote from: E. Shaw on Mar 26, 2024, 05:27:19 AMJust rewatched Prometheus and that mountain is ominious..
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It was probably an Engineer head originally, but was eventually ground down to a skull.
I always wished that was more prominent.
That was a nice visual, this movie had many, what a waste.
Gotta work that Dune concept art in somehow.
Made me wonder if there was two cultures of engineers, those who seed life and those who sought to use the seed of life (black goo) to destroy. The skull being the symbol of the military who took the black goo and weaponized it.
Quote from: E. Shaw on Mar 26, 2024, 03:21:52 PMMade me wonder if there was two cultures of engineers, those who seed life and those who sought to use the seed of life (black goo) to destroy. The skull being the symbol of the military who took the black goo and weaponized it.
While I'm not sure if there's enough in the text of the films themselves to support the two specific factions you laid out there, I would say that inferring that there are multiple different sub-cultures/classes/castes of Engineer seems to track. The perfected godlike beings in
Prometheus feel a world apart from the more run of the mill variety looking towards the stars waiting for the return of their savior in
Covenant. And that's before even throwing the original Space Jockey (unless he's David, of course ;)) into the mix.
I like to think that the Engineers, given their tendency to bio-mechanically augment themselves to various extents/extremes, have a wide array of appearances that branch off from their more "pure" forms, while all still fall under the same umbrella race, technically.
Anyone have any idea if there is a novelisation of Romulus in the works and will it be Alan Dean Foster writing it again.
Not really a fan of his writing but I did really like the Covenant novelisation. It's also good on audiobook.
Quote from: Nightmare Asylum on Mar 26, 2024, 05:00:54 PMQuote from: E. Shaw on Mar 26, 2024, 03:21:52 PMMade me wonder if there was two cultures of engineers, those who seed life and those who sought to use the seed of life (black goo) to destroy. The skull being the symbol of the military who took the black goo and weaponized it.
While I'm not sure if there's enough in the text of the films themselves to support the two specific factions you laid out there, I would say that inferring that there are multiple different sub-cultures/classes/castes of Engineer seems to track. The perfected godlike beings in Prometheus feel a world apart from the more run of the mill variety looking towards the stars waiting for the return of their savior in Covenant. And that's before even throwing the original Space Jockey (unless he's David, of course ;)) into the mix.
I like to think that the Engineers, given their tendency to bio-mechanically augment themselves to various extents/extremes, have a wide array of appearances that branch off from their more "pure" forms, while all still fall under the same umbrella race, technically.
I like that.
I saw two cultures in that at the beginning the Engineer takes the black goo and it does not created hybrid form, it seeds the planet with life, while the black goo on the planet Prometheus lands on creates parasites, and hybrid forms that kill, not bring life.
To me the Engineer at the beginning was pure and gave its life for creation like Sumerian gods, but the Engineers later seem military, developing a weapon to bring death; or well hybrid forms that are hostile.
Even the ships differ, the one at the beginning a saucer or full moon shape oppose to the crescent moon of the Derelict ships.
Fede Alvarez said that the the scene is hinted at in the beginning of the teaser (the dark corridors panning to the bloody sleep/cryo-pod), with some dialogue in the back.
The dialogue of the teaser (and that aludes to that scene) was:
Woman/Isabella - "Help. Somebody help me please".
Man - "I don't know what it is".
Woman/Isabella - "Get it away from me".
Another Woman - "come on, come on, come on, come on...".
Another Man - "Open the door!!!".
Isabella - "Help!!!".
We hear this dialogue while at the same time, there appears to be some Xeno screeching in the background.
Also, Fede alvarez also said that he wanted to make a scene that had never been seen on an Alien movie before, but not only that, but in the history of cinema as well.
Those who have seen his movies, know that he is capable of truly gnarly, horrifying and suspensful sequences (turkey Baster in Don't Breathe or tree scene in Evil Dead, or the entirety of Evil Dead lol).
So what are your theories?
If we were to take @Mike's Monsters hint/tease on his youtube video, then it appears that there will be some sort of X-Ray scene involving a chestburster (kind of like what happened in Alien 3).
So, on face value, the most likely theory (given all the info and hints we have) would be that Isabella has a chestburster inside of her and she gets put in a pod (that would eventually get bloody, given what we see in the teaser).
But that seems really straightforward and not at all what Fede Alaverez hyped, so there is something more going on here...
The audio is unrelated and taken from several scenes.
You can hear what sounds like thumping footfalls (stompy sounding) in that audio just before the Alien screech.
Be interesting if there is two Xenomorph hives, one Romulus and one Remus fighting in the space station for hosts.
Quote from: E. Shaw on Mar 26, 2024, 05:12:41 PMQuote from: Nightmare Asylum on Mar 26, 2024, 05:00:54 PMQuote from: E. Shaw on Mar 26, 2024, 03:21:52 PMMade me wonder if there was two cultures of engineers, those who seed life and those who sought to use the seed of life (black goo) to destroy. The skull being the symbol of the military who took the black goo and weaponized it.
While I'm not sure if there's enough in the text of the films themselves to support the two specific factions you laid out there, I would say that inferring that there are multiple different sub-cultures/classes/castes of Engineer seems to track. The perfected godlike beings in Prometheus feel a world apart from the more run of the mill variety looking towards the stars waiting for the return of their savior in Covenant. And that's before even throwing the original Space Jockey (unless he's David, of course ;)) into the mix.
I like to think that the Engineers, given their tendency to bio-mechanically augment themselves to various extents/extremes, have a wide array of appearances that branch off from their more "pure" forms, while all still fall under the same umbrella race, technically.
I like that.
I saw two cultures in that at the beginning the Engineer takes the black goo and it does not created hybrid form, it seeds the planet with life, while the black goo on the planet Prometheus lands on creates parasites, and hybrid forms that kill, not bring life.
To me the Engineer at the beginning was pure and gave its life for creation like Sumerian gods, but the Engineers later seem military, developing a weapon to bring death; or well hybrid forms that are hostile.
Even the ships differ, the one at the beginning a saucer or full moon shape oppose to the crescent moon of the Derelict ships.
Space Jockeys may be a subspecies of Engineers. As
Cyberpunk edgerunners meet
Scorn's biopunk body horror entities...
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...and perhaps these Engineers, already genetically modified, created biomechanical suits that are symbiotic parasites that are alive and establish a symbiosis with the user / host, ala
Bio-Booster Armor Guyver🤔(https://s9.gifyu.com/images/SVvUV.gif)
I hope this movie will surprise me regarding the deaths of it's characters.
Spacejockeys, jockeying for position as "princes of the universe."
Quote from: BigDaddyJohn on Mar 27, 2024, 12:23:13 AMI hope this movie will surprise me regarding the deaths of it's characters.
The Covenant trailer was definitely a spoiler so I am glad this new trailer was more reserved and only showed what was needed for a trailer.
That being said though, just like with Oram, we do know which character gets facehugged and we see that she was unconscious so it was on her long enough to knock her out but we also see it getting pulled off her, but whether or not the hugger was killed before or after implantation (its fairly limp when being pulled of the character's face so its likely dead) is anyone's guess. If it functions like it did with Lope though, then she is likely dead.
Quote from: PortugueseXeno on Mar 26, 2024, 11:19:55 PMFede Alvarez said that the the scene is hinted at in the beginning of the teaser (the dark corridors panning to the bloody sleep/cryo-pod), with some dialogue in the back.
The dialogue of the teaser (and that aludes to that scene) was:
Woman/Isabella - "Help. Somebody help me please".
Man - "I don't know what it is".
Woman/Isabella - "Get it away from me".
Another Woman - "come on, come on, come on, come on...".
Another Man - "Open the door!!!".
Isabella - "Help!!!".
We hear this dialogue while at the same time, there appears to be some Xeno screeching in the background.
Also, Fede alvarez also said that he wanted to make a scene that had never been seen on an Alien movie before, but not only that, but in the history of cinema as well.
Those who have seen his movies, know that he is capable of truly gnarly, horrifying and suspensful sequences (turkey Baster in Don't Breathe or tree scene in Evil Dead, or the entirety of Evil Dead lol).
So what are your theories?
If we were to take @Mike's Monsters hint/tease on his youtube video, then it appears that there will be some sort of X-Ray scene involving a chestburster (kind of like what happened in Alien 3).
So, on face value, the most likely theory (given all the info and hints we have) would be that Isabella has a chestburster inside of her and she gets put in a pod (that would eventually get bloody, given what we see in the teaser).
But that seems really straightforward and not at all what Fede Alaverez hyped, so there is something more going on here...
My theory was that Big Chap would be coming for her from down the hallway we see (slow and stompy, Isolation style) and while the rest of the crew is trying to open the door to get her out, she gets in the pod to hide from it only to find that a still shedding Chestburster is in the pod already and then she gets mauled or whatever from inside the pod.
I don't know if that would translate to the screen or if the logistics of that could be pulled off, but it would gnarly af and seeing a chestburster kill would be new.
maybe they'll throw acid on her, it'll be a pretty brutal and bloody show
Considering it's an audio mashup of scenes, it's impossible to tell. The chestburster idea could be interesting.
I think it involves Aileen Wu's under-developed chestburster needing a new host & climbing somehow into Isabela's character... not sure how though or through where... eek
Quote from: cockroach on Mar 27, 2024, 09:25:51 AMI think it involves Aileen Wu's under-developed chestburster needing a new host & climbing somehow into Isabela's character... not sure how though or through where... eek
That would be supremely stupid though. The Alien 3 comic did that and it was idiotic and actually makes "chestbursting" unnecessary.
Unnecessary how? It might need nutrients from the host to finish development. In the case of a Royal Alien I can absolutely see that.
Because the chestburster is clearly not attached to the host via an umbilical or sac if its able to freely leave through the mouth. The chestburster as we know it so far, gets its nutrients/dna etc, through being literally connected to the host through a cord or amniotic sac.
and the unnecessary part is that if it can leave through the mouth, it doesn't need to waste time breaking through bone and flesh.
I guess it depends where the Alien resides, the whole getting out thing I do not mind honestly, especially in the case of that adaptation where with the water it likely headed for air on instinct. As for wasting time, it might take just as long, and leave the thing vulnerable whilst it tunnels.
I do see an issue with it getting into a host though, as we know they grow in the chest cavity itself, hence having to have started as a bacteria not as an embryo.
maybe isabela hiding/trapped in the cryo tube and the chestburster breaks into in the bottoms half (spits acid to get in like in start of alien3)... would feel very claustrophobic her not being able to get out & the chestburster slowly working its way up her legs...
it looks like something horrific happens to someone trapped in a cryo tube and a normal chestbursting seems too obvious...
my guess anyways... or there's a new alien life stage or creature we not seen before doing the killing?
Good for him, that's an awesome story
I hope we return to serpentine Chestburster in this film. Covenant had walking Neomorphs and Xenomorph newborns.
I think the chestburster with proper arms and legs was important for the mirrored body language in the father/son exchange between David and the chestburster in the Covenant (and if you need to explain it away rationally, David's early biological strain is born like that but the more refined biomech ones aren't for whatever reason), but yeah, outside of the specific circumstances that Covenant presents, I think the more traditional snake-like chestburster is the way to go for the traditional Alien.
Quote from: cockroach on Mar 27, 2024, 04:53:15 PMmaybe isabela hiding/trapped in the cryo tube and the chestburster breaks into in the bottoms half (spits acid to get in like in start of alien3)... would feel very claustrophobic her not being able to get out & the chestburster slowly working its way up her legs...
it looks like something horrific happens to someone trapped in a cryo tube and a normal chestbursting seems too obvious...
my guess anyways... or there's a new alien life stage or creature we not seen before doing the killing?
It was a facehugger, not chestburster in Alien 3's opening which used acid to get in a cryopod.
Quote from: Nightmare Asylum on Mar 30, 2024, 03:23:00 AMI think the chestburster with proper arms and legs was important for the mirrored body language in the father/son exchange between David and the chestburster in the Covenant (and if you need to explain it away rationally, David's early biological strain is born like that but the more refined biomech ones aren't for whatever reason), but yeah, outside of the specific circumstances that Covenant presents, I think the more traditional snake-like chestburster is the way to go for the traditional Alien.
In all fairness, when the burster emerges it is in the snakelike appearance but quickly sheds the skin for the more imp-like appearance.
Quote from: Corporal Hicks on Mar 30, 2024, 08:33:46 AMQuote from: Nightmare Asylum on Mar 30, 2024, 03:23:00 AMI think the chestburster with proper arms and legs was important for the mirrored body language in the father/son exchange between David and the chestburster in the Covenant (and if you need to explain it away rationally, David's early biological strain is born like that but the more refined biomech ones aren't for whatever reason), but yeah, outside of the specific circumstances that Covenant presents, I think the more traditional snake-like chestburster is the way to go for the traditional Alien.
In all fairness, when the burster emerges it is in the snakelike appearance but quickly sheds the skin for the more imp-like appearance.
Yep yep. Feels very in line in that way with just how rapidly the Aliens gestate and grow in the film.
The Oscar winning chestburster, Hollywood actors can't do it better :laugh:
Quote from: BigDaddyJohn on Mar 30, 2024, 05:40:58 PMThe Oscar winning chestburster, Hollywood actors can't do it better :laugh:
We have had a chestburster, bellyburster, backburster, and mouth burster. There really is only one area left... :D :o
Actually it would be cool as farrik if twin xenos wormed through the legs, so you see the buldge in skin moving as they prepare to birth. :o
Yikes that would be nasty.
Quote from: BigDaddyJohn on Mar 30, 2024, 08:38:19 PMYikes that would be nasty.
Indeed, but very Giger and Alien. ;)
When you start classy the only place left is bottom of the barrel schlock.
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Ass-bursters is for Alien knockoffs, not Alien movies.
I just meant the sentiment itself.
Dreamcatchers did have the Byrums which exited through the ass. :laugh:
Quote from: The Cruentus on Mar 31, 2024, 11:58:26 AMDreamcatchers did have the Byrums which exited through the ass. :laugh:
The military even nicknames it "the Ripley", after "that broad from the Alien movies".
Quote from: BlueMarsalis79 on Mar 31, 2024, 10:18:05 AMI just meant the sentiment itself.
And yet look at any franchise that starts good and goes on for several decades. Inevitably they reach to those lower places for easy thrills.
Quote from: The Cruentus on Mar 31, 2024, 11:58:26 AMDreamcatchers did have the Byrums which exited through the ass. :laugh:
"The one with the shit weasels".
Quote from: SiL on Mar 31, 2024, 09:24:24 AMAss-bursters is for Alien knockoffs, not Alien movies.
I don't know Tremors made it work with A.S.S. Blasters.
Is Tremors an Alien movie?
Those are also ass-propelled, not ass-ejected.
Quote from: SiL on Mar 31, 2024, 08:56:11 PMIs Tremors an Alien movie?
Quote from: SiL on Mar 31, 2024, 08:56:11 PMIs Tremors an Alien movie?
My point is it can be done. ::)
Quote from: SiL on Mar 31, 2024, 12:28:16 AMWhen you start classy the only place left is bottom of the barrel schlock.
And yet you cannot spell classy without ass.
Quote from: E. Shaw on Mar 31, 2024, 09:00:43 PMMy point is it can be done. ::)
I never said it couldn't be done. But I did say it shouldn't be done.
Quote from: SiL on Mar 31, 2024, 09:04:58 PMQuote from: E. Shaw on Mar 31, 2024, 09:00:43 PMMy point is it can be done. ::)
I never said it couldn't be done. But I did say it shouldn't be done.
Fair enough.
Going frame by frame, you can confirm it's Aileen Wu's character that's having a facehugger removed. Obviously we don't have full scene but it doesn't look like
Spoiler
this hugger teared up her face with barbs, so it probably didn't have any. It could indicate someone else is going to get it.
I just hope the life-cycle isn't super sped or "loped", The hugger on that character looks fairly inert. So either it died from implanting her but then it shouldn't have had to be pulled off, (outside of ACM, Huggers don't usually remain attached after their death as it could kill the host, Huggers may stay on hours after implantation but will still remove themselves before they die) or they managed to kill it before removing it but that ended up killing someone in Aliens. Either way I don't think it looks good for that character.
Oh yeah she's f**ked.
Quote from: The Cruentus on Apr 02, 2024, 03:16:41 PMI just hope the life-cycle isn't super sped or "loped", The hugger on that character looks fairly inert. So either it died from implanting her but then it shouldn't have had to be pulled off, (outside of ACM, Huggers don't usually remain attached after their death as it could kill the host, Huggers may stay on hours after implantation but will still remove themselves before they die) or they managed to kill it before removing it but that ended up killing someone in Aliens. Either way I don't think it looks good for that character.
It could be that a Facehugger that is too long running around without a host gets weak and got near to death so that sheb it did attach it died shortly after; the premise being that most huggers go from egg to mouth, we see these in the trailer running around for some time. Before a rebuttal happens from Aliens, those facehuggers were kept in tubes with liquid that simulates the liquid like the eggs have, and those two that attacked Ripley and Newt were in sprinkler water as well.
Quote from: E. Shaw on Mar 30, 2024, 03:08:36 AMI hope we return to serpentine Chestburster in this film. Covenant had walking Neomorphs and Xenomorph newborns.
from the production 'crew' t-shirt illustration it looks like the chestburster is more along the lines of little 'ALIENS' arms and snake like still. (https://www.avpgalaxy.net/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2023/07/Romulus-Crew-Shirt.jpg)
Quote from: Salt The Fries on Mar 30, 2024, 03:58:25 AMQuote from: cockroach on Mar 27, 2024, 04:53:15 PMmaybe isabela hiding/trapped in the cryo tube and the chestburster breaks into in the bottoms half (spits acid to get in like in start of alien3)... would feel very claustrophobic her not being able to get out & the chestburster slowly working its way up her legs...
it looks like something horrific happens to someone trapped in a cryo tube and a normal chestbursting seems too obvious...
my guess anyways... or there's a new alien life stage or creature we not seen before doing the killing?
It was a facehugger, not chestburster in Alien 3's opening which used acid to get in a cryopod.
yep I know. I was just pointing out that they can use their acid to get into places they can't... alien resurrection had a spitter too.
I'm not sure I want aliens spitting acid in this one. If you begin to use it, then why don't aliens spam it at every chance ? It's one of their best move.
Quote from: BigDaddyJohn on Apr 03, 2024, 12:01:39 PMI'm not sure I want aliens spitting acid in this one. If you begin to use it, then why don't aliens spam it at every chance ? It's one of their best move.
agreed it didn't quite work in Alien Res. I'd def prefer not having 'spitting' aliens on humans but if a chestburster regurgitates onto a cryo tube to get in I would find that creepy/acceptable
Quote from: cockroach on Apr 03, 2024, 11:56:11 AMQuote from: E. Shaw on Mar 30, 2024, 03:08:36 AMI hope we return to serpentine Chestburster in this film. Covenant had walking Neomorphs and Xenomorph newborns.
from the production 'crew' t-shirt illustration it looks like the chestburster is more along the lines of little 'ALIENS' arms and snake like still. https://www.avpgalaxy.net/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2023/07/Romulus-Crew-Shirt.jpg
Quote from: Salt The Fries on Mar 30, 2024, 03:58:25 AMQuote from: cockroach on Mar 27, 2024, 04:53:15 PMmaybe isabela hiding/trapped in the cryo tube and the chestburster breaks into in the bottoms half (spits acid to get in like in start of alien3)... would feel very claustrophobic her not being able to get out & the chestburster slowly working its way up her legs...
it looks like something horrific happens to someone trapped in a cryo tube and a normal chestbursting seems too obvious...
my guess anyways... or there's a new alien life stage or creature we not seen before doing the killing?
It was a facehugger, not chestburster in Alien 3's opening which used acid to get in a cryopod.
yep I know. I was just pointing out that they can use their acid to get into places they can't... alien resurrection had a spitter too.
I prefer the no arms Chestburster, but this is better than Covenant's standing newborn.
Quote from: cockroach on Apr 03, 2024, 01:20:38 PMQuote from: BigDaddyJohn on Apr 03, 2024, 12:01:39 PMI'm not sure I want aliens spitting acid in this one. If you begin to use it, then why don't aliens spam it at every chance ? It's one of their best move.
agreed it didn't quite work in Alien Res. I'd def prefer not having 'spitting' aliens on humans but if a chestburster regurgitates onto a cryo tube to get in I would find that creepy/acceptable
The power of the Xenoloogie should be limited or else Jurassic Park's Spitter will have a competitor.
I'd rather see more tail attacks than acid spitting attacks. Acid burns because of wounding an alien are great though, I'd love that too.
Quote from: BigDaddyJohn on Apr 04, 2024, 08:45:32 AMI'd rather see more tail attacks than acid spitting attacks. Acid burns because of wounding an alien are great though, I'd love that too.
I want to see a Xeno use its tail to grab someone and you hear Scorpion's, "get over here!" :D
Quote from: E. Shaw on Apr 05, 2024, 04:20:06 AMQuote from: BigDaddyJohn on Apr 04, 2024, 08:45:32 AMI'd rather see more tail attacks than acid spitting attacks. Acid burns because of wounding an alien are great though, I'd love that too.
I want to see a Xeno use its tail to grab someone and you hear Scorpion's, "get over here!" :D
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I want marvel to hire him, for the comics. Let's his reputation Be known.
When I grow up I want to be as cool as Spaghetti.
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Jackson huh ? Very random name for a company.
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Quote from: BigDaddyJohn on Apr 05, 2024, 11:55:35 PMJackson huh ? Very random name for a company.
Looks to me like it could be the name of the town (a la Hadley's Hope) rather than of a corporation.
Quote from: Nightmare Asylum on Apr 06, 2024, 11:42:05 AMQuote from: BigDaddyJohn on Apr 05, 2024, 11:55:35 PMJackson huh ? Very random name for a company.
Looks to me like it could be the name of the town (a la Hadley's Hope) than of a corporation.
Jackson Colony, Jackson Outpost - yep, both roll off the tongue.
I wonder where it is? More to the point, will it appear on the RPG maps going forward?
Quote from: Nightmare Asylum on Apr 06, 2024, 11:42:05 AMQuote from: BigDaddyJohn on Apr 05, 2024, 11:55:35 PMJackson huh ? Very random name for a company.
Looks to me like it could be the name of the town (a la Hadley's Hope) rather than of a corporation.
I agree it's more likely. Also I'm curious about how the racism towards synthetics will be handled here. It was glimpsed in Prometheus with Holloway towards David, I would've liked to see it more because I think it was an interesting theme.
Quote from: Nightmare Asylum on Apr 06, 2024, 11:42:05 AMQuote from: BigDaddyJohn on Apr 05, 2024, 11:55:35 PMJackson huh ? Very random name for a company.
Looks to me like it could be the name of the town (a la Hadley's Hope) rather than of a corporation.
Perhaps it's named after Jackson, the capital of Mississippi?
Old colonial tradition, look at all the towns in America, Australia, NZ named after British towns.
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Looks to me like it could be the name of the town (a la Hadley's Hope) rather than of a corporation.
Perhaps it's named after Jackson, the capital of Mississippi?
Old colonial tradition, look at all the towns in America, Australia, NZ named after British towns.
A lot of french names in southern US also.
Quote from: BigDaddyJohn on Apr 06, 2024, 01:52:48 PMQuote from: 𝔗𝔥𝔢 𝔈𝔦𝔤𝔥𝔱𝔥 𝔓𝔞𝔰𝔰𝔢𝔫𝔤𝔢𝔯 on Apr 06, 2024, 01:31:28 PMQuote from: Nightmare Asylum on Apr 06, 2024, 11:42:05 AMQuote from: BigDaddyJohn on Apr 05, 2024, 11:55:35 PMJackson huh ? Very random name for a company.
Looks to me like it could be the name of the town (a la Hadley's Hope) rather than of a corporation.
Perhaps it's named after Jackson, the capital of Mississippi?
Old colonial tradition, look at all the towns in America, Australia, NZ named after British towns.
A lot of french names in southern US also.
That's true, Napoleon sold a lot of French colonial territory in America to the US.
"Jackson" also sounds very frontier town. Kind of town you might come across in a Western.
Jackson's Landing is the capital of a colony in the Aliens Dark Descent game, according to one of the comments.
It's cool we get to see an actual city in an Alien movie, besides Hadley's Hope it never happened. And that one was pretty much dead most of the time.
Probably gonna be a small city though.
I went and seen the first omen yesterday and did not see an Alien trailer
I still haven't seen the Romulus trailer on the big screen yet, either. Haven't even gotten the second Furiosa trailer yet... even after the release of trailer #2, I've still exclusively been getting the first one for that.
Seeing Monkey Man and Civil War this coming week though, will see if anything changes.
Quote from: Nightmare Asylum on Apr 06, 2024, 03:15:28 PMI still haven't seen the Romulus trailer on the big screen yet, either. Haven't even gotten the second Furiosa trailer yet... even after the release of trailer #2, I've still exclusively been getting the first one for that.
Seeing Monkey Man and Civil War this coming week though, will see if anything changes.
They ought to play the Romulus trailer before the Alien (1979) releases in theaters. :)
Quote from: E. Shaw on Apr 06, 2024, 05:57:37 PMQuote from: Nightmare Asylum on Apr 06, 2024, 03:15:28 PMI still haven't seen the Romulus trailer on the big screen yet, either. Haven't even gotten the second Furiosa trailer yet... even after the release of trailer #2, I've still exclusively been getting the first one for that.
Seeing Monkey Man and Civil War this coming week though, will see if anything changes.
They ought to play the Romulus trailer before the Alien (1979) releases in theaters. :)
If what Hicks posted in the rerelease thread is true across every theater, it sounds like we might get a special
Romulus preview with
Alien's rerelease.
So is expecting a full trailer in late May reasonable ?
Seems like a Romulus clip or scene may play before the theatrical screening of ALIEN on 4/26. (https://www.orpheum.com.au/movie/alien---45th-anniversary-4k-digital-restoration?fbclid=IwAR2uqc5Xo5map8c64jFVN_r_9MIPgqKv7RXX-zGEJUraXzs-bWeQ0U2TaUs_aem_AUStuuPCeUZWpsessZjUj_ixjw2NbiNX2kowQ4Nw36I6wqA45LZoBz46l4J2vVxQHvqh7M9wyuOYGUAkaXhqLhrs)
Quote from: Nightmare Asylum on Apr 06, 2024, 06:06:00 PMQuote from: E. Shaw on Apr 06, 2024, 05:57:37 PMQuote from: Nightmare Asylum on Apr 06, 2024, 03:15:28 PMI still haven't seen the Romulus trailer on the big screen yet, either. Haven't even gotten the second Furiosa trailer yet... even after the release of trailer #2, I've still exclusively been getting the first one for that.
Seeing Monkey Man and Civil War this coming week though, will see if anything changes.
They ought to play the Romulus trailer before the Alien (1979) releases in theaters. :)
If what Hicks posted in the rerelease thread is true across every theater, it sounds like we might get a special Romulus preview with Alien's rerelease.
Another reason to see Alien in theaters! Woot! :)
Alien: Romulus poster spotted at Caesar's Palace, for CinemaCon 2024:
https://twitter.com/cinepop/status/1776723776786637008
Unfortunately, what happens in Vegas, stays in Vegas. :(
Can't wait for april 26 !
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https://twitter.com/cinepop/status/1776723776786637008
Unfortunately, what happens in Vegas, stays in Vegas. :(
Except now your can play slots on your phone. :D
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https://twitter.com/cinepop/status/1776723776786637008
Unfortunately, what happens in Vegas, stays in Vegas. :(
Oh damn, i guess Gladiator 2 is really the title of the movie.
Not going to lie, but i never expected a historical period movie to have such type of titles.
A movie set in ancient Rome taking advantage of Roman Numerals feels pretty appropriate to me.
Can't wait to see what Ridley is cooking here. Hope whatever is shown at CinemaCon makes its way online.
The casting intrigues me even more.
Quote from: Nightmare Asylum on Apr 07, 2024, 05:58:36 PMA movie set in ancient Rome taking advantage of Roman Numerals feels pretty appropriate to me.
Can't wait to see what Ridley is cooking here. Hope whatever is shown at CinemaCon makes its way online.
Ah yes, to be fair, the title is Gladiator II.
Thank you, you kind of fixed my beef with this title.
Quote from: Nightmare Asylum on Apr 07, 2024, 05:58:36 PMA movie set in ancient Rome taking advantage of Roman Numerals feels pretty appropriate to me.
Can't wait to see what Ridley is cooking here. Hope whatever is shown at CinemaCon makes its way online.
Roman numerals are more classy. It just gets hard when you reach L. :)
Quote from: E. Shaw on Apr 07, 2024, 06:14:31 PMQuote from: Nightmare Asylum on Apr 07, 2024, 05:58:36 PMA movie set in ancient Rome taking advantage of Roman Numerals feels pretty appropriate to me.
Can't wait to see what Ridley is cooking here. Hope whatever is shown at CinemaCon makes its way online.
Roman numerals are more classy. It just gets hard when you reach L. :)
They should have written the release date in Roman numerals as well. Then watch how that confusticates people.
I never knew Alien: Romulus is set between the first and second Alien movies, that is the best time for alien movie to be set I think allows for more interesting events, makes me a bit more excited for August later in the summer
Quote from: 𝔗𝔥𝔢 𝔈𝔦𝔤𝔥𝔱𝔥 𝔓𝔞𝔰𝔰𝔢𝔫𝔤𝔢𝔯 on Apr 07, 2024, 07:18:11 PMQuote from: E. Shaw on Apr 07, 2024, 06:14:31 PMQuote from: Nightmare Asylum on Apr 07, 2024, 05:58:36 PMA movie set in ancient Rome taking advantage of Roman Numerals feels pretty appropriate to me.
Can't wait to see what Ridley is cooking here. Hope whatever is shown at CinemaCon makes its way online.
Roman numerals are more classy. It just gets hard when you reach L. :)
They should have written the release date in Roman numerals as well. Then watch how that confusticates people.
XI / XXII / XXII :)
Quote from: E. Shaw on Apr 07, 2024, 08:45:42 PMXI / XXII / XXII :)
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Masterclass in appropriate poster placing?
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So my guess for CinemaCon would be the press will be shown an extended clip from the film behind doors on 11 April. Then on 26 April the clip will be released with the 45th anniversary screenings of Alien as well as online in celebration of Alien day.
Yep. Seems likely to me too.
Quote from: 𝔗𝔥𝔢 𝔈𝔦𝔤𝔥𝔱𝔥 𝔓𝔞𝔰𝔰𝔢𝔫𝔤𝔢𝔯 on Apr 08, 2024, 09:03:00 AMMasterclass in appropriate poster placing?
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GKmQqTZX0AAAagR?format=jpg&name=large
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Is this new Barbenheimer ?
Quote from: 𝔗𝔥𝔢 𝔈𝔦𝔤𝔥𝔱𝔥 𝔓𝔞𝔰𝔰𝔢𝔫𝔤𝔢𝔯 on Apr 08, 2024, 09:03:00 AMMasterclass in appropriate poster placing?
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GKmQqTZX0AAAagR?format=jpg&name=large
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So my guess for CinemaCon would be the press will be shown an extended clip from the film behind doors on 11 April. Then on 26 April the clip will be released with the 45th anniversary screenings of Alien as well as online in celebration of Alien day.
This is hilarious :laugh:
Quote from: 𝔗𝔥𝔢 𝔈𝔦𝔤𝔥𝔱𝔥 𝔓𝔞𝔰𝔰𝔢𝔫𝔤𝔢𝔯 on Apr 08, 2024, 09:03:00 AMMasterclass in appropriate poster placing?
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GKmQqTZX0AAAagR?format=jpg&name=large
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So my guess for CinemaCon would be the press will be shown an extended clip from the film behind doors on 11 April. Then on 26 April the clip will be released with the 45th anniversary screenings of Alien as well as online in celebration of Alien day.
You know a Alien fan dd that. XD
https://twitter.com/ERCboxoffice/status/1777790247709151306
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https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GKmQqTZX0AAAagR?format=jpg&name=large
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It tickles me to just now realize there was a litter box somewhere on the Nostromo for Jonesy, maybe even one of those fancy self-cleaning ones 8)
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Can't really determine if this is legit?
https://twitter.com/culkykyle450/status/1777901316385440146?s=46 (https://twitter.com/culkykyle450/status/1777901316385440146?s=46)
Probs not but thought it was worth a share nonetheless
Looks weird.
Looks like the real thing to me.
I like it, is that a skull I see?
Quote from: hamilton_milo on Apr 10, 2024, 01:16:00 PMhttps://pbs.twimg.com/media/GKxf0xlb0AAUC9a?format=jpg&name=small
Can't really determine if this is legit?
https://twitter.com/culkykyle450/status/1777901316385440146?s=46 (https://twitter.com/culkykyle450/status/1777901316385440146?s=46)
Probs not but thought it was worth a share nonetheless
Look at that smile! Adorable!
Looks more like a Praetomorph than the typical Xenomorph.
(https://www.indiewire.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/05/ac_162_00525767.jpg)
That's member
@-Culky-'s post on Twitter. He found them on IMDB from the Romulus page. (https://www.imdb.com/title/tt18412256/?ref_=hm_rvi_tt_i_3) Take a look on desktop and you'll see some ads with the wider crop. The "learn more" button takes you to Fandango for ticket purchases which aren't available yet.
Quote from: Slutty Badger on Apr 10, 2024, 08:32:31 PMLooks more like a Praetomorph than the typical Xenomorph.
It does, but I don't think you should read into what's almost certainly artistic license.
Besides the tendons it absolutely doesn't. It even looks like they're bringing back the tube from the jaw to the neck that's been missing since A3.
Well mouth closed I thought it looked a bit odd, but open I like it.
Better look:
(https://i.imgur.com/FJEFvP6.jpeg)
Quote from: RidgeTop on Apr 10, 2024, 10:02:42 PMBetter look:
https://i.imgur.com/FJEFvP6.jpeg
Not bad, Not bad at all
That's definitely a certain puppet I saw during a visit to an effects studio.
Quote from: Mike's Monsters on Apr 10, 2024, 10:12:07 PMThat's definitely a certain puppet I saw during a visit to an effects studio.
Can you confirm it's the one with the scar ?
Definitely seems biomechanical.
Idk. Looks fleshy to me but maybe I need to up the brightness.
Quote from: BigDaddyJohn on Apr 10, 2024, 10:24:37 PMQuote from: Mike's Monsters on Apr 10, 2024, 10:12:07 PMThat's definitely a certain puppet I saw during a visit to an effects studio.
Can you confirm it's the one with the scar ?
Definitely seems biomechanical.
You can see the scar on the dome peaking out a bit. It's on the right side of the dome.
Quote from: RidgeTop on Apr 10, 2024, 10:02:42 PMBetter look:
https://i.imgur.com/FJEFvP6.jpeg
I dig it. 8)
Fifth spine is back as well below the head.
Cheeks, actual 5th spine, thick shoulder tubes again, actual ribbed wire structures all over the body and head? Liking this a lot. A subtle redesign, original but nothing that doesn't fit in with the human Aliens from 79 and 86. Much better than Covenant's design.
And yes Local, that is a skull you see there.
Obligatory brightening showing the skull beneath the dome and more detailing.
>:(
Teams skull all the way bitches
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Nice if you're team skull. Still happy it's at least from the original.
Giger would love this
Looks pretty biomech to me. Skull is fine as long as it's barely visible
Quote from: Local Trouble on Apr 11, 2024, 02:18:58 AMhttps://media3.giphy.com/media/v1.Y2lkPTc5MGI3NjExdWpuOWJuaHY3Mm1iam5jcmlneXczemh2NzBxMW05dTA3ejZzMGQyayZlcD12MV9pbnRlcm5hbF9naWZfYnlfaWQmY3Q9Zw/P3pS624lFpYj1wkH3S/giphy.gif
We know
Quote from: Local Trouble on Apr 11, 2024, 02:18:58 AMhttps://media3.giphy.com/media/v1.Y2lkPTc5MGI3NjExdWpuOWJuaHY3Mm1iam5jcmlneXczemh2NzBxMW05dTA3ejZzMGQyayZlcD12MV9pbnRlcm5hbF9naWZfYnlfaWQmY3Q9Zw/P3pS624lFpYj1wkH3S/giphy.gif
Sith Lord confirmed! :D
Quote from: Still Collating... on Apr 10, 2024, 11:28:10 PMMuch better than Covenant's design.
You mean David's design?
No.
Quote from: Mike's Monsters on Apr 10, 2024, 10:33:22 PMQuote from: BigDaddyJohn on Apr 10, 2024, 10:24:37 PMQuote from: Mike's Monsters on Apr 10, 2024, 10:12:07 PMThat's definitely a certain puppet I saw during a visit to an effects studio.
Yes I see it on the one with the mouth closed.
Can you confirm it's the one with the scar ?
Definitely seems biomechanical.
You can see the scar on the dome peaking out a bit. It's on the right side of the dome.
Yes I see it on the one with the mouth closed.
https://twitter.com/spyIchika/status/1778354294179455250
Quote from: RidgeTop on Apr 10, 2024, 10:02:42 PMBetter look:
https://i.imgur.com/FJEFvP6.jpeg
Ehh, looks pretty bad.
Far too chunky, far too fleshy. Jaw goes way too far back / deep, shoulders are far too fat and completely the wrong shape, looking more like how they do in the Colonial Marines game. The ribbed pipe from the jaw is going back up the head to the rear, it shouldn't be.
It's either a bad redesign of a generic alien, or if it's supposed to be the Big Chap, they couldn't of screwed it up more if they tried.
This is not Big Chap, Mike confirmed it.
I like the design, looks different but still biomechanical.
Quote from: Genosha175 on Apr 11, 2024, 01:06:41 PMQuote from: RidgeTop on Apr 10, 2024, 10:02:42 PMBetter look:
https://i.imgur.com/FJEFvP6.jpeg
Ehh, looks pretty bad.
Far too chunky, far too fleshy. Jaw goes way too far back / deep, shoulders are far too fat and completely the wrong shape, looking more like how they do in the Colonial Marines game. The ribbed pipe from the jaw is going back up the head to the rear, it shouldn't be.
It's either a bad redesign of a generic alien, or if it's supposed to be the Big Chap, they couldn't of screwed it up more if they tried.
Nah
Quote from: 426Buddy on Apr 11, 2024, 01:30:57 PMI like the design, looks different but still biomechanical.
Quote from: Genosha175 on Apr 11, 2024, 01:06:41 PMQuote from: RidgeTop on Apr 10, 2024, 10:02:42 PMBetter look:
https://i.imgur.com/FJEFvP6.jpeg
Ehh, looks pretty bad.
Far too chunky, far too fleshy. Jaw goes way too far back / deep, shoulders are far too fat and completely the wrong shape, looking more like how they do in the Colonial Marines game. The ribbed pipe from the jaw is going back up the head to the rear, it shouldn't be.
It's either a bad redesign of a generic alien, or if it's supposed to be the Big Chap, they couldn't of screwed it up more if they tried.
Nah
(https://media1.tenor.com/m/MTppvU66_FoAAAAC/predator-handshake.gif)
It's clearly biomechanical, which is great. I'll wait to see the full thing in motion to say more.
It's the most biomechanical stab at the Alien we've seen on screen in literal decades.
Quote from: 426Buddy on Apr 11, 2024, 01:30:57 PMI like the design, looks different but still biomechanical.
Quote from: Genosha175 on Apr 11, 2024, 01:06:41 PMQuote from: RidgeTop on Apr 10, 2024, 10:02:42 PMBetter look:
https://i.imgur.com/FJEFvP6.jpeg
Ehh, looks pretty bad.
Far too chunky, far too fleshy. Jaw goes way too far back / deep, shoulders are far too fat and completely the wrong shape, looking more like how they do in the Colonial Marines game. The ribbed pipe from the jaw is going back up the head to the rear, it shouldn't be.
It's either a bad redesign of a generic alien, or if it's supposed to be the Big Chap, they couldn't of screwed it up more if they tried.
Nah
You're wrong. It's ok. (Not really)
Quote from: Nightmare Asylum on Apr 11, 2024, 02:22:51 PMIt's the most biomechanical stab at the Alien we've seen on screen in literal decades.
It is the most bio mechanical by the looks of it yeah. Doesn't mean it's good though. The rest of the design, shape of the head / face is terrible. Haribo tendons and all.
Hold up, I wouldn't judge the design fully until we've really seen it in motion in the actual movie. I am really liking this design so far though.
The tendons are a bit too much, I agree on that.
I'm very happy with this design!
Yeah I'm reserving judgement until I see it on screen, but so far I'm glad that we're going back to a Big Chap inspired design.
The front view from the end of the teaser trailer especially has me optimistic.
@Mike's Monsters Can you answer one question? Do the jaw tubes feed into the shoulders like the 1979 design? Or into the head like in Alien Isolation instead?
Quote from: Genosha175 on Apr 11, 2024, 02:30:09 PMQuote from: 426Buddy on Apr 11, 2024, 01:30:57 PMI like the design, looks different but still biomechanical.
Quote from: Genosha175 on Apr 11, 2024, 01:06:41 PMQuote from: RidgeTop on Apr 10, 2024, 10:02:42 PMBetter look:
https://i.imgur.com/FJEFvP6.jpeg
Ehh, looks pretty bad.
Far too chunky, far too fleshy. Jaw goes way too far back / deep, shoulders are far too fat and completely the wrong shape, looking more like how they do in the Colonial Marines game. The ribbed pipe from the jaw is going back up the head to the rear, it shouldn't be.
It's either a bad redesign of a generic alien, or if it's supposed to be the Big Chap, they couldn't of screwed it up more if they tried.
Nah
You're wrong. It's ok. (Not really)
Quote from: Nightmare Asylum on Apr 11, 2024, 02:22:51 PMIt's the most biomechanical stab at the Alien we've seen on screen in literal decades.
It is the most bio mechanical by the looks of it yeah. Doesn't mean it's good though. The rest of the design, shape of the head / face is terrible. Haribo tendons and all.
Nah, looks good.
Quote from: BlueMarsalis79 on Apr 11, 2024, 03:24:35 PM@Mike's Monsters
Can you answer one question? Do the jaw tubes feed into the shoulders like the 1979 design? Or into the head like in Alien Isolation instead?
Wish I'd had the time to examine the design more when I had the time, but this is a detail I'm not 100% on. It's dark in the movie and wasn't looking for that stuff on my first viewings either. Can't confirm this one just yet.
Disney's CinemaCon panel starts in a bit under three hours. Bet they show off Romulus footage. I'll probably hold off on reading the report about that, if I can help it. I already know so much as it is - would like to save that for when I can see it myself, especially since, odds are, it'll probably be the same footage (more or less) that is shown at the Alien re-release for Alien Day.
Yeah I expect them to show off some footage at CinemaCon today behind closed doors and then release it online and in theaters on Alien Day.
At this point I'll take any info as long as it's not about
Spoiler
the new alien hybrid and the characters deaths
Waiting new....
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GK64lVuaEAAgBVM?format=jpg&name=large
waiting
Quote from: SiL on Apr 11, 2024, 12:08:05 AMObligatory brightening showing the skull beneath the dome and more detailing.
Oh yeah! I'm loving this!
Can you imagine the new design looking a bit like Stompy? ;D
Stompy looked really good... Except maybe for the digitgrade feet and too lenghty tail.
Quote from: BigDaddyJohn on Apr 12, 2024, 04:01:50 PMStompy looked really good... Except maybe for the digitgrade feet and too lenghty tail.
Stompy was designed with SIZE in mind. at that time a lot of alien games didn't really sell the size of the creature vs the player. So the designers played around a lot with exaggerating some features - digitigrade legs make it taller, longer tail.. etc. there's thought behind all decisions.
the hands are the only real problem for me.
Stompy is the definitive alien drone look.
Minus the legs of course :laugh:
Never had an issue with digitigrade legs myself. Helps break up the "man in suit" effect imo.
I like to see it as that they mimicked humans in a way, besides the first film and the second film showed they could move without it being too obvious, especially the wall jumps.
I have posted a render of plantigrade Stompy before, it does not work frankly, the proportions of his head and shoulders are designed for the digitigrade.
Quote from: Local Trouble on Oct 22, 2023, 02:38:23 AMStompy was in no way a patch on the original. Especially not with that big dumb jaw and permagrin.
I'm torn, cause I think keeping the human legs/form adds to the uncanniness and makes sense as it links it more to the lifeform it came from.
However I do see the benefit of getting rid of the "guy in a suit" effect. As well as the legs making sense for the type of creature it is.
Quote from: Local Trouble on Apr 12, 2024, 11:57:23 PMEspecially not with that big dumb jaw and permagrin.
The mouth/jaw is really the only thing that stops it from being a perfect design for me.
Why not tried to mix in the man in the suit and more natural like?
Quote from: Local Trouble on Apr 12, 2024, 11:57:23 PMQuote from: Local Trouble on Oct 22, 2023, 02:38:23 AMStompy was in no way a patch on the original. Especially not with that big dumb jaw and permagrin.
Ok Mr Wrong Opinion :D
To be fair Big Chap looked like a guy in a suit mostly at the end of the movie when dangling against the Narcissus.
Before that, it was mostly superb work.
Quote from: BigDaddyJohn on Apr 13, 2024, 01:05:58 AMTo be fair Big Chap looked like a guy in a suit mostly at the end of the movie when dangling against the Narcissus.
Before that, it was mostly superb work.
The only impression that I ever got that he was a man in the suit is when he was literally outside of the spatial, and he went back dangling.
Quote from: BigDaddyJohn on Apr 13, 2024, 01:05:58 AMTo be fair Big Chap looked like a guy in a suit mostly at the end of the movie when dangling against the Narcissus.
Before that, it was mostly superb work.
True, but I think a lot of that came from them being like "oh it looks like a dude in a suit" and shooting it in a very specific and mostly minimal way, to avoid that effect. A lot of which involves brief and close-up glimpses, and not really showing it in much full range of motion. It works masterfully tho, don't get me wrong! In the hands of a lesser director it would have definitely made it feel like a dude in a rubber suit running around, like so much sci-fi/horror of it's time and before it.
https://twitter.com/wyliecovfx/status/1778789898646122859
Quote from: Local Trouble on Apr 12, 2024, 11:57:23 PMQuote from: Local Trouble on Oct 22, 2023, 02:38:23 AMStompy was in no way a patch on the original. Especially not with that big dumb jaw and permagrin.
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Yesterday I watched Alex Garland's Civil War. It was great movie overall, but one thing get me more exited for Romulus. Because Cailee Spaeny is starring in it and she gave great performance. Now I'm more assured that her having lead role in Alien was good choice.
Quote from: 426Buddy on Apr 12, 2024, 11:44:38 PMNever had an issue with digitigrade legs myself. Helps break up the "man in suit" effect imo.
it looks more like every other '80s and '90s creature with them. Like being an alien is what it's about but having some of those human elements still there as part of the body horror
Quote from: razeak on Apr 13, 2024, 08:25:32 PMQuote from: 426Buddy on Apr 12, 2024, 11:44:38 PMNever had an issue with digitigrade legs myself. Helps break up the "man in suit" effect imo.
it looks more like every other '80s and '90s creature with them. Like being an alien is what it's about but having some of those human elements still there as part of the body horror
Exactly. Save the digitigrade legs for the ones that come out of hosts that actually have digitigrade legs. Human host means human legs.
How about we do both, As much as I love alien isolations design, I do understand it looking too alien, but I'm on the side that the Ending to alien kind of Took away of the terror The alien look since it kind of just looks like a man in the suit. However, we mix in the 2 What a good execution, We can have the best of both worlds
Quote from: Local Trouble on Apr 13, 2024, 08:46:06 PMQuote from: razeak on Apr 13, 2024, 08:25:32 PMQuote from: 426Buddy on Apr 12, 2024, 11:44:38 PMNever had an issue with digitigrade legs myself. Helps break up the "man in suit" effect imo.
it looks more like every other '80s and '90s creature with them. Like being an alien is what it's about but having some of those human elements still there as part of the body horror
Exactly. Save the digitigrade legs for the ones that come out of hosts that actually have digitigrade legs. Human host means human legs.
Broadly this, although I'm fine with even human born ones having them sometimes if it looks neat.
Plantigrade is the way.
How about the humans aliens have digital feet but they are not as pronounced as the dog alien. We can work this out with both :)
Humanoid lakes that can snap and contort into digitigrade legs (same principle can be applied to similar contortion of any other part of the body as well, really) in order for the Alien to squeeze/maneuver into specific places it otherwise couldn't normally get into.
Quote from: Thatguy2068 on Apr 12, 2024, 10:30:26 PMStompy is the definitive alien drone look.
Big Chap all the way. Stompy looks a little goofy tbh
Quote from: Local Trouble on Apr 13, 2024, 08:46:06 PMQuote from: razeak on Apr 13, 2024, 08:25:32 PMQuote from: 426Buddy on Apr 12, 2024, 11:44:38 PMNever had an issue with digitigrade legs myself. Helps break up the "man in suit" effect imo.
it looks more like every other '80s and '90s creature with them. Like being an alien is what it's about but having some of those human elements still there as part of the body horror
Exactly. Save the digitigrade legs for the ones that come out of hosts that actually have digitigrade legs. Human host means human legs.
Spoken like a true skull believer. Human elements all the way.
Quote from: Scott Conover on Apr 14, 2024, 04:50:28 AMQuote from: Thatguy2068 on Apr 12, 2024, 10:30:26 PMStompy is the definitive alien drone look.
Big Chap all the way. Stompy looks a little goofy tbh
Respect to your opinion, even though I don't see stompy as goofy. I'll be honest I did get a little upset with people were preferring plantigrade over digits legs. I think they're cool to have.
They're overdone. Even the Upgrade Predator had them.
Stompy also has issues with its face.
Well, I don't think that they're overdone, but I can see why, they have been used a lot recently.
His face is also blocky and unrefined.
People just can't do Giger right.
The digitigrade legs are just another unwelcome Pumpkinheadification of Giger's design.
Just let me be happy :(
If you wanted peace you shouldn't have declared war.
Can we do a peace treaty?
Quote from: Thatguy2068 on Apr 14, 2024, 05:39:55 AMJust let me be happy :(
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Do you know what? Yeah this is my fault that I did deserve this.
I was being a dick for no reason
For real bro, I'm sorry
Apology accepted.
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Digital legs just looks better in motion. That was the reason why Creative Assembly added them in the first place. Humanoid legs can work if You showing just parts of stationary Alien, like in the first movie. But if its walking it just looks awkward. Especially when we are going for agile, wall climbing Alien. Hell, even in comics humanoid legs often looks weird on some of more dynamic panels.
And I like Stompy's green. Big Chap also had it most of the time. But I would like some scenes with its lips unfurling like in the first movie.
And for all the controversial things they made with Protomorph in Covenant, it had some nice design choices. Its legs's digits could bent and straighten depending on how it was moving. I love short shots when its walking straight on two legs.
Kilian Plunkett Aliens are possibly the best Aliens. Certainly the best ones after the Giger hands-on stuff, if you want to argue.
Quote from: [cancerblack] on Apr 14, 2024, 06:52:57 AMKilian Plunkett Aliens are possibly the best Aliens. Certainly the best ones after the Giger hands-on stuff, if you want to argue.
I kinda think they were the inspiration for the stompy
Quote from: Thatguy2068 on Apr 14, 2024, 05:52:03 AMDo you know what? Yeah this is my fault that I did deserve this.
I was being a dick for no reason
For real bro, I'm sorry
No need to be sorry, all in good fun!
Quote from: SiL on Apr 14, 2024, 07:07:58 AMQuote from: Thatguy2068 on Apr 14, 2024, 05:52:03 AMDo you know what? Yeah this is my fault that I did deserve this.
I was being a dick for no reason
For real bro, I'm sorry
No need to be sorry, all in good fun!
Oh thanks god
Quote from: [cancerblack] on Apr 14, 2024, 06:52:57 AMKilian Plunkett Aliens are possibly the best Aliens. Certainly the best ones after the Giger hands-on stuff, if you want to argue.
Still not a fan of the long feet but otherwise yes.
Doug Wheatley's Aliens from Destroying Angels are also great. And he actually made original Big Chap with humanoid legs and all work in dynamic poses in Thicker Than Blood.
They're just the AR Aliens with less gloss in Destroying Angels.
Re-watching some stompy's stills, it's true that he has some kind of permagrin like someone here mentioned before.
Quote from: SiL on Apr 14, 2024, 09:22:19 AMThey're just the AR Aliens with less gloss in Destroying Angels.
Yeah, they have much elements of Ressurection ones, maybe too much, but I wouldn't say they are exactly the same. It's a bit of a blend of classic and Ressurection designs.
Quote from: jacobo1122 on Apr 14, 2024, 09:29:02 AMQuote from: SiL on Apr 14, 2024, 09:22:19 AMThey're just the AR Aliens with less gloss in Destroying Angels.
Yeah, they have much elements of Ressurection ones, maybe too much, but I wouldn't say they are exactly the same. It's a bit of a blend of classic and Ressurection designs.
Some of the closeups are of the original design, but in most panels they're just the AR Aliens. Shoulders are a little less fleshy but that's it.
AR aliens also roared way too much, like wtf is that ?
Honestly the roaring kind of grew on me over the last 23 years.
Do you not mean twenty six?
Quote from: BlueMarsalis79 on Apr 14, 2024, 10:44:24 AMDo you not mean twenty six?
I saw the film for the first time 23 years ago.
Actually 22.
The film itself came out 27 years ago.
Not yet! If I am not twenty seven until July then Alien Resurrection will not be twenty seven until November.
I'm not quite so pedantic.
Quote from: [cancerblack] on Apr 14, 2024, 06:52:57 AMKilian Plunkett Aliens are possibly the best Aliens. Certainly the best ones after the Giger hands-on stuff, if you want to argue.
Yes
I'm hoping Romulus brings back some of the creature sounds from Aliens, like the ones used in the teaser.
They also used a lot of Aliens sounds in the teaser, which is nice.
Quote from: BigDaddyJohn on Apr 14, 2024, 11:40:02 AMThey also used a lot of Aliens sounds in the teaser, which is nice.
Yeah, I recognized the "dying Chestburster" sound that was also used in
Alien Trilogy.
Quote from: 426Buddy on Apr 14, 2024, 11:11:09 AMI'm hoping Romulus brings back some of the creature sounds from Alien, like the ones used in the teaser.
I'm hoping they don't roar. I watched Resurrection for the first time in ages the other day and it put me off. Keeping it closer to the first movie's sounds would be my preference.
Amen to that. To hell with the roaring ;D
Quote from: jacobo1122 on Apr 14, 2024, 09:07:03 AMDoug Wheatley's Aliens from Destroying Angels are also great. And he actually made original Big Chap with humanoid legs and all work in dynamic poses in Thicker Than Blood.
Destroying Angels had the Resurrection Aliens, not the Big Chap.
Quote from: 426Buddy on Apr 14, 2024, 11:11:09 AMI'm hoping Romulus brings back some of the creature sounds from Alien, like the ones used in the teaser.
There were a lot of classic sounds from all of the films in the rough cut. Could have easily been placeholder sounds though too.
Quote from: chromhart on Apr 14, 2024, 05:45:45 PMQuote from: jacobo1122 on Apr 14, 2024, 09:07:03 AMDoug Wheatley's Aliens from Destroying Angels are also great. And he actually made original Big Chap with humanoid legs and all work in dynamic poses in Thicker Than Blood.
Destroying Angels had the Resurrection Aliens, not the Big Chap.
Yes, Big Chap was in Thicker Than Blood, with art also made by Wheathley, as I said :)
Quote from: [cancerblack] on Apr 14, 2024, 06:52:57 AMKilian Plunkett Aliens are possibly the best Aliens. Certainly the best ones after the Giger hands-on stuff, if you want to argue.
Amen!
Quote from: Hatemorph on Apr 14, 2024, 09:57:27 PMQuote from: [cancerblack] on Apr 14, 2024, 06:52:57 AMKilian Plunkett Aliens are possibly the best Aliens. Certainly the best ones after the Giger hands-on stuff, if you want to argue.
Amen!
I'm going to have to add Tristan Jones' Aliens into this list.
Quote from: Sabres21768 on Apr 15, 2024, 01:04:05 AMQuote from: Hatemorph on Apr 14, 2024, 09:57:27 PMQuote from: [cancerblack] on Apr 14, 2024, 06:52:57 AMKilian Plunkett Aliens are possibly the best Aliens. Certainly the best ones after the Giger hands-on stuff, if you want to argue.
Amen!
I'm going to have to add Tristan Jones' Aliens into this list.
Isn't it just like drawings of Stompy
Tristan does excellent alien art.
Tristan's Aliens are too Stompy for me.
That's because they are Stompy, that's his primary reference model.
On Romulus I can not wait to finally see an Alien being a threat after all this time and being the focus.
Even as far back as Resurrection they ended up taking a backseat to the Newborn by the end, whilst being undermined by a super human the rest of the time and in Alien Covenant are treated as entirely routine.
Quote from: BlueMarsalis79 on Apr 15, 2024, 03:32:19 AMOn Romulus I can not wait to finally see an Alien being a threat after all this time and being the focus.
Even as far back as Resurrection they ended up taking a backseat to the Newborn by the end,
Spoiler
No, there's a new mutant big bad at the end.
Quote from: SiL on Mar 20, 2024, 10:56:26 AMWhich is why Romulus is giving shitty midquel vibes.
I cannot wait to see whole new design for Alien. I Hope it would have many little changes so people could complain about them :) But really, I like that every movie has different designs, even if some od them are not to my liking. It keeps things fresh. That's why first AvP is especially underwhelming in that regard, basicly using Ressurection Aliens. From what little we have seen, I have a feeling that Romulus one will be a cross between Protomorph and original. It seems skinny in teaser, though it's hard to say, it was pretty much only a head.
The fact that we don't know if
Spoiler
there's more than one active regular xeno surprises me TBH.
I thought by now it would have been confirmed if that's the case or not.
Yeah it's kind of strange the test screenings have provided some major plot spoilers, but nothing in terms of deaths, how many xenos etc...
Spoiler
Or whether Big Chap is alive and running around in the film.
Quote from: SiL on Apr 15, 2024, 02:48:52 AMTristan's Aliens are too Stompy for me.
Regardless, his work is fantastic.
(https://i.imgur.com/PLUWpVH.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/jAwmyII.jpg)
Regarding Stompy, even if the design doesn't match Gigers original work, its still be best Alien design since the 3rd movie and better than anything seen in any other video game. There is a lot to appreciate about stompy's design.
That's a low bar to clear.
Nah
Bloody purists >:(
Just the amount of detailing he puts in his Aliens is mindblowing
Quote from: Local Trouble on Apr 14, 2024, 05:31:55 AMThe digitigrade legs are just another unwelcome Pumpkinheadification of Giger's design.
yes like those atrocious hands. Ugh. Especially the hands.
Yeah I forgot about the hands. Original hands are the best for me.
Not sure if this has been posted yet?
SPOILER ALERT:
I NEED LEAKED PICS!
Quote from: 𝔗𝔥𝔢 𝔈𝔦𝔤𝔥𝔱𝔥 𝔓𝔞𝔰𝔰𝔢𝔫𝔤𝔢𝔯 on Apr 15, 2024, 07:08:42 PMNot sure if this has been posted yet?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QGrF8tWx6rk
It hasn't. I watched till 1min30, after that it's gets too much spoilery for my taste.
Quote from: BigDaddyJohn on Apr 15, 2024, 07:58:36 PMQuote from: 𝔗𝔥𝔢 𝔈𝔦𝔤𝔥𝔱𝔥 𝔓𝔞𝔰𝔰𝔢𝔫𝔤𝔢𝔯 on Apr 15, 2024, 07:08:42 PMNot sure if this has been posted yet?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QGrF8tWx6rk
It hasn't. I watched till 1min30, after that it's gets too much spoilery for my taste.
I'll post a spoiler alert in that post, thanks.
Quote from: Kradan on Apr 15, 2024, 12:47:17 PMBloody purists >:(
Just the amount of detailing he puts in his Aliens is mindblowing
The art is good, no doubt.
But saying the design is the best since
Alien 3 is a very low bar to clear.
Quote from: 426Buddy on Apr 15, 2024, 12:00:05 PMQuote from: SiL on Apr 15, 2024, 02:48:52 AMTristan's Aliens are too Stompy for me.
Regardless, his work is fantastic.
https://i.imgur.com/PLUWpVH.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/jAwmyII.jpg
Regarding Stompy, even if the design doesn't match Gigers original work, its still be best Alien design since the 3rd movie and better than anything seen in any other video game. There is a lot to appreciate about stompy's design.
Spoiler
I believe it is the single best design in this franchise, but I don't wanna start a flame war again so I'll just shut the f**k up about it.
There was no flame war. Nothing is so serious.
Quote from: SiL on Apr 15, 2024, 08:17:10 PMThere was no flame war. Nothing is so serious.
I hope you're right bubby. The only person taking it seriously is probably me. I said this over and over again, but I just take things so seriously
Quote from: SiL on Apr 15, 2024, 03:38:25 AMQuote from: BlueMarsalis79 on Apr 15, 2024, 03:32:19 AMOn Romulus I can not wait to finally see an Alien being a threat after all this time and being the focus.
Even as far back as Resurrection they ended up taking a backseat to the Newborn by the end,
Spoiler
No, there's a new mutant big bad at the end.
I did not know this truthfully, but I anticipated something like it because of the title-
Spoiler
but I reckon in terms of visuals it will just be a new Alien design, considering all the history on it, an amalgamation of the successful others from the franchise history. (Particularly Alien/s/³)
If so I am not bothered, I still consider that, a proper regular Alien.
Quote from: BlueMarsalis79 on Apr 15, 2024, 08:38:53 PMQuote from: SiL on Apr 15, 2024, 03:38:25 AMQuote from: BlueMarsalis79 on Apr 15, 2024, 03:32:19 AMOn Romulus I can not wait to finally see an Alien being a threat after all this time and being the focus.
Even as far back as Resurrection they ended up taking a backseat to the Newborn by the end,
Spoiler
No, there's a new mutant big bad at the end.
I did not know this truthfully, but I anticipated something like it because of the title- Spoiler
but I reckon in terms of visuals it will just be a new Alien design, considering all the history on it, an amalgamation of the successful others from the franchise history. (Particularly Alien/s/³)
Spoiler
It's a fleshy hybrid with a more human face, according to leaks.
Oh great. I really should not have read that then.
Spoiler
Newborn 2.0
Quote from: BlueMarsalis79 on Apr 15, 2024, 08:48:46 PMOh great. I really should not have read that then.
Spoiler
Newborn 2.0
Spoiler
Maybe it'll be better than it sounds ... :(
Quote from: SiL on Apr 15, 2024, 09:01:14 PMQuote from: BlueMarsalis79 on Apr 15, 2024, 08:48:46 PMOh great. I really should not have read that then.
Spoiler
Newborn 2.0
Spoiler
Maybe it'll be better than it sounds ... :(
Spoiler
Blue is huffing copium right now but made a good point I'm taking heart from - relating to the fact that only "face", not "eyes" have been mentioned. We've seen that somewhere before...
Spoiler
It's like Fede is trying to combine all 4 films with the ultimate goal of doing AR justice lol.
Positive waves, crossing fingers my stupid story alarms are malfunctioning.
I have the bad habit of clicking on spoilers stuff and read the first words. I kinda wanna punch myself, but doing boxing for a decade I would probably regret that.
Quote from: BigDaddyJohn on Apr 15, 2024, 10:16:44 PMI have the bad habit of clicking on spoilers stuff and read the first words. I kinda wanna punch myself, but doing boxing for a decade I would probably regret that.
same but I've been doing better by trying to not clicking on it.
Thank you all for hiding your spoilers tho. Genuinely appreciate it.
Sometimes I get tempted to click lol, but I'm holding strong until the movie comes out
Quote from: Cosmic Incubation on Apr 15, 2024, 10:59:35 PMThank you all for hiding your spoilers tho. Genuinely appreciate it.
Sometimes I get tempted to click lol, but I'm holding strong until the movie comes out
Continue to be strong, brother
Quote from: SiL on Apr 15, 2024, 08:40:04 PMQuote from: BlueMarsalis79 on Apr 15, 2024, 08:38:53 PMQuote from: SiL on Apr 15, 2024, 03:38:25 AMQuote from: BlueMarsalis79 on Apr 15, 2024, 03:32:19 AMOn Romulus I can not wait to finally see an Alien being a threat after all this time and being the focus.
Even as far back as Resurrection they ended up taking a backseat to the Newborn by the end,
Spoiler
No, there's a new mutant big bad at the end.
I did not know this truthfully, but I anticipated something like it because of the title- Spoiler
but I reckon in terms of visuals it will just be a new Alien design, considering all the history on it, an amalgamation of the successful others from the franchise history. (Particularly Alien/s/³)
Spoiler
It's a fleshy hybrid with a more human face, according to leaks.
They never learn..
Quote from: Cosmic Incubation on Apr 15, 2024, 10:59:35 PMThank you all for hiding your spoilers tho. Genuinely appreciate it.
Sometimes I get tempted to click lol, but I'm holding strong until the movie comes out
Amen to all of this. I think I have an idea on some of the broad strokes and set up, which I'm ok with as it's kind of impossible to avoid if you exist in fandom, but have managed to stay largely unspoiled on everything else.
I certainly won't be seeking out this Comic Com footage either if it's released on Alien Day. The backburster scene released on it in 2017 well and truly screwed Covenant's pooch / neomorph for me!
Quote from: SiL on Apr 15, 2024, 08:40:04 PMQuote from: BlueMarsalis79 on Apr 15, 2024, 08:38:53 PMQuote from: SiL on Apr 15, 2024, 03:38:25 AMQuote from: BlueMarsalis79 on Apr 15, 2024, 03:32:19 AMOn Romulus I can not wait to finally see an Alien being a threat after all this time and being the focus.
Even as far back as Resurrection they ended up taking a backseat to the Newborn by the end,
Spoiler
No, there's a new mutant big bad at the end.
I did not know this truthfully, but I anticipated something like it because of the title- Spoiler
but I reckon in terms of visuals it will just be a new Alien design, considering all the history on it, an amalgamation of the successful others from the franchise history. (Particularly Alien/s/³)
Spoiler
It's a fleshy hybrid with a more human face, according to leaks.
If it's true, I am all in.
Spoiler
I'm ready for new, even more beautiful butterfly.
Hoping it is a reverse Billy Idol situation.
Spoiler
A face without eyes.
(https://i0.wp.com/bloody-disgusting.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/08/alien3eroticdesign6.jpg?w=800&ssl=1)
The Kubrick anecdote is hilarious :laugh:
Quote from: BigDaddyJohn on Apr 17, 2024, 03:40:19 PMThe Kubrick anecdote is hilarious :laugh:
Ok, I got it, thank you
*hangs up*Also, Ridley Scott getting a call from Stanley Kubrick sounds like a boy's dream come true
Yeah definitely Romy already rocks, on a quantum level or something👁⚛️👁👉👈
So looks like there's no UK alien 45th anniversary screenings with the Romulus preview?! Wtaf
Quote from: via JoBloSpaeny told CinePOP, "I don't think I can say much, but I already delivered something, so I'll just repeat it. It takes place between Alien and Aliens, in terms of plot and chronology. But we have an incredible cast, some new faces. The Facehuggers are there. You will get everything you want from the film. Fede Alvarez is an incredible director who has so much respect for this franchise and this world. He knows everything about the Alien franchise like the back of his hand. All Alien fans will have everything they want."
https://twitter.com/joblocom/status/1782412181478486170
(https://media0.giphy.com/media/v1.Y2lkPTc5MGI3NjExazFkOWZ3dTdjOXVwcG8wbWd2ZnRldWZzcGVhdGZuOTRhbGI3Y2tlMCZlcD12MV9pbnRlcm5hbF9naWZfYnlfaWQmY3Q9Zw/F8YLm9yiNLWOMJVKUs/source.gif)
Fans sometimes want questionable things.
"All Alien fans will have everything they want".
Really? So this movie is gonna close off the prequels, and finally give us some closure on the fate of the Covenant and David's story?
Just sayin'. 'Cause if Romulus don't have that, then you can't really make that statement.
It's been said before, and I'll say it now - if someone claims "shit be bangin'", then I expect to hear some f**kin' drums.
Quote from: BigDaddyJohn on Apr 22, 2024, 03:20:15 PMFans sometimes want questionable things.
Aye!😍👉👈 I love the prequels and the implications behind!!!
(https://i.ibb.co/n3vfhcQ/Screenshot-20240422-115322-Chrome.jpg)
(https://s9.gifyu.com/images/SZr7E.gif)
New interview with Isabela Merced: https://collider.com/alien-romulus-xenomorphs-isabela-merced/
Quote"The team at Legacy really helped us out with it. I was surrounded by pros. The interesting thing is that it was set up for streaming until the middle of filming. Because Fede Alvarez is the nerdy fan that he is of Alien , he really was vouching for this movie. He actually cut the teaser trailer himself, which is very rare. Usually, studios handle that. So, I think it was an absolute honor. I learned so much. Shout out to the crew in Budapest. They were amazing. They were top tier, for sure."
Quote"The detail is incredible. I like the Xeno nails. That's my favorite part, the chrome nails. I'm gonna get chrome nails for the premiere. You'll see me with them all around. They were incredible."
Quote"Yeah. I watched a ton of fan reactions to the teaser trailer and a lot of people were saying that it reminds them of Alien: Isolation if it were a movie, because it's a game. So, I would say it's very claustrophobic, it's very dark, and it's very authentic to the first one. A lot of respect is paid and due to the original. You're in for a familiar feeling of loyalty and care for this crew of people. On the upside, we do genuinely care for each other and we've stayed in touch and we're really important to each other."
WHAT HAPPENED TO TEE? Find out in Alien: Romulus!
(https://d.ibtimes.co.uk/en/full/1608160/danny-mcbride-alien-covenant.jpg?w=1600&h=1200&q=88&f=549bb237abc58c3021bf932fb45640b0)
Hopefully!
Also, dunno if this has been posted here before, but natty poster.
(https://static1.colliderimages.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2024/01/alien-romulus-poster.jpg?q=70&fit=crop&w=400&dpr=1)
That's a fan poster using the Fortnite Alien render.
I hope they debut a new official poster soon
I'm kind of dreading the next poster, to be perfectly honest. With the teaser poster is out of the way, we're due for the shoddily Photoshopped floating heads main poster next.
(https://oddstudio.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/11/tess-hero-shot-1.jpg)
I'm somewhat optimistic that we wont get that treatment, but that trend is lame and common for sure.
Quote from: Nightmare Asylum on Apr 22, 2024, 04:37:08 PMI'm kind of dreading the next poster, to be perfectly honest. With the teaser poster is out of the way, we're due for the shoddily Photoshopped floating heads main poster next.
Ah yes, floating head syndrome.
(https://static.tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pub/images/fifth_element_poster1.jpg)
I would kill for another film like The Fifth Element.
Quote from: BlueMarsalis79 on Apr 22, 2024, 06:01:58 PMI would kill for another film like The Fifth Element.
Here's hoping that Sydney Sweeney-produced/starring
Barbarella reboot hits the right notes.
Love that movie. The Mondoshawans are like steampunk biomechanoids. 8)
(https://i.ibb.co/C9r63hF/48611113512-4e6b269e00-c.jpg)
Plus, it's Ian Holm on a ship with a man named Dallas.
You can't lose!
Curious what they have to reveal potentially on Alien Day this Friday, it could either be something neat or falls short of expectations, they should have something decent to show that day.
Quote from: XENOMORPHOSIS on Apr 22, 2024, 07:10:59 PMit could either be something neat or falls short of expectations
Who's guessing it's the latter? Taking on bets!
We're getting the theatrical release (in North America) of Alien, plus the Ridley & Fede chat (and MAYBE a Romulus clip as part of that?).
I'm sure there'll be some merch stuff, maybe a new book or comic reveal, but beyond that I'm not sure what to expect. I'd be kind of shocked if we get a new trailer or something along those lines at this point, unless it's a simultaneous online release of whatever is going to be shown in the theater.
Could get a pic from the set of Hawley's show, like how we got a pic from the Romulus set last year.
Quote from: Slutty Badger on Apr 22, 2024, 07:16:52 PMQuote from: XENOMORPHOSIS on Apr 22, 2024, 07:10:59 PMit could either be something neat or falls short of expectations
Who's guessing it's the latter? Taking on bets!
How about(https://s12.gifyu.com/images/SZrRw.gif)a preview of the final trailer + behind-the-scenes footage!!!(https://s12.gifyu.com/images/SZrRH.gif)🙏
(https://s12.gifyu.com/images/SZrRB.gif)
Wasn't the sneak peek supposed to be released publicly for Alien day ?
I wonder if there will be an exclusive clip with Alien in the theaters and then release a public clip for Alien day?
It would be superb 8)👉👈 Fingers crossed!
(https://s12.gifyu.com/images/SZrV3.gif)🤞
Quote from: Nightmare Asylum on Apr 22, 2024, 07:20:13 PMCould get a pic from the set of Hawley's show, like how we got a pic from the Romulus set last year.
We definitely need news about the show!
:'(👎
@ Immortan Jonsey that'd be neat to see something whether it's further releases of concept art, set photos, a teaser promo however it's doubtful to be presented with anything elaborate anytime soon.
I get this impression that the studios Disney/20th Century Studios, FX, ScottFree etc the financiers of the Alien TV show probably have tight restrictions on behind the scenes material making their way to the presses or online leaks (though the one example of concept art leaking is an exception)
It's the likely case they're not going to start promoting the TV show until middle of 2025 for its inevitable release, but it'd be great to be teased with something while we wait.
I wonder if Aliens Colonial Marines failing helped kill Blomkamp's Alien 5.
Quote from: Slutty Badger on Apr 22, 2024, 07:16:52 PMQuote from: XENOMORPHOSIS on Apr 22, 2024, 07:10:59 PMit could either be something neat or falls short of expectations
Who's guessing it's the latter? Taking on bets!
My only expectation is mediocrity just to be on the safe side.
Can't fall short of expectations if you have no expectations!
You should get your hopes up. I want to see how that goes.
Quote from: SiL on Apr 23, 2024, 07:06:35 AMCan't fall short of expectations if you have no expectations!
Also valid
Quote from: Local Trouble on Apr 23, 2024, 07:15:58 AMYou should get your hopes up. I want to see how that goes.
It's too late for that.
Quote from: bob on Apr 23, 2024, 06:30:17 AMI wonder if Aliens Colonial Marines failing helped kill Blomkamp's Alien 5.
Eh I think ACM ultimately killed itself and probably affected Alien Isolation rather than Blomkamp's thing.
So if I understand things correctly, the famous sneak peek won't be released for Alien day then ?
I imagine any new trailer will be made public but the sneak peak will be cinema exclusive.
Quote from: BigDaddyJohn on Apr 22, 2024, 08:18:55 PMWasn't the sneak peek supposed to be released publicly for Alien day ?
That's just speculation.
It would be best if they released it online as well, otherwise there will be lots of dodgy phone bootlegs on Youtube. Not a good look.
Full length trailer or nothing!
Yeah I prepare myself to be a bit disappointed then.
I just saw on Twitter that there will also be a 9-10 minute clip attached to the new Planet of the Apes film.
Quote from: ASH1977 on Apr 23, 2024, 12:36:26 PMI just saw on Twitter that there will also be a 9-10 minute clip attached to the new Planet of the Apes film.
This one? I wonder who their source is though?
https://twitter.com/5150Aamrit/status/1782692156370796614
Annnnnd here we already come, to the point where they're gonna be showing off way too much in advance of the film's release.
Spoil me! ;D
I was about to say, 9-10 min is huuuuge
I have my tickets for Alien for Saturday.
Looking forward to seeing what clip gets shown.
Yeah 10 minutes is a little crazy, we really only need a proper trailer between now and August and I'm fine. I hope they don't show everything the film has between now and then.
I would imagine the 10 mins includes the chat with Fede and Ridley.
Quote from: TheBATMAN on Apr 23, 2024, 02:41:56 PMI would imagine the 10 mins includes the chat with Fede and Ridley.
That chat seems more specific to
Alien than
Alien: Romulus, so I don't see much of a point in attaching it to
Kingdom of the Planet of the Apes.
Maybe two sneak peek with interviews of the cast of Romulus in between.
I don't think anyone had any doubts about authenticity to the franchise. To be authentic just means "facehugger- check, ova morph-check, chestburster-check, xenomorph- check" and its AVP all over again just with less of anything new. I think the only way we could at least be acknowledging is "new and improved- checked" which speaks a whole lot more than ...."xenomorphs all over again routinely"
I remember in 2017 for alien day, they showed Prometheus and then Alien at my local Odeon. Between the two films was Ridley Scott talking about the up and coming Covenant. They then showed two scenes, the descent down to the planet in the lander and then the back burster scene. Was about 10 minutes . Guess it will be similar for this.
The 9-10 minutes for Romulus could be like Prometheus, and the kids on the ship headed to Space Station, gazing out at the desolate, dark station, docking up to it and opening the doors to see inside.
The preview scenes and montage sound like they'd easily cover ten minutes.
Now I'm afraid they'll show a bit too much... While wanting them to show something :laugh:
I believe Freddy would cut something as to not give anything really up. He cut his own trailer, which is something more directors don't get to do.
Quote from: ASH1977 on Apr 24, 2024, 04:33:36 PMI believe Freddy would cut something as to not give anything really up. He cut his own trailer, which is something more directors don't get to do.
Who the hell is Freddy?
Quote from: Slutty Badger on Apr 24, 2024, 05:24:45 PMQuote from: ASH1977 on Apr 24, 2024, 04:33:36 PMI believe Freddy would cut something as to not give anything really up. He cut his own trailer, which is something more directors don't get to do.
Who the hell is Freddy?
Spoiler
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2i5FbDGbRTs
The funny thing about Fede saying he cut the trailer... we had confirmation that a production house had made it. So maybe he did a rough cut and passed it on to the studio, but he didn't make the whole thing himself. Marketing is funny, it's the same as that "no cgi" talk with films like Top Gun. They used a shit ton of CGI on that film, and they will be with Romulus too, even likely replacing practical effects at times. They're going to have to.
Not sure why they gotta fib a bit to make it sound cooler. Just tell the truth!
What's extra gross right now is the officially released "behind the scenes footage" going around for some movies lately that makes it a point to remove green screens (and any other equivalents for keying purposes) from what's being presented in the frame, as if they were never used.
Yeah, I was completely baffled by the information that they digitally removed the blue screens from the BTS footage and photos of Barbie. The lie that it is all done in camera is a weird one.
Quote from: Mike's Monsters on Apr 24, 2024, 05:46:38 PMThe funny thing about Fede saying he cut the trailer... we had confirmation that a production house had made it. So maybe he did a rough cut and passed it on to the studio, but he didn't make the whole thing himself. Marketing is funny, it's the same as that "no cgi" talk with films like Top Gun. They used a shit ton of CGI on that film, and they will be with Romulus too, even likely replacing practical effects at times. They're going to have to.
Not sure why they gotta fib a bit to make it sound cooler. Just tell the truth!
Yeah that is not the best way to create good will or trust with the audience.
While some folk prefer practical effects (me included), that doesn't mean they are against cgi or consider it a cardinal sin that should be lied about. CGI is fine but it should only be used to do things a practical effect can not. Unfortunately some films use it as a shortcut.
CGI is fine as long as it isn't too obvious like in Covenant.
Quote from: Slutty Badger on Apr 24, 2024, 05:24:45 PMQuote from: ASH1977 on Apr 24, 2024, 04:33:36 PMI believe Freddy would cut something as to not give anything really up. He cut his own trailer, which is something more directors don't get to do.
Who the hell is Freddy?
I meant Fede, not Freddy. Stupid autocorrect.
Tickets booked for 45th screening - is there any confirmation that we are actually getting new footage with this? Or is it just the Ridley/Fede promo?
Either way, Alien on the big screen is always a win
Seems to depend on the screening.
Can confirm, no clips! (Unless you count 4 second of bts b-roll) Just the the Ridley sit down.
New version of the trailer?
Quote from: Scott Conover on Apr 25, 2024, 12:42:17 PMCan confirm, no clips! (Unless you count 4 second of bts b-roll) Just the the Ridley sit down.
I've been to the theater half a dozen times or so since the trailer released online and still haven't gotten to see it at all on the big screen.
Hopefully between Alien, Sasquatch Sunset, and Challengers over the next few days or so I get to see it at least once. They'd be insane to not run it before Alien, at the very least. :laugh:
Quote from: cockroach on Apr 25, 2024, 02:11:40 PMNew version of the trailer? Quote from: Scott Conover on Apr 25, 2024, 12:42:17 PMCan confirm, no clips! (Unless you count 4 second of bts b-roll) Just the the Ridley sit down.
Negative
Mmm it's almost april 26, and things are very calm now.
I'm hoping they don't release footage. Both Prometheus and Covenant did it and my experience for one suffered. If they do, I'm mostly staying away...mostly.
Gotta do something for tomorrow, surely.
Oh shit, it's Alien Day tomorrow ?
2oth Century Studios - Franchise Management Coordinator:
https://twitter.com/KendrickPejoro/status/1783571000384450868
f**king D*sney.
Quote from: 𝔗𝔥𝔢 𝔈𝔦𝔤𝔥𝔱𝔥 𝔓𝔞𝔰𝔰𝔢𝔫𝔤𝔢𝔯 on Apr 25, 2024, 07:05:46 PM2oth Century Studios - Franchise Management Coordinator:
https://twitter.com/KendrickPejoro/status/1783571000384450868
IM TAKING THIS AS WE'RE DEF GETTING A NEW TRAILER TOMORROW!!!! ;D
It be nice to get one...a red band trailer perhaps...but that's wishful thinking.
Quote from: Slutty Badger on Apr 25, 2024, 07:17:54 PMf**king D*sney.
Huh?
Quote from: Bonus Situation on Apr 25, 2024, 04:08:29 PMI'm hoping they don't release footage. Both Prometheus and Covenant did it and my experience for one suffered. If they do, I'm mostly staying away...mostly.
Honestly, I agree. I feel like I saw the best Covenant had to offer weeks before the movie had come out.
I think two trailers and a clip closer to release is all I need.
My big worry is character deaths being spoiled - I feel like the first trailer was already giving slightly too much away.
I agree. Wu's character is already f**ked, no need to show or hint at more deaths please.
Please let this be as good. Weyland Yutani employees Commando (Archie, Spike ...) vs Aliens and maybe Androids (Alien Isolation Aliens Resistance)
Happy Alien Day! ;D
Alien Day seems very......quiet.
Quote from: razeak on Apr 26, 2024, 11:29:22 AMAlien Day seems very......quiet.
Little too quiet.
It's still early.
Well... in the States at latest it isn't even 8AM yet. As early as just before 5AM on the other side of the country.
If anything is going to come out, it'll probably be synced with US time zones, so probably not for a few hours yet at least.
https://twitter.com/AP/status/1783682427665199480
Quote from: Nightmare Asylum on Apr 26, 2024, 11:38:50 AMWell... in the States at latest it isn't even 8AM yet. As early as just before 5AM on the other side of the country.
If anything is going to come out, it'll probably be synced with US time zones, so probably not for a few hours yet at least.
You piddling Yanks and your time zones! 😾
It's nearly 1pm over here, so by that logic we won't be seeing anything until early evening. The 3WE gets shafted again!
It's 10pm. Australia is born to suffer.
Russia,Saint Petersburg 15:00....
Quote from: SiL on Apr 26, 2024, 11:57:22 AMIt's 10pm. Australia is born to suffer.
🥹aye!
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it's started...
https://www.instagram.com/reel/C6OWbcvpFJl/?utm_source=ig_web_copy_link
Fede just posted some bts footage of the Facehugger.
https://www.instagram.com/reel/C6OuXYUxt9N/
https://twitter.com/fedalvar/status/1783886270588219436
Love it.
Yeah 8)
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It looks good.
I would very much like to have that....
Is that unpainted or is it going to be that dark in in the film?
LOL. The facehugger is like an overactive child saying "I don't wanna go home, i want to play some more"
please tell me thats not it?! trailers normally drop 4 or 5pm BST so now a little worried.
Quote from: cockroach on Apr 26, 2024, 04:21:23 PMplease tell me thats not it?! trailers normally drop 4 or 5pm BST so now a little worried.
I'd be incredibly shocked if we saw a trailer. There were never any signs pointing to one, and it has only been a few weeks since the first.
https://twitter.com/Monstermash042/status/1783888151255359727
it's been over a month since the first trailer/teaser.
Might get a longer conversation between Alvarez and Ridley Scott with a little behind the scenes footage.
Hick's has just asked one of the Disney/20th execs to confirm.
What time were the videos for the covenant posted on the day of alien?
https://twitter.com/KendrickPejoro/status/1783899299493061095
Quote from: -Culky- on Apr 26, 2024, 04:30:38 PMit's been over a month since the first trailer/teaser.
I imagine we'll get another trailer late May/early June. Movie isn't out for another 3+ months, would be way too early for a full length trailer so soon after the teaser.
Possibly with Kingdom of the Planet of the Apes. More likely with Furiosa. Thats my guess.
Quote from: MistressTeqila on Apr 26, 2024, 04:48:40 PMWhat time were the videos for the covenant posted on the day of alien?
8pm bst... so may still be hope?
https://comicbook.com/movies/news/alien-covenant-prologue-watch-prometheus-fassbender/
Alien: Covenant was also only a few weeks out from release when Alien Day hit in 2017. There's a much bigger gap than that right now between 4/26 and Romulus' August release date, so I'm not sure that Covenant's marketing strategy can really be used as a reference point here.
I'd been hoping for a proper behind-the-stills shot or featurette or something.
https://www.perfectorganism.com/home/2024/4/26/240-alien-day-designing-alien-romulus-with-artist-nick-stath
I've not listened to yet.
Ok now I want to build myself one of these.
I want one.
Gimme, gimme, gimme.
Maybe we will get something tomorrow. After it's shown in American theaters.
Can't wait for the marketing campaign to flow 8)
Yeah next month is to be expected for a new trailer probably.
someone said on twitter there were no clips shown at todays alien screenings? just the Ridley Scott interview at the beginning. is that true?
Seems to be the case. Just a couple of seconds of behind the scenes shots.
I've talked to a couple people that have already gone today that can confirm the same. Will be seeing for myself tomorrow.
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https://twitter.com/fedalvar/status/1783965848165888098
Great new set pic and a sweet video of practical hugger. I'm pretty satisfied for today, August is still a long ways off.
Fede seems like a great guy.
Quote from: MudButt on Apr 26, 2024, 09:07:15 PMhttps://twitter.com/fedalvar/status/1783965848165888098
White.
Barbed fingers and all.
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No tail spike on this one though.
Quote from: MudButt on Apr 26, 2024, 09:07:15 PMhttps://twitter.com/fedalvar/status/1783965848165888098
Also taken on #AlienDay 2023 like last year. Loving the Nostromo inspired set.
Quote from: BigDaddyJohn on Apr 26, 2024, 09:44:57 PMNo tail spike on this one though.
It's underneath the tail. It's like a little barb/needle. Not visible in this shot.
https://www.facebook.com/share/Noh1tUcYRQgTn48j/
Quote from: Mike's Monsters on Apr 26, 2024, 09:50:05 PMQuote from: BigDaddyJohn on Apr 26, 2024, 09:44:57 PMNo tail spike on this one though.
It's underneath the tail. It's like a little barb/needle. Not visible in this shot.
Ah ok cool ;)
Interesting. It's almost like this image is from the opposite side of the renaissance space station. The "newer" side.
"Isabela Merced Says Alien: Romulus Is Authentic To The First Alien"
Lol, this line is getting old, seems used before every comic, book, game and movie. I'd say the hit rate is about 20%, probably less, but much better as of late I think, loved Aliens: Dark Descent.
Just re-watched the Romulus trailer again, it's so reminiscent of Covenant, with the cliche open the door scream.
Hopefully it pans out. Been calling for a space station Alien setting since....AVP2?
Still loved Covenant and Prometheus.
Nice pet ya got there, Fede
So...no trailer? :'(
Quote from: Nostromo on Apr 27, 2024, 12:10:17 AM"Isabela Merced Says Alien: Romulus Is Authentic To The First Alien"
Lol, this line is getting old, seems used before every comic, book, game and movie. I'd say the hit rate is about 20%, probably less, but much better as of late. I think, loved Aliens: Dark Descent.
Just re-watched the Romulus trailer again, it's so reminiscent of Covenant, with the cliche open the door scream.
Hopefully it pans out. Been calling for a space station Alien setting since....AVP2?
Still loved Covenant and Prometheus.
I reckon reply's like this are all scripted anyway. Prolly some Burke esk agent told her to day that :laugh:
I guess no trailer today...I'm assuming sometime next month.
Quote from: MudButt on Apr 26, 2024, 09:07:15 PMhttps://twitter.com/fedalvar/status/1783965848165888098
Any of you guys have any idea why are they getting rid of the finger nails? That's one trait of the design that it's disturbing and they just get rid of it. Why?
They've replaced them with spikes on the finger pads.
Quote from: SiL on Apr 27, 2024, 06:34:29 AMThey've replaced them with spikes on the finger pads.
So for what I've been reading these Xenos are not pure Xenos from a certain point of view since they were breed from Big Chaps DNA. Therefore Facehuggers and Xenos will be different?
Edit1: I mean I don't want to sound like a purist but I would love to have original deisgns such as Big Chap and facehuggers, I understand that a new movie demands new merchandise for marketing purposes so variants and modifications are needed I just wish that they would have keep or stayed to true to the originals.
No idea. They're different for whatever reason.
Well
Spoiler
Chap is supposed to be in the movie, but damaged apparently. So he probably won't be looking like he did.
Do we think the next trailer will be attached to kingdom of the apes?
Either that or Furiosa, I'd imagine. I'm thinking more likely Furiosa.
That would be neat.
Oh, speaking of trailers, I FINALLY got to see the Romulus trailer on the big screen yesterday. It was the last one that played before Alien.
It was the green band version, with the darkened blood and the Romulus door instead of the Facehugger removal.
Quote from: cockroach on Yesterday at 10:10:54 AMDo we think the next trailer will be attached to kingdom of the apes?
my guess is june tbh
It will likely be attached to the next R rated film by 20th Century Studios sometime in June.
So... Deadpool & Wolverine
I wonder if the reason they aren't using the red band trailer, even for rated R movies, is because the red band doesn't have the TCS and Scott Free logos before it and the green band does.
Quote from: BlueMarsalis79 on Yesterday at 03:01:56 PMIt will likely be attached to the next R rated film by 20th Century Studios sometime in June.
So... Deadpool & Wolverine
I was thinking that myself, but Deadpool and Wolverine comes out late July, about a few weeks before Alien Romulus releases. So with that being said, I think it'll debut sometime in May or June - late July seems too late.
We had that Twitter rumour recently suggesting Romulus footage would be included before Apes.
Quote from: Griffith on Apr 27, 2024, 06:47:12 AMQuote from: SiL on Apr 27, 2024, 06:34:29 AMThey've replaced them with spikes on the finger pads.
So for what I've been reading these Xenos are not pure Xenos from a certain point of view since they were breed from Big Chaps DNA. Therefore Facehuggers and Xenos will be different?
Edit1: I mean I don't want to sound like a purist but I would love to have original deisgns such as Big Chap and facehuggers, I understand that a new movie demands new merchandise for marketing purposes so variants and modifications are needed I just wish that they would have keep or stayed to true to the originals.
I very much prefer the nails. If I were to guess, they probably discussed WHY it seems so difficult to remove one, and honestly that's fair....mostly. If you had a couple of people to grab fingers and uncoil the tail, it shouldn't be too difficult. Assuming it's weight to strength ratio is similar to most Earth creatures.
They probably thought of a way to better explain how they are hard to get off.
I always preferred the idea that facehuggers are inordinately strong for their size beyond the realm of human understanding. The idea of tearing the face off is pretty awesome though, and I imagine we will see that. I would have thrown a barbed schlong in for good measure.
Visually, the nails are awesome.
I imagine with Marichek, the colonists said f**k it and just yanked it off hoping to at least keep another one from being born and got fantastically gory results.
Hmmm......a prequel project suddenly doesn't sound so bad for Hadley's Hope, at least visually.
An appreciation post to this development. Thank you for not dropping an official trailer yet and still keeping things mostly under wrap. I'm actually amazed about how little we know about the film. I feel like this far out I usually know every little detail. I think something good is in the making . And hopefully the official trailer doesn't show anything important
I fear the official trailer's gonna go crazy and show a lot.
Quote from: BigDaddyJohn on Yesterday at 06:46:56 PMI fear the official trailer's gonna go crazy and show a lot.
Seems like Fede is doing everything in his power to not overexpose the film, based on what he has said in the interviews. I remember the covenant footage with the backburster that was able to find online many weeks before the film's release and how I really, really would of rather experienced that first in theatres. Seeing as how I can't hold back from viewing and over-analyzing every morsel of Romulus footage that finds its way to the net, I hope he is successful in protecting us from ourselves.
Backburster shouldn't have been showed in a trailer, that was something new and nasty that I would have prefered discovering in theaters.
Quote from: BigDaddyJohn on Yesterday at 08:07:20 PMBackburster shouldn't have been showed in a trailer, that was something new and nasty that I would have prefered discovering in theaters.
Even worse - they showed the whole sequence. Insane marketing choice. Imagine if in 79 they just released the chestburster scene or the Dallas vent scene weeks before the movie came out.