Quote from: ikarop on Nov 27, 2009, 04:10:45 PM
Interesting preview about some technical aspects:
http://www.pcgameshardware.com/aid,700258/Aliens-vs-Predator-PC-supposed-to-kick-consolesx-ass-at-least-technolgy-wise/News/
interesting indeed, i love the physics comment, im a physics nerd... love watching dead bodies hit the floor with a fud and then roll around and land in random but realistic poses.
It's nice to learn about how things work under the hood. :)
Quote from: Ghost Rider LSOV on Nov 27, 2009, 04:28:21 PM
It's nice to learn about how things work under the hood. :)
yep, thats why PC is my prefered gaming platform, you dont just get to play the game, you get to see how things work with SDK's and tools. gotta love it.
Well I need a new PC :(
Quote from: ikarop on Nov 27, 2009, 04:10:45 PM
Interesting preview about some technical aspects:
http://www.pcgameshardware.com/aid,700258/Aliens-vs-Predator-PC-supposed-to-kick-consolesx-ass-at-least-technolgy-wise/News/
Dedicated servers plus that = some love for PC users, not just a console port.
Quote from: Yutani on Nov 27, 2009, 09:35:38 PM
Quote from: ikarop on Nov 27, 2009, 04:10:45 PM
Interesting preview about some technical aspects:
http://www.pcgameshardware.com/aid,700258/Aliens-vs-Predator-PC-supposed-to-kick-consolesx-ass-at-least-technolgy-wise/News/
Dedicated servers plus that = some love for PC users, not just a console port.
I think after hearing some people say that it is a console port, they had to prove that wrong.
Because they are releasing it for PC also, they don't want to stay behind with the technology. Would be dumb to make a new PC game but not take advantage of the current or latest technology.
Woah, new thread
Quote from: predalien27 on Nov 28, 2009, 10:56:25 PM
Woah, new thread
Woah, forum doing forumy things. Woah.
Don't you think it is a little odd that the one interveiw is in German? Probably for Austria and Sweden.
Previews & Interviews from NovemberSpoiler
- PixelatedGeek (http://pixelatedgeek.com/2009/11/aliens-vs-predator-hands-on-at-eurogamer-expo-london/)
- PS3.Kombo (http://ps3.kombo.com/article.php?artid=11211)
- Britxbox (http://www2.britxbox.co.uk/viewarticle.php?id=3895)
- NowGamer (http://pc-mmo.nowgamer.com/previews/pc-mmo/797/aliens-vs-predator)
- Telegraph.co.uk (http://www.telegraph.co.uk/technology/video-games/6509657/Aliens-vs-Predator-video-game-preview.html)
- PCGZine (http://www.gamerzines.com/downloads/magazines/PCGZine_36.pdf)
- Gamingunion (http://www.gamingunion.net/news/aliens-vs-predator-avp-multiplayer-preview-predator--680.html)
- OXM UK (http://yfrog.com/jdoxmljx)
- PCGZine (http://yfrog.com/j765604391jx)
- PC Zone (http://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/index.php?topic=26915.0)
- GameInformer Podcast (http://media1.gameinformer.com/media/audio/theshow/theshow-ep8.mp3)
- GameProNews (http://gamerpronews.com/games/exclusive-aliens-vs-predator-interview)
- GameStar Magazine (http://yfrog.com/jdgamestarmagazinno012010jx) (German)
- Gameplay Magazine (http://yfrog.com/0k49829034jx) (Russian)
- PCGameshardware (http://www.pcgameshardware.com/aid,700258/Aliens-vs-Predator-PC-supposed-to-kick-consolesx-ass-at-least-technolgy-wise/News/)
Added Micromania (http://yfrog.com/ja48148589jx), Hobby Consolas (http://yfrog.com/e746253553jx) and Xbox360 (Spanish) (http://yfrog.com/ja034igjx) magazine previews. They don't feature new info but a few screens.
A few new screens?
Flamethrower, double back, acid hole.
In one screen you can REALLY see how ridiculous that tail for the Xenos is...
Quote from: Chris!(($$))! on Nov 30, 2009, 06:13:55 AM
A few new screens?
I believe there's a new one on the Micromania/Hobby Consolas previews, also a full size version from an old one in the Xbox magazine. It's kinda more of the same anyway.
Oh well, hopefully they will do something special for Christmas like a demo... We are SO close till February I can almost taste it. Just 3 more months everyone. :)
Quote from: predalien27 on Nov 29, 2009, 12:02:08 AM
Don't you think it is a little odd that the one interveiw is in German? Probably for Austria and Sweden.
Uhm.. we speak SWEDISH in Sweden :P :P
The article describe something like dynamic marine patrolls arround the map, sherching for dead bodies and calling for help if they spot a problem. Also , they talk about blood decals on the walls...a lot of them.
Quote from: Eldritch on Nov 30, 2009, 10:42:31 AM
Quote from: predalien27 on Nov 29, 2009, 12:02:08 AM
Don't you think it is a little odd that the one interveiw is in German? Probably for Austria and Sweden.
Uhm.. we speak SWEDISH in Sweden :P :P
Sorry, I meant Switzerland. :-[
Oh, ok, carry on then ;D
Short interview on IncGamers.com (http://www.incgamers.com/News/19900/rebellion-talks-melee-combat-in-aliens-vs-predator). The full article is coming soon.
"Aliens vs Predator is due for release in February next year, although not in Germany as its censors threatened to refuse to classify the game. Rebellion responded by deciding to avoid the German market, stressing it will not compromise its vision for the game."
VERY glad to hear that, co quality not quantity.. thre not sacrificing anything for more sales. :)
Quote from: ikarop on Dec 01, 2009, 07:00:05 PM
Short interview on IncGamers.com (http://www.incgamers.com/News/19900/rebellion-talks-melee-combat-in-aliens-vs-predator). The full article is coming soon.
Looking forward to the full interview.
/crosses fingers and hopes for a more detailed explanation of the melee balance
so it says the marine can interrupt the grappling by launching a pulse grenade. So, my question: Can a marine save his buddy from being executed by killing the pred/alien mid animation?
Maybe his body..but not his face..lolz. Everything I hear or see about this game is sounding sweet..I really can't wait. I might pre-order it..but dang there is so many games coming out i nthe first quarter..I don't know what to do!!!
Quote from: kvon17 on Dec 02, 2009, 12:08:02 AM
so it says the marine can interrupt the grappling by launching a pulse grenade. So, my question: Can a marine save his buddy from being executed by killing the pred/alien mid animation?
Might be controlled by server/host settings as well. (FF)
At least the Marines arnt completley defenseless up close. But im not excited about getting the graphicaly, dummied down version of AvP. The PC version sounds like its going to be straight bad ass looking, clearly stating the consoles wont look that great. I remember reading a few previews and a lot of peeps said the PS3 version had a lot of texture problems. I want the full sha-bang!
Well, consoles are always sub-par when it comes to PC's because their hardware is not upgradeable. I am sure that if someone runs AvP on XP with DX9, it will look like the console versions. Even the DX10 version should look really nice, with of course the DX11 version looking really slick.
Full interview by IncGamers here (http://www.incgamers.com/Interviews/230/Aliens-vs-Predator-Interview).
QuoteWell, as we have recently announced, we are pleased to be able to support the PC community with dedicated server functionality in the game. As you have mentioned, AvP has a PC heritage so it goes without saying that we take it very seriously as a platform and have no intention of "dumbing down".
Full of Win.
Quote from: ikarop on Dec 02, 2009, 01:19:36 PM
Full interview by IncGamers here (http://www.incgamers.com/Interviews/230/Aliens-vs-Predator-Interview).
You da man ikarop! I do like how Rebellion isnt just porting over this game. They are doing in right, i'll prob get it for all 3 platforms since my good buddy has a bad ass PC. Good article.
It's nice they are giving the PC Tender loving care, but whats with the same questions :S next time i wish they will ask about demo release date and system requirements for PC players.
Quote from: Private W Hudson on Dec 02, 2009, 07:17:08 PM
It's nice they are giving the PC Tender loving care, but whats with the same questions :S next time i wish they will ask about demo release date and system requirements for PC players.
Too early my friend. Besides next thing is way interesting than that!
Quote from: ikarop on Dec 02, 2009, 07:20:48 PM
Quote from: Private W Hudson on Dec 02, 2009, 07:17:08 PM
It's nice they are giving the PC Tender loving care, but whats with the same questions :S next time i wish they will ask about demo release date and system requirements for PC players.
Too early my friend. Besides next thing is way interesting than that!
Dont tell me theres more?? wow, i love it! nice of them to keep giving us new info and media, realy helps pass the time until we get a demo/Release date.
Whats this "next thing" you speak of? :D
Quote from: Private W Hudson on Dec 02, 2009, 07:52:03 PM
Whats this "next thing" you speak of? :D
Just stay tuned to us, you will find out soon.
cant wait!
Incgamers interviews Rebellion (NEW)
http://www.incgamers.com/Interviews/230/Aliens-vs-Predator-Interview
Quote from: Weasel on Dec 02, 2009, 08:42:55 PM
Incgamers interviews Rebellion (NEW)
http://www.incgamers.com/Interviews/230/Aliens-vs-Predator-Interview
Sorry, posted.
Quote from: ikarop on Dec 02, 2009, 07:20:48 PM
Too early my friend. Besides next thing is way interesting than that!
Ikarop, we love you but
you have to stop dragging us along like this. ;D
New to marketing are we?
Don't mock me for my purity and inexperience!
That's kind of my thing.
man they mentioned planet based maps, but no space based maps yet!
Now that I think about it I can't think of a cooler map then the Nostromo in space, all the creepy corridors, and the tunnels, would also be cool seeing the mess hall, and other recognizable rooms from the film.
Same with the Alien 3 prison as in AvP2, but the Nostromo in space would be beyond awesome.. not even sure if a map like that is doable, would be a very hard map for preds no jumping whatsoever.
I personally can't wait to see some footage of a queen.. you know there's gonna be one..
There was such a map in the Alien's campaign in AVP99 where you were in a spaceship like the Nostromo. And there were scripted alarms when you killed more people.
That map was then remade into a multiplayer map by yours truly ;)
Quote from: Eldritch on Dec 03, 2009, 10:40:25 AM
That map was then remade into a multiplayer map by yours truly ;)
Wasn't much into mods back then, but if you do it again, then I will certainly play it. ;D
Quote from: Ghost Rider LSOV on Dec 03, 2009, 09:18:11 AM
There was such a map in the Alien's campaign in AVP99 where you were in a spaceship like the Nostromo. And there were scripted alarms when you killed more people.
Ferrarco.
True. I had forgotten the name. :)
A complete Nostromo map would be sweet!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BuQyLbkAjic
Quote from: affinity on Dec 05, 2009, 01:00:21 AM
A complete Nostromo map would be sweet!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BuQyLbkAjic
Thats a really well made Nostromolevel indeed. I don't think it would be very well suited as a MP-map though. It's just to big, you would never find anybody. Plus marines would have a massive advantage with those loooong corridors. ;)
We do have vents.
TEEERK EER VEEERNTS!!!!
What's Vents, precious?
hopefully there will be a propper jungle map for predator hunt the one they have now isint very jungly btw i am talking about map from euro expo if that map was not a jungle i apolgize to me it looked like there was a lot of trees if it isnt a jungle does anyone know what it was called
There should be trees in a jungle. There was one called Temple and Mines ans some others I don't remember. The hive shown in the DX11 presentation looked good so I'd like to see the hive map. Colonies too.
hive would be good for survivour and infestation me thinks the one i was talking about was probably temple it had lots of fegetation and trees ;D
They've shown the levels Jungle and Temple.
Maybe this has nothing to do with anything but here it goes
http://ps3.ign.com/articles/105/1052600p1.html
Quote from: Brother on Dec 07, 2009, 01:04:22 PM
Maybe this has nothing to do with anything but here it goes
http://ps3.ign.com/articles/105/1052600p1.html
It's not like anybody was surprised by this, a different team within Rebellion had to pick up someone else's game and quickly finish it up to release. Not a very interesting concept either.
Just saying. Lets hope it doesn't mean anything to AvP3
Quote from: Brother on Dec 07, 2009, 01:25:37 PM
Just saying. Lets hope it doesn't mean anything to AvP3
Well we're all hoping it doesn't, I'm just saying its pretty unlikely.
Quote from: Big Head Ninja on Dec 07, 2009, 01:14:12 PM
Quote from: Brother on Dec 07, 2009, 01:04:22 PM
Maybe this has nothing to do with anything but here it goes
http://ps3.ign.com/articles/105/1052600p1.html
It's not like anybody was surprised by this, a different team within Rebellion had to pick up someone else's game and quickly finish it up to release. Not a very interesting concept either.
I can imagine it is an absolute NIGHTMARE doing that! And frankly, if it will revenue at least something, why turn it down? Rebellion has so many studio sites that they can have several games in the loop simultaneously. I know they have offices in Oxford, Liverpool and Derby. They've also bought a couple of studios in the past. We should be able to rest assured that the team focusing on AvP will deliver, and do it with grace, glory (gory? :D) and style. They do have some of the old devs on the team, which should count for something (oh Kevin Floyer-Lea, where art thou? ::))
Kotaku preview (http://kotaku.com/5424567/aliens-vs-predator-impressions-this-time-as-an-alien) on the Alien.
Loving the screenshot.
the same recycled screenshot. :p
They didn't seem to have much to say.
well they are just waiting for the explosive news next month
Well, there wasn't much commentary on the whole thing. It was just "so there's X, Y and Z".
I am waiting for some new videos to shot up. Thats what I want.
QuoteI didn't see it use guns...
Nice
Momma alien in the corner of your screen!
Quote from: Brother on Dec 12, 2009, 12:25:46 AM
QuoteI didn't see it use guns...
Nice
Momma alien in the corner of your screen!
WAIT WHAT WHERE?!
QuoteBut it can take orders from a momma Alien, who utters its commands via a floating-Alien-head icon in the corner of the screen.
Scary stuff
I bet they made the Queen's voice like the Queen from Gears of War... All, beautiful and echoey...
Quote from: Chris!(($$))! on Dec 12, 2009, 12:10:38 AM
I am waiting for some new videos to shot up. Thats what I want.
Very very soon Mr. rabid ALIENS fan.
no video will contain the wait. It's either a demo or full release. XD
A new video at least dulls the craving a little before magnifying it 10 fold. I too need my fix. Please Ikarop hahaha
Quote from: ikarop on Dec 12, 2009, 01:04:45 AM
Quote from: Chris!(($$))! on Dec 12, 2009, 12:10:38 AM
I am waiting for some new videos to shot up. Thats what I want.
Very very soon Mr. rabid ALIENS fan.
Is it soon yet?
Quote from: predalien27 on Dec 12, 2009, 05:39:44 AM
Quote from: ikarop on Dec 12, 2009, 01:04:45 AM
Quote from: Chris!(($$))! on Dec 12, 2009, 12:10:38 AM
I am waiting for some new videos to shot up. Thats what I want.
Very very soon Mr. rabid ALIENS fan.
Is it soon yet?
If you ever become SEGA's CEO, remember this: you will never release a trailer during a weekend!
Quote from: ikarop on Dec 12, 2009, 06:00:46 AM
Quote from: predalien27 on Dec 12, 2009, 05:39:44 AM
Quote from: ikarop on Dec 12, 2009, 01:04:45 AM
Quote from: Chris!(($$))! on Dec 12, 2009, 12:10:38 AM
I am waiting for some new videos to shot up. Thats what I want.
Very very soon Mr. rabid ALIENS fan.
Is it soon yet?
If you ever become SEGA's CEO, remember this: you will never release a trailer during a weekend!
Ok, I'll try when I do become SEGA's CEO. :D
Does that mean we can have the trailer on Monday? ;D
Quote from: Big Head Ninja on Dec 12, 2009, 06:59:04 AM
Does that mean we can have the trailer on Monday? ;D
Nop it doesn't mean nothing like that sorry.
Quote from: ikarop on Dec 12, 2009, 07:09:24 AM
Quote from: Big Head Ninja on Dec 12, 2009, 06:59:04 AM
Does that mean we can have the trailer on Monday? ;D
Nop it doesn't mean nothing like that sorry.
You certainly move in mysterious ways.
See thats the one thing I hate about games. When you are waiting for even a trailer you don't even know when you will get it. I am fine with waiting but I do like to know how long I have to wait for.
*cough* go look in threads. You might find a release date somewhere. ::)
Lol... Maybe I will.
I'm sure there's a thread that has the release date for it. Same with the demo date.
Spoiler
Now you just need to work at SEGA to see it
I don't like Sega too well. I would rather work at Rebellion and much rather at Gearbox. :P
Sega of America deserves credit for making AVP3 possible. Without them, Rebellion probably wouldn't get as much money and support.
Sounds like you love SEGA a whole lot.
Why shouldn't he? Without Sega AvP woulda just disappeared. They're giving us an extremely beautiful and stylized and entertaining game as well as Colonial Marines in the near future. They've done us better than Fox.
I don't hate them I just am not in love with them plus I am a bit upset with their marketing strategies.
Care to clarify?
It's hard to resist the money.
Quote from: Corporal Hicks on Dec 12, 2009, 09:55:52 PM
Care to clarify?
I guess he means the drama with ACM. Plus I will always remember the RPG :'(.
I'm glad they put ACM back. If it wasn't working, it wasn't working. I'd rather it be delayed so we get a quality game than a piece of shit. Shows good quality control.
Sure but it has been the DNF for some Aliens fans so it's kinda understandable if they rage a bit.
Quote from: ikarop on Dec 12, 2009, 10:06:13 PM
Quote from: Corporal Hicks on Dec 12, 2009, 09:55:52 PM
Care to clarify?
I guess he means the drama with ACM. Plus I will always remember the RPG :'(.
Thats the main reason.
Quote from: Corporal Hicks on Dec 12, 2009, 10:08:51 PM
I'm glad they put ACM back. If it wasn't working, it wasn't working. I'd rather it be delayed so we get a quality game than a piece of shit. Shows good quality control.
I am pretty sure that was just a rumor. Gearbox had 3 games when A:CM was announced then AvP3 was announced they went with Borderlands. Now they just have A:CM and three unknown ones but I am sure they are devoting most of their time to A:CM
No. It was true. They weren't meeting their benchmarks.
Quote from: Corporal Hicks on Dec 12, 2009, 10:33:39 PM
No. It was true. They weren't meeting their benchmarks.
What I heard is an article saying that not Sega.
Borderlands wasn't that great an I don't think A:CM would have been ready 1st quarter 2010 anyway.
Gearbox isn't very good with game development (plus they do dumb things like rushing Borderlands out the door and so many glitches.) and besides A:CM won't even have an Alien campaign. It's no where near as valuable as AVP3 is.
The only thing A:CM has going for it is the 4 player co-op campaign, no HUD, and realistic motion tracker. but it won't be as replayable as AVP's multiplayer modes.
Hicks is right. Same with the RPG. Sometimes SEGA seems like the bad guy but well, I've heard from people on the cancelled project that SEGA made the right call. It's not always the way it seems.
And I assume because you're a ACM fanboy you refuse to believe that the game wasn't up to scratch and Sega bent Gearbox over?
Quote from: Corporal Hicks on Dec 12, 2009, 10:37:41 PM
And I assume because you're a ACM fanboy you refuse to believe that the game wasn't up to scratch and Sega bent Gearbox over?
I will accept that it was not as finished as Sega may have wanted it to be but I don't think Sega would just come out and blame Gearbox like that which I why I think its a rumor.
They didn't blame them. Just said the game wasn't where they wanted it so they've given it more development time. That, to me, is logical and shows care for the properties. They could have rushed it and sent it out anyway and then how chuffed would you have been?
Quote from: Corporal Hicks on Dec 12, 2009, 10:46:47 PM
They didn't blame them. Just said the game wasn't where they wanted it so they've given it more development time. That, to me, is logical and shows care for the properties. They could have rushed it and sent it out anyway and then how chuffed would you have been?
Okay then. I am happy but we still never got to really hear about it. For all we know it was something that Sega just did not like and we might have loved it or it could have been the exact opposite. Either way I just want AvP3 to come out so we have a hopefully fun game to play while most of us ALIENS fans wait for A:CM.
You have the marine campaign in AvP3. It's tight.
Quote from: Corporal Hicks on Dec 12, 2009, 10:52:50 PM
You have the marine campaign in AvP3. It's tight.
I hope so. I am actually not really worried about the Marine campaign. More so about the Predator campaign being over kill and the Xeno one have story elements I dislike.
The general info/rumor or what ever out there was that A:CM is pushed back to give AvP space.
We can only speculate if A:CM would have been ready in time etc. And we don't know what "in time" means for A:CM, it doesn't necessarily means O1 2010. And AvP has been in production longer than A:CM.
On the side, Borderline is doing great, sales and critics.
Let's try to keep it on the propper thread please.
http://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/index.php?topic=23289.0
Plus this short preview about the campaigns from IGN (http://xbox360.ign.com/articles/105/1053330p1.html).
Quote from: Corporal Hicks on Dec 12, 2009, 10:52:50 PM
You have the marine campaign in AvP3. It's tight.
Nah, no team play in AvP.
http://www.fz.se/artiklar/20091031/aliens-vs-predator
It's in Swedish. I might translate it at another time. But I wanted to highlight one particular thing where they talk about Survivor:
Many have obviously asked for a cooperative mode where the goal is to withstand an endless stream of enemies, will this be part of the game?
Yes, you will be able to cooperate with friends to kill waves of aliens that storm you.
No predators?
No. We noticed that the AI preferred to keep their distance and snipe players, which wasn't particularly entertaining. Instead, each wave of aliens comes with a less delay than the previous, so if you do not manage to clean up the previous wave you will have to deal with a tough situation in a matter of seconds. Especially when the ammunition is out in the dark corridors, which means you will have to run into the darkness to not be without it.
So... they decided to skip predators for Survivor because they "kept their distance" and that was not entertaining. I'd say that would be scary as HELL!! First having to deal up close with aliens only to see a red light in your face before you die. I'd find that truly entertaining.
I hope they will reconsider and add predator AI to Survivor :)
Interesting. It's the first instance where they've mentioned predator AI. I'd personally like to see it in some of the survivor maps too. Oh well.
Probably not, if the Preds were behaving in a camp-like manner it would prove to be frustrating to have a bunch of Preds kicking back and constantly launching plasma bolts at you. Maybe if they altered the Preds in Survivor to get more up close and personal, they could serve as rarer but tougher enemies. Imagine seeing the bending light coming your way and frantically telling your friends a Pred's about to rip into you! Would make players pay more attention to spot the cloaking every now and then.
Yeah, I find it really funny that they say "We noticed that the predator AI preferred to..." when it is Rebellion that created it themselves. They can just as "easily" (AI is not easy, believe me) modify it to be "entertaining" (in their eyes) and well suited for Survivor.
Quote from: Eldritch on Dec 14, 2009, 01:12:34 PM
Yeah, I find it really funny that they say "We noticed that the predator AI preferred to..." when it is Rebellion that created it themselves.
Well, that's why they call it Artificial Intelligence ;D Perhaps a sign the AI will be fairly dynamic in this game? We've already heard about Marines trying to track you down if they become aware of your presence as an Alien, perhaps the Preds can change their tactics up a bit too.
Yes, of course, but Rebellion still defined the rules for the AI. It's not like it is a self-learning AI. If it is, that'd put AvP as the most advanced game out there, but I highly doubt it.
Nevertheless, it would still be great to have predators in the mix as well, no matter if they stood on a distance or moved up close. Just throw in a few at a time, starting with 1 and increasing by 1 for each 3rd alien wave or something..
Waves of preds? Well then maybe we should have alien in "Predator hunt".
Not wave. Just a single pred in the mix, and it increases. Maybe max 3 preds during an alien wave.
Heh.. alien in Predator Hunt? Are you stupid?
Pred in alien survivor...are YOU stupid?
edit:(Relatively)-Yep, a couple or 3 young preds at the beggining and then progressively increasing their difficulty via AI / profile. Anyway, don't forget on that Rebellion has a dead-line before the game goes gold. I prefer great and high quality stuff than a bunch of medium/low quality things put together. That's my opinion, though. Moreover, it'll be time for further patches and for an expansion in the future. Auto-lol here... the games has not even hit the streets and I'm talking about an expansion for it. lol' :D
You are ok,some people have mentioned AvP4.
Yeah, I am stupid, and I can admit it :)
Well, I am all for it appearing later, it's just something they should reconsider once the game has gone gold and they focus on the future of the game, IF they will do that. It's in the hands of SEGA and us.
Those are pure MvA and PvM modes and they should stay that way. But if they consider doing it they better put in the option to remove the "unwanted" species.
I am talking Survivor here, not something else :P
In AvP1 survival (or coop, I don't remember what it was called) players could also choose Predators to help the Marines against the Aliens.
Wonder if we'll get something similar too?
Or everyone has terrible memories after the human/pred alliance in AvP movie? :P
In a recent Xbox360 mag article the guys stated "And if we have one critisism about AvP so far, its the Marines being generic. Even dull. Considering the rise of class based team shooters in the last 10 years, its suprising that every Marine is virtually identical, they have no specializations, uninspired firepower(although it keeps with the alien/pred mythology) and no special moves. In the final MP game, will the underapreciated Marine be as much fun as the Alien or Pred? We hope so, otherwise Deathmatch and Teamdeath match will be just Alien vs Predator vs No humans."
All i want to do is play as Marines, i just hope it all comes to grips in time.
That's half the fun! You're playing the underdog and the smile comes from besting the others. :)
Quote from: Corporal Hicks on Dec 14, 2009, 06:11:26 PM
That's half the fun! You're playing the underdog and the smile comes from besting the others. :)
Like tracers, this smile can go both ways. ;D
I agree they have modernized the marine side of the game but that's not the whole of the game. The experience of AvP is these three separate species with next-gen beauty and technology. You're not just playing human vs human, you're being pitted against other species with totally different styles of gameplay.
Quote from: Corporal Hicks on Dec 14, 2009, 06:22:56 PM
I agree they have modernized the marine side of the game but that's not the whole of the game. The experience of AvP is these three separate species with next-gen beauty and technology. You're not just playing human vs human, you're being pitted against other species with totally different styles of gameplay.
What other FPS would you compare the Marine gameplay to? What were the controls like?
uninspired firepower? those guys are idiots.
They probably grew up watching The Matrix. :P
AvP features an article on this month's OXM.
(https://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg257.imageshack.us%2Fimg257%2F9949%2Fimage28v.jpg&hash=ae26a388e975b9ca6a9b9e0549a136684be4afd8) (http://img257.imageshack.us/img257/9949/image28v.jpg)
Just got it. Nice article with nice general opinions on gameplay. One new screeny i think. Will try and scan in soon.
Inside Xbox is featuring a new video interview with Jason Kingsley and Alex Moore. Hopefully someone who owns an Xbox360 can check it.
Will do as soon as I get home.
*cough* put-it-at-youtube-if-possible *cough*
Damn, getting a cold again :P
*Cough* *cough*yeah, plz ,do it*cough*.. damn it.. me too. Get better dude. :P
I don't have any way of doing that. But they talk slightly about Survivor and how it's a case of you will die but it's how well you do before hand. Talk slightly about the Alien and Predator gameplay. No new footage, it's all the b-roll issued for the Lance interviews and seen in the various Lance interviews. They do have a question with him talking about playing the villain though.
Quote from: Corporal Hicks on Dec 14, 2009, 11:33:34 PM
I don't have any way of doing that. But they talk slightly about Survivor and how it's a case of you will die but it's how well you do before hand. Talk slightly about the Alien and Predator gameplay. No new footage, it's all the b-roll issued for the Lance interviews and seen in the various Lance interviews. They do have a question with him talking about playing the villain though.
Oh how... uninteresting, except for that last part.
YES!!!!! endless waves for co-op! yes!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Hmm I will check that out right now.
Uhh.. I can't find it. Where can I find the video on Xbox Live?
EDIT: Nevermind I found it. It was the last one listed in the archive.... :-[
Y, I heard they actually tried Predators as enemies in Survivor but they remvoed them coz they were camping xD .
Did you hear it here - http://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/index.php?topic=27037.msg584524#msg584524
:)
Then this looks to me as a weapon range issue. Just for curiosity.. clone the weapon tables and do crop the ranges for Plasma Casters, Disks, et cetera else for the Preds into this unique mode.
HA!. Said and done... I know; sorry... ;(
what's insane is that they left the question as if people wanted waves of a.i. predators
People want predators playable for the co-op mode. not the other way around lol.
Quote from: affinity on Dec 15, 2009, 07:56:37 PM
what's insane is that they left the question as if people wanted waves of a.i. predators
People want predators playable for the co-op mode. not the other way around lol.
Preds co-operating with aliens and marines??
CANON, CANON, ETC.... ;)
no I mean an option to play Survivor as 4 Predator players vs. legions of Aliens.
Quote from: affinity on Dec 15, 2009, 08:30:51 PM
no I mean an option to play Survivor as 4 Predator players vs. legions of Aliens.
Gotta admit that sounds pretty cool... :)
Because they can't hold off against more aliens with just their combi stick or their mines, it will turn into a spam fest, plasma.
Come to think of it, you may be right
Quote from: brennan4 on Dec 15, 2009, 08:40:15 PM
Quote from: affinity on Dec 15, 2009, 08:30:51 PM
no I mean an option to play Survivor as 4 Predator players vs. legions of Aliens.
Gotta admit that sounds pretty cool... :)
yeah it would be like in the movie! except 4 predators instead of 3. :) Grid Alien won't win this time!
Mines, grenades.. yeah
Quote from: Chris!(($$))! on Dec 15, 2009, 03:50:11 AM
Hmm I will check that out right now.
Uhh.. I can't find it. Where can I find the video on Xbox Live?
EDIT: Nevermind I found it. It was the last one listed in the archive.... :-[
Wait where did u find it? i cant find it D=
Quote from: Eldritch on Dec 14, 2009, 02:11:20 PM
Not wave. Just a single pred in the mix, and it increases. Maybe max 3 preds during an alien wave.
The Aliens and Predators would fight, though.
Quote from: 3volved on Dec 15, 2009, 10:58:56 PM
Quote from: Chris!(($$))! on Dec 15, 2009, 03:50:11 AM
Hmm I will check that out right now.
Uhh.. I can't find it. Where can I find the video on Xbox Live?
EDIT: Nevermind I found it. It was the last one listed in the archive.... :-[
Wait where did u find it? i cant find it D=
Under the Xbox Live archives go to OXM and its the last video on the list.
Quote from: Chris!(($$))! on Dec 16, 2009, 12:11:24 AM
Quote from: 3volved on Dec 15, 2009, 10:58:56 PM
Quote from: Chris!(($$))! on Dec 15, 2009, 03:50:11 AM
Hmm I will check that out right now.
Uhh.. I can't find it. Where can I find the video on Xbox Live?
EDIT: Nevermind I found it. It was the last one listed in the archive.... :-[
Wait where did u find it? i cant find it D=
Under the Xbox Live archives go to OXM and its the last video on the list.
Its not there for me :-\
hmm... I am not sure then. You can find it on Youtube. Type in AvP3 OXM.
Here. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MgwcYMPRqKc&feature=related
Added GamesRadar (http://www.gamesradar.com/ps3/aliens-vs-predator/preview/aliens-vs-predator-single-player-hands-on/a-200912159583626061/g-200905211032241022/p-1) single player preview.
QuoteEven when equipped with an iconic pulse rifle things don't let up. A later section in an infested nightclub is quite superb. Power temporarily restored, the music throbs as Aliens uncurl themselves from the ceiling.
And there's our stripper :P.
OOH A VIDEO!
Edit: Nevermind that was an advert..
Quote from: S.Y.L on Dec 15, 2009, 08:00:32 PM
Quote from: affinity on Dec 15, 2009, 07:56:37 PM
what's insane is that they left the question as if people wanted waves of a.i. predators
People want predators playable for the co-op mode. not the other way around lol.
Preds co-operating with aliens and marines??
CANON, CANON, ETC.... ;)
Ughhh... you guys and your canon, Multiplayer is not canon, that goes without saying.
Quote from: RidgeTop on Dec 16, 2009, 03:56:24 AM
Quote from: S.Y.L on Dec 15, 2009, 08:00:32 PM
Quote from: affinity on Dec 15, 2009, 07:56:37 PM
what's insane is that they left the question as if people wanted waves of a.i. predators
People want predators playable for the co-op mode. not the other way around lol.
Preds co-operating with aliens and marines??
CANON, CANON, ETC.... ;)
Ughhh... you guys and your canon, Multiplayer is not canon, that goes without saying.
That is true but it does not mean its not weird to be fighting on cross species teams.
Quote from: Chris!(($$))! on Dec 16, 2009, 04:10:38 AM
Quote from: RidgeTop on Dec 16, 2009, 03:56:24 AM
Quote from: S.Y.L on Dec 15, 2009, 08:00:32 PM
Quote from: affinity on Dec 15, 2009, 07:56:37 PM
what's insane is that they left the question as if people wanted waves of a.i. predators
People want predators playable for the co-op mode. not the other way around lol.
Preds co-operating with aliens and marines??
CANON, CANON, ETC.... ;)
Ughhh... you guys and your canon, Multiplayer is not canon, that goes without saying.
That is true but it does not mean its not weird to be fighting on cross species teams.
Its just an extra mode, there is normal species deathmatch as well.
Quote from: RidgeTop on Dec 16, 2009, 04:13:26 AM
Quote from: Chris!(($$))! on Dec 16, 2009, 04:10:38 AM
Quote from: RidgeTop on Dec 16, 2009, 03:56:24 AM
Quote from: S.Y.L on Dec 15, 2009, 08:00:32 PM
Quote from: affinity on Dec 15, 2009, 07:56:37 PM
what's insane is that they left the question as if people wanted waves of a.i. predators
People want predators playable for the co-op mode. not the other way around lol.
Preds co-operating with aliens and marines??
CANON, CANON, ETC.... ;)
Ughhh... you guys and your canon, Multiplayer is not canon, that goes without saying.
That is true but it does not mean its not weird to be fighting on cross species teams.
Its just an extra mode, there is normal species deathmatch as well.
I know. But the idea of it still irritates me.
Some lines shouldn't be crossed.
QuoteAny problems?
Jumping from one point to another is performed by holding down a button, sweeping the reticule over the screen and pressing another button. This is time-consuming and hardly makes for fluid escapes when pinned down by fire.
And that is SP.
Quote from: RidgeTop on Dec 16, 2009, 03:56:24 AM
Quote from: S.Y.L on Dec 15, 2009, 08:00:32 PM
Quote from: affinity on Dec 15, 2009, 07:56:37 PM
what's insane is that they left the question as if people wanted waves of a.i. predators
People want predators playable for the co-op mode. not the other way around lol.
Preds co-operating with aliens and marines??
CANON, CANON, ETC.... ;)
Ughhh... you guys and your canon, Multiplayer is not canon, that goes without saying.
Yeah.. and whining fans are not canon either. Never saw any of those in either movie... Hmmmmmm
For the record, I don't think the Predjump was ever intended to be a panic switch. If anything, it's a tool for controlling the situation - if you're a Predator and you're in a hard spot involuntarily, you deserve to get fragged.
Quote from: ikarop on Dec 16, 2009, 02:40:22 AM
Added GamesRadar (http://www.gamesradar.com/ps3/aliens-vs-predator/preview/aliens-vs-predator-single-player-hands-on/a-200912159583626061/g-200905211032241022/p-1) single player preview.
QuoteEven when equipped with an iconic pulse rifle things don't let up. A later section in an infested nightclub is quite superb. Power temporarily restored, the music throbs as Aliens uncurl themselves from the ceiling.
And there's our stripper :P.
haha i dont think there is nudity in the game !
btw i like the preview !
Maybe it wasn't intended to be a ninja button but it doesn't matter because people are going to try it when they want a quick escape. That guy tried it once in SP and it didn't work.
Then they'll just have to learn the benefits of playing in-character.
Quote from: Brother on Dec 16, 2009, 12:06:09 PM
Maybe it wasn't intended to be a ninja button but it doesn't matter because people are going to try it when they want a quick escape. That guy tried it once in SP and it didn't work.
That goes to show you that it takes skill to play this game. With practice you will be able to use the jump in any situation.
Quote from: Chris!(($$))! on Dec 16, 2009, 01:03:39 AM
hmm... I am not sure then. You can find it on Youtube. Type in AvP3 OXM.
Here. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MgwcYMPRqKc&feature=related
That's an old one. From the summer The new one was either taken down or might only be available in certain areas. My guess is it only available in the UK.
Quote from: XxecutionerxX on Dec 16, 2009, 04:13:40 PM
Quote from: Brother on Dec 16, 2009, 12:06:09 PM
Maybe it wasn't intended to be a ninja button but it doesn't matter because people are going to try it when they want a quick escape. That guy tried it once in SP and it didn't work.
That goes to show you that it takes skill to play this game. With practice you will be able to use the jump in any situation.
Yes, it will probably get too easy in time.
It is kind of surprising how nowadays people want their games to play itself and don't want to deal with any learning curve.
Exactly. Though this feature might be in there for the console's benefit.
To master this does not represent any real effort, IMO. Nevertheless, to master 3 light saber styles in JK2 undoubtfully is an effort, which by the way, provided back a huge amount of enjoyment to me.
Arcade players take their time to be aware of that. But at the end they do enjoy the learning curve thing.
Mastering any race in this is going to be an effort, I think. Especially the Alien - learning to take complete advantage of the wallwalk and staying hidden despite the lack of a cloaking device won't be easy.
When I play as the alien, I'll wait until the last possible second, and wait until they actually spot me, then I'll juke' them all over the walls.
Quote from: newbeing on Dec 16, 2009, 04:27:16 PM
Quote from: Chris!(($$))! on Dec 16, 2009, 01:03:39 AM
hmm... I am not sure then. You can find it on Youtube. Type in AvP3 OXM.
Here. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MgwcYMPRqKc&feature=related
That's an old one. From the summer The new one was either taken down or might only be available in certain areas. My guess is it only available in the UK.
No... Thats the new one. They even show Henriksen's character being made at 0:54. I think its Henriksen's character at least.
In my opinion, the learning curve is as positive as cool for the player into a well designed game.
The " Hey, I can do this... and that also. Wow!. What if I do that.. yeah.. it works.. Damn, i do need to practice this cool thing more... Heheh.. And what if..?" factor is essentially part of the game's lifespan ( And mods, mods, mods.. the Celtic guy had a point there ).
Quote from: Chris!(($$))! on Dec 16, 2009, 11:20:22 PM
No... Thats the new one. They even show Henriksen's character being made at 0:54. I think its Henriksen's character at least.
No...it's the old one. I know...I barely just watched the new one.
Multiplayer preview from Kotaku. Some screens included.
http://kotaku.com/5428840/
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Nice. Im starting to warm up to Infestation.
We gettin' any more goods today?
Don't know sorry, I have a hole in my head (http://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/index.php?topic=27240.msg586242#msg586242) and lost my memories.
We need some PC version information.
Not just some renders from the x360 version.
Indeed.
Quit your complainin'.
Another screen from Kotaku, kinda related to their preview.
(https://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fcache.gawker.com%2Fassets%2Fimages%2F9%2F2009%2F12%2Fcustom_1261076785644_avp_preview_screens_30.jpg&hash=a14960250eacd3a91942e42401dcc3c2698daf86) (http://cache.gawker.com/assets/images/9/2009/12/custom_1261076785644_avp_preview_screens_30.jpg)
Thanks Xeno.
That's f**ked up.
I love it.
Quote from: ikarop on Dec 17, 2009, 09:44:52 PM
Another screen from Kotaku, kinda related to their preview.
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Thanks Xeno.
Lol looks funny
Oh snap!
Quote from: ikarop on Dec 17, 2009, 09:44:52 PM
Another screen from Kotaku, kinda related to their preview.
(https://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fcache.gawker.com%2Fassets%2Fimages%2F9%2F2009%2F12%2Fcustom_1261076785644_avp_preview_screens_30.jpg&hash=a14960250eacd3a91942e42401dcc3c2698daf86) (http://cache.gawker.com/assets/images/9/2009/12/custom_1261076785644_avp_preview_screens_30.jpg)
Thanks Xeno.
holy shit
Quote from: Huol on Dec 17, 2009, 11:36:24 PM
Quote from: ikarop on Dec 17, 2009, 09:44:52 PM
Another screen from Kotaku, kinda related to their preview.
(https://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fcache.gawker.com%2Fassets%2Fimages%2F9%2F2009%2F12%2Fcustom_1261076785644_avp_preview_screens_30.jpg&hash=a14960250eacd3a91942e42401dcc3c2698daf86) (http://cache.gawker.com/assets/images/9/2009/12/custom_1261076785644_avp_preview_screens_30.jpg)
Thanks Xeno.
holy shit
Sorry I beat you to it. I need to clean my pants. :-[ Oh yeah! Nice find! ;)
Quote from: ikarop on Dec 17, 2009, 05:44:25 PM
Don't know sorry, I have a hole in my head (http://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/index.php?topic=27240.msg586242#msg586242) and lost my memories.
That's f**king disgusting lol. For some reason i find that one far worse than the one posted above..
People are definitly going to need a strong stomach to play this game.
Ouch !! :D
Quote from: ikarop on Dec 17, 2009, 09:44:52 PM
Another screen from Kotaku, kinda related to their preview.
(https://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fcache.gawker.com%2Fassets%2Fimages%2F9%2F2009%2F12%2Fcustom_1261076785644_avp_preview_screens_30.jpg&hash=a14960250eacd3a91942e42401dcc3c2698daf86) (http://cache.gawker.com/assets/images/9/2009/12/custom_1261076785644_avp_preview_screens_30.jpg)
Thanks Xeno.
Oh! they have defiantly upgraded the look to pulling out a marine's spine. Now instead of just a boney spine, its a spine with some meat on it.
Ikarop, man. Post a couple more, pleases !. I pay pizza and beer for you tomorrow!! :D
Blurry gore for you then.
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Neck entrails FTW.
Now some aliens eating preds, and some marine t-baging a pred.
Now some sleep.
Quote from: Brother on Dec 18, 2009, 02:13:01 AM
and some marine t-baging a pred.
Thanks for that.. the image I now have in my head is more disgusting than all of these screenshots combined lol :P
Quote from: ikarop on Dec 18, 2009, 02:09:30 AM
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Poor guy
I like the furious expression in his eyes.
What are those marks on his forehead though?
Idk but he does have that I hate u look in his eyes
Quote from: ikarop on Dec 18, 2009, 02:09:30 AM
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Beautiful.
Beautiful.... Beautiful...
Those shots are from the first Predator level.
One thing I don't like there are the red lines all over your screen. The bar on the bottom has to be there and the one on the right should only appear when you are identifying your victim - species, weapons etc.
I'm not really a fan of intrusive huds myself either. But I always find that they sort of fade into the background after a while, so it's not a massive problem for me.
Plus I think it suits the predator in a way, he is wearing a mask after all. His vision would probably be a little restricted anyway.
I
It can be restricted with blurring the environment, distorted vision in some specific situations etc. Those lines will get annoying.
You will find some people thinking their vision should be perfect with the mask.
Hopefully there'll be an option to change the transparency.
Haha I actually like complex huds! :D
Quote from: Huol on Dec 18, 2009, 09:39:05 PM
Hopefully there'll be an option to change the transparency.
YES! Thats a good idea.
Quote from: Chris!(($$))! on Dec 19, 2009, 01:06:43 AM
Quote from: Huol on Dec 18, 2009, 09:39:05 PM
Hopefully there'll be an option to change the transparency.
YES! Thats a good idea.
Indeed ! :)
Quote from: The_Silencer on Dec 10, 2009, 01:23:12 AM
Maybe the guys at Rebellion have got the next suggestion implemented already. I'd really like to have a couple of controls to turning off/on the hud and to raise / lower the transparency level of the hud's items.
For instance, the jumping points for the Predator do look cool to me but perhaps these do look too "solid", IMO. That's a matter of tastes though.
Another benefit of this would be to mostly have the screen clean of items in order to frapping promo mini-movies and so on. Just an idea tho. What you think on this?
Quote from: ikarop on Dec 18, 2009, 02:09:30 AM
Blurry gore for you then.
(https://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg9.imageshack.us%2Fimg9%2F1378%2F06jpgi.jpg&hash=a8b2a8907fbd3dbf9e9efefe359ca290722f1bbf)
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And how not; big thanks to Ikarop for that couple of anticipated shots! ;)
PS: I think the guy being caught and looking into the eye is thinking.. " I'm gonna respawn and screw you well; damn you!" .. or something :D
It's SP. "I'm gonna f*** you up next time you play this campaign"
New preview at Geek.com (http://www.geek.com/articles/games/preview-aliens-vs-predator-20091219/). Also a couple of already seen but untagged HQ screens there.
Cool to see how everyone is spreading the word around ! ;)
Quote from: Brother on Dec 19, 2009, 10:17:39 AM
It's SP. "I'm gonna f*** you up next time you play this campaign"
Yep, that fits much better then; but only in case you do not get your self killed during the entire campaign though :D
Marines should have the option to turn off the HUD minus the motion tracker. That health bar looks really tacked on. and white is a really distracting color.
it's like your playing the game through photoshop or something.
Quote from: affinity on Dec 19, 2009, 06:12:51 PM
Marines should have the option to turn off the HUD minus the motion tracker. That health bar looks really tacked on. and white is a really distracting color.
it's like your playing the game through photoshop or something.
Yah thats what I was thinking too. The entire HUD should be recolored Blue since Predator has Red and Aliens have Green. And then it should be faded away a bit more to be less distracting.
And if possible, implement a console command, or a setting in the config if you will, to completely switch off the game's GUI, so we, the fans, can record "clean" ingame videos for the general public's pleasure :)
Quote from: affinity on Dec 19, 2009, 06:12:51 PM
Marines should have the option to turn off the HUD minus the motion tracker. That health bar looks really tacked on. and white is a really distracting color.
it's like your playing the game through photoshop or something.
I like how it looks. It looks like you are watching the marine's video connection, except that it is more advanced than in Aliens hence being 30 years later.
Quote from: predalien27 on Dec 19, 2009, 11:26:14 PM
Quote from: affinity on Dec 19, 2009, 06:12:51 PM
Marines should have the option to turn off the HUD minus the motion tracker. That health bar looks really tacked on. and white is a really distracting color.
it's like your playing the game through photoshop or something.
I like how it looks. It looks like you are watching the marine's video connection, except that it is more advanced than in Aliens hence being 30 years later.
the font looked more bluish
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6kmTNObny3k
Besides why such a huge health bar? aliens and predators are gonna kill marines in one or two hits anyways.
Canonically, yeah.
But for the sake of a playable game, you probably have a certain amount of resilience against both.
Quote from: MadassAlex on Dec 20, 2009, 12:03:45 AM
Canonically, yeah.
But for the sake of a playable game, you probably have a certain amount of resilience against both.
Online it looks like it takes a good 5-7 claw attacks from the alien to kill a marine. It will probably take more in single player too.
Did we actually see footage of an Alien attacking a Marine without stealth-killing him? :D
Predators seem to take three 'normal' attacks to take down. I don't believe Marines will take five to seven. The prediction is two hits. The damage you inflict is likely to be consistent across multiplayer and singleplayer to a certain degree, so while enemies look like they'll be quite vulnerable... the same applies to you.
Do arms and legs come off if you claw them?
Dunno. I'd assume 'yes'.
so what there's gonna be Health packs in the maps or something?
Quote from: Huol on Dec 20, 2009, 12:27:54 AM
Do arms and legs come off if you claw them?
Quote from: MadassAlex on Dec 20, 2009, 12:29:17 AM
Dunno. I'd assume 'yes'.
I'd rather see claw slash marks than limbs fall off
I'd like to see dismemberment into this game. And if you will, a couple of settings to switch on/off the most gore part of the game. The later for those who complain on it; which is obviously not my case.
Quote from: affinity on Dec 20, 2009, 12:32:11 AM
so what there's gonna be Health packs in the maps or something?
From what I saw it looks like you start off with an amount of drugs or shots sort of like Bad Company but if you run out you have to resupply from other things that look like ammo crates.
oh okay. hmmm so they are like mini medics.
OH YEAH! ANY WORD IF PREDATORS STILL HAVE THEIR MEDICAL KIT?
That is really important considering they are good at healing themselves with medical tools
from the cosmos.
Quote from: affinity on Dec 21, 2009, 02:04:26 AM
oh okay. hmmm so they are like mini medics.
OH YEAH! ANY WORD IF PREDATORS STILL HAVE THEIR MEDICAL KIT?
That is really important considering they are good at healing themselves with medical tools
from the cosmos.
We've seen it in videos.
Yeh. Though they look a lot different. They look like 2 big sharp crystals you stab yourself with.
Quote from: Chris!(($$))! on Dec 21, 2009, 03:01:00 AM
Yeh. Though they look a lot different. They look like 2 big sharp crystals you stab yourself with.
Not much different than AvP2's.
A lot different than in the movies in which it was only the blue liquid that the Preds used. Then again maybe they just put that liquid all over what they are using in this game.
Quote from: kvon17 on Dec 21, 2009, 05:15:29 AM
Quote from: Chris!(($$))! on Dec 21, 2009, 03:01:00 AM
Yeh. Though they look a lot different. They look like 2 big sharp crystals you stab yourself with.
Not much different than AvP2's.
Well AvP2 just had two big knives lol
Quote from: Huol on Dec 21, 2009, 06:28:09 AM
Quote from: kvon17 on Dec 21, 2009, 05:15:29 AM
Quote from: Chris!(($$))! on Dec 21, 2009, 03:01:00 AM
Yeh. Though they look a lot different. They look like 2 big sharp crystals you stab yourself with.
Not much different than AvP2's.
Well AvP2 just had two big knives lol
Hey! Stabbing yourself became useful in that game. :p
It's the same here.
AvP is not Rogue Warrior (http://www.nowgamer.com/news/2093/rebellion-avp-is-no-rogue-warrior) at NowGamer.
Let's hope they deliver.
Really hope they deliver as well. Quite alot riding on this.....don't even want to THINK about what would happen if the outcome of the game is along the lines of Rogue Warrior and ShellShock 2.....
it will deliver successfully. Only nitpickers will miss out on the fun.
Even if it's no better than 1999 AVP, people will still love it.
At least it'll be better then P:CJ, AVP:Ex and AVP-R. :)
I think it would help if the Marine weapon spawns in the map are not preset.
The types of weapon that spawns in a spot should be random, otherwise people will exploit
memorizing the spots with the best guns and it would just turn the maps into a single track routine.
Quote from: affinity on Dec 21, 2009, 03:36:29 PM
it will deliver successfully. Only nitpickers will miss out on the fun.
zomg!
lol MAG developers are desperately trying to get more people to buy MAG.
http://kotaku.com/5431310/mag-open-beta-is-just-around-the-corner
but everyone knows it sucks. Even the fans admit it. No wonder MAG fears AVP,
they rush the game even more releasing it a month before AVP.
But smart gamers know not to waste their money on MAG. They might play the beta just
because it's free, but definitely they know their money is best saved for AVP in February.
Quote from: affinity on Dec 21, 2009, 04:35:09 PM
I think it would help if the Marine weapon spawns in the map are not preset.
The types of weapon that spawns in a spot should be random, otherwise people will exploit
memorizing the spots with the best guns and it would just turn the maps into a single track routine.
AvP2. Quarantine. Mini-Gun.
yeah see that's what I mean. MP should avoid routines in its design. Weapon spawns should definitely randomly choose what type of weapon spawns there. Maybe even random weapon spots would help too.
Quote from: affinity on Dec 21, 2009, 06:45:18 PM
yeah see that's what I mean. MP should avoid routines in its design. Weapon spawns should definitely randomly choose what type of weapon spawns there. Maybe even random weapon spots would help too.
I disagree. It would put the marines at a huge disadvantage if they go for the minigun to find that they're actually just getting a shotgun. Keep the weapons in the same spot.
I'd give them all the weapons or their class-weapons so they can start playing after they respawn, not looking for their weapons.
Quote from: kvon17 on Dec 21, 2009, 07:46:25 PM
Quote from: affinity on Dec 21, 2009, 06:45:18 PM
yeah see that's what I mean. MP should avoid routines in its design. Weapon spawns should definitely randomly choose what type of weapon spawns there. Maybe even random weapon spots would help too.
I disagree. It would put the marines at a huge disadvantage if they go for the minigun to find that they're actually just getting a shotgun. Keep the weapons in the same spot.
No with good skills they can still survive with a shotgun. Besides Marines should work as a team to survive instead of racing for the minigun to feel in control.
Hmm I saw MP video and the menu shows there is an option to turn off species balancing.
But they said no classes, so yeah, can't start with a smartgun it seems.
But with BETTER skills someone will slash them before they can think of getting the weapon. And sure the marines will work as a team.
Quote from: Brother on Dec 21, 2009, 08:06:26 PM
But with BETTER skills someone will slash them before they can think of getting the weapon. And sure the marines will work as a team.
But BEFORE THAT the better skills alien gets gunned down by alert better skill Marines accompanying the other player.
They better be a team if they wanna stand a chance. This game isn't for rambos.
90% of the people play for their beloved scores. Sure they will watch someone's back.
Quote from: Brother on Dec 21, 2009, 08:29:53 PM
90% of the people play for their beloved scores. Sure they will watch someone's back.
Those fools will be doing the deathmatch free for alls, which is a mode aimed for self-centered casuals anyway.
In no respawn matches and co-op they would be eaten alive.
I am talking off course about the most played mode - TDM. As for the other modes depends on the people. Some refuse to stick with the rest in a basic co-op campaign.
Quote from: Brother on Dec 21, 2009, 09:01:06 PM
I am talking off course about the most played mode - TDM. As for the other modes depends on the people. Some refuse to stick with the rest in a basic co-op campaign.
There is lots of team work in Survivor/Infestation. Although its VERY simple. Camp in smallest most narrow room and shoot any entrance. :P
On the marine side of the things. Your MT shows you about 180 degrees of the world in front of you. So team work here. One pal on your back and you got 360 degrees. Hope that running backwards is as fast as running forward though :P
Quote from: Chris!(($$))! on Dec 21, 2009, 09:38:10 PM
There is lots of team work in Survivor/Infestation. Although its VERY simple. Camp in smallest most narrow room and shoot any entrance. :P
= fun
Quote from: Moody on Dec 21, 2009, 03:46:11 PM
At least it'll be better then P:CJ, AVP:Ex and AVP-R. :)
>:(
Quote from: Brother on Dec 21, 2009, 10:49:46 PM
= fun
I hope there's at least one map with a no-brainer location for Marines to hold out in. That way, when I get selected as the Alien, I'll hightail it to that location and camp a dark corner for a minute or so, until they're wondering where the hell the Alien is...
;D
Quote from: MadassAlex on Dec 22, 2009, 02:38:35 AM
Quote from: Brother on Dec 21, 2009, 10:49:46 PM
= fun
I hope there's at least one map with a no-brainer location for Marines to hold out in. That way, when I get selected as the Alien, I'll hightail it to that location and camp a dark corner for a minute or so, until they're wondering where the hell the Alien is...
;D
I'm sure there will be plenty of those. The only problem is even the thickest of players will get smart to that.. eventually. It's the whole monkey see monkey do thing, which is how most gamers learn lol.
Quote from: l3awl3ag on Dec 22, 2009, 03:09:42 AMThe only problem is even the thickest of players will get smart to that.. eventually.
Oh really? Damn, I hope so... I'm still waiting on that. :p
Quote from: Moody on Dec 21, 2009, 03:46:11 PM
At least it'll be better then P:CJ, AVP:Ex and AVP-R. :)
P:CJ is a great game, i love it.
They have learning material, every single standard map in AvP2 was like that.
Every camp location must have at least two alternative entrances.
Quote from: predalien27 on Dec 22, 2009, 02:30:20 AM
Quote from: Moody on Dec 21, 2009, 03:46:11 PM
At least it'll be better then P:CJ, AVP:Ex and AVP-R. :)
>:(
Whats to >:( about? I find AVP:Ex a guilty pleasure but the man is right.
we've waited 10 years for a true successor to AvP Gold.
People should be more grateful. There are a lot of 9/11 and Iraq victims that would have loved to play this instead of bitching about it.
Quote from: Brother on Dec 22, 2009, 11:06:36 AM
They have learning material, every single standard map in AvP2 was like that.
Every camp location must have at least two alternative entrances.
That almost reminds of the Vents on Quarantine. Haha. Seven Downstairs Eight Upstairs.
But A good map in my opinion was Colony and Auriga.
Colony was good when everyone was in the Vents but for some reason it was not as easy as the vents on Quarantine.
Auriga was good cause camping at the Betty was probably the fairest camping place in the game when playing Survivor if you consider camping fair at all.
True about Auriga, which reminds me, that map should be included in AvP3.
Quote from: Brother on Dec 22, 2009, 08:39:00 PM
True about Auriga, which reminds me, that map should be included in AvP3.
In one of the gameplay trailers there was a map at the end they were playing on that could have been the Auriga but its more likely it was Furina since they revealed Runners in that trailer.
Single player hands-on at IGN (http://xbox360.ign.com/articles/105/1057316p1.html).
I'm glad the preview is very positive about the game. :)
IGN tends to be overly generous and positive, but on the other hand, if they say it holds up against -and even exceeds- the likes of Dead Space, Halo et al., then I'm willing to believe them.
awsome preview ! i realy want to go in Hypersleep till release ;D
Tequila!
Quote from: Brother on Dec 23, 2009, 03:05:04 PM
Tequila!
I take it she's the women we see in the story trailer that gets pounced from behind by the Alien..
Maybe, maybe not.
Maybe, Maybe not, Maybe go f**k yourself.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lTaVxTmB5k4
Anyways that was a bit off topic.
Nice IGN review by the way. Lets hope they ain't overdoing it.
Aaaaaah hyper hype hype! I wonder what next month might show?
After reading that preview, Is it possible that you will get facehugged, and you would need to find a cure? for it - well, that would be....odd. :-\
But IGN prediction would be better, that after that scene you start as other marine.
It didn't say the marine got facehugged.
Quotean Alien strikes the player down, dragging them away and leaving us with questions – such as whether the player will take on the role of another Marine for the remaining five chapters - that Rebellion isn't willing to answer just yet.
IGN is wondering.
QuoteIs it possible that you will get facehugged, and you would need to find a cure?
I sure hope not. What I want is a huge GAME OVER! the second the little f*cker puts his penis-vagina thingy down my throat.
IGN said that expect more on New Year. At least it isn't that far away.
ghey
It's gay? Well that's the reason I want a huge "game over!" when shit happens. :D
Quote from: Puks on Dec 24, 2009, 01:07:41 AM
It's gay? Well that's the reason I want a huge "game over!" when shit happens. :D
When shit hits the fan I want the game to literally get mad at me.
*Games punches him in the face
Cool preview, I think if "more in the New Year" means just the generalization of 2010.
Quote from: Sylizar on Dec 24, 2009, 03:07:48 AM
*Games punches him in the face
Cool preview, I think if "more in the New Year" means just the generalization of 2010.
Probably mostly January/Early February since thats gonna me the time of release.
"After finally making a break and finding a working elevator, it's to the sewers for a pursuit that's reminiscent of the final act of Alien 3, with flares again used to light the way as the player scrambles to safety. It's nowhere to be found, however – at the close of the chapter an Alien strikes the player down, dragging them away and leaving us with questions – such as whether the player will take on the role of another Marine for the remaining five chapters - that Rebellion isn't willing to answer just yet."
Can't want to see that sequence in game.
That scene can be seen at the end of the newest trailer I believe, I can't wait... there's so many great games coming out, but this one truly has a special place reserved..
Quote from: Drone23 on Dec 24, 2009, 10:07:30 AM
That scene can be seen at the end of the newest trailer I believe, I can't wait... there's so many great games coming out, but this one truly has a special place reserved..
Yah when you see the Marines hands try to grab hold of something so he is not pulled off. I hope that part is scary as hell.
Quote from: Brother on Dec 23, 2009, 09:03:21 PM
It didn't say the marine got facehugged.
I know, that was my prediction. Because, alien will probably take him to the place with egg, for the facehugg.
The way i see it, after that you have a three scenarios.
1)In process of being dragged by alien (or when you are cocooned), you will be saved by fellow marines, thus continuing playing, with same guy.
2)You will be killed, and start playing with different character.
3) You will get infected, but you will found about solution against chestbursting
I seriously hope that it's 2)
2 and 3 sux monkey nuts. Tequila is the solution.
Quote from: Brother on Dec 24, 2009, 10:41:18 PM
2 and 3 sux monkey nuts. Tequila is the solution.
Didn't Tequilla Die? Preview said you got picked off one by one until the player was all that was left
Quote from: Brother on Dec 24, 2009, 10:41:18 PM
Tequila is the solution.
Got a problem? Tequila.
Got two problems? Vodka.
Got three problems? Battery acid.
I suspect that the player Predator might have something to do with it. Not necessarily in killing the specific Alien, but causing a chain of events that allow the Marine to free himself.
Quote from: MadassAlex on Dec 24, 2009, 11:58:09 PM
I suspect that the player Predator might have something to do with it. Not necessarily in killing the specific Alien, but causing a chain of events that allow the Marine to free himself.
[/quote]Maybe the predator saves you, and you become best of buds from there on out? I know how you would all love that lol.
Quote from: l3awl3ag on Dec 25, 2009, 04:16:29 AM
Quote from: MadassAlex on Dec 24, 2009, 11:58:09 PM
I suspect that the player Predator might have something to do with it. Not necessarily in killing the specific Alien, but causing a chain of events that allow the Marine to free himself.
Maybe the predator saves you, and you become best of buds from there on out? I know how you would all love that lol.
[/quote]
Perhaps even a romance subplot...
Quote from: Big Head Ninja on Dec 25, 2009, 04:20:58 AMPerhaps even a romance subplot...
Yeah, everybody loves mandibles. We can only hope..
You're gonna get dragged off cut to black screen, screen fades back in your stuck to a wall, you look around for a bit until you start getting these waves of pain indicated on screen, your heart races then a chestburster comes ripping out you're characters chest, end of Marine campaign..
Quote from: Drone23 on Dec 25, 2009, 09:39:45 AM
You're gonna get dragged off cut to black screen, screen fades back in your stuck to a wall, you look around for a bit until you start getting these waves of pain indicated on screen, your heart races then a chestburster comes ripping out you're characters chest, end of Marine campaign..
I'd expect a more climactic ending for the Marine campaign.
But the chestburster part, maybe a nightmare sequence before you get rescued?
Would be cool if they had a scene like AvP1 your stuck to a wall with a egg opening up in front of you, as it slowly opens you start mashing a button to start grabbing for you're pistol, if done right you get it out and fire just as or before it leaps, if you're to slow it gets ya ;D
Quote from: Drone23 on Dec 25, 2009, 10:00:30 AM
Would be cool if they had a scene like AvP1 your stuck to a wall with a egg opening up in front of you, as it slowly opens you start mashing a button to start grabbing for you're pistol, if done right you get it out and fire just as or before it leaps, if you're to slow it gets ya ;D
With AvP1 you mean the AvP movie?
Must see it again sometime, I don't remember that scene.
Yea the movie, I look back on AvP1 now and see it wasn't that horrible of a movie, it did not live up to its standards that's a fact, but it was at least entertaining to an extent, and at least wasn't as bad as the sequel.. but it still was nothing comparable to it's predecessor's...
Quote from: Drone23 on Dec 25, 2009, 10:00:30 AM
Would be cool if they had a scene like AvP1 your stuck to a wall with a egg opening up in front of you, as it slowly opens you start mashing a button to start grabbing for you're pistol, if done right you get it out and fire just as or before it leaps, if you're to slow it gets ya ;D
cue 20 threads about how QTE`s spoil the universe....
http://translate.google.com/translate?js=y&prev=_t&hl=pl&ie=UTF-8&layout=1&eotf=1&u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.gram.pl%2Fart_9w7eHe1_Aliens_vs_Predator_betatest.html&sl=pl&tl=en
Polish Beta Review
T4p. I saw it too but couldn't understand a thing from the translator :(.
Quote from: ikarop on Dec 28, 2009, 06:28:27 PM
I saw it too but couldn't understand a thing from the translator :(.
Same. Hard to read.
Well, you guys dont miss much :p They are writing about how awesome the game is and stuff like that. There is only one thing that matters. According to gram.pl Aliens can spit acid, but im not sure if they really know what they are talking about ^^ Oh and they ware playing "WORK IN PROGRESS" version of the game.
Pah, it was easy to understand. Interesting read.
the MP video confirms option to turn off Balance mode, so this means there will be a more realistic
version of Multiplayer we can play! ;D
I'd wager that's team balance.
The game is plenty "realistic" already - at least as realistic as a game can be with a pussy-faced space redneck and a cock-headed cosmic locust.
Quote from: affinity on Dec 28, 2009, 11:44:32 PM
the MP video confirms option to turn off Balance mode, so this means there will be a more realistic
version of Multiplayer we can play! ;D
uh... no.
That is even teams.
::)
Quote from: kvon17 on Dec 29, 2009, 12:42:26 AM
Quote from: affinity on Dec 28, 2009, 11:44:32 PM
the MP video confirms option to turn off Balance mode, so this means there will be a more realistic
version of Multiplayer we can play! ;D
uh... no.
That is even teams.
::)
IT IS???!!?!? o___________o
Aw lol. I thought there was gonna be a hardcore mode built in there for authentic immersion fans. XD
oh well it will still kick ass.
There should still be an option for the deathmatch types to restrict species per team
(so marines, aliens and predators can't be on the same team.)
yah there is Species balancing. I think.
Quote from: Chris!(($$))! on Dec 29, 2009, 02:19:49 AM
yah there is Species balancing. I think.
Meaning "same number of each species per team" because you can play as mixed teams.
there was also team balancing meaning "same number of players per team"
No. There isn't going to be a "Hardcore" mode as you put it. Because it would be stupid to build a broken game.
QuoteWhen we use these two buttons at the same time, from the clutches of the beast will create a kind of armor that will protect them from attacks by enemies.
Easily my favourite preview now.
"The clutches of the beast will create a kind of armour".
Hells yeah.
QuoteThere is a flexible and lustrous. Mniam! Yum!
:D
there should be option to prevent mixed teams, otherwise this is too casual and sloppy. It would feel
like Starcraft alliances between Terran and Zerg, but worse.
Mixed teams is just one game mode. There's species deathmatch and free-for-all deathmatch, too.
oh whew thanks, that saves it.
Just read in the blog of the editor of the largest gaming magazine in Sweden that they had received the review code for AvP last week. When asked he stated he was not at liberty to disclose anything about the game at this time but if he would use two words it would be "not impressed". Bummer.
Quote from: Choirboy on Dec 29, 2009, 10:15:48 AM
Just read in the blog of the editor of the largest gaming magazine in Sweden that they had received the review code for AvP last week. When asked he stated he was not at liberty to disclose anything about the game at this time but if he would use two words it would be "not impressed". Bummer.
:'(
review code = final version of the game, i e not a preview but the finished game
Quote from: Choirboy on Dec 29, 2009, 10:38:34 AM
review code = final version of the game, i e not a preview but the finished game
I realy cant believe its the final version i dont think they went gold already
http://www.gamereactor.se/blog/petter/#154598
Roughly translated:
"I can report that we have received Mass Effect 2, AvP... all of which are to be tested for the upcoming jan/feb issue."
Now that i read it more carefully it only states specifically that its the review code for ME2, but i assume that tested in this case means reviewed.
Odd that AvP would be unimpressive, given the almost universally positive reaction to the opening sections of the game.
I thought so to but he is really picky and it's not stated that he will be reviewing it personally. If it's anything like the original I know I will like it, and thats all that matters ;)
I'm prepared for this game to be less than perfect to say but a little, but I think it'll garner some illegitimate criticism due to the poor movies behind it - in fact, it already has.
Quote from: MadassAlex on Dec 29, 2009, 02:12:18 PM
I'm prepared for this game to be less than perfect to say but a little, but I think it'll garner some illegitimate criticism due to the poor movies behind it - in fact, it already has.
I have to agree there. I have heard many things about this game that really upset me. But I think all around it will be a fun AvP game and a good sequel to the last two games. I know this game will not be near perfect because you cannot achieve perfect with AvP. And the AvP movies demolished any chance of anything AVP to get anywhere near perfect but its still Aliens and Predators and its the first Alien/Pred game to come out on this gen of consoles and PCs so it should be very good in at least one way.
Quote from: MadassAlex on Dec 29, 2009, 02:12:18 PM
I'm prepared for this game to be less than perfect to say but a little, but I think it'll garner some illegitimate criticism due to the poor movies behind it - in fact, it already has.
That and the two less than stellar games that Rebellion released this year.
They did not release them, they developed them. There is a big difference :) I saw nothing wrong with the release of those games, but they were quite poorly developed. However, we know that AvP has been in production since even before Shellshock 2 was started (from what I know, I could be wrong, but not so far off). It is not like they will all of the suddent introduce bad design decisions, poor programming and flawed graphics. If you LIKE what you have seen so far, then you'll like the game. If you do NOT like what you see, then you will most likely not like the game, it is as simple as that.
AvP is - or will very soon be - in beta stage, which means that all the functionality is there. It just needs to be fine-tuned and all the bugs need to be ironed out. It will go through lots and lots of testing to make sure it is stable. I am sure that even Shellshock 2 went under the testers' scalpels, and games looking ugly is never ever considered a bug. Once in beta stage, no new functionality is added (in 99.5% of all cases, some people just don't know when to stop though...). So what we see now will be in the game. It might be finely adjusted and tuned, but the execution should be identical.
I tihnk it'll go gold 2-3 weeks before release. That's when they send a gold master to the publisher, which is the final version they send before they start producing mass-copies, boxes, manuals etc. Some publishers can make all that crap in 1-2 weeks prior to release though, but it is not that common.
And how can you claim that the game will be crap just because the movies were? These are different mediums, different methods of achieving the final product and with games you see what you are doing as you progress through the development phases. With movies, you don't quite get the whole picture from watching "dailies", only the director has it in his own mind. IMO, storyboards does not really help anyone than the director. My 0.50 SEK, the AvP movies were watchable, had their kinks (just like all the other movies, in both franchises) but they are not crap.
*blip*
Quote from: Eldritch on Dec 29, 2009, 08:53:44 PM
They did not release them, they developed them.
That may be true, but it seems that Rebellion have received most of the blame that perhaps the publisher or previous developer should have.
I don't think anyone is claiming that the game will be bad because the movies were or that rebellion developed two poorly reviewed titles. We're saying that the game might come under false scrutiny due to those factors.
Read Chris's post
Quote from: Corporal Hicks on Dec 29, 2009, 09:14:22 PM
Read Chris's post
Well I guess that makes him an example of someone who might falsely scrutinize because of the movies :)
Although not entirely to his fault because lets face it, the AVP series has been handled poorly by various forms of entertainment over the years. With the good being drastically outweighed by the disappointing and sometimes just plain terrible.
This game does show a lot of potential even if it doesn't please everyone.
to begin with, only fools would judge this game based on the reaction from the AvP movies. or other Rebellion games.
They should just judge it on its own merits.
AvP is taking all over the world. It seems like now it's featuring on the cover of Turkey's best-selling games magazine.
(https://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.level.com.tr%2Fimages%2Flevelicerik%2F156%2Fkapak.jpg&hash=b6b328eaf8452ad09dca1642c33b55d8e2fe576e)
good :)
the more attention it gets the better ^^
Indeed.
Till now almost every person has heard about new AvP xD.
Its good how they are trying to advertise this game so much. And if they are advertising it so much, well, then the game is promising for sure. They wouldnt advertising it for no reason.
Quote from: tigerija on Dec 30, 2009, 01:30:11 PM
Till now almost every person has heard about new AvP xD.
Its good how they are trying to advertise this game so much. And if they are advertising it so much, well, then the game is promising for sure. They wouldnt advertising it for no reason.
Sure they would, it's called buying a cover story/exclusive and publishers do it all the time to advertise their games. Even if a game is mediocre it still gets cover stories from major publications. (See Assassin's Creed, Avatar, Force Unleashed, etc.) This is especially done if the game is expensive as the company tries to recoup their dev costs as much as they can by performing an advertising blitz to convince the masses that they should purchase the said product. If they can generate enough hype around the product they don't necessarily have to have a good game to meet sales expectations.
yeah look at Gears of War. that piece of **** didn't deserve the hype and sales behind it but marketing convinced the majority of idiots that its the best game they could ever play. Same with the Fable games
and CoD games.
Same as you convincing your friends that they should definitely get AvP when you have no idea how good it will be.
Fable 2 is good.
CoD2 is good. I dont like other CoD games... they just dont stay with classic. Same is happening with Medal of Honor. Thankfully Heroes of Stalingrad RO is comming.
Quote from: newbeing on Dec 29, 2009, 09:24:02 PM
Quote from: Corporal Hicks on Dec 29, 2009, 09:14:22 PM
Read Chris's post
Well I guess that makes him an example of someone who might falsely scrutinize because of the movies :)
Although not entirely to his fault because lets face it, the AVP series has been handled poorly by various forms of entertainment over the years. With the good being drastically outweighed by the disappointing and sometimes just plain terrible.
This game does show a lot of potential even if it doesn't please everyone.
I am not doing that though. What I am saying is a fact. AvP will never be able to achieve as much as it could have because of the movies ruining so much. AvP will always have to be extra careful now to do good. One of the reasons because so many people will say things like, It better not be like those movies, It better not do this that the AvP movies did, or the AvP movies sucked so this will too.
This is why anyone making something new for AvP will have to be careful because if there is too much "AvP Movie Nonsense" then it will get bashed and burned.
I see the guys at Rebellion did put in AvP wave sounds for the Pred ( switching vision modes, plasma caster.. ). That does not hurt at all here, although would be cool to have the chance of making micro-mods for the general pleasure in the future.
On the AvP movies.. well; I did enjoy the movies although I catched several inconsistences that, basically, made me laugh. Nevertheless I never felt upset because of them. :)
Violated, after the second AvP.
Affinty...Just...no
Quote from: Sylizar on Dec 31, 2009, 12:08:14 AM
Affinty...Just...no
Lol no offense affinity but I second this. I think Gears of war is a great game, and I say that knowing full well how much I suck at it.
I liked fable too. I'm not really a fan of CoD, but it must be doing something right.. Just not my type of game.
CoD has great multiplayer but AvP2's multi was better and more fun. I hope that this next game will be more fun than AvP2 because it's looking spectacular.
Maps are the most important part for the MP, imo.
I hope that not every map will have an open enviroment like this ruin map in the MP video demos.
There where those two great Evac maps in AvP2: Auriga and Verloc.
Much "greater" custom evac maps, much better than any standard map that Monolith and Sierra ever made. If we were left to play evac with only the standard maps...
Quote from: l3awl3ag on Dec 31, 2009, 12:14:34 AM
Quote from: Sylizar on Dec 31, 2009, 12:08:14 AM
Affinty...Just...no
Lol no offense affinity but I second this. I think Gears of war is a great game, and I say that knowing full well how much I suck at it.
I liked fable too. I'm not really a fan of CoD, but it must be doing something right.. Just not my type of game.
Well, sure they produce quality products.
What they do right is appeal to the masses, making a quality AAA title that suits most action oriented people, sadly they've stopped caring for what the community thinks since Grant Collier left. Bobby Kotich at Activision is also doing a tremendous job being just about the biggest idiot ever..
I for once enjoy quality titles sure, as long as it appeals to me such as Aliens , BFBC, previous cod games etc. I also enjoy simulators a lot especially DCS, IL2 series and i mean they are doing things right as well, and produce real quality titles, just for niched market.
Sometimes the number of sales doesn't have to equal quality. It depends who and what you aim for. I'd be more than glad to see this game become more popular than MW2 , but to be honest i doubt it, however i certainly think it will be a better game, at least in my eyes.
Whoa, that makes Aliens Colonial Marines the prequel to Aliens vs. Predator, since it's after Alien 3, but before AVP. AVP being the latest in the timeline! EPIC!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
http://www.gamestop.com/Browse/ArticleViewer.aspx?Product_ID=74649&articleid=71774
"TJ: Our game story takes place about 30 years after the events of the movie Alien 3, so technology has moved on a little further in that time. Fans can expect to see some interesting twists to the iconic weaponry from the movies. It's a completely new story to the Aliens and Predator universes but obviously very much inspired and in keeping with the different stories in the movies and Dark Horse comic books. There is a huge volume of material for the Aliens and Predator universe out there, and we have strived to make sure that our story remains consistent with the established lore.
We're all huge fans of the Aliens and Predator universe, and while we're steering clear of obvious direct quotes from the movies, the game features a number of references that fans should delight in spotting. Though they certainly won't distract from the experience for the uninitiated. "
Well technically, Alien: Resurrection is the latest in the timeline. And I'm pretty sure it's well known already that the game takes place 30 years after 3.
'Resurrection'? What's that movie?
oh yeah that's right A:R was like 200 years after. or maybe 500 years. Anyway yeah this explains why the
Colonial Marines equipment looks slightly different.
Quote from: MadassAlex on Jan 01, 2010, 04:32:22 AM
'Resurrection'? What's that movie?
Yeah, I know everyone would like to leave that behind, but at least its 200 years away from anything else in the series :P
Resurrection, Requiem, Rocky...
ah these boards are a little slow. where is everybody! roarrrr!
Holidays can explain it. In my opinion I see each of the three franchises as their own canon. So if AvP is good enough I might include it in each. I am hoping A:CM will be good enough to consider it canon for after ALIENS and ALIEN 3. For Predators canon, we may have to wait and see how the new movies comes along for all we know it could turn everything that was made for AvP3 wrong. Lets just hope that does not happen.
Perhaps is it being time for a couple more of cool screen shots? :)
By the way, little feedback on the last screen shot Ikarop kindly posted on here, huh?. I liked the textures and the light settings of it. Just to remind you guys of that. ;)
^ Lmao, you can only ask for soo much. The game releases in a month and a half...
ah soooooooooo close! we been waiting 10 years!
Quote from: affinity on Jan 03, 2010, 12:35:38 PM
ah soooooooooo close! we been waiting 10 years!
AvP2 never existed? (https://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.ohmb.net%2Fimages%2Fsmilies%2Fbastard.gif&hash=26d3e226baf6aa837f047fd24c53b1cc15456ad4)
Quote from: XenoVC on Jan 03, 2010, 07:29:05 PM
Quote from: affinity on Jan 03, 2010, 12:35:38 PM
ah soooooooooo close! we been waiting 10 years!
AvP2 never existed? http://www.ohmb.net/images/smilies/bastard.gif
not for me, my PC couldn't handle it. the MP demo was fun despite being almost unplayable.
Do you plan on getting AvP3 for PC, if so you can play AvP2? I mean I think AvP2 was not a very demanding game in the first place.
Quote from: Chris!(($$))! on Jan 04, 2010, 03:31:06 AM
Do you plan on getting AvP3 for PC, if so you can play AvP2? I mean I think AvP2 was not a very demanding game in the first place.
It was a demanding game if your comp hardware was a outdated compaq presario given as a gift from a college student that only runs AVP/Gold perfectly.
Getting AVP3 for PS3.
I am really not a PC gamer, I stopped playing any games on PC after the era of AVP Gold.
Brings Ikarop a nice Human/pred host for his Hive and prise him
are there any new infos ? im dying... i need my new year avp news fix ;D
Quote from: AMC_Duke on Jan 04, 2010, 09:41:16 AM
Brings Ikarop a nice Human/pred host for his Hive and prise him
are there any new infos ? im dying... i need my new year avp news fix ;D
Guess we'll see new info on Friday as the mp event takes place.
Quote from: AMC_Duke on Jan 04, 2010, 09:41:16 AM
Brings Ikarop a nice Human/pred host for his Hive and prise him
are there any new infos ? im dying... i need my new year avp news fix ;D
You guys are amusing sometimes. The game comes out in a little more than a month, you dont want to spoil the whole thing do you?
Quote from: RidgeTop on Jan 04, 2010, 11:54:36 AM
Quote from: AMC_Duke on Jan 04, 2010, 09:41:16 AM
Brings Ikarop a nice Human/pred host for his Hive and prise him
are there any new infos ? im dying... i need my new year avp news fix ;D
You guys are amusing sometimes. The game comes out in a little more than a month, you dont want to spoil the whole thing do you?
I would watch the entire sp in a video if its released ;)
Quote from: AMC_Duke on Jan 04, 2010, 12:19:33 PM
Quote from: RidgeTop on Jan 04, 2010, 11:54:36 AM
Quote from: AMC_Duke on Jan 04, 2010, 09:41:16 AM
Brings Ikarop a nice Human/pred host for his Hive and prise him
are there any new infos ? im dying... i need my new year avp news fix ;D
You guys are amusing sometimes. The game comes out in a little more than a month, you dont want to spoil the whole thing do you?
I would watch the entire sp in a video if its released ;)
I guess thats a yes then.
this is one of the few games I would not watch streams/videos of the campaigns before playing them.
best to save the surprise.
Quote from: affinity on Jan 04, 2010, 02:54:43 PM
this is one of the few games I would not watch streams/videos of the campaigns before playing them.
best to save the surprise.
I agree with not wanting to spoil campaign, but man I need some new previews or a demo or something.
If I found out they were releasing a demo sometime in the next couple weeks I would trade in my copy of Modern Warfare 2 tomorrow. Not even kidding.
I can wait one more month. :)
Ya I cant wait either but it sucks that they havent started to market it yet like BioShock is doing now which AVP and BioShock areonly like a lil over a week apart in release dates
I am sure they will soon. Its only the start of January. They will probably just put the trailers we have already seen on TV and they said they would eventually release a demo so maybe that will come soon.
At the earliest I would say january 25th. If you think about it why would they release the game then make one post release. They could by all means but the people who were gonna buy it already have gone out and bought it. I hope to god more promo is done in Febuary..like a @#$% storm. Hopefully a add on tv as well. Even better SEGA should sponsor avp during ufc 109 febuary 6th...that would work great!!! Anyeays demo should come this month or early next month if indeed one is coming. It doesn't matter to me though, im buying it regardless.
saw this post at gametrailers. Not sure what magazine it is from, but it says there will be 18 multiplayer maps available in the final game.
http://forums.gametrailers.com/thread/avp-to-ship-with-18-multiplaye/994238
Quote from: newbeing on Jan 05, 2010, 04:26:55 AM
saw this post at gametrailers. Not sure what magazine it is from, but it says there will be 18 multiplayer maps available in the final game.
http://forums.gametrailers.com/thread/avp-to-ship-with-18-multiplaye/994238
Yep, they took it from here. I posted it months ago here (http://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/index.php?topic=26513.msg566669#msg566669), here(PCGZine) (http://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/index.php?topic=27037.0) and finally here (http://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/index.php?topic=23913.msg594090#msg594090).
ah thanks. Musta missed it. 18 levels seems pretty impressive. Though I feel some are probably exclusive to certain modes.
Anyone think there is a chance they are getting it mixed up with the amount of max amount of players in multiplayer?
I don't think so Chris, Ikarop would've mentioned something. And 18 maps sounds good.
Nah, gametrailers doesn't usually mess up like that.
I was just wondering what does gone gold mean?
I heard a few people comment on it going gold but i don't understand!!!
Secondly, Can someone describe to me the smart gun. I think i've seen it in films but is it motion sensitive?
Anyone know??
Thanks in advance.
Gone gold means that the developer has sent the gold master copy to the publisher for printing at their printing partner.
or
"no more gold to put into this so it's time to make some gold of it"
Just quasi-kidding :P
Another multiplayer preview at Truegameheadz.com (http://www.truegameheadz.com/blogheadz/aliens-vs-predator-multiplayer-preview-aliens-ftw/). The guy seems happy indeed.
Why is he saying that all three species have trophy kills?
It was probably mistaken with the counter-finishing moves.
So the counter-finishing moves are deadly ? HELL YEAH!
They give you a few very useful seconds to do something about the bad guys.
so basically Marines have a custom real-time finisher since countering stuns the enemy long enough. You can finish them with your Pulse Rifle, Flamethrower, Smartgun, etc.
Then if you fail at trophy killing, you are as good as dead, right ?
Quote from: yaji on Jan 05, 2010, 11:31:12 PM
Then if you fail at trophy killing, you are as good as dead, right ?
You should be. If you are not good at trophy killing then do you deserve to survive much longer.
Meh, marines countering preds and aliens is a retarded idea, but what can I do..
^ Not really..its all about balance. Granted a counter won't last long..but at least its enough to give you some breahting room (which is how I look at it) Nothing to really finish another species just something to give you another chance to blast it to hell.
The balance should dictate that if an Alien or Predator gets in your face, you die.
So, the marine should literally get butt @#$%ed? I don't see it as abig deal if give na chance for some type of counter menover for breathing room even just once is great news. However, if you feel the marine players should get shafted and butt @#$%ed..thats on you.
A human countering aliens and preds in melee is retarded and unnecessary. Period.
F*ck balance, kicking off aliens with your foot is retarded. Those guys eat steel doors for breakfast!
Quotejust something to give you another chance
Fail. Death. Load saved game or respawn. That's what should happen. To me, it's just another "upgrade" to make things easier, so n00bs don't get pissed off too much if they die.
The marine isn't f**ked unless he keeps the ultimate killing machines at a distance. Those pulse rifles deliver some.
The goal as a Marine is to not let them close to you. Stay in a group or with the most narrow room and back to the wall and you should be good. Just hope they don't come in groups too.
And that's what being a USCM is all about.
Quote from: Puks on Jan 06, 2010, 02:47:21 AM
And that's what being a USCM is all about.
In the ALIENS universe. YES staying alive because you know you are now the bottom of the food chain.
Quote from: dude63 on Jan 06, 2010, 02:37:11 AM
So, the marine should literally get butt @#$%ed? I don't see it as abig deal if give na chance for some type of counter menover for breathing room even just once is great news. However, if you feel the marine players should get shafted and butt @#$%ed..thats on you.
The Marine player's job is to prevent Aliens and Predators from closing the gap. If you fail to do that, you should be punished. It's not about 'another chance', it's about punishing the Marine for messing up.
I understand this..however when in a mode like deathmatch or team deathmatch. Its obvious people won't work as a team. Theres certain games where they will..but most will probably run around aimlessly. While I whole heartedly agree on closing the gap and not letting them get close. Its just something nice to have. Especially when your so out numbered. The sp campaign will mostly be you by yourself. Having a counter or gtf off me counter will be nice to have. The other species have some sort of counter..why not the marine? Its not a kill move by any means. Also having this said counter doesn't mean its always going to work.
I don't think its retarded even if you do..and odds are the marine might survive these counters..so whats the big deal? Its kind of hard to keep them at a distance when the marine all he has is a pulse rifle and a motion tracker. While it works great..in game modes where people are running around aimlessly..not cooperating. Its gonna be hard to even make a dent. Its just something for balance. I mean in aliens we see whats her name pin a alien against a wall. Granted it was wounded..but what do you think the aliens in this game will be when you shoot them acouple times..wounded. You also don't even HAVE to counter if you don't want to. Its just a option each species has. The combat system is mainly a rock paper scissors combat system. The marine won't be engaging in these said melee encounters. The will be too busy spewing lead. Its also evident in the mp videos..that..counters didn't do crap to help the marines.
In the end I agree. Either way is fine by me..btu thats just me. I won't be butt hurt with it in or with it out.
QuoteWhile I whole heartedly agree on closing the gap and not letting them get close. Its just something nice to have. Especially when your so out numbered. The sp campaign will mostly be you by yourself. Having a counter or gtf off me counter will be nice to have. The other species have some sort of counter..why not the marine?
This feature was absent in both previous games and it worked just fine.
Quoteall he has is a pulse rifle and a motion tracker
With explosive-tipped standard caseless light armour piercing rounds. And shotguns, smart guns, miniguns, flamethrowers, SADARS and sniper rifles.
QuoteI mean in aliens we see whats her name pin a alien against a wall.
Vasquez. And she wasn't pinning the alien against the wall, but pushing it to the ground - big difference.
Quotecounters didn't do crap to help the marines.
So it's retarded, redundant and ineffective. Awesome game feature!
Woah my god roids. I didn't go all out like that. My point is..personally to me..its okay. I don't care. It doesn't afect me. If its there people will use it..but its not game breaking by any means. Its also just..a..game. Im sure the game will nail the same atmosphere as its predecessors (messed that up) and it will be one heck of a game. However, when you talk of "teamwork" and "co-operation" its kind of hard to do this on consoles when..most people just run around aimlessly and the ones who actually want to do stuff tactical..the tards on their team mess it up.
It will be a little bit before the people who actually want to experience the game for what it is show up. Granted fans will pick it up..but casuals will as well and..they will run n' gun like the next guy..making youtube videos on how the game is hard. Once these filler gamers are out then the multiplayer will shine. Until then its goin to be a cluster @#$% of stupidity.
Flashpoint dragon rising was the same way until everybody went back to cod and left it alone. Now the tactical players play it now and the game is great! Of course..once and awhile you do get the little kid who obviously doesn't know what a "map" is. "Idon't know where my objectives are..wheres the enemies!!??"..well did you try your map?
Vasquez still wreslted the Alien and pinned it to the ground. When I was talking of having just the pr and mt I was talking of initial multiplayer set up. I know that is all availible. I don't mind the counter feature..I don't care if its in or if its not..like I said I won't be butt hurt over a feature thats there that I don't have to use if I don't want to. The sp marine campagin is ment to be atmosphereic and freightening the last thing your gonna worry aobut is countering aliens. Yes the feature may be useless to a certain degree..but its there. Im sure it will provide some good fp animations. Also you ever think the alien standing over the marine might be a cutscene?
The counter we have seen on the pred is a melee attack boucning it back..but..marine got owned..gave him breathing room though. Even though he was splurting bullets hitting the predator and running away in a corner..the predator leaped at him dragon ball terminator style..and cut his head off.
Just to state the obvious but puks of course the marine counter feature wasnt in the previous games because the alien and pred could not latch onto you in both previous games. This is why it worked fine
I am quitting this discussion, because if I continued, I'd probably end up ranting about how trophy kills (stealth kills, n00b kills, whatever you call em..) would never be in the game, if it was PC exclusive. That stuff came from consoles.
Oh my, I did it again. Another console hate post. :D
How is stealth kills or trophy kills not be in the game if it was pc exclusive..remember its Rebellion. the ywould be the developer anyway. The trophy kills fit the universe and look hella awesome..but I guess things can't be awesome anymore..they have to please the pc community. Also stealth kills never existed before consoles? lmao!
I don't hate pc. I have some pc games..but I also have a console. Hating on any console pc or system maker is stupid beyond itself. If you truly are in disgust..you don't have to buy. You can't please everyone...even if Rebellion changed everything that was talked of..somebody won't be happy. Im just glad a game like this is coming out because its long overdue. Im also glad Rebellion was given the chance to make a proper next gen game. Not a rushed game with a minimal budget and reluctant publishers. Just be happy man, there is going to be things you like and things you don't like. Im sure yo uwill enjoy the game regardless..if not you can always buy modern warefare 2... :D
*stoping discussion as well. I presented my point..as well as you have presented yours. If you want to continue..I challenge you in MORTAL KOMBAT!!!!!*
Not disgusted at all - I will enjoy it, don't worry, just would've enjoyed it more if some things were made right in my eyes. And believe me - it wouldn't be in a PC exclusive title - fast button mashing sequences are a console thingy. Don't get me even started on Call of Duty - most overrated hyper-hyped game franchise ever (maybe Halo tops it). Never played. Never will.
I accept your challenge! Let the battle commence!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wJ0fFgU22ls
Love that track. :)
Edit: Don't get me wrong. Consoles are cool. I even had a PS one ages ago. Great for fight games, third person action games, arcade games, race games, etc., but I will always be a hating, bitching, butthurt douche when it comes to "slight" alterations in multiplatform FPS titles for the sake of console players. I'm fine with them as long as they don't f**k up the PC version too much.
Call of Duty is an awesome series. I've been playing since the first game, and I can tell you right now that the alterations made for the consoles' sake haven't detracted from the gameplay at all until MW2. CoD1, 2 and 4 are pure gold.
As for THIS game:
I reiterate that the Marines shouldn't be able to counter Alien attacks at the very least. The Predator has its own ranged weapons, but the Alien only has its claws, tail and inner jaw, so being able to counter it at the only distance it's effective at is just plain dumb in terms of multiplayer. At least one consolation (hah!) is that standard heavy attacks can never, ever be blocked and have good distance.
It makes a bit more sense for Predators to have Marine-blockable attacks, but I still don't like it, especially since in MP they start with no ranged weapons.
As for the inclusion of trophy, execution and stealth kills: I welcome the addition. Nothing forces you to use them, and they look like a fun alternative to spamming the attack keys.
I agree with you for the most part there alex, but i feel that the marines counters will do him little good with regards to aliens due to their speed, a marine shouldn't have the time to counter you, by the time he has finally realized your even there it should be to late.
Marines tier-wise are going to be the worst of the 3 species. a counter block skill isn't gonna save them all the time.
Maybe it's another thing which separates them for the rest FPShooters. Huh?
Perhaps it's just me, but it looks like the Marines are the best damage-dealers in this game.
They're also the least efficient and most vulnerable, which are the hurdles you must overcome.
I dunno about best damage dealers, unless the distance is far enough, and your aim is good enough, a charging alien can kill the Marine 4 out of 5 times. same with Predator. Also, Predators have the advantage of stealth. so yeah Marines have the firepower, but their limited mobility and vunerabilities balance things out.
I think the best Aliens players and best team of aliens will probably have the most success in multiplayer.
Overall I think it will be very balanced, only those that fight solo, and not really like a smart survivor, will complain the game is unbalanced because they can't be unbeatable like Rambo.
Just because Marines have bullet spread and the other species have good stealth doesn't change the fact that the Marines have the highest damage potential.
The trick is learning to harness that most efficiently.
yeah but unless you can detect and hit/kill your target first, it won't mean much.
Looks like the humans have finishing moves as well:
"Yeah, the trophy kills... they're amazing. All three species have them, and if you can get up close enough to another player on the board, and hit X they're in for a big surprise. Each species' trophies kills were created with their specific physical characteristics and weaponry in mind, making them different no matter what you play as."
They don't.
only Aliens and Predators have trophy kills ;)
Quote from: affinity on Jan 06, 2010, 01:27:36 PM
Marines tier-wise are going to be the worst of the 3 species. a counter block skill isn't gonna save them all the time.
Exactly, my point in a nutshell. Just because you have it doesn't mean its a life saver. Yea marines don't have trophy kills. I remember someone asking on the gs forums if it would be possible for them to sneak up on a pred or alien. Im like..uhmm..let me think..no. Pred maybe..but alien definetly not.
As for marine counters. For a Alien it doesn't make sense to have a "counter" however at least a kick off if a Alien grabs you is efficient and welcome in my eyes. If a Alien lunges at you you shouldn't be able to melee it off..pred is different for alien no. Itsn ot game breaking though to me..personally not a big deal at least for me. Its just balance..and it doesn't mean having a so called counter will always work. The combat melee is a awesome thing for this game and they are using eveyr chance ot make it work. The Marine is still vulnerable..but..it has the firepower.
Puks, I agre quci ktime events are a console thing. However there have been awesome quick time events. God of war did it awesome like. Now its everywhere. When you say stealth kills, trophy kills, or whatever are a console thing..thats..not right.
The one-button-executions might be a console thing, however the stealth/trophy kills are just expressing the creatures cruelty and way of killing.
Quote from: Brother on Jan 06, 2010, 09:13:41 PM
The one-button-executions might be a console thing, however the stealth/trophy kills are just expressing the creatures cruelty and way of killing.
Aliens are beyond morality, good and evil... for them it's all about survival. On the other hand, Predators essentially are as bastards as bad asses.. lol. :D
Well me and from what I have read quite a few other fans AND Ridley Scott believe that the Xenos were either used strictly as killing machines or created as killing machines so swift fast, NON brutal kills would make sense.
A simple claw slash across the throat, a tail stab directly to the heart and a fast as lightning head bite. Thats what I want for Xeno Trophy Kills.
Quote from: Chris!(($$))! on Jan 07, 2010, 12:17:17 AM
Well me and from what I have read quite a few other fans AND Ridley Scott believe that the Xenos were either used strictly as killing machines or created as killing machines so swift fast, NON brutal kills would make sense.
A simple claw slash across the throat, a tail stab directly to the heart and a fast as lightning head bite. Thats what I want for Xeno Trophy Kills.
From the looks of it so far, that seems like what they are going for with the Alien's Trophy kills.
The only thing I disagree with that particular theory is we've seen Aliens in a bunch of situations where they take their time and play with their prey.
I think they played with their victims in every one of the movies. Other than the inner-mouth punches I can't think of a single kill that was even remotely quick. The one in Alien 3 was probably the worst for that, it was just eating people without even bothering to kill them first most of the time lol.
Another preview at PC GAMER Magazine. Hopefully someone can get a look at it
(https://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg693.imageshack.us%2Fimg693%2F8475%2Fpcgcvr.jpg&hash=4b884942e709b5dfc05126e35054ebf0330a32c9)
Quote from: Giger_Incubator on Jan 07, 2010, 01:17:16 AM
Quote from: Chris!(($$))! on Jan 07, 2010, 12:17:17 AM
Well me and from what I have read quite a few other fans AND Ridley Scott believe that the Xenos were either used strictly as killing machines or created as killing machines so swift fast, NON brutal kills would make sense.
A simple claw slash across the throat, a tail stab directly to the heart and a fast as lightning head bite. Thats what I want for Xeno Trophy Kills.
From the looks of it so far, that seems like what they are going for with the Alien's Trophy kills.
The only thing I disagree with that particular theory is we've seen Aliens in a bunch of situations where they take their time and play with their prey.
You are right and this is how I see it,
The Alien in ALIEN was studying the humans, perhaps because the two species have not encountered recently.
In ALIENS most of the kills were one move kills like I said. When Ferro was kill the Xeno sliced her throat it seemed.
In ALIEN 3 you could say "Spike" was much more aggressive and I think the film makers for that movie intended on him being like that.
In A:R the Xenos could have been f**ked up in any which way because of the cloning.
Off topic.. but were the Aliens in resurrection actually from the cloned queen? I know they came from the eggs shown near the start, but how did the queen lay them? There's either a massive plot hole or I'm missing something.
Quote from: l3awl3ag on Jan 07, 2010, 03:41:33 AM
Off topic.. but were the Aliens in resurrection actually from the cloned queen? I know they came from the eggs shown near the start, but how did the queen lay them? There's either a massive plot hole or I'm missing something.
Thats actually one thing that made sense. From what I understood of that movie anyways.
The Queen needed hosts to grow the egg sack and start laying eggs.
After they got hosts the Queen started to lay eggs but stopped some where along the film to switch over to the "everything we loved is now destroyed method" of reproduction because of the cloning and out came the Newborn.
Quote from: l3awl3ag on Jan 07, 2010, 01:49:59 AM
I think they played with their victims in every one of the movies. Other than the inner-mouth punches I can't think of a single kill that was even remotely quick. The one in Alien 3 was probably the worst for that, it was just eating people without even bothering to kill them first most of the time lol.
Maybe it just wanted a friend. Perhaps it didn't know any better...
Quote from: Chris!(($$))! on Jan 07, 2010, 04:46:08 AM
Thats actually one thing that made sense. From what I understood of that movie anyways.
The Queen needed hosts to grow the egg sack and start laying eggs.
After they got hosts the Queen started to lay eggs but stopped some where along the film to switch over to the "everything we loved is now destroyed method" of reproduction because of the cloning and out came the Newborn.
Where was that ever implied? The Queen can just start laying once mature.
i remember them already having the eggs when they got the hosts. so i guess the queen already laid them before the host even got there.
Why would the queen need hosts to grow the egg sack?
Quote from: Brother on Jan 07, 2010, 12:14:03 PM
Why would the queen need hosts to grow the egg sack?
that's what am wondering
Just Chris being crazy.
not unless it has somthing to do with predatory instinct that if there are no hosts why grow an eggs sack in place of no hosts? why not stay mobile until host are found then lay eggs? i have no idea where i'm going with this just woke up at 3 am still tired and cold. i guess this is me crazy thinking about instincts of fictional life form. hell its instincts could tell it to do the numa numa dance when its left alone for godsakes. *falls down a flight of stairs, trying to snap senses into his thoughts*
Nah, she is the queen, she must be able to lay eggs.
Ikarop, can we get one new picture?
It's Orthodox Christmas today! :)
Quote from: Dzuksi on Jan 07, 2010, 02:59:40 PM
Ikarop, can we get one new picture?
It's Orthodox Christmas today! :)
Sorry can't do that :D.
Quote from: ikarop on Jan 07, 2010, 04:43:56 PM
Sorry can't do that :D.
Well, that's OK, but you better give me some neat screenshot on my birthday (28 January).
Well merry Christmas to me. ;D
Quote from: Dzuksi on Jan 07, 2010, 04:52:19 PM
Quote from: ikarop on Jan 07, 2010, 04:43:56 PM
Sorry can't do that :D.
Well, that's OK, but you better give me some neat screenshot on my birthday (28 January).
Well merry Christmas to me. ;D
Its merry xmas for me 2, since im half russian :)
Quote from: ikarop on Jan 07, 2010, 04:43:56 PM
Sorry can't do that :D.
It's OK, for now this awesomely detailed preview will do. ;D
Hey i'm Bulgarian Orthodox so i guess its X-mas for me too. :D
Quote from: Corporal Hicks on Jan 07, 2010, 12:16:50 PM
Just Chris being crazy.
Before you start to ignorantly criticize, read what I said. From the movie they said they needed hosts. ::)
http://www.script-o-rama.com/movie_scripts/a/alien-resurrection-script-screenplay-whedon.html
QuotePEREZ
How soon before this one's ovulating?
WREN
Days.
PEREZ
Is that normal?
WREN
No way of knowing for sure, but I'd say it's accelerated.
(After a moment) We're going to need the supplies.
PEREZ
They're coming. Soon.
Okay. I just could not remember word for word. They said the Queen would start ovulating in a matter of days possibly accelerated then they say they are going to need the supplies (hosts).
Yes they NEED hosts to start breathing the aliens. It just means that they want to have the hosts ready for when she starts laying the eggs.
Quote from: Brother on Jan 08, 2010, 12:46:09 AM
Yes they NEED hosts to start breathing the aliens. It just means that they want to have the hosts ready for when she starts laying the eggs.
I know that now. :) I just did not remember it exactly. I don't really bother with trying to remember things from A:R.
But who fertilized the Queenie is the big question?! :o
Quote from: predalien27 on Jan 08, 2010, 02:12:47 AM
But who fertilized the Queenie is the big question?! :o
The Queen does not need to be fertilized. The Perfect Organism.
Next Gen reports the ESRB ratting summary for AvP.
QuoteThis is a first-person shooter in which players assume the role of one of three protagonists: a human marine, an Alien, or a Predator (alien-like, but with dreadlocks). Players find themselves in deep space, on the futuristic frontier of human colonization; they find themselves seeking out missing colonists (in the case of the marines), defending their queen and propagating the species (the Aliens), or protecting the secrets of a mysterious pyramid (the Predators). As a marine, players use machine guns, sniper rifles, pistols, flamethrowers, and explosives to shoot and kill hostile enemies; the combat is frenetic and the blood splatter is fantastical—green or acidic acid emitting from the creatures. The Alien and Predator attacks represent the most intense aspects of violence: wrist-blades are used to pierce through eyes, rip off heads; an Alien's inner mouth can smash through human skulls; a baby alien will burst out of the chest of a human host's body; heads and human spines are torn out (shown close-up) then gently caressed—red blood dripping from the spinal column. The game contains strong profanity (200 or so f**ks, around 175 sh*ts) uttered by angry marines; for example, "This sh*t ain't in my contract" and "F**k, f**k, f**k!" In one bar scene, players view a hologram of a pole dancer wearing a G-string and a bra (the scene accounts for the Suggestive Themes descriptor, not the Mature rating).
http://www.nextgn.com/2010/01/07/aliens-vs-predator-rated-mature-by-esrb-description-available/
Hmm .. the only thing I do dislike is the "bra" thing.
Quote from: The_Silencer on Jan 08, 2010, 04:08:42 AM
Hmm .. the only thing I do dislike is the "bra" thing.
:D ;)
wow 200 f words seams like way to much. i really dislike hearing that much cussing. i mean if it said the f word 10-20 times that be fine but 200. it seams like theyre using it as much as possible. also 175 s=words. i really hope theres an option to turn off the profanity.
Quote from: xboxgamer4life on Jan 08, 2010, 05:37:57 AM
wow 200 f words seams like way to much. i really dislike hearing that much cussing. i mean if it said the f word 10-20 times that be fine but 200. it seams like theyre using it as much as possible. also 175 s=words. i really hope theres an option to turn off the profanity.
Thats pretty tame considering usual military language.
This is through out the course of the campaign which comes to about 12-14 hours I believe about 5 hours for each campaign I think.
So I could see it being used that many times.
The movie Casino was only 3 hours and it had f**k said in it about 330 times.
That's absolutely normal given that you have got Aliens and Predators around, which are not very nice people. Military as Ridgetop has said above. If you get a transcription on the BSG reimagined show then you got thousands of "Fraks" ( f**ks ). I like it this way for the sake of the immersion factor. Shit!. f**k! :)
Quote from: predalien27 on Jan 08, 2010, 02:12:47 AM
But who fertilized the Queenie is the big question?! :o
Aliens have no king.
Aliens need no king.
Quote from: Chris!(($$))! on Jan 08, 2010, 12:47:03 AM
I know that now. :) I just did not remember it exactly. I don't really bother with trying to remember things from A:R.
Which makes me correctly criticizing you. Thannnkkk you. :)
Quote from: The Dude5000 on Jan 07, 2010, 10:55:09 PM
Hey i'm Bulgarian Orthodox so i guess its X-mas for me too. :D
Ur Bulgarian what? im Bulgarian too lol
u guys concerned about the music? I think its pretty simple. The music in the first avp game was rly scary very similar to the one in ALIENS. For me personally it made the game what it is.. its rly important for the atmosphere. Unfortunately in the trailers i didnt hear any like this..
Quote from: LARGE on Jan 08, 2010, 07:48:17 AM
Quote from: The Dude5000 on Jan 07, 2010, 10:55:09 PM
Hey i'm Bulgarian Orthodox so i guess its X-mas for me too. :D
Ur Bulgarian what? im Bulgarian too lol
u guys concerned about the music? I think its pretty simple. The music in the first avp game was rly scary very similar to the one in ALIENS. For me personally it made the game what it is.. its rly important for the atmosphere. Unfortunately in the trailers i didnt hear any like this..
Lets be buddies and go out drinking tonight!! lol
Topic, keep on it guys.
sorry
There is more f*cks that sh*ts? F*ck!
woah ???
Didn't Ikarop post an image of a magazine cover that will be showing AvP3.
Not really a preview but interesting nonetheless, AvP was chosen as the scariest upcoming game of 2010: http://www.nowgamer.com/features/530/2010-the-coming-years-scariest-games
Quote from: Some_Guy on Jan 09, 2010, 05:19:35 PM
Not really a preview but interesting nonetheless, AvP was chosen as the scariest upcoming game of 2010: http://www.nowgamer.com/features/530/2010-the-coming-years-scariest-games
Nice find ;D
SEGA sent a preview build of the game featuring the first levels to the press for review. Jan 15 is the date of the embargo so expect many previews by then.
nice, and just during my exams, it's as typical as it is awesome ;D
So now everyone except for the gamers themselves managed to test the game. :) I want duh DEMOZ. ;D
Quote from: Some_Guy on Jan 09, 2010, 05:19:35 PM
Not really a preview but interesting nonetheless, AvP was chosen as the scariest upcoming game of 2010: http://www.nowgamer.com/features/530/2010-the-coming-years-scariest-games (http://www.nowgamer.com/features/530/2010-the-coming-years-scariest-games)
OMG, marines are gonna have dark force powers in AvP!! . Shame on you Rebellion for not telling us on that before!! :(
(https://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.nowgamer.com%2Fstatic%2Fimages%2Ffeature%2F530%2F390_10234_bioshock.jpg%3Fi%3D1262953387&hash=0247006dafc2931e702fedf621cf746e0384a789)
;D
Quote from: Brother on Jan 05, 2010, 10:44:03 AM
I don't think so Chris, Ikarop would've mentioned something. And 18 maps sounds good.
Sorry I didn't mention it before. I had to be sure it was OK to say it.
The article is wrong, it mixed up with the max amount of players in the multiplayer. The game comes with 8 multiplayer maps, you can get 4 more via DLC.
jeeze. Some of these journalists downright suck at gathering the correct info. 12 maps in total aint nothing to spit at either.
Quote from: ikarop on Jan 10, 2010, 12:05:37 AM
Quote from: Brother on Jan 05, 2010, 10:44:03 AM
I don't think so Chris, Ikarop would've mentioned something. And 18 maps sounds good.
Sorry I didn't mention it before. I had to be sure it was OK to say it.
The article is wrong, it mixed up with the max amount of players in the multiplayer. The game comes with 8 multiplayer maps, you can get 4 more via DLC.
12 maps with 18 players support !!!! YES!!!! that is great news! sure beats Uncharted 2's 7 tiny maps with only 10 player limit.
8 is better than 7. 18 sounded too good to be true, let's hope we reach that number and go far beyond it in the future.
8 maps ? are the survivor mode maps saperate or does they count in the multiplayer maps ? ???
Probably the same.
http://www.truegameheadz.com/blogheadz/aliens-vs-predator-multiplayer-preview-aliens-ftw/
trophy kills for all 3 species? false...
even though i did suggest that the marine should have a curbstomp...
I think these articles might be getting trophy kills mixed up with melee attacks.
Yes, this was explained when the article was first posted.
Exactly. Please look at the answers on the previous pages.
8 maps? seriously? Eight, quake-arena-type maps? C'est tout?
I mean, I'm all for singleplayer games, but wasn't Rebellion bragging about their MP component of the game?
Quote from: skull-splitter on Jan 11, 2010, 04:18:25 PM
8 maps? seriously? Eight, quake-arena-type maps? C'est tout?
I mean, I'm all for singleplayer games, but wasn't Rebellion bragging about their MP component of the game?
12 if you count the exclusives..
Everyone who wants the complete experience owes it to themselves to get the special editions for the extra maps raising it to 12 maps.
unlike games like Uncharted 2, THE OPTION TO HAVE MORE MAPS IS THERE. You just have to do your part and not be cheap with your money. Everyone has all this time to save money, so they have no excuse.
With the 8 maps on the disk, I think Rebellion may have put extra effort to have all of them support every single mode in the multiplayer. I would be surprised if co-op isn't supported in all of them.
Quote from: affinity on Jan 11, 2010, 07:11:00 PM
Everyone who wants the complete experience owes it to themselves to get the special editions for the extra maps raising it to 12 maps.
unlike games like Uncharted 2, THE OPTION TO HAVE MORE MAPS IS THERE. You just have to do your part and not be cheap with your money. Everyone has all this time to save money, so they have no excuse.
With the 8 maps on the disk, I think Rebellion may have put extra effort to have all of them support every single mode in the multiplayer. I would be surprised if co-op isn't supported in all of them.
bwahahahah ahahah
hahahahha
Quote from: affinity on Jan 11, 2010, 07:11:00 PM
Everyone who wants the complete experience owes it to themselves to get the special editions for the extra maps raising it to 12 maps.
unlike games like Uncharted 2, THE OPTION TO HAVE MORE MAPS IS THERE. You just have to do your part and not be cheap with your money. Everyone has all this time to save money, so they have no excuse.
With the 8 maps on the disk, I think Rebellion may have put extra effort to have all of them support every single mode in the multiplayer. I would be surprised if co-op isn't supported in all of them.
Yeah... I guess you don't realize this, so I'll make it real simple for you. Any intelligent person would never pay money just to get extra maps in this manner. It's feeding a habit makes developers think they can be bloodsuckers in every sense of the word.
Not for me.
Quote from: safetyman on Jan 11, 2010, 08:36:54 PM
Quote from: affinity on Jan 11, 2010, 07:11:00 PM
Everyone who wants the complete experience owes it to themselves to get the special editions for the extra maps raising it to 12 maps.
unlike games like Uncharted 2, THE OPTION TO HAVE MORE MAPS IS THERE. You just have to do your part and not be cheap with your money. Everyone has all this time to save money, so they have no excuse.
With the 8 maps on the disk, I think Rebellion may have put extra effort to have all of them support every single mode in the multiplayer. I would be surprised if co-op isn't supported in all of them.
Yeah... I guess you don't realize this, so I'll make it real simple for you. Any intelligent person would never pay money just to get extra maps in this manner. It's feeding a habit makes developers think they can be bloodsuckers in every sense of the word.
Not for me.
Thats BS. Its all about the needs and wants of the consumer. If this were some game I was kinda interested in, then no way. Thing is, I've waited a long time for this game and will of course pay for extra maps as soon as possible.
Also anyone saying DLC down the line is unfair is retarded. Thats paying incentives to the Developers to keep a community based around a game alive for a longer period of time.
I do understand people having a problem with DLC right off the bat, but thats your problem. I want the content. You don't like the idea, don't buy it.
It's not even DLC, it's maps packed with one version of the game while the normal version gets shafted and they claim they are all about the multiplayer experience.
Quote from: safetyman on Jan 11, 2010, 09:10:24 PM
It's not even DLC, it's maps packed with one version of the game while the normal version gets shafted and they claim they are all about the multiplayer experience.
The maps will definitely be sold later as DLC. The people willing to buy the special edition deserve the extra maps first day. It's their game, and they are calling the shots. If you don't want to contribute MORE money for MORE content, then you people aren't helping the content grow and giving devs more reasons to make more content for the game.
If all developers gave out their extra content for free, it would end up being trash like Valve's lame DLC they made for Left 4 Dead. People wanted more maps/campaigns, not some half assed extra modes and a DLC campaign that isn't even half as long as the ones on the disk. It's like the saying goes, you get what you pay for. And if you pay less, you get less.
The business is final. If you wanna be miserable with only 8 maps, then only buy the standard edition. :P
The rest of us will buy the editions that gives more maps, and have more variety to have fun with. ;D
It's kind of like Rainbow Six Vegas's map pack that added 4 maps, but it'll be available at launch for those that buy the AVP special editions. They were even nice enough to sell the cheapter Survivor edition if people want the maps instead of all that extra stuff the Hunter edition comes with but doesn't expand the gameplay like more maps do.
Yes, it's definitely my decision if I don't want to shell out for a portion of the game that is supposed to be the best part of it to begin with.
it isn't the "best part" but it does make the multiplayer as a whole "better".
It's kind of like a pizza, only those that spend more get the extra toppings.
(https://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Ftheblogthatatemiami.com%2Ffiles%2F2009%2F06%2Fpepperoni-pizza.jpg&hash=a69b370adf9f01529b21ab2c44c4e21142266efa)
Wrong, if you advertise the multiplayer component as the best part of the game and then don't release all the maps for it at once, you're just looking to suck blood. How can you even compare game making to a pizza?
As long as they release the maps as DLC i'm fine with that (depends on the price anyway).
I don't really need the Hunter edition and beside that, it doesn't look like we get that in europe anyway.
If they won't release them as a DLC later on (which seems highly unlikely to me), i'll just be one of the many
Quotemiserable
europeans with the PC version, that affinity is talking about.
Quote from: safetyman on Jan 11, 2010, 09:50:31 PM
Wrong, if you advertise the multiplayer component as the best part of the game and then don't release all the maps for it at once, you're just looking to suck blood. How can you even compare game making to a pizza?
How can you tell if they even have time to add those maps to the disk. Who's to say they are even finished testing them?
The game will probably go Gold before those new maps are completed, but they will be completed in time to be downloaded as DLC from the code you get from the S.E.
Even if it's a scam like Capcom's Resident Evil 5 versus mode, or Street Fighter IV's alternate costumes,
multiplayer maps are far more valuable and complex than either of those.
IN reality even paying for internet service is a scam when it should be entirely free. But no matter how much people complain, that's the way things are. DLC is a reality these days and there is a market for
people willing to pay for that content.
The bottom line is that those who pay extra will get to enjoy the extra maps and more variety to choose from (which multiplayer lives off of.) and those that don't will just have to cope with 8 maps instead of 12.
If you're going with pizza,
I think what he is saying, is that if he buys a pizza, he shouldn't have to pay extra to get sauce on his pizza when the pizza should already have sauce in the first place.
Quote from: kvon17 on Jan 11, 2010, 10:26:05 PM
If you're going with pizza,
I think what he is saying, is that if he buys a pizza, he shouldn't have to pay extra to get sauce on his pizza when the pizza should already have sauce in the first place.
Exactly. As far as analogies go, that's the only acceptable one for this discussion. Players shouldn't have to pay extra for something like this.
Plus the DLC is ready, they aren't making it after the release, it's done.
in any case, you can whine all you want, you aren't gonna get any more maps with an attitude like that. ::)
Or they make them free after a while and you payed for nothing but playing in those maps by yourself.
Quote from: Brother on Jan 11, 2010, 10:38:45 PM
Or they make them free after a while and you payed for nothing but playing in those maps by yourself.
Wow think outside the box, will you? Even if you are sarcastic about playing those extra maps alone,
it doesn't change the fact that there will be enough people that will have the new maps to play with online.
Maybe all that PC upgrading and maintenance has emptied your wallets, but ya'll sound too cheap to be playing videogames. Maybe card games or boardgames, but you people cry about just a $30 difference for the Hunter edition (and you guys sound like you would still complain if the maps are sold as DLC for just $5-$10)
The multiplayer doesn't even have an online fee! On that note, I wonder what you people think about pay to play mmorpgs. ::)
Free this free that, you people are probably still depending on a family allowance, huh?
We are not too cheap to be playing games my friend, we spend money to play games to their fullest. We just have an issue with paying for things that used to be free and worked for both developer and consumer alike.
QuoteI'm the businessman
QuoteI'm the most hardcore fan and all you guys are cheap
Dude we talked about this stuff but you obviously forgot.
The drug addict thing? I'm pretty sure Ikarop will intervene here, he knows why.
You have wrote some ridiculous stuff before but this one is my favorite.
Quote from: Brother on Jan 11, 2010, 10:53:54 PM
QuoteI'm the businessman
QuoteI'm the most hardcore fan and all you guys are cheap
Dude we talked about this stuff but you obviously forgot.
The drug addict thing? I'm pretty sure Ikarop will intervene here, he knows why.
You have wrote some ridiculous stuff before but this one is my favorite.
No don't you dare twist my quotes around. If I was elitist I would say those things, but I'm not, I'm just saying you guys are completely dwelling on the negative aspect of DLC instead of accepting the positive aspects.
That's because of our history with games and their developers, we are used to so much better than having to pay for every little detail even once we've bought the game.
yeah well corruption is everywhere even all of those political rats lying to people for better benefits. But that isn't going to stop people from voting for the most convincing liar.
At least when it comes to videogames, we can still afford whatever fun content they sell separately.
Aaaaaand now politics.
now we're heading into politics? :o
Normaly when people start talking about politics it gets very heated and some people get ticked off and then banning occurs or somthing evil like that. maybe we should stir away from this subject but i always loved to discuss politics but still i don't want to see anyone get angry or anything bad happen to them.
ps and yes the system sucks at times. ;D
Please stay on topic.
Upcoming interview at CVG (http://www.computerandvideogames.com/article.php?id=231204)
They really are picking up the pace with marketing. ;D
Sweet thanks for the update ikarop. By the way like the new pic ;)
Quote from: TheRaven911 on Jan 12, 2010, 05:17:39 AM
Sweet thanks for the update ikarop. By the way like the new pic ;)
yeah Ikarops new pic ... the alien is growing :P
Heheh, yep I also noticed that. Cool ;D
Haha, so you can kill the Aliens on your team in infestation? Awesome.
Whose the Host? lol
Lol ;D
First part (http://www.computerandvideogames.com/article.php?id=231294) of the CVG interview is up.
Desperate housewives the game, buy now!
Enjoyed that interview, thanks Ikarop, is it me or is you're avatar growing? ;D
Quote from: Brother on Jan 12, 2010, 03:56:53 PM
Desperate housewives the game, buy now!
Just curious.. and what does that mean there at your end?.
Quote from: Drone23 on Jan 12, 2010, 04:15:30 PM
is it me or is you're avatar growing? ;D
He is avatar growing ?
Hey ikarop ... I think you are avatar growing. Whatever that means.
So far the interveiw is cool, I'll stick around to see if anything is "slipped". ;D
Quote from: The_Silencer on Jan 12, 2010, 06:38:22 PM
Quote from: Brother on Jan 12, 2010, 03:56:53 PM
Desperate housewives the game, buy now!
Just curious.. and what does that mean there at your end?.
The interview mentioned how it's impossible to make such a game, about franchises made into a game.
what I didn't like from the interview is that they give a bad example how to play Infestation. Players who become aliens shouldn't attack the alien player that killed them. Because that's what the alien(s) is supposed to do, kill the marines so they are converted into aliens.
If I see some immature punk teamkilling other aliens just because they were killed as a Marine, I'm booting them.
That is not what he is saying.
Well this info is not about game, as it is about Rebellion:
http://xbox360.ign.com/articles/106/1060271p1.html (http://xbox360.ign.com/articles/106/1060271p1.html)
So i am wondering is Core Design responsible for Rogue Warrior, and (maybe) ShellShock?
Rogue Warrior, SS2, the Tomb Raider Saga (as Core design) and many more. Including some multiplayer map stuff for AvP. It was a great studio; they had to face many problems with their last 2 games.
Also, just a reminder: AvP is no Rogue Warrior (http://www.nowgamer.com/news/2093/rebellion-avp-is-no-rogue-warrior).
Oh, i remember i just needed confirmation, thanks ikarop
In the newest edition of PC Gaming Magazine(USA) There was A preview for AVP for all three races campains. While we all know the the basic walk through of each races beginnings, I thought the section on the Aliens was interesting, and added some small details that I thought were interesting...
And I qoute:
...to my first objective, hive-minded to me by the Queen: "Kill everything that gets in your way." I rend a few marines with my claws, hopping back up to the ceiling between kills to make myself a difficult target. When the last Marine is toast, I drop back down on top of a terrified civilian engineer, grab him, and wait for the context-sensitive command to use a facehugger to finish him off in the worst way.
A second later, I leap inside an air duct. Holding down the sprint key turns the duct into a blur of sheet metel and dust. Im moving with terrifying speed---faster than any game I've ever played without turning on cheats.
continued....
I descend into a control room, crawl to a terminal and, with a press of me mouse's thumb button, extend my inner set of jaws to mash the big red "Do Not Push or We All Die" button. My Queen is free. A caption appears on the bottum of the screen as a Weyland-Yutani scientist mutters down the hall: "We're fu**ed."
I just think it adds some nice imagery... I CANT WAIT ANYMORE!!
T4p :). Did you mean PC Gamer Magazine (http://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/index.php?topic=27037.msg597317#msg597317)? Not sure if it's the article from that issue.
I really want to see the Queen.
England is that way ------->
I don't have the time or money to travel there unfortunately. Or the influence to get in.
QuoteIm moving with terrifying speed---faster than any game I've ever played without turning on cheats.
The guy obviously didn't play AvPG. ;) I am very pleased with the alien's speed coming back, though.
Second part (http://www.computerandvideogames.com/article.php?id=231436) for the CVG interview with Rebellion.
Also this (http://www.computerandvideogames.com/article.php?id=231456).
Quote from: ikarop on Jan 13, 2010, 03:33:28 PM
Second part (http://www.computerandvideogames.com/article.php?id=231436) for the CVG interview with Rebellion.
Thanks for posting, reading now.
Are you working on DLC already?
Yeah, absolutely. We're in the phase where we enter submissions. The teams are having a break and coming up with ideas - and we've had a lot of thoughts of what we'd like to do for DLC. We're discussing things with Sega at the moment. The amount of DLC will depend on Sega's commercial requirement, but we'd definitely love to do a lot.
good sign
Quote from: ikarop on Jan 13, 2010, 03:33:28 PM
Second part (http://www.computerandvideogames.com/article.php?id=231436) for the CVG interview with Rebellion.
Yay!
QuoteThere are a lot of unanswered questions in the Aliens and Predator canon we'd love to play with.
I say leave this to the professionals.
You mean ze Strauses?
Glad to hear they're already toying with sequel ideas.
Would be nice to get a good datadisk first, sequels later.
Would rather have canon details revealed in a movie, an Alien movie, not a Predator movie, not an AvP movie and not a game.
As far as most people are concerned, canon only comes from the core movies.
So Rebellion better not play with it.
Doesn't make a difference. Whatever they do isn't canon. They can take aspects of it and spin their own web from it but it wont effect the movie canon because that's the primary canon.
I get that. I just don't want to see some weird stuff happening in the game. They've said themselves they are sticking with the movies, no need to go further. But they did - royal jelly.
They're using the movies as the basis for gameplay and style. If they don't go any further than the movies the game'll just be same old same old. There wont be anything weird. It's supposed to expand on what we know. Hence being EU.
There is noting "same old" in a new game. People will buy it to play as and against their favorite sci-fi aliens, not to have canon details explained.
Which they get to do. With a new story.
If the games didn't deviate from the core movies there wouldn't be Aliens versus Predator.
Frankly filmmakers don't give a damn about canon when they make a movie based off a franchise. They take major things in account, but not much else.
Fans decree what is canon or not based off a general consensus of what they like and don't like.
Quote from: Brother on Jan 13, 2010, 05:18:01 PM
I get that. I just don't want to see some weird stuff happening in the game. They've said themselves they are sticking with the movies, no need to go further. But they did - royal jelly.
They went beyond the movies when they created the Praetorian (and PredAlien? I don't read comics so I don't know if it existed in any form before the game), but I've never heard anyone complain about that. I'm interested to see what they come up with this time around.
Let's not forget that the whole concept of these games violates the (stupid) canon made by Resurrection.
Both praetorians and predaliens existed in comic books and previous games. Old stuff, really.
Obviously games will never officially be canon but I clearly players and fans want the quality of the story/game to be good enough so that if it was a movie we would be happy it was canon.
I'd rather have AvP2's and AvP's stories as movies than the actual two little shits we got.
Indeed. I always thought it would fit in well in a movie and was so excited when they first announced AvP. You know the rest.
New article at MCVUK.com (http://www.mcvuk.com/retail-biz/previews/629/Aliens-Vs-Predator).
QuoteAliens vs Predator will be inescapable as Sega launches a full assault on retail to entice fans and newcomers in the run-up to the game's release.
– There will be a three-week TV campaign with ads appearing across a range of terrestrial and satellite channels, including a dedicated promotional weekend supported by Aliens vs Predator.
– A two-month cinema campaign will see 30-second ads shown before leading blockbuster movies.
– Online ads will target specialist and lifestyle websites, with high impact site takeovers and launch zones arranged for key destinations. This will take a dual-phase approach, first promoting the demo and then the game's release.
– A broad print campaign will see both ads and editorial appear in a range of specialist and lifestyle publications. This has been supported by an intensive 12-month PR campaign, which has secured eight front covers for the game.
– Aliens Vs Predator was showcased at the Eurogamer Expo based around a multiplayer event exclusive to the UK, while both single and multiplayer modes were available to play at the SFX Weekender.
Quote from: ikarop on Jan 14, 2010, 12:25:08 PM
New article at MCVUK.com (http://www.mcvuk.com/retail-biz/previews/629/Aliens-Vs-Predator).
thanks man you're always on top of things!
nice to see them preparing the ad's for the game for tv!!
The number of interviews and articles is growing as if they were mushrooms. And that's cool; indeed.
Thanks Ikarop again for the links!.
From what it says, it looks like we get a/the demo before the game's release. :)
Quote from: Ghost Rider LSOV on Jan 14, 2010, 01:21:55 PM
From what it says, it looks like we get a/the demo before the game's release. :)
yeah!!!!!!!!!!! now its just a matter of wondering which of these Thursdays it'll be up on PSN Store!
I'm gonna guess that the demo will probably come out closer to the release date of the game than we've hoped .L4D's demo was released a week before the game was released unless you had preordered. So unless gamestop performs some sort of 'preorder and get the demo early' deal then were probably looking at a similar release of the demo.
I'm glad to hear that Sega is putting some real weight behind the marketing campaign for AVP. I'm really impressed to hear that they're planning to show ads in theaters.
Quote from: newbeing on Jan 14, 2010, 02:19:42 PM
I'm gonna guess that the demo will probably come out closer to the release date of the game than we've hoped .L4D's demo was released a week before the game was released unless you had preordered. So unless gamestop performs some sort of 'preorder and get the demo early' deal then were probably looking at a similar release of the demo.
I'm glad to hear that Sega is putting some real weight behind the marketing campaign for AVP. I'm really impressed to hear that they're planning to show ads in theaters.
Left 4 Dead 2 is a MP game and was made and published by another company, most SP games have Demos around 2-3 weeks before release. Condemned 2 was published by Sega and the demo was out 3 weeks before the release date..
and lets not forget that L4D demos get stopped as soon as the release date is here, prob because the demo features nearly everything from the game except a couple game modes and maps.
Quote from: Ghost Rider LSOV on Jan 14, 2010, 01:21:55 PM
From what it says, it looks like we get a/the demo before the game's release. :)
Indeed. That was said many moons ago though.
Quote from: ikarop on Jan 14, 2010, 03:33:56 PM
Quote from: Ghost Rider LSOV on Jan 14, 2010, 01:21:55 PM
From what it says, it looks like we get a/the demo before the game's release. :)
Indeed. That was said many moons ago though.
This is INSANE!
We have yet to see what psn store will have for demos later today, but it's unlikely AVP demo is today.
We have 2 more weeks in January. AND about 2 more weeks in Feb. before release. HMMMM one of those weeks.
Sorry if this is old news, but Rebellion have promised a sequel (and more DLC).
http://www.oxm.co.uk/article.php?id=16557
Can't quote from my mobile but what was confirmed moons ago was that the demo was coming.
I don't remember a confirmation that it would come before the full game. People still thought that it could come after the game too.
Quote from: Ghost Rider LSOV on Jan 14, 2010, 05:18:18 PM
Can't quote from my mobile but what was confirmed moons ago was that the demo was coming.
I don't remember a confirmation that it would come before the full game. People still thought that it could come after the game too.
Most demos are released post-launch these days.
Quote from: Ghost Rider LSOV on Jan 14, 2010, 05:18:18 PM
Can't quote from my mobile but what was confirmed moons ago was that the demo was coming.
I don't remember a confirmation that it would come before the full game. People still thought that it could come after the game too.
well it kinda has been confirmed because the latest news says there advertising the demo first, and then the game.
Quote from: heady89 on Jan 14, 2010, 05:24:35 PM
Quote from: Ghost Rider LSOV on Jan 14, 2010, 05:18:18 PM
Can't quote from my mobile but what was confirmed moons ago was that the demo was coming.
I don't remember a confirmation that it would come before the full game. People still thought that it could come after the game too.
Most demos are released post-launch these days.
i think you will find your wrong, most demos are pre-launch although some are post. ]
I know that... If you read my first post of the day, it says about the ads which confirm that.
What I am saying is that it was confirmed today and not long time ago.
Quote from: Ghost Rider LSOV on Jan 14, 2010, 05:18:18 PM
Can't quote from my mobile but what was confirmed moons ago was that the demo was coming.
I don't remember a confirmation that it would come before the full game. People still thought that it could come after the game too.
Nope, people were reticent to believe it but it was mentioned here and confirmed at GamesCom that the demo would come before release. It's great to see another confirmation on the press though.
Quote from: GrimyGhost on Jan 14, 2010, 05:27:36 PM
Quote from: heady89 on Jan 14, 2010, 05:24:35 PM
Quote from: Ghost Rider LSOV on Jan 14, 2010, 05:18:18 PM
Can't quote from my mobile but what was confirmed moons ago was that the demo was coming.
I don't remember a confirmation that it would come before the full game. People still thought that it could come after the game too.
Most demos are released post-launch these days.
i think you will find your wrong, most demos are pre-launch although some are post. ]
Not really, the concept of demos have switched rapidly the last years.
I wouldn't get my hopes up if I were you..
@Ikarop: I see.
Well, I guess people will believe it now for certain.
IGN's previews the second chapter of each of the three species. Link here (http://ps3.ign.com/articles/106/1061133p1.html). *contains spoilers*
I wish reviewers would spend more time discussing how the game handles. Is there a weight to the weapons, is it awkward leaping as the Predator, etc. I'm tired of being told the play by play of what happens.
Spoiler
kinda strange that you kill the queen of so soon....
ign are reviewing more next week if i read correct, hmmm maybe the demo?...
To your *spoiler*: Did they really HAVE to divulge that info?! Unless there are more, y'know, otherwise very bad move on the reviewer's part.
to true, i would love an epic queen battle at the end of the game
Spoiler
instead of ghe first half-hour ....
Well, remember the ending for AVP (pc)? You vs the queen in the hangar. I'm sure they will at least attempt to top that ending.
But damn I would have loved to come across the queen with 0 knowledge she was around the corner.
Thanks IGN.
Quote from: Proj2501 on Jan 14, 2010, 06:52:07 PM
Well, remember the ending for AVP (pc)? You vs the queen in the hangar. I'm sure they will at least attempt to top that ending.
But damn I would have loved to come across the queen with 0 knowledge she was around the corner.
Thanks IGN.
amen, they go into far to much detail and ruin the experience, but thats ign for you.... what was it about a month ago they were bashing it in that video.
Speaking of endings: What do you think each character will face as the final confrontation scenario?
Marine vs Queen? (Or King Alien ala Aliens: Rogue jk)
Pred vs Predalien (I hope not, old news IMO. Maybe the Pred vs a predator for hunts other Preds ala Pred: Bad Blood. I would eat that up!)
(https://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimages.darkhorse.com%2Fcovers%2F300%2Fp%2Fprbb3.jpg&hash=46b8ec47e01a77462a6f209286549eb979a2a689)
Alien vs.....idk.
Quote from: ign preview(talking about alien campaign)
"It's possible to hear the sweep and click of their motion trackers ramping up as you approach"
ow yeah ;D
Quote from: Vertigo on Jan 14, 2010, 07:19:39 PM
Quote from: Proj2501 on Jan 14, 2010, 07:00:05 PM
Alien vs.....idk.
Xenoborg!
Haha.
And hopefully no Alien King (Rouge and Kenner reference)
Spoiler
The whole Queen thing, must be more than one, because I assume where 3 would be already.
Im not reading it. I did open the one spoiler tag and see the queen thing..I was actually confused more than understanding. Looks like im not reading it if previeers can't refrain from spoiling information..
"- There will be a three-week TV campaign with ads appearing across a range of terrestrial and satellite channels, including a dedicated promotional weekend supported by Aliens vs Predator.
- A two-month cinema campaign will see 30-second ads shown before leading blockbuster movies.
- Online ads will target specialist and lifestyle websites, with high impact site takeovers and launch zones arranged for key destinations.This will take a dual-phase approach, first promoting the demo and then the game's release.
- A broad print campaign will see both ads and editorial appear in a range of specialist and lifestyle publications. This has been supported by an intensive 12-month PR campaign, which has secured eight front covers for the game.
not sure if posted
Quote from: dude63 on Jan 14, 2010, 09:29:39 PM
Im not reading it. I did open the one spoiler tag and see the queen thing..I was actually confused more than understanding. Looks like im not reading it if previeers can't refrain from spoiling information..
Neither do I.
Cool on the marketing stuff, indeed.
Quote from: affinity on Jan 15, 2010, 05:54:55 AM
not sure if posted
http://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/index.php?topic=27914.0
CRAP, did I HAVE TO click that spoiler?!?!?! :-\
Quote from: TJ Doc on Jan 14, 2010, 04:44:40 PM
Sorry if this is old news, but Rebellion have promised a sequel (and more DLC).
New well implemented SP campaign(s) with carefully thought out story could be nice...
Primal Hunt for AvP2 had new SP campaign but it certainly wasn't what I would call
well thought out or implemented... They left out all the good things in AvP2 SP and
multiplied the bad things 1000 times... If thats what we can expect... No thanks...
And if they are just going to be pushing out some new MP maps and new MP skins
and new MP... Then I don't think thats such a great news... (Because I don't really
have much faith in rebellions MP balance/gameplay implementation... and as long as
they are pushing out content them selves we are obviously not going to be seeing
the real Great Price = The SDK...)
So... SDK and New >GOOD< SP campaigns for me... MP stuff = not intrested...
seriously a queen fight that early in the game? ???
Quote from: The Dude5000 on Jan 15, 2010, 10:19:39 AM
seriously a queen fight that early in the game? ???
why does it matter? I'm sure there will be another and maybe you don't even kill her the first time.
One queen is enough.
Quote from: Brother on Jan 15, 2010, 11:05:06 AM
One queen is enough.
Well hopefully we don't kill her off on that level then! ;D
Rebellion's 1999 original heading to Steam at budget price.
http://pc.ign.com/articles/106/1061386p1.html (http://pc.ign.com/articles/106/1061386p1.html)
And they will fix the multiplayer to be played again? Great! :D
Quote from: Dzuksi on Jan 15, 2010, 11:28:12 AM
Rebellion's 1999 original heading to Steam at budget price.
http://pc.ign.com/articles/106/1061386p1.html (http://pc.ign.com/articles/106/1061386p1.html)
Great news for the fix :)
Apparently they have more money than we thought.
Quote from: Dzuksi on Jan 15, 2010, 11:28:12 AM
Rebellion's 1999 original heading to Steam at budget price.
http://pc.ign.com/articles/106/1061386p1.html (http://pc.ign.com/articles/106/1061386p1.html)
Please discuss it on its board.
http://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/index.php?topic=27924.0
Quote from: ikarop on Jan 14, 2010, 12:25:08 PM
– Aliens Vs Predator was showcased at the Eurogamer Expo based around a multiplayer event exclusive to the UK, while both single and multiplayer modes were available to play at the SFX Weekender.
[/quote]
That SFX thing hasn't actually happened yet, so if anyone wants to actulaly play the game head on down there:
http://www.sfxweekender.co.uk/
I apologise in advance for the shit sfx site.
Mambo
Cool, I'll look into going to that - If I can get round the shit site.
I still have AVP Gold, box, strategy guide and everything.
When you as alien grab someone does that automatically lead to some attack
or do you just hold him untill you choose to intiate some attack or release ?
And how is the attack type selected ? some situation based ? some button
based ? or what ?
And are you locked in place when you grab someone or can you move
around and drag your victim with you ?
From what we can see in those leaked (or not) SP videos, it looks more like you can stealth kill whoever you want, but you can finish armed opponents only.
It seems when nearing an unarmed opponent you can perform a harvesting move (holding them so some random facehugger can get to them). So yeah, I'd say it's definitely situation based.
Also, it doesn't seem you can move by doing so.
I missed that Predator kill we did see in previous videos on which the predator grabs an alien and then cuts a quarter of his head.. with all those acid splats and so on. That was supa cool. Hope we got it in the retail version!.
Quote from: The_Silencer on Jan 16, 2010, 12:07:41 AM
I missed that Predator kill we did see in previous videos on which the predator grabs an alien and then cuts a quarter of his head.. with all those acid splats and so on. That was supa cool. Hope we got it in the retail version!.
yeah im hopeing if the same thing, i would say they took it from the first AVP movie, becaouse in the movie the pred dose a similiar move and kills an alien, but i think he used the shiruken to do it ???
It's more akin to the Wolf stabbing the predalien through the chin at the end of AVP-R from what I've seen. I still fail to see how the player will not get covered in acid while executing aliens in this way.
Preds are in acid bath all the time in those video clips... But it doesn't seem
to hurt them that much really, it just "blurs" their vision for second or two...
if you want a canon authentic simulator, try to make your own AVP game. :P This is already closer to the movies than the past AVP games.
Quote from: affinity on Jan 17, 2010, 11:38:46 AM
This is already closer to the movies than the past AVP games.
Perhaps... Perhaps not... Even if it is, it doesn't mean it couldn't be better...
Quote from: AJL on Jan 17, 2010, 12:07:09 PM
Quote from: affinity on Jan 17, 2010, 11:38:46 AM
This is already closer to the movies than the past AVP games.
Perhaps... Perhaps not... Even if it is, it doesn't mean it couldn't be better...
yeah but at this point, the game is pretty much Gold, or finalized with how things work.
We are fortunate to even get a new high quality AVP. it could have stopped at AVP2 if it wasn't
for Sega and Rebellion reviving the game series.
This is still a big step forward. ;D
Quote from: AJL on Jan 17, 2010, 12:07:09 PM
Quote from: affinity on Jan 17, 2010, 11:38:46 AM
This is already closer to the movies than the past AVP games.
Perhaps... Perhaps not... Even if it is, it doesn't mean it couldn't be better...
imho its not as close to the movies as the first AVP game.. (duel wristblades, differant planet, differant Marine armour, weapons slightly modified, Aliens holding down people for a hugger to jump on..)
I cant wait for the game and im glad they stayed far away from the AvP movies.
Quote from: GrimyGhost on Jan 17, 2010, 12:14:49 PM
Quote from: AJL on Jan 17, 2010, 12:07:09 PM
Quote from: affinity on Jan 17, 2010, 11:38:46 AM
This is already closer to the movies than the past AVP games.
Perhaps... Perhaps not... Even if it is, it doesn't mean it couldn't be better...
imho its not as close to the movies as the first AVP game.. (duel wristblades, differant planet, differant Marine armour, weapons slightly modified, Aliens holding down people for a hugger to jump on..)
I cant wait for the game and im glad they stayed far away from the AvP movies.
Dont forget this is set 30 years later on .... (after the movies i mean)
Quote from: GrimyGhost on Jan 17, 2010, 12:14:49 PM
I cant wait for the game and im glad they stayed far away from the AvP movies.
Did they ?
Preds hud is from Requiem, Spear is from AvP movies, Mines are from AvP movies
(but work differently), The Pyramid deal is from AvP, ... propably lots of things...
But don't get me wrong... I have no problem with them taking stuff from AvP
movies... (Even though those movies weren't too great, there were some nice
useable stuff in there...)
Quote from: AJL on Jan 17, 2010, 12:29:24 PM
Quote from: GrimyGhost on Jan 17, 2010, 12:14:49 PM
I cant wait for the game and im glad they stayed far away from the AvP movies.
Did they ?
Preds hud is from Requiem, Spear is from AvP movies, Mines are from AvP movies
(but work differently), The Pyramid deal is from AvP, ... propably lots of things...
But don't get me wrong... I have no problem with them taking stuff from AvP
movies... (Even though those movies weren't too great, there were some nice
useable stuff in there...)
yes but they stayed away from the real silly things like setting it on earth and those (imo) piss poor excuse of Masks the Preds had in AvP and there clunky Armour, and last but definatly not least, theres no Pred - human Friendships (thank god).
Quote from: GrimyGhost on Jan 17, 2010, 12:41:56 PM
and last but definatly not least, theres no Pred - human Friendships (thank god).
You sure ? ;D
Quote from: AJL on Jan 17, 2010, 12:54:31 PM
Quote from: GrimyGhost on Jan 17, 2010, 12:41:56 PM
and last but definatly not least, theres no Pred - human Friendships (thank god).
You sure ? ;D
Co-op ;)
you have to remember in Predator 2, it established that Predators can respect, honor and spare humans that prove their worth. So forming alliances or at least keeping a temporary truce is not out of the question depending on the situation.
Well... Maybe they just went too far with it in the AvP movies... With that
hilarious old Batman and Robin ripoff scene and all... But better if they don't
touch that area at all...
Quote from: affinity on Jan 17, 2010, 01:03:59 PM
you have to remember in Predator 2, it established that Predators can respect, honor and spare humans that prove their worth. So forming alliances or at least keeping a temporary truce is not out of the question depending on the situation.
yeh cause often when i go Deer hunting i like to form an alliance with one and make weapons out of a Dead raibbit for him to use...
jokes aside, i dont mind the sparing the unarmed stuff but helping one escape from Aliens when it was staited in the movie that they think of human as cattle is just silly.
call me what you like, but i like it. Show'd the predator wasn't all that evil, although i still would of enjoyed it if it blasted her anyways. :D
Quote from: The Dude5000 on Jan 17, 2010, 03:08:00 PM
call me what you like, but i like it. Show'd the predator wasn't all that evil, although i still would of enjoyed it if it blasted her anyways. :D
Hes supposed to be a movie MONSTER not a super hero...
that one scene ruined preds reputation and caused me to loose all respect for the creature.
"The enemy of my enemy is my..." ?.
An alliance upon a time doesn't look that ugly to me.
Quote from: The_Silencer on Jan 17, 2010, 03:32:59 PM
"The enemy of my enemy is my..." ?.
An alliance upon a time doesn't look that ugly to me.
thats great, but Alien is not Predators enemy... there a sport to it, the same as humans, its all game to the predator, or at least it was until its credibility was ruined by that horrible movie. :'(
Quote from: GrimyGhost on Jan 17, 2010, 03:35:24 PM
Quote from: The_Silencer on Jan 17, 2010, 03:32:59 PM
"The enemy of my enemy is my..." ?.
An alliance upon a time doesn't look that ugly to me.
thats great, but Alien is not Predators enemy... there a sport to it, the same as humans, its all game to the predator, or at least it was until its credibility was ruined by that horrible movie. :'(
It was a game, until shit got out of hand. When it's life or death, its not crazy.
thats your opinion, i was just voicing mine, were is the honour in helping your pray to servive? he should of left her to die.... it would of made more sense and would of let predator keep his image instead of turning him into something that is to human and emotional ..
It is suppose to be one of the most honourable things a predator can do is die in the hunt... and being helped is supposed to be dishonouring there clan.
Quote from: GrimyGhost on Jan 17, 2010, 05:02:18 PM
thats your opinion, i was just voicing mine, were is the honour in helping your pray to servive? he should of left her to die.... it would of made more sense and would of let predator keep his image instead of turning him into something that is to human and emotional ..
It is suppose to be one of the most honourable things a predator can do is die in the hunt... and being helped is supposed to be dishonouring there clan.
The human wasn't his prey in that situation. The way it plays out seems more like she is tagging along no matter what so he made it so she wouldn't slow him down.
I would argue that this shows more of the hunter attitude because he doesn't care about killing a species that isn't his prey. He's not a ruthless killing machine. Thats why the Predator movies did so well, they're not slasher flicks.
Humans are hosts in the movie. But someone found the saying "the enemy of my enemy is my friend" way too cool.
The movie wise tripe anyway, it seemed like a sad attempt to bring the AvP books main character into play which was a women who had killed a number of aliens and was thus accepted into the ranks by a Predator who was using her base as a hunting ground for aliens and humans. This women then went on to live with the predators and hunt with them in the following books; though she was looked down upon and many other predators did think she had no right to be there. The Predator that initially marked her and brought her on died very shortly after doing so though if recall correctly.
That book sounds like it sux harder than the movie.
My shabby description of it does not give it justice, plus i cant remember exactly why the predator brought her in especially when i read it years ago when i was much younger. Personally I didn't think they were terrible and it usually depended on which author was writing them. But the Aliens and Predator books were much better than the AvP books.
Still, she went to live with the preds and hunt with them :/
Quote from: Brother on Jan 17, 2010, 09:43:56 PM
That book sounds like it sux harder than the movie.
That's because it does. The AVP movie didn't go nearly as far with the whole teaming up aspect as the books and comics did.
Quote from: That Yellow Alien on Jan 17, 2010, 10:18:11 PM
Quote from: Brother on Jan 17, 2010, 09:43:56 PM
That book sounds like it sux harder than the movie.
That's because it does. The AVP movie didn't go nearly as far with the whole teaming up aspect as the books and comics did.
the only thing doing both species any justice these days are the games
That is unfortunately very true.
At least we got the games..
The first book PREY was absolutely great. The next one's not so much.
New Hands-on preview at Gamersdailynews (http://www.gamersdailynews.com/article-2292-Aliens-vs-Predator-Hands-On-Preview-Xbox-360.html).
Quote from: ikarop on Jan 18, 2010, 11:59:41 AM
New Hands--on preview at Gamersdailynews (http://www.gamersdailynews.com/article-2292-Aliens-vs-Predator-Hands-On-Preview-Xbox-360.html).
Nice, be great when we start getting some PC previews.
QuoteOne mildly irritating thing about humans is the fact that they can't jump really. I couldn't even climb on top of a small toolbox. I don't know that a well-trained marine should have less than 6 inches of vertical even with his gear and guns. That certainly needs to be fixed.
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Really?
QuoteQuote from: ikarop on Jan 18, 2010, 11:59:41 AM
New Hands--on preview at Gamersdailynews (http://www.gamersdailynews.com/article-2292-Aliens-vs-Predator-Hands-On-Preview-Xbox-360.html).
"One mildly irritating thing about humans is the fact that they can't jump really. I couldn't even climb on top of a small toolbox. I don't know that a well-trained marine should have less than 6 inches of vertical even with his gear and guns. That certainly needs to be fixed."
6 inches = ~ 15cm ?
Can't get over 15 cm obstacle... ? can they walk up stairs ? ;D
Yay for over-simplyfied gameplay: back to 1996.
lol that guy is like "for some reason the aliens can see through your cloak" lol
and ya the marines can try and jump to get on a box meanwhile a xenomorph is bullrushing them and about to headbite. pay attention to your back and don't jump on boxes ppl!!!
No crouching and no jumping for the marine?
That sux big time. :-\
Before this gets out of hand:
The Marine player can jump.
He can also climb onto the top of low (up to 1.5m) objects. No idea why the guy previewing the game found otherwise.
And a more positive bit from page two:
QuoteThe game is truly shaping up to be a shining example of the FPS genre and with such great properties and characters (Xenomorphs and Predators) it's not at all surprising. Rebellion seems to be doing an awesome job.
Quote from: Puks on Jan 18, 2010, 02:00:32 PM
No crouching and no jumping for the marine?
That sux big time. :-\
yea I gotta agree that's kind of strange what the fudge are all the buttons for the marines going to be for?
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There is Jump button...
Quote from: ajm on Jan 18, 2010, 02:02:20 PM
He can also climb onto the top of low (up to 1.5m) objects. No idea why the guy previewing the game found otherwise.
Ooh! They implemented the climb function :o Thats great!
You just dont "need" to jump higher than 15 cm... Damn it...
Quote from: AJL on Jan 18, 2010, 02:03:44 PM
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There is Jump button...
Well fudge why do all these guys get to review this game when they don't know half the crap about it?
this guy didn't know you could jump and he doesn't know how the aliens can see through your cloak. lol
Quote from: Dajanksta on Jan 18, 2010, 02:05:19 PM
Quote from: AJL on Jan 18, 2010, 02:03:44 PM
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There is Jump button...
Well fudge why do all these guys get to review this game when they don't know half the crap about it?
this guy didn't know you could jump and he doesn't know how the aliens can see through your cloak. lol
Yeah, it's like they never played AvP1-2.
I guess they didn't. :P (about the alien seeing through cloak part)
Hicks said that there is jumping.
Another reviewer did a good job.
Quote from: Dajanksta on Jan 18, 2010, 02:05:19 PM
Quote from: AJL on Jan 18, 2010, 02:03:44 PM
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There is Jump button...
Well fudge why do all these guys get to review this game when they don't know half the crap about it?
this guy didn't know you could jump and he doesn't know how the aliens can see through your cloak. lol
This is exactly what is wrong with game reviews and previews these days, people just write what actually happens in the game storywise and nothing about how the game plays or exactly what weapons you come across, you know, anything useful. Always rehashed information that anyone who has kept up even a little with the game already knows, making 2-3 paragraphs worth reading out of 10, and even so, incredibly general and poorly explained information.
Quote from: safetyman on Jan 18, 2010, 03:26:52 PM
Quote from: Dajanksta on Jan 18, 2010, 02:05:19 PM
Quote from: AJL on Jan 18, 2010, 02:03:44 PM
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There is Jump button...
Well fudge why do all these guys get to review this game when they don't know half the crap about it?
this guy didn't know you could jump and he doesn't know how the aliens can see through your cloak. lol
This is exactly what is wrong with game reviews and previews these days, people just write what actually happens in the game storywise and nothing about how the game plays or exactly what weapons you come across, you know, anything useful. Always rehashed information that anyone who has kept up even a little with the game already knows, making 2-3 paragraphs worth reading out of 10, and even so, incredibly general and poorly explained information.
yep I could of wrote that review and I haven't even played the game. Probably better too lol.
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PC version preview
Quote from: yaji on Jan 18, 2010, 04:21:05 PM
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PC version preview
good find and read ;D
Nice find, great preview.
Quote from: yaji on Jan 18, 2010, 04:21:05 PM
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PC version preview
sweet
cool preview, but it mentions that the marine AI seems bad.
apparently they dont react to dead team mates.... bit of a bummer
If it's worse than Ghostbusters' teammate AI then I'll eat my socks.
Looks like the PC ain't completely forsaken after all. :)
Good read.
I dont want jumping in this game. Or I like what rebellion did. If I hot that right there wont be HIGH marine umping. Or bunny hopping. Jumping with gun in unrealistic and this was used before, 10 years before when they were unable to make better systems to pass over obstacles.
Also I want weak and human like marine. I dont want to play with marine that is like Arnold in Commandos movie...
Quote from: newbeing on Jan 18, 2010, 06:24:49 PM
cool preview, but it mentions that the marine AI seems bad.
Still time to improve it. i hope :D
Ah, if they care with DLC and expansion they should fix everything. They just need to do some hard work.
Well this is probbly their best project and its one of most expected games this year. There's lots pressure of on them and lots of expectations :) .
Quote from: yaji on Jan 18, 2010, 04:21:05 PM
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PC version preview
T4P. Another Polish review here (http://translate.googleusercontent.com/translate_c?hl=es&ie=UTF-8&sl=auto&tl=en&u=http://polygamia.pl/Polygamia/1,99601,7468940,W_Aliens_vs_Predator_ludzie_nie_maja_latwo.html&prev=_t&rurl=translate.google.com&twu=1&usg=ALkJrhj85gTbh30Wn681ZJFM4k-2rfh0nQ).
Quote from: ikarop on Jan 18, 2010, 09:17:18 PM
Quote from: yaji on Jan 18, 2010, 04:21:05 PM
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PC version preview
T4P. Another Polish review here (http://translate.googleusercontent.com/translate_c?hl=es&ie=UTF-8&sl=auto&tl=en&u=http://polygamia.pl/Polygamia/1,99601,7468940,W_Aliens_vs_Predator_ludzie_nie_maja_latwo.html&prev=_t&rurl=translate.google.com&twu=1&usg=ALkJrhj85gTbh30Wn681ZJFM4k-2rfh0nQ).
darn these polish reviews are pointing out alot of bad things (small maps, bad textures..ect) I hope there just being picky..
Picky or not, whether is true or not is what matters.
Also I think they leaked lots of videos without permission.
Max texture quality for demo or beta version that was lately played was normal, no high, 16msaa.
LOL, I hope there will be high xD. It should good ok on high.
BTW that last preview you posted Ikarop, looks like some 18- kid wrote that...
"Traditionally, the first moments we are living in darkness without seeing the opponents for a good few minutes. Ta sekwencja ma służyć budowaniu napięcia, ale szczerze mówiąc, dla mnie zabawa zaczęła się dopiero, kiedy po raz pierwszy położyłem ręce na karabinku plazmowym. This sequence is intended to build tension, but honestly, for me fun only started when the first time I laid hands on a plasma rifle."
I mean, looks like he doesnt like horror games.
Also he says aliens arent fast, in alien 3 they werent faster than human... only a bit faster.
I might be bitching :D. I'll stop. Man has right to write a review. Good review anyway...
Another report at IGN (http://xbox360.ign.com/articles/106/1061737p1.html).
Hmm nice find, nothing really new but he did mention a few kill animations I have'nt seen. Like the pred crushing a dudes head into a pulp (gotta see that), and twisting the person's head all the way around (awsomee).
Ikarop you are everywhere! :)
(https://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fps3media.ign.com%2Fps3%2Fimage%2Farticle%2F106%2F1061682%2Faliens-vs-predator-20100117113158543.jpg&hash=5e1505cac3c4c8d38af66131c0770e2d4d650885)
Priceless.
They do make a good point on the flashlight and aliens and preds collectibles.
Quoteon the flashlight
Personally, I'd much prefer the image intensifier.
Quote from: Brother on Jan 19, 2010, 01:22:08 AM
http://ps3media.ign.com/ps3/image/article/106/1061682/aliens-vs-predator-20100117113158543.jpg
Priceless.
They do make a good point on the flashlight and aliens and preds collectibles.
Yeah tru, the audio logs put a little more story or back story into it but the royal jelly and trophy belts......not so much. I guess for the total completionists who like to search for things is alright.
Quote from: Puks on Jan 19, 2010, 01:27:33 AM
Quoteon the flashlight
Personally, I'd much prefer the image intensifier.
Why not both? The night vision in AvP2 was useless.
It can be something hard to find but when you have it - quite useful.
QuoteThe night vision in AvP2 was useless.
And use
ful in AvP1.
Quote from: Brother on Jan 19, 2010, 01:22:08 AM
They do make a good point on the flashlight and aliens and preds collectibles.
I think they had to wrestle with the fact that the way they have it now, is the exact orientation the marines had theirs in Aliens.
Might also have to do with they really like the fact that it doesn't help much. At least thats what it has sounded like to me in interviews with them and such.
Quote from: Brother on Jan 19, 2010, 01:33:35 AM
Quote from: Puks on Jan 19, 2010, 01:27:33 AM
Quoteon the flashlight
Personally, I'd much prefer the image intensifier.
Why not both? The night vision in AvP2 was useless.
It can be something hard to find but when you have it - quite useful.
Heres the problem with the flashlight/shoulder lamp... Since Rebellion has slightly changed/modified the weapons, dont you think by that time period the USCM would have flashlights with longer battery life? And in Aliens, their lights never really ran outa power. Think about Drake and Vasquez's shoulder lamps, they never went dead. The dude at ign said this gets frustrating. We'll see i guess.
From the IGN article:
"Number 6, the Alien, on the other hand, must find and shatter vials of Royal Jelly the humans are supposedly putting to their own twisted ends. Riiiight. Granted, it never really makes sense to analyse these things, but they jumped out at us as particularly silly."
To which I reply: You're f**king silly IGN!
"Thy Facehuggers Shall Suck"
Not so easy to hit huh? Damn Rebellion for making a fictional story realistic.
Did I mention I can care less for IGN lately...?
I've got a couple questions for Hicks I forgot to make:
1.- Is there a walking feature?
2.- Light wrist-blades attacks decloack the predator?.
Thanks in advance.
Quote from: Puks on Jan 19, 2010, 01:41:19 AM
QuoteThe night vision in AvP2 was useless.
And useful in AvP1.
I didn't like it.
Since the game was pretty much pitch black the whole time, I spent the whole game in night vision.
Quote from: Huol on Jan 19, 2010, 10:44:48 AM
Quote from: Puks on Jan 19, 2010, 01:41:19 AM
QuoteThe night vision in AvP2 was useless.
And useful in AvP1.
I didn't like it.
Since the game was pretty much pitch black the whole time, I spent the whole game in night vision.
i think in the new game when your the Alien and you enter darkness it light's up alittle so you can see (wich i prefer than playing the hole game in inverted colours.
Quote from: GrimyGhost on Jan 19, 2010, 10:49:11 AM
I think in the new game when your the Alien and you enter darkness it light's up alittle so you can see (wich i prefer than playing the hole game in inverted colours.
Yes... They apparently have some sort of automatically adapting vision...
(Just like I think they should have...)
But no NightVision or IR-Vision or any vision for marines this time ???
(Just flares and flashlight which is so weak it is practically useless ?)
Makes it more tense. Fun. :D
Check Eidotemit's MLG report here (http://www.avpgalaxy.net/website/articles/orlando-mlg-report/).
Great Job Eido! I enjoyed it a lot :D
Great article. Thanks for doing that Eidotemit. Was nice to see some perspective on the various other weapons out there.
Quote from: JayHy17 on Jan 19, 2010, 03:40:53 AM
Quote from: Brother on Jan 19, 2010, 01:33:35 AM
Quote from: Puks on Jan 19, 2010, 01:27:33 AM
Quoteon the flashlight
Personally, I'd much prefer the image intensifier.
Why not both? The night vision in AvP2 was useless.
It can be something hard to find but when you have it - quite useful.
Heres the problem with the flashlight/shoulder lamp... Since Rebellion has slightly changed/modified the weapons, dont you think by that time period the USCM would have flashlights with longer battery life? And in Aliens, their lights never really ran outa power. Think about Drake and Vasquez's shoulder lamps, they never went dead. The dude at ign said this gets frustrating. We'll see i guess.
Good point Jay. The 30 years in the future did nothing to the flashlight but it did change the designs sounds etc. of the weapons..
Guys.. imagine space marines in year 22.. ehm, whatever year it is...
Would they use flashlights with shitty light OR hi-tech night vision goggles?
Opinions?
Quote from: Puks on Jan 19, 2010, 12:27:04 PM
Guys.. imagine space marines in year 22.. ehm, whatever year it is...
Would they use flashlights with shitty light OR hi-tech night vision goggles?
Opinions?
They dont use flashlights, they use shoulder-lamps... and Aliens has never been 'Hi-Tech'.. its kind of a modern space feel, same reason they dont use laser guns and teleportation, there your avarage soldiers not some kinda star-trek military.
W-Y should send syntetics, cyborgs (I love syndicate wars) or something like that. It would make much more sense, and "humans" could do trophy kills too.
Quote from: yaji on Jan 19, 2010, 12:36:23 PM
W-Y should send syntetics, cyborgs (I love syndicate wars) or something like that. It would make much more sense, and "humans" could do trophy kills too.
I think there are syntetics, in one of the screen shots with Wayland in it theres subtitles saying 'send in the combat androids' or something along those lines..
found it:
http://www.gry-online.pl/S055.asp?ID=177474
Yep, synths are a given.
Will there be only synths in SP or can you choose synthetics in MP as well?
But player should play as one 8)
Good preview Eidotemit. Do you have to push a button to recall the disc or does it automatically come back?
QuoteWant to have a match with just aliens versus predators? You can set up "friendly" matches where you're able to set all the game rules to your liking. You choose the map, available species, species ratios, team balancing, time limit, score limit, or even turn friendly fire on or off. Its up to you to build better worlds... for mayhem.
Good.
oh gawsh the hunter mode sounds awesome!!! It makes you feel like your the predator from the first movie i bet! ;D
That's an excellent report. Thanks Eidotemit!. ;)
Awesome review. You make me want to play even more. I didn't even think that would be possible. :D
Quote from: Dajanksta on Jan 19, 2010, 01:26:56 PM
oh gawsh the hunter mode sounds awesome!!! It makes you feel like your the predator from the first movie i bet! ;D
Hunter mode ? Hunt game mode ? Awesome ? Perhaps...
AvP2 had Hunt mode too... But it was "Better"... Because
the host could decide which race was hunter and which race
was prey and how many hunters and... This time it seems it
is fixed to 1 Hunter Pred vs X Prey Marines... ::)
The only improvement ( If it is an improvement ) is that now
the Pred have some one? minute timelimit to get a kill or he
be swapped back to Marine... maybe good.. maybe bad..
----
Also... I wonder if this timelimit is only in the first kill after you
become pred... or does each kill restart the timer or something
like that...
I think it might be good if the timer restarts when you kill so
you never get to wait "forever" for the perfect opportunity to
get an easy kill but must always actively hunt. (Though I think
one minute is propably too little...)
I'm glad you guys enjoyed the report! I certainly enjoyed writing it (especially the part where I got to play the game!).
@Brother:
The disk has a completely automatic return. The spear is recalled manually.
Quote from: Eidotemit on Jan 19, 2010, 06:01:00 PM
I'm glad you guys enjoyed the report! I certainly enjoyed writing it (especially the part where I got to play the game!).
@Brother:
The disk has a completely automatic return. The spear is recalled manually.
I take it its still possible to go and grab it from the wall or floor still tho?
I never experienced that, but I would assume so.
Niiice report man, MP looks like a blast cant wait to get my hands on it. Also is the new smartgun that powerful ? I know you only had it for a few seconds but is it that much of a threat were if an alien/predator saw a group of marines its in there best interest to take out the smartgunner first?
Smartgunner are strong. Do they take priority over other players? Depends on the circumstances, but on average I'd just suggest going after whomever is most convenient.
If theres a group of marines, I'd suggest avoiding them unless you're attacking in force.
Quote from: Eidotemit on Jan 20, 2010, 12:46:52 AM
Smartgunner are strong. Do they take priority over other players? Depends on the circumstances, but on average I'd just suggest going after whomever is most convenient.
If theres a group of marines, I'd suggest avoiding them unless you're attacking in force.
Cool thanks, I know pretty much alien and predator are gonna be the favs on multiplayer. So im guessin when what marines their are they might be inclined to work together if their gettin their ass kicked even though it is standard deathmatch.
Will there be different classes within the races?
Runner / Drone / Predalien for example.
Quote from: Kane on Jan 20, 2010, 03:35:26 PM
Will there be different classes within the races?
Runner / Drone / Predalien for example.
not so much class's, but there are skins for the above (except Predalien)
Skins are fine.
Different classes like in AvP2 would've been nice, though.
Added IGN's (http://uk.xbox360.ign.com/articles/106/1061700p1.html) new report.
About that game mode... what ever its name is this time.. where marines are trying to survive and aliens turn them into more alienz... I wonder if it is going to be the same old fashioned Alien rip marine apart = Marine become Alien... Or are they going to use that Harvest ability they implemented for SP in it... ::)
You mean the infestation MP mode? No harvest.
Quote from: Eidotemit on Jan 20, 2010, 05:24:12 PM
You mean the infestation MP mode? No harvest.
Shame... Implemented that kind of feature which seems quite fitting but don't use it...
Quote from: AJL on Jan 20, 2010, 05:26:28 PM
Quote from: Eidotemit on Jan 20, 2010, 05:24:12 PM
You mean the infestation MP mode? No harvest.
Shame... Implemented that kind of feature which seems quite fitting but don't use it...
It would have been cool to see. :-\
harvest animation is too slow for multiplayer and would lead to a lot of glitches. Plus a lot of people would just wanna use an alien right away instead of waiting for the chest burster to burst. and technically it would take a few hours before it would burst. So they would need to extend the mode's play time.
Quote from: affinity on Jan 20, 2010, 11:59:57 PM
harvest animation is too slow for multiplayer and would lead to a lot of glitches. Plus a lot of people would just wanna use an alien right away instead of waiting for the chest burster to burst. and technically it would take a few hours before it would burst. So they would need to extend the mode's play time.
I don't think that were meaning for all that to happen, just the harvest animation.
The problem I see with it, as cool as it would be, it would be hard as hell to pull off if the Marines were sticking together well and worked as a team.
All this discussion on harvesting.. much better than a flying egg to bring the hugger, IMO. ;D
Serously.. Next could be grabbing and dragging dudes to dark places with plenty of eggs.
Dunno if it's been posted already but there is a new interview with the developers on the games heritage to AvP 99 up on GameSpot (front page) ;)
its posted
Right, just saw it ::)
New multiplayer preview at GamesOn.net (http://games.on.net/article/7909/Preview_Alien_vs_Predator_Multiplayer_Event).
thx man
Woot :D . Thanks, keep 'em coming!
Next week we find out more multiplay modes. Cool.
Quote from: kvon17 on Jan 21, 2010, 08:50:14 PM
Next week we find out more multiplay modes. Cool.
Grr, I was about to say that! >:(
I thought they already showed all 7.
Deathmatch
Team Deathmatch
Species Team Deathmatch
Infestation
Predator Hunt
Survivor
and Domination/capture the base.
Quote from: affinity on Jan 21, 2010, 10:25:15 PM
I thought they already showed all 7.
Deathmatch
Team Deathmatch
Species Team Deathmatch
Infestation
Predator Hunt
Survivor
and Domination/capture the base.
Well, they didn't really
show Domination.
That list looks ugly, the top 3 are a variation of 1 mode. Evac, the next good news since dedicated servers.
Quote from: Brother on Jan 21, 2010, 10:31:32 PM
That list looks ugly, the top 3 are a variation of 1 mode. Evac, the next good news since dedicated servers.
Would be very nice if they include it.
Quote from: Brother on Jan 21, 2010, 10:31:32 PM
That list looks ugly, the top 3 are a variation of 1 mode. Evac, the next good news since dedicated servers.
I could never play Evac on AvP2. I really want to try it.
Saturday...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XdCwC_Soq9k - Gauntlet, very good map for marines vs aliens
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8JoCBY_7SRo&feature=related - Industry, personal favorite
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sNXOiRx1a0s&feature=related - Jumgle, made for marines vs preds but works with aliens too
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TYPeF-uMoZM&feature=related - Evac trailer
My career has kept me from getting excited about a game in awhile so I wanted to ask when do reviews start coming in usually for games nowadays? When's the earliest we can start expecting them?
We can use this thread for keeping track of the reviews as well. I'll edit it so any reviews that come in will be here on the first page.
i think shortly after launch of the game.
Quote from: Inferno on Jan 22, 2010, 12:38:56 AM
i think shortly after launch of the game.
Do certain games embargo the reviews beforehand like the film industry? Do any games allow reviews to pop up before release?
Quote from: Giger_Incubator on Jan 22, 2010, 12:40:26 AM
Quote from: Inferno on Jan 22, 2010, 12:38:56 AM
i think shortly after launch of the game.
Do certain games embargo the reviews beforehand like the film industry? Do any games allow reviews to pop up before release?
Sometimes.
It depends on the publisher but don't worry. I secured a review copy for the site already (Hicks will be doing the review), you will be the first to know when is the embargo once SEGA let us know and we're allowed to.
ikarop, you're the man. 8)
just Species Team Deathmatch, Infestation, Predator Hunt and Survivor are enough to have optimal fun for the next couple years. ;D
Year.
aliensvspredator.net MP review: http://www.aliensvspredator.net/avp-multiplayer-preview
They state you can get hicks and Hudson skins. just so you all know, they're wrong.
yeah read the MP preview. Wasn't very well written, and the names for the predator skins...Dark, Stalker, King, Lord, Spartan, Alien Head (DLC)... could they have been a bit more descriptive?
Yeah, descriptions =Nice.
Plus this obviously wasn't a full list, where were the female marines and the Predalien (I hope there's Predalien)
IncGamers (http://www.incgamers.com/Previews/164/aliens-vs-predator-hands-on-preview/1), Gameplanet (http://www.gameplanet.co.nz/playstation/games/160689/previews/134396.Aliens-vs.-Predator) and TimesOnline (http://timesonline.typepad.com/technology/2010/01/aliens-v-predator-preview.html) previews added.
Quote from: Corporal Hicks on Jan 22, 2010, 12:24:58 PM
They state you can get hicks and Hudson skins. just so you all know, they're wrong.
I think it's safe to trust you more than them, but still that's a bit puzzling.
I mean, these guys are probably diehard fans of the movies, just like most of us, so I'm a bit suprised they would make such a mistake.
I wonder what characters got mistaken for Hicks and Hudson.
Not the first time they are wrong. Besides I believe they just gathered info from the previews and Eurogamer/MLG, which is really nice but there shouldn't be anything you don't know already.
Its taken directly from personal experience while playing the game... (The demo).
Yup, that's what I said (Eurogamer/MLG) :P.
No.
So only they saw the Hudson... skins?
Quote from: Brother on Jan 22, 2010, 08:04:39 PM
So only they saw the Hudson... skins?
Maybe they are just similar ? Not literally ? ...
Maybe they should open their eyes before they talk? What is the goal, bring more people on the site? I don't get it.
It's simply a mistake, no agenda behind it at all.
We're not professionals, just fans of the games, and we're unused to this kind of thing unlike avp-galaxy.
Anyways that's what can happen when classic names are used for MP player names/IDs. previewers start to think there are skins of them in the game.
Everyone makes mistakes in previews. Even the fans! :P
Of course, even IGN and Eurogamer make mistakes, I'm sure we're entitled to a few.
I really don't understand the sudden rivalry between our two communities, it's not as if it's a competition, and both sites are very different.
Maybe we should just chillax and enjoy the peace while it lasts as things will certainly heat up when the game's released.
Is there a walking control for the PC version?. This is something hideous I've been missing in games like, for example, Avatar.
Didn't know where else to put this.
Eidotemit & Hicks
A big issue for me playing avp2 is that the predator was the same speed as the marine. Even when the marine is moving backwards he is the same speed as the predator. In this new game, are they the same speed without sprint? It's hard to tell using the gameplay vids. Are they the same speed when they sprint? Would I be able to run a marine down to skewer him?
Also could I still focus jump somewhere that is the same plane as me. (predator is on a football field, could he focus jump all 100 yards) So in essence I can sprint, focus jump, sprint, focus jump, to move as fast as possible? If you guys tested the focus jump on the same plane, you think he can jump around 20 meters ahead of himself?
Ikarop
I made a previous post asking about the weaponry/gadgets and asking if we've seen all of it, and you said you would check if we have seen everything. Any updates? Did we see the hack device? I think I remember a faint flash in some trailer where a marine sticks this PDA looking thing into a slot...
This thread is OK for questions.
QuoteI made a previous post asking about the weaponry/gadgets and asking if we've seen all of it, and you said you would check if we have seen everything. Any updates? Did we see the hack device? I think I remember a faint flash in some trailer where a marine sticks this PDA looking thing into a slot...
Ups I totally forgot sorry. Yup, we have seen all the weapons already.
Regarding the device, yup:
Concept art:
(https://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg6.imageshack.us%2Fimg6%2F9480%2Favpconcepti.jpg&hash=9e9b1a96c0528febaf3b40bc2c8348e1421bd090)
In-game:
(https://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg682.imageshack.us%2Fimg682%2F4391%2F83520718.jpg&hash=56054a558b055de65ea3808cede9c2048148f37d)
Thanks for the quick reply, they changed the design of the hack device, looks nifty. I think its late in the game to safely presume that there is no welding torch either. =P, would be nice to weld a door and have aliens break through/create a bottle neck effect for survivor. (like in killing floor, you weld a door and the door has a percentage, if it gets to 0, the door comes down) welding was also a big thing in the aliens film as well. all marines need welding experiance to finish the academy =P
Quote from: Inferno on Jan 22, 2010, 10:54:08 PM
Didn't know where else to put this.
A big issue for me playing avp2 is that the predator was the same speed as the marine. Even when the marine is moving backwards he is the same speed as the predator. In this new game, are they the same speed without sprint? It's hard to tell using the gameplay vids. Are they the same speed when they sprint? Would I be able to run a marine down to skewer him?
Also could I still focus jump somewhere that is the same plane as me. (predator is on a football field, could he focus jump all 100 yards) So in essence I can sprint, focus jump, sprint, focus jump, to move as fast as possible? If you guys tested the focus jump on the same plane, you think he can jump around 20 meters ahead of himself?
If you watch some of the newer MLG gameplay videos, you can see that the predator sprints very fast, not as quick as the alien, but would easily out-pace a marine with no problem. I'm also sure I've seen straight horizontal focus-jumps before (tree branches at roughly the same height), very large distances too, well over 50ft leaps.
yeah it's so kickass! I'm really loving how the jumping looks and works! very fun and useful!
Here is another preview: http://www.incgamers.com/Previews/164/aliens-vs-predator-hands-on-preview
QuoteKey to the game's appeal is the online multi-player, which has seven different options, including Domination, Survivor, Infestation and a variety of Death Matches.
Pulled that from here...
http://timesonline.typepad.com/technology/2010/01/aliens-v-predator-preview.html
Domination...what? That supposed to be another name for king of the hill or something?
Quote from: Inferno on Jan 23, 2010, 09:23:37 AM
QuoteKey to the game's appeal is the online multi-player, which has seven different options, including Domination, Survivor, Infestation and a variety of Death Matches.
Pulled that from here...
http://timesonline.typepad.com/technology/2010/01/aliens-v-predator-preview.html
Domination...what? That supposed to be another name for king of the hill or something?
3 Control points.
Quote from: 88Chaz88 on Jan 22, 2010, 08:35:45 PM
I really don't understand the sudden rivalry between our two communities, it's not as if it's a competition, and both sites are very different.
It's not rivalry. It's just correcting mis-information so everyone is aware.
Corporal Hicks – Following the recent reveal of the pre-order skins and confirmation of DLC, fans are eager to know if we'll be seeing any maps based off locations from the films? And I understand it'd depend on whether you were authorized to use their likeness or not but what about skins based on the characters like Hudson or Hicks?
Alex Moore – You're not going to get anything directly based on the movies...
Corporal Hicks – ...Likeness issues?
Alex Moore – Yeah. That's more the Colonial Marines territory than the Aliens or Predator territory. So no, you're not gonna get any of that. But DLC, any big games have DLC integrated, making sure people hang onto the game rather than trading it back in. To get through submission these days you need to have a DLC pack ready for the release point so it can come out on time. Anything further into the future than that we're still negotiating. Fingers crossed.http://www.avpgalaxy.net/website/articles/rebellion-studio-visit-part-2/
At the multiplayer events the various game profiles were named Hicks, Hudson, Bishop and Gorman. They may have simply got those mixed up.
anyone know how Predator changes to Alien vision (Green) mode?
there is only one button for vision mode and players who tested the game only switched to Infra red (Blue) mode.
So I guess double tap the button for the other vision mode? or hold the button and a direction?
Quick Tap switches between Special and Normal mode and holding
down the button switches between the Special modes perhaps ?
Quote from: AJL on Jan 23, 2010, 04:26:24 PM
Quick Tap switches between Special and Normal mode and holding
down the button switches between the Special modes perhaps ?
That seems kind of annoying just to switch to the Alien vision mode. Hmmm if the select button wasn't used to display scores, maybe that could have been it. Or hey how about L3 or R3? I know one of them is used for sprinting but I don't think the other function is used.
or maybe holding Focus and pressing Vision works. or something.
It doesn't cycle 1 > 2 > 3. Pressing it twice goes 1 > 2 > 1so there is probably a trick to it.
Of course I don't KNOW how it works... Personally I would prefer 2 or 3 button system.
One button toggles between Normal Mode and Special Mode and One button cycles the
Special modes. (And if there are more than two special modes then there might be third
button which also cycles the special modes but in rerverse...)
But IF there is only one button... Then I am guessing it is some system where quick tap
of the button does one thing and holding it down does another...
I think the best way to do it would be with two variables:
Variable A is 'Focus/Normal Mode', and isn't actually a variable. Its value is always one, and it's activated by pressing the 'focus' button.
Variable B is 'Thermal/Alien Mode'. By default, it's set to 1, which is thermal mode. Pressing the button gives this authority over Variable A. Pressing it a second time alters to the variable to 2, changing it to Alien mode. Pressing the button when Variable 2 has both authority and is set to 2 turns the variable back to 1.
This way, the game would remember which vision mode you used last. Since there's a separate button to enter normal/focus mode, which cancels the special vision modes, the first press of the vision-changing button would go back to the last special vision mode you used.
I'm fairly sure this is how they'll do it, seeing as though there's a separate button for focus mode and from what we've seen, focus mode cancels the special vision modes.
New scans from Igroimania. The article is just a general preview, they talk a bit about Lance but don't reveal anything about his role in the game.
(https://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg64.imageshack.us%2Fimg64%2F5885%2Figroimanialite2201038.th.jpg&hash=05d6d2756e43faa40df32f95699502389ccddd22) (http://img64.imageshack.us/i/igroimanialite2201038.jpg/)(https://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg99.imageshack.us%2Fimg99%2F8494%2Figroimanialite2201039.th.jpg&hash=e25bfd0423a9e94fc4fb6f9293210ce81ebe8a4a) (http://img99.imageshack.us/i/igroimanialite2201039.jpg/)(https://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg138.imageshack.us%2Fimg138%2F6187%2Figroimanialite2201040.th.jpg&hash=a46fa14f03430bfc1a53a2b0bd33fe972cff6c11) (http://img138.imageshack.us/i/igroimanialite2201040.jpg/)
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Thanks for posting these.
The promotional artworks are really cool. Shame all the ingame shots are weeks old.
if anyone here is from UK, grab the news of the world newspaper, there advertising AvP in the gadgets section, its not alot of info but hay.. its in there! (it also has 2 screenshots, 1 from pred heat vision grabbing a marine and 1 from Marine campagin with a famethrower flaming an Alien.
heres what it says:
'EXCLUSIVE SNEAK PEEK'
In space no one can hear you scream - but they can in your living room!
And there's set to be lots of high-pitched wailing going on with the upcoming release of Aliens vs Predator on the PC, PS3 and Xbox 360.
GadgiTs was treated to an exclusive sneak peek at AvP and we were blown away - like one of those ugly aliens getting on the wrong side of Sigourney Weaver.
Sega serve up this tasty FPS which delivers THREE single player campaigns and hours of three-way multiplayer blasting. The deadly jungles and swamps look stunning and there are some seriously scary moments when you play as Marine. Weapons on the Predator are groovy and Aliens jaws are deadly. AvP proves that good things come in threes.
New MP preview over aliensvspredator.net
http://www.aliensvspredator.net/avp-multiplayer-preview
Quote from: Some_Guy on Jan 24, 2010, 07:08:07 PM
New MP preview over aliensvspredator.net
http://www.aliensvspredator.net/avp-multiplayer-preview
Old
New Multiplayer preview at Techday (http://www.techday.co.nz/gameconsole/news/aliens-vs-predator-mp-hands-on-and-video-inte/15193/2/?utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter) & Nzgamer (http://www.nzgamer.com/ps3/previews/850/aliens-vs-predator-multiplayer-preview.html).
Quote from: ikarop on Jan 24, 2010, 11:03:07 PM
New Multiplayer preview at Techday (http://www.techday.co.nz/gameconsole/news/aliens-vs-predator-mp-hands-on-and-video-inte/15193/2/?utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter) & Nzgamer (http://www.com/ps3/previews/850/aliens-vs-predator-multiplayer-preview.html).
Preview at palgn don't sound to good..... I think it is possibly the worst account of the game i have read to date.
Can't win them all i suppose!
Quote from: ikarop on Jan 24, 2010, 11:03:07 PM
New Multiplayer preview at Techday (http://www.techday.co.nz/gameconsole/news/aliens-vs-predator-mp-hands-on-and-video-inte/15193/2/?utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter) & Nzgamer (http://www.com/ps3/previews/850/aliens-vs-predator-multiplayer-preview.html).
Can't find the NzGamer one?
Quote from: Corporal Hicks on Jan 23, 2010, 11:35:15 AM
It's not rivalry. It's just correcting mis-information so everyone is aware.
Then perhaps handling it with a little more respect than...
Quote from: ikarop on Jan 22, 2010, 06:13:45 PM
Not the first time they are wrong.
... would be better for both communities.
Quote from: 88Chaz88 on Jan 25, 2010, 12:40:12 PM
Quote from: Corporal Hicks on Jan 23, 2010, 11:35:15 AM
It's not rivalry. It's just correcting mis-information so everyone is aware.
Then perhaps handling it with a little more respect than...
Quote from: ikarop on Jan 22, 2010, 06:13:45 PM
Not the first time they are wrong.
... would be better for both communities.
hmmm... i think someones a member of the other site..lol
There information (not all of it) is false, like being able to play hicks and other movie characters in MP, its miss-leading. Ikarop was just staiting the facts, its not the first time that site has posted rumor's as 'OFFICAL NEWS'..
Quote from: GrimyGhost on Jan 25, 2010, 12:42:49 PM
hmmm... i think someones a member of the other site..lol
There information (not all of it) is false, like being able to play hicks and other movie characters in MP, its miss-leading. Ikarop was just staiting the facts, its not the first time that site has posted rumor's as 'OFFICAL NEWS'..
I didn't think it was a secret. I was one of those that went to the Rebellion studio tour on behalf of AvPnet.
Anyway there's a way to deal with situations where someone is wrong that doesn't involve rudeness.
Brute force.
:)
In all seriousness, an avp-galaxy vs AvPnet match would be awesome.
I'm game. But are we hitting faces or what?
I'm up for that also.
Quote from: Brother on Jan 25, 2010, 01:22:41 PM
I'm game. But are we hitting faces or what?
waist up only, i need my dangler's (The miss's wants kids in a couple years :-\)
No hair pulling too and shoes off.
Quote from: 88Chaz88 on Jan 25, 2010, 01:20:58 PM
In all seriousness, an avp-galaxy vs AvPnet match would be awesome.
Mixed Species? :P
Just for you, GrimyGhost :):
(https://dl.dropbox.com/u/2561706/promo.jpg) (https://dl.dropbox.com/u/2561706/promo.jpg)
Quote from: ikarop on Jan 25, 2010, 04:53:29 PM
Just for you, GrimyGhost :):
(https://dl.dropbox.com/u/2561706/promo.jpg) (https://dl.dropbox.com/u/2561706/promo.jpg)
Oh he is so about to spit in that Aliens mouth.
Most intense staring competition... EVAR.
Quote from: ikarop on Jan 25, 2010, 04:53:29 PM
Just for you, GrimyGhost :):
(https://dl.dropbox.com/u/2561706/promo.jpg) (https://dl.dropbox.com/u/2561706/promo.jpg)
why thank you sir! love it! thats one angry dude.. ;)
Either that or he's just been ambushed on the toilet.
I'm sorry. :-[
Quote from: ikarop on Jan 25, 2010, 04:53:29 PM
(https://dl.dropbox.com/u/2561706/promo.jpg) (https://dl.dropbox.com/u/2561706/promo.jpg)
Awesome.
Quote from: TJ Doc on Jan 25, 2010, 04:59:25 PM
Either that or he's just been ambushed on the toilet.
I'm sorry. :-[
lol , good 1
Uhh the Marine is clearly dead now. RIP.
Quote from: Chris!(($$))! on Jan 25, 2010, 06:35:28 PM
Uhh the Marine is clearly dead now. RIP.
Maybe not. Maybe he kicked the Alien away. :P
Quote from: Ghost Rider LSOV on Jan 25, 2010, 06:38:15 PM
Quote from: Chris!(($$))! on Jan 25, 2010, 06:35:28 PM
Uhh the Marine is clearly dead now. RIP.
Maybe not. Maybe he kicked the Alien away. :P
yea with his muscular foot :P
Quote from: ikarop on Jan 25, 2010, 04:53:29 PM
Just for you, GrimyGhost :):
(https://dl.dropbox.com/u/2561706/promo.jpg) (https://dl.dropbox.com/u/2561706/promo.jpg)
That is my new desktop screen. yeaaaaaaah dats the shit.. i assume swearing is aloud ere? sry if it isnt :-X
Quote from: Hollowhero on Jan 25, 2010, 06:55:46 PM
That is my new desktop screen. yeaaaaaaah dats the shit.. i assume swearing is aloud ere? sry if it isnt :-X
This one is a bit old (http://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/index.php?topic=27430.0), but now you mention it. Maybe someone can make a wallpaper out of it:
(https://dl.dropbox.com/u/2561706/avp_bg.jpg) (https://dl.dropbox.com/u/2561706/avp_bg.jpg)
Quote from: ikarop on Jan 25, 2010, 04:53:29 PM
Just for you, GrimyGhost :):
(https://dl.dropbox.com/u/2561706/promo.jpg) (https://dl.dropbox.com/u/2561706/promo.jpg)
Thats the human character we play as right Ikarop? If so, awesome, because he looks badass!
Quote from: Remonster on Jan 25, 2010, 07:55:25 PM
Quote from: ikarop on Jan 25, 2010, 04:53:29 PM
Just for you, GrimyGhost :):
(https://dl.dropbox.com/u/2561706/promo.jpg) (https://dl.dropbox.com/u/2561706/promo.jpg)
Thats the human character we play as right Ikarop? If so, awesome, because he looks badass!
Looks generic to me!
Generic is good for immersion.
I have more trouble to relate to a female character (since I'm male), for instance.
It has been mentioned already (around August) but today, Steam has announced their support for AvP.
Quote
Two highly anticipated titles from SEGA, Aliens vs. Predator and Napoleon: Total War will ship with Steamworks support at retail and online, including among other features, Achievements, Matchmaking, Leaderboards, Stats, and Cloud. Aliens vs. Predator will ship on Steam and at retail in mid-February. Napoleon: Total War will ship on Steam and at retail in late February.
http://store.steampowered.com/news/3367/
Quote from: 88Chaz88 on Jan 25, 2010, 12:40:12 PM
Then perhaps handling it with a little more respect than...
We call them straight and simple. Ikarop isn't wrong. In the best interest of our community, people need to be aware that it is mis-information and not an isolated incident (there wont be a PredAlien in the game for example) and I don't want people going around believing the wrong information.
Is rebellion using their site to throw out misinformation?
Quote from: Corporal Hicks on Jan 26, 2010, 07:49:52 AM
We call them straight and simple. Ikarop isn't wrong. In the best interest of our community, people need to be aware that it is mis-information and not an isolated incident (there wont be a PredAlien in the game for example) and I don't want people going around believing the wrong information.
Until the game is out none of us know for sure, so making it out that either of us are wrong is a bold statement whether or not you want to handle the statement with the verbal finesse of a baboon with downs syndrome.
When the information that he is, and we are, reporting on has come directly and repeatedly from the developers or PR representatives of those developing the game, it is perfectly within his or anyones else's ability and right to accurately call out and dispute misinformation.
Quote from: 88Chaz88 on Jan 26, 2010, 09:59:01 AM
Until the game is out none of us know for sure, so making it out that either of us are wrong is a bold statement whether or not you want to handle the statement with the verbal finesse of a baboon with downs syndrome.
The information about there being no movie based characters in the game came directly from our interview. Which I quoted. The PredAlien is in a screenshot released by that foreign site...you know, the one who released almost a 100 pictures from the very same build we played. ;)
And as said above, all our information comes directly from the developers and PR so if you don't like us disputing the accuracy of your reports, research your articles better before you release them.
It is a generic character. The only "badass" thing about them, is that they're making an angry face, just like most other human beings can. :)
With that said, I really sort of wish those faces were a bit further apart. The Alien's beautifully done, but I can't make an icon out of it, because the human's face would get cropped in.
Quote from: Corporal Hicks on Jan 26, 2010, 10:10:55 AM
The information about there being no movie based characters in the game came directly from our interview. Which I quoted. The PredAlien is in a screenshot released by that foreign site...you know, the one who released almost a 100 pictures from the very same build we played. ;)
And as said above, all our information comes directly from the developers and PR so if you don't like us disputing the accuracy of your reports, research your articles better before you release them.
I wasn't arguing about you disputing them. Anyway when have we ever said there'll be a PredAlien? We were specifically told there wasn't.
Quote from: 88Chaz88 on Jan 26, 2010, 10:52:08 AM
Anyway when have we ever said there'll be a PredAlien? We were specifically told there wasn't.
Quote from: Corporal Hicks on Jan 26, 2010, 10:10:55 AM
The PredAlien is in a screenshot released by that foreign site...you know, the one who released almost a 100 pictures from the very same build we played. ;)
I believe that was the the problem.
Quote from: Eidotemit on Jan 26, 2010, 10:58:31 AM
Quote from: 88Chaz88 on Jan 26, 2010, 10:52:08 AM
Anyway when have we ever said there'll be a PredAlien? We were specifically told there wasn't.
Quote from: Corporal Hicks on Jan 26, 2010, 10:10:55 AM
The PredAlien is in a screenshot released by that foreign site...you know, the one who released almost a 100 pictures from the very same build we played. ;)
I believe that was the the problem.
I suspect miscommunication rather than misinformation.
Quote from: Eidotemit on Jan 26, 2010, 10:58:31 AM
I believe that was the the problem.
Okay, well that has nothing to do with us.
Oh and your message system needs updating, it should pop-up on screen if you have a message. Makes it much better for giving out warnings. ;)
Quote from: 88Chaz88 on Jan 26, 2010, 11:03:45 AM
Okay, well that has nothing to do with us.
You still supplied it. You should have confirmed it. Trophy list, screenshots and our information contradict that.
QuoteOh and your message system needs updating, it should pop-up on screen if you have a message. Makes it much better for giving out warnings. ;)
Oh, I definitely agree. I'll suggest it to boss, there may be an add-on. Thanks for the suggestion.
I was only being straight forward with what I put. I don't go out of my way to be hostile, I go out of my way to ensure everyone is correctly informed.
Quote from: Corporal Hicks on Jan 26, 2010, 11:13:32 AM
You still supplied it. You should have confirmed it. Trophy list, screenshots and our information contradict that.
It was probably in community news. That can get posted by any member and discussed but is not condoned by us. Maybe we ought to make that clearer.
Quote from: Corporal Hicks on Jan 26, 2010, 11:13:32 AMOh, I definitely agree. I'll suggest it to boss, there may be an add-on. Thanks for the suggestion.
I was only being straight forward with what I put. I don't go out of my way to be hostile, I go out of my way to ensure everyone is correctly informed.
I guess you deserve a couple of shots as I inadvertantly mentioned you "can't shoot for shit" a while ago...
Quote from: 88Chaz88 on Jan 26, 2010, 11:26:27 AM
It was probably in community news. That can get posted by any member and discussed but is not condoned by us. Maybe we ought to make that clearer.
Maybe you ought.
Quote
I guess you deserve a couple of shots as I inadvertantly mentioned you "can't shoot for shit" a while ago...
We're here to provide the community with high quality articles/reviews and all the latest news. We're not here to have a pissing competition. If you choose to refer to representitives of your fellow sites as such, fine. Just doesn't come off as professional.
Quote from: Corporal Hicks on Jan 26, 2010, 11:40:23 AM
We're here to provide the community with high quality articles/reviews and all the latest news. We're not here to have a pissing competition. If you choose to refer to representitives of your fellow sites as such, fine. Just doesn't come off as professional.
Yeah mate, I'm sorry, shouldn't have said it. Just mentioned it in passing naming no-one, but then you came ou with your preview and our members put 2 and 2 together. Just want to say it wasn't me trying to be malicious or anything.
acording to IGN phil jupitus (UK stand-up comic and comedy show panal member) is doing voice work for AvP.
(https://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.whats-on-magazine.com%2Fwp-content%2Fphil-jupitus-18-of-38.jpg&hash=0e723fd2fb4cc4da2f5e03dc12b1e99189108a6b)
Quote from: GrimyGhost on Jan 26, 2010, 12:05:28 PM
acording to IGN phil jupitus (UK stand-up comic and comedy show panal member) is doing voice work for AvP.
http://www.whats-on-magazine.com/wp-content/phil-jupitus-18-of-38.jpg
No way. He's quite funny true but his voice is not in any way suited i wouldn't have said.....
WUM
Quote from: LogansFolly on Jan 26, 2010, 12:15:56 PM
Quote from: GrimyGhost on Jan 26, 2010, 12:05:28 PM
acording to IGN phil jupitus (UK stand-up comic and comedy show panal member) is doing voice work for AvP.
http://www.whats-on-magazine.com/wp-content/phil-jupitus-18-of-38.jpg
No way. He's quite funny true but his voice is not in any way suited i wouldn't have said.....
WUM
my guess is he will be a scientist or an enginer or somthing like that..
Quote from: GrimyGhost on Jan 26, 2010, 12:35:36 PM
Quote from: LogansFolly on Jan 26, 2010, 12:15:56 PM
Quote from: GrimyGhost on Jan 26, 2010, 12:05:28 PM
acording to IGN phil jupitus (UK stand-up comic and comedy show panal member) is doing voice work for AvP.
http://www.whats-on-magazine.com/wp-content/phil-jupitus-18-of-38.jpg
No way. He's quite funny true but his voice is not in any way suited i wouldn't have said.....
WUM
my guess is he will be a scientist or an enginer or somthing like that..
Maybe a secret comedic character that is hidden in one of the levels ala the Halo games? I used to love finding those little easter eggs.
Hehe, nah.. hope he's been chestbursted if it's true :P
Quote from: Drewid on Jan 26, 2010, 11:03:00 AM
Quote from: Eidotemit on Jan 26, 2010, 10:58:31 AM
Quote from: 88Chaz88 on Jan 26, 2010, 10:52:08 AM
Anyway when have we ever said there'll be a PredAlien? We were specifically told there wasn't.
Quote from: Corporal Hicks on Jan 26, 2010, 10:10:55 AM
The PredAlien is in a screenshot released by that foreign site...you know, the one who released almost a 100 pictures from the very same build we played. ;)
I believe that was the the problem.
I suspect miscommunication rather than misinformation.
Indeed, already said you guys heard it wrong. Everyone can make mistakes, you just need to contrast your information tho. Anyway, this is not the place to discuss it. 88Chaz88, If you have any comments about this, please PM our staff.
Forgive me for my ignorance, but when did they take out the predalien? I'm confused right now since they had it waaaaay back during the pred e3 video.
They didn't take it out. It was just a miscommunication between one of fansites and Rebellion.
Edit: New scans from Hobby Consolas (Spanish). The article is just a general (and positive) preview, It doesn't add anything new but there's a few new screenshots. Spoiler alert: The Queen is in thr 3rd page.
(https://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg246.imageshack.us%2Fimg246%2F6899%2F57970676.th.jpg&hash=c2172d14f7533972e99b9222e54504e97266e316) (http://img246.imageshack.us/i/57970676.jpg/)(https://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg403.imageshack.us%2Fimg403%2F7690%2F96310460.th.jpg&hash=34dbb9ed30e68b8701653559c8bba7ff4f2bb8b8) (http://img403.imageshack.us/i/96310460.jpg/)(https://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg5.imageshack.us%2Fimg5%2F3590%2F25109613.th.jpg&hash=74600d1457ad37033cb6d71d5e734e2d5c453c39) (http://img5.imageshack.us/i/25109613.jpg/)(https://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg168.imageshack.us%2Fimg168%2F1454%2F97936219.th.jpg&hash=f784653ad34cf75e414a74d6b5efa0144cb76ed0) (http://img168.imageshack.us/i/97936219.jpg/)
HURRY PLEASE! ;)
Very lovely model. Looks better on the TV but she is really detailed and aged. Homage to some of the original AvP concepts I reckon.
There is a smart gun on the first page :)
Quote from: ikarop on Jan 26, 2010, 05:58:27 PM
Just got a a magazine with a image of the queen in all its glorious. Posting it in a few minutes.
Edit: New scans from Hobby Consolas (Spanish). The article is just a general (and positive) preview, It doesn't add anything new but there's a few new screenshots.
(https://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg246.imageshack.us%2Fimg246%2F6899%2F57970676.th.jpg&hash=c2172d14f7533972e99b9222e54504e97266e316) (http://img246.imageshack.us/i/57970676.jpg/)(https://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg403.imageshack.us%2Fimg403%2F7690%2F96310460.th.jpg&hash=34dbb9ed30e68b8701653559c8bba7ff4f2bb8b8) (http://img403.imageshack.us/i/96310460.jpg/)(https://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg5.imageshack.us%2Fimg5%2F3590%2F25109613.th.jpg&hash=74600d1457ad37033cb6d71d5e734e2d5c453c39) (http://img5.imageshack.us/i/25109613.jpg/)(https://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg168.imageshack.us%2Fimg168%2F1454%2F97936219.th.jpg&hash=f784653ad34cf75e414a74d6b5efa0144cb76ed0) (http://img168.imageshack.us/i/97936219.jpg/)
Never thought i'd ask this but...why is she orange?
Lighting. Can't remember from what.
La Fuerza Bruta, nuff said.
Quote from: Corporal Hicks on Jan 26, 2010, 06:20:39 PM
Lighting. Can't remember from what.
Spoiler
Fire from the tanks around her that you destroy.
Queen looks very nice. Also looks like she's seen some rough times.
New Multiplayer Preview at OXM (http://www.oxmonline.com/article/features/-mag/alien-vs-predator?page=0%2C0).
Quote from: ikarop on Jan 27, 2010, 02:40:07 AM
New Multiplayer Preview at OXM (http://www.oxmonline.com/article/features/-mag/alien-vs-predator?page=0%2C0).
Always bringing us new info, thanks ikarop.
It's unbelievable, the guy never rests!
Quote from: ikarop on Jan 27, 2010, 02:40:07 AM
New Multiplayer Preview at OXM (http://www.oxmonline.com/article/features/-mag/alien-vs-predator?page=0%2C0).
This will be my lunch time read at work today. You da man!! Thank you for you hard work
Quote from: ikarop on Jan 27, 2010, 02:40:07 AM
New Multiplayer Preview at OXM (http://www.oxmonline.com/article/features/-mag/alien-vs-predator?page=0%2C0).
Can u grow some more ( and post them ) ? :)
thx alot man ;)
Quote from: Revenant on Jan 27, 2010, 01:25:20 PM
Quote from: ikarop on Jan 27, 2010, 02:40:07 AM
New Multiplayer Preview at OXM (http://www.oxmonline.com/article/features/-mag/alien-vs-predator?page=0%2C0).
Can u grow some more ( and post them ) ? :)
thx alot man ;)
but I enjoy being a chestbuster :(.
Too late! You're an alien now. :D
Quote from: ikarop on Jan 27, 2010, 05:42:23 PM
Quote from: Revenant on Jan 27, 2010, 01:25:20 PM
Quote from: ikarop on Jan 27, 2010, 02:40:07 AM
New Multiplayer Preview at OXM (http://www.oxmonline.com/article/features/-mag/alien-vs-predator?page=0%2C0).
Can u grow some more ( and post them ) ? :)
thx alot man ;)
but I enjoy being a chestbuster :(.
U'll enjoy being an adult alien better :)
New interview at Gameplanet (http://www.gameplanet.co.nz/pc/games/159911/features/134416.20100128.Aliens-vs.-Predator---we-speak-with-Rebellion/).
Rebellion keen on AvP motion control support at CVG (http://www.computerandvideogames.com/article.php?id=232977).
Hmm... using motion controls to simulate claws? Now that would be interesting.
they are crazy to give motion control a thumbs up. but I think that is not their honest opinion.
they just want to be on innovators' good side when it comes to new technology.
Motion control killed the Wii for me. SSBBrawl would be unfun and unplayable if it didn't support the gamecube controller. and even New Super Mario Wii is annoying with some movements requiring moving the wiimote a certain way.
and motion control without a controller is even WORSE. (even Nintendo rejects the idea. but
I still blame them for starting this stupid trend that would ruin the industry if games made these things mandatory. Whether it's a wiimote or hands free.)
Motion control will never be as perfect, responsive and accurate like a handheld digital controller.
Motion control also forces people to play games for less hours, which means less fun and more fatigue/tiredness. If people want exercise they shouldn't want games to turn into that.
A lot of people don't even have room to be using some motion control to play a game. motion control can lead to accidents, broken furniture and even fights between siblings.
It would also escalate frustation in gaming. as well as dumb down/simplify game design further.
More MP previews, this time at Xbox360achievements (http://www.xbox360achievements.org/news/news-4265-Aliens-vs--Predator-Multiplayer-Hands-On--The-Battle-of-the-Species.html).
that preview is pretty good in that despite the criticisms, they turn the tables and explain why things are the way they are and why that's a good thing.
The only thing they didn't contest as a good idea was the Marine balancing. They still think the Marines are too weak compared to the other species. But like they said, Marines work best in numbers and that's the way it should be. And they confirm Marines with skill can still kill Aliens and Predators, so they are probably just overwhelmed by the advantages of the other 2 species. It's just one of their casual habits of wanting to feel "super" instead of trying to pronounce something difficult to them like "teamwork" and winning as the underdogs.
Plus Marines arsenal is really underrated. they already have the tools to possibly be the one left standing.
Three new interviews with Dave Brickley at Spong (http://spong.com/feature/10110049/Interview-Aliens-vs-Predator-Rebellions-David-Brickley), Play.tm (http://play.tm/interview/28775/aliens-vs-predator-interview-with-dave-brickley/) & Strategyinformer (http://www.strategyinformer.com/pc/aliensvspredator/interview.html).
Edit:
IGN's new multiplayer preview here (http://pc.ign.com/articles/106/1064872p1.html).
Also, CONSOL featured a special issue for AvP:
Scans: http://yfrog.com/08consolspecialaliensvsprjx
There's nothing really new there expect for the screens but there's something interesting on Chris Kingsley's interview:
QuoteAre there more actors from the movies?
Yes, I won't say whom or in what role but there are guarantees for one or two more cameos.
We only know about one which was revealed in our preview.
hmm... one or two more cameos? It would be great if Weyland would be watching some old video logs of Ripley talking about the Alien. I wonder who else could make a good cameo. Seeing Dutrch on a Monitor screen would be great too, since his encounter with the Predator would be the first ever documented. Or maybe some of the other survivors from the AvP Movies? Miss Yutani could even get a mention.
Quote from: Dusk on Jan 29, 2010, 12:23:40 AM
hmm... one or two more cameos? It would be great if Weyland would be watching some old video logs of Ripley talking about the Alien. I wonder who else could make a good cameo. Seeing Dutrch on a Monitor screen would be great too, since his encounter with the Predator would be the first ever documented. Or maybe some of the other survivors from the AvP Movies? Miss Yutani could even get a mention.
If I show a video of an actor doing his acting from like 10 years ago. Would I have to pay that actor? Just wondering. I assume you do..
QuoteRebellion keen on AvP motion control support at CVG.
(https://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fturbid.com%2Fimages%2Fgoofy%2Fdo_not_want-dog.jpg&hash=16b12b4c793e30042b93c580a122a96332d6de28)
Quote from: Puks on Jan 29, 2010, 12:43:08 AM
QuoteRebellion keen on AvP motion control support at CVG.
http://turbid.com/images/goofy/do_not_want-dog.jpg
It would obviously be an optional feature similar to what they are doing with the Resident Evil 5 Gold Edition.
I actually want motion control! I have a PS3 and I would like something minimal like as in LittleBigPlanet you just move your head. Would be nice to not have a large part of gameplay built around it, but as I said before, something small to utilize the Sixaxis controller. I'm against the "wand" and Natal.
RE5 uses a combination of Motion Wand and gamepad I think. Just like the Wii uses the remote and nunchuck. The Motion Wand could probably be used for more accurate aiming.
Quote from: ikarop on Jan 28, 2010, 03:57:13 PM
We only know about one which was revealed in our preview.
Hm... I guess you mean Lance's character ? Yeah, that's one, but how about the fact William Hope is voicing a character too ? Maybe that's the second cameo he's talking about.
Quote from: WeaN on Jan 29, 2010, 12:50:25 AM
Quote from: ikarop on Jan 28, 2010, 03:57:13 PM
We only know about one which was revealed in our preview.
Hm... I guess you mean Lance's character ? Yeah, that's one, but how about the fact William Hope is voicing a character too ? Maybe that's the second cameo he's talking about.
But if you count him as the one he was talking about then there could still be one more.
Quote from: predalien27 on Jan 29, 2010, 12:53:42 AM
Quote from: WeaN on Jan 29, 2010, 12:50:25 AM
Quote from: ikarop on Jan 28, 2010, 03:57:13 PM
We only know about one which was revealed in our preview.
Hm... I guess you mean Lance's character ? Yeah, that's one, but how about the fact William Hope is voicing a character too ? Maybe that's the second cameo he's talking about.
But if you count him as the one he was talking about then there could still be one more.
Actually in their preview the reveal the actor that played Gorman in Aliens will be lending his voice. So there is one more mystery cameo.
Well don't get your hopes up to high yet as it isn't for certain. Maybe William and Lance are the only ones in the game.
Quote from: ikarop on Jan 29, 2010, 01:02:59 AM
Well don't get your hopes up to high yet as it isn't for certain.
:(
I hope its John Hurt or Ian Holm.
ITS CONFIRMED the Hunter edition 4 extra maps are not disk based unlocked content!
http://kotaku.com/5459184/developer-calls-bs-on-disc+based-dlc-unlocks
it's DLC in the purest form (as in content that hasn't had enough time to be added to the disk but will be provided later to expand the game through DLC.)
Thats how it usually goes.
Quote from: affinity on Jan 29, 2010, 04:58:14 AM
ITS CONFIRMED the Hunter edition 4 extra maps are not disk based unlocked content!
http://kotaku.com/5459184/developer-calls-bs-on-disc+based-dlc-unlocks
it's DLC in the purest form (as in content that hasn't had enough time to be added to the disk but will be provided later to expand the game through DLC.)
Indeed, it's on the Spong interview I believe.
Also, new interview with Jason Kingsley at Bit-tech (http://www.bit-tech.net/gaming/pc/2010/01/29/aliens-vs-predator-and-the-uk-games-biz/1).
Ikarop: He who never sleeps.
(But hibernates if sufficient prey is not found.)
What do you make of this........ causing quite a stir......
I think he's way off track but we'll see?
http://www.destructoid.com/yeah-so-about-aliens-vs-predator--161831.phtml
Quote from: Nick ChesterI haven't played the game.
It's also hard to shake the fact that Aliens vs. Predator is being developed by the same folks who made Rogue Warrior
Stopped reading there. This guy is obviously a waste of time.
Just because he said that Rebellion made RW? Because he's correct?
He's right, and it's legitimate to consider the previous works of a developer when considering a new game by them.
Thinking that AvP won't be very good despite lots of evidence to the contrary, including opinions from people who've actually played it, is completely up to him. I'm not being sarcastic or anything; he's entitled to his opinion. It's completely understandable to balk a bit when he's using a track record to support his opinion rather than what we can observe ourselves, though.
Quote from: WeaN on Jan 29, 2010, 11:44:00 AM
Quote from: Nick ChesterI haven't played the game.
It's also hard to shake the fact that Aliens vs. Predator is being developed by the same folks who made Rogue Warrior
Stopped reading there. This guy is obviously a waste of time.
I agree with you.....
Although it's intersting reading..... the comments at the bottom either support him or slate him down.... one person even claims to have played a early build of the game an sais it's not better than avp2? (graphs ect wise?!)
I think this is going to be a 'marmite game' love it or hate it?
Quote from: Brother on Jan 29, 2010, 01:10:30 PM
Just because he said that Rebellion made RW? Because he's correct?
differant teams and RW was taken on by rebellion half-way through development..
That doesn't make him wrong and he also mentioned the well received AvP1. And he is fair by saying that it's only his opinion, he hasn't played the game and hes judging by what he has seen so far.
Still...saying that the graphics are the same or less than AvP2s indicates that something is wrong with whoever makes such a statement...
His opinion, and it's not the firs of that kind we have heard. There were plenty of other uninformed or ignorant previewers which weren't taken seriously.
Quote
"graphics are the same or less than the AVP2 ones"
I LOLed well with that :D
Quote from: LogansFolly on Jan 29, 2010, 11:39:25 AM
What do you make of this........ causing quite a stir......
I think he's way off track but we'll see?
http://www.destructoid.com/yeah-so-about-aliens-vs-predator--161831.phtml
Destructoid has a problem... Rogue Warrior wasn't made by the same team, they should do their research. I've seen them complaining in every article they post about AvP, mainly because Sega seems to ignore them a little bit. Besides all they saw was the alpha (a month before Eurogamer).
just make them look dumb in the comments of their article.
*Lost count* :P New previews at GiantBomb (http://www.giantbomb.com/news/aliens-vs-predator-multiplayer-hands-on/1851/) and Destructoid 1 (http://www.destructoid.com/preview-aliens-vs-predator-single-player-campaign--161865.phtml) & 2 (http://www.destructoid.com/preview-aliens-vs-predator-multiplayer-campaign--161867.phtml).
Poor Tim Jones must be getting tired of saying and explaining the same stuff over and over in these multiple interviews. lol.
Promoting such a game seems to be a full time job too.
Quote from: WeaN on Jan 30, 2010, 01:14:00 AM
Poor Tim Jones must be getting tired of saying and explaining the same stuff over and over in these multiple interviews. lol.
Promoting such a game seems to be a full time job too.
Haha, I was thinking the same thing!
Indeed, same with the rest of the devs that have been doing interviews lately.
Btw, one small correction. IGN & Destructoid mentioned in their latest previews that there are 7 multiplayer levels on disc. I double checked it today and there are actually 8 maps, 2 of which are for survivor.
Ok, so we can't use these 2 Survivor maps for regular modes.
How about the additionnal maps from the DLC ? I think one of those was Survivor only too.
So, including the DLC maps, that would mean 9 regular maps and 3 Survivor maps, right ?
It adds another 2 survivor maps.
starting with only 6 maps for regular MP, and then trying to milk us for a few extra is a joke.
I dont think I've ever seen a game with so few maps at release.
So if I get the extra maps, I'll have 12 maps in total; 8 Standard and 4 Survivor? Seems like a pretty decent amount. Hopefully we get some free map packs down the road, but somehow I doubt it.
They wont even give us the extra 4 maps with release without extra money, and we all know they could have had them on the disk.
I think its safe to say they aren't going to hand us anything.
Mrh. :-X
at kotaku they already said the 4 extra maps weren't ready to be finalized on the disk. so they will be DLC.
I don't believe for one second that Rebellion couldn't fit them on the disk.
There just trying to make some extra money fast.
Kinda overkill when you consider others games start with 12-16, but this will only give the average user 6 MP maps to play on.
I find it a rather bad idea to give players so few maps to start out.
Quote from: PsychoticMarik on Jan 30, 2010, 05:00:05 AM
I don't believe for one second that Rebellion couldn't fit them on the disk.
There just trying to make some extra money fast.
except for the fact that they couldn't...
The amount of maps is pretty reasonable considering other games. Besides you just can't take out the survivor maps like that as it's still part of the multiplayer experience. Probably the best one.
Gamespy (http://xbox360.gamespy.com/xbox-360/aliens-vs-predator-2009/1065319p1.html) just posted their multiplayer preview.
it's funny how gamespy loosely uses the word "massive" to describe the maps, when Rebellion said the maps were designed to be made for medium to close quarters encounters, it can't be massive if they want players to run into each other often. Then again this does support 18 players, so the maps can be really big, just filled with enough corners to prevent people from sniping people on the other side of the map.
A lot of the more recent previews I've read have had complaints about the graphics. Why? Everything about the visuals looks fantastic to me, the great looking character models & authentic recreation of the movies is stunning. One of the most highly detailed games I've seen in a long time, so it makes little sense to me why so many previews are finding fault with the graphics.
for me the graphic are only a little bit better then average. they would be top of the line if it was 2008. but i dont really care about graphics very much.
people standards become too high. graphics are more often underrated than they are overrated these days.
The graphics are incredible! Some of the best i have seen!
Standard + DLC = 8 _dm maps. Something smells...
Wow wow !! .. Source Bro' ?.
Haven't you been reading?
Beg your pardon. I've got a situation in RL so unfortunately I have had not enough time to.
Six of the standard and two of the DLC maps are for DM, TDM etc. That is eight.
Thanks. Cya.
Quote from: Brother on Jan 30, 2010, 09:27:07 AM
Standard + DLC = 8 _dm maps. Something smells...
Agreeing with you on that one.
But that's a start. Depending on what comes next (free DLC, we can only hope) it could be enough for starters. It will really depend on how good/unique are the default maps.
Uncharted 2 : Among Thieves had less maps than this when it came out and it didn't make it less enjoyable. Since then, Naughty Dog has been releasing free additionnal maps on a regular basis.
We can only hope Rebellion considers doing the same.
I have to admit, right now the small amount of maps isn't bothering me. I'll probably spend most of my time in the shifting Pyramid anyway.
QuoteA lot of the more recent previews I've read have had complaints about the graphics. Why?
Simple. Because the graphics really aren't anything special. No surprise since it's a multiplatform title, a new generation of consoles is needed if graphics are to be improved.
the graphics are special, and great. some people are just too spoiled by better graphics that they don't appreciate that these graphics are still gorgeous!
AVP has never looked this awesome.
Quote from: affinity on Jan 30, 2010, 03:07:12 PM
AVP has never looked this awesome.
Duh, it's been a decade.
Quote from: Brother on Jan 30, 2010, 03:27:08 PM
Quote from: affinity on Jan 30, 2010, 03:07:12 PM
AVP has never looked this awesome.
Duh, it's been a decade.
Seriously... DUH. Can't compary a game from 2000 to anything from 2006 and later.
it still counts. We waited all this time, for a new, better looking, and more fun AVP game and it's happening.
It doesn't need Crysis or whatevers the hottest looking game right now graphics to be considered great graphics or good enough graphics.
Casual gamers don't see graphics as art, they just want everything to look as good or better than everything else.
your comparisons of these graphics with major graphics games out there is blinding you from the fact that
AVP already takes the visuals in an AVP game to a whole new level.
and if you don't think so, then remain in your miserable dissatisfaction, ahahahaha. ;D
You know, I'm not really looking forward to see a AvP game in another decade. I think it looks pretty good right now, but it's also very graphic. Imagine how the game could look like in another 10 years. By then graphics could be photorealistic. Then these killmoves could be way too graphic for my tastes.
A bit early, but thought I'd start a reviews thread.
AvP has got 4 out of 5 from Empire magazine.
a good start.
Possible link please?
I wouldn't trust Empire too much, IIRC they aren't a gaming magazine and they gave the new Alone In The Dark 5 stars and we all know how that turned out.
Thanks a lot for the heads up! Can't wait to check those scans. We're going to transform the previews/interviews thread in the review/interview section so please try post anything related to that here.
Quotethe graphics are special, and great.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WofqmWpXJZ8
No. They're. Not.
About survivor mode...have they confirmed matchmaking?
Without matchmaking this mode will require people to get there friends together just to play it. Much like halo ODST did...which people stopped playing because they couldn't always get there friends on.
This mode will provide a lot of replay value, but not if people can only play it with there friends.
im wondering if that review is legitamite. its been up there for a while and the game probably wasnt gold back then. but if its real sweat.
Quote from: PsychoticMarik on Jan 30, 2010, 05:38:10 PM
About survivor mode...have they confirmed matchmaking?
Without matchmaking this mode will require people to get there friends together just to play it. Much like halo ODST did...which people stopped playing because they couldn't always get there friends on.
This mode will provide a lot of replay value, but not if people can only play it with there friends.
it doesn't need matchmaking to have any non-friend to join. in Rainbow Six Vegas on consoles, people
can use Custom searches for hosted rooms that are doing Terrorist Hunt (co-op), besides other MP modes.
Dedicated servers are probably needed for that to be possible.
but AVP would benefit from having that besides matchmaking.
I really don't like matchmaking that much anyways because the autosearches can take twice as long as just making/searching for a custom room and joining it based on your preferred rules/mode specifications.
Halo 3 matchmaking killed the MP for me, the only option was matchmaking, and it was stupid co-op was reserved for friends only. I HATE VOTING FOR THE MAP THAT WILL BE USED! It's kind of like Uncharted 2 where you are only given two maps to vote for, and if you play something like all competitive modes, the match types/rules are random too. It ends up resulting in repeating the same 2-3 maps, and not enough variety/control in the rule sets.
matchmaking really is sloppy multiplayer. I prefer custom searches, custom room lists, and stuff.
Custom games searches would be alright with me, but since they already confirmed matchmaking for regular MP they need to make sure survivor has it.
If we can only play survivor with friends and not with matched people then the game mode wont last.
Thats what my concern is.
Survivor would add a lot of replay value to the game for many people, but not if they fail to let us play with randoms. Getting together a group of 4 friends in halo's firefight is something that only happened once or twice within the first 2 weeks after the games release. After that...no one cared to play it anymore.
If this happens with survivor its a huge waste of potential.
Quote from: PsychoticMarik on Jan 31, 2010, 07:13:00 PM
Custom games searches would be alright with me, but since they already confirmed matchmaking for regular MP they need to make sure survivor has it.
If we can only play survivor with friends and not with matched people then the game mode wont last.
Thats what my concern is.
Survivor would add a lot of replay value to the game for many people, but not if they fail to let us play with randoms. Getting together a group of 4 friends in halo's firefight is something that only happened once or twice within the first 2 weeks after the games release. After that...no one cared to play it anymore.
If this happens with survivor its a huge waste of potential.
Halo 3 is the only game I know that screwed up not supporting matchmaking for co-op.
MW2 also didn't add it to their spec ops mode, but perhaps that was completely intentional.
I'm just concerned about because they have yet to say anything about it having matchmaking.
They only ever say "up to four friends"...which worries me.
I certainly hope that its not a problem tho.
The "survivor" trailer says "up to 4 players" ...
True, but whenever the devs talk about they only ever say friends.
I just find that a bit odd.
They definitely should on PC, since that has dedicated servers.
It's not going to make a difference for us console players if we can play with randoms or not. Since if you aren't hosting the game, nine times out of ten the person who is hosting is a no mic'er who quits after five minutes.
Anyone who has played Gears of War 2's horde mode knows that. You never get past wave fifthteen on that game unless you're playing with people you know. So with that in mind I'll probably only be playing it with mates anyway.
I played hours and hours of gears horde mode, but that's only because it had matchmaking.
I probably played it with my friends about 3 times.
I don't care if they talk, or if some people leave early. Fact is its fun with matchmaking, and its a waste without it. Like ODST's firefight...no one plays it.
Playing games with friends is always more fun, but survivor wont provide people any fun for more than a few weeks without a matchmaking system. Why even add a mode like this if it doesn't have matchmaking?
You would think it a no brainer, but developers do stupid things...
According to this Sega Nerds (http://seganerds.thekartel.com/blog/2010/01/30/preview:_aliens_vs._predator) preview the MP part of the game have
diminished graphics compared to the SP part... And this includes the
lighting system... Which affects alien gameplay...
While in SP alien gameplay is based on stealth, using the shadows
and such, in MP there are not real shadows and such... In MP the
alien gameplay is based on your insane speed... ::)
What.
Tell me it's all lies.
Even AvP'99 allowed Aliens to effectively hide in the shadows.
Quote from: AJL on Feb 01, 2010, 08:46:33 AM
According to this Sega Nerds (http://seganerds.thekartel.com/blog/2010/01/30/preview:_aliens_vs._predator) preview the MP part of the game have
diminished graphics compared to the SP part... And this includes the
lighting system... Which affects alien gameplay...
While in SP alien gameplay is based on stealth, using the shadows
and such, in MP there are not real shadows and such... In MP the
alien gameplay is based on your insane speed... ::)
That's how it usually works, and I can't think of one console FPS that has equal graphics fidelity in MP and SP... not even GRAW, KZ2, GeoW or UT3 and sure as hell not H3.
The lighting will still be sufficient in MP, just look at the MP videos, you can clearly tell there's areas you can't see into without a flashlight flare...
Perhaps.
Here's hoping the PC version doesn't necessarily suffer from the same drop in graphical quality for MP.
That's not really the issue, but a side product of it, MP has to juggle an assload more resources that dynamically change in a static set of confines, particularly on consoles with shared memory and bandwidth, or on PCs with limited resources, especially single procs with low end cards or (barf) IGPs. Things are going to be cut out, else you play MP with a much smaller player population per instance like 8 man MP.
Certainly, but the darkness is such a powerful component of the Alien gameplay that I'd hope they'd cut its quality last of all, and only out of dire necessity.
Personally, I would cut the number of players down before anything else, but that's usually the least popular choice (D3, ETQW, MW2PC = BAAAW from pundits/players).
The last FPS game I can remember running at equal fidelity no matter the mode was Doom ]I[ (PC). (DoW2 does too, but that really doesn't count as it's an action RTS)
From all the multiplayer videos we've seen, the graphics still look very close to the single player in my opinion.
That's true, but the main issue is how the less powerful lighting will affect the Alien gameplay.
In this case, the graphics actually count for game balance.
Quote from: MadassAlex on Feb 01, 2010, 09:43:18 AM
That's true, but the main issue is how the less powerful lighting will affect the Alien gameplay.
In this case, the graphics actually count for game balance.
More powerfull lighting, maps are bright and open... There maybe some few slightly
darker spots here and there but not enough to be of use really and players will learn
to insinctively spray few rounds to those spots to make sure there is no alien there.
Its apparently AvP2 all over again in this regard...
AvP2 aliens used to "fly" around screaming, this time they run around (screaming ?)
(I think they said somewhere that aliens scream/hiss or something while running...)
Well, luckily no-one ever looks up.
This sucks. What's wrong with games these days? A ten year old title (AvP1) can have great shadows both in SP and MP and a new one can't?
Please, let's not ignore how much resources a game requires nowadays.
We're not, but since a large part of the Alien gameplay and character hinges on using the darkness, it'd be wonderful if the shadows were deeper.
Combine this with the fact that we won't be able to destroy lights in multiplayer and it reduces the cinematic quality of Alien-related multiplayer matches considerably.
Quote from: Dusk on Feb 01, 2010, 10:14:08 AM
Please, let's not ignore how much resources a game requires nowadays.
Yeah... Consoles with their outdated hardware are limiting but they could
have distributed the resources they do have better anyway...
Quote from: MadassAlex on Feb 01, 2010, 10:18:25 AM
Combine this with the fact that we won't be able to destroy lights in multiplayer...
What ? Is this confirmed *Fact* ? ???
Quote from: AJL on Feb 01, 2010, 10:21:58 AM
Quote from: MadassAlex on Feb 01, 2010, 10:18:25 AM
Combine this with the fact that we won't be able to destroy lights in multiplayer...
What ? Is this confirmed *Fact* ? ???
Not that I know of.
Confirmed.
So... Its prettu much confirmed then, Aliens won't be sneaking around using
darkness in MP... Aliens will have to move behind things like in AvP2... At least
they can do that better this time with their "X-Ray" vision... (Unless that too
is SP only...) ::)
Do Marines have nightvsion? If they don't, that could explain why we can't destroy lightsources. It might makes the matches too unfair. Aliens can see in darkness, Predators have vision modes, and Marines only lousy flares.
Quote from: AJL on Feb 01, 2010, 10:28:30 AM
So... Its prettu much confirmed then, Aliens won't be sneaking around using
darkness in MP... Aliens will have to move behind things like in AvP2... At least
they can do that better this time with their "X-Ray" vision... (Unless that too
is SP only...) ::)
The good news is that seeing through walls is in multiplayer. In addition, its range has actually been extended since Eurogamer (where it was practically useless).
Quote from: Dusk on Feb 01, 2010, 10:28:36 AM
Do Marines have nightvsion? If they don't, that could explain why we can't destroy lightsources. It might makes the matches too unfair. Aliens can see in darkness, Predators have vision modes, and Marines only lousy flares.
No flares in MP, either. Flashlights are there, though. But Marines do of course have the motion tracker, which is very powerful in the right hands.
Or... Perhaps the MP maps are actually dark... But that guy who wrote the
review didn't know that Aliens vision mode automatically adjust the lightness
level and though that, what alien see is the real lightness level... ;D
all you need to do is look at the new MP trailers.... gfx look the same as SP to me, and the temple map is dark (you could only see where the flashlight was pointed)
If that's indeed the case, then I'm glad.
Can't remember. Part of a preview or interview, I think.
Quote from: AJL on Feb 01, 2010, 08:46:33 AM
Sega Nerds (http://seganerds.thekartel.com/blog/2010/01/30/preview:_aliens_vs._predator) preview
Quote from: Sega Nerds PreviewWith the Alien missions, my biggest complaint is the overuse of the same sayings the Marines use throughout the levels. Across three levels I played, I heard the Marines use and re-use about three lines of script.
RIght now I can only remember one; "Keep it together Marines." At one point I overheard four Marines in a row, in the same room, say that same bloody saying. Things like that can really ruin the atmosphere and it just seems very lazy - I don't expect Shakespearian style silioques from a game like this, but it's not hard to come up with a few vaguely original lines of script for the AI to use.
Damn ... I can already tell I'm really gonna hate this, especially after having played Halo games ...
They see me rollen', they h8ten'...
Aus gamer preview is the most glowing pre. yet i think i've read that and ign!!!
Bring on this bloooomin demo for god sake so all this pain will easy for a short time!!
;D
For some reason, Australia is going AvP crazy. There's a proportionally massive amount of pre-orders for it here. Apparently it's near the top of Game Trader's pre-orders list, impressive considering its competition.
The banned - not banned trick worked.
I don't think it's that as much as it's the nature of AvP as compared to the nature of Australia.
We Aussies live in a country where spiders the size of cars live in subways and the only thing bringing rain is the occasional rainsong from whichever Aboriginal shaman happens to be nearest. So we don't really feel like the Aliens or Predators are scary - they're like old friends that we like to run over with trains and discriminate against on the basis of a dark, racist, white supremacy past. AvP isn't so much AvP to us as it is 'Australia: The Game'.
It's almost national identity, it is.
Quote from: WeaN on Feb 01, 2010, 11:54:57 AM
Quote from: AJL on Feb 01, 2010, 08:46:33 AM
Sega Nerds (http://seganerds.thekartel.com/blog/2010/01/30/preview:_aliens_vs._predator) preview
Quote from: Sega Nerds PreviewWith the Alien missions, my biggest complaint is the overuse of the same sayings the Marines use throughout the levels. Across three levels I played, I heard the Marines use and re-use about three lines of script.
RIght now I can only remember one; "Keep it together Marines." At one point I overheard four Marines in a row, in the same room, say that same bloody saying. Things like that can really ruin the atmosphere and it just seems very lazy - I don't expect Shakespearian style silioques from a game like this, but it's not hard to come up with a few vaguely original lines of script for the AI to use.
Damn ... I can already tell I'm really gonna hate this, especially after having played Halo games ...
Welcome in 2010.
What I hated more is his remark on MP-levels: it's the same tight levels all over again...
Actually the destroy lights thing didn't work in AvPG against anyone with a brain... seeing as Marine night vision was bled out by light sources. If you broke all the lights you made his NV perfect and then you got skeetered in the crotch.
Marines have no night vision this time (thankfully. its scarier and more fun with just shoulder lamp, which AVP didn't have until AVP2.)
It's possible maybe one of the maps will feel as large as Stranded, but with a dense jungle. I know they dont want people sniping across the map but AVP needs more than quake sized maps for MP.
Quote from: MadassAlex on Feb 01, 2010, 02:37:05 PM
I don't think it's that as much as it's the nature of AvP as compared to the nature of Australia.
We Aussies live in a country where spiders the size of cars live in subways and the only thing bringing rain is the occasional rainsong from whichever Aboriginal shaman happens to be nearest. So we don't really feel like the Aliens or Predators are scary - they're like old friends that we like to run over with trains and discriminate against on the basis of a dark, racist, white supremacy past. AvP isn't so much AvP to us as it is 'Australia: The Game'.
It's almost national identity, it is.
Fantastic.
I've seen a magazine spread in the UK, (PC zone IIRC), which has chunks of text from the Classification Operations Board of Australia detailing the various ways in which characters can be dismembered, along with the strapline "I bet you can't wait to play it now." ;D ;D
Quote from: Drewid on Feb 01, 2010, 04:32:48 PM
Fantastic.
I've seen a magazine spread in the UK, (PC zone IIRC), which has chunks of text from the Classification Operations Board of Australia detailing the various ways in which characters can be dismembered, along with the strapline "I bet you can't wait to play it now." ;D ;D
LOL. The first report (http://www.ausgamers.com/images/features/pdf/SKMBT_C45109120408550.pdf) was amusing as well. I think all the buzz the game made in Australia was the best promotion. Thanks Classification Board.
Also, SEGA just posted the multiplayer modes list.
Quote
DEATH MATCH:
If you love a game with frantic, brutal chaos then Death Match in AVP multiplayer is for you. It's all about getting the most kills in the time limit set. Players can also win the match by hitting the target score before anyone else.
INFESTATION:
For total over-whelming mayhem, nothing comes close to the tension and potential for pant-wetting scenarios than INFESTATION. One player starts the match as an Alien Hunter and their task is to kill the Marine prey. When a Marine player is killed they will join the Alien Hunter team and help to kill off any remaining Marines.
MIXED SPECIES DEATH MATCH:
just like Death Match, but with mixed species. Two teams, made up from all three species fight to get the most kills in the set time limit or to reach the target score before the other team.
SURVIVOR:
For the ultimate test of stamina, play Survivor Mode. Survivor allows for up to four players to enter an arena to fight waves of progressively stronger aliens. Each arena will be set up with two main areas. One will be a platform which is relatively easy to defend; the other will be an area where ambush by aliens is more likely. Supplies of health and ammo will re-spawn in this second area.
PREDATOR HUNT:
If you're after a more stealthy multiplayer game go for Predator Hunt. In this mode one player is selected to become the Predator Hunter, the rest of the players take the role of the Marine prey. The Hunter must use the Predator's stealth abilities and advanced equipment to pick off the prey and score points. The Marines will need to defend themselves from this threat and if possible, to kill the Hunter.
SPECIES DEATH MATCH:
Species Death Match pits a Marine team, Alien team and Predator team against each other in a race to get the most kills within the set time limit or to reach the target score before any of the other teams.
DOMINATION:
Take capture the flag to a whole new level with Domination. In Domination two teams fight for ownership of Control Points around the level. Owning a Control Point gives the team a small and steady, stream of points. The more Control Points owned, the more that team scores. A team will win when their score has reached 100 points.
http://blogs.sega.com/europe/2010/02/01/aliens-vs-predator-multiplayer-modes-dissected/
Domination sounds intriguing.
No evac :/
The way it should be.
Quote from: Xhan on Feb 01, 2010, 06:18:42 PM
Domination sounds intriguing.
Agreed, I'm picturing Battlefields Conquest but with Aliens Predators and Marines. Should be fun.
Damn, I'm hoping that there isn't one slightly unbalanced species. That would make species DM horrible. :o
Next to the TDM and Mix TDM this mode will become useless after a while.
Quote from: Sykopathic on Feb 01, 2010, 08:12:08 PM
Quote from: Xhan on Feb 01, 2010, 06:18:42 PM
Domination sounds intriguing.
Agreed, I'm picturing Battlefields Conquest but with Aliens Predators and Marines. Should be fun.
Or UT's Domination mode, which it sounds exactly like, including in name....
Quote from: Xhan on Feb 01, 2010, 03:15:34 PM
Actually the destroy lights thing didn't work in AvPG against anyone with a brain... seeing as Marine night vision was bled out by light sources. If you broke all the lights you made his NV perfect and then you got skeetered in the crotch.
I found this out the hard way last night.
Quote from: xboxgamer4life on Jan 31, 2010, 05:56:38 PM
im wondering if that review is legitamite. its been up there for a while and the game probably wasnt gold back then. but if its real sweat.
sorry for reposting but does anyone know.
Quote from: xboxgamer4life on Feb 02, 2010, 06:08:47 AM
Quote from: xboxgamer4life on Jan 31, 2010, 05:56:38 PM
im wondering if that review is legitamite. its been up there for a while and the game probably wasnt gold back then. but if its real sweat.
sorry for reposting but does anyone know.
It's not uncommon to get journalists into a studio to play a pre-gold version for a day.
Indeed. They invited AvPGalaxy down to play a pre-gold version.
New preview at Bit-Tech (http://www.bit-tech.net/gaming/xbox-360/2010/02/02/aliens-vs-predator-hands-on-preview/1).
haha AVP never gotten so much marketing and attention back in 1999.
Ikarop.. something makes me to intenselly think in MP.. Hmm... I'm still trying to figure why.. Hmm... :P
Cool!! :D
Quote from: The_Silencer on Feb 02, 2010, 03:18:23 PM
Ikarop.. something makes me to intenselly think in MP.. Hmm... I'm still trying to figure why.. Hmm... :P
Cool!! :D
I think you are crazy buddy
(https://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg31.imageshack.us%2Fimg31%2F8941%2Fqueenqcopys.png&hash=82694b18af06174f17ad557a72d7b64ddcab21d7)
Looks like it has nothing to do with MP.
:D
I do read INP.. probably because of this new beer though.
Quote from: ikarop on Feb 02, 2010, 02:35:25 PM
New preview at Bit-Tech (http://www.bit-tech.net/gaming/xbox-360/2010/02/02/aliens-vs-predator-hands-on-preview/1).
Brilliant preview. Enjoy that thoroughly.
Quote from: affinity on Feb 02, 2010, 02:58:32 PM
haha AVP never gotten so much marketing and attention back in 1999.
The Internet wasn't exactly as popular, back then... :)
Quote from: Xenomorphine on Feb 03, 2010, 12:16:01 AM
Quote from: affinity on Feb 02, 2010, 02:58:32 PM
haha AVP never gotten so much marketing and attention back in 1999.
The Internet wasn't exactly as popular, back then... :)
This. In 99 I was all
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nv_F3nAPjsI
So true..
AVP is reason number 2 why February will kick January's ass: http://www.bravenewgamer.com/2010/02/5-reasons-why-february-will-kick-january%E2%80%99s-ass/
http://www.thekartel.com/kghapa/blog/2010/02/04/qa_with_aliens_vs_predators_head_of_art_and_design
Quote from: Some_Guy on Feb 04, 2010, 09:37:36 PM
AVP is reason number 2 why February will kick January's ass: http://www.bravenewgamer.com/2010/02/5-reasons-why-february-will-kick-january%E2%80%99s-ass/
Sweeeeet read
http://www.oxm.co.uk/article.php?id=17128
Verdict on demo, this line in particular is interesting:
QuoteOne of the biggest problems is that the demo feels unpolished. This can be excused somewhat by the disclaimer at the start of the demo that it's an old build but still, it's being put in the public eye to be judged and there's no denying it's lacking some spit and polish. We've played the full version, and it feels more solid, so it's a shame Rebellion couldn't rustle up some more recent code to entice players.
Game Informer Review and it's not good:
(https://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi729.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fww291%2FSuperMarioJedi%2F02-05-2010051359PM.gif&hash=8831ff2f6eb209f909775feca05d4d7c275c4265) (http://i729.photobucket.com/albums/ww291/SuperMarioJedi/02-05-2010051359PM.gif)
Mr. Ben Revees, please get laid.
Thanks for the scan Darkness!
Eh, I've played the demo, I know it's fun. It's no God of War or ME2, but it's fun.
The only thing I found disheartening in that review was the guy mentioning dumb AI, something I've been quite worried about for this game. Other than that, it just seems like he WANTED to hate this game. He moans about the motion tracker for god's sake. And the wall-walking?
I saw in the gameinformer magazine that the y only gave it 5.75 out of ten.
Quote from: Darkness on Feb 05, 2010, 11:06:29 PM
Game Informer Review and it's not good:
This is exactly what I've come to expect from Game Informer. By and large, their reviews don't really tell you anything about the game and you never get a sense that the journalists have really explored the gameplay options properly. I've noticed a trend in them giving high scores to third-person RPGs, especially MMOs, and bog-standard FPS titles. Games that tend to introduce new elements get low scores, or those elements get ignored.
They're sort of reflective of the gaming community as a whole. We don't like to be taken outside our comfort zone. And when we are, it often takes a lot of kicking and screaming before we admit to like what we've been given, like spoiled children who don't want to try chocolate mousse because all they want is goddamned ice-cream.
Thoroughly bad journalism.
My review of Ben Reeves reviewing the new AvP game
F*** game informer! This looks like a rushed review of someone who didn't know how to play the game.
He didn't like the marines, because the flashlight didnt do much and you had to kill a lot of aliens.... use your damn flares! And no way... killing hordes of aliens?! -.- THATS THE POINT!
He didn't like predator because it was too stealthy... what... I'm just going to let this speak for itself by repeating it... He didn't like predator because it was too stealthy...
He didn't like the Alien because it was a combination of the two and it had stealth (this guy should never review a splinter cell game, god damn), and i quote "and like the marine campaign, it sucks"... Lets look back on why marines suck. "because your flashlight isnt bright and you kill too many aliens".. WHAT?
So ergo, he doesn't like the aliens because their flashlight is too dim and you kill too many hordes of aliens... oh and the alien is stealthy.
He also said that the online was stale... name another game (besides avp1 or 2) that has this variety and depth in an online game?
Off to the side he made a note saying the game wasn't gloomy it was bland... Apparently he isn't playing the same game as we are. Under it it says the melee system is poor. Why? He doesnt say, proabably because he wanted to write a quick 1 page review before anyone else did and didn't even bother to learn how to play!
Lets now talk about all the things he didn't mention that make this game great. First of all the graphics, these are amazing looking (PC is all i can talk for, if u force 16xq AA and 16x ani filtering, it looks SO GOOD) and not once does he comment on it. Or how much easier it is to wall walk in these games compared to the last. He doesn't mention any new alien skills (ie seeing thru walls, super fast, etc), new predator skills (focus jump, trophy kills, different disc and spear, etc), and how atmospheric and horrifying it is to even play a marine in DM on the f***ing demo! This guy is awful at his job. Im not just mad because he gave my GOTY a low score. But he didnt say why, and he didn't even review the game... at all!
ok i'm done...
tl;dr... just read it!
Quote from: MadassAlex on Feb 05, 2010, 11:43:09 PM
Quote from: Darkness on Feb 05, 2010, 11:06:29 PM
Game Informer Review and it's not good:
This is exactly what I've come to expect from Game Informer. By and large, their reviews don't really tell you anything about the game and you never get a sense that the journalists have really explored the gameplay options properly. I've noticed a trend in them giving high scores to third-person RPGs, especially MMOs, and bog-standard FPS titles. Games that tend to introduce new elements get low scores, or those elements get ignored.
They're sort of reflective of the gaming community as a whole. We don't like to be taken outside our comfort zone. And when we are, it often takes a lot of kicking and screaming before we admit to like what we've been given, like spoiled children who don't want to try chocolate mousse because all they want is goddamned ice-cream.
Thoroughly bad journalism.
/\ This. There is no way this game deserves a 5.75 based on the positive responces to the demo and many journalist hands on previews. Guy gave this game that score before he played the game, I left him a nice comment on his gameinformer profile.
Perhaps you should too when the other reviews end up positive...
Kinda like what happened when that lady from OXM gave Dead Space a 6.5, everyone went nuts on her.
Quote from: InfestedGoat on Feb 06, 2010, 12:03:46 AM
He didn't like predator because it was too stealthy... what... I'm just going to let this speak for itself by repeating it... He didn't like predator because it was too stealthy...
Lawl,it still amazes me how this is ANYONE's problem who complains about the Predator.
He complains about shit that's from the universe this game is based in, making his review futile.
"Live off the fumes of two dormant franchises." haha
Did he even play multiplayer? Where's any mention of any of the modes. Survivor mode is a game unto itself but it's nowhere to be seen in his review.
Quote from: XenoVC on Feb 06, 2010, 12:08:32 AM
"Live off the fumes of two dormant franchises." haha
Apparently someone hasnt heard of the third predator installment or ya know Ridley F***ING Scott's new alien movie. Or you know, Aliens: CM.... Oh and Neca is releasing a new line of Predator toys, and SideShow is going to release their aliens maquette in a few weeks...
Ya totally f***ing dormant.
Quote from: InfestedGoat on Feb 06, 2010, 12:14:59 AM
Quote from: XenoVC on Feb 06, 2010, 12:08:32 AM
"Live off the fumes of two dormant franchises." haha
Apparently someone hasnt heard of the third predator installment or ya know Ridley F***ING Scott's new alien movie. Or you know, Aliens: CM.... Oh and Neca is releasing a new line of Predator toys, and SideShow is going to release their aliens maquette in a few weeks...
Ya totally f***ing dormant.
Adding to that,the new AvP,Alien, and Predator comics. ;D
Quote from: XenoVC on Feb 06, 2010, 12:16:25 AM
Adding to that,the new AvP,Alien, and Predator comics. ;D
Ugh... you had to remind me about the pinchers >:(... but i guess that for another thread
for me i think the thing that made this review easy to ignore was when he said that the marine's motion detector makes the game less scary. hahahaha.
Quote from: Rated-rsuperstar on Feb 06, 2010, 12:12:14 AM
Did he even play multiplayer? Where's any mention of any of the modes. Survivor mode is a game unto itself but it's nowhere to be seen in his review.
NOOB REVIEWER. Seriously. I posted this in the other topic.
Pretty noob review if you ask me. It seems he was the type of kid growing up hating avp and praising batman. I would expect more from a high class journalism outlet like GI. They probably gave the madden sports guy this game to review. I mean if the game is 5.75 bad (it can't be) then it is what it is. Howeve,r even a bad game needs a professional review. Give it some curtesy!!!
Empire Magazine give it a good review, and I would careless if game informer did not like it or not.
I'm really disheartened that the game is getting a bad reputation already. It's such a great game and it has ignited my desires for playing FPS games again. I'm really tired of these rehashed war FPS games. It's been so long since I've played a good, unique, fps game. (TF2 and L4D 1/2 are both unique also, but they're no where near as fun as avp to me)
I haven't been able to take an FPS game seriously since Quake 2/3.
The game only got two reviews so far IIRC. The game is not out until another week or two. I love the predator was too stealthy part since Preds always been based on stealth. He must know nothing about the series.
Quote from: Hellspawn28 on Feb 06, 2010, 03:27:09 AM
The game only got two reviews so far IIRC. The game is not out until another week or two. I love the predator was too stealthy part since Preds always been based on stealth. He must know nothing about the series.
Who else reviewed the game? I though Game Informer was, unfortunately, the first.
Quote from: Hellspawn28 on Feb 06, 2010, 03:27:09 AM
The game only got two reviews so far IIRC. The game is not out until another week or two. I love the predator was too stealthy part since Preds always been based on stealth. He must know nothing about the series.
This is made even more pathetic by how he uses the example of the original movies as masterpieces when it seems like he's either never seen them (and therefore can't use them as a basis for comparison) or didn't understand a thing about them.
Quote from: MadassAlex on Feb 06, 2010, 03:30:08 AM
Quote from: Hellspawn28 on Feb 06, 2010, 03:27:09 AM
The game only got two reviews so far IIRC. The game is not out until another week or two. I love the predator was too stealthy part since Preds always been based on stealth. He must know nothing about the series.
This is made even more pathetic by how he uses the example of the original movies as masterpieces when it seems like he's either never seen them (and therefore can't use them as a basis for comparison) or didn't understand a thing about them.
THANK YOU!!! It seems they gave the sports guy this review. Here is the points I have found in the poor review
Predator is stealthy(obviosuly never watched predator 1 = fail)
linear design (hey tardfrick not everything is going to be open world. I seems to remember you praising cod's linear design)
Alien climbing on walls (wtf is this bs)
motion sickness(well..its common that its not usually seen in gaming)
flashlight not being usefull enough (ZOMG, really! So you want the game to kiss your @#% every second)
Motion tracker is annoying (Who the @#$% did they give this review to? Solja boy? Probably didn't realise there is flares)
Multiplayer doesn't feel fresh (okay, well its obviously he didn't botherp laying past deathmatch. In what other game can you play as a pred or alien
My conclusion on this review and/or reviewer is they hated that avp tryed something new. IT didn't follow the standard spf shooter medium. Because of this we have a biased reviewers with a 8 pound waterhead. And half a stick of bs up his @#@$%. I would expect more froma professional reviewer. Opinions are opinions. However, even with eveyrones opinion they have to be well thought out...especially for a journalist. Nothing was well thought out here..not even the wording.
I will buy this still and I hope its as good as the actual avp community is making it out to be. If the avp community enjoys it then I should as well.
Quote from: Hellspawn28 on Feb 06, 2010, 03:27:09 AM
The game only got two reviews so far IIRC. The game is not out until another week or two. I love the predator was too stealthy part since Preds always been based on stealth. He must know nothing about the series.
It's not just reviews alone. Many people on forums are criticizing the game, although I do believe mots of them are criticizing it because they get beat up. Everyone wants to play some rehashed war game now a days, sigh.
Actually as far as motion sickness goes, AVP doesn't give it to me at all. Half-life 2 however, destroys me. I get nausea in about 15-20 minutes in that game. If I keep playing I will throw up.
I'm pretty sure IGN or Gamestop will like it. If IGN likes crap like Monster House for the GBA, then they should like AVP. I like Gametrailers reviews better since they do a better job when it comes to reviews.
Quote from: Hellspawn28 on Feb 06, 2010, 03:35:17 AM
I like Gametrailers reviews better since they do a better job when it comes to reviews.
Totally agree on that! They do a great job. Even though they have never done written reviews. I don't think they have too. Their well produced well thought out video reviews make up for it.
To the gi reviewer:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0MRmxfLuNto
I also submitted a letter to the editor in cheif of GameInformer telling him what I thought of Ben Reeves review.
For all the good it'll do. Welcome to what a non-fan is going to say about the game.
Quote from: ikarop on Feb 05, 2010, 11:14:22 PM
Mr. Ben Revees, please get laid.
Thanks for the scan Darkness!
LOL, well said sir!
Quote from: Xhan on Feb 06, 2010, 04:47:41 AM
For all the good it'll do. Welcome to what a non-fan is going to say about the game.
Even as a non fan. The ydidn't look at it on a projective scale. They just said..yea climbing on walls @#$% that crap. The whole vibe the review gave was "screw this, it trys something new and I don't like it..im gonna go play cod".
It's the court of opinion. It doesn't have to be fair, rational or balanced. It just has to excite reading and engender purchases.
So a reviewer doesn't like a game and suddenly he is a horrible person who needs to get laid?
I'm having flashbacks to early reviews of AVPR.
Quote from: That Yellow Alien on Feb 06, 2010, 07:14:07 AM
So a reviewer doesn't like a game and suddenly he is a horrible person who needs to get laid?
I'm having flashbacks to early reviews of AVPR.
I think the anger is directed at the generally unprofessional way the review was written, as well as some pretty stupid points (Predator campaign too stealthy, motion tracker being annoying etc.)
Quote from: That Yellow Alien on Feb 06, 2010, 07:14:07 AM
So a reviewer doesn't like a game and suddenly he is a horrible person who needs to get laid?
I'm having flashbacks to early reviews of AVPR.
Nope, everyone is entitled to their own opinion and that's my opinion about his work. He doesn't have a solid argument, the review is plain & simple, also completly unprofesional. Besides the guy sounds uptight and angry.
I doubt the game is this bad. They even gave Avatar a better score. The review feels kind of rushed. Pretty much everything he complains about is nonsense. Judging from the demo the Alien movement, flashlight and Predator does not suck at all. I don't expect this game to get scores like 9 or so, but this review is just ridiculous.
Anyhow, thanks for the scanned review!!
Well, duh, of course wall-walking is disorienting. You're defying f**king gravity. Get used to it. What a dipshit.
Yeah, that is the stupidest review i'v ever seen, it's like a first impreesion on the game, when your use to it, it's damn good but this guy is still complaining about noob things.
Whether it matters or not, I'm sending a message straight to Reeves himself.
lmao too stealthy and motion tracker annoying? wtf? I can't even understand the point of this.
Quote from: ikarop on Feb 06, 2010, 07:50:52 AM
Quote from: That Yellow Alien on Feb 06, 2010, 07:14:07 AM
So a reviewer doesn't like a game and suddenly he is a horrible person who needs to get laid?
I'm having flashbacks to early reviews of AVPR.
Nope, everyone is entitled to their own opinion and that's my opinion about his work. He doesn't have a solid argument, the review is plain & simple, also completly unprofesional. Besides the guy sounds uptight and angry.
Unfortunately, that is the majority of GI writing staff nowadays and then again, there reviews have ALWAYS been just about useless as they are usually maybe a few paragraphs.
However, I usually only read GI nowadays for the 10+ page previews on big/new games, other than that, I don't read it anymore and I actually haven't had a new subscription for a few months now.
It just sucks to see my favorite magazine go down the tubes like this, I have huge collection of their old issues dating back to 2001/2002(heheh, I still have that issue where they did that 10+ page spread on Vice City) in which their journalism was pretty good.
This is why I only read the Power Unlimited (Dutch magazine). If they shit on a game, they do so justly, and with immense hilarity.
Quote from: Dajanksta on Feb 06, 2010, 04:51:11 PM
motion tracker annoying? wtf?
Actually, that i agree with. The MT is annoying.
Everything else i'll rate when i get the fullgame.
Something is wrong with gi's review of the game. It seems like he wants to hate the game.
Quote from: Xhan on Feb 06, 2010, 04:47:41 AM
For all the good it'll do. Welcome to what a non-fan is going to say about the game.
I don't think so. All my friends(non-fans) that have played the demo with me say it's awesome and now there gonna buy the game.
Quote from: ikarop on Feb 06, 2010, 07:50:52 AM
Quote from: That Yellow Alien on Feb 06, 2010, 07:14:07 AM
So a reviewer doesn't like a game and suddenly he is a horrible person who needs to get laid?
I'm having flashbacks to early reviews of AVPR.
Nope, everyone is entitled to their own opinion and that's my opinion about his work. He doesn't have a solid argument, the review is plain & simple, also completly unprofesional. Besides the guy sounds uptight and angry.
Exactly. Everyone is entitled to their own opinion. However as a video game jorunalist it has to come int othe reign of a professional written review. Not some anger filled review with not even reasons to its hate..its just hate. Seriously complaining because aliens can climb on walls and how its a challenge. Then to go and say the predator is too stealthy. Come on, this just goes int toeh reigns of..bs and stupid.
Quote from: Some_Guy on Feb 05, 2010, 03:33:29 PM
http://www.oxm.co.uk/article.php?id=17128
Verdict on demo, this line in particular is interesting: QuoteOne of the biggest problems is that the demo feels unpolished. This can be excused somewhat by the disclaimer at the start of the demo that it's an old build but still, it's being put in the public eye to be judged and there's no denying it's lacking some spit and polish. We've played the full version, and it feels more solid, so it's a shame Rebellion couldn't rustle up some more recent code to entice players.
Thats the only thing im really interessested in. I hoped that, cause the bad controls of the PC-Version and the consolelike weaponswitching and the matchmaking were indicators for an early/consolebuild. The overall clunky- and choppyness is maybe gone.
I wouldnt buy the game if its like the demo, but if i get a chance to test a new demo or the full version i will think about it again. : )
...OK, one moment. In that case i really wouldnt wonder, if thats simply a lie. We will see...
I am really enjoying the demo(the times i get to play lol) and if the full game is better than the demo, I can't wait for it.
Looks like a whole bunch of people are posting complaints about the review on his Gameinformer profile.
Quote from: RidgeTop on Feb 06, 2010, 10:53:53 PM
Looks like a whole bunch of people are posting complaints about the review on his Gameinformer profile.
You got a link to that? I fancy a laugh.
Quote from: stemot on Feb 06, 2010, 10:56:27 PM
Quote from: RidgeTop on Feb 06, 2010, 10:53:53 PM
Looks like a whole bunch of people are posting complaints about the review on his Gameinformer profile.
You got a link to that? I fancy a laugh.
Seconded. Maybe I'll add a complaint myself.
Quote from: stemot on Feb 06, 2010, 10:56:27 PM
Quote from: RidgeTop on Feb 06, 2010, 10:53:53 PM
Looks like a whole bunch of people are posting complaints about the review on his Gameinformer profile.
You got a link to that? I fancy a laugh.
http://gameinformer.com/members/GIBen/default.aspx?CommentPosted=True#CommentPosted
enjoy.
Thanks mate :)
Quote from: XxecutionerxX on Feb 06, 2010, 09:27:08 PM
Quote from: Xhan on Feb 06, 2010, 04:47:41 AM
For all the good it'll do. Welcome to what a non-fan is going to say about the game.
I don't think so. All my friends(non-fans) that have played the demo with me say it's awesome and now there gonna buy the game.
That is very true all of my friends who tried it ( not even knowing what avp was ) really enjoyed it. I think all the fans are criticizing so much because its new and exactly like the original.
Quote from: EatWheat on Feb 06, 2010, 11:21:53 PM
Quote from: XxecutionerxX on Feb 06, 2010, 09:27:08 PM
Quote from: Xhan on Feb 06, 2010, 04:47:41 AM
For all the good it'll do. Welcome to what a non-fan is going to say about the game.
I don't think so. All my friends(non-fans) that have played the demo with me say it's awesome and now there gonna buy the game.
That is very true all of my friends who tried it ( not even knowing what avp was ) really enjoyed it. I think all the fans are criticizing so much because its new and exactly like the original.
How is it exactly like the original? I think it feels new and fresh.
Quote from: RidgeTop on Feb 06, 2010, 11:19:21 PM
Quote from: stemot on Feb 06, 2010, 10:56:27 PM
Quote from: RidgeTop on Feb 06, 2010, 10:53:53 PM
Looks like a whole bunch of people are posting complaints about the review on his Gameinformer profile.
You got a link to that? I fancy a laugh.
http://gameinformer.com/members/GIBen/default.aspx?CommentPosted=True#CommentPosted
enjoy.
:D
What a wonderful read.
Quote from: RidgeTop on Feb 06, 2010, 11:23:14 PM
Quote from: EatWheat on Feb 06, 2010, 11:21:53 PM
Quote from: XxecutionerxX on Feb 06, 2010, 09:27:08 PM
Quote from: Xhan on Feb 06, 2010, 04:47:41 AM
For all the good it'll do. Welcome to what a non-fan is going to say about the game.
I don't think so. All my friends(non-fans) that have played the demo with me say it's awesome and now there gonna buy the game.
That is very true all of my friends who tried it ( not even knowing what avp was ) really enjoyed it. I think all the fans are criticizing so much because its new and exactly like the original.
How is it exactly like the original? I think it feels new and fresh.
Sorry I meant to say not exactly like the original
One of my friend downloaded the demo and thought it was crap gameplay-wise. But he didn't give they game even a chance. Played only 1h or so.
Quote from: Swizzly64 on Feb 07, 2010, 12:05:18 AM
One of my friend downloaded the demo and thought it was crap gameplay-wise. But he didn't give they game even a chance. Played only 1h or so.
His loss.
The demo is not the final product. I read an article from IGN or one of those gaming sites and they even said they're hands on gameplay was much better than the demo in terms of quality.
In deep hands on SP preview at Xbox360Achivments.com (http://www.xbox360achievements.org/news/news-4322-Aliens-vs-Predator-Single-Player-In-Depth-Hands-On-Preview---Just-The-3-Of-Us.html)
Damn that preview sounds awesome, I cannot wait for the final game.
Quote from: RoyaleDuke on Feb 07, 2010, 06:22:58 AM
Damn that preview sounds awesome, I cannot wait for the final game.
Drooling over Marine SP.
Very nice, professional review. Can't wait for the campaign! I'm not surprised by the lack of mission variety, but it's not a huge drawback for me. You want variety? Try different play-styles in every mission. Problem solved.
Quote from: PRI. HUDSON on Feb 07, 2010, 08:22:30 AM
Quote from: RoyaleDuke on Feb 07, 2010, 06:22:58 AM
Damn that preview sounds awesome, I cannot wait for the final game.
Drooling over Marine SP.
me and you both.
Game Informer have given this game 5.75/10.
http://gamegrep.com/news/29601-first_aliens_vs_predator_review_surfaces_from_game_informer_ouch_575/
Doesn't look good. I'll try the demo again today, when I d/l it on Thursday it wouldn't even work.
Quote from: jordan on Feb 07, 2010, 11:49:58 AM
Game Informer have given this game 5.75/10.
http://gamegrep.com/news/29601-first_aliens_vs_predator_review_surfaces_from_game_informer_ouch_575/
Doesn't look good. I'll try the demo again today, when I d/l it on Thursday it wouldn't even work.
Old news man, look about 4 pages back. There is already a bunch of people flaming the reviewer on his GameInformer profile.
Darkness posted that one, turns out the previewer was a Hello Kitty fan?
Thats really not enough. Its probably no 90%-game, but 80% should be possible and if its under 70% its hard to take it serious. At least, with the argumentation from the gameinformer.
And i say that, as someone who is quite a bit disappointed.
Edit: Hm, i cant take some gamesites serious anyway, i only read complains (but many, specially on the PC-Version) about some of the mechanics in the commentaries.
People who are ok with the sneakattack shouldnt be that much anymore.
webley13, stop copying and pasting your little review on all the threads please.
Game Informer has apparently reviewed the new AVP game and given it a 5.75! the reviewer hated it.
God damn you Rebellion!
That review was terribly written. Not a shred of evidence to back up his claims.
Spoiler
(https://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.tvgasm.com%2Fshows%2FRHOC%2Fmiddle_finger.jpg&hash=730be063191f4534a91b2537fc0cf081e108fd65)
Well if people need a picture to see that this thread ain't lying.
http://www.playfire.com/a/forum/general-discussion/thread/67414
Good Christ! :-[
The review does seem like it was written by a 12 yr old. But I hope the that the game isn't as bad as this chump claims. :'(
I'll still give it a go in rental form before I go and buy this game, since I'm still not completely sold on it myself.
I am curious to know how IGN will review this. Seeing that I follow IGN's reviews more consistently.
IGN can just go to hell. They gave Assassin's Creed like a 7 or something, and the game was muich better than the score made me believe. The only time I agree with low scores is if MOST of the reviews of the game are low.
Quote"This reviewer guy knows nothing about the movies or previous games.
He complained about their being too many aliens to fight as a marine.
He also complained that Aliens are "Disorienting" to play as as.
And that Preds only rely on "Stealth" in the campaign.
And he bashed MP mode."
Honestly that guy is a halo-kid or a modern warfare 2 kid, knows nothing about the AvP series
Alien controls hard to manage? WTF? look at the AvP 2 it's the same, despite lack of pounce
too many aliens comming at ya in the campaign? lol dude nice fail-reason, you are supposed to be overruned by Aliens... that is the campaign purpose?
3 diffrent species in multiplayer and nothing new? well again that guy fails at delivering a good reason, because there is alot of gamemodes not seen in other new games...
my advice for this "reviewer" don't even play games that require skill
gamers.at on the other hand gave it 81%....
Game Informer is just whining that Sega didn't pay them to bump up the score. What a disgrace of a magazine. That is far too low a score for even a game they do not like, yet should admit it will be the best game ever for many people wanting something AVP or something new from the modern shooters. It shouldn't have gotten less than 7.0 from the worst critics out there who get paid to review.
Even some of the worst rpgs ever never scored so low. GameInformer must have some really bitchy CoD and Halo fanboys. Last month they gave like a multi-page preview of Halo Reach, but only one page preview for AVP, what the ****.
Quote from: spychi on Feb 07, 2010, 07:03:17 PM
Quote"This reviewer guy knows nothing about the movies or previous games.
He complained about their being too many aliens to fight as a marine.
He also complained that Aliens are "Disorienting" to play as as.
And that Preds only rely on "Stealth" in the campaign.
And he bashed MP mode."
Honestly that guy is a halo-kid or a modern warfare 2 kid, knows nothing about the AvP series
Alien controls hard to manage? WTF? look at the AvP 2 it's the same, despite lack of pounce
too many aliens comming at ya in the campaign? lol dude nice fail-reason, you are supposed to be overruned by Aliens... that is the campaign purpose?
3 diffrent species in multiplayer and nothing new? well again that guy fails at delivering a good reason, because there is alot of gamemodes not seen in other new games...
my advice for this "reviewer" don't even play games that require skill
gamers.at on the other hand gave it 81%....
I completely agree. What a disgrace.
Part of the problem is, that these reviewers think every game that follows has to have the production standard of MW2, well that's not the case. What GI has to understand is that not every game company is loaded with $$$ like Infinity Ward and can do what ever they want regarding the game.
Quote from: spychi on Feb 07, 2010, 07:03:17 PM
Quote"This reviewer guy knows nothing about the movies or previous games.
He complained about their being too many aliens to fight as a marine.
He also complained that Aliens are "Disorienting" to play as as.
And that Preds only rely on "Stealth" in the campaign.
And he bashed MP mode."
Honestly that guy is a halo-kid or a modern warfare 2 kid, knows nothing about the AvP series
Alien controls hard to manage? WTF? look at the AvP 2 it's the same, despite lack of pounce
too many aliens comming at ya in the campaign? lol dude nice fail-reason, you are supposed to be overruned by Aliens... that is the campaign purpose?
3 diffrent species in multiplayer and nothing new? well again that guy fails at delivering a good reason, because there is alot of gamemodes not seen in other new games...
my advice for this "reviewer" don't even play games that require skill
gamers.at on the other hand gave it 81%....
This Halo and MW2 bashing has got to stop. They're both pretty amazing games. Not the best out there, but the blockbusters of this industry that actually turned out good.
I played the old AVP series religiously. Also played Halo from the start. Just because something is popular, doesn't mean you bashing it makes you some kind of hardcore rebel with enlightenment on what a "good" game is.
It's all about opinion.
Quote from: Giger_Incubator on Feb 07, 2010, 07:19:58 PM
Quote from: spychi on Feb 07, 2010, 07:03:17 PM
Quote"This reviewer guy knows nothing about the movies or previous games.
He complained about their being too many aliens to fight as a marine.
He also complained that Aliens are "Disorienting" to play as as.
And that Preds only rely on "Stealth" in the campaign.
And he bashed MP mode."
Honestly that guy is a halo-kid or a modern warfare 2 kid, knows nothing about the AvP series
Alien controls hard to manage? WTF? look at the AvP 2 it's the same, despite lack of pounce
too many aliens comming at ya in the campaign? lol dude nice fail-reason, you are supposed to be overruned by Aliens... that is the campaign purpose?
3 diffrent species in multiplayer and nothing new? well again that guy fails at delivering a good reason, because there is alot of gamemodes not seen in other new games...
my advice for this "reviewer" don't even play games that require skill
gamers.at on the other hand gave it 81%....
This Halo and MW2 bashing has got to stop. They're both pretty amazing games. Not the best out there, but the blockbusters of this industry that actually turned out good.
I played the old AVP series religiously. Also played Halo from the start. Just because something is popular, doesn't mean you bashing it makes you some kind of hardcore rebel with enlightenment on what a "good" game is.
sorry if you felt offended, should stated a note for those who like both games and actually have a good skill
still he doesn't know anything about games
Quote
still he doesn't know anything about games
This, I can agree with.
GI is an insignficant source to form an opinion anyways. Only the minority depend on mag/site reviews to buy a game. AVP can very well be successful, make sales and have its own great online community.
Look at Dead Space. GI scored it pretty low, but that didn't stop the game from making so much money that it convinced EA to make a sequel.
Quote from: affinity on Feb 07, 2010, 08:11:33 PM
Look at Dead Space. GI scored it pretty low, but that didn't stop the game from making so much money that it convinced EA to make a sequel.
Great example, Great game. :)
Quote from: affinity on Feb 07, 2010, 08:11:33 PM
GI is an insignficant source to form an opinion anyways. Only the minority depend on mag/site reviews to buy a game. AVP can very well be successful, make sales and have its own great online community.
Look at Dead Space. GI scored it pretty low, but that didn't stop the game from making so much money that it convinced EA to make a sequel.
OXM scored Dead Space 6.5, the only review for Dead Space nearly that low. The reviewer was bashed endlessly on OXM's site.
It's because many gamers are finally realizing they can form their own opinions.
Ugh badly written review. Predators using stealth, aliens walking on walls? Good thing he didn't review Halo. Soldiers using guns! That's insane!
From the lack of clear info given in this review it sounds like this guy was dumped by his girlfriend and took out all his anger on this game.
Whether he is right or not it's a badly written review.
It's also smaller than GI has done in the past... hmm.
I cant believe this at all. The review is a travesty.
Did this guy even play the game or what?! I mean he suggests its a bad thing that there are 'too many' xenomorph encounters in the marine campaign which made me lol so much (the more aliens the better). He says the predator relies to much on stealth (which is the point of the predator) and the alien climbs the walls (also the point of being an alien) which to him was confusing. It gets better he goes on to say the combat is bad (clearly this guy is just s**t at playing this game) and that the marines motion sensor is pointless and ruins tension. The most tense moment of 'Aliens' was the hive scene with the motion tracker going off like crazy, i mean wtf is this jerk on about. He barely even touches on the multiplayer aspects of the game at all. I hope no one pays attention to this review, the general gaming public will see it and assume this game is a failure especially given Shellshock 2 and Rogue Warriors poor reviews which are nothing like this game based on what I have played in the demo. AVP for the win!
The people commenting underneath the review certainly took it seriously. :(
Quote from: TJ Doc on Feb 07, 2010, 10:50:25 PM
The people commenting underneath the review certainly took it seriously. :(
They sir are clearly morons for believing it. Besides if they dont get the game its their loss and you wouldnt want to be playing online with people who are gullible enough to believe a review as stupid as that anyway.
Quote from: Giger_Incubator on Feb 07, 2010, 07:19:58 PM
This Halo and MW2 bashing has got to stop. They're both pretty amazing games. Not the best out there, but the blockbusters of this industry that actually turned out good.
Uh, well mw2 and halo does have a pretty ignorant fanbase. Sniper Eliete (another rebellio game) is constantly being flamed on youtube by cod fanboys comming in and saying cod is better. I agree that the games ae blockbusters. However"imho" both of them are overrated. I don't like the cod games never will. I get bored too much with them. My friends act like they are god made..however, no. My one friend who plays cod all the time He complained about battlefields online by saying they don't let you pick your weapon. It is too big and the auto injector is stupid and you die because you forget to pull it out.
I pick up bfbc and currently enjoying the heck out of it. The point of them game is too understand each class and use them to the situation your in. When I play I think back to what he says. I think "wow, sorry it doesn't kiss your a@#$% liek cod does and you actually have to think strategically". Perfect example of something going out of someonesb utter zone (cod) and trying something new...it blows. It is just opinions..but come on..it gets too much at times.
Quote from: To The Death on Feb 07, 2010, 10:54:15 PM
Quote from: TJ Doc on Feb 07, 2010, 10:50:25 PM
The people commenting underneath the review certainly took it seriously. :(
They sir are clearly morons for believing it. Besides if they dont get the game its their loss and you wouldnt want to be playing online with people who are gullible enough to believe a review as stupid as that anyway.
And
that is the silver lining! ;D
TheGuardian.co.uk hands on preview here (http://www.guardian.co.uk/technology/gamesblog/2010/feb/04/games-sony).
Quote from: TJ Doc on Feb 07, 2010, 10:56:05 PM
Quote from: To The Death on Feb 07, 2010, 10:54:15 PM
Quote from: TJ Doc on Feb 07, 2010, 10:50:25 PM
The people commenting underneath the review certainly took it seriously. :(
They sir are clearly morons for believing it. Besides if they dont get the game its their loss and you wouldnt want to be playing online with people who are gullible enough to believe a review as stupid as that anyway.
And that is the silver lining! ;D
The review is not up on GameInformer's page yet, if you are talking the profile of the reviewer, the majority of comments are bashing the review and the reviewer.
Quote from: ikarop on Feb 07, 2010, 11:14:14 PM
TheGuardian.co.uk hands on preview here (http://www.guardian.co.uk/technology/gamesblog/2010/feb/04/games-sony).
Nice review, great read. This chap knows what he's talking about -- comments on the authentic sounds, some quick bashing of the movies... :D
Quote from: ikarop on Feb 07, 2010, 11:14:14 PM
TheGuardian.co.uk hands on preview here (http://www.guardian.co.uk/technology/gamesblog/2010/feb/04/games-sony).
The
Guardian is getting into this? Wow...
Quote from: RidgeTop on Feb 07, 2010, 11:17:06 PM
The review is not up on GameInformer's page yet, if you are talking the profile of the reviewer, the majority of comments are bashing the review and the reviewer.
Nah, I was referring to a different site featuring that same review (somebody posted a link in another thread). Sorry, got them mixed up.
I thought Assassin's Creed deserved a 7. It was boring after a while and repetative. The combat system was lousy (look at Batman AA for a good example) and the overall quests and story didn't deliver.
But if you like the setting and are a fan of "Jump and Runs" then you could add 1.5 Points to the score ;) It's all about tastes.
On a side note, with all the people bashing COD fans, I agree, many are assholes. But I have a friend who only plays MW2, and I got him to try AvP. He thought it was pretty cool. He probably won't buy it, but still.
guy talking about the shit avp score
http://www.allegedly-speaking.com/features/avp_smear.htm
Quote from: ikarop on Feb 07, 2010, 11:14:14 PM
TheGuardian.co.uk hands on preview here (http://www.guardian.co.uk/technology/gamesblog/2010/feb/04/games-sony).
Sweet. Im surprised Guardian is doing a review on this.
Nice review! Whoever reviewed this should tell GI how to review this game :P
Quote from: xboxgamer4life on Feb 08, 2010, 12:14:24 AM
guy talking about the shit avp score
http://www.allegedly-speaking.com/features/avp_smear.htm
Nice. The pre-pubescent boy who wrote the review for Game Informer doesn't even warrant the negative attention he's getting. He just isn't worth it.
Quote from: Steve C on Feb 08, 2010, 12:22:20 AM
Quote from: xboxgamer4life on Feb 08, 2010, 12:14:24 AM
guy talking about the shit avp score
http://www.allegedly-speaking.com/features/avp_smear.htm
Nice. The pre-pubescent boy who wrote the review for Game Informer doesn't even warrant the negative attention he's getting. He just isn't worth it.
Thanks for posting that, good to see GI's nonsense is not going unnoticed.
Quote from: xboxgamer4life on Feb 08, 2010, 12:14:24 AM
guy talking about the shit avp score
http://www.allegedly-speaking.com/features/avp_smear.htm
Thanks for the link. The guy touched on all points very well. I wonder if GI will do a (Re)-Review and have a different person review the game? But it does seem like a smear job. So much for unbiased journalism...
"For the runner alien, the team have added a projectile acid attack – it's a modified version of what we see in briefly in the latter two Alien movies. You won't have access to it when playing as the alien, but it's apparently an important balancing element in the human campaign."
Woah, first I have heard of this being in the game. Sounds interesting, and like it'll kick a Marines ass.
I'm not a fan of that kind of thing. I don't mind too much, but I don't see it as a necessity.
Quote from: The Mighty Hunter on Feb 08, 2010, 12:17:51 AM
Quote from: ikarop on Feb 07, 2010, 11:14:14 PM
TheGuardian.co.uk hands on preview here (http://www.guardian.co.uk/technology/gamesblog/2010/feb/04/games-sony).
Sweet. Im surprised Guardian is doing a review on this.
Nice review! Whoever reviewed this should tell GI how to review this game :P
Indeed, that was absolutely FANTASTIC.
Plus, PREDALIEN CONFIRMED.
I wonder if GI will do a (Re)-Review and have a different person review the game? [/quote]
I wouldn't bet on it. If anything they'll post one or two of the comments and then bash on them for being fanboys.
Quote from: RoyaleDuke on Feb 08, 2010, 03:45:36 AM
Quote from: The Mighty Hunter on Feb 08, 2010, 12:17:51 AM
Quote from: ikarop on Feb 07, 2010, 11:14:14 PM
TheGuardian.co.uk hands on preview here (http://www.guardian.co.uk/technology/gamesblog/2010/feb/04/games-sony).
Sweet. Im surprised Guardian is doing a review on this.
Nice review! Whoever reviewed this should tell GI how to review this game :P
Indeed, that was absolutely FANTASTIC.
Plus, PREDALIEN CONFIRMED.
??? Why do people still believe it was removed? It has been said like 50 times that it has been in there all the time and the info saying otherwise was wrong... sorry but I can't help being surprised by these "PREDALIEN CONFIRMED" comments that pop up from time to time.
We'll see in the next mag if they answer it in their letter section. However, I doubt it..even if it was highly unprofessional and ill logical. It won't get a re-review. Just wait until IGN, Gamespot, Gametrails and 1-up review the game. If they give it bad scores then ya know. Im not saying the game is bad..but at least in these review sites they give frickin reasons!!!!!!!!!!!!
Quote from: ikarop on Feb 08, 2010, 05:04:33 AM
??? Why do people still believe it was removed? It has been said like 50 times that it has been in there all the time and the info saying otherwise was wrong... sorry but I can't help being surprised by these "PREDALIEN CONFIRMED" comments that pop up from time to time.
Confirms?
(https://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg685.imageshack.us%2Fimg685%2F7682%2F20090603e3footagep253.jpg&hash=7e004492b64cd108c0478ea68d052ed4ce98d370)
Yo Ikarop: I know! Why do so many people assume there is no Predalien.
Well I guess you're right, cus the story itself was satisfying enough and I was aching to learn more.
.net
should the GI review score be posted in this forum anyway??
It's on metacritic which will drag avp's score down alot. Shame.
Quote from: Remonster on Feb 08, 2010, 02:43:55 AM
"For the runner alien, the team have added a projectile acid attack – it's a modified version of what we see in briefly in the latter two Alien movies. You won't have access to it when playing as the alien, but it's apparently an important balancing element in the human campaign."
I'd like to know why you
don't, if they're already putting it in there...
I'd give it a slow-ish cool-down, to reflect that you'd literally be using your internal body fluid as a weapon, but there's no reason they shouldn't have it as a last-ditch mid-ranged option.
'Cause it's dumb?
I know this all comes down to personal preference and interpretation, but I always thought the whole acid spit thing was pretty uninspired.
Quote from: Xenomorphine on Feb 08, 2010, 08:59:46 AM
Quote from: Remonster on Feb 08, 2010, 02:43:55 AM
"For the runner alien, the team have added a projectile acid attack – it's a modified version of what we see in briefly in the latter two Alien movies. You won't have access to it when playing as the alien, but it's apparently an important balancing element in the human campaign."
I'd like to know why you don't, if they're already putting it in there...
I'd give it a slow-ish cool-down, to reflect that you'd literally be using your internal body fluid as a weapon, but there's no reason they shouldn't have it as a last-ditch mid-ranged option.
Yeah if its in there it should be able to be used by the player. Give it a cool down, minimal (light attack or less) damage, and short range (no more than 5-10 meters) but have it temporarily blur vision with small stun. Would be great. Wouldn't even give alien mid-ranged abilities (keeping them pure close range). Hell, make it so that if it doesn't hit the face it wont blur vision or stun.
I'd rather have it that the hiss button,
Quote from: MadassAlex on Feb 08, 2010, 09:22:18 AM
'Cause it's dumb?
I know this all comes down to personal preference and interpretation, but I always thought the whole acid spit thing was pretty uninspired.
Its in 2 of 4 movies and fits well with the alien in general, I have no problem with it.
Eh, it's in there as a way to spice up Runners in the single player and give a bit more enemy variety rather than a full fledged ability for multiplayer. It would probably upset some of the balance. Besides, as Alex said, the whole acid spit thing is pretty lame.
I'm still having a good chuckle about the Predator being "too stealthy". It's quite like bashing a Tenchu game saying the Ninja are too stealthy.
Quote from: spychi on Feb 07, 2010, 07:03:17 PM
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my advice for this "reviewer" don't even play games that require skill
gamers.at on the other hand gave it 81%....
Can you scan the Test for us? 81% is a good score for a moviebased game.
Quote from: Eidotemit on Feb 08, 2010, 09:25:30 AM
Its in 2 of 4 movies and fits well with the alien in general, I have no problem with it.
Doesn't really change the fact that it's a terribly stock ability for a creature that's otherwise highly distinctive.
Quote from: kroenen77 on Feb 08, 2010, 09:37:45 AM
Quote from: spychi on Feb 07, 2010, 07:03:17 PM
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my advice for this "reviewer" don't even play games that require skill
gamers.at on the other hand gave it 81%....
Can you scan the Test for us? 81% is a good score for a moviebased game.
I'll ask my clan mate cause I'm not from Austria ;P
Hi..ah,ok..no problem.
I heard that this is the detail score from gamers.at for AVP:
Graphic 9/10
Sound 9/10
Handling 7/10
Story 7/10
Motivation 8/10
Single player 78%
Multi player 86%
OVERALL GAME 81 %
MP 86%..... ;D
Cool, that's about what I expected to see for this game. At least they mentioned the multiplayer. ::)
Ikarop should we be seeing more reviews this week for AvP or are we more likely to see them next week?
Edit:
Chud.com wrote up a preview for AVP
http://www.chud.com/articles/articles/22397/1/CHUD-CHECKS-OUT-SEGA039S-ALIENS-VS-PREDATOR/Page1.html
*Sets GI headquarters on fire* >:(
God forbid anyone but the community pour liquid excrement on the game.
Quote from: kroenen77 on Feb 08, 2010, 01:33:47 PM
Hi..ah,ok..no problem.
I heard that this is the detail score from gamers.at for AVP:
Graphic 9/10
Sound 9/10
Handling 7/10
Story 7/10
Motivation 8/10
Single player 78%
Multi player 86%
OVERALL GAME 81 %
MP 86%..... ;D
Can the review be found online?
Quote from: MadassAlex on Feb 08, 2010, 03:41:25 AM
I'm not a fan of that kind of thing. I don't mind too much, but I don't see it as a necessity.
Really? I actually very much am for it. I believe, if done right, it could bring much to the alien gameplay.
People aren't happy with GI, it's not just us and other fans, this article is pretty good IMO about this whole thing: http://www.allegedly-speaking.com/features/avp_smear.htm
Quote from: Mastix on Feb 08, 2010, 03:34:10 PM
Quote from: kroenen77 on Feb 08, 2010, 01:33:47 PM
Hi..ah,ok..no problem.
I heard that this is the detail score from gamers.at for AVP:
Graphic 9/10
Sound 9/10
Handling 7/10
Story 7/10
Motivation 8/10
Single player 78%
Multi player 86%
OVERALL GAME 81 %
MP 86%..... ;D
Can the review be found online?
No..its a printmedia only..but you can see the cover on gamers.at...hope somebody from austria here can post a scan in the near time.
This whole GI thing is starting to sound similar to that whole Kane and Lynch debacle thing, sort of, but not really.
Another interview at Kotaku (http://kotaku.com/5466705/digital-decapitations-a-primal-release-creator-says).
That dude dosnt understand that you have to practice with a certain species and get good with that species. After you do, the game becomes 10 times more fun. GI is prob one of the worst reviewers.
GI is basically the pilot fish of gamestop feeding off the scraps gamestop gives it from its gamestop gamers card subscriptions (a 14 dollar charge last time I checked).
Quote from: MadassAlex on Feb 01, 2010, 10:18:25 AM
Combine this with the fact that we won't be able to destroy lights in multiplayer and it reduces the cinematic quality of Alien-related multiplayer matches considerably.
Have you even played the demo???
You can smash the lights til ur little hearts content.
just ignore GI, they are just a mag that exists to make money. They were probably bitter that Sega ignored them when GI offered a higher score for a price.
they are in a sinking ship while the masses prefer near limitless online sources for reviews and media. heck people could get more out of a justin.tv session to learn if a game is good for them, than their single page reviews.
Quote from: affinity on Feb 08, 2010, 06:47:23 PM
just ignore GI, they are just a mag that exists to make money. They were probably bitter that Sega ignored them when GI offered a higher score for a price.
they are in a sinking ship while the masses prefer near limitless online sources for reviews and media. heck people could get more out of a justin.tv session to learn if a game is good for them, than their single page reviews.
Print is Dead.
Quote from: MJR DUTCH on Feb 08, 2010, 06:44:05 PM
Quote from: MadassAlex on Feb 01, 2010, 10:18:25 AM
Combine this with the fact that we won't be able to destroy lights in multiplayer and it reduces the cinematic quality of Alien-related multiplayer matches considerably.
Have you even played the demo???
You can smash the lights til ur little hearts content.
Yes he has. :)
That post was before the demo's release.
Quote from: affinity on Feb 08, 2010, 06:47:23 PM
just ignore GI, they are just a mag that exists to make money. They were probably bitter that Sega ignored them when GI offered a higher score for a price.
they are in a sinking ship while the masses prefer near limitless online sources for reviews and media. heck people could get more out of a justin.tv session to learn if a game is good for them, than their single page reviews.
My issue though is that so so so many people rely on their reviews blindly that Sega and Rebellion will suffer due to lost sales. I don't think it's unrealistic to say that solely due to that review a few thousand sales are gone and with it a chunk of funding for A:CM and other future projects.
Is it going to sink the dev/publisher/game? No, but it was a terribly done review that will have consequences.
Another little preview from Wizard Magazine #222. Thanks to mano for the scans.
(https://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg695.imageshack.us%2Fimg695%2F4158%2Fa003w.th.jpg&hash=0bc0653d9f4c55897b48581b2fea2efb25f8c527) (http://img695.imageshack.us/i/a003w.jpg/) (https://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg684.imageshack.us%2Fimg684%2F8828%2Fa004c.th.jpg&hash=996ad424e1b6df1d0e8e2b045394018baec7251a) (http://img684.imageshack.us/i/a004c.jpg/) (https://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg5.imageshack.us%2Fimg5%2F4753%2F75438486g.th.jpg&hash=2bb5396677065488edbf10598230b09e0067e3c5) (http://img5.imageshack.us/i/75438486g.jpg/) (https://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg695.imageshack.us%2Fimg695%2F8404%2Fa002m.th.jpg&hash=9d8d63404f89e51fb85d48da24774af67678a765) (http://img695.imageshack.us/i/a002m.jpg/)
Quote from: Ghost Rider LSOV on Feb 08, 2010, 07:45:50 PM
Quote from: MJR DUTCH on Feb 08, 2010, 06:44:05 PM
Quote from: MadassAlex on Feb 01, 2010, 10:18:25 AM
Combine this with the fact that we won't be able to destroy lights in multiplayer and it reduces the cinematic quality of Alien-related multiplayer matches considerably.
Have you even played the demo???
You can smash the lights til ur little hearts content.
Yes he has. :)
That post was before the demo's release.
Ah, my bad. ;D
Quote from: Darkness on Feb 08, 2010, 07:56:51 PM
Another little preview from Wizard Magazine #222. Thanks to mano for the scans.
(https://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg695.imageshack.us%2Fimg695%2F4158%2Fa003w.th.jpg&hash=0bc0653d9f4c55897b48581b2fea2efb25f8c527) (http://img695.imageshack.us/i/a003w.jpg/) (https://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg684.imageshack.us%2Fimg684%2F8828%2Fa004c.th.jpg&hash=996ad424e1b6df1d0e8e2b045394018baec7251a) (http://img684.imageshack.us/i/a004c.jpg/) (https://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg5.imageshack.us%2Fimg5%2F4753%2F75438486g.th.jpg&hash=2bb5396677065488edbf10598230b09e0067e3c5) (http://img5.imageshack.us/i/75438486g.jpg/) (https://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg695.imageshack.us%2Fimg695%2F8404%2Fa002m.th.jpg&hash=9d8d63404f89e51fb85d48da24774af67678a765) (http://img695.imageshack.us/i/a002m.jpg/)
Can't view 'em. Gateway timed out or something.
QuoteIkarop should we be seeing more reviews this week for AvP or are we more likely to see them next week?
There should be more stuff coming by the end of the week.
Also, another multiplayer preview at MLG (http://www.mlgpro.com/content/page/300573/Aliens-vs-Predator-Choose-your-Side-on-February-16th). Includes some screens and a video preview.
Quote from: ikarop on Feb 08, 2010, 09:34:55 PM
Also, another multiplayer preview at MLG (http://www.mlgpro.com/content/page/300573/Aliens-vs-Predator-Choose-your-Side-on-February-16th). Includes some screens and a video preview.
You can set the maximum amount of players to join your game, the game mode, the map... and private slots? What is that?
Quote from: ikarop on Feb 08, 2010, 09:34:55 PM
QuoteIkarop should we be seeing more reviews this week for AvP or are we more likely to see them next week?
There should be more stuff coming by the end of the week.
Also, another multiplayer preview at MLG (http://www.mlgpro.com/content/page/300573/Aliens-vs-Predator-Choose-your-Side-on-February-16th). Includes some screens and a video preview.
Have you guys received your review copy yet?
Not yet, I could be mistaken but I believe they've used a pre-gold version of the game for some of these early reviews.
Also, this seems to be a review from Igromania (Russian). Not sure since I don't understand a word from it but they gave the game a pleasent 95%.Another preview at Igromania.
(https://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg148.imageshack.us%2Fimg148%2F3079%2F02201034.th.jpg&hash=7237dd5b986463d00ba6e7096f843e48d13041fe) (http://img148.imageshack.us/i/02201034.jpg/)(https://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg12.imageshack.us%2Fimg12%2F6207%2F02201035.th.jpg&hash=9a10d1711ac2e3eccfdc7466c2e3e9e51a6c2201) (http://img12.imageshack.us/i/02201035.jpg/)
Quote from: ikarop on Feb 09, 2010, 12:45:45 AM
Not yet, I could be mistaken but I believe they've used a pre-gold version of the game for some of these early reviews.
Also, this seems to be a review from Igromania (Russian). Not sure since I don't understand a word but they gave the game a pleasent 95%.
(https://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg148.imageshack.us%2Fimg148%2F3079%2F02201034.th.jpg&hash=7237dd5b986463d00ba6e7096f843e48d13041fe) (http://img148.imageshack.us/i/02201034.jpg/)(https://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg12.imageshack.us%2Fimg12%2F6207%2F02201035.th.jpg&hash=9a10d1711ac2e3eccfdc7466c2e3e9e51a6c2201) (http://img12.imageshack.us/i/02201035.jpg/)
What the hell is that on the second page? On the top right of the page, it looks like a T-Rex Alien or something. If its a new Alien, I might like it if it is handled alright.
Terrible photoshop skills.
Awesome. Good to hear it got such a high score on at least one magazine. I somehow get the feeling that this game will be either loved or hated.
Quote from: RoyaleDuke on Feb 08, 2010, 07:36:55 PM
Print is Dead.
My geek senses flared up after reading that, so in light of what that line reminds me of and the GI interview...
Lets say this twinkie (https://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fv386%2FWulverene%2Ftwinkiesmall.png&hash=0303b0b36bad50cdb487c6a2e452fbd809a1e9e6) represents the normal rage of the avp community. Following the GI review, it would be a twinkie 35 feet long weighing approximately 600 pounds.
Non-joking aside, I'm kinda curious as to how the score range is going to end up, what with the 3 scores so far being 5.8, 8 and 9.5. (Edit: Well, the last one is a moot point since it wasn't a score.)
Quote from: Hive Tyrant on Feb 09, 2010, 12:32:25 AM
Quote from: ikarop on Feb 08, 2010, 09:34:55 PM
Also, another multiplayer preview at MLG (http://www.mlgpro.com/content/page/300573/Aliens-vs-Predator-Choose-your-Side-on-February-16th). Includes some screens and a video preview.
You can set the maximum amount of players to join your game, the game mode, the map... and private slots? What is that?
Private slots allow you to set up slots for friend only invites.
Quote from: newbeing on Feb 09, 2010, 01:22:25 AM
Quote from: Hive Tyrant on Feb 09, 2010, 12:32:25 AM
Quote from: ikarop on Feb 08, 2010, 09:34:55 PM
Also, another multiplayer preview at MLG (http://www.mlgpro.com/content/page/300573/Aliens-vs-Predator-Choose-your-Side-on-February-16th). Includes some screens and a video preview.
You can set the maximum amount of players to join your game, the game mode, the map... and private slots? What is that?
Private slots allow you to set up slots for friend only invites.
That's pretty nifty. :)
Quote from: ikarop on Feb 09, 2010, 12:45:45 AM
Also, this seems to be a review from Igromania (Russian). Not sure since I don't understand a word but they gave the game a pleasent 95%.
I used fine reader and google translator. Here you go:
It is surprising to observe how the value of a series of games Aliens vs. Predator varies from year to year. The first two parts dissimilar in many respects: they have different developers, different approaches and different levels of performance, but they share one thing - it was about the sharp shooters infantrymen. Ability to stay with something nasty and Champs intrigued, but has always been perceived as a sort of appendage, exotics, as an option - multiplayer trick. When you talk about the great AvP 2, you first of all remember, as a comrade dragged by the scruff of the hive.
But it happened that in 2010, to make a first-class fantastic shooter in the world is just a few commands, and Rebellion, alas, not one of them. We sincerely believed that the most interesting thing in the new AvP will play for the people, but familiarity with the first few levels of each of the three campaigns showed: in the equation, where there is a jolly, Alien and Predator, the last two variables - the most important. About all the facts one way or another related to Aliens vs. Predator, we have already written. Below - our impressions of how interesting to play it. And yes, this is really the last preview: release in late February, more - only a full review.
In space no one can hear you yawnJudging by the first hour of the campaign for the paratroopers, the problem with the game in the next. First, the mechanics and the third part of the formal device AvP no different from the second - in the soul of this shooter in 2001, without setting sensible and interesting situations. In the WTO-ryh, this shooter is also quite predictable.
You walk along narrow corridors, inspecting every corner with a flashlight (you can throw and light saber), pokes at the screen, listening to his partner by radio, and the plot is supplied via audio recordings from the PDA dead comrades. A typical battle scene looks like this: you walk into a dead end, you on the radio warned of the danger (rather dangerous), the ceiling falls down a couple of strangers, you kill them and go straight through the nearest hatch - he just opened. There is not a carnivore, exaggerated horror Dead Space, no penny drive Area 51. There is only awe developers to favorite fantasy series and their superstitious fear of spoiling all their own inappropriate outburst.
There are, of course, and the bright moments - for example, the authors trying to catch up with tension. For example, in one scene you're going to light a large spotlight, left on the floor. Designers specially installed it there to shadow stalking behind you Alien (and he really steals) has shown the huge. Reception, joking aside, good, but after it begins again boring walk through the corridors.
Chuzhoi not feed!Surprisingly, in the other two campaigns, the game literally alive. The most interesting thing turned Predator - AvP in his skin immediately turns into a brutal, fast slesher: you can break enemies claws, grabbing his neck and pierce through. In addition, the Predator does blunders of Zaplechny guns and can jump on the respectable distance.
With strangers situation is more complicated. On the one hand, special-abilities they also interesting: they are faster, by pressing a special button can run up the walls and ceiling, but when it comes to violence with some no -whether gaping guards bite through his head or tail pierced. On the other - it is not clear how this campaign to build an entire scene and in general drive skorohodnogo stranger in the framework of staging of interesting situations. However, the classic scene of the escape of a flock of Aliens from the lab set for cheers - just feel a huge carnivorous cockroach, escape.
But the biggest surprise yet remained outside to give us a press version. Of all the possible rokirovok we saw only the most intriguing. Man vs. Predator - in such a combination even campaign for the people can suddenly shoot. Fighting with a smart, well-developed race far more interesting than a brainless savage beasts (although those of the opponents Predator the most brainless and violent - is another question). Since his position is certainly a collision will result in stealth operations. For example, on this "Igromir" We have demonstrated the level where he had to quietly get on a military base earthlings. Predator successfully coped with the task, surreptitiously tearing a head-sky Marines ringleader.
In any case nudnovataya campaign for the Marines - it is not so scary, especially if we assume that it is not de -barks rate. The most offensive blunder - narrative: all the old, the campaign for people individually, for a stranger - separately, for the Predator - otdepno. Anyone with a working imagination can easily deduce what would have happened if we periodically let's play something for those, then for others, within the same level. Just imagine the scene in which you, for example, steals with a flashlight in the skin of the Marines, and then szhiraete himself as a stranger.
In its present form Aliens vs. Predator - too conservative, too deliberate action, which the authors clearly understand how good was AvP 2, but because they lack the spirit to change something in his device. But there is Lance Henriksen, Aliens escape from the laboratory, on the belt Predator skull rattling and shaking hands convulsively squeezed Marines flamethrower. It seems that waiting for us "Terminator: Salvation" in the computer game format. AvP sample in 2010 - a collection of relics fan disguised as dorogushchiye dull blockbuster.
Text next to score 95% score:
Several gigabytes of fans' happiness, the museum two great fantasy films, released under the guise of a computer game. Never before has a series of PTAs did not refer to themselves with such narcissism.
Nice thanks! Did fine reader work for you? It didn't let me scan the pics, idk why. Which version are you using?
...
From what I can gather from the actual text, they don't even like the game that much. Why rate it 95%?
^^ Yeah, that was confusing.
Not really a review as they had the preview version...
Quote from: ikarop on Feb 09, 2010, 01:32:36 AM
Nice thanks! Did fine reader work for you? It didn't let me scan the pics, idk why. Which version are you using?
I used verion 10. Used the open command on the toolbar on the top, deselected the non-tekst areas, added russian to languages, right clicked on tekst, did a scan and it worked quite well :) Google translator still sucks tho :P
Quote from: Snoopy the cat on Feb 09, 2010, 01:43:04 AM
Quote from: ikarop on Feb 09, 2010, 01:32:36 AM
Nice thanks! Did fine reader work for you? It didn't let me scan the pics, idk why. Which version are you using?
I used verion 10. Used the open command on the toolbar on the top, deselected the non-tekst areas, added Russian to languages, right clicked on text, did a scan and it worked quite well :) Google translator still sucks tho :P
Oh OK thx, mine is the previous version, 9.0. I guess that explains it.
yeah that review didnt' sound all too positive. What's the 95% suppose to mean then. The % of the game that's done?
Quote from: newbeing on Feb 09, 2010, 01:48:03 AM
yeah that review didnt' sound all too positive. What's the 95% suppose to mean then. The % of the game that's done?
It might be. The name of the paragraph with 95% is: Будем ждать? - Let's wait?
Quote from: Snoopy the cat on Feb 09, 2010, 01:57:20 AM
Quote from: newbeing on Feb 09, 2010, 01:48:03 AM
yeah that review didnt' sound all too positive. What's the 95% suppose to mean then. The % of the game that's done?
It might be. The name of the paragraph with 95% is: Будем ждать? - Let's wait?
Yup, готовности means "readiness".
hmm well that's disappointing :-[
This isn't a review or anything but I guess its a pdate on promo work. I recenlty just watched ufc 109. AVP was the sole sponsor material in the broadcast. Every fight it was mentioned, between fights it was mentioned. Footage of the game was also shown. Also, when the main event came aroun Bruce Buffer (announcer) announced it to the 16,000 + crowd. GREAT promo work done by SEGA. Spreading the word.
The guy who reviewed over at GI, looks like he's never seen any of the movies before. He complains about stuff that's from the movie like the radar tracker & the Predator being stealthy!!!
^ Don't forget aliens being able to crawl on walls!
It should be mandatory that game reviewers who are reviewing games based on licenses have a knowledge of the source material.
Quote from: DarthJones on Feb 09, 2010, 03:31:55 AM
It should be mandatory that game reviewers who are reviewing games based on licenses have a knowledge of the source material.
It "should" be. However it seems they thought giving it to the Driving sim guy was a good thing!
Well to be fair any tom, dick or joe should be able to pick up this game and enjoy it without previous knowledge of the films. I'm suspecting that those who are in love with the licenses will enjoy this game, while those who do not might like certain aspects, but won't dig it as a whole. Who knows.
^ Very true. However as a journalist you would think they would have some knowledge oft he source material before handling the review. Complaining about subtle things that are in the movies and in previous games is retarded in itself. If it was a regular joe then fine so be it. However, as a journalist and the medium at whci hGI is..its very unprofessional.
Usually in the beginning of the GI book, it gives a rundown of the reviewers and there speciality games. Does anyone know what types of games it mentions this guy plays?
Not to take anthing away from the guy. However, I wouldn't be surprised if his specialty was Music games.
I guess Ben does'nt do too many reviews for GameInformer, the only one that was in the December issue was for Star Wars: Battlefront Elite Squadron...
In any case we should probably just look forward to future reviews. Bad rating or not I can assume most of us will be buying the game. I get kind of down when I hear it gets low scores, because I feel people will avoid it, but if I'm having fun I've got my money's worth.
Quote from: RidgeTop on Feb 09, 2010, 04:24:01 AM
I guess Ben does'nt do too many reviews for GameInformer, the only one that was in the December issue was for Star Wars: Battlefront Elite Squadron...
No way lol That game was made by Rebellion, I guess he picks them up or something...
Quote from: ikarop on Feb 09, 2010, 04:31:13 AM
Quote from: RidgeTop on Feb 09, 2010, 04:24:01 AM
I guess Ben does'nt do too many reviews for GameInformer, the only one that was in the December issue was for Star Wars: Battlefront Elite Squadron...
No way lol That game was made by Rebellion, I guess he picks them up or something...
My thoughts exactly.
Quote from: ikarop on Feb 09, 2010, 04:31:13 AM
Quote from: RidgeTop on Feb 09, 2010, 04:24:01 AM
I guess Ben does'nt do too many reviews for GameInformer, the only one that was in the December issue was for Star Wars: Battlefront Elite Squadron...
No way lol That game was made by Rebellion, I guess he picks them up or something...
Conspiracy!
8/10 from OXM UK.
http://computerandvideogames.com/article.php?id=234150
Quote from: aliensfan on Feb 09, 2010, 07:38:31 AM
8/10 from OXM UK.
http://computerandvideogames.com/article.php?id=234150
Damn, beat me to it haha, good news indeed.
Thank god a decent review...I wasn't expecting anything GROUND BREAKING just a all around good game and it seems like we got that. The guy who wrote that GI review clearly must of had some form of beef with the source material, because almost every single point that he considered a negative....was one of the things that made the movies so great and that's part of the reason alot of people are pissed with this review. Any one person that claims "ThiS gAmE suxOR MW2!!" is just as stupid as the people that claim its the greatest game ever made when no one has played the finished product.
I can take that this reviewer very well played the finished game..he has like ONE legit critisim in the ENTIRE review about the levels seeming linear. That much I sadly was expecting, but would hardly knock the games rating below an 8.5 IMO "Poor melee combat" in all honesty if you spend more then 15 minutes playing this game online, and still haven't managed to grasp hold of the melee combat and WIN with it...you no doubt have developed some form of mental learning disability between then and the last time you turned on your xbox...sorry you just simply suck that bad...it is a VERY SIMPLE system to learn and master, but gives every character AND player a chance to counter and retaliate.
Also complaining about the level of light in a game called Aliens versus Predator is stupid at best. Maybe you need to spend a little more time watching your old dusty DVD collection before making snappy judgments about a game that so far is very faithful to its source material. The game is hardly so dark that you can't move around and your not supposed to be able to see every single alien coming at you with your flashlight...if you could everyone would just play marine and destroy everything seeing as it only takes a few shots to kill a predator or alien. I played the online demo ALOT...and it's nice to have something DIFFERENT instead of another COD with one extra feature that's going to do absolutely nothing to change the gameplay "not saying the gameplay is bad" or Halo with another gimmick. The three factions feel extremely different from one another, and it's more then possible to win no matter what you are playing as. I was disappointed with how easy it was to perform stealth kills...and that was it..just it seems you can do them from too great a distance at times...but a patch can EASILY fix that.
Lol why do inept publications refer to Colonial Marines as space marines? :D
I look forward to actually reading scans if someone is good enough to put them up.
I figure if OXM UK gives it an 8, then the North American branch will either give 7.5 or 8.5. Hopefully the latter.
Quote'The alien is the weakest of the three,' it adds. 'It's difficult to fashion a narrative around an oversized, mindless insect.'
Flames inc? :)
Quote from: Sylenall on Feb 09, 2010, 09:01:46 AM
Lol why do inept publications refer to Colonial Marines as space marines? :D
'Cause they are?
Given what some of the recent games developed by Rebellion have gotten, this is very good. I wasn't and do not expect earth shattering scores of 9/10 or over, but a solid score and 8/10 is a very solid score - a game that does the job and offers plenty of fun. If the game averages anywhere from 8 to 8.5/10 it's done well IMO.
Quote from: dude63 on Feb 07, 2010, 10:54:32 PM
Uh, well mw2 and halo does have a pretty ignorant fanbase. Sniper Eliete (another rebellio game) is constantly being flamed on youtube by cod fanboys comming in and saying cod is better.
that`s ridiculous, they`re two completely different games.
it`s like saying Super Mario World is better than Halo (ok bad example, that one`s true ;) )
Which says little, since Super Mario World > all.
Quote from: S.Y.L on Feb 09, 2010, 10:09:33 AM
Quote from: dude63 on Feb 07, 2010, 10:54:32 PM
Uh, well mw2 and halo does have a pretty ignorant fanbase. Sniper Eliete (another rebellio game) is constantly being flamed on youtube by cod fanboys comming in and saying cod is better.
that`s ridiculous, they`re two completely different games.
it`s like saying Super Mario World is better than Halo (ok bad example, that one`s true ;) )
Loved Sniper Elite sniping actually takes some skill on that game.
Quote from: HannibalKing on Feb 09, 2010, 01:06:53 AM
Quote from: RoyaleDuke on Feb 08, 2010, 07:36:55 PM
Print is Dead.
My geek senses flared up after reading that, so in light of what that line reminds me of and the GI interview...
Lets say this twinkie http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v386/Wulverene/twinkiesmall.png represents the normal rage of the avp community. Following the GI review, it would be a twinkie 35 feet long weighing approximately 600 pounds.
Non-joking aside, I'm kinda curious as to how the score range is going to end up, what with the 3 scores so far being 5.8, 8 and 9.5. (Edit: Well, the last one is a moot point since it wasn't a score.)
... that`s a helluva twinkie!
Quote from: dude63 on Feb 09, 2010, 03:24:11 AM
This isn't a review or anything but I guess its a pdate on promo work. I recenlty just watched ufc 109. AVP was the sole sponsor material in the broadcast. Every fight it was mentioned, between fights it was mentioned. Footage of the game was also shown. Also, when the main event came aroun Bruce Buffer (announcer) announced it to the 16,000 + crowd. GREAT promo work done by SEGA. Spreading the word.
:O
i missed that!!!!
just moved house and don`t get the channel that carries UFC anymore :(
Quote from: MadassAlex on Feb 09, 2010, 10:13:26 AM
Which says little, since Super Mario World > all.
motion carried :D
Quote from: Fleshtrap666 on Feb 09, 2010, 10:20:04 AM
Loved Sniper Elite sniping actually takes some skill on that game.
the bulletcam was pretty sweet as well!
Quote from: S.Y.L on Feb 09, 2010, 10:42:35 AM
Quote from: MadassAlex on Feb 09, 2010, 10:13:26 AM
Which says little, since Super Mario World > all.
motion carried :D
Quote from: Fleshtrap666 on Feb 09, 2010, 10:20:04 AM
Loved Sniper Elite sniping actually takes some skill on that game.
the bulletcam was pretty sweet as well!
Yeah loved them 800+yard shots through the eye!! lol
IGN & Gamespot will end up giving the game an 8.5 or somthing. Although it's Possible that IGN may give it a 8.7. But those are my predictions :)
Lol im loving the fact that all people are bithiching about GI's review.
Some points the review makes are valid and that re-view of the review is just as bad.
Okay so were an AVP fan forum here, so if you shit down the games neck were going to get narky (understandably) thats where the problem lies.
if the guy who rote it has not played AVP/AVP2/watched the movies he stands in a non-biast position, we dont have that so dont shoot the guy down in flames.
Quote"The human marine section (he is speaking of the campaign here) is set up like a survival horror FPS. There are a few good scares within these corridors, but after getting locked inside a room and having to fight off a horde of Xenomorphs for the 100th time, the repetition drowns the experience. It doesn't help that your flashlight is as useful at lighting up dark corners as a laser pointer."
Okay look at it, hes pointing out that is a generic get trapped shoot shoot shoot part of the game, as far as i have read from reviews the marine take ups half of the play time, so your now trapped with 6 hours of opening doors getting trapped shooting aliens, escapoing getting red key 11 for med lab 78 and low and behold trapped locked in shooting aliens.
Boring as hell, cmon i bet you get bored with asteroids / killing king cooper / getting mashed up by the physic guy in MGS ?
maby its possible hes just giving it a low score because hes going to be kissing Bad company 2's ass when it releases, but as far as im conserned that does the same thing all the other games did with shiney graphics oh and that brings me ot my point thats all this version of avp does, it does the same thing nigh on that AVP/AVP2 did with shiney graphics ( mind you we all know they are not even that shiney ).
Im dissopointed to see that the alien play time is 2-3 hours, they claimed MW2 whould be about 10 hours ame play on the hard mode i stopmed through it in 4 hours. . . . so the alien section will take me around 1 hour and a half.
Then 50% of the game is the marine ( as far as reviews have said ) thats cool but then we have got the predator with a meer 3-4 hours gameplay, that stinks for a big franchise like this dont you think ? good job some of us are getting the hunter packs when were waiting to join a game lobby we can play with our face huggers and when we have finished the game we can spend more time than the whole game MIGHT take to know our toy facehugger intimatly.
im like the films the games the books, but maby it is just going to be an average game nothign ground breaking it dioes what fan boys want and because of this the general gaming community will get little from it, just because we want it because we love the idea the franchise the previous games, is not to say if the 9 million gamers ( or howmany of us there are ) are going to eat it up like GTA/MW2/SIMS.
I hope its not as bad as the GI reviews makes out, but my expectations is a AVP2 game with shiney bits and better multiplayer, and i did not think AVP2 was that good the story was utter shit, and some of the ideas where bollocks, MP saved it.
Just letting you guys know that an Australian magazine called pcpowerplay gave AVP a 7/10 I will post the negative and positive. Things they said about the game tommorow as I don't have the mag yet but asked on the forum what they gave it.
Quote from: thecool444 on Feb 09, 2010, 11:34:53 AM
Just letting you guys know that an Australian magazine called pcpowerplay gave AVP a 7/10 I will post the negative and positive. Things they said about the game tommorow as I don't have the mag yet but asked on the forum what they gave it.
Keep in mind that a 5/10 from PC PowerPlay means that a game is good. A 6/10 is exceptional. 7/10 is great. An 8/10 is just short of a masterpiece.
I really like PCPP's method of rating games and this is exactly what I expected.
Yeah, PCPP is a great mag and I am sure they have given it a good review.
Quote from: HutzDani on Feb 09, 2010, 10:54:38 AMOkay look at it, hes pointing out that is a generic get trapped shoot shoot shoot part of the game, as far as i have read from reviews the marine take ups half of the play time, so your now trapped with 6 hours of opening doors getting trapped shooting aliens, escapoing getting red key 11 for med lab 78 and low and behold trapped locked in shooting aliens.
Boring as hell, cmon i bet you get bored with asteroids / killing king cooper / getting mashed up by the physic guy in MGS ?
Well we'll see when we play the game. I don't see it being a series of arena fights as an inherant negative... but that all depends on the core gameplay of fighting aliens. Trapped in an enclosed space with aliens sounds scary... so yeah, I'll wait to see on that if it's a fair criticism, but to call out Predators for being stealthy, to call out the motion detector as 'killing tension', to call out wall walking as disorienting (which yeah it is at first but the so is playing a FPS for the first time)... it just seems to be missing the crux of what a game based on this franchise should be. Maybe he couldn't care less about the franchises and if so... it'd be useful if he says that in his review, because the rare people that don't like the films will wonder if the game is worth buying anyways... but if he thinks he represents fans of the film... it's just such a strange review to me.
Quotemaby its possible hes just giving it a low score because hes going to be kissing Bad company 2's ass when it releases, but as far as im conserned that does the same thing all the other games did with shiney graphics oh and that brings me ot my point thats all this version of avp does, it does the same thing nigh on that AVP/AVP2 did with shiney graphics ( mind you we all know they are not even that shiney ).
the thing is there are dozens of games each year that do what Bad Company 2 et al do. We haven't had a new proper AvP since 2001. no other games really try that 'lets try and balance three completely different species' and it makes for a much more entertaining online game as you have to master and adopt to the various quirks, weaknesses and strengths of each species.
we've never had an Alien game with real time shadows. think about that.
and how do we 'all know' that graphics are not that shiny. the demo looks great on PC and is limited to the DX9 version. those of use with DX11 don't even know how pretty the final version is going to look running yet. the lighting and animation is brilliant. the various differences in the vision of the different species (and the predator's different vision modes) are really well done to boot.
yes, the fire and explosions are meh (which is a disapointment given that the first AvP had best in class fire and explosions for the time) but everything else from a technical perspective is great, and from a franchise perspictive is true to the universe.
people complaining about it being dark corridors are completely missing the point. it isn't all dark corridors, but that's what we want. we want the same kind of environments as we saw in the films and it looks like they've nailed that.
you may disagree about the art design... but i don't think it's fair to say the graphics aren't that shiny. the aliens certainly are shiny.
Is that german? where ever the review is from it gave the game an 81%
http://i48.tinypic.com/e8pbsy.jpg
Quote from: RubberChickenMan on Feb 09, 2010, 01:02:25 PM
Is that german? where ever the review is from it gave the game an 81%
http://i48.tinypic.com/e8pbsy.jpg
good find looks good
I'm back.
Played the demo. While I have to admit it was fun (played totally 8+ hours), almost everything I feared and loathed about the game was there.
And what the hell was the initial demo release supposed to mean? Greaaat signal put out there to tell everyone how much the game is unpolished.
Not suprised at all if the game gets mixed reviews, ending up as a slightly beyond average wannabe franchise succesor with decent gameplay and average graphics.
I told you so.
The demo is fail and I fear the final product will not be much different. Does anyone actually believe in what's stated in the disclaimer in demo startup?
Pux is back people :P
Looks like the germans also think its on the short side... doesnt really matter.. im gonna play it online the most I think. I hope you can choose the nightmare difficulty @ the start and dont have to have a hard playthrough first.. the sooner I get playing the sooner WPC wil win back their throne ;)
QuoteDoes anyone actually believe in what's stated in the disclaimer in demo startup?
Well I believe that it's using DX9.... That's about it.
Ok, except for the fact dx11 is included the demo WILL reflect the quality of full release. Some minor bugs and glitches get fixed but that's about it.
Quote from: RubberChickenMan on Feb 09, 2010, 01:02:25 PM
Is that german? where ever the review is from it gave the game an 81%
http://i48.tinypic.com/e8pbsy.jpg
Yes its german.Easy to read for me...because I´m from germany. ;D
The german tester says,that the Alien and Predatorstorys are very short,like an update,the KI is not good,but graphics,sound an at first the MP are very great.The tester loves AVP.Oh,and its ultrabrutal..not for children. ;D
Quote from: kroenen77 on Feb 09, 2010, 01:41:51 PM
Quote from: RubberChickenMan on Feb 09, 2010, 01:02:25 PM
Is that german? where ever the review is from it gave the game an 81%
http://i48.tinypic.com/e8pbsy.jpg
Yes its german.Easy to read for me...because I´m from germany. ;D
The german tester says,that the Alien and Predatorstorys are very short,like an update,the KI is not good,but graphics,sound an at first the MP are very great.The tester loves AVP.Oh,and its ultrabrutal..not for children. ;D
Sorry, but what is KI exactly?
KI = AI
Quote from: kroenen77 on Feb 09, 2010, 01:41:51 PM
Quote from: RubberChickenMan on Feb 09, 2010, 01:02:25 PM
Is that german? where ever the review is from it gave the game an 81%
http://i48.tinypic.com/e8pbsy.jpg
Yes its german.Easy to read for me...because I´m from germany. ;D
The german tester says,that the Alien and Predatorstorys are very short,like an update,the KI is not good,but graphics,sound an at first the MP are very great.The tester loves AVP.Oh,and its ultrabrutal..not for children. ;D
They are writing:
"So wurde, wie auch schon bei Modern Warfare 2, auf die Verwendung von dedicated Servers verzichtet [...]"
In plain englisch:
"No dedicated servers, just like in Modern Warfare 2."
They are talking about the demo, right?
It has been said numerous times, that the game will support dedicated servers.
the demo is addicting, but yeah people having trouble with the demo should be assured the full version of PS3 is getting room creation and better search features.
http://seganerds.thekartel.com/blog/2010/02/08/rebellion_apologises_for_avp_demo_issues
It seems that Rebellion is very confident in the quality of the game, and there has to be a good reason for it. The demo is fun, and if a few minor bugs are fixed, I think this game will be pretty well received (though I'm just not feeling Game of the Year, even though that would be awesome). Definitely looking forward to getting my hands on the finished product in...holy shit, ONE WEEK!
Quote from: Puks on Feb 09, 2010, 01:09:51 PM
I'm back.
Played the demo. While I have to admit it was fun (played totally 8+ hours), almost everything I feared and loathed about the game was there.
And what the hell was the initial demo release supposed to mean? Greaaat signal put out there to tell everyone how much the game is unpolished.
Not suprised at all if the game gets mixed reviews, ending up as a slightly beyond average wannabe franchise succesor with decent gameplay and average graphics.
like AvP2?
QuoteI told you so.
The demo is fail and I fear the final product will not be much different. Does anyone actually believe in what's stated in the disclaimer in demo startup?
like AvP2? that had two terrible demos prior to launch, and two good ones (if you count the updated MP demo) after.
AvP2 got mixed reviews, had what some thought an inferior single player campaign and had a really unbalanced multiplayer game at launch. hardcore fans of the first seemed to hate it... etc etc etc.
i remember the shit storm when the first two demos came out.
I guess all I'm saying is that yes, Rebellion made a mistake with the content and set up of this demo, but no bigger mistake than the AvP2 MP demo or really uninspiring AvP2 SP demo (the original one not the one that let you play as each race).
the AvP2 MP demo had much worse netcode than this, was really unbalanced (homing shoulder cannons of doom) and was full of easily exploitable glitches like the damn beachballs.
and yet, nine years on the AvP community is going strong. the full game was patched into working net code and into something resembling balance. the people that love the franchise first and gaming second will be playing this game for years to come.
it's still a really unique experience compared to other multiplayer games. it's still the first alien or predator game to have realtime dynamic shadows and an authentic predator cloak. presonally i think it's great looking and it runs like butter on PC. high resolution textures, suitably dark moody environments... it's only really the explosions and fire that are a huge let down.
UK Official Xbox Magazine gave it an 8/10.
http://www.computerandvideogames.com/article.php?id=234150
They praised it for its atmosphere and attention to detail but thought the aliens' campaign was a little weak. "Fans of the film will be more than satisfied."
We know. :)
And it is good news!
Quote from: sdlibervir on Feb 09, 2010, 03:26:53 PM
UK Official Xbox Magazine gave it an 8/10.
http://www.computerandvideogames.com/article.php?id=234150
They praised it for its atmosphere and attention to detail but thought the aliens' campaign was a little weak. "Fans of the film will be more than satisfied."
Awesome news. Thanks for the link.
Quote from: Puks on Feb 09, 2010, 01:09:51 PM
I'm back.
Played the demo. While I have to admit it was fun (played totally 8+ hours), almost everything I feared and loathed about the game was there.
And what the hell was the initial demo release supposed to mean? Greaaat signal put out there to tell everyone how much the game is unpolished.
Not suprised at all if the game gets mixed reviews, ending up as a slightly beyond average wannabe franchise succesor with decent gameplay and average graphics.
I told you so.
The demo is fail and I fear the final product will not be much different. Does anyone actually believe in what's stated in the disclaimer in demo startup?
I guess thats why the demo has a user rating of 4.5/5 on XBL, must be because its "fail."
Quote from: Kane on Feb 09, 2010, 02:41:27 PM
Quote from: kroenen77 on Feb 09, 2010, 01:41:51 PM
Quote from: RubberChickenMan on Feb 09, 2010, 01:02:25 PM
Is that german? where ever the review is from it gave the game an 81%
http://i48.tinypic.com/e8pbsy.jpg
Yes its german.Easy to read for me...because I´m from germany. ;D
The german tester says,that the Alien and Predatorstorys are very short,like an update,the KI is not good,but graphics,sound an at first the MP are very great.The tester loves AVP.Oh,and its ultrabrutal..not for children. ;D
They are writing:
"So wurde, wie auch schon bei Modern Warfare 2, auf die Verwendung von dedicated Servers verzichtet [...]"
In plain englisch:
"No dedicated servers, just like in Modern Warfare 2."
They are talking about the demo, right?
It has been said numerous times, that the game will support dedicated servers.
What?! It's a review for the full game and it says there are no dedicated servers?! I hope it's a console-version review.
Quote from: Mastix on Feb 09, 2010, 04:08:52 PM
Quote from: Kane on Feb 09, 2010, 02:41:27 PM
Quote from: kroenen77 on Feb 09, 2010, 01:41:51 PM
Quote from: RubberChickenMan on Feb 09, 2010, 01:02:25 PM
Is that german? where ever the review is from it gave the game an 81%
http://i48.tinypic.com/e8pbsy.jpg
Yes its german.Easy to read for me...because I´m from germany. ;D
The german tester says,that the Alien and Predatorstorys are very short,like an update,the KI is not good,but graphics,sound an at first the MP are very great.The tester loves AVP.Oh,and its ultrabrutal..not for children. ;D
They are writing:
"So wurde, wie auch schon bei Modern Warfare 2, auf die Verwendung von dedicated Servers verzichtet [...]"
In plain englisch:
"No dedicated servers, just like in Modern Warfare 2."
They are talking about the demo, right?
It has been said numerous times, that the game will support dedicated servers.
What?! It's a review for the full game and it says there are no dedicated servers?! I hope it's a console-version review.
Must be for consoles...right?
Quote from: Puks on Feb 09, 2010, 01:09:51 PM
The demo is a failure
fixed.
i mean, i still disagree, but it doesn`t do your point or your cause any favours when it`s written in such an infantile way.
you`re welcome ;)
Oooh... stinging! :D
For what it's worth, I enjoyed the demo.
QuoteWhat?! It's a review for the full game and it says there are no dedicated servers?! I hope it's a console-version review.
QuoteMust be for consoles...right?
No. In the picture you see at the right side of the page "Hardware-Check", so they tested the PC-Version.
The full thing they wrote is:
"So wurde, wie auch schon bei Modern Warfare 2, auf die Verwendung von dedicated Servers verzichtet und auf eine Konso-"
The "und auf eine Konso-" indicates that they are saying something about the console, but they continue writing on the next page which we don't have.
As far as i understand it (and i'm german) they're saying that there won't be dedicated servers.
Which is bogus because rebellion said there definitely will be dedicated servers for the PC-Version.
Still odd, though. ???
maybe they`re saying there won`t be any dedicated server support in germany.
y`know, with it being banned and all :D
Quote from: S.Y.L on Feb 09, 2010, 04:36:54 PM
maybe they`re saying there won`t be any dedicated server support in germany.
y`know, with it being banned and all :D
Don't say that :(
;D
I think i'm holding back now with any speculations about the game and the functions we are allowed or not allowed to use until the game is released or sega is making an official statement about it.
I don't want to get a heart attack every time i read the word "banned" "no dedicated servers" "no steam activation" and so on. :D
Quote from: Puks on Feb 09, 2010, 01:09:51 PM
I'm back.
Played the demo
admit it was fun
played 8+ hours
The demo is fail?
Does anyone actually believe in what's stated in the disclaimer in demo startup?
Well, 1up did an article saying they have played the full game, and are surprised how different and bad the demo is in comparison.
Quote from: RidgeTop on Feb 09, 2010, 04:48:37 PM
Well, 1up did an article saying they have played the full game, and are surprised how different and bad the demo is in comparison.
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Link?
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Don't have one, just remember someone talking about it. Was either 1up or gamespot.
QuoteQuote from: Giger_Incubator on Feb 09, 2010, 04:50:07 PM
Quote from: RidgeTop on Feb 09, 2010, 04:48:37 PM
Well, 1up did an article saying they have played the full game, and are surprised how different and bad the demo is in comparison.
Link?
Don't have one, just remember someone talking about it. Was either 1up or gamespot.
Maybe OXM?
http://www.oxm.co.uk/article.php?id=17128
No, it was a few days ago. Pretty sure it was 1up, they have defended the franchise in the past.
Quote from: Giger_Incubator on Feb 09, 2010, 05:03:07 PM
No, it was a few days ago. Pretty sure it was 1up, they have defended the franchise in the past.
The article was posted a few days ago (http://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/index.php?topic=27037.msg627052#msg627052).
QuoteOne of the biggest problems is that the demo feels unpolished. This can be excused somewhat by the disclaimer at the start of the demo that it's an old build but still, it's being put in the public eye to be judged and there's no denying it's lacking some spit and polish. We've played the full version, and it feels more solid, so it's a shame Rebellion couldn't rustle up some more recent code to entice players.
Quote from: ikarop on Feb 09, 2010, 05:05:26 PM
Quote from: Giger_Incubator on Feb 09, 2010, 05:03:07 PM
No, it was a few days ago. Pretty sure it was 1up, they have defended the franchise in the past.
The article was posted a few days ago.
QuoteOne of the biggest problems is that the demo feels unpolished. This can be excused somewhat by the disclaimer at the start of the demo that it's an old build but still, it's being put in the public eye to be judged and there's no denying it's lacking some spit and polish. We've played the full version, and it feels more solid, so it's a shame Rebellion couldn't rustle up some more recent code to entice players.
Oh crap, you're totally right. I thought you were talking about the new article about OXM's review. Yeah thats it, thanks.
New interview with Alex Moore (Lead designer and former forum lurker) at LoadScreen.net (http://www.loadscreen.net/2010/02/09/aliens-vs-predator-developer-interview/).
Thanks for keeping us up to date, ikarop. ;)
http://i892.photobucket.com/albums/ac123/CrazyPittsburghGuy/02201035.jpg 95%!
found it in avp.net thanks goes to DICE dont thank me
Quote from: Ersca on Feb 09, 2010, 06:45:42 PM
http://i892.photobucket.com/albums/ac123/CrazyPittsburghGuy/02201035.jpg 95%!
found it in avp.net thanks goes to DICE dont thank me
i think i saw that here too
Quote from: AMC_Duke on Feb 09, 2010, 06:48:21 PM
Quote from: Ersca on Feb 09, 2010, 06:45:42 PM
http://i892.photobucket.com/albums/ac123/CrazyPittsburghGuy/02201035.jpg 95%!
found it in avp.net thanks goes to DICE dont thank me
i think i saw that here too
oh.. ye it was there checked back a little, sorry ;P
95% isn't the score its the % of the game finished sadly :'(
Quote from: ikarop on Feb 09, 2010, 05:05:26 PM
QuoteOne of the biggest problems is that the demo feels unpolished. This can be excused somewhat by the disclaimer at the start of the demo that it's an old build but still, it's being put in the public eye to be judged and there's no denying it's lacking some spit and polish. We've played the full version, and it feels more solid, so it's a shame Rebellion couldn't rustle up some more recent code to entice players.
Man, with the unfinished Demo already being this much fun, I can't wait to play the finished product.
Quote from: Dusk on Feb 09, 2010, 06:58:01 PM
Man, with the unfinished Demo already being this much fun, I cam't wait to play the finished product.
Amen to that! ;D
Quote from: S.Y.L on Feb 09, 2010, 10:09:33 AM
Quote from: dude63 on Feb 07, 2010, 10:54:32 PM
Uh, well mw2 and halo does have a pretty ignorant fanbase. Sniper Eliete (another rebellio game) is constantly being flamed on youtube by cod fanboys comming in and saying cod is better.
that`s ridiculous, they`re two completely different games.
it`s like saying Super Mario World is better than Halo (ok bad example, that one`s true ;) )
I swear the gaming base has no common sense or smartness at times. Yes cod has a fanbase..but its totally stupid of them to be ignorant like that. Especially since the games are so different (SE actually takes skill when sniping) and I enjoyed Sniper Elite way more than I could ever enjoy a cod game. No offense to the devs its just I don't like the games.
Speaking of this. Is there any word on another Sniper Elite, Rogue Trooper...Rogue Warrior (has sold around 120,000 u.s.). Any new ip's in development? Im sorry to put you on the spot. However, Rebellion usuallys has at least acouple projects coming out each year. So far this year we have avp and Free running (wii) coming out on the same month. I was curious as to what you guys are working on. Will a annoucement be made in a press release soon on the future of the company?
So I'm sure this is probably an old interview, but no host-migration for any of the 3 platforms?
http://forums.sega.com/showthread.php?t=311141
It should be bloody mandatory by now.
I just wanted to say congratulations rebellion for the good reviews coming in:
•Empire Magazine 4/5
•Gamers.AT 81%
•OXM UK 8/10
I know this thread will probaly get locked but I just wanted to say well done.
would be interesting (and shitty) if Europe gave the game fairly good scores and all the U.S. publications gave it low scores.
I wonder how much the PC version is going to get..
Quote from: Puks on Feb 09, 2010, 09:25:44 PM
I wonder how much the PC version is going to get..
Uhm, probably the same or a nudge higher than the console versions. Most scores on games are the same. Unless their is subtle changes or modifications in a game. For example Slinter cell pc/360 and slinter cell ps3. Score changed for the ps3 version because of a crappy port job done by ubi.
Nobody cares about no host migration? :o
PC will be affected too, since ranked matches are all MM.
Quote from: Sylenall on Feb 09, 2010, 09:33:47 PM
Nobody cares about no host migration? :o
PC will be affected too, since ranked matches are all MM.
... you're kidding.
QuoteUhm, probably the same or a nudge higher than the console versions.
Doubt it. Sure, the game is cool on consoles, but I can already see a lot of reviewers complaining about graphics and some gameplay features which are a little too much console-like. All three versions are nearly identical and PC gamers are more demanding.
Quote from: Hive Tyrant on Feb 09, 2010, 09:35:28 PM
Quote from: Sylenall on Feb 09, 2010, 09:33:47 PM
Nobody cares about no host migration? :o
PC will be affected too, since ranked matches are all MM.
... you're kidding.
Not unless someone can prove this interview is false.
http://forums.sega.com/showthread.php?t=311141
Quote from: Puks on Feb 09, 2010, 09:36:55 PM
QuoteUhm, probably the same or a nudge higher than the console versions.
Doubt it. Sure, the game is cool on consoles, but I can already see a lot of reviewers complaining about graphics and some gameplay features which are a little too much console-like. All three versions are nearly identical and PC gamers are more demanding.
Possibly, however, we will have to see. Nothing wrong with each version being identical. Its better than having 3 shady port jobs. Graphical power is one thing hwoever pc gamers are getting dx11...which theg ame will look better on pc.
Quote from: Sylenall on Feb 09, 2010, 09:37:37 PM
Quote from: Hive Tyrant on Feb 09, 2010, 09:35:28 PM
Quote from: Sylenall on Feb 09, 2010, 09:33:47 PM
Nobody cares about no host migration? :o
PC will be affected too, since ranked matches are all MM.
... you're kidding.
Not unless someone can prove this interview is false.
http://forums.sega.com/showthread.php?t=311141
*curses violently*
Quote from: Puks on Feb 09, 2010, 09:36:55 PM
QuoteUhm, probably the same or a nudge higher than the console versions.
Doubt it. Sure, the game is cool on consoles, but I can already see a lot of reviewers complaining about graphics and some gameplay features which are a little too much console-like. All three versions are nearly identical and PC gamers are more demanding.
Their loss.
No ranked matches for dedicated servers, Rebellion never mentiond that, Nasty trick Rebellion, really low.
Quote from: Mastix on Feb 09, 2010, 10:30:14 PM
No ranked matches for dedicated servers, Rebellion never mentiond that, Nasty trick Rebellion, really low.
Makes sense, people can do whatever they want with dedicated servers, rank should be from fair play only.
Quote from: Mastix on Feb 09, 2010, 10:30:14 PM
No ranked matches for dedicated servers, Rebellion never mentiond that, Nasty trick Rebellion, really low.
I'm much more miffed about the absence of Host migration.
I have played ORIGINAL XBOX games that have effectively utilized host migration.
There needs to be some kind of Gaming industry law that makes it mandatory >:(
No host-migration and PC ranked matches being MM only have just been confirmed by dev:
http://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/index.php?topic=28944.30
Oh god why is there no host migration? :'(
Atleast the game will have dedicated servers and a server browser.
So I guess for PC I will play a few MM matches to unlock the skins and then will stop playing it completly and only play games on dedicated servers in the server browser :)
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Quote from: Mastix on Feb 09, 2010, 10:30:14 PM
No ranked matches for dedicated servers, Rebellion never mentiond that, Nasty trick Rebellion, really low.
I'm much more miffed about the absence of Host migration.
I have played ORIGINAL XBOX games that have effectively utilized host migration.
There needs to be some kind of Gaming industry law that makes it mandatory >:(
No host-migration and PC ranked matches being MM only have just been confirmed by dev:
http://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/index.php?topic=28944.30
Oh god why is there no host migration? :'(
I don't see how not having dedicated servers o nranked is a dirty trick. They didn't specifiy they said they would hae them. Plus ranking up is just a inccentive there to say "look im this!". Unless is changes something in the gameplay then..I would imagine most people will play unranked.
Hate to sway the current discussion here but I'm getting a bit worried as to what the current reviews are going to be from people like Gametrailers, or Gamespot. I mean when I saw the nasty review that Gameinformer had dished out, it made me rethink somethings. If AvP happens to get an average set of bad ratings, I think I'll lose faith in life...maybe end it.
Quote from: Blood Cum on Feb 10, 2010, 12:28:50 AM
Hate to sway the current discussion here but I'm getting a bit worried as to what the current reviews are going to be from people like Gametrailers, or Gamespot. I mean when I saw the nasty review that Gameinformer had dished out, it made me rethink somethings. If AvP happens to get an average set of bad ratings, I think I'll lose faith in life...maybe end it.
Don't worry about what that funking prink at GI said. The point is that you will love it and so will the true fans. They will play till the end.
OXM gave it a good score. Usually if it was as bad as gi said. OXM would of gave it a close score to that.
Quote from: alpha defekt on Feb 10, 2010, 12:33:14 AM
Quote from: Blood Cum on Feb 10, 2010, 12:28:50 AM
Hate to sway the current discussion here but I'm getting a bit worried as to what the current reviews are going to be from people like Gametrailers, or Gamespot. I mean when I saw the nasty review that Gameinformer had dished out, it made me rethink somethings. If AvP happens to get an average set of bad ratings, I think I'll lose faith in life...maybe end it.
Don't worry about what that funking prink at GI said. The point is that you will love it and so will the true fans. They will play till the end.
Makes me feel better I guess but I've played over the course of my year almost all the AvP games and I was completely looking forward to this one.
Quote from: alpha defekt on Feb 10, 2010, 12:33:14 AM
Quote from: Blood Cum on Feb 10, 2010, 12:28:50 AM
Hate to sway the current discussion here but I'm getting a bit worried as to what the current reviews are going to be from people like Gametrailers, or Gamespot. I mean when I saw the nasty review that Gameinformer had dished out, it made me rethink somethings. If AvP happens to get an average set of bad ratings, I think I'll lose faith in life...maybe end it.
Don't worry about what that funking prink at GI said. The point is that you will love it and so will the true fans. They will play till the end.
The guys from "Invisible Walls" who do the reviews for GameTrailers, said they were feeling very good about AVP.
One of the guys as destructoid Jim Sterling seems to love the game, defending it most of the time in fact, so I imagine he'll give it a good score.
Quote from: RidgeTop on Feb 10, 2010, 12:52:42 AM
Quote from: alpha defekt on Feb 10, 2010, 12:33:14 AM
Quote from: Blood Cum on Feb 10, 2010, 12:28:50 AM
Hate to sway the current discussion here but I'm getting a bit worried as to what the current reviews are going to be from people like Gametrailers, or Gamespot. I mean when I saw the nasty review that Gameinformer had dished out, it made me rethink somethings. If AvP happens to get an average set of bad ratings, I think I'll lose faith in life...maybe end it.
Don't worry about what that funking prink at GI said. The point is that you will love it and so will the true fans. They will play till the end.
The guys from "Invisible Walls" who do the reviews for GameTrailers, said they were feeling very good about AVP.
They are also the ones that review the games most of the time.
Quote from: RidgeTop on Feb 09, 2010, 10:33:19 PM
Makes sense, people can do whatever they want with dedicated servers, rank should be from fair play only.
Previous games have had ranked servers, and typically these used the game's default settings and were obliged to by the server's provider. There are systems in place for this.
Forcing us to use matchmaking in order to unlock the skins is a pretty shitty move. One of two things will happen:
1. There'll be less demand for servers, leaving us with less space to play a stable online game.
2. No-one will use the matchmaking and will instead flood the servers. You will rarely see more than the default skins.
New blog entry at SEGA's blog. Include some old screens in great HQ.
http://blogs.sega.com/usa/2010/02/09/know-your-role-alien/
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Did anyone else get the impression that Ben Reeves probably just isn't very good at this game? Everything he dislikes about this game takes time to learn and get used to.... for example, the Alien control scheme, which I think is great, and once I got used it I thought it was fun as hell. There are far more obvious flaws in this game that he didnt even mention, but in my opinion, theyre not worth mentioning anyway... because the (potential) fun factor of this game helps you overlook the little things.
Whatya think?
Yeah and the way that his review(and the one on xboxachievements.org) said that the beeping of the motion tracker was annoying. Come on. These people obviously have no interest or knowledge in the subject. I am very disappointed in their, dare I say, NOOBISH analysis.
I'd say some bribing was involved
Quote from: Slugworth on Feb 10, 2010, 02:21:06 AM
Did anyone else get the impression that Ben Reeves probably just isn't very good at this game? Everything he dislikes about this game takes time to learn and get used to.... for example, the Alien control scheme, which I think is great, and once I got used it I thought it was fun as hell. There are far more obvious flaws in this game that he didnt even mention, but in my opinion, theyre not worth mentioning anyway... because the (potential) fun factor of this game helps you overlook the little things.
Whatya think?
i didnt read his article, but your 100 % right. People these days are looking for instant gratification, they want a game like modern warfare 2 wher eyou can just pick up the controller for the first time and kill 30 people. I got freinds that downloaded the demo for the xbox 360, and they hate it after only 10 mins of play, but then i got hardcore gamer freinds that i played with and they patiently sat threw the learning stages and now are great and they only have good things to say about the game. You cant blame the writter of that article or the people that hate on the game after only playing for an hour, you got to blame the people making online games today. Most games are just not nearly as competetive as they used to be.
I havn't even read it. But judging by some of your responses I'm going to go out on a limb and suggest that someone from Rebellion has wronged the reviewer at some point. Maybe they run over his dog or something.
this probably should be in the interviews/reviews thread, but this is how I feel about the review.
Yeah its a pretty crap score, and I'm fine if that's how the guy feels, but you can't tell me that the review he wrote doesn't come off as strange in some parts. The things he complains about seem like odd complaints for an AVP game.
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There are a few good scares in these corridors, but after getting locked in a room and having to fight of a horde of aliens for the 100th time the repetition drowns the experience
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listening to aliens crawl through vents and jump out at you would be scary if your motion sensor wasn't constantly bleeping in your ear the whole time
Damn I hope this guy doesn't review any further Aliens games then...
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I have fun using the predators iconic arsenal, but the heavy focus on stealth limited melee combat
Uh this is Aliens vs Predator, not Aliens vs Chuck Norris. The predator kind of uses stealth cloak to be you know... stealthy.
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Worst of all the aliens ability to walk on walls makes it a disorienting affair, your biggest battle in this campaign will be fighting off motion sickness
Ok so fine he got sick playing the game, but can you really count that as a negative against the game? Are aliens suppose to stroll down hallways or better yet maybe they should hold on to guardrails...
He does mention things that do worry me, like the lack of Marine AI in the alien campaign (though not a lot of people complained when the thugs in Arkham didn't look up), but bitching about elements that were both used in the previous games and more importantly elements that were used in the films themselves just doesn't seem like things worth complaining about.
Again its his professional opinion, and he has played the game while I haven't, but some of his comments are just confusing.
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Worst of all the aliens ability to walk on walls makes it a disorienting affair, your biggest battle in this campaign will be fighting off motion sickness
Ok so fine he got sick playing the game, but can you really count that as a negative against the game? Are aliens suppose to stroll down hallways or better yet maybe they should hold on to guardrails...
ummm really?
I dunno, frankly the reviewer comes off sounding retarded
seriously, how can you count wall crawling as a negative in the alien campaign, it boggles my mind
His review sounds as if he played 5 minutes tops before turning to write his hate review. Seems as if he didn't even try to learn the game. Maybe if there were a fellow AI partner jangling some keys in front of himso that would keep his attention and focus. He seemed like a "slow" person with the IQ of a goldfish anyhow. Didn't say anything about facehuggers, pratorian, or even Predator conflicts in the single player. Why? Because as I said. He must have played the game as a whole for about 5min...maybe less.
Well I got motion sickness when I played Battlefield 1943, and that mate me automatically hate it. So with that said I can sort of understand why he didn't like it.
It's not a rational reason to give it a low score though. Especially since if he actually did get motion sickness from playing it, he wouldn't be able to play for more than ten minutes without vomiting or passing out lol. It's not going to make a blind bit of difference to whether I buy it or not anyway. The same can probably be said for most of you.
And people complain about the graphics not being good?
Riiiiight.
Put down the crap pipe, Chief.
This gave me my doubts until I saw the other reviews we had so far. Unless they were trying to make themselves sound better than GI at the moment.
This game has some of the best graphics I've ever seen. And I'm playing the 360 version. I can't wait to see the PC version on full settings when it's out.
Not sure if this review has been posted yet. Seems like a reasonable review.
http://seraphicgaming.com/news.php?item.102
Thanks Shataan at AVPNews forums.
Well i played the demo and so far its okay in my book, but i as well heard that AI Marines in single player campaign is terrible... like for example they dont see you or give chase if you run past them way too fast.... something like that.
@CANNON
Exactly, this game isn't for everyone. Especially the melee mechanics, "10 minute-players" hate it.
I only blame the writer because it sounds as if he played a little bit of each campaign, but with his eyes closed. In the end, I dont really care, I just think it's a hilariously bad review. I'll be buying this game anyway.
The issue that people are having with his review isn't that he finds fault with the game, it's that he's complaining about things that are central to the Alien vs Predator mythos.
His complaint about the motion tracker constantly beeping and breaking his immersion for example. Most alien fans know that it is precisely this that builds fear/anticipation in someone who's seen the movies. This is how it's supposed to work. Yet he singles it out as worthy of complaint. This alone points to the fact that he doesn't understand the point of the game.
This is not a typical fps. This is AvP. If you understand that, and try to utilize the canonical strengths and abilities of the species, then you'll find it's a good, solid game.
I hate to repeat myself, but that guy reads like a non-fighting game fan reviewing Street Fighter 4 and then complaining that the game has too many buttons, too many special moves, and too many characters to learn.
Quote from: newbeing on Feb 10, 2010, 03:41:15 AM
this probably should be in the interviews/reviews thread, but this is how I feel about the review.
Yeah its a pretty crap score, and I'm fine if that's how the guy feels, but you can't tell me that the review he wrote doesn't come off as strange in some parts. The things he complains about seem like odd complaints for an AVP game.
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There are a few good scares in these corridors, but after getting locked in a room and having to fight of a horde of aliens for the 100th time the repetition drowns the experience
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listening to aliens crawl through vents and jump out at you would be scary if your motion sensor wasn't constantly bleeping in your ear the whole time
Damn I hope this guy doesn't review any further Aliens games then...
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I have fun using the predators iconic arsenal, but the heavy focus on stealth limited melee combat
Uh this is Aliens vs Predator, not Aliens vs Chuck Norris. The predator kind of uses stealth cloak to be you know... stealthy.
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Worst of all the aliens ability to walk on walls makes it a disorienting affair, your biggest battle in this campaign will be fighting off motion sickness
Ok so fine he got sick playing the game, but can you really count that as a negative against the game? Are aliens suppose to stroll down hallways or better yet maybe they should hold on to guardrails...
He does mention things that do worry me, like the lack of Marine AI in the alien campaign (though not a lot of people complained when the thugs in Arkham didn't look up), but bitching about elements that were both used in the previous games and more importantly elements that were used in the films themselves just doesn't seem like things worth complaining about.
Again its his professional opinion, and he has played the game while I haven't, but some of his comments are just confusing.
What an ignorant bastard. "the aliens would be more scary if the motion sensor wasnt constantly going off" WTF. has this dude never seen aliens before? The aliens wall walk and pouncing is disorienting at first, but after 20 minutes of working on it i basically mastered it...though i am a vet of the two previous games. its so much more exhilarating making your escape by jumping wall to wall. as for the predator chuck norris thing...wow
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listening to aliens crawl through vents and jump out at you would be scary if your motion sensor wasn't constantly bleeping in your ear the whole time
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Worst of all the aliens ability to walk on walls makes it a disorienting affair, your biggest battle in this campaign will be fighting off motion sickness
Wow ... just wow. Those two clear out show me that he's not into Aliens or Predator univers, or games that aren't all carbon copies of each other.
The fact that he praises the movies and the '99 game, then bashes this one for things that are incredibly iconic to either one or both of them.
Aliens wall walking, marines fighting hordes of aliens and the motion tacker, the pred being stealthy. It reads like a bad joke, and as if written by someone who is not only unfamiliar with the franchise, but doesn't like or have any interest in it.
SOA's Q&A with Tim Jones.
http://blogs.sega.com/usa/2010/02/09/aliens-vs-predator-community-qa-2/
Quote from: newbeing on Feb 10, 2010, 04:34:55 AM
Not sure if this review has been posted yet. Seems like a reasonable review.
http://seraphicgaming.com/news.php?item.102
Thanks Shataan at AVPNews forums.
T4P, we had it posted on the 1st page as well.
His explanation for not including LC seems like a lazy excuse to me.
They already modeled the facehugger and such...cant seriously have taken much more work.
Heres hoping it appears in a sequel.
No Predalien MP skin also feels lazy.
They could have just reworked the model for MP and applied it. Really a disappointment.
My only true complaints : P
I think what he said about the predalien and facehugger is fair enough. It wouldn't be all that good if they were just reskinned aliens.
Quote from: PsychoticMarik on Feb 10, 2010, 05:24:40 AM
No Predalien MP skin also feels lazy.
They could have just reworked the model for MP and applied it. Really a disappointment.
My only true complaints : P
I know if you cycle through skins in the demo (x360) it lists a Predalien...
It lists "Alien" under the predator skins, which is one of the skins you get with the special edition. It's a predator wearing an alien styled mask. There's no predalien in multiplayer.
I had only glanced at it before, but looking at it again it says: Praetorian not Predalien.
Wishful thinking, I guess. :P
Quote from: l3awl3ag on Feb 10, 2010, 05:32:58 AM
I think what he said about the predalien and facehugger is fair enough. It wouldn't be all that good if they were just reskinned aliens.
I dont think its fair honestly.
I know they had to spend alot of time with each race considering how different each one is, but I cant help but feel like they deliberately held back. Perhaps they need things like LC left out so the next game feels like it has more.
Still...the facehugger is already modeled and animated...all it needs is a single attack anyway.
As for the predalien...this game doesn't have classes, so excluding the predalien as a MP skin is just lazy.
We don't know how it behaves in the story, but it doesn't matter. They could have simply taken a little extra time to rescale the model(if needed)and apply it to the regular alien animations.
I feel a bit cheated that they didn't do these things, and I don't think that's unfair.
Overall I'm satisfied tho, and I can always hope to see these added later.
Quote from: PsychoticMarik on Feb 10, 2010, 03:37:18 PM
As for the predalien...this game doesn't have classes, so excluding the predalien as a MP skin is just lazy.
We don't know how it behaves in the story, but it doesn't matter. They could have simply taken a little extra time to rescale the model(if needed)and apply it to the regular alien animations.
Maybe you've missed something, but on the whole Predaliens are
much stronger than regular Aliens. It would feel weird -- and wrong -- playing a Predalien without it being any stronger or faster at all.
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Quote from: PsychoticMarik on Feb 10, 2010, 03:37:18 PM
As for the predalien...this game doesn't have classes, so excluding the predalien as a MP skin is just lazy.
We don't know how it behaves in the story, but it doesn't matter. They could have simply taken a little extra time to rescale the model(if needed)and apply it to the regular alien animations.
Maybe you've missed something, but on the whole Predaliens are much stronger than regular Aliens. It would feel weird -- and wrong -- playing a Predalien without it being any stronger or faster at all.
Perhaps some DLC will come out where you can play as the Predalien in its own particular multiplayer mode.
Quote from: Hive Tyrant on Feb 10, 2010, 03:39:46 PM
Quote from: PsychoticMarik on Feb 10, 2010, 03:37:18 PM
As for the predalien...this game doesn't have classes, so excluding the predalien as a MP skin is just lazy.
We don't know how it behaves in the story, but it doesn't matter. They could have simply taken a little extra time to rescale the model(if needed)and apply it to the regular alien animations.
Maybe you've missed something, but on the whole Predaliens are much stronger than regular Aliens. It would feel weird -- and wrong -- playing a Predalien without it being any stronger or faster at all.
No it wouldn't...this is MP. Its doesn't have to follow canon point by point.
Correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't a praetorian stronger as well, and isn't that alien not even considered canon?
What about Grid? Isn't it weird that a alien character from the movies is running around in MP?
You cant use power to argue against it in MP. Its exclusion in that aspect doesn't make sense.
This is why I feel rather cheated out of a skin that you would have thought would have been a no brainier.
Quote from: PsychoticMarik on Feb 10, 2010, 04:10:22 PM
Quote from: Hive Tyrant on Feb 10, 2010, 03:39:46 PM
Quote from: PsychoticMarik on Feb 10, 2010, 03:37:18 PM
As for the predalien...this game doesn't have classes, so excluding the predalien as a MP skin is just lazy.
We don't know how it behaves in the story, but it doesn't matter. They could have simply taken a little extra time to rescale the model(if needed)and apply it to the regular alien animations.
Maybe you've missed something, but on the whole Predaliens are much stronger than regular Aliens. It would feel weird -- and wrong -- playing a Predalien without it being any stronger or faster at all.
No it wouldn't...this is MP. Its doesn't have to follow canon point by point.
Correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't a praetorian stronger as well, and isn't that alien not even considered canon?
What about Grid? Isn't it weird that a alien character from the movies is running around in MP?
You cant use power to argue against it in MP. Its exclusion in that aspect doesn't make sense.
This is why I feel rather cheated out of a skin that you would have thought would have been a no brainier.
Dunno anything about the Praetorian. :P Grid is just another ordinary Alien who happens to kick ass. I understand it doesn't have to fit canon, but it still feels absurd playing something I know should be 10x stronger.
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Quote from: PsychoticMarik on Feb 10, 2010, 04:10:22 PM
Quote from: Hive Tyrant on Feb 10, 2010, 03:39:46 PM
Quote from: PsychoticMarik on Feb 10, 2010, 03:37:18 PM
As for the predalien...this game doesn't have classes, so excluding the predalien as a MP skin is just lazy.
We don't know how it behaves in the story, but it doesn't matter. They could have simply taken a little extra time to rescale the model(if needed)and apply it to the regular alien animations.
Maybe you've missed something, but on the whole Predaliens are much stronger than regular Aliens. It would feel weird -- and wrong -- playing a Predalien without it being any stronger or faster at all.
No it wouldn't...this is MP. Its doesn't have to follow canon point by point.
Correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't a praetorian stronger as well, and isn't that alien not even considered canon?
What about Grid? Isn't it weird that a alien character from the movies is running around in MP?
You cant use power to argue against it in MP. Its exclusion in that aspect doesn't make sense.
This is why I feel rather cheated out of a skin that you would have thought would have been a no brainier.
Dunno anything about the Praetorian. :P Grid is just another ordinary Alien who happens to kick ass. I understand it doesn't have to fit canon, but it still feels absurd playing something I know should be 10x stronger.
I understand your view on it, but for the masses I dont think its a valid reason to exclude it.
Rebellion invented a alien with a 6 on its head, and even used a comic book alien.
It seems they were fishing for skins to fill the gap for aliens, but neglected one of the most well known and most popular. Aliens still have one less skin than the others, so I just dont understand its absence.
I'm still hoping its possible with DLC...
The Alien with the 6 on its head is the one you play in the campaign, IIRC. Seems logical to put it in the MP.
You have a good point, but it would still be weird for me.
Quote from: Hive Tyrant on Feb 10, 2010, 04:18:59 PM
The Alien with the 6 on its head is the one you play in the campaign, IIRC. Seems logical to put it in the MP.
You have a good point, but it would still be weird for me.
Yeah 6 is from the story, and so it would be very odd to exclude that alien as well.
However...I kinda get the feeling that the six was done in part because they knew it could be a different skin in MP. I don't see anything wrong with that, but you get my point.
I guess were all just gonna have to wait and see. I would be surprised tho if they didn't release any DLC skins.
Quote from: PsychoticMarik on Feb 10, 2010, 04:17:33 PM
Quote from: Hive Tyrant on Feb 10, 2010, 04:14:20 PM
Quote from: PsychoticMarik on Feb 10, 2010, 04:10:22 PM
Quote from: Hive Tyrant on Feb 10, 2010, 03:39:46 PM
Quote from: PsychoticMarik on Feb 10, 2010, 03:37:18 PM
As for the predalien...this game doesn't have classes, so excluding the predalien as a MP skin is just lazy.
We don't know how it behaves in the story, but it doesn't matter. They could have simply taken a little extra time to rescale the model(if needed)and apply it to the regular alien animations.
Maybe you've missed something, but on the whole Predaliens are much stronger than regular Aliens. It would feel weird -- and wrong -- playing a Predalien without it being any stronger or faster at all.
No it wouldn't...this is MP. Its doesn't have to follow canon point by point.
Correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't a praetorian stronger as well, and isn't that alien not even considered canon?
What about Grid? Isn't it weird that a alien character from the movies is running around in MP?
You cant use power to argue against it in MP. Its exclusion in that aspect doesn't make sense.
This is why I feel rather cheated out of a skin that you would have thought would have been a no brainier.
Dunno anything about the Praetorian. :P Grid is just another ordinary Alien who happens to kick ass. I understand it doesn't have to fit canon, but it still feels absurd playing something I know should be 10x stronger.
I understand your view on it, but for the masses I dont think its a valid reason to exclude it.
Rebellion invented a alien with a 6 on its head, and even used a comic book alien.
It seems they were fishing for skins to fill the gap for aliens, but neglected one of the most well known and most popular. Aliens still have one less skin than the others, so I just dont understand its absence.
I'm still hoping its possible with DLC...
I would imagine that the main reason is because the predalien is already in the game in singleplayer and the model is seperate from the standard warrior model in that it is much larger, which you cant use due to the larger hit box attached to it. I suppose you could easily make a skin for the warrior model that would look like a predalien, but the idea of having 2 models for one creature (an mp and an sp model) may be confusing or just seem alittle pointless.
New interview with Dave Brickley at CVG, part 1 (http://www.computerandvideogames.com/article.php?id=234430).
QuoteI would imagine that the main reason is because the predalien is already in the game in singleplayer and the model is seperate from the standard warrior model in that it is much larger, which you cant use due to the larger hit box attached to it. I suppose you could easily make a skin for the warrior model that would look like a predalien, but the idea of having 2 models for one creature (an mp and an sp model) may be confusing or just seem alittle pointless.
I dont see how it would be confusing or pointless in anyway.
Having more skins(mainly one as popular and well known as predalien)only adds to the games content.
It would give more alien variety(since most look almost exactly the same anyway)and give players more models to kill.
Still...I'm hoping for some DLC.
Quote from: ikarop on Feb 10, 2010, 06:29:01 PM
New interview with Dave Brickley at CVG, part 1 (http://www.computerandvideogames.com/article.php?id=234430).
Interesting read, sucks they only put half of it up so far...
Why does everyone assume its not in there? Just because its not in the multiplayer options, doesn't mean its not there. Surely they wouldn't want to show all their secrets.
QuoteLet's be frank - the AVP movies suck, right?
Lol...I didn't think they sucked.
Quote from: Avp3 ftw on Feb 10, 2010, 10:42:32 PM
QuoteLet's be frank - the AVP movies suck, right?
Lol...I didn't think they sucked.
:o AvP:R certainly did.
Both movies sucked horribly, but Wolf was such a badass.
Quote from: Steve C on Feb 11, 2010, 01:20:48 AMbut Wolf was such a badass.
This is really off-topic, but no, not really.
Quote from: Steve C on Feb 11, 2010, 01:20:48 AM
Both movies sucked horribly, but Wolf was such a badass.
If by badass, you mean completely bathed script immunity and beating up on retarded weaklings then yeah I guess he was pretty badass.
Quote from: Spaghetti on Feb 11, 2010, 01:52:29 AM
Quote from: Steve C on Feb 11, 2010, 01:20:48 AM
Both movies sucked horribly, but Wolf was such a badass.
If by badass, you mean completely bathed script immunity and beating up on retarded weaklings then yeah I guess he was pretty badass.
Sounds alot like the predator from the first movie actually.
Quote from: PsychoticMarik on Feb 11, 2010, 02:26:13 AM
Quote from: Spaghetti on Feb 11, 2010, 01:52:29 AM
Quote from: Steve C on Feb 11, 2010, 01:20:48 AM
Both movies sucked horribly, but Wolf was such a badass.
If by badass, you mean completely bathed script immunity and beating up on retarded weaklings then yeah I guess he was pretty badass.
Sounds alot like the predator from the first movie actually.
Arnie was such a weakling! ::)
Quote from: Giger_Incubator on Feb 10, 2010, 10:40:30 PM
Why does everyone assume its not in there? Just because its not in the multiplayer options, doesn't mean its not there. Surely they wouldn't want to show all their secrets.
It's not in there because it's been confirmed in multiple Interviews and Q&As.
Come on, Wolf punched an alien in the face! He was so cool. Ian Whyte did an amazing job.
Wolf decided that he wanted to shoot two acid-bleeding monsters while holding them.
Second guide at SOA's blog, here (http://blogs.sega.com/usa/2010/02/10/know-your-role-predator/).
Quote from: predalien27 on Feb 11, 2010, 03:04:57 AM
Quote from: PsychoticMarik on Feb 11, 2010, 02:26:13 AM
Quote from: Spaghetti on Feb 11, 2010, 01:52:29 AM
Quote from: Steve C on Feb 11, 2010, 01:20:48 AM
Both movies sucked horribly, but Wolf was such a badass.
If by badass, you mean completely bathed script immunity and beating up on retarded weaklings then yeah I guess he was pretty badass.
Sounds alot like the predator from the first movie actually.
Arnie was such a weakling! ::)
So could we then argue that Arnie was like wolf in the first predator movie? lul
More seriously tho...Arnie is super human : P
I lul'd when he took a plasma shot to the arm and nothing happened. While the other guy lost his arm entirely.
Quote from: PsychoticMarik on Feb 11, 2010, 04:05:50 AM
Quote from: predalien27 on Feb 11, 2010, 03:04:57 AM
Quote from: PsychoticMarik on Feb 11, 2010, 02:26:13 AM
Quote from: Spaghetti on Feb 11, 2010, 01:52:29 AM
Quote from: Steve C on Feb 11, 2010, 01:20:48 AM
Both movies sucked horribly, but Wolf was such a badass.
If by badass, you mean completely bathed script immunity and beating up on retarded weaklings then yeah I guess he was pretty badass.
Sounds alot like the predator from the first movie actually.
Arnie was such a weakling! ::)
So could we then argue that Arnie was like wolf in the first predator movie? lul
More seriously tho...Arnie is super human : P
I lul'd when he took a plasma shot to the arm and nothing happened. While the other guy lost his arm entirely.
The one guy in P2 took a plasma shot to the face and lived!
Seriously?
Been a long time since I've seen the 2nd one.
Guess this game follows canon a bit better than we thought eh?
Crazy powerful humans.
Quote from: predalien27 on Feb 11, 2010, 04:09:14 AM
Quote from: PsychoticMarik on Feb 11, 2010, 04:05:50 AM
Quote from: predalien27 on Feb 11, 2010, 03:04:57 AM
Quote from: PsychoticMarik on Feb 11, 2010, 02:26:13 AM
Quote from: Spaghetti on Feb 11, 2010, 01:52:29 AM
Quote from: Steve C on Feb 11, 2010, 01:20:48 AM
Both movies sucked horribly, but Wolf was such a badass.
If by badass, you mean completely bathed script immunity and beating up on retarded weaklings then yeah I guess he was pretty badass.
Sounds alot like the predator from the first movie actually.
Arnie was such a weakling! ::)
So could we then argue that Arnie was like wolf in the first predator movie? lul
More seriously tho...Arnie is super human : P
I lul'd when he took a plasma shot to the arm and nothing happened. While the other guy lost his arm entirely.
The one guy in P2 took a plasma shot to the face and lived!
Well the laws of physics don't apply to Gary Busey... signified by his levitating torso after the smart disc cuts him in two.
Quote from: PsychoticMarik on Feb 10, 2010, 05:24:40 AM
His explanation for not including LC seems like a lazy excuse to me.
They already modeled the facehugger and such...cant seriously have taken much more work
are you serious??
"you have the model, surely the game just creates itself around that??"
the ignorance of that actually hurts my brain.
draw a car.... by your logic you`ll find yourself playing Burnout the second you lift the pencil from the paper.
i`m sick and tired of reading that every answer we give is "a lazy excuse"
NO-ONE who worked on this game can be called lazy in any way, it`s been a ludicrous amount of work and it`s been said countless times that some things simply didn`t make it into the game for a variety of legitimate and valid reasons, none of them lazy.
also - read Reply #1293 from Aimless.
Quote from: S.Y.L on Feb 11, 2010, 09:22:29 AM
Quote from: PsychoticMarik on Feb 10, 2010, 05:24:40 AM
His explanation for not including LC seems like a lazy excuse to me.
They already modeled the facehugger and such...cant seriously have taken much more work
are you serious??
"you have the model, surely the game just creates itself around that??"
the ignorance of that actually hurts my brain.
draw a car.... by your logic you`ll find yourself playing Burnout the second you lift the pencil from the paper.
i`m sick and tired of reading that every answer we give is "a lazy excuse"
NO-ONE who worked on this game can be called lazy in any way, it`s been a ludicrous amount of work and it`s been said countless times that some things simply didn`t make it into the game for a variety of legitimate and valid reasons, none of them lazy.
also - read Reply #1293 from Aimless.
Spot on that is.
I 've read so much of, i would have done this and they should have done this. The demo is great the way it is and i can't wait for the full game. Which is BETTER than the demo as the demo is only a pre-code.
So when do you guys think the big sites like IGN will be posting their reviews? The American release is just days away, I'm interested to see what kind of reaction it recieves from them.
Quote from: Big Head Ninja on Feb 11, 2010, 10:59:12 AM
So when do you guys think the big sites like IGN will be posting their reviews? The American release is just days away, I'm interested to see what kind of reaction it recieves from them.
IGN 8.5 good review toooo!! ;D ;D ;D
Quote from: S.Y.L on Feb 11, 2010, 09:22:29 AM
Quote from: PsychoticMarik on Feb 10, 2010, 05:24:40 AM
His explanation for not including LC seems like a lazy excuse to me.
They already modeled the facehugger and such...cant seriously have taken much more work
are you serious??
"you have the model, surely the game just creates itself around that??"
the ignorance of that actually hurts my brain.
draw a car.... by your logic you`ll find yourself playing Burnout the second you lift the pencil from the paper.
i`m sick and tired of reading that every answer we give is "a lazy excuse"
NO-ONE who worked on this game can be called lazy in any way, it`s been a ludicrous amount of work and it`s been said countless times that some things simply didn`t make it into the game for a variety of legitimate and valid reasons, none of them lazy.
also - read Reply #1293 from Aimless.
Right...because you know its not like they have all the animations done for the facehugger or anything.
Wait...they do. I know its no easy task, but really when all the needed models are already done and animations including for SP its valid that I would feel a bit ripped off that they didn't add a mode they easily could have. I wouldn't be at all surprised to find out that they had held it back on purpose for a sequel just because they need the new content.
I can live without it, but I think my point is valid.
They would have received more praise for such a unique game type, and everyone's a bit disappointed that its not there.
Everyone?
I didn't hate the facehugger gameplay, but ultimately I thought it was wasted time in the SP Alien campaign. It was fun in multiplayer, but horribly imbalanced as well.
Personally, I don't think it's a bad thing that it's not included.
QuoteRight...because you know its not like they have all the animations done for the facehugger or anything.
Wait...they do. I know its no easy task, but really when all the needed models are already done and animations including for SP its valid that I would feel a bit ripped off that they didn't add a mode they easily could have. I wouldn't be at all surprised to find out that they had held it back on purpose for a sequel just because they need the new content.
I agree that somethings were put off due to being "lazy".. However, for Life Cycle that is a legitimate reason. That would take quite a bit of time and work... and in the long run, time and money that could have been spent on the core of the game. I would rather all the resources be spent on making the core as perfect as possible, as it will require less patching, which is good for everyone. I miss LC, but I can completely understand why it was left out.
Quote from: PLEXI on Feb 11, 2010, 01:32:24 PM
I agree that somethings were put off due to being "lazy"
i give up :D
because a model is done and has some animations doesn`t mean a thing without a game to put them into.
what you`ve got there is a flickbook, NOT a game
Got the latest issue of OXM. Will scan up after work.
Quote from: S.Y.L on Feb 11, 2010, 01:36:57 PM
Quote from: PLEXI on Feb 11, 2010, 01:32:24 PM
I agree that somethings were put off due to being "lazy"
i give up :D
because a model is done and has some animations doesn`t mean a thing without a game to put them into.
what you`ve got there is a flickbook, NOT a game
Don't bother, some people would criticize The David as lazy since its all one color.
Quote from: Corporal Hicks on Feb 11, 2010, 01:41:15 PM
Got the latest issue of OXM. Will scan up after work.
Nice thnx! They don't sell the OXM here anymore, I wonder why.
Quote from: Eidotemit on Feb 11, 2010, 01:42:03 PM
Don't bother, some people would criticize The David as lazy since its all one color.
lol
Rodins thinker doesn`t look like he`s thinking
hard enough either....
ign uk's review is out
http://uk.xbox360.ign.com/articles/106/1068446p1.html
enjoy
Edit: just realized it was posted anyways this is for anyone who missed it such as myself.
Quote from: ikarop on Feb 11, 2010, 01:44:45 PM
Quote from: Corporal Hicks on Feb 11, 2010, 01:41:15 PM
Got the latest issue of OXM. Will scan up after work.
Nice thnx! They don't sell the OXM here anymore, I wonder why.
8 out of 10. The only thing they didn't like was that they thought the marine campaign was better than the others. Stating that the marine campaign was perfect and the most authentic Aliens experience ever. Very positive review. Can't say I agree on their comments about the other campaigns, however. It was mostly just about complaints of the narrative not being as driving. And that some points where the locations in the games intersected and weren't as fresh.
Quote from: Corporal Hicks on Feb 11, 2010, 02:31:47 PM
Quote from: ikarop on Feb 11, 2010, 01:44:45 PM
Quote from: Corporal Hicks on Feb 11, 2010, 01:41:15 PM
Got the latest issue of OXM. Will scan up after work.
Nice thnx! They don't sell the OXM here anymore, I wonder why.
8 out of 10. The only thing they didn't like was that they thought the marine campaign was better than the others. Stating that the marine campaign was perfect and the most authentic Aliens experience ever. Very positive review. Can't say I agree on their comments about the other campaigns, however. It was mostly just about complaints of the narrative not being as driving. And that some points where the locations in the games intersected and weren't as fresh.
Sounds reasonable, I can't see myself complain about that stuff tho. I'm pretty sure which will be my favorite campaign. Also, I guess there hasn't been a game like AvP in years and the other campaigns aren't as conventional as the marine one, the reviewers might tend to prefer it... we'll know for sure on the 19th :P
Btw, just learned from Sega that IGN got the exclusive to release the review online this early, it's the only online review that will go live this week. The rest of online reviews will go live on Monday Jan 15th from 3 P.M. GMT+0.
Is that UK IGN only or both U.S. and Australia as well?
Quote from: newbeing on Feb 11, 2010, 03:42:03 PM
Is that UK IGN only or both U.S. and Australia as well?
uk only.
Quotebecause a model is done and has some animations doesn`t mean a thing without a game to put them into.
what you`ve got there is a flickbook, NOT a game
>_>... I put lazy in quotes for a reason. I'm well aware of the game development process.
QuoteThe only thing they didn't like was that they thought the marine campaign was better than the others.
That's kind of expected. It's been the case since the first AVP game. I just hope the difference isn't too jarring.
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Btw, just learned from Sega that IGN got the exclusive to release the review online this early, it's the only online review that will go live this week. The rest of online reviews will go live on Monday Jan 15th from 3 P.M. GMT+0.
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Thats not a good thing.... it might be because they knew it was the highest score it was going to get ''online'' build the hype a bit more maybe... we'll see.
I think Gametrailers will hate it 7.5 tops.....!!
We'll see though!!
Quote from: LogansFolly on Feb 11, 2010, 04:50:09 PM
QuoteBtw, just learned from Sega that IGN got the exclusive to release the review online this early, it's the only online review that will go live this week. The rest of online reviews will go live on Monday Jan 15th from 3 P.M. GMT+0.
Thats not a good thing.... it might be because they knew it was the highest score it was going to get ''online'' build the hype a bit more maybe... we'll see.
I think Gametrailers will hate it 7.5 tops.....!!
We'll see though!!
Not really, besides magazines are still releasing more reviews. Apparently
Eurogamer (
NOT THEM) will give the game a 9/10 so not the highest in the UK.
QuoteThe rest of online reviews will go live on Monday Jan 15th from 3 P.M. GMT+0.
Jan 15th ? God damm, I guess we have to wait another year for those then hehe ;)
That's for the UK. Not sure about how the US team is managing it. I should ask I guess.
I imagine we'll see more this coming weekend.
The IGN guy with the beard was sitting behind me for some of their testing.
He -yelped- once when he got jumped by a xeno. ;D
Quote from: ikarop on Feb 11, 2010, 05:02:06 PM
Quote from: LogansFolly on Feb 11, 2010, 04:50:09 PM
QuoteBtw, just learned from Sega that IGN got the exclusive to release the review online this early, it's the only online review that will go live this week. The rest of online reviews will go live on Monday Jan 15th from 3 P.M. GMT+0.
Thats not a good thing.... it might be because they knew it was the highest score it was going to get ''online'' build the hype a bit more maybe... we'll see.
I think Gametrailers will hate it 7.5 tops.....!!
We'll see though!!
Not really, besides magazines are still releasing more reviews. Apparently Eurogamer will give the game a 9/10 so not the highest in the UK.
Dang really?
Eurogamer is usually pretty tough when it comes to reviews.
Quote from: Drewid on Feb 11, 2010, 05:34:44 PM
The IGN guy with the beard was sitting behind me for some of their testing.
He -yelped- once when he got jumped by a xeno. ;D
Hahahaha, awesome. :D I know the feeling. Sort of.
Quote from: Hive Tyrant on Feb 11, 2010, 05:47:36 PM
Quote from: Drewid on Feb 11, 2010, 05:34:44 PM
The IGN guy with the beard was sitting behind me for some of their testing.
He -yelped- once when he got jumped by a xeno. ;D
Hahahaha, awesome. :D I know the feeling. Sort of.
My GF made fun of me when i played AVP2 for the same reason.
Quote from: newbeing on Feb 11, 2010, 05:43:46 PM
Dang really? Eurogamer is usually pretty tough when it comes to reviews.
No doubt about that one. If your game gets a 9/10 from
eurogamer..then you accomplished wonders. They give games that get great scores across the board some bad scores at times. They are stricter than @#% lol.
http://saturn.afmu.com/~virtec20/oxmukavp1.jpg
http://saturn.afmu.com/~virtec20/oxmukavp2.jpg
http://saturn.afmu.com/~virtec20/oxmukavp3.jpg
http://saturn.afmu.com/~virtec20/oxmukavp4.jpg
OXM Review.
Quote from: newbeing on Feb 11, 2010, 05:43:46 PM
Quote from: ikarop on Feb 11, 2010, 05:02:06 PM
Quote from: LogansFolly on Feb 11, 2010, 04:50:09 PM
QuoteBtw, just learned from Sega that IGN got the exclusive to release the review online this early, it's the only online review that will go live this week. The rest of online reviews will go live on Monday Jan 15th from 3 P.M. GMT+0.
Thats not a good thing.... it might be because they knew it was the highest score it was going to get ''online'' build the hype a bit more maybe... we'll see.
I think Gametrailers will hate it 7.5 tops.....!!
We'll see though!!
Not really, besides magazines are still releasing more reviews. Apparently Eurogamer will give the game a 9/10 so not the highest in the UK.
Dang really? Eurogamer is usually pretty tough when it comes to reviews.
Nvm, I totally misread it sorry, it is
NOT EUROGAMER who gave the 9/10. Not sure which media outlet is that one yet.
Quote from: Corporal Hicks on Feb 11, 2010, 06:04:02 PM
http://saturn.afmu.com/~virtec20/oxmukavp1.jpg
http://saturn.afmu.com/~virtec20/oxmukavp2.jpg
http://saturn.afmu.com/~virtec20/oxmukavp3.jpg
http://saturn.afmu.com/~virtec20/oxmukavp4.jpg
Sweet, thank you. :)
Thanks a bunch, Hicks! :D C'mere and give me a kiss, you giant horrifying... Colonial Marine.
Thanks for the scans! I'll make a gallery on imageshack to have them in one link if you don't mind.
Ah yes, Mike Channell: "The Face & Voice of OXM". :D
Out of the team, he tends to write the best reviews, though. So it should be a good read (even if there may be a large number of bad puns).
"Brown Aliens can spit acid from a distance."
???
Quote from: VEF214 on Feb 11, 2010, 06:42:53 PM
"Brown Aliens can spit acid from a distance."
???
Runner Aliens. The Alien 3 variant. Only in the singleplayer campaign, though, not in the MP.
Part 2 (http://www.computerandvideogames.com/article.php?id=234576) of the CVG interview is up now.
Quote from: VEF214 on Feb 11, 2010, 06:42:53 PM
"Brown Aliens can spit acid from a distance."
???
That struck me oddly too haha.
Quote from: Peteysodes on Feb 11, 2010, 07:17:38 PM
Quote from: VEF214 on Feb 11, 2010, 06:42:53 PM
"Brown Aliens can spit acid from a distance."
???
That struck me oddly too haha.
That got my attention aswell, I guess only in the campaign there are Im assuming "runner" aliens that spit acid. Cool lookin forward to it, wish we could see the spiting thing in action though.
QuoteEveryone?
I didn't hate the facehugger gameplay, but ultimately I thought it was wasted time in the SP Alien campaign. It was fun in multiplayer, but horribly imbalanced as well.
Personally, I don't think it's a bad thing that it's not included.
Alright so I was exaggerating when I said everyone, but It seemed like something that would have been included.
I'm rather shocked it wasn't.
QuoteI agree that somethings were put off due to being "lazy".. However, for Life Cycle that is a legitimate reason. That would take quite a bit of time and work... and in the long run, time and money that could have been spent on the core of the game. I would rather all the resources be spent on making the core as perfect as possible, as it will require less patching, which is good for everyone. I miss LC, but I can completely understand why it was left out.
I agree that the main focus should be on the overall balance, but even so...they still somehow missed how useless the flamethrower is and gave preds better melee ability than aliens. I dont know how they missed those things honestly, but I expect they plan to patch them. So I'm not going to argue about that.
Quotei give up :D
because a model is done and has some animations doesn`t mean a thing without a game to put them into.
what you`ve got there is a flickbook, NOT a game
I really dont understand your point.
They have it fully modeled and animated in the story. It has a walking and leaping animations.
Just add a death animation and a facehugging animation and there basically set. I know it would take some work, but I also know that if they really wanted to they could have done it.
Forgive me for expecting just a little more out of the game : P
I dont want to clutter this thread with this tho. I've made my point.
On the more recent topic it is nice to see some good reviews.
Can the OP update the review portion with the one from Game Informer (and if at all possible, keep tabs on any new reviews, which I assume we shall see throughout the weekend).
Thanks.
Gameinformer Magazine has given out the rating of a 5.75/10 :-\
First off I would like to say WTH!
I say this because of some of the items the reviewer lists off as negative:
1. "The Predator sequences put you behind the heat-visioned stare of a young hunter trying to prove himself to his clan. I had fun using the Predator's iconic arsenal, but the focus on stealth and limited melee combat made me want to hang up my dreads."
Last time I checked the predator was supposed to be stealthy...
and 2. for the sound review
"Listening to the aliens crawl through vents and jump out at you would be scary if your motion sensor wasn't bleating in your ear the whole time"
I thought the beeping of your impending doom was what made the game scary...
This is not to say that there are no legitimate criticisms, such as linear level design and a repetitive marine campaign but seriously the game has a lower rating and replay value then Dante's Inferno!
Quote from: BrotherAriman on Feb 11, 2010, 10:12:51 PM
Gameinformer Magazine has given out the rating of a 5.75/10 :-\
First off I would like to say WTH!
I say this because of some of the items the reviewer lists off as negative:
1. "The Predator sequences put you behind the heat-visioned stare of a young hunter trying to prove himself to his clan. I had fun using the Predator's iconic arsenal, but the focus on stealth and limited melee combat made me want to hang up my dreads."
Last time I checked the predator was supposed to be stealthy...
and 2. for the sound review
"Listening to the aliens crawl through vents and jump out at you would be scary if your motion sensor wasn't bleating in your ear the whole time"
I thought the beeping of your impending doom was what made the game scary...
This is not to say that there are no legitimate criticisms, such as linear level design and a repetitive marine campaign but seriously the game has a lower rating and replay value then Dante's Inferno!
Read what people before you have written. The whole forum has been talking about this for weeks.
Quote from: Giger_Incubator on Feb 11, 2010, 10:16:02 PM
Quote from: BrotherAriman on Feb 11, 2010, 10:12:51 PM
Gameinformer Magazine has given out the rating of a 5.75/10 :-\
First off I would like to say WTH!
I say this because of some of the items the reviewer lists off as negative:
1. "The Predator sequences put you behind the heat-visioned stare of a young hunter trying to prove himself to his clan. I had fun using the Predator's iconic arsenal, but the focus on stealth and limited melee combat made me want to hang up my dreads."
Last time I checked the predator was supposed to be stealthy...
and 2. for the sound review
"Listening to the aliens crawl through vents and jump out at you would be scary if your motion sensor wasn't bleating in your ear the whole time"
I thought the beeping of your impending doom was what made the game scary...
This is not to say that there are no legitimate criticisms, such as linear level design and a repetitive marine campaign but seriously the game has a lower rating and replay value then Dante's Inferno!
Read what people before you have written. The whole forum has been talking about this for weeks.
Sorry I just got that issue of GI yesterday.
Last Sega's guide here (http://blogs.sega.com/usa/2010/02/11/know-your-role-marine/).
Looks like we don't have to worry about the game getting mixed reviews, the game is getting some awesome ratings right now.
That OXM review was nice. They could NOT get off the Marine campaign's jock.
Quote from: Hellspawn28 on Feb 12, 2010, 07:01:18 AM
Looks like we don't have to worry about the game getting mixed reviews, the game is getting some awesome ratings right now.
8.5 from IGN UK and an 8 from OXM.
I'll take those.
Quote from: PRI. HUDSON on Feb 12, 2010, 08:02:56 AM
That OXM review was nice. They could NOT get off the Marine campaign's jock.
Their review was legitimate in general, although I don't necessarily see what the point of extensive narrative in the Alien campaign is. All it needs to do is justify killing. A lot.
I love that they mentioned the arena-style stealth battles against Marines. One Alien, taking out dozens of Marines without a scratch? Now
that's the ticket.
just one 9/10 would be so so good.
whens euro gamer out anyone know?
Quote from: LogansFolly on Feb 12, 2010, 08:14:04 AM
just one 9/10 would be so so good.
whens euro gamer out anyone know?
Just to be clear, it's not eurogamer who is giving that score. Also, as mentioned ans according to Sega of Europe, the embargos for online reviews such as Eurogamer lift on Monday Feb 15th.
Quote from: ikarop on Feb 12, 2010, 10:14:16 AM
Quote from: LogansFolly on Feb 12, 2010, 08:14:04 AM
just one 9/10 would be so so good.
whens euro gamer out anyone know?
Just to be clear, it's not eurogamer who is giving that score. Also, as mentioned ans according to Sega of Europe, the embargos for online reviews such as Eurogamer lift on Monday Jan 15th.
oh ok. do you know who it is?
or is it just a rumor?
Quote from: LogansFolly on Feb 12, 2010, 10:22:39 AM
Quote from: ikarop on Feb 12, 2010, 10:14:16 AM
Quote from: LogansFolly on Feb 12, 2010, 08:14:04 AM
just one 9/10 would be so so good.
whens euro gamer out anyone know?
Just to be clear, it's not eurogamer who is giving that score. Also, as mentioned ans according to Sega of Europe, the embargos for online reviews such as Eurogamer lift on Monday Feb 15th.
oh ok. do you know who it is?
or is it just a rumor?
Nope, idk and shouldn't be a rumor. Rebellion mentioned that some of the reviews go from 79% to 9/10. Also that SEGA commissioned a professional to review the game and gave it a 82%
Quote from: ikarop on Feb 12, 2010, 10:14:16 AM
Quote from: LogansFolly on Feb 12, 2010, 08:14:04 AM
just one 9/10 would be so so good.
whens euro gamer out anyone know?
Just to be clear, it's not eurogamer who is giving that score. Also, as mentioned ans according to Sega of Europe, the embargos for online reviews such as Eurogamer lift on Monday Jan 15th.
lol - You mean FEB 15th yeah ?
Quote from: Jobe on Feb 12, 2010, 10:44:09 AM
Quote from: ikarop on Feb 12, 2010, 10:14:16 AM
Quote from: LogansFolly on Feb 12, 2010, 08:14:04 AM
just one 9/10 would be so so good.
whens euro gamer out anyone know?
Just to be clear, it's not eurogamer who is giving that score. Also, as mentioned ans according to Sega of Europe, the embargos for online reviews such as Eurogamer lift on Monday Jan 15th.
lol - You mean FEB 15th yeah ?
Nope, the reviews arent allowed to go up until Jan 15th 2011. :P
Quote from: Jobe on Feb 12, 2010, 10:44:09 AM
Quote from: ikarop on Feb 12, 2010, 10:14:16 AM
Quote from: LogansFolly on Feb 12, 2010, 08:14:04 AM
just one 9/10 would be so so good.
whens euro gamer out anyone know?
Just to be clear, it's not eurogamer who is giving that score. Also, as mentioned ans according to Sega of Europe, the embargos for online reviews such as Eurogamer lift on Monday Jan 15th.
lol - You mean FEB 15th yeah ?
lol doh. Sorry for the typo.
Quote from: Dachande on Feb 12, 2010, 10:45:35 AM
Quote from: Jobe on Feb 12, 2010, 10:44:09 AM
Quote from: ikarop on Feb 12, 2010, 10:14:16 AM
Quote from: LogansFolly on Feb 12, 2010, 08:14:04 AM
just one 9/10 would be so so good.
whens euro gamer out anyone know?
Just to be clear, it's not eurogamer who is giving that score. Also, as mentioned ans according to Sega of Europe, the embargos for online reviews such as Eurogamer lift on Monday Jan 15th.
lol - You mean FEB 15th yeah ?
Nope, the reviews arent allowed to go up until Jan 15th 2011. :P
lol, Just as I thought, so close but yet so far away.... ;D
Short review at Kuhvet.com. (http://www.kuhvet.com/2010/02/12/aliens-vs-predator-review/) 6.5/10 (doesn't look very official tho)
QuoteNo there's no sniper rifle, sorry Halo fans.
Ok, disregard the Kuhvet "review",
Review from techdigest.tv (http://www.techdigest.tv/2010/02/aliens_vs_preda.html). 4/5 (Xbox 360)
QuoteAvP will carve a nice little niche in your gaming heart... and then probably burst out of your chest and eat your family. Excellent.
D:
QuoteNo there's no sniper rifle, sorry Halo fans.
??? Did he play the first SP level only, or something?
Quote...with the classic rack up the kills death match being the best.
He probably only played death match. It's horrible! >:(
He probably went into this thinking this was going to be another crappy game based on a movie. :(
Well, now that's off my chest, I'ma grab some cookies! :P
Quote from: ikarop on Feb 12, 2010, 08:29:38 PM
Review from techdigest.tv (http://www.techdigest.tv/2010/02/aliens_vs_preda.html). 4/5 (Xbox 360)
Like the review, reiterates what's been said before, but does so in less than 2 pages. Smoothly done.
Quote from: Corporal Hicks on Feb 11, 2010, 06:04:02 PM
http://saturn.afmu.com/~virtec20/oxmukavp1.jpg
http://saturn.afmu.com/~virtec20/oxmukavp2.jpg
http://saturn.afmu.com/~virtec20/oxmukavp3.jpg
http://saturn.afmu.com/~virtec20/oxmukavp4.jpg
OXM Review.
QuoteThe Alien is by far the weakest of the three, simply because its difficult to fashion a narrative around what is essentially an oversized, mindless insect."
(https://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi228.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fee19%2FSpaghetti_010%2FGOD_DAMNIT.jpg&hash=fcecf873499d78db1aff46e8ec1f98ef0c09e4c2)
Well I'm sure the game tried very hard to prevent people from getting that impression about Aliens but some people just don't listen.
Cant say I've heard of Khuvet before.
Quote from: Drewid on Feb 12, 2010, 10:35:06 PM
Cant say I've heard of Khuvet before.
Me neither.
Same. ;)
QuoteThe Alien is by far the weakest of the three, simply because its difficult to fashion a narrative around what is essentially oversized, mindless insect."
that`s the same reason we never made that Desperate Housewives game.
Hahahaha... :P
Quote from: S.Y.L on Feb 13, 2010, 01:03:53 AM
QuoteThe Alien is by far the weakest of the three, simply because its difficult to fashion a narrative around what is essentially oversized, mindless insect."
that`s the same reason we never made that Desperate Housewives game.
(https://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Ftalk.livedaily.com%2Fimages%2Fld%2Fsmilies%2Froll.gif&hash=e1a2cecc93a55de86ec029e97dd5072135a90240)
Quote from: S.Y.L on Feb 13, 2010, 01:03:53 AM
QuoteThe Alien is by far the weakest of the three, simply because its difficult to fashion a narrative around what is essentially oversized, mindless insect."
that`s the same reason we never made that Desperate Housewives game.
;D ;D ;D
That Game Informer one really sticks out. All those other reviews have 5/5 or an 8.- to an 8.5, yet that one has a stupid 5.25 one or somthing. Looks dumb and the reviewer should be shot.
Received my subscription copy of April's PC Zone (I think it's out in stores from the 16th or 17th of Feb). They gave it 82%, but that very much jarrs with the review because they spend nearly all the review praising it, and finish up by saying that it's incredibly fun, a perfect recreation of the films, and a significant improvement on the previous games.
The only flaws they pointed out were the campaigns' short length (apparently you can run through the Marine campaign in 4hrs and the Alien in 2hrs... if the Pred's campaign is 3hrs then that makes it about the same overall length as Half-Life) and oldschool flavour (which they eventually decided suits AvP perfectly, so I have no idea why they scored it so low).
In the same issue they scored Mass Effect 2 93%, Bioshock 2 92% and STALKER: Call of Pripyat 80%.
Quote from: QueenofDeath on Feb 13, 2010, 10:19:27 PM
That Game Informer one really sticks out. All those other reviews have 5/5 or an 8.- to an 8.5, yet that one has a stupid 5.25 one or somthing. Looks dumb and the reviewer should be shot.
It's perfectly normal to have positive and negative reviews they can't all be the same. They can't all like the game and it's not a big deal.
Quote from: Brother on Feb 13, 2010, 10:51:37 PM
It's perfectly normal to have positive and negative reviews they can't all be the same. They can't all like the game and it's not a big deal.
Why don't them all like it? WHY?!?!?!? It IS big deal!!!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GNhp4ZqNmTQ
;D ;D ;D
Lawlz
Quote from: Vertigo on Feb 13, 2010, 10:46:52 PM
apparently you can run through the Marine campaign in 4hrs and the Alien in 2hrs... if the Pred's campaign is 3hrs
:( Guess I gotta' take my time then.
Quote from: Vertigo on Feb 13, 2010, 10:46:52 PM
Mass Effect 2 93%
WOOOO!!! Sorry... Mass Effect lover over here. :P
Quote from: TJ Doc on Feb 13, 2010, 11:08:33 PM
Quote from: Vertigo on Feb 13, 2010, 10:46:52 PM
Mass Effect 2 93%
WOOOO!!! Sorry... Mass Effect lover over here. :P
Yeah, no question Mass Effect 2 deserves the praise, awesome game. Not so sure about Bioshock 2 though if it's anything like the first one.
BioShock 2 is a 100% game code copy paste from BioShock 1, the only thing different is story.
Quote from: safetyman on Feb 14, 2010, 12:59:08 AM
BioShock 2 is a 100% game code copy paste from BioShock 1, the only thing different is story.
I wouldn't go that far, it does some interesting things and it is actually far better than I expected it to be.
That said, I am almost finished with it and I'm glad I rented it.
Well I finally got my Game Informer in the mail the other day, and immediately went to read the review.
Honestly, the first thing that surprised me was the lack of actual depth. I mean I find it a bit ridiculous to give one of the more anticipated games of the year LESS THAN A PAGE for a full review. I mean it was literally a handful of small paragraphs.
Second, it's clear the reviewer had no real knowledge of the source material, whether it be from film, comic, or even the original AvP...which is a shame, because these franchises have so much history and depth to them.
Third, I also agree that his multiplayer portion of the review was an incredible joke. Considering how many different modes this game boasts, this guy decides to write about three sentences to sum up his multiplayer review.
Personally, I usually agree with a majority of GI's reviews, but this single one has turned me off from their opinions on titles.
Quote from: safetyman on Feb 14, 2010, 12:59:08 AM
BioShock 2 is a 100% game code copy paste from BioShock 1, the only thing different is story.
Aren't most sequels? Stick with the same formula that works...Resident Evil 4 and 5 have the same mechanics, controls etc.
Except Bioshock 1 sucks = Bioshock 2 sucks.
Haha. :D
That friend, is a matter of opinion . ;)
Quote from: safetyman on Feb 14, 2010, 05:06:06 AM
Except Bioshock 1 sucks = Bioshock 2 sucks.
lol my friends love the game but i don't like it all too much either, i think its kinda stupid. :D
I heard Bioshock 2's story actually manages to be equal/surpass it a bit on an intellectual level. Which is half the point of bioshock the other point being the gameplay which is also very much improved. Anyways I guessed AVP would get great reviews (but not perfect) so im glad people are taking the time to discover it's depth and not ragequit/suck like that douche from gameinformer. I will only ever steal gameinformers now for their exclusives then actually buy one haha. I think the sequel of AVP should greatly surpass this one to the point of 10 scores. (There I go thinkin of the sequel already)
Are there reviews released for any other platform than Xbox 360 yet?
As a PC player I would very much like to hear some opinions about the PC version of the game. Or is this yet again a classic modern gaming world case where Microsoft has made a several million dollar deal with some one, like SEGA for example, to ensure that all of the early reviews will exclusively be for Xbox 360?
Quote from: MikkoM on Feb 14, 2010, 03:01:42 PM
Are there reviews released for any other platform than Xbox 360 yet?
As a PC player I would very much like to hear some opinions about the PC version of the game. Or is this yet again a classic modern gaming world case where Microsoft has made a several million dollar deal with some one, like SEGA for example, to ensure that all of the early reviews will exclusively be for Xbox 360?
PCZONE gave it 82% and were very positive about it.
Quote from: First Blood on Feb 14, 2010, 05:58:41 AM
That friend, is a matter of opinion . ;)
That's true.
In my opinion, Adopting Half-Life 2's fixation with physics, or rather, failing to do it correctly, doesn't make for a good game when the regular guns all feel like peashooters, and there are a million enemies in the game that you need to kill.
QuoteResident Evil 4 and 5 have the same mechanics, controls etc.
Which is not a bad thing since why fix something that is not broken since I like RE5 better then I did with RE4 in my opinon. Gamestop review should be up soon in a few days and I'm pretty sure they will like the game.
Quote from: Hellspawn28 on Feb 14, 2010, 09:29:17 PM
QuoteResident Evil 4 and 5 have the same mechanics, controls etc.
Which is not a bad thing since why fix something that is not broken since I like RE5 better then I did with RE4 in my opinon. Gamestop review should be up soon in a few days and I'm pretty sure they will like the game.
I think you mean Gamespot?
QuoteGamestop review should be up soon in a few days and I'm pretty sure they will like the game.
they might but there giving bad scores out now like halo wars, fear 2 and dantes inferno all kickass games and there in the 6.0 or 7.0 if anything wait for a game-trailers one they go in depth in there reviews,
I disagree. Dantes inferno deserved that six. It takes ideas and inspiration from what I believe to be one of the most amazing epics of all time and then changes ridiculous amounts of content(I understand changing the direction so Dante fights but they couldve kept some of the circles of hell the way the were instead of putting in penis's and tits for "shock value". Oh and its a poor mans GOW3. At least some games that use other games mechanics(Like Darksiders taking GOW, Zelda, and Air..that airplane game)use it creatively and add something new. Gamespot is hard but usually...usually...honest with their reviews. Keep in mind they gave AVP an...8 I believe and AVP2 a 8.7. In fact Gamespot is the website with the least BS reviews but alas all websites have some. Gametrailers is good though most of the time, but your forgetting they said the AVP demo had brutal, sloppy, gameplay: http://www.gametrailers.com/game/aliens-vs-predator/10843?show=Gameplay#Content (http://www.gametrailers.com/game/aliens-vs-predator/10843?show=Gameplay#Content)
Is that Game Informer score for real!?!? That's rediculous! (In a bad way)
Quote from: afrocat on Feb 15, 2010, 06:30:49 AM
I disagree. Dantes inferno deserved that six. It takes ideas and inspiration from what I believe to be one of the most amazing epics of all time and then changes ridiculous amounts of content(I understand changing the direction so Dante fights but they couldve kept some of the circles of hell the way the were instead of putting in penis's and tits for "shock value". Oh and its a poor mans GOW3. At least some games that use other games mechanics(Like Darksiders taking GOW, Zelda, and Air..that airplane game)use it creatively and add something new. Gamespot is hard but usually...usually...honest with their reviews. Keep in mind they gave AVP an...8 I believe and AVP2 a 8.7. In fact Gamespot is the website with the least BS reviews but alas all websites have some. Gametrailers is good though most of the time, but your forgetting they said the AVP demo had brutal, sloppy, gameplay: http://www.gametrailers.com/game/aliens-vs-predator/10843?show=Gameplay#Content (http://www.gametrailers.com/game/aliens-vs-predator/10843?show=Gameplay#Content)
I don't think Gametrailers were saying the gameplay was bad, its more likely the 'brutal and sloppy' refer to the gore rather than the quality of the gameplay.
Ha well you could be right but I mostly assumed that because the guy playing...sucks ;D ahaha
should be a few out today right? reviews i mean? Don't really care what the scores are because this game is great but i need some thing to read while at work......
My bets are
gamespot 8
gametrailers 7.5 ish
destrtoid 7-8.5 depending on who revirews it!!
angry joe 9
hmm nah i think gamespot will give it 8.5 and gametrailers will be just as high. Idk about destructoid.
Quote from: afrocat on Feb 15, 2010, 09:21:03 AM
hmm nah i think gamespot will give it 8.5 and gametrailers will be just as high. Idk about destructoid.
Gamespot are harsh with reviews i think normally..... if it does get an 8.5 then wowowow
I lost respect for gamespot long ago, their reviews sucks theese days i stick with ign they are still the best.
Another interview at CraveOnline (added on the 1st page). Also this promo thingy, which mmm is cool:
http://staging.microsites.craveonline.com/AVPGame/deploy/
They're all over the pace man! I'ts D-DAY man it's D-DAY!!
I am most like the Predator.
That interview is weird it said you can play as a hugger and eat your way out of a marine as a burster is it outdated or something?
Nope, he didn't say you can play as the facehugger or the chestbuster. He said the lifecycle is fully represented on the single player, which is entirely true. You can get facehugged, harvest people, etc...
Quote from: ikarop on Feb 15, 2010, 02:34:32 PM
Nope, he didn't say you can play as the facehugger or the chestbuster. He said the lifecycle is fully represented on the single player, which is entirely true. You can get facehugged, harvest people, etc...
oh ! I read it in the wrong context.
ok 3pm gmt + 0 keep an eye out for reviews it's time.......................!!
Let's see if the media are lazy or not. Weapons loaded :P.
Quote from: ikarop on Feb 15, 2010, 02:57:41 PM
Let's see if the media are lazy or not. Weapons loaded :P.
Gametrailers is the one for me.... other than gta i like there reviews!!!
F***ng unnofficial reviews. Just spoiled myself, again.
First official review from today is in:
Bit-Tech 7/10: http://www.bit-tech.net/gaming/pc/2010/02/15/aliens-vs-predator-review-video/1?utm_source=feedburner
How do you know it is review day ? also what was so bad about the gta review from gametrailers ?
^I was told it was today from 3 PM.
Another one at Polymania (http://translate.googleusercontent.com/translate_c?hl=es&ie=UTF-8&sl=auto&tl=en&u=http://polygamia.pl/Polygamia/1,104392,7559962,Recenzja__Aliens_vs_Predator.html&prev=_t&rurl=translate.google.es&twu=1&usg=ALkJrhiDYi9QSHOP-PodaB5KBkJ8j8Tj0A), not sure about the score. I think it's a 3+/5.
Is the gametrailers review today ? I like there reviews and i won't them to like this game.
The embargo was today, it's up them from now.
Quote from: Predator:o:95 on Feb 15, 2010, 03:05:55 PM
How do you know it is review day ? also i what was so bad about gta review from gametrailers ?
Ikarop knows his stuff and the embargo was lifted today.
GAmetrailers praised the multiplayer on gta which was utter gash IMO. (I didn't think the game was all that at ALL varstly over rated.)
GTA's multiplayer was utter vagina?
Another one at GameReactor (http://www.gamereactor.eu/reviews/2822/Aliens+vs.+Predator/) 6/10.
eeew average score there.
Quote from: TJ Doc on Feb 15, 2010, 03:31:19 PM
GTA's multiplayer was utter vagina?
Totall and utter vag yes.... a bit like the vagina in your picture
Everyeye.it (http://translate.google.es/translate?js=y&prev=_t&hl=es&ie=UTF-8&layout=1&eotf=1&u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.everyeye.it%2Fpc%2Farticoli%2Faliens-vs-predator_recensione_11006%3Fpagina%3D2&sl=auto&tl=en) 7.5/10
gamereactor doesn't even have any credibility or popularity. I never visit them.
Quote from: LogansFolly on Feb 15, 2010, 03:36:04 PM
Quote from: TJ Doc on Feb 15, 2010, 03:31:19 PM
GTA's multiplayer was utter vagina?
Totall and utter vag yes.... a bit like the vagina in your picture
Good god! What? Where?
... Oh, there. :D
Jeez, Game.nl (http://translate.google.es/translate?js=y&prev=_t&hl=es&ie=UTF-8&layout=1&eotf=1&u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.gamez.nl%2Ffps%2F2858-aliens-vs--predator%2Freview%2F29333-aliens-vs--predator.html&sl=auto&tl=en) 86/100
Quote from: ikarop on Feb 15, 2010, 03:31:55 PM
Another one at GameReactor (http://www.gamereactor.eu/reviews/2822/Aliens+vs.+Predator/) 6/10.
The things the reviewer complained about doesn't bother me at all like controls or graphics. The only reall bad point they made was level design.
Quote from: Predator:o:95 on Feb 15, 2010, 03:40:07 PM
Quote from: ikarop on Feb 15, 2010, 03:31:55 PM
Another one at GameReactor (http://www.gamereactor.eu/reviews/2822/Aliens+vs.+Predator/) 6/10.
The things the reviewer complained about doesn't bother me at all like controls or graphics. The only reall bad point they made was level design.
Agreed. I think the controls are fine and i think the graphs are great also.
Quote from: ikarop on Feb 15, 2010, 03:38:16 PM
Jeez, Game.nl (http://translate.google.es/translate?js=y&prev=_t&hl=es&ie=UTF-8&layout=1&eotf=1&u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.gamez.nl%2Ffps%2F2858-aliens-vs--predator%2Freview%2F29333-aliens-vs--predator.html&sl=auto&tl=en) 86/100
Good review.... Lists both good and bad points but still sais the game is worthwile.
:)
Games Tiscali (Czech) Review (http://games.tiscali.cz/reviews/aliens-vs-predator-exkluzivni-recenze/) 7-
For non Czech speaking:
Not so good graphics (even though reviewer stated that the review version does not have DX11)
Single player is mediocre - Marine campain is best, Aliens is short, Predators too easy
Very good soundtrack
Could not test Multiplayer
Great looks of the Alien and Predator models
Jeuxactu.com (http://translate.google.es/translate?js=y&prev=_t&hl=es&ie=UTF-8&layout=1&eotf=1&u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.jeuxactu.com%2Farticle-42984-aliens-vs-predator.html&sl=auto&tl=en) 14/20 (SP)
(https://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fcdn2.knowyourmeme.com%2Fi%2F157%2Foriginal%2Flolwutsp3.jpg&hash=a9a7d2f60d819ebf5025c47e57fb9ac28c4a3965)
14/20 looks better as 7/10.
Indeed hahaha, just quoting the sites.
Quote from: TJ Doc on Feb 15, 2010, 03:51:55 PM
http://cdn2.knowyourmeme.com/i/157/original/lolwutsp3.jpg
;D :D ;D
Gram.pl (http://translate.google.es/translate?hl=es&sl=auto&tl=en&u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.gram.pl%2Fart_9wfiHe7_Aliens_vs_Predator_recenzja_strona_1.html) 4/6
Quote from: ikarop on Feb 15, 2010, 03:57:14 PM
Gram.pl (http://translate.google.es/translate?hl=es&sl=auto&tl=en&u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.gram.pl%2Fart_9wfiHe7_Aliens_vs_Predator_recenzja_strona_1.html) 4/6
4/6
lol?
lmao what is with these weird rating systems? I understand sites want to differentiate themselves..but wtf?
Quote from: Jumbik on Feb 15, 2010, 03:49:15 PM
Games Tiscali (Czech) Review (http://games.tiscali.cz/reviews/aliens-vs-predator-exkluzivni-recenze/) 7-
For non Czech speaking:
Not so good graphics (even though reviewer stated that the review version does not have DX11)
WTF. some people don't even know what looks good anymore. It doesn't even need DX11 to see how beautiful it is.
Quote from: VEF214 on Feb 15, 2010, 03:57:49 PM
Quote from: ikarop on Feb 15, 2010, 03:57:14 PM
Gram.pl (http://translate.google.es/translate?hl=es&sl=auto&tl=en&u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.gram.pl%2Fart_9wfiHe7_Aliens_vs_Predator_recenzja_strona_1.html) 4/6
4/6
lol?
75% yea? Blimey what a strange way to do a review.... come on gametrailers what you sayin?
A quick average at this point is 76% thats takin the first 16 reviews.
Is gametrailers one even coming today ? The reviews coming out now seem to be more European and stuff
Quote from: Predator:o:95 on Feb 15, 2010, 04:06:16 PM
Is gametrailers one even coming today ? The reviews coming out now seem to be more European and stuff
i think later today as it's an american site and the game is out there tomorrow!!!
the reviews that give it less than 90% are totally biased. even Dead Space got better scores than this, and it didn't even have half as much as this game delivers.
GamingXP.com (http://translate.google.es/translate?js=y&prev=_t&hl=es&ie=UTF-8&layout=1&eotf=1&u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.gamingxp.com%2Fbericht-3432-ps3-page6-aliens_vs._predator.htm&sl=auto&tl=en) 84%
Quote from: LogansFolly on Feb 15, 2010, 04:08:36 PM
Quote from: Predator:o:95 on Feb 15, 2010, 04:06:16 PM
Is gametrailers one even coming today ? The reviews coming out now seem to be more European and stuff
i think later today as it's an american site and the game is out there tomorrow!!!
Its more than likely going to be up by tomorrow.
http://pclab.pl/art40532.html
Quote from: dude63 on Feb 15, 2010, 04:10:08 PM
Quote from: LogansFolly on Feb 15, 2010, 04:08:36 PM
Quote from: Predator:o:95 on Feb 15, 2010, 04:06:16 PM
Is gametrailers one even coming today ? The reviews coming out now seem to be more European and stuff
i think later today as it's an american site and the game is out there tomorrow!!!
Its more than likely going to be up by tomorrow.
I'm not so happy about there reviews recently. Uncharted2 got a 9.1 but then mw2 got 9.3 and they complained about uncharted 2 being a bit samey compared to the first one even though new co op and mp. but mw2 didn't even though it only added 2 player co-op so they can be a bit iffy there reviews
http://translate.google.es/translate?js=y&prev=_t&hl=es&ie=UTF-8&layout=1&eotf=1&u=http://www.gamingxp.com/bericht-3432-ps3-page6-aliens_vs._predator.htm&sl=auto&tl=en (http://translate.google.es/translate?js=y&prev=_t&hl=es&ie=UTF-8&layout=1&eotf=1&u=http://www.gamingxp.com/bericht-3432-ps3-page6-aliens_vs._predator.htm&sl=auto&tl=en) i love there review
Quote from: ikarop on Feb 15, 2010, 04:09:57 PM
GamingXP.com (http://translate.google.es/translate?js=y&prev=_t&hl=es&ie=UTF-8&layout=1&eotf=1&u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.gamingxp.com%2Fbericht-3432-ps3-page6-aliens_vs._predator.htm&sl=auto&tl=en) 84%
Now thats a review... old skool!!!!!!!
what's crazy is that these sources rush to review the game without first playing the multiplayer as well.
because really, that's like reviewing Left 4 Dead without playing its finalized multiplayer modes.
That's why as stupid as gamespot reviews can be, sometimes they don't finalize their review until after release and when they played everything the game contains.
It's like they really base the meat of their review on the campaign, when real replay value is based on the multiplayer, the lifeblood of shooters.
Quote from: LogansFolly on Feb 15, 2010, 04:25:44 PM
Quote from: ikarop on Feb 15, 2010, 04:09:57 PM
GamingXP.com (http://translate.google.es/translate?js=y&prev=_t&hl=es&ie=UTF-8&layout=1&eotf=1&u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.gamingxp.com%2Fbericht-3432-ps3-page6-aliens_vs._predator.htm&sl=auto&tl=en) 84%
Now thats a review... old skool!!!!!!!
yer but what does he mean by original speaker in the pro section
Quote from: Predator:o:95 on Feb 15, 2010, 04:29:00 PM
Quote from: LogansFolly on Feb 15, 2010, 04:25:44 PM
Quote from: ikarop on Feb 15, 2010, 04:09:57 PM
GamingXP.com (http://translate.google.es/translate?js=y&prev=_t&hl=es&ie=UTF-8&layout=1&eotf=1&u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.gamingxp.com%2Fbericht-3432-ps3-page6-aliens_vs._predator.htm&sl=auto&tl=en) 84%
Now thats a review... old skool!!!!!!!
yer but what does he mean by original speaker in the pro section
I can only assume 'bishop' talking over the top. And the sounds in general.
Hell the pulse riffle is woth the admission alone!!!
Quote from: yaji on Feb 15, 2010, 04:13:06 PM
http://pclab.pl/art40532.html
What's the score please?
Quote from: ikarop on Feb 15, 2010, 04:32:16 PM
Quote from: yaji on Feb 15, 2010, 04:13:06 PM
http://pclab.pl/art40532.html
What's the score please?
Great screen shot's in that review. Cr@p knows what the score is tho!?!?!?
Gamespot video Review (http://www.gamespot.com/ps3/action/aliensvspredatorworkingtitle/video/6250849/aliens-vs-predator-video-review) 5.5/10
I have no problem at all maneuvering as the Alien.
Same here, even with the PS3 control, I'm zipping all over the place.
ouuch im watching it now shame i thought they'd give a 8 like all the other big sites.
EDIT: This game is clearly love it or hate it because the either love it with a few bad points (mainly campaigns)
or you can hate it and only like trophy kills or mulitiplayer. You obviously have to be a fan of the franchise other wise you won't want to see past the little problems you would just put the game down.
IT IS LIKE MARMITE!
Still...5.5 is very dissapointing.
They really hated it. It shows. I was so dissapointed when I saw the score.
Gamespot: 5.5/10 (mediocre)
What I wonder is why everybody else is giving it an 8 and above. Gamespot really got a reputation for themselves. They like to be the ''assholes'', just to gain some credibility. IGN gave this game a 8,5 ? We'll give it a 7.5. They do that a lot.
They did bring up some good points, the alien movement thing is stupid. You have an auto function for that you know? Also, all it really requires is a little practice.
Quote from: HF on Feb 15, 2010, 05:24:15 PM
They really hated it. It shows. I was so disappointed when I saw the score.
Gamespot: 5.5/10 (mediocre)
What I wonder is why everybody else is giving it an 8 and above. Gamespot really got a reputation for themselves. They like to be the ''assholes'', just to gain some credibility. IGN gave this game a 8,5 ? We'll give it a 7.5. They do that a lot.
They did bring up some good points though. And from what I've heard and read, AVP is far from beign worth a 9.
It is a love it or hate it franchise. So naturally it is a love it or hate it game. IMO but i think they didn't even look at options to change the alien settings
Also lol at the review who only had 3 cons and one was that the audio diarys dont have subtitles it shows that it is love it or hate it :) that guy is coo.
I like the game!
I haven't had any real problems with it at all.
Idk what this guy is smoking.
Wow talk about a mixed bag of reviews, still getting it though. :)
Quote from: HF on Feb 15, 2010, 05:24:15 PM
They really hated it. It shows. I was so dissapointed when I saw the score.
Gamespot: 5.5/10 (mediocre)
What I wonder is why everybody else is giving it an 8 and above. Gamespot really got a reputation for themselves. They like to be the ''assholes'', just to gain some credibility. IGN gave this game a 8,5 ? We'll give it a 7.5. They do that a lot.
They did bring up some good points, the alien movement thing is stupid. You have an auto function for that you know? Also, all it really recquires is a little practice.
A nice theory for sure, just appears the took Game Informer as their base level rather than IGN ???
There appears to be a theme emerging here though: American reviews don't like it, European ones do.
Quote from: ajm on Feb 15, 2010, 05:43:28 PM
Quote from: HF on Feb 15, 2010, 05:24:15 PM
They really hated it. It shows. I was so dissapointed when I saw the score.
Gamespot: 5.5/10 (mediocre)
What I wonder is why everybody else is giving it an 8 and above. Gamespot really got a reputation for themselves. They like to be the ''assholes'', just to gain some credibility. IGN gave this game a 8,5 ? We'll give it a 7.5. They do that a lot.
They did bring up some good points, the alien movement thing is stupid. You have an auto function for that you know? Also, all it really recquires is a little practice.
A nice theory for sure, just appears the took Game Informer as their base level rather than IGN ???
There appears to be a theme emerging here though: American reviews don't like it, European ones do.
Well to make you feel better.
I'm an american and i like it. :D
i like the bad point
QuotePoor level design
......
Quote from: Aeus on Feb 15, 2010, 05:23:59 PM
Still...5.5 is very dissapointing.
Yeah. It made me eat a creme egg. :-[
Quote from: TJ Doc on Feb 15, 2010, 05:53:38 PM
Quote from: Aeus on Feb 15, 2010, 05:23:59 PM
Still...5.5 is very dissapointing.
Yeah. It made me eat a creme egg. :-[
Is that how you eat yours? When you read a bad review?
That's a new one. :D
I don't know, hows does bad controls and poor level design = a 5/10. I can understand his complaint of levels being recycled but he constantly harps how bad everything controls. I didn't have any problem with the demo controls. And every review keeps knocking the graphics. This game looks pretty damn good to me.
And the gamespot video review is filled with spoilers including boss encounters, so don't watch it if you want to stay spoil free.
Gamereactor, the largest Swedish gaming site/magazine gave it a 6/10 with pros being a fun predator campaign and survivor mode and occasionally creepy mood. Cons where weak graphics, uninspired level design and crappy controls...
http://www.gamereactor.se/recensioner/21137/Aliens+vs+Predator/
I think the reviewers couldn't grasp the controls in under one minute so they deemed them unsatisfactory.
Quote from: Rated-rsuperstar on Feb 15, 2010, 05:57:25 PM
I don't know, hows does bad controls and poor level design = a 5/10. I can understand his complaint of levels being recycled but he constantly harps how bad everything controls. I didn't have any problem with the demo controls. And every review keeps knocking the graphics. This game looks pretty damn good to me.
And the gamespot video review is filled with spoilers including boss encounters, so don't watch it if you want to stay spoil free.
It doesn't control anything like MW2 or Halo.....that's what most peoples problem with the controls seem to be....
Didn't take me long to get to grips with the controls, and that was from the demo; there wasn't even a tutorial.
Guess some reviewers are just bad at games.
Quote from: Darth Dude on Feb 15, 2010, 05:44:51 PM
Well to make you feel better.
I'm an american and i like it. :D
Cool, glad we didn't make a game unplayable by an entire continent :)
Quote from: ajm on Feb 15, 2010, 05:43:28 PM
A nice theory for sure, just appears the took Game Informer as their base level rather than IGN ???
There appears to be a theme emerging here though: American reviews don't like it, European ones do.
Its not really a theory per say, but its known as a fact. Gamespot are really stiff on reviews. They like to point out every flaws that a game has. They often agree with other sites, giving a similar score. But they also like to take in consideration things that other reviewers simply saw as a minor problem, or not a problem at all. Just look at the alien controls, they never mentionned the auto transition function, that really helps when you start with the alien.
Also with the predator jump thing. Why is it so much of a problem? Yeah the game is holding your hand and not giving you much freedom. Its fine to mention that, but why mention the predator jump being ''useless'' more often than not. If you're surrounded by aliens, jumping away, even if its only on a random rock, might help you greatly. It does in the demo, so why not in the game...
Those are just some examples of what they do. And they deduct alot of points from the final score on shit like that.
The alien campaing is way too short and is the weakest of the 3. That's a good point that is worth mentionning and being dissapointed of. The predator jump ain't one. But they took a big 10 seconds to complain about it.
I knew that they would do something like this. Why I'm so concerned about THIS review, is because Gamespot is the main gaming site where players go for reviews. IGN would also be on top of the list. They are the most trusted reviewers on the web.
I would not trust Gamespot, you remember they fired one of their most respected reviewers for giving a game a bad review, I think its more who's money is in their pocket like GameInformer. If there is any site I'll be dissapointed in if AVP gets a low review, its GameTrailers, I usually trust them the most.
Quote from: ajm on Feb 15, 2010, 06:00:50 PM
Quote from: Darth Dude on Feb 15, 2010, 05:44:51 PM
Well to make you feel better.
I'm an american and i like it. :D
Cool, glad we didn't make a game unplayable by an entire continent :)
Another American here who loves what Ive seen and played, I'll be picking it up on both 360 and PS3. Some critics are just too harsh these days.
this guys burn me up. I just don't the see the problem they mentioned really. To me controling everything seemed fine.
Fragzone - Swedish site gave it 2 out of 5
http://www.fz.se/artiklar/20100215/aliens-vs-predator/?page=2 (http://www.fz.se/artiklar/20100215/aliens-vs-predator/?page=2)
Pro's
3 Campaigns
Promising mp
Con's
Short campaigns
Repetitive
Old fashioned
QuoteSome critics are just too harsh these days.
Their only harsh if your game isn't considered a triple A product. I thought GTA4 and Modern Warfare 2 were average games, yet the mainstream press would never say anything bad about those games.
QuotePro's
3 Campaigns
Con's
Short campaigns
These two contradict each other. When you add the campaigns up, it's still longer then any other recent fps.
what i want to know is if rebellion are angry with the 3 bad reviews that are going out of there way to be mean ? i would be furious. By the way i would give the demo itself a 9/10 i liked it so much i would of paid for the demo.
Quote from: Marty27 on Feb 15, 2010, 06:05:09 PM
Fragzone - Swedish site gave it 2 out of 5
http://www.fz.se/artiklar/20100215/aliens-vs-predator/?page=2 (http://www.fz.se/artiklar/20100215/aliens-vs-predator/?page=2)
Pro's
3 Campaigns
Promising mp
Con's
Short campaigns
Repetitive
Old fashioned
I hate how people consider old school FPS games bad these days, some of us still love the Quake III style FPS and miss it. I dont want every FPS game to be Halo or Call of Duty.
Quote from: RidgeTop on Feb 15, 2010, 06:07:34 PM
Quote from: Marty27 on Feb 15, 2010, 06:05:09 PM
Fragzone - Swedish site gave it 2 out of 5
http://www.fz.se/artiklar/20100215/aliens-vs-predator/?page=2 (http://www.fz.se/artiklar/20100215/aliens-vs-predator/?page=2)
Pro's
3 Campaigns
Promising mp
Con's
Short campaigns
Repetitive
Old fashioned
I hate how people consider old school FPS games bad these days, some of us still love the Quake III style FPS and miss it. I dont want every FPS game to be Halo or Call of Duty.
QFT
I love the old school feel Refinery has.
Heh. You know, it's funny since the main reason I'm actually buying this is
because it's old-school! In fact this quote from the IGN review convinced me that I will love this game -
QuoteWhen the time finally comes to pull the trigger, however, Aliens vs. Predator reveals itself to be solid if unspectacular in this department, the basic shooting missing out on many of the advancements made in the genre in the past few years.
A lack of iron-sights or crouch mode, the inclusion of boss battles across all three campaigns and a frame-rate that's not as generous as most other games give Alien vs. Predator a distinctively old school flavour. Conversely this does work in the game's favour – combine the vintage mechanics with the iconic arsenal and you've got a game that's full of rollicking action, the unabashed nature of which captures perfectly the spirit of the films that it's inspired by.
grrr....
Makes me want to go kill some aliens.....
These Devs worked hard i can tell, they don't deserve to have there work by trashed like this.
Yeah, old school games are awesome. I don't understand why that's used negatively. If anything, the game being old school will be refreshing in this age of copy and paste games.
wow gamespot is trolling the gaming industry now. as much as I hate bribes, AVP deserves better scores and praise from them, even if Sega convinced them to treat AVP as the new best thing since whatever shooter they overrated these days (MW2, etc.) I think gamespot is in Infinity Ward's pocket. They give their games good scores, but they do no justice to AVP.
I'm smart enough to not depend on these worthless sources for an opinion, but it's a fact there are the masses out there that decide to play a game or not based on the scores they hand out. they are brainwashed into believing a low score always = a bad game.
maybe if AVP sells very well, that could at least slap these dumb ass critics into realizing their review is pointless aside from their paycheck.
I bet you all the sites that have reviewed avp will have given modern warfare 2 a 9.something out of 10 you can tell by the way they are marking down avp for the things that they do differently from all other mainstream games which i think go in avps favour compared to other games.
Quote from: Rated-rsuperstar on Feb 15, 2010, 06:07:14 PM
Their only harsh if your game isn't considered a triple A product. I thought GTA4 and Modern Warfare 2 were average games, yet the mainstream press would never say anything bad about those games.
This, this, and this.
Everyone creams their pants over MW2 and GTA...for some reason. GTA4 got 10's across the map, I've played way better games then that. MW2 is this phenomenon for reasons I don't understand.
So many people complain about not having iron sights...
Halo doesn't have iron sights, yet everyone loves that (so do I).
Quote from: HF on Feb 15, 2010, 05:24:15 PM
They really hated it. It shows. I was so dissapointed when I saw the score.
Gamespot: 5.5/10 (mediocre)
What I wonder is why everybody else is giving it an 8 and above. Gamespot really got a reputation for themselves. They like to be the ''assholes'', just to gain some credibility. IGN gave this game a 8,5 ? We'll give it a 7.5. They do that a lot.
They did bring up some good points, the alien movement thing is stupid. You have an auto function for that you know? Also, all it really requires is a little practice.
Exactly, I was utterly surprised they did put GI's review on their "Critic Score" even before it was confirmed as legit. Besides the fact they never added any other review such as IGN to their Critic Score list... HA!
Gamespot's written review is up: http://uk.gamespot.com/ps3/action/aliensvspredatorworkingtitle/review.html?om_act=convert&om_clk=gssummary&tag=summary;read-review
Ah, yes, decapitation puns.
some people won't like it... thats a given. also any game like this is a nightmare to score when there's so many parts. i mean, if there's two brilliant campaigns and one terrible one does that make the single player 6 out of 10? different reviews will find different answers to these things.
a game without multiplayer will score more than a game with mediocre multiplayer and as good as a single player campaign by one sites review metrics, but the other way around from another.
does mediocre multiplayer add to the experience or detract from it? should a game be marked down for having no single player etc etc.
then look at AvP. three completely different campaigns. three completely different characters to get to wraps with. numerous multiplayer modes... putting a score on that was always going to be hard.
it's getting knocked for the Alien controls being hard... well yeah... they are. if you start the alien campaign before playing on line... you're going to struggle with them and probably get frustrated... but that isn't because they're broken. they're just hard. those of us who've been playing the demo won't find any issues controlling the different species.
But I can see how a reviewer that's never crawled on walls before being completely disenfranchised with the Alien campaign.
The super jump criticism... I don't know, I like that there's a clear marker telling me when I can jump. That makes a lot more sense to me than not having such a thing. Sure it's not always going to make sense, but levels always have to have boundries that can't be crossed. At least the HUD lets us know before we press the jump button.
The alternative would be what? making everything take place in canyons with giant walls? I don't know if there is an answer for that... again, I prefer having the super jump in, and in this form than the way it was in previous titles.
Shared levels is something I wanted in the game. It makes sense to me really that these three stories should be happening in the same places, and I look forwards to playing through those same levels with a different tool set, just as I enjoyed all the bonus levels in the first AvP.
It won't be perfect... it may not be a game for people who aren't fans of the franchises (or even all the people who are)... but we gamers, we only need one or two parts of the game to be awesome for it to be worth our time. I've probably played 50+ games of DM at this point... and even that mode is still fun to me on this one map.
Even if I never touch one or more of the campaigns, or one or more of the modes... I know from the demo that the game looks and plays brilliantly, even if certain parts of it may be lacking. I don't have to play every bit of it like a reviewer. I can just play the parts I love, and I know that the MP is only going to get more fun with the new modes and new maps.
Reviewers just don't think of a game that way. They can't say 'this one part of this game makes it worth buying, 9 out of 10'. People bought COD:WaW for the zombies mode and put hundreds of hours into it. People that had no interest in any COD game before or since. No interest in realistic war games.
That's the world we play games in. Reviewers... they have to disect every part of the game... it just doesn't always translate to something that reflects real world experiences.
I dont by that reviewers automatically give higher scores to AAA-titles. I always considered AvP a AAA and i play a lot of fps/tps on console. After playing the demo i agree with the controls being bad, and not just bad as in difficult to grasp but bad as in unresponsive. Comparing the marine controls to games like HALO or MW it is really hard to hit a moving target in AVP. And no, i dont suck at it. Personally I am really excited for the game but I am a huge ALIEN fan and i see why people who are not will find it mediocer.
the controls are very responsive, people just have been too used to playing other shooters.
they would say MW2's controls are bad if they were playing this AVP for 3 years.
and remember there are control sensitivity options.
The review I'm mostly looking forward to, is from Zero Punctuation. :p
Mixed reviews are a problem, but it's expected since the other AvP games were not that old school in their time.
What I am afraid of now:
1)Not many sales and lessened support.
2) "I told you so since this is not AvP2 and even the sites agree" and I expect really long reviews/comparisons in the fan review topic.
Quote from: Razz on Feb 15, 2010, 05:40:41 PM
Wow talk about a mixed bag of reviews, still getting it though. :)
I've been in the industry a very long time, I've worked on some terrible games, and classics that people still play 15 years later, and I can honestly say I've never seen any game get such a
wide range of scores. It really is a bit odd.
Quote from: TJ Doc on Feb 15, 2010, 05:53:38 PM
Yeah. It made me eat a creme egg. :-[
Snickers Duo here.
Gamespot licks GI's ass always. GI's review: 5.75 - GS's: 5.5
Also, the complaints are linear level design and awkward controls (which are totally fine BTW). And you're telling me that these 2 little things bring down the score to 5.5? Mmmm... yeah. Gamespot fails AGAIN and more often with each review...
They also rated Dante's Inferno 6/10, which is IMO a joke.
Quote from: Choirboy on Feb 15, 2010, 06:49:04 PM
I always considered AvP a AAA
Well it's not. God of War, Call of Duty, Halo, Mass Effect, these are AAA titles. It might be in your opinion, but in the video game industry, AVP is nowhere near anticipated as those titles and many more like them.
F**k GS, I'm still getting it!
it isn't considered a AAA anticipated title to the mainstream because AVP hasn't been around for almost 10 years. and it was a PC only franchise
(Jaguar doesn't count since most never even heard of it.)
I think this could still mark as the beginning of a fresh and exciting community fanbase for AVP.
ESPECIALLY since console gaming online was never as popular and important 10 years ago compared to
how it is now.
This game will really open a lot of minds and interest.
I don't think you can really slate Gamespot until you've played it yourselves. Gamespot are usually spot on with their reviews. It's quite surprising. I thought it might get a 7/10 but damn... 5.5.
I guess it's all about this game being more a PC game than a console game, for the sake of everyone enjoying the game I hope I'm wrong.
Here's all the reviews so far..
Empire Magazine 4/5
Game Informer 5.75/10
Gamers.AT 81%
Seraphic Gaming 8.6/10
OXM UK 8/10
IGN UK 8.5/10
TechDigest.TV 4/5
PC Zone 82%
Bit-Tech 7/10
Polymania 3+/5
Gamereactor 6/10
Everyeye.it 7.5/10
Gamez.nl 86/100
Jeuxactu.com 7/10 (SP)
Games.Tiscali 7/10
Gram.PL 4/6
GamingXP.Com 84%
Gamespot 5.5/10
FZ.SE 2/5
Quote from: Darkness on Feb 15, 2010, 07:18:42 PM
I don't think you can really slate Gamespot until you've played it yourselves. Gamespot are usually spot on with their reviews. It's quite surprising. I thought it might get a 7/10 but damn... 5.5.
I haven't trusted Gamespot since Kane & Lynch: Dead Men, when reviewers left to form GiantBomb because they were sick of Gamespot slighting some games due to corporate interests (after firing one for seemingly giving K&L a bad review).
I have a gut feeling that it'll sell as much on word of mouth as by reviews. If that turns out to be correct it may not chart as high, but will sell at a reasonable rate for longer.
Quote from: Ghost Rider LSOV on Feb 15, 2010, 06:55:07 PM
The review I'm mostly looking forward to, is from Zero Punctuation. :p
Mixed reviews are a problem, but it's expected since the other AvP games were not that old school in their time.
What I am afraid of now:
1)Not many sales and lessened support.
2) "I told you so since this is not AvP2 and even the sites agree" and I expect really long reviews/comparisons in the fan review topic.
Agreed. ^ I can't wait to see what Yahtzee makes of it. ;D :P
And it's pretty clear the Gamespot reviewer as just another MW2 fanboy, as i have played the latter extensively, and yet found the controls a breeze.
He's just going by - If it's not Gears, Halo or MW2, or some other big fat title with thousands of fans sucking on it, bin it.
Eurogamer.it (http://translate.google.es/translate?js=y&prev=_t&hl=es&ie=UTF-8&layout=1&eotf=1&u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.eurogamer.it%2Farticles%2Faliens-vs-predator-recensione_1%3Fpage%3D1&sl=auto&tl=en) 7/10
Wooh Poor Balance did he say? I found it to be one of the best Balanced games ive played multiplayer wise. I think all the races have a good chance against one another if played right.
The common trend in all the negative reviews are clunky controls which is bull♥♥♥♥ since they work wonders after you get used to them. Those reviewers didn't even play the game for an hour. They just saw that it wasn't another generic FPS and bashed it. Really sad...
Let's just play the game, after all this BS I don't trust reviews anymore.
it will be a average games to most people and to a lot of us more b/c we love aliens and predators and marines. But the fact of the matter is that if this game was a LEGIT bad ass game it wouldn't get low reviews period. It sucks maybe better luck next time. I'm still picking up my copy soon and hopefully the game can grow from where it is now. I just know that when a game is legitimately good it rarely gets bad reviews.
regardless go AVP just b/c of its name makes it a must buy for me. But even I can tell it's lacking a lot of things just from seeing video and playing the demo.
Quote from: Eidotemit on Feb 15, 2010, 07:28:32 PM
Quote from: Darkness on Feb 15, 2010, 07:18:42 PM
I don't think you can really slate Gamespot until you've played it yourselves. Gamespot are usually spot on with their reviews. It's quite surprising. I thought it might get a 7/10 but damn... 5.5.
I haven't trusted Gamespot since Kane & Lynch: Dead Men, when reviewers left to form GiantBomb because they were sick of Gamespot slighting some games due to corporate interests (after firing one for seemingly giving K&L a bad review).
I was actually reading about that yesterday. Quite shocking that they cared more about advertising revenue than about journalism. If that were true though, they'd be giving every game a low score if the publisher didn't advertise on their site. That isn't the case. They do give high scores if the game is really good.
Idk, i just don't use them anymore. I usually go to Gametrailers.
There is still gametrailers.com though
they have some decent reviews
@Eidotemit
you've beat me to it
Did anyone actually test the game with Dx11? would like to see a review with it mentioned. (if it has been I'm sorry to lazy to read all :P)
Quote from: Darkness on Feb 15, 2010, 07:42:07 PM
Quote from: Eidotemit on Feb 15, 2010, 07:28:32 PM
Quote from: Darkness on Feb 15, 2010, 07:18:42 PM
I don't think you can really slate Gamespot until you've played it yourselves. Gamespot are usually spot on with their reviews. It's quite surprising. I thought it might get a 7/10 but damn... 5.5.
I haven't trusted Gamespot since Kane & Lynch: Dead Men, when reviewers left to form GiantBomb because they were sick of Gamespot slighting some games due to corporate interests (after firing one for seemingly giving K&L a bad review).
I was actually reading about that yesterday. Quite shocking that they cared more about advertising revenue than about journalism. If that were true though, they'd be giving every game a low score if the publisher didn't advertise on their site. That isn't the case. They do give high scores if the game is really good.
They weren't very spot on when they gave ODST a 9 and GTA a 10.
I really want to see some other major review sites rate it. I've never had much respect for gamespot.
Giantbomb
Gametrailers
and the NA branch of IGN should have better reviews.
Can't help but feel a little disappointed by some of these mediocre reviews. I was hoping this would be the Arkham Asylum for A/P fans.
From my experience with watching Gametrailers reviews, it will probably give around 6.5-6.8.
I dislike its reviews.
Great trailer database otherwise. :p
Sad. There will be definately less players buying the game because of those reviews.
I expected a low score from Gamespot but a 5. :-\, wel at least this site will be playing the game for a long time I guess. :)
Wow gameranking completely ignores igns review and puts nothing but game informer and gamespots review.
http://www.gamerankings.com/browse.html?site=xbox360&page=1&sort=2&numrev=3&letter=A
Thats weird. Especially since technically IGN and Gamespot America havnt reviewed it so theres a chance for a better score.
ive decided to rent this one, even though i'm a fan, i watched a mate play it for about 3 hours this morning...
i would love to support the devs and buy, but after reading the reviews AND seeing poor AI and level design with my own eyes, i cant do it, even if i do love the mp. $60 is a LOT to spend in this economy, i waited to see if this was worth it, but i'll go with Mass Effect 2 i guess
congrats to rebellion for a great attempt, and it looks like riot in mp.
i cant wait, expecially with teh survivor mode with aliens, to me thats a game extender that and pred marine and alien campaign
Cant get it :/ is campaign really so bad? Played the demo (PC) really liked it, all was cool for me - controls, graphics. Just cant believe its so bad in retail version!!! Im getting really sad, but no way im canceling preorder, i will get this game and see by my eyes what inside there!!!!!
If the reviewer in Gamespot really has an issue with the controls, it's clear he didn't spend much time playing the game. I was fine with them in ten minutes. Granted, the meele system takes a bit of getting used to, but it's still fairly straightforward.
Well mostly the bad reviews are for the console version where the biggest issue so far is game controls... This is not an issue for PC version :) Good for me.
Graphics ... Im still playing original UFO for the atmosphere. No prob for me.
Level design ... well It can't be worse than Fear I suppose.
Game length ... it would bother me few years back when I had time to play 8+ a day but not now.
And what all the reviews missed and what will be one of the best parts... Multiplayer
Gamespot is not exactly a good place to get reviews, especially because of the Kayne and Lynch incident. I usually don't follow any reviews so this is not that big of a deal for me.
I don't get it personally. The controls are absolutely fine for the console. I found them to feel natural and I can effectively play with all species (not played as the others enough to fully master CQB) with the controller. In fact, I prefer it to the keyboard. I think that these reviewers aren't taking the time to get to grips with the controls and just slamming them for it.
i doubt that game lenght could be a problem. One mentioned that marine campaign on hard level takes about 8 hours (ofcourse it depends...) + there is an alien and pred campaign.
Quote from: Jumbik on Feb 15, 2010, 09:40:23 PM
Well mostly the bad reviews are for the console version where the biggest issue so far is game controls... This is not an issue for PC version :) Good for me.
Graphics ... Im still playing original UFO for the atmosphere. No prob for me.
Level design ... well It can't be worse than Fear I suppose.
Game length ... it would bother me few years back when I had time to play 8+ a day but not now.
And what all the reviews missed and what will be one of the best parts... Multiplayer
imho the controls are worse for pc, no sensitivity and there too spread out (yes i know you cam customize them but this game uses alot of keys)
QuoteI was hoping this would be the Arkham Asylum for A/P fans.
You poor naive bastard. :D
Not surprised by the mediocre reviews.. I told you so. :P
I pretty much got the hang of the Alien controls on my 2nd try. Guess it comes more natural to some players than others. But everytime I read complaints about the controls, I feel like they slam them because they don't play exactly like Modern Warfare or Battlefield.
Lol at the people who say "if this game was good it would not get bad reviews". From what i can see it mostly has 7+ reviews.... So you people are wrong, the game is good and it is not getting bad reviews, at least not enough bad reviews to worry about. Lol, you guys are funny.
Quote from: GrimyGhost on Feb 15, 2010, 09:45:45 PM
Quote from: Jumbik on Feb 15, 2010, 09:40:23 PM
Well mostly the bad reviews are for the console version where the biggest issue so far is game controls... This is not an issue for PC version :) Good for me.
Graphics ... Im still playing original UFO for the atmosphere. No prob for me.
Level design ... well It can't be worse than Fear I suppose.
Game length ... it would bother me few years back when I had time to play 8+ a day but not now.
And what all the reviews missed and what will be one of the best parts... Multiplayer
imho the controls are worse for pc, no sensitivity and there too spread out (yes i know you cam customize them but this game uses alot of keys)
I had no issue with PC controls at all. No need for analogs when I have mouse.
And too much keys? I played games that utilised the keyboard 3 times with shift, control and alt possibilities ... can't tell that AvP has too much keys to use.
Quote from: Jumbik on Feb 15, 2010, 09:53:49 PM
Quote from: GrimyGhost on Feb 15, 2010, 09:45:45 PM
Quote from: Jumbik on Feb 15, 2010, 09:40:23 PM
Well mostly the bad reviews are for the console version where the biggest issue so far is game controls... This is not an issue for PC version :) Good for me.
Graphics ... Im still playing original UFO for the atmosphere. No prob for me.
Level design ... well It can't be worse than Fear I suppose.
Game length ... it would bother me few years back when I had time to play 8+ a day but not now.
And what all the reviews missed and what will be one of the best parts... Multiplayer
imho the controls are worse for pc, no sensitivity and there too spread out (yes i know you cam customize them but this game uses alot of keys)
I had no issue with PC controls at all. No need for analogs when I have mouse.
And too much keys? I played games that utilised the keyboard 3 times with shift, control and alt possibilities ... can't tell that AvP has too much keys to use.
Agree with that. I had no problems with controls also on PC. Try arma 2 on PC :D
I actually felt like AvP had a shortage of key assignments on the PC version.
Quote from: Jumbik on Feb 15, 2010, 09:40:23 PM
Graphics ... Im still playing original UFO for the atmosphere. No prob for me.
Hahaa. Like I said.
Quote from: Drewid on Feb 15, 2010, 06:55:53 PM
... classics that people still play 15 years later,...
7-/10 on Czech website tiscali games.
http://games.tiscali.cz/reviews/aliens-vs-predator-exkluzivni-recenze/
The majority of the reviews are still quite positive, Im really only looking forward to two reviews: GameTrailers and Hicks' review for this site.
lol at everyone that is trying to defend this game. It's an ok game, not great but not awful. >>Except it!<< All these comments about reviewers "not taking time to learn the controls" or "favoring games for financial reasons" - give me a f***ing break! Do you honestly think that someone whos job it is to play video games cant figure out the controls after finishing a game? And on the off chance they don't, is that an acceptable control scheme? Or could it possibly be that the game isn't perfect? You all seem to be forgetting that Rebellion hasn't made a decent game since AvP 99. To me it's a miracle that the same studio that brought you Rogue Warrior a few months ago delivered something other than pure garbage. I love ALIENS and i had high hopes for this game but to me it is clear that this has nowhere near the polish of a title like Cod or Halo. With all the shortcomings mentioned in various reviews i would say this is a 6/10 for action gamers and 8/10 for fans of the movies/universe.
Quote from: Choirboy on Feb 15, 2010, 10:42:20 PM
lol at everyone that is trying to defend this game. It's an ok game, not great but not awful. >>Except it!<< All these comments about reviewers "not taking time to learn the controls" or "favoring games for financial reasons" - give me a f***ing break! Do you honestly think that someone whos job it is to play video games cant figure out the controls after finishing a game? And on the off chance they don't, is that an acceptable control scheme? Or could it possibly be that the game isn't perfect? You all seem to be forgetting that Rebellion hasn't made a decent game since AvP 99. To me it's a miracle that the same studio that brought you Rogue Warrior a few months ago delivered something other than pure garbage. I love ALIENS and i had high hopes for this game but to me it is clear that this has nowhere near the polish of a title like Cod or Halo. With all the shortcomings mentioned in various reviews i would say this is a 6/10 for action gamers and 8/10 for fans of the movies/universe.
How can we take advice...from a dumbass who cant spell
accept? This game is great, the melee system is deep though as with most games its not perfect. Any reviewer saying the game doesnt have great graphics is discredited due the fact the game uses Direct X11 and it looks amazing on that setting. So how come they dont mention it? And I had no trouble with the controls at ALL on my ps3.
What Choirboy said. Some of you guys would glorify this game even if it was a pile of dung. There are legit reasons for the game not scoring high in all reviews.
This is just a good AvP title, unfortunately it's nowhere near classic status like the previous ones.
afrocat: Chill out, the guy is not a native speaker, no need to bash him for a grammar error. Have you even seen the game with DX11? Mind you, DX11 really isn't some magic stuff which makes a game instantly awesome - some edges are more shooth, some textures more sharp and that's about it.
Being a gamer for the last...well since i was maybe six? and never playing avp until playing the avp2 single player I can honestly say this game is better than the huge pile of dung that is MW2. Holy shit that game is horrible. It really can't be overstated the extent to which Infinity Ward has destroyed that franchise for me. The most garish junior high peechee poem could not fully encircle their failure. They had all my friends obsessing, appearing nightly to take part in their howling, murderous ritual, and while we were able to endure the first few waves of inexplicable game behavior, soul by soul the faithful turned away. Keep in mind most of my friends dont play videogames much and are more into sports. AVP does lack some polish but its definitly better than the cheap ass shit that tends to come out these days. (FPS wise)
Fine, my grammar is off. How does this in any way reflect my point? And why would the reviews discuss graphical features like DX11 when it is (like all games nowadays) first and foremost a console game? And why do some people think it's so 133t to bash MW2? It's got nice graphics (better than most), excellent controls and a lot of contents. Not the best game out there, not my favorite, but i still can see that it has obvious qualities that far exceed AvP. I'm not hating this game, I'm actually really looking forward to it. I do not however pretend it is perfect.
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http://avp.org.pl/forum/viewtopic.php?t=264
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Somebody is getting cranky cause of the bad reviews.
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Cool picture.
Quote from: Choirboy on Feb 15, 2010, 11:19:18 PM
Fine, my grammar is off. How does this in any way reflect my point? And why would the reviews discuss graphical features like DX11 when it is (like all games nowadays) first and foremost a console game? And why do some people think it's so 133t to bash MW2? It's got nice graphics (better than most), excellent controls and a lot of contents. Not the best game out there, not my favorite, but i still can see that it has obvious qualities that far exceed AvP. I'm not hating this game, I'm actually really looking forward to it. I do not however pretend it is perfect.
I wish it was perfect buy you're right. It has a lot of room for improvement. Right now there is no way it can compete with the stuff out today. It lacking alot of things most games now have.
I just dont get it.. why a 5.5? Ive played alot of shitty games in the past that have gotten a 5.5. And this isnt one of them. I mean i got the game on the PC so i cant comment on the console versions but
The Controls = Great once you get hang of them, i love running at high speed to wall to wall with the alien.
The Graphics = I love them, great texture work on the characters and the trophy kils are really well animated.
The Sound = Awesome! i have a few niggles with the Smart-gun (but who doesnt?)
The Gameplay = Freaking great! lenghy singleplayer + CO-OP + Fun Multiplayer = Good replay value.
I cant find any major fault with this game i really cant, even if i try to think of faults i just cant. I can nickpick but i cant generaly say "ohh this game is bad because the Smart-gun doesn't sound like it does in the movie"
Seems like these so called complaints are more like stupid nickpicks a 8 year old would make. MW2 now theres a game i can give complaints about. Lets name a few Complaints i have "these are my valid reasons why MW2 is all hype. And that reviewers always forget about these and just focus on the bad points. Ok so Bad points in MW2?
First off the Spawning sucks (This wasnt an issue in the first MW Game) Ive killed people or cleared rooms, only to be shot in the back because someone has spawned in the room i just checked 1 second ago. It seems like i get more deaths because of this stupid ass flaw.
The Singleplayer disspite it being fun is lackluster. I felt no emotion for any of the characters and it was just "Kill bad guys, move on" Then after the level i get a Video screen with useless data on, and two people talking about somthing i have no idea what about.
The Level design sucks in multiplayer, The Original MW Game had much more fun levels. Theres too many openings and windows and doors that make it impossible to laydown a good camping spot. Annoying ass gameplay bugs and glitches that ruined the game and still are.
The AI is dumb. Its not impressive, yes IW have removed the endless spawning but all they did was replace the spawning with fix positions with the enemy's (so the AI is the same its just placed different) Ive never once seen the AI react differntly to my tactics. All i see with the AI is that it throws the odd Flashbang or grenade or keeps firing at my last known position. they never flank me or use team work (Somthing the Marines in AVP3 Do)
MW2 sucks balls in my opinion, the Singleplayer experience is forgettible and the Multiplayer is overhyped. Yes it was impressive first time around but they didnt really add anything. The Multiplayer has no skill its just a set of varibles, (This guy this this gun with this amount of recoil with this perk) theres no skill involed, all you need is luck and hope you have a better weapon loadout then the guy your fighting. All they just tweaked the multiplayer a alittle bit, added a few new weapons and changed some of the perks and added some new kill streaks. All that for 60$ WOW impressed. Now MW2 is a good game but its not the Mother of all FPS that all games should follow.
AVP3 in my eyes is my perfect Online shooter. It doesnt have stupid ironsights, it doesnt have weapon loadouts, theres no Perks that effect bullet penatration or recoil, theres no cheap ass Martadom. All there is, is your pulse rifle and motion tracker and the rest is up to skill.
I just dont listen Gamepot much now because it feels if one game comes a certan multiplayer mode they expect all the others to have so, or if not they give the game a stupid rating. You watch the last line the guy says in the GS Review. What was it he says? "theres better Online first personshooters or somthing? The only few major ones being played are "MW2, Killzone, Halo3. Halo3 is outdated and did nothing to reinvent the genre, Killzone 2 has a good multiplayer though.
Give me one game where u can pit Aliens, Predators & Marines in the same game. That alone is my ticket to this game.
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http://avp.org.pl/forum/viewtopic.php?t=264
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Sorry for double post but wtf is that thing? Some kind of undead Skeleton?
Its a Combat Synthetic.
Or in more basic wording an android.
They prefer the term 'artificial person'.
Quote from: MadassAlex on Feb 16, 2010, 12:04:22 AM
They prefer the term 'artificial person'.
I doubt those ones do.
http://www.metacritic.com/games/platforms/ps3/aliensvspredator?q=aliens%20vs.%20predator (http://www.metacritic.com/games/platforms/ps3/aliensvspredator?q=aliens%20vs.%20predator)
You can see there that Playstation Official Magazine Australia gave it a 9/10.
The highest score for the game so far.
and another thing:
AVP Xbox metascore: 67/100
AVP PS metascore: 70/100
AVP PC metascore: 76/100
Well, I know the score is low, but most of the reviews talk about crappy campaigns and clunky controls.
1) Ain't buying this game for the campaigns but for the MP alone which even Gamespot (that gave AVP 5.5) admits it's great.
2) Well, I got used to the controls evne though they are not-that-great (and they aren't).
Some of you people need to stop bashing every review that gives it a score lower than 7/10.
More of those reviews will come so will you bash every single one of them?
I do know that the Gameinformer review was poorly written and biased.
But Gamespot's review had some good points.
From the looks of it, AVP will probably be the most "love it or hate it" FPS ever.
i guess last week they were only releasing the good reviews. i though it was gunna get a metacritic score of about 81 then. and now with all these bad reviews it looks like avp will get about a 68-74 which is very dissapointing. 68-74 is a okay score but for one of my favorite upcoming games thats pritty bad. i hope if sega decides to make another avp they go with another developer because rebellion clearly cant make a very good game anymore.
anyway im sure ill enjoy it but it will probably not be anything special
Its just hard to trust a website that accepts money for good reviews. (Gamespot and Gameinformer. Any other site is fairgame)
Quote from: RidgeTop on Feb 16, 2010, 12:22:55 AM
From the looks of it, AVP will probably be the most "love it or hate it" FPS ever.
That's just the way it is when we live in a world of Call of duty.
Yes...damn you call of duty. Whyd you sell out after such a polished fun game called Modern Warfare? How the mighty have fallen.
Reviewers focus on the whole package, not just fun factor, or gameplay, but everything in the game is attributed to it's score. So what if the game has a fun multiplayer if the singe-player is lacking, the graphics aren't up to snuff, and the controls aren't exactly pic up and play.
I faced the same thing when Tekken 6 was released, it is an amazing 3D fighter, but it had lackluster graphics, a horrible single-player campaign, at launch it had truly sucky lag, but the actual core gameplay is very deep and satisfying if you take the time to learn it and dig past the obvious 10 hit strings and launchers- things that will get you wasted vs pro's.
It's this same here, people only see the most obvious gameplay issues, the repeated trophy kills, and issues controlling the alien, without realizing that those issues won't be a problem vs good players. Reviewers shouldn't be listened to when they spout balance or concerns of mutliplayer longevity. They are simply in no way able to make that kind of judgement with what short time they have to play and then write their review. those kinds of topics are best left to the fans and players.
Hell, some competitive titles are still going strong after 10-15 years, and the players still don't disagree or have even figured out everysingle technique, match-up, or metagame.
Quote from: yaji on Feb 15, 2010, 11:38:59 PM
Its a Combat Synthetic.
What happened to its face?
Edit: I wouldnt of been supprised if Activision paid all the review sites to give this game a bad review.
PC Powerplay gave it 7/10
http://forums.steampowered.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1142956
Burn360.net (http://burn360.net/reviews/aliens-predator-review/) 3/5
Quote from: Puks on Feb 15, 2010, 10:51:01 PM
What Choirboy said. Some of you guys would glorify this game even if it was a pile of dung. There are legit reasons for the game not scoring high in all reviews.
This is just a good AvP title, unfortunately it's nowhere near classic status like the previous ones.
afrocat: Chill out, the guy is not a native speaker, no need to bash him for a grammar error. Have you even seen the game with DX11? Mind you, DX11 really isn't some magic stuff which makes a game instantly awesome - some edges are more shooth, some textures more sharp and that's about it.
Tessellated backgrounds begs to differ.
I like how the Gamespot 5.5 Review is listed under the Editor's Picks on the site.
I also like how biased it was..my god. Well gs owns gi..and whatnot..so do the math I guess. the ygave some reaso nto their complaints..however their complaints are subjected. I don't really go to Gs for reviews anyways. I usually go to ign and gametrailers.
Heh, I've been seeing that a lot lately. GameSToP owns GI, not GameSPoT.
Quote from: HannibalKing on Feb 16, 2010, 02:24:57 AM
Heh, I've been seeing that a lot lately. GameSToP owns GI, not GameSPoT.
Very true. Gamestop does not review games. However GameSPOT does accept money for positive reviews so...either way unreliable. Gamesradar and 1up are credible, while IGN and Gametrailers are iffy...
Speaking of IGN, I'm still very curious as to when the AUS and US reviews from IGN will be up. Very curious as to what the difference in scores will be what with the love it or hate it thing going on as of now for the game.
I always forget how the U.S review differs from the UK. I know usually I see the Aussies at IGN be a little harder in their reviews compared to UK, but that's just from my experience.
Who cares what gs or gi has to say. I have always too kthe time to read/listen to igns reviews, gt, 1up, oxm and whatnot. The core feedback im worried about is from the fans f the series. As this is my first avp game im going to play. Thats what im looking for. Not some biased reviews f ro mthe lieks of gs and gi. Granted its stil ltheir opinion. However why hate on something that goes beyond the bs medium that is cod? Next cod is already in gi and gs nook in getting a 9.
Quote from: afrocat on Feb 16, 2010, 12:26:08 AM
Its just hard to trust a website that accepts money for good reviews. (Gamespot and Gameinformer. Any other site is fairgame)
/\ This.
http://www.gamepro.com/article/news/214030/when-youll-see-gps-avp-review/
Game Pro isn't posting a review until they play multiplayer I'm guessing they didn't enjoy the single player as they are waiting for the multiplayer to quote "change his view". This isn't surprising as the single player looks very bland from when I saw it on the youtube videos. I hope the multiplayer is better so that it gets good reviews.
QuoteI was hoping this would be the Arkham Asylum for A/P fans.
This game is getting more good reviews then bad ones, and Gamespot is a mixed in the bag if you ask me. You can either love them or hate them for their reviews. I still think TP and BT2 should have got better scores then what they got in my opinon.
Quote from: Chaotic-Strike on Feb 16, 2010, 03:55:26 AM
http://www.gamepro.com/article/news/214030/when-youll-see-gps-avp-review/
Game Pro isn't posting a review until they play multiplayer I'm guessing they didn't enjoy the single player as they are waiting for the multiplayer to quote "change his view". This isn't surprising as the single player looks very bland from when I saw it on the youtube videos. I hope the multiplayer is better so that it gets good reviews.
of course this highlights a big issue the reviewers face too. the expectation on reviewers is to get the game review out by the time the game comes out. that means they can't really judge the multiplayer fairly. the servers could work fine before launch and be terrible afterwards. they will struggle to get together full games to see how th modes really shake down... and as we know with a game like this, it'll be a month or two before we see how truly balanced it is.
a lot of people that were down on the demo at first have come around. reviewers don't get that kind of time with a game. it's just a game that takes a while to get to grips with. that's a fair criticism of it... but one I think all of us that have played the demo can safely ignore along with criticisms of the controls and it being disorienting to play as the alien.
it's not my first time loving a game that got bad or mixed reviews. ultimately the player base will be what it will be and the sales will be what they will be. i think it's a game where the people that buy it will give it more of a chance than reviewers maybe did, and even those that feel it's a 5/10 game initially will start to come around to it when they get their teeth into the multiplayer.
for me, AvP2's sp was really lacking and a big disapointment, but it didn't stop me loving the game since the MP was so good. if it's the same story this time... so what. i'm not buying it for the SP so if I don't bother with it i'm not going to be particularly upset, same as how I don't care whether or not Bioshock 2's MP is any good.
review scores will potentially hurt sales initially, but word of mouth will override that in the following months (Borderlands didn't sell the bulk of it's copies on reviews other than in the first week or so). if someone loved the demo they'll buy the game regardless of any reviews. plus, if Predators is successful that'll give it a nice little bump.
we took a bunch of calls about it at Gamestop tonight and a healthy amount of last minute pre-orders. mostly people that had played the demo or seen the adverts on TV... so that's a good sign. if they like it and tell their friends... well that'll push copies more than reviews i think.
Take into account that almost all those reviews are for the console versions. They shouldn't cry about PC controls/graphics, so the rating should buff up for it.
Aliens vs Predator vs marmite
We need to put this into perspective.
Reviews are reviews. I think this game deserves an 8/10 that would be my score based on the demo alone. Now i like the rest of you have played alot of demos. This is without a doubt one of the best.
Mw2 got BIG reviews great scores but the fact is.... it ain't that good. Overated BIG time IMO.
GTA Iv Got the highest review's i think i've seen.... why? It just boring mission based gameplay which we have seen in all the other gta's across all the other platforms.
Gamespot didn't like it. MOST OTHERS did and i'm sure through today you lucky americans will like it to!!
I'm sure the score will average out 75% ish.
Good enough for my money.
Quick count as of all reviews so far surgests that the overall score for the game is still 74/75% average....
Im just sick of all these mother effing sequels so when I see something new and exciting i support it. (Yes im aware AVP is a sequel but those games were ten years ago so its different then the yearly COD) the only game I dont find overrated is Halo. Halo 3 was the best campaign I ever played in my life aside from playing the flood level in Halo(Which I noticed uses ALOT of atmosphere from Alien and Aliens) Those damn BELIEVE commercials led to me and my best friend on the final level driving from the collapsing world. Me and him drove right next to each other in seperate warthhogs. We went off a jump shouting BELIEVE. He didnt make it I laughed my ass off to the end of the game. Best FPS campaign ever for me coop does wonders. Idk about you guys but Im just glad AVP is so unique. Thats what made Conker the shit back in the day.
Im actualy now ammused, GI aus gave it 8.7, thats a magazine that gives it's customers consistancy ;D :D
Clearly Game Informer do not know what they are talking about.
can I see this review?? Id love to read it. Imma try to pick up the game today but gamestop said tommorow for my hunter edition....*douchebags :(*
Just so you all know, so far we've averaged 72.7 and there are some more Australian reviews (around 90ish) coming that will bring that up a bit.
Quote from: Drewid on Feb 16, 2010, 10:08:29 AM
Just so you all know, so far we've averaged 72.7 and there are some more Australian reviews (around 90ish) coming that will bring that up a bit.
Is that on metacritic and if so which consoles?
Ps3 is at 60 something. Idk why they only put in PSM AU (9/10) and the gamespot gameinformer. They totally ignored IGN for some reason.
Quote from: Corporal Wilks on Feb 16, 2010, 10:09:29 AM
Quote from: Drewid on Feb 16, 2010, 10:08:29 AM
Just so you all know, so far we've averaged 72.7 and there are some more Australian reviews (around 90ish) coming that will bring that up a bit.
Is that on metacritic and if so which consoles?
No. It's a straight unweighted average based on the scores posted so far here.
I've no idea how the new Aussie scores are all from big magazines/sites, but I've no idea how the (slightly mysterious) metacritic weighting will affect the overall MC score.
Without those scores we've got 67 MC on xbox and 71 on PS3, no rating yet on PC, as of now. More reviews will surface today and shift that.
Playr a uk TV show gave it 7 out of 10, thats for the SP and the MP demo. Not bad i think..
Hahaha Angry Joe videos are the funniest things Ive seen about the AvP game. He totally rips than Game Informer reviewer, so funny. Legend! It will rock!
Quote from: Spic on Feb 16, 2010, 09:56:41 AM
Im actualy now ammused, GI aus gave it 8.7, thats a magazine that gives it's customers consistancy ;D :D
You can't be serious, a 30 points gap between the different branches of the same magazine?
i find this real weird. Talk about range in scores... i said back on page 30 something this is a marmite game and i think i'm right so far.
Gamespot are so off the mark it makes there review meaningless. Well at least i think it does.
More scores added to the 1st page.
Seems that the majority of the scores are favorable.
On gametrailers forums they are ripping the s***t out of this game for 2 bad reviews and they are ignorant when the few that stick up for this and post all the good reviews they just ignore that post entirely and then say it was always going to be a failure even though the post above there's has a link to the 8/10 ign review lol ignorant people.
I wonder what they are going to say if Gametrailers gives it a good score.
Quote from: Friday13 on Feb 16, 2010, 03:44:52 PM
On gametrailers forums they are ripping the s***t out of this game for 2 bad reviews and they are ignorant when the few that stick up for this and post all the good reviews they just ignore that post entirely and then say it was always going to be a failure even though the post above there's has a link to the 8/10 ign review lol ignorant people.
I don't know why but i have always thought the'll hate it on gametrailers.... you can just see it coming.... 7 tho i think will be good enough from them.
Funny as well on gamespot they have reviews from Users and there mostly 8.5 or above.... mostly!
The only other 'media' reviews they have are from...... wait..... thats it you got it GAME INFORMA!!!!!!
Quote from: Friday13 on Feb 16, 2010, 03:44:52 PM
On gametrailers forums they are ripping the s***t out of this game for 2 bad reviews and they are ignorant when the few that stick up for this and post all the good reviews they just ignore that post entirely and then say it was always going to be a failure even though the post above there's has a link to the 8/10 ign review lol ignorant people.
Their loss to be honest, they clearly dont know anything about it if they refuse to listen to real fans of the francise who love the game. Probably the same people who think Modern Warfare 2 is the best game ever. At least we won't have idiots online when playing AvP like most MW2 matches. They probably havent even seen a Predator or an Alien movie.
Well, actually - meh, screw it, I'm tired of arguing. Just would like to say that *true* fans should be the ones bitching imo, since this game was obviously developed mainly for casual gamers and newcomers.
*runs away, evading stones*
Quote from: Puks on Feb 16, 2010, 04:02:09 PM
Well, actually - meh, screw it, I'm tired of arguing. Just would like to say that *true* fans should be the ones bitching imo, since this game was obviously developed mainly for casual gamers and newcomers.
*runs away, evading stones*
i disagree, i like the demo, and im certain i will like the game more.
Quote from: Corporal Wilks on Feb 16, 2010, 03:56:54 PM
Quote from: Friday13 on Feb 16, 2010, 03:44:52 PM
On gametrailers forums they are ripping the s***t out of this game for 2 bad reviews and they are ignorant when the few that stick up for this and post all the good reviews they just ignore that post entirely and then say it was always going to be a failure even though the post above there's has a link to the 8/10 ign review lol ignorant people.
Their loss to be honest, they clearly dont know anything about it if they refuse to listen to real fans of the francise who love the game. Probably the same people who think Modern Warfare 2 is the best game ever. At least we won't have idiots online when playing AvP like most MW2 matches. They probably havent even seen a Predator or an Alien movie.
I agree with what you say but gametrailers overall is known for there hate for that game (only on forums) mainly because of no dedicated servers. But i see what you mean they do mainly go for the mainstream games on that forum apart from MW2 and Halo they have a lot of hate for those games.There are some fans defending it though.
A new video interview by the guys at Gametank.TV.
They came here last Friday & part 1 is now up: http://www.youtube.com/user/GameTankTV
Never met a bunch of guys so enthusiast to meet us all :)
Quotei like the demo, and im certain i will like the game more
So do I. Doesn't mean I can't critisize the shit out of it.
Quote from: GrimyGhost on Feb 16, 2010, 04:03:04 PM
Quote from: Puks on Feb 16, 2010, 04:02:09 PM
Well, actually - meh, screw it, I'm tired of arguing. Just would like to say that *true* fans should be the ones bitching imo, since this game was obviously developed mainly for casual gamers and newcomers.
*runs away, evading stones*
i disagree, i like the demo, and im certain i will like the game more.
Don't go there. there are lots of people who like the game/demo. Look at all the positive reviews from other journo's/fans/HARDCORE gamers.
The positive reviews out weigh the negitive one's. Thats all that really matters.
onet.pl gave it a 8/10
even though they suck at reviews I thought I would share
Quote from: ajm on Feb 16, 2010, 04:14:57 PM
A new video interview by the guys at Gametank.TV.
They came here last Friday & part 1 is now up: http://www.youtube.com/user/GameTankTV
Never met a bunch of guys so enthusiast to meet us all :)
I need to point out as well - the suicide gag at the end is purely that, it is not a mandatory part of game dev!
Suicide gag? Colour me intrigued...
playr review 7/10
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S1RAVI8VHbM&feature=sub
Quote from: Barry burton on Feb 16, 2010, 04:29:45 PM
playr review 7/10
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S1RAVI8VHbM&feature=sub
:o i want a 10/10 please even if the people that give a 10/10 is a fanboy reviewer that ignore the bad points.Lol
You're welcome to write your own. 11/10
Quote from: ajm on Feb 16, 2010, 04:21:53 PM
Quote from: ajm on Feb 16, 2010, 04:14:57 PM
A new video interview by the guys at Gametank.TV.
They came here last Friday & part 1 is now up: http://www.youtube.com/user/GameTankTV
Never met a bunch of guys so enthusiast to meet us all :)
I need to point out as well - the suicide gag at the end is purely that, it is not a mandatory part of game dev!
Nice
Judge Dredd vs Death statue. I remember that game! You guys let me fight zombies in a shopping mall long before
Dead Rising came around. :D
I would but i am not a fanboy i can only defend it so far but i still no there are things to improve upon. :D
TheGuardian.co.uk (http://www.guardian.co.uk/technology/gamesblog/2010/feb/16/aliens-vs-predator-game-review) 4/5
Right! If The Guardian says it's good, then it must be good. They are awesome. Period.
Edit: EXCEPT for that "xenomorph from Predator" comment. Ahem.
Quote from: TJ Doc on Feb 16, 2010, 05:32:54 PM
Right! If The Guardian says it\'s good, then it must be good. They are awesome. Period.
Edit: EXCEPT for that \"xenomorph from Predator\" comment. Ahem.
The Guardian rule. But the Daily Express no one can beat
Meh. *shakes fist*
Quote from: ikarop on Feb 16, 2010, 05:27:37 PM
TheGuardian.co.uk (http://www.guardian.co.uk/technology/gamesblog/2010/feb/16/aliens-vs-predator-game-review) 4/5
Nice, but we're based in Oxford, not Cambridge ;0
Quote from: TJ Doc on Feb 16, 2010, 05:32:54 PM
Right! If The Guardian says it\'s good, then it must be good. They are awesome. Period.
Edit: EXCEPT for that \"xenomorph from Predator\" comment. Ahem.
I didn\'t get that comment either
They did mess up a couple of big facts there. :D
oh i\'ll forgive them for giving it a good score. :D
Quote from: TJ Doc on Feb 16, 2010, 05:43:53 PM
They did mess up a couple of big facts there. :D
Indeed, like the 6 MP modes :-\
Quote from: ajm on Feb 16, 2010, 05:42:06 PM
Quote from: ikarop on Feb 16, 2010, 05:27:37 PM
TheGuardian.co.uk (http://www.guardian.co.uk/technology/gamesblog/2010/feb/16/aliens-vs-predator-game-review) 4/5
Nice, but we're based in Oxford, not Cambridge ;0
lol, Oh no.... That's a whole different bag of worms right there hehe..... Don't mention the boat race what ever you do lol...
Teamxbox.com (http://reviews.teamxbox.com/xbox-360/1849/Aliens-vs-Predator/p1/) 6/10
Quote from: ikarop on Feb 16, 2010, 06:08:33 PM
Quote from: TJ Doc on Feb 16, 2010, 05:43:53 PM
They did mess up a couple of big facts there. :D
Indeed, like the 6 MP modes :-\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\
They probably didn\'t think survivor a mp mode. Since that is the only one that is really counted as separate comparing it to the other ones
Also gametrailers are going to have a game play blow-out http://www.gametrailers.com/ sorry for the link on my computer you can not choose the emoticons or spoilers or anything like that.
Nice to see so many good reviews. Im maybe still angry about 3-4 aspects, but I will probably enjoy it and hope for good support. I cant blame people, who dont like it, but understand those, who pretty much like it. Hate it or love it, fits it seems.
Quote from: yaji on Feb 15, 2010, 11:24:08 PM
Spoiler
(https://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Favp.org.pl%2Fobrazki%2Frec%2Frec2.jpg&hash=92d3120b4367db792954dbaf4c737b0648c5eab9)
http://avp.org.pl/forum/viewtopic.php?t=264
:)
Wow. That synthetic looks quite more terrifying then an alien or pred. :-[ Disturbing, but somehow cool, too. Pretty good biomechanical design. I hope they sound creepy as well. ;D
I dont want to overrate it, but I think details like that, show the effort from a developer.
The gametrailer forums are full of little kids, what else can you expect with a popular game reviewing site in this day and age.
Quote from: ikarop on Feb 16, 2010, 06:26:16 PM
Teamxbox.com (http://reviews.teamxbox.com/xbox-360/1849/Aliens-vs-Predator/p1/) 6/10
Well, I guess it's time for another creme egg.
Still averaging 74.14.
Gamespy (http://xbox360.gamespy.com/xbox-360/aliens-vs-predator-2009/1069531p1.html) 2.5/5
Seems like this one is a "from AvP fans for AvP fans" game.
Quote from: scarhunter92 on Feb 16, 2010, 08:56:07 PM
Seems like this one is a "from AvP fans for AvP fans" game.
I agree.
Quote from: Predator:o:95 on Feb 16, 2010, 08:58:48 PM
Quote from: scarhunter92 on Feb 16, 2010, 08:56:07 PM
Seems like this one is a "from AvP fans for AvP fans" game.
I agree.
That is a good thing though. I would rather have a game the fans loved and everyone else hated than a game which the fans hated but everybody else thought was good.
Quote from: Corporal Wilks on Feb 16, 2010, 09:00:31 PM
Quote from: Predator:o:95 on Feb 16, 2010, 08:58:48 PM
Quote from: scarhunter92 on Feb 16, 2010, 08:56:07 PM
Seems like this one is a "from AvP fans for AvP fans" game.
I agree.
That is a good thing though. I would rather have a game the fans loved and everyone else hated than a game which the fans hated but everybody else thought was good.
*Tear for Resistance 2* :'(
in the retail version online ive noticed a lot of ppl talking about the series, and how this game pays tribute well.
Quote from: mavox1 on Feb 16, 2010, 09:36:11 PM
in the retail version online ive noticed a lot of ppl talking about the series, and how this game pays tribute well.
Yey I keep hearing more and more good things.
Quote from: ikarop on Feb 16, 2010, 08:54:56 PM
Gamespy (http://xbox360.gamespy.com/xbox-360/aliens-vs-predator-2009/1069531p1.html) 2.5/5
This review lacks substance.
Quote from: TJ Doc on Feb 16, 2010, 08:27:09 PM
Quote from: ikarop on Feb 16, 2010, 06:26:16 PM
Teamxbox.com (http://reviews.teamxbox.com/xbox-360/1849/Aliens-vs-Predator/p1/) 6/10
Well, I guess it's time for another creme egg.
God i love creme eggs. Creme eggs and avp..... sounds like me friday!!!
QuoteWorse, the sound design is wholly lifted from the movies, from gun sounds to alien hisses -- again, woulda been nice to see some imagination here, Rebellion...
Umm, that's a good thing. >:(
Quote from: predalien27 on Feb 16, 2010, 09:52:26 PM
QuoteWorse, the sound design is wholly lifted from the movies, from gun sounds to alien hisses -- again, woulda been nice to see some imagination here, Rebellion...
Umm, that's a good thing. >:(
Yikes, which review was this taken from?
Gamespy. :(
That's a good thing. And the one sound they do replace, everyone here complains about! Jesus! ::)
Quote from: predalien27 on Feb 16, 2010, 09:52:26 PM
QuoteWorse, the sound design is wholly lifted from the movies, from gun sounds to alien hisses -- again, woulda been nice to see some imagination here, Rebellion...
Umm, that's a good thing. >:(
Would have been a good thing if it was entirely true.
Quote from: Corporal Hicks on Feb 16, 2010, 09:56:54 PM
That's a good thing. And the one sound they do replace, everyone here complains about! Jesus! ::)
For sure, not to mention the fact that IMO as a sound designer its way harder to accurately replicate recognizable sounds than it is to make passable new ones. Good on Rebellion i say!
About the smart gun though... ;)
I agree. Hopefully we can keep die hard CoD/Halo fans out of this game, spare us the headache of listening to "this game should have this and that".
IGN video review(SPOILERS): http://ps3.ign.com/dor/objects/14322170/aliens-vs-predator-2009/videos/avp_vdr_021610.html
Quote from: safetyman on Feb 16, 2010, 11:40:13 PM
I agree. Hopefully we can keep die hard CoD/Halo fans out of this game, spare us the headache of listening to "this game should have this and that".
Indeed. f**kem. Whiny little curs...
AvP is now the best selling games on steam, wow!
What a douche the guy in the review wanted new UNLOCKABLE ABILITES. For avp? Ever heard of balance? Btw im talking about the guy reviewing AVP from america IGN.
Quote from: Roargathor on Feb 16, 2010, 11:55:20 PM
Quote from: safetyman on Feb 16, 2010, 11:40:13 PM
I agree. Hopefully we can keep die hard CoD/Halo fans out of this game, spare us the headache of listening to "this game should have this and that".
Indeed. f**kem. Whiny little curs...
Yes, cuz we re the 3l1t3
Quote from: afrocat on Feb 17, 2010, 12:02:02 AM
What a douche the guy in the review wanted new UNLOCKABLE ABILITES. For avp? Ever heard of balance? Btw im talking about the guy reviewing AVP from america IGN.
I read the review of the original AvP for PC, they gave it an 8.2 because the predator was overpowered and the game wasn't balanced. Now there complaining because this game is more balanced?
I believe his complaint for Predator was when playing I felt underpowered. (WTF) And then he made a little quip but at least I have my cloak. He also said the aliens were slower I think...and did you read the Gamespy review(From the IGN network) They gave it a 2.5 out of 5 their review was almost as badly written as the Gameinformer one. http://xbox360.gamespy.com/xbox-360/aliens-vs-predator-2009/1069531p1.html I hate that whole network with their BS 360 bias. I cant believe he had the nerve to compare it to MW2..ugh.
IGN US (http://ps3.ign.com/articles/106/1069717p2.html) 7/10
Crave online: (I don't think there is a score..its still a review though)
http://www.craveonline.com/gaming/article/aliens-vs-predator-review-96501
Quote from: dude63 on Feb 17, 2010, 12:52:46 AM
Crave online: (I don't think there is a score..its still a review though)
http://www.craveonline.com/gaming/article/aliens-vs-predator-review-96501
In the last paragraph he described how difficult was to write this review. I think that's whats happening with other reviewers and why there is so much contrast between each other(going from 5.5 to 9 out of 10) . This game is not meant for everyone.
The Reviews are really all over the place. I guess it's a love, hate kind of game.
IGN and IGN give it great reviews, and I doubt bad reviews will stop the game from selling well.
Look at force unleashed. That game got medicore to average reviews, yet it was liked by fans of the star wars universe and it sold a good few million.
AND its getting a sequel. I really think the games gonna do good.
Quote from: QueenofDeath on Feb 17, 2010, 01:37:18 AM
Look at force unleashed. That game got medicore to average reviews, yet it was liked by fans of the star wars universe and it sold a good few million.
I liked the demo a lot! I sometimes think about buying it, but then think about how much replay value it would have. Reveiws are nothing, it is just about if it is fun to me.
GamesRadar (http://www.gamesradar.com/ps3/aliens-vs-predator/review/aliens-vs-predator/a-2010021617103939346314/g-200905211032241022) 8/10
Quote from: predalien27 on Feb 17, 2010, 01:49:36 AM
Quote from: QueenofDeath on Feb 17, 2010, 01:37:18 AM
Look at force unleashed. That game got medicore to average reviews, yet it was liked by fans of the star wars universe and it sold a good few million.
I liked the demo a lot! I sometimes think about buying it, but then think about how much replay value it would have. Reveiws are nothing, it is just about if it is fun to me.
ya force unleashed was fun but it had no replay value at all
I love me some gamesradar.
Gametrailers is taking their sweet time lol. I imagine it will be up before thursday. They might talk of it on invisible walls as Patrick took some eye to it.
Quote from: dude63 on Feb 17, 2010, 02:51:48 AM
Gametrailers is taking their sweet time lol. I imagine it will be up before thursday. They might talk of it on invisible walls as Patrick took some eye to it.
Them taking awhile is a good sign tho.
They probably plan to play the entire game before a review.
They are usually pretty fair about things.
Damn, IGN US came down pretty hard.
Quote from: psychoanomaly on Feb 17, 2010, 03:32:01 AM
Damn, IGN US came down pretty hard.
Not like GI and Gamespot did though. 7/10 is decent according to them.
7/10 is still a good score.
Quote from: QueenofDeath on Feb 17, 2010, 01:37:18 AM
Look at force unleashed. That game got medicore to average reviews, yet it was liked by fans of the star wars universe and it sold a good few million.
Look at the first Budokai game too, and the game did ok with reviews, but sold great. I just read GamesRadar's review, and the review is writen better then GS review if you ask me.
Quote from: Hellspawn28 on Feb 17, 2010, 04:00:42 AM
Quote from: QueenofDeath on Feb 17, 2010, 01:37:18 AM
Look at force unleashed. That game got medicore to average reviews, yet it was liked by fans of the star wars universe and it sold a good few million.
Look at the first Budokai game too, and the game did ok with reviews, but sold great. I just read GamesRadar's review, and the review is writen better then GS review if you ask me.
<_< true it did pretty good, but it took till #3 to make it great...still before the other 2 came out I loved me some Budokai :D
i didnt know what thread to put this in but
avp demo was the 3rd most played game on xbox live last week. ahead of BF BC2.
http://news.vgchartz.com/news.php?id=7072
I think the big reason it's not getting better reviews is because the reviewers are comparing it to MW2, which disgusts me. I can't believe this game is being compared to that trash.
Saw a review of AVP in the Herald Sun newspaper this morning, they gave it 4/5 and said its a very fun game, especially so for fans. I must admit, it was quite a surprise to flick through the paper and see a big screenshot of the Alien holding the civilian down to get facehugged right in the middle of the page ;D
Quote from: Big Head Ninja on Feb 17, 2010, 06:13:14 AM
Herald Sun
I'm glad they gave it a good score but
my goodness.
Quote from: MadassAlex on Feb 17, 2010, 06:21:44 AM
Quote from: Big Head Ninja on Feb 17, 2010, 06:13:14 AM
Herald Sun
I'm glad they gave it a good score but my goodness.
:D
Well it was powered by IGN, so I wonder if IGN AU's review will be similar. I've always found the AU branch of IGN to be the most accurate in terms of reviews.
Probably.
Copies of AvP3 sold within Australia make breakfast and give blowjobs, judging by the reviews.
Well, the more Australian servers the better.
http://www.gamesradar.com/xbox360/aliens-vs-predator/review/aliens-vs-predator/a-2010021616842217066/g-2009052110215111019
i hate gamespot avp gets 5.5 and MW2 gets 9
this is what they said about AVP the good
Three separate campaigns make for some variety Close-up kills are wonderfully gross Multiplayer can be good fun.
the bad
Awkward and inconsistent controls Poor level design Loaded with small but deadly flaws.
and MW2
the good
Intense, action-packed campaign Engaging cooperative missions Richer, deeper, more rewarding competitive multiplayer.
the bad
Campaign is short Plot is muddled and inelegant
So how can 1 get such a crappy score and the other so good? got me i love the avp game it has more variety than MW2(which i traded in for this game) they say AVP has poor level design?? umm MW2 levels are definatly nothing spectacular. (lets drive a skidoo down a path that is there is only 1 correct way to go.)
Quote from: darthmaul1 on Feb 17, 2010, 07:08:28 AM
i hate gamespot avp gets 5.5 and MW2 gets 9
this is what they said about AVP the good
Three separate campaigns make for some variety Close-up kills are wonderfully gross Multiplayer can be good fun.
the bad
Awkward and inconsistent controls Poor level design Loaded with small but deadly flaws.
and MW2
the good
Intense, action-packed campaign Engaging cooperative missions Richer, deeper, more rewarding competitive multiplayer.
the bad
Campaign is short Plot is muddled and inelegant
So how can 1 get such a crappy score and the other so good? got me i love the avp game it has more variety than MW2(which i traded in for this game) they say AVP has poor level design?? umm MW2 levels are definatly nothing spectacular. (lets drive a skidoo down a path that is there is only 1 correct way to go.)
Money.
Quote from: QueenofDeath on Feb 17, 2010, 01:27:27 AM
The Reviews are really all over the place. I guess it's a love, hate kind of game.
This i have been saying since the early previews. People will like it or hate it.
I think as far as the reviews go..... the game must 'technically' have some floors. If you looking for them I'm sure they'll be loads.
BUT
If you can fully immerse yourself in the game and ignore the not so pretty graphs ( i think there fine!!) and just put yourself in the game, so to speak, you'll love it.... despite the floors. So i think it depends what the review/gamer wants to do!!
Personaly i LOVE the atmosphere in the demo.... and the new ps3 demo has now got music while playing and it just grabs ya. Totally hooked!
Since I saw two or three Italain sites reviews here is the gamesvillage.it one: http://www.gamesvillage.it/news/reviews/detail%5Bn=20310%5D.html
It gives 7.2/10 for PC and X360 and 7.0/10 for PS3.
I'm desperately trying not to launch into an anti-metacritic rant. I really don't think it does the industry any good at all. My feeling is it rewards sameness and punishes stuff that's less mainstream, but I'll stop there.
We've made a game that some people love and some people hate, and that's fine really. It looks like enough people will love it so HUZZAH.
Nice to see that there are more positive reviews then negative, but still ong Gamespot the User Score is an avarage of 8. :)
now i gave this game a personal 7.5 outta 10, so i was somewhat critical.
my question is with gamespot, how in the HELL can you give dark void a 6.5, but this game a 5.5?
dark void is hampered by some serious framerate issues, clunky controls, subpar graphics, and a short AND thrown together storyline AND its only single player. WTF? makes no f**king sense. guess ol' capcom threw you guys some cash huh?
the marine campaign alone is more solid than dark void's entire experience.
Gamespot never was a very reliable reviewer site, especially after the Kane & Linch debacle the lost all cred for me at least.
Quote from: Moody on Feb 17, 2010, 10:00:39 AM
Gamespot never was a very reliable reviewer site, especially after the Kane & Linch debacle the lost all cred for me at least.
Yeah that was a joke. Dark Void had one of the worst demos I have ever played, it felt like an Xbox 1 game lol.
Quote from: ikarop on Feb 17, 2010, 02:14:02 AM
GamesRadar (http://www.gamesradar.com/ps3/aliens-vs-predator/review/aliens-vs-predator/a-2010021617103939346314/g-200905211032241022) 8/10
That's a good review.... i think that's the best I've read, it's very firm but hits the nail on the head and gets what the game is trying to achieve.
fcuk metacritic the avarage from all the reviews so far is 73%
Quote from: LogansFolly on Feb 17, 2010, 10:33:10 AM
fcuk metacritic the avarage from all the reviews so far is 73%
Yes, f**k metacritic and all the reviews incorporated in that gave it more than 73%...
CVG (http://www.computerandvideogames.com/article.php?id=235279) 8/10
Quote from: ikarop on Feb 17, 2010, 11:58:51 AM
CVG (http://www.computerandvideogames.com/article.php?id=235225) 8.2/10
Nice review. The con list is really short. :)
Quote from: Brother on Feb 17, 2010, 11:23:48 AM
Quote from: LogansFolly on Feb 17, 2010, 10:33:10 AM
fcuk metacritic the avarage from all the reviews so far is 73%
Yes, f**k metacritic and all the reviews incorporated in that gave it more than 73%...
metacritic score is 68%
The average from this page is around 73-74%
tw@t
It's 70. And when you say "f**k metacritic" you are saying f**k these - Playstation Official Magazine Australia, IGN UK, Gamers.at, Vandal Online, Gamervision, 3DJuegos, Meristation.
:'( after every review below 70
tw@t
Quote from: Brother on Feb 17, 2010, 12:25:01 PM
It's 70. And when you say "f**k metacritic" you are saying f**k these - Playstation Official Magazine Australia, IGN UK, Gamers.at, Vandal Online, Gamervision, 3DJuegos, Meristation.
:'( after every review below 70
tw@t
Whats 70..... ?
I'm not ignoring most of the high score metacritic is!!
Ign ratings side by side
(https://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg220.imageshack.us%2Fimg220%2F8413%2F36597022.png&hash=c05a43e3f148feb3d187208cdde07bea51bc5494)
So is that "decently great" or "greatly decent"?
I wonder what Xbox World 360 will think of this; wonderfully harsh mag that that is.
Has Xbox 360 suddenly become the only gaming platform out there?!!! >:( Almost all of the reviews that I have read so far have been for that platform. Could some one please also review the PC version of this game?! Or is that too much to ask? Or is this a no can do, because Microsoft has once again spread its money around and made sure that nearly all of the early reviews will be exclusively for Xbox 360?
http://www.metacritic.com/games/platforms/pc/aliensvspredator
I find the game's 360 metacritic score to be most amusing. ;D
Quote from: Drewid on Feb 17, 2010, 04:45:44 PM
http://www.metacritic.com/games/platforms/pc/aliensvspredator
My point exactly. Four reviews so far. :o >:(
Jeux Vidéos.com (French website): 12/20
http://www.jeuxvideo.com/forums/1-146-8807450-1-0-1-0-12-20-jv-com.htm
Graphics (12/20):
The Marine campaign make illusion to let us avoid details of the set, we notice everything when the light is on.
Random and without soul or variety, the environments are from dark tunnels to square jungle. It's hardly correct.
Gameplay (11/20):
The promise of three different gameplay is anticing and almost done. Almost because Marine's gameplay is prehistoric, Predator badly exploit due to the bad AI and the Alien screwed suffering from the same problem as the level design.
Life Spam (12/20):
Count ten hours to finish the Single Player. The Multi Player is funny and offer a bonus to this new title.
Sounds (14/20):
(Well it actually mention that French voice use in it sucks which might be right, I hope I'll be able to set the game in English or I'll be ****** off.) The soundtrack are correct, from the movies perhaps due to the fact Rebellion didn't have enough imagination.
Script (10/20):
(They just say it s*cks badly and it doesn't help the game.)
Overall (12/20):
3 species, 3 different gameplay but 3 time less developed. Every campaign has strong point but there are the same amount of weakness. The gameplay is outdated and good idea of Rebellion never come to an end. We came across the SP without pleasure and we're never enthusiast to the linear content it deserves.
About the Multi Player full of promises, it suffers from a true slow gameplay and a big problem of balance.
The Same site rated AVP in 1999 18/20 and AVP2 17/20.
Gamedaily (http://www.gamedaily.com/games/aliens-vs-predator/xbox-360/game-reviews/review/8721/2402/) 7/10
Honestly, it amazes me how many of these reviews are polar opposites of one another. Personally I'd rather have more consistency, whether it gets torn to shreds or praised up and down...
Not a review but the is a cool achievement guide.http://www.xbox360achievements.org/forum/showthread.php?t=208066 (http://www.xbox360achievements.org/forum/showthread.php?t=208066)
IGN America review 7/10
http://xbox360.ign.com/dor/objects/14322168/aliens-vs-predator-2009/videos/avp_vdr_021610.html
Its alllll personal opinions people. I agree with the UK review more than the American review. Seems like us yanks want pretty CoD games more than anything.
Hi everyone! I recently joined AVP Galaxy. I wanted to make a small contribution: Vandal Online (Spanish gaming website) gave AVP a 8.1
For those who want to check the review, you can click on the following link http://www.vandal.net/analisis/ps3/aliens-vs-predator/10165. The review is in Spanish, though :P
See you around, guys! Regards! ;D
I don't understand how people see metacritic like ZOMG. Its just a average. The game is getting fair to great reviews. Only 3 really bad scores for it. Plsu gt, 1up, giantbomb, angry joe (lol have not done their reviews yet. 1up is the one im really curious about.
I haven't played the new game yet since I'm waiting for the euro release so I play AvP2 in the meanwhile and guess what! The story isn't that great, the campaigns are short and the AI sucks.
From what I see the new AvP is like AvP2 with a bit different controls, better graphics and maybe (a bit) better AI.
For me and for fans whom were waiting for a new game featuring xenos and preds for 9 years this isn't a bad thing but for those who expected MW2 gameplay with Crysis graphics, engaging, complex storyline and *OMG* 'innovation' this game sucks badly because it probably plays like a game from late 90s hence the negative reviews.
People who complain about the lack of crouch and ironsights are completely miss the point though. When 4 xenos run at you, 1 on the ceiling 2 on the walls and one on the floor you won't have time to line up your sights and pick em off one by one, you will just spray'n'pray and hopefully hit them before they get too close. There's crouch in AvP2 but I only used it when I had to climb into airducts but I never ever used it during combat because it's just pointless against xenos and preds.
Another spanish website's review (yeah, I'm spanish): http://www.meristation.com/v3/des_analisis.php?id=cw4b79cda5e9b94&idj=cw49930192052d2&pic=PS3 (http://www.meristation.com/v3/des_analisis.php?id=cw4b79cda5e9b94&idj=cw49930192052d2&pic=PS3)
7.5/10
I feel like a really weird fan. All of you say how die-hard fans will love this game and how mainstream CoD/Halo fans will loath it.
Well, guess what - I'm a die-hard fan of the franchise(s) and never ever played Halo or CoD, yet the game is pretty decent, but still a failure in my opinion. Which category do I fit in?
There are no categories you have to fit in really. Just enjoy the game and forget about the negative reviews and what other people say on the internet.
Quote from: Puks on Feb 17, 2010, 08:50:01 PM
Which category do I fit in?
The 'we-get-it-you-don't-like-the-game-but-surely-you-can-allow-us-to-enjoy-it' category?
1UP (http://www.1up.com/do/reviewPage?cId=3177998&p=4) Score: D
Quote from: ikarop on Feb 18, 2010, 12:29:57 AM
1UP (http://www.1up.com/do/reviewPage?cId=3177998&p=4) Score: D
Too bad... :-\
i just looked at the gamestop website for no darn reason, they gave the game 10/10 i like that score lol.
It seems more and more like the positive reviews are multiple pages where as the negative ones are quite short, makes me wonder how many of them wrote this game off from the start.
Roll on GT and giant bomb!!!!!!!!! DO IT!!! Its kinda upsetting that the gt review isn't up yet. I mean I hope they don't delay it a month like they dod with their stalker reviews (lmao then they bash stalker cause its hard...)
Quote from: ikarop on Feb 18, 2010, 12:29:57 AM
1UP (http://www.1up.com/do/reviewPage?cId=3177998&p=4) Score: D
Another craptacular review. Surprisingly, he doesn't complain about the controls, just everything else. The amount of hate this game is getting is ridiculous.
Eh ignore it. It's just a opinion.
Quote from: ikarop on Feb 18, 2010, 12:29:57 AM
1UP (http://www.1up.com/do/reviewPage?cId=3177998&p=4) Score: D
Boooboo. Who cares really since I enjoy the game a lot, and I'm almost enjoy it more then Halo 3.
I was in awe of halo 3s multi at first. But then it kinda wore off. I hope avp does not.
Quote from: Hellspawn28 on Feb 18, 2010, 06:47:47 AM
Quote from: ikarop on Feb 18, 2010, 12:29:57 AM
1UP (http://www.1up.com/do/reviewPage?cId=3177998&p=4) Score: D
Boooboo. Who cares really since I enjoy the game a lot, and I'm almost enjoy it more then Halo 3.
Fair play to him for ripping into the online modes for being fun and something to pass the time. Why the hell else do you play video games if it's not to have fun and pass the time!!!!!!
And fancie a mode where all you do is shoot at aliens... i mean of all the stupid things to buy a game for!!
This bloke likes MAG as well. All his blogs are about MAG. I'll review mag for him......
ANOTHER standerd fair, sub-par shooter with the worst graphs i've seen in ages. ALL you can do is go online and waist your time shooting people for no reason. Shoot, death, blood, repeat.
There i was thinking video games are real life... if your a high rank on mag or cod or BBC then you could join the army because you THAT GOOD at fireing real guns.
Quote from: MadassAlex on Feb 17, 2010, 09:05:20 PM
Quote from: Puks on Feb 17, 2010, 08:50:01 PM
Which category do I fit in?
The 'we-get-it-you-don't-like-the-game-but-surely-you-can-allow-us-to-enjoy-it' category?
:D ;D :D ;D
You should add 7+/10 from CD-Action (Polish PC games mag). Kinda low, but they didn't get the chance to play the full multiplayer.
1UP dont know ****!
Quote from: Corporal Wilks on Feb 18, 2010, 10:47:49 AM
1UP dont know ****!
1up is the review i really do have most problem with. It's worse than game informa!!!
People forget it's a GAME!!
Quote from: LogansFolly on Feb 18, 2010, 10:50:28 AM
Quote from: Corporal Wilks on Feb 18, 2010, 10:47:49 AM
1UP dont know ****!
1up is the review i really do have most problem with. It's worse than game informa!!!
People forget it's a GAME!!
That kind of score they gave is reserved for games so bad that you get bored after two minutes. I still play the demo and love it when its only one map lol.
Empire review by the way: 4/5
http://www.empireonline.com/reviews/reviewcomplete.asp?GID=671
REMEMBER:
1 Review = 1 person's opinion. Nothing more...
QuoteIf there was ever a game deserving of the last movie's title -- Aliens vs. Predator: Requiem -- it's this one.
Lol, owned. :D
75% from 4players.de.
http://www.4players.de/4players.php/dispbericht_fazit/Allgemein/Test/Fazit_Wertung/Allgemein/15193/67273/Aliens_vs_Predator.html
Its a german site, so the review will not be online for long.
Its good, cause they dont donate scores. The only thing thats a bit suspect is, that all plattforms got 75%. Normally there are a few points more or less, depending on the plattform.
It got significant flaws. Its overall good, but it could be better. Fits my impressions.
I believe and hope, that the very bad reviews are mostly based on the consoleversions or reviewers suffering from typicall consoleshooters [halo/cod].
If you look at metacritic it seems so.
Would be funny, cause it primary was developt for consoles. ;D
Overall the personal taste is pretty important for this game, i think and you got to be a bit openminded.
I train my english and "try" to translate the pro/contra-list
Pro
solide Grafik - solid grapics
grandiose Soundeffekte - great soundeffects
Gänsehaut erregende Grusel-Atmosphäre - creepy atmosphere
präzise Steuerung - accurate controls
größtenteils unterhaltsame Mehrspielermodi - mostly entertaining multiplayermods
drei spielbare, sehr unterschiedliche Rassen - three really different playable races
spaßiger Survival-Modus - entertaining survival-mode
Sonstiges [les important]
teilweise sehr brutal - in some aspects really brutal
solide englische Sprachausgabe - soild english synchro
spärlicher, gezielter Einsatz von Musik -
Kontra
gelegentliches Ruckeln - sometimes it doesnt run smooth
schwache KI - weak AI
eingeschränkte Bewegung beim Marine - Rines are limited in movement (im happy, less arcady ;D)
unerwünschter Waffentausch beim Reload - unpleasent weaponschange by reloading
wenige, immergleiche Finishing Moves - repetitive finishing moves
schwache Alien- Kampagne - weak aliencampaign
Sonstiges [less important]
teilweise sehr brutal - in some aspects really brutal
zum Teil irre dunkel - sometimes too insanely dark
wenige Mehrspielerkarten - just a few multimaps
gewöhnungsbedürftige Alien- Steuerung - you have to get used to the aliencontrols
teilweise fummelige Sprungsteuerung (Predator) - jumpmechanic of predators are a bit clumsy
belanglose Headbite- Animationen (Alien) - head doesnt have any usefull effect
bescheuert: knopfbeißende Aliens - thats something i dont understand, even in german
"crackbrained buttonbiting aliens"
I like this sentence:
"Marines sind ihrer militärischen Ausbildung zum Trotz unfähig in Deckung zu gehen oder über Kimme und Korn zu zielen"
In deffiance of their military training, marines are unable to get in cover [crouch would be enough, i think and he probably think of that too] or aim with ironsight. ;D
Quote from: Big Head Ninja on Feb 17, 2010, 06:13:14 AM
Saw a review of AVP in the Herald Sun newspaper this morning, they gave it 4/5 and said its a very fun game, especially so for fans. I must admit, it was quite a surprise to flick through the paper and see a big screenshot of the Alien holding the civilian down to get facehugged right in the middle of the page ;D
:D :D
Whity review. Hes not a professional reviewer but he made a pretty good review.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=20coIHd4gPI&feature=sub
areagames.de (german) 7/10
Anyhow, i always read, that it isnt as good as COD, Gears of War and Halo. Yeah, nice games, but nothing totally mindblowin (like Deus Ex ;D). AVP is atleast something different.
Im pretty sure, many of the reviewers dont care about the PC Version and dont play much on the PC. Really...
Comparing it to other games is stupid. The only real comparison can be made with previous AvP titles.
AvP3 (yes, it's AvP THREE) is a decent game with a high fun factor for fans of the franchise(s), but unfortunately, it's not as good as its predecessors. Patches and DLC may upgrade the game somewhat, however, The Legends (AvP1 & 2) are still unbeaten.
Quote from: Puks on Feb 18, 2010, 08:50:46 PM
Comparing it to other games is stupid. The only real comparison can be made with previous AvP titles.
AvP3 (yes, it's AvP THREE) is a decent game with a high fun factor for fans of the franchise(s), but unfortunately, it's not as good as its predecessors. Patches and DLC may upgrade the game somewhat, however, The Legends (AvP1 & 2) are still unbeaten.
I think you can have a different opinion about that. Both games felt pretty much like a game - arcady anyhow. I really liked the rinecampaign and storyline of AVP2, but the MP seemed like a Quake3-mod with aliens and preds in it. With the AJL-Mod many things are better, but i still outdanced preds and aliens with bunnyhopp and blasted them with the shotgun. A good game. But really a game.
In AVP it still isnt really realistic, but it feels less like an arcady game and appear much more "real", so less like a game, more like the movies/reality.
Thats "just", how i feel about it, but even if the scores are less good, as the ones from the previous titles i prefer the new one for the experience.
Total Film gave AvP 4 stars out of 5. Seen it in the magazine in morrisons , its not reviewed online.
QuoteQuake3
I love that game. Insane pacing.
Yeah, doesn't work for an AvP game.
I think this game is a big improvement over the previous ones, but hey, to each his own.
I barely played the last ones so this is my into to the series basically.
Quote from: Puks on Feb 18, 2010, 08:50:46 PM
The Legends (AvP1 & 2) are still unbeaten.
The gameplay in this game really makes a fool of the previous two.
Quote from: MadassAlex on Feb 19, 2010, 12:39:43 AM
Quote from: Puks on Feb 18, 2010, 08:50:46 PM
The Legends (AvP1 & 2) are still unbeaten.
The gameplay in this game really makes a fool of the previous two.
Due to the balance correct?
Quote from: MadassAlex on Feb 19, 2010, 12:39:43 AM
Quote from: Puks on Feb 18, 2010, 08:50:46 PM
The Legends (AvP1 & 2) are still unbeaten.
The gameplay in this game really makes a fool of the previous two.
They drastically improved the predator they were never that fun in avp2 feeling like marines with power weapons and a cloak ability, i'd rarely be them . Aliens were also fairly boring in avp2 as pounce was their only way of really doing major damage. AVP 2010 just needs to improve their melee and make them quieter.
Quote from: afrocat on Feb 19, 2010, 12:55:45 AM
Due to the balance correct?
Partially due to the balance and partially due the alterations in gameplay mechanics to better suit the Aliens and the Predators.
G4TV (http://g4tv.com/games/pc/62189/aliens-vs-predator/review/) 2/5.
Giant bomb 2/5
http://www.giantbomb.com/aliens-vs-predator/61-26532/reviews/
Gametrailers review 7.7/10
http://www.gametrailers.com/video/review-aliens-vs/62073
Upon reading review a bulk of complaints are coming from bugs. I reckon the game will be more functionable when Rebellion/Sega releases a patch to fix numerous issues with the game. Look at flashpoint after ptaches the game is more functional. Granted avp is no way getting a load of horrible reviews (only 6 out of like 35) it is however mixed. This I belive is from how different and old school feel avp has. Its just different for this gen..and I think that why some people don't give it a chance.
Quote from: MadassAlex on Feb 19, 2010, 12:39:43 AM
Quote from: Puks on Feb 18, 2010, 08:50:46 PM
The Legends (AvP1 & 2) are still unbeaten.
The gameplay in this game really makes a fool of the previous two.
AVP2 and legend do not belong together. AVP1, yes.
Quote from: PRI. HUDSON on Feb 19, 2010, 03:01:01 AM
Quote from: MadassAlex on Feb 19, 2010, 12:39:43 AM
Quote from: Puks on Feb 18, 2010, 08:50:46 PM
The Legends (AvP1 & 2) are still unbeaten.
The gameplay in this game really makes a fool of the previous two.
AVP2 and legend do not belong together. AVP1, yes.
. . . You blasphemer.
I really enjoyed the GameTrailers review. One of the best so far I think in terms of a quality review.
G4TV rating any game as bad is a laughable thing. They are certifiable morons - They are the xbox achievement kid of the games industry.
(https://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimages.encyclopediadramatica.com%2Fimages%2Ff%2Ff3%2FXbawks2.png&hash=ae0b971e08482c4b3826f647e8ebddeb2471acb0)
gt has the best review so far.
I advice all those who depend reviews to see the gt review
http://www.gametrailers.com/video/review-aliens-vs/62073
That GT review was 100% spot on.
Quote from: PRI. HUDSON on Feb 19, 2010, 03:01:01 AM
Quote from: MadassAlex on Feb 19, 2010, 12:39:43 AM
Quote from: Puks on Feb 18, 2010, 08:50:46 PM
The Legends (AvP1 & 2) are still unbeaten.
The gameplay in this game really makes a fool of the previous two.
AVP2 and legend do not belong together. AVP1, yes.
I second that. AvP2 was an abomination.
Quote from: safetyman on Feb 19, 2010, 07:59:44 AM
G4TV rating any game as bad is a laughable thing. They are certifiable morons - They are the xbox achievement kid of the games industry.
http://images.encyclopediadramatica.com/images/f/f3/Xbawks2.png
compared to GamesVille - are they more or less moronic?
because GV was an insult.
Quote from: Eldritch on Feb 19, 2010, 08:31:34 AM
Quote from: PRI. HUDSON on Feb 19, 2010, 03:01:01 AM
Quote from: MadassAlex on Feb 19, 2010, 12:39:43 AM
Quote from: Puks on Feb 18, 2010, 08:50:46 PM
The Legends (AvP1 & 2) are still unbeaten.
The gameplay in this game really makes a fool of the previous two.
AVP2 and legend do not belong together. AVP1, yes.
I second that. AvP2 was an abomination.
Sure it was weaker imo than AvP1 because of the graphics, indestructible lights, weird animations, but a lot of people preferred it over AvP1 and I can see why - more weapons, an actual story, etc.
Calling it an abomination is overreacting - if I had to call any of the three AvP games an abomination, it'd be this one. And even that would be a totally over the top harsh statement.
Currently Gametrailers is the best reviewer out there, they are always spot on, never biased and they address both positive and negative aspects of the games they review.
Quote from: hardwired on Feb 18, 2010, 07:49:25 PM
75% from 4players.de.
bescheuert: knopfbeißende Aliens - thats something i dont understand, even in german
"crackbrained buttonbiting aliens"
i think he hasnt seen ALIEN 4 ...the szene with the freezing marine. ;D
I FOUND A NEW REVIEW!!!!
The Rag that is the 'Sun' newspaper give's the game 4/5 and a good two page picture in there something for the weekend bit!
From Kotaku
http://kotaku.com/5474927/aliens-vs-predator-review-too-human
Angry joe!
http://angryjoeshow.com/?p=6514
Quote from: BlackLord on Feb 19, 2010, 09:34:46 AM
Currently Gametrailers is the best reviewer out there, they are always spot on, never biased and they address both positive and negative aspects of the games they review.
Have always enjoyed gametrailers reviews for anything. out of all the sites I take seriously when it comes ot reviews..its gt. I have no idea why but I just respect them more than any other review site. Sure Shane may seem like a xbot..but its all in good fun lmao. Thats not to say I don't like ot her sites I just like GT's structure and overall style more.
I thought GT would give it a 8/10 or something around that rateing, well G4 reviews are ok, but I disargee with their reviews though.
Well GT gave it a 7.7, that's quite close to an 8...
It was a good review neverless, better then what Gamespot give it. GS is the same site that give games like Monster House for the GBA like a 8/10 afterall ::).
there is some nice words on avp in the latest game trailers invisible walls http://www.gametrailers.com/video/episode-95-invisible-walls/62144 (http://www.gametrailers.com/video/episode-95-invisible-walls/62144)SKIP TO THE LAST 7 MINUETS
It seems SEGA's advertising is taking place down here in Australia, Predator's on TV right now, brought to us by AVP ;D
How spoilery is the GT review? They seem to have a habit of giving away some of the best bits. :-\
Quote from: Big Head Ninja on Feb 20, 2010, 12:03:02 PM
It seems SEGA's advertising is taking place down here in Australia, Predator's on TV right now, brought to us by AVP ;D
Which ads were they showing? They're doing a similar thing here, Aliens last Thursday, Predator tomorrow.
Quote from: Drewid on Feb 20, 2010, 11:01:51 PM
Quote from: Big Head Ninja on Feb 20, 2010, 12:03:02 PM
It seems SEGA's advertising is taking place down here in Australia, Predator's on TV right now, brought to us by AVP ;D
Which ads were they showing? They're doing a similar thing here, Aliens last Thursday, Predator tomorrow.
Well if I was representing SEGA, I would be very quiet about this game. :-[
At first I couldn't believe that this game could be as bad as it is said to be in those reviews posted to this thread. However when I finally got the game and tried the predator campaign I realised that the game is exactly as bad as those reviews told us. The PC version feels like a very bad console port of a Playstation 1 game, and the predator feels more like a cloaked Wolverine than predator. :'(
Nicely done game Rebellion. (
NOT) ::) >:(
And by the way, I actually liked the demo, as it showed much promise. And yes, predator is my all time favorite alien hunter.
Quote from: MikkoM on Feb 21, 2010, 05:33:17 PM
Quote from: Drewid on Feb 20, 2010, 11:01:51 PM
Quote from: Big Head Ninja on Feb 20, 2010, 12:03:02 PM
It seems SEGA's advertising is taking place down here in Australia, Predator's on TV right now, brought to us by AVP ;D
Which ads were they showing? They're doing a similar thing here, Aliens last Thursday, Predator tomorrow.
Well if I was representing SEGA, I would be very quiet about this game. :-[
At first I couldn't believe that this game could be as bad as it is said to be in those reviews posted to this thread. However when I finally got the game and tried the predator campaign I realised that the game is exactly as bad as those reviews told us. The PC version feels like a very bad console port of a Playstation 1 game, and the predator feels more like a cloaked Wolverine than predator. :'(
Nicely done game Rebellion. (NOT) ::) >:(
And by the way, I actually liked the demo, as it showed much promise. And yes, predator is my all time favorite alien hunter.
Talk about completely over reacting ::), I think this game has come closest to capturing the feel of the predator than any of the ones before it without a doubt.
Also, a 6.5 from Destructoid:-
http://www.destructoid.com/review-aliens-vs-predator-164318.phtml#ext
Worth saying that I have not witnessed the same bad multiplayer he has, I also strongly diagree with the single player Predator comments.
http://www.destructoid.com/review-aliens-vs-predator-164318.phtml
This is best review I seen so far and its most fitting. I completely agree with everything he wrote.
Quote from: stemot on Feb 21, 2010, 08:50:59 PM
Talk about completely over reacting ::), I think this game has come closest to capturing the feel of the predator than any of the ones before it without a doubt.
Also, a 6.5 from Destructoid:-
http://www.destructoid.com/review-aliens-vs-predator-164318.phtml#ext
Worth saying that I have not witnessed the same bad multiplayer he has, I also strongly diagree with the single player Predator comments.
So you enjoyed the "epic and effective" :-[ shoulder cannon of the predator, which is not only very ineffective, but also runs out of energy very quickly and forces you to search for energy sources, while the marine`s primitive pistol has unlimited ammo? :o What a joke.
Also, I will of course try atleast the marine campaign and the multiplayer out, before giving this game my final player review (not in this thread), but so far it is not looking good for this game. >:(
"AVP2 and legend do not belong together. AVP1, yes."
Im guessing you are a huge fan of AvP R.
Any Alien fan with a focus on quality would love AvP 2.
AvP 3 however... AvP R of the avp games.
Quote from: MikkoM on Feb 21, 2010, 11:31:46 PM
Quote from: stemot on Feb 21, 2010, 08:50:59 PM
Talk about completely over reacting ::), I think this game has come closest to capturing the feel of the predator than any of the ones before it without a doubt.
Also, a 6.5 from Destructoid:-
http://www.destructoid.com/review-aliens-vs-predator-164318.phtml#ext
Worth saying that I have not witnessed the same bad multiplayer he has, I also strongly diagree with the single player Predator comments.
So you enjoyed the "epic and effective" :-[ shoulder cannon of the predator, which is not only very ineffective, but also runs out of energy very quickly and forces you to search for energy sources, while the marine`s primitive pistol has unlimited ammo? :o What a joke.
It's a one-hit-kill. :-\ Only thing it doesn't work against are sprinting Aliens, but that's for gameplay balancing.
Quote from: MikkoM on Feb 21, 2010, 11:31:46 PM
Quote from: stemot on Feb 21, 2010, 08:50:59 PM
Talk about completely over reacting ::), I think this game has come closest to capturing the feel of the predator than any of the ones before it without a doubt.
Also, a 6.5 from Destructoid:-
http://www.destructoid.com/review-aliens-vs-predator-164318.phtml#ext
Worth saying that I have not witnessed the same bad multiplayer he has, I also strongly diagree with the single player Predator comments.
So you enjoyed the "epic and effective" :-[ shoulder cannon of the predator, which is not only very ineffective, but also runs out of energy very quickly and forces you to search for energy sources, while the marine`s primitive pistol has unlimited ammo? :o What a joke.
Also, I will of course try atleast the marine campaign and the multiplayer out, before giving this game my final player review (not in this thread), but so far it is not looking good for this game. >:(
Ineffective? Are we playing the same game? Charge it up and it kills with one hit. The marine pistol has unlimited ammo because it is his last line of defence seeing as how he has no real melee as such. So yes, I enjoyed it a lot, and you need to learn the tools of the game properly before giving any kind of review.
Quote from: -mimic- on Feb 22, 2010, 12:10:57 AM
"AVP2 and legend do not belong together. AVP1, yes."
Im guessing you are a huge fan of AvP R.
Any Alien fan with a focus on quality would love AvP 2.
AvP 3 however... AvP R of the avp games.
Any fan with half a desire for semi decent AI and visuals that fit the subject matter or even good level design would rather play the superior AVP3.
Quote from: stemot on Feb 22, 2010, 06:49:14 AM
Any fan with half a desire for semi decent AI and visuals that fit the subject matter or even good level design would rather play the superior AVP3.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HOaTkBguS94
And I didn't mind the visuals. Sure, it all looked more cartoonish or like a comicbook, but it reminded me of the actual AvP comics. Also, it had a good story and narrative, that was much more enjoyable than AvP3's.
The AvP comics are generally poor enough that recounting them isn't an experience too many want during a game experience.
One instance of the AI messing up doesn't undo the great Alien AI, especially when the game you're comparing it to was a step backwards in comparison to AvP'99.
AvP2's story wasn't so much better, it's just that the environments are much more co-dependent than AvP3's. AvP3 has a sort of linear progression that screams "VIDEO GAME", whereas AvP2 has a more believable setup that doesn't climax in one location in particular, but progresses more logically.
The thing that really sets AvP2 apart is the setup. A lot of stories (including AvP3) are just "HUR DUR RANDOMLY WE FOUND ALEENS". AvP2 actually thought about this and used the Pilot's telemetry from Acheron as a basis for finding LV-1201.
Quote from: MadassAlex on Feb 22, 2010, 07:12:13 AM
One instance of the AI messing up doesn't undo the great Alien AI
Sadly, it didn't appear that great to me. There were too many times I could simply block an Alien attack, counter and shoot them to bits. Maybe the AI is decent, but Rebellion ruined the experience by giving the Marine the ability to effortlessly knock an Alien to the floor. The whole sense of dread and fear is gone.
You're supposed to keep Aliens at a distance, because once they close in, it's almost certain death. But now you'd want to actually engage them in close combat, because it makes things so much easier.
Quote from: Dusk on Feb 22, 2010, 07:17:39 AM
Sadly, it didn't appear that great to me. There were too many times I could simply block an Alien attack, counter and shoot them to bits. Maybe the AI is decent, but Rebellion ruined the experience by giving the Marine the ability to effortlessly knock an Alien to the floor. The whole sense of dread and fear is gone.
You're supposed to keep Aliens at a distance, because once they close in, it's almost certain death. But now you'd want to actually engage them in close combat, because it makes things so much easier.
Well, that has absolutely nothing to do with the AI.
Either way, the solution to that is to turn up the difficulty. On hard mode, counter attacks buy you much less time and Aliens are far more resilient. Plus they deal more damage and behave more intelligently. You don't get the prompts, either, so you actually have to read their moves and react under your own initiative. Hard mode is the way to play the game and have the proper experience.
Quote from: MadassAlex on Feb 22, 2010, 07:25:50 AM
Quote from: Dusk on Feb 22, 2010, 07:17:39 AM
Sadly, it didn't appear that great to me. There were too many times I could simply block an Alien attack, counter and shoot them to bits. Maybe the AI is decent, but Rebellion ruined the experience by giving the Marine the ability to effortlessly knock an Alien to the floor. The whole sense of dread and fear is gone.
You're supposed to keep Aliens at a distance, because once they close in, it's almost certain death. But now you'd want to actually engage them in close combat, because it makes things so much easier.
Well, that has absolutely nothing to do with the AI.
Either way, the solution to that is to turn up the difficulty. On hard mode, counter attacks buy you much less time and Aliens are far more resilient. Plus they deal more damage and behave more intelligently. You don't get the prompts, either, so you actually have to read their moves and react under your own initiative. Hard mode is the way to play the game and have the proper experience.
Agreed. By the end of the campaign for Marine I was completely exhausted. I got killed so many times.
http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/uk-charts-avp-is-the-new-leader
LOLz
I never really felt menaced by standardaliens. Insteed of more HP i would like them being more aggressive (run to you insteed of slowly circling on walls) and fast (using the sprint?) and less blockable (I really like marines, but I think they should be less effective in close range, besides normally a rine cant block a alien or pred attack, it looks ridicilious).
It was pretty terrifying in AVP2, if the aliens run trough a hallway in notime and you were screwed if they reached you.
The game isnt really scary at all.
But I really enjoy playing as pred and the temples were pretty atmospheric.
So the total opposite of playin them in AVP2.
Quote from: Spic on Feb 22, 2010, 12:15:53 PM
http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/uk-charts-avp-is-the-new-leader
LOLz
That increases the chance of good support. :)
Quote from: Spic on Feb 22, 2010, 12:15:53 PM
http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/uk-charts-avp-is-the-new-leader
LOLz
"The game has become the fastest-seller of the year." -Normally I'd laugh given that it's only February, but that's actually pretty damn good given that we've had some very big hitters already in 2010 with Bioshock 2, Mass Effect 2 and Bayonetta. I wish they'd show the actual figures though...
I'll join Hardwired in hoping that this means we'll see mod tools and a comprehensive patching scheme.
Quote from: hardwired on Feb 22, 2010, 12:16:34 PM
I never really felt menaced by standardaliens. Insteed of more HP i would like them being more aggressive (run to you insteed of slowly circling on walls) and fast (using the sprint?) and less blockable (I really like marines, but I think they should be less effective in close range, besides normally a rine cant block a alien or pred attack, it looks ridicilious).
Less durable, more predictable movement and no blockability? So basically you want them to be your standard FPS melee-enemy cannon fodder?
I can't believe you don't find these critters more scary than AvP2's. When you're in a major fight, and get swarmed, the time it takes you to nail one alien gives two more the chance to engage you in melee, and you can only block them one at a time (not to mention that it's time you can't spend shooting). The tricky nature of their movement makes them that bit more menacing, enemies who just run straight into your shotgun aren't terribly frightening or formidable.
Not to mention that they're far more powerful than AvP2's bugs as well as vastly more durable. If you get swamped, it's game over.
Yeah, the Aliens gave me a lot of cause for concern.
In AvP2 especially, they were scary until you had them in your sights - then they were just fodder. These ones aren't so scary if you can draw a bead on them and keep the fire coming, but it's so easy to lose them that they often get plenty of chances to retreat into the darkness and come around for another strike.
On hard mode, especially, Aliens are absolutely brutal enemies. I rarely died to anything else - it was just those goddamned nigh-invincible Aliens and their combos of doom.
I'm playing on hard now, and I admit it's tougher. Although I mostly died now from misplaced grenades. Btw, I don't buy the excuse anymore that iron sights aren't needed anymore because of the fast gameplay. There were tons of moments, even now on hard, where I could've placed well aimed head shots, if I would've been able to aim with the iron sights for a second. I can barely see the crosshairs in the game.
Quote from: MikkoM on Feb 21, 2010, 05:33:17 PM
Quote from: Drewid on Feb 20, 2010, 11:01:51 PM
Quote from: Big Head Ninja on Feb 20, 2010, 12:03:02 PM
It seems SEGA's advertising is taking place down here in Australia, Predator's on TV right now, brought to us by AVP ;D
Which ads were they showing? They're doing a similar thing here, Aliens last Thursday, Predator tomorrow.
Well if I was representing SEGA, I would be very quiet about this game. :-[
At first I couldn't believe that this game could be as bad as it is said to be in those reviews posted to this thread. However when I finally got the game and tried the predator campaign I realised that the game is exactly as bad as those reviews told us. The PC version feels like a very bad console port of a Playstation 1 game, and the predator feels more like a cloaked Wolverine than predator. :'(
Nicely done game Rebellion. (NOT) ::) >:(
And by the way, I actually liked the demo, as it showed much promise. And yes, predator is my all time favorite alien hunter.
''VERY BAD PORT OF A PS 1 GAME''
That's just a stupid thing to write. Com on now be sensible in your criticism at least. ;)
Quote from: Vertigo on Feb 22, 2010, 01:00:53 PM
Quote from: Spic on Feb 22, 2010, 12:15:53 PM
http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/uk-charts-avp-is-the-new-leader
LOLz
"The game has become the fastest-seller of the year." -Normally I'd laugh given that it's only February, but that's actually pretty damn good given that we've had some very big hitters already in 2010 with Bioshock 2, Mass Effect 2 and Bayonetta. I wish they'd show the actual figures though...
I'll join Hardwired in hoping that this means we'll see mod tools and a comprehensive patching scheme.
Quote from: hardwired on Feb 22, 2010, 12:16:34 PM
I never really felt menaced by standardaliens. Insteed of more HP i would like them being more aggressive (run to you insteed of slowly circling on walls) and fast (using the sprint?) and less blockable (I really like marines, but I think they should be less effective in close range, besides normally a rine cant block a alien or pred attack, it looks ridicilious).
Less durable, more predictable movement and no blockability?
So basically you want them to be your standard FPS melee-enemy cannon fodder?
No, they still should be durable, but if they were so fast (They never seem to sprint), as i wished they would be probaly unstopable with the hitpoints from the hardmode.
I can't believe you don't find these critters more scary than AvP2's. When you're in a major fight, and get swarmed, the time it takes you to nail one alien gives two more the chance to engage you in melee, and you can only block them one at a time (not to mention that it's time you can't spend shooting).
I cant believe the opposite. It was too easy to handle one alien in melee. After all i dont like the strong defense of the rines. I want to be DOOMED ;D, if an alien or pred is allready attacking me and die faster cause the acid.
In that way they are more terrifying and it looks silly compared to the movies, if a human block and specially knock a pred or alien down. ??? God knows, even in MP its not that hard to manage them.
They often dont even reach me (thats maybe, cause Im not bad with the rine).
And I dont like it, if the primary meleeattack that works against me are sneakattacks, but i generally hate them, cause you can use them as normal onebuttonkill, if you manage to get behind an enemy, you are allready fighting in melee for some time. So you annul the melee => abuse.
The tricky nature of their movement makes them that bit more menacing, enemies who just run straight into your shotgun aren't terribly frightening or formidable.
Not to mention that they're far more powerful than AvP2's bugs as well as vastly more durable. If you get swamped, it's game over.
They maybe shouldnt run straight to me, but to me and much faster, if i allready shoot at them. Sometimes there were some aliens on a wall/tree/etc. running in circles and i only had to shoot them down. Thats not terrifying but boring and just looks silly . So if you make them acting like that way, they should be still effective and fast and no easy target.
Often they manage some cool manovers, but mostly they made it easy to shoot them.
They just shouldnt act stupid and let me shoot them without any effort.
And I prefer fast aliens, about alien"tanks".
Overall i like the SP and specially the MP. But i hope the stealthkill gets a fix and the rine less effective meleecombat.
They can be improved in other ways, but I think, if one race has to be underpowered/one shouldnt be overpowered -> the marines. Rines shouldnt play the leading part.
And Im playin rines as most or even more then preds (aliens rarely).
Quote from: Dusk on Feb 22, 2010, 02:53:00 PM
I'm playing on hard now, and I admit it's tougher. Although I mostly died now from misplaced grenades. Btw, I don't buy the excuse anymore that iron sights aren't needed anymore because of the fast gameplay. There were tons of moments, even now on hard, where I could've placed well aimed head shots, if I would've been able to aim with the iron sights for a second. I can barely see the crosshairs in the game.
Yeah. But i missed crouch more. So many times, i could get in cover, be less visible and/or hittable and just do it, cause i felt it would be right (as rine and often as pred too).
A action or conditions that improve the accuracy would be great. Maybe by crouching and standig still (there are many moments it isnt more dangerous then running around).
In SP Im ok, cause i finished it mostly. But if i think about the MP and no crouch Im a bit angry.
Quote from: LogansFolly on Feb 22, 2010, 03:22:02 PM
''VERY BAD PORT OF A PS 1 GAME''
That's just a stupid thing to write. Com on now be sensible in your criticism at least. ;)
Well that is what the game feels like, at least as far as game mechanics are concerned. As a predator why do you have to "interact" with something that you will only destroy anyway? This could have been done by using just the predator's light/heavy attack or weapons. Why there seems to be inconsistent limitations in the predator's jumping ability? Why does the so called "jungle" seem like a narrow tube from a Playstation 1 game? Why is the marine AI so stupid and unaware of its surroundings? Why are there object markers flashing on the screen every other minute? (Does Rebellion really think that players are idiots?) And so on.
Quote from: stemot on Feb 22, 2010, 06:49:14 AM
Ineffective? Are we playing the same game? Charge it up and it kills with one hit. The marine pistol has unlimited ammo because it is his last line of defence seeing as how he has no real melee as such. So yes, I enjoyed it a lot, and you need to learn the tools of the game properly before giving any kind of review.
So the technologically advanced predator has what? One or two deadly shots that it can fire before its weapon runs out of energy, and you have to search for some stupid energy sources? Meanwhile the not so advanced marine has a pistol that uses bullets, and it has unlimited ammo? ::) Very intelligent game design. :-[
Anyway, this whole problem could have easily been avoided if the predator`s energy level would have functioned like in the first AVP game, and the marine pistol wouldn`t have had unlimited ammo.
Quote from: MikkoM on Feb 22, 2010, 05:47:31 PM
So the technologically advanced predator has what? One or two deadly shots that it can fire before its weapon runs out of energy, and you have to search for some stupid energy sources? Meanwhile the not so advanced marine has a pistol that uses bullets, and it has unlimited ammo? ::) Very intelligent game design. :-[
Anyway, this whole problem could have easily been avoided if the predator`s energy level would have functioned like in the first AVP game, and the marine pistol wouldn`t have had unlimited ammo.
Or it has a spear that uses no energy that functions much the same way, or a disc that can be guided in mid-air. There's nothing stupid about having to charge your energy, stupid would be the way the second game handled it by giving you a portable charger which basically meant no energy (read ammo) depletion at all, and no consequence for constantly using one of his most powerful weapons. Hell, he even charges in the 2nd movie in the lightning. It is actually very good game design to force you to manage your energy supply, thus using other weapons at different points. Bad game design would be the way the second game handled it. Like I said, the reason the marine is given unlimited ammo is because he does not have melee attacks to resort to when he runs out of ammo like the Predator does. What are they supposed to do, let you carry on without a chance of getting 4 yards after running out of ammo, or maybe have a marine get in a fistfight with the aliens and predators just so he can have limited pistol ammo. I know which I prefer. As far as game design choices are concerned, the pred does not need an unlimited source of ammunition for his most powerful weapon, the marine does for his weakest.
Don't know if this review has been posted, but I agree with it 100%.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yVLgNkL9kpA
Quote from: Ferno on Feb 22, 2010, 06:33:24 PM
Don't know if this review has been posted, but I agree with it 100%.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yVLgNkL9kpA
Disagreed with his points about the music (I thought is fit the game brilliantly), thought his points about having to learn 3 sets of controls for 3 completely different species was a little picky and completely disagree with the view of mundane multiplayer. I agree with him on the marine voice overs though, but that's about it.
No wonder the game is tougher now, I mostly fighting versus 3 Aliens with nothing but my handgun.
Yahtzee seems to be enjoying at least some of it!
http://twitter.com/yahtzeecroshaw
Quote from: TJ Doc on Feb 23, 2010, 01:38:40 PM
Yahtzee seems to be enjoying at least some of it!
http://twitter.com/yahtzeecroshaw
i`m hoping he`ll do a zero punctuation on it... critical or not, he`s always enjoyable :)
My review is up! http://www.avpgalaxy.net/games/aliens-vs-predator-2010/review/
Quote from: Corporal Hicks on Feb 23, 2010, 02:47:43 PM
My review is up! http://www.avpgalaxy.net/games/aliens-vs-predator-2010/review/
I can't read it at work what score did you give it, just so i know?
7/10. Wasn't higher due to weak Aliens campaign, lack of maps in standard retail edition and multiplayer system that could do with a bit of patching. I raved about everything else. In particular I loved the atmosphere of the marine campaign, I loved the backstory in the Predator campaign and I love how well it works on the controllers.
Quote from: S.Y.L on Feb 23, 2010, 02:30:56 PM
Quote from: TJ Doc on Feb 23, 2010, 01:38:40 PM
Yahtzee seems to be enjoying at least some of it!
http://twitter.com/yahtzeecroshaw
i`m hoping he`ll do a zero punctuation on it... critical or not, he`s always enjoyable :)
QFT. I rate him pretty highly as a critic as well. I find myself agreeing with him much more often than not.
Fantastic write-up Hicks :).
Added a bunch of reviews to the 1st page. Also another interview.
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I loled so hard!
Not sure if this was posted on here yet or not, I couldn't find it, but Game informers podcast is up and they talk in depth about AVP and why they reviewed it the way they did. One of the other reviewers said he didn't agree with the low score that was given in the magazine etc etc. It's a good listen, and I agree with a lot of the points they make.
Give it a listen:
http://itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/the-game-informer-show/id335246945
It's episode #17. 2/18/10 They talk about another game first, then AvP.
P.S. If that link doesn't work just search for "The Game Informer Show" in iTunes.
Quote from: Corporal Hicks on Feb 23, 2010, 02:57:40 PM
7/10.
I rest my case about the quality of this game. Even a fan site moderator only gives it 7/10! :o
Which is a good score. :)
Quote from: TJ Doc on Feb 23, 2010, 11:35:05 PM
Which is a good score. :)
Depends, some consider a 5 average, some consider a 7 average. I personally expected to see at least an 8 considering how positive the review seemed.
QuoteDepends, some consider a 5 average, some consider a 7 average.
And that is something that has always bugged me. In fact I'm honestly beginning to wish that concluding number scores are abolished from future reviews. The
real score lies within the reviewer's writing... but so many people seem to disregard the thousand words they've just read through in favor of a digit!
The overall score isn't really an indication of where the quality lies. An actual review will help you see what aspects of the game are powerful and which ones are weak. Even a 6/10 game can be golden to you depending on what you value in a game.
Gamespot gave Twilight Princess a score of less than 6. Either they're mad or I am, because that game was pretty consistently brilliant.
Quote from: MadassAlex on Feb 24, 2010, 12:40:39 AM
The overall score isn't really an indication of where the quality lies. An actual review will help you see what aspects of the game are powerful and which ones are weak. Even a 6/10 game can be golden to you depending on what you value in a game.
Exactly!
QuoteGamespot gave Twilight Princess a score of less than 6.
No way. You can't be serious! :D
MSNBC video review
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/30501433/vp/35527338#35527338
Gave it an 8/10
Quote from: PRI. HUDSON on Feb 24, 2010, 05:47:15 AM
MSNBC video review
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/30501433/vp/35527338#35527338
Gave it an 8/10
I'm glad this game is getting the attention it is, might send a message to SEGA that the next one could use some extra funding, Not to mention getting CM released.
Funny how the MSNBC review said the Predator was overpowered yet the IGN review stated the Predator as being underpowered. Also I have to laugh at any game reviewer who says this has a steep learning curve, try playing EVE.
Quote from: PRI. HUDSON on Feb 24, 2010, 05:47:15 AM
MSNBC video review
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/30501433/vp/35527338#35527338
Gave it an 8/10
Another good score that won't be added to meta-shite. ::)
Quote from: MadassAlex on Feb 24, 2010, 12:40:39 AM
The overall score isn't really an indication of where the quality lies. An actual review will help you see what aspects of the game are powerful and which ones are weak. Even a 6/10 game can be golden to you depending on what you value in a game.
Gamespot gave Twilight Princess a score of less than 6. Either they're mad or I am, because that game was pretty consistently brilliant.
No they didn't: http://www.gamespot.com/wii/action/thelegendofzelda/index.html?tag=result;title;1
http://www.metacritic.com/games/platforms/wii/legendofzeldatwilightprincess
Gave it an 8.8
Quote from: MikkoM on Feb 23, 2010, 11:19:24 PM
I rest my case about the quality of this game. Even a fan site moderator only gives it 7/10! :o
Actually, if you read the review, you'll find I really enjoyed the game. I didn't give it higher due to one weak campaign and some dodgy aspects of multiplayer. And I can agree with getting rid of actual scores. Might get people to actually read through it all.
Quote from: MikkoM on Feb 23, 2010, 11:19:24 PM
Quote from: Corporal Hicks on Feb 23, 2010, 02:57:40 PM
7/10.
I rest my case about the quality of this game. Even a fan site moderator only gives it 7/10! :o
It's an opinion dude.... just because YOU don't think its very good. I (and many others on this FANS site) do!
If you don't want to see threw the faults, which every game has to a lesser or certain degree, Then the game is lacking.
What is your fav game of all time i ask?
since when is 7/10 a bad thing?
a game has to be reviewed and scored on it's whole, any poor elements brings the whole game down. like the poor alien SP.
But does that mean that the marine or the multiplayer is any less fun or well-made? just because the totally unrelated alien SP was lackluster?
I remember when Tekken 6 was released on console, everyone slammed the SP 3D beat em up campaign, giving the game much lower score, however, the actual core vs gameplay was as strong as ever, yet because one poor mode the whole game score was lowered.
As long as I have fun in multiplayer, I am happy with my purchase. But I understand the game has some weak spots that should have been sorted out.
Quote from: LogansFolly on Feb 24, 2010, 01:18:33 PM
It's an opinion dude.... just because YOU don't think its very good. I (and many others on this FANS site) do!
If you don't want to see threw the faults, which every game has to a lesser or certain degree, Then the game is lacking.
What is your fav game of all time i ask?
Well it is hard to name a specific favorite, but I will name a few:
Half Life 2, Medieval I and II (+rest of the Total War series games), Master Of Orion 2, Mafia, the first two AVP games (although I must admit it has been awhile when I last played AVP2), GTA series.
And yes it is hard to accept that this game only deserves scores like 7/10 when you think about the potential that the idea behind the AVP games has, and the success and quality of the two previous AVP games. AVP1 and two are already old games, but in my opinion, despite their age, they still wipe the floor with this game.
The way I see it, all that this new AVP offers us is blood and updated graphics, but those two things alone just don`t make this into a good game. Especially when a game has as many flaws as this one has.
and that is all fine, because that is your opinion, just like in my opinion, I enjoy this game, I think the melee mechanic is very fun- and just because I believe the predator's melee is slightly too strong, doesn't undermine actual mechanic.
And just like the games you mentioned as your favorite, doesn't make them so to others. I just can't get into the GTA series, I've never been able to finish any one of those games, I get bored by the repetitive drive to and from quest. But that is my opinion, and shouldn't diminish your fun you have with the game.
Well hopefully all of this critical feed back will increase the fun that we can all have with a possible AVP sequel. ;)
Agreed!
Regardless of what anyone thinks about the game, we all have some issues with certain things, and if Rebellion fixes those issues, then I'm sure we'll have an even better game.
Quote from: RidgeTop on Feb 24, 2010, 08:00:48 AM
Quote from: PRI. HUDSON on Feb 24, 2010, 05:47:15 AM
MSNBC video review
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/30501433/vp/35527338#35527338
Gave it an 8/10
I'm glad this game is getting the attention it is, might send a message to SEGA that the next one could use some extra funding, Not to mention getting CM released.
Funny how the MSNBC review said the Predator was overpowered yet the IGN review stated the Predator as being underpowered. Also I have to laugh at any game reviewer who says this has a steep learning curve, try playing EVE.
The Predator wouldn't be overpower if for one thing:
that Goddamned disc.
Still not as cheap as it was in AVP2.
True that. But still stands out than all the weapons in the game.
More reviews added to the 1st page. Excellent scores this time.
I really enjoyed the Escapist review. It really said what I feel about the game. If you break the game down by it's parts and rate each part on how it stacks up to other titles, then it will be a low score. Yet, despite all that, the game is amazingly fun and is alot more than the sum of it's parts.
Yeah, I just looked at that Escapist review, and apart from saying the graphics are shitty (though I believe the x-box version runs on the PC equivalent of "Normal" Graphics settings so running in "very high" is bound to be better) I agree with pretty much everything that was said. The comments on the review from general gamers are actually quite encouraging as well. Makes some nice reading when your used to coming here and seeing the game get ripped a new one.
I think the game looks very pretty on the PC.
i dont know if this is posted already but it's not listed there
http://www.allegedly-speaking.com/reviews/avp_review.htm 9/10
Quote from: Drewid on Feb 15, 2010, 10:17:28 PM
Quote from: Jumbik on Feb 15, 2010, 09:40:23 PM
Graphics ... Im still playing original UFO for the atmosphere. No prob for me.
Hahaa. Like I said.
Quote from: Drewid on Feb 15, 2010, 06:55:53 PM
... classics that people still play 15 years later,...
Sorry I'm late, I'm still catching up, but did I read that correctly? You worked on X-Com? =00=
must...not...derail...thread.
Quote from: Ersca on Feb 25, 2010, 09:21:33 PM
i dont know if this is posted already but it's not listed there
http://www.allegedly-speaking.com/reviews/avp_review.htm 9/10
Little generous. 20/20 gameplay? 20/20 story?
Quote from: PRI. HUDSON on Feb 25, 2010, 09:47:19 PM
Quote from: Ersca on Feb 25, 2010, 09:21:33 PM
i dont know if this is posted already but it's not listed there
http://www.allegedly-speaking.com/reviews/avp_review.htm 9/10
Little generous. 20/20 gameplay? 20/20 story?
That was a bit on the high side ::)
Whatever the guy was smoking, I want some of it.
Story 20/20
Gameplay 20/20
What the f**k am I reading.
Alice in wonderland.
Quote from: Dusk on Feb 25, 2010, 09:55:24 PM
Whatever the guy was smoking, I want some of it.
Yeah, I enjoyed the campaign after three bongs, but that guy must've had some REALLY GOOD shit. ;D
Quote from: Porkus Maximus on Feb 25, 2010, 09:58:16 PM
Story 20/20
Gameplay 20/20
What the f**k am I reading.
LOL agreed.
Quote from: Tequila on Feb 25, 2010, 09:45:13 PM
Quote from: Drewid on Feb 15, 2010, 10:17:28 PM
Quote from: Jumbik on Feb 15, 2010, 09:40:23 PM
Graphics ... Im still playing original UFO for the atmosphere. No prob for me.
Hahaa. Like I said.
Quote from: Drewid on Feb 15, 2010, 06:55:53 PM
... classics that people still play 15 years later,...
Sorry I'm late, I'm still catching up, but did I read that correctly? You worked on X-Com? =00=
must...not...derail...thread.
Um, yes? :-\
Quote from: Drewid on Feb 26, 2010, 08:41:36 AM
Quote from: Tequila on Feb 25, 2010, 09:45:13 PM
Quote from: Drewid on Feb 15, 2010, 10:17:28 PM
Quote from: Jumbik on Feb 15, 2010, 09:40:23 PM
Graphics ... Im still playing original UFO for the atmosphere. No prob for me.
Hahaa. Like I said.
Quote from: Drewid on Feb 15, 2010, 06:55:53 PM
... classics that people still play 15 years later,...
Sorry I'm late, I'm still catching up, but did I read that correctly? You worked on X-Com? =00=
must...not...derail...thread.
Um, yes? :-\
Sorry, I'm such a fangirl, I used x-com as an example in my degree thesis, I've got some questions, I'll PM you if that;s OK?
A real life Tequila!!! :)
Anyway, I see lots of solid scores on that front page. Seems like the lowest scores came from the big time reviewers, who in my opinion, are just 1 opinion at a time.
http://www.ps3center.net/article/388/2/pcn-review-aliens-vs-predator/ 8.0/10
Made a little investigation of the scores vs numbers so far. (AvPgalaxy -> worthplaying reviews).
First i converted them all to percent. And was gonna do a chart but i don't have excel. :-\
First number range is score in percent, second is number of scores within this area.
I find it interesting that the second largest meridian (or what the statistical peak in a graph is called) is in the 80-84 range.
Here are the results:
95-100 None
90-94 6
85-89 8
80-84 17
75-79 6
70-74 22
65-69 6
60-64 12
55-59 2
50-54 2
45-49 None
40-44 3
40 was the lowest score in percent of all the reviews.
Made this as a statistical curiousity.
EDIT: Oh and i made it because the total average doesn't always give the best picture of a score fractal.
EDIT 2: Don't wanna double post so i'll just edit this in. One thing i've wondered about with AvP reviews is how have the consoles separately vs PC succeeded? Is it possible/or could someone break the reviews up into platforms and have a similar table or graph set side by side for comparison? It's probably a lot to ask but if it should be asked somewhere i think this is the place.. :P
Don't know if this has been posted yet, but damn, this review is harsh.
http://www.crispygamer.com/gamereviews/2010-03-08/aliens-vs-predator-pc.aspx
Quote from: DoomRulz on Mar 08, 2010, 09:53:16 PM
Don't know if this has been posted yet, but damn, this review is harsh.
http://www.crispygamer.com/gamereviews/2010-03-08/aliens-vs-predator-pc.aspx
He makes a few good points like the campaign's are too short and you're vulnerable while stealth/trophy killing someone but nothing we didnt already know. I personally love this game I do agree that the campaigns are too short but thats the only complaint I have, it seems only really hardcore AVP fans will like it. He even said the kill moves sucked ?!?! they are the most badass thing ive ever seen in a video game. I dont care what any of these douche reviewers say its a good game in my book.
Quote from: DoomRulz on Mar 08, 2010, 09:53:16 PM
Don't know if this has been posted yet, but damn, this review is harsh.
http://www.crispygamer.com/gamereviews/2010-03-08/aliens-vs-predator-pc.aspx
"So where was I? Hmm. The weapons suck,
the enemies are too tough given the setting, and headshots don't make a difference. Did I miss anything? Oh yeah, the plot."
Is it just me, or do most of the "reviewers" who give this game a rock bottom score come across as not having any clue of what they are talking about?
Quote from: RidgeTop on Mar 09, 2010, 01:24:10 AM
Quote from: DoomRulz on Mar 08, 2010, 09:53:16 PM
Don't know if this has been posted yet, but damn, this review is harsh.
http://www.crispygamer.com/gamereviews/2010-03-08/aliens-vs-predator-pc.aspx
"So where was I? Hmm. The weapons suck, the enemies are too tough given the setting, and headshots don't make a difference. Did I miss anything? Oh yeah, the plot."
Is it just me, or do most of the "reviewers" who give this game a rock bottom score come across as not having any clue of what they are talking about?
They have no clue what their talkin about at all.
The very same reviewer could have liked the game and gave it a nice lil' review, I bet he'd be a hero then. It's possible that he played and completed the game, he didn't have much interest in playing more or reviewing it on another level (waste of time for him), so he wrote his first impressions that look rather "he has no clue" to us hardcore fans.
... or maybe some of his complaints aren't legitimate given the source material?
Complaining about Aliens being resilient is sorta like complaining about Predators relying on stealth - no shit?
Sure some reviews were bs but in general there are a lot of bad ones and they can't all be wrong, though the fans only choose to bark at those. Doesn't take much to see how people are losing interest fast and the same happens with the reviewers.
It seems like every other time I log into steam to play this game, the metascore has gone down. I remember when it was like 78 :P
Now it's at 70. Wonder if it will drip below that yet.
It's honestly really not that hard to believe someone didn't enjoy this game......it's certainly not for just anyone I think most of us can certainly agree with that one...
Most of the reviews have been 'So so" which isn't bad..but a disappointment none the less...
I still haven't played the full game yet (!), but the metascore of 70 is disappointing. I really wanted it to be in the mid-80s at the very least.
Quote from: DoomRulz on Mar 10, 2010, 03:46:19 AM
I really wanted it to be in the mid-80s at the very least.
We all did.
EXTRA EXTRA Read all about it
Rebellion Spokesman Evades Question about DLChttp://www.dreadcentral.com/news/36310/exclusive-developer-qa-aliens-vs-predator
Best, least biassed review till date. (http://www.escapistmagazine.com/videos/view/zero-punctuation/1516-Aliens-vs-Predator)
Pretty funny; not his absolute best.
Quote from: skull-splitter on Mar 10, 2010, 05:14:45 PM
Best, least biassed review till date. (http://www.escapistmagazine.com/videos/view/zero-punctuation/1516-Aliens-vs-Predator)
That was awesome, easily the best review yet.
Quote from: AvatarIII on Mar 10, 2010, 05:02:08 PM
EXTRA EXTRA Read all about it
Rebellion Spokesman Evades Question about DLChttp://www.dreadcentral.com/news/36310/exclusive-developer-qa-aliens-vs-predator
Most useless interview ever..
Quote from: skull-splitter on Mar 10, 2010, 05:14:45 PM
Best, least biassed review till date. (http://www.escapistmagazine.com/videos/view/zero-punctuation/1516-Aliens-vs-Predator)
Haha, was just about to post this. It's a great review. I don't entirely agree with it, but it's really entertaining.
Yahtzee is overly negative on pretty almost ANY game, and all points he brings up are quite valid. I love it how he just reviews it as a standalone game instead of comparing it to previous titles and still comes up with the very same issues most of us seem to have with this new title.
Quote from: Puks on Mar 10, 2010, 06:02:47 PM
Quote from: AvatarIII on Mar 10, 2010, 05:02:08 PM
EXTRA EXTRA Read all about it
Rebellion Spokesman Evades Question about DLChttp://www.dreadcentral.com/news/36310/exclusive-developer-qa-aliens-vs-predator
Most useless interview ever..
Also most sensationalist title ever.
Quote from: skull-splitter on Mar 10, 2010, 05:14:45 PM
Best, least biassed review till date. (http://www.escapistmagazine.com/videos/view/zero-punctuation/1516-Aliens-vs-Predator)
That made my day. :D
Quote from: skull-splitter on Mar 10, 2010, 05:14:45 PM
Best, least biassed review till date. (http://www.escapistmagazine.com/videos/view/zero-punctuation/1516-Aliens-vs-Predator)
:D
Quote from: skull-splitter on Mar 10, 2010, 05:14:45 PM
Best, least biassed review till date. (http://www.escapistmagazine.com/videos/view/zero-punctuation/1516-Aliens-vs-Predator)
i don`t think he said anything that hasn`t already been said or that we aren`t aware of.
the fact that i can still sit down without feeling sore is what counts ;)
Now now, I've never seen the leprechaun's testicle mentioned before.
the last line was my favourite - "tried to french kiss an angle grinder"
well, that and the racism joke, that appealed to me as well :D
Racism is not a joke, xeno and pred get discriminated in this game due to their campaign's length. ;D
Nice review, I like how they made it entertaining and informative without any actual footage.
I love zeropunctiation, it's mean and hard on games, but he just is spot on when it comes to weak spots.
Quote from: Puks on Mar 11, 2010, 10:29:00 AM
Racism is not a joke, xeno and pred get discriminated in this game due to their campaign's length. ;D
Nice review, I like how they made it entertaining and informative without any actual footage.
does ZP ever use footage?
i can`t recall seeing any in the past, just the little animated approximations he does (which are still badass!)
Nope, never. Like you said he just uses animations.
Quote from: Xenomrph on Mar 10, 2010, 06:57:46 PM
Quote from: skull-splitter on Mar 10, 2010, 05:14:45 PM
Best, least biassed review till date. (http://www.escapistmagazine.com/videos/view/zero-punctuation/1516-Aliens-vs-Predator)
Haha, was just about to post this. It's a great review. I don't entirely agree with it, but it's really entertaining.
Same this guy hates most games, but its so funny and entertaining :)
Quote from: InfestedGoat on Mar 12, 2010, 01:11:15 AM
Same this guy hates most games, but its so funny and entertaining :)
He doesn't hate them, he just sees game mechanics. And most of them are a mere attempt.
Don't know if he hates but he is right about a couple of things is avp.
He was right about the Predator and Alien campaigns being fun...I have to admit I had lots of fun playing as them both. But he also points out how its almost a waste seeing as the marine campaign was so much longer then both of them. I have to admit I really enjoyed the first 2-3 levels of the marine campaign but after that I was like...seen this before...seen this done better before. But he also mentioned how the Predators only show up ONCE in both of the other campaigns which just feels flat out lazy to me.
He didn't say anything about the multiplayer but he hardly ever plays multiplayer on some games it seems.....he made it very clear in his MW2 review that he didn't touch the competitive multiplayer.
Quote from: Fleshtrap666 on Mar 12, 2010, 08:01:01 AM
he made it very clear in his MW2 review that he didn't touch the competitive multiplayer.
Which is as refreshing as Q3 crossed with an arcadegame...
Quote from: skull-splitter on Mar 12, 2010, 05:21:44 PM
Quote from: Fleshtrap666 on Mar 12, 2010, 08:01:01 AM
he made it very clear in his MW2 review that he didn't touch the competitive multiplayer.
Which is as refreshing as Q3 crossed with an arcadegame...
Didn't say that was a bad thing lulz
Check out our AvP tribute Mini Movie/Review for AvP, hope you enjoy!
GameTank
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T1PKLS68PUE
I enjoyed that! ^
Heard a couple of days ago angryjoe was going to interview rebllion on AvP.
Quote from: snrhiggers on Mar 13, 2010, 02:41:22 AM
Check out our AvP tribute Mini Movie/Review for AvP, hope you enjoy!
GameTank
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T1PKLS68PUE
One of the best reviews yet.
Yeah, that Game Tank review pretty much nails my feelings for the game.
I loved the zero punctaution review( I like all his videos), but you have to keep in mind he is incredibly cynical and roasts almost every game he plays. That was actually one of his more positive reviews.
Different, entertaining, amusing and stands out of the other reviewers. Hes doing a good job.
Quote from: skull-splitter on Mar 12, 2010, 07:38:41 AM
Quote from: InfestedGoat on Mar 12, 2010, 01:11:15 AM
Same this guy hates most games, but its so funny and entertaining :)
He doesn't hate them, he just sees game mechanics. And most of them are a mere attempt.
Yahtzee's reviews are entertaining but he really only plays single player and usually judges more on story than anything else.
Personally i think game informer is bogus...5.75/10...really...but cod (no skill run n gun game) scored high..you really lose faith when people make dumb numbers like that up...
http://www.dsogaming.com/news/rebellion-new-aliens-vs-predator-game-could-happen-would-love-to-return-to-this-franchise/ (http://www.dsogaming.com/news/rebellion-new-aliens-vs-predator-game-could-happen-would-love-to-return-to-this-franchise/)
Shame it doesn't really say anything. :-\ I love Rebellion. I've thoroughly enjoyed all their AvP games and I would love to actually see them have a chance not to rush out a next-gen game. And actually be able to support the game past release. Not that I'm bitter about Sega's treatment of AvP or Rebellion at all.
Thread Bump :-/
But whilst on RVG (User Name:Rogue Trooper) o put a few misc Q's Rebellion's way regarding all the AVP games they'd done including this one (which i was very dissapointed with):
http://www.retrovideogamer.co.uk/index.php?topic=2201.0