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Title: Prometheus Sets and Props
Post by: ikarop on Apr 24, 2012, 10:27:19 PM

Fox has released a new interview with various Prometheus crew members about the production of the film’s sets and props. It includes comments on costume design as well as creature effects. Be aware of spoilers. You can read the full interview here or after the jump.

“We present the evolution of these nasty bits and pieces of creature evolution in a logical and biological fashion" says Scott.  Adds Scanlan:  “Each stage of a creature's life cycle has a distinctive purpose.  For our xenobiology, we brought in new elements that are not necessarily backward from those in Alien, but are of a similar DNA.  Many of Ridley's references are derived from nature – plants, vegetables, sea creatures and other animals.  Nothing is invented."

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Title: Re: Prometheus: Sets and Props
Post by: Nightmare Asylum on Apr 24, 2012, 10:33:47 PM
Wow, very interesting article. Lots of nice tidbits of information. This is really making the wait for this film even harder :D
Title: Re: Prometheus: Sets and Props
Post by: zuzuki on Apr 24, 2012, 10:35:40 PM
QuoteThe translucent casket-like pod figures in one of the film's defining sequences, which mixes action, terror and horror in a way never before experienced on film.  "What goes on there is simply the worst thing you can (or probably cannot) imagine," says actress Noomi Rapace.
You give birth to a god damn alien. God damned trailer. Why did they have to spoil it?

QuoteAdds Scanlan:  "Each stage of a creature's life cycle has a distinctive purpose.  For our xenobiology, we brought in new elements that are not necessarily backward from those in Alien, but are of a similar DNA.  Many of Ridley's references are derived from nature – plants, vegetables, sea creatures and other animals.  Nothing is invented.
So maybe, besides the Engineer, there is only one other creature, but shown at different stages of growth, from a small stage to maturity.
Title: Re: Prometheus: Sets and Props
Post by: Gash on Apr 24, 2012, 10:40:43 PM
Quote from: zuzuki on Apr 24, 2012, 10:35:40 PM
QuoteThe translucent casket-like pod figures in one of the film's defining sequences, which mixes action, terror and horror in a way never before experienced on film.  "What goes on there is simply the worst thing you can (or probably cannot) imagine," says actress Noomi Rapace.
You give birth to a god damn alien. God damned trailer. Why did they have to spoil it?

There's no birth scene in the trailer, either you've drawn that conclusion or you've been looking at spoilers. ?
Title: Re: Prometheus: Sets and Props
Post by: ChrisPachi on Apr 24, 2012, 10:45:15 PM
QuoteMax's epic sets that bring to life the alien planet include a Pyramid, which contains the Juggernaut, a ship similar to the crashed crescent shaped ship seen in Alien.

I guess this is now the official name for the alien ship. Not sure about it myself. Thoughts?
Title: Re: Prometheus: Sets and Props
Post by: zuzuki on Apr 24, 2012, 10:45:43 PM
Quote from: Gash on Apr 24, 2012, 10:40:43 PM
Quote from: zuzuki on Apr 24, 2012, 10:35:40 PM
QuoteThe translucent casket-like pod figures in one of the film's defining sequences, which mixes action, terror and horror in a way never before experienced on film.  "What goes on there is simply the worst thing you can (or probably cannot) imagine," says actress Noomi Rapace.
You give birth to a god damn alien. God damned trailer. Why did they have to spoil it?

There's no birth scene in the trailer, either you've drawn that conclusion or you've been looking at spoilers. ?
The c-section surgery that's happening in the medpod in one of the trailers. Leaked trailer showed rapace with a fast growing belly,then the c-section in the official trailer. I call it a birth scene, not a extraction. Either way, they spoiled it
Title: Re: Prometheus: Sets and Props
Post by: ThisBethesdaSea on Apr 24, 2012, 10:47:22 PM
We don't actually know what happens to Shaw....is she impregnated? Does she give birth? Is she raped by a creature? NOTHING is definitive at the moment.
Title: Re: Prometheus: Sets and Props
Post by: Zenzucht on Apr 24, 2012, 10:50:28 PM
One would assume that these articles are excerpts from the book "The Art of Prometheus".

Quote from: zuzuki on Apr 24, 2012, 10:45:43 PM
Quote from: Gash on Apr 24, 2012, 10:40:43 PM
Quote from: zuzuki on Apr 24, 2012, 10:35:40 PM
QuoteThe translucent casket-like pod figures in one of the film's defining sequences, which mixes action, terror and horror in a way never before experienced on film.  "What goes on there is simply the worst thing you can (or probably cannot) imagine," says actress Noomi Rapace.
You give birth to a god damn alien. God damned trailer. Why did they have to spoil it?

There's no birth scene in the trailer, either you've drawn that conclusion or you've been looking at spoilers. ?
The c-section surgery that's happening in the medpod in one of the trailers. Leaked trailer showed rapace with a fast growing belly,then the c-section in the official trailer. I call it a birth scene, not a extraction. Either way, they spoiled it

We are spoiling ourselves already for several years with the leaks & discussing them :)
Title: Re: Prometheus: Sets and Props
Post by: zuzuki on Apr 24, 2012, 11:02:46 PM
Quote from: ThisBethesdaSea on Apr 24, 2012, 10:47:22 PM
We don't actually know what happens to Shaw....is she impregnated? Does she give birth? Is she raped by a creature? NOTHING is definitive at the moment.
Yeah but they kept talking about that scene, being shot on a closed set, and only a few people know what happens in it. It doesn't matter how Shaw ended up with that thing inside her. What matters is that they showed us in trailer the secret scene. Now a million things could happen before and after the surgery happens, but it still feels spoiled. Just my 2 cents anyway
Title: Re: Prometheus: Sets and Props
Post by: ChrisPachi on Apr 24, 2012, 11:04:02 PM
QuoteMany of Ridley's references are derived from nature – plants, vegetables...

Plants and sea-creatures I can buy into - they do some creepy shit - but vegetables? Why the hell did he mention vegetables? Out beloved xeno was partly modeled on insects, and our new beast is partly modeled on.... vegetables!?

I don't know about you guys, but I am struggling to think of anything noteworthy that vegetables do, other than be tasty and nutritious. ;)
Title: Re: Prometheus: Sets and Props
Post by: T Dog on Apr 24, 2012, 11:05:22 PM
f**k marketing
Title: Re: Prometheus: Sets and Props
Post by: ThisBethesdaSea on Apr 24, 2012, 11:11:28 PM
some vegetables eat insects....or

(https://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fmedia.divinecaroline.com%2Fext%2Farticle_images%2Fplants%2F2001348574948645778_rs.jpg&hash=ae8300cccb73a71102d10d8f8909adb48c5d0b1d)

the Hydnora africana, an unusual flesh-colored, parasitic flower that attacks the nearby roots of shrubby in arid deserts of South Africa. The putrid-smelling blossom attracts herds of carrion beetles.

Sometimes it's how they function that's creepy.....like that plant that infects ants....I think they probably meant 'vegetation.'
Title: Re: Prometheus: Sets and Props
Post by: mastermoon on Apr 24, 2012, 11:12:02 PM
Wow thats one hell of an update.

I'm impressed :).
Title: Re: Prometheus: Sets and Props
Post by: Valaquen on Apr 24, 2012, 11:28:29 PM
Quote from: ChrisPachi on Apr 24, 2012, 10:45:15 PM
QuoteMax's epic sets that bring to life the alien planet include a Pyramid, which contains the Juggernaut, a ship similar to the crashed crescent shaped ship seen in Alien.
What did I say, Corporal Hicks?  ;)
Title: Re: Prometheus: Sets and Props
Post by: Kol on Apr 24, 2012, 11:44:08 PM
Quote from: ThisBethesdaSea on Apr 24, 2012, 11:11:28 PM
some vegetables eat insects....or

http://media.divinecaroline.com/ext/article_images/plants/2001348574948645778_rs.jpg

the Hydnora africana, an unusual flesh-colored, parasitic flower that attacks the nearby roots of shrubby in arid deserts of South Africa. The putrid-smelling blossom attracts herds of carrion beetles.

Sometimes it's how they function that's creepy.....like that plant that infects ants....I think they probably meant 'vegetation.'

do you remember this scene in the trailer, where this indefinable, blue tendril appears?

(https://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2F27.media.tumblr.com%2Ftumblr_m10oxfhyfO1qeksb7o4_250.gif&hash=2a87d009c750d8b288a1cf05acff0f9842089fa9)

that may be the explanation for the plant-statement of scott.

or vegetable  ;)

Spoiler
(https://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FWvIi2.jpg&hash=71379182ad566e6150d9f01cf77eb4dbb0d2b90e)
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Title: Re: Prometheus: Sets and Props
Post by: Predaker on Apr 24, 2012, 11:44:42 PM
Quote from: ChrisPachi on Apr 24, 2012, 11:04:02 PM
QuoteMany of Ridley's references are derived from nature – plants, vegetables...

Plants and sea-creatures I can buy into - they do some creepy shit - but vegetables? Why the hell did he mention vegetables? Out beloved xeno was partly modeled on insects, and our new beast is partly modeled on.... vegetables!?

I don't know about you guys, but I am struggling to think of anything noteworthy that vegetables do, other than be tasty and nutritious. ;)
You know the aliens eat carrots, right?  :D
Title: Re: Prometheus Sets and Props
Post by: whiterabbit on Apr 25, 2012, 01:01:24 AM
Quote from: ChrisPachi on Apr 24, 2012, 11:04:02 PM
QuoteMany of Ridley's references are derived from nature – plants, vegetables...

Plants and sea-creatures I can buy into - they do some creepy shit - but vegetables? Why the hell did he mention vegetables? Out beloved xeno was partly modeled on insects, and our new beast is partly modeled on.... vegetables!?

I don't know about you guys, but I am struggling to think of anything noteworthy that vegetables do, other than be tasty and nutritious. ;)
Plants are pretty terrifying in that they put all of their energy into surviving. Even sea-creatures take time to nap or goof off.

Perhaps the eggs are vegetables? They seem to be rooted into the ground.

However it sure sounds like Ridley's going to have interspecies rape in Prometheus... I wonder if it lasts for more than 2 minutes?  :laugh:
Title: Re: Prometheus Sets and Props
Post by: Deuterium on Apr 25, 2012, 01:40:14 AM
QuoteMany of Ridley's references are derived from nature – plants, vegetables, sea creatures and other animals.  Nothing is invented

Is this supposed to be something to be especially proud of?  Many of the best science-fiction stories, involving alien life, make impressive use of imagination and "invention".  In fact, some of the most memorable aliens in SF literature are those that are truly "alien", and have no correspondence or correlation with terrestrial Life.  Just sayin...
Title: Re: Prometheus Sets and Props
Post by: Virgil on Apr 25, 2012, 02:13:20 AM
Quote from: Deuterium on Apr 25, 2012, 01:40:14 AM
QuoteMany of Ridley's references are derived from nature – plants, vegetables, sea creatures and other animals.  Nothing is invented

Is this supposed to be something to be especially proud of?  Many of the best science-fiction stories, involving alien life, make impressive use of imagination and "invention".  In fact, some of the most memorable aliens in SF literature are those that are truly "alien", and have no correspondence or correlation with terrestrial Life.  Just sayin...

Deuterium, in another thread you're complaining that the plot is not historically factual enough for you (or at least in keeping with our known biological history).

Now you're complaining that Ridley is not utilising enough imagination or invention?

Deuterium, it begs the question.....did Ridley Scott steal candy from you when you were a baby?  :P
Title: Re: Prometheus Sets and Props
Post by: Deuterium on Apr 25, 2012, 02:25:08 AM
Quote from: Virgil_uk on Apr 25, 2012, 02:13:20 AM
Deuterium, in another thread you're complaining that the plot is not historically factual enough for you (or at least in keeping with our known biological history).

Now you're complaining that Ridley is not utilising enough imagination or invention?

Deuterium, it begs the question.....did Ridley Scott steal candy from you when you were a baby?  :P

Virgil, with all due respect, these are two entirely different issues.  Tossing aside human evolution and development, and possibly re-writing Earth's life history, are what I have "complaints" with.

He can do anything he wants with alien biology.  In fact, the less it resembles terrestrial biology, the better, IMHO.   
Title: Re: Prometheus Sets and Props
Post by: Valaquen on Apr 25, 2012, 02:27:09 AM
Quote from: Deuterium on Apr 25, 2012, 01:40:14 AM
QuoteMany of Ridley's references are derived from nature – plants, vegetables, sea creatures and other animals.  Nothing is invented

Is this supposed to be something to be especially proud of?  Many of the best science-fiction stories, involving alien life, make impressive use of imagination and "invention".  In fact, some of the most memorable aliens in SF literature are those that are truly "alien", and have no correspondence or correlation with terrestrial Life.  Just sayin...
Even the original Alien had a correspondence and correlation with terrestrial life, which the film-makers were not shy to mention. Like Descartes said, I don't think you can create something that does not have a root in something you've already experienced. Some terrestrial life is absolutely horrific. I don't understand your complaint.
Title: Re: Prometheus Sets and Props
Post by: Deuterium on Apr 25, 2012, 02:42:36 AM
Quote from: Valaquen on Apr 25, 2012, 02:27:09 AM
Even the original Alien had a correspondence and correlation with terrestrial life, which the film-makers were not shy to mention. Like Descartes said, I don't think you can create something that does not have a root in something you've already experienced. Some terrestrial life is absolutely horrific. I don't understand your complaint.

I have simply expressed concern with the production designers statements, which imply that the alien life / creatures, featured in the film, are derived from terrestrial examples...and specifically, the perplexing qualification that "nothing was invented".  If you folks wish to categorize my specific post as a formal complaint, then that is your choice.
Title: Re: Prometheus Sets and Props
Post by: Virgil on Apr 25, 2012, 03:00:06 AM
I'm not trying to categorize you at all, Deuterium. I just wanna see a big ol' smile on that there face  ;D

Now, can we gaze at this picture for a minute and get a bit excited that this film comes out in just over a month?

(https://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg2.timeinc.net%2Few%2Fi%2F2012%2F03%2F17%2FPrometheus_510.jpg&hash=169eb09299d2d554567cf4f1f772d560a9e2b9fb)




Title: Re: Prometheus Sets and Props
Post by: ThisBethesdaSea on Apr 25, 2012, 03:02:34 AM
The problem lies with every minute detail being raked over the coals, so much so that now, people have problem with the wording of those behind the scenes of Prometheus. When does this end? By all means, carry on, but don't get offended when this starts getting really old and on everyone else's last nerve.
Title: Re: Prometheus Sets and Props
Post by: OpenMaw on Apr 25, 2012, 05:41:48 AM
Quote from: Deuterium on Apr 25, 2012, 02:42:36 AM
I have simply expressed concern with the production designers statements, which imply that the alien life / creatures, featured in the film, are derived from terrestrial examples...and specifically, the perplexing qualification that "nothing was invented".  If you folks wish to categorize my specific post as a formal complaint, then that is your choice.

Well said, indeed. :)

Quote from: Virgil_uk on Apr 25, 2012, 03:00:06 AM
Now, can we gaze at this picture for a minute and get a bit excited that this film comes out in just over a month?

http://img2.timeinc.net/ew/i/2012/03/17/Prometheus_510.jpg


Certainly, and we're all very very excited. The fact that many of us choose to analyse all the details and not simply stop at "WOW $#^%! I JUST JIZZED MYSELF!" Show's we are far more deeply excited. This is a pretty big moment in film history. I don't think there's anyone who isn't on some level excited about this picture.

Quote from: ThisBethesdaSea on Apr 25, 2012, 03:02:34 AM
The problem lies with every minute detail being raked over the coals, so much so that now, people have problem with the wording of those behind the scenes of Prometheus. When does this end? By all means, carry on, but don't get offended when this starts getting really old and on everyone else's last nerve.

Why, exactly, does it matter to you what bothers other people? Seriously. If you enjoy something, go ahead, but a forum is all about discussion, from the minute details to the huge ones. It shouldn't hurt your ability to enjoy the film proper if some of us dislike certain details.

Title: Re: Prometheus Sets and Props
Post by: AsapJockey on Apr 25, 2012, 05:54:19 AM
So the derelict is called the "Juggernaut" cool (jots down in Alien nerdy fact session of the brain)
Title: Re: Prometheus Sets and Props
Post by: fiveways on Apr 25, 2012, 06:06:36 AM
Quote from: AsapJockey on Apr 25, 2012, 05:54:19 AM
So the derelict is called the "Juggernaut" cool (jots down in Alien nerdy fact session of the brain)

(https://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimages.wikia.com%2Fvillains%2Fimages%2F3%2F36%2FJuggernaut_2.jpg&hash=9d87ed7c0be1b3ec3bdbe7d8807519aac10d95e3)

At least I didn't link to a "nothing can stop the Juggernaut Bitch" gif that i have been expecting someone to post all day.
Title: Re: Prometheus Sets and Props
Post by: Cvalda on Apr 25, 2012, 06:09:16 AM
Goddamit, Deuterium, are you still stuck at a 3.5? :laugh:

Just remember: this will not be as good as ALIEN, not by a looooooong margin. But it will still be good (hopefully), full stop.  ;)
Title: Re: Prometheus Sets and Props
Post by: fiveways on Apr 25, 2012, 06:27:43 AM
Quote from: Cvalda on Apr 25, 2012, 06:09:16 AM
Goddamit, Deuterium, are you still stuck at a 3.5? :laugh:

Just remember: this will not be as good as ALIEN, not by a looooooong margin. But it will still be good (hopefully), full stop.  ;)

I think it has a chance to be better then Alien.  Not a huge chance, but a chance none the less.
Title: Re: Prometheus Sets and Props
Post by: OpenMaw on Apr 25, 2012, 06:39:48 AM
Quote from: Cvalda on Apr 25, 2012, 06:09:16 AM
Goddamit, Deuterium, are you still stuck at a 3.5? :laugh:

Just remember: this will not be as good as ALIEN, not by a looooooong margin. But it will still be good (hopefully), full stop.  ;)

Correct me if i'm wrong Cvalda, I certainly don't mean to put words in your mouth, but that really sounds like it comes with an air of "Well, what do you expect?" Like Alien is on such a high playing field nothing can touch it? I mean, Alien is a classic, it's a great movie, but what makes it great isn't that hard to achieve... and with everything we've learned in the last 30 years since Alien was made, both about astronomy, cosmology, biology, and all the technical advancements, that a new story could blow Alien out of the water? I think it's possible. For me, right now, the only thing that marks against this film is the AA theory involvement. If the rest of the movie can at least handle itself as an adult film, I don't see how this film can't match Alien at least. :)
Title: Re: Prometheus Sets and Props
Post by: Cvalda on Apr 25, 2012, 06:47:03 AM
Quote from: OpenMaw on Apr 25, 2012, 06:39:48 AM
Correct me if i'm wrong Cvalda, I certainly don't mean to put words in your mouth, but that really sounds like it comes with an air of "Well, what do you expect?" Like Alien is on such a high playing field nothing can touch it? I mean, Alien is a classic, it's a great movie, but what makes it great isn't that hard to achieve...
Aside from the fact that hundreds of movies have tried to achieve just that since, and none of them have topped it--not even its sequels. The odds of PROMETHEUS besting ALIEN, which is a masterpiece, are pretty damned slim.
Title: Re: Prometheus Sets and Props
Post by: ChrisPachi on Apr 25, 2012, 07:53:24 AM
Quote from: Virgil_uk on Apr 25, 2012, 03:00:06 AMNow, can we gaze at this picture for a minute and get a bit excited that this film comes out in just over a month?
http://img2.timeinc.net/ew/i/2012/03/17/Prometheus_510.jpg
Unfortunately when I gaze at that picture I get a creeping sense of dread about this film. Something about plonking a giant human-looking head into the middle of what by all rights (I mean, to my mind) is meant to be a completely alien structure, seems... cheap. Now we know much more about the back story thanks to these last few articles, even more so.
Title: Re: Prometheus Sets and Props
Post by: Eva on Apr 25, 2012, 08:21:08 AM
Quote from: Cvalda on Apr 25, 2012, 06:47:03 AM
Quote from: OpenMaw on Apr 25, 2012, 06:39:48 AM
Correct me if i'm wrong Cvalda, I certainly don't mean to put words in your mouth, but that really sounds like it comes with an air of "Well, what do you expect?" Like Alien is on such a high playing field nothing can touch it? I mean, Alien is a classic, it's a great movie, but what makes it great isn't that hard to achieve...
Aside from the fact that hundreds of movies have tried to achieve just that since, and none of them have topped it--not even its sequels. The odds of PROMETHEUS besting ALIEN, which is a masterpiece, are pretty damned slim.
^ What I would have said.

If it's not that hard to achieve that level of filmmaking, how come Alien haven't been beat yet? There have been/are plenty of A level directors doing their very best in the horror/sci-fi genre.

It's like how Silence Of The Lambs completely redefined a genre and made most subsequent films dealing with the same themes, look like poor imitations by comparison, including its own sequel and prequels.

Why haven't anyone made sculptures more impressive than what the renaissance era artists offered, advancing the artform to the next level?
Title: Re: Prometheus Sets and Props
Post by: Infected on Apr 25, 2012, 08:30:58 AM
Quote from: Virgil_uk on Apr 25, 2012, 03:00:06 AM
I'm not trying to categorize you at all, Deuterium. I just wanna see a big ol' smile on that there face  ;D

Now, can we gaze at this picture for a minute and get a bit excited that this film comes out in just over a month?

http://img2.timeinc.net/ew/i/2012/03/17/Prometheus_510.jpg
(https://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi46.tinypic.com%2Fatq8hz.jpg&hash=ec045871f39675bb1af85a8728ab70a9864fbc4b)

Iz....is it really you Zordon?  :-[
Title: Re: Prometheus Sets and Props
Post by: OpenMaw on Apr 25, 2012, 02:16:50 PM
Quote from: Eva on Apr 25, 2012, 08:21:08 AM
If it's not that hard to achieve that level of filmmaking, how come Alien haven't been beat yet? There have been/are plenty of A level directors doing their very best in the horror/sci-fi genre.

Too many wink at the audience for one thing. Alien is a no bullshit movie. That's the problem. Every, but every, film suffers from at least one scene where they wink.

The closest serious attempt at another Alien was Event Horizon. It suffers from some bad editing, bad acting, and bad direction. It starts out fairly promising, but then loses itself to some very cheesy elements.

Quote from: Eva on Apr 25, 2012, 08:21:08 AM
It's like how Silence Of The Lambs completely redefined a genre and made most subsequent films dealing with the same themes, look like poor imitations by comparison, including its own sequel and prequels.

That's because they are imitations. Hannibal, it's direct sequel was (ironic time) cannibalizing on Silence by using what was a very insidious and interesting character as a primary focus. Too much of a good thing. Plus the over use of gore and carnage, something the original movie used sparingly.

I would say that "Red Dragon" though a remake, was actually a very successful film. IMHO it does a fairly good job of matching Lambs.




Quote from: Eva on Apr 25, 2012, 08:21:08 AM
Why haven't anyone made sculptures more impressive than what the renaissance era artists offered, advancing the artform to the next level?

Because large portions of the population can't be bothered with said art form to begin with? ;D I'm kidding of course. You make a valid point.
Title: Re: Prometheus Sets and Props
Post by: nostromo mechanic on Apr 25, 2012, 05:22:26 PM
Back in 1979, we walked into Alien with no expectations at all and Star Wars was probably the closest thing we were wanting to compare it to! Wow, you wanna talk about two totally different movies there. Anyway, Prometheus has big shoes to fill and high expectations to live up too. Just think, as much of a masterpiece as the original Alien was, Ridley would be competing with himself to outdo his original if it was a direct prequel. As much as I love Xeno's, I am kinda Xeno'ed out especially after that gawd damn Predalien that was roaring like a lion on the roof of the hospital in the AVP movie. I can't even stress how much I hated hearing that. I'm ready for a new creature in my nightmares for the NEXT 33 years!
Title: Re: Prometheus Sets and Props
Post by: Valaquen on Apr 25, 2012, 06:08:06 PM
Quote from: Deuterium on Apr 25, 2012, 02:42:36 AM
I have simply expressed concern with the production designers statements, which imply that the alien life / creatures, featured in the film, are derived from terrestrial examples...and specifically, the perplexing qualification that "nothing was invented".  If you folks wish to categorize my specific post as a formal complaint, then that is your choice.
Were you ever concerned when Ridley and co said they watched Oxford Scientific to explain the breeding habits of Kane's Son; or when he compared it to a grub; or Giger compared it to a termite; or when Dan O'Bannon said he based the Alien on insects and his own stomach ailments; and on and on? It's all terrestrial, always was, albeit wrapped up in Giger's signature style. The unknowable aspect of the Alien comes from its origin, or motive (which we all should know by now, was to breed, as explained throughout the decades by the filmmakers). I still don't understand your complaints, but I guess you're welcome to them.
Title: Re: Prometheus Sets and Props
Post by: ThisBethesdaSea on Apr 25, 2012, 06:14:46 PM
 What I find confounding is the dichotomy between wanting something as a fan, and also wanting Ridley Scott to stay true to his own artistic vision. At the moment, I'll choose number two. Alien and Blade Runner are films that came from who Ridley Scott is as a person, encompassing his background as a commercial director and artist. That same Ridley Scott is directing Prometheus. He's in the best position possible because he's not been jaded by a string of financial hits. He's come to Prometheus with his feet firmly secured in the soil.

I've about had enough with the bitching and moaning. My response is not to gush (I'm no gushing fan). However cautious optimisnm is something that this board could use a bit more of.
Title: Re: Prometheus Sets and Props
Post by: Predaker on Apr 25, 2012, 06:14:55 PM
I think when they say "nothing was invented" they are speaking in the context of, "hey we didn't just pull this stuff out of our asses. It makes sense."

I dont take it to literally mean they aren't willing to be a little creative with this movie..

Hope everyone here is having a good day!!  :)
Title: Re: Prometheus Sets and Props
Post by: 8thPassenger on Apr 25, 2012, 06:20:44 PM
Quote from: Predaker on Apr 25, 2012, 06:14:55 PM
I think when they say "nothing was invented" they are speaking in the context of, "hey we didn't just pull this stuff out of our asses. It makes sense."

I dont take it to literally mean they aren't willing to be a little creative with this movie..

That's what I'm thinking as well.

Sometimes people seem to take things too literally.
Title: Re: Prometheus Sets and Props
Post by: And stuff on Apr 25, 2012, 06:47:20 PM
Quote from: Cvalda on Apr 25, 2012, 06:47:03 AM
Quote from: OpenMaw on Apr 25, 2012, 06:39:48 AM
Correct me if i'm wrong Cvalda, I certainly don't mean to put words in your mouth, but that really sounds like it comes with an air of "Well, what do you expect?" Like Alien is on such a high playing field nothing can touch it? I mean, Alien is a classic, it's a great movie, but what makes it great isn't that hard to achieve...
Aside from the fact that hundreds of movies have tried to achieve just that since, and none of them have topped it--not even its sequels. The odds of PROMETHEUS besting ALIEN, which is a masterpiece, are pretty damned slim.

What's a better film, Alien or Blade Runner?  I get the feeling Prometheus wont be comparable to Alien aside from the fact that it takes place in the same universe.
Title: Re: Prometheus Sets and Props
Post by: wmmvrrvrrmm on Apr 25, 2012, 06:51:30 PM
Quote from: Predaker on Apr 25, 2012, 06:14:55 PM
I think when they say "nothing was invented" they are speaking in the context of, "hey we didn't just pull this stuff out of our asses. It makes sense."

I dont take it to literally mean they aren't willing to be a little creative with this movie..

Hope everyone here is having a good day!!  :)

Well, may we'll find out more and then know whether Neal Scanlan knows what he's talking about or not.
Title: Re: Prometheus Sets and Props
Post by: Virgil on Apr 25, 2012, 09:23:27 PM
Quote from: ThisBethesdaSea on Apr 25, 2012, 06:14:46 PM
I've about had enough with the bitching and moaning. My response is not to gush (I'm no gushing fan). However cautious optimisnm is something that this board could use a bit more of.

Im with you 100% ThisBethesdaSea. I keep hoping for just a little more optimism about this film myself. But alas, you can't help how people feel.  :-\



Title: Re: Prometheus Sets and Props
Post by: Xenomorphine on Apr 26, 2012, 04:21:19 AM
Looks like the decision to move away from the bulky suits of the original film really was as simple as fleeting artistic preference, rather than anything to do with alleged NASA concepts, as some had speculated... Interesting to reference, at least.
Title: Re: Prometheus Sets and Props
Post by: ThisBethesdaSea on Apr 26, 2012, 01:15:35 PM
Or that RIDICULOUS Mass Effect comparison....
Title: Re: Prometheus: Sets and Props
Post by: gdavid on May 15, 2012, 02:22:45 PM
Quote from: ThisBethesdaSea on Apr 24, 2012, 11:11:28 PM
some vegetables eat insects....or

http://media.divinecaroline.com/ext/article_images/plants/2001348574948645778_rs.jpg

the Hydnora africana, an unusual flesh-colored, parasitic flower that attacks the nearby roots of shrubby in arid deserts of South Africa. The putrid-smelling blossom attracts herds of carrion beetles.

Sometimes it's how they function that's creepy.....like that plant that infects ants....I think they probably meant 'vegetation.'

Wow - that is an amazing flower! Can one get such a flower for ones home? I would love to order and get these serenata flowers delivered on line (http://www.serenataflowers.com)  - is that possible? Or would it die?
Title: Re: Prometheus Sets and Props
Post by: ThisBethesdaSea on May 15, 2012, 02:44:54 PM
ask a flower shop......this is an ALIEN forum.... ;) :)
Title: Re: Prometheus: Sets and Props
Post by: LarsVader on May 15, 2012, 02:48:41 PM
Quote from: gdavid on May 15, 2012, 02:22:45 PM
Quote from: ThisBethesdaSea on Apr 24, 2012, 11:11:28 PM
some vegetables eat insects....or

http://media.divinecaroline.com/ext/article_images/plants/2001348574948645778_rs.jpg

the Hydnora africana, an unusual flesh-colored, parasitic flower that attacks the nearby roots of shrubby in arid deserts of South Africa. The putrid-smelling blossom attracts herds of carrion beetles.

Sometimes it's how they function that's creepy.....like that plant that infects ants....I think they probably meant 'vegetation.'

Wow - that is an amazing flower! Can one get such a flower for ones home? I would love to order and get these serenata flowers delivered on line (http://www.serenataflowers.com)  - is that possible? Or would it die?
???
Are you spam?
Title: Re: Prometheus: Sets and Props
Post by: Glaive on May 15, 2012, 03:34:50 PM
Quote from: LarsVader on May 15, 2012, 02:48:41 PM
Quote from: gdavid on May 15, 2012, 02:22:45 PM
Quote from: ThisBethesdaSea on Apr 24, 2012, 11:11:28 PM
some vegetables eat insects....or

http://media.divinecaroline.com/ext/article_images/plants/2001348574948645778_rs.jpg

the Hydnora africana, an unusual flesh-colored, parasitic flower that attacks the nearby roots of shrubby in arid deserts of South Africa. The putrid-smelling blossom attracts herds of carrion beetles.

Sometimes it's how they function that's creepy.....like that plant that infects ants....I think they probably meant 'vegetation.'

Wow - that is an amazing flower! Can one get such a flower for ones home? I would love to order and get these serenata flowers delivered on line (http://www.serenataflowers.com)  - is that possible? Or would it die?
???
Are you spam?


...more ''luncheon meat'', I'm guessing...