Things you have only just noticed/didn't notice the first time.

Started by The Cruentus, Aug 06, 2019, 03:43:04 PM

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Things you have only just noticed/didn't notice the first time. (Read 54,055 times)

SM

Quote from: Kradan on Apr 17, 2024, 10:28:55 AMIt's kinda ballsy that they actually went with the whole "killing Ripley" thing in 3. I feel like filmakers  played with viewers expectations in that regard: there're even 3 fake-out death scenes: first, when Dragon goes face-to-face with Ripley in the infirmary, second, when she goes looking for it in the "basement" and third, when Dillon swings his axe. Each time it seems this is it for our beloved hero ... until it isn't. It's almost as if these scenes serve the purpose to reassure the audience that even though they killed Hicks and Newt they're not gonna kill Ripley, right ? There's a chestburster inside her but she's still gonna make it, right ? No matter what Ripley will be fine, right ? Right ? And then BAM - she falls in a fiery void

As I was typing this ^^^ I also realised it's quite poetic that Ripley falls in the same pit where Hicks' and Newt's bodies were cremated. She's finally reunited with them ...

I read the novelisation before the film came out in Australia and she literally dies on the last page. I read it and re-read half a dozen times because I couldn't believe it.

BigDaddyJohn

Yeah I remember that was a huge deal back then. But it was the perfect ending IMHO.

SiL

Quote from: SM on Apr 17, 2024, 11:32:13 AM
Quote from: Kradan on Apr 17, 2024, 10:28:55 AMIt's kinda ballsy that they actually went with the whole "killing Ripley" thing in 3. I feel like filmakers  played with viewers expectations in that regard: there're even 3 fake-out death scenes: first, when Dragon goes face-to-face with Ripley in the infirmary, second, when she goes looking for it in the "basement" and third, when Dillon swings his axe. Each time it seems this is it for our beloved hero ... until it isn't. It's almost as if these scenes serve the purpose to reassure the audience that even though they killed Hicks and Newt they're not gonna kill Ripley, right ? There's a chestburster inside her but she's still gonna make it, right ? No matter what Ripley will be fine, right ? Right ? And then BAM - she falls in a fiery void

As I was typing this ^^^ I also realised it's quite poetic that Ripley falls in the same pit where Hicks' and Newt's bodies were cremated. She's finally reunited with them ...

I read the novelisation before the film came out in Australia and she literally dies on the last page. I read it and re-read half a dozen times because I couldn't believe it.
Alan Dean Foster and really abrupt endings to his Alien Trilogy novelisations, name a more iconic duo. I reread Alien last week and the entire last half hour or so is a single chapter.

Prez

Took me a long time (before the interwebs and proliferation of home releases) to remember in Alien3 if at the end the queen burst out or not. I saw the film on it's original theatrical release in the cinemas. Genuinely thought I was imagining it when I saw the Assembly cut and thinking to myself `hey. Didn't ripley grab the queen as it burst out?'

Elmazalman

Quote from: [cancerblack] on Apr 12, 2024, 08:48:30 PMI do remember him being very stubbly at certain points, but not full facial hair.

Parker, has a light beard throughout the film. Watch the 4K, and you'll also notice Lambert's hairy forearm during the start of the chestburster scene - a nicely-detailed 4K image.

[cancerblack]

Would that I had a 4K player.

SiL

Not so much "just noticed" but "anally went through and checked" and Big Chap is on-screen for about 3:21s out of a 117 minute film.

BigDaddyJohn

I think that's about the same time as for the shark in Jaws. Even a bit less, if I'm not mistaken.

Neila

I don't know if this also counts here:

There's this scene in Alien when Parker and Lambert are surprised by the alien.
There is a spotlight on the wall and a shadow is moving pretty quickly in it.
For years I thought it was Parker scurrying around organizing the coolant.
But it's the alien that scurries more or less like a normal person and then crouches down.

(Then comes the scene in which Lambert notices the alien and it then slowly rears up in front of her.)

As I said, I always thought it was Parker, but if you look closer you can clearly see the elongated front head shape.
With that in mind, it's absolutely strange.
If this scene is intentional, it's downright mood-killing.
I think it's a mistake in the editing.

it looks like:
"Bolaji, it's your turn, you have to get to your position quickly.
Go ahead, the camera is already rolling!"

Am I wrong or how do you see it???

In Alien 4, in the underwater scene, you can clearly see a pair of diving goggles among all the trash in the water.
I didn't notice this until long after the film was available on video.

BigDaddyJohn

I always thought the shadows looked random, I need to watch it again.

SM

SM

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Quote from: Neila on May 27, 2024, 03:32:47 PMI don't know if this also counts here:

There's this scene in Alien when Parker and Lambert are surprised by the alien.
There is a spotlight on the wall and a shadow is moving pretty quickly in it.
For years I thought it was Parker scurrying around organizing the coolant.
But it's the alien that scurries more or less like a normal person and then crouches down.

(Then comes the scene in which Lambert notices the alien and it then slowly rears up in front of her.)

As I said, I always thought it was Parker, but if you look closer you can clearly see the elongated front head shape.
With that in mind, it's absolutely strange.
If this scene is intentional, it's downright mood-killing.
I think it's a mistake in the editing.

it looks like:
"Bolaji, it's your turn, you have to get to your position quickly.
Go ahead, the camera is already rolling!"

Am I wrong or how do you see it???

In Alien 4, in the underwater scene, you can clearly see a pair of diving goggles among all the trash in the water.
I didn't notice this until long after the film was available on video.

I'm puzzled why anyone would think this was a mistake?  There's an aircraft landing light pointing at Roni Cartright for the express purpose of getting the Alien shadow in frame. It's supposed to be crawling out of a vent.

xeno_alpha_07

I recently watched Alien with headphones and noticed something I had completely forgotten. Before Ripley, Parker, and Brett enter the storage room, you can clearly hear Ridley Scott say "steady."


SM

Never could work out why that door was slightly open.

SiL

I thought it was Parker or Brett saying it.

xeno_alpha_07

Quote from: SM on May 27, 2024, 11:09:46 PMNever could work out why that door was slightly open.

Possibly from the Nostromo's rough landing?

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