Egg on Sulaco

Started by Darkness, Nov 01, 2006, 08:21:10 AM

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BlueMarsalis79

BlueMarsalis79

#5385
4/4/25

whiterabbit

whiterabbit

#5386
Now hear me out, cut scenes excluded. Burke was an Android. The company asshole model. Just like there is an Ash on every trucker mission sent to LV 426; there is a Burke to sabotage the marines on every military mission to LV 426. Yea the exact same model.

He obviously was taken by the Alien at the door and gifted an egg from the illustrious queen. How he got back to the ship? Again, obviously the colony has some sort of space craft. Why did no one at the colony use any of them? Of course they did. If the Alien Franchiseā„¢ has taught me anything, it's that they're millions of stranded humans in lifeboats floating in interstellar space!

Therefor, Burke planted the egg on the Sulaco and more importantly Burke is still on the Sulaco. Soon to rendezvous with David on the set of Prometheus 2: Alien:Romulus: Part Deux!

BugHunter2503

BugHunter2503

#5387
I've just listened to the Perfect Organism podcast on this, and thought about this.

Having the Queen plant it makes no sense, as she has zero time to plant it. They land on the Sulaco. In the landing bay, the Queen skewers Bishop, and emerges from the landing gear of the dropship where she was hiding. She battles Ripley, then gets sucked out the airlock. Therefore, she couldn't have planted the egg.

There's flaws in the theory, but I still favour Bishop. He could've had hidden programming he wasn't aware of that overrode the 3 laws, allowing him to put the egg there, or he could've been remotely controlled by someone at Weyland-Yutani. He had time to get in the nest and grab an ovomorph whilst Ripley and Newt are escaping the nest/Queen. But again, time on the Sulaco is the problem here. As the only way Bishop works, is if he took it up there before coming back for Newt and Ripley, as again, with the Queen's emergence from the landing gear, he had no time to go and hide it. Plus, I'm sure Ripley and Newt would've seen it in the drop ship.

So I'm not certain, but Bishop makes far more sense than the Queen.

Slutty Badger

Slutty Badger

#5388
Quote from: BugHunter2503 on Apr 16, 2025, 07:53:22 AMI've just listened to the Perfect Organism podcast on this, and thought about this.

Having the Queen plant it makes no sense, as she has zero time to plant it. They land on the Sulaco. In the landing bay, the Queen skewers Bishop, and emerges from the landing gear of the dropship where she was hiding. She battles Ripley, then gets sucked out the airlock. Therefore, she couldn't have planted the egg.

There's flaws in the theory, but I still favour Bishop. He could've had hidden programming he wasn't aware of that overrode the 3 laws, allowing him to put the egg there, or he could've been remotely controlled by someone at Weyland-Yutani. He had time to get in the nest and grab an ovomorph whilst Ripley and Newt are escaping the nest/Queen. But again, time on the Sulaco is the problem here. As the only way Bishop works, is if he took it up there before coming back for Newt and Ripley, as again, with the Queen's emergence from the landing gear, he had no time to go and hide it. Plus, I'm sure Ripley and Newt would've seen it in the drop ship.

So I'm not certain, but Bishop makes far more sense than the Queen.

The Wey-Yu Report suggests that it could have been a Drone or Warrior that planted the egg aboard the dropship, on the basis of the Warrior that snuck aboard Bug Stomper. A few moments would have been enough for it to do so.

Neila

Neila

#5389
Quote from: Slutty Badger on Apr 16, 2025, 08:01:44 AMThe Wey-Yu Report suggests that it could have been a Drone or Warrior that planted the egg aboard the dropship, on the basis of the Warrior that snuck aboard Bug Stomper. A few moments would have been enough for it to do so.

Also a possibility. However, I still don't have an explanation for how the egg got under the intermediate floor of the Sulaco.

The filmmakers certainly didn't give a damn and didn't think about an explanation.
Ultimately, it was about showing something familiar.

But I'm still a supporter of the theory that the queen lost semen, which developed into an egg.

If only because the egg's tilted position makes it look more like it grew there rather than being intentionally placed.

Personally, I really like this nonexistent explanation best.

And whoever is responsible for future stories and films, and if this topic ever comes up again:
MAKE IT SO I'M RIGHT  :laugh:  :laugh:  :laugh:


SiL

SiL

#5390
Quote from: BugHunter2503 on Apr 16, 2025, 07:53:22 AMThere's flaws in the theory, but I still favour Bishop. He could've had hidden programming he wasn't aware of that overrode the 3 laws, allowing him to put the egg there, or he could've been remotely controlled by someone at Weyland-Yutani. He had time to get in the nest and grab an ovomorph whilst Ripley and Newt are escaping the nest/Queen. But again, time on the Sulaco is the problem here. As the only way Bishop works, is if he took it up there before coming back for Newt and Ripley, as again, with the Queen's emergence from the landing gear, he had no time to go and hide it. Plus, I'm sure Ripley and Newt would've seen it in the drop ship.

So I'm not certain, but Bishop makes far more sense than the Queen.
Bishop doesn't have time at all. He makes even less sense than the egg laying Alien laying an egg

BlueMarsalis79

BlueMarsalis79

#5391

Slutty Badger

Slutty Badger

#5392
Another possible explanation given by the Wey-Yu Report is that the Queen flung a quantity of egg-laying material somewhere.

Quote from: BlueMarsalis79 on Apr 16, 2025, 09:02:49 AMhttps://i.imgur.com/7i7I6rW.gif

Are you saying that there is no egg?

SiL

SiL

#5393
Yes, because a fan edit took it out.

The Cruentus

The Cruentus

#5394
No matter how good a fan edit is, it will still be a fan edit. Not canon unfortunately.   

426Buddy

426Buddy

#5395
The Bishop theory has been debunked so many times over the years, it's just sad at this point. Leave it to the PO guys to land back on that stinker of a theory.

Oasis Nadrama

Oasis Nadrama

#5396
The Bishop theory feels actually logical to me in terms of pure worldbuilding, the problem is it completely contradicts the themes of AlienS.

One of the main points of the movie is that synthetics aren't inherently evil, they can be used for something else than destructive capitalist purposes, it is even part of Ripley's and Bishop's character development - she learns to trust Bishop because of his actions.

If you retroactively decide Bishop brought the egg, or even that some sleeper agent subroutine brought the egg, you demolish the characters and the movie.

426Buddy

426Buddy

#5397
Beyond all of that, there is no possible way he can actually do it given the films countdown. Its been mapped out a 100 times, its not possible within the time constraints the film sets up.

BlueMarsalis79

BlueMarsalis79

#5398
Plus it completely destroys the point of contrast between the man and the android in Alien³ itself if both serve the company to that severe end. At the expense of human beings.

The real answer's just watch A34k, and then it's not even a question worth asking anymore.


I have actually made the argument before that the Assembly Cut's a fan edit, before A34K even existed, one with more arbitrary and unjustified changes I might add.
If this fan edit's  the go to it matters not that it is unofficial.

Local Trouble

Local Trouble

#5399
Quote from: Local Trouble on May 03, 2023, 04:34:19 AMChatGPT has written it all out:

QuoteINT. SULACO HANGAR BAY - NIGHT

Ripley, inside the Power Loader exoskeleton, battles the furious Queen Alien. The Queen, having torn herself free from her egg sac, has a gaping wound in her abdomen, with her innards partially exposed.

As the intense fight continues, a microscopic, undeveloped egg is unknowingly dislodged from the Queen's abdominal cavity. It drops onto the grated floor, virtually invisible to the naked eye, appearing as nothing more than a tiny, harmless blob of slime.

INT. SULACO SUBFLOORING - CONTINUOUS

The minuscule, slimy egg slips through the grates and sticks to the subflooring beneath the hangar bay. There, hidden from sight, it slowly starts to congeal and take root. The resilient Xenomorph life form begins its development process, growing and expanding as it clings to the floor.

INT. SULACO HANGAR BAY - NIGHT

Ripley, still engaged in her life-or-death struggle with the Queen, manages to open the airlock. The vacuum of space sucks the Queen Alien out of the Sulaco, leaving Ripley victorious but completely unaware of the danger that remains hidden on the ship.

INT. SULACO SUBFLOORING - ONE WEEK LATER

The once-microscopic egg has grown to full size, pulsating with life. Unseen by the crew and still attached to the subflooring, the egg awaits its opportunity to unleash the next Xenomorph nightmare.

As the Sulaco continues its journey, the egg senses the presence of potential hosts nearby. It slowly opens, revealing the Facehugger within, poised to strike.

FADE OUT.

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