New Alien: Earth footage was shown during the '2025 Annual Meeting of Shareholders Webcast'

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BlueMarsalis79

If the Auriga actually crashed into Earth it becomes uninhabitable.

To quote Mass Effect

"X-57 is twice the size of the asteroid that wiped out the Earth's dinosaurs. It would be like millions of fusion bombs striking at once. With the heat of the blast, a thousand kilometers away, clothes would ignite. There'd be global wildfires. Air shock will flatten everything for hundreds of kilometers. Terra Nova will die, Shepard- not just our colony, the planet. There'll be a climate shift, mass extinctions, the ecosystem won't recover for thousands of years. Millions maybe."

Slutty Badger

W-Y managed to fix it, apparently. It is mentioned that the Auriga's impact nearly caused an ice age.

The Cruentus

The Cruentus

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Quote from: Slutty Badger on Mar 26, 2025, 04:05:36 PM
Quote from: The Cruentus on Mar 25, 2025, 09:41:02 PMDepends on how canon they are though, movies take precedent but back when A:OOTS was still considered canon, that basically created the issue of the harpoon position, among other things too.

Out of the Shadows is still canon. It's been classified as Tier III - majority of canon content with the odd discrepancy that's likely a result of hearsay or embellishment.

And most of that is probably down to the repeated inconsistencies in River of Pain. Or the Auriga crashing into France, per Alan Decker's grandfather in Sea of Sorrows. That's a clear case of unreliable narrator.

Although exactly where the Auriga hits Earth varies depending on what you're viewing/reading - in the film it hits Africa, in the novel it hits Australia, and in the junior novel it hits the Pacific Ocean.

The film is the most canon source, so... sorry, Africa!

Its not canon, it hasn't been for years now. Predators don't exist in the Alien universe and OOTS is part of the Shadow/Rage trilogy which was a part of the AVP universe. Besides Covenant added the final nail in the coffin for that series as well as doing the same to the fire and stone ones.
The tier system does not mean all are canon. Its a priority system to help know what is canon when there is contradiction, movies comes first and if they contradict the other media then that media not canon.


Regarding the Auriga's impact.
As Blue said too, it would not matter where the ship crashed. Something that big and hitting with such force does not cause "localized" damage, it creates "global" damage. Potentially even extinction level event. Earthquakes, tsunamies, climate affects by blocking out the sun.

EDIT.
Decided to check it out a little bit with chatgpt

Would This Be an Extinction-Level Event?

    Regional effects:

        A crater tens of kilometers wide (possibly larger than the 30 km Chicxulub crater).

        A shockwave that flattens everything within 1,000+ km.

        Firestorms, earthquakes, and tsunamis if it hit an ocean.

    Global effects:

        Massive atmospheric dust injection, leading to a nuclear winter-like effect (global cooling for months or years).

        Firestorms could inject COâ‚‚, leading to long-term warming.

        Massive ozone depletion from NOx compounds in the upper atmosphere.

While this wouldn't be as bad as the asteroid that wiped out the dinosaurs, it could devastate human civilization, leading to worldwide crop failures, mass extinctions of some species, and billions of deaths.
Final Answer

    If Auriga was just crashing uncontrolled → No extinction-level event, but catastrophic damage.

    If Auriga was deliberately accelerating toward Earth at high speed → A civilization-ending disaster, possibly an ELE.

At 10+ km/s with a mass of tens or hundreds of millions of tons, this could be on par with smaller asteroid impacts known to have caused mass extinctions. Not as bad as Chicxulub, but still potentially enough to collapse modern civilization.



Slutty Badger

Quote from: The Cruentus on Mar 26, 2025, 04:55:09 PMIts not canon, it hasn't been for years now. Predators don't exist in the Alien universe and OOTS is part of the Shadow/Rage trilogy which was a part of the AVP universe. Besides Covenant added the final nail in the coffin for that series as well as doing the same to the fire and stone ones.
The tier system does not mean all are canon. Its a priority system to help know what is canon when there is contradiction, movies comes first and if they contradict the other media then that media not canon.

Out of the Shadows is part of the Shadow Archive Trilogy and features no Predators, so it's canon to the Alien universe. Plus, it being part of the EU takes into account the RPG's explanation of David's Xenomorph being a variant strain and not the original creature.

The Cruentus

Its part of the Rage series, which means AVP, thus its not canon since Predators do not exist in the Alien universe.
The RPG is just bar-room canon, this has been explained before. I get that you like the RPG and it does explore some neat stuff but its not gospel. Its just fun hearsay and what-ifs with player choices influencing them, as per Gaska's comments on it. 

So as far as the movies and Ridley Scott is concerned, Aliens unfortunately did not exist before David. While I absolutely am looking forward to seeing this series contradict that since I hate what Covenant did, it still is only a tv series and may not be canon compared to the movies, which means Scott's stain will remain unless the higher ups can elevate it to replace the prequels

Local Trouble

Quote from: Slutty Badger on Mar 26, 2025, 06:41:28 PMOut of the Shadows is part of the Shadow Archive Trilogy and features no Predators, so it's canon to the Alien universe.

What about Colony War?

Slutty Badger

Quote from: Local Trouble on Mar 26, 2025, 07:56:46 PMWhat about Colony War?

Yup. Tier II. Basically canon until Sir Ridley or anyone else outright overrides it. Same with the RPG, to which Colony War is linked.

Local Trouble

Quote from: Slutty Badger on Mar 26, 2025, 08:10:28 PM
Quote from: Local Trouble on Mar 26, 2025, 07:56:46 PMWhat about Colony War?

Yup. Tier II. Basically canon until Sir Ridley or anyone else outright overrides it. Same with the RPG, to which Colony War is linked.

Well, that's a relief.  Colony War is excellent.

Prez

Quote from: Local Trouble on Mar 26, 2025, 05:17:36 AM... And I want elephant man, dammit!

Ironic that John Hurt was the father of our first Xeno (on screen) and also played John Merrick.

Slutty Badger

Quote from: The Cruentus on Mar 26, 2025, 07:44:55 PMIts part of the Rage series, which means AVP, thus its not canon since Predators do not exist in the Alien universe.
The RPG is just bar-room canon, this has been explained before. I get that you like the RPG and it does explore some neat stuff but its not gospel. Its just fun hearsay and what-ifs with player choices influencing them, as per Gaska's comments on it. 

The phrase "bar-room canon" applies to Myths and Legends. That's stuff that can be chalked up to being overheard in bars - stuff that likely didn't happen like the Herk Mondo comics, the Aliens omnibuses, unproduced Alien 3 scripts, Alien Trilogy, and so on. The only constant is that all of the locations exist in canon even if the events do not.

SM

Quote from: SiL on Mar 26, 2025, 12:25:31 PM
Quote from: SM on Mar 26, 2025, 11:26:44 AMAs is so often the case, without hubris we'd have no movie.
Firstly, ok, but did we need to justify this movie with hubris? Was this story really worth hubris-ing over?

Secondly, there are a lot of other things they could've been hubristic about, that might not have been obvious from the information they had.

"We knew they bled acid but holy shit did we not know how strong they were."

I do not disagree.

The Cruentus

Quote from: Slutty Badger on Mar 26, 2025, 09:37:47 PM
Quote from: The Cruentus on Mar 26, 2025, 07:44:55 PMIts part of the Rage series, which means AVP, thus its not canon since Predators do not exist in the Alien universe.
The RPG is just bar-room canon, this has been explained before. I get that you like the RPG and it does explore some neat stuff but its not gospel. Its just fun hearsay and what-ifs with player choices influencing them, as per Gaska's comments on it. 

The phrase "bar-room canon" applies to Myths and Legends. That's stuff that can be chalked up to being overheard in bars - stuff that likely didn't happen like the Herk Mondo comics, the Aliens omnibuses, unproduced Alien 3 scripts, Alien Trilogy, and so on. The only constant is that all of the locations exist in canon even if the events do not.


And Gaska said it applied to the RPG. Meaning nothing there is solid canon, it can be a nice background filler or window dressing on the lore etc and there is neat stuff here and there but its not to be taken as gospel. It would be like people taking the Aliens versus Predator Extinction bestiary as canon. Some things are just for gameplay and to fill out the world a bit, none of it is something movies have to care about (for better or worse), believe me I think most of us would be more than happy if it was canon that David did not create the original Aliens but merely an alternate strain.

Unless this show is given the same canon status as the movies and be allowed to ignore/erase the prequels, its not going to make much difference.

SM

Quote from: BlueMarsalis79 on Mar 26, 2025, 04:39:48 PMIf the Auriga actually crashed into Earth it becomes uninhabitable.

To quote Mass Effect

"X-57 is twice the size of the asteroid that wiped out the Earth's dinosaurs. It would be like millions of fusion bombs striking at once. With the heat of the blast, a thousand kilometers away, clothes would ignite. There'd be global wildfires. Air shock will flatten everything for hundreds of kilometers. Terra Nova will die, Shepard- not just our colony, the planet. There'll be a climate shift, mass extinctions, the ecosystem won't recover for thousands of years. Millions maybe."

The Auriga was way smaller than the asteroid that wiped out the dinosaurs and the Earth was still habitable after that.

SiL

For reference the asteroid that wiped out the dinosaurs was 10-15 kilometres across and the Auriga is 2.6km long (according to a wiki?)

Also TIL if you Google chicxulub crater you get an animation of the asteroid going across the screen and then the screen shakes.

Oasis Nadrama

It's going to have some interesting impact on climate and atmosphere, though.

I just wondered if a significant portion of the Auriga would burn before reaching the ground, but apparently not, because of its sheer mass and because of the protective layer. The bulk of it WILL reach France Australia Africa.


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