Romulus 4K

Started by Alien³, Dec 30, 2024, 11:48:39 PM

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Mike’s Monsters

Mike’s Monsters

#60
Having seen the Rook puppet in the rough cut before any augmentation, it definitely needed the CGI upgrade. It was much worse than the final product. It moved like a muppet.

Alien³

Alien³

#61
Yeah it's very disappointing.

Corporal Hicks

Corporal Hicks

#62
But that was also filmed with the intent it was going to be augmented in post so it didn't get the exact love Bishop did. I do wish they'd have gone the Bishop route though. But thankfully the home release has had those fixes.

Enjoy

Enjoy

#63
I just want colonial marines on a bug hunt and a predator tribe thrown in twords the middle of the film

atnightmostly

atnightmostly

#64
I'd read that they fixed the Ian Holm CGI for the Blu Ray.  I finally got around to my first rewatch and he still looks absolutely rubbish.

SiL

SiL

#65
They improved the shit to a different kind of shit

Agoddamnpercentage

Agoddamnpercentage

#66
Quote from: Corporal Hicks on Jan 19, 2025, 01:11:34 PMBut that was also filmed with the intent it was going to be augmented in post so it didn't get the exact love Bishop did. I do wish they'd have gone the Bishop route though. But thankfully the home release has had those fixes.

As much as I've got a soft spot for it, I do think we tend to look at the Bishop animatronic through rose-tinted glasses. The effect is creepy, but very of its time. It's a bit of a latex pancake, really, and I'm not sure audiences now would be so accepting.

SiL

SiL

#67
Bishop looks like what it is -- a crushed, decommissioned robot. It's rubbery and fake looking because it's been through a catastrophic landing and then dumped in a garbage heap exposed to the elements.

They tried too hard to make Rook look like Ian Holm, and not enough like a badly damaged android.

Slutty Badger

Slutty Badger

#68
Quote from: Agoddamnpercentage on Jan 26, 2025, 12:42:46 PMIt's a bit of a latex pancake, really, and I'm not sure audiences now would be so accepting.

Considering that "a latex pancake" is basically what Bishop had been reduced to at that point, I think the effect still holds up.

Agoddamnpercentage

Agoddamnpercentage

#69
That Bishop has been destroyed only gets you so far, I think. It's obviously made out of latex, and it's obvious that Lance Henriksen... isn't. The eye just doesn't quite accept it, I think, as the same object that we saw walking and talking a movie before, even in much worse shape.

SM

SM

#70
I wondered how they did Bishop in Alien 3 for a long time.  Initially thought it was elaborate make up back in 1992 - that's how real the mouth and eyes are.

Slutty Badger

Slutty Badger

#71
Quote from: Agoddamnpercentage on Jan 26, 2025, 03:09:31 PMThat Bishop has been destroyed only gets you so far, I think. It's obviously made out of latex, and it's obvious that Lance Henriksen... isn't. The eye just doesn't quite accept it, I think, as the same object that we saw walking and talking a movie before, even in much worse shape.

The fact that it's an animatronic works in its favour, since Bishop is technically an animatronic himself, albeit a highly advanced one. An artificial person, one might think.

And the effect was pulled off without giving him a weird floaty CGI face.

426Buddy

426Buddy

#72
Bishop is an example of a great effect that accomplishes exactly what its trying to achieve.

slipknotpredator

slipknotpredator

#73



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