Predator: Badlands opening November 7th, 2025!

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funk_master_chunk

funk_master_chunk

#105
Quote from: solace97 on Nov 03, 2024, 05:17:00 AM
Quote from: Corporal Hicks on Oct 30, 2024, 06:18:02 AM
Quote from: Nightmare Asylum on Oct 28, 2024, 01:09:04 AMI'm of the opposite mindset. If you're going to do something animated, then own that and lean into what you can do uniquely in that medium. Go heavily stylized, don't limit it to what can be done in live action (otherwise why not just do it in live action to begin with?).

I agree 100%. It's why I've always been so eager to see Alien vs./Predator in an anime format. I've long thought one of Predator's biggest strengths is its flexibility - in terms of story and design - and I think that extends to the visual styles. And we've seen that in a bunch of the Dark Horse comics. I say bring it on.

What would your ideal AVP story follow?

Assuming it's non-canonical, I'd love a straight re-hash of the AvP arcade game.

Lean into all the stuff which doesn't work in live action (namely the genetics) and have them clone anyone who's beat a Pred.

So Dutch was cloned from DNA in JH's fight with him or something. And they merge it with WY android tech and test the androids in battle scenarios against Xenos or something equally fun and outlandish.

So they have a WY Dutch they can replace and/or modify at will to go on hunting parties.

But they wind up using them/it to clear out nests as it has Dutch's battle prowess, Pred intel/mods/upgrades and WY android strength/durability.

I'd have the story something like a huge Xeno hive is beneath a WY settlement and there's something silly like a "Super Queen" and thousands of "Mega Xeno" eggs aboard a freighter due to leave the planet and it'd headed straight to Earth (because of course it is!)

So thus would serve to establish that the Preds have double the interest in this as they quite like hunting Xenos - but they also really like hunting Earthlings back on Earth! It'd allow them to be their usual violent selves - but would also cater to that little part of us all that wants to see them be the goodies too!

That all gives it the OTT, mega anime-style plot and then it becomes about the nice set-pieces you could have in an animation that just won't work on film.

So a scene to show the nest is so big that they do a Phantom Menace style shot where they show a load of different types of Dutch droids suspended in a lander of sorts and they start dropping them into the nest to clear it out. Classic Dutch. Hammerfist Dutch. Shoulder cannon Dutch. Sniper Dutch. Lightsaber Dutch etc. Then just have a f**king chaotic episode where this army of Dutches led by the Preds are obliterating the nest before they nuke it and the queen to bits (this would be where they found the Queen was aboard a ship or something).

But yeah - just go nuts with it.

BigDaddyJohn

An animated format gives you more freedom to go nuts and don't look silly. I hope it doesn't happen with this movie though, at least not too much.

Acid_Reign161

Quote from: solace97 on Nov 03, 2024, 05:17:00 AMWhat would your ideal AVP story follow?

For animated? I actually wouldn't mind them doing the Kenner / 'Operation: Aliens'(vs Predator) take, but aimed at adults;

So it's own separate canon, the characters drawn like the Operation: Aliens characters, but in the early 'Spawn' comics style (so that bright coloured comic book style but written seriously/ with adult themes as opposed to the kids take we got in the Kenner figure comics) and of course it'd feature all of the best Kenner xeno / predator variants in their respective stories.

funk_master_chunk

Quote from: Acid_Reign161 on Nov 14, 2024, 01:47:58 PM
Quote from: solace97 on Nov 03, 2024, 05:17:00 AMWhat would your ideal AVP story follow?

For animated? I actually wouldn't mind them doing the Kenner / 'Operation: Aliens'(vs Predator) take, but aimed at adults;

So it's own separate canon, the characters drawn like the Operation: Aliens characters, but in the early 'Spawn' comics style (so that bright coloured comic book style but written seriously/ with adult themes as opposed to the kids take we got in the Kenner figure comics) and of course it'd feature all of the best Kenner xeno / predator variants in their respective stories.


That'd be immense!

Did any of that footage ever leak? I remember buying the toys as a kid and thinking WTF are these? Then when I got older I looked into it amd it looks like there are stills and a Korean company was used to create at least a pilot episode.

Would absolutely love to see that.

Acid_Reign161

Quote from: funk_master_chunk on Nov 14, 2024, 04:23:06 PM
Quote from: Acid_Reign161 on Nov 14, 2024, 01:47:58 PM
Quote from: solace97 on Nov 03, 2024, 05:17:00 AMWhat would your ideal AVP story follow?

For animated? I actually wouldn't mind them doing the Kenner / 'Operation: Aliens'(vs Predator) take, but aimed at adults;

So it's own separate canon, the characters drawn like the Operation: Aliens characters, but in the early 'Spawn' comics style (so that bright coloured comic book style but written seriously/ with adult themes as opposed to the kids take we got in the Kenner figure comics) and of course it'd feature all of the best Kenner xeno / predator variants in their respective stories.


That'd be immense!

Did any of that footage ever leak? I remember buying the toys as a kid and thinking WTF are these? Then when I got older I looked into it amd it looks like there are stills and a Korean company was used to create at least a pilot episode.

Would absolutely love to see that.

Sadly there was no pilot; it turns out it was all an urban myth; the animation produced where all of the screenshots come from was intended to be used in the TV commercials for the toys but never was; instead we got movie footage in the commercials; I believe Kenner *wanted* an animated series (and I believe it was pitched? Someone correct me if I'm wrong?) but Fox wasn't interested.😅

Cool to note; we nearly got an 'Alien III' Kenner toy range too (I was looking over some interesting concept sketches for unproduced toys) but they dropped the idea when the movie underperformed and continued using the 'Aliens' brand instead (it seemed to have a lot of pull; that's why all the Predator figures released in European territories still had 'Aliens' logo above Predator on the backing cards, and the later series simply envisioned as 'Hive Wars' became 'Aliens Hive Wars' :-)

Corporal Hicks

Corporal Hicks

#110
Quote from: solace97 on Nov 03, 2024, 05:17:00 AM
Quote from: Corporal Hicks on Oct 30, 2024, 06:18:02 AM
Quote from: Nightmare Asylum on Oct 28, 2024, 01:09:04 AMI'm of the opposite mindset. If you're going to do something animated, then own that and lean into what you can do uniquely in that medium. Go heavily stylized, don't limit it to what can be done in live action (otherwise why not just do it in live action to begin with?).

I agree 100%. It's why I've always been so eager to see Alien vs./Predator in an anime format. I've long thought one of Predator's biggest strengths is its flexibility - in terms of story and design - and I think that extends to the visual styles. And we've seen that in a bunch of the Dark Horse comics. I say bring it on.

What would your ideal AVP story follow?

I've never really thought about it specifics - but I'd love to see them actually adapt the first series properly. I'll never not be disappointed that was the original plan for the AvP anime, until they got Aramaki involved. If we're going specifically anime, I'd also love to see them go dialogue-less and just focus on the "hunt" between an Alien and a Predator where it's a very back-and-forth, with each brief encounter having a last impact on the creatures, until the final clash. 



Quote from: RoguePred1987 on Nov 05, 2024, 07:19:55 AMin fairness we'll never know what the shelved AVP anime is really like until we actually see it. hearing the American producer's comments on it was really disheartening but it also, at least to me, sounded like they were making a point of tearing down the final product. it's entirely possible that a lot of people might like or even love it if it's given a chance.

I think what they've told us about the series gives us a good indication of quality as well, though. I'm firmly in the camp of keep it locked up.


Quote from: Acid_Reign161 on Nov 14, 2024, 01:47:58 PM
Quote from: solace97 on Nov 03, 2024, 05:17:00 AMWhat would your ideal AVP story follow?

For animated? I actually wouldn't mind them doing the Kenner / 'Operation: Aliens'(vs Predator) take, but aimed at adults;

So it's own separate canon, the characters drawn like the Operation: Aliens characters, but in the early 'Spawn' comics style (so that bright coloured comic book style but written seriously/ with adult themes as opposed to the kids take we got in the Kenner figure comics) and of course it'd feature all of the best Kenner xeno / predator variants in their respective stories.

I'd be all over that. Make it very clear it's a fun "what if" kind of scenario, and just lean into that Kenner approach. Man, that'd be so much fun!


Quote from: Acid_Reign161 on Nov 14, 2024, 05:42:13 PM
Quote from: funk_master_chunk on Nov 14, 2024, 04:23:06 PM
Quote from: Acid_Reign161 on Nov 14, 2024, 01:47:58 PM
Quote from: solace97 on Nov 03, 2024, 05:17:00 AMWhat would your ideal AVP story follow?

For animated? I actually wouldn't mind them doing the Kenner / 'Operation: Aliens'(vs Predator) take, but aimed at adults;

So it's own separate canon, the characters drawn like the Operation: Aliens characters, but in the early 'Spawn' comics style (so that bright coloured comic book style but written seriously/ with adult themes as opposed to the kids take we got in the Kenner figure comics) and of course it'd feature all of the best Kenner xeno / predator variants in their respective stories.


That'd be immense!

Did any of that footage ever leak? I remember buying the toys as a kid and thinking WTF are these? Then when I got older I looked into it amd it looks like there are stills and a Korean company was used to create at least a pilot episode.

Would absolutely love to see that.

Sadly there was no pilot; it turns out it was all an urban myth; the animation produced where all of the screenshots come from was intended to be used in the TV commercials for the toys but never was; instead we got movie footage in the commercials; I believe Kenner *wanted* an animated series (and I believe it was pitched? Someone correct me if I'm wrong?) but Fox wasn't interested.😅

Kenner pitched Fox the concept. Fox Kids was interested, Fox's theatrical department were not.

https://www.avpgalaxy.net/website/articles/the-operation-aliens-conspiracy/

RoguePred1987

unfortunately, unless there's someone empowered to enable certain kinds of projects, the theatrical side of a studio will always take precedent over the television side.

David

9 months

David

7 months

RoguePred1987

less than 7 months now

Preydator

210 days to be precise

Predalien39

Predalien39

#116
I still think either Predator: Badlands or Running Man will end up changing dates.
I doubt they will end up releasing on the same day.
Here's hoping Predator gets pulled up.
Some dates in August are still kind of open.  August 22nd sounds nice.

BlueMarsalis79

I much prefer Predator as a summer film.

Preydator

Quote from: Predalien39 on Apr 12, 2025, 02:14:12 AMI still think either Predator: Badlands or Running Man will end up changing dates.
I doubt they will end up releasing on the same day.
Here's hoping Predator gets pulled up.
Some dates in August are still kind of open.  August 22nd sounds nice.

I don't know, I don't feel like both of these movies are a threat to each other. They'll both be fine releasing at the same time.

BigDaddyJohn

I'll take an earlier release no problem.

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