Can Aliens develop a civilised society?

Started by Immortan Jonesy, Mar 29, 2022, 12:36:34 AM

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Immortan Jonesy

Immortan Jonesy

Do you thing the Aliens can envolve (millions of years I guess) enough to developing tool use, sophisticated communication, creative expression through art and even complex societies?

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SiL

Dan O'Bannon said yes.

Immortan Jonesy

Quote from: SiL on Mar 29, 2022, 12:41:24 AM
Dan O'Bannon said yes.

Oh yeah, his original idea was that the Space Jockey had nothing to do with the Alien other than being an unlucky victim prior to the encounter with the humans. A civilization developed by a sapien species of ancient parasites, whose adolescent state is a deadly beast.

With that in mind, I was thinking that if we're talking about new ideas for movies, I think this one qualifies as that. I mean, Prometheus is AVP's pretty sister, and while Covenant took a new, albeit controversial, direction with the Alien, at the end of the day it's just another movie where damn humans intercept a signal, bad things happen, licensed ripoff happens and new variants of the same monster see the light of day once again from Aliens to Prometheus:P

But when was the last time someone really reimagined the Alien? In any case, how an idea works depends on many factors, from execution to format. But it's interesting to think about it. 🤔

The Necronoir

At its most basic level, they already are 'civilised', in the sense that they defer their individual needs for the betterment of their hive society. Like ants and termites, they delegate tasks, build structures, and used other organisms for their own benefit as well.

When you start bringing notions of 'sophisticated culture' into the equation, you start buying into the colonial era idea of 'civilised' peoples, which was little more than a way to claim superiority and justify brutality. In that respect, Ripley was right to compare them favourably to people like Burke...

Voodoo Magic

I think this is canon, soooo yes!!!


BlueMarsalis79

Quote from: The Necronoir on Apr 09, 2022, 11:02:39 AM
At its most basic level, they already are 'civilised', in the sense that they defer their individual needs for the betterment of their hive society. Like ants and termites, they delegate tasks, build structures, and used other organisms for their own benefit as well.

When you start bringing notions of 'sophisticated culture' into the equation, you start buying into the colonial era idea of 'civilised' peoples, which was little more than a way to claim superiority and justify brutality. In that respect, Ripley was right to compare them favourably to people like Burke...

All of the above, our conception of intelligence's coloured by our perception, our biases.

Kimarhi

I've never liked the idea of them becoming anything like us.  So I guess it depends on our take of civilization. 

Hard to imagine an Alien running home from the department of capturing humans office to pick up baby facehugger from pre implantation school before mama queen comes home from being at the egg factory all day. 

AllofremndKing

They can very well develop into a proper civilization. In fact the novel that im trying to work on depicts that happening far down the line. I like the idea of this being possible. They can become much more than what they are labeled and designed as.

BlueMarsalis79

Leave that to The Perfected honestly, again they are already an advanced civilisation just one beyond our biases, our conceptions of intelligence.

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