https://www.space.com/should-disney-reboot-alien-vs-predator
QuoteNext up for the Alien and Predator franchises are a TV series led by Noah Hawley and a new film titled Prey respectively. Both stories appear to be breaking away from previous instalments and looking to expand their universes' horizons. While all that sounds like a refreshing change of pace, there may be something worth recovering from the pasts of these two iconic space creatures. So, should Disney reboot Alien vs. Predator?
Yes. Yes, they should.
Hard yes.
Let's not make it PG 13 please.
I'd be much happier if the franchises stayed in separate lanes.
Prey seems to finally be getting the Predator series back on track in exciting ways after the last couple movies, Covenant molded the Alien prequels into something I'm genuinely interested in, and the Hawley show has me feeling pretty cautiously optimistic right now.
Not itching for a crossover anytime soon.
Please let this idea die, and we dont get another avp movie.
As if Disney would turn down the opportunity for another shared universe...
Make another AvP movie, hell yeah. But do it right this time
Eight more years to go and I'm set.
Time to start pre-production?
Quote from: Kradan on Jan 13, 2022, 04:41:55 PM
But do it right this time
So you mean a direct adaptation of the original comic, with any sequels swerving hard away from War, then, right?
Quote from: Local Trouble on Jan 13, 2022, 09:41:33 PM
Time to start pre-production?
I've already got ADI doing concepts.
Quote from: [cancerblack] on Jan 13, 2022, 09:47:32 PM
Quote from: Kradan on Jan 13, 2022, 04:41:55 PM
But do it right this time
So you mean a direct adaptation of the original comic, with any sequels swerving hard away from War, then, right?
No, a 1:1 faithful adaptation of DOTS.
I don't care too much about adapting original comics. Just treat creatures with more respect than two monsters punching each other. They should feel like a mythological beasts that fought for centuries, please no Predators encountering Aliens for the first time bullshit. I might get heat for it, but as far as, lore additions go, I think 2004 movie did a good job. I love whole "ancient aliens" angle of it, Predators teaching humans how to build pyramids, re-nterpreting sacrificial rituals of civilisations long gone as being merely a part of Predators hunting routine etc. I would love these concepts being explored further by a better filmmaker
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Oh, and set it in the future
Quote from: Local Trouble on Jan 13, 2022, 09:59:26 PM
Quote from: [cancerblack] on Jan 13, 2022, 09:47:32 PM
Quote from: Kradan on Jan 13, 2022, 04:41:55 PM
But do it right this time
So you mean a direct adaptation of the original comic, with any sequels swerving hard away from War, then, right?
No, a 1:1 faithful adaptation of DOTS.
Any sreenwriter who would be able to make sense out of that comic alredy worthy of some award
It may be the only thing that'll lure SM out of seclusion.
ohf**k
Will the bugmen be authentically golden-age or will the studio insist on modernising them like they do with superhero stuff?
It'll be a modern design that's evocative of the golden age styling, respecting the original work while dumping all over it.
Kills me a bit inside that the last golden age looking science fiction I can remember's honestly Prometheus in places.
Dem bobble helmets, unf.
An AVP television series. And that's it.
Quote from: BlueMarsalis79 on Jan 14, 2022, 12:18:18 AM
Kills me a bit inside that the last golden age looking science fiction I can remember's honestly Prometheus in places.
Quote from: [cancerblack] on Jan 14, 2022, 11:22:31 PM
Dem bobble helmets, unf.
Sexiest space suits on screen, well... ever.
aye to reboot please
I've come around to the idea of an AvP animated series these last few years, seeing the mature animations produced by Netflix. There was that rumor that Netflix already finished the first season of an animated AvP.
Disney just has to work out the legal issues and release that on Disney Plus if that's possible.
Then I guess the Predators are teenage mutant ninja crabs.
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I'm not sure who're you trying to piss off: me or Voodoo ? :D
Two birds in one shot :laugh:
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Heck yes!
If by "reboot" they just mean "give us more AVP in every possible medium", then yes, yes they should.
I think it means ignore the prior films.
In that case, also yes.
Depending on success of the upcoming Predator (Prey) and Alien movies, we may very well get a AVP reboot from Disney and I feel we really should, but please be R rating (I know rating isn't everything) and please look at the games and comics to truly understand the property and give us the crossover we deserve. Aw and not on EARTH!!
I'd be down for that.
Quote from: Space_Dementia on Jul 24, 2022, 03:31:56 PMAw and not on EARTH!!
If someone deletes AvP and AvPR then gives me either Ryushi or LV-1201 I will name my next bastard after them.
Non-Earth and Colonial Marines seem to be a safe bet at least.
But yes, Prey doing well would get the grinds rolling.
Also for Terminator 7 (or is it 6?).
They'd probably do it...
Not in the way I'd like though.
Guys it's fine I've got this. Just 8 more years.
Quote from: [cancerblack] on Jul 24, 2022, 08:20:54 PMIf someone deletes AvP and AvPR then gives me either Ryushi or LV-1201 I will name my next bastard after them.
@SiL, you've got this ?
Fine, I'll bite. >:(
I'll only accept an AVP Reboot EVEN if it dismisses AVP and AVP-R but ONLY if it doesn't count PREDATORS, The Predator, Prometheus and Covenant as part of it's continuity.
No Predator sub-species. No Engineers. No black slime.
There, I said it.
I'm still so desperate to see that simple AvP story. Whether it's an adaptation of the comic or not, I just want a simple narrative that just does the clash justice following the bare basics from the comic. It wouldn't even have to actively go out of its way to ignore any of the previous entries. Just good character and good set pieces and monster action.
My current version is entirely stand alone but also fits in whatever the f**k continuity occurs in the future.
#SiLForAvP
Quote from: SiL on Jul 25, 2022, 07:43:46 AMMy current version is entirely stand alone but also fits in whatever the f**k continuity occurs in the future.
This is the correct answer.
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Dark horse comix
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Or another AvP include Prometheus and Covenant!
If it will be on earth
Please make it about Soldiers!
Or just dark like logan.
As of late Disney brings a bad taste in my mouth wether it be by feeling the need to insert politics in everything or just doing a terrible job i.e. star wars.
That being said i would be hesitant for them to reboot or create anything with either of the 2. If thier anything like thier new alien and predator comics then PLEASE NOO! However they can win me back by making a movie based of the comic of the Elder (greyback) backstory with the flintlock.
Honestly, after enduring the insults that were the AvP films, us fans have gotten some pretty damn good content.
At least I've gotten so much of what I want already: AvP and AvP-R stricken from continuity (thank you Alien Covenant). A new predator film set in the past (I made a fake trailer using scenes from Apocalypto, AvP and Predator as a proof of concept of this ages ago. So happy to see it being made), and a new Alien film and TV series announced. The only thing that needs to be done is for Ridley Scott to finish his prequel trilogy.
Aliens vs. Predator is absolutely a viable concept.
Saying it could never be done well is like saying the Predator concept is trash because look at The Predator
This is what I want. But no need for a reboot. Keep the continuity - just make good movies.
They already rebooted it, Feral's technology's meant to be a precursor to Predator 1987, particularly the wrist computer. Having a more primitive iteration of the explosive. That obviously contradicts AVP 2004, and by extension also AVP Requiem, AVP 2010 and everyone's absolute favourite The Predator, then on the Alien side of things you have the whole Peter Weyland thing contradicting AVP as well.
So it will absolutely be a reboot in some fashion when they get around to AVP.
I swear to God, "aVp IsN't CaNoN" is like a second coming of "tHeY kIlLeD hIcKs AnD nEwT"
It's really not lol
Quote from: Kradan on Aug 12, 2022, 12:46:21 PMI swear to God, "aVp IsN't CaNoN" is like a second coming of "tHeY kIlLeD hIcKs AnD nEwT"
Because it upsets people?
I guess it does
Dunno about PRey contradicting its later movies, he had some technology like cloak that was way better at hiding than jungle hunters was and wrist computer to me seemed not older but just different options, he was supposed to kill himself if we go after what previous movies teached us. :P But anyway to me prey work well with the lore and dont changes anything, his design is explained by the artist and team behind it so it works, lore wise I have no issues with it. Which is damn impressive.
AVP movies I see as spinn offs, maybe only canon to the predator lore, alien nope nope, not same universe or whatever predator fans claims. :P
I hope they will make AvP canon! For A and P!
And will make fusion
Space horror Universe!
I just want a new good film honestly, my only reason to want AVP 2004 out's I feel Lance Henrikson actually makes his appearances in Aliens and Alien³ have not as much gravitas, by virtue of it making the franchise feel not as grounded and overly orchestrated for him to be the whole founder of the corporation. That and I don't like the PredAlien as it is presented in AVP Requiem.
Make it in the future. Long as it keeps in the future of 2100s, then I'm peachy keen. We already seen how using the modern setting not only doesn't work but the fanbase never wanted a present day story. Always been about offworld colonies, unknown worlds, colonial marines, and all that feeling.
Now if people wonder about using concepts from past films like the super predators, engineers, black goo, and all of that, guess it depends on the context of how it's used in the films. Super Predators isn't a bad idea on it's own, a rogue criminal element of Predator society that doesn't follow the rules of their people and wage war with other clans is a fine idea, just not fully explored as it could have. Black goo is also isn't that bad in my eyes, fits with how Engineers are that, engineers of making violent life in violent ways. Engineers from Prometheus.....tall pale bluish humans I still don't like it as much. The ancient astronauts idea just makes the Alien Universe that much smaller and keeps humans as "the chosen ones" aspect instead of humans finding out how scary and messed up the galaxy is and how we shouldn't mess around with what we don't know.
Just keep it in future space, that's all I ask for and I'm good, please!
The setting has to be exciting. The pyramid was something exotic - I didn't mind that. But we need something totally different now, and not something boring like an American town.
Hell no to making a new aliens vs predator movie.
Dont want the two franchises to be canon to eachother, prometheus and covenant has already shown they cant and I prefer it so.
As a standalone crossover thing maybe but I dont see an avp movie set in the future could be good for both creatures and humans as they will get lore and the creatures wrong or one creature will be biased to be better than the other.
Looking at you AVPR....
Colonial marines would easily have the upper hand in a such case, but any director will have to dumb them down or make predators somehow better to make a movie work, else it would be a cake walk for the marines: radar that can see cloaked predator ships, troops having infra red sights on weapons and on their helmets so any cloaked predator can be seen for miles out, camera and drones that can detect predators, motion tracker. Pulse rifle with explosive tip and armour pericing, gonna kill a predator with a burst when we know small arms fire can kill a predator.(looking at you super predator and feral and jungle hunter.) Smart guns that can also track predators. nukes and missiles, atack ships, tanks, helicopters etc.
While predators use the same technology they always used as I havent seen their tech develop at all for thousands of years if we follow movies and comics. Unless they now show up with power suit armour and teleporting abilities and jamming devices and suborbite fighter planes of their own and nuclear weapons to be able to engage long range ship to ship fights?
So yeah full on military war in the future I dont see how the marines can lose unless the movie maker comes up with excuses like: marines cant somehow see cloaked ships or predators and they can absorb pulse rifle shots like if they were bb guns.....
Quote from: judge death on Aug 20, 2022, 04:06:05 AMColonial marines would easily have the upper hand in a such case, but any director will have to dumb them down or make predators somehow better to make a movie work, else it would be a cake walk for the marines: radar that can see cloaked predator ships, troops having infra red sights on weapons and on their helmets so any cloaked predator can be seen for miles out, camera and drones that can detect predators, motion tracker. Pulse rifle with explosive tip and armour pericing, gonna kill a predator with a burst when we know small arms fire can kill a predator.(looking at you super predator and feral and jungle hunter.) Smart guns that can also track predators. nukes and missiles, atack ships, tanks, helicopters etc.
While predators use the same technology they always used as I havent seen their tech develop at all for thousands of years if we follow movies and comics. Unless they now show up with power suit armour and teleporting abilities and jamming devices and suborbite fighter planes of their own and nuclear weapons to be able to engage long range ship to ship fights?
So yeah full on military war in the future I dont see how the marines can lose unless the movie maker comes up with excuses like: marines cant somehow see cloaked ships or predators and they can absorb pulse rifle shots like if they were bb guns.....
If Prey shown anything, is that their tech has been improving between 1719 to 1987. Not to mention that one can easily just write new tech and weapons for the Predator to use? Not to mention many games in the past had Marine tech that even some things up against Predators but Preds still have the upperhand. Nah, its easy to create new ideas for the film. Hell, even the concept of the shield from Prey, can be upgraded to resisting marine pulse rifle fire via a new alloy that tanks their armor piercing bullets like nothing. Cloaking that not only resists ankle deep water like in Prey but also conceal the heat of the Predator from other infrared visions of other beings. EMP bombs that can mess with aim tracking weaponry, and much more. The film can always expand more, I see nothing in how it cannot be possible.
We dont see them develop that, feral didnt have anything better than the original predator from avp movies had, plasma caster, cloaking that is better than feral had back in the mayan age, and greyback was back to same time period and had his tech, if we check the comics they have been back to pirate age, predating feral and had their advanced tech they use to this day. Its contradicting development, as they seem to be stand still in their tech for thousands of years.
their ships are same design as they came to earth thousands of years ago to what they use in the latest predator movie.
All other claims is what if and nothing we saw in the movie or previous predator movies shown to be possible, havent seen predators using emps or having armour that is so strong.
Going after what we have seen, not what ifs.
The mistake is canon. If it's just it's own thing (uh... like the original comic) it can't contradict or f**k anything else, even if you do wanna canon.
The misspelling?
Huh?
Wha ?
The mistake is trying to adhere to/care about canon.
That's what I was trying to say, yes.
Oh okay.
Quote from: [cancerblack] on Jan 13, 2022, 09:47:32 PMQuote from: Kradan on Jan 13, 2022, 04:41:55 PMBut do it right this time
So you mean a direct adaptation of the original comic, with any sequels swerving hard away from War, then, right?
It makes me sad that we had such great source material but Hollywood continually f**ked the IP.
But yes, Reboot into AvP Comic story please
They definitely need to reboot it, start from scratch and build a proper and stable foundation that keeps to the lore and doesn't deviate from it like Requiem did. In all honesty I think even the alien franchise should be rebooted, or at least trimmed. Remove the prequels and Resurrection, with Alien 3 being a maybe.