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Beautiful
I assume/hope we're going to be getting a nice spread and some coverage of the new film in this issue then! I like it! Looks good!
I'm a subscriber. If there's no delay or embargo on the release of the issue I should have some snaps up on Monday.
Fantastic! Thank you as always, Gazz.
Quote from: Gazz on Jul 06, 2018, 11:20:21 AM
I'm a subscriber. If there's no delay or embargo on the release of the issue I should have some snaps up on Monday.
Try to make it sooner. ;) Thanks for your continued support!
Looks awesome. I'm getting some serious MGS3 (snake eater) vibes here.
Awesome cover! I like the skulls/trophies thrown into the mix there, good classic vibe and feels more in line with the predator lore ;D
Cool! Can't wait to see what stills they'll have.
That's good very good
Please tell me there's gonna be a poster of this.
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Cool pictures! Thanks! :)
God, how FAR BETTER a Predator looks when he is in proper environment!
The film's best moments will be the scenes in the Stargazer lab.
wow! ...now let's all laugh at the naysayers who were quick to dismiss the design after looking at amateur shots of a promotional statue :D
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Proper finish and lighting goes a long way.
Will check the article next week, but I'll just wait those weeks that remain now.
I'm really digging that full in costume picture. Looks great! Eager to see the article. Hopefully we'll get a bunch more of new stills.
Hoping HE doesn't fire that rifle ???
I agree von but it seems like all the naysayers are no longer naysayers. Funny that....
https://twitter.com/BBLovesHorror/status/1016260657862397953
Quote from: YTL_Hunter_H2 on Jul 09, 2018, 10:17:46 AM
Hoping HE doesn't fire that rifle ???
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He will use human weapons (machine gun IIRC, maybe that one in the picture) inside the facility according to the script.
I loved that in Big Game, and I'll no doubt love it in this. They're intelligent creatures! I'm still gutted we didn't get Briggs' AvP and get to see Broken Tusk rocking a Pulse Rifle momentarily.
Yeah if humans in sci-fi films can somehow fire alien weapons, why wouldn't a Predator be able to fire a rifle? 😂
Quote from: von on Jul 09, 2018, 10:47:30 AM
Yeah if humans in sci-fi films can somehow fire alien weapons, why wouldn't a Predator be able to fire a rifle? 😂
Does he have enough tiny-thin finger to pull the trigger? :P
Or maybe he will use his talon to do that. ;D How comic would it be? :P :D ;D
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Quote from: von on Jul 09, 2018, 10:47:30 AM
Yeah if humans in sci-fi films can somehow fire alien weapons, why wouldn't a Predator be able to fire a rifle? 😂
Does he have enough tiny-thin finger to pull the trigger? :P
Or maybe he will use his talon to do that. ;D How comic would it be? :P :D ;D
lol possible. how cool would it be if a human gets his hand melted or burnt off the moment he touches predator weaponry
Quote from: Thedutchpredator on Jul 09, 2018, 10:18:25 AM
I agree von but it seems like all the naysayers are no longer naysayers. Funny that....
as long as people are talking about the movie, it's all good! curiosity and mystery will draw in the crowds. here's hoping it'll be a reasonable hit critically and commercially!
He did use it in the script. I cringed reading that. Didn't like it in the big game comic either
is this in the same magazine we got the first stills from them? because I never saw this in the book stores yet
Looks so badass! I can tell these will probably be some of my favorite scenes. He better fire that rifle. ;D
Quote from: PredBabe on Jul 09, 2018, 11:28:18 AM
Looks so badass! I can tell these will probably be some of my favorite scenes. He better fire that rifle. ;D
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He will. ;)
Is it just me or does he have the beginnings of some graying dreds? Even the NECA figure shows some grey on the ends of his dreds.
Quote from: The Wolverine Predator on Jul 09, 2018, 11:24:12 AM
is this in the same magazine we got the first stills from them? because I never saw this in the book stores yet
Different issue of the same magazine. It's not out in the stores until Thursday.
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is this in the same magazine we got the first stills from them? because I never saw this in the book stores yet
Different issue of the same magazine. It's not out in the stores until Thursday.
I never even found the last one
Quote from: Sabres21768 on Jul 09, 2018, 11:41:39 AM
Is it just me or does he have the beginnings of some graying dreds? Even the NECA figure shows some grey on the ends of his dreds.
I can't speak for the NECA figures, but in the magazine it could just be lighting. I haven't noticed graying in any of the other images uploaded so far, not that I'd be opposed :) I sort of like the idea of having a slightly older and wiser Predator take the lead.
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Quote from: von on Jul 09, 2018, 09:50:40 AM
wow! ...now let's all laugh at the naysayers who were quick to dismiss the design after looking at amateur shots of a promotional statue :D
Lol yup, looks 1000 times better in the film. I love the pic of the guy flying through the air.
Oh shit! Thanks for scanning the whole thing, Gazz!
Sounds like Shane Black is as tired of the Ben Kingsley joke as I am.
Sigh... So upgrade is really the result of trying to make the Predator scary again. That's... disappointing. So what happens after this Movie? Upgrade obviously won't be scary anymore. What's gonna be the next step for the evolution of the Predator? Are they gonna adapt the four armed Predator from the comics? Will the next one be a cyborg, half machine/half Predator? Kaiju Predators?!
I fear we're gonna end up with another 10 year hiatus after this Movie.
So
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no victoria's secret chopper ? :'(
I can't say I'm a huge fan of the design. It's not bad looking at all, I just prefer less armor on the Predator. From the script tho, the stuff at the Stargazer lab was some of the best parts.
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I really liked when the Predator kills one scientist, cuts off his head and hand to get through the door scanners and even mimics his the scientist's voice as well. It's like something straight out of the recent AVP game
Quote from: Dusk on Jul 09, 2018, 01:26:18 PM
Sigh... So upgrade is really the result of trying to make the Predator scary again. That's... disappointing. So what happens after this Movie? Upgrade obviously won't be scary anymore. What's gonna be the next step for the evolution of the Predator? Are they gonna adapt the four armed Predator from the comics? Will the next one be a cyborg, half machine/half Predator? Kaiju Predators?!
I fear we're gonna end up with another 10 year hiatus after this Movie.
Yeah, I side-eyed that part of the article, too. It doesn't seem very creative to say "in order to make this deadly, mysterious alien hunter scary and threatening and interesting, we have to just make a BIGGER and BADASS-ER version!" It feels like style over substance.
Complaints aside, that dim photo of him in the ship looks great, very atmospheric. I'm not sure if the mask seems a bit small, or if it's just the angle...? I brightened it up to get a better look and you can see the bottom of his mandibles and everything. Of course I love the shot of him wrecking people in the lab, really looking forward to those scenes.
Quote from: yautjapet on Jul 09, 2018, 01:44:23 PM
Yeah, I side-eyed that part of the article, too. It doesn't seem very creative to say "in order to make this deadly, mysterious alien hunter scary and threatening and interesting, we have to just make a BIGGER and BADASS-ER version!" It feels like style over substance.
It's such a typical Hollywood way of thinking. I expected better from Black.
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Will looks like complete crap. It's all bells and whistles with zero substance. Character designers today are suffering from marvel shades, in which everything they design looks like a marvel movie suit. Not a single unique creative bone left in their bodies. Such a shame a wasted opportunity
Quote from: brokentusk420 on Jul 09, 2018, 03:26:04 PM
Will looks like complete crap. It's all bells and whistles with zero substance. Character designers today are suffering from marvel shades, in which everything they design looks like a marvel movie suit. Not a single unique creative bone left in their bodies. Such a shame a wasted opportunity
Idk, I think the suit looks good for this movie. Not what I'd expect for a Predator but I'm totally OK with this being a one time thing. It suits what we expect for this particular Predator in any event. (Now going forward, yeah I'd hope for some more traditional suits.)
the overall design looks nice. It gets better better minute.
but the lower part with the mandibles. Oh my..
I'm most confused by the bolts from the planet earth on the mask ...
The more I see of the Fugitive Predator, the more I love the design. Just...perfect, also the more I like it, the more I am losing my f**king mind over this Upgrade Predator bullshit.
This is not how you "return the classic creature to former glory". Ruin it sure.
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The cover mentions new weapons, can anyone who've read it share anything on that ?
What the hell happened to Keyes' left hand? :laugh: ;)
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OK, I checked it more carefully. He is injured and ties his wound down.
Quote from: von on Jul 09, 2018, 09:50:40 AM
wow! ...now let's all laugh at the naysayers who were quick to dismiss the design after looking at amateur shots of a promotional statue :D
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It still looks kinda nay...
It's specially interesting to see Black letting us know how he's fully aware of possible fan backlash and just what they will backlash. Another reason why I think we shouldn't go assuming we know everything about the movie and how it will portray the Predators, and the plot. I can't wait to see this.
Honestly, this new black and gold predator is my favorite predator design yet. It just looks so cool. And Larry Fong has photographed him so beautifully.
I know the running party line of this movie is it's good because it's different but here's the problem. If you're going to replace something iconic the replacement needs to be better or at least as good. So far the art design of this movie and the new and "improved" Predator aesthetic is painfully generic. This looks like something the Disney worker drones would churn out for MCU Entry #5274-B. It's boring. It doesn't copy the original aesthetic, it doesn't provide an equaling appealing alternative like P2 did, and it doesn't surpass it. It doesn't even try to. It pure, undiluted modern Hollywood mediocrity.
UndeadJoe... agree 100% it's stale as hell... bland and I guess personality to match
nun-nuh-nun-nuh-nun-nuh-nun-nuh.....Bat Pred!
It's going to be hard to invested in Captured at all when we know for a fact he's nothing but a punching bag for Upgrade, a concept that was dumb in 2010 and remains dumb today.
Does anyone with an IQ above room temperature really expect that stupid Upgrade thing to become the new face of the Predator franchise? Remember in Jp3 when they brought in the Spinosaurus to brutally kill the Rex because some genius involved in that movie thought the Spinodaurus was going to be the new face of the franchise? And then people hated that movie and the JP died for over a decade so they brought the Rex back to help fight off the Upgradeasaurus? This is like that if Universal had decided to double down on its own stupidity and have the genetic mutant dinosaur kill the Rex and the Raptors.
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This guy looks so slik and cool... if the upgrade kills him off like the superpred killed of the classic one in Predators, I'm gonna walk right out of that theatre.
Quote from: UndeadJoe on Jul 09, 2018, 08:18:31 PM
It's going to be hard to invested in Captured at all when we know for a fact he's nothing but a punching bag for Upgrade, a concept that was dumb in 2010 and remains dumb today.
Does anyone with an IQ above room temperature really expect that stupid Upgrade thing to become the new face of the Predator franchise? Remember in Jp3 when they brought in the Spinosaurus to brutally kill the Rex because some genius involved in that movie thought the Spinodaurus was going to be the new face of the franchise? And then people hated that movie and the JP died for over a decade so they brought the Rex back to help fight off the Upgradeasaurus? This is like that if Universal had decided to double down on its own stupidity and have the genetic mutant dinosaur kill the Rex and the Raptors.
As an added twist, they had Rex bust her way through the spinosaurous skeleton. If that isn't an "i'm sorry" to the audience, I don't know what is...
There is no way that he would go the same route they did in Predator's; where the superpred murders classic outright. That would be a horrible direction to take. However these predators are going to be less hill billy poacher and a lot more civilized.
Perhaps super pred is here to rescue captured pred for his "knowledge" and the other predators are here to kill captured because he is very dangerous, a lot more than human's could imagine.
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This is basically Ironman 3 all over again. First they push the Mandarin front and center, only to reveal halfway into the movie that he's not the main antagonist. At least in this scenario, it won't be revealed that the Predator is some out of shape actor. That Black would honestly dare to pull that move twice.
I'm still unmoved that the armor and bio mask looks terrible. Sadly I think this is the end of the road for this franchise as far as movie releases
If this one does poorly, just give it another 10 years.
I will go on record as saying I think the Mandarin twist was the best part about IM3. It was like for a brief moment a MCU movie aspired to be more than a tiny, disposable cog in the massive corporate machine that is the Marvel/Disney whimsy factory.
And then the movie ended with a half hour long cgi supersoldier vs robot free for all and whatever was left of the movie's budding soul died.
They're not trying to turn Upgrade into the new face of the Predator franchise, that much is clear. If they were, we would be seeing a lot more of it. It's completely different from what they've done with the Super Predators and what they attempted to do with the Spinosaurus in JP3. We've seen 3 shots of Upgrade. Literally. In all of the marketing material, 3 shots is all we've got. That's not them trying to make him the "new face" of the franchise. Wait for the film, wait to see how it turns out. I'm certain it's not gonna go 100% the way y'all think.
You're fooling yourself. The Upgrade literally tears the classic Predator apart with his bare hands. Try putting 2 and 2 together and see if it comes out at 4 without having Fox hold your hands through all the steps.
Anyone care to take a guess on the rotten tomato reading for this? I think they'll implement a shit emoji
Sometimes coming in here is just too much :laugh:
One group can think something is awesome and wonderful and another group thinks its the worst thing to ever happen to western civilization.
Gotta love the internet.
I can tell you one thing. No matter what movie hits the screens, no matter what the story, the director, the anything. People will cry about it.
At least everyone seems to be civil about. Which is nice, that we can have two very drastically different viewpoints, but still get along.
Quote from: UndeadJoe on Jul 09, 2018, 08:18:31 PM
It's going to be hard to invested in Captured at all when we know for a fact he's nothing but a punching bag for Upgrade, a concept that was dumb in 2010 and remains dumb today.
Does anyone with an IQ above room temperature really expect that stupid Upgrade thing to become the new face of the Predator franchise? Remember in Jp3 when they brought in the Spinosaurus to brutally kill the Rex because some genius involved in that movie thought the Spinodaurus was going to be the new face of the franchise? And then people hated that movie and the JP died for over a decade so they brought the Rex back to help fight off the Upgradeasaurus? This is like that if Universal had decided to double down on its own stupidity and have the genetic mutant dinosaur kill the Rex and the Raptors.
This this this! If they really cared for this character, it would be the Fugitive Predator that does the killing blow.
Instead....
Ya know in all honesty it just might keep me from seeing the movie in theaters.
Truth!
Not gonna take any specific guess at a RT score, but I think it's gonna be fresh. Predators is fresh, there's no reason why this shouldn't be, especially considering it's a Shane Black film. But I'll be, a lot of times RT is just straight up horseshit, so anything could happen.
Predator hasn't been fresh since Danny Glover.
Quote from: Dusk on Jul 09, 2018, 10:18:26 PM
At least everyone seems to be civil about. Which is nice, that we can have two very drastically different viewpoints, but still get along.
Quote from: UndeadJoe on Jul 09, 2018, 08:18:31 PM
Does anyone with an IQ above room temperature really expect that stupid Upgrade thing to become the new face of the Predator franchise?
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Quote from: Dusk on Jul 09, 2018, 10:18:26 PM
At least everyone seems to be civil about. Which is nice, that we can have two very drastically different viewpoints, but still get along.
Quote from: UndeadJoe on Jul 09, 2018, 08:18:31 PM
Does anyone with an IQ above room temperature really expect that stupid Upgrade thing to become the new face of the Predator franchise?
lmao
Quote from: 426Buddy on Jul 09, 2018, 10:15:03 PM
I can tell you one thing. No matter what movie hits the screens, no matter what the story, the director, the anything. People will cry about it.
Different opinions and tastes, sir. Just look at the Resurrection thread.
Quote from: Danversity on Jul 09, 2018, 10:00:58 PM
They're not trying to turn Upgrade into the new face of the Predator franchise, that much is clear. If they were, we would be seeing a lot more of it. It's completely different from what they've done with the Super Predators and what they attempted to do with the Spinosaurus in JP3. We've seen 3 shots of Upgrade. Literally. In all of the marketing material, 3 shots is all we've got. That's not them trying to make him the "new face" of the franchise. Wait for the film, wait to see how it turns out. I'm certain it's not gonna go 100% the way y'all think.
No, they're not trying to make it the new "face" but it is intended to be, as they said "cooler" "bigger and badder" which is exactly why the Spino was plugged into JP3. It's "bigger and badder! Oh you thought the T-Rex was awesome? Well here's something even bigger and more awesome. Buy the toys!"
"This summer the predator is up against a Ten-Year-Old Boy"
And this, Ladies and Gentlemen, is what it's come to.
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Quote from: 426Buddy on Jul 09, 2018, 10:15:03 PM
I can tell you one thing. No matter what movie hits the screens, no matter what the story, the director, the anything. People will cry about it.
Different opinions and tastes, sir. Just look at the Resurrection thread.
Quote from: Danversity on Jul 09, 2018, 10:00:58 PM
They're not trying to turn Upgrade into the new face of the Predator franchise, that much is clear. If they were, we would be seeing a lot more of it. It's completely different from what they've done with the Super Predators and what they attempted to do with the Spinosaurus in JP3. We've seen 3 shots of Upgrade. Literally. In all of the marketing material, 3 shots is all we've got. That's not them trying to make him the "new face" of the franchise. Wait for the film, wait to see how it turns out. I'm certain it's not gonna go 100% the way y'all think.
No, they're not trying to make it the new "face" but it is intended to be, as they said "cooler" "bigger and badder" which is exactly why the Spino was plugged into JP3. It's "bigger and badder! Oh you thought the T-Rex was awesome? Well here's something even bigger and more awesome. Buy the toys!"
Right. And back only there only was one Alien movie and that one known xenomorph, wasn't the Alien Queen the (a lot) bigger, badder, cooler monster as well?
There's nothing wrong with the "bigger" concept. Bigger doesn't mean better, sure, but neither does smaller. Bigger doesn't inherently mean "stupid and lazy" either. These are all concepts that reflect no level of quality whatsoever, quality comes from execution. And we just can't tell that before seeing the actual final movie. One thing we know is that the Upgrade is one Predator, he's this one character who got too jacked on hybridization and ended up like that. Nobody needs to worry about the Upgrade taking over this franchise, from now on being only 10 feet tall hybrid Predators, nah. That's not what's going on.
And as much as I dislike JP3 and the idea of replacing the T-Rex with the Spino as much as anyone else, JP3 was not bad because of that. It was bad because it was a poorly written and executed movie, with a lot of actually stupid ideas ~such as the 3D-printed flute that talks raptor~
The queen was a progression, a drawing of the curtains to show more of the alien society. The Alien itself was left more or less as it was. A ruthless efficient killing machine with at the very least rudimentary intelligence. The queen did not seek to override the alien or become the main show of the series. Just something more to the series.
Quote from: Danversity on Jul 09, 2018, 11:53:54 PM
And as much as I dislike JP3 and the idea of replacing the T-Rex with the Spino as much as anyone else, JP3 was not bad because of that. It was bad because it was a poorly written and executed movie, with a lot of actually stupid ideas ~such as the 3D-printed flute that talks raptor~
No argument there. I think it's just the most overt symbol in the movie of how off the mark the film was as a whole and that it wasn't even contemplating it's audience.
But the Alien Queen wasn't doing much of anything, until the very end of the Movie. It's not like she was out there, going after the Marines and making the regular Xenomorph obsolete. She was the Queen of a hive, and her job for the majority of the Movie was to lay eggs.
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Here we get the main Predator put front of center in all the promotional material, only for it to get outright murdered halfway through the Movie, and then it's about trying to survive the big new threat for the latter half of the Movie.
Quote from: OpenMaw on Jul 10, 2018, 12:03:08 AM
The queen was a progression, a drawing of the curtains to show more of the alien society. The Alien itself was left more or less as it was. A ruthless efficient killing machine with at the very least rudimentary intelligence. The queen did not seek to over ride the alien or become the main show of the series. Just something more to the series.
Quote from: Danversity on Jul 09, 2018, 11:53:54 PM
And as much as I dislike JP3 and the idea of replacing the T-Rex with the Spino as much as anyone else, JP3 was not bad because of that. It was bad because it was a poorly written and executed movie, with a lot of actually stupid ideas ~such as the 3D-printed flute that talks raptor~
No argument there. I think it's just the most overt symbol in the movie of how off the mark the film was as a whole and that it wasn't even contemplating it's audience.
But that's pretty much how I see the Upgrade. He's something more to the Predator mythos, a showcase of a different kind of Predator, an example of these Predators who dig hybridization (which Shane has already commented is something not the entire race has been doing) gone wrong. And he's gonna be on this movie and that's alright. Maybe, probably, a Predator like that is not gonna be on the next one. Maybe in a couple of others, in lesser roles. Maybe never again, who knows, but the point is the Upgrade is not something that's being brought to be made recurrently in the spotlight, contrary to what they wanted to do with the Super Predators, no. And if
Spoiler
he kills the Fugitive Predator in this movie
, than that's also not an inherently bad thing, it also depends on execution. I'm Team Fugitive all the way, but I'm letting go of my bias here. If the Upgrade is the major badass he's supposed to be, then I'm perfectly good with it even if he's not my favorite kind of Predator.
For me, the way to do it would be... The Terminator 2 of Predator movies.
Nobody takes issue with the T-1000. Why? Because it's built into a natural progression of the story and although it is technologically superior to the T-800, the T-800 isn't made out to be a chump for the new guy. It's still the titular character.
Not that I would want to have a human Predator team up, again, per se, but the somewhat "understood" agreement in Predators was fine. We're not really friends, we're just in a momentary understanding long enough to get out of the deep doodoo we're in.
It's not that he'll just
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kill captured
it's that he will
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straight up murder his ass
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That would be ideal for me too. But I'm waiting to see what happens. Shane is too experienced and too good a screenwriter not to know what would be dissatisfactory, that much I'm sure of, so I really wanna see how the film will play out after all.
Huggs gets it!! ;D let a liberal make a violent movie and it turns into bullshit. Guess Shane is intentionally killing a franchise he was the first on screen victim of. Hate to bring politricks into this but come on a 10 year old with autism is the best humanity has against space technology? Pathetic agenda writing
Quote from: OpenMaw on Jul 10, 2018, 12:24:53 AM
For me, the way to do it would be... The Terminator 2 of Predator movies.
Nobody takes issue with the T-1000. Why? Because it's built into a natural progression of the story and although it is technologically superior to the T-800, the T-800 isn't made out to be a chump for the new guy. It's still the titular character.
Not that I would want to have a human Predator team up, again, per se, but the somewhat "understood" agreement in Predators was fine. We're not really friends, we're just in a momentary understanding long enough to get out of the deep doodoo we're in.
It's not that he'll just Spoiler
kill captured
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straight up murder his ass
It be like that sometimes 🤷♂️
Quote from: YTL_Hunter_H2 on Jul 10, 2018, 02:04:31 AM
Huggs gets it!! ;D let a liberal make a violent movie and it turns into bullshit. Guess Shane is intentionally killing a franchise he was the first on screen victim of. Hate to bring politricks into this but come on a 10 year old with autism is the best humanity has against space technology? Pathetic agenda writing
I didn't even know Shane was a liberal. Far out. My remark about politics in film on another thread was merely to highlight it as one of the various reasons certain members of the modern audience are becoming frustrated with franchise films, such as star wars. I'd assume that the Alien prequels are hitting certain nerves that deal with creationism. It's not necessarily a one side/this side thing. Merely that most discussions I have with people about modern cinema does not fail to include the social and political messages that apparently seem prevalent in the films of today.
I personally tend to avoid politics at all costs and I do wish the cinema would become a legitimate place to escape it. Would I say that's the problem with Shane's movie here? No. That would depend on my own personal politics (which I almost never discuss) and I would also need to see the film in its entirety first.
If anything is indeed going to derail this film, it's likely to be the giant predator, and the really, really cringe worthy humor. The kid is just icing on that particular cake.
Though I will say, that the idea of a child being considered the ultimate prey is a terrible idea. Regardless of being a roided out hybrid or not, unarmed females and children have historically been a no-no for predators in this franchise. I can only hope that whatever poor choices have been made, and for whatever reasons they were made, the overall film is strong enough to survive them.
Quote from: huntin8-t0n on Jul 09, 2018, 03:52:14 PM
the overall design looks nice. It gets better better minute.
but the lower part with the mandibles. Oh my..
Yeah put those things away.
Thanks for posting the articles, Gazz. I really liked Black's explanation of the Loonie characters in comparison the Dutch and his elite team.
Quote from: Huggs on Jul 10, 2018, 02:56:24 AM
Quote from: YTL_Hunter_H2 on Jul 10, 2018, 02:04:31 AM
Huggs gets it!! ;D let a liberal make a violent movie and it turns into bullshit. Guess Shane is intentionally killing a franchise he was the first on screen victim of. Hate to bring politricks into this but come on a 10 year old with autism is the best humanity has against space technology? Pathetic agenda writing
I didn't even know Shane was a liberal. Far out. My remark about politics in film on another thread was merely to highlight it as one of the various reasons certain members of the modern audience are becoming frustrated with franchise films, such as star wars. I'd assume that the Alien prequels are hitting certain nerves that deal with creationism. It's not necessarily a one side/this side thing. Merely that most discussions I have with people about modern cinema does not fail to include the social and political messages that apparently seem prevalent in the films of today.
I personally tend to avoid politics at all costs and I do wish the cinema would become a legitimate place to escape it. Would I say that's the problem with Shane's movie here? No. That would depend on my own personal politics (which I almost never discuss) and I would also need to see the film in its entirety first.
If anything is indeed going to derail this film, it's likely to be the giant predator, and the really, really cringe worthy humor. The kid is just icing on that particular cake.
Though I will say, that the idea of a child being considered the ultimate prey is a terrible idea. Regardless of being a roided out hybrid or not, unarmed females and children have historically been a no-no for predators in this franchise. I can only hope that whatever poor choices have been made, and for whatever reasons they were made, the overall film is strong enough to survive them.
Really the only reasonable explanation for a 10 year old being the ultimate prey is if he holds an aspect of Predator civilization in his hands and must be dealt with. Any other reason fails. I'm with you. Hoping the film is strong enough to withstand some of the obvious cheese coming with it.
Quote from: PredBabe on Jul 10, 2018, 03:09:40 AM
Yeah put those things away.
Is that what you
really want?
Quote from: newagescamartist on Jul 10, 2018, 03:46:45 AM
Really the only reasonable explanation for a 10 year old being the ultimate prey is if he holds an aspect of Predator civilization in his hands and must be dealt with. Any other reason fails. I'm with you. Hoping the film is strong enough to withstand some of the obvious cheese coming with it.
The Predator may teach us the need to weaponize autism.
Quote from: OpenMaw on Jul 10, 2018, 04:01:26 AM
The Predator may teach us the need to weaponize autism.
I thought "the accountant" did that?
Quote from: OpenMaw on Jul 10, 2018, 04:01:26 AM
Quote from: PredBabe on Jul 10, 2018, 03:09:40 AM
Yeah put those things away.
Is that what you really want?
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=9foyAkg8W7E
Quote from: Huggs on Jul 09, 2018, 11:48:00 PM
"This summer the predator is up against a Ten-Year-Old Boy"
And this, Ladies and Gentlemen, is what it's come to.
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Man all this talk about this and that, you guys do remember that this forum does have a poll option. Somebody start a new thread with the question do you think The Predator will be awesome or do you think The Predator will suck. Maybe put a middle ground option in there. I don't know and I don't care how it is worded but I'm curious to see how the fans on this site will actually poll up.
I'ma voting for awesome. Got faith in what I've seen so far.
Damn love the new look!
People need to remember that the Fugitive isn't Classic too. This isn't Predators trying to replicate the original design. Fugitive is his/her own guy/gal, with his/her own story.
Quote from: Huggs on Jul 10, 2018, 04:09:38 AM
Quote from: OpenMaw on Jul 10, 2018, 04:01:26 AM
The Predator may teach us the need to weaponize autism.
I thought "the accountant" did that?
As someone who works with people with autism I more and more sympathize with the father in that film...
Well, that's your last straw Petr. I wont be tolerating those kind of personal insults.
How could this kill the franchise, both Alien and Predator are invincible after AVPR as far as I'm concerned.
I think this definitely looks like one of the better efforts. Anyway I'm going to slink away now, it's getting a bit spoilery!
Haha, indeed Highland.
Quote from: Corporal Hicks on Jul 10, 2018, 10:35:19 AM
People need to remember that the Fugitive isn't Classic too. This isn't Predators trying to replicate the original design. Fugitive is his/her own guy/gal, with his/her own story.
He isn't the classic in the sense that he isn't sporting Jungle Hunter armor, sure, but he's visually the "classic" Predator design.
Quote from: OpenMaw on Jul 10, 2018, 04:35:00 PM
Quote from: Corporal Hicks on Jul 10, 2018, 10:35:19 AM
People need to remember that the Fugitive isn't Classic too. This isn't Predators trying to replicate the original design. Fugitive is his/her own guy/gal, with his/her own story.
He isn't the classic in the sense that he isn't sporting Jungle Hunter armor, sure, but he's visually the "classic" Predator design.
He's not upgrade nor super predator. In that regard he is Classic Predator like JH and CH.
Quote from: Highland on Jul 10, 2018, 01:58:54 PM
How could this kill the franchise, both Alien and Predator are invincible after AVPR as far as I'm concerned.
Lol. You have a point there :D
Couldn't help but facepalm at Olivia Munn calling it a "microaggression" that somebody wonders why a *biologist* knows how to use a gun.
Aside from being a trite "feminist" buzzword, it's a completely false accusation typical of SJW logic.
Every other character in the movie sans the kid has a military background and training, minus Casey, and it's immediately apparent the only reason they're doing this is they falsely associate "strong female character" with an ability to fight, even when it makes no damned sense given the character's background.
She might realize you *can* have a strong character without any combat skill, were she actually capable of thinking before spouting her poorly understood agenda.
Cry, your insecurity is showing each time you mention feminism an SJW into play if she kind of brings up a valid point.
Quote from: skull-splitter on Jul 10, 2018, 07:52:37 PM
Cry, your insecurity is showing each time you mention feminism an SJW into play if she kind of brings up a valid point.
This.
Quote from: DarthWall275 on Jul 10, 2018, 06:36:20 PM
Couldn't help but facepalm at Olivia Munn calling it a "microaggression" that somebody wonders why a *biologist* knows how to use a gun.
Aside from being a trite "feminist" buzzword, it's a completely false accusation typical of SJW logic.
Every other character in the movie sans the kid has a military background and training, minus Casey, and it's immediately apparent the only reason they're doing this is they falsely associate "strong female character" with an ability to fight, even when it makes no damned sense given the character's background.
Oh my lord. Well, this movie is set in America. And we already saw Tennessee mentioned in the trailer. The types of people that own guns and are proficient in their use is infinite. I personally have known,
UPS drivers, USPS personnel, cashiers, fast food workers, college professors, doctors, preachers, city employees, politicians, soccer moms, Musicians, Lawyers, Factory workers, Misc. Hospital staff (including management and especially nursing), small business owners, cops, firemen, veterans, bikers, florists, coke and pepsi employees, janitors. High School graduates. College graduates. and yes, even highly intelligent and accomplished people within the sciences.
To deem it unlikely that a modern female american biologist shouldn't know her way around a firearm is not in keeping with modern society. I don't remember any stink being raised when the Bourne Legacy had a female scientist who owned an 8 shot 357 magnum revolver. Scandium alloy or not, it was still a formidable weapon, especially (you'd think) for a female. But I know a lot of American females that would have no problem shooting such a firearms. And, quite frankly, I think it's sexy as hell. There's nothing wrong with a capable woman, regardless of her occupation.
Idk about the whole "microaggression" comment, but coming from the South, I also don't see the issue with a woman knowing how to use a firearm with a science/humanities/art/etc. background :-\
I believe the point of this post was the use of the word "microagression", which can be excessive if it's about someone that stated his opinion politely... If it was stated in a rude way, well that would just be rude and stupid yes... No need to use fancy words that are trendy though, that's all ;)
Quote from: Wysps on Jul 10, 2018, 08:27:57 PM
Idk about the whole "microaggression" comment, but coming from the South, I also don't see the issue with a woman knowing how to use a firearm with a science/humanities/art/etc. background :-\
Southern boys aren't intimidated by strong women. We prefer em'. ;)
An attractive female biologist that can handle herself and run a gun. Get sum!
At this point "microagression" is seeming to translate into
"find something small and insignificant and be aggressive about it, by saying it's an issue, even tho it's not"
Seriously does anyone have an "issue" with a strong female character? Fanbases across movie genre's all over the world have no qualms.
Maybe Olivia needs to stop using the industry standard, rhetoric and culture that she's a part of and using it as a blanket to speak for movie fanbases.
She's working for the "culture" she despises. Go figure.
Quote from: Original Predator on Jul 10, 2018, 08:36:54 PM
At this point "microaggression" is seeming to translate into
"find something small and insignificant and be aggressive about it, by saying it's an issue, even tho it's not"
Like getting wound up over someone using the term "microaggression" huh?
Quote from: BigDaddyJohn on Jul 10, 2018, 08:29:08 PM
I believe the point of this post was the use of the word "microagression", which can be excessive if it's about someone that stated his opinion politely... If it was stated in a rude way, well that would just be rude and stupid yes... No need to use fancy words that are trendy though, that's all ;)
Yeah, it's kind of a strong word for some - I mean, I can see how someone would question the idea of a character doing lab work or university work with all this combat knowledge. It's reasonable to question that, imo. But regardless, it's still fine for a women to know how to four wheel, hunt, and shoot. At least that's been my experience from this particular area lol :laugh:
Quote from: Original Predator on Jul 10, 2018, 08:36:54 PM
Seriously does anyone have an "issue" with a strong female character? Fanbases across movie genre's all over the world have no qualms.
Maybe Olivia needs to stop using the industry standard, rhetoric and culture that she's a part of and using it as a blanket to speak for movie fanbases.
She's working for the "culture" she despises. Go figure.
No offense to Munn, but I kind of feel this post. Though I remember from one of her interviews that her issue was with the two sides that female actors are normally lumped into: combatant-types or mother-types. Very little in between. This I can understand (even though in reality that is her role in this movie.)
Quote from: Wysps on Jul 10, 2018, 08:27:57 PM
Idk about the whole "microaggression" comment, but coming from the South, I also don't see the issue with a woman knowing how to use a firearm with a science/humanities/art/etc. background :-\
Hey I'm from the south with a psych degree and a gun permit! :D :P
Of course I have no qualms with a [female] character having experience in firearms regardless of their profession. People are full of surprises.
Quote from: Original Predator on Jul 10, 2018, 08:36:54 PM
Seriously does anyone have an "issue" with a strong female character? Fanbases across movie genre's all over the world have no qualms.
Maybe Olivia needs to stop using the industry standard, rhetoric and culture that she's a part of and using it as a blanket to speak for movie fanbases.
She's working for the "culture" she despises. Go figure.
But I do have to agree with this post as well. The entertainment industry is one of the most prominent sexist and racist industries out there which probably does explain her use of the term "microaggression". If anything has irked me that she has vocalized, it's her views on cops being racist, though that's neither here nor there...
The bullshit word "Microaggression" can be shined up nicely and shoved up the keister of anyone who uses it in a
serious context. I hope I "macro'd" my aggression on this subject well enough.
If she wanted to be flippant and demonstrate her point she could have just as easily said, ever hear of Sarah Connor, or Ellen Ripley?
Quote from: Wysps on Jul 10, 2018, 09:21:53 PM
Yeah, it's kind of a strong word for some
No. It's just a stupid new age hyper-politcally-correct empty, hollow, bullshit phrase invented to deflect argument. It's a word with dynamically shifting goal posts attached to it.
Can't even say i'm entirely surprised to hear Munn would use it. This idiocy is rampant in Hollywood.
Again, I stress, lot's of people in the United States don't know how to use guns. It's not unreasonable to ask why her character has that knowledge.
Hell, even the aforementioned RIPLEY and SARAH CONNOR had to
learn.
I honestly had to look it up, because I never heard of it before. :laugh:
The first pic is cool though i dont like the AVP style scenery, the second one looks too sterile :/
Quote from: Dusk on Jul 10, 2018, 10:21:15 PM
I honestly had to look it up, because I never heard of it before. :laugh:
I still don't know what it is. But if it's anything like "short guy syndrome" I don't see how it applies. ;)
Quote from: Huggs on Jul 10, 2018, 11:51:32 PM
I still don't know what it is. But if it's anything like "short guy syndrome" I don't see how it applies. ;)
It's in line with "check your privilege" and "male shit-lord" and "oppressive patriarchy."
Quote from: OpenMaw on Jul 10, 2018, 11:53:30 PM
Quote from: Huggs on Jul 10, 2018, 11:51:32 PM
I still don't know what it is. But if it's anything like "short guy syndrome" I don't see how it applies. ;)
It's in line with "check your privilege" and "male shit-lord" and "oppressive patriarchy."
People nowadays sure come up with some strange concepts.
Quote from: The Old One on Jul 10, 2018, 08:57:28 PM
Quote from: Original Predator on Jul 10, 2018, 08:36:54 PM
At this point "microaggression" is seeming to translate into
"find something small and insignificant and be aggressive about it, by saying it's an issue, even tho it's not"
Like getting wound up over someone using the term "microaggression" huh?
Making an observation of irony (Munn working for the industry she dispises and blanketing fans with a made up term) is far from "wound up".
Opining on a forum.
Good try tho.
I didn't know she was blanketing anyone, my apologies. Thought you all were commenting on an observation she made on the captive Predator.
I think y'all reading way too much into this, or simply missing the point.
Yeah, the likes of Ripley and Sarah Connor had to learn, yeah a lot of people in the U.S don't know how to use guns, that's all good and true, but it's not really Olivia's point. We're talking about movies, how this stuff is handled in fiction. Olivia's point is that in a movie, when it comes to a character that doesn't particularly links back to guns on a surface level like, say, a scientist, if it's a male character nobody will bother to wonder how they know to handle a gun, they just accept that he does - now if it's a female character, storytellers and studios will often feel the need to explain how she learns to handle the weapon (that if she's not completely helpless), or make her into a Lara Croft-esque heroine who's just so absurd at it that that's it - they think that the audience may not accept that she's just a woman that happens to know how to use a gun the same way they do with male characters. And she's not wrong. Nowadays less movies do that than they used to, but it's undeniable.
Quote from: Danversity on Jul 11, 2018, 03:29:58 AM
I think y'all reading way too much into this, or simply missing the point.
Yeah, the likes of Ripley and Sarah Connor had to learn, yeah a lot of people in the U.S don't know how to use guns, that's all good and true, but it's not really Olivia's point. We're talking about movies, how this stuff is handled in fiction. Olivia's point is that in a movie, when it comes to a character that doesn't particularly links back to guns on a surface level like, say, a scientist, if it's a male character nobody will bother to wonder how they know to handle a gun, they just accept that he does - now if it's a female character, storytellers and studios will often feel the need to explain how she learns to handle the weapon (that if she's not completely helpless), or make her into a Lara Croft-esque heroine who's just so absurd at it that that's it - they think that the audience may not accept that she's just a woman that happens to know how to use a gun the same way they do with male characters. And she's not wrong. Nowadays less movies do that than they used to, but it's undeniable.
She didn't say any of that. She told a person to check their microagressions. So her intended point is lost in the shuffle ,and it's not much of a point because it's an assumption about the entire audience.
I
do happen to wonder, depending on the context, how some random asshole picks up military hardware and just magically seems to know how to work the action and safety.
Quote from: OpenMaw on Jul 11, 2018, 03:46:59 AM
I do happen to wonder, depending on the context, how some random asshole picks up military hardware and just magically seems to know how to work the action and safety.
It's those damn Call of Duty games.
Spoiler
And how dare you speak about captured that way ;D
Two pages on and we're kind of proving why people leave public pages... fandom don't mix with personal politics, folks.
Yeah, let's keep the politics to the politics sub-board please.
Quote from: OpenMaw on Jul 10, 2018, 11:53:30 PM
Quote from: Huggs on Jul 10, 2018, 11:51:32 PM
I still don't know what it is. But if it's anything like "short guy syndrome" I don't see how it applies. ;)
It's in line with "check your privilege" and "male shit-lord" and "oppressive patriarchy."
Good lord i couldn't agree more with you !
Quote from: D88M on Jul 10, 2018, 11:19:38 PM
The first pic is cool though i dont like the AVP style scenery, the second one looks too sterile :/
Eh i guess it looks like an AVP scenery, since it doesn't take place in a jungle or a big city...
::)
Or because it doesn't look like the Aztec-inspired spaceship interior that was the single coolest thing in P2, one of the most unique ship interiors for an alien organism ever, and has never been repeated in any of the movies for no discernable reason.
Quote from: SiL on Jul 11, 2018, 11:59:14 AM
Or because it doesn't look like the Aztec-inspired spaceship interior that was the single coolest thing in P2, one of the most unique ship interiors for an alien organism ever, and has never been repeated in any of the movies for no discernable reason.
It was a really cool design indeed, but it could also be different more than 20 years after. Also different predators, different styles maybe ? From what we saw i tend to prefer P2's design but i'll wait to see the movie in motion to fully make my mind about it.
I get all that, but every design after has been boring and generic sleek sci-fi corridors. It's really uninspired after the second film showed us the potential.
True, it has been more generic after P2, that's a fact.
Quote from: SiL on Jul 11, 2018, 12:10:41 PM
I get all that, but every design after has been boring and generic sleek sci-fi corridors. It's really uninspired after the second film showed us the potential.
Compared to the really organic and hints of aztek influences, they either went full aztek for the sets or downright industrial.
You never go full retard...
Yeah it is disappointing that no other movie has followed up with the Aztec look of the ship in P2. It was one of the cooler things established for the creature lore in that movie. It was eerie and mysterious with that misty atmosphere. Of course we can say different ships for different predators/occasions but still wish they would stick with a similar concept.
Maybe the ship in P2 is like the Millennium Falcon of Predator ships. "Blow that piece of junk out of the sky!"
Do any websites sell single issues of Empire? I'm in the U.S. and haven't seen this magazine in stores or bookstores. Thanks
It's truly a shame they never used Predator 2 artistic language. It was so unique for alien race, and nope, they went pretty generic for all other Predator installments( not hating on all other designs, but they did feel less unique compare to Predator 2). Or it could be my subjective opinion. But I loved the hell out of Predator 2 design(Ship, Armor, Face, Colors). But I really like this armor with this lighting and camera position(Actually it looks pretty interesting too). Kind of reminds me of Star Gate.
Quote from: Shaeffer11 on Jul 11, 2018, 03:16:24 PM
Do any websites sell single issues of Empire? I'm in the U.S. and haven't seen this magazine in stores or bookstores. Thanks
I believe it comes out this Thursday (tomorrow).
^^ Correct. Wont be on shelves until tomorrow.
Quote from: SiL on Jul 11, 2018, 11:59:14 AM
Or because it doesn't look like the Aztec-inspired spaceship interior that was the single coolest thing in P2, one of the most unique ship interiors for an alien organism ever, and has never been repeated in any of the movies for no discernable reason.
Oh I miss that ship interior. And only the old avp games made the predator ships/bases with that design too. Everything since AVP(2004) made their ships with generic corridors. What a shame.
One interesting thing to know about AVP Requiem on PSP is that they tried to fuse the two design styles into one ship. They had the central chamber from Predator 2, but also the long tunnel catwalk from AVP. It showed just how terribly they clashed and didn't even feel like the same species.
The ship in Predator 2 was as if someone had taken an Alien cave and strapped space engines to it. So spooky and cool.
That's why it's so evocative of the Predator itself, a clash of tribal with hi-tech adornments.
photos look nice, detail good. Upgrade concept is a lot smarter than many perceive. Art imitates life...
Upgrade concept is just typical Hollywood BS. "That thing you liked in the first movie but bigger, explodier and more computer generated." Like the Mega Death Star in Force Awakens. Sorry Upgrade fans, but that's just how it is...
Quote from: TruthTeller on Jul 12, 2018, 05:19:45 AM
Upgrade concept is just typical Hollywood BS. "That thing you liked in the first movie but bigger, explodier and more computer generated." Like the Mega Death Star in Force Awakens. Sorry Upgrade fans, but that's just how it is...
To be fair, the second death star earlier made that mistake too, although we had no sense of scale really...
I must admit i'm looking forward to the bright pink helicopter with the pin-up girl on it.
Might be the best character in the movie. :)
Oh God I had forgotten about that...
Quote from: DarthWall275 on Jul 12, 2018, 05:35:02 PM
I must admit i'm looking forward to the bright pink helicopter with the pin-up girl on it.
Say What?
Quote from: Huggs on Jul 13, 2018, 01:04:38 AM
Say What?
Spoiler
The Loonies commendeer a pink helicopter at one point in the script.
Somehow... I doubt that made the cut.
I would've sworn I read somewhere it got replaced by a more "subdued" helicopter... medical helicopter? Search and rescue? I'm blanking and can't find whatever I read.
Quote from: yautjapet on Jul 13, 2018, 04:12:26 AM
I would've sworn I read somewhere it got replaced by a more "subdued" helicopter... medical helicopter? Search and rescue? I'm blanking and can't find whatever I read.
Very disappointed if that's the case. IMHO that scene/dialogue & respective vehicle are integral to the Loony mythos.
The multiple air & land vehicles are very specific, if you hadn't noticed...
Upgrade with closed mouth
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=WQwOMLYOVE4&t=0s
If only those mandibles could close properly... :)
Full article scans here - https://www.avpgalaxy.net/gallery/albums/movies/thepredator/magazines/201808-empire.pdf
Better quality versions of the new stills.
I think you need another link ;)
Ooops. There we go.
Awesome. And reading about the classic never gets ols.
This article makes the entire cast and crew sound like a pack of catty high school girls.
Mean Girls vs Predator!
Mean Girls is a classic how dare you 😁
I've finally snipped all the new stills -
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The so called Upgrade is simply awful. If this is Shane Black's reinvention of the character he has failed, simply failed.
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"Predator and Shane review the shot. Predator wants another go so he can throw the security guard "properly.""
Quote from: OpenMaw on Jul 16, 2018, 12:10:29 AM
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"Predator and Shane review the shot. Predator wants another go so he can throw the security guard "properly.""
Or
"Shane observes the urine test". ;)
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"Predator and Shane review the shot. Predator wants another go so he can throw the security guard "properly.""
The Predator looks much bigger there than in the picture where Boyd's character is being lifted up. I know they're probably the same Predator (no indication otherwise), but it sort of looks like two different ones - even the hue of the skin looks slightly different.
Quote from: Wysps on Jul 16, 2018, 12:41:18 AM
Quote from: OpenMaw on Jul 16, 2018, 12:10:29 AM
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"Predator and Shane review the shot. Predator wants another go so he can throw the security guard "properly.""
The Predator looks much bigger there than in the picture where Boyd's character is being lifted up. I know they're probably the same Predator (no indication otherwise), but it sort of looks like two different ones - even the hue of the skin looks slightly different.
Oh the marvel of using colored lights...
Honestly i'm not seeing a huge height different between that shot and the Holbrook shot. Predator is still hefting him up a couple feet off the ground.
Quote from: OpenMaw on Jul 16, 2018, 03:34:04 PM
Honestly i'm not seeing a huge height different between that shot and the Holbrook shot. Predator is still hefting him up a couple feet off the ground.
Brian A Prince is 6' 10" plus the costume, so he's likely over 7ft as the Predator
Aw man - poor Dr. Keyes with that stomach injury!
Thanks for the stills Corporal. This movie looks gorgeous.
Man the upgrade design has to be probably one of the most unimaginative and boring one in the predator movie history. Simply awful. And the fact it looks like it is CGI adds to the dumpster fire.
Quote from: csutkakoma on Jul 16, 2018, 11:30:12 PM
Man the upgrade design has to be probably one of the most unimaginative and boring one in the predator movie history. Simply awful. And the fact it looks like it is CGI adds to the dumpster fire.
Im totally agree, I think is dumb, lets make it bigger, yeahh, remove the armour, hulk doesnt need armoir, remove the helmet, and the canon..
But sir black, the predator most iconic thing its the armour helmet, weapons and the mouth,,
Thats true, we have to change the mouth as well..
Stil dont believe how boring the upgrade design is, the wolf looks more pred menacing than this turd, a tiny agile heavy armour pred is the way..
Quote from: Nathsp on Jul 16, 2018, 11:38:41 PM
a tiny agile heavy armour pred is the way..
That is a contradictory statement that makes no sense.
The first thing that came to mind were the awful line backer Predators we got in AVP.
No thanks.
Quote from: Nathsp on Jul 16, 2018, 11:38:41 PM
Quote from: csutkakoma on Jul 16, 2018, 11:30:12 PM
Man the upgrade design has to be probably one of the most unimaginative and boring one in the predator movie history. Simply awful. And the fact it looks like it is CGI adds to the dumpster fire.
Im totally agree, I think is dumb, lets make it bigger, yeahh, remove the armour, hulk doesnt need armoir, remove the helmet, and the canon..
But sir black, the predator most iconic thing its the armour helmet, weapons and the mouth,,
Thats true, we have to change the mouth as well..
Stil dont believe how boring the upgrade design is, the wolf looks more pred menacing than this turd, a tiny agile heavy armour pred is the way..
😂😂 "it's not your typical beloved Predator" I think that's what the movie might be trying to convey. Just maybe
They're giving us 2 interpretations of the "Yautja" (3 originally), so let's just be content and enjoy the film in the theatre
I hate that idiotic argument, Von. "Its new so you have to enjoy it, eat the slop served to you you dumb pigs!' Whatever. ::)
Upgrade looks almost like Rancor in those pictures
Quote from: von on Jul 17, 2018, 02:39:22 AM
so let's just be content and enjoy the film in the theatre
I'll be content with quality,
if we get quality. But I do not, nor will I ever subscribe to the idea that people should just "turn off their brains and enjoy the movie."
Quote from: Qanon on Jul 17, 2018, 03:20:27 AM
I hate that idiotic argument, Von. "Its new so you have to enjoy it, eat the slop served to you you dumb pigs!' Whatever. ::)
Yep.
Pigs in human clothing the lotta ya.
Quote from: The Old One on Jul 17, 2018, 05:35:43 AM
Pigs in human clothing the lotta ya.
...I like bacon?
Quote from: Qanon on Jul 17, 2018, 03:20:27 AM
I hate that idiotic argument, Von. "Its new so you have to enjoy it, eat the slop served to you you dumb pigs!' Whatever. ::)
got a point there. well, us Predator fans haven't been fed in 8 years!! we were bound to get something unfamiliar to our taste buds. it's a hard pill to swallow but this hybrid predator might grow on the new generation of fans i guess
don't forget they;re giving us something "classic" (fugitive pred, ensemble crew, jungle/urban/suburban settings, taskforce, easter eggs etc) but mixing in some other weird ingredients (new pred armor, upgrade/hybrid pred, expanded mythos, new type of crew, lab facility setting, etc ). we don't know how it might ultimately taste like once all cooked and prepared!
QuoteBigger, meaner and nasty as hell. Ten feet tall and midnight black, bristling with spines, skin thickened with chitinous organic armour – the product of harvesting DNA From the deadliest creatures on every world it's hunted. The ultimate expression of Predator dominance.
Alright, you got me, i think this is cool as hell. This thing looks like a monster because it hunted and killed things probably unimaginable to our brains, not satisfied with only taking a trophy but making the next step in evolution.
I had my gripes with the idea, but having seen the design and knowing it's backstory, i'm very pleased and actually happy that we get a new critter like this.
Damn could you imagine if they just went with featuring the upgrade for this movie and none of the more classic designs?
I don't think it's so much as "turn off your brains", but rather to "open your mind". So many people are quick to write certain things off but forget that, if done right, it can be something you end up liking. We've kind of known what we were getting from the leaked script and when we see glimpses of said things from script (which a lot of it doesn't look bad) we still have fans in an uproar and writing it off before seeing it completely play out.
I don't know. Most fans have given so much praise to Predator 2 and that movie clearly has its faults and campy moments, which I even love it for but still I'm trying to make a point here that what we've seen so far from The Predator doesn't look like slop either.
Yeah so many people whine about their beloved little predator not looking like they wanted, but seem to give zero shits about the global movie quality potential... But hey, it's just cinema after all... Who cares huh...
Quote from: OpenMaw on Jul 17, 2018, 01:46:44 AM
Quote from: Nathsp on Jul 16, 2018, 11:38:41 PM
a tiny agile heavy armour pred is the way..
That is a contradictory statement that makes no sense.
The first thing that came to mind were the awful line backer Predators we got in AVP. No thanks.
You can have a predator full of equip that can be agile, the armour can be made of alien material, like in pred 2, heavy doesnt need to mean heavy weight.
But ey, if you prefer a dumb gorila with no armour, great for you, for me wolf pred is more menacing than this
Quote from: PredBabe on Jul 17, 2018, 10:49:42 AM
Damn could you imagine if they just went with featuring the upgrade for this movie and none of the more classic designs?
I don't think it's so much as "turn off your brains", but rather to "open your mind". So many people are quick to write certain things off but forget that, if done right, it can be something you end up liking. We've kind of known what we were getting from the leaked script and when we see glimpses of said things from script (which a lot of it doesn't look bad) we still have fans in an uproar and writing it off before seeing it completely play out.
I don't know. Most fans have given so much praise to Predator 2 and that movie clearly has its faults and campy moments, which I even love it for but still I'm trying to make a point here that what we've seen so far from The Predator doesn't look like slop either.
Spoiler
That's the worst part about giving in to reading spoilers/leaked content :-\ It's so hard to rip yourself from the misconceptions that you create about the film - you spend months reinforcing what you think is totally wrong with the film. And then by the time you watch it, you've done so much "reinforcing", that you wonder whether the movie is actually good or if you've just brainwashed yourself into believing it's crap! Oy vey.
Quote from: BigDaddyJohn on Jul 17, 2018, 12:20:50 PM
Yeah so many people whine about their beloved little predator not looking like they wanted, but seem to give zero shits about the global movie quality potential... But hey, it's just cinema after all... Who cares huh...
As long as it leads to movies that I can enjoy in the theatre, I'll take the hit ;) There is a line that I draw as far as how bad a movie can be before I start sitting them out, but this movie isn't coming anywhere close to that line, thank goodness. It might turn into a cheese-fest, plenty of people like cheese. As others have said, Predator 2 was full of campy moments and still ended up being an entertaining ride.
Quote from: Wysps on Jul 17, 2018, 02:20:50 PM
Quote from: PredBabe on Jul 17, 2018, 10:49:42 AM
Damn could you imagine if they just went with featuring the upgrade for this movie and none of the more classic designs?
I don't think it's so much as "turn off your brains", but rather to "open your mind". So many people are quick to write certain things off but forget that, if done right, it can be something you end up liking. We've kind of known what we were getting from the leaked script and when we see glimpses of said things from script (which a lot of it doesn't look bad) we still have fans in an uproar and writing it off before seeing it completely play out.
I don't know. Most fans have given so much praise to Predator 2 and that movie clearly has its faults and campy moments, which I even love it for but still I'm trying to make a point here that what we've seen so far from The Predator doesn't look like slop either.
Spoiler
That's the worst part about giving in to reading spoilers/leaked content :-\ It's so hard to rip yourself from the misconceptions that you create about the film - you spend months reinforcing what you think is totally wrong with the film. And then by the time you watch it, you've done so much "reinforcing", that you wonder whether the movie is actually good or if you've just brainwashed yourself into believing it's crap! Oy vey.
Quote from: BigDaddyJohn on Jul 17, 2018, 12:20:50 PM
Yeah so many people whine about their beloved little predator not looking like they wanted, but seem to give zero shits about the global movie quality potential... But hey, it's just cinema after all... Who cares huh...
As long as it leads to movies that I can enjoy in the theatre, I'll take the hit ;) There is a line that I draw as far as how bad a movie can be before I start sitting them out, but this movie isn't coming anywhere close to that line, thank goodness. It might turn into a cheese-fest, plenty of people like cheese. As others have said, Predator 2 was full of campy moments and still ended up being an entertaining ride.
I genuinely believe two things...
N°1 : that it won't be as good as the first movie (i know, understatement of the year :laugh:)
N°2 : that it
could totally be better than the second movie that i love so much.
Regarding more sequels, if this movie happen to have one, i wonder
Spoiler
if they'll kill all loonies as planned originally, or maybe let one live due to reshoots, in order to appear in a sequel and maybe become the main character in case of McKenna not returning... I was thinking of Nebraska possibly surviving, as he is the main loonie, though i don't want to know it before is see it in theaters
You goddamn sycophants are ruining ALL movies, not just Predator. When you reward studios for making crap it just inspires studios to CONTINUE to make crap.
But hey, at least you're getting a new Alien/Predator/Star Wars/Transformers movie. Who cares if it's garbage and long as it has a brand name you're familiar with on it! You'll go see it and you'll lap it all up without one critical thought about what you're consuming and all us rubes with standards and critical thinking skills are just backward babies who need to open our minds to being mindless consumers like the rest of you.
Enjoy your prole chow while you can. Maybe if this movie fails you'll learn your lesson but I doubt it.
Yeah, because the countless posts and discussions and differing opinions about the movies on this very forum is "mindlessly consuming." Sure. ::)
Quote from: Nathsp on Jul 17, 2018, 01:30:52 PM
ou can have a predator full of equip that can be agile, the armour can be made of alien material, like in pred 2, heavy doesnt need to mean heavy weight.
But ey, if you prefer a dumb gorila with no armour, great for you, for me wolf pred is more menacing than this
Oh yeah, the dude that fought the weakest weak ass aliens in the galaxy... Totally imposing there.
I'll take Jungle and City Hunter any day. I'd put good money on Greyback being like the Lion Walken talks about in Poolhall Junkies
Quote from: Qanon on Jul 17, 2018, 03:39:31 PM
You goddamn sycophants are ruining ALL movies, not just Predator. When you reward studios for making crap it just inspires studios to CONTINUE to make crap.
But hey, at least you're getting a new Alien/Predator/Star Wars/Transformers movie. Who cares if it's garbage and long as it has a brand name you're familiar with on it! You'll go see it and you'll lap it all up without one critical thought about what you're consuming and all us rubes with standards and critical thinking skills are just backward babies who need to open our minds to being mindless consumers like the rest of you.
Enjoy your prole chow while you can. Maybe if this movie fails you'll learn your lesson but I doubt it.
Because obviously you are perfectly legitimate to know what's the best thing to do for a new Predator movie, perfectly experienced and well balanced of course. Dude get the f**k out of here.
@yautjapet the only "discussions" about this movie are goon boy fanfiction writing and speculation into where it fits in the so called AvP cinematic universe. Anything critical is either ignored or dog piled by condescending jacksses. Deny it all you want, you know true.
Quote from: Qanon on Jul 17, 2018, 03:39:31 PM
You goddamn sycophants are ruining ALL movies, not just Predator. When you reward studios for making crap it just inspires studios to CONTINUE to make crap.
But hey, at least you're getting a new Alien/Predator/Star Wars/Transformers movie. Who cares if it's garbage and long as it has a brand name you're familiar with on it! You'll go see it and you'll lap it all up without one critical thought about what you're consuming and all us rubes with standards and critical thinking skills are just backward babies who need to open our minds to being mindless consumers like the rest of you.
Enjoy your prole chow while you can. Maybe if this movie fails you'll learn your lesson but I doubt it.
Yeah shoo man-baby lol
Quote from: Qanon on Jul 17, 2018, 03:39:31 PM
You goddamn sycophants are ruining ALL movies, not just Predator. When you reward studios for making crap it just inspires studios to CONTINUE to make crap.
But hey, at least you're getting a new Alien/Predator/Star Wars/Transformers movie. Who cares if it's garbage and long as it has a brand name you're familiar with on it! You'll go see it and you'll lap it all up without one critical thought about what you're consuming and all us rubes with standards and critical thinking skills are just backward babies who need to open our minds to being mindless consumers like the rest of you.
Enjoy your prole chow while you can. Maybe if this movie fails you'll learn your lesson but I doubt it.
What a productive, informative, and intellectually stimulating post.
Somebody should let Finn Haugen know there's been a breach. Hans! Where are you?
Quote from: Qanon on Jul 17, 2018, 03:39:31 PM
You goddamn sycophants are ruining ALL movies, not just Predator. When you reward studios for making crap it just inspires studios to CONTINUE to make crap.
But hey, at least you're getting a new Alien/Predator/Star Wars/Transformers movie. Who cares if it's garbage and long as it has a brand name you're familiar with on it! You'll go see it and you'll lap it all up without one critical thought about what you're consuming and all us rubes with standards and critical thinking skills are just backward babies who need to open our minds to being mindless consumers like the rest of you.
Enjoy your prole chow while you can. Maybe if this movie fails you'll learn your lesson but I doubt it.
I would agree if you didn't mention star trek and star wars and seemingly put them at a worse place than AvP and AvP-R...
Quote from: BigDaddyJohn on Jul 17, 2018, 02:36:14 PM
Quote from: Wysps on Jul 17, 2018, 02:20:50 PM
Quote from: PredBabe on Jul 17, 2018, 10:49:42 AM
Damn could you imagine if they just went with featuring the upgrade for this movie and none of the more classic designs?
I don't think it's so much as "turn off your brains", but rather to "open your mind". So many people are quick to write certain things off but forget that, if done right, it can be something you end up liking. We've kind of known what we were getting from the leaked script and when we see glimpses of said things from script (which a lot of it doesn't look bad) we still have fans in an uproar and writing it off before seeing it completely play out.
I don't know. Most fans have given so much praise to Predator 2 and that movie clearly has its faults and campy moments, which I even love it for but still I'm trying to make a point here that what we've seen so far from The Predator doesn't look like slop either.
Spoiler
That's the worst part about giving in to reading spoilers/leaked content :-\ It's so hard to rip yourself from the misconceptions that you create about the film - you spend months reinforcing what you think is totally wrong with the film. And then by the time you watch it, you've done so much "reinforcing", that you wonder whether the movie is actually good or if you've just brainwashed yourself into believing it's crap! Oy vey.
Quote from: BigDaddyJohn on Jul 17, 2018, 12:20:50 PM
Yeah so many people whine about their beloved little predator not looking like they wanted, but seem to give zero shits about the global movie quality potential... But hey, it's just cinema after all... Who cares huh...
As long as it leads to movies that I can enjoy in the theatre, I'll take the hit ;) There is a line that I draw as far as how bad a movie can be before I start sitting them out, but this movie isn't coming anywhere close to that line, thank goodness. It might turn into a cheese-fest, plenty of people like cheese. As others have said, Predator 2 was full of campy moments and still ended up being an entertaining ride.
I genuinely believe two things...
N°1 : that it won't be as good as the first movie (i know, understatement of the year :laugh:)
N°2 : that it could totally be better than the second movie that i love so much.
Regarding more sequels, if this movie happen to have one, i wonder Spoiler
if they'll kill all loonies as planned originally, or maybe let one live due to reshoots, in order to appear in a sequel and maybe become the main character in case of McKenna not returning... I was thinking of Nebraska possibly surviving, as he is the main loonie, though i don't want to know it before is see it in theaters
Haha I've been saying that too you all along
Spoiler
i think Nebraska will survive
Quote from: Ramjet311 on Jul 17, 2018, 09:19:28 PM
Quote from: BigDaddyJohn on Jul 17, 2018, 02:36:14 PM
Quote from: Wysps on Jul 17, 2018, 02:20:50 PM
Quote from: PredBabe on Jul 17, 2018, 10:49:42 AM
Damn could you imagine if they just went with featuring the upgrade for this movie and none of the more classic designs?
I don't think it's so much as "turn off your brains", but rather to "open your mind". So many people are quick to write certain things off but forget that, if done right, it can be something you end up liking. We've kind of known what we were getting from the leaked script and when we see glimpses of said things from script (which a lot of it doesn't look bad) we still have fans in an uproar and writing it off before seeing it completely play out.
I don't know. Most fans have given so much praise to Predator 2 and that movie clearly has its faults and campy moments, which I even love it for but still I'm trying to make a point here that what we've seen so far from The Predator doesn't look like slop either.
Spoiler
That's the worst part about giving in to reading spoilers/leaked content :-\ It's so hard to rip yourself from the misconceptions that you create about the film - you spend months reinforcing what you think is totally wrong with the film. And then by the time you watch it, you've done so much "reinforcing", that you wonder whether the movie is actually good or if you've just brainwashed yourself into believing it's crap! Oy vey.
Quote from: BigDaddyJohn on Jul 17, 2018, 12:20:50 PM
Yeah so many people whine about their beloved little predator not looking like they wanted, but seem to give zero shits about the global movie quality potential... But hey, it's just cinema after all... Who cares huh...
As long as it leads to movies that I can enjoy in the theatre, I'll take the hit ;) There is a line that I draw as far as how bad a movie can be before I start sitting them out, but this movie isn't coming anywhere close to that line, thank goodness. It might turn into a cheese-fest, plenty of people like cheese. As others have said, Predator 2 was full of campy moments and still ended up being an entertaining ride.
I genuinely believe two things...
N°1 : that it won't be as good as the first movie (i know, understatement of the year :laugh:)
N°2 : that it could totally be better than the second movie that i love so much.
Regarding more sequels, if this movie happen to have one, i wonder Spoiler
if they'll kill all loonies as planned originally, or maybe let one live due to reshoots, in order to appear in a sequel and maybe become the main character in case of McKenna not returning... I was thinking of Nebraska possibly surviving, as he is the main loonie, though i don't want to know it before is see it in theaters
Haha I've been saying that too you all alongSpoiler
i think Nebraska will survive
Yes indeed i remember that ! I just hope no one will spoil the test screenings changes !
Quote from: Qanon on Jul 17, 2018, 06:07:35 PM
@yautjapet the only "discussions" about this movie are goon boy fanfiction writing and speculation into where it fits in the so called AvP cinematic universe. Anything critical is either ignored or dog piled by condescending jacksses. Deny it all you want, you know true.
Point to some examples.
Quote from: Qanon on Jul 17, 2018, 06:07:35 PM
@yautjapet the only "discussions" about this movie are goon boy fanfiction writing and speculation into where it fits in the so called AvP cinematic universe. Anything critical is either ignored or dog piled by condescending jacksses. Deny it all you want, you know true.
This will never fail to amuse me. "All fans do is complain! They're never happy!" "Urgh, all fans do is circle-jerk over any crap they're fed." All discussion - positive or negative - is welcome as long as the people taking part act like adults and treat others involved with respect.
As SM would say; "Quite."
Bigger version of a still from the magazine.
(https://images.fandango.com/images/fandangoblog/shaneblackpredator.jpg)
It's from an interview too but haven't read through it yet.
https://www.fandango.com/movie-news/interview-the-predator-director-shane-black-talks-aliens-easter-eggs-and-the-future-of-the-franchise-753358
No watermark
(https://images.vfl.ru/ii/1533908146/0cc06d28/22839383.jpg)
Yeah, I updated our gallery a week or so ago with watermarkless versions of some of the recent images.
https://www.avpgalaxy.net/gallery/thumbnails.php?album=377
Quote from: Corporal Hicks on Aug 10, 2018, 01:54:39 PMI updated our gallery a week or so ago with watermarkless versions.
:o
That's cool! Thanks!