I don't want to start WW3 but how many of you think that the human race was created by an alien race or a race such as the Engineers from Prometheus? Do you think there is any truth behind it? Just interested. Don't want to start huge arguments. cheers
No.
It's just a cool story.
No.
I do not believe in alien life.
No.
I believe in alien life, I don't believe there's been contact between species.
Of course not. That's just silly.
We're actually living in a simulation created by our ancestors.
Yes.
I also believe the Earth is flat, the British royalty are Alien reptiles in human masks, and President Trump is a stable genius.
TC
No.
We're all dead. The Mayans were right and the world ended in 2012. This is just a simulation. I am a butterfly who believed he was a man.
No.
Not even in the context of the Alien series, and Extra-Terrestrials 100% exist but we've never made contact, probably because the Galaxy is realistically a lot larger than most people think.
On that note I don't believe in God either, certainly not in the way most people perceive "God" anyway, a conscious entity? Perhaps, something that set everything in motion? Yes, something that requires or appreciates worship- lmao, no, an individual doesn't matter to the universe. We exist, and we don't know why, and that's okay.
Agreed. The fact there is no reason for us to exist is actually pretty liberating, this way we are all free to choose our own meaning of life.
We are the natural product of an incredibly complex and beautiful phylogenetic tree, a child of evolution mechanisms, and biochemistry is way more elegant than any ufologist cosmogony on the origins of humanity.
Look at this protein walking, carrying its burden with regularly, held in place and motivated only by a delicate balance of reactions and associations in its components. Isn't it a million times more beautiful than any dream of us being some Frankenstein experiences by grey aliens?
Yes, an ancient alien race called "ohcan" used a triangle shaped device referred to as the "otirod" to investigate worlds across the galaxy and, if possible, to encourage the development of intelligent life. And the Earth resulted.
Ridley seems to believe in this. That's how we got Prometheus.
I think that evolution, creation by God or by aliens all are the equaly possible variants. And even more - there's is chance that all 3 variants are right. I mean, why evolution cannot be tool of God and why God cannot be space alien?
The idea that Space Jockeys created humanity, while sharing an unfortunate similarity with some conspiracy theories, was actually Spaihts' idea for his screenplay Alien: Engineers.
Spaihts thought that a story exploring the origins of the Derelict and Alien eggs would be too focused on non-human beings and completely ununderstandable cultures and environments. He felt the story needed a link with humanity.
"Those are interesting entities not fully explained, but to keep an audience interested in those things it couldn't be abstraction, it couldn't be a purely "alien story" about things we can't relate to. It was going to have to be connected to our own story. Somehow the story of those creatures was going to have to be connected to the human story, not just our history but our fate to come."
No. Personally, I'm an agnostic atheist/secular humanist for a multitude of reasons, some of them being as the result of getting a better understanding over time of biology, geology, genetics, astronomy, philosophy and mythologies. Over the years my stance has crystallized to what it is now. I could be wrong of course, but I'm an avid seeker of truth and this is my understanding of it and where I am so far.
As a kid I found the Ancient Aliens idea to be very cool, but I find it really weak nowadays. It mostly comes out of either not understanding how evolution works or by believing are ancestors were too stupid to do the things they did. And we have good counter-evince for all the basis of the Ancient Aliens hypothesis. It's not impossible, but I really doubt it happened. The simulation hypothesis is much, much stronger IMO.
I think that life somewhere else in the universe is completely possible and even probable. Intelligent life is also possible IMO but I'm not at all sure how probable it is. There are some great discussions about the Fermi paradox.
That's why I was disappointed that Scott went with Ancient Aliens, it was unnecessary to have the Jockeys create us. I love when the film franchise is as realistic as possible. The FTL, artificial gravity and especially the super fast growing alien without eating is more than enough fiction in this Sci Fi, so I'm glad whenever other hard sci fi elements are enforced.
I do.
I don't see why not, meaning everything is posible, like someone up jere said-"all variants may be right".
Or maybe none of them, i think thats what adds to the fun and the diversity of thinking.
I love the idea of some ancient race helping out evolution on earth by purpose or accident, but ultimately letting us be...alone till we evolve just enough to find them or maybe to stop the constant need of finding where we came from and focusing more to where we are going.
But then again...that's what i choose to belive.
Engineers created us because they wanted ... plastic!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NBRquiS1pis (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NBRquiS1pis)
We exist because of juiciness. ;D
I told y'all, we can thank an ancient alien race called the "ohcan" and their triangle shaped device the "otirod" for our very existence!
Quote from: Ingwar on Feb 14, 2019, 08:12:57 PM
Engineers created us because they wanted ... plastic!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NBRquiS1pis (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NBRquiS1pis)
George Carlin... Respect!
It is impossible.
Quote from: Voodoo Magic on Feb 14, 2019, 10:02:50 PM
I told y'all, we can thank an ancient alien race called the "ohcan" and their triangle shaped device the "otirod" for our very existence!
The races must mix until the time cube is defeated.
Quote from: The Old One on Feb 17, 2019, 06:32:25 PM
Quote from: Voodoo Magic on Feb 14, 2019, 10:02:50 PM
I told y'all, we can thank an ancient alien race called the "ohcan" and their triangle shaped device the "otirod" for our very existence!
The races must mix until the time cube is defeated.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Eo0mwyfkI6k
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Our DNA has been clearly tampered with, only "they" might know the true story (the people from the new world order), maybe you can find out by doing astral travel and talking to entities from other dimensions (assuming you dont face someone who is lying). But yeah pretty much, besides hollywood offers soft disclosure on some things, mixed with psychological warfare so you can never be certain.
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Yeah, and the Earth's flat.
Quote from: D88M on Feb 17, 2019, 09:34:51 PM
Our DNA has been clearly tampered with, only "they" might know the true story (the people from the new world order), maybe you can find out by doing astral travel and talking to entities from other dimensions (assuming you dont face someone who is lying). But yeah pretty much, besides hollywood offers soft disclosure on some things, mixed with psychological warfare so you can never be certain.
Tell her about the pedophiles.
Quote from: The Old One on Feb 17, 2019, 09:46:38 PM
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Yeah, and the Earth's flat.
And don't forget about elephants and turtle.
(https://www.syfy.com/sites/syfy/files/styles/1200x680/public/wire/legacy/1680x1050_discworld-terry-pratchett-wallpaper-e1367902680361.jpg)
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Quote from: The Old One on Feb 17, 2019, 09:46:38 PM
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Yeah, and the Earth's flat.
Seconding and stealing.
Quote from: TC on Feb 13, 2019, 08:54:29 AM
Yes.
I also believe the Earth is flat, the British royalty are Alien reptiles in human masks, and President Trump is a stable genius.
TC
'Alien: Awakening' plot?
LV-426's flat = The Nostromo landing was fake (https://i.imgur.com/HwQEjmi.jpg)
Shape-shifting Weyland (https://i.imgur.com/EWaZFs7.jpg)
David's redemption while fighting against lizard people (https://i.imgur.com/OuqSH97.jpg)
He looks so much like Christian bale in that movie.
Somebody said "Alien", he thought they said "Ancient Alien" so created a Youtube conspiracy channel.
Superior content, no doubt.
It was fun while trying to figure out "how to shoe-horn conspiracy theories into the Alien lore". ;D
The sad truth is that there are more stupid people in the world than smart people. I've come to believe that the Bell curve of human IQ is not symmetrical, but highly weighted towards the dumb end.
I was once in a lecture theatre when the tutor got sidetracked and told us how she could see peoples' auras. Gradually, other students in the room started saying how all of a sudden they could see her aura. She was darkly lit but standing in front of a bright white board. Apparently these people had made it all the way to adulthood and yet failed to notice the visual after-effect the eye responds with after observing a dark silhouette in front of a bright field.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Afterimage
No, these people weren't kidding around.
TC
Quote from: TC on Feb 19, 2019, 02:34:44 AM
The sad truth is that there are more stupid people in the world than smart people. I've come to believe that the Bell curve of human IQ is not symmetrical, but highly weighted towards the dumb end.
I was once in a lecture theatre when the tutor got sidetracked and told us how she could see peoples' auras. Gradually, other students in the room started saying how all of a sudden they could see her aura. She was darkly lit but standing in front of a bright white board. Apparently these people had made it all the way to adulthood and yet failed to notice the visual after-effect the eye responds with after observing a dark silhouette in front of a bright field.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Afterimage
No, these people weren't kidding around.
TC
I still can't believe there were people who thought titanic was just a movie.
Quote from: Huggs on Feb 19, 2019, 02:50:27 AM
I still can't believe there were people who thought titanic was just a movie.
I still cannot believe there are people who think that place like Auschwitz were made up and nothing bad really happened.
I still cannot believe it's not butter.
Quote from: SM on Feb 19, 2019, 07:36:24 AM
I still cannot believe it's not butter.
I wonder how many people got that reference. ;D
So maybe Ridley Scott kinda right in portraying stupid people in future? The things gonna to be much worse as time passes.
Quote from: Kradan on Feb 19, 2019, 12:12:11 PM
So maybe Ridley Scott kinda right in portraying stupid people in future? The things gonna to be much worse as time passes.
Yeah, I just can't go there.
Quote from: Kradan on Feb 19, 2019, 12:12:11 PM
So maybe Ridley Scott kinda right in portraying stupid people in future? The things gonna to be much worse as time passes.
IQs have been known to drop sharply.
I don't think it's that at all, it's not a Star Trek situation where Alien is showing the future at all- Alien is like many good Cyberpunk stories, in which the universe is a reflection of the now.
Quote from: P-Rock on Feb 19, 2019, 10:11:58 AM
Quote from: SM on Feb 19, 2019, 07:36:24 AM
I still cannot believe it's not butter.
I wonder how many people got that reference. ;D
It was still better thank parkay. Seeing a big tub of that crap in the fridge as a kid was depressing. Could've got a better spread from a proctologists trash can.
Quote from: Huggs on Feb 19, 2019, 04:49:05 PM
Quote from: P-Rock on Feb 19, 2019, 10:11:58 AM
Quote from: SM on Feb 19, 2019, 07:36:24 AM
I still cannot believe it's not butter.
I wonder how many people got that reference. ;D
It was still better thank parkay. Seeing a big tub of that crap in the fridge as a kid was depressing. Could've got a better spread from a proctologists trash can.
You haven't lived until you've tried the squeeze bottle.
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God that looks disgusting. Their color scheme was always shite.
This color scheme looks like detergent.
It tasted like something you'd drain out of a car. Bitter and just the consistency of pure yuck
Quote from: TC on Feb 19, 2019, 02:34:44 AM
The sad truth is that there are more stupid people in the world than smart people. I've come to believe that the Bell curve of human IQ is not symmetrical, but highly weighted towards the dumb end.
I was once in a lecture theatre when the tutor got sidetracked and told us how she could see peoples' auras. Gradually, other students in the room started saying how all of a sudden they could see her aura. She was darkly lit but standing in front of a bright white board. Apparently these people had made it all the way to adulthood and yet failed to notice the visual after-effect the eye responds with after observing a dark silhouette in front of a bright field.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Afterimage
No, these people weren't kidding around.
TC
Depends, I think it's more prominent on the internet. Probably makes it look worse.
It does explain a lot of things though. Like Twitter.
I don't get why believing in evolution is considered as smart but believing in Space God isn't.
Quote from: Kradan on Feb 21, 2019, 02:22:44 PM
I don't get why believing in evolution is considered as smart but believing in Space God isn't.
Because one is well documented with scientific evidence while the other is not ;)
Quote from: The Kurgan on Feb 21, 2019, 02:24:22 PM
Quote from: Kradan on Feb 21, 2019, 02:22:44 PM
I don't get why believing in evolution is considered as smart but believing in Space God isn't.
Because one is well documented with scientific evidence while the other is not ;)
Well, so then why it considered that they're contradict each other?
Talking of evidence. We still don't have time machine to see actually what happened and what didn't in the past.
You fools!!! We are living on the surface of a rich tea biscuit balancing on the end of a Jean Claude Van Damme roundhouse kick. Our existence is simply the bi product of the God Emperor Danny Trejo laughing at one of his own jokes.
Quote from: Kradan on Feb 21, 2019, 02:28:07 PM
Quote from: The Kurgan on Feb 21, 2019, 02:24:22 PM
Quote from: Kradan on Feb 21, 2019, 02:22:44 PM
I don't get why believing in evolution is considered as smart but believing in Space God isn't.
Because one is well documented with scientific evidence while the other is not ;)
Well, so then why it considered that they're contradict each other?
Talking of evidence. We still don't have time machine to see actually what happened and what didn't in the past.
As Kurgan said, evolution has evidence. If space gods had evidence the evidence would be given due consideration.
Quote from: SM on Feb 21, 2019, 09:08:22 PM
Quote from: Kradan on Feb 21, 2019, 02:28:07 PM
Quote from: The Kurgan on Feb 21, 2019, 02:24:22 PM
Quote from: Kradan on Feb 21, 2019, 02:22:44 PM
I don't get why believing in evolution is considered as smart but believing in Space God isn't.
Because one is well documented with scientific evidence while the other is not ;)
Well, so then why it considered that they're contradict each other?
Talking of evidence. We still don't have time machine to see actually what happened and what didn't in the past.
As Kurgan said, evolution has evidence. If space gods had evidence the evidence would be given due consideration.
But what if lindelof doesn't want you to know? What if they don't want you to know?
What if Ridley Scott is an Alien God?
He rules from his kingdom, dread R'dleh.
Quote from: Kradan on Feb 21, 2019, 02:28:07 PM
Quote from: The Kurgan on Feb 21, 2019, 02:24:22 PM
Quote from: Kradan on Feb 21, 2019, 02:22:44 PM
I don't get why believing in evolution is considered as smart but believing in Space God isn't.
Because one is well documented with scientific evidence while the other is not ;)
Well, so then why it considered that they're contradict each other?
Talking of evidence. We still don't have time machine to see actually what happened and what didn't in the past.
Well we do. The light from the stars tells us what happened. Plus all the fossil records.
Plus the waffles!
Quote from: TC on Feb 19, 2019, 02:34:44 AM
The sad truth is that there are more stupid people in the world than smart people. I've come to believe that the Bell curve of human IQ is not symmetrical, but highly weighted towards the dumb end.
I was once in a lecture theatre when the tutor got sidetracked and told us how she could see peoples' auras. Gradually, other students in the room started saying how all of a sudden they could see her aura. She was darkly lit but standing in front of a bright white board. Apparently these people had made it all the way to adulthood and yet failed to notice the visual after-effect the eye responds with after observing a dark silhouette in front of a bright field.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Afterimage
No, these people weren't kidding around.
TC
Some people are crazy. They think we're living inside an anime, or something :laugh:
While being an intelligent individual doesn't necessarily mean being a rational one (https://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Inverse_stopped_clock), I believe that things like a bad education & lack of critical thinking can make people see the world in black and white, which makes them embrace totalitarian ideologies, superstitions or fringe science. However, sometimes the Internet can make things worse.
https://twitter.com/guardian/status/1097233029846761472
Quote from: Kradan on Feb 21, 2019, 02:28:07 PM
Quote from: The Kurgan on Feb 21, 2019, 02:24:22 PM
Quote from: Kradan on Feb 21, 2019, 02:22:44 PM
I don't get why believing in evolution is considered as smart but believing in Space God isn't.
Because one is well documented with scientific evidence while the other is not ;)
Well, so then why it considered that they're contradict each other?
Talking of evidence. We still don't have time machine to see actually what happened and what didn't in the past.
The roots of the ancient aliens' concept are older than folks like Erich von Daniken or even prior to Lovecraft's fiction; (http://www.jasoncolavito.com/blavatsky-on-ancient-astronauts.html) with as a somewhat esoteric idea about metaphysical entities from the planet Venus, who played a key role in the development of the ancient civilizations.
Ok, perhaps the hypothetical idea of extraterrestrial visits in the ancient past is not entirely impossible (absence of evidence is not evidence of absence), but the disappointing truth is that they have been failed when trying to support their thesis. Nowadays it's only a dishonest business based on profit at the expense of people's ignorance.
https://vimeo.com/50767374
There's this great Futurama episode where the crew crashes or lands on a planet and in the end it turns out their cargo was what started evolution on the planet.
Something like that makes sense. Asteroid with small organisms or something like that.
There's a scientist or professor who says there's as many Earth-like planets as there are grains of sand on the beach.
So maybe something from one of those got here at some point.
How did it get there?
I hate panspermia.
"Where did life originate?"
"Somewhere else!"
"...ok, where did that originate?"
" .... somewhere else!"
It's such a f**king non-answer.
Quote from: SiL on Feb 24, 2019, 05:01:17 AM
I hate panspermia.
"Where did life originate?"
"Somewhere else!"
"...ok, where did that originate?"
" .... somewhere else!"
It's such a f**king non-answer.
This is just another tomb.
RNA formed DNA.
Miller–Urey experiment.
And RNA came from [we're still working on it].
A wizard did it.
Well there's also the possibility that life ends up the same. Be interesting when they find out whats on Mars.
Indeed, doubtful though.