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Poll
Question: What's your favourite Alien movie?
Option 1: Alien votes: 365
Option 2: Aliens votes: 579
Option 3: Alien 3 votes: 110
Option 4: Alien: Resurrection votes: 39
Option 5: Prometheus votes: 7
Option 6: Alien: Covenant votes: 7
Title: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: Darkness on Nov 01, 2006, 08:07:10 AM
What's your favourite Alien movie?
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Post by: The Ultimate Predator on Nov 17, 2006, 11:21:41 PM
Aliens, then Alien, then Alien 3, then Res.
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Post by: Darkness on Nov 18, 2006, 12:43:48 AM
Quote from: The Ultimate Predator on Nov 17, 2006, 11:21:41 PM
Aliens, then Alien, then Alien 3, then Res.

Yeah, that's my order too.
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Post by: The Ultimate Predator on Nov 18, 2006, 09:13:06 AM
Cool. Alien comes close to Aliens, but I do enjoy watching all of them since I've got the Quadrilogy set. ;D
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Post by: Corporal Hicks on Nov 25, 2006, 09:13:45 PM
I can never choose. I love the first three equally. Hate Res though.  :-\
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Post by: CELTICPRED on Dec 12, 2006, 06:29:05 PM
Aliens
Alien
Alien 3
Alien Res.
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Post by: Yautja on Dec 12, 2006, 06:38:19 PM

Aliens, Alien, Alien 3, Alien Ressurection.
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Post by: VenomX on Dec 12, 2006, 06:57:26 PM
I'll have to say the order they came out, actually.  :)

Alien, Aliens, Alien3, Resurrection.

I think action is great and all that, but the creepy eerie feeling and intensity of Alien, I just don't think Aliens can match. But I put both movies very close together still.
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Post by: maledoro on Dec 13, 2006, 11:53:50 AM
Alien
Alien³
Aliens

Wait! There was a fourth movie...?
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Post by: Corporal Hicks on Dec 13, 2006, 11:54:35 AM
You like 3 more than Aliens?
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Post by: maledoro on Dec 13, 2006, 11:58:57 AM
Quote from: Corporal Hicks on Dec 13, 2006, 11:54:35 AM
You like 3 more than Aliens?
Yes...

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Post by: Corporal Hicks on Dec 13, 2006, 12:02:18 PM
Any particular reason? Don't get me wrong, I'm not slamming you or anything - I like 1/2/3 all the same.
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Post by: maledoro on Dec 13, 2006, 12:31:40 PM
I liked the dark, eerie beauty of the movie. The bleak hopelessness that underlies the notion that nothing is certain and that one shouldn't expect a "Hollywood ending".

Aliens has been called a "roller coaster ride of a movie". In a way, the third movie was as well, but instead of rising into the air, the "ride" takes you underground, where one can almost see the "dark Satanic Mills" that Blake had written about.

Sure, one sees what one searches for, but there was a greater opportunity in Alien³ for one to find all kinds of metaphor, as it didn't rely on convention as Aliens had. There were all kinds of symbolism to be found in Alien³, especially Gnostic and alchemical. If there is any religious symbolism to be found, it's not the kind taught in Sunday School in little black books and pastel-colored paperbacks. It is more likely to be found in the writings of Böhme and the paintings of Bosch.

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Post by: Corporal Hicks on Dec 13, 2006, 01:19:02 PM
I really like 3 as well. I can't rate the first 3 in any order because I love them all for what they are. But seems you enjoy A3 for some the reasons I do.  :) I loved the gothic feel to it, especially the soundtrack which helped enhance the experience.
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Post by: The Ultimate Predator on Dec 13, 2006, 02:44:35 PM
Aliens
alien
Alien3

Though I have to re-watch 3 though, as I've seen the first loads of times.
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Post by: ShadowPred on Dec 13, 2006, 11:03:09 PM
Aliens
Alien
Alien Resurrection
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Post by: Amiiria on Dec 14, 2006, 04:44:21 AM
Aliens. Gotta love the space marines.  8) Then Alien, Alien³ and Alien: Resurrection - like most people.
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Post by: Newsfop on Dec 15, 2006, 01:29:18 AM
It's very hard for me on this one. Should I go with the classic original or the awesome sequel? I think when weighing the factores, Aliens comes up slightly ahead because more of the characters are likeable, and the dialogue is better. I'm a real stickler on the use of profanity. If you have to use it, say it in a method that makes sense and doesn't sound like a teenager saying it to sound cool. I also think that the reveal of the alien hive is one of the most disturbing sights to ever behold. The reveal of the queen was so subtle you almost don't think it's what it is until she moves.  :o
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Post by: frost on Dec 18, 2006, 12:01:04 AM
gotta be Aliens for me! :)
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Post by: DRACO ^V^ on Dec 18, 2006, 01:05:53 AM
ALIEN,{PURE NOSTALAGA}NOTHING MORE, NOTHING LESS
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Post by: FACEBOX on Dec 18, 2006, 06:07:53 AM
ALIENS
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Post by: Shaak on Dec 20, 2006, 10:01:57 AM
Definitely Aliens

But Alien has a more emotional significance for me  :)
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Post by: Newsfop on Dec 21, 2006, 04:06:48 AM
I stick A:R at the end of the list because it is a perversion, pure and simple. Nothing is pure at all except for the humans. Ripley is not all Ripley. The queen is not all alien, and neither are her spawn. They have very close resemblances, but the beasts also roar, which is very much new. The only explanation (other than bad direction or continuuity flaws) is that even the soldier aliens are tainted with human DNA remnants that gives them more vocal capeability than their usual hiss, shriek and squeel.
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Post by: G.C. Samaras on Dec 23, 2006, 04:08:58 AM
1. Aliens
2. Alien 3.
3. Alien
4. Alien: Resurrection
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Post by: Corporal Hicks on Dec 23, 2006, 11:38:58 AM
Alien/s/3
Alien Resurrection

I just can't seperate the first three into any order.
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Post by: That Yellow Alien on Dec 24, 2006, 05:42:28 AM
Aliens, Alien, Alien 3, A:R
Like most people ;D
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Post by: CPL HICKS on Jan 06, 2007, 03:32:16 PM
My favorite Alien movie is #2, or Aliens .
To me it's got a little bit of everything, even some humor thanks to Hudson(Bill paxon).
He's seems to always play some sort of wise cracking character.
Take for example his role in Predator 2, he always acts big and bad, but we all know he's not.
Don''t get me wrong I like him, in Aliens he seems to be the one to at least laugh at his antics.
I just love when he tells everybody 'why don't we put her in charge', referring to Newt being able to survive that long on her own, before they got there.
I'll admit after Alien 3, I kind of lost interest. I REALLY hope they can do #5, get it back to the old days so to speak, to bad Sigourney's getting up there in age, but I say who cares, it would'nt
be an Alien  movie without her.
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Post by: Aliendrone on Jan 06, 2007, 04:41:00 PM
Aliens, my reasons why....

A lot of Aliens.

Ripley.

Hudson's humor.

The badass Queen.
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Post by: CPL HICKS on Jan 07, 2007, 05:34:57 AM
Wow that's tough, well if I had to rank, though I like them all here goes.
#4- Alien 4
#3- Alien 3
#2- Alien
#1- Aliens
wow that was hard, please don't make me do that again.. Ha-Ha!!!
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Post by: Fitzley on Jan 07, 2007, 08:02:52 PM
Alien3--Assembly cut--more emotional and tense film...but it is usually a toss up between that and Alien.
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Post by: Stay Frosty on Jan 07, 2007, 08:06:10 PM
Alien/Alien 3 (re-cut)/Aliens/Alien Res

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Post by: ArchangeL on Jan 10, 2007, 01:31:28 PM

Alien.

Introduced a NEW, weird creature into the horror movie fold, rather than the generic looking beasticles and monsters.

Aliens wasn't too shabby though.
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Post by: SonOfTheDark on Jan 12, 2007, 09:44:29 PM
Aliens 8)
Great effects and production design, multiple Aliens, the Queen, cool and interesting characters and exciting story
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Post by: tucko on Jan 14, 2007, 10:15:55 AM
1.Aliens
2.aLien
3.Alien 3
4.Alien ressoruction

;)
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Post by: pandemonium on Jan 17, 2007, 12:55:38 AM
Alien and Aliens was by far the greatest, gotta love that queen in the second. Ressurection was a let down and i hope if they make a fifth its not half as bad as that one.
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Post by: PHANTOM on Jan 18, 2007, 06:08:14 AM
Aliens
Alien 3
Alien
Alien Resurrection

Although I did enjoy AR a lot, it's still at the bottom, not because I hate it. In fact, I just finished watching it today, and I really can't share most of your opinions about it, I thought it was pretty kickass, I love all the Alien films. Comon! Who didn't like the underwater scene in AR?! That scene will stay with me for the rest of my life, god I love that scene. Newborn was funny and scary at the same time, that f**king thing looked freaky, I would piss in my pants if I saw something like that come at me, especially if it thinks im it's mother or father lol ;D
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Post by: AtR on Jan 19, 2007, 01:15:52 PM
My vote goes for Aliens, really loved the marine action. Bill Paxton and Michael Beihn(Don't know how his last name is spelt) gave it a good feeling.
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Post by: batanga on Jan 19, 2007, 01:48:55 PM
Aliens
Alien
Alien3
AlienRES
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Post by: Blue_Flamed_Demon on Jan 21, 2007, 10:35:29 PM
My favorite alien movie would have to be aliens. I love that movie. It makes way more sense then the first one. My favorite part would have to be when the first encounter the aliens..........
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Post by: AtR on Jan 23, 2007, 02:04:43 PM
More like a marine slaughter =D
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Post by: SM on Jan 24, 2007, 01:43:04 AM
1- Alien
2- Aliens
3 - Alien3/ Resurrection
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Post by: Mystic Lemons on Jan 27, 2007, 02:12:42 PM
*waves hello to SM*

;D
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Post by: RPcnuwm on Jan 28, 2007, 04:51:02 AM
I'd rank them as follows...

Aliens
Alien 3
Alien
Alien Resurrection

Now before everyone gets upset that I put Alien so low...I really love the first 3 movies.  3 just had some great scenes that really stuck with me.  I suppose it is also the fact that I find 3 more rewatchable these days, at least the director's cut, than the original Alien film.

They are all great in my opinion, besides Resurrection that is.
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Post by: Dominion on Jan 30, 2007, 02:49:18 PM
Ok seeing as everyone else is ranking them.

1. Alien
2. Alien 3
3. Aliens

Some of you may have noticed that Alien ressurection was not there, that would be because in my mind that film does not exist. It was everything i didnt want in a Alien film. The colour scheme, the chracter, what they did with ripley and so on. Why oh why did joss wheddon write and allow fox to move it into production. Alien Resurrection has ruined any chance of an alien 5. Hence why alien vs predator was dawned. And even that was ruined.

I really dont see why fox and countless producers insist on letting really bad directors take control of franchise material thats so good! and let them ruin it (drives me crazy). Paul anderson claimed that he was a huge Alien and Predator fan............i think Alien Vs Predator pretty much explains alot lol.

End of rant  :)
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Post by: Scree on Feb 04, 2007, 12:53:52 AM
1. Alien
2. Alien 3
3. Alien Resurrection
4. Aliens
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Post by: ~Jarrecko~ on Feb 04, 2007, 06:33:38 PM
1.Alien Resurrection
2.Aliens
3.Alien3
4.Alien
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Post by: gojiramatthew on Feb 10, 2007, 01:27:18 AM
My order:

1. Alien

2. Aliens

3. Alien Resurrection

4. Alien 3
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Post by: Prowler on Feb 11, 2007, 07:25:16 PM
Aliens by far :) In my opinion the best of the whole alien/predator series. It's probably the best monster movie ever made IMO 8)
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Post by: ~Jarrecko~ on Feb 11, 2007, 07:37:15 PM
It's good but, I didn't like how the Marines hire Ripley as an advisor but, they don't listen to a damn thing she says.. :P
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Post by: Champiionser on Feb 12, 2007, 10:43:17 PM
1.Alien
2.Alien3
3Aliens
4.Alien:R
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Post by: Gangster Predator on Feb 14, 2007, 04:30:32 AM
1.Aliens
2.Aliens 3
3.Alien

I sure didn't like Alien resurection at all!!
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Post by: PFC-Hudson on Feb 18, 2007, 04:39:39 AM
Aliens, Alien3 then Alien.

I don't even find Res entertaining.  :-\
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Post by: Keyes on Feb 18, 2007, 01:16:00 PM
Gotta be Aliens. Great characters, great story, great creatures, great lighting...and then the ending! Just brilliant. It's a shame it suffers from the weakest transfer out of the 4 films on DVD.
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Post by: yauntja on Feb 21, 2007, 12:42:52 PM
Alien ! 8)
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Post by: Hankerson on Feb 21, 2007, 10:51:27 PM
If I have to choose, I guess I would go with "A L I E N". On my thirteenth birthday my grandparents bought me the "Alien Trilogy" box set; I watched all three, in order, that night. So, I've always considered the "Trilogy" one three part movie. Altogether the first three alien films make up the best science/fiction story ever written, perhaps the best story period.
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Post by: jx-7 on Feb 25, 2007, 04:39:01 PM
aliens
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Post by: shakermakerman on Feb 26, 2007, 12:56:28 AM
got to be aliens man
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Post by: anubis083 on Feb 27, 2007, 11:56:31 AM
Have to say Aliens, Aliens Resurrection, Alien 3, and Alien.  For me more is better.
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Post by: Tommy Jarvis on Mar 01, 2007, 02:25:49 AM
I'm gonna be one of "those guys" and say Alien 3 (Special Edition) takes the cake as my personal favorite in the Alien films. Next would be Aliens, then Alien. I would rank Alien Resurrection in there, but I try hard to block that movie out of my cognition. :)
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Post by: RockyM@ivia on Mar 01, 2007, 03:13:38 PM
Alien

Aliens

Alien 3

Alien Resurrection

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Post by: predator3789 on Mar 06, 2007, 09:27:16 PM
For me, its Aliens, because its loaded with the most action scenes, the first appearance of the Queen and I like the Marines.
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Post by: Krusher on Mar 07, 2007, 05:36:29 PM
Yeah the marines were the coolest bad ass ombres(I'm not spanish literate so ...) this side of the galaxy so ya aliens take the cake
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Post by: SiL on Mar 07, 2007, 09:05:20 PM
Question that always plagued me: What makes them bad-ass, exactly?
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Post by: SM on Mar 07, 2007, 09:59:09 PM
They had cool guns and dialogue.

(Just ignore the fact they got their asses handed to them.)

(I find that expression works better with 'ass' rather than 'arse'.)
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Post by: fluxcap on Mar 08, 2007, 01:11:56 AM
1/Aliens
Its all good, characters, action, story + dialogue, production design, and the queen. First film I saw of the four, I saw it when I was really young so I have a strong emotional attachment to it.

2/Alien
H.R. Giger's alien! Characters, cinematography, and some of the best production design ever.

3/Alien 3
After my initial displeasure the first time I saw it in the 90s I've grown to appreciate it much more. Fincher's stylistic conventions like those low camera angles are great. The look and downbeat feel of the film rocks. Also I've always loved the ending, it ends the trilogy appropriately.

4/Alien Resurrection
I'm a big fan of the director Jean-Pierre Jeunet (City Of Lost Children and Amelie, great flicks), his cinematography is fantastic, and the aliens themselves benefit from advancing technologies. Everything else is just a bad dream on celluloid. Although I credit the film for jump starting my rabid interest in movies.
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Post by: frosty_141 on Mar 13, 2007, 05:25:55 PM
aliens
alien
alien 3
alien res

what can i say alien is one hell of a movie (seen it about 48 times, know the script) its very strange how this movie has become an architype for action, yet it can never be duplicated eg. crappy doom lol like everyone here i am very biased towards alien movies and would never say any of them were bad, i think we all gained an appreciation for alien 3 after giving it a chance, i mean alien is a scary concept ship big ass alien, but a backwards prison- no weapons, all those shafts and tunnels, that is scary, but i think the fact there was only one alien made it alot scarier
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Post by: silversurfer on Mar 15, 2007, 01:53:38 PM
Alien and R
Aliens
Alien 3
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Post by: Predator Eldar on Mar 21, 2007, 07:26:17 AM
Alien 1 was a great film but, James Cameron in my opinion completely surpassed the first film with Aliens. It had everything that makes a great film.
Hands down my Fav :)
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Post by: ZombieSlayer909 on Mar 28, 2007, 01:36:07 AM
Aliens
Alien
Alien 3
Alien: Ressurection

Although I like all the movies and find they're all special in their own way.
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Post by: SiL on Mar 29, 2007, 01:57:02 AM
Quote from: Predator Eldar on Mar 21, 2007, 07:26:17 AM
It had everything that makes a great film.

Every piece of dialogue being a one-liner, dated effects, 2D characters, guns, explosions, simplified components to appease a mass audience... ? :P
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Post by: frost on Apr 04, 2007, 10:28:32 AM
Still Aliens! ;D
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Post by: PHANTOM on Apr 05, 2007, 04:50:00 PM
Aliens is the best! I'm about to revisit the Alien world again, watch Alien,ALiens,Alien3,AR and AVP oh yay! It's been awhile.
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Post by: Dingo on Apr 05, 2007, 05:35:25 PM
I have to say Alien 3 is my fav. Just the way it starts out from the end of Aliens where it was all happy and they're going home and then Ripley has everything ripped away from her right from the start.
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Post by: Vader the White on Apr 06, 2007, 01:48:13 AM
I love them all.

But,

Aliens ~ I just love every bit of it!!!!!!
Alien
Alien 3
A:R
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Post by: cygnus on Apr 07, 2007, 03:57:39 AM
Just joined the site, found a lot of useful stuff here 8)

Anyway, my favorite movie was Aliens, closely followed by Alien, then Alien Resurrection, and finally Alien 3.

I didn't care for Alien 3 that much, but it's still above AvP in my books :P

Ah well, glad to be joining this community. Thanks for the site :D
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Post by: RIJOENPIAL on Apr 09, 2007, 01:44:09 PM
Alien3 - Aliens - Alien - Alien Resurrection
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Post by: gameoverman on Apr 13, 2007, 04:27:22 PM
Alien 1 because it had the Space Jockey.  ;D
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Post by: dDave on Apr 15, 2007, 03:32:59 PM
1. Aliens (+marines,+++aliens,+++queen,++effects,++designs,++story,
++characters(++billpaxton^^)
2. Alien (+++original alien design,++++ambience,+++story)
3. Alien3 (+++new hybrid,++no weapons,+cool end,+++location,+character(+marv,dillon))
.
.
..Alien Resurrection (++alien design,+alien animation--new born,--strory of cloning ripley,+jona(ronperlman^^))
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Post by: Corporal Hicks on Apr 16, 2007, 07:58:25 AM
Quote from: gameoverman on Apr 13, 2007, 04:27:22 PM
Alien 1 because it had the Space Jockey.  ;D

So you're a Jockey man? Got your hands on Destroying Angels yet?
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Post by: BiggyMac04 on Apr 18, 2007, 03:09:55 AM
love all expet for Res it wasnt that good
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Post by: Kimarhi on Apr 20, 2007, 11:44:54 PM
Alien.  One of my favorite movies of all time.
Alien 3.  I liked the visual style, the alien design, the prison religion and the use of religious themes, the ending.  And the theatrical cut version of Dillon (I didn't like the assembly cuts Dillon because he was too zealoutish).
Aliens.  Once upon a time my favorite.  Still good movie, but the nuclear family thing gets old, and the aspects of the marines just don't seem realistic to me anymore. I've lived next to combat soldiers (or with combat vets in the case of my grandfather) all my life and none of them sound like they do in Aliens.  They are actual people, not Tarantinoesque badarses. I like it, I just don't like it as much as I did in the past.
Alien Res.  I thought it was pretty great halfway into the film, but when the Aliens escape it all goes to heck.  I like the humor in my stories to be in the dialogue during action/horror/scifi movies (unless of course its a comedy) rather than written into the script itself.  Things like Perez pulling his brains out, and the guy at the beggining of the DC squishing the bug just aren't funny.  It also kills the horror element.  As does standing around talking in the open relatively unnervous about your situation.  One or two good scenes from that point on (underwater/ladder scene was great imo) but little else.  I don't mind the newborn, but I HATED how it was implemented.
AvP: Nice visuals, impressive cgi and animatronics involving the queen.  Little else.
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Post by: Its Game Time on Apr 22, 2007, 08:44:02 AM
Here is my order of favorite alien movies.


Aliens
Alien
Alien 3

Yeah, i'm not even going to put Alien Resurrection on the
list. It doesnt deserve to be on the list. No Offense to Alien Res fans.
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Post by: Brett S.E. on Apr 22, 2007, 01:23:20 PM
Aliens - Alien - Alien3

the aliens just looked wrong in Res
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Post by: Nukiemorph on Apr 30, 2007, 03:17:34 PM
David Fincher is my favorite director.  I loved the extremely dramatic tone to the third film.
....Though I love the shit out of Alien and Aliens as well.  They're all really close.

Alien3
Aliens
Alien
AVP
Alien Resurrection
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Post by: incus on Apr 30, 2007, 04:58:14 PM
A tough question (really!) but on second thougths number one is Alien-still remember the creeps it gave me when I watched it for the first time in a small cinema with just a few people arond me!
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Post by: gameoverman on May 02, 2007, 12:56:29 PM
Quote from: Corporal Hicks on Apr 16, 2007, 07:58:25 AM
Quote from: gameoverman on Apr 13, 2007, 04:27:22 PM
Alien 1 because it had the Space Jockey.  ;D

So you're a Jockey man? Got your hands on Destroying Angels yet?

They depict Jockeys as elephant-like, don't they? 
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Post by: RayKai747 on May 04, 2007, 11:09:19 PM
Aliens 3
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Post by: Bad Ass Xenomorph99 on May 05, 2007, 08:57:50 AM
Alien3 and aliens are the best


hi ray remember me joshua?
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Post by: crypto84 on May 17, 2007, 06:53:47 PM
Aliens and Alien are both my number 1 favourites and I like AvP, Alien 3 and Resurrection equally since they are not as good as alien and aliens.
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Post by: gameoverman on May 18, 2007, 02:05:45 PM
Flame me like hell but I like Alien Resurrection - I saw it 6 times when it was first released.  And I like the special edition even more. 

I used to hate AVP too but now I'm growing to like it.  I must be getting old and senile or something because why the hell am I liking AVP? 
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Post by: YutaniDitch on May 18, 2007, 03:00:24 PM
Quote from: gameoverman on May 18, 2007, 02:05:45 PM
Flame me like hell but I like Alien Resurrection - I saw it 6 times when it was first released.  And I like the special edition even more. 

I used to hate AVP too but now I'm growing to like it.  I must be getting old and senile or something because why the hell am I liking AVP? 


I get that also: whenever I am not in the mood to see a serious movie, a drama or something heavy, I say 'Ok, let's see AVP again...'     :-[
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: Nukiemorph on May 18, 2007, 03:02:55 PM
Quote
Flame me like hell but I like Alien Resurrection - I saw it 6 times when it was first released.  And I like the special edition even more. 

I used to hate AVP too but now I'm growing to like it.  I must be getting old and senile or something because why the hell am I liking AVP? 
I personally don't think it's THAT terrible.  I wasn't too happy about the predator and human team-up, but I didn't think it was done too terribly.  Plus Paul added tons of nods to the Alien movies, like the shot of her pulling herself up resembling the shot of Ripley pulling herself up in "Alien", and the flare sending the light beam across the wall like the scanner in "Aliens".  I appreciated those little bits.  I also found the unrated cut to be an improvement.  Sure, they mainly just added CG blood, but I thought it was a hell of a lot more fun with it.  The only two things I hated about it are all of the slow-motion and the fact that it felt much more like a predator film.

So in conclusion: I'm a gorehound who likes his action fast-paced.  Needless to say, I'm looking forward to AVP2. :P
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: Alienseseses on Jun 03, 2007, 03:37:51 AM
Alien. Aliens. Rez SE. Alien 3. AVP.

Modify: AVP used a shot from Rez, the slo mo jumping over the ravine.
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: Alien Drone 531 on Jun 06, 2007, 09:36:48 PM
Shoot me For saying so but.... Alien Resurrection is my favorite for a few reasons:


1. You see the Aliens like 20 min.s into the movie
2. Its got the Look of Alien (ships)
3. Its got the feel of Aliens
4. Its got some really good music
5. Its a wicked cool story


;D

- ALIENS ROCK!



Edit:

Now that I've watched them all I Like Aliens Better and Alien and Alien3 Are tied at second place but I still love Alien Resurrection.
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: Its Game Time on Jun 08, 2007, 10:25:26 AM
Well, i aint going to shoot you but.....i do disagree.....especially about the story
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: War Wager on Jun 08, 2007, 12:23:28 PM
I'll agree with 4. I think its got really mysterous and beautiful music, probably the best in the series.
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: Kimarhi on Jun 08, 2007, 05:59:54 PM
I didn't appreciate the dark humor aspect in Alien Res.  It just made it seem nobody took the previous films seriously.  From the Director/Writers all the way down too the cast/characters themselves.
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: ElderPredator on Jun 12, 2007, 05:38:57 PM
alien 4, alien 3, alien
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: ShadowPred on Jun 12, 2007, 05:49:33 PM
Quote from: ELDERPREDATOR on Jun 12, 2007, 05:38:57 PM
alien 4, alien 3, alien



WHAT?!

NO love for ALIENS the movie?!
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: Its Game Time on Jun 13, 2007, 09:21:03 PM
Quote from: ShadowPred on Jun 12, 2007, 05:49:33 PM
Quote from: ELDERPREDATOR on Jun 12, 2007, 05:38:57 PM
alien 4, alien 3, alien



WHAT?!

NO love for ALIENS the movie?!


Not only do they not have love for the ALIENS movie, but they also has Alien Res on their list  :o
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: Platinumdragon on Jun 14, 2007, 05:29:02 PM
I say my favorites of the series are Aliens, Alien, Alien3, then Alien Resurrection. Aliens been the only movie that has given me nightmares after I had seen it.
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: Johnny Handsome on Jun 14, 2007, 07:31:38 PM
Alien, Aliens, Alien: Ressurection, Alien3.
But Alien is by far the best movie from all, Ressurection comes very close to Aliens.
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: Its Game Time on Jun 15, 2007, 08:42:56 AM
Aliens, Alien 3, Alien then Alien Resurection.
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: BKS_tmo on Jun 16, 2007, 02:28:26 PM
1 - Alien
2 - Aliens
3 - Alien 3
.
.
.
99 - AVP and Alien Resurrection
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: ShadowPred on Jun 16, 2007, 05:24:31 PM
Quote from: Its Game Time on Jun 13, 2007, 09:21:03 PM
Quote from: ShadowPred on Jun 12, 2007, 05:49:33 PM
Quote from: ELDERPREDATOR on Jun 12, 2007, 05:38:57 PM
alien 4, alien 3, alien



WHAT?!

NO love for ALIENS the movie?!


FOR SHAME >:(


Not only do they not have love for the ALIENS movie, but they also has Alien Res on their list  :o
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: Dekapitator on Jun 16, 2007, 08:20:39 PM
Or maybe he didn't see Aliens yet..
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: ShadowPred on Jun 16, 2007, 09:09:18 PM
WHAT?!

MAYBE DIDN'T SEE ALIENS YET?

what heresy is this?

LOL

Ya that's probably true...to everyone who has not seen it.

I highly reccomend this movie.
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: xeno_alpha_07 on Jun 17, 2007, 01:26:06 PM
Alien
Aliens
Alien3

;D
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: ElderPredator on Jun 21, 2007, 09:39:06 PM
Quote from: ShadowPred on Jun 12, 2007, 05:49:33 PM
Quote from: ELDERPREDATOR on Jun 12, 2007, 05:38:57 PM
alien 4, alien 3, alien



WHAT?!

NO love for ALIENS the movie?!
I forgot to put that one.
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: Dr. Wren on Jun 24, 2007, 12:50:44 PM
My fav has to be Alien Resurrection, then in order:

Alien Resurrection
Aliens/Alien
Alien 3

They are all really good movies, and it is hard to pick, but I like A:R most.
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: Kimarhi on Jun 24, 2007, 06:37:59 PM
At least your honest.
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: jimmylace on Jul 04, 2007, 05:13:02 PM
Alien 3 (assembly cut) then Alien, then Aliens, then (AvP) then Alien Resurrection.
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: Predboy on Jul 04, 2007, 05:51:00 PM
Aliens
Alien 3
Alien Ressurection
Alien

I like all the movies, just stating which I like the best. ;D
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: Sunset Pred on Jul 05, 2007, 06:25:22 AM
I like Alien. more then all of the other alien movies.
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: Dr. Wren on Jul 09, 2007, 04:32:21 PM
The other thing that you have to realize is that you can't compare Res to the others, otherwise it will be the worst in the series, Its not the same kind of movie as the other 3, the director even wanted it to be different.  Thats the only way that you won't hate it.
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: Predboy on Jul 10, 2007, 01:31:02 AM
I will never know what the problem is with people and hating res. I thought it was a pretty DESCENT movie. Yeah, the newborn thing was shit but that doesn't make the whole movie suck.
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: Dr. Wren on Jul 10, 2007, 02:14:22 AM
The thing that probably bugs most people is it's way different than all the other Alien movies.
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: Uncanny Antman on Jul 10, 2007, 05:39:08 AM
^That doesn't bother me...all four Alien films are quite distinct in style.  Each one is different from the others.
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: SiL on Jul 10, 2007, 05:46:50 AM
Yeah, but not that different. From nihilistic lived-in 'real' future to parody in one easy step.
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: SM on Jul 10, 2007, 06:14:48 AM
Aliens wasn't nihilistic.
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: SiL on Jul 10, 2007, 06:41:29 AM
Quote from: SM on Jul 10, 2007, 06:14:48 AM
Aliens wasn't nihilistic.
Which would be why I was talking about Alien3.
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: SM on Jul 10, 2007, 06:49:36 AM
Oh.  Thought you were talking about the first three.
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: SiL on Jul 10, 2007, 06:55:30 AM
Naw. All three had their own distinct feels, sure, but there was a common thread throughout that the fourth just ignored.
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: SM on Jul 10, 2007, 07:00:07 AM
Different time.  Different place.  Didn't bother me much.

Mind you, having thought about it - if you want nihilism, Ripley8 IS nihilism.  For most of Resurrection she doesn't care very much about much.  Not even herself on occassion.  She knows if she dies they can just bring her back again.
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: Alienseseses on Jul 12, 2007, 02:19:35 AM
Alien because-
A) we knew so little. How strong is it? Is this its final stage? How smart is it? Etc Etc.
B) The scene where Ripley is alone with it in the shuttle made me realize how isolated she was in space.
C) 1] the derelect, when the camera seemed hand held and panned the walls. Made it seem so real.
    2] the egg-nest seemed so infinite, it gave me chills.
D) the music
E)They were alone, millions of lightyears from nowhere. It had a sort-of 2001 Space Oddessy feeling.

Nothing has beaten it. Aliens, though great, lacked points A,B,D, and E. And it made the aliens so much less mysterious.

For future films, don't reveal the jockey. Raise questions, but never answer. That is point F: complete unsolved mystery.
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: BodySnatcher on Aug 03, 2007, 04:07:47 PM
Alien 3 i enjoy watchin the most it's f**kin awesome (and not the lame special edition just the theatrical cut)

The first three are like the perfect trilogy IMO and res ruined that but i can still watch it a s a popcorn movie for guilty pleasure.

Aliens i cant watch anymore it's been so overdone and the aliens in it are fodder IMO. Still a great film but the more i watch it the more flaws become apparent.
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: scholar on Aug 03, 2007, 04:13:05 PM
like the dead people and costums  :D :D
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: Sabreman on Aug 05, 2007, 08:09:26 PM
Hi!

My order is:

Alien, Aliens, Alien 3........................ Alien Resurrection

greetings!
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: SPEC. AGENT KEYES on Aug 06, 2007, 01:37:18 AM
Though Alien had that good mysterious vibe that left a lot of ques. Special Edition Aliens is awesome too.
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: Aeus on Aug 06, 2007, 10:45:42 PM
1.Alien
2.Alien 3
3.Aliens
4.Alien Ressurection
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: automirage04 on Aug 09, 2007, 12:12:21 PM
My favorites are the ONLY two Aliens movies that I will acknowledge.

A2, and A1. In that order.
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: Cellien on Aug 13, 2007, 05:28:30 AM
Quote from: automirage04 on Aug 09, 2007, 12:12:21 PM
My favorites are the ONLY two Aliens movies that I will acknowledge.

A2, and A1. In that order.

I pretty much agree with that.. Lots of people were fans of 3, but I just wasn't into the gothic thing.  It wasn't really a bad film, but just not what I expected for the franchise.  Res was simply out there.. Personally, I think that pretty much put the final nail in the coffin for the Alien IP.. at least for me.  It's yet to redeem itself.  :)  Amazing.. a movie made 21 years ago keeps me talking on these forums about the IP.. that movie was Aliens. 
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: gameoverman on Aug 13, 2007, 06:07:17 AM
Alien Resurrection is underrated I think.  It is it's own movie in a way and it was shot beautifully.  After 3 films, you had to try something different to keep the series fresh.  It was quite a brave experiment to get a director who had only made french films and let him run the show almost.

Given time, I think it will still hold up and maybe be as appreciated as Alien 3 is now.
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: Redfield on Aug 13, 2007, 09:47:10 AM
Quote from: gameoverman on Aug 13, 2007, 06:07:17 AM
Alien Resurrection is underrated I think.  It is it's own movie in a way and it was shot beautifully.  After 3 films, you had to try something different to keep the series fresh.  It was quite a brave experiment to get a director who had only made french films and let him run the show almost.

Given time, I think it will still hold up and maybe be as appreciated as Alien 3 is now.

well how much longer time do you want to give it? it's been ten years-- itll never be as good as my favourite, alien 3. I loved Sigourney's performance, plus also it was the scariest of the films, because of how it treats some of the main characters (eg Newt's body being ripped apart)

Quote from: automirage04 on Aug 09, 2007, 12:12:21 PM
My favorites are the ONLY two Aliens movies that I will acknowledge.

why the hell wont you acknowledge the other two? I dont have a problem with you saying you dont like them (i personally detest avp) but dont pretend they're not there.
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: War Wager on Aug 13, 2007, 12:58:44 PM
1. Aliens
2. Alien Resurrection
3. Alien3
4. Alien

I'm not saying Alien and Alien3 are bad movies, it's just I preffer action to horror...
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: Exiled on Aug 14, 2007, 07:23:07 AM
aliens was the shit! ;D
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: Its Game Time on Aug 15, 2007, 12:23:16 AM
Quote from: crazy_dbl_88 on Aug 14, 2007, 07:23:07 AM
aliens was the shit! ;D


I hope you are kidding
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: Uncanny Antman on Aug 15, 2007, 03:29:14 AM
That means he thinks it was good.

Shit = shit.
The shit = good.

That's slang for you.
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: Its Game Time on Aug 15, 2007, 05:19:09 AM
Quote from: Uncanny Antman on Aug 15, 2007, 03:29:14 AM
That means he thinks it was good.

Shit = shit.
The shit = good.

That's slang for you.

Oh i'm sorry i thought you said it WAS shit. I misunderstood.
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: SM on Aug 15, 2007, 05:45:33 AM
It's like bollocks = bad; the dog's bollocks = good.

Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: Its Game Time on Aug 15, 2007, 05:54:52 AM
I understand slang, it look like he said it was s**t.
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: Exiled on Aug 15, 2007, 07:01:55 AM
nah I ment it in the good way :D I can watch that movie a 100 times and still love it 8)
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: Huol on Aug 15, 2007, 01:51:21 PM
Quote from: SM on Aug 15, 2007, 05:45:33 AM
It's like bollocks = bad; the dog's bollocks = good.


What movie did used that again?
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: Hudson on Aug 16, 2007, 05:19:56 AM
Have to say Aliens; it's my favorite movie of all time.  Alien is a close second and I hate Resurrection.
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: SPEC. AGENT KEYES on Aug 16, 2007, 06:27:34 AM
Quote from: Hudson on Aug 16, 2007, 05:19:56 AM
Have to say Aliens; it's my favorite movie of all time.  Alien is a close second and I hate Resurrection.
Alien 3 took it in a wrong direction so i have to say that A3 was bad then A4 was horrible. Alien was the best story because without Giger and ridley scott creating the life cycle and the alien, we would not be seeing it today.
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: Gates on Aug 16, 2007, 07:13:46 AM
Quote from: PeterKeyes on Aug 16, 2007, 06:27:34 AM
Alien 3 took it in a wrong direction so i have to say that A3 was bad [...]

How did it take it in the wrong direction?
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: SPEC. AGENT KEYES on Aug 16, 2007, 08:23:30 AM
Quote from: Gates on Aug 16, 2007, 07:13:46 AM
Quote from: PeterKeyes on Aug 16, 2007, 06:27:34 AM
Alien 3 took it in a wrong direction so i have to say that A3 was bad [...]

How did it take it in the wrong direction?
the wrong direction? don't take me wrong, I thought A3 was good. but james cameron wanted the ripley,newt,hicks relationship to work out. A3 dissapointed a big crowd of people. A3 was supposed to be the last one, so it should of been realy good to just end it.
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: Gates on Aug 16, 2007, 08:52:13 AM
Quote from: PeterKeyes on Aug 16, 2007, 08:23:30 AM
Quote from: Gates on Aug 16, 2007, 07:13:46 AM
Quote from: PeterKeyes on Aug 16, 2007, 06:27:34 AM
Alien 3 took it in a wrong direction so i have to say that A3 was bad [...]

How did it take it in the wrong direction?
the wrong direction? don't take me wrong, I thought A3 was good. but james cameron wanted the ripley,newt,hicks relationship to work out. A3 dissapointed a big crowd of people. A3 was supposed to be the last one, so it should of been realy good to just end it.

I just don't see how killing them off went in the wrong direction...if Cameron wanted it another way he should of done Alien 3...
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: SiL on Aug 16, 2007, 08:53:46 AM
Quote from: PeterKeyes on Aug 16, 2007, 08:23:30 AM
the wrong direction? don't take me wrong, I thought A3 was good. but james cameron wanted the ripley,newt,hicks relationship to work out. A3 dissapointed a big crowd of people. A3 was supposed to be the last one, so it should of been realy good to just end it.
The makers of Alien didn't want the sequel to go the way Cameron did it. He just got a taste of his own medicine, is all.
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: SPEC. AGENT KEYES on Aug 16, 2007, 06:21:34 PM
A3 sure made the series a tad darker then on. not including AVP.
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: Its Game Time on Aug 16, 2007, 09:41:38 PM
I thought A3 was awesome, its my second fav alien movie but yeah, definetly agree about Hicks/newt thing. That really disapointed me.
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: SPEC. AGENT KEYES on Aug 16, 2007, 09:59:23 PM
Quote from: Its Game Time on Aug 16, 2007, 09:41:38 PM
I thought A3 was awesome, its my second fav alien movie but yeah, definetly agree about Hicks/newt thing. That really disapointed me.
I remember watching the behind the scenes of A3 and Michael Beihn was saying that he was really pissed off that his character died.
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: Its Game Time on Aug 16, 2007, 10:40:50 PM
Quote from: PeterKeyes on Aug 16, 2007, 09:59:23 PM
Quote from: Its Game Time on Aug 16, 2007, 09:41:38 PM
I thought A3 was awesome, its my second fav alien movie but yeah, definetly agree about Hicks/newt thing. That really disapointed me.
I remember watching the behind the scenes of A3 and Michael Beihn was saying that he was really pissed off that his character died.


I dont blame him
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: automirage04 on Aug 17, 2007, 04:16:10 AM
Quote from: Its Game Time on Aug 16, 2007, 10:40:50 PM
Quote from: PeterKeyes on Aug 16, 2007, 09:59:23 PM
Quote from: Its Game Time on Aug 16, 2007, 09:41:38 PM
I thought A3 was awesome, its my second fav alien movie but yeah, definetly agree about Hicks/newt thing. That really disapointed me.
I remember watching the behind the scenes of A3 and Michael Beihn was saying that he was really pissed off that his character died.


I dont blame him

I know! Its seemed like such a complete waste to just have him killed before anything went down. If they wanted him dead, they could have done it in a very powerful, fitting way...but they just tossed him out.
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: SPEC. AGENT KEYES on Aug 18, 2007, 03:14:31 AM
Quote from: automirage04 on Aug 17, 2007, 04:16:10 AM
Quote from: Its Game Time on Aug 16, 2007, 10:40:50 PM
Quote from: PeterKeyes on Aug 16, 2007, 09:59:23 PM
Quote from: Its Game Time on Aug 16, 2007, 09:41:38 PM
I thought A3 was awesome, its my second fav alien movie but yeah, definetly agree about Hicks/newt thing. That really disapointed me.
I remember watching the behind the scenes of A3 and Michael Beihn was saying that he was really pissed off that his character died.


I dont blame him

I know! Its seemed like such a complete waste to just have him killed before anything went down. If they wanted him dead, they could have done it in a very powerful, fitting way...but they just tossed him out.
he was swearing alot in the interview. his flashback brought just anger. if I was beihn, I'd shoot Fox.
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: Its Game Time on Aug 18, 2007, 03:20:42 AM
Quote from: PeterKeyes on Aug 18, 2007, 03:14:31 AM
Quote from: automirage04 on Aug 17, 2007, 04:16:10 AM
Quote from: Its Game Time on Aug 16, 2007, 10:40:50 PM
Quote from: PeterKeyes on Aug 16, 2007, 09:59:23 PM
Quote from: Its Game Time on Aug 16, 2007, 09:41:38 PM
I thought A3 was awesome, its my second fav alien movie but yeah, definetly agree about Hicks/newt thing. That really disapointed me.
I remember watching the behind the scenes of A3 and Michael Beihn was saying that he was really pissed off that his character died.


I dont blame him

I know! Its seemed like such a complete waste to just have him killed before anything went down. If they wanted him dead, they could have done it in a very powerful, fitting way...but they just tossed him out.
he was swearing alot in the interview.

I remember that
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: darkbladepred on Aug 18, 2007, 06:27:10 AM
Honestly I think Beihn had every right to be angry. But isn't it true he got paid more for his picture to be shown on the screen in A3 than his role in aliens?
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: Kimarhi on Aug 18, 2007, 06:15:49 PM
What gave him that right?  Cameron wasn't particularly interested in doing another Aliens film, nobody from the second movie approached the studio and said lets do Alien 3! At least not right after the movie was a blockbuster hit.

Cameron didn't protect his movie, the actors from the second film took no kind of stance or gave no indication that they wanted future sequels to be made starring them.  Therefore I don't think they have a right to bitch and moan about not being in future movies.  The same with Cameron.  If Cameron wanted his family to survive he should've penned the third film.  If you don't protect your work, then guess what happens?
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: automirage04 on Aug 19, 2007, 04:46:22 AM
Quote from: Kimarhi on Aug 18, 2007, 06:15:49 PM
What gave him that right?  Cameron wasn't particularly interested in doing another Aliens film, nobody from the second movie approached the studio and said lets do Alien 3! At least not right after the movie was a blockbuster hit.

Cameron didn't protect his movie, the actors from the second film took no kind of stance or gave no indication that they wanted future sequels to be made starring them.  Therefore I don't think they have a right to bitch and moan about not being in future movies.  The same with Cameron.  If Cameron wanted his family to survive he should've penned the third film.  If you don't protect your work, then guess what happens?

I'll agree that Cameron should have done more to protect the franchise after the second film, and that negligence is a big part of the reason that the franchise has become what it has....but I think that as an actor, Beihn has a right to feel like he was screwed. Protecting the film was up to the director/producer/writers. Beihn's responsibility went no further than bringing his character to life, which he did very well. Not putting him in A3 was a waste of his work in A2 in his eyes most likely.
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: SPEC. AGENT KEYES on Aug 19, 2007, 05:14:55 AM
Quote from: automirage04 on Aug 17, 2007, 04:16:10 AM
Quote from: Its Game Time on Aug 16, 2007, 10:40:50 PM
Quote from: PeterKeyes on Aug 16, 2007, 09:59:23 PM
Quote from: Its Game Time on Aug 16, 2007, 09:41:38 PM
I thought A3 was awesome, its my second fav alien movie but yeah, definetly agree about Hicks/newt thing. That really disapointed me.
I remember watching the behind the scenes of A3 and Michael Beihn was saying that he was really pissed off that his character died.


I dont blame him

I know! Its seemed like such a complete waste to just have him killed before anything went down. If they wanted him dead, they could have done it in a very powerful, fitting way...but they just tossed him out.
They should of atleast made him die off in the middle of the 3rd one. he could of been weak in the beginning. then got stronger. then have him battle off the runner and die trying.
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: Hudson on Aug 19, 2007, 05:21:47 AM
QuoteThey should of atleast made him die off in the middle of the 3rd one. he could of been weak in the beginning. then got stronger. then have him battle off the runner and die trying.

That's worse than just starting him off dead...

Why would you want to see Hicks again if he's just gonna die?  Michael Beihn should be thankful he wasn't in Alien 3 as he would've faced all its production problems first hand. 

As for everything you said about Alien 3 going in the "wrong" direction.  A reversal isn't wrong, it's just like any other plot convention.   
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: Kimarhi on Aug 19, 2007, 05:26:55 AM
Quote from: automirage04 on Aug 19, 2007, 04:46:22 AM
Quote from: Kimarhi on Aug 18, 2007, 06:15:49 PM
What gave him that right?  Cameron wasn't particularly interested in doing another Aliens film, nobody from the second movie approached the studio and said lets do Alien 3! At least not right after the movie was a blockbuster hit.

Cameron didn't protect his movie, the actors from the second film took no kind of stance or gave no indication that they wanted future sequels to be made starring them.  Therefore I don't think they have a right to bitch and moan about not being in future movies.  The same with Cameron.  If Cameron wanted his family to survive he should've penned the third film.  If you don't protect your work, then guess what happens?

I'll agree that Cameron should have done more to protect the franchise after the second film, and that negligence is a big part of the reason that the franchise has become what it has....but I think that as an actor, Beihn has a right to feel like he was screwed. Protecting the film was up to the director/producer/writers. Beihn's responsibility went no further than bringing his character to life, which he did very well. Not putting him in A3 was a waste of his work in A2 in his eyes most likely.

The series is noted for having heavy actor interventions taking place.  Weaver stood by two ideas long enough they eventually found their way into film.  If the cast was more proactive instead of reactive, who knows what would've happened.
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: gameoverman on Aug 19, 2007, 05:36:46 AM
Quote from: PeterKeyes on Aug 19, 2007, 05:14:55 AM
Quote from: automirage04 on Aug 17, 2007, 04:16:10 AM
Quote from: Its Game Time on Aug 16, 2007, 10:40:50 PM
Quote from: PeterKeyes on Aug 16, 2007, 09:59:23 PM
Quote from: Its Game Time on Aug 16, 2007, 09:41:38 PM
I thought A3 was awesome, its my second fav alien movie but yeah, definetly agree about Hicks/newt thing. That really disapointed me.
I remember watching the behind the scenes of A3 and Michael Beihn was saying that he was really pissed off that his character died.


I dont blame him

I know! Its seemed like such a complete waste to just have him killed before anything went down. If they wanted him dead, they could have done it in a very powerful, fitting way...but they just tossed him out.
They should of atleast made him die off in the middle of the 3rd one. he could of been weak in the beginning. then got stronger. then have him battle off the runner and die trying.

What would be the point of him if he was just going to be a cripple for half the movie anyway?  And then what?  He tries to protect Ripley and gets into a fight with a few prisoners or gets killed by the alien?

That's the whole point of Ripley.  She is always alone to fight the alien in the end.  Hicks would have softened Ripley somewhat.
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: Its Game Time on Aug 19, 2007, 09:09:03 PM
Quote from: darkbladepred on Aug 18, 2007, 06:27:10 AM
Honestly I think Beihn had every right to be angry. But isn't it true he got paid more for his picture to be shown on the screen in A3 than his role in aliens?


Yeah, i think so, thats what i heard.
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: brad873 on Aug 20, 2007, 10:57:35 AM
reserection is by far my fav. it wasnt as violent as the others but i liked the emotional bond riply had with the aliens, and how they were almost friends in bits. the human/alien reminded me of my nan (there both evil and deadly, lol) aand there eyes were similar. lol.

i like alien 3 second as it seems slightly similar to 1 and i like the fact it was not a human who was taken over.
aliens is second, because i have not seen it in years, and when i did, it was not all the way through, so im borrowing it later.
i wasnt very impresed with 1 but i did watch the directors cut, so it was to tame for me, its just gotta have viloens in plases. >:(
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: Huol on Aug 21, 2007, 11:27:59 PM
Quote from: brad873 on Aug 20, 2007, 10:57:35 AM
reserection is by far my fav. it wasnt as violent as the others but i liked the emotional bond riply had with the aliens, and how they were almost friends in bits. the human/alien reminded me of my nan (there both evil and deadly, lol) aand there eyes were similar. lol.

i like alien 3 second as it seems slightly similar to 1 and i like the fact it was not a human who was taken over.
aliens is second, because i have not seen it in years, and when i did, it was not all the way through, so im borrowing it later.
i wasnt very impresed with 1 but i did watch the directors cut, so it was to tame for me, its just gotta have viloens in plases. >:(

I'm sorry, i'm sorry... Taken over? Jesus christ...

You dislike Alien? And love ressurection?
Theres nothing i can say except you have extremly bad taste.
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: automirage04 on Aug 21, 2007, 11:36:55 PM
Quote from: Huol on Aug 21, 2007, 11:27:59 PM
Quote from: brad873 on Aug 20, 2007, 10:57:35 AM
reserection is by far my fav. it wasnt as violent as the others but i liked the emotional bond riply had with the aliens, and how they were almost friends in bits. the human/alien reminded me of my nan (there both evil and deadly, lol) aand there eyes were similar. lol.

i like alien 3 second as it seems slightly similar to 1 and i like the fact it was not a human who was taken over.
aliens is second, because i have not seen it in years, and when i did, it was not all the way through, so im borrowing it later.
i wasnt very impresed with 1 but i did watch the directors cut, so it was to tame for me, its just gotta have viloens in plases. >:(

I'm sorry, i'm sorry... Taken over? Jesus christ...

You dislike Alien? And love ressurection?
Theres nothing i can say except you have extremly bad taste.

Aye..... A:R made me want to kill myself. Would have worked too, if pounding my face agains ta wall hadn't made me pass out before I died.

*grumble* stupid concussion....
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: Exiled on Aug 22, 2007, 04:34:04 AM
I only like some of it cause of some good head bite kills :P the one where the guy solutes is my fav kill in all the movies ::)
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: darkbladepred on Aug 22, 2007, 04:37:19 AM
^ That was the cheesiest kill in all the movies too.  :P
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: brad873 on Aug 22, 2007, 09:07:07 AM
u know what i meen, it was late, what do u expect. ok, i liked 3 because the host was not a human. and as for my tast, we all have out opinions, its up to me what i like. jesus christ, everyone on this site is so bloody agresive and act like ass holes
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: borusi on Aug 22, 2007, 11:43:30 AM
Think the writers did an OK job with A4.. the story was still crap though I would have liked them to have explored the derelict ship. A3 didn't give them to much to work with though.
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: automirage04 on Aug 22, 2007, 04:41:36 PM
Quote from: brad873 on Aug 22, 2007, 09:07:07 AM
u know what i meen, it was late, what do u expect. ok, i liked 3 because the host was not a human. and as for my tast, we all have out opinions, its up to me what i like. jesus christ, everyone on this site is so bloody agresive and act like ass holes

Dude yes, you can have an opinion. We were just disagreeing with it. That is our opinion.

Calm down.
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: Kimarhi on Aug 23, 2007, 03:25:45 AM
Quote from: brad873 on Aug 22, 2007, 09:07:07 AM
u know what i meen, it was late, what do u expect. ok, i liked 3 because the host was not a human. and as for my tast, we all have out opinions, its up to me what i like. jesus christ, everyone on this site is so bloody agresive and act like ass holes

You gotta have some dog in you.  If you like Ares best, so be it.  Don't readjust your stance just because its not the popular thing to do.

Of course, you might cite why you like Ares more than the other films aside from the headbites, what else did you dig?
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: Gill Predator on Aug 23, 2007, 06:36:55 AM
Aliens
Alien Res.
Alien 3
Alien
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: brad873 on Aug 23, 2007, 07:19:31 AM
i just love the film, i love how smart the aliens were by killing there own to escape, a liked the swimming sceen, i loved the newbord and i loved all the faild ripply clones and a whole lot more ;D  (still think the more alien looking clone should have at leest moved a bit, that was creepier than the newborn)
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: Huol on Aug 24, 2007, 03:20:20 PM
Quote from: brad873 on Aug 23, 2007, 07:19:31 AM
i just love the film, i love how smart the aliens were by killing there own to escape, a liked the swimming sceen, i loved the newbord and i loved all the faild ripply clones and a whole lot more ;D  (still think the more alien looking clone should have at leest moved a bit, that was creepier than the newborn)
They wern't exactly smart... why kill one of their own when they can just cut themselves to burn through the glass?
OR
Imagine this... Bear with me.

SPIT ACID!
I know its crazy they don't spit acid at all!  ::)
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: Kimarhi on Aug 24, 2007, 04:04:34 PM
Hocking loogies might take longer than killing one of their own.  There was a massive amount of blood needed to make a hole big enough for them to escape in a short time so Gediman couldn't stop their escape by freezing them.

Also, spitting up a massive amount of blood still might amount to a dead alien, so the difference wouldn't be appreciated.

Cutting them wouldn't do much good.  A spit of blood, and then healed wounds, ala alien.
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: Huol on Aug 24, 2007, 05:12:47 PM
Quote from: Kimarhi on Aug 24, 2007, 04:04:34 PM
Hocking loogies might take longer than killing one of their own.  There was a massive amount of blood needed to make a hole big enough for them to escape in a short time so Gediman couldn't stop their escape by freezing them.

Also, spitting up a massive amount of blood still might amount to a dead alien, so the difference wouldn't be appreciated.

Cutting them wouldn't do much good.  A spit of blood, and then healed wounds, ala alien.
I said bleeding on the glass.
All it needs is a small amount of blood to burn into the glass thus destroying the windows stability.
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: brad873 on Aug 24, 2007, 05:20:14 PM
im sure that was predicted and they made some sort of acid proof glass cause the spit is weeker, but they never thought they would kill there own
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: Kimarhi on Aug 24, 2007, 05:24:49 PM
Quote from: Huol on Aug 24, 2007, 05:12:47 PM
Quote from: Kimarhi on Aug 24, 2007, 04:04:34 PM
Hocking loogies might take longer than killing one of their own.  There was a massive amount of blood needed to make a hole big enough for them to escape in a short time so Gediman couldn't stop their escape by freezing them.

Also, spitting up a massive amount of blood still might amount to a dead alien, so the difference wouldn't be appreciated.

Cutting them wouldn't do much good.  A spit of blood, and then healed wounds, ala alien.
I said bleeding on the glass.
All it needs is a small amount of blood to burn into the glass thus destroying the windows stability.

Glass is silicon, the same stuff supposedly found in the Alien.  I doubt acid would affect it much.
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: Huol on Aug 24, 2007, 05:43:17 PM
Quote from: Kimarhi on Aug 24, 2007, 05:24:49 PM
Quote from: Huol on Aug 24, 2007, 05:12:47 PM
Quote from: Kimarhi on Aug 24, 2007, 04:04:34 PM
Hocking loogies might take longer than killing one of their own.  There was a massive amount of blood needed to make a hole big enough for them to escape in a short time so Gediman couldn't stop their escape by freezing them.

Also, spitting up a massive amount of blood still might amount to a dead alien, so the difference wouldn't be appreciated.

Cutting them wouldn't do much good.  A spit of blood, and then healed wounds, ala alien.
I said bleeding on the glass.
All it needs is a small amount of blood to burn into the glass thus destroying the windows stability.

Glass is silicon, the same stuff supposedly found in the Alien.  I doubt acid would affect it much.

Damn, the preds should have used silicone wristblades huh?
Is silicone the material we have long searched for? An acid proof material? We should start producing acid proof suits immediatly...  ::)
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: Kimarhi on Aug 24, 2007, 07:16:54 PM
It would be somewhat hard to make glass suits wouldn't it?  Likewise a glass blade would do what to the alien?

Ceramics can be acid proof, yet you will never see ceramic body armor.  Why?  Because its the same stuff that makes up your toilets.  Likewise, despite glass and ceramics having the ability to break and produce jagged edges, the fact that they are so brittle doesn't lend itself to a jabbing weapon under concussive force.

Silicone, and silicon are two different things.  Silicone goes in a woman's boobs.  Silicon is what you use to make computer chips and glass.

Maybe the Aliens knew that despite the glass appearing thin (which it may or may not have been) a headstrike aimed at gediman capable of punching through ferro's helmet and her skull didn't penetrate at all.  Its headbutt did no damage either.  Thus they knew the floor would be a better chance of escape.  Since their own bodies consist of polarized silicon (which Ash says quite explicitly in Alien), they maybe they knew at some level they'd be better off eating through the floor, than the stuff their OWN bodies were made of.
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: Warrior Drone on Aug 24, 2007, 08:19:43 PM
1.A  L  I  E  N
2.ALIEN 3
3.ALIENS
4.A L I E N:RESSURECTION
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: Dino21AvP on Aug 24, 2007, 09:39:33 PM
-Aliens
-Alien
-Alien 3
-Alien Resurrection
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: Ok7 on Aug 24, 2007, 10:41:15 PM
Aliens
Alien
Alien Res.
Alien 3
AvP
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: Daunty on Aug 25, 2007, 10:48:47 PM
Aliens
Alien
Alien³
Alien:Res
AvP :')

God I love Aliens.  ;D
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: The Chibi Kiriyama on Aug 26, 2007, 06:34:08 AM
Alien takes it by a mile. From the atmosphere to the true sense of science fiction to the plot and the way the actors add to it, Alien is truly a horror classic. Aliens was a good concept, but will always be second best in comparison. Alien 3, while not nearly as bad as the masses believe it to be, is a somewhat disappointing film; it's not what I expected, but it's ultimately a good try...just a bit too detached and dystopian for my tastes. I don't even feel I need to get into why Alien: Resurrection was bad...the film is synonymous with my bathroom toilet for a bad place to search for cinematic gold.

It's sort of sad this franchise's best can be summed up in order from 1 to 4.
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: Warrior Drone on Aug 26, 2007, 05:27:25 PM
Quote from: The Chibi Kiriyama on Aug 26, 2007, 06:34:08 AM
Alien takes it by a mile. From the atmosphere to the true sense of science fiction to the plot and the way the actors add to it, Alien is truly a horror classic. Aliens was a good concept, but will always be second best in comparison. Alien 3, while not nearly as bad as the masses believe it to be, is a somewhat disappointing film; it's not what I expected, but it's ultimately a good try...just a bit too detached and dystopian for my tastes. I don't even feel I need to get into why Alien: Resurrection was bad...the film is synonymous with my bathroom toilet for a bad place to search for cinematic gold.

It's sort of sad this franchise's best can be summed up in order from 1 to 4.
You raise some good points. Alien is too my favorite out of all of them, with Alien 3 not far behind just because i like the feel of one alien more than anything.
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: arnold23 on Aug 26, 2007, 06:43:13 PM
They are all good but all very different.

Scott, Cameron, Fincher Juenet, and *cough* Anderson all have very different ways of making movies.

Story wise Alien is the best.  It is the creepiest thing being all alone and far from earth.
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: Hellspawn28 on Aug 29, 2007, 08:46:05 PM
My Favourite Alien movie is the first alien movie.
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: Harkus on Sep 03, 2007, 02:54:34 PM
Alien 3 for me. The actors did an amazing job and killing newt at the beginning was a bonus  ;D
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: Exiled on Sep 03, 2007, 02:56:12 PM
newt was OK but I didn't want hicks killed off
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: Harkus on Sep 03, 2007, 02:57:54 PM
I don't think anybody did but look on the brightside we got Dillon instead.
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: Exiled on Sep 03, 2007, 03:03:44 PM
but he died ;D
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: Harkus on Sep 03, 2007, 03:05:45 PM
Quote from: crazy_dbl_88 on Sep 03, 2007, 03:03:44 PM
but he died ;D

that he did, at least it was a significant and dignified death unlike hicks's  ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: Exiled on Sep 03, 2007, 03:06:46 PM
good point :D
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: Harkus on Sep 03, 2007, 03:07:54 PM
Quote from: crazy_dbl_88 on Sep 03, 2007, 03:06:46 PM
good point :D

Well morse was good to and he didn't die.
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: Porkus Maximus on Sep 03, 2007, 03:10:29 PM
QuoteGlass is silicon, the same stuff supposedly found in the Alien.  I doubt acid would affect it much.

Ripley's blood had no problem eating through the window on the Betty and her blood is no where near as caustic as pure alien blood.
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: brad873 on Sep 03, 2007, 07:56:07 PM
but the betty wasnt part of the station, and wasnt ment to hold aliens.
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: brad873 on Sep 03, 2007, 07:57:30 PM
im afraid after waching them all i have to change my answer.

a:r
alien
alien 3
aliens

i didnt think much of aliens :-[
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: Chaotic-Strike on Sep 03, 2007, 09:45:17 PM
aliens
alien
alien3
ressurection

yea aliens was a bit better than alien imo though I still hold alien a awesome film. aliens isnt that hard to pass if an new alien movie came out it could easly pass it if someone puts in enough effort but who knows what could happen after all fox still regulates the series. if not alien 5 I would like a reboot because I feel the alien series could use a erase of events im looking at you ressurection and avp.

with scot ridley doing an entirely new reboot same creature same unknown backstory just different characters
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: Harkus on Sep 04, 2007, 09:26:36 AM
Quote from: brad873 on Sep 03, 2007, 07:57:30 PM
im afraid after waching them all i have to change my answer.

a:r
alien
alien 3
aliens

i didnt think much of aliens :-[

I think your the first person I've ever seen that's rated A:R as the best.
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: Exiled on Sep 04, 2007, 12:20:35 PM
Quote from: Harkus on Sep 04, 2007, 09:26:36 AM
Quote from: brad873 on Sep 03, 2007, 07:57:30 PM
im afraid after waching them all i have to change my answer.

a:r
alien
alien 3
aliens

i didnt think much of aliens :-[

I think your the first person I've ever seen that's rated A:R as the best.

ditto
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: Harkus on Sep 04, 2007, 01:06:21 PM
brad873 do you mind elaborating on why you thought rez was the best?
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: brad873 on Sep 04, 2007, 03:08:59 PM
i dont know, its just the color of it rhat i like, not to blue or dark, an i liiked that the aliens could learn faster. i didnt like the queen at all, she looked to human with the way she was sitting with her egg sack, should have been behinde her, not in front. aliens wasnt a bad film, but it was a bit lifesless for me, i know it was made a while ago, but there wernt anough aliens, and when riply held the queen over the hatch, it didnt move. its just one of those things you cant realy explain well.
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: automirage04 on Sep 05, 2007, 01:06:25 AM
Quote from: brad873 on Sep 04, 2007, 03:08:59 PM
i dont know, its just the color of it rhat i like, not to blue or dark, an i liiked that the aliens could learn faster. i didnt like the queen at all, she looked to human with the way she was sitting with her egg sack, should have been behinde her, not in front. aliens wasnt a bad film, but it was a bit lifesless for me, i know it was made a while ago, but there wernt anough aliens, and when riply held the queen over the hatch, it didnt move. its just one of those things you cant realy explain well.

I'll admit that the queen vs Ripley scene was the worst scene in that movie, but it still made more sense than ANY of the scenes in A:R

....and The Newborn was dumber any other movie monster ever conceived. And the queen giving live birth was probably the dumbest scene in movie history. And that includes any and all scenes in AVP.
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: Vemados on Sep 05, 2007, 01:34:45 AM
Alien3
Alien
Aliens
Alien Resurrection

Alien3 I think had the best characters.  Dillon's character was the most in-depth character of the entire series, and we know that movies are only as good as the characters make them.

None of the movies could beat the original Alien for suspense.  The originals are always best because you're introducing the monster instead of just building on things we've seen already.

Aliens I've seen too many times... as one of the posters said near the beginning of the thread it's a rollercoaster ride of action, but absolutely no suspense.

Alien: Resurrection... God I don't like this movie.  I've only seen it all the way through 3 times: the first time I watched it, then I watched it again because I missed some stuff, and the third time because I got the Quadrilogy and wanted to see the Special Edition. After that I always just stop it at the "Viper Pit" scene when they take Ripley to the Queen.
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: Kimarhi on Sep 05, 2007, 01:40:33 AM
Quote from: Porkus Maximus on Sep 03, 2007, 03:10:29 PM
QuoteGlass is silicon, the same stuff supposedly found in the Alien.  I doubt acid would affect it much.

Ripley's blood had no problem eating through the window on the Betty and her blood is no where near as caustic as pure alien blood.

You have to acid proof glass for it to be acid proof, but maybe the alien has the ability to do that, since acid proofing (if I remember right) is done through heat and some chemical reaction.  Its on teh interwebz.
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: Harkus on Sep 05, 2007, 04:20:17 PM
Quote from: Vemados on Sep 05, 2007, 01:34:45 AM
Alien3
Alien
Aliens
Alien Resurrection

Alien3 I think had the best characters.  Dillon's character was the most in-depth character of the entire series, and we know that movies are only as good as the characters make them.

Yep Alien 3 did have the best characters
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: H.r.giger fan on Sep 07, 2007, 02:35:31 AM
QuoteI liked the dark, eerie beauty of the movie. The bleak hopelessness that underlies the notion that nothing is certain and that one shouldn't expect a "Hollywood ending".

Aliens has been called a "roller coaster ride of a movie". In a way, the third movie was as well, but instead of rising into the air, the "ride" takes you underground, where one can almost see the "dark Satanic Mills" that Blake had written about.

Sure, one sees what one searches for, but there was a greater opportunity in Alien³ for one to find all kinds of metaphor, as it didn't rely on convention as Aliens had. There were all kinds of symbolism to be found in Alien³, especially Gnostic and alchemical. If there is any religious symbolism to be found, it's not the kind taught in Sunday School in little black books and pastel-colored paperbacks. It is more likely to be found in the writings of Böhme and the paintings of Bosch.

Thank you
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: The Diesel on Sep 07, 2007, 04:36:32 AM
Quote from: Darkness on Nov 18, 2006, 12:43:48 AM
Quote from: The Ultimate Predator on Nov 17, 2006, 11:21:41 PM
Aliens, then Alien, then Alien 3, then Res.

Yeah, that's my order too.
Mine as well.
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: redalert51 on Sep 08, 2007, 01:43:32 AM
Quote from: The Ultimate Predator on Nov 18, 2006, 09:13:06 AM
Cool. Alien comes close to Aliens, but I do enjoy watching all of them since I've got the Quadrilogy set. ;D
I agree as well, 
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: Warrior Drone on Sep 08, 2007, 01:44:37 AM
I changed mine:

Alien3:
+:On the positive side:It had the most developed characters of the entire series, and they were funny as hell! The soundtrack was epic, especially when dillon is in the lead mold with the alien. The lines were great. For instinse: f**k You!- Dillon, and: IS THAT AS HARD AS YOU BITE MOTHERF**KER!!!?, and i could go on and on. The lighting was good as well, and the end was cool. I prefer the theatrical release to the special edition, mainly becuase i like dog alien better than ox alien, an ox alien should have horns and hooves. And in the theatrical version the queen buster actually comes out of her chest as it does not in the special edition.
-:On the negative side:The alien motion was to jerky, it looked really stone age to me. And dont even get me started on the death seens, most of them just want to make u lol rather then cringe. Not much else to say. Other than the dog burster sequence which was pretty pathetic. ;)
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: Kimarhi on Sep 08, 2007, 04:00:26 AM
I always thought he said, "Is that as hard as you fight,"

I suppose bite makes as much sense.
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: Alien Freak on Sep 09, 2007, 06:09:35 PM
Alien, Aliens, Alien 3, then Alien Ressurection. Guess the newer-ish ones just aren't as good.
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: Rotaderp on Sep 09, 2007, 09:19:07 PM
Its Alien for me!!
Gotta love the classics
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: brad873 on Sep 09, 2007, 09:22:11 PM
ok ok, ichang mine again after waching them all in a row.

alien 3
alien
res
aliens

alien and alien 3 were similar but differant. alien 3 went back to the roots. one alien, and just a few victime. there were loads of places for it to hid and it show a level of intelegens. aliens wasnt bad, in fact, i loved it to, but the music was bland and the aliens in it didnt look that great, pluse the way there mouth moves before a head bite
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: DEATHGRIND on Sep 10, 2007, 10:25:45 PM
Aliens is my favorite mainly because there are a lot more aliens in that one.  There seems to be more action in it too.
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: venom1104 on Sep 10, 2007, 10:36:56 PM
aliens cause of the design of the aliens and the queen
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: xenomorph36 on Sep 14, 2007, 01:39:36 PM
alien 3
aliens
a r
alien

alien is a good movie but it's waaaaaaaaaaaay too boring for my taste  :-\
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: Anomaly on Sep 18, 2007, 12:50:58 AM
I think for the sheer commitment to its plot and environment, Alien must be commended. I watch that film sometimes to simply see a very straight faced vision of a futuristic space exploration. but I thought the movie that rocked the franchise the most without sacrificing substance was Aliens. Alien 3 stayed true to the first 2 also. In fact I thought it was the grimiest and most depending on its characters than the other two.

Aliens
Alien
Alien 3
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: Predator Cold War on Sep 22, 2007, 03:49:34 PM
i loved alien and aliens, the third one is kinda lame but still fits in the franchise, i didnt like the digital alien in the 3rd one either.
and as for resurection well lets just say it kinda $u$^& donkey balls.
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: Kimarhi on Sep 24, 2007, 03:54:35 AM
There is no cgi footage in Alien 3 save for the alien's head cracking at the very end.
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: Chocolate man! on Sep 24, 2007, 10:09:22 AM
Quote from: xenomorph36 on Sep 14, 2007, 01:39:36 PM


alien is a good movie but it's waaaaaaaaaaaay too boring for my taste  :-\

Yeah, I find it boring as well.  I only watch it once every blue moon, rather then all the time like with the other 3 Alien movies.

BTW, this is my order:
Alien 3
Aliens
Alien R
Alien
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: That Yellow Alien on Sep 25, 2007, 12:40:54 AM
I don't know about you guys, but I'm warming up to Alien 3 even more so than I used to. I just recently rewatched it and it is an amazing movie. How people can hate it baffles me. It deals with so many themes, like dependence on religion, personal apocalypse and sacrifice, desperation, insanity, murder, rape, and redemption. It focuses on the Alien the least of all the Alien films. Of course I'm talking about the assembly cut which, after seeing and going back to the theatrical, makes the theatrical cut seem even more disjointed and rushed. It might even become my favorite of the films in do time. I love all three Alien films and it is one of the better trilogies out there. Forget A:R, Alien 3 is the end. A:R is just a comic book.
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: Der_Meister on Sep 28, 2007, 10:10:27 PM
Alien
Aliens
Alien Res
Alien 3


Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: Spidey3121 on Sep 29, 2007, 03:49:31 PM
From best to wrose...

Alien
Aliens
Alien 3
AvP*
Alien Resurrection

I stuck AvP in there b/c hey, it is an alien movie just as the rest of them are.
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: Kriszilla on Oct 08, 2007, 06:36:51 PM
I voted Alien 3 (Flamers can piss off right now).

I just liked the idea, it was differently set up than Alien, but had the same sort of dynamic. I liked the Dog Alien design, its just a shame that they screwed Giger around during this one.

My fave character from any Alien movie was Morse incidentally. He was a coward, and an annoying loudmouth, but I always thought he did it in a funny way. Especially the scene where he is laughing with his friend with the bandaged head, then his friend gets headbitten. Also his constant and obvious attempts to piss off the other inmates.

"Hey guys... My door ain't workin' I think we better re-think this thing!"
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: dale07 on Oct 08, 2007, 06:39:16 PM
alien and aliens are the best the other two are ok but nowhere near as good as the first 2
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: That Yellow Alien on Oct 09, 2007, 05:17:04 AM
Quote from: Kriszilla on Oct 08, 2007, 06:36:51 PM
I voted Alien 3 (Flamers can piss off right now).

Despite what you may think, many people like Alien 3 now, so you won't get flamed. If you liked A:R, however...
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: The Chibi Kiriyama on Oct 09, 2007, 06:28:27 AM
A:R can burn in Hell. Seriously, my hate for that movie is neverending. Some people actually think it's better than Alien 3... ::)
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: Kriszilla on Oct 09, 2007, 03:01:22 PM
Nah, A:R sucks ass.
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: That Yellow Alien on Oct 09, 2007, 05:41:56 PM
It is a very weird movie. That new opening on the special edition of A:R, while interesting, is just so out there and out of place words can not describe it. It can only be seen. It's blatantly obvious that it was directed by a French.

Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: War Wager on Oct 09, 2007, 05:45:55 PM
Well I'm one of the few who actually likes Resurrection. Sure it was unesesary, but it's still an exiting and entertaining movie. Alien3 however is hardly any of both. Don't get me wrong it's a great movie, but I still think Resurrection is heaps better... 
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: Spidey3121 on Oct 10, 2007, 06:53:23 PM
I really don't find Resurrection to be either Exciting or Entertaining. I mostly found the film boring + cringe worthy. There were a few good actions sequences but not much else in my opinion.
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: Pvt. Hicks on Oct 10, 2007, 11:46:34 PM
Aliens 10/10
Alien 10/10
Alien 3 10/10 (AC)
Alien Resurrection 7/10
AvP 1/10
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: That Yellow Alien on Oct 11, 2007, 04:46:48 AM
Quote from: Spidey3121 on Oct 10, 2007, 06:53:23 PM
I really don't find Resurrection to be either Exciting or Entertaining. I mostly found the film boring + cringe worthy. There were a few good actions sequences but not much else in my opinion.

I agree. I think the only good things about A:R are Ron Perlman, the music, the underwater scene, and some of the gore shots.
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: Vemados on Oct 12, 2007, 02:44:21 AM
Quote from: Yellow Alien on Oct 11, 2007, 04:46:48 AM
Quote from: Spidey3121 on Oct 10, 2007, 06:53:23 PM
I really don't find Resurrection to be either Exciting or Entertaining. I mostly found the film boring + cringe worthy. There were a few good actions sequences but not much else in my opinion.

I agree. I think the only good things about A:R are Ron Perlman, the music, the underwater scene, and some of the gore shots.

Don't forget Christie.  He was badass.
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: ElderPredator on Oct 12, 2007, 04:03:37 AM
Mine are now:

Alien
Aliens
Alien 4
ALIEN3
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: brad873 on Oct 12, 2007, 07:12:53 PM
alien 3 is my fave, as i sed before. i used to love A:R, but after tinking about it, it wasnt that good. it had alot of potential, but it was wasted
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: Spidey3121 on Oct 12, 2007, 07:23:18 PM
Yeah, some of the core concepts in Alien Resurrection interesting but it was so poorly executed, in every aspect of the word (in my opinion). Government/Corporate experimentation with Aliens makes perfect sense to me which is one of the key plot points to Alien Resurrection. People have been trying to get their hands on a Xeno since the 1st film all the way up to the end of Alien 3. Why though must they clone Ripley to do so? You don't think they could have found another Alien or Egg in the 200 years it took to clone her? I understand she had a queen inside her but it still seems like they should have been able to get their hands on a Xeno in the 200-year gap between 3 + 4.
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: joballs45 on Oct 13, 2007, 12:01:15 AM
aliens hands down for action but as far as scary movie alien is classic
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: LAWNMOWERMAN on Oct 13, 2007, 05:59:22 AM
ALIENS just barely edges out ALIEN only because i saw it first

both a true master pieces in their own right

it should be noted that
ALIEN no qeustion set the standard and benchmark for the entire franchise, so really it's be placed off on it's own

ALIEN3 was a good film it was just fell victim to certain circumstances - but still a good film

ALIEN RESURRECTION had the least greatest story of the franchise but what it lacked in story it made up for in action, visual stand piont etc.
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: CanadianHero67 on Oct 14, 2007, 10:30:24 PM
 Aliens is my favourite. :)
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: joballs45 on Oct 14, 2007, 11:48:53 PM
something about alien just gives me the creeps the scenery and atmosphere great movie
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: That Yellow Alien on Oct 15, 2007, 03:38:30 AM
A:R sucks even as an action movie. It has one set piece. The closest thing I can think of to call it is a "sci-fi black comedy".
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: Wolf Sazen on Oct 23, 2007, 02:31:22 AM
Aliens
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: Lt.EllenRipley on Oct 23, 2007, 06:52:45 AM
Aliens, no doubt, takes my cake. If only because I remember seeing it at a drive in theater bundled up in a blanket in the back seat of the car and loved Ripley to death. Fond memories makes anything better ^_^

However, Alien still rocks, but I didn't really understand it so well when I was little.
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: RedIce on Oct 28, 2007, 06:17:44 PM
Aliens, straight up.
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: Der_Meister on Oct 30, 2007, 09:58:41 PM
tie between Alien and Aliens

screw it , Im gonna watch Alien now ;D
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: Bob Saget on Oct 31, 2007, 03:30:57 AM
close call, im gonna say aliens, but alien was probably more influential, i just love pretty much everything about aliens
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: sonofcesare on Oct 31, 2007, 05:30:48 PM
I vote Aliens all the way! It had the most action, aliens, and had the best storyline.  ;)
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: OneThousandEyes on Nov 04, 2007, 01:39:44 PM
Quote from: joballs45 on Oct 14, 2007, 11:48:53 PM
something about alien just gives me the creeps the scenery and atmosphere great movie

Yes, there is no other film ( perhaps 2001: A Space Odyssey ) that has achieved the same level of atmosphere and unease. It really is in a league of its own. Aliens also has a great mood
throughout, but I can't ignore the fact that the aliens get slaughtered during its course... if it was a standalone film and first in the series, it would pretty much be on par with the original as far as I'm concerned.

Alien: Timeless classic, best creature design ever conceived, eerie and disturbing from start to finish, superb acting, great retro-industrial design.

Aliens: Simple yet extremely effective plot and character development, almost flawless presentation, great Cameron design concepts, suspenseful action scenes. Only gripe for me is the changes in the alien design as well as them being essentially cannon fodder. And the queen's eggsack was too fleshy for my taste.

Alien 3: Wonderful score, grimy set design and environment, very good creature design and execution ( the best since Alien ), dark and oppressive setting. But for me, it just wasn't as memorable as the first two. I really want to love it, but it falls short due to its overambition to be harsh and unforgiving. Hicks and Newt I can bear, but Clemens? And Bishop? A shame....Also the ending was a bit too final, almost like the series was deliberately shut down for no obvious reason.

And as for that hideous fan film Alien: Resurrection, no comment.





Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: That Yellow Alien on Nov 04, 2007, 05:52:30 PM
Alien 3 was supposed to end the Alien series. Then A:R came along...
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: OneThousandEyes on Nov 04, 2007, 07:19:15 PM
Quote from: Yellow Alien on Nov 04, 2007, 05:52:30 PM
Alien 3 was supposed to end the Alien series. Then A:R came along...

The decision to attempt a closure was a mistake, I think. There should always be room left for a continuation. A secret card to play so as to have the option if needed.

OK, I'll do Rez as well....

Alien: Resurrection: Far fetched premise in a feeble attempt at revival of the series, the inclusion of Ellen Ripley for one more go-around was a bleak shadow of past times. Cloning could maybe be viable, but setting the story 200 years into the future? Please. It was always as if they wanted to ruin any possibility of Weyland-Yutani/USCM/Acheron etc. to play a part in the series' future. Shameful.

However, the set design and art direction was at times pretty good, with The Betty slightly reminiscent of the Nostromo-era. Alien design was atrocious at worst ( Newborn ), and unoriginal at best. One can really tell that rational and mediocre minds should never be allowed to interfere with the designs of the one and only HR Giger. All in all, it was shitty and I don't like it.
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: Its Game Time on Nov 07, 2007, 12:15:32 AM
I've said before i'll say it again

Aliens, i just got done watching it last night so its definetly my favorite.
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: vegadivine on Nov 11, 2007, 07:11:44 AM
Aliens by far to me is the greatest of the quadrilogy. The idea of hundreds of those things against a small military force was genius.
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: servant38 on Nov 19, 2007, 01:40:17 PM
1 Aliens
2 Alien 3
3 Alien
4 Alien Resurrection

Just can't stop watching the second one. I also liked the dark atmosphere and music of the third one.
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: aliendude on Nov 19, 2007, 06:21:44 PM
aliens in my opinion.alien resurrection was good until the newborn arrives you get very scared until you see the queen just gave birth to pumpkin head's brother >:(
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: Sprout on Nov 25, 2007, 06:46:21 PM
Either of the first two. If I had to choose I would say the first. Still the most freaky of the all. But the second one always deliveres solid enjoyment.
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: Resurrection on Nov 25, 2007, 08:24:54 PM
I have to go oldschool and say I liked the very first Alien movie.  The dark atmosphere of it really was great for the theme of the Alien and how you never knew if it was going to pop up out of nowhere.  The other three just got worse after the first movie, Aliens was good in all but I liked the more "horror" feel of the first movie, since the last three were more science-fiction orientated. 
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: Crotum on Nov 27, 2007, 06:15:49 PM
Aliens

Alien

Alien 3

AVP

Why, well, aliens is cool, alien is original, alien 3 i kinda dont like, they kill hicks!!!!, avp, it sucked, i like it but i was expecting WAY more.
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: Dr. Wren on Nov 27, 2007, 09:40:47 PM
Quote from: Crotum on Nov 27, 2007, 06:15:49 PM
Aliens

Alien

Alien 3

AVP

Why, well, aliens is cool, alien is original, alien 3 i kinda dont like, they kill hicks!!!!, avp, it sucked, i like it but i was expecting WAY more.

ur missing res.
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: vegadivine on Nov 28, 2007, 12:22:06 AM
Quote from: Xenonewborn on Nov 27, 2007, 09:40:47 PM
Quote from: Crotum on Nov 27, 2007, 06:15:49 PM
Aliens

Alien

Alien 3

AVP

Why, well, aliens is cool, alien is original, alien 3 i kinda dont like, they kill hicks!!!!, avp, it sucked, i like it but i was expecting WAY more.

Res. don't count.  ;D Silly. Lol, jk.
ur missing res.
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: schwa on Nov 28, 2007, 03:39:11 AM
Aliens.  'Nuff said.
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: Purebreedalien on Nov 28, 2007, 01:39:33 PM
Aliens SE, Aliens, Alien DC, Alien, Alien3, Alien3 SE, Alien Ressurection (AR was so bad that I still haven't gotten round to watching the Special Edition and I got the Quadrilogy set in late 2004/early 2005).
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: vegadivine on Nov 29, 2007, 02:06:39 AM
Quote from: purebreedalien on Nov 28, 2007, 01:39:33 PM
Aliens SE, Aliens, Alien DC, Alien, Alien3, Alien3 SE, Alien Ressurection (AR was so bad that I still haven't gotten round to watching the Special Edition and I got the Quadrilogy set in late 2004/early 2005).

I want to say don't bother watching the Special Edition of Res., so I will. It's pretty lame. All you see is some extra crap that I guess was supposed to fill in "some" holes in the movie. Most of it is pointless and it makes sense that it was cut in the first place.
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: Gremlien on Nov 29, 2007, 03:04:26 AM
My favorite is Alien. I honestly rate them like this.

Alien
Alien 3
Aliens
(and way, way down there,) Alien Resurrection

Alien is my all-time favorite of the Alien (solo) films. It's truly the best one out of the bunch, and it works on every level it sets out to work upon. Alien 3 comes next because it is the one sequel that managed to actually feel like an honest-to-God sequel to Alien. Aliens is damn close to Alien 3, but the only thing that brings it back a little bit is that if you basically took out all the Alien aspects of the design and replaced them with random creatures, and took out all references to the first film, it could stand up as it's own movie, totally seperate from the rest of them. In other words, it felt a little more like a film that happened to be about Aliens, rather than an Alien film. A word about Aliens in a moment. Resurrection, well, I don't need to say anything about that. I don't despise it with every inch of my soul, but it's really below the rest of them.

Now, my word about Aliens. I may get a lot of crap for this, but I think Aliens is the most over-rated film of the series, and not only that, but it's strange how over-rated it is when you consider how different it was, and how much it changed. I always laugh when I read people whining about AvPR's little deviations and alterations, yet people cheer for the ones made in Aliens. Why? Because Aliens was only the second film. It was not a franchise yet. No one cared if Cameron literally f**ked with the design of the creatures, or added in things that never existed prior, or turned them all into bugs, and still, no one cares now. It came out during a period where actiony films of it's kind were PRAISED as HOLY, and at that kind of film, it is very successful, and I think that had a part to play. Those kinds of films were in when it came out. Also, the mystery. Where the mystery of the Alien in the first one was very, very high, it was smashed to pieces, and now the only real mystery left to them is what the Space Jockey's are.

Don't get me wrong, Aliens is a great film, and I'm always quick to watch it even if it's only half-way through, but still, I think it gets much more praise than it should.
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: alien 619 on Nov 29, 2007, 09:01:11 AM
well iam new i love aliens

so aliens , alien 3, alien 4 ,lucly last the first

1 put aliens first becuse of hudson he over become his fear and still did his job


alien is last becuse there was onley one alien cheap
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: Daniel on Nov 29, 2007, 11:35:41 PM
Mine is Aliens, though the original is a classic.  ;D I didn't care for Alien 3 largely due to it being a prison movie.  Killing off Newt, Hicks, and Bishop five minutes into the movie didn't help either.  If you're going to tragically kill off these characters, have them survive the escape pod's crash landing and then die later on in the movie.  You can't feel sad for someone who's dead when you first see them in the movie. ::) Alien Resurrection would have been great if the gore, cursing, and sexuallity had been toned down.
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: Kimarhi on Nov 30, 2007, 04:45:11 AM
I would've guessed differently.  Your destroying the rines in the AvP3 thread.
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: I am Mother on Dec 03, 2007, 01:10:25 AM
Imho, Aliens will probably be my favourite movie of all time period!!

However, having bought the Quadrilogy set, I have to say that the extended cut of Alien 3 comes very close to that. I have seen a completely new light on it, and can't understand why it wasn't released that way first time!!
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: Resurrection on Dec 04, 2007, 03:29:02 AM
Quote from: I am Mother on Dec 03, 2007, 01:10:25 AM
Imho, Aliens will probably be my favourite movie of all time period!!

However, having bought the Quadrilogy set, I have to say that the extended cut of Alien 3 comes very close to that. I have seen a completely new light on it, and can't understand why it wasn't released that way first time!!

Dude I have to agree with you there.  The extended version of Alien 3 rules.  So much better than the crappy version that I rented from Blockbuster (not part of the Quadrilogy set, btw..).  I really liked that the Alien burst out of an ox instead of a dog in that version because the dog was someone's pet. .
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: Alan Dutch Schaefer on Dec 04, 2007, 03:49:19 AM
Aliens is hellla badasss! i think id have to put Aliens and Alien in the same category even though Aliens has more action.
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: ~Jarrecko~ on Dec 04, 2007, 04:52:51 AM
Alien 3. The story is intelligent, witty, and has just the right amount of gore. The characters are likeable despite their terrifying backgrounds. Sigourney Weaver is as always fantastic as Ripley. The SPFX do not match Aliens however making it the only downside in my opinion. I dunno, Aliens was average for me. Some of the characters logic didn't make sense all the time which really dogs it down..for instance why do they hire Ripley to help them as an advisor yet they don't listen to a damn thing she says? I found this extremely irritating through the film although I have to praise

Sigourney for another great performance.
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: shadowtiger0906 on Dec 04, 2007, 11:39:16 AM
I like Aliens the most, but it sucks how Newt dies on the next one, after Ripley goes to all the trouble of saving her  :(
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: alien ravager on Dec 04, 2007, 05:11:12 PM
mine is alien, alien ressurection, aliens then alien 3 i like 3 but the other three grab me more and ultimate predator can you help me with my avatar as i am having problems using it
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: I am Mother on Dec 05, 2007, 12:29:48 AM
Quote from: alien ravager on Dec 04, 2007, 05:11:12 PM
mine is alien, alien ressurection, aliens then alien 3 i like 3 but the other three grab me more and ultimate predator can you help me with my avatar as i am having problems using it

Hey dude, I'm not gonna start jerkin around and putting you down for it but I'm just genuinely interested in why you would place Res so high (over Aliens & Alien 3?)
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: Resurrection on Dec 05, 2007, 02:15:17 AM
Quote from: I am Mother on Dec 05, 2007, 12:29:48 AM
Quote from: alien ravager on Dec 04, 2007, 05:11:12 PM
mine is alien, alien ressurection, aliens then alien 3 i like 3 but the other three grab me more and ultimate predator can you help me with my avatar as i am having problems using it

Hey dude, I'm not gonna start jerkin around and putting you down for it but I'm just genuinely interested in why you would place Res so high (over Aliens & Alien 3?)

I'd really like to know as well.  Resurrection wasn't that bad, but the weakest of the series definitely.
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: vegadivine on Dec 05, 2007, 05:32:29 AM
Quote from: Resurrection on Dec 05, 2007, 02:15:17 AM
Quote from: I am Mother on Dec 05, 2007, 12:29:48 AM
Quote from: alien ravager on Dec 04, 2007, 05:11:12 PM
mine is alien, alien ressurection, aliens then alien 3 i like 3 but the other three grab me more and ultimate predator can you help me with my avatar as i am having problems using it

Hey dude, I'm not gonna start jerkin around and putting you down for it but I'm just genuinely interested in why you would place Res so high (over Aliens & Alien 3?)

I'd really like to know as well.  Resurrection wasn't that bad, but the weakest of the series definitely.

I agree completely.
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: alien ravager on Dec 05, 2007, 05:32:36 PM
i dont know it caught my attention more and i like the newbreed alien and the underwater scene was cool
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: Resurrection on Dec 05, 2007, 06:32:56 PM
Quote from: alien ravager on Dec 05, 2007, 05:32:36 PM
i dont know it caught my attention more and i like the newbreed alien and the underwater scene was cool

The underwater scene was one of the coolest in the series.  I liked the scene where the doctor was taunting the Alien behind the glass as well.
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: ~Jarrecko~ on Dec 05, 2007, 08:47:30 PM
Frankly I'm shocked so many people hated Ressurection. I loved it. The story was good, the acting and character development fine, the spfx was fantastic. Overall a much better film than Aliens. ;D
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: Resurrection on Dec 05, 2007, 10:48:50 PM
Quote from: ~Jarrecko~ on Dec 05, 2007, 08:47:30 PM
Frankly I'm shocked so many people hated Ressurection. I loved it. The story was good, the acting and character development fine, the spfx was fantastic. Overall a much better film than Aliens. ;D

Same here really.  I fail to see why everyone hated it.
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: The Cleaner on Dec 06, 2007, 07:30:09 AM
Alien3(For the reasons maledoro stated on the first page)
Alien
Aliens(I like it, but it sacrificed the Alien character itself for the sake of action, which is something I sure as hell didn't like)

I don't even consider A:R.
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: alien ravager on Dec 06, 2007, 05:30:21 PM
i thought the bit with the doctor at the glass was funny after he got scared and the fight with the aliens inside the pen to escape was great
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: Resurrection on Dec 06, 2007, 11:54:15 PM
Quote from: alien ravager on Dec 06, 2007, 05:30:21 PM
i thought the bit with the doctor at the glass was funny after he got scared and the fight with the aliens inside the pen to escape was great

Same here. .
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: EEV-2501 on Dec 09, 2007, 01:58:58 AM
1- Alien 3
2- The 8th Passenger
3- Aliens
4- Resurrection
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: alien ravager on Dec 09, 2007, 10:00:33 AM
what the hell are you on about this is about favourite alien films not other things
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: SiL on Dec 09, 2007, 10:42:55 AM
The 8th Passenger, or Alien: The 8th Passenger, is the English translation of most foreign titles of Alien.
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: alien ravager on Dec 09, 2007, 02:28:00 PM
i didnt know that i thought it was a different film to alien
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: Tarog on Dec 09, 2007, 02:47:39 PM
"Alien: The 8th Passenger" Cool Name, Never heard that before
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: I am Mother on Dec 09, 2007, 03:19:19 PM
Quote from: ~Jarrecko~ on Dec 05, 2007, 08:47:30 PM
Frankly I'm shocked so many people hated Ressurection. I loved it. The story was good, the acting and character development fine, the spfx was fantastic. Overall a much better film than Aliens. ;D
Don't get me wrong, I thought Res was good. But better than Aliens?! Put the pipe down dude lol
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: ~Jarrecko~ on Dec 09, 2007, 06:45:00 PM
Quote from: I am Mother on Dec 09, 2007, 03:19:19 PM
Quote from: ~Jarrecko~ on Dec 05, 2007, 08:47:30 PM
Frankly I'm shocked so many people hated Ressurection. I loved it. The story was good, the acting and character development fine, the spfx was fantastic. Overall a much better film than Aliens. ;D
Don't get me wrong, I thought Res was good. But better than Aliens?! Put the pipe down dude lol
The alien in the first film was much creepier and intense than in Aliens. Aliens was just one big f**king action sequence. The logic didn't make sense such as them hiring Ripley to advise them about the creatures but, they don't listen to anything she says. The special effects were good and sigourney as always is great, that was about all I liked about it. It seemed like cameron was just capitilizing on the notion that americans will like any movie as long as it has big action scenes.
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: Resurrection on Dec 09, 2007, 08:31:46 PM
Quote from: I am Mother on Dec 09, 2007, 03:19:19 PM
Quote from: ~Jarrecko~ on Dec 05, 2007, 08:47:30 PM
Frankly I'm shocked so many people hated Ressurection. I loved it. The story was good, the acting and character development fine, the spfx was fantastic. Overall a much better film than Aliens. ;D
Don't get me wrong, I thought Res was good. But better than Aliens?! Put the pipe down dude lol

lol.  Well, it depends on what type of action movie you like.  Aliens was more combat related and actually more realistic where Resurrection was totally Sci-Fi.
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: D-101 on Dec 09, 2007, 09:31:54 PM
Aliens. It's the  only one I've rewatched more than twice & want on DVD.

1. Aliens
2. Alien

There's  a third & a fourth? I bet they're crapfests.
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: The Chibi Kiriyama on Dec 10, 2007, 12:28:00 AM
Alien3 isn't bad, but it isn't particularly good either. It's best to forget Alien: Resurrection was even made.
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: I am Mother on Dec 10, 2007, 01:13:49 AM
The thing with Aliens is, it was made when CGI wasn't even thought about. CGI plays such a huge part in any film that gets release nowadays that if the effects suck, people won't even watch it!

I have seen Aliens so a hundred times, and every time I see it I don't have to make excuses, (well obviously thats a green screen; that's obviously not real but OK, I suppose it's technically possible (James Bond I'm looking at you!)).

Aliens has to be one of the best films ever made because it didn't rely on that! Cameron managed to make that film so intense that you don't get a chance to breathe until the credits roll, and by the time you try to reflect on it you find yourself back at the cinema for round 2!! And there was not 1 thing in it that I looked at and thought "No way"

Suspention of disbelief is one thing, but it is so much easier when the film do's it for you!
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: Ellen Ripley on Dec 11, 2007, 05:26:40 PM
Aliens had great story and characterization as well as action
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: Resurrection on Dec 11, 2007, 07:19:46 PM
Quote from: Ellen Ripley on Dec 11, 2007, 05:26:40 PM
Aliens had great story and characterization as well as action

I like the characterization as well.
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: Huol on Dec 12, 2007, 10:43:16 AM
Quote from: Ellen Ripley on Dec 11, 2007, 05:26:40 PM
Aliens had great story and characterization as well as action

As did alien 3.


Whats so bad about it?

I prefer it to aliens...



Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: Resurrection on Dec 12, 2007, 09:16:53 PM
Quote from: Huol on Dec 12, 2007, 10:43:16 AM
Quote from: Ellen Ripley on Dec 11, 2007, 05:26:40 PM
Aliens had great story and characterization as well as action

As did alien 3.


Whats so bad about it?

I prefer it to aliens...


I know. . . Honestly I don't like Aliens that much compared to the original and Alien 3. .
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: city hunter on Dec 13, 2007, 01:19:28 AM
                  Alien : Good, Suspenseful, But a lack of action                   Overall : 95%
                 Aliens : Great, Action-packed, Awesome weapons               Overall : 99%
                Alien3 :  Fair, Suspenseful, Gruesome, But a dumb storyline   Overall : 65%
Alien Ressurection : Strange, Better graphics, But wierd                        Overall : 57%
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: I am Mother on Dec 14, 2007, 03:34:25 AM
Quote from: city hunter on Dec 13, 2007, 01:19:28 AM
                  Alien : Good, Suspenseful, But a lack of action                   Overall : 95%
                 Aliens : Great, Action-packed, Awesome weapons               Overall : 99%
                Alien3 :  Fair, Suspenseful, Gruesome, But a dumb storyline   Overall : 65%
Alien Ressurection : Strange, Better graphics, But wierd                        Overall : 57%

The first 2 films were great, but Alien 3 has been under-rated. Watch the assembly cut of the film on the Quadrilogy. It's like a totally different film altogether.

And don't start me on Res lol.
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: Resurrection on Dec 14, 2007, 08:10:49 PM
Quote from: I am Mother on Dec 14, 2007, 03:34:25 AM
Quote from: city hunter on Dec 13, 2007, 01:19:28 AM
                  Alien : Good, Suspenseful, But a lack of action                   Overall : 95%
                 Aliens : Great, Action-packed, Awesome weapons               Overall : 99%
                Alien3 :  Fair, Suspenseful, Gruesome, But a dumb storyline   Overall : 65%
Alien Ressurection : Strange, Better graphics, But wierd                        Overall : 57%

The first 2 films were great, but Alien 3 has been under-rated. Watch the assembly cut of the film on the Quadrilogy. It's like a totally different film altogether.

And don't start me on Res lol.

The storyline is MUCH better in the assembly cut than the original movie.  You should check it out, I bet your opinion on Alien 3 will go up about 30 percent.
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: I am Mother on Dec 14, 2007, 08:15:59 PM
^ Definately. Can't see why it wasn't released that way first time!!
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: WisePredator on Dec 14, 2007, 08:22:41 PM
Alien: 10/10 (After watching it again last month I've come to appreciate it.)
Aliens: 10/10
Alien3: 7/10
Alien Rez: 8/10
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: That Yellow Alien on Dec 14, 2007, 09:41:14 PM
Alien, Aliens, and Alien 3 are all equal to me. All three continue the story, but are completely different movies in terms of style.
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: Resurrection on Dec 15, 2007, 12:58:31 AM
Quote from: Yellow Alien on Dec 14, 2007, 09:41:14 PM
Alien, Aliens, and Alien 3 are all equal to me. All three continue the story, but are completely different movies in terms of style.

Very true.  Do you think Resurrection fits in there?  Personally, I do but I'm also one of the few here who likes it, I think. . .
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: That Yellow Alien on Dec 15, 2007, 01:30:20 AM
I can enjoy A:R, but it is definitely a step down from the trilogy.
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: def on Dec 15, 2007, 04:34:45 PM
well i mean obviously the first would be my favorite i really enjoyed the terror and the paranoia, an element that, sadly, none of the subsequent films really elaborated on going more for guns and gusto. alien 3 is my second fav simply because it's back to one alien having to stalk and attack as opposed to hordes of them charging to their deaths like idiots. also the portrayal of the alien is what matters to me most when watching the films. i was pretty disappointed with how they turned out in avp, aliens and a:r. not to say those are bad movies they all have their ups and their downs but the aliens really turn out to be nothing more than dumb beasts in those particular films. well i suppose i've prattled on long enough so... FISHSTICKS!!!
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: Huol on Dec 16, 2007, 02:31:13 AM
Quote from: The Chibi Kiriyama on Dec 10, 2007, 12:28:00 AM
Alien3 isn't bad, but it isn't particularly good either.

I think alien 3 was fantastic... I don't see anything wrong with it, at least the assembly cut anyway.

It had the best ending of all the movies, with the music, the visuals of the company closing the prison. It was perfect. A perfect closure to a perfect trilogy. Then along comes big fat alien ressurection, ready and waiting to take a giant brown shit on the franchise.
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: def on Dec 16, 2007, 05:55:50 AM
it was an effective endcap of the film series series and i don't mind there being a:r i just think it totally cheapens a3. a3 did have the best alien or at least the most threatening.
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: Resurrection on Dec 16, 2007, 09:51:17 PM
Quote from: def on Dec 16, 2007, 05:55:50 AM
it was an effective endcap of the film series series and i don't mind there being a:r i just think it totally cheapens a3. a3 did have the best alien or at least the most threatening.

Definitely.  The most cruel that is for sure.
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: Alienfan4ever on Dec 22, 2007, 12:10:21 AM
My order is:

Aliens
Alien
Alien Resurrection
Alien3
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: chopperbuilder on Dec 22, 2007, 05:51:42 PM
Hmmm i would say:

Aliens
Alien resu.
Alien
Alien 3
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: Alien³ on Dec 23, 2007, 04:07:14 PM
My personal order would go.

ALIEN 3 (Special Edition)
ALIEN (Director's Cut)
ALIENS (Special Edition)

No 4th film for me I just Pretend it wasn't made, and the series ends with the respectful demise of Ripley.


Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: NikTh on Dec 24, 2007, 01:45:21 AM
In the order they came out...

1st was a downright masterpiece!
2nd not a bad sequel (actually best sequel ever)
3rd apart from story had that dark vibe from the first again.
4th was over the top bad...

Ghehe makes me wonder if I should even hope for a 5th...
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: elialien on Dec 27, 2007, 07:13:42 PM
Probly "aliens" then alien then alien 3 then res. I still think they should make 5 though.
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: Chocolate man! on Dec 28, 2007, 06:33:56 AM
Alien, then Alien 3, then Aliens and then Alien R (which I will say once again, was a great movie, but a medicore alien movie)
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: alien_tattoo on Dec 28, 2007, 02:30:51 PM
My favorite is Alien, then Aliens.

Alien 3 and Alien Resurrection are tied in my list. Some days I like one better than the other.
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: Rafael S. on Jan 02, 2008, 01:53:59 AM
Alien (Director's Cut)

Aliens (Special Edition)

Aliens vs. Predator: Requiem

Those are the only movies I love to Hell.
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: SpreadEagleBeagle on Jan 03, 2008, 07:03:39 PM
1. Alien

2. Alien 3

3. Aliens

4. A:R
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: EPA1337 on Jan 05, 2008, 08:29:11 AM
Aliens followed by Alien. ALien 3 and finally Alien Ressurection.
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: spiegal on Jan 06, 2008, 01:16:09 AM
Hmm i think my order goes
Aliens
Alien and Alien 3 are tied
then we have
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all the way down here Alien 4
because it sickens me. :)
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: Firetnk on Jan 06, 2008, 06:54:42 PM
ALIENS
ALIEN
ALIEN3




ALIEN RES :'(
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: severen76 on Jan 06, 2008, 07:23:54 PM
aliens/alien3
alien
alien res
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: Attack.no1 on Jan 06, 2008, 08:59:38 PM
I dont understand how people like A:R at all its just awful :-X
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: XENOWARRIOR on Jan 07, 2008, 02:21:51 AM
Quote from: The Ultimate Predator on Nov 17, 2006, 11:21:41 PM
Aliens, then Alien, then Alien 3, then Res.

could not have put it better
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: EPA1337 on Jan 07, 2008, 03:56:12 AM
Quote from: Darkness on Nov 18, 2006, 12:43:48 AM
Quote from: The Ultimate Predator on Nov 17, 2006, 11:21:41 PM
Aliens, then Alien, then Alien 3, then Res.

Yeah, that's my order too.

Me three.
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: Pred-Xeno on Jan 08, 2008, 12:06:01 AM
Its very hard to choose between Alien and Aliens but Aliens is slightly better, then the beautiful Alien 3 and last A:R.
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: BlkSoul on Jan 08, 2008, 10:37:33 AM
I like the one with the USM i think its the best one off all.
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: BlkSoul on Jan 09, 2008, 06:52:46 AM
So Aleins is the one with the Ucm? Cant remember correctly!
Oh Alein was good to!
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: Resurrection on Jan 09, 2008, 10:47:07 PM
Quote from: BlkSoul on Jan 09, 2008, 06:52:46 AM
So Aleins is the one with the Ucm? Cant remember correctly!

Yes, Aliens is that movie.

Quote from: avp123 on Jan 09, 2008, 11:17:31 AM
yer i liked the part when the chestburster came out!! :P

One of the best scenes in the series.
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: Commander Aun on Jan 09, 2008, 10:55:06 PM
Quote from: Resurrection on Jan 09, 2008, 10:47:07 PM
Quote from: BlkSoul on Jan 09, 2008, 06:52:46 AM
So Aleins is the one with the Ucm? Cant remember correctly!

Yes, Aliens is that movie.

Quote from: avp123 on Jan 09, 2008, 11:17:31 AM
yer i liked the part when the chestburster came out!! :P

One of the best scenes in the series.

More like the defining scene of the series.
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: BlkSoul on Jan 10, 2008, 09:10:25 AM
I liked the part in aleins where the Sargent takes the Marienes ammo clips and they take out new clips and put it in their rifels.

HE HE Sneaky but wize
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: The G-man on Jan 11, 2008, 05:47:48 PM
Aliens is the best one for me :)

lot of marine-pawning scenes  ;D
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: Kimo on Jan 12, 2008, 12:39:11 AM
When i was a teenager it was defo Aliens but now i pick Alien because of what the creature stands for. So Alien all the way for me.
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: Spidey3121 on Jan 12, 2008, 01:54:32 AM
Alien - 4 out of 4
Aliens - 4 out of 4
Alien 3 - 3 out of 4
AvP - 2 out of 4
A: R - 1.5 out of 4
AvP-R - 1.5 out of 4
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: Alien Drone 531 on Jan 14, 2008, 10:09:53 PM
Alien- 8/10
Aliens- 6/10
Alien 3- 10/10
Alien Resurrection- 7/10
AVP- 6/10
AVPR- 9/10
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: BlkSoul on Jan 15, 2008, 09:30:45 AM
Quote from: Alien Drone 531 on Jan 14, 2008, 10:09:53 PM
Alien- 8/10
Aliens- 6/10
Alien 3- 10/10
Alien Resurrection- 7/10
AVP- 6/10
AVPR- 9/10

nice choice but Aleins is 10/10 for me
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: Fenrir on Jan 15, 2008, 10:56:59 PM
Aliens.
it was cool, a team of solidiers fight a bunch of aliens

Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: BlkSoul on Jan 16, 2008, 09:51:14 AM
Quote from: Fenrir on Jan 15, 2008, 10:56:59 PM
Aliens.
it was cool, a team of solidiers fight a bunch of aliens


I will buy that for a DOLLER
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: Aliens-diner86 on Jan 17, 2008, 10:06:43 PM
Alien is the flawless movie IMO. Aliens is damn close though.
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: Iron Hide on Jan 18, 2008, 09:10:19 PM
ALIENS!!!! That will forever be a masterpiece  ;D
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: MST3Kfan on Jan 19, 2008, 07:16:53 PM
For theatrical versions: Alien

For extended versions: Aliens
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: DoomRulz on Jan 26, 2008, 02:34:12 AM
Aliens was my favourite, hands down. Alien was really good too, but in all honesty, I was bored by it. The only moments I was tense were, obviously, any scene involving the creature. But in other parts of the film, I just kinda sat there twiddling my thumbs.
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: XenoVC on Jan 27, 2008, 07:32:34 AM
Aliens,Indeed
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: DoomRulz on Jan 30, 2008, 05:28:58 PM
On Aliens, did anyone else start laughing at Ripley when she was running away from the Queen?

I'm sitting there watching her go ballistic on the eggs, then she starts running like a scared rabbit, I'm thinking "Well that was stupid."
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: Iron Hide on Jan 30, 2008, 11:01:57 PM
Quote from: DoomRulz on Jan 30, 2008, 05:28:58 PM
On Aliens, did anyone else start laughing at Ripley when she was running away from the Queen?

I'm sitting there watching her go ballistic on the eggs, then she starts running like a scared rabbit, I'm thinking "Well that was stupid."


you wouldn't be running while the place was coming down? did you forget that the reactor was gonna blow or what?
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: DoomRulz on Jan 31, 2008, 01:41:24 AM
Quote from: Iron Hide on Jan 30, 2008, 11:01:57 PM
Quote from: DoomRulz on Jan 30, 2008, 05:28:58 PM
On Aliens, did anyone else start laughing at Ripley when she was running away from the Queen?

I'm sitting there watching her go ballistic on the eggs, then she starts running like a scared rabbit, I'm thinking "Well that was stupid."


you wouldn't be running while the place was coming down? did you forget that the reactor was gonna blow or what?

Of course I would be. But her primary concern at that point seemed to be the Queen more than the plant coming apart.
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: SkacMasta on Jan 31, 2008, 01:22:04 PM
Alien: 12/10(masterpiece)
Aliens: 8/10(awesome action movie)
Alien3: 10/10(its going back to the roots)
A:R: 7/10(Ron Perlman and aliens)
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: Harkus on Feb 01, 2008, 08:49:57 PM
Alien 7/10
Aliens 9/10
Alien 3 10/10
Alien Ressurection 4/10
AVP 3/10

Havent seen avp-r yet
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: Gameoverman!GAMEOVER! on Feb 01, 2008, 11:27:03 PM
Alien: 9/10
Aliens: 10/10
Alien3: 9/10
A: R: 6/10
AvP: 6/10
AvP:R: 7/10
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: Beldy on Feb 04, 2008, 01:06:15 PM
I know this is an alien film post and not predator, but here are my ratings for the whole lot:

Predator: 7.5
Predator 2: 6
AVP: 4
AVP-R: 6.5
Alien: 9.5
Aliens: 10
Alien 3 (spec ed): 7.5
Alien Resurrection: 6
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: Garo Predator on Feb 05, 2008, 02:02:07 AM
ALiens was a 4/5 for me if Vasquez would have lived through it. It would have been 10/5
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: DoomRulz on Feb 05, 2008, 04:43:24 AM
Quote from: Garo Predator on Feb 05, 2008, 02:02:07 AM
ALiens was a 4/5 for me if Vasquez would have lived through it. It would have been 10/5

haha agreed
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: chriso191 on Feb 14, 2008, 02:41:40 PM
aliens definetly best but alien is not far off
alien3 was okay I would have preferred if they hadnt killed off hicks,newt and ripley
it made all the events in aliens a waste
alien res was just terrible
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: DoomRulz on Feb 14, 2008, 03:40:14 PM
Why does everyone hate A:R so much? I never understood it much. Maybe it's b/c I saw it first.
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: Garo Predator on Feb 15, 2008, 01:00:34 AM
Quote from: DoomRulz on Feb 14, 2008, 03:40:14 PM
Why does everyone hate A:R so much? I never understood it much. Maybe it's b/c I saw it first.

Thats my second favorite next to aliens
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: ZNorMorph on Feb 27, 2008, 03:39:57 AM
Aliens
Alien Resurrection
Alien 3
Alien

Aliens is awesome!!! I laughed at the part when Ripley was in the Exo-Suit (when she was trying to save Newt) and yelled at the Alien Queen saying: "Get away from her you BI**CH!!!"
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: Newsfop on Feb 27, 2008, 03:43:26 AM
^That could very easily be the best line ever spoken in film history. It's far superior to anything that Humphrey Bogart or Orson Welles could ever utter.
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: ravager032 on Mar 03, 2008, 11:07:17 PM
Aliens, I just can't get enough of it, I watch it almost week.  Hated alien 3, too boring. >:(
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: Secret Hero on Mar 07, 2008, 08:45:52 PM
My favorite Alien movie is Aliens, cause it has action and has full of surprises!
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: Salt The Fries on Mar 07, 2008, 08:49:24 PM
Well, without a shadow of a doubt - Alien, closely followed by Aliens and then Alien3. Alien Resurrection didn't live up to franchise expectations, but if you look from outside franchise - it was decent. It had some potential that wasn't fully translated. Shame that such a great director as Jean Pierre Jeunet didn't do his best.
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: AvPvTerminator on Mar 16, 2008, 05:48:20 PM
Aliens, then extremely closely followed by Alien, then Ressurection, then Alien 3.
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: Tyler on Mar 17, 2008, 09:22:24 AM
yea i definitly have to say its Aliens. best actors, best film directors, best action, best everything.
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: Hellspawn28 on Mar 18, 2008, 04:34:49 PM
Quote from: DoomRulz on Feb 14, 2008, 03:40:14 PM
Why does everyone hate A:R so much? I never understood it much. Maybe it's b/c I saw it first.

The idea of cloning was rip off of JP and the movie was borning.
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: Huol on Mar 25, 2008, 08:18:02 PM
Quote from: ravager032 on Mar 03, 2008, 11:07:17 PM
Aliens, I just can't get enough of it, I watch it almost week.  Hated alien 3, too boring. >:(

Quote from: Secret Hero on Mar 07, 2008, 08:45:52 PM
My favorite Alien movie is Aliens, cause it has action and has full of surprises!

Jesus christ. Get out.


I'm sorry but it really tickles my arsehole when someones only reason for liking a movie is "IT HAZ ACTIONZ AND BLUDS AND EXPLOSIONZ ALIEN 3 WUZ BORING BECOZ DEY KILLD HIX ND NOOT BAWWWW"
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: Hellspawn28 on Mar 31, 2008, 02:12:21 AM
The point of Alien 3 was to make it more like the First Alien movie.
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: Alienseseses on Mar 31, 2008, 03:04:35 AM
My new opinion:
Alien 3 Assembly.
Followed by:
Alien
Aliens
AVP-R
AR
AVP
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: the egg on Apr 02, 2008, 07:54:54 AM
Aliens is the best- it has an emotional center which Alien can only convey in its incredible tin- can desolation. Last time I watched Aliens and Ripley went back into and down to the bottom of the atmosphere procesor = Hell, it brought me to honest tears. I mean, look, she witnessed all the terrors- bitten heads, impregnated men, women, children, and nevertheless she goes back? Thats so great, and tragic. I think repeated viewing and Weavers modelling over the time as an action heroine tend to overshadow the fact that she does NOT have fun descending again- it is in fact her worst nightmare. Also a work of incredible timing: The drop ship release, the watching through the screens of the marines demise, and when in the nest, it is Exactly the point when you just cant bear it any longer when Ripley finally finds Newt. I mean, Ripley herself is almost f**ked there. Great: that the final countdown takes exactly the time announced by the female computer voice. So, ALIENS for sure. Its just the perfect movie. And increddibly futuristic for 1986!
Alien is certainly the scariest, but it is in many ways just too sick to be liked that much. (Kane- ripped open (man, did you see the long version of the birth scene?), Brett- Who KNOWS, Dallas- Who WANTS to KNOW, Ash- well f**k him, Parker- slaughtered, Lambert- raped to death. Its just that unknown quality which makes Alien the most psychhologically damaging.
Alien 3- I liked it back in 1993, when it was new. I like the Assembly Cut, But it does this terrible screenwritiung (the beginning- how lame is to kill them all off? I hate them for this!), and it has no emotional center, it has Ripley who is empty in this. Its just way to nihilistic. But the style of it was promising. But Alien 3 was speciqal back then and still is better than most movies from the 90s. Just not as bad as anybody wants it to be.
Alien Res- Well, this is not exactly an Alien movie. It beasrs the title- but it is the mindchild of an director who is known for his phantastic and grotesque films- and Alien 4 is more playful than all otheres, which does not mean its automatically good. In fact, in respect to thrills, Alien 4 is somewhat shitty. And the newborn is still the stupidest thing ever imagined. Please, for the future, dont embrce this B- Movie qualities agien, this was just too cheap and it certainly is not what audiences want to see.
Aliens- Alien- Alien 3-               Alien 4
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: gameoverman on Apr 02, 2008, 08:09:38 AM
Alien 3 wasn't nihilistic - Ripley had to make the hardest choice ever:  fulfill her dream of family and happiness or sacrifice herself and destroy the xenomorphs, saving humanity (and humanity is not portrayed in the best light up to that point).

IMO Alien Resurrection is the most nihilistic - most of the characters have no morals and Ripley is more interested in an android than humans.
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: Scarface Predator on Apr 02, 2008, 09:03:46 PM
Alien
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: Ghost Rider on Apr 02, 2008, 11:17:11 PM
Aliens. ;D
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: Demosthenes on Apr 02, 2008, 11:29:05 PM
Aliens
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: Hellspawn28 on Apr 03, 2008, 05:05:45 PM
Alien will always be my favourite. The viusals and horror feel that movie has is amazing. The artwork in the movie is amazing and Alien is a mind blowing me IMO. Way better then Star Wars IMO.

Alien 10/10
Aliens 9.5/10
Alien 3 8/10
Alien Ressurection 4/10
AVP 5/10
AVPR 7/10
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: DoomRulz on Apr 03, 2008, 07:32:45 PM
Quote from: Ratchetcomand on Apr 03, 2008, 05:05:45 PM
Alien will always be my favourite. The viusals and horror feel that movie has is amazing. The artwork in the movie is amazing and Alien is a mind blowing me IMO. Way better then Star Wars IMO.

I'll 2nd that, Star Wars just a special FXs ride to me.
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: Hellspawn28 on Apr 04, 2008, 01:49:39 PM
Quote from: DoomRulz on Apr 03, 2008, 07:32:45 PM
Quote from: Ratchetcomand on Apr 03, 2008, 05:05:45 PM
Alien will always be my favourite. The viusals and horror feel that movie has is amazing. The artwork in the movie is amazing and Alien is a mind blowing me IMO. Way better then Star Wars IMO.

I'll 2nd that, Star Wars just a special FXs ride to me.

Alien has a better story then Star Wars does. Star Wars is great and all but the story get old .
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: fearless freak on Apr 07, 2008, 09:06:12 PM
Aliens, i can actually relate to Hudson a little bit
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: Hunter-Slayer on Apr 15, 2008, 12:09:51 AM
All in all I liked Alien 3 the best. There's something about it that just stuck with me. I know I'm gonna get some hate for this but yeah. Alien 3 ftw
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: Ron Perlman fan on Apr 17, 2008, 07:12:01 PM
my order went ressurection then aliens then A3 then alien i found alien kinda boring i dont know why though. i enjoyed the others!
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: DoomRulz on Apr 17, 2008, 08:10:10 PM
Alien is definitely slow moving. You need a lot of patience for it.
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: Alienseseses on Apr 17, 2008, 09:47:04 PM
One of the great things about Alien was that it intentionally stayed away from flashy spaceships and lasers.

By AR, that was gone.
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: Hellspawn28 on Apr 17, 2008, 09:56:30 PM
Alien was slow but that made it so good.
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: TheHunter on Apr 18, 2008, 02:34:04 PM
My favourite Alien movies
Aliens,Alien 3,Alien,Alien Resurection in that order
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: AVPVT Extinction on Apr 18, 2008, 08:50:09 PM
My favorite aliens movies in order.

Aliens, Alien 3, Alien: Ressurection, then Alien
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: Le Celticant on Apr 19, 2008, 09:58:20 AM
Alien, Aliens, Alien3, Alien: Resurrection in this order.
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: colonial-marines on Apr 20, 2008, 02:06:26 AM
without a doubt aliens
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: knoxjr on Apr 21, 2008, 06:52:38 PM
Aliens then Alien then A3 and..........what was the last one called,, oh yeah--el crapo
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: Its Game Time on Apr 21, 2008, 08:14:51 PM
Quote from: TheHunter on Apr 18, 2008, 02:34:04 PM
My favourite Alien movies
Aliens,Alien 3,Alien,Alien Resurection in that order

Exactly my list, except, resurection is not on the list.
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: AvPvTerminator on Apr 24, 2008, 12:59:46 AM
New list:

Aliens
Alien
Alien3/Alien: Ressurection













And then about down here, other movies come onto my list. Just because Alien: res is low on my list doesn't mean I don't think its a good movie. Get what I'm sayin?
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: Rafael S. on Apr 26, 2008, 02:30:57 AM
Quote from: AVPVT Extinction on Apr 18, 2008, 08:50:09 PM
My favorite aliens movies in order.

Aliens, Alien 3, Alien: Ressurection, then Alien

Why? :(
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: Harkus on Apr 28, 2008, 07:46:06 PM
Alien 3 has always been my favourite.
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: Xenomorph on May 01, 2008, 12:13:29 AM
Aliens, Alien, Alien 3, Alien Ressurection.

Mostly everbody hates Alien Ressurection, I thought it was ok.
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: Shasvre on May 02, 2008, 06:10:16 AM
Alien 3, Aliens, Alien: Resurrection, Alien

While many dislike or even hate Alien 3, I absolutely love it. The acting and the feeling of the movie is just perfect, and I love the rusty look of it. Memorable characters and a different alien also makes this movie the Nr. 1 on my list.
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: XENOMORPH ALIENS on May 08, 2008, 02:43:33 AM
Aliens the best movie of all time i've seen that movie so many times and i just think that james cameron brought us fans the ultimate movie of all time. i love all 4 of the alien movies but aliens takes it all the way.  ;D ;D ;D

this is the order of how the alien movies are with me. Aliens, Alien, Alien 3, Alien Resurrection. the quadrilogy order would be Aliens again, Alien 3, Alien because the director's cut some scenes were shorten from the orginal verison and also the addition scenes were shorten thats why Alien of the quadrilogy list is at number 3 spot and Alien Resurrection.
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: PredatorX on May 12, 2008, 06:22:16 PM
aliens definatly because of the queen and because its not quite as slow as one or 3 and res is pretty creepy with the physchotic ripley.
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: Amaymyon666 on Jun 08, 2008, 06:46:00 PM
Seriously I would put them in order of release... ALL the films got good things to them.. Alien for its creepy atomosphere ALIENS for the Queen, Alien 3 for its sick gothic style and Alien:res for the GORE.... not to menton ripley was somewhat crazy in it..
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: Harkus on Jun 09, 2008, 08:37:35 PM
Quote from: Xenomorph on May 01, 2008, 12:13:29 AM
Aliens, Alien, Alien 3, Alien Ressurection.

Mostly everbody hates Alien Ressurection, I thought it was ok.

lol. Mostly everybody hates Alien resurrection, mostly. That's what I thought when I saw this post anyway.
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: roguetrader on Jun 24, 2008, 04:01:48 AM
#1: Alien is what I consider to be one of those rare, perfect movies.  Yes it's slow, but it's not an action flick.  It's  a horror movie with very real characters, high tension and the srangest, scariest monster in any film.

#2: Aliens.  An awesome action flick with plenty of tension and great characters. Although I prefer Alien over this one, I watch this one more than any of them.

#3: Alien 3 (the assembly cut).  When I saw this cut for the first time I was floored by how much better the movie became and in my opinion it needed it.  It's now VERY good.

#4: Alien: Resurrection.  I hate this movie.  What a stark contrast to the original.  In this movie the aliens have effectively been reduced to comic relief.  There's no tension whatsoever.  Who cares if THIS main cast is killed off anyway?  Sure there are funny moments between them but when you don't really care who gets picked off next, well,  it's not a good sign. Plus the new alien design introduced is crap.  It goes from a bio-mechanical being to a fleshy, always-drenched-in-slime raptor... thing. 
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: Dekapitator on Jun 24, 2008, 08:58:28 AM
Alien, followed closely by Alien3.
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: Technine on Jun 24, 2008, 09:42:44 AM
aliens by far
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: fishing567 on Jun 25, 2008, 07:17:45 PM
my favourite alien movie is aliens
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: Reborn on Jun 25, 2008, 07:42:59 PM
 Here we go:
                 I like all three movies of the trilogy equally. They form a great story, and really are just three chapters of one big movie. They have great creatures, great effects, and are overall the best movies I've ever seen in my life. And they were designed by the Great Stan winston.

................Wait, there's a fourth movie?
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: Scree on Jun 25, 2008, 07:52:40 PM
Quote from: Storyteller on Jun 25, 2008, 07:42:59 PM
Here we go:
                 I like all three movies of the trilogy equally. They form a great story, and really are just three chapters of one big movie. They have great creatures, great effects, and are overall the best movies I've ever seen in my life. And they were designed by the Great Stan winston.

................Wait, there's a fourth movie?
Yup. Alien Resurrection. Awesome movie. The latest and therefore most important chapter in the Alien Saga.
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: Reborn on Jun 25, 2008, 08:15:17 PM
 :(I was being sarcastic. Im trying to forget!!!!!!! :(
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: roguetrader on Jun 25, 2008, 09:39:52 PM
Quote from: Scree on Jun 25, 2008, 07:52:40 PM
Yup. Alien Resurrection. Awesome movie. The latest and therefore most important chapter in the Alien Saga.

To each their own but... "awesome", and "the most important chapter" are hardly things I would use to describe this A:R. 




Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: Harkus on Jun 26, 2008, 11:01:42 AM
A:R is entertaining but compared to the first three films it falls flat on it's face and gets curb-stomped.
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: Undeadite on Jun 27, 2008, 03:19:50 AM
If A:R would have been word for word the novelization (which could possibly mean the screenplay but I cannot say for sure because I have not read it) then you would think it much better.
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: Technine on Jul 02, 2008, 06:55:47 AM
A:R was a let down to the aliens series
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: joey44 on Jul 04, 2008, 05:08:20 PM
Aliens 10/10

Alien 10/10

Alien Resurrection 8/10

Alien 3 6/10

AVP 5/10

AVP R 2/10
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: Bob on Jul 10, 2008, 08:54:25 AM
Quote from: maledoro on Dec 13, 2006, 12:31:40 PM
I liked the dark, eerie beauty of the movie. The bleak hopelessness that underlies the notion that nothing is certain and that one shouldn't expect a "Hollywood ending".

Aliens has been called a "roller coaster ride of a movie". In a way, the third movie was as well, but instead of rising into the air, the "ride" takes you underground, where one can almost see the "dark Satanic Mills" that Blake had written about.

Sure, one sees what one searches for, but there was a greater opportunity in Alien³ for one to find all kinds of metaphor, as it didn't rely on convention as Aliens had. There were all kinds of symbolism to be found in Alien³, especially Gnostic and alchemical. If there is any religious symbolism to be found, it's not the kind taught in Sunday School in little black books and pastel-colored paperbacks. It is more likely to be found in the writings of Böhme and the paintings of Bosch.

(https://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fv338%2Fmaledoro%2FElves%2Fwink.gif&hash=d798d6ae4a389eee348751af55cf24a738272582)

That's interesting.  What kind of Gnostic symbolism is in A3?
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: stroggificated on Jul 10, 2008, 09:19:51 PM
1. Alien

2. Alien 3

3. Aliens

4. Alien Resurrection

It's close on 2nd and 3rd place. The idea for A:R wasn't bad but the movie script was (and Winona. I hate her. No, im only joking ;)).
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: SpaceJockey on Jul 13, 2008, 03:39:16 AM
Aliens when ripley fights the queen in the fork lift suit or wut ever its called is my favorite scene from the Alien series.

Alien it has a quality i cant put my finger on this sense of horror but still greatly entertaining

Alien 3 it would have been a great movie to end the series but of course they always have to go to far which brings me to

Alien Resurrection major let down. From The bad script to the bad acting to walmart buying out the company.  ill just stop there :-X
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: gameoverman on Jul 13, 2008, 03:52:08 AM
I love them all.  But it goes for me:

1.  Alien - masterpiece, classic, timeless..

2.  Aliens - great sequel, thrilling action sequences, great technical achievement

3.  Alien 3 - awesome cinematography, acting, score, mood, Sigourney is brilliant

4.  Alien Resurrection - great visuals, off beat style, quirky characters, the only thing is it so different in tone to the other movies.
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: Lilywhite_Lilith on Jul 23, 2008, 11:06:47 PM
It's a toss up between Alien and Alien3, but for this poll I voted for Alien3 as I, rightfully, assumed more people would have already voted for Alien :)
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: Spidey3121 on Jul 25, 2008, 02:54:23 AM
I'm really surprised @ what a runaway victory "Aliens" has with this poll
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: xenomorph426 on Jul 26, 2008, 05:06:18 AM
for me it just happend to be the actual order of the series i love alien cause its the origanal and aliens is a driffernt feeling but was aslo one of the best chapters of ripleys life and aliens 3 brought us alien fans back to the original feeling of the first film and resserection was just liek another chapter just had a really differnt feeling it reminds me more of deep bue sea than any of the alien films as feeling wise
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: DoomRulz on Jul 26, 2008, 02:59:04 PM
Quote from: Spidey3121 on Jul 25, 2008, 02:54:23 AM
I'm really surprised @ what a runaway victory "Aliens" has with this poll

Why? It's considered by many to be the best of the series.
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: Private Hudson on Aug 05, 2008, 12:55:12 AM
Alien - 10/10

Aliens - 10/10

Alien 3 - 9/10

Alien Resurrection - 8.5/10
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: SpreadEagleBeagle on Aug 11, 2008, 05:45:34 PM
1. Alien

2. Alien 3

3. Aliens

4. A:R


...Even though the gap between Alien and Alien 3 is getting narrower for every time I watch Alien 3 .
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: Manula on Aug 11, 2008, 06:40:09 PM
Aliens-my Favourite Movie... :)
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: scarface on Aug 13, 2008, 03:49:24 AM
Alien - Not only is it one of the greatest movies of all time, but it has consistantly been on the top 100 horror list, mainly at number 2 being it's position. It was also on Bravo's top 100 scariest horror moments, losing (it got 2nd scariest moment ever) to Jaws.

Aliens - I said in a previous thread that I though this was one of the most overrated movies of all time, I said that out of anger, and boy was I wrong. One of the few movies on RT to have a 100% approval rating!

Alien - Kinda lost my love for it, I still like it, but it's not my favorite.

Alien: Resurrection - I really don't know why people hate the design of the aliens in this movie, I though they were the creepiest with all of the excess slime. Anything after the water scene sucked in my opinion.

Alien - 10/10

Aliens - 10/10

Alien 3 - 7.5

Alien: Resurrection - 3/10

If you have noticed, I have changed the ratings than on another thread, I actually spent all Saturday watching all of the movies, and that's how this happened.

Favorite scenes.

Alien - The entire last scene with the drone.

Aliens - The first encounter

Alien 3 - Second encounter

Alien: Resurrection - When two Warriors kill another Warrior.
Title: Me
Post by: username64 on Aug 16, 2008, 12:55:21 AM
For Me It's
1.Alien
2.Alien Resurrection
3.Aliens
4.Alien3
I Didn't Like Aliens That Much
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: DoomRulz on Aug 16, 2008, 03:39:12 PM
How come?
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: username64 on Aug 17, 2008, 05:32:26 PM
you don't see the aliens untill an hour or so into the movie .
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: Private Hudson on Aug 17, 2008, 07:27:47 PM
So you didn't care about the story? You just cared about the violence and death?
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: DoomRulz on Aug 17, 2008, 10:27:58 PM
Quote from: username64 on Aug 17, 2008, 05:32:26 PM
you don't see the aliens untill an hour or so into the movie .

Yet you rated Alien as your number one.
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: username64 on Aug 18, 2008, 10:36:04 PM
Let Me Refrase my comment , i ment the aliens have let screen time than the others . The Queen fight scene was Pretty Kick ass though
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: AvPvTerminator on Aug 19, 2008, 05:08:01 AM
Switched my vote from Aliens to Alien after rewatching the two.
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: privatehudson1000 on Aug 22, 2008, 02:01:40 PM
Aliens without a doubt! just a superb film and my all time favriot film,alien was excellent,alien 3 was good the assembly version was a lot better and alien resurrection was very good
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: Parler on Aug 27, 2008, 02:08:33 PM
Alien 3 = Dog Alien = win.
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: DoomRulz on Aug 27, 2008, 06:37:36 PM
I'll see how much I enjoy after I watch Alien 3 SE this Friday. I saw the theatrical version a few days ago and thought it was pretty bad.
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: Harkus on Aug 27, 2008, 07:24:00 PM
The SE of Alien 3 is awesome, you won't be dissapointed.
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: Parler on Aug 28, 2008, 10:43:11 PM
Yup, the SE is much better than the normal version.
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: DoomRulz on Aug 28, 2008, 10:47:44 PM
I watched the SE last night, and it ok. Definitely better than the theatrical version that's for sure but still a pointless sequel.
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: SpreadEagleBeagle on Sep 03, 2008, 06:01:06 PM
Quote from: DoomRulz on Aug 28, 2008, 10:47:44 PM
I watched the SE last night, and it ok. Definitely better than the theatrical version that's for sure but still a pointless sequel.

In what way is it 'pointless'?
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: DoomRulz on Sep 04, 2008, 12:45:42 AM
Coz Aliens effectively killed off the alien species with the death of the Queen. A3 spat on that and said "Ah, wait!!! THERE'S OOOOONNNNNNNNEEEEEEEEEE MORE EGG!!!!"
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: SiL on Sep 04, 2008, 01:41:11 AM
At least it provided closure for the story.

And this is prolly just me, but I think death would be preferable to whatever f**ked up life Newt could be expected to have after Aliens.
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: The Demon on Sep 04, 2008, 01:47:56 AM
Aliens
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: DoomRulz on Sep 04, 2008, 04:21:13 AM
Quote from: SiL on Sep 04, 2008, 01:41:11 AM
At least it provided closure for the story.

And this is prolly just me, but I think death would be preferable to whatever f**ked up life Newt could be expected to have after Aliens.

Aliens was all the closure I needed. And as for Newt's fate, I just assumed that she, along with the others, went on happily ever after. Works for me.
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: SpreadEagleBeagle on Sep 04, 2008, 09:12:53 PM
Quote from: DoomRulz on Sep 04, 2008, 04:21:13 AM
Quote from: SiL on Sep 04, 2008, 01:41:11 AM
At least it provided closure for the story.

And this is prolly just me, but I think death would be preferable to whatever f**ked up life Newt could be expected to have after Aliens.

Aliens was all the closure I needed. And as for Newt's fate, I just assumed that she, along with the others, went on happily ever after. Works for me.

"Aliens" had a boring Hollywood ending (I really hate the Power loader vs. Queen fight, so moronic and 'unrealistic') that totally ruined everything that was great about "Alien" and the second third of "Aliens".

"Alien 3" on the other hand had the perfect ending for a Trilogy - "Alien 3" is what makes the Alien series 'epic'. The circle is completed. The end itself is melancholic, dark and beautiful, just like the beginning of the first "Alien" movie. Ripley's sacrifice is heroic but not in a bombastic Hollywood kind of way... No one will know of her sacrifice of trying to save the human race, which by the way already is doomed (because humanism is dead in the future of Aliens -  a feature which is even more apparent in "Alien 3" than any of the other Alien movies). Her sacrifice works on so many different levels... it's complex, just like everything in or surrounding "Alien 3".


On top of that "Alien 3" is not a re-hash of "Alien", like "Aliens"...
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: DoomRulz on Sep 04, 2008, 10:50:58 PM
Quote from: SpreadEagleBeagle on Sep 04, 2008, 09:12:53 PM
On top of that "Alien 3" is not a re-hash of "Alien", like "Aliens"...

Oh no, Alien 3 is most definitely a re-hash of Alien. It's the same idea, only with a different setting and more people.
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: Huol on Sep 05, 2008, 08:47:46 AM
I get so damn tired of people saying that...

Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: SpreadEagleBeagle on Sep 05, 2008, 07:24:00 PM
Quote from: DoomRulz on Sep 04, 2008, 10:50:58 PM
Quote from: SpreadEagleBeagle on Sep 04, 2008, 09:12:53 PM
On top of that "Alien 3" is not a re-hash of "Alien", like "Aliens"...

Oh no, Alien 3 is most definitely a re-hash of Alien. It's the same idea, only with a different setting and more people.

"Alien 3" a re-hash of "Alien"!?! Whaaaa? In what way? Please specify!


"Aliens" on the other hand follows the exact same line of events as in "Alien" but with more people, aliens, guns and explosions:

1. Alien: Waking up from the cryotubes. Aliens: Waking up from the cryotube.

2. Alien: SOS signal received (Asheron/LV46 - origin unknown). Aliens: SOS signal received (Asheron/LV46 - human colony).

3. Alien: Investigating alien derelict. Aliens: Investigating 'abandoned' human colony.

4. Alien: 'Saving' Kane (bringing him back Kane to the ship). Aliens:  'Saving' Newt.

5. Alien: Chestbuster (Kane's son) & and the death of Brett. Aliens: Chestburster ("Kill me...Kill me!") & the death of the marines.

6. Alien: Emergency meeting. Aliens: Emergency meeting.

7: Alien: Ash's betrayal. Aliens: Burke's betrayal.

8: Alien: Alien ambushes and kills Parker & Lambert. Aliens: Aliens ambush and kill Vasquez, Gorman, Hudson and Burke.

9: Alien: Ripley saves Jones (da kat) after torching the nest (The Egg-morphing scene). Aliens: Ripley saves Newt after messing up the Queen's lair.

10: Alien: Nostromo explodes, Ripley & Jomes escape. Aliens: Human colony explodes, Ripley & Co escape.

11: Alien: Ripley (wearing a space suit) fights the Alien and then gets rid of it by flushing it out > Alien floating around in space (before getting scorched). Aliens: Ripley (maneuvering a robotic power loader) fights the Queen and then gets rid of it by flushing it out > Queen floating around in space.

12: Alien: Ripley & Jones lying down in cryotube to sleep. Alies: Ripley & Co lying down in cryoubes to sleep.

::)
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: EEV2650 on Oct 13, 2008, 11:09:46 AM
my order is:

1. ALIENS
2. ALIEN 3
3. ALIEN
4. ALIEN: RESURRECTION
5. AVP
6. AVPR
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: Carnal Calligraphy on Oct 22, 2008, 09:57:08 AM
1. ALIEN
2. ALIEN 3
3. ALIENS, I guess.
4. ALIEN: R
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: somanymods on Nov 02, 2008, 07:28:21 PM
just picked up the quadrilogy off ebay, i still forming my opinions on Alien 3 and A:R.

if i had to go purely on first impression i'd say

Aliens
Alien
A:R
Alien 3

resurrection was a terrible movie in some ways but I enjoyed it more then alien 3.  alien 3 is like an incomplete art project and after the first 2 movies which tried so hard to stay consistent with the rules of the aliens, alien 3 just decided they would make up 2 eggs that couldn't possibly exist based on the events of aliens.  in the special edition ripley washes up on the beach after the escape pod hits the ocean like a meteor just so david fincher could change the story they way he wanted to and then never even really finished it.

A:R doesn't fit into the series at all, but being a fan of joss whedon and ron pearlman, i liked it better then 3 even though it isn't really part of the series. 

Alien was done better then Aliens, but again was not as enjoyable.  Seemed like so much more work went into aliens.
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: SiL on Nov 02, 2008, 08:50:31 PM
Quote from: somanymods on Nov 02, 2008, 07:28:21 PM
just so david fincher could change the story they way he wanted to and then never even really finished it.
Not only did Fincher not write Alien 3, he never had a hand in the special edition, either.
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: Weasel on Nov 04, 2008, 01:00:07 AM
Aliens
Alien
Alien 3
Alien Resurrection

Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: Vakarian on Nov 04, 2008, 01:22:56 PM
Alien And Aliens
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: DoomRulz on Nov 04, 2008, 01:56:40 PM
Quote from: SiL on Nov 02, 2008, 08:50:31 PM
Quote from: somanymods on Nov 02, 2008, 07:28:21 PM
just so david fincher could change the story they way he wanted to and then never even really finished it.
Not only did Fincher not write Alien 3, he never had a hand in the special edition, either.

I think of Fincher as an anonymous 3rd party involved in Alien 3 only b/c he was brought in at the last minute and doesn't seem to want to be associated with it in any form.
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: Alien³ on Nov 04, 2008, 08:34:47 PM
My opinion on people who rate A:R above A3 is wake up and smell the coffee. Watch Alien 3 assembly cut and tell me its not AWESOME! The story, sets, music, acting even the old school effects make it cool.
A:R was awful. There was no fear factor the aliens were not scary at all.

As people have probably guessed on this site I really despise A:R. More than anything its the story they chose to take that pissed me off. They could have made a decent film if it didn't contain Ripley 8 or anything to do with her.   
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: BodySnatcher on Nov 04, 2008, 09:41:28 PM
Quote from: Alien3 on Nov 04, 2008, 08:34:47 PM
My opinion on people who rate A:R above A3 is wake up and smell the coffee. Watch Alien 3 assembly cut and tell me its not AWESOME! The story, sets, music, acting even the old school effects make it cool.
A:R was awful. There was no fear factor the aliens were not scary at all.

As people have probably guessed on this site I really despise A:R. More than anything its the story they chose to take that pissed me off. They could have made a decent film if it didn't contain Ripley 8 or anything to do with her.   

Why assembly cut?

The theatrical is true to the original and creepy as hell!

F**k Hicks!

F**k Newt!

It's a solid entry to the series and A:R wishes it was in the same league as Alien3!
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: Alien³ on Nov 04, 2008, 09:54:20 PM
Quote from: KanesSon on Nov 04, 2008, 09:41:28 PM
Quote from: Alien3 on Nov 04, 2008, 08:34:47 PM
My opinion on people who rate A:R above A3 is wake up and smell the coffee. Watch Alien 3 assembly cut and tell me its not AWESOME! The story, sets, music, acting even the old school effects make it cool.
A:R was awful. There was no fear factor the aliens were not scary at all.

As people have probably guessed on this site I really despise A:R. More than anything its the story they chose to take that pissed me off. They could have made a decent film if it didn't contain Ripley 8 or anything to do with her.   


Why assembly cut?

The theatrical is true to the original and creepy as hell!

F**k Hicks!

F**k Newt!

It's a solid entry to the series and A:R wishes it was in the same league as Alien3!


Assembly cut is longer and more epic. Builds a lot more on the original.
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: gameoverman on Nov 04, 2008, 09:54:41 PM
Quote from: KanesSon on Nov 04, 2008, 09:41:28 PM

It's a solid entry to the series and A:R wishes it was in the same league as Alien3!


The same league?  It's a totally different movie.  Don't let your hate blind you.  They were never meant to be compared.
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: BodySnatcher on Nov 04, 2008, 10:14:05 PM
Quote from: gameoverman on Nov 04, 2008, 09:54:41 PM
Quote from: KanesSon on Nov 04, 2008, 09:41:28 PM

It's a solid entry to the series and A:R wishes it was in the same league as Alien3!


The same league?  It's a totally different movie.  Don't let your hate blind you.  They were never meant to be compared.

It's just... I get... so frustrated!
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: DoomRulz on Nov 04, 2008, 10:47:00 PM
Alien Resurrection sucked. A3 is Alien when compared to it.
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: Deckard on Nov 07, 2008, 03:49:44 AM
1. Alien
2. Aliens
3. Alien 3

I don't like A:R or any of the AVPs myself, so I just choose to ignore them the same way I ignore Kingdom of the Crystal Skull or Blues Brothers 2000.
Title: Re: Favoustrite Alien Movie?
Post by: joeisdaman190 on Jan 02, 2009, 03:55:25 AM
aliens (best movie ever)
alien
alien3
alien res
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: Nyktimos on Jan 12, 2009, 03:29:33 PM
Alien and Aliens

Can't choose between them.  Two different but excellent movies.

Alien 3

Liked it at the cinema, but it really came to life for me when I saw the Assembly Cut.  The story makes more sense, the characters feel more real, and it has a great mixture of epic and claustrophobic scenes.

Alien:Resurrection

A pointless addition to the series, but I suppose an enjoyable piece of scifi action.  I still watch it from time to time
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: The_Undertaker on Jan 14, 2009, 02:07:42 PM
My favourite Alien of all time has to be Alien 3. Both Aliens and Alien: Resurrection were great movies but not that great than what Alien 3 delivers. Don't get me wrong, but the first Alien movie was kinda crappish. :-\
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: Nyktimos on Jan 14, 2009, 03:55:57 PM
Quote from: The_Undertaker on Jan 14, 2009, 02:07:42 PM
My favourite Alien of all time has to be Alien 3. Both Aliens and Alien: Resurrection were great movies but not that great than what Alien 3 delivers. Don't get me wrong, but the first Alien movie was kinda crappish. :-\

Seems that way now, doesn't it?  Alien was a monster-picking-off-group-of-people-one-by-one b-movie of the type that had been made for decades, but done with bags more style and a body-horror theme.  As truly alien as the creature seemed when I first saw it, it now just looks like a guy in a scary suit.  But the film is about much more than that, and it says much more than that.  Off the back of the space opera Star Wars, this dark view of the future worked well.
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: DoomRulz on Jan 14, 2009, 04:30:39 PM
Quote from: The_Undertaker on Jan 14, 2009, 02:07:42 PM
My favourite Alien of all time has to be Alien 3. Both Aliens and Alien: Resurrection were great movies but not that great than what Alien 3 delivers. Don't get me wrong, but the first Alien movie was kinda crappish. :-\

Alien was kinda crappish? I've gotta hear the explanation on this one.
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: The_Undertaker on Jan 14, 2009, 04:50:17 PM
Quote from: DoomRulz on Jan 14, 2009, 04:30:39 PM
Quote from: The_Undertaker on Jan 14, 2009, 02:07:42 PM
My favourite Alien of all time has to be Alien 3. Both Aliens and Alien: Resurrection were great movies but not that great than what Alien 3 delivers. Don't get me wrong, but the first Alien movie was kinda crappish. :-\

Alien was kinda crappish? I've gotta hear the explanation on this one.
Well homes it goes something like this, the entire movie was neither scary or suspense. I mean, it was boring and tireless through the entire movie. Don't get wrong, but the Alien creature from that movie is either fake or looks like a man inside of a suit. :-\
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: DoomRulz on Jan 14, 2009, 05:48:08 PM
Quote from: The_Undertaker on Jan 14, 2009, 04:50:17 PM
Quote from: DoomRulz on Jan 14, 2009, 04:30:39 PM
Quote from: The_Undertaker on Jan 14, 2009, 02:07:42 PM
My favourite Alien of all time has to be Alien 3. Both Aliens and Alien: Resurrection were great movies but not that great than what Alien 3 delivers. Don't get me wrong, but the first Alien movie was kinda crappish. :-\

Alien was kinda crappish? I've gotta hear the explanation on this one.
Well homes it goes something like this, the entire movie was neither scary or suspense. I mean, it was boring and tireless through the entire movie. Don't get wrong, but the Alien creature from that movie is either fake or looks like a man inside of a suit. :-\

Say whaaaaaa, you must have nerves of steel coz that made me jump at least 6 or 7 times.
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: Nyktimos on Jan 14, 2009, 05:51:00 PM
Quote from: The_Undertaker on Jan 14, 2009, 04:50:17 PM
Well homes it goes something like this, the entire movie was neither scary or suspense. I mean, it was boring and tireless through the entire movie. Don't get wrong, but the Alien creature from that movie is either fake or looks like a man inside of a suit. :-\

That slow build up isn't common in today's movies.  And, again, the creature doesn't look that good by today's standards.  But when I was a kid, it scared the life out of me!  The alien was plenty real enough then.  But times move on.  I love watching Alien, but some aspects of it don't hit the mark as well as they did when I was twelve.  But trust me, it terrified people.  After all, zombie movies terrified people then, and they're still making them with very little real difference.
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: The_Undertaker on Jan 14, 2009, 10:21:27 PM
Quote from: DoomRulz on Jan 14, 2009, 05:48:08 PM
Quote from: The_Undertaker on Jan 14, 2009, 04:50:17 PM
Quote from: DoomRulz on Jan 14, 2009, 04:30:39 PM
Quote from: The_Undertaker on Jan 14, 2009, 02:07:42 PM
My favourite Alien of all time has to be Alien 3. Both Aliens and Alien: Resurrection were great movies but not that great than what Alien 3 delivers. Don't get me wrong, but the first Alien movie was kinda crappish. :-\

Alien was kinda crappish? I've gotta hear the explanation on this one.
Well homes it goes something like this, the entire movie was neither scary or suspense. I mean, it was boring and tireless through the entire movie. Don't get wrong, but the Alien creature from that movie is either fake or looks like a man inside of a suit. :-\

Say whaaaaaa, you must have nerves of steel coz that made me jump at least 6 or 7 times.
Yes I do ;D

Quote from: Nyktimos on Jan 14, 2009, 05:51:00 PM
Quote from: The_Undertaker on Jan 14, 2009, 04:50:17 PM
Well homes it goes something like this, the entire movie was neither scary or suspense. I mean, it was boring and tireless through the entire movie. Don't get wrong, but the Alien creature from that movie is either fake or looks like a man inside of a suit. :-\

That slow build up isn't common in today's movies.  And, again, the creature doesn't look that good by today's standards.  But when I was a kid, it scared the life out of me!  The alien was plenty real enough then.  But times move on.  I love watching Alien, but some aspects of it don't hit the mark as well as they did when I was twelve.  But trust me, it terrified people.  After all, zombie movies terrified people then, and they're still making them with very little real difference.
I know it terrified people back then, but you have to admit it was boring.
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: DoomRulz on Jan 14, 2009, 11:15:29 PM
I didn't find it boring. If anything I like it b/c the pacing was top-notch. Kept me on my tos.
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: gameoverman on Jan 14, 2009, 11:29:59 PM
Quote from: Nyktimos on Jan 14, 2009, 05:51:00 PM
And, again, the creature doesn't look that good by today's standards. 

I disagree.
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: Nyktimos on Jan 15, 2009, 12:45:55 PM
Quote from: The_Undertaker on Jan 14, 2009, 10:21:27 PMI know it terrified people back then, but you have to admit it was boring.

I pretty much still get high on the build up.  I leave that movie feeling like I've been on a journey; a rare thing nowadays.
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: DoomRulz on Jan 15, 2009, 05:06:47 PM
Agreed. Films these days are too riddled with cliches for me to enjoy most.
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: J-Syxx on Jan 18, 2009, 04:46:16 AM
Wow who let the Rob Zombie fan into the forum?  Criticizing Alien on anything is madness.  I watched it a few weeks ago and even the special effects still hold up as making me believe this is space and the future.

Seriously, if you didn't like Alien just give up on horror all together.  The film is in a class by itself.  The only horror movies as good I could think of would have to be something like Suspiria or Inferno by Dario Argento.  But even those don't create the same type of gothic, claustraphobic atmosphere that Alien presents.
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: AVPVT Extinction on Jan 19, 2009, 03:47:41 AM
My favorite Alien has to be Aliens or Alien 3 but I have to choice.... Alien 3 because it was cooler 8)
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: Hyperdyne on Jan 24, 2009, 01:41:43 AM
Quote from: The_Undertaker on Jan 14, 2009, 10:21:27 PM

I know it terrified people back then, but you have to admit it was boring.
[/quote]

well, if instead of carefully built realism and pace that slowly builds tension and sense of danger and calustrophobia you prefer large Boom boom, CGI, hot cicks, boobs and blood everywhere, then no offense but I think youre either very young or dont take movies as an art form. Alien is timeless because of the way its constructed. Movies that are made today will be horribly dated in the future, even more so than the 80's cheese. Alien can be done today and its still a amsterpiece relaying on human psychology instead of mindless FX and blood that kiddos like so much. Im not attacking you or anything, just saying that the only people I ve heard saying that Alien was boring were young teens or so called, "teeny boppers"
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: Nyktimos on Jan 24, 2009, 02:21:22 PM
Quote from: The_Undertaker on Jan 14, 2009, 02:07:42 PM
Don't get me wrong, but the first Alien movie was kinda crappish. :-\

Seems to be a minority view!  There's nothing wrong with that.  It just means you're wrong! ;)
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: DoomRulz on Jan 24, 2009, 05:20:49 PM
How can an opinion be wrong?
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: Hyperdyne on Jan 24, 2009, 06:12:33 PM
Quote from: DoomRulz on Jan 24, 2009, 05:20:49 PM
How can an opinion be wrong?

If it contradicts the fact. Opinions are opinions, bt facts are facts. Alien has a 97% approval on RottenTomatoes, webiste reviewed OnLy by professional critics from HeraldTribunes, ChicagoTimes etc.
The reviews arent about "oh, that was cool I liked it". They take into consideration the structure, camera angles, editing, vibe and how the plot evolves. 97% is just unbelievable, and there are very few movies with such high rating.

One might not like it, but it's still a great movie. For example, I don;t like Godfather, but I DO acknowledge that it IS a masterpiece and one of the greatest movies ever done.
Alien isn't for everybody, it's only for thinking adults. If someone thinks it's boring, than it means that the psychological aspect didn't get to him. That means he prefers fast pace and explosions, just like little kids who can't sit still. Alien is a movie for thoughts and based purely on thinking and tension

Again, you might hate it, but it doesn't change the fact it is a masterpiece and one of the greatest horror movies ever done.

there is a difference between qualified opinion and an opinion. If a friend says to me  - you probably have some ear infection, by yourself some vixine or something than I'll take it with a grain of salt, but if a Doctor says 'you have an ear infection caused by this and that in advanced stage. Take nurodex twice a day with water etc" than thats a qualified, educated opinion. And in this case doctors=critics, just like the masses, diagnosed Alien as a carefully thought out masterpiece
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: Nyktimos on Jan 25, 2009, 04:47:15 PM
Quote from: Hyperdyne on Jan 24, 2009, 06:12:33 PM
Quote from: DoomRulz on Jan 24, 2009, 05:20:49 PM
How can an opinion be wrong?

If it contradicts the fact. Opinions are opinions, bt facts are facts. Alien has a 97% approval on RottenTomatoes, webiste reviewed OnLy by professional critics from HeraldTribunes, ChicagoTimes etc.
The reviews arent about "oh, that was cool I liked it". They take into consideration the structure, camera angles, editing, vibe and how the plot evolves. 97% is just unbelievable, and there are very few movies with such high rating.

One might not like it, but it's still a great movie. For example, I don;t like Godfather, but I DO acknowledge that it IS a masterpiece and one of the greatest movies ever done.
Alien isn't for everybody, it's only for thinking adults. If someone thinks it's boring, than it means that the psychological aspect didn't get to him. That means he prefers fast pace and explosions, just like little kids who can't sit still. Alien is a movie for thoughts and based purely on thinking and tension

Again, you might hate it, but it doesn't change the fact it is a masterpiece and one of the greatest horror movies ever done.

there is a difference between qualified opinion and an opinion. If a friend says to me  - you probably have some ear infection, by yourself some vixine or something than I'll take it with a grain of salt, but if a Doctor says 'you have an ear infection caused by this and that in advanced stage. Take nurodex twice a day with water etc" than thats a qualified, educated opinion. And in this case doctors=critics, just like the masses, diagnosed Alien as a carefully thought out masterpiece

Plus, I was just having a lark!  I don't really think anyone's opinion is wrong.
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: The Lizard King on Jan 25, 2009, 09:04:49 PM
Well, i really like Aliens but Alien had that creepy intensity and even the subtle terror of the chestburster is so friggin awesome!!!!!!!!!!! ;D
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: DoomRulz on Jan 26, 2009, 01:50:14 AM
The buildup was pretty cool; Hurt knows how to have a convincing convulsion ;D
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: fonzi on Feb 01, 2009, 10:05:57 AM
Aliens
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: PredAlienProductions on Feb 02, 2009, 02:59:07 PM
Aliens
Alien3
Alien




Alien Resurrection
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: Predator King on Feb 05, 2009, 02:14:49 PM
My favourite is Aliens.
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: Shadow Hunter on Feb 08, 2009, 07:24:03 PM
Aliens
Alien Resurection
Alien
Alien 3
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: Nightmare Asylum on Feb 22, 2009, 08:11:40 PM
Alien, but I also love Aliens.
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: Alien³ on Feb 23, 2009, 09:00:45 PM
Do I even need to say? Oh okay it's Alien 3 (AC)
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: Deadmeat on Feb 28, 2009, 11:29:31 AM
Aliens, then Alien, then Alien 3, then Alien Ressusection.

DEATH TO RESSURECTION!!!! >:(
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: Deadmeat on Feb 28, 2009, 11:30:11 AM
Sorry I said that, but Ressurection SUCKED!
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: Darwinsgirl on Feb 28, 2009, 04:04:44 PM

Absolutely...."Alien" ;D
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: Vulhala on Feb 28, 2009, 04:24:09 PM
It's still Aliens for me. Watched it again last night for the 1000th time, and I still saw something I had never noticed before   ;D
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: Alien³ on Mar 02, 2009, 05:23:55 PM
Quote from: Vulhala on Feb 28, 2009, 04:24:09 PM
It's still Aliens for me. Watched it again last night for the 1000th time, and I still saw something I had never noticed before   ;D

What was it?
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: Vulhala on Mar 03, 2009, 02:22:18 PM
Quote from: Alien3 on Mar 02, 2009, 05:23:55 PM
Quote from: Vulhala on Feb 28, 2009, 04:24:09 PM
It's still Aliens for me. Watched it again last night for the 1000th time, and I still saw something I had never noticed before   ;D

What was it?

In the specal edition, during the scene where you see Hadleys Hope for the first time and the 6-wheel tractor moves across the camera, in the background down an alley you can see two guys adjusting a tarpaulin. I never realised they were there, and it gave me great respect for Camerons skills, as the forced perspective was just flawless.   :D
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: Darwinsgirl on Mar 03, 2009, 06:27:30 PM
   ^^^^

Its the same for me...I watched the Directors cut of Alien 3 recently.

The scene where they're dragging "Babe" the Ox in and to the right & up high are cages

with live chickens in them...never noticed them before :D
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: Vulhala on Mar 03, 2009, 06:29:03 PM
Quote from: Darwinsgirl on Mar 03, 2009, 06:27:30 PM
   ^^^^

Its the same for me...I watched the Directors cut of Alien 3 recently.

The scene where they're dragging "Babe" the Ox in and to the right & up high are cages

with live chickens in them...never noticed them before :D


Me neither!! Well, I guess I know what I'm gonna be watching tonight then   :o :o
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: Alien³ on Mar 03, 2009, 06:46:08 PM
Quote from: Darwinsgirl on Mar 03, 2009, 06:27:30 PM
   ^^^^

Its the same for me...I watched the Directors cut of Alien 3 recently.

The scene where they're dragging "Babe" the Ox in and to the right & up high are cages

with live chickens in them...never noticed them before :D

I thought there was a close up of these when the scene starts? Pretty obvious.
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: Darwinsgirl on Mar 03, 2009, 10:03:14 PM
Quote from: Alien3 on Mar 03, 2009, 06:46:08 PM

I thought there was a close up of these when the scene starts? Pretty obvious.

A fowl over sight on my part :D
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: Pvt. Hicks on Mar 06, 2009, 02:00:45 AM
I always have major trouble deciding between Alien and Aliens! Always! Although my dad has no problem; Alien through and through. ;D He enjoys them all though.
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: WolfPredator89 on Mar 06, 2009, 04:33:23 AM
Aliens... then Alien.. alien 3 i am not so sure about res but it comes next to alien 3...
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: gameoverman on Mar 06, 2009, 11:29:22 AM
For science fiction - Alien, followed closely by Aliens

For horror - Alien, followed by Alien 3...

For dark comedy - Alien Resurrection, it's greatest strength in relation to the other movies.

But overall, ALIEN kicks all kinds of ass.
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: philsaw101134 on Mar 13, 2009, 05:03:28 AM
Alien, then

Aliens/Alien 3, then

Alien Ressurection.


Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: Deadmeat on Mar 18, 2009, 01:28:06 PM
If I ever said that ALIEN RESSURECTION was in a higher place than ALIEN 3, I take my words back.
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: Colinmarcus on Mar 28, 2009, 09:37:20 PM
Aliens, Alien
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: Private W Hudson on Mar 29, 2009, 06:18:19 PM
Alien 3, Aliens, Alien Res, Alien
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: philsaw101134 on Apr 04, 2009, 07:14:00 PM
Here's a more final descision....

Alien/ Aliens/ Alien3
Alien Ressurection

But I vote Alien3 casuse it's underrated imo.
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: Deadmeat on Apr 05, 2009, 03:02:34 PM
Yeah...

I used to not like it but then I saw it again. And again. And again. And again. And again. And again. And again. And again. And again.......

Oh my head hurts...
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: DoomRulz on Apr 05, 2009, 05:18:45 PM
I didn't like A3 the first time I watched it. I watched the theatrical version first, then for comparison's sake, I watched the AC after. The AC was far better and made the film feel more complete.
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: Deadmeat on Apr 05, 2009, 05:33:56 PM
I saw the theatrelic cut. I hated it, but, again:

I saw it again. And again. And again. And again. And again. And again. And again. And again. And again.......

I learned to love it.
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: philsaw101134 on Apr 05, 2009, 05:38:18 PM
Quote from: DoomRulz on Apr 05, 2009, 05:18:45 PM
I didn't like A3 the first time I watched it. I watched the theatrical version first, then for comparison's sake, I watched the AC after. The AC was far better and made the film feel more complete.
Yeah, it's overall a better film, but there were some things that just worked better in the T-Cut. In my opinion anyways.
-I wish they kept the Dog Burster instead.... the dog seemed more innocent than a dead ox, and made more of an impact when the Chestburster came out.
-I also wish they kept Dillon's inspiring speech line "The only question is how you check out" the way it was. In the AC he gave two "The only question is", and it felt badly edited together.
-As far as the damaged audio goes, some of it wasn't all that important, so I wish they kept the original opening and dialouge that was subtitled the way it was in the T-Cut.
-One biggie: I wish Ripley's chestburster came out when she falls into the furnace in the A-Cut. Having her just fall imo ruined that sense of a ticking time bomb that I felt the T-Cut held so well.

But hey, that's just me.  :)


I love both versions of A3, and would agree that A:R, even though I enjoy it, is the worst of the four.
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: Deadmeat on Apr 05, 2009, 05:42:31 PM
QuoteOne biggie: I wish Ripley's chestburster came out when she falls into the furnace in the A-Cut. Having her just fall imo ruined that sense of a ticking time bomb that I felt the T-Cut held so well.

I soooooooooooooooooooooooooooo agree with you!
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: Awgustas on Apr 06, 2009, 06:32:31 PM
Aliens
Alien 3
A:R
Alien
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: Kestor on Apr 08, 2009, 04:57:48 PM
The original Alien movie. You can't beat a classic for me.
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: Deadmeat on Apr 08, 2009, 06:47:27 PM
AL()ENS all the way.
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: AliensA:R-Fan on Apr 10, 2009, 10:43:50 PM
Aliens
Alien:Resurrection
Alien 3-There's something about that last scene that I love, not in a morbid kind of way.
Alien
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: Lone Warrior on Apr 19, 2009, 08:25:18 PM
Quote from: AliensA:R-Fan on Apr 10, 2009, 10:43:50 PM
Aliens
Alien:Resurrection <----
Alien 3-There's something about that last scene that I love, not in a morbid kind of way.
Alien <----


WHAT!

I'm not getting into another that movie is crap argument, but what I would like to know is why?
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: philsaw101134 on Apr 19, 2009, 08:55:37 PM
Quote from: Lone Warrior on Apr 19, 2009, 08:25:18 PM
Quote from: AliensA:R-Fan on Apr 10, 2009, 10:43:50 PM
Aliens
Alien:Resurrection <----
Alien 3-There's something about that last scene that I love, not in a morbid kind of way.
Alien <----


WHAT!

I'm not getting into another that movie is crap argument, but what I would like to know is why?

Though I disagree with him too,
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Opinion
:P
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: Deadmeat on Apr 20, 2009, 07:09:12 PM
Quote from: philsaw101134 on Apr 19, 2009, 08:55:37 PM
Quote from: Lone Warrior on Apr 19, 2009, 08:25:18 PM
Quote from: AliensA:R-Fan on Apr 10, 2009, 10:43:50 PM
Aliens
Alien:Resurrection <----
Alien 3-There's something about that last scene that I love, not in a morbid kind of way.
Alien <----


WHAT!

I'm not getting into another that movie is crap argument, but what I would like to know is why?

Though I disagree with him too,
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Opinion
:P

lol ;D

Why did you even put it on? ;)
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: xeno_alpha_07 on Apr 20, 2009, 07:12:18 PM
QuoteThough I disagree with him too,
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Opinion

Sorry bud couldnt resist this  ;D :D

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Disagreement
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: philsaw101134 on Apr 21, 2009, 12:30:51 AM
Quote from: xeno_alpha_07 on Apr 20, 2009, 07:12:18 PM
QuoteThough I disagree with him too,
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Opinion

Sorry bud couldnt resist this  ;D :D

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Disagreement
lol
Touché.
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: Deadmeat on Apr 21, 2009, 06:16:13 PM
Quote from: philsaw101134 on Apr 21, 2009, 12:30:51 AM
Quote from: xeno_alpha_07 on Apr 20, 2009, 07:12:18 PM
QuoteThough I disagree with him too,
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Opinion

Sorry bud couldnt resist this  ;D :D

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Disagreement
lol
Touché.

AW MAN! lol  ;D


This is gold... ;D


Alien ressurection is starting to crawl into my mind. The ship was great, but the story - sucked.
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: philsaw101134 on Apr 22, 2009, 01:24:14 AM
A:R still has some great moments, like the underwater sequence, when the Aliens escape, Elgyn's death, and when Ripley 8 discovers and destroys all of the clones. Sigourney did a fantastic job with that scene.

The story is not that great at all compared to the other films, but still makes for a good popcorn flick, and still a pretty good sci-fi film. In my opinion of course.
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: WolfMaster 95 on Apr 22, 2009, 04:35:34 AM
Aliens
Alien
Alien Resurrection
Alien 3
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: Mr. Stizout on Apr 24, 2009, 03:22:11 AM
Aliens Extended Edition
Alien
Alien Resurrection
Alien 3
Alien versus Predator Requiem (I liked seeing the alien's acid melt through that one dumb kid the pawn shop and the Army NG scene, but that main character bitch should have died!)
Alien versus Predator (Scar Predator being pussy whipped killed the movie)
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: TyrellCorp on Apr 26, 2009, 11:45:18 PM
My first posting her goes to praise the original 1979 ALIEN; it is a film that is perfect in every which way; the story, the Giger design (and other designs as well), the horrors, Ash's android inhumanity, the list is long.

I don't disagree too much on Alien3 either. The closing shots of the prison being sealed shut is greatness.
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: philsaw101134 on Apr 27, 2009, 04:17:08 AM
Quote from: TyrellCorp on Apr 26, 2009, 11:45:18 PM

I don't disagree too much on Alien3 either. The closing shots of the prison being sealed shut is greatness.
And to top it off with Eliot Goldenthal's amazing music score made it all the better. :)
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: DoomRulz on Apr 27, 2009, 08:24:26 PM
If I remember correctly in the theatrical version, the chestburster emerges from Ripley as she's falling in. I hated that only because it seemed like it was forced in there. Ripley's about to die, so who cares if it emerges or not?
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: Undeadite on Apr 27, 2009, 08:56:14 PM
Yes, that is in the theatrical cut, but I dont think it felt rushed. It isnt just that it bursts out, but Ripley holds it to her chest so it cant try and escape somehow. I always thought it was a very powerful image, and the symbolism of the mother holding her young generally creeps me out.
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: DoomRulz on Apr 27, 2009, 09:07:59 PM
I didn't see any imagery there. If anything, she should've tossed it into the fire on the way down considering how much she hated it.
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: Undeadite on Apr 27, 2009, 09:16:19 PM
Well if she is already dead, it might as well be as theatrical as possible.  :P
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: philsaw101134 on Apr 27, 2009, 10:47:35 PM
Quote from: DoomRulz on Apr 27, 2009, 09:07:59 PM
I didn't see any imagery there. If anything, she should've tossed it into the fire on the way down considering how much she hated it.
lol
of course. That would have made the ending 10000x better.
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: DoomRulz on Apr 27, 2009, 11:09:37 PM
Quote from: Undeadite on Apr 27, 2009, 09:16:19 PM
Well if she is already dead, it might as well be as theatrical as possible.  :P

Haha, well, I just thought it was pointless. I was happy seeing Ripley just fall in, knowing the Alien was there. Honestly, you can watch the burster come out and have a neon sign telling the audience "POINT AND LAUGH!!!!"
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: Undeadite on Apr 28, 2009, 05:11:40 AM
I changed my vote to Alien. I just watched it for like the hundredth time and never once thought 'oh what a cool suit', but 'god damn now THAT is an alien!'.
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: DoomRulz on Apr 28, 2009, 05:18:03 AM
Make sure you keep a theatre seat warm for May 5th dude, 30th Anniversary of Alien ;D
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: SM on Apr 28, 2009, 05:29:28 AM
QuoteIf I remember correctly in the theatrical version, the chestburster emerges from Ripley as she's falling in. I hated that only because it seemed like it was forced in there. Ripley's about to die, so who cares if it emerges or not?

It was forced in there.  Giler wanted it to burst on the gantry.  Fincher didn't want it to burst at all.  The TC ending is a compromise and a payoff.  You can't through the whole movie with Ripley carrying an Alien not to get to see it burst out.

It didn't quite tie in with Fincher's idea of 'sacrifice', but it's better than Giler's ending ("Janitor service").

The TC ending is visually poetic, the way Ripley embraces the Queen as she falls.  The AC ending with her maintaining the JC pose all the way down was too over the top.

Mind you I would've loved to see the Ward ending where she just walks into the fire at the end.
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: Undeadite on Apr 28, 2009, 05:35:08 AM
Quote from: DoomRulz on Apr 28, 2009, 05:18:03 AM
Make sure you keep a theatre seat warm for May 5th dude, 30th Anniversary of Alien ;D

Wow, 30 friggin years. I wish I could see it in theaters, Ive only had the pleasure of seeing A:R during its original run, and Aliens in a festival.

Quote from: SM on Apr 28, 2009, 05:29:28 AM
The TC ending is visually poetic, the way Ripley embraces the Queen as she falls.  The AC ending with her maintaining the JC pose all the way down was too over the top.

Definitely agree with you on that one.
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: DoomRulz on Apr 28, 2009, 05:43:49 AM
Quote from: SM on Apr 28, 2009, 05:29:28 AM
It was forced in there.  Giler wanted it to burst on the gantry.  Fincher didn't want it to burst at all.  The TC ending is a compromise and a payoff.  You can't through the whole movie with Ripley carrying an Alien not to get to see it burst out.

It didn't quite tie in with Fincher's idea of 'sacrifice', but it's better than Giler's ending ("Janitor service").

The TC ending is visually poetic, the way Ripley embraces the Queen as she falls.  The AC ending with her maintaining the JC pose all the way down was too over the top.

Mind you I would've loved to see the Ward ending where she just walks into the fire at the end.

Eh...poetry or not, the feeling to me just seemed like "Ah well, what the hell, the Alien's in her, so let's show it anyway even though now it has no impact on the story".
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: SM on Apr 28, 2009, 05:50:46 AM
It has an impact on the way the story is told.  And it is a major contrast to previous burstings, that have been loud nasty hurty affairs.  This one is almost peaceful.
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: DoomRulz on Apr 28, 2009, 05:55:15 AM
I prefer the no-bursting version though because I prefer subtlety. I always remembered the Alien was inside her, so I know it's going to burned along with her. That's poetic enough for me because I know that in sacrificing herself, Ripley is also taking with her the last piece of her never ending nightmare.
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: SM on Apr 28, 2009, 06:08:51 AM
Which is exatly what happens in the theatrical cut.

And I don't find Ripley falling all the way into the lead with an image that screams SEE WHAT I DID THERE?? exactly subtle.
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: JamesCameronOnline on May 07, 2009, 11:14:47 PM
Well, for me its Alien tied with Aliens. I cant decide which one. One day I prefer the first one, another the second. Love A3 as well
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: Deadmeat on May 12, 2009, 01:36:53 PM
Quote from: JamesCameronOnline on May 07, 2009, 11:14:47 PM
Well, for me its Alien tied with Aliens. I cant decide which one. One day I prefer the first one, another the second. Love A3 as well

Actually it depends on your mood. If you want horror, then Alien. If you want action, then Aliens.

Am I right?
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: Nachtfalke on May 18, 2009, 06:25:58 AM
Quote from: deadmeat on May 12, 2009, 01:36:53 PM
Actually it depends on your mood. If you want horror, then Alien. If you want action, then Aliens.

Am I right?

You are right. I never want to have to chose the 'best' out of 'Alien' or 'Aliens' and I get in all sorts of trouble when I tell people that they are of different styles. "They are just films about an alien..." - no, they are not just films about an alien...
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: DoomRulz on May 18, 2009, 06:45:19 AM
Yes they are. Alien was a basic haunted house tale set in space, with a never-before seen creature and more sexual themes underlying it than your average Giger piece of artwork. Aliens was a generic sci-fi action film with big production values.
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: SM on May 18, 2009, 06:57:46 AM
It looked like it had big production values because Cameron's visual and technical ability.  The budget wasn't that big.
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: DoomRulz on May 18, 2009, 02:28:35 PM
Ok. But my point is that at the end of the day, it was a generic, albeit shiny, sci-fi film.
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: Deadmeat on May 18, 2009, 05:43:12 PM
Sci-fi horror film.
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: DoomRulz on May 18, 2009, 10:51:24 PM
Aliens wasn't horror to me. It was sci-fi action.
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: SM on May 19, 2009, 12:21:27 AM
Shit popping out of peoples chests falls into the realm of horror.
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: Pvt. Hicks on May 19, 2009, 12:28:00 AM
Quote from: DoomRulz on May 18, 2009, 02:28:35 PM
Ok. But my point is that at the end of the day, it was a generic, albeit shiny, sci-fi film.

Aliens is a generic sci-fi movie? I'd like to know what you think is a non-generic sci-fi film then.

And yes. Aliens is a mixture of genres. It's Science Fiction, Action, and Horror. You can mix and match those with any Alien or Predator flick.
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: DoomRulz on May 19, 2009, 12:42:12 AM
Quote from: SM on May 19, 2009, 12:21:27 AM
Shit popping out of peoples chests falls into the realm of horror.

That happened once.
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: JamesCameronOnline on May 19, 2009, 12:46:34 AM
Time magazine thought its horror

(https://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.jamescamerononline.com%2Falienmag16.jpg&hash=5149c94aabeda69e13583dff1eed0721ff4ad086)
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: Pvt. Hicks on May 19, 2009, 12:53:54 AM
Quote from: DoomRulz on May 19, 2009, 12:42:12 AM
That happened once.

What the f*ck would you consider Poltergeist? A romantic comedy? No one died in that movie, so it is not a Horror film?
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: DoomRulz on May 19, 2009, 01:24:26 AM
I was referring to the single chestburster scene in Aliens.
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: SM on May 19, 2009, 03:33:08 AM
QuoteThat happened once.

Same as Alien then.
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: DoomRulz on May 19, 2009, 07:08:18 AM
Alien had more more horror moments in it, i.e. Kane's Son popping up by surprise in shuttle, cornering Ripley before she drops Jonesy, and confronting Lambert and Parker. Aliens had, IMO, one true horror moment when Hicks sees the Aliens crawling in the ceiling.
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: SM on May 19, 2009, 11:39:13 PM
I suppose if one feels the need to pigeon hole films into a single genre.
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: JamesCameronOnline on May 20, 2009, 12:29:52 AM
Quote from: DoomRulz on May 19, 2009, 07:08:18 AM
Alien had more more horror moments in it, i.e. Kane's Son popping up by surprise in shuttle, cornering Ripley before she drops Jonesy, and confronting Lambert and Parker. Aliens had, IMO, one true horror moment when Hicks sees the Aliens crawling in the ceiling.

Same kind of scenes you can find in Aliens :
Kane's Son popping up by surprise in shuttle - Bishop getting impaled by the tale: both sudden and unexpected turns towards the end after you thought its all over, both relying on sudden scare and temporary confusion

cornering Ripley before she drops Jonesy - Queen closing in on Ripley and Newt in the elevator: same idea, and it was done puprosely to mirror that scene. Alien/Queen cuts off the way for Ripley by appearing from around the corner

and confronting Lambert and Parker  - thats simply a confrontation with alien. Ful of scare and tension, but you had plenty of that in Aliens, and little heightened by the sound of the motion trackers
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: DoomRulz on May 20, 2009, 04:19:17 PM
Quote from: JamesCameronOnline on May 20, 2009, 12:29:52 AM
Same kind of scenes you can find in Aliens :
Kane's Son popping up by surprise in shuttle - Bishop getting impaled by the tale: both sudden and unexpected turns towards the end after you thought its all over, both relying on sudden scare and temporary confusion

Not entirely because we see the acid fall to the ground in the scene with Bishop which makes the audience go "Uh oh..." and we know what's coming.
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: SM on May 20, 2009, 11:44:28 PM
No we don't.  We don't get time to go "Uh oh".
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: DoomRulz on May 21, 2009, 12:49:26 AM
It raises eyebrows at least. My point is that you know something bad is about to happen.
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: SiL on May 21, 2009, 02:44:38 AM
And Kane spluttering was ... ?

Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: DoomRulz on May 21, 2009, 02:25:18 PM
Did I say it wasn't?
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: Hart on May 21, 2009, 03:38:54 PM
I love Aliens to bits and it's my favourite sci-fi horror/action but I could never put it above the original. All of you should be ashamed.
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: The Demon on May 21, 2009, 04:05:13 PM
What I don't get is how it says on here everyone loves it over Alien but people talk about how Aliens took a shit on the creature compared to the original and things like that... yet it is the forums favorite. Really? That's confusing.
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: DoomRulz on May 21, 2009, 07:23:25 PM
There's only a handful of folks around here who think that, myself and SiL being the only two I can immediately think of.
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: Nachtfalke on May 22, 2009, 07:55:13 AM
Quote from: The Demon on May 21, 2009, 04:05:13 PM
What I don't get is how it says on here everyone loves it over Alien but people talk about how Aliens took a shit on the creature compared to the original and things like that...

Did I say that? I never said that!  ;)
'ALIEN' is a great sci-fi horror film, but as an action genre fan, I chose 'Aliens'. I think the creature is well executed in both films.
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: predator55 on May 27, 2009, 08:08:00 AM
Hmmmmm tough between every alien film hahahaha ummm aliens i would think!
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: xenomorph-426 on Jun 05, 2009, 03:01:49 PM




my favourite alien movies would be Alien and Aliens
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: SpreadEagleBeagle on Jun 05, 2009, 09:14:55 PM
1: Alien and Alien 3
2: Aliens
3: A:R
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: crazygoji on Jun 14, 2009, 11:51:32 PM
Aliens.
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: Lone Wolf on Jun 15, 2009, 07:39:40 PM
As many other here, I consider Aliens to be the magnum opus of the Alien franchise.
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: SpreadEagleBeagle on Jun 15, 2009, 07:42:16 PM
Quote from: Lone Wolf on Jun 15, 2009, 07:39:40 PM
As many other here, I consider Aliens to be the magnum opus of the Alien franchise.

Makes me sad.  :'(
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: Lone Wolf on Jun 15, 2009, 08:22:09 PM
Quote from: SpreadEagleBeagle on Jun 15, 2009, 07:42:16 PM
Quote from: Lone Wolf on Jun 15, 2009, 07:39:40 PM
As many other here, I consider Aliens to be the magnum opus of the Alien franchise.

Makes me sad.  :'(

Hehe, mind being nice and telling why?
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: gigerfan241 on Jun 15, 2009, 08:41:37 PM

magnum opus!?!?  whats your problem? I laugh at your judgement of the best movie! here i go. HA HA HA HA HA HA!                HA!

ALIEN is waaaaaay better than ALIENS. sure aliens is good but not the "magnum opus" or whatever. but we all intitled to are own opinion. but seriously bad judgement.
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: Lone Wolf on Jun 15, 2009, 09:07:09 PM
Quote from: gigerfan241 on Jun 15, 2009, 08:41:37 PM

magnum opus!?!?  whats your problem? I laugh at your judgement of the best movie! here i go. HA HA HA HA HA HA!                HA!

ALIEN is waaaaaay better than ALIENS. sure aliens is good but not the "magnum opus" or whatever. but we all intitled to are own opinion. but seriously bad judgement.

Wow, take it easy. Yes, I consider James Cameron's entry in the series to be the best, but why do you react so ... strongly? It's my opinion, you don't have to agree, I respect your opinion. And the reason I chose the word magnum opus is that both Alien and Aliens are masterpieces, but Aliens is still a better movie, and magnum opus is a word to describe greatest work, and Aliens is the greatest work of the Alien franchise. But I can understand why some people consider the original better, because it's the films are so different, it's more about what genre you like.
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: FearPeteySodes on Jun 15, 2009, 09:32:04 PM
Quote from: gigerfan241 on Jun 15, 2009, 08:41:37 PM

magnum opus!?!?  whats your problem? I laugh at your judgement of the best movie! here i go. HA HA HA HA HA HA!                HA!

ALIEN is waaaaaay better than ALIENS. sure aliens is good but not the "magnum opus" or whatever. but we all intitled to are own opinion. but seriously bad judgement.

Obvious trolls are obvious...
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: SpreadEagleBeagle on Jun 15, 2009, 10:35:43 PM
Quote from: Lone Wolf on Jun 15, 2009, 09:07:09 PM
Hehe, mind being nice and telling why?

I will...


Quote from: Lone Wolf on Jun 15, 2009, 09:07:09 PM
Yes, I consider James Cameron's entry in the series to be the best, but why do you react so ... strongly? It's my opinion, you don't have to agree, I respect your opinion. And the reason I chose the word magnum opus is that both Alien and Aliens are masterpieces, but Aliens is still a better movie, and magnum opus is a word to describe greatest work, and Aliens is the greatest work of the Alien franchise.

Aliens might be the magnum opus of James Cameron, but claiming that it is the magnum opus of a whole Alien franchise is beyond being bold, especially since all the four movies in the franchise are pretty different from each other.

Another thing that really provokes me here, is that a straight-up Hollywood tradition movie is seen as "being the better movie" than Alien and Alien 3, which are two movies that are way more advanced film-wise, and deep even, compared to the crowd pleaser Aliens. Sure, Aliens is a great sci-fi action movie, just like Alien is a great sci-fi horror movie whereas Alien 3 is a great sci-fi thriller drama. And some people consider A:R to be a great sci-fi splatter/action comedy.


Quote from: Lone Wolf on Jun 15, 2009, 09:07:09 PM
But I can understand why some people consider the original better, because it's the films are so different, it's more about what genre you like.

Bingo! Personally Alien 3 is at par with Alien right now for me.
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: Nachtfalke on Jun 16, 2009, 02:02:34 AM
It really does depend on the genre you prefer as there are a couple of genres at least within the franchise. 'Alien' and 'Alien3' are horror films, 'Aliens' and 'A:R' are clearly action films.
If you talk in terms of what is most entertaining, 'Aliens' is my pick, but the most atmospheric is 'Alien'. 'Alien' is also technically better than 'Aliens' in how it is shot and directed IMO.
I will, however, always chose 'Aliens' if it came down to picking one as my fave Alien film.
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: JamesCameronOnline on Jun 16, 2009, 12:44:11 PM
Quote from: Nachtfalke on Jun 16, 2009, 02:02:34 AM
'Alien' is also technically better than 'Aliens' in how it is shot and directed IMO.

Thats an interesting statement sicne Jim wanted to be consistent stylistically with the first movie as well. Studied the way Ridley shot movies and all of his techniques for a long time before starting shooting himself. He copied same use of shadows, angles, zooms and used same lenses. Of course he threw in soome of his style too, but mostly copied Ridley's technques. Thats quite impressive if you ask me, since most of the sequels wouldnt care about stuff like that
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: FearPeteySodes on Jun 16, 2009, 12:48:13 PM
Quote from: JamesCameronOnline on Jun 16, 2009, 12:44:11 PM
Quote from: Nachtfalke on Jun 16, 2009, 02:02:34 AM
'Alien' is also technically better than 'Aliens' in how it is shot and directed IMO.

Thats an interesting statement sicne Jim wanted to be consistent stylistically with the first movie as well. tudied the way Ridlley shot movies and all of his techniques for a long time before starting shooting himself. He copied same use of shadows, angles, zooms and used same lenses. Of course he threw in soome of his tyle too, but mostly copied Ridley's technques. Thats quite impressive if you ask me, since most of the sequels wouldnt care about stuff like that

Very impressive for sure. If it seemed that way Nacht i would venture to guess it had to do with JC's crew having double the budget.  Both are amazing films and both my favorites depending on my mood when you ask me.  ;D
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: JamesCameronOnline on Jun 16, 2009, 12:58:17 PM
Absolutely.
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: Corporal Hicks on Jun 16, 2009, 01:02:56 PM
Quote from: Peteysodes on Jun 16, 2009, 12:48:13 PM
oth are amazing films and both my favorites depending on my mood when you ask me.  ;D

Entirely agree with this comment. The initial trilogy are IMHO all equal. However, depends on what kinda mood you're in since they are all three very different films.
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: JamesCameronOnline on Jun 16, 2009, 01:07:14 PM
Im with you. I really love the first three movies, the first two maybe just a notch above the third one, but still. I do acknwoledge the holes and faults of A3, but that doesnt mean I dont enjoy it a whole lot
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: SpreadEagleBeagle on Jun 16, 2009, 06:33:30 PM
Yeah, each movie of the original trilogy definitely CAN hold a candle to each other and to its own - they're all equally strong, yet very different compared to each other. So yeah, it all depends on what mood you're in and what kind of movies you fancy.

I'm not a big fan of action movies and indisputable story arcs and fast-paced narratives with clear trajectories. I like slow movies with endings that are open for interpretation, melancholic, bittersweet, status quo-esque or just downright sad. Movies with hero(es)/heroine(s) that are superhuman and completely pawn the enemy make me root for the antagonist(s)... Every time an elf or human were snuffed in the LOTR movies, I sheered! During the movies I hoped that Legolas, Eomer or Aragorn would bite the dust, even though I have read the books a gazillion times.

In my fan-edit of Aliens Ripley & Co hit the cryos right after the atmosphere processor nuclear blast - I can't stand the Queen vs. Powerloader fight because to me it's so incredibly stupid and on top of that it doesn't fit the established 'realism' and reality of the Alien universe.
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: DoomRulz on Jun 16, 2009, 06:48:39 PM
Alien 3 took me a while to appreciate. When I saw the theatrical cut I didn't care for it because it seemed like a mess. It was as if someone slapped it together at the last minute. The Assembly Cut made more sense because it was more complete, but it wasn't perfect. And the reason it wasn't perfect to me, was because as good as it was, it was an unnecessary sequel. It is, and always will be, seen as a cash-grab in my eyes.

And let's not talk about Alien: Resurrection. That just sucked hard.
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: SpreadEagleBeagle on Jun 16, 2009, 07:07:38 PM
Quote from: DoomRulz on Jun 16, 2009, 06:48:39 PM
And the reason it wasn't perfect to me, was because as good as it was, it was an unnecessary sequel. It is, and always will be, seen as a cash-grab in my eyes.

W H A T ?!?!?!?!?!  :o

???

You can criticize Alien 3 for a lot of things, but you can't accuse it for being a crowd pleaser because that's just ridiculous. Alien 3 was and still is the perfect and only way to end the Alien saga. If anything was an unnecessary sequel it was A:R or even Aliens, and the reason I add the latter to the list is because Alien didn't need a sequel. To me Alien 3 tied the knot and perfected the whole series and gave Aliens a purpose fitting the dark, cold and harsh universe of Alien. The deaths of Newt and Hicks sobered up the hammy ending of Aliens and brought everything back to reality - there are no such thing as superheroes.
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: DoomRulz on Jun 16, 2009, 07:10:38 PM
That's stupid. Aliens was all the closure we needed. I was more than content with the idea that Hicks, Newt, Bishop, and Ripley all go back home and live happily ever after. The idea of "Uh oh, ONE MOOOORE EGGG AYYYEEE" was so pathetic in retrospect to me it just...if that doesn't scream out desperation, I don't know what does.
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: SpreadEagleBeagle on Jun 16, 2009, 07:59:08 PM
Quote from: DoomRulz on Jun 16, 2009, 07:10:38 PM
That's stupid. Aliens was all the closure we needed. I was more than content with the idea that Hicks, Newt, Bishop, and Ripley all go back home and live happily ever after. The idea of "Uh oh, ONE MOOOORE EGGG AYYYEEE" was so pathetic in retrospect to me it just...if that doesn't scream out desperation, I don't know what does.

A happy ending like the one in Aliens was beyond stupid (let's play family! Momma Ripley, daddy Hicks, doughtier Newt and their old trusty pooch Bishop...).

The Alien in Alien already had a way cooler and scarier way to develop eggs (Egg-morphing) compared to the generic Queen concept... But since Cameron wanted a Hollywood bug hunt in space and he needed a retarded Godzilla vs. King Kong boss fight in the end, he DESPERATELY changed the whole concept to fit him and his idea of the perfect Startroopers (the books) rip-off. Fincher did the same thing, but since people still hold a grudge against him, just like they hail Cameron as if he was a god, the egg thing in Alien 3 isn't considered to be legit. That's hypocrite!
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: DoomRulz on Jun 16, 2009, 08:40:03 PM
I'm not defending what Cameron did. I will always stand by the idea that he did more harm to the Alien than good.

I don't blame Fincher for Alien 3 failing though. I never have and I never will purely because he had to deal with so bullshit from Fox it was coming out of his ears. I think the egg thing in A3 was dumb because it doesn't work logically following the second film. If the Queen needs to develop that large ovipositor (sp?) in order to lay eggs, how the f**k did she do it quick enough to lay an egg in the time it took to get from the colony to the Sulaco?
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: Lt. Mike Harrigan on Jun 16, 2009, 08:42:40 PM
Quote from: DoomRulz on Jun 16, 2009, 08:40:03 PM
I'm not defending what Cameron did. I will always stand by the idea that he did more harm to the Alien than good.

I don't blame Fincher for Alien 3 failing though. I never have and I never will purely because he had to deal with so bullshit from Fox it was coming out of his ears. I think the egg thing in A3 was dumb because it doesn't work logically following the second film. If the Queen needs to develop that large ovipositor (sp?) in order to lay eggs, how the f**k did she do it quick enough to lay an egg in the time it took to get from the colony to the Sulaco?

Can't we assume an Alien warrior or drone planted the egg there? A-la Alien: Resurrection, when they set the trap?
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: DoomRulz on Jun 16, 2009, 09:20:00 PM
How would it have gotten there? They were all in the Hive.
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: Lt. Mike Harrigan on Jun 16, 2009, 09:24:44 PM
The same way the one that killed Spunkmeyer got there...
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: DoomRulz on Jun 16, 2009, 09:44:04 PM
So it got in the ship and didn't kill Bishop and Hicks?


Sure.
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: SpreadEagleBeagle on Jun 16, 2009, 10:04:40 PM
Or maybe she just grabbed one egg and took it with her as she ventured her way through the hive, the elevators and to the dropship? And it makes sense too, especially since her hive was about to burn down.

Another explanation could be that Queens are able to lay eggs without the ovipositor, but the egg layer frequency will be much (s)lower.

Seriously, there are a bunch of viable explanations, but it's up to you and me to decide if they're good enough, and if not then we should ask ourselves if it matters depending on the quality of the rest of the movie. I totally accept Fincher's explanation though. But of course I can understand if it annoys people, especially people who decided they hated Alien 3 from the get-go, even so, I don't think it should matter since the end-product is what I would like to call a "perfectly flawed masterpiece".
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: Dachande on Jun 16, 2009, 10:07:59 PM
Quote from: DoomRulz on Jun 16, 2009, 09:44:04 PM
So it got in the ship and didn't kill Bishop and Hicks?


Sure.

Can't kill something thats not alive
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: FearPeteySodes on Jun 17, 2009, 12:02:47 AM
Quote from: Lt. Mike Harrigan on Jun 16, 2009, 09:24:44 PM
The same way the one that killed Spunkmeyer got there...

That was always my reasoning to a T.  Never saw that alien get in, it was my understanding that it was almost a foreshadowing that the Sulaco was contaminated after the dropship incident.
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: xxxPREDBUGxxx on Jun 18, 2009, 01:48:13 AM
Gotta go with A L I E N but AL()ENS is very close
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: Deadmeat on Jun 20, 2009, 06:58:58 PM
Alien and Aliens.
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: randy4321 on Jun 22, 2009, 09:23:45 PM
Aliens and alien resurrection are my only favorites aliens before ressurection though. any other movies of the franchise are dead to me.
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: Lt. Mike Harrigan on Jun 23, 2009, 09:19:11 AM
Alien 3

It was the first Alien film I ever watched.
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: FearPeteySodes on Jun 23, 2009, 04:38:33 PM
Quote from: Lt. Mike Harrigan on Jun 23, 2009, 09:19:11 AM
Alien 3

It was the first Alien film I ever watched.

Nice, Predator was one of my firsts. 
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: randy4321 on Jun 23, 2009, 05:26:09 PM
Quote from: Peteysodes on Jun 23, 2009, 04:38:33 PM
Quote from: Lt. Mike Harrigan on Jun 23, 2009, 09:19:11 AM
Alien 3

It was the first Alien film I ever watched.

Nice, Predator was one of my firsts. 
Aliens was the first alien film I watched and boy did it creep me out.
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: Deadmeat on Jun 23, 2009, 05:35:35 PM
Well, the first Alien movie that I saw was Ressurection. :P
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: DoomRulz on Jun 23, 2009, 07:40:37 PM
You and I both. The only reason I liked it though was because I didn't have a clue of what the back story was. All I saw was guns, aliens, and shit being blown up.
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: randy4321 on Jun 23, 2009, 08:02:12 PM
Quote from: DoomRulz on Jun 23, 2009, 07:40:37 PM
You and I both. The only reason I liked it though was because I didn't have a clue of what the back story was. All I saw was guns, aliens, and shit being blown up.
lol, yeah and it was creepily awesome
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: Maxyboy on Jun 25, 2009, 06:31:12 AM
Quote from: Lone Wolf on Jun 15, 2009, 09:07:09 PM
Quote from: gigerfan241 on Jun 15, 2009, 08:41:37 PM

magnum opus!?!?  whats your problem? I laugh at your judgement of the best movie! here i go. HA HA HA HA HA HA!                HA!

ALIEN is waaaaaay better than ALIENS. sure aliens is good but not the "magnum opus" or whatever. but we all intitled to are own opinion. but seriously bad judgement.

Wow, take it easy. Yes, I consider James Cameron's entry in the series to be the best, but why do you react so ... strongly? It's my opinion, you don't have to agree, I respect your opinion. And the reason I chose the word magnum opus is that both Alien and Aliens are masterpieces, but Aliens is still a better movie, and magnum opus is a word to describe greatest work, and Aliens is the greatest work of the Alien franchise. But I can understand why some people consider the original better, because it's the films are so different, it's more about what genre you like.
Alright marines, it's time for another Alien verus Aliens debate!
We are going to go and GET SOME!
"we all intitled to are own opinion", but then you say thats bad judgement? What the f**k kind of twisted sense does that make(Note, these rules do not apply to AR and AVP fans they are NOT entitled to there own opinion and should be hunted down and burned at the stake immediately) If we are allowed to have our own opinion, then f**k off! Me and Lone wolf like ALIENS because we like action(most likely) and you like horror movies more(probably). I dont know what is the problem wiht that.
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: Deadmeat on Jun 25, 2009, 09:12:36 AM
Quote from: DoomRulz on Jun 23, 2009, 07:40:37 PM
You and I both. The only reason I liked it though was because I didn't have a clue of what the back story was. All I saw was guns, aliens, and shit being blown up.

LOL Exactly my thoughts! ;D
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: DoomRulz on Jun 25, 2009, 05:01:42 PM
Only after getting more exposure to the franchise did I realize how much it sucks though. Like AvP.
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: randy4321 on Jun 25, 2009, 06:50:10 PM
After watching Aliens and then the others Im pretty sure i was alien last I didnt really like it, except for the chestbursting scene that was awesome but the alien itself i didnt like, i guess cuz I have grown to the other designs.
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: Deadmeat on Jun 25, 2009, 08:24:59 PM
I'm getting a vibe that you are a Predator fan...
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: randy4321 on Jun 25, 2009, 09:02:52 PM
Quote from: Deadmeat on Jun 25, 2009, 08:24:59 PM
I'm getting a vibe that you are a Predator fan...
lol nope more of an alien fan than predator, I like predator but I like alien more im more of a horror/sci-fi fan anyways
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: Deadmeat on Jun 29, 2009, 11:41:23 AM
Well it depends on my mood wich one I like better...
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: Spidey3121 on Jun 29, 2009, 05:44:48 PM
I'm sure i've posted my thoughts on these films earlier on in this thread but ages ago...

#1 - I would have to cite 'Alien' as my favorite film + often cite it as my favorite film of all time, even beyond the realm of the Alien franchise. I find everything about this film to be absolutely brilliant. Yes, there are a few 'goofs' but they are easily forgivable. I just find 'Alien' to be a perfect film. A very solid 4 out of 4 stars.

#2 - While i cite 'Alien' as being my favorite movie i really do find 'Aliens' to be just as great but for different reasons. It is without a doubt my favorite action film of all time. Another 4 out of 4 stars.

#3 - Alien 3 (Assembly Cut): A great and often underrated film by non-series fans but then again, i guess our love for it is what helps define us as fans - lol. Again, there are so many things about this film that i love, especially the scenery and the musical score. The theatrical release really cut out many of the moments that make this film what it is - a character piece/human drama. It's pretty easy to see why the public frowned up the theatrical cut after they loved 'Aliens' so much. Of course they likely would have hated the Assembly Cut just as much @ the time, considering the drastic differences in style/tone. A nice 3.5 out of 4 stars.

#4 - Alien Resurrection: the sore thumb of the lot. I don't hate this film by any means but i do feel it pales in quality to the original 3 films. The style/tone the film takes on is very much in contrast with the previous films. Plus Ripley is now Ripley 8 + the Aliens were no longer scary. As a sci-fi flick it's really not that bad + certainly enjoyable for the action + even the characters aren't so bad after several viewings - lol. Still, not up too par with the rest of the lot. A mediocre 2 out of 4 stars.

That's pretty much it. I could ramble on more about each but who would read it? - lol.
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: Rebellion on Jul 06, 2009, 04:35:59 AM
Aliens was the best no doubt
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: Neverfate on Jul 07, 2009, 07:09:10 AM
Aliens for me.
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: Sorvos on Jul 07, 2009, 10:28:59 AM
Aliens > Alien >> Alien 3 >>>> Alien Resurrection
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: Übermensch on Jul 07, 2009, 12:06:55 PM
I like them all but Alien is my favourite.
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: SoraSnake92 on Jul 15, 2009, 08:11:52 PM
Aliens, Alien, Alien 3 , Alien Resurection
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: Headhunter on Jul 16, 2009, 08:36:47 AM
My order goes
Aliens
Alien Res (Cause Ripleys is an even badass bitch)
Alien
Alien3
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: Cpt.Lewis on Jul 19, 2009, 06:03:13 PM
I love Aliens the most.

My order goes:
Aliens
Alien
Alien Res (I don't think this one gets enough love also like Headhunter I love the evil Ripley)
Alien 3 (It is hard to forgive them for killing of Hicks and Newt)
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: The Demon on Jul 19, 2009, 06:35:03 PM
Aliens
Alien
Alien3
Alien Resurrection
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: Rebellion on Jul 20, 2009, 04:02:45 AM
When i think about it, i have watched Alien so many times and i just love it so im saying Alien   ;D
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: TheMonolith on Jul 20, 2009, 04:46:27 AM
Once I watched Alien, Aliens, and Alien 3 back to back. That was a day to remember.
Ever since then, I viewed them as a single epic film.
That epic wins my vote.
I ought to do that again soon.
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: Deadmeat on Jul 20, 2009, 10:10:49 AM
I love them all...
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: The Demon on Jul 20, 2009, 04:45:42 PM
The first three are absolute master pieces. Love them. Its amazingly hard to choose a favorite between them.

Alien Resurrection is like the retarded nephew of the Alien series. AvP.. they're not even related.
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: amv79 on Jul 21, 2009, 04:14:01 AM
The Original ALIEN

the greatest horror movie ever made
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: Oooodz on Jul 21, 2009, 10:13:16 AM
For me:

Aliens > Alien 3 > Alien > Alien Ressurection

I should note there is a monumental gap between the third and fourth choice :)
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: Vulhala on Jul 21, 2009, 10:24:31 AM
Quote from: Oooodz on Jul 21, 2009, 10:13:16 AM
For me:

Aliens > Alien 3 > Alien >





























Alien Ressurection

I should note there is a monumental gap between the third and fourth choice :)

Fixed  ;)
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: Weasel on Jul 31, 2009, 06:06:27 AM
Aliens, but Alien is the real true classic. I enjoy Aliens more because I like the setting and the fact that there is a ton of them. But Alien is just the classic original, a real horror masterpiece and the movie with the greatest sense of mystery and uncertainty.
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: Space Sweeper on Jul 31, 2009, 02:45:54 PM
I'm twelve years old and what is this?

I'm torn between ALIEN and ALIENS- I love them both for different reasons! "F" it, I can't vote! Too hard! That's what she said!
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: Zyklon on Jul 31, 2009, 10:09:09 PM
I like Aliens slightly more than Alien and Alien 3 (which are equal in my eyes). I actually liked A:R a lot, but it's not quite in the same league.
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: Pred Killer on Aug 14, 2009, 08:09:49 AM
I like all the Alien movies, they each have their own unique spark, which sets them apart from other sagas that share the same director.
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: SpaceMarines on Aug 27, 2009, 03:50:11 AM
Alien is my favourite, then Aliens. Alien3 sucked horribly. I wish they had done that differently i.e. keeping Hicks, Newt, and Bishop alive. Haven't seen the fourth one yet.
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: DoomRulz on Aug 27, 2009, 03:07:44 PM
Don't bother. It's the worst out of either franchise IMO.
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: Vulhala on Aug 27, 2009, 03:08:49 PM
Quote from: DoomRulz on Aug 27, 2009, 03:07:44 PM
Don't bother. It's the worst out of either franchise IMO.

Right behind Predator 2  ;)
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: DoomRulz on Aug 27, 2009, 03:17:35 PM
Ya...it is behind Predator 2. At least Predator 2 wasn't 100 something years in the future after the previous film with a cloned protagonist, wtf.
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: Vulhala on Aug 27, 2009, 03:24:47 PM
.................it was a joke Doom?
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: DoomRulz on Aug 27, 2009, 03:27:12 PM
You shame me...
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: SpaceMarines on Aug 27, 2009, 04:27:29 PM
I actually kind of liked Predator 2. Probably just because it had Danny Glover.
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: Chris!(($$))! on Sep 03, 2009, 04:43:25 AM
ALIENS is my favorite but ALIEN is the best.
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: A L I E N on Sep 05, 2009, 11:24:18 AM
A L () E N S is the best IMO! ;D
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: SpreadEagleBeagle on Sep 07, 2009, 01:32:40 AM
I'd say that Alien 3 and Alien are my favorites. Pretty indifferent about A:R (such a missed opportunity), and every time I watch Aliens I like it less and less (let's face it: it's one of the most overrated movies of all time).
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: Chris!(($$))! on Sep 07, 2009, 04:41:45 AM
I do not know why people can not just love the first 3.
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: coolshow on Sep 22, 2009, 09:39:13 AM
I like all three but Aliens is the best 
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: DoomRulz on Sep 22, 2009, 11:37:19 PM
Quote from: Chris!(($$))! on Sep 07, 2009, 04:41:45 AM
I do not know why people can not just love the first 3.

Some do. There are users here who cream over Alien 3, citing it as a masterpiece.
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: Chris!(($$))! on Sep 24, 2009, 02:27:10 AM
Thats what I mean. Its not bad or great ever. Its a good ALIEN film which means its a VERY good sci-fi film but I just do not think people should go crazy over it or hate it. That love should go to ALIEN or maybe ALIENS. Then again this is my opinion.
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: coolshow on Oct 07, 2009, 12:33:38 PM
I like the first two
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: ElderPredator on Oct 07, 2009, 12:40:43 PM
ALIEN  is my favorite now.
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: coolshow on Oct 07, 2009, 12:43:27 PM
I agree its the one that started it all
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: LordShambler on Oct 11, 2009, 03:23:37 PM
i rate them in teh order they came out, funnily enough.

tho i stopped watching res half-way through..
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: Chris!(($$))! on Oct 11, 2009, 04:25:51 PM
Quote from: LordShambler on Oct 11, 2009, 03:23:37 PM
i rate them in teh order they came out, funnily enough.

tho i stopped watching res half-way through..

lol.
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: SpaceMarines on Oct 14, 2009, 02:24:31 AM
Everybody keeps talking about Alien3. I should watch it again. Its been awhile.
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: sjs41390 on Oct 26, 2009, 02:32:20 AM
Aliens is definitely my favorite though I have to say I really do like all of them even with their flaws.  I don't think any of them are unwatchable, which is more than most franchises can say *Cough*Saw*End Cough*.  Did anyone catch the marathon on AMC this weekend?
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: SpaceMarines on Oct 26, 2009, 04:27:38 AM
Quote from: sjs41390 on Oct 26, 2009, 02:32:20 AM
Aliens is definitely my favorite though I have to say I really do like all of them even with their flaws.  I don't think any of them are unwatchable, which is more than most franchises can say *Cough*Saw*End Cough*.  Did anyone catch the marathon on AMC this weekend?

I did. Unfortunately, hockey got in the way of Alien and Aliens, so I only saw the very beginning of the former, and the very end of the latter. I did manage to catch Alien3 the next night, and it was better than I remember it being. Still not very good, but better.
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: postman on Oct 26, 2009, 05:16:41 AM
I''ll say Aliens, but Alien is closer now to replacing that tittle more then ever.
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: Gregor on Nov 18, 2009, 08:19:09 PM
1. Alien 3 (the special edition):For its style, its architecture( art nouveau hints),its amazing music, its pseudo religious sub-texts,the way Ripley changes throughout the film and the Weyland Yutani commando's (those guys looked so cool). Alien 3 9.9/10

2.Alien:For creating the greating the greastist Sci-Fi trilogy ever recorded in human history, for its tense story,its thrills,its horror,its mystery and for its pure originality and design. 9/10

3.Aliens (the first Alien film i saw):For giving me nightmares as a 9 year old, for making me go as a USCM marine for Halloween when i was 10, and for getting me into the Alien Franchise at the age of 9 (guess i still haven't grown up). 8.5/10








What there was a fourth one and 2 spin off's?..........no not in book, retreats back into self security bubble.
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: Bevo2506 on Nov 26, 2009, 04:46:33 PM
Aliens was the very first movie i saw of that series.....then i got hooked
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: War Wager on Nov 26, 2009, 11:06:01 PM
Resurrection.
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: Alien³ on Nov 26, 2009, 11:39:23 PM
Quote from: SpaceMarines on Oct 14, 2009, 02:24:31 AM
Everybody keeps talking about Alien3. I should watch it again. Its been awhile.

Watch it and enjoy it for what it is, a classic! Sorry I'm forcing my A3 love onto people again :P
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: DoomRulz on Nov 26, 2009, 11:45:29 PM
It's tolerable for what it is. Long as you don't have high expectations, you'll enjoy it.
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: SM on Nov 26, 2009, 11:49:13 PM
Yeah, essentially don't get your hopes up for more fo the same after Aliens.  It's a completely different - and inferior in many respects - beast.

If you're an Alien geek, you probably won't care though.
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: SiL on Nov 26, 2009, 11:53:43 PM
Although I would say in the acting and cinematography departments it's a far superior beast.
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: SM on Nov 26, 2009, 11:54:47 PM
Note my judicious use of "many".  ;)
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: Alien³ on Nov 26, 2009, 11:57:16 PM
Thats why I love A3 so much, its a very different experience from any other alien film.
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: DoomRulz on Nov 27, 2009, 12:00:10 AM
Quote from: SiL on Nov 26, 2009, 11:53:43 PM
Although I would say in the acting and cinematography departments it's a far superior beast.

Script too.
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: SM on Nov 27, 2009, 12:17:40 AM
No.  The Alien3 script is largely a mess.  Its starts with confused implausability, then spends the first hour of the film with the audience ahead of the characters - even Ripley.  There is some real gold in there, no doubt, but overall it's worse than either of its predeccesors.
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: SiL on Nov 27, 2009, 12:20:17 AM
Pretty much.

I think the characters of Alien 3 are better written - Those that constitute characters, anyway - and it works a much more emotional story, but at least Aliens is coherent.
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: DoomRulz on Nov 27, 2009, 12:24:08 AM
What do you mean by 'far ahead'?
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: SiL on Nov 27, 2009, 12:24:59 AM
We know thar be Alien, no-one else does.
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: SM on Nov 27, 2009, 12:26:59 AM
In Alien and Aliens, info was dished out to the characters at the same time as the audience.  In Alien3 there an Alien running around killing people for the first half, leading the audience to start wondering when the hell Ripley's going to figure it out.
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: Bevo2506 on Nov 27, 2009, 12:31:06 AM
Yes!
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: DoomRulz on Nov 27, 2009, 12:39:11 AM
Quote from: SM on Nov 27, 2009, 12:26:59 AM
In Alien and Aliens, info was dished out to the characters at the same time as the audience.  In Alien3 there an Alien running around killing people for the first half, leading the audience to start wondering when the hell Ripley's going to figure it out.

Why is that a bad thing? We know there's an Alien, but that doesn't tell us where the story is heading. Or rather, how it will pan out.
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: Alien³ on Nov 27, 2009, 12:40:23 AM
Quote from: SM on Nov 27, 2009, 12:26:59 AM
In Alien and Aliens, info was dished out to the characters at the same time as the audience.  In Alien3 there an Alien running around killing people for the first half, leading the audience to start wondering when the hell Ripley's going to figure it out.

But thats the whole point, shes got a false sense of security which makes you itch to see her when she finds out the horrifying truth about her current and future situation. Plus the free time she has before finding out the truth builds her relationship with Clemens making his demise all the more horrific for her and the audience. I mean I fell in love with that character at the same time Ripley does. His speech before his death is brilliantly executed by Charles Dance and wonderfully shot. 
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: MadassAlex on Nov 27, 2009, 12:42:28 AM
Quote from: DoomRulz on Nov 27, 2009, 12:39:11 AM
Why is that a bad thing? We know there's an Alien, but that doesn't tell us where the story is heading. Or rather, how it will pan out.

We're sorta twitching in our seats for half an hour to an hour, waiting for the fun stuff to start. And we know it'll only start when the characters begin to work things out. So there's a whole lot of wasted time there.
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: SM on Nov 27, 2009, 12:47:10 AM
QuoteWhy is that a bad thing? We know there's an Alien, but that doesn't tell us where the story is heading. Or rather, how it will pan out.

It's a bad thing because it makes the hero look foolish for not knowing what the audience does.

QuoteBut thats the whole point, shes got a false sense of security...  

But it's a false, false sense of security, because there's no real shock when Ripley finally finds out the truth.  We've been waiting too long for her to find out.  We even suspect she's carrying a embryo by that point because of the title sequence and the Alien leaving her be (and the trailers...)

Exact same thing made all the characters in AvP seem like idiots because we'd seen so much of the Aliens and Predators that they hadn't.

QuoteSo there's a whole lot of wasted time there.

Particularly in the AC or WP with the stuff about Golic, Boggs and Rains.  I do like the "I mind Golic" scene, and I see what they were trying to do - same thing with the early Murphy scene with Spike, but in the grand scheme of things it's just too slow.
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: MadassAlex on Nov 27, 2009, 01:01:27 AM
The funny thing is that it could all be fixed with some editing and cutting down. Reintroducing the whole Assembly Cut version of when they capture the Alien can pad the meaty part of the movie while they cut stuff that isn't so relevant.

In addition, leaving the Alien's birth until later in the film would compact the action-time. So we could have all the character relations scenes before the monster ever shows up, have it born and cut the crap about it waiting around until it starts ripping into those bastards.
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: SM on Nov 27, 2009, 01:06:22 AM
QuoteReintroducing the whole Assembly Cut version of when they capture the Alien can pad the meaty part of the movie while they cut stuff that isn't so relevant.

You mean have the character stuff while it's stashed away in the waste dump?

Possibly - but the earlier stuff was an attempt to connect with characters who were about to die - Boggs, Rains and Murphy.  In the end they were so hard to tell apart, it didn't make much difference.

One disappointment though was there was no pay off for the Ripley-Junior thing.  There's a great look between them during the fire and Junior was robbed of his sacrifice and redemption.  Mind you, once again, it's likely the audience wouldn't have recognised him during the fire sequence anyway (unless he had his rape goggles on perhaps).
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: MadassAlex on Nov 27, 2009, 01:09:42 AM
Some of the character stuff while it's stashed, sure, but stuff that needs to come before the Alien can do just that.
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: Bevo2506 on Nov 27, 2009, 02:03:11 AM
Wow it changed to another subject now
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: Alien³ on Nov 27, 2009, 07:49:50 PM
Quote from: SM on Nov 27, 2009, 01:06:22 AM
QuoteReintroducing the whole Assembly Cut version of when they capture the Alien can pad the meaty part of the movie while they cut stuff that isn't so relevant.

You mean have the character stuff while it's stashed away in the waste dump?

Possibly - but the earlier stuff was an attempt to connect with characters who were about to die - Boggs, Rains and Murphy.  In the end they were so hard to tell apart, it didn't make much difference.

One disappointment though was there was no pay off for the Ripley-Junior thing.  There's a great look between them during the fire and Junior was robbed of his sacrifice and redemption.  Mind you, once again, it's likely the audience wouldn't have recognised him during the fire sequence anyway (unless he had his rape goggles on perhaps).

I agree with you there. The look Junior gives Ripley before he sacrifices himself could have been emphasized more because it was like he was saying sorry to Ripley for being a bastard and to make up for it he saves everyones lives. Well for a while at least.
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: AlienQueen79 on Dec 03, 2009, 09:17:45 PM
Alien and Aliens are my two favourites, but I would probably say that Alien is my favourite :D
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: Bad Replicant on Dec 05, 2009, 09:00:44 AM
To be perfectly honest, I like Alien, Aliens and Alien 3 all equally for different reasons... so I gave the vote to Alien 3 just because it has the lowest number of those three. ;)
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: Nightmare Asylum on Dec 05, 2009, 03:30:03 PM
Quote from: AlienQueen79 on Dec 03, 2009, 09:17:45 PM
Alien and Aliens are my two favourites, but I would probably say that Alien is my favourite :D

That's exactly how I feel.
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: SpaceMarines on Dec 05, 2009, 07:49:57 PM
Same here. Both are great films, but Alien has a certain feel to it that Aliens just doesn't have.
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: TJ Doc on Dec 06, 2009, 01:25:59 AM
Wow, I don't think I've ever posted here. I definitely haven't voted anyway.

Now, I notice that the thread title concerns my favourite 'Alien' film. In that case, I'm going to go with Aliens. It's just a blast to watch and never gets old with repeated viewings (for me, in any case).

But I do recognize Alien as being the best of the set. It really is; and it it deserves its place as numero uno for a whole raft of reasons.

Alien 3 is great too. If I had to rate it (something I will try to avoid from now on) I'd award it a 4/5 for the assembly cut. Maybe a 3 for the theatrical cut.

Finally (and just for the sake of it), I do like Resurrection quite a bit. I guess I just like its bizarre... French feel. The Newborn was kinda cool too; and provided a 'nice' little surprise for the climax.

The End
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: keylight-di on Dec 06, 2009, 01:40:04 PM
For me definitely Alien. The first and the best. And two reasons more: This was the first movie about the Alien/s I watched (it was very long ago, I was almost a child). And it changed me irrevocably.  It changed my way of thinking, perception of the world, everything. Subsequent movies were only used to supplement of reshape my diseased imagination.  ;)
Another pieces of the puzzle.
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: predalien27 on Dec 12, 2009, 05:59:20 AM
Aliens
Alien3
Alien (beginning is too slow for my little mind  ;))
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: SpaceMarines on Dec 12, 2009, 07:14:12 AM
It's slow for a reason; to build the suspense. Although I can see how some people wouldn't like that.
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: DoomRulz on Dec 12, 2009, 07:15:43 AM
Buildup is insanely good; only movie to ever make me jump due to a loading computer screen :D
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: predalien27 on Dec 12, 2009, 08:44:20 PM
Quote from: SpaceMarines on Dec 12, 2009, 07:14:12 AM
It's slow for a reason; to build the suspense. Although I can see how some people wouldn't like that.
Well I know that, but the more I see the more it gets better.
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: DoomRulz on Dec 12, 2009, 09:59:11 PM
I watch it less...in fact, last time I saw Alien was May. I don't watch it often because I don't want it to lose its cinematic value.
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: Undeadite on Dec 14, 2009, 07:34:45 AM
Same here. I try to go at least 6 months between viewings.
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: xeno_alpha_07 on Dec 14, 2009, 10:53:21 AM
Quote from: DoomRulz on Dec 12, 2009, 09:59:11 PM
I watch it less...in fact, last time I saw Alien was May. I don't watch it often because I don't want it to lose its cinematic value.

Weird thing is it's the opposite with me, i tend to watch them a lot and they never ware off or lose their cinematic value to me.
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: Mr. Stizout on Dec 14, 2009, 02:57:24 PM
I would have to say:

Aliens
Alien
Alien 3
Alien Ressurection
AVP2
AVP
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: predalien27 on Dec 14, 2009, 11:30:51 PM
Quote from: DoomRulz on Dec 12, 2009, 09:59:11 PM
I watch it less...in fact, last time I saw Alien was May. I don't watch it often because I don't want it to lose its cinematic value.
I usually don't watch them unless UI have enough time to in one sitting.  Other than that, I watch tham on TV if they are on.
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: Dill-On on Dec 25, 2009, 11:58:52 PM
I submited Alien3.

Cameron make spectacular movies but I prefer watching movies where one alien make scary slaughterhouse, like ALIEN or ALIEN 3.
This scary flavour... you know... i'd like it.
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: Jorko_Beliata on Dec 26, 2009, 08:55:39 AM
Hell, Aliens!  ;D Then Alien. Kind of, didn't like Alien 3, and concede Resurrection a bad fan-fiction... :-X 
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: Swizzly on Jan 03, 2010, 01:37:04 AM
1. Aliens
2. Alien
3. Alien 3

4. AvP
4. A:R

5.AvP 2
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: The Demon on Jan 03, 2010, 08:12:24 PM
Aliens
Alien 3
Alien
Alien Resurrection

What the hell is avp and avpr?  ;)
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: Geraint95 on Jan 07, 2010, 01:38:41 PM
My top 2 are definitely alien and alien 3, cant really decide but then just under those two is aliens and a fair bit underneath aliens is Resurrection, love them all though!
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: Lie on Jan 13, 2010, 06:19:21 PM
Aliens
Alien res
Alien
Alien 3

alien res before alien only because of winona ryder
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: SpaceMarines on Jan 14, 2010, 04:04:25 AM
Let me get this straight: you put a mediocre film in front of what is considered to be one of the greatest science fiction and horror films ever made because of a single actress?
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: SM on Jan 14, 2010, 04:09:16 AM
Seems you have the general gist of it there.
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: Pvt. Hicks on Jan 14, 2010, 05:13:03 AM
Aliens
Alien
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: predalien27 on Jan 14, 2010, 09:42:38 PM
Quote from: Pvt. Hicks on Jan 14, 2010, 05:13:03 AM
Aliens
Alien
So whats your beef with Alien 3?
(Also AVP which I'm starting to like more and more, but opposite for AVP:R)
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: SM on Jan 14, 2010, 10:22:25 PM
QuoteSo whats your beef with Alien 3?

I'm guessing he doesn't like it very much.
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: predalien27 on Jan 14, 2010, 10:54:02 PM
Quote from: SM on Jan 14, 2010, 10:22:25 PM
QuoteSo whats your beef with Alien 3?

I'm guessing he doesn't like it very much.
But why?  Just curious.
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: Lie on Jan 14, 2010, 11:14:40 PM
Quote from: SpaceMarines on Jan 14, 2010, 04:04:25 AM
Let me get this straight: you put a mediocre film in front of what is considered to be one of the greatest science fiction and horror films ever made because of a single actress?

lol thats a hurtful way to put it but yes
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: SpaceMarines on Jan 14, 2010, 11:42:41 PM
I'm sorry, but I'm dumbfounded by that.
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: Pvt. Hicks on Jan 15, 2010, 12:15:37 AM
Quote from: predalien27 on Jan 14, 2010, 10:54:02 PM
Quote from: SM on Jan 14, 2010, 10:22:25 PM
QuoteSo whats your beef with Alien 3?

I'm guessing he doesn't like it very much.
But why?  Just curious.

I appreciate the movie for its great score and cinematography, but to me it's very disjointed from the first two.
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: Giant Ox on Jan 20, 2010, 06:09:48 PM
Aliens is my fav the Queen looked kick ass
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: specter on Jan 20, 2010, 07:50:42 PM
"Aliens" followed closely by "Alien"

I like the Colonial Marines too much, and I did see Aliens first. So it gets a slight edge.

And I can't enjoy Alien 3 because of Hicks Death. Its sad, I know.
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: peanut8 on Jan 23, 2010, 01:18:00 PM
To me, the first three films come together as one great film. 'Alien' provides the build-up and foreboding, 'Aliens' provides the climatic action, and 'Alien 3' give us the denouement and conclusion. Each part has its own climaxes, naturally, but I think 'Aliens' gives us the real big one.

And in my personal opinion, 'Alien 3' saved 'Aliens' (Not that 'Aliens' was anything short of near-perfection as it was, but it helped maintain that 100% near-perfection). The second film was ending with something that was to be expected of Cameron- happy makeshift family, mommy, daddy and the little girl, the monsters are dealt and done with resoundingly (Nuclear overkill), and everything's gonna be alright, they're on their way home.

An ending hardly reminiscent to the first film, where the director had originally intended for the alien to win. So, if you consider the beginning of 'Alien 3' to be the next scene in the large movie which, ignoring the credits, takes place minutes thereafter for the viewer, we get a resounding tale of hopelessness, terror, and non-cliché (Hick's face DEMOLISHED, Newt drowned, Ripley chestbursted). The movie ends with the conclusion that, even though Ripley gained the upper hand for a while, she was outdone and destroyed: the only survivor of the first two movies being a cat. The monstrosity has triumphed, it has displayed its deadliness, and the audience can no longer leave the cinema thinking 'Well, the aliens sure got their asses kicked.'

So yeah, the first 3 movies made into one great 'Aliens' movie is what I consider to be the best horror 'movie' ever. I believe A:R is just too far off in the future to be able to have anything to do with the first three films. Hollywood found itself forced to create a fourth movie that had nothing to do with the original three films but for the monsters, characters and lore: no spiritual or fluid continuation, no easy walk over a bridge left by the last film. David Fincher, knowingly or unknowingly, grabbed the 'Aliens' series in its moment of perfection and severed the chain of Hollywood money-whoring before it could truly start by creating a work that allowed absolutely no possible direct sequel... except for maybe A:CM.

Well, there's my personal take on the series.
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: predalien27 on Jan 23, 2010, 07:09:54 PM
Quote from: peanut8 on Jan 23, 2010, 01:18:00 PM
To me, the first three films come together as one great film. 'Alien' provides the build-up and foreboding, 'Aliens' provides the climatic action, and 'Alien 3' give us the denouement and conclusion. Each part has its own climaxes, naturally, but I think 'Aliens' gives us the real big one.

And in my personal opinion, 'Alien 3' saved 'Aliens' (Not that 'Aliens' was anything short of near-perfection as it was, but it helped maintain that 100% near-perfection). The second film was ending with something that was to be expected of Cameron- happy makeshift family, mommy, daddy and the little girl, the monsters are dealt and done with resoundingly (Nuclear overkill), and everything's gonna be alright, they're on their way home.

An ending hardly reminiscent to the first film, where the director had originally intended for the alien to win. So, if you consider the beginning of 'Alien 3' to be the next scene in the large movie which, ignoring the credits, takes place minutes thereafter for the viewer, we get a resounding tale of hopelessness, terror, and non-cliché (Hick's face DEMOLISHED, Newt drowned, Ripley chestbursted). The movie ends with the conclusion that, even though Ripley gained the upper hand for a while, she was outdone and destroyed: the only survivor of the first two movies being a cat. The monstrosity has triumphed, it has displayed its deadliness, and the audience can no longer leave the cinema thinking 'Well, the aliens sure got their asses kicked.'

So yeah, the first 3 movies made into one great 'Aliens' movie is what I consider to be the best horror 'movie' ever. I believe A:R is just too far off in the future to be able to have anything to do with the first three films. Hollywood found itself forced to create a fourth movie that had nothing to do with the original three films but for the monsters, characters and lore: no spiritual or fluid continuation, no easy walk over a bridge left by the last film. David Fincher, knowingly or unknowingly, grabbed the 'Aliens' series in its moment of perfection and severed the chain of Hollywood money-whoring before it could truly start by creating a work that allowed absolutely no possible direct sequel... except for maybe A:CM.

Well, there's my personal take on the series.
Wow, that wall-o-text just completely expressed how I felt about the Alien movies.
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: First Blood on Jan 25, 2010, 03:49:25 AM
Well,

For me, Aliens because I love the Colonial Marines aspect of the film.

Then Alien

Followed by Alien 3

Lastly Alien Resurrection, which had its good points (the underwater sequence is one of my favorites) but this one was a let down for me.
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: Fatal Facepalm on Jan 25, 2010, 09:01:49 AM
I third that Peanut!! I doubt anyone could express it better  :)
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: Hollowhero on Jan 25, 2010, 08:32:35 PM
Alien i think is the better film but only SLIGHTLY better than aliens.... that bit in the vents/maintenace shafts from alien was brilliant ;D :D ;) :) 8)
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: xenomorph16473 on Jan 25, 2010, 09:16:09 PM
Alien: masterpice.

Aliens: masterpice aswell.

Alien3: Okay.

Alien res: a plie of elephant crap.

Avp: stupid but fun.

Avp R: made me want to eat a pile of elephant crap.
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: SpaceMarines on Jan 26, 2010, 12:02:01 AM
That more or less sums up my view of the series. Except I think A:R was an okay film, if viewing it solely as a film, not as an Alien one. It was a bit less than mediocre.
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: predalien27 on Jan 26, 2010, 04:19:35 AM
Quote from: SpaceMarines on Jan 26, 2010, 12:02:01 AM
That more or less sums up my view of the series. Except I think A:R was an okay film, if viewing it solely as a film, not as an Alien one. It was a bit less than mediocre.
But, I can't do that! It doesn't make any sense to me if I try to think of it as a sole film.
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: SpaceMarines on Jan 26, 2010, 05:15:04 AM
I can separate my film-loving self from my Alien-loving self. It helped me when I watched A:R. It helped a lot.
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: The Demon on Jan 27, 2010, 02:24:12 AM
Quote from: DoomRulz on Dec 12, 2009, 09:59:11 PM
I watch it less...in fact, last time I saw Alien was May. I don't watch it often because I don't want it to lose its cinematic value.

Same here.

I mean other people can watch it over and over. More power to them. But I just can't.
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: Space_Dementia on Jan 31, 2010, 03:22:25 PM
I voted Alien 3, though I love them all equally, and some for different reasons.

Alien 3, Aliens, Alien, Alien Res...thats the order I'd put them in.

I just really liked the dark gothic look of Alien 3, and how Fincher experimented with the camera, the colour pallet, the score, everything. Its a very underated movie.

But like I said, its very hard to choose a favourite as I loved them all, yes, even Ressurection.
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: SpaceMarines on Jan 31, 2010, 07:06:20 PM
I can understand why people like Alien3, but it simply didn't do it for me. None of the characters were very well-developed, with the exception of Ripley, and it was really hard to tell them apart. Almost all of them were bald, white, British guys. The story didn't really drag me in, either. Granted, this film did have its moments, but overall it just wasn't that good. They also killed Hicks and Bishop! They couldn't even give Hicks the dignity of an onscreen death.
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: predalien27 on Jan 31, 2010, 07:12:38 PM
Quote from: SpaceMarines on Jan 31, 2010, 07:06:20 PM
I can understand why people like Alien3, but it simply didn't do it for me. None of the characters were very well-developed, with the exception of Ripley, and it was really hard to tell them apart. Almost all of them were bald, white, British guys. The story didn't really drag me in, either. Granted, this film did have its moments, but overall it just wasn't that good. They also killed Hicks and Bishop! They couldn't even give Hicks the dignity of an onscreen death.
But that's the beauty of the movie.  It show how ruthless the Alien is even when it is not directly killing people.  Nothing can escape it... except Jones.  :P
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: SpaceMarines on Jan 31, 2010, 07:15:07 PM
Ah, yes. Jonesy the supercat.
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: Space_Dementia on Feb 01, 2010, 01:19:49 AM
I laugh at everytime ppl mention or complain about the fact the entire cast was made out of british actors for Alien 3 lol

Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: RubberChickenMan on Feb 01, 2010, 10:24:19 AM
aliens is not just my favorite alien movie; its my favorite movie of all time.
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: predalien27 on Feb 01, 2010, 09:26:29 PM
Quote from: RubberChickenMan on Feb 01, 2010, 10:24:19 AM
aliens is not just my favorite alien movie; its my favorite movie of all time.
For me, Aliens is my favorite movie of all time, but it isn't the best movie I've ever seen.  :o
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: SpaceMarines on Feb 01, 2010, 11:05:29 PM
Quote from: muse_manic on Feb 01, 2010, 01:19:49 AM
I laugh at everytime ppl mention or complain about the fact the entire cast was made out of british actors for Alien 3 lol

I'm not complaining that they were British. I actually like British actors. It's just that none of them were distinct in any way. The only one I could tell apart was this guy:

(https://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.filmsite.org%2Ffotos%2Falien3_10.jpg&hash=fe190217e31907cbfb3860cbbe51355e2832cf02)

and that's because I had seen him in other films.
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: First Blood on Feb 01, 2010, 11:08:37 PM
Most notably, The Lost World: Jurassic Park
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: SpaceMarines on Feb 01, 2010, 11:09:04 PM
Yeah, that's how I recognized him.
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: Omegamorph on Feb 04, 2010, 06:33:16 AM
Quote from: First Blood on Feb 01, 2010, 11:08:37 PM
Most notably, The Lost World: Jurassic Park
And Dragonheart.
Gilbert!!! :D
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: Hive Tyrant on Feb 06, 2010, 10:52:17 PM
Loved Alien the most. Thought the Xenomorph was most terrifying in the original... because it didn't die until the end. In Aliens, they die all over the place. The first one seemed to be more... untouchable. Like a wraith.
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: SpaceMarines on Feb 07, 2010, 12:52:39 AM
Exactly; its just terror incarnate.
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: DoomRulz on Feb 07, 2010, 04:56:12 PM
Or, because in Aliens, the means to kill the creatures were present as opposed to the first film.
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: SpaceMarines on Feb 07, 2010, 10:59:26 PM
That's what made it so much more hopeless and (for me, anyways) more terrifying. They couldn't kill it.
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: WinterActual on Feb 10, 2010, 01:21:56 PM
My fav alien movies are Aliens and Alien Resurrection.We all know why ALiens is fav for most of the people but I like Resurrection too.Its kinda epic doomed to death part of the movies.This quote is so great and epic for me

QuoteDoes it grow?

Yeah.

Very rapidly.

It's a queen.

How did you know that?

She'll breed. You'll die.

Everyone in the Company
will die.
Dont you think so? And the soundtrack is great too,its heavy,hopeless,dark soundtrack.Aliens looks perfect,with the slime.Scene with the mad scientist and the big bad alien in the cage is so beautiful for me.I dont know why poeple doesn't like this movie  ??? I like it more than Alien3  :-\
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: superdeathpredator on Feb 11, 2010, 03:48:40 AM
This is my order aliens, alien3, alien, and then alien resurection
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: Hive Tyrant on Feb 11, 2010, 01:59:56 PM
Quote from: DoomRulz on Feb 07, 2010, 04:56:12 PM
Or, because in Aliens, the means to kill the creatures were present as opposed to the first film.

Yes, which took away a big part of the first movie. As SpaceMarines said, the increasing despair of the situation and desperate attempts to kill the horror really made it for me.
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: maddriver on Feb 11, 2010, 02:10:09 PM
QuoteDont you think so? And the soundtrack is great too,its heavy,hopeless,dark soundtrack.Aliens looks perfect,with the slime.Scene with the mad scientist and the big bad alien in the cage is so beautiful for me.I dont know why poeple doesn't like this movie  ??? I like it more than Alien3  :-\

1. Alien design. It's just a bug/insect-like creature. Giger's original design was this biomechanical killer. Even in Aliens, the xenomorphs had biomechanical details on their skin. In Ressurrection, they look like dinosaurs, especially their legs and are no longer frightening.

2. The Newborn is a joke. Plain and simple. Oh, and it has eyes! How could they do this to one of the greatest monsters in movie history?

3. The plot.

4. The jokes. While Johner has some good lines, the rest of the "funny" dialogue is bad. The jokes are so corny. They tried to do the same thing Aliens did, but they failed.
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: WinterActual on Feb 11, 2010, 06:47:48 PM
Yea the alien legs are fail but I like these in cage scene as I said before.For me every alien design after the first movie is not frightening actually :| Newborn is so-so,I cant decide if I like it or I hate it.But I think is cool if the queen produce aliens like human,without egg,but standart aliens,not newborns.Then the hell will come to earth :D (or wherever is the nest)
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: maddriver on Feb 11, 2010, 06:58:31 PM
Quote from: DeStefano on Feb 11, 2010, 06:47:48 PM
Yea the alien legs are fail but I like these in cage scene as I said before.For me every alien design after the first movie is not frightening actually :| Newborn is so-so,I cant decide if I like it or I hate it.But I think is cool if the queen produce aliens like human,without egg,but standart aliens,not newborns.Then the hell will come to earth :D (or wherever is the nest)
True. The movie had good ideas, but the way they used these ideas in the movie weren't something to make them proud of  :D
It a shame when you have good ideas, but screw up when shooting the actual movie. In my opinion, Resurrection could have been a lot better, because it had potential to explore the new ways DNA mixing affects the xenomorphs, but... :'(
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: Nightmare Asylum on Feb 11, 2010, 08:22:24 PM
Quote from: maddriver on Feb 11, 2010, 06:58:31 PM
Quote from: DeStefano on Feb 11, 2010, 06:47:48 PM
Yea the alien legs are fail but I like these in cage scene as I said before.For me every alien design after the first movie is not frightening actually :| Newborn is so-so,I cant decide if I like it or I hate it.But I think is cool if the queen produce aliens like human,without egg,but standart aliens,not newborns.Then the hell will come to earth :D (or wherever is the nest)
True. The movie had good ideas, but the way they used these ideas in the movie weren't something to make them proud of  :D
It a shame when you have good ideas, but screw up when shooting the actual movie. In my opinion, Resurrection could have been a lot better, because it had potential to explore the new ways DNA mixing affects the xenomorphs, but... :'(

Agreed. AR could have been a great horror film, but instead rushed the great parts and tried to be too much like Aliens.
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: The Demon on Feb 11, 2010, 09:14:04 PM
Quote from: superdeathpredator on Feb 11, 2010, 03:48:40 AM
This is my order aliens, alien3, alien, and then alien resurection

That's my same order.  :D
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: Corporate Merc on Feb 13, 2010, 04:26:05 AM
ALIENS...........hands down theeeeeee most badass alien movie on the planet IMO.
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: Wolf The Predator on Feb 13, 2010, 06:30:09 AM
Aliens
Resurrection Minus the Melted Candle Man-alien
Alien 3
Alien

- Wolf
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: Navaha on Feb 13, 2010, 01:55:25 PM
Alien and Aliens are about a tie to me, they're good for different reasons. :P
Alien 3
Alien: Resurrection

Quote from: Wolf The Predator on Feb 13, 2010, 06:30:09 AM
Aliens
Resurrection Minus the Melted Candle Man-alien
Alien 3
Alien

- Wolf

:o
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: MrBrokenTusks. on Feb 14, 2010, 05:22:40 PM
Aliens, Alien, Alien Rez , Then Alien3 could never get over her hair. (and when i was watching it. I was texting all the way threw the movie so that might be why.

I am due to watch all four movies (as well as avp and predator movies ) in order this week in anticipation for the new avp game.
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: SpaceMarines on Feb 16, 2010, 12:43:38 AM
Quote from: Navaha on Feb 13, 2010, 01:55:25 PM
Quote from: Wolf The Predator on Feb 13, 2010, 06:30:09 AM
Aliens
Resurrection Minus the Melted Candle Man-alien
Alien 3
Alien

- Wolf

:o

I concur. I would love to see some reasons for that ordering.
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: DoomRulz on Feb 16, 2010, 01:02:32 AM
Opinion, I imagine would be the first.
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: SpaceMarines on Feb 16, 2010, 01:03:09 AM
I know, but I'd like to see specific reasons. I gave them for why I like Alien the most; I'd like to see the reasons he likes it the least.
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: DoomRulz on Feb 16, 2010, 01:09:37 AM
Probably found it boring. At first, I wasn't too keen on it because I found it too slow.
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: TJ Doc on Feb 16, 2010, 01:51:08 PM
A friend of mine has just seen all the Alien films for the first time, and yeah, he found Alien to be boring as well. Naturally, he really enjoyed Aliens, enjoyed Alien Cubed "for the most part" but preferred Resurrection over it since he liked its characters more.

Understandable I suppose, but I'd be interested to see if his views change over time. I don't think he's seen A3's assembly cut yet, so that might have an impact (it certainly did for me).
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: ShadowStalker on Feb 17, 2010, 11:41:53 PM
Alien Cubed? whats that one? and for me it be Alien loved the creepy feel it had to it, scared crap out of me. Still does today sometimes lol
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: TJ Doc on Feb 18, 2010, 12:11:34 AM
Lol, note the 3.  ;)

(https://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.hardevidencemagazine.com.au%2Falien3.jpg&hash=9b982523b67afb7c310b0063d103e136f944ce5a)

Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: SpaceMarines on Feb 18, 2010, 04:43:06 AM
AlienxAlienxAlien?
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: TJ Doc on Feb 18, 2010, 06:54:18 PM
Exactly.  8)
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Post by: SpaceMarines on Feb 18, 2010, 11:18:34 PM
That would be Alien squared times more awesome than Alien!
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: Shobidoo on Feb 21, 2010, 09:58:06 PM
Here is my order,Aliens,Alien,Alien Res,Alien 3.
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: Keg on Feb 23, 2010, 07:45:08 PM
This is really hard because I love the first 3 movies and I even think Resurrection is quite good apart from its ending which really ruins the movie.

I'll give them ratings so you can see just how much i like them in comparison to each other.

Aliens (SE) - 9 (I just bloody love it)
Alien 3 (Assembly Cut) - 8.5 ( I enjoy this almost as much as Aliens but I think Aliens deserves to just pip it)
Alien - 8 (Again theres not much in it for me with the first 3 films in all honesty)
Alien Resurrection - 6 (Starts off well enough and there some great set pieces but the ending ruins it)

Out of interest I would rate the following
AVP - 6.5 (although its complete tosh, its enjoyable tosh and I prefer to watch this over A:R)
AVPR - 4 (I can still watch it and enjoy it for what it is but in context as part of the series its awful)

Predator - 9 (I think its on a par with Aliens)
Predator 2 - 7 (I think it starts badly but gains momentum and redeems itself, the opposite of A:R in a way)
Predators - ? (who knows. im on the fence with this one wether its gonna be a turkey or not)
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: Crainy on Mar 07, 2010, 06:47:11 PM
Ok, here is my list.

The first place goes to alien and aliens.
I cant choose between one of them and they are just to hard to compare, i cant compare a action movie to a horror movie. However, both are masterpieces without flaws.

The next one is an easy pick: Alien Ressurection.
Why? Well, at first i like how the aliens in this movie are fully developed personalities, i truly believe that THIS is the movie which formed the aliens to the thing was they are today. I believe that the aliens are the main characters in this movie. And Ripley, of course. I like the emotinal tention between the aliens and ripley and how it gets somehow emotinal when the newborn dies. However, it has many flaws: At first, its disgusting as hell, most of the script is lame, the human characters are not interesting and the clone idea is somehow weird. Also, it doesnt help that the aliens look like mutated dinosaurs. But, i think its a 6/10 movie.

At the last place comes Alien 3. I hate this movie. I dont like anything about it. The special effects are weak as hell, the script is a pure joke, it completely destroys the point of "aliens" and my toilet has better developed characters. The alien itself is a joke and the violence doesnt save anything, it just makes it worse.
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: Xenokiller on Mar 13, 2010, 02:31:32 AM
Aliens all the way...but i still love all the other movies
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: BlackWaves on Mar 14, 2010, 01:49:30 AM
Aliens for me. Alien and Alien resurrection was good. The only thing about Alien Resurrection that I don't like was the Newborn killing the Queen  :-\
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: Corporal Hicks on Mar 14, 2010, 01:31:14 PM
I still can't decide to this day. I love the original trilogy all the same, all on their own merits.
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: DoomRulz on Mar 14, 2010, 06:18:49 PM
Mine will always be Alien. The most artistic of the four, and the most intense.
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: SpaceMarines on Mar 14, 2010, 07:59:29 PM
Nothing beats a movie that can startle you with a computer turning on. :D
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: TJ Doc on Mar 14, 2010, 08:16:56 PM
Pah! Try Drag Me To Hell. The goddamn title in that was startling!
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: SpaceMarines on Mar 14, 2010, 08:19:07 PM
As I was saying, nothing beats a movie that can startle, even scare you, with a computer turning on.
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: TJ Doc on Mar 14, 2010, 08:22:00 PM
Startling Title > Startling Computer  :P
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Post by: SpaceMarines on Mar 14, 2010, 08:48:10 PM
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Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: TJ Doc on Mar 14, 2010, 08:54:40 PM
Oh.

So that's why you took so long to respond...
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Post by: SpaceMarines on Mar 14, 2010, 08:55:53 PM
Yep. :D
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: ScoobySnax on Mar 14, 2010, 09:52:59 PM
Either Aliens or Alien 3 for me.
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: Lt. Mike Harrigan on Mar 15, 2010, 01:32:08 PM
Is and always will be Alien 3.
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: DoomRulz on Mar 15, 2010, 04:09:43 PM
Quote from: SpaceMarines on Mar 14, 2010, 08:19:07 PM
As I was saying, nothing beats a movie that can startle, even scare you, with a computer turning on.

Bingo. I laugh at myself everytime it happens.
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: Lie on Mar 15, 2010, 06:02:36 PM
Can you imagine what Aliens would have been like without Hicks
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Post by: DoomRulz on Mar 16, 2010, 05:05:30 AM
The same with a different leading man?
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Post by: SpaceMarines on Mar 16, 2010, 02:28:57 PM
Zing!
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: The Hyena on Mar 16, 2010, 04:17:25 PM
Alien Resurrection.  Three reasons.

1) I'm a scientist
2) I loved the colouration of the ship.  A sickly colour, reflecting the experiments.
3) It was the biggest Psychological horror of them all.
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: Omegamorph on Mar 16, 2010, 08:05:51 PM
In order the saga would be

-Aliens
-Alien
-Alien: Resurrection
-Alien3

I love them all though!
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: The Demon on Mar 16, 2010, 09:29:03 PM
I must agree, Alien Resurrection is better than people make it out to be.

But my order would be:

Aliens
Alien3/Alien (can't decide)
Alien Resurrection
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: HitmonTom on Mar 16, 2010, 09:59:41 PM
Alien was the best by far. Was the only one that actually scared me. And had the best suspense and plot out of all of them.
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: Lt. Mike Harrigan on Mar 16, 2010, 10:44:28 PM
Alien 3
Alien
Aliens
Alien: Ressurection
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: SpaceMarines on Mar 16, 2010, 11:05:48 PM
Quote from: HitmonTom on Mar 16, 2010, 09:59:41 PM
Alien was the best by far. Was the only one that actually scared me. And had the best suspense and plot out of all of them.

This. :D
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: Politikon on Mar 17, 2010, 07:24:46 AM
I think I can honestly say I like the first 3 equally as if they were all one long film....

But if I had to narrow it done I'd say the 1st the 3rd and the 2nd.

But I cant say I like 3 MORE than 2 because 3 doesn't make sense unless you see 2 so....

A:R has some brilliant classic moments but it's poorly put together. The comedy, the production, the casting, a lot of the dialogue is intentionally cheesy...and I hate how much they show the monster.
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: Alien³ on Mar 18, 2010, 01:35:41 PM
1st - Alien 3 Assembly Cut
2nd - Aliens Director Cut
3rd - Alien Directors cut
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: predalien27 on Mar 18, 2010, 08:52:28 PM
The ONLY bad thing about the A:3 assembly cut is no queen burster.  :(
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: #6.0 on Mar 19, 2010, 06:07:33 AM
Quote from: The Ultimate Predator on Nov 17, 2006, 11:21:41 PM
Aliens, then Alien, then Alien 3, then Res.



Same.
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: Mus on Mar 19, 2010, 08:46:28 PM
Quote from: The Hyena on Mar 16, 2010, 04:17:25 PM
Alien Resurrection.  Three reasons.

1) I'm a scientist

Am I the only one who finds this funny?
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: DamnBirds on Mar 20, 2010, 07:09:10 AM
It's like choosing between kids with Alien v.s. Aliens.  Alien for the claustrophobic, gothic horror ... Aliens for the terror based sci-fi action thriller.  I choose Aliens for the sheer combo of balls to the wall fun, with great characters, and still that creepy atmosphere of the original ... only amplified by an entire HIVE of Aliens.
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: The Demon on Mar 22, 2010, 07:53:47 PM
Choose my the successful kid and sell the other.
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: Space Invader on Mar 27, 2010, 04:45:03 AM
I like Aliens because Ilike watching movies with human soldiers fighting against extraterrestrials.
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: Hollowhero on Mar 27, 2010, 01:44:48 PM
Quote from: Mus on Mar 19, 2010, 08:46:28 PM
Quote from: The Hyena on Mar 16, 2010, 04:17:25 PM
Alien Resurrection.  Three reasons.

1) I'm a scientist

Am I the only one who finds this funny?

Yes. yes you are.  :)
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: Poltergeist Master on Mar 27, 2010, 04:20:35 PM
I fell asleep watching Aliens for some reason...sooooo...yeah.

Alien
Aliens
Alien3
Alien Resurrection

Basically the order they came out.
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: Subject13 on Mar 29, 2010, 03:23:36 AM
Alien
Alien Resurrection
Aliens
Alien 3
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: DoomRulz on Mar 29, 2010, 06:28:51 AM
Quote from: Mus on Mar 19, 2010, 08:46:28 PM
Quote from: The Hyena on Mar 16, 2010, 04:17:25 PM
Alien Resurrection.  Three reasons.

1) I'm a scientist

Am I the only one who finds this funny?

What's funny about it?
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: Hive Tyrant on Mar 30, 2010, 02:39:45 PM
Quote from: DoomRulz on Mar 29, 2010, 06:28:51 AM
Quote from: Mus on Mar 19, 2010, 08:46:28 PM
Quote from: The Hyena on Mar 16, 2010, 04:17:25 PM
Alien Resurrection.  Three reasons.

1) I'm a scientist

Am I the only one who finds this funny?

What's funny about it?

Any self-respecting scientist would snort and huff at and generally ridicule Resurrection, because the ''science'' in that movie was wonky as all hell.
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: Omegamorph on Mar 30, 2010, 08:12:22 PM
It was very believable in parts (the only part I still don't understand is how they cloned Ripley 200 years later).
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: Lt. Mike Harrigan on Mar 30, 2010, 09:02:07 PM
From blood taken from Fury 161.
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: Omegamorph on Mar 30, 2010, 09:08:01 PM
I know ;D but the blood is still there 200 years later? That's what bugs me.
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Post by: Lt. Mike Harrigan on Mar 30, 2010, 09:14:13 PM
No. I think they just hadn't developed the cloning technology yet. They probably kept it in storage until they had perfected the science.
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: Xenostalker on Mar 31, 2010, 08:14:08 AM
Quote from: The Hyena on Mar 16, 2010, 04:17:25 PM
Alien Resurrection.  Three reasons.

1) I'm a scientist
2) I loved the colouration of the ship.  A sickly colour, reflecting the experiments.
3) It was the biggest Psychological horror of them all.
Resurrection was a joke of a movie that should not of been made in my opinion. I think Ripley's demise after she dropped herself in the furnace would of been a great ending to the Alien franchise. The 4th installment was filled with bad acting, terrible plot, cheesy characters, and overdose of gore, and don't get me started on Winona Ryder, she stuck out like a very sore thumb!
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: DoomRulz on Mar 31, 2010, 03:32:36 PM
Quote from: OmegaZilla on Mar 30, 2010, 09:08:01 PM
I know ;D but the blood is still there 200 years later? That's what bugs me.

Yup. DNA can last for quite some time if it's stored properly. And given the film was way into the future, it's possible they have new ways of preserving the stuff.
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: Mus on Apr 03, 2010, 06:20:41 PM
Quote from: Hive Tyrant on Mar 30, 2010, 02:39:45 PM
Quote from: DoomRulz on Mar 29, 2010, 06:28:51 AM
Quote from: Mus on Mar 19, 2010, 08:46:28 PM
Quote from: The Hyena on Mar 16, 2010, 04:17:25 PM
Alien Resurrection.  Three reasons.

1) I'm a scientist

Am I the only one who finds this funny?

What's funny about it?

Any self-respecting scientist would snort and huff at and generally ridicule Resurrection, because the ''science'' in that movie was wonky as all hell.

That's not really what I mean, I just find the statement humorous. It's like me saying I like Alien because I'm a trucker. I get how interest in science would correlate to enjoying the science aspects in A:R but that sentence just looks cute by itself. :3
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: SM on Apr 06, 2010, 12:46:05 AM
QuoteAny self-respecting scientist would snort and huff at and generally ridicule Resurrection, because the ''science'' in that movie was wonky as all hell.

And anyone with half a brain would snort and huff at anyone who pretended the other films were any different.
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: SiL on Apr 06, 2010, 12:47:50 AM
Unless they were snorting and huffing glue.
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: DamnBirds on Apr 09, 2010, 09:25:04 PM
Quote from: Xenostalker on Mar 31, 2010, 08:14:08 AM
Quote from: The Hyena on Mar 16, 2010, 04:17:25 PM
Alien Resurrection.  Three reasons.

1) I'm a scientist
2) I loved the colouration of the ship.  A sickly colour, reflecting the experiments.
3) It was the biggest Psychological horror of them all.
Resurrection was a joke of a movie that should not of been made in my opinion. I think Ripley's demise after she dropped herself in the furnace would of been a great ending to the Alien franchise. The 4th installment was filled with bad acting, terrible plot, cheesy characters, and overdose of gore, and don't get me started on Winona Ryder, she stuck out like a very sore thumb!
The sacrifice of Ripley in Alien 3 is truly heroic act, and is one of my favorite scenes of the franchise.  But the franchise's true ending should've been the very last scene of Aliens.  Period.  The rest is moot.
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: Race_of_Hunters on Apr 13, 2010, 06:14:31 AM
Alien / Aliens.  Interchangable for me.  There are both such different styles of cinema, yet both concepts are both so strong.  Aliens is very different from the claustrophobic horror of the original, and instead replaces it with spacious terror through sheer numbers of the creatures.  Aliens built so strongly off the first film, does its own thing while honoring the concepts of the first movie and even the beats and guidlines of the first film.  Alien is just pure sheer horror.  It's the epitome of sci fi horror.  But Aliens is this dark, twisted action epic.  I think the sequel is more fun, but the first is very frightening.  I voted for Aliens sheerly because at the end of the day I can watch it anytime and be entertained, as opposed to having to be in the mood to watch Alien.
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: The PredBen on Apr 13, 2010, 05:52:34 PM
Who cares if that person likes A:R I found it as watchable as Aliens.

For me ( i've probably done this a while ago. ) it goes:

Alien 3
Alien
Aliens
A:R ( it was close.)

I honestly don't like A:R or Aliens really.
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: Lt. Mike Harrigan on Apr 13, 2010, 06:44:58 PM
Alien
Alien 3
Aliens
Alien: Resurrection
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: AVPVT Extinction on Apr 14, 2010, 11:27:14 AM
For me, my favorite Alien movie has to be the first one.
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: Big_BLACK on Apr 17, 2010, 01:32:14 AM
Aliens
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: Valaquen on Apr 19, 2010, 05:35:42 PM
ALIEN/ALIENS
Then, Alien3 assembly cut.
There are no other Alien films for me.
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: MrBrokenTusks. on Apr 19, 2010, 05:55:28 PM
Aliens or Alien3
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: Rockybear on Apr 20, 2010, 07:09:50 PM
aliens
alien
alien resurrection
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: botched on May 02, 2010, 09:19:42 PM
Alien 3 (for Gothic horror and a dreadful ending).

Alien (For production design,the combining of terror with sexuality).   

Alien resurrection ( For Fun with the french)

Aliens ( I admire James Cameron, Avatar, Titanic,  But even my favorite of his films The Terminator is a rip of of Harlan Ellison and the Grandfather paradox. ALIENS is a ripoff of Robert A. Heinlein's novel, Starship Troopers
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: DoomRulz on May 03, 2010, 03:38:09 AM
Fun with the French? The director was French, but it had no bearing on the film.
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: SM on May 03, 2010, 03:55:22 AM
Well other than his more European style being stamped on the flick.

And how is Aliens a "rip off" of Starship Troopers?  It's been a while since I read it, but it didn't strike at all to be like Aliens in terms of the plot.
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: SpaceMarines on May 03, 2010, 03:57:34 AM
It drew inspiration from Starship Troopers. If your calling it a rip, you might as well call it a rip of The Forever War as well.
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: Valaquen on May 03, 2010, 02:13:07 PM
Quote from: botched on May 02, 2010, 09:19:42 PM
Aliens ( I admire James Cameron, Avatar, Titanic,  But even my favorite of his films The Terminator is a rip of of Harlan Ellison and the Grandfather paradox. ALIENS is a ripoff of Robert A. Heinlein's novel, Starship Troopers.
The Terminator shares 3 similarities with an Ellison story: 1) future warriors, 2) time travel, 3) appearance in an alley after travelling through time. That's it. AI, human resistances, future saviours, predestination paradox, the importance of one life, etc. all absent in Ellison's 'Soldier'. Contrary to 'net talk, Cameron never went to court over The Terminator. Ellison threatened to sue, and Orion Pictures balked and gave him a credit, which Cameron has contested to this day. Ellison did not invent sci-fi, time travel stories, or future warriors. The paradox in T1 is 'predestination,' not 'grandfather'. http://www.jamescamerononline.com/Ellison.htm

Aliens and Starship Troopers, ST was used as a manual for how space marines would act. I think some people think of the ST movie whenever it's mentioned, despite the decade between both movies. Aliens is no more a ST ripoff than Alien is a ripoff of numerous 50's alien movies. Both Alien and Aliens surpass their influences.
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: bleau on May 04, 2010, 07:03:55 AM
Aliens
Alien3
Alien ans Alien resurrection the same.
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: Shobidoo on May 05, 2010, 12:56:36 AM
Quote from: bleau on May 04, 2010, 07:03:55 AM
Aliens
Alien3
Alien ans Alien resurrection the same.
Why did you not like alien?  ::)
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: DoomRulz on May 05, 2010, 01:56:12 AM
Because he didn't like it, mayhaps?
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: SM on May 05, 2010, 02:10:44 AM
Naaah, can't be that.

QuoteIt drew inspiration from Starship Troopers. If your calling it a rip, you might as well call it a rip of The Forever War as well.

Quite.  Inspiration is one thing.  Calling it a rip off is something else.
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: DoomRulz on May 05, 2010, 02:24:15 AM
You're right. Who am I to suggest he has an opinion :P
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: MrBrokenTusks. on May 05, 2010, 03:43:25 PM
Opions rule p.s aliens is best FACT ;)
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: Shobidoo on May 05, 2010, 08:47:05 PM
Quote from: DoomRulz on May 05, 2010, 01:56:12 AM
Because he didn't like it, mayhaps?
I will rephrase my question to, why did you not like it.
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: botched on May 06, 2010, 06:20:24 AM
Aliens: is the worst film when it comes to production value. 

In Alien the miniatures are convincing, the creature is well crafted, and the atmosphere is beautifully creepy.

The Aliens miniatures look like small toys, the creatures are obviously stunt men in pajamas and the environment looks like shit.
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: SpaceMarines on May 06, 2010, 09:23:02 PM
I found the visuals quite convincing in Aliens.
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: MrBrokenTusks. on May 06, 2010, 09:24:01 PM
Some of the suit and puppet work was beat-end by alien but it is obvious why
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: Omegamorph on May 07, 2010, 12:03:24 PM
Quote from: SpaceMarines on May 06, 2010, 09:23:02 PM
I found the visuals quite convincing in Aliens.
So did I. And if we see MAN IN SUITS LOL!!! Remember that, for the love of me, it's damn 1986. Think about AvPR when you want to talk about failed innovation.
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: Lt. Mike Harrigan on May 07, 2010, 01:32:33 PM
Quote from: OmegaZilla on May 07, 2010, 12:03:24 PM
Quote from: SpaceMarines on May 06, 2010, 09:23:02 PM
I found the visuals quite convincing in Aliens.
So did I. And if we see MAN IN SUITS LOL!!! Remember that, for the love of me, it's damn 1986. Think about AvPR when you want to talk about failed innovation.

Amen!
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: Alien³ on May 07, 2010, 08:38:15 PM
Quote from: botched on May 06, 2010, 06:20:24 AM
Aliens: is the worst film when it comes to production value. 

In Alien the miniatures are convincing, the creature is well crafted, and the atmosphere is beautifully creepy.

The Aliens miniatures look like small toys, the creatures are obviously stunt men in pajamas and the environment looks like shit.


Were you awake during the entire queen sequence?! God!
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: MrBrokenTusks. on May 07, 2010, 08:39:10 PM
Queen sequence was pure win!!
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: Omegamorph on May 08, 2010, 08:24:41 PM
Quote from: MrBrokenTusks. on May 07, 2010, 08:39:10 PM
Queen sequence and entire film was pure win!!
Fix'd. :D
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: MrBrokenTusks. on May 08, 2010, 08:26:14 PM
I know the only reason I singled the queen sequence out is because there on about the miniatures in aliens
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: Omegamorph on May 08, 2010, 08:32:57 PM
I know. All what regards the Queen was made by pure geniouses. 8)
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: Vulhala on May 09, 2010, 06:22:50 PM
Quote from: botched on May 06, 2010, 06:20:24 AM
Aliens: is the worst film when it comes to production value. 

In Alien the miniatures are convincing, the creature is well crafted, and the atmosphere is beautifully creepy.

The Aliens miniatures look like small toys, the creatures are obviously stunt men in pajamas and the environment looks like shit.

STFU & GTFO
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: DoomRulz on May 10, 2010, 04:43:30 AM
Vulhala, watch it.
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: MrBrokenTusks. on May 10, 2010, 04:33:53 PM
Some of the warriors do look bad I'll give him that but the queen was amazing.
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: Glazy on May 17, 2010, 12:44:17 PM
I like the films in the order they were made, Alien being a 10/10, Aliens being a 9.5/10, Alien 3 a 6/10 and Alien Resurrection being a 3/10
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: Omegamorph on May 17, 2010, 12:44:47 PM
Welcome to the Galaxy Glazy ;)
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: Vulhala on May 17, 2010, 12:53:02 PM
He won't last long if he repeats that 6/10 for A3  >:(
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: SpaceMarines on May 17, 2010, 01:21:32 PM
Now, now, be nice to the fresh meat- erm, I mean, newcomer. Yes. Newcomer. Heh, heh, heh.
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: Lt. Mike Harrigan on May 17, 2010, 01:40:37 PM
Quote from: Vulhala on May 17, 2010, 12:53:02 PM
He won't last long if he repeats that 6/10 for A3  >:(

I declare him an OUTLAAAAAAAAAAAAAAW!
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: Tangakkai on May 17, 2010, 01:43:14 PM
Aliens is by far the best movie in the franchise... every minute of that film is pure genious and it remains a nailbiter until the end!
I love how they turned the horror basics from Alien into a fast paced and thrilling action Movie like Aliens.

To be honest, I don't really care much about the rest of the films...

Aliens: 10/10 Alien : 7/10 (but actually only because in that film the alien creature is invented with all it's concepts and ideas behind it...

and the rest well simply have no high opinion on them... In my opinion the Alien franchise should have ended with Aliens... every move afterwords has been worse... and some things that follow are just plainly stupid and make no sense:

Alien 3: Why the hell do you set the film on a planet, where it's impossible to have a little girl (Newt) as a supporting character... and then just killing her off with Hicks straight from the start... come on that's just bullshit! There was so much potential in the Hicks & Newt together with Ripley... it angers me to this day that it was never given any chance......

To be honest, the reason why I hate alien 3 so much, is because it destroyed everything about the end of Cameron's Aliens... You get to sympathize with wonderful characters in Aliens and then slash: in the sequel you're again were you left off after the first movie... su utter crap!!!

and Alien Rez... well 2 things ruin it: Cloned Ripley & Newborn Creature...
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: Vulhala on May 17, 2010, 01:46:14 PM
As I said in a different thread, Hicks & Newt would have been redundant in A3.
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: Valaquen on May 17, 2010, 02:19:06 PM
Quote from: Vulhala on May 17, 2010, 01:46:14 PM
As I said in a different thread, Hicks & Newt would have been redundant in A3.
Ripley was redundant in Alien3. Her character was stripped and made odd decisions that didn't seem indicative of the Ripley from the previous two films. She slept with a prisoner right after Newt and Hicks' funeral, despite 1) not actually knowing Clemens, 2) knowing that she was on a prison for murderers, rapists, and child molesters, and that he was a prisoner there. Alien 3 stripped her of her life, but that had already happened in Aliens. She lost her crew mates, her daughter, very likely everyone she ever knew was dead, she also lost her job, her reputation, integrity. Alien 3 puts her in the exact same position as the previous movie. How many times can you wake up with an Alien over you? It becomes redundant, and the diminishing returns begin.
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: MadassAlex on May 17, 2010, 03:17:04 PM
Ripley was an interesting character in A3.

Very independent and strong without being overly boisterous. She asserted herself calmly and confidently, as per the Ripley we already knew. Her grief and shock over losing the only two people she could call friends can account for some of the thing she did, but for all that, she was remarkably well-composed.

In fact, I think A3 has the best characterisation.

As for A2, it was probably the strongest film as a piece of entertainment, but it lacks the depth that make A1 and A3 interesting to watch time after time. There was a lot of cool stuff, but once you've seen that cool stuff, it's done, stick a fork in it.

A2 was really damaging, too, due to the imitators when it came to comics. What was a potentious comic series turned out to be boring, dull and derivative. A2 itself was quality, of course, but its popularity caused it to become the standard for the franchise, rather than the much more interesting A1. A1 is waiting three hours for a prawn curry at a top-notch restaurant. A2 is getting McDonald's at midnight having eaten nothing since you got up at 8am. I sure as f**k enjoyed that McDonald's, make no mistake, but the prawn curry was to die for (and lingered longer).
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: TJ Doc on May 17, 2010, 03:22:54 PM
Good post, but -

Quote from: MadassAlex on May 17, 2010, 03:17:04 PM
a prawn curry

Ewwww...
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: Valaquen on May 17, 2010, 03:35:24 PM
Quote from: MadassAlex on May 17, 2010, 03:17:04 PM
Ripley was an interesting character in A3.

Very independent and strong without being overly boisterous. She asserted herself calmly and confidently, as per the Ripley we already knew. Her grief and shock over losing the only two people she could call friends can account for some of the thing she did, but for all that, she was remarkably well-composed.
For the emboldened, that Ripley was portrayed in Aliens, the destruction of her life and her conflict with that was resolved. Alien 3 seemed to re-examine that. She was odd, ready to sleep with a potential child molester/murderer/rapist within hours of knowing him, and quite ready to have herself killed before setting after the Alien. I just didn't want to see Ripley again, for me, she was done. Using her again would be to risk redundancy or unnecessary repetition. I would rather have had a new character, something totally fresh.

QuoteAs for A2, it was probably the strongest film as a piece of entertainment, but it lacks the depth that make A1 and A3 interesting to watch time after time. There was a lot of cool stuff, but once you've seen that cool stuff, it's done, stick a fork in it.
That could be subjective, Alex. For me, the mother-daughter dynamic represented by both Ripley/Newt and the Queen and her children, Ripley's arc, the archetypal yet likable marines, the drags of suspense and flashes of action, all keep me going back to Aliens over Alien3, with its blank Alien victims and franchise inconsistencies. Alien 3 looks beautiful and interesting, but it can't drag me for repeat viewings. To aggregate my friends opinions, we all watched Alien3 and it just didn't put any of us through the creepiness, beauty, and horror of Alien, and didn't put us through the suspense, excitement, or terror of Aliens. It was a very subdued affair.

QuoteA2 was really damaging, too, due to the imitators when it came to comics. What was a potentious comic series turned out to be boring, dull and derivative. A2 itself was quality, of course, but its popularity caused it to become the standard for the franchise, rather than the much more interesting A1.
I can't blame a band for their imitators, and can't blame Aliens for its comic series, or the myriad of their writers. It's like saying wet streets cause rain.

QuoteA1 is waiting three hours for a prawn curry at a top-notch restaurant. A2 is getting McDonald's at midnight having eaten nothing since you got up at 8am. I sure as f**k enjoyed that McDonald's, make no mistake, but the prawn curry was to die for (and lingered longer).
I don't like either McD's or prawn curry... Maybe Alien is a steak and Aliens is a takeaway? I love takeaways  ;)
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: MrBrokenTusks. on May 17, 2010, 03:48:53 PM
I love takeaways  ;)
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: MadassAlex on May 17, 2010, 04:04:17 PM
Three major points:

1. Note that, at this point, Ripley hadn't gotten any in over 50 years. She'd also trusted Clemens with her body beforehand.

Besides, imagine not getting any for 50 years. Man.

2. A3 was a character drama with an Alien, essentially. Watching it under that framework makes it a lot more effective. It certainly has its flaws as a monster movie, but of all the films, the characters themselves are the most interesting. Ripley is now a fully-developed character rather than an archetype or an archetype subversion.

3. Prawn curry is incredible, seriously. I am disappoint, you guys.
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: Tangakkai on May 17, 2010, 04:05:20 PM
QuoteA2 was really damaging, too, due to the imitators when it came to comics. What was a potentious comic series turned out to be boring, dull and derivative. A2 itself was quality, of course, but its popularity caused it to become the standard for the franchise, rather than the much more interesting A1. A1 is waiting three hours for a prawn curry at a top-notch restaurant. A2 is getting McDonald's at midnight having eaten nothing since you got up at 8am. I sure as f**k enjoyed that McDonald's, make no mistake, but the prawn curry was to die for (and lingered longer).

This argument is so far fetched... do you seriously want to blame a movie for it's cheap spin offs? It just goes to proof the unique kind of a movie if everybody wants to recreate that feel.
If you would apply this argument to every film, we might as well simply say that movies like Star Wars, Predator, ... are damaging because of the cheap imitations... yeah right -.-

as for the characterisation of Ripley in A3: What characterisations?! I agree with Valaquen here, she's just a totally different person and Aliens was just for an ass... she could have simply gone into hybersleep in Alien and immediately crash and find herself in the situation of Alien 3 without Aliens ever happening... wouldn't be a bad idea if Aliens was a bad movie... but it wasn't!!! It was a great masterpiece and there was no need to throw away the human identity and kill the supporting characters... well yeah Newt and Hicks would have been redundant on a prison planet full of killers and rapists... I know that! But then just don't set it on this planet, make a different story or simply (for me the best solution) just don't touch the franchise anymore...

The continuity was totally broken after Aliens. Breaking continuity is not a bad thing if you simply go into a totally different direction (e.g. Pred 1 and Pred 2) but to sell it as a continuous story and use the same protagonist but killing everyone around him that gave him personality is senseless and for me irritating.

I don't mean to insult anybody who likes Alien 3 after all it's not a bad movie in it self! But for me it was the beginning of the end and destroyed the franchise...
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: MadassAlex on May 17, 2010, 04:17:31 PM
Thing is, you kinda can blame A2 for its spin-offs since it presented a direction that was so far removed from its predecessor that those imitations could've never been inspired by A1. Like it or not, A2 is essentially a major aspect of the EU material that sucked so hard and the reason AvP has been luckluster except for the games. Not that I factor that into criticism of the film itself, but in terms of its franchise context, yeah, it was damaging thematically. There's absolutely no denying that.

As for Ripley, the loss she had at the beginning of A3 characterised her further than the previous films did. In A1, she was a middle-class, attractive white woman with a daughter (that we didn't know of, mind) and a steady job that apparently payed well enough. In A2, she was working-class, considered psychotic and had unresolved maternal issues. In A3, she had nothing to lose -- and yet still felt the desire to protect others from the Alien. When A3 rolls around, Ripley isn't just protecting herself or trying to put her daemons to rest. She goes out of her way and puts herself in danger to save the rest of humanity, beginning with lowlife scum that chose to do the wrong thing.

That is heroic. She frees herself from material and personal trappings to think of the bigger picture and does it with style. A sort of Messianic figure that sacrifices herself amongst sinners to redeem mankind from the mistakes it makes even as the Queen is ready to emerge.

When Ripley throws herself into the fire at the end of A3, she doesn't need a substitute daughter to justify heroism, she doesn't need an alpha-male to enable her warrior-spirit. She simply is a courageous hero in the most classic sense, except we've seen her development to this point and so it's justified.
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: Valaquen on May 17, 2010, 04:29:11 PM
Quote from: MadassAlex on May 17, 2010, 04:04:17 PM
Three major points:

1. Note that, at this point, Ripley hadn't gotten any in over 50 years. She'd also trusted Clemens with her body beforehand.
Well, she was unconscious, wasn't she?

QuoteBesides, imagine not getting any for 50 years. Man.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1075289/No-sex-secret-long-life-says-105-year-old-Clara-Britains-oldest-virgin.html
:o

Quote2. A3 was a character drama with an Alien, essentially. Watching it under that framework makes it a lot more effective. It certainly has its flaws as a monster movie, but of all the films, the characters themselves are the most interesting. Ripley is now a fully-developed character rather than an archetype or an archetype subversion.
It's probably subjectivity on our parts. Alien definitely had the most natural characters, wonderfully portrayed. In A3 I liked Dillon, Golic was mad, and err, Morse was good too. Clemens was wasted and rest were anonymous to me. With Alien and Aliens, I liked everyone, or at least knew their names.

Quote3. Prawn curry is incredible, seriously. I am disappoint, you guys.
Okay, I'll bite, I've never even tasted prawn curry  :P

Quote from: Tangakkai on May 17, 2010, 04:05:20 PM
I don't mean to insult anybody who likes Alien 3 after all it's not a bad movie in it self! But for me it was the beginning of the end and destroyed the franchise...
I can watch Alien 3, assembly cut, and enjoy it, unlike my friends, but I just think that it could and should have been more. I dunno... an Alien rom-com?  :P Of the respected movies (Alien, Aliens, Alien3) it's the most inconsistent, to my eyes.

QuoteIn A3, she had nothing to lose -- and yet still felt the desire to protect others from the Alien. When A3 rolls around, Ripley isn't just protecting herself or trying to put her daemons to rest. She goes out of her way and puts herself in danger to save the rest of humanity, beginning with lowlife scum that chose to do the wrong thing.

That is heroic. She frees herself from material and personal trappings to think of the bigger picture and does it with style. A sort of Messianic figure that sacrifices herself amongst sinners to redeem mankind from the mistakes it makes even as the Queen is ready to emerge.

When Ripley throws herself into the fire at the end of A3, she doesn't need a substitute daughter to justify heroism, she doesn't need an alpha-male to enable her warrior-spirit. She simply is a courageous hero in the most classic sense, except we've seen her development to this point and so it's justified.
There was a point when she discovered she was infected with an Alien, and her response was to kill herself. Understandable, but I got the feeling that she was suckered into helping the prisoners. I don't think she was guaranteed to have her life saved by WY, Bishop II messed that up, "think of what we could learn from it!" Revealed his intentions there. In the end, she had a choice: wait for the Alien to pop out and kill her, let WY remove the Alien and dispose of her, or kill herself and destroy the Xeno. Not really a sacrifice when she had nothing to gain. If WY had legitimately offered her survival, then I could see it as being more and truly heroic. With her development, I think Ripley at the end of Alien would have committed the same act, A3 didn't build that character, it took a step back on her then put her where she started. For me, it was a retread, I can see where some people can appreciate that, it's just that I didn't. Thankfully, with the new Alien movie, there'll be no Ripley.
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: MadassAlex on May 17, 2010, 04:35:16 PM
Thing is, WY probably could've legitimately saved her. 

Once she's free of the Alien inside her, why kill her? No-one will believe her bullshit about an 8-foot-tall space vampire that has acid for blood and is generally unpleasant.

She's also putting herself on the line before she finds out about the Alien, if I remember correctly. Finding it only increased her desperation and the haste with which she decided to act; it didn't actually influence what she did until the very end.
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: Valaquen on May 17, 2010, 04:38:59 PM
Quote from: MadassAlex on May 17, 2010, 04:35:16 PM
Thing is, WY probably could've legitimately saved her. 

Once she's free of the Alien inside her, why kill her? No-one will believe her bullshit about an 8-foot-tall space vampire that has acid for blood and is generally unpleasant.

She's also putting herself on the line before she finds out about the Alien, if I remember correctly. Finding it only increased her desperation and the haste with which she decided to act; it didn't actually influence what she did until the very end.
They could've, but I don't think they would've. Why bother stitching her up and sending her home? They're very black ops regarding the Xeno and she's a liability. Since we don't know what the outcome may have been, I suppose it's moot.
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: Glazy on May 17, 2010, 05:59:27 PM
Quote from: Lt. Mike Harrigan on May 17, 2010, 01:40:37 PM
Quote from: Vulhala on May 17, 2010, 12:53:02 PM
He won't last long if he repeats that 6/10 for A3  >:(

I declare him an OUTLAAAAAAAAAAAAAAW!

And there was me thinking I was being generous !!! :)
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: Drago-Morph on May 23, 2010, 11:32:20 PM
Quote from: MadassAlex on May 17, 2010, 04:17:31 PM
A sort of Messianic figure that sacrifices herself amongst sinners to redeem mankind from the mistakes it makes even as the Queen is ready to emerge.

You make Ripley sound like some sort of female Jesus. Anyway, my order goes as follows.

Alien 3
Alien
Aliens
Alien Resurrection


Now, I would like to say something in defense of Alien 3. Many people seem to think it ruined the ending of Aliens, and that the Aliens ending was a perfect way to end the franchise.

The Alien franchise is about spider crabs that attach to faces, breed by ripping out of someone's chest, is indiscriminate in killing men, women, and children, and whose adult form is an eight foot tall psycho-sexual space monster with a penis for a head.

I want you to say, with a straight face, that a family dynamic going home in what amounts to a happily ever after is a fitting end to a series about what I listed above.

Alien 3 fixed the mistake. It brought us back to the franchise, killing off the happiness moments in and giving us a bittersweet and somewhat cruel end to the franchise.

Alien 3 fixed the mistake of Aliens. It gave us an ending to the Alien franchise, not something that seems to belong in a completely series.

And before I get flamed, I absolutely adored Aliens. It just wasn't a fitting end.
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: SM on May 23, 2010, 11:39:02 PM
QuoteYou make Ripley sound like some sort of female Jesus.

That was the intention.

QuoteThey could've, but I don't think they would've. Why bother stitching her up and sending her home?

More first hand knowledge about the creature than anyone, ever.  I doubt they would've sent her home, but they would've kept her alive for as long as it served their needs.
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: Basher917 on May 24, 2010, 12:47:36 AM
Alien isa little better than aliens while aliens is alot better than alien 3, but alien 3 is still good, a good trilogy
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: DJ Pu$$yface on May 25, 2010, 07:16:12 AM
Aliens. Abosolutely fantastic, it had me scared.
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: StrangeShape on May 27, 2010, 10:52:39 PM
Quote from: Drago-Morph on May 23, 2010, 11:32:20 PM


And before I get flamed, I absolutely adored Aliens. It just wasn't a fitting end.

Which is interesting because Alien and Aliens have identical type of an ending visually and storywise. The story didnt conclude on a positive note - how would it when people are dead and the woman just survived a nightmare - it concluded on semi positive note. The only difference is that this time it had a full resolution to the story, not to an episode. The main character survived. Its like getting burned and being happy that the burns werent life threatening. Its NOT a happy situation. Its a better thing in a horrible situation, not a happy ending. happy ending would be not getting burned or hurt

Both movies end with the same shot. The main character/s survive. Its a bittersweet ending. In Aliens, we get two survivors (who lost their families and everyone they knew btw) and two terribly hurt, barely-survivors, all of whom barely escaped loosing almost everyone else. And wheres the rest of the crew of close to 20? Where are the saved colonists? Where are the marines that happily made it alive? There arent any, because everyone just got wasted by aliens and those who survived are either ripped in half or barely alive and scarred. Only the main-est characters survived safe from a physical standpoint - like in Alien.

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Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: The PredBen on May 27, 2010, 11:06:56 PM
I've said it many a time but Alien 3 is the best ending to the series. In Aliens it left us wondering a whats going to happen next?

While I approve of that feeling I think the Alien series deserved an ending. If we left off with Aliens we still have Weyalnd and Yutani to deal with.

I think Alien 3 did a wonderful job with the ending. Also I can remember the characters of Alien 3 as well as I do those of Alien and Aliens.

Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: SM on May 27, 2010, 11:07:36 PM
Aliens is about Ripley and Newt - their ending is happy one all things considered.  Hicks and Bishop have no arc to speak of and are there to support and (supposedly) work against Ripley.
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: The PredBen on May 27, 2010, 11:16:59 PM
It was a happily ever after ending ( for now ) but it left me wondering " What about Weyland - Yutani?" and Alien 3 was a good ending.

I think many people's gripes with Alien 3 is that it killed off Newt and Hicks and to a lesser degree Bishop. I don't see this as a problem though.
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: StrangeShape on May 27, 2010, 11:23:14 PM
Quote from: SM on May 27, 2010, 11:07:36 PM
Aliens is about Ripley and Newt - their ending is happy one all things considered.

Same can be said about Ripley in Alien. She survived and got the happily ever after treatment (that is when not considering the trauma she mightve experienced after the event but I think its safe to assume the writers didnt think of that)

Quote from: The PredBen on May 27, 2010, 11:16:59 PM
It was a happily ever after ending ( for now ) but it left me wondering " What about Weyland - Yutani?" and Alien 3 was a good ending.

I think many people's gripes with Alien 3 is that it killed off Newt and Hicks and to a lesser degree Bishop. I don't see this as a problem though.

Didnt bother me either. It was a great device in the story and their deaths served it very well, even tho I loved the characters. Rest of the movie was based on what happened in the beginning. Ripley basically got life sucked out of her and became almost a zombie. It affected the way she was thinking and acting. But thats a different topic.

Both Aliens and Alien 3 had more than satisfactory endings imo. Both sealed the deal.
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: SpaceMarines on May 28, 2010, 04:04:08 AM
My main problem with Alien3 is the pacing and the way the scenes just don't seem to flow smoothly from one to the other. I still enjoy the film (I'd give it about 6 to a 6.5/10), but those problems are simply too much to overcome.
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: SM on May 28, 2010, 04:06:37 AM
QuoteSame can be said about Ripley in Alien. She survived and got the happily ever after treatment (that is when not considering the trauma she mightve experienced after the event but I think its safe to assume the writers didnt think of that)

Simply living longer than the Alien was enough for for the first film.  Aliens dealt the psychological scars, which were essentially healed (a bit too neatly) by the end.
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: StrangeShape on May 28, 2010, 04:22:15 AM
Quote from: SM on May 28, 2010, 04:06:37 AM
QuoteSame can be said about Ripley in Alien. She survived and got the happily ever after treatment (that is when not considering the trauma she mightve experienced after the event but I think its safe to assume the writers didnt think of that)

Simply living longer than the Alien was enough for for the first film.  Aliens dealt the psychological scars, which were essentially healed (a bit too neatly) by the end.

Well I dont see it. I mean, the movie got a resolution in the end. One for the danger of the alien species and one for the theme of the psychologically scared Ripley. The resolution is that she overcame her fear and found someone to live for. I dont think its too much of a happy ending, its simply a resolution to the story. Newt's family and all the colonists are still dead and so is almost the entire crew of Sulaco
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: StrangeShape on May 28, 2010, 04:27:34 AM
Quote from: SpaceMarines on May 28, 2010, 04:04:08 AM
My main problem with Alien3 is the pacing and the way the scenes just don't seem to flow smoothly from one to the other. I still enjoy the film (I'd give it about 6 to a 6.5/10), but those problems are simply too much to overcome.

I like the pacing. The movie leans very much towards a straight forward drama in the beginning which is good because you get to know the characters more (Clemens) and you see Ripley's awkward evolution after the accident that killed the others. You also see bonding between her and Clemens and the sorry lives of the scumbags that lived on Fury. I think the movie pull you in so much into Ripley's sad turnaround that when alien appears its really more of a side thing than the main or one of the main elements of the movie. Its an extra danger, but the real and main issue here is Ripley's tragedy. I enjoy it for what it is - a signature Fincher movie, which is a drama thriller

I think the slight shock and change in the feel from the other two movies is caused by the fact that this movie doesnt rely on tension or suspense or horror like the other movies. Its very relaxed, very downbeat and slow. It relies more on our reflections, thinking and pathos
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: SpaceMarines on May 28, 2010, 04:29:13 AM
To each their own. I'm not saying it's bad by any means, simply mediocre to kinda good at best. But again, simply my opinion.
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: SM on May 28, 2010, 04:32:00 AM
The Sulaco crew are really neither here nor there since they had no proper connection with the protagonists.  Ripley and Newt are each others salvation.  They 'can both dream'.  Ergo happy ending.  And "happy ending" isn't necesarily a dirty word either.

And the pacing of Alien3 drags a bit in the first half.
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: Solace on May 28, 2010, 04:35:59 AM
Quote from: StrangeShape on May 28, 2010, 04:27:34 AM
Quote from: SpaceMarines on May 28, 2010, 04:04:08 AM
My main problem with Alien3 is the pacing and the way the scenes just don't seem to flow smoothly from one to the other. I still enjoy the film (I'd give it about 6 to a 6.5/10), but those problems are simply too much to overcome.

I like the pacing. The movie leans very much towards a straight forward drama in the beginning which is good because you get to know the characters more (Clemens) and you see Ripley's awkward evolution after the accident that killed the others. You also see bonding between her and Clemens and the sorry lives of the scumbags that lived on Fury. I think the movie pull you in so much into Ripley's sad turnaround that when alien appears its really more of a side thing than the main or one of the main elements of the movie. Its an extra danger, but the real and main issue here is Ripley's tragedy. I enjoy it for what it is - a signature Fincher movie, which is a drama thriller

I think the slight shock and change in the feel from the other two movies is caused by the fact that this movie doesnt rely on tension or suspense or horror like the other movies. Its very relaxed, very downbeat and slow. It relies more on our reflections, thinking and pathos
I agree and disagree.I liked the pace and overall flow of the film,it just seemed choppy sometimes and some scenes just didn't mesh well with what preceded it.
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: StrangeShape on May 28, 2010, 04:37:41 AM
I agree its slow in the beginning (excluding the crash - funeral), but like I said, its because it was fleshing out the characters I think. It leaned more towards drama in the beginning and later on introduced the thriller element
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: SpaceMarines on May 28, 2010, 04:39:26 AM
The thing is, the character fleshing out didn't really work that well. After my first viewing, the only character name I knew was Ripley. I've now picked up on who Dillon and Clemens are, but none of the other ones stand out for me.
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: StrangeShape on May 28, 2010, 04:40:05 AM
Quote from: SM on May 28, 2010, 04:32:00 AM
They 'can both dream'.  Ergo happy ending.  And "happy ending" isn't necesarily a dirty word either.


I know. Im just saying its not really different from the original movie's ending like one of the posters claimed and that was my point. It got a resolution to the issue, the character(s) went to sleep with the "happily ever after" and "we made it" tone
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: SM on May 28, 2010, 04:41:55 AM
QuoteI've now picked up on who Dillon and Clemens are, but none of the other ones stand out for me.

The only other one that needs to stand out is Aaron.  Everyone else is Alien fodder.
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: StrangeShape on May 28, 2010, 04:42:45 AM
Quote from: SpaceMarines on May 28, 2010, 04:39:26 AM
The thing is, the character fleshing out didn't really work that well. After my first viewing, the only character name I knew was Ripley. I've now picked up on who Dillon and Clemens are, but none of the other ones stand out for me.

I dont know. I think Fincher did great in the character department considering the fact that they all looked the same, therefore making the task even harder. I think the characters are quite fleshed out - Dillon, Clemens, Andrews, 85 and Morse
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: SM on May 28, 2010, 04:58:47 AM
Don't see any particular fleshing out of Andrews and Morse.  Maybe Morse in the last few minutes.
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: StrangeShape on May 28, 2010, 05:04:23 AM
What I mean is that they were both very different from each other and very distinctive at the same time
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: SM on May 28, 2010, 05:06:25 AM
Distinctive, I guess.  But since both characters spent most of their screen being loud and angry, not terribly different.  If Andrews wasn't the warden, they'd almost be identical.
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: DJ Pu$$yface on May 28, 2010, 07:44:09 AM
Why do people seem to hate Alien Ressurection? I watched it, and I loved it! Doesn't beat Aliens, but it comes close. I found the Newborn tragic, especially at the end.
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: StrangeShape on May 28, 2010, 09:12:59 AM
Quote from: Abomination on May 28, 2010, 07:44:09 AM
Why do people seem to hate Alien Ressurection? I watched it, and I loved it! Doesn't beat Aliens, but it comes close. I found the Newborn tragic, especially at the end.

In (very) short:

-its not taking itself seriously
-the Mel brooks humor
-comic book-ish elements that could fit with X-Men, like the superstrong, Holywood tough mutant with superpowers and extra senses ( ::))
-focus is on shooting bad monsters, not on characters (about the only moment is the brief clone room scene, which is ruined anyway by yet another joke in the movie, spoken by Perlman)
-the characters are ridiculously looking and cartoony. They look like circus runaways
-Holywood cheese - the cartoon characters shooting with two guns upside down screaming. Superhero movie all the way
-aliens' mystique and name is ruined. While in other movies they were potrayed as shadowy figures that lure in the dark and are seen only for a split second, here theyre constantly shown full in broad light, and now trapped and trained like puppies
-music
-European style. I dont like French movies and by Jeunet own admission its a European movie with american production
-cinematography. I know the movie is crap but that doesnt mean everything has to be brown
-alien design. I mean Pumpkinhead, cause I havent seen any aliens there. Only Pumpkinheads with heads resembling ladybugs who growl like tigers. Theres no trace of the biomechanical monsters with sexual features like the penis head or vaginas and penises on the torso. Theyre now fleshy, muscular monsters

A:R is not only my most disliked movie with aliens but one of my most disliked movie in general. I even prefer the garbage that AVPR is over this because at least AVPR isnt a half parody with superhumans
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: Tangakkai on May 28, 2010, 12:06:18 PM
QuoteA:R is not only my most disliked movie with aliens but one of my most disliked movie in general. I even prefer the garbage that AVPR is over this because at least AVPR isnt a half parody with superhumans

Alien: Rez at least had decent if not even good acting. Signourney is great and the conflict of her deciding either to be an Alien or a human is something fairly new and fresh to the Alien Series (something it needed desperately after Alien 3). Ron Perlman lifts any movie up because of his unique style of acting. If he has some stupid quotes or scenes i'ts not his fault, he simply does what he is asked to do... and he does that outstandingly!

As far as the comcial elements. Again it brings fresh wind after the monotone Alien 3. It stands out and is unique in it's way. The visual style is as a matter of fact one of the best and would have really suited the franchise if it weren't for the to mammal looking Aliens (I agree with you on that one).

But seriously... AVP:R had nothing... to name that film in the same sentence like any Alien film is a crime...

Yet again, I have to say, I wish that the Alien Franchise would have ended with Cameron's Aliens.
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: Basher917 on May 28, 2010, 12:10:04 PM
Quote from: Tangakkai on May 28, 2010, 12:06:18 PM
QuoteA:R is not only my most disliked movie with aliens but one of my most disliked movie in general. I even prefer the garbage that AVPR is over this because at least AVPR isnt a half parody with superhumans

Alien: Rez at least had decent if not even good acting. Signourney is great and the conflict of her deciding either to be an Alien or a human is something fairly new and fresh to the Alien Series (something it needed desperately after Alien 3). Ron Perlman lifts any movie up because of his unique style of acting. If he has some stupid quotes or scenes i'ts not his fault, he simply does what he is asked to do... and he does that outstandingly!

As far as the comcial elements. Again it brings fresh wind after the monotone Alien 3. It stands out and is unique in it's way. The visual style is as a matter of fact one of the best and would have really suited the franchise if it weren't for the to mammal looking Aliens (I agree with you on that one).

But seriously... AVP:R had nothing... to name that film in the same sentence like any Alien film is a crime...

Yet again, I have to say, I wish that the Alien Franchise would have ended with Cameron's Aliens.

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so what about good acting?
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: Tangakkai on May 28, 2010, 12:13:15 PM
Oh come on, you would also look like that if you where in a choke-hold :D
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: Basher917 on May 28, 2010, 12:25:21 PM
Quote from: Tangakkai on May 28, 2010, 12:13:15 PM
Oh come on, you would also look like that if you where in a choke-hold :D

what choke-hold?  ;D
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: Tangakkai on May 28, 2010, 12:50:29 PM
Quote from: Basher917 on May 28, 2010, 12:25:21 PM
Quote from: Tangakkai on May 28, 2010, 12:13:15 PM
Oh come on, you would also look like that if you where in a choke-hold :D

what choke-hold?  ;D

Okay Okay... you won this round  :D

Still I'm gonna stick with this: AVP:Rez acting was lightyears ahead of what we saw in AVP:R ... not that this would be a challenge though... -.-

I mean you must agree that the whole "hired-guns" crew was quite believable... and the sick professor who tries to kiss the alien also had his moments...
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: TJ Doc on May 28, 2010, 01:25:17 PM
Quote from: StrangeShape on May 28, 2010, 09:12:59 AM
-music

Hey! The soundtrack was good.
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: SpaceMarines on May 28, 2010, 02:19:38 PM
Quote from: Tangakkai on May 28, 2010, 12:50:29 PM
AVP:Rez

You sure about that? :)



I didn't hate Resurrection. It was an okay film, the worst of the Alien series, but definitely not a terrible movie.
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: DoomRulz on May 28, 2010, 10:01:27 PM
No, it really was. 

"I can get you off. Maybe not the boat..." >_<
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: SpaceMarines on May 29, 2010, 01:04:09 AM
Whatever. The only terrible film associated with this site (in my opinion) would be that film.
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: Skinner on May 29, 2010, 01:17:12 AM
Quote from: SpaceMarines on May 29, 2010, 01:04:09 AM
Whatever. The only terrible film associated with this site (in my opinion) would be that film.
(https://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg39.imageshack.us%2Fimg39%2F4072%2Favprf.jpg&hash=8406e193437ee42f17ed5bbee7fa723aa452b718)
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: SpaceMarines on May 29, 2010, 01:28:30 AM
*throws holy water*

THE SPIRIT OF CHRIST COMPELS YOU! THE SPIRIT OF CHRIST COMPELS YOU!
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: Basher917 on May 29, 2010, 02:15:16 AM
Quote from: Tangakkai on May 28, 2010, 12:50:29 PM
Quote from: Basher917 on May 28, 2010, 12:25:21 PM
Quote from: Tangakkai on May 28, 2010, 12:13:15 PM
Oh come on, you would also look like that if you where in a choke-hold :D

what choke-hold?  ;D

Okay Okay... you won this round  :D

Still I'm gonna stick with this: AVP:Rez acting was lightyears ahead of what we saw in AVP:R ... not that this would be a challenge though... -.-

I mean you must agree that the whole "hired-guns" crew was quite believable... and the sick professor who tries to kiss the alien also had his moments...

kiss? that guy whas half insane, he could be trying to mate with it for all we know
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: StrangeShape on May 29, 2010, 04:49:21 AM
Dont get me wrong, Im not saying I like AVPR, im not insane.

Im just saying that an abomination like AVPR even has a slight advantage because at least it tries to be serious and doesnt have superhumans from X-Men, John McClaine and a rock band in it. Not to mention the Pirates of the Carribean in that movie werent afraid at all. Even the gunho marines looked like they saw a ghost the entire time after the first encounter and were sweating from fear and tension. Even the big bad bold rapists and murderers were painting their pants brown once things got dicy. Yet here the tough guys who look like they escaped from a Mad max movie dont seem to care much

Its all everyones preference. I could go on forever about how much I hate A:R but I dont really want to because I dont like discussing something I dislike or dont care for at all. A:R may not be the worst movie ever, but its a terrible ALIEN movie. The same premise would be fantastic (genetic experiments, aliens breaking free in labolatories etc) and could be really horrific but with a different script, approach and a great director that would handle such subject very well, like David Cronenberg for example.

They couldve leave the original beginning with the bug in, that way everyone would know right away how "serious" and intelligent this movie's going to be and I wouldnt have to sit through it in theaters
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: PredalienXenomorph on May 29, 2010, 04:59:38 AM
Quote from: Abomination on May 28, 2010, 07:44:09 AM
Why do people seem to hate Alien Ressurection? I watched it, and I loved it! Doesn't beat Aliens, but it comes close. I found the Newborn tragic, especially at the end.
The newborn was tragic. A tragedy that stopped the Alien series and contributed to a piss poor Alien movie. Laser guns, cloning, human-alien abominations, what the hell?*And please restrain from posting their problems with AVP:R as a response to this post(I am looking at you two SpaceMarine and TJ Doc)
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: XenoVC on May 29, 2010, 05:06:08 AM
Quote from: DoomRulz on May 28, 2010, 10:01:27 PM
No, it really was. 

"I can get you off. Maybe not the boat..." >_<

"People are dying,we need guns."

<3
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: SpaceMarines on May 29, 2010, 05:07:48 AM
Quote from: PredalienXenomorph on May 29, 2010, 04:59:38 AM
Quote from: Abomination on May 28, 2010, 07:44:09 AM
Why do people seem to hate Alien Ressurection? I watched it, and I loved it! Doesn't beat Aliens, but it comes close. I found the Newborn tragic, especially at the end.
The newborn was tragic. A tragedy that stopped the Alien series and contributed to a piss poor Alien movie. Laser guns, cloning, human-alien abominations, what the hell?*And please restrain from posting their problems with AVP:R as a response to this post(I am looking at you two SpaceMarine and TJ Doc)

Why would I do that? We're discussing Resurrection, not that film.
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: DoomRulz on May 29, 2010, 06:16:37 AM
Quote from: XenoVC on May 29, 2010, 05:06:08 AM
Quote from: DoomRulz on May 28, 2010, 10:01:27 PM
No, it really was. 

"I can get you off. Maybe not the boat..." >_<

"People are dying,we need guns."

<3

Your point being?
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: DJ Pu$$yface on May 29, 2010, 06:17:20 AM
Quote from: PredalienXenomorph on May 29, 2010, 04:59:38 AM
Quote from: Abomination on May 28, 2010, 07:44:09 AM
Why do people seem to hate Alien Ressurection? I watched it, and I loved it! Doesn't beat Aliens, but it comes close. I found the Newborn tragic, especially at the end.
The newborn was tragic. A tragedy that stopped the Alien series and contributed to a piss poor Alien movie. Laser guns, cloning, human-alien abominations, what the hell?*And please restrain from posting their problems with AVP:R as a response to this post(I am looking at you two SpaceMarine and TJ Doc)

Lasar guns and cloning? Whats wrong with that? It has been 257 years since Ripleys own time, which is distant from ours. Cloning hasn't really gotten perfected yet judging by the 1-7, but could still be a possible thing then. Alien 5 would have been too much IMO.
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: StrangeShape on May 29, 2010, 06:24:36 AM
Quote from: Abomination on May 29, 2010, 06:17:20 AM
Quote from: PredalienXenomorph on May 29, 2010, 04:59:38 AM
Quote from: Abomination on May 28, 2010, 07:44:09 AM
Why do people seem to hate Alien Ressurection? I watched it, and I loved it! Doesn't beat Aliens, but it comes close. I found the Newborn tragic, especially at the end.
The newborn was tragic. A tragedy that stopped the Alien series and contributed to a piss poor Alien movie. Laser guns, cloning, human-alien abominations, what the hell?*And please restrain from posting their problems with AVP:R as a response to this post(I am looking at you two SpaceMarine and TJ Doc)

Lasar guns and cloning? Whats wrong with that? It has been 257 years since Ripleys own time, which is distant from ours. Cloning has really gotten perfected yet judging by the 1-7. Alien 5 would have been too much IMO.

It may have a plausible explanation but thats not the point. Alien was also in the future and they couldve give them some teleporting devices, lasers or holograms or other stuff like that. The thing is they didnt.Just because they could doesnt mean they should. And they didnt because they wanted this world to be like ours. A "familiar" scifi. And thats the concept that stayed with the alien series for the first 3 movies. Everything is very blue collar and very used and familair. Giving Ripley superpowers and extra senses, giving others lasers and breath identificators (my god...), cloning etc etc turns it into ...well, something completely different. Again, the filmmakers completely missed the mark and didnt know what Alien series is about
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: DJ Pu$$yface on May 29, 2010, 06:30:57 AM
Quote from: StrangeShape on May 29, 2010, 06:24:36 AM
Quote from: Abomination on May 29, 2010, 06:17:20 AM
Quote from: PredalienXenomorph on May 29, 2010, 04:59:38 AM
Quote from: Abomination on May 28, 2010, 07:44:09 AM
Why do people seem to hate Alien Ressurection? I watched it, and I loved it! Doesn't beat Aliens, but it comes close. I found the Newborn tragic, especially at the end.
The newborn was tragic. A tragedy that stopped the Alien series and contributed to a piss poor Alien movie. Laser guns, cloning, human-alien abominations, what the hell?*And please restrain from posting their problems with AVP:R as a response to this post(I am looking at you two SpaceMarine and TJ Doc)

Lasar guns and cloning? Whats wrong with that? It has been 257 years since Ripleys own time, which is distant from ours. Cloning has really gotten perfected yet judging by the 1-7. Alien 5 would have been too much IMO.

It may have a plausible explanation but thats not the point. Alien was also in the future and they couldve give them some teleporting devices, lasers or holograms or other stuff like that. The thing is they didnt.Just because they could doesnt mean they should. And they didnt because they wanted this world to be like ours. A "familiar" scifi. And thats the concept that stayed with the alien series for the first 3 movies. Everything is very blue collar and very used and familair. Giving Ripley superpowers and extra senses, giving others lasers and breath identificators (my god...), cloning etc etc turns it into ...well, something completely different. Again, the filmmakers completely missed the mark and didnt know what Alien series is about

Teleports, laser and holograms might have been expensive or they might have been put out to save energy, reserves. The Ellen Ripley "superpower" thing, I always figured to be a cloning side effect or some connection with the queen.

Alien: Rez felt more "alien" then Alien 3, IMO.
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: StrangeShape on May 29, 2010, 06:37:15 AM
Well, we're just gonna have to agree to disagree. The first 3 alien movies were about Ripley first, Aliens and Alien 3 more specifically. From A:R on it was just about blasting big, fleshy monsters
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: DJ Pu$$yface on May 29, 2010, 06:42:38 AM
Quote from: StrangeShape on May 29, 2010, 06:37:15 AM
Well, we're just gonna have to agree to disagree. The first 3 alien movies were about Ripley first, Aliens and Alien 3 more specifically. From A:R on it was just about blasting big, fleshy monsters

I can agree with the last part, specially AVP:R.
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: Omegamorph on May 29, 2010, 11:51:51 AM
Quote from: Abomination on May 29, 2010, 06:30:57 AM
Alien: Rez felt more "alien" then Alien 3, IMO.
I second this.

Quote from: StrangeShape on May 29, 2010, 06:37:15 AM
Well, we're just gonna have to agree to disagree. The first 3 alien movies were about Ripley first, Aliens and Alien 3 more specifically. From A:R on it was just about blasting big, fleshy monsters
I'd say from AvP. Resurrection was 90% about Ripley, especially if you watch the extended cut.
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: creature creator on May 29, 2010, 12:33:32 PM
her is my list.

1.alien
2.alien 3
3.aliens
4.aliens resurrection

aliens is for me so low because the alien warriors are so small, and really move like stuntman in creature suits, the thing i really like from aliens are the queen and the nest, and thats it for me.

don't get me wrong i like the movie but for a alien movie it just doesn't do it for me, same thing with alien resurrection.

alien and alien 3 really have the good admosphere( sorry for my english), with just one alien in a closed place and that is the way i want to see a alien movie.

JB
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: Valaquen on May 29, 2010, 01:41:39 PM
The Aliens in Aliens are quite tall, as evidenced when one jumps Burke, or the Alien that grabs Dietrich, or by looking at the stunt puppets:

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Seems to match up with:

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Problem is, whilst the stunt Aliens are big, for the suited Aliens they didn't have 7 foot tall stuntmen like Bolaji, so we never see them in scale compared to the actors like we do in Alien. I guess you have to suspend your disbelief a little, but the Warriors weren't intended to be smaller.
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: creature creator on May 29, 2010, 02:47:59 PM
never saw that :D,

but i think than the thing i really hate is there movement, there are just a few scenes were you really believe it is a alien and not a guy in suit. Like the scene in the sewer with newt

JB
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: Valaquen on May 29, 2010, 04:16:58 PM
Quote from: creature creator on May 29, 2010, 02:47:59 PM
never saw that :D,

but i think than the thing i really hate is there movement, there are just a few scenes were you really believe it is a alien and not a guy in suit. Like the scene in the sewer with newt

JB
I dunno, I feel the same for Alien

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(https://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi104.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fm191%2FIzzys88%2Ftumblr_ktmdd6bPJx1qzexpio1_500.jpg&hash=7d127235547ecd0baa29c019f1021d3ed0b52b5e)

But it's just limitations of the time, eh  8) You're right that this is awesome:

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Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: Omegamorph on May 29, 2010, 04:19:04 PM
Quote from: Valaquen on May 29, 2010, 04:16:58 PM
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'Cause Tummy ache hurts.
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: DoomRulz on May 29, 2010, 04:34:01 PM
Wow, the dome looks so freaking transparent in that pic :o
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: StrangeShape on May 29, 2010, 09:54:47 PM
Quote from: creature creator on May 29, 2010, 12:33:32 PM

aliens is for me so low because the alien warriors are so small, and really move like stuntman in creature suits

1. Thats a weird way of judging a movie by the look of the monster instead of the quality of the script, tension, characters and music.

2. That statement is false. Alien warriors are taller and skinnier than Giger's. Im assuming youre talking about the stunt suits which for me is ludicrous. You cant pick the look thats not to be seen and is used for stunt scenes over the intended and proper look and designs. Like Valaquen already posted, the warrior was taller and skinnier than the one from the first movie, continuing Ridely's concept for the inhumanly tall and skinny creature.

(https://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi104.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fm191%2FIzzys88%2F19187672Bx_wdjMso4zS_5pktnGl34C3oWl.jpg&hash=6691a427b62f7ac1046e867c8f5452651596f2e9)(https://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi104.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fm191%2FIzzys88%2Fpicture015-4.jpg&hash=953c47d5209891ef84d56cd1ff0a730b05c569c2)

The only time we see stuntsuits in Aliens is during the Operations attack for 2 frames which is 2/3 of a second if you freeze frame when the strobe light flashes. Aside from Newt scene, you never see them placed next to a person and only see their shadows since Aliens is the movie that shows the least of the alien so the accusations of them being tall are false. Theyre not. As evidenced by fully sculpted hero puppets, theyre taller. And the only time we get a good look at the warrior in Aliens is in the first nest scene when one gets blasted by Vasquez and when one opens APC. And those are the puppets representing the actual look of the warrior. Same goes for Alien. We see the stuntmen very briefly.

And if youre picking the designs that shouldnt and arent seen in the movie because theyre STUNT suits or guys over the intended and official look, than lest be fair and throw the double standard away and complain about the short and big sized alien in the first movie. After all, Bolaji was used only for 3 brief scenes: Closing in on Lambert, looking out behind the corner and getting up after getting gased.

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Or complain about the ultra fat runner

Again, its weird for me that someone takes a look of a stunt thing thats not suppose to be seen as canon over the actual oficial look

Quotealien and alien 3 really have the good admosphere( sorry for my english), with just one alien in a closed place and that is the way i want to see a alien movie
.

In Alien and Aliens the characters were trapped. In Alien they had to figure something out because they didnt have enough means to survive for long without the hypersleep. In Aliens they were trapped and surrounded by those things pounding on walls and ceilings to get to them. In Alien 3 they were in danger only when they chose to be. Nothing would happen to them if they were together in those big halls. They didnt even have to be together, just split into 3 or 4 or sleep in the mess hall or the 'rumor control' hall

Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: SiL on May 29, 2010, 10:01:36 PM
Quote from: StrangeShape on May 29, 2010, 09:54:47 PM
The only time we see stuntsuits in Aliens is during the Operations attack for 2 frames which is 2/3 of a second if you freeze frame when the strobe light flashes.
Every shot that involves an Alien moving is a stunt suit. There were no 'hero suits' for production, they couldn't afford it -- only fully sculpted dummies.

QuoteAnd those are the puppets representing the actual look of the warrior.
Except in the movie they kind'a don't, because we never see one of them in relation to a person.

I agree they're tall and skinny (Not necessarily on the 'taller' part - How big's the guy in your reference picture? They look about the same height.) -- but all you ever see interacting with anything in the movie is stunt guys in stunt suits. It's not hard to see why people get the impression they're shorter and bulkier.
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: StrangeShape on May 29, 2010, 10:09:33 PM
Quote from: SiL on May 29, 2010, 10:01:36 PM
Quote from: StrangeShape on May 29, 2010, 09:54:47 PM
The only time we see stuntsuits in Aliens is during the Operations attack for 2 frames which is 2/3 of a second if you freeze frame when the strobe light flashes.
Every shot that involves an Alien moving is a stunt suit.

I know. Im saying the stunt suit is only visible in few frames from the entire movie. Same goes for the fact that its a stuntmen. Theyre never shown next to a person or in full shot so saying that you see short aliens is simple a lie

Quote]There were no 'hero suits' for production, they couldn't afford it -- only fully sculpted dummies.

Then whats this

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and this

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The hero suits WERE made, only used in the coccoon shot and the photosession

QuoteAnd those are the puppets representing the actual look of the warrior.
Except in the movie they kind'a don't, because we never see one of them in relation to a person.
QuoteAnd those are the puppets representing the actual look of the warrior.
Except in the movie they kind'a don't, because we never see one of them in relation to a person.[/quote]

We do. When once opens APC its bigger than the soldiers. And obviously the finished, fully designed look is the intended one, not black spandex.
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Quote
It's not hard to see why people get the impression they're shorter and bulkier
.

And for me it is. I dont know how you can tell thats someone short or bulky from shots like those..

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that only last split seconds.

Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: Valaquen on May 29, 2010, 10:19:29 PM
The fact that we know the Aliens weren't portrayed by 7foot tall Nigerians can play a part in our perception of them. I always thought they were massive, and I know they're massive, but also knowing that they are portrayed in certain scenes by smaller men jabs at the suspension of disbelief. It was post-Aliens that they became smaller, more hunched creatures. The Runner was smaller out of necessity, I guess, it's a dog (though there are times when the Runner changes size), and the A:R Xeno's were slobbering, hunched, giant cockroaches. Sad to see the design stray so far.
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: StrangeShape on May 29, 2010, 10:21:21 PM
Quote from: Valaquen on May 29, 2010, 10:19:29 PM
The fact that we know the Aliens weren't portrayed by 7foot tall Nigerians can play a part in our perception of them.

It certainly does and same goes for the original Alien. People keep complaining about the absence of 7 foot tall skinny people while in reality Bolaji was used only for 3 shots in the entire movie and the rest was normal sized short guys, one of which you could only see the head.
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: SpaceMarines on May 29, 2010, 10:23:18 PM
Quote from: Valaquen on May 29, 2010, 10:19:29 PM
The Runner was smaller out of necessity

It was a bit larger, actually. The lack-lustre special effects made it seem much smaller, though.
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: TJ Doc on May 29, 2010, 10:25:52 PM
Quote from: StrangeShape on May 29, 2010, 09:54:47 PM
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First Ridley! Now Harry?!

Just what is it with the Alien and surprise buttsecks?
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: SiL on May 29, 2010, 10:37:52 PM
Quote from: StrangeShape on May 29, 2010, 10:09:33 PM
Theyre never shown next to a person or in full shot so saying that you see short aliens is simple a lie
They're seen next to scenery, though.

QuoteAnd for me it is. I dont know how you can tell thats someone short or bulky from shots like those..
that only last split seconds.
Then try looking at the shots from Operations where they're next to tables and filing cabinets.
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: Valaquen on May 29, 2010, 10:42:56 PM
Quote from: TJ Doc on May 29, 2010, 10:25:52 PM
Quote from: StrangeShape on May 29, 2010, 09:54:47 PM
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First Ridley! Now Harry?!

Just what is it with the Alien and surprise buttsecks?

Eyes on Ripley!

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Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: TJ Doc on May 29, 2010, 10:45:50 PM
That fiend!  :o
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: StrangeShape on May 29, 2010, 10:48:04 PM
Quote from: SiL on May 29, 2010, 10:37:52 PM
Quote from: StrangeShape on May 29, 2010, 10:09:33 PM
Theyre never shown next to a person or in full shot so saying that you see short aliens is simple a lie
They're seen next to scenery, though.

QuoteAnd for me it is. I dont know how you can tell thats someone short or bulky from shots like those..
that only last split seconds.
Then try looking at the shots from Operations where they're next to tables and filing cabinets.

And thats still if you freeze frame and really look for it. Sam,e goes for the stunts in alien, you can see them against the scenery or in relation to the shuttle door or dallas if you freeze frame. For me thats just a serious and unhealthy picking

Anyway, for those who are worked up over stunt suits over the actual official look, heres the runner

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Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: Valaquen on May 29, 2010, 10:49:56 PM
Ugly.
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: TJ Doc on May 29, 2010, 10:50:45 PM
Rito Revolto?
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: maledoro on May 29, 2010, 11:02:03 PM
Quote from: StrangeShape on May 29, 2010, 10:48:04 PM
Anyway, for those who are worked up over stunt suits over the actual official look, heres the runner
It doesn't look like it runs any more than any other type of alien...
:-\

;D
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: StrangeShape on May 29, 2010, 11:05:24 PM
Quote from: maledoro on May 29, 2010, 11:02:03 PM
Quote from: StrangeShape on May 29, 2010, 10:48:04 PM
Anyway, for those who are worked up over stunt suits over the actual official look, heres the runner
It doesn't look like it runs any more than any other type of alien...
:-\

;D

Judging by its size it doesnt look like it runs at all!
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: SpaceMarines on May 30, 2010, 05:25:55 AM
Quote from: TJ Doc on May 29, 2010, 10:45:50 PM
That fiend!  :o

Get the police!
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: Mus on May 30, 2010, 06:33:26 PM
Jesus H. Christ, that Runner suit is hideous.
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: SM on May 31, 2010, 12:41:25 AM
One thing about the size.  Even if Alien and human don't share the frame - they never look each other eye-to-eye.  The human is always looking up at the Alien.
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: DoomRulz on May 31, 2010, 02:18:14 AM
Does that mean they just enlarged the suit with the camera?
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: Valaquen on May 31, 2010, 10:17:24 AM
Quote from: DoomRulz on May 31, 2010, 02:18:14 AM
Does that mean they just enlarged the suit with the camera?
Different suits or forced perspective

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Maybe standing on a crate?  :P
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: DoomRulz on May 31, 2010, 04:25:15 PM
Either way, it looks way better in that pic.
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: SM on Jun 01, 2010, 12:14:43 AM
QuoteDoes that mean they just enlarged the suit with the camera?

No they just had the performer standing on box and shot it from a low angle, generally.  And had the victim looking up at where the Alien would be.
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: xJosh on Jun 04, 2010, 10:41:45 PM
I think Ressurection was okay but Aliens was the best.
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: DoomRulz on Jun 05, 2010, 01:26:12 AM
Alien is #1, forever and ever. Without it, Jimbo wouldn't have had a film to smear on.
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: Basher917 on Jun 05, 2010, 01:30:00 AM
Quote from: DoomRulz on Jun 05, 2010, 01:26:12 AM
Alien is #1, forever and ever. Without it, Jimbo wouldn't have had a film to smear on.

yes, ver correct!

Quote from: xJosh on Jun 04, 2010, 10:41:45 PM
I think Ressurection was okay but Aliens was the best.

maybe about the A:R

Quote from: SpaceMarines on May 30, 2010, 05:25:55 AM
Quote from: TJ Doc on May 29, 2010, 10:45:50 PM
That fiend!  :o

Get the police!

lol
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: Valaquen on Jun 05, 2010, 04:28:47 PM
Quote from: DoomRulz on Jun 05, 2010, 01:26:12 AM
Alien is #1, forever and ever. Without it, Jimbo wouldn't have had a film to smear on.
Alien is great solo viewing. My friends (and admittedly, I) always giggle at the cute noise the chestburster makes after erupting from Kane's chest. Aliens is great for when you have a gathering.
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: DoomRulz on Jun 05, 2010, 07:02:45 PM
Oh ya, for real. When I watched it with fluxcap, we started laughing when Ash was making those hilarious squeak noises right before, and after, Parker knocks his head loose.
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: Valaquen on Jun 05, 2010, 07:40:04 PM
Quote from: DoomRulz on Jun 05, 2010, 07:02:45 PM
Oh ya, for real. When I watched it with fluxcap, we started laughing when Ash was making those hilarious squeak noises right before, and after, Parker knocks his head loose.
And also his funny waving arms and the supreme smile his decapitated prop head has when Parker is placing it on the table and burning it. Even Ridley laughed at that. Alas, that's what budget and time does, not to mention limited technical resources. What Alien does for some unintended, minor hilarity, it makes up in terms of mood and doom.
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: King Lordi on Jun 23, 2010, 06:52:09 AM
Aliens
Alien
Alien3
Alien R
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: Lt. Mike Harrigan on Jun 23, 2010, 12:17:26 PM
Alien
Alien 3
Aliens
Alien: Ressurection
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: PredalienXenomorph on Jun 24, 2010, 08:25:29 AM
Why is Alien 3 bolded?
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: Lt. Mike Harrigan on Jun 24, 2010, 08:37:35 AM
Because although it's my favourite, I aknowledge that it's not the best. Alien is.
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: PredalienXenomorph on Jun 24, 2010, 08:39:26 AM
Ahhhh now I get it. My fav is also Alien 3.
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: Lt. Mike Harrigan on Jun 24, 2010, 08:43:51 AM
*high five* ;D
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: Omegamorph on Jun 24, 2010, 09:40:19 AM
I gotta see the Assembly cut. Will it be in the Blu-Ray tetralogy?
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: PredalienXenomorph on Jun 24, 2010, 10:10:43 AM
Quote from: Lt. Mike Harrigan on Jun 24, 2010, 08:43:51 AM
*high five* ;D
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Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: AvatarIII on Jun 24, 2010, 10:55:17 AM
Quote from: OmegaZilla on Jun 24, 2010, 09:40:19 AM
I gotta see the Assembly cut. Will it be in the Blu-Ray tetralogy?

nice avoidance of the made-up word Quadrilogy!
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: SiL on Jun 24, 2010, 10:58:20 AM
The Alien³ Special Edition will be in the new Alien Anthology.
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: Omegamorph on Jun 24, 2010, 11:33:42 AM
Quote from: AvatarIII on Jun 24, 2010, 10:55:17 AM
nice avoidance of the made-up word Quadrilogy!
;D ;D I learned this thanks to IMDB

Quote from: SiL on Jun 24, 2010, 10:58:20 AM
The Alien³ Special Edition will be in the new Alien Anthology.
F**k yeah! Can't wait for it to be finally released. I wonder if they will adjust a bit the effects!
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: Valaquen on Jun 24, 2010, 11:37:12 AM
Quote from: OmegaZilla on Jun 24, 2010, 11:33:42 AM
F**k yeah! Can't wait for it to be finally released. I wonder if they will adjust a bit the effects!
It was mentioned that the actors would be brought in to fix the audio for the reinserted scenes.
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: Omegamorph on Jun 24, 2010, 11:48:23 AM
I mean the actual creature effects. That unnatural green blob around the Alien bugs me.
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: Valaquen on Jun 24, 2010, 11:50:35 AM
Quote from: OmegaZilla on Jun 24, 2010, 11:48:23 AM
I mean the actual creature effects. That unnatural green blob around the Alien bugs me.
Yeah, the rod puppet doesn't look too good.
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: Omegamorph on Jun 24, 2010, 11:55:49 AM
The Puppet was truely amazing:
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It's the compositing that majorly sucked. :-\
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: Valaquen on Jun 24, 2010, 11:57:42 AM
Quote from: OmegaZilla on Jun 24, 2010, 11:55:49 AM
The Puppet was truely amazing:

It's the compositing that majorly sucked. :-\

Yeah, that's what I meant.
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: SiL on Jun 24, 2010, 12:00:40 PM
QuoteF**k yeah! Can't wait for it to be finally released. I wonder if they will adjust a bit the effects!
Finally?

...oh, you mean the actual Assembly Cut. Naw, that's not in it.
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: Omegamorph on Jun 24, 2010, 12:02:30 PM
I mean the Blu-Ray.
So the assembly cut ain't gonna be in the blu-ray? Bad news. Where I can see it then?
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: DoomRulz on Jun 24, 2010, 06:36:35 PM
Quote from: OmegaZilla on Jun 24, 2010, 09:40:19 AM
I gotta see the Assembly cut. Will it be in the Blu-Ray tetralogy?

Not that different from the original film. A few extra scenes that alter the pacing, but only make the film a little more logical.
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: Valaquen on Jun 24, 2010, 06:50:05 PM
OmegaZilla, you haven't seen the assembly cut of Alien3?
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: SM on Jun 24, 2010, 11:22:45 PM
QuoteNot that different from the original film.

Not "that different"??  It's half an hour longer.  Hardly "a few extra scenes".
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: Spider One on Jun 25, 2010, 12:18:06 AM
I like Aliens due to the Colonial Marines.
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: DoomRulz on Jun 25, 2010, 01:06:16 AM
Quote from: SM on Jun 24, 2010, 11:22:45 PM
QuoteNot that different from the original film.

Not "that different"??  It's half an hour longer.  Hardly "a few extra scenes".

I didn't feel as though it contributed anything major. The only scene that really sticks out in my mind was the prisoner letting the Runner out of the contained area and letting it loose.
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: PredalienXenomorph on Jun 25, 2010, 01:37:58 AM
It explained what happened to Golic. The ending suffered however.
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: SM on Jun 25, 2010, 01:44:52 AM
No one cared what happened to Golic in the theatrical cut, because all the earlier scenes that established him as a supporting character got cut.

As for adding anything, it added more depth to Ripley, Golic, Dillon, Aaron and Morse.

Whether this actually improved the film is open to debate.

However it is significantly different to the theatrical cut.
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: Omegamorph on Jun 25, 2010, 11:26:49 AM
Quote from: Valaquen on Jun 24, 2010, 06:50:05 PM
OmegaZilla, you haven't seen the assembly cut of Alien3?
No. :( I have seen only the theatrical cut with the Dog-Burst.
But I do have a doubt - the Special Edition DvDs of the Saga had 2 versions of the film each - I have the "Base" Quadrilogy, so I have only one disc per film. So, techincally, I have 2 versions of Alien3 in the DvD.
How many versions are in total of Alien3?
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: Valaquen on Jun 25, 2010, 12:18:22 PM
Quote from: OmegaZilla on Jun 25, 2010, 11:26:49 AM
Quote from: Valaquen on Jun 24, 2010, 06:50:05 PM
OmegaZilla, you haven't seen the assembly cut of Alien3?
No. :( I have seen only the theatrical cut with the Dog-Burst.
But I do have a doubt - the Special Edition DvDs of the Saga had 2 versions of the film each - I have the "Base" Quadrilogy, so I have only one disc per film. So, techincally, I have 2 versions of Alien3 in the DvD.
How many versions are in total of Alien3?
I don't have the quadrilogy, but two-disc editions of the first three films. On each disc one is the TC and DC of each movie, on disc 2 is bonus materials. So, theoretically, you should have both the TC and DC on one disc. However, if you have the bare bones versions, then you'll only have the TC (or usually in the case of Aliens, only the DC).

Here are the two differing standalone DVD's available in the UK, to my knowledge

Bare bones, theatrical
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Special edition
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The assembly cut on the special edition is my preferred version of Alien3.
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: Omegamorph on Jun 25, 2010, 12:26:46 PM
I have a pack with 4 dvds featuring each 2 versions of the film. One is the TC and the other is a special edition.
As said, how many versions of A3 are out there? For example, Aliens has TC, and SE with added scenes that were cut from the TC.
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: Valaquen on Jun 25, 2010, 12:30:18 PM
Quote from: OmegaZilla on Jun 25, 2010, 12:26:46 PM
I have a pack with 4 dvds featuring each 2 versions of the film. One is the TC and the other is a special edition.
As said, how many versions of A3 are out there? For example, Aliens has TC, and SE with added scenes that were cut from the TC.
So you have the Assembly cut, you've just not watched it?
There are two versions of each film. One TC for each film, and DC for every film except Alien3, since the director did not recut it, so it's therefore the Assembly Cut.
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: Omegamorph on Jun 25, 2010, 12:34:17 PM
Ok, I understand now.
Thought it was a DC, not the AC. I've seen it then, only a lot of time ago. Gotta rewatch it soon then. :)
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: Valaquen on Jun 25, 2010, 12:47:14 PM
Quote from: OmegaZilla on Jun 25, 2010, 12:34:17 PM
Ok, I understand now.
Thought it was a DC, not the AC. I've seen it then, only a lot of time ago. Gotta rewatch it soon then. :)
I find it superior to the TC, though I would trim one scene, where the prisoners decide to go to the furnace. Otherwise -  8)
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: TJ Doc on Jun 25, 2010, 01:41:32 PM
Quote from: Valaquen on Jun 25, 2010, 12:18:22 PM
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Man, those Australian age rating logos are massive! But the ratings board must be pretty hardcore to only give a film as nasty as Alien 3 a 15 rating. 
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: Mus on Jun 25, 2010, 03:00:44 PM
That's the highest rating they have. They're always trying to ban media which would exceed that rating abroad, because they're ultra conservative. They outlawed porn actresses with small breasts because apparently it looks like child pornography.
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: Omegamorph on Jun 25, 2010, 03:04:29 PM
Quote from: Mus on Jun 25, 2010, 03:00:44 PM
They outlawed porn actresses with small breasts because apparently it looks like child pornography.
I declare those OUTLAAAAAAAWS
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: TJ Doc on Jun 25, 2010, 03:06:29 PM
... Okay.  :D

But isn't there an R18+ rating for films? I swear I've seen one on a DVD cover. Although I knew that videogames couldn't get anything above a 15 (which has lead to several bannings).
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: Omegamorph on Jun 25, 2010, 03:09:54 PM
Now that I look at the back of the cover... it says "the Bitch is back" with a Weaver image right next to it... very misleading. :D
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: Mus on Jun 25, 2010, 03:17:29 PM
Oh whaddya know, there is an 18+ rating for movies there. Different standards I take it. I suppose they still view video games as strictly for kids, then.
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: Valaquen on Jun 25, 2010, 06:09:22 PM
Quote from: OmegaZilla on Jun 25, 2010, 03:09:54 PM
Now that I look at the back of the cover... it says "the Bitch is back" with a Weaver image right next to it... very misleading. :D
Evidently, there was a bit of confusion about that:

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Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: DoomRulz on Jun 26, 2010, 05:03:38 AM
Well she is a bitch! Pfft, cussin' and torchin' eggs...who she think she iz??
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: SiL on Jun 26, 2010, 06:44:16 AM
Quote from: TJ Doc on Jun 25, 2010, 01:41:32 PM
Man, those Australian age rating logos are massive! But the ratings board must be pretty hardcore to only give a film as nasty as Alien 3 a 15 rating.
Second highest rating, must have ID before going in. It's not extreme enough for R18+.

Quote from: Mus on Jun 25, 2010, 03:17:29 PM
Oh whaddya know, there is an 18+ rating for movies there. Different standards I take it. I suppose they still view video games as strictly for kids, then.
We have two 18 ratings for movies. There is one guy who refuses to let games have an 18+ rating, and due to some legal bullshit, that means no 18+ rating, period.
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: Omegamorph on Jun 29, 2010, 07:56:50 PM
Quote from: Valaquen on Jun 25, 2010, 06:09:22 PM
Quote from: OmegaZilla on Jun 25, 2010, 03:09:54 PM
Now that I look at the back of the cover... it says "the Bitch is back" with a Weaver image right next to it... very misleading. :D
Evidently, there was a bit of confusion about that:

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Very interested in the others. Link?
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: Valaquen on Jun 29, 2010, 07:59:40 PM
Quote from: OmegaZilla on Jun 29, 2010, 07:56:50 PM
Very interested in the others. Link?
I can't find the article, it's buried under recent news, but here's all the Alien and Predator flicks that made it: http://www.jamescamerononline.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=1981
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: Omegamorph on Jun 29, 2010, 08:01:24 PM
Thanks. Wow Alien is third ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: Valaquen on Jun 29, 2010, 08:03:13 PM
Quote from: OmegaZilla on Jun 29, 2010, 08:01:24 PM
Thanks. Wow Alien is third ;D ;D ;D
It is a pretty fab-tastic tagline  :D
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: Mr. Self Destruct on Jul 06, 2010, 03:04:23 AM
I like them all equally, so I decided which of the Alien creatures I liked best - I chose Alien.
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Post by: PredalienXenomorph on Jul 07, 2010, 09:07:38 AM
Quote from: Commander Shepard on Jul 06, 2010, 03:04:23 AM
I like them all equally, so I decided which of the Alien creatures I liked best - I chose Alien.
Yeah the are all go---- Hold on, You like Alien Rez as much as Alien?
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Post by: Mr. Self Destruct on Jul 07, 2010, 02:03:08 PM
Quote from: PredalienXenomorph on Jul 07, 2010, 09:07:38 AM
Quote from: Commander Shepard on Jul 06, 2010, 03:04:23 AM
I like them all equally, so I decided which of the Alien creatures I liked best - I chose Alien.
Yeah the are all go---- Hold on, You like Alien Rez as much as Alien?

Yes, I mean, certain qualities of Aliens I definitely like better than Resurrection, such as the reproductive system not being all outta whack, and the Queen, and Ripley's badass final confrontation, and there are elements of Resurrection I like better than Aliens, such as the Soundtrack, the concept of a floating laboratory where the Aliens are being experimented on and the "mad scientists" were cool. Also, the way the story was executed was rather nice. Resurrection is an original film. It is different, I think that is why so many people misunderstand it, I, personally, like different, original films.
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Post by: DoomRulz on Jul 07, 2010, 07:14:47 PM
Resurrection is original? You really think the idea of genetic cloning and mad scientists started with that film?
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Post by: Valaquen on Jul 07, 2010, 07:29:30 PM
If anything, it's cliched
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Post by: Corporal Hicks on Jul 07, 2010, 10:01:53 PM
I still can't decide between the original trilogy. They're all brilliant in their own right.  :-\
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Post by: SM on Jul 07, 2010, 11:41:51 PM
QuoteResurrection is original? You really think the idea of genetic cloning and mad scientists started with that film?

As far as Alien films it did.

Besides how many big films dealt with cloning prior to Resurrection apart from Jurassic Park?  It's not like it was an overdone concept or especially cliched.
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Post by: PredalienXenomorph on Jul 08, 2010, 04:15:50 AM
Quote from: SM on Jul 07, 2010, 11:41:51 PM
QuoteResurrection is original? You really think the idea of genetic cloning and mad scientists started with that film?

As far as Alien films it did.
One of the few things I like about Ressurection.
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Post by: Mr. Self Destruct on Jul 08, 2010, 01:30:55 PM
Alien Human hybrids giving birth to crazy monstrocities, other than Species, was quiet original, I liked it.
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Post by: Ogata881 on Jul 11, 2010, 12:36:30 AM
Alien is head and shoulders above the rest.
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Post by: TheCrimsonIdol on Jul 11, 2010, 06:35:12 PM
Aliens > Alien > Alien 3 >>>>>>> Resurrection
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Post by: superdeathpredator on Jul 11, 2010, 07:03:51 PM
Me its
1. Aliens Because I like the army setting more than horror
2.Alien/alien resurrection/Alien 3 tied because I cant choose between these three.
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: Jody=Geek on Jul 12, 2010, 07:46:44 AM
Alien is my favorite. I like all the movies. This is my order.
1. Alien
2. Aliens
3. Alien 3
4. Alien Resurrection
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Post by: PredalienXenomorph on Jul 12, 2010, 07:50:03 AM
That list made me smile.
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Post by: Jody=Geek on Jul 12, 2010, 10:22:08 AM
Quote from: PredalienXenomorph on Jul 12, 2010, 07:50:03 AM
That list made me smile.

Im glad you liked it. That has always been the order of my list.
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Post by: SpaceMarines on Jul 13, 2010, 04:10:29 AM
I agree with that completely.
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Post by: Crazy Joe Davola on Jul 22, 2010, 02:33:36 AM
1. Alien (original or directors cut)

2. Alien 3 assembly  cut

3. Aliens Special Edition

4. Alien Resurrection
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Post by: SpaceMarines on Jul 22, 2010, 02:42:37 AM
Oh god! He's here!

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Post by: #6.0 on Jul 22, 2010, 05:11:58 AM
I like them all, some more than others, for different reasons.

ALIENS

A3

AR

I know ALIEN is not my first, I know i like ALIENS more, but im not sure if i like it better that 3 or not....... or AR, i must watch them again.
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Post by: PredalienXenomorph on Jul 25, 2010, 02:45:38 AM
You posted that pic twice and still can't see it.
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Post by: Omegamorph on Jul 25, 2010, 10:30:27 AM
Copy the url in another window. It works for me.
Anyway it's just a photo of the Resurrection Drone with the Aliens title & tagline pasted.
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Post by: GeorgeCaplin on Jul 25, 2010, 11:37:12 PM
I admit it, my DVD is missing Aliens and Alien 3 (not buying 4) I feel bad as I have P1, P2, ...and even both the two horrible films that we shall not name.

My fav out of the Alien films is Aliens... but the scariest bit for me in all the films was the Tunnel bit in the first one.

Anyway to correct this crime of not owning it I've bought the Definative 2 disc version on play, hopefully it'll be a steel case. One thing it didn't say was what the extra were and if it was the Directors Cut!

Can anyone fill me in?
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Post by: Omegamorph on Jul 26, 2010, 11:26:40 AM
Buy a Blu-ray Player + the Anthology when it comes in October.
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Post by: Celtic Predator 2782 on Jul 30, 2010, 04:42:44 PM
 8) Aliens, Alien Res, Alien" Alien 3
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Post by: Greylock on Aug 02, 2010, 08:18:02 AM
Aliens i love that queen ;D.
Alien 3
Alien
Alien-r
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Post by: samoht on Aug 02, 2010, 08:36:57 AM
ALIENS
ALIEN
ALIEN 3
ALIEN Ressurection.

I like the first two a lot. I only like ALIENS a little bit more than ALIEN.
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Post by: Xenoscream on Aug 02, 2010, 09:16:47 PM
Alien
Aliens
Alien3








Alien Res
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Post by: delsaber8 on Aug 04, 2010, 07:13:39 AM
I love aliens mainly cause of the action.
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Post by: Richardus on Aug 06, 2010, 09:15:44 AM
I love the first three equally in their own right however ALIEN is my favourite .
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Post by: Hive Tyrant on Aug 07, 2010, 01:38:28 PM
Quote from: Commander Richardus on Aug 06, 2010, 09:15:44 AM
I love the first three equally in their own right however ALIEN is my favourite.

Agreed.
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: Keg on Aug 07, 2010, 02:48:26 PM
Im kinda the same. I hold the first 3 films in the same regard but if i was pushed to give an answer id have to say Alien 3 is my favourite. Only just.  :)
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Post by: Ultimate Hunter on Aug 07, 2010, 05:07:20 PM
Alien then daylight then Aliens then the rest....

Seriously Alien is a f***** amazing movie, the other day I had a few drinks after work came home and put it on and it was literally like watching it again for the first time, I was glued to my TV from start to finish, when usually I tend to nod off after having a few. ;D

The atmosphere is unrivalled, the Nostromos is a creepy enough place as it is, (all those sounds... and the lighting ;)) let alone when you have a xenomorph loose onboard! What I like most about it though, is Alien is one of those movies where if you were watching it for the 1st time you genuinely wouldn't know what was going to happen or how it was going to end. Now In Predator you could tell Arnie was going to live from the moment he stepped off the chopper, and same with Royce and Isabella in Preds. But looking back at Alien it's like Dallas is the desiginated main dude for the 1st part of the film with Ripley relegated to playing a supporting character and then all of a sudden it's like " Ohh s*** it just took Dallas!!"

The xenomorph design is also the best in Alien too IMO, I don't see the fascination with ridge heads lately too me the smooth/sleek look is much more terrifying and much more alien.
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Post by: Crayola Ola on Aug 15, 2010, 07:47:02 AM
Quality: Aliens, Alien, Alien3, Alien Resurrection
Personal Opinion: Aliens, Alien, Alien Resurrection, Alien3

I can never forgive Alien3 for what it did...you know what i mean... :'(
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Post by: galaxys ultimate hunter on Aug 15, 2010, 09:11:05 PM
My favorite one is ALIEN.
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Post by: kdog450 on Aug 16, 2010, 09:57:29 PM
Alien,alien3,aliens and last but lest res     


res has to be the worst evar   
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Post by: #6.0 on Aug 17, 2010, 04:52:37 AM
Quote from: kdog450 on Aug 16, 2010, 09:57:29 PM
Alien,alien3,aliens and last but lest res     


res has to be the worst evar   

I wouldn't say that.


Except I would.
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Post by: Alienhunter15 on Aug 19, 2010, 01:40:28 AM
Aliens by James Cameron is my favorite.
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Post by: Slithar on Aug 19, 2010, 07:03:49 PM

[/quote]

Yes, I mean, certain qualities of Aliens I definitely like better than Resurrection, such as the reproductive system not being all outta whack, and the Queen, and Ripley's badass final confrontation, and there are elements of Resurrection I like better than Aliens, such as the Soundtrack, the concept of a floating laboratory where the Aliens are being experimented on and the "mad scientists" were cool. Also, the way the story was executed was rather nice. Resurrection is an original film. It is different, I think that is why so many people misunderstand it, I, personally, like different, original films.
[/quote]

I dunno why this guy was banned but he's pretty right !
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Post by: DrGediman on Aug 20, 2010, 02:20:20 AM
I love all the Alien films.  I wouldn't change a thing about them.  The first Alien is the best, however.
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Post by: PredalienXenomorph on Aug 20, 2010, 09:15:47 AM
Quote from: Slithar on Aug 19, 2010, 07:03:49 PM

Quote

Yes, I mean, certain qualities of Aliens I definitely like better than Resurrection, such as the reproductive system not being all outta whack, and the Queen, and Ripley's badass final confrontation, and there are elements of Resurrection I like better than Aliens, such as the Soundtrack, the concept of a floating laboratory where the Aliens are being experimented on and the "mad scientists" were cool. Also, the way the story was executed was rather nice. Resurrection is an original film. It is different, I think that is why so many people misunderstand it, I, personally, like different, original films.

I dunno why this guy was banned but he's pretty right !

Yu may be entitled too your opinion but
QuoteAlso, the way the story was executed was rather nice.
I gotta disagree on this one.
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Post by: DiabloGuapo on Aug 21, 2010, 04:13:31 AM
1. Alien
2. Alien 3
3. Aliens
I love Alien because of the mystery and fear of the unknown in this film. Besides, it's the original. Alien 3, like Alien, is dark, girty, only has one alien, and the fact that the humans can't really defend themselves from the creature. Aliens is a great action film, but when I watch an Alien film, I want horror. Honestly, don't understand why almost everyone loves this film over the others and hate Alien 3 so much. This movies made the aliens less mysterious and scary and into overgrown, mindless bugs. The aliens seem to be careless when in numbers. In the first and thrid films, one could take down many people with out being seen. In Aliens, they just throw themselves in the line of fire. Where did their stealth go? Don't get me wrong, I do love Aliens, but it isn't horror that I wanted. Alien made you scared of the dark. Aliens gets you pumped up for action. To me, Alien 3 is the better sequel because it has the same feel as the original.

Sorry, I didn't want to rant. I just wanted to express my thoughts.


Wait, wasn't there a fourth Alien film?...Nah, it must have been a bad dream.
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Post by: Valaquen on Aug 21, 2010, 06:03:09 AM
Quote from: DiabloGuapo on Aug 21, 2010, 04:13:31 AM
1. Alien
2. Alien 3
3. Aliens
I love Alien because of the mystery and fear of the unknown in this film. Besides, it's the original. Alien 3, like Alien, is dark, girty, only has one alien, and the fact that the humans can't really defend themselves from the creature. Aliens is a great action film, but when I watch an Alien film, I want horror. Honestly, don't understand why almost everyone loves this film over the others and hate Alien 3 so much. This movies made the aliens less mysterious and scary and into overgrown, mindless bugs. The aliens seem to be careless when in numbers. In the first and thrid films, one could take down many people with out being seen. In Aliens, they just throw themselves in the line of fire. Where did their stealth go? Don't get me wrong, I do love Aliens, but it isn't horror that I wanted. Alien made you scared of the dark. Aliens gets you pumped up for action. To me, Alien 3 is the better sequel because it has the same feel as the original.

Sorry, I didn't want to rant. I just wanted to express my thoughts.


Wait, wasn't there a fourth Alien film?...Nah, it must have been a bad dream.

:-X ... http://valaquen.blogspot.com/2010/08/alien-war.html#more
&
http://valaquen.blogspot.com/search/label/The%20Insect%20Influence
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Post by: Omegamorph on Aug 21, 2010, 06:57:35 AM
Valaquen Uber-Articles to the rescue!
;)
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Post by: Valaquen on Aug 21, 2010, 07:01:44 AM
Quote from: OmegaZilla on Aug 21, 2010, 06:57:35 AM
Valaquen Uber-Articles to the rescue!
;)
Linking it will save me from crying over my laptop as I furiously type a rebuttal  :D
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Post by: DiabloGuapo on Aug 21, 2010, 12:00:40 PM
Quote from: Valaquen on Aug 21, 2010, 07:01:44 AM
Quote from: OmegaZilla on Aug 21, 2010, 06:57:35 AM
Valaquen Uber-Articles to the rescue!
;)
Linking it will save me from crying over my laptop as I furiously type a rebuttal  :D
I think you missed my point. My main arugement was over the Horror film vs. Action film. Nice job though. I agree with a lot that you said, but what I am concerned about is the type of movies the first three are. Aliens is a great movie, but it still an Action film more than it is a Horror film. Please don't criticize me over my opinon.
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Post by: Valaquen on Aug 21, 2010, 03:50:59 PM
Quote from: DiabloGuapo on Aug 21, 2010, 12:00:40 PM
Quote from: Valaquen on Aug 21, 2010, 07:01:44 AM
Quote from: OmegaZilla on Aug 21, 2010, 06:57:35 AM
Valaquen Uber-Articles to the rescue!
;)
Linking it will save me from crying over my laptop as I furiously type a rebuttal  :D
I think you missed my point. My main arugement was over the Horror film vs. Action film. Nice job though. I agree with a lot that you said, but what I am concerned about is the type of movies the first three are. Aliens is a great movie, but it still an Action film more than it is a Horror film. Please don't criticize me over my opinon.
I'm not criticising your opinion, just tackling the 'mindless Alien' thing that goes on. Your opinion is perfectly valid, I can understand preferring the one Alien-no weapon approach (Alien3 has a sequence with enough explosions to rival, if not outdo, the firepower of the Operations scene, and I think Aliens has plenty of suspense - you don't see an Alien for an hour an when you do it's in flashes, save the Queen) and I like Alien3 too. Another Aliens-esque movie would have been boring, and I don't think it could have rivaled Aliens, so I'm happy it took the low key approach it did.
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: Jonesy201 on Sep 04, 2010, 11:51:50 PM
Got to be Alien (the extended version) first, then pretty much the order they were released. Should have stopped at 3 though because res was garbage (especially the newborn).
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Post by: Necrokult on Sep 04, 2010, 11:53:50 PM
Resurrection , Newborn for life ;) i was imagine a Newborn vs Predator, any chance for newborn? LOL
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Post by: #6.0 on Sep 05, 2010, 03:52:33 AM
Quote from: Necrokult on Sep 04, 2010, 11:53:50 PM
Resurrection , Newborn for life ;) i was imagine a Newborn vs Predator, any chance for newborn? LOL

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Post by: Sharp Sticks on Sep 05, 2010, 04:12:39 AM
Aliens is my favourite, although Alien is arguably the better of the two. I love them both of course. Actually, scratch that: my favourite Alien film is Alien, my favourite film is Aliens. I'd have to really struggle to find a movie with pacing, design, and a combination of a whole bunch of technical cinematic mishmash that I find more simply entertaining and rewarding than Aliens. And that's not to put down other great films, but Aliens is my vanilla, my Times New Roman, my default template for everything I love in a movie.

A^3 and Resurrection are curiosities. Fairly interesting films in their own right. But I don't really include them.
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Post by: Shobidoo on Sep 06, 2010, 12:02:15 AM
Quote from: Necrokult on Sep 04, 2010, 11:53:50 PM
Resurrection , Newborn for life ;) i was imagine a Newborn vs Predator, any chance for newborn? LOL
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Post by: BANE on Sep 06, 2010, 12:06:57 AM
Quote from: Necrokult on Sep 04, 2010, 11:53:50 PM
Resurrection , Newborn for life ;) i was imagine a Newborn vs Predator, any chance for newborn? LOL
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Post by: Omegamorph on Sep 06, 2010, 05:45:44 AM
Quote from: Necrokult on Sep 04, 2010, 11:53:50 PM
Resurrection , Newborn for life ;) i was imagine a Newborn vs Predator, any chance for newborn? LOL
With an omnibitchslap, why not.
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: Shobidoo on Sep 06, 2010, 06:17:39 AM
Its hard to pick between Alien and Aliens. It is like picking the favorite of my children! But i enjoyed Aliens more. But They are both great and each will have a special place in my heart.
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: Inverse Effect on Sep 08, 2010, 06:28:11 AM
1. Aliens
2. Alien
3. Alien3
4. Alien resurrection
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: WolfPredator10 on Sep 29, 2010, 09:22:10 AM
Aliens , Alien , Alien Resurrection , Alien 3
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: scarhunter92 on Sep 30, 2010, 03:03:00 PM
Quote from: The Black Swordsman on Sep 08, 2010, 06:28:11 AM
1. Aliens
2. Alien
3. Alien3
4. Alien resurrection

This.
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Post by: Vitriol on Oct 04, 2010, 12:58:36 PM
Alien is the most important, Aliens is the most entertaining, Alien3 is the most immersive and Alien Resurrection is the most French.
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: DoomRulz on Oct 05, 2010, 12:06:26 AM
Was there something about Resurrection that made it "French" aside from the director?
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: Alexa Chung on Oct 05, 2010, 12:08:11 AM
dominique pinon's english accent?
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: SM on Oct 05, 2010, 12:09:21 AM
"Who were you expecting?  The Eastern Bunny?"
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Post by: DoomRulz on Oct 05, 2010, 12:11:00 AM
Quote from: Alexa Chung on Oct 05, 2010, 12:08:11 AM
dominique pinon's english accent?

Yeah, that's gotta be it lol
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: Valaquen on Oct 05, 2010, 09:01:24 AM
The French crew Jeunet brought over Frenched it up a bit too, and the comedic style of the film was very Jeunet.
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: Vitriol on Oct 05, 2010, 09:42:08 AM
I watched a French sci-fi film called Dante01, it had a very Alien Resurrestion feel to it - and also starred our wheel-chaired hero, Dominque Pinon.

Not sure why that's relevant but I'd recommend it!

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Post by: Vulhala on Oct 05, 2010, 09:43:23 AM
Quote from: Valaquen on Oct 05, 2010, 09:01:24 AM
The French crew Jeunet brought over Frenched it up a bit too, and the comedic style of the film was very Jeunet.

To be fair, it could have been far worse. I didn't find it too arty.
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: Valaquen on Oct 05, 2010, 10:07:55 AM
Quote from: Vulhala on Oct 05, 2010, 09:43:23 AM
Quote from: Valaquen on Oct 05, 2010, 09:01:24 AM
The French crew Jeunet brought over Frenched it up a bit too, and the comedic style of the film was very Jeunet.

To be fair, it could have been far worse. I didn't find it too arty.
Me neither, to be honest, the film, to me, looked quite dull and sickly yellow. It's not for me.
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: Corporal Hicks on Oct 05, 2010, 11:21:42 AM
You know, I find Resurrection so disappointing because of the good stuff that they've actually done.

City of the Lost Children was amazing. Some fantastic acting - Pearlman, I think Pinon was in that too, I can't remember but I enjoyed him in Amelie and Delicatessen. I love Whedon's Firefly/Serenity and Dr Horrible's Sing Along Blog. And let's not forget what a waste of Dourif and Orser.
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: Valaquen on Oct 05, 2010, 12:36:45 PM
Dourif's problem is that whilst he's excellent (Child's Play, and I liked hi in Spontaneous Combustion, as well as LOTR) he's painfully typecast. He's meant to be quite good in Halloween 2, but I'll never watch that.
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: Ogata881 on Oct 05, 2010, 08:01:33 PM
Alien,but i have already answered in this thread.At least now i can write why.....
Sure Aliens is a blast to watch over and over again,but i don't think it has what Alien has.
I don't fear the creatures in Cameron's film,they seem cannon fodder and are there to keep the marines busy and take some of them off screen,so we get to the final Queen confrontation.Don't really understand how people could say that the creatures had a better design in Aliens.They were much closer to the generic movie monster of the 80s than the first film's once in a lifetime creature.Every time i watch Aliens it just oozes 80s from the screen,but every time i watch Alien it doesn't show a specific decade on the screen.It doesn't screem 70s right away,it is just.....timeless.
The characters in Aliens are good enough,just don't come even close to the realism the ones in Alien had.It's cool to be all bad-ass blowing bad bugs to pieces,but as i started to grow up it became like a bubble gum that simply kinda lost it's flavor that it had for me when i was a kiddo.I think i watched a video of John Hurt where he said that he thought the other alien films felt much more fantasy and adventure oriented,while the first felt heavy on the ground.And the sob is absolutely right.
Alien on the other hand has not only the most realistic characters in the franchise,but they are the best too.They are not advanced soldiers from the future,they aren't dangerous prisoners on a distant planet,also they aren't nomadic space bandits that can shoot a grenade right in the opening of an alien egg just by looking at a reflection of it. :-\
They feel like a bunch of common people that you almost could work with on a daily basis.At least that's how it felt to me.
I also say that Captain Dallas is the best character of all in the alien films by far.
On the contrary as i was growing up i started liking Alien more and more and that just has to say something.
No offense to the Aliens fans,that's just my way of looking at the films.Both of them are gold anyway.
I also like Alien 3 a lot,but that's for a different discussion i think.
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: SM on Oct 05, 2010, 10:46:17 PM
QuoteI think Pinon was in that too

You think?  He only played a stack of clones and the original.  :D
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: Xeno_Yautja on Oct 08, 2010, 11:27:11 PM
ALIENS 10
ALIEN 10
ALIEN3 8
ALIEN RESURRECTION 7
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: DrGediman on Oct 09, 2010, 12:35:51 AM
Quote from: Vitriol on Oct 05, 2010, 09:42:08 AM
I watched a French sci-fi film called Dante01, it had a very Alien Resurrestion feel to it - and also starred our wheel-chaired hero, Dominque Pinon.

Not sure why that's relevant but I'd recommend it!

Dante 01 was the film Alien Resurrection could've been.  If Marc Caro was onboard, for Alien Resurrection, we may have gotten more hard scifi like Dante 01, and less goofiness.  I still like Alien Resurrection, but I think Jeunet was slightly out of his depth making that film.
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: Vitriol on Oct 09, 2010, 02:27:00 PM
Quote from: DrGediman on Oct 09, 2010, 12:35:51 AM
Quote from: Vitriol on Oct 05, 2010, 09:42:08 AM
I watched a French sci-fi film called Dante01, it had a very Alien Resurrestion feel to it - and also starred our wheel-chaired hero, Dominque Pinon.

Not sure why that's relevant but I'd recommend it!

Dante 01 was the film Alien Resurrection could've been.  If Marc Caro was onboard, for Alien Resurrection, we may have gotten more hard scifi like Dante 01, and less goofiness.  I still like Alien Resurrection, but I think Jeunet was slightly out of his depth making that film.

Quite agree.
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: SM on Oct 11, 2010, 04:31:46 AM
Quote from: DrGediman on Oct 09, 2010, 12:35:51 AM
Quote from: Vitriol on Oct 05, 2010, 09:42:08 AM
I watched a French sci-fi film called Dante01, it had a very Alien Resurrestion feel to it - and also starred our wheel-chaired hero, Dominque Pinon.

Not sure why that's relevant but I'd recommend it!

Dante 01 was the film Alien Resurrection could've been.  If Marc Caro was onboard, for Alien Resurrection, we may have gotten more hard scifi like Dante 01, and less goofiness.  I still like Alien Resurrection, but I think Jeunet was slightly out of his depth making that film.

Dunno about that.  Caro's orginal character designs - just concepts; granted - were the very epitomy of 'goofy'.
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: Omegamorph on Oct 11, 2010, 06:56:53 PM
Out of depht?
(https://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.stampede-entertainment.com%2Fmonstermakers%2Fclones-3-6.jpg&hash=bfd017cd94d9d613ac63cc26685596f68a8f7490)
Yeah, um.
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: DoomRulz on Oct 11, 2010, 07:00:25 PM
What has been seen...
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: Valaquen on Oct 11, 2010, 07:36:49 PM
Quote from: OmegaZilla on Oct 11, 2010, 06:56:53 PM
Out of depht?
(https://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.stampede-entertainment.com%2Fmonstermakers%2Fclones-3-6.jpg&hash=bfd017cd94d9d613ac63cc26685596f68a8f7490)
Yeah, um.
Is that Pumpkinhead in the middle there? ;)
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: SM on Oct 12, 2010, 01:43:20 AM
Punkinhead with a mangina.
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: DoomRulz on Oct 12, 2010, 02:45:28 AM
I want to say "Newborn (may its name be forever cursed) concept"...
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: SM on Oct 12, 2010, 02:49:48 AM
...why?

It's Ripley #6.
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: DoomRulz on Oct 12, 2010, 02:50:26 AM
Oy vey...
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: SM on Oct 12, 2010, 03:47:42 AM
Fakakta...
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: StrangeShape on Oct 12, 2010, 11:11:55 AM
Quote from: Valaquen on Oct 11, 2010, 07:36:49 PM
Quote from: OmegaZilla on Oct 11, 2010, 06:56:53 PM
Out of depht?
(https://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.stampede-entertainment.com%2Fmonstermakers%2Fclones-3-6.jpg&hash=bfd017cd94d9d613ac63cc26685596f68a8f7490)
Yeah, um.
Is that Pumpkinhead in the middle there? ;)

Weird, eh? They used Pumpkinhead;'s body for the aliens and Pumpkinhead's head for the clone
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: SM on Oct 12, 2010, 10:12:31 PM
'cept that head doesn't bear that much similarity to Pumpkinhead...

(https://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.mwctoys.com%2Fimages%2Freview_pumpkinhead_9.jpg&hash=1043407e8cf6a3969676b4fa80b93a2cc373e77e)

Ripley#6 has very basic skin texturing and Pumpkinhead doesn't.

All that's similar is the overall shape.
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: DoomRulz on Oct 12, 2010, 10:46:39 PM
Just the head, really. Everything else on Ripley 6 looks humanoid.
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: SM on Oct 12, 2010, 10:54:09 PM
Pretty much.

Punkinhead has a massive mouth, a face and the head that seems to have two bits.

Ripley#6 doesn't.
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: DoomRulz on Oct 12, 2010, 10:54:47 PM
And I swear it looks like he has a penis that is struggling to grow.
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: SM on Oct 12, 2010, 10:55:25 PM
I just noticed that myself...  :-\
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: DoomRulz on Oct 12, 2010, 11:06:59 PM
Maybe that's why he's so angry.
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: StrangeShape on Oct 13, 2010, 10:50:51 AM
Quote from: SM on Oct 12, 2010, 10:12:31 PM
'cept that head doesn't bear that much similarity to Pumpkinhead...

(https://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.mwctoys.com%2Fimages%2Freview_pumpkinhead_9.jpg&hash=1043407e8cf6a3969676b4fa80b93a2cc373e77e)

Ripley#6 has very basic skin texturing and Pumpkinhead doesn't.

All that's similar is the overall shape.

Pumpkinhead also went through design changes throughout the movies. Very subtle, but still. Thats more or less the one I thought about when I saw #6

(https://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.dreadcentral.com%2Fimg%2Freviews%2Fphead32b.jpg&hash=de7240ef9b0f8207f6f175b5067414a97a731619)

Im not saying theyre near identical like the bodies of Pumpkinhead and ADI bugs, but theres a resemblence which may not be accidental, considering the fact that ADI are so in love with their own self and their first design that they keep incorporating it in whatever theyre doing
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: Omegamorph on Oct 13, 2010, 11:22:25 AM
The only thing(s) that Pumpkinhead and the A:R Aliens have in common are the teeth, the avian legs (they don't look alike too, it's the anatomicals structure that bears resemblance) and the humanoid ribcage. End.
The comparison with Ripley #6 especially I don't get - the thing got serried teeth, in a very little mouth. Pumpkinhead has a big, big mouth, with humanoid teeth. Ripley #6 has little, bloody eyes on the side of the skull. Pumpkinhead has them in the front of it - and they are white, pupil less. Also the clone hasn't a head as detailed.
Also it wasn't ADI designing Pumpkinhead if I recall right, t'was Winston.
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: Valaquen on Oct 13, 2010, 11:34:49 AM
You ladies need to chill out - people were joking.
Relax.
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: Omegamorph on Oct 13, 2010, 11:41:59 AM
Say 'Relax' again! Say 'Relax' again! I double dare you! I triple dare you!

;) Nobody was "warm" in there.
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: StrangeShape on Oct 13, 2010, 11:46:17 AM
Quote from: OmegaZilla on Oct 13, 2010, 11:22:25 AM
The only thing(s) that Pumpkinhead and the A:R Aliens have in common are the teeth, the avian legs (they don't look alike too, it's the anatomicals structure that bears resemblance) and the humanoid ribcage. End.

I dont know. They look very much alike. Like you said, theres the ribcage, the legs, then there are the shoulder appendages that re grown to the shoulders, the hands and the whole fleshy structure

(https://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.mwctoys.com%2Fimages%2Freview_pumpkinhead_1.jpg&hash=1c527597d93abd936d87f229278bb6426f1b67b8)(https://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.shocktillyoudrop.com%2Fgallery%2F5604%2FAmalgamated_Dynamics_3.jpg&hash=d550df5766a05f35b5f193d7b089e2a0b748eb05)

The influence is apparent

QuoteThe comparison with Ripley #6 especially I don't get - the thing got serried teeth, in a very little mouth. Pumpkinhead has a big, big mouth, with humanoid teeth. Ripley #6 has little, bloody eyes on the side of the skull. Pumpkinhead has them in the front of it - and they are white, pupil less. Also the clone hasn't a head as detailed.

Again, it was more of a sarcasm, but a slight resemblance is there

QuoteAlso it wasn't ADI designing Pumpkinhead if I recall right, t'was Winston.

No it wasnt. It was the first and only time Winston let Gillis and Woodruf both design and act as a creature
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: Omegamorph on Oct 13, 2010, 12:06:41 PM
Quote from: StrangeShape on Oct 13, 2010, 11:46:17 AM
ribcage
Well as said, but a lot of Monsters have this characteristic, borrowed obviously by the first Alien designs (as far as I know they were the first Monsters showing a visible ribcage). The Alien from Altered shows this too:
(https://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi51.tinypic.com%2Ft50okp.jpg&hash=5294de4f3b7c38ba76978d9d29d623eea3b837a3)

Quote from: StrangeShape on Oct 13, 2010, 11:46:17 AM
They look very much alike.
A resemblance at first glance (rhyme! ;)) is undeniable, but then there come a lot of differences too. It's also a bit obvious - Pumpkinhead was inspired by the original Aliens in its design. The A:R Aliens are a derivation of the original Alien design, so some similarities aren't so unexpected if you ask me. :)

Quote from: StrangeShape on Oct 13, 2010, 11:46:17 AM
then there are the shoulder appendages
Pumpkinhead's appendages spring directly from the shoulder, and are bone-y in appearence. The Aliens have the shoulder pads with skinny muscles joining those with the actual arm (sort of an exaggeration of what was there in the first designs, alas four cables). I see no similarities there.

Quote from: StrangeShape on Oct 13, 2010, 11:46:17 AM
the hands and the whole fleshy structure
What gets me is that Pumpkinhead is muscular in structure, and has clearly visible veins. The Aliens are all but muscular - they're skinny as all the other Aliens. The feet too, Pumpkinhead has those monstrous, thick toes, whereas the Aliens have skinny, long toes.


Quote from: StrangeShape on Oct 13, 2010, 11:46:17 AM
No it wasnt. It was the first and only time Winston let Gillis and Woodruf both design and act as a creature
I stand corrected - thought it was all a work of SWS. Also a question, when did ADI start business (alas, when did it "detach" from SWS)?

Also saved the pic of the Alien if 'ya don't mind. :)
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: Valaquen on Oct 13, 2010, 12:09:38 PM
Quote from: OmegaZilla on Oct 13, 2010, 12:06:41 PM
Quote from: StrangeShape on Oct 13, 2010, 11:46:17 AM
ribcage
Well as said, but a lot of Monsters have this characteristic, borrowed obviously by the first Alien designs (as far as I know they were the first Monsters showing a visible ribcage). The Alien from Altered shows this too:
(https://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi51.tinypic.com%2Ft50okp.jpg&hash=5294de4f3b7c38ba76978d9d29d623eea3b837a3)
Not seeing the resemblence in ribcage. Obviously, they're human-esque, but the Pumpkinhead and AR+ ribs are exact.

QuoteI stand corrected - thought it was all a work of SWS. Also a question, when did ADI start business (alas, when did it "detach" from SWS)?
Around 1990. Their first movie was some effects works on Tremors. Then Alien 3.
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: Omegamorph on Oct 13, 2010, 12:25:02 PM
Quote from: Valaquen on Oct 13, 2010, 12:09:38 PM
Not seeing the resemblence in ribcage.
All of them are protruding and humanoid, that's the resemblance.

Quote from: Valaquen on Oct 13, 2010, 12:09:38 PM
but the Pumpkinhead and AR+ ribs are exact.
Similar I do agree with, but they're not exactly the same.
(https://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi51.tinypic.com%2F2nmy68.jpg&hash=c641bf90fc59abd583918ae13105248610494157)
As we can see, the sternum is slightly more pronounced in the A:R Alien, there's also more of a curve created by the ribs connecting with the sternum, and Pumpkinhead's ribs are covered with some flesh appendages. Also the angle in the photo I used doesn't quite show - but I think the A:R ridges are more curved too.

Quote from: Valaquen on Oct 13, 2010, 12:09:38 PM
Around 1990. Their first movie was some effects works on Tremors. Then Alien 3.
thanks. At that point I was unsure - I knew that their first work was Tremors (they did hell of a good job), but this had me doubting whether they were still in SWS when they were working on Pumpkinhead or not. Thanks for clearing that. :)
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: StrangeShape on Oct 13, 2010, 12:30:05 PM
They cant be exactly the same, but as your own pics has proved, they are extremely alike. Sure, there are common features in movie monsters (and that proves further that ADI added the generic monster features to the alien design), but the big difference here is that both creatures at question come from the same people and are surprisingly very much alike. And knowing Gillis' and Woodruff boasting ego and self praise (after all, they criticized Giger's and Winston's creatures and claimed theirs is the best), I believe they simply adapted Pumpkinhead's design to Alien because they were the biggest fans of it (if not the only ones)
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: Omegamorph on Oct 13, 2010, 12:51:07 PM
Thing is, the Alien contributed to create the generic movie monster features. It's since Alien we have skinny monsters (hell, there are a lot others that have a visible ribcage; it's fairly common now, although it's undeniably a cool feature) and all that stuff. And not in case. The greatness of Giger's design inspired countless works after it and a lot of designs "borrowed" traits from it. The A:R Aliens unfortunately suffered from this because, instead of being associated to the legacy they were continuing, they were associated to other movie monsters that borrowed some design choices from the first alien, ending up looking similar in some details.
But the A:R Alien still features the most striking features of the original Aliens (bar the biomech, still present but in a far lesser quantity), alas the long, stretched head, the eyeless feel, the visible bone inside the semi-transparent dome, the shredded cheeks, the metallic teeth, the inner jaw, the back tubes. Something not quite common in other movie monsters.

Oh, and I like both Pumpkinhead and the movie it stars in. Winston did a great job with it.
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: SM on Oct 13, 2010, 10:52:41 PM
QuoteIm not saying theyre near identical like the bodies of Pumpkinhead and ADI bugs, but theres a resemblence which may not be accidental, considering the fact that ADI are so in love with their own self and their first design that they keep incorporating it in whatever theyre doing

I was just talking about the heads.

The upper torso is a fairly obvious Alien rip off.
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: ERipley2154 on Nov 04, 2010, 01:26:20 AM
Let's see favorite Alien movie? I love them all obviously but my personal favorite is Aliens: Special Edition.
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: FrigginPandas on Dec 05, 2010, 10:00:44 PM
I guess mine would be, Alien 3. Not really sure as to why but I just like it.   :P
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: RazorSlash on Dec 14, 2010, 09:39:28 PM
Aliens
Alien
Alien Resurrection
Alien 3
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: P.B. on Dec 21, 2010, 11:37:40 PM
1. Alien (TC)
2. Aliens (TC)









3. Alien 3 (TC/AC)

Alien is a perfect movie top to bottom... Aliens is one of the most awesome movies ever made... Alien 3 is boooooooooooooorrrrrrriiiiiinnng.
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: DragonBossk on Dec 22, 2010, 11:56:01 AM
To those that chose A:R......hello!
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: MykeHavoc on Dec 24, 2010, 03:42:08 AM
I don't necessarily think Alien 3 is the best, but I tend to watch it the most. Love the tone of it.
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: StrangeShape on Dec 28, 2010, 03:23:52 PM
After years of not being able to tell which of the movies from the trilogy I like better, liking them all really equally, after my recent reviewings of the trilogy I think I can now rank them. Still, they are extremely close to each other for me. My ranking would be

Aliens
Alien 3
Alien

Alien by the admission of everyone involved was a straight ahead horror movie. Aliens was made because of Cameron's fascination with Ripley character, and it was about her trauma and her fighting her inner demons. Alien 3 was also about Ripley, her depression and how she deals with her situation. Alien 3 is even more about Ripley to the point where, like I said, you can take out the runner and the story could still remain intact. Its more drama. Im not saying either is good or bad, but I prefer focusing on Ripley's character and the characters' dramas with aliens being just a backdrop or a story device for those dramas

Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: #6.0 on Dec 28, 2010, 07:13:19 PM
Yeah if the last letter of its title is not the letter S, it's not my fav.
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: DoomRulz on Dec 28, 2010, 08:56:04 PM
Oh, the difference a letter makes...
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: Gash on Jan 04, 2011, 01:23:10 AM
Alien is a class film. IMO easily the best. Almost to the extent that I consider the 'franchise' as a different entity altogether. Alien 3 is a laudable attempt at something that might have worked if Fox had had faith in Fincher. The rest I could happily forget.
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: samoht on Jan 13, 2011, 12:39:59 AM
I love ALIEN
I love ALIENS
Alien 3 is a pretty good movie but I don't like it because it pissed me off so much. I was so annoyed when they killed of Hicks and newt. At the end of ALIENS it all seemed to nice that only those few survived, but when they killed them off so quickly in ALIEN 3 it spoiled the ALIEN franchise for me permanently.
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: predxeno on Jan 19, 2011, 06:32:39 PM
My fav is Aliens all the way.
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: Gash on Jan 20, 2011, 08:19:25 PM
ALIEN is in a league of its own. The 'franchise' that came after doesn't inspire me at all, though Alien3 has lots to commend it.
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: Gilfryd on Jan 23, 2011, 03:28:18 AM
Alien is a masterpiece. Aliens is great too, although I don't think it's as timeless. And I find Resurrection more satisfying than 3. So there you go.
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: AliceApocalypse on Jan 24, 2011, 06:58:38 PM
Quote from: Brett on Jan 23, 2011, 03:28:18 AM
Alien is a masterpiece. Aliens is great too, although I don't think it's as timeless.

Excellent point.
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: Sharp Sticks on Jan 24, 2011, 07:04:10 PM
The only reason Aliens isn't completely timeless is because the 80's ended.

And that's a terrible thing.
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: Omegamorph on Jan 24, 2011, 07:08:36 PM
Yep.
Aliens suffers from the fact you can tell it's a balls-out awesome 80s flick.
Alien instead doesn't feel "locked" in a certain period of time. It could even be a film released in the 2000s, if you don't count some SFX issues typical of earlier films.
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: Sharp Sticks on Jan 24, 2011, 07:14:55 PM
I wouldn't say Aliens 'suffers' from anything. It's a near-perfect film, as is Alien. They're just different. You wouldn't call the Wizard of Oz timeless as a film, it's as 1939 as 1939 gets, but the story and themes are universal. Same with Aliens.
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: Omegamorph on Jan 24, 2011, 07:18:10 PM
Of course.
What I am saying is that Alien doesn't feel locked in a certain period of time. You couldn't tell it was made in a certain period by its style. Films like Aliens, or as another example, Predator, are immediately recognized as being 80s films.
Perhaps I should have used a different verb than "suffer", but you get the point.
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: Valaquen on Jan 24, 2011, 07:19:23 PM
Alien has the whole "you go off alone, we'll look way over here," Scooby Doo thing that many 70's and 80's horror had. It looks great though.
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: Sharp Sticks on Jan 24, 2011, 07:20:01 PM
Yeah, of course Omega.

Not that you could make Alien today. It's practically an art film compared to the Hollywood standard these days.
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: Omegamorph on Jan 24, 2011, 07:25:05 PM
If you copy bit-by-bit the whole thing, of course you can. It wouldn't bring anything fresh to see though, so there'd be no reason.
The 2006 Omen is a proof of that.

Quote from: Valaquen on Jan 24, 2011, 07:19:23 PM
Alien has the whole "you go off alone, we'll look way over here," Scooby Doo thing that many 70's and 80's horror had.
The only ones I could recall are Halloween and The Thing. You got any more examples?
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: Sharp Sticks on Jan 24, 2011, 07:30:28 PM
Quote from: OmegaZilla on Jan 24, 2011, 07:25:05 PM
If you copy bit-by-bit the whole thing, of course you can. It wouldn't bring anything fresh to see though, so there'd be no reason.
The 2006 Omen is a proof of that.

What I mean is that if, theoretically, the world was exactly the same as it is now, only Alien had never been made (I won't go into the vastly sophisticated cause-and-effect Alien was obviously a part of) you could not make Alien as an original film today. There's a very specific aesthetic in that film that you don't see anymore, born out of Metal Hurlant and Lovecraft and the cinematic game changer that was Star Wars. It's not a dated film, but it clearly comes from a different set of sensibilities.
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: Valaquen on Jan 24, 2011, 08:01:08 PM
Quote from: OmegaZilla on Jan 24, 2011, 07:25:05 PM
If you copy bit-by-bit the whole thing, of course you can. It wouldn't bring anything fresh to see though, so there'd be no reason.
The 2006 Omen is a proof of that.

Quote from: Valaquen on Jan 24, 2011, 07:19:23 PM
Alien has the whole "you go off alone, we'll look way over here," Scooby Doo thing that many 70's and 80's horror had.
The only ones I could recall are Halloween and The Thing. You got any more examples?
ANOES and F13 continued the tradition, and those are the good movies.
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: StrangeShape on Jan 24, 2011, 08:17:21 PM
Quote from: Valaquen on Jan 24, 2011, 07:19:23 PM
Alien has the whole "you go off alone, we'll look way over here," Scooby Doo thing that many 70's and 80's horror had. It looks great though.

Yeah, and a couple of other small things (score is what is truly dated tho, and the only thing from the movie that I flat out dont like. Goldsmith was a brilliant composer and his score to Basic Instinct is one of my faves, but in this movie most of the score contains plenty of typical 70s cues. Some moments are great tho), but I feel all 3 movies are in a very small way dated. Even Alien 3 - its depressing, its downbeat, and lets not forget early 90s was a Grunge era and was all about that. At the same time the first 2 defy their eras as well
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: Gash on Jan 24, 2011, 11:10:20 PM
You find the score to Alien dated? I think it's a masterpiece. I love the way that just as Scott divided artists to deal with the human technology and the Alien elements, Goldsmith created a score that is human (dramatic, stirring, emotional, terrifying) and just bizarrely alien. The music for the derelict/egg chamber sequence is the perfect match of visuals and audio - and the fact that those creepier 'alien' elements make a return to the score towards the end of the film is just one more element to admire in the artistic genius that is Alien. I'd say this was Goldsmith at the height of his creativity. It's certainly not something I consider dated at all.

Also on the issue of the 70's horror themes of going off alone, that's really only Brett isn't it? When he's looking for a cat and the worst he can expect to come up against is a little infant alien, only it turns out it wasn't quite so under developed as they were all assuming. I find that an acceptable reworking of a classic horror theme.
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: Valaquen on Jan 25, 2011, 08:47:04 AM
The score that kicks in as they chase after the facehugger's acid - yeah, that kinda throws me off a bit, it feels odd, if that's what you mean, StrangeShapes? The rest is gold for me. @Gash they do it later in the film do, Ripley goes off on her own twice. No big deal.
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: Sharp Sticks on Jan 25, 2011, 08:56:39 AM
Quote from: Valaquen on Jan 25, 2011, 08:47:04 AM
The score that kicks in as they chase after the facehugger's acid - yeah, that kinda throws me off a bit, it feels odd, if that's what you mean, StrangeShapes? The rest is gold for me.

That cue was from a completely different score, anyway. Still by Goldsmith. Freud, I think.
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: SiL on Jan 25, 2011, 09:08:22 AM
Same with the air vent sequence.

I adore Alien's soundtrack because it doesn't sound like a lot of other soundtracks -- and I really don't see what's dated or particularly "70s" about it. I've never heard another 70s film that sounded anything like Alien.
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: Valaquen on Jan 25, 2011, 09:24:46 AM
Quote from: Sharp Sticks on Jan 25, 2011, 08:56:39 AM
Quote from: Valaquen on Jan 25, 2011, 08:47:04 AM
The score that kicks in as they chase after the facehugger's acid - yeah, that kinda throws me off a bit, it feels odd, if that's what you mean, StrangeShapes? The rest is gold for me.

That cue was from a completely different score, anyway. Still by Goldsmith. Freud, I think.
That's it. It sounds like something Speilberg would use. As I've said, no biggie.
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: StrangeShape on Jan 25, 2011, 01:07:21 PM
Again, Goldsmith score is great, but it does sound 70s. Heres just oneexample of the often used, typical 70s cues - 2:34 to 2: 53 from http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8rkQgzVEWDo# (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8rkQgzVEWDo#) is one of those full on 70s scores. Compare to 2:45 to 3:00 from 76's King Kong for an example - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HpxPW_SB6iQ# (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HpxPW_SB6iQ#) Those are just quick and off the hat examples, they both sound 70s and for me the Goldsmith's score could be easily dated. Im a soundtrack buff and I listen to soundtracks all the time so maybe it sounds more apparent to me. Emphasis on same instruments, flute accents etc. But just listen to the music that starts playing during the credits, cmon, its so obviously 70s


Some parts I love, but most I honestly dont like much. Its the only thing that truly dates the movie, more so than the monitors, blinking lights room and Scooby Doo monster pose (Im talking about alien standing in front of Ripley with its arms spread out growling but not doing anything:

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Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: Sharp Sticks on Jan 25, 2011, 06:32:10 PM
Quote from: StrangeShape on Jan 25, 2011, 01:07:21 PM
But just listen to the music that starts playing during the credits, cmon, its so obviously 70s
That wasn't composed for Alien either.

Quote from: StrangeShape on Jan 25, 2011, 01:07:21 PM
Some parts I love, but most I honestly dont like much. Its the only thing that truly dates the movie, more so than the monitors, blinking lights room and Scooby Doo monster pose (Im talking about alien standing in front of Ripley with its arms spread out growling but not doing anything:
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Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: Valaquen on Jan 25, 2011, 07:16:11 PM
Quote from: Sharp Sticks on Jan 25, 2011, 06:32:10 PM
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To be fair, I think that shot is more comparable to the Alien 'floating' towards Lambert, [that's definitely a compliment!].
I don't share Strange Shape's particular criticism on that though.
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: Sharp Sticks on Jan 25, 2011, 07:27:40 PM
Yeah, that's always what the 'gliding' shot reminds me of, Nosferatu in space. Hella creepy. It's so wrong, it's right.
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: TheMonolith on Jan 25, 2011, 07:42:31 PM
I love the first three.
Alien, I feel is the most artistic of the bunch. It has a lot of clever subtexts that carry the film very well and propel it far beyond a B monster movie.
Aliens is a war film, and that is what makes it work so well. The scenery is the most spectacular out of any other film in the series, and the supporting cast is full of winners. Even Horner's score which he doesn't like is great. This film also got an Oscar nom for best actress, no small feet for a film in this genre.
Alien 3, a widely hated film, is one that I loved when I first saw it and I still do. The dark nature and the amazing setting seem so out of place and yet so appropriate for the series. Fincher should understand that he really did make a great movie.

I suppose since I watch Aliens the most, it would qualify as my favorite. For the sake of argument I will say that.
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: SiL on Jan 25, 2011, 09:26:01 PM
Quote from: StrangeShape on Jan 25, 2011, 01:07:21 PM
But just listen to the music that starts playing during the credits, cmon, its so obviously 70s
Opening credits? Not buying it. Closing credits? Composed in the 1930s.

I hear the bit of music you point out ... and then hear that it turns into something completely different immediately after. It goes darker and lower.

If Alien's soundtrack was used in a movie today, nobody in their right mind would say "Oh man, that's so 70s!".
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: StrangeShape on Jan 25, 2011, 10:24:46 PM
Quote from: SiL on Jan 25, 2011, 09:26:01 PM
Quote from: StrangeShape on Jan 25, 2011, 01:07:21 PM
But just listen to the music that starts playing during the credits, cmon, its so obviously 70s
Opening credits? Not buying it. Closing credits? Composed in the 1930s.

I hear the bit of music you point out ... and then hear that it turns into something completely different immediately after. It goes darker and lower.

If Alien's soundtrack was used in a movie today, nobody in their right mind would say "Oh man, that's so 70s!".

Fair eough, I think we can reach a settlement here. My point is that it does have those 70s bits which throw me off, but again, I want to point out that some parts I just love. The opening, Kane's funeral, Coccoon scene - those are brilliant
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: Joyfully Jumping Jessica on Jan 28, 2011, 06:50:18 PM
I'd say my favorite is Aliens. I really enjoyed the development of Ripley's character, and the marines were awesome [especially the "Game over, man!" one  :laugh: Sorry, I've only seen it once  :-X]! I've gotta see it again, the rewatchability is insane.

Then again, you can't beat the intensity of A L I E N (so intense that I fitted my username to match the title's sheer intensity  :D). I swear when Ripley had to run through the ship alone toward the end I nearly fainted- the pacing was absolutely killer [er, no pun intended] and the music while subtle, gave me the chills and sold the creepy atmosphere perfectly. Also, the scene where Dallas(?) is in the air ducts was cringe-inducingly scary.
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: DoomRulz on Jan 29, 2011, 05:08:49 AM
Hudson's the one you're thinking of.
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: Sharp Sticks on Jan 29, 2011, 05:12:12 AM
Quote from: Joyfully Jumping Jessica on Jan 28, 2011, 06:50:18 PM
I'd say my favorite is Aliens. I really enjoyed the development of Ripley's character, and the marines were awesome [especially the "Game over, man!" one  :laugh: Sorry, I've only seen it once  :-X]! I've gotta see it again, the rewatchability is insane.

Then again, you can't beat the intensity of A L I E N (so intense that I fitted my username to match the title's sheer intensity  :D). I swear when Ripley had to run through the ship alone toward the end I nearly fainted- the pacing was absolutely killer [er, no pun intended] and the music while subtle, gave me the chills and sold the creepy atmosphere perfectly. Also, the scene where Dallas(?) is in the air ducts was cringe-inducingly scary.
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Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: samoht on Jan 29, 2011, 10:24:50 AM
Quote from: Joyfully Jumping Jessica on Jan 28, 2011, 06:50:18 PM
I'd say my favorite is Aliens. I really enjoyed the development of Ripley's character, and the marines were awesome [especially the "Game over, man!" one  :laugh: Sorry, I've only seen it once  :-X]! I've gotta see it again, the rewatchability is insane.

Then again, you can't beat the intensity of A L I E N (so intense that I fitted my username to match the title's sheer intensity  :D). I swear when Ripley had to run through the ship alone toward the end I nearly fainted- the pacing was absolutely killer [er, no pun intended] and the music while subtle, gave me the chills and sold the creepy atmosphere perfectly. Also, the scene where Dallas(?) is in the air ducts was cringe-inducingly scary.

True dat
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: Valaquen on Jan 29, 2011, 12:28:26 PM
Quote from: Joyfully Jumping Jessica on Jan 28, 2011, 06:50:18 PM
I'd say my favorite is Aliens. I really enjoyed the development of Ripley's character, and the marines were awesome [especially the "Game over, man!" one  :laugh: Sorry, I've only seen it once  :-X]! I've gotta see it again, the rewatchability is insane.

Then again, you can't beat the intensity of A L I E N (so intense that I fitted my username to match the title's sheer intensity  :D). I swear when Ripley had to run through the ship alone toward the end I nearly fainted- the pacing was absolutely killer [er, no pun intended] and the music while subtle, gave me the chills and sold the creepy atmosphere perfectly. Also, the scene where Dallas(?) is in the air ducts was cringe-inducingly scary.
We can get on very well, I think  :laugh:
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: Joyfully Jumping Jessica on Jan 31, 2011, 04:50:57 AM
Awesome, people agreeing and stuff.

Step one- complete...
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: DoomRulz on Jan 31, 2011, 05:00:55 AM
Careful, some of us haven't seen a woman in years...
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: Space Sweeper on Jan 31, 2011, 07:25:25 AM
Quote from: DoomRulz on Jan 31, 2011, 05:00:55 AM
Careful, some of us haven't seen a woman in years...
Ch'yeah, I already briefed her on you.
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: grands0nz0rz on Jan 31, 2011, 07:29:14 AM
Quote from: DoomRulz on Jan 31, 2011, 05:00:55 AM
Careful, some of us haven't seen a woman in years...

and are making it too obvious.
;D
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: Omegamorph on Jan 31, 2011, 09:06:18 AM
Quote from: DoomRulz on Jan 31, 2011, 05:00:55 AM
Careful, some of us haven't seen a woman in years...
Neither have you, for that matter.

Spoiler
;)
[close]
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: DoomRulz on Feb 01, 2011, 12:36:43 AM
It's been sooooooooooo long!!
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: StrangeShape on Feb 02, 2011, 08:57:45 PM
Quote from: OmegaZilla on Jan 31, 2011, 09:06:18 AM
Quote from: DoomRulz on Jan 31, 2011, 05:00:55 AM
Careful, some of us haven't seen a woman in years...
Neither have you, for that matter.

Spoiler
;)
[close]

Ha! That was a good one guys
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: ScottishXeno on Feb 17, 2011, 12:00:19 AM
1- Aliens
2- Alien 3
3. Alien
4. A:R
(Like most people ;))
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: Tyrannosaur on Feb 18, 2011, 10:36:46 AM
Personally, I would do it like this:
1. Alien
2. Aliens
3. Alien 3
4. Alien: Resurrection.

Although I enjoyed A3 as a film.
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: SM on Feb 20, 2011, 10:38:45 PM
QuoteMy point is that it does have those 70s bits which throw me off, but again, I want to point out that some parts I just love.

Which bits are 70s?
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: StrangeShape on Feb 20, 2011, 10:46:58 PM
Quote from: SM on Feb 20, 2011, 10:38:45 PM
QuoteMy point is that it does have those 70s bits which throw me off, but again, I want to point out that some parts I just love.

Which bits are 70s?

Quote from: StrangeShape on Jan 25, 2011, 01:07:21 PM
Again, Goldsmith score is great, but it does sound 70s. Heres just one example of the often used, typical 70s cues - 2:34 to 2: 53 from http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8rkQgzVEWDo# (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8rkQgzVEWDo#) is one of those full on 70s scores. Compare to 2:45 to 3:00 from 76's King Kong for an example - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HpxPW_SB6iQ# (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HpxPW_SB6iQ#) Those are just quick and off the hat examples some out of many, they both sound 70s and for me the Goldsmith's score could be easily dated. Im a soundtrack buff and I listen to soundtracks all the time so maybe it sounds more apparent to me. Emphasis on same instruments, flute accents etc. The score contains many of the signature 70s score elements
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: SM on Feb 20, 2011, 10:53:23 PM
Not hearing anything especially "70s" in Alien.

That bit of King Kong reminds me of an old western, or maybe a cue out of something like Zulu (oddly enough since it's the same composer).  More 60s than 70s.
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: xenophobe on Feb 27, 2011, 11:08:52 PM
Alien then alien3 the rest are pretty lousy in my opinion
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: delsaber8 on Mar 01, 2011, 12:07:36 AM
Quote from: xenophobe on Feb 27, 2011, 11:08:52 PM
Alien then alien3 the rest are pretty lousy in my opinion
So you didn't like Aliens at all?
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: xenophobe on Mar 01, 2011, 11:21:07 PM
Maybe I was a little OTT I like some of the sets and the opening sequence was very beautiful (the interior of the narcissus)
but Burke and the marines especially killed it for me an alien infestation could have been a neat idea but the one liners and hi fives ruined the vibe for me I know it's a popular movie but missed the Mark for me and I found it more disappointing and shallow than objectionable.I'll probably get flamed as it seems
disliking aliens is illegal here but that's my opinion
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: delsaber8 on Mar 01, 2011, 11:43:01 PM
Quote from: xenophobe on Mar 01, 2011, 11:21:07 PM
Maybe I was a little OTT I like some of the sets and the opening sequence was very beautiful (the interior of the narcissus)
but Burke and the marines especially killed it for me an alien infestation could have been a neat idea but the one liners and hi fives ruined the vibe for me I know it's a popular movie but missed the Mark for me and I found it more disappointing and shallow than objectionable.I'll probably get flamed as it seems
disliking aliens is illegal here but that's my opinion
No it's cool I respect your opinion.
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: SM on Mar 02, 2011, 01:30:54 AM
Quote.I'll probably get flamed as it seems
disliking aliens is illegal here but that's my opinion

If you'd been here more than five minutes you'd know otherwise.
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: Omegamorph on Mar 05, 2011, 02:14:10 PM
Finished Friday with the Anthology.

Alien - 10/10
Aliens - 10/10
Alien3 - 9/10
Alien: Resurrection - 9.5/10

There are two 'blocks' in the Alien saga. First is composed of Alien and Aliens - the Masterpiece and his perfect sequel. Absolutely wonderful, never exhausting, classic films. Love them both in different ways - with Alien being only slightly better. They're that kind of films that give you so many feelings, so many thoughts, that you aren't always able to express them all, because you love them so much.
The second block is composed of Alien3 and Alien: Resurrection. Alien3 has a lot of things going for it as it has a lot of things that don't - wasted characters like Newt and Hicks (yes, this again!), or even Clemens, who was the most interesting of the characters in the film besides Ripley, and got nommed way before he could be developed properly. For the rest though, the film's got a very dramatic feel and works most of the times.
Alien: Resurrection is slightly better than Alien3 and represents an incredibly strong metaphor against genetic engineering, other than featuring a very clever twist - Ripley, resurrected, literally, finds herself closer to the Aliens against her will, and ironically, regains her human feelings through her relationship with Call, an android, that is more human than the humans.
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: War Wager on Mar 05, 2011, 04:55:13 PM
Quote from: OmegaZilla on Mar 05, 2011, 02:14:10 PM
Alien: Resurrection is slightly better than Alien3 and represents an incredibly strong metaphor against genetic engineering, other than featuring a very clever twist - Ripley, resurrected, literally, finds herself closer to the Aliens against her will, and ironically, regains her human feelings through her relationship with Call, an android, that is more human than the humans.

Word.

Rez really ain't as daft as people percieve it to be. It's a geat 'full circle' story arc for Ripley. She runs from the monster in the first film, faces it in the second, is ultimatley killed by it in the third and becomes it in the fourth.
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: Omegamorph on Mar 05, 2011, 06:39:33 PM
Quote from: War Wager on Mar 05, 2011, 04:55:13 PM
Rez really ain't as daft as people percieve it to be.
Yeah! People frequently list along the other things they dislike about the film 'Black Comedy', but there's practically none during the film! There's a single scene in the film that can be defined as such, that being Perez's death, and it's no worse than Andrews' demise in Alien3.
Alien: Resurrection is all but daft, and takes itself very seriously.

Quote from: War Wager on Mar 05, 2011, 04:55:13 PM
It's a geat 'full circle' story arc for Ripley. She runs from the monster in the first film, faces it in the second, is ultimatley killed by it in the third and becomes it in the fourth.
Precisely. It's a very twisted irony that works on a very subtle level. And the most ironic thing (notice the wording) is that she regains her humanity and her common sense not through a human - but through an Android! It's mind-blowing if you think of it.

In fact, as a side note, this time around I catched some nice subtleties that didn't understand previously. For example, Purvis and Wren's death - Wren 'put an Alien inside Purvis', condemning him to a horrible death, and he kills him by putting an Alien inside him. It's a very subtle irony right there.
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: Mus on Mar 05, 2011, 09:05:24 PM
Then there are the one-liners. I really miss those in Alien. Kane dies, and then a wise-cracking truck driver goes like "I guess he couldn't stomach it".
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: DoomRulz on Mar 05, 2011, 10:30:51 PM
It would have ruined the scene. Alien wasn't supposed to be comedic like that. Humour in that film was unintentional, I found. Ash spinning around violently and squealing isn't supposed to be comical because a major revelation occurs, but it just is.
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: SiL on Mar 05, 2011, 10:45:31 PM
To you.

Plenty of people shit bricks when it happened (His head coming off got just as many, if not more, people during the original release as the chest bursting).

Quote from: OmegaZilla on Mar 05, 2011, 06:39:33 PM
Alien: Resurrection is all but daft, and takes itself very seriously.
I'm all opposed to unnecessarily bashing AR as the next guy, but what is this shit honestly.

Paraphrasing, but;

"Waste'a f**kin' ammo! Must be a chick thing."
"Who do I have to f**k to get off this boat" -- "I can get you off. Maybe not the ship."
"My code is E-A-T-M-E."
"I can't believe I almost had sex with that." - "Yeah, like you never f**ked a robot."

AR doesn't take itself seriously. At all. Having a few themes doesn't mean you're all srs bsness. There's never a sense of urgency or threat, or that anyone's in danger, if only because after every life-threatening situation we're subject to two minutes of Whedon tough-guy talk and posturing.

Jeunet's direction doesn't help either. He's an excellent director, but he's much too stylised for this type of story. Any time someone talks about the film being daft I guarantee they'll also be thinking about his use of a large zoom-in (Well, push in, as the camera itself is moving) on a character during certain critical events -- Vriess being bled on, or Wren being choked, or Purvis about to go, etc. That sort of style typically just feels silly, especially given the content matter. It's too showy, too cartoonish; something that's painfully obvious when watching AR after any of the others.
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: ShadowPred on Mar 05, 2011, 10:57:40 PM
Quote from: DoomRulz on Mar 05, 2011, 10:30:51 PM
It would have ruined the scene. Alien wasn't supposed to be comedic like that. Humour in that film was unintentional, I found. Ash spinning around violently and squealing isn't supposed to be comical because a major revelation occurs, but it just is.


You're the only one who thinks it is, I don't even know how that could even be unintentionally funny.
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: Mus on Mar 06, 2011, 01:15:45 AM
Quote from: DoomRulz on Mar 05, 2011, 10:30:51 PM
It would have ruined the scene.

That was my point. Turns out the Internet still isn't the optimal medium for transitting sarcasm.
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: DoomRulz on Mar 06, 2011, 06:48:47 AM
Quote from: ShadowPred on Mar 05, 2011, 10:57:40 PM
Quote from: DoomRulz on Mar 05, 2011, 10:30:51 PM
It would have ruined the scene. Alien wasn't supposed to be comedic like that. Humour in that film was unintentional, I found. Ash spinning around violently and squealing isn't supposed to be comical because a major revelation occurs, but it just is.


You're the only one who thinks it is, I don't even know how that could even be unintentionally funny.

Ask around. I guarantee I'm not the only who found that scene funny.
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: ShadowPred on Mar 06, 2011, 06:55:09 AM
BULLSHIT!
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: DoomRulz on Mar 06, 2011, 06:58:51 AM
Says you, woman.
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: ShadowPred on Mar 06, 2011, 07:01:37 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=15cpQD5qEzI# (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=15cpQD5qEzI#)
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: DoomRulz on Mar 06, 2011, 07:13:27 AM
QuoteSays you, woman.
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: Omegamorph on Mar 06, 2011, 12:15:51 PM
Quote from: SiL on Mar 05, 2011, 10:45:31 PM
"Waste'a f**kin' ammo! Must be a chick thing."
"Who do I have to f**k to get off this boat" -- "I can get you off. Maybe not the ship."
"My code is E-A-T-M-E."
"I can't believe I almost had sex with that." - "Yeah, like you never f**ked a robot."
First line just demonstrates (to me, at least) that Johner knows f**k all of the pain Ripley just experienced - he's the kind of character that doesn't care for the others, and that line simply reinforces that he's an asshole. Like, Ripley just experienced and excruciating pain, and he says that??
Second line is sarcasm  - replied with a facepalm worthy statement (and that's part of the character of Johner, he's a cocky asshole)
Elgyn's code isn't anything wrong - and nothing worse than the Marine jokes in Aliens or some lines in Alien3.
Fourth line is, again, part of Johner's character, and sarcasm.
It's very subjective. That's how I see it anyway. :P

Quote from: SiL on Mar 05, 2011, 10:45:31 PM
AR doesn't take itself seriously. At all.
And that's for you I guess.
Clones, Newborn, deaths of Elgyn and Christie, 'death' of Call, dialogues between Call and Ripley in the chapel... nah, it doesn't take itself seriously!
Much like photographs, films can inspire different emotions, different thoughts - and what I've said is what Alien: Resurrection inspires me. There's very few things I don't like, and that's why it doesn't get the maximum rating from me. 
Regarding the zoom-in I can agree it feels a bit different from what we've seen before, undoubtely, fact that it is silly on the other hand, not very much. Or, at least, I didn't really think it was. :-\
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: SiL on Mar 06, 2011, 09:39:35 PM
Quote from: OmegaZilla on Mar 06, 2011, 12:15:51 PM
First line just demonstrates (to me, at least) that Johner knows f**k all of the pain Ripley just experienced - he's the kind of character that doesn't care for the others, and that line simply reinforces that he's an asshole.
Yes -- and in doing so, undermines the mood set up by the scene. As does Call's punching Wren in the face. The movie follows up one of its few emotional sequences with a one-liner clearly intended to draw a laugh from the audience and another quick part intended to make the audience laugh and cheer. Any kind of serious emotional investment is immediately lost.

Intentionally.

That's not a movie taking itself seriously.

QuoteClones, Newborn, deaths of Elgyn and Christie, 'death' of Call, dialogues between Call and Ripley in the chapel... nah, it doesn't take itself seriously!
You're right, it doesn't -- it throws in a one-liner or a lame joke or some forced reference at every opportunity during any scene which might lend the movie a serious tone. At every turn it tries to goad the audience into laughing or cheering when we should be going "Ohshit monsters" or giving a crap about the characters.

Besides, I don't see how the cloning aspect means the movie is taking itself seriously, and the shoddy handling of the Newborn speaks volumes to a tacked-on third-act boss fight "just because".
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: Omegamorph on Mar 06, 2011, 10:14:09 PM
Quote from: SiL on Mar 06, 2011, 09:39:35 PM
Yes -- and in doing so, undermines the mood set up by the scene.
Subjective. For me, makes only the character an asshole. We are shown prior that Johner is - and that's only a reinforcement.

Quote from: SiL on Mar 06, 2011, 09:39:35 PM
As does Call's punching Wren in the face.
Not anything worse than Ripley punching one of the prisoners after they attempted to rape her in Alien3. That was supposed to take a laugh as well - as other moments in the film are, like Andrews' demise, or the jokes between the Prisoners. Does that mean the film does not take itself seriously?

Quote from: SiL on Mar 06, 2011, 09:39:35 PM
when we should be going "Ohshit monsters" or giving a crap about the characters.
Underwater sequence, Elgyn's death, Christie's, 'Call's', Clones scene, Newborn birth and other examples - 'Ohshit Monsters' and 'giving a crap', all in there. Or at least from me - as said, films are photographs.

Quote from: SiL on Mar 06, 2011, 09:39:35 PM
Besides, I don't see how the cloning aspect means the movie is taking itself seriously,
Grotesque aspect of the clones, dramatic close-ups of Ripley, heart-breaking music.... no, nothing I guess, it's nothing serious, or trying to tell you something.

Quote from: SiL on Mar 06, 2011, 09:39:35 PM
and the shoddy handling of the Newborn speaks volumes to a tacked-on third-act boss fight "just because".
And that's another point we disagree a lot in - I didn't find the handling of the Newborn 'shoddy', could've been better in some ways, yes, but for me, 'shoddy' is an exaggeration. For the time the Newborn was onscreen, it was handled greatly.
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: SiL on Mar 06, 2011, 10:27:21 PM
Quote from: OmegaZilla on Mar 06, 2011, 10:14:09 PM
Not anything worse than Ripley punching one of the prisoners after they attempted to rape her in Alien3.
Entirely different context. Had Ripley punched Wren, it would've been fine, because she has every right to -- just like she had every right to smack Junior in the face after getting control taken from her. Wren's smug look, followed by Call doing the punching, is a cheap joke, especially followed by Johnner's line.

QuoteDoes that mean the film does not take itself seriously?
And again, differently handled -- and better, in Alien³'s case, as the jokes don't come as the punchline of a scene, like in Resurrection. They ease tension usually just before someone's brains becomes a six-foot long smear on the floor.

QuoteElgyn's death
See "forced reference".

Quote'Call's',
Never had a shit to give. But that's subjective.

QuoteNewborn birth
Not really "oh shit monsters" so much as "what the f**k is this shit".

QuoteGrotesque aspect of the clones, dramatic close-ups of Ripley, heart-breaking music.... no, nothing I guess, it's nothing serious, or trying to tell you something.
There's a difference between saying "clones" and "clone scene". And as I keep saying, that scene is immediately undermined by a double-hit of lame comedy.

A handful of serious beats throughout the film does not make up for the fact that the rest of the movie, and the payoff of much of those scenes, is a parade of bullshit caricature posturing and Whedon one-liners.

QuoteAnd that's another point we disagree a lot in - I didn't find the handling of the Newborn 'shoddy', could've been better in some ways, yes, but for me, 'shoddy' is an exaggeration.
Hardly. You don't throw something like that out of left field -- it's just shitty writing. There is literally no suggestion that anything like this is going to happen, no foreshadowing, nothing -- and then it just appears. Aliens at least had the characters speculate that there was some hitherto unseen larger creature; it planted the thought in the audience's mind and then gave a payoff.

Simply pulling the Newborn out of their ass was an atrocious way of going about it and flat-out terrible writing.
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: Valaquen on Mar 06, 2011, 10:50:10 PM
SiL vs OmegaZilla ... when an unstoppable force meets an immovable object :P
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: SM on Mar 06, 2011, 11:13:53 PM
Resurrection did take it self seriously.  Just not often enough.  And when it really did it well - like the chapel scene - the best bits got edited.  As much as I dig the film, stuff like the "must be a chick thing" does undermine the clone scene.
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: Omegamorph on Mar 07, 2011, 02:03:00 PM
Quote from: SiL on Mar 06, 2011, 10:27:21 PM
Call doing the punching, is a cheap joke
What's the... punchline (see what I did there? ;D) behind this joke?

Quote from: SiL on Mar 06, 2011, 10:27:21 PM
Not really "oh shit monsters" so much as "what the f**k is this shit".
'What the f**k is this shit' followed by 'oh shit Monster!'. :P

Quote from: SiL on Mar 06, 2011, 10:27:21 PM
that scene is immediately undermined by a double-hit of lame comedy.
The scene had already been done with. It's not undermined at all if you ask me - and that's subjectivity, again, because I take the aftermath of the clone scene through a different key of reading. What I've always got out of that line is 'what an idiot Johner is', I didn't laugh, nor cheer, or anything. It's a line right after one of the most excruciating moments in the Alien series, I can't laugh.
Besides, there's also a small sequence thereafter which shows Ripley leaning on a wall (which is most probably intended to refer to the previous scene - nothing's certain, but that's what I always took it as).

Quote from: SiL on Mar 06, 2011, 10:27:21 PM
There is literally no suggestion that anything like this is going to happen, no foreshadowing, nothing -- and then it just appears.
While I agree that they could've set up the mine at the beginning (or 1/3 through) and then blow it up at the climax, that take wasn't necessarily 'shoddy', as it has the (subjective) value of being, by all means, unexpected. During the film there are practically none hints at the thing, you don't know it will appear until when it does. When the Queen is giving birth to the new creature you don't know what's going on, you're confused, and then - the reveal. It's a powerful scene -  shows the unpredictability of the actions of those unscrupulous people, and serves as a nice, 'grotesque' counterpart of a Woman giving birth - Resurrection follows closely sex and birth undertones, there are other examples throughout the film, and the very score, according to composer John Frizzel, wanted to underline the subject.

As a closing line, I know that Alien: Resurrection isn't devoid of comedic moments - none of the Alien films are, after all - but what I am saying is that I think it's not daft, it's not stupid or overly self-teasing, or overly out-of-the-set-line as a lot of people make it out to be.
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: SiL on Mar 07, 2011, 09:49:08 PM
Quote from: OmegaZilla on Mar 07, 2011, 02:03:00 PM
'What the f**k is this shit' followed by 'oh shit Monster!'. :P
Except it spends half its screentime making baby eyes. It's way more "WTF" than "Oh no".

QuoteThe scene had already been done with.
Except it hadn't. Ripley torches Number 7 and walks out, and the scene and everything it set up is still going. And then before we go to the next scene we get Call punching Wren's smug face and Johnner acting like a douche. The scene's not done with until we cut to the next one.

Quotethat take wasn't necessarily 'shoddy', as it has the (subjective) value of being, by all means, unexpected.
No, dude; it's shoddy writing. This is not what I think. That's what it is. You don't pull something like that out of nowhere right at the end of your movie. You're throwing a massive curveball at the audience and leaving them scratching their head when they should be shitting their pants.

The Queen has one line of dialogue earlier in the movie, but it's enough to make her appearance seem like a natural thing to do. The Newborn literally pops up in the third act and heyo, we're expected to give a shit or feel threatened by it.

This is bad writing, any way you cut it.
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: SM on Mar 07, 2011, 09:53:27 PM
As I've been saying for years (after nicking the idea from someone else) - they should've stumbled across the Queen dead, which not only flags the presence of the boss monster, it creates tension among the characters and audience wondering what the hell could kill a Queen.

Whether the payoff of the reveal of the Newborn in it's current form would've worked.... ehhhh... dunno.
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: Omegamorph on Mar 08, 2011, 06:21:55 PM
Quote from: SiL on Mar 07, 2011, 09:49:08 PM
Ripley torches Number 7 and walks out, and the scene and everything it set up is still going. And then before we go to the next scene we get Call punching Wren's smug face and Johnner acting like a douche. The scene's not done with until we cut to the next one.
I take that.
Remains that I do not feel that those two things undermine the scene. I've never laughed at either, the first being just a thing I pass over with (without any real thing behind it except for Call being pissed off at Wren for what he has done - or to just give him the proper payment after Ripley decided to not roast him) and the second being something that allows me to identify Johner as a douche.
Besides, if those two moments are really comedy (as said, they'd be next to a ginormously emotional moment, I never laughed at them or felt they were supposed to give off a laugh), why'd they be enough to undermine the precedent scene? It's like saying that a good part of the major scenes in Lord of the Rings are ruined by some of Gimli's lines and dialogues with Legolas (which they aren't, at least for me).

Quote from: SiL on Mar 07, 2011, 09:49:08 PM
we're expected to give a shit or feel threatened by it.
...Experienced both. *Shrugs*
The threatment of the Newborn could've been better in some ways, but for what we got, I'd say that it was held off well.
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: Bloodee Jacob on Mar 09, 2011, 12:02:35 AM
The only film I have yet to see is Resurrection and honestly I am in no rush to see it. But probably will sometime in the near future just to complete the series. My favorites are either Alien or Aliens. Alien has the suspense edge but Aliens is more exciting, thrilling, and action. As well as the Colonial Marines! So give a slight edge to the 1986 masterpiece Aliens!
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: SM on Mar 09, 2011, 06:05:38 AM
Quote from: DarkenedWolf on Mar 09, 2011, 12:02:35 AM
The only film I have yet to see is Resurrection and honestly I am in no rush to see it. But probably will sometime in the near future just to complete the series. My favorites are either Alien or Aliens. Alien has the suspense edge but Aliens is more exciting, thrilling, and action. As well as the Corporal Marines! So give a slight edge to the 1986 masterpiece Aliens!

Only three of the marines were corporals - you didn't like the others?
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: Space Sweeper on Mar 09, 2011, 07:18:02 AM
Quote from: DarkenedWolf on Mar 09, 2011, 12:02:35 AM
As well as the Corporal Marines! So give a slight edge to the 1986 masterpiece Aliens!
Colonial Marines, for future reference.  :P
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: Bloodee Jacob on Mar 09, 2011, 08:23:22 PM
Misworded it. No need to have a couple people point it out.
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: Valaquen on Mar 09, 2011, 08:30:56 PM
Mm, internet pedanticism.
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: SiL on Mar 09, 2011, 09:32:38 PM
Had one person make a joke, and another actually corrected it.

Mm, mountain out of a molehill.
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: Valaquen on Mar 09, 2011, 09:40:39 PM
Mountain? Mound more like. Moving on.
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: SiL on Mar 09, 2011, 09:43:59 PM
And the hyperbole is missed! :P
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: Valaquen on Mar 09, 2011, 09:59:05 PM
Quote from: SiL on Mar 09, 2011, 09:43:59 PM
And the hyperbole is missed! :P
Damn  :-[
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: Space Sweeper on Mar 13, 2011, 11:18:39 AM
Quote from: DarkenedWolf on Mar 09, 2011, 08:23:22 PM
Misworded it. No need to have a couple people point it out.
Just giving you the correct name, man.
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: A Harmless Goat on Mar 13, 2011, 09:55:18 PM
My order is
Aliens
Alien
Alien Resurrection
Alien 3

The reason I prefer Aliens over Alien is because I like Sci-fi action/adventure movies for then sci-fi horror movies.
I thought Alien 3 was a load of garbage, I'm okay with them killing Hicks, Newt and Bishop, but their deaths should have been handled alot better, also the characters in Alien 3 are nowhere near as good as the characters in the first two movies.
I guess Alien 3 is a fine movie overall, but as a sequel to Aliens, its terrible.
And alot of fans seem to hate Resurrection, but I actually like it, pretty good movie until the Newborn comes in.
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: CavatinaTheXeno on Mar 18, 2011, 11:47:20 PM
Aliens, Alien3, Alien then Alien resurrection.
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: Sgt. Apone on Apr 10, 2011, 08:58:39 PM
My favorites in order

Alien
Aliens
Alien Res.
Alien 3
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: Omegamorph on Apr 10, 2011, 09:03:22 PM
Quote from: Sgt. Apone on Apr 10, 2011, 08:58:39 PM
My favorites in order

Alien
Aliens
Alien Res.
Alien 3
Hey, that's my precise order too.  ;)
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: SpreadEagleBeagle on Apr 10, 2011, 09:03:59 PM
1 - Alien
2 - Alien 3
(...big gap...)
3 - Aliens
4 - A:R
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: lozzy.94 on Apr 16, 2011, 04:33:02 PM
Aliens because it brought more action in the Franchise.
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: Mus on Apr 16, 2011, 05:19:38 PM
That's like saying you love eating soup with a fork.
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: First Blood on Apr 16, 2011, 05:24:35 PM
A L I E N
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: SpaceMarines on Apr 16, 2011, 05:25:31 PM
Quote from: First Blood on Apr 16, 2011, 05:24:35 PM
A L I E N

(https://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi104.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fm191%2FIzzys88%2FAlienSignature.gif&hash=20d3113e6af378821bf7b94df22d8646bb5bf983)
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: First Blood on Apr 16, 2011, 05:28:31 PM
That gif...damn that's nice.
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: delsaber8 on Apr 17, 2011, 01:53:58 AM
Quote from: Mus on Apr 16, 2011, 05:19:38 PM
That's like saying you love eating soup with a fork.
I eat soup with a fork all the time.
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: StrangeShape on Apr 17, 2011, 05:46:18 AM
Quote from: lozzy.94 on Apr 16, 2011, 04:33:02 PM
Aliens because it brought more action in the Franchise.

Thats a common misconception which I think is a misconception really, since it doesnt have more action than Alien. It has the same amount, , with the only difference being that the action is larger in scale. The pacing structure of the 2 is virtually the same - Nothing happens in the first 2/3 of the movie except for one major event (chestbursting/hive attack) that takes the story onto different track (trying to survive alien/s, panic and planning). For the last 1/3 it's a non stop action and fast pace in contrast to the rest of the movie. Both are pressed for time before the mass explosion at the end, Both have a false/double ending, in both we dont see an alien until hour into the movie. In both we know only as much as the characters.
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: Omegamorph on Apr 17, 2011, 12:32:21 PM
Quote from: StrangeShape on Apr 17, 2011, 05:46:18 AM
Thats a common misconception which I think is a misconception really, since it doesnt have more action than Alien. It has the same amount, , with the only difference being that the action is larger in scale.
There's your answer.
No grenades or weapons firing in Alien.
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: The Xenoborg on Apr 17, 2011, 01:53:42 PM
Alien,
Aliens and,
Alien³ in one bracket.

Alien: Resurrection in another bracket.

The first three defined the franchise and expanded on the establishment.

The 4th one, sabotaged the fame and name of the franchise and the only thing I like about it is the Aliens' intelligence and behavior. But I can still watch the movie numerous times.
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: StrangeShape on Apr 18, 2011, 01:30:31 AM
Quote from: OmegaZilla on Apr 17, 2011, 12:32:21 PM
Quote from: StrangeShape on Apr 17, 2011, 05:46:18 AM
Thats a common misconception which I think is a misconception really, since it doesnt have more action than Alien. It has the same amount, , with the only difference being that the action is larger in scale.
There's your answer.
No grenades or weapons firing in Alien.

Still, there no MORE action and its not ACTION packed. The action is bigger in scale, but theres no more than in Alien. Most of the movie is just doing nothing, its all tension and sitting barricaded. As in Alien
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: Valaquen on Apr 18, 2011, 02:04:35 AM
I wouldn't say it's action PACKED, but action is definitely the emphasis, whereas in Alien the emphasis is on suspense and then a quick kill. Aliens is about the suspense and then the long, drawn out battle for survival - action. It definitely introduced this to the series.
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: StrangeShape on Apr 18, 2011, 02:32:23 AM
Quote from: Valaquen on Apr 18, 2011, 02:04:35 AM
Aliens is about the suspense and then the long, drawn out battle for survival - action.

Which is what Alien is as well - long suspense and tension, and the once Ripley finds Lambert and Parker dead, its a non stop tense action till the end, which also, like in Aliens, is set up against time. Its trying to escape the location and alien/s which is about to blow, then making a run in the ship and finding out the alien left with you and eventually using the airlock to get rid of it. Same stuff, just grander in nature in Aliens
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: Valaquen on Apr 18, 2011, 02:48:45 AM
Quote from: StrangeShape on Apr 18, 2011, 02:32:23 AM
Quote from: Valaquen on Apr 18, 2011, 02:04:35 AM
Aliens is about the suspense and then the long, drawn out battle for survival - action.

Which is what Alien is as well - long suspense and tension, and the once Ripley finds Lambert and Parker dead, its a non stop tense action till the end, which also, like in Aliens, is set up against time. Its trying to escape the location and alien/s which is about to blow, then making a run in the ship and finding out the alien left with you and eventually using the airlock to get rid of it. Same stuff, just grander in nature in Aliens
Except that's the end of the movie which, although explosive, features a character running down a corridor. That's as actiony as Alien gets. Aliens has weaponry and all sorts of characters actively fighting for survival. That is a whole new level of action. Aliens has suspense, yes, but it also has balls-to-the-wall action. Even Cameron himself yells about this. I don't think anyone involved with Aliens has actually said that the movie is pretty much as actiony as Alien. Aside from the claxxons blazing on the Nostromo, I don't think Alien gets anywhere as nearly wild as Aliens does.
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: StrangeShape on Apr 18, 2011, 03:16:19 AM
Yeah, but my point is that theres no more action than in Alien, its just bigger action
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: Valaquen on Apr 18, 2011, 04:22:31 AM
I don't think so. What's comparable to the Hive ambush or the Operations attack? Not a couple of half-second flashes of the original Alien, surely?
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: StrangeShape on Apr 18, 2011, 04:36:36 AM
Quote from: Valaquen on Apr 18, 2011, 04:22:31 AM
I don't think so. What's comparable to the Hive ambush or the Operations attack? Not a couple of half-second flashes of the original Alien, surely?

Chestbursting was equivalent to hive attack because it was the first "action" sequence which drastically raised the blood pressure and which took the story to a different path, setting up what the movie will be about now - survival, planning, reactions of the characters. Operation ambush=Dallas in vents, it was inspired by it too with the whole motion tracker thing and not knowing which direction the aliens are coming from. Again, same amount of action, just bigger in scale
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: SiL on Apr 18, 2011, 04:47:56 AM
Except the escape in the vents in Aliens = Dallas in the vents. Also, surely the chestbursters would be equivalent -- Alien's scene ends immediately after, Aliens continues into a much broader piece.

What's the equivalent of Ripley going back to the hive?

Interestingly there are only about six major sequences and one minor-but-important sequence in either involving the Alien -- hugger, burster, Brett, Dallas, Parker/Lambert, air-lock at the end, Ripley in the shuttle; derelict, hive attack, sentry guns, operations/vents, Newt, Ripley in the hive and Ripley vs. Queen. But to say that they have the same amount of action is like saying Aliens has the same amount of action as a movie with just two people talking, but seven times one of the characters stands up and sits back down.
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: StrangeShape on Apr 18, 2011, 04:56:05 AM
Quote from: SiL on Apr 18, 2011, 04:47:56 AM
Except the escape in the vents in Aliens = Dallas in the vents. Also, surely the chestbursters would be equivalent -- Alien's scene ends immediately after, Aliens continues into a much broader piece.

What's the equivalent of Ripley going back to the hive?

Its basically a twist on Ripley going back to turn off the self destruct system - you have the voice reminding that the place is gonna blow, steam and warning lights everywhere, the place going apeshit and even Jerry's score when alien/queen reappears

QuoteInterestingly there are only about six major sequences and one minor-but-important sequence in either involving the Alien -- hugger, burster, Brett, Dallas, Parker/Lambert, air-lock at the end, Ripley in the shuttle; derelict, hive attack, sentry guns, operations/vents, Newt, Ripley in the hive and Ripley vs. Queen. But to say that they have the same amount of action is like saying Aliens has the same amount of action as a movie with just two people talking, but seven times one of the characters stands up and sits back down.

Well lets not clutch to words. I dont mean the exact same that we can count seconds, but I mean its certainly not any major or big shift or action packed. It more or less has the same amount of action and same pacing structure as ALien
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: Omegamorph on Apr 18, 2011, 01:29:14 PM
Quote from: StrangeShape on Apr 18, 2011, 01:30:31 AM
Still, there no MORE action and its not ACTION packed. The action is bigger in scale, but theres no more than in Alien.
And no ONE said it was ACTION packed. Lozzy just said it brought MORE action. Which it DID.  :P :laugh:
The action is indeed bigger in scale and also lasts longer. See beneath...

Quote from: StrangeShape on Apr 18, 2011, 04:36:36 AM
Chestbursting was equivalent to hive attack
In terms of 'first event', indeed. But the hive attack lasts incredibly longer, don't you think? All the action sequences last longer - and they are action sequences. There are not marines with guns firing in Alien. No grenades. No vehicle sequences. No mecha VS Boss Alien.
There's nothing wrong in saying that Aliens has more action than Alien, really. It does, but who cares? This fact really doesn't downgrade it, as Aliens certainly isn't one of those SHOOT-AND-BOOM (who-cares-for-the-rest) films. It isn't about the action only, but it does have more than Alien. :)

Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: StrangeShape on Apr 18, 2011, 01:36:39 PM
The point again is it doesnt and we're not talking about counting second, I tihnk my last 2 posts in this thread explained it best. It hits the same beats, just on bigger drums. I think calling it action packed or an action movie is a disservice  -  of course, theres nothing wrong with action movies, but action movies' focus is action, theyre built around it, they rely on it. Aliens relies on tension and through most of the movie its just sitting, dealing with the situation and stress and fear. For me at least thats where the essence and meat of the movie is, not shooting big guns. Theyre great but they just accent the story, not the other way around
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: Omegamorph on Apr 18, 2011, 01:52:03 PM
Quote from: StrangeShape on Apr 18, 2011, 01:36:39 PM
and we're not talking about counting second,
Whole sequences are hardly 'seconds'.

Quote from: StrangeShape on Apr 18, 2011, 01:36:39 PM
It hits the same beats, just on bigger drums.
The beats are very, very similar - however there's no real counterpart in Alien for scenes such as Ripley VS Queen, or the Dropship explosion, or the long run of the APC. There are bigger counterparts and complete additions. And it is totally warranted. It has to be original somehow, no?

Quote from: StrangeShape on Apr 18, 2011, 01:36:39 PM
I think calling it action packed or an action movie is a disservice
No one, again, called it action-packed. Just that it has more than Alien. Bringing more 'action' =/= being a complete action film, too.
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: StrangeShape on Apr 18, 2011, 02:09:08 PM
Quote from: OmegaZilla on Apr 18, 2011, 01:52:03 PM
Quote from: StrangeShape on Apr 18, 2011, 01:36:39 PM
and we're not talking about counting second,
Whole sequences are hardly 'seconds'.

I didnt mean that literally. Perhaps "time" would be a better word


QuoteThe beats are very, very similar - however there's no real counterpart in Alien for scenes such as Ripley VS Queen, or the Dropship explosion, or the long run of the APC. There are bigger counterparts and complete additions. And it is totally warranted. It has to be original somehow, no?

It IS original, but originality or not has nothing to do with it. The point is action is similar in meaning and structure and theres more or less the same amount of it. Queen vs Powerloader is basically Ripley vs Alien in Narcissus - both movies had a double ending, and in both it appeared it wasnt over when it seemed like it was over after a big explosion. If someone thinks Im  talking about repetetive scenes, thats not what Im talking about at all. Im talking about the amount of action sequences (and not the lenght of them either) and how they impact and flow with the story. Again, in both Alien and Aliens, nothing happens for half of the movie, its just a buildup. Then one major event happens  (Chestbursting in Alien, Failed hive attack in Aliens) which changes the course of the story (from planned return home/mission) into survival story. Then for a very long time nothing happens again for a long time aside from occasional small inserts (Brett&Dallas killed, Sentry Gun & facehuggers scenes), and then when the action starts (Ripley starting self desruc system, Ripley going back for Newt) with timer on to the explosion, it never releases till the explosion happens (Nostromo explodes, Hadley's Hope vaporized), then after a brief sight of relief it appears its not the end yet (Kane's son/Queen stowed in the ship) and last fight for survival commences after which the creature is hurdled into space.

So its not like Aliens is Rambo and loaded with action. It has the same pacing/structure and amount of action scenes as Alien


Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: Omegamorph on Apr 18, 2011, 02:25:47 PM
Quote from: StrangeShape on Apr 18, 2011, 02:09:08 PM
The point is action is similar in meaning and structure and theres more or less the same amount of it.
More. :P

Quote from: StrangeShape on Apr 18, 2011, 02:09:08 PM
Queen vs Powerloader is basically Ripley vs Alien in Narcissus
Kind'a no, because Ripley never phisically fights the Alien. It's a strategy on her side. With the Queen, she's literally bitchslapping her with the powerloader. It's a ground-down clash of (Wo)man and beast. The plot point is similar, but the execution is an action scene.

Quote from: StrangeShape on Apr 18, 2011, 02:09:08 PM
Then one major event happens  (Chestbursting in Alien, Failed hive attack in Aliens) which changes the course of the story (from planned return home/mission) into survival story. Then for a very long time nothing happens again for a long time aside from occasional small inserts (Brett&Dallas killed, Sentry Gun & facehuggers scenes), and then when the action starts (Ripley starting self desruc system, Ripley going back for Newt) with timer on to the explosion, it never releases till the explosion happens (Nostromo explodes, Hadley's Hope vaporized), then after a brief sight of relief it appears its not the end yet (Kane's son/Queen stowed in the ship) and last fight for survival commences after which the creature is hurdled into space.
Skeletal structure is similar, yeah, but flesh and muscles are another way around.

Quote from: StrangeShape on Apr 18, 2011, 02:09:08 PM
So its not like Aliens is Rambo and loaded with action.
*Inhale*
I didn't say it waaaaaaaas. :D
It just has more than Alien. More Action =/= Rambo levels of Action.
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: StrangeShape on Apr 18, 2011, 02:33:03 PM
Quote from: OmegaZilla on Apr 18, 2011, 02:25:47 PM
Quote from: StrangeShape on Apr 18, 2011, 02:09:08 PM
The point is action is similar in meaning and structure and theres more or less the same amount of it.
More. :P

Quote from: StrangeShape on Apr 18, 2011, 02:09:08 PM
Queen vs Powerloader is basically Ripley vs Alien in Narcissus
Kind'a no, because Ripley never phisically fights the Alien. It's a strategy on her side. With the Queen, she's literally bitchslapping her with the powerloader. It's a ground-down clash of (Wo)man and beast. The plot point is similar, but the execution is an action scene.

As I said, I dont mean repeating the scenes verbatim, That would make no sense. But both have alien stowing on a ship and then Mano-e-mano fight. Sure, one is on a much larger scale, but its still fight with an alien ending with an airlock exit. So again, Alien has as much action as Aliens, just scaled down. What happens in Narcissus IS action. So I dont agree that Aliens has considerably more action or is action packed. I know you didnt say it but Im just talking in general, since I hear that 'packed' term used often

QuoteSkeletal structure is similar, yeah, but flesh and muscles are another way around

I think a good way to express it would be to say that while yes, they have different muscles and flesh, one doesnt have more bones than the other. Just that one is built like a weightlifter and one isnt

Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: Omegamorph on Apr 18, 2011, 05:33:23 PM
Quote from: StrangeShape on Apr 18, 2011, 02:33:03 PM
But both have alien stowing on a ship and then Mano-e-mano fight.
There wasn't any fight in Alien. Ripley pulled the Alien's ass outta the mechanisms, opened the door, smashed the Alien's chest, blew him out with the thrusters. End. There wasn't any phisical confrontation - which was there in Aliens. From the same root, the fruit is different.

Quote from: StrangeShape on Apr 18, 2011, 02:33:03 PM
What happens in Narcissus IS action.
Of a different kind than what we see in Aliens, clearly not the same thing. That's what one can mean with 'more action'. Because the action in Aliens has guns and explosions in good quantity. That's what people recognize as action.

Quote from: StrangeShape on Apr 18, 2011, 02:33:03 PM
I know you didnt say it but Im just talking in general, since I hear that 'packed' term used often
I know and it's annoying sometimes, making it sound like that Aliens relies on the guns when it does not - it's a generalization.
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: StrangeShape on Apr 19, 2011, 12:38:47 AM
Quote from: OmegaZilla on Apr 18, 2011, 05:33:23 PM
Quote from: StrangeShape on Apr 18, 2011, 02:33:03 PM
But both have alien stowing on a ship and then Mano-e-mano fight.
There wasn't any fight in Alien. Ripley pulled the Alien's ass outta the mechanisms, opened the door, smashed the Alien's chest, blew him out with the thrusters. End. There wasn't any phisical confrontation - which was there in Aliens. From the same root, the fruit is different.

Again, it doesnt have toi be a mirror repetition. Physical or not, Ripley vs Alien one-on-one took place in Alien, and the point of all this is that there was also a one-on-one fight of Ripley with the Queen in Aliens. Whether theyre identical or not or technically physical or not doesnt matter, what matters is that there WAS such confrontation which goes back to the point that Aliens didnt suddenly inject tons of action since the amount of action, the meaning of the action and its flow and place in the story is the same

Quote
Quote from: StrangeShape on Apr 18, 2011, 02:33:03 PM
What happens in Narcissus IS action.
Of a different kind than what we see in Aliens, clearly not the same thing. That's what one can mean with 'more action'. Because the action in Aliens has guns and explosions in good quantity. That's what people recognize as action.

But thats not what action is. action doesnt equal or require weapons and big scale, action is a series of tense events, activity
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: Valaquen on Apr 19, 2011, 01:48:11 AM
I think you're ignoring the fact that there are scales of action. Crossing the road is action, running down the street is action, and combating a 14 foot tall Alien in a powerloader is action - all different degres. One is surely more bombastic and exciting than the other. Your point seems to stem from a dislike of the words 'action packed,' or at least other people's perception of it. But balking at calling Aliens an action film because of an apparent stigma on the genre is akin to saying Alien isn't horror, all because the genre is overpopulated by screaming teens. But Alien is a horror movie, and Aliens is action-orientated. James Cameron and Gale Hurd practically scream this in the docs. It's not something you can contest.
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: StrangeShape on Apr 19, 2011, 01:52:22 AM
Quote from: Valaquen on Apr 19, 2011, 01:48:11 AM
I think you're ignoring the fact that there are scales of action.

Absolutely not, I even repeated a few times that Aliens has action on a bigger scale, but Im saying it doesnt have "more" action. More not as in bigger, more as in plot consisting of primarily or substantially more scenes with activity than Alien, which as I compared before, is not the case. They have the same structure skeleton, only the muscles are beefed up in Aliens, but the body is the same
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: Valaquen on Apr 19, 2011, 02:10:07 AM
Quote from: StrangeShape on Apr 19, 2011, 01:52:22 AM
Absolutely not, I even repeated a few times that Aliens has action on a bigger scale, but Im saying it doesnt have "more" action. More not as in bigger, more as in plot consisting of primarily or substantially more scenes with activity than Alien, which as I compared before, is not the case. They have the same structure skeleton, only the muscles are beefed up in Aliens, but the body is the same
Aliens definitely has more action than Alien, same 'structure' or beats aside. It's not even an argument. Again, where is the Hive attack equivalent in Alien? A quick flash of the Alien snatching Brett? Or the dropship crash and tunnel sequence? Not comparable to the Dallas vent sequence in any way. Same trope, yeah, but absolutely not the same in action, length-wise, kintecism-wise, any-wise. This is a strange position to argue. You're even arguing with the director himself, who prided the fact that Aliens was such a U-turn from Alien, as well as the many people who praised the movie for its direction.
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: StrangeShape on Apr 19, 2011, 02:31:56 AM
Wait, we're talking about slightly different things I see since youre asking if chestbursting is like the major hive attack - again, I do acknowledge that the action is grander in scale, that theres more happening within the action sequences, but what Im saying is that there are no more action sequences

QuoteSame trope, yeah, but absolutely not the same in action, length-wise, kintecism-wise, any-wise. This is a strange position to argue

That Im not arguing at all
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: Mus on Apr 19, 2011, 10:51:14 PM
If you have two cakes, and the other one's bigger, is there not more of the other cake?
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: StrangeShape on Apr 20, 2011, 01:18:59 AM
Quote from: Mus on Apr 19, 2011, 10:51:14 PM
If you have two cakes, and the other one's bigger, is there not more of the other cake?

No. Its still one cake, even if bigger. Its still the same amount of cakes, just as theres the same amount of action in Alien and Aliens, even tho its bigger in one of them
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: SM on Apr 20, 2011, 01:38:32 AM
Eh?  The last 40 minutes of Aliens is one long action sequence, with a couple of brief pauses.  The last 40 minutes of Alien - isn't.

Just because there's always stuff happening in Alien doesn't make it an action flick.  Ripley interrogating Mother and later Ash aren't what anyone would call 'action' sequences.  Ripley running down corridors with flashing lights and smoke and not knowing if the Alien is around the next corner - are.
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: Mus on Apr 20, 2011, 01:46:41 AM
Quote from: StrangeShape on Apr 20, 2011, 01:18:59 AM
Quote from: Mus on Apr 19, 2011, 10:51:14 PM
If you have two cakes, and the other one's bigger, is there not more of the other cake?

No. Its still one cake, even if bigger. Its still the same amount of cakes, just as theres the same amount of action in Alien and Aliens, even tho its bigger in one of them

So 12 and 27 are the same amount, because both have two digits.
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: StrangeShape on Apr 20, 2011, 03:18:20 AM
Quote from: SM on Apr 20, 2011, 01:38:32 AM
Eh?  The last 40 minutes of Aliens is one long action sequence, with a couple of brief pauses.  The last 40 minutes of Alien - isn't.

Just because there's always stuff happening in Alien doesn't make it an action flick.  Ripley interrogating Mother and later Ash aren't what anyone would call 'action' sequences.  Ripley running down corridors with flashing lights and smoke and not knowing if the Alien is around the next corner - are.

Im not saying Alien is an action flick. But like in Aliens, last 40 minutes IS nonstop activity aka action. Ripley/Parker vs Ash IS action. Again, action doesnt equal weapons, its hightened activity
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: SM on Apr 20, 2011, 03:26:17 AM
Sitting talking about continuing with Dallas' plan isn't heightened activity, not is Ripley talking to Mother, nor is Ripley talking to Ash.  It's all interesting but very static. There's no movement.

Compare it to Aliens where it barely stops up from when Ripley and Newt are attacked by the huggers right to the end.
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: StrangeShape on Apr 20, 2011, 03:55:27 AM
Quote from: SM on Apr 20, 2011, 03:26:17 AM
Sitting talking about continuing with Dallas' plan isn't heightened activity, not is Ripley talking to Mother, nor is Ripley talking to Ash. 


Talking? No, but the subsequent fight is
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: StrangeShape on Apr 20, 2011, 04:13:47 AM
Again. Im talking about the amount of action sequences (and not the length or scale or amount of events within the action sequences of them either) and how they impact and flow with the story.

To make it as simple as possible

ALIEN

- nothing happens for half of the movie, its just a buildup
- Then one major event happens  (1).Chestbursting in Alien, which changes the course of the story into a different track, from planned return home into survival story
- While the characters are sitting thinking what to do next, nothing happens for a while again aside from 2 relatively brief action inserts - (2). Brett's death which alters the events even futher, showing that the alien is now big and lethal forcing them to alter plans and figure something new out and (3). Dallas' vents accident, which alters their plan again and makes them rethink their next move
- Then the crew realizes one of them was trying to sacrifice them to obtain the alien, trying to kill them to shut their mouth and not intervene, so (4).Ash tries to kill Ripley
- then the action that doesnt let go till the end starts after (5). Parker and Lambert get attacked and killed,
- (6). Ripley goes back into the bowels of the dying, alarming ship with timer closing in to the explosion that will vaporize it. Takes Jonesy and barely makes an escape from the exploding location
- After a brief sight of relief it appears its not the end yet, as it appears that Alien stowed in the ship, and (7).last conflict/fight for survival commences between Ripley and the alien after which the creature is hurdled into space.

ALIENS

- nothing happens for half of the movie, its just a buildup
- Then one major event happens  (1). Marines ambushed in the hive in Alien, which changes the course of the story into a different track, from planned rescue mission into survival story
- While the characters are sitting thinking what to do next, nothing happens for a while again aside from 2 relatively brief action inserts - (2). Ferro's and Spunkmeyer's deaths, which alter the events even further forcing them to alter plans and figure something new out and Atmosphere Processor starting to vent, which alters their plan again and makes them rethink their next move. (3). Sentry gun sweep happens
- Then the crew realizes one of them was trying to sacrifice them to obtain the alien, trying to kill them to shut their mouth and not intervene, so (4).Burke traps Ripley and Newt with 2 loose facehuggers
- then the action that doesnt let go till the end starts after (5). Vasquez, Hudson, Burke and Gorman get killed in Operations ambush,
- (6). Ripley goes back into the bowels of the dying, alarming Atmosphere Prcessor with timer closing in to the explosion that will vaporize it. Takes Newt and barely makes an escape from the exploding location
- After a brief sight of relief it appears its not the end yet, as it appears that Queen stowed in the ship, and (7).last conflict/fight for survival commences between Ripley and the Queen after which the creature is hurdled into space.

Point being, theres a bigger and louder action in Aliens, but theres not MORE action sequences in Aliens, its not like it suddenly packed the franchise with action and like if in Alien nothing happened
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: SM on Apr 20, 2011, 04:14:00 AM
No one's saying there's no action in Alien.  There's just a shitload more in Aliens.

It's like comparing a couple of setpieces Resurrection and AvP.  In Resurrection you have the Alien breakout and evacuation, and the flooded kitchen/ liftwell.  In AvP you have Grid vs. Predator and Queen vs. Lex and Predator.  The flooded kitchen/ lift well scene goes for longer than both major 'versus' bits of AvP combined, so one can argue there's more action in Resurrection.

And you missed the first major bit of Alien with Kane getting hugged, which occurs about a third of the way into the film.  With all the stuff you outlined for Aliens you've glossed over the fact that points 4, 5, 6 and 7 all run into each other.

With Alien after point 4, they stop for another 'dialogue' scene and talk to Ash.  And the rest of it is quite different from Aliens where you have Aliens coming left right and centre, where in Alien is more 'suspense' than 'action' because you're wondering if the Alien is going to come from the left, right or centre.
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: StrangeShape on Apr 20, 2011, 04:21:16 AM
I dont know if its miscommunication or simple disagreement, but I just dont have anything else to ad really without being repetitive. The amount of action is more or less the same, whether its bigger or smaller. Its roughly 7 action sequences in each

QuoteAlien is more 'suspense' than 'action' because you're wondering if the Alien is going to come from the left, right or centre.

I always say Alien relies on suspense (where is it gonna come from) while Aliens relies on tension (you dont know if the doors will hold)
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: DoomRulz on Apr 20, 2011, 04:23:31 AM
How is suspense any different from tension? You're left with the feeling of "What if?" in both situations.
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: StrangeShape on Apr 20, 2011, 04:27:19 AM
Quote from: DoomRulz on Apr 20, 2011, 04:23:31 AM
How is suspense any different from tension? You're left with the feeling of "What if?" in both situations.

Theyre often together, sure, but with suspense you more often dont know whats gonna happen and fi its gonna happen at all, for example the crew members walking alone in the dark - Bret gets killed alone, Parker doesnt, something may happen or not, something may jump put from somewhere or not at all. Tension is usually when something's happening and you dont know the outcome, all you can do is watch, hence the door holding up example
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: SM on Apr 20, 2011, 04:29:10 AM
I dunno.  Like Doom, I'm not seeing a difference.

As for the amount of action being the same, you clearly have quite a different definition of the word "action" when it comes to movie terminology.
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: StrangeShape on Apr 20, 2011, 04:29:35 AM
Forgot to address this too

Quote from: SM on Apr 20, 2011, 04:14:00 AM
With all the stuff you outlined for Aliens you've glossed over the fact that points 4, 5, 6 and 7 all run into each other.

With Alien after point 4, they stop for another 'dialogue' scene and talk to Ash. 

Its just one delay between 4 and 5, otherwise its "go till the end" non stop action


Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: Valaquen on Apr 20, 2011, 04:31:19 AM
You know, if one action scene lasts 5 seconds, and another lasts 3 minutes, there's still more action in the latter sequence even though they're both action sequences. You can't count all of the action scenes, say they're equal numerically, and then draw the line there. Aliens is absolutely action-packed in comparison, despite arguably sharing the same amount of action-specific scenes.
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: StrangeShape on Apr 20, 2011, 04:31:52 AM
Quote from: SM on Apr 20, 2011, 04:29:10 AM
I dunno.  Like Doom, I'm not seeing a difference.

It depends on perception, like the whole "great lengths" debate

QuoteAs for the amount of action being the same, you clearly have quite a different definition of the word "action" when it comes to movie terminology.


Not really, the definition of action is heightened activity, I think the disagreement here lies in the word "more" because I see you guys keep answering different things. Im talking about the amount of action sequences, you guys are talking about the scale and amount of the events within the action sequences
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: SM on Apr 20, 2011, 04:33:38 AM
Yeah, I wouldn't call Parker and Lambert loading up coolant and Ripley looking for Jones to be 'action' sequences of any measure against the action sequences of Aliens.  By that definition, them walking through the Derelict is an action sequence.
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: StrangeShape on Apr 20, 2011, 04:34:24 AM
Quote from: Valaquen on Apr 20, 2011, 04:31:19 AM
Aliens is absolutely action-packed in comparison, despite arguably sharing the same amount of action-specific scenes.

And thats really all Im saying and I agree with this sentence
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: StrangeShape on Apr 20, 2011, 04:35:16 AM
Quote from: SM on Apr 20, 2011, 04:33:38 AM
Yeah, I wouldn't call Parker and Lambert loading up coolant and Ripley looking for Jones to be 'action' sequences of any measure against the action sequences of Aliens.  By that definition, them walking through the Derelict is an action sequence.

No, but facing the Alien or Ash trying to kill Ripley is action
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: DoomRulz on Apr 20, 2011, 04:37:48 AM
StrangeShape, no double posting please. Just edit your previous post.
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: StrangeShape on Apr 20, 2011, 04:40:05 AM
Quote from: DoomRulz on Apr 20, 2011, 04:37:48 AM
StrangeShape, no double posting please. Just edit your previous post.

My bad, its just that for some reason this evening I cant edit my posts on this board. Nothing happens when I click save
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: Valaquen on Apr 20, 2011, 04:46:47 AM
Quote from: StrangeShape on Apr 20, 2011, 04:34:24 AM
Quote from: Valaquen on Apr 20, 2011, 04:31:19 AM
Aliens is absolutely action-packed in comparison, despite arguably sharing the same amount of action-specific scenes.

And thats really all Im saying and I agree with this sentence
I'm sure you said at some point thought that Aliens doesn't have more action than Alien. Maybe it has the same number of sequences you can call action, but they're at the opposite ends of the action spectrum, with one ultimately dedicating more time and attention to action than the other, despite sharing 'beats'.

I'm flummoxed.
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: SM on Apr 20, 2011, 04:48:09 AM
Quote from: StrangeShape on Apr 20, 2011, 04:35:16 AM
Quote from: SM on Apr 20, 2011, 04:33:38 AM
Yeah, I wouldn't call Parker and Lambert loading up coolant and Ripley looking for Jones to be 'action' sequences of any measure against the action sequences of Aliens.  By that definition, them walking through the Derelict is an action sequence.

No, but facing the Alien or Ash trying to kill Ripley is action

Not disputing that.  It's all the stuff in between.

On a different note, while watching Aliens last night it occurred to me that LV-426 has a retrograde rotation.  When Newt says "It'll be dark soon" etc and they watch the sunset, the AP Station is to right of frame.  The AP Station is south of the colony therefore Z2R is setting in the east.
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: StrangeShape on Apr 20, 2011, 05:09:21 AM
Quote from: Valaquen on Apr 20, 2011, 04:46:47 AM
Quote from: StrangeShape on Apr 20, 2011, 04:34:24 AM
Quote from: Valaquen on Apr 20, 2011, 04:31:19 AM
Aliens is absolutely action-packed in comparison, despite arguably sharing the same amount of action-specific scenes.

And thats really all Im saying and I agree with this sentence
I'm sure you said at some point thought that Aliens doesn't have more action than Alien. Maybe it has the same number of sequences you can call action, but they're at the opposite ends of the action spectrum, with one ultimately dedicating more time and attention to action than the other, despite sharing 'beats'.

I'm flummoxed.

Im just saying it has the same amount of action sequences, but I thought thats also the same as saying "same amount of action", therefore making the statement "more action" incorrect
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: Valaquen on Apr 20, 2011, 05:11:00 AM
It's not the same, Ade.
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: StrangeShape on Apr 20, 2011, 05:43:10 AM
Well, if its not I see where the miscommunication originates from then
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: SiL on Apr 20, 2011, 05:58:43 AM
Why would anyone interpret "More action" as just meaning more action scenes? ???
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: StrangeShape on Apr 20, 2011, 06:08:03 AM
Quote from: SiL on Apr 20, 2011, 05:58:43 AM
Why would anyone interpret "More action" as just meaning more action scenes? ???

bah, you guys must forgive me, English is my second language
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: SiL on Apr 20, 2011, 06:09:48 AM
Oh.

Perfectly valid reason. What's your first?
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: StrangeShape on Apr 20, 2011, 06:12:18 AM
Quote from: SiL on Apr 20, 2011, 06:09:48 AM
Oh.

Perfectly valid reason. What's your first?

Polish, although I do live in the States for few years but I still have some lose ends to tie as you can tell
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: SiL on Apr 20, 2011, 06:16:45 AM
I'd say I'm amazed at how well you can write English, but then I remember Joseph Conrad.

Friggin' self-taught Pole reinventing English literature grumble mutter
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: StrangeShape on Apr 20, 2011, 06:18:40 AM
Well, to be fair Im here for a couple of years already
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: DoomRulz on Apr 20, 2011, 02:46:17 PM
Quote from: SiL on Apr 20, 2011, 06:16:45 AM
I'd say I'm amazed at how well you can write English, but then I remember Joseph Conrad.

Friggin' self-taught Pole reinventing English literature grumble mutter

You sound jealous, lol
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: Valaquen on Apr 20, 2011, 05:23:01 PM
Quote from: StrangeShape on Apr 20, 2011, 06:18:40 AM
Well, to be fair Im here for a couple of years already
You have an amazing accent though. I mean, I've heard Poles speak English, and you can tell they're Polish. You sound like an Austrian  :laugh: No offense.
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: Darwinsgirl on Apr 20, 2011, 05:36:30 PM
With so many new members. And being its "Easter" season. I thought a mention of the "ALIEN Easter Egg" ;)

Ooops... ::) my appologies :P

http://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/index.php?topic=29789.msg652304#msg652304 (http://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/index.php?topic=29789.msg652304#msg652304)

one more time ;) :D
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: predxeno on Apr 20, 2011, 05:41:41 PM
The link doesn't lead anywhere. :(
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: StrangeShape on Apr 21, 2011, 01:34:49 AM
Quote from: Valaquen on Apr 20, 2011, 05:23:01 PM
Quote from: StrangeShape on Apr 20, 2011, 06:18:40 AM
Well, to be fair Im here for a couple of years already
You have an amazing accent though. I mean, I've heard Poles speak English, and you can tell they're Polish. You sound like an Austrian  :laugh: No offense.

None taken
(https://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.alienexperience.com%2Fgallery%2Falbums%2Fuploads%2Ffilms%2Faliens%2Fscreenshots%2FAliens_71.JPG&hash=1d187e88b5e3d201770507f6eaba795dd2220426)


:D Everyone says that tho, that I have an Austrian accent - well, thats the result of my efforts to shake off the Polish accent which I did, and as a side effect developing a new one that sounds like neither Polish nor American!
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: Ogata881 on May 21, 2011, 11:17:01 PM
Like someone said all the four movies are dated in a way.Alien has the spooky-creepy 70s thriller going on,Aliens is a balls to the wall 80s action flick,Alien 3 is a depressing and cruel film that almost plays like a long Nirvana video and Resurrection feels like typical late 90s-early 00s shock and edgy humor show.
Alien is still the least dated though.
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: Masseffect Freak on May 23, 2011, 12:32:16 AM
My favourite one is Aliens because well you gotta have marines fighting those xenomorphs, they just click man.  Like pizza and cheese.
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: King Rathalos on Jun 21, 2011, 01:17:05 AM
Aliens for me, everything about it is the kind of stuff I loved as a kid and still do and probably will for the rest of my life. Cool monsters, space marines fighting said monsters, futuristic weapons, robots/mecha (still don't know what to classify the PL :laugh:), and a squad of ultimate badasses, all mixed together to form the kind of movie I can watch over and over without getting tired of it. Not a lot of movies do that to me.
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: Signore Predatore on Jul 13, 2011, 06:28:52 AM
They said that Alien (1979) had a lot of sex scenes in it. Is that true?
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: DoomRulz on Jul 13, 2011, 05:29:55 PM
Who exactly is "they", the government? :P

But to answer your question, no.
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: Signore Predatore on Jul 13, 2011, 06:46:21 PM
Quote from: DoomRulz on Jul 13, 2011, 05:29:55 PM
Who exactly is "they", the government? :P

But to answer your question, no.
Like my friend from california and my other friends. They said that they had sex scenes on the movie. I guess they're wrong.
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: DoomRulz on Jul 13, 2011, 07:45:52 PM
There's a scene in which it's implied the Alien rapes Lambert, but it's left open to interpretation.
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: Sharp Sticks on Jul 13, 2011, 08:02:12 PM
Not really implied, fans just read too much into the scene.
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: SiL on Jul 13, 2011, 10:22:53 PM
Quote from: Sharp Sticks on Jul 13, 2011, 08:02:12 PM
Not really implied,
Except by some of those who made the scene. But what would they know.
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: StrangeShape on Jul 14, 2011, 12:17:21 AM
Quote from: SiL on Jul 13, 2011, 10:22:53 PM
Quote from: Sharp Sticks on Jul 13, 2011, 08:02:12 PM
Not really implied,
Except by some of those who made the scene. But what would they know.

I see just the opposite, which is no implication of rape at all - http://alienseries.blogspot.com/2011/03/principle-players-cast-character.html. (http://alienseries.blogspot.com/2011/03/principle-players-cast-character.html.) It seems like the implication is that she either died from a heart attack and /or got so banged up trying to escape or hide in the locker
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: SiL on Jul 14, 2011, 12:22:26 AM
"Some" being the key word. Ridley seems more than open to the idea.
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: StrangeShape on Jul 14, 2011, 09:00:34 AM
I remember it differently. Ill just quote Valaquen:

QuoteScott also dismissed the claim that the Alien was interested in the crew sexually. I mean, it wanted to use them as a means for reproduction, but it wasn't sexual, if you get my meaning [Lambert 'rape']. Can't find the quote right now, it's on my blog somewhere.
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: Omegamorph on Jul 14, 2011, 09:05:09 AM
What I was going to say, too, I remember that the actual intention was that Lambert died of fear.
Plus, 10 seconds of rape? Now that's a record.
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: Pn2501 on Jul 14, 2011, 09:07:51 AM
Quote from: OmegaZilla on Jul 14, 2011, 09:05:09 AM
What I was going to say, too, I remember that the actual intention was that Lambert died of fear.
Plus, 10 seconds of rape? Now that's a record.

He was only a few days old could have been a premature ejaculator. ;)
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: DoomRulz on Jul 15, 2011, 12:25:31 PM
Quote from: StrangeShape on Jul 14, 2011, 09:00:34 AM
I remember it differently. Ill just quote Valaquen:

QuoteScott also dismissed the claim that the Alien was interested in the crew sexually. I mean, it wanted to use them as a means for reproduction, but it wasn't sexual, if you get my meaning [Lambert 'rape']. Can't find the quote right now, it's on my blog somewhere.

He didn't rape her in the sense that KS thought Lambert was hot. He raped her in the same way a facehugger face-rapes its victims.
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: Omegamorph on Jul 15, 2011, 08:59:28 PM
So he implanted an Alien embryo in her womb? Kinky.
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: DoomRulz on Jul 16, 2011, 02:22:24 AM
Sure.
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: Stans on Aug 06, 2011, 07:04:44 AM
ALIEN, i love the mistery, terror, and the gigerezque elements, tha characters, good performance, the design of the alien, very biomechanoid, i like that.

secon place aliens, yeah the action is good and the surprise of the queen.

third place A:resucrection, i like the gore and black humor of that movie.

last place alien3 i know the production troubles and the foking stupid ideas by fox, poor fincher, but i dont like a3 so much, the special edition is better(except the ox bursting) but i still preffer the others.
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: delsaber8 on Aug 07, 2011, 02:48:38 AM
Well after watching alien again it has passed aliens for favorite alien movie. I guess, I never truly respected it as much until now.
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: m138jewski on Aug 10, 2011, 05:33:58 AM
people picked resurrection?   :'(
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: delsaber8 on Aug 10, 2011, 06:29:40 AM
To tell you the truth at one point I really liked resurrection....... those were dark days.
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: m138jewski on Aug 10, 2011, 06:54:48 AM
first step to recovery is admitting the problem
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: SizzyBubbles on Aug 16, 2011, 01:32:33 AM
ALL OF THEM.

But if you make make me choose...

-- Alien (and) Aliens
-- Alien: Resurrection
-- Alien 3

I could never choose between the 1st and 2nd films. It flips back and forth... the first one is soooo gooood and done sooooo well. The second one is great too with all the action and adventure. I just really enjoy Alien:Res, so many good parts! And i've just never really enjoyed the 3rd as much as the others... not sure why...
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: Enenra on Aug 24, 2011, 11:43:09 PM
Aliens, but its so close. I really love Alien but the inclusion of Colonial Marines edged it out. Barely.
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: PVTDukeMorrison on Aug 26, 2011, 03:35:03 AM
Favorite is Aliens, slightly off topic, whats the name of the song in this trailer and what movie is it from?
http://www.gametrailers.com/user-movie/usermovies/334214 (http://www.gametrailers.com/user-movie/usermovies/334214)
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: delsaber8 on Aug 26, 2011, 10:13:24 PM
I always loved that song, I would love to know the name as well.  :)
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: SizzyBubbles on Aug 27, 2011, 06:26:41 AM
Favorite Alien movie?

ALL OF THEM!!!1!
Spoiler
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Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: Gosutoraida on Sep 30, 2011, 05:56:40 PM
I love the first three Alien movies equally. I like Aliens a little bit more though. You understand more about these creatures and how they work as a hive. I loved Alien and Alien 3 just the same. Alien is where we discover about the Alien and know it's capacity. Alien 3 is where the film gets dark but still remains faithful. Even though, I disliked the fact they killed off Newt, Hicks and blown Bishop into smitherings. Alien Resurrection...well, "Shit Happens.."
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: StrangeShape on Oct 01, 2011, 03:53:26 PM
Quote from: JokerJohn35 on Sep 30, 2011, 05:56:40 PM
I love the first three Alien movies equally. I like Aliens a little bit more though. You understand more about these creatures and how they work as a hive. I loved Alien and Alien 3 just the same. Alien is where we discover about the Alien and know it's capacity. Alien 3 is where the film gets dark but still remains faithful. Even though, I disliked the fact they killed off Newt, Hicks and blown Bishop into smitherings. Alien Resurrection...well, "Shit Happens.."

My thoughts exactly, Im the same way
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: King Rathalos on Oct 01, 2011, 10:14:07 PM
Quote from: JokerJohn35 on Sep 30, 2011, 05:56:40 PM
I love the first three Alien movies equally. I like Aliens a little bit more though. You understand more about these creatures and how they work as a hive. I loved Alien and Alien 3 just the same. Alien is where we discover about the Alien and know it's capacity. Alien 3 is where the film gets dark but still remains faithful. Even though, I disliked the fact they killed off Newt, Hicks and blown Bishop into smitherings. Alien Resurrection...well, "Shit Happens.."

Agreed. :)
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: Waldo on Oct 03, 2011, 03:33:54 PM
I voted for Alien, but really I love the first two equally. I like the third one despite it's flaws and I would say the fourth is... okay-ish.
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: kevinh3 on Oct 08, 2011, 05:43:41 AM
its a tie between alien and alien 3 for me
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: Gash on Oct 08, 2011, 10:10:24 PM
It's a tie between  A    L    I    E    N   and   A    L    I    E    N  : The Director's Cut for me.
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: Snowdog on Oct 08, 2011, 10:12:09 PM
Aliens is my favorite. Alien and Alien3 are a tie for me.
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: NUB DESTROYER on Oct 08, 2011, 10:14:06 PM
Aliens
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: MemphisRains on Oct 14, 2011, 02:51:52 PM
Aliens my favorite, then Alien...Alien 3-4 not so much
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: Inverse Effect on Oct 29, 2011, 08:05:51 AM
Aliens because it has the perfect mix of action, character development, horror and awesomeness.
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: StayFrosty on Oct 29, 2011, 11:13:15 AM
For me, it's a close tie between ALIEN and ALIENS, but ALIEN wins it.

ALIEN is just so intriguing and beautiful. The Nostromo is basically a character in itself... what an awesome set. Then there's the character development, the awesome acting (they even talk over eachother like in real life), etc. You don't see many movies with such a small cast, let alone a successful one. Then there's the fact that this was the introduction of the ALIEN as a franchise. You don't know what's going to happen.... the plot just keep shifting into something else until you have this FREAK creature going around picking everyone off. It really captures the horror the crew was going through, and gives you a realistic perspective. All the little plot details really just make the film seem more real. You get little random events instead of conveniently just placing the Alien into the plot... first there's the derelict, the space jockey, then the plot swerve with Ash, etc. Even the landing on LV-426 doesn't go as planned. Today in Hollywood, you really don't get plot devices like this, and instead you just see a plot that moves too quickly into the main point and theme it's trying to make, detracting a lot of realism from its story. The concept of the derelict in ALIEN is very bizarre, the fossilization, etc. The directors could have taken the easy route and just have the Nostromo crew discover the eggs on the planet, instead we get all these other details which are a lot more like how an alien discovery could actually take place in real life. It feels like a real space expedition on a foreign planet. And much more could be added to the analysis of what a great movie ALIEN is.

ALIENS is great too, but more straight forward.

Alien3 and Resurrection aren't too good. I used to like Alien3 but I'm beginning to think it sucks. AVP I thought was "OK".... I haven't fully watched AVPR yet. I tried watching it the other day but couldn't even get through it. I could go watch it now, but instead I think I'm gonna go make some popcorn and a milkshake, and watch ALIEN.

So...

1. ALIEN
2. ALIENS
(big gap)
3. AVP
4. ALIEN3
5. ALIEN RESURRECTION
6. AVP: R
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: Basher917 on Oct 30, 2011, 02:45:52 AM
why the f**k do people hate Alien3? past the egg on Sulaco i Don't see any problem with the film,
in fact it's an excellent film and i like it as much as Aliens
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: The Xenoborg on Oct 30, 2011, 06:28:44 AM
Quote from: Basher917 on Oct 30, 2011, 02:45:52 AM
why the f**k do people hate Alien3? past the egg on Sulaco i Don't see any problem with the film,
in fact it's an excellent film and i like it as much as Aliens
Same. I used to hate it, but I don't hate it now.
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: aliennaire on Oct 30, 2011, 01:16:10 PM
I chose Aliens, though this film and its original predecessor occupy exactly the same parts in my heart. I just have seen them in reverse chronology first, and that's why.

What about Alien^3 and A:R - I don't consider them such realistic, influential, perturbing and ...carrying simple and positive ideas, as Alien and Aliens have within. I simply don't take them serious :-)
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: Ripley7 on Nov 01, 2011, 11:04:31 AM
I love the all out war of Aliens, the chilling suspense of Alien and the Dark Horror of Alien 3, I really can't choose between them! however Alein Resurrection does have elements of being a great movie! its a shame Ripley 8 didn't have a slap down with an Alien, that would have made the movie!!
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: The Xenoborg on Nov 05, 2011, 03:53:35 PM
Quote from: Ripley7 on Nov 01, 2011, 11:04:31 AM
its a shame Ripley 8 didn't have a slap down with an Alien, that would have made the movie!!
I think she did rip off the inner-mouth of an Alien. That's enough violence for me.
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: DoomRulz on Nov 06, 2011, 01:22:52 AM
Quote from: Ripley7 on Nov 01, 2011, 11:04:31 AM
its a shame Ripley 8 didn't have a slap down with an Alien, that would have made the movie!!

That would have made the film even dumber than it already was. Thank God it didn't happen.
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: Lost Predator on Nov 14, 2011, 01:53:43 AM
Even though I feel the original Alien is superior to all, my favorite to watch is Aliens. It has it all; action, suspense, plot, etc.

I used to dislike Alien 3, but after watching it when it was first released on VHS I grew to like it. However after growing up and learning more and more about it, I've once again fallen into the dislike (but not hate) the movie. The biggest thing for me, is the situation with the alien seems to play second fiddle, which wasn't the case in the previous two movies.
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: The Xenoborg on Nov 16, 2011, 05:37:32 PM
Wow, I'd hate to be that movie. :(
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: whiterabbit on Nov 18, 2011, 01:12:30 PM
Aliens is my favorite although alien is one of the few movies to ever actually scare me. Then again I was only a kid when I saw it. Alien 3 was quite good if only it was a stand alone movie imo. Alien resurrection... meh I still watch it. I also liked the avp and avpr movies. I honestly don't know why people get so grumpy over them. imo they're not canon to either franchise but just good old entertainment. Oh ok, I thought the acting was lame in both of them but that's not the creatures fault. I really hope they complete the trilogy with the 3rd film.
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: StayFrosty on Nov 19, 2011, 10:28:36 AM
Quote from: whiterabbit on Nov 18, 2011, 01:12:30 PM
Aliens is my favorite although alien is one of the few movies to ever actually scare me. Then again I was only a kid when I saw it. Alien 3 was quite good if only it was a stand alone movie imo. Alien resurrection... meh I still watch it. I also liked the avp and avpr movies. I honestly don't know why people get so grumpy over them. imo they're not canon to either franchise but just good old entertainment. Oh ok, I thought the acting was lame in both of them but that's not the creatures fault. I really hope they complete the trilogy with the 3rd film.


Welcome to the Forum!

And yeah, I pretty much agree with everything you said. I just don't think there will be a 3rd AVP film.... if there is, it probably won't be for like 10 years, and then it will be a stand-alone film that won't follow the first two.

Yeah, all the movies can be entertaining. And I also view Alien3 that it would have been better as some stand-alone film that doesn't take place within any given franchise. I love the art work in it, the prison colony, etc. It's quite unique. But it should have been some other vicious creature, not a Xenomorph. It could have been an Emmy-award winning film.

But I do get angry over the films, because they tend to screw up the continuity of the first two. There's all these lame events like Hicks and Newt being killed, Ripley being cloned, etc. Most of it uses too convenient of plot-devices which is just typical Hollywood, and it doesn't make sense. So it can be quite insulting to the realism and brilliance of the first two films.
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: The Collector on Nov 24, 2011, 06:59:00 PM
Alien Resurrection, Alien 3, Aliens, Alien..

My favorite alien film is Alien Resurrection regardless the trash talking people give it.. its still my favorite.
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: Gosutoraida on Nov 24, 2011, 07:47:15 PM
If you guys ask me, AVP killed Alien and AVP:R nailed the coffin shut. And 'The Collector', why do you like the Alien films the most back-to-back? Alien or Aliens are usually considered fan-favourites.
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: The Collector on Nov 24, 2011, 08:05:12 PM
Quote from: JokerJohn35 on Nov 24, 2011, 07:47:15 PM
If you guys ask me, AVP killed Alien and AVP:R nailed the coffin shut. And 'The Collector', why do you like the Alien films the most back-to-back? Alien or Aliens are usually considered fan-favourites.

idk... Alien Resurrection was my favorite.. really loved the Newborn and the story of it. Alien 3 was my second favorite because of the plot and the alien.
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: Space Jockey King on Nov 24, 2011, 08:31:49 PM
Quote from: The Collector on Nov 24, 2011, 08:05:12 PM
Quote from: JokerJohn35 on Nov 24, 2011, 07:47:15 PM
If you guys ask me, AVP killed Alien and AVP:R nailed the coffin shut. And 'The Collector', why do you like the Alien films the most back-to-back? Alien or Aliens are usually considered fan-favourites.

idk... Alien Resurrection was my favorite.. really loved the Newborn and the story of it. Alien 3 was my second favorite because of the plot and the alien.

A L I E N is the all time favorite nothing can beat it! :D
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: Gosutoraida on Nov 25, 2011, 06:53:18 PM
I can say A:R had better acting than AVP:R for certain, but they both lacked a great story. While the Newborn wasen't such a bad idea, it looked terrible. It took away most of the Alien's features; Acidic blood (although it dosen't really bleed, the hole in the glass didn't melt as his insides were going through), an inner jaw and an exoskeloten. One could say that while the entire body is endo, his head is exo. Im glad they scrapped the original idea to have mixed genetilia too. Alien 3 was pretty good but was more of a darker film than the previous ones, which I liked.
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: Gunflyer on Nov 30, 2011, 11:58:42 PM
If we want to get really technical, my favorite alien movie is Close encounters of the Third kind.
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: BobGrill on Dec 01, 2011, 12:20:20 AM
I have two favorites. Alien and Aliens. To me one is not better than the other. They are both great in their own ways.
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: Valaquen on Dec 01, 2011, 12:20:32 AM
Quote from: Gunflyer on Nov 30, 2011, 11:58:42 PM
If we want to get really technical, my favorite alien movie is Close encounters of the Third kind.
Yeah but, y'know ...  ;)
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: BobGrill on Dec 01, 2011, 12:24:11 AM
Funny that someone said that the thing they liked most about Ressurection was the newborn, when that's the thing I hated most about it. It lacks the menace of the original creatures and frankly just looks stupid. And people are allowed to have opinions as long as they discuss them in a civalized manner. Just because many of us dislike Ressurection doesn't label us as "trash talking."
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: PredatorSlayer on Dec 02, 2011, 02:26:17 AM
Aliens, Aliens, Alien 3... uh... umm... yeah... that's my order.
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: Gunflyer on Dec 02, 2011, 03:42:46 AM
Quote from: PredatorSlayer on Dec 02, 2011, 02:26:17 AM
Aliens, Aliens, Alien 3... uh... umm... yeah... that's my order.
There were two movies names Aliens?
Quote from: BobGrill on Dec 01, 2011, 12:24:11 AM
Funny that someone said that the thing they liked most about Ressurection was the newborn, when that's the thing I hated most about it. It lacks the menace of the original creatures and frankly just looks stupid. And people are allowed to have opinions as long as they discuss them in a civalized manner. Just because many of us dislike Ressurection doesn't label us as "trash talking."
I'll tell you what I did like about Alien Resurrection was the Newborn ripping off the face of the Queen Alien. But then again, the birthing of such a creature makes no damn sense at all. How the hell does a Queen Alien have a uterus? Then again even though that makes sense it is interesting and a little mind-blowing.
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: BobGrill on Dec 02, 2011, 04:23:59 AM
The queen from Aliens would have ripped that thing a new one.
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: Gash on Dec 02, 2011, 07:39:22 PM
A       L       I       E       N

Quatermass and the Pit

War of the Worlds (George Pal)

The Andromeda Strain




Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: The Golden Fox on Dec 02, 2011, 10:05:11 PM
1. 'Alien'
2. 'Alien 3'
3. 'Aliens'.

The third one has the most rewatch-value, in my opinion, but the vent and egg-morph scenes in the first film make it a brilliant horror movie, in my opinion.
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: AVPVT Extinction on Dec 03, 2011, 02:20:08 PM
In Order (with reason):

1.  "Alien" because of the atmosphere and set design  -  9/10 (Favorite)

2.  "Aliens" because of the smart move by James Cameron to change theme into an action movie   -  9/10

3. "Alien 3" because they killed off Newt and Hicks, another smart move by filmmakers  -  7.5/10

4.  "Alien: Resurrection" because of the music and weird-looking set design created by a fantastic artist   -  7/10 (Least Favorite)
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: georgeromero on Dec 12, 2011, 07:42:56 PM
Until now it was Aliens but right now it looks like a cartoon so i prefer Alien³. It's grittier and more dramatic. + It has some scary moments like the first Alien.
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: Valaquen on Dec 12, 2011, 07:43:59 PM
Quote from: georgeromero on Dec 12, 2011, 07:42:56 PM
It has some scary moments like the first Alien.
Does it? Not in my copy  :P
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: georgeromero on Dec 12, 2011, 08:14:30 PM
Well, it seems like i have a different "copy". The one that's scarier and darker than Aliens.
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: Valaquen on Dec 12, 2011, 08:21:06 PM
So long as you enjoy it.
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: aliennaire on Dec 13, 2011, 02:39:03 PM
Quote from: Valaquen on Dec 12, 2011, 07:43:59 PM
Quote from: georgeromero on Dec 12, 2011, 07:42:56 PM
It has some scary moments like the first Alien.
Does it? Not in my copy  :P
Not in me both, *sighs*, but you know, tastes differ and have a trend to change, sometimes  ;)
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: atlantis on Dec 13, 2011, 03:30:45 PM
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Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: Dragonflies-and-Dalmatians on Dec 13, 2011, 07:12:51 PM
Aliens. No contest. Not only is it my favourite of the franchise but its my favourite movie ever and has been since I was about 13. I'm in a constant state of indecision over just who is going to be the future Mr. Springsteensgirl - Hicks or Hudson?

My Nan's bought me a book on Ellen Ripley for Christmas. BEST. NAN. EVER.
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: Gunflyer on Dec 15, 2011, 07:10:52 AM
In fairness I think the Predator movies should be included. On that basis, and i know this is going to sound crazy but my favorite Alien movie is Predators. Sorry, I'm just really partial to those guys.  ;D
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: SiL on Dec 15, 2011, 08:44:59 AM
... the f**k ???
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: SM on Dec 15, 2011, 09:56:29 AM
You're right - it does sound crazy.  And more besides.
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: BobGrill on Dec 16, 2011, 01:51:23 AM
Quote from: Gunflyer on Dec 15, 2011, 07:10:52 AM
In fairness I think the Predator movies should be included. On that basis, and i know this is going to sound crazy but my favorite Alien movie is Predators. Sorry, I'm just really partial to those guys.  ;D

Well this thread is exclusively for the Alien franchise.
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: Gunflyer on Dec 16, 2011, 02:28:29 AM
What? Predators AREN'T Aliens? Because if we wanted to be more specific, and I'm sorry if this sounds too anal, but maybe the thread should have been titled Favorite Xenomorph Movie.
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: SpaceMarines on Dec 16, 2011, 04:24:54 AM
'Cept there's no movie called Xenomorph. The IS one called Alien, however. Perhaps you've heard of it?

And Predators aren't Aliens. They are aliens, however. There's a distinction.
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: The Xenoborg on Dec 16, 2011, 04:42:27 AM
Quote from: Gunflyer on Dec 16, 2011, 02:28:29 AM
What? Predators AREN'T Aliens? Because if we wanted to be more specific, and I'm sorry if this sounds too anal, but maybe the thread should have been titled Favorite Xenomorph Movie.
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Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: SiL on Dec 16, 2011, 04:48:32 AM
Quote from: Gunflyer on Dec 16, 2011, 02:28:29 AM
What? Predators AREN'T Aliens? Because if we wanted to be more specific, and I'm sorry if this sounds too anal, but maybe the thread should have been titled Favorite Xenomorph Movie.
Xenomorph means "alien shape", so if you're going to continue being anal, that still includes Predators.
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: The Xenoborg on Dec 16, 2011, 04:54:54 AM
Quote from: SiL on Dec 16, 2011, 04:48:32 AM
Quote from: Gunflyer on Dec 16, 2011, 02:28:29 AM
What? Predators AREN'T Aliens? Because if we wanted to be more specific, and I'm sorry if this sounds too anal, but maybe the thread should have been titled Favorite Xenomorph Movie.
Xenomorph means "alien shape", so if you're going to continue being anal, that still includes Predators.
Even the term 'E.T.s' would include both Aliens and Predators.

And E.T.
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: SpaceMarines on Dec 16, 2011, 04:56:58 AM
And hell, the Alien is a predator, so that means....

What the hell does that mean?
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: BobGrill on Dec 16, 2011, 05:14:45 AM
Quote from: Gunflyer on Dec 16, 2011, 02:28:29 AM
What? Predators AREN'T Aliens? Because if we wanted to be more specific, and I'm sorry if this sounds too anal, but maybe the thread should have been titled Favorite Xenomorph Movie.

Stop being a smart ass and playing word games with us. You know what we meant. This thread is in the section titled "ALIEN FILMS", implying that any thread in this section is supposed to be related to the Alien films.
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: Omegamorph on Dec 16, 2011, 08:03:17 PM
It should be quite obvious that 'Alien' with capital 'A' is a term used to indicate the antagonist species in the Alien films.
Don't feed the troll guys.
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: The Xenoborg on Dec 17, 2011, 01:00:02 AM
May this be heard by all!
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: Gunflyer on Dec 17, 2011, 01:22:58 AM
Quote from: BobGrill on Dec 16, 2011, 05:14:45 AM
Stop being a smart ass and playing word games with us. You know what we meant. This thread is in the section titled "ALIEN FILMS", implying that any thread in this section is supposed to be related to the Alien films.
I sincerely apologize.
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: Kol on Dec 17, 2011, 02:08:24 AM
alien, alien³, aliens, and that '97 sci-fi monster movie
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: SpaceMarines on Dec 17, 2011, 07:16:15 AM
Quote from: OmegaZilla on Dec 16, 2011, 08:03:17 PM
It should be quite obvious that 'Alien' with capital 'A' is a term used to indicate the antagonist species in the Alien films.
Don't feed the troll guys.

But now I'm thinking... both are aliens AND predators.

Nothing makes sense anymore! It's all confusion, chaos, anarchy!
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: SizzyBubbles on Dec 17, 2011, 07:21:37 AM
Quote from: SpaceMarines on Dec 17, 2011, 07:16:15 AM
Quote from: OmegaZilla on Dec 16, 2011, 08:03:17 PM
It should be quite obvious that 'Alien' with capital 'A' is a term used to indicate the antagonist species in the Alien films.
Don't feed the troll guys.

But now I'm thinking... both are aliens AND predators.

Nothing makes sense anymore! It's all confusion, chaos, anarchy!

*screams, waves arms, then runs and jumps out nearest window.*
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: Omegamorph on Dec 17, 2011, 03:10:11 PM
Quote from: SpaceMarines on Dec 17, 2011, 07:16:15 AM
But now I'm thinking... both are aliens AND predators.
Presence of, respectively, capital A and capital P should erase any doubt.
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: DoomRulz on Dec 18, 2011, 01:30:46 AM
Sarcasmz. SpaceMarines haz it.
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: Alien Jockey on Dec 25, 2011, 01:01:51 AM
Aliens
Alien
Alien 3
alien resurrection

Anyone who chooses alien 3 or alien resurrection as their first favorite alien movie is out of their minds.
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: BobGrill on Dec 25, 2011, 06:30:10 AM
Alien 3 still is a pretty decent sequel.
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: Spidey3121 on Dec 25, 2011, 07:00:59 AM
Quote from: Alien Jockey on Dec 25, 2011, 01:01:51 AM
Aliens
Alien
Alien 3
alien resurrection

Anyone who chooses alien 3 or alien resurrection as their first favorite alien movie is out of their minds.

A lot of people here are on the Alien 3 bandwagon. I too love it far more than most, though i do rank it behind the first two. Together they make for a great trilogy. Shame about Resurrection. And i'm not hating on AR; only that it feels less & less like a sequel and more & more like an offshoot.
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: Lt. Mike Harrigan on Dec 25, 2011, 12:13:08 PM
Alien
Alien 3
Aliens
Alien: Resurrection

Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: EEV-2501 on Dec 25, 2011, 10:11:41 PM
Alien
Alien 3
Aliens
Resurrection
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: squonk on Jan 01, 2012, 08:15:11 PM
Alien
Alien 3
Aliens
Alien Resurrection
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: AlexVelez on Jan 01, 2012, 08:24:12 PM
Judging by which films I've seen the most...

Aliens
Alien
Alien Resurrection
Alien 3
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: BobGrill on Jan 08, 2012, 08:00:29 PM
I agree about the perfect trilogy statement. Alien 3 was a good way to end the story. I'd like to give this film a more in depth review sometime. It is not a bad movie by any means, I personally quite like it. The problem is when you come right down to it, IT'S JUST NOT AS GOOD AS THE FIRST TWO. I typed that in caps because I think that is really the bottom line when it comes to that film. It's pretty much the last good Alien film. However it just doesn't have the same appeal as the first two movies.
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: SizzyBubbles on Jan 10, 2012, 04:26:38 AM
"favorite alien movie?"

ALL OF THEM
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: Company Man on Jan 20, 2012, 03:22:28 AM
I rank them in the order they were released.
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: Space7Horror on Jan 20, 2012, 08:39:27 PM
Aliens then alien then alien 3 then alien res but I would rather watch them in order
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: QuantumSheep on Jan 23, 2012, 02:51:06 AM
I used to like Aliens a fair bit, but now the more I think about it the more I see wrong with it.

1. Alien
2. Alien 3
3. Aliens
4. Alien Resurrection

Each have a predominant, central "theme" of some kind:

Alien (Suspense)
Alien 3 (Drama)
Aliens (Action)
Alien Resurrection (Bizarre)
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: The Thing from Another World on Jan 30, 2012, 07:40:40 PM
my favorites would have to be Alien, Aliens, Alien 3, and last and surely least A:R. The series sure went downhill by the end. :(
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: SizzyBubbles on Feb 03, 2012, 08:33:04 PM
Quote from: QuantumSheep on Jan 23, 2012, 02:51:06 AM
I used to like Aliens a fair bit, but now the more I think about it the more I see wrong with it.

1. Alien
2. Alien 3
3. Aliens
4. Alien Resurrection

Each have a predominant, central "theme" of some kind:

Alien (Suspense)
Alien 3 (Drama)
Aliens (Action)
Alien Resurrection (Bizarre)

Hmmm, good point. I never really noticed that!


Anyway for me:

Alien/Aliens
Alien Res
Alien3

Its really hard for me to choose between Alien and Aliens... i REALLY like them both... but i might have to tip more toward the 1st is i really had to choose :) As for Alien3... i love it! but just never was really as crazy about it as i was the others... dunno why...
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: aliennaire on Feb 04, 2012, 10:22:18 PM
Quote from: SizzyBubbles on Feb 03, 2012, 08:33:04 PM
Its really hard for me to choose between Alien and Aliens... i REALLY like them both...
Exactly my situation.  ;D
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: SizzyBubbles on Feb 05, 2012, 05:08:05 AM
Quote from: aliennaire on Feb 04, 2012, 10:22:18 PM
Quote from: SizzyBubbles on Feb 03, 2012, 08:33:04 PM
Its really hard for me to choose between Alien and Aliens... i REALLY like them both...
Exactly my situation.  ;D

RIGHT?! Life is hard...
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: Novak 1334 on Feb 09, 2012, 02:49:25 AM
Alien 3
Alien
Aliens
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: chrisr232007 on Feb 09, 2012, 02:54:27 AM
Quote from: Novak 1334 on Feb 09, 2012, 02:49:25 AM
Alien 3
Alien
Aliens

WOW
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: Basher917 on Feb 09, 2012, 03:09:21 AM
Quote from: chrisr232007 on Feb 09, 2012, 02:54:27 AM
Quote from: Novak 1334 on Feb 09, 2012, 02:49:25 AM
Alien 3
Alien
Aliens

WOW

What? He just stated how much he liked each movie in order from 1st to 2nd to 3rd.
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: chrisr232007 on Feb 09, 2012, 03:24:36 AM
Quote from: Basher917 on Feb 09, 2012, 03:09:21 AM
Quote from: chrisr232007 on Feb 09, 2012, 02:54:27 AM
Quote from: Novak 1334 on Feb 09, 2012, 02:49:25 AM
Alien 3
Alien
Aliens

WOW

What? He just stated how much he liked each movie in order from 1st to 2nd to 3rd.

Yes I know this just saying WOW thats all....I am free to state my opinion about someones opinion. 
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: Basher917 on Feb 09, 2012, 03:33:46 AM
Quote from: chrisr232007 on Feb 09, 2012, 03:24:36 AM
Quote from: Basher917 on Feb 09, 2012, 03:09:21 AM
Yes I know this just saying WOW thats all....I am free to state my opinion about someones opinion. 

I never said that!
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: Novak 1334 on Feb 09, 2012, 05:06:14 AM
Obviously impressed by lists  ;D
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: stephen on Mar 19, 2012, 03:42:12 AM
Quote from: QuantumSheep on Jan 23, 2012, 02:51:06 AM
Each have a predominant, central "theme" of some kind:

Alien (Suspense)
Alien 3 (Drama)
Aliens (Action)
Alien Resurrection (Bizarre)

Actually thats more a genre then a theme.  Theme would be more like:

Alien - Rape??
Aliens - Family mother/daughter "would you go into the pits of hell to save your daughter"
Alien 3 - Sacrifice
Alien Res - What makes us human

Now having said that I find it most interesting that the film that has the least in it in terms of themes is Alien, and the most is probably Alien 3.  Now I don't like Alien 3 BECAUSE of it's theme and I quite like Alien despite it's lack of one.

As far as Alien Res is concerned - I don't think it was executed as well as it could have been and ultimately it was quite poor.

And Aliens - I think had the best theme (personal taste) out of all of them and was executed better then any of them.
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: Cvalda on Mar 19, 2012, 04:32:50 AM
ALIEN over all. Though my ranking list goes like this:

Alien
Alien³: Assembly Cut
Aliens
Alien Resurrection
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: Nostromo70 on Mar 21, 2012, 07:12:38 PM
Alien then Aliens, followed by Alien 3 and Alien Resurrection.
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: Ulfer on Mar 23, 2012, 10:34:43 PM
Alien first, then Aliens and then the rest.

Alien Resurrection is a special case. I like it, maybe because I'm French, and Jean-Pierre Jeunet realized it. More seriously, I like it, but I think of it more as a spin-off than as a sequel, for many reasons of style, tone and story. Alien 3 is to me a valid end to the series, that would thus be a trilogy. The assembly cut makes the movie better, but alas it spoiled its potential, in my humble opinion. As many other fans, I think that Hicks and Newt's deaths were too much. Aliens is a beloved classic now. But Alien... Only the designs by Giger and others, the Derelict, the Space Jockey, the Alien, the Nostromo, are masterpieces. The movie is as cleverly built as its monster is scary and at the same time marvelous and intriguing.
I hope that Prometheus will be at least equal to Aliens in my scale, but if it manages to get on the same level than Alien, I will be pleased...
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: Hudson on Mar 23, 2012, 11:32:14 PM
I agree that Alien is the only film in the series that has to be objectively be seen as a masterpiece. I think it really did but a cap on the monster movie genre; no film in that genre has surpassed its greatness.
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: Valaquen on Mar 24, 2012, 12:18:27 AM
Quote from: Hudson on Mar 23, 2012, 11:32:14 PM
I agree that Alien is the only film in the series that has to be objectively be seen as a masterpiece.
Objectively? If so, then Aliens is likewise an Oscar winner with far-ranging influence, an impeccable RT score, heaps of awards and fans in the professional filmmaking arena, yadda yadda... Objectively speaking, it's a cultural milestone and critical and commercial blowaway. What's the criteria for being a masterpiece if not the above? :D
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: Cvalda on Mar 24, 2012, 12:25:37 AM
Quote from: Valaquen on Mar 24, 2012, 12:18:27 AM
If so, then Aliens is likewise an Oscar winner with far-ranging influence, an impeccable RT score...
Is RT an abbreviation of "retread," because that would be a pretty apt description, actually. ;D Considering how much of the score is Horner recycling his earlier scores and ripping off other composers wholesale :P
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: Hudson on Mar 24, 2012, 12:31:29 AM
Quote from: Valaquen on Mar 24, 2012, 12:18:27 AM
Quote from: Hudson on Mar 23, 2012, 11:32:14 PM
I agree that Alien is the only film in the series that has to be objectively be seen as a masterpiece.
Objectively? If so, then Aliens is likewise an Oscar winner with far-ranging influence, an impeccable RT score, heaps of awards and fans in the professional filmmaking arena, yadda yadda... Objectively speaking, it's a cultural milestone and critical and commercial blowaway. What's the criteria for being a masterpiece if not the above? :D

Yeah, well a large chunk of people around here run their mouths about how dated Aliens is. Sure, being successful at the time is all well and good. Alien is probably the only film in the series that has been critically endeared with the same enthusiasm since its release and will probably endure the same response forever.
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: Valaquen on Mar 24, 2012, 12:36:54 AM
Quote from: Hudson on Mar 24, 2012, 12:31:29 AM
Yeah, well a large chunk of people around here run their mouths about how dated Aliens is.
But we're speaking objectively. The opinions of a few don't really factor. Some run their mouths off about how boring Citizen Kane or The Godfather is, and still...
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: Hudson on Mar 24, 2012, 12:43:09 AM
Alien is really the only film in the series that revolutionized an entire genre, as Dan O'Bannon said they closed it out, or however he put it. It basically bitch slapped every monster movie before 1979 and since. John Carpenter said otherwise, but he's been more or less useless based on the films I've seen from him other than The Thing. After Star Wars convinced audiences it was okay to go to the movies and have fun again, Alien grabbed them and made them take science fiction seriously.

Aliens isn't really a revolutionary film. There are excellent special effects, but the basic concept is Starship Troopers + Vietnam. It made some steps in the direction of female action heroins, etc. and presented some good feminist themes but that didn't really stop with Aliens like improvements to the monster movie genre stopped with Alien.
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: StrangeShape on Mar 24, 2012, 12:45:57 AM
Quote from: Hudson on Mar 24, 2012, 12:43:09 AM
but the basic concept is Starship Troopers + Vietnam.

To be fair, its not about the basic concept more so than about the detail and execution. Alien's story is banally simple and was done 4 times before alien with same scenario - ship lands on a planet due distress signal, lifeform gets onboard, they cant kill it and at the end it gets jettisoned into space. But it was the mastercraft of Ridleys vision and feel and Gigers design that made ALL the difference
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: Hudson on Mar 24, 2012, 12:49:14 AM
Quote from: StrangeShape on Mar 24, 2012, 12:45:57 AM
Quote from: Hudson on Mar 24, 2012, 12:43:09 AM
but the basic concept is Starship Troopers + Vietnam.

To be fair, its not about the basic concept more so than about the detail and execution. Alien's story is banally simple and was done 4 times before alien with same scenario - ship lands on a planet due distress signal, lifeform gets onboard, they cant kill it and at the end it gets jettisoned into space. But it was the mastercraft of Ridleys vision and feel and Gigers design that made ALL the difference

I agree completely. And I hear arguments that Cameron's vision and feel has lost its flare since 1986, while I've never heard anyone say that any of the gusto of Alien has dissipated since '79.

I'm making a case for Alien as essentially being the classiest and most artistically perfect of the Alien films, but for the record my favorite film ever is Aliens.
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: StrangeShape on Mar 24, 2012, 12:54:08 AM
Quote from: Hudson on Mar 24, 2012, 12:49:14 AM
Quote from: StrangeShape on Mar 24, 2012, 12:45:57 AM
Quote from: Hudson on Mar 24, 2012, 12:43:09 AM
but the basic concept is Starship Troopers + Vietnam.

To be fair, its not about the basic concept more so than about the detail and execution. Alien's story is banally simple and was done 4 times before alien with same scenario - ship lands on a planet due distress signal, lifeform gets onboard, they cant kill it and at the end it gets jettisoned into space. But it was the mastercraft of Ridleys vision and feel and Gigers design that made ALL the difference

I agree completely. And I hear arguments that Cameron's vision and feel has lost its flare since 1986, while I've never heard anyone say that any of the gusto of Alien has dissipated since '79.

I'm making a case for Alien as essentially being the classiest and most artistically perfect of the Alien films, but for the record my favorite film ever is Aliens.

I know where youre getting at, the first movie was really something revolutionary with the whole truckers in space approach and unique monster design. As far as critical and fan acclaim tho, first two movies seem to be put on pedestals of the same heights. Example

Rotten Tomatoes

Alien 97%
Aliens 100%

Box Office Mojo

Alien - majority voted A 1,346 58.9%
Aliens - majority voted A 1,639 61.9%

IMDB

Rankings

Alien 8.5/10 (172,582 votes)
Aliens - 8.5/10 (150 000 votes)

Yahoo

Alien - B+ based on 42594 reviews
Aliens - B+ based on 22070 reviews

Metacritic

Alien - 83
Aliens - 87

Also, Entertainment Weekly named Aliens as the second-best action movie of all time, behind Die Hard. Both movies are currently in the top 10 on the Rotten Tomatoes list of the best science fiction movies

I think RT summed it up best

ALIEN
Not only does it represent the dawn of high-concept film pitches (it was billed as "Jaws in space") and the birth of a successful series,but director Ridley Scott's 1979 Alien remains a suspense-filled benchmark for sci-fi thrillers to this day. It isn't so much that the story is original -- screenwriter Dan O'Bannon quipped that he "stole it from everybody" -- but that it's written, filmed, and acted so flawlessly. And to think, the script was originally titled Space Beast, almost sold to Roger Corman rather than Fox

A modern classic, Alien blends science fiction, horror and bleak poetry into a seamless whole.


ALIENS
Aliens is a fast-paced, high-intensity thrill ride that set a new standard for action films and cemented director James Cameron's status as one of Hollywood's leading directors following the success of The Terminator. Weaver received an Academy Award nomination and became a feminist hero for her strong, sensitive performance as the survivor Ripley, while costars Reiser, Henriksen, and Bill Paxton all give career-making performances in this landmark sci-fi extravaganza that made the 1986 Time Magazine cover.

Cameron's genius here lies in manipulating the tension, beautifully structuring the switches from build-up, to carnage, to unbearable waiting, to action

Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: Hudson on Mar 24, 2012, 01:31:42 AM
Eh, yeah I guess you're right.
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: DoomRulz on Mar 24, 2012, 02:07:54 PM
People preferring Aliens over Alien is not surprising considering most movie goers would rather watch a fast paced action flick than a slow and methodical sci-fi horror movie.
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: StrangeShape on Mar 24, 2012, 02:22:38 PM
Quote from: DoomRulz on Mar 24, 2012, 02:07:54 PM
People preferring Aliens over Alien is not surprising considering most movie goers would rather watch a fast paced action flick than a slow and methodical sci-fi horror movie.

No its not a fast paced action flick. The climax is, not the movie. Almost entire movie is one slow buildup and all of the critical acclaim talks about how the movie focuses on characters as oppose to most other scifi movies and how the tension and structure is well done. None of them focuses on action. Giger commented in the 80s that he wouldve preferred a regular pace instead of a movie being one buildup towards one big climax, so he recognizes such structure too. And both movies, by directors admission, for stylistic continuity, have the same pacing structure:  Nothing happens throughout almost an entire movie and we dont even get to see an alien untill over an hour, like in original alien. Nothing happens in the first 2/3 of the movie except for one major event (chestbursting/hive attack) that takes the story onto different track (trying to survive alien/s, panic and planning). For the last 1/3 it's a non stop action and fast pace in contrast to the rest of the movie. Both have a false happy ending. In both we know only as much as the characters.

Theres also the same amount of action, with the difference being the scope/scale of it
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: Omegamorph on Mar 24, 2012, 02:23:25 PM
Count in length and kind of action.
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: StrangeShape on Mar 24, 2012, 02:24:06 PM
Quote from: OmegaZilla on Mar 24, 2012, 02:23:25 PM
Count in length and kind of action.

Yes, that too. "Kind" I already mentioned as "scope/scale"
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: Omegamorph on Mar 24, 2012, 02:27:47 PM
Whoops, sorry man. My bad.
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: Valaquen on Mar 24, 2012, 02:37:16 PM
Quote from: Hudson on Mar 24, 2012, 12:49:14 AM
I'm making a case for Alien as essentially being the classiest and most artistically perfect of the Alien films, but for the record my favorite film ever is Aliens.
I only addressed your calling of Alien as the only objective masterpiece (revolutionary had nothing to do with it - you don't have to be revolutionary to be a masterpiece), when both films are roundly called masterpieces, not just by fans, but by the industry.
Quote from: DoomRulz on Mar 24, 2012, 02:07:54 PM
People preferring Aliens over Alien is not surprising considering most movie goers would rather watch a fast paced action flick than a slow and methodical sci-fi horror movie.
A faced paced action movie where we don't see a creature for the first hour, and with a total of three (Hive, Operations, and Nest-Sulaco) action sequences? As said before, the finale of the film isn't the sum of the film. The suspense in the film was ratcheted so high that Roger Ebert complained of knots in his stomach for weeks.
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: StrangeShape on Mar 24, 2012, 02:39:31 PM
And also, apparently moviegoers DO like seeing slow paced methodical horrors if they rank one just as high
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: Hudson on Mar 24, 2012, 03:58:49 PM
QuoteThe suspense in the film was ratcheted so high that Roger Ebert complained of knots in his stomach for weeks.

Yeah, I was going to bring that up. I think he described the film as making him really uncomfortable, but also recognized that it was an awesome movie.
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: aliennaire on Mar 24, 2012, 08:26:09 PM
I didn't read a lot of analysises on difference between Alien and Aliens, and what makes Cameron's film to look more action movie in comparison to the first one, but my personal explanation for this is because Aliens has bigger variety of places when events happen (Narcissus, Gateway's medical room, conference room, Ripley's cubicle, Sulaco... APC... LV-426...) and characters on screen are always busy with something, whether it is work or friendly chatter. Thus, the density of events/persons for footage is higher, making the film to seem more action-filled, than its ancestor, with no bigger number of violent scenes here. THe simple way I distinguish it.
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: Hudson on Mar 24, 2012, 09:29:39 PM
I think it's classified as an action film because people are firing machine guns, grenade launchers, and flamethrowers. Not because Ripley wakes up from a nightmare in her apartment on a space station after she goes to a meeting in a conference room.
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: SiL on Mar 24, 2012, 10:16:03 PM
Quote from: StrangeShape on Mar 24, 2012, 12:54:08 AM
Rotten Tomatoes

Alien 97%
Aliens 100%
Alien has more positive reviews than Aliens on RT, but it also has one or two negative reviews, hence the lower percentage.

Not to poo-poo the RT score, it's just interesting to note. On the flipside, while Aliens has less votes than Alien on the IMDb, it has more 9/10 or 10/10 ratings.
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: Cvalda on Mar 24, 2012, 11:17:04 PM
Quote from: SiL on Mar 24, 2012, 10:16:03 PM
Alien has more positive reviews than Aliens on RT, but it also has one or two negative reviews, hence the lower percentage.
The only two negative reviews for ALIEN on RT are from short-sighted critics from 1979 whose opinions are laughable today. Annoying. >:(
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: StrangeShape on Mar 24, 2012, 11:28:17 PM
Quote from: SiL on Mar 24, 2012, 10:16:03 PM
Quote from: StrangeShape on Mar 24, 2012, 12:54:08 AM
Rotten Tomatoes

Alien 97%
Aliens 100%
Alien has more positive reviews than Aliens on RT, but it also has one or two negative reviews, hence the lower percentage.

Not to poo-poo the RT score, it's just interesting to note. On the flipside, while Aliens has less votes than Alien on the IMDb, it has more 9/10 or 10/10 ratings.

Sure,  I realize that. The point was just that both are very well acclaimed by both audience and critics. I wasnt trying to make a competition
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: Don PapI on Mar 25, 2012, 12:11:15 AM
ALIENS 4 ever¡¡  :laugh:
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: Valaquen on Mar 25, 2012, 12:37:48 AM
Quote from: Cvalda on Mar 24, 2012, 11:17:04 PM
Quote from: SiL on Mar 24, 2012, 10:16:03 PM
Alien has more positive reviews than Aliens on RT, but it also has one or two negative reviews, hence the lower percentage.
The only two negative reviews for ALIEN on RT are from short-sighted critics from 1979 whose opinions are laughable today. Annoying. >:(
Some of them are admittedly hilarious though. "Disco inspired art direction." Wh-aaat? :P
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: Cvalda on Mar 25, 2012, 12:51:23 AM
Quote from: Valaquen on Mar 25, 2012, 12:37:48 AM
Some of them are admittedly hilarious though. "Disco inspired art direction." Wh-aaat? :P
I assume he means the strobe lighting in the last act. Still supremely stupid.
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: aliennaire on Mar 25, 2012, 10:05:45 AM
Quote from: Hudson on Mar 24, 2012, 09:29:39 PM
I think it's classified as an action film because people are firing machine guns, grenade launchers, and flamethrowers. Not because Ripley wakes up from a nightmare in her apartment on a space station after she goes to a meeting in a conference room.
Yes, I guess, it's a crusial definition of action movie, but despite of flaunting weapons in Aliens on great scale, they don't use them most of time, and the very first shooting is stupidly redundant (Drake fires at Newt, but Hicks lifts up the smartgun with the barrel of his rifle).

Quote from: Cvalda on Mar 25, 2012, 12:51:23 AM
Quote from: Valaquen on Mar 25, 2012, 12:37:48 AM
Some of them are admittedly hilarious though. "Disco inspired art direction." Wh-aaat? :P
I assume he means the strobe lighting in the last act. Still supremely stupid.
Sounds like Alien's POV on that scene: F**k you with all those disco lights, I'd better sneak in the lifeboat.   :P
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: HappyAlien on Apr 04, 2012, 01:32:43 AM
How the hell did Alien Resurrection get 33 votes! I can see how some people like Alien 3 but isn't it really a pale shadow of the first film. For me there can really be only 2 films in this series that you can vote for. Even if i pick Aliens i can understand why someone may pick Alien it is a superior film in many regards. But Alien Resurrection c'om on! Really?
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: SM on Apr 04, 2012, 01:37:08 AM
Wouldn't it be great if everyone had the exact same opinion!
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: First Blood on Apr 04, 2012, 01:42:04 AM
Curse me for preferring Alien³ over Aliens!
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: Cvalda on Apr 04, 2012, 01:47:53 AM
Quote from: First Blood on Apr 04, 2012, 01:42:04 AM
Curse me for preferring Alien³ over Aliens!
We're just not true fans. :P
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: DoomRulz on Apr 04, 2012, 01:54:43 AM
Quote from: First Blood on Apr 04, 2012, 01:42:04 AM
Curse me for preferring Alien³ over Aliens!

I do to. It's more entertaining I find.
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: First Blood on Apr 04, 2012, 02:00:04 AM
And I find Ripley's plight a hell of a lot more engrossing.

Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: Nightmare Asylum on Apr 04, 2012, 02:06:53 AM
I personally prefer Aliens, but Alien 3 is not a bad film at all (quite good considering all the behind the scenes stuff), and I have respect for all involved for making a pretty good film despite all that stuff.

But Alien always has been, and probably always will be, my favorite.
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: HappyAlien on Apr 04, 2012, 04:22:00 AM
I can understand someone prefering Alien 3 to Aliens as Alien 3 is more of a horror film and i undesrtand a lot of Alien fans don't like Jim Cameron's action/adventure take on the franchise. But if your more into horror films then Alien is the perfect horror film not Alien 3! As for Resurrection its really the Batman and Robin (1997) of Alien films! Of course until the AVP films came along!
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: Cvalda on Apr 04, 2012, 04:25:03 AM
Quote from: HappyAlien on Apr 04, 2012, 04:22:00 AM
As for Resurrection its really the Batman and Robin (1997) of Alien films!
Hardly. Resurrection is an interesting, well-made film in its own right--it just doesn't fit well with the original trilogy.
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: Crazy Rich on Apr 04, 2012, 04:53:00 AM
Quote from: Cvalda on Apr 04, 2012, 04:25:03 AM
Quote from: HappyAlien on Apr 04, 2012, 04:22:00 AM
As for Resurrection its really the Batman and Robin (1997) of Alien films!
Hardly. Resurrection is an interesting, well-made film in its own right--it just doesn't fit well with the original trilogy.

Hmmm, well, that floats my boat.
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: stephen on Apr 04, 2012, 05:48:59 AM
Quote from: Cvalda on Apr 04, 2012, 04:25:03 AM
Quote from: HappyAlien on Apr 04, 2012, 04:22:00 AM
As for Resurrection its really the Batman and Robin (1997) of Alien films!
Hardly. Resurrection is an interesting, well-made film in its own right--it just doesn't fit well with the original trilogy.

While I agree that Resurrection was an interesting film in it's own right, it does fail in it's most important aspect - being a sequel in the alien series.  This fail is so mind-boggling huge that unfortunately I personally can't look at it seriously without wanting to punch someone or something.
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: HappyAlien on Apr 04, 2012, 10:50:31 AM
Not saying its as bad as Batman and Robin just saying it is the Batman and Robin of Alien films . Of the four it is the most campy and cheesy. While the first three films were much more serious.
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: Omegamorph on Apr 04, 2012, 01:27:00 PM
'I feel broken.'

'f**k!'

'Don't run with scissors, dumbass!'

Rape Goggles.

Not to mention the 'cigarettes' in the AC. And other things I cannot recall at the moment.

Oh yes, Alien3 is so much more serious and lacking humor than Resurrection.
I personally don't have any problems into accepting the latter as an Alien sequel.
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: SpaceMarines on Apr 04, 2012, 01:46:27 PM
It's not that it lacked humour. A film can be serious yet still have funny moments. It's that the overall tone of the fourth film went much beyond simply having a few jokes; the entire film felt like a joke.
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: StrangeShape on Apr 04, 2012, 02:31:51 PM
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Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: DoomRulz on Apr 04, 2012, 11:09:27 PM
Quote from: OmegaZilla on Apr 04, 2012, 01:27:00 PM
'I feel broken.'

'f**k!'

'Don't run with scissors, dumbass!'

Rape Goggles.

Not to mention the 'cigarettes' in the AC. And other things I cannot recall at the moment.

Oh yes, Alien3 is so much more serious and lacking humor than Resurrection.
I personally don't have any problems into accepting the latter as an Alien sequel.

Resurrection was supposed to have dark humour. It just turned out to be stupid.
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: Omegamorph on Apr 05, 2012, 08:24:31 AM
Quote from: DoomRulz on Apr 04, 2012, 11:09:27 PM
Resurrection was supposed to have dark humour.
So was Alien3.
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: Space Sweeper on Apr 05, 2012, 08:43:42 AM
They all did one way or another, really.

Resurrection was just... uh... a bit off the wall.
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: DoomRulz on Apr 05, 2012, 01:10:12 PM
Quote from: OmegaZilla on Apr 05, 2012, 08:24:31 AM
Quote from: DoomRulz on Apr 04, 2012, 11:09:27 PM
Resurrection was supposed to have dark humour.
So was Alien3.

A3 wasn't dumb though.
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: StrangeShape on Apr 05, 2012, 04:35:37 PM
Quote from: DoomRulz on Apr 04, 2012, 11:09:27 PM

Resurrection was supposed to have dark humour. It just turned out to be stupid.

Nooo, why would you even say so?

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Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: Valaquen on Apr 05, 2012, 05:22:14 PM
^ Un mein Gott...
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: Omegamorph on Apr 05, 2012, 05:28:55 PM
Quote from: DoomRulz on Apr 05, 2012, 01:10:12 PM
A3 wasn't dumb though.
Same for Resurrection.

:P
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: Cvalda on Apr 05, 2012, 07:14:31 PM
I love the Brad Dourif kissy-kissy bit :P

Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: Omegamorph on Apr 05, 2012, 07:19:21 PM
So do I. What's funny is that some scientists actually sometimes do things like that with primates they're trying to train.
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: DoomRulz on Apr 05, 2012, 08:22:20 PM
Quote from: StrangeShape on Apr 05, 2012, 04:35:37 PM
Quote from: DoomRulz on Apr 04, 2012, 11:09:27 PM

Resurrection was supposed to have dark humour. It just turned out to be stupid.

Nooo, why would you even say so?

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Don't forget what, 6 guys with big guns facing down one Alien and decide to run in the opposite direction and start arguing about going back or banging on a door that won't open.
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: First Blood on Apr 05, 2012, 08:27:08 PM
It always makes me sad to see Michael Wincott's character fall into the cliché trap of venturing away from the group, for no apparent reason really other than add one more slime infested gun to his otherwise overloaded arsenal. Even Brett's death was more dignified. 

Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: StrangeShape on Apr 05, 2012, 09:10:55 PM
Quote from: DoomRulz on Apr 05, 2012, 08:22:20 PM
Quote from: StrangeShape on Apr 05, 2012, 04:35:37 PM
Quote from: DoomRulz on Apr 04, 2012, 11:09:27 PM

Resurrection was supposed to have dark humour. It just turned out to be stupid.

Nooo, why would you even say so?

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Don't forget what, 6 guys with big guns facing down one Alien and decide to run in the opposite direction and start arguing about going back or banging on a door that won't open.

But at least theyre characters that you see in daily life, like in previous 3 movies! I see characters looking like this in video games and new Mortal Kombat and Tekken all the time!
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: Cvalda on Apr 06, 2012, 04:26:22 AM
Is Resurrection the ideal ALIEN sequel? No. But I maintain that if it were released without the baggage of being one, it would be a fairly successful cult film. It's not accessible to a wide audience because of its grotesque, perverse weirdness and quirky humor, but for those who like that sort of thing, it's a very interesting and enjoyable film--warts and all.
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: SpaceMarines on Apr 06, 2012, 04:27:42 AM
Exactly. But the fact remains, it IS an Alien film, and a very poor one. It should have just been an independent film, untied to any previous classics.
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: Cvalda on Apr 06, 2012, 04:31:51 AM
Which is why I choose to just view it as a sort of EU spinoff. When I read the comics, I don't get angry with them for being comic book-ish and not in line with the films. The original trilogy is its own thing, Resurrection is an enjoyable spinoff.
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: SpaceMarines on Apr 06, 2012, 04:33:11 AM
I can't enjoy it because of the connection it has to the originals. I just can't.
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: OpenMaw on Apr 06, 2012, 04:45:35 AM
Quote from: Cvalda on Apr 06, 2012, 04:26:22 AM
Is Resurrection the ideal ALIEN sequel? No. But I maintain that if it were released without the baggage of being one, it would be a fairly successful cult film. It's not accessible to a wide audience because of its grotesque, perverse weirdness and quirky humor, but for those who like that sort of thing, it's a very interesting and enjoyable film--warts and all.

Frankly, my biggest issue with the movie is that i find it to be absolutely boring. I find the characters inherently unengaging, because they're never developed or given any real motivation for what they are doing. Many of them are given very odd "comic booky" moments that destroy immersion. The film's look is... Unique, but not unique in the same way that Alien, Aliens, and Alien 3 are distinct from each other, yet still "grounded." it's unique in a "this is the black sheep of the series" kind of way.

Even if it were some unrelated standalone film, and you took Ripley out of it... It doesn't work. None of the characters perform well enough to be truly engaging. It's Weaver's presence alone that gives any of Ripley 8's scenes any depth or meaning.

It might have worked better if the film had been given a firmer foundation, and it was part of a "second wave" a new series of films. Aside from a few limp wristed remarks on that subject it doesn't seem it was ever anyones intention to seriously do a film immediately following up to Alien Resurrection.
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: DoomRulz on Apr 07, 2012, 03:57:58 AM
Quote from: SpaceMarines on Apr 06, 2012, 04:27:42 AM
Exactly. But the fact remains, it IS an Alien film, and a very poor one. It should have just been an independent film, untied to any previous classics.

Who said it wasn't an Alien film?
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: SpaceMarines on Apr 07, 2012, 05:20:08 AM
No one. You have to take that in context with Cvalda's post right before.

Quote from: Cvalda on Apr 06, 2012, 04:26:22 AM
Is Resurrection the ideal ALIEN sequel? No. But I maintain that if it were released without the baggage of being one, it would be a fairly successful cult film. It's not accessible to a wide audience because of its grotesque, perverse weirdness and quirky humor, but for those who like that sort of thing, it's a very interesting and enjoyable film--warts and all.
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: Vepariga on Apr 09, 2012, 12:38:13 AM
Alien is my favorite.

I love a slow build up and a thick atmospheric horror. The effects still look great even today becuase of clever film making.

Aliens is a close second.
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: Born Of Cold Light on Apr 09, 2012, 03:58:46 PM
It's a tie between Aliens and Alien 3 for me.  I absolutely love Aliens as an action film, but the atmosphere of Alien 3 can't be beat.  Also, if they had gone with the "wooden planet" concept, I think Alien 3 be a great deal more superior than Aliens.
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: TheDude on Apr 23, 2012, 11:46:30 PM
For the longest time it was Aliens, but after buying the blu-ray anthology and viewing each one countless times since then I have to say Alien. Seeing it that clear reminded me of the first time I saw it, it's like a completely new movie.
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: szkoki on May 22, 2012, 11:56:33 PM
i have got to tell you guys a cant watch any of the first 3 films without each other
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: Morpheus on Jun 04, 2012, 05:31:46 PM
Alien,Aliens then Alien 3.
I never watched Resurrection :P
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: SM on Jun 04, 2012, 11:33:39 PM
QuoteIt might have worked better if the film had been given a firmer foundation, and it was part of a "second wave" a new series of films.

It WAS supposed to be the restart of the series.  Didn't make enough money though.

QuoteI find the characters inherently unengaging, because they're never developed or given any real motivation for what they are doing.

Their motivation weas pretty obvious.  Money and living past today.  'Cept Call who wanted to kill ALL the Aliens!

The development was less obvious. - but no different to the previous films as such.
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: Sinister Serenity on Jun 12, 2012, 09:07:43 PM
Aliens, then Alien, then Alien 3.

Rez and the Avps do not exist.
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: Stingray on Jun 25, 2012, 10:17:03 PM
Quote from: Sinister Serenity on Jun 12, 2012, 09:07:43 PM
Aliens, then Alien, then Alien 3.

Rez and the Avps do not exist.

Same! Except for me Alien is first and Aliens is second.
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: yonime on Jul 12, 2012, 10:55:29 PM
The one where they kill the most xenomorphs. Aliens.
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: episodenone on Jul 16, 2012, 02:42:58 AM
Alien and Aliens are different types of ilms -- so it's tough for me to say.

But if push comes to shove - though I love Aliens -- Alien is the one I can get my wife to maybe watch.  So - you know how that goes.

Truth be told -- I wouls and will generally watch any of the films from the entire franchise any time I am channel surfing -- and generally will not change the channel until I'm done.  And often will feel the need to pull out the dvd and watch from the beginning.

So I'm a Sucker I guess -- but I like em all.  Especially given the choices of what is generally on all of the other channels.  I hate reality tv for the most part.  And thats about all that I see on other channels when I'm not watching espn or some sport
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: Sinister Serenity on Jul 16, 2012, 02:49:16 AM
Quote from: episodenone on Jul 16, 2012, 02:42:58 AM
Alien and Aliens are different types of ilms -- so it's tough for me to say.

But if push comes to shove - though I love Aliens -- Alien is the one I can get my wife to maybe watch.  So - you know how that goes.

Truth be told -- I wouls and will generally watch any of the films from the entire franchise any time I am channel surfing -- and generally will not change the channel until I'm done.  And often will feel the need to pull out the dvd and watch from the beginning.

So I'm a Sucker I guess -- but I like em all.  Especially given the choices of what is generally on all of the other channels.  I hate reality tv for the most part.  And thats about all that I see on other channels when I'm not watching espn or some sport

Oh god. Reality T.V.
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: Primordial on Jul 22, 2012, 03:52:40 PM
Alien, Aliens (close second also), Alien 3, Alien Rez.

Alien movies must be scary imo. In A3 and ARez, we know Ripley is not going to be killed by xenos so there is less tension whereas in Alien we don't know what's going to happen and death is imminent.
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: Nightmare Asylum on Jul 22, 2012, 04:16:41 PM
But...she was killed because of an Alien in A3 :P I'd say that the third film is very tense, especially in its final moments.
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: Primordial on Jul 22, 2012, 05:39:48 PM
I have a really strange thing happening on my pc ???
I saw the special edition of A3 and when she commit suicide, we don't see the queen chestbursting Ripley and I though this version is better, I didn't like the coincidence of the Alien coming out just when she is going to burn. And after your post I watched again the scene and the Queen is coming out...so I did multiple replay and one time it's coming out and the other it's not...I have to fix my pc  :laugh:
I like to think she died of both (still alive when she grabs gently "her daughter") at the same time although we will never know :-\
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: StrangeShape on Jul 22, 2012, 06:15:17 PM
I dont think its such a great coincidence. After all, she spends quite some time with the embryo in, and feels it strongly when the climax approaches, eventually feeling the pain already. It was pretty much implied that the burster can come out anytime now
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: Nightmare Asylum on Jul 22, 2012, 06:27:27 PM
I like it better without seeing the Queen. It adds more to her sacrifice, I think, that maybe if she did go with the WY officers they could have possibly saved her. Ripley hated WY so much and didn't want them to get their hands on the Alien so much that she let herself die to prevent it, even though they could have possibly saved her.
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: Primordial on Jul 22, 2012, 07:00:31 PM
Yes, I understand that it could come out anytime :), I meant that when she jumps, it lasts just 5 seconds maximum without slowmotion...Maybe the process of falling made it come out quicker

Agree with the sacrifice more enhanced...She was really FED UP, she learned her daughter died, Newt is gone, like Hicks, she had no guarantee to survive after the surgery, all that added to the hatred of WY. She had nothing to loose except her life (where "she can't remember anything else than the Alien") 
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: aliens13 on Jul 23, 2012, 01:17:26 AM
Aliens, Alien, Alien 3, Alien Resurection
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: Novak 1334 on Jul 23, 2012, 03:41:02 AM
Watched Alien 3 Assembly Cut whilst in work, it's still my favourite of the trilogy
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: XenoTyrant97 on Jul 24, 2012, 01:55:58 PM
I believe ALIENS was the best, followed by ALIEN, ALIEN: RESURRECTION and ALIEN 3.
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: Jegeren on Aug 03, 2012, 12:40:42 AM
I am going to have to go with Aliens hands down. Then Alien, the A3, then A:R. While the first two are both great, Aliens just has that flair and finesse to it to make it pure gold. Plus I prefer the faster pacing.
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: Nightmare Asylum on Aug 03, 2012, 02:39:56 AM
Quote from: Jegeren on Aug 03, 2012, 12:40:42 AM
Plus I prefer the faster pacing.

I find that kind of funny, because, in my view at least, the first two films are structured and paced almost exactly the same. The second film, however, implements the man vs Alien conflicts in a much more intense manner rather than Alien's brief encounters with the beasts, which probably gives it that seemingly faster pace.
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: SM on Aug 03, 2012, 02:54:14 AM
In terms of getting to the action (Kane getting hugged vs. marines attacked in hive), Aliens is much slower.  However once Ripley and Newt are attacked by the huggers in medlab, it rarely lets up for the final 40 minutes.
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: Nightmare Asylum on Aug 03, 2012, 02:59:32 AM
The same can be argued for Alien's last 20 minutes or so (comprable to Aliens' last 40 because of the shorter length), albeit its a very different style of action.
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: SiL on Aug 03, 2012, 06:43:32 AM
Once Brett gets nabbed it's pretty much nonstop until the end. Which is also roughly 40 minutes.
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: SM on Aug 03, 2012, 06:50:35 AM
I think Aliens seems more intense, because all that time is a running battle.  Apart from the loader fight, we're constantly on the move.
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: DoomRulz on Aug 03, 2012, 03:23:36 PM
I felt Alien had more edge-of-your-seat intensity in its last 40 minutes. Aliens makes me want to sit back and relax with a bag of popcorn.
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: Nightmare Asylum on Aug 03, 2012, 03:25:34 PM
Honestly, both of them are edge-of-your-seat for me, but in drastically different ways.
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: Hubbs on Aug 14, 2012, 01:17:42 PM
Aliens just pips it for me as I always loved the future designs like sets, machines, equipment, weapons, costumes etc...The build up to the finale is also adrenaline pumping as the team goes down one by one, one of the best sequels ever made.
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: Blacklabel on Aug 14, 2012, 01:47:46 PM
...wasnt expecting 33 votes for Alien resurrection.  :P
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: Primordial on Aug 14, 2012, 10:34:22 PM
Quote from: Blacklabel on Aug 14, 2012, 01:47:46 PM
...wasnt expecting 33 votes for Alien resurrection.  :P

33 = mistake clics + people joking + people involved with the movie making  :P
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: aliennaire on Aug 15, 2012, 07:02:08 AM
I bet 33 A:R votes were cast by people who were brought to the franchise with that film. There is nothing bad about that... On the bright side, staying long enough here, they eventually would be educated to appreciate the real masterpieces   :P
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: Omegamorph on Aug 15, 2012, 07:06:43 AM
The wonders of how people have to explain differing opinions.
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: SM on Aug 15, 2012, 07:19:10 AM
Yeah, I mean, who do they think they are?  They should think precisely like everyone who likes Aliens the best.
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: aliennaire on Aug 15, 2012, 07:43:53 AM
I was mainly joking about educating, but really, whouldn't you be interested to learn more about your favourite film, where from it derived and what has been done before?.. I think it's what makes you a fan... Whether could you switch your choice after or remain stern with your tastes is also up to you. Like I said, I was mainly joking...
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: VicerExciser206 on Aug 24, 2012, 07:00:57 AM
Aliens was the first one I saw
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: Alien Jockey on Aug 25, 2012, 11:39:54 PM
Aliens.
Sometimes Aliens and Alien are equal. Some people say Alien is their favorite. Others say Aliens.

My order from best to worst:
Aliens
Alien
Prometheus
Alien 3
Alien Resurrection

A lot of people had no doubts (I didn't have any)  that  Prometheus would be  better than Alien 3 and Alien Resurrection. I thank god that it was. Anybody that choose Alien 3,  I respect your decision but you should rewatch Alien and Aliens. Anybody that choose Alien Resurrection is out of their minds. If your favorite Alien movie is not Aliens, Alien or Prometheus, then you should rewatch those movies.

Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: colonialmarine9 on Aug 26, 2012, 12:19:42 AM
I love and respect all the first three films, resurrection is ok but it isn't nearly as good because its like a comedy. The first three are serious, dark films which are amazing because they have great directors, actors, moods, themes, tones, plot, music, characterization, realism, and incredible sets. Resurrection lacks the dark mood and seriousness and has terrible dialogue and has little characterization, the scenes with the Newborn are bad to say the least because the creature isn't threatening at all I mean it just falls in love with Ripley instead of a fight which was orignally going to happen the movie could have been so much better their was so much potential. It is ok but the first 3 make it look like trash. The first 3 are masterpieces and my favorite all though Alien and Aliens are very close is Alien 3 which is a criminally underrated movie. The first three movies is like a very good story that is just beautiful.

Order

Alien 3 Aliens Alien all on same level 100% masterpieces  :)






Alien Resurrection joke of a wonderful franchise  ???
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: SM on Aug 27, 2012, 12:35:17 AM
QuoteResurrection... has little characterization

It's got about as much as Aliens or Alien3.
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: Omegamorph on Aug 27, 2012, 12:16:08 PM
Eyup; probably a little more than the latter too.
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: DoomRulz on Aug 28, 2012, 04:35:58 AM
Alien3's characterisation was good for what we got I felt. Certainly Dillon and 85 were people I cared about towards the end, to some degree.
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: SM on Aug 28, 2012, 05:35:47 AM
Same as Hicks, Newt, Burke, Bishop, Clemens, Call, Johner, Vriess, et al.  All distinctive without being terribly deep.
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: colonialmarine9 on Aug 29, 2012, 01:16:05 AM
That's true
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: Amaterasu on Sep 12, 2012, 10:58:12 PM
Forever Aliens for me.  ;D
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: Alienhunter15 on Sep 13, 2012, 12:04:11 AM
My order from best to worse + my rating for all of them:

Aliens = 100%
Alien = 98%
Prometheus = 85%
Alien 3 = 83%
Alien Ressurection = 62%
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: p1nk81cd on Sep 20, 2012, 10:39:54 PM
ALIEN³, ALIENS, then ALIEN...don't say nothing.  :)
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: Edvin on Sep 20, 2012, 10:50:47 PM
Alien, Alien rez, aliens, and then i usually pretend that alien3 never happened  :D
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: p1nk81cd on Sep 20, 2012, 11:07:36 PM
Quote from: Edvin on Sep 20, 2012, 10:50:47 PM
Alien, Alien rez, aliens, and then i usually pretend that alien3 never happened  :D

Ha! Kinda like how I usually pretend that Prometheus doesn't exist- though I don't look down upon people who like it.  :)
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: Edvin on Sep 20, 2012, 11:12:00 PM
yeah i just dont see it as an alien film at all. it basically has nothing to do with it, except it shares the same designs.
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: Snowdog on Sep 20, 2012, 11:17:28 PM
I know i said something different before but to be really honest i'm really tempted towards Alien3, also because this movie introduced me to the franchise and made me a huge fan of it ;D Really love alien3 despite it's flaws. But if you truly love someone or something you can look past the flaws :laugh: And i truly love this move ^^
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: p1nk81cd on Sep 20, 2012, 11:20:02 PM
Quote from: Snowdog on Sep 20, 2012, 11:17:28 PM
I know i said something different before but to be really honest i'm really tempted towards Alien3, also because this movie introduced me to the franchise and made me a huge fan of it ;D Really love alien3 despite it's flaws. But if you truly love someone or something you can look past the flaws :laugh: And i truly love this move ^^

Very true, friend... very true.  :)
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: Novak 1334 on Sep 21, 2012, 11:51:49 AM
Alien 3 is still my favourite.  I don't quite understand how it's not an Alien movie though  ???
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: DoomRulz on Sep 21, 2012, 09:38:23 PM
Quote from: Novak 1334 on Sep 21, 2012, 11:51:49 AM
Alien 3 is still my favourite.  I don't quite understand how it's not an Alien movie though  ???

What?
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: Snowdog on Sep 21, 2012, 11:19:06 PM
Quote from: Novak 1334 on Sep 21, 2012, 11:51:49 AM
Alien 3 is still my favourite.  I don't quite understand how it's not an Alien movie though  ???

What the hell do you mean by this ??? :-\ Don't quite understand you
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: Nightmare Asylum on Sep 21, 2012, 11:21:30 PM
I think he means that there are a lot of people who loved the first two so much and refuse to accept the third film, and he can't understand why they do so.
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: Edvin on Sep 22, 2012, 09:44:08 AM
Quote from: Nightmare Asylum on Sep 21, 2012, 11:21:30 PM
I think he means that there are a lot of people who loved the first two so much and refuse to accept the third film, and he can't understand why they do so.
becauseitssof**kinterribleandslowpacedanfiöledwithhorriblecharactersthatservesnopurposeanditdoesntreallydoanythingforthealienssaga.
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: Novak 1334 on Sep 22, 2012, 11:09:39 AM
Just like AvP 1 and 2 and Prometheus then
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: Nightmare Asylum on Sep 22, 2012, 01:30:12 PM
Quote from: Edvin on Sep 22, 2012, 09:44:08 AM
Quote from: Nightmare Asylum on Sep 21, 2012, 11:21:30 PM
I think he means that there are a lot of people who loved the first two so much and refuse to accept the third film, and he can't understand why they do so.
becauseitssof**kinterribleandslowpacedanfiöledwithhorriblecharactersthatservesnopurposeanditdoesntreallydoanythingforthealienssaga.

Because, despite a sloppy opening and lots of behind the scenes problems that are unfortunately apparent on screen, the film tells a rather excellent story, provides closure on Ripley's character in a very satisfying way, and manages to take a bunch of unlikable prisoners and put them on a path to redemption, allowing us to sympathize with and grow to like some of them along the way. Also, it had a great atmosphere and setting, and did some rather interesting things with the Alien itself. And lets not forget that amazing soundtrack.
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: Novak 1334 on Sep 22, 2012, 03:13:11 PM
Quote from: DoomRulz on Sep 21, 2012, 09:38:23 PM
Quote from: Novak 1334 on Sep 21, 2012, 11:51:49 AM
Alien 3 is still my favourite.  I don't quite understand how it's not an Alien movie though  ???

What?

It was from an earlier post that I forgot to quote
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: Gilfryd on Sep 22, 2012, 07:07:23 PM
For me -

Alien
Aliens
Alien Resurrection
Prometheus
Alien 3


Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: SpaceMarines on Sep 22, 2012, 08:02:02 PM
Quote from: Nightmare Asylum on Sep 22, 2012, 01:30:12 PM
Quote from: Edvin on Sep 22, 2012, 09:44:08 AM
Quote from: Nightmare Asylum on Sep 21, 2012, 11:21:30 PM
I think he means that there are a lot of people who loved the first two so much and refuse to accept the third film, and he can't understand why they do so.
becauseitssof**kinterribleandslowpacedanfiöledwithhorriblecharactersthatservesnopurposeanditdoesntreallydoanythingforthealienssaga.

Because, despite a sloppy opening and lots of behind the scenes problems that are unfortunately apparent on screen, the film tells a rather excellent story, provides closure on Ripley's character in a very satisfying way, and manages to take a bunch of unlikable prisoners and put them on a path to redemption, allowing us to sympathize with and grow to like some of them along the way. Also, it had a great atmosphere and setting, and did some rather interesting things with the Alien itself. And lets not forget that amazing soundtrack.

Well said. Not the perfect end to the trilogy, but a fine and admirable one nonetheless. Perfect closure for Ripley's arc.
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: Gash on Oct 14, 2012, 11:33:30 PM
ALIEN
PROMETHEUS
ALIEN³
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: Arcangel on Nov 03, 2012, 05:00:30 AM
Aliens, Alien, Prometheus, Alien3, and I absolutley hated Aliens: Ressurection.
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: Amaterasu on Nov 03, 2012, 05:02:29 AM
QuoteI absolutley hated Aliens: Ressurection.

Now that I think of it, Resurrection was kind of a big "Mmm, whatever.." sorta movie to me.
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: Arcangel on Nov 03, 2012, 05:26:15 AM
If you watch Nostalgia Critic: Alien Resurection, he perfectly describes my view of it. If you look at it as a spoof of the alien movies, it's hilarious. But it doesn't even classify as an Alien movie in my mind. Neither does Alien3. The death of Ripley, Bishop, Hicks and especially Rebecca(Newt) crushed me. I like to pretend they all lived happily ever after. Like in the comics! Newt lives, and grows into a fine adult. Of course, she still fights the Aliens, but she's alive. :/
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: Amaterasu on Nov 03, 2012, 05:27:20 AM
Quote from: Arcangel on Nov 03, 2012, 05:26:15 AM
If you watch Nostalgia Critic: Alien Resurection, he perfectly describes my view of it. If you look at it as a spoof of the alien movies, it's hilarious. But it doesn't even classify as an Alien movie in my mind. Neither does Alien3. The death of Ripley, Bishop, Hicks and especially Rebecca(Newt) crushed me. I like to pretend they all lived happily ever after. Like in the comics! Newt lives, and grows into a fine adult. Of course, she still fights the Aliens, but she's alive. :/

Agreed, that guy was awesome.  ;)
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: Arcangel on Nov 03, 2012, 05:36:16 AM
Which one? Bishop, Hicks, or The Nostalgia Critic?
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: Amaterasu on Nov 03, 2012, 05:37:53 AM
Nostalgia Critic.
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: Arcangel on Nov 03, 2012, 05:45:57 AM
Yeah...too bad he's 'decided to stop making vids'. Personally, I think he's trolling us.
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: Omegamorph on Nov 03, 2012, 08:42:06 AM
He's finally giving some rest to his vocal chords.
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: Amaterasu on Nov 03, 2012, 05:22:58 PM
But he was so funny.  :'(
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: Arcangel on Nov 04, 2012, 04:08:53 AM
Yeah. But i do think he deserves a rest. If you've watched his scooby-doo one, he was being truthful with his opening. I doubt it was acting. I could be wrong, though.
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: DoomRulz on Nov 05, 2012, 11:34:33 AM
Quote from: Arcangel on Nov 03, 2012, 05:26:15 AM
If you watch Nostalgia Critic: Alien Resurection, he perfectly describes my view of it. If you look at it as a spoof of the alien movies, it's hilarious. But it doesn't even classify as an Alien movie in my mind. Neither does Alien3. The death of Ripley, Bishop, Hicks and especially Rebecca(Newt) crushed me. I like to pretend they all lived happily ever after. Like in the comics! Newt lives, and grows into a fine adult. Of course, she still fights the Aliens, but she's alive. :/

Heh, I'll remember that if I ever choose to rewatch Resurrection. While I do agree to some extent about A3, I did enjoy it. It brought back to an extent I felt, the original sense of dread the first film had. I didn't get it as much with Aliens.
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: samoht on Nov 05, 2012, 12:35:25 PM
Quote from: Arcangel on Nov 03, 2012, 05:26:15 AM
If you watch Nostalgia Critic: Alien Resurection, he perfectly describes my view of it. If you look at it as a spoof of the alien movies, it's hilarious. But it doesn't even classify as an Alien movie in my mind. Neither does Alien3. The death of Ripley, Bishop, Hicks and especially Rebecca(Newt) crushed me. I like to pretend they all lived happily ever after. Like in the comics! Newt lives, and grows into a fine adult. Of course, she still fights the Aliens, but she's alive. :/

I agree 100%

Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: Arcangel on Nov 06, 2012, 04:30:50 AM
Yeah.... Freakin Ridley Scott and his terrible attempt at making more movies. He could have at least filled in the plot hole for alien3. That threw me. I still have no idea what he was thinking when he came up with it. "Hey guys, let's throw an alien egg on the sulaco, have everyone including ripley die, and then let every alien fan debate for years to come just how the f**k the egg got there!"

First pic: What scott was thinking.

Second Pic: What i think even now.
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: Amaterasu on Nov 06, 2012, 04:35:49 AM
I'm gonna rewatch A:R and see how long I can keep from getting up and leaving..
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: Arcangel on Nov 06, 2012, 04:56:49 AM
Haha. Probably not very long. I can't even get past the fade in/out beggining with ripley breaking out of the 'giant novelty condom' as the Nostalgia Critic puts it.
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: DoomRulz on Nov 06, 2012, 11:53:27 AM
Quote from: Arcangel on Nov 06, 2012, 04:30:50 AM
Yeah.... Freakin Ridley Scott and his terrible attempt at making more movies. He could have at least filled in the plot hole for alien3. That threw me. I still have no idea what he was thinking when he came up with it. "Hey guys, let's throw an alien egg on the sulaco, have everyone including ripley die, and then let every alien fan debate for years to come just how the f**k the egg got there!"

First pic: What scott was thinking.

Second Pic: What i think even now.

Ridley Scott didn't direct Alien3...
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: stephen on Nov 07, 2012, 12:04:29 AM
Quote from: DoomRulz on Nov 06, 2012, 11:53:27 AM
Quote from: Arcangel on Nov 06, 2012, 04:30:50 AM
Yeah.... Freakin Ridley Scott and his terrible attempt at making more movies. He could have at least filled in the plot hole for alien3. That threw me. I still have no idea what he was thinking when he came up with it. "Hey guys, let's throw an alien egg on the sulaco, have everyone including ripley die, and then let every alien fan debate for years to come just how the f**k the egg got there!"

First pic: What scott was thinking.

Second Pic: What i think even now.

Ridley Scott didn't direct Alien3...

Ummm, yeah, Ridley Scott had nothing to do with Alien 3.
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: SM on Nov 07, 2012, 12:06:03 AM
 :laugh:

Kicking goals there Arcangel...
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: Arcangel on Nov 07, 2012, 04:15:47 AM
Damn it....
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: Staplepuffs27 on Jan 18, 2013, 03:13:17 AM
For me it goes alien, aliens, alien Rez, alien 3, Prometheus, avp, avp2. I love them all though, so this list was really hard to make.
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: unwittytitle on Jan 18, 2013, 04:52:02 PM
Alien 3 (Assembly Cut) love the set design, and overall bleakness. Then Aliens (Great action and dialogue), Alien, AVP, Alien Rez, Prometheus, AVP:R.
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: Cal427eb on Jan 18, 2013, 04:56:55 PM
Quote from: Staplepuffs27 on Jan 18, 2013, 03:13:17 AM
For me it goes alien, aliens, alien Rez, alien 3, Prometheus, avp, avp2. I love them all though, so this list was really hard to make.
Rez higher then Prometheus?  ???
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: Staplepuffs27 on Jan 18, 2013, 10:31:55 PM
Quote from: Cal427eb on Jan 18, 2013, 04:56:55 PM
Quote from: Staplepuffs27 on Jan 18, 2013, 03:13:17 AM
For me it goes alien, aliens, alien Rez, alien 3, Prometheus, avp, avp2. I love them all though, so this list was really hard to make.
Rez higher then Prometheus?  ???
I have a soft spot for Rez as a huge firefly fan. Prometheus will probably grow on me as time goes on and the ranking may change. Just my personal favorites at the moment.
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: Cal427eb on Jan 18, 2013, 10:54:38 PM
Quote from: Staplepuffs27 on Jan 18, 2013, 10:31:55 PM
Quote from: Cal427eb on Jan 18, 2013, 04:56:55 PM
Quote from: Staplepuffs27 on Jan 18, 2013, 03:13:17 AM
For me it goes alien, aliens, alien Rez, alien 3, Prometheus, avp, avp2. I love them all though, so this list was really hard to make.
Rez higher then Prometheus?  ???
I have a soft spot for Rez as a huge firefly fan. Prometheus will probably grow on me as time goes on and the ranking may change. Just my personal favorites at the moment.
Oh well, at least you have Requiem at the bottom  ;)
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: Staplepuffs27 on Jan 19, 2013, 03:12:34 AM
Quote from: Cal427eb on Jan 18, 2013, 10:54:38 PM
Quote from: Staplepuffs27 on Jan 18, 2013, 10:31:55 PM
Quote from: Cal427eb on Jan 18, 2013, 04:56:55 PM
Quote from: Staplepuffs27 on Jan 18, 2013, 03:13:17 AM
For me it goes alien, aliens, alien Rez, alien 3, Prometheus, avp, avp2. I love them all though, so this list was really hard to make.
Rez higher then Prometheus?  ???
I have a soft spot for Rez as a huge firefly fan. Prometheus will probably grow on me as time goes on and the ranking may change. Just my personal favorites at the moment.
Oh well, at least you have Requiem at the bottom  ;)
My expectations should have been way lower, but I was part of the group that bought into the trailers and was expecting a decent flick and improvement over the first (which I didn't think was THAT bad). Unfortunately, the filmmakers had no respect for the alien that was established as being much more feared and powerful throughout the franchise. They basically turned the alien(s) into generic slasher monsters :(
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: DoomRulz on Jan 20, 2013, 09:43:58 PM
I could never rank Rez higher than Prommy, personally. Rez was a giant bucket of steaming WTF? while Prommy held my attention through and through.
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: Alien³ on Feb 20, 2013, 02:46:19 PM
Updated...

5 stars: Alien (TC, DC), Aliens (TC, DC), Alien 3 (AC)
4 stars: Prometheus
3 stars: Alien 3 (TC)
2 stars:
1 stars: Alien: Ressurection (TC, DC)
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: StrangeShape on Feb 20, 2013, 11:38:59 PM
Quote from: Alien³ on Feb 20, 2013, 02:46:19 PM
Updated...

5 stars: Alien (TC, DC), Aliens (TC, DC), Alien 3 (AC)
4 stars: Prometheus
3 stars: Alien 3 (TC)
2 stars:
1 stars: Alien: Ressurection (TC, DC)

Mine would be very similar. As you, I love, just love the alien trilogy, and all three movies in it equally

5 stars: Alien (TC or DC), Aliens (DC), Alien 3 (TC)
4 stars:
3 stars: AVP, Prometheus
2 stars:
0.5 star: AVP:R
0 stars: Alien Resurrection
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: SM on Feb 20, 2013, 11:43:50 PM
While we're playing...

5 - Alien, Aliens
4 - Alien3, Resurrection, Prometheus
3
2
1 - AvP, AvP:Poo
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: Valaquen on Feb 20, 2013, 11:47:08 PM
Let me:

5 - Alien, Aliens
4 - Alien 3 (AC), Prometheus
3 -
2 -
1 - Alien Resurrection, Alien vs. Predator
0 - Aliens vs. Predator: Requiem.
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: Nightmare Asylum on Feb 20, 2013, 11:57:39 PM
And now without numbers!

Alien
Aliens
Alien 3/Prometheus
Alien Resurrection
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: Alien³ on Feb 21, 2013, 12:45:22 AM
Don't change my silly system! ::)
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: DoomRulz on Feb 21, 2013, 03:13:50 AM
5 Alien
4 Aliens/Prometheus
3. Alien 3
2. Alien 3/AvP:R
1. Alien: Res/AvP
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: StrangeShape on Feb 21, 2013, 03:19:36 AM
Quote from: DoomRulz on Feb 21, 2013, 03:13:50 AM
5 Alien
4 Aliens/Prometheus
3. Alien 3
2. Alien 3/AvP:R
1. Alien: Res/AvP

Doom, I thought you liked Alien 3 more than Aliens?
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: DoomRulz on Feb 21, 2013, 03:33:13 AM
No, don't think so. I've always said Aliens was a good movie and that Alien 3 was a cash grab. I like A3 sure, but that's how I will always see it.
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: Alien³ on Feb 21, 2013, 08:47:06 AM
All sequels are cash grabs, and to the industry I'm sure all movies are cash grabs. But think, when a movie is made all the people who work on it are getting paid because its a job like anyother, those people will need feeding during work so food companies have work to feed these people. Delivery services have to bring food supplies to these stores to ensure food is available to sell. All these hundreds of people working on these films need clothes...

You get the idea.

So why is it so bad that these movies are cash grabs? Money is just circling through the system as it always has.
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: DoomRulz on Feb 21, 2013, 09:48:29 AM
Thank you for that explanation of how it fits into society's economic circle of life. It doesn't make the film any less pointless.
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: Alien³ on Feb 21, 2013, 10:20:44 AM
Well then it just comes down to opinion as always. ;)
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: Blacklabel on Feb 21, 2013, 12:05:57 PM
5 - Alien / Aliens
4 -
3.5 - Prometheus / Alien 3
3 - Alien Resurrection
2 -
1 - (Milburn and Fifield's hammerpede encounter)

Here's hoping that Prometheus 2: Prometheuss gets to be another 5 star worthy flick in this saga.
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: Omegamorph on Feb 22, 2013, 01:39:06 PM
Alien
Aliens

Alien3 / Alien: Resurrection



















































Prometheus
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: Alien³ on Feb 22, 2013, 09:03:15 PM
Prometheus below A:R?

(https://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fredanglespanish.files.wordpress.com%2F2011%2F11%2Falrightythen.jpg&hash=d13c5083e6fe932dc8ba76b6f8d902bbcf2a4bda)
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: Omegamorph on Feb 22, 2013, 09:50:45 PM
Quote from: Alien³ on Feb 22, 2013, 09:03:15 PM
Prometheus below A:R?
As below as the Mariana Trench is below the ocean surface.
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: Alien³ on Feb 22, 2013, 09:55:17 PM
Quote from: OmegaZilla on Feb 22, 2013, 09:50:45 PM
Quote from: Alien³ on Feb 22, 2013, 09:03:15 PM
Prometheus below A:R?
As below as the Mariana Trench is below the ocean surface.

(https://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.qkme.me%2F35uw9i.jpg&hash=c1926f1fde41f17e9ca6a420f59191b5ff9fd22b)
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: Omegamorph on Feb 22, 2013, 09:57:11 PM
:laugh: holy f**king shit
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: Gash on Feb 23, 2013, 11:06:26 PM
 5. ALIEN
4. Prometheus
3. Alien3
2. Holiday on the Buses
1. Aliens
0. A:R. AvP
-0. AvP:R
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: DoomRulz on Feb 24, 2013, 12:15:57 AM
Quote from: OmegaZilla on Feb 22, 2013, 01:39:06 PM
Alien
Aliens

Alien3 / Alien: Resurrection



















































Prometheus

f**k me. I thought you were a fan of Prommy.
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: Mus on Feb 24, 2013, 02:51:35 AM
Yeah he even has the Engineer in his signature
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: Nightmare Asylum on Feb 24, 2013, 05:06:27 AM
Quote from: Mus on Feb 24, 2013, 02:51:35 AM
Yeah he even has the Engineer in his signature

:D
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: SDR on Feb 24, 2013, 09:50:03 AM
Planet 51
(https://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2F4.bp.blogspot.com%2F_XdP6Lp2ceqY%2FStai4xs09GI%2FAAAAAAAABP4%2FHTRQ2U1qwh0%2Fs400%2Falien2.PNG&hash=fc24a83e3d7f88efbf02a80e8e40b358f3b5cad8)
JK
Aliens and Alien second
Title: Re: Favourite Alien Movie?
Post by: Omegamorph on Feb 24, 2013, 10:36:18 AM
Quote from: DoomRulz on Feb 24, 2013, 12:15:57 AM
f**k me. I thought you were a fan of Prommy.
Movie itself no, I don't like at all.

I do like the Trilobite, De