Since the other thread is on the PredAlien's reproduction method, it might as well get it's own thread. I figured the Predator fans might have something to say about this:
QuoteGet set for the most brutal battle ever when Aliens vs Predator - Requiem introduces Predalien.
Not content with having just Alien and Predator battle it out, directors, the Strause Brothers (Colin and Greg Strause), have decided to up the terror ante by giving birth to a creature new to the long-running franchise: the Predalien.
Not really a Predator/Alien hybrid, Predalien is an Alien that incubated inside a Predator, taking on some characteristics of the host body.
"It's about 80 percent Alien, 20 percent Predator," say the filmmakers.
It has the Alien's exoskeleton, acid blood, scorpion-like tail and inner tongue/striking mouth. On the Predator side, it has an additional Predator-like mandible and an Alienised version of Predator "dreadlocks". More significantly, its Predator DNA has changed the Alien's method of procreation - instead of the creature's traditional Queen-egg-face-hugger-chest-burster-adult cycle, the Predalien regurgitates chest-burster embryos ... into the mouths of their victims.
Aliens vs Predator - Requiem will be unleashed in cinemas nationally on December 6.
The bolded part is my doing. Notice what it says about Pred reproduction?
Debate away, folks. I've been waiting for juicy material like this. :)
100% pure canon awesome badassness.
No?
no it would be ridiulous if they show how pred reproduce :-X
Well i don't get it. Chet is a young Queen or not? Or Is she a queen, but because of the PRedator DNA she has different reproduction? Or just the Predator DNA make her avaiable that kind of reproduction thing as long as she young queen and when Chet will grow up she starting to laying eggs? Anyway i like the idea.
20% predator 80% alien
so the predalien is a mutant-abomination who would not naturally exist outside of this crappy movie?
PLEASE?
The writer is suggesting it. Not the directors. There are no quotes.
And the writer is probably suggesting it because they're as confused as the rest of us, as to why it is. :)
Quote from: Spaghetti on Nov 16, 2007, 07:10:13 PM
20% predator 80% alien
so the predalien is a mutant-abomination who would not naturally exist outside of this crappy movie?
PLEASE?
The PRedalien is not a mutant. She is just different from the human born aliens, because the Predator DNA. This is make a lot of sense.
QuoteThe writer is suggesting it. Not the directors. There are no quotes.
See my reply in the Reproduction thread...
QuoteThe PRedalien is not a mutant. She is just different from the human born aliens, because the Predator DNA. This is make a lot of sense.
How, exactly? Human-born Aliens aren't inclined to reproduce with a penis or a vagina or a womb, unless you make note of the hybrids in A:R. And they don't really count.
Quote from: The Chibi Kiriyama on Nov 16, 2007, 07:15:07 PM
QuoteThe writer is suggesting it. Not the directors. There are no quotes.
See my reply in the Reproduction thread...
Thx.
I meant that for Xenomorphine. :P
Quote from: csutkakoma on Nov 16, 2007, 07:08:49 PM
Chet is a young Queen or not? Or Is she a queen
He/she/it is a plot device which does whatever the hell the directors want it to do. This is done via waving a magic wanding and saying the mystical words, "It's our movie, so there." :)
This would never have been such a big issue if they weren't so often quoted as saying they were going to be "fixing" all the things supposedly done wrong the last time and that they would be making sure, five-billion percent, that they would be adhering to canon in every possible way, like, ever.
I have said this some time ago...^^
Maybe Preds reproduce with their mouths, that would be a reason why they had such large mandibles.... yeah and the Predalien get this ability...
think of it, what do the alien in Alien? it (tryied) to rape Lambert... maybe in nearly the same way humen would do it...
and remember... aliens were told as "perfect organism", they could survive in all kinds of enviroment and could adapt every kind of situation, if thats true, then its clear why it is so! they could get the reproduce-ability from their hosts to reproduce under/with them... what really dark and scary feeling/idea, or not? but also very cool...
much cooler as known before and much deadlier^^
EDIT: But the i dont understand why they call it a young queen and why they ave it the crown... it could be just an (pred)Alien that try to mreproduce on its own way like in Alien...
Meh, that quote says nothing about how Predators reproduce.
Quote from: dDave on Nov 16, 2007, 07:27:26 PM
think of it, what do the alien in Alien? it (tryied) to rape Lambert... maybe in nearly the same way humen would do it...
With
what? There's nothing at their crotch. :)
If it did something with the tail, then the Predalien should be doing stuff with its tail, too. Even if it would probably cleave someone in two with it, considering how they've redesigned the thing...
Way to ruin the Predator lifecycle. >:(
Quote from: dDave on Nov 16, 2007, 07:27:26 PM
think of it, what do the alien in Alien? it (tryied) to rape Lambert... maybe in nearly the same way humen would do it...
Lets not retcon A L I E N please.
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and remember... aliens were told as "perfect organism", they could survive in all kinds of enviroment and could adapt every kind of situation, if thats true, then its clear why it is so! they could get the reproduce-ability from their hosts to reproduce under/with them... what really dark and scary feeling/idea, or not? but also very cool...
much cooler as known before and much deadlier^^
Everyone knows that this idea takes a big dump all over the last 28 years of canon. This has been gone over centimeter by centimeter. It's like they're suddenly rolling dice to come up with neato cool just-like-the-comics garbage to litter the Alien franchise. It's a farce.
Quote from: Xenomorphine on Nov 16, 2007, 07:38:30 PM
Quote from: dDave on Nov 16, 2007, 07:27:26 PM
think of it, what do the alien in Alien? it (tryied) to rape Lambert... maybe in nearly the same way humen would do it...
With what? There's nothing at their crotch. :)
If it did something with the tail, then the Predalien should be doing stuff with its tail, too. Even if it would probably cleave someone in two with it, considering how they've redesigned the thing...
The alien probably raped Lambert with it's inner-jaw. You know what I mean, yes, put it's inner-jaw in her you know where. Sorry, but I had to say it, how else could it have raped her? After someone replies can we get back on topic, about the Pred's reproduction method and not the Alien's? 8)
I would actually have preferred that the PredAlien tail raped. That's what I originally speculated. We've seen that hosts do not necessarily have to stay alive, so if the process is so forced and painful that the host dies it might just be successful at implantation regardless.
I would rather this was explored in a deeper Alien film, though. A reproductive method like tail rape needs to be distrubing and dealt with tastefully.
Any future thread on this topic should be linked to Xenomorphine's signature and locked imo. He nailed it down awhile ago. :P
Quote from: Xenomorphine on Nov 16, 2007, 07:38:30 PM
Quote from: dDave on Nov 16, 2007, 07:27:26 PM
think of it, what do the alien in Alien? it (tryied) to rape Lambert... maybe in nearly the same way humen would do it...
With what? There's nothing at their crotch. :)
If it did something with the tail, then the Predalien should be doing stuff with its tail, too. Even if it would probably cleave someone in two with it, considering how they've redesigned the thing...
why should it do this with its tail^^ if its really true that preds preproduce with their mouths then would do the predalien mostly the same....
We're talking about the original Alien. And no, it doesn't make much sense for the reason Xeno has in his signature. Human Aliens don't have a phallus. Why would a Predator's reproductive method matter? Otherwise, we wouldn't be discussing the tail rape scene (or at least just calling it "the rape scene").
Where is this quote from?
Like I've said, there's nothing there that even remotely describes or suggests how Predators reproduce. This discussion is an extrapolation gone out of control.
Furthermore, even if the writers and directors came out and flat said, "yes, Predators are mouth breeders," that still doesn't solve the Alien problem.
Maybe Preds are distant relatives of penguins.
You've never seen a penguin mate... So they probably throw up in eachother's mouths. :D
Unfortunately for the penguin, it's a bit more awkward than that. Ever tried to balance two milk bottles on top of each other?
Quote from: SiL on Nov 16, 2007, 08:12:52 PM
Unfortunately for the penguin, it's a bit more awkward than that. Ever tried to balance two milk bottles on top of each other?
Ahhh... Okay :P
Quote from: Accaris on Nov 16, 2007, 07:50:25 PM
Any future thread on this topic should be linked to Xenomorphine's signature and locked imo. He nailed it down awhile ago. :P
;D
Quote from: SiL on Nov 16, 2007, 08:12:52 PM
Unfortunately for the penguin, it's a bit more awkward than that. Ever tried to balance two milk bottles on top of each other?
Never try to fault SiL when it comes to penguins...
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Predators find this sexy... ;D
Good heavens...
But I'd imagine so, yes. :)
That "Image Hosted by Tripod" image can butter my bread any day.
Quote from: SiL on Nov 16, 2007, 08:47:50 PM
That "Image Hosted by Tripod" image can butter my bread any day.
It's wonderfully erotic, isn't it?
In all seriousness, though, you have to click on 'properties', then copy and paste the site address directly.
But I wouldn't recommend it, in this particular case. :)
It's it on a goatse level of disgusting?
Pred's find vomiting erotic/a turn on/sexy. ;)
http://gallonchallenge.tripod.com/id2.html (http://gallonchallenge.tripod.com/id2.html)
Here go... :)
It's one of those weirdo sites of people drinking as much as they can of a gallon of milk until they puke...it's pretty funny to actually see people voluntarily doing this to themselves... :D
Predators reproduce basically the same way humans do, there are males and females, end of story, that would be stupid if they established otherwise, which I doubt they will. I can live with not having a good explanation for the Predalien having that ability, but if they in anyway show that the predators reproduce like chet, I will be really pissed.
Now you know how Alien fans feel.
Im just as much of an alien fan as a predator one, its just that the Aliens are very strange creatures. its easier to believe that they could somehow have an alternative cycle.
Quote from: AdamJZ on Nov 16, 2007, 09:08:57 PM
Predators reproduce basically the same way humans do, there are males and females, end of story,
That's what the majority of fans
assume and would like, but again, there's no canonical basis for any theory of Predator reproduction. The expanded universe is all we have to go on, and it twists everything around just as bad.
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that would be stupid if they established otherwise
I agree.
the predalien doent tak the barf thing from preds the sam way human-hybrids dont use sexual intercourse to reproduce, the barf method is used by all young queens.
well unfortunatley thats not whats being said, and Chet cannot be a young queen as the facehugger that got scar was not a queen facehugger.
It doesn't say anywhere about the Predator lifecycle being barfing. It just says the Pred dna changed it.
Nothing.
Besides, they already said it is a young Queen. SiL and Colin had a big debate about it when it was first announced.
It hints that Preds barf in eachothers mouths ;)
read the forums, lik the "New reproduction method now official" one, chet is molting in2 a queen, something a drone will do if there is no queen around(which there isent), and a young queen uses this method 2 quickly produce aliens to protect her while she settles, then she starts creating egg, because using eggs means multipul host can be impregnated at once, and the queen isent put in the dangerous situation of having 2 be right infront of the potental host.
^ Exactly. Colin said it is a stage of the Queen that we haven't seen. So I guess he lied and argued with SiL for nothing than?
^^ ...? yea, chet is a young queen, but i dont think it started out as a queen because again, the facehugger on scar wasnt a superfacehugger, so its molting in2 a queen, and is young, so is basicly a young queen.
Colin backtracked at the convention, saying the reproductive method may have been a result of coming from a Predator.
Do Predators have dingelings? Anyone know?
I don't have anything against giving Predators non-human ways of doing stuff, although agree with the early comment that, considering the mouths they have, sex would be a downright lethal exercise, if they do it like that.
Quote from: Yellow Alien on Nov 16, 2007, 10:04:20 PM
^ Exactly. Colin said it is a stage of the Queen that we haven't seen. So I guess he lied and argued with SiL for nothing than?
As shown during the early stages of the 'blue liquid' discussion here, the guy has been known to reappraise his own opinions in a very short space of time. :)
Which, y'know, is no bad thing... It's just that the end result of throwing in all these very fluid ideas for the fun of it is that they might not have much of a solid foundation.
Quote from: Horhey on Nov 16, 2007, 10:09:14 PM
Do Predators have dingelings? Anyone know?
The last batch of costumes were sculpted with something like them, yeah... Whether they'll ever feature on screen, WolfsGirl can only hope. ;)
You know what?
I'm gonna just stop caring now.
Weird thought:
If Predators do it like that, does this mean the ones fighting Dutch and Harrigan were basically flashing their genitals in front of them?
Quote from: Yellow Alien on Nov 16, 2007, 10:12:20 PM
You know what?
I'm gonna just stop caring now.
One of us! One of us!
Preds do have nads, they do!
Otherwise they wouldn't be wearing crotch armor. ;)
I just love how were getting conflicting reports about this new reproduction cycle. First it is a Queen, now it's because the Predators f**k each other in their pussy mouths, and the Predalien loves that so much he had to assimilate it.
You can really see how much thought they put into it.
Preserving canon by saying 'f**k it, we want something new!' since 2006.
Quote from: Yellow Alien on Nov 16, 2007, 10:00:52 PM
Besides, they already said it is a young Queen. SiL and Colin had a big debate about it when it was first announced.
WOW! So they think that if a regular facehugger impregnates a predator the result will be a....predalien queen?! My god, thats GENUIS! >:(
Just to let you know, I wasn't attacking your post. Just showing now how i think that they probably didn't think through a single thing when making this film.
Quote from: Xenomorphine on Nov 16, 2007, 10:10:12 PM
As shown during the early stages of the 'blue liquid' discussion here, the guy has been known to reappraise his own opinions in a very short space of time. :)
Add to that outright lying...he specifically said that Wolf's eye color was a direct match to the original predator...which as we can see from the bust, that's pure bullsh!t...surprise, surprise...
You know guys...you've been right all the time...The Strause Bros are after all of us fans!! >:( >:(
They lie to us, they rape our characters and reproductive methods they just don't care!! >:(
::) ;D ;D
Well i do know how the predators reproduce. And the picture of the predator costume is clearly predictable. (Wearing no clothes obviously) They reproduce like us. Remember the predator has some of the same characteristics as humans do not to mentrion they walk and run like us. So whats not to say they reproduce like us as well. I do agree with you about the strause brothers wrecking these moments. Maybe in AVP3 they will show this. Besides AVP always evolves around the alien all the time. And yet they are more stupid. Like in AVPR the predator bore the predalien and mutated it. And yet it came out 8o% alien and 20% predator. Let them make the next movie evolve around the predator this time. After all you take it in turns. ;D
I just look at it as the Alien beeing a survivor like Ash says in Alien.
Quote from: Lyana on Mar 09, 2008, 12:44:52 PM
Well i do know how the predators reproduce. And the picture of the predator costume is clearly predictable. (Wearing no clothes obviously) They reproduce like us. Remember the predator has some of the same characteristics as humans do not to mentrion they walk and run like us. So whats not to say they reproduce like us as well. I do agree with you about the strause brothers wrecking these moments. Maybe in AVP3 they will show this. Besides AVP always evolves around the alien all the time. And yet they are more stupid. Like in AVPR the predator bore the predalien and mutated it. And yet it came out 8o% alien and 20% predator. Let them make the next movie evolve around the predator this time. After all you take it in turns. ;D
Theres nothing to suggest the breed like us, they're not mammals. Aliens are capable of walking and running just like us but we all know they're reproduction method. Like it or not The Bros have basically gave Predators their method. The only twist is that the PredAlien injects Chestbursters instead of whatever Predators inject.
Quote from: That Yellow Alien on Nov 16, 2007, 10:12:20 PM
You know what?
I'm gonna just stop caring now.
Good move.
I stopped giving a damn about this movie after I found out it was crap. It baffles me that people are still talking about it.
Talk about good things, like the original films.
Quote from: War Wager on Mar 09, 2008, 03:41:57 PM
Quote from: Lyana on Mar 09, 2008, 12:44:52 PM
Well i do know how the predators reproduce. And the picture of the predator costume is clearly predictable. (Wearing no clothes obviously) They reproduce like us. Remember the predator has some of the same characteristics as humans do not to mentrion they walk and run like us. So whats not to say they reproduce like us as well. I do agree with you about the strause brothers wrecking these moments. Maybe in AVP3 they will show this. Besides AVP always evolves around the alien all the time. And yet they are more stupid. Like in AVPR the predator bore the predalien and mutated it. And yet it came out 8o% alien and 20% predator. Let them make the next movie evolve around the predator this time. After all you take it in turns. ;D
Theres nothing to suggest the breed like us, they're not mammals. Aliens are capable of walking and running just like us but we all know they're reproduction method. Like it or not The Bros have basically gave Predators their method. The only twist is that the PredAlien injects Chestbursters instead of whatever Predators inject.
Except that's only one way of looking at it, as they don't explain it in the film.
Quote from: Aeus on Mar 09, 2008, 03:44:26 PM
Quote from: That Yellow Alien on Nov 16, 2007, 10:12:20 PM
You know what?
I'm gonna just stop caring now.
Good move.
I stopped giving a damn about this movie after I found out it was crap. It baffles me that people are still talking about it.
Talk about good things, like the original films.
:-X
Theres nothing really to talk about on the originals, plus talking about this crap could alter the future movies! Or mabye not...
Quote from: SiL on Nov 16, 2007, 10:08:44 PM
Colin backtracked at the convention, saying the reproductive method may have been a result of coming from a Predator.
The BS say a lot of things, they clearly have no idea themselves and just say what they think people what to hear
they're tools.
Since they contradict themselves so much, their word on this matter means sh*t
Quote from: Aeus on Mar 09, 2008, 03:44:26 PM
Quote from: That Yellow Alien on Nov 16, 2007, 10:12:20 PM
You know what?
I'm gonna just stop caring now.
Good move.
I stopped giving a damn about this movie after I found out it was crap. It baffles me that people are still talking about it.
Talk about good things, like the original films.
I don't get it either. Why waste your time on something like
this?
Quote from: Pvt. Hicks on Mar 09, 2008, 07:11:53 PM
Quote from: Aeus on Mar 09, 2008, 03:44:26 PM
Quote from: That Yellow Alien on Nov 16, 2007, 10:12:20 PM
You know what?
I'm gonna just stop caring now.
Good move.
I stopped giving a damn about this movie after I found out it was crap. It baffles me that people are still talking about it.
Talk about good things, like the original films.
I don't get it either. Why waist your time on something like this?
Because people have time to waste...
It's pointless because not much thought was put into it anyway.
Quote from: WisePredator on Nov 16, 2007, 07:42:14 PM
Way to ruin the Predator lifecycle. >:(
Yeah,
other than that I thought the movie was great.
Quote from: Eidotemit on Mar 09, 2008, 06:49:36 PM
Quote from: SiL on Nov 16, 2007, 10:08:44 PM
Colin backtracked at the convention, saying the reproductive method may have been a result of coming from a Predator.
The BS say a lot of things, they clearly have no idea themselves and just say what they think people what to hear
they're tools.
Since they contradict themselves so much, there word on this matter means sh*t
Agreeeeeeed.
Quote from: Eidotemit on Mar 09, 2008, 06:49:36 PM
Quote from: SiL on Nov 16, 2007, 10:08:44 PM
Colin backtracked at the convention, saying the reproductive method may have been a result of coming from a Predator.
The BS say a lot of things, they clearly have no idea themselves and just say what they think people what to hear
they're tools.
Since they contradict themselves so much, there word on this matter means sh*t
Yeah I would agree with this. Seems to me they really know they screwed the pooch here, and keep changing their story so hopefully the fans will come around.
Well no ones buying it! You guys screwed around with the film's legacy and it really shows now
i have been fighting this thing for several times, but its hard to change the aspect of ppl as they are become accustomed to have the big queen alien and they wount and will not give up on that. Every one seems to want to see predalien to grow big and start hagging from ceiling as it lays eggs.
i my self welcomed the new style with open arms as it gives new aspect to the whole movie and alien life cycle and behavior. would have been bit boring to see the predalien growing large and going to som dark place to sit and dump eggs around.
Who's ieproduction are we talking about again. I am confused ???
the Predator Reproduction Method ;D
Right, i thought the subject was changed. Besides i can prove that they reproduce like us.
(Don't take it the wrong way) It will tell you on www.predatorthehunted.com
It's like a predator dictionary, hey it will even help you learn there language Oomans.
We love hunting Kiande amedha don't we. Tee Hee. LOL ;)
Anyway try it out and see what you think. If you need more proof just tell me, cos there are loads more other sites with this kinda stuff on it. (Again don't take it the wrong way)
Quote from: Lyana on Apr 03, 2008, 03:11:11 PM
Right, i thought the subject was changed. Besides i can prove that they reproduce like us.
(Don't take it the wrong way) It will tell you on www.predatorthehunted.com
It's like a predator dictionary, hey it will even help you learn there language Oomans.
We love hunting Kiande amedha don't we. Tee Hee. LOL ;)
Anyway try it out and see what you think. If you need more proof just tell me, cos there are loads more other sites with this kinda stuff on it. (Again don't take it the wrong way)
does the link not work for anyone else?
Not canon anyway.
Yes, you'll find most of that information came from novels and the like, which were often done with little regard for continuity with the films. :)
I just found it. If it don't work use google. The info is every where. I did not set up a link anyway. I just told you it. Only a newby you see, still getting used to this site.
normal aliens dont reproduce like humans
predaliens dont reproduce like preds
end of story
explain whatever way u want, for me its a young queen ability to get protection to start egg laying, why does it stop doing it? burster coem from isnide predalien, when its out of bursters theres no more, speculate about everything that suffers culateral damage, im sure u guys will find a way
or maybe egg laying is only once theres no more hosts, to assure species continuity, but it dont make sense with aliens at all.....