Why isnt there a novel of the movie? The first one had a novel which came out around this time and i have to admit the novel was million times better then movie.
Yeah, I'm a little disappointed we haven't heard anything about a novel. As far as I know, Harper Collins still has the license. If they teamed up with DH Press, I'm sure they could churn out a lovely AvP2 novel.
The AvP novel wasn't released this far in advanced. We've still got another seven months before the film's (currently) set to come out.
I never understood why people would ruin by reading the novel in advance of the movie's release. But then, that's just me.
I read the novel and reuined the first film for me. Couldn't help myself.
To be honest I didn't think I'd spoiled anything - the movie was so vastly different it didn't matter.
This is true (from what I hear). Personally, I just never want to take the risk that I'll find something out that would have made the film's first viewing that much more special had I not known it. I guess in this case it's the possible appearance by the Predalien or the victor in various fights (though granted, the single Pred kinda decides this).
But like I say...that's just me.
Same reason. I just couldnt wait. And yeah the novel was really different as far as action goes.
Oh yeah im thinkg avp 1 movie came out in december also.
I think novel came out 3 months befor movie or something
Quote from: Spoon on May 01, 2007, 01:07:54 PM
Why isnt there a novel of the movie? The first one had a novel which came out around this time and i have to admit the novel was million times better then movie.
wow a novel!? im so buying it! and from what i can usely tell most books turn to movies not movies turn to books so im not sure, but some do it the other way around it usely takes a few months before a book comes out, give it about 4 - 6 months
Quote from: Spoon on May 01, 2007, 08:27:33 PM
Same reason. I just couldnt wait. And yeah the novel was really different as far as action goes.
Oh yeah im thinkg avp 1 movie came out in december also.
I think novel came out 3 months befor movie or something
Um, the relase date was August 13, 2004 (I remember this date well for I wanted to see Yu-Gi-Oh! which came out the same date and It was the first day at my most hated school.).
In the US, yes. December might have been the release date where that fella lives.
Quote from: Corporal Hicks on May 02, 2007, 06:14:44 AM
In the US, yes. December might have been the release date where that fella lives.
I checked the guy's profile, and the clock is about 6 hours ahead, putting him by the eastern Alantic, and there is only one country who had AVP in December, and that was Japan.
That avatar is sweet Dark
LOL
Where did i say the movie came out in december?
I siad i was thinking it came out in December? Basicly I thought it did! ahhaa
Movie came out in Augest and novel came out about 3-4 months before
Just telling you.
Quote from: uhhhhh on May 02, 2007, 09:56:07 PM
That avatar is sweet Dark
Thanks. The target was hard.
Will there be a novelization for this movie?
ats a good question. That would be kinda cool, they had one fro AVP which i liked better then the actual movie.
yeah i liked the novelization better than the first movie...that would be cool if they did it for this one...i hope they do
No there wont.
WAI NAWT
Quote from: Daweism on Sep 14, 2007, 11:04:37 AM
WAI NAWT
because the story is so cheesy it would be trying to write a thick book out of some story of a random first grader's english assignment.
Quote from: xenomorph36 on Sep 14, 2007, 12:28:48 PM
Quote from: Daweism on Sep 14, 2007, 11:04:37 AM
WAI NAWT
because the story is so cheesy it would be trying to write a thick book out of some story of a random first grader's english assignment.
I would like to see some comics based off of what happens after AVP-R.
The movie is just a slasher from the looks of it. Don't think you could churn out a novel from it.
we dont know how good or bad the story is.
The Redband trailer has really been a positive and negative for the movie.
I wish the greenband had been released first because I don't think the film would be taking as much heat as it is for being a slasher film.
But I remember someone else saying that the first Alien is a slasher film covered up with a great story and visual storytelling. Can't AvP:R do the same thing?
Quote from: Aeus on Sep 14, 2007, 03:43:53 PM
The movie is just a slasher from the looks of it. Don't think you could churn out a novel from it.
Shit, they used to do novelizations of the first few Halloween and NOES movies. I'm sure anything's possible.
What about a video game besides the one on PSP?
QuoteBut I remember someone else saying that the first Alien is a slasher film covered up with a great story and visual storytelling. Can't AvP:R do the same thing?
Oh sure it's
possible but I personally don't think the Strause bros. will be able to pull it off, not because I have anything against them but because they have little directing experience. I know everyone has to start somewhere but I'd prefer it to not be on this movie. :p
There's going to be a lot of death in this movie so the slasher element will always come up but I don't think the Strause Bros are trying to make a slasher film. I guess it just depends on the person's perception of how they view the film.
I don't look at as a slasher film, but more Sci-Fi/horror/action film. A good mixture of the elements from the first Predator and Alien/Aliens. But this movie I know will not be as good as those films. No way in hell.
Chuck Norris could write an AVP-R book. :P
Quote from: WisePredator on Sep 14, 2007, 04:55:28 PM
Chuck Norris could write an AVP-R book. :P
LOL! Chuck Norris. :D
It's what I've been told by Fox and the Bros. No novel.
Were there reasons for that? That could make it the only film of either franchise not to have any.
Quote from: Xenomorphine on Sep 15, 2007, 12:00:17 AM
Were there reasons for that?
I'm sure I can think of a few...but I am already branded a hater...so I will keep them to myself... ;)
Wuss :p.
-- No one wants to do it
-- Fox doesn't want to pay for someone who does
-- Not enough story potential
-- Hesitation to invest further for fear that the movie will flop
-- Lack of foresight
I think it's just the inherent fear that they have with most of their films having info leaked onto the Internet. They had a projectionist fired by his employers because he saw FF2 a few days early and gave a review. The depths to which they'll stoop to make sure this film has as little information dripped is unfathomable.
It'll happen, but I doubt they want bad press if the fans don't like something and have an actual novelization of the film to base their anger around.
Quote from: Noir-Gojira on Sep 15, 2007, 12:13:13 AM
Wuss :p.
-- No one wants to do it
-- Fox doesn't want to pay for someone who does
-- Not enough story potential
-- Hesitation to invest further for fear that the movie will flop
-- Lack of foresight
Don't forget
-- Crappy-ish story, trying hard to get anther Ripley character
-- Already trying to bring in a new Newt(There was only one Newt)
BONUS:
-- Directors who have called themselves fans(Paul Anderson called himself a fan)
Quote from: AdamJZ on Sep 14, 2007, 04:06:36 PM
we dont know how good or bad the story is.
agree... we need to wait for it
Quote from: Aeus on Sep 14, 2007, 03:43:53 PM
The movie is just a slasher from the looks of it. Don't think you could churn out a novel from it.
Get Stephen King to write it?
Quote from: Daweism on Sep 15, 2007, 10:05:45 AM
Quote from: Aeus on Sep 14, 2007, 03:43:53 PM
The movie is just a slasher from the looks of it. Don't think you could churn out a novel from it.
Get Stephen King to write it?
LMAO, that "would" be a nightmare. :P
Quote from: ElitePredator on Sep 15, 2007, 10:19:25 AM
Quote from: Daweism on Sep 15, 2007, 10:05:45 AM
Quote from: Aeus on Sep 14, 2007, 03:43:53 PM
The movie is just a slasher from the looks of it. Don't think you could churn out a novel from it.
Get Stephen King to write it?
LMAO, that "would" be a nightmare. :P
Lol indeed, all his novels get made into "B" movies for some reason.
Quote from: echobbase79 on Sep 14, 2007, 04:09:27 PM
But I remember someone else saying that the first Alien is a slasher film covered up with a great story and visual storytelling. Can't AvP:R do the same thing?
Probably not. The thing with the old school horror mentality is that it was more story minded and classical. This enabled it to be blended with scifi to become a hybrid, something not slasher. Nowadays horror is completely cheap. Thats why I always thought the approach to these films MUST not include "were going to make a bloody monster picture". Bad connotation, slippery mindset. Make a gritty scifi film plz. And not a NERDY scifi film like A res either lol.
Now that there is no novelization, I am starting to question this film even more now. I did like the new interview and a small mention of an attempt at story, but dont they all say that?
No novel = another eerie coincidence, and I dont like it.
i would actually like marc cerasini to write the novelization
Quote from: WisePredator on Sep 14, 2007, 04:55:28 PM
Chuck Norris could write an AVP-R book. :P
Of course Chuck Norris can write an AVP-R book, he's Chuck Norris.
If they did one for 'Predator 2', which they did, they could probably do one for this.
Quote from: Gates on Sep 15, 2007, 12:01:36 AM
Quote from: Xenomorphine on Sep 15, 2007, 12:00:17 AM
Were there reasons for that?
I'm sure I can think of a few...but I am already branded a hater...so I will keep them to myself... ;)
Nah, Ive branded you as a troll, not a hater. :)
Quote
BONUS:
-- Directors who have called themselves fans(Paul Anderson called himself a fan)
He is a fan. That actually explains why his work sucked so badly.
The man isn't quite a fan. That would imply that he's a fanatic, and there are plenty of things in his adaptions that show that he applies canon when he feels like it. I would classify him more as the fanfic author who wants to do something to make the characters his own and comes up with a story that definitely sounds like someone with too much free time made...only he then goes to studios and has a whole film made on the story he wrote. :-\
QuoteThe man isn't quite a fan. That would imply that he's a fanatic, and there are plenty of things in his adaptions that show that he applies canon when he feels like it. I would classify him more as the fanfic author ...
There are levels to insanity that branch out from the same source. Whereas some people have the tendency to defend with sword and shield the canon until their blue in the face, Anderson is one that chooses to twist and shake around the canon to flow with what he feels is a good adaption.
One of the only two things about him that I find tolerable.
Point still stands, Anderson's AVP is a classic example of why fans should NEVER touch the sagas they idolize.
Is there gonna be an AvP-R novel? If yes, when will it be available?
Quote from: TheUrbanPredator on Nov 25, 2007, 03:09:19 PM
Is there gonna be an AvP-R novel? If yes, when will it be available?
I would imagine so.
Search. This thread is made all the time.
There are no plans for a novelization to be released.
Both myself and my counterpart at AXP have inquired about this several months apart. Simple answer is no.
I wonder why not...? ::) ;D ;) ;)
I'd read it.
There should be one. ;)
Quote from: Darkness on Nov 25, 2007, 03:26:52 PM
Search. This thread is made all the time.
There are no plans for a novelization to be released.
Oh man, that's sad. I really wanted to read a novelization of the film before I actually see it so I could imagine how good it would be and different from the film. Anyway thanks for telling me the bad news. ;)
You too Hicks'.
I'm glad there will be no novel. I read the novel before seeing the first AVP and I think I was even more disappointed because I was expecting certain things, but got differently. Plus everything was spoiled.
I wish there was a novel. It's horrific for me to think about this idea of departure from the norm. especially in view of the Alien franchise. Well, I think it's a sign of how the whole world is falling to pieces if they can't have a novelisation of the latest Alien movie especially if they can have novelisations for things such as Doom, and Resident Evil and whatever else. However they didn't novelise Silent Hill and that left me bitter but they novelised Transformers and even gave it a prequel novelisation and excellent comic books based on both, and Dark Horse will still be pumping out novels based on the Predator and Alien movies
I think that the AVP movie comic book tie in was a small pile of trash, I didn't understand the point of it.
There's probably not enough story/dialog/character development/logic in the film to pay some poor schmuck to write a novel around.
Yeah from what I gather we're going to be following the predator and predalien through sections of the movie which would probably be tricky from a writers point of view. It was kind of interesting to read sections of the A:R novelisation from the alien's perspective but I could easily see someone "getting it wrong" especially if the pred/alien exclusive sections are quite long.
Quote from: Robotpo on Nov 25, 2007, 06:27:02 PM
There's probably not enough story/dialog/character development/logic in the film to pay some poor schmuck to write a novel around.
Probably. :)
Also i think it would have been hard to write one anyway considering the Bro's rewrote a lot of the script early on and have kept tweeking things as they've progressed through production and let the actors have some freedom to do their own things.
Yah.
Must admit I didnt know that. There should be a novel, there was for the first AvP though I never read it myself. I wonder why...anyone actually know the reason? Surely it cant be money, certainly this being "R" rated you'd think it'd have a bit more appeal than last time.
Is there any news of a novel yet? I'm hoping so (I'll see the movie first, I just want to beable to read the novel as well!)
It's never coming, unless you'd like to read "The AICN Novelization: Abridged Version."
Quote from: Spoon on May 01, 2007, 01:07:54 PM
Why isnt there a novel of the movie? The first one had a novel which came out around this time and i have to admit the novel was million times better then movie.
We will see will AvP R get an novel. ;)
Quote from: The Chibi Kiriyama on Dec 03, 2007, 07:17:05 PM
It's never coming, unless you'd like to read "The AICN Novelization: Abridged Version."
What the hell is that?
It's out in like 3 weeks, I wouldn't read it even if there was a novel.
If I've said it once, I've said it a million times. There isn't one.
Quote from: Corporal Hicks on Dec 03, 2007, 11:40:40 PM
If I've said it once, I've said it a million times. There isn't one.
Which is really weird...films like this cash in big time on novelizations...plus with all the tie-in merchandising they're already doing, I'm surprised they didn't go for it.
Can someone tell me what the AICN novelisation is?
Lol a novelization... if it does come out, i'll wait for one of you to read it and tell us about it... and i'll maybe read it, but i have about 10 unread Warhammer Fantasy and Warhammer 40,000 novels collecting dust on my coffee table.
Quote from: Robotpo on Nov 25, 2007, 06:27:02 PM
There's probably not enough story/dialog/character development/logic in the film to pay some poor schmuck to write a novel around.
yes, good point. Well if there was to be a novelisation at this point that was likely to inspire me to buy it, it certainly wouldn't be based on what I've seen in the movie. Gosh it would have to be as far away from the cinema movie as I could go
Quote from: badass_badger on Dec 04, 2007, 05:35:11 AM
Lol a novelization... if it does come out, i'll wait for one of you to read it and tell us about it... and i'll maybe read it, but i have about 10 unread Warhammer Fantasy and Warhammer 40,000 novels collecting dust on my coffee table.
maybe I'll read a thousand fan fiction pieces before I'd read an AVP:R novelisation