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Posted by Russ
 - Jun 12, 2017, 11:03:01 AM
 :laugh:

It's brilliant. I love it!
Posted by Huggs
 - Jun 09, 2017, 11:30:31 PM
Take the series forward in written form. No need to cast aged actors, or make digital changes. Literature knows no boundaries. Gibson's Alien 3 was one of the most enjoyable reads I've ever read, and it's just a movie script.

Or, hehe, go full throttle ridiculous, and eliminate the freakin' prequels. Say the David storyline was a "mental" product of Ash trying to imagine what his "kind" could accomplish if granted free will. Ripley has been in acoma since he attacked her on the nostromo. The remaining crew was "expended". The specimen was protected and returned to the company. There was no Alien's, Alien 3, or Resurrection. She awakens in a dark room, lights flickering, to haunting silence. She struggles to stand, and moves toward a mirror on the other side of the room. She sees her aged reflection, and screams. Weeping, she pushes open the door to the hospital room, and steps into the hallway. It is destroyed. During her coma, the Aliens broke loose and multiplied, escaping the facility and taking over the world. She hears a distant Alien screech, and something moves just ahead in the darkness. It charges, she screams, it's a man....Bryan Cranston in his season 1 undies. He pulls a .45 from nature's holster, and says "we gotta move baby!"  ;D  Flash the amc logo.
Posted by Hughughug
 - Jun 09, 2017, 10:51:48 PM
Quote from: bb-15 on Jun 09, 2017, 07:12:32 PM
Quote from: Valaquen on Jun 04, 2017, 11:30:13 AM
Also kind of tired of Ridley being called the creator of the series. He's not really a sci-fi guy: O'Bannon, Cobb, Shusett all were. They knew Lovecraft. Scott invokes von Daniken. Moebius called him "an enlightened amateur". I think I agree wth that.

With a complicated, big budget film, there is no one creator in terms of the people involved. Big budget/complicated movies are a team effort.
Still, there is often going to be a debate about which person on the team was the most important in making a big budget/complex film which launches a franchise.
What does launch a franchise?
That can get confused with semantics and knowing the role of the director.

1. Follow the money; Movies that make good money can create a franchise.
"Alien" made money. That is why the studio approved the next sequel.
Why did it make money?
2. Scott as the director of "Alien", gets some credit for why "Alien" was a financial success.
- With a strong director, he / she is usually one of the main creative forces in a film.
When Ridley has a passion project, which is true of his science fiction movies expect for "The Martian", he is going to be involved with almost all aspects of the production.
3. Professional writers create stories but they may never get filmed such as with Asimov's "Foundation" series. Asimov being a professional writer has almost nothing to do if a movie franchise is created.
- Producers who get the funding and directors who call the shots on the set are usually not professional science fiction writers.
But directors who are not professional writers can have a tremendous effect in launching a science fiction film franchise.
- Take Star Trek movies. Director Robert Wise was not a professional science fiction writer but his "ST: The Motion Picture" made money.
The next ST movie, "Wrath of Khan", was directed by Nicholas Meyer who knew nothing about Star Trek so on that level would be an "amateur".
But Meyer was the right director. Of the thousands of decisions needed to make a film, Meyer made the right ones with "Wrath of Khan".
WOK not only made money but it started the formula for how Star Trek movies could be successful.
Leonard Nimoy has said that Meyer saved the Star Trek movie franchise.   
4. Other directors who were considered for "Alien" before Ridley were going to make a schlock horror film where blood and guts were thrown at actors.
Scott as the director made many decisions about the visual look of the film.
- Importantly, Ridley guided Giger in creating the xenomorph and the Space Jockey.
- The movie's pace, use of lighting, the intensity of the film was mostly due to Scott.

* Once the team was beginning to form, no Ridley, no Alien franchise imo. In that sense Scott can be argued as the most important creator of the series.

:)

Not to undermine Scott's achievements, but then again, he wanted to end Alien like this  ::)

http://ew.com/movies/2017/04/03/alien-ridley-scott-alternate-ending/
Posted by PierreVW
 - Jun 09, 2017, 07:33:31 PM
Quote from: bb-15 on Jun 09, 2017, 07:12:32 PM
Quote from: Valaquen on Jun 04, 2017, 11:30:13 AM
Also kind of tired of Ridley being called the creator of the series. He's not really a sci-fi guy: O'Bannon, Cobb, Shusett all were. They knew Lovecraft. Scott invokes von Daniken. Moebius called him "an enlightened amateur". I think I agree wth that.

With a complicated, big budget film, there is no one creator in terms of the people involved. Big budget/complicated movies are a team effort.
Still, there is often going to be a debate about which person was the most important in making a big budget/complex film which launches a franchise.
What does launch a franchise?
That can get confused with semantics and knowing the role of the director.

1. Follow the money; Movies that make good money can create a franchise.
"Alien" made money. That is why the studio approved the next sequel.
Why did it make money?
2. Scott as the director of "Alien", gets some credit for why "Alien" was a financial success.
- With a strong director, he / she is usually one of the main creative forces in a film.
When Ridley has a passion project, which is true of his science fiction movies expect for "The Martian", he is going to be involved with almost all aspects of the production.
3. Professional writers create stories but they may never get filmed such as with Asimov's "Foundation" series. Asimov being a professional writer has almost nothing to do if a movie franchise is created.
- Producers who get the funding and directors who call the shots on the set are usually not professional science fiction writers.
But directors who are not professional writers can have a tremendous effect in launching a science fiction film franchise.
- Take Star Trek movies. Director Robert Wise was not a professional science fiction writer but his "ST: The Motion Picture" made money.
The next ST movie, "Wrath of Khan", was directed by Nicholas Meyer who knew nothing about Star Trek so on that level would be an "amateur".
But Meyer was the right director. Of the thousands of decisions needed to make a film, Meyer made the right ones with "Wrath of Khan".
WOK not only made money but it started the formula for how Star Trek movies could be successful.
Leonard Nimoy has said that Meyer saved the Star Trek movie franchise.   
4. Other directors who were considered for "Alien" before Ridley were going to make a schlock horror film where blood and guts were thrown at actors.
Scott as the director made many decisions about the visual look of the film.
- Importantly, Ridley guided Giger in creating the xenomorph and the Space Jockey.
- The movie's pace, use of lighting, the intensity of the film was mostly due to Scott.

* Once the team was beginning to form, no Ridley, no Alien franchise imo. In that sense Scott can be argued as the most important creator of the series.

:)

I agree 100%.
Posted by bb-15
 - Jun 09, 2017, 07:12:32 PM
Quote from: Valaquen on Jun 04, 2017, 11:30:13 AM
Also kind of tired of Ridley being called the creator of the series. He's not really a sci-fi guy: O'Bannon, Cobb, Shusett all were. They knew Lovecraft. Scott invokes von Daniken. Moebius called him "an enlightened amateur". I think I agree wth that.

With a complicated, big budget film, there is no one creator in terms of the people involved. Big budget/complicated movies are a team effort.
Still, there is often going to be a debate about which person on the team was the most important in making a big budget/complex film which launches a franchise.
What does launch a franchise?
That can get confused with semantics and knowing the role of the director.

1. Follow the money; Movies that make good money can create a franchise.
"Alien" made money. That is why the studio approved the next sequel.
Why did it make money?
2. Scott as the director of "Alien", gets some credit for why "Alien" was a financial success.
- With a strong director, he / she is usually one of the main creative forces in a film.
When Ridley has a passion project, which is true of his science fiction movies expect for "The Martian", he is going to be involved with almost all aspects of the production.
3. Professional writers create stories but they may never get filmed such as with Asimov's "Foundation" series. Asimov being a professional writer has almost nothing to do if a movie franchise is created.
- Producers who get the funding and directors who call the shots on the set are usually not professional science fiction writers.
But directors who are not professional writers can have a tremendous effect in launching a science fiction film franchise.
- Take Star Trek movies. Director Robert Wise was not a professional science fiction writer but his "ST: The Motion Picture" made money.
The next ST movie, "Wrath of Khan", was directed by Nicholas Meyer who knew nothing about Star Trek so on that level would be an "amateur".
But Meyer was the right director. Of the thousands of decisions needed to make a film, Meyer made the right ones with "Wrath of Khan".
WOK not only made money but it started the formula for how Star Trek movies could be successful.
Leonard Nimoy has said that Meyer saved the Star Trek movie franchise.   
4. Other directors who were considered for "Alien" before Ridley were going to make a schlock horror film where blood and guts were thrown at actors.
Scott as the director made many decisions about the visual look of the film.
- Importantly, Ridley guided Giger in creating the xenomorph and the Space Jockey.
- The movie's pace, use of lighting, the intensity of the film was mostly due to Scott.

* Once the team was beginning to form, no Ridley, no Alien franchise imo. In that sense Scott can be argued as the most important creator of the series.

:)

Posted by Perfect-Organism
 - Jun 09, 2017, 12:53:53 PM
The fans have the power to still make this happen.  ::)
Posted by newagescamartist
 - Jun 09, 2017, 09:08:08 AM
Quote from: darkvegett0 on Jun 09, 2017, 12:25:18 AM
Wow I'm surprised that people are defending alien covenant that was  horrible and to tell with a3 and A:R and Ridley Scott needs to step down asap...

Some people like Covenant, Alien 3, and A:R. We know nothing about Alien 5, but I'd love to see what the story was going to be about. I think that could settle this yay or nay once and for all. The fact that it hasn't leaked tells me that it's under tight wrap which means there is probably still a small glimmer of hope.
Posted by SM
 - Jun 09, 2017, 12:33:05 AM
I think perhaps take some of those full stops at the end of your post and place them in the appropriate places in that run-on sentence.
Posted by darkvegett0
 - Jun 09, 2017, 12:25:18 AM
Wow I'm surprised that people are defending alien covenant that was  horrible and to tell with a3 and A:R and Ridley Scott needs to step down asap...
Posted by dHunter333
 - Jun 08, 2017, 05:22:34 PM
or a proper avp movie...predator vs alien the reboot lol
Posted by I'mSadNow
 - Jun 08, 2017, 01:21:26 PM
Posted by dHunter333
 - Jun 08, 2017, 06:12:01 AM
RIP Alien 5
I was so looking forward to this...Aliens has been my favorite movie since I was about 6.
As I get older (33 now), I enjoy Alien more and more, but still prefer Aliens.
I would love to see the colonial marines one more time...if we dont get Alien 5...please give us some movie that takes place shortly after Alien 3, with different characters.
An Aliens rip off could be quite fun if handled right...
Posted by SM
 - Jun 08, 2017, 05:16:45 AM
I don't think Bill was going to be in Alien 5...
Posted by teguh
 - Jun 08, 2017, 03:05:36 AM
So the official sequel for alien franchise will be A3 and A:R

I feel emptiness by not seeing Weaver and Biehn , the rest of the team and for honoring Bill Paxton in A5.

Well this is it then.    :-[
Posted by Jacku
 - Jun 07, 2017, 10:59:45 PM
If this film isn't happening can that fan film about an adult Newt be made now?
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