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Title: [Grain Of Salt] Aliens/3/Resurrection 4K Remasters Inbound
Post by: Corporal Hicks on Feb 23, 2021, 08:41:07 PM
EXCLUSIVE: Aliens, Alien 3 and Alien Resurrection are being remastered in 4K for 4K Blu-ray and Disney+ release (https://www.thedigitalfix.com/film/home-releases-news/aliens-exclusive/)

QuoteNow that Disney+ has launched 'Star' - their adult section on the streaming network, a few films are conspicuous in their absence. Three of them, we have been exclusively told, are currently undergoing a 4K remaster ahead of their debut on the service alongside a 4K Blu-ray release of each of the films.

Aliens, Alien 3 and Alien: Resurrection are the only films in the Alien series not to have 4K editions available but this is set to change with the plan being to release them on Disney+/Star initially with a subsequent 4K Alien Collection heading to 4K Blu-ray some time in 2022.

We are trying to clarify what we can expect in terms of the versions of the films included in the set - both Aliens and Alien 3 have highly regarded director's cuts on other formats, so we hope they'll make it to 4K in some way too. We also expect the 4K Blu-ray releases to include new features and footage that has previously not been made available. We're trying to confirm more on this right now.

I'm not familiar with the outlet so I don't know how reliable this is.
Title: Re: [Grain Of Salt] Aliens/3/Resurrection 4K Remasters Inbound
Post by: Voodoo Magic on Feb 23, 2021, 08:56:09 PM
Would be so awesome if true... but just trying to wrap my head around why they would pull back from streaming it in the UK but not in other countries. 🤔

Also, would this would mean JC finally approved the Aliens 4K master?

And finally, I assume the DC stuff will just be upscaled again, if included.

We'll see...!
Title: Re: [Grain Of Salt] Aliens/3/Resurrection 4K Remasters...
Post by: BlueMarsalis79 on Feb 23, 2021, 09:32:58 PM
Crossing my fingers intensely for Alien³ finally getting the treatment (I believe) it deserves, oh and of course seeing Aliens, and Alien Resurrection in 4K HDR will also be a immense treat.
Title: Re: [Grain Of Salt] Aliens/3/Resurrection 4K Remasters...
Post by: [cancerblack] on Feb 23, 2021, 10:13:32 PM
Gimmie that 4K Khondji
Title: Re: [Grain Of Salt] Aliens/3/Resurrection 4K Remasters Inbound
Post by: SiL on Feb 23, 2021, 10:30:11 PM
All the films are available in Australia airway, but wouldn't say no to getting the 4k for all of them. Alien looks great streaming.
Title: Re: [Grain Of Salt] Aliens/3/Resurrection 4K Remasters Inbound
Post by: Nightmare Asylum on Feb 23, 2021, 11:11:57 PM
PLEASE
Title: Re: [Grain Of Salt] Aliens/3/Resurrection 4K Remasters...
Post by: BlueMarsalis79 on Feb 23, 2021, 11:26:40 PM
I'd actually kill though
Title: Re: [Grain Of Salt] Aliens/3/Resurrection 4K Remasters Inbound
Post by: Nukiemorph on Feb 24, 2021, 12:26:00 AM
Wouldn't be too surprised if this was true... but I'll be very surprised if they give the 4K effort to the assembly cut.
Title: Re: [Grain Of Salt] Aliens/3/Resurrection 4K Remasters...
Post by: BlueMarsalis79 on Feb 24, 2021, 12:32:04 AM
Best of both worlds please and thank you.
Title: Re: [Grain Of Salt] Aliens/3/Resurrection 4K Remasters Inbound
Post by: Voodoo Magic on Feb 24, 2021, 04:06:07 AM
If I am recollecting correctly, they only upscaled the Alien 1979 DC content to 4K, and then used seemless branching to insert where necessary within the new 4k transfer theatrical cut. So I don't see why they wouldn't do the same with the AC for Alien3.
Title: Re: [Grain Of Salt] Aliens/3/Resurrection 4K Remasters Inbound
Post by: Nukiemorph on Feb 24, 2021, 04:13:16 AM
Hope so.
Title: Re: [Grain Of Salt] Aliens/3/Resurrection 4K Remasters...
Post by: BlueMarsalis79 on Feb 24, 2021, 04:55:40 AM
It gets complicated when you have alternate versions of scenes. Even the Alien 4K HDR "DC" accidentally omitted the starfields from the actual DC on the 2010 Blu-ray for instance. I just honestly don't know if that will work for the Aliens and Alien³ Special Editions.
Title: Re: [Grain Of Salt] Aliens/3/Resurrection 4K Remasters Inbound
Post by: Voodoo Magic on Feb 24, 2021, 05:02:57 AM
Quote from: Trash Queen on Feb 24, 2021, 04:55:40 AM
It gets complicated when you have alternate versions of scenes. Even the Alien 4K HDR "DC" accidentally omitted the starfields from the actual DC on the 2010 Blu-ray for instance. I just honestly don't know if that will work for the Aliens and Alien³ Special Editions.

Ah, true, all good points.
Title: Re: [Grain Of Salt] Aliens/3/Resurrection 4K Remasters...
Post by: SiL on Feb 24, 2021, 05:41:47 AM
Quote from: Trash Queen on Feb 24, 2021, 04:55:40 AM
It gets complicated when you have alternate versions of scenes. Even the Alien 4K HDR "DC" accidentally omitted the starfields from the actual DC on the 2010 Blu-ray for instance. I just honestly don't know if that will work for the Aliens and Alien³ Special Editions.
The original Quadrilogy release of the A3 SE was done with branching in some regions, and the only problem it caused was Murphy saying "Spike?" before the acid spit.

Considering branching is intended to save space and memory, it makes sense they'd just use the TE star field shots of the Nostromo flybys rather than branch an otherwise identical shot. It's no big loss.
Title: Re: [Grain Of Salt] Aliens/3/Resurrection 4K Remasters Inbound
Post by: Corporal Hicks on Feb 24, 2021, 05:58:16 AM
https://twitter.com/vashikoo/status/1363807202843107331

So this guy is apparently where the website got their exclusive? Not sure if its official work or not?
Title: Re: [Grain Of Salt] Aliens/3/Resurrection 4K Remasters Inbound
Post by: SiL on Feb 24, 2021, 06:01:21 AM
It'll be interesting to see if he was working on it, or if he just did some 4K upscales for personal experimentation and the announcement coincided. The comments on his "This was quick!" Tweet seem to imply he wasn't working on it officially.

But let's see!
Title: Re: [Grain Of Salt] Aliens/3/Resurrection 4K Remasters...
Post by: Predalien39 on Feb 24, 2021, 06:12:29 AM

This is great news. Here are my hopes:
1) they take this opportunity to fix the compositing issues in Alien 3.
2) as much as I dislike AVP the proper extended cut needs a better release. A lot of fans don't even realize it exists, only the extended opening version. And if they release the extended cut, I hope they redo the cgi blood they had added. It's dated and cheap looking.
Title: Re: [Grain Of Salt] Aliens/3/Resurrection 4K Remasters...
Post by: BlueMarsalis79 on Feb 24, 2021, 06:22:50 AM
Considering a lot of the compositing can be "patched up" by simply getting rid of the green tint, I hope that's the bare minimum we get, anything more extensive gets more expensive- much as the Alien itself ought to be excised from most of the first act entirely.

The Special Edition's changed with each release I expect it will change again with this one.
Title: Re: [Grain Of Salt] Aliens/3/Resurrection 4K Remasters Inbound
Post by: Adam802 on Feb 24, 2021, 03:20:18 PM
Yes!  Cant wait!
Title: Re: [Grain Of Salt] Aliens/3/Resurrection 4K Remasters Inbound
Post by: The Eighth Passenger on Feb 24, 2021, 04:45:11 PM
Quote from: SiL on Feb 24, 2021, 06:01:21 AM
It'll be interesting to see if he was working on it, or if he just did some 4K upscales for personal experimentation and the announcement coincided. The comments on his "This was quick!" Tweet seem to imply he wasn't working on it officially.

But let's see!

If he was working on it in an official capacity for Disney then I don't think he would have been dropping hints of it's existence - NDA and all that.

Interesting though to see that CdL follows him...
Title: Re: [Grain Of Salt] Aliens/3/Resurrection 4K Remasters Inbound
Post by: Hunter-Killer on Feb 24, 2021, 05:06:17 PM
This is cool, I'm completely ignorant when it comes to 4K and didn't really pay attention to the alien release until I found out that it had the short films with it. I DJ metal and punk rock records while playing sci-fi and horror movies on a projector, I try to stick to blu-rays, I'm curious if 4K is really going to be twice as good as Blu-ray. I tend to stick to the first two alien and predator movies, sometimes I'll throw on predators or covenant, but in this case I might actually decide to play alien three and resurrection haha
Title: Re: [Grain Of Salt] Aliens/3/Resurrection 4K Remasters Inbound
Post by: Perfect-Organism on Feb 25, 2021, 02:29:55 AM
Yeah baby yeah!

Ok but seriously, Aliens is soooo grainy.  What are they going to do to correct that?
Title: Re: [Grain Of Salt] Aliens/3/Resurrection 4K Remasters Inbound
Post by: SiL on Feb 25, 2021, 02:48:10 AM
I don't think they should. Film grain in 4K looks nice.
Title: Re: [Grain Of Salt] Aliens/3/Resurrection 4K Remasters...
Post by: BlueMarsalis79 on Feb 25, 2021, 02:56:25 AM
Yes and the Blu-ray already got a tasteful DNR application.
Title: Re: [Grain Of Salt] Aliens/3/Resurrection 4K Remasters Inbound
Post by: SiL on Feb 25, 2021, 03:10:32 AM
There is no such thing.
Title: Re: [Grain Of Salt] Aliens/3/Resurrection 4K Remasters Inbound
Post by: Huggs on Feb 25, 2021, 03:37:33 AM
Quote from: Perfect-Organism on Feb 25, 2021, 02:29:55 AM
Yeah baby yeah!

Ok but seriously, Aliens is soooo grainy.  What are they going to do to correct that?

Its already been done.
Title: Re: [Grain Of Salt] Aliens/3/Resurrection 4K Remasters Inbound
Post by: BlueMarsalis79 on Feb 25, 2021, 03:40:38 AM
Quote from: SiL on Feb 25, 2021, 03:10:32 AM
There is no such thing.

I agree in all but this one case.
Title: Re: [Grain Of Salt] Aliens/3/Resurrection 4K Remasters...
Post by: Huggs on Feb 25, 2021, 03:43:02 AM
Quote from: Huggs on Mar 17, 2018, 08:07:27 PM
Quote from: HuDaFuK on Mar 17, 2018, 09:40:26 AM
Quote from: Huggs on Mar 16, 2018, 11:17:06 PMThe only reason I'm hanging on to my Alien quadrilogy and original predator dvd's is due to the grain removal the blu-rays of Predator and Aliens went through.

I don't think Aliens had any serious grain-removal for the Blu-ray. At least, not so far as I remember reading in reviews.

Also the first Predator Blu had plenty of grain, but on the flipside, no special features. The later one that had the big DNR controversy had a bunch of bonus stuff.

Didn't Cameron say they went through and really cleared up the picture in aliens for the Blu-ray? I seem to remember him making a big deal about it. I know it wasn't bad originally, but I think he was really proud of what they did for the Blu-ray. It does looks rather good.

EDIT

Yep, he did. Just skimmed through an article over at bluray.com.

Quote: "It's spectacular. We went in and completely de-noised it, de-grained it, up-rezzed, color-corrected every frame, and it looks amazing. It looks better that it looked in the theaters originally. Because it was shot on a high-speed negative that was a new negative that didn't pan out too well and got replaced the following year. So it's pretty grainy. We got rid of all the grain. It's sharper and clearer and more beautiful than it's ever looked. And we did that to the long version, to the 'director's cut' or the extended play."
Title: Re: [Grain Of Salt] Aliens/3/Resurrection 4K Remasters Inbound
Post by: AVP-CAPCOM on Feb 25, 2021, 09:12:23 AM
I'd always wished the Alien Trilogy (don't count the 4th as canon - sorry!) would get The Star Wars - Special Edition or Blade Runner Final Cut treatment with cleaned up or added special effects.

The issue with 4K remasters is the picture is "too clear" in revealing out-dated effects, unconvincing scaled models that are Thunderbirds are go! tier, weird green screen outlines, stuntmen extra bloopers.

Aliens and Alien 3 would really benefit from this. Some want lists

Aliens
- Fix the dropship sequence slightly or CGI the ship itself in some shots. The unwinged combat mode with headlights and APC dust-off landing was fine though.
- Add (practical) alien death effects to the sentry gun sequence rather than stock footage of prior scenes
- The alien queen minatures with the exception of her getting blown out the airlock

Alien 3
- While the suitmation stuff is fine sort out that damn rod puppet and overlays. Especially in the "flare throwing" tunnel running scene. Otherwise the work Charles de Lauzirika did on the Assembly Cut was amazing.