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We have just uploaded the 156th episode of the Alien vs. Predator Galaxy Podcast (right-click and save as to download)! Corporal Hicks and RidgeTop once again have the honor of being joined by Amalgamated Dynamics Inc’s Tom Woodruff Jr. to talk about the practical effects of Prey for the 156th episode of the podcast!

We talk early test sessions of the Feral Predator’s physique, teasing Feral Predator performer Dane Diliegro, developing less advanced Predator weaponry, and plenty more!

We’ve previously had the pleasure of being joined by ADI’s Alec Gillis and Tom Woodruff Jr. on a number of occasions over the years. If you haven’t already, or fancy revisiting them, be sure to check out our previous chats with the creature effect maestros: Tom Woodruff Jr. talks performing inside the Alien suit, Tom & Alec talk long involvement with the Alien series, and Alec Gillis talks working on The Predator.

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I'm gonna rub this all over my ear canals. f**k yeah

Loved to hear that the Biomask lights had a pulse to them! Would LOVE to see how it would look in motion.

Unrelated but has anyone found the "Prometheus" engineer head hidden in "Star Wars: Andor" ?

STOP TALKING ABOUT PREY ! I'M SICK OF HEARING ABOUT f**kING PREY ! BWAAAAARGH !

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Just kidding, great episide, gentlemen, always a joy to hear from ADI fellas

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Hell yeah! Love this podcast.

Another really nice podcast! It's always great hearing Tom talking about the making of these movies and the philosophies behind their design decisions and everything like that.

Here's hoping he's able to get some of those pitches funded at some point too (including Alien Salvation ;D )!

Here's a transcription of the main points:

https://www.avpgalaxy.net/website/interviews/tom-woodruff-2/

"Did you guys have much communication with the digital team?"
"No."

That certainly explains a lot.

I like how they balance "ancient old technology" with "high technology that overrides local culture", but I wonder if the background of the predator technology in the movie is different from the novel?

I remember the Predator technology all came from another alien race that used to enslave them, until the Predator overthrew them and took all the technology, they basically just fix it, if they can't fix it they throw it aside, the Predator can't Develop new technologies.

I'm not sure but I remember seeing something similar, and if so, the old Predator tech in prey (although it looks awesome) doesn't seem like a good fit.

Anyway, I love the new movie and I can't wait to see more!(https://emos.plurk.com/44986a0506e5aa059f8a3122108620ad_w48_h48.gif)

The movies have never used that as lore.

Quote from: Ar-Druinn on Dec 04, 2022, 10:31:30 PMI like how they balance "ancient old technology" with "high technology that overrides local culture", but I wonder if the background of the predator technology in the movie is different from the novel?

I remember the Predator technology all came from another alien race that used to enslave them, until the Predator overthrew them and took all the technology, they basically just fix it, if they can't fix it they throw it aside, the Predator can't Develop new technologies.

I'm not sure but I remember seeing something similar, and if so, the old Predator tech in prey (although it looks awesome) doesn't seem like a good fit.

Anyway, I love the new movie and I can't wait to see more!https://emos.plurk.com/44986a0506e5aa059f8a3122108620ad_w48_h48.gif

Hunting Grounds suggests that Predators can't fix their equipment but Isabelle's comments are suspect given she was on the game preserve which is a Predator operated environment. It doesn't mean much if they drop or lost something here. Predator equipment also stay functional despite receiving a ton of damage as we've seen xeno punched helmets and captured's blown out eye helmet as still being functional to some degree. Basically if they had to drop it, it's not worth keeping.

This also flies in the face of the films as we've seen Wolf improvise a pistol out of his shoulder cannon. Yeah if something is broken they'll drop dead weight but we've seen them do that already to keep a battle going. Even Hunting Grounds itself depicts Predators like Exile who uses local resources to mend and maintain his gear given he can't make proper repairs. It's not that he's dumb, he outright can't fix it due to being banned from Predator space. Or even Bionic who uses cybernetics that double as his body armor. Yeah slave labor could be making these things but that still doesn't address Wolf or Exile who are shown to be able to make repairs and adjustments in the field.

The Amengi story in-universe is also a legend. The only item we know to exist would be the sickle, that doesn't mean the events surrounding it are accurate. Alpha would have to come with an asterisk given the nature of the story surrounding him. He wouldn't be considered a legend if that was historical record.

The Predators either steeling or not quite understanding the technology they use has always been something of an expanded-universe thing, not really something we've seen in the films.

And honestly, it's always been one of those EU elements I do actually like. That's not to say all Predators are unintelligent when it comes to equipment. The Predators are individuals, it's one of the franchise's strengths, and I think it's entirely reasonable that some would be more able to understand their equipment than others. I would equate it to proper gun maintenance or something like that.

Their custom fit, purpose built tech really doesn't scream "found tech".

The wide variety of styles that we do see could speak towards them coming from many different sources, as easily as being custom to each other. And that's not to say that both ideas could co-exist too. Like I said, it's not like all Predators wouldn't be able to understand the technology they were using. It's just one of those suggestions I quite like.

Man I want them to write a source book for these guys. Like an in-universe guide to Predators cause I'd love to see what the background to Feral's people are.

Quote from: Corporal Hicks on Dec 05, 2022, 01:07:34 PMThe wide variety of styles that we do see could speak towards them coming from many different sources, as easily as being custom to each other. And that's not to say that both ideas could co-exist too. Like I said, it's not like all Predators wouldn't be able to understand the technology they were using. It's just one of those suggestions I quite like.

I'm all for some Predators not reading the user manual.

Them, as a species, having found all their tech and discarding it the second it doesn't work makes no sense (not to mention isn't supported by the films at all). It's all custom fit, personalised, shows development over time, and you'd think after several hundred years of use most of it would've broken and they'd be incapable of still travelling the stars.

Yeah, I'm with Sil on this one.

I'm not saying they wouldn't understand it, or be discarding it as it broke, or even every single piece of technology the Predators use is some stolen and incomprehensible to them. Some of the Predators would have to be able to understand it for any idea like that to make sense at all. But as a foundation of their technology, it wouldn't be unreasonable to me if it was based on some other species technology.

Quote from: Corporal Hicks on Dec 06, 2022, 06:44:43 AMI'm not saying they wouldn't understand it, or be discarding it as it broke, or even every single piece of technology the Predators use is some stolen and incomprehensible to them. Some of the Predators would have to be able to understand it for any idea like that to make sense at all.

But that's an idea presented in the EU and the one I'm arguing against.

That's fair. It's not a particularly prevalent one in the EU though (honestly, I can't even remember where the throwing it away comes from? Isabelle's logs from Hunting Ground?) I'm just saying it's one of those angles I do like and can work better with a little finesse.

My personal headcanon for Feral does adopt a bit of both. Where the technology might be a bit out there for him. That Feral and his people might have gear consistent with other Yaujta, but the real advanced stuff doesn't belong to them. He gets how to use the equipment but it didn't originate with him.

Bringing it to his pistol, he might have been given the weapon similar to how Naru acquires hers from Adolini, my thought is that he's given a weapon for whatever reason to aid in his hunt. The two having parallel journeys which could be supported by the EU. Hunting Grounds flavor text for the Elder sword specifically says that older hunters will give a weapon (in this case the sword) to aid younger hunters. The weapon might not have originated with him but could be given to him in a similar manner.

And given Greyback does acquire Adolini's pistol, it might be why he hung onto it for so long. He might've given Feral a pistol to aid him in his hunt but once he died he replaced it with Adolini's for whatever reason.

Late to the party - When I am out of work Ill have a listen but was Ferel's face change and/or it's mixed reception brought up?

Thanks,