Quote from: Kimarhi on Jul 18, 2022, 05:29:15 AMI've randomly gotten onto the UFO/UAP hypetrain recently. Started after randomly watching Secret of Skinwalker Ranch and has went to watching Hellier and reading lots of John Keel but also watching lots of other shows that are more typical UFOLOGY. The US government basically admitting they have no idea what some of the craft flying around uncontested in US skies are is also kind of a ! moment with their release of the three videos.
I think the Skinwalker (even though it isn't mentioned on the show, the tie in with the supernatural is there), Hellier and Keel kind of tieing every phenomenon whether purported extraterrestrial or supernatural into being the work of some super consciousness or Ultraterrestrial is kind of a different way of looking at things.
Like a car door closing in the woods when there is no vehicles around being a common precursor sign of supernatural/ufo activity. After hearing that statement in hellier, I've realized that there are a ton of supernatural/ufo/cryptid shows I've watched that this has happened. Productions are either well read OR...
Following it has become kind of a side hobby of mine. I've been gobbling down books and tv shows lately and have just been talking to random people about UFO stuff and have been surprised about how many people I know who have told me they've had a sighting. Dozens of them after they realize I'm not going to clown on them for seeing something.
I'm right on the 37th parallel and am fairly close to two famous UFO/Supernatural stories. The Little Green Men of Kelly (or the Hopkinsville Goblins) and the Bell Witch in TN. Further east is Somerset and Hellier even though I've never been to Hellier and haven't noticed anything strange in Somerset when I've been there.
It's got to the point I've kinda wanted to travel to places like Point Pleasant, or Dulce, Sedona, or the Uinta Basin (even though Uinta has one of the greatest hikes you can do in the states, so that is more of a draw, the fact it is home to Skinwalker Ranch would just be a secondary benefit).
In the book
"Passport to Magonia: From Folklore to Flying Saucers", Jacques Vallée links ghosts, angels, demons and UFOs as the same phenomenon which also according to his hypothesis would come from another dimension instead of other planets.
Pretty much everything was said before by Charles Fort though. He is by far the father of ufology. In his work
'The Book of the Damned', Fort compiled a series of "phenomena ignored or rejected by science", and theorized that things like UFOs or paranormal activity come from his hypothetical
"Super-Sargasso Sea" dimension. "
On the other hand, doctrines of Western esotericism such as
Theosophy used to believe that the universe we perceive is an illusion, the stars are deities and the planets are controlled by celestial spirits. They also promoted the existence of "Root Races", presumed prehistoric civilizations that preceded our own, such as Atlantis or Lemuria. Lemuria was long ago debunked, as it was originally a hypothetical continent proposed by zoologist Philip Sclater, in order to explain the absence of lemur fossils in Africa and the Middle East in contrast to the presence of these skeletal remains in Madagascar and India. Furthermore, genuinely mythical lost civilizations like Atlantis are just as real as Númenor.
However, I find the
Silurian hypothesis quite interesting, which posits the possibility that, millions of years ago, a non-human civilization existed on Earth. It's mostly a thought experiment, but the limits on the fossil record and the timescale of life on Earth make it somewhat possible, something like a Non-falsifiable hypotheses. Still perfectly debunkable thanks to
Newton's flaming laser sword.
I usually have fun watching paranormal things on youtube, but I always remain skeptical, because besides being pretentious I am rational after all.
Also, I've read that Luis Elizondo leads the current equivalent of the
Blue Book Project, called the
Advanced Aerospace Threat Identification Program. He seems pretty biased though, and to be honest, it wouldn't be the first time that a US Army officer has fallen victim to his own confirmation bias. 🤔