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Title: Alien: Covenant TV Spots
Post by: ace3g on Apr 03, 2017, 01:25:59 AM


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lNgzx_IbMqw&t=0s

Title: Re: Alien: Covenant TV Spots
Post by: Ultramorph on Apr 03, 2017, 01:30:40 AM
Dat Neomorph face! And those Big Heads!
Title: Re: Alien: Covenant TV Spots
Post by: Predaker on Apr 03, 2017, 01:32:18 AM
Was just here to post about this! :laugh:

Looks good  8)
Title: Re: Alien: Covenant TV Spots
Post by: Protozoid on Apr 03, 2017, 01:34:18 AM
The first one is nicely Prometheus-y.
Title: Re: Alien: Covenant TV Spots
Post by: Anthony on Apr 03, 2017, 01:34:22 AM
So the Neomorphs just bite. Cool.

Also, was not expecting PRAY as the final slogan
Title: Re: Alien: Covenant TV Spots
Post by: Ragonk_Force on Apr 03, 2017, 01:39:41 AM
Grown neomorph! Awesomeness
Title: Re: Alien: Covenant TV Spots
Post by: skhellter on Apr 03, 2017, 01:45:18 AM
...neomorph looks awful.



Xeno looks cool af. :)
Title: Re: Alien: Covenant TV Spots
Post by: Scorpio on Apr 03, 2017, 01:47:41 AM
You can see the eyes through the skull on that proto-xeno.  It looks like Giger's original concept when the alien had eyes.
Title: Re: Alien: Covenant TV Spots
Post by: Enoch on Apr 03, 2017, 01:49:54 AM
Great... :o
Title: Re: Alien: Covenant TV Spots
Post by: Necronomicon II on Apr 03, 2017, 01:51:51 AM
Yeah I'm not watching anymore footage, that's it for me. The reactions are encouraging though as always!
Title: Re: Alien: Covenant TV Spots
Post by: Ultramorph on Apr 03, 2017, 01:52:13 AM
Quote from: Scorpio on Apr 03, 2017, 01:47:41 AM
You can see the eyes through the skull on that proto-xeno.  It looks like Giger's original concept when the alien had eyes.

I love it.
Title: Re: Alien: Covenant TV Spots
Post by: SpeedyMaxx on Apr 03, 2017, 01:52:32 AM
Very nicely done.
Title: Re: Alien: Covenant TV Spots
Post by: Anthony on Apr 03, 2017, 01:54:30 AM
Spoiler
Also, what is Rosenthal doing to her arm in the "Hide" spot?
[close]
Title: Re: Alien: Covenant TV Spots
Post by: Bad Replicant on Apr 03, 2017, 01:58:53 AM
Yeah, seeing the alien's dripping maw in that kind of lighting and color palette again makes me happy.
Title: Re: Alien: Covenant TV Spots
Post by: Richman678 on Apr 03, 2017, 02:03:45 AM
I was about to post this too.
Title: Re: Alien: Covenant TV Spots
Post by: skhellter on Apr 03, 2017, 02:07:30 AM
(https://i.gyazo.com/5a77e5b5de783878f1e05550e3cbf7f1.png)


Yo, what's this still from a SyFy channel Alien ripoff
doing in the new Alien movie trailer?


Because THAT DESIGN is laughable, fam.
Title: Re: Alien: Covenant TV Spots
Post by: Protozoid on Apr 03, 2017, 02:11:13 AM
Quote from: Anthony on Apr 03, 2017, 01:54:30 AM
Spoiler
Also, what is Rosenthal doing to her arm in the "Hide" spot?
[close]
Spoiler
Looks like she's tending to a nasty bite or some other wound, but the image is pretty dark on my screen.
[close]
Title: Re: Alien: Covenant TV Spots
Post by: salomonj on Apr 03, 2017, 02:14:27 AM
Was not expecting this nice surprise! But damn, I'm really digging these tv spots! The Neomorph mouth is super cool and that Xeno in the end was awesome.
Title: Re: Alien: Covenant TV Spots
Post by: Protozoid on Apr 03, 2017, 02:15:55 AM
Quote from: skhellter on Apr 03, 2017, 02:07:30 AM
(https://i.gyazo.com/5a77e5b5de783878f1e05550e3cbf7f1.png)


Yo, what's this still from a SyFy channel Alien ripoff
doing in the new Alien movie trailer?


Because THAT DESIGN is laughable, fam.
The concept art was creepy, but in motion the newborn alien just isn't working for me. Luckily the adult neomorph monster is pretty impressive.
Title: Re: Alien: Covenant TV Spots
Post by: whiterabbit on Apr 03, 2017, 02:16:48 AM
God's in his heaven and all is right with the world!  :-*

Oh and I think the arm thing is from the neomorph. Supposedly they can shoot out those spikes from their back.
Title: Re: Alien: Covenant TV Spots
Post by: salomonj on Apr 03, 2017, 02:20:11 AM
Quote from: Protozoid on Apr 03, 2017, 02:15:55 AM
Quote from: skhellter on Apr 03, 2017, 02:07:30 AM
(https://i.gyazo.com/5a77e5b5de783878f1e05550e3cbf7f1.png)


Yo, what's this still from a SyFy channel Alien ripoff
doing in the new Alien movie trailer?


Because THAT DESIGN is laughable, fam.
The concept art was creepy, but in motion the newborn alien just isn't working for me. Luckily the adult neomorph monster is pretty impressive.
Is that shot of a baby Neomorph?
Title: Re: Alien: Covenant TV Spots
Post by: skhellter on Apr 03, 2017, 02:20:34 AM
yeah, sadly.
Title: Re: Alien: Covenant TV Spots
Post by: salomonj on Apr 03, 2017, 02:27:13 AM
When will we find out the official MPAA and runtime?
Title: Re: Alien: Covenant TV Spots
Post by: whiterabbit on Apr 03, 2017, 02:28:02 AM
I'm digging the neomorph design. Simple, organic, Deacon styled beast. For all of those that wanted the Engineers script over what we got in Prometheus... is it everything you hoped for? :P
Title: Re: Alien: Covenant TV Spots
Post by: Molecules on Apr 03, 2017, 02:56:57 AM
It's way more terrifying before it opens its mouth imo...

(https://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FkCcX4yt.png&hash=c05d39db6c2beaec53acaf444a4dc037b4daef74)

The climax of the 'Pray' trailer with that shot/reverse shot of Daniels and the xeno has them both in interesting environments. Daniels has debris floating around her and the xeno appears to be rising out of some kind of sand?
Title: Re: Alien: Covenant TV Spots
Post by: Anthony on Apr 03, 2017, 03:01:42 AM
Quote from: salomonj on Apr 03, 2017, 02:27:13 AM
When will we find out the official MPAA and runtime?

Should be sometime before the premiere. If they're releasing TV spots then it should be about done now.
Title: Re: Alien: Covenant TV Spots
Post by: SpeedyMaxx on Apr 03, 2017, 03:02:02 AM
The shot of Daniels and the alien is mostly likely from
Spoiler
the zero-g climax we've heard about, onboard Covenant in space.
[close]

The adult neomorph looks like bad CGI from the Silent Hill movie or one of its many ripoffs.
Title: Re: Alien: Covenant TV Spots
Post by: Denton Smalls on Apr 03, 2017, 03:10:07 AM
What's wrong with it?
Title: Re: Alien: Covenant TV Spots
Post by: Molecules on Apr 03, 2017, 03:12:44 AM
The shot of the head chamber also seems to support what people have been putting forward, about these guys being another Engineer-seeded race - a sister race to homo sapiens.

(https://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FMArqTJ2.png&hash=bbf715d62ecff72884615ba1277c81b4955e0981)

Quote from: SpeedyMaxx on Apr 03, 2017, 03:02:02 AM
The shot of Daniels and the alien is mostly likely from
Spoiler
the zero-g climax we've heard about, onboard Covenant in space.
[close]

The adult neomorph looks like bad CGI from the Silent Hill movie or one of its many ripoffs.

Yup. It's literally a few frames of animation though, it's early for me to judge.
Title: Re: Alien: Covenant TV Spots
Post by: newagescamartist on Apr 03, 2017, 03:14:05 AM
Probably one of the best shots of the xenomorph ever. The neomorph animation looks a bit too cartoonish. It could use some work. Hopefully that is a shot that is still being worked on.
Title: Re: Alien: Covenant TV Spots
Post by: whiterabbit on Apr 03, 2017, 03:14:24 AM
Quote from: Molecules on Apr 03, 2017, 03:12:44 AM
The shot of the head chamber also seems to support what people have been putting forward, about these guys being another Engineer-seeded race - a sister race to homo sapiens.

(https://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FMArqTJ2.png&hash=bbf715d62ecff72884615ba1277c81b4955e0981)

heh, Mount Rushmore anybody?
Title: Re: Alien: Covenant TV Spots
Post by: hfeldhaus on Apr 03, 2017, 03:18:09 AM
Quote from: whiterabbit on Apr 03, 2017, 03:14:24 AM
Quote from: Molecules on Apr 03, 2017, 03:12:44 AM
The shot of the head chamber also seems to support what people have been putting forward, about these guys being another Engineer-seeded race - a sister race to homo sapiens.

(https://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FMArqTJ2.png&hash=bbf715d62ecff72884615ba1277c81b4955e0981)
heh, Mount Rushmore anybody?

And people are saying this isn't close enough to Prometheus. The first trailer posted looks like a direct Prometheus sequel. Loved them all. Need to see the neomorph properly before judgement, glad to the skull eyes though.

The tag lines made me think of Eat, Pray, Love. I was made to go see that film and I even had to pay.
Title: Re: Alien: Covenant TV Spots
Post by: SpeedyMaxx on Apr 03, 2017, 03:21:40 AM
Quote from: Molecules on Apr 03, 2017, 03:12:44 AM
The shot of the head chamber also seems to support what people have been putting forward, about these guys being another Engineer-seeded race - a sister race to homo sapiens.

Why, because the heads have slightly different faces? They're different heads, that's all. The only people claiming these guys are not Engineers but some sister race to humans are on here. The only people claiming they're not Engineers are a handful of people from last week's Cinemacon.

Quote from: Denton Smalls on Apr 03, 2017, 03:10:07 AM
What's wrong with it?

Bad CGI. Plus, that exact creature doing that exact thing has popped up in a dozen horror movies since the Silent Hill games became popularized.

The protomorph does look excellent.
Title: Re: Alien: Covenant TV Spots
Post by: rabidranger on Apr 03, 2017, 03:28:50 AM
Quote from: SpeedyMaxx on Apr 03, 2017, 03:21:40 AM
Quote from: Molecules on Apr 03, 2017, 03:12:44 AM
The shot of the head chamber also seems to support what people have been putting forward, about these guys being another Engineer-seeded race - a sister race to homo sapiens.

Why, because the heads have slightly different faces? They're different heads, that's all. The only people claiming these guys are not Engineers but some sister race to humans are on here. The only people claiming they're not Engineers are a handful of people from last week's Cinemacon.

Quote from: Denton Smalls on Apr 03, 2017, 03:10:07 AM
What's wrong with it?

Bad CGI. Plus, that exact creature doing that exact thing has popped up in a dozen horror movies since the Silent Hill games became popularized.

The protomorph does look excellent.

So, who is the definitive source that these are for sure Engineers and this is for sure their "home world"?
Title: Re: Alien: Covenant TV Spots
Post by: Molecules on Apr 03, 2017, 03:30:32 AM
Quote from: SpeedyMaxx on Apr 03, 2017, 03:21:40 AM
Why, because the heads have slightly different faces? They're different heads, that's all. The only people claiming these guys are not Engineers but some sister race to humans are on here. The only people claiming they're not Engineers are a handful of people from last week's Cinemacon.

I defer to you on this.
But the observations about the diminutive size of the charred bodies rang true, and all the visual info we have so far on this civilisation suggesting it's not advanced, all the parchment and low-tech in David's lair, etc.

Here's my go at a gif. If anyone knows how to do these in HD and embed them...
http://imgur.com/z2WcWCH


Quote from: whiterabbit on Apr 03, 2017, 03:14:24 AM
(https://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FMArqTJ2.png&hash=bbf715d62ecff72884615ba1277c81b4955e0981)

heh, Mount Rushmore anybody?

Yeah... Just compare the scale with this (torch-bearing human figures in each shot)

(https://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fcdn.bloody-disgusting.com%2Fwp-content%2Fuploads%2F2016%2F04%2FScreen-Shot-2016-04-13-at-8.15.01-AM.jpg&hash=8c1ec00dd096fc69c36fa2d548f1d4346bb7b75f)
(https://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FMArqTJ2.png&hash=bbf715d62ecff72884615ba1277c81b4955e0981)
Title: Re: Alien: Covenant TV Spots
Post by: Immortan Jonesy on Apr 03, 2017, 03:44:00 AM
Quote from: whiterabbit on Apr 03, 2017, 03:14:24 AM
Quote from: Molecules on Apr 03, 2017, 03:12:44 AM
The shot of the head chamber also seems to support what people have been putting forward, about these guys being another Engineer-seeded race - a sister race to homo sapiens.

(https://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FMArqTJ2.png&hash=bbf715d62ecff72884615ba1277c81b4955e0981)

heh, Mount Rushmore anybody?

Looks like a religious place where these humanoids worshiped their gods (Maybe the Engineers)
Title: Re: Alien: Covenant TV Spots
Post by: Molecules on Apr 03, 2017, 04:02:36 AM
Hard to get a good still off youtube with all the particle fx sliding down him...

(https://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FYARuFOk.png&hash=b965bdd6e4dd332b4ee689bce1e46ee3efa0713b)
Title: Re: Alien: Covenant TV Spots
Post by: acidreign on Apr 03, 2017, 04:28:52 AM
And I thought that I couldn't get more excited! Love seeing more glimpses of the Engineers and the temple complex.

Despite the somewhat unfinished-looking quality of the neomorph CGI I like the design. Very reminiscent of the deacon. Also dig the gelatinous, translucent flesh. Super creepy! I wonder if this is the final form--it was mentioned in the set reports that it will evolve throughout the movie.

The Xeno looks fantastic. This is the scariest it has looked in a long time.
Title: Re: Alien: Covenant TV Spots
Post by: fiveways on Apr 03, 2017, 04:44:33 AM
Quote from: SpeedyMaxx on Apr 03, 2017, 03:21:40 AM
Quote from: Molecules on Apr 03, 2017, 03:12:44 AM
The shot of the head chamber also seems to support what people have been putting forward, about these guys being another Engineer-seeded race - a sister race to homo sapiens.

Why, because the heads have slightly different faces? They're different heads, that's all. The only people claiming these guys are not Engineers but some sister race to humans are on here. The only people claiming they're not Engineers are a handful of people from last week's Cinemacon.

Quote from: Denton Smalls on Apr 03, 2017, 03:10:07 AM
What's wrong with it?

Bad CGI. Plus, that exact creature doing that exact thing has popped up in a dozen horror movies since the Silent Hill games became popularized.

The protomorph does look excellent.

I'll believe people who've seen that footage over anyone on here.  I also think it is a good idea to make it a different race from a story telling point of view.

I said elsewhere, I think at one point they were engineers and that got changed.  I think a lot got changed in post as the various leaks seem to indicate.  They creative team have a loose and constantly changing plan, not a firm agenda.  Shit changes all the time in this camp.
Title: Re: Alien: Covenant TV Spots
Post by: SpeedyMaxx on Apr 03, 2017, 05:20:02 AM
IIRC, the synopsis indicates it is the Engineer homeworld as does various other press.

I think people are clinging to the rather flimsy fan theory that it is some random other planet with some heretofore unseen race of aliens never before seen or alluded to in this franchise simply because the idea that David ups and nukes the space jockeys for lulz seems lazy and abrupt. Which it is. But I am 95% sure that is exactly what has happened, just as every leak has borne out and just as the Cinemacon footage bears out.

Also, the bodies are only 'diminutive' when they're half-sunken into the earth.
Title: Re: Alien: Covenant TV Spots
Post by: Lieutenant Mike Harrigan on Apr 03, 2017, 05:21:39 AM
Epicness loving it
Title: Re: Alien: Covenant TV Spots
Post by: fiveways on Apr 03, 2017, 05:51:00 AM
Quote from: SpeedyMaxx on Apr 03, 2017, 05:20:02 AM
IIRC, the synopsis indicates it is the Engineer homeworld as does various other press.

I think people are clinging to the rather flimsy fan theory that it is some random other planet with some heretofore unseen race of aliens never before seen or alluded to in this franchise simply because the idea that David ups and nukes the space jockeys for lulz seems lazy and abrupt. Which it is. But I am 95% sure that is exactly what has happened, just as every leak has borne out and just as the Cinemacon footage bears out.

Also, the bodies are only 'diminutive' when they're half-sunken into the earth.

And a movie has never been changed in post before.

There are also the reports of a version screened without that scene in it. 

I think they are making it up as they go, if they change the race they change the race.  People are giving this production way more credit then it deserves so far.  There is a reason they have done multiple test screens and that is because they are still searching for the story they want to tell in the footage they have. 

Said it elsewhere, i think at some point it was engineers, if it still is when we all go to the theatre remains to be seen.
Title: Re: Alien: Covenant TV Spots
Post by: SpeedyMaxx on Apr 03, 2017, 06:26:35 AM
Quote from: fiveways on Apr 03, 2017, 05:51:00 AM
People are giving this production way more credit then it deserves so far.

I promise you I am not.
Title: Re: Alien: Covenant TV Spots
Post by: Never say no to Panda! on Apr 03, 2017, 06:31:37 AM
Reminds me of Supernatural's Leviathan ^^

http://666kb.com/i/di1p6rrzosvvv7o2q.jpg
Title: Re: Alien: Covenant TV Spots
Post by: Sabres21768 on Apr 03, 2017, 06:50:54 AM
Can someone please make a gif of the grown Neomorph part.
Title: Re: Alien: Covenant TV Spots
Post by: SiL on Apr 03, 2017, 07:10:33 AM
Why would they do a closeup of the Alien's face in CG?  Is there no practical alien in this?
Title: Re: Alien: Covenant TV Spots
Post by: Xenoscream on Apr 03, 2017, 07:12:42 AM
I do wonder if they are "engineers" as we saw them before. I guess it's very possible these guys live in a low tech city, it's thousands of years after the bio-mech engineer lived - perhaps they turned their back on all their technology?

My biggest problem is that planets are huge - it will be interesting if they referred to this in the film, if there is just one city here or hundreds all over the world.

Title: Re: Alien: Covenant TV Spots
Post by: Stolen on Apr 03, 2017, 07:15:28 AM
I am proud of myself. I have not seen anything of these  ;D
Title: Re: Alien: Covenant TV Spots
Post by: Adorianu on Apr 03, 2017, 07:30:59 AM
Why you saying this is xeno? i think this is protomorph,probably creation of xenomorph that we know we will see at the end of the movie.
And i dont think those are his "eyes" under his dome,just lighting.
Title: Re: Alien: Covenant TV Spots
Post by: Corporal Hicks on Apr 03, 2017, 07:34:34 AM
There is no Protomorph. It's just a name coined by Scified for this iteration of the Alien in one of their articles that included the completely false Waltermorph bullshit. It's not a completely different creature. Just a different looking Alien in the same vein as the Runner or the Resurrection Aliens. Just so happens this is likely to be a version that is deliberately missing the biomechanical elements we associate with Giger's Alien.
Title: Re: Alien: Covenant TV Spots
Post by: Never say no to Panda! on Apr 03, 2017, 07:36:24 AM
@ Sabres:

https://im2.ezgif.com/tmp/ezgif-2-adc74d72ab.gif
Title: Re: Alien: Covenant TV Spots
Post by: cliffhanger on Apr 03, 2017, 07:36:41 AM
whoa, that alien looks cool. i'm not really fond of the eyes in the skull but i think i actually like this.

not so sure about that neomorph. i do really dig it when it's mouth is closed. that looks haunting and scary.i like most how it is rather faceless. no eyes, no nose (which i think is one of the scariest looks at all, the xeno theoretically could breath through all the open stuff around its face, but this looks like a human staying alive despite having a bag on its head), and a hidden mouth. no ears. nothing. awesome.

not so much enjoying that the mouth opens so big and it attacks with it. personally i'd prefer seeing it being intelligent above animalistic. like just grabbing its opponent and crushing its head for example, against a wall, with its hands. or lifting it up on the head with its hands, and seeing it open its mouth and a goblinshark-like (deaconlike) mouth pops out, and chopping out it's throat, or lashing out it's heart. or just putting its fingers through the eyes and snapping the neck.

it looks scary as hell though.

and if i judge those sounds just before right, when looking to the face reaction of it's victim....it sounds like it fits right into the book.....oozing mass coming through a pipe. it sounds like exactly that. which would also explain how it would escape the medbay.
Title: Re: Alien: Covenant TV Spots
Post by: SpeedyMaxx on Apr 03, 2017, 07:38:15 AM
I used that word simply because I hate how popularized 'xenomorph' is. To me it's the alien, period. I do think it's a prototypical version of the final creature, which is why we have the 'proto' thing in the mix.

Quote from: cliffhanger on Apr 03, 2017, 07:36:41 AM
and if i judge those sounds just before right, when looking to the face reaction of it's victim....it sounds like it fits right into the book.....oozing mass coming through a pipe. it sounds like exactly that. which would also explain how it would escape the medbay.

Would be lovely but there is no evidence of that happening.
Title: Re: Alien: Covenant TV Spots
Post by: cliffhanger on Apr 03, 2017, 07:45:20 AM
btw, somebody had to do it :D

(https://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FNmzKj1p.jpg&hash=0cb413cbab4827f4a6237c4170604fd4e0ef9309)
Title: Re: Alien: Covenant TV Spots
Post by: Adorianu on Apr 03, 2017, 07:46:42 AM
Quote from: Corporal Hicks on Apr 03, 2017, 07:34:34 AM
There is no Protomorph. It's just a name coined by Scified for this iteration of the Alien in one of their articles that included the completely false Waltermorph bullshit. It's not a completely different creature. Just a different looking Alien in the same vein as the Runner or the Resurrection Aliens. Just so happens this is likely to be a version that is deliberately missing the biomechanical elements we associate with Giger's Alien.

So there  are no neomorphs? :D
Title: Re: Alien: Covenant TV Spots
Post by: Russ840 on Apr 03, 2017, 07:50:36 AM
Quote from: SiL on Apr 03, 2017, 07:10:33 AM
Why would they do a closeup of the Alien's face in CG?  Is there no practical alien in this?

I don't think that is CG on the alien. I think it is practical.
Title: Re: Alien: Covenant TV Spots
Post by: Corporal Hicks on Apr 03, 2017, 07:52:11 AM
Quote from: Adorianu on Apr 03, 2017, 07:46:42 AM
So there  are no neomorphs? :D

There are Neomorphs and Aliens. Completely different designs and creatures. The Alien is simply the Alien, lacking it's biomechanical elements because it seems like the prequels are leading towards introducing that into the design.

They were not, as far as I know, intended to be a completely different creature. The 4chan post that all this Waltermorph and Protomorph stuff was sourced from was complete rubbish.

Neomorphs we know are a completely different creature who function in a similar way to the Aliens but are quite specifically different.

I know that the Neomorph term was used behind the scenes. I'm also aware that the Aliens in this were referred to as simply Aliens.
Title: Re: Alien: Covenant TV Spots
Post by: Adorianu on Apr 03, 2017, 07:54:15 AM
Quote from: Corporal Hicks on Apr 03, 2017, 07:52:11 AM
Quote from: Adorianu on Apr 03, 2017, 07:46:42 AM
So there  are no neomorphs? :D

There are Neomorphs and Aliens. Completely different designs and creatures. The Alien is simply the Alien, lacking it's biomechanical elements because it seems like the prequels are leading towards introducing that into the design.

They were not, as far as I know, intended to be a completely different creature. The 4chan post that all this Waltermorph and Protomorph stuff was sourced from was complete rubbish.

Neomorphs we know are a completely different creature who function in a similar way to the Aliens but are quite specifically different.

I know that the Neomorph term was used behind the scenes. I'm also aware that the Aliens in this were referred to as simply Aliens.



Rumors were saying that there will be two neomorphs and one protomorph,and we see that this is the truth,we saw neomorph and alien dont have biomechanical elements so yeah it IS PROTO version of Xenomorph.
Title: Re: Alien: Covenant TV Spots
Post by: cliffhanger on Apr 03, 2017, 07:56:30 AM
am i not  mistaken that i remember a comment, not sure if it was ridley himself or not, that there was another species too? its probably those humans that got fried, but could there be another alien? or is that aboat the deacon which might also pop up?


remember a rumor about a gigantic alien. i think that was mentioned by the actors stating they had fun running from these giant aliens. i dont think the neomorph or xenomorph qualifies as giant. big, sure. giant? no. so there's probably another one we haven't seen yet. which could turn out to be the space jockey?
Title: Re: Alien: Covenant TV Spots
Post by: Adorianu on Apr 03, 2017, 07:59:39 AM
Quote from: cliffhanger on Apr 03, 2017, 07:45:20 AM
btw, somebody had to do it :D

(https://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FNmzKj1p.jpg&hash=0cb413cbab4827f4a6237c4170604fd4e0ef9309)

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Title: Re: Alien: Covenant TV Spots
Post by: Semaka on Apr 03, 2017, 08:01:11 AM
Love the 3 trailers. I think the scene with the protomorph is the shower scene, because it looks to me that that is water that pours over it, and it looks like it has some blood on its mouth (I think it will have even more blood in the movie). That one scene with the neomorph, looks ok to me, because in the scenes where it attacks the humans, it looks good and brutal. They are still hiding the inner-jaw for the proto, so I wonder what is the design for it that it is kept out of all the trailers in which the proto appears?

Quote from: Adorianu on Apr 03, 2017, 07:30:59 AM
Why you saying this is xeno? i think this is protomorph,probably creation of xenomorph that we know we will see at the end of the movie.
And i dont think those are his "eyes" under his dome,just lighting.

No, it has eye sockets, you can see them when the alien jumps in that corridor scene, if you pause it, you can see it has 2 eye sockets and a hole where the nose is.
Title: Re: Alien: Covenant TV Spots
Post by: Corporal Hicks on Apr 03, 2017, 08:01:50 AM
Quote from: Adorianu on Apr 03, 2017, 07:54:15 AM
Rumors were saying that there will be two neomorphs and one protomorph,and we see that this is the truth,we saw neomorph and alien dont have biomechanical elements so yeah it IS PROTO version of Xenomorph.

If I remember from my own verified and none 4chan sources, it's actually

Spoiler
2 of each.
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I will double check though.

It's simply the Alien. It just looks different to Giger's Alien because the biomechanical design hasn't been introduced to it yet. I imagine we'll get a better understanding of the design mentality when the film comes out and the designers talk more about it.

It seems more like to me that it's just intended to be in the same vein as how the Runner looks different because it had canine (or bovine) aspects integrated into its design or how the Resurrection Aliens were corrupted with the genetic mixing. They don't have many biomechanical elements. Are they completely different?

I know I'm just being pedantic to a degree about the nickname (and out of annoyance that Scified spread that Waltermorph bullshit article around so successfully) but I just wanna be clear that as far as I'm aware it was simply referred to as the Alien behind the scenes. It's clearly intended to be some sort of in-between design but it's doesn't sound like it was intended to be a completely different creature.
Title: Re: Alien: Covenant TV Spots
Post by: Adorianu on Apr 03, 2017, 08:13:46 AM
Quoteit's doesn't sound like it was intended to be a completely different creature.

But i didnt said that this is completely different creature,i just said that this is not yet our Xenormorph,its a proto version of him and the "real" one we will probably see at the end of the movie,or in the next movies.But yeah it was nitpicking from my side,you can call it Xenomorph if you like.For me its protomorph :)
Title: Re: Alien: Covenant TV Spots
Post by: cliffhanger on Apr 03, 2017, 08:15:03 AM
Quote from: Adorianu on Apr 03, 2017, 07:59:39 AM
Quote from: cliffhanger on Apr 03, 2017, 07:45:20 AM
btw, somebody had to do it :D

(https://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FNmzKj1p.jpg&hash=0cb413cbab4827f4a6237c4170604fd4e0ef9309)

(https://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FaQuuiAS.png&hash=4a93c5fbf3a1d1396f4a62f41018a5bcc2a720bf)

:D :D :D :D bwahahaha #dead
Title: Re: Alien: Covenant TV Spots
Post by: Ingwar on Apr 03, 2017, 08:15:40 AM
Regarding Tess Haubrich and Neomorph.

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Tess Haubrich is not killed by Neomorph as we can see it. It is just the way spot is edited. I guess she's gonna be killed by Xenomorph in the citadel. You can hear its sound. The head scene with grow Neomorph occurs in the forest. He might be the mouthburster.
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Title: Re: Alien: Covenant TV Spots
Post by: Corporal Hicks on Apr 03, 2017, 08:16:45 AM
Quote from: Adorianu on Apr 03, 2017, 08:13:46 AM
But i didnt said that this is completely different creature,i just said that this is not yet our Xenormorph,its a proto version of him and the "real" one we will probably see at the end of the movie,or in the next movies.

Like I mentioned, I'm probably just being pedantic out of annoyance that all that misinformation contained in the "protomorph" article got spread around so much. I cringe every time I see that name used. Sorry.
Title: Re: Alien: Covenant TV Spots
Post by: cliffhanger on Apr 03, 2017, 08:18:56 AM
all the more reason to start using it more then :D
Title: Re: Alien: Covenant TV Spots
Post by: Ingwar on Apr 03, 2017, 08:22:46 AM
Quote from: Corporal Hicks on Apr 03, 2017, 08:16:45 AM
Quote from: Adorianu on Apr 03, 2017, 08:13:46 AM
But i didnt said that this is completely different creature,i just said that this is not yet our Xenormorph,its a proto version of him and the "real" one we will probably see at the end of the movie,or in the next movies.

Like I mentioned, I'm probably just being pedantic out of annoyance that all that misinformation contained in the "protomorph" article got spread around so much. I cringe every time I see that name used. Sorry.

Then how would you call it? It's not Xenomorph as we know it. Looks alike but it's not the same. It's not bio-mechanoid. Just pure bio. Protomorph is just an informal name so we can differ one of each other :)
Title: Re: Alien: Covenant TV Spots
Post by: Corporal Hicks on Apr 03, 2017, 08:29:53 AM
Quote from: Ingwar on Apr 03, 2017, 08:22:46 AM
Then how would you call it? It's not Xenomorph as we know it. Looks alike but it's not the same. It's not bio-mechanoid. Just pure bio. Protomorph is just an informal name so we can differ one of each other :)

I know, Ingwar. Like I said - just annoyance at where the name from and all the misinformation contained in there (that it was a "primordial version of the Alien", for example.) I acknowledge it's just me being petty.

I call 'em Stanley.  ;) http://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/index.php?topic=54862.msg2125833#msg2125833
Title: Re: Alien: Covenant TV Spots
Post by: Adorianu on Apr 03, 2017, 08:36:23 AM

QuoteLike I mentioned, I'm probably just being pedantic out of annoyance that all that misinformation contained in the "protomorph" article got spread around so much. I cringe every time I see that name used. Sorry.

Well im using this name because it was mentioned in same article that said about neomorphs,and later we saw that yeah,there are creatures that were called by this article neomorphs,and also there is alien who not fully looks like classic Xenomorph so hmm what  could it be? article was right with neomorphs so this must be a protomorph.I dont heard anything about this Waltermorph though.
Title: Re: Alien: Covenant TV Spots
Post by: zoidy on Apr 03, 2017, 08:46:48 AM
Just on the alien rising (in water?), I suspect it's just the editing that has it appearing to be in the same scene as Daniels in the suit, that water is being affected by gravity, she's clearly not in gravity :-)

But on the alien itself - excellent. And I bet you that's a completely practical alien head. The set visit articles made clear the amount of effort that has gone in to practical effects, supplemented of course with CGI. THAT looks practical to me, and is exactly the shot they would use it for.
Title: Re: Alien: Covenant TV Spots
Post by: Adorianu on Apr 03, 2017, 08:48:33 AM
QuoteNo, it has eye sockets, you can see them when the alien jumps in that corridor scene, if you pause it, you can see it has 2 eye sockets and a hole where the nose is

Well we saw in the trailer this alien in the day light,and i dont see any nose hole or human eye sockets.

(https://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2Frlqs65b.jpg&hash=41283b47e04e2fc54a880e2de5bc07532b789e08)

Dont think those are eye pockets from skull they  are too far,too small.
Title: Re: Alien: Covenant TV Spots
Post by: Corporal Hicks on Apr 03, 2017, 08:56:07 AM
Quote from: Adorianu on Apr 03, 2017, 08:36:23 AM
Well im using this name because it was mentioned in same article that said about neomorphs,and later we saw that yeah,there are creatures that were called by this article neomorphs,and also there is alien who not fully looks like classic Xenomorph so hmm what  could it be? article was right with neomorphs so this must be a protomorph.I dont heard anything about this Waltermorph though.

Actually we were the ones to reveal the Neomorphs to the world (which is mentioned in the Protomorph article anyway)  :)

http://www.avpgalaxy.net/2016/10/24/neomorphs-alien-covenants-new-aliens/ - 24th of October.

http://www.alien-covenant.com/news/exclusive-new-details-alien-covenants-3-primary-monsters-spoilers - 18th December.
Title: Re: Alien: Covenant TV Spots
Post by: Adorianu on Apr 03, 2017, 08:59:20 AM
Quote from: Corporal Hicks on Apr 03, 2017, 08:56:07 AM
Quote from: Adorianu on Apr 03, 2017, 08:36:23 AM
Well im using this name because it was mentioned in same article that said about neomorphs,and later we saw that yeah,there are creatures that were called by this article neomorphs,and also there is alien who not fully looks like classic Xenomorph so hmm what  could it be? article was right with neomorphs so this must be a protomorph.I dont heard anything about this Waltermorph though.

Actually we were the ones to reveal the Neomorphs to the world (which is mentioned in the Protomorph article anyway)  :)

http://www.avpgalaxy.net/2016/10/24/neomorphs-alien-covenants-new-aliens/ - 24th of October.

http://www.alien-covenant.com/news/exclusive-new-details-alien-covenants-3-primary-monsters-spoilers - 18th December.


And you are the ones that brought Protomorph name.Because i remember reading this in your news.
Title: Re: Alien: Covenant TV Spots
Post by: Corporal Hicks on Apr 03, 2017, 09:00:35 AM
I've never mentioned the Protomorph. That was all Scified. I've never mentioned it out of disdain for that article. I've referred to Jon Spaihts' Alien template creatures as proto-Aliens (they were a completely separate creature) in various articles but never called Covenant's Aliens protomorphs.
Title: Re: Alien: Covenant TV Spots
Post by: zoidy on Apr 03, 2017, 09:04:21 AM
You can see the eye sockets in the new (I say practical) alien in the tv spot, and if you go back to the trailer with the alien hanging underneath the dropship at the end of the last trailer, the front area of the carapace is translucent and the light is coming through it, with the rest of the head dark because the head fills the carapace - ie the eye sockets/nose are there, as the original Big Chap.
Title: Re: Alien: Covenant TV Spots
Post by: Russ840 on Apr 03, 2017, 09:06:55 AM
Quote from: Adorianu on Apr 03, 2017, 08:48:33 AM
QuoteNo, it has eye sockets, you can see them when the alien jumps in that corridor scene, if you pause it, you can see it has 2 eye sockets and a hole where the nose is

Well we saw in the trailer this alien in the day light,and i dont see any nose hole or human eye sockets.

http://i.imgur.com/rlqs65b.jpg

Dont think those are eye pockets from skull they  are too far,too small.

There are eye sockets. They cannot be seen in all lighting. Go and look at the screen caps for the second trailer. The images of the Alien pouncing down the red lit corridor show the humanoid eye and nose sockets under the carapace.
Title: Re: Alien: Covenant TV Spots
Post by: zoidy on Apr 03, 2017, 09:08:19 AM
Just watch the Pray spot again - the carapace is translucent, and the eye sockets are exactly where they should be


(and the nose socket, now I watch it again)
Title: Re: Alien: Covenant TV Spots
Post by: juxtapose on Apr 03, 2017, 09:32:16 AM
It's always been my understanding that the neomorph is an early version of the xenomorph. .most likely thrue experimentation, and the so called protomorph is somewhere inbetween. .?. .and it will either evolve into the xeno. .or be upgraded via more experiments. .guess i will have to wait for the movie to know for certain. .
Title: Re: Alien: Covenant TV Spots
Post by: Adorianu on Apr 03, 2017, 09:32:37 AM

Quote
There are eye sockets. They cannot be seen in all lighting. Go and look at the screen caps for the second trailer. The images of the Alien pouncing down the red lit corridor show the humanoid eye and nose sockets under the carapace.

They are not,i gave you clear picture in the daylight,this is not how eye sockets look like,and there is no nose hole,in the tv spot its just a lighting,you see what you want to see,just like people see alien faces in rocks on Mars xd.


Neomorphs are those creatures from plants,from spores.
Title: Re: Alien: Covenant TV Spots
Post by: juxtapose on Apr 03, 2017, 09:42:30 AM
i know the neo.s come from spores. .but they are i think also an early version of the proto and eventually the xeno. .well thats my guess. .i could be wrong.
Title: Re: Alien: Covenant TV Spots
Post by: Adorianu on Apr 03, 2017, 09:47:59 AM
I think that this black goo have this effect,that all creatures have some "xeno" like look.
Title: Re: Alien: Covenant TV Spots
Post by: Corporal Hicks on Apr 03, 2017, 09:49:21 AM
I'm hoping they actually have a roadmap planned out for the accelerant now. I think it's pretty clear it resorts in Alien-like stuff being made. I'm fond of the theory that it's some sort of genetic blueprint for creating the Aliens.
Title: Re: Alien: Covenant TV Spots
Post by: Russ840 on Apr 03, 2017, 09:55:04 AM
Quote from: Adorianu on Apr 03, 2017, 09:32:37 AM

Quote
There are eye sockets. They cannot be seen in all lighting. Go and look at the screen caps for the second trailer. The images of the Alien pouncing down the red lit corridor show the humanoid eye and nose sockets under the carapace.

They are not,i gave you clear picture in the daylight,this is not how eye sockets look like,and there is no nose hole,in the tv spot its just a lighting,you see what you want to see,just like people see alien faces in rocks on Mars xd.


Neomorphs are those creatures from plants,from spores.

Why are you being cantankerous?  I said that they can be seen under certain lighting. The eye sockets are there. Maybe not in the pic you use as an example. That is because of the lighting. In the pic the light looks to be coming from the front so it's reflecting, hence the shine.  They are part of the creatures design for this movie. Same as they were for the first movie. Like I said. Look at the screen caps I said about and you will see!
Title: Re: Alien: Covenant TV Spots
Post by: Daz1999 on Apr 03, 2017, 09:56:21 AM
I made the mistake of watching all of these spots for Prometheus and ended up seeing most of the movie, so I won't be watching these, good to read your comments though :)
Title: Re: Alien: Covenant TV Spots
Post by: Pvt. Himmel on Apr 03, 2017, 10:04:17 AM
IT HAS BEGUN.....SHOW THEM THE WAY TO OBLIVION!! :D
Title: Re: Alien: Covenant TV Spots
Post by: zoidy on Apr 03, 2017, 10:20:41 AM
Quote from: Adorianu on Apr 03, 2017, 09:32:37 AM

Quote
There are eye sockets. They cannot be seen in all lighting. Go and look at the screen caps for the second trailer. The images of the Alien pouncing down the red lit corridor show the humanoid eye and nose sockets under the carapace.

They are not,i gave you clear picture in the daylight,this is not how eye sockets look like,and there is no nose hole,in the tv spot its just a lighting,you see what you want to see,just like people see alien faces in rocks on Mars xd.


Neomorphs are those creatures from plants,from spores.

You can see them in this sequence, but it's more obvious in the video, as the shadow in the left (his right) eye socket is clearly there under the carapace. ie as the alien rises, the eye socket remains in the same place inside the head, it doesnt change because of lighting.

Spoiler
(https://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.scified.com%2Farticles%2Ftwo-new-alien-covenant-tv-spots-released-new-alien-footage-23.jpg&hash=2a04cb8572b98b6373005a5925e86e447b9237d1)
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Title: Re: Alien: Covenant TV Spots
Post by: locusta on Apr 03, 2017, 10:28:42 AM
Yep, for all the skull lovers! :D
Title: Re: Alien: Covenant TV Spots
Post by: Pvt. Himmel on Apr 03, 2017, 10:32:12 AM
Ah i spot Piranha teeth!!!

(https://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.alien-covenant.com%2Faliencovenant_uploads%2FIMG_25551.JPG&hash=bf3af71cee02fdd038cb4bda5793690c7c0bd076)

Title: Re: Alien: Covenant TV Spots
Post by: Semaka on Apr 03, 2017, 10:33:06 AM
Here it is man, the eye sockets and the nose piramid:

Title: Re: Alien: Covenant TV Spots
Post by: Pvt. Himmel on Apr 03, 2017, 10:35:17 AM
Quote from: locusta on Apr 03, 2017, 10:28:42 AM
Yep, for all the skull lovers! :D

Local Trouble ain't going to like that.
Title: Re: Alien: Covenant TV Spots
Post by: Master on Apr 03, 2017, 10:40:39 AM
Yet I do love that!
Title: Re: Alien: Covenant TV Spots
Post by: Pvt. Himmel on Apr 03, 2017, 10:43:36 AM
Quote from: Adorianu on Apr 03, 2017, 08:59:20 AM
Quote from: Corporal Hicks on Apr 03, 2017, 08:56:07 AM
Quote from: Adorianu on Apr 03, 2017, 08:36:23 AM
Well im using this name because it was mentioned in same article that said about neomorphs,and later we saw that yeah,there are creatures that were called by this article neomorphs,and also there is alien who not fully looks like classic Xenomorph so hmm what  could it be? article was right with neomorphs so this must be a protomorph.I dont heard anything about this Waltermorph though.

Actually we were the ones to reveal the Neomorphs to the world (which is mentioned in the Protomorph article anyway)  :)

http://www.avpgalaxy.net/2016/10/24/neomorphs-alien-covenants-new-aliens/ - 24th of October.

http://www.alien-covenant.com/news/exclusive-new-details-alien-covenants-3-primary-monsters-spoilers - 18th December.


And you are the ones that brought Protomorph name.Because i remember reading this in your news.

Scified is frowned upon here :P :laugh:
Title: Re: Alien: Covenant TV Spots
Post by: Evanus on Apr 03, 2017, 10:59:10 AM
Holy shit! I'm really late to the party it seems, but I'm gonna watch them now!  ;D
Title: Re: Alien: Covenant TV Spots
Post by: Adorianu on Apr 03, 2017, 11:01:04 AM
Quote from: Russ840 on Apr 03, 2017, 09:55:04 AM
Quote from: Adorianu on Apr 03, 2017, 09:32:37 AM

Quote
There are eye sockets. They cannot be seen in all lighting. Go and look at the screen caps for the second trailer. The images of the Alien pouncing down the red lit corridor show the humanoid eye and nose sockets under the carapace.

They are not,i gave you clear picture in the daylight,this is not how eye sockets look like,and there is no nose hole,in the tv spot its just a lighting,you see what you want to see,just like people see alien faces in rocks on Mars xd.


Neomorphs are those creatures from plants,from spores.

Why are you being cantankerous?  I said that they can be seen under certain lighting. The eye sockets are there. Maybe not in the pic you use as an example. That is because of the lighting. In the pic the light looks to be coming from the front so it's reflecting, hence the shine.  They are part of the creatures design for this movie. Same as they were for the first movie. Like I said. Look at the screen caps I said about and you will see!

Those are wierd looking shadows then,weird anatomy.Not like in first Alien when it was normal human skull,this here with those shadows looks like very cartoonish skull.
Title: Re: Alien: Covenant TV Spots
Post by: Russ840 on Apr 03, 2017, 11:02:05 AM
Lol ok mate.
Title: Re: Alien: Covenant TV Spots
Post by: Adorianu on Apr 03, 2017, 11:03:38 AM
Quote from: Semaka on Apr 03, 2017, 10:33:06 AM
Here it is man, the eye sockets and the nose piramid:

This is dark as f**k ;P
Title: Re: Alien: Covenant TV Spots
Post by: Pvt. Himmel on Apr 03, 2017, 11:05:17 AM
Quote from: Adorianu on Apr 03, 2017, 11:03:38 AM
Quote from: Semaka on Apr 03, 2017, 10:33:06 AM
Here it is man, the eye sockets and the nose piramid:

This is dark as f**k ;P

Well it's space it's supposed to be dark, and full of stars. :P
Title: Re: Alien: Covenant TV Spots
Post by: Adorianu on Apr 03, 2017, 11:08:01 AM
I marked those shadows,this looks very weird,those holes are too big and have bad shapes.

(https://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FZSrkEXE.jpg&hash=dad979dbbeac10c4608de4a778cacf25295de874)




Quote from: Pvt. Himmel on Apr 03, 2017, 11:05:17 AM
Quote from: Adorianu on Apr 03, 2017, 11:03:38 AM
Quote from: Semaka on Apr 03, 2017, 10:33:06 AM
Here it is man, the eye sockets and the nose piramid:

This is dark as f**k ;P

Well it's space it's supposed to be dark, and full of stars. :P

Really? im saying its hard to see those skull shapes because its dark as f**k.
Title: Re: Alien: Covenant TV Spots
Post by: Evanus on Apr 03, 2017, 11:17:39 AM
Looks good but I'm not sure about the Neomorph. Looks a bit silly in my opinion.
Title: Re: Alien: Covenant TV Spots
Post by: reecebomb on Apr 03, 2017, 11:22:01 AM
The more footage is shown, the more it looks and feels like a really bad Alien rip off. Some of it does look like a mid level SYFY! And by now, they have showed practically every characters death ::)
Title: Re: Alien: Covenant TV Spots
Post by: Bojo on Apr 03, 2017, 11:30:14 AM
"What happened here ? "

David happened.

Dom.Dom.Dommm.
Title: Re: Alien: Covenant TV Spots
Post by: SiL on Apr 03, 2017, 11:31:45 AM
I'm beginning to think they painted over all the practical creature stuff with CG.

Again.
Title: Re: Alien: Covenant TV Spots
Post by: Russ840 on Apr 03, 2017, 11:34:22 AM
Quote from: SiL on Apr 03, 2017, 11:31:45 AM
I'm beginning to think they painted over all the practical creature stuff with CG.

Again.

I would say that's a fair bet.

I think it works well when done that way though.

Title: Re: Alien: Covenant TV Spots
Post by: SiL on Apr 03, 2017, 11:42:02 AM
It's never worked terribly well. The closest I'd say was T'Chala in Civil War and even that was hitting uncanny valley in a lot of shots.
Title: Re: Alien: Covenant TV Spots
Post by: fernandito on Apr 03, 2017, 11:44:53 AM
Quote from: Evanus on Apr 03, 2017, 11:17:39 AM
Looks good but I'm not sure about the Neomorph. Looks a bit silly in my opinion.
No way. The Neomorph is looking way better than I expected it to be. Now it needs to be big like the standard alien and we'll have a damn nice non-biomech(alternate version of the classic
Title: Re: Alien: Covenant TV Spots
Post by: Bojo on Apr 03, 2017, 11:49:50 AM
I feel the Neomorph does look a tad ridiculous,though.
The reveal was good as the creature looked like it had weight but it's the second shot where the camera pans in and he attacks,with his mouth open,that it looks like something from a cheap sci-fi production.
Title: Re: Alien: Covenant TV Spots
Post by: Adorianu on Apr 03, 2017, 11:55:37 AM
Quote from: Semaka on Apr 03, 2017, 10:33:06 AM
Here it is man, the eye sockets and the nose piramid:

Ok,you are right guys,i did this to the picture:

(https://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FePoyHJR.jpg&hash=de65c7e1c69cf3c340c6b8b88c70496169f1bb8c)

And now i see subtle shape of  eye sockets,but the nose piramid is mostly lighting( reversed V that we see),because its too big.But yeah there is probably nose hole as well under this dome.So i i apologize.



Title: Re: Alien: Covenant TV Spots
Post by: Russ840 on Apr 03, 2017, 11:58:06 AM
Nice job there. Can really make out the creature in this edit.

I love this design.


Quote from: SiL on Apr 03, 2017, 11:42:02 AM
It's never worked terribly well. The closest I'd say was T'Chala in Civil War and even that was hitting uncanny valley in a lot of shots.

Didn't Del Toro use that technique in Hellboy 2 and Pans labyrinth ? 

If so. It worked really well there.

Come to think of it, was the Decon not touched up with CG.
Title: Re: Alien: Covenant TV Spots
Post by: Predaker on Apr 03, 2017, 12:03:46 PM
I've never been keen to the deacon or the neomorph creatures. They're like a bad joke of the Alien.
Title: Re: Alien: Covenant TV Spots
Post by: locusta on Apr 03, 2017, 12:05:15 PM
Quote from: Adorianu on Apr 03, 2017, 11:55:37 AM
Quote from: Semaka on Apr 03, 2017, 10:33:06 AM
Here it is man, the eye sockets and the nose piramid:

Ok,you are right guys,i did this to the picture:

(https://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FePoyHJR.jpg&hash=de65c7e1c69cf3c340c6b8b88c70496169f1bb8c)

And now i see subtle shape of  eye sockets,but the nose piramid is mostly lighting( reversed V that we see),because its too big.But yeah there is probably nose hole as well under this dome.So i i apology.





Great job. And finally we see the attack tongue mouth! :D

Oh, and it seems to have six fingers, or was that already clear?
Title: Re: Alien: Covenant TV Spots
Post by: Bojo on Apr 03, 2017, 12:13:40 PM
See the problem with the Xenomorph nowadays is,because its so embedded in popular culture,that the creature/design looks less frightening and more cool.
That's not a criticism of Scott it's just unfortunately the way it is.
Title: Re: Alien: Covenant TV Spots
Post by: Russ840 on Apr 03, 2017, 12:33:44 PM
I get what your saying Bojo but the trailer that shows it head butting the screen is the scariest I have found the alien since 'Alien'.

It looks formidable and powerful. I would s**t myself if that thing was after me.
Title: Re: Alien: Covenant TV Spots
Post by: RidgeTop on Apr 03, 2017, 12:41:04 PM
Quote from: SiL on Apr 03, 2017, 11:31:45 AM
I'm beginning to think they painted over all the practical creature stuff with CG.

Again.

Ugh... Let's hope not. The thing prequel was largely ruined because of that. I don't know why studio execs think close up CG shots are more convincing.
Title: Re: Alien: Covenant TV Spots
Post by: SiL on Apr 03, 2017, 12:41:52 PM
Quote from: Russ840 on Apr 03, 2017, 11:58:06 AM.


Quote from: SiL on Apr 03, 2017, 11:42:02 AM
It's never worked terribly well. The closest I'd say was T'Chala in Civil War and even that was hitting uncanny valley in a lot of shots.

Didn't Del Toro use that technique in Hellboy 2 and Pans labyrinth ? 

If so. It worked really well there.
They were almost 100% suits. At most there were some slight touches to enhance them, but you're still looking at what was on set.

What I'm talking about is completely replacing the practical effect with cgi, like in The Thing.
Title: Re: Alien: Covenant TV Spots
Post by: Evanus on Apr 03, 2017, 12:45:55 PM
So was this all CGI? Looks like CGI to me but I'm not sure. I really hope they didn't paint over the practical effects with CGI.  :-[
Title: Re: Alien: Covenant TV Spots
Post by: fernandito on Apr 03, 2017, 12:46:34 PM
Quote from: Russ840 on Apr 03, 2017, 12:33:44 PM
I get what your saying Bojo but the trailer that shows it head butting the screen is the scariest I have found the alien since 'Alien'.

It looks formidable and powerful. I would s**t myself if that thing was after me.
agreeded to the last full stop, although if we're talking about scariest, then we shouldn't forget the moment in alien3 when Ripley finds the alien down there, I mean the moment the alien drops down from the ceiling. That was the last true scary moment to the alien series imo

On a side note, the true "issue" I've found in these 3 latest tv spots is that we have been spoiled another member of the crew beinge dispatched,. and not only that, how/which way and by who/what
Title: Re: Alien: Covenant TV Spots
Post by: 426Buddy on Apr 03, 2017, 12:49:14 PM
Looks great, can't wait!

May can't come soon enough!
Title: Re: Alien: Covenant TV Spots
Post by: SrSpinelli on Apr 03, 2017, 12:52:39 PM
I hate how people are calling the Xeno a "Proto-morph", it's not. That's bullshit created by scified.
Neca already confirmed it's the Xenomorph, it's just a different design, jeez
Title: Re: Alien: Covenant TV Spots
Post by: SpeedyMaxx on Apr 03, 2017, 01:01:04 PM
Quote from: cliffhanger on Apr 03, 2017, 07:56:30 AM
i think that was mentioned by the actors stating they had fun running from these giant aliens. i dont think the neomorph or xenomorph qualifies as giant. big, sure. giant? no. so there's probably another one we haven't seen yet. which could turn out to be the space jockey?

Or they were talking about the big alien we've already seen. Anything else is kind of a huge leap.
Title: Re: Alien: Covenant TV Spots
Post by: fernandito on Apr 03, 2017, 01:02:54 PM
Quote from: SrSpinelli on Apr 03, 2017, 12:52:39 PM
I hate how people are calling the Xeno a "Proto-morph", it's not. That's bullshit created by scified.
Neca already confirmed it's the Xenomorph, it's just a different design, jeez
Didn't Ridley himself confirm this is not the classic alìen yet, and that the lack of the biomechanical features in this one is there for a reason (for the next film basically)?

Quote from: SpeedyMaxx on Apr 03, 2017, 01:01:04 PM
i think that was mentioned by the actors stating they had fun running from these giant aliens. i dont think the neomorph or xenomorph qualifies as giant. big, sure. giant? no
the classic alien and the warrior variants were 3 meters tall, like the engineer in Prometheus basically. If that ain't giant for ya..

The adul deacon and Neomorph should be just as big as the classic alien. eight to nine foot+
Title: Re: Alien: Covenant TV Spots
Post by: Russ840 on Apr 03, 2017, 01:04:50 PM
Quote from: SiL on Apr 03, 2017, 12:41:52 PM
Quote from: Russ840 on Apr 03, 2017, 11:58:06 AM.


Quote from: SiL on Apr 03, 2017, 11:42:02 AM
It's never worked terribly well. The closest I'd say was T'Chala in Civil War and even that was hitting uncanny valley in a lot of shots.

Didn't Del Toro use that technique in Hellboy 2 and Pans labyrinth ? 

If so. It worked really well there.
They were almost 100% suits. At most there were some slight touches to enhance them, but you're still looking at what was on set.

What I'm talking about is completely replacing the practical effect with cgi, like in The Thing.
.

Oh I see what you mean. Yeah. The thing looked bad. I hope that is not the case here. They should do like the films I mention. That, to me, is really effective as I am sure you will agree. Replacing on the other hand. Why bother with all that hard work making the physical product and then washing over with over the top CG.

I hope that does not happen here. I don't overly get that impression from the trailers

Title: Re: Alien: Covenant TV Spots
Post by: SiL on Apr 03, 2017, 01:08:55 PM
I agree that suits with enhancements is typically the best option. The fact every shot of the Alien so far has been CG, even in simple closeups, just really doesn't bode well. Even the test screenings said it was mostly CGI, which makes me think the practical stuff has been painted over completely.
Title: Re: Alien: Covenant TV Spots
Post by: Stolen on Apr 03, 2017, 01:11:40 PM
I didn't resist guys!
This looks amazing.
Cinematography is wonderful, monster really creepy, dark world, scale is like Prometheus!
Title: Re: Alien: Covenant TV Spots
Post by: SpeedyMaxx on Apr 03, 2017, 01:12:16 PM
Quote from: fernandito on Apr 03, 2017, 01:02:54 PM
the classic alien and the warrior variants were 3 meters tall, like the engineer in Prometheus basically. If that ain't giant for ya..

The adul deacon and Neomorph should be just as big as the classic alien. eight to nine foot+

I didn't write what you quoted, someone else did. To be clear, I don't think there is another 'giant' alien in the film beyond the alien featured in these promos. There is zero evidence of it. People on the forums tend to take any rumor, misquote or confused audience member and assume this must mean there are new alien races, an Engineer civil war, exiled Engineers, or giant new big bad monsters. One would suggest it implies a dissatisfaction with the actual plot of the film as we now know it.
Title: Re: Alien: Covenant TV Spots
Post by: Valaquen on Apr 03, 2017, 01:23:25 PM
Quote from: SiL on Apr 03, 2017, 01:08:55 PM
I agree that suits with enhancements is typically the best option. The fact every shot of the Alien so far has been CG, even in simple closeups, just really doesn't bode well. Even the test screenings said it was mostly CGI, which makes me think the practical stuff has been painted over completely.

Thinking the same. All the chatter in the articles about practical Aliens and I haven't seen anything in the trailers that satisfies the interest they piqued with aforementioned comments. Maybe they're saving it all for the film, but I hope it wasn't Thing'd.
Title: Re: Alien: Covenant TV Spots
Post by: fernandito on Apr 03, 2017, 01:33:29 PM
My day has definitely improved after realizing that the Neomorph won't dissapoint as a creepy alternate monster in the movie

Still not sure whether that's Its adult form already
Title: Re: Alien: Covenant TV Spots
Post by: Russ840 on Apr 03, 2017, 01:33:54 PM
I think the one in the spot looks practical. Something about it looks that way to me. Although. It does look painted over some what.
I think it looks good. Certainly not 'The Thing' prequel bad
Title: Re: Alien: Covenant TV Spots
Post by: Molecules on Apr 03, 2017, 01:36:39 PM
Quote from: SpeedyMaxx on Apr 03, 2017, 01:12:16 PM

I didn't write what you quoted, someone else did. To be clear, I don't think there is another 'giant' alien in the film beyond the alien featured in these promos. There is zero evidence of it. People on the forums tend to take any rumor, misquote or confused audience member and assume this must mean there are new alien races, an Engineer civil war, exiled Engineers, or giant new big bad monsters. One would suggest it implies a dissatisfaction with the actual plot of the film as we now know it.

Mind you, for everything the Prometheus trailers and TV spots gave away, didn't they keep the trilobyte and deacon in the chamber? I wouldn't rule out as-yet unseen creatures, even if they don't constitute some huge reveal. Unless verified plot leaks say otherwise (I'm not privy to these).
Title: Re: Alien: Covenant TV Spots
Post by: fernandito on Apr 03, 2017, 01:37:45 PM
Loved the Thing prequel. Still to this day don't get what was wrong with it other than the ?pressence? of two americans in the Norwegian Camp (should have been a full Norwegian spoken movie, with of course subtitllles for the rest of the 99% of the world lol), and the retcon of the norwegians using explosives in order to leave the alien ship exposed prior investigation of it instead of the engines melting the ice in the end.
Title: Re: Alien: Covenant TV Spots
Post by: Evanus on Apr 03, 2017, 01:41:45 PM
Quote from: fernandito on Apr 03, 2017, 01:37:45 PM
Loved the Thing prequel. Still to this day don't get what was wrong with it other than the ?pressence? of two americans in the Norwegian Camp (should have been a full Norwegian spoken movie, with of course subtitllles for the rest of the 99% of the world lol), and the retcon of they using explosives in order to leave the alien ship exposed instead prior investigation of it instead of the engines melting the ice in the end.
I liked it too, but the CGI is pretty terrible. I hope it's not the same for Alien Covenant.
Title: Re: Alien: Covenant TV Spots
Post by: fernandito on Apr 03, 2017, 01:48:08 PM
The Neomorph cgi is looking good to me tbh. No worries of end up looking like the thing prequel cgi I'd say.

It's also a good thing to still be unsure whether or not that's its final form
Title: Re: Alien: Covenant TV Spots
Post by: skhellter on Apr 03, 2017, 01:48:20 PM
Youtube Compression isnt really helping the cgi. Gives it a "smooth" weird look that sticks out.


Neomorph design looks atrocious as f**k, though.
And that f**king SyFy channel styled scene of him biting towards the camera.... lol.
What is this..? Lake Placid 6?

this film just looks.. uninspired.
An Alien planet that looks just like New Zealand...
Ridley brought back the Resurrection-styled Xenos instead of the biomechanical Big Chap we wanted.
Neomorphs that look deeply generic....
Even more dead Engineers and more big statues....


Ridley is phoning it the f**k in.

yawn
Title: Re: Alien: Covenant TV Spots
Post by: Xenomorphine on Apr 03, 2017, 01:50:17 PM
Quote from: Bojo on Apr 03, 2017, 12:13:40 PM
See the problem with the Xenomorph nowadays is,because its so embedded in popular culture,that the creature/design looks less frightening and more cool.
That's not a criticism of Scott it's just unfortunately the way it is.

That's the view Scott had, but it's completely false. What we've seen over the years in popular media are pale imitations of how to portray the Alien correctly. When 'Alien Isolation' came out, the one thing it did superbly was to give us an Alien which looks and moves just like it should. It's probably the first time since 'Aliens' that the creature came across as the nightmarish living creature it's meant to be.

See, how many times have we seen vampires, dragons and zombies? There have been portrayals of those for centuries and not just in attempts to do so seriously, but in comedy and mockery. Yet, that doesn't stop them from having the potential to be terrifyingly effective when someone does them right.

Familiarity with a visual design will never detract from its power. You just have to know how to handle them. How to have them behave, what to have them do and, importantly, how to atmospherically light them (visually, lighting is probably the most effective tool of them all).

Otherwise, common old human beings would never be able to come across as scary. But the vast majority of films with villains in tend to be human.

Quote from: SiL on Apr 03, 2017, 01:08:55 PM
I agree that suits with enhancements is typically the best option. The fact every shot of the Alien so far has been CG, even in simple closeups, just really doesn't bode well. Even the test screenings said it was mostly CGI, which makes me think the practical stuff has been painted over completely.

I agree. The movement of the creature just doesn't have the weight needed to project the illusion of inertia. It's too fluid, which makes me wonder if not only the practical suit effects have been mostly covered over, but that the actor's movements might have been permanently sped up for almost every shot, Benny Hill-style.

Someone should put Yakety Sax over the AC adverts and see if it improves them. :laugh:

Quote from: Molecules on Apr 03, 2017, 01:36:39 PM
Mind you, for everything the Prometheus trailers and TV spots gave away, didn't they keep the trilobyte and deacon in the chamber?

Yeah, but they were relatively inconsequential to the film. The former didn't have much time on screen and the latter was almost a Roger Corman-alike wink-wink, nudge-nudge thing.
Title: Re: Alien: Covenant TV Spots
Post by: lv_226 on Apr 03, 2017, 01:50:55 PM
Quote from: locusta on Apr 03, 2017, 10:28:42 AM
Yep, for all the skull lovers! :D

This is so awesome.... thanks! I am wondering, maybe I am blind, but I am not seeing the skull underneath the carapace all that clearly.

EDIT; I'm sorry man, I see that this has already been done elsewhere in the thread.  8)
Title: Re: Alien: Covenant TV Spots
Post by: Adorianu on Apr 03, 2017, 02:02:07 PM
Quote from: SrSpinelli on Apr 03, 2017, 12:52:39 PM
I hate how people are calling the Xeno a "Proto-morph", it's not. That's bullshit created by scified.
Neca already confirmed it's the Xenomorph, it's just a different design, jeez

Those new alien movies are telling the origin of the Xenomorph,how they were probably created,in this movie we see that this is not yet true Xenomorph that we know,it dont have biomechanical parts,so its logical to assume this is a PROTO version of classic Xenomorph,and that this will evolve into alien we know,at the end of the movie or in the next movie.
Title: Re: Alien: Covenant TV Spots
Post by: zoidy on Apr 03, 2017, 02:05:40 PM
Nope, I'm not buying that alien as cgi. It's a practical closeup with practical lips as far as I can see, is there CGI water or embellishments? Possibly.
Title: Re: Alien: Covenant TV Spots
Post by: Ingwar on Apr 03, 2017, 02:07:25 PM
It's 2017. Forget that 100 + million R-rated blockbuster will fully base on practical effects. Don't be naive and romantic. Neomorph head scene is taken out of the context. We need to wait and see for  the whole sequence. And believe me, if it was practical a lot of people would have complained why it hasn't been done as CGI. Some scenes simply cannot be done in old-school way. You cannot satisfy everyone.

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C8dBOLrWAAAu_qr.jpg)

(https://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.scified.com%2Farticles%2Ftwo-new-alien-covenant-tv-spots-released-new-alien-footage-23.jpg&hash=2a04cb8572b98b6373005a5925e86e447b9237d1)
Title: Re: Alien: Covenant TV Spots
Post by: Predaker on Apr 03, 2017, 02:08:20 PM
Quote from: fernandito on Apr 03, 2017, 01:02:54 PM
Quote from: SpeedyMaxx on Apr 03, 2017, 01:01:04 PM
i think that was mentioned by the actors stating they had fun running from these giant aliens. i dont think the neomorph or xenomorph qualifies as giant. big, sure. giant? no
the classic alien and the warrior variants were 3 meters tall, like the engineer in Prometheus basically. If that ain't giant for ya..

The adul deacon and Neomorph should be just as big as the classic alien. eight to nine foot+

Is that from the novelization? Lambert is not 7 ft. plus tall :laugh: (Veronica Cartwright is 5'5")
Title: Re: Alien: Covenant TV Spots
Post by: KillCrites on Apr 03, 2017, 02:16:06 PM
They definitely got me excited for the film again.
Title: Re: Alien: Covenant TV Spots
Post by: fernandito on Apr 03, 2017, 02:18:05 PM
Quote from: Predaker on Apr 03, 2017, 02:08:20 PM
Is that from the novelization? Lambert is not 7 ft. plus tall :laugh: (Veronica Cartwright is 5'5")
(https://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi65.tinypic.com%2F285ct3.png&hash=21860cb7f6946ea1887e71150985bb0cd3c38699)(https://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi66.tinypic.com%2Fneeqeo.jpg&hash=41d0ef84373b9f68047d8d50f1f992fffcb1fc76)(https://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi67.tinypic.com%2F6fvaxy.jpg&hash=dffecf23b6ee0cf07b5431b6c21e6841431d5165)

Quote from: KillCrites on Apr 03, 2017, 02:16:06 PM
They definitely got me excited for the film again.
yeah definitely
Title: Re: Alien: Covenant TV Spots
Post by: zoidy on Apr 03, 2017, 02:19:29 PM
Quote from: Ingwar on Apr 03, 2017, 02:07:25 PM
It's 2017. Forget that 100 + million R-rated blockbuster will fully base on practical effects. Don't be naive and romantic. Neomorph head scene is taken out of the context. We need to wait and see for  the whole sequence. And believe me, if it was practical a lot of people would have complained why it hasn't been done as CGI. Some scenes simply cannot be done in old-school way. You cannot satisfy everyone.
Sure, many shots will be cgi. But we know from the recently published articles from last years set visits that it's a combination of everything - cgi, lots of practical effects, actors eg the French (?) guy who did the creature in REC and others, so it's not a case of practical being a romantic irrelevance. It's still used, and Ridley appears to be using all the techniques. I don't deny the neomorph is CGI, but the Big Chap closeups will be practical I'm sure. Of couse wider shots won't be, they will be CGI or a mix with the motion actor I mentioned.
Title: Re: Alien: Covenant TV Spots
Post by: Richman678 on Apr 03, 2017, 02:29:24 PM
Sorry but the Neomorph CG is laughable. I would rather see the movie delayed rather than them release the movie with the Neomorph looking that way.
Title: Re: Alien: Covenant TV Spots
Post by: Ingwar on Apr 03, 2017, 02:37:46 PM
Quote from: zoidy on Apr 03, 2017, 02:19:29 PM
Quote from: Ingwar on Apr 03, 2017, 02:07:25 PM
It's 2017. Forget that 100 + million R-rated blockbuster will fully base on practical effects. Don't be naive and romantic. Neomorph head scene is taken out of the context. We need to wait and see for  the whole sequence. And believe me, if it was practical a lot of people would have complained why it hasn't been done as CGI. Some scenes simply cannot be done in old-school way. You cannot satisfy everyone.
Sure, many shots will be cgi. But we know from the recently published articles from last years set visits that it's a combination of everything - cgi, lots of practical effects, actors eg the French (?) guy who did the creature in REC and others, so it's not a case of practical being a romantic irrelevance. It's still used, and Ridley appears to be using all the techniques. I don't deny the neomorph is CGI, but the Big Chap closeups will be practical I'm sure. Of couse wider shots won't be, they will be CGI or a mix with the motion actor I mentioned.

Absolutely agree. Everything depends how CGI is used. I would love to see practical staff as well. I don't thing we have seen meaningful one yet in the trailers.


Quote from: Richman678 on Apr 03, 2017, 02:29:24 PM
Sorry but the Neomorph CG is laughable. I would rather see the movie delayed rather than them release the movie with the Neomorph looking that way.

Laughable? I like it. It grows up on me. How would you execute that scene? Besides, we don't know if it's the final CG. They might look better once movie is released. And if you really want to see a laughable CG then watch King Arthur: Legend of the Sword trailer.
Title: Re: Alien: Covenant TV Spots
Post by: fernandito on Apr 03, 2017, 02:42:48 PM
Quote from: Richman678 on Apr 03, 2017, 02:29:24 PM
Sorry but the Neomorph CG is laughable
if you say so
Title: Re: Alien: Covenant TV Spots
Post by: Stolen on Apr 03, 2017, 02:48:05 PM
The neomorph with his mouth closed is scary as hell! I love it !!!
Title: Re: Alien: Covenant TV Spots
Post by: Evanus on Apr 03, 2017, 02:48:13 PM
Can't say I'm fond of the Neomorph design either. But maybe it's because you can only see it from the front. I'm sure it'll look better from different perspectives.
Title: Re: Alien: Covenant TV Spots
Post by: SrSpinelli on Apr 03, 2017, 02:54:08 PM
Quote from: Adorianu on Apr 03, 2017, 02:02:07 PM
Quote from: SrSpinelli on Apr 03, 2017, 12:52:39 PM
I hate how people are calling the Xeno a "Proto-morph", it's not. That's bullshit created by scified.
Neca already confirmed it's the Xenomorph, it's just a different design, jeez

Those new alien movies are telling the origin of the Xenomorph,how they were probably created,in this movie we see that this is not yet true Xenomorph that we know,it dont have biomechanical parts,so its logical to assume this is a PROTO version of classic Xenomorph,and that this will evolve into alien we know,at the end of the movie or in the next movie.
Because different design means different types of creature ima right?
It's a design change, it's still the same creature, Protomorph is a FALSE name amde by a website known for spreading false information.
Title: Re: Alien: Covenant TV Spots
Post by: Ingwar on Apr 03, 2017, 03:00:58 PM
What's wrong about it? Looks fine to me.

(https://ksassets.timeincuk.net/wp/uploads/sites/55/2017/04/aliencovenant-768x488.png)
Title: Re: Alien: Covenant TV Spots
Post by: Adorianu on Apr 03, 2017, 03:01:25 PM
From this TV Spot now i think that Neomorph will have similiar mouth to Deacon(this is why someone who said watched movie was confusing neomorphs with Deacons).

This is how he looks like with close mouths:

(https://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FkCcX4yt.png&hash=c05d39db6c2beaec53acaf444a4dc037b4daef74)


And when he opens them

it will(his jaws) came out like those jaws in Deacon:

(https://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FTGMyEVT.jpg&hash=0ce78de390c1318f3b0679e7ef63580ac7e894ed)

(https://ksassets.timeincuk.net/wp/uploads/sites/55/2017/04/aliencovenant-768x488.png)
Title: Re: Alien: Covenant TV Spots
Post by: Stolen on Apr 03, 2017, 03:03:46 PM
Quote from: Adorianu on Apr 03, 2017, 03:01:25 PM
This is how he looks like with close mouths:

(https://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FkCcX4yt.png&hash=c05d39db6c2beaec53acaf444a4dc037b4daef74)

Seriously. Creepy !
Title: Re: Alien: Covenant TV Spots
Post by: Ingwar on Apr 03, 2017, 03:05:30 PM
Quote from: Adorianu on Apr 03, 2017, 03:01:25 PM
From this TV Spot now i think that Neomorph will have similiar mouth to Deacon(this is why someone who said watched movie was confusing neomorphs with Deacons).

This is how he looks like with close mouths:

(https://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FkCcX4yt.png&hash=c05d39db6c2beaec53acaf444a4dc037b4daef74)


And when he opens them

it will(his jaws) came out like those jaws in Deacon:

(https://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FTGMyEVT.jpg&hash=0ce78de390c1318f3b0679e7ef63580ac7e894ed)

(https://ksassets.timeincuk.net/wp/uploads/sites/55/2017/04/aliencovenant-768x488.png)

I don't thing that Neomorph's got inner jaw. I might be wrong.
Title: Re: Alien: Covenant TV Spots
Post by: 426Buddy on Apr 03, 2017, 03:12:34 PM
I think the neomorph looks pretty good, I like the design of the jaw.
Title: Re: Alien: Covenant TV Spots
Post by: Sabres21768 on Apr 03, 2017, 03:19:07 PM
Yes you can tell that the whole jaw extends outward, much like the goblin shark

Also,I think people are knocking it a bit because all we're seeing right now is it face on. So it gives it the illusion of having an odd looking head.

But once we see it with its normal elongated head,it will look a lot different.
Title: Re: Alien: Covenant TV Spots
Post by: Evanus on Apr 03, 2017, 03:20:45 PM
Quote from: Sabres21768 on Apr 03, 2017, 03:19:07 PM
Yes you can tell that the whole jaw extends outward, much like the goblin shark

Also,I think people are knocking it a bit because all we're seeing right now is it face on. So it gives it the illusion of having an odd looking head.

But once we see it with its normal elongated head,it will look a lot different.
Yeah. Like I said before, I think it'll look better when I see it from different angles.
Title: Re: Alien: Covenant TV Spots
Post by: shawsbaby on Apr 03, 2017, 03:26:28 PM
Quote from: Adorianu on Apr 03, 2017, 03:01:25 PM
From this TV Spot now i think that Neomorph will have similiar mouth to Deacon(this is why someone who said watched movie was confusing neomorphs with Deacons).

This is how he looks like with close mouths:

(https://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FkCcX4yt.png&hash=c05d39db6c2beaec53acaf444a4dc037b4daef74)


And when he opens them

it will(his jaws) came out like those jaws in Deacon:

(https://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FTGMyEVT.jpg&hash=0ce78de390c1318f3b0679e7ef63580ac7e894ed)

(https://ksassets.timeincuk.net/wp/uploads/sites/55/2017/04/aliencovenant-768x488.png)

I am digging how head on with the mouth closed it resembles the shape of a human head.
Title: Re: Alien: Covenant TV Spots
Post by: Sabres21768 on Apr 03, 2017, 03:30:32 PM
I still need a good gif of the grown Neomorph scene.
Title: Re: Alien: Covenant TV Spots
Post by: zoidy on Apr 03, 2017, 03:39:19 PM
The mouth of the neomorph looks like the art we've seen before. In particular the 2nd one, not sure if it was concept art or fan art?

(https://www.avpgalaxy.net/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2016/10/22102016_01.jpg)

(https://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.cosmicbooknews.com%2Fsites%2Fdefault%2Ffiles%2Falien-covenant-neomorph.jpg&hash=5b0449991b688d0e23a267fff559e4272c6ed952)
Title: Re: Alien: Covenant TV Spots
Post by: Dangerous Days on Apr 03, 2017, 03:40:30 PM
The adult Neomorph reminds me of the vampires from Priest.

http://www.ilikecomicstoo.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/05/priest-vampire.png

Quote from: Xenomorphine on Apr 03, 2017, 01:50:17 PM

That's the view Scott had, but it's completely false. What we've seen over the years in popular media are pale imitations of how to portray the Alien correctly. When 'Alien Isolation' came out, the one thing it did superbly was to give us an Alien which looks and moves just like it should. It's probably the first time since 'Aliens' that the creature came across as the nightmarish living creature it's meant to be.

See, how many times have we seen vampires, dragons and zombies? There have been portrayals of those for centuries and not just in attempts to do so seriously, but in comedy and mockery. Yet, that doesn't stop them from having the potential to be terrifyingly effective when someone does them right.

Familiarity with a visual design will never detract from its power. You just have to know how to handle them. How to have them behave, what to have them do and, importantly, how to atmospherically light them (visually, lighting is probably the most effective tool of them all).

Otherwise, common old human beings would never be able to come across as scary. But the vast majority of films with villains in tend to be human.


Good point. Although I also think character vulnerability was key in making the alien frightening in Isolation. The fact you couldn't just grab a gun and shoot it dead.

Quote from: Ingwar on Apr 03, 2017, 02:07:25 PM
It's 2017. Forget that 100 + million R-rated blockbuster will fully base on practical effects. Don't be naive and romantic. Neomorph head scene is taken out of the context. We need to wait and see for  the whole sequence. And believe me, if it was practical a lot of people would have complained why it hasn't been done as CGI. Some scenes simply cannot be done in old-school way. You cannot satisfy everyone.

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C8dBOLrWAAAu_qr.jpg)

(https://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.scified.com%2Farticles%2Ftwo-new-alien-covenant-tv-spots-released-new-alien-footage-23.jpg&hash=2a04cb8572b98b6373005a5925e86e447b9237d1)

Agree, I think people get over nostalgic when it comes to practical effects. Both ALIEN and ALIENS have some great creature effects that stand up well today. Like Big Chap's reveal behind Brett, or the Warrior coming out of the water behind Newt. But both films contain some decidedly dodgy guy in a creature suit moments as well. like Big Chap getting sucked out of the Narcissus, or the Warriors crawling through the loft space before bouncing around like Skippy the kangaroo in the following battle.
Title: Re: Alien: Covenant TV Spots
Post by: Predaker on Apr 03, 2017, 04:14:19 PM
Perhaps the neomorph shot is older and has been improved since then? That did look pretty bad, especially compared to the shot of the Alien.

Quote from: fernandito on Apr 03, 2017, 02:18:05 PM
Quote from: Predaker on Apr 03, 2017, 02:08:20 PM
Is that from the novelization? Lambert is not 7 ft. plus tall :laugh: (Veronica Cartwright is 5'5")
http://i65.tinypic.com/285ct3.pnghttp://i66.tinypic.com/neeqeo.jpghttp://i67.tinypic.com/6fvaxy.jpg

Yup, definitely not 3 meters or 9 ft. plus
Title: Re: Alien: Covenant TV Spots
Post by: SrSpinelli on Apr 03, 2017, 04:16:31 PM
Quote from: zoidy on Apr 03, 2017, 03:39:19 PM
The mouth of the neomorph looks like the art we've seen before. In particular the 2nd one, not sure if it was concept art or fan art?

(https://www.avpgalaxy.net/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2016/10/22102016_01.jpg)

(https://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.cosmicbooknews.com%2Fsites%2Fdefault%2Ffiles%2Falien-covenant-neomorph.jpg&hash=5b0449991b688d0e23a267fff559e4272c6ed952)
I'm pretty sure that if you add a tail to that you would have the Neomorph.
Title: Re: Alien: Covenant TV Spots
Post by: newagescamartist on Apr 03, 2017, 04:21:18 PM
I'm fairly confident the neomorph will look good on screen. The shot they chose seems very awkward, but I guess it gives off the horror sense they're trying to promote.
Title: Re: Alien: Covenant TV Spots
Post by: SuicideDoors on Apr 03, 2017, 04:30:21 PM
Quote from: Xenomorphine on Apr 03, 2017, 01:50:17 PM
That's the view Scott had, but it's completely false. What we've seen over the years in popular media are pale imitations of how to portray the Alien correctly. When 'Alien Isolation' came out, the one thing it did superbly was to give us an Alien which looks and moves just like it should. It's probably the first time since 'Aliens' that the creature came across as the nightmarish living creature it's meant to be.

See, how many times have we seen vampires, dragons and zombies? There have been portrayals of those for centuries and not just in attempts to do so seriously, but in comedy and mockery. Yet, that doesn't stop them from having the potential to be terrifyingly effective when someone does them right.

Familiarity with a visual design will never detract from its power. You just have to know how to handle them. How to have them behave, what to have them do and, importantly, how to atmospherically light them (visually, lighting is probably the most effective tool of them all).

Otherwise, common old human beings would never be able to come across as scary. But the vast majority of films with villains in tend to be human.

Absolutely excellent analogy. I remember always saying the same thing using a Spider or Shark for example; you can watch a million videos on them but they still have the ability to evoke pure dread.

Also because of the podcasts I've listened too I read your posts in your voice, it's weird reading dozens of responses in my head only to shift to a distinctly different tone! ha
Title: Re: Alien: Covenant TV Spots
Post by: SpeedyMaxx on Apr 03, 2017, 04:33:57 PM
I didn't have a problem with the smaller neomorph, but the one shown in the TV spot is literally the exact same no-eyes/all-mouth white creature shown in a zillion bad low-budget horror movies for over a decade. It's been reused constantly due to similar designs from various popular horror video games. I couldn't believe it was turning up yet again in a major big-budget Alien franchise picture in 2017, much less with CG that looks like it dates back at least 10 years.
Title: Re: Alien: Covenant TV Spots
Post by: Evanus on Apr 03, 2017, 04:37:01 PM
Yeah it does kinda look cliché, doesn't it? Ah well. At least the Xenomorph is looking good!
Title: Re: Alien: Covenant TV Spots
Post by: Adorianu on Apr 03, 2017, 04:38:19 PM
Quote
I don't thing that Neomorph's got inner jaw. I might be wrong.

Im not talking that he have inner jaw,im saying that his basic jaw will be working like that,will be coming out from that round face.

Quotemuch like the goblin shark

Yeah!! this exactly!!

Title: Re: Alien: Covenant TV Spots
Post by: Predaker on Apr 03, 2017, 04:46:43 PM
Quote from: SpeedyMaxx on Apr 03, 2017, 04:33:57 PM
I didn't have a problem with the smaller neomorph, but the one shown in the TV spot is literally the exact same no-eyes/all-mouth white creature shown in a zillion bad low-budget horror movies for over a decade. It's been reused constantly due to similar designs from various popular horror video games. I couldn't believe it was turning up yet again in a major big-budget Alien franchise picture in 2017, much less with CG that looks like it dates back at least 10 years.
Quote from: Evanus on Apr 03, 2017, 04:37:01 PM
Yeah it does kinda look cliché, doesn't it? Ah well. At least the Xenomorph is looking good!

Same here.

I like the dark and foreboding tone of it all so far. It'll be nice if Covenant manages to maintain that outside of brief trailer clips. The shot of the crashed derelict/juggernaut in the woods was chilling.
Title: Re: Alien: Covenant TV Spots
Post by: rabidranger on Apr 03, 2017, 05:12:55 PM
Quote from: Evanus on Apr 03, 2017, 04:37:01 PM
Yeah it does kinda look cliché, doesn't it? Ah well. At least the Xenomorph is looking good!

What isn't cliche today? I mean, in essence Alien: Covenant is using visuals/creature design in part inspired  by other media which was originally inspired by the original Alien which in and of itself was derivative.
Title: Re: Alien: Covenant TV Spots
Post by: Russ840 on Apr 03, 2017, 05:25:45 PM
Is it me or does the Xeno have similar body details to the Deacon. Look at the deacon pics, check out the shoulders and then compare with the way the new Xeno looks. I would say there is a resemblance.
Title: Re: Alien: Covenant TV Spots
Post by: cliffhanger on Apr 03, 2017, 05:45:23 PM
Quote from: Ingwar on Apr 03, 2017, 03:00:58 PM
What's wrong about it? Looks fine to me.

(https://ksassets.timeincuk.net/wp/uploads/sites/55/2017/04/aliencovenant-768x488.png)

it's not neccesarily how it looks, but how it moves. it just looks odd how it suddenly comes forward. i don't know if it's the angle or so,
but it looks almost like a blob moving elastically forward. i don't know how to describe it correctly.

i don't have a problem with how the neo looks like, i think it actually looks haunting. i can even get past the cgi-looking stuff. it's a tad too smooth and shiny and clean (squeaky clean) looking which imho makes it look more cgi. i think if it had some dust/dirt like on it, and some more wrinkles and less shiny skin it would already look better.

but again, for me, it's not really how it looks, i'm fine wiht that. i'm also fine with the jaw portruding out like the deacon. but it's somehow how it moves that bothers me. still, let's just wait the movie.

i'm happy to see the adult neo though. veeery curious on the movie. gots to see it.
Title: Re: Alien: Covenant TV Spots
Post by: shawsbaby on Apr 03, 2017, 05:54:25 PM
I think the editing of the TV spot is what makes the neomorph movement seem a bit cartoony. I'm sure it will look excellent in the film. We can critique his narrative sensibilities until the cows come home, but Ridley's got visuals down.
Title: Re: Alien: Covenant TV Spots
Post by: episodenone on Apr 03, 2017, 05:54:50 PM
Well -- I can sum up my feelings rather easily... I love em.  All 3. Love em. 

Love the Pompeii feel to the Engineer corpses.  I mean -- few things on Earth can match the destructive power or an erupting Volcano -- this looks legit.
Title: Re: Alien: Covenant TV Spots
Post by: Evanus on Apr 03, 2017, 06:04:13 PM
Seems like that close up shot of the Xenomorph is from the shower scene. That's why there's so much water. I can't believe it took me so long to notice.  :D
Title: Re: Alien: Covenant TV Spots
Post by: Jenga on Apr 03, 2017, 06:08:47 PM
RE: EVANUS

I had the same head scratching moment. I was like: "I know  Ridley likes to have more water on the alien mouth than the other directors but there was SO much". Now this all makes sense :)
Title: Re: Alien: Covenant TV Spots
Post by: cliffhanger on Apr 03, 2017, 06:37:55 PM
i just realised that this image:

(https://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.scified.com%2Fu%2Fart-of-alien-covenant.jpg&hash=bc4e7f7a3da7a4023b03335138ccbbac30a1c98e)

actually shows a rather correct shaped skullhead of the 'new' xeno, if we were to go by how we see the nose and eye sockets in the trailer(s).....
or am i seeing things wrong here?
Title: Re: Alien: Covenant TV Spots
Post by: Ingwar on Apr 03, 2017, 06:39:54 PM
Quote from: cliffhanger on Apr 03, 2017, 05:45:23 PM
Quote from: Ingwar on Apr 03, 2017, 03:00:58 PM
What's wrong about it? Looks fine to me.

(https://ksassets.timeincuk.net/wp/uploads/sites/55/2017/04/aliencovenant-768x488.png)

it's not neccesarily how it looks, but how it moves. it just looks odd how it suddenly comes forward. i don't know if it's the angle or so,
but it looks almost like a blob moving elastically forward. i don't know how to describe it correctly.

But we don't know yet how it moves. This TV spot shows just 1 or 2 seconds of it. It's just a very short part of the scene which we know nothing about.
Title: Re: Alien: Covenant TV Spots
Post by: cliffhanger on Apr 03, 2017, 06:47:28 PM
well obviously we're discussing how it moves IN THE TRAILER, so yeah, those 1 or 2 seconds.
not wanting to say 'duh' because it would be a tad disrespectful and that's not my intention,
but i think it's pretty obvious that's what's discussing here.
Title: Re: Alien: Covenant TV Spots
Post by: Ingwar on Apr 03, 2017, 06:53:27 PM
Quote from: cliffhanger on Apr 03, 2017, 06:47:28 PM
well obviously we're discussing how it moves IN THE TRAILER, so yeah, those 1 or 2 seconds.
not wanting to say 'duh' because it would be a tad disrespectful and that's not my intention,
but i think it's pretty obvious that's what's discussing here.

None taken. But I have a question: how can you discuss the way adult Neomorph moves based upon 1 second (it's even less than 1 second) shot?
Title: Re: Alien: Covenant TV Spots
Post by: Bad Replicant on Apr 03, 2017, 07:13:39 PM
The CGI doesn't bother me. I can understand some of the criticism of the corridor shot from the trailer, but wouldn't judge too harshly based on the brief snippets seen so far. There could very well be a reason the alien is CGI in the shower shot that will become clear later. As has been pointed out previously, some of this stuff may still be tweaked further between now and release anyways. Frankly, right now I'm just happy to see an alien colored and lit that way again, reminds me very much of the closeups from the first film.

Also, regarding the comparisons to The Thing, unless I'm mistaken the CGI makeover on that movie was something that was done against the director's wishes, but it wasn't his call. I don't think anybody's pushing Ridley in a corner over this stuff, and if that's the way he wants it it's the way he wants it -- which I think was made pretty clear from just about everything in Prometheus.
Title: Re: Alien: Covenant TV Spots
Post by: cliffhanger on Apr 03, 2017, 07:17:39 PM
lol, i understand what you mean, i really do, but i'm rather refering to the actual shot.
the shot looks odd, it moves odd. thats my problem with it.

i havent seen enough to judge how it goes in general, but for this shot, it looks odd.

the juvenile version looked great and moved rather awesome and believable to me. very animalistic. not bad, but it gives me a bit of a carnivoreous velociraptor-like sensation instead of proper alien intelligent being. but perhaps the neomorph is really that, animalistic. perhaps the neomorph is the origin creature, perhaps a form of parasite that takes on its host's features which is why it looks like a human being somewhat, and the xenomorph is the  lifeform 'edited' by the engineers/anohter race, and david picks up the game.

again, the reason i'm discussing that is because that's all we got. we have nothing else of an adult neomorph but that shot. and exactly that shot looks weird and odd, due to the movement imho.

for the xeno we have multiple shots. it moves gracefully in the corridor, and really good imho. also when it's crawling on the spacecraft, and also when its taking a shower. the only moment i think the xeno moved odd was when headbutting the windshield.

so again, even if it's just half a second, it just moves odd. visually, i have no problem with it though.
i feel like it suddenly gets catapulted from a stand still like it's hit by a canonball in the back of the head.
Title: Re: Alien: Covenant TV Spots
Post by: shawsbaby on Apr 03, 2017, 07:23:06 PM
Quote from: cliffhanger on Apr 03, 2017, 07:17:39 PM
lol, i understand what you mean, i really do, but i'm rather refering to the actual shot.
the shot looks odd, it moves odd. thats my problem with it.

Agreed - but it's a very quick TV spot. I'm almost certain it's the editing that makes the movement appear so odd. In fact, I'd bet money the actual shot in the film is much longer and it takes longer for the mouth to open and for the head to lunge. Frames have been removed for a fast movement that'll create a jump in the ad.
Title: Re: Alien: Covenant TV Spots
Post by: cliffhanger on Apr 03, 2017, 07:28:05 PM
anyway, looks like the neomorph looks a lot like the deacon with the mouth shut.

(https://i.ytimg.com/vi/XgFRgG2XTjY/maxresdefault.jpg)

and a non-blue skin.

(https://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.alien-covenant.com%2Faliencovenant_uploads%2Fdeaconpuppeto.jpg&hash=4e9cd4f13fd37ed150fe043a0c7dd74bdab5e6e1)

the more i see the deacon, the more i start liking it more and more, especially that it has no tail.

neomorph looks like it's jaw/mouth moves a lot visually like this deacon statue
(https://www.avpgalaxy.net/gallery/albums/userpics/28516/aahz_28829.JPG)

Title: Re: Alien: Covenant TV Spots
Post by: Ingwar on Apr 03, 2017, 07:28:32 PM
I don't think we gonna see practical effect in the classical way. Sure, they have been used for the movie but they have been CGI make-overed (converted) to preserve consistence in Aliens look. Imagine one scene with CGI Xenomorph and another without CGI. Seems odd. What do you think?
Title: Re: Alien: Covenant TV Spots
Post by: cliffhanger on Apr 03, 2017, 07:36:24 PM
btw, something i don't understand though.

we saw these leakes:

(https://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.johnnyetc.com%2Fwp-content%2Fuploads%2F2016%2F10%2Fleaked-alien-covenant-set-photos-3.jpg&hash=07f380fe05c66959d2468ccc03818d6ab5cb35aa)

i really love this grey xeno-neomorph one. i absolutely love it. adore it. i was hoping to see this in the movie,
but by what it looks like, we get that 'bumface' - even though it looks haunting with the mouth closed.

is there a chance we still get to see this beauty?
Title: Re: Alien: Covenant TV Spots
Post by: Evanus on Apr 03, 2017, 07:37:58 PM
Quote from: cliffhanger on Apr 03, 2017, 07:36:24 PM
btw, something i don't understand though.

we saw these leakes:

(https://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.johnnyetc.com%2Fwp-content%2Fuploads%2F2016%2F10%2Fleaked-alien-covenant-set-photos-3.jpg&hash=07f380fe05c66959d2468ccc03818d6ab5cb35aa)

i really love this grey xeno-neomorph one. i absolutely love it. adore it. i was hoping to see this in the movie,
but by what it looks like, we get that 'bumface' - even though it looks haunting with the mouth closed.

is there a chance we still get to see this beauty?
Pretty sure that's just a failed experiment, not an actual Neomorph.
Title: Re: Alien: Covenant TV Spots
Post by: rabidranger on Apr 03, 2017, 07:38:34 PM
I've never been under the impression the xenomorph is some sort of ultra intelligent being. It's a pretty simple creature with limited motivations.
Title: Re: Alien: Covenant TV Spots
Post by: shawsbaby on Apr 03, 2017, 07:38:49 PM
Quote from: cliffhanger on Apr 03, 2017, 07:36:24 PM
btw, something i don't understand though.

we saw these leakes:

(https://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.johnnyetc.com%2Fwp-content%2Fuploads%2F2016%2F10%2Fleaked-alien-covenant-set-photos-3.jpg&hash=07f380fe05c66959d2468ccc03818d6ab5cb35aa)

i really love this grey xeno-neomorph one. i absolutely love it. adore it. i was hoping to see this in the movie,
but by what it looks like, we get that 'bumface' - even though it looks haunting with the mouth closed.

is there a chance we still get to see this beauty?

I bet this is just one of David's failed attempts with its wonky side bite.
Title: Re: Alien: Covenant TV Spots
Post by: cliffhanger on Apr 03, 2017, 07:39:02 PM
:(

but it looks so cool
Title: Re: Alien: Covenant TV Spots
Post by: Adorianu on Apr 03, 2017, 07:40:57 PM
Quote from: cliffhanger on Apr 03, 2017, 07:28:05 PM
anyway, looks like the neomorph looks a lot like the deacon with the mouth shut.

(https://i.ytimg.com/vi/XgFRgG2XTjY/maxresdefault.jpg)

and a non-blue skin.

(https://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.alien-covenant.com%2Faliencovenant_uploads%2Fdeaconpuppeto.jpg&hash=4e9cd4f13fd37ed150fe043a0c7dd74bdab5e6e1)

the more i see the deacon, the more i start liking it more and more, especially that it has no tail.

neomorph looks like it's jaw/mouth moves a lot visually like this deacon statue
(https://www.avpgalaxy.net/gallery/albums/userpics/28516/aahz_28829.JPG)


Check page 10,i wrote about Neomorph and Deacon look :)
Title: Re: Alien: Covenant TV Spots
Post by: cliffhanger on Apr 03, 2017, 07:46:37 PM
i know! (y)
Title: Re: Alien: Covenant TV Spots
Post by: Dangerous Days on Apr 03, 2017, 09:11:58 PM
Whether they improve the CG or the animatronic and suit versions of the Neomorph can make a significant difference to how it appears in the final film, we will have to wait and see. But to be honest, even then, I'm not sure I can call myself a fan of the design; at least not of the adult. As others have already said, its very generic of countless creatures we have seen in videogames and B horror movies over the last decade or so.

I have a lot of admiration for the talent of effects artists and creature designers, but often think the one thing many of them lack, in comparison to Giger, is originality. I guess that's the rare quality that separates the talented from genius.

I know most creature effects artists have nothing but admiration for Giger and are inspired by him. But deep down there must be a hint of envy, that a fine artist like Giger, without even trying, could create a movie monster that broke the mould.
Title: Re: Alien: Covenant TV Spots
Post by: Ingwar on Apr 03, 2017, 09:18:28 PM
Fan art. Love it!

(https://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.alien-covenant.com%2Faliencovenant_uploads%2F11264530_1557119327897546_2043630731_n.jpg&hash=0fae2abb5ac9ac7a7aac96640b8b4058f0d310ae)
Title: Re: Alien: Covenant TV Spots
Post by: Stolen on Apr 03, 2017, 09:21:24 PM
Do you have examples of this generic creatures please ?  :(
Title: Re: Alien: Covenant TV Spots
Post by: 426Buddy on Apr 03, 2017, 09:55:34 PM
I think it looks great, are we sure the shot of the alien in the shower is cgi?
Title: Re: Alien: Covenant TV Spots
Post by: zoidy on Apr 03, 2017, 09:59:57 PM
Quote from: 426Buddy on Apr 03, 2017, 09:55:34 PM
I think it looks great, are we sure the shot of the alien in the shower is cgi?
I've been saying all day on here it's practical :-) i'm not sure why people think it's CGI. Maybe the water is making people think it's CGI, I don't know. It's a closeup rather than a full body shot, it's exactly the sort of shot they build (and they did apparently) the mechanical alien heads for.
Title: Re: Alien: Covenant TV Spots
Post by: Ragonk_Force on Apr 03, 2017, 10:00:11 PM
As far as the neomorph goes in the trailer, lets not jump to conclusions on the design or the cg just yet. Its a 2 second clip, and 1 angle and for all we know may not even be in the film. But if it is we dont know the context of the scene. As far as im concerned the still of it before it opens its mouth is pretty damn scary looking


Quote from: 426Buddy on Apr 03, 2017, 09:55:34 PM
I think it looks great, are we sure the shot of the alien in the shower is cgi?
If you cant tell it must be good cgi. I dont recall seeing anyone complain about the cg creatures in prometheus, the cg in this will be just as good or better
Title: Re: Alien: Covenant TV Spots
Post by: SiL on Apr 03, 2017, 10:11:02 PM
Quote from: zoidy on Apr 03, 2017, 09:59:57 PM

I've been saying all day on here it's practical :-) i'm not sure why people think it's CGI.
Because it's clearly CG. It doesn't look real, it doesn't move realistically.
Title: Re: Alien: Covenant TV Spots
Post by: zoidy on Apr 03, 2017, 10:29:35 PM
Quote from: SiL on Apr 03, 2017, 10:11:02 PM
Quote from: zoidy on Apr 03, 2017, 09:59:57 PM

I've been saying all day on here it's practical :-) i'm not sure why people think it's CGI.
Because it's clearly CG. It doesn't look real, it doesn't move realistically.
I'm guessing we're talking about 2 different things. I'm talking about the alien in the shower, not the neomorph. The movement, what there is in the shower, is entirely 'real' for a practical effect.
Title: Re: Alien: Covenant TV Spots
Post by: Predaker on Apr 03, 2017, 10:56:22 PM
Quote from: Ragonk_Force on Apr 03, 2017, 10:00:11 PM
As far as the neomorph goes in the trailer, lets not jump to conclusions on the design or the cg just yet. Its a 2 second clip, and 1 angle and for all we know may not even be in the film. But if it is we dont know the context of the scene. As far as im concerned the still of it before it opens its mouth is pretty damn scary looking

No amount of context will help. The neomorph is pretty much the most bland, plain, boring, and uninspired design it could possibly be. The blob face is cringe worthy. It's like a textbook case of minimalism gone wrong.
Title: Re: Alien: Covenant TV Spots
Post by: SiL on Apr 03, 2017, 11:11:56 PM
Quote from: zoidy on Apr 03, 2017, 10:29:35 PM
Quote from: SiL on Apr 03, 2017, 10:11:02 PM
Quote from: zoidy on Apr 03, 2017, 09:59:57 PM

I've been saying all day on here it's practical :-) i'm not sure why people think it's CGI.
Because it's clearly CG. It doesn't look real, it doesn't move realistically.
I'm guessing we're talking about 2 different things. I'm talking about the alien in the shower, not the neomorph. The movement, what there is in the shower, is entirely 'real' for a practical effect.
That's what I'm talking about. The thing that is very clearly an animated character and not a practical effect.
Title: Re: Alien: Covenant TV Spots
Post by: zoidy on Apr 04, 2017, 12:00:21 AM
Quote from: SiL on Apr 03, 2017, 11:11:56 PM
Quote from: zoidy on Apr 03, 2017, 10:29:35 PM
Quote from: SiL on Apr 03, 2017, 10:11:02 PM
Quote from: zoidy on Apr 03, 2017, 09:59:57 PM

I've been saying all day on here it's practical :-) i'm not sure why people think it's CGI.
Because it's clearly CG. It doesn't look real, it doesn't move realistically.
I'm guessing we're talking about 2 different things. I'm talking about the alien in the shower, not the neomorph. The movement, what there is in the shower, is entirely 'real' for a practical effect.
That's what I'm talking about. The thing that is very clearly an animated character and not a practical effect.
What's clearly animated about it?


Put it this way: the two final shots are of the alien, which moves slightly upward and the mouth and lips move. And a shot of Daniels in a spacesuit, surrounded by floating stuff.

Question: which is "animated", and which is real?


There's no way you can seriously tell me that the alien in that sequence is "clearly animated" (ie cgi) but Daniels isn't. Comparatively, I'd say there's LESS enhancement in the alien frames than the Daniels ones.

Why would that movement of the alien not be practical? It's not leaping. It's not performing a Nibbler move like the neomorph. It moves it's mouth and lips, and it's getting wet (I'm saying nothing). Perfect practical effect territory. What's clearly animated?

;D
Title: Re: Alien: Covenant TV Spots
Post by: SiL on Apr 04, 2017, 12:16:02 AM
There's CG in the Daniels shot, but she's real. The Alien is not. The texture is wrong, the shading is off.

You're right, it is practical effect territory: but that is obviously not a practical effect.
Title: Re: Alien: Covenant TV Spots
Post by: zoidy on Apr 04, 2017, 12:35:37 AM
I'm not seeing what is obviously not practical about it?


Nope. I've watched it over and over, and I don't get it.

Now, to be clear, it *could* be very good cgi. But nothing in it is obvious cgi. And critically, nothing in the movement requires cgi.

If I were to speculate, I'd say perhaps you're assuming the water on the carapace is cgi? I mean, there's little else there to argue about. The rest is indistinguishable as real or not. The water on the carapace? I say it's real. There's also an odd effect, a sort of trick of the eye I think, that comes from the fast water moving down, and the slower drool (blood?) from the mouth, the different speeds might be what you think look fake?

But that looks like a practical alien to me. It's what they build those practical heads/working mouths & lips for.
Title: Re: Alien: Covenant TV Spots
Post by: RidgeTop on Apr 04, 2017, 12:42:39 AM
That last shot of the Alien in the spot is definitely CG. The shots from the very first trailer during the same scene seemed to be practical though, so hopefully there is a balanced mix.
Title: Re: Alien: Covenant TV Spots
Post by: zoidy on Apr 04, 2017, 12:43:18 AM
In fact, I go back to my original point - Daniels is really there, with CGI additions. I think the alien is almost certainly practical, it's as there and as real as Daniels. There may well be CGI additions though. just like Daniels and the floaters.
Title: Re: Alien: Covenant TV Spots
Post by: RidgeTop on Apr 04, 2017, 12:51:33 AM
Quote from: zoidy on Apr 04, 2017, 12:43:18 AM
In fact, I go back to my original point - Daniels is really there, with CGI additions. I think the alien is almost certainly practical, it's as there and as real as Daniels. There may well be CGI additions though. just like Daniels and the floaters.

If that's the case then its face is CG, the water on its face also appears to be CG by how it's flowing. When you've seen enough monster movies you can tell them apart, just ask Omegamorph.
Title: Re: Alien: Covenant TV Spots
Post by: skhellter on Apr 04, 2017, 12:52:19 AM
the water is definitely CGI in that shot of the Xeno. Because they are in an anti-gravity area... so.. CGI was necessary.
But the xeno seems to be practical.
Title: Re: Alien: Covenant TV Spots
Post by: RidgeTop on Apr 04, 2017, 12:59:46 AM
I'm pretty sure that's not an anti gravity area, it's part of the shower scene shown from the original trailer. That Daniels shot is not from the same scene, they are just edited together for marketing.
Title: Re: Alien: Covenant TV Spots
Post by: Anthony on Apr 04, 2017, 01:42:17 AM
https://twitter.com/AlienAnthology/status/849073809084661760

Another new spot.

The hashtag is TakeMeHome in reverse. And the glitches at the end seem to be a hologram in the David and Shaw's ship.
Title: Re: Alien: Covenant TV Spots
Post by: Ultramorph on Apr 04, 2017, 01:55:37 AM
Anyone gotten a good picture of the hologram?


First glitch is someone in the the "arm chair" on the Juggernaut bridge working the goo button controls. Can't make out who or what it is, but temptation is to say maybe Shaw.


Second glitch looks like Covenant crew on the bridge seeing the hologram from glitch number one.
Title: Re: Alien: Covenant TV Spots
Post by: salomonj on Apr 04, 2017, 02:05:08 AM
I love the new spot! Great song choice.
Title: Re: Alien: Covenant TV Spots
Post by: Necronomicon II on Apr 04, 2017, 02:11:51 AM
What's the song?
Title: Re: Alien: Covenant TV Spots
Post by: lv_226 on Apr 04, 2017, 02:12:41 AM
This is a very interesting shot. It may even be Shaw and David onboard the Engineer ship-- the console is lit up and the pilot chair is activated.

(https://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FTlMyA93.jpg&hash=1f4fd899e5b7c92550d43ddb4672f1cc4abdda4f)

(https://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2F9Keiqft.jpg&hash=600c9db97678773ce021c14fbec85af37acf8e38)
Title: Re: Alien: Covenant TV Spots
Post by: salomonj on Apr 04, 2017, 02:13:47 AM
Quote from: Necronomicon II on Apr 04, 2017, 02:11:51 AM
What's the song?
John Denver's Country Roads. You wouldn't think it would go well with it but it really does.
Title: Re: Alien: Covenant TV Spots
Post by: Anthony on Apr 04, 2017, 02:18:06 AM
I got a decent shot of the first glitch, but I can't upload it. File is too big.
Title: Re: Alien: Covenant TV Spots
Post by: PsyKore on Apr 04, 2017, 02:19:10 AM
Quote from: Ultramorph on Apr 04, 2017, 01:55:37 AM
Anyone gotten a good picture of the hologram?


First glitch is someone in the the "arm chair" on the Juggernaut bridge working the goo button controls. Can't make out who or what it is, but temptation is to say maybe Shaw.

I thought it was her too. The figure has a similar build, and the helmet looks a similar shape and size.
Title: Re: Alien: Covenant TV Spots
Post by: Whos_Nick on Apr 04, 2017, 02:26:45 AM
https://www.instagram.com/p/BSci8qrFfH3/?hl=en

Here it is
Title: Re: Alien: Covenant TV Spots
Post by: SiL on Apr 04, 2017, 02:33:25 AM
Doesn't really show her fate, but does seem to show David reactivating the ship to kill the Engineers.
Title: Re: Alien: Covenant TV Spots
Post by: Ultramorph on Apr 04, 2017, 02:35:19 AM
I guess now we know what song it is she's singing.
Title: Re: Alien: Covenant TV Spots
Post by: Whos_Nick on Apr 04, 2017, 02:36:19 AM
looks like her in the chair here
Title: Re: Alien: Covenant TV Spots
Post by: tuskhaus on Apr 04, 2017, 02:43:18 AM


On the newest trailer in the link above, there's a hidden Instagram towards the end. On that Instagram is a single video of the same trailer but with 15 more seconds of footage showing a clear shot of Dr. Shaw's dog tags being viewed by Daniels as well as the crew of the Covenant watching a hologram rending of an individual working the controls of the Juggernaut.

https://www.instagram.com/emoh_em_ekat/
Title: Re: Alien: Covenant TV Spots
Post by: skhellter on Apr 04, 2017, 02:46:07 AM
"an individual"

It's SHAW.
Title: Re: Alien: Covenant TV Spots
Post by: skhellter on Apr 04, 2017, 02:47:22 AM
we cant really see her face in that hologram... might be edited a bit just to get the audiences guessing before the film.
???


But it IS Shaw.
Title: Re: Alien: Covenant TV Spots
Post by: 426Buddy on Apr 04, 2017, 02:50:56 AM
Spoiler
I wonder if shaw actually releases the goo on paradise
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Title: Re: Alien: Covenant TV Spots
Post by: Scorpio on Apr 04, 2017, 02:55:17 AM
I can't see Shaw.

That is her dogtags, though.
Title: Re: Alien: Covenant TV Spots
Post by: banecat on Apr 04, 2017, 02:56:31 AM
who wants to bet the hologram is her only part in this?
Title: Re: Alien: Covenant TV Spots
Post by: Anthony on Apr 04, 2017, 02:57:51 AM
Spoiler
I recall someone mentioning how Tennessee discovers a hologram of Shaw singing while looking sick. Maybe this is it, but blurred out.
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Title: Re: Alien: Covenant TV Spots
Post by: Huggs on Apr 04, 2017, 03:21:48 AM
The Neomorph looks amazing. It's throwing off some serious "thing" vibes.
Title: Re: Alien: Covenant TV Spots
Post by: SpeedyMaxx on Apr 04, 2017, 03:29:18 AM
Where does it show David activating the ship?
Title: Re: Alien: Covenant TV Spots
Post by: SpeedyMaxx on Apr 04, 2017, 03:32:36 AM
The longer version is a fantastic TV spot, though I hate Shaw's fate and think it's so beneath the characters (especially David) and the story.

That's not David controlling the juggernaut, BTW - that's the Covenant crew inside it working the controls and activating a past hologram, just as the Prometheus team did in the installation on LV-223.
Title: Re: Alien: Covenant TV Spots
Post by: sugarhigh on Apr 04, 2017, 03:56:24 AM
Looks like the shape of Shaw's head/ hair.
Title: Re: Alien: Covenant TV Spots
Post by: Anthony on Apr 04, 2017, 04:23:21 AM
Am I seeing things, or
Spoiler
is there what seems to be a tail behind the hologram in the shot with Billy Crudup?
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Title: Re: Alien: Covenant TV Spots
Post by: RidgeTop on Apr 04, 2017, 04:51:53 AM
Good spot. Also, the CGI appears to have been updated.

Trailer
(https://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FH4shw9H.png&hash=f8307f3d1985c63296dd723f9a6ba477b6f77d22)
Spot
(https://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2Fz1D6e9V.png&hash=e175e6f17e584637d1c735a2e776909f05a8a2db)
Title: Re: Alien: Covenant TV Spots
Post by: sugarhigh on Apr 04, 2017, 05:08:42 AM
That's just the pattern on the chair.
Title: Re: Alien: Covenant TV Spots
Post by: fernandito on Apr 04, 2017, 06:31:59 AM
It gotta be David the blurry hologram using the jugg console. Can't be Shaw obviously, because only David knows how to operate that

Can't wait to see how Scott solves the pilot chair problem for a human/synth to sit in a chair designed for 3 meters tall motherf**kers and control the ship. David is the only one who can control it and he's still a Dwarf like Shaw. He can not reach the helmet sector, activate all the systems/space jockey suit and take off lol.

It will be a good laugh to see what Scott has come up with in order to solve such impossible situation presented in the end of Prometheus hah. 50 bucks not even the holograms are explaining it. The holograms will probably recreate a scene of they being already at Paradise, with a fight between Shaw and David; David putting her in cryo; David preparing the bombing sequence, or something like that
Title: Re: Alien: Covenant TV Spots
Post by: SpeedyMaxx on Apr 04, 2017, 06:41:15 AM
Quote from: fernandito on Apr 04, 2017, 06:31:59 AM
It gotta be David the blurry hologram using the jugg console. Can't be Shaw obviously, because only David knows how to operate that

It's not. Shaw could've been taught by David.
Title: Re: Alien: Covenant TV Spots
Post by: Hard-R on Apr 04, 2017, 06:56:14 AM
Very creepy but I'm loving it!!!

You can just about make her out singing 'I belong' very off key.
Someone maybe able to enhance the audio in that segment.

Kinda wished they hadn't revealed it though - another part of the film that should have been concealed till release.
Title: Re: Alien: Covenant TV Spots
Post by: Corporal Hicks on Apr 04, 2017, 07:09:43 AM
I'm actually quite liking that song. It worked pretty well. I wonder if it's

Spoiler
the song that Shaw is singing that the Covenant picks up?
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Title: Re: Alien: Covenant TV Spots
Post by: Kronnang_Dunn on Apr 04, 2017, 07:11:55 AM
JoBlo movie trailers at YouTube has the "Shaw" trailer. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EFRjP_J0o3U

At 0:56 there appears to be something protruding from the back of the "individual" in the hologram... Guess the crazy "Queen" theories were true...  :o


Oh sorry it was 0:26. My mistake  ::)
Title: Re: Alien: Covenant TV Spots
Post by: Corporal Hicks on Apr 04, 2017, 07:15:39 AM
Merged Nicks' thread with the existing trailer spot thread.
Title: Re: Alien: Covenant TV Spots
Post by: juxtapose on Apr 04, 2017, 07:30:12 AM
every time something new gwts released i am unable to download cause i just ran out of data. .dammit. .only reading about this and not being able to watch it. .drives me nuts!. .everything i have heard so far sounds encouraging tho. .can't wait to see!
Title: Re: Alien: Covenant TV Spots
Post by: Ingwar on Apr 04, 2017, 07:34:00 AM
Quote from: Corporal Hicks on Apr 04, 2017, 07:09:43 AM
I'm actually quite liking that song. It worked pretty well. I wonder if it's

Spoiler
the song that Shaw is singing that the Covenant picks up?
[close]

I was thinking the same.
Spoiler
This song suits Tennessee who will recognise it.
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Title: Re: Alien: Covenant TV Spots
Post by: cliffhanger on Apr 04, 2017, 07:34:15 AM
Quote from: Kronnang_Dunn on Apr 04, 2017, 07:11:55 AM
JoBlo movie trailers at YouTube has the "Shaw" trailer. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EFRjP_J0o3U

At 0:56 there appears to be something protruding from the back of the "individual" in the hologram... Guess the crazy "Queen" theories were true...  :o


Oh sorry it was 0:26. My mistake  ::)

that. is effin. awesome.
gettin more excited for this movie by the minute!

seems like shaw IS getting a bigger role than anticipated,
and i think what waterston is looking at with her suit on is shaw in her biomechanical form, perhaps even as a queen?
Title: Re: Alien: Covenant TV Spots
Post by: Adorianu on Apr 04, 2017, 07:36:16 AM
Quote from: RidgeTop on Apr 04, 2017, 04:51:53 AM
Good spot. Also, the CGI appears to have been updated.

Trailer
(https://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FH4shw9H.png&hash=f8307f3d1985c63296dd723f9a6ba477b6f77d22)
Spot
(https://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2Fz1D6e9V.png&hash=e175e6f17e584637d1c735a2e776909f05a8a2db)


Well look again ;P on the first picture lights are off,in second lights are on,so lighting is different.
Title: Re: Alien: Covenant TV Spots
Post by: Necronomicon II on Apr 04, 2017, 07:56:45 AM
His body has more texture/detail away from the light source however.
Title: Re: Alien: Covenant TV Spots
Post by: Corporal Hicks on Apr 04, 2017, 08:01:15 AM
The head also looks ridged.
Title: Re: Alien: Covenant TV Spots
Post by: Ingwar on Apr 04, 2017, 08:08:03 AM
https://www.instagram.com/p/BSci8qrFfH3/?hl=en

Put your headphones and listen carefully.
Spoiler
Shaw is singing that song.
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Title: Re: Alien: Covenant TV Spots
Post by: Hard-R on Apr 04, 2017, 08:12:34 AM
Quote from: Ingwar on Apr 04, 2017, 08:08:03 AM
https://www.instagram.com/p/BSci8qrFfH3/?hl=en

Put your headphones and listen carefully.
Spoiler
Shaw is singing that song.
[close]
Yes as I mentioned earlier: You can just about make her out singing 'I belong' very off key.
Title: Re: Alien: Covenant TV Spots
Post by: Evanus on Apr 04, 2017, 08:24:49 AM
Another?! Nice. Watching it now.  :D
Title: Re: Alien: Covenant TV Spots
Post by: Hard-R on Apr 04, 2017, 08:31:44 AM
Good to see vinyl is still available 100 years into the future!
Title: Re: Alien: Covenant TV Spots
Post by: RidgeTop on Apr 04, 2017, 08:34:40 AM
Quote from: Adorianu on Apr 04, 2017, 07:36:16 AM
Quote from: RidgeTop on Apr 04, 2017, 04:51:53 AM
Good spot. Also, the CGI appears to have been updated.

Trailer
(https://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FH4shw9H.png&hash=f8307f3d1985c63296dd723f9a6ba477b6f77d22)
Spot
(https://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2Fz1D6e9V.png&hash=e175e6f17e584637d1c735a2e776909f05a8a2db)


Well look again ;P on the first picture lights are off,in second lights are on,so lighting is different.

Noticed that, but based on the negative space of the Xeno's body position, I'm pretty sure that's the same shot. Perhaps the top row of lights were illuminated in post? The glass damage seems more dramatic as well.

Quote from: Corporal Hicks on Apr 04, 2017, 08:01:15 AM
The head also looks ridged.

It's possible the dome could have been made more transparent.
Title: Re: Alien: Covenant TV Spots
Post by: Evanus on Apr 04, 2017, 08:38:42 AM
Holy shit I guess that person in the hologram is Shaw, then.
Title: Re: Alien: Covenant TV Spots
Post by: SiL on Apr 04, 2017, 08:39:52 AM
Quote from: RidgeTop on Apr 04, 2017, 08:34:40 AM
Quote from: Adorianu on Apr 04, 2017, 07:36:16 AM
Quote from: RidgeTop on Apr 04, 2017, 04:51:53 AM
Good spot. Also, the CGI appears to have been updated.

Trailer
(https://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FH4shw9H.png&hash=f8307f3d1985c63296dd723f9a6ba477b6f77d22)
Spot
(https://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2Fz1D6e9V.png&hash=e175e6f17e584637d1c735a2e776909f05a8a2db)


Well look again ;P on the first picture lights are off,in second lights are on,so lighting is different.

Noticed that, but based on the negative space of the Xeno's body position, I'm pretty sure that's the same shot. Perhaps the top row of lights were illuminated in post? The glass damage seems more dramatic as well.

Quote from: Corporal Hicks on Apr 04, 2017, 08:01:15 AM
The head also looks ridged.

It's possible the dome could have been made more transparent.
There's definitely more/better detail on the left arm.
Title: Re: Alien: Covenant TV Spots
Post by: Adorianu on Apr 04, 2017, 08:52:56 AM
Quote from: Corporal Hicks on Apr 04, 2017, 08:01:15 AM
The head also looks ridged.

Its the same,just typical illusion,now we se it in light.

(https://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FWLEI3V7.png&hash=54f393a689dc8f7935d9eaace264347b4c50b416)

I also put on one head on another and it fits.
And you see textures on this alien because like i said,there is lighting now.
Title: Re: Alien: Covenant TV Spots
Post by: DendaReloaded on Apr 04, 2017, 08:56:22 AM
(https://media.giphy.com/media/5ycq9xuX5PUs0/giphy.gif)

here yall got it.
seems they also altered the ships model itself. lol @ the left thumb intersecting with the hull of the shuttle. prom had the same lazy placement of models back in the first trailers (aka the 180° turn of the juggernaut, the replaced crystal in the thomb etc.)
for the people bitching about the cgi go back to 2012 and watch the first trailer for prom, they improved it with each tv spot till the release.
Title: Re: Alien: Covenant TV Spots
Post by: RidgeTop on Apr 04, 2017, 08:58:24 AM
Quote from: DendaReloaded on Apr 04, 2017, 08:56:22 AM
https://media.giphy.com/media/5ycq9xuX5PUs0/giphy.gif

here yall got it.
seems they also altered the ships model itself. lol @ the left thumb intersecting with the hull of the shuttle. prom had the same lazy placement of models back in the first trailers (aka the 180° turn of the juggernaut, the replaced crystal in the thomb etc.)
for the people bitching about the cgi go back to 2012 and watch the first trailer for prom, they improved it with each tv spot till the release.

That's the exact same shot. Top row of lights must have been illuminated with CGI.
Title: Re: Alien: Covenant TV Spots
Post by: Russ840 on Apr 04, 2017, 09:00:00 AM
Quote from: Adorianu on Apr 04, 2017, 08:52:56 AM
Quote from: Corporal Hicks on Apr 04, 2017, 08:01:15 AM
The head also looks ridged.

Its the same,just typical illusion,now we se it in light.

(https://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FWLEI3V7.png&hash=54f393a689dc8f7935d9eaace264347b4c50b416)

I also put on one head on another and it fits.
And you see textures on this alien because like i said,there is lighting now.

No. More detail has been added also. How do you explain the light from behind, showing more detail on the dome at the front.
Title: Re: Alien: Covenant TV Spots
Post by: Adorianu on Apr 04, 2017, 09:00:48 AM
Quote from: DendaReloaded on Apr 04, 2017, 08:56:22 AM
https://media.giphy.com/media/5ycq9xuX5PUs0/giphy.gif

here yall got it.
seems they also altered the ships model itself. lol @ the left thumb intersecting with the hull of the shuttle. prom had the same lazy placement of models back in the first trailers (aka the 180° turn of the juggernaut, the replaced crystal in the thomb etc.)
for the people bitching about the cgi go back to 2012 and watch the first trailer for prom, they improved it with each tv spot till the release.

Nice job,clearly its the lighting.
Title: Re: Alien: Covenant TV Spots
Post by: Evanus on Apr 04, 2017, 09:01:41 AM
I think it's pretty clear they changed more than just the lighting. It looks much more detailed.
Title: Re: Alien: Covenant TV Spots
Post by: Adorianu on Apr 04, 2017, 09:02:04 AM
Quote from: Russ840 on Apr 04, 2017, 09:00:00 AM
Quote from: Adorianu on Apr 04, 2017, 08:52:56 AM
Quote from: Corporal Hicks on Apr 04, 2017, 08:01:15 AM
The head also looks ridged.

Its the same,just typical illusion,now we se it in light.

(https://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FWLEI3V7.png&hash=54f393a689dc8f7935d9eaace264347b4c50b416)

I also put on one head on another and it fits.
And you see textures on this alien because like i said,there is lighting now.

No. More detail has been added also. How do you explain the light from behind, showing more detail on the dome at the front.

Jesus.....you see now details on the dome because of the LIGHT,look at this gif above.....


Quote from: Evanus on Apr 04, 2017, 09:01:41 AM
I think it's pretty clear they changed more than just the lighting. It looks much more detailed.

Pretty clear is that the light revealed more details.You  dont know how light can change a LOT in seeing images.
Title: Re: Alien: Covenant TV Spots
Post by: DendaReloaded on Apr 04, 2017, 09:03:56 AM
they even changed the bolts at the ships hull and the shape/thickness of the metal frames. if i gif this shit at least look a bit closer before talking about the same 20 LEDs. the position of the tail proves its the same shot, tho the position of the arm has been changed as well as it was floating in the air or whatever. does anyone know what studio does the visuals this time?

edit: if i hear one more bitch saying the shit lighting is responsible for more texture detail imma go HQ. go to the light and see jesus
Title: Re: Alien: Covenant TV Spots
Post by: RidgeTop on Apr 04, 2017, 09:04:45 AM
Yes, lighting was added, but it's also clear to see the arms have more detail that wasn't there before regardless of lighting. That's texturing. The sky has also had some color correction and like DendaReloaded pointed out, it looks like the cockpit has had some minor alterations as well.
Title: Re: Alien: Covenant TV Spots
Post by: Russ840 on Apr 04, 2017, 09:06:28 AM
Quote from: Adorianu on Apr 04, 2017, 09:02:04 AM
Quote from: Russ840 on Apr 04, 2017, 09:00:00 AM
Quote from: Adorianu on Apr 04, 2017, 08:52:56 AM
Quote from: Corporal Hicks on Apr 04, 2017, 08:01:15 AM
The head also looks ridged.

Its the same,just typical illusion,now we se it in light.

(https://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FWLEI3V7.png&hash=54f393a689dc8f7935d9eaace264347b4c50b416)

I also put on one head on another and it fits.
And you see textures on this alien because like i said,there is lighting now.

No. More detail has been added also. How do you explain the light from behind, showing more detail on the dome at the front.

Jesus.....you see now details on the dome because of the LIGHT,look at this gif above.....


JESUS...... look at the left thumb  it's not even fully in one image. Or the right side window of the ship. Totally different in each.

You seem to want to argue with people a lot when you are clearly wrong. Same as yesterday about the skull under the dome.

Although it was that you were big enough to admitt you were wrong.
Title: Re: Alien: Covenant TV Spots
Post by: Evanus on Apr 04, 2017, 09:07:12 AM
Quote from: Adorianu on Apr 04, 2017, 09:02:04 AM
Quote from: Russ840 on Apr 04, 2017, 09:00:00 AM
Quote from: Adorianu on Apr 04, 2017, 08:52:56 AM
Quote from: Corporal Hicks on Apr 04, 2017, 08:01:15 AM
The head also looks ridged.

Its the same,just typical illusion,now we se it in light.

(https://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FWLEI3V7.png&hash=54f393a689dc8f7935d9eaace264347b4c50b416)

I also put on one head on another and it fits.
And you see textures on this alien because like i said,there is lighting now.

No. More detail has been added also. How do you explain the light from behind, showing more detail on the dome at the front.

Jesus.....you see now details on the dome because of the LIGHT,look at this gif above.....


Quote from: Evanus on Apr 04, 2017, 09:01:41 AM
I think it's pretty clear they changed more than just the lighting. It looks much more detailed.

Pretty clear is that the light revealed more details.
Nah, the textures are clearly sharper. Especially noticeable on the arms. Compare the two trailers on youtube in 1080p, then it's pretty easy to see the difference.
Title: Re: Alien: Covenant TV Spots
Post by: Adorianu on Apr 04, 2017, 09:08:25 AM
Quote from: RidgeTop on Apr 04, 2017, 09:04:45 AM
Yes, lighting was added, but it's also clear to see the arms have more detail that wasn't there before regardless of lighting, that's texturing. The sky has also had some color correction and like DendaReloaded pointed out, looks like the cockpit has had some minor alterations as well.

You think arms have more details,its the light......just go on google and look some stuff how lighting and shadows can change a LOT.
I remember saw one picture of one person with different lights and shadows,and in some it looked like different person.

QuoteNah, the textures are clearly sharper. Especially noticeable on the arms

No its the lighting showing more details.
Title: Re: Alien: Covenant TV Spots
Post by: RidgeTop on Apr 04, 2017, 09:09:48 AM
(https://s5o.ru/storage/simple/ru/ugc/24/77/17/65/ruuc896a4b198.jpg)
Title: Re: Alien: Covenant TV Spots
Post by: Russ840 on Apr 04, 2017, 09:10:32 AM
Lol OMG
Title: Re: Alien: Covenant TV Spots
Post by: DendaReloaded on Apr 04, 2017, 09:10:51 AM
@Adorianu ure 12 go home

as for the rest of those who are either dumb or blind:
(https://media.giphy.com/media/k4M3po6DqkRva/giphy.gif)

seems as lighting also can thicken ur wrist and twist the living f**k out of metal components
Title: Re: Alien: Covenant TV Spots
Post by: Corporal Hicks on Apr 04, 2017, 09:12:51 AM
Keep it civil please, gents.  :)
Title: Re: Alien: Covenant TV Spots
Post by: Russ840 on Apr 04, 2017, 09:14:04 AM
Quote from: DendaReloaded on Apr 04, 2017, 09:10:51 AM
@Adorianu ure 12 go home

as for the rest of those who are either dumb or blind. seems as lighting also can thicken ur wrist.

https://media.giphy.com/media/k4M3po6DqkRva/giphy.gif

That's exactly the bit I would have made larger to show this.

Let me guess though. It's the lighting that changes the angles, shape and design of the window frame, right ? And certain lighting can make fingers invisible selectively ?
Title: Re: Alien: Covenant TV Spots
Post by: Adorianu on Apr 04, 2017, 09:16:11 AM
Quote from: DendaReloaded on Apr 04, 2017, 09:10:51 AM
@Adorianu ure 12 go home

as for the rest of those who are either dumb or blind:
https://media.giphy.com/media/k4M3po6DqkRva/giphy.gif

seems as lighting also can thicken ur wrist and twist the living f**k out of metal components

On Alien yeah wrist is bigger,but on  the rest hand ,its the light mostly,maybe one line closer to his elbow is deeper more  distinct.
Title: Re: Alien: Covenant TV Spots
Post by: DendaReloaded on Apr 04, 2017, 09:19:13 AM
@ russ
yes! lighting has also the ability to cause confusion among certain users after big amounts of exposure, leaving the eye damaged permanently.

@adorianu
ure 12 stop educating us with wrong info and misleading the internet into believing ur bullshit. while u're at it, go watch some educational videos about lighting, in english if possible.
Title: Re: Alien: Covenant TV Spots
Post by: Adorianu on Apr 04, 2017, 09:20:43 AM
Quote from: DendaReloaded on Apr 04, 2017, 09:19:13 AM
yes! lighting has also the ability to cause confusion among certain users after big amounts of exposure, leaving the eye damaged permanently.

Good that you can recognize your own flaws :D

Quotego watch some educational videos about lighting,

Oh you so mautre :D,you can apply this advise for youself :D
Title: Re: Alien: Covenant TV Spots
Post by: Corporal Hicks on Apr 04, 2017, 09:23:55 AM
Don't make me ask again gents...


And sniped. If you're incapable of interacting or disagreeing as adults, just don't. Let me know if you don't think you can do that and I'll remove your abilities to post. Thanks.  :)
Title: Re: Alien: Covenant TV Spots
Post by: Russ840 on Apr 04, 2017, 09:32:01 AM
Hicks. I assume that 'sniped' comment was aimed at me as my post was removed. Thats not what I was doing on that post. I was serious about not being rude. I don't come here for that.

Apologies if it came off that way
Title: Re: Alien: Covenant TV Spots
Post by: Corporal Hicks on Apr 04, 2017, 09:33:49 AM
Yours wasn't the only post I removed but it was aimed at those posts I did remove. It did come off that way but thank you for the apology.
Title: Re: Alien: Covenant TV Spots
Post by: AXOR on Apr 04, 2017, 09:35:10 AM
ARE WE ACTUALLY ANALYSING THE WIDTH OF THE ALIEN'S WRIST, OR HOW DEEP IT'S ELBOW GOES....PLEASE. THIS IS GETTING RIDICULOUS. I am a huge fan, and much prefer it when the design of the creature stays closer to that of the first two movies, ideally the first one. But really, I mean really picking apart details mentioned by me previously, that's ludicrous. 
Title: Re: Alien: Covenant TV Spots
Post by: Russ840 on Apr 04, 2017, 09:37:47 AM
Cool. Definitely not my intent. Perhaps the 'LOL' was in poor taste at the beginning. I was just laughing at how childish it was getting.

Sorry again.
Title: Re: Alien: Covenant TV Spots
Post by: Evanus on Apr 04, 2017, 09:40:00 AM
What's that spike thingy coming out of her back?
(https://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FO6yuDjd.png&hash=9430af067be95d9b14ceb9c890b19815e6fcfea3)
Title: Re: Alien: Covenant TV Spots
Post by: zoidy on Apr 04, 2017, 09:41:39 AM
That's the chair, no?
Title: Re: Alien: Covenant TV Spots
Post by: DendaReloaded on Apr 04, 2017, 09:42:27 AM
that thing that "rises" behind her are the same waves of light that travel across the surface the frames before, based on speed etc. its just light illuminating the "wall" behind her i guess. no alien

@Hicks forgive my sins please
Title: Re: Alien: Covenant TV Spots
Post by: Adorianu on Apr 04, 2017, 09:45:59 AM
Quote from: Evanus on Apr 04, 2017, 09:40:00 AM
What's that spike thingy coming out of her back?
(https://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FO6yuDjd.png&hash=9430af067be95d9b14ceb9c890b19815e6fcfea3)

Looks like tail at first,so my first thoughts:
(https://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg14.deviantart.net%2F7aaa%2Fi%2F2007%2F351%2Fc%2F7%2Fxenomorph_attack_by_ookami_kodomo.jpg&hash=80cdca6f4b8c9573366135352264611ba6c9dfa6)

But who knows maybe its the lighting ;> xD

Title: Re: Alien: Covenant TV Spots
Post by: John Doe on Apr 04, 2017, 09:49:16 AM
It´s shaw, i made a spanish video about this:

Title: Re: Alien: Covenant TV Spots
Post by: locusta on Apr 04, 2017, 09:55:50 AM
Wow, guys. No need to freaking go into a fight because of something so obvious in all the business these days.

These trailer materials are some times month apart from creation. All latest movies teaser, first and second Trailer and then the final film have huge differences. Especially the CGI.

As an explanation, why the Xeno looks not only different because of the updated lightning of the scene, is the level of displacement mapping (look it here up: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Displacement_mapping)

The first renders have to be done quick and high settings of displacement are heavy on render time. Even my models differ by settings from half an hour per frame up to 4 h! Of course a house like MPC has huge render farms and can facilitate data we can´t even imagine, but this process takes just huge amount of time and marketing is doing it´s own thing along that.

Other reason as well, sometimes they even change the render engine. So the first footage might have been on a more light level (some even use Unreal Engine and similar) and the end render in final quality is Render Man. Huge difference of appearance.

For example, Guardians of the Galaxy use two different CGI studios to do Rocket Raccoon and Groot. As well they used different render engines. Trick is the end comp and grading.

And for the guys wondering why the ship changed, this is full CG scene. No ship, no sky, no Alien. Full out of the tin. And there will be plenty of those.

And now let´s enjoy the last 45 days of waiting time :D
Title: Re: Alien: Covenant TV Spots
Post by: ReluctantNerd on Apr 04, 2017, 09:59:00 AM
Wow, I'm quite creeped out by
Spoiler
the shaw hologram and how hopeless she looks and sounds, and it does seem like something "bursts" from her back in the end (and that moment is accompanied by a music cue so it does seem to be significant
[close]
I do find it amusing that engineer technology is apparently very advanced except for holograms. But their look is very convenient for horror movies :)
And
Spoiler
the fact that the "Shaw" trailer basically shows first Shaw and some hints as to her fate, and then the eggs, does support the theory that she's the source of them
[close]
All in all, despite having spoiled myself silly with this movie already, it seems like it's going to be something I want to see. And with this kind of cruel and horrific follow up, Prometheus is starting to look like a naïve fairy tale, just like Shaw's beliefs, which can serve as a nice contrast to the horrors that await.
Title: Re: Alien: Covenant TV Spots
Post by: Adorianu on Apr 04, 2017, 10:00:04 AM
Quote from: locusta on Apr 04, 2017, 09:55:50 AM
Wow, guys. No need to freaking go into a fight because of something so obvious in all the business these days.

These trailer materials are some times month apart from creation. All latest movies teaser, first and second Trailer and then the final film have huge differences. Especially the CGI.

As an explanation, why the Xeno looks not only different because of the updated lightning of the scene, is the level of displacement mapping (look it here up: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Displacement_mapping)

The first renders have to be done quick and high settings of displacement are heavy on render time. Even my models differ by settings from half an hour per frame up to 4 h! Of course a house like MPC has huge render farms and can facilitate data we can´t even imagine, but this process takes just huge amount of time and marketing is doing it´s own thing along that.

Other reason as well, sometimes they even change the render engine. So the first footage might have been on a more light level (some even use Unreal Engine and similar) and the end render in final quality is Render Man. Huge difference of appearance.

For example, Guardians of the Galaxy use two different CGI studios to do Rocket Raccoon and Groot. As well they used different render engines. Trick is the end comp and grading.

And for the guys wondering why the ship changed, this is full CG scene. No ship, no sky, no Alien. Full out of the tin. And there will be plenty of those.

And now let´s enjoy the last 45 days of waiting time :D

Amen.
Title: Re: Alien: Covenant TV Spots
Post by: Pvt. Himmel on Apr 04, 2017, 10:00:59 AM
Love the music in this one... very fitting. 8)
Title: Re: Alien: Covenant TV Spots
Post by: x-M-x on Apr 04, 2017, 10:15:09 AM
They turned on/activated the hologram recording, and find a human woman (shaw) working the controls of that chair (obvious) getting orders help from David - the crew don't know it's shaw though (not yet anyway)

she steps in the pilot chair and takes off.


Maybe this could only be the cameo of shaw (a hologram)  :-\

Title: Re: Alien: Covenant TV Spots
Post by: RidgeTop on Apr 04, 2017, 10:16:42 AM
Honestly I'm thinking they might have added too much detail, kinda just looks like exposed muscle now. Yes, I'm being nitpicky, but looking at that close up comparison, those muscle fibers are pretty prominent.
Title: Re: Alien: Covenant TV Spots
Post by: Pvt. Himmel on Apr 04, 2017, 10:22:26 AM
Quote from: RidgeTop on Apr 04, 2017, 10:16:42 AM
Honestly I'm thinking they might have added too much detail, kinda just looks like exposed muscle now.

What??
Title: Re: Alien: Covenant TV Spots
Post by: Russ840 on Apr 04, 2017, 10:25:26 AM
Quote from: RidgeTop on Apr 04, 2017, 10:16:42 AM
Honestly I'm thinking they might have added too much detail, kinda just looks like exposed muscle now.

I think it will look great in motion. There's probably more differences that will be present in the released movie.

Saying that. Some parts do look fiberous
Title: Re: Alien: Covenant TV Spots
Post by: RidgeTop on Apr 04, 2017, 10:28:04 AM
Just noticing it, not forming an opinion on the design or anything yet. Before it looked like it had "skin" now it looks like exposed musculature.

(https://media.giphy.com/media/k4M3po6DqkRva/giphy.gif)

Quote from: AXOR on Apr 04, 2017, 09:35:10 AM
ARE WE ACTUALLY ANALYSING THE WIDTH OF THE ALIEN'S WRIST, OR HOW DEEP IT'S ELBOW GOES....PLEASE. THIS IS GETTING RIDICULOUS. I am a huge fan, and much prefer it when the design of the creature stays closer to that of the first two movies, ideally the first one. But really, I mean really picking apart details mentioned by me previously, that's ludicrous.

Well, we do happen to be Alien nerds. Remember Anchorpoint Essays? That was speculation and analysis of the Xenomorph on a molecular level. Shit got deep. 
Title: Re: Alien: Covenant TV Spots
Post by: Pvt. Himmel on Apr 04, 2017, 10:31:48 AM
I don't know if this one has been posted it seems to be a longer version of "Take me Home" and it show a little bit more of Shaw.

https://www.instagram.com/p/BSci8qrFfH3/?hl=en (https://www.instagram.com/p/BSci8qrFfH3/?hl=en)
Title: Re: Alien: Covenant TV Spots
Post by: Evanus on Apr 04, 2017, 10:34:00 AM
Yep, that was already posted.

Man, it's actually really creepy. I wonder what exactly happened to Shaw.
Title: Re: Alien: Covenant TV Spots
Post by: DendaReloaded on Apr 04, 2017, 10:47:11 AM
probs she trying to escape the planet after david landed on it, given the fact that she couldn't pilot it from lv-423. anyways im mildly pissed off about her being killed off.
Title: Re: Alien: Covenant TV Spots
Post by: zoidy on Apr 04, 2017, 11:04:36 AM
Has anybody worked out where the vinyl is actually playing? The scene shows the valley outside. But the only ship that lands in that location as far as we know is the Covenant lander. So is that on the Convenant lander? Seems unlikely? Is it on the juggernaut? I'm confused.  ;D
Title: Re: Alien: Covenant TV Spots
Post by: RidgeTop on Apr 04, 2017, 11:05:31 AM
Quote from: zoidy on Apr 04, 2017, 11:04:36 AM
Has anybody worked out where the vinyl is actually playing? The scene shows the valley outside. But the only ship that lands in that location as far as we know is the Covenant lander. So is that on the Convenant lander? Seems unlikely? Is it on the juggernaut? I'm confused.  ;D

Pretty sure that's a cabin on the lander.
Title: Re: Alien: Covenant TV Spots
Post by: SpeedyMaxx on Apr 04, 2017, 11:08:53 AM
Not sure whether it's just a full detail render or a specific cosmetic choice - I suspect the latter - but I preferred the smoother head on the alien. Reminded me of the original film and Badejo's suit design.
Title: Re: Alien: Covenant TV Spots
Post by: zoidy on Apr 04, 2017, 11:10:58 AM
Quote from: RidgeTop on Apr 04, 2017, 11:05:31 AM
Quote from: zoidy on Apr 04, 2017, 11:04:36 AM
Has anybody worked out where the vinyl is actually playing? The scene shows the valley outside. But the only ship that lands in that location as far as we know is the Covenant lander. So is that on the Convenant lander? Seems unlikely? Is it on the juggernaut? I'm confused.  ;D

Pretty sure that's a cabin on the lander.
Makes sense, not sure why or even how they are then playing the same record. I'm probably over thinking it. Just go with it!   ;D
Title: Re: Alien: Covenant TV Spots
Post by: fernandito on Apr 04, 2017, 11:11:26 AM
hadn't seen the instagram longer version. Yes it is indeed Shaw, but does she look changed or something?

I can't see it full size on instagram though. Is that the way in that web?, how can you watch it full size?
Title: Re: Alien: Covenant TV Spots
Post by: DendaReloaded on Apr 04, 2017, 11:18:43 AM
https://www.instagram.com/p/BSci8qrFfH3/?taken-by=alienanthology ???

u can enhance it but quality stays as shitty as on mobile. the sites that took that footage didnt get it in any better quality
Title: Re: Alien: Covenant TV Spots
Post by: fernandito on Apr 04, 2017, 11:22:20 AM
Thanks for reply. Still can't see it full screen there regardless the low quality
Title: Re: Alien: Covenant TV Spots
Post by: DendaReloaded on Apr 04, 2017, 11:27:00 AM
thats why i said enhance, like ctrl++ or whatever its on windows. tried to get some detail out of it but failed as well.
Title: Re: Alien: Covenant TV Spots
Post by: markweatherill on Apr 04, 2017, 11:46:29 AM
Quote from: zoidy on Apr 04, 2017, 11:04:36 AM
vinyl

...in 2103, apparently. Who do we imagine this bright pink record belongs to? Or are all records this colour in the future?

Hey, I wonder what format Capt.Dallas' classical music collection was stored on?
Title: Re: Alien: Covenant TV Spots
Post by: fiveways on Apr 04, 2017, 11:55:58 AM
Quote from: DendaReloaded on Apr 04, 2017, 10:47:11 AM
probs she trying to escape the planet after david landed on it, given the fact that she couldn't pilot it from lv-423. anyways im mildly pissed off about her being killed off.

Spoiler
She's the reason the Juggernaut is crashed is the angle i am currently going with.  She destroys it so he can't leave and destroy other worlds and pays for it.
[close]

Title: Re: Alien: Covenant TV Spots
Post by: cliffhanger on Apr 04, 2017, 11:59:52 AM
where does the assumption somebody's playing vinyl come from? because we hear it during the trailer? people, that's trailer music.
because she's singing it? i have it on mp3 on my pc, why can't it be her favourite?

anyway, i recall that on a intergalactic message shaw was singing this and walter heared this and therefore diverted to the location, so it must be this.


my bad, i thought it was a piece of art as a plate, i feel stupid now lol.

anyway, there's definately something portruding through shaw. so sad :(
possibly happened after docking with the other ship? that's defo not going to be david who does that.
looks like a queen tail. or a spear?
Title: Re: Alien: Covenant TV Spots
Post by: Predaker on Apr 04, 2017, 12:06:25 PM
Quote from: fiveways on Apr 04, 2017, 11:55:58 AM
Quote from: DendaReloaded on Apr 04, 2017, 10:47:11 AM
probs she trying to escape the planet after david landed on it, given the fact that she couldn't pilot it from lv-423. anyways im mildly pissed off about her being killed off.

Spoiler
She's the reason the Juggernaut is crashed is the angle i am currently going with.  She destroys it so he can't leave and destroy other worlds and pays for it.
[close]

They'll probably be ambiguous about this, as Scott talked about Covenant having various threads for sequels. So it'll be implied she crashed the ship for some reason but I don't think we will actually see any of that, just assumed she is dead or at least missing.
Title: Re: Alien: Covenant TV Spots
Post by: fiveways on Apr 04, 2017, 12:07:10 PM
Quote from: cliffhanger on Apr 04, 2017, 11:59:52 AM
where does the assumption somebody's playing vinyl come from? because we hear it during the trailer? people, that's trailer music.
because she's singing it? i have it on mp3 on my pc, why can't it be her favourite?

anyway, i recall that on a intergalactic message shaw was singing this and walter heared this and therefore diverted to the location, so it must be this.

The shot of the red record playing in both the "take me home" trailers.  It's more an observation that vinyl still exists in that time frame.

Title: Re: Alien: Covenant TV Spots
Post by: SpeedyMaxx on Apr 04, 2017, 12:08:49 PM
I don't expect to ever see Shaw again after this movie.
Title: Re: Alien: Covenant TV Spots
Post by: fiveways on Apr 04, 2017, 12:16:44 PM
Quote from: markweatherill on Apr 04, 2017, 11:46:29 AM
Quote from: zoidy on Apr 04, 2017, 11:04:36 AM
vinyl

...in 2103, apparently. Who do we imagine this bright pink record belongs to? Or are all records this colour in the future?

Hey, I wonder what format Capt.Dallas' classical music collection was stored on?

Records come in a variety of colours and splatters.  Maybe they're listening to the limited reissue of Boris's Pink or the Southern Lord version from 2007.



Title: Re: Alien: Covenant TV Spots
Post by: KillCrites on Apr 04, 2017, 01:04:56 PM
Anyone else notice how in the last few seconds we see Shaw's hologram it looks like something is coming out of her back?
Title: Re: Alien: Covenant TV Spots
Post by: SpeedyMaxx on Apr 04, 2017, 01:08:49 PM
Oh, I do see that better now. Could be something as it appears to be a definite and distinct motion. I don't think it's coming out of her back, though it could be coming out of her - but it also could be part of the distortion or some other activity we don't see clearly at that angle.
Title: Re: Alien: Covenant TV Spots
Post by: hfeldhaus on Apr 04, 2017, 01:19:08 PM
It's the hologram highlighting the chair edge.
Title: Re: Alien: Covenant TV Spots
Post by: ChrisPachi on Apr 04, 2017, 01:36:43 PM
(https://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fcoinbox.com.au%2Fforty%2Flegit.jpg&hash=169c009b81fc1f5b61a9ef6da8a362cfee3d439d)

LEGIT
Title: Re: Alien: Covenant TV Spots
Post by: KillCrites on Apr 04, 2017, 03:36:31 PM
Quote from: hfeldhaus on Apr 04, 2017, 01:19:08 PM
It's the hologram highlighting the chair edge.
You're right.
Title: Re: Alien: Covenant TV Spots
Post by: Predaker on Apr 04, 2017, 03:55:12 PM
Quote from: KillCrites on Apr 04, 2017, 03:36:31 PM
Quote from: hfeldhaus on Apr 04, 2017, 01:19:08 PM
It's the hologram highlighting the chair edge.
You're right.

Nonsense. It has to be a tube in her back turning Shaw into the biomechanoid neo proto Alien queen. Where else could David have gotten those eggs from?
Title: Re: Alien: Covenant TV Spots
Post by: rabidranger on Apr 04, 2017, 03:57:31 PM
I guess it's possible Shaw became "ill" while on the ship, engineered it's crash on Paradise while David bombs it (probably a betrayal to her), survives the crash, and then completes her transformation at some point?
Title: Re: Alien: Covenant TV Spots
Post by: Evanus on Apr 04, 2017, 03:58:53 PM
Quote from: Predaker on Apr 04, 2017, 03:55:12 PM
Quote from: KillCrites on Apr 04, 2017, 03:36:31 PM
Quote from: hfeldhaus on Apr 04, 2017, 01:19:08 PM
It's the hologram highlighting the chair edge.
You're right.

Nonsense. It has to be a tube in her back turning Shaw into the biomechanoid neo proto Alien queen. Where else could David have gotten those eggs from?
Uh, luckily that's not gonna happen.  :D

It's probably just the hologram wave thing that she activates.
Title: Re: Alien: Covenant TV Spots
Post by: cliffhanger on Apr 04, 2017, 04:18:42 PM
Quote from: hfeldhaus on Apr 04, 2017, 01:19:08 PM
It's the hologram highlighting the chair edge.

had to look a hundred times to be sure but you're right. uff. makes me feel so much better now! i really hope shaw doesn't get some nasty fate.
Title: Re: Alien: Covenant TV Spots
Post by: lv_226 on Apr 04, 2017, 04:58:38 PM
It's just the chair....
Title: Re: Alien: Covenant TV Spots
Post by: fernandito on Apr 04, 2017, 05:04:51 PM
weeell welll it's the chair

..
Title: Re: Alien: Covenant TV Spots
Post by: Evanus on Apr 04, 2017, 05:07:40 PM
I'm pretty sure it's the hologram wave being spread over the chair, not the chair itself.
Title: Re: Alien: Covenant TV Spots
Post by: rabidranger on Apr 04, 2017, 05:10:22 PM
Shaw is apparently not well when recording that transmission-correct?
Title: Re: Alien: Covenant TV Spots
Post by: The Eighth Passenger on Apr 04, 2017, 05:59:29 PM
Quote from: markweatherill on Apr 04, 2017, 11:46:29 AM
Quote from: zoidy on Apr 04, 2017, 11:04:36 AM
vinyl

...in 2103, apparently. Who do we imagine this bright pink record belongs to?

Why, Tennessee of course.  ;)

QuoteHey, I wonder what format Capt.Dallas' classical music collection was stored on?

According to Alien: Isolation, early 80's style audio-cassette boom boxes.
Title: Re: Alien: Covenant TV Spots
Post by: Pvt. Himmel on Apr 04, 2017, 06:11:46 PM
www.youtube.com/watch?v=wPnI3JEElcY (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wPnI3JEElcY)
Title: Re: Alien: Covenant TV Spots
Post by: lv_226 on Apr 04, 2017, 06:14:36 PM
Quote from: Pvt. Himmel on Apr 04, 2017, 06:11:46 PM
www.youtube.com/watch?v=wPnI3JEElcY (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wPnI3JEElcY)

Is this from a scified affiliate account (before I click)?
Title: Re: Alien: Covenant TV Spots
Post by: Pvt. Himmel on Apr 04, 2017, 06:15:40 PM
No.
Title: Re: Alien: Covenant TV Spots
Post by: lv_226 on Apr 04, 2017, 08:12:28 PM
Quote from: Pvt. Himmel on Apr 04, 2017, 06:15:40 PM
No.
Awesome, thx!
Title: Re: Alien: Covenant TV Spots
Post by: Pvt. Himmel on Apr 04, 2017, 11:30:15 PM
This shot appears to be obviously not on the drop ship!! And what's moving beneath the water?? Could there have been another crew that came before, and would explain how David has different clothes than from Prometheus outfit and also the writing supplies is a clear sign of others that came before.

(https://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.alien-covenant.com%2Faliencovenant_uploads%2FVmzKlW.gif&hash=87e7c9ce0b1229477e12d99058ae23ebf656c1b1)

I guarantee Awakening will tell of what happened here.... Any bets. 8)
Title: Re: Alien: Covenant TV Spots
Post by: SpeedyMaxx on Apr 04, 2017, 11:32:24 PM
It's from the dropship, dude.
Title: Re: Alien: Covenant TV Spots
Post by: Pvt. Himmel on Apr 04, 2017, 11:34:25 PM
Quote from: SpeedyMaxx on Apr 04, 2017, 11:32:24 PM
It's from the dropship, dude.

Why would a drop ship have a room like that?? With a record player.
Title: Re: Alien: Covenant TV Spots
Post by: SpeedyMaxx on Apr 04, 2017, 11:36:09 PM
Quote from: Pvt. Himmel on Apr 04, 2017, 11:34:25 PM
Quote from: SpeedyMaxx on Apr 04, 2017, 11:32:24 PM
It's from the dropship, dude.

Why would a drop ship have a room like that?? With a record player.

Because some people (like Faris) spend a lot of time on the ship/lander just chilling out and minding the controls while other people explore the planet's surface. Presumably this would be the same when they touched down on their colony world - a lot of downtime while the colony team does its work.
Title: Re: Alien: Covenant TV Spots
Post by: Pvt. Himmel on Apr 05, 2017, 12:05:44 AM
Quote from: SpeedyMaxx on Apr 04, 2017, 11:36:09 PM
Quote from: Pvt. Himmel on Apr 04, 2017, 11:34:25 PM
Quote from: SpeedyMaxx on Apr 04, 2017, 11:32:24 PM
It's from the dropship, dude.

Why would a drop ship have a room like that?? With a record player.

Because some people (like Faris) spend a lot of time on the ship/lander just chilling out and minding the controls while other people explore the planet's surface. Presumably this would be the same when they touched down on their colony world - a lot of downtime while the colony team does its work.

You may be right, but I don't know... Hmm.
Title: Re: Alien: Covenant TV Spots
Post by: fiveways on Apr 05, 2017, 03:04:42 AM
Quote from: The Eighth Passenger on Apr 04, 2017, 05:59:29 PM
Quote from: markweatherill on Apr 04, 2017, 11:46:29 AM
Quote from: zoidy on Apr 04, 2017, 11:04:36 AM
vinyl

...in 2103, apparently. Who do we imagine this bright pink record belongs to?

Why, Tennessee of course.  ;)

QuoteHey, I wonder what format Capt.Dallas' classical music collection was stored on?

According to Alien: Isolation, early 80's style audio-cassette boom boxes.

Nothing wrong with cassettes if it is a good transfer with decent noise reduction and you have a quality tape deck.
Title: Re: Alien: Covenant TV Spots
Post by: cliffhanger on Apr 05, 2017, 09:13:56 AM
Quote from: Pvt. Himmel on Apr 04, 2017, 11:34:25 PM
Quote from: SpeedyMaxx on Apr 04, 2017, 11:32:24 PM
It's from the dropship, dude.

Why would a drop ship have a room like that?? With a record player.

a good point made i must say. the dropship doesn't look that big, but we can be mistaken. obviously, it's bigger than we think as it has a medbay, which isnt particularly small, and there's a hallway/corridor where one of the guys runs away from the medbay. also, aboard, there is some cargo bay of sorts where she shoots at the neomorph and destroys the ship. there's also the cockpit itself, so it's bigger than we assume perhaps. it's not a star-trek shuttle size ship.

i must say that when looking at the hull door opening up and looking at it from outside, it looks much smaller again. it's confusing.

but even then, there's something to look into though. you notice clearly the wheat fields from the window, and the lake ,and some mountain ridge.
if we then look outside of the ship, where it then should be facing, we see no window like that at all.

matter of fact, if we look at both sides of the ship, one is visible on the ground, the other side is visible whilst going through the atmosphere,
and we see not a single window like that anywhere on the ship. also, i find it hard to believe where it would fit.

the ship is going through some rough rides entereing the atmosphere and then landing, so a vinyl album player working flawlessly is odd to start with.
also, it seems they disembark rather quickly after landing. who's quarters would it be, captains? where would the rest reside? but we also see everybody disembarking, so who would stay behind to play the record and overlook the area, and why?

i agree somethings off about it. whether it's continuity error already, or something else entirely, i don't know. it's odd either way.
Title: Re: Alien: Covenant TV Spots
Post by: SpeedyMaxx on Apr 05, 2017, 11:44:51 AM
Dude, you are seriously overthinking a miniscule amount of footage seen from the trailer and TV spots. We have zero way of orienting the ship's position on this planet based on what we have seen. We have not seen its full dimensions. You're making huge assumptions.

It is the lander/dropship and it is likely a record owned by Faris and Tennessee. Playing while Faris hangs out aboard the ship waiting on the landing party, just in time for Karine and the infected character to return in poor condition. That's it. Sometimes a cigar is just a cigar and this movie is just this movie. It seems like people want to super-complicate it just because they don't like that the entire plot has basically already leaked months ago.
Title: Re: Alien: Covenant TV Spots
Post by: fiveways on Apr 05, 2017, 12:23:34 PM
Quote from: Pvt. Himmel on Apr 05, 2017, 12:05:44 AM
Quote from: SpeedyMaxx on Apr 04, 2017, 11:36:09 PM
Quote from: Pvt. Himmel on Apr 04, 2017, 11:34:25 PM
Quote from: SpeedyMaxx on Apr 04, 2017, 11:32:24 PM
It's from the dropship, dude.

Why would a drop ship have a room like that?? With a record player.

Because some people (like Faris) spend a lot of time on the ship/lander just chilling out and minding the controls while other people explore the planet's surface. Presumably this would be the same when they touched down on their colony world - a lot of downtime while the colony team does its work.

You may be right, but I don't know... Hmm.

The hardest choice I would have to make if I was going on a mission like that isn't if I was taking a record player (that answer is yes), it is what records I would take with me.
Title: Re: Alien: Covenant TV Spots
Post by: Huggs on Apr 05, 2017, 03:56:41 PM
Danny McBride should launch into his Honey Mustard speech. "You're celebrating your doom!"  ;D
Now we know what happened in the great beyond.
Title: Re: Alien: Covenant TV Spots
Post by: cliffhanger on Apr 05, 2017, 07:36:37 PM
lyrics of the song are quite interesting too

Quote
Almost heaven,
Spoiler
paradise
[close]
Blue Ridge Mountains,
Life is old there,
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engineers/humanoid species
[close]
older than the trees, younger than the mountains, blowing like a breeze.

take me home to the place I belong.
Spoiler
earth
[close]

I hear her voice in the morning hour, she calls me,
Spoiler
shaw's radio message singing this song
[close]
the radio reminds me of my home far away.
Spoiler
earth,again
[close]
And driving down the road
Spoiler
en route to paradise or en route to fly off in the juggernaut
[close]
I get a feeling that I should have been home yesterday, yesterday.
Spoiler
she never should have gone there, like she said in prometheus; we were so wrong
[close]

how about that?
Title: Re: Alien: Covenant TV Spots
Post by: Ingwar on Apr 05, 2017, 07:47:42 PM
Quote from: cliffhanger on Apr 05, 2017, 07:36:37 PM
lyrics of the song are quite interesting too

Quote
Almost heaven,
Spoiler
paradise
[close]
Blue Ridge Mountains,
Life is old there,
Spoiler
engineers/humanoid species
[close]
older than the trees, younger than the mountains, blowing like a breeze.

take me home to the place I belong.
Spoiler
earth
[close]

I hear her voice in the morning hour, she calls me,
Spoiler
shaw's radio message singing this song
[close]
the radio reminds me of my home far away.
Spoiler
earth,again
[close]
And driving down the road
Spoiler
en route to paradise or en route to fly off in the juggernaut
[close]
I get a feeling that I should have been home yesterday, yesterday.
Spoiler
she never should have gone there, like she said in prometheus; we were so wrong
[close]

how about that?

Nice one!
Title: Re: Alien: Covenant TV Spots
Post by: ReluctantNerd on Apr 05, 2017, 07:50:18 PM
Home yesterday?
TIME TRAVEL ALERT!!  ;D
Title: Re: Alien: Covenant TV Spots
Post by: cliffhanger on Apr 05, 2017, 07:56:30 PM
Quote from: ReluctantNerd on Apr 05, 2017, 07:50:18 PM
Home yesterday?
TIME TRAVEL ALERT!!  ;D

space jockey fossilization in derelict explained!  :D
Title: Re: Alien: Covenant TV Spots
Post by: aliennaire on Apr 05, 2017, 09:11:53 PM
Quote from: cliffhanger on Apr 05, 2017, 07:56:30 PM
Quote from: ReluctantNerd on Apr 05, 2017, 07:50:18 PM
Home yesterday?
TIME TRAVEL ALERT!!  ;D
space jockey fossilization in derelict explained!  :D
Here we go again  ;) (I remember in the first rumoured spoilers for Prometheus, there was an allusion to harrowing time travel through a wormhole, but likely they were either scrapped out in the bud or just hearsays.)

Addressing the Shaw's singing in the latest TV spot, what if she deliberately re-programmed Juggernaut's controls activation to her voice?

As it has been revealed in the previous film, the Engineers - and David consequently - used to play a simple tune on the pipe to activate the console in the discovered ship. It won't be a far cry to presume that other Engineers' vessels also must have some sort of 'pass-tune' to gain control over them. And in the light of deteriorating Shaw and David relationship, she might have secured the Juggernaut's activation tune code to her voice solely, wishing to keep David away from wrecking even bigger havoc than he did on Paradise.

Well, this is a blind guess, I know  :)
Title: Re: Alien: Covenant TV Spots
Post by: Aliensfanboy on Apr 05, 2017, 09:56:53 PM
Awesome!!!! im really looking forward to this movie
Title: Re: Alien: Covenant TV Spots
Post by: juxtapose on Apr 06, 2017, 01:37:09 PM
Just finally got to download those tv spots. .and i am loving them all. .but whilst i was just reading about it. .i tried to imagine all the hatred towards the neomorph and the also the love. .and i was expecting at least a solid 3 or 4 seconds of footage. .turns out if you blink u miss it. .now people are complaining about textures and animation and the cgi looks fake and god knows what else. .how f**king ridiculous. .based on one split second?. .these people actually watch every movie at 10 percent of the normal play speed in order to form an opinion about the state of the cg?. .boggles my mind. .i loved it. .even at 33 percent play speed on vlc. .it only amounts to about 2 seconds. . .besides u not gonna have the luxury of slowing things down at the cinema when u go watch it. . Nit pickers paradice. .
Title: Re: Alien: Covenant TV Spots
Post by: Oblivion on Apr 06, 2017, 09:37:07 PM
Quote from: RidgeTop on Apr 04, 2017, 10:28:04 AM
Just noticing it, not forming an opinion on the design or anything yet. Before it looked like it had "skin" now it looks like exposed musculature.

https://media.giphy.com/media/k4M3po6DqkRva/giphy.gif

Quote from: AXOR on Apr 04, 2017, 09:35:10 AM
ARE WE ACTUALLY ANALYSING THE WIDTH OF THE ALIEN'S WRIST, OR HOW DEEP IT'S ELBOW GOES....PLEASE. THIS IS GETTING RIDICULOUS. I am a huge fan, and much prefer it when the design of the creature stays closer to that of the first two movies, ideally the first one. But really, I mean really picking apart details mentioned by me previously, that's ludicrous.

Well, we do happen to be Alien nerds. Remember Anchorpoint Essays? That was speculation and analysis of the Xenomorph on a molecular level. Shit got deep.

Do you have a link for the anchorpoint essay please? Or pm me. Thanks
Title: Re: Alien: Covenant TV Spots
Post by: Corporal Hicks on Apr 07, 2017, 07:21:40 AM
https://web.archive.org/web/20120423161337/http://www.anchorpointessays.com/

I wish this was still around.
Title: Re: Alien: Covenant TV Spots
Post by: Pvt. Himmel on Apr 07, 2017, 01:30:30 PM
A pic of Shaw in Hologram and it looks like she is
Spoiler

(https://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.scified.com%2Ftopics%2F2575508124591474.jpg&hash=3d8614aa2a0284706d01f79a0babc4dc64dee9d5)
looking up at possibly screen.. which means she is piloting the juggernaut.
[close]
Title: Re: Alien: Covenant TV Spots
Post by: shawsbaby on Apr 07, 2017, 02:28:01 PM
Quote from: Pvt. Himmel on Apr 07, 2017, 01:30:30 PM
A pic of Shaw in Hologram and it looks like she is
Spoiler

(https://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.scified.com%2Ftopics%2F2575508124591474.jpg&hash=3d8614aa2a0284706d01f79a0babc4dc64dee9d5)
looking up at possibly screen.. which means she is piloting the juggernaut.
[close]

Hmm. Now this makes me think it would make a lot of sense if, as some have suggested, Shaw
Spoiler
wakes up to find that David bombed the planet and purposely crashes them so he can't escape and start more trouble elsewhere
[close]
.
Title: Re: Alien: Covenant TV Spots
Post by: aliennaire on Apr 07, 2017, 04:43:44 PM
Quote from: Pvt. Himmel on Apr 07, 2017, 01:30:30 PM
A pic of Shaw in Hologram and it looks like she is
Spoiler

(https://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.scified.com%2Ftopics%2F2575508124591474.jpg&hash=3d8614aa2a0284706d01f79a0babc4dc64dee9d5)
looking up at possibly screen.. which means she is piloting the juggernaut.
[close]
Shouldn't the one
Spoiler
be seated in the pilot aka Space Jockey chair to fly the ship? She's possibly looking at the Orrery up in the air in front of her. Crudup was also looking up and in the same direction standing next to Shaw's hologram in the TV spot.
[close]
Title: Re: Alien: Covenant TV Spots
Post by: cliffhanger on Apr 07, 2017, 09:50:29 PM
that's why she'll simply start up the thing through that seat and map out a course, then get to the space jockey seat where she steps into one of the space jockey suits which are huge but usable, and then sit into the seat where she will get chestbursted leading into lv-426 jockey (which would somehow be awesome but still not cool in retconning the thousand years old fossilization comment, but well). she wanted to go home quickly because of the 'impregnation' of the chestburster host.
Title: Re: Alien: Covenant TV Spots
Post by: prometheusfire08 on Apr 07, 2017, 11:09:15 PM
thousand year fossilized comment ?

Dallas just comments it looks fossilized , like it had grown out of the chair .

and in all honesty , he had no clue what he was talking about .
Title: Re: Alien: Covenant TV Spots
Post by: acrediblesource on Apr 10, 2017, 12:06:15 AM
I think this scene will possibly be the most disturbing part in A:Cov.
a. Shaw could be dead
b. Shaw could have been a victim of Davids experiment
c. From one of the screenshots of the hologram, it looks like she's wearing a mask as her face has no details to be seen,
d. I think i saw an engineer's face slightly in one of the frames where he face should be,hense she could have been brutally mutilated.
Title: Re: Alien: Covenant TV Spots
Post by: ChrisPachi on Apr 10, 2017, 11:13:37 AM
Quote from: RidgeTop on Apr 04, 2017, 10:28:04 AMJust noticing it, not forming an opinion on the design or anything yet. Before it looked like it had "skin" now it looks like exposed musculature.

https://media.giphy.com/media/k4M3po6DqkRva/giphy.gif

It's a common condition that affects most I. raptus variants prior to 1995: Imperfectum Figmentum.
Title: Re: Alien: Covenant TV Spots
Post by: Necronomicon II on Apr 10, 2017, 12:14:59 PM
I've been wondering how they're going to handle the derelict pilot, like, he could be some freakish mutant - courtesy of the goo - where suit and body intermeshed; where there'd be no way to separate body and suit tech. So, for all intents and purposes, he would become an elephantine being.
Title: Re: Alien: Covenant TV Spots
Post by: fernandito on Apr 10, 2017, 12:27:31 PM
Quote from: ChrisPachi on Apr 10, 2017, 11:13:37 AM
I. raptus
? what?

edit:

Quote from: Necronomicon II on Apr 10, 2017, 12:14:59 PM
I've been wondering how they're going to handle the derelict pilot, like, he could be some freakish mutant - courtesy of the goo - where suit and body intermeshed; where there'd be no way to separate body and suit tech. So, for all intents and purposes, he would become an elephantine being.
don't worry they still have the even way more difficult_bordering on the impossible task of explaining how the heck one of the two dwarfs, either shaw or david it doesn't matter managed to sit on a chair designed to three meters tall beings, reach the helmet zone in order to engage the systems and get wrapped in by the SJ suit, all along for then finally be able to taking off.

Note that all sorts of advanced technology DNA checks and what not that should be expected in such piece of unbelievable machinery the derelict-type ships are, built by a totally superior to us species have been left out of the equation, just for being merciful at them writers lol.  Plus of course the "David is so smart that understands how the systems work by only looking at the engineer managing stuff", being given an "ok-ish" attitude, just for the LoLz.

The explanation they will have to come up with will be laughable, one way or another. Can't wait. Popcorn diet awaits
Title: Re: Alien: Covenant TV Spots
Post by: Necronomicon II on Apr 10, 2017, 01:23:41 PM
Maybe their craft is more of an auto, with seat adjustment  :P, but I doubt there's gas peddles at the bottom of the pilot chair, and there's buttons perfectly within reach. David seemed to interact fine with the control board, for instance, just punch in an auto pilot course to paradise and walah. Now, that's awfully convenient, but if there was a scenario where the pilot was injured - or had to travel a long, long way - then he'd punch the autopilot and enter cryo just like on any reasonably advanced craft. As for landing and maneuvering, yeah, don't know, maybe an adjustable seat.   ;D
Title: Re: Alien: Covenant TV Spots
Post by: Corporal Hicks on Apr 10, 2017, 01:52:02 PM
Quote from: fernandito on Apr 10, 2017, 12:27:31 PM
Quote from: ChrisPachi on Apr 10, 2017, 11:13:37 AM
I. raptus
? what?

Internecivus raptus

Another name for the Alien. From the Quadrilogy iirc.
Title: Re: Alien: Covenant TV Spots
Post by: cliffhanger on Apr 10, 2017, 05:04:32 PM
Yep, the Latin name for the Xenomorph.
Title: Re: Alien: Covenant TV Spots
Post by: Ultramorph on Apr 10, 2017, 06:30:19 PM
There's also Linguafoeda Acheronsis.
Title: Re: Alien: Covenant TV Spots
Post by: bunnyavpg on Apr 14, 2017, 01:45:24 AM
In 'take me home' the shot of the room with the record player - where is it? The Covenant Lander is too small to house such a room and there are none of those hexagonal ports visible on the craft. Also the room is too 'homely' for a mere shuttlecraft, it reminds me a bit of Shaw's quarters on the Prometheus.
Title: Re: Alien: Covenant TV Spots
Post by: SpeedyMaxx on Apr 14, 2017, 04:36:47 AM
Quote from: bunnyavpg on Apr 14, 2017, 01:45:24 AM
In 'take me home' the shot of the room with the record player - where is it? The Covenant Lander is too small to house such a room and there are none of those hexagonal ports visible on the craft.

We know this how?

Quote from: Necronomicon II on Apr 10, 2017, 12:14:59 PM
I've been wondering how they're going to handle the derelict pilot, like, he could be some freakish mutant - courtesy of the goo - where suit and body intermeshed; where there'd be no way to separate body and suit tech. So, for all intents and purposes, he would become an elephantine being.

They already handled this in Prometheus. The flight suit fuses with the user's body (in this case, a very large Engineer). After millions of years dead the result looks like we found in Alien.

May not be the explanation someone likes to hear, but it's very clearly what was given.
Title: Re: Alien: Covenant TV Spots
Post by: windebieste on Apr 14, 2017, 05:37:54 AM
It may not even take millions of years.   We may have to accept it possibly takes just a few decades.   

Given the hostile nature of Acheron's climate, anything left in the open won't last long.  Anyone who's parked a car un-garaged will tell you it turns to shit after a few years.  Add LV-426 abrasive weather systems and anything will be degraded - even if it is tucked away inside the derelict. 

The Space Jockey is no doubt a deceased Engineer - that's been established and anyone hoping it's some goofy elephantine ET is out of touch with the way the series is developing.  Aas to how long it's actually been there, well, it may range from a few decades to a few millennia.  The door is still open on the duration.

'ALIEN: Covenant' may have the answer to this question - or maybe the next film will...

-Windebieste.
Title: Re: Alien: Covenant TV Spots
Post by: SpeedyMaxx on Apr 14, 2017, 05:47:02 AM
AFAIC the Engineer on LV-426 has been there millennia as Scott's always indicated in the past. Just another infected Engineer with his payload, just like what we saw on 223 and likely other satellite worlds. I think that's the angle Prometheus indicated as well. It was plenty for me, I was fine with it.

That being said, Ridley seems keen to change a lot of things starting with AC and I don't have full faith he won't change this soon enough.
Title: Re: Alien: Covenant TV Spots
Post by: Necronomicon II on Apr 14, 2017, 06:13:26 AM
Well given that Ridley has a penchant for changing things, and how originally he had not intended to move directly into Alien back when he wanted to tangentially move further away, then I expect some explanation as to why this particular engineer was larger than those we've seen (genetically enhanced, perhaps?) and piloting a much more biomechanically designed juggernaut (older model?), these things won't be glossed over if Ridley intends to come in at the back end, thus how they'll handle it will be interesting. Again, I'm not hoping for an actual elephantine being, just pointing out that if the pilot's suit is completely enmeshed with its body then it became an elephantine looking creature/corpse, not that it was an elephantine being in actuality prior, and this is something they could play with if the suit was affected by the accelerant in some way, it'd be a pretty cool compromise. It could just be how the suits deteriorate, but yeah, there's some room to play around there potentially. Personally I'd prefer if the derelict was very ancient, perhaps we may see more of it; other chambers, etc, but given the climate on 426 then yeah, I could live with it not being ancient.




Title: Re: Alien: Covenant TV Spots
Post by: SpeedyMaxx on Apr 14, 2017, 06:40:59 AM
In the original Spaihts script the flight suit is more specifically fused. In the final film of Prometheus it's only insinuated visually to the audience, but it's the same principle and that is all that is intended - to reveal this is the same suit the space jockey wore because the space jockey is an Engineer too, and the Engineer is very large in stature and the dead one in Alien has been there rotting/fusing even more for millions of years - i.e., this is how the space jockey looks the way he does. The end.

As for the juggernaut, it is the exact same type of ship as the derelict and the derelict is the exact same type of ship as the juggernaut. The end.

Honestly, you're overthinking very minor changes in overall design between movies made over 30 years apart. This is what it is and this is what it's likely going to stay. It's possible they may or may not change who is in the suit on LV-426 - I doubt that, honestly - but as to how the suit got that way, whether it's the same type of suit as Prometheus, same type of ship, that's not gonna change. Prometheus told people what it was about and hardcore fans on this forum have been pretending slight design tweaks to the look of the ship and the suit make them different ever since. It's not going to happen.
Title: Re: Alien: Covenant TV Spots
Post by: Necronomicon II on Apr 14, 2017, 07:01:52 AM
I agree the differences in design aesthetic between ships are minor and I could very well be overthinking the more biomechanical elements of the derelict's architecture, sure, wishful thinking be damned, as I said it could just be part of an older fleet of ships, and that'd be fine, and perhaps some engineers were just a little larger than others; owing to genetic variance, etc, all fine. It's more that Chris Seagers stated that they're edging into the biomechanical aesthetic as far as the beast is concerned, and I'm just pondering the possibilities as far as how the derelict et al may figure into that.
Title: Re: Alien: Covenant TV Spots
Post by: Ingwar on Apr 18, 2017, 03:33:22 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mdMpBvIvenA (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mdMpBvIvenA)
Title: Re: Alien: Covenant TV Spots
Post by: Ultramorph on Apr 18, 2017, 03:36:32 PM
Nice!
Title: Re: Alien: Covenant TV Spots
Post by: Pvt. Himmel on Apr 18, 2017, 03:38:07 PM
Thanks Ingwar!! 8)
Title: Re: Alien: Covenant TV Spots
Post by: SpeedyMaxx on Apr 18, 2017, 03:38:15 PM
That's a great spot. And the neomorph looks good.
Title: Re: Alien: Covenant TV Spots
Post by: SuicideDoors on Apr 18, 2017, 03:44:44 PM
It's going from strength to strength, some of the marketing material has been fantastic. The footage looks so so good.
Title: Re: Alien: Covenant TV Spots
Post by: salomonj on Apr 18, 2017, 03:54:50 PM
That was awesome.

That brief shot of the xenomorph is the best one yet.
Title: Re: Alien: Covenant TV Spots
Post by: Corporal Hicks on Apr 18, 2017, 03:58:49 PM
Thanks for sharing. I'm just on my way home so will post up shortly.
Title: Re: Alien: Covenant TV Spots
Post by: Ingwar on Apr 18, 2017, 04:03:42 PM
It's too bad it's only 720p.
Title: Re: Alien: Covenant TV Spots
Post by: Citadel on Apr 18, 2017, 04:15:24 PM
The xenomorph looks INCREDIBLE in that shot.
Title: Re: Alien: Covenant TV Spots
Post by: Corporal Hicks on Apr 18, 2017, 04:16:14 PM


Tennesse spot.



Proud spot.
Title: Re: Alien: Covenant TV Spots
Post by: Citadel on Apr 18, 2017, 04:19:21 PM
Looking at these, I'm quite confident that Ridley has achieved something I never thought: the alien is actually scary again after so many years of misuse. Bar Isolation, of course.
Title: Re: Alien: Covenant TV Spots
Post by: Corporal Hicks on Apr 18, 2017, 04:19:55 PM
Merged with existing tv spot thread.
Title: Re: Alien: Covenant TV Spots
Post by: Ingwar on Apr 18, 2017, 04:21:48 PM
Inner jaw confirmed :)
Title: Re: Alien: Covenant TV Spots
Post by: SpeedyMaxx on Apr 18, 2017, 04:52:19 PM
It looks gorgeous.
Title: Re: Alien: Covenant TV Spots
Post by: Predaker on Apr 18, 2017, 04:53:23 PM
Saw one of these during the NBA playoffs yesterday. Love the new clip of the alien.
Title: Re: Alien: Covenant TV Spots
Post by: Whos_Nick on Apr 18, 2017, 04:57:53 PM
Why is the quality so bad?  ???
Title: Re: Alien: Covenant TV Spots
Post by: cliffhanger on Apr 18, 2017, 05:33:03 PM
Quote from: Citadel on Apr 18, 2017, 04:19:21 PM
Looking at these, I'm quite confident that Ridley has achieved something I never thought: the alien is actually scary again after so many years of misuse. Bar Isolation, of course.

i'll be honest.
I loved Isolation.

But the Alien got boring and predictable after a while. Even if at times i didn't see it coming or it suddenly popped up at the wrong moment - for me- and i got 'frightened' for a moment, it got really 'same old' by the end of the game.
And visually, it got a bit boring too. I mean, it looked absolutely great and detailled, but i saw it so many times at certain point, and hiding became so easy at times that it just became a blur. In contrast, the working joes were much more disruptive and at times frightening.

The hive scene lightened it up a bit for me but after that again i was much more focused on getting to my objectives avoiding the working joes and keeping an eye out for the xeno, than being utterly scared at every tense moment whether or not the xeno would pop up and ruin my day.

I really would have preffered the working joes to be rather predictable compared to the xeno.
I think the story and the setting convinced me most about Isolation being a big success.

But i agree that the xeno is scary again.
Title: Re: Alien: Covenant TV Spots
Post by: davo1980 on Apr 18, 2017, 05:34:58 PM
Hi all - I made some more creature gifs from these latest clips:

Facehugger scamper:
Spoiler
(https://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi64.tinypic.com%2Fdxmkoo.gif&hash=b49d668a7a0f72ef8be8135b3b1ff5e1837b12f9)
[close]

Neomorph wrestling:
Spoiler
(https://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi65.tinypic.com%2F1zee1bk.gif&hash=5d91182794916d8313d1d787dc67ea14b311030e)
[close]

Xenomorph:
Spoiler
(https://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi68.tinypic.com%2F2v9w2he.gif&hash=6160b7e82af621e570a6401bb9fe4950c37c5e73)
[close]

Could that xenomorph be Javier Botet in a suit? There's something about the lighting that suggests it could be a practical effect.
What do we think?
Title: Re: Alien: Covenant TV Spots
Post by: Richman678 on Apr 18, 2017, 05:51:12 PM
Am I the only one thinking the CGI looks terrible????
Title: Re: Alien: Covenant TV Spots
Post by: salomonj on Apr 18, 2017, 05:56:49 PM
Quote from: Richman678 on Apr 18, 2017, 05:51:12 PM
Am I the only one thinking the CGI looks terrible????
Probably the only one, I think it looks perfect.
Title: Re: Alien: Covenant TV Spots
Post by: John Doe on Apr 18, 2017, 06:06:53 PM
Me too, i love the Facehugger.
Title: Re: Alien: Covenant TV Spots
Post by: Citadel on Apr 18, 2017, 06:10:39 PM
Quote from: cliffhanger on Apr 18, 2017, 05:33:03 PM
Quote from: Citadel on Apr 18, 2017, 04:19:21 PM
Looking at these, I'm quite confident that Ridley has achieved something I never thought: the alien is actually scary again after so many years of misuse. Bar Isolation, of course.

But the Alien got boring and predictable after a while. Even if at times i didn't see it coming or it suddenly popped up at the wrong moment - for me- and i got 'frightened' for a moment, it got really 'same old' by the end of the game.
And visually, it got a bit boring too. I mean, it looked absolutely great and detailled, but i saw it so many times at certain point, and hiding became so easy at times that it just became a blur. In contrast, the working joes were much more disruptive and at times frightening.

The working joes had me on edge. Constantly. The franchise really knows how to nail androids and unpredictability.

But yeah, there are moments in Isolation like that, but then you're rewarded with scenes like the derelict exploration. Everything about that was unsettling, and even the last half hour and the reveal/ending was done do well after such a grind through certain areas. I feel a sequel wouldn't work as efficiently unless it shook up a lot of Isolation's formula.

I'm just hoping the "xeno in broad daylight" sequence we're getting in Covenant doesn't undo everything that came before it, ie. what we're seeing in these spots.
Title: Re: Alien: Covenant TV Spots
Post by: D88M on Apr 18, 2017, 06:13:24 PM
no new footage of Neomorph
Title: Re: Alien: Covenant TV Spots
Post by: Predaker on Apr 18, 2017, 06:21:48 PM
Quote from: davo1980 on Apr 18, 2017, 05:34:58 PM
Hi all - I made some more creature gifs from these latest clips:

Facehugger scamper:
Spoiler
(https://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi64.tinypic.com%2Fdxmkoo.gif&hash=b49d668a7a0f72ef8be8135b3b1ff5e1837b12f9)
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Neomorph wrestling:
Spoiler
(https://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi65.tinypic.com%2F1zee1bk.gif&hash=5d91182794916d8313d1d787dc67ea14b311030e)
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Xenomorph:
Spoiler
(https://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi68.tinypic.com%2F2v9w2he.gif&hash=6160b7e82af621e570a6401bb9fe4950c37c5e73)
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Could that xenomorph be Javier Botet in a suit? There's something about the lighting that suggests it could be a practical effect.
What do we think?

Nice, thanks.

The alien looks CG to me. Javier Botet did motion capture and I doubt he wore any actual alien suit.
Title: Re: Alien: Covenant TV Spots
Post by: cliffhanger on Apr 18, 2017, 06:49:45 PM
Quote from: Citadel on Apr 18, 2017, 06:10:39 PM
Quote from: cliffhanger on Apr 18, 2017, 05:33:03 PM
Quote from: Citadel on Apr 18, 2017, 04:19:21 PM
Looking at these, I'm quite confident that Ridley has achieved something I never thought: the alien is actually scary again after so many years of misuse. Bar Isolation, of course.

But the Alien got boring and predictable after a while. Even if at times i didn't see it coming or it suddenly popped up at the wrong moment - for me- and i got 'frightened' for a moment, it got really 'same old' by the end of the game.
And visually, it got a bit boring too. I mean, it looked absolutely great and detailled, but i saw it so many times at certain point, and hiding became so easy at times that it just became a blur. In contrast, the working joes were much more disruptive and at times frightening.

The working joes had me on edge. Constantly. The franchise really knows how to nail androids and unpredictability.

But yeah, there are moments in Isolation like that, but then you're rewarded with scenes like the derelict exploration. Everything about that was unsettling, and even the last half hour and the reveal/ending was done do well after such a grind through certain areas. I feel a sequel wouldn't work as efficiently unless it shook up a lot of Isolation's formula.


It's exactly this sensation during the working joes that i relished even more than the alien, whilst it should have been vise versa imho.
exploring the derelict was fantastic, though i was huuuuuuuugely not entertained with deactivating the beacon. i also liked the ending, though i feel that the hive part was a bit of a buzzkill and the amount of aliens in the end. i enjoyed that it was just 1 alien f*cking things up, but i can also imagine that would be too much of a 1979 ripoff.

Title: Re: Alien: Covenant TV Spots
Post by: Xenomorphine on Apr 18, 2017, 06:50:41 PM
Quote from: Richman678 on Apr 18, 2017, 05:51:12 PM
Am I the only one thinking the CGI looks terrible????

The facehugger motion looks excellent (it's a bonier version of the familiar design), but it's possible that was a practical effect. CGI Alien still looks fake.
Title: Re: Alien: Covenant TV Spots
Post by: echobbase79 on Apr 18, 2017, 07:07:08 PM

I wonder if the shower scene used a CGI xeno?
Title: Re: Alien: Covenant TV Spots
Post by: Predaker on Apr 18, 2017, 07:29:42 PM
(https://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi64.tinypic.com%2Fdxmkoo.gif&hash=b49d668a7a0f72ef8be8135b3b1ff5e1837b12f9)

Look at how the left wall bends around the facehugger as it leaps into the shadows.

Alien spacetime warping confirmed.
Title: Re: Alien: Covenant TV Spots
Post by: Str1der on Apr 18, 2017, 07:31:05 PM
Can't tell if troll? ... or not?
Title: Re: Alien: Covenant TV Spots
Post by: Gazz on Apr 18, 2017, 07:35:47 PM
That's because it's not a wall but rather a cloth sheet.   :laugh:
Title: Re: Alien: Covenant TV Spots
Post by: Ingwar on Apr 18, 2017, 07:37:58 PM
Quote from: Predaker on Apr 18, 2017, 07:29:42 PM
(https://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi64.tinypic.com%2Fdxmkoo.gif&hash=b49d668a7a0f72ef8be8135b3b1ff5e1837b12f9)

Look at how the left wall bends around the facehugger as it leaps into the shadows.

Alien spacetime warping confirmed.

It's not a wall. It's just rag-alike curtain :)
Title: Re: Alien: Covenant TV Spots
Post by: locusta on Apr 18, 2017, 07:43:12 PM
It´s one of Davids huge sketches in his lab.
Title: Re: Alien: Covenant TV Spots
Post by: Predatorium on Apr 18, 2017, 07:44:16 PM
It's Xenotime! I'm so excited to see a Scott directed xeno again but I'm going on an airplane next week and I'm terrified of flying and think I'm going to die... I hope I live to see this movie... :(
Title: Re: Alien: Covenant TV Spots
Post by: shawsbaby on Apr 18, 2017, 09:20:48 PM
Wow, that second jaw is very evident in these new xeno shots.
Title: Re: Alien: Covenant TV Spots
Post by: Jpaley on Apr 18, 2017, 10:05:54 PM
the new neomorph footage is very brief at the 0.07 point in the blessed trailer.


No one noticed the burning alien in the first video?


No one noticed the burning alien in the first video?
Title: Re: Alien: Covenant TV Spots
Post by: ChrisPachi on Apr 19, 2017, 12:10:50 AM
Spoiler
(https://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi68.tinypic.com%2F2v9w2he.gif&hash=6160b7e82af621e570a6401bb9fe4950c37c5e73)
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If this is CG then it is good. I'm calling it a guy in a suit though. Check how the back tubes kind of bounce like they are rubber. Seems odd they would do that with CG.

Spoiler
(https://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi64.tinypic.com%2Fdxmkoo.gif&hash=b49d668a7a0f72ef8be8135b3b1ff5e1837b12f9)
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Definitely CG. And awesome.

So many aliens. So darn happy. ;D
Title: Re: Alien: Covenant TV Spots
Post by: KillCrites on Apr 19, 2017, 12:38:08 AM
All the aliens in these TV Spots look CG to me, but still look very nice. 
Title: Re: Alien: Covenant TV Spots
Post by: Scorpio on Apr 19, 2017, 12:51:12 AM
I want to see more scenes with the facehugger.  The scariest creature in the Alien films, yet we rarely see them.  That scene in Aliens with the 2 facehuggers is the most suspenseful scene in that movie.
Title: Re: Alien: Covenant TV Spots
Post by: Xeno_from_Chino on Apr 19, 2017, 01:00:53 AM
The Aliens are going to look more realistic in the actual movie, right? I'm a little concerned from what I've seen so far. It looks very CGI up to this point, bordering on Alien 3 CGI, and I don't mean the rod puppet effect.
Title: Re: Alien: Covenant TV Spots
Post by: NickisSmart on Apr 19, 2017, 01:11:33 AM



3 new TV spots for Alien: Covenant, to sink my teeth into.   

Audio might be slightly out of sync. Sorry about that.

Spoilers galore! :)
Title: Re: Alien: Covenant TV Spots
Post by: salomonj on Apr 19, 2017, 01:31:19 AM
Quote from: Scorpio on Apr 19, 2017, 12:51:12 AM
I want to see more scenes with the facehugger.  The scariest creature in the Alien films, yet we rarely see them.  That scene in Aliens with the 2 facehuggers is the most suspenseful scene in that movie.
Dude, I agree. That part was so intense.
Title: Re: Alien: Covenant TV Spots
Post by: Corporal Hicks on Apr 19, 2017, 06:57:07 AM
Quote from: Ingwar on Apr 18, 2017, 07:37:58 PM
Quote from: Predaker on Apr 18, 2017, 07:29:42 PM
(https://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi64.tinypic.com%2Fdxmkoo.gif&hash=b49d668a7a0f72ef8be8135b3b1ff5e1837b12f9)

Look at how the left wall bends around the facehugger as it leaps into the shadows.

Alien spacetime warping confirmed.

It's not a wall. It's just rag-alike curtain :)

That was hilarious until someone pointed out reality.  :laugh:

I think we've seen enough TV spots now though. It'd be nice if we don't get any more.
Title: Re: Alien: Covenant TV Spots
Post by: tuskhaus on Apr 19, 2017, 07:10:07 AM
Quote from: Corporal Hicks on Apr 19, 2017, 06:57:07 AM
I think we've seen enough TV spots now though. It'd be nice if we don't get any more.

Yeah, I agree. It's a lot, but they need it to do well. Kinda crazy that we only just got the first trailer three months and three weeks ago!

I expect a heavy push for promo material on Alien Day, though.
Title: Re: Alien: Covenant TV Spots
Post by: Corporal Hicks on Apr 19, 2017, 07:17:08 AM
Quote from: CoalescedChaos on Apr 19, 2017, 07:10:07 AM
I expect a heavy push for promo material on Alien Day, though.

Me too. It'd be silly for them not to. We'll probably get the last proper trailer, the theatrical one then.
Title: Re: Alien: Covenant TV Spots
Post by: Pauli on Apr 19, 2017, 07:52:25 AM
The work on that little snapshot of the Face-hugger darting away is very well done.So well done I initially thought it was a puppet.Certainly has a weight and physicality about it, especially in its movement.

The Xenomorph also has a physicality about it and would go as far to say,especially with it's back tubes jerking about,that it is a guy in a suit with CGI added touch ups.

Either way those two shots look particularly well done.
Title: Re: Alien: Covenant TV Spots
Post by: TheBATMAN on Apr 19, 2017, 09:13:50 AM
Everything we've seen so far looks CG to me. I think we've yet to see a single practical shot in action which is kind of worrying. Although the Alien looks a marked improvement from recent outings, it still doesn't look to me like it's actually there.
Title: Re: Alien: Covenant TV Spots
Post by: lv_226 on Apr 19, 2017, 01:34:30 PM
Quote from: ChrisPachi on Apr 19, 2017, 12:10:50 AM
Spoiler
(https://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi68.tinypic.com%2F2v9w2he.gif&hash=6160b7e82af621e570a6401bb9fe4950c37c5e73)
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If this is CG then it is good. I'm calling it a guy in a suit though. Check how the back tubes kind of bounce like they are rubber. Seems odd they would do that with CG.

Spoiler
(https://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi64.tinypic.com%2Fdxmkoo.gif&hash=b49d668a7a0f72ef8be8135b3b1ff5e1837b12f9)
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Definitely CG. And awesome.

So many aliens. So darn happy. ;D

I would have to agree with you on all of the above. IMO, this is the best the alien has looked in a very long time.
Title: Re: Alien: Covenant TV Spots
Post by: Jht on Apr 19, 2017, 07:51:07 PM
I hate the dorsal tubes, they look odd and seem to flop around
Title: Re: Alien: Covenant TV Spots
Post by: Citadel on Apr 19, 2017, 08:17:13 PM
Quote from: Xeno_from_Chino on Apr 19, 2017, 01:00:53 AM
The Aliens are going to look more realistic in the actual movie, right? I'm a little concerned from what I've seen so far. It looks very CGI up to this point, bordering on Alien 3 CGI, and I don't mean the rod puppet effect.
But it doesn't. The CGI is solid.
Title: Re: Alien: Covenant TV Spots
Post by: John Doe on Apr 20, 2017, 02:48:27 PM
Look what i found:

Title: Re: Alien: Covenant TV Spots
Post by: Corporal Hicks on Apr 20, 2017, 02:53:07 PM
I spy some brief new footage of the spores infecting someone.


Split off and merged with existing TV spots thread.
Title: Re: Alien: Covenant TV Spots
Post by: Ingwar on Apr 20, 2017, 02:58:38 PM
Find a difference. There is just one :)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=005APFzdlDc (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=005APFzdlDc)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dcfSnaCRoKE (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dcfSnaCRoKE)
Title: Re: Alien: Covenant TV Spots
Post by: Corporal Hicks on Apr 20, 2017, 03:00:56 PM
Cloaking device activated.  :P #PredatorsConfirmedInAlienCovenant

Someone drop Scified an email.  :P
Title: Re: Alien: Covenant TV Spots
Post by: Ingwar on Apr 20, 2017, 03:07:57 PM
Quote from: Corporal Hicks on Apr 20, 2017, 03:00:56 PM
Cloaking device activated.  :P #PredatorsConfirmedInAlienCovenant

Someone drop Scified an email.  :P

Predators piloting human ship? Chairs would be too small ;)
Title: Re: Alien: Covenant TV Spots
Post by: Pvt. Himmel on Apr 20, 2017, 03:24:22 PM
Quote from: Corporal Hicks on Apr 20, 2017, 03:00:56 PM
Cloaking device activated.  :P #PredatorsConfirmedInAlienCovenant

Someone drop Scified an email.  :P

Lol!!! :laugh:

On a side note.... TV Spot #30.  ???  :o
Title: Re: Alien: Covenant TV Spots
Post by: John Doe on Apr 20, 2017, 04:26:52 PM
Quote from: Ingwar on Apr 20, 2017, 02:58:38 PM
Find a difference. There is just one :)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=005APFzdlDc (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=005APFzdlDc)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dcfSnaCRoKE (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dcfSnaCRoKE)

The colour of the disc, jajaja.
Title: Re: Alien: Covenant TV Spots
Post by: Ingwar on Apr 20, 2017, 04:45:58 PM
Quote from: John Doe on Apr 20, 2017, 04:26:52 PM
Quote from: Ingwar on Apr 20, 2017, 02:58:38 PM
Find a difference. There is just one :)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=005APFzdlDc (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=005APFzdlDc)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dcfSnaCRoKE (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dcfSnaCRoKE)

The colour of the disc, jajaja.

Wow! I haven't noticed that! What I meant was a dropship on the lake :)
Title: Re: Alien: Covenant TV Spots
Post by: Anthony on Apr 20, 2017, 04:53:32 PM
Quote from: Corporal Hicks on Apr 20, 2017, 03:00:56 PM
Cloaking device activated.  :P #PredatorsConfirmedInAlienCovenant

Someone drop Scified an email.  :P

Damn, that's cold.
Title: Re: Alien: Covenant TV Spots
Post by: Nyarlathotep on Apr 20, 2017, 08:48:13 PM
Quote from: Anthony on Apr 20, 2017, 04:53:32 PM
Quote from: Corporal Hicks on Apr 20, 2017, 03:00:56 PM
Cloaking device activated.  :P #PredatorsConfirmedInAlienCovenant

Someone drop Scified an email.  :P

Damn, that's cold.
Yes, but it does indeed seem like something that they would say.
Title: Re: Alien: Covenant TV Spots
Post by: Corporal Hicks on Apr 20, 2017, 08:57:41 PM
http://www.digitaltrends.com/photography/alien-covenant-uses-gopro/
Title: Re: Alien: Covenant TV Spots
Post by: Anthony on Apr 20, 2017, 09:15:09 PM
Quote from: Nyarlathotep on Apr 20, 2017, 08:48:13 PM
Quote from: Anthony on Apr 20, 2017, 04:53:32 PM
Quote from: Corporal Hicks on Apr 20, 2017, 03:00:56 PM
Cloaking device activated.  :P #PredatorsConfirmedInAlienCovenant

Someone drop Scified an email.  :P

Damn, that's cold.
Yes, but it does indeed seem like something that they would say.

Yeah, it probably would be.
Title: Re: Alien: Covenant TV Spots
Post by: M_Tak on Apr 22, 2017, 12:27:38 PM
New HD spot containing looks of little glimpses at new footage. (Contains spoilers)





Title: Re: Alien: Covenant TV Spots
Post by: Enoch on Apr 22, 2017, 12:36:01 PM
G R E A T! :o :o
Title: Re: Alien: Covenant TV Spots
Post by: Stolen on Apr 22, 2017, 12:37:23 PM
Spoilers ?
Title: Re: Alien: Covenant TV Spots
Post by: Evanus on Apr 22, 2017, 12:38:13 PM
That shot of the Xenomorph!  :P

And the bombing scene..
Title: Re: Alien: Covenant TV Spots
Post by: St_Eddie on Apr 22, 2017, 12:42:00 PM
Spoiler
Inner-jaw most definitely confirmed.
[close]

Spoiler
Also digging that shot of the panic among the Engineers, after David gives them his gift.
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Title: Re: Alien: Covenant TV Spots
Post by: x-M-x on Apr 22, 2017, 12:44:10 PM
Nice

DEM ENGINEERS RUNNING!
Title: Re: Alien: Covenant TV Spots
Post by: Stolen on Apr 22, 2017, 12:44:53 PM
Quote from: Evanus on Apr 22, 2017, 12:38:13 PM
That shot of the Xenomorph!  :P

And the bombing scene..

So big spoilers  ;D
Title: Re: Alien: Covenant TV Spots
Post by: s7habo on Apr 22, 2017, 02:06:23 PM
One more small clip:

https://twitter.com/20thFoxItalia/status/855760099985342464
Title: Re: Alien: Covenant TV Spots
Post by: Anthony on Apr 22, 2017, 02:08:31 PM
Quote from: M_Tak on Apr 22, 2017, 12:27:38 PM
New HD spot containing looks of little glimpses at new footage. (Contains spoilers)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wdbvVc0JSLQ

Holy crap, they had a voice over.

I haven't heard one in like....years.
Title: Re: Alien: Covenant TV Spots
Post by: Pvt. Himmel on Apr 22, 2017, 02:15:49 PM
Quote from: Anthony on Apr 22, 2017, 02:08:31 PM
Quote from: M_Tak on Apr 22, 2017, 12:27:38 PM
New HD spot containing looks of little glimpses at new footage. (Contains spoilers)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wdbvVc0JSLQ

Holy crap, they had a voice over.

I haven't heard one in like....years.

Lol. :laugh:
Title: Re: Alien: Covenant TV Spots
Post by: Citadel on Apr 22, 2017, 02:34:25 PM
Can't wait for that bombing.
Title: Re: Alien: Covenant TV Spots
Post by: 343 on Apr 22, 2017, 02:44:19 PM
0:21 - 0:22! BOMBS AWAY!
New material!
Title: Re: Alien: Covenant TV Spots
Post by: Corporal Hicks on Apr 22, 2017, 03:44:31 PM
The internet where I am is shocking. Can someone take me a screencap of the tongue scene? :)
Title: Re: Alien: Covenant TV Spots
Post by: Pvt. Himmel on Apr 22, 2017, 03:47:25 PM
Quote from: Corporal Hicks on Apr 22, 2017, 03:44:31 PM
The internet where I am is shocking. Can someone take me a screencap of the tongue scene? :)

The what?
Title: Re: Alien: Covenant TV Spots
Post by: echobbase79 on Apr 22, 2017, 03:49:30 PM
(https://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FGSHuG17.png&hash=4d8bc672625cbdfd243916d890cd38cabe48389f)
Title: Re: Alien: Covenant TV Spots
Post by: SpeedyMaxx on Apr 22, 2017, 03:51:13 PM
Giger bukkake
Title: Re: Alien: Covenant TV Spots
Post by: Pvt. Himmel on Apr 22, 2017, 03:54:13 PM
Quote from: echobbase79 on Apr 22, 2017, 03:49:30 PM
(https://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FGSHuG17.png&hash=4d8bc672625cbdfd243916d890cd38cabe48389f)

WTF!! Lol. I didn't see that. :o
Title: Re: Alien: Covenant TV Spots
Post by: Anthony on Apr 22, 2017, 03:54:43 PM
Quote from: Pvt. Himmel on Apr 22, 2017, 03:47:25 PM
Quote from: Corporal Hicks on Apr 22, 2017, 03:44:31 PM
The internet where I am is shocking. Can someone take me a screencap of the tongue scene? :)

The what?


( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)
Title: Re: Alien: Covenant TV Spots
Post by: Pvt. Himmel on Apr 22, 2017, 03:55:47 PM
Quote from: Anthony on Apr 22, 2017, 03:54:43 PM
Quote from: Pvt. Himmel on Apr 22, 2017, 03:47:25 PM
Quote from: Corporal Hicks on Apr 22, 2017, 03:44:31 PM
The internet where I am is shocking. Can someone take me a screencap of the tongue scene? :)

The what?


( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)
:laugh:
Title: Re: Alien: Covenant TV Spots
Post by: echobbase79 on Apr 22, 2017, 03:58:17 PM
Quote from: Evanus on Apr 22, 2017, 12:38:13 PM
That shot of the Xenomorph!  :P

And the bombing scene..

There's their prune juice.  ;)
Title: Re: Alien: Covenant TV Spots
Post by: Evanus on Apr 22, 2017, 04:05:45 PM
Quote from: echobbase79 on Apr 22, 2017, 03:58:17 PM
Quote from: Evanus on Apr 22, 2017, 12:38:13 PM
That shot of the Xenomorph!  :P

And the bombing scene..

There's their prune juice.  ;)
Haha, yep.  :D

I think this is going to be quite a disturbing scene.
Title: Re: Alien: Covenant TV Spots
Post by: echobbase79 on Apr 22, 2017, 04:08:28 PM
Quote from: Evanus on Apr 22, 2017, 04:05:45 PM
Quote from: echobbase79 on Apr 22, 2017, 03:58:17 PM
Quote from: Evanus on Apr 22, 2017, 12:38:13 PM
That shot of the Xenomorph!  :P

And the bombing scene..

There's their prune juice.  ;)
Haha, yep.  :D

I think this is going to be quite a disturbing scene.

Yeah, it really does. I feel bad for them considering what the goo does to people.

Also, the shot of the Alien is from the shower scene right? That's most def a practical creature there.
Title: Re: Alien: Covenant TV Spots
Post by: locusta on Apr 22, 2017, 04:08:48 PM
Uhhh, nice!




And somebody tells Local Trouble, there´s a skull. :D
Title: Re: Alien: Covenant TV Spots
Post by: 343 on Apr 22, 2017, 04:31:20 PM
David is like:


A:C is going to be epic. I have high hopes for this movie.
Title: Re: Alien: Covenant TV Spots
Post by: Pvt. Himmel on Apr 22, 2017, 04:32:00 PM
Quote from: 343 on Apr 22, 2017, 04:31:20 PM
David is like:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EnFyB8abbKE

A:C is going to be epic. I have hig hopes for this movie.

Definitely!! 8)
Title: Re: Alien: Covenant TV Spots
Post by: shawsbaby on Apr 22, 2017, 04:34:07 PM
And here I thought they'd not have the second jaw situation in this film so they had something to build up to in future sequels/prequels. Apart from the skinny muscular frame, it looks pretty similar to the traditional xeno.

Oof. Officially time for me to stop visiting this site for the next month.

Title: Re: Alien: Covenant TV Spots
Post by: Pvt. Himmel on Apr 22, 2017, 04:55:30 PM
Quote from: shawsbaby on Apr 22, 2017, 04:34:07 PM
And here I thought they'd not have the second jaw situation in this film so they had something to build up to in future sequels/prequels. Apart from the skinny muscular frame, it looks pretty similar to the traditional xeno.

Oof. Officially time for me to stop visiting this site for the next month.

You'll be back.....in about a day. :laugh:
Title: Re: Alien: Covenant TV Spots
Post by: Whos_Nick on Apr 22, 2017, 04:58:51 PM
I missed trailer guy's voice
Title: Re: Alien: Covenant TV Spots
Post by: theDecline84 on Apr 22, 2017, 05:17:19 PM
Damn i cant wait to see this film.  :D
Title: Re: Alien: Covenant TV Spots
Post by: John Doe on Apr 22, 2017, 05:38:19 PM
Love the Xeno, looks practical.

Great Ridley, great.
Title: Re: Alien: Covenant TV Spots
Post by: prometheusfire08 on Apr 22, 2017, 06:24:16 PM
I think the bombing scene fully justifies the last lv223 engineers panic upon finding us in that facility ........

Title: Re: Alien: Covenant TV Spots
Post by: The Eighth Passenger on Apr 22, 2017, 06:29:10 PM
That Nam Telly spot is probably the best of the lot so far. I wonder if we'll see that bombing scene in the final trailer? Wouldn't be surprised, it would really help to sell the film.

Quote from: locusta on Apr 22, 2017, 04:08:48 PM
And somebody tells Local Trouble, there´s a skull. :D

Ssshhhh....   I already told him there would be no skulls. ;)
Title: Re: Alien: Covenant TV Spots
Post by: Mihail on Apr 22, 2017, 06:40:23 PM
Wow the last footage is amazing
Title: Re: Alien: Covenant TV Spots
Post by: salomonj on Apr 22, 2017, 07:09:57 PM
XENO SHOT!

DAVID BOMBING!

VOICE OVER!

BONER!
Title: Re: Alien: Covenant TV Spots
Post by: Ultramorph on Apr 22, 2017, 07:21:08 PM
Glad to see 
Spoiler
an inner mouth! I worried they would hold it hostage for a sequel.

Man, that bombing scene is going to be epic! This movie really does look like what I wanted Prometheus to be.
[close]
Title: Re: Alien: Covenant TV Spots
Post by: Bad Replicant on Apr 22, 2017, 07:27:46 PM
Quote from: salomonj on Apr 22, 2017, 07:09:57 PM
XENO SHOT!

DAVID BOMBING!

VOICE OVER!

BONER!

I think I missed that last part.
Title: Re: Alien: Covenant TV Spots
Post by: whiterabbit on Apr 22, 2017, 07:53:11 PM
"Mankind's greatest step, could be our last." They then follow that up with David showing exactly what that black goo does to flesh. I honestly did think that shit about David bombing the engineers was true but after seeing that 2 second clip... holy shit it's going to be awesome. Also, I assume somebody or something locks the doors to the arena. Perhaps safety protocols before the arena is set on fire.
Title: Re: Alien: Covenant TV Spots
Post by: Valaquen on Apr 22, 2017, 08:10:43 PM
Any nice screencaps going around?
Title: Re: Alien: Covenant TV Spots
Post by: Pvt. Himmel on Apr 22, 2017, 08:54:59 PM
https://twitter.com/BeatFassbender/status/855881606527148032 (https://twitter.com/BeatFassbender/status/855881606527148032)


Quote from: Valaquen on Apr 22, 2017, 08:10:43 PM
Any nice screencaps going around?

Don't kill me!! These came from ATI of scified.

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Title: Re: Alien: Covenant TV Spots
Post by: cliffhanger on Apr 22, 2017, 09:24:48 PM
that fassbender quote.

told you they weren't engineers. bunch of wise*sses.
Title: Re: Alien: Covenant TV Spots
Post by: echobbase79 on Apr 22, 2017, 09:27:28 PM

I wonder who he says that line to? I would assume Shaw.
Title: Re: Alien: Covenant TV Spots
Post by: SpeedyMaxx on Apr 22, 2017, 09:29:57 PM
We've known about that line for months. It pertains to both, which is why he kills the Engineers to salt the earth.
Title: Re: Alien: Covenant TV Spots
Post by: cliffhanger on Apr 22, 2017, 09:31:58 PM
also, i didn't expect that there would be a bunch of survivors to get boarded on the platform ship that tennessee is piloting. cool. loving the xeno minimouth scene.

that mass-murder civilization murder scene looks effin amazing. extremely unethical, morbid morally maniacal, absolute horrible to bare through for sure. this is going to be crazy.


Quote from: SpeedyMaxx on Apr 22, 2017, 09:29:57 PM
We've known about that line for months. It pertains to both, which is why he kills the Engineers to salt the earth.

yeah you just keep believing that man.
Title: Re: Alien: Covenant TV Spots
Post by: echobbase79 on Apr 22, 2017, 09:35:07 PM
Quote from: SpeedyMaxx on Apr 22, 2017, 09:29:57 PM
We've known about that line for months. It pertains to both, which is why he kills the Engineers to salt the earth.

I didn't know about that line.
Title: Re: Alien: Covenant TV Spots
Post by: SpeedyMaxx on Apr 22, 2017, 09:37:04 PM
Quote from: echobbase79 on Apr 22, 2017, 09:35:07 PM
Quote from: SpeedyMaxx on Apr 22, 2017, 09:29:57 PM
We've known about that line for months. It pertains to both, which is why he kills the Engineers to salt the earth.

I didn't know about that line.

I did.
Title: Re: Alien: Covenant TV Spots
Post by: Pvt. Himmel on Apr 22, 2017, 09:37:41 PM
Quote from: SpeedyMaxx on Apr 22, 2017, 09:37:04 PM
Quote from: echobbase79 on Apr 22, 2017, 09:35:07 PM
Quote from: SpeedyMaxx on Apr 22, 2017, 09:29:57 PM
We've known about that line for months. It pertains to both, which is why he kills the Engineers to salt the earth.

I didn't know about that line.

I did.
And how did you come this info?? Source/Link??
Title: Re: Alien: Covenant TV Spots
Post by: SpeedyMaxx on Apr 22, 2017, 09:41:21 PM
Quote from: cliffhanger on Apr 22, 2017, 09:31:58 PM
yeah you just keep believing that man.

I will, because some of us heard about the context surrounding that dialogue months ago. (No, I don't have the link in front of me.)
Spoiler
Apparently, David believes both humanity and their progenitors (the Engineers) are fundamentally flawed and must be wiped out to achieve the kind of 'perfection' Peter Weyland tells him about in the prologue featuring Guy Pearce. He decides they don't deserve another chance to fail. To that end, he begins by 'destroying to create' - wiping out the Engineers.
[close]

I can be a dick about certain things and I agreed to come down on this stuff less heavy, but I'd appreciate if you don't challenge me on something and then complain when I have something to say in response. None of the above contradicts the film crew calling these creatures what they are - dead Engineers, who David kills. You can believe what you want, just don't try to tell me I must be wrong and I won't do the same to you.
Title: Re: Alien: Covenant TV Spots
Post by: Predaker on Apr 22, 2017, 09:43:54 PM
Quote from: Pvt. Himmel on Apr 22, 2017, 09:37:41 PM
Quote from: SpeedyMaxx on Apr 22, 2017, 09:37:04 PM
Quote from: echobbase79 on Apr 22, 2017, 09:35:07 PM
Quote from: SpeedyMaxx on Apr 22, 2017, 09:29:57 PM
We've known about that line for months. It pertains to both, which is why he kills the Engineers to salt the earth.

I didn't know about that line.

I did.
And how did you come this info?? Source/Link??

Is this it?

http://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/index.php?topic=56779.0

Edit: Yep this was from last month
Title: Re: Alien: Covenant TV Spots
Post by: Pvt. Himmel on Apr 22, 2017, 09:44:53 PM
Quote from: SpeedyMaxx on Apr 22, 2017, 09:41:21 PM
Quote from: cliffhanger on Apr 22, 2017, 09:31:58 PM
yeah you just keep believing that man.

I will, because some of us heard about the context surrounding that dialogue months ago. (No, I don't have the link in front of me.)
Spoiler
Apparently, David believes both humanity and their progenitors (the Engineers) are fundamentally flawed and must be wiped out to achieve the kind of 'perfection' Peter Weyland tells him about in the prologue featuring Guy Pearce. He decides they don't deserve another chance to fail. To that end, he begins by 'destroying to create' - wiping out the Engineers.
[close]

I can be a dick about certain things and I agreed to come down on this stuff less heavy, but I'd appreciate if you don't challenge me on something and then complain when I have something to say in response. None of the above contradicts the film crew calling these creatures what they are - dead Engineers, who David kills. You can believe what you want, just don't try to tell me I must be wrong and I won't do the same to you.
Is that what you were trying to say???

I've known about that as well since it was first reported @cinemacon.
http://www.thewrap.com/new-alien-covenant-footage-reveals-link-prometheus-spoilers/ (http://www.thewrap.com/new-alien-covenant-footage-reveals-link-prometheus-spoilers/)
Title: Re: Alien: Covenant TV Spots
Post by: cliffhanger on Apr 22, 2017, 09:47:22 PM
yeah you got that right, you're really being a complete d*ck in this thread for quite some time now and it's really getting old.

you can believe whatever the *** you want, but stop telling the rest of this board to bend to your will and thoughts just because you have such a gigantic ego problem. so you can start putting that sentence above firstly and firmly to yourself, because you have been the one constantly pushing your views to others because in your mind, it doesn't fit. it's getting out of control like some sort of trollish controlfreak that doesnt let people breath outside of an amount they can barely survive because you feel like it.

it's reaching the points of harrassing forum members and hijacking every single thread in here. get a grip with yourself, for real. and yes, i'm speaking up here about it because it's absolute annoying and yes, i have also reported it.
Title: Re: Alien: Covenant TV Spots
Post by: SpeedyMaxx on Apr 22, 2017, 09:47:28 PM
That's part of it, yes. But there was a similar description floating around from a screening last year, I think, where
Spoiler
David says the same thing essentially - that both humans and Engineers have f**ked it up, and the only way to perfect new life is to destroy both flawed species.

He begins with the Engineers, in the scene we now all know well. His next presumed step (against humanity) is to begin work to either create or reverse-engineer the alien.
[close]
Title: Re: Alien: Covenant TV Spots
Post by: rabidranger on Apr 22, 2017, 09:49:16 PM
That Engineer mass exodus looks like something out of Game of Thrones. It makes me wonder about their society. Did they turn their back on technology or just dig an old school aesthetic for their day to day life?
Title: Re: Alien: Covenant TV Spots
Post by: SpeedyMaxx on Apr 22, 2017, 09:49:32 PM
Quote from: cliffhanger on Apr 22, 2017, 09:47:22 PM
i'm speaking up here about it because it's absolute annoying and yes, i have also reported it.

Do what you feel is appropriate, man. I don't claim to be a saint. But I'd appreciate if you don't come at me to tell me I must be full of shit because of X or Y from the magazine article, and then get mad at the response. I'm honestly trying to live and let live.

Quote from: rabidranger on Apr 22, 2017, 09:49:16 PM
That Engineer mass exodus looks like something put of Game of Thrones. It makes wonder about their society. Did they turn their back on technology or just dig an old school aesthetic for their day to day life?

Honestly, I didn't like that shit in Prometheus and I don't like it now - the whole Renaissance Fair robe look, like the deleted bit with the old prunefaced Engineer on the cliff with the sacrificial one. It goes against what I always saw as the more consistent aesthetic of Giger's biomechanoids. I was more than willing to go with them being blue humanoids, but the whole sand and sandals robe look feels like cut-rate Star Trek to me, like some SyFy original series where they can only film in backlots or national parks. Do we really believe the space jockeys are hanging out low to the ground in the dust?
Title: Re: Alien: Covenant TV Spots
Post by: Pvt. Himmel on Apr 22, 2017, 09:53:30 PM
Quote from: rabidranger on Apr 22, 2017, 09:49:16 PM
That Engineer mass exodus looks like something put of Game of Thrones. It makes wonder about their society. Did they turn their back on technology or just dig an old school aesthetic for their day to day life?
I think that these specific type of race are not the only ones, so maybe that's why their city looks like old roman.greek inspired.
Title: Re: Alien: Covenant TV Spots
Post by: Predaker on Apr 22, 2017, 09:57:27 PM
Quote from: SpeedyMaxx on Apr 22, 2017, 09:49:32 PM
Quote from: rabidranger on Apr 22, 2017, 09:49:16 PM
That Engineer mass exodus looks like something put of Game of Thrones. It makes wonder about their society. Did they turn their back on technology or just dig an old school aesthetic for their day to day life?

Honestly, I didn't like that shit in Prometheus and I don't like it now - the whole Renaissance Fair robe look, like the deleted bit with the old prunefaced Engineer on the cliff with the sacrificial one. It goes against what I always saw as the more consistent aesthetic of Giger's biomechanoids. I was more than willing to go with them being blue humanoids, but the whole sand and sandals robe look feels like cut-rate Star Trek to me, like some SyFy original series where they can only film in backlots or national parks. Do we really believe the space jockeys are hanging out low to the ground in the dust?

Good thing we have David to take care of that for us.  ;D
Title: Re: Alien: Covenant TV Spots
Post by: cliffhanger on Apr 22, 2017, 10:02:26 PM
Quote from: SpeedyMaxx on Apr 22, 2017, 09:49:32 PM
Quote from: cliffhanger on Apr 22, 2017, 09:47:22 PM
i'm speaking up here about it because it's absolute annoying and yes, i have also reported it.

Do what you feel is appropriate, man. I don't claim to be a saint. But I'd appreciate if you don't come at me to tell me I must be full of shit because of X or Y from the magazine article, and then get mad at the response. I'm honestly trying to live and let live.


No you act like a wise-*ss that knows better than anybody on this forum and want medals for it.we all also would appreciate it if you can just let posters post, instead of constantly nag the living sh*t out of every little point that you dont agree with. you're not at all trying to live and let live, you're doing opposite, and also act rather trollish to go as far as act like a grammar nazi out on something pvt. Himmel posted. you're not claiming you're a saint? funny remark.
Title: Re: Alien: Covenant TV Spots
Post by: SpeedyMaxx on Apr 22, 2017, 10:05:24 PM
Quote from: cliffhanger on Apr 22, 2017, 10:02:26 PM
No you act like a wise-*ss that knows better than anybody on this forum and want medals for it.we all also would appreciate it if you can just let posters post, instead of constantly nag the living sh*t out of every little point that you dont agree with.

Dude, you stirred this up again by insisting something you saw meant those weren't the Engineers and that you 'told us so'. I spoke on that. That's all. I'm really not trying to f**k with you on this or have an argument. Believe whatever you want til opening day, just don't come at me about it before then.

And I definitely do not want a medal.
Title: Re: Alien: Covenant TV Spots
Post by: Predaker on Apr 22, 2017, 10:07:52 PM
Quote from: cliffhanger on Apr 22, 2017, 09:24:48 PM
that fassbender quote.

told you they weren't engineers. bunch of wise*sses.

One of the descriptions from CinemaCon states those lines from David were not during the bombing scene but "present day" (after the Covenant had arrived.)

Also that twitter account is a fan, not Fassbender
Title: Re: Alien: Covenant TV Spots
Post by: cliffhanger on Apr 22, 2017, 10:08:26 PM
I stir it up, really, you have zero self-cricism. no, you're not trying to f* with me, you have been doing so with multiple board members. nobody's coming 'at you', you came 'at everybody' that dont write what you think it should be like, and then you go all berserk about it. now people are having enough of it and you claim others stir it up or coming at you like you're some sort of saint, like you're remarking above?

remarkable.

whatever man, i'm done with dealing with your bs, as i can see you can't give it a rest and must have the final word on every single matter here.
Title: Re: Alien: Covenant TV Spots
Post by: echobbase79 on Apr 22, 2017, 10:18:46 PM
Quote from: cliffhanger on Apr 22, 2017, 10:02:26 PM
Quote from: SpeedyMaxx on Apr 22, 2017, 09:49:32 PM
Quote from: cliffhanger on Apr 22, 2017, 09:47:22 PM
i'm speaking up here about it because it's absolute annoying and yes, i have also reported it.

Do what you feel is appropriate, man. I don't claim to be a saint. But I'd appreciate if you don't come at me to tell me I must be full of shit because of X or Y from the magazine article, and then get mad at the response. I'm honestly trying to live and let live.


No you act like a wise-*ss that knows better than anybody on this forum and want medals for it.we all also would appreciate it if you can just let posters post, instead of constantly nag the living sh*t out of every little point that you dont agree with. you're not at all trying to live and let live, you're doing opposite, and also act rather trollish to go as far as act like a grammar nazi out on something pvt. Himmel posted. you're not claiming you're a saint? funny remark.

I've not read every post he's made, but he's always been cool to me.
Title: Re: Alien: Covenant TV Spots
Post by: Corporal Hicks on Apr 22, 2017, 10:21:35 PM
Can we relax here gentleman. There's no need to get bent out shape here.  Disagreements are going to happen but if folk can't do it like adults or take criticism, don't get involved.
Title: Re: Alien: Covenant TV Spots
Post by: Evanus on Apr 22, 2017, 10:30:02 PM
Jesus, SpeedyMaxx is just being realistic. And I have to say I agree with him.
Title: Re: Alien: Covenant TV Spots
Post by: echobbase79 on Apr 22, 2017, 10:37:29 PM

I'm curious as the why the Engineers put themselves in a arena where they can't escape? Of course it probably doesn't matter considering how much goo gets dropped on them.
Title: Re: Alien: Covenant TV Spots
Post by: St_Eddie on Apr 22, 2017, 11:21:09 PM
Quote from: Evanus on Apr 22, 2017, 10:30:02 PM
Jesus, SpeedyMaxx is just being realistic. And I have to say I agree with him.

I agree.  Still, multiple people here need to stop getting so hostile over differences in opinion.  It's a film.  Relax, folks.  Not everyone is going to agree with everyone else but we can at least agree to be mutually civil with one another?

Title: Re: Alien: Covenant TV Spots
Post by: kwisatz on Apr 22, 2017, 11:37:29 PM
Quote from: echobbase79 on Apr 22, 2017, 10:37:29 PM

I'm curious as the why the Engineers put themselves in a arena where they can't escape? Of course it probably doesn't matter considering how much goo gets dropped on them.

I think they really are spellbound by the sighting of the juggernaut and/or the scorpion ship (maybe thats even its ultimate purpose its so effin huge that it could be seen from anywhere in the city, and thats why David "activates" it too). Leading to the citadel i think the arena is in fact a huge courtyard that can be closed of for crowd control.

(https://qph.ec.quoracdn.net/main-qimg-f115a7d3902bdd36487ec147283f297b)

David picks this place intentionally and hovers over it with the juggernaut/scorpion ship. Nothing but a huge rat trap.
Title: Re: Alien: Covenant TV Spots
Post by: Anthony on Apr 22, 2017, 11:40:28 PM
Quote from: St_Eddie on Apr 22, 2017, 11:21:09 PM
  Still, multiple people here need to stop getting so hostile over differences in opinion.  It's a film.  Relax, folks.  Not everyone is going to agree with everyone else but we can at least agree to be mutually civil with one another?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WJTBPdVpdMc

I agree with this.
Title: Re: Alien: Covenant TV Spots
Post by: St_Eddie on Apr 22, 2017, 11:43:27 PM
I really wish that Ridley Scott wasn't taking so much influence from our own history and architecture.  I mean, I understand that he's coming from the 'we're them and they're us' angle with the Engineers but damn, I really wanted me some Gigeresque planet of unholy nightmares.

I guess that's the problem with nigh on 40 years of dreams and expectations, in regards to that mysterious space jockey from 'Alien'.
Title: Re: Alien: Covenant TV Spots
Post by: theDecline84 on Apr 22, 2017, 11:44:18 PM
You guys think we will get a new trailer on alien day?
Title: Re: Alien: Covenant TV Spots
Post by: St_Eddie on Apr 22, 2017, 11:46:49 PM
Quote from: theDecline84 on Apr 22, 2017, 11:44:18 PM
You guys think we will get a new trailer on alien day?

That seems likely.  At the very least, Fox will surely give us something new in regards to 'Alien: Covenant' on that day.  Having said that, I'm not sure that I want them to.  I think that they've already spoiled the film far too much with the copious trailers and clips, just like they did with 'Prometheus'.

First world problems...
Title: Re: Alien: Covenant TV Spots
Post by: kwisatz on Apr 22, 2017, 11:51:14 PM
Quote from: St_Eddie on Apr 22, 2017, 11:43:27 PM
I really wish that Ridley Scott wasn't taking so much influence from our own history and architecture.  I mean, I understand that he's coming from the 'we're them and they're us' angle with the Engineers but damn, I really wanted me some Gigeresque planet of unholy nightmares.

I guess that's the problem with nigh on 40 years of dreams and expectations, in regards to that mysterious space jockey from 'Alien'.


I hear you mate, but if these engineers are just some sort of aftermath culture there might be a whole Gigerian city buried underneath this Vatican simulation.

At least we can dream together!


(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/b/b9/Blade_Runner_unicorn.png)


Title: Re: Alien: Covenant TV Spots
Post by: theDecline84 on Apr 22, 2017, 11:54:08 PM
I wanna check out the Q & A. You think it will be posted later if i miss it at 10am pst?
Title: Re: Alien: Covenant TV Spots
Post by: Pvt. Himmel on Apr 22, 2017, 11:58:14 PM
Quote from: theDecline84 on Apr 22, 2017, 11:54:08 PM
I wanna check out the Q & A. You think it will be posted later if i miss it at 10am pst?
Oh yes we are very consistent with stuffs like that. :)
Title: Re: Alien: Covenant TV Spots
Post by: echobbase79 on Apr 22, 2017, 11:59:50 PM
Quote from: theDecline84 on Apr 22, 2017, 11:44:18 PM
You guys think we will get a new trailer on alien day?

I think they'll give us an actual scene. I'm thinking when the solider gets infected with the spores.
Title: Re: Alien: Covenant TV Spots
Post by: Ragonk_Force on Apr 23, 2017, 12:18:36 AM
Quote from: St_Eddie on Apr 22, 2017, 11:43:27 PM
I really wish that Ridley Scott wasn't taking so much influence from our own history and architecture.  I mean, I understand that he's coming from the 'we're them and they're us' angle with the Engineers but damn, I really wanted me some Gigeresque planet of unholy nightmares.

I guess that's the problem with nigh on 40 years of dreams and expectations, in regards to that mysterious space jockey from 'Alien'.
Im with you on that. I definitely want more giger as it is truly alien and frightening, even today. But dont lose hope yet, there is still 2 movies coming to possibly explore that. Let it play out and see what Ridley's plan is. Its no secret how much he loves Gigers art, so i dont think he will abandon it all together. In Ridley we trust
Title: Re: Alien: Covenant TV Spots
Post by: Anthony on Apr 23, 2017, 12:22:08 AM
Fox has also confirmed some BTS stuff on Alien Day.
Title: Re: Alien: Covenant TV Spots
Post by: acidreign on Apr 23, 2017, 12:39:06 AM
Quote from: kwisatz on Apr 22, 2017, 11:51:14 PM
Quote from: St_Eddie on Apr 22, 2017, 11:43:27 PM
I really wish that Ridley Scott wasn't taking so much influence from our own history and architecture.  I mean, I understand that he's coming from the 'we're them and they're us' angle with the Engineers but damn, I really wanted me some Gigeresque planet of unholy nightmares.

I guess that's the problem with nigh on 40 years of dreams and expectations, in regards to that mysterious space jockey from 'Alien'.


I hear you mate, but if these engineers are just some sort of aftermath culture there might be a whole Gigerian city buried underneath this Vatican simulation.

At least we can dream together!


https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/b/b9/Blade_Runner_unicorn.png

While that won't likely happen there *is* at least this nod to Gigeresque aesthetics:

(https://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fcdn.collider.com%2Fwp-content%2Fuploads%2F2017%2F02%2Falien-covenant-still.jpg&hash=a86847aff42f2ddb31a25fef4a1387d774c73189)

Ever since this shot was first released I've been trying to figure out where this tunnel is located.

It's probably not part of the crashed Juggernaut since it looks pristine and the ribbed architecture is much more reminiscent of the original Derelict from Alien.

A subterranean chamber under the Citadel perhaps?

Then the pictures of the so-called Scorpionaut leaked and I think this very well might be part of that vehicle/structure.

I have a strong suspicion that the silhouetted figure might be David just before or after he emerges onto the platform to release the black goo bombs.

What do y'all think?
Title: Re: Alien: Covenant TV Spots
Post by: SpeedyMaxx on Apr 23, 2017, 12:41:10 AM
I think it's the juggernaut.
Title: Re: Alien: Covenant TV Spots
Post by: Predaker on Apr 23, 2017, 12:43:19 AM
QuoteI have a strong suspicion that the silhouetted figure might be David just before he emerges onto the platform to release the black goo bombs.

Isn't it one of the journalists who made a set visit?

Whoever he is, you can see what looks like an ear piece/spiral cord if you zoom in close.
Title: Re: Alien: Covenant TV Spots
Post by: acidreign on Apr 23, 2017, 12:50:10 AM
It doesn't look like the interior of the Juggernaut though:

(https://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.scified.com%2Fmedia%2Falien--covenant-trailer-2-80193.jpg&hash=70da27744f28c5dc966440734896eed1f50e9c4d)

Perhaps it's just a section we haven't seen.
Title: Re: Alien: Covenant TV Spots
Post by: kwisatz on Apr 23, 2017, 12:52:28 AM
Quote from: acidreign on Apr 23, 2017, 12:39:06 AM
Quote from: kwisatz on Apr 22, 2017, 11:51:14 PM
Quote from: St_Eddie on Apr 22, 2017, 11:43:27 PM
I really wish that Ridley Scott wasn't taking so much influence from our own history and architecture.  I mean, I understand that he's coming from the 'we're them and they're us' angle with the Engineers but damn, I really wanted me some Gigeresque planet of unholy nightmares.

I guess that's the problem with nigh on 40 years of dreams and expectations, in regards to that mysterious space jockey from 'Alien'.


I hear you mate, but if these engineers are just some sort of aftermath culture there might be a whole Gigerian city buried underneath this Vatican simulation.

At least we can dream together!


https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/b/b9/Blade_Runner_unicorn.png

While that won't likely happen there *is* at least this nod to Gigeresque aesthetics:

(https://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fcdn.collider.com%2Fwp-content%2Fuploads%2F2017%2F02%2Falien-covenant-still.jpg&hash=a86847aff42f2ddb31a25fef4a1387d774c73189)

Ever since this shot was first released I've been trying to figure out where this tunnel is located.

It's probably not part of the crashed Juggernaut since it looks pristine and the ribbed architecture is much more reminiscent of the original Derelict from Alien.

A subterranean chamber under the Citadel perhaps?

Then the pictures of the so-called Scorpionaut leaked and I think this very well might be part of that vehicle/structure.

I have a strong suspicion that the silhouetted figure might be David just before or after he emerges onto the platform to release the black goo bombs.

What do y'all think?


Don't know. The new one looks quite asymmetrical, i must say. Deformation due to crashlanding, somehow turned upside down?

(https://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fcdn5.thr.com%2Fsites%2Fdefault%2Ffiles%2Fimagecache%2Fscale_crop_768_433%2F2012%2F05%2Ftunnel_a.jpg&hash=43712cad7216c4a21a93f64864d17d796915c65d)


But is probably just another case of re-design, sadly.
Title: Re: Alien: Covenant TV Spots
Post by: acidreign on Apr 23, 2017, 12:56:11 AM
Quote from: Predaker on Apr 23, 2017, 12:43:19 AM
QuoteI have a strong suspicion that the silhouetted figure might be David just before he emerges onto the platform to release the black goo bombs.

Isn't it one of the journalists who made a set visit?

If I'm not mistaken it's an official still from the movie.

If the figure isn't David I'm thinking probably Crudup/Oram.


Quote from: kwisatz on Apr 23, 2017, 12:52:28 AM
Quote from: acidreign on Apr 23, 2017, 12:39:06 AM
Quote from: kwisatz on Apr 22, 2017, 11:51:14 PM
Quote from: St_Eddie on Apr 22, 2017, 11:43:27 PM
I really wish that Ridley Scott wasn't taking so much influence from our own history and architecture.  I mean, I understand that he's coming from the 'we're them and they're us' angle with the Engineers but damn, I really wanted me some Gigeresque planet of unholy nightmares.

I guess that's the problem with nigh on 40 years of dreams and expectations, in regards to that mysterious space jockey from 'Alien'.


I hear you mate, but if these engineers are just some sort of aftermath culture there might be a whole Gigerian city buried underneath this Vatican simulation.

At least we can dream together!


https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/b/b9/Blade_Runner_unicorn.png

While that won't likely happen there *is* at least this nod to Gigeresque aesthetics:

(https://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fcdn.collider.com%2Fwp-content%2Fuploads%2F2017%2F02%2Falien-covenant-still.jpg&hash=a86847aff42f2ddb31a25fef4a1387d774c73189)

Ever since this shot was first released I've been trying to figure out where this tunnel is located.

It's probably not part of the crashed Juggernaut since it looks pristine and the ribbed architecture is much more reminiscent of the original Derelict from Alien.

A subterranean chamber under the Citadel perhaps?

Then the pictures of the so-called Scorpionaut leaked and I think this very well might be part of that vehicle/structure.

I have a strong suspicion that the silhouetted figure might be David just before or after he emerges onto the platform to release the black goo bombs.

What do y'all think?


Don't know. The new one looks quite asymmetrical, i must say. Deformation due to crashlanding, somehow turned upside down?

(https://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fcdn5.thr.com%2Fsites%2Fdefault%2Ffiles%2Fimagecache%2Fscale_crop_768_433%2F2012%2F05%2Ftunnel_a.jpg&hash=43712cad7216c4a21a93f64864d17d796915c65d)


But is probably just another case of re-design, sadly.

It can't just be a re-design because the shots of the crashed Juggernaut in Covenant (such as the one I just linked to) make clear that the architecture is identical to Prometheus. Therefore the Giger-esque tunnel is either a previously unseen part of the Juggernaut or it is part of a different structure or craft altogether. That's why it's an interesting puzzle to me. Most of the structures we've seen in Covenant have a distinct lack of that biomechanical style.
Title: Re: Alien: Covenant TV Spots
Post by: kwisatz on Apr 23, 2017, 01:05:50 AM
QuoteIf I'm not mistaken it's an official still from the movie.


I dont think so. Watch closely you can see a cable coming from the left bottom and even crossing the way behind the guy. And the already mentioned ear piece. Its a set photo.
Title: Re: Alien: Covenant TV Spots
Post by: TheBATMAN on Apr 23, 2017, 01:39:21 AM
It is curious considering it seems so out of place compared to everything else we've seen so far. An underground Giger-esque labyrinth would be wondrous, but also wishful thinking.
Title: Re: Alien: Covenant TV Spots
Post by: kwisatz on Apr 23, 2017, 02:10:22 AM
Quote from: acidreign on Apr 23, 2017, 12:39:06 AM
Quote from: kwisatz on Apr 22, 2017, 11:51:14 PM
Quote from: St_Eddie on Apr 22, 2017, 11:43:27 PM
I really wish that Ridley Scott wasn't taking so much influence from our own history and architecture.  I mean, I understand that he's coming from the 'we're them and they're us' angle with the Engineers but damn, I really wanted me some Gigeresque planet of unholy nightmares.

I guess that's the problem with nigh on 40 years of dreams and expectations, in regards to that mysterious space jockey from 'Alien'.


I hear you mate, but if these engineers are just some sort of aftermath culture there might be a whole Gigerian city buried underneath this Vatican simulation.

At least we can dream together!


https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/b/b9/Blade_Runner_unicorn.png

While that won't likely happen there *is* at least this nod to Gigeresque aesthetics:

(https://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fcdn.collider.com%2Fwp-content%2Fuploads%2F2017%2F02%2Falien-covenant-still.jpg&hash=a86847aff42f2ddb31a25fef4a1387d774c73189)

Ever since this shot was first released I've been trying to figure out where this tunnel is located.

It's probably not part of the crashed Juggernaut since it looks pristine and the ribbed architecture is much more reminiscent of the original Derelict from Alien.

A subterranean chamber under the Citadel perhaps?

Then the pictures of the so-called Scorpionaut leaked and I think this very well might be part of that vehicle/structure.

I have a strong suspicion that the silhouetted figure might be David just before or after he emerges onto the platform to release the black goo bombs.

What do y'all think?

I mean, compare these huihui

(https://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.alien-covenant.com%2Faliencovenant_uploads%2Fderelictcorridor.png&hash=943f4246303f7f48726fbd314bd9bcc351035ebb)


But doesnt that actually speak for re-design, considerung its not just a tunnel but a derelict corridor? Why would there be more Giger-esque ships and not so Giger-esque ships? And the suit of the engineer in Prometheus was quite Giger-esque. A Giger-esque Engineer in a not so Giger-esque ship? Now gonna need some ansaas Ridley Sir!

Fox forcing Giger back into the design. Wonders never cease!
Title: Re: Alien: Covenant TV Spots
Post by: acidreign on Apr 23, 2017, 02:32:37 AM
Comparison

Juggernaut, Prometheus:

(https://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fcdn5.thr.com%2Fsites%2Fdefault%2Ffiles%2Fimagecache%2Fscale_crop_768_433%2F2012%2F05%2Ftunnel_a.jpg&hash=43712cad7216c4a21a93f64864d17d796915c65d)

Juggernaut, Covenant: here you can see that the architecture is virtually the same as in Prometheus.

(https://www.avpgalaxy.net/gallery/albums/userpics/10003/Alien-Covenant-Final-Trailer-039.jpg)

Giger Tunnel, Covenant: clearly distinct in style from the Juggernauts (or at least the parts we've seen). Reminiscent of the Derelict.

(https://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fcdn.collider.com%2Fwp-content%2Fuploads%2F2017%2F02%2Falien-covenant-still.jpg&hash=a86847aff42f2ddb31a25fef4a1387d774c73189)
Title: Re: Alien: Covenant TV Spots
Post by: kwisatz on Apr 23, 2017, 02:44:18 AM
Ah i missed that we already have a corridor shot from Covenant.

Yeah now im completely lost. Because thats is definitely not an ordinary tunnel its almost identical to the 1979 derelict corridor. Though there might be an ordinary Tunnel in Covenant that looks just like the 1979 corridor which i would find a bit meh. And even more so because showing this early in production would be a bit misleading the fan, huh Ridley, you hear me?

I guess it could just be a very similar tunnel, lol.
Title: Re: Alien: Covenant TV Spots
Post by: acidreign on Apr 23, 2017, 02:57:17 AM
I guess we'll just have to wait and see where it is when the movie comes out!

It is kind of heartening that there are at least some things that can't be easily inferred from leaks, trailers and set reports.
Title: Re: Alien: Covenant TV Spots
Post by: bunnyavpg on Apr 23, 2017, 03:03:12 AM
Look at the floor of all three pics. The Prometheus Juggernaut has a clean floor, the Covenant Juggernaut has a slightly dirty floor and the Covenant corridor has soil completely covering the floor.

We know that the Prometheus and Covenant Juggernauts were different vessels but they were both in the hangars and thus clean, so we can presume that the ship David and Shaw left in was in as pristine condition as the one that crashed.. There's an opening in the side of the Juggernaut in Covenant so we can presume that nature (wind borne leaves, etc.) has invaded the interior spaces.

The 'new' corridor from Covenant is a different matter though, it looks like a covering of fine sand rather than dried leaves, etc.
Title: Re: Alien: Covenant TV Spots
Post by: NickisSmart on Apr 23, 2017, 03:11:49 AM


I take my first extended look at the international trailer, which contains never-before-seen footage of the bombing sequence, as well as a nice ECU of the alien's head. Good stuff.

Spoilers!
Title: Re: Alien: Covenant TV Spots
Post by: kwisatz on Apr 23, 2017, 03:56:04 AM
Quote from: bunnyavpg on Apr 23, 2017, 03:03:12 AM
Look at the floor of all three pics. The Prometheus Juggernaut has a clean floor, the Covenant Juggernaut has a slightly dirty floor and the Covenant corridor has soil completely covering the floor.

We know that the Prometheus and Covenant Juggernauts were different vessels but they were both in the hangars and thus clean, so we can presume that the ship David and Shaw left in was in as pristine condition as the one that crashed.. There's an opening in the side of the Juggernaut in Covenant so we can presume that nature (wind borne leaves, etc.) has invaded the interior spaces.

The 'new' corridor from Covenant is a different matter though, it looks like a covering of fine sand rather than dried leaves, etc.

Reminded me of this at the first look.

(https://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.cheatsheet.com%2Fwp-content%2Fuploads%2F2016%2F10%2FAlien-Covenant-eggs.jpg&hash=1b1653f272f5ecfcd7bce6987760c8863e032468)

I thought it might be ash (dead engineers), where David has planted the eggs into to grow, maybe its the black goo becoming earth again. The surrounding of the egg chamber does look mildly Giger-esque too. Giger underground torture corn city im ready.

edit: Another thought: maybe after the bombing the black goo oozed through the hole in the middle of the plaza into an underground tunnel system carrying the decomposed bodyparts of the engineers with it. David didnt create the eggs they are like fruit bodys, like blossoms that have grown over time out of the black goo/dead engineer humus. David knew they were there but until the arrival of the Covenant he actually wasnt able to trigger them (no more human shaped organism left on the planet). Maybe only the neomorph is his own creation. Maybe its less "perfect" because it only derives from a combination of the black goo with flora.
Title: Re: Alien: Covenant TV Spots
Post by: Immortan Jonesy on Apr 23, 2017, 04:02:50 AM
Quote from: acidreign on Apr 23, 2017, 02:32:37 AM
Comparison

Juggernaut, Prometheus:

(https://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fcdn5.thr.com%2Fsites%2Fdefault%2Ffiles%2Fimagecache%2Fscale_crop_768_433%2F2012%2F05%2Ftunnel_a.jpg&hash=43712cad7216c4a21a93f64864d17d796915c65d)

Juggernaut, Covenant: here you can see that the architecture is virtually the same as in Prometheus.

(https://www.avpgalaxy.net/gallery/albums/userpics/10003/Alien-Covenant-Final-Trailer-039.jpg)

Giger Tunnel, Covenant: clearly distinct in style from the Juggernauts (or at least the parts we've seen). Reminiscent of the Derelict.

(https://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fcdn.collider.com%2Fwp-content%2Fuploads%2F2017%2F02%2Falien-covenant-still.jpg&hash=a86847aff42f2ddb31a25fef4a1387d774c73189)

I am wondering if the corridor of that last image could belong to the interiors of the "Mother Juggernaut" (A.K.A Scorpionaut).

Unless...we are going to see the Derelict (or another ship but with the same design) in Alien Covenant, even though I know that is unlikely and perhaps this particular architecture is just part of the interiors in the Engineers citadel :p

Anyway, I'm happy because we are going to see this kind of backgrounds on AC. Since the biomechanical structures were totally absent in Prometheus.
Title: Re: Alien: Covenant TV Spots
Post by: rabidranger on Apr 23, 2017, 05:48:54 AM
The eggs are one of things I'm most curious about.  Even though I doubt Shaw turned into an egg laying Queen I think she's involved somehow.
Title: Re: Alien: Covenant TV Spots
Post by: acidreign on Apr 23, 2017, 07:52:12 AM
I think the eggs in that chamber are created by David cultivating/crossbreeding the local goo-infected plant and animal life.

If you look at some of the pics of David's lair/lab you can see illustrated charts hanging in the background depicting what look like plant spores and primitive facehugger-type organisms.

According to descriptions of the SXSW footage there is a scene where David explains to another character a little about what he's been doing, but I'm willing to bet the details of the process will be implied rather than explicitly depicted.
Title: Re: Alien: Covenant TV Spots
Post by: Daz1999 on Apr 23, 2017, 10:15:50 AM
Are any of you guys worried you're seeing too much? , I remember watching Prometheus and thinking wow I feel like I've seen every major scene already, I've tried not to do the same this time, it's hard though!  :)
Title: Re: Alien: Covenant TV Spots
Post by: El Diablo on Apr 23, 2017, 10:32:22 AM
Quote from: Daz1999 on Apr 23, 2017, 10:15:50 AM
Are any of you guys worried you're seeing too much? , I remember watching Prometheus and thinking wow I feel like I've seen every major scene already, I've tried not to do the same this time, it's hard though!  :)

True. I felt like I'd seen everything by the time PROMETHEUS was released.
Title: Re: Alien: Covenant TV Spots
Post by: cliffhanger on Apr 23, 2017, 10:58:26 AM
Quote from: Daz1999 on Apr 23, 2017, 10:15:50 AM
Are any of you guys worried you're seeing too much? , I remember watching Prometheus and thinking wow I feel like I've seen every major scene already, I've tried not to do the same this time, it's hard though!  :)

it's taking up pace a bit too much lately.
The Empire Magazine shot of David unleashing hordes of vases/canisters was mega, and epic, and perfect. It was just enough.
Unfortunately, i feel that with the latest vids, showing those vases actually being dropped, and seeing black stuff splattered over the citizens,
that it's giving away too much.

it would be better NOT to have shown that, and keep it restricted to the empire shot.

but oh well.
Title: Re: Alien: Covenant TV Spots
Post by: Walter on Apr 23, 2017, 12:22:30 PM
No any single Engineer's did not alive ?

(https://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FJWoa76C.gif&hash=08bd7c75bd1af6ada059f6eb00f1defa45b05ec7)

(https://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FFVoAMLe.gif&hash=c7951d7108e1c6968f2e79f7c7bdb9201b227f62)
Title: Re: Alien: Covenant TV Spots
Post by: juxtapose on Apr 23, 2017, 12:57:34 PM
. .whats this talk about an international trailer that shows the actual bombing. .when did this happen. .is it another tv spot or a full cinematic trailer?. .as for tv spots. .i know about. .run pray hide and the shaw one. .is their any others available on youtube?
Title: Re: Alien: Covenant TV Spots
Post by: szkoki on Apr 23, 2017, 02:58:18 PM
Quote from: Walter on Apr 23, 2017, 12:22:30 PM
No any single Engineer's did not alive ?

http://i.imgur.com/JWoa76C.gif

http://i.imgur.com/FVoAMLe.gif

wondering if is this a payback for Weyland or he just playing around or he is still trying harder
Title: Re: Alien: Covenant TV Spots
Post by: Evanus on Apr 23, 2017, 03:00:54 PM
I read somewhere that David cries while bombing the engineers. I wonder why. Does he think it's beautiful? Or is he sad?  ???
Title: Re: Alien: Covenant TV Spots
Post by: echobbase79 on Apr 23, 2017, 03:10:56 PM
He could be thinking about Weyland?
Title: Re: Alien: Covenant TV Spots
Post by: Evanus on Apr 23, 2017, 03:27:44 PM
Well, after Weyland died, he said he was free. He also said to Shaw: Doesn't everyone want their parents dead? So it seems like he always wanted to be free, and never really liked Weyland.
Title: Re: Alien: Covenant TV Spots
Post by: Tonyhartmorph on Apr 23, 2017, 03:33:33 PM
The basic fact is you don't have to come on forums like this if you feel as though you are being spoiled. I guarantee you the average viewer interested in Covenant will not know what the hell the goo bombing scene is about, they won't have spent months reading hints and suggestions, gossip and rumours of what is going on. I know a few people who like the Alien series, want to see Covenant, and they just don't know. 

This level of revelation is nothing new if you're hunting it out, Starlog used to spoil the hell out of films with behind the scenes reports and photographs.

Sorry to be blunt, but if you feel as though you've spoiled the film that's your own fault. The description here at AvP even describes there will be a moment showing a bit of the bombing... yet you watch the clip anyway.
Title: Re: Alien: Covenant TV Spots
Post by: echobbase79 on Apr 23, 2017, 03:49:56 PM
Quote from: Evanus on Apr 23, 2017, 03:27:44 PM
Well, after Weyland died, he said he was free. He also said to Shaw: Doesn't everyone want their parents dead? So it seems like he always wanted to be free, and never really liked Weyland.

True, but I'm thinking this scene is right after the opening flashback with Weyland. Maybe the flashback triggers how he really did love Weyland.

Or maybe like you stated, he simply sad because of seeing the Engineers die.
Title: Re: Alien: Covenant TV Spots
Post by: Evanus on Apr 23, 2017, 03:52:53 PM
This scene takes place halfway through the movie, according to the soundtrack list.

I suppose he's just crying because he thinks it's beautiful.
Title: Re: Alien: Covenant TV Spots
Post by: echobbase79 on Apr 23, 2017, 04:10:23 PM
Quote from: Evanus on Apr 23, 2017, 03:52:53 PM
This scene takes place halfway through the movie, according to the soundtrack list.

I suppose he's just crying because he thinks it's beautiful.

Oh okay, I didn't know that scene takes place later in the movie. I guess David must tell the crew what happened on the planet after saving them from the neomorphs.

Yeah, he probably cries because it's beautiful to him.


Quote from: Tonyhartmorph on Apr 23, 2017, 03:33:33 PM
The basic fact is you don't have to come on forums like this if you feel as though you are being spoiled. I guarantee you the average viewer interested in Covenant will not know what the hell the goo bombing scene is about, they won't have spent months reading hints and suggestions, gossip and rumours of what is going on. I know a few people who like the Alien series, want to see Covenant, and they just don't know. 

This level of revelation is nothing new if you're hunting it out, Starlog used to spoil the hell out of films with behind the scenes reports and photographs.

Sorry to be blunt, but if you feel as though you've spoiled the film that's your own fault. The description here at AvP even describes there will be a moment showing a bit of the bombing... yet you watch the clip anyway.

Also, I don't consider that I've spoiled myself if I've connected the dots already. Now I'm just being confirmed what I already knew.
Title: Re: Alien: Covenant TV Spots
Post by: Stanley on Apr 23, 2017, 04:15:46 PM
Well...on the bombing run.   In Prometheus, the vase David surreptitiously retrieved did not seem to be designed to open and aerosolize when dropped?   He had to unscrew the lid, and then pull out slime surrounded glassy viles. 

However, by just opening the door to the vase room / head room, vases started oozing black liquid, but this took several minutes to hours. 

Maybe these vases get activated somehow or have other behaviors.

I mean dropping them from on high and having them disperse perfectly?  On a one-chance-only attack effort.  It does not seem like they hit the ground and popped as the dispersal mechanism.   I guess David read the owners manual on them.  ;-)
Title: Re: Alien: Covenant TV Spots
Post by: The Eighth Passenger on Apr 23, 2017, 04:38:18 PM
Quote from: juxtapose on Apr 23, 2017, 12:57:34 PM
. .whats this talk about an international trailer that shows the actual bombing. .when did this happen. .is it another tv spot or a full cinematic trailer?. .as for tv spots. .i know about. .run pray hide and the shaw one. .is their any others available on youtube?

There's a second or two of bombing footage in the new Vietnamese TV spot. I suspect we'll see more of it in the final trailer.

Quote from: szkoki on Apr 23, 2017, 02:58:18 PM
Quote from: Walter on Apr 23, 2017, 12:22:30 PM
No any single Engineer's did not alive ?

http://i.imgur.com/JWoa76C.gif

http://i.imgur.com/FVoAMLe.gif

wondering if is this a payback for Weyland or he just playing around or he is still trying harder

Probably payback for his head getting ripped off. David's a smart boy, he isn't taking any chances this time.
Title: Re: Alien: Covenant TV Spots
Post by: rabidranger on Apr 23, 2017, 04:42:39 PM
Quote from: Evanus on Apr 23, 2017, 03:00:54 PM
I read somewhere that David cries while bombing the engineers. I wonder why. Does he think it's beautiful? Or is he sad?  ???

Wasn't it because it didn't achieve the desired result? I have a feeling that "failure" fuels his research efforts which apparently takes up the bulk of his time on the planet until the Covenant crew arrive.
Title: Re: Alien: Covenant TV Spots
Post by: cliffhanger on Apr 23, 2017, 04:46:08 PM
or he's crying because he's oddly enough actually feeling the unforgivable act he is doing, despite thinking what he's doing is actually the right thing to do, or his purpose, if you may.
Title: Re: Alien: Covenant TV Spots
Post by: ReluctantNerd on Apr 23, 2017, 04:46:30 PM
Quote from: Stanley on Apr 23, 2017, 04:15:46 PM
Well...on the bombing run.   In Prometheus, the vase David surreptitiously retrieved did not seem to be designed to open and aerosolize when dropped?   He had to unscrew the lid, and then pull out slime surrounded glassy viles. 

However, by just opening the door to the vase room / head room, vases started oozing black liquid, but this took several minutes to hours. 

Maybe these vases get activated somehow or have other behaviors.

I mean dropping them from on high and having them disperse perfectly?  On a one-chance-only attack effort.  It does not seem like they hit the ground and popped as the dispersal mechanism.   I guess David read the owners manual on them.  ;-)

Yeah I was thinking the same thing. The ampule David examines in Prom has a configuration inside that looks like it should shatter on impact, thus mixing different fluids that probably only become dangerous when mixed. But the ampules in the head room start sweating black liquid from the top, perhaps in reaction to atmospheric difference (or the presence of humans?). I don't expect this to be explained or expanded on in Covenant as I think it's just one symptom of Prometheus being a patchwork of different plots that got Lindeloffed as well.
Title: Re: Alien: Covenant TV Spots
Post by: cliffhanger on Apr 23, 2017, 04:59:00 PM
Quote from: Walter on Apr 23, 2017, 12:22:30 PM
No any single Engineer's did not alive ?

http://i.imgur.com/JWoa76C.gif

http://i.imgur.com/FVoAMLe.gif

yes there definately are survivors. how many remains to be seen. well, survivors of that certain ordeal.
I can't state whether there will be a single engineer alive after those 10 years.

but i can guarantee there is atleast 1 survivor from that whole event, and that is because there is a humangineer disected standing like a statue,
and there's one on the table with it's chest or abdomen opened wide. david has been a buzy bee. i can't imagine that happened before the events
of the vase dropping, because first of all, the vase dropping scene, david is wearing his prometheus uniform still, suggesting there is little chance
he has landed and at certain point changed clothes.

He does change clothes at points, as if it's indeed him when cap gets facehugged then he's clearly wearing something different to his prometheus wear and also had a haircut. he's also wearing some sort of humangineer robe at some point with long hair. the empire shots also show clearly that he's aboard the scorpionaut, dropping the payload. there's a spoiler that the juggernaut connects to the scorpionaut so surely david boards it at certain point, we can assume shaw stays aboard the juggernaut then.

i can also imagine shaw enraging for what david does and starts shooting at the scropionaut which causes a battle in which shaw crashes into the forests. but that's rather imagination instead of factual base.

point is, even if this scene takes part midway during the movie, it's a flashback of an event that surely must have happened rather shortly after they arrive on the planet.

so do humangineers survive this event? yes. undoubtedly. will tehre be a single survivor from the planet when the covenant arrives? that remains to be seen. i woudn't find it impossible to have a handful of survivors, but i'm not expecting such.


Quote from: ReluctantNerd on Apr 23, 2017, 04:46:30 PM
Quote from: Stanley on Apr 23, 2017, 04:15:46 PM
Well...on the bombing run.   In Prometheus, the vase David surreptitiously retrieved did not seem to be designed to open and aerosolize when dropped?   He had to unscrew the lid, and then pull out slime surrounded glassy viles. 

However, by just opening the door to the vase room / head room, vases started oozing black liquid, but this took several minutes to hours. 

Maybe these vases get activated somehow or have other behaviors.

I mean dropping them from on high and having them disperse perfectly?  On a one-chance-only attack effort.  It does not seem like they hit the ground and popped as the dispersal mechanism.   I guess David read the owners manual on them.  ;-)

Yeah I was thinking the same thing. The ampule David examines in Prom has a configuration inside that looks like it should shatter on impact, thus mixing different fluids that probably only become dangerous when mixed. But the ampules in the head room start sweating black liquid from the top, perhaps in reaction to atmospheric difference (or the presence of humans?). I don't expect this to be explained or expanded on in Covenant as I think it's just one symptom of Prometheus being a patchwork of different plots that got Lindeloffed as well.

double load vases? chemical warfare in different compounds? ergo, like a neutron-bomb,atom-bomb and VX-gas bomb all packed together?
Title: Re: Alien: Covenant TV Spots
Post by: Pvt. Himmel on Apr 23, 2017, 06:29:38 PM
   https://mobile.twitter.com/AlienMoviesUK/status/856206043981824000  (https://mobile.twitter.com/AlienMoviesUK/status/856206043981824000)
Title: Re: Alien: Covenant TV Spots
Post by: CainsSon on Apr 23, 2017, 07:19:09 PM
Quote from: Corporal Hicks on Apr 22, 2017, 10:21:35 PM
Can we relax here gentleman. There's no need to get bent out shape here.  Disagreements are going to happen but if folk can't do it like adults or take criticism, don't get involved.

Not trying to moderate but to add:
This is an Alien fan, message board. Of course we take it more seriously than other places would, if we're here, but it's supposed to be fun and communal. There is such a thing as taking ourselves TOO SERIOUSLY folks. Our identity on a message board is nothing to get all offended about.
Just relax. There really is no reason this needs to be tense.
Title: Re: Alien: Covenant TV Spots
Post by: Huggs on Apr 23, 2017, 07:25:43 PM
The xenomorph looks gorgeous. That "train-like" style of the head is giving off serious Giger-Vibes. I'll throw a few random thoughts out here.

1. If David does cry when he destroys the engineers, I'm assuming it's because of the act itself. He's definitely evil enough to think it's beautiful. However, I personally think it's due to the fact that he's eradicating the "superior species". His animosity towards humans is understandable, but much could be learned from the engineers; David did seem very taken (for lack of a better word) with the engineer in Prometheus right before it tore his head off.

2. I do think, and indeed do hope that the juggernaut from Covenant is the same one from Alien 1979. With the warning heard by the nostromo being the same signal the covenant receives, or maybe a warning activated by a dying engineer to warn any returning exploration vessels or traveling engineers to stay away. Ridely has all the ingrediants needed to make it the same ship. A world infected by black goo, a terraforming expert, the engineers terraforming technology discussed in a previous draft of Prometheus, and david actively manufacturing eggs on the planet. What if the eggs from the original film was davids surplus? what if he found a way to turn the urns or their contents into eggs? Regardless, I'm afraid if Ridley doesn't take this opportunity to explain the Juggernaut, the ship is going to become like Carmine from gears of war. We'll have one wrecked juggernaut after another, and it will become a running gag over four movies, ending in a "thank god he finally picked one" moment.

3. I think the large citadel is a place of worship, most likely containing the large stone heads we've seen before. Obviously David has caught them unawares, perhaps leaving a service of some sort. The fact that the engineers have it somewhat centered in the city and are dressed like monks has me thinking this is a theocracy. The thing I'm most curious about is this. With the engineers obviously being hostile towards humanity, and david, and the fact that they've been developing bio-organic weaponry, is it possible that the Engineers are actually quite savage? Did David kill them because they are (in fact) a selfish and violent people? Or is it possible that this is merely one city of many encompassing the same planet/system, giving rise to different (and possibly warring) nations or sects, with varying levels of religious/social tolerance? A "superior species" that's so far been hostile and wishes to commit global genocide, I hope they're not going to be made into space nazis. That's it, someone call Captain Blaskowitz.  :)
Title: Re: Alien: Covenant TV Spots
Post by: Valaquen on Apr 23, 2017, 09:08:01 PM
Quote from: Pvt. Himmel on Apr 22, 2017, 08:54:59 PM
https://twitter.com/BeatFassbender/status/855881606527148032 (https://twitter.com/BeatFassbender/status/855881606527148032)


Quote from: Valaquen on Apr 22, 2017, 08:10:43 PM
Any nice screencaps going around?

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Thank you  :)
Title: Re: Alien: Covenant TV Spots
Post by: SpeedyMaxx on Apr 23, 2017, 09:21:29 PM
I think if David felt the Engineers were still superior he would not destroy them.

My take on his arc in Prometheus is not dissimilar to Shaw's own disillusionment, albeit more cold - he sees they died, can die and calls them 'human after all', prone to frailty due to their own experiments and mistakes which wiped them out. Prone to rage which allows Shaw to overtake the sleeping Engineer and defeat it. They're also inherently flawed by creating a species David deems unworthy: humanity, their creation.

I think David's take is that both species have profoundly failed, are inherently compromised, and the slate must be wiped for something new.
Spoiler
This is evidently rooted in the alleged prologue, in which a young Weyland waxes rhapsodic to David about the nature of perfection - something David becomes obsessed with. He feels and thinks too much, too much like a human, and his fixation ultimately becomes lethal and evidently leads to engineering or recreating the alien as the end result of that drive for 'perfection' - and to annihilate imperfections, like humanity.
[close]

Personally I find it a bit too obvious and pat for the character, but that's JMO.
Title: Re: Alien: Covenant TV Spots
Post by: cliffhanger on Apr 23, 2017, 09:27:48 PM
Wasn't there some mention that david has a dangerous combo of 'personality treats' that included anger and rage? which would imply anger/rage is the reason he does what he does? i think i remember reading such a thing
Title: Re: Alien: Covenant TV Spots
Post by: SpeedyMaxx on Apr 23, 2017, 09:32:52 PM
Yes, David has emotional traits (or simulacrums of them) which lead to his developing the complex about perfection that he does, which leads to his
Spoiler
wiping out the Engineers and targeting humanity.
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Title: Re: Alien: Covenant TV Spots
Post by: Pvt. Himmel on Apr 23, 2017, 11:19:21 PM
Quote from: Valaquen on Apr 23, 2017, 09:08:01 PM
Quote from: Pvt. Himmel on Apr 22, 2017, 08:54:59 PM
https://twitter.com/BeatFassbender/status/855881606527148032 (https://twitter.com/BeatFassbender/status/855881606527148032)


Quote from: Valaquen on Apr 22, 2017, 08:10:43 PM
Any nice screencaps going around?

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Thank you  :)
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Title: Re: Alien: Covenant TV Spots
Post by: CainsSon on Apr 24, 2017, 04:47:41 AM
Quote from: Pvt. Himmel on Apr 22, 2017, 08:54:59 PM
https://twitter.com/BeatFassbender/status/855881606527148032 (https://twitter.com/BeatFassbender/status/855881606527148032)


Quote from: Valaquen on Apr 22, 2017, 08:10:43 PM
Any nice screencaps going around?

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Anybody else notice that the Black Goo not only seems to be flowing from inside the Xeno's mouth but also dripping from it's body? It looks like there is Goo dripping off the dome too.
It could just be slime, but the black stuff coming from inside its mouth is certainly there. Color coincidence? Or Black Goo?
Title: Re: Alien: Covenant TV Spots
Post by: NickisSmart on Apr 24, 2017, 07:56:41 AM
I'm posting this here, because it concerns the special effects, as found in the TV spots and trailers, etc...

https://www.youtube.com/edit?video_id=jsr4m1HqR3Q

Mitch Brian, from the Alien(s) Minute podcast, likes to poo-poo the CGI effects in Alien: Covenant, in regards to the alien in that film not looking "real" when compared to the creature in Alien. But is he right? Are practical effects intrinsically superior by virtue of being practical? Or is there more to it, than that? Here's my take on the matter...

The original post, made by Mitch, can be found, here: https://www.facebook.com/groups/alienminute/permalink/375206582879680/
Title: Re: Alien: Covenant TV Spots
Post by: markweatherill on Apr 24, 2017, 11:36:26 AM
Quote from: The Eighth Passenger on Apr 23, 2017, 04:38:18 PM

There's a second or two of bombing footage in the new Vietnamese TV spot.

All done in the best possible taste.
Title: Re: Alien: Covenant TV Spots
Post by: fernandito on Apr 24, 2017, 12:18:40 PM
Quote from: NickisSmart on Apr 24, 2017, 07:56:41 AM
Are practical effects intrinsically superior by virtue of being practical? Or is there more to it, than that? Here's my take on the matter...
as long as they are handle with the mastery of the first film, then imo yes.

After complying with this rule, then the next requierement lies in the watchers part. I mean. If you still want to see a main in a suit when magistral acting; atmosphere; setting (nostromo corridors); and wise camera displacement are all used in a gorgeous manner, then you will see a man in a suit. A suitable punish for all those who are like that, and a bless for the others like me and many fo you too, of course.

A L I E N will probably be never overcome by any other terror film, unless something new, refresing, but most importantly good enough suddenly surprises us all. And that was precisely what happened in '79. The premise of an alien creature in a ship and blah blah was already not original by then, but the end result of this b movie was something to never be seen and enjoyed again. Only perhaps in alien3, but of course not at the level of alien.

The loss of Giger will still remain immeasurable anyway. After the first film and the obviously superior and immensely more scary creature from the first film, as well as Scott's magistral sue of it on the screen (the discented camera angles, etc), the alien has not been properly portrayed on the screen in a way that legitimately can scare you since the scene in alien 3 when Ripley finds the alien in the basement, and this one drops down from the ceiling as a puppet, not cgi. This was the last time the alien was scary, in that alien3 scene
Title: Re: Alien: Covenant TV Spots
Post by: Citadel on Apr 24, 2017, 12:43:03 PM
Quote from: NickisSmart on Apr 24, 2017, 07:56:41 AM
Are practical effects intrinsically superior by virtue of being practical? Or is there more to it, than that?
When done right, sure. Alien is still effective because it was done so convincingly, though there's no doubt parts of the film age just as much as CGI does nowadays. The xeno being blown out of the airlock, for example. There's no mistaking that for anything other than a guy in a suit.

CGI does work, and Ridley has obviously opted to use more of it because of its versatility in today's industry. If absolutely everything in Covenant was practical it'd be too noticeable. Instead of being invested in the film we'd simply be looking out for the next puppet/moment. It'd be distracting. I think the CGI this time round looks amazing. The xeno hasn't looked this good since its first reveal in Alien. The ship looks great when landing, and the CG facehugger looks brilliant from the spots. I do want practical moments in there, though. The eggs look spectacular, and I'm sure that's all done for real. The stationary ship on the surface looks great. I wouldn't be surprised if every practical piece in Covenant is touched up with CG in some way or another, anyhow.
Title: Re: Alien: Covenant TV Spots
Post by: mn2movies on Apr 24, 2017, 04:12:20 PM
i am so excited about this movie,  some worry is it gonna live up to previous standards,  relax people,  its hollywood  let ridley do his thing,  i do hope the other move with sigourney and michael are made in due time,  hope they give the other director his chance, but either way i am glad they are making new films,  i can remember a few yrs back  being so sad that the franchise was over,  then the huge let downs when avp and avpr came out,  i for one loved prometheus,  after all,  gotta keep it exciting,  i do hope that the 3rd film in this franchise will answer some questions about the engineers,  we need more details , penny for your thoughts,  anybody..  just a huge fan   and no im not as computer savy as some of you,  ive tried to post news videos  but somebody always beats me to it,  love this website,  thank you to everybody that makes it happen
Title: Re: Alien: Covenant TV Spots
Post by: cafam2000 on Apr 24, 2017, 06:34:40 PM
New TV spot with some new footage

Title: Re: Alien: Covenant TV Spots
Post by: cliffhanger on Apr 24, 2017, 07:02:44 PM
that's quite a deep, membraneless ear-channel by the looks of it, lol :P
Title: Re: Alien: Covenant TV Spots
Post by: Pvt. Himmel on Apr 26, 2017, 10:23:16 AM
A little too close for comfort... Daniels .vs the xeno.

(https://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.alien-covenant.com%2Faliencovenant_uploads%2Fxb_%2C2810%2C29.png.pagespeed.ic.oFVWOiXnFf.png&hash=199ac950b0a49b1633f378dc466f768cc606eaa2)
(https://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.alien-covenant.com%2Faliencovenant_uploads%2Fxb_%2C2811%2C29.png.pagespeed.ic.8k0PbXsVJt.png&hash=71ef557a8577c91f3eb50443ea3a9f4d794bab85)
Title: Re: Alien: Covenant TV Spots
Post by: cliffhanger on Apr 26, 2017, 11:49:15 AM
nice, good angle. not sure if i'm enjoying this being a far too similar situation with ripley in the narcissus though.
will she actually survive? o.O


Quote from: cafam2000 on Apr 24, 2017, 06:34:40 PM
New TV spot with some new footage

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VGKn2p_2Yk4

btw, at about 0:21 in this spot you can hear the Alien screeching like those did in Aliens....!
Title: Re: Alien: Covenant TV Spots
Post by: rabidranger on Apr 26, 2017, 12:48:18 PM
In essence she's coming face to face with Oram reborn?
Title: Re: Alien: Covenant TV Spots
Post by: acidreign on Apr 26, 2017, 02:31:00 PM


Adam Savage (of Myth Busters fame) touring what he calls the "Dreadnought" (I'm assuming this is the David/Shaw juggernaut) set.

The Giger-style biomechanical corridor appears to be part of this ship, along with the less organic style of tunnel as seen in Prometheus.

Both styles existing in the same ship is interesting. Wonder if it has any significance.


Oops looks like someone started a thread about this already!
Title: Re: Alien: Covenant TV Spots
Post by: M_Tak on Apr 28, 2017, 11:11:17 AM
New spot and nice looking Xeno




Title: Re: Alien: Covenant TV Spots
Post by: Pvt. Himmel on Apr 28, 2017, 01:27:24 PM
"Let's kill this Fuc**er!!

Daniels is gonna kick A$$!! 8)
Title: Re: Alien: Covenant TV Spots
Post by: echobbase79 on Apr 28, 2017, 01:31:18 PM

That line reminded me of this scene from Ed Wood. lol

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UIry7GepMh4 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UIry7GepMh4)

But yes, Daniels is going to kick some ass!
Title: Re: Alien: Covenant TV Spots
Post by: salomonj on Apr 28, 2017, 02:07:48 PM
What does the spot show? I wanna see it but i feel that I've seen to much already
Title: Re: Alien: Covenant TV Spots
Post by: Citadel on Apr 28, 2017, 02:37:42 PM
Quote from: salomonj on Apr 28, 2017, 02:07:48 PM
What does the spot show? I wanna see it but i feel that I've seen to much already
Nothing new if you've seen the other spots. Just a different angle on the xeno pouncing forward.
Title: Re: Alien: Covenant TV Spots
Post by: Corporal Hicks on Apr 28, 2017, 06:08:32 PM
Quote from: salomonj on Apr 28, 2017, 02:07:48 PM
What does the spot show? I wanna see it but i feel that I've seen to much already

2 new bits of dialogue from Tennessee and Daniels too but nothing really much. Looks good though.
Title: Re: Alien: Covenant TV Spots
Post by: salomonj on Apr 28, 2017, 06:20:11 PM
Quote from: Corporal Hicks on Apr 28, 2017, 06:08:32 PM
Quote from: salomonj on Apr 28, 2017, 02:07:48 PM
What does the spot show? I wanna see it but i feel that I've seen to much already

2 new bits of dialogue from Tennessee and Daniels too but nothing really much. Looks good though.
just watched it. I love this cut and Daniels new bit of dialogue was great
Title: Re: Alien: Covenant TV Spots
Post by: rabidranger on Apr 29, 2017, 12:31:29 AM
I don't know-from this video it doesn't look like the juggernaut crashed. Looks too "orderly" for that.
Title: Re: Alien: Covenant TV Spots
Post by: echobbase79 on Apr 29, 2017, 01:34:02 AM
Never seen this one.



Oh it's a fan edit. Still pretty good.
Title: Re: Alien: Covenant TV Spots
Post by: salomonj on Apr 29, 2017, 02:05:53 AM
Quote from: echobbase79 on Apr 29, 2017, 01:34:02 AM
Never seen this one.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K_sQjdn6VfE

Oh it's a fan edit. Still pretty good.
Very eerie
Title: Re: Alien: Covenant TV Spots
Post by: echobbase79 on Apr 29, 2017, 02:58:40 AM
Quote from: salomonj on Apr 29, 2017, 02:05:53 AM
Quote from: echobbase79 on Apr 29, 2017, 01:34:02 AM
Never seen this one.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K_sQjdn6VfE

Oh it's a fan edit. Still pretty good.
Very eerie

Seems to capture the tragedy of the story quite well.
Title: Re: Alien: Covenant TV Spots
Post by: echobbase79 on Apr 30, 2017, 03:31:50 PM

Has anyone seen this?

Title: Re: Alien: Covenant TV Spots
Post by: Ingwar on Apr 30, 2017, 03:33:09 PM
Quote from: echobbase79 on Apr 30, 2017, 03:31:50 PM

Has anyone seen this?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i4jHOrCuBKw

Yeah. It's old :)
Title: Re: Alien: Covenant TV Spots
Post by: echobbase79 on Apr 30, 2017, 03:37:28 PM
Quote from: Ingwar on Apr 30, 2017, 03:33:09 PM
Quote from: echobbase79 on Apr 30, 2017, 03:31:50 PM

Has anyone seen this?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i4jHOrCuBKw

Yeah. It's old :)

Oh okay. Just wanted to make sure. :) I'd never seen it. Playing catch up with some of these tv spots.
Title: Re: Alien: Covenant TV Spots
Post by: Whos_Nick on May 01, 2017, 06:50:03 AM
Anyone think we'll be getting some official clips soon?
Title: Re: Alien: Covenant TV Spots
Post by: Corporal Hicks on May 01, 2017, 12:29:40 PM


I quite like the music in the first one. Apparently came via Fox Norway.

Quote from: Whos_Nick on May 01, 2017, 06:50:03 AM
Anyone think we'll be getting some official clips soon?

We'll likely get a couple of heavily edited preview scenes in the next week or so.
Title: Re: Alien: Covenant TV Spots
Post by: M_Tak on May 01, 2017, 03:36:07 PM
There's a new spot on the official Facebook
Page with footage of the Covenant from underneath the ship with the bay doors open. There was also a wide long shot of the hooded figure firing a flare into the air showing evwrything on fire.
Title: Re: Alien: Covenant TV Spots
Post by: Pvt. Himmel on May 01, 2017, 03:41:18 PM
Quote from: M_Tak on May 01, 2017, 03:36:07 PM
There's a new spot on the official Facebook
Page with footage of the Covenant from underneath the ship with the bay doors open. There was also a wide long shot of the hooded figure firing a flare into the air showing evwrything on fire.
Do you have a link/source???
Title: Re: Alien: Covenant TV Spots
Post by: Enoch on May 01, 2017, 04:03:56 PM
Quote from: Corporal Hicks on May 01, 2017, 12:29:40 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FkQVqoCx8mk

I quite like the music in the first one. Apparently came via Fox Norway.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ub-U19BWidg (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ub-U19BWidg)
Title: Re: Alien: Covenant TV Spots
Post by: Corporal Hicks on May 01, 2017, 04:42:42 PM
Quote from: M_Tak on May 01, 2017, 03:36:07 PM
There's a new spot on the official Facebook
Page with footage of the Covenant from underneath the ship with the bay doors open. There was also a wide long shot of the hooded figure firing a flare into the air showing evwrything on fire.

Which region? It's not on the UK one yet.

Quote from: Enoch on May 01, 2017, 04:03:56 PM
Quote from: Corporal Hicks on May 01, 2017, 12:29:40 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FkQVqoCx8mk

I quite like the music in the first one. Apparently came via Fox Norway.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ub-U19BWidg (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ub-U19BWidg)

Thanks!

Also can anyone remember which TV spot has the Alien being damaged by the engines (presumably)?
Title: Re: Alien: Covenant TV Spots
Post by: NickisSmart on May 01, 2017, 05:21:19 PM
One of the TV spots. Might be Tennessee's crew message.
Title: Re: Alien: Covenant TV Spots
Post by: Predaker on May 01, 2017, 05:27:35 PM
Yeah, think it's in one of the crew message videos.

Here's a gif of it from ChrisPachi

Quote from: ChrisPachi on Apr 19, 2017, 09:45:14 AM
Made a gif.

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(https://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.coinbox.com.au%2Fforty%2Fboo.gif&hash=d0d2b5e7d49bbf09960ea41e1bb1e08ba78ee138)
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I think they might of pissed it off.
Title: Re: Alien: Covenant TV Spots
Post by: cliffhanger on May 01, 2017, 05:32:19 PM
Quote from: echobbase79 on Apr 29, 2017, 01:34:02 AM
Never seen this one.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K_sQjdn6VfE

Oh it's a fan edit. Still pretty good.


that was pretty amazing.
Title: Re: Alien: Covenant TV Spots
Post by: Pvt. Himmel on May 01, 2017, 05:37:03 PM
And this one.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uuS2jWrd-Uk (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uuS2jWrd-Uk)
Title: Re: Alien: Covenant TV Spots
Post by: Corporal Hicks on May 01, 2017, 05:37:54 PM
Quote from: NickisSmart on May 01, 2017, 05:21:19 PM
One of the TV spots. Might be Tennessee's crew message.

That's it! Thanks.
Title: Re: Alien: Covenant TV Spots
Post by: M_Tak on May 01, 2017, 06:18:40 PM
This is on the UK page, the one i was talking about earlier showing the ship from underneath with the door open.

https://www.facebook.com/AlienMovieUK/videos/1721280817913024/ (https://www.facebook.com/AlienMovieUK/videos/1721280817913024/)



Title: Re: Alien: Covenant TV Spots
Post by: Xeno_from_Belgium on May 01, 2017, 06:47:25 PM
Some news shots ! wow :o
Gorgeous !
Title: Re: Alien: Covenant TV Spots
Post by: Corporal Hicks on May 01, 2017, 06:49:55 PM
Looks like an extended shot of the flare being sent up too. Also, weird cropping on that.
Title: Re: Alien: Covenant TV Spots
Post by: echobbase79 on May 01, 2017, 06:50:45 PM

Love this shot!

(https://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2F7SrQPrb.png&hash=eae26dbe9987077f1ac2529ea590ab5cb7ecaf4e)
Title: Re: Alien: Covenant TV Spots
Post by: cliffhanger on May 01, 2017, 06:51:46 PM
Quote from: echobbase79 on May 01, 2017, 06:50:45 PM

Love this shot!

(https://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2F7SrQPrb.png&hash=eae26dbe9987077f1ac2529ea590ab5cb7ecaf4e)

trying to figure out what it is, i have no lcue at all?????
Title: Re: Alien: Covenant TV Spots
Post by: Corporal Hicks on May 01, 2017, 06:52:20 PM
It's the flare being sent up in the aftermath of the dropship's destruction.
Title: Re: Alien: Covenant TV Spots
Post by: salomonj on May 01, 2017, 06:53:18 PM
Quote from: echobbase79 on May 01, 2017, 06:50:45 PM

Love this shot!

(https://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2F7SrQPrb.png&hash=eae26dbe9987077f1ac2529ea590ab5cb7ecaf4e)
Yeah, that shot is incredible.
Title: Re: Alien: Covenant TV Spots
Post by: cliffhanger on May 01, 2017, 06:55:57 PM
Quote from: Corporal Hicks on May 01, 2017, 06:52:20 PM
It's the flare being sent up in the aftermath of the dropship's destruction.

oh wow, i didnt notice it was david there being so tiny, thanks for the clarification! awesome!
Title: Re: Alien: Covenant TV Spots
Post by: echobbase79 on May 01, 2017, 06:56:21 PM
I hope they use that take of Daniels where she says,"We don't know what's out there?"

It's much better than the one used in the redband trailer.
Title: Re: Alien: Covenant TV Spots
Post by: Anthony on May 01, 2017, 07:33:21 PM
"Their mission to save mankind" Hmmmmm....
Title: Re: Alien: Covenant TV Spots
Post by: John Doe on May 01, 2017, 07:39:23 PM
Quote from: echobbase79 on May 01, 2017, 06:50:45 PM

Love this shot!

(https://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2F7SrQPrb.png&hash=eae26dbe9987077f1ac2529ea590ab5cb7ecaf4e)

Looks like David presentation.
Title: Re: Alien: Covenant TV Spots
Post by: cliffhanger on May 01, 2017, 07:41:16 PM
I assume that is about the potential that Earth at one point in time will become uninhabitable so they'll make sure humanity as a species survives by sending them to several other planets that can host and support life.

if i had to take the lines in the trailer literal, then there's another little point there called 'only in theaters' which would imply it never gets on DVD. but we all know it will, so......
Title: Re: Alien: Covenant TV Spots
Post by: Pvt. Himmel on May 02, 2017, 04:13:28 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_o5RyNjBGEc (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_o5RyNjBGEc)
Title: Re: Alien: Covenant TV Spots
Post by: Corporal Hicks on May 02, 2017, 07:11:32 PM
Think that's the same one I shared earlier, isn't it?
Title: Re: Alien: Covenant TV Spots
Post by: salomonj on May 03, 2017, 02:07:30 AM
https://twitter.com/Kellvin_Chavez/status/859588997588422657



I really like this one


https://twitter.com/Kellvin_Chavez/status/859587006455844865



Looks like there's a second one

*embedded videos. Hicks.
Title: Re: Alien: Covenant TV Spots
Post by: Immortan Jonesy on May 03, 2017, 02:27:10 AM
Quote from: salomonj on May 03, 2017, 02:07:30 AM
https://twitter.com/Kellvin_Chavez/status/859588997588422657

I really like this one


https://twitter.com/Kellvin_Chavez/status/859587006455844865

Looks like there's a second one

Nice to see some new footage of the Alien and the bombing sequence  8)
Title: Re: Alien: Covenant TV Spots
Post by: Whos_Nick on May 03, 2017, 02:32:19 AM
Those spots are great
Title: Re: Alien: Covenant TV Spots
Post by: echobbase79 on May 03, 2017, 02:55:39 AM

Damn those a really f**king good!

That shot of
Spoiler
Walter freaking out literally made me jump! Also, the shot of David watching Oram convulse was another highlight.
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Spoiler
(https://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FtXVUbi6.png&hash=25cc57d2a5c87ca9dde9eb08018e7e7482d8cbda)
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Title: Re: Alien: Covenant TV Spots
Post by: salomonj on May 03, 2017, 03:17:07 AM
Quote from: echobbase79 on May 03, 2017, 02:55:39 AM

Damn those a really f**king good!

That shot of
Spoiler
Walter freaking out literally made me jump! Also, the shot of David watching Oram convulse was another highlight.
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Spoiler
(https://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FtXVUbi6.png&hash=25cc57d2a5c87ca9dde9eb08018e7e7482d8cbda)
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Agreed, both those shots are amazing, especially
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David watching Oram get chestburst.
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Title: Re: Alien: Covenant TV Spots
Post by: echobbase79 on May 03, 2017, 03:23:42 AM
Quote from: salomonj on May 03, 2017, 03:17:07 AM
Quote from: echobbase79 on May 03, 2017, 02:55:39 AM

Damn those a really f**king good!

That shot of
Spoiler
Walter freaking out literally made me jump! Also, the shot of David watching Oram convulse was another highlight.
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Spoiler
(https://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FtXVUbi6.png&hash=25cc57d2a5c87ca9dde9eb08018e7e7482d8cbda)
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Agreed, both those shots are amazing, especially
Spoiler
David watching Oram get chestburst.
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It wonder if Walter
Spoiler
is trying to imitate being scared in that scene? I say this because others have mentioned how he shows very little emotion to the throat burster death.
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Title: Re: Alien: Covenant TV Spots
Post by: SpeedyMaxx on May 03, 2017, 03:24:57 AM
Both those spots are great, because they add character to Daniels and the dynamic between the two characters. They also touch on something I've suspected for a few months is part of the narrative - Oram (and possibly others) wanting to abandon their planned voyage to their original destination, in favor of this new 'perfect' planet.
Title: Re: Alien: Covenant TV Spots
Post by: NickisSmart on May 03, 2017, 03:44:59 AM
Not sure if Oram is an asshole, or a dumbass.
Title: Re: Alien: Covenant TV Spots
Post by: Ragonk_Force on May 03, 2017, 03:52:14 AM
That shot of the hallway after davids eye is just gorgeous. Ridleys visual style cant be touched. Great spots
Title: Re: Alien: Covenant TV Spots
Post by: NickisSmart on May 03, 2017, 04:17:45 AM
Quote from: Ragonk_Force on May 03, 2017, 03:52:14 AM
That shot of the hallway after davids eye is just gorgeos. Ridleys visual style cant be touched. Great spots

I thought the same thing.

In one of the spots, a figure his "laughing" with his eyes rolled into the back of his head. Is that... Walter?
Title: Re: Alien: Covenant TV Spots
Post by: Ragonk_Force on May 03, 2017, 04:35:32 AM
Quote from: NickisSmart on May 03, 2017, 04:17:45 AM
Quote from: Ragonk_Force on May 03, 2017, 03:52:14 AM
That shot of the hallway after davids eye is just gorgeos. Ridleys visual style cant be touched. Great spots


I thought the same thing.

In one of the spots, a figure his "laughing" with his eyes rolled into the back of his head. Is that... Walter?
I thought he was screaming, looked creepy either way. Cant tell who it is though
Title: Re: Alien: Covenant TV Spots
Post by: Whos_Nick on May 03, 2017, 05:11:13 AM
not sure that is Walter
Title: Re: Alien: Covenant TV Spots
Post by: Clowndog on May 03, 2017, 06:31:36 AM
Quote from: Whos_Nick on May 03, 2017, 05:11:13 AM
not sure that is Walter

Which ever one it is, their eyes turn completely white at the end of the snippet so I don't think something positive is happening to them.
Title: Re: Alien: Covenant TV Spots
Post by: tuskhaus on May 03, 2017, 06:40:27 AM
The vases falling in a spiraling double helix pattern to mimic DNA is actually brilliant.
Title: Re: Alien: Covenant TV Spots
Post by: cliffhanger on May 03, 2017, 07:48:35 AM
i don't see how that's walter, really.
Title: Re: Alien: Covenant TV Spots
Post by: Corporal Hicks on May 03, 2017, 07:55:30 AM
Really digging those new TV spots! Like Maxx says, they add a nice bit of character to Daniels and some lovely imagery. Will get these frontpaged shortly.
Title: Re: Alien: Covenant TV Spots
Post by: tuskhaus on May 03, 2017, 07:56:46 AM
Quote from: cliffhanger on May 03, 2017, 07:48:35 AM
i don't see how that's walter, really.

Not a great capture because it's between frames, but it's Walter.

Spoiler
Looks like he's being stabbed in the side of the neck with the flute. I had a hunch David would use the flute to kill Walter, but I thought he'd shove it through Walter's mouth and out the back of his head while he was playing it, alluding to Ash shoving the magazine in Ripley's mouth.
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Title: Re: Alien: Covenant TV Spots
Post by: whiterabbit on May 03, 2017, 08:49:47 AM
Damn f**ks, they just throw that kind of stuff into a random tv trailer... it's utterly unavoidable to not get spoiled at this rate. Was just watching batman on spike and then the covenant trailer came on and I thought I saw fassbender getting stabbed in the neck. Why do they do shit like this.
Title: Re: Alien: Covenant TV Spots
Post by: Pvt. Himmel on May 03, 2017, 10:05:33 AM
Quote from: Corporal Hicks on May 02, 2017, 07:11:32 PM
Think that's the same one I shared earlier, isn't it?
I think it might be. :)
Title: Re: Alien: Covenant TV Spots
Post by: Evanus on May 03, 2017, 10:29:22 AM
Wow, Walter isn't looking very good in that tv spot.  :o
Title: Re: Alien: Covenant TV Spots
Post by: El Diablo on May 03, 2017, 11:47:32 AM
Quote from: NickisSmart on May 03, 2017, 03:44:59 AM
Not sure if Oram is an asshole, or a dumbass.

I think Crudup said in a recent interview that they had originally wanted him to play it as sort of a villain but he didn't think that was right for the character.
Spoiler
In the film he comes across as unseasoned but well intentioned. He's suddenly placed in a position of authority and doesn't want to be undermined by his crew.
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Title: Re: Alien: Covenant TV Spots
Post by: echobbase79 on May 03, 2017, 07:09:52 PM
Quote from: CoalescedChaos on May 03, 2017, 07:56:46 AM
Quote from: cliffhanger on May 03, 2017, 07:48:35 AM
i don't see how that's walter, really.

Not a great capture because it's between frames, but it's Walter.

Spoiler
Looks like he's being stabbed in the side of the neck with the flute. I had a hunch David would use the flute to kill Walter, but I thought he'd shove it through Walter's mouth and out the back of his head while he was playing it, alluding to Ash shoving the magazine in Ripley's mouth.
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Yeah, that shot freaked me out when I saw it. I wasn't expecting it!
Title: Re: Alien: Covenant TV Spots
Post by: iain on May 03, 2017, 08:04:11 PM
Alien: Covenant | Sacrifice https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v5M9yb5rvH0
Alien: Covenant | Hidden Planet https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qL9fRG_C96A
Alien: Covenant | MU-TH-UR https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h4a-VACCki8
Alien: Covenant | Responsibility https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fh-Kq9Qn-l0
Title: Re: Alien: Covenant TV Spots
Post by: Ingwar on May 03, 2017, 08:34:01 PM
Quote from: echobbase79 on May 03, 2017, 07:09:52 PM
Quote from: CoalescedChaos on May 03, 2017, 07:56:46 AM
Quote from: cliffhanger on May 03, 2017, 07:48:35 AM
i don't see how that's walter, really.

Not a great capture because it's between frames, but it's Walter.

Spoiler
Looks like he's being stabbed in the side of the neck with the flute. I had a hunch David would use the flute to kill Walter, but I thought he'd shove it through Walter's mouth and out the back of his head while he was playing it, alluding to Ash shoving the magazine in Ripley's mouth.
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Yeah, that shot freaked me out when I saw it. I wasn't expecting it!

It looks bloody horrific!
Title: Re: Alien: Covenant TV Spots
Post by: cliffhanger on May 03, 2017, 08:40:16 PM
Quote from: CoalescedChaos on May 03, 2017, 07:56:46 AM
Quote from: cliffhanger on May 03, 2017, 07:48:35 AM
i don't see how that's walter, really.

Not a great capture because it's between frames, but it's Walter.

Spoiler
Looks like he's being stabbed in the side of the neck with the flute. I had a hunch David would use the flute to kill Walter, but I thought he'd shove it through Walter's mouth and out the back of his head while he was playing it, alluding to Ash shoving the magazine in Ripley's mouth.
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can it be actually david getting killed? you see in the reflection walter wearing his signature hat......o.O
Title: Re: Alien: Covenant TV Spots
Post by: Evanus on May 03, 2017, 08:41:41 PM
Quote from: cliffhanger on May 03, 2017, 08:40:16 PM
Quote from: CoalescedChaos on May 03, 2017, 07:56:46 AM
Quote from: cliffhanger on May 03, 2017, 07:48:35 AM
i don't see how that's walter, really.

Not a great capture because it's between frames, but it's Walter.

Spoiler
Looks like he's being stabbed in the side of the neck with the flute. I had a hunch David would use the flute to kill Walter, but I thought he'd shove it through Walter's mouth and out the back of his head while he was playing it, alluding to Ash shoving the magazine in Ripley's mouth.
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can it be actually david getting killed? you see in the reflection walter wearing his signature hat......o.O
No,
Spoiler
David kills Walter and survives.
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Title: Re: Alien: Covenant TV Spots
Post by: Ragonk_Force on May 04, 2017, 05:17:28 AM
Quote from: whiterabbit on May 03, 2017, 08:49:47 AM
Damn f**ks, they just throw that kind of stuff into a random tv trailer... it's utterly unavoidable to not get spoiled at this rate. Was just watching batman on spike and then the covenant trailer came on and I thought I saw fassbender getting stabbed in the neck. Why do they do shit like this.
Its actually easy to avoid. Dont come to the site
Title: Re: Alien: Covenant TV Spots
Post by: Lord Freezer on May 04, 2017, 06:49:37 AM
smart engineers... dna dna dna:

(https://s7.postimg.org/cfr71rxl7/fff.png)
Title: Re: Alien: Covenant TV Spots
Post by: Adorianu on May 04, 2017, 07:39:33 AM
Quote from: Lord Freezer on May 04, 2017, 06:49:37 AM
smart engineers... dna dna dna:

(https://s7.postimg.org/cfr71rxl7/fff.png)

Or smart David :)
Title: Re: Alien: Covenant TV Spots
Post by: K. Zarkon on May 04, 2017, 03:26:36 PM
Caught the "Take me home" tv spot very sneaky marketing.
Title: Re: Alien: Covenant TV Spots
Post by: rabidranger on May 04, 2017, 03:49:03 PM
Love the shot of David dropping the payload. So, these spots seem to indicate that this planet was not their intended destination and that they were "lured" there by Shaw's transmission?
Title: Re: Alien: Covenant TV Spots
Post by: Beardomorph on May 04, 2017, 03:51:31 PM
Loads of new tv spots posted on the Taiwan Fox channel on youtube. Quite a lot of new stuff but nothing too spoilery ( no backbursters ). Some gorgeous new stuff though, including more of the bombing scene... I really can't believe they considered the movie without it at some point  :o

www.youtube.com/user/twfoxmovies/videos (http://www.youtube.com/user/twfoxmovies/videos)
Title: Re: Alien: Covenant TV Spots
Post by: The Eighth Passenger on May 04, 2017, 04:03:42 PM
Nice! Here's a direct link to the new TV Spots.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3-gox10nxmg (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3-gox10nxmg)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tU_jori5mos (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tU_jori5mos)
Title: Re: Alien: Covenant TV Spots
Post by: rabidranger on May 04, 2017, 04:06:20 PM
Wow, that's quite the Engineer apocalypse!
Title: Re: Alien: Covenant TV Spots
Post by: Corporal Hicks on May 04, 2017, 04:10:34 PM
Those spots are pretty great! Lots of cool footage in there!
Title: Re: Alien: Covenant TV Spots
Post by: The Eighth Passenger on May 04, 2017, 04:11:54 PM
The Engineers are looking a bit more like Engineers now. That bombing scene is like something from Exodus!
Title: Re: Alien: Covenant TV Spots
Post by: Ragonk_Force on May 04, 2017, 04:12:43 PM
Jeez, that bombing just looks apocalyptic
Title: Re: Alien: Covenant TV Spots
Post by: kwisatz on May 04, 2017, 04:27:46 PM
Still wondering whats turning the dropped urns into this kind of apocalyptic cloud. My bet was on the Scorpionaut, but im beginning to suspect that hole in the center of the placa mightve something to do with that.
Title: Re: Alien: Covenant TV Spots
Post by: echobbase79 on May 04, 2017, 04:28:30 PM

Another creepy shot of David smiling!
Title: Re: Alien: Covenant TV Spots
Post by: Whos_Nick on May 04, 2017, 04:39:41 PM
Wow that 2nd spot has major spoilers
Title: Re: Alien: Covenant TV Spots
Post by: rabidranger on May 04, 2017, 04:45:33 PM
Quote from: kwisatz on May 04, 2017, 04:27:46 PM
Still wondering whats turning the dropped urns into this kind of apocalyptic cloud. My bet was on the Scorpionaut, but im beginning to suspect that hole in the center of the placa mightve something to do with that.

I'm interested in that as well. The hole in the ground (which is a similar mechanism to what is on is on the juggernaut and where the urns come down from) is opening up under the scorpionaut as the juggernaut arrives on scene and prepares to dock. All three components together is what could unleash this whirlwind of destruction.
Title: Re: Alien: Covenant TV Spots
Post by: kwisatz on May 04, 2017, 04:49:05 PM
Quote from: Whos_Nick on May 04, 2017, 04:39:41 PM
Wow that 2nd spot has major spoilers

Cant make out the first shot. The guy (who is it?) has some kind of stone (?) to his cheek, but the green lighting in his face is from the laser pointer of the gun, or is something green oozing from the stone to his face??
Title: Re: Alien: Covenant TV Spots
Post by: Whos_Nick on May 04, 2017, 04:50:44 PM
Quote from: kwisatz on May 04, 2017, 04:49:05 PM
Quote from: Whos_Nick on May 04, 2017, 04:39:41 PM
Wow that 2nd spot has major spoilers

Cant make out the first shot. The guy (who is it?) has some kind of stone (?) to his cheek, but the green lighting in his face is from the laser pointer of the gun, or is something green oozing from the stone to his face??

That is Demian Bichir's Sergeant Lope
Title: Re: Alien: Covenant TV Spots
Post by: kwisatz on May 04, 2017, 04:53:49 PM
Ok, but what about that thing on his cheek or is it just something from his clothes/equipment?
Title: Re: Alien: Covenant TV Spots
Post by: Evanus on May 04, 2017, 04:55:19 PM
Some kind of patch to cover a wound, I think.
Title: Re: Alien: Covenant TV Spots
Post by: Whos_Nick on May 04, 2017, 04:56:44 PM
Looks like he's got a nasty acid wound
Title: Re: Alien: Covenant TV Spots
Post by: kwisatz on May 04, 2017, 04:58:54 PM
Ah, like a burn blister? Could be i guess..
Title: Re: Alien: Covenant TV Spots
Post by: Ragonk_Force on May 04, 2017, 06:34:11 PM
Those are the best spots yet, holy shit it looks harrowing
Title: Re: Alien: Covenant TV Spots
Post by: Adorianu on May 04, 2017, 06:48:57 PM
Damn,while i have bad feelings about some stuff in the movie i must say this scene with David killing Enginners  looks like it will be amazing :D i must stop watching this spots though ;P
Title: Re: Alien: Covenant TV Spots
Post by: Citadel on May 04, 2017, 07:18:20 PM
Quote from: Adorianu on May 04, 2017, 06:48:57 PM
Damn,while i have bad feelings about some stuff in the movie i must say this scene with David killing Enginners  looks like it will be amazing :D i must stop watching this spots though ;P
Definitely refusing to watch if we get more footage of David and the city. Does it show much? It's the scene I'm most waiting for.
Title: Re: Alien: Covenant TV Spots
Post by: Predaker on May 04, 2017, 07:26:32 PM
I don't think I'm going to watch any more spots or new footage this close to release. I've seen enough as it is and we've already had one person show up in the early reaction thread whom was unable to fully respect the embargo.
Title: Re: Alien: Covenant TV Spots
Post by: Ingwar on May 04, 2017, 07:58:06 PM
Quote from: The Eighth Passenger on May 04, 2017, 04:03:42 PM
Nice! Here's a direct link to the new TV Spots.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3-gox10nxmg (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3-gox10nxmg)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tU_jori5mos (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tU_jori5mos)

It's epic!
Title: Re: Alien: Covenant TV Spots
Post by: Ragonk_Force on May 04, 2017, 08:19:46 PM
man the bombing scene looks like destruction on an epic scale
Title: Re: Alien: Covenant TV Spots
Post by: Adorianu on May 04, 2017, 08:23:23 PM
Quote from: Ragonk_Force on May 04, 2017, 08:19:46 PM
man the bombing scene looks like destruction on an epic scale

Looks epic and also looks very scary in a way,they crawl in agony so desperate to escape,now they feel their creation on their own flesh.
Title: Re: Alien: Covenant TV Spots
Post by: whiterabbit on May 04, 2017, 08:48:13 PM
Quote from: Adorianu on May 04, 2017, 08:23:23 PM
Quote from: Ragonk_Force on May 04, 2017, 08:19:46 PM
man the bombing scene looks like destruction on an epic scale

Looks epic and also looks very scary in a way,they crawl in agony so desperate to escape,now they feel their creation on their own flesh.
It's kind of reminiscent of the dead engineers piled up against the door in Prometheus. You know, the one's with the holes inside of their chests that appeared to have opened up from the inside. It's going top be one hell of a chestburster if that happens again.  ;)

Also that thing on the guys face looks more like an alien than a patch.
Title: Re: Alien: Covenant TV Spots
Post by: Bonus Situation on May 04, 2017, 08:48:29 PM
Yup I'm done, starting to get to Prometheus levels of exposure.

This is Bonus Situation, spoiler free of Alien Covenant...signing off.

...Until next Saturday :)
Title: Re: Alien: Covenant TV Spots
Post by: Anthony on May 04, 2017, 09:11:01 PM
Same, I'm gonna try and stop with the TV spots now.

Key word: Try

(Will still be active on the forum though).
Title: Re: Alien: Covenant TV Spots
Post by: Ultramorph on May 04, 2017, 09:24:25 PM
Bombing scene is going to be an epic set piece!
Title: Re: Alien: Covenant TV Spots
Post by: SpeedyMaxx on May 05, 2017, 08:15:43 AM
That is definitely
Spoiler
Daniels carrying Lope with, er, Walter towards Tennessee's landing rig in the Greatest Step spot. Wonder if Lope survives.
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Title: Re: Alien: Covenant TV Spots
Post by: Ingwar on May 05, 2017, 09:39:44 AM
Quote from: SpeedyMaxx on May 05, 2017, 08:15:43 AM
That is definitely
Spoiler
Daniels carrying Lope with, er, Walter towards Tennessee's landing rig in the Greatest Step spot. Wonder if Lope survives.
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He might or he might not. I have to wait till Thursday!

Spoiler
(https://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FLtcyBid.jpg&hash=165774f6cfa616105bd65deffe4376cfff111c15)
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Title: Re: Alien: Covenant TV Spots
Post by: Marcus9000 on May 05, 2017, 02:12:02 PM
Quote from: skhellter on Apr 03, 2017, 02:07:30 AM
(https://i.gyazo.com/5a77e5b5de783878f1e05550e3cbf7f1.png)


Yo, what's this still from a SyFy channel Alien ripoff
doing in the new Alien movie trailer?


Because THAT DESIGN is laughable, fam.

Hopefully that's not the finished FX. I have to agree that it looks sub par for a Hollywood blockbuster.


Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk
Title: Re: Alien: Covenant TV Spots
Post by: Walter on May 05, 2017, 02:57:13 PM


new footage
Title: Re: Alien: Covenant TV Spots
Post by: Corporal Hicks on May 05, 2017, 03:00:14 PM
Excellent. That's a better quality copy of one from earlier! http://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/index.php?topic=56815.msg2206338#msg2206338
Title: Re: Alien: Covenant TV Spots
Post by: Imbrie on May 05, 2017, 03:00:25 PM
Christ! So much footage out there now. We could edit everything together and have the complete movie!
Title: Re: Alien: Covenant TV Spots
Post by: Scraggly on May 06, 2017, 01:25:42 PM
Did anyone catch Fassbender on "The Graham Norton Show" BBC1 last night? They showed a quick clip of the movie, where Daniels/Walter and the captain (cant remember his name) flushign the Alien down the ships corridors. Should be able to watch it again on the iPlayer (those of us in the UK)
Title: Re: Alien: Covenant TV Spots
Post by: Ultramorph on May 06, 2017, 02:56:58 PM
Interesting remark about
Spoiler
the planet being hidden. I wonder what that means.
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Title: Re: Alien: Covenant TV Spots
Post by: Citadel on May 06, 2017, 03:19:13 PM
Quote from: Scraggly on May 06, 2017, 01:25:42 PM
Did anyone catch Fassbender on "The Graham Norton Show" BBC1 last night? They showed a quick clip of the movie, where Daniels/Walter and the captain (cant remember his name) flushign the Alien down the ships corridors. Should be able to watch it again on the iPlayer (those of us in the UK)
Completely forgot about it so I'll be watching on demand tonight. Apparently the footage is pretty standard stuff, so I've heard? I might decide to skip it.
Title: Re: Alien: Covenant TV Spots
Post by: cliffhanger on May 06, 2017, 08:02:03 PM
Quote from: Ultramorph on May 06, 2017, 02:56:58 PM
Interesting remark about
Spoiler
the planet being hidden. I wonder what that means.
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i think it simply means that it was not discovered at all, not noticed, despite lots of colonization missions being made, many trips through space, etcetera. i wouldn't look too much into it. then again, daniels could be onto something in regards to 'an agenda' / classified stuff.

I don't think so though.
Title: Re: Alien: Covenant TV Spots
Post by: TheBATMAN on May 06, 2017, 08:03:37 PM
Quote from: Citadel on May 06, 2017, 03:19:13 PM
Completely forgot about it so I'll be watching on demand tonight. Apparently the footage is pretty standard stuff, so I've heard? I might decide to skip it.

Depends on how much you like CG creatures.
Title: Re: Alien: Covenant TV Spots
Post by: Evanus on May 08, 2017, 04:05:34 PM
I think I found a new TV spot:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RpBiwNVpOxE&spfreload=1

Has some cool new footage in it.
Title: Re: Alien: Covenant TV Spots
Post by: echobbase79 on May 08, 2017, 04:24:32 PM
Quote from: Evanus on May 08, 2017, 04:05:34 PM
I think I found a new TV spot:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RpBiwNVpOxE&spfreload=1

Has some cool new footage in it.

Yeah, that's new! I've never seen some of those shots. Thanks.
Title: Re: Alien: Covenant TV Spots
Post by: Evanus on May 08, 2017, 04:36:36 PM
Quote from: echobbase79 on May 08, 2017, 04:24:32 PM
Quote from: Evanus on May 08, 2017, 04:05:34 PM
I think I found a new TV spot:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RpBiwNVpOxE&spfreload=1

Has some cool new footage in it.

Yeah, that's new! I've never seen some of those shots. Thanks.
No problem. :)  That shot of the bombing scene looks crazy.
Title: Re: Alien: Covenant TV Spots
Post by: echobbase79 on May 08, 2017, 04:41:49 PM
Quote from: Evanus on May 08, 2017, 04:36:36 PM
Quote from: echobbase79 on May 08, 2017, 04:24:32 PM
Quote from: Evanus on May 08, 2017, 04:05:34 PM
I think I found a new TV spot:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RpBiwNVpOxE&spfreload=1

Has some cool new footage in it.

Yeah, that's new! I've never seen some of those shots. Thanks.
No problem. :)  That shot of the bombing scene looks crazy.

Yeah, it does. It seems once the goo hits the atmosphere it creates a mini-tornado of some kind.

Spoiler
(https://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FecVDpgD.png&hash=63ded511904cdc1d8b891e79660cea7e8cd7bee4)
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Title: Re: Alien: Covenant TV Spots
Post by: Evanus on May 08, 2017, 06:35:33 PM
Yep, that's the same one I posted.  :)
Title: Re: Alien: Covenant TV Spots
Post by: Ragonk_Force on May 08, 2017, 06:38:14 PM
f**k I cannot wait to see the bombing scene
Title: Re: Alien: Covenant TV Spots
Post by: Citadel on May 08, 2017, 06:40:00 PM
I saw a spot on Instagram yesterday with a fantastic shot of the xeno overlooking the Engineer city (I think) with the shuttle taking off. I cannot for the life of me find it now.
Title: Re: Alien: Covenant TV Spots
Post by: Evanus on May 08, 2017, 06:44:18 PM
Quote from: Citadel on May 08, 2017, 06:40:00 PM
I saw a spot on Instagram yesterday with a fantastic shot of the xeno overlooking the Engineer city (I think) with the shuttle taking off. I cannot for the life of me find it now.
You mean this one?
https://twitter.com/Kellvin_Chavez/status/859587006455844865
Title: Re: Alien: Covenant TV Spots
Post by: Citadel on May 08, 2017, 07:02:20 PM
Quote from: Evanus on May 08, 2017, 06:44:18 PM
Quote from: Citadel on May 08, 2017, 06:40:00 PM
I saw a spot on Instagram yesterday with a fantastic shot of the xeno overlooking the Engineer city (I think) with the shuttle taking off. I cannot for the life of me find it now.
You mean this one?
https://twitter.com/Kellvin_Chavez/status/859587006455844865
Yes! But the shot was longer, the opening of the spot had the Covenant in orbit from an angle unseen in the trailers/spots.
Title: Re: Alien: Covenant TV Spots
Post by: whiterabbit on May 09, 2017, 07:39:28 AM
Title: Re: Alien: Covenant TV Spots
Post by: Corporal Hicks on May 09, 2017, 07:48:00 AM
Any idea where the original one came from? What language is that?
Title: Re: Alien: Covenant TV Spots
Post by: The Eighth Passenger on May 09, 2017, 05:29:53 PM
Don't know if this one has been posted yet, so many new telly spots these days...

https://youtu.be/z06BZq2WHgw (https://youtu.be/z06BZq2WHgw)
Title: Re: Alien: Covenant TV Spots
Post by: bobcunk on May 13, 2017, 05:25:21 AM
I saw one last night during shartank. Is that one up, it had a lot of alien footage.