Are there maps of the places that appear in the Alien / Predator movies?
A couple you may have seen on a blu-ray menu or RPG.
Link (https://alientimeline.wordpress.com/astro-cartography/)
Quote from: SM on Feb 04, 2024, 09:18:32 PMA couple you may have seen on a blu-ray menu or RPG.
Link (https://alientimeline.wordpress.com/astro-cartography/)
Really well done' and TY for the link :o
Quote from: SM on Feb 04, 2024, 09:18:32 PMA couple you may have seen on a blu-ray menu or RPG.
Link (https://alientimeline.wordpress.com/astro-cartography/)
Did you put that together? If so how long did that take? Absolutely incredible information on that site.
Quote from: SM on Feb 04, 2024, 09:18:32 PMA couple you may have seen on a blu-ray menu or RPG.
Link (https://alientimeline.wordpress.com/astro-cartography/)
Correct me if I'm wrong, but it looks like the Ilium Range on the Hadley Region Map wouldn't shield the derelict from the AP explosion at all.
You are quite observant.
Quote from: solace97 on Feb 05, 2024, 04:59:48 AMQuote from: SM on Feb 04, 2024, 09:18:32 PMA couple you may have seen on a blu-ray menu or RPG.
Link (https://alientimeline.wordpress.com/astro-cartography/)
Did you put that together? If so how long did that take? Absolutely incredible information on that site.
Thanks. They've been put together over the course decades. Some take longer than others.
Quote from: SM on Feb 05, 2024, 08:09:59 AMYou are quite observant.
Observant, but confused. :-\
I'm not sure there is cause for such.
I'm easily confused.
I figured you were built different.
Physiodivergent?
Quote from: Local Trouble on Feb 05, 2024, 06:49:18 AMQuote from: SM on Feb 04, 2024, 09:18:32 PMA couple you may have seen on a blu-ray menu or RPG.
Link (https://alientimeline.wordpress.com/astro-cartography/)
Correct me if I'm wrong, but it looks like the Ilium Range on the Hadley Region Map wouldn't shield the derelict from the AP explosion at all.
I'd be interested in seeing the "math" behind SM's map.
Quote from: Xenomrph on Feb 06, 2024, 10:55:04 AMQuote from: Local Trouble on Feb 05, 2024, 06:49:18 AMQuote from: SM on Feb 04, 2024, 09:18:32 PMA couple you may have seen on a blu-ray menu or RPG.
Link (https://alientimeline.wordpress.com/astro-cartography/)
Correct me if I'm wrong, but it looks like the Ilium Range on the Hadley Region Map wouldn't shield the derelict from the AP explosion at all.
I'd be interested in seeing the "math" behind SM's map.
I think they call it maths there.
Quote from: Local Trouble on Feb 06, 2024, 02:32:04 PMQuote from: Xenomrph on Feb 06, 2024, 10:55:04 AMQuote from: Local Trouble on Feb 05, 2024, 06:49:18 AMQuote from: SM on Feb 04, 2024, 09:18:32 PMA couple you may have seen on a blu-ray menu or RPG.
Link (https://alientimeline.wordpress.com/astro-cartography/)
Correct me if I'm wrong, but it looks like the Ilium Range on the Hadley Region Map wouldn't shield the derelict from the AP explosion at all.
I'd be interested in seeing the "math" behind SM's map.
I think they call it maths there.
Either way I'd love to see it haha.
Quote from: Local Trouble on Feb 06, 2024, 06:20:15 AMPhysiodivergent?
We're of the same kind!!!!
Well kinda...not really🙈⚛🌌👀👉👈
Alien: The Blueprints book is great as well
Indeed.
Although I found some of the Fiorina stuff a bit lacking. I hoped Graham might just go all out mapping the complex, but it generally stuck to set construction blueprints. However it would've been a huge time investment in a less popular film.
I've tinkered with mapping Fiorina in the past, but it's a huge task. It's not like the Nostromo or the colony in Aliens where the set was interlinked rooms.
Except that third cryotube.
We don't speak about that.
Quote from: SiL on Feb 06, 2024, 11:01:09 PMExcept that third cryotube.
I write it off as "the Narcissus' stock model has 3 cryotubes, the Narcissus specifically didn't have 3 because of any number of reasons".
I wrote it off as "The guy who made the book forgot the entire plot of the last act of the movie and messed up."
Graham's a mate and incredibly knowledgeable and very kindly put me in the acknowledgements when he didn't have to, and that still baffles me.
Quote from: SM on Feb 07, 2024, 12:03:21 AMGraham's a mate and incredibly knowledgeable and very kindly put me in the acknowledgements when he didn't have to, and that still baffles me.
Sorry I meant to say Iwrote it off as "The incredibly nice and very talented gentleman who made the book made an error in judgment for which we shall not judge him too harshly."
Quote from: SiL on Feb 06, 2024, 11:45:18 PMI wrote it off as "The guy who made the book forgot the entire plot of the last act of the movie and messed up."
I meant in-universe.
I was also hoping for more Fury 161 and Auriga stuff from the book, but it's understandably less sought after.
(I think there is a great landscape shot from the movie just before the EEV crashes).
The Alien and Aliens stuff is great, although the AP station could need some more coverage (even the movie shows several maps from it).
They could've used this free-for-nothing.
Like Fox did on the blu-rays.
Though yes, limited appeal.
(https://alientimeline.files.wordpress.com/2015/05/aurigablueprint-7.jpg)
That feels like it puts everything way too close together for some reason. Like the entire movie takes place in the same 100-yard span of the biggest ship in the franchise where we see the characters run a lot.
Yeah, that corridor junction "covers" the whole ship.
One thing I always wondered, is the underwater kitchen seen before the flooding?
Is it where Ripley 8 eats with the fork?
Quote from: Wweyland on Feb 08, 2024, 01:47:53 PMYeah, that corridor junction "covers" the whole ship.
One thing I always wondered, is the underwater kitchen seen before the flooding?
Is it where Ripley 8 eats with the fork?
It is.
Quote from: Wweyland on Feb 08, 2024, 01:47:53 PMYeah, that corridor junction "covers" the whole ship.
One thing I always wondered, is the underwater kitchen seen before the flooding?
Is it where Ripley 8 eats with the fork?
f**k
Quote from: TheBATMAN on Feb 08, 2024, 06:06:05 PMQuote from: Wweyland on Feb 08, 2024, 01:47:53 PMYeah, that corridor junction "covers" the whole ship.
One thing I always wondered, is the underwater kitchen seen before the flooding?
Is it where Ripley 8 eats with the fork?
It is.
I just checked the movie again. The "fork" scene seems to be in the mess hall, with the weights and the basketball court. It's where they start off from for their long journey to The Betty. We probably don't see the kitchen before.
The corridor junction is part of medlab. It doesn't remotely 'cover the whole ship'.
The kitchen is not seen before its flooded.
I think they mean that one junction covers most of the major locations we seem to see in the film.
Quote from: SiL on Feb 08, 2024, 08:58:41 PMI think they mean that one junction covers most of the major locations we seem to see in the film.
It's this. It seems weird given how much walking and running they do, for it to all be in one not particularly long corridor.
Yes, I meant that the film could and possibly was filmed mostly in just one corridor junction.
Quote from: SiL on Feb 08, 2024, 08:58:41 PMI think they mean that one junction covers most of the major locations we seem to see in the film.
If that's the case then yes. Clearly.
So what, Elgyn dying until the kitchen is just them walking around this bend more or less?
Leaving the mess hall up to when they find Purvis. The egg chamber and observation room aren't on the map. About 15 minutes worth. Plus stuff earlier before the Betty turns up and again a small portion after they leave the chapel. Think they used different lenses to make it appear longer in some scenes.
I get re-using the set as different locations, I just didn't realise such a chunk of the film is one in-story corridor.
It's meant to be different locations; not one in-story corridor. Each scene - Elgyn's death, meeting Vriess at the lift, the clone room are all different parts of the script. The only part of that 15 minutes on the map I posted is the clone storage room, which is in medlab and restricted.
Everything other than clone storage is used in the first 10 minutes.
Quote from: SM on Feb 08, 2024, 11:51:31 PMIt's meant to be different locations; not one in-story corridor.
Does the map you drew represent one in-story corridor, or the set? I think that's where I'm most getting confused.
You're testing my memory a bit here. I think I did that thing like 20 years ago.
It's one in-story corridor based on a set construction blueprint and observation - to a point. In-story that's where clone storage, the cloning lab and operating theatre are. I added the infirmary where Ripley strangles Wren as I think it's redress of the operating theatre. I also added the Alien cage room and observation lab based on another separate blueprint. Could probably added another room opposite the cloning lab where Perez, Wren and Gediman observe Ripley being tested with the flash cards.
It'd be probably worth a revision if there was an audience and Fox hadn't committed it to whatever canon blu-ray menus occupy.
Knowing where the docking bay is located from outside the ship, do we have a rough idea of which way they are heading inside the ship? Also, we know which way the hull is located in one (kind of stupid) scene.
Docking bay is midships where the 'facehugger claws' are.
The 'in front of the hull scene' is just dumb. It's nowhere near any hull.
Quote from: SM on Feb 09, 2024, 08:03:39 PMDocking bay is midships where the 'facehugger claws' are.
The 'in front of the hull scene' is just dumb. It's nowhere near any hull.
How do you know? And how would he know? The ship looks super thick though.
How do I know? Watching the film. There's a corridor and rooms and another corridor behind the Alien. There's a door and another corridor or room behind the characters. Ripley shoots it's head off and there's no acid burning through the lower hull.