Welp, Blakout's a mobile game. So much for that.
https://www.google.com/amp/s/variety.com/2019/gaming/news/alien-blackout-is-a-survival-horror-mobile-game-starring-amanda-ripley-1203101143/amp/ (https://www.google.com/amp/s/variety.com/2019/gaming/news/alien-blackout-is-a-survival-horror-mobile-game-starring-amanda-ripley-1203101143/amp/)
I guess there's a bit of comfort in knowing that this isn't Cold Iron's game at least, so there's still a game being worked on out there at least.
Quote from: Nightmare Asylum on Jan 07, 2019, 02:09:41 PM
Welp, Blakout's a mobile game. So much for that.
https://www.google.com/amp/s/variety.com/2019/gaming/news/alien-blackout-is-a-survival-horror-mobile-game-starring-amanda-ripley-1203101143/amp/ (https://www.google.com/amp/s/variety.com/2019/gaming/news/alien-blackout-is-a-survival-horror-mobile-game-starring-amanda-ripley-1203101143/amp/)
I guess there's a bit of comfort in knowing that this isn't Cold Iron's game at least, so there's still a game being worked on out there at least.
If it's free on Google Play, I'm excited, because that's all I have access to right now.
Quote from: Nightmare Asylum on Jan 07, 2019, 02:09:41 PM
Welp, Blakout's a mobile game. So much for that.
https://www.google.com/amp/s/variety.com/2019/gaming/news/alien-blackout-is-a-survival-horror-mobile-game-starring-amanda-ripley-1203101143/amp/ (https://www.google.com/amp/s/variety.com/2019/gaming/news/alien-blackout-is-a-survival-horror-mobile-game-starring-amanda-ripley-1203101143/amp/)
I guess there's a bit of comfort in knowing that this isn't Cold Iron's game at least, so there's still a game being worked on out there at least.
Ah geez...
At least we still have the Cold Iron one.
Oh...
My reaction was " OOOH oh? errr? *hopeful shoulder shrug* ehhhh?"
Well, yikes ain't that a disappointment. I like the idea, but it seems to be a Five nights at Freddies clone, just repackaged as an alien game. Dammit, I can guarantee you have to pay for the game too. They took down AVP Evolution and Predators and release this? Ew.
Well that's a bit of a disappointment.
I'm willing to give it a shot, but... the pitch doesn't sound promising...
Bummer.
Well, hopefully that shooter will turn out good.
Mobile games are dead, at least to gamers. Can't believe they are wasting time energy with this.
Zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz.....I'll stick with Zork on my mobile flip.
I suggested this premise years ago as a DLC for Alien: Isolation - just with multiplayer instead of the team being AI driven. Interested to see how it plays, certainly seems to be re-using a lot of assets from Isolation.
EDIT: This doesn't mean I'm ok with the sequel to Isolation being a mobile game, however. It's a neat idea but why does it need to be played as Amanda Ripley? There seems to be very little story so I don't get why you would waste a character from a game that fans are asking for a sequel of, especially knowing what backlash any marketing campaign would get for that. I'll play it out of love for the franchise, but am still looking towards the Cold Iron game as the next "true" entry into the Alien game series.
Damn it, not playing on mobile. When it comes to expenditure/profit possibly a good decision. Guess i got to lower my expectations for future game announcements, mobile platform seems to be an increasing threat :D
Why though?
Might be fun, lets see how this turns out. Still, I'm sad that it's not anything more grand.
Makes total sense! Because when you want a captivating and immersive experience, why not go with a tiny screen with tiny speakers?
Is it too late to get that option with Kane's actual son that someone mentioned in the previous thread? I was genuinely excited for a follow-up to Alien Isolation...never would have thought it would be a mobile game. Very disappointing.
Well damn. So unless you sell your ovaries or nuts for a good "Gaming" phone... You're gonna be either A: Stuck with a phone emulator on the PC which will be clunky as hell to play, or B: One of many who will be stuck waiting for a proper frackin Alien/Aliens game >.<.
Why do good things have to be butchered.?...
I don't know if I can imagine a more terrifying experience than creeping down a dark corridor with alarm klaxons blaring and the sound of nearby otherworldly movement, and then get a phone notification about an old acquaintance's birthday on Facebook or an Amazon Prime sale! Mindbreaking horror I tell you!
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Ok so a few more details from the app store pages - it's releasing January 24th and costs $4.99. Internal codename for the project is "Mendel". Social media accounts were created back in September and all the promo art seems to have been created in November.
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Ahahaha. f**king brilliant.
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Damn I was just coming to make that joke! :laugh: I'm sure this will be microtrantastic.
pfft lol, well at least its not the Cold Iron game, we still have that to look forward to thankfully.
Already at the AppStore for preorder. Some more footage there. Meh.
Yikes.... I guess I'm not the only one that thinks that mobile games are kind of a waste?
What idiot of a "Five Nights at Freddy's" fan greenlit this game?
Quote from: Badwolf-00 on Jan 07, 2019, 04:13:16 PM
Yikes.... I guess I'm not the only one that thinks that mobile games are kind of a waste?
No, I pretty much anticipated this kind of reaction when I first learnt of this. And I'd been dreading it.
I'm going to wait to actually play the game myself before I jump to any conclusions. I really enjoyed AvP Evolution so I don't think anything about the platform means it automatically going to be bad. I'll actually give it a go.
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Love it.
Can't wait until Jim Sterling does a video.
Quote from: Corporal Hicks on Jan 07, 2019, 04:26:45 PM
Quote from: Badwolf-00 on Jan 07, 2019, 04:13:16 PM
Yikes.... I guess I'm not the only one that thinks that mobile games are kind of a waste?
No, I pretty much anticipated this kind of reaction as soon when I first learnt of this. And I'd been dreading it.
I'm going to wait to actually play the game myself but I jump to any conclusions. I really enjoyed AvP Evolution so I don't think anything about the platform means it automatically going to be bad. I'll actually give it a go.
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Go ahead and bash me for liking mobile games. I've had Pokémon Duel for a year-and-a-half and I'm loving the crap out of it.
Yuck. Mobile games are weak sauce.
I might get it if it's priced reasonably, but honestly this will be a huge letdown to the fans.
I think I depends on what you are trying to pull off with the mobile game.
If it's survival horror, you start at a disadvantage compared to other platforms IMO.
I love how this trailer has already 1,800 downvotes on YT :D
Good stuff... Expected as much.
And why would you play a horror survival game on a phone.... What a terrible idea... Even if it is just a five nights clone.
Bleh! *spits
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We sure do!
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Anyway, is this what all that teasing was about in the "something is brewing" thread?
I'm so completely underwhelmed. It could turn out to be good like AVP, but very few mobile titles turn out good IMO. I'll reserve final judgement until release, but history says I had better keep my hopes under control.
This was a bad PR move, if the "Watch" thing is really good they should've revealed that first.
Them murmured about Alien Blackout afterwards in the background.
As is stands to the general public, they'll see it like this;
ACM- Disgusting...
Alien Isolation- Whoo!
Alien Covenant- ...
The Predator- Garbage.
Alien Blackout- "Seriously? This is the sequel to Isolation?"
(Diablo Immortal?)
Quote from: Xhan on Jan 07, 2019, 03:59:21 PM
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Literally the first thought I had, this is perfect.
Really though, this frustration could've been easily avoided by showing Cold Iron's game first. A bit of market research and the swift and fierce backlash to Diablo Immortal should've been the first thing they looked at. Everybody wants the sequel to Isolation, we knew that wasn't happening, but you deliver what was taken as a tease of that, and then announce a mobile 'sequel,' people will be pissed.
As a person who's had nothing whatsoever to do with mobile games, I have to say that this game looks far more impressive, visually, than I imagined mobile games would be capable of. But that's more a testament to my ignorance than to the game itself. :P
Just pre-ordered on the iPhone App Store. It says "Expected January 24, 2019".
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Its just an out of season april fools joke im sure guys, calm down
To play Devil's Advocate...
The game actually costs $5, which is a good sign, typically it's the free ones that end up with the $99.99 coin pack advertisements in your face.
AVP Evolution remains one of my favorite mobile games, so it's been done right before. Mobile platforms are actually pretty powerful these days, gaming has its place there as long as companies can produce something with substance rather than a scam disguised as a game.
I'm intrigued and I'll go in with an open mind. But yeah, this backlash was easily spotted from a mile away, gaming press and YouTubers are going to pounce on it and spread negative sentiment.
I can't even express my disappointment in words, not buying this, I won't encourage it.
Wow what a pile of shite this turned out to be?
A mobile game sequel to Isolation?
I am beyond disappointed with this
I have never seen such a ratio of upvotes/downvotes on Youtube.
This is another disappointment in the franchise.
I am not even sure my phone will support the game.
So I nailed it right? This is like a TellTale Game? That covers the #Watch and the #Play.
@Hicks - When you said searched for a "barely contained excitement" GIF for this the other day, did you mean to type "barely excited"? ;D
It's not the game we were wanting or expecting BUT it's still new Alien content, so it's definitely something to still look forward too! Still hyped for what Cold Iron are working on....and definitely intrigued by what "watch" is going to turn out to be!!
Quote from: Voodoo Magic on Jan 07, 2019, 06:16:37 PM
@Hicks - When you said searched for a "barely contained excitement" GIF for this the other day, did you mean to type "barely excited"? ;D
I told ya! :laugh:
Released January 24. Maybe Cold Iron game we will see in February or March?
Quote from: Voodoo Magic on Jan 07, 2019, 06:16:37 PM
So I nailed it right? This is like a TellTale Game? That covers the #Watch and the #Play.
@Hicks - When you said searched for a "barely contained excitement" GIF for this the other day, did you mean to type "barely excited"? ;D
Read.Play.Watch
Quote from: Wweyland on Jan 07, 2019, 06:13:02 PM
I have never seen such a ratio of upvotes/downvotes on Youtube.
This is another disappointment in the franchise.
I am not even sure my phone will support the game.
Better downvote it myself. Still disgusted with this news
I was bummed at first, But now I can appreciate we ARE getting SOMETHING! We still have the other game. I will buy this.
Although a bit silly seeing Amanda back in the exact same scenario again.
I'll definitely play it, I just hope it's not a micro transaction nightmare. I really still need to try the AVP game, too.
Quote from: bobby brown on Jan 07, 2019, 06:38:44 PM
Although a bit silly seeing Amanda back in the exact same scenario again.
Yeah it literally seems like a rip of Alien: Isolation's survival mode, but you're controlling four AI-driven characters instead of yourself. Even seems to heavily re-use assets from Isolation - models/sounds/animations, just with heavily reduced polygon counts on models.
This game would've had less backlash and seemed more original if the main character wasn't Amanda Ripley. Unless there are story aspects that haven't been shown, it seems like there's no need for her to be in it.
Quote from: Ultramorph on Jan 07, 2019, 06:43:29 PM
I'll definitely play it, I just hope it's not a micro transaction nightmare. I really still need to try the AVP game, too.
Considering it costs $4.99, I'd like to hope it doesn't have micro transactions. Don't really see how they'd fit into what they have shown off.
Quote from: Corporal Hicks on Jan 07, 2019, 06:33:43 PM
Quote from: Voodoo Magic on Jan 07, 2019, 06:16:37 PM
So I nailed it right? This is like a TellTale Game? That covers the #Watch and the #Play.
@Hicks - When you said searched for a "barely contained excitement" GIF for this the other day, did you mean to type "barely excited"? ;D
Read.Play.Watch
Wait. So the big part hasn't dropped yet? The #Watch is something else? Maybe it's an animated web series? Or an animated series on Netflix like "Castlevania"?
Argh! I'm reading into Hick's post like it's the mural! :P
Yeah...no thanks.
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Quote from: Corporal Hicks on Jan 07, 2019, 06:33:43 PM
Quote from: Voodoo Magic on Jan 07, 2019, 06:16:37 PM
So I nailed it right? This is like a TellTale Game? That covers the #Watch and the #Play.
@Hicks - When you said searched for a "barely contained excitement" GIF for this the other day, did you mean to type "barely excited"? ;D
Read.Play.Watch
Wait. So the big part hasn't dropped yet? The #Watch is something else? Maybe it's an animated web series? Or an animated series on Netflix like "Castlevania"?
Argh! I'm reading into Hick's post like it's the mural! :P
If it's Alien/Predator/AVP content I found expecting nothing works best. This way you will never be really disappointed :P
Quote from: The Kurgan on Jan 07, 2019, 07:07:49 PM
Quote from: Voodoo Magic on Jan 07, 2019, 07:04:09 PM
Quote from: Corporal Hicks on Jan 07, 2019, 06:33:43 PM
Quote from: Voodoo Magic on Jan 07, 2019, 06:16:37 PM
So I nailed it right? This is like a TellTale Game? That covers the #Watch and the #Play.
@Hicks - When you said searched for a "barely contained excitement" GIF for this the other day, did you mean to type "barely excited"? ;D
Read.Play.Watch
Wait. So the big part hasn't dropped yet? The #Watch is something else? Maybe it's an animated web series? Or an animated series on Netflix like "Castlevania"?
Argh! I'm reading into Hick's post like it's the mural! :P
If it's Alien/Predator/AVP content I found expecting nothing works best. This way you will never be really disappointed :P
Hah! Sound advice.
Quote from: Voodoo Magic on Jan 07, 2019, 07:04:09 PM
Quote from: Corporal Hicks on Jan 07, 2019, 06:33:43 PM
Quote from: Voodoo Magic on Jan 07, 2019, 06:16:37 PM
So I nailed it right? This is like a TellTale Game? That covers the #Watch and the #Play.
@Hicks - When you said searched for a "barely contained excitement" GIF for this the other day, did you mean to type "barely excited"? ;D
Read.Play.Watch
Wait. So the big part hasn't dropped yet? The #Watch is something else? Maybe it's an animated web series? Or an animated series on Netflix like "Castlevania"?
Argh! I'm reading into Hick's post like it's the mural! :P
Yeah if you re-watch the Alien: Blackout trailer, at the end it highlights "PLAY", so "WATCH" is definitely for another project. Wasn't there talk of an online series back along? Maybe that has been resurrected secretly.
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Quote from: Corporal Hicks on Jan 07, 2019, 06:33:43 PM
Quote from: Voodoo Magic on Jan 07, 2019, 06:16:37 PM
So I nailed it right? This is like a TellTale Game? That covers the #Watch and the #Play.
@Hicks - When you said searched for a "barely contained excitement" GIF for this the other day, did you mean to type "barely excited"? ;D
Read.Play.Watch
Wait. So the big part hasn't dropped yet? The #Watch is something else? Maybe it's an animated web series? Or an animated series on Netflix like "Castlevania"?
Argh! I'm reading into Hick's post like it's the mural! :P
Yeah if you re-watch the Alien: Blackout trailer, at the end it highlights "PLAY", so "WATCH" is definitely for another project. Wasn't there talk of an online series back along? Maybe that has been resurrected secretly.
Ah. Good point.
POINTLESS AS f**k. Alien: Isolation deserves better than this, this is unacceptabaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaL!!!!!!!!
I love alien and I love mobile. People are already picking holes at a game they haven't even seen yet. Pretty sure isolation took sound effects directly from the sound effects in the original. So what if it's borrowing? This is just history repeating itself. A new thing comes out, about something they claim to love and rather than being happy about it. They chuck mud at it. I for one would love a alien isolation type game I can play on the go. I just hope it's premium and not free to play. Be grateful that we are being spoilt with classic alien games this year. It might not happen again for awhile.
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This 4 evs.
Trailer was pretty cool, ill play it.
Hope we hear about the other game soon.mobile is OK but was hoping to see a trailer for this other game just hope we not waiting to long
To me noble games arnt real games, they are just entertaining adds that you play on the toilet.
The snobbery is palpable.
(The above post was bobcunk's 1337the post.)
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Quote
This 4 evs.
So I can play it on my bedazzled flip phone?
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Damage control! Also, confirms that "WATCH" is still another project yet to be announced.
https://twitter.com/AlienAnthology/status/1082355991604224000
#Read the comic.
#Play the game.
#Watch the fans get pissed.
;D
# Hear the whining.
Quote from: SM on Jan 07, 2019, 08:21:26 PM
# Hear the whining.
But it's not #ReadPlayWatch
Hear so.....
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So, we are either getting an Amanda Ripley TV series or they are digging themselves into an even deeper hole.
Even if the game isn't terrible (huge if), it'll be forgotten, unsupported, and eventually pulled from the mobile stores. Hard to want to spend money on that.
Mobile games suck.
Quote from: SM on Jan 07, 2019, 08:21:26 PM
# Hear the whining.
It's been a little bit more than six hours, and it's gotten ridiculous. Gonna agree with SM.
I almost feel like I should no longer be excited. Apparently, there's no point. And from what I've received on Twitter, it's not OK to have a different opinion on this.
Hoping we get a Netflix mini series or something animated for Watch.
For all of the bitching, I wonder how many pre-orders they actually have.
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Quote from: SM on Jan 07, 2019, 08:21:26 PM
# Hear the whining.
It's been a little bit more than six hours, and it's gotten ridiculous. Gonna agree with SM.
I almost feel like I should no longer be excited. Apparently, there's no point. And from what I've received on Twitter, it's not OK to have a different opinion on this.
Don't you dare suggest "toxic fandom" is a thing though...
We like griping though.
Is this what all the ballyhoo was about?
Yeah, Whoopie f*cking do.*
*though it sounds like there might be more stuff coming...
Hey, I'm going to play it. Yeah, I said it. I'll take you all on!
But this like/dislike ratio seems a little excessive.. and dare I say embarrassing.
Shows what happens when people get sucked in by baseless click bait articles and Youtube videos.
I want a video to EXPLAIN all this to me.
Great. Just super. Really excited. Thanks again Fox.
I. Hate. Mobile games.
Yes how dare they... releasing a mobile game, can you believe it? Lock em up like monsters they are! :laugh:
Should have called it Alien Entitlement.
Sweet, a game I'll actually get the chance to play because my life is an endless slog of freelance drudgery and I don't have lots of spare hours to play console games at the moment!
And in time for my birthday!
Yeah it reuses a lot of Isolation's assets. That's good, that means it was cheap and financial success is a bit more plausible. It doesn't deserve this much hate at all. I'm not too happy about this being all we get to Play but I'm happy Isolation is getting another game in any shape or form. If this is successful, that's good for the franchise.
This is a mobile game, I don't take those seriously, so if this is fun in any sense, I'll be pleased.
And there better be no annoying microtransactions.
I suppose with ''watch'' they mean the rumored TV show.. any news on that?
Really? All that hype for an unwanted mobile game? I know the asian market loves their mobile games (or so ive heard) but mobile games are so forgettable.
At least AvP2 has a living community still..
I would rather have a Alien Battleroyale than this crap, I really hate this, I'm extremely dissapointed in this series
Quote from: Still Collating... on Jan 07, 2019, 09:14:11 PM
Yeah it reuses a lot of Isolation's assets. That's good, that means it was cheap and financial success is a bit more plausible.
As long as there aren't any micro transactions I'll be more than happy to support it as it does seem like a way of getting more money into the franchise with relatively low overheads, which totally makes sense.
Can't help but feel the announcement could've been done a
little better.
Can someone please tell me this isn't the game they said they would make last year and that this is a completely different thing
Quote from: SiL on Jan 07, 2019, 09:13:07 PM
I don't have lots of spare hours to play console games
You gotta make time for hobbies; they don't make time for you.
Am i the only one who think that it somehow resembles FNAF ("Before the power goes out")?
The more I think about it, I've always wanted a survival horror game that I can play while sitting on the toilet.
Guys, it's perfectly ok to be disappointed sometimes. The marketing campaign was pretty brilliant and had fans excited. I agree that you can't please everyone all the time, but I don't think anyone should be surprised that a mobile game would be a less-than-stellar reveal.
Quote from: Cellien on Jan 07, 2019, 09:30:48 PM
Quote from: SiL on Jan 07, 2019, 09:13:07 PM
I don't have lots of spare hours to play console games
You gotta make time for hobbies; they don't make time for you.
Yeah 'cos mobile games aren't TRUE games and I always take my Xbox on my daily commute.
Quote from: Mister Skeezler on Jan 07, 2019, 09:36:08 PM
The more I think about it, I've always wanted a survival horror game that I can play while sitting on the toilet.
Guys, it's perfectly ok to be disappointed sometimes. The marketing campaign was pretty brilliant and had fans excited. I agree that you can't please everyone all the time, but I don't think anyone should be surprised that a mobile game would be a less-than-stellar reveal.
This needs to be a review caption on the download page! ;)
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I've always wanted a survival horror game that I can play while sitting on the toilet."
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Mister Skeezler
Quote from: Cellien on Jan 07, 2019, 09:30:48 PM
You gotta make time for hobbies; they don't make time for you.
I've got other hobbies I make time for. Video games are low on the list.
Quote from: Mister Skeezler on Jan 07, 2019, 09:36:08 PM
The more I think about it, I've always wanted a survival horror game that I can play while sitting on the toilet.
It'll scare the shit out of you!
A survival horror you can play lying in bed at night with the lights out before going to sleep ;D
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Quote from: Mister Skeezler on Jan 07, 2019, 09:36:08 PM
The more I think about it, I've always wanted a survival horror game that I can play while sitting on the toilet.
It'll scare the shit out of you!
:D
Quote from: SiL on Jan 07, 2019, 09:46:57 PM
A survival horror you can play lying in bed at night with the lights out before going to sleep ;D
You're risking brown bed sheets.
Quote from: Local Trouble on Jan 07, 2019, 09:51:19 PM
You're risking brown bed sheets.
I'll put the black ones on first.
So here's something nobody seems to be talking about in amongst the Alien: Blackout news... FoxNext announced that Cold Iron Studios' game is a MMO. First bit of info we've had about the game since January last year.
https://www.dualshockers.com/alien-mmo-shooter-pc-consoles-foxnext/
Quote from: Voodoo Magic on Jan 07, 2019, 09:50:24 PM
Quote from: Local Trouble on Jan 07, 2019, 09:45:54 PM
Quote from: Mister Skeezler on Jan 07, 2019, 09:36:08 PM
The more I think about it, I've always wanted a survival horror game that I can play while sitting on the toilet.
It'll scare the shit out of you!
:D
Or better. You're playing and you get a notification from AvPGalaxy that Huggs replied to a thread you're following and he says something hilarious so you're laughing while an Alien is tail-stabbing your friend.
People will think you're insane.
Quote from: SiL on Jan 07, 2019, 09:44:06 PM
Quote from: Cellien on Jan 07, 2019, 09:30:48 PM
You gotta make time for hobbies; they don't make time for you.
I've got other hobbies I make time for. Video games are low on the list.
That's what I was indirectly saying. I just hear it a lot when it's never actually they don't have time, it's just that they rather do something else instead. I sympathize though. I own a company with two projects going on simultaneously, two clients, and employees to manage. I also like to take my boat out, go camping, home improvements etc... but I'll be damned if I didn't set aside 60 hours to complete Red Dead Redemption 2. :D
I did enjoy AVP Evolution but as a sequel to Isolation this is disappointing.
Randy help us.
So SM was right. *<slowly backs out of the thread and back into the bushes>* words doesn't do it justice.
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Oh and it just dawned on me why I didn't notice this thread... got the entire game forum collapsed.
Quote from: whiterabbit on Jan 07, 2019, 10:33:32 PM
So SM was right. *<slowly backs out of the thread and back into the bushes>*
For SM, me thinks this announcement couldn't come at a better time.
My god, the Twitter posts about this game. So much whining.
I really don't understand why this is worth having such tantrums over.
Quote from: Voodoo Magic on Jan 07, 2019, 10:37:22 PM
Quote from: whiterabbit on Jan 07, 2019, 10:33:32 PM
So SM was right. *<slowly backs out of the thread and back into the bushes>*
For SM, me thinks this announcement couldn't come at a better time.
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disappointed but will still check it out
worth remembering we still have that console game by foxnext to come
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Quote from: Voodoo Magic on Jan 07, 2019, 10:37:22 PM
Quote from: whiterabbit on Jan 07, 2019, 10:33:32 PM
So SM was right. *<slowly backs out of the thread and back into the bushes>*
For SM, me thinks this announcement couldn't come at a better time.
https://media.makeameme.org/created/what-do-you-5c0168.jpg
Look closely and it will reveal itself...
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NFI
If anything, it's already making great memes ha! ;D
Uh-huh. A mobile game, what did I tell you.
Quote from: Mister Skeezler on Jan 07, 2019, 09:36:08 PM
The more I think about it, I've always wanted a survival horror game that I can play while sitting on the toilet.
It's called having diarrhea.
Half a roll of TP just out of reach. Plunger, hairspray, shoe. Construct items to reach other items before time runs out. Ration your supplies, make excuses to keep others out. Hydrate often to prevent loss of consciousness. Switch to harder difficulties. Power outage, lever breakage, sewer gators. 8 different environments, each with customizable weather patterns and time of day. Church Social, Outback Steakhouse, Grandma's Place. Challenge your friends in hardcore Stall matches.
GAME OF GROANS
"Sh*t just got real"
Quote from: Huggs on Jan 07, 2019, 11:47:26 PM
Quote from: Mister Skeezler on Jan 07, 2019, 09:36:08 PM
The more I think about it, I've always wanted a survival horror game that I can play while sitting on the toilet.
It's called having diarrhea.
Half a roll of TP just out of reach. Plunger, hairspray, shoe. Construct items to reach other items before time runs out. Ration your supplies, make excuses to keep others out. Hydrate often to prevent loss of consciousness. Switch to harder difficulties. Power outage, lever breakage, sewer gators. 8 different environments, each with customizable weather patterns and time of day. Church Social, Outback Steakhouse, Grandma's Place. Challenge your friends in hardcore Stall matches.
GAME OF GROANS
"Sh*t just got real"
Thanks for making me laugh, Huggs. Just, thanks.
This thread is actually probably more entertaining than the mobile game will turn out to be.
Quote from: Huggs on Jan 07, 2019, 11:47:26 PM
Uh-huh. A mobile game, what did I tell you.
Quote from: Mister Skeezler on Jan 07, 2019, 09:36:08 PM
The more I think about it, I've always wanted a survival horror game that I can play while sitting on the toilet.
It's called having diarrhea.
Half a roll of TP just out of reach. Plunger, hairspray, shoe. Construct items to reach other items before time runs out. Ration your supplies, make excuses to keep others out. Hydrate often to prevent loss of consciousness. Switch to harder difficulties. Power outage, lever breakage, sewer gators. 8 different environments, each with customizable weather patterns and time of day. Church Social, Outback Steakhouse, Grandma's Place. Challenge your friends in hardcore Stall matches.
GAME OF GROANS
"Sh*t just got real"
Jesus Christ I'm dying. LOL! That's great Huggs.
I don't usually post a link to my videos unless it's to friends, but I pretty much sum my feelings here.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z-Joed10QeQ
Quote from: Huggs on Jan 07, 2019, 11:47:26 PM
It's called having diarrhea.
Half a roll of TP just out of reach. Plunger, hairspray, shoe. Construct items to reach other items before time runs out. Ration your supplies, make excuses to keep others out. Hydrate often to prevent loss of consciousness. Switch to harder difficulties. Power outage, lever breakage, sewer gators. 8 different environments, each with customizable weather patterns and time of day. Church Social, Outback Steakhouse, Grandma's Place. Challenge your friends in hardcore Stall matches.
GAME OF GROANS
"Sh*t just got real"
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Does that mean you're excited?
Is this real life?
Yes. Disney owns Alien now...
From the makers of MARVEL PUZZLE QUEST and ADVENTURE GNOME.
Can't wait...
Quote from: Local Trouble on Jan 08, 2019, 12:50:28 AM
Does that mean you're excited?
Tickled sh*tless, no doubt.
Its fnaf aliens edition.
Though hearing that cold irons is an mmo style shooter will be.. interesting.
Though if i cant play as an alien with decent customisation ill be pretty dissapointed
Quote from: Hudson on Jan 08, 2019, 12:53:02 AM
Is this real life?
Yes. Disney owns Alien now...
From the makers of MARVEL PUZZLE QUEST and ADVENTURE GNOME.
Can't wait...
Yep they greenlit and developed the game in a week. Impressive eh?
Ah shit. Crap. Dammit.
Game Over
Quote from: SM on Jan 07, 2019, 08:21:26 PM
# Hear the whining.
lol
After the fiasco of Diablo Immortal, PR should've expected this reaction.
Plus the animosity towards mobile exists in general-
Because it implies that because resources are going to this,
they aren't going elsewhere towards a genuine entry.
Think Silent Hill pachinko machines while the real artistic, evocative entries
are in the garbage.
Quote from: MattFiler on Jan 07, 2019, 09:55:06 PM
So here's something nobody seems to be talking about in amongst the Alien: Blackout news...
FoxNext announced that Cold Iron Studios' game is a MMO.
First bit of info we've had about the game since January last year.
https://www.dualshockers.com/alien-mmo-shooter-pc-consoles-foxnext/
Oh f**k everything.
This isn't a "genuine entry"?
Quote from: SM on Jan 08, 2019, 01:31:12 AM
This isn't a "genuine entry"?
*strokes chin* ....
But what constitutes a "genuine entry?"
Indeed.
Quote from: The Old One on Jan 08, 2019, 01:27:30 AM
Quote from: MattFiler on Jan 07, 2019, 09:55:06 PM
So here's something nobody seems to be talking about in amongst the Alien: Blackout news...
FoxNext announced that Cold Iron Studios' game is a MMO.
First bit of info we've had about the game since January last year.
https://www.dualshockers.com/alien-mmo-shooter-pc-consoles-foxnext/
Oh f**k everything.
Quote from: Huggs on Jan 08, 2019, 01:38:21 AM
Quote from: The Old One on Jan 08, 2019, 01:27:30 AM
Quote from: MattFiler on Jan 07, 2019, 09:55:06 PM
So here's something nobody seems to be talking about in amongst the Alien: Blackout news...
FoxNext announced that Cold Iron Studios' game is a MMO.
First bit of info we've had about the game since January last year.
https://www.dualshockers.com/alien-mmo-shooter-pc-consoles-foxnext/
Oh f**k everything.
HUGGS NO! DON'T GIVE UP!! I, I MEAN WE, NEED MORE HUMOR! I'M STILL DYING FROM THE LAST POST YOU MADE ABOUT THE MOBILE GAME... :D
"Dont you guys have phones?" Version 2019, what a load of crap.
You'd think that after all the bad press Blizzard and Konami got for Diablo and Castlevania mobile, other studios would take a hint...we're just not into it.
Quote from: SM on Jan 08, 2019, 01:31:12 AM
This isn't a "genuine entry"?
Not in my opinion.
But I was more stating what the gaming community thinks of Mobile gaming,
due to its history of getting triple AAA console sequels to critically acclaimed series cancelled-
in favour of cheaper Mobile entries, many drowning in microtransactions.
I'm going to fill this thread with....
(https://media2.giphy.com/media/bbLMrZ97fM8r6/giphy.gif?cid=19f5b51a5c3400b86a745272510fd6ec)
From what ive read mobile gaming is huge in the asian markets so companies are hoping on the bandwagon to milk it for all its worth
Quote from: SM on Jan 08, 2019, 01:31:12 AM
This isn't a "genuine entry"?
I think they're holding out for the Alien Entitlement game you mentioned earlier.
Quote from: The Old One on Jan 08, 2019, 01:45:32 AM
Quote from: SM on Jan 08, 2019, 01:31:12 AM
This isn't a "genuine entry"?
Not in my opinion.
But I was more stating what the gaming community thinks of Mobile gaming,
due to its history of getting triple AAA console sequels to critically acclaimed series cancelled-
in favour of cheaper Mobile entries, many drowning in microtransactions.
Gotta agree here, you really can't put mobile games in the same class as full priced PC/Console releases. One is meant to pass the time and usually to scam people out of their money, the other is supposed to (often failing these days) create a worthwhile experience to sink many hours into.
The negative reputation of mobile games has been well earned, but again, the fact that this isn't free to play is actually a good sign.
While this backlash is disheartening, it's 100% unsurprising and should've been easily spotted and mitigated by Fox.
I think it's alright as something on the side. And honestly, I expected it. They shouldn't have built so much hype for it though.
I'm more disappointed about Cold Iron's game being an MMO.
Quote from: PsyKore on Jan 08, 2019, 01:59:33 AM
I think it's alright as something on the side. And honestly, I expected it. They shouldn't have built so much hype for it though.
I'm more disappointed about Cold Iron's game being an MMO.
I'm 2 for 2, and it feels awful.
I will be suprised if there arent micro transactions on top of the base price "buy 5 extra power boost for $.99 includes one extra alien deterent(consumed on use)"
https://www.gameinformer.com/opinion/2019/01/07/alien-isolation-deserves-better-than-a-mobile-sequel
Wow, not a true sequal just milking that ripley(amanda or ellen doesnt matter anymore) name for all its worth
I believe I'm remembering correctly that SEGA announced they were disappointed with "Alien: Isolation" sales, and labeled them as 'weak'. If correct, I have to believe that is a factor here.
Massive Oof
Quote from: Huggs on Jan 08, 2019, 02:01:10 AM
Quote from: PsyKore on Jan 08, 2019, 01:59:30 AM
I think it's alright as something on the side. And honestly, I expected it. They shouldn't have built so much hype for it though.
I'm more disappointed about Cold Iron's game being an MMO.
I'm 2 for 2, and it feels awful.
I empathize.
MMOs... Ugh...
Quote from: Nazrel on Jan 08, 2019, 02:15:02 AM
Wow, not a true sequal just milking that ripley(amanda or ellen doesnt matter anymore) name for all its worth
I don't get what Fox sees on the Ripley milking, she isn't the reason most people are interested on alien related material, specially games.
Quote from: Samhain13 on Jan 08, 2019, 02:37:02 AM
Quote from: Nazrel on Jan 08, 2019, 02:15:02 AM
Wow, not a true sequal just milking that ripley(amanda or ellen doesnt matter anymore) name for all its worth
I don't get what Fox sees on the Ripley milking, she isn't the reason most people are interested on alien related material, specially games.
While yes ripley is an awesome character, the name gets shoe horned in so much just to sell stuff. Like out of shadows, river of pain and sea of rust? All the ripley connectns could have been removed. But Fox can go " oooo looky here, buy this book to see the untold ripley storybor ripley, ellen ripley is in the book, find out what happened to ellen ripley, buy (ripley) this(ripley) brand (ripley)new(ripley) untold (ripley) story!
Its getting really sickening and annoying to see a cool character bastardizied to sell more units.
Why is everything happening to this poor family.
Quote from: The Old One on Jan 08, 2019, 01:45:32 AM
Quote from: SM on Jan 08, 2019, 01:31:12 AM
This isn't a "genuine entry"?
Not in my opinion.
But I was more stating what the gaming community thinks of Mobile gaming,
due to its history of getting triple AAA console sequels to critically acclaimed series cancelled-
in favour of cheaper Mobile entries, many drowning in microtransactions.
So we're back to snobbery again?
As far as toxic fandoms go, video games take the cake.
Quite.
Quote from: SM on Jan 08, 2019, 03:54:11 AM
Quote from: The Old One on Jan 08, 2019, 01:45:32 AM
Quote from: SM on Jan 08, 2019, 01:31:12 AM
This isn't a "genuine entry"?
Not in my opinion.
But I was more stating what the gaming community thinks of Mobile gaming,
due to its history of getting triple AAA console sequels to critically acclaimed series cancelled-
in favour of cheaper Mobile entries, many drowning in microtransactions.
So we're back to snobbery again?
Under the premise that SEGA was accurate in saying they were disappointed with Alien: Isolation's "weak" sales, how can they not aim cheaper?
And being critically acclaimed doesn't pay the bills unfortunately. Otherwise I would have a Dredd sequel by now. :-\
Sega's expectations = unrealistic.
As beautiful as Isolation is, they could've made their money back
with far more profit if they made a middleware title.
But that's the problem nowadays, the middleware industry is dead
you're either as indie as it gets or a triple AAA blockbuster.
Just to put it into perspective, if they announced a proper console/pc sequel to Alien: Isolation, exactly zero people would be upset that it wasn't a mobile game.
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Quote from: SM on Jan 08, 2019, 03:54:10 AM
Quote from: The Old One on Jan 08, 2019, 01:45:32 AM
Quote from: SM on Jan 08, 2019, 01:31:12 AM
This isn't a "genuine entry"?
Not in my opinion.
But I was more stating what the gaming community thinks of Mobile gaming,
due to its history of getting triple AAA console sequels to critically acclaimed series cancelled-
in favour of cheaper Mobile entries, many drowning in microtransactions.
So we're back to snobbery again?
The majority of punters don't consider it genuine, clearly.
Quote from: RidgeTop on Jan 08, 2019, 01:55:36 AM
Gotta agree here, you really can't put mobile games in the same class as full priced PC/Console releases.
One is meant to pass the time and usually to scam people out of their money,
the other is supposed to (often failing these days) create a worthwhile experience to sink many hours into.
The negative reputation of mobile games has been well earned, but again, the fact that this isn't free to play is actually a good sign.
While this backlash is disheartening, it's 100% unsurprising and should've been easily spotted and mitigated by Fox.
Agreed.
Quote from: Mister Skeezler on Jan 08, 2019, 04:21:45 AM
Just to put it into perspective, if they announced a proper console/pc sequel to Alien: Isolation, exactly zero people would be upset that it wasn't a mobile game.
And to use the film Dredd again, if they announced a $100,000 Million dollar budgeted sequel, exactly zero people would be upset too... versus a Dredd web series for instance. But the first Dredd film wasn't successful enough to warrant a 100 Million dollar sequel, so I don't quite understand your point.
QuoteThe majority of punters don't consider it genuine, clearly.
:laugh:
Quote from: Local Trouble on Jan 08, 2019, 12:50:28 AM
Does that mean you're excited?
Right, right. Somebody said "alien game" disney thought they said "mobile alien game" and signed up!
Curious to see what it's going to look like, scared to watch the trailer, is it safe? Haven't played a mobile game since Tetris I think.
Quote from: Nostromo on Jan 08, 2019, 04:39:42 AM
Is it safe?
(https://66.media.tumblr.com/86d6a92fad88559f85799407f06ca716/tumblr_p4hyil5gCW1wxda0vo1_1280.jpg)
Perfectly safe, I assure you.
Spoiler
(https://66.media.tumblr.com/8bdf3ffc6316cb0aa18c5b630f795e8e/tumblr_p4hyil5gCW1wxda0vo2_1280.jpg)
Quote from: The Old One on Jan 08, 2019, 04:51:02 AM
Quote from: Nostromo on Jan 08, 2019, 04:39:42 AM
Is it safe?
(https://66.media.tumblr.com/86d6a92fad88559f85799407f06ca716/tumblr_p4hyil5gCW1wxda0vo1_1280.jpg)
Perfectly safe, I assure you.
Spoiler
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I applaud your perfectly timed pic/gif skill use.
Quote from: SiL on Jan 08, 2019, 03:56:43 AM
As far as toxic fandoms go, video games take the cake.
Alien Isolation was a great game. It makes very little sense to follow it up with a non-PC, non-console entry when the players on those platforms is who the game appealed to and was well-received by. It makes plenty of sense for those players, myself included, to be pissed about this.
I would care much less if this was its own thing, but being billed as a sequel to Alien Isolation feels like a slap in the face.
It's telling a story via a different medium. Though one much closer to the original medium than a comic or novel - neither of which have received this much unhinged vitriol.
Quote from: SM on Jan 08, 2019, 05:30:43 AM
It's telling a story via a different medium. Though one much closer to the original medium than a comic or novel - neither of which have received this much unhinged vitriol.
But it's more than just telling a story. It's technically a video game but it's in a totally different form. That's more than important to note. Radical alteration to gameplay.
Vitriol isn't always unwarranted, people don't want this- and they're letting everyone know.
And I wouldn't call the majority of it vitriol. Just expressions of disappointment.
"Not too late to get Creative Assembly on the phone guys...#AlienIsolation2" -Twitter
"Why #AlienIsolation was such a great game and deserved a follow up game on consoles. #PS4 #XboxOne #NintendoSwitch" -Twitter
"But...that's...not what we wanted." -Twitter
"We thought it would be a sequel to Isolation...we thought it would be something worth playing..."-Twitter
"Wow! You gaming companies never learn do you?
Did you already forget the extreme backlash that EA and Blizzard got when they announced C&C and Diablo mobile games?
You are doing exactly what they did at Blizzcon! Teasing a new game and announcing that it will be Mobile only." -Twitter
"Not what I expected. Hoped for a AAA experience like Isolation and I'm hugely disappointed now... :(" -Twitter
"I have loved the Alien movies and books for years. The first video game with #AmandaRipley brought me right back into the whole story.
We waited and we get a Mobile game. People don't invest that much time into mobile games. I still love Alien but I'm sorry, not a mobile game."
-Twitter
"Lame! I was hoping for a real successor to Alien: Isolation, not a mobile game." -Twitter
"Thank god another studio is working on an ACTUAL Alien game." -Twitter
The response seems pretty reasonable to me,
bearing in mind how most fandoms react to disappointing news.
A good half of those still fall in the snob category.
"We thought it would be something worth playing" ::)
Ahh a mobile game. I called it unfortunately.
I'll give this a go, it looks decent enough for an Alien Isolation skinned Five Nights at Freddie's. It is very fair that people hoping for a console game to be announced are disappointed by this. Though Fox has clarified that Alien: Blackout is not an official sequel to Isolation but instead just happens to share the main character, Amanda Ripley, so maybe there's still a chance for a console game Alien Isolation sequel.
This makes me wonder if this mobile game will be canon and if it will fit into the comic/book and the 'watch' aspect of these announcements.
Quote from: Frosty Venom on Jan 08, 2019, 05:52:49 AM
Ahh a mobile game. I called it unfortunately.
Though Fox has clarified that Alien: Blackout is not an official sequel to Isolation but instead just happens to share the main character, Amanda Ripley, so maybe there's still a chance for a console game Alien Isolation sequel.
I keep seeing this on different sites too. I wonder if it's Fox doing damage control as Hicks was pointing out earlier.
Quote from: SiL on Jan 08, 2019, 05:50:24 AM
A good half of those still fall in the snob category.
"We thought it would be something worth playing" ::)
How would you describe the correct way for fans to react?
The official trailer on YouTube is currently running 282 likes to 7.9k dislikes. That's higher than 96% disapproval. To say that's entirely due to fan toxicity is disingenuous. It's the mainstream sentiment across almost all reporting from gaming news outlets, from both the journalists and users. Naturally people want a proper sequel to Isolation given its cult status and rightfully or not, the recent hinting set everyone up for disappointment.
Though i don't play mobile games, I'm fine with it - why should they only work on prequels on PC/consoles? In the end it's about the money in most cases. There are huge companies behind all that content, if they think they make more money with mobile they'll focus on mobile. We will see, how much impact a bad reception has,"shitstorms" are a common thing these days.
First there was ALiens Colonial Marines. Than Prometheus. After that Covenant. And now this?!?!?! The hell is going on?!??!?
Time to get back to Alien Isolation - the best thing in the franchise since Alien 3.
Its not disingenuous. No one has even played the game and we've got her character returning in several future capacities which no one has seen as well. If that's not over-reacting, what is?
Quote from: CainsSon on Jan 08, 2019, 08:35:45 AM
Its not disingenuous. No one has even played the game and we've got her character returning in several future capacities which no one has seen as well. If that's not over-reacting, what is?
Quote from: RidgeTop on Jan 08, 2019, 06:59:09 AM
rightfully or not
Not saying the outrage is justified, just that it's entirely understandable and they should've seen it coming after the reception to mobile titles like Diablo Immortal and Command & Conquer: Rivals. This likely would've gone over better had it been totally its own thing rather than so visually and audibly similar to Isolation, or if they had unveiled whatever Cold Iron is working on first. This could end up being good, but it's clearly not what people wanted.
Even though this is a small scale game, having a PC/Console release of it would've helped, as we've seen with smaller titles like Aliens Vs. Pinball and the Five Nights at Freddy's games that are on both main platforms and mobile.
Also, occasionally outrage such as this actually leads to positive change. Just look at the Battlefront II fiasco.
Indeed.
EA singlehandedly killed Microtransactions in triple AAA gaming,
in certain regions- it was wholeheartedly outlawed.
Quote from: RidgeTop on Jan 08, 2019, 06:59:09 AM
The official trailer on YouTube is currently running 282 likes to 7.9k dislikes. That's higher than 96% disapproval. To say that's entirely due to fan toxicity is disingenuous. It's the mainstream sentiment across almost all reporting from gaming news outlets, from both the journalists and users. Naturally people want a proper sequel to Isolation given its cult status and rightfully or not, the recent hinting set everyone up for disappointment.
Ah. Youtube. That learned centre of nuanced critique.
Gimme a break.
This is all about a large amount of people doing their kid on Christmas morning who didn't get what he wanted tanty, with an extraordinary sense of entitlement and a complete self awareness bypass.
The sheer amount of digital diarrhea today would be despairing if it weren't so hilarious.
(https://i.kym-cdn.com/entries/icons/original/000/019/304/old.jpg)
Complaining about complaining.
Kind'a goes for a lot of the complaints about the game too though ;D
Quote from: SM on Jan 07, 2019, 09:00:13 PM
Shows what happens when people get sucked in by baseless click bait articles and Youtube videos.
I honestly believe this has such an impact on this reception. It's a victim of our own expectations and speculation. Just like the whole Game Award Show debacle.
Quote from: EeeeyyyForgotMyPassword on Jan 07, 2019, 09:30:07 PM
Can someone please tell me this isn't the game they said they would make last year and that this is a completely different thing
Nope. The Cold Iron thing is completely separate. Blackout is just extra icing on the cake.
Quote from: SM on Jan 07, 2019, 09:39:52 PM
Quote from: Cellien on Jan 07, 2019, 09:30:48 PM
Quote from: SiL on Jan 07, 2019, 09:13:07 PM
I don't have lots of spare hours to play console games
You gotta make time for hobbies; they don't make time for you.
Yeah 'cos mobile games aren't TRUE games and I always take my Xbox on my daily commute.
I revisited AvP Evolution this year. I occasionally replay the Aliens Pinball thing too. I'm so glad I'll have another Alien-based thing I can carry in my pocket on my phone. Well, if it's good in the end, that is.
Quote from: Samhain13 on Jan 07, 2019, 10:05:46 PM
I did enjoy AVP Evolution but as a sequel to Isolation this is disappointing.
Think of it as a sidequel. One of a good few Amanda related entries coming.
Quote from: Voodoo Magic on Jan 08, 2019, 02:18:51 AM
I believe I'm remembering correctly that SEGA announced they were disappointed with "Alien: Isolation" sales, and labeled them as 'weak'. If correct, I have to believe that is a factor here.
Indeed. I think a full blown sequel to Isolation wasn't likely. As much as we and most of the critics enjoyed Isolation, it disappointingly wasn't considered to have done well enough by Sega and the people who made the bills.
And now Fox Next is starting to put games out. They're a new company. They've already got one AAA on the go. Are they going to risk putting out another big game without a success under their belt? There's some real-world practicality to consider here.
And regarding Diablo - yeah, I think Fox knew exactly what was coming to them after this. I also don't think they were just going to stop working on a game that they'd been working on prior to that fiasco.
No matter how good the game is,
it was designed a particular way for a particular platform.
That's not going to change, obviously, but- the feedback
will make them think twice about developing for mobile again.
The audience is apparently uninterested in this platform.
(With an outpouring of yearning for #AlienIsolation2.)
I hope it is good though, because I also enjoyed AVP
Evolution. But if it's really just a FNAF clone, well...
I'm not terribly interested in that.
Quote from: RidgeTop on Jan 08, 2019, 09:12:59 AM
Not saying the outrage is justified, just that it's entirely understandable and they should've seen it coming after the reception to mobile titles like Diablo Immortal and Command & Conquer: Rivals. This likely would've gone over better had it been totally its own thing rather than so visually and audibly similar to Isolation, or if they had unveiled whatever Cold Iron is working on first. This could end up being good, but it's clearly not what people wanted.
Even though this is a small scale game, having a PC/Console release of it would've helped, as we've seen with smaller titles like Aliens Vs. Pinball and the Five Nights at Freddy's games that are on both main platforms and mobile.
Also, occasionally outrage such as this actually leads to positive change. Just look at the Battlefront II fiasco.
I do agree regarding the "being its own thing" comment. If this hadn't have had Amanda as the main character, I don't think the reaction would have been so bad. It is being perceived as a lesser sequel to Alien: Isolation.
Quote from: The Old One on Jan 08, 2019, 11:54:05 AM
The audience is apparently uninterested in this platform.
There are still lots of people who are plenty interested. I'm one of them! Can we stop acting like this is already universally despised and nobody will play it ...?
I'm certainly looking forward to giving it a go too!
Hurrah, there are at least three of us :P
Quote from: SiL on Jan 08, 2019, 12:30:16 PM
Quote from: The Old One on Jan 08, 2019, 11:54:05 AM
The audience is apparently uninterested in this platform.
There are still lots of people who are plenty interested. I'm one of them!
Can we stop acting like this is already universally despised and nobody will play it ...?
A few people I've seen, so far. Not plenty.
But as I said,
apparently uninterested.
Yeah I'm also keen to play this, it looks pretty cool.
We're still getting a sequel to Isolation with Resistance & "Read.Play.WATCH" and there's still an Aliens shooter coming on console.
So there's not much to complain about in my opinion. In fact there's a lot to be excited for.
Quote from: SiL on Jan 08, 2019, 12:30:17 PM
Quote from: The Old One on Jan 08, 2019, 11:54:05 AM
The audience is apparently uninterested in this platform.
There are still lots of people who are plenty interested. I'm one of them! Can we stop acting like this is already universally despised and nobody will play it ...?
Ditto.
Then again, like I said yesterday, the excitement I had, as a new fan whose only "real" experience with an Alien game came from an arcade, was quickly dispatched.
What I saw on Twitter was nothing short of sad. I really hope people's disappointment has died down to where you can hear other people out. Maybe this wouldn't have happened if Isolation wasn't put on such a high pedestal.
Quote from: TheSailingRabbit on Jan 08, 2019, 12:41:28 PM
What I saw on Twitter was nothing short of sad. I really hope people's disappointment has died down to where you can hear other people out. Maybe this wouldn't have happened if Isolation wasn't put on such a high pedestal.
I think the problem is they did a
really good job of generating hype for stuff that people don't expect that level of hype for. When marketing goes wrong -- but not the way you'd expect.
Quote from: SiL on Jan 08, 2019, 12:42:52 PM
Quote from: TheSailingRabbit on Jan 08, 2019, 12:41:28 PM
What I saw on Twitter was nothing short of sad. I really hope people's disappointment has died down to where you can hear other people out. Maybe this wouldn't have happened if Isolation wasn't put on such a high pedestal.
I think the problem is they did a really good job of generating hype for stuff that people don't expect that level of hype for. When marketing goes wrong -- but not the way you'd expect.
I think that's the best point right there. The marketing was much better than the reveal.
However, I'm interested in picking up the comics, so there's that.
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Isolation's on a pedestal for a reason lol.
I agree with SIL, they hyped people up-
and the uninformed saw Amanda Ripley,
then thought an Isolation sequel was a sure-fire announcement.
Blackout shouldn't have been hyped whatsoever,
in fact it should've probably been tact onto the
announcement of whatever "WATCH" is.
Agreed.
But hey, for those of you that are excited, I'm glad. I think a lot of us had different expectations (or hopes based on the teasers) on which way this would go.
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Don't get me wrong, I'm disappointed there's not another console/PC Isolation game.
But the world is not obligated to satisfy my expectations, so there's no sense shitting on this release for not pandering to my whims.
Quote from: SiL on Jan 08, 2019, 12:38:26 PM
Hurrah, there are at least three of us :P
Make that four of us!
Quote from: The Old One on Jan 08, 2019, 11:54:05 AM
the feedback will make them think twice about developing for mobile again. The audience is apparently uninterested in this platform.
QuoteI hope it is good though, because I also enjoyed AVP Evolution.
Sometimes fans can be their own worst enemy.
Out of the 118,000+ views the game's trailer has so far, only 9,600 downvoted it. The silent majority will probably try the game first before criticising it. And I suspect a great portion of who downvoted will ultimately try it too, and dare I say, really like it if it turns out to be a good game.
@Voodoo Magic
Well I mean, I'm not going to support the game.
Because if I do, that's an indication that
I want more games like this-
I don't. I'll play it long after the fact.
Unless it's truly fantastic,
but I have yet to see a Mobile game that is.
The thing about it looks and is advertised as a five nights clone. The gameplay for that isnt exactly the best. What peopke really liked sbout five nights is the story.
Whike i personally like the five nights story i hate the gameplay.
Again, plenty of people who love the gameplay and limited perspective of Five Nights.
Reminds me of one of the early ALIENS games where you had to switch perspective for all of the marines as you tried to escape Hadley's Hope. Tense as shit, even with all of eight bit graphics.
Who knows? This game might turn out to be really, really good, and Daniel Craig might turn out to be a great James Bond.
We just always have to wait and see.
Quote from: SiL on Jan 08, 2019, 01:19:04 PM
Again, plenty of people who love the gameplay and limited perspective of Five Nights.
A series of which Sales of the last entry were less than half of the previous.
I think Blackout may have missed the window as far as the FNAF formula's
longevity is concerned.
But the idea of eventually piecing together stories over the levels,
from clues in the environment as an Alien fan is a compelling idea.
Quote from: The Old One on Jan 08, 2019, 01:28:30 PM
A series of which Sales of the last entry were less than half of the previous.
I think Blackout may have missed the window as far as the FNAF formula's
longevity is concerned.
Or its particular story ran dry. FNAF's formula wasn't strictly unique to begin with.
EDIT
Also, rewatching the trailer, this kind of feels like the original
Alien adaptation remade with modern graphics and I'm not about to not be excited about that.
How can I get 'fear-induced' on a friggin' 3"x5" mobile screen? Bleurgh.
Quote from: SiL on Jan 08, 2019, 01:04:43 PM
Don't get me wrong, I'm disappointed there's not another console/PC Isolation game.
But the world is not obligated to satisfy my expectations, so there's no sense shitting on this release for not pandering to my whims.
Very true, but you're also not obligated to be satisfied with every product released in the franchise either.
Being disappointed in a product ≠ shitting on a product.
I just want to make sure we realize the difference between toxic fandom (a serious issue) and genuine disappointment (a normal human reaction).
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Quote from: USG Ishimure on Jan 08, 2019, 01:45:03 PM
How can I get 'fear-induced' on a friggin' 3"x5" mobile screen? Bleurgh.
It should also be playable on tablets too.
Quote from: SiL on Jan 08, 2019, 01:33:13 PM
Also, rewatching the trailer, this kind of feels like the original Alien adaptation remade with modern graphics and I'm not about to not be excited about that.
Quite a tongue-twister SiL! ;D But yes, I agree. I'm definitely excited about this.
Quote from: Mister Skeezler on Jan 08, 2019, 01:50:48 PM
Quote from: SiL on Jan 08, 2019, 01:04:43 PM
Don't get me wrong, I'm disappointed there's not another console/PC Isolation game.
But the world is not obligated to satisfy my expectations, so there's no sense shitting on this release for not pandering to my whims.
Very true, but you're also not obligated to be satisfied with every product released in the franchise either.
Being disappointed in a product ≠ shitting on a product.
I just want to make sure we realize the difference between toxic fandom (a serious issue) and genuine disappointment (a normal human reaction).
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This. If I'm actually being accused of being a toxic fan for not being happy with this announcement...get real.
My (least) favorite thing about this thread is the negative reaction to the (understandable) negative reactions. Unless you have ALIEN FAN tattooed on your forehead, the "unhinged vitriol" doesn't immediately affect you or represent you to others, so what does it matter? The people in here actively criticizing others' reactions are coming off as shills.
What is literally the worst thing that can happen to the Alien franchise because of backlash over this? They might not make another mobile game. That's it. Boo f**king hoo. The majority of comments made here, comments in other media platforms, and articles written by game journalists indicate that the majority of Alien fans engaged in online discourse didn't want this.
Not a single person in this thread has been prevented or prohibited from eventually buying and playing this game as a result of anyone's gut reaction yesterday.
I don't necessarily have a problem with mobile games, I just don't like that they're exclusive to mobile platforms. I might actually play this if it didn't require a tablet or a smartphone since I have neither.
Quote from: Local Trouble on Jan 08, 2019, 04:41:08 PM
I don't necessarily have a problem with mobile games, I just don't like that they're exclusive to mobile platforms. I might actually play this if it didn't require a tablet or a smartphone since I have neither.
There's free Android emulators that make it easy to run Android games in Windows. You'll still have to setup a Google Play account and pay for the game, but it should work fine.
I'd prefer a legit Xbox version. Xbox Live Arcade games used to be some of their best titles back in the day and a lot of mobile games would translate well to that format.
Mr. H's thoughts on the announcement:
I'm excited to give this a go! My main gripe with mobile games though is they often disappear (I believe it has to do with limited servers being used to source newer games). It's cool that the release coincides with issue 1 of Resistance. It seems we also have confirmation that the AAA title will be an MMO; I'm not a huge gamer so I'm unfamiliar with what an MMO entails. Hopefully it's story driven.
Quote from: RidgeTop on Jan 08, 2019, 06:19:51 PM
Mr. H's thoughts on the announcement:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0QW2w_5m3sI
Alien fans don't like mobile games? Alien fans aren't 15 year olds playing cell phone games? What is he talking about?
Every single person I know plays games on their phones. Where does this idea that only kids in foreign markets are the reason phone games are so profitable these days?
lol
I'm not even disappointed anymore. I don't care.
It's like knowing that next StarWars movie will suck bigtime. ;D
ACM's failure and the disappointing sales of Isolation practically guaranteed this would happen anyway.
Gamers should have actually purchased Isolation if they wanted a sequel so badly. I know most hardcore fans spoke with their wallets but the game had mediocre sales.
Now it seems like the whole gaming community thought Isolation was the best thing since sliced bread. Well obviously being one of the best alien games ever made wasnt enough to get the sales it needed to actually convince fox & sega that it was worth investing in a sequel.
Likewise, the MMO is probably their best bet at making back their investment and a respectable profit. That is, unless the fanbase roundly rejects the game altogether.
What is a mobile game?
Games made for smart phones.
Quote from: David's Creation on Jan 08, 2019, 07:03:48 PM
Quote from: RidgeTop on Jan 08, 2019, 06:19:51 PM
Mr. H's thoughts on the announcement:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0QW2w_5m3sI
Alien fans don't like mobile games? Alien fans aren't 15 year olds playing cell phone games? What is he talking about?
Every single person I know plays games on their phones. Where does this idea that only kids in foreign markets are the reason phone games are so profitable these days?
Some of us must not be real Alien fans, then, haha.
Quote from: Nostromo on Jan 08, 2019, 08:14:16 PM
What is a mobile game?
https://www.ign.com/articles/2018/11/22/the-best-mobile-games
Quote from: Mister Skeezler on Jan 08, 2019, 01:50:48 PM
Very true, but you're also not obligated to be satisfied with every product released in the franchise either.
Being disappointed in a product ≠ shitting on a product.
Absolutely! Nobody has to be excited about the announcement. But there are people desperately trying to comment - here and around the internet - that nobody wants it, that it's not worth playing, etc. just because it's not what they wanted. And those kinds of comments can take a running leap.
I wanted to give this the benefit of a doubt and support the franchise by trying it out even though I've never played mobile games. Now I see that my phone can't run the poor bugger. And I'm certainly not getting a tablet for just this, Too bad. If the game doesn't suck and there are no micro transactions, I hope it does well enough in terms of financial success. But yeah, don't try this again Fox if it doesn't work out too well... AVP Evolution seemed very fun, but this doesn't look as good.
Quote from: Hudson on Jan 08, 2019, 03:19:08 PM
Quote from: Mister Skeezler on Jan 08, 2019, 01:50:48 PM
Quote from: SiL on Jan 08, 2019, 01:04:43 PM
Don't get me wrong, I'm disappointed there's not another console/PC Isolation game.
But the world is not obligated to satisfy my expectations, so there's no sense shitting on this release for not pandering to my whims.
Very true, but you're also not obligated to be satisfied with every product released in the franchise either.
Being disappointed in a product ≠ shitting on a product.
I just want to make sure we realize the difference between toxic fandom (a serious issue) and genuine disappointment (a normal human reaction).
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This. If I'm actually being accused of being a toxic fan for not being happy with this announcement...get real.
My (least) favorite thing about this thread is the negative reaction to the (understandable) negative reactions. Unless you have ALIEN FAN tattooed on your forehead, the "unhinged vitriol" doesn't immediately affect you or represent you to others, so what does it matter? The people in here actively criticizing others' reactions are coming off as shills.
What is literally the worst thing that can happen to the Alien franchise because of backlash over this? They might not make another mobile game. That's it. Boo f**king hoo. The majority of comments made here, comments in other media platforms, and articles written by game journalists indicate that the majority of Alien fans engaged in online discourse didn't want this.
Not a single person in this thread has been prevented or prohibited from eventually buying and playing this game as a result of anyone's gut reaction yesterday.
"Won't somebody think of the whiners???"
Can we expect the story in this game to join the hallowed ranks of Alien canon alongside the likes of Out of the Shadows?
Quote from: Local Trouble on Jan 08, 2019, 04:41:08 PM
I don't necessarily have a problem with mobile games, I just don't like that they're exclusive to mobile platforms. I might actually play this if it didn't require a tablet or a smartphone since I have neither.
FOX really needs you to get with the program, OK. You're just holding everyone back.
(https://files.facepunch.com/forum/upload/110302/5f37bef5-78df-48ba-81e2-767506c455ee/image.png)
Don't be that guy/girl/they/them/xim/xer/attack helicopter
I didn't get a 55" HDTV so I could play games on a phone.
Quote from: Local Trouble on Jan 08, 2019, 10:36:47 PM
I didn't get a 55" HDTV so I could play games on a phone.
Got a 55 incher myself.
...TV, that is.
I got a 75", on which I will play the Cold Iron Studios game.
Until that comes out, I will play Blackout on my phone.
¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Quote from: Xhan on Jan 08, 2019, 10:28:18 PM
Quote from: Local Trouble on Jan 08, 2019, 04:41:08 PM
I don't necessarily have a problem with mobile games, I just don't like that they're exclusive to mobile platforms. I might actually play this if it didn't require a tablet or a smartphone since I have neither.
FOX really needs you to get with the program, OK. You're just holding everyone back.
(https://files.facepunch.com/forum/upload/110302/5f37bef5-78df-48ba-81e2-767506c455ee/image.png)
Don't be that guy/girl/they/them/xim/xer/attack helicopter
I knew that mobile games made lots of cash, but this much? HOW?! :o
Exasperated Sigh.
Quote from: Still Collating... on Jan 08, 2019, 11:35:48 PM
Quote from: Xhan on Jan 08, 2019, 10:28:18 PM
Quote from: Local Trouble on Jan 08, 2019, 04:41:08 PM
I don't necessarily have a problem with mobile games, I just don't like that they're exclusive to mobile platforms. I might actually play this if it didn't require a tablet or a smartphone since I have neither.
FOX really needs you to get with the program, OK. You're just holding everyone back.
(https://files.facepunch.com/forum/upload/110302/5f37bef5-78df-48ba-81e2-767506c455ee/image.png)
Don't be that guy/girl/they/them/xim/xer/attack helicopter
I knew that mobile games made lots of cash, but this much? HOW?! :o
If you ever take public transport - have a look around.
Quote from: SM on Jan 08, 2019, 11:57:53 PM
Quote from: Still Collating... on Jan 08, 2019, 11:35:48 PM
Quote from: Xhan on Jan 08, 2019, 10:28:18 PM
Quote from: Local Trouble on Jan 08, 2019, 04:41:08 PM
I don't necessarily have a problem with mobile games, I just don't like that they're exclusive to mobile platforms. I might actually play this if it didn't require a tablet or a smartphone since I have neither.
FOX really needs you to get with the program, OK. You're just holding everyone back.
(https://files.facepunch.com/forum/upload/110302/5f37bef5-78df-48ba-81e2-767506c455ee/image.png)
Don't be that guy/girl/they/them/xim/xer/attack helicopter
I knew that mobile games made lots of cash, but this much? HOW?! :o
If you ever take public transport - have a look around.
Yeah. But
(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190109/ef87b9c3fe496a142828cdbd6e8c7663.gif)
Asain market looooves mobile gaming
Quote from: SM on Jan 08, 2019, 10:06:39 PM
Quote from: Hudson on Jan 08, 2019, 03:19:08 PM
Quote from: Mister Skeezler on Jan 08, 2019, 01:50:48 PM
Quote from: SiL on Jan 08, 2019, 01:04:43 PM
Don't get me wrong, I'm disappointed there's not another console/PC Isolation game.
But the world is not obligated to satisfy my expectations, so there's no sense shitting on this release for not pandering to my whims.
Very true, but you're also not obligated to be satisfied with every product released in the franchise either.
Being disappointed in a product ≠ shitting on a product.
I just want to make sure we realize the difference between toxic fandom (a serious issue) and genuine disappointment (a normal human reaction).
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This. If I'm actually being accused of being a toxic fan for not being happy with this announcement...get real.
My (least) favorite thing about this thread is the negative reaction to the (understandable) negative reactions. Unless you have ALIEN FAN tattooed on your forehead, the "unhinged vitriol" doesn't immediately affect you or represent you to others, so what does it matter? The people in here actively criticizing others' reactions are coming off as shills.
What is literally the worst thing that can happen to the Alien franchise because of backlash over this? They might not make another mobile game. That's it. Boo f**king hoo. The majority of comments made here, comments in other media platforms, and articles written by game journalists indicate that the majority of Alien fans engaged in online discourse didn't want this.
Not a single person in this thread has been prevented or prohibited from eventually buying and playing this game as a result of anyone's gut reaction yesterday.
"Won't somebody think of the whiners???"
Again, what was the correct response to the Alien Blackout reveal that most of us have allegedly gotten wrong?
"Won't someone think of the wholesome corporation trying to sell us stuff???
Perhaps this
https://youtu.be/lozoHJ5QU3I (https://youtu.be/lozoHJ5QU3I)
I think the true answer is more authoritarian than the proponents want to admit.
Your a real peach Hudson. :laugh:
Quote from: 426Buddy on Jan 08, 2019, 07:44:44 PM
Gamers should have actually purchased Isolation if they wanted a sequel so badly. I know most hardcore fans spoke with their wallets but the game had mediocre sales.
Now it seems like the whole gaming community thought Isolation was the best thing since sliced bread. Well obviously being one of the best alien games ever made wasnt enough to get the sales it needed to actually convince fox & sega that it was worth investing in a sequel.
IsolAlien was never a concept that was going to drive sales the way SEGA wanted it to. Not only is the genre p much dead and dying then, but at its heyday had either far FAR cheaper alternatives or much more well established franchises riffing on it that didn't have both bad game and bad movie baggage attached. Their expectations were on par with Square's absurd projections for their western properties that they still haven't learned how to manage for their OWN properties, much less separate already established IPs.
The good news is their material and chamfering system is going to make Star Citizen look really pretty.
Quote from: Hudson on Jan 09, 2019, 12:41:34 AM
Quote from: SM on Jan 08, 2019, 10:06:39 PM
Quote from: Hudson on Jan 08, 2019, 03:19:08 PM
Quote from: Mister Skeezler on Jan 08, 2019, 01:50:48 PM
Quote from: SiL on Jan 08, 2019, 01:04:43 PM
Don't get me wrong, I'm disappointed there's not another console/PC Isolation game.
But the world is not obligated to satisfy my expectations, so there's no sense shitting on this release for not pandering to my whims.
Very true, but you're also not obligated to be satisfied with every product released in the franchise either.
Being disappointed in a product ≠ shitting on a product.
I just want to make sure we realize the difference between toxic fandom (a serious issue) and genuine disappointment (a normal human reaction).
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This. If I'm actually being accused of being a toxic fan for not being happy with this announcement...get real.
My (least) favorite thing about this thread is the negative reaction to the (understandable) negative reactions. Unless you have ALIEN FAN tattooed on your forehead, the "unhinged vitriol" doesn't immediately affect you or represent you to others, so what does it matter? The people in here actively criticizing others' reactions are coming off as shills.
What is literally the worst thing that can happen to the Alien franchise because of backlash over this? They might not make another mobile game. That's it. Boo f**king hoo. The majority of comments made here, comments in other media platforms, and articles written by game journalists indicate that the majority of Alien fans engaged in online discourse didn't want this.
Not a single person in this thread has been prevented or prohibited from eventually buying and playing this game as a result of anyone's gut reaction yesterday.
"Won't somebody think of the whiners???"
Again, what was the correct response to the Alien Blackout reveal that most of us have allegedly gotten wrong?
"Won't someone think of the wholesome corporation trying to sell us stuff???
Don't mind me. I'm just a shill.
::)
And I'm an unhinged, vitriolic snob.
I like where this is headed.
Two men enter. One man leaves.
Two men enter. One man leaves.
Two men enter. One man leaves.
(https://media1.giphy.com/media/RFIuO4XWzU8gg/giphy.gif?cid=19f5b51a5c35599132717258490c82d7)
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Does this mean Randy can count on SM's support too?
Quote from: Voodoo Magic on Jan 09, 2019, 02:18:17 AM
Two men enter. One man leaves.
Two men enter. One man leaves.
Two men enter. One man leaves.
https://media1.giphy.com/media/RFIuO4XWzU8gg/giphy.gif?cid=19f5b51a5c35599132717258490c82d7
SM is a yes man.
George Lucas and Disney would love him!
[emoji854]
Xhan's correct.
SEGA's Isolation expectations, projections...
Unrealistic.
Isolation sold incredibly well.
Considering it's Genre, ACM &
the history of movie-licensed games.
(& Cheaper alternatives.)
Enough, please.
The official D3 Go! trailer post on YouTube--at this moment in time--is sitting at 620 up-votes, 23,000 down-votes. Pretty hilarious when one of the prominent arguments in support of this game boils down to: "it's fine because it's a business decision that makes financial sense."
I had not actually watched the Diablo Immortal Q&A/reveal yet. Deliciously awkward. The folks behind Alien Blackout were smart not to put themselves up on a stage when they announced this game.
But not so smart that they didn't announce it after something else.
Deja-vu
https://pics.ballmemes.com/you-guys-all-do-anal-right-diablo-immortal-a-37485158.png
Quote from: The Old One on Jan 09, 2019, 06:43:08 AM
But not so smart that they didn't announce it after something else.
Like what? There's no other game planned for this multi-media initiative. There's no other game coming out any time soon.
Quote from: Hudson on Jan 09, 2019, 06:42:02 AM
The official D3 Go! trailer post on YouTube--at this moment in time--is sitting at 620 up-votes, 23,000 down-votes. Pretty hilarious when one of the prominent arguments in support of this game boils down to: "it's fine because it's a business decision that makes financial sense."
Justin Bieber's
Baby was the most disliked video for years. It went gold and platinum across multiple countries. It's a piece of shit song to be sure -- but acting like YouTube likes and dislikes is an indication of financial performance is really desperate.
I'm not desperate for anything except your love. :-*
You're having an emotional reaction to people's emotional reactions. It's okay, We'll get through this. I'm here to help. Let me hold you close if that's what you need.
Announce the WATCH thing, then tack Alien Blackout onto the end of that announcement.
That would at least mitigate the problem.
Or announce something about the Cold Iron game if fiesable.
Even if it's just a piece of concept art and the title,
the title doesn't even need to be the real title-
The Witcher 3's title changed a year before it came out.
Quote from: Hudson on Jan 09, 2019, 07:43:35 AM
You're having an emotional reaction to people's emotional reactions.
I'm mostly getting annoyed by people trying to talk for others...
Quote from: The Old One on Jan 09, 2019, 07:44:24 AM
Announce the WATCH thing, then tack Alien Blackout onto the end of that announcement.
That would at least mitigate the problem.
Pardon my French, but horseshit. People would still complain it's a mobile game and feel let down that it's not a "true" sequel. They might even feel it was
more of a letdown if the "watch" part is good.
EDIT
...yes I appreciate the irony of these two paragraphs.
QuoteOr announce something about the Cold Iron game if fiesable.
That's not part of this multimedia initiative.
Quote from: The Old One on Jan 09, 2019, 07:44:24 AM
Announce the WATCH thing, then tack Alien Blackout onto the end of that announcement.
That would at least mitigate the problem.
Or announce something about the Cold Iron game if fiesable.
Even if it's just a piece of concept art and the title,
the title doesn't even need to be the real title-
The Witcher 3's title changed a year before it came out.
We'll forget about any of those missteps when Blackout goes full diamond in multiple countries. My mom will be playing it on her iPad. My dad will upgrade to smartphone so he can play it. My sister will play it even though she's a console gamer. If I'm still teaching at that point I'm sure all of my students will be playing it during class, but shit I won't care because I'll be playing it too!
@SIL
People would still complain- but you're wrong;
I know from watching hundreds of gaming conferences-
For example;
Gears of War POP Edition, hurt significantly less
because it came immediately after a GOW 5 announcement.
If they put out the WATCH announcement out at the same time,
or immediately after the PLAY announcement-
There would still be backlash, but it'd be mitigated.
Then make it part of the initiative.
They should've done.
They should've had the foresight to
after the Diablo Immortal fiasco.
Quote from: The Old One on Jan 09, 2019, 07:55:13 AM
Then make it part of the initiative.
They should've done.
They should've had the foresight to
after the Diablo Immortal fiasco.
But it doesn't have anything to do with Amanda Ripley, so now you're saying to shoehorn in a character for the sake of saving face on a mobile game announcement.
... Seems an awful lot of work just so people would complain a little less.
When did I say shoehorn in a character?
An announcement of:
"Alien X" - with a piece of concept art.
Alongside the mobile game.
Wouldn't be all that much work.
&
Yes, I think it would be worth it
to prevent the current PR situation.
Quote... Seems an awful lot of work just so people would complain a little less.
Wait, so now you don't care about people complaining? Which is it?
Quote from: The Old One on Jan 09, 2019, 08:00:30 AM
When did I say shoehorn in a character?
The initiative is about Amanda Ripley. Announcing the other game as part of it would be pointless if she's not in it.
Quote from: Hudson on Jan 09, 2019, 08:03:12 AM
Quote... Seems an awful lot of work just so people would complain a little less.
Wait, so now you don't care about people complaining? Which is it?
I don't give a shit if people are disappointed and let it be known.
It's the "Nobody wants this", "This is going to be awful" bull crap I care about. Which I've said
repeatedly.
I'd rather just play Alien Isolation on a PC..
Quote from: SiL on Jan 09, 2019, 08:31:35 AM
Quote from: The Old One on Jan 09, 2019, 08:00:30 AM
When did I say shoehorn in a character?
The initiative is about Amanda Ripley. Announcing the other game as part of it would be pointless if she's not in it.
It's not pointless.
It would mitigate the response that Blackout has gotten is the point.
By drawing the gaming community's response to Cold Iron's game.
Regardless of whether it's part of the READ.PLAY.WATCH
initiative or just alongside it.
Quote from: The Old One on Jan 09, 2019, 08:45:20 AM
It's not pointless.
It would mitigate the response that Blackout has gotten is the point.
By drawing the gaming community's response to Cold Iron's game.
The whole thing is Read.Watch.Play different stories about Amanda Ripley. The second they said "play", people were hoping for a sequel to Isolation on PC and consoles.
Throwing out the Cold Iron game, then saying "That's not actually it, that's it's just something else",
then showing the mobile game, would not have gone down any better. Quite possibly it would have made everything
worse, by dangling a project that looks like what they want -- a console/PC Alien game -- then swapping it out for the mobile offering.
The Gears of War analogy you offered isn't accurate at all because people
still got the GoW 5 they expected. If they'd announced the "proper" Isolation II,
then this on top, yeah; people would care less. But that was never on the tables.
Quote from: SiL on Jan 09, 2019, 08:31:35 AM
Quote from: The Old One on Jan 09, 2019, 08:00:30 AM
When did I say shoehorn in a character?
The initiative is about Amanda Ripley. Announcing the other game as part of it would be pointless if she's not in it.
Quote from: Hudson on Jan 09, 2019, 08:03:12 AM
Quote... Seems an awful lot of work just so people would complain a little less.
Wait, so now you don't care about people complaining? Which is it?
I don't give a shit if people are disappointed and let it be known.
It's the "Nobody wants this", "This is going to be awful" bull crap I care about. Which I've said repeatedly.
Actually, you looked down your nose and accused people of being entitled snobs. Don't sell yourself short.
Let
this be known: There hasn't been a single entitled negative reaction to this news yet. How, you're probably asking? Because no one is being given anything. If someone receives a gift for Christmas, says, "I don't want this" and gives it back, they may be entitled. They might even be a spoiled brat. If someone says "I don't want this" in the context of being sold something they never asked for, that a community of fans never gave any indication of asking for, they are not entitled.
Telling people they should feel grateful for having the opportunity to buy something is about as shamelessly capitalist as one can get short of being an NFL team owner.
Quote from: SiL on Jan 09, 2019, 09:05:50 AM
Quote from: The Old One on Jan 09, 2019, 08:45:20 AM
It's not pointless.
It would mitigate the response that Blackout has gotten is the point.
By drawing the gaming community's response to Cold Iron's game.
Throwing out the Cold Iron game, then saying "That's not actually it, that's it's just something else", then showing the mobile game, would not have gone down any better.
Quite possibly it would have made everything worse, by dangling a project that looks like what they want -- a console/PC Alien game -- then swapping it out for the mobile offering.
Absolute nonsense.
It would've gone down much better,
if you'd shown them at the same time.
If you'd put out a PLAY announcement video-
that's literally this:
"Here's Cold Iron's Alien game, coming when it's ready."
"In the meantime there's this mobile offering."
It would've garnered a much better reaction, to argue otherwise is silly.
Quote from: Hudson on Jan 09, 2019, 09:11:46 AM
Quote from: SiL on Jan 09, 2019, 08:31:35 AM
Quote from: The Old One on Jan 09, 2019, 08:00:30 AM
When did I say shoehorn in a character?
The initiative is about Amanda Ripley. Announcing the other game as part of it would be pointless if she's not in it.
Quote from: Hudson on Jan 09, 2019, 08:03:12 AM
Quote... Seems an awful lot of work just so people would complain a little less.
Wait, so now you don't care about people complaining? Which is it?
I don't give a shit if people are disappointed and let it be known.
It's the "Nobody wants this", "This is going to be awful" bull crap I care about. Which I've said repeatedly.
Actually, you looked down your nose and accused people of being entitled snobs. Don't sell yourself short.
Let this be known: There hasn't been a single entitled negative reaction to this news yet. How, you're probably asking? Because no one is being given anything. If someone receives a gift for Christmas, says, "I don't want this" and gives it back, they may be entitled. They might even be a spoiled brat. If someone says "I don't want this" in the context of being sold something they never asked for, that a community of fans never gave any indication of asking for, they are not entitled.
Telling people they should feel grateful for having the opportunity to buy something is about as shamelessly capitalist as one can get short of being an NFL team owner.
Are you mixing SiL up with me?
Quote from: Hudson on Jan 09, 2019, 09:11:46 AM
Actually, you looked down your nose and accused people of being entitled snobs.
Yes, in response to people trying to say that nobody would be interested, that this isn't what "we" wanted, etc.
The examples of people actually acting like entitled snobs.
I haven't had anything to say about people saying they were disappointed that it's not the game they hoped for; just
how some people have decided to express that.
Quote from: The Old One on Jan 09, 2019, 09:12:59 AM
"Here's Cold Iron's Alien game, coming when it's ready."
"In the meantime there's this mobile offering."
You're very disingenuously missing out crucial information.
"We're running a cryptic campaign about three
Alien Isolation-related media -- something to read, a game to play, and something to watch. The 'Read' is a comic. Now here's Cold Iron's Alien game, a PC/console shooter ... which has
nothing to do with all this
Isolation stuff we're advertising. Nothing to do with
Isolation at all, in fact. Meanwhile, here's the
actual Isolation offering. Mobile game. Hope you like it."
If they hadn't pushed the Amanda Ripley/Isolation angle at
all, again, I'd concede the point. But as it stands you're really not selling the "avoid a negative reaction by dashing people's hopes twice in fast succession" angle here.
Quote from: SM on Jan 09, 2019, 09:18:35 AM
Are you mixing SiL up with me?
SiL, sir. He's SM.
"If they hadn't pushed the Amanda Ripley/Isolation angle at all, again, I'd concede the point.
But as it stands you're really not selling the "avoid a negative reaction by dashing people's hopes twice in fast succession" angle here."
So, when you see the reaction to Diablo Immortal.
And you've got an Amanda Ripley Mobile game-
don't make the marketing all about Amanda Ripley-
Or Alien Isolation.
I thought you'd take it for granted that in my hypothetical,
this would be the case- I wasn't being disingenuous.
So it's back where it started -- change the entire unified strategy of the three inter-related media components just so that one of them didn't get as much backlash.
I think the benefits the other two pieces will receive are going to end up outweighing the game's poor reaction.
Quote from: SiL on Jan 09, 2019, 09:45:58 AM
So it's back where it started -
change the entire unified strategy of the three inter-related media components just so that
one of them didn't get as much backlash.
I was always advocating for that, and yes-
I think the initial mistake is centring the marketing campaign,
around a character known from a Triple AAA videogame.
With READ.
PLAY.WATCH being a major element-
people are then going to expect a Triple AAA videogame.
Not Alien Blackout. (Mobile Phone Game)
Quote from: The Old One on Jan 09, 2019, 10:01:58 AM
With READ.PLAY.WATCH being a major element-
people are then going to expect a Triple AAA videogame.
Not Alien Blackout. (Mobile Phone Game)
Maybe they meant for you to be able to do all three at the same time.
At the risk of re-igniting stuff - Alien: Blackout is not an Isolation sequel despite using the same main character (https://www.gameinformer.com/2019/01/07/fox-says-alien-blackout-isnt-a-sequel-to-isolation-despite-sharing-a-main-character)
QuoteFox reached out to Game Informer to clarify that "[Blackout] is a standalone game that shares Amanda Ripley as a main character but is not related to or a sequel of Isolation." We've amended the original story's terminology to better reflect the nature of what the game is.
Reads like a lot of "ehh" and nothingness. Of course it's related to Isolation if it's featuring Amanda.
"We have no idea, but it's likely this" :D
"A few hours after revealing Blackout, the official Alien account tweeted that there was "more to come,"
possibly as a response to fans' backlash to Blackout's announcement.
What #ReadPlayWATCH means is anyone's guess at this point but that likely means more games as well,
including hopefully a look at the Aliens shooter that Cold Iron Studios is working on."
Uh...
(https://i.imgur.com/4YlXChN.gif)
Hopefully a look at the Aliens shooter that Cold Iron Studios is working on.
(https://thumbs.gfycat.com/SociableBleakAssassinbug-small.gif)
How do I get outta this chicken shit outfit?
Quote from: The Old One on Jan 09, 2019, 12:20:20 PM
"A few hours after revealing Blackout, the official Alien account tweeted that there was "more to come,"
possibly as a response to fans' backlash to Blackout's announcement.
What #ReadPlayWATCH means is anyone's guess at this point but that likely means more games as well,
including hopefully a look at the Aliens shooter that Cold Iron Studios is working on."
Uh...
https://i.imgur.com/4YlXChN.gif
Hopefully a look at the Aliens shooter that Cold Iron Studios is working on.
https://thumbs.gfycat.com/SociableBleakAssassinbug-small.gif
Imagine that. They might not have so much contempt for us gamers that they think we're too stupid to receive concurrent news of multiple games not all featuring the same protagonist.
Quote from: Corporal Hicks on Jan 09, 2019, 11:06:05 AM
At the risk of re-igniting stuff - Alien: Blackout is not an Isolation sequel despite using the same main character (https://www.gameinformer.com/2019/01/07/fox-says-alien-blackout-isnt-a-sequel-to-isolation-despite-sharing-a-main-character)
Uh...I couldn't be arsed to play Isolation, but if that was Amanda's first encounter with the alien, how is this
not a sequel?
Or has it already been de-canonized out of the gate?
Personally, I have witnessed a lot of the all encompassing "the fans don't want this" commentary in various places, and all I know is they are not speaking for me. I'm personally looking forward to giving this game a whirl, even if the always lovely "you're not a real fan" criticism follows.
I've mentioned before that in my perspective, Alien is a film franchise, and any of its side dishes are not accepted as canon to me (like most of the casual movie going public). Not video games, comics, or novels. But what I do hope comes out of this product, is more goodwill towards Amanda Ripley, enough to convince studios to proceed with her story theatrically, with an adaptation of her alternate media stories. That's my hope at least, and if this mobile game is received well and very successful financially, it can lead to that.
Nah, Alien Isolation's canon.
To most of the public that know it.
And considering that the gaming industry-
is bigger than the film industry, that's lots
of people that recognise Isolation as legitimate.
Especially because it's well-regarded both as a
quality product and for pioneering gaming A.I.
I hope Amanda Ripley never appears in cinemas.
In my ranking of Alien Canon priority it goes;
Films, The Cold Forge, Alien Isolation,
WY Report, David's Drawings,
Other Novels & Comics.
KOTOR used to be canon too.
Until it wasn't.
Quote from: The Old One on Jan 09, 2019, 02:45:08 PM
Nah, Alien Isolation's canon.
To most of the public that know it.
And considering that the gaming industry-
is bigger than the film industry, that's lots
of people that recognise Isolation as legitimate.
Especially because it's well-regarded both as a
quality product and for pioneering gaming A.I.
I hope Amanda Ripley never appears in cinemas.
In my ranking of Alien Canon priority it goes;
Films, The Cold Forge, Alien Isolation,
WY Report, David's Drawings,
Other Novels & Comics.
I know the gaming industry is bigger than the film industry, but you're comparing industries. And we're not talking Fortnite, God of War or NBA2K19 here. Sega themselves said 'Alien Isolation' sales were "weak". And except for the people who played it, I strongly believe that most of the general public is unaware of it, or not conscious of it until reminded (yeah, I do remember seeing that game on the shelf, now that you mention it). But I digress.
I know to the serious Alien fans, "Alien Isolation" is considered canon like the novels and comics, and I wasn't saying that it's illegitimate. I'm not. All I'm saying is the general movie-going public (non fanatic) won't include video games in canon, and that's the way I look at it too. That's why I would like to see Amanda's story on the big screen one day. :)
Quote from: Local Trouble on Jan 09, 2019, 03:01:50 PM
KOTOR used to be canon too.
Until it wasn't.
Perfect timing. :)
The thing about Isolation, which has been highlighted multiple times already, is that it was a labor of love. We've brought up the fact that it was a niche game in a 'dead' genre (someone used that term previously), meaning that while the game is a licensed piece of media created as a product, they took a very admirable risk. The plot may not be perfect, the characterization is weak, but the gameplay is outstanding. They took a gamble and hit a home run.
You're going to have a hard time convincing me that Alien Blackout is being created with even remotely the same level of zeal. They're not taking a single risk with it. Yes, every one of these films, books, games, etc. is a Fox cash grab through a certain lens, but this game feels merely like a cash grab that isn't trying to transcend anything else happening in the industry. It's falling in line with what's becoming standard, which is a boring, cynical decision. And let's not pretend like this game's profits are going to feed directly into more efforts to make Alien games. It's going to drop into the Disneyfox fund and go wherever they need it, like our tax money in the US.
Isolation deviated from the expected norm, and the fans were rewarded by supporting the experiment. Alien Blackout, if you take 30 seconds to read a couple lines of the Diablo Immortal wikipedia section on its reception, is hitting all the same notes. I mean, it's $5. Maybe I'll buy it, but definitely not until I see some reviews, and I don't have a single objective reason to feel optimistic.
Quote from: The Old One on Jan 09, 2019, 02:45:08 PM
Nah, Alien Isolation's canon.
To most of the public that know it.
And considering that the gaming industry-
is bigger than the film industry, that's lots
of people that recognise Isolation as legitimate.
Especially because it's well-regarded both as a
quality product and for pioneering gaming A.I.
I hope Amanda Ripley never appears in cinemas.
In my ranking of Alien Canon priority it goes;
Films, The Cold Forge, Alien Isolation,
WY Report, David's Drawings,
Other Novels & Comics.
I get that we all like The Cold Forge, and that it's a relevant text in many ways w/r/t both it's quality and the nature of Titan's inclusiveness for hiring a non-binary author, but it's canonical connection to the films is, at best, tenuous. There's a mention of Burke and Van Leuwan.
Quote from: Local Trouble on Jan 09, 2019, 03:01:50 PM
KOTOR used to be canon too.
Until it wasn't.
APATHY is DEATH.
The Cold Forge's lack of connections to the films is a strength.
It's highly, highly unlikely to be overridden.
And more Alien stories should divorce themselves
from the events and characters we already know.
Quote from: The Old One on Jan 09, 2019, 04:20:02 PM
Quote from: Local Trouble on Jan 09, 2019, 03:01:50 PM
KOTOR used to be canon too.
Until it wasn't.
APATHY is DEATH.
The Cold Forge's lack of connections to the films is a strength.
It's highly, highly unlikely to be overridden.
And more Alien stories should divorce themselves
from the events and characters we already know.
Fair, but that makes its connections empty and unsatisfying. There's more of a connection to
Aliens in the paratext on the back of the book than within the text itself.
Blackout is likely to feel the same way, even with Amanda Ripley returning from Isolation. I mean, all those characters died in the game, so what's left to provide any continuity? The plot will probably be unsatisfying in that way, or even nonexistent.
I don't see that as a weakness. For The Cold Forge, that is.
Quote from: The Old One on Jan 09, 2019, 05:44:45 PM
I don't see that as a weakness. For The Cold Forge, that is.
It's a weakness if it was their goal to create a solid connection, because they failed to achieve that goal. That's probably neither here nor there, because investigating their intent doesn't change the final product sitting in front of us. It's whatever. I think the book is good but I'm not flying off the handle about it. Maybe after a second read. *shrugs*
For Blackout it will probably be a weakness, but I doubt there's a lot of intentional depth behind it.
Well, the title is A L I E N- The Cold Forge, not Aliens and it feels like it.
Quote from: The Old One on Jan 09, 2019, 05:52:58 PM
Well, the title is A L I E N- The Cold Forge, not Aliens and it feels like it.
Slapping a franchise title on something doesn't automatically make it good. If the content is less than what came before it, nobody will invest in it.
Look at the Star Wars movies...they are in sharp decline. The merchandise doesn't sell. The books and comics have suffered as well. The games are abysmal because EA/Lucasfilm turned it into gambling with microtransactions through loot boxes for in game powerups/shortcuts to beat other players (Battlefront 2, 2017)The campaign has nothing to offer because it was one thing in advertisement and something else entirely in reality.
Quote from: Clanleaderyautja on Jan 09, 2019, 06:27:44 PM
Quote from: The Old One on Jan 09, 2019, 05:52:58 PM
Well, the title is A L I E N- The Cold Forge, not Aliens and it feels like it.
Slapping a franchise title on something doesn't automatically make it good.
If the content is less than what came before it, nobody will invest in it.
Obviously, but that's irrelevant in the case of TCF.
That was an expensive mistake
Thanks Trouble, it was good to see Randy again.
Quote from: Hudson on Jan 09, 2019, 06:42:02 AM
The official D3 Go! trailer post on YouTube--at this moment in time--is sitting at 620 up-votes, 23,000 down-votes. Pretty hilarious when one of the prominent arguments in support of this game boils down to: "it's fine because it's a business decision that makes financial sense."
I had not actually watched the Diablo Immortal Q&A/reveal yet. Deliciously awkward. The folks behind Alien Blackout were smart not to put themselves up on a stage when they announced this game.
Actually the ratio is about 2000-1, Blizz took the video down three times previous to attempt to erase most of the down votes, and youtube let them.
A smarter thing to have done would be this is the story of Axel's attempt to help people during the initial shitstorm before he got all FIPTSD, rather than both kicking fans in the balls over broken sequels and mitigating the actual good will they'd garnered from that versus their other offerings over the subsequent time.
But insulation and only listening to those whom evangelize in your favor tends to make you a moron over time.
You know, this doesn't necessarily have to be a mobile exclusive forever.
https://www.destructoid.com/future-plans-for-five-nights-at-freddy-s-include-console-ports-and-a-big-budget-game--530990.phtml
Quote from: Local Trouble on Jan 09, 2019, 10:25:59 PM
You know, this doesn't necessarily have to be a mobile exclusive forever.
https://www.destructoid.com/future-plans-for-five-nights-at-freddy-s-include-console-ports-and-a-big-budget-game--530990.phtml
Literally almost nobody is complaining about mobile
exclusivity.
So will you not be buying this?
Won't have microtransactions:
https://variety.com/2019/gaming/news/alien-blackout-interview-1203103736/?fbclid=IwAR2C-7FxaO3ujid2C7-C4-lmBjPbd9R3xlnvNKJJaQ29FIjwfMs4lISmSU0
hmm well then...
Quote from: RidgeTop on Jan 09, 2019, 11:18:05 PM
Won't have microtransactions:
https://variety.com/2019/gaming/news/alien-blackout-interview-1203103736/?fbclid=IwAR2C-7FxaO3ujid2C7-C4-lmBjPbd9R3xlnvNKJJaQ29FIjwfMs4lISmSU0 (https://variety.com/2019/gaming/news/alien-blackout-interview-1203103736/?fbclid=IwAR2C-7FxaO3ujid2C7-C4-lmBjPbd9R3xlnvNKJJaQ29FIjwfMs4lISmSU0)
Sounds like Morse's door wouldn't close.
No microtransactions? And just like that, it's already not as bad as some made it out to be.
Quote from: Local Trouble on Jan 09, 2019, 11:29:12 PM
Sounds like Morse's door wouldn't close.
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Alien Anthology Twitter: "I think we better rethink this thing!"
Quote from: RidgeTop on Jan 09, 2019, 11:18:05 PM
Won't have microtransactions:
https://variety.com/2019/gaming/news/alien-blackout-interview-1203103736/?fbclid=IwAR2C-7FxaO3ujid2C7-C4-lmBjPbd9R3xlnvNKJJaQ29FIjwfMs4lISmSU0
Where does it say no microtransactions? All it says is:
"The 'Diablo' backlash was focused on free-to-play and mobile, our game is a premium mobile game where you pay one price and you're done. It's a contained experience."
That *doesn't* guarantee no microtransactions. Unless they specifically say it, I'm not confirming that as no microtransactions. Because you can't give them wiggle room on that, or they push the envelope.
I mean I guess I have to say it, but they are bad for us as consumers. I hope there won't be any.
https://www.businessinsider.com/microtransactions-are-ruining-video-games-2015-4
Being f**ked over by countless games, franchises, and companies has made me very, very, very jaded. And I fully admit and own that.
Quote"You pay one price and you're done."
How else is that to be interpreted?
Quote from: Voodoo Magic on Jan 09, 2019, 11:43:20 PM
No microtransactions? And just like that, it's already not as bad as some made it out to be.
"Not as bad as some made it out to be" sounds like something to aspire to.
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One way.
No micro-transactions.
Are you disappointed?
Quote from: Clanleaderyautja on Jan 09, 2019, 11:53:25 PM
Quote from: RidgeTop on Jan 09, 2019, 11:18:05 PM
Won't have microtransactions:
https://variety.com/2019/gaming/news/alien-blackout-interview-1203103736/?fbclid=IwAR2C-7FxaO3ujid2C7-C4-lmBjPbd9R3xlnvNKJJaQ29FIjwfMs4lISmSU0
Where does it say no microtransactions? All it says is:
"The 'Diablo' backlash was focused on free-to-play and mobile, our game is a premium mobile game where you pay one price and you're done. It's a contained experience."
That *doesn't* guarantee no microtransactions. Unless they specifically say it, I'm not confirming that as no microtransactions. Because you can't give them wiggle room on that, or they push the envelope.
I mean I guess I have to say it, but they are bad for us as consumers. I hope there won't be any.
https://www.businessinsider.com/microtransactions-are-ruining-video-games-2015-4
Being f**ked over by countless games, franchises, and companies has made me very, very, very jaded. And I fully admit and own that.
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Does anyone know what Isolations production costs were and if they made their money back?
Quote from: Mister Skeezler on Jan 10, 2019, 12:03:26 AM
Quote from: Voodoo Magic on Jan 09, 2019, 11:43:20 PM
No microtransactions? And just like that, it's already not as bad as some made it out to be.
"Not as bad as some made it out to be" sounds like something to aspire to.
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You conveniently left out the word "already".
Now I'm one to believe they aspired for more, but hey, why wait to judge after we've actually tried the game, when we can just judge it now.
how many games WERE NOT GOING TO HAVE MICROTRANSACTIONS, or lootboxes or pay to win systems for them to just a month after have them added after the first impressions?
Just glanced through here. Did we ever figure out what watch means?
And aren't you glad you glanced?
The Watch has not been revealed yet.
Not sure how to feel about the response to be honest. Trying to stay optimistic. My guess is a Netflix-type series will be announced.
I am kind of split on this myself. First I'm glad there's no micro transactions in Blackout. I'm happy we got a new Alien game as well. The problem is it features Amanda Ripley. She's the protagonist of Isolation which ended on a cliffhanger.
So based on that i can see why people are upset. I can also see how it's comparable to the Blizzard fiasco.
If Blackout had a different main star then it would be great moving forward.
Actually it's ok by marketing standards to have a good mobile game out there for exposure to foxnet.. lets just be patient for the next few games hopefully some great ones come out. Imagine a game with Tristan Jones type aliens..that'd be trippy.
At this point, I could make it with just Isolation and AVP3. Isolation was the perfect Alien experience for me. AVP3 was a fun fps that handled Aliens, Predators, and the Marines. It looked better and played better than A:CM, and I got all the scary/fun moments I wanted, and then some.
An Isolation sequel would be a total dream come true. While this multiplayer aaa sounds intriguing, I pine for another pure horror survival Alien experience. Isolation felt like such an unlikely move, being set in the largely unexplored universe of the first film, 4 years on, I still feel so incredibly lucky it exists! I always played bioshock and thought, man if they did an Alien game like this...and Christ, they did! Now we're getting more marines vs aliens shoot em up stuff. Trust me I'll buy it, but I seriously hope there's a new spin on it...
I think this was a good response from them. They were honest and actually acknowledged the concerns of the fans. Good on them. Now they just need to make some good products in the franchise. :)
Quote from: Nostromo on Jan 10, 2019, 03:42:17 AM
Imagine a game with Tristan Jones type aliens..that'd be trippy.
Oh man... If you put me behind the wheel of any of these things...
(https://i.pinimg.com/originals/20/0c/63/200c63826de04e35d3e19aa9046a45b7.gif)
Because I got some f**kin' ideas.
All that aside, I'm looking forward to Blackout. I think people just need to keep expectations in check. All this hyperbolic nonsense coming out of these youtube channels is insane. And as someone that does a few days of work in a shop that sells a LOT of Alien and Predator stuff, I can promise you there are more people out there that'll check this out than are on this board.
I can also tell you that Fox are pretty on the ball when it comes to the fans, but they also know that the fanbase extends beyond the internet hangouts... It's a balance. At the end of the day, not everyone is gonna be happy, and the countless bits of pieces of media released -- from the films to the games to the books to the comics all point to that.
Quote from: tyrannosaurusjones on Jan 10, 2019, 04:34:29 AM
Quote from: Nostromo on Jan 10, 2019, 03:42:17 AM
Imagine a game with Tristan Jones type aliens..that'd be trippy.
Oh man... If you put me behind the wheel of any of these things...
SOLD. I'm there. ;D
Just, please...no skull.
I'm yet to actually watch the movie and SEE the skull yet, so as far as I'm concerned it's not a thing.
It's very faintly visible in some shots in the shuttle at the end on BluRay. If you're looking for it and don't blink.
Quote from: tyrannosaurusjones on Jan 10, 2019, 06:31:38 AM
I'm yet to actually watch the movie and SEE the skull yet, so as far as I'm concerned it's not a thing.
I saw definite signs of skullage on the first alien corpse encountered aboard the LV-44-40 station. However, the other aliens in Defiance appeared to be entirely skull-free even though one or two of them appeared to have the smooth carapace of the original. Were they supposed to be young adults while the so-called "ridge tops" were their fully-matured siblings?
Quote from: Mister Skeezler on Jan 10, 2019, 12:03:26 AM
Quote from: Voodoo Magic on Jan 09, 2019, 11:43:20 PM
No microtransactions? And just like that, it's already not as bad as some made it out to be.
"Not as bad as some made it out to be" sounds like something to aspire to.
Sent from my Pixel using Tapatalk
a $5 game you can beat in literal minutes doesn't have room for microtransactions, there's nothing to buy for Facehugger at Freddy's/Five Nights on Nostromo.
Context is king.
QuoteI can also tell you that Fox are pretty on the ball when it comes to the fans,
This magical universe where Bernie Sanders was elected and got Universal basic income and Unified healthcare exists sounds dreamy. I suppose Elon Musk invented unicorns there too.
Quote from: SM on Jan 10, 2019, 03:00:07 AM
And aren't you glad you glanced?
The Watch has not been revealed yet.
4K transfers and cinematic run before consumer home use have in fact been revealed.
Would you pay $5 for a console or PC port?
I wouldn't take $5 for a pc or console port.
Quote from: Xhan on Jan 10, 2019, 07:45:52 AM
4K transfers and cinematic run before consumer home use have in fact been revealed.
Those aren't the "Watch" component.
4K Blu-ray release.
Cinema re-run.
Memory.
Three watchable things that aren't the WATCH thing.
I guess people must be really confused because
there's no Amanda Ripley in any of these things.
No room for a Cold Iron Studio's game Art + Title
to mitigate the PR disaster of Alien Blackout at all!
No.
The ultimate point is announcements of new material
can be made, and no one is confused; so hell, show
the damn Cold Iron Studio's game before you start
the Amanda Ripley campaign.
Memory was announced long before Read.Play.Watch. It was obviously never part of some Amanda Ripley plan, whereas the Cold Iron game was a complete mystery.
Alien hits theaters every few years lately and a 40th anniversary release was to be expected.
But hey, this may well prove my point, not yours. I strongly doubt people are going to give a damn about Memory or Alien 4K when the Watch reveal is made; they're going to judge the Watch reveal based on their expectations and on what it's announced to be. If it turns out to be a 30 second stop motion parody like The Predator's christmas joke, I seriously doubt the response will be "Oh well, all that hype for nothing -- at least I get to watch Alien in cinemas again."
And please stop willfully misinterpreting what I wrote about the confusion. That was specifically to the idea of announcing the Cold Iron game as part of or alongside the Read.Play.Watch initiative, neither of which has happened with these film releases.
Getting saucy in here. :D
Quote from: The Old One on Jan 09, 2019, 10:01:58 AM
I think the initial mistake is centring the marketing campaign,
around a character known from a Triple AAA videogame.
With READ.PLAY.WATCH being a major element-
people are then going to expect a Triple AAA videogame.
Not Alien Blackout. (Mobile Phone Game)
I don't think people are so dumb-
that announcing a few details about Cold Iron Studio's Game
before, during or afterwards would confuse anyone as far as
I'm concerned- they had an obvious way to mitigate the A.I/I
Diablo negative reaction, but they didn't elect to go that route.
Quote from: Xhan on Jan 10, 2019, 07:45:52 AM
QuoteI can also tell you that Fox are pretty on the ball when it comes to the fans,
This magical universe where Bernie Sanders was elected and got Universal basic income and Unified healthcare exists sounds dreamy. I suppose Elon Musk invented unicorns there too.
I like how you left the rest out just so you could stay bitter.
Quote from: Local Trouble on Jan 10, 2019, 07:35:53 AM
I saw definite signs of skullage on the first alien corpse encountered aboard the LV-44-40 station. However, the other aliens in Defiance appeared to be entirely skull-free even though one or two of them appeared to have the smooth carapace of the original. Were they supposed to be young adults while the so-called "ridge tops" were their fully-matured siblings?
That wasn't intended, but I know what you saw, because I see it too. It's the unintended side-effect of the shape of the front of that head being shattered.
As for castes, I'm not really one for how those particular ones evolved. There's a definite continuity to how those ones worked, and the praetorian in #2 played into that, but I've got a very distinctly clear idea of how the biology works and it wasn't something I could put to full use in Defiance. Not to say I don't love what I drew in there, but if you gave me a series to myself, I'll give you a clear vision of how I see the biology working in regards to the caste system.
At the end of the day, changes were made to the look of the Xenos in Defiance. I started off using the ridgetops as mindless drones in need of a hive mind creature (queen, praetorian), and that brain bug was the Big Chap, but I had to change it, and with that I started to tweak things into a design I could use over and over again that was a compromise between the two. I kind of ended up taking the Big Chap's dome off and smoothed out the skull. to be more in line with the dome on the runner/big chap. It's a mix of all three.
Quote from: SiL on Jan 10, 2019, 06:33:37 AM
It's very faintly visible in some shots in the shuttle at the end on BluRay. If you're looking for it and don't blink.
I must be blinking every... time...! ;D
Quote from: The Old One on Jan 10, 2019, 10:03:14 AM
I don't think people are so dumb-
that announcing a few details about Cold Iron Studio's Game
before, during or afterwards would confuse anyone as far as
I'm concerned- they had an obvious way to mitigate the A.I/I
Diablo negative reaction, but they didn't elect to go that route.
Holy crap, can you let go of the confusion line? I can't even find the post but from memory it was addressing a
marketing consideration, not that the audience is idiots.
Even so, it was the
least of the points I made.
The fundamental issue here -- which I reiterated above, which you
still ignored to cling to that only point -- is that people were waiting specifically for an Isolation-related "play" release, and their disappointment is in the reality of that offering. Cold Iron's game is unrelated; they would have realised this, gone back to waiting for the
actual Play announcement, and still been disappointed.
And now we get to see if that bares out with the Watch announcement.
(Although, as for people getting confused, Xhan did think that the Alien 4K was the Watch announcement -- so maybe people are that easily confused on the matter? ;D)
Quote from: SiL on Jan 10, 2019, 10:11:26 AM
Quote from: The Old One on Jan 10, 2019, 10:03:14 AM
I don't think people are so dumb-
that announcing a few details about Cold Iron Studio's Game
before, during or afterwards would confuse anyone as far as
I'm concerned- they had an obvious way to mitigate the A.I/I
Diablo negative reaction, but they didn't elect to go that route.
The fundamental issue here -- which I reiterated above, which you still ignored to cling to that only point -- is that people were waiting specifically for an Isolation-related "play" release, and their disappointment is in the reality of that offering. Cold Iron's game is unrelated; they would have realised this, gone back to waiting for the actual Play announcement, and still been disappointed.
I'm not going to even fight you on the marketing thing, because
y'know marketing is based on a perception of how people think.
I never once argued anything else,
only that they should've done that
regardless.
As it would've mitigated reactions.
Quote4K transfers and cinematic run before consumer home use have in fact been revealed.
Those aren't the Watch bit.
Quote from: SiL on Jan 10, 2019, 09:11:03 AM
Quote from: Xhan on Jan 10, 2019, 07:45:52 AM
4K transfers and cinematic run before consumer home use have in fact been revealed.
Those aren't the "Watch" component.
Quote from: SM on Jan 10, 2019, 10:28:50 AM
Quote4K transfers and cinematic run before consumer home use have in fact been revealed.
Those aren't the Watch bit.
They are for me.
As my interest in any OC donut steel deviantart tier adventure starring Give US Money for Canon Insert Character is -1.
If any part of this 'confusion' is confusing, you can refer to my posts in the original IsolAlien thread on the "plot" COUGH of said game.
Quote from: The Old One on Jan 10, 2019, 10:22:58 AM
I'm not going to even fight you on the marketing thing, because
y'know marketing is based on a perception of how people think.
And yet you've been dragging it up every chance ... ? ???
QuoteI never once argued anything else,
only that they should've done that
regardless.
As it would've mitigated reactions.
And then never actually explained how, just asserting that it would have. Could you please explain how people expecting an Isolation sequel would be less shitty with a mobile offering if they heard about an entirely unrelated project first? You assert it's the case, but your reasoning seems to be "Because it didn't work when people didn't do that."
Also take into account that people are already starting to react poorly to Cold Iron's game for being an MMO.
Quote from: SM on Jan 10, 2019, 10:28:50 AM
Those aren't the Watch bit.
Beat you to it. ;D
Quote from: SiL on Jan 10, 2019, 09:11:03 AM
Quote from: Xhan on Jan 10, 2019, 07:45:52 AM
4K transfers and cinematic run before consumer home use have in fact been revealed.
Those aren't the "Watch" component.
Quote from: Xhan on Jan 10, 2019, 10:33:07 AM
They are for me.
That's not how this works. That's not how any of this works.
C'mon SIL- the answer is obvious.
Just look on Twitter for the amount of;
"At least we still have Cold Iron's Game."
The amount of that would be much more-
if there was an announcement making the
general public more aware, and therefore
less vitriol/attention directed towards AB.
Quote from: The Old One on Jan 10, 2019, 10:41:05 AM
Just look on Twitter for the amount of; "At least we still have Cold Iron's Game."
Have those people heard it's an MMO?
QuoteThe amount of that would be much more- if there was an announcement making the general public more aware, and therefore less vitriol/attention directed towards AB.
They announced news about the Cold Iron game the day of/after. It went unnoticed. I sincerely believe if they'd announced it before, it would've been quickly overshadowed by the same vitriole.
I think what it comes down to is you seem to think people on the Internet can react reasonably to news that doesn't suit them (which the YouTube videos getting posted seem exclusively designed to disprove) whereas I'm taking a much more pessimistic view (see previous).
Quote from: SiL on Jan 10, 2019, 10:35:47 AM
They are for me.
That's not how this works. That's not how any of this works.
Actually ironically enough for my particular argumentation style particularly on this forum, that's exactly how this works, what with opinions not needing facts or evidence to be had, credibility notwithstanding or sitting or out the goddamn airlock, and I daresay based on Isolation's sales and more damning after sales, I'm not the only one.
One of legit objective hits on Isolation was how utterly derivative it was. (Yes I am aware of how much money and more importantly energy and love and blood and spit and ass they spent making it
perfectly derivative except where it counted, like making the alien almost 11 feet instead of eight, which actually affected gameplay because the Alien could actually spot you in any non-overhead cover way way easier because of it after a few intelligence tree unlocks, and there was no compensation from level design which what we in the game design biz call by the highly technical phrase 'artificial difficulty bullshit', kinda like the stun in Monster Hunter World, unless you dialed down the difficulty, and thus reduced an immersive experience to a game you could game rather easily)
This is not only more of the same, but more of the same delivered via thumb into retina, and the ironic thing is instead of biting off a franchise that already ran its course of meme saturation into a dead husk about a year ago, they could have piggybacked the sales of the Cold Iron game into a legit sequel, a sequel apparently a great many of the initial players wanted a great deal, and with assets already in place and still current gen worthy, could have possibly even got it done before the property handover to the House of Mouse, or even brokered a deal to keep the dirty filthy violent bad word saying franchise alive in the House of Mouse by relegating it to the current offerings based on the financial success of the former game and then this properly fostered sequel to a critical darling.
But nah, let's just tap stuff on a phone for literally a couple minutes and hope the RNGAlien decides to use the same air vent he used last time, and hope that despite being utterly insulated from the fanbase this will somehow translate not only into big bucks now, but enough big bucks to elicit those uncanny scary plastic stepford smiles from the new owners.
That was lovely and all but it doesn't actually change the fact that the Alien 4K announcement isn't the Watch part of the plan.
I wanna hear your reaction on a podcast. I bet it sounds like a compilation of F-bombs from Alien 3.
in touch with their fan base's expectations?
Obviously not, unless the negative responses from fans on social media outlets are what they were aiming for?
Quote from: Local Trouble on Jan 10, 2019, 04:30:58 PM
I wanna hear your reaction on a podcast. I bet it sounds like a compilation of F-bombs from Alien 3.
When the Watch announcement drops.
Quote from: Corporal Hicks on Jan 10, 2019, 05:35:45 PM
Quote from: Local Trouble on Jan 10, 2019, 04:30:58 PM
I wanna hear your reaction on a podcast. I bet it sounds like a compilation of F-bombs from Alien 3.
When the Watch announcement drops.
Jesus this must be good.
I have one question;
is the fanbase going to be split?
I just mean so I can do it all in one episode. lol
From what I know I'm looking forward to it. Whether it's as cool as what I currently know about it, we'll see!
Quote from: tyrannosaurusjones on Jan 10, 2019, 10:05:38 AMAs for castes, I'm not really one for how those particular ones evolved. There's a definite continuity to how those ones worked, and the praetorian in #2 played into that, but I've got a very distinctly clear idea of how the biology works and it wasn't something I could put to full use in Defiance. Not to say I don't love what I drew in there, but if you gave me a series to myself, I'll give you a clear vision of how I see the biology working in regards to the caste system.
I always figured the "aging theory" was the most prevalent (e.g. that the alien soldiers shed the smooth carapace over time). I think that's how Cameron explained it when pressed on why Stan Winston's aliens didn't have them.
Do you have any ideas regarding the function of the back tubes and why the runner didn't have any?
Quote from: Corporal Hicks on Jan 10, 2019, 05:47:03 PM
I just mean so I can do it all in one episode. lol
From what I know I'm looking forward to it. Whether it's as cool as what I currently know about it, we'll see!
Is there a broad announcement timeline? Soon? A week? A month?
I'm glad we got a response. No microtransactions are a good thing. Now I might even pick this up. Maybe.
Of course Isolation 2 isn't happening, would be supersized if it was. It has a cult status and it's fanbase is growing slowly, but it cost a lot to make as far as I know. CA put in so much work and detail in the world that it was more expensive than one would expect. The amount of sales needed to make a great profit that's unreasonable expected of them was never in the cards.
Quote from: SiL on Jan 10, 2019, 11:12:38 AM
That was lovely and all but it doesn't actually change the fact that the Alien 4K announcement isn't the Watch part of the plan.
Again, it is for me.
#read as Fox and hapless Developer completely fumble the ball in front a 350 pound lineman n their own five yard line, twice
#play another game, also probably not #play The Division, Weyland Yutani MT$ Edition
#watch 4K alien and forget that any of this #OC Deviantart donut steel misfire is still attempting to be a thing as the mouse ears loom ever closer in the background
Did you post a review for Alien Isolation? This I gotta see. :laugh:
Quote from: Xhan on Jan 10, 2019, 10:35:55 PM
#read as Fox and hapless Developer completely fumble the ball in front a 350 pound lineman n their own five yard line, twice
#play another game, also probably not #play The Division, Weyland Yutani MT$ Edition
#watch 4K alien and forget that any of this #OC Deviantart donut steel misfire is still attempting to be a thing as the mouse ears loom ever closer in the background
I'm not always the best at reading people, but I think he is saying here he's really looking forward to Alien: Blackout!
Quote from: Xhan on Jan 10, 2019, 10:35:55 PM
Again, it is for me.
Still not how this works.
Micro transactions weren't the problem for me. The problem for me is that companies are all moving to the mobile platform all of a suddenly, regardless if this was a plan from disney or something else, phone games aren't supposed to be anything more than a mindless distraction when there isn't anything else to pay attention to. Some people even call them toilet games, because they play them on the toilet. It's why it should never actually have a story, and why I absolutely hate modern mobile games, for trying to be something they're clearly not. It's something I feared the instant I saw games like clash of clans grab everyone's attention, and people are so suckered in that they put everything they can money wise into it, giving corporations an even bigger reason to keep doing crap like this. It sucks that I feel I'm in the minority here, but I guess that's just how it is.
It's not "moving to the mobile platform all of a suddenly". There have been mobile Aliens games going back to Alien for the Gameboy and Aliens Unleashed for mobile phones 16 years ago. They haven't stopped making PC and console games in that time and aren't going to now.
I was just thinking about the gameboy lol.
I used to play AvP and Alien3 on the gameboy when i was a kid. Man those games were so bad but I played them relentlessly. (Still have them ;D)
Kids today have no idea what a bad game is until they've played one of these things:
(https://i.ytimg.com/vi/kT98iEETJ0w/hqdefault.jpg)
Those things were aweful and everywhere, they were so popular that they stopped making all other games forever. :laugh:
I was unfamiliar with the Gameboy version of Alien 3 until recently. I just assumed it was a side scrolling platformer like the console versions. Instead it a top down thing - where Ripley hooks up Bishop to the EEV at the end and flies off!
It was such a strange game, it was too difficult for me to beat as a kid though, same with AvP.
Quote from: 426Buddy on Jan 11, 2019, 12:44:36 AM
I was just thinking about the gameboy lol.
I used to play AvP and Alien3 on the gameboy when i was a kid. Man those games were so bad but I played them relentlessly. (Still have them ;D)
Kids today have no idea what a bad game is until they've played one of these things:
https://i.ytimg.com/vi/kT98iEETJ0w/hqdefault.jpg
Those things were aweful and everywhere, they were so popular that they stopped making all other games forever. :laugh:
Oh man, I remember those. I had the XMEN one.
Does Aliens Infestation count as a mobile game?
You didn't have to plug it into the telly so why not.
I miss playing games like that on my telly. The SNES Alien 3 is an old favorite of mine.
Man, Aliens Unleashed was more enjoyable than it had any right to be. It's one of the reasons I'm OK with Blackout.
That and the fact it looks like a modern version of the original Alien C64/ZX Spectrum/Literally everything else from the early 80s.
I'm okay with Blackout being a mobile game, I've played quite a few really polished, really fun mobile games in my day. AvP: Evolution is still a hoot, the Dead Space mobile game was fantastic, I still can't stop playing Freeblade, Lara Croft: Temple Run is a blast, Plague Inc is excellent, Pocket Trains is addictive as hell, the list goes on.
I just wish there was a console port so I could play on my telly. I generally can't be arsed to play games when visiting the loo or riding in a lorry.
Quote from: SiL on Jan 11, 2019, 05:25:15 AM
Man, Aliens Unleashed was more enjoyable than it had any right to be. It's one of the reasons I'm OK with Blackout.
That and the fact it looks like a modern version of the original Alien C64/ZX Spectrum/Literally everything else from the early 80s.
I never got to play Unleashed. I didn't have a phone that could do it back then! I think that was actually the first incarnaiton of Alien on a mobile mobile?
But SM is completely right. Alien (and Predator) have existed on mobile platforms for decades! This is no sudden move. And many of the mobile - I suppose we used to call them handheld - games were actually fun! I think Infestation and Evolution are genuinely great games. Hell, I used to play the shit out of Thanatos Encounter back in secondary school.
Yeah, it sucks we're not getting an Isolation 2. But I am glad I'm getting a new Alien title to carry in my pocket (as long as it's good!). I loved Evolution but it's nearly 4 years old or so. It'll be nice to have some additional variety in the Alien games I can carry around with me.
Quote from: SM on Jan 11, 2019, 01:35:36 AM
I was unfamiliar with the Gameboy version of Alien 3 until recently. I just assumed it was a side scrolling platformer like the console versions. Instead it a top down thing - where Ripley hooks up Bishop to the EEV at the end and flies off!
It's been a few years since I tried this but I couldn't figure out what the hell I was supposed to be doing with this one. :-\
I was always gutted that AvP on the GBA never materialized. I was also gutted that Alien Trilogy never got a GBA port. Since it could run Doom and Duke Nukem, I'd hoped we'd have seen a Trilogy port. I suppose licensing issues would have put that one out too.
I still don't understand what this game is supposed to be story-wise if it's not a sequel to Isolation yet involves Amanda. Is it "just a game" or is it actually supposed to fit into the canon mythos in some way?
I honestly don't get what they meant when they said it wasn't a sequel. Obviously it's a sequel in that it features Amanda Ripley and must be set after Isolation. Maybe they mean it's not a sequel in that it's not the same game-style??
Quote from: Corporal Hicks on Jan 11, 2019, 08:27:49 AM
I never got to play Unleashed. I didn't have a phone that could do it back then! I think that was actually the first incarnaiton of Alien on a mobile mobile?
I think so. I only played it on an emulator.
Quote from: Corporal Hicks on Jan 11, 2019, 08:39:35 AM
I honestly don't get what they meant when they said it wasn't a sequel. Obviously it's a sequel in that it features Amanda Ripley and must be set after Isolation. Maybe they mean it's not a sequel in that it's not the same game-style??
I'd probably be more optimistic about it if I wasn't thinking about the ramifications of its "plot" on the lore.
Ramifications being?
The apparently recurring misadventures of Amanda Ripley. One encounter with the alien was contrived enough.
Don't want mobile game. Want propper sequel with Amanda. The end.
Quote from: Local Trouble on Jan 11, 2019, 08:51:10 AM
The apparently recurring misadventures of Amanda Ripley. One encounter with the alien was contrived enough.
I wasn't that contrived. Finding the black box was a bit contrived, but Amanda wanting to find out about her Mother's fate was a natural motive. To say otherwise is to denounce the persistence of memory.
Quote from: Hemi on Jan 11, 2019, 04:04:07 PM
Don't want mobile game. Want propper sequel with Amanda. The end.
Better get working on it then.
No one is going to invest in a sequel if they dont think they can make money on it. If Isolation was a financial success we would probably already have a sequel by now.
Quote from: Xenomrph on Jan 11, 2019, 05:49:34 AM
I'm okay with Blackout being a mobile game, I've played quite a few really polished, really fun mobile games in my day. AvP: Evolution is still a hoot, the Dead Space mobile game was fantastic, I still can't stop playing Freeblade, Lara Croft: Temple Run is a blast, Plague Inc is excellent, Pocket Trains is addictive as hell, the list goes on.
Man, Dead Space on my iPad was fantastic, real shame that EA removed that from the iOS App Store, one of those early great titles. EA only seems to put out garbage these days. Both AVP Evolution and the Predators mobile titles by Angry Mob Games were also removed.
Quote from: Local Trouble on Jan 11, 2019, 08:51:10 AM
The apparently recurring misadventures of Amanda Ripley. One encounter with the alien was contrived enough.
Eh, I was concerned about that before Isolation but the game was great enough to sell me on the idea. With these new stories though, yeah that concern is back, that her story will just become over-saturated for her to simply be a mention at the start of the second film.
Quote from: Local Trouble on Jan 11, 2019, 04:00:41 AM
Does Aliens Infestation count as a mobile game?
Mobile and
handheld don't connote the same thing in the gaming community.
What's the difference?
https://m.uk.ign.com/articles/2019/01/11/alien-blackout-hands-on-dont-panic-a-its-fun
Quote from: Local Trouble on Jan 11, 2019, 05:37:24 PM
What's the difference?
They're both portable gaming, but a 'handheld' platform connotes a dedicated gaming console which is handheld and portable. A 'mobile' platform is derived from mobile phone, which is not primarily a dedicated gaming console.
Also something to be said about the price-point difference. Aliens: Thanatos Encounter was $30.00 in 2001 (right?). Blackout is $5.
This article makes sense to me:
https://www.whistleout.com/CellPhones/Guides/Mobile-Games-vs-Portable-Consoles (https://www.whistleout.com/CellPhones/Guides/Mobile-Games-vs-Portable-Consoles)
Quote from: Corporal Hicks on Jan 11, 2019, 05:40:11 PM
https://m.uk.ign.com/articles/2019/01/11/alien-blackout-hands-on-dont-panic-a-its-fun
Same source which proclaimed that Isolation sucked. *shrugs*
Yeah, that gave me a good chuckle.
Quote from: 426Buddy on Jan 11, 2019, 04:57:12 PM
Quote from: Hemi on Jan 11, 2019, 04:04:07 PM
Don't want mobile game. Want propper sequel with Amanda. The end.
Better get working on it then.
No one is going to invest in a sequel if they dont think they can make money on it. If Isolation was a financial success we would probably already have a sequel by now.
I feel like I'm in a time loop.
Isolation was a success,
Sega were unrealistic about the measure of it's success.
Especially considering that incredibly shit IGN review.
ACM's reception the previous year, Isolation's expense
(Triple AAA) and niche genre.
Quote from: Perfect-Organism on Jan 11, 2019, 04:23:40 PM
Quote from: Local Trouble on Jan 11, 2019, 08:51:10 AM
The apparently recurring misadventures of Amanda Ripley. One encounter with the alien was contrived enough.
I wasn't that contrived. Finding the black box was a bit contrived, but Amanda wanting to find out about her Mother's fate was a natural motive. To say otherwise is to denounce the persistence of memory.
Alien's about blue collar working Joes,
most of which- if their mother disappeared
in the vast expanse of space would grieve
and then move on. Guess we're lucky that
Amanda Ripley's the Hollywood
perseverance archetype.
It was contrived, but it was done well-
for it to happen repeatedly makes it more
absurd each time- Amanda knowing Zula
BEFORE either of their encounters makes
the universe very small indeed.
But I'm willing to give it a chance depending
upon how they handle Isolation's ending,
perhaps they pick up the Torrens and Ripley
is forced to watch and scream helplessly
as she begs them to not open the airlock.
(A rescue USCM ship perhaps) we'll see.
Quote from: The Old One on Jan 11, 2019, 10:45:01 PMIt was contrived, but it was done well-known
for it to happen repeatedly makes it more
absurd each time- Amanda knowing Zula
BEFORE either of their encounters makes
the universe very small indeed.
Yeah, I just finished Defiance and thought the same thing. I don't get the obsession with Ripley's family, aside from the specific character of
Ellen Ripley.
The whole relationship between Zula and Amanda is off the charts contrived. I will admit that.
Quote from: Local Trouble on Jan 11, 2019, 10:49:46 PM
Quote from: The Old One on Jan 11, 2019, 10:45:01 PMIt was contrived, but it was done well-known
for it to happen repeatedly makes it more
absurd each time- Amanda knowing Zula
BEFORE either of their encounters makes
the universe very small indeed.
Yeah, I just finished Defiance and thought the same thing. I don't get the obsession with Ripley's family, aside from the specific character of Ellen Ripley.
Connor/Terminator
McFly and Tannen/Back to the Future
O'Connell/The Mummy
McClane/Die Hard
People can associate certain names with certain franchises. I'd rather they didn't. It makes no sense for the same characters to go up against the same dangerous situations over and over again. But, the studios will use the name to draw attention. It's a poor idea, and adds a factor of ridiculousness to the situation. But it's not about narrative, it's about money.
... to be fair, without McClane Die Hard would just be a series of unrelated action movies.
Quote from: SiL on Jan 12, 2019, 01:49:29 AM
... to be fair, without McClane Die Hard would just be a series of unrelated action movies.
Yes, that's true. However, to have the same supposedly (regular guy) find himself in the same mess again and again is pushing the envelope way too far. Ripley 8 was pushing it way too far. Predator 2 and Predators handled themselves just fine without Dutch. I prefer a franchise "constant" be the event, not a character. But that's merely a personal preference.
Quote from: Huggs on Jan 12, 2019, 02:07:29 AM
Predator 2 and Predators handled themselves just fine without Dutch. I prefer a franchise "constant" be the event, not a character. But that's merely a personal preference.
My Man!(https://i.imgur.com/boyRiZp.gif)
Quote from: Voodoo Magic on Jan 12, 2019, 02:34:25 AM
Quote from: Huggs on Jan 12, 2019, 02:07:29 AM
Predator 2 and Predators handled themselves just fine without Dutch. I prefer a franchise "constant" be the event, not a character. But that's merely a personal preference.
My Man!
https://i.imgur.com/boyRiZp.gif
Did this just happen?
Quote from: TheSailingRabbit on Jan 12, 2019, 02:39:12 AM
Quote from: Voodoo Magic on Jan 12, 2019, 02:34:25 AM
Quote from: Huggs on Jan 12, 2019, 02:07:29 AM
Predator 2 and Predators handled themselves just fine without Dutch. I prefer a franchise "constant" be the event, not a character. But that's merely a personal preference.
My Man!
https://i.imgur.com/boyRiZp.gif
Did this just happen?
You bet it did!
(https://i.gifer.com/Qsuy.gif)
Quote from: Voodoo Magic on Jan 12, 2019, 02:43:49 AM
Quote from: TheSailingRabbit on Jan 12, 2019, 02:39:12 AM
Quote from: Voodoo Magic on Jan 12, 2019, 02:34:25 AM
Quote from: Huggs on Jan 12, 2019, 02:07:29 AM
Predator 2 and Predators handled themselves just fine without Dutch. I prefer a franchise "constant" be the event, not a character. But that's merely a personal preference.
My Man!
https://i.imgur.com/boyRiZp.gif
Did this just happen?
You bet it did!
https://i.gifer.com/Qsuy.gif
I like Predator 2. For the longest time P1 and P2 was all there was. I loved it and Aliens most when I was a kid, because they were the most action heavy. My tastes might have changed somewhat, but the old feelings are still there.
P2 is like the cousin you grew up with but drifted apart from over time. You might not see them much anymore and now have important relationships with other people, but that doesn't mean family ain't still family.
Quote from: Huggs on Jan 12, 2019, 02:07:29 AM
Predator 2 and Predators handled themselves just fine without Dutch. I prefer a franchise "constant" be the event, not a character. But that's merely a personal preference.
Right, but in Die Hard McClane
is that constant :P
I agree on the other franchises, but that's the odd one out.
Quote from: SiL on Jan 12, 2019, 03:24:06 AM
Quote from: Huggs on Jan 12, 2019, 02:07:29 AM
Predator 2 and Predators handled themselves just fine without Dutch. I prefer a franchise "constant" be the event, not a character. But that's merely a personal preference.
Right, but in Die Hard McClane is that constant :P
I agree on the other franchises, but that's the odd one out.
The constant plots he's running into and foiling aren't?
...no? Besides one and three there's no real connection between any of those plots other than McClane. Like I said, it'd just be a series of unconnected action movies.
Individual Predators may die, but the running theme is intergalactic space hunters. "International thiefs-cum-terrorists" doesn't really have the same specificity to it.
Quote from: SiL on Jan 12, 2019, 04:23:19 AM
cum-terrorists
Of all things to weaponize, it would have to be that.
Quote from: The Old One on Jan 11, 2019, 10:45:01 PM
Quote from: 426Buddy on Jan 11, 2019, 04:57:12 PM
Quote from: Hemi on Jan 11, 2019, 04:04:07 PM
Don't want mobile game. Want propper sequel with Amanda. The end.
Better get working on it then.
No one is going to invest in a sequel if they dont think they can make money on it. If Isolation was a financial success we would probably already have a sequel by now.
I feel like I'm in a time loop.
Isolation was a success,
Sega were unrealistic about the measure of it's success.
Especially considering that incredibly shit IGN review.
ACM's reception the previous year, Isolation's expense
(Triple AAA) and niche genre.
Companies care about the bottom line, if Isolation had made money they would have made more. Obviously it didn't.
Like I said, no one is going to spend a ton of money on a game if they dont think they are going to make money back.
Didnt Creative Assembly even say the sales were disappointing?
I don't recall.
Then make a double AA game instead.
Too bad EA killed Visceral. I'd love to see what they could do with the Alien franchise.
Man Dead Space was good. Coming from a person that rarely plays video games. I went out and bought a 360 and Dead Space just to play that game when it came out. Playing made me wish there was an Aliens game of similar vein. I too would've loved to have seen someone like Visceral do something with the franchise.
Quote from: Local Trouble on Jan 12, 2019, 11:04:21 PM
Too bad EA killed Visceral. I'd love to see what they could do with the Alien franchise.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BQ3iqq49Ew8
Yes! Watched the Dead Space movie on Halloween night 2008 and played the game right after, great experience, loved the 2 animated movies also.
Quote from: SM on Jan 11, 2019, 12:39:20 AM
It's not "moving to the mobile platform all of a suddenly". There have been mobile Aliens games going back to Alien for the Gameboy and Aliens Unleashed for mobile phones 16 years ago. They haven't stopped making PC and console games in that time and aren't going to now.
You're talking handheld which is far different, Handheld is a portable game console. Mobile is games on the phone. Which is confusing for most and honestly even I had to get used to it.
Games on mobiles have been around nearly 15 years, probably longer.
Like Tetris on my flip phone?
I loved Dead Space 1 & 2, but I never really liked the overly loud and hyperactive Necromorphs. It became annoying at times and would even give you some eye roll moments as they crashed obnoxiously out of a vent or some such. I'm more of a fan of the slower/creepier and more menacing kind of monsters.
Quote from: Nostromo on Jan 13, 2019, 10:43:47 AM
Quote from: Local Trouble on Jan 12, 2019, 11:04:21 PM
Too bad EA killed Visceral. I'd love to see what they could do with the Alien franchise.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BQ3iqq49Ew8
Yes! Watched the Dead Space movie on Halloween night 2008 and played the game right after, great experience, loved the 2 animated movies also.
Wait, dead space movie? Aside from the animated ones? Am I missing something here? Since when has that existed?
The animated movie is the only one.
Quote from: Local Trouble on Jan 14, 2019, 07:13:38 PM
The animated movie is the only one.
2 Animated Movies :). Check them out, should be right up your alley.
The second one sucks tho. IMO-
First's pretty gud.
And there is this: https://www.imdb.com/title/tt7829914/
Couldn't find much info about it. Don't know if its legit.
Look at the Director's page. lol
I imagined it could be a fanmade movie of course, but normally those would have more info. And those involved don't take long to inform the fans for support.
Huh.
I wonder if perhaps this takes place concurrently with Isolation somehow.
It's a different station. That just seems to be the aesthetic of deep space stations at the minute. A lot of them in Defiance followed that kind of appearance.
Then when and where does it take place that makes it unable to be a sequel to Isolation?
It is a sequel to Isolation. It's just not Isolation 2.
I like the design of that station.
Quote from: Corporal Hicks on Jan 22, 2019, 10:04:12 AM
It is a sequel to Isolation. It's just not Isolation 2.
Oh ok so no like comic book or novel tie ins that take place before this? I'm guessing this game was released to sort of herald in those?
Didn't Fox claim it "just borrows the character of Amanda"?
That quote worried me that the game has no story and doesn't fit anywhere in any continuity. Like it's just a mini game where Amanda saves a crew and that's it.
The quote was:
"We wanted to reach out to clarify that Alien: Blackout is a standalone game that shares Amanda Ripley as a main character but is not related to or a sequel of Isolation."
So we're getting the Read and Play part before Watch has even been announced? Why the long wait for the Watch part? Weird marketing decision.
After seeing some reviews of the game, I'll probably give it a go.
I brought this this morning but am unable to play until after work. :'(