Time for one of my analytical posts, I think. A question a lot of people have been wondering is where do the aliens come from in AvP2? That’s still speculation, but we’ve spoken to a couple of crew members and we can reveal that there will be a hive, most likely in the sewers – hence why the Predator was down there in the ADI Book picture. This could also explain why the aliens in AvP2 have ridged heads – like in Aliens – due to them being in a hive setting.
Well, that was most likely to do with the fact they were hibernating too and were a lot older so I don’t think AvP2′s story will be able to get around that. Okay, a hive isn’t big news but wouldn’t the presence of a hive indicate that a Queen would have to be in AvP2? So the question becomes where does the Queen come from? Read on for my full article…
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Well, I agree with you, this is probably the most realistic direction for the movie to take.
That means there now has to be a Queen. One thing that bugs me though is that why the would keep her a secret, she hasnt even been mentioned once... :-\
Actually, she has. In our interview with Morris Chapdelaine. He said he didn't get to work on the Queen but he never said it wasn't in AvP2 either.
Just a thought, the hive's "hallways" in Aliens, look like the shape of the Queens egg sack, so mabye its just the Aliens instinct to make a hive like that even thought there isnt a Queen... :-\
Alien Queen come back fight with the humans and predators. ;D ;D
Damn.. this is good news to me about the hive cause that means some cool looking Alien environment stuff ;D
what I want to know is, there are going to be survivors but what stops them going public about the aliens and predator destroying there town? ???
Screw the haters - this movie just keeps getting more awesome by the minute. As for how the predator will battle a Queen, Predalien and all the drones is he could just use his wrist nuke again like in AVP.
Nice theory. I'm glad there's a hive.
what I really hope is that there are going to be more new aliens besides the pred to make the movie more exciteing. seeing as how their is going to be a hive . as for the haters screw them.
Best news all day Grid Alien
Maybe there will be a fight scene between the predator and the queen. ::)
I'm fairly excited. I can't wait.
I really wanne see some stuff from the movie now, in the last months the news got better and better, and of course, an hive is great. By the way, i postet 2 new die hard 4 clips in general/tv discussion, they look awesome and i wanne see some stuff form avp2 now, im so exited for the teaser, cant wait.
A question, though; did anyone honestly think there wouldn't be a hive? :-\ I felt it was pretty much a given. Even though the Queen was locked up in AvP, the Aliens still built a hive in the sacrificial chamber. But, still, news is news. Now my only concern is that they introduce molting from drones to Queens *shudders*
Well, since avp2 has a very low budget it is not a given...
I actually cant believe of how much stuff were getting here if its really a very low budget, lots of aliens, big explosions, military stuff with tanks, spacecrafts and now the hive, its really great IMO.
QuoteWell, since avp2 has a very low budget it is not a given...
Low budget doesn't mean they can't have another claustrophobic set. It's not like they're reconstructing the Eiffel Tower from scratch.
Pretty interesing news, and an interesting theory as well. Should make for some pretty intense battles... Pred will probably take the queen, defeat it but be badly injured, then have to battle the Predalien, battle to a stalemate, with both heavily injured, hybrid probably doing a little bit better...self destruct? Anyhow I can\'t wait to see it!
The theory mentioned above is pretty much what I've been speculating. Although, I was wondering if the hybrid infesting the pred's ship could possibly have been a queen. I find it very hard to believe there wouldn't be any queens in AVP2 and I doubt the egg morphing ability is going to be implemented. I also speculated that some preds might survive the alien conflict as well as the crash, but are eliminated shortly after by the remaining infestation leaving only one sorely pissed and vengeful predator to escape... only to come back and kick some ass. lol And of course the infestation spreads and effects the humans immediately.
Firstly, AR also featured a hive. The ridged heads are far more likely to be to do with age. There could be a lot of sensitive stuff beneath that shell, in need of extra development time and only shedding the covering once that is done. Secondly, yeah, who thought there would not be a hive? :) There were signs in the first and third films that one was starting to be made and the newest edition of the first makes it clear one had been made. Queens make no difference. It's their default environment. Thirdly, why don't people 'understand' the ability to create eggs? It might be a mystery how the process happens, but the vast majority who saw that scene appear to realise what's going on. Giving them that ability would be the best thing the team could do. It would mean that even one of them is a lethal threat and has to be dealt with. :)
I always thought that the ridges came with age..... also if there is going to be a Queen facehugger I would be very thrilled.
Do I have a clone ????? Mr.Weyland | 08 Jun 2007 21:1910 what I really hope is that there are going to be more new aliens besides the pred to make the movie more exciteing. seeing as how their is going to be a hive . as for the haters screw them.
A tad obvious, but at least its confirmed now. Darkness, HOW did you come about meeting your connections?
He is FOX
Well, this gives more info about the movie and gives us a idea of the movie. I can't wait. ;D
Interesting....but wrong. ;D
Colin! You sly fellow you! It has something to do with the plot I know it! Thats why they wont release the plot outline, because we have to wait to see the teaser to be shocked! Colin said there were plot twists as well.
Man I can\'t wait to see this movie...
Lol.. Colin pwned us all. :D
Is this sent in the present? ???
Yes......or....is it? Never know, they could pull a Serenity/Firefly on us. ;) ;D
I don't know...a queen? Gettin a little tired of her. Sure when you first see her in Aliens she's bad ass and scary! But now...meh. We've been their , done that. Not really exciting news for me.
SiL | 08 Jun 2007 23:09 15 A question, though; did anyone honestly think there wouldn't be a hive? undecided My thoughts too, I mean what do you think the Aliens do in the absence of a queen , play poker? Hive changes nothing IMO
I think the question is more: How in the hell can the Queen fit those tight sewer corridors...? ??? :D I wonder if the sewers will lead to someplace wider, like a Water Processing Plant or, most likely, a Waste Treatment Facility... ???
So did Colin just confirm that Darkness's Theory was wrong or the presence of a hive was wrong or one of the posts just before his post was wrong. If it was Darkness 's Theory that was wrong.... wow. That's huge.
His theory
Yes, it's D's theory he is saying is wrong. The news is fine.
Exactly, the news of there being a hive is true.
The news about the hive is true. The rest is just my theory but I also know for a fact that something else in my theory is true. It\'s probably the bit about the where the aliens come from that isn\'t true. If it isn\'t a Queen Facehugger, or egg-morphing, I\'d like to know what.
How did you come about meeting your connections Darkness?
We can't reveal all our secrets. Where's the fun in that?
No fun at all, I've got a couple connections up my sleeve as well though. ;D
Oh yeah, who you been talking to now?
I'll pm you. 8)
I look forward to it.
Well, we all will have to wait till the movie to know how they will get on Earth, then...! 6 more months to go... :o And Colin always so :-X ! Even when he answers, we don't know what he is answering about! ;D ;)
Always so vague, I know.
Sorry, we will have to wait to know how they will get on THE SHIP...sorry... ::) and double ::) for me...!
The premiere of the trailer is going to make me nervous. Will this basically be a sequel to Feast, or will it blow us the hell away?
I guess his 'vagueness' is a small price to pay for his help in taming our overeagerness to go and see the movie already so far still from the premiere...! I understand how much is at stake here, for us and for Fox, so I cut him some slack...! And it seems he took us fans into consideration while filming it, so for that alone, I thank him and hope he makes a FANTASTIC debut as a movie director with AVP2...! Like I said, if he can make a good lemonade out of the bitter lemons he had to deal with, then I am confident we will enjoy this movie... He knows us, fans, he knows what we like about the creatures, what we disliked about AVP, it is only a matter of pulling together a story that explores their full potential... If they do that, we will be looking back at his :-X posture and say 'he did good to keep us excited and longing to see this movie'...! ;)
What if queen from AVP survived and later find frozen by humans - humans decided to transport it to some secret place for analising - but things go bad and transporter crash near some mid-west town. than she hide herself into the sewers and start reproducing aliens. Sewers seems fine because she was already in water for most time... but then it comes predalien....
No! Nice storyline, there will be a queen so da aliens will look awesum! Btw i jus want da pred to win in d end, like an explosion in da sewers n then suddenly, da pred walks out wit an alien queen's skull!!! dat would be so cool although i like aliens beter. i ALWAYS WANT DIS TO HAPPEN BUT WILL IT???!!!
So, I guess the Queen is also confirmed. Why build an alien hive without a Queen?
I always laugh when people claim to have "inside" connections at a movie studio..... I bet all of you guys who "claim to have connections" use Google.com :P :D ---> >:(
They built hives in 'Alien' and 'Alien 3'. No Queen there. They just like it. :)
"What if queen from AVP survived and later find frozen by humans" Lets hope that will never happen. ???
Im strting to think that this dos not start where AvP finished off....This could be its own movie.
i hope the queen was like the aliens queen and avp queen combined because the aliens queen was very intelligent unlike the avp queen and A4 queen but the avp queen was a physical queen that just goes and runs over people and bites, claws, and whips them but it'd be better if it was smart and physical and im just comparing but dont make a fuss about it like on imbd but it's like u combine superman and batman, jp t rex and jp raptor, monkey and gorilla.
Predalien kills queen after hive is created. Predalien is a cross between both species, therefore has no allies. Its a rightous hunter and a straight killer.
eliminate the biggest GAME..... the queen!!!!
Adverish....ITS AN ALIEN. It would be on the alien's side.
It isn't a cross. It's just another Alien. It happens to use a different genetic template for a personal body design, but that's all. 'Alien 3' showed that Aliens form different hosts would not care about it. That version came from a canine, yet wa protecting what was growing inside Ripley.
All the Queens were intelligent. It would have scraped and bitten at Newt if it had been able to. The part where it was tearing down the structure Lex was hiding under, seemed to be very like the behaviour exhibited when the other one was taking out metal plates to find Newt, in the future.
Pvt. Hicks... Your probably right but what about the alien the Queen gave birth to in Alien 4? The first thing it did was kill the queen. I'm just sayin this Predalien might turn out to have its own agenda.
Ok... Stay with me guys. I dunno if this has already been brought up but here goes. Since the first time I saw aliens, and then sat through preadator 2, I practically leapt out of my seat when I saw the alien head in the trophy case on the pred's ship. I have waited for the cross over since that first image, and I loved avp. Had a few friends that said it was ok but I completly understood and revelled in the tying of the two franchises togeather. But to me.. This AVP2 seems to be lacking something. On earth again huh....Sigh.Small town?... Sigh. Sounds a little weak to me. Didn't we already see this but instead of a small town it was under the ice in Antartica set in a Mayan/Cambodian/Egyptian temple? I'd like to hope I know what the fans want, and seriously don't we all want to see colonial marines, preds and aliens in a massive 3 way bout? Thoughts?
QuotePvt. Hicks... Your probably right but what about the alien the Queen gave birth to in Alien 4? The first thing it did was kill the queen. I'm just sayin this Predalien might turn out to have its own agenda.
The 'Newborn' was a genetic freak that was all kinds of messed up. The PredAlien is simply an Alien born from a Predator host. No hiden agendas, no Predator skillz, no Alien backstabbing. It's an Alien, plain and simple.
Talking abouth predalien and aliens is just like talking abouth white and black ppl - same spicies...
The reason people are mistaken it (Predalien) for something that might backstab or have it's own agenda is infact because it's called a Predalien when it is quite simply just an Alien like the one from Alien3 but simply from an alternate host rather than a human!
hmmm...I expected there to be a hive anyhow. I guess, on the plus side, it means we'll get the classic alien environment for the action to take place....
Yes, Bodysnatcher... that is why I usually call it 'Alienpred' and not 'Predalien'... It is an Alien, but with some characteristics from its host (outer mandibles, inner mouth, biped...) though, come to think of it, only the Alien3 did the Alien have a more human-like mouth, with human-like lips, according to directions from Giger himself... 'a morre errotic mouth' or something like that... Check out the photos of the Alien head and the featurette with Giger talking about his concepts for the Alien in Alien3... Also, I don't recall seeing in Alien3 a Hive or anything even remotely looking like it... Where did you see this, Xenomorphine...? ???
Also, if there are gonna be more than a dozen Aliens in AVP2, I think you can rest assured there will be a Queen...! There would have to be various facehuggers to impregnate the 'Gunnissonians' and it would be unrealistic if ALL the huggers would come from inside the Predator ship...! :o ;)
When the prisoners were moving the explosives around, at least one of them found signs of alien mucous around, just like Dallas did. It was likely that the thing had a central lair and that would have been where it was setting up home in as an extreme way as the first one had been.
"how on earth would one Predator take down all these aliens, a Predalien and a Queen by itself?" well how on earth does one predalien take out an entire ship of predators
colin must sit back and laugh at some of our comments, pulling apart every quote etc, he must crack up
OK, if you are fundamenting your assumption on the first Alien... but this was a different Alien, who preferred killing to nesting, so to speak...he killed Clemens and then carried his body away, he killed Spt. Andrews and most, if not all, of the prisoners, so why and when would he be nesting...? It would require living hosts to breed (Dallas was alive in the nest) so why kill ALL of the prisoners/potential hosts for the Queen which it knew was about to be born...? That is why I think this Alien was not a drone alien (not the abandoned white alien concept from James Cameron, but the ones without the dome) but a warrior, meaning it was there to protect the Queen, and eliminate any potential threat to it (prisoners), that is why I think he was not nesting, we sticked close to Ripley and the prisoners because it was required to do so, being the Queen's 'bodyguard'... The Superfacehugger had two embryos, one queen and one warrior, which implies that this Alien's mission was to protect the Queen at all costs, eliminationg any threat and not coccooning or nesting... At least, that is my take...
Happypred, the Predalien could very easily provoke a rupture in the ships' hull, or damage the controls in the control room, or kill the pilot... take your pick... ;)
if the alienpred survivors if the mothership does crash will there be another mother ship in which case will they then send a hunter pred to seek out the alienpred and the other aliens and what about the predators home world will they live in a nice big house wood fire place alien and human sculs hanging on the mantle piece ::)
(1) What has a hive environment got to do with breeding? There is no link. They just so happen to have breeding as one of their favourite things to do. :) The third film's creature was resting somewhere, just like the first was. It was by no means killing all of the time. As Ripley said, it was staying "close to the zebras". Every single creature has created an environment of mucous walls, including the first. Why would it be anything like an exception? (2) Dallas was turning into an egg, as proven in 'Giger's Alien'. (3) There are not any real differences between the creatures. 'Drones' and 'warriors' are only words to try and explain why some have a covering and others don't, when the explanation of age probably does just as well. :) (4) The 'superfacehugger' is not definitely a reality. We don't even have proof of where that egg came from. There could have been more than one there.
My previous comments are likely wrong, but what do you think about the predalien being a Queen Alienpred????? ;D
it wont be and in AVP watch the facehugger closely.it is yellow and it means that its a regular facehugger but if its a queen, its Paul Anderson's fault for being stupid to make a regular facehugger into a queen and I seriously doubt that the predalien will be a queen plus it would be a good/bad idea for a predalien queen but it would result as in predalien drones, runners, praetorians, and chestbursters making it too predalien. AVP would go down if that would happen plus there would be a huge cost of building one for AVP2 but it would sort of bring something new to AVP and fans might like it.And also like Xenomorphine said, "Where does the alien egg come from?" I think it'll be a regular predalien but if it were a queen, something like the queen laying a an egg at the last minute before death just like Aliens when the queen farted that last egg out=queen facehugger=Ripley impregnated=runner=happiness for the aliens.
The queen is a crossbreed. My gut's telling me so.
what does the alien predator hybrid looks like ???
hey does anyone have a clue on when exactly a preview trailer clip for avp2 is going to come out? I heard it may come out with Die Hard 4 and other preview trailers you always see before a movie starts.
How is the predator going to defeat her? ???
I want to see the queen take on the ELDER PREADATOR.
THE PREDALIEN WILL TEAM WITH THE QUEEN ,THAT IS AWESOME. 8)
Holy F**K, these directors got a lot on their plate, if they have screwed this up it's going to be a hell of a riot... :o Tool=awsome
Hmmm, alot of theories, keep dreaming Americans, unless your one of the inner onset AVP:2 circle with a copy of the much guarded shooting script, as opposed to a shi**y first/second draft, of the whole movie...well there goes 99 per cent of you here! Look I do hope in my heart the screenwriter & the two brothers get it right putting in a logical sense of events mixed up with the building up of tension & scares of cos while staying three steps ahead of todays film audiences, it used to be one-two steps. ANGLE ON: TOMS FACE, his brow sweats.. ..a drop of sweat falls like slow motion..hits the floor.. A HUGE SHADOW passes quick where the drop landed.. BACK ON TOM, CLOSE: Tom has sensed something..his eyes in sync, s-l-o-w-l-y turn right..background behind the side of his face softly pulls into focus..nine seconds pass..but nothing happens.. BUT when Tom spins around..his POV.. Just thought to put in something there in how I write scripts while still learning shitloads mates. Things are more scarier if you don't show something too early either, Ridley Scott used this technique perfectly in ALIEN, by revealing the alien in its entirety near the end, but kept the tension & scares up thru-out the whole movie. For further info or for just plain film talk, you can mail me at: kiwiscript@hotmail.com KIA KAHA! Gregg. New Zealand.
Here's what should happen, from the last movie, the baby alien grows huge in the shadows & kills a few Predators before it's eventually taken down...Meanwhile, a crew of replacement Marines(a nod for Aliens) is on its way to the Alien planet to wipe out the creatures for sure, but whilst doing so they encounter more than what they bargained for, when half a dozen Predator ships swarm on the planet, they had been lying in wait for the Marines to lead them to the Alien planet. Somethin like that..Can I write the script now?? lol
emm... i've read most of he comment here... i think there will be an hive, a queen and a predalien for sure... from wat the film-maker said "fans will be surprised for what we have put in the movie" or something like that... it sounds to me like the predalien itself is actually the queen... a queen from an predator host... so it will dissmiss the fact that the predator will fight both.... and it is the most logic idea... so they can save the money to make two creatures... i hope people will buy this idea.. hehe