Something is brewing on Instagram...

[Perfect-Organism]

Oh really?

What about when Kane let's the cat go and then goes off looking for it on his own?

Or how about those scenes in Aliens and Terminator where... well actually those films are perfect.

I don't remember the other films enough to pick out the stupid things the characters did but I'm sure they're there.

The above was a response to the Old One..

[TC]

...
The old argument that horror genre characters
have to do stupid stuff for it to qualify as a horror film or work.
...

They don't have to, but many of them did. Scary Movie did a great job parodying them and all their tropes.

...
I think the issue you're having there is that you have elevated the film to intellectual levels while letting go of the fact that is is still fundamentally rooted in the horror-flick genre.  Based on that, it adheres to certain genre tropes.  It is the same old thing about a group of teenagers in the woods, and one or two decide to go off on their own.
...

I think Scott's most fundamental error was in not deciding on the kind of film he was making: Ontological study on the nature of creation (ala 2001); or horror thriller (like Alien).

Halfway in-between we got some once-over-lightly schoolboy philosophy, mixed with 80s-style horror-slasher tropes. Together, it has the faint whiff of pretentiousness. He should have committed one way or the other, either way would have worked.

TC

[Perfect-Organism]

I felt that Scott was being tongue-in-cheek about it but you may be right...

[The Old One]

It's not just the characters though- it's the entire plot;
Why would the Engineers leave directions (supposedly)
to a system that they used as a weapons testing facility?

The melodrama between Peter Weyland, and his awful monster mash face
and Meredith Vickers is horribly written.

The Pathogen's space magic goo that can do whatever the plot requires.
Most of the dialogue is also... bad.
Like, Star Wars prequels- "people don't talk like that" bad.


Brett let the cat go, and at that point they were chasing something smaller than a Cat-
they had no way of knowing it could've grown to such ridiculous,
taller than a man proportions- in that time.

[Perfect-Organism]

It's not just the characters though- it's the entire plot;
Why would the Engineers leave directions (supposedly)
to a system that they used as a weapons testing facility?

The melodrama between Peter Weyland, and his awful monster mash face
and Meredith Vickers is horribly written.

The Pathogen's space magic goo that can do whatever the plot requires.
Most of the dialogue is also... bad.
Like, Star Wars prequels- "people don't talk like that" bad.


Brett let the cat go, and at that point they were chasing something smaller than a Cat-
they had no way of knowing it could've grown to such ridiculous,
taller than a man proportions- in that time.

Fifield and Millburn didn't know there were acid snakes alive in the pyramid.

[The Old One]

So?

It still makes it stupid for the guy, managing
"My pups" the mapping equipment to get lost.

And stupid for Millburn to interact with
a potentially dangerous unknown organism.
Especially with the context that he's in a tomb,
on another planet, surrounded by decayed corpses.

[Local Trouble]

[Huggs]

Fifield and Millburn separated themselves from the group during a situation where they had become concerned for their own wellbeing. Fifield was even willing to go alone. Not exactly the smartest of the bunch.

I think Scott's most fundamental error was in not deciding on the kind of film he was making: Ontological study on the nature of creation (ala 2001); or horror thriller (like Alien).

Halfway in-between we got some once-over-lightly schoolboy philosophy, mixed with 80s-style horror-slasher tropes. Together, it has the faint whiff of pretentiousness. He should have committed one way or the other, either way would have worked.

TC

What Scott should've done was make the movie he was really wanting to make, which was a new blade runner. If he wanted to make small links to alien that would've just enhanced the film for me. Blade Runner is where his heart was, and still is. While somebody else could've done a standalone alien movie with new characters, or perhaps Cameron could've been enticed to come back and do Gibson's Alien 3.

Regardless, we are where we are. And oh, what could've been. What could...have...been.

At least we got BR2049 from Villeneuve. I hope to see the man take on Alien someday.

[The Old One]

Agreed Huggs.

&

CinemaSins is cancer.

I'd like to see a genuine critique
by someone good at film criticism at some point.

[Eldritch_DM]

Agreed Huggs.

&

CinemaSins is cancer.

I'd like to see a genuine critique
by someone good at film criticism at some point.

I agree. Cinemasins is a sin against all things holy.

[Local Trouble]

But did you watch it anyway?

[The Old One]

When it came out years ago.
I haven't watched any since.

Not on my subscriptions.
No Sir.

[Perfect-Organism]

Yeah.... so how 'bout that thing brewing on Instagram??

[Eldritch_DM]

Yeah.... so how 'bout that thing brewing on Instagram??

My non-hardcore Alien fan friends all keep linking me to the little posts they keep making knowing I'm the biggest fan in our friend group and saying, "Is this a new game they're teasing?"

My response:

[Local Trouble]

The only people who know for sure ain't talking.