It begs the question of why Rey was the one entrusted to go see Luke. Hell, Why didn't Chewbacca try to talk some sense into him? Hell, Ackbar, Wedge, ANYONE with a connection would have made sense.
Quote from: Local Trouble on Jan 09, 2021, 09:00:08 PM
Yeah, I never did get the outrage over his return.
Agree. His return wasn't the issue. It was most everything else around it like the dagger. TROS had some good eye candy though.
Quote from: Immortan Jonesy on Dec 26, 2020, 09:32:16 PM
The ST as a whole it can be viewed as a mess, but the writing was superior compared to the prequels. The prequels may be great when it comes to scope, new ideas and cinematography breakthroughs, but it's still sucks on a narraite level.
I enjoyed TFA for the most part as it's really a well made remake of the original. It doesn't feel cheap, but more like a love letter. TLJ has some of the most beautiful set pieces of the whole trilogy. The ideas are not so bad either. There are some interesting and kinda nihilistic approaches that I like. They were f**king both, the light side and the dark side, to follow a more grey path. It was better in Kotor ll of course. With TROS, I liked Leia's ending, but I also enjoyed the Palpatine messy stuff. However, I might be biased since I really love the villain and Ian McDiarmid acting
Solo was just a decent spin-off. Too bad it didn't work out. Rogue One was even better. And I absolutely love The Mandalorian. I'm not so interested in Rebels. I think I prefer Clone Wars.
Having said that, to me there is nothing super shity about the Disney era, at leats when it comes to Star Wars, so my personal ranking is:
1. The Mandalorian
2. Clone Wars finale
3. Rogue One
4. The Last Jedi
5. The Force Awakens
6. Rebels
7. The Rise of Skywalker
8. Solo
And I rank all the above over the prequels, with the exception of the Clone Wars series. And over the top.of all that the OT.
Have to disagree on the writing. Where is Rey's development? She basically just automatically unlocks random superpowers and wins over and over.
Anakin is raised a slave, but wins his freedom. His anger and resentment towards the universe are on display in the Jedi council room.
He's destined to be a hero, but fears losing his mother, which puts him on the beginning of a dark path. He is arrogant beyond imagine, loses his mother, and lashes out in anger and murders men, women and children. He is completely socially awkward if he isn't doing Jedi stuff. In that realm he is unsure of himself. He falls in love, but because of his fears of losing something else he loves, he becomes obsessive and feels like he has to control everything. He gets absolutely embarrassed by Dooku due to his own character flaws. He's selfish, and decides he can sacrifice pretty much the entire galaxy to save 1 life. He's desperate to stop what he saw in his visions, which pushes him to cut off Windu's hand. From there murders more children, fully giving himself over to the dark side and all of the preceding events lead him to destroying exactly what he was trying to protect. His arrogance grows even worse, and he gets cut down by the one true father figure he had. Now he becomes an enforcer for everything that his wife stood against, not only betraying her physically, but morally and ethically. There isn't anything even in the same galaxy of writing in the ST in comparison from a writing perspective. The ST has better overall acting and cinematography, and its own enjoyable moments, but is sorely lacking in cohesion or character development.
As a side note, all the above is why I don't get the obsession with portraying Vader with any sort of sympathy when it comes to him yearning for Padme, like the Star Wars Theory fan film, or moments in Vader Immortal. He had every opportunity to do the right thing, but his character flaws were too powerful. He's a freaking wifebeating psycho serial killer, but he doesn't get there overnight (story wise, film pacing wise it is fast). On another side note, that's why we love him haha. WTF is wrong with us.
As for Rey, I liked her in TFA, even if I got a little sick of her being so damn good at everything (minus the fight at the end strangely enough). She just spun her wheels for the next two films and most setup for the characters seemed to evaporate.
Disney Era:
1. Mandolorian
2. Clone Wars Finale
3. Rogue One
4. Rebels
5. Solo
6. The Force Awakens
7. The Last Jedi
8. Rise of Skywalker
Overall:
1. Empire
2. A New Hope
3. Return of the Jedi
4. Mandolorian
5. Rogue One
6. Revenge of the Sith
7. Clone Wars Series
8. Rebels.
9. Solo
10. The Force Awakens
11. The Phantom Menace
12. Attack of the Clones/Last Jedi - I can't decide. 1 is a boring mess of poor acting with some cool imagery, the other is a boring mess of character development with some cool imagery
13.The Rise of Skywalker