New interview with Randy Pitchford. Starts talking about ACM at 20:00 for about 15 minutes.
He says Sega was really pressing it to be out quickly and he says they could have benefited with a few more months development time. Says they invested their own money from Borderlands 2 into ACM.
QuoteSays they invested their own money from Borderlands 2 into ACM.
From all reports it seemed to be the other way around.
Quote from: Darkness on Sep 12, 2017, 07:02:24 PM
He says Sega was really pressing it to be out quickly and he says they could have benefited with a few more months development time.
Quickly? They had 7 years...
Can't trust a single word this guy says.
First he says he's really proud of the game. Then he says there's nothing he would change about it. Then he says it's a 7, 7.5 level game (out of 10), which it's most definitely not. But even if it was, that means he's proud of Gearbox's work on and wouldn't change anything about a 7/7.5 quality game? What does that tell you about his standards?
Needless to say, the guy's full of shit when it comes to A:CM. Always has been and always will be.
(https://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.kinja-img.com%2Fgawker-media%2Fimage%2Fupload%2Fs--mnL9feqe--%2Frunzocizdejgugz5jdel.jpg&hash=1ebd140de4d35b97a4f643f0b19a09e9efb70508)
Still plays victim to this day and passes it off as conspiracy theories or blames some other thing/group/person as the problem. You were contracted to make the game, you f**ked it, it's your fault, randy.
He should change his name to Randy Pitchfraud. Everybody knows that they took the money and put it into BL2, while outsourcing all the work to mediocre studios like TimeGate. It's good that Jim Sterling went after his ass for all the lies he's been spreading.
I still refuse to buy any new Gearbox-developed games after all this nonsense.
Quote from: Xenomrph on Sep 16, 2017, 03:53:15 PM
I still refuse to buy any new Gearbox-developed games after all this nonsense.
I'm the same. I've not touched nor will I ever touch the Borderlands. It's silly, I know, but it's my own little rebellion.
Don't say that! I thought the same and then I played Borderlands 2. One of my top 5 games of last generation.
That's true, Borderlands 2 is a great game. If I didn't play it before A:CM, though, I probably wouldn't have touched it.
Quote from: Darkness on Sep 16, 2017, 09:20:15 PM
Don't say that! I thought the same and then I played Borderlands 2. One of my top 5 games of last generation.
Don't care, it could be the best game ever made and playing it could literally cure cancer, and I wouldn't play it on principle.
That said I'm really not a fan of "loot shooters" (Borderlands, Destiny, The Division, etc) so I don't feel I'm missing out on much anyway. It's just not a genre of games I enjoy.
Aw, c'mon. Why can't you just let bygones be bygones? Give old Randy another chance.
If he just acknowledged Gearbox's role in this whole mess, sure, I could probably do that. As it is, why should I reward bad behavior?
Quote from: Xenomrph on Sep 17, 2017, 08:07:12 AM
Quote from: Darkness on Sep 16, 2017, 09:20:15 PM
Don't say that! I thought the same and then I played Borderlands 2. One of my top 5 games of last generation.
Don't care, it could be the best game ever made and playing it could literally cure cancer, and I wouldn't play it on principle.
I'm with Xenomrph on this one. I just can't bring myself to support Gearbox after this mess. Sure, I don't think Colonial Marines is the most offensive game ever released but it sure was disappointing and Pitchford's whole attitude after the fact and all those bts woes has just soured me to him and the company.
Quote from: Corporal Hicks on Sep 17, 2017, 06:51:13 PM
Quote from: Xenomrph on Sep 17, 2017, 08:07:12 AM
Quote from: Darkness on Sep 16, 2017, 09:20:15 PM
Don't say that! I thought the same and then I played Borderlands 2. One of my top 5 games of last generation.
Don't care, it could be the best game ever made and playing it could literally cure cancer, and I wouldn't play it on principle.
I'm with Xenomrph on this one. I just can't bring myself to support Gearbox after this mess. Sure, I don't think Colonial Marines is the most offensive game ever released but it sure was disappointing and Pitchford's whole attitude after the fact and all those bts woes has just soured me to him and the company.
For me, it's less about the game itself and more about Pitchford's attitude. Like to be perfectly honest, I've gotten legitimate enjoyment out of Colonial Marines. I've beaten it several times, and there's aspects of it that I think are genuinely good (even if a lot of the game is marred by half-finished nonsense).
But Randy's "we did nothing wrong" attitude is repugnant, and I'm not going to support that.
I bought the first Borderlands before all these shenanigans took place for a couple of bucks and it was one of the most boring FPS shooters I've ever played. Cool cell shaded graphics, but that's it. I hate the constant respawns and the gazillion guns which are basically all the same except for a different color and slightly different stats. Also, the world is huge but lifeless.
For me that was the fun, opening loot boxes and finding out if it has a better gun than the one I have. The different colours indicate its rarity.
Quote from: Samhain13 on Sep 13, 2017, 01:13:51 PM
Can't trust a single word this guy says.
Pretty much exactly what I was going to post ;)
While I share the disappointments over ACM's final product, I guess I don't feel as strongly. It's been a while, but the old early E3 demo really wasn't that different, plus it had the words "WORK IN PROGRESS" slapped across it. Hell some things actually looked better in the final game. I'm not saying the disappointment wasn't shared, but I think Pitchford just got a taste of directed internet wrath. Really, Sega should be the ones in hot water. In the end, it's still one of the more enjoyable Alien games out there.
Quote from: Cellien on Sep 20, 2017, 08:38:32 PM
Hell some things actually looked better in the final game.
Like what?
After the train wreck that was aliens colonial marines I can't trust this guy.
Watched part of this interview, the other day on some other random YouTube channel that was talking shit about him. :D It made me laugh, when he was saying how the hype for Colonial Marines was always gunna be above expectations, and the concept was never going to live up to the hype? (well something on them lines)
Randy needs to take a look at what Creative Assembly, did with Alien Isolation because that lived above expectations for most Alien(s) fans. Randy needs to stop trying to worm his way out, by putting the blame on everyone else... I would have a little more respect for him if he just apologise and admitted that he made a bad call when making A:CM. In fact I will agree with Randy that A:CM is medicore fun game... Thats if you sell it to kids under 10 and put the Kenner Toy logo on the f**king box. Other then that A:CM was a piss take to the Aliens franchise.
Randy is a tool..there is no other way to describe him. Anyone who does not look at something they are criticised on is a tool. How can someone only respond to positives but laah out against criticism. Its obvious Gearbox dropped the ball, its obvious the blame is in their hands.
I applaud ign (never thought I would say that) for catching him on his bs when he mentioned Sega doing false advertising. Listen I like gearbox, I like borderlandz and I love Brothers in Arms. However, what makes a company succeed is recognizing and learning from their mistakes. You are not going to get anywhere in life avoiding criticism and lashing out like a high schooler because you messed up.
I have no respect for Randy. I have all the respect for Timegate who pushed out a decent product with a less than a year dev time. I do not trust Randy. Someone who loves the Alien license (or so he says) would not of dropped the ball like they did. Sega gave you the money..you pissed it away. Oh and we can talk about vertical slices all say if we would like. However, at least most vertical slices put out there are close to the vision of the game.
Ubi dropped the ball when Watch Dogs was shown. However, at leaat the fundamentals of the game shown was still in the actual gameplay. Killzone teaser for ps3. Was a pre rendered trailer but the action shown was reality when actual game shipped.
Everything present in Alien vertical alice was non existent. Aside from the crusher (what a joke in actual game) and the fact it was a fps game..that is it!!
Again, I cannot blame timegate. To push out the product they did in the 9 month dev time is awesome. Shame those talented blokes had to close up from this.
Also its very hilarious how randy specifically tries to act like he didnt know who Jim Sterling is...lmao come on randy..
Quote from: Xenomrph on Sep 13, 2017, 04:47:24 AM
QuoteSays they invested their own money from Borderlands 2 into ACM.
From all reports it seemed to be the other way around.
Cant Trust him.. All the reports and leaked and employees said it was otherwise.
https://kotaku.com/5986694/from-dream-to-disaster-the-story-of-aliens-colonial-marines
Kotaku did a really good Article about it all.
Everything he talks about is bullshit. The interviewer never mentioned how the final game looked nothing like the E3 Demo in terms of Asset placement and level design. Randy brought up clearly this video.
Clearly something went wrong! this has nothing to do with Artist Changing stuff. Assets were missing. Game Engine was toned down. LV-426 was a Completely different level to what we got.
You don't change that much of a game that late into Development. They outsourced the Development.
Team deathmatch might be near 7.0 but the rest of the game rates much, much lower.
QuoteThe interviewer never mentioned how the final game looked nothing like the E3 Demo
I find it odd how a number of people keep latching onto or focusing on the old E3 demo. That wasn't even a real issue, as pre-release gameplay footage gave a fairly accurate depiction of A:CM's final gameplay. Especially when there are loads of legitimate criticisms to discuss.
Pitchford and the other higher ups at gearbox are a disgrace. I'm with the boycott ever since this debacle. I will never purchase a game from them ever again, no matter how great they may be.
Makes me Wonder what happened to the original game.
We went from this
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To this (which even resembles the older stuff
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To
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They did all those Promotional Videos. Saying how they were doing new things that first person shooters have never done Story wise.
https://youtu.be/UGX2WE4QUw8?t=9m33s
like lol what?
He's gonna take this pompous attitude to his grave. He has such a "well, what did you expect?" and "it's not as bad as people say it is" demeanor that it really tells you a lot about Gearbox.
Gearbox has done some very good things. Brothers in Arms and Borderlands are wonderful series, and I very much look forward to something new in both series. I actually liked Duke Nukem Forever, but I can definitely agree that it doesn't hold a candle to Duke 3D. The DLC definitely added a lot more fun to it all. At least it is clear to Randy that "we have to do something really special with Duke these days in order to succeed." I hope very much that Duke has quite a long life ahead of him still, and want more ass-kicking action.
But it is clear that Randy refuses to accept any responsibility for what happened with ACM. The fact that such a plot hole-ridden, poorly acted, horribly designed game could be released to the public, and there was no sign of any kind of internal QA is beyond reprehensible. Sega should've pulled the game away from Gearbox and given it to another studio, and simply delayed everything. It might seem like a "pulling a Bethesda" at this moment, but this particular game needed that more than anything.
Quote from: Toxic34 on Jan 01, 2018, 10:14:58 PM"we have to do something really special with Duke these days in order to succeed."
Release mod tools.
-Windebieste.
It's the only time I've ever took the stance of "I will NEVER buy or play anything connected with this company ever again" - that's how burnt I was/am over Colonial Marines, the blatant lies this man told, the hype HE generated during conventions and his voice over during the demonstrations ensuring the quality of the game and how much of a fan they all were of the franchise - it's sickening.
I haven't bought a Gearbox game since.
-Windebieste.
Never again Gearbox.
It still bothers me to this day as well. There is so much potential in the IP and it just keeps get shat on.
There was a lot of good stuff in the game like the Smartgun moving with the targets, the look of the marines and the pulse rifle sounds, the motion tracker mechanic (probably my favorite thing).
The E3 demo did set up a lot of expectations as far as graphics went, but I think one of the biggest things was that not a single mission in the actual game captured the feel of that demo. The intensity and desperation from the demo were no where in the final product, not even in the mission that was "kinda sorta" based on the demo.
Mod tools definitely could have played a part in saving this though. The overhaul mod does a good job, but there was only so much it could do
Still pissed and still haven't bought a Gearbox game since. Not even the Homeworld remakes.
If what he says has any truth to it fair enough , its not the first time Sega have rushed a game out and its been a complete unfinished mess (Sonic 06).
It still doesn't excuse the underhanded blatantly false advertisement and marketing of the game.
One thing I did have fun with was the multiplayer , that at least was a giggle.
I agree that Gearbox deserves the hate and people should be careful about their games in the future.
I don't think Randy and his family deserved to get death threats about this, however.
Nobody deserves that.
However, I'd say he DOES deserve to be on this list:
https://www.theonion.com/who-needs-a-good-cock-punching-1819587106 (https://www.theonion.com/who-needs-a-good-cock-punching-1819587106)
Given the date it was published, it's amazing how prescient #4 and #5 were.
Ooooh, that Larry... >:(
How timely:
https://www.nytimes.com/2018/01/24/sports/larry-nassar-sentencing.html
He getting more than his cock punched.
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Did you forgive Randy yet?
Nah.
How about now?
Ehh..... nah.
You're a hard, pitiless man. :'(
Randy Pitchford made me this way. :(
Is A:CM still canon?
According to the USCM Survival Guide, some parts of it apparently are.
Either way, it'll always be canon, in my heart.
You never compromise your principles, do you?
My opinions have been known to change over time, but this isn't one of them. :P
Quote from: Xenomrph on Apr 01, 2018, 08:41:23 AM
According to the USCM Survival Guide, some parts of it apparently are.
Either way, it'll always be canon, in my heart.
Who said the Survival Guide was canon?!
Quote from: Corporal Hicks on Apr 03, 2018, 10:34:38 AM
Quote from: Xenomrph on Apr 01, 2018, 08:41:23 AM
According to the USCM Survival Guide, some parts of it apparently are.
Either way, it'll always be canon, in my heart.
Who said the Survival Guide was canon?!
Why wouldn't it be? It's licensed by FOX and published after the 'Out of the Shadows' "cutoff" where allegedly everything would be canon. Even SM said he didn't know if it was canon or not. :P
That said, the Survival Guide doesn't quite confirm everything from Colonial Marines as being "canon", it dances around the topic by saying there are "rumors" or "conflicting reports".
Quote from: Corporal Hicks on Apr 03, 2018, 10:34:38 AM
Quote from: Xenomrph on Apr 01, 2018, 08:41:23 AM
According to the USCM Survival Guide, some parts of it apparently are.
Either way, it'll always be canon, in my heart.
Who said the Survival Guide was canon?!
That the one that says USCSS Sulaco?
srsly? :laugh:
Sure the book needed an editor (or seven) but that doesn't really change much. Even the WY Report got the occasional thing wrong. ;)
Only one of them was ratified though.
Everyone's got their own standards. :)
What happened to making it all fit no matter how awful it is? :P
What about it? :P It all fits, from a certain point of view. :)
Not sure what that has to do with what we're talking about. :P
I'm just gauging your resolve.
Quote from: Xenomrph on Apr 01, 2018, 12:09:03 PM
My opinions have been known to change over time, but this isn't one of them. :P
How about now?
I got A:CM for the 360 the other day as a 2 for $10 deal. It's nice to be able to shoot Aliens in a resolution better than my PC can muster. But it's giving me motion sickness playing a FPS on a big telly. And I'm constantly reminded how badly delivered the dialogue is and that Mikey Neumann isn't very good at writing it.
Quote from: Local Trouble on Apr 08, 2018, 12:50:13 PM
How about now?
I came close last night, and then I woke up.
Quote from: SM on Apr 09, 2018, 12:36:07 AM
I got A:CM for the 360 the other day as a 2 for $10 deal. It's nice to be able to shoot Aliens in a resolution better than my PC can muster. But it's giving me motion sickness playing a FPS on a big telly. And I'm constantly reminded how badly delivered the dialogue is and that Mikey Neumann isn't very good at writing it.
It'd be nice to see more of what Bradley Thompson and the other writer whose name I can't currently remember did originally.
Yeah, some fan projects have better dialog and voice acting than A:CM did, so it really breaks the immersion when both of those things are bad. And that's coming from a guy who likes the game, the multiplayer especially.
Quote from: Corporal Hicks on Apr 09, 2018, 08:05:38 AM
Quote from: SM on Apr 09, 2018, 12:36:07 AM
I got A:CM for the 360 the other day as a 2 for $10 deal. It's nice to be able to shoot Aliens in a resolution better than my PC can muster. But it's giving me motion sickness playing a FPS on a big telly. And I'm constantly reminded how badly delivered the dialogue is and that Mikey Neumann isn't very good at writing it.
It'd be nice to see more of what Bradley Thompson and the other writer whose name I can't currently remember did originally.
Play 'Aliens: Infestation'. :P
I have. And I loved it. But I'd like more!! More!!! That was supposed to tie into CM somehow.
I own AvP, A:CM and Alien Isolation yet I can't be arsed* to play any of them for some reason. :-\
* - did I use that phrase correctly?
Quote from: Corporal Hicks on Apr 09, 2018, 08:05:38 AM
It'd be nice to see more of what Bradley Thompson and the other writer whose name I can't currently remember did originally.
David Weddle I think. Gearbox supposedly had the original script on display in a glass cabinet in their offices. I think ACM and Infestation ended up contradicting each other with regards to continuity.
Quote from: Local Trouble on Apr 09, 2018, 05:36:01 PM
I own AvP, A:CM and Alien Isolation yet I can't be arsed* to play any of them for some reason. :-\
* - did I use that phrase correctly?
But surely you must play the "Stasis Interrupted" DLC all the time?
Quote from: Local Trouble on Apr 09, 2018, 05:36:01 PM
I own AvP, A:CM and Alien Isolation yet I can't be arsed* to play any of them for some reason. :-\
* - did I use that phrase correctly?
You're missing out with regard to Alien Isolation, it's fantastic (although it runs a little long in the tooth as it goes on).
Which AvP do you have? There's two of them on Steam - AvPClassic, and AvP2010.
Quote from: Local Trouble on Apr 09, 2018, 05:36:01 PM
I own AvP, A:CM and Alien Isolation yet I can't be arsed* to play any of them for some reason. :-\
* - did I use that phrase correctly?
Indeed.
QuoteI have. And I loved it. But I'd like more!! More!!! That was supposed to tie into CM somehow.
USS Sephora was in both games and both were post Aliens, but Infestation was set sometime before A:CM. Then the Sulaco gets a massive hole blown in it at the end, supposedly defeating the Aliens and spins off into space - only to appear back at LV-426 undamaged and full of Aliens again. Stasis Interrupted happens before Infestation though. From memory.
tl;dr - It was supposed to tie in - but didn't.
Quote from: Corporal Hicks on Apr 09, 2018, 08:05:38 AM
Quote from: SM on Apr 09, 2018, 12:36:07 AM
I got A:CM for the 360 the other day as a 2 for $10 deal. It's nice to be able to shoot Aliens in a resolution better than my PC can muster. But it's giving me motion sickness playing a FPS on a big telly. And I'm constantly reminded how badly delivered the dialogue is and that Mikey Neumann isn't very good at writing it.
It'd be nice to see more of what Bradley Thompson and the other writer whose name I can't currently remember did originally.
It would be nice. It can't be worse 'Let's go after Reid. Reid "...I almost died". Reid "If that happens again you shoot me." Bella "You do the same for me". Let's go after O'Neal. Reid "No way! I'm in charge! Alright then but if we die it's your fault" *later* O'Neal shoots the chestburster but not Bella.
Sheer poetry.
Quote from: Xenomrph on Apr 10, 2018, 12:13:23 AM
Which AvP do you have? There's two of them on Steam - AvPClassic, and AvP2010.
2010. I don't have a gaming PC, just Xbox 360 E and Xbox One X consoles. AvP and A:CM are only playable on the 360 so far, but I have the X1 version of Alien: Isolation. Some developers have actually enhanced their old 360 titles for the X1X (https://news.xbox.com/en-us/2018/02/27/new-enhanced-xbox-360-titles-feature-come-xbox-one-backward-compatibility/) so I wonder if Sega would ever do that for A:CM.
Isn't AvP for the Atari Jaguar the classic version?
Nah, Rebellion has made 3 AvP games- they did the Jaguar one, then one for PC in 1999 (and a"gold edition" update in 2000, that's AvPClassic on Steam) and then AvP2010.
AvPClassic is legitimately scary as shit - the Alien spawning is randomized in terms of number and placement except for a handful of examples, and the Aliens are stupid-fast, deal crazy damage, and their acid blood is lethal on higher difficulties. Facehuggers are one-hit-kill jumpscares, they're terrifying when you hear them scuttling around.
The controls for all three species are a little "floaty" and you move pretty fast - it's a byproduct of the game being made in the era of super-fast FPS games like Quake 3, Unreal Tournament, Tribes, etc.
The game is $5 on Steam and it's 18 years old, I bet even your non-gaming PC could run it if it's not, like, 10 years old and has any modicum of power under the hood. I'm phone-posting otherwise I'd grab the game's system requirements for you; i'd gamble you exceed them by a good margin.
Edit— got the system specs:
QuoteSYSTEM REQUIREMENTS
OS: Windows XP, Windows Vista, Windows 7
Processor: Pentium II 400 MMX
Memory: 128MB
Graphics: DirectX compatible graphics card
DirectX®: DirectX 9.0c
Hard Drive:500MB
Sound: DirectX compatible sound card
Controller Support: XBox 360 Controller for Windows[\quote]
I can't voich for playing it with a controller, I always use keyboard & mouse.
Is it as good as A:CM?
Quote from: Local Trouble on Apr 10, 2018, 04:46:38 PM
Is it as good as A:CM?
I know you're being facetious, but it's arguably one of my favorite Aliens/AvP games and in terms of replayability it's second to none because it's so unpredictable. It's really scary, but in a different way that Isolation - in AvPClassic, you've got a veritable arsenal at your disposal, but the enemies are so dangerous that it doesn't matter. It captures the 'Aliens' action/danger balance very well, whereas some other games can deteriorate into a power fantasy where you mow down Aliens by the dozen.
Sounds like a good game. They should remaster it for the current generation of consoles so I can play it like all my other games.
Can you make it fit?
Aside from a pretty hilarious typo in the Marine prologue, sure, no problem. :)
Quote from: Xenomrph on Apr 10, 2018, 03:56:39 PM
Nah, Rebellion has made 3 AvP games- they did the Jaguar one, then one for PC in 1999 (and a"gold edition" update in 2000, that's AvPClassic on Steam) and then AvP2010.
:o You forgot AvP Requiem!
Quote from: Xenomrph on Apr 11, 2018, 07:02:29 PM
Aside from a pretty hilarious typo in the Marine prologue, sure, no problem. :)
Do tell.
Is "oorah to ashes" canon?
Quote from: Corporal Hicks on Apr 12, 2018, 12:37:56 PM
Quote from: Xenomrph on Apr 10, 2018, 03:56:39 PM
Nah, Rebellion has made 3 AvP games- they did the Jaguar one, then one for PC in 1999 (and a"gold edition" update in 2000, that's AvPClassic on Steam) and then AvP2010.
:o You forgot AvP Requiem!
I didn't realize they made that game.
Quote from: Local Trouble on Apr 12, 2018, 02:23:56 PM
Quote from: Xenomrph on Apr 11, 2018, 07:02:29 PM
Aside from a pretty hilarious typo in the Marine prologue, sure, no problem. :)
Do tell.
Is "oorah to ashes" canon?
The Marine prologue says the game takes place 10 years after 'Aliens'... in 2154 or something like that. Whoops!
Surely you can make that fit. Like LV-426 being 1200km. ;D
How about now?
Quote from: Local Trouble on Apr 11, 2018, 01:16:15 PM
Sounds like a good game. They should remaster it for the current generation of consoles so I can play it like all my other games.
There is actually a mod of the game that is pretty much a remake. The guy replaced all AVPclassic creature models for AVP2010 ones, so you are pretty much playing AVP2010 with AVPclassic gameplay, the graphics on the environment were also improved. Unfortunately it's only for steam, I don't see it going to consoles unless some smart modder finds a way to do it.
Nobody in the industry seems to care at all about the old avp games, even avp2 haven't got to steam so far. So the chances of any remasters seems really hard to happen.
Quote from: Xenomrph on Apr 12, 2018, 04:34:36 PM
I didn't realize they made that game.
That's another one that seems to have got lost in time. They could have make it available to latter consoles, as others psp games were, but again nobody seems to care about avp games. From what I have seem, the game isn't even good, but still I want to play it, the 3rd person view for predator reminds me Predator Concrete Jungle, I would probably enjoy it a little.
Quote from: Local Trouble on Apr 13, 2018, 11:27:26 AM
Surely you can make that fit. Like LV-426 being 1200km. ;D
How about now?
Just like the 1200km thing, it's a typo. Problem solved! ;D
AvP2 hasn't made it to Steam because the game is roped up in a legal quagmire. Fox owns the intellectual property, but Monolith (owned by Warner Bros) owns the game engine and assets.
WB and Fox have seemed more open to collaboration in recent years, what with the Alien and Predator both being in Mortal Kombat X, so never say never...
Quote from: Local Trouble on Apr 13, 2018, 11:27:26 AM
Surely you can make that fit. Like LV-426 being 1200km. ;D
How about now?
Oddly enough the lightning strikes seen from space at the start of A:CM would be the size of a continent were it a comparable size to Earth. They're way too big for LV-426 as it is...
Which results in what size for LV-426?
About the size of Nebraska.
That's tiny.
He's being facetious. :P
https://youtu.be/_O-PueRyD9g (https://youtu.be/_O-PueRyD9g)
I was recently watching this gameplays from the E3 2012. Is it me or the grafics in this demo are better than the final game? Even the Pulse Rifle looks and sounds better. I would like ask the people that play this demo of there where too match difference with the final product.
The demos looking better than the final product is pretty much where a huge chunk of the controversy stemmed from.
Quote from: Xenomrph on Apr 15, 2018, 03:46:49 PM
The demos looking better than the final product is pretty much where a huge chunk of the controversy stemmed from.
Yeah, but the weir thing and that I can't understand is why they released a incredible public playable demo during the E3 (excluding the single player demo that anyone played), for then release a crappy final game. Randy should go to the jail for that ;D
Quote from: aliens13 on Apr 15, 2018, 04:08:00 PM
Quote from: Xenomrph on Apr 15, 2018, 03:46:49 PM
The demos looking better than the final product is pretty much where a huge chunk of the controversy stemmed from.
Yeah, but the weir thing and that I can't understand is why they released a incredible public playable demo during the E3 (excluding the single player demo that anyone played), for then release a crappy final game. Randy should go to the jail for that ;D
They released an incredible demo because they wanted people to buy the game, even if it meant pulling a bait-and-switch on consumers. The demo people played wasn't representative of the final product, it was just a polished self-contained "slice" of the game
Quote from: Xenomrph on Apr 15, 2018, 03:46:49 PM
The demos looking better than the final product is pretty much where a huge chunk of the controversy stemmed from.
Does that video tear open old wounds and reignite your anger at the Pitchman?
Quote from: Local Trouble on Apr 16, 2018, 11:58:13 AM
Quote from: Xenomrph on Apr 15, 2018, 03:46:49 PM
The demos looking better than the final product is pretty much where a huge chunk of the controversy stemmed from.
Does that video tear open old wounds and reignite your anger at the Pitchman?
Who said the wounds ever closed? >:(
I imagine they never will so long as you keep playing A:CM.
I like (parts of) the game, I don't like Pitchford's garbage attitude and shitty business practices. :)
Perhaps you'll change your mind if you play it even more.
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Quote from: Local Trouble on Apr 17, 2018, 02:02:07 PM
Perhaps you'll change your mind if you play it even more.
The most fun part of it was the multiplayer and that is almost as dead as Pitchford's integrity. Playing it more is barely an option.
Quote from: Local Trouble on Apr 17, 2018, 02:02:07 PM
Perhaps you'll change your mind if you play it even more.
Why would I?
Quote from: Samhain13 on Apr 17, 2018, 09:50:50 PM
Quote from: Local Trouble on Apr 17, 2018, 02:02:07 PM
Perhaps you'll change your mind if you play it even more.
The most fun part of it was the multiplayer and that is almost as dead as Pitchford's integrity. Playing it more is barely an option.
Multiplayer was actually surprisingly fun! I'm hoping to be able to get some folk together to play on AlienDay.
Quote from: Corporal Hicks on Apr 18, 2018, 06:05:42 AM
Quote from: Samhain13 on Apr 17, 2018, 09:50:50 PM
Quote from: Local Trouble on Apr 17, 2018, 02:02:07 PM
Perhaps you'll change your mind if you play it even more.
The most fun part of it was the multiplayer and that is almost as dead as Pitchford's integrity. Playing it more is barely an option.
Multiplayer was actually surprisingly fun! I'm hoping to be able to get some folk together to play on AlienDay.
If you got friends online then yeah by inviting you can create a match. But you can't find many matches on your own at this point on the consoles and the steam's matchmaking system have always been broken. So the only option is inviting or joining others.
Quote from: Samhain13 on Apr 17, 2018, 09:50:50 PM
Quote from: Local Trouble on Apr 17, 2018, 02:02:07 PM
Perhaps you'll change your mind if you play it even more.
The most fun part of it was the multiplayer and that is almost as dead as Pitchford's integrity. Playing it more is barely an option.
Have you forgiven him yet?
Quote from: Local Trouble on Apr 19, 2018, 02:52:15 PM
Quote from: Samhain13 on Apr 17, 2018, 09:50:50 PM
Quote from: Local Trouble on Apr 17, 2018, 02:02:07 PM
Perhaps you'll change your mind if you play it even more.
The most fun part of it was the multiplayer and that is almost as dead as Pitchford's integrity. Playing it more is barely an option.
Have you forgiven him yet?
At this point yeah, what happened is over and I stopped caring, its been like 4 years? Actually I was able to enjoy both the campaign and the multiplayer a lot, of course having extremely low expectations after watching the backlash alien fans and gamers in general had of A:CM kind of helped it. So I prefer having A:CM as it is than nothing at all.
The issue like Xenomrph said was "Pitchford's garbage attitude and shitty business practices", he did lie on purpose to the fans. The issue is that this is not that uncommon in the gaming industry, showing up better graphics and footage that is not even on the final game in demos already happened in many games, like even Halo 2. But yes, maybe A:CM took it to a whole new level. The gaming industry lies a lot, their trailers and E3 demos are made only to convince people to pre-order games, that should be considered false advertising when it's clear that the final product is nothing like what was previously shown.
It's just about money, lying just sells, the greed is also shown in the microtransactions, which at this point is becoming a joke and already started a backlash against the industry, plus now we have to issue of people using games as their political platforms.
So it's not only Pitchford, Gearbox is just one of the many companies with shitty business practices in this industry. Sure I'm will never pay for a Gearbox game ever again or never pre-order anything and only buy stuff on steam summer sales so I only spent as little money as possible in this industry, but the issue is much bigger than just this case with A:CM, so for me next to the grand scheme of things there is stuff that deserves much more attenction than this guy.
All that is very true, partly, but Randy took it to a new level entirely. From getting Kodak color grading, which looked spectacular on older screenshot to lower res textures with unimaginative lighting for instance. How proud they were to have this franchise, only to lose control over the first Borderlands and shift all development to various studio's and thus not even supervising anymore. Sega being pushy? It bought Gearbox a full year by ramming out AvP instead, which could've been so much more if given some more time.
So forgive him over shit years ago? Not likely.
Quote from: skull-splitter on May 25, 2018, 09:36:05 AM
So forgive him over shit years ago? Not likely.
I wonder if Xenomrph finally has.
Probably not.
Nice to have people with standards.
TheTemplargfx ACM overhaul mod was able to do some damage control and make the game feel a lot better.
Sure it's not the fans's job to clean up Randy's mess but damm that mod looked great and the aliens were hard as hell.
Plus knowing that a gaming company was outclassed by a random modder on the internet will continue to make me laugh forever.
Quote from: Xenomrph on Apr 15, 2018, 03:46:49 PM
The demos looking better than the final product is pretty much where a huge chunk of the controversy stemmed from.
It was indeed. This game still gets my inner Godfather riled up.
"But when it comes to an Alien game, I am a superstitious man. And if some terrible calamity should befall it? If it should suffer delays, or be handed off to some other developer...if it is advertised with deception and released without being properly completed, or if the final product does not match or exceed the promised quality, then I am going to blame some of the people involved with its development. And all this, this I do not forgive".
It was a horribly written and glitchy mess, with bad gameplay mechanics. It was just so unnecessary. The total war guys made Isolation. How hard should it have been for gearbox to make another fps?
So what is Randy working on these days?
Quote from: Wweyland on May 26, 2018, 09:34:25 PM
So what is Randy working on these days?
Hopefully, Brothers in Arms 4.
Quote from: Weyland on May 26, 2018, 09:34:25 PM
So what is Randy working on these days?
Hopefully falling down the stairs and snapping his neck. The cheat and liar.
Quote from: The Old One on May 27, 2018, 01:53:36 AM
Quote from: Weyland on May 26, 2018, 09:34:25 PM
So what is Randy working on these days?
Hopefully falling down the stairs and snapping his neck. The cheat and liar.
No offense meant here, but I think "a fishing trawler" would've been a more "just" fate, and somewhat less distasteful.
Quote from: The Old One on May 27, 2018, 01:53:36 AM
Quote from: Weyland on May 26, 2018, 09:34:25 PM
So what is Randy working on these days?
Hopefully falling down the stairs and snapping his neck. The cheat and liar.
Why can't you give ol' Randy a break? Just look at that face...
(https://i.imgur.com/pNmNpXm.jpg)
Ah, the entitlement of the gamer...
See? SM has totally forgiven Randy!
Quote from: Local Trouble on May 27, 2018, 05:41:17 AM
Quote from: The Old One on May 27, 2018, 01:53:36 AM
Quote from: Weyland on May 26, 2018, 09:34:25 PM
So what is Randy working on these days?
Hopefully falling down the stairs and snapping his neck. The cheat and liar.
Why can't you give ol' Randy a break? Just look at that face...
https://i.imgur.com/pNmNpXm.jpg
That picture is making it worse.
http://knowyourmeme.com/memes/nu-male-smile
Quote from: Local Trouble on May 27, 2018, 11:10:51 AM
See? SM has totally forgiven Randy!
There's a large scale between forgiveness and "I want him crippled, or better yet, dead."
I mean, I'd exchange H.R Giger's fate with Randy Pitchford in a split second but I don't really wish death upon him, just retribution until he actually apologizes to the correct degree. Which he has refused to do so far, so f**k him- and his company.
Quote from: Samhain13 on May 27, 2018, 12:52:26 PM
That picture is making it worse.
Are you revoking your forgiveness?
Quote from: Samhain13 link=topic=58842.msg2291428#msg2291428date=1527425546http://knowyourmeme.com/memes/nu-male-smile (http://knowyourmeme.com/memes/nu-male-smile)
Imagine if he was making jazz hands at the same time.
Quote from: SM on May 28, 2018, 01:02:11 AM
Quote from: Local Trouble on May 27, 2018, 11:10:51 AM
See? SM has totally forgiven Randy!
There's a large scale between forgiveness and "I want him crippled, or better yet, dead."
Granted. What about Mikey Neumann? Do you dig his writing now? After all, he DID give us Turk.
And where in THE hell is Xenomrph? I bet he's this close...
(https://i.imgur.com/j9fnYB8.jpg)
...to finally letting Randy back into heart.
QuoteWhat about Mikey Neumann?
No comment.
Your heart is softening. I can tell.
SM is a big ol' marshmelon.
One of my favorite videos on Youtube:
Quote from: Local Trouble on May 28, 2018, 04:58:31 AM
Quote from: Samhain13 on May 27, 2018, 12:52:26 PM
That picture is making it worse.
Are you revoking your forgiveness?
Nah, but its easier to keep it if I don`t see him making that face.
Quote from: Local Trouble on May 28, 2018, 04:58:31 AM
And where in THE hell is Xenomrph? I bet he's this close...
https://i.imgur.com/j9fnYB8.jpg
...to finally letting Randy back into heart.
How much did you just lose on that bet? ;)
Quote from: Local Trouble on May 28, 2018, 07:40:40 AM
Your heart is softening. I can tell.
SM is a big ol' marshmelon.
The guy has MS. I've ragged on his A:CM work more than enough.
I wish I could have seen your first reaction to their announcement that the colony survived the explosion of the AP. Did you get the vapors?
Quote from: Xenomrph on May 29, 2018, 04:03:07 AM
How much did you just lose on that bet? ;)
What if Randy cosplay'd as Red Sonja, She-Hulk or Witchblade? Would that help?
Quote from: Local Trouble on May 29, 2018, 04:50:07 AM
What if Randy cosplay'd as Red Sonja, She-Hulk or Witchblade? Would that help?
I think that would make it worse.
Your willpower is strong.
Quote from: The Old One on May 27, 2018, 01:53:36 AM
Quote from: Weyland on May 26, 2018, 09:34:25 PM
So what is Randy working on these days?
Hopefully falling down the stairs and snapping his neck. The cheat and liar.
Alright, that will be enough of that right now. I wont tolerate any sort of death-wish comments to anyone on this forum. Consider this your one and only warning in regards to that kind of behaviour.
Quote from: Local Trouble on May 29, 2018, 04:50:07 AM
What if Randy cosplay'd as Red Sonja, She-Hulk or Witchblade? Would that help?
Enough trolling of Xenomrph, Trouble. It's getting a little tiresome.
Have YOU forgiven Randy? Considering how much you love playing ACM now, I can't see why you would hold a grudge any more.
I've no qualms admitting I enjoyed the multiplayer but the game was still a major disappointment and I've maintained my promise not to give any more money to Gearbox. It was hard this weekend though as I really wanted to buy Homeworld but I stuck by that.
Is Gearbox really any worse than, say, EA? I can't imagine boycotting them indefinitely because they have too many IPs that I'm in love with.
Gearbox has Borderlands? Homeworld? Duke Nukem? Anymore? EA has a bigger library than that.
Battleborn and Fortnite too.
Gearbox is Fortnite? Wow. Never knew that. Another reason to avoid that cartoon.
Quote from: Corporal Hicks on May 29, 2018, 07:36:35 AM
Quote from: The Old One on May 27, 2018, 01:53:36 AM
Quote from: Weyland on May 26, 2018, 09:34:25 PM
So what is Randy working on these days?
Hopefully falling down the stairs and snapping his neck. The cheat and liar.
Alright, that will be enough of that right now. I wont tolerate any sort of death-wish comments to anyone on this forum. Consider this your one and only warning in regards to that kind of behaviour.
Oh c'mon, you didn't honestly believe that was in earnest- I said as much shortly afterwards.
I consider Randy Pitchford repugnant and cowardly for not admitting to his mistakes but him being dead accomplishes nothing.
I really don't care. We wont allow any sort of comments like that here. It's not funny and it only perpetuates that horrendous impression of fandoms.
As long as civil descent is allowed that sounds fine by me.
Disagreements are expected. I just expect people to have them like adults. They don't have to agree with others, but they do have to do so with respect and without acting like they're on a playground. Death wish or death-threat comments are 100% not going to fly here in any circumstance. But I think that's been made clear.
I admit that sometimes, just sometimes multiplayer was enjoyable but the game is still horrendous. I can't say anything that hasn't already been said about it. This game was constantly delayed and funds for the game were used for borderlands 2 or so I have read. Dickish thing to do imo.
I sometimes wonder what the ps2 version would have been like had that continued.
Quote from: Corporal Hicks on May 29, 2018, 09:18:23 AM
Gearbox has Borderlands? Homeworld? Duke Nukem? Anymore? EA has a bigger library than that.
I'm willing to give Homeworld a pass because even though they own the IP now, they've been very transparent that they aren't the ones developing it.
Quote from: Corporal Hicks on May 29, 2018, 07:57:26 AM
I've no qualms admitting I enjoyed the multiplayer but the game was still a major disappointment and I've maintained my promise not to give any more money to Gearbox. It was hard this weekend though as I really wanted to buy Homeworld but I stuck by that.
I'm glad to hear I'm not the only one that petty. ;D
I've seen the Borderlands games in 360 bargain bins - and I've heard they're pretty decent - but Gearbox isn't getting any more of my dosh. Even if they're not really getting any more of my dosh because the games are all second hand. It's the principle!!
Quote from: SM on May 30, 2018, 12:09:53 AM
Quote from: Corporal Hicks on May 29, 2018, 07:57:26 AM
I've no qualms admitting I enjoyed the multiplayer but the game was still a major disappointment and I've maintained my promise not to give any more money to Gearbox. It was hard this weekend though as I really wanted to buy Homeworld but I stuck by that.
I'm glad to hear I'm not the only one that petty. ;D
I've seen the Borderlands games in 360 bargain bins - and I've heard they're pretty decent - but Gearbox isn't getting any more of my dosh. Even if they're not really getting any more of my dosh because the games are all second hand. It's the principle!!
Holy shit, something that SM and I agree on. ;D
Quote from: SM on May 30, 2018, 12:09:53 AM
I've seen the Borderlands games in 360 bargain bins - and I've heard they're pretty decent - but Gearbox isn't getting any more of my dosh. Even if they're not really getting any more of my dosh because the games are all second hand. It's the principle!!
Dosh? ???
Moolah.
Didn't you just buy the 360 version of ACM though?
Yeah for about $5 or something. 'Cos my PC is too shithouse to play it on a decent resolution.
But do you ever play it?
I played it through once. Being able to read the names on the lockers on the Sulaco properly was novel. If I was ever moved to make a proper marine complement list, that is.
Quote from: SM on May 30, 2018, 07:35:20 AM
I played it through once. Being able to read the names on the lockers on the Sulaco properly was novel. If I was ever moved to make a proper marine complement list, that is.
Any nitpicks?
Quote from: Xenomrph on May 30, 2018, 01:32:48 AM
Holy shit, something that SM and I agree on. ;D
Grand. Unification. Project.
Quote from: SM on May 30, 2018, 12:09:53 AM
I'm glad to hear I'm not the only one that petty. ;D
I've seen the Borderlands games in 360 bargain bins - and I've heard they're pretty decent - but Gearbox isn't getting any more of my dosh. Even if they're not really getting any more of my dosh because the games are all second hand. It's the principle!!
I prefer to think of it as principled rather than petty but yeah...I refuse to give them anything after that.
But you want Homeworld. Why punish yourself?
Ha. I'm not devoid of stuff to do, I'll be fine.
Do you have a huge backlog of games like I do?
Games, books, films, tv. It's a never ending battle.
Quote from: Corporal Hicks on May 30, 2018, 11:18:45 AM
Games, books, films, tv. It's a never ending battle.
Preach!
Quote from: Corporal Hicks on May 30, 2018, 11:18:45 AM
Games, books, films, tv. It's a never ending battle.
Amen to that. I've put an embargo on myself from buying any new comics, novels, movies, or games until I make progress through my backlog.
Quote from: Xenomrph on May 30, 2018, 06:14:07 PM
Quote from: Corporal Hicks on May 30, 2018, 11:18:45 AM
Games, books, films, tv. It's a never ending battle.
Amen to that. I've put an embargo on myself from buying any new comics, novels, movies, or games until I make progress through my backlog.
I've tried it, believe me it doesn't work. :) Besides, there's something beautiful about a giant stack of shite to enjoy. That's why we work hard.
As for the borderlands games, I felt the same way after A:CM. But then I bit the bullet and bought the ps3 collection, and was instantly rewarded. Unbelievably fun games. I'm not even kidding. The best part of it was that all the games were playable splitscreen and offline, so my cousin and I were able to enjoy them together. We were working our way through those games side by side for months, and I mean months. Tons of content. I understand the reason for boycotting, but I'll never do it. It's just too easy to miss out on a good thing, and boy did I almost with borderlands.
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I didn't even downloaded Borderlands 2 when it was for free on xbox360's games with gold. I might have reached the level where I won't play Gearbox's games even for free.
Now that's some commitment.
Quote from: SM on May 31, 2018, 12:21:10 AM
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What can I say, I like to live dangerously.
I think SM needs Borderlands 1 and 2.
Quote from: Local Trouble on May 31, 2018, 02:48:07 AM
I think SM needs Borderlands 1 and 2.
The Triple Pack. It's got the pre-sequel too and all the extra content for all 3 games. Best $20 I spent last year.
And don't let him fool you. He's probably gunzerking as we speak. :D
I wonder how much of that $20 goes into Randy's pockets.
Quote from: Local Trouble on May 31, 2018, 03:17:12 AM
I wonder how much of that $20 goes into Randy's pockets.
None, I'm guessing. Seeing as how it was a private sale. Of course, if he can find the guy who sold it to me, he's welcome to ask for a cut. ;)
Quote from: Xenomrph on May 30, 2018, 06:14:07 PM
Quote from: Corporal Hicks on May 30, 2018, 11:18:45 AM
Games, books, films, tv. It's a never ending battle.
Amen to that. I've put an embargo on myself from buying any new comics, novels, movies, or games until I make progress through my backlog.
How's that working out for you?
Quote from: Local Trouble on May 31, 2018, 03:36:53 AM
Quote from: Xenomrph on May 30, 2018, 06:14:07 PM
Quote from: Corporal Hicks on May 30, 2018, 11:18:45 AM
Games, books, films, tv. It's a never ending battle.
Amen to that. I've put an embargo on myself from buying any new comics, novels, movies, or games until I make progress through my backlog.
How's that working out for you?
So far.... pretty good. It's been putting more money in my pocket as I'm not just buying any book/movie/game that passes my eye because it's a "good deal", and I've been chipping away at my backlog and making a concerted effort to actually enjoy the stuff I've bought but has been sitting on my shelves for forever.
Quote from: Huggs on May 30, 2018, 11:34:55 PM
Quote from: Xenomrph on May 30, 2018, 06:14:07 PM
Quote from: Corporal Hicks on May 30, 2018, 11:18:45 AM
Games, books, films, tv. It's a never ending battle.
Amen to that. I've put an embargo on myself from buying any new comics, novels, movies, or games until I make progress through my backlog.
I've tried it, believe me it doesn't work. :) Besides, there's something beautiful about a giant stack of shite to enjoy. That's why we work hard.
As for the borderlands games, I felt the same way after A:CM. But then I bit the bullet and bought the ps3 collection, and was instantly rewarded. Unbelievably fun games. I'm not even kidding. The best part of it was that all the games were playable splitscreen and offline, so my cousin and I were able to enjoy them together. We were working our way through those games side by side for months, and I mean months. Tons of content. I understand the reason for boycotting, but I'll never do it. It's just too easy to miss out on a good thing, and boy did I almost with borderlands.
It's easy for me to skip the Borderlands games because they're just not my kind of game - I'm not really a fan of "loot" based games where you're just battling enemies so you can get better loot which you use to battle stronger enemies so that you can get better loot. Stuff like Diablo, Borderlands, The Division, Destiny, etc.
Quote from: Xenomrph on May 31, 2018, 05:56:02 AM
So far.... pretty good. It's been putting more money in my pocket as I'm not just buying any book/movie/game that passes my eye because it's a "good deal", and I've been chipping away at my backlog and making a concerted effort to actually enjoy the stuff I've bought but has been sitting on my shelves for forever.
But surely you've been tempted.
Quote from: Local Trouble on Jun 01, 2018, 02:00:13 AM
Quote from: Xenomrph on May 31, 2018, 05:56:02 AM
So far.... pretty good. It's been putting more money in my pocket as I'm not just buying any book/movie/game that passes my eye because it's a "good deal", and I've been chipping away at my backlog and making a concerted effort to actually enjoy the stuff I've bought but has been sitting on my shelves for forever.
But surely you've been tempted.
Oh you'd better believe it :D
You only live once.
Borderlands is useless if you play alone. Didn't even finish the first title, totally skipped the second. I do like the art style, just not a fan of the gameplay itself.
For a game that started way more serious, I am kind of curious what it could be if the rendering was more realistic and the fun being toned down, but it seems Rage 2 will provide plenty.
Not touching anything Gearbox themselves make anymore though.
What if Randy left Gearbox?
I do believe the damage has already been done.
The Gearbox game I enjoyed the most was actually Half Life: Opposing Force. It was heavily influenced by Aliens and Predator. It came out in 1999 and was probably made by different people though.
Randy is a strange bird.
His whole thing with the 2001 build of DNF as of late has pretty much once and for all shown his true colors. He wants to call people like Charlie Wiederhold (Who worked on DNF 2001, AND Colonial Marines) liars, but then basically say his hands are tied.
What he really means is he won't push to have anything released relating to the 01 build until he can make sure there's cash in it for him.
I'd love for someone to take that youtube video of him saying that they weren't going to settle on Colonial Marines in terms of quality and mash it up with the "Y'know it's like a 7/10 game." Just loop it. And then send it to him. You're a charlatan and a liar, Randy. You're also taking every wrong turn with public relations and game development.
His intentions with the Duke Nukem character have also basically made me have to surrender my fandom for that franchise and character. I love Duke Nukem.... But the people in charge now want to screw him up so bad.
Opposing Force, Blue Shift, and maybe halfway Borderlands 2 are the only good games Gearbox ever made, and those first two were on the coat tails of the giants at Valve.
Quote from: OpenMaw on Jun 03, 2018, 09:21:01 PM
Randy is a strange bird.
His whole thing with the 2001 build of DNF as of late has pretty much once and for all shown his true colors. He wants to call people like Charlie Wiederhold (Who worked on DNF 2001, AND Colonial Marines) liars, but then basically say his hands are tied.
What he really means is he won't push to have anything released relating to the 01 build until he can make sure there's cash in it for him.
I'd love for someone to take that youtube video of him saying that they weren't going to settle on Colonial Marines in terms of quality and mash it up with the "Y'know it's like a 7/10 game." Just loop it. And then send it to him. You're a charlatan and a liar, Randy. You're also taking every wrong turn with public relations and game development.
His intentions with the Duke Nukem character have also basically made me have to surrender my fandom for that franchise and character. I love Duke Nukem.... But the people in charge now want to screw him up so bad.
Opposing Force, Blue Shift, and maybe halfway Borderlands 2 are the only good games Gearbox ever made, and those first two were on the coat tails of the giants at Valve.
Something we entirely agree with, but don't forget taking money meant for ACM and funnelling it into Borderlands.
Quote from: OpenMaw on Jun 03, 2018, 09:21:01 PM
Opposing Force, Blue Shift, and maybe halfway Borderlands 2 are the only good games Gearbox ever made, and those first two were on the coat tails of the giants at Valve.
The Brothers in Arms series is fantastic.
Is that part of your backlog?
Quote from: Xenomrph on Jun 04, 2018, 07:40:53 AM
The Brothers in Arms series is fantastic.
They're okay. They're like the cannon film knock off of a popular series.
The PC versions also, were pretty awful, and the last time I tried to run them, they simply refused to run at all, and from what I recall nobody had a fix to get them to work on modern operating systems. Considering they weren't that old that didn't exactly impress me.
Point is, Gearbox is incredibly caustic, and one of the biggest reasons is Randy Effin Pitchford.
Amen.
Quote from: Local Trouble on Jun 04, 2018, 10:11:30 PM
Is that part of your backlog?
No, I've played them.
Quote from: OpenMaw on Jun 05, 2018, 01:05:23 AM
Quote from: Xenomrph on Jun 04, 2018, 07:40:53 AM
The Brothers in Arms series is fantastic.
Point is, Gearbox is incredibly caustic, and one of the biggest reasons is Randy Effin Pitchford.
No disagreement there.
Quote from: Xenomrph on Jun 10, 2018, 06:16:13 AM
Quote from: Local Trouble on Jun 04, 2018, 10:11:30 PM
Is that part of your backlog?
No, I've played them.
How long until you're all caught up? There are so many good deals out there just waiting for your money.
Has Randy said anything about a graphics patch to upgrade A:CM to 16bit yet?
Quote from: Local Trouble on Jun 10, 2018, 12:13:24 PM
Quote from: Xenomrph on Jun 10, 2018, 06:16:13 AM
Quote from: Local Trouble on Jun 04, 2018, 10:11:30 PM
Is that part of your backlog?
No, I've played them.
How long until you're all caught up? There are so many good deals out there just waiting for your money.
Eh, I'm caught up when I feel like it. :)
Good. I think there's a new Warhammer 40k game out there that needs some attention...
Quote from: Local Trouble on Jun 11, 2018, 01:41:28 PM
Good. I think there's a new Warhammer 40k game out there that needs some attention...
Are you hinting at something, LT? :laugh:
Our economy depends on consumers like Xenomrph continuing to spend. :)
Nah, I only get PC games on sale anyway. :P
Only PC games?
I only pay full price for console games if it's for a franchise I really like (Doom, Wolfenstein, Alien/Predator... and that's about it, really), anything else I'll wait for a sale.
What console(s) do you have?
Modern consoles? An Xbox One, a PS3, and an Xbox 360.
Retro consoles? Atari 2600, Atari Jaguar, NES, SNES, N64, Wii, Sega Genesis (with Sega CD and Sega 32X add-ons), Sega Saturn, Sega Dreamcast, and original Xbox. Oh and the Wii can play Gamecube games, and the PS3 can play PS2 and PS1 games
Hey, you asked. :P
Quote from: Xenomrph on Jun 14, 2018, 01:23:11 AM
Modern consoles? An Xbox One, a PS3, and an Xbox 360.
Retro consoles? Atari 2600, Atari Jaguar, NES, SNES, N64, Wii, Sega Genesis (with Sega CD and Sega 32X add-ons), Sega Saturn, Sega Dreamcast, and original Xbox. Oh and the Wii can play Gamecube games, and the PS3 can play PS2 and PS1 games
Hey, you asked. :P
Now that's a lot.
Quote from: Samhain13 on Jun 14, 2018, 09:28:04 PM
Quote from: Xenomrph on Jun 14, 2018, 01:23:11 AM
Modern consoles? An Xbox One, a PS3, and an Xbox 360.
Retro consoles? Atari 2600, Atari Jaguar, NES, SNES, N64, Wii, Sega Genesis (with Sega CD and Sega 32X add-ons), Sega Saturn, Sega Dreamcast, and original Xbox. Oh and the Wii can play Gamecube games, and the PS3 can play PS2 and PS1 games
Hey, you asked. :P
Now that's a lot.
I dove down the "retro consoles" rabbit hole a couple years ago. Not only are all of those connected to my TV at the same time, but they're all running on their best possible video output (RGB SCART via an upscaler for a bunch, component, VGA, or HDMI for the others), and they're all connected through several switchboxes so that all I need to do is turn the console on and it instantly displays on the TV - no unplugging or reconnecting anything required. Best of all, the cables are all hidden behind the TV and entertainment center so that it doesn't look like an insane jumble of cables and wires all over the place.
Oh and the NES, Genesis, and N64 each have an Everdrive flash cart with every game ever made for their respective consoles loaded on them.
I've sunk a pretty penny into the setup, but I'm really pleased with how it's turned out.
You still need a PS4, a Switch and TurboGrafx-16.
I'm real tempted by the PS4, they have a bunch of exclusives I'd love to play.
As for other retro stuff, I've considered the Turbographx-16, NeoGeo, or 3DO but aside from being expensive, there aren't a lot of games I'd want for them.
I really like my Xbox One X. Everything runs better on it.
You really ought to spend more money. ;D
Quote from: Local Trouble on Jun 15, 2018, 06:52:53 PM
I really like my Xbox One X. Everything runs better on it.
You really ought to spend more money. ;D
The only thing keeping me from buying a xbox one is my crappy backwoods internet. One of my coworkers owns one and told me you have to do some big download right outta the box and then the console has to stay connected to the internet or you can't play anything on it.
God I miss my N64. So many good memories. Sold it, my NES, genesis, all the games, my old 20 gauge and my revolver to help manage the medical bills and gasoline costs when my mother had a cancer scare about 8 years back and work was scarce. Thank the lord it was a false alarm. I still dream about that old console to this day. It's just too damn expensive to get back into that arena now.
At least there are emulators. They really need to re-release those old games as a collection or something.
Quote from: Huggs on Jun 15, 2018, 08:14:44 PM
The only thing keeping me from buying a xbox one is my crappy backwoods internet. One of my coworkers owns one and told me you have to do some big download right outta the box and then the console has to stay connected to the internet or you can't play anything on it.
Bolded part hasn't been true since before the system was released.
However, I'm pretty sure all modern systems have huge updates from time to time. Unless you have a data cap, it's not an issue.
Quote from: Local Trouble on Jun 15, 2018, 10:04:53 PM
Quote from: Huggs on Jun 15, 2018, 08:14:44 PM
The only thing keeping me from buying a xbox one is my crappy backwoods internet. One of my coworkers owns one and told me you have to do some big download right outta the box and then the console has to stay connected to the internet or you can't play anything on it.
Bolded part hasn't been true since before the system was released.
However, I'm pretty sure all modern systems have huge updates from time to time. Unless you have a data cap, it's not an issue.
I max out at 10 gigs a month, but it would take me probably 20 hours to use that up if I was going wild. I'm out in the backwoods. So internet options suck out here.Thanks for the heads up about the staying connected part though LT.
Yeah, the updates can be pretty huge. A buddy of mine lives in a rural area too so he brought his Xbox over to my place just so he could connect to my router and download all of the updates for his system and games.
Quote from: Huggs on Jun 15, 2018, 08:14:44 PM
God I miss my N64.[...]I still dream about that old console to this day. It's just too damn expensive to get back into that arena now.
The N64 isn't that expensive to get back into, provided you don't care about the picture quality. A cursory ebay search shows that you can get an N64 with composite video cables for $50 or less, and the price goes up a little bit if you throw in a controller.
Rather than pay crazy secondary market prices for rare games, drop $100 and get an Everdrive64 (https://krikzz.com/store/home/30-everdrive-64-v25.html), a flash cart that can hold every N64 game ever made (plus homebrew stuff, fan translations, etc).
I say "if you don't care about picture quality" (....and this is where the rabbit hole begins....) because modern HDTVs don't know how to properly interpret old video game outputs, since those consoles were never meant to be played on something at such a high resolution. The only common standard that an N64 will output at that a modern TV can understand is composite (those yellow/red/white cables), and the TV is going to try and upscale that picture to 1080p or whatever your TV displays at and it's going to look like blurry, washed-out garbage. For some people that's fine, but if you find yourself saying "this looks way worse than I remember", that's why.
If picture quality matters to you, there's two solutions - either hook the N64 up to an old-school CRT television, or go down the rabbit hole like I did and look into upscalers, converters, specialty cables, and all kinds of shit that gets real expensive, real fast. :P
I've been considering upgrading to an XBox One X, but I don't have a 4K TV so I don't think I'd be able to take full advantage of it.
Quote from: Xenomrph on Jun 16, 2018, 01:48:02 AM
Quote from: Huggs on Jun 15, 2018, 08:14:44 PM
God I miss my N64.[...]I still dream about that old console to this day. It's just too damn expensive to get back into that arena now.
The N64 isn't that expensive to get back into, provided you don't care about the picture quality.
Thanks for the info. I suppose it's best left behind though. Believe me, to recoup what I let go of would run me...way up there. Especially now that rarity has kicked in. I can still enjoy the old games on emulators so I'm good. I'm a minimalist anyway and all I've got left is my ps3, and as much as I hate to say it, I think it's the last console I'll own. I get the itch every now and then, but life and all of it's responsibilities have a good hold on this fella's time and money. A ps4 and a game or two sounds great, but then gain so does $400 still in the bank.
Quote from: Xenomrph on Jun 16, 2018, 01:48:02 AMor go down the rabbit hole like I did and look into upscalers, converters, specialty cables, and all kinds of shit that gets real expensive, real fast. :P
Atta boy! ;D
Quote from: Xenomrph on Jun 16, 2018, 01:48:02 AM
I've been considering upgrading to an XBox One X, but I don't have a 4K TV so I don't think I'd be able to take full advantage of it.
I don't have a 4k TV either (yet), but I like that the frame rates are a lot smoother. Hell, even the original KOTOR for the original Xbox has been enhanced for the Xbox One X.
And just to veer back on topic, ACM could be made playable on the Xbox One if the devs would work on it.
Gearbox were such a disappointment for myself in the PS3/360 era.
I'd loved the 2 Brothers In Arms games on the classic Xbox..
But Hells Highway on PS3 was simply dire, the A.I routines alone seemed like a massive step back.
A fourth installment was canned:
https://www.unseen64.net/2015/09/07/brothers-in-arms-furious-4-cancelled-ps3-xbox-360-pc/
As for Duke Nukem Forever and Aliens:C.M..
I will let them fester on the manure heap where they belong.
Every commercial game has deadlines set by a publisher, faked footage and screenshots have been a common factor in games development for as long as i can remember, but my God C.M ran that hype train.
I still have the copies of the official PS3 and Xbox 360 magazines which previewed it, cover features, big page spreads on the game, interviews galore promising it was going to do the films and fans justice.
If you walk dog sh#t into the house and onto the carpet, even though you smelt something funny coming up the path, but didn't take your shoes off outside the front door, is it the dogs fault or yours?
Sorry Randy, but you were bloody happy to hype the backside off this at preview, you have to accept responsibility for the final product.
That. Two years before launch, when they still went for some hyperrealism but with weird looking alien models, they started bragging that they had contact with Kodak in order to have the same color grading.
I've been following the development really closely, but it is amazing how they pulled an inverse of the Killzone 2 promotion and instead of actually damn near matching the used pre rendered teaser trailer they simply got worse and worse...
Gearbox CEO Randy Pitchford allegedly scammed out of nearly $3 million by former personal assistant (https://www.pcgamer.com/uk/gearbox-ceo-randy-pitchford-allegedly-scammed-out-of-nearly-dollar3-million-by-former-personal-assistant/)
Don't you feel bad for him now?
Congratulations PA.
Quote from: Local Trouble on Oct 02, 2018, 10:03:23 AM
Don't you feel bad for him now?
Nah. He still got most of that back. He and Gearbox robbed much mullah from the fandom and Sega so...no sympathy.
Shouldn't we set up a GoFundMe to help him recoup his losses?
As the Moderator stated, Randy Pitchford is no victim.
Your anger makes you powerful.
"Hate is a gift." - Chris Avellone
Quote from: Local Trouble on Oct 02, 2018, 10:39:47 AM
Shouldn't we set up a GoFundMe to help him recoup his losses?
I didn't know you could do that for things like "respect" and "trust".
(https://media.makeameme.org/created/zing-01wf5r.jpg)
If Corporal Hicks ever interviewed Randy, I imagine him doing this instead of asking any questions...
(https://i.imgur.com/tnLiFNO.gif)
Or maybe he would bring out the re-educating metal pipe.
Spare the pipe, spoil the Randy?
Quote from: The Cruentus on Oct 03, 2018, 09:05:57 AM
Or maybe he would bring out the re-educating metal pipe.
I believe it was a piece of rebar, with some meat on the end of it. Alittle something left over from Junior. ;)
He should give it a name: James Rebar.
Man f*ck that guy and Sega. I was so hyped for this game for a LONG time, always keeping up with any updates. That "finished gameplay" footage was totally badass but it was also a complete lie. Randy is the biggest slime.
Hopefully one day we get a good Aliens game.
Have you no forgiveness in your heart?
Not for Colonial Marines. That can never be forgiven. It's a serious taint on the franchise.
How hard can it be to make a good Aliens game? All the mechanics are there from the movies and older games!
Like anime unforgivable? :o
https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/ThisIsUnforgivable
Biblical unforgivable.
God forgives, James Rebar sorts em' out.
Maybe Randy should stop by Fury 161 - they tolerate everybody, even the intolerable.
Does their vow of celibacy also include Randy?
Quote from: Huggs on Oct 08, 2018, 12:43:37 AM
God forgives, James Rebar sorts em' out.
I don't think we will be able to re-educate them, too far gone. :laugh:
Quote from: Local Trouble on Oct 08, 2018, 09:04:51 AM
Does their vow of celibacy also include Randy?
If that means he doesn't reproduce and pollute the gene pool, then I certainly hope so.
Quote from: Xenomrph on Oct 08, 2018, 08:43:18 PM
Quote from: Local Trouble on Oct 08, 2018, 09:04:51 AM
Does their vow of celibacy also include Randy?
If that means he doesn't reproduce and pollute the gene pool, then I certainly hope so.
I don't think that can happen either way.
Quote from: Local Trouble on Oct 08, 2018, 09:04:51 AM
Does their vow of celibacy also include Randy?
Not if Frank has anything to say about it. ;D
I didn't realize that Randy was Frank's type.
Randy Pitchford doesn't deserve to get treated like a Queen tho.
:laugh:
I wonder if Dillon would save him.
Those comments or the article... THESE comments... So much hate, glorious hate. And he deserves it.
Love the fact that no one forgets what he did. How he monumentally screwed us all and buried the "Aliens" franchise, videogame wise.
We won't see another Aliens game for a long time thanks to this POS.
Quote from: Hemi on Oct 15, 2018, 02:06:22 PM
Those comments or the article... THESE comments... So much hate, glorious hate. And he deserves it.
Love the fact that no one forgets what he did. How he monumentally screwed us all and buried the "Aliens" franchise, videogame wise.
We won't see another Aliens game for a long time thanks to this POS.
Ahem.
http://coldironstudios.com/
(https://i.imgur.com/V4NkPo0.png)
And we had Isolation the year after.
I think he is referring to an ALIENS game not ALIEN, as the colonial marine first person shooter. Anyway in the cold iron site, they are calling the next game a shooter, so it might have the marines back. This concept is hard to kill. We will have more eventually.
Quote from: Samhain13 on Oct 15, 2018, 08:40:53 PM
I think he is referring to an ALIENS game not ALIEN, as the colonial marine first person shooter. Anyway in the cold iron site, they are calling the next game a shooter, so it might have the marines back. This concept is hard to kill. We will have more eventually.
Thank you. Isolation was an Alien game.
ALIENS..with an S as in $ lol. (though is it these days?)
Colonial marines kicking ass with pulse rifles, FPS. I don't see it happening thanks to ACM. And sometimes I wonder if the format FPS shoot everything with huge guns even works for an Aliens game. Maybe we should divert to an Isolation gametype. Or yunno...JUST DO IT LIKE KILLING FLOOR ALREADY!!!
And that hire page has been up a tad too long if you ask me...
Game development can often take a long time, see;
Dragon Age Origins
Morrowind
L.A. Noire
Neverwinter Nights
Black And White
Fable
Prey
SC: Conviction
Resident Evil 4
HL2 &TF2
RDR 2 & BGE 2
Cyberpunk 2077
The hiring page still being up means precisely nothing for a small studio transitioning
into making a game for a large IP which had good recent success in the videogame industry.
Duke Nukem Forever.
I just don't see an "ACM done right" happening for a long time. A survival horror version. Possibly yes.
Yes & ACM itself.
Cold Iron's Alien game was announced May of this year, it still has a long way to go
And a helluva lot longer before it qualifies for development hell.
Alien should be survival horror, period.
Aliens should also be that and a tactical squad based FPS.
Maybe someday Randy will get another chance at the franchise.
No thank you.
But maybe ACM was a good learning experience for him.
Quote from: Local Trouble on Oct 16, 2018, 11:51:43 AM
Maybe someday Randy will get another chance at the franchise.
Quote from: Local Trouble on Oct 16, 2018, 12:25:31 PM
But maybe ACM was a good learning experience for him.
You'd hope so. So he doesn't get caught lying a hundred times again.
Quote from: Local Trouble on Oct 16, 2018, 12:25:31 PM
But maybe ACM was a good learning experience for him.
We'd need an indication that he learned anything, though.
If I'm being genuine here, if he somehow got the reins for another Aliens project, I'd be less than amused but in the end I'd probably buy it because that's the kind of Alien fan I am. I've bought enough stuff that's *way* worse than Colonial Marines, and I got enough genuine enjoyment out of Colonial Marines, that if I kept my expectations rock-bottom I'd probably have fun with Colonial Marines 2. And there's a ton of fans, casual or otherwise, who will flock like a moth to the flame whether they choose to publicly acknowledge it or not. Colonial Marines was still a financial success.
And that's what happens with, like, any AAA video game release. I can't think of the last time a AAA game did poorly unless it *REALLY* f**ked up and screwed its player base.
I am part of the problem. :P
Does this mean you're buying new games again? Did you catch up with your backlog?
Quote from: Local Trouble on Oct 19, 2018, 12:18:49 PM
Does this mean you're buying new games again? Did you catch up with your backlog?
I make special exceptions for certain franchise titles.
But no, the backlog is never ending. :(
Quote from: Xenomrph on Oct 19, 2018, 03:29:32 PM
the backlog is never ending. :(
A good backlog never does.
How's yours?
Quote from: Local Trouble on Oct 19, 2018, 09:01:14 PM
How's yours?
Alittle on the slim side at the moment. My mechanic's had nothing but bad news for me lately, so yeah. Times are tight.
You could probably pick up the Borderlands games on the cheap.
Quote from: Local Trouble on Oct 22, 2018, 12:02:01 AM
You could probably pick up the Borderlands games on the cheap.
Already got the triple pack on ps3. Love em.
Just because somebody screws up and says it's turkey when it's actually ham, doesn't mean I won't eat the sandwich. I just won't trust them to make my turkey sandwiches anymore.
Quote from: Local Trouble on Oct 22, 2018, 12:02:01 AM
You could probably pick up the Borderlands games on the cheap.
Stop peddling their disgusting wares!
Quote from: Huggs on Oct 22, 2018, 01:12:26 AM
Quote from: Local Trouble on Oct 22, 2018, 12:02:01 AM
You could probably pick up the Borderlands games on the cheap.
Already got the triple pack on ps3. Love em.
Just because somebody screws up and says it's turkey when it's actually ham, doesn't mean I won't eat the sandwich. I just won't trust them to make my turkey sandwiches anymore.
What about if they say it's turkey but it's really poos?
Quote from: Corporal Hicks on Oct 22, 2018, 08:46:04 AM
Quote from: Local Trouble on Oct 22, 2018, 12:02:01 AM
You could probably pick up the Borderlands games on the cheap.
Stop peddling their disgusting wares!
Did you read this article about Randy?
https://www.vg247.com/2018/10/11/randy-pitchford-gearbox-borderlands-3-profile/ (https://www.vg247.com/2018/10/11/randy-pitchford-gearbox-borderlands-3-profile/)
He sounds quite talented at making things disappear.
Makes sense that he'd be involved with illusion and magic.
Does that mean you have a newfound respect for him?
Quote from: Local Trouble on Oct 22, 2018, 11:39:19 AM
He sounds quite talented at making things disappear.
Do potential customers count?
Look what's on sale this week...
https://marketplace.xbox.com/en-US/Product/Aliens-Colonial-Marines/66acd000-77fe-1000-9115-d8025345080c
Quote from: Local Trouble on Oct 22, 2018, 07:33:25 PM
Does that mean you have a newfound respect for him?
(https://media.tenor.com/images/0ccf9abe20d41e15743977d85547a65e/tenor.gif)
Never.
Look at what's on sale this week.
https://www.xbox.com/en-US/live/deals-with-gold
I was a pre-order victim of A:CM for the xbox, just this month I ended up buying the collection with all the DLC during a steam sale for $7, Bug Hunt being the only reason, had fun with that.
But like some of you, I'll never buy anything Gearbox publish and any devs that decide to have Gearbox publish their stuff should be fkn ashamed of themselves, I won't buy their stuff either.
Quote from: WhiteKnight on Feb 17, 2019, 01:46:50 PM
I was a pre-order victim of A:CM for the xbox, just this month I ended up buying the collection with all the DLC during a steam sale for $7, Bug Hunt being the only reason, had fun with that.
But like some of you, I'll never buy anything Gearbox publish and any devs that decide to have Gearbox publish their stuff should be fkn ashamed of themselves, I won't buy their stuff either.
What?? In the first sentence you admit that you bought the A:CM collection... ???
I should imagine he means future releases after he was burned by ACM.
Yet he bought the entire A:CM collection this month. That's not how a boycott works.
Gearbox still made money off him now. ::)
Randy appreciates his support.
I wonder what Randy will use those 7 dollars on.
Quote from: Samhain13 on Feb 19, 2019, 02:42:40 AM
I wonder what Randy will use those 7 dollars on.
Magic tricks. ;D
I paid over $100 for the pre-order package, refunded it, and years later got the whole lot for $7. I consider it a 'Randy the C***' discount for my disappointment all those years ago.
Otherwise I don't Gearbox developed or published stuff, and their Battleborn game failed to take off so that makes me happy.
Ellis, you shouldn't be doing this.
(https://media1.tenor.com/images/2b02356b0674d347c90f967da4776620/tenor.gif?itemid=7322878)
RANDY. BUBBIE... I'M YOUR WHITE KNIGHT!
Quote from: P-Rock on Feb 18, 2019, 10:18:58 PM
Yet he bought the entire A:CM collection this month. That's not how a boycott works.
Gearbox still made money off him now. ::)
Ah, missed that.
Just wait until a 60fps@4k remastered edition is released on the next generation of consoles. You will all buy it.
Negative.
At full price.
Look if you have the license for anything I don't care if it's Independence Day or Aliens you do justice to that license or you shouldn't have done it in the first place. Gearbox isn't worth the time anyway tbh because even borderlands has some of the same problems I've seen in ACM (Bad loading Textures for example)