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Just after the New Year, Neill Blomkamp of District 9 and Elysium fame revealed he’d been toying with his own Alien 5 project. Speaking about it recently he confirmed that there was some serious interest in creating the film. Recently Tom and David Woodruff (father and son), of Studio ADI and Generation Effects respectively, posted up their practical take on one of the concepts Neill posted:

Anyone who recognizes the name Woodruff will know that Tom Woodruff together with Alec Gillis, their company Studio ADI has produced the creature effects for all the Alien films since Alien 3. TheTerminatorFans spoke to David about putting the test together (including some extra photos), his opinions on moving the franchise forward and the possibility of AvP3 and Neill’s Alien 5:

“I haven't heard anything about a 3rd installment, not even rumors. This Neill Blomkamp project is the first possibility I've seen or heard of of another Alien film and I'm all about it. I know the guys at Amalgamated Dynamics are pushing for something like this too. It's time.”

Make sure you check out the entire interview!

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Some new quotes:

http://www.theguardian.com/film/2015/feb/13/sigourney-weaver-keen-to-reprise-alien-role-once-more (http://www.theguardian.com/film/2015/feb/13/sigourney-weaver-keen-to-reprise-alien-role-once-more)

Tom definitely looks like he's aged quite a bit from when I met him at Monstermania 2007. The years are definitely getting on him. A really cool guy and you can tell that he has a lot of enthusiasm for the franchise-- even the AvP's from what I remember of the discussions I had with him. But it's interesting to see him address the questions regarding Alien 5 and AvP 3.

Quote from: Xenomorphine on Feb 13, 2015, 10:46:07 PM
Some new quotes:

http://www.theguardian.com/film/2015/feb/13/sigourney-weaver-keen-to-reprise-alien-role-once-more (http://www.theguardian.com/film/2015/feb/13/sigourney-weaver-keen-to-reprise-alien-role-once-more)

Give me chance!

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Quote from: RakaiThwei on Feb 13, 2015, 10:47:00 PM
But it's interesting to see him address the questions regarding Alien 5 and AvP 3.

It's his son, David, they're talking to.

I wonder why everyone keeps calling it original Hicks armor. It clearly says Wierzbowski on it (it's still an original from the movie, though).

Chiming in with the obligatory "i hope the xenos are more biomechanical!" post.

Hmmm....did Hicks look that damaged in Aliens?(or the smartass answer shows the hamburger face from A3 lol). I'll have to look again. It looks sweet though.

I'm hoping that Fox will make Alien 5 happen if Prometheus 2 is not going to happen anytime soon. I think more people will watch a new Alien sequel then another Prometheus film. Besides it been 17 and half years since the last movie. Enough time has past for a new movie.

Quote from: razeak on Feb 14, 2015, 04:03:56 AM
Hmmm....did Hicks look that damaged in Aliens?(or the smartass answer shows the hamburger face from A3 lol). I'll have to look again. It looks sweet though.

Doesn't look like it.

Tom and Alec appear to be lovely guys, & some if there work is tremendous. But if they're anywhere near Alien 5 I'll be so disheartened. The thought of Tom in an Alien suit again is a grim prospect. And they're work on Resurrection through to Avp2, animatronics aside, is absolutely terrible.

Quote from: SuicideDoors on Feb 14, 2015, 05:32:55 AM
Tom and Alec appear to be lovely guys, & some if there work is tremendous. But if they're anywhere near Alien 5 I'll be so disheartened. The thought of Tom in an Alien suit again is a grim prospect. And they're work on Resurrection through to Avp2, animatronics aside, is absolutely terrible.

Effects wise their work on Alien resurrection and AvP was very good.  AvPR was terrible but that was mainly due to the directors having bad taste and making ADI create terrible designs.

Quote from: SuicideDoors on Feb 14, 2015, 05:32:55 AM
Tom and Alec appear to be lovely guys, & some if there work is tremendous. But if they're anywhere near Alien 5 I'll be so disheartened. The thought of Tom in an Alien suit again is a grim prospect. And they're work on Resurrection through to Avp2, animatronics aside, is absolutely terrible.

After seeing their work for 'The Thing', all is completely forgiven. It's a real shame that so much of it was heavily replaced with relatively hurried CGI. They came up with some completely amazing stuff.

If they had a decent budget and were given clear ideas of what to do, they could probably redeem themselves completely for this fandom, IMO. So, if they had less restrictions, I actually wouldn't mind them being included for it.

In all honesty, considering the director now claiming that Fox wants his prospective project to go ahead and that Weaver is on board as at least interested, it looks like there's every chance that this could happen. After 'Elysium', I'm not at all sure he's the right guy for it and we know absolutely nothing about the story, so... I still don't know what to think. But it seems like it could well be a reality.

Why is he shooting at The Blob?

I wonder what ADI would give us if the director told them he wanted a slavishly accurate re-creation of the original alien. 

They would have given him a slavishly accurate re-creation if the original Alien. With better suit materials.

hey stop talking trash about our actors and talent because of their age. These people have poured hours you couldnt imagine nor persevere through to help you enjoy your favorite movie. How many times have us geeks been through a shit day and come home to a nice smoke and escape via AL(l)EN 1 or any of the AL(I)ENS/PRED/_\TOR franchise. I think being older is sexy as is being younger. Imagine being married til your 70's if you can use a pill and get it up will you still give your woman.husband some good lovin? I will and plan to lay pipe with one hand and pills in the other to keep it up. :) AL(l)VE at all cost

If Arnold comes back to the AVP franchise it would be cool to base it off the AVP arcade game. I for one couldnt wait to see earth as it is portrayed in the graphic novels and such (avp war, aliens genocide etc)....consider this. what is aliens without ripley? what is predator without arnold and danny?

Why are the directors such poopy heads then?\\

And when are we gonna see Dredd 2?

To be fair, the design in Res makes sense given the direction the story went in. The Res design makes much less sense when it is simply recolored for AVP.

I'm not surprise Fox does not want to do another AVP movie when the second movie left a bad taste in people's mouth. I don't think we will see one until the next decade.

I'd be content never getting another one. Just let the two series be their own thing.

No, there needs to be another AVP movie and that one needs to show the aliens taking over the predator home world.

Fox is probably waiting enough time has pass for people to forget about the AVP films. It won't surprise me if they choose to reboot the AVP movies again in the next decade.

its been almost 10 years since avpr hasnt it? no thats the original. so probably about 4 years till we see anything on a possible avp reboot

Quote from: Nazrel on Feb 15, 2015, 02:43:06 AM
its been almost 10 years since avpr hasnt it? no thats the original. so probably about 4 years till we see anything on a possible avp reboot

A completely baseless assumption. Media is so transitory these days, it doesn't take more than a year or two for studios to make up their mind on where they'll take an IP. Just look at the Spiderman series.



I'm all for Blomkamps take on Alien. Bring Ripley and Hicks back, even.

ADI, they did alright with Alien 3. The core direction in A:R is what resulted in *creatively* poor realisations of the Alien. Having to keep a tight rope on the budget is what resulted in them being recycled in AvP and AvP : R. As others have said I think if they were given a clear and concise direction, they'd bring back the original flavor of the Alien.

ripley and hicks are over done. let them be.

I really hope they focus on script and story telling rather than cramming special effects in it like AvP(R), AvP and Alien Resurrection. All in all, I am hoping for a really out-of-site sequel :)

Quote from: Nazrel on Feb 15, 2015, 09:12:49 AM
ripley and hicks are over done. let them be.

You'll still have Alien 3.

Quote from: Nazrel on Feb 15, 2015, 09:12:49 AM
ripley and hicks are over done. let them be.

I'll be happy with having them brought back, or doing an all new group of characters, as long as it is well done. I trust that Blomkamp could pull off bringing those characters back if that was the direction Fox chose to go.

so many marvel films based on the comics ...how about avp films based on comics what you folks think

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6te3SBzDiUk (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6te3SBzDiUk)


how about making that eyeball burned with acid solid black? would be more creepy right? a cyber organic eye...."look into my eye" -APONE-

All ADI has to do is go to the wreckers and find some car parts to stick on their aliens. Presto, biomechanical aliens and budget effective.

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Tom Woodruff changed his Facebook profile picture.

Quote from: PsyKore on Feb 17, 2015, 01:27:20 PM
All ADI has to do is go to the wreckers and find some car parts to stick on their aliens. Presto, biomechanical aliens and budget effective.

I know you were just being witty, but I do think that's a little belittling to Giger's work on the original Alien.

Quote from: Corporal Hicks on Feb 20, 2015, 09:03:55 AM
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Tom Woodruff changed his Facebook profile picture.

Oh yeah. I like it.

I love these images. Good on Tom for having a bit of fun with it. He looks great in them too. I especially love the one that totally apes the concept picture Blomkamp released, where he's resting on his knees.

Biehn had better be careful or Tom will steal his role.

Well, he's desperate for the job.

Could you be any more bitter or resentful? Holy crap, man.  :laugh:

You know what? I thought the work they did on The Thing prequel was amazing, and it was sad that it was replaced by inferior CGI, but let's face it, jumping in to recreate Hicks smacks a little of desperation. If they get the gig, I hope they do a good job of getting the Giger look back because they certainly have the skill.

Quote from: Gash on Feb 20, 2015, 11:27:18 PM
because they certainly have the skill.

No they don't.

Quote from: whiterabbit on Feb 20, 2015, 11:29:09 PMNo they don't.

Alien 3 quite blatantly says they do.

And the faults with the later movies is more the actual designs rather than the execution, and we've no idea to what extent they had those dictated to them.

Quote from: HuDaFuK on Feb 20, 2015, 11:31:03 PM

Quote from: whiterabbit on Feb 20, 2015, 11:29:09 PMNo they don't.

Alien 3 quite blatantly says they do.

And the faults with the later movies is more the actual designs rather than the execution, and we've no idea to what extent they had those dictated to them.

:P

Sorry, I forgot the :P.

I would agree that in interviews ADI appeared to show scant regard for Giger's skill at creating his own design. Stating that they could do it better than he himself had. But hopefully they have to follow a director's instuctions, and if Blomkamp wanted something that looked as great as Giger's original then they would do it.

Personally I don't doubt their abilities because I thought the half-destroyed Bishop in Alien3 was amazing, as was their practical stuff for The Thing. But if they are directed badly or left to their own interpretations, especially with something as beautifully designed as Giger's alien, then they are often deserving of the flack they might get, though sharing blame with the director.

Quote from: Gash on Feb 20, 2015, 11:27:18 PM
You know what? I thought the work they did on The Thing prequel was amazing, and it was sad that it was replaced by inferior CGI, but let's face it, jumping in to recreate Hicks smacks a little of desperation. If they get the gig, I hope they do a good job of getting the Giger look back because they certainly have the skill.

I suppose it depends on the intention behind these images. If it was done simply because they thought the concept art was cool, then Hell, I don't see anything desperate about it at all.

Also I agree wholeheartedly with regards to The Thing prequel. Film had problems no matter what, but it's a damn shame all that hard work was literally covered up.

I hope they'll release a cut of that film with the practical effects reinstated.

Quote from: OpenMaw on Feb 20, 2015, 09:22:44 AM

Quote from: PsyKore on Feb 17, 2015, 01:27:20 PM
All ADI has to do is go to the wreckers and find some car parts to stick on their aliens. Presto, biomechanical aliens and budget effective.

I know you were just being witty, but I do think that's a little belittling to Giger's work on the original Alien.

Really? I thought I was poking fun at ADI.

Quote from: HuDaFuK on Feb 20, 2015, 11:31:03 PM

Quote from: whiterabbit on Feb 20, 2015, 11:29:09 PMNo they don't.

Alien 3 quite blatantly says they do.

And the faults with the later movies is more the actual designs rather than the execution, and we've no idea to what extent they had those dictated to them.

No, it doesn't. Woodruff and Gillis much like a certain director/producer who will remain unmentioned, do quite fine when they are reigned in and told in very exacting terms what is needed and what is not. When they're allowed to have free reign on "improving" already established designs, they suck gangrenous donkey balls. A:R was their show, and we got a fat albino hermaphrodite with scurvy and Giger's design turned into literal melted cheese.

No thanks.

Quote from: PsyKore on Feb 21, 2015, 05:53:12 AM
Really? I thought I was poking fun at ADI.

Ah, my mistake. I did not detect the sarcasm at play.  :)

Quote from: Xhan on Feb 21, 2015, 06:15:36 AM

Quote from: HuDaFuK on Feb 20, 2015, 11:31:03 PM

Quote from: whiterabbit on Feb 20, 2015, 11:29:09 PMNo they don't.

Alien 3 quite blatantly says they do.

And the faults with the later movies is more the actual designs rather than the execution, and we've no idea to what extent they had those dictated to them.

No, it doesn't. Woodruff and Gillis much like a certain director/producer who will remain unmentioned, do quite fine when they are riegned in and told in very exacting terms what is needed and what is not. When they're allowed to have free reign on "improving" already established designs, they suck gangrenous donkey balls. A:R was their show, and we got a fat albino hermaphrodite with scurvy and Giger's design turned into literal melted cheese.

No thanks.

Why do you feel the need to over exaggerate.

Well... I think it's usually true that special effects professionals make for crappy directors. They're just very different art forms. *Cough* avpr anybody.

Quote from: NetworkATTH on Feb 21, 2015, 07:24:52 AM
Why do you feel the need to over exaggerate.

It's Xhan's usual approach to things. :P

Quote from: Xhan on Feb 21, 2015, 06:15:36 AMA:R was their show, and we got a fat albino hermaphrodite with scurvy and Giger's design turned into literal melted cheese.

You realise it was actually Jeunet who wanted a fat albino hermaphrodite with scurvy? He specifically told ADI to make the Newborn more human than Alien.

And given what the Newborn was, that made sense.

Quote from: NetworkATTH on Feb 21, 2015, 07:24:52 AM

Quote from: Xhan on Feb 21, 2015, 06:15:36 AM

Quote from: HuDaFuK on Feb 20, 2015, 11:31:03 PM

Quote from: whiterabbit on Feb 20, 2015, 11:29:09 PMNo they don't.

Alien 3 quite blatantly says they do.

And the faults with the later movies is more the actual designs rather than the execution, and we've no idea to what extent they had those dictated to them.

No, it doesn't. Woodruff and Gillis much like a certain director/producer who will remain unmentioned, do quite fine when they are riegned in and told in very exacting terms what is needed and what is not. When they're allowed to have free reign on "improving" already established designs, they suck gangrenous donkey balls. A:R was their show, and we got a fat albino hermaphrodite with scurvy and Giger's design turned into literal melted cheese.

No thanks.

Why do you feel the need to over exaggerate.

Not the one exaggerating things here.


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literal. melted. cheese.

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it's what's for dinner.

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Quote from: HuDaFuK on Feb 21, 2015, 09:11:27 AM

Quote from: Xhan on Feb 21, 2015, 06:15:36 AMA:R was their show, and we got a fat albino hermaphrodite with scurvy and Giger's design turned into literal melted cheese.

You realise it was actually Jeunet who wanted a fat albino hermaphrodite with scurvy? He specifically told ADI to make the Newborn more human than Alien.

We've all watched the same documentaries, read the same articles. The final visual thematics were in their hands, hence the eidting done post-wrap. More human than Alien is a very broad swath, and so is "make it delicate but dangerous".

Quote from: NetworkATTH on Feb 21, 2015, 07:24:52 AM

Quote from: Xhan on Feb 21, 2015, 06:15:36 AM

Quote from: HuDaFuK on Feb 20, 2015, 11:31:03 PM

Quote from: whiterabbit on Feb 20, 2015, 11:29:09 PMNo they don't.

Alien 3 quite blatantly says they do.

And the faults with the later movies is more the actual designs rather than the execution, and we've no idea to what extent they had those dictated to them.

No, it doesn't. Woodruff and Gillis much like a certain director/producer who will remain unmentioned, do quite fine when they are riegned in and told in very exacting terms what is needed and what is not. When they're allowed to have free reign on "improving" already established designs, they suck gangrenous donkey balls. A:R was their show, and we got a fat albino hermaphrodite with scurvy and Giger's design turned into literal melted cheese.

No thanks.

Why do you feel the need to over exaggerate.

It looked like a pretty accurate description actually. Melted cheese and scurvy were especially on point.

Quote from: Xhan on Feb 21, 2015, 04:15:22 PM

Quote from: NetworkATTH on Feb 21, 2015, 07:24:52 AM

Quote from: Xhan on Feb 21, 2015, 06:15:36 AM

Quote from: HuDaFuK on Feb 20, 2015, 11:31:03 PM

Quote from: whiterabbit on Feb 20, 2015, 11:29:09 PMNo they don't.

Alien 3 quite blatantly says they do.

And the faults with the later movies is more the actual designs rather than the execution, and we've no idea to what extent they had those dictated to them.

No, it doesn't. Woodruff and Gillis much like a certain director/producer who will remain unmentioned, do quite fine when they are riegned in and told in very exacting terms what is needed and what is not. When they're allowed to have free reign on "improving" already established designs, they suck gangrenous donkey balls. A:R was their show, and we got a fat albino hermaphrodite with scurvy and Giger's design turned into literal melted cheese.

No thanks.

Why do you feel the need to over exaggerate.

Not the one exaggerating things here.


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literal. melted. cheese.

http://media.giphy.com/media/bWVDG7IJxr8ME/giphy.gif

it's what's for dinner.

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Quote from: HuDaFuK on Feb 21, 2015, 09:11:27 AM

Quote from: Xhan on Feb 21, 2015, 06:15:36 AMA:R was their show, and we got a fat albino hermaphrodite with scurvy and Giger's design turned into literal melted cheese.

You realise it was actually Jeunet who wanted a fat albino hermaphrodite with scurvy? He specifically told ADI to make the Newborn more human than Alien.

We've all watched the same documentaries, read the same articles. The final visual thematics were in their hands, hence the eidting done post-wrap. More human than Alien is a very broad swath, and so is "make it delicate but dangerous".

Aside from the context of the film itself, and opinions about texture, the mechanics of how the alien works are far superior to that of Alien, and depending on scene, Aliens. The opinion you have is about texture, and what material they used to present it.

It's not a bad animatronic at all. It's actually really well built. The point of contention here is aesthetic difference, not performance. If you've seen ADI's other work, you would realize they're capable at their job, you just disagree with how they pulled the films off, over a decade ago.

No, I think some of it has to do with performance, and the way that performance is presented too.

One thing I utterly hate is the roaring they gave to the aliens, and in all the films post Resurrection, the really silly looking lip quivering.

There's something lethargic about the aliens in AR. And I find they tend to just walk at their victims like they don't care. There's none of this attack-from-the-shadows business like in the prior films. Maybe I'm remembering wrong, I dunno, they just seemed more... unimaginative than usual.

They're just as slow as the first Alien.

They're fast when they want to -- see the underwater scene. Something that does bother me is how the Alien on the ladder does not just pull Wriess and Christie down with ease once it gets a good grip.

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Oh good god that alien drool...I don't remember it being that bad in other movies. Didn't ADI twerk the aliens for convenience in A|R, such as that fin they added to the tail so it would make the swimming look more legit? Plus they were just so damn slimy in A|R. They added a lot of crap that was not needed.

Quote from: Omegazilla on Feb 22, 2015, 08:27:45 AM
They're just as slow as the first Alien.

I mean the first one, and even Cameron's and Fincher's, had more wraith-like qualities at times, and they moved with real purpose. The Res-aliens really lack those aspects; they feel kinda aimless and it feels like they just happen to run into people now and then, even though it's probably not the directors intention. I dunno, it's just the impression I get from that movie, haha.

Quote from: PsyKore on Feb 23, 2015, 10:48:24 AMThe Res-aliens really lack those aspects; they feel kinda aimless and it feels like they just happen to run into people now and then, even though it's probably not the directors intention.

That's actually a really good point, now that you mention it... You never get the impression the survivors on the Auriga are being hunted. They just occasionally (like, twice) bump into some Aliens. What are the things doing all the rest of that time?

Setting up their hive in the waste storage.

Quote from: Corporal Hicks on Feb 23, 2015, 11:16:07 AM
Setting up their hive in the waste storage.

So in an alien outbreak you have 12 hours to get the f**k out of the area?

The Queen did have Ripley's DNA inside of her... probably making her more human bitchy than usual, she was also pregnant, hell she had one bring Ripley to her to watch the birth. What the f**k was up with that? Was she just gloating in Ripley's face? Like ha ha, check out my baby maker I got from you or did the queen accept her as a fellow alien? Surely the plan was to laugh at her and then facehug... no wait, no more eggs... eat her?

ooohhhh that's right, she was not making any eggs... there was no reason to round up the silly humans as hosts. So the aliens pretty much just hung out at the hive. That's it eh.

Though of course there were those eggs in the trap where they swam into the two aliens in the flooded mess hall... that was probably all the eggs pre-baby maker. That other alien was probably just on it's way to the hive and got lost. Just like Fifield did. So perhaps the other aliens were carrying the eggs there and opening the pipes to herded them to that room. No one ever appreciates the behind the scene teamwork.

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Quote from: HuDaFuK on Feb 20, 2015, 11:31:03 PM

Quote from: whiterabbit on Feb 20, 2015, 11:29:09 PMNo they don't.

Alien 3 quite blatantly says they do.

And the faults with the later movies is more the actual designs rather than the execution, and we've no idea to what extent they had those dictated to them.

No, it doesn't. Woodruff and Gillis much like a certain director/producer who will remain unmentioned, do quite fine when they are reigned in and told in very exacting terms what is needed and what is not. When they're allowed to have free reign on "improving" already established designs, they suck gangrenous donkey balls. A:R was their show, and we got a fat albino hermaphrodite with scurvy and Giger's design turned into literal melted cheese.

No thanks.

There was a video interview I saw with them recently where they say their reasoning for the AR look is that the alien has human DNA mixed in with it so it should appear to be more smooth. I buy that - but ti doesn't mean the design is interesting or good though.

http://geektyrant.com/news/badass-make-up-test-photos-for-corporal-hicks-in-new-alien-film (http://geektyrant.com/news/badass-make-up-test-photos-for-corporal-hicks-in-new-alien-film)

A f**k tonne of more pictures of this:

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And a load of Woodruff's in that last picture.

...I really wanna see Biehn look like this.

Please ADI, if you work on this- do Giger's biomechanics justice.

Quote from: Son Of Kane on Mar 06, 2015, 10:43:06 AM
Please ADI, if you work on this- do Giger's biomechanics justice.

If that's what Neill tells them to do, I have every confidence they can do it.

Yeah you can't really have ago at these guys for the badness of the films, ADI are just told what to do. You can't ignore their talent, especially if it was put to good use rather than used to make designs of Aliens and Predators that fans don't like.


For the Resurrection thing, I can accept the human dna mix explanation making them smooth, especially since it should have only been a one time thing since its limited to that particular breed but then AVP and its sequel came along and used fleshy design.

If ADI works on Alien 5 which I have no problem with, I hope they try and go back to the original giger design, either dome or ridged, perhaps both to show evolution.

They are clearly willing to listen. Wolf is a far superior Predator design when compared to Scar/Celtic/Gills.

FANFIC!

Quote from: tmjhur on Mar 06, 2015, 12:46:30 PM
FANFIC!

Is that really necessary?

Quote from: OpenMaw on Mar 06, 2015, 12:38:16 PM
They are clearly willing to listen. Wolf is a far superior Predator design when compared to Scar/Celtic/Gills.

I agree...still dislike that predator though but thats due to his behavior not his appearance which was back to standards more or less. ADI do need to be bit more vocal when asked to do something, they should be like "no, Aliens are supposed to be bio-mechanic, this design flies in the face of that, we need to make it more like the orginal". Of course the problem is that the studio is the one with the power sadly and they like to cut corners and be lazy, so suits are re-used...bad suits. plus I am pretty sure ADI need to eat so they would have do their job no matter what, kinda sad really because despite the films they had to work, they are very talented and the blame should not be placed on their shoulders, I keep seeing people on here going "no ADI for Alien 5" when its directors and studio that made the design choices.

I think Niell might go the bio-mechanical route...hopefully.

Hmm, still think the Hicks facial damage is a tad O.T.T to be honest...

I can agree with that since I doubt much acid got on to his face, after the attack his face and ear looked fine except maybe his cheek.

One thing to consider is that acid is very deceptive though, in terms of how much damage it does over time. Initial damage can grow worse over a matter of hours. Same of any burns, really. They tend to look a lot worse with time. Remember, Hicks gave himself a pain shot before Ripley went into the hive, and then Bishop gave him another one (and had already bandaged his face if I recall correctly.)

I wouldn't put too much stock into these shots. They are done more to show off their makeup and lighting talent. All that stuff is just bits they had lying around.

Quote from: whiterabbit on Feb 23, 2015, 11:40:34 AM
So in an alien outbreak you have 12 hours to get the f**k out of the area?

The Queen did have Ripley's DNA inside of her... probably making her more human bitchy than usual, she was also pregnant, hell she had one bring Ripley to her to watch the birth. What the f**k was up with that? Was she just gloating in Ripley's face? Like ha ha, check out my baby maker I got from you or did the queen accept her as a fellow alien? Surely the plan was to laugh at her and then facehug... no wait, no more eggs... eat her?

ooohhhh that's right, she was not making any eggs... there was no reason to round up the silly humans as hosts. So the aliens pretty much just hung out at the hive. That's it eh.

Though of course there were those eggs in the trap where they swam into the two aliens in the flooded mess hall... that was probably all the eggs pre-baby maker. That other alien was probably just on it's way to the hive and got lost. Just like Fifield did. So perhaps the other aliens were carrying the eggs there and opening the pipes to herded them to that room. No one ever appreciates the behind the scene teamwork.

In the original script the aliens were doing something to the queen as I recall. Bathing her in blood or something. Gediman said something about them draining him of blood. The Newborn in the script was actually vampiric. Ripley was intended to be a snack for the creature, too. (There was none of that emotional bullshit like in the movie.)

Quote from: Corporal Hicks on Mar 06, 2015, 12:56:40 PM

Quote from: tmjhur on Mar 06, 2015, 12:46:30 PM
FANFIC!

Is that really necessary?

Yes! This bringing back Hicks thing is just.....eugggghhhhh

I just wish they'd live with their decisions from the early 90's and stop trying to alter history and fix the past of movies.
Hicks died, it was shit, but I'm over it! I want to see a NEW alien movie not a fanboy's wet dream alien movie.

Why should a new guy stepping in have to "live with" the decisions made by the studio when trying to cram a film in to meet a release date, though?

Those decisions are from over 20 years ago. Ripley's story was FINISHED. Then they dug up that story again for money. So Fox and Blomkamp need to work with that story if they are going to continue using that character. He doesn't HAVE to use Ripley. It was his choice. So if he's going to do that he ought to at least feature the clone version and just kill that story and FINALLY we can move on with the f**king series once and for all......
This retcon is as bad as killing off the characters in the first place. Let's just MOVE ON!

I apologize if someone else shared this, but a new interview was conducted with David by the site Sinful Celluloid. You can read the interview here.

http://www.sinfulcelluloid.com/2015/03/exclusive-new-alien-5-hicks-make-up-test-shots-and-interview/ (http://www.sinfulcelluloid.com/2015/03/exclusive-new-alien-5-hicks-make-up-test-shots-and-interview/)

They have new, exclusive pictures from the makeup test, but I cannot post the images on here because the site has all of the content protected to where I can't paste the images and any text from the interview.

https://www.instagram.com/p/BdgGNTzg5d-/?taken-by=sonofpumpkinhead

Quote from: Corporal Hicks on Jan 03, 2018, 10:34:19 PM
https://www.instagram.com/p/BdgGNTzg5d-/?taken-by=sonofpumpkinhead

Is this the maquette Blomkamp commisioned from ADI that Woodruff mentioned? The one that they had to keep under wraps?

I can't imagine so. It's not even ADI's work.

David Woodruff isn't the son of Tom?

He is but he owns his own make-up effects company.

ADI Jr?

Generation Effects. Though to be fair, ADI did support him and obviously Tom modelled for him but essentially it's a test/pitch/fun make-up effect by Generation Effects and David. And we've seen this in the past.

I think we're probably looking at something substantially different for the mystery marquette.