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Firstly, thanks to forum member UltraBeast for sending me the HBO AvP Special programme. The file itself is 30MB which I’m going to upload to FilePlanet after I’ve written this. It’s really good quality too but the first minute or so were missed off. Anyway, I’ve spent the last hour or so creating screen captures and you can find 125 images from the HBO Programme in the HBO Special Gallery.

All I can say when I watched this is Wow. There’s a couple more shots on the next page but make sure you check out the Gallery for all 125. I will update the news when I’ve, hopefully, uploaded the video file to FilePlanet.

Update: Download HBO Special: Mirror 1 | Mirror 2 | Mirror 3 (27.3MB)

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way f**king kool     ;D    joy first post again lol

Whoa man! Amazing. The first person shot of the Alien swarm is incredible to say the least! Anderson pulled it off! Its a masterpiece I tell ya! If this doesn't smash all kinds of sci-fi movie records and become an instant classic I will be utterly baffled!

  ;D  Wait till u see the HBO special   ???  

Its not gonna set box office records

Already seen. But soon we be able to download.  1....  2....  3....  Yay!!!!

Holly sh*t this movie is gonna rock !!!! and kick ass,cool shot of the ALIENS going up the pyamid!

Thanks ULTRA!! Thanks Darkness!!! You know guys...when I first heard about this movie being made I got so HYPED!! I couldn't wait...then during the course of the months I was excited sometimes, then Skepctical some others...up and down, I've criticized Paul and Fox some others, and Gillis and Woodruff, and I guess I'm kind of and Old School guy, I love Ridley Scott, HR Giger Stan Winston....James Cameron...but you know what!!  ITS 2004, And P.A. has done a movie for 2004!! A different concept, enchanced different creatures, and by the looks of it ACTION PACKED MAYHEM!!! I don't care anymore if it's PG-13 I don;t care anymore that Giger or Winston aren't involved, I just want to see this guys RUMBLE THE MOVIE SCREEN And seems like that's gonna happen!!!  IM EXCITED ABOUT THIS!! AVP RULES!!!! I'M  ALL HYPED AGAIN!!!! JUST 6 DAYS TO GO!!!!!

on the first pic, if u guys go and see all 125 pics u see that the lil red thing showing on the preds arm iz a small out line of the pyramid  f**king awesome

Kickass.. </Cartman>

thx ultra beast for doing this, i was gonna do it but i dont have time, oh and my camera takes crappy video.

yea to my surprise my dad typed it, so i was able to see it. petty good show i must say...made me a beliver even more.  as well all hope, we hope PA dont let us down, i dont even want to think what would happen if he did

ULTRA & DARKNESS are the best !!thnx guyz!

Lovely. :)  -Rusty Nails

Before i forget thanx for all the pictures Ultra and Darkness.

PLZ I BEG YOU UPLOAD THE PROGRAM PLZ!!!!

AWESOME.  Simply fantastic.   Thanks Darkness, and Ultra!!!!!

w00t! Can't wait to see the actual HBO program!   ;D  

Downloading now!!

It won't let me login, it keeps saying error when I want to go to the login screen!!!   ???   I want to see it so BAD!!!

THX Darkness!! and THX Ultra!! you both realised a dream of all non american residens ppl!!

....................................... wwwwwwwwwwwwwwooooooooooooooooaaaaaaaaaaahhh hhhhhh!!!!!! .........................................   ;D     ;D     The hologramatic wrist control on the predator is shear ........   ....... SHEAR ............ I CAN'T FIND THE WORDS BUT   MAN   ;D  

good job Ultra.  thanks for the rip.    :)  

i DL the show by here niiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii iiiiice shit guys

Holy S**t!! I just saw the footage... I'm speachless!!

Mean the Pred with the Aliens head  on the Spear is wicked!!! And how about the Alien Queen walking down the hall! Man!!!

Thx Darkness gives us peeps who aren't getting it for a few months something to watch.

Just downloaded the HBO special cool stuff!

That scene with Weyland pleaying with the pen on his hand is hilarious!!  Remember Aliens???

oh damn.  i have to admit that was very kickass!!  i take back all doubt i had about this movie.   ;D  

hollllllllyyyyyyyy f**king shit i just saw it and damn that shit iz ganna ROCK     ;D    my hype iz alil elavated  rite about now lol

We've all had some doubts in the past regarding this movie! But it's seems that they'll deliver the goods!!!

woah!!!sooo cool!!! the facehuggers look amazing!! i always felt we never got to see them enough in the past films! well done PA!! :D:D

Oh My God! I just finished watching it! I am speechless!!!!!!!!!!  It was awesome!!!!!!!!!!!

...........O_O

is this file quicktime??

El Demonio Cazador - Dude, that alien queen is not walking.. she is pissed as hell!!  lol. Damn this is lookin wicked... *sigh*.. 6 days to go..

goddamn i cant watch it    >:D  

I bet the pred seen with the alien head on spear is the pred from predator 1, that would be kinda a cool to see where his legacy kindof began.

You're right MazMan!! hehehe I guess I forgot my Enlgish to express my excitement!!

the more you see of scar the more mean and menacing he looks         as with celtic even though most people know his potential outcome

Well SCAR i know he will deliver the goods that's why i call myself SCAR !!! We all know he will put up one hell of a fight even if he dies which i hope not!"    ???  

If that doesn't shut the "naysayers" up, nothing will. As for unfinished effects? Please....if those are rough and unfinished...then Fox should get an oscar for the "Tweaking" they'd do to improve the film visually.

Alright now I can see it again go Darkness and Ultra.  AVP is going to rock people.

I want to thank Darkness and UltraBeast for their efforts here - and a thanks to all of you who've posted on this thread.  I've seen a lot of negativity here over the past few weeks, so much so - I donned my 'lets try to make them smile' hat when posting.  But I'd like to take this opportunity (whilst I'm waiting for 2 hours for the thing to download over my 56Ker) to thank each and every one of you above for your positive comments - it shows you have been as concerned as me - and lets be honest - we don't get this worried unless it's over something we hold very dear.  I've been a huge fan of the Alien and ESPECIALLY the Predator movies - seeing every one the 1st day (or week) they were released (yeah - I'm old enough to be the Father of most of you!)  This thing is a dream come true for me, as it is for so many of us, and I so desperately want to come out of the theater on Friday to simply buy another ticket and go straight back in!  I'll post more when I've got the download - but for the time being - the screen shots (esp. the views from the top of the pyramid - WOW!) and all your comments have got me more hyped about this than I've been so far.  Thanks again guys - we deserve this!  Fu#@in' "A" - Muuuhaaahaaaaaaaahaaaaaaa!

hey heavy metal good post man nice and desent it true alot negativity here and sonetimes including my self we loose our kool so iz always to have someone that can post something nice to relax us lol

I agree....it's just that we want this movie so bad that we want it to be perfect and that's why we sometimes could be very critical... but it's called passion!! and I'm sure by the end of the day we'll love the movie and watch it many times!! I mean, who honestly doesn't watch AR eventhough it mostly sucked? Well, AVP is gonna be much much better even with the PG 13 and s**t....  So!! we're almost there!!   Saludos!

Woah I saw it again!  Scar swinging the Queen by her chains!   ;D    PS-Nice try Darkness   ;)  

even dough im not a big fan of alien i liked AR i got thhe alien quadrilogy and the 2 predators by the way i got the collecters edition  yesturday     ;D  

I HAVE SEEN THE QUEEN    :)     ;D     ;D     :)     ;D     ;D     :)     ;D     ;D     :)     :)     :D     :D     8)     8)     8)      :)     :)     :D     :D     ;)     ;)     ;D     ;D     :)     :)     :)  

ok i dont get this one, why does the predator's blade melt when he cuts the Alien's tail, but he can hold an Alien head upon his spear without acid melting the weapon and dripping onto himself. other than that the Head on the Spear does looks cool.  second, why is there blue electricity when the Predators de-cloak on their dry ship. there isnt supposed to be that electricity unless snow or water is in contact with the cloak.  third, too bad, apart from the new footage this special was just the featurettes combined into one.  third, when the aliens eat the screen, you knwo when they jump at us and look like they almost take a bite out of the camera, they just dont look like aliens, more like dogs.  and i can't get over that stupid line - "you ugly...sonofa...bitch" could a line get a worse delivery? its a ruined line anyway.

Hey - LP ...... (that used to bee 'long playing record' back in my days - heh heh heh).  Congrats on the 1st negative post to this thread - you must be soooo happy     ;D    The reason for the acid not burning - if you knew your films - the 1st alien movie says clearly that it oxidises after a while (remember where the facehugger acid stops short of burning through the nostromo?)  Other points - can't comment until I've seen the blimmin' thing.   Oh - and it goes "first/second/third/fourth" NOT "first/second/third/THIRD"  wassamatter dude - got a stutter ???!?!?!   ;D    So after me : "A" is for apple "B" is for ball "C" is for some cocksucker really needs to get his head out of his arse ...   Aaaayneyhewwwww - later dudes     :D  

LyricalPharaoh.....Maybe the pred prepared the alien head first just like Scar does for Lex's shield.  Naaah, it's just another plot hole.  But who cares, it looks cool.

Woohoo guys!  Jeepers I made the trip and holy cow I'm here!  Thank God for internet cafe's.  Wee hoo!  Gosh golly darn!   :D  

About the alien head on the spear; remember in aliens, Bishop explained that the alien blood neutralized after death, so kill an alien, and after a bit the body is no longer dangerous.  Just while alive they're still dangerous to kill at close range.  BTW, thanks for the clip!  I was able to record it, but it's nice to actually have it on my computer.

nah i dont remember or i wouldnt have brought it up. thanks for the heads up.  On the Planet I come from we count 1,2,3,3,4,5,6,7,8,9...  and what about LyricalPharaoh? is it a song? or an artist? let me know.  Peace.

LP, that "stupid line" is a tribute to the first Predator film, and I think that did sound genuinely pissed.  The elecitricity around the Predators when they decloak, it looks like a cool effect to me, and is NOTHING to nitpick about.  And about the Aliens acting like dogs, how do you expect them to act?! They all want a piece of them Predators and theyre scramblin as fast as they can to get them as one single horde. If you watched Aliens... they seemed determined to get through those Sentry Guns to get the Marines, dog-like tenacity... would you say??

nah i dont remember or i wouldnt have brought it up. thanks for the heads up.  On the Planet I come from we count 1,2,3,3,4,5,6,7,8,9...  and what about LyricalPharaoh? is it a song? or an artist? let me know.  Peace.

YAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!.. ...all i have to freaking say is that and its set. This movie is going to kick some a$$!!!! And i think all of thouse edators can shove there pencils up there asses along with there clip boards if they said that avp will suck. They should all go home and die by choking on tooth past! HA take that TSN!!!!!!!!! And i would like to thatnk the people at avp galaxy for making this open ot everyone to watch.   I think that Paul will do us good and make everyone proud!!!!   Stay in the light....for deamonds do waite for thouse who wonder.

i wish someone would host it...i HATE gamespy  *continues whining, in a whiny, shrill, peircing voice* dslfjhkfjdhcvcb

And Lp, are you one of thouse hippy dippy fellas??   ???   Stop worring and just injoy the show!!!   8)     stay in hte light...for deamonds do waite for thouse who wonder

goddamnit i hate gamespy so frekin much

File not found..... .......... .......... .......... .......... .......... .......... ......... WHAAAT?!?!?!!!

some one post it not for download i cant join file planet!

word, i coulndt find the file either, when, in a state of weakness, i was GOING TO JOIN GAMESPY and FILE PLANET!   CONSPIRACY! sadfkuhasdf  someone get a REAL host for this thing, PLEASE

Hey Adam, what's the date for the premier again?  The 10th?

This special is f*cking amazing....  the movie is gonna kick ass....

Wow, the 10th is what..Tuesday?  Wow, that's soon.  I wonder if he'd be able to post up a short mini-review after he sees it, or at least his general thoughts.

Alternate link.  :)  http://www.viewandreview.com/avp/hboavp.wmv

Many, many thanks Darkness and UltraBeast for getting this clip online for us to see.  :)

FINALLY!

Things I didn't like about the clip:  1)The egyptian woman or whatever culture she is....the clothing looked like something out of a star trek episode.  And is she caucasian??What the hell? 2)The facehugger slowly crawling(hovering???) on her face....what the heck was it walking on air?? 3)The tiny crawl spaces.....if the preds built the pyramid or had it built for their rituals...then why would they design crawl spaces that an 8ft pred couldn't fit in?? 4)The shuriken.....half of the shuriken does not have blades...pretty understandable since the pred could slice off his hand by extending more blades...however physics would not allow a smooth swirling motion through air since one side is naturally heavier! 5)O.k. ummm acid on the shuriken before he catches it again...duh!!!!  6)Face hugger split in half....ummm o.k....can you say no acid?  What the heck? Oh maybe that's why he could catch it again without burning his hand.  Oh wait a minute..NO ACID...AHHH!!!  And it wouldn't oxidize that fast...don't use that as an excuse! 7)Alrighty I'm Scar and I'm badass 'cause I just caught a facehugger....wait...it took a bath before I caught it...no blood from "you know who's" chest.  I'm in luck, no mess for me! Woo! 8)O.k. preds can cloak and kick ass!  Then why the hell do they keep showing themselves????  Oh wait maybe they conveniently lost the ability to do so by getting sprayed with water or something...wait no that's not the answer since I read the book.  Geeze, you have the power, use it and kill some Aliens!! 9)TO be continued!

uhhh preds have crazy technology, theres probably a computer in that thing for flight much more advanced than the stuff in our newest jets, which wouldnt be able to fly without a computer CONSTANTLY making corrections.  id imagine preds dont cloak when fighting aliens cause aliens could see them anyway  and about the blood on the shuriken, maybe the shurikens are resistant to the blood and the blood just flings off them, like water on a rain-x'd windshield

1) Good luck finding an authentic Incan, or someone that looks like one. 2) Ive looked over that, and I think its already on the persons face, just the legs arent wrapped around yet so it seems the Facehugger is hovering. 3) Perhaps they were built for the Aliens to travel? Have the Predators on the edge of their seat wondering which passage an Alien might pop out of? 4) The Shuriken may have been made out of some alloy that the Preds discovered in space? 6) I admit there shouldve been acid, but as said in my previous statement... blades so sharp it cauterizes(sp?) on contact? 7) Not a facehugger, a chestburster... shows how much you know bout Aliens. For all you know it probly isnt "fresh" and had time to molt a set of its skin? Aliens do molt ya know? 8) Humans are just toys to them, so thats how they treat them... as toys, untill deemed fit to throw away. If youve played the AVP games then you know the Aliens have a highly advanced sense of detecting things, Preds have been fighting these suckers for years they probly know if cloak works or not.

A note about cloaking, let me just quote the original AVP comic book:  "Invisibility. That's how the "warriors" had gotten past our defenses. But invisibility has little meaning to creatures with no eyes."

4) The Shuriken may have been made out of some alloy that the Preds discovered in space?   the weapon was traveling so fast it probably DIDNT have enough time to get blood on it!  6) I admit there shouldve been acid, but as said in my previous statement... blades so sharp it cauterizes(sp?) on contact?   lets remember predator 1 and jesse venturas wound! mind u it WAS plasma, but we have no idea how their technology works so lets just wait and see!

It's amazing how some people have the tenacity (not to mention TIME) to sit around and disect every single frame of a clip.  I'm almost afraid to see what some of these people can find to complain about when the movie appears on the internet for download.....

for the shuriken heavier on one side thing, remember back to Predator 2 where they found the metallic object that had almost no weight.

means they should have supa light armor although they seem soo slow in movie cous off armor...but then agen i didnt saw the movie...

HOW CAN I DOWNLOAD THIS FROM FILE PLANET...PLEASE HELP...

FANTASTIC! This is great. Many MANY MANY thanks for this    ;D  

1) & 2) The Inca or Mayan woman to be slowly facehugged is great and adds a really creepy feature of the Facehugger. I only wonder why the Facehugger didn't wrap its tail around the victim's neck. I think by the way it was a female virgin that was sacrificed. Maybe it's an honor to be sacrificed to the Predators...?  3)The tiny crawl spaces. Remember that the walls and stairs are changing and moving because of something that was activated (maybe the symbol that Sebastian turns?).  4)You could be right about the smooth swirling motion of the shuriken.  5) &6) I thought the same about the acid.  7)He cathes a chestburster like someone already said. Not all chestbursters were completely covered with blood in the Alien movies.  8) So that the audience also sees them. Remember, only humans can't see those cloacked Predators, Aliens can "see" them, so it's no use to cloack if an Alien is near.

Is it possible to get this in quicktime, it would be ahell of alot easier, I JUST LOVE THESE SCREEN SHOTS.    AAAAAAAVPPPPPPPP!!!!!!

I was a little disappointed, when I saw the one-minute fightscene, but now it's obvious to me, that it wasn't finished, edited, etc.  The material what HBO showed on television is......F*UCKING AWESOME!!!! INCREDIBLE!! Man, the look of this movie is just fantastic. I thought Predator 2 was enjoyable, but i can say already, this movie is going to be much and much better. Also the actors are good; Henriksen, Bremner, Salmon, Flanagan are not famous pretty boy actors, but who cares? The comparison between AVP and Freddy vs. Jason is bullshit. AVP has the real actors and FvJ has weak acting snotnosed brats and RnB-bitches in it.  Man, 5 days till the first reactions. I am dutch so i have to wait a while.

1. Like someone said Try to find in original Incan woman and i think youll have some trouble   ;)   And watch history channel because thats EXACTLY  how they dress.  2. Maybe a little floating but the movements were very smooth and realistic animatronics.  3. The crawl space is obvoisly getting smaller and moving because sebstian triggered something. Probably something that ensures aliens cant escape during the ceremony. My god do you think Preds purpusly made the Pyrimid like that. Cross thier fingers and hop they make it to the end of the hall without getting crushed    ;D     4.The other end im guessing is weighted. that would balance the equilibrium.  5. Shuriken probly covered in something like teflon non stick stuff or cuts really fast  7.Hey look at the right side of the screen during the scene when the Pred catches it.  YOU SEE STEAM AND SMOKE RIZING FROM THE (pOSSIBLE) FACEHUGGER.  8.Not going to argue cause you dont even know what a chestbuster is LOL! (molting stages obvoisly)  I hate to argue someone who doesnt know their facts     >:D  

fantastic! iam really envious...   >:D   we must waint untill 18. november!!! i don't understand, foy why cant screening this movie everywhere in the same time...   ???  

Well, considering how they're progressing with the editing, they probably didn't have time to dub it or put in the subtitles before the premiere day in the US. Still, it's kind of annoying that most of us have to wait a long time before actually seeing this movie.  I'll wait patiently. I'm just hoping our local theaters will do a contest to go in for free and stuff like that. They usually do that for especially cool movies like this one.

That is so true. Kinda lame the preds are uncloaked most of the movie becuase it seems pointless.  But then again i dont think the cloaking works on aliens, but i thought those young pred know that first offf. Becuase why would they come to the pyrimade cloaked when knowing there wasnt any humans there,.

They know that theyre there, if you watched the Featurettes Sebastian says, "The whole thing was a trap.."

Hi Everyone! Some people were making comments about the Mayan or Incan woman who gets slowly facehugged, that scene is pretty gruesome,  considering that literally the Facehugger is having sex with the victim.... specially because we see the Facehugger's freaking organ going to the victim's mouth!!... I guess the MPAA doesn't care about Aliens having sex heheheh, Anyway, it's funny that the woman is referred as Mayan or Incan when it actually shoould be Aztec (Mexica acctually), or Egyptian or Cambodian and she definetly looks like none of them!!! Anyway, the weird part and I actually made this question to P.A. on the questions from AvP Galaxy is this: How come if this is Aztec (Mexica) Egyptian and Cambodian pyramid, it's full of Mayan designs and motifs?  Anyway, it's Sci-Fi so everything is possible, I guess! it's gonna be fun, lot's of action, and at the end of the day, it's a Movie with the purpose of Entertainment! So!! 5 days to go!!!! I'm getting my tickets today!!   Saludos!

Ah yep what can I say....you make a movie...and I will find plot holes.  I have read maybe one or two responses that offered good explanations to my questions.  And the facehugger instead of chestburster....mistype..my head was still in the previous question.  But oh my god, some of you call yourselves Alien and Predator fans with your answers.  Some of those answers were just plain silly. For instance...maybe the small corridor was made for the Aliens not the Preds...ummm LOL!!!...Aliens are just as huge you dolt.  Oh yeah and Blazen I know more than you about both franchises and I say that with confidence.   :D 

More plot holes to upset everyone........ 1)The queen has barbed chains through her head.  Why didn't her acid destroy them when they were stuck through her?  We have already established that pred technology doesn't prevent acid burn.  2)Why would the Queen not decide until the very end of the movie to give out her help cry for the Alien horde to free her?    Blaze....I'll only write two so your brain can process these questions easier.

Thats alright there Sandxmanx I already seen it. Thanks anyway.

Umm only upsetting you... you dolt. If the Aliens got on all fours maybe they could fit through there. They maybe tall but if they get on all fours they are QUITE a bit shorter, if you saw the end of the clip when the Alien was crouching it was only a couple feet tall.  What youve established is that the teenage PREDS WEAPONS are not acid-proof, there is nothing saying the rest of their species does not have acid proof technology.  And why didnt she untill the end of the movie? Maybe she was one tick away from goin psycho on the Preds, plot convenience I would call it, not a plot hole.

Boy, if we were to disect this movie clip at a time there would be nothing of this movie to call ' strong and substancial ', jeezzz.   The Predator am sure does contain acid burn technology but if EVERY weapon of the Preds were like this then boy ... the Aliens wouldn't actually be that much of a challenge now would they? just fodder for the blood thirsty Preds.  They can be such a thing as TOO OVER ANALYTICAL   ;)  

FAT, I got one for you: 1) Why do you talk about the movie in past-tense as if you've already seen it? I'm going to need you to wait til the 13th before you start nit-picking about everything...  What a dick!  Just when everyone is hyped bout the movie we get a jerk over here moaning and groaning bout everything...Hell, even cookies is not complainin bout anything lol!!  I know you think you're all cool sittin behind ur computer just cuz ur the only f*ck currently on the site who has somethin negative but ur really not that cool, in fact ur just showin how much of a punk u are...oh yeah and don't assume to know more than others.

O yeah, someone tell me more about Scar swing the Queen about.    Somebody!   ;D  

Ah what have we here..yet another dolt.  ElTiburon, have you heard of the terms "movie trailer" and "movie clips" before.  Hmmm, one were to see these and comment on them, then the comments would be________________.  C'mon guy, you can do it...fill in that blank...there ya go.  And I can make any negative comments I'd like.  Do you see me bashing you for making positive ones?  No.  See you in the banned life...SUCKER! LOL   ;)  

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the queen is never encountered by scar until the end of the movie on the top of the ice in the whale bone or graveyard as some call it  the queen breaks from her chains by being attacked by her drones and then her blood oxidizes and ends up melting her chains right off      then all of the aliens plus the queen chase after lex and scar

LOL @FAT!!  I'm really starting to like this guys/girls sarcasm!  ROTFLMAO!

  :)   Nothing to complain about, except for the absolutely corny "time to pick a side" - line. Such a banality in dialogue (induces associations to dystopic visions) is hopefully just a minor flaw here and there and not a constant menace, albeit you have to admit that the movie already contains very cool lines, such as "The story's over here --- this hole thing was a trap", "they're not hunting us, we're in the middle of a war", "what did you say this room was called?" etc.

No it's true, I saw the TV spot as well.  Scar was swinging her like a rag doll. lol!  And read Page 270, paragraph 3 of the novel there SHURIKEN.  The chains are there.

Did you guys see the in the HBO special when the Whaling Station is like falling into a whole or something???? That was awesome with the miniatures and stuff!!!! F*cking awesome man!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Answers are pathetic? Nothing to counter my arguement? No retort? C'mon man... I expected an arguement...

Cthulhu you are being just as much of a jack-ass as him.  Just ignore him already!  You are giving him what he wants..attention.  He's right, you are a dolt!  People like you bring this site down by egging others on!

Oh man... That looked too good.

Yeah, i have heard of "trailers" and "clips"...But let's examine these terms further. By nature, trailers and clips only show "clips" of the movie...You haven't seen the complete thing, so you don't know all the details therfore ur arguments are all fallacies...You have no idea what the f**k ur talking bout!!! You can't make a valid argument unless you know everything, which is why i'm not going to answer ur pointless questions until we see the movie.   Seriously, what's ur deal? You like being the bad guy or somethin? The same thing i said to cookies, why don't you join the home team and come on in for the big victory on Aug. 13th? This is a "fansite" if ur not a fan there is no reason for you to be here. And ur not going to get anybody banned, yeah not even you will get banned for making such comments...Isn't that the beauty of it, we all can say all the negative stuff we want and won't get banned unless we overly insult or threaten or otherwise abuse our posting freedoms. God, i really hate people who just show up on this site and think that they're bad...take a hint from G-dog, cetanu, shuriken, adamjz, J, and Darkness those are the real fans!

AL()EN ROCK :   Scar was swinging her like a rag doll   Somebody :   ... when the Whaling Station is like falling into a whole or something ????  WWWWWWWOOOOOOOOOOHHHHHHHHHHOOOOOO!!   ;D     ;D   SEE, NOW THIS IS THE KIND OF ACTION WE HAVE ALL BEEN DYING TO EXPECT!!  Now guys, you both wouldn't be teasing me with this information would you? ( having problems with my computer downloading stuff) THIS IS BY FAR EXPLOSIVE STUFF!  WHY DO WE HAVE TO WAIT SO DAMN LONG FOR THIS MOVIE TO SHOW, WWWHHHHHYYYYYY??????

You need not respond to that last post cuz that is my last time talking to you...I'm not wasting any more time giving such an immature person an audience. So go ahead and continue looking like a prick to everyone here. Just remember you are a candle in the sun compared to me...I'm done wit ya!

Every movie has its plotholes or inconsistancies.  The Aliens can fit through small spaces just the same as they do in the second alien movie.  That's a no brainer.  The Queen not calling for help until the end of the movie is probably a mix of several things.  Not only is it just convenient for the story, but there probably weren't quite enough aliens around to do something like that yet.  The Queen's blood not burning the chains is easy.  The chains are hooked into her boney structure and not actually going through her body.  Looking at screenshots and concept art shows that most of the chains we see are going through the actual head mantle, not the head itself, or through the boney ridges of her body, which is smart.  I don't see where they've gone through her body that would cause her to bleed.  The chestburster not being covered in blood, and the facehugger blood Q's were things I wondered about, but I won't say anything until I see the movie.  It's entirely possible those scenes weren't touched up with CGI yet.  I'll remark on them after the 13th.

Seriously   J , when the Whaling Station is falling down into something is simply awesome.  My mouth remained wide open for like a minute!    ;D   That was all real stuff, no CGI. I also loved the scene where Adele Roussou asks Thomas about the room, and then all-of-a-sudden, facehuggers are flying across the room in SLOW-MOTION. How cool is that???? It was just mind-blowing! Awesome!

ah i have a great idea.  people who seem to pick at everything about this film...........DONT SEE IT!!!! simple!!

Hey ElTiburon:  Count me in on that real fan list, too     :)  

Yeah, I have to say that the making-of really made a good impression as far as some of the practical effects go.  Using those miniatures was a great idea, because it always keeps everything looking a lot more real than CGI would.  The whaling station plummeting into the pit in CGI might look alright, but by using the miniatures the way they did was great.  It looked real, and I was suprised by how well it worked, namely how the snow fell in sheets as the board underneath the model retracted.  I think that part's going to look great on screen.

ElTiburon, the real fans are not afraid to give negative comments.  Why?  Because of their passion!  Real fans want the movie to be perfect in every aspect even though they will except the movie for its flaws.  Did I ever say I would not enjoy the movie? No, you f**king idiotic fool!  I am just stating the obvious.  Oh and the beauty of it is that I will not get banned even for harassing you!  You are a shit fool idiot!  There how is that!?  And I know nyou read this you pussy. LOL!  Even if you don't comment on it, I know I hit you hard fool. LOL!

Sorry i forgot ya! there are alot of people here who are extremely passionate about AVP...I used to think that i was the biggest fan, but ever since i've been on this site, ya'll have all proved that you guys are even more dedicated and fanatical bout this than me. But then, there are those people who just show up here and immediately start polluting the forums and comments sections with their pointless and stupid statements.

One more peice of negativity for ya candle in your dads ass or whatever you said.....  1)Why do the Aliens attack the Queen and start using her acid to melt the chains and free her instead of removing the chains themselves.  If they can cut power and use elevators, why can't they do something as simple as this?  Hmmm, hmmm, hmmm?

The aliens can't remove the chains because they're probably to sturdy and durable to cut.  It's much easier to use the Queen's blood to just free her since she won't really suffer in the long run.  Plus it's faster.  It's not as easy as just breaking some power generator or standing inside of an elevator.

I'll never understand people like you FAT...You are not on my level, don't even try to touch me, you can't take me, dude. Now, I gave you the chance to leave it alone, i even said i would be the bigger man and walk away, what more do you want? Do you still wanna beef wit me, cuz we can take off this site and anywhere else of ur choosing...Shit fool idiot? That's a new one to me, it must be sumthin you sixth-graders have come up with recently. But, this is stupid, this is an AVP site, we should be talking bout AVP not eachother. Now there is your fair warning. Don't f**k wit me again or like i said we can take this whereever you want to!

I love the idea of the Aliens biting off at the Queen ALIEN, it gives an almost Cannibal aspect and look to the Aliens, a real primitivness, a need for ' survive at any cost' look.   nice!   :D  

Galmorzu and J said it best...I think if the chains are strong enough to hold the queen, then they would be damn near unbreakable. I also thought that it gave such an eerie, animalistic-type quality to the aliens, that they would make her bleed in order to break her free. I can almost imagine the scene: the queen bucking and fighting to get free, and like a dozen aliens crawling over her, biting and scratching her...kinda like watching ants carrying their queen around or sumthin. Very cool stuff.

When I think of the scene where the Aliens are biting the Queen to break her chains, I think of the scene in Alien Resurrection where there are three Aliens being held in an observation tank.  Two of the Aliens attack and ultimately kill the youngest/weakest/whatever Alien in the chamber in order to use it's blood to break out of the chamber.  The Aliens are very much like ants in this regard... they aren't afraid to harm, maim, or even kill a member of the hive if it means the survival of the hive (though in the instance of the Aliens biting the Alien Queen, the goal isn;t to maim or kill her... it's to free her from her bonds).  I also recall seeing/hearing something somewhere that the Predators were giving the Queen some kind of chemical that inhibited her ability to lay eggs except in 100-year intervals.  With that in mind, I'm willing to accept on faith the Predators have the knowledge and technology to have acid-proof weaponry and equipment.  Taking an Alien Queen, chaining her up, and giving her an egg-producing inhibitor/drug does imply a high degree of Alien knowledge.  But even with acid-resistant weaponry and gear, the whole "rite-of-passage" scenario is still plausible.  The teenage Predators are still in a high degree of danger while inside the Pyramid.  They are just better equipped to deal with the upcoming challenges.  Maybe one of the purposes of the "rite-of-passage" is to teach young preds that in the hunt, you have to rely on more than just weaponry.  Maybe that is the final lesson a young Predator has to learn before becoming "a man".  This is all just hypothisis though... we'll know all the details in 5 days.  ;-)

We really don't know why the pyramid changes shape the way it does.  If it really is to create a maze for the preds to fight the aliens in, then why would it be hard to assume that the preds would want the aliens to get around the place in order to make the hunt more dangerous and unpredictable?  This rite of passage is to find out who the real warrior is, so they're going to be challenged to their limits.  Allowing the aliens to be anywhere at anytime just makes it harder on the preds and makes their possible success all the more deserved.

Galmorzu makes a great point about the actual hunt.  We've already established this is a "rite-of-passage" for the teenage preds and as such it should be dangerous.  It should be an ultimate warriors test.  Combine Galmorzu's theory about the chaotic/unpredictable nature of the hunt and my theory about teaching young preds the necessity of relying on more than just weaponry and you may very well have the heart-and-soul of why the preds use the Aliens and why the Pyramid acts as it does.

Bingo     8)  

Sorry if this has been pointed out before.  Did you see the little nod to the "Knife-thing" scene in Aliens when they were discussing Weyland? He was jabbing his pen in-between his fingers while looking at the computer. That is f**king genius. Paul really has put effort into this.

Yeah, I caught that.  It was a nice touch.  I wonder what other nods he's put into the movie?

Paul Anderson seems to have really done his homework, nice reference to Aliens,     oh yeah, Galmorzu, great point there     :)  

its just out on the streets, next to the theater, and stuff like that, lots of merchandise, and also , if Im there early, I will get a look at the stars themselves.

well what can i say guys, that hbo thing was just great. celtic looked alot better in those shots but u still gotta love scar, shame fish gill doesnt get any shots really.u thunk the unmasked pred we see is scar and the face looks great.

Sorry guys but I can't still get over that ' Scar swing the Queen Alien ' moment, I can't see it yet but DAMN.    some one please tell me more on that scene

I haven't seen the HBO special but from what you guys have said and from the pics i've seen, it looks like Paul did a really good job. The knife thing with Weyland is genius, that is sumthing i never would of thought of. And i remember the days when everybody doubted him lol....

  ;D   this movie looks way better then what i thought it would look like cant what next Friday

Hey everybody. How the hell are ya? lol. Im back again. Got back from Florida. For the record I made out pretty well. I only got a point on my lisence and a 2,000$ fine.  After the judge said I was fined 2000$ I said "Your honer 2,000$ wouldnt pay for half the contept I got for this court" He wasnt to happy with me. I made out okay but my doorless driving days are over. I seem to leave just when evrything started to get good. Look at all this new shit. The HBO special was GREAT! The new spots are cool and we have less than a week to wait guys! New cips and this special is alot to take in. This movie is going to do great. On friday the 13th 2004 this movie is going to be released to the public and it will rock. Thanks to everybody who wished me luck with my case. We are at the high point of this stuff guys and its going to get beter.

I'm sorry but I mist point out this fantastic moment in the Special. My counter has it at   6:10, and it's the moment where Lex has impaled an Alien with a spear. This moment shows so much fear in her face. Not only are the creautres geat, but the actors can act! God damn!

Doorless driving days?!?! I ahve high hopes for this movie...The first two weeks after it's released there are no other anticipated or good action movies coming out, so i am confident it will make big bucks...

Is the grid Alien really bigger than the rest of the Aliens?  The book mentions this, but it really doesn't look that much different than the others.

this message is for Fresh Alien Terds! the thing is ur looking for perfection in the alien movies, the thing is if u think alien or aliens is perfect, ur wrong there are many things wrong with them, they are greeeaaaaaat movies and we love them but they arent perfect! Nothing is perfect, u will never find perfection not in a woman not iin ur life not in avp! so calm down dude, i really dont think ur a fan all uve done since day one is nit pick!

So funny to c all of this. Like 2 weeks ago it was all " it will suck, PA has done it , he has ruined this and bla bla bla " and now its all YEAH!!!!!!  ahahahaha. So funny. I told ya that this was goin to be great. Was about time that you all overcome that Pg thing and all.  Good to c the fans back. Even if there is a fight coming lol.  But that is great, that pred with the pyramid scheme in 3D. it was so cool. And about those thin passage, we havent saw the thing yet, but it would like galmorzu said, have been made to alow the aliens to go everywhere, or the humans to escape.   And the queen being bitten to get free is interesting.  But the aliens would have been able to do it even without that, their blood would had done it.  Anyway, its great to c ALMOST everyone getting at least hyped for this. Was about time.   ;)  

Hey, if someone wants to nit pick let them.  As long as it's done in a resepctful way while allowing other people to feel different is fine.  My only beef is with people that bash a movie (or love it without question as the best thing since that awesome swirly mac n' cheese) and then proceed to insult people that disagree.  We get too much of that on AICN, and I really feel the community here can be a lot better than that.

Fresh Alien Terds just tells it how it is Pvt Hudson, badly yeah, but hell, the mans honest and thats what we need on this!   Hey FAT, nice to see your with us still,     ;D  

i think this hbo special is really going to help get the general public more enthusiastic.  us fans are foaming at the mouth but "the others" need a little kick in the ass.  i went to the theater in my home town (e-ville Indiana) and overheard two guys talking about the run time.  i asked them and they said what they read was something like a little over 1 and a half hours.  that is just from two guys that worked at the theater but they had nothing official wrtitten down.  so there is some hope i guess it will be adequite length.  also i dont get how people are so picky and bitchy about stuff not being factual.  they say "she dosn't look incan"  "the throwing star would cut the preds hand off" or whatever but then they dont say how unlikely it is ALIENS are living on earth right now.  its sci fi and sci fi movies shouldnt have to really follow rules.  its all about entertainment and fun which this movie is going to be full of.

Thats right. This film isn't about ' logic ' its just about hard razor adrenilin, keeping the pulses raising.

I have one  1.  WHY the HELL did the preds wanna hold their retual on earth!??  Why hold the aliens on earth?  that is SO stupid of an idea just to get humans involved in this movie.

cookies thats kinda true  i mean why not doit in there planets o well i dont mind i hope they tell us inthe films     ;D  

I would tend to agree with ismguy on the "sci fi movies shouldn't have to really follow rules" line to a certain extent.  However, good sci fi movies usually do much better when they tell a story that is plausible and realistic.  Take Star Trek for example.  While a lot of the technology is far-fetched to a point, it is still plausible given the laws of science/physics that govern said technology.  Star Trek is of course popular for many reasons and this reason is just a drop in the bucket, but it *does* contribute somewhat to the series success.  The same can be said of the Aliens movies.  Ridley Scott set the bar for the franchise by basing the technology in the story around the realm of possibility (this is most apparent in the set-design of the Nostromo/Narsisis).  Cameron followed suit in Aliens by presenting technology that is within the realm of possibility (most apparent in the design of the weapons the Colonial Marines used).  Heck... even the creature design follows some semblence of following the laws of science when you think about it.  The entire Alien lifecycle is within the realm of possibility, ranging from making the creatures silicon-based (scientists agree that any alien life that isn't carbon-based would be silicon-based due to a variety of factors) to the way the chestburster is developed (the area around the human heart is arguably the safest location in the human body after the cranium cavity).  Anyway... back to AVP (sorry for digressing for a moment), it's entirely within the realm of possibility we have alien life (creatures not of this planet) here on Earth right now.  I for one don't believe in such a thing, but I am willing to take the premise PA has come up as plausible.  A better way to say it would be I find it easy to suspend my disbelief over a Predator-designed pyramid 2000 feet under ice in Antartica that is used to house Alien creatures for a Predator "rite-of-passage" because it is entirely within the realm of possibility (there have been scientific discussions about the similiarities between Incan, Aztec, Mayan, and Egyptian stuctures for years).  Just my two-cents.  ;-)

Cookies - here's a theory for you (just a theory, mind you).  The Predators might have chosen Earth because of the overall lack of technology human civilizations had at the time.  Given the history of the "rite of passage" PA seems to be suggesting, it wouldn't be too difficult for the Predators to influence primitive civilizations.  Those civilizations probably ended up worshipping the Predators as Gods because of the vast difference in technology.  That said, the Predators would have had little trouble in "influencing" those civilizations in the direction of being used as hosts for the Aliens.  As for why the Predators chose to hold the Aliens on Earth, I would surmise because of the ready supply of potential hosts and the blind-obedience religion sometimes brings to the table.  The Predators could have chosen another planet and another host species... but at the time the Predators started this paticular "rite-of-passage", Earth probably made the most sense.

Sorry cookies, but by your standard, why the hell would the preds ever come to earth to hunt, right?  I mean, that totally makes the first two movies stupid as well?  I'm sorry, but I disagree that the idea is stupid.  From the first two pred movies we know that Earth is a very important hunting ground to the Predator race, and both of the original pred movies point this out time and time again.  They've been coming here for ages.  And best of all, there's always a huge population of humans, which are some of their preferred prey.  The fact that Earth is such an important place to their hunts, and the fact that there's so many humans here, shows you *exactly* why they would have their rituals here.  Humans possess the strength to offer interesting hunts over time, and in the past, human-kind as a species has had the capacity for intellect to actually construct these "temples" where alien hunts can be started.  Now answer this for me (and I'm not being nasty, I'm really just wondering): why is this idea so lame?

Oberon:  Very nice posts there.  They were really well put and thought out, and I agree.

Thanks Galmorzu  ;-)

WHY NOT ON EARTH ? it would be to much of a complex story to try and have the match up in space, at least having it on Earth makes for a good meeting ground. The Predators use the human beings as host for the Alien as its hunting ground, all this will be explained in the movie   :)    Boy Cookie, anyone would think that you've seen this movie already, just watch the movie aleast, yeah?  ATHOUGH, saying that perhaps for the next movie ( or 3rd    ;D  ) they could just have it with   only the Aliens and the Predators,   No humans   No dialogue WHATS SO EVER ( it would just be left up to us to guess the events that are taking place just by their actions) oh, and one more thing ...   No Earth what so ever.  So I guess Cookie you would be right, damn!   ???  

hey cookies u want an answer to your question of    1. WHY the HELL did the preds wanna hold their retual on earth!?? Why hold the aliens on earth? that is SO stupid of an idea just to get humans involved in this movie.   well think of it this way! why the hell would ur parents wanna f**k each other? that is such a stupid of an idea to get u to be born?    its just because!

Damn guys!  No need to be rude...

I was just thinking guys, but does anyone else get the feeling that the end of the AvP novel might have purposely been written different from the movie so that whatever happens in the movie suprises us?  It wouldn't be the first time something like this has happened (the novel of Independence Day is a good example of different endings).

That is entirely possible Galmorzu and not entirely unrealistic.  Given the hype machine this movie has, Fox (and PA) would have just cause to try to keep the ending of the movie a secret... even if that means leaking shooting scripts with alternate endings onto the internet or changing the novelization somewhat.  Although, on the reverse side of the coin, remember this is Fox we're dealing with here.  <SPOILER>  The same company that authorized the release of the soundtrack to Star Wars Episode 1 and had the titles "Qui-Gon's Noble End" and "Qui-Gon's Funeral" listed on the track listing on the back of the jewelcase </SPOILER>  So...  who knows...

The fear Lex shows is absolutely great.  Great, great acting.

Its sure that the novel is not the movie galmorzu, they would never do this right. They dont want to spoil the entire thing. When i was reading the novel, and that they were talkin of the alpha grid and all, and then when we saw the thing in the clip, that was suppos to be grid, and as we all saw it is not different from a normal alien.   So im sure that the end is gonna be different from what we have read .  And cookies, the thing is that PA said that he wanted to do this one on earth cuz when he saw the thing with A3, that it was suppos to be on earth and all.Then it finished to not be on earth, and he really wanted to bring the aliens on earth. The the only thing he had to do is to do a good story for it, he then saw sketches of a guy with the preds being treated as gods and voila. And the thing of the aliens ( real aliens not the aliens, lol) having built the pyramids and all. It was all logical for PA. So its not a so dumb idea and i think that your the only one complaining about it. I mean didnt you wanted to c aliens on earth too? ANd to put the fight in space wouldnt have been bad either, that is mostly what will happen later in the sequels. Hopefully.

Thank you for your welcomes. I just saw a Predator CE trailer. Something new. Im sure an AVP soundtrack will be released but who knows when. Im sure the movie doesnt end with a preds skin moving around. It will probably burst and give that little chestburster screech we have come know and then the screen will go black. That would satisfy me.

As far as the whole Pyramid concept goes, this can go back to some of the ideas Ridley Scott and H.R. Giger were throwing around during the pre-production of Alien.  A couple of concept images Giger did before doing the Derelict was of an Egg Silo that housed the Alien eggs (owners of the Alien Quadrilogy can view the Silo concept images as well as listen to Ridley discuss the idea on the commentary and Giger discuss it on the 2-hour featurette disc).  This idea was obviously scraped in favor of the Derelict, but I believe the Silo idea was fleshed out in the shooting script,  This may be part of the 40 pages of unshot script material that PA integrated into his movie.

That sort of ending would please a lot of us, Variable.  Then again... I'm of the opinion that any ending that doesn't just STOP is a good ending (one of my biggest gripes with the LotR trilogy is the way FotR and TT ended).

Fresh Alien Terds calm down aliens can sense dont have eyes and can sense the preds even when cloaked so why do it and u dont seem to be a fan of the movie so why visit the website

It would make sense for the preds to not utilize their cloak while hunting the Aliens... if for no other reason to conserve energy for other uses (the plasma cannon comes immediately to mind).  In the AvP games, running cloak slowly depleted the energy reserve... so you wouldn't utilize it if the only thing you were hunting is something that could see through the cloak effect.  Of course, from a purely cinematic perspective, how interesting would it be if the preds kept their cloak on for the majority of the film?

Well something i taught about that cloaking thing is that the preds are arriving to the pyramid cloaked right. But like sebastian said, its a trap, so the preds were knowing that there could be humans outside. So the cloaking thing. But they know that aliens r still able to c them even if cloaked so why being cloaked inside exep if its to kill the humans. When they saw that there were more humans than expected, they began killing them so that the aliens wouldnt had time to forge an army that would crush the preds. But then no need to cloak. And we dunno if the energy source for the cloaking is the same as the caster. I dont think so, that woul be dumb from the preds, they were better doin 2 seperate batteries.   But anyway, we will have the answer soon my friends.

I agree with ya... except in that HBO special, there is a quick clip of one of the Pred dropships flying over the whaling station and a human (I think it was Sebastian) looks up and sees it (the camera is on the ground at Sebastian's feet looking up towards the sky).  So it's entirely possible the preds don't know about the humans until everyone is locked up inside the pyramid.  As for the energy source(s) that power Pred technology... who knows.  I for one will be laughing my ass off if I see a Pred pull out a plasmacharger (recharging item that fires off electricity into the Pred and recharges the "battery" in the AvP games).  BTW:  Laughing in a good sense...  ;-)

Hey anyone else besides me hoping that they actually show what each of the different pred masks do in the movie.  The book does a great job of NOT explaining it.  Having different styles of masks and nothing to show for it would be stupid.

yea i got ya there, but to c the ship is one thing, but to c the preds is another. i dont really think that the preds cares about the human seing the ship. Since its high enough not to be attacked and all. But on the ground is another thing. And yes it would be fun to c that charger in tha movie. But i doubt we will since the preds r almost not using the casters and the cloaking. Its all melee baby.

FAT - the masks are probably just a personal touch... individually customized by the Predator that wears it.  Sort of like in Aliens, each Colonial Marine had their own customized body armor.  The body armor customizations were cosmetic and didn't add to or detract from the functionality of the armor.  Same theory... different movie

HellAlien - yea... ur probably right about not seeing too much caster/cloak action.  I would hope to see the spear and disc make the occasional appearance though (along with the shurikan that we've seen a pred throw).  Although... after looking at the storyboards and concept images (I refuse to look at the novelization until after I see the movie), I have reason to believe most of the spear action we'll see will be while Lex is wielding it....

Exactly.  All the masks basically do the same thing, but they are designed according to their wearer's tastes.  That's all.

Think of the mask customizations as another way of individualizing each character.  Given the fact that the Predator is a warrior-race, the mask would be the only way for the individual Predator to be "unique" (for lack of a better term).  Customizing the mask would probably be the only acceptable thing an individual of that race could do to distinguish themselves.  I would also go out on a limb and say the more complex a mask is, the the more "status" or "rank" an individual has in a clan.  The mask that Scar wears is by far the most complex of the masks seen so far, so I would believe Scar may be the son of a reknown warrior in the clan.  This sort of stuff may not be revealed in the film, but may be hinted at in the novelization or sequel movies....

OberonQA,  no the preds r using it too.  

Spoiler

scar is killin an alien with it, .

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SO lex is weilding one and the preds too. But i dunno if they r discs in this. Would be cool tho. But i think that the shurikens r the only thing we r gonna c as far as lil round deadly objects r concerned.   ;D    But it will be coo anyway.  And for those masks, i came with a supposition, maybe that they r all from diff clans so to say. That they r all coming to the same place to have the right to be in their respective clans.  OR that their masks r different lookin and acting. That they r not all doin the same thing. But do ya think that the preds r able to control their helmet with their tusks ? i taught of that when i saw P1 and P2 the other day. Cuz sometimes, it really seems like the pred is activating things without even touching his gauntlet.

Actually, if you're going by the way it looks, Celtic's mask is by far the most complex.  Scar's mask is relatively plain.

Ur right Galmorzu!  <<feeling silly>>  Guess that shoots my idea out the window.  Ah well... nice idea though.  Besides, after some thought, I came up with a small problem with my idea.  The Predator in P1 and P2 had very plain masks.  If my idea was actually true, then that would mean the Predator in both of those movies was the equivilant of a foot soldier or something.  **lol**

It's been said by Stan Winston himself that the Pred from Predator 2 was just a young, somewhat arrogant one.

when does it come to Canada???? ANd what is with the break down play by play that everyone is winning about!!??     Stay in ht elight.....for demonds do weit for thouse who wonder.

Hey guys, I know that by virtue of all the footage shown a lot of your are starting to believe that there are only going to be three Preds instead of five. I know there will be five, and here's my reason why. Okay, a lot of you said that you could only see three drop ships hit the surface. Okay, Celtic, Gill, and Scar lets say are the Preds in those pods. Okay, if the pods were the only things that needed to be sent to Earth, then what's with Quinn seeing the mothership fly overhead. I say that Gill, Scar, and Celtic arrive inititally via the pods, and the other two take the luxury ride in on the mothership and show up a little late. How bout' that theory, that sound plausible?

well doesnt sound bad C but i seen foe preds actually

good, I see that ass hole stoped impersonating me, any way, I just bought the Grid Alien, and Scar Predator figures, they are cool, but scar's 'wrist swords' are not removable, kinda stupid. but the grid alien is pretty cool. also I got a AVP pop corn bag when I went to see colateral today. dont worry guys, Ill post all the pictures of my trip that are related to AVP, that is if Darkness will post them. wnyway, good night guys, Ive got to get some sleep for universal tomorrow, and after that its AVP premiere!!! (i hope the roumer is not true) I'll see ya guys later.  also I saw AVP ad's on a cab and a bus too, fox sure isnt sparing any expence on the advertising.

Hey,some really nice stuff on this HBO special...  Go Preds Go!  Ehem,will anyone tell me whats a hooter? (example : Riply's hooters and Lex's hooters )

The fact that each room chanages and modifies into something else helps create a creep look to the crypt like pyramid, close and compact spaces ... thats what were've come to love from the Alien movies.

just a question about aliens. with thos 4 tubes on their backs, how can they land on their back at all? im not saying this is a bad point im just curiouse because i draw alof of avp and i have done the aliens on their backs.

Hrmmm... that's a good question, BigBilly.  I loaded up Alien and Aliens to observe the Alien movements (I ignored Alien3 and Alien Resurrection because we are focusing on non-genetically altered human-borne Aliens).  In Alien, the Alien was able to fit itself into a niche on the Narsisis (the lifeboat).  In Aliens, the aliens were able to lie down (once the chestburster is torched the movie shows a couple of aliens rising up from a prone position on the ground) as well as fitting into niche's in the walls of the hive.  I would say the dorsel horns (which is what the scientists in the novelization of Alien Resurrection referred to them as) are flexible and probably comprised of cartiledge (or the alien equivelent) and can bend to a certain extent without breaking.  In Aliens, there are a couple of shots with the camera behind an Alien (the alien that Vasquez shoots from the APC and gets acid-blood spilled on Drake and the alien that gets smashed by the APC while Ripley is driving the remnants of the team out of the Atmosphere Processor come immediately to mind.)  The Alien Resurrection novelization also reveals the dorsal horns are utilized by the Aliens as an alternate means of expelling airborne waste material (carbon monoxide for example) and were removed from the Ripley-clones because they were redundant and not utilzed (one of the preserved clones in the clone lab that had an Alien-like head had holes in it's back where the dorsal horns were removed.)  So... that said, draw away and don't let the dorsal horns be a problem for you.  ;-)

hey thanks OberonQA    :D   i really appreciate it

hehe - no prob man.  If you got a scanner be sure to scan some of what you draw so we can all see it.  ;-)

Here's what I think that scene with Lex going: "It's time to pick a side".  Lex: "It's time to pick a side"  Max: "Side?" <Max and Quinn locks and load> Max and Quinn: "Ours"

OberonQA, about the shot of the Predator mothership flying over the whaling station- First of all, Sebastian is already in the pyramid so I believe that guy is Quinn. Secondly, I doubt 2 predators would actually stay behind on the mothership while the others simply landed in pods. I don't find the logic in that. It's more than likely that the ship is just down a low flyby just before actually sending out the landing pods for Scar, Celtic and Gill. I believe this is also mentioned in the novel.

Where the hell did all the aliens come from?  There was only a small band of people seen going into the pyramid.  Are these the ones that overwhelmed the Predators in the past.  Effects look ok.  Hope it's good, I'll be going to see it either way.  Y'know just to seem them again.

All the shots with the 3 predators on the pyramid and the hordes of aliens are from the portions of the film that occur in the past, like Paul Anderson explained in the first featurette.

Man!!! I knew this site wouldn't let me down!!! Got to see the special afterall (no HBO). Anyway, AVP looks better and better with the new shit I see. Already bought the Predator's CE DVD this weekend and got my AVP ticket ready!! 5 more days man, 5 more days!!!  This movie is going to be the best movie of my life (up to now, we'll see AVP2!!!)

Hey predguy, of course its logical man. I mean damn, the pods looked like they were dropped from very high altitude, almost upper atmosphere. So why then would the ship bother to do a fly-by, then climb back to that altitude again, dont make much sense. Guess you forgot that the book mentions five Preds huh. Nice try, but you didn't get very far with your theory either.

Well, I don't know - it's just my opinion. The way I see it, that's how it happens. You might see it a different way. In fact, in special, the shot where you see the 3 pods visibility isn't all that great to begin with. You might be right, but then again the only way we could be sure it's to watch the movie.  I still feel it's odd that Paul Anderson has said that there are going to be 5 preds, the novel says there are 5 and we've only seen 3. If there are more predators, I really want to see them.

two predators probly stay on top out side like the elder predator and three go into the piramid.

Dogman, got a ticket for me?   ;D  

I already have my tickets for the Midnight show on Thursday!! I'm very excited!! The wait is over!!! the Cool thing is that on Saturday I'm going to Wizardworld Chicago and I'm sure it'll be loaded with AvP stuff!!  Saludos

When it shows here in the UK , I going to go the late night showing, THE LATEST!!!     heh! heh! heh! THIS FILM IS GOING TO LITERALLY RAISE THE ROOF OFF ...   ... COM - PLET - E - LY!   ;D  

okey i just want to get this straight scar predator is a pretty cool prdator but celtic will beat the shit out of him how come everybody on this website like scar more.We all now how scar predator dies he has a chest burster in him.

Guys you can see one of the unkown Preds in the trailer.... He's the one with the technology built in the mask shown in the featurettes. In the trailer it's the Predator getting held down by a couple of aliens and there is Green blood everywhere. You can see the technology part of his mask for a split second (1:55 seconds in) when his head turns and I know it's not Scar because of the missing middle armor plate. Scar Pred also has bones and skulls aroudn his neck while I don't see any one this one. It's also the same Predator that cuts the face hugger in half.

Celtics the don   ;D   I suppose were all looking at how far the film pans out, seeing more of the Scar Pred. in action is hyping alot of people up, I LOVE 'EM BOTH!

Mich, people like Scar better because he is more of a bad ass than Celtic.  

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Grid alien kills Celtic even after getting a serious beat down. Scar fights Grid twice and beats his ass both times. Also Scar happens to be the ONLY Predator out of the 5 to kill an Alien, let alone 3

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Technically Scar even kills EVERY Alien (minus the Queen) because he detonates his bomb (after detaching it of course   8)   ) However even though Scar didn't actually deliver a death blow to the queen, he is quite responisble for her death, so yeah Scar IS the ultimate bad ass Pred  

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