Title: Shane Black & Fred Dekker's Early Draft of The Predator
Post by: Corporal Hicks on Jan 31, 2019, 01:03:44 PM
Post by: Corporal Hicks on Jan 31, 2019, 01:03:44 PM
It’s no secret than an early draft of The Predator had been making its way around behind closed doors over the last few years. Now that the film’s theatrical release has come and gone and the film is available on home release, we’ve now uploaded the script into our downloads section.
This particular draft is dated April 17, 2016 and is noted as a revised draft. It’s currently unknown just how many drafts of The Predator have been completed but this particular draft features, among many other things, the Emissary Predators and Edward James’ Olmos’ General Woodhurst.
You can also check out scripts for the rest of the Alien and Predator films, including 3 scripts for Alien: Covenant, in our Downloads section. Head on over and give them a read!
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Title: Re: Shane Black & Fred Dekker's Early Draft of The Predator
Post by: Whiskeybrewer on Jan 31, 2019, 02:27:26 PM
Post by: Whiskeybrewer on Jan 31, 2019, 02:27:26 PM
Well im finally gonna download this now
Title: Re: Shane Black & Fred Dekker’s Early Draft of The Predator
Post by: AVP-CAPCOM on Jan 31, 2019, 04:33:09 PM
Post by: AVP-CAPCOM on Jan 31, 2019, 04:33:09 PM
I just sped read through all that, homing in on unfamiliar parts.
I can definately say that was a better movie than the one we got. I think the reshoots were more to do with budget and projected budget to finish effect shots than "audience feedback". I'd say to complete effects for certain scenes including the APC chase (which involved being chased on a road by escaped "Hybrids" exactly as described in leaked ADI images) the Taco stand shoot-out and AREA-52 Starship Trooper-esque/Zulu seige they were looking at another $50 million.
Nowhere was there the night-time "crash landing site" standoff and woodland battle with Upgrade PREDATOR with it being set on fire or the Traeger's and McKenna's men team-up. That was a complete reshoot as Traeger's original death was a mere sniper bullet headshot.
The said Taco Stand shoot-out, Seige at Area 52 with "Ark Hybrids" Emissary Predator and APC to escape the carnage of Hybrids, jeep crashes and Rory "commandeering" the upgrade PREDATOR's ship Flight of the Navigator style (using autism to pilot the ship) happen:
- After the "Traeger and Mercs Barn interrogation of McKenna and Casey" complete with pred-dog with a grenade fetched in its mouth, right up until we see Upgrade running off with Rory to his ship to put him in the capsule.
Ideas and lines of dialogue are more fleshed out
The opening scene shows the PREDATOR homeplanet in a pre-apocalyptic state and the (unfilmed) "ARK" being towed by cables in space "rather than dogfight". We are mesmerised by cargo rather than PREDATOR infighting.
Page 78 the spinal fluid McGuffin is described at the "Barn- Farmyard" scene page 78 (rather than Project Stargazer) between McKenna and Casey (Munn). She says spinal fluid to predator's is like a drug that effects their own reptilian part of their brain within the cerebellum which is attached to a spine. Which also goes into the foreshadowed (but scrapped) hybridisation sub-plot.
The PREDATOR's primal urge to hunt and survive merges with a human's at a reptilian level.
This exchange is more fleshed out and explained than the throwaway Traeger Casey dialogue of the much earlier scene in the final movie "did someone f**k an alien?"
Predator dogs more gory and scene where one of Tragers men mauled by two of them. But other than that identical in the script to the final movie, where even the script has the "labotamised" pred-dog who becomes a walking kit bag, reoccuring comic relief.
After the "barn interrogation" page 103 is where Taco stand shoot-out in Florida to find the "Ark" with hybrids.
Pages 107-120 is the Emissary Predator's introduction at Area 52, reveal of Hybrid Spiders, predator monkeys etc and swinging blue monkey predator's.
Some other notable key differences between the script and the final movie that run parallel but were scaled back or slimed down due to complexity or budget costs against ambitious concepts. Overall the movie is exactly the same as the script, but misses key scene due to (I'd say) budget issues mid-filming.
- I feel the night-time Upgrade PREDATOR battle crash site filmed to replace APC "break-out" was reeled in cause it required less special effects.
- The opening crash scene took place at a Drug Cartel's mansion in Cuba rather than South America, with the mansion (rather than a telecommunication tower) getting wiped out. There was a scene where it was inferred the PREDATOR slained cartel's private army off-screen but heard.
- No (controversal) use of photo stills from previous PREDATOR movies. Instead "helicopter footage of a PREDATOR causing carnage at (non filmed) crash site with Cuban drug lords in Cuba rather than hostage exchange.
- Rory's Halloween segment it was infered he did intend to destroy the stoner's house, killing occupants, with the helmet as he conciously controlled the thing and it was revenge for being intimidated rather than "accident". This also was an early inference that he could control PREDATOR tech.
- Jake Busey's character Keyes was NOT in the script- instead a generic scientist called Cowell
- Page 33 there was mention by Rorry's Mum of "Frankenstein meets Wolfman" as a potential "easter egg" during (Frankenstein or Pirate). As you know Frankenstein Meets Wolfman was a 1943 early "vs" movie and the ALIEN VS PREDATOR of it's day. Great idea for a movie but disappointing critical response. Critics used this 1943 movie to crticise AVP-2004 upon release.
- Page 34 the PREDATOR mask is described as "classic design (sic) as seen in five seperate films". Speaking of which multiple humans don captured PREDATOR masks.
- Edward James Olmos "General Woodhurst" character was there to confirm that Traeger's character was a renegade and a rogue character acting arbitrary from the US Government, citing "not declaring live capture and escape of "fugative" predator. This impartiality character is how McKenna and the Loonies were able to access Area 52 and meet the Emissary predator's who could speak broken english (kind of like fugative who used voice activation at Project Stargazer to open the door).
- Rory's character is more fleshed out to the point where it kind of makes sense why upgrade PREDATOR wanted "spectrum learning". There is a fierce debate in real-life about whether spectrum learning is high intelligence or a disability that hinders an otherwise functioning person. A movie like THE PREDATOR was probably not the best platform for this discussion, especially as multiple lines were cut, but they did try........
- Oh and there was no PREDATOR killer ending or "capsules" or McKenna taking over Project Stargazer or ALIENS references. It was
That's about it.
Anymore detail you might as well read the script. :D
I can definately say that was a better movie than the one we got. I think the reshoots were more to do with budget and projected budget to finish effect shots than "audience feedback". I'd say to complete effects for certain scenes including the APC chase (which involved being chased on a road by escaped "Hybrids" exactly as described in leaked ADI images) the Taco stand shoot-out and AREA-52 Starship Trooper-esque/Zulu seige they were looking at another $50 million.
Nowhere was there the night-time "crash landing site" standoff and woodland battle with Upgrade PREDATOR with it being set on fire or the Traeger's and McKenna's men team-up. That was a complete reshoot as Traeger's original death was a mere sniper bullet headshot.
The said Taco Stand shoot-out, Seige at Area 52 with "Ark Hybrids" Emissary Predator and APC to escape the carnage of Hybrids, jeep crashes and Rory "commandeering" the upgrade PREDATOR's ship Flight of the Navigator style (using autism to pilot the ship) happen:
- After the "Traeger and Mercs Barn interrogation of McKenna and Casey" complete with pred-dog with a grenade fetched in its mouth, right up until we see Upgrade running off with Rory to his ship to put him in the capsule.
Ideas and lines of dialogue are more fleshed out
The opening scene shows the PREDATOR homeplanet in a pre-apocalyptic state and the (unfilmed) "ARK" being towed by cables in space "rather than dogfight". We are mesmerised by cargo rather than PREDATOR infighting.
Page 78 the spinal fluid McGuffin is described at the "Barn- Farmyard" scene page 78 (rather than Project Stargazer) between McKenna and Casey (Munn). She says spinal fluid to predator's is like a drug that effects their own reptilian part of their brain within the cerebellum which is attached to a spine. Which also goes into the foreshadowed (but scrapped) hybridisation sub-plot.
The PREDATOR's primal urge to hunt and survive merges with a human's at a reptilian level.
This exchange is more fleshed out and explained than the throwaway Traeger Casey dialogue of the much earlier scene in the final movie "did someone f**k an alien?"
Predator dogs more gory and scene where one of Tragers men mauled by two of them. But other than that identical in the script to the final movie, where even the script has the "labotamised" pred-dog who becomes a walking kit bag, reoccuring comic relief.
After the "barn interrogation" page 103 is where Taco stand shoot-out in Florida to find the "Ark" with hybrids.
Pages 107-120 is the Emissary Predator's introduction at Area 52, reveal of Hybrid Spiders, predator monkeys etc and swinging blue monkey predator's.
Some other notable key differences between the script and the final movie that run parallel but were scaled back or slimed down due to complexity or budget costs against ambitious concepts. Overall the movie is exactly the same as the script, but misses key scene due to (I'd say) budget issues mid-filming.
- I feel the night-time Upgrade PREDATOR battle crash site filmed to replace APC "break-out" was reeled in cause it required less special effects.
- The opening crash scene took place at a Drug Cartel's mansion in Cuba rather than South America, with the mansion (rather than a telecommunication tower) getting wiped out. There was a scene where it was inferred the PREDATOR slained cartel's private army off-screen but heard.
- No (controversal) use of photo stills from previous PREDATOR movies. Instead "helicopter footage of a PREDATOR causing carnage at (non filmed) crash site with Cuban drug lords in Cuba rather than hostage exchange.
- Rory's Halloween segment it was infered he did intend to destroy the stoner's house, killing occupants, with the helmet as he conciously controlled the thing and it was revenge for being intimidated rather than "accident". This also was an early inference that he could control PREDATOR tech.
- Jake Busey's character Keyes was NOT in the script- instead a generic scientist called Cowell
- Page 33 there was mention by Rorry's Mum of "Frankenstein meets Wolfman" as a potential "easter egg" during (Frankenstein or Pirate). As you know Frankenstein Meets Wolfman was a 1943 early "vs" movie and the ALIEN VS PREDATOR of it's day. Great idea for a movie but disappointing critical response. Critics used this 1943 movie to crticise AVP-2004 upon release.
- Page 34 the PREDATOR mask is described as "classic design (sic) as seen in five seperate films". Speaking of which multiple humans don captured PREDATOR masks.
- Edward James Olmos "General Woodhurst" character was there to confirm that Traeger's character was a renegade and a rogue character acting arbitrary from the US Government, citing "not declaring live capture and escape of "fugative" predator. This impartiality character is how McKenna and the Loonies were able to access Area 52 and meet the Emissary predator's who could speak broken english (kind of like fugative who used voice activation at Project Stargazer to open the door).
- Rory's character is more fleshed out to the point where it kind of makes sense why upgrade PREDATOR wanted "spectrum learning". There is a fierce debate in real-life about whether spectrum learning is high intelligence or a disability that hinders an otherwise functioning person. A movie like THE PREDATOR was probably not the best platform for this discussion, especially as multiple lines were cut, but they did try........
- Oh and there was no PREDATOR killer ending or "capsules" or McKenna taking over Project Stargazer or ALIENS references. It was
Spoiler
After upgrade PREDATOR is killed exactly as final movie. Arnold Schwarzenegger emerges reprising his role as Dutch Schaefer arriving in a helicopter to take McKenna and Rory with the words "come with me"
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That's about it.
Anymore detail you might as well read the script. :D
Title: Re: Shane Black & Fred Dekker's Early Draft of The Predator
Post by: ToxicFanvenger on Jan 31, 2019, 07:28:42 PM
Post by: ToxicFanvenger on Jan 31, 2019, 07:28:42 PM
This is the "genius" script that Fox and us mean ole fanbois "ruined"?
Title: Re: Shane Black & Fred Dekker's Early Draft of The Predator
Post by: Wombat-Sue on Jan 31, 2019, 07:42:13 PM
Post by: Wombat-Sue on Jan 31, 2019, 07:42:13 PM
It's kind of shocking that this was the script so many people were using to defend The Predator pre release. It's bad, really bad. And man is either Fred Dekker or Shane Black (probably both) really impressed with their own writing.
What an embarrassing piece of trash. For everyone involved, including its defenders.
What an embarrassing piece of trash. For everyone involved, including its defenders.
Title: Re: Shane Black & Fred Dekker's Early Draft of The Predator
Post by: KiramidHead on Jan 31, 2019, 08:29:59 PM
Post by: KiramidHead on Jan 31, 2019, 08:29:59 PM
I still stand by this script as a fun read. I do think the climax is overly long, but I'll take a lengthy action sequence over a bunch of dudes wandering around in the woods any day.
Title: Re: Shane Black & Fred Dekker’s Early Draft of The Pre...
Post by: D88M on Feb 01, 2019, 01:40:49 AM
Post by: D88M on Feb 01, 2019, 01:40:49 AM
Quote from: Wombat-Sue on Jan 31, 2019, 07:42:13 PM
It's kind of shocking that this was the script so many people were using to defend The Predator pre release. It's bad, really bad. And man is either Fred Dekker or Shane Black (probably both) really impressed with their own writing.
What an embarrassing piece of trash. For everyone involved, including its defenders.
I wish i could "like" this comment. But there was people defending this? Really? I though the consensus was that the movie was awful right from the script.
Title: Re: Shane Black & Fred Dekker’s Early Draft of The Pre...
Post by: AhabPredator on Feb 01, 2019, 01:45:27 AM
Post by: AhabPredator on Feb 01, 2019, 01:45:27 AM
Quote from: D88M on Feb 01, 2019, 01:40:49 AMQuote from: Wombat-Sue on Jan 31, 2019, 07:42:13 PM
It's kind of shocking that this was the script so many people were using to defend The Predator pre release. It's bad, really bad. And man is either Fred Dekker or Shane Black (probably both) really impressed with their own writing.
What an embarrassing piece of trash. For everyone involved, including its defenders.
I wish i could "like" this comment. But there was people defending this? Really? I though the consensus was that the movie was awful right from the script.
Yep.
Spoiler
(https://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FSwS0lje.jpg&hash=40461c6f3c47814a3ae8265a99ec918a6c2d1c72)
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Title: Re: Shane Black & Fred Dekker’s Early Draft of The Predator
Post by: Wysps on Feb 01, 2019, 01:46:59 AM
Post by: Wysps on Feb 01, 2019, 01:46:59 AM
I'm very much out of the online / social media loop. What site is that from?
Title: Re: Shane Black & Fred Dekker’s Early Draft of The Predator
Post by: AhabPredator on Feb 01, 2019, 01:53:46 AM
Post by: AhabPredator on Feb 01, 2019, 01:53:46 AM
Quote from: Wysps on Feb 01, 2019, 01:46:59 AM
I'm very much out of the online / social media loop. What site is that from?
A certain Predator themed phone application.
Title: Re: Shane Black & Fred Dekker’s Early Draft of The Pre...
Post by: Samhain13 on Feb 01, 2019, 02:03:24 AM
Post by: Samhain13 on Feb 01, 2019, 02:03:24 AM
Quote from: AhabPredator on Feb 01, 2019, 01:45:27 AMSpoiler
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Wat. That's some low standards. Things are quite calm in here, next to some other sites.
Title: Re: Shane Black & Fred Dekker’s Early Draft of The Predator
Post by: Wysps on Feb 01, 2019, 02:06:55 AM
Post by: Wysps on Feb 01, 2019, 02:06:55 AM
Well, it doesn't seem that particular individual's opinion was highly regarded, in any event :laugh:
Title: Re: Shane Black & Fred Dekker’s Early Draft of The Pre...
Post by: Huggs on Feb 01, 2019, 02:10:04 AM
Post by: Huggs on Feb 01, 2019, 02:10:04 AM
I don't think I have the strength.
Oh Freddy Boy, the fans, the fans aren't toxic
From site to site across the galaxy
The deed is done, the script defied all logic
The fault's not ours, it solely lies with thee
Quote from: AhabPredator on Feb 01, 2019, 01:45:27 AMSpoiler
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Oh Freddy Boy, the fans, the fans aren't toxic
From site to site across the galaxy
The deed is done, the script defied all logic
The fault's not ours, it solely lies with thee
Title: Re: Shane Black & Fred Dekker’s Early Draft of The Predator
Post by: Corporal Hicks on Feb 01, 2019, 06:24:54 AM
Post by: Corporal Hicks on Feb 01, 2019, 06:24:54 AM
And people are allowed to like this. No one gets to insult those who do.
Title: Re: Shane Black & Fred Dekker’s Early Draft of The Predator
Post by: skhellter on Feb 01, 2019, 03:39:04 PM
Post by: skhellter on Feb 01, 2019, 03:39:04 PM
It was a 100% goofball script but at least it made a minimum of sense...
sense that the re-shoots managed to remove.
But the tone was all over the place even in the script.
I was hopeful that the final product was gonna be better (it was an early draft, after all).. but...no.
It didn't help that the directing and cinematography was... bad and TV-like.
That all the new designs done for the film felt generic
and uninspired and like something out of a cheap looking Marvel Tv Show.
Predator Killer endings felt like a desperate attempt by Fox at getting their own MCU going.
A bad job all around. Ridiculous film.
sense that the re-shoots managed to remove.
But the tone was all over the place even in the script.
I was hopeful that the final product was gonna be better (it was an early draft, after all).. but...no.
It didn't help that the directing and cinematography was... bad and TV-like.
That all the new designs done for the film felt generic
and uninspired and like something out of a cheap looking Marvel Tv Show.
Predator Killer endings felt like a desperate attempt by Fox at getting their own MCU going.
A bad job all around. Ridiculous film.
Title: Re: Shane Black & Fred Dekker’s Early Draft of The Predator
Post by: Huggs on Feb 01, 2019, 04:17:02 PM
Post by: Huggs on Feb 01, 2019, 04:17:02 PM
Quote from: Corporal Hicks on Feb 01, 2019, 06:24:54 AM
And people are allowed to like this. No one gets to insult those who do.
No insult was implied to anyone Hicks.
Title: Re: Shane Black & Fred Dekker’s Early Draft of The Predator
Post by: AhabPredator on Feb 01, 2019, 04:22:43 PM
Post by: AhabPredator on Feb 01, 2019, 04:22:43 PM
Quote from: Huggs on Feb 01, 2019, 04:17:02 PMQuote from: Corporal Hicks on Feb 01, 2019, 06:24:54 AM
And people are allowed to like this. No one gets to insult those who do.
No insult was implied to anyone Hicks.
[/quote
Not from anyone at Avpgalaxy at least. Lol.
Title: Re: Shane Black & Fred Dekker’s Early Draft of The Predator
Post by: BigDaddyJohn on Feb 01, 2019, 06:57:13 PM
Post by: BigDaddyJohn on Feb 01, 2019, 06:57:13 PM
Quote from: skhellter on Feb 01, 2019, 03:39:04 PM
It didn't help that the directing and cinematography was... bad and TV-like.
There was a few good directing moments though, along with a few really cool ideas
Title: Re: Shane Black & Fred Dekker’s Early Draft of The Pre...
Post by: The Old One on Feb 01, 2019, 06:58:16 PM
Post by: The Old One on Feb 01, 2019, 06:58:16 PM
For as bad as it looked, I will always be a fan of the blood revealing the Predator's face idea.
It's such a great idea on so many levels.
It's such a great idea on so many levels.
Title: Re: Shane Black & Fred Dekker’s Early Draft of The Pre...
Post by: BigDaddyJohn on Feb 01, 2019, 06:59:21 PM
Post by: BigDaddyJohn on Feb 01, 2019, 06:59:21 PM
Quote from: The Old One on Feb 01, 2019, 06:58:16 PM
For as bad as it looked, I will always be a fan of the blood revealing the Predator's face idea.
It's such a great idea on so many levels.
Exactly !
Title: Re: Shane Black & Fred Dekker’s Early Draft of The Pre...
Post by: The Old One on Feb 01, 2019, 07:02:34 PM
Post by: The Old One on Feb 01, 2019, 07:02:34 PM
It doesn't just in "literal" terms reveal Fugitive's face, it also reveals his nature he "literally" bathes in human blood.
Which could've been so more effective in a better film.
Perhaps if we gave a shit about who's blood it was.
Which could've been so more effective in a better film.
Perhaps if we gave a shit about who's blood it was.
Title: Re: Shane Black & Fred Dekker’s Early Draft of The Pre...
Post by: D88M on Feb 01, 2019, 07:28:58 PM
Post by: D88M on Feb 01, 2019, 07:28:58 PM
Quote from: AhabPredator on Feb 01, 2019, 01:45:27 AMQuote from: D88M on Feb 01, 2019, 01:40:49 AMQuote from: Wombat-Sue on Jan 31, 2019, 07:42:13 PM
It's kind of shocking that this was the script so many people were using to defend The Predator pre release. It's bad, really bad. And man is either Fred Dekker or Shane Black (probably both) really impressed with their own writing.
What an embarrassing piece of trash. For everyone involved, including its defenders.
I wish i could "like" this comment. But there was people defending this? Really? I though the consensus was that the movie was awful right from the script.
Yep.Spoiler
(https://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FSwS0lje.jpg&hash=40461c6f3c47814a3ae8265a99ec918a6c2d1c72)[close]
Oh man, LMAO, if they think this is a "toxic" forum, when is actually one of the best in every aspect, that person is gonna get a heart attack if goes to a place like reddit.
Title: Re: Shane Black & Fred Dekker’s Early Draft of The Pre...
Post by: AhabPredator on Feb 01, 2019, 07:56:59 PM
Post by: AhabPredator on Feb 01, 2019, 07:56:59 PM
Quote from: D88M on Feb 01, 2019, 07:28:58 PMQuote from: AhabPredator on Feb 01, 2019, 01:45:27 AMQuote from: D88M on Feb 01, 2019, 01:40:49 AMQuote from: Wombat-Sue on Jan 31, 2019, 07:42:13 PM
It's kind of shocking that this was the script so many people were using to defend The Predator pre release. It's bad, really bad. And man is either Fred Dekker or Shane Black (probably both) really impressed with their own writing.
What an embarrassing piece of trash. For everyone involved, including its defenders.
I wish i could "like" this comment. But there was people defending this? Really? I though the consensus was that the movie was awful right from the script.
Yep.Spoiler
(https://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FSwS0lje.jpg&hash=40461c6f3c47814a3ae8265a99ec918a6c2d1c72)[close]
Oh man, LMAO, if they think this is a "toxic" forum, when is actually one of the best in every aspect, that person is gonna get a heart attack if goes to a place like reddit.
He took (any) criticism of the movie as a personal attack. Unless you 100% worshipped it, he became militant about the issue. He said he was going to screen write for a movie and that was the last I heard from him before a public meltdown about me posting the article where Decker called fans toxic (without specifying there were ones who weren't). He went absolutely Nuclear.
Title: Re: Shane Black & Fred Dekker’s Early Draft of The Pre...
Post by: The Old One on Feb 01, 2019, 08:49:08 PM
Post by: The Old One on Feb 01, 2019, 08:49:08 PM
Ugh.
Title: Re: Shane Black & Fred Dekker’s Early Draft of The Pre...
Post by: AhabPredator on Feb 01, 2019, 09:37:21 PM
Post by: AhabPredator on Feb 01, 2019, 09:37:21 PM
Title: Re: Shane Black & Fred Dekker’s Early Draft of The Pre...
Post by: Huggs on Feb 01, 2019, 09:45:27 PM
Post by: Huggs on Feb 01, 2019, 09:45:27 PM
Quote from: AhabPredator on Feb 01, 2019, 09:37:21 PMQuote from: The Old One on Feb 01, 2019, 08:49:08 PM
Ugh.
???
It's just gas.
Title: Re: Shane Black & Fred Dekker’s Early Draft of The Pre...
Post by: The Old One on Feb 01, 2019, 09:59:26 PM
Post by: The Old One on Feb 01, 2019, 09:59:26 PM
Quote from: AhabPredator on Feb 01, 2019, 09:37:20 PMQuote from: The Old One on Feb 01, 2019, 08:49:08 PM
Ugh.
???
The Predator's production.
Title: Re: Shane Black & Fred Dekker’s Early Draft of The Pre...
Post by: KiramidHead on Feb 01, 2019, 10:04:35 PM
Post by: KiramidHead on Feb 01, 2019, 10:04:35 PM
Honestly, part of me wishes Black jut made The Nice Guys vs Predator. *Spine gets ripped out* "That's... that's a lot of blood..." :laugh:
Title: Re: Shane Black & Fred Dekker’s Early Draft of The Pre...
Post by: AhabPredator on Feb 02, 2019, 01:21:40 AM
Post by: AhabPredator on Feb 02, 2019, 01:21:40 AM
Quote from: KiramidHead on Feb 01, 2019, 10:04:35 PM
Honestly, part of me wishes Black jut made The Nice Guys vs Predator. *Spine gets ripped out* "That's... that's a lot of blood..." :laugh:
That's essentially the formula that he did.
Title: Re: Shane Black & Fred Dekker’s Early Draft of The Pre...
Post by: Wysps on Feb 02, 2019, 02:09:48 AM
Post by: Wysps on Feb 02, 2019, 02:09:48 AM
Quote from: AhabPredator on Feb 02, 2019, 01:21:40 AMQuote from: KiramidHead on Feb 01, 2019, 10:04:35 PM
Honestly, part of me wishes Black jut made The Nice Guys vs Predator. *Spine gets ripped out* "That's... that's a lot of blood..." :laugh:
That's essentially the formula that he did.
I can see it.
(Would have preferred a movie with a Long Kiss Goodnight feel over a Nice Guys feel, but that's just me...)
Title: Re: Shane Black & Fred Dekker’s Early Draft of The Predator
Post by: BigDaddyJohn on Feb 02, 2019, 02:25:36 AM
Post by: BigDaddyJohn on Feb 02, 2019, 02:25:36 AM
Honestly it has a lot of a "The A Team vs Preds" vibe :laugh:
Title: Re: Shane Black & Fred Dekker's Early Draft of The Predator
Post by: Enjoy on Feb 02, 2019, 02:50:00 AM
Post by: Enjoy on Feb 02, 2019, 02:50:00 AM
A detective story in a large city would have been better.
I will say the predator plot makes predator's plot seem way better when you go back and watch it..
I will say the predator plot makes predator's plot seem way better when you go back and watch it..
Title: Re: Shane Black & Fred Dekker’s Early Draft of The Predator
Post by: AhabPredator on Feb 02, 2019, 03:35:01 AM
Post by: AhabPredator on Feb 02, 2019, 03:35:01 AM
Quote from: BigDaddyJohn on Feb 02, 2019, 02:25:36 AM
Honestly it has a lot of a "The A Team vs Preds" vibe :laugh:
D-Movie A Team. ;D
Title: Re: Shane Black & Fred Dekker's Early Draft of The Predator
Post by: Ahsoka on Feb 02, 2019, 02:08:20 PM
Post by: Ahsoka on Feb 02, 2019, 02:08:20 PM
Thank you for sharing this !
Title: Re: Shane Black & Fred Dekker’s Early Draft of The Predator
Post by: AVP-CAPCOM on Feb 02, 2019, 04:44:55 PM
Post by: AVP-CAPCOM on Feb 02, 2019, 04:44:55 PM
Quote from: BigDaddyJohn on Feb 02, 2019, 02:25:36 AM
Honestly it has a lot of a "The A Team vs Preds" vibe :laugh:
You've just given me a 2010 throwback.
Both PREDATORS and A-Team (2010 remake) were both released Summer of 2010.
Good times. ;D
Title: Re: Shane Black & Fred Dekker's Early Draft of The Predator
Post by: ColenP on Feb 02, 2019, 06:15:21 PM
Post by: ColenP on Feb 02, 2019, 06:15:21 PM
This script was more cringe inducing than the movie, though a little more coherent.
Either Fred Dekker just turns everything he touches to crap or Shane Black lost whatever talent he had in the eighties.
Either Fred Dekker just turns everything he touches to crap or Shane Black lost whatever talent he had in the eighties.
Title: Re: Shane Black & Fred Dekker’s Early Draft of The Predator
Post by: Corporal Hicks on Feb 02, 2019, 07:26:13 PM
Post by: Corporal Hicks on Feb 02, 2019, 07:26:13 PM
Quote from: Huggs on Feb 01, 2019, 04:17:02 PMQuote from: Corporal Hicks on Feb 01, 2019, 06:24:54 AM
And people are allowed to like this. No one gets to insult those who do.
No insult was implied to anyone Hicks.
Twasn't directed at you. Just a general comment.
Title: Re: Shane Black & Fred Dekker's Early Draft of The Predator
Post by: AName on Feb 03, 2019, 12:21:28 AM
Post by: AName on Feb 03, 2019, 12:21:28 AM
Shit, if we're pitching ideas for how the movie "should" have been, some of the elements of the script could be the foundation of a good film.
A Predator ship crashlands in an unlikely location for a Pred hunt. A naive wide eyed UFO chaser who thinks they're going to meet up with E.T. gets mixed up with the shell shocked survivor of a Predator looking for revenge, while the military also tries to capture the Predator. Keep the themes of from the first three movies, but flip the script because now the Predator is the one being hunted and its more dangerous than any before because now there are no rules. The gloves are off.
But no we got Monster Squad by way of MCU crap.
A Predator ship crashlands in an unlikely location for a Pred hunt. A naive wide eyed UFO chaser who thinks they're going to meet up with E.T. gets mixed up with the shell shocked survivor of a Predator looking for revenge, while the military also tries to capture the Predator. Keep the themes of from the first three movies, but flip the script because now the Predator is the one being hunted and its more dangerous than any before because now there are no rules. The gloves are off.
But no we got Monster Squad by way of MCU crap.
Title: Re: Shane Black & Fred Dekker’s Early Draft of The Predator
Post by: Huggs on Feb 03, 2019, 01:14:36 AM
Post by: Huggs on Feb 03, 2019, 01:14:36 AM
Quote from: Corporal Hicks on Feb 02, 2019, 07:26:13 PMQuote from: Huggs on Feb 01, 2019, 04:17:02 PMQuote from: Corporal Hicks on Feb 01, 2019, 06:24:54 AM
And people are allowed to like this. No one gets to insult those who do.
No insult was implied to anyone Hicks.
Twasn't directed at you. Just a general comment.
Ah, so it was.
Title: Re: Shane Black & Fred Dekker's Early Draft of The Predator
Post by: Rev Sabotage on Feb 03, 2019, 01:48:04 AM
Post by: Rev Sabotage on Feb 03, 2019, 01:48:04 AM
How about making some prequels...
predators vs Samurais for example
predators vs Samurais for example
Title: Re: Shane Black & Fred Dekker's Early Draft of The Predator
Post by: matthewjn on Feb 10, 2019, 03:24:02 AM
Post by: matthewjn on Feb 10, 2019, 03:24:02 AM
It's been a month since I've been here, and I don't know whether to be surprised or not Huggs is still claiming the fans aren't toxic.
Title: Re: Shane Black & Fred Dekker’s Early Draft of The Pre...
Post by: The Old One on Feb 10, 2019, 03:34:48 AM
Post by: The Old One on Feb 10, 2019, 03:34:48 AM
Predator Resurrection over here. :laugh:
No one cares.
Title: Re: Shane Black & Fred Dekker's Early Draft of The Predator
Post by: morseman on Feb 10, 2019, 10:04:46 AM
Post by: morseman on Feb 10, 2019, 10:04:46 AM
I don't know man, looking at the script there were a few snippets that could have improved the movie somewhat, though I preferred having Sean Keyes as the scientist.
All said, this script runs more like a fan fic than anything else.
Damn shame, I can see what seller was trying to do, misguided as it is in hindsight but I'm buggered if I know what the hell Black was thinking, both this script and the final film are rampantly out of control :(
All said, this script runs more like a fan fic than anything else.
Damn shame, I can see what seller was trying to do, misguided as it is in hindsight but I'm buggered if I know what the hell Black was thinking, both this script and the final film are rampantly out of control :(