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Poll
Question: What's your favourite Predator movie?
Option 1: Predator 1 votes: 595
Option 2: Predator 2 votes: 177
Option 3: Predators votes: 28
Option 4: The Predator votes: 3
Title: Favourite Predator Movie?
Post by: Darkness on Nov 01, 2006, 08:09:10 AM
What's your favourite Predator movie?
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Post by: Corporal Hicks on Nov 05, 2006, 08:48:13 PM
You know. I love 'em both. I find them both really entertaining. It's so hard to choose.
Title: Re: Favourite Predator Movie?
Post by: Darkness on Nov 17, 2006, 10:58:16 PM
I love them both too. But I've always loved the first Predator movie. Especially since Arnie's in it.
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Post by: The Ultimate Predator on Nov 17, 2006, 11:13:46 PM
First. Arnie isn't much of an actor at all, but its all pulled off great, such a classic. 2 wasn't as good, but a good sequel, got some awesome scenes in it.
Title: Re: Favourite Predator Movie?
Post by: Darkness on Nov 20, 2006, 11:20:24 PM
Yeah, but Predator isn't really about the acting, is it.
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Post by: The Ultimate Predator on Nov 21, 2006, 10:19:36 AM
I suppose not, but its what I look out for in films, I have to believe their acting, and all I'm saying it was pulled off.
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Post by: ButtZilla on Dec 11, 2006, 01:07:17 AM
Best one is the 1st Predator but I also love Predator 2. Has its moments.  ;)
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Post by: The Ultimate Predator on Dec 11, 2006, 07:42:52 AM
Its moments yes. But its not consistently good.
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Post by: ButtZilla on Dec 11, 2006, 08:40:44 AM
Cool new weapons, Alien trophy in the ship and the lost hunters. :)

Although I think Predator 2 is a bit weak considering he's only taking on cops and Danny. Losing an arm in the battle also getting owned on your own mothership.  :-\
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Post by: The Ultimate Predator on Dec 11, 2006, 09:29:04 AM
Getting owned, lol. I dunno, I just think the whole jungle theme is what makes Predator great.
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Post by: ButtZilla on Dec 11, 2006, 10:10:49 AM
true. Jungles and the wild is where the beasts rule also where you hunt to survive too.  :P
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Post by: The Ultimate Predator on Dec 11, 2006, 10:33:29 AM
Correctomondo.
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Post by: YautjaWarrior on Dec 12, 2006, 02:34:17 AM
The first Predator has to be the best; nothing else can bring a smile to my face like Predator kicking the crap out of Arnie... ;D
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Post by: The Ultimate Predator on Dec 12, 2006, 12:03:42 PM
Haha, though who wins, Arnie!  ;D
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Post by: Predator Schwarzenegger on Dec 12, 2006, 12:32:21 PM
Has to be Predator 1. 2 has some good bits and a new setting, but isn't up to par with the original by far. Why base it in 1997? Would have worked just as well in the 80s or perhaps based in Columbia with an urban delta force thing, I don't know  :-\, but I can't help but think if Jim Cameron had jumped at it as with Aliens it would have rocked.
Arnold had this huge powerful presence on screen (Conan, Terminator), as well as physically, and that made you think, wow if this big brawny powerhouse commando whose trained and combat proven has a tough time, this alien is one bad ass! Arnold's persona elevates Predator's menace.
The Predator in 2 is updated and looks fiercer, but seeing Glover put it in its place so easily makes it look wimpy and unconvincing. You just know if Arnie fought this Pred that he'd aced it in the first round. Many people stress it was Glover's brains that won in the end, but when I see his character on screen I somehow doubt that.
On a side note I always thought Paxton's character should have killed it and looked at it and said' "you're in some real pretty shit now huh?" lol!
Title: Re: Favourite Predator Movie?
Post by: The Ultimate Predator on Dec 12, 2006, 02:47:49 PM
Yes Arnie, is far more superior.
Title: Re: Favourite Predator Movie?
Post by: Mr. Weyland on Dec 12, 2006, 04:52:52 PM
I choose predator 1 but i feel sorry for predator 2  :( so i voted for it.
it has some great moments and it help kick off the AVP movie francies, if it wasnt for the alien skull that is.  ;D
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Post by: CELTICPRED on Dec 12, 2006, 06:33:43 PM
For one, I like both movies.  They each have great aspects on their own accord.

But for me, Predator edges out P2 mainly due to Arnold and Carl Weathers great on screen chemistry.

The ability for McTiernan to get an actor like Carl Weathers who can match Arnold in size brings a whole other dimension acting wise for Arnold.
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Post by: YautjaWarrior on Dec 13, 2006, 02:44:22 AM
Arnie did do a good job playing the "military-ultra-hero" without overdoing it...
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Post by: ButtZilla on Dec 13, 2006, 07:07:41 AM
Critics are say it's arnie's best role and best movie.  ;D
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Post by: sweeteyes on Dec 13, 2006, 10:33:54 AM
Predator....

and mr weyland??...i love your avi!! 8)
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Post by: Harry72 on Dec 13, 2006, 10:41:37 AM
Predator 1 is my favourite predmovie, because i am a great Arnold Schwarzenegger Fan.

Danny Glover is not bad, but A.S. is better.  ;D
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Post by: ShadowPred on Dec 13, 2006, 11:14:21 PM
I think i have seen the first one about 29 times, which obviously means that it's my favorite from the two
Title: Re: Favourite Predator Movie?
Post by: Predator Schwarzenegger on Dec 14, 2006, 09:26:29 AM
Man, I have to ask where you got that avatar, that looks an awful lot like a Venom transformation.... :o
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Post by: carlp06 on Dec 28, 2006, 10:50:56 AM
My choice has definately gotta be predator 1. I think predator 2 looks cheap. >:(
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Post by: Fussy Face on Dec 28, 2006, 08:02:13 PM
i like harrigan. but i like predator 1
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Post by: YautjaWarrior on Dec 29, 2006, 05:20:34 AM
They both had some good things going for them but Predator 1 definately comes out on top... :)

I wonder, in a fight, which Predator would win, the one from Predator 1 or the other from Predator 2? ???
Title: Re: Favourite Predator Movie?
Post by: ShadowPred on Jan 07, 2007, 05:29:26 AM
Quote from: Predator Schwarzenegger on Dec 14, 2006, 09:26:29 AM
Man, I have to ask where you got that avatar, that looks an awful lot like a Venom transformation.... :o

I got from internapse.com
Title: Re: Favourite Predator Movie?
Post by: tucko on Jan 14, 2007, 10:22:39 AM
Predator 1 ...the only thing I didn't understand about it....what in gos name was a predator doing in the middle of a jungle.
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Post by: deezl on Jan 14, 2007, 03:11:21 PM
the predator is in the middle of the jungle cause it was a very hot year and seeing they use body heat to hunt insto presto it kinda makes lots of sense, plus if you listen to the whole story by anna when they are chillin in the bushes about it only happening in the hottest years, then hey i think it makes lots of sense,

anyways, number 1 is way better for the fact that arnie is in it it didnt help we had to look at gary busey's giant teeth in the second one, pred 2 good but not as good.
Title: Re: Favourite Predator Movie?
Post by: Mr. Weyland on Jan 14, 2007, 04:00:05 PM
Quote from: sweeteyes on Dec 13, 2006, 10:33:54 AM
Predator....

and mr weyland??...i love your avi!! 8)

Why thank you, everyone seems to like my AVI  ;D
Title: Re: Favourite Predator Movie?
Post by: davebhamuk on Jan 16, 2007, 11:50:59 PM
The Predator was in the jungle because there were frequent conflicts with guerillas there at the time, the same as the gangland violence drew them to LA.

I love Predator but I picked Predator 2 because it shows more of the Predator character. Also Danny Glover doesnt easily kill the Pred. In the first one the soldiers are picked off one by one usually from afar by a killer they know nothing about. In Predator 2 the Predator kills tonnes of columbians and jamaican nutcases then only after Gary Busey's alienbusters use their freeze guns which would mess up any creature that relies on body heat to see does Danny get the upper hand. Infact in the first one the soldiers are ambushed and the role is reversed in 2.
Title: Re: Favourite Predator Movie?
Post by: batanga on Jan 19, 2007, 01:37:08 PM
I like Predator 2 better. The predator itself wasn't handled as well (the thunder striking scene was retarded, and the face wasn't as good).

And I prefer Danny over Arnold. Music was also much better. Some effects were real tacky but... still, better IMO.
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Post by: AtR on Jan 19, 2007, 03:23:10 PM
I liked Predator 1 better. Both movies were awesome but the hunt in the jungle seems better than in a city. And Arnie's accent is funny :)
Title: Re: Favourite Predator Movie?
Post by: jimmyboy on Jan 19, 2007, 10:13:56 PM
P1 is the best movie I think but P2 is very good too... I like the fact its based in a city. The stealth in the Predator series is excellent, just like Solid Snake (Metal Gear Solid)!
Title: Re: Favourite Predator Movie?
Post by: Shaak on Jan 19, 2007, 10:48:34 PM
I vote for Predator because I like jungle. I haven't seen P2 in recent years.
Title: Re: Favourite Predator Movie?
Post by: xenopred66 on Jan 20, 2007, 03:02:05 AM
1 because its just better and more iconic

2 had better gadgets though
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Post by: YautjaWarrior on Jan 22, 2007, 02:44:57 AM
The Predator in the first one just seemed more confident and skilled than the second one; though the second one did have some pretty cool weaponry.
Title: Re: Favourite Predator Movie?
Post by: Alien Freak on Jan 22, 2007, 03:40:36 PM
I like Pred1.Cause of Arnie and also in alot of series, like this, the original is better than the sequel.
Title: Re: Favourite Predator Movie?
Post by: Bluey1489 on Jan 23, 2007, 04:24:18 AM
my fav is pred 1
Title: Re: Favourite Predator Movie?
Post by: Dekapitator on Jan 24, 2007, 05:26:24 PM
The original is always the best. ;)
Title: Re: Favourite Predator Movie?
Post by: Mr. Weyland on Jan 24, 2007, 05:41:00 PM
Quote from: Dekapitator on Jan 24, 2007, 05:26:24 PM
The original is always the best. ;)

What about AVP 1
Title: Re: Favourite Predator Movie?
Post by: Dekapitator on Jan 24, 2007, 05:49:18 PM
Quote from: Mr. Weyland on Jan 24, 2007, 05:41:00 PM
What about AVP 1

Oh that, that's just sh*t. ;D
Title: Re: Favourite Predator Movie?
Post by: Mr. Weyland on Jan 24, 2007, 05:53:56 PM
But then if AVP 2 is better, that proves that originals arnt allways the best.
Title: Re: Favourite Predator Movie?
Post by: Dekapitator on Jan 24, 2007, 08:26:47 PM
I know, it's just an expression I like to use, along with "old school or no school".(https://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.planetsmilies.com%2Fsmilies%2Fwinking%2Fwinking0019.gif&hash=5f7bb4a03b14a203c4dd23fd42a08d77146a31b2)
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Post by: stickaround on Jan 27, 2007, 11:21:39 PM
They both kik ass ! The first one is my favourite and is a better film but 2 holds it's own and we have a better looking pred, more pred action and more weapons.

Bring on Pred 3 ! (minus john cena or any wrestler for that matter!)

Stickaround !
Title: Re: Favourite Predator Movie?
Post by: rexemmen on Feb 02, 2007, 06:45:44 PM
It's difficult to choose. I found predator 2 very interesting with the jamaicans and the dreads.
but the movie doesn't exploid that very much. The bad thing is that the suit that Kevin Peter Hall
is acting in is not as good as the first one. Manly the face. The eyes are realy fake and the mouth opening is not as good as the first one. On an outher note it's predator 2 that makes the opening to bring the alien in to the predator franchise (trophy chamber) that makes up for allot in the movie. Also the other predators are very interesting. But my choise must be the first movie. Because it's the first one and it sets the note for all.

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Post by: YautjaWarrior on Feb 06, 2007, 04:22:37 AM
I thought the Predator in Predator 2 looked pretty good; the body had more markings and designs than the first one and made it look unique.
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Post by: Champiionser on Feb 11, 2007, 06:33:33 PM
Quote from: Darkness on Nov 01, 2006, 08:09:10 AM
What's your favourite Predator movie?
the first :)
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Post by: Punk19 on Feb 11, 2007, 07:05:22 PM
I like them both but the Second one has more Predator. I said Predator 2, but Predator 1 was definately up there
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Post by: Prowler on Feb 11, 2007, 11:04:36 PM
The first was and still is a classic original that just gets up there with alien and aliens. They just created a monster that was as original, interesting and most important of all ;Da mouth as unforgetable as the aliens. The second one was great but the first just makes me smile like crazy and when the mask goes off you knew it was gonna be a classic LOL :o

Title: Re: Favourite Predator Movie?
Post by: yauntja on Feb 21, 2007, 12:42:18 PM
Predator ! :D
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Post by: It on Feb 22, 2007, 09:26:35 PM
I think Predator 2 is better because it shows the Alien skull and it tells how long they have been on Earth
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Post by: YautjaWarrior on Feb 26, 2007, 12:03:16 AM
The first movie also has a bunch of great one-liners:

"If it bleeds, we can kill it..."

"You are one, ugly motherf*****."

"What the hell are you?"  ;D
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Post by: Mr. Weyland on Feb 26, 2007, 12:31:17 AM
Quote from: YautjaWarrior on Feb 26, 2007, 12:03:16 AM
The first movie also has a bunch of great one-liners:

"If it bleeds, we can kill it..."

"You are one, ugly motherf*****."

"What the hell are you?"  ;D
So did Predator 2:

"Ok p***y-face, your move!"

"The door swings both ways my ass"

"We dont need any rush-hour Rambos"
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Post by: gyro on Feb 26, 2007, 12:51:12 AM
both kicked ass but the first had the surprize feeling at the theater
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Post by: RockyM@ivia on Mar 01, 2007, 03:15:36 PM
PrEdAtoR! :)
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Post by: Mr. Weyland on Mar 01, 2007, 05:03:17 PM
Quote from: gyro on Feb 26, 2007, 12:51:12 AM
both kicked ass but the first had the surprize feeling at the theater
I should imagin the second movie surprised alot of people when they saw the ALIEN skull  :o
Title: Re: Favourite Predator Movie?
Post by: fluxcap on Mar 08, 2007, 07:59:52 AM
I actually like both movies. If I had to pick it would be the first one. It took awhile to finally reveal the Predator and witnessing it for the first time was quite the experience.

Predator 2 has its moments, it gave us more Predator, more kills, more toys, and Gary Busey.

Quote from: YautjaWarrior on Feb 26, 2007, 12:03:16 AM
The first movie also has a bunch of great one-liners:
Arnie tosses a machete/knife at a dude, impales him on a wall, "Stick around!"
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Post by: kolano68 on Mar 09, 2007, 12:15:47 AM
love them both and love predator creature it`s the best one ever ;D
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Post by: Totalfx on Mar 09, 2007, 07:17:19 PM
Predator 1 all the way! even tho it has that beefy austrian in it. it works XD   better than predator 2
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Post by: scarface on Mar 11, 2007, 02:25:09 AM
Dont kill me, but i love predator 2, danny is my all time favorite actor, plus me personaly love the look of the predator, to me he looks best in predator 2 with out the mask, and with the mask. Plus alot more scenes with the pred.
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Post by: frosty_141 on Mar 14, 2007, 06:02:34 PM
yeh it has to be predator 1, the predator was truly a formidable foe, it killed a special amry squad, not some yardies, and colombian crack heads lol if anything i think danny glover was the predator in predator2, first he beats up the predator, cuts his arm off, than jacks his weapon lol i mean the friggin poor predator was trying to run away back to the ship!!! but danny glover beaing the predator he is chases the thing back to the ship to finish him off!!! lol good movie, but predator 1 is number one!!!!
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Post by: fluxcap on Mar 14, 2007, 06:32:29 PM
Quote from: frosty_141 on Mar 14, 2007, 06:02:34 PM
if anything i think danny glover was the predator in predator2, first he beats up the predator, cuts his arm off, than jacks his weapon lol i mean the friggin poor predator was trying to run away back to the ship!!! but danny glover beaing the predator he is chases the thing back to the ship to finish him off!!!
I laughed quite a bit when I read that, never saw the humor in that part of the movie till now.
Title: Re: Favourite Predator Movie?
Post by: Dingo on Apr 05, 2007, 11:30:18 PM
I say Predator 2. Introduced a bunch of cool gadgets and since it was in the city, there were kinda no dead spots like in Predator where they're just haning around in the jungle by themselves when the Predator wasn't pesent. In 2, they were in a highly populated city and there  was also the commando guys who had been tracking it over the past couple of weeks. That was a good idea in my opinion. Don't get me wrong the first predator was awesome and I love but 2 is just a little bit better than the first one.
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Post by: Its Game Time on Apr 22, 2007, 08:51:34 AM
It is REALLY hard for me to choose. I really loved them both. If i had to choose it would be the first one.
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Post by: Brett S.E. on Apr 22, 2007, 01:15:17 PM
easily the first 1, yeah the gadgets are better in number 2 but the predator lost to a COP! if the first predator was in the second movie, Danny's skull would be a trophy in the ship
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Post by: Predboy on Apr 22, 2007, 08:54:56 PM
I like them both so much its hard to decide. The first predator was better though. Acted like a hunter should, and I just loved the jungle setting. ;D
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Post by: Jungle Hunter on May 04, 2007, 09:43:00 PM
They were both pretty good but i think preds mask in number 2 reminded me of a duck and predator one is coolest cause he hunts them in number 2 he goes right in public if there gonna do that they kill everyone who sees them cause there not ready to reveal them selves to the humans(us)
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Post by: RayKai747 on May 04, 2007, 10:49:07 PM
Of course predator 1
In predator 2 how could a policeman kill a hunter
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Post by: Master Chief on May 08, 2007, 08:38:42 PM
My vote goes to Predator 1.  I love the jungle.  The way he jumped from tree to tree was nice! Also how he was blazin' it around those trees to get to Dillon, very scary.  Glowing eyes too! Forget about it.
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Post by: Jungle Hunter on May 09, 2007, 12:21:01 AM
that cop had alot of help cause after the pred was sprayed with that shit he was shot 3 4 times with that vicious shot gun so im surpraised he got back up and on the ledge his hand got cut off cause of that cheap ram harrigan did
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Post by: War Wager on May 09, 2007, 12:27:00 AM
Predator is still a brilliant movie, but I liked the look, weapons and armour the Predator had in Predator 2. I thought Danny Glover was perfect as the lead and the music was really good too.
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Post by: Jungle Hunter on May 09, 2007, 12:36:20 AM
yea the weapons were pretty cool the mask reminds me of a duck the net gun is just insanely scary lol but all in all i still watch the predator movies after about 100 times watching them both i still love them and i dont find them boring i can even word it now off by heart haha
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Post by: YutaniDitch on May 10, 2007, 04:20:36 PM
Predator was a great action movie with a well-choreographed attack on the guerrilla camp and a very proficiently crafted movie... It is how a monster movie should be done, with expertise, savoir, Stan Winston and John MCcTiernan, the only director I know who can direct a horror movie, a thriller and an action movie...

Great Kevin Peter Hall (sorely missed) and Arnie Boy, who traded Terminatrixes and Predators for anothe type of predator: the California constituents...  :D

Seriously though, amazing movie, a reference for the genre horror/action A movie... Solid script, solid and diverse characters and acting, great production design and fantastic sets (Dutch's free fall scenario is still breathtaking...)

Though Predator 2 was a good, solid counterpart to the original Predator movie, it lacked panache but had the most amazing 15 minute debut I have ever seen until then... Absolutely amazing... but didn't like the Predator's helm (what's with the pointy jaw...?) but it's face, Stan-Winston quality all over it... So, for me, a good sequel, but not as enticing and as brilliant as the original was...


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Post by: Jungle Hunter on May 10, 2007, 07:12:41 PM
i still watched both movies since i was 7 and predator the first one is still brilliant cause how the predator acted and the the other main characters were really good and perfect for the film and whats funny 2 of the actors are senators or some thing like that the jump it was cool but it was clearly a stunt man which i thought was funny ccause most people thought it was anrnold i saw the size of the guy and i knew it was a stunt buddy and the invisable thing predator did and how they made him visable was really impressive for the tools they had back then well i thought so.
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Post by: predandrey on May 24, 2007, 02:40:07 PM
i don´t know what to say , both films has his own good a bad  stuff , i like the idea of pred 2 that put the predator in an urban envoirement but................ ??? for realism and for be a nostalgico jejej i choose the pred 1 film Arnie rules man, even when he´s getting  old .
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Post by: ElderPredator on Jun 15, 2007, 12:26:41 AM
I liked the first one better because its the original and because the second one the predators eyes looked human.
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Post by: luispaulo53 on Jun 15, 2007, 07:55:11 PM
The first one obviously! It's freakin awesome.
Title: Re: Favourite Predator Movie?
Post by: Dr. Wren on Jun 24, 2007, 12:58:18 PM
They are both equally good, but I prefer to watch Predator over Predator most of the time.
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Post by: Dekapitator on Jun 24, 2007, 02:24:30 PM
Quote from: Xenonewborn on Jun 24, 2007, 12:58:18 PM
but I prefer to watch Predator over Predator most of the time.

Forgot to type a number there, Xenonewborn.
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Post by: Alienseseses on Jul 01, 2007, 10:49:13 PM
Quote from: Mr. Weyland on Feb 26, 2007, 12:31:17 AM
Quote from: YautjaWarrior on Feb 26, 2007, 12:03:16 AM
The first movie also has a bunch of great one-liners:

"If it bleeds, we can kill it..."

"You are one, ugly motherf*****."

"What the hell are you?"  ;D
So did Predator 2:

"Ok p***y-face, your move!"

"The door swings both ways my ass"

"We dont need any rush-hour Rambos"

Not to mention:

"$#!^ happens!"
Title: Re: Favourite Predator Movie?
Post by: darkbladepred on Jul 01, 2007, 11:00:58 PM
P1 is definately my favorite. Between arnie, and the jungle theme it rulz! And also I don't know if anyone brought this up, but:

"GO! NOW! GET TO DA CHOPPA!!!"

Seriously. It's just sooo fun to yell that. You have to say it with the arnie accent though.
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Post by: Its Game Time on Jul 02, 2007, 02:50:04 AM
P1 is truly the best pred movie, however P2 had some moments
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Post by: Johnny Handsome on Aug 05, 2007, 12:06:40 AM
I like predator 1 more, but predator 2 is even more entertaining, action packed and gory as the first one.
I also love the predator 2 score and the predator was improved this time arround, always loved the predator 2 mask and face, so badass.
It was also very cool to see multiple predators at the end for the first time and of course the new weapons.
In short: I love danny glover, the new predator, the town setting and predator 2.
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Post by: Hudson on Aug 18, 2007, 06:47:38 AM
Gotta say one, but damn, Predator 2 is still awesome.
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Post by: WisePredator on Aug 18, 2007, 09:45:09 AM
P2, simply because it has the Celtic.
Title: Re: Favourite Predator Movie?
Post by: Hudson on Aug 18, 2007, 05:43:38 PM
Quote from: WisePredator on Aug 18, 2007, 09:45:09 AM
P2, simply because it has the Celtic.

Not really, and basing your opinion on maybe 3 shots is no way to pick a movie.
Title: Re: Favourite Predator Movie?
Post by: Huol on Aug 20, 2007, 04:42:57 PM
Quote from: ELDERPREDATOR on Jun 15, 2007, 12:26:41 AM
I liked the first one better because its the original and because the second one the predators eyes looked human.

I don't get this... The predator 2 pred had animatronic eyes.
The predator 1's eyes where kevin peter halls...
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Post by: Anomaly on Aug 25, 2007, 04:42:28 AM
One was the most well crafted. 2 was tacky at parts and had bad dialogue sprinkled about, bad choreography etc, but its still very watcheable.
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Post by: Ok7 on Aug 25, 2007, 09:21:24 AM
Predator 1
Predator 2


Title: Re: Favourite Predator Movie?
Post by: Daunty on Aug 25, 2007, 11:07:47 PM
First one. The jungle setting fitted with the overal appearance and introduction of the Predator. The Predator looks cool and fits right into the jungle. In the second one his skills didn't come out so great as they did in the first.
Also Arnold was a cool opponent for the Pred. Story made you feel more related with the characters and the great lines brought in by the cast were outstanding and entertaining.
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Post by: DEATHGRIND on Aug 26, 2007, 12:26:46 AM
I personally like good quality special effects, and the later the movie, the better the special effects are and the more dramatic they tend to be, so I go with 2.  However I do prefer Arnold as the human actor.  The jungle scene fits better too, but still...  Everyone has different preferences.
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Post by: The Chibi Kiriyama on Aug 26, 2007, 06:40:08 AM
Predator will always be my favorite. It was an action film that had both masculinity up the wazoo and a primal feel that most films revolving around an alien being who's attacking humans don't have present. Predator 2 was a good film, but for other reasons- the acting wasn't too bad and the additions to the Predator lore were good. It's the original's lesser to me because it lacks the unabashful feeling of action and almost seemed to marginalize the Predator's primal feel with the urban hunting ground.
Title: Re: Favourite Predator Movie?
Post by: Wolf Predator on Aug 26, 2007, 06:52:19 AM
Predator, easily
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Post by: arnold23 on Aug 26, 2007, 06:45:13 PM
Predator for sure
Title: Re: Favourite Predator Movie?
Post by: Hellspawn28 on Aug 27, 2007, 10:47:04 PM
Predator 1 is my favourite.
Title: Re: Favourite Predator Movie?
Post by: Demonio Cazador on Aug 27, 2007, 11:10:08 PM
I like them both equally...eventhough 1 is more interesting since it's the introduction of the creature, I think 2 has some awesome visuals and situations that make it very cool!
Eventhought the acting in 2 is a little cartoony, I still enjoy it very much!!


Title: Re: Favourite Predator Movie?
Post by: Anomaly on Aug 28, 2007, 08:41:50 AM
Quote from: Demonio Cazador on Aug 27, 2007, 11:10:08 PM

Eventhough the acting in 2 is a little cartoony, I still enjoy it very much!!

The scene where everyone and their grandma take out guns on the subway was over the top imo. It shouldve been just the man involved, the 2 cops and the gang. I did notice this type of exaggeration vibe in the film. Completely unecessary.
Title: Re: Favourite Predator Movie?
Post by: Tarog on Aug 30, 2007, 08:17:36 AM
although i love 'em both i cant go past Schwarznegger. Danny Glover is cool though
Title: Re: Favourite Predator Movie?
Post by: Warrior on Aug 30, 2007, 09:32:26 PM
I would have to say the first one even though they r both good, but the first one had greater character development  8)
Title: Re: Favourite Predator Movie?
Post by: Huol on Sep 01, 2007, 02:02:26 AM
eee hard choice.
I'm going with the original though.
However i do prefer predator 2 at the moment, probably because i don't own it and havn't seen it in years.
Title: Re: Favourite Predator Movie?
Post by: johnny dangerously on Sep 04, 2007, 10:06:37 AM
Predator 2 ,  I just found it more fun to watch.  The net gun, the disk and the spear are my favorite predator weapons.  But I wish predator 2 used the heat ray thing from predator 1. That alien skull at the end of predator 2  really got me thinking when I first saw it.   J.D.
Title: Re: Favourite Predator Movie?
Post by: Harkus on Sep 04, 2007, 10:33:51 AM
definately the first. The second was okay, i suppose but it wasn't as fun to watch.
Title: Re: Favourite Predator Movie?
Post by: city hunter on Sep 06, 2007, 10:07:55 PM
I think the 1st Predator was really great. The 2nd was good but not as good as the 1st one.
Title: Re: Favourite Predator Movie?
Post by: The Invisible Hunter on Sep 08, 2007, 04:00:56 PM
For some wierd reason I hate predator 2.
Title: Re: Favourite Predator Movie?
Post by: The Cleaner on Sep 10, 2007, 10:17:50 AM
I prefer Predator 2. I like that it has more screentime for the Pred more than anything that and it being based in a city, where just about anything can happen including more potential victims, makes it very interesting.

I still love Predator 1, it kind of reminds me of the original ALIEN with ALIENS-type action mixed in. The Predator design from P1 is my favorite next to the Scar design in AVP1.
Title: Re: Favourite Predator Movie?
Post by: Predator_88 on Sep 10, 2007, 08:07:42 PM
Predator 1 all the way.
Title: Re: Favourite Predator Movie?
Post by: TheUrbanPredator on Sep 15, 2007, 09:14:18 PM
Pred 1 is the one for me, but it shows the Pred more in P2 and he looks better, plus he has more weapons and stuff.  :)
Title: Re: Favourite Predator Movie?
Post by: Its Game Time on Sep 16, 2007, 07:05:08 PM
Quote from: The Invisible Hunter on Sep 08, 2007, 04:00:56 PM
For some wierd reason I hate predator 2.


Why do you hate Predator 2? I love that movie. I'm honestly not sure which is better. The second was better than the first for several reasons and the first was better than the second for several reasons. So, its kind of a tie for me.
Title: Re: Favourite Predator Movie?
Post by: Predator Cold War on Sep 16, 2007, 07:10:04 PM
Predator 1 is the best without a doubt. the predator is much more skilled compared to the NOOB in predator 2 and the jungle setting lends itself much better for the Hunt theme.
Title: Re: Favourite Predator Movie?
Post by: Private Hudson on Sep 16, 2007, 09:42:04 PM
Predator 1 all the way. ;D
Title: Re: Favourite Predator Movie?
Post by: legacy on Sep 27, 2007, 11:02:01 PM
Quote from: ScarPred on Sep 10, 2007, 10:17:50 AM
I prefer Predator 2. I like that it has more screentime for the Pred more than anything that and it being based in a city, where just about anything can happen including more potential victims, makes it very interesting.

I still love Predator 1, it kind of reminds me of the original ALIEN with ALIENS-type action mixed in. The Predator design from P1 is my favorite next to the Scar design in AVP1.
You took the words out of my mouth...wel keyborad ;D
Title: Re: Favourite Predator Movie?
Post by: Spidey3121 on Oct 01, 2007, 03:02:27 AM
Predator - 4 out of 4 stars
AvP - 2 out of 4 stars
Predator 2 - 1.5 out of 4 stars (and this is after i warmed up to it upon a second and third viewing)
Title: Re: Favourite Predator Movie?
Post by: CanadianHero67 on Oct 04, 2007, 12:43:18 AM
 I will like the first predator till judgement day. I will wacth the second one though if I want to see the predator use all his different weapons.
Title: Re: Favourite Predator Movie?
Post by: brad873 on Oct 12, 2007, 06:56:29 PM
i didnt realy like pred 1, but i loved 2. lets keep the "your a dick for thinking that, you have now tast" thing to a minimum please, but 1 was to dull and boring for me, and im not big on the arm anyway, but i loved the gangs getting killed in 2.
Title: Re: Favourite Predator Movie?
Post by: LAWNMOWERMAN on Oct 13, 2007, 07:03:27 AM
PREDATOR

not to take anything away from PREDATOR 2(it's a great film in itself)

but PREDATOR
had the best overall action, battles, deaths, pure classic moments and most of all the best cast

now PREDATOR 2 has PREDATOR beat for the most action category(but only by an hair)

PREDATOR is in the same boat as ALIEN - both set the benchmark and tone for their franchises
Title: Re: Favourite Predator Movie?
Post by: joballs45 on Oct 13, 2007, 04:54:35 PM
QuotePREDATOR is in the same boat as ALIEN - both set the benchmark and tone for their franchises

thats because they are both the first of there kind...

but ya predator 1 was better but as far as the predator itself predator 2 was better more skilled
Title: Re: Favourite Predator Movie?
Post by: Der_Meister on Oct 13, 2007, 06:36:20 PM
Predator 1
Title: Re: Favourite Predator Movie?
Post by: Spidey3121 on Oct 13, 2007, 06:39:01 PM
How do you figure that the Predator in P2 was more skilled than the Predator in the 1st film?
Title: Re: Favourite Predator Movie?
Post by: joballs45 on Oct 13, 2007, 07:54:28 PM
you know how many guys he took out and keyes team knew he was in the slaughter house and had a trap and he still got them
Title: Re: Favourite Predator Movie?
Post by: Spidey3121 on Oct 13, 2007, 09:11:10 PM
The Predator in P1 was a very efficient killer and was able to take out an elite team of Soldiers, Arnold being the only one to survive. The Predator in P1 also used a lot fewer weapons that the Pred in P2 + relied more on stealth.
Title: Re: Favourite Predator Movie?
Post by: pred man on Oct 20, 2007, 08:52:57 PM
predator 1 is best
GET TO DA CHOPPA!!!!!!!!! rofl ya pred 1 by far. pred 2 was good but not as good
Title: Re: Favourite Predator Movie?
Post by: Thorby on Oct 22, 2007, 03:23:39 PM
Predator 1 was excellent!!
I loved Predator 2 too but the first deffinately takes the lead!!

Waheey for Arnie!
Title: Re: Favourite Predator Movie?
Post by: Clydewyman on Oct 30, 2007, 12:57:16 PM
I would choose Predator 1, but if Alien vs. Predator: Requiem were to be release and gets into the polling options, it would be hard to choose for me.
Title: Re: Favourite Predator Movie?
Post by: XpArAdOx on Nov 05, 2007, 03:20:36 PM
love the 1st predator movie by far and 2 was good also
Title: Re: Favourite Predator Movie?
Post by: Thorby on Nov 05, 2007, 04:48:35 PM
I did think predator 2 had some really cool parts in it which i really loved like as Harrigan was fighting the Predator and I did think he made a very good hero.....it just was a great sequel to a great first movie!
Title: Re: Favourite Predator Movie?
Post by: Wolfs Girl on Nov 08, 2007, 05:48:44 AM
The first would have to be the best because that's the film that introduced us to them.
the second is OK, but not as suspenseful/mysterious as the first one.
I'm hoping I will like AVPR once I've seen it.
Title: Re: Favourite Predator Movie?
Post by: predatorfan101 on Nov 13, 2007, 01:06:22 AM
Number one its a classic to me.Also its a great Arnold movie!  :)
Title: Re: Favourite Predator Movie?
Post by: Sprout on Nov 25, 2007, 06:06:30 PM
The first one where the absolutely gorgeous jungle and the paranoia of the commandos both play leading roles next to Arnold and the Predator. And a decent simple score too.

The second one I seldom watch. Some interesting ideas, especially in the freezer towards the end, but it spent a litte too much time beeing a cop story IMO.
Title: Re: Favourite Predator Movie?
Post by: diresword on Nov 26, 2007, 12:55:37 AM
The 1st one was better hands down.its great how he stalks them throughout the movie and pics them off 1 by 1.And the fight between the pred and duke at the end was awsome.
Title: Re: Favourite Predator Movie?
Post by: Biomechanoid on Nov 27, 2007, 04:32:45 AM
NO WAY is Predator 2 as good as the original.
Title: Re: Favourite Predator Movie?
Post by: BlkSoul on Dec 06, 2007, 11:52:15 AM
I agree Predator 1 was by far the best!!
Title: Re: Favourite Predator Movie?
Post by: D-101 on Dec 09, 2007, 11:24:05 PM
Predator.
Title: Re: Favourite Predator Movie?
Post by: Yautja161 on Dec 10, 2007, 10:31:57 PM
Predator 1 is my fav.

I found a funny clip on a site, check!

http://vidsearch.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=vids.individual&videoid=7655205
Title: Re: Favourite Predator Movie?
Post by: city hunter on Dec 13, 2007, 01:27:06 AM
         Predator : Great, Action packed, Bloody                                           Overall: 94%
       Predator 2: Okay, Gruesome, Cooler predator weapons, But bad acting  Overall: 68%
Title: Re: Favourite Predator Movie?
Post by: lambertjr on Dec 15, 2007, 04:53:51 PM
"Predator" was my favorite bit I also enjoyed "Predator2".
The downfall I thought in 2 was the simple fact of bad casting.   
Title: Re: Favourite Predator Movie?
Post by: def on Dec 15, 2007, 06:27:22 PM
i like predator 2 a bit better than i like the first. not because it's a better movie but because i thought the pred effects were a lot better quality and that's what's really important. but also, predator 2 gives us our only actual character development on our title character i mean neither movies were really a dramatic masterpiece or anything. so that's why i give it my vote
Title: Re: Favourite Predator Movie?
Post by: The Demon on Dec 16, 2007, 02:42:43 AM
Quote from: Corporal Hicks on Nov 05, 2006, 08:48:13 PM
You know. I love 'em both. I find them both really entertaining. It's so hard to choose.

Exactly. Way too hard to choose. They are both great.
Title: Re: Favourite Predator Movie?
Post by: Ellen Ripley on Dec 16, 2007, 09:18:39 PM
PREDATOR had better acting and more suspense as well as action
Title: Re: Favourite Predator Movie?
Post by: Gameoverman!GAMEOVER! on Dec 16, 2007, 09:51:20 PM
Predator had better acting/action/suspense. Predator 2 just had cool predator effects. Plus, Predator is the ULTIMATE macho movie. Seriously, find another movie that celebrates being a guy so much...bunch of beefy guys fight a beefy alien...only the beefiest bloke survive,n also saves the damsel in distress (well not so much distress,but u get the general idea). It's well good.
Title: Re: Favourite Predator Movie?
Post by: Huol on Dec 17, 2007, 01:10:35 AM
Quote from: Gameoverman!GAMEOVER! on Dec 16, 2007, 09:51:20 PM
Predator had better acting/action/suspense. Predator 2 just had cool predator effects. Plus, Predator is the ULTIMATE macho movie. Seriously, find another movie that celebrates being a guy so much...bunch of beefy guys fight a beefy alien...only the beefiest bloke survive,n also saves the damsel in distress (well not so much distress,but u get the general idea). It's well good.

I CHALLENGE THEE.

300.

The manliest movie EVER MADE.
Title: Re: Favourite Predator Movie?
Post by: The Cleaner on Dec 17, 2007, 02:19:13 AM
Quote from: The Wolf on Dec 16, 2007, 02:42:43 AM
Quote from: Corporal Hicks on Nov 05, 2006, 08:48:13 PM
You know. I love 'em both. I find them both really entertaining. It's so hard to choose.

Exactly. Way too hard to choose. They are both great.
Agreed. Though if I had to choose, it'd be Pred 2.
Title: Re: Favourite Predator Movie?
Post by: The Demon on Dec 17, 2007, 11:22:49 AM
I couldn't point out the bad acting in Predator2. What are you guys talking about?
Title: Re: Favourite Predator Movie?
Post by: Gameoverman!GAMEOVER! on Dec 17, 2007, 06:05:39 PM
Quote from: Huol on Dec 17, 2007, 01:10:35 AM
Quote from: Gameoverman!GAMEOVER! on Dec 16, 2007, 09:51:20 PM
Predator had better acting/action/suspense. Predator 2 just had cool predator effects. Plus, Predator is the ULTIMATE macho movie. Seriously, find another movie that celebrates being a guy so much...bunch of beefy guys fight a beefy alien...only the beefiest bloke survive,n also saves the damsel in distress (well not so much distress,but u get the general idea). It's well good.

I CHALLENGE THEE.

300.

The manliest movie EVER MADE.

Ah yes good point, I love tht film too!!!
Title: Re: Favourite Predator Movie?
Post by: Lone Wolf on Dec 18, 2007, 06:55:13 PM
Both are great, but the first is much better. It's very well done, great script, great suspense built towards the end etc etc. The second is a bit too sloppy at some places, and I hate it when
- Spoilers regarding the second movie -
urban predator loses his hand ...

- Wolf
Title: Re: Favourite Predator Movie?
Post by: Commander Aun on Dec 18, 2007, 10:21:53 PM
Quote from: Gameoverman!GAMEOVER! on Dec 17, 2007, 06:05:39 PM
Quote from: Huol on Dec 17, 2007, 01:10:35 AM
Quote from: Gameoverman!GAMEOVER! on Dec 16, 2007, 09:51:20 PM
Predator had better acting/action/suspense. Predator 2 just had cool predator effects. Plus, Predator is the ULTIMATE macho movie. Seriously, find another movie that celebrates being a guy so much...bunch of beefy guys fight a beefy alien...only the beefiest bloke survive,n also saves the damsel in distress (well not so much distress,but u get the general idea). It's well good.

I CHALLENGE THEE.

300.

The manliest movie EVER MADE.

Ah yes good point, I love tht film too!!!

Me too! That is so awesome!
Title: Re: Favourite Predator Movie?
Post by: sweeteyes on Dec 18, 2007, 10:22:21 PM
Predator 1... 8)
Title: Re: Favourite Predator Movie?
Post by: Zekeasakur on Dec 19, 2007, 04:52:18 AM
Predator One is better then second episode. Predator have good actors, but Predator 2 no
Title: Re: Favourite Predator Movie?
Post by: Clydewyman on Dec 19, 2007, 02:06:07 PM
I liked Predator and Predator 2. But the formal is hands-down the best, including Arnold Schwarzenegger duking out with the gruesome and cruel Humanoid alien the we humans call it as the "Predator" or the First Predator in my terms.
Title: Re: Favourite Predator Movie?
Post by: Neukku on Dec 19, 2007, 05:22:41 PM
Frist one was better.Bill Paxton was so irritating in the sequel.
Title: Re: Favourite Predator Movie?
Post by: cleaner on Dec 21, 2007, 05:52:53 AM
First movie is the best one, the second is good but i don't like the city location. I want a new Predator movie back to the jungle..oh jeah forgot, please John McTiernan come back and make it.^^
Title: Re: Favourite Predator Movie?
Post by: Veteran Warrior on Dec 27, 2007, 07:32:44 AM
Predator 2 is my all time favorite. Its more about the predator and his mission, shows that the predators have been around for a while and have a history of hunting on earth and different species in the galaxy. It shows that their is not just one, but many of these humanoid aliens and that that travel in clans and follow a tribal code of honour, we see that they aren't just vicious killers like the Aliens, but that they are noble, honourable warriors with a code of life that they follow. Its freakin awesome, this movie rocks.
Title: Re: Favourite Predator Movie?
Post by: Half-knife on Dec 28, 2007, 08:50:00 AM
The original was so far above the second. Predator 2 was a suck-fest most of the time.
Title: Re: Favourite Predator Movie?
Post by: Chocolate man! on Dec 28, 2007, 09:41:20 AM
Predator 2 by far.
Title: Re: Favourite Predator Movie?
Post by: bushboy on Dec 31, 2007, 01:25:51 AM
Predator 1 had a cooler cast. And better setting. And I liked the whole military thing. 2 felt like it was trying too hard or something
Title: Re: Favourite Predator Movie?
Post by: Rafael S. on Jan 02, 2008, 04:05:18 AM
Both are good movies. I will say P2 was more action packed than P1.
8)
Title: Re: Favourite Predator Movie?
Post by: mojodojo2k on Jan 04, 2008, 10:30:15 AM
Predator 1 by farrrrrrrrrrr!!!  All Predator 2 was just a sh**ty typical 80's action movie filled with over the top language, unnecessary nudity and for god's sake Bill Paxton!  It was basically Die Hard with a Predator thrown in it.   Need i say more.
Title: Re: Favourite Predator Movie?
Post by: chopperbuilder on Jan 06, 2008, 12:10:18 AM
Pred 2. danny glover is a awsome actor
pred 1. i never was a big fan of arnold he to " im a herro" taadaaa, but if we removed him i think that pred 1 would be on top of the list.
Title: Re: Favourite Predator Movie?
Post by: Bza on Jan 14, 2008, 12:27:17 PM
P1 is a better film.  But I prefer p2 due to getting to see more of the Predator.  Its a fanboy film really.  Oh and Bill Paxton is awesome in P2. 
Title: Re: Favourite Predator Movie?
Post by: YerMawsGotBaws on Jan 15, 2008, 08:08:49 PM
The first one, it's my all time favourite movie  ;D
Title: Re: Favourite Predator Movie?
Post by: BlkSoul on Jan 16, 2008, 10:11:18 AM
Quote from: YerMawsGotBaws on Jan 15, 2008, 08:08:49 PM
The first one, it's my all time favourite movie  ;D
same here
p2 was good too
Title: Re: Favourite Predator Movie?
Post by: wolf66 on Jan 16, 2008, 02:51:39 PM
i have to say Predator 1
Title: Re: Favourite Predator Movie?
Post by: Aliens-diner86 on Jan 16, 2008, 10:49:52 PM
Predator is the greater film IMO 8)
Title: Re: Favourite Predator Movie?
Post by: BlkSoul on Jan 17, 2008, 08:08:23 AM
What makes Predator1 a better film to you?
Title: Re: Favourite Predator Movie?
Post by: Aliens-diner86 on Jan 17, 2008, 05:31:38 PM
The first was a great original like the first alien.

For me pred2 is just a bad film :( The pred and the weapons were cool and all but thats all it had going for it. The rest is just another typical unintersting film wich seems to only want to top the bodycount of the first. With a monster that cool they could have made something realy special.

Im tierd of sequels like gremlins2, critters2, jaws2 and predator2. More action, blood and sfx and less art, mystery, tension and most of all originality. Good sequels? Godfather2, aliens, temple of doom, empire strikes back, t2 and so on.

I dont HATE the film but you asked ;)
Title: Re: Favourite Predator Movie?
Post by: gilimiligili on Jan 19, 2008, 12:54:38 PM
Of course the first one , the 1987 original was the best Predator 2 doesn't even come close to the feet of the first one !
Title: Re: Favourite Predator Movie?
Post by: MST3Kfan on Jan 19, 2008, 06:51:33 PM
Predator(1987)

When you think about it this movie could have ended up, just like every Alien ripoff from the '80s, bad and forgetable. Yet, every time it's stands out with great action, memorable characters and wonderful creature design. If there's one movie to be called worthy of the action genre, this is it.

On the other hand Predator 2 (1990) tries too hard to copy the original in term of replicating the mystery of the Predator, which doesn't work for those who've seen the original. The only thing that's worth of noting in the sequel is the new weapons the predator gets and the action scenes it's involved in.
Title: Re: Favourite Predator Movie?
Post by: Iron Hide on Jan 20, 2008, 12:39:34 AM
The First Predator,The way the sqaud talked about the predator always gave me chills,It made the predator more menacing  ;D!!!
Title: Re: Favourite Predator Movie?
Post by: DoomRulz on Jan 23, 2008, 05:37:11 PM
Predator 1 was my fav. Partially b/c Arnie was running away like a scared rabbit (big change for him) but mainly coz the Predator was scary. I loved the setting; you're in the jungle, being hunted by a creature that is physically and technologically more advanced than you are.

Predator 2 was good. It isn't as good as the first, but I give it major props for trying something new.
Title: Re: Favourite Predator Movie?
Post by: Fenrir on Jan 29, 2008, 09:07:56 PM
the first one is sooooooo cool, it would be my all time favorite. if it wasnt for T2 :P

that predator look is my favorite. pred 2 was also cool. but i like the 1st one better

been watchin predator 1 & 2 since i was 7 (along w Robocop n T2) never get tired of these movies
Title: Re: Favourite Predator Movie?
Post by: Nightwalker on Mar 04, 2008, 07:09:37 PM
how can u even ask haha
predator is the best testosterone fuelled muscle man kick ass flick from the 80's
van damme,stallone,lungdren n seagal were trashed when it came out haha
those were the days ;)
Title: Re: Favourite Predator Movie?
Post by: Nightwalker on Mar 04, 2008, 07:12:38 PM
the predator mask has yet to be beaten in my opinion...stan winston is the god of monster making.....it looked so real.

(https://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi162.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Ft259%2Fphubbs%2Fpredator-1.jpg&hash=f9723c6ae576597c5f9e3d8da9b593145cdaedb4)
Title: Re: Favourite Predator Movie?
Post by: Secret Hero on Mar 07, 2008, 06:09:36 PM
My favourite movie is Predator than Predator 2. Cause I like the fight scene between Arnold and the Predator. Face-To-Face. 8)
Title: Re: Favourite Predator Movie?
Post by: Salt The Fries on Mar 09, 2008, 01:04:02 AM
Simply Predator. It had more well-developed characters, and basically was superior to the sequel in almost every area. Predator 2 was a decent follow up, though.
Title: Re: Favourite Predator Movie?
Post by: goneja on Mar 28, 2008, 08:18:20 PM
Predator 2. Cooler predator outfit and weapons. Multiple predators. Alien skull. Drugs. Jamaican voodoo posses. DANNY GLOVER. GARY BUSEY!. Far more violence. Gritty and cool. Much more fun to watch.
Title: Re: Favourite Predator Movie?
Post by: Hellspawn28 on Apr 04, 2008, 07:57:02 PM
Predator: The movie is awesome and it almost perfect. The movie has tons of action and stuff blowing up everywhere. The seting was perfect and the characters where memorable as well. One the best action movies next to Die Hard and Escape From New York IMO. The only flaw is that the movie is bit slow at first.

Predator 2: It may not be good as the first movie but it a great movie. The movie was total blood bath and the seting in the city was great. The characters where nice and the movie has more action then before. The movie is very entertaining movie that should probably have had an 8 from me but a few annoying flaws does that the film must settle with a high 7 IMO.
Title: Re: Favourite Predator Movie?
Post by: Ghost Rider on Apr 05, 2008, 12:12:43 AM
Predator is the best predator movie period. ;D
Title: Re: Favourite Predator Movie?
Post by: Hellspawn28 on Apr 05, 2008, 05:05:29 PM
I love them all but The first movie will always be my favorite.
Title: Re: Favourite Predator Movie?
Post by: Le Celticant on Apr 18, 2008, 09:36:39 AM
Both of Predator movie are great.
I prefer personnally the second movie which is a little more open than the first one which was close.
Title: Re: Favourite Predator Movie?
Post by: AVPVT Extinction on Apr 18, 2008, 08:55:40 PM
I prefer Predator than Predator 2.
Title: Re: Favourite Predator Movie?
Post by: Xenomorph on May 01, 2008, 01:20:32 AM
Tey are both really cool, I never saw the end of predator 1, so I don't kow which one to choose.
Title: Re: Favourite Predator Movie?
Post by: Eidotemit on May 01, 2008, 03:35:32 AM
Wow, well I would absolutely suggest you see the end of P1 ASAP. You're missing out friend.
Title: Re: Favourite Predator Movie?
Post by: PredatorIII on May 15, 2008, 06:01:57 PM
predator 1 of course but the Predator 2 still gets a 10/10 for me
Title: Re: Favourite Predator Movie?
Post by: knoxjr on May 21, 2008, 02:36:56 PM
Pred 1 you just can't beat Arnie with a big gun
Title: Re: Favourite Predator Movie?
Post by: DoomRulz on May 21, 2008, 03:17:57 PM
Sure you can; with Jesse Ventura with a big gun ;D :)
Title: Re: Favourite Predator Movie?
Post by: vortep on May 21, 2008, 06:20:55 PM
What the hell is so great about Predator 1????? The Movie is great but it's too slow! PREDATOR 2 is THE BEST!!!
Title: Re: Favourite Predator Movie?
Post by: LukaKovach on May 24, 2008, 03:17:58 AM
Quote from: vortep on May 21, 2008, 06:20:55 PM
What the hell is so great about Predator 1????? The Movie is great but it's too slow! PREDATOR 2 is THE BEST!!!

You don't understand P1!!! P1 is so amazing I could just DIE!!
Title: Re: Favourite Predator Movie?
Post by: DoomRulz on May 24, 2008, 03:42:17 AM
Predator was a great movie b/c it featured some of the best special FXs in history and the monster design was superbly done. It also had an underlying theme of being hunted which is something that scares everyone. Especially when the creature hunting you is just plain more advanced than you, physically and technologically.
Title: Re: Favourite Predator Movie?
Post by: vortep on May 24, 2008, 10:42:28 AM
Quote from: LukaKovach on May 24, 2008, 03:17:58 AM
Quote from: vortep on May 21, 2008, 06:20:55 PM
What the hell is so great about Predator 1????? The Movie is great but it's too slow! PREDATOR 2 is THE BEST!!!

You don't understand P1!!! P1 is so amazing I could just DIE!!

Oh i understand it but Predator 2 give us more info on the Predator's rase and it give us more action, and i like the lead character best (Dany) and i like the predator mask better, wow i like everything! O yeah and i love Pred 1 and i give it an hard 8 but for me Pred 2 is 10
Title: Re: Favourite Predator Movie?
Post by: Veteran Warrior on Jun 12, 2008, 04:53:35 PM
I am a hardcore fan for P2, I just love how gritty it is and the ritualistic feel and it gives so much background info on the predators
Title: Re: Favourite Predator Movie?
Post by: Master Chief on Jun 12, 2008, 05:00:44 PM
Quote from: Veteran Warrior on Jun 12, 2008, 04:53:35 PM
I am a hardcore fan for P2,[...]and it gives so much background info on the predators

Such as?
Title: Re: Favourite Predator Movie?
Post by: Veteran Warrior on Jun 12, 2008, 05:08:33 PM
It's more defining on telling us that they are hunters, they are more of a tribal race of creatures who follow strict codes of honor, they have traveled around the galaxy hunting fierce and worthy creatures.
Title: Re: Favourite Predator Movie?
Post by: The Demon on Jun 15, 2008, 03:22:43 PM
Quote from: Veteran Warrior on Jun 12, 2008, 05:08:33 PM
It's more defining on telling us that they are hunters, they are more of a tribal race of creatures who follow strict codes of honor, they have traveled around the galaxy hunting fierce and worthy creatures.

I think I know what you mean but its not that indept. You're talking about when Keyes explains everything to Harrigan in that computer room, right?

Anyways, I voted Predator2. I like them both equally, but Predator2 needs deserves more votes.
Title: Re: Favourite Predator Movie?
Post by: Veteran Warrior on Jun 16, 2008, 02:30:22 AM
Quote from: The Wolf on Jun 15, 2008, 03:22:43 PM
Quote from: Veteran Warrior on Jun 12, 2008, 05:08:33 PM
It's more defining on telling us that they are hunters, they are more of a tribal race of creatures who follow strict codes of honor, they have traveled around the galaxy hunting fierce and worthy creatures.

I think I know what you mean but its not that indept. You're talking about when Keyes explains everything to Harrigan in that computer room, right?

Anyways, I voted Predator2. I like them both equally, but Predator2 needs deserves more votes.

You get the bases of what I'm saying. I love both movies to, but I lean a little more towards P2
Title: Re: Favourite Predator Movie?
Post by: The Demon on Jun 16, 2008, 02:33:30 AM
Same here. There's more Predator action to enjoy in Predator2.
Title: Re: Favourite Predator Movie?
Post by: Veteran Warrior on Jun 16, 2008, 02:34:43 AM
Quote from: The Wolf on Jun 16, 2008, 02:33:30 AM
Same here. There's more Predator action to enjoy in Predator2.

Definetly :)
Title: Re: Favourite Predator Movie?
Post by: Undeadite on Jun 16, 2008, 02:43:35 AM
Yeah, more weapons, more blood, more violence... just an all around good time  :D
Title: Re: Favourite Predator Movie?
Post by: DoomRulz on Jun 16, 2008, 02:51:25 AM
Plus it has some great lines too.

Ok, Pussyface! It's your move!
That's all I need, is birds.

xD
Title: Re: Favourite Predator Movie?
Post by: Veteran Warrior on Jun 16, 2008, 02:54:57 AM
Quote from: Undeadite on Jun 16, 2008, 02:43:35 AM
Yeah, more weapons, more blood, more violence... just an all around good time  :D
Quote from: DoomRulz on Jun 16, 2008, 02:51:25 AM
Plus it has some great lines too.

Ok, Pussyface! It's your move!
That's all I need, is birds.

xD

LOL! :)
Title: Re: Favourite Predator Movie?
Post by: Undeadite on Jun 16, 2008, 04:46:54 AM
Hitchcock was onto something with those damn birds  ;)
Title: Re: Favourite Predator Movie?
Post by: Veteran Warrior on Jun 16, 2008, 05:42:10 AM
Quote from: Undeadite on Jun 16, 2008, 04:46:54 AM
Hitchcock was onto something with those damn birds  ;)

LOL :D
Title: Re: Favourite Predator Movie?
Post by: Shasvre on Jul 16, 2008, 10:12:31 PM
Predator - 8/10

Predator 2 - 10/10

Predator 2 had way better characters than the first film and more memorable lines. I don't mind Arnold, but I think Danny Glover is a better actor. Same goes for Maria Conchita Alonso and Bill Paxton.

And I loved the Jamaicans  ;D
Title: Re: Favourite Predator Movie?
Post by: scarface on Jul 23, 2008, 10:25:19 PM
Predator 2, the first movie I saw.

Quote from: Ericsson on Jul 16, 2008, 10:12:31 PM
Predator - 8/10

Predator 2 - 10/10

Predator 2 had way better characters than the first film and more memorable lines. I don't mind Arnold, but I think Danny Glover is a better actor. Same goes for Maria Conchita Alonso and Bill Paxton.

And I loved the Jamaicans  ;D
Thanks, IMO one of the best movies ever.
Title: Re: Favourite Predator Movie?
Post by: Parler on Aug 04, 2008, 05:00:05 PM
I think it would have to be Predator 2.
Title: Re: Favourite Predator Movie?
Post by: Bone Crusher on Aug 04, 2008, 05:21:54 PM
Pred 1 for me.
Title: Re: Favourite Predator Movie?
Post by: Spidey3121 on Aug 04, 2008, 06:28:43 PM
The original Predator by a long shot - It is a great actions film + has forever been 1 of my favorites. Predator 2 was a huge letdown + overall very "silly". It had it's moments for sure but it pales in comparison to it's original.

As for the AvP films... i like the 1st 1 better but AvP: R definitely represented the Predator better. In fact, the only good parts of AvP: R involved the Predator.
Title: Re: Favourite Predator Movie?
Post by: Private Hudson on Aug 05, 2008, 12:24:50 AM
Predator 10/10
Predator 2 10/10
Title: Re: Favourite Predator Movie?
Post by: scarface on Aug 13, 2008, 03:52:19 AM
Predator - One of the best movies of all time, HANDS DOWN!!!!
Predator 2 - Better than the original (sorry guys)

Predator - 10/10

Predator 2 - 10/10

Can't decide.

Favorite scenes

Predator - The battle scene between "Anytime" and Dutch.

Predator 2 - From the ship scene, to wear elder gives Harrigan the gun.
Title: Re: Favourite Predator Movie?
Post by: wolfboy22 on Aug 28, 2008, 10:04:43 PM
Predator 2 for me.
Title: Re: Favourite Predator Movie?
Post by: Spidey3121 on Dec 28, 2008, 09:35:14 PM
While Predator is still my favorite of the 2 (+ certainly always will be) upon a recent viewing of Predator 2 i found it to be much more enjoyable. I think what hurts this movie most for me is the bulk of the 1st half. There is some solid action but a lot of the story (futuristic L.A.) + characters don't match up to the Jungle of Predator 1 or Arnold + his team. It is the "Slaughter House" sequence for me that really elevates this film. It is a fantastic sequence is certainly fantastic + really from that point on the movie doesn't let up.

I think looking at Predator 2 for what it is + not directly comparing different elements to Predator 2 goes a long way towards better enjoying the film. That is a difficult task when it comes to sequels though... hence the criticisms that "Alien 3" + "Alien: Resurrection" tend to take.
Title: Re: Favourite Predator Movie?
Post by: Cyraxcog117 on Dec 28, 2008, 09:57:35 PM
  Predator 1 because of the setting it was more scary because you didn't know what the creature was.
Title: Re: Favourite Predator Movie?
Post by: DoomRulz on Dec 28, 2008, 11:03:23 PM
Agreed. It had an Alienesque vibe to it. Until the last...10 minutes or so.
Title: Re: Favourite Predator Movie?
Post by: LukeSpidey on Jan 13, 2009, 08:56:58 PM
"Predator" is my favourite movie. I also love the second film, and I thinks is a great sequel, but the jungle, Arnold and all that stuff was just amazing.

I remember when I was a little kid I was very afraid of this movie even though Schwarzenegger was my favourite actor that time. I watched in for the first time maybe 10 years ago and from that time it's, in my opinion, the best sci-fi movie ever.

Then I've watched "Predator II" and despite the fact that the movie was completely different I loved it from the first sight, but still think that the first is the best.
Title: Re: Favourite Predator Movie?
Post by: The_Undertaker on Jan 14, 2009, 02:24:44 PM
My favourite Predator movie has to be first one. Though the second one really gave a lot of new information about the Predator but it didn't gave enough action like the first Predator movie.
Title: Re: Favourite Predator Movie?
Post by: DoomRulz on Jan 14, 2009, 04:34:06 PM
The 2nd film had more action than Predator. Way more.
Title: Re: Favourite Predator Movie?
Post by: The_Undertaker on Jan 14, 2009, 04:52:09 PM
Quote from: DoomRulz on Jan 14, 2009, 04:34:06 PM
The 2nd film had more action than Predator. Way more.
Well only a little but still I prefer the first movie instead.
Title: Re: Favourite Predator Movie?
Post by: LukeSpidey on Jan 15, 2009, 10:00:16 AM
Yeah. In the second movie there was non-stop action starting from the subway to the predator's spaceship.
Title: Re: Favourite Predator Movie?
Post by: wolfboy22 on Jan 15, 2009, 05:53:28 PM
Quote from: DoomRulz on Jan 14, 2009, 04:34:06 PM
The 2nd film had more action than Predator. Way more.

That's why I like P2 more but most people prefer Predator because of the suspense factor.
Title: Re: Favourite Predator Movie?
Post by: LukeSpidey on Jan 15, 2009, 10:19:10 PM
Most people prefer Predator 1, because this was something new. We haven't seen anything like this before in the big screen. Some alien with great weaponary and technology hunted one by one the best marines group and they were powerless although the had some heavy arsenal with them. Predator 2, like many already said was the city-jungle and besides we have known who was the hunter.
Title: Re: Favourite Predator Movie?
Post by: Master Chief on Jan 15, 2009, 10:50:57 PM
Quote from: DoomRulz on Jan 14, 2009, 04:34:06 PM
The 2nd film had more action than Predator. Way more.
There were more rounds fired in P1.
Title: Re: Favourite Predator Movie?
Post by: The Demon on Jan 15, 2009, 11:52:08 PM
You counted?

Seeing how it was in a shitty city where there's shootings everyday.  (Predator2)
Title: Re: Favourite Predator Movie?
Post by: Master Chief on Jan 16, 2009, 12:11:24 AM
Yeah, you didn't? Hmph, and you want people to call you Wolf.
Title: Re: Favourite Predator Movie?
Post by: predalien-hybrid on Jan 16, 2009, 12:43:10 AM
I was so scared when the predator in Predator 1 took of his mask all slowly...what suspense! :o
Title: Re: Favourite Predator Movie?
Post by: LukeSpidey on Jan 16, 2009, 12:16:13 PM
That was one big memorable moment in the sci-fi cinema history. And the mask dropped in the water with this heavy sound. Cool. :D
Title: Re: Favourite Predator Movie?
Post by: DoomRulz on Jan 16, 2009, 08:25:53 PM
Quote from: Master Chief on Jan 15, 2009, 10:50:57 PM
Quote from: DoomRulz on Jan 14, 2009, 04:34:06 PM
The 2nd film had more action than Predator. Way more.
There were more rounds fired in P1.

Nice. That also has, you know, no bearing on what I said.
Title: Re: Favourite Predator Movie?
Post by: Master Chief on Jan 16, 2009, 08:38:15 PM
And here I thought you were giving out useless fun facts about the films.  Forgive my ignorance.(https://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi230.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fee1%2Fdrstrust%2Fsmilies%2520and%2520emoticons%2Fcursor3.gif&hash=26d7e160d5dce35bc4520b14e070d389d861b966)
Title: Re: Favourite Predator Movie?
Post by: DoomRulz on Jan 16, 2009, 09:30:27 PM
Aw c'mon Chief, you know I meant no harm.

What I meant was, firing off more rounds doesn't mean more action. Remember the scene where the squad is shooting off in the jungle after Blain is killed? Sure, tons of rounds, but it was ultimately futile.
Title: Re: Favourite Predator Movie?
Post by: Master Chief on Jan 16, 2009, 10:00:15 PM
I'm well aware of your wittiness, Doom...I was just saying you're #1 in my book. ;)

And maybe it wasn't as futile as one would think.  Without that hail of gunfire, Dutch would've never had that "If it bleeds, we can kill it" attitude later on in the flick.
Title: Re: Favourite Predator Movie?
Post by: DoomRulz on Jan 16, 2009, 10:01:47 PM
True, but just because they're firing off hail of bullets doesn't mean the film has more action. It's like saying that because film A has a sequence where a group of people are at a firing range and they empty 2 dozen clips at targets then one of them says "Guns are useful", then it has more action than film B.
Title: Re: Favourite Predator Movie?
Post by: The Demon on Jan 16, 2009, 11:46:05 PM
Quote from: Master Chief on Jan 16, 2009, 12:11:24 AM
Yeah, you didn't? Hmph, and you want people to call you Wolf.

No. Wolf is actually my name.  ::)
Title: Re: Favourite Predator Movie?
Post by: fonzi on Feb 01, 2009, 10:07:14 AM
Like so many here I also like both but prob would pick Predator.
Title: Re: Favourite Predator Movie?
Post by: AVPVT Extinction on Feb 03, 2009, 03:51:30 PM
My favorite Predator movie of all time has to be the first one, because of Arnie, Ventura, and the Predator's design which kicks ass :)
Title: Re: Favourite Predator Movie?
Post by: ALIEN 101 on Feb 03, 2009, 04:19:05 PM
yeah me to, i luv the second one but the first ones brilliant
Title: Re: Favourite Predator Movie?
Post by: Predator King on Feb 03, 2009, 09:50:53 PM
I loved Predator 2. Danny Glover is my all time favourite actor, plus I personally loved the look of the Predator. In my opinion, the Predator looked best with or without its mask. Furthermore, the Predator had a lot more screen time.
Title: Re: Favourite Predator Movie?
Post by: PREDATOR1987 on Feb 05, 2009, 07:31:43 PM
I love both, ;D but i just think the first one is brilliant for it's time...the effects and the whole think is just fantastic!  :D
Title: Re: Favourite Predator Movie?
Post by: Predator King on Feb 06, 2009, 11:47:27 AM
I'll have to agree with you on your comment. Your absolutely right about the first one being brillant for its time. The effects were amazing. The same applies for the second one as well. Both had really amazing effects for their time and I think that is what defines the Predator series on a whole. :)
Title: Re: Favourite Predator Movie?
Post by: ALIEN 101 on Feb 06, 2009, 05:44:11 PM
Quote from: Predator King on Feb 06, 2009, 11:47:27 AM
I'll have to agree with you on your comment. Your absolutely right about the first one being brillant for its time. The effects were amazing. The same applies for the second one as well. Both had really amazing effects for their time and I think that is what defines the Predator series on a whole. :)

I couldn't agree more
Title: Re: Favourite Predator Movie?
Post by: Shadow Hunter on Feb 09, 2009, 01:35:00 PM
I love them both but it has to be the original.
Title: Re: Favourite Predator Movie?
Post by: Ninja Pred on Feb 23, 2009, 01:16:55 AM
The first Predator is amazing. I don't really like the second one.
Title: Re: Favourite Predator Movie?
Post by: Yautjaboy on Feb 23, 2009, 01:23:40 PM
The first one is the best, but the second is also not bad.
I love the sinister atmosphere of the first one and the Predator was awesome! ;D
Title: Re: Favourite Predator Movie?
Post by: DoomRulz on Feb 23, 2009, 01:49:10 PM
The second seemed more like a cheesy B movie. The first one seems more like a real film.
Title: Re: Favourite Predator Movie?
Post by: xeno_alpha_07 on Feb 23, 2009, 11:32:48 PM
Well even thought i like em both i have to choose Predator 1.  I also like the fact in Predator 1 theres a mystique about the creature theres not much you know about him. Plus you don't see much of the Predator in full form until towards the end  Unlike Predator 2 where Th Predator's reveled allot more.
Title: Re: Favourite Predator Movie?
Post by: Aeus on Feb 27, 2009, 01:02:53 PM
Predator.

While I dislike the sequel there are moments where I liked it. Such as when the Predator leaps down from the building and walks towards King Willie, also the bit where Harrigan busts into the Slaughter House shouting "You want me? Here I am!" and the Predator just loses all care for Keyes and goes after 'the lion.'
Title: Re: Favourite Predator Movie?
Post by: WolfPredator89 on Mar 06, 2009, 04:26:39 AM
i like both... but i prefer the second maybe because it let you know more about the preds and the predator design is better
Title: Re: Favourite Predator Movie?
Post by: Awgustas on Mar 13, 2009, 09:47:44 AM
Ah-nuld is the man! I just love Predator 1 ^^
Title: Re: Favourite Predator Movie?
Post by: Colinmarcus on Mar 24, 2009, 11:56:12 AM
I like the first more, it's classic  ;D

The second one is good too, especially thanks to Glover, but I still prefer the first one.
Title: Re: Favourite Predator Movie?
Post by: Rorschach on Mar 28, 2009, 04:11:01 PM
I voted Predator. I loved the exotic jungle setting. The way the Predator leaped from tree to tree looked great. And how the Predator blazed through the trees to get to Dillion, very scary, thrilling and a truly memorable scene. Let's not forget the Predator design itself, especially the face and the glowing eyes. Very spooky.  ;D
Title: Re: Favourite Predator Movie?
Post by: HitmanR on Apr 05, 2009, 05:47:06 PM
They are both great movies.

1st one of introducing the hunter. I love the finishing scene in which Pred is fighting Dutch, would be a great honor if he managed to kill him.

Predator 2 shows the hunter right away, there's no need to introduce him, surely he died with great honor, etc King Willie :)

They simply rock, great Kevin P. Hall played both of 'em, so common, you can't say "Pussyface" sucks as of a character.
Title: Re: Favourite Predator Movie?
Post by: Awgustas on Apr 06, 2009, 08:46:19 AM
I like 'em both, man! But still, I think Predator was abit better than Predator 2.
P1 had GREAT acting, GREAT pacing, really good effects for a movie that old, good script etc.
Title: Re: Favourite Predator Movie?
Post by: philsaw101134 on Apr 07, 2009, 02:27:21 PM
Predator 2 was great... but the first one has a slight edge over it.
So Predator 1 it is.
Title: Re: Favourite Predator Movie?
Post by: Kestor on Apr 08, 2009, 04:54:28 PM
Both of them.

The first one has a deep, mysterious, claustrophobic aura of a dense forest where a Hunter kills it's prey.

The second one gives us more insight into the Predator race itself, as well as their code of honor, beliefs and much more.
Title: Re: Favourite Predator Movie?
Post by: walterf on Apr 15, 2009, 09:52:42 PM
Gotta go with Pred 1 even though I do love Pred 2 as well.

One thing is the setting. To have these guys isolated in the woods is a very unique and cool enviroment different than almost anything else. Also, the characters were really good. Each character was unique and they were really all great actors. Sure, Jesse was a little over the top and all, but it seemed realistic and each character had depth to them.

I think the biggest thing hampering Pred movies since the first one to living up to the original are the cardboard characters. Danny's character in Pred 2 was fine ,but almost every other character was very bad and, of course, the AVP movies have some of the corniest characters ever, just horrible.

But Pred 2 did have strong points. The city setting was cool with loads of awesome scenes and a very cool ending, but Pred 1 just had it all going right.
Title: Re: Favourite Predator Movie?
Post by: ForTheLasTime on Apr 23, 2009, 04:58:58 AM
Predator 1
Title: Re: Favourite Predator Movie?
Post by: Veteran Warrior on May 10, 2009, 05:18:51 PM
Both are just phenominal, but I really like the second Predator film
Title: Re: Favourite Predator Movie?
Post by: predator55 on May 25, 2009, 01:59:02 PM
Predator 2 is fantastic but my fav is predator 1, due to the storyline, characters, and the suspense of finding out what it is the forset, awsome movie!
Title: Re: Favourite Predator Movie?
Post by: TJ Doc on May 29, 2009, 04:37:26 PM
This is a really tough decision since they're both pretty damn good. 'Predator' is just a quintessential Arnie classic, while 'Predator 2' simply builds upon what was set up by the titular character to great effect.

Ultimately, though, I'd have to go with the original. Mainly because of the final confrontation between Arnholt and the Predator (kicked off by one of his greatest ever lines  :))

But that's where the sequel stalls for me. The climax ends up dragging on a bit too much and the creature is eventually defeated in an anticlimactic manner (in my opinion).

But yeah, both films rule anyway!
Title: Re: Favourite Predator Movie?
Post by: predator55 on May 30, 2009, 01:57:34 AM
To right mate..they rule..." You are one ugly muthf**ker " hahahhahahahaha
Title: Re: Favourite Predator Movie?
Post by: Nachtfalke on Jun 03, 2009, 07:05:26 AM
'Predator'. I'm a big Arnold fan its true, but if 'Predator 2' stayed truer to the style of the first film - Eg. can the try hard Verhoeven style - it would have been a harder choice - still, P2 builds upon Predator nicely and is solid enough.
Title: Re: Favourite Predator Movie?
Post by: JamesCameronOnline on Jun 15, 2009, 09:51:27 PM
First one. No competition here
Title: Re: Favourite Predator Movie?
Post by: xxxPREDBUGxxx on Jun 19, 2009, 12:23:58 AM
PREDATOR! duh  ;)
Title: Re: Favourite Predator Movie?
Post by: PREDATOR1125 on Jun 19, 2009, 06:50:38 PM
I own both of them. But I have to go with number 1. Arnie is so bad ass in it. And so is the pred.
Title: Re: Favourite Predator Movie?
Post by: wolfpredator416 on Jun 28, 2009, 07:46:09 AM
The first predator film was epic i mean it was always going to be a challenge to make a sequel of it, but i must say predator to is quite a good watch, but at the end of the day i would probably rather watch the first predator film  ;D
Title: Re: Favourite Predator Movie?
Post by: drake@ on Jul 05, 2009, 12:00:20 AM
they are both great! like predator 2 a little more! nothing bad to say about the first predator! predator looked badass in it! love that disc it threw!
Title: Re: Favourite Predator Movie?
Post by: Rebellion on Jul 07, 2009, 06:43:16 AM
Predator is the best. nuff said
Title: Re: Favourite Predator Movie?
Post by: TheMonolith on Jul 18, 2009, 04:09:54 AM
I love the second film, but the first one had a sense of dread from the point which the skinned bodies were found onward. That dread alone was what got me hooked on the film.
And with me, dread always gets a winning vote.
Title: Re: Favourite Predator Movie?
Post by: Bone Crusher on Jul 23, 2009, 01:04:02 PM
I agree with most of the points here, the orginal will always be my favourite. It's also my 2nd favourite Arnie film, first being Terminator 2. :D
Title: Re: Favourite Predator Movie?
Post by: Keith on Jul 26, 2009, 11:46:15 AM
Top 10 Reasons "Predator 2" Is the Best of the "Predator" Franchise: http://www.scene-stealers.com/tag/top-10-reasons-predator-2-is-the-best-of-the-%e2%80%9cpredator%e2%80%9d/ (http://www.scene-stealers.com/tag/top-10-reasons-predator-2-is-the-best-of-the-%e2%80%9cpredator%e2%80%9d/)

The people making "Predators" should read this for advice on how to make a "Predator" sequel.
Title: Re: Favourite Predator Movie?
Post by: The Demon on Jul 26, 2009, 05:02:41 PM
Great points made there and yes, the people who will be responsible for PREDATORS should read that article very closely.
Title: Re: Favourite Predator Movie?
Post by: Spidey3121 on Jul 27, 2009, 04:21:30 AM
You could argue the reverse for many of those points on why the first Predator is the best.
Title: Re: Favourite Predator Movie?
Post by: The Demon on Jul 28, 2009, 03:29:35 AM
Which just goes to show they are both great films.
Title: Re: Favourite Predator Movie?
Post by: DoomRulz on Jul 28, 2009, 03:00:18 PM
Quote
and the script were so awesome that people obviously had a line forming to the left to get in on "Predator 2"—this miracle of cinema.

Right...because lines like "Shiiiit happens" and "Motherrrrfuuucker" were sheer genius. Seriously, when did Predators start taking ESL classes?
Title: Re: Favourite Predator Movie?
Post by: The Demon on Jul 29, 2009, 05:06:19 AM
Those two lines were very easy to look past with how entertaining the film was.
Title: Re: Favourite Predator Movie?
Post by: DoomRulz on Jul 29, 2009, 03:15:02 PM
It was entertaining I'll agree, but it was cheesy as f**k.
Title: Re: Favourite Predator Movie?
Post by: The Demon on Jul 30, 2009, 05:55:16 AM
I think that movie has a brilliant balance of cheese and seriousness.

The movie is very much based on the Predator Concrete Jungle comic book. Even the candy line was taken from that comic. It was slightly different though.
Title: Re: Favourite Predator Movie?
Post by: dallevalle on Aug 06, 2009, 09:01:52 AM
i love them both but of couse predator 1 is the best :) its the first but predator 2 is a really awsome movie too.
Title: Re: Favourite Predator Movie?
Post by: Pred Killer on Aug 15, 2009, 01:29:47 PM
P1 was good...
Title: Re: Favourite Predator Movie?
Post by: Rebellion on Aug 18, 2009, 09:34:10 AM
p1 was awesome.....
Title: Re: Favourite Predator Movie?
Post by: Toxic Predator on Aug 18, 2009, 10:21:52 AM
I got to say PREDATOR 1. It was way better then PREDATOR 2 :)
Title: Re: Favourite Predator Movie?
Post by: The Demon on Sep 07, 2009, 04:35:19 AM
I find Predator 2 to be very under rated. Anyone else agree? (probably not)
Title: Re: Favourite Predator Movie?
Post by: TheMonolith on Sep 07, 2009, 03:36:50 PM
Quote from: The Demon on Sep 07, 2009, 04:35:19 AM
I find Predator 2 to be very under rated. Anyone else agree? (probably not)

Are you kidding? Pred 2 is just as good as the first movie IMO and one of my favorite Sci Fi films.
Title: Re: Favourite Predator Movie?
Post by: Johnny Handsome on Sep 07, 2009, 03:44:00 PM
Quote from: The Demon on Sep 07, 2009, 04:35:19 AM
I find Predator 2 to be very under rated. Anyone else agree?
Fully agreed.
Title: Re: Favourite Predator Movie?
Post by: wolfboy22 on Sep 07, 2009, 05:07:43 PM
Quote from: The Demon on Sep 07, 2009, 04:35:19 AM
I find Predator 2 to be very under rated. Anyone else agree? (probably not)

^This.
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Post by: DoomRulz on Sep 08, 2009, 03:24:08 PM
Quote from: The Demon on Sep 07, 2009, 04:35:19 AM
I find Predator 2 to be very under rated. Anyone else agree? (probably not)

Not really. It's a fun movie, but it's nothing spectacular. The first film is way better.
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Post by: Master Chief on Sep 10, 2009, 07:30:42 PM
Speaking of our favorite galactic hunter, did anyone else find the Predator's reaction funny when Dutch shot that explosive tip spear at him at the end of the movie?  It surprised the hell out of him.  The way the Pred was cloaked and sneaking around and all of a sudden *EXPLODE* and it screams with his hands flailing in the air...hilarious!
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Post by: Johnny Handsome on Sep 10, 2009, 07:42:40 PM
Quote from: Master Chief on Sep 10, 2009, 07:30:42 PM
Speaking of our favorite galactic hunter, did anyone else find the Predator's reaction funny when Dutch shot that explosive tip spear at him at the end of the movie?  It surprised the hell out of him.  The way the Pred was cloaked and sneaking around and all of a sudden *EXPLODE* and it screams with his hands flailing in the air...hilarious!
He certainly was surprised but i think his reaction had more to do with the fact that the explosion hit a couple of inches in front of him, the shockwave almost swept him off the log and he was trying to balance himself out by lifting his arms.
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Post by: wolfboy22 on Sep 11, 2009, 01:04:54 AM
Quote from: Master Chief on Sep 10, 2009, 07:30:42 PM
Speaking of our favorite galactic hunter, did anyone else find the Predator's reaction funny when Dutch shot that explosive tip spear at him at the end of the movie?  It surprised the hell out of him.  The way the Pred was cloaked and sneaking around and all of a sudden *EXPLODE* and it screams with his hands flailing in the air...hilarious!

Spear? Don't you mean arrow?
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Post by: SiL on Sep 11, 2009, 01:08:53 AM
I think he means a bit later. He does throw a spear - The Predator is hiding in a tree when it goes off.
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Post by: Master Chief on Sep 11, 2009, 01:25:57 AM
I called it a spear because of how big it was...but yeah, arrow works.  I'm watching that scene right now and I love how the Pred is being sneaky...I'm rollin'. :D
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Post by: DoomRulz on Sep 11, 2009, 04:05:25 AM
Gotta hand it to Arnie, he's got some fantastic accuracy. He wasn't very close to the Pred's location when he threw that spear.
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Post by: CHAINS on Sep 11, 2009, 01:35:28 PM
hard to pick they were both great movies leaning towards predator 1.
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Post by: Falconer on Sep 11, 2009, 11:29:10 PM
Pred1  ;D
Pred2 is good too
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Post by: CHAINS on Sep 12, 2009, 03:03:06 PM
in predator 1 when you see it for the first time theres that suspense you know somethings stalking the solders but you don't know what. great thriller movie. predator 2 we already know what to expect still a great movie just not as much suspense. added allot more to the preds weapon's and showed the inside of the ship. had allot of action in the meathouse scene when the predator stalked and took out the special forces.
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Post by: A L I E N on Oct 08, 2009, 04:10:46 PM
Quote from: Darkness on Nov 17, 2006, 10:58:16 PM
I love them both too. But I've always loved the first Predator movie. Especially since Arnie's in it.

my post exactly! pred 1 all the way!
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Post by: Raptor on Oct 13, 2009, 10:44:28 PM
Predator.

I see it at least once a week.
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Post by: Weasel on Oct 16, 2009, 01:57:35 PM
Predator 1 obviously. So great, a true classic.
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Post by: Trey Smith on Oct 16, 2009, 02:07:30 PM
PREDATOR comes first because the cast and predator made it great.

PREDATOR 2 the predator stood alone the cast really didnt suck me in. the predator action alone made it great.REALLY UNDER-RATED better than what people give it credit for
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Post by: Master Chief on Oct 16, 2009, 03:57:09 PM
Yeah, P2 was a violent Predator.  He obviously didn't care about being too stealthy.  I'm still a fan of P1 though, hunting from the treetops was great.
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Post by: AncientPred on Oct 18, 2009, 08:04:16 AM
Predator 2 is criminally under-rated. But people have to remember that P1 and P2 are two different kinds of movies. Which highlights the beauty of the Predator franchise. The Alien films have to maintain continuity and overall tone but the Predator films can do anything. Just be true to the Predators and who they are and you can go anywhere, anytime.
Each film seems to embody a trend or popular style of the time. PREDATOR was an 80's action movie. PREDATOR2 was an early/mid 90's crime/detective story. Than you come to PREDATORS which may, like many others, try to be a modern scifi "epic".
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Post by: postman on Oct 26, 2009, 05:20:45 AM
Predator by a ton! P2 was ultra crap in my opinion.
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Post by: Asian Assassin on Oct 30, 2009, 04:28:12 PM
Predator 1, cant beat a classic
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Post by: sgt_mac on Nov 09, 2009, 05:54:57 PM
predator 1 will always be the best ;D
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Post by: NikTh on Nov 10, 2009, 02:06:44 AM
The first born
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Post by: Bender1988 on Nov 23, 2009, 07:16:36 PM
Predator 1
second is also good
But seriously-they will never make a better one than the two classics
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Post by: chrisr232007 on Nov 23, 2009, 08:10:19 PM
wow look at that poll its not even close which p2 is good but not even close to be what p1 is.............which is great
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Post by: Veteran Warrior on Dec 29, 2009, 10:45:58 PM
P1 is simply awesome, BUT, P2 will ALWAYS be my favorite predator film. 
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Post by: Armor on Jan 02, 2010, 11:11:12 PM
Predator 1 of course.

Movie just finished on our (Croatia) national TV, it was nice to watch him again  ;D
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Post by: EarthHive on Jan 04, 2010, 05:30:34 AM
Predator 1...a classic.  It really shows how people put up walls to hide their true nature.  The predator recognized each person's "wall" and broke it down and exposed them for what they are.  The reason Dutch lived....he was true to himself and never pretended to be something he wasn't.

Fantastic!
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Post by: peanut8 on Jan 04, 2010, 09:53:08 AM
The first 'Predator', without a doubt.
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Post by: Jorko_Beliata on Jan 08, 2010, 12:32:36 PM
Predator for me. :)
Really a classic!
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Post by: EarthHive on Jan 11, 2010, 02:40:10 AM
I really didn't know where to post this...but I wanted to tell you guys that on AMC Wednesday night starting at 8:00 Predator and then Aliens are going to be shown...at least here in the states...they are truly American Movie Classics.
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Post by: Master on Jan 11, 2010, 08:25:38 AM
Well I`ll show from different perspective: What made Predator what he is today? P2. That`s why I think that it is as good as original. For me it is one perfect sequel.
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Post by: Royce on Jan 11, 2010, 08:51:23 AM
My vote went to Predator 2. Don't get me wrong - I love Predator! It's a bloody brilliant piece of sci-fi action. That being said, I've always found Predator 2 to be a bit more enjoyable to watch. It's a bit over the top at times - yes but it's such a fun, action packed thrill ride. Bonus for me is that I like Predator's 2 cast of characters a bit more then Predator's cast.

Predator - 8.5/10
Predator 2 - 9/10
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Post by: Master on Jan 11, 2010, 10:01:07 AM
P1 and P2 = 10/10. My vote also went for P2.
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Post by: The Demon on Jan 11, 2010, 11:28:18 AM
I love both but I voted for Predator 2 because I thought it deserved more votes. I enjoy both equally but sometimes I sway towards Predator 2.
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Post by: keylight-di on Jan 11, 2010, 11:37:56 AM
Quote from: The Demon on Jan 11, 2010, 11:28:18 AM
I love both but I voted for Predator 2 because I thought it deserved more votes. I enjoy both equally but sometimes I sway towards Predator 2.

Good idea. I did this same. ;D
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Post by: Kriszilla on Jan 11, 2010, 12:57:21 PM
I prefer Predator 1, just a little.

I think the predator was far more menacing, and it's never been topped in any predator appearance since then.
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Post by: UltimateBadass on Jan 11, 2010, 10:30:22 PM
Predator 1

I really enjoyed P2 but no matter how many new Predator films come out, Predator 1 will always be the best for me.
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Post by: Billiken on Jan 15, 2010, 12:26:39 PM
I would say Pred 1. Pred 2 comes very close to beating it. 15 years ago I would have said Pred 2.
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Post by: Aliens_Diner86 on Jan 18, 2010, 10:10:28 PM
The first one all the way :P
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Post by: Veteran Warrior on Jan 18, 2010, 10:29:20 PM
Mine is P2 hands down, not that there is anything wrong with the first, I just love the second.  I just finished watching it on my blu-ray player lol
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Post by: m138jewski on Jan 19, 2010, 06:35:29 AM
I don't get some of the hatred I've seen for p2, movie is great. still to me, the first is superior
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Post by: EarthHive on Jan 20, 2010, 03:02:51 AM
I have a couple of beefs with P2 is that, IMO, too much was given away as far as the Predator is concerned.  Also, too much time was spent with Glover figuring out who was doing the killings.  And another thing is that there was no method to Predator's madness...he went on a mad ass killing spree.  Finally, I feel that it was rushed...there were no great moments as far as the script was concerned...where was the dialogue....where was the social commentary (P1 had social commentary)....

I also feel a lot of opportunities were lost, like when Glover went to talk to King Willie...in an alley.  Really...in an alley.  How about a nightclub and then have the predator bust through the skylight and take out Willie's men.

However, on other days I think Predator 2 is great.  I really have a mixed reaction to this film.
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Post by: ManBearPred on Jan 20, 2010, 08:05:54 PM
The first Predator is one of those movies I can always watch and usually do when it's on TV. Predator 2 is no slouch either but the first one will always hold that special place in my heart.
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Post by: Giant Ox on Jan 24, 2010, 05:13:59 PM
my fav is predator 1
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Post by: Kelevra on Jan 24, 2010, 07:26:40 PM
This was is a no-brainer for me really.
First fill just had more character development, that...Well you may not need in a predator film, it is nice to have. I also just overall preffered the Predator in the first one. Did the whole hunting thing abit better if you ask me.
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Post by: EarthHive on Jan 25, 2010, 01:43:53 AM
Sat. night...here in the states Predator and Predator 2 were on at the same time....pure bliss. 8)
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Post by: Fatal Facepalm on Jan 25, 2010, 02:50:59 AM
I really liked the predator from P2, but it seemed like it was cowardly compared to Anytime.   ;D Besides that the cast of P1 were old school larger than life style heroes.  I love P2, but I can watch P1 anytime  :)
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Post by: First Blood on Jan 25, 2010, 04:21:31 AM
I really liked Predator 1, I thought when Dutch's team assaulted the Guerrilla camp and the carnage that ensued was awesome.  I also liked the opening of Predator 1 with the commandos getting out of the helicopter and riding in the jeeps across the beach, with that amazing theme song playing!  8)
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Post by: Naska on Jan 25, 2010, 01:02:17 PM
Imho Predator 1 is the best Sci fi movie ever shot :)
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Post by: Space_Dementia on Jan 27, 2010, 07:09:10 PM
Very hard choice for me, as I love them both and for different reasons...

I had to go with the 2nd movie, yeah its abit 'yorky' (as Mcterrien described it himself) But it expanded the character and Predator universe, and had alot of neat, cool Ideas. Loved the final battle as well inside the Predator ship, was intense for me to watch this battered city cop take on the Pred.

Would just love to see all the deleted gory scenes put back in.  ;D
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Post by: MrBrokenTusks. on Feb 14, 2010, 05:42:15 PM
I haven't really been on the predator forum much just the avp bit so overall is predator 2 a hated movie like alien rez is or is it just not as good as original. I like them both equally but i voted predator 1 because it started it all off :)
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Post by: Basher917 on Feb 15, 2010, 03:14:51 PM
I loved the first film, i thought the second film was good too, but for me it was a disappointment how much better the first film was in my opinion.
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Post by: superdeathpredator on Feb 22, 2010, 02:24:41 PM
Its a tie for me but I might choose the second one, it has awesome weapons and a cool location.
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Post by: DamnBirds on Feb 25, 2010, 12:09:21 AM
Predator 2, is easily the better movie for me.

I can understand why so many love Predator, but never understood the Predator 2 hate.

Predator 2, moving to the "urban" jungle was a no brainer.  And to me as an audience member, seeing the Predator stalk and kill in a major urban city is more frightening than a team of black special forces agents fighting a creature in a FAR distint tropical rainforest.

I thought Predator 2 wreaked of more interesting atmosphere.  The jungle was cool, but you can only take it so far.  In the city, you had crazy street wars between rival drug gangs.  Diverse, interesting and funny Jamaicans and Latinos battling it out.  The urban decay was just awesome in this movie.

Predator 2 also took a significant step in advancing the mythos, and the world we know of the Predator.  Danny Glover was a straight up G, in this movie.  When people complain about him I immedietely roll my eyes.  He was as worthy of the protagonist role as Arnold, and casting him as an action hero was an interesting choice.  I thought the design of the Predator was more edgy and frightening as well.

And to me the end to Predator 2 was more epic than the end of the 1st film.  It gives you an idea of how long the Predators have been visiting earth for the thrill of the hunt.
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Post by: DoomRulz on Feb 25, 2010, 02:14:55 AM
I don't hate Predator 2, not at all. I just think it's really really cheesy.
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Post by: DamnBirds on Feb 25, 2010, 04:39:58 AM
Quote from: DoomRulz on Feb 25, 2010, 02:14:55 AM
I don't hate Predator 2, not at all. I just think it's really really cheesy.
I just don't see how it could be any more cheesy than the original.  Tone wise, they are very similar apart from the inherent comedy of a massive alien hunter encountering every day people like say the old woman whose apartment he busts into.
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Post by: EarthHive on Feb 25, 2010, 04:41:40 AM
Quote from: DoomRulz on Feb 25, 2010, 02:14:55 AM
I don't hate Predator 2, not at all. I just think it's really really cheesy.

The first Predator is the best hands down...I don't hate P2 either...I have no feeling one way or the other towards it....but it is hard  to believe the same people wrote both films.
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Post by: DoomRulz on Feb 26, 2010, 02:25:19 AM
Quote from: DamnBirds on Feb 25, 2010, 04:39:58 AM
Quote from: DoomRulz on Feb 25, 2010, 02:14:55 AM
I don't hate Predator 2, not at all. I just think it's really really cheesy.
I just don't see how it could be any more cheesy than the original.

It had Gary Busey. Enough said.
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Post by: DamnBirds on Feb 27, 2010, 09:45:15 AM
Quote from: DoomRulz on Feb 26, 2010, 02:25:19 AM
It had Gary Busey. Enough said.
Fantastic logic ...

And the original had Jesse "the Body" Ventura

Two can play that game
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Post by: Salt The Fries on Feb 27, 2010, 09:48:22 AM
Predator 1, no contest.
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Post by: EarthHive on Mar 01, 2010, 03:18:34 AM
Quote from: DoomRulz on Feb 26, 2010, 02:25:19 AM

It had Gary Busey. Enough said.

Adding Busey is never a bad idea...I just think he was used the wrong way. 

Predator 2 should have just been like this.  Two of the biggest gangs at peace for X number of years due to Harrigan's major crimes division. A predator kills a gang member in the style of the other gang and the two gangs begin fighting with a predator playing both sides and Harrigan's team caught in the middle.   I know that is a horrible plot...but my point is...this should have been a "small film"...meaning the government shouldn't have gotte involved.  Just keep it on the streets...

I don't know if that makes sense.
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Post by: Hive Tyrant on Mar 02, 2010, 04:52:49 PM
Quote from: EarthHive on Mar 01, 2010, 03:18:34 AM
Quote from: DoomRulz on Feb 26, 2010, 02:25:19 AM

It had Gary Busey. Enough said.

Adding Busey is never a bad idea...I just think he was used the wrong way. 

Predator 2 should have just been like this.  Two of the biggest gangs at peace for X number of years due to Harrigan's major crimes division. A predator kills a gang member in the style of the other gang and the two gangs begin fighting with a predator playing both sides and Harrigan's team caught in the middle.   I know that is a horrible plot...but my point is...this should have been a "small film"...meaning the government shouldn't have gotte involved.  Just keep it on the streets...

I don't know if that makes sense.

That's actually a pretty cool idea; a Predator indirectly manipulating humans to fight amongst each other, picking off the survivors as it goes. 'Cause, hey, it weeds out the weak and unworthy prey, amirite?
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Post by: DoomRulz on Mar 02, 2010, 10:40:04 PM
Quote from: DamnBirds on Feb 27, 2010, 09:45:15 AM
Quote from: DoomRulz on Feb 26, 2010, 02:25:19 AM
It had Gary Busey. Enough said.
Fantastic logic ...

And the original had Jesse "the Body" Ventura

Two can play that game

Not really. Jesse Ventura never claimed to be a good actor, hell the man never really made a serious career out of it.

Busey on the other hand...
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Post by: jn015 on Mar 04, 2010, 03:21:28 AM
They were both great.
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Post by: EarthHive on Mar 04, 2010, 03:50:54 AM
Quote from: Hive Tyrant on Mar 02, 2010, 04:52:49 PM
That's actually a pretty cool idea; a Predator indirectly manipulating humans to fight amongst each other, picking off the survivors as it goes. 'Cause, hey, it weeds out the weak and unworthy prey, amirite?

Your idea is better than mine.  I always loved how the Predator observed things.

What I was thinking was that this gang war was going on....and Harrigan's crew was assigned to stop it.  All the while a young Predator would watch the two gangs...and collect some general info on them.  Of course not know all of the members but know who the major players were.  He would notice Harrigan showing up at scenes and taking care of stuff.  Well the Predator came and went and whenever he came to Earth he would check up on Harrigan and the gang war.

Well he comes back much older and much more trained. He notices that the war has stopped and wants to hunt Harrigan...to become faimilar with the goings on....he starts a war.

Sounds crappy, I know.
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Post by: DamnBirds on Mar 05, 2010, 10:37:35 PM
Quote from: DoomRulz on Mar 02, 2010, 10:40:04 PM
Not really. Jesse Ventura never claimed to be a good actor, hell the man never really made a serious career out of it.

Busey on the other hand...
Yet still no logic in your statements.

How does that make one cornier than the other ...

Jesse Ventura was certainly an actor ... he was a wrestler for christ sakes.

Busey didn't say anything cheesy or corny in the film.  It was played straight forward.  You're not articulating how Busey being the movie therefore makes it cheesy.
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Post by: DoomRulz on Mar 06, 2010, 01:29:53 AM
His lines just sounded dumb. They could've used him intelligently but they give him stuff like "Let him go. We're too close". Not to mention that big, Busey-trademark close-up at the end right before the cater blows him away, yeesh. So annoying.
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Post by: DamnBirds on Mar 06, 2010, 04:25:13 AM
Quote from: DoomRulz on Mar 06, 2010, 01:29:53 AM
His lines just sounded dumb. They could've used him intelligently but they give him stuff like "Let him go. We're too close". Not to mention that big, Busey-trademark close-up at the end right before the cater blows him away, yeesh. So annoying.
They could've wrote better dialogue, sure but the line of dialogue you mention was hardly cheesy.  Not in the slightest.

You don't like P2, that's fine.  But don't sit here and give absolutely horrendous examples of "cheesiness" that weren't even there.
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Post by: DamnBirds on Mar 06, 2010, 04:30:16 AM
Quote from: DoomRulz on Mar 06, 2010, 01:29:53 AMBusey-trademark close-up at the end right before the cater blows him away, yeesh. So annoying.
Wait ... close ups are a "cheesy" Busey exclusive?

;D

You're hilarious
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Post by: DeadCities on Mar 06, 2010, 06:50:32 AM
Quote from: jimmyboy on Jan 19, 2007, 10:13:56 PM
P1 is the best movie I think but P2 is very good too... I like the fact its based in a city. The stealth in the Predator series is excellent, just like Solid Snake (Metal Gear Solid)!

Do I sense a Snake vs Predator tie-in? Cinematic gold! Let's see how the Predator fares against the might of the cardboard box!
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Post by: DeadCities on Mar 06, 2010, 06:54:58 AM
Quote from: DamnBirds on Mar 05, 2010, 10:37:35 PM
Jesse Ventura was certainly an actor ... he was a wrestler for christ sakes.

Busey didn't say anything cheesy or corny in the film.  It was played straight forward.  You're not articulating how Busey being the movie therefore makes it cheesy.

How can you not love a guy who has such epic lines like this: "Bunch a slack-jawed faggots around here! This stuff will make you a goddamn sexual tyranasaurus!"
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Post by: The Demon on Mar 06, 2010, 06:44:24 PM
Quote from: DoomRulz on Mar 06, 2010, 01:29:53 AM
His lines just sounded dumb. They could've used him intelligently but they give him stuff like "Let him go. We're too close". Not to mention that big, Busey-trademark close-up at the end right before the cater blows him away, yeesh. So annoying.

I still don't see how Gary Busy made the movie cheesy. I thought he made one of the best parts of the movie.
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Post by: DamnBirds on Mar 06, 2010, 08:58:36 PM
Quote from: The Demon on Mar 06, 2010, 06:44:24 PM
I still don't see how Gary Busy made the movie cheesy. I thought he made one of the best parts of the movie.
It's simple, cause he didn't ...
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Post by: DamnBirds on Mar 06, 2010, 09:00:10 PM
Quote from: DeadCities on Mar 06, 2010, 06:54:58 AM
Quote from: DamnBirds on Mar 05, 2010, 10:37:35 PM
Jesse Ventura was certainly an actor ... he was a wrestler for christ sakes.

Busey didn't say anything cheesy or corny in the film.  It was played straight forward.  You're not articulating how Busey being the movie therefore makes it cheesy.

How can you not love a guy who has such epic lines like this: "Bunch a slack-jawed faggots around here! This stuff will make you a goddamn sexual tyranasaurus!"
I love that line, and I love the film ... love Jesse Ventura in the film.  But he is chalk full of corny acting, they managed to keep it in check.  How is "Leave him alone, we're too close" any cheesier than "I don't have time to bleed."

::)

Both movies were awesome, and Busey being in P2 didn't make it cheesy.
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Post by: DoomRulz on Mar 07, 2010, 05:07:34 AM
I never said Busey made it cheesy. I said he was part of the reason it was cheesy.
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Post by: DamnBirds on Mar 07, 2010, 08:45:55 PM
Quote from: DoomRulz on Mar 07, 2010, 05:07:34 AM
I never said Busey made it cheesy. I said he was part of the reason it was cheesy.
Oh ok, well we will have to agree to disagree bruh
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Post by: DoomRulz on Mar 08, 2010, 02:55:06 PM
Chah.
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Post by: The Demon on Mar 08, 2010, 08:05:15 PM
Quote from: DoomRulz on Mar 07, 2010, 05:07:34 AM
I never said Busey made it cheesy. I said he was part of the reason it was cheesy.

I don't see much of a difference but whatever.
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Post by: DoomRulz on Mar 09, 2010, 03:30:57 AM
Predator 2 was cheesy for other reasons. That opening shootut scene was so OTT, not to mention all the gore the film had. Sure, Predator had gore too but it wasn't gushing blood.
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Post by: EarthHive on Mar 09, 2010, 03:40:49 AM
Quote from: DoomRulz on Mar 09, 2010, 03:30:57 AM
Predator 2 was cheesy for other reasons. That opening shootut scene was so OTT, not to mention all the gore the film had. Sure, Predator had gore too but it wasn't gushing blood.

It even had unnecessary bad language...I am no prude...but there was no reason for all of that language.
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Post by: The Demon on Mar 09, 2010, 11:37:23 AM
Quote from: DoomRulz on Mar 09, 2010, 03:30:57 AMnot to mention all the gore the film had. Sure, Predator had gore too but it wasn't gushing blood.

What can you expect when something like that uses the weapons it has one humans? No blood? The fact that it gushes makes it cheesy? So if it didn't gush it wouldn't be cheesy?
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Post by: DoomRulz on Mar 10, 2010, 04:03:23 AM
It doesn't have to be excessive. Blain was blown open and blood gushed, but it wasn't all over the freaking camera. It was at an angle, we got a burst of blood, and that was the end of it.
Title: Re: Favourite Predator Movie?
Post by: The Demon on Mar 10, 2010, 11:33:52 AM
What about Mac's dead where his brains were shot right into the camera?
Title: Re: Favourite Predator Movie?
Post by: DoomRulz on Mar 10, 2010, 04:05:14 PM
One shot. Versus at least four in Predator 2.
Title: Re: Favourite Predator Movie?
Post by: Omegamorph on Mar 10, 2010, 05:46:10 PM
Just finished Predator 2.
Man, this movie is awesome! I love it! Maybe a bit over the top bad language, but who cares! The Predators are badass, I love how Winston improved the design. The animatronic is a bit stiff at times, but is very organic nonetheless. "Would you like a candy?" LOL, legendary!  :D
Title: Re: Favourite Predator Movie?
Post by: The Demon on Mar 10, 2010, 10:25:59 PM
Quote from: DoomRulz on Mar 10, 2010, 04:05:14 PM
One shot. Versus at least four in Predator 2.

I'm still not seeing it. Predator 2 had alot of gore but in my opinion it was done correctly. It gave the movie a real sicking feeling, that's without mentioning you're in LA. You first started off saying the movie was cheesy because it had Gary Busey, then you go to say it wasn't just him, it was the gore. I'm not seeing it.

The only thing I found cheesy was the "mother f**ker!" which is no better than the Predator laugh in the first one, (so in that case I think both those scenes were awesome) and those goofy looking pistols we saw at the beginning. Even that is easy to look past, in my opinion.
Title: Re: Favourite Predator Movie?
Post by: OpenMaw on Mar 10, 2010, 10:42:32 PM
Quote from: The Demon on Mar 10, 2010, 10:25:59 PM
and those goofy looking pistols we saw at the beginning. Even that is easy to look past, in my opinion.

What goofy looking pistols?
Title: Re: Favourite Predator Movie?
Post by: Hive Tyrant on Mar 12, 2010, 07:57:36 PM
Quote from: OpenMaw on Mar 10, 2010, 10:42:32 PM
Quote from: The Demon on Mar 10, 2010, 10:25:59 PM
and those goofy looking pistols we saw at the beginning. Even that is easy to look past, in my opinion.

What goofy looking pistols?

All of them.
Title: Re: Favourite Predator Movie?
Post by: OpenMaw on Mar 12, 2010, 09:32:17 PM
Quote from: Hive Tyrant on Mar 12, 2010, 07:57:36 PM
Quote from: The Demon on Mar 10, 2010, 10:25:59 PM
and those goofy looking pistols we saw at the beginning.

All of them.

Again... Where are we talking? Jerry and Leona were using Sig's with laser sighting, Harrigan was using a Desert Eagle with laser sight... The guns he had in the back of his car were just an assortment of small and large calibre pistols like glocks, sig's, a 45 long slide, and a semi auto shotgun... Where are these "weird guns" at?
Title: Re: Favourite Predator Movie?
Post by: The Demon on Mar 12, 2010, 11:12:25 PM
You see what I'm talking about better during the gang war. Harrigan's team, their pistols had all these silly adds ons and it looked dumb. I'm assuming they were reaching for a some what futuristic approach seeing how it was set in 97 and they thought LA would be that bad by that time.
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Post by: DamnBirds on Mar 14, 2010, 04:07:57 AM
Quote from: OpenMaw on Mar 12, 2010, 09:32:17 PM
Quote from: Hive Tyrant on Mar 12, 2010, 07:57:36 PM
Quote from: The Demon on Mar 10, 2010, 10:25:59 PM
and those goofy looking pistols we saw at the beginning.

All of them.

Again... Where are we talking? Jerry and Leona were using Sig's with laser sighting, Harrigan was using a Desert Eagle with laser sight... The guns he had in the back of his car were just an assortment of small and large calibre pistols like glocks, sig's, a 45 long slide, and a semi auto shotgun... Where are these "weird guns" at?
Seriously ... all are realistic weapons.

LMAO
Title: Re: Favourite Predator Movie?
Post by: Devastator on Mar 14, 2010, 10:21:57 AM
Well Predator was really awesome!Had also Arnie which I like much as an actor.Predator 2 too was just good,not so Pred-look wise and also that Predator was a sucker...he lost one arm during a battle and he died on meele combat from a human..
Title: Re: Favourite Predator Movie?
Post by: ScoobySnax on Mar 15, 2010, 06:03:30 PM
Quote from: Corporal Hicks on Nov 05, 2006, 08:48:13 PM
You know. I love 'em both. I find them both really entertaining. It's so hard to choose.
Same here, 'cept I eventually settled on Predator 1 as the Logical choice.
Title: Re: Favourite Predator Movie?
Post by: AVPVT Extinction on Mar 22, 2010, 11:47:05 PM
QuoteFavourite Predator Movie?

Hmm, hard to choose. Both of them are great movies, but I prefer Predator one because it had more suspense and because it has the best Predator design of all the films.
Title: Re: Favourite Predator Movie?
Post by: Space Invader on Mar 27, 2010, 04:32:11 AM
Predator 1 was the best especially the fight in the end: Schwarzenegger vs Predator.
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Post by: Wolf_sas on Apr 02, 2010, 01:12:43 PM
Went for predator 1, I love both equally but the first one has the coolest cast, the predator being slowly revealed builds the tension, then when you finally see him he's awesome looking, then the fight with arnie - perfect.
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Post by: DamnBirds on Apr 05, 2010, 05:34:01 PM
Quote from: Predator Schwarzenegger on Dec 12, 2006, 12:32:21 PM
but I can't help but think if Jim Cameron had jumped at it as with Aliens it would have rocked.
Arnold had this huge powerful presence on screen (Conan, Terminator), as well as physically, and that made you think, wow if this big brawny powerhouse commando whose trained and combat proven has a tough time, this alien is one bad ass! Arnold's persona elevates Predator's menace.
The Predator in 2 is updated and looks fiercer, but seeing Glover put it in its place so easily makes it look wimpy and unconvincing.
Very good post.

Well you're getting a do-over sequel in a Cameron-esque "Aliens" style for Predator(s) with RR's sequel to the original.
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Post by: PredatorSniper on Apr 11, 2010, 10:00:12 PM
I like them both.
True Arnie isn't the best actor but it was a great concept and the film turned out awesome, did you know that while filming it Arnie got real sick and had to be put on IV's to hydrate him ... some sort of flu or something, I remember watching an interview with Arnie about it at one point and that they had to add a lot of foliage to the sets to make the jungle thicker.

As for the sequel it was okay it had its moments, I do like the second predators attitude a lot. I also liked to see all the other Predators in the end .... if you go to youtube you can find a behind the scenes dance routine from when they were all in the ship it is pretty funny.   

I would really like to see a movie with lots of Pedators throughout the whole movie but doubt it will happen.   Something like Predator: Bad Blood (comic mini series by dark horse) but with more of them fighting each other .... I hear that we might see a little something similar to that in the up coming Predators movie but that remains to be seen.
Title: Re: Favourite Predator Movie?
Post by: Race_of_Hunters on Apr 13, 2010, 06:07:01 AM
Predator is my favorite, quite easily.
Title: Re: Favourite Predator Movie?
Post by: Valaquen on Apr 16, 2010, 12:49:39 PM
Quote from: DoomRulz on Mar 09, 2010, 03:30:57 AM
Predator 2 was cheesy for other reasons. That opening shootut scene was so OTT, not to mention all the gore the film had. Sure, Predator had gore too but it wasn't gushing blood.
Well, so was the rebel battle in Predator. Predator is essentially an 80's macho movie in the vein of Rambo which descends into a horror movie. The Rambo sections and characters disarm the viewer. Once the Predator leaps in and lays waste to the team it's a shock. very effective. Predator 2 is a hard boiled cop film, all the cliches to boot, with an alien.
I love both movies, but Predator is better by a wide margin.
Title: Re: Favourite Predator Movie?
Post by: DoomRulz on Apr 16, 2010, 09:52:29 PM
Predator wasn't entirely cheese though. One scene, versus, to me, like at least 4 in Predator 2.
Title: Re: Favourite Predator Movie?
Post by: Valaquen on Apr 16, 2010, 09:56:40 PM
Quote from: DoomRulz on Apr 16, 2010, 09:52:29 PM
Predator wasn't entirely cheese though. One scene, versus, to me, like at least 4 in Predator 2.
True, Predator's cheesy scenes are focused on one spot of the movie, when Dutch's team fight the rebels. Exhilarating scene, but Arnold brings the cheese ("Knock, knock" "Stick around") and Blaine gets in another great one liner (no need to quote that one) and the rebels shoot like Stormtroopers. Afterward, the film turns on the 80's action movie and becomes a horror. In Predator 2, the hard boiled cop stuff doesn't quite go away.
Title: Re: Favourite Predator Movie?
Post by: DoomRulz on Apr 16, 2010, 10:03:42 PM
Indeed. I could never get over that ridiculous scene in the LAPD HQ at the beginning just after the opening sequence in the street. Seriously, even in Steven Seagal movies a police department doesn't look that crazy.
Title: Re: Favourite Predator Movie?
Post by: Valaquen on Apr 16, 2010, 10:06:01 PM
Quote from: DoomRulz on Apr 16, 2010, 10:03:42 PM
Indeed. I could never get over that ridiculous scene in the LAPD HQ at the beginning just after the opening sequence in the street. Seriously, even in Steven Seagal movies a police department doesn't look that crazy.
It always makes me think of the police station in Robocop.
Title: Re: Favourite Predator Movie?
Post by: Big_BLACK on Apr 16, 2010, 11:55:36 PM
Can't top the original.  Predator 2 has moments, but overall the concept isn't as engaging, mysterious, and as entertaining as the original film.
Title: Re: Favourite Predator Movie?
Post by: MadassAlex on Apr 17, 2010, 03:36:27 AM
Quote from: DoomRulz on Apr 16, 2010, 10:03:42 PM
Indeed. I could never get over that ridiculous scene in the LAPD HQ at the beginning just after the opening sequence in the street. Seriously, even in Steven Seagal movies a police department doesn't look that crazy.

The deal breaker for me was the slaughterhouse scene.

I mean, silver jumpsuits?
Title: Re: Favourite Predator Movie?
Post by: DoomRulz on Apr 17, 2010, 04:33:23 AM
I don't know if that was intentional simply because silver looks nice. Might have been silver, for the same reason lab coats are always white; just that way.
Title: Re: Favourite Predator Movie?
Post by: MadassAlex on Apr 17, 2010, 06:52:40 AM
I mean that it looks absolutely ridiculous.

Took me right out of the movie then and there.
Title: Re: Favourite Predator Movie?
Post by: ScoobySnax on Apr 17, 2010, 02:21:31 PM
Quote from: PredatorSniper on Apr 11, 2010, 10:00:12 PM
I would really like to see a movie with lots of Pedators throughout the whole movie but doubt it will happen.   Something like Predator: Bad Blood (comic mini series by dark horse) but with more of them fighting each other .... I hear that we might see a little something similar to that in the up coming Predators movie but that remains to be seen.
You mean like Predators?
Title: Re: Favourite Predator Movie?
Post by: StarBeast79 on Apr 18, 2010, 10:19:18 PM
I liked Pred 2 alright, I suppose.  Except for when the Pred says "motherf**ker" at the end.  Laugh out loud lame.
Title: Re: Favourite Predator Movie?
Post by: Billy on Apr 19, 2010, 12:31:36 PM
I like Predator (1) better in all aspects.

The atmosphere, characters, action, music, build-up and even the climax is better in my opinion. It's the ultimate action flick.

Title: Re: Favourite Predator Movie?
Post by: MrBrokenTusks. on Apr 19, 2010, 02:45:05 PM
Predator one ftw.
Title: Re: Favourite Predator Movie?
Post by: huntin8-t0n on Apr 20, 2010, 07:13:10 PM
p1
Title: Re: Favourite Predator Movie?
Post by: keylight-di on Apr 20, 2010, 10:44:27 PM
P 2 ;)
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Post by: Tangakkai on Apr 21, 2010, 01:13:11 AM
It's a very hard decision... love both ofcourse... but in the end the winner is:

Pred 2

it's so wild and chaotic and yet it somehow works perfectly... especially the meeting with "King Willie" is an all time favourite scene just like the dialogue between Harrigan and Keyes in the surveillance truck... boah those scenes give me goosebumps...

and then there are these magic shots:

1.Pred on the building fueling up with lightning.

2. Predator Clan decloaking (Fanboy in me cries tears of joy everytime i see it)
Title: Re: Favourite Predator Movie?
Post by: Skinner on Apr 21, 2010, 01:17:52 AM
Predator 2!
Title: Re: Favourite Predator Movie?
Post by: huntin8-t0n on Apr 21, 2010, 05:06:57 AM
Quote from: keylight-di on Apr 20, 2010, 10:44:27 PM
P 2 ;)

How dare you :D!


Quotethe winner is:

Pred 2

And you!

QuotePredator 2!

And you!!!

Just kidding :D

Though I didn't find p2 as much exciting, and the last chase scene is over the top and at some point (with Harrigan's 'funny' comments) it's boring. The whole movie is fine, I like it. Especially the jamaicans and King Willie (after the pred).
Title: Re: Favourite Predator Movie?
Post by: keylight-di on Apr 21, 2010, 06:26:25 AM
Quote from: 08yeyinde on Apr 21, 2010, 05:06:57 AM
Quote from: keylight-di on Apr 20, 2010, 10:44:27 PM
P 2 ;)

How dare you :D!

As you can see... ;D :P

I love P1 almost so much as P2. But P2 has so little votes, it's annoying. This movie is really underestimated. But it has IMHO great mood, scenography, actors, screenplay... I love it, sorry... ;D I couldn't resist...  ;D
Title: Re: Favourite Predator Movie?
Post by: Anto of the Sand on May 09, 2010, 02:00:15 PM
Dang! P2 getting its ass kicked.
Title: Re: Favourite Predator Movie?
Post by: DJ Pu$$yface on May 11, 2010, 07:49:09 AM
I love them both... but in the end I chose Predator 2.
Title: Re: Favourite Predator Movie?
Post by: Billiken on May 14, 2010, 01:13:57 PM
Initially I said Predator 1. Somehow I feel guilty for saying this but I think predator 2 is better. I love how they brought him to LA. The Action scenes are great, the pred kicks arse. I think it is more watchable than the first. I can watch it over and over. Plus I saw it first and grew up with it. I love Predator 1 aswell but Predator 2, there is something about it. I will never get sick of these movies. I hope when I pass away I am watching predator 2 and as the credits roll, I take my last breath.
Title: Re: Favourite Predator Movie?
Post by: AvatarIII on May 14, 2010, 01:25:26 PM
honestly it might have been 2 if there was someone better than danny glover in the lead. no offense to him, i'm sure he's a great guy, and he works well alongside Mel Gibson in the letha wepon movies, on his own he may have the charm but he doesn't have the acting chops to lead a movie.

i will now await execution.
Title: Re: Favourite Predator Movie?
Post by: Vulhala on May 14, 2010, 01:29:23 PM
P1 all the way. P2 was just stupid.
Title: Re: Favourite Predator Movie?
Post by: Billiken on May 14, 2010, 01:32:14 PM
Danny Glover was great. In Fact I know there was nobody else that could have played that part. And it was not stupid.
Title: Re: Favourite Predator Movie?
Post by: Omegamorph on May 14, 2010, 01:33:57 PM
Danny Glover is somewhat charismatic IMHO - and is second only to Tremors guys when he says F**k. :D
Title: Re: Favourite Predator Movie?
Post by: Hive Tyrant on May 14, 2010, 01:37:34 PM
I wonder how Predator 2 would have been with Steven Seagall as the leading actor.
Title: Re: Favourite Predator Movie?
Post by: Omegamorph on May 14, 2010, 01:41:07 PM
Quote from: Hive Tyrant on May 14, 2010, 01:37:34 PM
I wonder how Predator 2 would have been with Steven Seagall as the leading actor.
(https://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi43.tinypic.com%2F3539qj4.jpg&hash=6d7f2533968f5a3d8ac3d495de4e4b745e72299f)
Title: Re: Favourite Predator Movie?
Post by: AvatarIII on May 14, 2010, 01:49:27 PM
Quote from: OmegaZilla on May 14, 2010, 01:33:57 PM
Danny Glover is somewhat charismatic IMHO - and is second only to Tremors guys when he says F**k. :D

yeah he is charismatic, and like i said he has the charm, but you gotta admit he's not a great actor.

i can't really picture anyone else in the role, but that doesn't mean that there couldn't have been someone else in the role.
Title: Re: Favourite Predator Movie?
Post by: Anto of the Sand on May 15, 2010, 11:57:33 PM
That chart was amazing. Is there a Kevin Cossner version ?
Title: Re: Favourite Predator Movie?
Post by: TJ Doc on May 16, 2010, 12:51:58 AM
Quote from: AvatarIII on May 14, 2010, 01:49:27 PM
Quote from: OmegaZilla on May 14, 2010, 01:33:57 PM
Danny Glover is somewhat charismatic IMHO - and is second only to Tremors guys when he says F**k. :D

yeah he is charismatic, and like i said he has the charm, but you gotta admit he's not a great actor.

i can't really picture anyone else in the role, but that doesn't mean that there couldn't have been someone else in the role.

I think P2 is a great testament to his acting ability. It's amazing how well he plays a character that is the total opposite of his LW Murtaugh role.  :D
Title: Re: Favourite Predator Movie?
Post by: SpaceMarines on May 16, 2010, 01:01:28 AM
I love Glover. Few men are as kick-ass as he.
Title: Re: Favourite Predator Movie?
Post by: Anto of the Sand on May 16, 2010, 02:48:07 AM
He's gettin' a bit too old though. :D
Title: Re: Favourite Predator Movie?
Post by: SpaceMarines on May 16, 2010, 02:58:18 AM
Unfortunately, yes.
Title: Re: Favourite Predator Movie?
Post by: Anto of the Sand on May 16, 2010, 02:59:43 AM
He says so himself. :D
Title: Re: Favourite Predator Movie?
Post by: keylight-di on May 16, 2010, 04:21:54 AM
Quote from: AvatarIII on May 14, 2010, 01:49:27 PM
Quote from: OmegaZilla on May 14, 2010, 01:33:57 PM
Danny Glover is somewhat charismatic IMHO - and is second only to Tremors guys when he says F**k. :D

yeah he is charismatic, and like i said he has the charm, but you gotta admit he's not a great actor.


But you can't say that Arni it's better actor, isn't he?  ;D ;D
Title: Re: Favourite Predator Movie?
Post by: Billiken on May 16, 2010, 05:42:43 AM
Sure he's getting on now but back then he wasn't so of course he can't do as many action films now. He was still the best choice for the role no doubting that
Title: Re: Favourite Predator Movie?
Post by: MrBrokenTusks. on May 16, 2010, 09:03:20 AM
Has any one seen the Orange cinema advert with danny glover it is so full of win. I'll try to get it up on you tube.
Title: Re: Favourite Predator Movie?
Post by: Tangakkai on May 16, 2010, 01:02:44 PM
Danny Glover was the perfect choice in my opinion. He wasn't the cliché type action hero and in comparison to Arnie... at least Glover could act... Arnie never could...

Come on  guys... you seriously want to tell me that Arnie is the better actor than Danny  :D ?
Never. Arnie simply looked more the part but his acting was very weak... so weak that only the one liners saved him.

Danny was clumsy and everything... but far more identifiable and had better acting skills.
Title: Re: Favourite Predator Movie?
Post by: TJ Doc on May 16, 2010, 04:37:33 PM
Quote from: MrBrokenTusks. on May 16, 2010, 09:03:20 AM
Has any one seen the Orange cinema advert with danny glover it is so full of win. I'll try to get it up on you tube.

I got the impression that they wanted to get Bruce Willis but he was too expensive.  :D

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KrrbwruffG4
Title: Re: Favourite Predator Movie?
Post by: MrBrokenTusks. on May 16, 2010, 05:41:08 PM
Yer he owns on so many levels  8) but no one is any where near as glover even http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Pulp_Fiction_characters#Butch_Coolidge (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Pulp_Fiction_characters#Butch_Coolidge) Butch Coolidge :) and John Mclane
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Post by: SpaceMarines on May 16, 2010, 05:44:36 PM
Quote from: TJ Doc on May 16, 2010, 04:37:33 PM
Quote from: MrBrokenTusks. on May 16, 2010, 09:03:20 AM
Has any one seen the Orange cinema advert with danny glover it is so full of win. I'll try to get it up on you tube.

I got the impression that they wanted to get Bruce Willis but he was too expensive.  :D

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KrrbwruffG4

So great. :D
Title: Re: Favourite Predator Movie?
Post by: Thanatos on Jun 04, 2010, 09:45:52 AM
great love when danny sais im too old for this s***
Title: Re: Favourite Predator Movie?
Post by: TJ Doc on Jun 04, 2010, 02:46:21 PM
I think the most memorable was this one -

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_R5l4p9odYc
Title: Re: Favourite Predator Movie?
Post by: MrBrokenTusks. on Jun 04, 2010, 03:06:40 PM
I prefer him old tbh. He actually has a little smile in this one ;)
Title: Re: Favourite Predator Movie?
Post by: TJ Doc on Jun 04, 2010, 03:13:50 PM
I suppose he isn't nearly as 'I'm going to break your fu#king neck' intense as he used to be.  :D
Title: Re: Favourite Predator Movie?
Post by: First Blood on Jun 04, 2010, 03:56:01 PM
Quote from: TJ Doc on Jun 04, 2010, 02:46:21 PM
I think the most memorable was this one -

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_R5l4p9odYc

Nice to see he has a sense of humor!  :D
Title: Re: Favourite Predator Movie?
Post by: King Lordi on Jun 23, 2010, 06:44:57 AM
Predator one.
The characters were more memorable.
Title: Re: Favourite Predator Movie?
Post by: Spider One on Jun 27, 2010, 04:25:50 PM
Both are good in their own right, but I would have to say that Predator is far superior over Predator 2. I would like to have seen what Swayze would have done with Harrigan. 
Title: Re: Favourite Predator Movie?
Post by: TheCrimsonIdol on Jul 11, 2010, 06:24:15 PM
The first one of course! One of my all time favorite flicks ;D
Title: Re: Favourite Predator Movie?
Post by: superdeathpredator on Jul 11, 2010, 06:58:37 PM
Mine is Predator 2 I just like it more mainly because of Danny Glover and more Predator weapons. I still love predator though
Title: Re: Favourite Predator Movie?
Post by: The Demon on Jul 12, 2010, 05:31:39 AM
Predators must be added.
Title: Re: Favourite Predator Movie?
Post by: Jody=Geek on Jul 12, 2010, 10:31:21 AM
Predators. This is my list.
1. Predators
2. Predator
3. Predator 2
Title: Re: Favourite Predator Movie?
Post by: Huntsman on Jul 12, 2010, 11:11:30 AM
The original is my favourite, and truth be told, that's all I really need Yautja wise.
Title: Re: Favourite Predator Movie?
Post by: GhostWolf on Jul 21, 2010, 12:03:29 PM
I like them all, but the first one was the best.
Title: Re: Favourite Predator Movie?
Post by: iSeymore on Jul 21, 2010, 06:14:32 PM
In order:

Tie between Predator [1987] and Predators [2010]
2nd favorite; Predator 2 [1990]

Least Favorite; Alien Vs. Predator [2004]
2nd least favorite; Aliens Vs. Predator: Requiem [2007]; although the "Predator" parts of that movie were pimp.
Title: Re: Favourite Predator Movie?
Post by: FUZION PREDATOR on Jul 21, 2010, 06:25:47 PM
My list

1- Predator
2- Predator 2
1010- Predators
Title: Re: Favourite Predator Movie?
Post by: Crazy Joe Davola on Jul 22, 2010, 02:26:30 AM
Predator, Predators, Predator 2
Title: Re: Favourite Predator Movie?
Post by: Bloodee Jacob on Jul 23, 2010, 01:13:01 AM
Really close like most people but I chose the original Predator (1987). Overall better film and better Yautja.
Title: Re: Favourite Predator Movie?
Post by: Jam1977 on Jul 27, 2010, 11:12:42 PM
All 3 predator movies are great. But for me its Predator 2.

New weapons for the Predator, the tube sequence and the last 10 minutes on the ship expanded the whole Predator universe.   
Title: Re: Favourite Predator Movie?
Post by: StrangeShape on Jul 28, 2010, 06:34:08 AM
Predator. No doubt. Great, great buildup, tension and music. When I first rented it I didnt expect much. I saw Predator 2 first so I was expecting a cheesy action movie with a space guy thrown in. I was just shocked halfway through to find out its actually a serious and very well done movie. The pacing is terrific and even tho the characters all look like a bunch of wrestlers, they feel real and you feel for them.
Title: Re: Favourite Predator Movie?
Post by: gamerinflames on Jul 29, 2010, 10:35:14 PM
My favorite Predator movie was the 1st and 2nd one. This new one looks ridiculous and does not make any sense if you think about the pre-reqs that one predator was able to take out everyone. In the new one there is a whole planet and the forces of good are meant to win?!. . .Em.  .yeah

The only movie that I want to see this summer is Piranha 3D. Looks craaazy. Its the same director as Hills Have Eyes so it has to gut wrenching and thrilling. I am most stoked to see horror in 3d, and underwater at that.
Title: Re: Favourite Predator Movie?
Post by: Celtic Predator 2782 on Jul 30, 2010, 04:19:27 PM
Quote from: iSeymore on Jul 21, 2010, 06:14:32 PM
In order:

Tie between Predator [1987] and Predators [2010]
2nd favorite; Predator 2 [1990]


what he said

Title: Re: Favourite Predator Movie?
Post by: ScarPredator14 on Aug 05, 2010, 12:28:27 AM
the classic always wins this fight but PREDATORS was good and so was P2
Title: Re: Favourite Predator Movie?
Post by: MrBrokenTusks. on Aug 05, 2010, 12:35:46 AM
Pred 1. Epic.
Pred 2. Good but I prefer the setting and so on from the first.
Preds. Not seen.
Title: Re: Favourite Predator Movie?
Post by: Alienhunter15 on Aug 08, 2010, 05:36:41 PM
My favorite is predator 1 and also predator 2 because they are all good movies.

-alienhunter14
Title: Re: Favourite Predator Movie?
Post by: predators101 on Aug 12, 2010, 02:24:44 AM
i would put predator and predators as a tie then second p2 cause i guess you really can beat the original if its really good
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Post by: AvatarIII on Aug 12, 2010, 10:58:40 AM
Quote from: FUZION PREDATOR on Jul 21, 2010, 06:25:47 PM
My list

1- Predator
2- Predator 2
1010- Predators

is that in binary?
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Post by: huntin8-t0n on Aug 15, 2010, 07:24:11 PM
My favourite predator movies

1. Predator

2. Predator 2
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Post by: The PredBen on Aug 16, 2010, 03:41:05 AM
Predator.

Predators and Predator 2 are around the same ... Warring it off for 2nd place.
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Post by: Commander Gree on Aug 16, 2010, 10:35:02 AM
Got to say Predator is my favorite. Most of the time for me the first movie in any series is the best.
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Post by: galaxys ultimate hunter on Aug 18, 2010, 12:44:24 AM
I know its cliche but for me its the first one allthough the second was pretty good.
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Post by: Corporal Hicks on Aug 19, 2010, 11:08:45 AM
I've amended this poll to include Predators. You're also able to change your votes if you have a new decision.
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Post by: The Demon on Aug 19, 2010, 02:46:31 PM
Quote from: Corporal Hicks on Aug 19, 2010, 11:08:45 AM
I've amended this poll to include Predators. You're also able to change your votes if you have a new decision.

No one's going to vote Predators because most people already voted.
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Post by: Hive Tyrant on Aug 19, 2010, 06:47:05 PM
Quote from: Corporal Hicks on Aug 19, 2010, 11:08:45 AM
You're also able to change your votes if you have a new decision.

^
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Post by: BANE on Aug 19, 2010, 06:49:24 PM
I can't change my vote...
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Post by: The Demon on Aug 19, 2010, 08:16:18 PM
Me neither.
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Post by: MrBrokenTusks. on Aug 19, 2010, 09:40:47 PM
Me neither.
Title: Re: Favourite Predator Movie?
Post by: Kriszilla on Aug 20, 2010, 12:35:24 AM
Who would truly, with thought before the act - vote for that film anyway? Both previous movies were superior.
Title: Re: Favourite Predator Movie?
Post by: BANE on Aug 20, 2010, 12:36:37 AM
Quote from: Kriszilla on Aug 20, 2010, 12:35:24 AM
Who would truly, with thought before the act - vote for that film anyway? Both previous movies were superior.
Predator, yes. Predator 2, no.
Title: Re: Favourite Predator Movie?
Post by: Kriszilla on Aug 20, 2010, 01:50:10 AM
I disagree, but there's another thread for such discussions.
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Post by: OWLF on Aug 20, 2010, 01:51:46 AM
Quote from: Kriszilla on Aug 20, 2010, 12:35:24 AM
Who would truly, with thought before the act - vote for that film anyway? Both previous movies were superior.
^Agreed.
1.Predator
2.Predator 2
Title: Re: Favourite Predator Movie?
Post by: MrBrokenTusks. on Aug 20, 2010, 01:52:00 AM
That got locked for perfectly good reason, though even if you like predator 2 more it is slightly better quality in terms of film making, though you right this is not the place for it, well actually it is.
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Post by: BANE on Aug 20, 2010, 01:54:57 AM
Quote from: Kriszilla on Aug 20, 2010, 01:50:10 AM
I disagree, but there's another thread for such discussions.
I know. I just can't stand folk so hunkered down in their predispositions that no amount of clearly superior filmmaking can bring them out.
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Post by: OWLF on Aug 20, 2010, 02:12:34 AM
Predator 1                                       400 (79.7%)
Predator 2                                       102 (20.3%)
Predators                                            0 (0%)

Everybody seems to agree.
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Post by: MrBrokenTusks. on Aug 20, 2010, 02:13:32 AM
Ok I take it your joking, cause no one is that stupid.
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Post by: OWLF on Aug 20, 2010, 02:28:34 AM
Quote from: MrBrokenTusks. on Aug 20, 2010, 02:13:32 AM
Ok I take it your joking, cause no one is that stupid.
I wonder why Predators doesn´t get any votes.............. ;D
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Post by: BANE on Aug 20, 2010, 02:31:28 AM
Because it was added after everyone already voted, and there's no option to remove and change votes. Thats why. Its been repeated, what, fifty times in this thread?
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Post by: OWLF on Aug 20, 2010, 02:42:04 AM
Quote from: BLAIN on Aug 20, 2010, 02:31:28 AM
Because it was added after everyone already voted, and there's no option to remove and change votes. Thats why. Its been repeated, what, fifty times in this thread?
Why would you wanna change it? It´s perfect,just like it should be. ;D
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Post by: The Demon on Aug 20, 2010, 02:45:50 AM
Quote from: Lt. Ellen Ripley on Aug 20, 2010, 01:51:46 AM
Quote from: Kriszilla on Aug 20, 2010, 12:35:24 AM
Who would truly, with thought before the act - vote for that film anyway? Both previous movies were superior.
^Agreed.
1.Predator
2.Predator 2

I'm going to have to agree.
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Post by: huntin8-t0n on Aug 20, 2010, 04:40:26 PM
Predators is not a predator movie anyway  :P
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Post by: The Demon on Aug 20, 2010, 04:51:37 PM
How so?
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Post by: Omegamorph on Aug 20, 2010, 04:52:39 PM
Because it features BSPs as main characters. Real Predator is limited to a "cameo". :P
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Post by: huntin8-t0n on Aug 20, 2010, 04:54:12 PM
I didn't think because of that, but that can be also ;D ;D
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Post by: Omegamorph on Aug 20, 2010, 04:56:31 PM
08yeyinde isn't pleased by it?
:P
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Post by: huntin8-t0n on Aug 20, 2010, 04:59:52 PM
Ehh, only my reason to say is much more easier  :D
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Post by: Omegamorph on Aug 20, 2010, 05:07:07 PM
*Tries to scan Yeyinde's Mind but fails*
Gnah, it doesn't work :S
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Post by: huntin8-t0n on Aug 20, 2010, 05:08:18 PM
I deleted the thought right after writing the post, so only you can guess, sorry :-[

I wanted to make it a bit harder for you this time  :D :D
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Post by: Omegamorph on Aug 20, 2010, 05:17:59 PM
Um... because
-It doesn't feature Kevin Peter Hall as the Predator
-It doesn't have Stan Winston's effects
-It doesn't feature the classic Predator Roar
?
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Post by: BANE on Aug 20, 2010, 05:50:17 PM
Predators is better than Predator 2 in every fathomable way.
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Post by: huntin8-t0n on Aug 20, 2010, 06:03:09 PM
Quote from: OmegaZilla on Aug 20, 2010, 05:17:59 PM
Um... because
-It doesn't feature Kevin Peter Hall as the Predator
-It doesn't have Stan Winston's effects
-It doesn't feature the classic Predator Roar
?

It's easier :)
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Post by: BANE on Aug 20, 2010, 06:03:37 PM
Quote from: 08yeyinde on Aug 20, 2010, 06:03:09 PM
Quote from: OmegaZilla on Aug 20, 2010, 05:17:59 PM
Um... because
-It doesn't feature Kevin Peter Hall as the Predator
-It doesn't have Stan Winston's effects
-It doesn't feature the classic Predator Roar
?

It's easier :)
It doesn't have a sex scene?
Title: Re: Favourite Predator Movie?
Post by: Omegamorph on Aug 20, 2010, 06:10:50 PM
At least we know the names of all the main cast of P2.
:P
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Post by: BANE on Aug 20, 2010, 06:18:14 PM
Quote from: OmegaZilla on Aug 20, 2010, 06:10:50 PM
At least we know the names of all the main cast of P2.
:P
And you don't know the names of the people in Predators? I mean, you went in knowing their names due to your avid following of all the news up to its release. And I'm pretty sure they introduced themselves before they died.
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Post by: huntin8-t0n on Aug 20, 2010, 06:23:01 PM
Well... basically... it can't be a predator movie... because it's a predators movie.. haha ;D ;D

*takes cover and hides*
Title: Re: Favourite Predator Movie?
Post by: BANE on Aug 20, 2010, 06:24:36 PM
Quote from: 08yeyinde on Aug 20, 2010, 06:23:01 PM
Well... basically... it can't be a predator movie... because it's a predators movie.. haha ;D ;D

*takes cover and hides*
Ah. I understand. Very trivial, yes, but understandable. But, by your logic, Aliens isn't an Alien movie because its an Aliens movie.
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Post by: Omegamorph on Aug 20, 2010, 06:41:39 PM
Quote from: BLAIN on Aug 20, 2010, 06:18:14 PM
Quote from: OmegaZilla on Aug 20, 2010, 06:10:50 PM
At least we know the names of all the main cast of P2.
:P
And you don't know the names of the people in Predators? I mean, you went in knowing their names due to your avid following of all the news up to its release. And I'm pretty sure they introduced themselves before they died.
Um, no. If I hadn't followed the online featurettes and stuff I wouldn't know the name of Cuchillo, Mombasa, Stans and Edwin.
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Post by: BANE on Aug 20, 2010, 06:55:01 PM
Quote from: OmegaZilla on Aug 20, 2010, 06:41:39 PM
Quote from: BLAIN on Aug 20, 2010, 06:18:14 PM
Quote from: OmegaZilla on Aug 20, 2010, 06:10:50 PM
At least we know the names of all the main cast of P2.
:P
And you don't know the names of the people in Predators? I mean, you went in knowing their names due to your avid following of all the news up to its release. And I'm pretty sure they introduced themselves before they died.
Um, no. If I hadn't followed the online featurettes and stuff I wouldn't know the name of Cuchillo, Mombasa, Stans and Edwin.
Meh, they were basically cannon fodder. Alot like some of the expendable marines in Aliens, and the inmates in Alien 3, who I really can't remember the names of. I can remember what happens to different faces, but not their names.
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Post by: Omegamorph on Aug 20, 2010, 06:56:49 PM
Quote from: BLAIN on Aug 20, 2010, 06:55:01 PM
cannon fodder.
wat
May apply to Mombasa, but Stans and Edwin last pretty long. The Latter especially.
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Post by: BANE on Aug 20, 2010, 07:11:24 PM
Quote from: OmegaZilla on Aug 20, 2010, 06:56:49 PM
Quote from: BLAIN on Aug 20, 2010, 06:55:01 PM
cannon fodder.
wat
May apply to Mombasa, but Stans and Edwin last pretty long. The Latter especially.
I thought we were introduced to both of them? I really need to rewatch this movie. I distinctly remember them giving their names...
Title: Re: Favourite Predator Movie?
Post by: OWLF on Aug 20, 2010, 07:44:24 PM
Quote from: BLAIN on Aug 20, 2010, 05:50:17 PM
Predators is better than Predator 2 in every fathomable way.
Right there,with that comment,you lost any credibility of logic whatsoever.
Title: Re: Favourite Predator Movie?
Post by: BANE on Aug 20, 2010, 07:49:47 PM
Your lack of creativity in applying my exact same phrase against me is appalling. So, too, is your inability to give any credible reason for your choice of liking Predator 2 over Predators. If you provided a solid reason for your choice, Lt. Ellen Ripley, then I would not be so confrontational with you. However, you blaze forward with your choice, disregarding any evidence against your favoured movie as if you were completely and utterly blind.
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Post by: Omegamorph on Aug 20, 2010, 07:51:32 PM
Quote from: BLAIN on Aug 20, 2010, 07:11:24 PM
I thought we were introduced to both of them?
Gnah.
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Post by: BANE on Aug 20, 2010, 07:57:20 PM
Quote from: OmegaZilla on Aug 20, 2010, 07:51:32 PM
Quote from: BLAIN on Aug 20, 2010, 07:11:24 PM
I thought we were introduced to both of them?
Gnah.
No? Well I'll be damned...Still, I want to rewatch it just to make sure.
Title: Re: Favourite Predator Movie?
Post by: The PredBen on Aug 20, 2010, 08:41:49 PM
Predators and Predator 2 are both sequels.

Sequels , regardless of fanbase , that are always behind Predator.  :P
Title: Re: Favourite Predator Movie?
Post by: OWLF on Aug 20, 2010, 08:44:30 PM
Quote from: BLAIN on Aug 20, 2010, 07:49:47 PM
Your lack of creativity in applying my exact same phrase against me is appalling. So, too, is your inability to give any credible reason for your choice of liking Predator 2 over Predators. If you provided a solid reason for your choice, Lt. Ellen Ripley, then I would not be so confrontational with you. However, you blaze forward with your choice, disregarding any evidence against your favoured movie as if you were completely and utterly blind.
Applying your exact same phrase??Where??Show me.
I already stated my reasons of why Predator 2 is better than Predators in the "How in God´s name is P2 better than Predators?" thread:
QuotePredator 2 is way superior to Predators by far!!No doubt about it.
Lets just look at some of the facts of the production:
Jim and John Thomas (who wrote Predator) wrote the script for Predator 2.
Alan Silvestri (who composed the soundtrack for Predator)wrote the soundtrack for P2.
Kevin Peter Hall (original Predator performer)played the lead Pred in P2 as well.
Stan Winston Studios (makers of the original Predator design)made all the new designs in P2 as well.
Joel Silver (producer of Predator)produced P2 as well.
Great acting performances by Danny Glover,Gary Busey,Bill Paxton,Calvin Lockhart..........
The list goes on and on and on........
Predator 2 with those facts alone will always be infinitely better than Predators.
Those are just some facts not all,there are many more,like better Fx,Memorable lines,Action scenes,suit work,soundtrack......
Predators,on the other side,fails on so many levels it´s unbelieveable!!They are so many I don´t even know where to start!





Title: Re: Favourite Predator Movie?
Post by: BANE on Aug 20, 2010, 08:47:58 PM
Quote from: The PredBen on Aug 20, 2010, 08:41:49 PM
Predators and Predator 2 are both sequels.

Sequels , regardless of fanbase , that are always behind Predator.  :P
^ this I can agree with.
Title: Re: Favourite Predator Movie?
Post by: The PredBen on Aug 21, 2010, 09:11:35 PM
I don't see the rivarly between Predator 2 fans and Predators fans.

I mean , both had shortcoming , and both groups consider ( usually) the original superior ...
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Post by: BANE on Aug 21, 2010, 09:21:57 PM
QuoteApplying your exact same phrase??Where??Show me.
You said:
QuoteRight there,with that comment,you lost any credibility of logic whatsoever.
and I said:
Quotebasically throws all your credibility in this discussion out the window.
In the "How in God's name is P2 better than Predators" thread. I actually said the same thing TWICE, and then you come in here and say nearly the exact same thing back to me.

QuoteJim and John Thomas (who wrote Predator) wrote the script for Predator 2.
Alan Silvestri (who composed the soundtrack for Predator)wrote the soundtrack for P2.
Kevin Peter Hall (original Predator performer)played the lead Pred in P2 as well.
Stan Winston Studios (makers of the original Predator design)made all the new designs in P2 as well.
Joel Silver (producer of Predator)produced P2 as well.
Great acting performances by Danny Glover,Gary Busey,Bill Paxton,Calvin Lockhart..........
The list goes on and on and on........
Predator 2 with those facts alone will always be infinitely better than Predators.
Jim and John Thomas' original script was shit.
The Predators soundtrack did the exact same thing as P2's did: took what the original did, and slightly modified it.
Agreed with KPH comment.
Stan Winston does not an amazing movie make. The creatures in Predators were fine.
How does Joel Silver make P2 better than Predators, again?
Great acting performances by Walton Gogging, Adrien Brody, Laurence Fishburne...
The list goes on and on...
Title: Re: Favourite Predator Movie?
Post by: DoomRulz on Aug 22, 2010, 02:03:24 AM
Neither film had terrific acting. Glover and Fishburne were good, but the rest were just bleh. In Predators especially. It would have been a miracle if anyone could have done something besides scowl for 1.5 hrs.
Title: Re: Favourite Predator Movie?
Post by: SpaceMarines on Aug 22, 2010, 03:17:59 AM
Agreed, Doom.

Quote from: BLAIN on Aug 20, 2010, 05:50:17 PM
Predators is better than Predator 2 in every fathomable way.

Except in the ways it isn't. I very much enjoy P2; it's a fun movie, and it had in the main lead an actor who fit the role, which was a huge help.

In Predators, I didn't really enjoy myself while watching it. RR's influence was quite evident to me, and I do not like him much as a filmmaker. The fact that Brody didn't fit the role well, and that he didn't give a very good performance, did not help.
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Post by: DoomRulz on Aug 22, 2010, 01:40:58 PM
Didn't enjoy yourself? Well Marines, there's a Viagra for that ;)
Title: Re: Favourite Predator Movie?
Post by: SpaceMarines on Aug 22, 2010, 04:25:07 PM
Dude... I'm 15.
Title: Re: Favourite Predator Movie?
Post by: The PredBen on Aug 22, 2010, 04:39:53 PM
Predator 2 had zero suspense. Thats its major flaw. My main gripe with Predators is that it had no good character arcs. They were just " jobs" who died.

Those flaws were not in Predator , the best film by far , in the franchise.
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Post by: DoomRulz on Aug 24, 2010, 12:11:08 AM
Quote from: SpaceMarines on Aug 22, 2010, 04:25:07 PM
Dude... I'm 15.

Sarcamz. I has it.
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Post by: SpaceMarines on Aug 24, 2010, 01:16:35 AM
As do I. ;)
Title: Re: Favourite Predator Movie?
Post by: The PredBen on Sep 06, 2010, 02:18:39 AM
For some reason I cant' take Glover seriously in Predator 2 ... Its to god damn comedic.
Title: Re: Favourite Predator Movie?
Post by: SpaceMarines on Sep 06, 2010, 04:59:22 AM
Glover is just awesome. In everything. Much like Lance Henriksson, or Keith David.
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Post by: Sharp Sticks on Sep 06, 2010, 05:14:43 AM
I too enjoy a slice of cheese on my proverbial cinematic English muffin.
Title: Re: Favourite Predator Movie?
Post by: Anto of the Sand on Sep 06, 2010, 02:18:59 PM
I wanna' change my vote to Predators.
Title: Re: Favourite Predator Movie?
Post by: SpaceMarines on Sep 06, 2010, 04:01:59 PM
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Post by: samurai72 on Sep 07, 2010, 01:47:12 PM
I personally love all three.  I consider them one big movie with separate chapters.

What I want to know is, when are they going to make a Predators-only movie?  When I first heard about them making a AVP movie, I read that the script was about 15 pages long with hardly any humans, a huge number of aliens and a large amount of Predators.  That's all I want- Predators.  And lots of them.  Just have them on the hunt, show their homeworld and other planets, and have them talking in their language and just translate it in subtitles.  I think it would be cool as hell!  Each of the movies has been based on the humans interacting with the Predator threat.  I want to see just the Predators doing their thing!  Amyone else agree?
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Post by: WolfPredator89 on Sep 14, 2010, 04:25:35 PM
 i would like to see a predator movie in the predator planet showing how the enviorment is...(something like in avp:r appeared)..., the species( if they didnt kill them all ;D) from that planet, the organization, the predator female, a movie that explains more their biology.
Title: Re: Favourite Predator Movie?
Post by: DoomRulz on Sep 14, 2010, 08:32:30 PM
We got half of that in Predators and look how it turned out.
Title: Re: Favourite Predator Movie?
Post by: Royce on Nov 06, 2010, 08:34:30 PM
1. PREDATOR 2 - 8.5/10
2. PREDATOR AND PREDATORS - 8/10
Title: Re: Favourite Predator Movie?
Post by: DJ Pu$$yface on Nov 07, 2010, 02:25:40 AM
Quote from: DoomRulz on Sep 14, 2010, 08:32:30 PM
We got half of that in Predators and look how it turned out.

Very well, I think. My favourite movie in the franchise.  ;D
Title: Re: Favourite Predator Movie?
Post by: Tangakkai on Nov 07, 2010, 02:26:33 AM
Quote from: Royce on Nov 06, 2010, 08:34:30 PM
1. PREDATOR 2 - 8.5/102. PREDATOR AND PREDATORS - 8/10

Ah, me likey..
Title: Re: Favourite Predator Movie?
Post by: Prime113 on Nov 07, 2010, 03:59:51 AM
Quote from: SpacePredator on Nov 07, 2010, 02:25:40 AM
Quote from: DoomRulz on Sep 14, 2010, 08:32:30 PM
We got half of that in Predators and look how it turned out.

Very well, I think. My favourite movie in the franchise.  ;D

Studly!  ;D
Title: Re: Favourite Predator Movie?
Post by: Omegamorph on Nov 07, 2010, 05:44:21 PM
Quote from: Tangakkai on Nov 07, 2010, 02:26:33 AM
Quote from: Royce on Nov 06, 2010, 08:34:30 PM
1. PREDATOR 2 - 8.5/102. PREDATOR AND PREDATORS - 8/10

Ah, me likey..
Me, too. Been some time huh 'Kai? :D
Title: Re: Favourite Predator Movie?
Post by: lozzy.94 on Jan 06, 2011, 11:17:44 AM
have to go with Predators ,because of these reasons.
*on another planet.
* has another type of predator.
* shows other alien species.
*better hunting tactics than the first two movies.
* long tall sally plays on the credits.

but i love all the Predator movies (even AVP:R).
Title: Re: Favourite Predator Movie?
Post by: Omegamorph on Jan 07, 2011, 03:43:43 PM
Quote from: lozzy.94 on Jan 06, 2011, 11:17:44 AM
*better hunting tactics than the first two movies.
That, ironically, end up with worse results. :P
Title: Re: Favourite Predator Movie?
Post by: predxeno on Jan 19, 2011, 06:35:12 PM
My favorite movie is Predators.
Title: Re: Favourite Predator Movie?
Post by: AliceApocalypse on Jan 20, 2011, 02:33:14 PM
It's hard to decide P1 or P2, I like both for different reasons.

In P1 the Predator was a deadly mysterous creature from outerspace and the cast/action was awesome.

P2 gave us more Predator.  We see him eat, more of him uncloaked, more indepth medical repairs, more Predators at the end, the ship, the trophy case...a few examples. Sure we also get this with Predators, just not too fond of the SP's yet. 
Title: Re: Favourite Predator Movie?
Post by: TheMonolith on Jan 20, 2011, 02:44:45 PM
Glad to see Predator 2 is finally getting some love. It really isn't as bad as everyone says.
About the only thing I can see wrong with it is the mechanical effects are kinda poor in some scenes.
Title: Re: Favourite Predator Movie?
Post by: predxeno on Jan 20, 2011, 06:12:35 PM
Quote from: AliceApocalypse on Jan 20, 2011, 02:33:14 PM
P2 gave us more Predator.  We see him eat, more of him uncloaked, more indepth medical repairs, more Predators at the end, the ship, the trophy case...a few examples. Sure we also get this with Predators, just not too fond of the SP's yet.

We see him eat?
Title: Re: Favourite Predator Movie?
Post by: Omegamorph on Jan 20, 2011, 06:19:05 PM
He has a soft spot for Beef....
Title: Re: Favourite Predator Movie?
Post by: Sharp Sticks on Jan 20, 2011, 06:19:57 PM
Quote from: OmegaZilla on Jan 20, 2011, 06:19:05 PM
He has a soft spot for Beef....

Didn't think he was a vegetarian.
Title: Re: Favourite Predator Movie?
Post by: predxeno on Jan 20, 2011, 06:20:12 PM
We don't actually see him eat, tho.
Title: Re: Favourite Predator Movie?
Post by: Omegamorph on Jan 20, 2011, 06:21:42 PM
Keyes explicitly says so, though.
Also he was in the slaughterhouse for that precise reason.
Title: Re: Favourite Predator Movie?
Post by: predxeno on Jan 20, 2011, 06:58:56 PM
Yeah, I know.
Title: Re: Favourite Predator Movie?
Post by: DoomRulz on Jan 21, 2011, 02:46:28 AM
Quote from: TheMonolith on Jan 20, 2011, 02:44:45 PM
Glad to see Predator 2 is finally getting some love. It really isn't as bad as everyone says.
About the only thing I can see wrong with it is the mechanical effects are kinda poor in some scenes.

It was cheesy. Too much so in some areas. The opening shootout is one of the dumbest I've seen in a movie.
Title: Re: Favourite Predator Movie?
Post by: TheMonolith on Jan 21, 2011, 02:56:03 AM
I never said it was a masterpiece.
As a movie I call it above average.
For me personally, it is a 9/10.
I love cop movies. I love Preds. So this was a match made in heaven for me. I gobble it up like a nice bowl of chili every time it is on. And you know what? Like a bowl of chili, the cheese makes it even more tasty.
Title: Re: Favourite Predator Movie?
Post by: predxeno on Jan 21, 2011, 04:23:41 AM
Quote from: TheMonolith on Jan 21, 2011, 02:56:03 AM
I never said it was a masterpiece.
As a movie I call it above average.
For me personally, it is a 9/10.
I love cop movies. I love Preds. So this was a match made in heaven for me. I gobble it up like a nice bowl of chili every time it is on. And you know what? Like a bowl of chili, the cheese makes it even more tasty.

I think I feel the same way about AVPR. :D
Title: Re: Favourite Predator Movie?
Post by: Hive Tyrant on Jan 21, 2011, 09:45:11 AM
Quote from: DoomRulz on Jan 21, 2011, 02:46:28 AM
Quote from: TheMonolith on Jan 20, 2011, 02:44:45 PM
Glad to see Predator 2 is finally getting some love. It really isn't as bad as everyone says.
About the only thing I can see wrong with it is the mechanical effects are kinda poor in some scenes.

It was cheesy. Too much so in some areas. The opening shootout is one of the dumbest I've seen in a movie.

Dude, no, that part was great. :D
Title: Re: Favourite Predator Movie?
Post by: Omegamorph on Jan 21, 2011, 07:55:54 PM
Quote from: Hive Tyrant on Jan 21, 2011, 09:45:11 AM
Dude, no, that part was great. :D
Yes it was! as all the movie was.

Criminal Thriller + Predator = WIN.
Title: Re: Favourite Predator Movie?
Post by: AliceApocalypse on Jan 21, 2011, 08:05:16 PM
^ Predator killing NY gang members on a train...Epic Win ;D
Title: Re: Favourite Predator Movie?
Post by: Omegamorph on Jan 21, 2011, 08:06:35 PM
And then roaring gloriously with f**king Lightning?
f**k YEA.
Title: Re: Favourite Predator Movie?
Post by: DoomRulz on Jan 22, 2011, 04:05:35 AM
Quote from: Hive Tyrant on Jan 21, 2011, 09:45:11 AM
Quote from: DoomRulz on Jan 21, 2011, 02:46:28 AM
Quote from: TheMonolith on Jan 20, 2011, 02:44:45 PM
Glad to see Predator 2 is finally getting some love. It really isn't as bad as everyone says.
About the only thing I can see wrong with it is the mechanical effects are kinda poor in some scenes.

It was cheesy. Too much so in some areas. The opening shootout is one of the dumbest I've seen in a movie.

Dude, no, that part was great. :D

If you say so. I like shootouts that make sense.
Title: Re: Favourite Predator Movie?
Post by: Gilfryd on Jan 23, 2011, 04:02:12 AM
Predator
Predator 2
Predators

In that order.
Title: Re: Favourite Predator Movie?
Post by: The PredBen on Jan 23, 2011, 08:48:44 PM
For some reason, people seem to hate one of the sequels, be it Predator 2 or Predators. It usually goes like this:

I like PREDATOR and PREDATOR 2 or I like PREDATOR and PREDATORS.

I don't know why ...  ???
Title: Re: Favourite Predator Movie?
Post by: Master on Jan 23, 2011, 09:09:15 PM
Quote from: TheMonolith on Jan 21, 2011, 02:56:03 AM
I never said it was a masterpiece.
As a movie I call it above average.
For me personally, it is a 9/10.
I love cop movies. I love Preds. So this was a match made in heaven for me. I gobble it up like a nice bowl of chili every time it is on. And you know what? Like a bowl of chili, the cheese makes it even more tasty.

I love cop movies. I love Preds. I love Paxton, Busey and of course, last but definitely not least, I love Danny Glover! P2 = triple epic win! 10/10 in my book (fangasm)  ;D

Quote from: predxeno on Jan 21, 2011, 04:23:41 AM
Quote from: TheMonolith on Jan 21, 2011, 02:56:03 AM
I never said it was a masterpiece.
As a movie I call it above average.
For me personally, it is a 9/10.
I love cop movies. I love Preds. So this was a match made in heaven for me. I gobble it up like a nice bowl of chili every time it is on. And you know what? Like a bowl of chili, the cheese makes it even more tasty.

I think I feel the same way about AVPR. :D

I like you Predxeno. I`d ony shoot you in knee  ;)

Quote from: Hive Tyrant on Jan 21, 2011, 09:45:11 AM
Quote from: DoomRulz on Jan 21, 2011, 02:46:28 AM
Quote from: TheMonolith on Jan 20, 2011, 02:44:45 PM
Glad to see Predator 2 is finally getting some love. It really isn't as bad as everyone says.
About the only thing I can see wrong with it is the mechanical effects are kinda poor in some scenes.

It was cheesy. Too much so in some areas. The opening shootout is one of the dumbest I've seen in a movie.

Dude, no, that part was great. :D

Hell yeah!

Quote from: AliceApocalypse on Jan 21, 2011, 08:05:16 PM
^ Predator killing NY gang members on a train...Epic Win ;D

Epic win x2!

Quote from: OmegaZilla on Jan 21, 2011, 08:06:35 PM
And then roaring gloriously with f**king Lightning?
f**k YEA.

f**k YEA x2!

Quote from: Brett on Jan 23, 2011, 04:02:12 AM
Predator
Predator 2
Predators

In that order.

I`m hearing you man!
Title: Re: Favourite Predator Movie?
Post by: DoomRulz on Jan 26, 2011, 09:24:16 PM
Quote from: OmegaZilla on Jan 21, 2011, 08:06:35 PM
And then roaring gloriously with f**king Lightning?
f**k YEA.

Wasn't so much a roar; sounded more like a high-pitched squeal.
Title: Re: Favourite Predator Movie?
Post by: Bloodee Jacob on Jan 26, 2011, 09:27:26 PM
Predators
Predator
Predator 2
Title: Re: Favourite Predator Movie?
Post by: Master on Jan 26, 2011, 09:41:50 PM
Quote from: InfamousYautja on Jan 26, 2011, 09:27:26 PM
Predators
Predator
Predator 2
You've got to be kidding me. Now I can understand why you are infamous.
Title: Re: Favourite Predator Movie?
Post by: Bloodee Jacob on Jan 26, 2011, 09:54:33 PM
Quote from: Master on Jan 26, 2011, 09:41:50 PM
Quote from: InfamousYautja on Jan 26, 2011, 09:27:26 PM
Predators
Predator
Predator 2
You've got to be kidding me. Now I can understand why you are infamous.

It's called an opinion. Everyone has one. Some have different ones.
Title: Re: Favourite Predator Movie?
Post by: Master on Jan 26, 2011, 09:59:57 PM
True, true...










The Horror... horror... horror ;D
Title: Re: Favourite Predator Movie?
Post by: Keith on Jan 26, 2011, 10:17:42 PM
Tie, thus I can't vote: Predator and Predator 2.
Title: Re: Favourite Predator Movie?
Post by: FUZION PREDATOR on Jan 26, 2011, 10:24:07 PM
Quote from: Master on Jan 26, 2011, 09:41:50 PM
Quote from: InfamousYautja on Jan 26, 2011, 09:27:26 PM
Predators
Predator
Predator 2
You've got to be kidding me. Now I can understand why you are infamous.

Easy one ,but still funny man  :laugh:

Now lets get serious:
-Predator
-Predator 2 (very very very close to be the first )
-predators (whyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy?  :'( >:( )

Title: Re: Favourite Predator Movie?
Post by: Master on Jan 26, 2011, 10:41:12 PM
At your service ;)

For me P1 and P2 are equal. Those are the best films of my youth. I can`t and I won`t pick the better out of those two.
Title: Re: Favourite Predator Movie?
Post by: FUZION PREDATOR on Jan 26, 2011, 11:09:38 PM
Quote from: Master on Jan 26, 2011, 10:41:12 PM
At your service ;)

For me P1 and P2 are equal. Those are the best films of my youth. I can`t and I won`t pick the better out of those two.

Same for me , i just can't decid . Most of the time i just say they are equals that all.
Title: Re: Favourite Predator Movie?
Post by: Bloodee Jacob on Jan 27, 2011, 03:27:11 AM
Quote from: Master on Jan 26, 2011, 10:41:12 PM
At your service ;)

For me P1 and P2 are equal. Those are the best films of my youth. I can`t and I won`t pick the better out of those two.

I liked P2 believe me but I don't like it as well as Predators or Predator. I don't know every reason but I think one of them is that I didn't like the Predator as well as some other ones. Maybe because City Hunter seemed a little weak well not weak but weaker then a Pred should be. I mean he was occasionally owned and killed by a random LA police officer with his own weapon.
Title: Re: Favourite Predator Movie?
Post by: samoht on Jan 27, 2011, 04:32:54 AM
1. Predator 

2. Predators and Predator2 are about equal.
Title: Re: Favourite Predator Movie?
Post by: Omegamorph on Jan 27, 2011, 10:24:56 AM
Predator 2 - 10/10
Predator - 10/10
Predators - 8/10

Come on... Come on! Do it! Do it! Come on. Come on! Kill me! I'm here! Kill me!
Title: Re: Favourite Predator Movie?
Post by: Vulhala on Jan 27, 2011, 10:27:40 AM
Predator 10/10

Predators 8/10

Predator 2 5/10
Title: Re: Favourite Predator Movie?
Post by: FUZION PREDATOR on Jan 27, 2011, 11:15:34 AM
Quote from: InfamousYautja on Jan 27, 2011, 03:27:11 AM
Quote from: Master on Jan 26, 2011, 10:41:12 PM
At your service ;)

For me P1 and P2 are equal. Those are the best films of my youth. I can`t and I won`t pick the better out of those two.

I liked P2 believe me but I don't like it as well as Predators or Predator. I don't know every reason but I think one of them is that I didn't like the Predator as well as some other ones. Maybe because City Hunter seemed a little weak well not weak but weaker then a Pred should be. I mean he was occasionally owned and killed by a random LA police officer with his own weapon.

In the movie,Harrigan is the most violent, aggressive, effective cops of LA which is almost in civil war (after Danny boy get killed ,you can hear the computer recording most of Harrigans stats)
This guy IS badass, not a old retired cops. + i would add that city hunter is far to be weak, he is maybe the most "resilient/ die hard"  pred (with Anytime who took 2 40mm nade s+ several quintal log on the head without dying)

He is not like some preds, who pass away after 2 katana slash ( ::)) or some other preds who get almost KO in a face to face fight , before being finished like a b*tch while on their knees  ::)

EDIT i forgot to give notes on my Pred movie list then:
Predator 2 10/10
Predator 10/10
Predators 4/10
Title: Re: Favourite Predator Movie?
Post by: Valaquen on Jan 27, 2011, 11:56:10 AM
Predator: 10/10
Predator 2: 7.5/10
Predators: 7.5/10
Title: Re: Favourite Predator Movie?
Post by: Bloodee Jacob on Jan 27, 2011, 09:34:36 PM
Quote from: FUZION PREDATOR on Jan 27, 2011, 11:15:34 AM
Quote from: InfamousYautja on Jan 27, 2011, 03:27:11 AM
Quote from: Master on Jan 26, 2011, 10:41:12 PM
At your service ;)

For me P1 and P2 are equal. Those are the best films of my youth. I can`t and I won`t pick the better out of those two.

I liked P2 believe me but I don't like it as well as Predators or Predator. I don't know every reason but I think one of them is that I didn't like the Predator as well as some other ones. Maybe because City Hunter seemed a little weak well not weak but weaker then a Pred should be. I mean he was occasionally owned and killed by a random LA police officer with his own weapon.

In the movie,Harrigan is the most violent, aggressive, effective cops of LA which is almost in civil war (after Danny boy get killed ,you can hear the computer recording most of Harrigans stats)
This guy IS badass, not a old retired cops. + i would add that city hunter is far to be weak, he is maybe the most "resilient/ die hard"  pred (with Anytime who took 2 40mm nade s+ several quintal log on the head without dying)

He is not like some preds, who pass away after 2 katana slash ( ::)) or some other preds who get almost KO in a face to face fight , before being finished like a b*tch while on their knees  ::)

EDIT i forgot to give notes on my Pred movie list then:
Predator 2 10/10
Predator 10/10
Predators 4/10

Somewhere I heard Hanzo severed Falconer's spine in the slash that killed him. And Preds are wickedly strong so that might happen with the face to face KO thing. You don't know how hard he was hit in the final fight.
Title: Re: Favourite Predator Movie?
Post by: FUZION PREDATOR on Jan 27, 2011, 11:16:35 PM
Quote from: InfamousYautja on Jan 27, 2011, 09:34:36 PM
Somewhere I heard Hanzo severed Falconer's spine in the slash that killed him. And Preds are wickedly strong so that might happen with the face to face KO thing. You don't know how hard he was hit in the final fight.

Of course we can always (and anytime) find an explanation about Facloner's failure. Maybe the slash hit his spine or maybe he is just not dead at all.
Spoiler
Or maybe he was just blind by the sun (at night  :D )
[close]

What i am talking about is the fact you found city hunter pretty weak, whereas he stand against several shotguns rounds (which should have smashed all his internal organs) + 2 or 3 desert eagle rounds (maybe 357 mag) and at last he lost his forearm.

Despite that, City hunter still able to fight Harrigan (which you wrongly descibed as a random LA cop, while he is the most violent and effective cop of a city almost in war) in a pretty dominating way (despite his wounds)
City Hunter is definitly not a weak pred, he is a god ( ::) ;D) next to predators puss*es (except Tracker, no pred can survive such explosion)

EDIT: About the KO in face to face fight. I was talking about Mr Black vs Royce final battle (not classic vs Black), and the fact that Royce manage to KO Black and finish him like a b*tch while on his knee.

Surely i don't know how hard Mr Black was hit, BUT i know that a  40mm nade (exploding at less than 1m away) hit far FAR harder,despite that Anytime manage to stand against 2 of those (even if i have to admit that one of the two nades throw at him was weakened  ,because Dutch use a part of the explosive powder in order to make a flashbang, that he will use latter in the tunnel )
Title: Re: Favourite Predator Movie?
Post by: ScottishXeno on Mar 06, 2011, 12:49:47 AM
Liked Predator 2 better, just has a certain feel to it.
I like Predator aswell though.
Title: Re: Favourite Predator Movie?
Post by: Peakius Baragonius on Mar 06, 2011, 02:23:13 AM
I saw Predator for the first time last weekend, and it was awesome! A very well done, satisfying film! Also, I hadn't really liked the plasma cannon as much up until now, but after seeing it I like it a lot more!

I'm having a hard time choosing between Predator and Predator 2, because they're both so great -- a perfect duology, just like Alien and Aliens. Overall, I think Predator is the better film, but I have a more personal connection with Predator 2, it being the first film in either series that I saw all the way through and having only recently learned about it, being too young to see any of them unedited (it was on the FX Channel, around 2004 or 2005, and it aired after Alien both times), so I'll list that one as my favorite. Thus, they're both the "best"!
Title: Re: Favourite Predator Movie?
Post by: RDdaNINJA on Mar 08, 2011, 12:14:23 AM
I always liked Predator 2 the best.
Title: Re: Favourite Predator Movie?
Post by: Peakius Baragonius on Mar 08, 2011, 01:09:17 AM
Quote from: FUZION PREDATOR on Jan 27, 2011, 11:16:35 PM
Quote from: InfamousYautja on Jan 27, 2011, 09:34:36 PM
Somewhere I heard Hanzo severed Falconer's spine in the slash that killed him. And Preds are wickedly strong so that might happen with the face to face KO thing. You don't know how hard he was hit in the final fight.

Of course we can always (and anytime) find an explanation about Facloner's failure. Maybe the slash hit his spine or maybe he is just not dead at all.
Spoiler
Or maybe he was just blind by the sun (at night  :D )
[close]

What i am talking about is the fact you found city hunter pretty weak, whereas he stand against several shotguns rounds (which should have smashed all his internal organs) + 2 or 3 desert eagle rounds (maybe 357 mag) and at last he lost his forearm.

Despite that, City hunter still able to fight Harrigan (which you wrongly descibed as a random LA cop, while he is the most violent and effective cop of a city almost in war) in a pretty dominating way (despite his wounds)
City Hunter is definitly not a weak pred, he is a god ( ::) ;D) next to predators puss*es (except Tracker, no pred can survive such explosion)

EDIT: About the KO in face to face fight. I was talking about Mr Black vs Royce final battle (not classic vs Black), and the fact that Royce manage to KO Black and finish him like a b*tch while on his knee.

Surely i don't know how hard Mr Black was hit, BUT i know that a  40mm nade (exploding at less than 1m away) hit far FAR harder,despite that Anytime manage to stand against 2 of those (even if i have to admit that one of the two nades throw at him was weakened  ,because Dutch use a part of the explosive powder in order to make a flashbang, that he will use latter in the tunnel )

^This. (...hello? Subject, complete sentence, are you there? Anyone? Hello!?  ;))

And he was sprayed by liquid nitrogen, before and after being wounded!
Title: Re: Favourite Predator Movie?
Post by: RakaiThwei on Mar 08, 2011, 03:15:47 AM
Predator and Predator 2.

To me, those will always be the best of the series.

-Rakai'Thwei
Title: Re: Favourite Predator Movie?
Post by: PredatorGFX on Mar 08, 2011, 04:09:29 PM
Predator always will have a special place in my heart ;)
Title: Re: Favourite Predator Movie?
Post by: IrateMulletMan on Mar 13, 2011, 02:48:39 AM
Its a tie between Predator and Predator 2. Predator 2 is what got me into the series way back in the day but Predator seems more origanal and has that hunter feel to it. But Predator 2 Pussy Face pred is WAY more badass he takes a beating only he could survive! The Beserker pred got killed like a bitch on his knee's P1 blew himself up Falconer died OK nobody can survive 2 katana slashes but Pussy Face killed Gary Bussey and lost a god damn arm and still fought! Plus hes got the coolest design of all preds. Another reason is Bill Paxton is in Predator 2 hes my 4th faveorite actor and played a great role in P2 I think him and Harrigan should have switched spots and Lambart kills the pred way more epic ending IMO. So overall the two have there flaws that even each other out i'd rate them bot at 9.75/10 for being kick ass action films.
Title: Re: Favourite Predator Movie?
Post by: A Harmless Goat on Mar 14, 2011, 12:41:03 AM
I like the first 2 movies equally, and I like Predators just a little bit less then those.
Title: Re: Favourite Predator Movie?
Post by: Nightmare Asylum on Mar 30, 2011, 12:14:16 AM
Predator 10/10
Predator 2 7.5/10
Predators 8/10
Title: Re: Favourite Predator Movie?
Post by: Intrepid-Traveler on Mar 31, 2011, 02:34:15 PM
Predator has to be the best for me out of them. It's just so tribal and unhindered. Classic lines, classic actors, and a little of that 80's cheese to give it that "cult" status. It's the original and best example of a Predator movie. Ultimate commandos against an ultimate predator in an arid jungle.

As for P2 and Predators it's hard to say. Predator 2 starts solid and ends solid but the whole middle of the film (up until the subway/meat factory) is just horrible filler of an 80's inspired look at the gangta' future. Never been a Glover fan and the only reason the movie is even worth watching in its own right is because of the predator and end fight scene.

Predators is quite good as  whole, but incorporates some weird things and some mismatch actors. The predator v predator fight was great but short lived and the plot was just kinda "okay go". I'd rate Predator 2 as having a better showing of predator but predators is better well-rounded as a whole.
Title: Re: Favourite Predator Movie?
Post by: StrangeShape on Apr 16, 2011, 03:34:11 AM
The first one is truly exceptional, and one of few action movies that have such a great buildup of the Predator character and tension and successful character development. Its especially amazing considering its a movie made in 1987 - a year where , for example, The Running Man was made which was so 80s  that your jeans are ripping apart on your knees and your hair dyes blond

P2 on the other hand doesnt avoid the cheesiness of its time at all, but its still enjoyable and entertaining.

Predators I dont like at all, feels like a made for TV movie and its just unengaging
Title: Re: Favourite Predator Movie?
Post by: AliceApocalypse on Apr 19, 2011, 05:51:33 PM
Quote from: StrangeShape on Apr 16, 2011, 03:34:11 AM
The first one is truly exceptional, and one of few action movies that have such a great buildup of the Predator character and tension and successful character development. Its especially amazing considering its a movie made in 1987 - a year where , for example, The Running Man was made which was so 80s  that your jeans are ripping apart on your knees and your hair dyes blond

P2 on the other hand doesnt avoid the cheesiness of its time at all, but its still enjoyable and entertaining.

Predators I dont like at all, feels like a made for TV movie and its just unengaging

I agree with you completely, and have come to theorize that Predator and Predators were both written for two different generations of fans.  Maybe this explains my weariness of Predators, it wasn't written for my generation  :-[
Title: Re: Favourite Predator Movie?
Post by: Peakius Baragonius on Apr 19, 2011, 11:08:39 PM
Quote from: AliceApocalypse on Apr 19, 2011, 05:51:33 PM
Quote from: StrangeShape on Apr 16, 2011, 03:34:11 AM
The first one is truly exceptional, and one of few action movies that have such a great buildup of the Predator character and tension and successful character development. Its especially amazing considering its a movie made in 1987 - a year where , for example, The Running Man was made which was so 80s  that your jeans are ripping apart on your knees and your hair dyes blond

P2 on the other hand doesnt avoid the cheesiness of its time at all, but its still enjoyable and entertaining.

Predators I dont like at all, feels like a made for TV movie and its just unengaging

I agree with you completely, and have come to theorize that Predator and Predators were both written for two different generations of fans.  Maybe this explains my weariness of Predators, it wasn't written for my generation  :-[

It certainly wasn't written for the current generation....
Title: Re: Favourite Predator Movie?
Post by: severen76 on Apr 19, 2011, 11:14:28 PM
Predator - 10/10
Predator 2 - 10/10
Predators - Ehhh
Title: Re: Favourite Predator Movie?
Post by: Billiken on Apr 20, 2011, 09:02:08 AM
Agree 100% with u Severen. I mean predators wasn't boring I just don't think it was good enough to be part of the series. Thats why I have no problem with people calling the sequel Predators 2 becasue then it can be a stand alone series.
Title: Re: Favourite Predator Movie?
Post by: georgeromero on Apr 21, 2011, 12:02:37 PM
My favourite is the one featuring City Hunter, what do you call it? Predator 2? Yes, this is my favourite. It features better predator design, better environment, better weapons and Detective Harrigan.
Title: Re: Favourite Predator Movie?
Post by: xeno killer on May 03, 2011, 10:18:27 AM
My Favourite is Pred 1 but Pred 2 has some good moments and i also like Danny Glover!!
Title: Re: Favourite Predator Movie?
Post by: Reaper117 on May 10, 2011, 07:57:29 PM
Yea Predator 1 and 2 were both amazing movies but considering the time spand difference the new virsion was a decent addition to the series, and people may say its awful but it was pretty entertaining for me
Title: Re: Favourite Predator Movie?
Post by: Master on May 18, 2011, 10:02:20 PM
Quote from: Billiken on Apr 20, 2011, 09:02:08 AM
Agree 100% with u Severen. I mean predators wasn't boring I just don't think it was good enough to be part of the series. Thats why I have no problem with people calling the sequel Predators 2 becasue then it can be a stand alone series.

Agreed completly. I want direct sequel of Ps to be called Predators 2.

Quote from: AliceApocalypse on Apr 19, 2011, 05:51:33 PM

I agree with you completely, and have come to theorize that Predator and Predators were both written for two different generations of fans. Maybe this explains my weariness of Predators, it wasn't written for my generation  :-[

Well put.

Quote from: Reaper117 on May 10, 2011, 07:57:29 PM
Yea Predator 1 and 2 were both amazing movies but considering the time spand difference the new virsion was a decent addition to the series, and people may say its awful but it was pretty entertaining for me

It`s not that Ps is awful. It`s medicore. Too much was taken from P1 and it looks bad cause P1 have it much better handled. And the type of braindamaged badassery presented by Royce is not for me (though I like how Brody played him).
Title: Re: Favourite Predator Movie?
Post by: Terx2 on May 21, 2011, 11:42:31 AM
Predator is the best in my view. It has Arnie, Nice Jungle enviroments, Like the machine gun ;D and that special forces love destroying trees :laugh:.

Predator 2 is equally good. It has Danny Glover, Nice city landscapes, Liked the Predator ship and that goverment agents really are a bunch of pencil pushers :laugh:.

Predators was entertaining but it had to much references to Predator and no references to Predator 2. It could have been better if they had more time and money.
Title: Re: Favourite Predator Movie?
Post by: SOC on Jun 03, 2011, 05:14:22 PM
Predator:  10/10  My favorite movie, and possibly the best action movie, of all time.  They didn't mess around with too much backstory except what naturally came up, they didn't mess around with a billion side plots, it was just awesome.  For a mid-80's movie the effects still stand up very well, and Anytime remains the best Predator visualization on-screen in my opinion.

Predator 2:  9/10  Suprisingly well done.  The pacing is tight, you never feel like the movie drags.  Even when they're doing scenes involving no action, like in the forensics office analyzing the dart, they get to the point without messing around and move on.  My only issue is that the Predator design seemed to suffer a bit with the changes to the face.  It didn't look as organic and "real" as Anytime's.  The new armor and weapons were great additions though.

Predators:  7/10  I actually dug it.  Shoot me  ;D  There were blatant Predator rip-offs, like Dmitri and the minigun.  There were design problems, like the BSP's face, that I didn't care for.  And while Nolan was weird, I guess you would go nuts isolated on a planet where everything tries to kill you.  But I still enjoyed the hell out of it.
Title: Re: Favourite Predator Movie?
Post by: King Rathalos on Jun 23, 2011, 08:46:02 PM
It's between Predator and Predators for me.
Title: Re: Favourite Predator Movie?
Post by: ¿xenoyuatja? on Jul 09, 2011, 01:11:39 AM
1.predator 2.predators 3.predator2  although all movies entertain me all the same
Title: Re: Favourite Predator Movie?
Post by: Signore Predatore on Jul 12, 2011, 06:59:25 AM
I have to choose Predator 2. When the guy says to the predator "You are on ugly mother, but right before he says F'er the predator says it. That made me laugh hard.
Title: Re: Favourite Predator Movie?
Post by: FUZION PREDATOR on Jul 19, 2011, 10:37:16 AM
-Predator    10/10  8)
-Predator2   10/10  8)
-Predators    3/10    :'( >:(
Title: Re: Favourite Predator Movie?
Post by: Stans on Aug 06, 2011, 05:09:38 AM
Fuk yeah predator is my favorite

I like movies in the same order they have been released

predator....10
predator2...8
predators....7
Title: Re: Favourite Predator Movie?
Post by: x2SMONEY on Aug 26, 2011, 11:36:38 PM
Im gonna get burned for this but Predators is my favorite
Title: Re: Favourite Predator Movie?
Post by: Snowdog on Aug 26, 2011, 11:40:12 PM
Quote from: x2SMONEY on Aug 26, 2011, 11:36:38 PM
Im gonna get burned for this but Predators is my favorite

Spoiler
(https://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Ffarm1.static.flickr.com%2F173%2F426028415_ed807c1981.jpg&hash=3e0594dc224c4ec238f899817cd73bba06b339bc)
Spoiler
JK i had a hard time deciding :P Between 1 and 2 mostly, but Predators is also really awesome
[close]
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Title: Re: Favourite Predator Movie?
Post by: x2SMONEY on Aug 26, 2011, 11:42:18 PM
Quote from: Snowdog on Aug 26, 2011, 11:40:12 PM
Quote from: x2SMONEY on Aug 26, 2011, 11:36:38 PM
Im gonna get burned for this but Predators is my favorite

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JK i had a hard time deciding :P Between 1 and 2 mostly, but Predators is also really awesome
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Yep...I expected that  :laugh:
Title: Re: Favourite Predator Movie?
Post by: samoht on Aug 27, 2011, 01:08:08 AM
Predator 1. Forever and always....unless they bring out something better.
Title: Re: Favourite Predator Movie?
Post by: Gosutoraida on Sep 21, 2011, 07:50:53 PM
Predator 1, for sure, is the best of the entire franchise, of course, your opinion may differ. Predator 2 still is good though, Predators was good too, but the original kicks ass. I didn't like the idea though that Predators kind of ignored the events of Predator 2.
Title: Re: Favourite Predator Movie?
Post by: Vecrotus on Sep 21, 2011, 09:04:06 PM
As much as I like Predator 2 and Predators, I always loved Predator. Especially since Arnie's in it.
Title: Re: Favourite Predator Movie?
Post by: Snowdog on Sep 21, 2011, 09:13:02 PM
Quote from: Vecrotus on Sep 21, 2011, 09:04:06 PM
As much as I like Predator 2 and Predators, I always loved Predator. Especially since Arnie's in it.

yeah but i still have a really hard time deciding wich one i love more. Predator 1 or 2.
2 had my favorite predator in it (the elder) also had some great iconic moments. But yeah 1 was perfect in almost every sense. Can i choose both ? :P
Title: Re: Favourite Predator Movie?
Post by: Vecrotus on Sep 21, 2011, 09:17:49 PM
If we could, I would have chosen both Predator and Predator 2.
Title: Re: Favourite Predator Movie?
Post by: Gosutoraida on Sep 24, 2011, 08:37:59 PM
If Fox made a predator movie featuring all the Lost Predators, then that may be one of the best films ever made if corrected in my vision.
Title: Re: Favourite Predator Movie?
Post by: Alien Jockey on Dec 25, 2011, 03:16:26 AM
Predator. Predators was a great sequel and much better than predator 2. Predator 2 should always be the worst.

Predator
Predators
Predator 2
Title: Re: Favourite Predator Movie?
Post by: Ite on Dec 25, 2011, 05:52:49 PM
Predator 1.
Title: Re: Favourite Predator Movie?
Post by: AlexVelez on Dec 27, 2011, 08:33:00 AM
P2

I loved the atmosphere. I also feel like it has more replay value then the other two films.
Title: Re: Favourite Predator Movie?
Post by: Lt. Mike Harrigan on Dec 27, 2011, 10:31:05 AM
Has to be the original, although I can just as easily enjoy the sequel at any time.

Predator - 10/10
Predator 2 - 8/10
Predators - 6/10
Title: Re: Favourite Predator Movie?
Post by: The_Silencer on Dec 27, 2011, 05:01:41 PM
My preferred one is P1, of course. And I would not mind a remastered version with modern VFX into it ( mostly for the tri-laser beams ). --> 9/10

P2 was also cool, but I think the potential of one or more Preddies in a big city is huge and should be considered for further movies in the future as well. --> 7/10

Predators 2011.. --> 6,85/10
Title: Re: Favourite Predator Movie?
Post by: mrdecepticonleader on Jan 02, 2012, 05:20:44 PM
Predator is my favourite and is probably my favourite one out of the franchise. I like the two sequels about the same. 
Title: Re: Favourite Predator Movie?
Post by: Edvin on Jan 04, 2012, 10:47:16 PM
Quote from: x2SMONEY on Aug 26, 2011, 11:36:38 PM
Im gonna get burned for this but Predators is my favorite
naw brah, i think all the predator movies are the best. its not my favourite, but it is still great.
Title: Re: Favourite Predator Movie?
Post by: cykninja on Jan 14, 2012, 03:17:42 AM
Yeah not surprising it's P1 by far. It just had it all and any that's come after it has so little compared. Even today it stands up well against other action/monster movies.
Title: Re: Favourite Predator Movie?
Post by: The Thing from Another World on Feb 04, 2012, 07:04:53 AM
Has to be p1 for me just a perfect sci-fi action flick
Title: Re: Favourite Predator Movie?
Post by: Pred-man201 on Feb 15, 2012, 05:50:26 AM
Predator 1 for me
Title: Re: Favourite Predator Movie?
Post by: Don PapI on Mar 25, 2012, 06:20:54 AM
For me is PREDATORS i liek it because it brings the pred to a new generation, and it does give the right path to the saga and also the predators are badass....love the classic predator recreation and other things
Title: Re: Favourite Predator Movie?
Post by: HappyAlien on Apr 03, 2012, 09:14:18 AM
The first by a mile! But i think Predators may edge out Predator 2 not sure will have to watch both again soon.
Title: Re: Favourite Predator Movie?
Post by: XenomorphH2S on Jun 26, 2012, 04:27:16 AM
I'm well aware I may be one of the few but "Predators" is my favorite out of the three films. I enjoyed the first...the second not so much...but the way the third was just full out action from beginning to end really held my attention the whole time. Added to the mystery of who these people were, why were they there, and where exactly are they...really had my imagination going. I just thought it was a well thought out and well put together film.
Title: Re: Favourite Predator Movie?
Post by: DoomRulz on Jun 26, 2012, 03:59:50 PM
All the more power to you, but I think what you see as mystery, I would call lousy characterization. We didn't know much about the humans because they didn't have much to say, or if they did, it wasn't really meaningful.
Title: Re: Favourite Predator Movie?
Post by: Vecrotus on Aug 06, 2012, 01:25:09 PM
In my opinion, Predator is best of the three. As for Predator 2 and Predators, I'm quite undecided.
Title: Re: Favourite Predator Movie?
Post by: Rich Green Acid Blood on Aug 09, 2012, 05:53:11 PM
Predator 1. However, the Pred in AVP:R looked the coolest.
Title: Re: Favourite Predator Movie?
Post by: aliens13 on Aug 10, 2012, 01:10:55 AM
1-Predator
2-Predators
3-Predator 2
Title: Re: Favourite Predator Movie?
Post by: Vecrotus on Aug 10, 2012, 11:38:31 AM
Quote from: Rich Green Acid Blood on Aug 09, 2012, 05:53:11 PM
Predator 1. However, the Pred in AVP:R looked the coolest.

In my opinion, both Predator and Predator 2 had the better Predator designs, but Wolf from AvPR was pretty cool as well.
Title: Re: Favourite Predator Movie?
Post by: Hubbs on Aug 14, 2012, 12:57:59 PM
Original is by far the best, but 2 is damn good also.
Title: Re: Favourite Predator Movie?
Post by: spinksy on Aug 18, 2012, 12:10:12 AM
Has to be the original, although I can honestly say I love predator 2 and predators nearly as much!
Title: Re: Favourite Predator Movie?
Post by: DoomRulz on Aug 20, 2012, 02:27:13 PM
Predators for me, is the Alien: Resurrection of the Predator franchise. There's nothing I like about it and it has effectively run the series into the ground.
Title: Re: Favourite Predator Movie?
Post by: Vecrotus on Aug 20, 2012, 02:40:17 PM
I liked Predators but not as much as I liked the older films. I didn't like the tone of Predators. It was too sombre and lacked humour. It wasn't as fun to watch as Predator or Predator 2.
Title: Re: Favourite Predator Movie?
Post by: VicerExciser206 on Aug 24, 2012, 05:50:44 AM
I'm going to be completely honest here and say I really like all three Predator movies damn near equally. The first one would have to be the best by a small amount though. The Predator in AVP:R was the most badass though.
Title: Re: Favourite Predator Movie?
Post by: The Collector on Sep 28, 2012, 09:38:53 PM
Predators was a good movie, its probably my favorite atm.
Title: Re: Favourite Predator Movie?
Post by: circle on Apr 16, 2013, 10:13:35 AM
I'll probably be pissing off 99% of the community here but

I always kinda thought that fan-dom for the predator franchise was mostly for the predators itself(amazing costume, effects) and not much story/characterization. Dutch was a big f*king cliché(please don't kill me). His character is like an awkward john rambo :-\

P1: Damn awesome costume design and effects especially for its time, but damn cartoonish characters
P2: Same awesome predator design, characters not as cartoonish, but overall story is wtf.jpg
Ps: Not much improvement in design, effects are better(it should be), same shallow story

I voted for Ps.
Who watches predator movies for the story, anyway?  :-\ Me, I just like the damn fine idea of "Predator".
Well that's me, anyway.
Title: Re: Favourite Predator Movie?
Post by: enypsrozar on Apr 28, 2013, 10:13:34 AM
Gee that's easy! The first one.

End of story.
Title: Re: Favourite Predator Movie?
Post by: StrangeShape on May 15, 2013, 04:30:44 AM
Quote from: circle on Apr 16, 2013, 10:13:35 AM
I'll probably be pissing off 99% of the community here but

I always kinda thought that fan-dom for the predator franchise was mostly for the predators itself(amazing costume, effects) and not much story/characterization. Dutch was a big f*king cliché(please don't kill me). His character is like an awkward john rambo :-\

P1: Damn awesome costume design and effects especially for its time, but damn cartoonish characters
P2: Same awesome predator design, characters not as cartoonish, but overall story is wtf.jpg
Ps: Not much improvement in design, effects are better(it should be), same shallow story

I voted for Ps.
Who watches predator movies for the story, anyway?  :-\ Me, I just like the damn fine idea of "Predator".
Well that's me, anyway.

Im speaking for myself but what grabbed me the first time I saw Predator was masterfully done tension, almost as in Alien perhaps where you dont really know much and you dont see anything untill the very end. It was that great tension builder and suspense that shocked me how good the movie was. I sure wasnt expecting that when I rented it for the first time. I thought its gonna be another fun but typical Arnold shooter
Title: Re: Favourite Predator Movie?
Post by: AliceApocalypse on May 15, 2013, 05:13:20 PM
Quote from: StrangeShape on May 15, 2013, 04:30:44 AM
Im speaking for myself but what grabbed me the first time I saw Predator was masterfully done tension, almost as in Alien perhaps where you dont really know much and you dont see anything untill the very end. It was that great tension builder and suspense that shocked me how good the movie was. I sure wasnt expecting that when I rented it for the first time. I thought its gonna be another fun but typical Arnold shooter

Absolutely.  The suspension was great in original, although I am on the fence about which one I like better P1 or P2. 
Title: Re: Favourite Predator Movie?
Post by: Master on May 15, 2013, 09:35:15 PM
P1 or P2. Which one exactly? It depends on a day, mood etc. I really like both of them.

Ps is medicore IMO.
Title: Re: Favourite Predator Movie?
Post by: Shinobi Wan Kenobi on May 15, 2013, 10:00:45 PM
Definitley P1, but P2  just brings so much more awesome stuff to the table.As you can tell from my sig, the King Willy scene is an epic piece of cinema that you just can't forget.
Title: Re: Favourite Predator Movie?
Post by: Master on May 15, 2013, 10:10:16 PM
Yeah, It has same impact for me like Cyrus`s scene from The Warriors.
Title: Re: Favourite Predator Movie?
Post by: szkoki on May 16, 2013, 10:24:27 PM
well umm if we are talking about the suspension is really important in a horror movie then basicly every sequel is doomed comparing to the original movie no matter how good it is

Predator is a great movie with a really original creature
Predator 2 is ummm you know u watch it if its on air
Predators is a hughe budget tribute to the original wich is okay but nothing special here


not starting a fight here but alien,aliens,alien3 kept me there with the suspension until the very end of Ripley's journey, maybe because we got a main character who were well treated by all of the directors (at least she), basicly it was a Ripley vs. Alien story where Ripley was a real life like person (and A:R is kinda the 9th season of Scrubs , pretty uncalled and unnecessary ) and u can imagine yourself in her boots....there is nothing like this in the predator saga (and not because Arnold was the biggest guy i ever saw)
Title: Re: Favourite Predator Movie?
Post by: szkoki on Jun 05, 2013, 11:01:50 AM
Predator was on air on a channel here just watched and i was wondering when the most badass soldiers was about to get killed one by one by the creature(for sure they knew it they wont come back not even Dillon or Billy or the other black guy) why on earth any of these heroic wanna be badass character havent tried to pop up a few grenade when  the predator came close to them? if u get killed anyway why not take that thing with you? stupidest soldiers ever
Title: Re: Favourite Predator Movie?
Post by: Master on Jun 05, 2013, 11:40:03 AM
And who should have sacrificed? Would you sacrifice insted of trying to survive? Don`t think so. You would fight to the very end for even one more breath, like nearly every living creature do.
Title: Re: Favourite Predator Movie?
Post by: DoomRulz on Jun 06, 2013, 02:27:57 AM
Quote from: szkoki on Jun 05, 2013, 11:01:50 AM
Predator was on air on a channel here just watched and i was wondering when the most badass soldiers was about to get killed one by one by the creature(for sure they knew it they wont come back not even Dillon or Billy or the other black guy) why on earth any of these heroic wanna be badass character havent tried to pop up a few grenade when  the predator came close to them? if u get killed anyway why not take that thing with you? stupidest soldiers ever

They aren't martyrs, they're soldiers.
Title: Re: Favourite Predator Movie?
Post by: szkoki on Jun 09, 2013, 11:54:36 AM
yeah then explain me Billy and his knife...that was the point when i started to say NO NO NO NO NO if u go there to hold that thing up then grab a friggin grenade to save the others u proud weirdo  shaman
Title: Re: Favourite Predator Movie?
Post by: Master on Jun 09, 2013, 11:58:52 AM
Are you serious? He prepared himself to the fight. He loose. He`s totally not the type of suiscidal bomber.
Title: Re: Favourite Predator Movie?
Post by: DoomRulz on Jun 10, 2013, 03:09:08 AM
Billy was nuts to begin with. I'm not sure he fully thought out his next move before Anytime took him out.
Title: Re: Favourite Predator Movie?
Post by: szkoki on Jun 10, 2013, 12:08:11 PM
Quote from: Master on Jun 09, 2013, 11:58:52 AM
Are you serious? He prepared himself to the fight. He loose. He`s totally not the type of suiscidal bomber.

with a knife?...prepared himself to fight? really...not following orders, he is a lunatic what he is even doing in the forces and never made such lunatic move before? then i wonder how was this squad even alive for this missin with members like Billy

im not taking this seriously guys, dont worry, this movie has dumb characters and i accept it but funny how some people judge movies and characters nowdays even  their classics have mistakes and not small mistakes
Title: Re: Favourite Predator Movie?
Post by: Master on Jun 10, 2013, 12:15:31 PM
My claim is Billy`s not suiscidal bomber. Nuts? Definatelly. Dumbass? Most likely? Great tracker? Certainly. But no suiscidal bomber.
Title: Re: Favourite Predator Movie?
Post by: Darwinsgirl on Jun 10, 2013, 09:20:32 PM

How can this film not be the favorite?.... unknown ALIEN monster...hunting humans...Aaarnold 1st and foremost.

And a great supporting cast....like Billy...Mac....Blain...Hawkins...Poncho

The Predator himself recognizes the formidable prowess of Arnold by stripping off his weapons to fight him...er hand to hand.

5 stars  * * * * *
Title: Re: Favourite Predator Movie?
Post by: FiorinaFury161 on Jun 11, 2013, 01:10:45 AM
^ YES!

I honestly like Predator 2 but not as much as the original. Danny Glover beat the Predator then had Mel Gibson save his ass (literally) in Lethal Weapon 2 while fighting off co-workers giving him a condom tree in tribute to his daughter's condom commercial! Danny is an actor that doesn't get the recognition he deserves...
Title: Re: Favourite Predator Movie?
Post by: DoomRulz on Jun 11, 2013, 08:07:07 PM
Quote from: szkoki on Jun 10, 2013, 12:08:11 PM
Quote from: Master on Jun 09, 2013, 11:58:52 AM
Are you serious? He prepared himself to the fight. He loose. He`s totally not the type of suiscidal bomber.

with a knife?...prepared himself to fight? really...not following orders, he is a lunatic what he is even doing in the forces and never made such lunatic move before? then i wonder how was this squad even alive for this missin with members like Billy

I'm no psychiatrist, but I have a feeling that there quite a few whack jobs in the military to begin with even before they potentially suffer from PTSD.
Title: Re: Favourite Predator Movie?
Post by: Bloodee Jacob on Jul 28, 2013, 06:42:29 PM
Had to go with the first one. The 2nd was just "meh" all the way through to me and as time goes on, Predators just gets worse and worse. Plus Arnold Schwarzenegger is my favorite action hero!
Title: Re: Favourite Predator Movie?
Post by: spinksy on Jul 29, 2013, 03:50:52 PM
Predator one will always be my favorite but got ALOT of love for the second film.

Predator 2 = Stan Winstons masterpieces, good acting, some good stars, Kevin Peter Hall, Lost hunters, gary bussey(lol) just an all round classic and close to my heart since I remember watching it with my dad when I was young! (and he taped it on VHS for me lol)
Title: Re: Favourite Predator Movie?
Post by: ImperialElite on Aug 13, 2013, 08:20:14 PM
Predator 2 is my favourite.

I just really like and admire the style of that film. Maybe it's because I grew up with watching Danny Glover in the Lethal Weapon films. But from the immediate action paced intro, to the Predator spying and eavesdropping into the subway train, cutting out the light source as various flashes of light create the intense mood when the Predator goes killing. Followed by Harrigan seeing the Predator rip out the spine of his newly elected cop as a chase begins. And then coming near the end of the film when the Predators space-craft is shown from inside (giving rise to the first time we see the Alien skull which marked the beginning ideas of eventually an AVP film). I feel this film had such a lot more to play (as of course sequels should).

Despite it had gotten a lot of criticism/negative reviews; I find Predator 2 to be a really awesome action/alien flick!
Title: Re: Favourite Predator Movie?
Post by: TheMonolith on Aug 14, 2013, 02:05:30 AM
Predator 2 is actually a pretty clever take on the cop/detective genre and pays tribute to a variety of films in that genre, in particular the Dirty Harry series. The only real weak link in the film is Keyes and his team, who could easily be removed from the film with little to no affect on Glover, providing a more focused story. I hesitate to call 2 a great film, but it is a pretty good one, and I can honestly say it deserves a better reception.
Title: Re: Favourite Predator Movie?
Post by: Hudson on Aug 14, 2013, 05:16:27 AM
I agree that it's better than it's reputation but there are definitely more weak links than just Keyes.
Title: Re: Favourite Predator Movie?
Post by: DoomRulz on Aug 14, 2013, 11:48:41 AM
The action was too over the top which gave it a very cheesy feel. The action in the first Predator was plentiful but for some reason, to me at least, it didn't seem quite as nuts as Predator 2's. I think Predator also had far better pacing.
Title: Re: Favourite Predator Movie?
Post by: Hudson on Aug 14, 2013, 06:37:45 PM
Quote from: DoomRulz on Aug 14, 2013, 11:48:41 AM
The action was too over the top which gave it a very cheesy feel. The action in the first Predator was plentiful but for some reason, to me at least, it didn't seem quite as nuts as Predator 2's. I think Predator also had far better pacing.

I'm not sure about the action being over the top, but one of the "cheesy" things is that it's supposed to take place in 1997...the future. So, they dressed everyone up in obnoxious wardrobes and put ridiculous laser sights on their guns to make them futuristic looking. Also, minivans.

Ironically, the film was prophetic (or reflective) in its portrayal of gang violence in LA.
Title: Re: Favourite Predator Movie?
Post by: worldpeace on Aug 30, 2013, 08:56:48 AM
billy was accepting his fate and buying dutch less time then he thought . why he didn't shoot his underslung 12 gauge at the tree line instead i dunno. i also feel billy was  knocked off the log by a running shove or even a leap knocking him off.  just a semi hitting a v.w bug .or a line backer close lining a figure skater.   billy knew what the f**k was up. "aint no man... we're all gonna die. remeember dutch was originally an american indian in early scripts? billy later became the only cherokee aspect .  he had shit going on that was internal and entirely separate from what the rest of the team was thinking .


Quote from: Hudson on Aug 14, 2013, 06:37:45 PM
Quote from: DoomRulz on Aug 14, 2013, 11:48:41 AM
The action was too over the top which gave it a very cheesy feel. The action in the first Predator was plentiful but for some reason, to me at least, it didn't seem quite as nuts as Predator 2's. I think Predator also had far better pacing.

I'm not sure about the action being over the top, but one of the "cheesy" things is that it's supposed to take place in 1997...the future. So, they dressed everyone up in obnoxious wardrobes and put ridiculous laser sights on their guns to make them futuristic looking. Also, minivans.

Ironically, the film was prophetic (or reflective) in its portrayal of gang violence in LA.
atleast it wasnt back to the future 2 looking.
Title: Re: Favourite Predator Movie?
Post by: DC on Aug 30, 2013, 01:24:07 PM
I liked the first two fairly equally.
Predators slightly less.
Title: Re: Favourite Predator Movie?
Post by: Elmazalman on Sep 20, 2013, 09:46:38 AM
Hello,my favourite is the original,it's the scariest one and the jungle setting is terrifying,the predators hardware,the light bending tech combined with the shoulder mounted Plasma cannon were original and quite novel for the time.The sequel was ok but the concrete jungle of Los Angeles 1997 as a setting didn't work as well.
Title: Re: Favourite Predator Movie?
Post by: ArcticHuntress on Oct 23, 2013, 07:55:08 PM
Predator 2 gets my vote.
A city full of people available to be picked off brings the threat closer to home. The subway scene is one of my favorites.
I also love the look of the second Predator, his ship, the trophy wall and the Lost Tribe.
Title: Re: Favourite Predator Movie?
Post by: enypsrozar on Feb 04, 2014, 03:11:46 AM
Have to say the original. By far. The jungle was the predator's natural environment.
Title: Re: Favourite Predator Movie?
Post by: Shinobi Wan Kenobi on Feb 08, 2014, 03:51:36 AM
It would be cool if we take all pred movies and swap preds between them like anytime in avpr and wolf in predator
Title: Re: Favourite Predator Movie?
Post by: happypred on Feb 08, 2014, 11:00:20 AM
Quote from: Beast Mode on Feb 08, 2014, 03:51:36 AM
It would be cool if we take all pred movies and swap preds between them like anytime in avpr and wolf in predator

The teen predators and "super" predators are like the red-headed step children of the predator family
Title: Favorite Predator Movie
Post by: LastSurvivor92 on Mar 06, 2014, 01:25:46 AM
Never have been a huge Predator fan but I think their really cool and I have the blu-ray box set. I really enjoy the first film and Predators. Sorry Predator 2 fans i'm not a fan lol  :P Anyways vote above and tell me what your favorite Predator film is.
Title: Re: Favorite Predator Movie
Post by: shadowedge on Mar 06, 2014, 01:32:12 AM
I like Predator 2 the most. I know that most people think it is the worst one, but to me it has the coolest Predator as well as the best  fleshed out characters. Granted the action is nowhere nearly as good as Predator or Predators.
Title: Re: Favorite Predator Movie
Post by: AliceApocalypse on Mar 06, 2014, 02:12:02 AM
We have this post here already:

http://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/index.php?topic=5.0 (http://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/index.php?topic=5.0)
Title: Re: Favorite Predator Movie
Post by: blood. on Mar 06, 2014, 08:11:28 AM
Quote from: shadowedge on Mar 06, 2014, 01:32:12 AM
I like Predator 2 the most. I know that most people think it is the worst one, but to me it has the coolest Predator as well as the best  fleshed out characters. Granted the action is nowhere nearly as good as Predator or Predators.

I disagree with the action not being as good as predators. In predators, the action scenes were extremely underwhelming imo. The final fight was the only ok sequence. Predator 2 had a number of good action scenes. P1 is still the best though
Title: Re: Favourite Predator Movie?
Post by: KiramidHead on Mar 25, 2014, 01:08:21 AM
I had to vote for Predator. I like both sequels a lot, but the original just strikes the perfect balance for me.
Title: Re: Favourite Predator Movie?
Post by: Shinobi Wan Kenobi on Mar 25, 2014, 03:01:59 AM
Quote from: happypred on Feb 08, 2014, 11:00:20 AM
Quote from: Beast Mode on Feb 08, 2014, 03:51:36 AM
It would be cool if we take all pred movies and swap preds between them like anytime in avpr and wolf in predator

The teen predators and "super" predators are like the red-headed step children of the predator family

I'd like to see how Wolf would go about causing havoc in Predator 2 in exchange for Pussyface taking up the role of "cleaner" in AVP:R.
You gotta admit it would be interesting to say the least.
Title: Re: Favourite Predator Movie?
Post by: Master Chief on Mar 26, 2014, 06:50:25 PM
P2 would've made an even bigger mess than Wolf, he just didn't give a damn. Whereas Wolf would probably be more tactical hunting humans than P2.
Title: Re: Favourite Predator Movie?
Post by: KiramidHead on Mar 26, 2014, 07:30:36 PM
Now I kind of want to see Vengeance for Pussyface. :laugh:
Title: Re: Favourite Predator Movie?
Post by: DoomRulz on Mar 27, 2014, 03:51:22 PM
No one could write something as good as B-Rad G as he's not around anymore.
Title: Re: Favorite Predator Movie
Post by: PredShaman on May 24, 2014, 09:11:10 PM
Just wanted to say hi! I'm new & just thought I'd suggest a new movie idea! How about "Riddick v Predator" :)
Title: Re: Favourite Predator Movie?
Post by: Wrecktangle on May 26, 2014, 09:18:28 AM
Predators felt exotic in incorporating alien worlds and creatures, however it seemed to fall flat where the characters weren't particularly strong and the titular creatures themselves were offed somewhat easily. Although the mano e mano Predator fight was great.

The second was a great, gory action flick. But in the end I have to hand it to the original Predator, cheesy lines and action aplenty it was such an enjoyable movie.
Title: Re: Favourite Predator Movie?
Post by: Randomizer on Jun 05, 2014, 03:26:51 PM
   Predator 2 .
Title: Re: Favourite Predator Movie?
Post by: Shinobi Wan Kenobi on Jun 06, 2014, 01:15:24 AM
Ok ok... most of us chose original "Predator", but what about your favorite short film featuring a Predator?

Is it:

1-Batman: Dead End

2- AVP: Redemption

or

3- Wolverine vs Predator

All of these are on youtube if you haven't seen them. Can anyone add to the above list?

Title: Re: Favourite Predator Movie?
Post by: DoomRulz on Jun 06, 2014, 11:49:55 AM
Dead End. It combined all three of some of my favourite films into one great, sweet, short piece.
Title: Re: Favourite Predator Movie?
Post by: Shinobi Wan Kenobi on Jun 06, 2014, 03:47:44 PM
^ Dead End is awesome. Love the samurai pred aka "Big Red"
Title: Re: Favourite Predator Movie?
Post by: overthere on Aug 02, 2014, 08:12:28 PM
Not only is the first Predator the best of the series, it is also my favorite movie of all time, which means it's the best movie of all time.
Title: Re: Favourite Predator Movie?
Post by: locdasmoke on Aug 06, 2014, 12:25:22 AM
Predator 2
Title: Re: Favourite Predator Movie?
Post by: HuDaFuK on Aug 07, 2014, 10:10:01 AM
Unlike the Alien series, the original is so obviously the best Predator film it's not even worth debating.

I do enjoy the sequels (especially Predator 2), but neither of them come anywhere close to the first. It's not considered an all-time action classic for nothing.
Title: Re: Favourite Predator Movie?
Post by: Master on Aug 08, 2014, 08:31:52 PM
That's your point of view.  I like P2 nearly as much.
Title: Re: Favourite Predator Movie?
Post by: Mr. Sin on Aug 08, 2014, 10:13:16 PM
I love Predator, so does my son. Predators is next, then Predator 2.
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Post by: Dark Blade1 on Nov 26, 2014, 02:42:23 PM
i like predator 1 because it was very good and had lots of blood their was one funny part not that funny but kinda of funny.
Title: Re: Favourite Predator Movie?
Post by: Shinobi Wan Kenobi on Dec 12, 2014, 10:21:03 PM
Quote from: Dark Blade1 on Nov 26, 2014, 02:42:23 PM
... their was one funny part not that funny but kinda of funny.

The Hawkins joke. Classic.
Title: Re: Favourite Predator Movie?
Post by: Close Encounters on Mar 09, 2015, 01:44:15 AM
I must be a freak. My favorite Predator film is Predators, the third one. Loved the cast, had a great setting, wonderful action scenes. Its only shortcomings were substandard looks for the hunters(I loved how they looked in AvP, personally) and poor special effects in several instances. But Predators is one of my favorite movies ever. I never expected to like Adrien Brody in anything, nor did I expect to like a movie by Rodriguez. Predators proved me wrong on both counts.

And believe me, this is not a slight on the first two films. I enjoy both of them for different reasons, and loved the Predator franchise just fine before Predators came out. But until that movie, I enjoyed the Predator franchise a bit less than the Alien franchise. Predators managed to put the two neck and neck.
Title: Re: Favourite Predator Movie?
Post by: AllSaintsDay2099 on Jul 05, 2015, 04:54:20 AM
I personally prefer Predator 2. Everything was bigger and better in my opinion. A city setting - Pure genius. The expanded mythos - great. The weapons. - Flawless. Danny Glover - one of my favorite old school actors. Everything was just cool. I haven't been able to find my Predator 1 movie, since it's mixed in with the thousands of movies my dad owns and he rearranges it all once I'm finally knowing where my stuff is at. But Predator 2 beats Predator 1 from what I can recall. I just love the city environment so much.
Title: Re: Favourite Predator Movie?
Post by: THE CITY HUNTER on Jul 06, 2015, 04:15:55 PM
Quote from: AllSaintsDay2099 on Jul 05, 2015, 04:54:20 AM
I personally prefer Predator 2. Everything was bigger and better in my opinion. A city setting - Pure genius. The expanded mythos - great. The weapons. - Flawless. Danny Glover - one of my favorite old school actors. Everything was just cool. I haven't been able to find my Predator 1 movie, since it's mixed in with the thousands of movies my dad owns and he rearranges it all once I'm finally knowing where my stuff is at. But Predator 2 beats Predator 1 from what I can recall. I just love the city environment so much.
Totally agree with you too bad it was under rated like Alien 3.
Title: Re: Favourite Predator Movie?
Post by: skull-splitter on Aug 01, 2015, 10:38:52 PM
Quote from: Shinobi Wan Kenobi on Dec 12, 2014, 10:21:03 PM
Quote from: Dark Blade1 on Nov 26, 2014, 02:42:23 PM
... their was one funny part not that funny but kinda of funny.

The Hawkins joke. Classic.
I was laughing at the pig remark like Billy.
Title: Re: Favourite Predator Movie?
Post by: Alien³ on Sep 11, 2015, 05:14:03 PM
Here's our commentary for Predator 2 which we talk about why its up there with the original and more.

Title: Re: Favourite Predator Movie?
Post by: Omegamorph on Sep 13, 2015, 09:41:38 AM
I really, really don't get the discrimination Predator 2 at times gets. It's ballsy, but it's every bit as ballsy as the first one.
Title: Re: Favourite Predator Movie?
Post by: HuDaFuK on Sep 14, 2015, 07:46:20 AM
Quote from: Omegamorph on Sep 13, 2015, 09:41:38 AMI really, really don't get the discrimination Predator 2 at times gets. It's ballsy, but it's every bit as ballsy as the first one.

I've been saying this for years. It's certainly not an all-time classic like the original, but it's a thoroughly entertaining action movie in its own right, and it adds a hell of a lot to the Predator species that is now taken for granted.
Title: Re: Favourite Predator Movie?
Post by: Corporal Hicks on Sep 15, 2015, 11:13:00 AM
My only problem with Predator 2 is the cheese. I know, Predator has it's own cheese but Predator 2 is just so noticeable. That said, I still love all 3 films.
Title: Re: Favourite Predator Movie?
Post by: HuDaFuK on Sep 15, 2015, 11:34:09 AM
While I'm not saying you're wrong, I never understand when people complain that the sequel is too cheesy. To me it's no more or less ridiculous than the first film. I mean, a man walks around with a minigun and Arnie nails a guy to a post with a machete while quipping, "Stick around!" I don't get how anything in Predator 2 is significantly dumber or cheesier than that.

They both have their fair share of silly moments and serious moments. Maybe the first just gets a pass because it's Arnie and that's what people expect with him, I dunno.
Title: Re: Favourite Predator Movie?
Post by: System Apollo on Sep 15, 2015, 02:13:45 PM
Quote from: HuDaFuK on Sep 15, 2015, 11:34:09 AM
While I'm not saying you're wrong, I never understand when people complain that the sequel is too cheesy. To me it's no more or less ridiculous than the first film. I mean, a man walks around with a minigun and Arnie nails a guy to a post with a machete while quipping, "Stick around!" I don't get how anything in Predator 2 is significantly dumber or cheesier than that.

They both have their fair share of silly moments and serious moments. Maybe the first just gets a pass because it's Arnie and that's what people expect with him, I dunno.
:laugh: That's a first.

The silly moments in the first movie were done during and before the exposition of the characters and their capabilities when they were in the firefight. After that the tone changed dramatically.

Predator 2 on the other hand had those silly moments appear in many different occasions and sometimes inappropriately as well as deliberately. I love the Predator franchise and all of their installments equally but I could understand where people might find Predator 2 to be inferior in its case.
Title: Re: Favourite Predator Movie?
Post by: HuDaFuK on Sep 15, 2015, 02:38:13 PM
Quote from: System Apollo on Sep 15, 2015, 02:13:45 PMThe silly moments in the first movie were done during and before the exposition of the characters and their capabilities when they were in the firefight. After that the tone changed dramatically.

That's actually a good point. The silly stuff is more evenly spread throughout in the sequel.

For the record, I do think Predator 2 is inferior to the first. I just don't find the overt cheesiness to necessarily be the reason, because, as I said, it's there in the first.
Title: Re: Favourite Predator Movie?
Post by: THE CITY HUNTER on Sep 15, 2015, 02:58:18 PM
Predator 2 i love it,it is my favorite one but the reason why people NOTICED the cheesiness was how they were acting,how they are holding the guns hey i was in the army cadets but even normal people noticed it felt like the actors were playing a game if you know what i mean.
Title: Re: Favourite Predator Movie?
Post by: Corporal Hicks on Sep 15, 2015, 03:11:06 PM
Quote from: HuDaFuK on Sep 15, 2015, 02:38:13 PM
For the record, I do think Predator 2 is inferior to the first. I just don't find the overt cheesiness to necessarily be the reason, because, as I said, it's there in the first.

I don't think it's overt in the first film. That's the difference for me.
Title: Re: Favourite Predator Movie?
Post by: D. Compton Ambrose on Sep 15, 2015, 03:48:27 PM
I definitely like the first the best. I didn't even know Predator existed until I saw that movie for the first time back in like 1998.
Title: Re: Favourite Predator Movie?
Post by: Topazora on Sep 15, 2015, 06:07:18 PM
interestingly, Predators is starting to work it's way into being my top fav predator movie, funny how I hated it at first.  I don't know if its just the acting or just the characters.  I prefer the predators of the first two movies, especially the first one, but generally what makes me like a movie is the acting and the characters in it.
Title: Re: Favourite Predator Movie?
Post by: System Apollo on Sep 15, 2015, 07:48:44 PM
Quote from: Topazora on Sep 15, 2015, 06:07:18 PM
interestingly, Predators is starting to work it's way into being my top fav predator movie, funny how I hated it at first.  I don't know if its just the acting or just the characters.  I prefer the predators of the first two movies, especially the first one, but generally what makes me like a movie is the acting and the characters in it.
The characters in Predators were the best aspect of the film. Rodriguez fleshed them all out really well and the extended slideshow feature on the dvd put even more of a dynamic on a couple of them.

QuoteIn my culture,  the one with the most trophies commands the most respect.

Honestly,  I am surprised that fans are so critical of it. I admit, the homages were too abundant and weighed the movie down heavily but aside from that it was a really fun sequel, which is what the Predator franchise is intended to be; fun.
Title: Re: Favourite Predator Movie?
Post by: Alien³ on Sep 16, 2015, 01:14:34 PM
What are the silly moments in Predator 2?

Title: Re: Favourite Predator Movie?
Post by: THE CITY HUNTER on Sep 16, 2015, 02:51:42 PM
Quote from: Alien³ on Sep 16, 2015, 01:14:34 PM
What are the silly moments in Predator 2?
The chessy jokes also the beginning action was so over the top and how they were acting was like they were not serious and how they were handling the guns,i was in the cadets but my friend even said how they are holding it and how they are reacting in the situation is not serious.
Title: Re: Favourite Predator Movie?
Post by: Alien³ on Sep 16, 2015, 04:43:59 PM
Quote from: THE CITY HUNTER on Sep 16, 2015, 02:51:42 PM
The chessy jokes

Which jokes :-\
Title: Re: Favourite Predator Movie?
Post by: System Apollo on Sep 16, 2015, 06:28:53 PM
I wouldn't personally say that the action itself was cheesy. You have to remember Hollywood was a total different place during the 80's (yes that even includes 1990).  The cinematics were merely an average product of their time.

Quote from: Alien³ on Sep 16, 2015, 04:43:59 PM
Quote from: THE CITY HUNTER on Sep 16, 2015, 02:51:42 PM
The chessy jokes

Which jokes :-\

There was a lot of them. Some used in context and some of them out of context.

QuoteSo the doctor told me, "I need a urine, semen and stool sample." And I told him, "Gee doc, I'm kind of in a hurry could I just leave you my underwear?"

Is an example of one of the film's jokes within the context of it being a joke.

QuoteHarrigan: Your move pussyface!
Predator: Shit Happens.

Is an example of one of the film's jokes that was not in context with the situation and became inappropriate for that particular situation.
Which is why some claim those moments as cheesy.

Bill Paxton's character was the comic relief throughout the film. After his character died in the film there's a fairly average lengthed disposition (Harrigan chasing the predator, the special operative team hunting the predator, the team having the faceoff with the predator and Harrigan coming in to rescue the team leading to him temporarily putting the predator in a state of unconsciousness) and then you notice that the predator would take the comic relief role briefly and then quickly switch back to its serious antagonist role.

This is minor and only evident in the fourth act but does leave quite a bit of an impact on how the audience would percieve the film.
Title: Re: Favourite Predator Movie?
Post by: HuDaFuK on Sep 16, 2015, 07:31:11 PM
Quote from: THE CITY HUNTER on Sep 16, 2015, 02:51:42 PMthe beginning action was so over the top

And the jungle camp attack in Predator isn't?
Title: Re: Favourite Predator Movie?
Post by: Alien³ on Sep 16, 2015, 07:49:06 PM
Quote from: System Apollo on Sep 16, 2015, 06:28:53 PM
QuoteHarrigan: Your move pussyface!
Predator: Shit Happens.

Is an example of one of the film's jokes that was not in context with the situation and became inappropriate for that particular situation.

It's totally in context with the situation. Plus were those played for laughs? I've never thought of those lines as jokes.

All of Bill Paxton's stuff works and is no more cheesy than Hawkins jokes from the original.
Title: Re: Favourite Predator Movie?
Post by: DoomRulz on Sep 16, 2015, 10:56:59 PM
I rewatched Predator last weekend on Blu-Ray. There was a preview for Predators beforehand. I want to rewatch that as well but everytime I think about it, I recall how disappointed I was with it.
Title: Re: Favourite Predator Movie?
Post by: System Apollo on Sep 16, 2015, 11:43:45 PM
Quote from: Alien³ on Sep 16, 2015, 07:49:06 PM
Quote from: System Apollo on Sep 16, 2015, 06:28:53 PM
QuoteHarrigan: Your move pussyface!
Predator: Shit Happens.

Is an example of one of the film's jokes that was not in context with the situation and became inappropriate for that particular situation.

It's totally in context with the situation. Plus were those played for laughs? I've never thought of those lines as jokes.

All of Bill Paxton's stuff works and is no more cheesy than Hawkins jokes from the original.

If you didn't find it funny and thought it was in context than I am not going to disagree with your notion. After all, I'm just speculating.  :)

Quote from: DoomRulz on Sep 16, 2015, 10:56:59 PM
I rewatched Predator last weekend on Blu-Ray. There was a preview for Predators beforehand. I want to rewatch that as well but everytime I think about it, I recall how disappointed I was with it.
Kudos, how was it and why were you disappointed with it?
Title: Re: Favourite Predator Movie?
Post by: DoomRulz on Sep 16, 2015, 11:49:55 PM
The first reason is that the writers couldn't go more than a few minutes without throwing in very ham-fisted references to the older films. It reeked of unoriginality and reminded me of how much fun I had watching Predators 1 and 2. I wasn't having fun with Predators. Overall, I found the script very weak. The dialogue was totally forgettable and the characters didn't have any chemistry together, like Dutch and his team. I know that in Predators they were all strangers and all criminals, but there still should have been something to keep them together beyond, "We have a common enemy. OK, I'll just kill you later then" type of thing. The film takes itself very seriously as a result and again, doesn't have the same fun or charm that the previous movies did. I also didn't like the design of the Predators either. Classic still had Scar's mouth problem (too big), the Super Predators were hideous and not in a good way and frankly, didn't do much to stand out from the usual crowd of Predators we've seen other than wear scarier masks. I also don't recall the Predators being particularly tall or large.
Title: Re: Favourite Predator Movie?
Post by: Alien³ on Sep 17, 2015, 01:18:24 PM
Quote from: DoomRulz on Sep 16, 2015, 11:49:55 PM
The first reason is that the writers couldn't go more than a few minutes without throwing in very ham-fisted references to the older films. It reeked of unoriginality and reminded me of how much fun I had watching Predators 1 and 2. I wasn't having fun with Predators. Overall, I found the script very weak. The dialogue was totally forgettable and the characters didn't have any chemistry together, like Dutch and his team. I know that in Predators they were all strangers and all criminals, but there still should have been something to keep them together beyond, "We have a common enemy. OK, I'll just kill you later then" type of thing. The film takes itself very seriously as a result and again, doesn't have the same fun or charm that the previous movies did.

I agree.

But the silver lining of the Predators cloud was that it's still better than both AVP films. At least theres that.
Title: Re: Favourite Predator Movie?
Post by: HuDaFuK on Sep 17, 2015, 01:35:33 PM
Quote from: DoomRulz on Sep 16, 2015, 11:49:55 PMThe first reason is that the writers couldn't go more than a few minutes without throwing in very ham-fisted references to the older films.

This is an entirely valid criticism, and almost certainly the film's biggest problem, but I was just about able to get past it and enjoy the movie. And as Alien³ says, at least it was better than the AVP films.
Title: Re: Favourite Predator Movie?
Post by: DoomRulz on Sep 17, 2015, 01:50:14 PM
On Predators vs the AvP films, I'd place it on the same level as the first AvP. Both films wanted to be good but their execution was lousy. Objectively, both films are better than AvP:R but I'd sooner watch AvP:R because it doesn't take itself seriously. The filmmakers knew they were making major missteps when putting it together (namely the weak Aliens and uber Pred) but overall, it works as dumb fun for me.
Title: Re: Favourite Predator Movie?
Post by: Alien³ on Sep 17, 2015, 01:57:38 PM
I irony is that AVP:R has the best predator out of the three films.
Title: Re: Favourite Predator Movie?
Post by: System Apollo on Sep 17, 2015, 02:15:01 PM
Quote from: DoomRulz on Sep 16, 2015, 11:49:55 PM
The first reason is that the writers couldn't go more than a few minutes without throwing in very ham-fisted references to the older films. It reeked of unoriginality and reminded me of how much fun I had watching Predators 1 and 2. I wasn't having fun with Predators.
Quote from: HuDaFuK on Sep 17, 2015, 01:35:33 PM
Quote from: DoomRulz on Sep 16, 2015, 11:49:55 PMThe first reason is that the writers couldn't go more than a few minutes without throwing in very ham-fisted references to the older films.

This is an entirely valid criticism, and almost certainly the film's biggest problem, but I was just about able to get past it and enjoy the movie. And as Alien³ says, at least it was better than the AVP films.
Huda really took the words out of my hands with this one!




QuoteOverall, I found the script very weak. The dialogue was totally forgettable and the characters didn't have any chemistry together, like Dutch and his team. I know that in Predators they were all strangers and all criminals, but there still should have been something to keep them together beyond, "We have a common enemy. OK, I'll just kill you later then" type of thing
The script was littered with too many references so it definitely was weak. I really didn't  expect any better from Rodriguez; writing was never his thing. Fortunately the characters were not stock characters and Rodriguez gave us the time to know them. They didn't have chemistry because that was what was intended, they weren't supposed to work well together of course if this wasn't your type of preference it's understandable.

QuoteThe film takes itself very seriously as a result and again, doesn't have the same fun or charm that the previous movies did.
Topher Grace just didn't cut it... :laugh:

QuoteI also didn't like the design of the Predators either. Classic still had Scar's mouth problem (too big), the Super Predators were hideous and not in a good way and frankly, didn't do much to stand out from the usual crowd of Predators we've seen other than wear scarier masks. I also don't recall the Predators being particularly tall or large.
Not many people notice this but if you plan to rewatch the film, Doom; pay close attention to the classic predator's mouth. It never closes its mouth, it remains open, not the mandibles; the jaw. That always bothered me... Seems like they didn't put any mechanisms in the jaw making it look unnatural. The super predators (I dislike the word super, it makes them sound like they are superior to the classic in every way  :-\ ) were definitely not so great. Never was a big fan of predators wearing bones on their helmets. Other than that the general costume design looked really monotonous in certain features.

When I look at Predators I don't see a bad film, but moreover; a mediocre one. As a fan I would like to see a good film so when it fails to deliver that expectation I usually call it bad. It is similar to how I felt about Jurassic World or Terminator Genesys. But of course, those were better recieved.

Quote from: DoomRulz on Sep 17, 2015, 01:50:14 PM
The filmmakers knew they were making major missteps when putting it together (namely the weak Aliens and uber Pred) but overall, it works as dumb fun for me.
I think they truly believed they were making a good film. The archives here show that there was a lot of consideration on Collin's behalf.
Title: Re: Favourite Predator Movie?
Post by: DoomRulz on Sep 17, 2015, 02:28:07 PM
Quote from: Alien³ on Sep 17, 2015, 01:57:38 PM
I irony is that AVP:R has the best predator out of the three films.

Haha, too right!

Quote from: System Apollo on Sep 17, 2015, 02:15:01 PM
Not many people notice this but if you plan to rewatch the film, Doom; pay close attention to the classic predator's mouth. It never closes its mouth, it remains open, not the mandibles; the jaw. That always bothered me... Seems like they didn't put any mechanisms in the jaw making it look unnatural. The super predators (I dislike the word super, it makes them sound like they are superior to the classic in every way  :-\ ) were definitely not so great. Never was a big fan of predators wearing bones on their helmets. Other than that the general costume design looked really monotonous in certain features.

It's the jaw? Huh, I knew something was off. I recall it looking like Scar's kisser.

Quote from: System Apollo on Sep 17, 2015, 02:15:01 PM
When I look at Predators I don't see a bad film, but moreover; a mediocre one. As a fan I would like to see a good film so when it fails to deliver that expectation I usually call it bad. It is similar to how I felt about Jurassic World or Terminator Genesys. But of course, those were better recieved
.

Oh I don't know about T:G. I'd happily watch Predators over that pile of tosh any day of the week. A mediocre film is certainly what Predators is. It's very meh, which is arguably worse than bad. At least with bad films, you remember most of them.

Quote from: System Apollo on Sep 17, 2015, 02:15:01 PMI think they truly believed they were making a good film. The archives here show that there was a lot of consideration on Collin's behalf.

Give the commentary a listen. It'll change your mind.
Title: Re: Favourite Predator Movie?
Post by: System Apollo on Sep 17, 2015, 02:42:45 PM
The commentary? I will get right to that. I always thought they were confident about their final product.
Title: Re: Favourite Predator Movie?
Post by: QuiGonGinNJuice on Nov 09, 2015, 08:19:53 PM
I don't understand the backlash 2 received. Sure the cops don't seem as tough as the boys in the jungle but I found Danny Glover beliveable as a hardened bad ass cop. However were i see predator 2 really shinning is in the details about Yautja culture, and its comic noir feel.

All the movies have good and bad parts to them but 2 seems to be the most true to how I see the Yautja 
Title: Re: Favourite Predator Movie?
Post by: Corporal Hicks on Nov 09, 2015, 08:43:13 PM
I think it was more the cheese in Predator 2 that got it flack. I loved it personally - all the Predator stuff in 2 was fantastic.
Title: Re: Favourite Predator Movie?
Post by: QuiGonGinNJuice on Nov 10, 2015, 04:00:14 PM
The problem i see with Predators is they set up a great story line with the super Predators vs classic Predators so why have humans involved at all. The Badblood vs enforcer comic was well done. but had humans in it as well. I want to see a movie with predators vs predators on a massive scale. Or predators hunting a new Alien species.

Back to the Super preds. they did not see to be that much stronger then the classics which I like and I could see either winning in a fair fight( in the movie classic was hung up for a unknown time before the fight and was on the super preds home court so to speak) when they are compared to Wolves and dogs in the movie classics must be more German Shepherd then Pomeranian. Since he does put up a fight before being killed. That is why for my costume I'm a classic pred but my shoulder pad as made out of the mask of the Berserker Predators mask to show I had killed a super Pred.
Title: Re: Favourite Predator Movie?
Post by: HuDaFuK on Mar 31, 2016, 09:39:41 AM
Watched Predators for the first time in ages last night.

It's a fun film with a few great elements. Royce is awesome, despite the left-field casting. The character's great and probably the only one in the movie that's genuinely memorable (unless you count Noland, but he's mostly memorable for the wrong reasons). It's a shame there are so many potentially great concepts in the film that end up being botched, Noland and the idea of warring Preds being two of the most obvious ones.

I think the thing that really drags the movie though down is this - unlike the first two, it just doesn't feel particularly special. It's just another movie that happens to have Predators in it, as opposed to a God damn Predator movie. I also felt like it has an unmistakeable air of cheapness to it, like they were just doing the bare minimum to get it out there. Whether you love or hate Predator 2, you at least get the impression they threw everything at it.
Title: Re: Favourite Predator Movie?
Post by: overthere on Mar 31, 2016, 11:12:55 AM
I agree completely. Royce was great, but Nolan literally paused the movie and ruined any kind of pacing it had. Also, he's worried about having more mouths to feed, but seems well fed himself.

There are too many homages to the original. What are the odds of Dutch experiencing everything, and then this group experiences similar course of events within already astronomical chances of getting hunted by a Predator? Imagine Dutch and Royce meeting in a survivor's therapy group and sharing their experience.

Dutch: Then I started running but fell in a river
Royce: We too!

Dutch: I told the thing "c'mon, do it, do it, kill me I'm here"
Royce: Hey, our guy did that too!

Dutch: One of my guys stood back with a big knife and tried to fight it head on
Royce: Hey, our guy did that too (with a sword)!

Predators copied some things scene by scene, which makes it a crappy sequel. Things like this don't happen in the same order twice.



Title: Re: Favourite Predator Movie?
Post by: Primordial on Mar 31, 2016, 09:41:48 PM
QuoteWatched Predators for the first time in ages last night.
Coincidence, same for me.

Only Noland was memorable, but his on-screen time was too short and how his death was delivered was terrible.
I particularly like the alien planet sky which shows the other planets and moons. The atmosphere is excellent as well as the colors, maybe the strongest point of the movie.

QuoteI also felt like it has an unmistakeable air of cheapness to it

I especially have in mind the about-average dialogues with a poor interactivity/fluidity between characters, a very cheesy death like Walter Stans' one and some unneeded betrayal of one guy. This movie also doesn't elevate the prestige of the predators if we were to establish a 'hunting rank'.

Predator    : 9,75/10
Predator 2 : 7/10 (from memory, have to rewatch it)
Predators  : 8/10
Title: Re: Favourite Predator Movie?
Post by: THE CITY HUNTER on Mar 31, 2016, 09:45:32 PM
Quote from: Primordial on Mar 31, 2016, 09:41:48 PM
QuoteWatched Predators for the first time in ages last night.
Coincidence, same for me.

Only Noland was memorable, but his on-screen time was too short and how his death was delivered was terrible.
I particularly like the alien planet sky which shows the other planets and moons. The atmosphere is excellent as well as the colors, maybe the strongest point of the movie.

QuoteI also felt like it has an unmistakeable air of cheapness to it

I especially have in mind the about-average dialogues with a poor interactivity/fluidity between characters, a very cheesy death like Walter Stans' one and some unneeded betrayal of one guy. This movie also doesn't elevate the prestige of the predators if we were to establish a 'hunting rank'.

Predator    : 9,75/10
Predator 2 : 7/10 (from memory, have to rewatch it)
Predators  : 8/10
how come you gave it more then P2
Title: Re: Favourite Predator Movie?
Post by: overthere on Apr 01, 2016, 12:04:54 AM
Quote from: Primordial on Mar 31, 2016, 09:41:48 PM

Predator    : 9,75/10
Predator 2 : 7/10 (from memory, have to rewatch it)
Predators  : 8/10

What takes away 0,25 from Predator?
Title: Re: Favourite Predator Movie?
Post by: Primordial on Apr 01, 2016, 06:38:06 AM
Quote from: THE CITY HUNTER on Mar 31, 2016, 09:45:32 PM
how come you gave it more then P2

To be honest, it has been such a long time I haven't seen 'Predator 2' that I only remember vaguely the icetruck scene, the old lady with the broom and the hero droping the weapon when the other predators appear... I was quite disappointed at the time compared to the previous one, and imo it shouldn't have occured in a city (well, seeing you avatar you would probably disagree, which is totally fine, it is just a matter of taste of course). I'm one of those who put emphasis on the place and atmosphere, that's why 'Predators' has a higher grade.
The 7/10 can only get higher after rewatch.

Quote from: overthere on Apr 01, 2016, 12:04:54 AM
What takes away 0,25 from Predator?

Due to rewatch the other day. It grew as a legendary film in me however there are details like some poor parts in the music (which is too much of a contrast with the overall masterpiece that is delivered) and some not exactly great performance from Arnie even though this movie isn't about acting.

In the 'spirit', this movie is worth 10/10 but it is a little message to reconsider the fact of idealizing too much previous movies and slashing the sequels, (I especially have in mind 'Terminator Genisys' , this movie didn't deserve all this hate)
Title: Re: Favourite Predator Movie?
Post by: overthere on Apr 17, 2016, 11:54:22 AM
I wish there was a Director's Cut of the original.
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Post by: Corporal Hicks on Apr 18, 2016, 08:24:18 AM
There's very little to add back into it.
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Post by: HuDaFuK on Apr 18, 2016, 08:32:09 AM
Quote from: overthere on Apr 17, 2016, 11:54:22 AMI wish there was a Director's Cut of the original.

As Hicks says, by all accounts there was very little filmed for the original movie that didn't make it into the final cut. Some stuff with the original suit and a couple of very brief deleted scenes from the DVD that aren't really very interesting anyway.

Predator 2, on the other hand...
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Post by: Corporal Hicks on Apr 18, 2016, 08:50:36 AM
I'd love to see that NC17 cut of Predator.
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Post by: overthere on Apr 18, 2016, 02:45:36 PM
There was that scene where a butterfly lands on cloaked Predator. There's a scene in the script that didn't get filmed but it would have been cool, where the Predator is right behind someone following them step by step, when they stop he stops, when they move he moves. Sort of like something from a cartoon where Tom is trying to be silent behind Spike.
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Post by: Kaltes on May 28, 2016, 07:53:30 PM
Cliche as it may sound, the first one. Though I think Predator 2 is great as well, I like it nearly as much as its predecessor.
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Post by: Xan21 on Jun 30, 2016, 10:10:54 PM
It's so amazing to me how Predator 2 does have that same vibe as the first one, that hot sweaty feel, the amazing music, the gore, great looking Predators, intense characters. It's the cartoony human characters that made it a bit iffy at times, but I almost love it as much as the first one. I wish Hopkins would give us a directors cut.
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Post by: Scorpio on Jul 01, 2016, 02:34:34 PM
I love Predator 2 but it wasn't nearly as scary and suspenseful as the original.  Same with Predators.
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Post by: Kaltes on Jul 01, 2016, 05:11:43 PM
Quote from: Scorpio on Jul 01, 2016, 02:34:34 PM
I love Predator 2 but it wasn't nearly as scary and suspenseful as the original.  Same with Predators.

That's part of the reason the first is my favorite, it had a great feeling of terror and suspense the other two just don't have. Though Predator 2 had its moments.
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Post by: szkoki on Jul 07, 2016, 09:18:24 AM
Watched Predators again the day before, aside from few cheesy moments its a decent movie/remake of the original and its well shot damn.
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Post by: overthere on Jul 13, 2016, 11:01:36 AM
It just hit me how Dutch is the baddest of all badasses. He was literally such a badass that he punched a Predator in the face.
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Post by: Master on Jul 13, 2016, 11:08:48 AM
Yeah I`d love to see Nc-17 cut of P2. To finally see Keyes upper part to fall down... ahh one can dream.
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Post by: Xan21 on Jul 13, 2016, 02:06:57 PM
I wanna see the leading jamaican ripping the heart out of Ramon (you can see it partly when other Jamaican guy turns around to see the predator) .

Would love to see the scene with the cops celebrating Leona's birthday also (you can see the ' Happy Birthday Baby Cakes'  banner in the background)

I would have loved the taxidermist shop scene but I think they never filmed it (think it was only in first draft?)

I also watched Predators (I was gonna put all the deleted scenes back in, but some shots were lesser quality) but I hate it even more now actually. The characters had no chemistry at all. It was so obviously Hawai...While mr Royce acted like it was all rough terrain but you could almost see the tikitiki huts in the background...hated it, the story, the rehashing of all the quotes from #1...brrr I hope the new film will be nothing like this.
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Post by: Scorpio on Jul 13, 2016, 02:10:00 PM
Didn't Predators have the same budget as AVPR?
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Post by: Xan21 on Jul 13, 2016, 02:25:35 PM
Looks like it
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Post by: BishopShouldGo on Jul 13, 2016, 02:39:15 PM
Predator. Predator 2 was exploitative and Predators felt cheap.
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Post by: HuDaFuK on Jul 13, 2016, 03:33:05 PM
Quote from: BishopShouldGo on Jul 13, 2016, 02:39:15 PMPredator 2 was exploitative.

Predsploitation.
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Post by: FiorinaFury161 on Jul 13, 2016, 03:45:53 PM
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Post by: Scorpio on Jul 13, 2016, 07:19:52 PM
QuotePredator 2 was exploitative

In defense of Predator 2, that was very much the style of the time.  See Robocop 2 and Total Recall, which came out the same year.
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Post by: overthere on Jul 14, 2016, 01:52:36 AM
How was P2 exploitative?
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Post by: Master on Jul 14, 2016, 07:05:26 AM
Guy just don`t like P2 cause it`s too repetitive and out of Dutch.
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Post by: Kaltes on Jul 16, 2016, 07:28:07 PM
Funny thing, my mother has been reading Predator: South China Sea 'cause I wouldn't shut up about it so I got her to watch the first movie with me. She liked it.
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Post by: serbip1 on Sep 24, 2016, 01:57:14 PM
I loved all the Predator movies besides "Predators",I feel neutral about it,but I enjoy the Predators design.
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Post by: colonialmarine9 on Oct 08, 2016, 11:30:55 PM
I just watched the all of the Predator movies this week

I love Predator and Predator 2 but Predators is not as strong as a Predator movie, it isn't a bad movie but the main problem with it is that it feels rather mediocre and bland in some parts of the movie. My main problems with the film is that the Preds are far to weak, that it copies the original far to much and that it doesn't have the feel of the first two movies, it doesn't feel like a Predator film should.

As for the ratings

P1 and P2 are excellent films with the original being a little better

Ps while not a bad film is rather mediocre compared to the original two films
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Post by: HuDaFuK on Oct 09, 2016, 12:00:41 PM
Feel the same.
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Post by: nanison on Dec 02, 2016, 08:17:29 PM
I can't pick between 1 and 2 so I went for predator 2 to boost up it's numbers. Very underrated film, it would be more regarded if Arnold was in it but to me it doesn't matter...
What I especially like about the 2 films is the really extended climatic battle scenes. Where the hunter becomes the hunted.Where the hero takes on the beast one on one. It's like Jaws when Quint and his crew hunt for the shark, it's quite epic and it lasts for about 40 minutes or so. Predator 1 and 2 does the same.
Predators looks and feels cheap and uninspired.
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Post by: Master on Dec 04, 2016, 11:42:33 PM
Yeah, I agree with that opinion.
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Post by: klesk4ever on Dec 05, 2016, 12:08:45 AM
Predator 2 is my favorite. I simply like the whole "urban jungle" setting more, and Danny Glover acting was awesome.
Predator is right behind it.

Predators was close, but several things made my eyes roll. ::)
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Post by: Huntsman on Jun 28, 2017, 07:50:57 AM
My ranking is Predator, Predator 2 and Predators.

The original is a stone cold classic and the sequel is very underrated.
I like Predators a lot more than I did. If anything it's also underrated.

We return to the jungle, but the situation is slightly different.
The 1987 soundtrack is directly referenced a number of times.
It had a greater focus on the characters ala the original film.
It introduced new Predator elements like the other two films - the drone and the dogs.

It's not as good as the other films but it's not without merit. It was a big step in the right direction.
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Post by: BigDaddyJohn on Jul 02, 2017, 03:54:17 PM
P1
P2
P's

The first one is perfect, it is vastly superior to the other ones in terms of directing and cinematography, it's easily demonstrable. But I absolutely love the second one too, it added a great amount of good stuff to the lore, and it is wonderfully entertaining and paced, nervous and really hardcore. P's was very mediocre to me, a pretentious "homage" to the first one (nobody asked rodriguez to pay homage to the first one anyway, who is he to be legitimate enough to do that ?), a lazy movie with no real intensity or creativity (barely), some shots looks good though, but it's very thin.
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Post by: Huntsman on Jul 03, 2017, 03:21:28 AM
Quote from: BigDaddyJohn on Jul 02, 2017, 03:54:17 PM
P's was very mediocre to me, a pretentious "homage" to the first one (nobody asked rodriguez to pay homage to the first one anyway, who is he to be legitimate enough to do that ?), a lazy movie with no real intensity or creativity (barely), some shots looks good though, but it's very thin.
Sure, some things are on the nose, such as having another character lugging around a minigun. But I think Predators has just enough differentiation not to be a blatant remake. For example, we get another 'stand and fight' scene ala Billy in the original, but this time, even though the character is still killed, we actually see the encounter and he manages to take a Predator with him.

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Post by: BigDaddyJohn on Jul 03, 2017, 05:17:22 PM
Sure, this was different from the first movie, but I thought it was poorly orchestrated, and what rodriguez didn't seem to get, is that all the power in this scene in the first movie, was that you never actually saw it. That kept you on the edge of your seat, imagining what horrible stuff coul've happen to Billy ! In Predators I'm sure nearly nobody was on the edge of their seat during this scene. In the first movie it was symbolic to take out off-screen the only character who seemed to be the first to kinda understand what he was dealing with... Here in Predators it's just "ooh let's make a cool scene to show a never seen before fight between a yakusa and and Predator ! Sooo cooool !" You just need to read rodriguez interviews and watch the behind the scenes of some of his movies, and you'll know this is how he thinks... Very teenage-like reasoning...
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Post by: Highland on Jul 11, 2017, 12:49:42 PM
I watched Predators for the first time in ages this week. I think I like it better now than I did on release, funny how it works like that. It could possibly also be how I thought the characters seemed to be reacting in a real way not only to their environment, but to the situation they had been put in. Having just come off the back of Covenant where seeing thousands of Alien dead bodies seemed to be just another day in the office for the Covenant crew.

There's some beautiful shots in the jungle, the music is great with the original sound track, the acting is very good with the characters actually having character. Funnily enough if anything that lets the movie down it's the Predators, it sort of takes a sharp turn to the left when Nolan shows up.

I can't help but think if they'd played Nolan straight up as a helper ( not a madman) the film could have been much better, although I think from memory he only had a small shooting time.

Overall, a solid film. The Predator series for me is much more in tune with what it's trying to be over it's other half the Alien series. Predator is a much more rounded franchise despite each movie not really having much to do with the previous one. It feels like each movie is respecting the base rules and previous canon.

Saying that, what I read about Shane Blacks new movie could potentially spoil that.


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Post by: Huntsman on Jul 12, 2017, 08:44:36 AM
Quote from: Highland on Jul 11, 2017, 12:49:42 PM
I watched Predators for the first time in ages this week. I think I like it better now than I did on release, funny how it works like that.
Yep. I went into my rewatch with an open mind, and was more or less won over. Super Predators aren't my cup of tea, but I went along with the concept and embraced it for what it was.
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Post by: HuDaFuK on Jul 12, 2017, 10:03:55 AM
I think my biggest issue with Predators is how they botched Fishburne's character.

He had so much potential, but ended up coming off as really silly.
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Post by: Highland on Jul 13, 2017, 04:40:33 AM
Quote from: HuDaFuK on Jul 12, 2017, 10:03:55 AM
I think my biggest issue with Predators is how they botched Fishburne's character.

He had so much potential, but ended up coming off as really silly.

Yeah, they should/could have just made him Dutch mark 2. If a small part was in order he could have sacrificed himself and took out a Pred....or they could have just missed that section out completely. I kind of liked the idea of an Alien mining ship though.

It felt like - "We got Fishburn! ok....write this piece in quick".

Still it doesn't take a big dump all over the lore, that's one thing the Predator movies got right. Adding onto the lore, not wiping over the top of it or blatantly ignoring established points. 
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Post by: Scorpio on Jul 13, 2017, 04:48:54 AM
It should've been Danny Glover or Arnold in that role. 
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Post by: Highland on Jul 13, 2017, 08:20:34 AM
Quote from: Scorpio on Jul 13, 2017, 04:48:54 AM
It should've been Danny Glover or Arnold in that role. 


I don't think it was so much the actor, fishburn is a fairly decent scalp even for Predator and a connection to the previous films wasn't particularly need. It was how they decided that character should be crazy. It was ballsy, so props for that, but it just didn't pay off.

Even then, you could have played the crazy angle if there was a bit more meaning to it. It felt like an entire act that could have easily been cut out.
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Post by: Huntsman on Jul 14, 2017, 03:16:42 PM
I used to dislike that scene as well. But now I don't have an issue with it.

It makes sense really and also makes a comment about who the predators really are. Fishburne didn't want to share resources or food because surviving on his own was hard enough. Scavenging their equipment though? Sure, he'd do that. He didn't see Royce and the others as companions, or even people. He saw them as an opportunity.

Royce will basically have to become what Fishburne became in order to survive as well.
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Post by: Alionic on Jul 26, 2017, 12:20:31 AM
I voted Predator for obvious reasons. However, I think Predator 2 and Predators are both almost as good as the first one. The Predator serious never had a solid misfire or disaster like Alien Resurrection IMO.
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Post by: Huntsman on Aug 06, 2017, 02:33:40 AM
Quote from: Alionic on Jul 26, 2017, 12:20:31 AM
The Predator serious never had a solid misfire or disaster like Alien Resurrection IMO.
I agree with that, even though I think Alien is the better series overall.
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Post by: GreybackElder on Sep 25, 2017, 12:08:22 AM
It's a tough one, but I've got to go with first Predator. It really worked on so many different levels. The buildup of suspense, the mystery of the predator itself was executed perfectly. Each character was so memorable! Each could easily been the lead in the film. There are also soooo many iconic scenes. The epic handshake, the preds eyes flashing and then the team mows down the jungle with the Minigun, the first reveal of the pred in the water, the BIG reveal at the end! All soooo great. For me it goes predator-predator 2- predators.
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Post by: Scorpio on Jun 11, 2018, 01:02:21 AM
I can't decide between Predator 1 and 2.  They are both equally great.  It's like Alien/Aliens or Robocop/Robocop 2 or Mad Max/The Road Warrior.
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Post by: Huggs on Jun 11, 2018, 04:35:46 AM
Predator 1 all the way. You could go on forever as to why, but the build up and delivery in that film was simply fantastic. Quick introduction and then we're moving with a great cast into a perfect location for this story. No extra baggage, no filler.

Like Alien 79, a group of folks out doing their job. Set upon by a monster that blends into the environment. And one by one, they get taken. No backup, no vehicles, no extra weapons and ammo in the trunk, no lab, no Gary Busey to explain exactly what they're dealing with.

Just the hunter, and its prey. Nothing more. It's still the only predator movie I can watch where I don't just see a yautja. It still feels like a vicious and ominous creature, more akin to the xenomorph. More scary, if you will.
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Post by: Brzrkr on Jun 13, 2018, 11:56:26 PM
PREDATOR 2

Love the L.A. setting and the imagery of the Predator in the city. The gang warfare, the heatwave and the whole nasty environment just oozes through the screen every time I watch it.
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Post by: OpenMaw on Jun 14, 2018, 01:51:26 AM
Quote from: Huggs on Jun 11, 2018, 04:35:46 AM
Predator 1 all the way. You could go on forever as to why, but the build up and delivery in that film was simply fantastic. Quick introduction and then we're moving with a great cast into a perfect location for this story. No extra baggage, no filler.

Like Alien 79, a group of folks out doing their job. Set upon by a monster that blends into the environment. And one by one, they get taken. No backup, no vehicles, no extra weapons and ammo in the trunk, no lab, no Gary Busey to explain exactly what they're dealing with.

Just the hunter, and its prey. Nothing more. It's still the only predator movie I can watch where I don't just see a yautja. It still feels like a vicious and ominous creature, more akin to the xenomorph. More scary, if you will.

Johnny Boy knew his craft, that's for sure.

Also, gotta give major props to the studio for being smart enough to say "Yeah, let's pause and fix the creature." They could very easily have said screw it and pushed the film out

Quote from: David 8 on Jun 13, 2018, 11:56:26 PM
PREDATOR 2

Love the L.A. setting and the imagery of the Predator in the city. The gang warfare, the heatwave and the whole nasty environment just oozes through the screen every time I watch it.

I can't argue with that. There's a lot of cheese in Predator 2, and I wish they had just left out the "in the near future" thing. It's not like Los Angeles isn't without huge crime and drug problems anyway.




I'd have to go with Predator. It strikes great balance in just about every regard. It is the perfect high watermark and quality popcorn film.
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Post by: KiramidHead on Jun 14, 2018, 01:55:19 AM
I like to justify the near future thing by pretending that Predator is in the same universe as Marked for Death, and that Seagal killing Screwface opened the door for King Willie and made the Jamaican gang problem much worse seven years down the line.
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Post by: Scorpio on Jun 14, 2018, 03:54:36 AM
They set Predator 2 in the near future so they wouldn't have to worry so much about realism.  Like how Predator is set in a fictional country.  That way they can just focus on the style and action.
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Post by: HuDaFuK on Jun 14, 2018, 08:15:27 AM
Quote from: KiramidHead on Jun 14, 2018, 01:55:19 AMI like to justify the near future thing by pretending that Predator is in the same universe as Marked for Death, and that Seagal killing Screwface opened the door for King Willie and made the Jamaican gang problem much worse seven years down the line.

:laugh:
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Post by: The Cruentus on Jun 14, 2018, 11:31:18 AM
Predator 1 for sure, its a classic. It has a few silly moments but otherwise its a darn good movie.
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Post by: KiramidHead on Jun 17, 2018, 12:32:13 AM
Quote from: HuDaFuK on Jun 14, 2018, 08:15:27 AM
Quote from: KiramidHead on Jun 14, 2018, 01:55:19 AMI like to justify the near future thing by pretending that Predator is in the same universe as Marked for Death, and that Seagal killing Screwface opened the door for King Willie and made the Jamaican gang problem much worse seven years down the line.

:laugh:

It makes sense, in a f**ked up kind of way. :laugh:
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Post by: Master Chief on Jun 18, 2018, 09:38:39 PM
Quote from: The Cruentus on Jun 14, 2018, 11:31:18 AM
Predator 1 for sure, its a classic. It has a few silly moments but otherwise its a darn good movie.
Which moments in Predator did you find silly?  You couldn't possibly be talking about the awesome one-liners like, "Knock Knock", "Stick around", "I ain't got time to bleed" etc. ;)
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Post by: BigDaddyJohn on Jun 19, 2018, 06:49:53 PM
Quote from: Master Chief on Jun 18, 2018, 09:38:39 PM
Quote from: The Cruentus on Jun 14, 2018, 11:31:18 AM
Predator 1 for sure, its a classic. It has a few silly moments but otherwise its a darn good movie.
Which moments in Predator did you find silly?  You couldn't possibly be talking about the awesome one-liners like, "Knock Knock", "Stick around", "I ain't got time to bleed" etc. ;)

Or maybe Dillon's severed arm still firing... I read some people comment about how it was funny or cheesy... Always adored that moment  ;)
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Post by: Master Chief on Jun 19, 2018, 07:18:20 PM
Quote from: BigDaddyJohn on Jun 19, 2018, 06:49:53 PM
Quote from: Master Chief on Jun 18, 2018, 09:38:39 PM
Quote from: The Cruentus on Jun 14, 2018, 11:31:18 AM
Predator 1 for sure, its a classic. It has a few silly moments but otherwise its a darn good movie.
Which moments in Predator did you find silly?  You couldn't possibly be talking about the awesome one-liners like, "Knock Knock", "Stick around", "I ain't got time to bleed" etc. ;)

Or maybe Dillon's severed arm still firing... I read some people comment about how it was funny or cheesy... Always adored that moment  ;)

haha looks real to me.

(https://uproxx.files.wordpress.com/2017/06/predator-carl-weathers-gif.gif?w=650)



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Post by: FiorinaFury161 on Jun 19, 2018, 09:14:42 PM
I can't think of any silly moments, only classic moments. ;)
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Post by: The Cruentus on Jun 21, 2018, 01:17:33 PM
The only thing I can think of is the Val Verde being used as a setting, which breaks immersion because its a fictional country and maybe the mud scene which while cool, I don't think it can actually hide your body heat.
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Post by: HuDaFuK on Jun 21, 2018, 02:35:32 PM
Quote from: The Cruentus on Jun 21, 2018, 01:17:33 PMthe mud scene which while cool, I don't think it can actually hide your body heat.

It might... for about thirty seconds, before your body warmed the mud to the same temperature as you lol.
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Post by: Master Chief on Jun 21, 2018, 03:21:19 PM
Quote from: HuDaFuK on Jun 21, 2018, 02:35:32 PM
Quote from: The Cruentus on Jun 21, 2018, 01:17:33 PMthe mud scene which while cool, I don't think it can actually hide your body heat.

It might... for about thirty seconds, before your body warmed the mud to the same temperature as you lol.
You're right! I remember watching this on MythBusters several years back and the mud theory was busted.
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Post by: TheLoneRanger on Jun 26, 2018, 04:34:58 AM
1) OG Pred (Instant Classic)
2) Pred 2 (Love It)
3) Predators (Meh)

AvP is horrendous, as is AvP:R.  But I did like Wolf.
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Post by: Huntsman on Sep 15, 2018, 04:50:11 AM
1. Predator
2. Predator 2
3. The Predator
4. Predators
5. AvP
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Post by: The Old One on Sep 15, 2018, 05:06:58 AM
Predator / Predator 2

The Predator / Predators
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Post by: Fugitive Predator on Sep 15, 2018, 01:46:41 PM
predator
predator 2
the predator
predators
avp
avp requiem
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Post by: The Old One on Sep 15, 2018, 01:58:54 PM
Agreed.
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Post by: Biomechanoid on Sep 15, 2018, 09:56:52 PM
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"But General, 9 out of 10 cabinet ministers agree that Predator 1987 is their favorite Predator movie."
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Post by: Huggs on Sep 16, 2018, 02:22:24 AM
Quote from: Biomechanoid on Sep 15, 2018, 09:56:52 PM
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"But General, 9 out of 10 cabinet ministers agree that Predator 1987 is their favorite Predator movie."

The tenth one's find themselves on...the wrong side of "da bwoorda".  ;D
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Post by: Huntsman on Sep 16, 2018, 09:24:47 AM
They'll never top the first two, much like Alien and Aliens. If only they made Predator 3 not long after Predator 2.
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Post by: The Old One on Sep 16, 2018, 09:44:01 AM
I don't think that's true, if Mad Max Fury Road can outdo the originals after 20 years of development hell so can a new Predator or Alien film.
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Post by: Huntsman on Sep 16, 2018, 10:17:24 AM
And yet after several sequels for each, it hasn't happened with the Predator and Alien franchises. I personally think the nostalgia level is too high.
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Post by: skull-splitter on Sep 16, 2018, 10:34:25 AM
Quote from: The Old One on Sep 16, 2018, 09:44:01 AM
I don't think that's true, if Mad Max Fury Road can outdo the originals after 20 years of development hell so can a new Predator or Alien film.
The difference being that that was a visionary film in which studio's didn't meddle to much.
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Post by: SiL on Sep 16, 2018, 10:49:35 AM
Or the fact it was the one guy in control the whole time and he matured and grew more skilled as a filmmaker and came back and demonstrated as such.

I love Mad Max Fury Road but it's such an outlier.
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Post by: The Old One on Sep 16, 2018, 11:25:08 AM
Oh I'm aware the circumstances were completely different.

I hope with the Alien prequels that third time's the charm.
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Post by: Biomechanoid on Sep 16, 2018, 11:15:04 PM
Quote from: Huggs on Sep 16, 2018, 02:22:24 AM
The tenth one's find themselves on...the wrong side of "da bwoorda".  ;D

:laugh: Arnold's accent is iconic in most of his films, but it's arguably the most iconic in Predator.

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Post by: Xhan on Sep 17, 2018, 12:09:33 AM
Quote from: SiL on Sep 16, 2018, 10:49:35 AM
Or the fact it was the one guy in control the whole time and he matured and grew more skilled as a filmmaker and came back and demonstrated as such.

This is not how Disney nor Fox work.
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Post by: Space_Dementia on Sep 27, 2018, 11:08:57 PM
Here's a video I done sharing my least to most favourite out of the Predator movies.

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Post by: Aliens1986fanboy on Sep 30, 2018, 10:32:23 AM
My favourite Predator movie is Predator 2 absolutely!
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Post by: Huntsman on Sep 30, 2018, 11:43:41 AM
Really? Who would have guessed.
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Post by: The Old One on Sep 30, 2018, 05:50:05 PM
Who doesn't love all those gadgets?

City Hunter accommodates.
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Post by: BigDaddyJohn on Oct 05, 2018, 01:07:13 PM
Exactly. Talking about expanding the lore in a smart way, predator 2 is a perfect example of that. And as for the Fury Road example, i couldn't agree more, and only wish it will happen one day.
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Post by: Kudzu on Oct 07, 2018, 09:14:25 AM
I have no idea where to put this

https://twitter.com/Reamkore/status/1048332545954402307
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Post by: Huntsman on Nov 26, 2018, 11:07:17 AM
Watched the movie again for the first time in a while last night.

What stuck out to me was how much I liked the militia compound sequence. Why?

The explosions are fantastic. Some of the best you'll see in an action movie. Really powerful and satisfying. And this works on a few levels. It shows the audience these soldiers are not to be f**ked with. They stomp their foes with ease, and nothing really bothers them in the heat of combat. So when they're expressing fear and concern later on, you know things are very serious. Also, I dig the knowledge that the Predator is watching everything unfold. He knows these are violent people.

Also a little comment - the opening scene with the helicopters flying into the jungle is underrated. Long Tall Sally creates a excitable, energetic feeling, and when the radio is turned off, the mood changes to business. Really effective edit. There's a lot to like about this film with things that don't even involve the title character.
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Post by: HuDaFuK on Nov 26, 2018, 11:20:46 AM
Quote from: Huntsman on Nov 26, 2018, 11:07:17 AMWhat stuck out to me was how much I liked the militia compound sequence. Why?

The explosions are fantastic. Some of the best you'll see in an action movie. Really powerful and satisfying. And this works on a few levels. It shows the audience these soldiers are not to be f**ked with. They stomp their foes with ease, and nothing really bothers them in the heat of combat. So when they're expressing fear and concern later on, you know things are very serious. Also, I dig the knowledge that the Predator is watching everything unfold. He knows these are violent people.

I've always thought that sequence to be a contender for best shootout ever put to screen in American cinema (there are Hong Kong films that blow it away, but I digress). It's five minutes of utter, glorious bedlam.
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Post by: The1PerfectOrganism on Jun 19, 2019, 12:15:06 PM
The first one.
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Post by: Corporal Hicks on Jun 21, 2019, 08:36:52 AM
Quote from: HuDaFuK on Nov 26, 2018, 11:20:46 AM
Quote from: Huntsman on Nov 26, 2018, 11:07:17 AMWhat stuck out to me was how much I liked the militia compound sequence. Why?

The explosions are fantastic. Some of the best you'll see in an action movie. Really powerful and satisfying. And this works on a few levels. It shows the audience these soldiers are not to be f**ked with. They stomp their foes with ease, and nothing really bothers them in the heat of combat. So when they're expressing fear and concern later on, you know things are very serious. Also, I dig the knowledge that the Predator is watching everything unfold. He knows these are violent people.

I've always thought that sequence to be a contender for best shootout ever put to screen in American cinema (there are Hong Kong films that blow it away, but I digress). It's five minutes of utter, glorious bedlam.

And IIRC it was one of the A-Team directors/cinematographers that shot that.
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Post by: Elmazalman on Jun 21, 2019, 11:27:39 AM
2nd unit director:

Spoiler
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Post by: SiL on Jun 21, 2019, 11:51:50 AM
Meanwhile McTiernan wasn't entirely happy with it, as it's a lot more static than how he shot the rest of the film (he wasn't allowed to film it for being such a new director). He mentioned one of the reasons he was happier with Die Hard was he got to direct everything, including the big action sequences.
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Post by: The1PerfectOrganism on Jun 21, 2019, 12:15:20 PM
Weird, but interesting.

Oh and Predator.
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Post by: SM on Jun 24, 2019, 11:21:06 AM
I just watched Predators again.  There's a few clunky bits (they were walking out in the open for ages and no one ever glimpsed the myriad planets overhead before the big reveal?) - but I like it better than Predator 2.
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Post by: Kradan on Jun 24, 2019, 02:26:11 PM
Predators is really good movie. That's all I have to say
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Post by: HuDaFuK on Jun 24, 2019, 03:07:28 PM
It's probably a tighter film than the second, but I still prefer Predator 2, and by some margin. Mostly because all the Predator stuff in the second film is so good (just look at how iconic some of the weaponry it introduced has become). The third didn't bring in anything especially memorable.
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Post by: Voodoo Magic on Jun 24, 2019, 03:52:29 PM
Quote from: HuDaFuK on Jun 24, 2019, 03:07:28 PM
It's probably a tighter film than the second, but I still prefer Predator 2, and by some margin. Mostly because all the Predator stuff in the second film is so good (just look at how iconic some of the weaponry it introduced has become). The third didn't bring in anything especially memorable.

My Man!

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Post by: 426Buddy on Jun 24, 2019, 04:02:46 PM
Predator is my favorite, then P2 right behind it.

Predators is okay, I love Brodys performance. But I don't care for the Super Preds or the suit performances. The Samurai showdown scene should have been great but the Predator came off as slow and clunky and the single forearm blade looks awkward to me.
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Post by: Voodoo Magic on Jun 24, 2019, 04:09:43 PM
Quote from: 426Buddy on Jun 24, 2019, 04:02:46 PM
Predator is my favorite, then P2 right behind it.

Yeaaah buddy!

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Post by: SM on Jun 24, 2019, 08:26:15 PM
Quote from: HuDaFuK on Jun 24, 2019, 03:07:28 PM
It's probably a tighter film than the second, but I still prefer Predator 2, and by some margin. Mostly because all the Predator stuff in the second film is so good (just look at how iconic some of the weaponry it introduced has become). The third didn't bring in anything especially memorable.

I think Predator 2 has a bit too much cheez, and is dated in a way the first and third aren't.
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Post by: HuDaFuK on Jun 24, 2019, 08:42:23 PM
That's all fair.

I still much prefer it to Predators though.
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Post by: Voodoo Magic on Jun 25, 2019, 12:09:37 AM
Dated? The movie takes place in the future! All the way to year 1997!

(https://i0.wp.com/geargods.net/wp-content/uploads/2016/04/9-predator2.gif)

;D
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Post by: Corporal Hicks on Jun 25, 2019, 05:48:30 AM
Quote from: SM on Jun 24, 2019, 08:26:15 PM
Quote from: HuDaFuK on Jun 24, 2019, 03:07:28 PM
It's probably a tighter film than the second, but I still prefer Predator 2, and by some margin. Mostly because all the Predator stuff in the second film is so good (just look at how iconic some of the weaponry it introduced has become). The third didn't bring in anything especially memorable.

I think Predator 2 has a bit too much cheez, and is dated in a way the first and third aren't.

I agree so strongly on both of those comments. It doesn't make me like the film any less, mind you, but I can't disagree with you at all there.
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Post by: Kradan on Jun 25, 2019, 05:49:29 AM
Diplomacy is Hicks' second nature  ;D
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Post by: Corporal Hicks on Jun 25, 2019, 05:55:35 AM
It's my speciality!

Spoiler
;)
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Title: Re: Favourite Predator Movie?
Post by: SiL on Jun 25, 2019, 06:05:30 AM
Predator 2 has the good grace to not treat me like a f**king moron for the entire first act, and for that alone will always surpass Predators.
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Post by: Corporal Hicks on Jun 25, 2019, 07:31:00 AM
I know you've said it before but I just never felt that.
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Post by: SiL on Jun 25, 2019, 07:35:26 AM
Having characters walking up to stuff and deliver unnecessary, heavy-handed expository dialogue every two minutes is not giving credit to the audience to watch the film and process even the most basic information themselves. Trejo's death is the most egregious example -- They come across a scene that looks like a trap. One of the characters demonstrates it's a trap. Great. Then another character explains that it's a trap, and how the trap is supposed to work, even though literally everything we just saw before he opened his mouth said it well enough visually.

I'm forever surprised they don't look at the planets and say "BUT THAT SHOULDN'T BE THERE? I GUESS WE AREN'T ON EARTH! GUYS, WE AREN'T ON EARTH, BECAUSE ON EARTH, ONLY THE MOON IS VISIBLE IN THE DAY, NOT OTHER PLANETS!"

f**king hate it honestly.
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Post by: Corporal Hicks on Jun 25, 2019, 07:38:02 AM
I admit that made me smile. I see your point. It's just not something that bothered me. I guess I'm just an idiot.  :laugh:
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Post by: SiL on Jun 25, 2019, 07:40:38 AM
Hey, I didn't say not being bothered by it made anyone an idiot  :laugh: Just that it feels like the film doesn't trust me to be able to understand its incredibly subtle, nuanced story of "people in a Predator movie get hunted."
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Post by: Kradan on Jun 25, 2019, 08:33:51 AM
Quote from: Corporal Hicks on Jun 25, 2019, 07:31:00 AM
I know you've said it before but I just never felt that.

Same.
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Post by: HuDaFuK on Jun 25, 2019, 08:37:12 AM
Yeah, of Predators' faults, that's never one I've found personally.

Mostly just hate that they squandered Fishburne's character so badly. What could so easily have been the best part of the movie became the worst.
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Post by: Kradan on Jun 25, 2019, 08:39:59 AM
I never felt that there was not enough of Noland in Predators. And I really enjoy what we got with him.
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Post by: HuDaFuK on Jun 25, 2019, 08:42:40 AM
It's not the screentime, it's that the character is wasted and Fishburne's performance is frankly kinda awful. There was so much potential there and the film completely blows it.

There's also the fact he's supposedly been alone, scavenging and fighting for his life on this planet for years and years, and yet he looks like a couch potato.
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Post by: SiL on Jun 25, 2019, 08:51:03 AM
It's the Brando effect ;D
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Post by: Kradan on Jun 25, 2019, 09:13:52 AM
Quote from: HuDaFuK on Jun 25, 2019, 08:42:40 AM
It's not the screentime, it's that the character is wasted and Fishburne's performance is frankly kinda awful. There was so much potential there and the film completely blows it.

There's also the fact he's supposedly been alone, scavenging and fighting for his life on this planet for years and years, and yet he looks like a couch potato.

'shrug'

Maybe if I took movies from such realistic perspective I would enjoy less number of them. The Predator, for instance  :)
Title: Re: Favourite Predator Movie?
Post by: HuDaFuK on Jun 25, 2019, 09:57:35 AM
I enjoy a silly movie as much as anyone. But Predators strikes me as a film that's trying to be mostly quite serious. In that context, Fishburne's character lacks believably.

Which wouldn't bother me so much, if I didn't see so much potential there for something new and interesting in the franchise.
Title: Re: Favourite Predator Movie?
Post by: SM on Jun 25, 2019, 10:24:10 AM
I didn't see any problems with Noland, though his hefty stature is a fair point.

I do love "You're in my house, motherf**ker!"  ;D
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Post by: Voodoo Magic on Jun 25, 2019, 12:45:45 PM
Quote from: HuDaFuK on Jun 25, 2019, 08:42:40 AM
There's also the fact he's supposedly been alone, scavenging and fighting for his life on this planet for years and years, and yet he looks like a couch potato.

River Ghost Stew is apparently extremely fatty.

My problem with Predators other than its blatant retreads of the first film is it doesn't do anything particularly well.

It's not horrible, it's not wonderful, it's just plainly competent which makes nothing in it memorable . The action, the direction, the effects, the dialogue, the characters, the acting, the cinematography, the score, nothing stands out on it's own and makes its mark... where Predator 2 does that often in multiple categories.

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Title: Re: Favourite Predator Movie?
Post by: The Old One on Jun 25, 2019, 01:15:22 PM
Yeah. The original Predator is the best, but-

If you're talking pure entertainment value; I definitely prefer Predator 2 honestly.
Title: Re: Favourite Predator Movie?
Post by: HuDaFuK on Jun 25, 2019, 02:20:23 PM
Predator 2 is undeniably up-and-down. Predators is more consistent but never does anything half as good as the scene with King Willie and the City Hunter.

Ultimately I can forgive the second movie its faults because the bits I do love are just so f*cking good.

Plus Bill Paxton. Automatic +5 points.

But it's definitely one of those cases where someone disagreeing with me is entirely valid.
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Post by: TheSailingRabbit on Jun 25, 2019, 02:30:34 PM
Quote from: HuDaFuK on Jun 25, 2019, 02:20:23 PM
Plus Bill Paxton. Automatic +5 points.

+5000 points.

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Title: Re: Favourite Predator Movie?
Post by: Voodoo Magic on Jun 25, 2019, 03:43:13 PM
Quote from: The Old One on Jun 25, 2019, 01:15:22 PM
Yeah. The original Predator is the best, but-

If you're talking pure entertainment value; I definitely prefer Predator 2 honestly.

(https://media1.tenor.com/images/284b79d673285b15feb7cc82e81493d2/tenor.gif?itemid=4664282)
Title: Re: Favourite Predator Movie?
Post by: Huggs on Jun 25, 2019, 03:47:45 PM
Predator 1.

Predator 2 and Predators are duking it out to see who gets to crap on the Predator, and who gets to feed it to it.
Title: Re: Favourite Predator Movie?
Post by: Voodoo Magic on Jun 25, 2019, 04:27:45 PM
Quote from: Huggs on Jun 25, 2019, 03:47:45 PM
Predator 1.

Predator 2 and Predators are duking it out to see who gets to crap on the Predator, and who gets to feed it to it.

(https://media1.giphy.com/media/wLbUyMWlFQic0/giphy.gif)
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Post by: Huggs on Jun 25, 2019, 04:36:52 PM
Quote from: Voodoo Magic on Jun 25, 2019, 04:27:45 PM
Quote from: Huggs on Jun 25, 2019, 03:47:45 PM
Predator 1.

Predator 2 and Predators are duking it out to see who gets to crap on the Predator, and who gets to feed it to it.

(https://media1.giphy.com/media/wLbUyMWlFQic0/giphy.gif)

I am most certainly not.
(https://2.bp.blogspot.com/-5FWqfgFTxSc/UZveqO24-aI/AAAAAAAADWA/nUXbR5g-bLg/s1600/Martin+tin+foil+knight.jpg)
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Post by: Voodoo Magic on Jun 25, 2019, 04:52:57 PM
Quote from: Huggs on Jun 25, 2019, 04:36:52 PM
Quote from: Voodoo Magic on Jun 25, 2019, 04:27:45 PM
Quote from: Huggs on Jun 25, 2019, 03:47:45 PM
Predator 1.

Predator 2 and Predators are duking it out to see who gets to crap on the Predator, and who gets to feed it to it.

(https://media1.giphy.com/media/wLbUyMWlFQic0/giphy.gif)

I am most certainly not.
(https://2.bp.blogspot.com/-5FWqfgFTxSc/UZveqO24-aI/AAAAAAAADWA/nUXbR5g-bLg/s1600/Martin+tin+foil+knight.jpg)

Your attention to detail is stunning. It's like I'm transported back in time to the 700's!

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Post by: Huggs on Jun 25, 2019, 05:10:10 PM
Quote from: Voodoo Magic on Jun 25, 2019, 04:52:57 PM
Quote from: Huggs on Jun 25, 2019, 04:36:52 PM
Quote from: Voodoo Magic on Jun 25, 2019, 04:27:45 PM
Quote from: Huggs on Jun 25, 2019, 03:47:45 PM
Predator 1.

Predator 2 and Predators are duking it out to see who gets to crap on the Predator, and who gets to feed it to it.

(https://media1.giphy.com/media/wLbUyMWlFQic0/giphy.gif)

I am most certainly not.
(https://2.bp.blogspot.com/-5FWqfgFTxSc/UZveqO24-aI/AAAAAAAADWA/nUXbR5g-bLg/s1600/Martin+tin+foil+knight.jpg)

Your attention to detail is stunning. It's like I'm transported back in time to the 700's!

(https://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2F66.media.tumblr.com%2Fbf07139e0007c5a3fe11d953232408d5%2Ftumblr_mtif89dlFr1rtpvcro1_500.gif&hash=9adbfd2fed53bc14e753392e5d533939c13b9e21)

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That ain't me, by the way.
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Title: Re: Favourite Predator Movie?
Post by: Kradan on Jun 25, 2019, 05:57:59 PM
Quote from: Voodoo Magic on Jun 25, 2019, 03:43:13 PM
Quote from: The Old One on Jun 25, 2019, 01:15:22 PM
Yeah. The original Predator is the best, but-

If you're talking pure entertainment value; I definitely prefer Predator 2 honestly.

(https://media1.tenor.com/images/284b79d673285b15feb7cc82e81493d2/tenor.gif?itemid=4664282)

Are you recruting army of Gifland with these images?
Title: Re: Favourite Predator Movie?
Post by: HuDaFuK on Jun 25, 2019, 09:08:20 PM
Quote from: Huggs on Jun 25, 2019, 05:10:10 PMThat ain't me, by the way.

Obviously.

It's Ridley pitching his Gladiator sequel.
Title: Re: Favourite Predator Movie?
Post by: KiramidHead on Jun 25, 2019, 09:38:56 PM
Quote from: HuDaFuK on Jun 25, 2019, 09:08:20 PM
Quote from: Huggs on Jun 25, 2019, 05:10:10 PMThat ain't me, by the way.

Obviously.

It's Ridley pitching his Gladiator sequel.

"Well we're going to brick Russell back... did I mention I've directed 10,000 TV commercials?"
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Post by: [cancerblack] on Jul 30, 2019, 09:34:44 PM
Quote from: Fiendishly Inventive on Jun 25, 2019, 01:15:22 PM
Yeah. The original Predator is the best, but-

If you're talking pure entertainment value; I definitely prefer Predator 2 honestly.



This. Can't really beat the original, but I certainly haven't rewatched it anywhere near as many times as P2.
Title: Re: Favourite Predator Movie?
Post by: Voodoo Magic on Jul 30, 2019, 10:28:50 PM
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Title: Re: Favourite Predator Movie?
Post by: Allan Yelpir on Oct 23, 2019, 10:06:55 PM
a) Predator
b) Predators
c) Predator 2

.. considering Mr. Antal's movie as logical consequence to 'Predator': now opposing roles .. .. uhm .. No! There're no opposing roles, thinking aloud .. only the hunting territory widened.

And a very surprising anti typecasting for Adrian Brody. Even many may say he doesn't fit his character. For me he does perfectly!

Btw regarding 'Predator 2': is there any explanation from cast or crew at that time why they put an Alien skull up that wall?
Title: Re: Favourite Predator Movie?
Post by: Voodoo Magic on Oct 23, 2019, 10:39:39 PM
Quote from: Allan Yelpir on Oct 23, 2019, 10:06:55 PM
Btw regarding 'Predator 2': is there any explanation from cast or crew at that time why they put an Alien skull up that wall?

There's no elaborate explanation really. Basically, they thought it would be cool.  ;D
Title: Re: Favourite Predator Movie?
Post by: Samhain13 on Oct 23, 2019, 10:48:47 PM
I think the first AVP comic was released before Predator 2. Could be a reference to that.
Title: Re: Favourite Predator Movie?
Post by: [cancerblack] on Oct 24, 2019, 12:19:20 AM
Predator 2: Loud, stupid and an absolute joy to watch.
Title: Re: Favourite Predator Movie?
Post by: Kradan on Oct 24, 2019, 12:28:52 AM
WEEEE !

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Title: Re: Favourite Predator Movie?
Post by: Voodoo Magic on Oct 24, 2019, 12:37:12 AM
Quote from: Samhain13 on Oct 23, 2019, 10:48:47 PM
I think the first AVP comic was released before Predator 2. Could be a reference to that.

I remember John Thomas basically taking credit for that scene inspiring the AVP comics. 

Oops. :laugh:

Quote from: [cancerblack] on Oct 24, 2019, 12:19:20 AM
Predator 2: Loud, stupid and an absolute joy to watch.

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Title: Re: Favourite Predator Movie?
Post by: SiL on Oct 24, 2019, 05:37:06 AM
Quote from: Samhain13 on Oct 23, 2019, 10:48:47 PM
I think the first AVP comic was released before Predator 2. Could be a reference to that.
99% sure one of the Stan Winston crew said that was it. The comic was running during the production of P2 so they threw it in as a little nod.
Title: Re: Favourite Predator Movie?
Post by: Allan Yelpir on Oct 24, 2019, 06:53:54 AM
.. every day a little smarter .. Thank y'all!   :)
Title: Re: Favourite Predator Movie?
Post by: HuDaFuK on Oct 24, 2019, 08:36:39 AM
Quote from: SiL on Oct 24, 2019, 05:37:06 AM99% sure one of the Stan Winston crew said that was it. The comic was running during the production of P2 so they threw it in as a little nod.

Basically this. They mention it in the Hunters and Hunted making-of doc.
Title: Re: Favourite Predator Movie?
Post by: The Old One on Oct 24, 2019, 10:40:16 AM
Yeah, definitely.
Title: Re: Favourite Predator Movie?
Post by: Voodoo Magic on Oct 24, 2019, 11:06:44 AM
Quote from: HuDaFuK on Oct 24, 2019, 08:36:39 AM
Quote from: SiL on Oct 24, 2019, 05:37:06 AM99% sure one of the Stan Winston crew said that was it. The comic was running during the production of P2 so they threw it in as a little nod.

Basically this. They mention it in the Hunters and Hunted making-of doc.

Sorry, thought the nod to the AvP comic was obvious. But they did it basically because they thought it would be cool. No deeper meaning.

Who gets the credit for the idea depends on who you ask. John Rosengrant says it was himself and Shane Mahan.  Stephen Hopkins credits Stan Winston in the doc. And John Thomas suggests it was a "we" effort in his commentary, without defining we.

What do I believe? That it was neither Stan Winston nor John Rosengrant and Shane Mahan that originally came up with the Alien Skull idea, because the Alien skull was in the film's storyboards long before, seemingly like a throw-away fun cartoon doodle.

Fun fact. The director Spider-Man Into the Spider-verse drew many of the Predator 2 storyboards, so it could have been him.  :)
Title: Re: Favourite Predator Movie?
Post by: Kradan on Oct 24, 2019, 11:11:08 AM
Quote from: Voodoo Magic on Oct 24, 2019, 11:06:44 AM

What do I believe? That it was neither Stan Winston nor John Rosengrant and Shane Mahan that originally came up with the Alien Skull idea, because the Alien skull was in the film's storyboards long before, seemingly like a throw-away fun cartoon doodle.


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Title: Re: Favourite Predator Movie?
Post by: SiL on Oct 24, 2019, 11:27:34 AM
Quote from: Voodoo Magic on Oct 24, 2019, 11:06:44 AM
What do I believe? That it was neither Stan Winston nor John Rosengrant and Shane Mahan that originally came up with the Alien Skull idea, because the Alien skull was in the film's storyboards long before, seemingly like a throw-away fun cartoon doodle.
How long before Stan Winston's team came on board were the storyboards done? I would've thought they were working around the same time.
Title: Re: Favourite Predator Movie?
Post by: Voodoo Magic on Oct 24, 2019, 02:47:28 PM
Quote from: Kradan on Oct 24, 2019, 11:11:08 AM
Quote from: Voodoo Magic on Oct 24, 2019, 11:06:44 AM

What do I believe? That it was neither Stan Winston nor John Rosengrant and Shane Mahan that originally came up with the Alien Skull idea, because the Alien skull was in the film's storyboards long before, seemingly like a throw-away fun cartoon doodle.


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Your wish is my command!  :)

Check out the third panel.

(https://i.ibb.co/XYkczmp/IMG-20191024-100739.jpg)

Quote from: SiL on Oct 24, 2019, 11:27:34 AM
Quote from: Voodoo Magic on Oct 24, 2019, 11:06:44 AM
What do I believe? That it was neither Stan Winston nor John Rosengrant and Shane Mahan that originally came up with the Alien Skull idea, because the Alien skull was in the film's storyboards long before, seemingly like a throw-away fun cartoon doodle.
How long before Stan Winston's team came on board were the storyboards done? I would've thought they were working around the same time.

If my memory is serving me correctly, Stan Winston got the job in December of 1989.

There were three wave of storyboards that I know of. The first phase featured a white caucasian Mike Harrigan, second featured additions with an African-American Mike Harrigan, and then Revisions.

Director Stephen Hopkins came on in the Summer of 1989 and said they started storyboarding Predator 2 before a completed script, and even storyboarded scenes before they were actually written in the script.  The first draft was completed in October 1989. The storyboard above appears to be part of that first storyboard wave. That's where my personal belief is rooted from.

What's frustrating with Predator and Predator 2 is so much supplemental reported history has conflicting facts, omissions and half-truths. Like the work of Robert Short's team, and their creation of Predator mandibles turns into a James Cameron idea on a flight?  Or the comic Concrete Jungle Issue #1, which was a heavy, heavy inspiration for Predator 2, isn't even mentioned in the story process?  Yep, to anyone who wants to learn about the history, it's frustrating to be unsure what to believe.  :-\
Title: Re: Favourite Predator Movie?
Post by: Kradan on Oct 24, 2019, 06:57:48 PM
Thanks, Voodoo  ;)
Title: Re: Favourite Predator Movie?
Post by: Voodoo Magic on Oct 24, 2019, 09:52:46 PM
You're quite welcome!   :)
Title: Re: Favourite Predator Movie?
Post by: SiL on Oct 25, 2019, 01:31:38 AM
If the storyboards and script were done simultaneously, it's possible it came from a suggestion by the Thomas brothers?

Ow.

You're right though, it is a mess trying to figure out what's what.
Title: Re: Favourite Predator Movie?
Post by: Voodoo Magic on Oct 25, 2019, 02:39:38 AM
Quote from: SiL on Oct 25, 2019, 01:31:38 AM
If the storyboards and script were done simultaneously, it's possible it came from a suggestion by the Thomas brothers?

Maybe, right?  Or maybe it was Joel Silver?  He was the admitted comic book fan, friendly with the folks at Dark Horse and met with Mark Verheiden to discuss ideas for Predator 2. Perhaps Joel was shown a glimpse of what was in the works, i.e. AvP via Dark Horse Presents and suggested it?

QuoteYou're right though, it is a mess trying to figure out what's what.

Indeed!
Title: Re: Favourite Predator Movie?
Post by: Biomechanoid on Oct 26, 2019, 01:36:08 PM
When I'm struggling to sleep, sometimes i play Predator 87 in hopes it will put me to sleep. I'm not saying that to be a smart ass. I know the film so well, the audio cues allow me to visualize the scenes while my eyes are closed. A couple scenes or so later, I drift to sleep.

I've also used Alien 79 and Star wars 77 to promote sleep.
Title: Re: Favourite Predator Movie?
Post by: Kradan on Oct 27, 2019, 08:44:15 AM
I have all Alien, Predator and AvP movies in audio format and like to listen them accidentally .

And you're right - it really makes your eyes close and consciousness fade.
Title: Re: Favourite Predator Movie?
Post by: Voodoo Magic on Oct 27, 2019, 01:16:32 PM
Quote from: Kradan on Oct 27, 2019, 08:44:15 AM
I have all Alien, Predator and AvP movies in audio format and like to listen them accidentally .

And you're right - it really makes your eyes close and consciousness fade.

Just audio of the entire films? Huh. That, might be interesting to experience.
Title: Re: Favourite Predator Movie?
Post by: Kradan on Oct 27, 2019, 01:39:38 PM
It works perfectly with movies you've seen many MANY times ( P2 for you, I guess ) . You can listen walking somewhere or doing something .

Btw, it was my dad idea actually . He was just looking for a way to fit all of his favourite films in his mobile phone .
Title: Re: Favourite Predator Movie?
Post by: Voodoo Magic on Oct 27, 2019, 03:59:49 PM
Quote from: Kradan on Oct 27, 2019, 01:39:38 PM
It works perfectly with movies you've seen many MANY times ( P2 for you, I guess ) . You can listen walking somewhere or doing something .

Wait. You think I love Predator 2? 

(https://66.media.tumblr.com/64352324ad3cd1dd024ec53f1fdf2813/tumblr_pahhahuDGy1se0jzho1_500.gif)

Has it been that obvious?  ;)

QuoteBtw, it was my dad idea actually . He was just looking for a way to fit all of his favourite films in his mobile phone .

Out of curiosity, what's your Dad's favorite films?
Title: Re: Favourite Predator Movie?
Post by: Biomechanoid on Oct 27, 2019, 04:26:09 PM
Quote from: Kradan on Oct 27, 2019, 08:44:15 AM
I have all Alien, Predator and AvP movies in audio format and like to listen them accidentally .

And you're right - it really makes your eyes close and consciousness fade.

I've tried the YouTube sleep music videos, sometimes they work, but not as well as movies I've seen countless times.

I had taken early retirement a few years ago and would easily sleep whenever it strikes me. But recently I came out of retirement and have a whacky work schedule. I'm really struggling with establishing a consistent sleep pattern.

There's just something about "This cabinet minister, does he always travel on the wrong side of the border?", And other lines that accelerates me to dream world.
Title: Re: Favourite Predator Movie?
Post by: Corporal Hicks on Oct 28, 2019, 09:55:43 AM
Quote from: Biomechanoid on Oct 26, 2019, 01:36:08 PM
When I'm struggling to sleep, sometimes i play Predator 87 in hopes it will put me to sleep. I'm not saying that to be a smart ass. I know the film so well, the audio cues allow me to visualize the scenes while my eyes are closed. A couple scenes or so later, I drift to sleep.

I've also used Alien 79 and Star wars 77 to promote sleep.

I used to do the same with Aliens. I do like the idea of just listening to the film though!
Title: Re: Favourite Predator Movie?
Post by: The Old One on Oct 28, 2019, 11:59:02 AM
Interesting, never thought of that myself.
Title: Re: Favourite Predator Movie?
Post by: Kradan on Oct 28, 2019, 06:04:59 PM
It's so simple but I would never come up with such idea myself .
Title: Re: Favourite Predator Movie?
Post by: Xiggz456 on Oct 28, 2019, 08:08:29 PM
Quote from: Corporal Hicks on Oct 28, 2019, 09:55:43 AM
Quote from: Biomechanoid on Oct 26, 2019, 01:36:08 PM
When I'm struggling to sleep, sometimes i play Predator 87 in hopes it will put me to sleep. I'm not saying that to be a smart ass. I know the film so well, the audio cues allow me to visualize the scenes while my eyes are closed. A couple scenes or so later, I drift to sleep.

I've also used Alien 79 and Star wars 77 to promote sleep.

I used to do the same with Aliens. I do like the idea of just listening to the film though!

I do this with all Alien, Predator and Star wars. It gives my brain something to focus on so I don't keep myself awake thinking about literally everything. They're my lullabies lol
Title: Re: Favourite Predator Movie?
Post by: [cancerblack] on Oct 28, 2019, 09:17:25 PM
For me it's old episodes of The Simpsons (not just audio though). I've seen them all so many times I'm usually crashed out 5 minutes in.
Title: Re: Favourite Predator Movie?
Post by: Biomechanoid on Oct 29, 2019, 03:53:54 AM
Quote from: Fiendishly Inventive on Oct 28, 2019, 11:59:02 AM
Interesting, never thought of that myself.

If you're ever struggling for sleep or just want to cram in a nap mid-day, Fiendish, you should try it. Pick a movie you replayed so many times you can visualize the scenes just from listening to the audio. Not saying it works for everyone, but worth a shot.

Quote from: Xiggz456 on Oct 28, 2019, 08:08:29 PM
I do this with all Alien, Predator and Star wars.

I think I have probably used Star Wars 77 the most, but do mix it up with Alien 79 and Predator 87.

Quote from: Xiggz456 on Oct 28, 2019, 08:08:29 PM
It gives my brain something to focus on so I don't keep myself awake thinking about literally everything. They're my lullabies lol

Yes exactly, trying to drift off in complete silence, my mind dwells on tasks/chores I did recently, then on to tasks/chores I need to do and I get caught up in a vicious loop, not allowing myself to relax mentally. I had read some articles on sleep and one suggested to think about nothing. Not as easy as it sounds.  Your mind eventually grasps onto a topic, for lack of a better description. But a familiar movie is like a bedtime story....or as you mention.... a lullaby.
Title: Re: Favourite Predator Movie?
Post by: [cancerblack] on Oct 29, 2019, 08:59:58 AM
I heard some shit about some people who wanted the thread to be on-topic, and there was only one way to deliver:

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Title: Re: Favourite Predator Movie?
Post by: Kradan on Oct 29, 2019, 09:09:04 AM
Well, isn't you the one who helped to turn " How to determine whether a xenomorph or predator would win in a fight " into  " Starship Troopers' Memes and Gifs Thread " ?

Quote from: [cancerblack] on Oct 29, 2019, 08:57:04 AM
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Title: Re: Favourite Predator Movie?
Post by: [cancerblack] on Oct 29, 2019, 09:15:40 AM
Quote from: Kradan on Oct 29, 2019, 09:09:04 AM
Well, isn't you the one who helped to turn " How to determine whether a xenomorph or predator would win in a fight " into  " Starship Troopers' Memes and Gifs Thread " ?

Quote from: [cancerblack] on Oct 29, 2019, 08:57:04 AM
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I certainly contributed but I didn't start it. What are you trying to prove homie?
Title: Re: Favourite Predator Movie?
Post by: Kradan on Oct 29, 2019, 09:20:58 AM
Nothing at all. Just an interesting observation
Title: Re: Favourite Predator Movie?
Post by: [cancerblack] on Oct 29, 2019, 09:24:30 AM
Why not go stir up some conversation about the HL/Portal universe in the game section, друг? We'll all enjoy ourselves a lot more. :)
Title: Re: Favourite Predator Movie?
Post by: The Old One on Oct 31, 2019, 12:34:05 PM
Yeah, that's an idea.
Title: Re: Favourite Predator Movie?
Post by: Brazilianyautja on Jan 27, 2020, 10:23:58 PM
The first predator movie is a sci fi action masterpiece. His only mistake is not devepolped the predator mythology very well like the sequels do
Title: Re: Favourite Predator Movie?
Post by: The Cruentus on Jan 29, 2020, 12:42:17 PM
I would argue the developed mythology harmed the predator, in first two films, the predator is a hunter who enjoys hunting and killing its favorite sport, humans. No grand reason, it just likes like to hunt humans for sport.

Later media will have them as honorable with lots of codes which they didn't really have before.

They are sporting maybe, but honor might be too much.

Then you got latest movie that now says they don't hunt for fun but for dna to enhance themselves, even though dna doesn't work that way.
Title: Re: Favourite Predator Movie?
Post by: Voodoo Magic on Jan 29, 2020, 01:18:17 PM
Quote from: The Cruentus on Jan 29, 2020, 12:42:17 PM
I would argue the developed mythology harmed the predator, in first two films, the predator is a hunter who enjoys hunting and killing its favorite sport, humans. No grand reason, it just likes like to hunt humans for sport.

Later media will have them as honorable with lots of codes which they didn't really have before.

According to the Thomas brothers, they always had the codes of the sports hunter... but they didn't have the framework to delve more until the second film. It wasn't an afterthought.

QuoteThey are sporting maybe, but honor might be too much.

Sporting maybe? Sporting definitely. And as with most honorable hunters they respect their prey and adhere to codes and rules. The Thomas Brothers knew exactly what they were doing. It was a turning of the tables. There's no sadistic monsters in the mirrors of Predators, just sports hunters hunting for trophies, which is sadistic to us because they are hunting and killing us!
Title: Re: Favourite Predator Movie?
Post by: Master Chief on Jan 31, 2020, 03:08:39 PM
Quote from: Voodoo Magic on Jan 29, 2020, 01:18:17 PM
(...)There's no sadistic monsters in the mirrors of Predators, just sports hunters hunting for trophies, which is sadistic to us because they are hunting and killing us!
I bet there are protesting predators back at their home planet holding signs that read "Humans have feelings too!"  ;D I would imagine they cheer when they find out a human killed the hunter.
Title: Re: Favourite Predator Movie?
Post by: Phobos on Mar 16, 2020, 10:29:38 PM
The original Predator is the entry level and it has the best casting. Predator 2 is underrated imo. No movie can eclipse the first one, but the ending gave us a glimpse into the Predators culture and society. The 1st is better but I genuinely love Predator 2. It's based off Concrete Jungle with neat weapons and I like City Hunter.
Title: Re: Favourite Predator Movie?
Post by: The Old One on Mar 29, 2020, 02:22:38 PM
Oh yeah definitely I love it.
Title: Re: Favourite Predator Movie?
Post by: Kradan on Mar 29, 2020, 05:22:26 PM
♪ ♫ Predator 2, Predator 2, Predator 2 - the best of aaaaall ! Want some candy, shit happens, who's next, f**king Voodoo Magic, maaaaaaaaaaaaan ♫ ♪

Wanna hear that again ? ♪ ♫  PRE-DA-TOR 22222222222222222222222222222222 ♫ ♪

Spoiler
(https://i.gifer.com/MwlO.gif)
[close]
Title: Re: Favourite Predator Movie?
Post by: Voodoo Magic on Mar 30, 2020, 02:58:12 PM
Quote from: Kradan on Mar 29, 2020, 05:22:26 PM
♪ ♫ Predator 2, Predator 2, Predator 2 - the best of aaaaall ! Want some candy, shit happens, who's next, f**king Voodoo Magic, maaaaaaaaaaaaan ♫ ♪

Wanna hear that again ? ♪ ♫  PRE-DA-TOR 22222222222222222222222222222222 ♫ ♪

Spoiler
(https://i.gifer.com/MwlO.gif)
[close]

(https://i.imgur.com/boyRiZp.gif?noredirect)
Title: Re: Favourite Predator Movie?
Post by: Kradan on Mar 31, 2020, 06:07:46 PM
Ok, I figured this out. I say how great Predator 2 is, you give me a pistol. Couple of times and I can open antique store. We all benefit.
Title: Re: Favourite Predator Movie?
Post by: Voodoo Magic on Mar 31, 2020, 11:02:05 PM
(https://media.giphy.com/media/tsgNNs93oIbwk/giphy.gif)
Title: Re: Favourite Predator Movie?
Post by: Kradan on Apr 03, 2020, 08:35:33 AM
How great Predator 2 is
Title: Re: Favourite Predator Movie?
Post by: Galactus123 on Apr 15, 2020, 07:30:49 PM
The first movie is the best. Predator 2 is nowhere near as good but its still a great movie. I like Predators too.
Title: Re: Favourite Predator Movie?
Post by: Janek on May 30, 2020, 11:39:16 PM
Although Predator is clearly the best movie of the lot I still enjoy Predator 2 just as much, it's such an underrated movie. Predators is a capable addition to the franchise and I find it entertaining and the additions to the lore we get in the film is great.

Haven't seen The Predator yet, after all the bad reviews I didn't dare to watch it.
Title: Re: Favourite Predator Movie?
Post by: Voodoo Magic on Jun 01, 2020, 12:01:08 PM
Quote from: Janek on May 30, 2020, 11:39:16 PM
Although Predator is clearly the best movie of the lot I still enjoy Predator 2 just as much, it's such an underrated movie.


(https://i.imgur.com/boyRiZp.gif)
Title: Re: Favourite Predator Movie?
Post by: [cancerblack] on Jun 03, 2020, 05:48:47 AM
Quote from: Janek on May 30, 2020, 11:39:16 PM
Haven't seen The Predator yet, after all the bad reviews I didn't dare to watch it.

Was in the same position. It's utter bollocks but if you go in assuming the worst you might end up both angry and mildly entertained.
Title: Re: Favourite Predator Movie?
Post by: Lionhart on Jun 03, 2020, 06:45:12 AM
Favorite movie - Predator One
Favorite Predator - City Hunter
Title: Re: Favourite Predator Movie?
Post by: FatStu on Aug 09, 2020, 10:53:22 PM
Easily the first one. I'm quite fond of the second one too. Not such a fan of the third and fourth.
Title: Re: Favourite Predator Movie?
Post by: Tichinde on Aug 10, 2020, 06:56:56 AM
the raw testosterone from the first movie is unbeatable. Then the alien just beats everyone so easily. Ive heard some people say he cheated, but Hoppers team was all taken out in one swoop firing in all directions. They were skinned and hung a sign they weren't worthy as trophies. I always got the impression the Pred was just weary of this new team and played it smart. The only kill that was "cheap" for me was Blain, but what are ya gonna do? Confront the huge guy with a mini gun head to head and expose yourself so early? Anyway, off topic. I love the first movie. Second one really sucks imho, I know people disagree but if I could describe what's wrong with P2 it's the scene on the subway with the random civilians even the old lady all having firearms. I get it's like an almost apocalyptic future, but it's still so silly. What I will give credit to P2 for and what makes up for the whole movie is the ending scene which indirectly introduced ranks, culture, and of course Xenomorphs to the universe which is pretty damn cool.

Predators is a good film, worthy successor to the predator, just very boring and the characters aren't as tough or likeable. It also bothers me how in my face it was they were trying to say "THESE NEW ONES ARE BETTER!" with the classic v berserker fight, just felt cheap like they were murdering my childhood to make a point.

Same problem goes for The Predator, except this time I appreciate the original pred got to do some pretty cool shit before he died, plus the return of the shurikien was a nice little nod.
Title: Re: Favourite Predator Movie?
Post by: FatStu on Aug 13, 2020, 11:51:05 PM
There's a lot more going on in Predator 2 than it gets given credit for.
Title: Re: Favourite Predator Movie?
Post by: Voodoo Magic on Aug 13, 2020, 11:52:44 PM
Quote from: FatStu on Aug 13, 2020, 11:51:05 PM
There's a lot more going on in Predator 2 than it gets given credit for.

My man...

(https://i.imgur.com/boyRiZp.gif)
Title: Re: Favourite Predator Movie?
Post by: Tichinde on Aug 14, 2020, 04:08:51 AM
Voodoo, that scene alone is what makes it worth watching lol. Like I would sit through an hour of alien ressurection just to see that ending scene with the elder
Title: Re: Favourite Predator Movie?
Post by: Kradan on Aug 14, 2020, 05:40:04 AM
Pffft. I'm sure Voodoo would watch AVPR 3 times non-stop just to see that scene
Title: Re: Favourite Predator Movie?
Post by: Tichinde on Aug 14, 2020, 07:28:08 AM
Quote from: Kradan on Aug 14, 2020, 05:40:04 AM
Pffft. I'm sure Voodoo would watch AVPR 3 times non-stop just to see that scene

One hour of Alien Res. is worse. At least in AVPR you can appreciated the sewer fight and the wolf's intro, you get a few cool moments. With res. It's all just hyper sexual femdom clone ripley being creepy as hell and Xenomorphs being underpowered and random. Then you get to the newborn... the goddamn newborn. Say what you want about the predalien design, or the A: R xenos from AVP, Alien's greatest atrocity has to be that sack of sourmilk flesh that beats the snot out of the queen and then comes to mama. Serious, I felt like I was watching a kids movie, what the f**k is that thing *shudders*
Title: Re: Favourite Predator Movie?
Post by: Kradan on Aug 14, 2020, 07:32:57 AM
Quote from: Tichinde on Aug 14, 2020, 07:28:08 AM
With res ... Xenomorphs being underpowered and random

(https://i.imgur.com/qQQwe.gif)
Title: Re: Favourite Predator Movie?
Post by: HuDaFuK on Aug 14, 2020, 08:21:48 AM
Quote from: Tichinde on Aug 14, 2020, 07:28:08 AMOne hour of Alien Res. is worse. At least in AVPR you can appreciated the sewer fight and the wolf's intro, you get a few cool moments.

Nah.

Other than the score and the design of Wolf, Requiem is universally terrible. The cast, the plot, the dialogue, the characters, the f**king lighting - all terrible. Also, what were they thinking setting it in the middle of a tweeny drama? Who thought that was the best foundation to build an AVP movie on? It's like an episode of Dawson's Creek but with stupid hyper-violence, as if the directors believed excessive gore was the only reason people liked the classic Alien and Predator movies, and smothering the movie in it would cover up all its ineptitude. Well, it didn't, it just made it look more desperate.

Resurrection may have angled for completely the wrong genre, but it's at least competent at what it's trying to be. I get that a lot of people didn't like what it was trying to be, but if nothing else it's competently made. Taken on its own terms, it's a really good left-field, quirky, black comedy movie. A bad sequel to the previous films, sure, but a good movie in it's own right.

As for "Xenomorphs being underpowered and random" in Resurrection... Kradan already nailed it. Have you not seen Requiem? Literally every time one comes at Wolf it conveniently forgets that it has appendages with which it could attack him and turns into a comatose lump of meat so Wolf can strike a silly pose with it before shooting it in the face. "Badass", as people so often say.
Title: Re: Favourite Predator Movie?
Post by: Kradan on Aug 14, 2020, 11:12:25 AM
Also, xenos in Res quite smart because they:

1. Used acid to escape from the cell

2. Freezed guy to death with liquid nitrogen

3. Traped people underwater to weaken them and lower their guard near the eggs

4. A bit of a stretch, probably, but one might say hand-gun on the floor that led to Elgyn's death was a trap set by Xenos
Title: Re: Favourite Predator Movie?
Post by: Corporal Hicks on Aug 14, 2020, 11:25:25 AM
4 was most definitely a trap.
Title: Re: Favourite Predator Movie?
Post by: Kradan on Aug 14, 2020, 11:27:21 AM
I mean, was it deliberatly waiting for him or it just happened to be in that spot and decided to kill the guy ?
Title: Re: Favourite Predator Movie?
Post by: Corporal Hicks on Aug 14, 2020, 11:28:27 AM
No, it deliberately laid out those guns to that spot. It was 100% a trap and intended as indication of intelligence.
Title: Re: Favourite Predator Movie?
Post by: Kradan on Aug 14, 2020, 11:29:13 AM
OK


Quote from: HuDaFuK on Aug 14, 2020, 08:21:48 AM
Literally every time one comes at Wolf it conveniently forgets that it has appendages with which it could attack him and turns into a comatose lump of meat so Wolf can strike a silly pose with it before shooting it in the face. "Badass", as people so often say.

>:( >:( >:(

Seriously, though, Wolf's "badassery" is in the way he looks and moves and gadgets he uses but not necessarily in him being actually competent in what he does
Title: Re: Favourite Predator Movie?
Post by: AliceApocalypse on Aug 14, 2020, 12:19:15 PM
Quote from: Kradan on Aug 14, 2020, 11:29:13 AM
Seriously, though, Wolf's "badassery" is in the way he looks and moves and gadgets he uses but not necessarily in him being actually competent in what he does

Happens with age  :P

Thought his set up in beginning was fun, on the fence about the double castors.  The whip -meh.
Title: Re: Favourite Predator Movie?
Post by: Voodoo Magic on Aug 14, 2020, 04:02:57 PM
Quote from: Tichinde on Aug 14, 2020, 07:28:08 AM
Quote from: Kradan on Aug 14, 2020, 05:40:04 AM
Pffft. I'm sure Voodoo would watch AVPR 3 times non-stop just to see that scene

One hour of Alien Res. is worse. At least in AVPR you can appreciated the sewer fight and the wolf's intro, you get a few cool moments. With res. It's all just hyper sexual femdom clone ripley being creepy as hell and Xenomorphs being underpowered and random. Then you get to the newborn... the goddamn newborn. Say what you want about the predalien design, or the A: R xenos from AVP, Alien's greatest atrocity has to be that sack of sourmilk flesh that beats the snot out of the queen and then comes to mama. Serious, I felt like I was watching a kids movie, what the f**k is that thing *shudders*

AvPR > AR  100% . AvPR is a small town invaded by monsters popcorn B movie. It knows what the movie is, and isn't trying to be anything more, unlike.....

Alien Resurrection, an abomination and a disaster to the Ripley legacy! Cloned Alien Human hybrid.... sheesh.. comic book writing at its worst, amazingly made even worse at beats when it takes itself so seriously!

(https://i.gifer.com/EZl0.gif)




Nice gif Kradan!

(https://i.imgur.com/qQQwe.gif)

The Predator Jedi at work!!!
Title: Re: Favourite Predator Movie?
Post by: Master on Aug 14, 2020, 04:41:01 PM
Quote from: Voodoo Magic on Aug 14, 2020, 04:02:57 PM
Quote from: Tichinde on Aug 14, 2020, 07:28:08 AM
Quote from: Kradan on Aug 14, 2020, 05:40:04 AM
Pffft. I'm sure Voodoo would watch AVPR 3 times non-stop just to see that scene

One hour of Alien Res. is worse. At least in AVPR you can appreciated the sewer fight and the wolf's intro, you get a few cool moments. With res. It's all just hyper sexual femdom clone ripley being creepy as hell and Xenomorphs being underpowered and random. Then you get to the newborn... the goddamn newborn. Say what you want about the predalien design, or the A: R xenos from AVP, Alien's greatest atrocity has to be that sack of sourmilk flesh that beats the snot out of the queen and then comes to mama. Serious, I felt like I was watching a kids movie, what the f**k is that thing *shudders*

AvPR > AR  100% . AvPR is a small town invaded by monsters popcorn B movie. It knows what the movie is, and isn't trying to be anything more, unlike.....

Alien Resurrection, an abomination and a disaster to the Ripley legacy! Cloned Alien Human hybrid.... sheesh.. comic book writing at its worst, amazingly made even worse at beats when it takes itself so seriously!

(https://i.gifer.com/EZl0.gif)




Nice gif Kradan!

(https://i.imgur.com/qQQwe.gif)

The Predator Jedi at work!!!

I can't Believe it...

(https://i2.wp.com/disneyexaminer.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/12/star-wars-episode-4-you-were-my-brother-anakin.gif?ssl=1)
Title: Re: Favourite Predator Movie?
Post by: Tichinde on Aug 14, 2020, 08:41:45 PM
There are two types of people who shit on Wolf:

1: Hateful anti AVPR people who want to condemn everything in the movie to garbage tier

2: Xenomorph fans that think he beat everyone way too easily (though I think the movie's presentation makes it clear he's really elite, he has a wall of weapons, biomasks, and his design depicts a very battle hardened veteran so I personally can see him carving through the xeno army like he did, though they were dumb but they are kinda like that in every AVP story)

I understand where people are coming from by saying the xenos should have used their tails more, there is no excuse for that, but as for Kradans GIF I figure it's worth mentioning two things

1: He's a predator... feats of strength like overpowering two xenos isn't that crazy in all honesty

2: He was just overpowered in the film when they leapt onto him.

Though we are all in agreement that holding a xeno like that were it not for the plot would result in a quick tailstab through the heart yes?
Title: Re: Favourite Predator Movie?
Post by: SiL on Aug 14, 2020, 10:43:12 PM
Heaven forbid people think he's shit because he's demonstrably shit. He had one job and he didn't even get close to finishing it.
Title: Re: Favourite Predator Movie?
Post by: Kradan on Aug 14, 2020, 11:57:11 PM
Yes, heaven forbid
Title: Re: Favourite Predator Movie?
Post by: Voodoo Magic on Aug 15, 2020, 01:27:11 AM
Yes, heaven forbids fans who do not appreciate AvPR Requiem, the fine wine of the Alien and Predator franchises!
Title: Re: Favourite Predator Movie?
Post by: Kradan on Aug 15, 2020, 01:32:09 AM
Heaven forbid fans who do not appreciate beauty of Crab... I mean, ADI Predators
Title: Re: Favourite Predator Movie?
Post by: SiL on Aug 15, 2020, 01:38:34 AM
Kradan I think the sarcasm inherent in "heaven forbid" is being lost :D
Title: Re: Favourite Predator Movie?
Post by: Samhain13 on Aug 15, 2020, 01:58:02 AM
Quote from: SiL on Aug 14, 2020, 10:43:12 PM
He had one job and he didn't even get close to finishing it.

Even if it wasn't intentional that showed that the aliens couldn't be defeated, with them things get out of hand and just like with humans trying they can't be controled. Wolf had the tools to finish everything in the sewers, but if that happened it would be boring and even more biased.
Title: Re: Favourite Predator Movie?
Post by: SiL on Aug 15, 2020, 02:03:59 AM
He could've not given up at the end. We knew the nuke was coming, he didn't. Going one on one with the PredAlien was stupid.
Title: Re: Favourite Predator Movie?
Post by: Kradan on Aug 15, 2020, 02:05:33 AM
Quote from: SiL on Aug 15, 2020, 01:38:34 AM
Kradan I think the sarcasm inherent in "heaven forbid" is being lost :D

Oops, sorry for that
Title: Re: Favourite Predator Movie?
Post by: Tichinde on Aug 15, 2020, 03:53:32 AM
Quote from: SiL on Aug 15, 2020, 02:03:59 AM
He could've not given up at the end. We knew the nuke was coming, he didn't. Going one on one with the PredAlien was stupid.

Well rewatching the movie he gets injured mulitple times, by the hospital he just took a fall with a spike through his gut, then the predalien disarms him from all his potentially lethal weapons like the pistol, whip, power punch glove, or combistick. He already used the shurikens and mines so he's like essentially saying "f**k it. I'll die in battle as warriors should"

I only know that through the trading cards I collected as a kid though, the film should have conveyed the hopelessness of the situation and wolf's suicide better
Title: Re: Favourite Predator Movie?
Post by: SiL on Aug 15, 2020, 04:21:04 AM
He throws away his last shuriken (when in a perfect situation to use it and be done with the whole thing) and still has something left on his bandolier.

The only time he gets close to finishing his job in the sewers, and even then his master plan was to shoot two Aliens point blank that he was holding (even when he knew there was at least one other Alien around).

The PredAlien arguably saved him from his own stupidity and he still lost.
Title: Re: Favourite Predator Movie?
Post by: Voodoo Magic on Aug 15, 2020, 10:30:54 AM
More scrutiny than a small town invaded by monsters popcorn B dumb-but-fun movie deserves.

And yes, I was staring at the clock.
Title: Re: Favourite Predator Movie?
Post by: SiL on Aug 15, 2020, 11:50:15 AM
The movie deserves nothing but contempt and ire.
Title: Re: Favourite Predator Movie?
Post by: PredBabe on Aug 15, 2020, 12:12:27 PM
AVP > The Predator = Alien: Resurrection > AVPR


(https://i.imgur.com/JDrSAob.png)



Edit: Damn. IDK how I feel about giving Paul Anderson that much credit but I think it has the best pacing out of them all.


Title: Re: Favourite Predator Movie?
Post by: Kradan on Aug 15, 2020, 12:22:44 PM
Quote from: PredBabe on Aug 15, 2020, 12:12:27 PM
AVP > The Predator = Alien: Resurrection > AVPR

Perfect
Title: Re: Favourite Predator Movie?
Post by: SiL on Aug 15, 2020, 12:48:35 PM
I'd rather watch AvP and AR than AvPR and The Predator.
Title: Re: Favourite Predator Movie?
Post by: 426Buddy on Aug 15, 2020, 01:09:09 PM
AvP and AR are on a similar level for me and I've watched them plenty. Not good but entertaining.

I don't plan on rewatching AvPR or The Predator for a long long time if ever. If I want a fun small town monster flick I'll stick with The Blob remake  ;D
Title: Re: Favourite Predator Movie?
Post by: Nightmare Asylum on Aug 15, 2020, 01:11:44 PM
AVP > The Predator > AVPR

Bottom three, easy. I've seen AVP a handful of times. I've seen the other two once each, and have zero intention of ever seeing either of them again.

I don't hate Alien: Resurrection. Junet does a lot of really interesting things there that make Whedon's middling script almost worth it. The tone is bonkers and isn't right for an Alien movie at all, but as a standalone I dig that and do find that it is very in line with most of the schlocky old Dark Horse Aliens stories I've read, and content wise it is about as Alien as it gets. A weird deformed Alien/human hybrid caressing its grandmother that happens to be a clone of Ripley that is both combating and co-existing with the Alien DNA inside her, right before she kills him? I can get behind that.

Plus, David's genetic experiments in Alien: Covenant and the nature of how the pathogen works and the Aliens were created make the genetic experiments in Resurrection make more sense. Shhhh. ;)
Title: Re: Favourite Predator Movie?
Post by: Master on Aug 15, 2020, 01:46:32 PM
Quote from: SiL on Aug 15, 2020, 12:48:35 PM
I'd rather watch AvP and AR than AvPR and The Predator.

Yes I feel exactly the same. A:R and AvP both feel like big budget s-f. Both have some of the best scenes in whole franchise. None of that was ever presented in AvP-R and TP.
Title: Re: Favourite Predator Movie?
Post by: PredBabe on Aug 15, 2020, 01:56:14 PM
I beg to differ! The lab breakout scene was pretty great.

Fugitive > Wolf

Honestly though The Predator has not aged well for me and I haven't had much desire to revisit it. The last time I watched it I had to force myself to sit through the entire film. There's good bits and I see the potential that it had in terms of a "good" Predator and "bad" Predator chasing each other through space- but man it was horribly mishandled. The fact that it had potential is probably where all my bitterness towards the movie stems from. It truly does feel more like a mockery of the franchise in retrospect.

I enjoy watching AR from time to time as a standalone movie but in terms of the direction for the series and out of all 6 Alien movies, it is the worst.

There's really no sitting through AVPR though. I typically turn it off after Wolf inspects the crash site. 

Title: Re: Favourite Predator Movie?
Post by: Kradan on Aug 15, 2020, 05:43:04 PM
Quote from: Nightmare Asylum on Aug 15, 2020, 01:11:44 PM
AVP > The Predator > AVPR

Good enough
Title: Re: Favourite Predator Movie?
Post by: Voodoo Magic on Aug 15, 2020, 07:22:20 PM
AVPR > The Predator > AVP > Alien Resurrection
Title: Re: Favourite Predator Movie?
Post by: KiramidHead on Aug 15, 2020, 07:27:00 PM
The Predator > Rez > AVP > AVPR
Title: Re: Favourite Predator Movie?
Post by: Kradan on Aug 15, 2020, 07:49:40 PM
Quote from: Voodoo Magic on Aug 15, 2020, 07:22:20 PM
AVPR > The Predator

:-\

Quote from: KiramidHead on Aug 15, 2020, 07:27:00 PM
The Predator > Rez > AVP > AVPR

:)
Title: Re: Favourite Predator Movie?
Post by: Nightmare Asylum on Aug 15, 2020, 07:51:21 PM
Quote from: Voodoo Magic on Aug 15, 2020, 07:22:20 PM
AVPR > The Predator > AVP > Alien Resurrection

I think all of those ">" symbols you posted are supposed to be "<" symbols. ;)
Title: Re: Favourite Predator Movie?
Post by: Voodoo Magic on Aug 15, 2020, 08:49:00 PM
Dis crap better than dat crap!

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Quote from: Nightmare Asylum on Aug 15, 2020, 07:51:21 PM
Quote from: Voodoo Magic on Aug 15, 2020, 07:22:20 PM
AVPR > The Predator > AVP > Alien Resurrection

I think all of those ">" symbols you posted are supposed to be "<" symbols. ;)

(https://media.tenor.com/images/5f191986c03cb412c2a6d661e67cb7dc/tenor.gif)

Title: Re: Favourite Predator Movie?
Post by: Master on Aug 15, 2020, 09:09:31 PM
Quote from: Nightmare Asylum on Aug 15, 2020, 07:51:21 PM
Quote from: Voodoo Magic on Aug 15, 2020, 07:22:20 PM
AVPR > The Predator > AVP > Alien Resurrection

I think all of those ">" symbols you posted are supposed to be "<" symbols. ;)

Yeah, exactly!   ;D
Title: Re: Favourite Predator Movie?
Post by: SiL on Aug 15, 2020, 11:25:27 PM
Hot take

The Predator = AvPR.
Title: Re: Favourite Predator Movie?
Post by: BlueMarsalis79 on Aug 15, 2020, 11:46:08 PM
As long as Requiem's at the bottom of the list where it belongs.
Title: Re: Favourite Predator Movie?
Post by: Voodoo Magic on Aug 15, 2020, 11:53:32 PM
Quote from: Master on Aug 15, 2020, 09:09:31 PM
Quote from: Nightmare Asylum on Aug 15, 2020, 07:51:21 PM
Quote from: Voodoo Magic on Aug 15, 2020, 07:22:20 PM
AVPR > The Predator > AVP > Alien Resurrection

I think all of those ">" symbols you posted are supposed to be "<" symbols. ;)

Yeah, exactly!   ;D

(https://media.tenor.com/images/3115f8a01d6fde33c9efef27a0656013/tenor.gif)
Title: Re: Favourite Predator Movie?
Post by: PredBabe on Aug 16, 2020, 12:28:54 AM
 :laugh:
Title: Re: Favourite Predator Movie?
Post by: Nightmare Asylum on Aug 16, 2020, 12:48:39 AM
Quote from: SiL on Aug 15, 2020, 11:25:27 PM
Hot take

The Predator = AvPR.

Yep, basically. I put The Predator above just because I've spent 13 years with AVPR at the bottom and it seems odd changing that.

But I will never watch either one again.
Title: Re: Favourite Predator Movie?
Post by: Perfect-Organism on Aug 16, 2020, 12:52:09 AM
1.  Predator
2.  Predators
3.  Predator 2
4.  The Predator

What's Predator 1?   ;D
Title: Re: Favourite Predator Movie?
Post by: Nightmare Asylum on Aug 16, 2020, 12:57:37 AM
Predator 2
Predator
Predators
The Predator

Predator is better than the second one, but I've always been partial to Predator 2.
Title: Re: Favourite Predator Movie?
Post by: Immortan Jonesy on Aug 16, 2020, 12:59:31 AM
lol since my favorite is the original followed by Predator 2, I rank the films in the original order:

1. Predator

2. Predator 2

3. Predators

4. The Predator

How borring I am  :laugh:
Title: Re: Favourite Predator Movie?
Post by: PredBabe on Aug 16, 2020, 01:05:02 AM
Quote from: Immortan Jonesy on Aug 16, 2020, 12:59:31 AM
lol since my favorite is the original followed by Predator 2, I rank the films in the original order:

1. Predator

2. Predator 2

3. Predators

4. The Predator

How borring I am  :laugh:

That's my ranking as well!
Title: Re: Favourite Predator Movie?
Post by: KiramidHead on Aug 16, 2020, 01:13:30 AM
Predator
Predator 2

Predators

The Predator

I still don't mind The Predator before it turns into a scenic excursion into the nighttime woods.
Title: Re: Favourite Predator Movie?
Post by: Perfect-Organism on Aug 16, 2020, 01:14:37 AM
I actually fairly well like Predators.  I was inclined to put it as number 1 but, well, Arnold...
Title: Re: Favourite Predator Movie?
Post by: Nightmare Asylum on Aug 16, 2020, 01:19:26 AM
I don't dislike Predators. Love the concept of the hunting planet. It all holds together fairly well until the attack where Noland dies; after that I feel like the pacing gets thrown all out of whack.
Title: Re: Favourite Predator Movie?
Post by: Voodoo Magic on Aug 16, 2020, 01:22:52 AM
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(https://gifimage.net/wp-content/uploads/2017/10/dumb-and-dumber-scooter-gif-2.gif)

Quote from: Nightmare Asylum on Aug 16, 2020, 12:57:37 AM
Predator 2
Predator
Predators
The Predator

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;) ;D




PREDATOR 2
PREDATOR
PREDATORS
THE PREDATOR




Quote from: Nightmare Asylum on Aug 16, 2020, 01:19:26 AM
I don't dislike Predators. Love the concept of the hunting planet. It all holds together fairly well until the attack where Noland dies; after that I feel like the pacing gets thrown all out of whack.

Yep! Great concept... not so greatly executed.
Title: Re: Favourite Predator Movie?
Post by: 426Buddy on Aug 16, 2020, 01:25:23 AM
Predator
Predator 2
Predators








...the predator
Title: Re: Favourite Predator Movie?
Post by: KiramidHead on Aug 16, 2020, 01:33:12 AM
Predators for me mainly just needed more of the game preserve concept in action and less of the characters wondering what's going on when the audience already knows. And fewer recycled lines.
Title: Re: Favourite Predator Movie?
Post by: Perfect-Organism on Aug 16, 2020, 01:55:05 AM
I like how they finally quoted Hemingway in Predators.  These films revolve around some of his hunting themes anyway.  It is derivative of Predator but in a really good way.  I don't know why this film gets bashed.


Predator 2 is basically a poor adaptation of the first Predator Dark Horse series.  They should have just did it properly with Sheafer played by Dolph Lundgren and set up a third Predator film where Shesf and Alan ( :laugh:) finally meet up... perhaps on the Predator planet...
Title: Re: Favourite Predator Movie?
Post by: Voodoo Magic on Aug 16, 2020, 02:19:12 AM
Quote from: Perfect-Organism on Aug 16, 2020, 01:55:05 AM
Predator 2 is basically a poor adaptation of the first Predator Dark Horse series.  They should have just did it properly with Sheafer played by Dolph Lundgren and set up a third Predator film where Shesf and Alan ( :laugh:) finally meet up... perhaps on the Predator planet...

I cannot disagree more. The way I see it, expect for the exceptional first issue, the "Concrete Jungle" comic series drops in quality with every subsequent issue. So I think the Thomas Brothers, were correct to not adapt anything other than the framework in issue #1.
Title: Re: Favourite Predator Movie?
Post by: 426Buddy on Aug 16, 2020, 02:43:47 AM
Agreed, I think Schaefer series in general are overated.   
Title: Re: Favourite Predator Movie?
Post by: Perfect-Organism on Aug 16, 2020, 04:35:12 AM
I'll give the caveat that I'm not a big Predator fan but from what I remember, the series was pretty cool, but I like Verheiden's stuff in general.  He has a wry wit that carried through to these comics just like in the original Aliens series.  I also liked the Schwarzenegger connection through his brother.  But that was 13-year-old me I think.  I'm just not passionate about Predator stuff enough to have a firm opinion.  I just found myself wanting that Sheaf storyline to complete itself and as all the Predator comics since abandoned it, I lost interest.  The subsequent Predator series just got worse and worse...
Title: Re: Favourite Predator Movie?
Post by: Master on Aug 16, 2020, 07:06:26 AM
Predator = Predator 2 ( both are outstanding and I watch them regularly)

AvP = Predators ( both are good on their own but  did get allot of shit up on release cause are not as good as originals)

AvP-R = The Predator ( suburban themes are apparently not good for Predator  ;D But seriously, there is big quality drop between all above and those two and they both craped on franchise mythology)

Quote from: 426Buddy on Aug 16, 2020, 02:43:47 AM
Agreed, I think Schaefer series in general are overated.   

Agreed. Also Schaefer dropping snark jokes in every line of dialogue was especially painful.
Title: Re: Favourite Predator Movie?
Post by: 426Buddy on Aug 16, 2020, 11:14:10 AM
Quote from: Perfect-Organism on Aug 16, 2020, 04:35:12 AM
I'll give the caveat that I'm not a big Predator fan but from what I remember, the series was pretty cool, but I like Verheiden's stuff in general.  He has a wry wit that carried through to these comics just like in the original Aliens series.  I also liked the Schwarzenegger connection through his brother.  But that was 13-year-old me I think.  I'm just not passionate about Predator stuff enough to have a firm opinion.  I just found myself wanting that Sheaf storyline to complete itself and as all the Predator comics since abandoned it, I lost interest.  The subsequent Predator series just got worse and worse...

There a couple really good Predator series out the there. But there are a lot fewer predator comics overall than Alien and fewer great stories.

The more recent Predator Hunters series are excellent. If you haven't read them I would recommend checking them out.
Spoiler
(Old characters return including Schaefer in series 3)
[close]
Title: Re: Favourite Predator Movie?
Post by: Billiken on Aug 16, 2020, 01:28:51 PM
Love Predator 2 the most. I also love The Predator. Probably one of five people in the world who do. Has some really great action and banter.
Title: Re: Favourite Predator Movie?
Post by: Immortan Jonesy on Aug 16, 2020, 01:37:18 PM
Quote from: PredBabe on Aug 16, 2020, 01:05:02 AM
Quote from: Immortan Jonesy on Aug 16, 2020, 12:59:31 AM
lol since my favorite is the original followed by Predator 2, I rank the films in the original order:

1. Predator

2. Predator 2

3. Predators

4. The Predator

How borring I am  :laugh:

That's my ranking as well!

(https://i.ibb.co/jbqKhxh/4bmza5.gif)

So glad I'm not alone  ;D
Title: Re: Favourite Predator Movie?
Post by: Kradan on Aug 16, 2020, 01:48:46 PM
Quote from: Billiken on Aug 16, 2020, 01:28:51 PM
Love Predator 2 the most. I also love The Predator. Probably one of five people in the world who do. Has some really great action and banter.

(https://media1.tenor.com/images/2cf6f1a4be8f682bea86b394728c1a7b/tenor.gif?itemid=16006120)


Quote from: Master on Aug 16, 2020, 07:06:26 AM
Agreed. Also Schaefer dropping snark jokes in every line of dialogue was especially painful.

Idk, this was what I loved the most about it
Title: Re: Favourite Predator Movie?
Post by: PredBabe on Aug 16, 2020, 02:34:45 PM
Predator is clearly the stronger movie out of the bunch but, when I want to watch a Predator flick, my go to is usually Predator 2. It has a good balance of fun 90s action and banter but then does amazing with adding more lore to the creature.
Title: Re: Favourite Predator Movie?
Post by: Kradan on Aug 16, 2020, 02:39:07 PM
Quote from: PredBabe on Aug 16, 2020, 02:34:45 PM
Predator is clearly the stronger movie out of the bunch but, when I want to watch a Predator flick, my go to is usually Predator 2. It has a good balance of fun 90s action and banter but then does amazing with adding more lore to the creature.

Exactly
Title: Re: Favourite Predator Movie?
Post by: Master on Aug 16, 2020, 03:15:57 PM
Quote from: Kradan on Aug 16, 2020, 01:48:46 PM
Quote from: Billiken on Aug 16, 2020, 01:28:51 PM
Love Predator 2 the most. I also love The Predator. Probably one of five people in the world who do. Has some really great action and banter.

(https://media1.tenor.com/images/2cf6f1a4be8f682bea86b394728c1a7b/tenor.gif?itemid=16006120)


Quote from: Master on Aug 16, 2020, 07:06:26 AM
Agreed. Also Schaefer dropping snark jokes in every line of dialogue was especially painful.

Idk, this was what I loved the most about it

I was reading Cold War yesterday and Scheafer was mostly annoying.  I had deja vu for TP banter. I don't remember if original Concrete Jungle had also such amount of it, but in CW it was not easy to bear.
Title: Re: Favourite Predator Movie?
Post by: Voodoo Magic on Aug 16, 2020, 04:40:07 PM
@Perfect-Organism

It's funny. I wanted so badly to tell you yesterday that I had an article coming out the very next day on the very subject of Mark Verheiden shaping Predator 2 when you brought it up, but I had to wait.  :laugh:

https://www.avpgalaxy.net/predator-movies/predator-2/how-predator-concrete-jungle-influenced-predator-2/

Title: Re: Favourite Predator Movie?
Post by: Perfect-Organism on Aug 17, 2020, 03:43:57 AM
Quote from: Voodoo Magic on Aug 16, 2020, 04:40:07 PM
@Perfect-Organism

It's funny. I wanted so badly to tell you yesterday that I had an article coming out the very next day on the very subject of Mark Verheiden shaping Predator 2 when you brought it up, but I had to wait.  :laugh:

https://www.avpgalaxy.net/predator-movies/predator-2/how-predator-concrete-jungle-influenced-predator-2/



That is the most serendipitous thing ever!
Title: Re: Favourite Predator Movie?
Post by: Voodoo Magic on Aug 17, 2020, 03:46:51 AM
Quote from: Perfect-Organism on Aug 17, 2020, 03:43:57 AM
Quote from: Voodoo Magic on Aug 16, 2020, 04:40:07 PM
@Perfect-Organism

It's funny. I wanted so badly to tell you yesterday that I had an article coming out the very next day on the very subject of Mark Verheiden shaping Predator 2 when you brought it up, but I had to wait.  :laugh:

https://www.avpgalaxy.net/predator-movies/predator-2/how-predator-concrete-jungle-influenced-predator-2/



That is the most serendipitous thing ever!

Haha, definitely!  :laugh:
Title: Re: Favourite Predator Movie?
Post by: Kradan on Aug 17, 2020, 06:20:07 AM
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(https://i.gifer.com/19O5.gif)
Title: Re: Favourite Predator Movie?
Post by: FatStu on Aug 31, 2020, 01:46:21 PM
Quote from: Voodoo Magic on Aug 16, 2020, 04:40:07 PM
@Perfect-Organism

It's funny. I wanted so badly to tell you yesterday that I had an article coming out the very next day on the very subject of Mark Verheiden shaping Predator 2 when you brought it up, but I had to wait.  :laugh:

https://www.avpgalaxy.net/predator-movies/predator-2/how-predator-concrete-jungle-influenced-predator-2/



Wow! I really enjoyed this video. I've often been aware of these similarities (what fan couldn't be?) so it was nice to see it explored in a bit more depth.

I actually reread Concrete Jungle yesterday and I thought to myself how cool it was be if Dark Horse had a line of straight to home media animated movies. They're very successful for DC. 

Animated films based on DH's Aliens, Predator and AVP properties would be very warmly received I think.

Or course, the moment's probably passed now.
Title: Re: Favourite Predator Movie?
Post by: Kradan on Aug 31, 2020, 03:20:18 PM
Predator would suit better as animated movie than Alien IMO
Title: Re: Favourite Predator Movie?
Post by: Corporal Hicks on Aug 31, 2020, 03:22:21 PM
I think you could do a lot more with the style of animation with a Predator animated thing than you could an Alien. Though I think both would work in an animation format. Just, like always, Predator is a bit more flexible with it.
Title: Re: Favourite Predator Movie?
Post by: Voodoo Magic on Aug 31, 2020, 06:26:17 PM
Quote from: FatStu on Aug 31, 2020, 01:46:21 PM
Quote from: Voodoo Magic on Aug 16, 2020, 04:40:07 PM
@Perfect-Organism

It's funny. I wanted so badly to tell you yesterday that I had an article coming out the very next day on the very subject of Mark Verheiden shaping Predator 2 when you brought it up, but I had to wait.  :laugh:

https://www.avpgalaxy.net/predator-movies/predator-2/how-predator-concrete-jungle-influenced-predator-2/



Wow! I really enjoyed this video. I've often been aware of these similarities (what fan couldn't be?) so it was nice to see it explored in a bit more depth.

Happy to hear it Fatstu!  :)

Quote from: Corporal Hicks on Aug 31, 2020, 03:22:21 PM
I think you could do a lot more with the style of animation with a Predator animated thing than you could an Alien. Though I think both would work in an animation format. Just, like always, Predator is a bit more flexible with it.

100% Agree!  :)
Title: Re: Favourite Predator Movie?
Post by: YouHaveMySympahties on Sep 05, 2020, 07:23:08 AM
When I was a kid I preferred the original. And I think a major part of that it because I also greatly preferred the design of the creature itself. To this day, I still think the first creature looks way more intimidating and memorable than the one in the second. But nowadays I find that I have a lot more fun with the second movie. And weirdly, despite probably watching the first movie a lot more when I was a kid, I find that I have a lot more nostalgic fondness for my memories of watching the second. It's weird. I love the sweaty, gritty, colourfully vibrant thing the second film has going on.
Title: Re: Favourite Predator Movie?
Post by: goose_3387 on Oct 26, 2020, 08:02:25 PM
I watched Predator at the cinema last night. It was a pretty surreal experience to be honest.

Amazing to see it on the big screen and added a whole new dimension to my viewing experience.

Title: Re: Favourite Predator Movie?
Post by: Voodoo Magic on Oct 26, 2020, 09:20:12 PM
I wonder if you went to the same showing as Hicks..!

That's awesome goose. Seeing these films on a big screen again. I wish I had such an opportunity near me. Very jealous!
Title: Re: Favourite Predator Movie?
Post by: goose_3387 on Oct 27, 2020, 07:58:43 AM
Quote from: Voodoo Magic on Oct 26, 2020, 09:20:12 PM
I wonder if you went to the same showing as Hicks..!

That's awesome goose. Seeing these films on a big screen again. I wish I had such an opportunity near me. Very jealous!

This was my first time seeing it in the cinema. I was born in 1987 and then missed the 30th Anniversary release back in 2017.

Thought the surround sound in the cinema really added to the viewing experience, especially during the Predator vision POV scenes.

Title: Re: Favourite Predator Movie?
Post by: Corporal Hicks on Oct 27, 2020, 09:07:09 AM
I've only seen it 3 times in the cinema myself. I caught the anniversary showing back in 2017 (was it really that long ago?), once in a double-bill showing I went to at Prince Charles (also the only time I've seen P2 on the big screen) and again at the weekend. I always love seeing these films up on the big screen.
Title: Re: Favourite Predator Movie?
Post by: HuDaFuK on Oct 27, 2020, 09:20:34 AM
Quote from: Corporal Hicks on Oct 27, 2020, 09:07:09 AMa double-bill showing I went to at Prince Charles (also the only time I've seen P2 on the big screen)

That was a good day out. Likewise the only time I've ever seen Predator 2 on the big screen. In fact it's the only time I can remember it even being shown on the big screen.
Title: Re: Favourite Predator Movie?
Post by: Corporal Hicks on Oct 27, 2020, 10:09:58 AM
That was a good day! I really enjoyed that viewing. Remember how scratchy the Predator print was? Looked ace!  :laugh:
Title: Re: Favourite Predator Movie?
Post by: HuDaFuK on Oct 27, 2020, 11:10:56 AM
Yeah, their copy of that film is proper shitty grindhouse-quality.

With the racist cast call at the end, that completely jumps over Bill Duke and Carl Weathers :laugh:
Title: Re: Favourite Predator Movie?
Post by: Voodoo Magic on Oct 27, 2020, 11:46:48 AM
You serious? Someone actually mutilated a print to cut out those frames? Wtf on all fronts.




I guess for now we can put to rest all those rumors that Disney was locking these movies away in a vault.

Quote from: goose_3387 on Oct 27, 2020, 07:58:43 AM
Quote from: Voodoo Magic on Oct 26, 2020, 09:20:12 PM
I wonder if you went to the same showing as Hicks..!

That's awesome goose. Seeing these films on a big screen again. I wish I had such an opportunity near me. Very jealous!

This was my first time seeing it in the cinema. I was born in 1987 and then missed the 30th Anniversary release back in 2017.

Thought the surround sound in the cinema really added to the viewing experience, especially during the Predator vision POV scenes.

That's awesome! I think seeing all of these at least once on the big screen is on every fan's bucket list!

Title: Re: Favourite Predator Movie?
Post by: HuDaFuK on Oct 27, 2020, 11:51:30 AM
Quote from: Voodoo Magic on Oct 27, 2020, 11:46:48 AMYou serious? Someone actually mutilated a print to cut out those frames? Wtf on all fronts.

Oh no, sorry if I wasn't clear. It was just a completely coincidental jump in the print (one of many in their copy). It just happened to align perfectly over their appearances.
Title: Re: Favourite Predator Movie?
Post by: Voodoo Magic on Oct 27, 2020, 12:11:54 PM
Quote from: HuDaFuK on Oct 27, 2020, 11:51:30 AM
Quote from: Voodoo Magic on Oct 27, 2020, 11:46:48 AMYou serious? Someone actually mutilated a print to cut out those frames? Wtf on all fronts.

Oh no, sorry if I wasn't clear. It was just a completely coincidental jump in the print (one of many in their copy). It just happened to align perfectly over their appearances.

Oh, lol. Cool. What a relief. Thanks for clearing that up. :)
Title: Re: Favourite Predator Movie?
Post by: goose_3387 on Oct 27, 2020, 12:28:22 PM
Quote from: Voodoo Magic on Oct 27, 2020, 11:46:48 AM
You serious? Someone actually mutilated a print to cut out those frames? Wtf on all fronts.




I guess for now we can put to rest all those rumors that Disney was locking these movies away in a vault.

Quote from: goose_3387 on Oct 27, 2020, 07:58:43 AM
Quote from: Voodoo Magic on Oct 26, 2020, 09:20:12 PM
I wonder if you went to the same showing as Hicks..!

That's awesome goose. Seeing these films on a big screen again. I wish I had such an opportunity near me. Very jealous!

This was my first time seeing it in the cinema. I was born in 1987 and then missed the 30th Anniversary release back in 2017.

Thought the surround sound in the cinema really added to the viewing experience, especially during the Predator vision POV scenes.

That's awesome! I think seeing all of these at least once on the big screen is on every fan's bucket list!



It was always on my list. So happy to have finally ticked it off. Still debating going for another viewing...Tickets are only £4.99.

Hoping they show Aliens Special Edition in Nov/Dec then I've seen my top 3 on the big screen - Predator, Jurassic Park (saw as a kid and adult several times). Just need Aliens now...
Title: Re: Favourite Predator Movie?
Post by: HuDaFuK on Oct 27, 2020, 12:53:17 PM
The only time I've seen Aliens on the big screen was at the Royal Albert Hall with the soundtrack live. That was something!

I missed out on seeing the Alien 3 special edition at the Prince Charles and I've regretted it ever since. Only time I've ever seen that advertised in a cinema.
Title: Re: Favourite Predator Movie?
Post by: Pu$$yFace on Jan 31, 2021, 06:12:28 AM
1) Predator
2) Predator 2
3) Predators
4) The Predator
Title: Re: Favourite Predator Movie?
Post by: BlueMarsalis79 on Feb 01, 2021, 03:18:50 PM
Predator Skulls
Predator 2
Predator
Predators
Title: Re: Favourite Predator Movie?
Post by: Kradan on Feb 01, 2021, 03:45:47 PM
There's always possibility to strike lower. Always
Title: Re: Favourite Predator Movie?
Post by: BigDaddyJohn on Feb 01, 2021, 08:48:42 PM
Quote from: Pu$$yFace on Jan 31, 2021, 06:12:28 AM
1) Predator
2) Predator 2
3) The Predator
4) Predators

Fixed !  :P
Title: Re: Favourite Predator Movie?
Post by: Pu$$yFace on Feb 01, 2021, 10:34:33 PM
Quote from: BigDaddyJohn on Feb 01, 2021, 08:48:42 PM
Quote from: Pu$$yFace on Jan 31, 2021, 06:12:28 AM
1) Predator
2) Predator 2
3) The Predator
4) Predators

Fixed !  :P
As shameless of a rip off or retread, however you wanna classify it, that predators was.  Put the crack pipe down.
Title: Re: Favourite Predator Movie?
Post by: KiramidHead on Feb 01, 2021, 11:02:42 PM
I love that single vote for The Predator still hanging on.
Title: Re: Favourite Predator Movie?
Post by: 426Buddy on Feb 01, 2021, 11:37:21 PM
Quote from: Pu$$yFace on Jan 31, 2021, 06:12:28 AM
1) Predator
2) Predator 2
3) Predators



The Predator

^fixed
Title: Re: Favourite Predator Movie?
Post by: Pu$$yFace on Feb 01, 2021, 11:59:20 PM
Quote from: 426Buddy on Feb 01, 2021, 11:37:21 PM
Quote from: Pu$$yFace on Jan 31, 2021, 06:12:28 AM
1) Predator
2) Predator 2
3) Predators



The Predator

^fixed
Thank you sir, this is an accurate correction.

Never in my life has a sequel come out that ultimately made my apathetic opinion of its predecessor, substantially better there after.

Which is ultimately the greatest legacy of Shane Black's comedy / parody, dog shit take with The Predator.

And that legacy is that it made a rather bland movie, sprinkled with some interesting concepts, although with heaps of stupidity or unfulfilled potential with Nimrod's Predators, more positive in retrospect.
Title: Re: Favourite Predator Movie?
Post by: Immortan Jonesy on Feb 02, 2021, 12:07:57 AM
I had no idea that the actress Françoise Yip, MS. Yutani in Requiem, was part of The Predator at some point.
Title: Re: Favourite Predator Movie?
Post by: Huggs on Feb 02, 2021, 01:42:05 AM
Quote from: KiramidHead on Feb 01, 2021, 11:02:42 PM
I love that single vote for The Predator still hanging on.

There's two now. God help us, they're replicating.
Title: Re: Favourite Predator Movie?
Post by: KiramidHead on Feb 02, 2021, 02:05:45 AM
Quote from: Huggs on Feb 02, 2021, 01:42:05 AM
Quote from: KiramidHead on Feb 01, 2021, 11:02:42 PM
I love that single vote for The Predator still hanging on.

There's two now. God help us, they're replicating.

This is getting out of hand. Now there are two of them.
Title: Re: Favourite Predator Movie?
Post by: 426Buddy on Feb 02, 2021, 02:16:50 AM
3? Surely this is a joke? :laugh:
Title: Re: Favourite Predator Movie?
Post by: Huggs on Feb 02, 2021, 02:17:51 AM
We may have to initiate wildfire protocols.
Title: Re: Favourite Predator Movie?
Post by: Pu$$yFace on Feb 02, 2021, 03:15:55 AM
Quote from: 426Buddy on Feb 02, 2021, 02:16:50 AM
3? Surely this is a joke? :laugh:
3 people then ...

Don't actually like the actual first film or the character or the mythology or the franchise from 1987 - 2010.

Begs the question, why are they here?!  Go to a Monsters Squad or Kiss Kiss Bang Bang or IM3 message board.

::)
Title: Re: Favourite Predator Movie?
Post by: Kradan on Feb 02, 2021, 05:56:47 AM
Quote from: 426Buddy on Feb 02, 2021, 02:16:50 AM
3? Surely this is a joke? :laugh:

Don't look at me, I voted for P2


Quote from: Pu$$yFace on Feb 02, 2021, 03:15:55 AM
Quote from: 426Buddy on Feb 02, 2021, 02:16:50 AM
3? Surely this is a joke? :laugh:
3 people then ...

Don't actually like the actual first film or the character or the mythology or the franchise from 1987 - 2010.

Begs the question, why are they here?!  Go to a Monsters Squad or Kiss Kiss Bang Bang or IM3 message board.

::)

Thread isn't called "Objectively better Predator movie", is it ?
Title: Re: Favourite Predator Movie?
Post by: HuDaFuK on Feb 02, 2021, 09:28:23 AM
Quote from: Pu$$yFace on Feb 02, 2021, 03:15:55 AMBegs the question, why are they here?!  Go to a Monsters Squad or Kiss Kiss Bang Bang or IM3 message board.

They're here to hang out with the people who think Requiem is the best Alien movie.
Title: Re: Favourite Predator Movie?
Post by: Kradan on Feb 02, 2021, 09:32:39 AM
 :o It isn't ?
Title: Re: Favourite Predator Movie?
Post by: BigDaddyJohn on Feb 02, 2021, 10:24:52 AM
Quote from: Pu$$yFace on Feb 01, 2021, 10:34:33 PM
Quote from: BigDaddyJohn on Feb 01, 2021, 08:48:42 PM
Quote from: Pu$$yFace on Jan 31, 2021, 06:12:28 AM
1) Predator
2) Predator 2
3) The Predator
4) Predators

Fixed !  :P
As shameless of a rip off or retread, however you wanna classify it, that predators was.  Put the crack pipe down.

Nah I'll hang on to it a bit more thanks. ;D
Title: Re: Favourite Predator Movie?
Post by: Corporal Hicks on Feb 05, 2021, 10:13:09 AM
Quote from: Pu$$yFace on Feb 01, 2021, 10:34:33 PM
As shameless of a rip off or retread, however you wanna classify it, that predators was.  Put the crack pipe down.

Lies! A jungle setting and repeating beats does not a shameless rip off make.  >:(
Title: Re: Favourite Predator Movie?
Post by: Voodoo Magic on Feb 05, 2021, 02:02:31 PM
Quote from: Corporal Hicks on Feb 05, 2021, 10:13:09 AM
Quote from: Pu$$yFace on Feb 01, 2021, 10:34:33 PM
As shameless of a rip off or retread, however you wanna classify it, that predators was.  Put the crack pipe down.

Lies! A jungle setting and repeating beats does not a shameless rip off make.  >:(

I don't know if I'd personally say "shameless", but it does feel like a lack of inspiration at times to me. "Retread" is very fair though, and when it repeats the same musical cues it leaves Predator 1987 fans that are sensitive to that degree of homages in a deep confounded state of irritation. I get it. I've been there too. It's like blowing the Alien out of the airlock. If you're going to do that again, you better do it better, and James Cameron did. Unfortunately, Nimrod Antal didn't quite reach those celebrated heights, hence the multiplication of constant lesser-ripoff criticisms times the constant homages.
Title: Re: Favourite Predator Movie?
Post by: Yautja888 on Feb 06, 2021, 05:14:36 PM
It's a tie between Predator and Predator2, the first has a lot of suspenseful scenes wich work better
during the first viewing, Predator 2 lacks quality in a few scenes but it shows the predator more, so its
replayability is superior, it's easier to rewatch.I couldn't decide between the two, I'd rather take them
as one big movie, they're complement each other perfectly.
Title: Re: Favourite Predator Movie?
Post by: Pu$$yFace on Feb 08, 2021, 05:15:45 AM
Def agree.  Predator is better made film and an instant classic. 

But I'd argue Pred 2 is more likable and the more rewatchable flick TBH.  I can pick it up at any point and be engaged.

Quote from: Corporal Hicks
Lies! A jungle setting and repeating beats does not a shameless rip off make.  >:(
You keep telling yourself that kiddo.   :P 

It very much is a retread or remake. 

It is in that era of films where they change a little bit of set dressing to a cinematic classic but ultimately deliver the same movie.  IE: Force Awakens. 

Not to mention as an aside, a lot key points to the film are nonsensical and stupid.

With that said it's still decent and miles better than The Predator
Title: Re: Favourite Predator Movie?
Post by: BlueMarsalis79 on Feb 08, 2021, 01:06:04 PM
C'mon Skulls, rooting for you mate.
Title: Re: Favourite Predator Movie?
Post by: Voodoo Magic on Feb 08, 2021, 04:00:44 PM
Quote from: Trash Queen on Feb 08, 2021, 01:06:04 PM
C'mon Skulls, rooting for you mate.

Indeed.  After The Predator, the franchise is thirsting for a Fury Road....
Title: Re: Favourite Predator Movie?
Post by: Kradan on Feb 08, 2021, 04:05:46 PM
 :P
Title: Re: Favourite Predator Movie?
Post by: BlueMarsalis79 on Feb 08, 2021, 11:29:59 PM
I just think it's potentially the most interesting angle we have had in a good minute.
Title: Re: Favourite Predator Movie?
Post by: Corporal Hicks on Feb 10, 2021, 06:38:37 AM
Quote from: Pu$$yFace on Feb 08, 2021, 05:15:45 AM
You keep telling yourself that kiddo.   :P 

It very much is a retread or remake. 

It is in that era of films where they change a little bit of set dressing to a cinematic classic but ultimately deliver the same movie.  IE: Force Awakens. 

Not to mention as an aside, a lot key points to the film are nonsensical and stupid.

With that said it's still decent and miles better than The Predator

Not in the slightest. Predators is no-where near the repeat that The Force Awakens. It's an entirely different plot compared to Predator for a start. It has a jungle settings, and repeats several story beats - most notably Billy's turn IMHO. To call it a retreat or repeat of Predator is entirely incorrect. If you don't like the repeated beats - I loathe reused dialogue - that's fine, but it's not in any way shape or form a remake/retread of Predator.
Title: Re: Favourite Predator Movie?
Post by: Pu$$yFace on Feb 10, 2021, 06:39:39 PM
Quote from: Corporal Hicks on Feb 10, 2021, 06:38:37 AM
Quote from: Pu$$yFace on Feb 08, 2021, 05:15:45 AM
You keep telling yourself that kiddo.   :P 

It very much is a retread or remake. 

It is in that era of films where they change a little bit of set dressing to a cinematic classic but ultimately deliver the same movie.  IE: Force Awakens. 

Not to mention as an aside, a lot key points to the film are nonsensical and stupid.

With that said it's still decent and miles better than The Predator

Not in the slightest. Predators is no-where near the repeat that The Force Awakens. It's an entirely different plot compared to Predator for a start. It has a jungle settings, and repeats several story beats - most notably Billy's turn IMHO. To call it a retreat or repeat of Predator is entirely incorrect. If you don't like the repeated beats - I loathe reused dialogue - that's fine, but it's not in any way shape or form a remake/retread of Predator.
No it's definitely the exact same movie broski.

The overwhelming majority agrees on this aspect. I'm not the first person to suggest it. I don't care if you really like the movie, I myself find it tolerable, but definitely inferior to the first two films and essentially a pointless movie.

It is what it is. So many reviews state that when watching it, it's so desperately tries to just be the original film, yet released in 2010, that its whole existence is pointless, and just makes you want to watch the original again.

They just rework certain things.  Some of the things they did work and added cool new elements, most of it makes no goddamn sense.

Including the very premise of abducting and then dumping into an alien planet hunting preserve, where humans can breathe and other alien species all breathe?!  They also abduct original predators? What?

At that point you've already hunted them and captured them, so why re-hunt them?

Where is the thrill of the hunt, in hostile settings (as established in previous films) hunting them in a game preserve where they know the elements and the ground?

Also using vastly superior technology?  And having three of them to hunt?  Against random groups of individuals who don't even have the strength of being a team like in the original film or the sequel?

They're not hunters in hostile territory. A kin to a human going to Africa to hunt lions in their element.

All it unintentionally does is defeat the purpose of making them big bad blood "super predators", they look ridiculously inferior to the two lone hunters in the first two films.

It actually makes them look like pussies by comparison.  Jungle and City Hunter went into hostile territory, surrounded by the big game they hunt, elite deadly game at that with own weapons and fought on their lonesome on their prey's turf.

That's what gives predator its dimension. As a character. It's like an alien samurai hunter. It has a moral code. While simultaneously also being utterly frightening.

Why is the alien planet just essentially a repeat of the South American jungle setting from the first film? It's shameless.  The only remote difference between that setting, is a few artifacts of alien technology, and one brief shot of multiple planets or moon is in the background.

No different than force awakens, creed, where they essentially remake the original film to bring the nostalgia feels, just with slight different window dressing.

Predator 2 didn't need to do that. It was actually a different movie.  It advanced and added new wrinkles to the mythology. Ones that kept in line to the traditional rules established without breaking them.  But broadened everything in an interesting way.

There's a difference between paying homage, and literally taking so much from the original material beat for beat, music for music, scene for scene, that it essentially becomes a soft remake.

It's not even a reboot. Batman Begins compared to Batman 89 is an entirely different movie. That is a reboot.  Same character, same mythology, yet totally different interpretation and new story.  IE rebooted.

Force Awakens, Creed, and several others like Predators are soft remakes.

Why watch such pointless franchise cash grabs, when you could just watch the more innovative and better quality original version?

Wasn't an out and out hard remakes likes a Nightmare on Elm Street 2010.  But it's definitely a remake.

It's not just tipping its hat and paying homage at certain points. Mind you, Predator 2, which came out three years after the original, didn't have as many shameless and groan inducing "homages"
Title: Re: Favourite Predator Movie?
Post by: Kradan on Feb 10, 2021, 06:44:39 PM
Truth is somewhere in between
Title: Re: Favourite Predator Movie?
Post by: Pu$$yFace on Feb 10, 2021, 06:47:24 PM
Quote from: Kradan on Feb 10, 2021, 06:44:39 PM
Truth is somewhere in between
Thus why I came up with a new term classifying it as "soft remake"
Title: Re: Favourite Predator Movie?
Post by: HuDaFuK on Feb 10, 2021, 10:12:18 PM
Quote from: Pu$$yFace on Feb 10, 2021, 06:39:39 PMThe overwhelming majority agrees on this aspect.

Have you personally questioned the overwhelming majority to confirm this?
Title: Re: Favourite Predator Movie?
Post by: Pu$$yFace on Feb 10, 2021, 10:15:41 PM
Quote from: HuDaFuK on Feb 10, 2021, 10:12:18 PM
Quote from: Pu$$yFace on Feb 10, 2021, 06:39:39 PMThe overwhelming majority agrees on this aspect.

Have you personally questioned the overwhelming majority to confirm this?
Yes, I've taken polls.   ;D

No, all you have to do is watch several reviews on YouTube, they all basically echo the exact same sentiment
Title: Re: Favourite Predator Movie?
Post by: Voodoo Magic on Feb 11, 2021, 12:07:44 AM
It has a culmative effect for many.

1. Instead of an Earth jungle, this time it's an alien planet that just looks like an Earth jungle!

2. Instead of fast-roping this time and the heroes are picked off one by one they're dropped in the jungle and picked off one by one!

3. Instead of Blain holding a comical mini-gun that doesnt belong in a jungle, it was a Russian soldier holding a comical mini-gun that doesn't belong in the jungle!

4.This time it's Mombassa slow tension sensing someone watching them in the trees as Isabelle comes to talk to him, instead of Billy sensing someone in the trees and Dutch comes to talk to him.

5. This time the guy in the group with an alterior motive is not C.I.A Dillon, but a serial killer!

6. This time it's not the South/Cental American Anna explaining more about the Predator to the heroes, but it's the South/Cental American Isabelle explaining more about the Predator to the heroes.

7.This time instead of one hero falling off a cliff into a lake to escape the Predator, many heroes fall off a cliff into a lake to escape the Predators!

8. This time instead of an almost spiritual Native American that stops running with his group to confront the Predator, it's an almost spiritual Japan Native that stops running with his group to confront the Predator!

9. This time instead of Billy taking off his shirt branding a knife to confront the Predator, Hanzo takes of his shirt branding a sword! And we see the fight!

10.This time the shirtless hero doesn't cover his body at the end of the movie with mud, but the shirtless hero covers his body at the end of the movie with alien mud!

Come on, kill me!!!

And much of this is repeated to the same musical score selections and beats.

Again, I think for many it has a culmative effect.

For some this doesn't bother and that's awesome and not an incorrect position. For others it builds up either consciously or subconsciously and irritates, and that sucks and is also not an incorrect position.

But regardless of how one feels about this retreading (not remaking), neither The Predator or Predator 2 feels like it's aping the 1987 original in aspects and receives subsequent backlash for it... even though both Predator 2 and The Predator contain some homages themselves. When there's smoke there's fire and simply put, I believe Predators needed a lot more of its own identity within its script, other than its premise.
Title: Re: Favourite Predator Movie?
Post by: SiL on Feb 11, 2021, 12:23:01 AM
A team of commandos sent on a mission find themselves stalked and killed by an intergalactic big game hunter out for the thrill of the hunt.

A police squad investigating gang crime finds itself stalked and killed by an intergalactic big game hunter out for the thrill of the hunt.

A group of killers from around the world are kidnapped and dropped on a game reserve to be stalked and hunted by intergalactic big game hunters trying to genetically modify themselves into super hunters.

If you go by the plots, Predator 2 is closer to the original than Predators (there's even the shifty government agent guy who sacrifices themselves to give the hero time to escape!). But Predator 2 dresses its 'derivative' (for want of a better word) plot with its own unique elements, whereas Predators dresses  its unique plot with a patchwork of scenes from Predator.

It's a little disingenuous to say Predators is a straight rehash of the original, but it's definitely presented as a Greatest Hits compilation.
Title: Re: Favourite Predator Movie?
Post by: Pu$$yFace on Feb 11, 2021, 02:58:42 AM
There is nothing in the actual film predators that implies they're  genetically modifying themselves to be better hunters, for starters.  It's just presented as they're a different breed, clan or race within the Predator aliens.

The Predator is where they explicitly state they're genetically modifying themselves and the pinnacle is apparently retardation and autism.

In Predators?  They already can kidnap people in total stealth in a foreign environment... to drop them off on an alien planet. What more would they need to do in order to modify?

Greatest hits compilation?  Retread?  All just synonyms for remake.

Soft remake, retread, whatever you wanna call it.  It has a distinct feeling of not being it's own movie.

Obviously the concept of predator should be similar as a franchise.  But the beat for beat aping in a multitude of scenes, music, characters, that's what makes it a soft remake or a retread.  Or whatever you want to call it to not step on toes of various posters feelings in here.

Predator 2 didn't do that at all.  Yes, the concept was faithful to the essence of the franchise but it was a different movie.  It was almost a crime drama mystery with sci fi horror mixed in.  The setting and characters are their interactions are totally different.

Predators mimics even aspects to character interactions.

The Predator doesn't do that at all either.  No matter how bad it is, you can at least say it's unique and it's own vision.

The first movie was a sci-fi horror action movie. As is predators.  Just in an "alien jungle" that somehow looks inexplicably and un-imaginatively just like an earthly jungle.

It's a pointless movie.  Same setting.  Same beats. I can't say that for Predator 2 and even Shane Black's turd parody The Predator.

I guess Ghostbusters 2016 isn't a "remake" either, using that lack of logic.
Title: Re: Favourite Predator Movie?
Post by: BigDaddyJohn on Feb 11, 2021, 11:12:18 AM
Quote from: Voodoo Magic on Feb 11, 2021, 12:07:44 AM
It has a culmative effect for many.

1. Instead of an Earth jungle, this time it's an alien planet that just looks like an Earth jungle!

2. Instead of fast-roping this time and the heroes are picked off one by one they're dropped in the jungle and picked off one by one!

3. Instead of Blain holding a comical mini-gun that doesnt belong in a jungle, it was a Russian soldier holding a comical mini-gun that doesn't belong in the jungle!

4.This time it's Mombassa slow tension sensing someone watching them in the trees as Isabelle comes to talk to him, instead of Billy sensing someone in the trees and Dutch comes to talk to him.

5. This time the guy in the group with an alterior motive is not C.I.A Dillon, but a serial killer!

6. This time it's not the South/Cental American Anna explaining more about the Predator to the heroes, but it's the South/Cental American Isabelle explaining more about the Predator to the heroes.

7.This time instead of one hero falling off a cliff into a lake to escape the Predator, many heroes fall off a cliff into a lake to escape the Predators!

8. This time instead of an almost spiritual Native American that stops running with his group to confront the Predator, it's an almost spiritual Japan Native that stops running with his group to confront the Predator!

9. This time instead of Billy taking off his shirt branding a knife to confront the Predator, Hanzo takes of his shirt branding a sword! And we see the fight!

10.This time the shirtless hero doesn't cover his body at the end of the movie with mud, but the shirtless hero covers his body at the end of the movie with alien mud!

Come on, kill me!!!

And much of this is repeated to the same musical score selections and beats.

Again, I think for many it has a culmative effect.

Exactly this. That is why I genuinely prefer The Predator over Predators, I think it's way more memorable, engaging and daring. Too daring ? Most definitely, but hey, I'll take that over a too strong deja vu feeling.
Title: Re: Favourite Predator Movie?
Post by: Corporal Hicks on Feb 11, 2021, 12:43:05 PM
Quote from: SiL on Feb 11, 2021, 12:23:01 AM
It's a little disingenuous to say Predators is a straight rehash of the original, but it's definitely presented as a Greatest Hits compilation.

This. No-one is denying that Predators repeats beats from Predator. But it is in no way a remake of the original. Entirely different story structure and driving plot. Aliens is more a remake of Alien than Predators is of Predator. You wanna call it a soft reboot, I wont disagree with that. That was its purpose - to reboot interest in the franchise. But it isn't a remake/rehash. Never was, never will be.

Quote from: BigDaddyJohn on Feb 11, 2021, 11:12:18 AM
6. This time it's not the South/Cental American Anna explaining more about the Predator to the heroes, but it's the South/Cental American Isabelle explaining more about the Predator to the heroes.

She's Israeli.

Quote10.This time the shirtless hero doesn't cover his body at the end of the movie with mud, but the shirtless hero covers his body at the end of the movie with alien mud!

I forgive this one because Isabelle gives him this information. It makes sense within the context of the film.

QuoteAnd much of this is repeated to the same musical score selections and beats.

The Predator series has always heavily relied on repeated themes IMHO. I think this one is unfair to complain about.

QuoteAgain, I think for many it has a culmative effect.

Maybe, but the film isn't as full of repeated elements as you'd think from the way people talk about it being a remake. It's wholly incorrect to call it a remake or rehash. It simply isn't. There's far more unique elements to the film than there is repeated beats, and those repeats are more in the way of homage than anything significant plot-wise.
Title: Re: Favourite Predator Movie?
Post by: 426Buddy on Feb 11, 2021, 12:44:00 PM
Quote from: BigDaddyJohn on Feb 11, 2021, 11:12:18 AM
Quote from: Voodoo Magic on Feb 11, 2021, 12:07:44 AM
It has a culmative effect for many.

1. Instead of an Earth jungle, this time it's an alien planet that just looks like an Earth jungle!

2. Instead of fast-roping this time and the heroes are picked off one by one they're dropped in the jungle and picked off one by one!

3. Instead of Blain holding a comical mini-gun that doesnt belong in a jungle, it was a Russian soldier holding a comical mini-gun that doesn't belong in the jungle!

4.This time it's Mombassa slow tension sensing someone watching them in the trees as Isabelle comes to talk to him, instead of Billy sensing someone in the trees and Dutch comes to talk to him.

5. This time the guy in the group with an alterior motive is not C.I.A Dillon, but a serial killer!

6. This time it's not the South/Cental American Anna explaining more about the Predator to the heroes, but it's the South/Cental American Isabelle explaining more about the Predator to the heroes.

7.This time instead of one hero falling off a cliff into a lake to escape the Predator, many heroes fall off a cliff into a lake to escape the Predators!

8. This time instead of an almost spiritual Native American that stops running with his group to confront the Predator, it's an almost spiritual Japan Native that stops running with his group to confront the Predator!

9. This time instead of Billy taking off his shirt branding a knife to confront the Predator, Hanzo takes of his shirt branding a sword! And we see the fight!

10.This time the shirtless hero doesn't cover his body at the end of the movie with mud, but the shirtless hero covers his body at the end of the movie with alien mud!

Come on, kill me!!!

And much of this is repeated to the same musical score selections and beats.

Again, I think for many it has a culmative effect.

Exactly this. That is why I genuinely prefer The Predator over Predators, I think it's way more memorable, engaging and daring. Too daring ? Most definitely, but hey, I'll take that over a too strong deja vu feeling.

Yeah no, The Predator is so terrible that it makes all the previous films look like gold.

At least Predators is a coherent and competently made film for ffs.  The Predator is just a mess that makes my eyes roll right out of my head within the first 15 minutes. It's what I like to call "garbage".
Title: Re: Favourite Predator Movie?
Post by: Kradan on Feb 11, 2021, 02:07:37 PM
Quote from: BigDaddyJohn on Feb 11, 2021, 11:12:18 AM
Quote from: Voodoo Magic on Feb 11, 2021, 12:07:44 AM
It has a culmative effect for many.

1. Instead of an Earth jungle, this time it's an alien planet that just looks like an Earth jungle!

2. Instead of fast-roping this time and the heroes are picked off one by one they're dropped in the jungle and picked off one by one!

3. Instead of Blain holding a comical mini-gun that doesnt belong in a jungle, it was a Russian soldier holding a comical mini-gun that doesn't belong in the jungle!

4.This time it's Mombassa slow tension sensing someone watching them in the trees as Isabelle comes to talk to him, instead of Billy sensing someone in the trees and Dutch comes to talk to him.

5. This time the guy in the group with an alterior motive is not C.I.A Dillon, but a serial killer!

6. This time it's not the South/Cental American Anna explaining more about the Predator to the heroes, but it's the South/Cental American Isabelle explaining more about the Predator to the heroes.

7.This time instead of one hero falling off a cliff into a lake to escape the Predator, many heroes fall off a cliff into a lake to escape the Predators!

8. This time instead of an almost spiritual Native American that stops running with his group to confront the Predator, it's an almost spiritual Japan Native that stops running with his group to confront the Predator!

9. This time instead of Billy taking off his shirt branding a knife to confront the Predator, Hanzo takes of his shirt branding a sword! And we see the fight!

10.This time the shirtless hero doesn't cover his body at the end of the movie with mud, but the shirtless hero covers his body at the end of the movie with alien mud!

Come on, kill me!!!

And much of this is repeated to the same musical score selections and beats.

Again, I think for many it has a culmative effect.

Exactly this. That is why I genuinely prefer The Predator over Predators, I think it's way more memorable, engaging and daring. Too daring ? Most definitely, but hey, I'll take that over a too strong deja vu feeling.

:-*


Quote from: 426Buddy on Feb 11, 2021, 12:44:00 PM
Quote from: BigDaddyJohn on Feb 11, 2021, 11:12:18 AM
Quote from: Voodoo Magic on Feb 11, 2021, 12:07:44 AM
It has a culmative effect for many.

1. Instead of an Earth jungle, this time it's an alien planet that just looks like an Earth jungle!

2. Instead of fast-roping this time and the heroes are picked off one by one they're dropped in the jungle and picked off one by one!

3. Instead of Blain holding a comical mini-gun that doesnt belong in a jungle, it was a Russian soldier holding a comical mini-gun that doesn't belong in the jungle!

4.This time it's Mombassa slow tension sensing someone watching them in the trees as Isabelle comes to talk to him, instead of Billy sensing someone in the trees and Dutch comes to talk to him.

5. This time the guy in the group with an alterior motive is not C.I.A Dillon, but a serial killer!

6. This time it's not the South/Cental American Anna explaining more about the Predator to the heroes, but it's the South/Cental American Isabelle explaining more about the Predator to the heroes.

7.This time instead of one hero falling off a cliff into a lake to escape the Predator, many heroes fall off a cliff into a lake to escape the Predators!

8. This time instead of an almost spiritual Native American that stops running with his group to confront the Predator, it's an almost spiritual Japan Native that stops running with his group to confront the Predator!

9. This time instead of Billy taking off his shirt branding a knife to confront the Predator, Hanzo takes of his shirt branding a sword! And we see the fight!

10.This time the shirtless hero doesn't cover his body at the end of the movie with mud, but the shirtless hero covers his body at the end of the movie with alien mud!

Come on, kill me!!!

And much of this is repeated to the same musical score selections and beats.

Again, I think for many it has a culmative effect.

Exactly this. That is why I genuinely prefer The Predator over Predators, I think it's way more memorable, engaging and daring. Too daring ? Most definitely, but hey, I'll take that over a too strong deja vu feeling.

Yeah no, The Predator is so terrible that it makes all the previous films look like gold.

At least Predators is a coherent and competently made film for ffs.  The Predator is just a mess that makes my eyes roll right out of my head within the first 15 minutes. It's what I like to call "garbage".

>:(
Title: Re: Favourite Predator Movie?
Post by: BigDaddyJohn on Feb 11, 2021, 02:21:35 PM
Quote from: 426Buddy on Feb 11, 2021, 12:44:00 PM
Quote from: BigDaddyJohn on Feb 11, 2021, 11:12:18 AM
Quote from: Voodoo Magic on Feb 11, 2021, 12:07:44 AM
It has a culmative effect for many.

1. Instead of an Earth jungle, this time it's an alien planet that just looks like an Earth jungle!

2. Instead of fast-roping this time and the heroes are picked off one by one they're dropped in the jungle and picked off one by one!

3. Instead of Blain holding a comical mini-gun that doesnt belong in a jungle, it was a Russian soldier holding a comical mini-gun that doesn't belong in the jungle!

4.This time it's Mombassa slow tension sensing someone watching them in the trees as Isabelle comes to talk to him, instead of Billy sensing someone in the trees and Dutch comes to talk to him.

5. This time the guy in the group with an alterior motive is not C.I.A Dillon, but a serial killer!

6. This time it's not the South/Cental American Anna explaining more about the Predator to the heroes, but it's the South/Cental American Isabelle explaining more about the Predator to the heroes.

7.This time instead of one hero falling off a cliff into a lake to escape the Predator, many heroes fall off a cliff into a lake to escape the Predators!

8. This time instead of an almost spiritual Native American that stops running with his group to confront the Predator, it's an almost spiritual Japan Native that stops running with his group to confront the Predator!

9. This time instead of Billy taking off his shirt branding a knife to confront the Predator, Hanzo takes of his shirt branding a sword! And we see the fight!

10.This time the shirtless hero doesn't cover his body at the end of the movie with mud, but the shirtless hero covers his body at the end of the movie with alien mud!

Come on, kill me!!!

And much of this is repeated to the same musical score selections and beats.

Again, I think for many it has a culmative effect.

Exactly this. That is why I genuinely prefer The Predator over Predators, I think it's way more memorable, engaging and daring. Too daring ? Most definitely, but hey, I'll take that over a too strong deja vu feeling.

Yeah no, The Predator is so terrible that it makes all the previous films look like gold.

At least Predators is a coherent and competently made film for ffs.  The Predator is just a mess that makes my eyes roll right out of my head within the first 15 minutes. It's what I like to call "garbage".

Competently made I agree, from a directing standpoint. And more so than The Predator no doubt about it.

Coherent ?  :laugh:
Title: Re: Favourite Predator Movie?
Post by: 426Buddy on Feb 11, 2021, 03:11:08 PM
Not sure what's funny. It's hard to argue that The Predator is an in-coherent mess of a film.

Predators doesn't have that issue.
Title: Re: Favourite Predator Movie?
Post by: HuDaFuK on Feb 11, 2021, 03:22:09 PM
Quote from: Voodoo Magic on Feb 11, 2021, 12:07:44 AMAnd much of this is repeated to the same musical score selections and beats.

As someone who we all know loves Predator 2 so much, the second film is far more guilty of recycling score in similar situations than Predators is.
Title: Re: Favourite Predator Movie?
Post by: Kradan on Feb 11, 2021, 03:29:16 PM
Sick, sick burn
Title: Re: Favourite Predator Movie?
Post by: BigDaddyJohn on Feb 11, 2021, 04:11:01 PM
Quote from: 426Buddy on Feb 11, 2021, 03:11:08 PM
Not sure what's funny. It's hard to argue that The Predator is an in-coherent mess of a film.

Predators doesn't have that issue.

Predators being less incoherent than The Predator doesn't make it a coherent movie. How it's incoherent has been pointed out many times on this forum, feel free to check it out.

And oh yes I find the Predators coherence subject funny.
Title: Re: Favourite Predator Movie?
Post by: Voodoo Magic on Feb 11, 2021, 04:13:51 PM
Quote from: SiL on Feb 11, 2021, 12:23:01 AM
A team of commandos sent on a mission find themselves stalked and killed by an intergalactic big game hunter out for the thrill of the hunt.

A police squad investigating gang crime finds itself stalked and killed by an intergalactic big game hunter out for the thrill of the hunt.

A group of killers from around the world are kidnapped and dropped on a game reserve to be stalked and hunted by intergalactic big game hunters trying to genetically modify themselves into super hunters.

If you go by the plots, Predator 2 is closer to the original than Predators (there's even the shifty government agent guy who sacrifices themselves to give the hero time to escape!). But Predator 2 dresses its 'derivative' (for want of a better word) plot with its own unique elements, whereas Predators dresses  its unique plot with a patchwork of scenes from Predator.

It's a little disingenuous to say Predators is a straight rehash of the original, but it's definitely presented as a Greatest Hits compilation.

That's a fair assessment I think.

Quote from: Corporal Hicks on Feb 11, 2021, 12:43:05 PM
QuoteAgain, I think for many it has a culmative effect.

Maybe, but the film isn't as full of repeated elements as you'd think from the way people talk about it being a remake. It's wholly incorrect to call it a remake or rehash. It simply isn't. There's far more unique elements to the film than there is repeated beats, and those repeats are more in the way of homage than anything significant plot-wise.

You'll never find me calling it a "remake".  I agree with you, it's not. But there's enough of this same criticism in professional critic reviews and audience reviews all beating the same drum, that one has to admit for some, that Predators should have strived for a little more individuality and its aping of Predator 87  went too far, versus it being a straight out invalid complaint I think. Again, I go to when there's smoke there's fire... :)

Quote from: HuDaFuK on Feb 11, 2021, 03:22:09 PM
Quote from: Voodoo Magic on Feb 11, 2021, 12:07:44 AMAnd much of this is repeated to the same musical score selections and beats.

As someone who we all know loves Predator 2 so much, the second film is far more guilty of recycling score in similar situations than Predators is.

If you feel that way, then why do think Predators gets this criticism repeatedly, where Predator 2 does not? I'm genuinely curious of your answer.
Title: Re: Favourite Predator Movie?
Post by: 426Buddy on Feb 11, 2021, 05:20:01 PM
Quote from: BigDaddyJohn on Feb 11, 2021, 04:11:01 PM
Quote from: 426Buddy on Feb 11, 2021, 03:11:08 PM
Not sure what's funny. It's hard to argue that The Predator is an in-coherent mess of a film.

Predators doesn't have that issue.

Predators being less incoherent than The Predator doesn't make it a coherent movie. How it's incoherent has been pointed out many times on this forum, feel free to check it out.

And oh yes I find the Predators coherence subject funny.

What about Predators makes it an incoherent film? The scenes flow logically and I'm never confused as to what's going on and why.

Title: Re: Favourite Predator Movie?
Post by: BigDaddyJohn on Feb 11, 2021, 05:50:45 PM
Quote from: 426Buddy on Feb 11, 2021, 05:20:01 PM
Quote from: BigDaddyJohn on Feb 11, 2021, 04:11:01 PM
Quote from: 426Buddy on Feb 11, 2021, 03:11:08 PM
Not sure what's funny. It's hard to argue that The Predator is an in-coherent mess of a film.

Predators doesn't have that issue.

Predators being less incoherent than The Predator doesn't make it a coherent movie. How it's incoherent has been pointed out many times on this forum, feel free to check it out.

And oh yes I find the Predators coherence subject funny.

What about Predators makes it an incoherent film? The scenes flow logically and I'm never confused as to what's going on and why.

In that sense I agree, but numerous times it's incoherent regarding the franchise itself.
Title: Re: Favourite Predator Movie?
Post by: Kradan on Feb 11, 2021, 06:23:04 PM
Quote from: Voodoo Magic on Feb 11, 2021, 04:13:51 PM
Quote from: HuDaFuK on Feb 11, 2021, 03:22:09 PM
Quote from: Voodoo Magic on Feb 11, 2021, 12:07:44 AMAnd much of this is repeated to the same musical score selections and beats.

As someone who we all know loves Predator 2 so much, the second film is far more guilty of recycling score in similar situations than Predators is.

If you feel that way, then why do think Predators gets this criticism repeatedly, where Predator 2 does not? I'm genuinely curious of your answer.

Predator 2 has one specific problem that overshadows all other issues with the film

Spoiler
Arnold ain't in it so it SUX !!!
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Title: Re: Favourite Predator Movie?
Post by: HuDaFuK on Feb 11, 2021, 07:15:02 PM
Quote from: Voodoo Magic on Feb 11, 2021, 04:13:51 PMIf you feel that way, then why do think Predators gets this criticism repeatedly, where Predator 2 does not? I'm genuinely curious of your answer.

I have no idea.

The reuse of music has never been an issue for me in either film. In fact I think it works in both.

But of the two, Predator 2 is definitely the more prolific with it.
Title: Re: Favourite Predator Movie?
Post by: 426Buddy on Feb 11, 2021, 11:20:47 PM
Quote from: BigDaddyJohn on Feb 11, 2021, 05:50:45 PM
Quote from: 426Buddy on Feb 11, 2021, 05:20:01 PM
Quote from: BigDaddyJohn on Feb 11, 2021, 04:11:01 PM
Quote from: 426Buddy on Feb 11, 2021, 03:11:08 PM
Not sure what's funny. It's hard to argue that The Predator is an in-coherent mess of a film.

Predators doesn't have that issue.

Predators being less incoherent than The Predator doesn't make it a coherent movie. How it's incoherent has been pointed out many times on this forum, feel free to check it out.

And oh yes I find the Predators coherence subject funny.

What about Predators makes it an incoherent film? The scenes flow logically and I'm never confused as to what's going on and why.

In that sense I agree, but numerous times it's incoherent regarding the franchise itself.

Yeah I'm not speaking to the lore it adds to the franchise, which was vague but not really incoherent either IMO.

I was pretty disappointed with Predators overall and I share a lot of the criticisms that Voodoo has. But I don't see it as a remake at all myself, I think even just the jungle setting alone is enough to make the casuals think remake. But the film has grown on me over time and I think it's gold compared to The Predator. There are aspects I really love about it, like the characters (not including Roland). I love Adrien Brody in this film though, really comes off as a badass. For every thing that bothers me there is something really cool that I love. For every guy with a minigun there is a Brody with an automatic shotgun.

I also think everything after P2 has suffered because KPH and Stan Winston are f*cking irreplaceable. Do I love  Predator 2 more? Hells yes! But The Predator doesn't even come close to any of the previous films, it's just soo bad.

Title: Re: Favourite Predator Movie?
Post by: SiL on Feb 12, 2021, 02:37:49 AM
Quote from: HuDaFuK on Feb 11, 2021, 07:15:02 PM
Quote from: Voodoo Magic on Feb 11, 2021, 04:13:51 PMIf you feel that way, then why do think Predators gets this criticism repeatedly, where Predator 2 does not? I'm genuinely curious of your answer.

I have no idea.

The reuse of music has never been an issue for me in either film. In fact I think it works in both.

But of the two, Predator 2 is definitely the more prolific with it.
I never got the complaints with Predators' soundtrack. Predator 2 lifts tracks wholesale from the original while building on it with unique themes and elements. It's actually why it's my favourite of the series' soundtracks -- it's everything that's good in the original, plus extra cool tracks.

Whereas Predators mostly does new renditions of the classic themes along with its own unique music and everyone says it's just a straight ripoff.
Title: Re: Favourite Predator Movie?
Post by: BlueMarsalis79 on Feb 12, 2021, 02:46:32 AM
Alan Silvestri, Predators' Score just does not have the degree of depth or texture that Predator or Predator 2's carries, although I did like this part:

https://youtu.be/EiiWU7OvoEM

Particularly the first minute.
Title: Re: Favourite Predator Movie?
Post by: SiL on Feb 12, 2021, 02:49:03 AM
I won't argue the score is as good, I just can't agree it's somehow more derivative.
Title: Re: Favourite Predator Movie?
Post by: HuDaFuK on Feb 12, 2021, 09:14:37 AM
Yeah, everything SiL just said.
Title: Re: Favourite Predator Movie?
Post by: Voodoo Magic on Feb 12, 2021, 01:20:17 PM
Quote from: 426Buddy on Feb 11, 2021, 11:20:47 PM
I was pretty disappointed with Predators overall and I share a lot of the criticisms that Voodoo has. But I don't see it as a remake at all myself, I think even just the jungle setting alone is enough to make the casuals think remake. But the film has grown on me over time and I think it's gold compared to The Predator.

After repeat viewings and a loathing develop for Shane's film, The Predator definitely has helped my appreciation for Predators tremendously, much like Alien Resurrection did for Alien3 for me years ago. I look in comparison and say, hey these suddenly don't seem so bad. I find the perspective transition interesting actually.

QuoteI also think everything after P2 has suffered because KPH and Stan Winston are f*cking irreplaceable. Do I love  Predator 2 more? Hells yes! But The Predator doesn't even come close to any of the previous films, it's just soo bad.

My Man!

(https://i.imgur.com/boyRiZp.gif)

Quote from: Trash Queen on Feb 12, 2021, 02:46:32 AM
Alan Silvestri, Predators' Score just does not have the degree of depth or texture that Predator or Predator 2's carries, although I did like this part:

https://youtu.be/EiiWU7OvoEM

Particularly the first minute.

I couldn't agree more.

Silvestri is simply just one of the greats!
Title: Re: Favourite Predator Movie?
Post by: Kradan on Feb 12, 2021, 01:24:42 PM
Only Silvestri can rip-off Silvestri
Title: Re: Favourite Predator Movie?
Post by: Voodoo Magic on Feb 12, 2021, 01:31:57 PM
Quote from: Kradan on Feb 12, 2021, 01:24:42 PM
Only Silvestri can rip-off Silvestri

Build upon. Add. Improve. Like Brad Fiedel did when he returned for another composer round of cybernetic action with Terminator 2: Judgment Day.  Get your hands on the 2 disc unabridged set of Silvestri's Predator 2 soundtrack and imo you're holding the pinnacle of Predator soundtracks.
Title: Re: Favourite Predator Movie?
Post by: Kradan on Feb 12, 2021, 02:16:29 PM
To be fair to Fiedel, his scores for T1 and for T2 (apart from main theme of course) are quite different beasts while Silvestri's score for P2 reminds me A LOT of first movie's score
Title: Re: Favourite Predator Movie?
Post by: KiramidHead on Feb 12, 2021, 02:56:57 PM
Quote from: Kradan on Feb 12, 2021, 01:24:42 PM
Only Silvestri can rip-off Silvestri

Self rip off was more James Horner's thing.
Title: Re: Favourite Predator Movie?
Post by: Kradan on Feb 12, 2021, 03:15:28 PM
Well, I meant if there's someone who can re-use composer's score - it's gotta be the composer himself

And, yeah. I distinctly remember watxhing Avatar and when main hero was grabbed by that giant dog-like creature by his backpack I thought " This music reminds me of Aliens"
Title: Re: Favourite Predator Movie?
Post by: HuDaFuK on Feb 12, 2021, 08:14:12 PM
Quote from: KiramidHead on Feb 12, 2021, 02:56:57 PMSelf rip off was more James Horner's thing.

Always get a good giggle out of the score for Aliens showing up in Commando a year before Aliens was released.
Title: Re: Favourite Predator Movie?
Post by: KiramidHead on Feb 12, 2021, 08:15:11 PM
Quote from: HuDaFuK on Feb 12, 2021, 08:14:12 PM
Quote from: KiramidHead on Feb 12, 2021, 02:56:57 PMSelf rip off was more James Horner's thing.

Always get a good giggle out of the score for Aliens showing up in Commando a year before Aliens was released.

And at least one cue was in Wrath of Khan.
Title: Re: Favourite Predator Movie?
Post by: HuDaFuK on Feb 12, 2021, 08:27:08 PM
As you say, he did it a lot. But the Commando one has always struck me as particularly funny because it gives the feeling of those 80s/90s action C-movies that literally recycle the score from other films. It's so incongruous hearing music from a film as nuanced as Aliens in a film as mindless as Commando :laugh:

On the subject of Predators, we caught a bit of it on TV the other night, and much to my surprise Jenny said she liked the look of it and wanted to see the whole thing some time. (Her assertion that the premise was "a bit like Hunger Games but in space" was less pleasing :laugh:) I'll show it her when I finally get my films out of storage, but I'm not entirely convinced.
Title: Re: Favourite Predator Movie?
Post by: BlueMarsalis79 on Feb 12, 2021, 08:28:33 PM
Hunger Games...
Title: Re: Favourite Predator Movie?
Post by: Voodoo Magic on Feb 12, 2021, 09:53:01 PM
Royce Everdeen?
Title: Re: Favourite Predator Movie?
Post by: BlueMarsalis79 on Feb 13, 2021, 01:18:59 AM
Just ugh.
Title: Re: Favourite Predator Movie?
Post by: KiramidHead on Feb 13, 2021, 05:21:10 AM
Look at it this way with Predators: it's a goddamn masterpiece compared to the 1996 Rodriguez script. :laugh:
Title: Re: Favourite Predator Movie?
Post by: Huggs on Feb 13, 2021, 05:51:52 AM
That the one with the dick?
Title: Re: Favourite Predator Movie?
Post by: BlueMarsalis79 on Feb 13, 2021, 05:55:46 AM
Dare I genuinely ask?
Title: Re: Favourite Predator Movie?
Post by: Huggs on Feb 13, 2021, 06:03:51 AM
I've heard tell of a scene. There was a weenie, you see, and it was almost for supper.
Title: Re: Favourite Predator Movie?
Post by: KiramidHead on Feb 13, 2021, 06:13:11 AM
Quote from: Huggs on Feb 13, 2021, 05:51:52 AM
That the one with the dick?

Yep. :laugh:

Quote from: Trash Queen on Feb 13, 2021, 05:55:46 AM
Dare I genuinely ask?

If you dare...

Spoiler
(https://i.imgur.com/iAV9lde.png)
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Title: Re: Favourite Predator Movie?
Post by: HuDaFuK on Feb 13, 2021, 12:05:18 PM
Rodriguez's script was like that scene in South Park with the idea manatees, except someone's poured 10 kilos of coke into the pool.
Title: Re: Favourite Predator Movie?
Post by: City Hunter Yautja on Jul 08, 2021, 01:55:04 AM
Predator is the best trophy of them all. However, I have a great fondness for Predator 2. It introduced so many iconic Yautja weapons like the Staff and the Smart Disc. I also am partial to the Pred 2 design.

I really enjoyed The Predator, particularly the Yautja's escape from the lab.
Title: Re: Favourite Predator Movie?
Post by: Master on Aug 07, 2021, 04:09:57 PM
Predator is the best of all, no doubt about it. Yet I find Predator 2 equally fun to watch. Predators and AvP are guilty pleasure for me. No way as good as previous two, but fun to watch at certain circumstances. The  Predator and AvP-R are garbage. I don't like them, but I'd lie saying I don't rewatch them sometimes.
Title: Re: Favourite Predator Movie?
Post by: nanison on Aug 08, 2021, 07:37:22 PM
predator 1 is an epic mysterious thriller, lots of suspense and full of memorable characters and lines. The reveal of the predator is one of the greatest scenes in cinematic history. I was hooked when I saw the film as a kid but also a bit puzzled by the lack of action, I definitely was a bit scared as well. Arnold's battle roar is goosebumps worthy, bring it on! The whole final act is brimming with suspense build up and wonder.

Predator 2 is completely different but equally fun. This is action packed with another colorful set of characters. The final act is action packed and spectacular. It is also a lot more gory than the first one. The only disappointing scene is the train scene which is way too dark. Loved the setting, a second jungle setting could never have equalled the first film, this one does in a different way.

The rest of the franchise? Dog poo
Title: Re: Favourite Predator Movie?
Post by: City Hunter Yautja on Sep 18, 2021, 09:54:46 PM
Its definitive for me. Predator 2 is my favorite. It feels so cathartic to watch.
Title: Re: Favourite Predator Movie?
Post by: HuDaFuK on Sep 19, 2021, 08:59:26 AM
As much as I like Predator 2, I can't bring myself to say it's better than the original.

That said, I think Predator 2 has the single best scene of any Predator movie, namely King Willie's showdown with the City Hunter. Not only is that sequence fantastically edited and scored, and full of some truly memorable effects work, it's a great showcase for how to reference a previous movie - Billy's death - without it feeling heavy-handed.
Title: Re: Favourite Predator Movie?
Post by: City Hunter Yautja on Sep 19, 2021, 03:54:07 PM
Quote from: HuDaFuK on Sep 19, 2021, 08:59:26 AM
As much as I like Predator 2, I can't bring myself to say it's better than the original.

That said, I think Predator 2 has the single best scene of any Predator movie, namely King Willie's showdown with the City Hunter. Not only is that sequence fantastically edited and scored, and full of some truly memorable effects work, it's a great showcase for how to reference a previous movie - Billy's death - without it feeling heavy-handed.

The King Willie showdown is epic. Everything about that scene is so tightly shot, nothing overblown or wasted. I love the footsteps in the water, and then when the cloak come off you see the reflection of the Predator in the pool. So much care was put into those scenes, same with the rest of the film, especially the Meat Locker.
Title: Re: Favourite Predator Movie?
Post by: Omegamorph on Oct 25, 2021, 03:26:58 PM
you know the line


see signature
Title: Re: Favourite Predator Movie?
Post by: BlueMarsalis79 on Oct 25, 2021, 04:30:19 PM
"D- d- d- d- danny boy..."
Title: Re: Favourite Predator Movie?
Post by: Voodoo Magic on Oct 25, 2021, 10:02:03 PM
Quote from: Omegamorph on Oct 25, 2021, 03:26:58 PM
you know the line


see signature


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Title: Re: Favourite Predator Movie?
Post by: Nightmare Asylum on Feb 07, 2022, 12:33:01 PM
Watched both Predator and Predator 2 last night for the first time since 2018 when The Predator really soured me on all of this. Forgot just how much I love both of these – Predator as a damn near perfect 80s actioner-turned-slasher, and Predator 2, which technically isn't as good as the first even though it is my preferred of the two, as a schlocky/grindhousey, cocaine-fueled, hyper-violent expansion of the first one. They make for one Hell of a fun double feature. I'm glad I held off so long on revisiting these movies again after 2018, 'cause coming in as fresh as I did after so long a gap made them feel really special all over again.

Really hoping that Prey lives up to the spirit of these two movies – the relentless energy, the grime and sweat, the "dump a Predator into a film of another genre" mentality that Predator and Predator 2 operated on. I like Trachtenberg, and from what we know the structure of Prey feels like it should be much more in line with these first two films than the more recent entries in the series were, which bodes well.

Also, how did we get such an insanely cool spaceship interior in Predator 2 only for every subsequent film to just default to a chrome interior? Also not sure how we ended up with years of "honorable space Samurai" Predator stories coming off of the back of these two dickhead Predators, but that's another story. :D
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Post by: Voodoo Magic on Feb 07, 2022, 09:45:15 PM
Quote from: Nightmare Asylum on Feb 07, 2022, 12:33:01 PM
Also, how did we get such an insanely cool spaceship interior in Predator 2 only for every subsequent film to just default to a chrome interior?

This breaks my heart to this day.  :'(
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Post by: Corporal Hicks on Feb 08, 2022, 08:50:57 AM
It was something I talked about when we recorded our commentary for The Predator too. I miss that aesthetic so much.
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Post by: Kailem on Feb 09, 2022, 09:57:06 PM
I was glad to see it come back to a minor extent in the home world scene in AVPR, but yeah the clean, chrome ship interiors of the later films are just so bland and generic by comparison.
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Post by: Kradan on Feb 09, 2022, 10:12:09 PM
You just gave Voodoo another reason to love AvPR. Good job
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Post by: SiL on Feb 10, 2022, 12:06:40 AM
I kinda felt they just swapped generic chrome for generic stone.

Gimme that pulsating living wall vibe.
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Post by: Voodoo Magic on Feb 10, 2022, 04:31:30 AM
Quote from: Kailem on Feb 09, 2022, 09:57:06 PM
I was glad to see it come back to a minor extent in the home world scene in AVPR

Yah, indeed. 'Twas the Strause Brothers intent thankfully so. They couldn't change the ship drastically (thanks to AvP) but at least tried to make up for it incorporating those P2 Ship aesthetics into their homeworld. 👏

Quotebut yeah the clean, chrome ship interiors of the later films are just so bland and generic by comparison.

Painfully so...

Quote from: Kradan on Feb 09, 2022, 10:12:09 PM
You just gave Voodoo another reason to love AvPR. Good job

It's transcendent isn't it.
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Post by: Elmazalman on Feb 10, 2022, 12:43:25 PM
The first two films.

The 1987 original is my absolute favourite PREDATOR film. The jungle setting is perfect.
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Post by: BlueMarsalis79 on Feb 23, 2022, 04:42:08 PM
Watched the original Predator for the first time in years last night in 4K on Disney+ absolutely gorgeous.
Looking forward to revisiting 2 soon.
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Post by: Voodoo Magic on Feb 25, 2022, 03:07:39 PM
Quote from: Elmazalman on Feb 10, 2022, 12:43:25 PM
The first two films.

The 1987 original is my absolute favourite PREDATOR film. The jungle setting is perfect.

"Jungles" can look pretty unspectacular with the wrong cinematography too, but Donald McAlpine & John McTiernan just nailed it!

(https://i.ibb.co/NYZRtCd/20220225-100626.jpg)
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Post by: Master Chief on Feb 25, 2022, 03:49:58 PM
The concrete jungle was filmed properly as well.
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Post by: Voodoo Magic on Feb 27, 2022, 03:49:18 AM
Quote from: Master Chief on Feb 25, 2022, 03:49:58 PM
The concrete jungle was filmed properly as well.

And how! 👏 👏 👏
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Post by: BlueMarsalis79 on Mar 05, 2022, 05:34:38 PM
Great entertainment that sequel.
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Post by: Voodoo Magic on Mar 06, 2022, 12:09:25 PM
Quote from: BlueMarsalis79 on Mar 05, 2022, 05:34:38 PM
Great entertainment that sequel.

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Post by: Elmazalman on Mar 10, 2022, 08:54:18 AM
The second film is almost as good as the original.

Don't really like the stuff that came after.
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Post by: Voodoo Magic on Mar 10, 2022, 01:25:07 PM
Quote from: Elmazalman on Mar 10, 2022, 08:54:18 AM
The second film is almost as good as the original.



(https://i.imgur.com/boyRiZp.gif)
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Post by: Billiken on Mar 12, 2022, 01:13:36 AM
Quote from: Voodoo Magic on Mar 10, 2022, 01:25:07 PM
Quote from: Elmazalman on Mar 10, 2022, 08:54:18 AM
The second film is almost as good as the original.



(https://i.imgur.com/boyRiZp.gif)

Predator 2 all the way. More action better Predator
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Post by: Voodoo Magic on Mar 12, 2022, 04:23:22 AM
Quote from: Billiken on Mar 12, 2022, 01:13:36 AM
Quote from: Voodoo Magic on Mar 10, 2022, 01:25:07 PM
Quote from: Elmazalman on Mar 10, 2022, 08:54:18 AM
The second film is almost as good as the original.



(https://i.imgur.com/boyRiZp.gif)

Predator 2 all the way. More action better Predator

My Man!

(https://i.imgur.com/boyRiZp.gif)
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Post by: Billiken on Mar 12, 2022, 12:55:00 PM
First saw it in 1994 played the sega game, fell totally in love with it. Visited Winston street in Los Angeles where opening shoot out takes place. Have the infinity and prime studios statues. Sparked my interest in aliens movies, love it. People say it feels 90s, well that's great 90s were awesome.
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Post by: Kradan on Mar 12, 2022, 01:37:07 PM
Quote from: Billiken on Mar 12, 2022, 12:55:00 PM
Winston street

:o
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Post by: Corporal Hicks on Mar 14, 2022, 09:16:07 AM
That's a heck of a coincidence! lol Man, I'd love to tour the P2 shooting locations.
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Post by: Billiken on Mar 14, 2022, 12:51:43 PM
Winston street which is opening sequence is not as big or wide as it looks. Still kind of recognisable. I quickly stood where they landed chopper in street. Eastern Columbia building is a gorgeous building.
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Post by: Voodoo Magic on Mar 14, 2022, 03:28:08 PM
I'd crouch here for a photo. I'd wear a yellow mustard shirt and everything.

(https://i.ibb.co/swstg5t/IMG-20220314-112510.jpg)
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Post by: City Hunter Yautja on Apr 01, 2022, 06:38:42 AM
Quote from: Billiken on Mar 12, 2022, 01:13:36 AM
Quote from: Voodoo Magic on Mar 10, 2022, 01:25:07 PM
Quote from: Elmazalman on Mar 10, 2022, 08:54:18 AM
The second film is almost as good as the original.



(https://i.imgur.com/boyRiZp.gif)

Predator 2 all the way. More action better Predator

Welcome to the Brotherhood.

(https://i.imgflip.com/f69fr.gif)
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Post by: Master on Apr 13, 2022, 06:25:14 PM
Quote from: Voodoo Magic on Mar 14, 2022, 03:28:08 PM
I'd crouch here for a photo. I'd wear a yellow mustard shirt and everything.

(https://i.ibb.co/swstg5t/IMG-20220314-112510.jpg)

This isn't mate painting, is it? Do we know exact location where it was shoot ?
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Post by: Voodoo Magic on Apr 18, 2022, 07:06:56 PM
Quote from: Master on Apr 13, 2022, 06:25:14 PM
Quote from: Voodoo Magic on Mar 14, 2022, 03:28:08 PM
I'd crouch here for a photo. I'd wear a yellow mustard shirt and everything.

(https://i.ibb.co/swstg5t/IMG-20220314-112510.jpg)

This isn't mate painting, is it? Do we know exact location where it was shoot ?

While there were some matte painted buildings used in "Predator 2", that scene was filmed on a real roof! The address is 604 South Main Street. I posted some satellite images so you can see the trajectory.  :)

(https://i.ibb.co/2FmCFnH/IMG-20220418-144930.jpg)
(https://i.ibb.co/YZM7dh9/Screenshot-20220418-144828-Earth.jpg)
(https://i.ibb.co/hfTMqZM/Screenshot-20220418-144914-Earth.jpg)