Alien TV Series From Noah Hawley and Ridley Scott CONFIRMED

Started by Nukiemorph, Dec 10, 2020, 11:03:29 PM

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GoroPredator

I feel like we're with Woody and his friends, trapped in that incinerator only nobody is holding hands  :'(

TomT

Quote from: Nightmare Asylum on Jul 02, 2021, 08:33:42 PM
Quote from: TomT on Jul 02, 2021, 08:08:03 PM
And Alien films were never pushy/forced with its themes.
Yeah, subtle.
Not subtle, but not pushy either. Anti-corporate undertones don't really mean that the entire movie is focused on anti-capitalism.

Vrastal

I am currently very excited for this. I hope its set fairly far into the future past alien 3. not sure if id want it post resurrection. but if it is pre resurrection i think we would know the aliens dont escape unless it gets retconned.

i seem to be in the minority thats happy its on earth. ive always wanted to see a highly populated planet get overtaken. i doubt it will be but who knows. i hope thye can get good costume and cg for it.

As long as it looks good, the story is good and the characters have depth to them and arent just checking off a box for inclusion i think itll be really solid

TomT

TomT

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Quote from: PAS Spinelli on Jul 02, 2021, 08:46:02 PM
Can you tell me what is subtle about "That damn corporation! What about our lifes!" or "Crew expandable"? Where is the undertone in "I don't know which species is worse"?
All that stuff makes sense in the context of those stories, situations and movie's universe, that's it. And the same time it's all background/secondary stuff, those movies weren't deep explorations of anti-capitalism or socialism, c'mon.

Quote from: PAS Spinelli on Jul 02, 2021, 08:46:02 PM
The motherhood theme(which comes with the SA one that you decided to ignore) is actually subtle, but the anti-corpo shit was always in your face.
SA is a separate theme from motherhood, those movies weren't deep explorations of SA either.
The motherhood theme wasn't subtle at all, it was the main theme of Aliens. Anti-corpo shit is just secondary stuff.

Nightmare Asylum

Explain to me what it is that keeps putting Ripley and company in the presence of those pesky Aliens again? What keeps trying to take those Aliens with zero regard for human lives, in favor of the almighty dollar?

TomT

Quote from: Nightmare Asylum on Jul 02, 2021, 09:25:10 PM
Explain to me what it is that keeps putting Ripley and company in the presence of those pesky Aliens again? What keeps trying to take those Aliens with zero regard for human lives, in favor of the almighty dollar?
Human greed which is not political. You can call it an exploration of a human nature if you want.

PAS Spinelli

Quote from: TomT on Jul 02, 2021, 09:29:23 PM
Quote from: Nightmare Asylum on Jul 02, 2021, 09:25:10 PM
Explain to me what it is that keeps putting Ripley and company in the presence of those pesky Aliens again? What keeps trying to take those Aliens with zero regard for human lives, in favor of the almighty dollar?
Human greed which is not political. You can call it an exploration of a human nature if you want.
Human greed is not political but it is part of political themes, now, what is greedy and is trying to take the Alien as a central plot point to these movies?


Quote from: TomT on Jul 02, 2021, 09:20:45 PM
Quote from: PAS Spinelli on Jul 02, 2021, 08:46:02 PM
Can you tell me what is subtle about "That damn corporation! What about our lifes!" or "Crew expandable"? Where is the undertone in "I don't know which species is worse"?
All that stuff makes sense in the context of those stories, situations and movie's universe, that's it. And the same time it's all background/secondary stuff, those movies weren't deep explorations of anti-capitalism or socialism, c'mon.

Quote from: PAS Spinelli on Jul 02, 2021, 08:46:02 PM
The motherhood theme(which comes with the SA one that you decided to ignore) is actually subtle, but the anti-corpo shit was always in your face.
SA is a separate theme from motherhood, those movies weren't deep explorations of SA either.
The motherhood theme wasn't subtle at all, it was the main theme of Aliens. Anti-corpo shit is just secondary stuff.
The Alien itself is an allegory of rape but whatever makes you feel better about yourself ig

[cancerblack]

Quote from: GoroPredator on Jul 02, 2021, 09:05:53 PM
I feel like we're with Woody and his friends, trapped in that incinerator only nobody is holding hands  :'(

"Help, I'm being genocided!"

TomT

TomT

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Quote from: PAS Spinelli on Jul 02, 2021, 09:34:19 PM
Human greed is not political but it is part of political themes, now, what is greedy and is trying to take the Alien as a central plot point to these movies?
But it's not just corpo, but also individuals. Do you think socialists in Alien universe wouldn't want to get this species? You can replace evil corporation with some evil marxist government and it would be the same thing, just with some red star flag instead of WY logo.

Quote from: PAS Spinelli on Jul 02, 2021, 08:46:02 PM
The Alien itself is an allegory of rape but whatever makes you feel better about yourself ig
Allegory, exactly, which is not the same thing as deep exploration, it doesn't go much further beyond just symbolism.

[cancerblack]



Nightmare Asylum



Can't wait to be drinking my Amazon-brand beer on an Amazon-owned spaceship while being rerouted to my death so that Amazon can make a few extra bucks and fuel their bio-weapons division for years to come!

They'll probably have me peeing in a bottle or something, too.

[cancerblack]

It's okay, you can go for a semi-private cry in the emotional therapy cupboard.

Xenomorphine

Quote from: Voodoo Magic on Jul 02, 2021, 04:46:36 PM
Hold da phone! Okay this one I have to push back my friends. :)

As not just a reader of reviews of Predator 2 but a collector of them during 1990, other than not having the gravitas of Arnold Schwarzenegger, critics labeled Predator 2 as ultra violent, trashy, tasteless, crass, classless, mean spirited, loud, obnoxious and dumb!  But a common complaint in 1990 was definitely not the audience being ahead of the characters - that I can attest to! ;D

Might have been a difference between reviews in the US and UK, at that time? :) I definitely remember a number of radio reviews and several newspaper ones which were referencing it.

QuoteBut alas, with no recurring characters, you're not often going to be dealing with characters that know what they're dealing with - especially when we start delving into period pieces. But fortunately, it doesn't bother me like you fine gentlemen!

They wouldn't have to be known characters. Just characters who turn up with back-stories of Predator involvement, like the 'Hunters' comic.

SiL

Quote from: TomT on Jul 02, 2021, 09:20:45 PM
Quote from: PAS Spinelli on Jul 02, 2021, 08:46:02 PM
Can you tell me what is subtle about "That damn corporation! What about our lifes!" or "Crew expandable"? Where is the undertone in "I don't know which species is worse"?
All that stuff makes sense in the context of those stories, situations and movie's universe, that's it. And the same time it's all background/secondary stuff, those movies weren't deep explorations of anti-capitalism or socialism, c'mon.
And this might not be either, but for whatever reason you've made up your mind to tilt at windmills.

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