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Posted by The Old One
 - Jul 16, 2019, 09:55:23 AM
Now, AVP "First Contact" is an idea I'd enjoy seeing.
Posted by The1PerfectOrganism
 - Jul 16, 2019, 09:49:15 AM
Yeah, I agree. AVP and AVPR remaining non-canon and the AVP conflict being open to complete reinvention is the best option.

Such as seeing the first time a Alien encountered a Predator.
Posted by The Old One
 - Nov 24, 2018, 12:14:50 AM
Quote from: D. Compton Ambrose on Nov 23, 2018, 11:45:16 PM
The A-P series need to be rebooted, not have AVP and AVPR brought back from the grave...

Indeed.
Posted by D. Compton Ambrose
 - Nov 23, 2018, 11:45:16 PM
The A-P series need to be rebooted, not have AVP and AVPR brought back from the grave...
Posted by Frosty Venom
 - Oct 03, 2018, 08:55:04 AM
I see the Weyland Industries timeline as part of the canon but I'm just saying that if something in a film or other piece of media contradicts it then it can be waved aside. I for one don't see any contradictions between this timeline and AVP.
Posted by The Cruentus
 - Oct 03, 2018, 08:29:01 AM
Just because there is a cure for something, doesn't mean that someone still can't die from it. There is a lot of treatment out today that cures things that will kill you yet in some cases people still die from it, usually because they can't get the cure from where they are.

Amanda might have been unaware of the cancer until it was too late, or maybe she wanted to die. We have no idea who she was and how she lived at that age and that is assuming Burke didn't give Ripley false information.
Posted by Frosty Venom
 - Oct 03, 2018, 05:17:40 AM
I'm not meaning to come at you; I'm just trying to spark the debate as I do enjoy the subject  :)
Posted by SM
 - Oct 03, 2018, 04:57:44 AM
QuoteYou cannot possibly claim to know that Fox has deliberately avoided linking them with the purpose of keeping the universes separate.

I possibly can.
Posted by Frosty Venom
 - Oct 03, 2018, 04:55:47 AM
If you really wanted to fit Concrete Jungle into the continuity you could easily say that this Weyland is Peter.

Quote from: SM on Oct 02, 2018, 08:31:33 PM
Quote from: Frosty Venom on Oct 02, 2018, 06:24:36 PM
Quote from: SM on Oct 01, 2018, 08:41:27 PM
Stacks of people have tried the 'Charles is Peter's father' method of marrying the two series.  Fox says otherwise.

The theory clearly works. When has fox said otherwise?

How does it work?  Is Charles Bishop Weyland a professor of comparative mythology?

Fox has deliberately avoided linking Peter Weyland to AvP via the promotional material for Prometheus and the Weyland-Yutani Report - both of which were a prime opportunities to do so.

Charles Bishop Weyland could have easily been a professor of comparative mythology in his earlier years, we know that he graduated from Harvard at 21 and that it was only after his fathers death that he inherited the company. You cannot possibly claim to know that Fox has deliberately avoided linking them with the purpose of keeping the universes separate. It more likely that it has been left vague so it's open to interpretation. I'm fine with you believing that they are separate universes but for people who like them to be under one universe it is possible.

If you do believe the Weyland Industries timeline truly contradicts AVP, what are you going to believe? some promotional work or an actual entry in the franchise? This timeline also suggests Peter created a cure for cancer in 2023 and who do we know dies from cancer? Amanda Ripley in 2178.
Posted by Samhain13
 - Oct 02, 2018, 09:14:21 PM
Quote from: Xenomrph on Oct 02, 2018, 09:11:10 PM
Quote from: Samhain13 on Oct 02, 2018, 05:56:32 PM
How about the Weyland guy at the end of Predator: Concrete Jungle?  ;)

Brother? Cousin?

I genuinely don't remember that, I guess that's an excuse to replay the game and refresh myself on it. :P

If you are interested: http://avp.wikia.com/wiki/Weyland_(person)
Posted by Xenomrph
 - Oct 02, 2018, 09:11:10 PM
Quote from: SM on Oct 02, 2018, 08:31:33 PM
Quote from: Frosty Venom on Oct 02, 2018, 06:24:36 PM
Quote from: SM on Oct 01, 2018, 08:41:27 PM
Stacks of people have tried the 'Charles is Peter's father' method of marrying the two series.  Fox says otherwise.

The theory clearly works. When has fox said otherwise?

How does it work?  Is Charles Bishop Weyland a professor of comparative mythology?

Fox has deliberately avoided linking Peter Weyland to AvP via the promotional material for Prometheus and the Weyland-Yutani Report - both of which were a prime opportunities to do so.
They also deliberately didn't say Peter Weyland's father's name in the WY Report or the Weyland Corporate Timeline, despite those being a prime opportunity to do so and put the issue to rest once and for all. It's almost as if they're being intentionally vague, so that people who want to believe they're related can do so if they choose, and those who don't can believe that they're not.

Quote from: Samhain13 on Oct 02, 2018, 05:56:32 PM
Quote from: Xenomrph on Oct 02, 2018, 05:33:10 PM
Quote from: SM on Oct 01, 2018, 08:41:27 PM
Stacks of people have tried the 'Charles is Peter's father' method of marrying the two series.  Fox says otherwise.

Maybe some day I'll also be able to underwhelm the world with my method of linking Alien and AvP...
[actively derails the thread with a 7-page debate about why the Charles is Peter's father theory makes sense]

Real talk: it does make sense tho.

How about the Weyland guy at the end of Predator: Concrete Jungle?  ;)

Brother? Cousin?

I genuinely don't remember that, I guess that's an excuse to replay the game and refresh myself on it. :P

Quote from: Samhain13 on Oct 02, 2018, 06:32:32 PM
Quote from: Frosty Venom on Oct 02, 2018, 06:24:36 PM
When has fox said otherwise?

Fox doesn't care about any of that canon/continuity stuff, just that we keep giving them money. They give freedom for directors and writers to do their own thing.
Also, this. "Canon" as a concept is not useful for fans, and it's only marginally useful for writers to provide them with a framework and context - and only if they feel they need it. If the license-holders are going to let writers do their own thing, then all that matters is, "is it a good/fun/effective story, well told?"
Also "canon" and "continuity" aren't synonyms.
Posted by SM
 - Oct 02, 2018, 08:31:33 PM
Quote from: Frosty Venom on Oct 02, 2018, 06:24:36 PM
Quote from: SM on Oct 01, 2018, 08:41:27 PM
Stacks of people have tried the 'Charles is Peter's father' method of marrying the two series.  Fox says otherwise.

The theory clearly works. When has fox said otherwise?

How does it work?  Is Charles Bishop Weyland a professor of comparative mythology?

Fox has deliberately avoided linking Peter Weyland to AvP via the promotional material for Prometheus and the Weyland-Yutani Report - both of which were a prime opportunities to do so.
Posted by Samhain13
 - Oct 02, 2018, 06:32:32 PM
Quote from: Frosty Venom on Oct 02, 2018, 06:24:36 PM
When has fox said otherwise?

Fox doesn't care about any of that canon/continuity stuff, just that we keep giving them money. They give freedom for directors and writers to do their own thing.
Posted by Frosty Venom
 - Oct 02, 2018, 06:24:36 PM
Quote from: SM on Oct 01, 2018, 08:41:27 PM
Stacks of people have tried the 'Charles is Peter's father' method of marrying the two series.  Fox says otherwise.

The theory clearly works. When has fox said otherwise?
Posted by Samhain13
 - Oct 02, 2018, 05:56:32 PM
Quote from: Xenomrph on Oct 02, 2018, 05:33:10 PM
Quote from: SM on Oct 01, 2018, 08:41:27 PM
Stacks of people have tried the 'Charles is Peter's father' method of marrying the two series.  Fox says otherwise.

Maybe some day I'll also be able to underwhelm the world with my method of linking Alien and AvP...
[actively derails the thread with a 7-page debate about why the Charles is Peter's father theory makes sense]

Real talk: it does make sense tho.

How about the Weyland guy at the end of Predator: Concrete Jungle?  ;)

Brother? Cousin?
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