AFE Sequel: Project Macondo

Started by BlueMarsalis79, Jul 14, 2024, 09:35:50 AM

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PAS

PAS

#15
Quote from: The Cruentus on Jul 16, 2024, 12:01:45 PMDisney needs to sell the rights to a company that is more competent and actually respects the franchise.
Saying this after Prey, Fireteam Elite, Dark Descent and with Romulus on the way is genuinely f**king insane.

BigChapismyBestFriend

Quote from: PAS on Jul 16, 2024, 03:29:35 PM
Quote from: The Cruentus on Jul 16, 2024, 12:01:45 PMDisney needs to sell the rights to a company that is more competent and actually respects the franchise.
Saying this after Prey, Fireteam Elite, Dark Descent and with Romulus on the way is genuinely f**king insane.
Weren't those titles being produced before Disney bought fox?

PAS

PAS

#17
Quote from: BigChapismyBestFriend on Jul 16, 2024, 03:33:53 PM
Quote from: PAS on Jul 16, 2024, 03:29:35 PM
Quote from: The Cruentus on Jul 16, 2024, 12:01:45 PMDisney needs to sell the rights to a company that is more competent and actually respects the franchise.
Saying this after Prey, Fireteam Elite, Dark Descent and with Romulus on the way is genuinely f**king insane.
Weren't those titles being produced before Disney bought fox?
Disney bought Fox over 5 years ago. Even if one of those were already in production, if Disney "didn't actually respect" the franchise they would have canned all of them.


We need to stop being toxic like the Star Wars community and stop pretending good things haven't come out of this, disregarding all the love and care in projects that are only seeing the light of day thanks to Disney is just so petty

BigChapismyBestFriend

Quote from: PAS on Jul 16, 2024, 03:35:50 PM
Quote from: BigChapismyBestFriend on Jul 16, 2024, 03:33:53 PM
Quote from: PAS on Jul 16, 2024, 03:29:35 PM
Quote from: The Cruentus on Jul 16, 2024, 12:01:45 PMDisney needs to sell the rights to a company that is more competent and actually respects the franchise.
Saying this after Prey, Fireteam Elite, Dark Descent and with Romulus on the way is genuinely f**king insane.
Weren't those titles being produced before Disney bought fox?
Disney bought Fox over 5 years ago. Even if one of those were already in production, if Disney "didn't actually respect" the franchise they would have canned all of them.

I see your point, but Disney is proven to put out stinkers before with the Example of Star Wars. But they can cook too, Mandalorian and Andor did a good job Proving that disney can do it. I'm not a doomer like every comment within YouTube who think that everything that Disney own is done for but I am cautious. Honestly those titles did gave me hope for this franchise.
Damn, I honestly forgot that that was more than five years ago.

PAS

PAS

#19
Quote from: BigChapismyBestFriend on Jul 16, 2024, 03:48:08 PM
Quote from: PAS on Jul 16, 2024, 03:35:50 PM
Quote from: BigChapismyBestFriend on Jul 16, 2024, 03:33:53 PM
Quote from: PAS on Jul 16, 2024, 03:29:35 PM
Quote from: The Cruentus on Jul 16, 2024, 12:01:45 PMDisney needs to sell the rights to a company that is more competent and actually respects the franchise.
Saying this after Prey, Fireteam Elite, Dark Descent and with Romulus on the way is genuinely f**king insane.
Weren't those titles being produced before Disney bought fox?
Disney bought Fox over 5 years ago. Even if one of those were already in production, if Disney "didn't actually respect" the franchise they would have canned all of them.

I see your point, but Disney is proven to put out stinkers before with the Example of Star Wars. But they can cook too, Mandalorian and Andor did a good job Proving that disney can do it. I'm not a doomer like every comment within YouTube who think that everything that Disney own is done for but I am cautious. Honestly those titles did gave me hope for this franchise.
Damn, I honestly forgot that that was more than five years ago.
Star Wars hate is overblown and artificial. Most people that hate it have their opinions decided for them by grifters.
Mando S1, Rebels, CW S7, Bad Batch, Acolyte, Andor, Rogue One, BF2 2019, both Fallen Order games, so much good stuff made by Disney for Star Wars, all ignored or purposely misrepresented by weirdos online that hate "woke dei disney".

BigChapismyBestFriend

Quote from: PAS on Jul 16, 2024, 03:53:27 PM
Quote from: BigChapismyBestFriend on Jul 16, 2024, 03:48:08 PM
Quote from: PAS on Jul 16, 2024, 03:35:50 PM
Quote from: BigChapismyBestFriend on Jul 16, 2024, 03:33:53 PM
Quote from: PAS on Jul 16, 2024, 03:29:35 PM
Quote from: The Cruentus on Jul 16, 2024, 12:01:45 PMDisney needs to sell the rights to a company that is more competent and actually respects the franchise.
Saying this after Prey, Fireteam Elite, Dark Descent and with Romulus on the way is genuinely f**king insane.
Weren't those titles being produced before Disney bought fox?
Disney bought Fox over 5 years ago. Even if one of those were already in production, if Disney "didn't actually respect" the franchise they would have canned all of them.

I see your point, but Disney is proven to put out stinkers before with the Example of Star Wars. But they can cook too, Mandalorian and Andor did a good job Proving that disney can do it. I'm not a doomer like every comment within YouTube who think that everything that Disney own is done for but I am cautious. Honestly those titles did gave me hope for this franchise.
Damn, I honestly forgot that that was more than five years ago.
Star Wars hate is overblown and artificial. Most people that hate it have their opinions decided for them by grifters.
Mando S1, Rebels, CW S7, Bad Batch, Acolyte, Andor, Rogue One, BF2 2019, both Fallen Order games, so much good stuff made by Disney for Star Wars, all ignored or purposely misrepresented by weirdos online that hate "woke dei disney".
Oh god I agree, there was This one time that a Grifter had self reflection and questioned their own and others grifters actions. Like why aren't they talking about the things they like rather to talking about the thing that fuels fire and anger. I know the sequel weren't the best but I still see this kind of hate sort of everywhere years after ROS

Kimarhi

Kimarhi

#21
I do think the Disney SW content is super hit or miss.  But my main gripe isn't anything to do with wokeness, its having something like Rogue one, an attempt at more serious storytelling for adults in the universe, and then falling too far back on their Disney roots and making the stories TOO childlike in almost all of their other media.

Their baseline needs to be just one step above in serious imo.  Right now lots of their tv shows seem to be hurt because they have to write their stories continually around scenes for children that they haven't found the natural balance like the OG trilogy did.  But this was also my complaint when Lucas did the prequels.  He wasn't as good in those as he was (probably because he didn't write the screenplays in two of the OG movies) in the original films about that either. 



The Cruentus

The Cruentus

#22
Quote from: PAS on Jul 16, 2024, 03:29:35 PM
Quote from: The Cruentus on Jul 16, 2024, 12:01:45 PMDisney needs to sell the rights to a company that is more competent and actually respects the franchise.
Saying this after Prey, Fireteam Elite, Dark Descent and with Romulus on the way is genuinely f**king insane.

Not really, a few good products doesn't counter the bad, and I am not just talking about the Alien franchise. An argument can be made about the quality of different franchises since Disney took them over.

Prey was not bad for sure but it definitely had its eye rolling moments. Fireteam elite is fun but Isolation it was not. FTE is clearly meant to be purely mindless fun, very arcade-like since there is a lot of logic holes in it for it to ever be taken seriously. Romulus is something I am on fence about since there is a few things there that is giving me Covenant vibes.
These example may have just been lucky to have been able to film/develop the products without executive meddling maybe.

Normally it does depend on the devs/film crews but if they bow down to the studio (either willingly or being forced to by contract) then whatever bizarre ideas the company has will find its way into the product.

Fox was guilty of this too.

BigChapismyBestFriend

Those products you mention did get alot of praise, yes there were people dislike but most of the reception has been positive. I know that Alien Isolation was the top alien, I'm not denying that but it was probably a lighting in a bottle. Disney might had it own lighting in a bottle with Dark Decent. I wasn't optimistic about Dark Decent when it was first announced, now I think it could be the second best alien game with A:I on top. Disney can cook, we just needed to wait they have just started with the property. This is probably a stinker by the look of it but PAS told me that it just left the concept stage. A lot of shit can change.

PAS

PAS

#24
Quote from: The Cruentus on Jul 16, 2024, 06:25:57 PM
Quote from: PAS on Jul 16, 2024, 03:29:35 PM
Quote from: The Cruentus on Jul 16, 2024, 12:01:45 PMDisney needs to sell the rights to a company that is more competent and actually respects the franchise.
Saying this after Prey, Fireteam Elite, Dark Descent and with Romulus on the way is genuinely f**king insane.
Not really, a few good products doesn't counter the bad, and I am not just talking about the Alien franchise. An argument can be made about the quality of different franchises since Disney took them over.
These are literally ALL the products that aren't toys or literature made under Disney, not "just a few". We haven't had a single bad game or movie under Disney so far and even if that changes in one month the track record will still be mostly positive. And this is a literal presentation done by the DEVS, not Disney, THE DEVS. They are presenting it to Disney so Disney can review and demand changes, as it happens in licensed games constantly. You are blaming Disney for something the devs themselves came up with in a presentation done before the game has even begun it's dev cycle.

The Replacement

Quote from: The Cruentus on Jul 16, 2024, 12:01:45 PMIt just looks rubbish to be honest. I mean seriously zombie aliens?

Disney needs to sell the rights to a company that is more competent and actually respects the franchise.

It all sounds way over the top and just awful. Plus it the gameplay is regressed, i.e you can't even customize your character or loadout.

For me, it just doesn't feel like Aliens. That feeling is super important. Dark Descent really captured it. FTE, not so much.

CANNON

CANNON

#26
Yeah it doesn't sound great from this early leaked info. Now I'm not a developer but it reads more like a rough starting point like a game pitch to get a green light rather than an executed and developed contract.
I enjoyed Aliens Fireteam and I have faith they will allow things like customization to come back. Maybe as the game development begins to progress and starts to reveal new opportunities for adjustments.
I could be wrong but I hope that I am right. Things like Zombie Aliens? I don't understand that, especially because its a far cry from Fireteam which for the most part tried to keep to the lore. Again seems like it was a pitching scheme to get the greenlight, or a brain storm or maybe they just lost their way.

The Cruentus

The Cruentus

#27
Quote from: PAS on Jul 16, 2024, 06:53:14 PMThese are literally ALL the products that aren't toys or literature made under Disney, not "just a few". We haven't had a single bad game or movie under Disney so far and even if that changes in one month the track record will still be mostly positive. And this is a literal presentation done by the DEVS, not Disney, THE DEVS. They are presenting it to Disney so Disney can review and demand changes, as it happens in licensed games constantly. You are blaming Disney for something the devs themselves came up with in a presentation done before the game has even begun it's dev cycle.


There has been plenty of bad disney products going on for the last few years or so now, kind of hard to miss.

I'm not blaming disney as true enough this could be down to the devs, but given disney's recent M.O, it would not be surprising for them to add their own crap to a product since they do seem to meddle a lot these.  Fox did it and the franchise suffered for it.

If the crap like zombie aliens was the devs ideas, they might want to remember what franchise they are working on. sci-fi, not supernatural. Either way, regardless of the sources of these bad ideas, its definitely looking like something that I will avoid.

Hopefully they will go back to the drawing board and try to keep it a bit more grounded. While FTE wasn't exactly something to take too seriously, it at least didn't go into zombie territory.

PAS

PAS

#28
Quote from: The Cruentus on Jul 17, 2024, 06:52:54 PM
Quote from: PAS on Jul 16, 2024, 06:53:14 PMThese are literally ALL the products that aren't toys or literature made under Disney, not "just a few". We haven't had a single bad game or movie under Disney so far and even if that changes in one month the track record will still be mostly positive. And this is a literal presentation done by the DEVS, not Disney, THE DEVS. They are presenting it to Disney so Disney can review and demand changes, as it happens in licensed games constantly. You are blaming Disney for something the devs themselves came up with in a presentation done before the game has even begun it's dev cycle.


There has been plenty of bad disney products going on for the last few years or so now, kind of hard to miss.

I'm not blaming disney as true enough this could be down to the devs, but given disney's recent M.O, it would not be surprising for them to add their own crap to a product since they do seem to meddle a lot these.  Fox did it and the franchise suffered for it.

If the crap like zombie aliens was the devs ideas, they might want to remember what franchise they are working on. sci-fi, not supernatural. Either way, regardless of the sources of these bad ideas, its definitely looking like something that I will avoid.

Hopefully they will go back to the drawing board and try to keep it a bit more grounded. While FTE wasn't exactly something to take too seriously, it at least didn't go into zombie territory.
Disney is a gigantic company and their other departments are moot to Alien and Predator.
This is not a "could", this IS from the Devs. It's their game pitch presentation.

The Cruentus

The Cruentus

#29
And it sucks.

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