Gooooood!
Gooooood!
Love it, looks like a great time at the theater.
Loving a lot of those visuals. Im definitly stoked to see this flick now.
Really good trailer.
Does it give a lot away? I'm not sure I want to watch :P
I'm still saying that locations in the film are excellent.
Where skull splitter?
ITS ONLINE https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bOwXNZmdPc0
Great trailer loved it. Now I'm gonna do my best to avoid any more spoilers. Can't wait too see this opening night!
Wow!! If that doesn't sway the haters than i don't know what will
Quote from: Hollywood on Jun 26, 2018, 01:06:26 PM
Does it give a lot away? I'm not sure I want to watch :P
It doesn't give away any major character deaths, but you can see a few locations in more details, and there's more gore stuff here and there.
You also see the upgrade a little bit more, but not that much, you do see the captured pred a lot though.
I F**KING LOVED IT !!!
Quote from: BigDaddyJohn on Jun 26, 2018, 01:13:40 PM
Quote from: Hollywood on Jun 26, 2018, 01:06:26 PM
Does it give a lot away? I'm not sure I want to watch :P
It doesn't give away any major character deaths, but you can see a few locations in more details, and there's more gore stuff here and there
Thanks bud!
Great trailer and they still keep secret the other Predators and Pred-Dogs
Quote from: Hollywood on Jun 26, 2018, 01:15:34 PM
Quote from: BigDaddyJohn on Jun 26, 2018, 01:13:40 PM
Quote from: Hollywood on Jun 26, 2018, 01:06:26 PM
Does it give a lot away? I'm not sure I want to watch :P
It doesn't give away any major character deaths, but you can see a few locations in more details, and there's more gore stuff here and there
Thanks bud!
De nada ! Will you watch it ?
Trailer was mostly good but that joke on the bus just seemed out of place and not delivered very well...
Much better than the first one, but confirms the unmasked face is gonna be just as dissapointing as the others.
Interesting that they've almost completely removed the son from the advertising.
Awesome
It gives the last line of the movie away.
Lol
Loved the joke on the bus and thomas janes reaction. Im really digging the band of loonies. I think theyre going to have great chemestry.
I knew Shane Black wouldn't let us down.
This was light years better than the previous trailer.
Quote from: SiL on Jun 26, 2018, 01:21:02 PM
Much better than the first one, but confirms the unmasked face is gonna be just as dissapointing as the others.
Interesting that they've almost completely removed the son from the advertising.
Wut?
It may not be perfect but it looks lightyears better than anything in the AvP's or Predators. The face actually looks cool again even if there are a few issues.
Quote from: SiL on Jun 26, 2018, 01:21:02 PM
Much better than the first one, but confirms the unmasked face is gonna be just as dissapointing as the others.
Interesting that they've almost completely removed the son from the advertising.
Really ? You don't think he looks good when he opens up his arms and roar at 1:19 ? I think he looks f**king good !
I like the trailer but I couldn't help but laugh at the obviously fake dummy falling down the steps. :D
Quote from: BigDaddyJohn on Jun 26, 2018, 01:18:09 PM
De nada ! Will you watch it ?
Just did! I think it looks AWESOME!! ;D
https://twitter.com/TheSuperNews4U/status/1011598201437282304
here it is
That's what you call a trailer! Awesome!! Loved how it interchanged scenes of both the Loonies and Predator breaking out - awesome
Good trailer! I didn't read the script, but by the short description of the script I thought not so much of the captured pred, but damn this trailers made him look bad ass! Really don't want him to die now)))) I like his swag while he is walking))))
Alright this is more like it. Not perfect, but a lot better.
I definitely feel better about this movie now! Glad the characters (the Loonies) each look like they have their own colorful personality! That was the problem with the AVP films, you just did not care about the characters. Predators did it better, but there just wasn't enough interesting dialogue to make me feel invested in them, Walton Goggins being the exception really. But these characters look great! The dialogue is definitely Shane Black dialogue! Glad Boyd Holbrook isn't going for a tough guy persona with a Batman voice like Adrian Brody either. He's just being himself to an extent and it gives so much more life to his character
Quote from: 426Buddy on Jun 26, 2018, 01:25:15 PM
Quote from: SiL on Jun 26, 2018, 01:21:02 PM
Much better than the first one, but confirms the unmasked face is gonna be just as dissapointing as the others.
Interesting that they've almost completely removed the son from the advertising.
Wut?
It may not be perfect but it looks lightyears better than anything in the AvP's or Predators. The face actually looks cool again even if there are a few issues.
I agree on that
Quote from: Hollywood on Jun 26, 2018, 01:31:48 PM
Quote from: BigDaddyJohn on Jun 26, 2018, 01:18:09 PM
De nada ! Will you watch it ?
Just did! I think it looks AWESOME!! ;D
Hell yeah ! Love the upgrade design ! Those red stripes on his body reminds me of some of those cherokee warriors ! Or Darth Maul lol.
Looks like the upgrade is 1.5 times the normal pred? So it scales to a predator what a predator scales to a human?
Still keeping to my secret hope that the upgrade is actually a female pred... out for a night of fun...
Well, that looked sick. And finally likable characters. Let's go !!! The lions, tigers, and bears oh my
Yeah. No kid.
Sweet!
I like the trailer a lot, but is very similar to the first one, not revealling much...
Spoiler
still not the 2 friendly predators or the hounds...
Anyway, very excited about the movie, the Upgrade Predator looks awesome! :o
I love how they Incorporated Billy's laugh from the original movie at the end of this trailer, oh this trailer definitely makes it look like a big hit and it's going to be pretty badass!
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Oh. My. Cod.
Hot and bothered.
I'm quite sure the "friendly" predators just get an armor upgrade down the line just to kick ultimates ass in the finale.
The masks are all the same anyway.
Also: plasma caster on a human character. By what power source?
Liked the trailer a lot. ADI's predator face isn't bad this time around. Looks really good when he roars, though there's something wrong with the eyebrows or with the shape of the eye sockets. To be honest, I like the Upgrades face better.
Still, can't wait for the movie.
So now Predators not only upgrade themselves but they conquered space? What?
Quote from: Jacku on Jun 26, 2018, 02:30:05 PM
So now Predators not only upgrade themselves but they conquered space? What?
We lived under predator supremacy for years and you know it.
Long gone are the hunting trips on whatever planet they find life on.
I think he means conquered space as in they developed the ability to travel the cosmos using advanced technology. Not that they are out there conquering whole planets and civilizations. But i could be wrong, if so maybe they are keeping AvP and their ancient aliens angle on the predators intact.
The captured Predator looks badass, acting looks pretty spot on aswell (Pretty much sold on Boyd Holdbrook now he seems fit for this role) , and seeing Preds in a lab environment is something i've wanted for a long time.
Far better trailer than than the first two efforts, man i really hope Black has done it, i was about 30% convinced until seeing this and now im 50/50, been led down the path far too long by Fox so not getting my hopes up tooo much.
Heres hoping we get a solid movie and finally the one fans deserve.
The roar is back... Shane Black read my post.
Looks very promising as a popcorn flick. The face looks good, but not perfect, it's better. One really dodgy shot when. He opens the lab doors, but I dig it.
Looks fun! What a difference a better edited trailer can make. Still not too hyped on the Chadator's design but it could be worse.
They'll have to get Big Chad and Big Chap together sometime.
Quote from: skull-splitter on Jun 26, 2018, 02:35:44 PM
Quote from: Jacku on Jun 26, 2018, 02:30:05 PM
So now Predators not only upgrade themselves but they conquered space? What?
We lived under predator supremacy for years and you know it.
Long gone are the hunting trips on whatever planet they find life on.
That bugs me cause the first thought I had when I realised Predators are basically alien hunters was how is it grounds them as a movie monster. Don't like the alien invasion trope of every alien in a species acting in unison. Preds as hunters felt like you were just seeing a tiny portion of their society. Seems Shane Black cares for the films cannon but not the loads of comics and extended media the biggest Predator fans have enjoyed all this time.
Quote from: 426Buddy on Jun 26, 2018, 02:48:52 PM
They'll have to get Big Chad and Big Chap together sometime.
Just imagine the offspring from a Chadator impregnated by a facehugger... The absolute units they would be!
I'm not sold on it but who am I kidding of course I'm going to go see it. I'll probably buy the NECA figures they release with it too. I've enjoyed all the Predator movies and as far as the AVP ones go, the best parts of those films featured the Predator so this would have to turn out to be super shit to not meet my expectations.
Quote from: Jacku on Jun 26, 2018, 02:50:12 PM
Quote from: skull-splitter on Jun 26, 2018, 02:35:44 PM
Quote from: Jacku on Jun 26, 2018, 02:30:05 PM
So now Predators not only upgrade themselves but they conquered space? What?
We lived under predator supremacy for years and you know it.
Long gone are the hunting trips on whatever planet they find life on.
That bugs me cause the first thought I had when I realised Predators are basically alien hunters was how is it grounds them as a movie monster. Don't like the alien invasion trope of every alien in a species acting in unison. Preds as hunters felt like you were just seeing a tiny portion of their society. Seems Shane Black cares for the films cannon but not the loads of comics and extended media the biggest Predator fans have enjoyed all this time.
Quote from: 426Buddy on Jun 26, 2018, 02:42:39 PM
I think he means conquered space as in they developed the ability to travel the cosmos using advanced technology. Not that they are out there conquering whole planets and civilizations. But i could be wrong, if so maybe they are keeping AvP and their ancient aliens angle on the predators intact.
Gotta be sincere. I think this looks like a garbage movie :/
Nothing of interest. Just generic movie #2384.
I would have hoped a Predator revival would be to do something grandiose with the franchise.
I think it will be released and people will forget about it in two days.
Also, I've never liked the idea of "super predators" that make the regular ones look like wimps.
Banned
Whooo it's AMAZING Trailer.
Lots Spoiler, but looks is VERY good, and the tone too !
Exciting.
:o 8) 8)
The Poster is REALLY GOOD 8)
The Trailer is good, but not seen in full (too much SPOILER)!
To be honest this looks like straight up wet dog sh1t but it was cool to hear the exact same predator roar six times within 3 minutes.That dialogue was b-movie bad (the actual bad kind). Still hiding the kid in the hopes that people have forgotten about him, despite how central he his to the overall plot. The chad predator is basically the giant werewolf from underworld 4. I want to be surprised and have the movie turn out to be good but Christ, it's like they want me to skip this film.
On the plus side, at least they're still referring to them as "Predator's" and not Yautja
I had forgotten the poster is really BADASS !
But heah, love the Trailer, but many Spoiler.
:)
Trailer looks so good! Getting a lot of likes on YouTube compared to dislikes. I'm curious what they're going to show at comic con now?
Quote from: McTierman on Jun 26, 2018, 03:05:45 PM
I had forgotten the poster is really BADASS !
But heah, love the Trailer, but many Spoiler.
:)
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DgnicVgWAAAarjt.jpg:large (https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DgnicVgWAAAarjt.jpg:large)
Indeed. Usually all movie posters have dark bluish colors and sparks flying all over. How refreshing to see bright colors! haha
Quote from: Magegg on Jun 26, 2018, 02:54:54 PM
Gotta be sincere. I think this looks like a garbage movie :/
Nothing of interest. Just generic movie #2384.
I would have hoped a Predator revival would be to do something grandiose with the franchise.
I think it will be released and people will forget about it in two days.
Also, I've never liked the idea of "super predators" that make the regular ones look like wimps.
(https://media2.giphy.com/media/8PGobI34qUcYE/giphy.gif)
I liked it. The stakes and tension in this trailer felt a lot higher than the first.
That poster tho...
I like all the characters, with strong personality, it refers me to the first movie (the best) !
Arny : Me too ^^
Quote from: Jacku on Jun 26, 2018, 02:50:12 PM
Quote from: skull-splitter on Jun 26, 2018, 02:35:44 PM
Quote from: Jacku on Jun 26, 2018, 02:30:05 PM
So now Predators not only upgrade themselves but they conquered space? What?
We lived under predator supremacy for years and you know it.
Long gone are the hunting trips on whatever planet they find life on.
That bugs me cause the first thought I had when I realised Predators are basically alien hunters was how is it grounds them as a movie monster. Don't like the alien invasion trope of every alien in a species acting in unison. Preds as hunters felt like you were just seeing a tiny portion of their society. Seems Shane Black cares for the films cannon but not the loads of comics and extended media the biggest Predator fans have enjoyed all this time.
And he is so f**king right to do so ;)
So this is a prequel to Predators?
It explains how we got the super predators?
I really enjoyed this trailer! Got me hyped. I loved seeing Captive restrained, then breaking out and wreaking havoc. I'm still "take 'em or leave 'em" on the human characters, to be honest, and some of the dialogue, and that vagina joke... and I have other reservations, but for now I'm just enjoying a cool trailer and some glimpses of great moments.
Quote from: Magegg on Jun 26, 2018, 02:54:54 PM
Gotta be sincere. I think this looks like a garbage movie :/
Nothing of interest. Just generic movie #2384.
I would have hoped a Predator revival would be to do something grandiose with the franchise.
I think it will be released and people will forget about it in two days.
Also, I've never liked the idea of "super predators" that make the regular ones look like wimps.
Lemme guessss... Another fan of the comics who thinks it'll be cool to adapt it on film ? :laugh:
Quote from: HashTag_TheSwag on Jun 26, 2018, 03:03:28 PM
To be honest this looks like straight up wet dog sh1t but it was cool to hear the exact same predator roar six times within 3 minutes.That dialogue was b-movie bad (the actual bad kind). Still hiding the kid in the hopes that people have forgotten about him, despite how central he his to the overall plot. The chad predator is basically the giant werewolf from underworld 4. I want to be surprised and have the movie turn out to be good but Christ, it's like they want me to skip this film.
On the plus side, at least they're still referring to them as "Predator's" and not Yautja
Yeah kid ! I love your user name ! :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:
Quote from: DaddyYautja on Jun 26, 2018, 03:31:32 PM
So this is a prequel to Predators?
It explains how we got the super predators?
No ... Predators is literally an elseworlds tale.
An unimaginative regurgitation of the original under the guise of "homage" full of poor casting choices, poor character designs, dull unlikable characters and try too hards.
It's a shame however it got to the idea of super predators versus a regular predator before this Shane Black film.
Great trailer. That's exactly what they needed to put out. There's a build-up and they deliver. The carnage the Predators will unleash looks great. Love the bit of stuff we got from the Loonies and I'm warming up to Sterling K Brown's character more and more. Seems to be different to what he usually plays. I'm excited.
So glad it's Rated R as well. We knew that was the intended case but I sure am glad to see some blood in a trailer.
Fantastic - so much of an improvement on what we've been given thus far. That poster also :o Totally different, something about it makes me smile and anticipate the movie even more. The bright colors maybe? The imagery? I like that they kept the "friendly" Predators under wraps. Would have liked to see the Pred dogs though (so I can start preparing myself...)
Quote from: MudButt on Jun 26, 2018, 03:49:08 PM
Great trailer. That's exactly what they needed to put out. There's a build-up and they deliver. The carnage the Predators will unleash looks great. Love the bit of stuff we got from the Loonies and I'm warming up to Sterling K Brown's character more and more. Seems to be different to what he usually plays. I'm excited.
So glad it's Rated R as well. We knew that was the intended case but I sure am glad to see some blood in a trailer.
I of course have never had any doubts of it being a rated R film, got to love Sterling K Brown ever since watching him in This Is Us he's an amazing actor, Boyd Holbrook looks like he's going to be really fun main character, the joke in the bus reminded me of of Hawkins talking to Billy, the armor on the captured Predator looks better on him than the statue that we just saw a few weeks ago. Definitely excited to watch a sequel to my all-time favorite movies
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poster is f**king awesome
I assume this is what NECA is announcing http://necaonline.com/2018/06/predator-2018-7-scale-action-figure-ultimate-predator/
Loving the new trailer.
Good trailer, far better than the 1st trailer.
Question, are the 2 other Predators still in the movie ? I'm just surprised they haven't shown them, with how trailers love to spoil the whole movie these days.
Not complaining though, as it will be a nice surprise for the people who think they know the movie, going off the trailer footage.
Yeah, I'm seeing this in IMAX.
It was a good trailer. Gives away a bit too much, so from now on I'll basically watch nothing about this one.
The classic face seem a bit off, lower mandibles are too long and the face itself is not intimidating enough because of the high eyebrows, but hey, it's not bad.
What bothers me is the roar. It is played too many times, also I doubt upgrade will have the same sound as classic. So...it's just advertising, like in Predators trailer. I think it won't be in the movie :)
Quote from: Doomofman on Jun 26, 2018, 01:18:35 PMTrailer was mostly good but that joke on the bus just seemed out of place and not delivered very well...
The impression I got was that Keegan Michael-Key was making the joke on purpose so that Thomas Jane could pick a fight with him, thus drawing in the guards and allowing them to take them out and escape the bus. In that context, it kinda makes sense.
Quote from: Yautja_Warrior on Jun 26, 2018, 04:18:52 PM
Good trailer, far better than the 1st trailer.
Question, are the 2 other Predators still in the movie ? I'm just surprised they haven't shown them, with how trailers love to spoil the whole movie these days.
Not complaining though, as it will be a nice surprise for the people who think they know the movie, going off the trailer footage.
well i am wondering the same regarding the 2 other preds
Wow, that NECA figure looks great, I think i'll have to order that one. It also makes me wonder if there's a huge Upgrade somewhere down the line.
Now if only I could find an ultimate JH and CH for less than a small fortune.
Quote from: HuDaFuK on Jun 26, 2018, 04:44:11 PM
Quote from: Doomofman on Jun 26, 2018, 01:18:35 PMTrailer was mostly good but that joke on the bus just seemed out of place and not delivered very well...
The impression I got was that Keegan Michael-Key was making the joke on purpose so that Thomas Jane could pick a fight with him, thus drawing in the guards and allowing them to take them out and escape the bus. In that context, it kinda makes sense.
My thoughts too 😆
Quote from: Yautja_Warrior on Jun 26, 2018, 04:18:52 PM
Question, are the 2 other Predators still in the movie ? I'm just surprised they haven't shown them, with how trailers love to spoil the whole movie these days.
Yes, they are.
You can see one of them in the trailer: on the top of the APC shooting at the exploded jeep.
Awesome trailer! Definitely like the tone of this one, plus more and more is starting to look better I think.
Trying to not spoil too much though, just gotta make it to September ...
Quote from: BigDaddyJohn on Jun 26, 2018, 03:35:10 PMLemme guessss... Another fan of the comics who thinks it'll be cool to adapt it on film ? :laugh:
Never read any Predator comics or novels.
Quote from: TheLoneRanger on Jun 26, 2018, 03:39:11 PM
Quote from: DaddyYautja on Jun 26, 2018, 03:31:32 PM
So this is a prequel to Predators?
It explains how we got the super predators?
No ... Predators is literally an elseworlds tale.
An unimaginative regurgitation of the original under the guise of "homage" full of poor casting choices, poor character designs, dull unlikable characters and try too hards.
It's a shame however it got to the idea of super predators versus a regular predator before this Shane Black film.
I don't like Preds either but we gotta go with what they give us. And this could explain the super preds.
That is a BIG improvement. I didn't hate the other trailers but they were too generic and just made the film look boring. This one had some spirit about it, and it was nice to see some new things like a Predator actually being captured by humans, before it breaks free. I want this film to deliver on its biggest promise, make all of the action scenes look like a massacre ala Predator 2. And I love the poster, its like something you'd see on the cover of a Predator comic. :)
I'm looking forward to it, although aside from a few TV spots they should stop with this trailer. We all now know the villain from Logan will survive this, best not to spoil anything else or they'll kill the suspense.
Well... I'm pretty much alone here but I uh...
...I don't like it. the trailer is really awfully edited. Stuttery, jerky, uneven pacing, and it doesn't really build to anything in the end, Just like the first one. That TV spot is still superior.
Trailer is great, love the idea of an anti-hero pred
But it's another super predator :-[
I just got an idea, it would be sooo cool if the friendly preds will damage their helmets, and instead put on the Jungle Hunter helmet, and City Hunter helmet, it would be soooo epic to see this helmets again and fighting the Super Predator, of course I am 90 % sure it wouldn't happen, but just a fan dream to see these helmets in action as a duet cooperating ;D
Quote from: KikReask on Jun 26, 2018, 05:40:05 PM
I want this film to deliver on its biggest promise, make all of the action scenes look like a massacre ala Predator 2. And I love the poster, its like something you'd see on the cover of a Predator comic. :)
Totally agree on that! ;)
I did cringe a little when I heard the joke on the bus but I guess it's in the same vein as the pussy echo in the first one.
Not a bad trailer. I'm liking the design of the Upgrade Predators a lot more than the Berserkers.
There's good stuff in the trailer, I just think the trailer itself is ultimately forgettable.
Quote from: Magegg on Jun 26, 2018, 05:25:45 PM
Quote from: BigDaddyJohn on Jun 26, 2018, 03:35:10 PMLemme guessss... Another fan of the comics who thinks it'll be cool to adapt it on film ? :laugh:
Never read any Predator comics or novels.
You're missing out on quite a few entertaining stories and most of them comply really well with P1/P2. The comics that is. Just entertaining, standalone stories about Predator encounters.
Quote from: Xerxész on Jun 26, 2018, 05:09:05 PM
Quote from: Yautja_Warrior on Jun 26, 2018, 04:18:52 PM
Question, are the 2 other Predators still in the movie ? I'm just surprised they haven't shown them, with how trailers love to spoil the whole movie these days.
Yes, they are.
You can see one of them in the trailer: on the top of the APC shooting at the exploded jeep.
Yeah although nobody would know from that tiny 1 second clip. :)
Just surprised they haven't spoiled it like so many trailers do these days, although there's still time in another trailer before it comes out.
I kinda hope they don't show them though, so it's a surprise for a lot of people.
Awesome trailer!!
Didn't have any issues with the delivery of the joke in the bus. Although I'm pretty sure in the movie they will replace "V" with "P".
Overall the Pred face looks 10x better but damn why is it so difficult to have the mandibles close properly... It is like Winston took some secret ingredient with him.
Poster is great as well.
Quote from: ace3g on Jun 26, 2018, 07:04:55 PM
Awesome trailer!!
Didn't have any issues with the delivery of the joke in the bus. Although I'm pretty sure in the movie they will replace "V" with "P".
Overall the Pred face looks 10x better but damn why is it so difficult to have the mandibles clothes properly... It is like Winston took some secret ingredient with him.
Poster is great as well.
Seriously, even 28 years later, his work on Predator 2 is so vastly superior to the efforts from 2004, 2007, 2010, and now even 2018 LOL. The face on his creatures, and their movements just looks so much more natural, believable, and ultimately menacing. These other ones very clearly look like animatronics.
I kinda love how the poster looks like a old school Predator comic book cover ;D
TheLoneRanger I was debating a while ago with somebody, but we came to conclusion that even Winston didn't pull of the Predator face in second movie. I love the second movie with all my heart, and would never want to change anything(except seeing the original NC 17 version). But animatronics in the second movie were rougher and less natural in compare to the first movie. I would say this face in 2018 is closest or same to the second movie regarding the animatronics and mandibles. So now we have only the first movie having "Perfect" face animatronics(even so I getting tired from prase for the Jungle Hunter). But Jungle Hunters animatronics felt the most natural. So even Stan Winston with his team couldn't pull of the same feel in the second movie as he did in the first.
Quote from: TheLoneRanger on Jun 26, 2018, 07:08:17 PM
Quote from: ace3g on Jun 26, 2018, 07:04:55 PM
Awesome trailer!!
Didn't have any issues with the delivery of the joke in the bus. Although I'm pretty sure in the movie they will replace "V" with "P".
Overall the Pred face looks 10x better but damn why is it so difficult to have the mandibles clothes properly... It is like Winston took some secret ingredient with him.
Poster is great as well.
Seriously, even 28 years later, his work on Predator 2 is so vastly superior to the efforts from 2004, 2007, 2010, and now even 2018 LOL. The face on his creatures, and their movements just looks so much more natural, believable, and ultimately menacing. These other ones very clearly look like animatronics.
Honestly, city hunter's face close-ups in P2 looked as f**k like animatronics without a doubt, i think it was weaker than the first one in this department.
Quote from: Xerxész on Jun 26, 2018, 05:09:05 PM
Quote from: Yautja_Warrior on Jun 26, 2018, 04:18:52 PM
Question, are the 2 other Predators still in the movie ? I'm just surprised they haven't shown them, with how trailers love to spoil the whole movie these days.
Yes, they are.
You can see one of them in the trailer: on the top of the APC shooting at the exploded jeep.
I'm seeing some frustration about the trailer showing too much, but there's not a single hint of these two preds (aside from that shot, but you have to be looking for it.) If you think about it from the perspective of the average movie goer, the revelation of two predators working with the government will be a big surprise!
Quote from: yautjapet on Jun 26, 2018, 07:44:43 PM
Quote from: Xerxész on Jun 26, 2018, 05:09:05 PM
Quote from: Yautja_Warrior on Jun 26, 2018, 04:18:52 PM
Question, are the 2 other Predators still in the movie ? I'm just surprised they haven't shown them, with how trailers love to spoil the whole movie these days.
Yes, they are.
You can see one of them in the trailer: on the top of the APC shooting at the exploded jeep.
I'm seeing some frustration about the trailer showing too much, but there's not a single hint of these two preds (aside from that shot, but you have to be looking for it.) If you think about it from the perspective of the average movie goer, the revelation of two predators working with the government will be a big surprise!
They already gave away their biggest twist though.
Quote from: skull-splitter on Jun 26, 2018, 06:01:46 PM
Quote from: Magegg on Jun 26, 2018, 05:25:45 PM
Quote from: BigDaddyJohn on Jun 26, 2018, 03:35:10 PMLemme guessss... Another fan of the comics who thinks it'll be cool to adapt it on film ? :laugh:
Never read any Predator comics or novels.
You're missing out on quite a few entertaining stories and most of them comply really well with P1/P2. The comics that is. Just entertaining, standalone stories about Predator encounters.
I'm not such a big Predator fan. I love the concept but I guess I'm just not too interested into just other "Predator formula stories". This new movie, well, looks like more of the same.
I would like them to raise the Predator franchise to the next level. At least
Predators had a somewhat more innovative concept, taking the characters to a Predator hunting ground on another planet.
Oh joy, looks like they spoiled the last shot of the movie, grade A marketing right there.
https://media.giphy.com/media/QKkLykTKix7LE8nQBk/giphy.gif
Quote from: HashTag_TheSwag on Jun 26, 2018, 07:55:56 PM
Oh joy, looks like they spoiled the last shot of the movie, grade A marketing right there.
https://media.giphy.com/media/QKkLykTKix7LE8nQBk/giphy.gif
What are you talking about? The Dark Knight did the exact same thing in their very first trailer. And I'd argue that's the single greatest blockbuster of the last decade plus, and also by far one of the best and most creative marketing promotions for a film, ever. Without context you don't know that it's a final shot, and it doesn't lessen the impact of the actual scene.
It stills looks like a bad movie, at least the Preds look more decent, not seeing this on theaters, a real shame that they make zero effort in making a good movie, instead taking us as fools.
Quote from: HashTag_TheSwag on Jun 26, 2018, 07:55:56 PM
Oh joy, looks like they spoiled the last shot of the movie, grade A marketing right there.
https://media.giphy.com/media/QKkLykTKix7LE8nQBk/giphy.gif
Hum are you alright ? How could this be the last shot if there is a fight following this ? :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:
Grade A post right there lol.
"Did IQ's just drop sharply while i was away ?"
Quote from: HuDaFuK on Jun 26, 2018, 04:44:11 PM
Quote from: Doomofman on Jun 26, 2018, 01:18:35 PMTrailer was mostly good but that joke on the bus just seemed out of place and not delivered very well...
The impression I got was that Keegan Michael-Key was making the joke on purpose so that Thomas Jane could pick a fight with him, thus drawing in the guards and allowing them to take them out and escape the bus. In that context, it kinda makes sense.
More or less, yeah. It looks like they let Key improvise his lines a bit, since the mom joke was different, and better IMO, in the script. Very, very minor spoiler:
Spoiler
"Hey Baxley, how do you circumcise a homeless man? Kick your mom in the chin!" :laugh:
I'm liking the trailer, I am liking the neca to toy as well. I think this will be a worthy predator 3
Quote from: KiramidHead on Jun 26, 2018, 08:06:35 PMSpoiler
"Hey Baxley, how do you circumcise a homeless man? Kick your mom in the chin!" :laugh:
:laugh:
Quote from: D88M on Jun 26, 2018, 08:04:46 PM
It stills looks like a bad movie, at least the Preds look more decent, not seeing this on theaters, a real shame that they make zero effort in making a good movie, instead taking us as fools.
Who knows, you might end up liking the movie. You never know.
Now that trailer got me a bit hyped.
Haha big daddy! Delusional like a FOX ;)
Quote from: HashTag_TheSwag on Jun 26, 2018, 07:55:56 PM
Oh joy, looks like they spoiled the last shot of the movie, grade A marketing right there.
https://media.giphy.com/media/QKkLykTKix7LE8nQBk/giphy.gif
4 posts in and nothing but troll statements plus an Ace Ventura clip lol
Keep doing you, buddy! 👍 (or better yet don't)
:laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:
https://twitter.com/FreddyInSpace/status/1011612739352121347
Quote from: KiramidHead on Jun 26, 2018, 08:06:35 PM
Quote from: HuDaFuK on Jun 26, 2018, 04:44:11 PM
Quote from: Doomofman on Jun 26, 2018, 01:18:35 PMTrailer was mostly good but that joke on the bus just seemed out of place and not delivered very well...
The impression I got was that Keegan Michael-Key was making the joke on purpose so that Thomas Jane could pick a fight with him, thus drawing in the guards and allowing them to take them out and escape the bus. In that context, it kinda makes sense.
More or less, yeah. It looks like they let Key improvise his lines a bit, since the mom joke was different, and better IMO, in the script. Very, very minor spoiler:
Spoiler
"Hey Baxley, how do you circumcise a homeless man? Kick your mom in the chin!" :laugh:
I saw Shane Black use that joke in a tweet to a fan haha
I like the trailer. It accentuates the positive. But everything else I've seen and read suggests the trailer is only accurate from a certain point of view. >_>
Gotta admit i smiled at the vagina joke, the rest seems so generic, it could be any random sci fi cheap b movie, otherwise there is still nothing inviting me to see this in theaters
Question, is it me or does the Super Pred has resembling red spots on his forehead as the Berserk from Predators, I mean I know they look different, but the spots on the forehead remind me too much of the Berserk.
Seeing a lot of positivity and excitement on social media and in comment sections. Glad to see hype building up for casuals.
Quote from: azamultic on Jun 26, 2018, 08:50:51 PM
Question, is it me or does the Super Pred has resembling red spots on his forehead as the Berserk from Predators, I mean I know they look different, but the spots on the forehead remind me too much of the Berserk.
Yep we are disscusing it in design thread.
Quote from: D88M on Jun 26, 2018, 08:04:46 PM
It stills looks like a bad movie, at least the Preds look more decent, not seeing this on theaters, a real shame that they make zero effort in making a good movie, instead taking us as fools.
Sir I think you overeacting, yeh movie can fale, I am not debating that, but saying that a whole crew of professionals putzero effort in making good movie is simply not true, especially if you weren't in the production of this movie. I mean I am doing 3D models for games, and game can suck, but if some player will say that "they" I guess including me didn't put effort in making a good game, I would call it a silly and close-minded logic.
:laugh: :laugh: :laugh:
https://www.instagram.com/p/BkgB4XTjix-/?tagged=thepredator
Quote from: azamultic on Jun 26, 2018, 08:56:49 PM
Quote from: D88M on Jun 26, 2018, 08:04:46 PM
It stills looks like a bad movie, at least the Preds look more decent, not seeing this on theaters, a real shame that they make zero effort in making a good movie, instead taking us as fools.
Sir I think you overeacting, yeh movie can fale, I am not debating that, but saying that a whole crew of professionals putzero effort in making good movie is simply not true, especially if you weren't in the production of this movie. I mean I am doing 3D models for games, and game can suck, but if some player will say that "they" I guess including me didn't put effort in making a good game, I would call it a silly and close-minded logic.
Its okay you'll get used to him.
No, I do think that particular shot is the final shot of the film.
*spoilers / maybe
Predators had a similar ending shot.
Quote from: 426Buddy on Jun 26, 2018, 09:00:34 PM
Quote from: azamultic on Jun 26, 2018, 08:56:49 PM
Quote from: D88M on Jun 26, 2018, 08:04:46 PM
It stills looks like a bad movie, at least the Preds look more decent, not seeing this on theaters, a real shame that they make zero effort in making a good movie, instead taking us as fools.
Sir I think you overeacting, yeh movie can fale, I am not debating that, but saying that a whole crew of professionals putzero effort in making good movie is simply not true, especially if you weren't in the production of this movie. I mean I am doing 3D models for games, and game can suck, but if some player will say that "they" I guess including me didn't put effort in making a good game, I would call it a silly and close-minded logic.
Its okay you'll get used to him.
;D I guess so :)
I´m a simple man, I see Predators on the big screen, it puts a smile on my face.
To everybody who condemns this movie after the first trailer, just wait for it. You can still rant after you´ve seen it.
The vagina joke was just as godawful as all Blacks's godawful gags in Predator. The rest seems pretty cool.
Quote from: HashTag_TheSwag on Jun 26, 2018, 09:01:43 PM
No, I do think that particular shot is the final shot of the film.
*spoilers / maybe
Predators had a similar ending shot.
But, hum... How can i say this in the most simple way possible... THERE IS A FIGHT HAPPENING RIGHT AFTER THIS ! :laugh:
Quote from: SM on Jun 26, 2018, 09:17:35 PM
The vagina joke was just as godawful as all Blacks's godawful gags in Predator. The rest seems pretty cool.
You're going to love some of the loonies interactions then :laugh:
Quote from: DarthWall275 on Jun 26, 2018, 05:05:05 PM
Wow, that NECA figure looks great, I think i'll have to order that one. It also makes me wonder if there's a huge Upgrade somewhere down the line.
Now if only I could find an ultimate JH and CH for less than a small fortune.
You and I both, just started my collection on Father's day, Need JH and CH
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I hope we get those Pred vision sounds from the end of the trailer in the film. They are such a staple of the character, I hated AVP and Predators for changing them.
Finally saw it and dam it gave me chills. I still have some doubts about certain things but this trailer changed my mind about not wanting to see it on the big screen.
Quote from: TheBATMAN on Jun 26, 2018, 09:47:27 PM
I hope we get those Pred vision sounds from the end of the trailer in the film. They are such a staple of the character, I hated AVP and Predators for changing them.
By now, dynamic directional heartbeat would be so awesome... it was meant to be this way back then.
It was a great trailer, definitely gets me hyped despite some of my protests. I really really do love the Fugitive Predator though, it's a good design, his scenes look awesome, really wish this whole Upgrade Predator wasn't part of the movie. The Fugitive Predator is all this movie needs.
Can we please start calling him Dr. Kimble?
Got around to watching it, and I'm sold. It looks like there's going to be solid character dynamics, a good amount of blood, and the Predators look good. I'm also glad they haven't spoiled some of the crazier stuff from the script in any of the trailers yet, I still want some visual surprises. I hope we eventually get some tie in between the Uograde and the Super Preds, I agree that the last shot looks really Super Pred-y, especially the forehead.
The vagina joke worked for me, it was bad just like Black's jokes in the first movie.
My excitement level has definitely gone up after watching the trailer.
I saw Chattanooga on the VA sign. Is this movie set in Tennessee? If it is I'm definitely going to see it.
The "welcome parents and STD'S" joke was hilarious too.
So watching the trailer again, there's a shot of 2 things (Predator ships ?) flying over the Predator, as he looks up and turns around, could that be a hint of the other 2 Predator's arriving on earth ?
I was wondering about that shot as well.
Quote from: skull-splitter on Jun 26, 2018, 10:20:35 PM
Can we please start calling him Dr. Kimble?
Kimble Pred: I didn't kill my wife!
Upgrade: I don't care! *smashes Kimble into car*
Holy shit. I'm blown away. The trailer was f**king awesome. Event movie? Damn right!
Another thing I liked: the stuff with the captured Pred. I hope we get some good stuff with it being studied.
Anyone notice the lack of footage on the comrade Predators we saw set photos of?
Quote from: The Shuriken on Jun 27, 2018, 12:31:25 AM
Anyone notice the lack of footage on the comrade Predators we saw set photos of?
Yep.
It's basically the last reveal the film has left at this point aside of the mutants.
Quote from: Hollywood on Jun 26, 2018, 08:24:52 PM
Quote from: HashTag_TheSwag on Jun 26, 2018, 07:55:56 PM
Oh joy, looks like they spoiled the last shot of the movie, grade A marketing right there.
https://media.giphy.com/media/QKkLykTKix7LE8nQBk/giphy.gif
4 posts in and nothing but troll statements plus an Ace Ventura clip lol
Keep doing you, buddy! 👍 (or better yet don't)
What the f*ck are you talking about?
Quote from: SM on Jun 26, 2018, 09:17:35 PM
The vagina joke was just as godawful as all Blacks's godawful gags in Predator. The rest seems pretty cool.
Is there an echo in here?
Quote from: Yautja_Warrior on Jun 26, 2018, 11:20:41 PM
So watching the trailer again, there's a shot of 2 things (Predator ships ?) flying over the Predator, as he looks up and turns around, could that be a hint of the other 2 Predator's arriving on earth ?
Not likely.
Quote from: OpenMaw on Jun 27, 2018, 12:40:55 AM
Quote from: Hollywood on Jun 26, 2018, 08:24:52 PM
Quote from: HashTag_TheSwag on Jun 26, 2018, 07:55:56 PM
Oh joy, looks like they spoiled the last shot of the movie, grade A marketing right there.
https://media.giphy.com/media/QKkLykTKix7LE8nQBk/giphy.gif
4 posts in and nothing but troll statements plus an Ace Ventura clip lol
Keep doing you, buddy! 👍 (or better yet don't)
What the f*ck are you talking about?
https://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/index.php?action=profile;area=showposts;u=25104 (https://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/index.php?action=profile;area=showposts;u=25104)
"Predators don't just sit around making hats out of rib cages. They conquered space."*points to head- Think about it.*
I like this line, basically saying what everyone's been thinking for so long. Do these advanced beings really do nothing but hunt for trophies all day like a bunch of dumb-ass savages? Nope. can't wait to see what the Predators are really about.
Quote from: Huggs on Jun 26, 2018, 10:59:47 PM
I saw Chattanooga on the VA sign. Is this movie set in Tennessee? If it is I'm definitely going to see it.
The "welcome parents and STD'S" joke was hilarious too.
Spoiler
If I remember correctly, the bulk of the movie takes place in a GA suburb. But one of the larger Southern state-run psychiatric hospitals is located there, so that's probably where the whole Chattanooga VA thing comes into play. Popular place in the medical field down here. Our patients get lots of referrals to both places.
Quote from: Jigsaw85 on Jun 27, 2018, 01:00:31 AM
"Predators don't just sit around making hats out of rib cages. They conquered space."*points to head- Think about it.*
I like this line, basically saying what everyone's been thinking for so long. Do these advanced beings really do nothing but hunt for trophies all day like a bunch of dumb-ass savages? Nope. can't wait to see what the Predators are really about.
I'd hope not, but that's what the movies/comics have portrayed thus far :P
Much better trailer. This looks fun.
And that poster is absolutely boss!
At the 00:42 mark, Sterling K. Brown brief laugh very reminiscent to Billy's laugh. A nice callback and I wonder if we will get another mimic of someone's laugh. That would be great
I know what I like... and I like this.
That "If your mom was a video game" joke got me, mostly because of Keegan-Michael Key's delivery.
I like everything about it, but there's one deal breaker for me and that's the cast. Not saying they're bad, I like the inclusion of Jake Busey in particular, but the people they've chosen and the characters don't interest me that much. Not as much as Alien Covenant did, and that was just from the trailers. But I'll still give it a chance, regardless.
I f**king love this trailer. And the poster. The poster is just different from anything I'd expect from the movie, in a beautiful way. Like many here said, looks like the cover for a Predator comic book. And this trailer just got everything right. I love the display of Black's writing, really dig Sterling K. Brown's lines and just how intense the dialogue sounds. Plus, a better glimpse at Larry Fong's cinematography, which is one of the things I've been looking forward the most. That shot of the Captured (Fugitive now, I guess) Predator putting on his mask in a red lit chamber and his eyes glowing blue? f**king iconic.
Our react to the trailer is here:
I just want to point out that "Predators" is now officially their canon name, not "Yautja" or whatever bullshit Klingon name from the comics and novels.
Keyes called it a Predator in Predator 2.
Quote from: Jigsaw85 on Jun 27, 2018, 03:30:50 AM
I just want to point out that "Predators" is now officially their canon name, not "Yautja" or whatever bullshit Klingon name from the comics and novels.
Well reminded.
Granted the Predators in the books/comics only referred to themselves as "Yautja"...
IIRC in Rage War some Predators weren't even familiar with that term.
What I'm wondering is if Keegan will get blasted while yelling "Fus Ro Dah!"
Quote from: SM on Jun 27, 2018, 04:41:30 AM
IIRC in Rage War some Predators weren't even familiar with that term.
How did that conversation go? Were they all like "WTF you call me?!"
Personally, I don't want it to ever be established in the movies, but if people want to write stories with the term then so be it.
The Yautja thing never really bothered me. In the novels, the term gives them a sense of something greater. The predators in the books are elevated beyond the status of mere hunters or predators. There are memories, personalities, history, culture, tactics, motivations, etc. But for the movies, I prefer a straight-up predatory beast that just so happens to use technology to its advantage. It feels more alien, mysterious, and threatening. So I can enjoy both versions of the same creature in their own way. But I do believe that incorporating that particular term and all that comes with it into the films would be a negative thing. It would simply humanize them too much.
Quote from: PredBabe on Jun 27, 2018, 05:40:38 AM
Quote from: SM on Jun 27, 2018, 04:41:30 AM
IIRC in Rage War some Predators weren't even familiar with that term.
How did that conversation go? Were they all like "WTF you call me?!"
Personally, I don't want it to ever be established in the movies, but if people want to write stories with the term then so be it.
From memory someone says the word and the Predator gives them a bemused look.
Maybe it's their way of saying
(https://vignette.wikia.nocookie.net/masseffect/images/c/c9/You-keep-using-that-word.jpg/revision/latest/scale-to-width-down/640?cb=20160826222827)
Quote from: Huggs on Jun 27, 2018, 05:54:47 AM
The Yautja thing never really bothered me. In the novels, the term gives them a sense of something greater. The predators in the books are elevated beyond the status of mere hunters or predators. There are memories, personalities, history, culture, tactics, motivations, etc. But for the movies, I prefer a straight-up predatory beast that just so happens to use technology to its advantage. It feels more alien, mysterious, and threatening. So I can enjoy both versions of the same creature in their own way. But I do believe that incorporating that particular term and all that comes with it into the films would be a negative thing. It would simply humanize them too much.
Just looking at the lost tribe you can tell there's a lot of that there. It's just not
"This is Joe. He's an interior decorator. Don't you love what he's done with the place? Sort of a neo-caveman post modernist space ship look right?"
Quote from: SM on Jun 27, 2018, 06:01:36 AM
Quote from: PredBabe on Jun 27, 2018, 05:40:38 AM
Quote from: SM on Jun 27, 2018, 04:41:30 AM
IIRC in Rage War some Predators weren't even familiar with that term.
How did that conversation go? Were they all like "WTF you call me?!"
Personally, I don't want it to ever be established in the movies, but if people want to write stories with the term then so be it.
From memory someone says the word and the Predator gives them a bemused look.
Maybe it's their way of saying
(https://vignette.wikia.nocookie.net/masseffect/images/c/c9/You-keep-using-that-word.jpg/revision/latest/scale-to-width-down/640?cb=20160826222827)
It's probably the equivalent to a racial slur.
Quote from: Huggs on Jun 27, 2018, 05:54:47 AM
The Yautja thing never really bothered me. In the novels, the term gives them a sense of something greater. The predators in the books are elevated beyond the status of mere hunters or predators. There are memories, personalities, history, culture, tactics, motivations, etc. But for the movies, I prefer a straight-up predatory beast that just so happens to use technology to its advantage. It feels more alien, mysterious, and threatening. So I can enjoy both versions of the same creature in their own way. But I do believe that incorporating that particular term and all that comes with it into the films would be a negative thing. It would simply humanize them too much.
Exactly my thoughts, it's completely fun for stories that want to dive further into the personalities plus I loved Dachande's character. But the movies definitely shouldn't dive that deep-
Quote from: OpenMaw on Jun 27, 2018, 06:07:14 AM
"This is Joe. He's an interior decorator. Don't you love what he's done with the place? Sort of a neo-caveman post modernist space ship look right?"
... ever... :P ;D
Quote from: SM on Jun 27, 2018, 06:01:36 AM
Quote from: PredBabe on Jun 27, 2018, 05:40:38 AM
Quote from: SM on Jun 27, 2018, 04:41:30 AM
IIRC in Rage War some Predators weren't even familiar with that term.
How did that conversation go? Were they all like "WTF you call me?!"
Personally, I don't want it to ever be established in the movies, but if people want to write stories with the term then so be it.
From memory someone says the word and the Predator gives them a bemused look.
Maybe it's their way of saying
(https://vignette.wikia.nocookie.net/masseffect/images/c/c9/You-keep-using-that-word.jpg/revision/latest/scale-to-width-down/640?cb=20160826222827)
:laugh:
Quote from: OpenMaw on Jun 27, 2018, 06:07:14 AM
It's probably the equivalent to a racial slur.
Maybe it's how they say Grandma.
Awesome trailer, but i do fear they are showing too much,
The "we're still here, motherf**kers" bit felt like the final shot of the movie (the pullback). Kind of reminded me of the end of Predators" (I'm 99% likely to be wrong, but that's what I thought when I saw it *lol*)
The trailer was really fun, I am liking the cast more and more. Not a fan of the big Predator though.
Quote from: Russ on Jun 27, 2018, 08:04:20 AM
The "we're still here, motherf**kers" bit felt like the final shot of the movie (the pullback). Kind of reminded me of the end of Predators" (I'm 99% likely to be wrong, but that's what I thought when I saw it *lol*)
I thought that too.
Quote from: HashTag_TheSwag on Jun 26, 2018, 07:55:56 PM
Oh joy, looks like they spoiled the last shot of the movie, grade A marketing right there.
https://media.giphy.com/media/QKkLykTKix7LE8nQBk/giphy.gif
lol! because you chose to read the *leaked* script? lol!
now you're really spoiling it for the 90% who would be going in without any knowledge of the script
Quote from: von on Jun 27, 2018, 08:53:21 AM
Quote from: HashTag_TheSwag on Jun 26, 2018, 07:55:56 PM
Oh joy, looks like they spoiled the last shot of the movie, grade A marketing right there.
https://media.giphy.com/media/QKkLykTKix7LE8nQBk/giphy.gif
lol! because you chose to read the *leaked* script? lol!
now you're really spoiling it for the 90% who would be going in without any knowledge of the script
If you regulary watch films, that one shot has "last shot of the film" written all over it.
Quote from: Jigsaw85 on Jun 27, 2018, 03:30:50 AM
I just want to point out that "Predators" is now officially their canon name, not "Yautja" or whatever bullshit Klingon name from the comics and novels.
Music to my ears.
Looks like Predator vs Predator!
Quote from: skull-splitter on Jun 27, 2018, 09:06:39 AM
Quote from: von on Jun 27, 2018, 08:53:21 AM
Quote from: HashTag_TheSwag on Jun 26, 2018, 07:55:56 PM
Oh joy, looks like they spoiled the last shot of the movie, grade A marketing right there.
https://media.giphy.com/media/QKkLykTKix7LE8nQBk/giphy.gif
lol! because you chose to read the *leaked* script? lol!
now you're really spoiling it for the 90% who would be going in without any knowledge of the script
If you regulary watch films, that one shot has "last shot of the film" written all over it.
Quote from: Jigsaw85 on Jun 27, 2018, 03:30:50 AM
I just want to point out that "Predators" is now officially their canon name, not "Yautja" or whatever bullshit Klingon name from the comics and novels.
Music to my ears.
Yeah... I still haven't read the original script but with comments like this one I'm thinking by now why don't you simply share the script? There's literally no reason not to post it anymore as all the spoiler snippets I've found here, along with comments such as the one above have revealed the entire story anyway. I wonder if people who're truly unspoiled feel that the trailer tells the entire plot or not.) Anyway by now, knowing what I do from reading this forum, I'd just like to see more of the actual dialogue. I know it's been changed but we got the E for everybody already. I hope some of you will share the original script for that reason alone.
Quote from: oldnorse on Jun 27, 2018, 10:05:13 AMI wonder if people who're truly unspoiled feel that the trailer tells the entire plot or not.
I've purposely avoided reading anything about the leaked script. I don't really feel the trailer spoils anything substantial about the overall plot.
Sure, it reveals there's a new hybrid that's fighting the older Predators, but that doesn't say anything about the wheres and whys of this.
Going off some people's reactions to the trailer, it seems like people are thinking they know the whole plot.
If most of it hasn't been changed or cut out, they still have no clue about Jake Busey's character, the 2 other Predators that team up with the Mercs and the Predator Dog creatures.
Hell most people are only just figuring out Tom Jane is in the movie lol I really hope most of it makes the cut just to surprise people now.
Maybe I missed it, but since when was Tom Jane a selling point for a film? I mean, I like the guy, but he never made a great movie star...
Quote from: oldnorse on Jun 27, 2018, 10:05:13 AM
Quote from: skull-splitter on Jun 27, 2018, 09:06:39 AM
Quote from: von on Jun 27, 2018, 08:53:21 AM
Quote from: HashTag_TheSwag on Jun 26, 2018, 07:55:56 PM
Oh joy, looks like they spoiled the last shot of the movie, grade A marketing right there.
https://media.giphy.com/media/QKkLykTKix7LE8nQBk/giphy.gif
lol! because you chose to read the *leaked* script? lol!
now you're really spoiling it for the 90% who would be going in without any knowledge of the script
If you regulary watch films, that one shot has "last shot of the film" written all over it.
Quote from: Jigsaw85 on Jun 27, 2018, 03:30:50 AM
I just want to point out that "Predators" is now officially their canon name, not "Yautja" or whatever bullshit Klingon name from the comics and novels.
Music to my ears.
Yeah... I still haven't read the original script but with comments like this one I'm thinking by now why don't you simply share the script? There's literally no reason not to post it anymore as all the spoiler snippets I've found here, along with comments such as the one above have revealed the entire story anyway. I wonder if people who're truly unspoiled feel that the trailer tells the entire plot or not.) Anyway by now, knowing what I do from reading this forum, I'd just like to see more of the actual dialogue. I know it's been changed but we got the E for everybody already. I hope some of you will share the original script for that reason alone.
Haven't read it either. But main character looking up mumbling some heroic shit while his kid seemingly at ease next to him just screams "last shot".
Great trailer, cant wait for this now.
Quote from: HuDaFuK on Jun 27, 2018, 10:15:45 AM
Quote from: oldnorse on Jun 27, 2018, 10:05:13 AMI wonder if people who're truly unspoiled feel that the trailer tells the entire plot or not.
I've purposely avoided reading anything about the leaked script. I don't really feel the trailer spoils anything substantial about the overall plot.
Sure, it reveals there's a new hybrid that's fighting the older Predators, but that doesn't say anything about the wheres and whys of this.
I could predict what is going down by just what I've seen already, but I'd like to be surprised. They pulled some unexpected shit with iron man 3 and all those trailers...
Quote from: Yautja_Warrior on Jun 26, 2018, 11:20:41 PM
So watching the trailer again, there's a shot of 2 things (Predator ships ?) flying over the Predator, as he looks up and turns around, could that be a hint of the other 2 Predator's arriving on earth ?
F-22 raptors, they are in the script.
Quote from: Scorpio on Jun 27, 2018, 02:11:25 AM
I like everything about it, but there's one deal breaker for me and that's the cast. Not saying they're bad, I like the inclusion of Jake Busey in particular, but the people they've chosen and the characters don't interest me that much. Not as much as Alien Covenant did, and that was just from the trailers. But I'll still give it a chance, regardless.
Dude you're too far gone :laugh:
Quote from: BigDaddyJohn on Jun 27, 2018, 12:14:44 PM
Quote from: Yautja_Warrior on Jun 26, 2018, 11:20:41 PM
So watching the trailer again, there's a shot of 2 things (Predator ships ?) flying over the Predator, as he looks up and turns around, could that be a hint of the other 2 Predator's arriving on earth ?
F-22 raptors, they are in the script.
Yes, they are 2 F22s...sent after
Spoiler
the Ark to 'escort' or shoot it...if I remember well.
That poster is a heck of a spoiler? So much for the new 'Fugitive' Pred...
Quote from: skull-splitter on Jun 27, 2018, 10:46:22 AM
Maybe I missed it, but since when was Tom Jane a selling point for a film? I mean, I like the guy, but he never made a great movie star...
Tom Jane is an awesome guy and an underrated actor. He might not be a mega star but the guy is a decent.
Quote from: Xerxész on Jun 27, 2018, 12:34:54 PM
Quote from: BigDaddyJohn on Jun 27, 2018, 12:14:44 PM
Quote from: Yautja_Warrior on Jun 26, 2018, 11:20:41 PM
So watching the trailer again, there's a shot of 2 things (Predator ships ?) flying over the Predator, as he looks up and turns around, could that be a hint of the other 2 Predator's arriving on earth ?
F-22 raptors, they are in the script.
Yes, they are 2 F22s...sent after Spoiler
the Ark to 'escort' or shoot it...if I remember well.
Ah right fair enough, not read the script to be honest, just seen a basic breakdown of it. I did wonder because I thought it was said the other Predator's are already on earth anyway.
It's fun trying to put it all together though, I'm looking forward to watching this.
I saw someone post that we didn't see the "other" Predators ... but; at around 1:58 in the trailer .. you can actually see the "friendly" Predators on one of the APC's...
I'll be seeing this one week before it releases. Can't wait.
Quote from: SyntaX on Jun 27, 2018, 12:57:22 PM
I saw someone post that we didn't see the "other" Predators ... but; at around 1:58 in the trailer .. you can actually see the "friendly" Predators on one of the APC's...
I'll be seeing this one week before it releases. Can't wait.
Yeah there's the quick shot of one, not that anyone would really be able to tell it's a Predator, unless they already know about them, maybe they are actually going to save them for the movie to surprise people.
With how film trailers normally go, I've been very surprised they have shown them in all their glory though and kinda hope they don't ruin the surprise in any further trailers now, even though I'm dying to see them in action.
So, how many Predators do we have in this one?
4?
2 helping the humans...
1 "captured" one...
1 Hybrid ...
Quote from: Yautja_Warrior on Jun 27, 2018, 12:46:48 PM
Quote from: skull-splitter on Jun 27, 2018, 10:46:22 AM
Maybe I missed it, but since when was Tom Jane a selling point for a film? I mean, I like the guy, but he never made a great movie star...
Tom Jane is an awesome guy and an underrated actor. He might not be a mega star but the guy is a decent.
Quote from: Xerxész on Jun 27, 2018, 12:34:54 PM
Quote from: BigDaddyJohn on Jun 27, 2018, 12:14:44 PM
Quote from: Yautja_Warrior on Jun 26, 2018, 11:20:41 PM
So watching the trailer again, there's a shot of 2 things (Predator ships ?) flying over the Predator, as he looks up and turns around, could that be a hint of the other 2 Predator's arriving on earth ?
F-22 raptors, they are in the script.
Yes, they are 2 F22s...sent after Spoiler
the Ark to 'escort' or shoot it...if I remember well.
Ah right fair enough, not read the script to be honest, just seen a basic breakdown of it. I did wonder because I thought it was said the other Predator's are already on earth anyway.
It's fun trying to put it all together though, I'm looking forward to watching this.
I get that, but my point still is: since when is he a movie selling factor?
The poster z f**king great!!. Trailer is much much better as well.
Cant wait for 1st day 1st show @ IMAX
Quote from: Tubecity on Jun 27, 2018, 12:38:06 PM
That poster is a heck of a spoiler? So much for the new 'Fugitive' Pred...
Not really actually because
Spoiler
the "friendly" predators wear the same mask as well
Quote from: WolfPre on Jun 27, 2018, 01:54:04 PM
The poster z f**king great!!. Trailer is much much better as well.
Cant wait for 1st day 1st show @ IMAX
You and me same😁
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Quote from: skull-splitter on Jun 27, 2018, 01:48:49 PM
Quote from: Yautja_Warrior on Jun 27, 2018, 12:46:48 PM
Quote from: skull-splitter on Jun 27, 2018, 10:46:22 AM
Maybe I missed it, but since when was Tom Jane a selling point for a film? I mean, I like the guy, but he never made a great movie star...
Tom Jane is an awesome guy and an underrated actor. He might not be a mega star but the guy is a decent.
Quote from: Xerxész on Jun 27, 2018, 12:34:54 PM
Quote from: BigDaddyJohn on Jun 27, 2018, 12:14:44 PM
Quote from: Yautja_Warrior on Jun 26, 2018, 11:20:41 PM
So watching the trailer again, there's a shot of 2 things (Predator ships ?) flying over the Predator, as he looks up and turns around, could that be a hint of the other 2 Predator's arriving on earth ?
F-22 raptors, they are in the script.
Yes, they are 2 F22s...sent after Spoiler
the Ark to 'escort' or shoot it...if I remember well.
Ah right fair enough, not read the script to be honest, just seen a basic breakdown of it. I did wonder because I thought it was said the other Predator's are already on earth anyway.
It's fun trying to put it all together though, I'm looking forward to watching this.
I get that, but my point still is: since when is he a movie selling factor?
He's a pretty well known actor, he was The Punisher and has a decent fan base, so his name could pull in some people.
Normally when movie's have well known actors, their name is usually all over it. I was just surprised to see the marketing not feature him much, that's all.
Quote from: SyntaX on Jun 27, 2018, 01:20:36 PM
So, how many Predators do we have in this one?
4?
2 helping the humans...
1 "captured" one...
1 Hybrid ...
Exactly.
Captured - the predator we see in the trailers.
Upgrade - the film's big boss, we saw him in the trailers briefly.
2 'Friendly predators' - we haven't seen them yet...from close.
There will be other hybrid creatures, such as Predator Dogs and spider-like creatures, and what is still not clear for me from the leaked script is that there are other hybrid Predators (that are Predators similar to the Upgrade just not so upgraded) beyond the mentioned above?
Somebody who read the script please lighten me up. :)
The Punisher was 2004. And about his only bigger film other than The Mist.
Not saying he's a bad actor, but he's not A-list material like the post almost implied.
When the NBA trailer aired, I mentioned the Super Pred having Dutch DNA.
Now there is a fan theory being floated and Bloody Disgusting wrote about the Super Pred having Dutch DNA.
That would be a cool "ode" to Dutch, let alone the original.
Quote from: Original Predator on Jun 27, 2018, 03:14:55 PM
When the NBA trailer aired, I mentioned the Super Pred having Dutch DNA.
Now there is a fan theory being floated and Bloody Disgusting wrote about the Super Pred having Dutch DNA.
That would be a cool "ode" to Dutch, let alone the original.
I'd say ridiculous and useless, more than cool IMO
Quote from: skull-splitter on Jun 27, 2018, 03:07:40 PM
The Punisher was 2004. And about his only bigger film other than The Mist.
Not saying he's a bad actor, but he's not A-list material like the post almost implied.
Oh yeah I know, my post was never really trying to imply anything like he was a major AAA list star or anything, my original comment was just about people didn't know he was in the movie, as I've seen a few people notice him in the new trailer.
I'd put his name and acting ability way higher than Munn though.
Dutch's DNA would be kind of lame...
Quote from: skull-splitter on Jun 27, 2018, 03:49:01 PM
Dutch's DNA would be kind of lame...
Really?!?!?
I think that would be cool.
Better than say.... a child wearing a Pred wrist-gauntlet....
Nooo not a child! Kids are teh worst and alwayz triggerz me! They destroy all that is good in movies!
Quote from: skull-splitter on Jun 27, 2018, 03:49:01 PM
Dutch's DNA would be kind of lame...
I agree. It would be pretty dumb fan service in the realm of fan fiction.
Quote from: Original Predator on Jun 27, 2018, 03:55:52 PM
Quote from: skull-splitter on Jun 27, 2018, 03:49:01 PM
Dutch's DNA would be kind of lame...
Really?!?!?
I think that would be cool.
Better than say.... a child wearing a Pred wrist-gauntlet....
It's fan fiction quality, and not the good kind.
still a no-sale for me. just cos they removed all the dreck about the kid etc from the trailer doesn't mean they removed it from the film.
Any time anyone bitches a bout the kid, it makes me think they've never seen a Shane Black movie.
At least the kid scenario has the potential to be an entertaining new perspective for a Predator movie...
Dutch's DNA offers nothing.
Quote from: VanXant on Jun 27, 2018, 05:30:06 PM
still a no-sale for me. just cos they removed all the dreck about the kid etc from the trailer doesn't mean they removed it from the film.
Tremblay was filming his scenes since February 2017 until the reshoots earlier this year. Did you really think they were cutting his role out?
Quote from: Hollywood on Jun 10, 2017, 09:07:56 PM
Quote from: VanXant on Jun 10, 2017, 05:54:48 PM
because Blake's 7 only had that one set, right?
Yeah, ok.
Post the set pic you think it looks like, I'll wait patiently.
You never got back to me about this regarding the ark set pic ☝️
Quote from: HuDaFuK on Jun 27, 2018, 05:34:23 PM
Any time anyone bitches a bout the kid, it makes me think they've never seen a Shane Black movie.
The kid was one of the best characters in The Nice Guys. Although with this one I keep expecting one of the Loonies to say "We established that your son smokes grass- in the house!"
did anyone notice the trailer kept using the same predator roar.wav sound effect/
Screencaps?
Quote from: genocyber on Jun 27, 2018, 07:18:13 PM
did anyone notice the trailer kept using the same predator roar.wav sound effect/
Sources are limited and new ones take time and need to be applied to the new film. Fingers crossed they have the same source.
Some cool screenshots and details about the new trailer! ;)
Well, in this picture we can clearly see the Upgrade's humanish eyes. :-\ So, this
(https://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=60113.0;attach=8843;image)
CGI greatly improves in the last months of finishing a film. Not too worried.
Quote from: genocyber on Jun 27, 2018, 07:18:13 PM
did anyone notice the trailer kept using the same predator roar.wav sound effect/
I thought that was deliberate. Also love the gauntlet timer soundtrack. On the whole they did a fine job with this trailer.
Correct me if I'm wrong, but it sounds like they pulled the audio for the Predator's roar from 1, and the death roar from the end of predator 2 and layered them on top of each other. They use this sound clip three times. Seems like they also recycled the clicking sounds from predator 1 as well.
Quote from: Xerxész on Jun 27, 2018, 09:23:39 PM
Well, in this picture we can clearly see the Upgrade's humanish eyes. :-\ So, this
https://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=60113.0;attach=8843;image
I was expecting much, much worse. It appears that the main difference is the color of the iris? Or maybe it's just one giant pupil.
How the hell a human-Predator hybrid is STRONGER than a Predator? :-\
Quote from: skull-splitter on Jun 27, 2018, 08:19:46 PM
Quote from: genocyber on Jun 27, 2018, 07:18:13 PM
did anyone notice the trailer kept using the same predator roar.wav sound effect/
Sources are limited and new ones take time and need to be applied to the new film. Fingers crossed they have the same source.
I doubt it. they did the same crap with Predators.
Rip the sound of out of your copy of AVP2 Gold Edition, throw it on your time line, INSTANT NOSTALGIA.
Hell, i'm not even sure if anyone knows how the roars were made anymore.
Quote from: Magegg on Jun 28, 2018, 01:21:07 AM
How the hell a human-Predator hybrid is STRONGER than a Predator? :-\
Right? It's like if a body builder spliced their genes with the ultimate predator on the planet: The Least Weasel!
I wonder to what extent all the splicing has on this Predator's physical appearance. I think they are definitely insinuating that the upgrade is that large from all the splicing, which apparently isn't only humans, but I kind of liked the whole different breeds Predators did and like to think that that is also playing a part in upgrade's extra large build. Also some may just like to bulk up.
Quote from: Magegg on Jun 28, 2018, 01:21:07 AM
How the hell a human-Predator hybrid is STRONGER than a Predator? :-\
It's that growth hormone.
Splicing obviously isn't an exact science (in movie land) , I mean if you could splice yourself with an Ant or a bird, who's to say it would give you better strength or vision.
The big guy could be an experiment by the predators themselves or more than one splice of species. Not really bothered here personally. It's just there to look cool.
Quote from: Highland on Jun 28, 2018, 02:29:55 AM
Splicing obviously isn't an exact science (in movie land) , I mean if you could splice yourself with an Ant or a bird, who's to say it would give you better strength or vision.
The big guy could be an experiment by the predators themselves or more than one splice of species. Not really bothered here personally. It's just there to look cool.
Hunting down predators as revenge for his severe case of Frankenstein would be a wild motive, but a bit cliché. Still, could we wind up sympathizing with Big Chad here?
Well he probably won't be as hated as Big Chet... and he doesn't randomly kill a load of pregnant women, so he's less of an asshole.
Chet was honestly the ugliest motherf**ker, not even the Newborn can complete with his ridiculous frame, colour, texture or glued on mandibles.
Maybe the reshoots will have him shrink down to size of a mouse like ol' Gossamer from the looney tunes. He'll let out tiny little high-pitched predator roars as he runs past their feet and jumps in a tiny spaceship before flying away. Cue the final shot of everyone looking up at the sky and cussing him out.
Maybe in an after credits scene he crashes in a backyard, and get's adopted by some little girl who puts dresses on him and calls him Mr. Budkins.
"I am not Mr. Budkins! I am a highly evolved universe conquering organism!"
On a side note, did anyone else notice that soldier mannequin that was falling in the stairwell, dear god.
Quote from: Huggs on Jun 28, 2018, 03:03:05 AM
On a side note, did anyone else notice that soldier mannequin that was falling in the stairwell, dear god.
That mannequin is a real thespian.
Quote from: OpenMaw on Jun 28, 2018, 03:30:45 AM
Quote from: Huggs on Jun 28, 2018, 03:03:05 AM
On a side note, did anyone else notice that soldier mannequin that was falling in the stairwell, dear god.
That mannequin is a real thespian.
Yet so graceful. The choreography was just superb. He needs a name. Wolfgang, Chuck, Dennis? Yeah, he looks like a Dennis to me. And I'm going to blame any failure of this movie on him. "Well, it was fine until Dennis fell into frame and ruined the movie".
Or are they contracting out security to Seegson? Maybe he's an android!?
Hey, you know what they say Huggs.
You always know a working Joe! *fist pump*
Quote from: Huggs on Jun 28, 2018, 02:37:06 AM
Quote from: Highland on Jun 28, 2018, 02:29:55 AM
Splicing obviously isn't an exact science (in movie land) , I mean if you could splice yourself with an Ant or a bird, who's to say it would give you better strength or vision.
The big guy could be an experiment by the predators themselves or more than one splice of species. Not really bothered here personally. It's just there to look cool.
Hunting down predators as revenge for his severe case of Frankenstein would be a wild motive, but a bit cliché. Still, could we wind up sympathizing with Big Chad here?
Well it appears to me (not read the script) that Chad is what she knows is on the ship. So either the humans made chad and the Predators are coming for him, or the humans know about Chad for some reason.
Chads gota be mad at something right?!
Quote from: Huggs on Jun 28, 2018, 02:16:58 AM
Quote from: Magegg on Jun 28, 2018, 01:21:07 AM
How the hell a human-Predator hybrid is STRONGER than a Predator? :-\
It's that growth hormone.
They did have a taste for beef...
Predator (1987) - time of action 1987
Predator 2 (1990) - time of action 1997
The Predator (2018) - time of action 2018
Predators (2010) - time of action ??? ??? ???
Quote from: Tetsujin on Jun 28, 2018, 09:31:46 AM
Predator (1987) - time of action 1987
Predator 2 (1990) - time of action 1997
The Predator (2018) - time of action 2018
Predators (2010) - time of action ??? ??? ???
Predators (2010) - 2010
Quote from: Master on Jun 28, 2018, 09:44:54 AMPredators (2010) - 2010
No way! :)
Shane Black:
QuoteThe events of Predators, the Robert Rodriquez one, have not happened yet and Predator 2 has probably happened already
Maybe a year later, but that does ring a bell when it comes to the Proidator.
I can't recall if they ever stated any dates during production. But I tend to think it was set contempoary to filming. It seems to me he just thinks it's in the future because it's on another planet...
Quote from: Tetsujin on Jun 28, 2018, 09:48:40 AM
Quote from: Master on Jun 28, 2018, 09:44:54 AMPredators (2010) - 2010
No way! :)
Shane Black:QuoteThe events of Predators, the Robert Rodriquez one, have not happened yet and Predator 2 has probably happened already
It's Black's opinion. Predators happened in 2010 and yes, it is canon. I would be cautious about what people say.
Link to what? Logic?
Relax. Just interesting.
Robert Rodriguez say 2010 or who? Or its just you want to be a 2010?
I do not remember that in the film was said - "year 2010"
Quote from: HuDaFuK on Jun 27, 2018, 05:34:23 PM
Any time anyone bitches a bout the kid, it makes me think they've never seen a Shane Black movie.
+ 10000
And for those who are wondering how can DNA from humans can make a pred bigger and stronger, well he's supposed to have other alien species DNA injected in him, so who knows what it could do.
The line about Predators 2010 not having happened yet makes me wonder if they are intending to tie the Upgrade in with the Super Preds.
Quote from: Ultramorph on Jun 28, 2018, 12:16:01 PM
The line about Predators 2010 not having happened yet makes me wonder if they are intending to tie the Upgrade in with the Super Preds.
think so, hope so, perhaps have a more unified universe for them all.
Screen caps for the new trailer are now up.
https://www.avpgalaxy.net/gallery/thumbnails.php?album=378
Quote from: genocyber on Jun 27, 2018, 07:18:13 PM
did anyone notice the trailer kept using the same predator roar.wav sound effect/
I think it's the roar used in the AVP2 game from 2001, when you heal yourself with needles, the one that has two roars mixed together.
Quote from: Master on Jun 28, 2018, 11:27:17 AMIt's Black's opinion. Predators happened in 2010 and yes, it is canon. I would be cautious about what people say.
There's nothing to prove when Predators is set, other than it being vaguely contemporary based on the gear the guys are carrying.
If Black wants to move it a few years later and set his film beforehand, it contradicts nothing.
We can always chalk it up to time dilation.
Shane Black:
Quote
(The events of Predators, the Robert Rodriquez one, have not happened yet and Predator 2 has probably happened already) Well, at least for me. . it hints that Shane Black know what is the true reason for Rodrigues Predators are being set after this one, maybe that event in this movie will somehow connect the story with the previous film. Judging just by the one scene from the trailer where Predator firing his wristblade or something. . it clearly tell us that Shane also take some influence from Rodrigues Predators (no problem with it) so stuff like singular wristblade and even the whole Bad Blood element alone, these are just a few examples of that. I wouldnt be surprised if the Hybrid will be another advanced Predator from the Berserker's family. Yet, still its very important to say that the abductions are happening in our terms at least a couple of hundret "Earth-years", thats why Hanzo sayd "This is old, very old" when he grap the katana, it was simple a weapon from an old, long dead warrior from ancient times. Even the Noland has some of his equipment attached on his body. Interesting,
Quote from: KiramidHead on Jun 28, 2018, 12:51:04 PM
We can always chalk it up to time dilation.
That plus the possibility of the characters being asleep for years before being dropped into the planet. I don't think we will get much reference to Predators either way.
The Super Pred does have similar physical characteristics to the Super Preds in Predators. I think Black is leaving no movie untethered. I read he's even going to acknowledge AVP universe.
^Hope we get a passing reference to Predators in the Arctic or something from one of the scientists. That would be just enough.
Quote from: Ultramorph on Jun 28, 2018, 02:35:24 PM
^Hope we get a passing reference to Predators in the Arctic or something from one of the scientists. That would be just enough.
I too would like to see all the movies tied together - as someone else mentioned, it makes for a more unified universe. I don't mind slight retconning if it's needed to make that unity work, though I don't think it's necessary at this point. For all its faults, I still liked Predators enough to want it to stay in the main canon. There are definite similarities between the Super Preds and Upgrade to make it seem like that's the route Black is taking.
Quote from: BigDaddyJohn on Jun 28, 2018, 12:12:38 PM
well he's supposed to have other alien species DNA injected in him, so who knows what it could do.
Ok...
Why are the captured Preds mandibles so huge, reminds me of unmasked Scar.
Btw, liking how the Upgrade looks.
Quote from: Aliens Exist on Jun 28, 2018, 10:27:56 PM
Why are the captured Preds mandibles so huge, reminds me of unmasked Scar.
You know what they say... big mandibles, big egos!
The Upgrade is like the Brock Lesnar of Preds.
Does it say when the predator take place? Couldn't predators still take place in 2010 and this is before? Have we seen any cars or phones in the trailer, since that would give away the date.
Quote from: KiramidHead on Jun 29, 2018, 12:15:15 AM
The Upgrade is like the Brock Lesnar of Preds.
I see. Not natty at all.
Quote from: bobcunk on Jun 29, 2018, 01:42:22 AM
Does it say when the predator take place? Couldn't predators still take place in 2010 and this is before? Have we seen any cars or phones in the trailer, since that would give away the date.
I heard somewhere that this was set before Predators. Can't confirm.
Quote from: bobcunk on Jun 29, 2018, 01:42:22 AM
Does it say when the predator take place? Couldn't predators still take place in 2010 and this is before? Have we seen any cars or phones in the trailer, since that would give away the date.
The abductions in Predators could take place in 2010, who's to know when they were thawed out and dumped on the preserve though?
Quote from: The Old One on Jun 29, 2018, 02:40:57 AM
Quote from: bobcunk on Jun 29, 2018, 01:42:22 AM
Does it say when the predator take place? Couldn't predators still take place in 2010 and this is before? Have we seen any cars or phones in the trailer, since that would give away the date.
The abductions in Predators could take place in 2010, who's to know when they were thawed out and dumped on the preserve though?
Right, I don't think we have any clue as to when the actual hunts on the planet took place, the hunts that included Royce and Co. (I thought it was mentioned somewhere that this movie was supposed to happen before Predators. I know several quotes have been brought up in this thread regarding the timeline, but I don't remember the actual article that stated this.)
It would be cool if at the end of the film, a ship crashes in front of the characters. the doors open and out walks Royce and Isabelle.
Black said a couple of times in interviews that The Predator takes places in current date, but before Predators.
Quote from: Danversity on Jun 29, 2018, 03:48:52 AM
Black said a couple of times in interviews that The Predator takes places in current date, but before Predators.
Ok his movie takes place in 2018. But how does he know Predators didn't take place before that? It's not his movie, Predators could have taken place in 2010, it was never established. Not that I mind which one comes first in the timeline... well whatever.
Quote from: Samhain13 on Jun 29, 2018, 04:02:43 AM
Quote from: Danversity on Jun 29, 2018, 03:48:52 AM
Black said a couple of times in interviews that The Predator takes places in current date, but before Predators.
Ok his movie takes place in 2018. But how does he know Predators didn't take place before that? It's not his movie, Predators could have taken place in 2010, it was never established. Not that I mind which one comes first in the timeline... well whatever.
Whether Predators is his movie or not it's irrelevant. Shane Black is the current author behind the Predator franchise, he and Dekker are the storytellers behind it now, so they're the ones who decide what is what on this universe. The fact that Predators does not estabilish a specific time setting nor does it have anything that gives away a specific 2010 setting only means Black can place that movie wherever he wants to. Could it be set in 2010? Yes it could. But now we know it's not. There's always the possibility that Fox knew the actual setting of Predators and Black could've got the information from them - this is the kind of stuff screenwriters think of even if they don't mention it in the final film, and since Fox owns the rights to the story they should know more specific details that were left out. But that doesn't really matter, what matters is the information that does get to the audience, and the setting of Predators never did, so if Black says Predators is not set in 2010, then it's just not.
Predators was without date and offered nothing to pin point it on, except Afganistan.
And it's ok. If I'm reading between the lines Black wants to blend all the previous titles together and perhaps offer this film sort of as a hub for the other films to connect to.
Or maybe that is just me wishful thinking.
Fox being bought up by the mouse implies Disney want to monetise all the franchises Fox owns, including Alien and Predator. This probably means some stand alone films down the line and a more proper Alien versus Predator franchise if those do well. So far Disney has been willing to bet big and win in 90% of the time.
Although I hope Disney doesn't pull those franchises through the Marvel mould. I mean, I love Star Wars and actually like what Rian Johnson did with The Last Jedi, it's the timing and length of the comedic parts that got taken a little to far if you ask me. Just a little. Solo did it better. Also, a little more time between action scenes would do any franchise good. Sometimes less makes you care about characters.
Predators should originally happened before Shane Black film - so, almost anyone think that Predators are third movie in the line, but Shane himself previously said that the event in Predators is happening after his movie, that means that Predators are in fact the fourth and latest movie-story, so I personaly think that he made his film to be set before that in order to build up some more informations about Bad Blood Predators and maybe put some light on why exactly they abducting humans from Earth, and why they are the "Bad" in the first place. Shane also said that in his movie we will get more answers about different Predator roles and their different functions, so again. . this is the whole aspect of why he wants to set his movie before Predators. We will learn more about them, about their motivations and their differences. Predators show us a fight between two Predators, this idea will evolve in Shane story where this Hybrid basically replace the Berserker, but in fact. . Bad Blood concept is the main focus here, DNA hybridization or not, its about Bad Bloods. ;D
Not exactly guys. Nicolai said he was in combat during the war in Chechnya. Second Checnya War was ended in 2009. Of course we don't know how long it takes to travel to the game preserve but we should assume not that long for Predator. 2010 in that regard seems about right.
Would love a Dutch and Harrigan mention/ode, someway somehow.
Quote from: Original Predator on Jun 29, 2018, 02:31:25 PM
Would love a Dutch and Harrigan mention/ode, someway somehow.
Only as a reference, anything more would be considered a fan service and not a good one in my book.
I think Busey will give a good info dump to Munn, that secene will probably be where we get references to older movies.
Quote from: Ultramorph on Jun 29, 2018, 06:02:57 PM
I think Busey will give a good info dump to Munn, that secene will probably be where we get references to older movies.
It would've been cool to have Arnold do a voice-only cameo. The characters could listen to a recording of Dutch being debriefed about what happened with the predator. Maybe it could be some bootleg copy one of the loonies has. There would be no need to film anything with Arnold but he'd still technically be there and we'd still get references to the old movies.
Quote from: Huggs on Jun 29, 2018, 07:43:55 PM
Quote from: Ultramorph on Jun 29, 2018, 06:02:57 PM
I think Busey will give a good info dump to Munn, that secene will probably be where we get references to older movies.
It would've been cool to have Arnold do a voice-only cameo. The characters could listen to a recording of Dutch being debriefed about what happened with the predator. Maybe it could be some bootleg copy one of the loonies has. There would be no need to film anything with Arnold but he'd still technically be there and we'd still get references to the old movies.
This would "trigger" a lot of people. Because it would be something for the "old" fans and would ruin the entire movie. And also be a disservice to the Predator evolution.
quick spoilery question to those that have read the script...does the upgrade get defeated in a satisfying way? one thing that disappointed me about predators was how easily the "super predators" were defeated.
Looks generic as hell. B-class movie. And that joke about vagina is pathetic. I'm just judging the trailer. Who knows, movie might be good.
This looks horrible.
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Quote from: frenchfries on Jun 29, 2018, 08:55:49 PM
quick spoilery question to those that have read the script...does the upgrade get defeated in a satisfying way? one thing that disappointed me about predators was how easily the "super predators" were defeated.
Since a lot of the final act has been reshot, we don't even know if it'll happen like it was initially planned but
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the final fight is a 3 vs 1 : the kid, his dad and the scientist woman. Each one of them do some damage to the upgrade, the kid activates a shield from the pred ship that cuts off one of his arms because he was leaning on the shell, the woman cuts off his "hair" which disorientates him, and the kid's dad uses the severed pred arm to shoot arrows from it, after having added an explosive device on it, which blows up the upgrade. After that, he finishes him off on the ground with a gunshot in the eye. All of this happen in the florida swamps.
Quote from: Original Predator on Jun 29, 2018, 08:46:33 PM
Quote from: Huggs on Jun 29, 2018, 07:43:55 PM
Quote from: Ultramorph on Jun 29, 2018, 06:02:57 PM
I think Busey will give a good info dump to Munn, that secene will probably be where we get references to older movies.
It would've been cool to have Arnold do a voice-only cameo. The characters could listen to a recording of Dutch being debriefed about what happened with the predator. Maybe it could be some bootleg copy one of the loonies has. There would be no need to film anything with Arnold but he'd still technically be there and we'd still get references to the old movies.
This would "trigger" a lot of people. Because it would be something for the "old" fans and would ruin the entire movie. And also be a disservice to the Predator evolution.
They'd live. It's just a movie. And one about aliens from outer space for goodness sakes. It isn't exactly The Good Shepherd or Dunkirk.
The beserkers from Predators, this new upgrade/hybrid predator, and any notion of working with humans are easily some of the biggest disservices that have been done to the predator franchise thus far.
I don't think 5 or 6 words heard playing in the background during an interrogation scene should be that big of a deal.
Quote from: Ultramorph on Jun 29, 2018, 06:02:57 PM
I think Busey will give a good info dump to Munn, that secene will probably be where we get references to older movies.
Yeah I'm thinking that's gonna happen as well
What if the Predator is just about to kill someone and Key's jumps in front with Robot legs and shouts "I'm back"
Happened to Darth Maul.
And then he get's cut in half and says "Ohhhh nnnnooo... Not again!"
I just figured when Olivia is looking at the predator masks behind glass, the camera will keep panning to the left until you see Gary's head sitting there like one of the masks. That's when jr. will say, "and this is dad". Gary's eyes pop open, and he floats out to meet them on a tiny little hovering space platter. Then he takes her on a tour of the whole place and shows off all the cool predator gadgets while constantly saying "remarkable weaponry".
Quote from: Huggs on Jun 30, 2018, 04:14:24 AM
I just figured when Olivia is looking at the predator masks behind glass, the camera will keep panning to the left until you see Gary's head sitting there like one of the masks. That's when jr. will say, "and this is dad". Gary's eyes pop open, and he floats out to meet them on a tiny little hovering space platter. Then he takes her on a tour of the whole place and shows off all the cool predator gadgets while constantly saying "remarkable weaponry".
Lol! Wtf?
Quote from: Huggs on Jun 30, 2018, 04:14:24 AM
I just figured when Olivia is looking at the predator masks behind glass, the camera will keep panning to the left until you see Gary's head sitting there like one of the masks. That's when jr. will say, "and this is dad". Gary's eyes pop open, and he floats out to meet them on a tiny little hovering space platter. Then he takes her on a tour of the whole place and shows off all the cool predator gadgets while constantly saying "remarkable weaponry".
And then he tries to sell Olivia an Amazon firestick?
Keyes voice over.
"The Super Predator, spliced with Lions, Tigers and Bears"
"OhMy! You, are the Chick."
Quote from: BigDaddyJohn on Jun 29, 2018, 09:27:35 PM
Quote from: frenchfries on Jun 29, 2018, 08:55:49 PM
quick spoilery question to those that have read the script...does the upgrade get defeated in a satisfying way? one thing that disappointed me about predators was how easily the "super predators" were defeated.
Since a lot of the final act has been reshot, we don't even know if it'll happen like it was initially planned butSpoiler
the final fight is a 3 vs 1 : the kid, his dad and the scientist woman. Each one of them do some damage to the upgrade, the kid activates a shield from the pred ship that cuts off one of his arms because he was leaning on the shell, the woman cuts off his "hair" which disorientates him, and the kid's dad uses the severed pred arm to shoot arrows from it, after having added an explosive device on it, which blows up the upgrade. After that, he finishes him off on the ground with a gunshot in the eye. All of this happen in the florida swamps.
ah i see, thanks for telling me.
Quote from: Huggs on Jun 30, 2018, 04:14:24 AM
I just figured when Olivia is looking at the predator masks behind glass, the camera will keep panning to the left until you see Gary's head sitting there like one of the masks. That's when jr. will say, "and this is dad". Gary's eyes pop open, and he floats out to meet them on a tiny little hovering space platter. Then he takes her on a tour of the whole place and shows off all the cool predator gadgets while constantly saying "remarkable weaponry".
Made me laugh
Kinda hoping the ending reshoots give us an awesome end fight between the Super Pred and the other Predator's.
Screw the weak humans saving the day, I want some awesome Pred vs Pred action and some redemption for normal Preds after the end fight in Predators. Also it would be a nice change to have a Predator survive for once.
Quote from: Jigsaw85 on Jun 29, 2018, 03:42:38 AM
It would be cool if at the end of the film, a ship crashes in front of the characters. the doors open and out walks Royce and Isabelle.
I don't know if they should contineu the movies or keep them separate.
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Quote from: Jigsaw85 on Jun 29, 2018, 03:42:38 AM
It would be cool if at the end of the film, a ship crashes in front of the characters. the doors open and out walks Royce and Isabelle.
I don't know if they should contineu the movies or keep them separate.
It might make a cool easter egg ending but I don't see that going anywhere for future movies.
Has anything been said about:
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Treager wearing a shoulder cannon in the latest trailer?
Not sold on that idea at all, TBH.
Quote from: funk_master_chunk on Jun 30, 2018, 10:09:47 PM
Has anything been said about:
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Treager wearing a shoulder cannon in the latest trailer?
Not sold on that idea at all, TBH.
I guess it ties into the Government Agency acquiring Alien weapons and wanting to use them, so kinda makes sense in this story I guess.
Also it could tie into the "friendly" Predator's working with the Agency, maybe they showed the humans how they work?
Nah. It's a thing in the movie. Lot's of characters use their tech.
I mean, it's not out of sorts for the Predator series. Predator 2 has Harrigan use the disc and (clumsily) the spear.
Noland was using Predator tech.
Sorry but even after the full trailer Im still not feeling it. All I get from the trailer is action action action. Predator really CAN be more than that. The first movies story was simple but with terrific tension , mystique and feel. The second one, although a bit cheesy in places was a cool detective/cop story. But ever since then its all just about action action action. I hope Im wrong but not feeling it as of yet
Quote from: OpenMaw on Jul 01, 2018, 01:17:27 AM
I mean, it's not out of sorts for the Predator series. Predator 2 has Harrigan use the disc and (clumsily) the spear.
Noland was using Predator tech.
Also, the human-uses-predator-tech element can be found in both AvPs.
Additionally, the plasmacaster Traeger has is a little bit modified I think...check those green led lights on it. Maybe that is its powersource.
Quote from: Yautja_Warrior on Jun 30, 2018, 08:10:53 PM
Kinda hoping the ending reshoots give us an awesome end fight between the Super Pred and the other Predator's.
Screw the weak humans saving the day, I want some awesome Pred vs Pred action and some redemption for normal Preds after the end fight in Predators. Also it would be a nice change to have a Predator survive for once.
This is what I'm hoping for. After Predators, I cannot take a bigger badder Predator killing the classic one, I'm tired of that shit.
But even now, with this Brolly Predator, I'll take the Super Predator subspecies anyday. Still though, my hope is that the Fugitive Predator wins, with or without aid from the human characters.
However...seeing as though there is no footage of the Fugitive Predator past the school battle, I think I have my answer... :(
Quote from: The Shuriken on Jul 01, 2018, 01:52:20 PM
Quote from: Yautja_Warrior on Jun 30, 2018, 08:10:53 PM
Kinda hoping the ending reshoots give us an awesome end fight between the Super Pred and the other Predator's.
Screw the weak humans saving the day, I want some awesome Pred vs Pred action and some redemption for normal Preds after the end fight in Predators. Also it would be a nice change to have a Predator survive for once.
This is what I'm hoping for. After Predators, I cannot take a bigger badder Predator killing the classic one, I'm tired of that shit.
But even now, with this Brolly Predator, I'll take the Super Predator subspecies anyday. Still though, my hope is that the Fugitive Predator wins, with or without aid from the human characters.
However...seeing as though there is no footage of the Fugitive Predator past the school battle, I think I have my answer... :(
Hard to say what happen or don't happen after the school scenes based on the trailers honestly ;)
I doubt they changed that aspect. At all.
Coke Zero has to kill Coke Classic to make Coke Zero look better. Hollywood Screenwriting 101.
Quote from: OpenMaw on Jul 01, 2018, 03:24:25 PM
I doubt they changed that aspect. At all.
Coke Zero has to kill Coke Classic to make Coke Zero look better. Hollywood Screenwriting 101.
What about diet coke ? ;D
Diet Coke is the AVP Preds.
Quote from: OpenMaw on Jul 01, 2018, 03:29:44 PM
Diet Coke is the AVP Preds.
AvP screamed mountain dew and gatorade...
Chad is Red Bull.
Quote from: skull-splitter on Jul 01, 2018, 07:54:38 PM
Quote from: OpenMaw on Jul 01, 2018, 04:28:42 PM
Chad is Red Bull.
Far too high grade...
I believe he wasn't rating them only regarding their skills, but regarding what they seems to represent figuratively ;D
I know, but as a brand it's not what I associate it with. Perhaps because in the Netherlands is consideres something youngsters drink while hanging on the street corners. Not the steroid iron pumping idiots.
Quote from: skull-splitter on Jul 01, 2018, 08:04:33 PM
I know, but as a brand it's not what I associate it with. Perhaps because in the Netherlands is consideres something youngsters drink while hanging on the street corners. Not the steroid iron pumping idiots.
A protein shake may be more fitting then ? ;)
Quote from: skull-splitter on Jul 01, 2018, 08:04:33 PM
I know, but as a brand it's not what I associate it with. Perhaps because in the Netherlands is consideres something youngsters drink while hanging on the street corners. Not the steroid iron pumping idiots.
Yeah, but if I said "Muscle Milk" it doesn't have the same... Bad-oosh... Ya know? Red Bull gives ya wings! It's guaranteed to jack you up and make you haul ass. Right? RIIIIGHT?
C'mahn. Don't make me break this all down and over think it... C'mahnnn...
Quote from: BigDaddyJohn on Jul 01, 2018, 07:58:29 PM
I believe he wasn't rating them only regarding their skills, but regarding what they seems to represent figuratively ;D
Super Predators are trying to be Red Bull, but ultimately they are Vanilla Coke.
WHO THOUGHT THAT WAS A GOOD IDEA?
Quote from: OpenMaw on Jul 01, 2018, 08:09:49 PM
Super Predators are trying to be Red Bull, but ultimately they are Vanilla Coke.
Exactly :laugh:
Vanilla Coke ain't bad, though.
Quote from: BigDaddyJohn on Jul 01, 2018, 08:07:21 PM
Quote from: skull-splitter on Jul 01, 2018, 08:04:33 PM
I know, but as a brand it's not what I associate it with. Perhaps because in the Netherlands is consideres something youngsters drink while hanging on the street corners. Not the steroid iron pumping idiots.
A protein shake may be more fitting then ? ;)
Crowtein!
Quote from: OpenMaw on Jul 01, 2018, 03:24:25 PM
I doubt they changed that aspect. At all.
Coke Zero has to kill Coke Classic to make Coke Zero look better. Hollywood Screenwriting 101.
I guess the whole "you can't beat a classic" idea is dead and buried.
Quote from: The Shuriken on Jul 02, 2018, 12:14:31 AM
Quote from: OpenMaw on Jul 01, 2018, 03:24:25 PM
I doubt they changed that aspect. At all.
Coke Zero has to kill Coke Classic to make Coke Zero look better. Hollywood Screenwriting 101.
I guess the whole "you can't beat a classic" idea is dead and buried.
That would seem to be the general direction we're heading. And not just this franchise, unfortunately.
Quote from: The Shuriken on Jul 02, 2018, 12:14:31 AM
I guess the whole "you can't beat a classic" idea is dead and buried.
More or less what they were aiming for with Alien Resurrection, and Jurassic Park 3, and so on and so forth.
'This is that thing you like, only it's biggererer and baddererer."
I guess one can dream that that aspect of the script changed even if it is highly unlikely.
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Even though this probably isn't much of a spoiler for anyone, especially after the poster: I don't mind the concept of super predators but I'm still hoping they take a page out of Jurassic World and have one of the classics- preferably the captured- prevail at the end and kill the SOB. Or, at the very least, maybe they'll all put up a decent fight before their likely demise.
Narratively, it wouldn't work to change that.
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The protagonists, humans, have to save the day.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=ko5FQfRV6RU
Yea it would be bad writing if the human characters don't beat the super predator and that is was another predator that did the work in the end. Also, I totally thought that thing on treager's shoulder was on camera
Quote from: frenchfries on Jul 02, 2018, 05:44:18 AM
Also, I totally thought that thing on treager's shoulder was on camera
Me too. I can hear that conversation now.
"You've had 20 years to reverse engineer something useful from their technology, and all you've got to show for it...is a go-pro mount?"
OMG I was at Sky City Cinemas in Auckland New Zealand last night, and i spotted two rolled up gigantic at least two storey tall posters that will be ghoing up..I was able to take a peek at them both one was moyyled green tones and the other had ALL RED this SAME color here...I am HOPING its this poster!! Stay tuned I WILL be checking back next sunday, I WILL be taking photos...fingers crossed it is this poster..I will freak out!!!!
and I mean these posters are MASSIVE.....
Quote from: PredBabe on Jul 02, 2018, 03:50:17 AM
I guess one can dream that that aspect of the script changed even if it is highly unlikely.
Spoiler
Even though this probably isn't much of a spoiler for anyone, especially after the poster: I don't mind the concept of super predators but I'm still hoping they take a page out of Jurassic World and have one of the classics- preferably the captured- prevail at the end and kill the SOB. Or, at the very least, maybe they'll all put up a decent fight before their likely demise.
That's my main gripe with Captured in the script
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he is wrecked by upgrade pretty quickly and soooo easily, i would've loved him to put up more of a fight, but he didn't had time to do anything pretty much. What a shame. He didn't show fear and didn't back up though fortunately (i don't think we want a pred pissing his pants in fear lol) but didn't put a decent fight in the end. I hope it was changed a bit on the set, there's still hope.
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I think Captured getting wrecked early on serves to illustrate just how monstrous "Chad" is.
In the original draft, Captured was torn in 2 inside about 5 seconds of them meeting, IIRC.
I think this is something they'll run with as they're pushing the GM aspect in a big way now (latest trailer and poster etc.). So I think it'll go like so:
Captured shows up, wrecks everyone. Is eatablished as a mean bastard. Heroes struggle to take him down. Upgrade shows up and wrecks him in one go without so much as batting an eyelid.
Narrative is re-structured so that the big bad was just puny in comparison to Chad.
Tension and "oh shit!" factors are ramped up.
That's in theory, at least. Whether it works in practice is yet to be seen.
Quote from: BigDaddyJohn on Jul 02, 2018, 12:27:09 PM
Quote from: PredBabe on Jul 02, 2018, 03:50:17 AM
I guess one can dream that that aspect of the script changed even if it is highly unlikely.
Spoiler
Even though this probably isn't much of a spoiler for anyone, especially after the poster: I don't mind the concept of super predators but I'm still hoping they take a page out of Jurassic World and have one of the classics- preferably the captured- prevail at the end and kill the SOB. Or, at the very least, maybe they'll all put up a decent fight before their likely demise.
That's my main gripe with Captured in the script Spoiler
he is wrecked by upgrade pretty quickly and soooo easily, i would've loved him to put up more of a fight, but he didn't had time to do anything pretty much. What a shame. He didn't show fear and didn't back up though fortunately (i don't think we want a pred pissing his pants in fear lol) but didn't put a decent fight in the end. I hope it was changed a bit on the set, there's still hope.
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I was hoping they'd change that part of the script too and have Captured stick around longer. He had enough of a buildup to make it seem like he had a good chance of actually surviving. Only to fall to the hands of the Chad, in such a quick way :-\ Of all the Predators ever introduced, he seemed like the one to make it to the end...
Quote from: Wysps on Jul 02, 2018, 03:20:03 PM
Quote from: BigDaddyJohn on Jul 02, 2018, 12:27:09 PM
Quote from: PredBabe on Jul 02, 2018, 03:50:17 AM
I guess one can dream that that aspect of the script changed even if it is highly unlikely.
Spoiler
Even though this probably isn't much of a spoiler for anyone, especially after the poster: I don't mind the concept of super predators but I'm still hoping they take a page out of Jurassic World and have one of the classics- preferably the captured- prevail at the end and kill the SOB. Or, at the very least, maybe they'll all put up a decent fight before their likely demise.
That's my main gripe with Captured in the script Spoiler
he is wrecked by upgrade pretty quickly and soooo easily, i would've loved him to put up more of a fight, but he didn't had time to do anything pretty much. What a shame. He didn't show fear and didn't back up though fortunately (i don't think we want a pred pissing his pants in fear lol) but didn't put a decent fight in the end. I hope it was changed a bit on the set, there's still hope.
Spoiler
I was hoping they'd change that part of the script too and have Captured stick around longer. He had enough of a buildup to make it seem like he had a good chance of actually surviving. Only to fall to the hands of the Chad, in such a quick way :-\ Of all the Predators ever introduced, he seemed like the one to make it to the end...
I agree
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he is really badass during his time of presence, and should put up just a bit more of a fight, even if he has to die brutally by the hands of his 10 feet tall buddy.
Quote from: OpenMaw on Jul 02, 2018, 02:20:21 AM
Quote from: The Shuriken on Jul 02, 2018, 12:14:31 AM
I guess the whole "you can't beat a classic" idea is dead and buried.
More or less what they were aiming for with Alien Resurrection, and Jurassic Park 3, and so on and so forth.
'This is that thing you like, only it's biggererer and baddererer."
Cue my reaction every time:
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For god sake, somebody has to make a new Predator or Alien movie a bonafide hit. There's every chance that man is Shane Black. Calling it now, HIT!
Quote from: Quinn McKenna on Jul 02, 2018, 07:36:35 PM
For god sake, somebody has to make a new Predator or Alien movie a bonafide hit. There's every chance that man is Shane Black. Calling it now, HIT!
Calling it now, double to left field. (Shane bats switch)
Sadly, Black's films apart from Iron Man 3 have bombed. Which is a shame, as Kiss Kiss and Nice Guys are great.
I don't see this bombing, unless it's god awful. It won't do Iron Man 3 numbers but September is a good month for this to release. Not much competition at all, and if the reviews are any good it will definitely help. I can't imagine the budget on this being over 70-80 million either. It'll probably have to make over 200 million to be considered a success. (going off of my assumed budget, I could be wrong and they could've blown some money on this thing).
If the marketing amps up in Late August/Early September and the reviews are solid this thing could open up to about 40-50 million domestically. I hope so anyways. I want to see more Predator flicks.
If they do decent marketing this movie should open north of 100 million. One would think.
Put me down for 24m on the low side and 58m for the high on opening. I don't see it passing 258m to 300m total. Yeah, I'm lowballin', but hey, somebody's gotta do it.
Oh this will clear 50M even if it is bad and at the moment it actually looks great.
Quote from: whiterabbit on Jul 02, 2018, 10:10:28 PM
Oh this will clear 50M even if it is bad and at the moment it actually looks great.
I'm operating under 10th man protocols here. ;)
I can't see it getting anywhere near 100 million but I'd love to be proven wrong on that.
To get that kind of initial buzz you need a trailer that actually sells the movie with that sense of scope and energy.
The Predator trailers are frankly... Low juice. Low energy. Here's a shot, there's a shot. No real sense of a direction or a focus.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h3ptPtxWJRs
Theme, focus, rising, pay off. Regardless of the movie behind them, in their times these trailers got the audiences excited. Asses in seats.
The Predator trailers are meandering clip shows that don't have a central drive or a sense of building/rising tension/energy. Here's this character, here's this explosion, Predator shot, character shot, predator shot.
Just look at that Prometheus trailer. How many people white knuckled their office chairs watching that and going "Holy shit the old man has pulled it off!"
The Mummy, taking a nod from it's old universal days has the trailer narrator
invite you. Why? Because this is going to be a film you don't want to miss.
300? "This is going to be one wild night." That's such a meta line, speaking to the audience, again. You don't want to miss this. It's going to be
an experience.One last one, for the road, again from the sister franchise:
Again, it's a cohesive rising action. Starting ominous, shifting to marshal atmosphere, rising tension, the choral cries, the motion tracker fading in, over lapping dialogue, rising still, motion tracker reaches pitch, overlapping dialogue turns to shouting, BAM, explosion still rising, until the reveal of the Queen Alien. ALIENS - This Time It's War. The tagline that's going to stick with you. It's all seamless end to end and it does not let the under current tension die from the start of the trailer to the end.
Though, I must admit a lot of my issues with The Predator trailer(s) are also issues I have with the way modern trailers are "generated."
Doesn't matter what it does, we will be here in 5 years talking about the next one.
Quote from: Highland on Jul 03, 2018, 01:57:33 AM
Doesn't matter what it does, we will be here in 5 years talking about the next one.
It's gonna take that long eh? I wouldn't doubt it.
September 14th is perfect. Gotta hunch this things gonna have legs all the way through October $$$
Quote from: KiramidHead on Jul 02, 2018, 07:47:25 PM
Sadly, Black's films apart from Iron Man 3 have bombed. Which is a shame, as Kiss Kiss and Nice Guys are great.
Finally decided to watch the nice guys a few days ago and man was I blown away. It really gives me faith for this flick. At this point, I just want a good movie even if it ends up being too comedic. Btw anyone know where I could read this script that everyone keeps talking about?
Nice Guys is brilliant, IMO.
The "You guys wanna see my dick?" line had me in actual tears. I cried laughing for a good 5 minutes at that.
KKBB is also brilliant. Val Kilmer, especially, is outstanding in it.
There's also a documentary coming out called Wolfman's got nards about the cult following of Monster Squad.
Black certainly has form for good-to-great cult movies; so if this turns out to be one of those, I'd be thrilled.
The Predator looks dated.
I was wondering how Captured's right arm can be seen all humid/moisty in the shot when facing up with upgrade, but his face isn't ? I know it's too early to be sure, but if it happened to be the case, wouldn't it be weird ?
Arnold. Is. The. Captured. Pred.
Spoiler tag it.
First
Called it.
I'd be surprised if this movie even breaks even. There's no great hunger for monster movies, they may even be a dead genera like noir, and these trailers have inspired nothing but apathy from the ga. Like Openmaw said, they're meandering and low energy. They do nothing to morivate the average Joe already skeptical to another Predator movie to see it.
Nah, I think the predators are getting bored of hunting simple lifeforms and have decided to mix one of there own's dna with Arnold's dna, thus the upgraded predator is born. Of course it's totally out of control, a cigar smoking one line chomping bad ass that just wants to lift meat. No rhythm, no reason, it just desires to lift heavy things. The predators are here to steal the sacred vhs tapes in hopes of finding a way to stop the ultimate predator. Least do they know, he's already hot on their tails. Probably steps out of a chopper and says, I'm BACK bitches.
That would make a great comic book idea actually. "Predator : Ultimate Prey" A group of Predators decide that the most dangerous game isn't enough and so they "create" a new Predator combining traits from several different prey species. The acid blood of the alien, the strength and cunning of their own kind, and the inventive streak of man.
Then it kills them all.
Lawl, I can see it now: The Upgrade's faction kidnapped Dutch to harvest his DNA. Now his brother and NYPD detective Schaeff, played by Dolph Lundgren, is on their trail and out for blood. 8)
Quote from: KiramidHead on Jul 04, 2018, 02:28:47 AM
Lawl, I can see it now: The Upgrade's faction kidnapped Dutch to harvest his DNA. Now his brother and NYPD detective Schaeff, played by Dolph Lundgren, is on their trail and out for blood. 8)
I think his brother was actually in the Predator comic series, I think I have that in the house.
Quote from: Highland on Jul 04, 2018, 02:45:05 AM
Quote from: KiramidHead on Jul 04, 2018, 02:28:47 AM
Lawl, I can see it now: The Upgrade's faction kidnapped Dutch to harvest his DNA. Now his brother and NYPD detective Schaeff, played by Dolph Lundgren, is on their trail and out for blood. 8)
I think his brother was actually in the Predator comic series, I think I have that in the house.
That's where I got it from. ;D
Quote from: OpenMaw on Jul 04, 2018, 02:20:16 AM
That would make a great comic book idea actually. "Predator : Ultimate Prey" A group of Predators decide that the most dangerous game isn't enough and so they "create" a new Predator combining traits from several different prey species. The acid blood of the alien, the strength and cunning of their own kind, and the inventive streak of man.
Then it kills them all.
Lol. Too late
Re-watched the trailer many times, plus many internet pictures, and i realized it is hard to tell from where comes the three laser dots on this new mask. Probably from the upper right angle, there seems to be a little spot for it.
Probably like the millions of laser targeting lights on Adrian Brody in the Predators trailer.
Quote from: Vermillion on Jul 04, 2018, 02:30:40 PM
Probably like the millions of laser targeting lights on Adrian Brody in the Predators trailer.
I'm
still bitter about that
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Quote from: Vermillion on Jul 04, 2018, 02:30:40 PM
Probably like the millions of laser targeting lights on Adrian Brody in the Predators trailer.
I'm still bitter about that
Same lol.
Quote from: BigDaddyJohn on Jul 04, 2018, 02:28:28 PM
Re-watched the trailer many times, plus many internet pictures, and i realized it is hard to tell from where comes the three laser dots on this new mask. Probably from the upper right angle, there seems to be a little spot for it.
How do you see, dude? :)
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Yep that's it ! Thanks for the photo
Are we sure that statue is actually 100% reliable though?
For this kind of stuff? Yeah...
Here's my thoughts on the full trailer...
The "Big Predator" reminds me of "Super Shredder" from TMNT 2
Except it won't kill itself on accident.
Quote from: Space_Dementia on Jul 15, 2018, 02:23:30 AM
Here's my thoughts on the full trailer...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_9AN4W32W-Y
You kept referring to Sterling K Brown's character as Nebraska, he's not Nebraska he is Will Traeger, Trevante Rhodes plays Nebraska Williams, the group is referred to as the Loonies....thanks for the video though
Quote from: Space_Dementia on Jul 15, 2018, 02:23:30 AM
Here's my thoughts on the full trailer...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_9AN4W32W-Y
I also thought you mentioned that as you were filming this video that you had just seen the Final Trailer that was just released? I know there's a Fan Made modified one that is going around
The showed the red band trailer before Equalizer 2.
Quote from: ace3g on Jul 21, 2018, 09:00:09 PM
The showed the red band trailer before Equalizer 2.
Sweet! Going to see it soon
https://www.avpgalaxy.net/2018/07/25/the-predator-full-trailer-discussion-avpgalaxy-podcast-69/
Our podcast on the trailer is now online. :)
Hicks did you hear any rumors about 3 possible predators? I was debating with some people on Russian sources that it's some kind of information about 3 predators in the movie...I do see a lot of misinformation about this movie lately. :-
Not that has been mentioned to me from the tests so far.
Quote from: azamultic on Jul 25, 2018, 10:28:25 AM
Hicks did you hear any rumors about 3 possible predators? I was debating with some people on Russian sources that it's some kind of information about 3 predators in the movie...I do see a lot of misinformation about this movie lately. :-
It's a strange situation I think.
If there is really a 3rd Predator in the movie, most likely they keep it in secret. Which means that maybe the test screening viewers were told not to leak any information about it.
By the way, I think it's just rumor...
There are 2 and that's all.
Quote from: Corporal Hicks on Jul 25, 2018, 10:37:30 AM
Not that has been mentioned to me from the tests so far.
I see.
Quote from: Xerxész on Jul 25, 2018, 10:37:51 AM
Quote from: azamultic on Jul 25, 2018, 10:28:25 AM
Hicks did you hear any rumors about 3 possible predators? I was debating with some people on Russian sources that it's some kind of information about 3 predators in the movie...I do see a lot of misinformation about this movie lately. :-
It's a strange situation I think.
If there is really a 3rd Predator in the movie, most likely they keep it in secret. Which means that maybe the test screening viewers were told not to leak any information about it.
By the way, I think it's just rumor...
There are 2 and that's all.
I was saying the same thing that it's only two preds officially in the movie, and they were telling me that the last updates says that it's 3 predators, and they couldn't give me the link -_-
Quote from: azamultic on Jul 25, 2018, 10:42:18 AM
I was saying the same thing that it's only two preds officially in the movie, and they were telling me that the last updates says that it's 3 predators, and they couldn't give me the link -_-
Even if you had a link, that's not a proof. How many fake articles are there...
But we know Russians just...tough guys, they could know something... ;D :) They SHOULD be right.
I like the idea of a 3rd Predator and would be curious about his intentions/purpose in the movie.
Anyway, were those guys from here (AvPGalaxy) or where did you argue them?
Quote from: Xerxész on Jul 25, 2018, 10:48:59 AM
Quote from: azamultic on Jul 25, 2018, 10:42:18 AM
I was saying the same thing that it's only two preds officially in the movie, and they were telling me that the last updates says that it's 3 predators, and they couldn't give me the link -_-
Even if you had a link, that's not a proof. How many fake articles are there...
But we know Russians just...tough guys, they could know something... ;D :) They SHOULD be right.
I like the idea of a 3rd Predator and would be curious about his intentions/purpose in the movie.
Anyway, were those guys from here (AvPGalaxy) or where did you argue them?
Oh man I would love to see the third predator in this movie, knowing the situation with the captured one :)
Oh, no, I am from Kazakhstan so we using the same social web site like Facebook, called vkontakte. And I am in the Predator fan group, but the thing is a lot of fans don't know English very well, so they would believe some Russian articles, which sometimes not official or true. It's still a lot of people there who also visiting this page, I believe, but also a lot of people who would believe almost any rumors.
Nazdrave cuka blyad
;D
Quote from: azamultic on Jul 25, 2018, 11:06:19 AMOh man I would love to see the third predator in this movie, knowing the situation with the captured one :)
Oh, no, I am from Kazakhstan so we using the same social web site like Facebook, called vkontakte. And I am in the Predator fan group, but the thing is a lot of fans don't know English very well, so they would believe some Russian articles, which sometimes not official or true. It's still a lot of people there who also visiting this page, I believe, but also a lot of people who would believe almost any rumors.
Я бы на самом деле не стал доверять сообществам Вконтакте по Хищнику (я даже догадываюсь что это за группа). Та ещё кладезь истинной информации. ;)
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This is not true - only fun speculation ;)
Quote from: Tetsujin on Jul 25, 2018, 03:16:37 PM
This is not true - only fun speculation ;)
You should have said the opposite. :)
Quote from: Tetsujin on Jul 25, 2018, 03:16:37 PM
Quote from: azamultic on Jul 25, 2018, 11:06:19 AMOh man I would love to see the third predator in this movie, knowing the situation with the captured one :)
Oh, no, I am from Kazakhstan so we using the same social web site like Facebook, called vkontakte. And I am in the Predator fan group, but the thing is a lot of fans don't know English very well, so they would believe some Russian articles, which sometimes not official or true. It's still a lot of people there who also visiting this page, I believe, but also a lot of people who would believe almost any rumors.
Я бы на самом деле не стал доверять сообществам Вконтакте по Хищнику (я даже догадываюсь что это за группа). Та ещё кладезь истинной информации. ;)
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This is not true - only fun speculation ;)
О Здраствуйте! ;) Да думал что кто ни будь обязательно отзовется ;D Да там конечно много инфы хорошой найти можно, но и на дезинформацию спокойно наткнуться можно, хорошо что некоторые группы опираются на этот сайт.
Nice to meet you Sir ;)
Quote from: Xerxész on Jul 25, 2018, 03:22:45 PMYou should have said the opposite. :)
Ok,
I fix -
After reshots:Spoiler
Russian bear kills the Upgrade...
The third predator is a bear.
;)
But seriously. I really hope that the trailers do not reveal everything. I would like to receive surprises on the film in the cinema. 8)
Quote from: azamultic on Jul 25, 2018, 03:51:02 PMХорошо что некоторые группы опираются на этот сайт.
Да, полезное тоже встречается, но всё же
AvPGalaxy the best 8)
Quote from: azamultic on Jul 25, 2018, 03:51:02 PMNice to meet you Sir ;)
Me too! :)
Quote from: Tetsujin on Jul 25, 2018, 05:12:44 PM
Quote from: Xerxész on Jul 25, 2018, 03:22:45 PMYou should have said the opposite. :)
Ok,
I fix - After reshots:
Spoiler
Russian bear kills the Upgrade...
The third predator is a bear.
;)
Spoiler
And Bear going to have mandibles and dreads, it's replacement for the Spider mutants ;D
Quote from: Tetsujin on Jul 25, 2018, 05:12:44 PM
Quote from: azamultic on Jul 25, 2018, 03:51:02 PMХорошо что некоторые группы опираются на этот сайт.
Да, полезное тоже встречается, но всё же AvPGalaxy the best 8)
No doubt about that ;)
Great podcast as usual, chaps. I don't suppose we can get a discussion on the excellent The Cold Forge once those lazy gits have got around to reading it? ;)
Still blown away by doubts about The Predator. It's a Black and Dekker joint. It's one of the safest bets in quality around. If any aspiring writers are out there, Black's interview on The Writer's Room podcast is a masterclass in writing.
I'd be real interested in you guys reviewing the original script versus the final film once it releases. That'd be a good listen.
I'd love to get in on that.
Too many folks don't wanna give this film a chance with the lack of quality from the AVP films, a decent Predators and a lack of Dutch coming back
Quote from: OpenMaw on Jul 25, 2018, 08:22:06 PM
I'd love to get in on that.
Me too, patch me in the meeting...[emoji6]
I LOVED the AvP teaser when it came out. But i really liked the Rock trailer for the film as well. So much so i used it in the little film i made many years ago
Quote from: MudButt on Jul 25, 2018, 08:16:00 PMI'd be real interested in you guys reviewing the original script versus the final film once it releases. That'd be a good listen.
I'd not even thought of that. I've totally avoided the leaked script but yeah, it'll be interesting seeing what changed.
Quote from: HuDaFuK on Jul 25, 2018, 09:37:00 PM
Quote from: MudButt on Jul 25, 2018, 08:16:00 PMI'd be real interested in you guys reviewing the original script versus the final film once it releases. That'd be a good listen.
I'd not even thought of that. I've totally avoided the leaked script but yeah, it'll be interesting seeing what changed.
I'm a recent listener of the podcast and I was hoping to find an episode where they reviewed that leaked draft but was saddened to see it didn't exist. I know it was a bit dangerous to do it back then because it wasn't a fully leaked script and it was passed around in secret. Since the movie is so close to release though I figure that would be a good thing to do, perhaps after you guys review it of course.
It's generally better to do that sort of thing after the movie comes out. Fox sued the woman who leaked the Deadpool script back n 2010 for millions.
I figured as much. Hopefully they do something like that though. I mean I guess I would know the difference after I see the movie but it''s always better listening to people talk about things you're interested in. Especially since Hicks has a bunch of knowledge on the test screenings that were held the last year.
Quote from: Dean Learner on Jul 25, 2018, 08:01:12 PM
Great podcast as usual, chaps. I don't suppose we can get a discussion on the excellent The Cold Forge once those lazy gits have got around to reading it? ;)
Thanks, Dean, glad you enjoyed it. I've been wanting to record one on The Cold Forge for ages! Xenomorphine never reads the novels so I've been waiting for Shevvie, my buddy from the real world who comes on the poddy occasionally, to read it but due to his job and family, he only ever gets to "read" when the audiobooks come out. So he's been listening to this one this week! I've started re-reading it too. When RidgeTop reads it, I'll get one sorted!
QuoteStill blown away by doubts about The Predator. It's a Black and Dekker joint. It's one of the safest bets in quality around. If any aspiring writers are out there, Black's interview on The Writer's Room podcast is a masterclass in writing.
I can understand the doubt but I also have faith in him to pull this off!
Quote from: MudButt on Jul 25, 2018, 08:16:00 PM
I'd be real interested in you guys reviewing the original script versus the final film once it releases. That'd be a good listen.
Once the film is out, we'll most likely do one.
@Corporal_Hicks just finished listening to the latest AVPG pod about the trailer discussion. In the pod, Ridgetop I think mentions at the end some dude who does commission 3D Printed model work. Did you guys post a link to his contact details? Thanks.
Yeah, it was in the post about the podcast. :)
https://www.facebook.com/madmansshipyard/
Quote from: Corporal Hicks on Aug 01, 2018, 08:30:51 AM
Yeah, it was in the post about the podcast. :)
https://www.facebook.com/madmansshipyard/
Hahaha. I'm blind as a bat.
Thanks mate. Great podcast BTW. Keep em coming.
No worries. And thanks, much appreciated. :)
I hope we get this:
- The Final Trailer
- TV Spots
- Character posters
Oh we got about 10000000 TV Spots to go.
Quote from: OpenMaw on Aug 01, 2018, 05:23:09 PM
Oh we got about 10000000 TV Spots to go.
Nah, Sony isn't putting this movie out.
Quote from: Tetsujin on Aug 01, 2018, 04:28:16 PM
I hope we get this:
- The Final Trailer
- TV Spots
- Character posters
What is this, movie marketing bingo?