Critical Acclaim You Don't Get

Started by BlueMarsalis79, May 19, 2025, 03:02:48 AM

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Coolertonic7

Coolertonic7

#105
Personally I think that there are more bad Star Wars movies than there are good ones.

And I'm talking about actually good movies, not mid ones!

Local Trouble

My TrueFan™ card was revoked decades ago.

Xenotaris

Xenotaris

#107
Though I lost my fanboy card for Star Wars in 2015, I will still defend old Star Wars

BlueMarsalis79

Arbitrary line to draw, garbage Star Wars and superb Star Wars came both before and after that date.

KOTOR and Andor are equally special and both surpass the original films.

Also videogames that just amount to interactive films are a waste of the potential of the medium I absolutely agree.

As for player guilt? Spec Ops The Line just did it better, and first.


Xenotaris

Xenotaris

#109
How could someone surpass the original creator? Its no longer Star Wars without the original soul, then it should be its own sci-fi series at this point

Oasis Nadrama

Oasis Nadrama

#110
Quote from: Xenotaris on May 24, 2025, 01:49:32 AM
Quote from: [cancerblack] on May 24, 2025, 01:47:44 AMSorry, but morally black and white settings, and space wizards, bore me.
Then its not STAR WARS, it just generic sci-fi. If the franchise looses what defined it originally then it looses its identity!

Star Wars does not have to remain this manichean/dualist.

If you want to see how the setting can be developed in more powerful yet nuanced ways, the Mageworlds book series is great.



Doyle's and MacDonald's novels are, very transparently, an alternate sequel to the original Star Wars movies. The serial numbers are barely filed off. To give you an idea, it starts with the assassination of an aging senator who married a space bandit after amazing empire-shattering adventures. Transparently, these two background characters are Leia Organa and Han Solo.

But it develops the space geopolitics, history of the world and thermodynamics/metaphysics in an unique and powerful way, steering away from the original franchise to propose their own take.

If you like Star Wars and want to see it explored differently, or dislike Star Wars but still think the starting ideas and atmosphere are promising, or if you just like good pulp space opera, these novels are for you.



Quote from: Xenotaris on May 24, 2025, 04:34:41 PMHow could someone surpass the original creator? Its no longer Star Wars without the original soul, then it should be its own sci-fi series at this point

There are numerous legacy franchises that THRIVE separated from their original creators.



Quote from: BlueMarsalis79 on May 24, 2025, 02:28:28 PMAlso videogames that just amount to interactive films are a waste of the potential of the medium I absolutely agree.

As for player guilt? Spec Ops The Line just did it better, and first.

Glad we understand each other about interactive films. I really don't dig the Kojima/Cage school of video game - although at least these two, unlike the aforementioned Zionist, TRY to propose an intense video game experience at the same time as they give us their movie-cut-in-parts.

And yeah, Spec Ops: The Line is very, very good.

Xenotaris

Xenotaris

#111
I stand by what I said

Coolertonic7


Xenotaris

Xenotaris

#113
Quote from: Coolertonic7 on May 24, 2025, 05:52:34 PM
Quote from: Xenotaris on May 24, 2025, 05:45:28 PMI stand by what I said

So do I.
Well at least you are sticking to your guns. I admire that

Prez

Prez

#114
Quote from: BlueMarsalis79 on May 24, 2025, 02:28:28 PM... Andor are equally special and both surpass the original films.

As if...

Local Trouble

I'll give her ROTJ.

Coolertonic7

Quote from: Local Trouble on May 25, 2025, 12:56:57 AMI'll give her ROTJ.

Yeah, that one is mid.

BigDaddyJohn

The original trilogy is great. The rest not so much.

Prez

Prez

#118
Quote from: Local Trouble on May 25, 2025, 12:56:57 AMI'll give her ROTJ.

Hahaha. I expected this one from you  ;D  ;D  ;D

BlueMarsalis79

Your nostalgia's blinded you, Empire's the best of the original Trilogy and it's got one major flaw that persists into Jedi, that being Leia being totally sidelined and written without the willful force, pun intended, the original characterisation had. And the sexist shit. Andor comes out on top, period.

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