http://collider.com/prometheus-sequel-damon-lindelof/219084/ (http://collider.com/prometheus-sequel-damon-lindelof/219084/)
Let me be the first to say;
BULLSHIT!
He just wanted his 5 minutes in the sun and to walk away from the table while his still got his praise, I don't blame him that Lost ending must of been hard on him if he felt he put his heart into it, I don't blame personally I think he truly is a talented writer. I listened to his Commentary he had some good ideas that might have made the film more up the Aliens fans street.
...thanks Damon. :laugh:
Real reason: "Ebberboddy hates me..."
"So Ridley and I talked about what that other thing might be, and he was excited about doing it. But then I think what ended up happening was that the movie came out, and there was a reaction to the movie."
The truth will out.
no great loss, loved the movie but yeah not a real care if Damon dont want to hang on to it.
I wasn't particularly happy with the movie, but the viral stuff, from what I understand is Lindelof's contribution, was fantastic. I exchanged words with him at the London premiere, he seems a nice quirky guy.
As an Alien fan I hope some proper Alien stuff is in the sequel, penis headed Aliens and all. Prometheus missed that antagonist.
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Quote from: Cvalda on Dec 20, 2012, 05:18:30 PM
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;D ;D
Let's just hope Disney doesn't hire Lindelof to ruin a new Star Wars film.
Good to see ya' back here, Cvalda. You've been missed.
Quote from: ace3g on Dec 20, 2012, 04:57:29 AM
http://collider.com/prometheus-sequel-damon-lindelof/219084/ (http://collider.com/prometheus-sequel-damon-lindelof/219084/)
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After listening to the blu ray commentary I actual felt Lindelof added the best elements of Prometheus, such as the talk between David and Holloway. Wasn't Spaihts the one that the scientists act like scared morons? If anything I felt like Damon Lindelof shared too much of the blame. If he should be blamed for anything it should have been for not removing more of Spaihts's goofy ideas.
Either way i hope they get better writers for the sequel, and consider the problems that plagued the original.
I hope Spaiht isnt invited back. People complain about Lindelof script but the Spaiht one was beyond terrible. Dark Horse comics were better constructed then that piece of shit.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CBjKpBrCHas# (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CBjKpBrCHas#)
I Don't really care for Jon Spaiht draft as his had what every AVP movie would have had already : Facehuggers, eggs, blah blahh blah chestburster,type of shite I could have daydreamed on my lunch break . Literally would have been a really BAD Aliens Resurrection with a budget of 1 million dollars. Terrible. Nothing new or exciting. Then Damon came in and RIPPED IT TO SHREDS, and made a cool unique new Aliens with more. I dare you to not be excited for that. It did make more than 3 times what it cost.
"I'm sorry Jon, but I'm gonna borrow your....ooops! "
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Quote from: fiveways on Dec 20, 2012, 06:55:13 PM
I hope Spaiht isnt invited back. People complain about Lindelof script but the Spaiht one was beyond terrible. Dark Horse comics were better constructed then that piece of shit.
If Prometheus 2 goes forward, I would be very surprised if Spaiht's were to be involved. Of course, the studio execs in Hollywood never cease to amaze me with some of their decisions...so anything is possible. And that is nothing against Mr. Spaiht's as a person. I am sure he is a fine bloke. I just am not a fan of his writing.
Good news - but it also means that we can all get worked up over another writer or two. I hope they get a real talent (unproven or otherwise), rather than a 'name' writer.
Quote from: Valaquen on Dec 20, 2012, 07:25:55 PM
Good news - but it also means that we can all get worked up over another writer or two. I hope they get a real talent (unproven or otherwise), rather than a 'name' writer.
Roberto Orci and Alex Kurtzman ;D
thank god he would end up ruining this film too
I yet to read the scripts of both Lindelof or Spaihts. Which script was better? Anyway, regarding him not returning to the sequel I think it's a good thing because I want a see a fresh voice take a crack at it anyway.
Quote from: echobbase79 on Dec 20, 2012, 08:30:02 PM
I yet to read the scripts of both Lindelof or Spaihts. Which script was better?
Spaihts' had a better set up but turned into a jumbled mess that read more like an Alien fan-fiction.
Lindelof's draft was a step in the right direction and at least read like it's own thing, but was far from complete and perhaps shouldn't have abandoned Spaihts' set up entirely. It's also a bitch to read.
All in all, I would say Lindelof's is better but could have done with a few more drafts.
I highly doubt there will be a Prometheus 2 anyway.
Best news I've heard in a while ;D.
He seems to have a bit of a lip on.(fan boys and all that) ::)
just to be clear RIDLEY WAS THE ONE WHO ACCEPTED THE FRESHED UP SPAITH-SCRIPT FROM LINDELOF!!! So first of all blame on Ridley for all those many many mistakes that this movie has...(even though its a great movie and could be a lot more)
This is great news! Now if only we could get confirmation that somebody other than Ridley will direct...
Lindelof's explanation makes as much sense as this.
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The hell is he working on that he cant spent a couple months writing a script?
Quote from: DaddyYautja on Dec 20, 2012, 10:53:18 PM
Lindelof's explanation makes as much sense as this.
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The hell is he working on that he cant spent a couple months writing a script?
LOL! WTF! :-\
Quote from: DaddyYautja on Dec 20, 2012, 10:53:18 PM
Lindelof's explanation makes as much sense as this.
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The hell is he working on that he cant spent a couple months writing a script?
A couple of months = 24 does it?
Quote from: SM on Dec 20, 2012, 11:02:21 PM
A couple of months = 24 does it?
dude all a writer does is write a script then send it in and wait to see what they think.
:laugh:
Yeah... sure it is...
Quote from: SM on Dec 20, 2012, 11:14:19 PM
:laugh:
Yeah... sure it is...
It would be awesome if your reply actually put in a little bit of discussion.
Just get David Giler and Walter Hill to write it. :)
Quote from: DaddyYautja on Dec 20, 2012, 11:09:47 PM
dude all a writer does is write a script then send it in and wait to see what they think.
Tried writing a feature length script recently?
...and what is acting, anyway? You show up, say a few lines, and that's a wrap. Just as easy as writing the script for a Prometheus sequel.
Quote from: DaddyYautja on Dec 20, 2012, 11:09:47 PM
Quote from: SM on Dec 20, 2012, 11:02:21 PM
A couple of months = 24 does it?
dude all a writer does is write a script then send it in and wait to see what they think.
And how many difficult and laborious rewrites do you think they draft before reaching something close to a shootable script?
It's not as easy as quickly scribbling out a draft to hand in so you can spend the rest of production dancing in fields whilst waiting for the pay cheque to arrive. And from what I've heard and read it's these types of films with many different people in varying positions of power to appease, that can prove hardest for a working writer. Hell, it's difficult enough when you're writing for yourself.
Some writers also work on multiple projects at once. Didn't Cameron take on the Rambo: First Blood II job at the same time he got the job to write Aliens? So writing scripts is a process and hopefully each time you do a rewrite it gets better. Or not.
Stallone rewrote a lot of Rambo from memory.
QuoteIt would be awesome if your reply actually put in a little bit of discussion.
Why bother? You apparently know how it all works.
Not to mention conveniently ignoring Lindelof saying he can only focus on one thing at a time and Prometheus 2 would be a 2 year commitment.
Lindelof u can s**k my b*lls
Quote from: DaddyYautja on Dec 20, 2012, 11:09:47 PM
Quote from: SM on Dec 20, 2012, 11:02:21 PM
A couple of months = 24 does it?
dude all a writer does is write a script then send it in and wait to see what they think.
Which is of course, bullshit. Plenty of scripts get sent in that people never even get a response to. If you're lucky, and the script reader passes on your script as one that has to be read, then and only then will it ever even be read by whoever is in charge of the script reader. And if they like it, they might end up responding, because even a producer or whatever who looks at the script is in no way a guarantee that you will ever get a response back.
It's nowhere near as easy as you put it.
There's so much more I didn't add here, like trying to get an agent for one, or how f**king difficult it is to even get in at all in the film business with your first script. There's so god damn much that is blocking the writer from even reaching their goal.
The weak screenplay was the one thing that nearly all of the reviews, both positive and negative, commented on. Maybe Fox now sees Lindelof as a liability.
Lindelof's statement is classic Lindelof.
I.E. it's his Marketing/Political/Diplomatic abilities swinging strong.
It's all code for, the movie was shit, people hate me and I don't want to take it on again.
He can't say that though so he has to spin some yarn about it being a rewrite and a year of his life (which is true) but ultimately I think he wrote an inferior movie, I think he knows that, maybe the studio think that, majority of the fans think that.
All in all though I'd say the failings of this movie were down to studio interference pushing the writer and director in a certain direction.
Anyway that's how I see it.
Quote from: tmjhur on Dec 21, 2012, 12:49:30 PM
Lindelof's statement is classic Lindelof.
I.E. it's his Marketing/Political/Diplomatic abilities swinging strong.
It's all code for, the movie was shit, people hate me and I don't want to take it on again.
He can't say that though so he has to spin some yarn about it being a rewrite and a year of his life (which is true) but ultimately I think he wrote an inferior movie, I think he knows that, maybe the studio think that, majority of the fans think that.
All in all though I'd say the failings of this movie were down to studio interference pushing the writer and director in a certain direction.
Anyway that's how I see it.
Or here is a crazy idea, the movie wasn't shit, it's a commercial success, it has 74 % critic approval rate, and the studio is pleased about the movie, so much that they will make a sequel.
here is another crazy idea, maybe he doesn't give a f**k about what the loud minority does on the internet because of the above reasons. Maybe he is also busy with his new project 1952,writing and producing it. Maybe he is also busy with his new 3 year agreement with Warner Bros to develop new shows and making The Leftovers for HBO
But now that he left, i hope someone will stop mr. Scott and his editor for ever entering the editing room of the sequel. That would be nice
Quote from: tmjhur on Dec 21, 2012, 12:49:30 PM
Lindelof's statement is classic Lindelof.
I.E. it's his Marketing/Political/Diplomatic abilities swinging strong.
It's all code for, the movie was shit, people hate me and I don't want to take it on again.
He can't say that though so he has to spin some yarn about it being a rewrite and a year of his life (which is true) but ultimately I think he wrote an inferior movie, I think he knows that, maybe the studio think that, majority of the fans think that.
All in all though I'd say the failings of this movie were down to studio interference pushing the writer and director in a certain direction.
Anyway that's how I see it.
How could it be a terrible script? Ridley Scott went on to direct it either way. You don't see Ridley taking on shit scripts like INdiana Jones and the Crystal Skull into a movie. The majority of Fans loved Pormetheus and thought the ORIGINAL script was terrible. Then some dude fixed it to be a better script to be filmed.
I think its clear that the majority of Alien fans dislike other casual alien fans who happen to be exaggerating their opinions in their posts.
Good, bad, he is the guy named Lindelof. His name would be toxic for a sequel and he knows it. That's why he made his fan boy comment about a "reaction" to the movie.
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Or here is a crazy idea, the movie wasn't shit, it's a commercial success, it has 74 % critic approval rate, and the studio is pleased about the movie, so much that they will make a sequel.
here is another crazy idea, maybe he doesn't give a f**k about what the loud minority does on the internet because of the above reasons. Maybe he is also busy with his new project 1952,writing and producing it. Maybe he is also busy with his new 3 year agreement with Warner Bros to develop new shows and making The Leftovers for HBO
But now that he left, i hope someone will stop mr. Scott and his editor for ever entering the editing room of the sequel. That would be nice
You're Damon Lindelof right?
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How could it be a terrible script? Ridley Scott went on to direct it either way. You don't see Ridley taking on shit scripts like INdiana Jones and the Crystal Skull into a movie. The majority of Fans loved Pormetheus and thought the ORIGINAL script was terrible. Then some dude fixed it to be a better script to be filmed.
I think its clear that the majority of Alien fans dislike other casual alien fans who happen to be exaggerating their opinions in their posts.
Don't you remember the terrible exposition, CSI going inside the body moments, awful stereotypical characters and horrible pacing?
Yes BEST NEWS EVER....
;D
Quote from: Predaker on Dec 21, 2012, 02:58:05 PM
Good, bad, he is the guy named Lindelof. His name would be toxic for a sequel and he knows it. That's why he made his fan boy comment about a "reaction" to the movie.
And is hence why I made my comment about his pseudo politician diplomatic speech about not wanting to spend another year of his life writing the sequel.
He's a P.R man first, a writer second.
Quote from: GQSioux on Dec 20, 2012, 11:23:05 PM
Just get David Giler and Walter Hill to write it. :)
I need to add more profanity to my script before I pitch it. Thanks for reminding me!
;D
Thank God, now someone can clean up his mess and make sense of it all.
Quote from: SiL on Dec 20, 2012, 11:59:29 PM
Tried writing a feature length script recently?
Lindelof worked on Lost and wrote a whole mess of episodes. Let's stop acting like this is a monumental task, if writing a screenplay was that difficult TV wouldnt exist the way it does now.
Quote from: SM on Dec 21, 2012, 04:15:53 AM
Why bother? You apparently know how it all works.
Not to mention conveniently ignoring Lindelof saying he can only focus on one thing at a time and Prometheus 2 would be a 2 year commitment.
HA! this is funny! Cause you conveniently ignored that i ask what he is working on that needs so much work in my first post here.
Quote from: ShadowPred on Dec 21, 2012, 06:00:54 AM
Which is of course, bullshit. Plenty of scripts get sent in that people never even get a response to. If you're lucky, and the script reader passes on your script as one that has to be read, then and only then will it ever even be read by whoever is in charge of the script reader. And if they like it, they might end up responding, because even a producer or whatever who looks at the script is in no way a guarantee that you will ever get a response back.
It's nowhere near as easy as you put it.
There's so much more I didn't add here, like trying to get an agent for one, or how f**king difficult it is to even get in at all in the film business with your first script. There's so god damn much that is blocking the writer from even reaching their goal.
Dude, we are not talking about a kid that just graduated from Uni and is trying to get his script about aliens to be made. This is Lindelof... he got the job.
Quote from: DaddyYautja on Dec 21, 2012, 07:26:04 PM
Quote from: SiL on Dec 20, 2012, 11:59:29 PM
Tried writing a feature length script recently?
Lindelof worked on Lost and wrote a whole mess of episodes. Let's stop acting like this is a monumental task, if writing a screenplay was that difficult TV wouldnt exist the way it does now.
Quote from: SM on Dec 21, 2012, 04:15:53 AM
Why bother? You apparently know how it all works.
Not to mention conveniently ignoring Lindelof saying he can only focus on one thing at a time and Prometheus 2 would be a 2 year commitment.
HA! this is funny! Cause you conveniently ignored that i ask what he is working on that needs so much work in my first post here.
Quote from: ShadowPred on Dec 21, 2012, 06:00:54 AM
Which is of course, bullshit. Plenty of scripts get sent in that people never even get a response to. If you're lucky, and the script reader passes on your script as one that has to be read, then and only then will it ever even be read by whoever is in charge of the script reader. And if they like it, they might end up responding, because even a producer or whatever who looks at the script is in no way a guarantee that you will ever get a response back.
It's nowhere near as easy as you put it.
There's so much more I didn't add here, like trying to get an agent for one, or how f**king difficult it is to even get in at all in the film business with your first script. There's so god damn much that is blocking the writer from even reaching their goal.
Dude, we are not talking about a kid that just graduated from Uni and is trying to get his script about aliens to be made. This is Lindelof... he got the job.
No we weren't. Not on what my response was about. You said:
Quotedude all a writer does is write a script then send it in and wait to see what they think.
Now tell me where in that quote you even mentioned Lindleof. I wasn't talking about him yesterday night, and you sure as hell weren't talking about him specifically in that quote.
Quote from: ShadowPred on Dec 21, 2012, 08:44:24 PM
Quote from: DaddyYautja on Dec 21, 2012, 07:26:04 PM
Quote from: SiL on Dec 20, 2012, 11:59:29 PM
Tried writing a feature length script recently?
Lindelof worked on Lost and wrote a whole mess of episodes. Let's stop acting like this is a monumental task, if writing a screenplay was that difficult TV wouldnt exist the way it does now.
Quote from: SM on Dec 21, 2012, 04:15:53 AM
Why bother? You apparently know how it all works.
Not to mention conveniently ignoring Lindelof saying he can only focus on one thing at a time and Prometheus 2 would be a 2 year commitment.
HA! this is funny! Cause you conveniently ignored that i ask what he is working on that needs so much work in my first post here.
Quote from: ShadowPred on Dec 21, 2012, 06:00:54 AM
Which is of course, bullshit. Plenty of scripts get sent in that people never even get a response to. If you're lucky, and the script reader passes on your script as one that has to be read, then and only then will it ever even be read by whoever is in charge of the script reader. And if they like it, they might end up responding, because even a producer or whatever who looks at the script is in no way a guarantee that you will ever get a response back.
It's nowhere near as easy as you put it.
There's so much more I didn't add here, like trying to get an agent for one, or how f**king difficult it is to even get in at all in the film business with your first script. There's so god damn much that is blocking the writer from even reaching their goal.
Dude, we are not talking about a kid that just graduated from Uni and is trying to get his script about aliens to be made. This is Lindelof... he got the job.
No we weren't. Not on what my response was about. You said: Quotedude all a writer does is write a script then send it in and wait to see what they think.
Now tell me where in that quote you even mentioned Lindleof. I wasn't talking about him yesterday night, and you sure as hell weren't talking about him specifically in that quote.
The thread is about Lindelof not writing the next Prometheus movie............... why would i be discussing ANYTHING but the position Lindelof is in as a writer?
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Quote from: ShadowPred on Dec 21, 2012, 08:44:24 PM
Quote from: DaddyYautja on Dec 21, 2012, 07:26:04 PM
Quote from: SiL on Dec 20, 2012, 11:59:29 PM
Tried writing a feature length script recently?
Lindelof worked on Lost and wrote a whole mess of episodes. Let's stop acting like this is a monumental task, if writing a screenplay was that difficult TV wouldnt exist the way it does now.
Quote from: SM on Dec 21, 2012, 04:15:53 AM
Why bother? You apparently know how it all works.
Not to mention conveniently ignoring Lindelof saying he can only focus on one thing at a time and Prometheus 2 would be a 2 year commitment.
HA! this is funny! Cause you conveniently ignored that i ask what he is working on that needs so much work in my first post here.
Quote from: ShadowPred on Dec 21, 2012, 06:00:54 AM
Which is of course, bullshit. Plenty of scripts get sent in that people never even get a response to. If you're lucky, and the script reader passes on your script as one that has to be read, then and only then will it ever even be read by whoever is in charge of the script reader. And if they like it, they might end up responding, because even a producer or whatever who looks at the script is in no way a guarantee that you will ever get a response back.
It's nowhere near as easy as you put it.
There's so much more I didn't add here, like trying to get an agent for one, or how f**king difficult it is to even get in at all in the film business with your first script. There's so god damn much that is blocking the writer from even reaching their goal.
Dude, we are not talking about a kid that just graduated from Uni and is trying to get his script about aliens to be made. This is Lindelof... he got the job.
No we weren't. Not on what my response was about. You said: Quotedude all a writer does is write a script then send it in and wait to see what they think.
Now tell me where in that quote you even mentioned Lindleof. I wasn't talking about him yesterday night, and you sure as hell weren't talking about him specifically in that quote.
The thread is about Lindelof not writing the next Prometheus movie............... why would i be discussing ANYTHING but the position Lindelof is in as a writer?
I quoted you, and nowhere in that quote did you mention Lindleof at all. Do I need to quote you again?
Quotedude all a writer does is write a script then send it in and wait to see what they think.
You do realize that my response was because you make it seem that all a writer needs to do, any writer needs to do, is to just send in a script and wait for a response. That's all I was responding to, your quote had nothing to do with Lindleof, so don't say that it does. You were making a generalization of any and all writers in that quote of yours.
Quote from: DaddyYautja on Dec 21, 2012, 07:26:04 PM
Lindelof worked on Lost and wrote a whole mess of episodes. Let's stop acting like this is a monumental task, if writing a screenplay was that difficult TV wouldnt exist the way it does now.
Feature length. 100+ pages, not 40. TV exists the way it does now because writing shorter scripts
is relatively simple, that's why I said
feature length.
Quote from: DaddyYautja on Dec 21, 2012, 07:26:04 PM
Quote from: SiL on Dec 20, 2012, 11:59:29 PM
Tried writing a feature length script recently?
Lindelof worked on Lost and wrote a whole mess of episodes. Let's stop acting like this is a monumental task, if writing a screenplay was that difficult TV wouldnt exist the way it does now.
Lost had a full team of writers, as all shows do. They also have fully outlined arcs that lead as far as the number of guaranteed seasons. There's also something called creative effort and ability. This isn't limited to Damon Lindelof lord of all things evil and to be damned, you've made this as broad as referring to any writer.
I mean, how clueless can you be?
QuoteHA! this is funny! Cause you conveniently ignored that i ask what he is working on that needs so much work in my first post here.
Because it's irrelevant.
But keep on digging.
Quote from: DaddyYautja on Dec 21, 2012, 07:26:04 PM
HA! this is funny! Cause you conveniently ignored that i ask what he is working on that needs so much work in my first post here.
Like the movie he's writing and producing with Brad Bird and getting the TV show says he's really passionate about off the ground?
Goddamn, reading
am hard!
Quote from: Space Sweeper on Dec 22, 2012, 10:14:12 AMThey also have fully outlined arcs
Lindelof wouldn't know a character arc if his grandmother stepped out of a wormhole and burned his typewriter.
Alrighty then.
No? Damn, I thought that was clever. :P
Quote from: ChrisPachi on Dec 22, 2012, 03:02:42 PM
No? Damn, I thought that was clever. :P
I liked it Chris, I liked it!
I've said it before, I'll say it again, I think Lindelof is great as an IDEAS man. But as a writer he is poor on the character/dialogue/plotting front.
Quote from: ShadowPred on Dec 22, 2012, 05:24:15 AM
I quoted you, and nowhere in that quote did you mention Lindleof at all. Do I need to quote you again?
Quotedude all a writer does is write a script then send it in and wait to see what they think.
You do realize that my response was because you make it seem that all a writer needs to do, any writer needs to do, is to just send in a script and wait for a response. That's all I was responding to, your quote had nothing to do with Lindleof, so don't say that it does. You were making a generalization of any and all writers in that quote of yours.
1. You dont tell a poster what you he/she meant when he made a post because you, as far as well all know, are not psychic so you have zero idea about it. So unless you are going to reveal your mutant power to us....i suggest you stop with this idea.
2. ( for the second time )The thread is about Lindelof and about him not writing the sequel to Prometheus so who would EVER use an example about a total unknown writer trying to send in a script as if it was his first time shopping one out instead of a writer who already has the job? It just doesnt make ANY sense whatsoever.
3. I was replying to some one who SPECIFICALLY mentions something from the article which is talking about Lindelof so the discussion is OBVIOUSLY about that subject.
Quote from: SM on Dec 22, 2012, 10:23:48 AM
Because it's irrelevant.
But keep on digging.
If it's not relevant why then did you make a post saying i ignored those things when i didnt?
You are the one here digging some weird whole that is not making any sort of sense.
Quote from: SiL on Dec 22, 2012, 09:40:34 AM
Feature length. 100+ pages, not 40. TV exists the way it does now because writing shorter scripts is relatively simple, that's why I said feature length.
Lindelof wrote more than one episode per season. So he easily breaks the movie script page number.
And all this is saying is how much of a sucky writer he is.
Okay, let's back off one another now and get back to topic. Thanks.
Yeah, fair enough. Post deleted.
QuoteIf it's not relevant why then did you make a post saying i ignored those things when i didnt?
You are the one here digging some weird whole that is not making any sort of sense.
No, try again - it IS irrelevant. Whatever Lindelof is working on in favour of committing two years to Prometheus 2 doesn't make any difference to anything.
Bottom line is, he's not doing it and has explained why. Get over it.
Quote from: DaddyYautja on Dec 22, 2012, 07:32:23 PM
Lindelof wrote more than one episode per season. So he easily breaks the movie script page number.
You clearly have no idea what you're talking about, and any attempt to explain is going to be met with nothing but your willful ignorance.
Quote from: SiL on Dec 22, 2012, 11:22:24 PM
Quote from: DaddyYautja on Dec 22, 2012, 07:32:23 PM
Lindelof wrote more than one episode per season. So he easily breaks the movie script page number.
You clearly have no idea what you're talking about, and any attempt to explain is going to be met with nothing but your willful ignorance.
QFT.
It's like trying to say that because you've done X amount of running in your life, you can suddenly get up and run a marathon of the same equal amount of running.
Exactly.
I can write half a dozen five page scripts in a week -- that's 60 pages. Sweet.
I couldn't write 60 pages of a feature length script in that time if I expected it to be any good. Same number of pages, but very different disciplines.
regardless the movie still sucked and should have not made it past a draft I was forced to watch a draft with good visuals....
Quote from: darkvegett0 on Dec 23, 2012, 06:14:08 AM
regardless the movie still sucked and should have not made it past a draft I was forced to watch a draft with good visuals....
What you saw on screen was the 7th or 8th draft (just an estimate - Spaihts did 5 drafts... Lindelof worked on it for a
year...) It seems the writers were the problem, not the time allocated to writing or the drafts they went through.
I don't know if writing an script, is easy or dificult,or if it takes one month or two years, and I trully don't give a shit, but both spaiths and Lindelof scripts are rubish, and Riddley is the first to blame for accepting them. The movie sucks.
Won't surprise me if they did a Prometheus Reboot.
Given the film was a financial success -- not a huge success, just a success --, it would surprise me if they rebooted it so fast.
Quote from: OmegaZilla on Dec 23, 2012, 03:33:27 PM
Given the film was a financial success -- not a huge success, just a success --, it would surprise me if they rebooted it so fast.
A big enough sucess that they will try to replicate that sucess in the sequel. They certainly won't 're-boot'... I would imagine. :)
I was kidding, but it would be such a stupid and nonsensical Idea, that it wont surprise me anyway.
Quote from: Tough little S.O.B. on Dec 23, 2012, 03:01:10 PM
spaiths and Lindelof and Riddley
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Very happy to hear Lindelof is gone. Honestly I blame most of the problem on him. When you hear him in interviews, I just don't understand how such a young guy was given the reigns. Prometheus has its critics and it's reasonable. There are mistakes and dumb stuff in the movie in areas and it just nearly ruins it. He's a young guy with too much of a care-free dopey outlook and attitude to handle a project like prometheus which should have been more cerebral and unique. The whole Engineer being propped up as some genius god idea, only to follow it up with him acting like a mindless frankenstein at the end, is almost inexcusable.The sequel needs better writers, or Scott should be more hands on himself. Frankly the idea of putting it out and making it so epic, you better have an epic writer of legendary status writing it. Not the guy who did Lost, which has so many of its own problems along it's run.
Quote from: goneja on Dec 24, 2012, 02:08:44 AMThe sequel needs better writers, or Scott should be more hands on himself.
It certainly needs better writers but I am not sure whether having Scott more hands on is such a good idea.
Scott was anything but "hands-off" on Prometheus. Whether that's a good or bad thing depends on who you're asking.
QuoteI just don't understand how such a young guy was given the reigns
Go check his credits.
Quote from: tmjhur on Dec 22, 2012, 03:10:14 PM
Quote from: ChrisPachi on Dec 22, 2012, 03:02:42 PM
No? Damn, I thought that was clever. :P
I liked it Chris, I liked it!
I've said it before, I'll say it again, I think Lindelof is great as an IDEAS man. But as a writer he is poor on the character/dialogue/plotting front.
The character of David that most seemed to enjoy seem to be most lindelof doing. Spaiht just had his as an awful Bond villain. Plus, if anything the movie had just too many character to handle in the allotted screen time. Someone will toss aliens back as a rebuttal but it is easier to characterize a bunch of military jocks spouting one liners then an entire crew of scientist with few military men among them because of the established military stereotypes (hard ass drill sgt, young leader type, the coward turned hero, etc).
Don't forget crazy religious self mutilation guy
Can't say it's a loss for Prometheus 2. But, in Lindelof's defence, Ridley did make a couple silly changes and decisions.
Quote from: Vickers on Dec 27, 2012, 08:13:49 PM
Can't say it's a loss for Prometheus 2. But, in Lindelof's defence, Ridley did make a couple silly changes and decisions.
Agreed. For those of us who were terribly dissapointed with Prometheus, Ridley Scott bears as much responsibility as Lindelof. If the buck doesn't stop with the Director, where does it stop?