As has become tradition a catch all thread for the smaller things to do with Skulls that might not warrant their own thread or taking over another thread.
Another "hindsight is 20/20" news - Kyle Strauts, Dan Trachtenberg, and Amber Midthunder have all recently started to follow Dakota Beavers from the band WesternBoy on IG.
WesternBoy IG post shows them in Alberta Canada and the video from Dakota says they will be off the map for a couple of months but have some exciting news coming soon.
Neither of the band members have any IMDb profiles so maybe this has something to do with music for the movie. Unless they have some type of background/extra role.
**Just noticed the WesternBoy IG account recently started to follow Amber Midthunder's mom's casting agency -- https://www.instagram.com/midthundercasting/
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Kyle Strauts' quarantine period in Calgary is over per his IG stories
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Quote from: ace3g on May 22, 2021, 09:17:23 PM
Another "hindsight is 20/20" news - Kyle Strauts, Dan Trachtenberg, and Amber Midthunder have all recently started to follow Dakota Beavers from the band WesternBoy on IG.
Yeah, I noticed Dakota Beavers a while back too. Part of me thought he might be involved, part of me thought perhaps someone keeps recommending his music. :)
Some new photos from Strauts' IG stories
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Seeing photos like this I wonder if we will see escape by river scenes like the one from The Revenant in Skulls
**Better yet what if Kee sets some type of trap that forces the Predator into the river.
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Just bring on the Predator vs Bears action!
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Bear or mythic creature? You can only have one.
Quote from: Corporal Hicks on May 24, 2021, 02:17:00 PM
Bear or mythic creature? You can only have one.
No contest for me - Mythic creature for sure! Eric's idea that the Predator is on Earth to hunt something else. And make it a Yeti!
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Quote from: Voodoo Magic on May 24, 2021, 02:08:22 PM
Just bring on the Predator vs Bears action!
https://media3.giphy.com/media/kMUNtbnRrwXAc/giphy.gif?cid=6c09b9529c0cab2f8c9c1954e4437f53b328979df181fc21&rid=giphy.gif
Opening scene - Predator stalks (only seen through Predator vision) and kills bear.
When the Predator is fully revealed we see him wearing a mantle made of bear fur and decorated with the bears skull and bones.
👀
I'd be game for that. :)
That reminds me we also desperately need a classic back in the day thermal vision, the one in The Predator was horrendous.
So much to fix...
Quote from: BigDaddyJohn on May 24, 2021, 03:02:05 PM
That reminds me we also desperately need a classic back in the day thermal vision, the one in The Predator was horrendous.
Yep, Pred's main vision should be that from P1/P2. Don't fix what ain't broken. Now the pred can cycle through other vision modes depending on the situation he is in like P2.
Here's a good question, does the Predator's technology advance? You could argue that the farther back we go we see the technology not as refined. Every film has made advancements in how the character carries or uses its arsenal like City Hunter has more gadgets but Fugitive's helmet is also a gun. So you could explain it as earlier versions of what we'd see later. The 5th film might have a shoulder canon like the AVP films. Kind of chunky, but since this is earlier in the timeline you wouldn't have a gun you could keep in your helmet or mount to an arm. So being a back to basics movie you could justify that because they haven't reached the point yet where they could do the things later films do.
I get what you're saying, but still they are already able to space travel to distant planets... So why wouldn't they be able to already have a weapon mounted on their wrist ?
Quote from: BigDaddyJohn on May 24, 2021, 11:26:00 PM
I get what you're saying, but still they are already able to space travel to distant planets... So why wouldn't they be able to already have a weapon mounted on their wrist ?
It can be situational. Remember that City Hunter saw the footage of Jungle Hunter's hunt, studied it and prepared well for the hunt ahead. Jungle Hunter was very lightly equipped on his hunt and so CH must have figured out to be a bit more decked out on gear just in case for whatever he might encounter in LA. Didn't really save him, but it helped him last longer in the hunt. Even Wolf, Fugitive, and Upgrade had more decked out gear than their other counterparts due to it being a mission based scenario and not one of a real hunt.
Yeah, I would think it's definitely situational with conditions determined by sport. I mean, there's human hunters today (unfortunately) that still choose to hunt bears with spears. It's all about the challenge.
New crew member added on IMDb -- Kendelle Elliott - Art Director
https://www.imdb.com/name/nm0254521/?ref_=ttfc_fc_cr6
Resume:
2019 Cold Pursuit (supervising art director)
2018 Operation Finale
2014 Interstellar
2011 The Cabin in the Woods
Nice Ace!
Hey brother, are you like me where I feel I've watched one too many videos of Kyle Strauts dancing in his underwear? :laugh:
Kyle's a good dancer though.
Quote from: Voodoo Magic on May 25, 2021, 11:58:46 AM
Nice Ace!
Hey brother, are you like me where I feel I've watched one too many videos of Kyle Strauts dancing in his underwear? :laugh:
Kyle's a good dancer though.
:laugh: After seeing the preview tile for that particular story I started scrolling over, of course all of his dance ones consists of like 6-7 stories; that is a lot of underwear dancing you having to slide past, :laugh:
:laugh: Indeed!
Strauts' IG story from 2 hours ago
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Quote from: ace3g on May 26, 2021, 02:30:53 AM
Strauts' IG story from 2 hours ago
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Great! 💪💪💪🍀🍀🍀🌞🌞
https://twitter.com/geno604/status/1397368169275166721?s=19
DGC website updated some crew members for the movie
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Stefany Mathias responded to a comment about her traveling IG post that she is in Calgary Alberta
Her previous post was captioned with "Last day with my little family of husband and fur babes before heading off to shoot for a month"
She also recently started to follow Dan Trachtenberg on Twitter.
From previous post
Reply #395 on: Mar 29, 2021, 04:33:54 PM
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Back on topic, thanks to Whos_Nick - kept Vimeo as a resource.
Actress Stefany Mathias posted various audition takes for Aruka (Kee and Taabe's mother); scene is between Aruka and Kee.
Her IMDb page: https://www.imdb.com/name/nm0558774/
Nice!
So Stefany Mathias probably won the roll for Aruka! Good for her. I really enjoyed her audition!
Based on the site below one of the stunt coordinators is Steven McMichael.
Source link: https://www.actraalberta.com/whats-shooting/
IMDb link: https://www.imdb.com/name/nm0573242/
Steven definitely has a solid resume!
Quote from: Voodoo Magic on May 25, 2021, 11:58:46 AM
Nice Ace!
Hey brother, are you like me where I feel I've watched one too many videos of Kyle Strauts dancing in his underwear? :laugh:
Kyle's a good dancer though.
I guess Kyle saw your comments about dancing in underwear and tried to one up that (in picture form).
Quote from: ace3g on May 28, 2021, 09:20:16 PM
Quote from: Voodoo Magic on May 25, 2021, 11:58:46 AM
Nice Ace!
Hey brother, are you like me where I feel I've watched one too many videos of Kyle Strauts dancing in his underwear? :laugh:
Kyle's a good dancer though.
I guess Kyle saw your comments about dancing in underwear and tried to one up that (in picture form).
lol. I know precisely what you're talking about....
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Kyle Strauts just posted this story on IG with Tammy Nera @tama_llam. She does a lot of stunt work including stunt double: Zazie Beetz) in Deadpool 2. She could possibly be the stunt double for Amber Midthunder.
IMDb profile: https://www.imdb.com/name/nm2738010/
**Should have read further down her profile, that is exactly why she is there.
Legion (TV Series) (stunt double - 3 episodes)
- Chapter 8 (2017) ... (stunt double: Amber Midthunder - uncredited)
- Chapter 7 (2017) ... (stunt double: Amber Midthunder - uncredited)
- Chapter 4 (2017) ... (stunt double: Amber Midthunder - uncredited)
Quote from: ace3g on May 29, 2021, 03:27:22 AM
Kyle Strauts just posted this story on IG with Tammy Nera @tama_llam. She does a lot of stunt work including stunt double: Zazie Beetz) in Deadpool 2. She could possibly be the stunt double for Amber Midthunder.
IMDb profile: https://www.imdb.com/name/nm2738010/
**Should have read further down her profile, that is exactly why she is there.
Legion (TV Series) (stunt double - 3 episodes)
- Chapter 8 (2017) ... (stunt double: Amber Midthunder - uncredited)
- Chapter 7 (2017) ... (stunt double: Amber Midthunder - uncredited)
- Chapter 4 (2017) ... (stunt double: Amber Midthunder - uncredited)
Haha, yeah, that's pretty much a clear indicator isn't it. Nice find ace!
Ooh, interesting. Classic Predator vs last survivor
https://www.instagram.com/p/CPdlQzugdY8/?utm_medium=copy_link&fbclid=IwAR15jZw9it2IeV8JgfGjAUNx-n4Lz9mtUbpyHAbJVdsim7wu2qvX8K_C5qA
Praying the fourth time is the charm 🙏
Tom seems noticeably absent :(
Hmm. Indeed.... 🤔
Quote from: RidgeTop on May 29, 2021, 04:53:17 PM
https://www.instagram.com/p/CPdlQzugdY8/?utm_medium=copy_link&fbclid=IwAR15jZw9it2IeV8JgfGjAUNx-n4Lz9mtUbpyHAbJVdsim7wu2qvX8K_C5qA
Here is another photo from Sara Villarreal @saratheterra IG page from that same shoot.
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Quote from: SiL on May 29, 2021, 11:13:33 PM
Tom seems noticeably absent :(
Are you suggesting there is something to it? Genuinely asking, don't know if I've missed something.
Quote from: Voodoo Magic on May 29, 2021, 10:53:27 PM
Praying the fourth time is the charm 🙏
If they get it right it's fantastic for everyone. History tells me they won't but I'm prepared to apologise if I see fit with this attempt!
Ok so we got three people wearing shirts with Skulls, and one with shirt featuring a Native American headdress. So... we confirming this?
Quote from: seattle24 on May 30, 2021, 07:36:23 AM
Quote from: SiL on May 29, 2021, 11:13:33 PM
Tom seems noticeably absent :(
Are you suggesting there is something to it? Genuinely asking, don't know if I've missed something.
No, but a few people on Instagram are also asking. Considering he's a cofounder and Alec is there, it's a bit odd. But he have just been busy.
Quote from: seattle24 on May 30, 2021, 07:36:23 AM
Quote from: Voodoo Magic on May 29, 2021, 10:53:27 PM
Praying the fourth time is the charm 🙏
If they get it right it's fantastic for everyone. History tells me they won't but I'm prepared to apologise if I see fit with this attempt!
I think it's fair to raise or lower your expectations based on a past body of work, so there would be no need for you to apologize. :) But yeah, I too am prepared for the worst, hoping for the best, and would love to be surprised and singing their praises a year from now. 🤞
Quote from: RidgeTop on May 30, 2021, 08:16:41 AM
Ok so we got three people wearing shirts with Skulls, and one with shirt featuring a Native American headdress. So... we confirming this?
As far as I can tell, everyone here at least has treating ADI's involvement as a foregone conclusion since March. Once it appeared that Onyx is working on Skulls too though, it's just all been hypothesizing on who's getting what job assignments.
New post from cinematographer Jeff Cutter
QuoteMore covid scouting #skulls #predator
14m
OT but if Pred was tracking Sasquatch, he's a bit clumsy
Well even if this movie turns out to be bad, it will definitely have some beautiful scenery.
Quote from: ace3g on Jun 04, 2021, 01:46:11 AM
OT but if Pred was tracking Sasquatch, he's a bit clumsy
https://www.instagram.com/p/CPltd0CjlXQ/
Umm, clumsy? Clearly the Sasquatch was knocked over by a camouflaged Predator. Any hardcore Predator fan can see that.... ;)
Quote from: BigDaddyJohn on Jun 04, 2021, 09:03:44 AM
Well even if this movie turns out to be bad, it will definitely have some beautiful scenery.
Just turn down the volume and enjoy! :D
Quote from: BigDaddyJohn on Jun 04, 2021, 09:03:44 AM
Well even if this movie turns out to be bad, it will definitely have some beautiful scenery.
The Predator was the ultimate low for the franchise. If they somehow manage to find a level lower than that then this franchise just needs to be buried and left alone for good.
Quote from: goose_3387 on Jun 04, 2021, 02:14:54 PM
Quote from: BigDaddyJohn on Jun 04, 2021, 09:03:44 AM
Well even if this movie turns out to be bad, it will definitely have some beautiful scenery.
The Predator was the ultimate low for the franchise. If they somehow manage to find a level lower than that then this franchise just needs to be buried and left alone for good.
I heard the
exact same thing after AVP... Then the
exact same thing again with AVPR...
Quote from: BigDaddyJohn on Jun 04, 2021, 03:23:54 PM
Quote from: goose_3387 on Jun 04, 2021, 02:14:54 PM
Quote from: BigDaddyJohn on Jun 04, 2021, 09:03:44 AM
Well even if this movie turns out to be bad, it will definitely have some beautiful scenery.
The Predator was the ultimate low for the franchise. If they somehow manage to find a level lower than that then this franchise just needs to be buried and left alone for good.
I heard the exact same thing after AVP... Then the exact same thing again with AVPR...
There's definitely a trend there...doesn't look good. 😅
Although I feel The Predator, as bad as it was, was more of an insult and middle finger to the fanbase then just straight up bad.
Quote from: goose_3387 on Jun 04, 2021, 03:48:57 PM
Quote from: BigDaddyJohn on Jun 04, 2021, 03:23:54 PM
Quote from: goose_3387 on Jun 04, 2021, 02:14:54 PM
Quote from: BigDaddyJohn on Jun 04, 2021, 09:03:44 AM
Well even if this movie turns out to be bad, it will definitely have some beautiful scenery.
The Predator was the ultimate low for the franchise. If they somehow manage to find a level lower than that then this franchise just needs to be buried and left alone for good.
I heard the exact same thing after AVP... Then the exact same thing again with AVPR...
There's definitely a trend there...doesn't look good. 😅
Although I feel The Predator, as bad as it was, was more of an insult and middle finger to the fanbase then just straight up bad.
I disagree but hey, to each their own.
Quote from: goose_3387 on Jun 04, 2021, 03:48:57 PM
Quote from: BigDaddyJohn on Jun 04, 2021, 03:23:54 PM
Quote from: goose_3387 on Jun 04, 2021, 02:14:54 PM
Quote from: BigDaddyJohn on Jun 04, 2021, 09:03:44 AM
Well even if this movie turns out to be bad, it will definitely have some beautiful scenery.
The Predator was the ultimate low for the franchise. If they somehow manage to find a level lower than that then this franchise just needs to be buried and left alone for good.
I heard the exact same thing after AVP... Then the exact same thing again with AVPR...
There's definitely a trend there...doesn't look good. 😅
Although I feel The Predator, as bad as it was, was more of an insult and middle finger to the fanbase then just straight up bad.
I agree :)
But it's also just straight up bad
Quote from: BigDaddyJohn on Jun 04, 2021, 03:23:54 PM
Quote from: goose_3387 on Jun 04, 2021, 02:14:54 PM
Quote from: BigDaddyJohn on Jun 04, 2021, 09:03:44 AM
Well even if this movie turns out to be bad, it will definitely have some beautiful scenery.
The Predator was the ultimate low for the franchise. If they somehow manage to find a level lower than that then this franchise just needs to be buried and left alone for good.
I heard the exact same thing after AVP... Then the exact same thing again with AVPR...
To be fair, there wasn't an AVP film after AVPR.....
All I know is that The Predator is super low and I don't think Skulls will reach there, on the optimistic side. Lord knows that there are ways to make it worse but hey, I just want a great film.
The Predator would've been a way better videogame. Had this been made in the early 2000's where every release had a videogame tie-in it probably would've been like X-men origins. Movie might be bad but you can at least appreciate a solid videogame. If only.
Looks like Jungjin Park is involved with Skulls for Fight Choreography.
QuoteThank you Steve give me huge opportunity🙏🙏
aka Steven McMichael - Stunt coordinator for the film.
Linked with this IG story from Kyle Strauts
**Also Dane DiLiegro has to be involved in some capacity. He is constantly commenting on Skulls' cast member's social media posts (also following them as well).
Cool! 👍
Quote from: SuperiorIronman on Jun 04, 2021, 09:45:34 PM
The Predator would've been a way better videogame. Had this been made in the early 2000's where every release had a videogame tie-in it probably would've been like X-men origins. Movie might be bad but you can at least appreciate a solid videogame. If only.
I think a video game could have been a safer choice. Much in the same way that, if Concrete Jungle was a movie I probably would have had the same issues with it, but as a videogame it gets a pass. Idk, but maybe just save the real crazy ideas for the video games.
1 day away from beginning of filming.
Quote from: ace3g on Jun 06, 2021, 05:49:11 AM
1 day away from beginning of filming.
So they could potentially be shut down one week into filming?
Yes, potentially.
Quote from: SiL on Jun 06, 2021, 11:21:37 AM
Yes, potentially.
If shut down would Disney still have to pay everyone under contract?
Everyone would be paid for services already rendered.
They would not likely be entitled to pay them for the downtime should an injunction occur. Everyone's a contractor and so if the production shuts down, people usually don't get paid.
Productions shutting down is nothing new, unfortunately, and that's typically how it goes.
But we don't know the legal structures and contracts in place, so this is just based on a general case.
I have a not great feeling about this film sadly.
Quote from: goose_3387 on Jun 06, 2021, 12:07:16 PM
Quote from: SiL on Jun 06, 2021, 11:21:37 AM
Yes, potentially.
If shut down would Disney still have to pay everyone under contract?
The big names on both sides of the camera often have pay or play contracts, which means they'll get their money regardless if Skulls is stopped with a preliminary injunction or not.
The lesser positions however will likely be paid for services rendered to the point they are let go.
Yeah and that sucks.
Another reason to hope it doesn't come to pass.
https://www.instagram.com/p/CPycuWhJFJ5/?utm_medium=copy_link
I wonder if we will get some official casting news tomorrow.
https://twitter.com/geno604/status/1401669982673510407
Quote from: Voodoo Magic on Jun 06, 2021, 07:41:38 PM
Another reason to hope it doesn't come to pass.
https://www.instagram.com/p/CPycuWhJFJ5/?utm_medium=copy_link
Looks like a cast/crew camp in the distance there.
Yeah, I noticed that too. Can't figure out what's in Dan's hand though...
Quote from: Voodoo Magic on Jun 06, 2021, 07:41:38 PM
Another reason to hope it doesn't come to pass.
https://www.instagram.com/p/CPycuWhJFJ5/?utm_medium=copy_link
The green foliage contrasting against the blue and grey in the sky looks good. If all else fails the cinematographer needs to nail the look of the film as a minimum.
Hoping for some sort of social media announcement today by Dan confirming the first day of filming, even if it's just a pic of the Skulls film clapperboard.
Hope they keep the name too. Grown to like the name Skulls.
Quote from: goose_3387 on Jun 07, 2021, 03:07:34 PM
Hope they keep the name too. Grown to like the name Skulls.
So much agreed!
I think I need it to be Predator: Skulls.
If they want to keep the surprise it should stay Skulls. They can add Predator: at home release ;)
The cat is well and truly out of the bag.
Yeah, the Skulls title is throwing me off but I guess its their way of rebooting the series. I do love the idea of this movie having some Bone Tomahawk and Revenant vibes though. Hopefully they go with that sort of art direction.
Hopefully this is a signal of some official announcements, as mentioned earlier, Steve is the President of Production at 20th Century Studios
https://twitter.com/steveasbell/status/1402096682179780609
Quote from: ace3g on Jun 08, 2021, 03:01:30 AM
Hopefully this is a signal of some official announcements, as mentioned earlier, Steve is the President of Production at 20th Century Studios
https://twitter.com/steveasbell/status/1402096682179780609
Is it just me or am I interpreting that as a negative sign? "Hope this guy works AGAIN." Not "This guy is currently working on something..." It was SOOOOOOOOO quiet today on the SKULLS news front. A lot of sources named films that went into production today like INDIANA JONES 5. Not a peep from SKULLS. Bad sign?
They're not going to officially announce something that could get shut down one week into filming.
Quote from: Proteus on Jun 08, 2021, 03:37:20 AM
Quote from: ace3g on Jun 08, 2021, 03:01:30 AM
Hopefully this is a signal of some official announcements, as mentioned earlier, Steve is the President of Production at 20th Century Studios
https://twitter.com/steveasbell/status/1402096682179780609
Is it just me or am I interpreting that as a negative sign? "Hope this guy works AGAIN." Not "This guy is currently working on something..." It was SOOOOOOOOO quiet today on the SKULLS news front. A lot of sources named films that went into production today like INDIANA JONES 5. Not a peep from SKULLS. Bad sign?
If you look at the rest of his Twitter it comes across very tongue in cheek.
Bad timing the past 2 days for IG to go down with the start of filming.
Quote from: ace3g on Jun 08, 2021, 09:00:15 PM
Bad timing the past 2 days for IG to go down with the start of filming.
Sorry if this turns out to be painfully obvious and I'm just too slow this morning because I have yet to have my coffee, but IG? What's IG?
Quote from: Voodoo Magic on Jun 09, 2021, 01:30:52 PM
Quote from: ace3g on Jun 08, 2021, 09:00:15 PM
Bad timing the past 2 days for IG to go down with the start of filming.
Sorry if this turns out to be painfully obvious and I'm just too slow this morning because I have yet to have my coffee, but IG? What's IG?
Instagram.
Quote from: goose_3387 on Jun 09, 2021, 01:35:13 PM
Quote from: Voodoo Magic on Jun 09, 2021, 01:30:52 PM
Quote from: ace3g on Jun 08, 2021, 09:00:15 PM
Bad timing the past 2 days for IG to go down with the start of filming.
Sorry if this turns out to be painfully obvious and I'm just too slow this morning because I have yet to have my coffee, but IG? What's IG?
Instagram.
Ah, thanks. I guess I've never come across it abbreviated that way, other than IG meaning "I guess". Appreciate it!
Quote from: Voodoo Magic on Jun 09, 2021, 01:37:56 PM
Quote from: goose_3387 on Jun 09, 2021, 01:35:13 PM
Quote from: Voodoo Magic on Jun 09, 2021, 01:30:52 PM
Quote from: ace3g on Jun 08, 2021, 09:00:15 PM
Bad timing the past 2 days for IG to go down with the start of filming.
Sorry if this turns out to be painfully obvious and I'm just too slow this morning because I have yet to have my coffee, but IG? What's IG?
Instagram.
Ah, thanks. I guess I've never come across it abbreviated that way, other than IG meaning "I guess". Appreciate it!
No worries. 👍
A little sketch I did for fun of "Kee" :)
(https://i.ibb.co/m0j9KsK/IMG-20210609-142024.jpg)
(https://i.ibb.co/xms9KjG/Screenshot-20210609-162907-Twitter.jpg)
Nice drawing. 👍👌
Think she'll look like that?
Quote from: goose_3387 on Jun 09, 2021, 09:09:13 PM
Nice drawing. 👍👌
Think she'll look like that?
Thanks goose!
I was thinking perhaps Kee could appear something like this towards the end of the movie, yeah, maybe.
Some Comanche Warriors apparently wore headdressing like this. One would imagine defeating the Predator would finally win her acceptance as a warrior within her tribe, and I can see her adorned with some sort of Yautja spoils marking her accomplishment.
The spearhead is a nice touch!
Nice work!
Thank you both!
And now, it's colored!
(https://i.ibb.co/DKwq93Q/IMG-20210610-004430.jpg)
Mind you I'd be quite surprised if it ends with actually Kee decorated for their actions.
Damn Voodoo ! You got skills ! ;)
Well, I try to at least. Thanks BDJ!
Quote from: Trash Queen on Jun 10, 2021, 05:04:34 AM
Mind you I'd be quite surprised if it ends with actually Kee decorated for their actions.
You'd be surprised if it ends with Kee finally accepted and decorated as a warrior? Hmm. How would you expect the ending to go then? The formula of the first three films? Ending with Kee exhausted and beat to sh*t?
Quote from: Voodoo Magic on Jun 10, 2021, 11:26:11 AM
Well, I try to at least. Thanks BDJ!
Quote from: Trash Queen on Jun 10, 2021, 05:04:34 AM
Mind you I'd be quite surprised if it ends with actually Kee decorated for their actions.
You'd be surprised if it ends with Kee finally accepted and decorated as a warrior? Hmm. How would you expect the ending to go then? The formula of the first three films? Ending with Kee exhausted and beat to sh*t?
As much as I'd love the Pred to survive there's no way it happens in this film with the first female protagonist.
Think she'll take the Pred down like Dutch did, not as physical, but using her skills and as mentioned before a poisoned spear or something.
She walks back into her settlement and throws the Preds head into the middle of the fire and without making eye contact with anyone, stands for a few seconds then proceeds to walk away. 👀
Finally a social media post from the crew. I've mentioned before that Jhane Myers was a producer/cultural advisor on the film. Some background from her IMDb page:
Jhane Myers, a Comanche and Blackfeet American Indian is known for her attention to detail and dedication to producing, Native language, Native cultural advising, acting and fine art.
QuoteWhen work comes with a cookie!!!
@dannytrs #day1 #numunu #stoodis
Quote from: Voodoo Magic on Jun 10, 2021, 04:54:22 AM
Thank you both!
And now, it's colored!
(https://i.ibb.co/DKwq93Q/IMG-20210610-004430.jpg)
Hey Voodoo, that's really good! You should put those talents to work on the regular.
Quote from: ace3g on Jun 10, 2021, 02:17:12 PM
Finally a social media post from the crew. I've mentioned before that Jhane Myers was a producer/cultural advisor on the film. Some background from her IMDb page:
Jhane Myers, a Comanche and Blackfeet American Indian is known for her attention to detail and dedication to producing, Native language, Native cultural advising, acting and fine art.
QuoteWhen work comes with a cookie!!!
@dannytrs #day1 #numunu #stoodis
https://www.instagram.com/p/CP7gO_QL1-f/
Seriously impressed with that cookie. I can imagine how hard it would be to reproduce a Predator head using icing :o And also really happy that Jhane is included in this project.
Voodoo is that super cool man you want to hang out with.
Quote from: Voodoo Magic on Jun 10, 2021, 04:54:22 AM
Thank you both!
And now, it's colored!
(https://i.ibb.co/DKwq93Q/IMG-20210610-004430.jpg)
You are so skilled, I love it! :o
Quote from: goose_3387 on Jun 10, 2021, 01:18:17 PM
Quote from: Voodoo Magic on Jun 10, 2021, 11:26:11 AM
Well, I try to at least. Thanks BDJ!
Quote from: Trash Queen on Jun 10, 2021, 05:04:34 AM
Mind you I'd be quite surprised if it ends with actually Kee decorated for their actions.
You'd be surprised if it ends with Kee finally accepted and decorated as a warrior? Hmm. How would you expect the ending to go then? The formula of the first three films? Ending with Kee exhausted and beat to sh*t?
As much as I'd love the Pred to survive there's no way it happens in this film with the first female protagonist.
Think she'll take the Pred down like Dutch did, not as physical, but using her skills and as mentioned before a poisoned spear or something.
She walks back into her settlement and throws the Preds head into the middle of the fire and without making eye contact with anyone, stands for a few seconds then proceeds to walk away. 👀
Haha. Excellent. I can totally see this happening. It would be like a big F-U to anyone who didn't believe in her. ;D
Quote from: ace3g on Jun 10, 2021, 02:17:12 PM
Finally a social media post from the crew. I've mentioned before that Jhane Myers was a producer/cultural advisor on the film. Some background from her IMDb page:
Jhane Myers, a Comanche and Blackfeet American Indian is known for her attention to detail and dedication to producing, Native language, Native cultural advising, acting and fine art.
QuoteWhen work comes with a cookie!!!
@dannytrs #day1 #numunu #stoodis
https://www.instagram.com/p/CP7gO_QL1-f/
Nice find Ace!
I hope that calms some early fears regarding authenticity, now that we have a confirmed Comanche advisor!
Quote from: Wysps on Jun 10, 2021, 03:27:09 PM
Quote from: Voodoo Magic on Jun 10, 2021, 04:54:22 AM
Thank you both!
And now, it's colored!
(https://i.ibb.co/DKwq93Q/IMG-20210610-004430.jpg)
Hey Voodoo, that's really good! You should put those talents to work on the regular.
Thanks Wysps! I would like to do it more than I currently am! :)
Quote from: Immortan Jonesy on Jun 10, 2021, 03:34:11 PM
Voodoo is that super cool man you want to hang out with.
Quote from: Voodoo Magic on Jun 10, 2021, 04:54:22 AM
Thank you both!
And now, it's colored!
(https://i.ibb.co/DKwq93Q/IMG-20210610-004430.jpg)
You are so skilled, I love it! :o
That has to be the best compliment in the world Jonesy. ♡ You're just the best, and thanks!!!
QuoteNice find Ace!
I hope that calms some early fears regarding authenticity, now that we have a confirmed Comanche advisor!
That and when I did research on Rene Haynes after she was listed as part of the crew and found out she is recognized in the entertainment industry as one of the foremost experts in Native American and First Nations casting and consults on many projects, both domestic and foreign.
From an "on paper" perspective, they are getting the right people for the crew of the film.
Random but IMDb changed the title of the movie from Skulls to Predator today.
Predator
aka "Skulls"
https://www.imdb.com/title/tt11866324/?ref_=fn_al_tt_2
Meant to post this the other day from Jhane's IG 5 days ago, possibly these are horses being used for the movie.
When life is simple and beautiful!
#smoothride #ocanada🇨🇦 #comanchepov
Another confirmation that studioADI is working on Skulls
QuoteThe best crew. @thestudioadi Get ready!
Amazing shirts designed by @h2originals
Layout and art by @jordan_k_morris
Quote from: ace3g on Jun 10, 2021, 11:49:17 PM
Random but IMDb changed the title of the movie from Skulls to Predator today.
Predator aka "Skulls"
https://www.imdb.com/title/tt11866324/?ref_=fn_al_tt_2
I assume that was someone at IMDB versus official but ugg, when I view it it just says "Predator" and I'm getting "The Predator" flashbacks. :-\
QuoteMeant to post this the other day from Jhane's IG 5 days ago, possibly these are horses being used for the movie.
When life is simple and beautiful!
#smoothride #ocanada🇨🇦 #comanchepov
https://www.instagram.com/p/CPv1xglrax7/
Yeah could be! Wow. This movie really has the potential of being such a different and unique Predator movie. Can't wait!
QuoteAnother confirmation that studioADI is working on Skulls
QuoteThe best crew. @thestudioadi Get ready!
Amazing shirts designed by @h2originals
Layout and art by @jordan_k_morris
https://www.instagram.com/p/CP_P64sDH4a/
Yeah. Love it or hate it, a done deal it be.
I dig the Tipi with the target on it though!
Considering today is the 34th anniversary of the release of Predator, what day would be better to release some viral marketing, logo, picture, etc from Skulls.
Quote from: ace3g on Jun 12, 2021, 03:24:00 PM
Considering today is the 34th anniversary of the release of Predator, what day would be better to release some viral marketing, logo, picture, etc from Skulls.
Ikr. Orders from the studio to keep it low key perhaps with the ongoing lawsuit?
well we got zero announcements for the Alien series on Alien day
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
Working on getting you credit ace3g.
ADI eh? Send them your signature Voodoo, asap. Make a banner out of it, camp out in front of the studio. DO SOMETHING!! XD
I like that logo, and also just seeing it referred to as "Predator V". The V goes well with the targeting laser and wigwam.
And yeah, we all pretty much figured this was the case for month now, but nice to have it officially confirmed. Fingers crossed they knock it out of the park!
Quote from: Hemi on Jun 12, 2021, 07:23:22 PM
ADI eh? Send them your signature Voodoo, asap. Make a banner out of it, camp out in front of the studio. DO SOMETHING!! XD
I know. I know. :-\
We already basically knew it back in March based on the Instagram post in this article...
https://www.avpgalaxy.net/2021/03/11/new-predator-film-skulls-pre-production-and-filming-dates-revealed/
...and I've been crying and drinking ever since.
(https://media.tenor.com/images/88de4d0d9542455f110174b2d3997158/tenor.gif)
Now I'm all out of tears, and a drunk! :laugh:
What if they decided to go the subzero/scorpion route and we don't see the bottom of the face?
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/proxy/Pdz2g2pGZQvYP8LSCp8C1-hNlLncIGityu32rD34-6AMcNrcv0LTaBR-r7i38WBQpwL5yfvxHqsO6LPvS2MVzxOqpB7Z-ME8seAKWFey)
Is this a harbinger (down) of bad effects to come? ;)
Quote from: ace3g on Jun 12, 2021, 08:08:31 PM
What if they decided to go the subzero/scorpion route and we don't see the bottom of the face?
https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/proxy/Pdz2g2pGZQvYP8LSCp8C1-hNlLncIGityu32rD34-6AMcNrcv0LTaBR-r7i38WBQpwL5yfvxHqsO6LPvS2MVzxOqpB7Z-ME8seAKWFey
Yes please! Where do I sign!
Quote from: KiramidHead on Jun 12, 2021, 08:22:59 PM
Is this a harbinger (down) of bad effects to come? ;)
(https://media2.giphy.com/media/PikjiJ3R7IOD9x8prI/giphy.gif?cid=6c09b95204f0bf7a965d84fb2b7b7eb6e0515a6978698757&rid=giphy.gif&ct=g)
(https://media2.giphy.com/media/srg19CG0cKMuI/giphy.gif?cid=6c09b952feb7e40485f8c121fff7d4d4796fceb90245ccda&rid=giphy.gif&ct=)g
(https://media3.giphy.com/media/tODygE8KCqBzy/giphy.gif)
I'm sure the guys at ADI are nice, but I can't help but hate their work, I just want Preds to have their faces done right again
Bwahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha !!!! ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
Well good luck guys at Amalgamation Dynamics, we're all counting on you.
Quote from: PAS Spinelli on Jun 12, 2021, 09:30:48 PM
I'm sure the guys at ADI are nice, but I can't help but hate their work, I just want Preds to have their faces done right again
From your lips to the Predator gods' ears, me too brother!
Quote from: XENOMORPHOSIS on Jun 12, 2021, 10:20:44 PM
Well good luck guys at Amalgamation Dynamics, we're all counting on you.
I'm actually counting more on Dan Trachtenberg, or hoping he puts more focus on, and has the ability to, reign in ADI's previous problems. It may be a fool's hope, but it's my hope!
With that said I'm rooting for ADI here too. Nothing would make me happier to be singing their praises after the film's release!
Studio ADI again.....?
Isn't there....anyone else who can do this? Get some new blood working on these creatures?
All honesty? I genuinely think they brought them back because they have the two suits from the last film, one of which Kyle Strauts actually wore. Predators are expensive costumes and it saves a ton of money that they have two of them left unused. ADI also has the AVP molds which means they'd just have to choose which incarnation of the weapons they'd want. If they're on the clock then it makes complete sense they'd use the guys who have a Predator just sitting there rather than reinvent the wheel.
Quote from: SuperiorIronman on Jun 12, 2021, 11:19:38 PM
All honesty? I genuinely think they brought them back because they have the two suits from the last film, one of which Kyle Strauts actually wore. Predators are expensive costumes and it saves a ton of money that they have two of them left unused. ADI also has the AVP molds which means they'd just have to choose which incarnation of the weapons they'd want. If they're on the clock then it makes complete sense they'd use the guys who have a Predator just sitting there rather than reinvent the wheel.
Ah, right. Saving money.
We all new this was coming but doesn't make the news any easier. Too bad, I think there's potential for this story but..... ADI. No, don't deserve another shot, never did. Far better studios out there. Safe to expect more roadside haunted house Predators. You get what you pay for. Here we go again. Garbage.
Its a shame really. I never hated the designs of the Predators from previous films. Each are unique on their own that tells a story about themselves like Scar's bulkier and more armored appearance tells of a Young Blood that trained heavily for close combat against xenomorphs and wears plenty of armor to ward off edge and acidic damage. Wolf tells of an aged hunter that favors speed and years of combat experience to make up for lack of armor. Can't hit what you can't catch right? Even with Fugitive, the high tech armor that covers a whole lot more such as the entire chest area and even is less tribal in design than previous Predators tells me that this isn't an ordinary hunt, he is hunter-warrior on a mission will complete it or die trying. Down from the tech he uses such as even having a plasmacaster in his biomask which is the first to see in the series.
Its always, however, its always the mandibles that they always screw up. Its just that one aspect that they always fall flat on and thats so infuriating. Like fresh snow under the bright moonlight and then suddenly someone decides to piss on the picture perfect snow and just ruin the image. Its just that one gripe man, just that one gripe.
From what little we've heard about the budget I don't think cheaply reusing assets will be the main reason.
IG post from crew member
QuoteI guess today's the 34th birthday of a little movie called Predator. Fast forward a bit and somehow I ended up working on one of 'em? 2021 hasn't been too bad I guess. Also I asked when I get to wear the crew shirt and everyone laughed at me. #noob #predator
and cast - Stefany
QuoteEnd of work day view.
#onlocation #actor #setlife🎥 #actorslife
__
These comments from the first IG post got my attention, maybe another visual effects company involved.
Awesome Ace! 👏
I wouldn't be surprised if another company was involved since Fugitive's armor was outsourced. Probably something like that happening again with the leftover costume getting refitted.
Quote from: SuperiorIronman on Jun 13, 2021, 01:18:33 AM
I wouldn't be surprised if another company was involved since Fugitive's armor was outsourced. Probably something like that happening again with the leftover costume getting refitted.
We're feeling rather solid that Steve Wang's Onyx Forge is involved with Skulls too. But from the Comanche & Predator apparel to the weaponry on both sides, to the Predator itself, we haven't determined officially where those responsibility dividing lines have been drawn.
The split in responsibilities last time was down to hiring quotas, wasn't it? So much percent had to be sourced in Canada?
I'm not certain of all the factors to be honest.
Just don't let ADI near the face please.
There was this interesting video by CorderyFX that provided articulate constructive criticism to the Predator's facial design and function, it'd be good if the input was provided to the effects team but NOT Thrusted upon, forced or demanded like a raging fan boy troll. We can politely provide feedback in a way we'd be taken seriously and rationally.
I think it's a bit naive to assume they're unaware of any of the feedback. You can lead a horse to your water of discontent, but you can't make it drink.
@SiL
Touché, you'd think they apply the approach how Stan Winston's crew molded the Predator's mandibles and minimal articulation seeing as that movie hadn't the biggest budget and were pressed to get the movie made in short time. It'd be ideal they considered handling it so its presentable, functioned and looked good in the final film, but your right, we can offer feed back they may not necessary put it into use.
Plenty of fans who were introduced to the franchises through AvP would say Scar ticked all of those boxes. Many people think Wolf's face does the same.
@ SiL
Been a bit mixed about how Scar's looked, came across as goofy, it was revealed by ADI to make him looked younger and more heroic so that gives context to his look being different.
Would you say Wolf's face was digitally augmented, because when I looked at clips from the film its hidden in shadow, has a smooth animated motion different from the set photo.
https://www.avpgalaxy.net/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2020/11/avpr-bluray-0994.jpg
https://i.pinimg.com/originals/c7/bc/c9/c7bcc9865772e65cd97e01aaf4a5e935.jpg
Is there anything in Requiem that isn't hidden by shadow?
Quote from: XENOMORPHOSIS on Jun 14, 2021, 12:48:50 AM
Been a bit mixed about how Scar's looked, came across as goofy, it was revealed by ADI to make him looked younger and more heroic so that gives context to his look being different.
Anderson wanted a comic-booky, "handsome" Predator, hence things like not using the monstrous looking eye contact lenses, no slime, etc.
(I personally don't think he ticked all the boxes but I'm very, very aware of people who do)..
QuoteWould you say Wolf's face was digitally augmented, because when I looked at clips from the film its hidden in shadow, has a smooth animated motion different from the set photo.
In those shots the mouth's fully extended in one and closed in the other, which accounts for most of the changes. I wouldn't be surprised if the Bros augmented his face digitally but I don't know.
This is my big thing, if you want a comic book, "handsome predator, or any other type of look that is fine but when you don't get the mandibles right ....
(https://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fpm1.narvii.com%2F6144%2F9f6b9c3119847397c2791d094755236506c8ec06_00.jpg&hash=bc26380926f0a554c38f1ba3d5aba4b77229b5dc)
Imagine if the mandibles on Scar looked like this.
(https://i.toynewsi.com/g/generated/Hot_Toys/AVP_Scar_Predator_Gallery/1000941_10151550012457344_1726033417_n__scaled_800.jpg)
Except for the elastic skin, they do.
What I strongly disliked is the too human eyes. I get trying to change the eye color for a more heroic tone but its still too open like a Disney character that you can tell that's an obvious person underneath there with eye contacts. Compare this with JH, which has a more alien look than Scar's human looking eyes.
(https://external-content.duckduckgo.com/iu/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fcdn.vox-cdn.com%2Fthumbor%2FRxaHfZFAlw4Z2jWuDt482x_uct8%3D%2F125x0%3A1475x900%2F1200x800%2Ffilters%3Afocal(125x0%3A1475x900)%2Fcdn.vox-cdn.com%2Fuploads%2Fchorus_image%2Fimage%2F41381302%2Fpredator.0.0.jpg&f=1&nofb=1)
They say the eyes are the window into the soul, and I can see an alien menace behind JH while Scar is just an obvious dude with contact lenses.
Anderson had some dumb requests.
Anderson's Beauty and the Beast
(https://s6.gifyu.com/images/a28c62b8f3017f08c611a39bd1821781.gif)
Basically.
Even the dreaded skin folds are only there to accommodate comically expanded mandibles, which start in AvP and just keep going. If they didn't have to stretch that much (and on multiple takes), the excess material wouldn't need to be there.
Quote from: SiL on Jun 14, 2021, 03:00:32 AM
Except for the elastic skin, they do.
That's plainly not true. Look at the bottom set in this case being below the chin instead of aligned with them because it's not going for that recognisable "X shape" it means it both looks more humanoid and less big square headed. In fact I'd say the entire head shape's more elegant and heroic than the film iteration.
Scar's mandibles are also shown below the chin when not looking up at him with his mandibles folded closed. Those shots aren't comparing like for like.
(https://www.figures.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=163861&d=1392045166)
(https://i.imgur.com/4k9nU0O.jpg)
(https://images.saymedia-content.com/.image/t_share/MTc2NDI3MzcyOTk1MDI4MTU4/avplexandscar.png)
(https://i.ytimg.com/vi/TNg1YTsa7SA/hqdefault.jpg)
(https://www.avpgalaxy.net/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2020/11/avp2004-bluray-839.jpg)
Not really the same shape and you can see that with when the mouth's open and the connecting skin being straight instead of curved. And the fact on the film iteration the mandibles sit parallel to each other. Whereas on the figure they sit at diagonals.
The third and fourth show the mandibles below the chin. Skin elasticity I addressed.
I'd say the eyes are a more significant difference between the two, especially the brow. But we're comparing a static model to a dynamic mask.
As for positioning, Scar's mandibles are capable of the correct position and BTS shots show similar posing (especially static stunt masks).
His shape isn't really the problem, it's how he was animated.
Barely below though nowhere near what the figure actually depicts. And yes as I said the whole shape's more slender and elegant. More favourably proportioned basically.
They appear that low when they're lowered. Again, you're comparing dynamic vs static.
The head is more slender overall, which is the biggest difference. Not the mandibles.
That's incorrect, look at the closed mouth Hot Toys figure, the teeth only come out of the gum around where the bottom of the chin starts.
https://youtu.be/LDejkHT0dxY
Nowhere do I see that even coming close to being the case with Scar on film, or him being capable of it, when he dies being the closest he gets.
And now you're comparing the final look with what it was capable of, which is why I specified BTS.
I really don't feel this is worth this much energy. Scar's got plenty of things to pick on, nobody's questioning that.
I had a look:
https://youtu.be/M4pXjb3iRM4
https://youtu.be/1Q9V_1aXe2w
https://youtu.be/LWkE6EI4HEc
Still not the case in any of them I can see anyway, at best even hanging, it's nowhere near what's depicted on the figure.
Because, again, the figure is a static model and you're looking to try to match it from a more dynamic face seen from often radically different angles.
Also again, not really feeling this is worth the energy.
Or because what you claim's not the case even when that's taken into account.
Show me two shots that actually share the same posing and we can go from there.
https://propstoreauction.com/view-auctions/catalog/id/44/lot/9354/
Will this do fine?
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(https://s3-eu-west-1.amazonaws.com/content.propstore.com/auction/la2016/listings/lot27/img12.jpg)
(https://www.figures.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=163861&d=1392045166)
I will admit to being dead wrong about the fact the Hot Toys figure's indeed going for that "X shape" after all.
Quote
That's plainly not true. Look at the bottom set in this case being below the chin instead of aligned with them because it's going for that recognisable "X shape" it means it both looks more humanoid and less big square headed. In fact I'd say the entire head shape's more elegant and heroic than the film iteration.
I got this backwards: I'd actually say in retrospect the difference's more visible when you look at the cheekbones and Hot Toys' much closer alignment with their mandibles to them. In addition to just making the inner mandible proportionally smaller and the outer mandibles slightly larger.
I was right about the lower mandibles though :laugh:
Their upper mandibles are larger when you compare them like that and it seems to balance it out better though.
Yes you were indeed.
God I hate that gigantic chin
I wonder how much of that was just design and how much of it was accommodating Ian Whyte's face shape.
No offence to Ian but he does have quite the long face
Back on task, some Calgary imagery from cinematographer Jeff Cutter.
Quote from: ace3g on Jun 15, 2021, 03:06:22 AM
Back on task, some Calgary imagery from cinematographer Jeff Cutter.
Nice. Where did you find that?
His IG story from the looks of it. :)
Quote from: Corporal Hicks on Jun 15, 2021, 12:11:58 PM
His IG story from the looks of it. :)
Turns out I'm actually following him on IG. 😅
:laugh:
Hoo boy, this getweven worse.
I hope the creators win that lawsuit...
Heard That
Here are some names (and their IG links) with Native American backgrounds that have been recently followed by at least 3 of these 4: Dan Trachtenberg, Kyle Strauts, Amber Midthunder, and Stefany Mathias.
Skye Pelletier-Okimaw - https://www.instagram.com/skye_pe/
Tymon Carter - https://www.instagram.com/tymoncarter_/
Harlo Khat - https://www.instagram.com/harlo_khat/
Quannah Chasinghorse - https://www.instagram.com/quannah.rose/
Do not want to see a Native American cast be shut down but also do not want Disney to win. The conflict is real.
Quote from: ace3g on Jun 16, 2021, 02:40:37 AM
Here are some names (and their IG links) with Native American backgrounds that have been recently followed by at least 3 of these 4: Dan Trachtenberg, Kyle Strauts, Amber Midthunder, and Stefany Mathias.
Skye Pelletier-Okimaw - https://www.instagram.com/skye_pe/
Tymon Carter - https://www.instagram.com/tymoncarter_/
Harlo Khat - https://www.instagram.com/harlo_khat/
Quannah Chasinghorse - https://www.instagram.com/quannah.rose/
Great detective work Ace! 👏 I knew about Quannah but the others were new to me.
Damn, this supporting cast just excites me. Hopefully Amber brings her A game!
Latest IG stories from Kyle Strauts
Quote from: ace3g on Jun 16, 2021, 10:26:20 PM
Latest IG stories from Kyle Strauts
I watched The Revenant for the first time yesterday (late I know). I hope Skulls looks as good as that did. The cinematography and look of the landscapes was fantastic and exactly what a Predator film needs.
I can look at pictures of Alberta all day!
I dig the colors 👀
Nice!
Quote from: ace3g on Jun 19, 2021, 02:51:02 AM
Fan poster
https://www.instagram.com/p/CQO8rGJnq9R/
That is so damn cool!
Except for me wanting the title to remain Skulls, I wish it was official!
I take it they've actually started production now and are filming on location?
Quote from: goose_3387 on Jun 20, 2021, 08:34:06 AM
I take it they've actually started production now and are filming on location?
That's the assumption!
Everything is so calm...
Quote from: BigDaddyJohn on Jun 20, 2021, 04:10:54 PM
Everything is so calm...
Maybe it will be like Doctor Strange sequel, where no true set photos were ever released.
Quote from: Voodoo Magic on Jun 20, 2021, 12:53:17 PM
Quote from: goose_3387 on Jun 20, 2021, 08:34:06 AM
I take it they've actually started production now and are filming on location?
That's the assumption!
Hopefully see something soon. When is the new court date set for? Can't see any sort of announcement until after that.
New IG stories from Strauts
Quote from: ace3g on Jun 20, 2021, 09:57:37 PM
New IG stories from Strauts
Thanks for posting Ace!
That second shot is gorgeous!
Quote from: goose_3387 on Jun 20, 2021, 04:59:03 PM
Quote from: Voodoo Magic on Jun 20, 2021, 12:53:17 PM
Quote from: goose_3387 on Jun 20, 2021, 08:34:06 AM
I take it they've actually started production now and are filming on location?
That's the assumption!
Hopefully see something soon. When is the new court date set for? Can't see any sort of announcement until after that.
July 8th Conference. No Motion for Preliminary Injunction Hearing scheduled that I can tell. 👍
Quote from: Voodoo Magic on Jun 21, 2021, 02:15:13 PM
Quote from: ace3g on Jun 20, 2021, 09:57:37 PM
New IG stories from Strauts
Thanks for posting Ace!
That second shot is gorgeous!
Quote from: goose_3387 on Jun 20, 2021, 04:59:03 PM
Quote from: Voodoo Magic on Jun 20, 2021, 12:53:17 PM
Quote from: goose_3387 on Jun 20, 2021, 08:34:06 AM
I take it they've actually started production now and are filming on location?
That's the assumption!
Hopefully see something soon. When is the new court date set for? Can't see any sort of announcement until after that.
July 8th Conference. No Motion for Preliminary Injunction Hearing scheduled that I can tell. 👍
Just wish we had an answer now. 😅
Quote from: Voodoo Magic on Jun 20, 2021, 12:53:17 PM
Quote from: goose_3387 on Jun 20, 2021, 08:34:06 AM
I take it they've actually started production now and are filming on location?
That's the assumption!
Pictures Parker! Get me pictures!
Yes, an official first set photo would be very nice!
Quote from: ace3g on Jun 20, 2021, 09:57:37 PM
New IG stories from Strauts
That riverbank photo is beautiful though :o
The location still kind of puzzles me. Is it historically accurate?
Quote from: Voodoo Magic on Jun 21, 2021, 05:28:29 PM
Yes, an official first set photo would be very nice!
As other's have suggested, I'm guessing we won't get anything official until there's sort of clarity on the legal action
Shirt (could also be chair) from one of the motion cap FX crew.
Curious when we'll see the first leaked Predator suit photo... unless they've got a tighter eye on things since the last two movies.
We probably won't see preds in camo pants, and that's a good thing.
I still expect to see the Emissary show up as this film's Predator though.
Quote from: Corporal Hicks on Jun 22, 2021, 12:01:57 PM
I still expect to see the Emissary show up as this film's Predator though.
Hope you're joking?! 😳😬
That thing looked awful.
Sometimes I think he says that to make me crazy. :D
Quote from: Wysps on Jun 21, 2021, 06:22:54 PM
The location still kind of puzzles me. Is it historically accurate?
From what I understand, the Comanche were never in Canada, but rather the Southern portion of North America.
But as many of the movies filmed in cost effective Canada, it's locations are meant to mirror another region and doesn't necessarily mean the story is supposed to take place in Canada.
Quote from: Doomofman on Jun 21, 2021, 07:49:00 PM
Quote from: Voodoo Magic on Jun 21, 2021, 05:28:29 PM
Yes, an official first set photo would be very nice!
As other's have suggested, I'm guessing we won't get anything official until there's sort of clarity on the legal action
Filming of Skulls will likely be long since completed before the trial is completed, provided it goes to trial of course.
Quote from: Corporal Hicks on Jun 22, 2021, 12:01:57 PM
I still expect to see the Emissary show up as this film's Predator though.
Bite your tongue Hicks!!!
I can live with a reuse of the bodies, but hopefully Dan Trachtenberg would never stand for a reuse of these faces!
(https://i.ibb.co/fFc49pX/emissary.png)
(https://i.ibb.co/Qpy5Y3B/predator-evolution-11-701x394.png)
Still find it hard to believe that design was given the OK from the concept to producing the final suit. Absolute turd! 💩
They're probably going to replace the head given I can't imagine the latex has held up well after three years and whatever it went through on set last time. Though I'd like if they did reuse some design elements of them since I really like the textured dreadlocks and I liked how one of them had the head designed after Pumpkin head as a callback to Stan Winston.
The Emissary are meant to be sort of Predator scientists. They're not as intimidating since they're the guys more focused on building stuff. They'd actually been a bit slender and even more mellow looking earlier on but Fox made them bit bulk them up. They weren't meant to look anything like other Predators due to this.
Quote from: Voodoo Magic on Jun 22, 2021, 01:20:07 PM
Sometimes I think he says that to make me crazy. :D
Quote from: Wysps on Jun 21, 2021, 06:22:54 PM
The location still kind of puzzles me. Is it historically accurate?
From what I understand, the Comanche were never in Canada, but rather the Southern portion of North America.
But as many of the movies filmed in cost effective Canada, it's locations are meant to mirror another region and doesn't necessarily mean the story is supposed to take place in Canada.
Quote from: Doomofman on Jun 21, 2021, 07:49:00 PM
Quote from: Voodoo Magic on Jun 21, 2021, 05:28:29 PM
Yes, an official first set photo would be very nice!
As other's have suggested, I'm guessing we won't get anything official until there's sort of clarity on the legal action
Filming of Skulls will likely be long since completed before the trial is completed, provided it goes to trial of course.
Quote from: Corporal Hicks on Jun 22, 2021, 12:01:57 PM
I still expect to see the Emissary show up as this film's Predator though.
Bite your tongue Hicks!!!
I can live with a reuse of the bodies, but hopefully Dan Trachtenberg would never stand for a reuse of these faces!
https://i.ibb.co/fFc49pX/emissary.png
https://i.ibb.co/Qpy5Y3B/predator-evolution-11-701x394.png
What's wrong with the first face?
Quote from: Hudson on Jun 22, 2021, 02:51:12 PM
Quote from: Voodoo Magic on Jun 22, 2021, 01:20:07 PM
Sometimes I think he says that to make me crazy. :D
Quote from: Wysps on Jun 21, 2021, 06:22:54 PM
The location still kind of puzzles me. Is it historically accurate?
From what I understand, the Comanche were never in Canada, but rather the Southern portion of North America.
But as many of the movies filmed in cost effective Canada, it's locations are meant to mirror another region and doesn't necessarily mean the story is supposed to take place in Canada.
Quote from: Doomofman on Jun 21, 2021, 07:49:00 PM
Quote from: Voodoo Magic on Jun 21, 2021, 05:28:29 PM
Yes, an official first set photo would be very nice!
As other's have suggested, I'm guessing we won't get anything official until there's sort of clarity on the legal action
Filming of Skulls will likely be long since completed before the trial is completed, provided it goes to trial of course.
Quote from: Corporal Hicks on Jun 22, 2021, 12:01:57 PM
I still expect to see the Emissary show up as this film's Predator though.
Bite your tongue Hicks!!!
I can live with a reuse of the bodies, but hopefully Dan Trachtenberg would never stand for a reuse of these faces!
https://i.ibb.co/fFc49pX/emissary.png
https://i.ibb.co/Qpy5Y3B/predator-evolution-11-701x394.png
What's wrong with the first face?
For me, the gigantic lower mandibles, the oversized lower jaw, the huge and overly spaced out teeth on the lower jaw, the weird low slope the dreads seem to follow, the big space between the eyes and the upper 'lip'
In the end it's subjective really but those are the biggest things that stand out to me as differences to the OG predator face
So, by this EXACT logic, you also don't like the face in Predator 2?
And by exact logic, I mean the face being physically different, not all the literal details you just mentioned.
EDIT:
FWIW, the second example of the emissary face looks dumb to me, but that's because it looks like a sadboi when I thought the predators were supposed to be the monsters.
For me, the proportion is way off. It's a no-neck bobble-head. Just look at the eyes of the actor in those slots compared to the size of the head. The thing is oversized like a space helmet.
(https://i.ibb.co/QP5ptNW/Screenshot-20210622-111205-Gallery.jpg)
(https://i.ibb.co/Fmz4fJW/Screenshot-20210622-105844-Gallery.jpg)
And for all the reasons below.
(https://i.ibb.co/2nBXBNZ/20210119-152058.jpg)
These are also low-res production photos that aren't being presented the way the design would be presented on film. It's not a fair judgement call in that sense.
Quote from: Hudson on Jun 22, 2021, 03:12:07 PM
So, by this EXACT logic, you also don't like the face in Predator 2?
And by exact logic, I mean the face being physically different, not all the literal details you just mentioned.
The first film is the only time they have got the face 100% right. The did such a good job that no-one has been able to replicate it since (in terms of realism and movement).
Quote from: goose_3387 on Jun 22, 2021, 03:16:58 PM
Quote from: Hudson on Jun 22, 2021, 03:12:07 PM
So, by this EXACT logic, you also don't like the face in Predator 2?
And by exact logic, I mean the face being physically different, not all the literal details you just mentioned.
The first film is the only time they have got the face 100% right. The did such a good job that no-one has been able to replicate it since (in terms of realism and movement).
So every instance of a different design being used, or a variation on the original design, there's a percentage of the face being
wrong, is what you're saying?
Quote(https://i.ibb.co/2nBXBNZ/20210119-152058.jpg)
Have you sent this to Fox yet?
Quote from: Hudson on Jun 22, 2021, 03:18:09 PM
Quote from: goose_3387 on Jun 22, 2021, 03:16:58 PM
Quote from: Hudson on Jun 22, 2021, 03:12:07 PM
So, by this EXACT logic, you also don't like the face in Predator 2?
And by exact logic, I mean the face being physically different, not all the literal details you just mentioned.
The first film is the only time they have got the face 100% right. The did such a good job that no-one has been able to replicate it since (in terms of realism and movement).
So every instance of a different design being used, or a variation on the original design, there's a percentage of the face being wrong, is what you're saying?
Design is different from execution.
I mentioned it a few days ago - the original Pred looks like a real life alien. Looks more real than it looks like a guy in a suit.
ADI needs to allocate more budget towards KY to make their Preds look properly slimy.
:laugh:
Quote from: Hudson on Jun 22, 2021, 03:15:46 PM
These are also low-res production photos that aren't being presented the way the design would be presented on film. It's not a fair judgement call in that sense.
The resolution is just fine to me. Plus for me, I found the bobble-head proportion trouble already with the Fugitive Predator on screen to make a confident personal assessment with this Emissary, plus other issues...
(https://i.ibb.co/j6S0hDv/IMG-20210613-141515.jpg)
Performance and puppeteer work is definitely part of the recipe, but when you have odd folds, rolls and skin pockets not on the maquette but on your final product, the problem can't be dismissed solely to improper resolution.
(https://i.ibb.co/nj4HpJ2/20210414-102511-1-1-1.gif)
(https://i.ibb.co/hy7JxHF/20210318-195010.gif)
(https://i.ibb.co/4gG9CYV/20210321-102513-1-4.gif)
If you like it my friend, that is absolutely cool. :) But I think it's unfair to think people crazy for greatly missing Stan Winston's work or believe they don't give valid reasons to dislike what came after it:
(https://i.ibb.co/xjfhWjd/tumblr-nl7pj5-D1n-C1u1vwpho2-500-1.gif)
(https://i.ibb.co/kqpQkWZ/tumblr-or8kgl-RR9l1rp0vkjo1-500.gif)
Cheers! :)
A day is not the same without Voodoo Magic complaining about Crabators
I can see those folds you don't like on the Predator 2 face as well.
Quote from: Kradan on Jun 22, 2021, 04:32:37 PM
A day is not the same without Voodoo Magic complaining about Crabators
Also, it just hit me: Voodoo, instead of going through the trouble of posting all these ADI Preds pics why don't you just adopt using this clip ?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=62UzLgdb1GQ (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=62UzLgdb1GQ)
Quote from: KiramidHead on Jun 22, 2021, 04:33:18 PM
I can see those folds you don't like on the Predator 2 face as well.
It's like saying there're wrinkles on God's face
Quote from: Kradan on Jun 22, 2021, 04:32:37 PM
A day is not the same without Voodoo Magic complaining about Crabators
It's almost like Voodoo is Anakin and Crabators are sand.... ;D
Quote from: KiramidHead on Jun 22, 2021, 04:33:18 PM
I can see those folds you don't like on the Predator 2 face as well.
Yes sir, to a smaller degree,
indeed:Quote from: Voodoo Magic on Jun 14, 2021, 08:07:37 PM
Oh without a doubt. Especially with pausing, there has always been a slight roll or fold in both Jungle Hunter & City Hunter to find. Even in the shots we love to post...
But we're really talking apple seeds to watermelons here. And none of the Winston skin fold in opposite directions, or become loops, creating holes that can be filled with cannoli cream! :D (I think I have my new gif idea!)
Quote from: Voodoo Magic on Jun 22, 2021, 05:10:28 PM
Quote from: Kradan on Jun 22, 2021, 04:32:37 PM
A day is not the same without Voodoo Magic complaining about Crabators
It's almost like Voodoo is Anakin and Crabators are sand.... ;D
What does that make me ?
Spoiler
Sandy the Squirrel ?
(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/a/a0/Sandy_Cheeks.svg/1200px-Sandy_Cheeks.svg.png)
Spoiler
(https://media0.giphy.com/media/5x89XRx3sBZFC/giphy.gif)
:D
Hmm. Does "Title Character" perhaps confirm Kyle is playing the sole Predator, or at least the main one? Guess we'll find out.
(https://i.ibb.co/kSTMrvk/Screenshot-20210622-164855-Facebook.jpg)
He plays a skull. RIP Kyle. :laugh:
Quote from: KiramidHead on Jun 23, 2021, 01:28:06 AM
He plays a skull. RIP Kyle. :laugh:
He's playing Joshua Jackson
Do we know how big a role Kyle had in The Predator? Cause I liked the Fugitive predator a lot in the limited screen time he had.
He mostly played one of the emmissaries, but he possibly played Fugitive for a couple of scenes, I don't remember for sure.
He did pre-reshoot mo-cap for Upgrade iirc too.
Hopefully we come away from Skulls declaring Kyle as the next best thing to KPH! 🤞
Quote from: Corporal Hicks on Jul 05, 2021, 09:49:56 AM
He did pre-reshoot mo-cap for Upgrade iirc too.
seeing this and the mo-cap guys standing in for the dogs was hilarious during the test screening
So, no female Pred?
Quote from: PAS Spinelli on Jul 06, 2021, 07:47:03 PM
So, no female Pred?
Still too early to tell, I think. We don't know if there is one Predator, multiple Predators, or even if Kyle himself could be playing a female Predator. We'll just have to wait and see. :)
Quote from: Voodoo Magic on Jul 06, 2021, 07:53:49 PM
... if Kyle himself could be playing a female Predator.
(https://i.imgur.com/TpAIU25.gif?noredirect)
Oh man, clickbait articles would be practically writing themselves if that will turn out to be the case. I would expect lots of people not being OK with a MAN playing a FEMALE Predator
My man !
Quote from: Kradan on Jul 07, 2021, 05:10:16 PM
Quote from: Voodoo Magic on Jul 06, 2021, 07:53:49 PM
... if Kyle himself could be playing a female Predator.
https://i.imgur.com/TpAIU25.gif?noredirect
Oh man, clickbait articles would be practically writing themselves if that will turn out to be the case. I would expect lots of people not being OK with a MAN playing a FEMALE Predator
Well, it's a creature suit, so the only thing that matters is the physical capabilities of the actor. Given the supposed size and weight of the creatures, a male actor would be a logical choice.
Production still in progress
Quote from: ace3g on Jul 07, 2021, 11:04:49 PM
Production still in progress
https://www.instagram.com/p/CRCNvFHJYkC/
Not understanding the need to still be vague. "Working on something new." Is it perhaps the lawsuit preventing them from officially saying production for Skulls has started? Or, maybe, production has stopped and he literally is working on something new but with some of the same people. He's worked with Jeff Cutter many times along with Vought International (The Boys?)
He posted this on Twitter as well and someone seems to have posted a video of what looks like him going through a car chase scene with stunt coordinators. Maybe an old video for when he was doing Langdon? The Boys? Man, things have just been too quiet that it's making me nervous and paranoid. 🤣😭
I wonder what this is being used for during production?
https://www.instagram.com/stories/dd/2612691434297461572/
Another deductive reasoning hint that Dane DiLiegro is part of the cast; both him and Kyle Strauts posted IG stories in a vehicle driving out of heavy rain.
Generating 3D assets (textures, 3D models, etc). I'm guessing of cast (and creatures?) for digital stunt doubles, tracking, God knows what else in post production.
Quote from: Huggs on Jul 07, 2021, 10:50:12 PM
Quote from: Kradan on Jul 07, 2021, 05:10:16 PM
Quote from: Voodoo Magic on Jul 06, 2021, 07:53:49 PM
... if Kyle himself could be playing a female Predator.
https://i.imgur.com/TpAIU25.gif?noredirect
Oh man, clickbait articles would be practically writing themselves if that will turn out to be the case. I would expect lots of people not being OK with a MAN playing a FEMALE Predator
Well, it's a creature suit, so the only thing that matters is the physical capabilities of the actor. Given the supposed size and weight of the creatures, a male actor would be a logical choice.
Well, I'm not certainly gonna be the one to be bothered by it. But I'd imagine there're bunch of people who would get serious butt-hurt from it
Man. now I want this to happen just to see the reaction
Some people just like to watch the world burn. I'm sure there would be, but I wouldn't wanna see the reaction. Personally, they've all been female Predators in my head.
Are you calling me an agent of chaos ? I'm flattered :D
I can't figure out where you coming from with whole "they've all been female" though
Quote from: Huggs on Jul 07, 2021, 10:50:12 PM
Quote from: Kradan on Jul 07, 2021, 05:10:16 PM
Quote from: Voodoo Magic on Jul 06, 2021, 07:53:49 PM
... if Kyle himself could be playing a female Predator.
https://i.imgur.com/TpAIU25.gif?noredirect
Oh man, clickbait articles would be practically writing themselves if that will turn out to be the case. I would expect lots of people not being OK with a MAN playing a FEMALE Predator
Well, it's a creature suit, so the only thing that matters is the physical capabilities of the actor. Given the supposed size and weight of the creatures, a male actor would be a logical choice.
I would agree, even with a prosthetic added curvature to match a humanoid female.
But I do agree with Kradan that some people still would go bonkers over it. :-\
Quote from: Proteus on Jul 08, 2021, 12:42:13 AM
Quote from: ace3g on Jul 07, 2021, 11:04:49 PM
Production still in progress
Not understanding the need to still be vague. "Working on something new." Is it perhaps the lawsuit preventing them from officially saying production for Skulls has started? Or, maybe, production has stopped and he literally is working on something new but with some of the same people. He's worked with Jeff Cutter many times along with Vought International (The Boys?)
He posted this on Twitter as well and someone seems to have posted a video of what looks like him going through a car chase scene with stunt coordinators. Maybe an old video for when he was doing Langdon? The Boys? Man, things have just been too quiet that it's making me nervous and paranoid. 🤣😭
(https://i.ibb.co/vc2yrzY/Screenshot-20210708-095202-Instagram.jpg)
It very well might be studio mandated that no one can make an official announcement until 20th Century and possibly Hulu announces it, which honestly might not even involve the lawsuit.
But I do think some are getting easily confused by this post. Danny wrote:
Quote"I'm currently sitting in the same position on a similar chair next to the same dude (@jeff cutter) on a new thing. Pic unearthed by @tysonbreuer"
What Danny is saying is this old picture unearthed by Tyson featuring Director Dan Trachtenberg and Cinematographer Jeff Cutter sitting together on an old film, is mirroring how they are sitting now while working on Skulls, aka the "new thing". We've already seen Jeff Cutter tag #Skullsmovie and post Predator cookies. They wouldn't have time in one month to sit together and be starting a whole new different movie with car chases. So it's all good. :)
@Proteus
https://twitter.com/DannyTRS/status/1413145902919819269?
Quote from: Kradan on Jul 08, 2021, 08:51:32 AM
Are you calling me an agent of chaos ? I'm flattered :D
I can't figure out where you coming from with whole "they've all been female" though
A lot of the comic books and novels in the past have portrayed the females as looking identical to the males. My own headcanon, and several others' on the forum, is that a Predator or two in the movies have been female because of that lack of dimorphism in previous portrayals.
Quote from: Proteus on Jul 08, 2021, 12:42:13 AM
Quote from: ace3g on Jul 07, 2021, 11:04:49 PM
Production still in progress
https://www.instagram.com/p/CRCNvFHJYkC/
Not understanding the need to still be vague. "Working on something new." Is it perhaps the lawsuit preventing them from officially saying production for Skulls has started? Or, maybe, production has stopped and he literally is working on something new but with some of the same people. He's worked with Jeff Cutter many times along with Vought International (The Boys?)
He posted this on Twitter as well and someone seems to have posted a video of what looks like him going through a car chase scene with stunt coordinators. Maybe an old video for when he was doing Langdon? The Boys? Man, things have just been too quiet that it's making me nervous and paranoid. 🤣😭
I'd like to think that he's being more tight lipped because of the lawsuit, rather than him being coy for coy's sake. The cat's out of the bag at this point, so I wouldn't understand the whole coyness angle if that was his game.
Without us getting into the forever unresolved Shakespearean debate.... Boobs or No Boobs, That is the Question! on the Predator, I'm still digging what Predator Hunting Grounds has given us in current canon. ;)
(https://cdnb.artstation.com/p/assets/images/images/031/720/261/large/ivan-dedov-front-fem-scout-unmasked.jpg?1604411875)
Yep, looks fine to me
(https://i.pinimg.com/originals/15/3f/77/153f77b5994062410f76acc96ea57a79.gif)
Yeah, that looks cool. It's immediately obvious that a) it's a predator and b) it's female. And it doesn't look like someone's creepy rule 34 fantasy
Quote from: Voodoo Magic on Jul 08, 2021, 04:48:30 PM
Without us getting into the forever unresolved Shakespearean debate.... Boobs or No Boobs, That is the Question! on the Predator, I'm still digging what Predator Hunting Grounds has given us in current canon. ;)
(https://cdnb.artstation.com/p/assets/images/images/031/720/261/large/ivan-dedov-front-fem-scout-unmasked.jpg?1604411875)
Boobs, we need Female Yautja and to see Yiatja Prime in more detail. This would make Skulls stand out, like a skull hanging on a removed spinal column. ;)
Hmm creature FX actor Dane DiLiegro "deductively" linked with film learning horseback riding.
Some more deductive reasoning breaking news:
I noticed that Dane was recently followed by actor Stormee Kipp. In Kipp's recent IG post he has a video from his TikTok page that shows both Amber Midthunder and Skye Pelletier-Okimaw (who I have deductively linked with film previously) in the video.
Kipp's IG page: https://www.instagram.com/stormtrooper.2/
Kipp's TikTok page: https://www.tiktok.com/@stormeeleekipp?lang=en&is_copy_url=1&is_from_webapp=v1
Quote from: Voodoo Magic on Jul 08, 2021, 04:48:30 PM
Without us getting into the forever unresolved Shakespearean debate.... Boobs or No Boobs, That is the Question! on the Predator, I'm still digging what Predator Hunting Grounds has given us in current canon. ;)
(https://cdnb.artstation.com/p/assets/images/images/031/720/261/large/ivan-dedov-front-fem-scout-unmasked.jpg?1604411875)
I don't want to see a pred female in the movies, it's again humanizing the predator and humanizing the predator
is always a bad move that makes it relatable to the viewer.Let's keep the details, the mytho unknown because less is more.
A pred female wearing a bra :laugh: this is sooo human.
Quote from: Yautja888 on Jul 10, 2021, 03:38:44 PM
Quote from: Voodoo Magic on Jul 08, 2021, 04:48:30 PM
Without us getting into the forever unresolved Shakespearean debate.... Boobs or No Boobs, That is the Question! on the Predator, I'm still digging what Predator Hunting Grounds has given us in current canon. ;)
(https://cdnb.artstation.com/p/assets/images/images/031/720/261/large/ivan-dedov-front-fem-scout-unmasked.jpg?1604411875)
I don't want to see a pred female in the movies, it's again humanizing the predator and humanizing the predator
is always a bad move that makes it relatable to the viewer.Let's keep the details, the mytho unknown because less is more.
A pred female wearing a bra :laugh: this is sooo human.
The predator is literally a dude in a suit. It's a humanoid design so it's already humanized. The predator has a 6-pack and pecs and two arms and two legs muscled almost exactly like humans do. It wears a loincloth to keep it's genitals covered. But somehow the idea that a vertebrate species would have two genders is somehow the thing that would humanize it?
Have to agree with this ^
Let alone other commonalities like the items it uses like spears, syringes, clamps that resembles humans', etc.
Quote from: Yautja888 on Jul 10, 2021, 03:38:44 PM
Quote from: Voodoo Magic on Jul 08, 2021, 04:48:30 PM
Without us getting into the forever unresolved Shakespearean debate.... Boobs or No Boobs, That is the Question! on the Predator, I'm still digging what Predator Hunting Grounds has given us in current canon. ;)
(https://cdnb.artstation.com/p/assets/images/images/031/720/261/large/ivan-dedov-front-fem-scout-unmasked.jpg?1604411875)
I don't want to see a pred female in the movies, it's again humanizing the predator and humanizing the predator
is always a bad move that makes it relatable to the viewer.Let's keep the details, the mytho unknown because less is more.
A pred female wearing a bra :laugh: this is sooo human.
Nobody wants to lose a titty in combat.
I didn't know where to ask this, is Skulls still in production during legal situation over The Predator rights?
Yep, it is currently in production from what we can tell. :)
I assume, judging from the court date, that production will be completed (at least in terms of shooting anyway) well before that date ever hits. Could they release it if everything was done before the court date?
Quote from: Doomofman on Jul 10, 2021, 04:28:29 PM
Quote from: Yautja888 on Jul 10, 2021, 03:38:44 PM
Quote from: Voodoo Magic on Jul 08, 2021, 04:48:30 PM
Without us getting into the forever unresolved Shakespearean debate.... Boobs or No Boobs, That is the Question! on the Predator, I'm still digging what Predator Hunting Grounds has given us in current canon. ;)
(https://cdnb.artstation.com/p/assets/images/images/031/720/261/large/ivan-dedov-front-fem-scout-unmasked.jpg?1604411875)
I don't want to see a pred female in the movies, it's again humanizing the predator and humanizing the predator
is always a bad move that makes it relatable to the viewer.Let's keep the details, the mytho unknown because less is more.
A pred female wearing a bra :laugh: this is sooo human.
The predator is literally a dude in a suit. It's a humanoid design so it's already humanized. The predator has a 6-pack and pecs and two arms and two legs muscled almost exactly like humans do. It wears a loincloth to keep it's genitals covered. But somehow the idea that a vertebrate species would have two genders is somehow the thing that would humanize it?
I think the issue most people have (who have an issue with it) is that just slapping tits on it is boring and cringe.
#berserkerpredswerefemale
Quote from: Doomofman on Jul 10, 2021, 04:28:29 PM
Quote from: Yautja888 on Jul 10, 2021, 03:38:44 PM
Quote from: Voodoo Magic on Jul 08, 2021, 04:48:30 PM
Without us getting into the forever unresolved Shakespearean debate.... Boobs or No Boobs, That is the Question! on the Predator, I'm still digging what Predator Hunting Grounds has given us in current canon. ;)
(https://cdnb.artstation.com/p/assets/images/images/031/720/261/large/ivan-dedov-front-fem-scout-unmasked.jpg?1604411875)
I don't want to see a pred female in the movies, it's again humanizing the predator and humanizing the predator
is always a bad move that makes it relatable to the viewer.Let's keep the details, the mytho unknown because less is more.
A pred female wearing a bra :laugh: this is sooo human.
The predator is literally a dude in a suit. It's a humanoid design so it's already humanized. The predator has a 6-pack and pecs and two arms and two legs muscled almost exactly like humans do. It wears a loincloth to keep it's genitals covered. But somehow the idea that a vertebrate species would have two genders is somehow the thing that would humanize it?
Perhaps Yautja/ Predators reproduce asexually like the Drac race in "Enemy Mine" (1985).
(https://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2F%3D%2520https%3A%2F%2Fscontent-sjc3-1.xx.fbcdn.net%2Fv%2Ft39.30808-6%2Ffr%2Fcp0%2Fe15%2Fq65%2F215956407_335325461415950_8408606278123180252_n.jpg%3F_nc_cat%3D111%26amp%3Bccb%3D1-3%26amp%3B_nc_sid%3D110474%26amp%3Befg%3DeyJpIjoidCJ9%26amp%3B_nc_ohc%3D_m4b0tnAcz8AX8-l9PS%26amp%3B_nc_oc%3DAQmSwCbsQD-mRKGIHXzlQUdZtXlo9idPDvwHFkYjcfotkR9RtL2y3wRlT1076H-PdWQ%26amp%3B_nc_ht%3Dscontent-sjc3-1.xx%26amp%3Boh%3D5182b2e56ebdab4e37fc3ffd55bd3206%26amp%3Boe%3D60EF9492%255D&hash=1197e1a296cda6eff61e146e036961544e5f65d9)
What if the Upgrade was female? :laugh:
Perhaps human females are the Predator's wives? Which would explain some of the more humanoid characteristics.
Quote from: City Hunter Yautja on Jul 11, 2021, 11:10:20 PM
Perhaps human females are the Predator's wives? Which would explain some of the more humanoid characteristics.
Let's just not and say we did.
Quote from: Doomofman on Jul 10, 2021, 04:28:29 PM
Quote from: Yautja888 on Jul 10, 2021, 03:38:44 PM
Quote from: Voodoo Magic on Jul 08, 2021, 04:48:30 PM
Without us getting into the forever unresolved Shakespearean debate.... Boobs or No Boobs, That is the Question! on the Predator, I'm still digging what Predator Hunting Grounds has given us in current canon. ;)
(https://cdnb.artstation.com/p/assets/images/images/031/720/261/large/ivan-dedov-front-fem-scout-unmasked.jpg?1604411875)
I don't want to see a pred female in the movies, it's again humanizing the predator and humanizing the predator
is always a bad move that makes it relatable to the viewer.Let's keep the details, the mytho unknown because less is more.
A pred female wearing a bra :laugh: this is sooo human.
The predator is literally a dude in a suit. It's a humanoid design so it's already humanized. The predator has a 6-pack and pecs and two arms and two legs muscled almost exactly like humans do. It wears a loincloth to keep it's genitals covered. But somehow the idea that a vertebrate species would have two genders is somehow the thing that would humanize it?
What this guy said.
I do think seeing Predator juveniles (children) being trained by adults in how to hunt wound be neat regardless if the Yuatja/ Preds are asexual or have wives.
You know young Preds would be cute. Perhaps are very own Babyoda (Grogu) moment! :)
Recent IG stories from Kyle Strauts
Quote from: City Hunter Yautja on Jul 11, 2021, 11:10:20 PM
Perhaps human females are the Predator's wives? Which would explain some of the more humanoid characteristics.
(https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcTMwjRpvQTQo9-al9zwRaeZ95Tayiioo1apEg&usqp=CAU)
Quote from: Trash Queen on Jul 12, 2021, 07:28:52 AM
Quote from: City Hunter Yautja on Jul 11, 2021, 11:10:20 PM
Perhaps human females are the Predator's wives? Which would explain some of the more humanoid characteristics.
https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcTMwjRpvQTQo9-al9zwRaeZ95Tayiioo1apEg&usqp=CAU
(https://scontent-sjc3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t39.30808-6/fr/cp0/e15/q65/217857300_335547568060406_3291745465663963940_n.jpg?_nc_cat=106&ccb=1-3&_nc_sid=110474&efg=eyJpIjoidCJ9&_nc_ohc=DjTSescz6IEAX9oqkBX&_nc_ht=scontent-sjc3-1.xx&oh=f99a839cbe32aee104402ab6bf70970c&oe=60F14394)
I hope you aware that's Machiko Noguchi.
Interesting theory though
Quote from: Kradan on Jul 12, 2021, 09:12:20 AM
I hope you aware that's Machiko Noguchi.
Interesting theory though
I am indeed. I wish we'd get to see Maxhiko in a film one day.
Quote from: ace3g on Jul 12, 2021, 03:02:32 AM
Recent IG stories from Kyle Strauts
I'm looking at that last pic trying to discern...
is that Stephany Mathias with some time off, sitting down to the left? And is that Amber Midthunder next to her? all while knowing it could easily be just a bunch of tourists. :)
Quote from: City Hunter Yautja on Jul 11, 2021, 11:10:20 PM
Perhaps human females are the Predator's wives? Which would explain some of the more humanoid characteristics.
Wow, what a theory! And that would explain this!
Quote from: City Hunter Yautja on Jul 12, 2021, 12:26:37 AM
I do think seeing Predator juveniles (children) being trained by adults in how to hunt wound be neat regardless if the Yuatja/ Preds are asexual or have wives.
You know young Preds would be cute. Perhaps are very own Babyoda (Grogu) moment! :)
Move over Baby Yoda!
(https://i.pinimg.com/originals/2c/b7/0f/2cb70f4e9e9fbfdcbc323a07560ea09b.jpg)
Quote from: Voodoo Magic on Jul 12, 2021, 01:32:43 PM
Quote from: ace3g on Jul 12, 2021, 03:02:32 AM
Recent IG stories from Kyle Strauts
I'm looking at that last pic trying to discern... is that Stephany Mathias with some time off, sitting down to the left? And is that Amber Midthunder next to her? all while knowing it could easily be just a bunch of tourists. :)
Quote from: City Hunter Yautja on Jul 11, 2021, 11:10:20 PM
Perhaps human females are the Predator's wives? Which would explain some of the more humanoid characteristics.
Wow, what a theory! And that would explain this!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bHk6DD1z6xo
Quote from: City Hunter Yautja on Jul 12, 2021, 12:26:37 AM
I do think seeing Predator juveniles (children) being trained by adults in how to hunt wound be neat regardless if the Yuatja/ Preds are asexual or have wives.
You know young Preds would be cute. Perhaps are very own Babyoda (Grogu) moment! :)
Move over Baby Yoda!
(https://i.pinimg.com/originals/2c/b7/0f/2cb70f4e9e9fbfdcbc323a07560ea09b.jpg)
(https://scontent-sea1-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t39.30808-6/fr/cp0/e15/q65/217605246_335870548028108_5063668229750763204_n.jpg?_nc_cat=100&ccb=1-3&_nc_sid=110474&efg=eyJpIjoidCJ9&_nc_ohc=Rdm243OPp-QAX9XFCqD&_nc_ht=scontent-sea1-1.xx&oh=4aa5684e63e4969f488a038ebf09a76b&oe=60F1078E)
Yikes! :laugh:
(https://scontent-sjc3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t39.30808-6/fr/cp0/e15/q65/214222998_335906344691195_8041566469050731688_n.jpg?_nc_cat=102&ccb=1-3&_nc_sid=110474&efg=eyJpIjoidCJ9&_nc_ohc=BLHusPKI1XAAX_GZFjT&_nc_ht=scontent-sjc3-1.xx&oh=59ea2ffb0bfd57c7bb52329ba07efffa&oe=60F28E20)
NGL that'd probably make for a weird but cool take on the Mandalorian. Say someone stumbles onto Stargazer or the OWLF having wrecked a Predator ship, one of the parents is dead and the infant is found. Can't kill or just leave the kid so they're evading the government and a very pissed off mom or dad as they try to figure out what to even do with it. You don't want it to grow up into a deranged alien slasher but it also shouldn't be dissected, it's just an animal no different than them.
"A face only a motherf**ker could love"
Machiko Noguchi ruled as a character, then they put her in Predator cosplay and turned her into a embarrassing joke.
Latest IG stories from Dane and Kyle
Quote from: ace3g on Jul 13, 2021, 04:22:09 AM
Latest IG stories from Dane and Kyle
Remember, Dane gave us these pics...
(https://i.postimg.cc/Hx8D5rVb/Screenshot-20210514-104842-Gallery.jpg)
(https://i.postimg.cc/VvyyFzCp/Screenshot-20210514-104903-Gallery.jpg)
Keeping my -
the Predator did not come to Earth to hunt the Comanche, it came to Earth to hunt the Wendigo - dream alive! ;D
So we have two creature actors 6′ 9″ in height. Hmm....
I'm totally onboard with Predator vs Bigfoot... It literally can't be any worse than The Predator
Quote from: Doomofman on Jul 13, 2021, 02:32:16 PM
I'm totally onboard with Predator vs Bigfoot... It literally can't be any worse than The Predator
(https://64.media.tumblr.com/d9b4610daada2526262b278ee38a7244/tumblr_pum4g1R4oR1yqzlz8o1_500.gifv)
The only slight concern I have is now managing both Bigfoot or Wendigo with the Predator on screen at once without taking away from each other. If both creatures are antagonistic of each other and the tribe, I can see it go more smoothly than have one be a protector or unintentional one of the tribe.
Also, having mythical creatures means more work for OWLF to look out for here ON Earth other than threats from across the stars :laugh:
Quote from: Voodoo Magic on Jul 13, 2021, 02:36:20 PM
Quote from: Doomofman on Jul 13, 2021, 02:32:16 PM
I'm totally onboard with Predator vs Bigfoot... It literally can't be any worse than The Predator
https://64.media.tumblr.com/d9b4610daada2526262b278ee38a7244/tumblr_pum4g1R4oR1yqzlz8o1_500.gifv
Come on, that was funny and you know it ! :D
Quote from: Voodoo Magic on Jul 13, 2021, 01:12:07 PM
Quote from: ace3g on Jul 13, 2021, 04:22:09 AM
Latest IG stories from Dane and Kyle
Remember, Dane gave us these pics...
https://i.postimg.cc/Hx8D5rVb/Screenshot-20210514-104842-Gallery.jpg
https://i.postimg.cc/VvyyFzCp/Screenshot-20210514-104903-Gallery.jpg
Keeping my - the Predator did not come to Earth to hunt the Comanche, it came to Earth to hunt the Wendigo - dream alive! ;D
That would be extremely ironic because of a certain role KPH played ...
Quote from: Kradan on Jul 13, 2021, 04:41:21 PM
Quote from: Voodoo Magic on Jul 13, 2021, 02:36:20 PM
Quote from: Doomofman on Jul 13, 2021, 02:32:16 PM
I'm totally onboard with Predator vs Bigfoot... It literally can't be any worse than The Predator
https://64.media.tumblr.com/d9b4610daada2526262b278ee38a7244/tumblr_pum4g1R4oR1yqzlz8o1_500.gifv
Come on, that was funny and you know it ! :D
Quote from: Voodoo Magic on Jul 13, 2021, 01:12:07 PM
Quote from: ace3g on Jul 13, 2021, 04:22:09 AM
Latest IG stories from Dane and Kyle
Remember, Dane gave us these pics...
https://i.postimg.cc/Hx8D5rVb/Screenshot-20210514-104842-Gallery.jpg
https://i.postimg.cc/VvyyFzCp/Screenshot-20210514-104903-Gallery.jpg
Keeping my - the Predator did not come to Earth to hunt the Comanche, it came to Earth to hunt the Wendigo - dream alive! ;D
That would be extremely ironic because of a certain role KPH played ...
Harry and the Predasons
Loving these fields with the early morning dew
Quote from: Doomofman on Jul 13, 2021, 02:32:16 PM
I'm totally onboard with Predator vs Bigfoot... It literally can't be any worse than The Predator
What if Big Foot is a creature from the Predator planet, one they consider a pet? :D
So Predator lost his puppy ? I'd buy that
Or the Sasquatch are an escaped slave race like in that episode of Roswell Conspiracies.
Quote from: Kradan on Jul 14, 2021, 05:16:38 AM
So Predator lost his puppy ? I'd buy that
And if the puppy is bad the Predator skins it and uses the furs for Arctic hunts. :D
There could be just two predators for the two tall actors. I think it's the most likely scenario. Doesn't mean that the bigfoot theory is impossible though. That would be an interesting turn... A good turn I don't know yet.
I think I'd prefer the Wendigo/Sasquatch angle over a pair of Predators hunting the Comanche with basic weaponry, but as with anything, it would all depend on its execution.
(https://i.pinimg.com/originals/e4/c7/38/e4c738e6886b44ae56209251c154cb67.jpg)
In my head I could see the film work where the Sasquatch is dead within the first 20 minutes of the movie - a situation where the Comanche and the Sasquatch have been living in harmony for generations - not Harry and the Hendersons style mind you :laugh: - but a dangerous mutual respect like with the bear, not invading each other's territory, and both bringing a balance to the lands.
But one day, thanks to a Predator, some Comanche hunters stumble upon a fresh slaughtering of a Sasquatch spineless and beheaded, and all but one Comanche escape to tell the tale of that discovery. A demon is among them! Then a hunting party for the demon must begin, to rid the lands of this unwanted evil.
A Predator film set during the Native American times would be cool. It could explain why warrior tribes emerged like Apache, Comanche, Cheyenne, Kiowa, and Sioux. You could even explain scalping came from the Predators.
Quote from: Voodoo Magic on Jul 13, 2021, 01:12:07 PM
Quote from: ace3g on Jul 13, 2021, 04:22:09 AM
Latest IG stories from Dane and Kyle
Remember, Dane gave us these pics...
https://i.postimg.cc/Hx8D5rVb/Screenshot-20210514-104842-Gallery.jpg
https://i.postimg.cc/VvyyFzCp/Screenshot-20210514-104903-Gallery.jpg
Keeping my - the Predator did not come to Earth to hunt the Comanche, it came to Earth to hunt the Wendigo - dream alive! ;D
Ok I'm out of the loop. What is the significance of this picture? Who is this Dane guy?
Quote from: The Shuriken on Jul 14, 2021, 05:19:13 PM
Quote from: Voodoo Magic on Jul 13, 2021, 01:12:07 PM
Quote from: ace3g on Jul 13, 2021, 04:22:09 AM
Latest IG stories from Dane and Kyle
Remember, Dane gave us these pics...
https://i.postimg.cc/Hx8D5rVb/Screenshot-20210514-104842-Gallery.jpg
https://i.postimg.cc/VvyyFzCp/Screenshot-20210514-104903-Gallery.jpg
Keeping my - the Predator did not come to Earth to hunt the Comanche, it came to Earth to hunt the Wendigo - dream alive! ;D
Ok I'm out of the loop. What is the significance of this picture? Who is this Dane guy?
Dane Diliegro. He's a tall actor/creature actor. He's currently followed by Kyle Strauts, Amber Midthunder, Alec Gillis, Dan Trachtenberg, Jeff Cutter and more from Skulls on Instagram. Based on his stories it looks like he's currently on set in Alberta. So we feel pretty good that Dane is working in Skulls.
Now before we knew this, back in March, Dane posted those pictures on Instagram of him in a Bigfoot suit next to a Predator. I found it and conspiracy theorized at the time that it was a hint that perhaps we would be getting a Sasquatch/Yeti/Bigfoot/Wendigo in Skulls. But there is no proof of that, and the Yeti suit was later described to us as some sort of rental - but who knows. Just fan dreaming of mine at this point. :)
Native American producer and consultant Jhane Myers posted this on set (she tags fight choreographer for the film, JJ Park, in the photo)
Quote from: ace3g on Jul 14, 2021, 11:00:26 PM
Native American producer and consultant Jhane Myers posted this on set (she tags fight choreographer for the film, JJ Park, in the photo)
https://www.instagram.com/p/CRUARuBrMy3/
Oh my! Did si prophecy when I said it would be cool if:
Quote from: City Hunter Yautja on Jul 14, 2021, 04:30:58 PM
A Predator film set during the Native American times would be cool. It could explain why warrior tribes emerged like Apache, Comanche, Cheyenne, Kiowa, and Sioux. You could even explain scalping came from the Predators.
It's been confirmed for a while now that the story is set pre colonial settlement...
Quote from: SiL on Jul 15, 2021, 05:40:31 AM
It's been confirmed for a while now that the story is set pre colonial settlement...
Well its the first I heard of it.
Quote from: City Hunter Yautja on Jul 15, 2021, 07:18:56 AM
Quote from: SiL on Jul 15, 2021, 05:40:31 AM
It's been confirmed for a while now that the story is set pre colonial settlement...
Well its the first I heard of it.
You can catch up here CHJ :)
https://www.avpgalaxy.net/category/predator-5-news/
Quote from: Voodoo Magic on Jul 15, 2021, 12:35:49 PM
Quote from: City Hunter Yautja on Jul 15, 2021, 07:18:56 AM
Quote from: SiL on Jul 15, 2021, 05:40:31 AM
It's been confirmed for a while now that the story is set pre colonial settlement...
Well its the first I heard of it.
You can catch up here CHJ :)
https://www.avpgalaxy.net/category/predator-5-news/
Thanks Voodoo! :)
New crew listings from IMDb
Special Effects by
Ben Eadie ... special effects assistant
IG link: https://www.instagram.com/dreadmakerroberts/
Camera and Electrical Department
Matt Prim ... best boy
Music Department
Danielle Diego ... Executive In Charge Of Music (uncredited)
Does this artwork have any merit to the story?
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That's from a Dark Horse story.
A painting featured in Aliens Vs. Predator Panel To Panel.
New crew listing per IMDb
Robin Simmerly ... assistant property master
And new set photo from director
Quote from: Trash Queen on Jul 16, 2021, 05:14:32 AM
That's from a Dark Horse story.
A painting featured in Aliens Vs. Predator Panel To Panel.
Thanks. It is a really epic art piece.
Quote from: ace3g on Jul 16, 2021, 09:42:48 PM
New crew listing per IMDb
Robin Simmerly ... assistant property master
And new set photo from director
https://www.instagram.com/p/CRZtRvrpult/
Weeee! A fluffernutter!
As if we didn't have enough posts from Kyle posting food.... :laugh:
New crew listing from IMDb
Film Editing by
Claudia Castello
Quote from: ace3g on Jul 16, 2021, 09:42:48 PM
New crew listing per IMDb
Robin Simmerly ... assistant property master
And new set photo from director
https://www.instagram.com/p/CRZtRvrpult/
Sadly the photo is not appearing for me.
*Predator purr and clicking*
Quote from: City Hunter Yautja on Jul 20, 2021, 05:22:53 AM
Sadly the photo is not appearing for me.
You aren't missing anything, trust me.
Quote from: Voodoo Magic on Jul 20, 2021, 02:44:24 PM
Quote from: City Hunter Yautja on Jul 20, 2021, 05:22:53 AM
Sadly the photo is not appearing for me.
You aren't missing anything, trust me.
I heard "trust me" in Arnold's voice. :D
Possible on set video from Skye Pelletier-Okimaw (who I've mentioned in past is most likely part of the cast based on who he follows/followed by on IG).
Kyle Strauts possibly on set.
Quote from: ace3g on Jul 20, 2021, 09:36:37 PM
Possible on set video from Skye Pelletier-Okimaw (who I've mentioned in past is most likely part of the cast based on who he follows/followed by on IG).
Yeah, I'm personally betting Skye is not only part of the "Skulls" cast, but playing the role of Kee's younger brother Taabe.
I wish this was secretly an adaption of Turok 3.
Quote from: Huggs on Jul 21, 2021, 12:53:08 AM
I wish this was secretly an adaption of Turok 3.
Hell, I wish we had a Turok film, or at least a revival of the character in a big way. I loved the animated film, Turok Son of Stone and really wished to see a follow up on it.
Turok vs Predator would be one hell of a fight to see for sure though. Question is which Turok from what era we talking about here? We got Golden Key, Valiant, Accliam, Dark Horse, and Dynamic.
Seeds of evil's still the best.
The only Turok game I played was the one on Xbox 360 titled "Turok."
The 2009 one ? I think it's actually the worst.
Quote from: BigDaddyJohn on Jul 21, 2021, 11:12:05 PM
The 2009 one ? I think it's actually the worst.
2008. I thought it was fun. Dispatching a Velociraptor with combat knife instantly was eh.. too easy. I prefer the difficulty of The Lost World Jurassic Park: Trespasser.
BEWAREOBLIVIONISATHAND
Latest IG story from Kyle
Quote from: ace3g on May 22, 2021, 09:17:23 PM
Another "hindsight is 20/20" news - Kyle Strauts, Dan Trachtenberg, and Amber Midthunder have all recently started to follow Dakota Beavers from the band WesternBoy on IG.
WesternBoy IG post shows them in Alberta Canada and the video from Dakota says they will be off the map for a couple of months but have some exciting news coming soon.
https://www.instagram.com/p/CO-qp2bhBQJ/
Neither of the band members have any IMDb profiles so maybe this has something to do with music for the movie. Unless they have some type of background/extra role.
**Just noticed the WesternBoy IG account recently started to follow Amber Midthunder's mom's casting agency -- https://www.instagram.com/midthundercasting/
_____
Maybe Dakota Beavers is part of the cast.
Quote from: ace3g on Jul 21, 2021, 11:56:22 PM
Maybe Dakota Beavers is part of the cast.
That's what I was thinking. 👍
Quote from: ace3g on Jul 14, 2021, 11:00:26 PM
Native American producer and consultant Jhane Myers posted this on set (she tags fight choreographer for the film, JJ Park, in the photo)
https://www.instagram.com/p/CRUARuBrMy3/
Say what you will about the potential story threads, but a few things stick out personally:
- The setting, as evinced by Predator Dark Ages, is very interesting.
- Love seeing so many First Nation's peoples cast to ground this film in the time period.
- Regarding my second point, whether male or female, these individuals are very beautiful.
Quote from: Rafael Gonzalez on Jul 23, 2021, 03:32:49 PM
Quote from: ace3g on Jul 14, 2021, 11:00:26 PM
Native American producer and consultant Jhane Myers posted this on set (she tags fight choreographer for the film, JJ Park, in the photo)
https://www.instagram.com/p/CRUARuBrMy3/
Say what you will about the potential story threads, but a few things stick out personally:
- The setting, as evinced by Predator Dark Ages, is very interesting.
- Love seeing so many First Nation's peoples cast to ground this film in the time period.
- Regarding my second point, whether male or female, these individuals are very beautiful.
Dark Ages was better than The Predator and Predators. I would love to see a Pred film in Crusader times. Get Crusaders and Saracens to team up to take it down.
Quote from: City Hunter Yautja on Jul 23, 2021, 07:28:49 PM
Quote from: Rafael Gonzalez on Jul 23, 2021, 03:32:49 PM
Quote from: ace3g on Jul 14, 2021, 11:00:26 PM
Native American producer and consultant Jhane Myers posted this on set (she tags fight choreographer for the film, JJ Park, in the photo)
https://www.instagram.com/p/CRUARuBrMy3/
Say what you will about the potential story threads, but a few things stick out personally:
- The setting, as evinced by Predator Dark Ages, is very interesting.
- Love seeing so many First Nation's peoples cast to ground this film in the time period.
- Regarding my second point, whether male or female, these individuals are very beautiful.
Dark Ages was better than The Predator and Predators. I would love to see a Pred film in Crusader times. Get Crusaders and Saracens to team up to take it down.
That got me excited just thinking about it.
Set photo from cinematographer for the film - Jeff Cutter
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More deductive evidence that Tymon Carter is part of the cast.
New IMDb listing
Visual Effects by
Benjamin Howdeshell ... visual effects editor
IG page
**He did some work on Alien: Harvest
More connect the dots
Has there been word when we'll get a teaser poster?
Not that I'm aware of. :)
One of the assistant production managers for the film - Jennifer Din.
Loving the foggy atmosphere
That a dead body laying near the guy with the spear?
Could be part of a burial scene, but the body would need to be put on a scaffold.
Thanks guys! :)
First Look at Costumes in New Predator Film "Skulls"
https://www.avpgalaxy.net/2021/07/25/first-look-at-costumes-in-new-predator-film-skulls/
Quote from: Voodoo Magic on Jul 25, 2021, 08:33:54 PM
Thanks guys! :)
First Look at Costumes in New Predator Film "Skulls"
https://www.avpgalaxy.net/2021/07/25/first-look-at-costumes-in-new-predator-film-skulls/
I was so hoping it was Yautja costumes. :)
It will be the worst Predator film ever. Worst than The Predator...
I can't get carried away with this "Teenager with Power Against Patriarchy Shows Her Strength by Killing Predator" script. But I really hope I'm wrong and something good comes out of it. The Predator has suffered enough.
Quote from: LSL on Jul 25, 2021, 08:53:32 PM
I can't get carried away with this "Teenager with Power Against Patriarchy Shows Her Strength by Killing Predator" script. But I really hope I'm wrong and something good comes out of it. The Predator has suffered enough.
I doubt they will do that, Predator has always been the more Patriarchal and masculine saga, while the Alien series is more Matriarchal and feminine (as in heroines). Its a good balance, that there are two franchises that have male and female champions; that both sexes get to assert themselves.
Quote from: LSL on Jul 25, 2021, 08:53:32 PM
I can't get carried away with this "Teenager with Power Against Patriarchy Shows Her Strength by Killing Predator" script. But I really hope I'm wrong and something good comes out of it. The Predator has suffered enough.
While it has the potential to be like that, '
Cloverfield Lane' convinced me the director will be handling the lead's portrayal in a balanced manner.
Comanche were, historically, one of, if not possibly the only, tribe which didn't have female warriors. So, I'm willing to give this a break, as that's in line with historical accuracy. The character rebelling against that allows for her having a reason to have already learned the skills in tracking, hunting and killing which she will need, later in the story.
Also, I believe she's more like eighteen or so. So, more like a young woman than what comes to most peoples' minds when hearing teenager. Especially with people generally dying much earlier in life, in those days (particularly women birthing children).
What I am a little concerned about is if the story tries to paint this as the norm, because North American tribal people have a long and proud history of female warriors. I'd feel rather unsettled if the story basically implies that isn't the case, as it would do them a disservice.
Hopefully, if the lead character survives, perhaps it'll have an epilogue where she meets a legitimate female warrior from a different tribe and goes off with them, demonstrating that her social issues were purely localised. Or perhaps just has dialogue when talking to another character, referring to how other tribes have women in that position. Sort of a, "So, why can't we," moment.
The Predator, itself, will always either die or be somehow exiled. That's the whole point of it filling the role of the villain. You're not going to have a being which glorifies slaughter and mutilation of human beings getting rewarded for it by being successful. I love sharks, but I'd think any '
Jaws' film where the main shark survives at the end would be anti-climactic and mostly unnecessary, because what's the point? Why bother to invest time and emotions in the hero's journey if they aren't going to overcome their challenge?
This might not be fog as we have wild fires burning that is blowing in smoke here in Alberta ;D
There's something in those trees...
Looks like they might be setting up some shots up there.
Dane says he thinks about this video a lot. And I'm thinking....
(https://i.ibb.co/ZNFFWwn/Screenshot-20210725-181409-Gallery.jpg)
Bigfoot confirmed?
*Voodoo has Sasquatch on the brain again. :D*
Just realized the Predator is the true tree hugher. :D
Looks like Amber Midthunder's character on the right side.
https://i.pinimg.com/474x/de/20/cc/de20cc4441a97b650b92ea91bafd4455.jpg
For comparison
Speaking of the Trees. Recent DD IG Story
tinyurl.com/r39dmtkd
I like the fog. Predator cloaked in fog.
A cloaked predator in the fog could look like a spirit. I would be okay if preds brought something from another world to hunt.
Looks like the original IG post has been taken down.
Quote from: City Hunter Yautja on Jul 25, 2021, 08:42:28 PM
Quote from: Voodoo Magic on Jul 25, 2021, 08:33:54 PM
Thanks guys! :)
First Look at Costumes in New Predator Film "Skulls"
https://www.avpgalaxy.net/2021/07/25/first-look-at-costumes-in-new-predator-film-skulls/
I was so hoping it was Yautja costumes. :)
I don't think we're going to see one. They seem to be keeping a real tight lid on this one.
I hope Din's post didn't get her into too much trouble.
Quote from: Clubroot on Jul 25, 2021, 11:44:52 PM
Looks like Amber Midthunder's character on the right side.
https://i.pinimg.com/474x/de/20/cc/de20cc4441a97b650b92ea91bafd4455.jpg
For comparison
Too far to tell, but could be!
Ahh bummer, its good to archive everything 8)
If she does get in trouble, she might have to private her IG :( Since that happened to Skye Pelletier's profile recently after talks about him being Taabe. They read this forum for sure
Alec is in Canada, perhaps they'll be doing scenes with the Predator suit now. The guy on the left is make up FX artist Mike Fields, who worked on AVPR and The Predator with ADI.
Darn. I was hoping Alec would have taken that left turn at Albuquerque... ;D
(https://media1.tenor.com/images/c28672ad3d74d382af3f21358d684a73/tenor.gif)
Actually those Jeff Cutters shoulder consciences. Artistic minds rarely have the angel and devil you may be used to.
I adore Alec Gills. Guys so passionate about his job and seems to love what he's doing.
Quote from: Master on Jul 27, 2021, 07:13:05 PM
I adore Alec Gills. Guys so passionate about his job and seems to love what he's doing.
(https://i.ibb.co/LvswsVp/IMG-20190916-160417.jpg)
No, :laugh:, you're absolutely right. Alec seems like a really good guy. He comes across as very passionate with a great sense of humor, and always seems to be having a blast. (Who wouldn't in that line of work!) And regardless if I don't like his company's Predators, Alec is absolutely awesome for coming on the podcast!
Quote from: Voodoo Magic on Jul 27, 2021, 07:38:45 PM
Quote from: Master on Jul 27, 2021, 07:13:05 PM
I adore Alec Gills. Guys so passionate about his job and seems to love what he's doing.
https://i.ibb.co/LvswsVp/IMG-20190916-160417.jpg
No, :laugh:, you're absolutely right. Alec seems like a really good guy. He comes across as very passionate with a great sense of humor, and always seems to be having a blast. (Who wouldn't in that line of work!) And regardless if I don't like his company's Predators, Alec is absolutely awesome for coming on the podcast!
(https://www.syfy.com/sites/syfy/files/styles/1200x680_hero/public/syfywire_blog_post/2018/09/predator_handshake.jpg)
There's a short interview with the producers on Collider , it's going to be called Skull (typo?), apparently this is the first time a predator has been to earth.
Also one of them saying the dailies are great and they think it's on par with the first film
https://collider.com/predator-new-movie-title-skull-origin-story-plot-details-timeline-female-lead/
New hints at possible filming locations.
Another confirmation that Dane Diliegro is in the film. A reply from Jeff Cutter to Dane in the IG post about the crushed lens case.
Quotejeff_cutter
@dd and you'll still look great😉
3d
Fight choreographer - JJ Park and Stunt coordinator - Steven McMichael on set.
**Can someone enhance / zoom in on his sunglasses to see reflection of the handset monitor, lol
They seem confident about the film but seeing PG13 being thrown about has immediately dampened whatever little hope I had for this movie
The guy on the left seem to wear a predator jacket of some sort, nice.
Well I must admit everyone, I'm very excited for this film now. I'm not going to get bogged down on what we do or don't know. The fact they are trying something fresh and different, and in the style of the revenant apparently, has me completely hyped!
It's been a long time coming and even if it doesn't work I respect them for trying to think out of the box for once and trying something new and unique. I hope they keep a dark serious tone in this film and stay away from cheesy throwback lines etc.
My instincts are usually always right when it comes to predator films. As soon as I sense a flop it has consistently become that. This is the first time I'm not concerned but genuinely intrigued and excited. Fingers crossed this is the one, that gives us predator fans the film we all deserve.
Similar to The Revenant? I could get behind that 8) That's definitely a vibe that would go well with the Predator franchise imo.
However, I'm not a fan of them trying to build it as the Predator's first journey to earth, but the similarity to Revenant would be awesome.
Alec in those same woods that Kyle Strauts posted from.
@wysps
Yeah I understand that concern, but if the quality of the film is good on its own merit, I'm not going to get bogged down on one tiny gripe. Say 90% was on point, I can look past the 10%.
End of the day, it's crunch time now imo for the franchise. It's in desperate need of a fresh injection of ideas. And I think taking it into a grounded serious revenant style tone and direction could be the right call.
I absolutely love the revenant, so I suppose I'm hyped and biased because I actually envisioned this happening when I watched the revenant one time ages ago. It was the long drawn out scene at the beginning, when they are in the trees, and I was like damn this would work sweet with predator. Another idea I had was a predator film in the style sicario.
Either way it's the news I've been wanting. Just someone to grab hold of this thing and take it in a interesting direction. And I believe skulls could just do that.
#TrustInDan
"Looking at this old picture of our slate from when we shot 10 Cloverfield Lane and thinking about how sometimes they report on a movie's title, but it's actually just the code name it is shooting under..."
https://www.instagram.com/p/CR7TOCoJc_m/?utm_medium=copy_link
Hmm. Was thinking at first this might apply to Skull(s), but John Davis did confirm the title, so...
I think, given the timing, that is very much the intent of the post. Just think it means that Skull/s isn't guaranteed to be the final name, just happens to be what it's being called now.
I'm not fully worried about the rating issue. If it where to be PG-13 it'd be on Disney Plus rather than Hulu. The Revenant comparisons have me beyond excited. If the Predator made first contact prior to white settlers in America (Being the region it's set in, that means before Leif Eriksson), there's still over 1,000 years worth of other time periods they can land in for other films.
I think the problem with that one is that if we're still going Comanche (and staying accurate), their culture came about after the introduction of horses (iirc) which came around when the Spanish showed up which was around 1700s.
Quote from: Corporal Hicks on Jul 30, 2021, 09:15:05 AM
I think, given the timing, that is very much the intent of the post. Just think it means that Skull/s isn't guaranteed to be the final name, just happens to be what it's being called now.
Yeah, I hear that. And "code names" which Trachtenberg refers to in his post are used to try to keep the production of a film in secrecy - even though the cat was out of the bag on this one prior to filming.
But if Skull(s) is indeed a code name, it's just strange for Producer John Davis to outright say the film is called "Skull(s)". It's like John Davis telling the press in 2007 that his new AvP film sequel is called "Colorado Nights".
"Skull" or "Skulls" has always been such a generic title I've always taken it as simply the code name. And it could just be that they haven't settled on a final name for it yet, hence why John Davis still referred to it as "Skull."
Plus there's no point in not advertising the Predator connection now that the cat's out of the bag. I could maybe have seen them try to keep it a secret if they'd managed to get it out there without anyone knowing it was a Predator film, but now there's not much point.
Quote from: Voodoo Magic on Jul 30, 2021, 01:24:31 PM
Quote from: Corporal Hicks on Jul 30, 2021, 09:15:05 AM
I think, given the timing, that is very much the intent of the post. Just think it means that Skull/s isn't guaranteed to be the final name, just happens to be what it's being called now.
Yeah, I hear that. And "code names" which Trachtenberg refers to in his post are used to try to keep the production of a film in secrecy - even though the cat was out of the bag on this one prior to filming.
But if Skull(s) is indeed a code name, it's just strange for Producer John Davis to outright say the film is called "Skull(s)". It's like John Davis telling the press in 2007 that his new AvP film sequel is called "Colorado Nights".
But it was. It was originally a sequel to Boogie nights but they couldn't secure Vince Vaughn and had to tag in Predator. Could you imagine how much more efficient Vince Vaughn would have been than Wolf?
Quote from: Stitch on Jul 30, 2021, 03:00:11 PM
But it was. It was originally a sequel to Boogie nights but they couldn't secure Vince Vaughn and had to tag in Predator. Could you imagine how much more efficient Vince Vaughn would have been than Wolf?
Finally! Someone is making sense around here! :laugh:
I don't even know what you're talking about :D
Quote from: Kailem on Jul 30, 2021, 02:56:57 PM
"Skull" or "Skulls" has always been such a generic title I've always taken it as simply the code name. And it could just be that they haven't settled on a final name for it yet, hence why John Davis still referred to it as "Skull."
Plus there's no point in not advertising the Predator connection now that the cat's out of the bag. I could maybe have seen them try to keep it a secret if they'd managed to get it out there without anyone knowing it was a Predator film, but now there's not much point.
This one I don't quite understand... Like, why the secrecy? ???
Quote from: Corporal Hicks on Jul 30, 2021, 11:37:49 AM
I think the problem with that one is that if we're still going Comanche (and staying accurate), their culture came about after the introduction of horses (iirc) which came around when the Spanish showed up which was around 1700s.
It'd be a let down if they went picking and choosing settings/elements of the culture and mishmashing things just to put together an entertaining film. A tad disrespectful. I don't expect to see any horses in the film, for the very reason you stated (unless they change the period). Or thick, vegetated forests for that matter. So, I'm definitely curious to see how a Predator hunt will be pulled off in that environment. Kind of makes the prospect of the film more interesting given that it'll definitely be different than what we've seen thus far!
They're 3/4 through and there seems to be no sign or mention of horses so far, so they may have dropped the Comanche angle.
Well it is supposed to be pre-colonial. Native Americans didn't widely use horses until after the settlers, right?
Exactly. Someone seems to have pointed out they can't be pre colonial and have Comanche.
Quote from: SiL on Jul 30, 2021, 09:45:11 PM
Exactly. Someone seems to have pointed out they can't be pre colonial and have Comanche.
Quote from: ace3g on Jul 14, 2021, 11:00:26 PM
Native American producer and consultant Jhane Myers posted this on set (she tags fight choreographer for the film, JJ Park, in the photo)
https://www.instagram.com/p/CRUARuBrMy3/
The movie does have a Native American consultant, Jhane Myers who is Comanche and Blackfeet. But perhaps it's an unspecified Native American tribe or earlier 'Proto-Commanche.'
From Wikipedia:
"The Proto-Comanche movement to the Plains was part of the larger phenomenon known as the "Shoshonean Expansion" in which that language family spread across the Great Basin and across the mountains into Wyoming. The Kotsoteka ('Bison Eaters') were probably among the first. Other groups followed. Contact with the Shoshones of Wyoming was maintained until the 1830s when it was broken by the advancing Cheyennes and Arapahoes.
After the Pueblo Revolt of 1680, various Plains peoples acquired horses, but it was probably some time before they were very numerous. As late as 1725, Comanches were described as using large dogs rather than horses to carry their bison hide "campaign tents."
If they are supposed to be in Wyoming, Calgary has been used for that location before with
Brokeback Mountain.
Yes, I know she's there. My guess would be proto-Comanche if they still wanted the recognisability of the Comanche tribe, but I'm hoping they just leave it vague/fictional so they don't need to worry about putting their foot in their mouths.
Quote from: SiL on Jul 30, 2021, 10:12:50 PM
Yes, I know she's there. My guess would be proto-Comanche if they still wanted the recognisability of the Comanche tribe, but I'm hoping they just leave it vague/fictional so they don't need to worry about putting their foot in their mouths.
I agree, best route to go would be to just leave it unspecified I think.
Quote from: Corporal Hicks on Jul 30, 2021, 11:37:49 AM
I think the problem with that one is that if we're still going Comanche (and staying accurate), their culture came about after the introduction of horses (iirc) which came around when the Spanish showed up which was around 1700s.
Ah ok, the presence of the Comanche tribe and horses where stuff I didn't know was in the film. But honestly I can't imagine there's anything definitive in the film that could really preclude Predators having been to earth before. I bet if it's a hit they'll go back on that.
Actor in costume:
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Obstructed view of one of the teepees
(https://preview.redd.it/zzwr73dk5x671.jpg?width=3024&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=6ea5734ce849f43b4875692e1b23d200be438084)
https://www.reddit.com/r/Calgary/comments/o62kjx/predator_5_is_filming_in_morley/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web2x&context=3
38 Days ago! All this time these pics have been there.
(https://i.ibb.co/yyKPQxN/Screenshot-20210731-073656-Messenger.jpg)
Take this with a grain of salt, the Reddit user that posted the pictures responded to a comment with:
Spoiler
K-Y-I-Y-O
Op ·
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One of the crew members mentioned that it has something to do with "Raphael Adolini 1715", the flintlock Danny Glover was handed in P2.
I posted this on another topic thread, but I think it would have been better ''suited'' here. But Dane Diliegro has been spotted sporting the sasquatch suit again, and was also tagged on IG
*Archive*
https://i.imgur.com/3BNjefm.png
Do you guys think this is from Skull? or is this from another project that he is working on called Monsters of California?
https://www.imdb.com/title/tt13298500/?ref_=nm_flmg_act_1
Hashtag for the suit includes #rentalsuit
I doubt the studio would let anyone prematurely post costumes from the film, unfortunately.
Quote from: ace3g on Jul 31, 2021, 02:03:52 PM
Take this with a grain of salt, the Reddit user that posted the pictures responded to a comment with:
Spoiler
K-Y-I-Y-O
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One of the crew members mentioned that it has something to do with "Raphael Adolini 1715", the flintlock Danny Glover was handed in P2.
Yeah I saw that. And he posted more than that. I messaged him already so we'll see.
The filming camp seems to match:
(https://i.imgur.com/I3MCsKU.jpg)
New possible set locations from Dane's IG story
Some fan concept art posters
Quote from: Voodoo Magic on Jul 31, 2021, 03:47:12 PM
Hashtag for the suit includes #rentalsuit
I doubt the studio would let anyone prematurely post costumes from the film, unfortunately.
Quote from: ace3g on Jul 31, 2021, 02:03:52 PM
Take this with a grain of salt, the Reddit user that posted the pictures responded to a comment with:
Spoiler
K-Y-I-Y-O
Op ·
33m
One of the crew members mentioned that it has something to do with "Raphael Adolini 1715", the flintlock Danny Glover was handed in P2.
Yeah I saw that. And he posted more than that. I messaged him already so we'll see.
What?! That's crazy! Can't wait. :o
Quote from: ace3g on Jul 31, 2021, 07:17:23 PM
New possible set locations from Dane's IG story
Some fan concept art posters
https://www.instagram.com/p/CR7ekbOKPPg/
https://www.instagram.com/p/CR_F1g4DAJQ/
https://www.instagram.com/p/CR_r2ONMMc1/
8)
Wow those fan posters came out dope
Get poster concepts. Not a good title, though. Skulls I can get behind. Skull just seems like its lacking.
Quote from: Clubroot on Jul 31, 2021, 03:15:29 PM
I posted this on another topic thread, but I think it would have been better ''suited'' here. But Dane Diliegro has been spotted sporting the sasquatch suit again, and was also tagged on IG
https://www.instagram.com/p/CR7Ki3RrS5t/
*Archive*
https://i.imgur.com/3BNjefm.png
Do you guys think this is from Skull? or is this from another project that he is working on called Monsters of California?
https://www.imdb.com/title/tt13298500/?ref_=nm_flmg_act_1
I'd love such plot twist very much!
Not to mention seeing the Predator engage a non-human adversary other than another Predator or an Alien. 8)
Perhaps a mythological creature in the vein of The Terror, but Bigfoot, please no.
I loved the first season of The Terror, and I have to admit that I would never have thought of such a creature in a Predator movie. I saw an essentially similar being in Firebase from Neill Blomkamp's studio. Yes, the short flick has some similarities to the first Predator movie, but to me the creature featured in the short is a tulpa. A bit supernatural, but dope nonetheless.
Quote from: Clubroot on Jul 31, 2021, 03:15:29 PM
I posted this on another topic thread, but I think it would have been better ''suited'' here. But Dane Diliegro has been spotted sporting the sasquatch suit again, and was also tagged on IG
https://www.instagram.com/p/CR7Ki3RrS5t/
*Archive*
https://i.imgur.com/3BNjefm.png
Do you guys think this is from Skull? or is this from another project that he is working on called Monsters of California?
https://www.imdb.com/title/tt13298500/?ref_=nm_flmg_act_1
:laugh: :laugh: :laugh:
and this from the FX company's YT page.
;D ;D ;D
Part of me wants this to be in Skull as a comic relief lol
A purported plot leak for Predator 5/Skull(s).
It goes against the initial Skulls production synopsis of "in a time before any Europeans had ever encroached on their lands" But since we never know....
*SPOILERS* Read at your own risk:Spoiler
I have a friend that was involved in the film. Here are a few small leaks that I know.
Skull is not the real title, it's actually Hunter. Which was the original title for Predator.
The film takes place during the Comanche wars, when a small native village is invaded by American infantry. The people are murdered and some are kept as slaves.
The film initially is from the perspective of the infantry similar to the original film, except our lead character is a female warrior who is captured.
Near the half way point all the infantry are murdered. And she begins her own battle against the predator.
It's almost as if Dutch died and the female character became the lead.
The film is meant to be showing the brutality from all perspectives.
That's all I know. I've heard it's actually incredible. Relatively low budget. And it mirrors a lot of the original.
Ive also heard they are considering backing out of it being a streaming film, because there is confidence in a theatrical release.
https://www.reddit.com/r/predator/comments/ovd2q9/predator_5_leaks/
Quote from: Voodoo Magic on Aug 01, 2021, 03:14:16 PM
A purported plot leak for Predator 5/Skull(s).
It goes against the initial Skulls production synopsis of "in a time before any Europeans had ever encroached on their lands" But since we never know....
*SPOILERS* Read at your own risk:
Spoiler
I have a friend that was involved in the film. Here are a few small leaks that I know.
Skull is not the real title, it's actually Hunter. Which was the original title for Predator.
The film takes place during the Comanche wars, when a small native village is invaded by American infantry. The people are murdered and some are kept as slaves.
The film initially is from the perspective of the infantry similar to the original film, except our lead character is a female warrior who is captured.
Near the half way point all the infantry are murdered. And she begins her own battle against the predator.
It's almost as if Dutch died and the female character became the lead.
The film is meant to be showing the brutality from all perspectives.
That's all I know. I've heard it's actually incredible. Relatively low budget. And it mirrors a lot of the original.
Ive also heard they are considering backing out of it being a streaming film, because there is confidence in a theatrical release.
https://www.reddit.com/r/predator/comments/ovd2q9/predator_5_leaks/
That seems interesting and plausible. If the title's correct the Thomas brothers must be fuming.
I wouldn't be opposed to that. Interesting. The Kee and Taabe rivalry part could happen in the beginning, the calm before the storm, and then everything else plays out like the reddit post says. Not sure how I feel about the film being called Hunter though, since I like Skull(s) better.
I hope it won't mirror the original too much though. That's the main pitfall for me here, trying too hard to mirror a classic.
This and ADI's predators obviously.
I like that more then all Indian filck. I miss the Big Foot plot twist though :(
@Master
I feel the same way lol well Dane Diliegro being attached to the project might be the only shimmer of hope for (Bear, Bigfoot, etc)to appear in the film in some form. Unless he is playing someone from the American infantry, but his height is better suited for a creature or a Pred.
As I've previously mentioned, I think the Revenant looks fantastic. Given The Revenant had a big budget can the guys making Skulls make it look that good with less money?
https://www.quora.com/Why-did-The-Revenant-cost-so-much-to-produce-when-most-of-it-was-filmed-outside-on-location
tl;dr
Director was a big diva.
It was shot on remote snowy locations, only with available light
the budget soared pretty easily.
Quote from: Voodoo Magic on Aug 01, 2021, 03:14:16 PM
A purported plot leak for Predator 5/Skull(s).
It goes against the initial Skulls production synopsis of "in a time before any Europeans had ever encroached on their lands" But since we never know....
*SPOILERS* Read at your own risk:
Spoiler
I have a friend that was involved in the film. Here are a few small leaks that I know.
Skull is not the real title, it's actually Hunter. Which was the original title for Predator.
The film takes place during the Comanche wars, when a small native village is invaded by American infantry. The people are murdered and some are kept as slaves.
The film initially is from the perspective of the infantry similar to the original film, except our lead character is a female warrior who is captured.
Near the half way point all the infantry are murdered. And she begins her own battle against the predator.
It's almost as if Dutch died and the female character became the lead.
The film is meant to be showing the brutality from all perspectives.
That's all I know. I've heard it's actually incredible. Relatively low budget. And it mirrors a lot of the original.
Ive also heard they are considering backing out of it being a streaming film, because there is confidence in a theatrical release.
https://www.reddit.com/r/predator/comments/ovd2q9/predator_5_leaks/
I can see the actual title being Hunter. That's it. Don't trust the rest.
Quote from: Voodoo Magic on Aug 01, 2021, 03:14:16 PM
A purported plot leak for Predator 5/Skull(s).
It goes against the initial Skulls production synopsis of "in a time before any Europeans had ever encroached on their lands" But since we never know....
*SPOILERS* Read at your own risk:
Spoiler
I have a friend that was involved in the film. Here are a few small leaks that I know.
Skull is not the real title, it's actually Hunter. Which was the original title for Predator.
The film takes place during the Comanche wars, when a small native village is invaded by American infantry. The people are murdered and some are kept as slaves.
The film initially is from the perspective of the infantry similar to the original film, except our lead character is a female warrior who is captured.
Near the half way point all the infantry are murdered. And she begins her own battle against the predator.
It's almost as if Dutch died and the female character became the lead.
The film is meant to be showing the brutality from all perspectives.
That's all I know. I've heard it's actually incredible. Relatively low budget. And it mirrors a lot of the original.
Ive also heard they are considering backing out of it being a streaming film, because there is confidence in a theatrical release.
https://www.reddit.com/r/predator/comments/ovd2q9/predator_5_leaks/ (https://www.reddit.com/r/predator/comments/ovd2q9/predator_5_leaks/)
I think this would work better than what the plot was previously assumed to be. The whole 'drawn to conflict' angle and it fits the recurring theme of the movies starting out as one type of movie before blending into sci fi.
This all fits with that earlier rumor from reddit too, right? (I'm not sure if both bits of info came from the same reddit user or not)
Quote from: Doomofman on Aug 01, 2021, 05:43:10 PM
Quote from: Voodoo Magic on Aug 01, 2021, 03:14:16 PM
A purported plot leak for Predator 5/Skull(s).
It goes against the initial Skulls production synopsis of "in a time before any Europeans had ever encroached on their lands" But since we never know....
*SPOILERS* Read at your own risk:
Spoiler
I have a friend that was involved in the film. Here are a few small leaks that I know.
Skull is not the real title, it's actually Hunter. Which was the original title for Predator.
The film takes place during the Comanche wars, when a small native village is invaded by American infantry. The people are murdered and some are kept as slaves.
The film initially is from the perspective of the infantry similar to the original film, except our lead character is a female warrior who is captured.
Near the half way point all the infantry are murdered. And she begins her own battle against the predator.
It's almost as if Dutch died and the female character became the lead.
The film is meant to be showing the brutality from all perspectives.
That's all I know. I've heard it's actually incredible. Relatively low budget. And it mirrors a lot of the original.
Ive also heard they are considering backing out of it being a streaming film, because there is confidence in a theatrical release.
https://www.reddit.com/r/predator/comments/ovd2q9/predator_5_leaks/ (https://www.reddit.com/r/predator/comments/ovd2q9/predator_5_leaks/)
I think this would work better than what the plot was previously assumed to be. The whole 'drawn to conflict' angle and it fits the recurring theme of the movies starting out as one type of movie before blending into sci fi.
This all fits with that earlier rumor from reddit too, right? (I'm not sure if both bits of info came from the same reddit user or not)
It's true that Predator works best as genre film with Predator in it.
Yeah that definitely sounds like it has good potential as far as a "general outline" goes if true.
What about the old gun Glover gets from one of the preds in predator 2, isn't it older then this film or is it from the same time period of the new film? Maybe we will get to see how a predator gets hold of this gun in the upcoming film. Would be a nice reference to predator 2 imo.
The gun is from after this.
The leak smells an awful lot like BS considering everything we've seen so far. Maybe the title.
Quote from: SiL on Aug 01, 2021, 08:17:44 PM
The gun is from after this.
The leak smells an awful lot like BS considering everything we've seen so far. Maybe the title.
I'm feeling the same way. I hesitate to believe any of it... it just seems a little too different from everything talked about/shown up until this point. Plus, in spirit it sounds kind of similar to
Hostiles imo.
I speak from experience when I say I don't trust anyone doing leaks on reddit. Its usually bullshit a huge percentage of the time and anyone there can claim they know someone working on the film. Maybe one or two people there out of the hundreds is telling the truth but I don't trust leaks coming there ever. I can recall folks saying stuff about Assassin's Creed leaks in the reddit side, always saying the next game is taking place in Egypt/Japan/China/Indonesia ect. Fan favorite time periods and places that will always draw attention because people want it to be true. (Of course some places like Egypt and Greece have eventually been done but its just a matter of time so saying it will happen in the next year is just by eventual probability)
The only thing that makes sense out of all of this is the conflict between the Comanche and US Army, as Predators are naturally drawn to heat and violent battles/warfare. The issue is wouldn't having the costumes and other things needed to have the US Army increase the budget? All that gunpowder, repeating rifles, uniforms, and horses would be expensive right?
They've also said it's pre-settlement. I'll take the production team over an anonymous Reddit leak.
Quote from: Mr.Turok on Aug 02, 2021, 12:55:24 AM)
The issue is wouldn't having the costumes and other things needed to have the US Army increase the budget? All that gunpowder, repeating rifles, uniforms, and horses would be expensive right?
Unless it looks as cheap as the awful film "Mohawk". I remember looking forward to that one.
Remember that time when everyone thought Predators was gonna look low budget as shit when photo's of those cages leaked ;D
It does.
Indeed.
I think some of Predators' lower budget could have been masked or less exposed if it was shot better - I was not impressed at all with the cinematography work - but I agree, as it stands Predators often looks low budget.
Quote from: Clubroot on Aug 01, 2021, 04:58:14 PM
@Master
I feel the same way lol well Dane Diliegro being attached to the project might be the only shimmer of hope for (Bear, Bigfoot, etc)to appear in the film in some form. Unless he is playing someone from the American infantry, but his height is better suited for a creature or a Pred.
(https://i.ibb.co/j8Dndkm/Screenshot-20210514-104903-Gallery.jpg)
(https://i.ibb.co/hWzg5yG/Screenshot-20210514-104842-Gallery.jpg)
As much as I love imagining the encounter above, and the Predator's original intent for coming to Earth being to hunt something bigger than than the Comanche Natives, Dane is roughly the same build and same height as Kyle Strauts, so perhaps it's as simple as they're both sharing Predator costume duties. Or just perhaps, there are
two Predators featured in Skull(s)....
Quote from: nanison on Aug 01, 2021, 07:19:48 PM
What about the old gun Glover gets from one of the preds in predator 2, isn't it older then this film or is it from the same time period of the new film? Maybe we will get to see how a predator gets hold of this gun in the upcoming film. Would be a nice reference to predator 2 imo.
So Raphael Adolini's flintlock in Predator 2 was a
Spanish gun, dated 1715. The name Raphael was also found/used in Spain. (But Adolini I believe is primarily an Italian name.)
Now in the 1700s, the Comanche in the southern part of America were not fighting colonists from England, but from Spain, so the time periods definitely sync if writer Patrick Aison decided to go there. :)
Quote from: Voodoo Magic on Aug 02, 2021, 01:57:30 PM
Quote from: nanison on Aug 01, 2021, 07:19:48 PM
What about the old gun Glover gets from one of the preds in predator 2, isn't it older then this film or is it from the same time period of the new film? Maybe we will get to see how a predator gets hold of this gun in the upcoming film. Would be a nice reference to predator 2 imo.
So Raphael Adolini's flintlock in Predator 2 was a Spanish gun, dated 1715. The name Raphael was also found/used in Spain. (But Adolini I believe is primarily an Italian name.)
Now in the 1700s, the Comanche in the southern part of America were not fighting colonists from England, but from Spain, so the time periods definitely sync if writer Patrick Aison decided to go there. :)
OK VM, I know you're a font of Predator knowledge, but where did you get the info that the gun was Spanish?
Raphael is not usually a Spanish name, it's Italian, just like Adolini. In Spain, as far as I know, the spelling is usually
Rafael, as is evidenced by various Spanish footballers, and the tennis player Rafael Nadal.
Since guns of this type were found all over Europe, this implies to me that the flintlock is Italian, not Spanish.
With regards to the film, though, Italians aren't known for invading pre-colonial America, so it more than likely has nothing to do with Skulls.
Quote from: Stitch on Aug 02, 2021, 03:13:15 PM
where did you get the info that the gun was Spanish?
This Catalonian Flintlock was the replica used in the film (made by Denix.) It's a Spanish pistol.
https://www.iloveswords.com/REV_Flint_Catalonian.html
QuoteRaphael is not usually a Spanish name, it's Italian, just like Adolini. In Spain, as far as I know, the spelling is usually Rafael, as is evidenced by various Spanish footballers, and the tennis player Rafael Nadal.
Yes, I never said Raphael was a Spanish name. I said "Raphael was also found/used in Spain." With any name with origins in Hebrew B.C., names got around by time the 18th century (even if you don't factor in the time of Spanish Italy.)
I'm not saying Raphael with the "ph" was incredibly popular there. It's ranked #536 right now in Spain.
https://charlies-names.com/en/raphael/
But in the context of writer Patrick Aison somewhere making it work, he has some connections to do so. People even argue the Italian Christopher Columbus was originally charged to claim lands for Spain. So you have places to go with it. :)
Quote from: Voodoo Magic on Aug 02, 2021, 01:57:30 PM
I think some of Predators' lower budget could have been masked or less exposed if it was shot better - I was not impressed at all with the cinematography work - but I agree, as it stands Predators often looks low budget.
Quote from: Clubroot on Aug 01, 2021, 04:58:14 PM
@Master
I feel the same way lol well Dane Diliegro being attached to the project might be the only shimmer of hope for (Bear, Bigfoot, etc)to appear in the film in some form. Unless he is playing someone from the American infantry, but his height is better suited for a creature or a Pred.
(https://i.ibb.co/j8Dndkm/Screenshot-20210514-104903-Gallery.jpg)
(https://i.ibb.co/hWzg5yG/Screenshot-20210514-104842-Gallery.jpg)
As much as I love imagining the encounter above, and the Predator's original intent for coming to Earth being to hunt something bigger than than the Comanche Natives, Dane is roughly the same build and same height as Kyle Strauts, so perhaps it's as simple as they're both sharing Predator costume duties. Or just perhaps, there are two Predators featured in Skulls.
One can dream about the actual plot twist right?
Quote from: Voodoo Magic on Aug 02, 2021, 04:16:07 PM
Quote from: Stitch on Aug 02, 2021, 03:13:15 PM
where did you get the info that the gun was Spanish?
This Catalonian Flintlock was the replica used in the film (made by Denix.) It's a Spanish pistol.
https://www.iloveswords.com/REV_Flint_Catalonian.html
QuoteRaphael is not usually a Spanish name, it's Italian, just like Adolini. In Spain, as far as I know, the spelling is usually Rafael, as is evidenced by various Spanish footballers, and the tennis player Rafael Nadal.
Yes, I never said Raphael was a Spanish name. I said "Raphael was also found/used in Spain." With any name with origins in Hebrew B.C., names got around by time the 18th century (even if you don't factor in the time of Spanish Italy.)
I'm not saying Raphael with the "ph" was incredibly popular there. It's ranked #536 right now in Spain.
https://charlies-names.com/en/raphael/
But in the context of writer Patrick Aison somewhere making it work, he has some connections to do so. People even argue the Italian Christopher Columbus was originally charged to claim lands for Spain. :)
We can easily assume Raphael Adolini was of Italian origin working for Spanish or Pirate from some mixed crew. In my head canon he's form Sicily and great grandfather of one Vito Andolini ;)
The "ph" Raphael is even closer to french actually ;D
Quote from: Master on Aug 02, 2021, 04:25:37 PM
We can easily assume Raphael Adolini was of Italian origin working for Spanish or Pirate from some mixed crew. In my head canon he's form Sicily and great grandfather of one Vito Andolini ;)
(https://media0.giphy.com/media/YeLsS65XBEk7e/giphy.gif)
Quote from: BigDaddyJohn on Aug 02, 2021, 04:48:15 PM
The "ph" Raphael is even closer to french actually ;D
:laugh:
(https://media.tenor.com/images/3f7ec3280630b4728fe146ecda8f28e5/tenor.gif)
Quote from: Voodoo Magic on Aug 02, 2021, 05:03:18 PM
Quote from: Master on Aug 02, 2021, 04:25:37 PM
We can easily assume Raphael Adolini was of Italian origin working for Spanish or Pirate from some mixed crew. In my head canon he's form Sicily and great grandfather of one Vito Andolini ;)
https://media0.giphy.com/media/YeLsS65XBEk7e/giphy.gif
(https://thumbs.gfycat.com/FavorableCloseCoypu-size_restricted.gif)
(https://media2.giphy.com/media/3o84sw9CmwYpAnRRni/200.gif)
Quote from: Master on Aug 02, 2021, 04:25:37 PM
Quote from: Voodoo Magic on Aug 02, 2021, 04:16:07 PM
Quote from: Stitch on Aug 02, 2021, 03:13:15 PM
where did you get the info that the gun was Spanish?
This Catalonian Flintlock was the replica used in the film (made by Denix.) It's a Spanish pistol.
https://www.iloveswords.com/REV_Flint_Catalonian.html
QuoteRaphael is not usually a Spanish name, it's Italian, just like Adolini. In Spain, as far as I know, the spelling is usually Rafael, as is evidenced by various Spanish footballers, and the tennis player Rafael Nadal.
Yes, I never said Raphael was a Spanish name. I said "Raphael was also found/used in Spain." With any name with origins in Hebrew B.C., names got around by time the 18th century (even if you don't factor in the time of Spanish Italy.)
I'm not saying Raphael with the "ph" was incredibly popular there. It's ranked #536 right now in Spain.
https://charlies-names.com/en/raphael/
But in the context of writer Patrick Aison somewhere making it work, he has some connections to do so. People even argue the Italian Christopher Columbus was originally charged to claim lands for Spain. :)
We can easily assume Raphael Adolini was of Italian origin working for Spanish or Pirate from some mixed crew. In my head canon he's form Sicily and great grandfather of one Vito Andolini ;)
Raphael Adolini being an Italian sailor/pirate who picked up the flintlock whilst trading/plundering Spanish ports makes sense to me.
Quote from: Stitch on Aug 02, 2021, 06:33:59 PM
Raphael Adolini being an Italian sailor/pirate who picked up the flintlock whilst trading/plundering Spanish ports makes sense to me.
I like that too.
This was all just an exercise in relation to Nanison's hope to tie in Predator 2's flintlock to Skull(s). I think the Spanish lost their rule over much of Italy somewhere before the year 1715, so rather than involving the Comanche and their fights with colonists for Spain, Patrick Aison could have easily writen Italian pirates washing up on America's shores. (I believe a lot of Italian pirates at that time would have been in the service of Spain at one point anyway - to explain the guns.) Anywho... the flintlock AND the Elder Predator being worked in Skull(s) would be pretty wild! :)
Quote from: Voodoo Magic on Aug 02, 2021, 07:12:32 PM
Quote from: Stitch on Aug 02, 2021, 06:33:59 PM
Raphael Adolini being an Italian sailor/pirate who picked up the flintlock whilst trading/plundering Spanish ports makes sense to me.
I like that too.
This was all just an exercise in relation to Nanison's hope to tie in Predator 2's flintlock to Skull(s).
It should be related for continuity's sake! If skulls is the first time a predator hunts on earth and the gun is from an earlier period then we already have a first plot hole months before we have seen the actual film lol
In relation to the whole 'first time predator visited earth' thing. I don't really know how they would get that across on screen without the predator communicating it somehow which I really don't want to see.
Quote from: nanison on Aug 02, 2021, 10:28:40 PM
Quote from: Voodoo Magic on Aug 02, 2021, 07:12:32 PM
Quote from: Stitch on Aug 02, 2021, 06:33:59 PM
Raphael Adolini being an Italian sailor/pirate who picked up the flintlock whilst trading/plundering Spanish ports makes sense to me.
I like that too.
This was all just an exercise in relation to Nanison's hope to tie in Predator 2's flintlock to Skull(s).
It should be related for continuity's sake! If skulls is the first time a predator hunts on earth and the gun is from an earlier period then we already have a first plot hole months before we have seen the actual film lol
:laugh:
Hopefully John "Predator versus Alien" Davis is just confused and he meant the Elder Predator's first hunt.
Wouldn't that be an interesting film trilogy centered around Greyback if Skulls would be his first Hunt on Earth? Then you have 1718 as his second Hunt and then the last Hunt would be during the Korean War. Although I think the events in the comic was short and fine enough to be combined as one film with the Korean War film. Like the Prelude similar to the one in AVP with the Whaling Station during the early 1900s but a much more longer version.
That would be something!!
All I ask is the predator actually survives.
I just wonder how can you make the story where both Kee and the Predator survive at the end and make that resolution satisfying for all areas. You think Predators would accept mercy from their prey? Would the concept of mercy be considered dishonorable to them or understand that given a second chance is just another way of complementing them as a worthy opponent? You see this alot in other stories outside of this series that do this, like the main character shows mercy to their rival and soon enough the rival goes through character development and establish a friendship with the main character and becomes part of the main crew for the series.
Some more possible set locations.
@Mr.Turok
There has to be a 3rd opponent or force that would make the Pred and Kee work together, and thus both go their own ways at the end of the film. Since this film is a prequel, and IF the P2 lore is still acknowledged by the writers and director, the Predator lives to hunt another day.
Oh no. No working together.
For the love of God, not again.
I'm almost positive if it is Greyback the ending will be a deliberate callback to Predator 2 with either Greyback's crew coming to get him or Greyback being on the receiving end like Harrigan was before they let him go. However this does make me think about the similarities and how this could be not only a stand alone prequel but a stealth second part of a trilogy. Since if Greyback goes down in a similar way to City Hunter, is CH even dead? Sean Keyes is still active in-universe and it'd be an obvious route to take his character in having this confrontation with his father's killer even decades later given his involvement with the OWLF and Stargazer.
Naturally you're audience wants the Predator killed, but if it's Greyback he can't die since he's in Predator 2. They might have a back door for a City Hunter follow up.
Alternatively and most likely I'm talking out of my ass.
Quote from: Huggs on Aug 04, 2021, 01:19:11 AM
Oh no. No working together.
For the love of God, not again.
Hear hear ! 100% agree. We got enough of that already.
Quote from: SuperiorIronman on Aug 04, 2021, 02:11:47 AM
I'm almost positive if it is Greyback the ending will be a deliberate callback to Predator 2 with either Greyback's crew coming to get him or Greyback being on the receiving end like Harrigan was before they let him go. However this does make me think about the similarities and how this could be not only a stand alone prequel but a stealth second part of a trilogy. Since if Greyback goes down in a similar way to City Hunter, is CH even dead? Sean Keyes is still active in-universe and it'd be an obvious route to take his character in having this confrontation with his father's killer even decades later given his involvement with the OWLF and Stargazer.
Naturally you're audience wants the Predator killed, but if it's Greyback he can't die since he's in Predator 2. They might have a back door for a City Hunter follow up.
Alternatively and most likely I'm talking out of my ass.
Just my opinion, but I highly doubt they'd actually have Greyback as a character, or even reference him. I'd imagine it'll just be a completely different pred as per usual.
Quote from: ace3g on Aug 03, 2021, 10:14:26 PM
Some more possible set locations.
Those shots are just simply gorgeous.
Quote from: SuperiorIronman on Aug 04, 2021, 02:11:47 AM
I'm almost positive if it is Greyback the ending will be a deliberate callback to Predator 2 with either Greyback's crew coming to get him or Greyback being on the receiving end like Harrigan was before they let him go. However this does make me think about the similarities and how this could be not only a stand alone prequel but a stealth second part of a trilogy. Since if Greyback goes down in a similar way to City Hunter, is CH even dead? Sean Keyes is still active in-universe and it'd be an obvious route to take his character in having this confrontation with his father's killer even decades later given his involvement with the OWLF and Stargazer.
Naturally you're audience wants the Predator killed, but if it's Greyback he can't die since he's in Predator 2. They might have a back door for a City Hunter follow up.
Alternatively and most likely I'm talking out of my ass.
Jim Carrey made a living out if it! ;D
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Quote from: Clubroot on Aug 03, 2021, 11:50:30 PM
@Mr.Turok
There has to be a 3rd opponent or force that would make the Pred and Kee work together, and thus both go their own ways at the end of the film. Since this film is a prequel, and IF the P2 lore is still acknowledged by the writers and director, the Predator lives to hunt another day.
I don't see them working together, as I don't see any kind of 3rd opponent that has to force them to team up. The producers said this is a classic hunt story so its going to go down between both sides. Even if its the Bigfoot creature that is rumored about, I don't even see it as a strong enough opponent that I can see the Predator really struggle against. Simply the red herring that gets killed by the true threat Kee will have to face. I think that will be a really strong and interesting idea if Kee grants the Predator mercy, I do wonder how the producers can direct this if there is a possibility the Predator will also survive at the end of the film. I find it unlikely however and it will be one to the death, but who knows.
Splendid clip! The Sasquatch looks pretty creepy there!
Quote from: Master on Aug 07, 2021, 11:09:35 AM
Is this our Yeti?
One can hope! ;D
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Quote from: Mr.Turok on Aug 07, 2021, 09:04:22 PM
Quote from: skhellter on Aug 07, 2021, 12:59:08 PM
give me this
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qQtBOpEM_DA
The video is blocked due to copyright laws on my end so what is it about?
It's about cybernetic man fighting cybernetic yeti, all in deep delicious 70's sauce.
Quote from: Voodoo Magic on Aug 08, 2021, 12:03:17 PM
Quote from: Master on Aug 07, 2021, 11:09:35 AM
Is this our Yeti?
One can hope! ;D
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Sadly, I don't think Hollywood is capable of doing anything remotely interesting now-a-days.
Oh, it was the Six Million Dollar Man episode? :laugh:
Quote from: KiramidHead on Aug 08, 2021, 07:30:11 PM
Oh, it was the Six Million Dollar Man episode? :laugh:
Yes, yes it was! I never heard about it before.
I only know about it because the Dynamite comics did an arc based on it.
I guess being a winter set film, perhaps the Predator is wearing pelts, which could contribute to the bigfoot connotations.
Quote from: Master on Aug 08, 2021, 07:52:26 PM
Quote from: KiramidHead on Aug 08, 2021, 07:30:11 PM
Oh, it was the Six Million Dollar Man episode? :laugh:
Yes, yes it was! I never heard about it before.
Those Bigfoots were made by Weyland-Yutani.
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Quote from: Master on Aug 08, 2021, 01:43:01 PM
It's about cybernetic man fighting cybernetic yeti, all in deep delicious 70's sauce.
:D
Quote from: Voodoo Magic on Aug 08, 2021, 12:03:17 PM
Quote from: Master on Aug 07, 2021, 11:09:35 AM
Is this our Yeti?
One can hope! ;D
https://anomalien.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/08/beast-boggy.jpg
Sadly, I don't think Hollywood is capable of doing anything remotely interesting now-a-days.
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I'm still not 100% that if they can make the Sasquatch angle work, as for that same reason you stated. Feels like they will get clumsy with it and will be off putting because of it.
Quote from: Some Old Dude on Aug 09, 2021, 11:45:11 AM
I guess being a winter set film, perhaps the Predator is wearing pelts, which could contribute to the bigfoot connotations.
Wait, so does anyone know that will this take place in a summer or winter season? Seems more like a summer background, but with CGI and all that, it can change up a few things or something idk. Makes sense in the summer due to the heat and conflict angle but a winter season can make things work spectacularly well as a great change up from the usual.
I usually kind of associate the Pacific Northwest as wintery terrain, even if it's set in Summer lol. There's a recent low budget thriller called Alone I'd highly recommend checking out to show you what I mean.
Quote from: Mr.Turok on Aug 10, 2021, 04:04:38 AM
Wait, so does anyone know that will this take place in a summer or winter season? Seems more like a summer background, but with CGI and all that, it can change up a few things or something idk. Makes sense in the summer due to the heat and conflict angle but a winter season can make things work spectacularly well as a great change up from the usual.
No winter for me thanks. I prefer to go back to the Thomas Brothers conception of Predators drawn to warmth.
Only in the hottest years this happens. Plenty of time periods, opponents and locales to choose from without having to replay AvP Antarctica again.
In a related note for me, it was refreshing to hear Peter Briggs annoyed with Paul f*ck-the-lore Anderson for sticking the Predators in the snow too, especially without any effort to upgrade the Predators' apparel to compensate for the sub-zero temperatures.
So damn f**kstrating.
(I think I just invented a new word).
New story from Strauts
Quote from: Voodoo Magic on Aug 10, 2021, 10:07:12 PM
No winter for me thanks. I prefer to go back to the Thomas Brothers conception of Predators drawn to warmth. Only in the hottest years this happens. Plenty of time periods, opponents and locales to choose from without having to replay AvP Antarctica again.
In a related note for me, it was refreshing to hear Peter Briggs annoyed with Paul f*ck-the-lore Anderson for sticking the Predators in the snow too, especially without any effort to upgrade the Predators' apparel to compensate for the sub-zero temperatures.
So damn f**kstrating.
(I think I just invented a new word).
Can't remember but wasn't (or shouldn't?) the temperature be different that deep below ground?
Might be comparable to not wearing a jacket when driving somewhere because you'd only have to walk a minute to the entrance?
Totally unrelated: this is my kind of idea for a Predator movie, I don't know where else to post it.
set in Africa during heavy military conflict that coincides with a heat wave.
Africa provides excellent backgrounds and sceneries: big cities, small towns, slums, tribal villages, jungles, lakes,...
You can have a mainly black cast with one or few token white guys instead of the other way around. And it wouldn't be taking "the woke route". It's Africa, it's reality. And it would make sense for a local to be familiar with his environment and it's possibilities.
There's Predator comic book stories they could incorporate:
-Rite Of Passage
-The Pride at Nghasa
-Hunters II.
Combine those and you could have a sweet movie.
Quote from: Voodoo Magic on Aug 10, 2021, 10:07:12 PM
No winter for me thanks. I prefer to go back to the Thomas Brothers conception of Predators drawn to warmth. Only in the hottest years this happens. Plenty of time periods, opponents and locales to choose from without having to replay AvP Antarctica again.
In a related note for me, it was refreshing to hear Peter Briggs annoyed with Paul f*ck-the-lore Anderson for sticking the Predators in the snow too, especially without any effort to upgrade the Predators' apparel to compensate for the sub-zero temperatures.
This is something that has genuinely never bothered me. It's supposed to be a challenge. Hunting in uncomfortable conditions only adds to the challenge. It all made sense to me.
Same here. Inside of the Temple was very hot, so the conditions fits Predator standards, puls it was supposed to be ancient from the times Bovotoya was habitable.
Quote from: Baron Von Marlon on Aug 11, 2021, 04:24:20 AM
Quote from: Voodoo Magic on Aug 10, 2021, 10:07:12 PM
No winter for me thanks. I prefer to go back to the Thomas Brothers conception of Predators drawn to warmth. Only in the hottest years this happens. Plenty of time periods, opponents and locales to choose from without having to replay AvP Antarctica again.
In a related note for me, it was refreshing to hear Peter Briggs annoyed with Paul f*ck-the-lore Anderson for sticking the Predators in the snow too, especially without any effort to upgrade the Predators' apparel to compensate for the sub-zero temperatures.
So damn f**kstrating.
(I think I just invented a new word).
Can't remember but wasn't (or shouldn't?) the temperature be different that deep below ground?
Might be comparable to not wearing a jacket when driving somewhere because you'd only have to walk a minute to the entrance?
Except Lex and crew wore a jacket through their entire duration inside the pyramid. So it certainly can't be deemed as hot, or even warm, or they would have stripped their jackets off - especially with all that running and surviving.
Coming to LA during a ridiculous global warming heatwave and Keyes saying Predators are "drawn by heat and conflict" to Anna saying "only in the hottest years this happens and this year, it grows hot" (and this is the hottest times in the already hot jungles of South/Cental America)... it's establishing that Predators desire and / or need and / or optimally function in hot temperatures. It makes me suspect Predators may be cold blooded like lizards.
So this piece of lore had been established in two movies already. How one could have respected it is, at least show the audience Predators compensating for the cold - via technology, medicine or apparel. The way I take him, Paul Anderson would have never concerned himself with introducing a breather mask in Predator 2, because it seems he's either incapable or uninterested to think these things through to that degree. And his disregard/disdain for the smart-disc and established Predator ship aesthetics makes me think the latter.
They didn't have to speed up the life cycle of the Alien either. The teams certainly could have been stuck down there in the pyramid for days, and it certainly would have allowed some interesting quieter character moments as well. But you know, whatever.
QuoteTotally unrelated: this is my kind of idea for a Predator movie, I don't know where else to post it.
set in Africa during heavy military conflict that coincides with a heat wave.
Africa provides excellent backgrounds and sceneries: big cities, small towns, slums, tribal villages, jungles, lakes,...
You can have a mainly black cast with one or few token white guys instead of the other way around. And it wouldn't be taking "the woke route". It's Africa, it's reality. And it would make sense for a local to be familiar with his environment and it's possibilities.
There's Predator comic book stories they could incorporate:
-Rite Of Passage
-The Pride at Nghasa
-Hunters II.
Combine those and you could have a sweet movie.
That locale sounds pretty awesome actually!
It was set there because it's an isolated, hostile environment. That was Anderson's reasoning for Antarctica.
And to his credit, he does explain that the pyramid was built when Antarctica wasn't frozen (which is before humans but whatever), so it's not like he's suggesting the Predators intentionally built it on the ice.
He also implies that the other pyramids around earth - which were in warmer climates, such as the Americas - have gradually all been destroyed until this is the last one left. So they also don't really have a choice.
There's a lot wrong with AvP but he at least made the effort to explain the decision in-universe.
I remember reading Antarctica was all initially driven from Anderson being a big fan of The Thing, and to me, the lack of logic shows that, but alas, I digress...
It still doesn't work. It wasn't like Predators should have been surprised by Earth's climate - an Ooh! We should have dressed warmer realization. Chronological Predator visits kept them abreast and they certainly can key on yearly ideal climate situations from afar to signal when & where are the best times & places to hunt on Earth.
Again, it all could have been explained away with some extra effort, show the audience Predators compensating for the cold in some way - via technology, medicine or apparel. A syringe shot resulting in their veins illuminating with a momentarily red glow, even. Something simple that doesn't leave Predator fans scratching their head, which obviously, many did.
But Anderson to me doesn't seem to follow the Stan Winston way of thinking: Function over Form. He's all form over function. If it looks cool, it rules.
I just went with the novel's explanation that their netting provided warmth. They have more coverage from their netting than the first two Predators (both arms are covered), not to mention more coverage from their armour overall.
I never took Predators liking the heat for Predators necessarily needing the heat, and I know I'm not alone in that.
But sure, even just showing the netting periodically glowing as it heats up would've been a nice touch.
Hmm. The netting since the first Thomas Hunter script we have in public consumption has always camouflage related. It's been at least 15 years since I read the novelization, I'll have to revisit that.
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But either way, the netting's purpose has never been explained to the audiences, so it's irrelevant to the point that audiences only know Predators come to environments that are at its hottest temperatures. One would logically ask - why care if the netting was already keeping them hot? So the logic doesn't quite fit.
Quote from: SiL on Aug 11, 2021, 12:58:40 PM
I never took Predators liking the heat for Predators necessarily needing the heat, and I know I'm not alone in that.
Perhaps they like it warm because it allows them to wear the loincloth speedos? ;D
But again, why bother if the netting was already keeping them hot. They can wear their speedos all day long in the cold. So I don't think those theories ultimately mesh. :)
Quote from: Voodoo Magic on Aug 11, 2021, 01:22:32 PM
Hmm. The netting since the first Thomas Hunter script we have in public consumption has always camouflage related. It's been at least 15 years since I read the novelization, I'll have to revisit that.
IIRC SiL means the AvP novelization?
Quote from: Corporal Hicks on Aug 11, 2021, 01:36:18 PM
Quote from: Voodoo Magic on Aug 11, 2021, 01:22:32 PM
Hmm. The netting since the first Thomas Hunter script we have in public consumption has always camouflage related. It's been at least 15 years since I read the novelization, I'll have to revisit that.
IIRC SiL means the AvP novelization?
Ah, I never read that. Glad it's not my often shoddy memory to blame.
And I agree with SiL that showing the netting periodically glowing / heating up would've gone a long way.
But in context of the entire movie, clearly Anderson was willing to bypass established lore (even Earth history itself) when it conflicted with the movie he was trying to make, leaving fans and other creators searching for explanations for things that he didn't care to include in his movie. And after listening to Peter Briggs, I know he wouldn't have done that in his script, which just saddens me even more how everything played out. :-[
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Quote from: Corporal Hicks on Aug 11, 2021, 01:36:18 PM
Quote from: Voodoo Magic on Aug 11, 2021, 01:22:32 PM
Hmm. The netting since the first Thomas Hunter script we have in public consumption has always camouflage related. It's been at least 15 years since I read the novelization, I'll have to revisit that.
IIRC SiL means the AvP novelization?
Ah, I never read that. Glad it's not my often shoddy memory to blame.
And I agree with SiL that showing the netting periodically glowing / heating up would've gone a long way.
But in context of the entire movie, clearly Anderson was willing to bypass established lore (even Earth history itself) when it conflicted with the movie he was trying to make, leaving fans and other creators searching for explanations for things that he didn't care to include in his movie. And after listening to Peter Briggs, I know he wouldn't have done that in his script, which just saddens me even more how everything played out. :-[
He did say in the making of section of the AVP DVD, that he chose Antarctica due to being the closest thing we can have of space; being cold, hostile, and isolated and I understand that thought, since Fox wouldn't allow a future space setting due to their dumb reasons.
There is also the fact that like us humans, Predators do have the ability to adapt or change the environment to suit their needs. I doubt they would skip the chance to hunt dangerous prey in the cold due to the cold. I always thought the added armor and netting from AVP reflects them wearing specialized gear for the climate.
Isn't this also touched upon with the new lore based on this very said clan from AVP, The Isolated Clan: the one clan that purposely live on a mountainous world in the most hottest and coldest areas of the planet. It adds more diverse lore the Predator society, that there are just some exceptions that want to live more dangerously than others.
Given the temple was hot enough to be noticed and thaw the Queen as well as the Predators supposed to be hunting in that and not on the surface you can argue they'd be miserable on the surface but it's not an issue in the actual hunting ground. They f**k shit up on the way in and on the way out but they're supposed to do the ritual in the temple where it's warm enough, not on the surface where they'd be uncomfortable.
Also as a side note, while they could be attracted to heat, what if that summer is just really hot but nothing's happening? You end up with Ahab killing a platypus. So just going where the conflict is weather be damned makes way more sense to me.
Quote from: Mr.Turok on Aug 11, 2021, 05:34:16 PM
There is also the fact that like us humans, Predators do have the ability to adapt or change the environment to suit their needs. I doubt they would skip the chance to hunt dangerous prey in the cold due to the cold.
I agree, I would imagine they would adapt accordingly. But show us Anderson, don't hand waive it and discard it.
QuoteI always thought the added armor and netting from AVP reflects them wearing specialized gear for the climate.
Yeah, geared up to fight Aliens. Again, as far as the Thomas Brothers goes, the netting was for camouflage - hence drawn by heat and conflict. If the netting is designed for warmth, Predators only need to be drawn to conflict, not heat - who cares about the climate.
My belief is while the fans come up with explanations, Anderson just discarded established lore he didn't like. Esthetics of their steamy ancient ship in Predator 2 and video games? Nah, let's change it to cold hard human-like steel. Smart-Discs? Nah, those are lame frisbees. I'll replace them with Shurikens (which admittedly are also cool). Predators only come when it's hottest? Nah, Antarctica pyramid will be so cool on screen. Alien life cycle takes how many hours? Nah, let's make it fast!
Quote from: Corporal Hicks on Aug 11, 2021, 01:36:18 PM
IIRC SiL means the AvP novelization?
That's the one. Even then I'm relying on my memory.
Considering the netting doesn't cover the whole body in the original films I think it's fair to say its exact function was left up in the air on-screen - and
Predators discarded it completely for the berserker Predators and yet they cloak fine.
Of course, it can be both a thermal regulator
and part of the cloak, if we consider what it's cloaking may be the Predator's body temperature, not visible light (after all, don't they need to cover the City Hunter in radioactive dust to see him in the meat locker? Why bother if they could just use IR?)
And Anderson didn't really ignore drawn to heat and conflict, he just presented a different type of hunt - these Predators aren't being attracted to human conflict to find worthy prey in the struggle like the originals. This isn't a hunt of opportunity. They're here to fight Aliens, and they're buried under the ice. The temperature really isn't a calling card here.
I'm sure they would've preferred somewhere warm, but their last pyramid froze over and they have to deal with it.
Quote from: Voodoo Magic on Aug 11, 2021, 07:35:17 PM
Quote from: Mr.Turok on Aug 11, 2021, 05:34:16 PM
There is also the fact that like us humans, Predators do have the ability to adapt or change the environment to suit their needs. I doubt they would skip the chance to hunt dangerous prey in the cold due to the cold.
I agree, I would imagine they would adapt accordingly. But show us Anderson, don't hand waive it and discard it.
QuoteI always thought the added armor and netting from AVP reflects them wearing specialized gear for the climate.
Yeah, geared up to fight Aliens. Again, as far as the Thomas Brothers goes, the netting was for camouflage - hence drawn by heat and conflict. If the netting is designed for warmth, Predators only need to be drawn to conflict, not heat - who cares about the climate.
My belief is while the fans come up with explanations, Anderson just discarded established lore he didn't like. Esthetics of their steamy ancient ship in Predator 2 and video games? Nah, let's change it to cold hard human-like steel. Smart-Discs? Nah, those are lame frisbees. I'll replace them with Shurikens (which admittedly are also cool). Predators only come when it's hottest? Nah, Antarctica pyramid will be so cool on screen. Alien life cycle takes how many hours? Nah, let's make it fast!
Wait, wasn't there a flashback that showed the pyramid before the ice over? And wasn't the only reason they went there was because the humans set off some beacon and they were there to just essentially clean up? Also do a little hunting while at it. I'm not sure he completely disregarded lore. Also, not the first time Predators hunted in cold weather. Are we forgetting the Cold War comic? I think they're drawn more to conflict than just heat. Heat is a bonus.
That was a different pyramid. The pyramid turned itself on and the Predators were there to hunt Aliens for their rite of passage - cleaning up is AvPR.
They were stranded in Cold War, not there intentionally.
Quote from: Voodoo Magic on Aug 11, 2021, 07:35:17 PM
Quote from: Mr.Turok on Aug 11, 2021, 05:34:16 PM
There is also the fact that like us humans, Predators do have the ability to adapt or change the environment to suit their needs. I doubt they would skip the chance to hunt dangerous prey in the cold due to the cold.
I agree, I would imagine they would adapt accordingly. But show us Anderson, don't hand waive it and discard it.
QuoteI always thought the added armor and netting from AVP reflects them wearing specialized gear for the climate.
Yeah, geared up to fight Aliens. Again, as far as the Thomas Brothers goes, the netting was for camouflage - hence drawn by heat and conflict. If the netting is designed for warmth, Predators only need to be drawn to conflict, not heat - who cares about the climate.
I mean you just answered your own question, they are geared up to fight Aliens. This isn't a regular Hunt, as SIL even brought up here:
Quote from: SiL on Aug 11, 2021, 11:25:44 PM
And Anderson didn't really ignore drawn to heat and conflict, he just presented a different type of hunt - these Predators aren't being attracted to human conflict to find worthy prey in the struggle like the originals. This isn't a hunt of opportunity. They're here to fight Aliens, and they're buried under the ice. The temperature really isn't a calling card here.
I'm sure they would've preferred somewhere warm, but their last pyramid froze over and they have to deal with it.
They are Young Bloods who are not yet seen as true hunters until this trial is complete so the rules here greatly differ from the usual Hunt that Blooded hunters go through. I'm positively sure Predators prefer hunting in the heat but here this is the trial for the Young Bloods to be seen as men in the eyes of their clan so what better way to prove that is to hunt one of the most dangerous and adaptive prey that Predators love to hunt, in the most hostile, coldest, and remote places on Earth that other Predators would not like to endure? That's kind of like extra bragging rights right there that no Young Blood can resist.
Quote from: Voodoo Magic on Aug 11, 2021, 07:35:17 PM
My belief is while the fans come up with explanations, Anderson just discarded established lore he didn't like. Esthetics of their steamy ancient ship in Predator 2 and video games? Nah, let's change it to cold hard human-like steel. Smart-Discs? Nah, those are lame frisbees. I'll replace them with Shurikens (which admittedly are also cool). Predators only come when it's hottest? Nah, Antarctica pyramid will be so cool on screen. Alien life cycle takes how many hours? Nah, let's make it fast!
I always thought the diverse in ship aesthetics are nice variation that do the extra nice work that reflects the Clans themselves. The Lost Tribe's ship reflects the usual Predator aesthetics with the steamy, hot, and orange reptilians theme while the Isolated Tribe's cold, dark silver, and blues reflect their hardened preference to extreme cold and heat. I do agree, however I did not like how future media used the AVP ships as the go to design for future ships. The Predator film is the greatest sin for this very reason, as the ship design and interior looked very plain and dull.
Can't be mad at Shurikens as in the end, lot of media used both Smart Disk and Shuriken designs so least people love em both.
Antarctica pyramid? Hell I wanted the film to be set in the future space in some colony somewhere but again, Fox had to be a bunch of cheap ass suits that wanted to go for that PG13 rating for the safe easy making money and not spending so much on the future setting that would have been costly in their eyes. Didn't like how humans worshiped Predators as gods angle at all either. More Ancient Alien nonsense I hated so much as it just downplays how ancient humanity can just surprise us with their amazing abilities to do things like build pyramids. Just bad decision overall.
There is no excuse for that Alien life cycle, that was just bad all the way.
The modern day setting was something John Davis wanted since he thought it would be 'scarier'. The pyramid sets were no less expensive than a space colony would've been.
The pyramid was from the original Alien script if I'm not mistaken.
And the Antarctic setting is similar to Lovecraft's At The Mountains Of Madness which also involves two alien species fighting.
The pyramid could be what netted O'Bannon and Shusett a story credit on the movie.
From memory it was.
Yet Shane Salerno, despite actively rewriting the script, didn't get an on-screen credit. How bizarre.
The Writer's Guild bizarrely and inconsistently applies its own rules. The weirdest one I've come across by far is for the first Tomb Raider movie, where something like four writers are credited, and their drafts have little in common with the film, which Simon West basically made up from scratch.
Quote from: Voodoo Magic on Aug 11, 2021, 07:35:17 PM
Yeah, geared up to fight Aliens. Again, as far as the Thomas Brothers goes, the netting was for camouflage - hence drawn by heat and conflict. If the netting is designed for warmth, Predators only need to be drawn to conflict, not heat - who cares about the climate.
But the camouflage reasoning is barely more valid than the heating thing. If anything, the novelisation is more accessible than the script (is intended to be.) Neither were on-screen explainations.
Quote from: SiL on Aug 12, 2021, 05:00:49 AM
From memory it was.
Yet Shane Salerno, despite actively rewriting the script, didn't get an on-screen credit. How bizarre.
It was. Anderson had admitted it in an interview, and it was brought up in the arbitration.
I always took the "drawn to heat" as more akin to finding most big game hunters going to Africa rather than freezing their nuts off for polar bears and tigers in Siberia.
It's not that they can't freeze their nuts off for polar bears and tigers -- they just don't want to.
I mean, City Hunter didn't seem to be particularly bothered by being in the meat locker until he had holes blown into him by Harrigan.
Just jumping into this one here.
Quote from: Voodoo Magic on Aug 11, 2021, 09:55:06 AM
Except Lex and crew wore a jacket through their entire duration inside the pyramid. So it certainly can't be deemed as hot, or even warm, or they would have stripped their jackets off - especially with all that running and surviving.
They actually did remove a layer:
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Also given there was a room in the pyramid with a good bit of water dripping, the energy of the structure being activated (described by the heat bloom) was likely melting some of the ice. Goes to reason it would be a bit warmer.
I've never had a problem with it myself, we saw them hunting in cold environments in the comics too, regardless if they were stranded or not, they seemed to handle it alright.
Quote from: Corporal Hicks on Aug 11, 2021, 01:36:18 PM
IIRC SiL means the AvP novelization?
Ah... so that's where I got the idea of heated netting: the AVP novelization.
I always took it as Predators liking an additional challenge in a form of an extreme heat (or cold) - not them being such a warm-loving pussies
That's the element of The Predator I actually DON"T LIKE - "Their planet is cooling down, oh no, so they decided to invade ours or whatever"
I thought the point was they wanted to hunt us as quickly as possible because we were killing ourselves with climate change?
... Or was that an earlier version? That film was a mess.
The most ludicrous take on Predators liking the heat comes from Concrete Jungle, the comic, where the Predators all leave in the middle of a massive fight because it starts to rain :laugh:
Oh yeah, they wanted to harvest our genes. Maybe Earth invasion was in earlier script ? I honestly don't remember
I actually liked Concrete Jungle ending 'cause it showcased how powerless Schaefer was against Predators - he would've been killed if not for nature's interference. And it's not Preds loving heat so much - it was end of a hunting season for them
Quote from: SiL on Aug 12, 2021, 06:34:26 AM
I always took the "drawn to heat" as more akin to finding most big game hunters going to Africa rather than freezing their nuts off for polar bears and tigers in Siberia.
I was grew up understanding this was steam, with a thankful validation that came when Stephen Hopkins said "We put dry ice in, just to make it feel like a hot environment they came from."
(https://www.avpgalaxy.net/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2019/12/lost-predator-ship-10.jpg)
Combing that knowlege with the Predators
only coming to hunt during the hottest times, it always implied to me that they need the heat... otherwise Predators would hunt
every year, versus only some years. Because why give up their favorite thing to do on Earth... hunt... if the temperature has only dropped 15 degrees Fahrenheit? Unless, there's some level of discomfort in the colder temperature that prevents them from comfortably doing so, at the very least.
Quote from: RidgeTop on Aug 12, 2021, 06:36:01 AM
I've never had a problem with it myself, we saw them hunting in cold environments in the comics too, regardless if they were stranded or not, they seemed to handle it alright.
Don't get me wrong, I like the idea of them in challenging environments too, I just personally wanted care for the existing lore from Anderson, just a quick in-movie compensation for the cold, something that doesn't make me *and Peter Briggs at least :laugh:* pause and say,
but Anna said...
Quote from: Voodoo Magic on Aug 12, 2021, 08:23:23 PM
I was grew up understanding this was steam, with a thankful validation that came when Stephen Hopkins said "We put dry ice in, just to make it feel like a hot environment they came from."
https://www.avpgalaxy.net/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2019/12/lost-predator-ship-10.jpg
Combing that knowlege with the Predators only coming to hunt during the hottest times, it always implied to me that they need the heat... otherwise Predators would hunt every year, versus only some years. Because why give up their favorite thing to do on Earth... hunt... if the temperature has only dropped 20 degrees Fahrenheit? Unless, there's some level of discomfort in the colder temperature that prevents them from comfortably doing so, at the very least.
But this can just as easily justify a reading of preferring a hot environment rather than
needing it. It shows us what temperatures they're most comfortable in.
As I said before, they're hunts of opportunity. They wait for it to be hot with lots of conflict and then go in and find the best of the best to hunt down because those are the best conditions to find good sport.
But in AvP they're on a specific mission, not opportunistically looking for game.
Don't get me wrong, I know exactly where you're coming from. I just think the on screen evidence allows sufficient room for interpretation.
To be honest, the Bovotoya hunt wasn't your regular trip. As SiL or Hicks rightly pointed out, it's probably the last such Pyramid on earth and this is probably last such hunt. It was used because all other were destroyed by the time of 2004. Also most of the hunt was conducted underground where conditions weren't as extreme as oustside. Also the heat spike came from inside of the Pyramid was potent enough to be registered be the satellite all through the ice cape. It must have been quite big. The Queen chamber, outside of freezing sarcophagus filled with some unknown cooling agent, was very hot, with visible streams of molten lava. I'd say Pyramid is quite warm inside and good place for hunt.
Quote from: SiL on Aug 12, 2021, 08:38:19 PM
Quote from: Voodoo Magic on Aug 12, 2021, 08:23:23 PM
I was grew up understanding this was steam, with a thankful validation that came when Stephen Hopkins said "We put dry ice in, just to make it feel like a hot environment they came from."
https://www.avpgalaxy.net/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2019/12/lost-predator-ship-10.jpg
Combing that knowlege with the Predators only coming to hunt during the hottest times, it always implied to me that they need the heat... otherwise Predators would hunt every year, versus only some years. Because why give up their favorite thing to do on Earth... hunt... if the temperature has only dropped 20 degrees Fahrenheit? Unless, there's some level of discomfort in the colder temperature that prevents them from comfortably doing so, at the very least.
But this can just as easily justify a reading of preferring a hot environment rather than needing it. It shows us what temperatures they're most comfortable in.
Yeah, that's what I was saying, at the very least there must be some level of discomfort in the "colder" hot jungle temperature.
QuoteAs I said before, they're hunts of opportunity. They wait for it to be hot with lots of conflict and then go in and find the best of the best to hunt down because those are the best conditions to find good sport.
This I'll never buy into to be honest. The conditions of war and bloodshed will be equally good or possibly better at 90 degrees Fahrenheit versus 105. But the Predators aren't coming.
QuoteBut in AvP they're on a specific mission, not opportunistically looking for game.
Don't get me wrong, I know exactly where you're coming from. I just think the on screen evidence allows sufficient room for interpretation.
Yeah, definitely, made extremely evident by me currently standing alone on an island with all this. :laugh:
Quote from: Voodoo Magic on Aug 12, 2021, 08:58:02 PM
This I'll never buy into to be honest. The conditions of war and bloodshed will be equally good or possibly better at 90 degrees Fahrenheit versus 105. But the Predators aren't coming.
Because they don't
want to hunt in 90 degree temperature. That's what I'm saying. It's not just ideal situation to find the game, it's ideal situations for
them for hunting.
I think there's ample proof throughout the movies that Predators, like humans, like stacking the deck in their favour as much as possible when they go on a hunt. Hunting in temperatures they're most comfortable in is part of that. Sure, they could go some other time when it's colder but just as bloody, but they'd be uncomfortable the whole time and their hands would get numb and it's just such a miserable affair.
Search your feelings, VooDoo. You know you disagree, but you also know you
can't prove me wrong :P
Quote from: SiL on Aug 12, 2021, 09:51:10 PM
Quote from: Voodoo Magic on Aug 12, 2021, 08:58:02 PM
This I'll never buy into to be honest. The conditions of war and bloodshed will be equally good or possibly better at 90 degrees Fahrenheit versus 105. But the Predators aren't coming.
Because they don't want to hunt in 90 degree temperature. That's what I'm saying. It's not just ideal situation to find the game, it's ideal situations for them for hunting.
I think there's ample proof throughout the movies that Predators, like humans, like stacking the deck in their favour as much as possible when they go on a hunt. Hunting in temperatures they're most comfortable in is part of that. Sure, they could go some other time when it's colder but just as bloody, but they'd be uncomfortable the whole time and their hands would get numb and it's just such a miserable affair.
Search your feelings, VooDoo. You know you disagree, but you also know you can't prove me wrong :P
Nah. We can't prove either wrong in this fictional universe, but I do believe your logic is faulty.
I'm a fan of the American Football team Philadelphia Eagles, so much so I go to outdoor games in September 70-85 °F, all the way to December in 10-35 °F and watch in the freezing cold with 70,000 other sold-out seats.
So if these Predators are a fan of hunting, they would certainly go in the tiny less hotter years (where we would still be sweating like hell in) to hunt. I don't think a little bit warmer stacks the deck for them, unless it
really effects them physiologically...
hence my point.Now apply that to Antarctica.
We're talking preferences - what you like, or what I like, really doesn't have anything to do with what a fictional organism might like.
It's also not a great comparison. Actual hunters won't hunt in certain seasons or certain weather conditions because they aren't favourable. That's closer to the mark than safely watching a game.
Hell, those sports players sometimes won't play if the conditions are wrong. It's very different comparing an activity you're active in, vs passively watching from the sidelines.
EDIT
For what it's worth, beef is stored in lockers around 1 degree Celsius, or 34f. That's much, much cooler than the stated 105f preference.
Yet City Hunter doesn't seem particularly bothered by it.
So either P2 shows they already have means of compensating, such as if the netting is heated, or cooler temperatures don't incapacitate them.
Humans also don't do great for too long at such low temperatures, but obviously you can walk into a freezer and not immediately keel over. Just like Harrigan does.
Quote from: SiL on Aug 12, 2021, 11:13:10 PM
We're talking preferences - what you like, or what I like, really doesn't have anything to do with what a fictional organism might like.
It's also not a great comparison. Actual hunters won't hunt in certain seasons or certain weather conditions because they aren't favourable. That's closer to the mark than safely watching a game.
Hell, those sports players sometimes won't play if the conditions are wrong. It's very different comparing an activity you're active in, vs passively watching from the sidelines.
No, hunting seasons are pretty much based on population control. There's plenty of hunters right here in Pennsylvania that would go all year long if they could!
Maybe not conveyed as well, but my comparison was more in regard to the vast degree difference we'll sit through not generating additional activity body heat to keep us warm, compared to the smaller degree difference they will / will not hunt in. Jungles are still damn hot!
But yes, go ahead and compare that to the American football players that are playing. They'll play in sweltering heat to below freezing temperatures, while it's snowing. (Lightning storm though - they're off the field. Too dangerous. )
So the original point still stands, if humid 100°F / 37 Celcius is no longer ideal to go have some fun hunting in a still sweltering (to us) jungle... that it affects Predators too much physiologically to run around and throw smart discs and shoot plasma casters, then the -35 °F/C average of Antarctica should be an outright death dealer for Scar, the Elder, any Predator that stands in it and doesn't compensate.
All I personally wanted to see was some extra effort put forth to show the audience Predators compensating for the cold in some way - via technology, medicine or apparel. A syringe shot resulting in their veins illuminating with a momentarily red glow. A breather mask of some sort (which would looked so cool). Then I would have been good-to-go based on the previous films internal logic. But staying consistent to lore for both creatures did not seem to be a priority to Anderson. What can ya do. I know it used to bother others in this community, maybe it was just the old timers, and me an Briggs are the only ones left complaining. Oh well
One more from you if ya want, then let's get back to Skulls! :)
I think at this point we're just shooting the shit, so let's return to Skulls!
Edit
... Although I'm still very curious how you explain the meat locker >_>
Quote from: SiL on Aug 13, 2021, 01:05:47 AM
... Although I'm still very curious how you explain the meat locker >_>
VOODO MAGIC! Fokin Voodo Magic Man, hahaha!
:laugh:
Quote from: SiL on Aug 13, 2021, 01:05:47 AM
... Although I'm still very curious how you explain the meat locker >_>
Sorry. I missed your edit when I replied. I wanted to give you the last word so we can get back on topic, so in the briefest way possible, meat lockers are not freezers and never below freezing. It can poorly affect hanging meat. That's where the City Hunter grabs his food. My assumption is he doesn't hang around in there, he kicks back on the roof or in his hot steamy ship. He wasn't prepared to have a battle in there. There was no opportunity for preparedness. One can even suggest the rebreather mask was used to help him overcome the cold - the Jungle Hunter didn't use it for his wounds or air quality after fighting Dutch while breathing Earth's oxygen.
Antarctica is far below freezing however, in subzero temperatures. That's a whole new level of ballgame. All the Predators knew the climate they were entering before hand, and I would have liked to see some visual preparedness. Small touches like the rebreather mask no one seems to spend time on these days. I miss the medkits. Those little details. 10 seconds spent showing your glowing netting idea in AvP I would have loved - making this discussion non-existent. :)
Quote from: Voodoo Magic on Aug 13, 2021, 12:48:32 PM
:laugh:
Quote from: SiL on Aug 13, 2021, 01:05:47 AM
... Although I'm still very curious how you explain the meat locker >_>
Those little details. 10 seconds spent showing your glowing netting idea in AvP I would have loved - making this discussion non-existent. :)
Not sure why but I'm now picturing perfect diamond sear marks, that are so hard to get right on a steak :laugh:
Quote from: 426Buddy on Aug 13, 2021, 02:07:34 PM
Quote from: Voodoo Magic on Aug 13, 2021, 12:48:32 PM
:laugh:
Quote from: SiL on Aug 13, 2021, 01:05:47 AM
... Although I'm still very curious how you explain the meat locker >_>
Those little details. 10 seconds spent showing your glowing netting idea in AvP I would have loved - making this discussion non-existent. :)
Not sure why but I'm now picturing perfect diamond sear marks, that are so hard to get right on a steak :laugh:
:laugh:
MmmmMmmm. Yum! Yum!
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Quote from: Voodoo Magic on Aug 13, 2021, 03:33:07 PM
https://wpcdn.us-east-1.vip.tn-cloud.net/www.hawaiihomemag.com/content/uploads/2021/02/Body1.jpg
Wow :o I won't be able to see the fishnet the same way.
How about now?
https://forum.predator.illfonic.com/t/the-female-predator-thread/15619/145
Quote from: Trash Queen on Aug 13, 2021, 04:21:04 PM
How about now?
https://forum.predator.illfonic.com/t/the-female-predator-thread/15619/145
(https://i.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/newsfeed/001/217/549/3e2.jpg)
Quote from: Voodoo Magic on Aug 13, 2021, 12:48:32 PM
[so in the briefest way possible, meat lockers are not freezers and never below freezing. It can poorly affect hanging meat. That's where the City Hunter grabs his food. My assumption is he doesn't hang around in there, he kicks back on the roof or in his hot steamy ship.
Thanks, but I actually mentioned the temperatures and wasn't implying the place was freezing. What I was really asking about is you repeatedly seemed to imply that even 90 degrees would put them out of commission vs 105, yet he's running around at 34 degrees without a care in the world.
Bringing it all back to Skulls - seeing a Predator hunt in a cold, miserable, foggy forest would be beautiful, and so long as they have a reason for it to be there in those conditions I'm all for it.
Quote from: SiL on Aug 13, 2021, 10:05:28 PM
Thanks, but I actually mentioned the temperatures and wasn't implying the place was freezing. What I was really asking about is you repeatedly seemed to imply that even 90 degrees would put them out of commission vs 105, yet he's running around at 34 degrees without a care in the world.
Putting them out a commission is a bit severe, but as I started this conversation a few pages back I suspected Predators may be cold blooded like lizards, which puts them at a disadvantage compared to warm-blooded animals because their metabolism slows, hence cold-blooded animals aren't active in the winter. It wouldn't happen with an instantaneous snap of a finger (or retrieving food from a meat warehouse), but rather a snowball effect. It fits the Thomas Brothers logic that is presented to us - of only in the hottest climates they hunt. And that's why I wanted to see an effort to upgrade the Predators' apparel and tech to compensate for the sub-zero temperatures in AvP, because they knew the climate they were entering. Common lizards can be found on every continent except Antartica ya know. :)
Here comes your AvP Galaxy full-time MD. Predators can't be cold blooded. They are to big for that. Even earth based lizards of certains size (like crocodiles) have constant body temperature. TBH AvP Preds do look quite different to all other Preds we've seen before. I bet this extra armor around chest has special warming unit. There problem solved!
Saw this rig from another angle in DD's IG story like a week ago. Should be an interesting "there's something in those trees..." scene
Quote from: Master on Aug 14, 2021, 03:24:29 PM
Here comes your AvP Galaxy full-time MD. Predators can't be cold blooded. They are to big for that. Even earth based lizards of certains size (like crocodiles) have constant body temperature. TBH AvP Preds do look quite different to all other Preds we've seen before. I bet this extra armor around chest has special warming unit. There problem solved!
Err, the biggest anaconda, the green anaconda is around 20 feet in length and they're cold blooded, but who am I to question our AVPG FT MD! ;D
(https://www.big-animals.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/02/Green_Anaconda.png)
But, yeah, who knows. The dream is getting the Thomas Brothers on a podcast to definitively answer all these things. Hopefully one day! Until then, we'll go with your armor idea. :)
Quote from: ace3g on Aug 14, 2021, 04:15:27 PM
Saw this rig from another angle in DD's IG story like a week ago. Should be an interesting "there's something in those trees..." scene
I hope we get a lot of the Predator jumping tree to tree to tree in "Predator5/ Skulls/ Skull/ Hunter/ Whatever". The Predator has seemed to lose its limberness as of late and I'd love to see it return!
Quote from: ace3g on Aug 14, 2021, 04:15:27 PM
Saw this rig from another angle in DD's IG story like a week ago. Should be an interesting "there's something in those trees..." scene
Anybody know what this kind of rig is for? Wire work, I'm guessing?
https://twitter.com/geno604/status/1426726729784074243
Quote from: Voodoo Magic on Aug 14, 2021, 04:31:54 PM
Quote from: Master on Aug 14, 2021, 03:24:29 PM
Here comes your AvP Galaxy full-time MD. Predators can't be cold blooded. They are to big for that. Even earth based lizards of certains size (like crocodiles) have constant body temperature. TBH AvP Preds do look quite different to all other Preds we've seen before. I bet this extra armor around chest has special warming unit. There problem solved!
Err, the biggest anaconda, the green anaconda is around 20 feet in length and they're cold blooded, but who am I to question our AVPG FT MD! ;D
Oh you. Yes, of course you are right. I'm 100% sure I read the article, that all kinds of cold-bloodness determine size of the animal and greatly decrease area of of their population. Maybe it was in context with dinosaurs.
To me you're still our resident AVPG FT MD though. We've been missing one of those! :)
Quote from: ace3g on Aug 15, 2021, 02:08:35 AM
https://twitter.com/geno604/status/1426726729784074243
"Stick around"
... for a trailer!(Just wishful thinking)
I hope that doesn't imply re-used dialogue. :-X
Get to the wigwam !
:laugh:
Quote from: Corporal Hicks on Aug 16, 2021, 09:08:22 AM
I hope that doesn't imply re-used dialogue. :-X
"
Come on, do it. I'm here, kill me. Come on!"
(https://i.ibb.co/d5972MQ/Screenshot-20210816-093137-You-Tube.jpg)
"
Do it now! Kill me!"
You can't throw my love of Predators at me with that one. I complain about it in Predators too. :P
I can see it: Warrior of one tribe stabs another with spear and says "stick around" in native.
Quote from: Master on Aug 16, 2021, 08:19:52 PM
I can see it: Warrior of one tribe stabs another with spear and says "stick around" in native.
I would walk out of the theater.
Similar thing was done in Predators.
Quote
Before his death Nikolai says, "Ну и рожа у тебя!" which can be roughly translated as, "What a mug you have!" as an attempt at "You're one ugly motherf**ker."
The thing is, Tracker Predator was still masked back then :D
Quote from: The Shuriken on Aug 16, 2021, 09:10:17 PM
Quote from: Master on Aug 16, 2021, 08:19:52 PM
I can see it: Warrior of one tribe stabs another with spear and says "stick around" in native.
I would walk out of the theater.
No, you won't
Quote from: Master on Aug 16, 2021, 10:23:12 PM
Similar thing was done in Predators.
Quote
Before his death Nikolai says, "Ну и рожа у тебя!" which can be roughly translated as, "What a mug you have!" as an attempt at "You're one ugly motherf**ker."
The thing is, Tracker Predator was still masked back then :D
As much as I loathe that particular sequel trend, this one is fine because it doesn't pull you out the movie unless you speak Russian.
Quote from: Master on Aug 16, 2021, 08:19:52 PM
I can see it: Warrior of one tribe stabs another with spear and says "stick around" in native.
And on the vein of above, I'd be fine with this one.
Quote from: Corporal Hicks on Aug 17, 2021, 07:49:36 AM
Quote from: Master on Aug 16, 2021, 10:23:12 PM
Similar thing was done in Predators.
Quote
Before his death Nikolai says, "Ну и рожа у тебя!" which can be roughly translated as, "What a mug you have!" as an attempt at "You're one ugly motherf**ker."
The thing is, Tracker Predator was still masked back then :D
As much as I loathe that particular sequel trend, this one is fine because it doesn't pull you out the movie unless you speak Russian.
I do
Quote from: Kradan on Aug 17, 2021, 07:52:54 AM
I do
"
And isn't it cool?"
Nimród Antal and Robert Rodriguez high fives.
DD had to redact whatever he was wearing in photo, hmmmm....
** Tom Woodruff Jr. and Alec Gillis on set.
DD and Kyle recent Stories showing nigh time
https://i.imgur.com/fUjvPnPh.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/xkSM3yk.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/peoaSe9.jpg
Alec Gillis IG story on set. Night time. So I guess the film is almost done shooting. the end will probably be set at night.
https://tinyurl.com/tdtyxk56
Possible that they didn't shoot in order also, who knows.
Per the Local 212 union schedule, Skulls wraps August 28th, so they're now into their last week of filming.
Quote from: BigDaddyJohn on Aug 21, 2021, 12:06:53 PM
Possible that they didn't shoot in order also, who knows.
You almost never shoot in order. You typically block night shoots together to make it easier on the crew, so these scenes are possibly throughout the film.
But I'd be surprised if it's not at least partly the ending.
A few more IG stories
I think we're gonna get a really cool and atmospheric action film this time. Hopefully they have some surprises up their sleeves so it doesn't feel too derivative of the orignal one
Everything else aside the location looks fantastic. Hopefully the rest delivers.
First Look at creatures in Predator 5/Skull(s):
Spoiler
https://www.instagram.com/p/CS7ISj3vfC_/?utm_medium=copy_link
What are those? Cougar cubs?
Larger photo
Spoiler
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/E9hUgrvWEAESWon?format=jpg&name=large)
Those look like stuffed animals, I mean look at the ears.
In before Voodoo cracks an ADI FX joke, are we sure this is from Skulls? Or that it's not just an outtake or something?
Quote from: RidgeTop on Aug 24, 2021, 02:57:47 AM
Those look like stuffed animals, I mean look at the ears.
In before Voodoo cracks an ADI FX joke, are we sure this is from Skulls? Or that it's not just an outtake or something?
I think it looks like the person in the shot is wearing modern shoes so it might be a test or not from Skulls at all
Quote from: ace3g on Aug 24, 2021, 01:56:37 AM
Larger photo
Spoiler
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/E9hUgrvWEAESWon?format=jpg&name=large)
Little Sasquatches? BigFootConfirmed#
Quote from: Master on Aug 24, 2021, 01:48:52 PM
Little Sasquatches? BigFootConfirmed#
(https://media.tenor.com/images/314a7ba86e24d67040c417cac74f24fc/tenor.gif)
The skulls on the Predators necklaces come from those cute little things.
:laugh:
It's
Spoiler
our main character lying unconscious on the ground and local animals reviving here because she's into contact with nature or something.
(https://www.peta.org/wp-content/uploads/2019/04/Pocahontas-with-Raccoon-and-Hummingbird.png)
Only joking offcourse.
DD playing a bear confirmed.
Primal Predator versus Bear action confirmed!
(https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/I/A1Zr0aIRvPL.jpg)
Man I love that "Oh shit." visible expression.
From Jeff Cutter's IG story today
haha not a bad morning commute when the only thing one has to worry about are hungry bears. Beautiful scenery.
Skulls plural, Mr. Davis.....
(https://i.ibb.co/5hWMNQZ/Screenshot-20210828-094942-Instagram.jpg)
What type of Skull is that, I wonder...
Quite possibly, a bear.
(https://i.ibb.co/C5LgwrJ/Screenshot-20210828-095955-Google.jpg)
Quote from: Voodoo Magic on Aug 28, 2021, 02:02:20 PM
Quite possibly, a bear.
(https://i.ibb.co/C5LgwrJ/Screenshot-20210828-095955-Google.jpg)
I could easily see that - love a giant Grizzly bear vs Predator fight!!!
Predator could go invisible and just kill the bear, no?
Unless he'd go for a "fair" fight.
Yeah I think it's impossible at this point that they don't make the big animal fight happen.
Quote from: Baron Von Marlon on Aug 29, 2021, 06:12:33 AM
Predator could go invisible and just kill the bear, no?
Unless he'd go for a "fair" fight.
They could. Like a dude in camouflage perched in a tree picking off deer... or the Jungle Hunter picking off Dutch's team.
But some human hunters to this day hunt Bear with spears, which apparently ups the challenge, danger and intensity level, and subsequently the rewarding feeling of "accomplishment". So I can see Predators hunting bear in both ways.
Quote from: BigDaddyJohn on Aug 29, 2021, 11:08:13 AM
Yeah I think it's impossible at this point that they don't make the big animal fight happen.
Let's hope! If not the Sasquatch... the bear!
(https://thumbs.gfycat.com/DeadlyBasicEuropeanfiresalamander-max-1mb.gif)
Hell yeah !
Bear fight!!
New Predator Film "Skulls" Production Update & Speculation
https://www.avpgalaxy.net/2021/08/29/new-predator-film-skulls-production-update-speculation/
(https://media.makeameme.org/created/bear-grylls-approves-2dc8cb592d.jpg)
Quote from: Voodoo Magic on Aug 29, 2021, 12:28:41 PM
Quote from: Baron Von Marlon on Aug 29, 2021, 06:12:33 AM
Predator could go invisible and just kill the bear, no?
Unless he'd go for a "fair" fight.
They could. Like a dude in camouflage perched in a tree picking off deer... or the Jungle Hunter picking off Dutch's team.
But some human hunters to this day hunt Bear with spears, which apparently ups the challenge, danger and intensity level, and subsequently the rewarding feeling of "accomplishment". So I can see Predators hunting bear in both ways.
Quote from: BigDaddyJohn on Aug 29, 2021, 11:08:13 AM
Yeah I think it's impossible at this point that they don't make the big animal fight happen.
Let's hope! If not the Sasquatch... the bear!
https://thumbs.gfycat.com/DeadlyBasicEuropeanfiresalamander-max-1mb.gif
No brother. We must not agree with half measures. It's good mandibles or bad. It's Sasquatch or gtfo.
Im down for Bear vs Predator
Quote from: ace3g on Aug 24, 2021, 01:56:37 AM
Larger photo
Spoiler
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Riding the bear train here but what if those are supposed to be bear cubs?
Hmm, hard to tell, but maybe? Bear cubs are quite different looking when they're babies...
I think from a Predator's point of view a bear is a cool creature, but not a worthy opponent to hunt.
As there isn't much hunting to do me think. A bear is more about brute force than strategic and skilled fighting.
But what if it's a another kind of bear. Like a big hairy gay guy. A god damned homosexual tyrannosaurus!
Quote from: Voodoo Magic on Aug 29, 2021, 07:26:43 PM
New Predator Film "Skulls" Production Update & Speculation
https://www.avpgalaxy.net/2021/08/29/new-predator-film-skulls-production-update-speculation/
Predators face in that comic cover is literally this lol:
:o
Quote from: RidgeTop on Aug 24, 2021, 02:57:47 AM
Those look like stuffed animals, I mean look at the ears.
In before Voodoo cracks an ADI FX joke, are we sure this is from Skulls? Or that it's not just an outtake or something?
They're trolling Voodoo! :laugh: you know - cos jaw criticism. :laugh:
ADI: So this guy who doesn't like our Predator mouths wants a Sasquatch in the next movie? 🐻
(https://s9.gifyu.com/images/the-grinch-evil-smile.gif)
Quote from: Immortan Jonesy on Aug 30, 2021, 11:22:49 AM
Quote from: RidgeTop on Aug 24, 2021, 02:57:47 AM
Those look like stuffed animals, I mean look at the ears.
In before Voodoo cracks an ADI FX joke, are we sure this is from Skulls? Or that it's not just an outtake or something?
They're trolling Voodoo! :laugh: you know - cos jaw criticism. :laugh:
ADI: So this guy who doesn't like our Predator mouths wants a Sasquatch in the next movie? 🐻
https://s9.gifyu.com/images/the-grinch-evil-smile.gif
lol, you troublemaker! :laugh:
No, ADI wouldn't be doing the Sasquatch. Patrick Magee created Dane's bigfoot suit:
https://www.instagram.com/p/CR7Ki3RrS5t/?utm_medium=copy_link
An no, I don't have to make a joke about ADI Predators.....
Spoiler
The joke is already on screen...
(https://media.tenor.com/images/4e75d5a25762ab570701abf43fc6bfc5/tenor.gif)
:laugh:
*Again, as someone who was just wishing they went with ADI's Green Goblin on another thread, I do not dislike everything they create. Just their Predators, which have clearly not been their strong suit. :)
Saberspark reviews the comic Predator: Primal https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=shrn5OOMBxM
Latest IG stories from cast / crew
. This is great news about the look or feel of the film. And the grizzly skull.
Loving the settings for this film.
I just need a peek at the Predator...c'mon!
a yautja fighting a bear sounds pretty sick i'm not gonna lie
Maybe a Predator wristblade gauntlet or a plasmacaster (if there happens to be a caster) but I rather keep the design a secret until the film or at least the trailer. We get too spoiled these days that having anticipation is a great reward in itself as you see the full reveal of the Predator in said trailer or film.
If this is just a straight up remake of revenant but replacing leo with a predator, this movie will be a classic. Dont have to explain it, just a predator hanging out with some dudes in the wild
Quote from: Mr.Turok on Aug 31, 2021, 05:38:37 AM
Maybe a Predator wristblade gauntlet or a plasmacaster (if there happens to be a caster) but I rather keep the design a secret until the film or at least the trailer. We get too spoiled these days that having anticipation is a great reward in itself as you see the full reveal of the Predator in said trailer or film.
Don't want a repeat of The Predator with Fugitive leaking on the merchandise or Predators with Mr.Black leaking on set photos. Especially the unmasked head getting leaked, that's your money shot and you wanna save that.
Mystery is good, but just a little sneak peak would be cool, nothing more.
I always thought AvP's original teaser was pretty cool.
For Skulls, I'm still holding out hope the film is not promoted as a Predator film, but rather a mysterious period piece monster film. But alas, if they do wear "Predator" on their promotional sleeve, please don't show us the creature, not even in the trailer(s).
If it is full disclosure that they're indeed going for, I would definitely love something in the vein of this for the teaser, but alas, trailer narration has gone the way of the dinosaurs as of late. :-\
This time it will be good, I can feel it.
It would be cool if the native(s) find the spaceship too.
Yeah, the girl will be taken and becomes emancipated among Predators.
Quote from: Voodoo Magic on Aug 31, 2021, 02:50:19 PM
For Skulls, I'm still holding out hope the film is not promoted as a Predator film, but rather a mysterious period piece monster film. But alas, if they do wear "Predator" on their promotional sleeve, please don't show us the creature, not even in the trailer(s).
If it is full disclosure that they're indeed going for, I would definitely love something in the vein of this for the teaser, but alas, trailer narration has gone the way of the dinosaurs as of late. :-\
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HRTpPtWv64M
I'm with you on this. So many scenes are given away in trailers nowadays.
I was big fan of this trailer. When the multiple lasers hit Royce, I was like :o ! It gave me just enough to want more!
I love minimalist clothing designs like this.
If you're worried about trailers spoiling things, just don't watch them.
You're gonna watch the movie anyway, so why bother? It'll only ruin the element of surprise and wonder of watching something for the very first time, which imo is an important part of the whole movie viewing experience.
Quote from: ace3g on Sep 01, 2021, 04:09:29 AM
I love minimalist clothing designs like this.
Yeah, same, I really dig that!
Quote from: Baron Von Marlon on Sep 01, 2021, 04:50:32 AM
If you're worried about trailers spoiling things, just don't watch them.
You're gonna watch the movie anyway, so why bother? It'll only ruin the element of surprise and wonder of watching something for the very first time, which imo is an important part of the whole movie viewing experience.
Any theatergoer here in the U.S. is inundated with trailers before every film. And before you say close your eyes and wear ear plugs for 20 minutes...
Today's decorum is the content within film trailers is public knowledge. There's no spoiling trailers. So for anyone trying to avoid a spoiler image... say what the Predator will look like... will be flooded with that image via screencaps headlining new articles, videos, and in your social media streams between the the time of the trailer and the film's release, regardless if you click on the content or not.
(https://media2.giphy.com/media/LB4r67Dk0bhOU/giphy.gif?cid=6c09b95232e564d375be35ab1035feadad19e9b356e3c8f7&rid=giphy.gif)
Quote from: SuperiorIronman on Aug 29, 2021, 10:24:28 PM
Quote from: ace3g on Aug 24, 2021, 01:56:37 AM
Larger photo
Spoiler
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Riding the bear train here but what if those are supposed to be bear cubs?
Given Dan's caption, would it make sense that these are rats? Doesn't look like rats but that's Henry Jone's worse nightmare apparently.
Sick merch
Blood!
I still can't believe we're getting another Predator film so soon.
@426Buddy
Mine as well make one before the lawsuit court dates ;D
Its going to bleed confirmed
New location set video from Dane's IG story
Quote from: Voodoo Magic on Sep 01, 2021, 11:06:20 AM
Any theatergoer here in the U.S. is inundated with trailers before every film. And before you say close your eyes and wear ear plugs for 20 minutes...
Today's decorum is the content within film trailers is public knowledge. There's no spoiling trailers. So for anyone trying to avoid a spoiler image... say what the Predator will look like... will be flooded with that image via screencaps headlining new articles, videos, and in your social media streams between the the time of the trailer and the film's release, regardless if you click on the content or not.
https://media2.giphy.com/media/LB4r67Dk0bhOU/giphy.gif?cid=6c09b95232e564d375be35ab1035feadad19e9b356e3c8f7&rid=giphy.gif
I don't go to the theatre. If so I'd mess about on my phone and/or listen to music during the trailers.
What do you mean by "there's no spoiling trailers"? Don't trailers spoil things?
IF and that's IF you really want to, you can avoid a lot. Unless you're an active member of the AvP scene, like a moderator on fansite or something ;)
In my social circle I'm the only "nerd" when it comes to this stuff. So no one I know will be posting or telling me about it.
Pre having seen Covenant, a local website posted a picture that was a small spoiler. So I quit visiting that site. And many others for a period of time.
Since I don't go theatres, I had to wait until an official online version was released. That's a longer wait while there's even more info online.
Wasn't easy but I managed. Didn't see any footage before watching and didn't know too much.
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I'm definitely not reading a script before seeing this movie! Learned my lesson from The Predator
Quote from: Baron Von Marlon on Sep 04, 2021, 04:53:17 PM
What do you mean by "there's no spoiling trailers"? Don't trailers spoil things?
He means people don't consider it a spoiler to mention something that's shown in a trailer so they don't put images or references in spoiler tags.
Quote from: SiL on Sep 04, 2021, 08:19:47 PM
He means people don't consider it a spoiler to mention something that's shown in a trailer so they don't put images or references in spoiler tags.
Ah. Yeah, that's true. And it's a bitch.
A certain site does it all the time. You'll see some title like "The new trailer for movie x reveals the monster in all it's glory!" with a picture of the monster right next to it. I hate it. Wish they just used the name logo of the movie and let people see for themselves (if they want to).
Or you'll get articles where they analyze some event or scene of a movie. A movie that's been out in the theatres for less than a week.
Let's say it was Alien 3, probably would've gotten something like "Ripley's suicide: a look on self-sacrifice in movies".
Finally, a Predator movie for people who hated the first Predator movie. This forum will love it!
Quote from: Sabres21768 on Aug 31, 2021, 03:21:09 AM
I just need a peek at the Predator...c'mon!
They can't hide it from us. Someone will leak it, only a matter of time.
From Kyle's IG story. probably nothing, but notice the sketch panels on the bottom
https://i.imgur.com/n2WhwLn.jpg
You won't see him. The predator is a well known method actor.
I bet it'll look like the predator.
Latest photo IG stories.
You guys think that's generic pred merch or is that the design for the film?
Looks like jungle hunter but a lil different. No shoulder canon
I'll take a wild guess it's generic. I don't think Kyle would spoil it like that.
But stranger things have happened.
Yeah I think it's just Jungle Hunter
It looks like it's random predator gear that some fan gifted him. Judging by the captions anyway
Alastair is a Predator cosplayer who runs a Jungle Hunter kit. I see him on Twitter and Instagram fairly often in his costume. Even looking up Alastair29 you'll get him fairly easy.
Well question answered there :)
Latest IG story from Alec Gillis
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yq0r8p17BYI&
Based on his Instagram account, it looks like Kyle Strauts flew home, so it appears he's done.
Only four days left of filming! (unless it's bumped again)
Quote from: Baron Von Marlon on Sep 04, 2021, 09:45:59 PM
Quote from: SiL on Sep 04, 2021, 08:19:47 PM
He means people don't consider it a spoiler to mention something that's shown in a trailer so they don't put images or references in spoiler tags.
Ah. Yeah, that's true. And it's a bitch.
A certain site does it all the time. You'll see some title like "The new trailer for movie x reveals the monster in all it's glory!" with a picture of the monster right next to it. I hate it. Wish they just used the name logo of the movie and let people see for themselves (if they want to).
Or you'll get articles where they analyze some event or scene of a movie. A movie that's been out in the theatres for less than a week.
Let's say it was Alien 3, probably would've gotten something like "Ripley's suicide: a look on self-sacrifice in movies".
Yep, precisely.
Why have we heard nothing about casting? I remember the good old days when you could go to imdb and see cast.
Quote from: Billiken on Sep 06, 2021, 12:40:12 PM
Why have we heard nothing about casting? I remember the good old days when you could go to imdb and see cast.
Remember traditional theatrical releases, where we'd know the release date before they start filming, so other studios wouldn't crowd the weekend?
https://www.instagram.com/p/CTk51xkgHda/?utm_medium=copy_link
Well, uh... looks like we may have our bear.
Courtesy of Mikey
Cue the manscaped ads.
Is that some fake snow I see on the suit?
Will we finally have a proper Pred in the snow?
Looks more like dirt
Man I hope ADI does a decent job in this film...
Quote from: Voodoo Magic on Sep 09, 2021, 01:57:59 AM
Man I hope ADI does a decent job in this film...
the super crabator is coming
And there it is :o
There is a possibility that the practical bear is for lighting reference for a CG effect, ala the Covenant Alien on set.
Quote from: Voodoo Magic on Sep 09, 2021, 01:57:59 AM
Man I hope ADI does a decent job in this film...
Set your expectations to below zero, then you'll never disappointed.
New BTS vids from Dane's IG stories
Quote from: ace3g on Sep 09, 2021, 03:41:36 AM
New BTS vids from Dane's IG stories
Nice finds.
Have always wanted a Predator movie in a mountainous forest. And while we got a taste of that in The Predator, mostly in the lackluster reshoots bits, it's good to see that'll be the primary setting here.
Quote from: PAS Spinelli on Sep 09, 2021, 02:09:21 AM
the super crabator is coming
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Quote from: The Shuriken on Sep 09, 2021, 02:24:29 AM
Quote from: Voodoo Magic on Sep 09, 2021, 01:57:59 AM
Man I hope ADI does a decent job in this film...
Set your expectations to below zero, then you'll never disappointed.
:laugh:
Quote from: RidgeTop on Sep 09, 2021, 04:40:56 AM
Have always wanted a Predator movie in a mountainous forest.
You telling me you still haven't seen
Predator? :laugh:
Quote from: SiL on Sep 09, 2021, 04:53:31 AM
Quote from: RidgeTop on Sep 09, 2021, 04:40:56 AM
Have always wanted a Predator movie in a mountainous forest.
You telling me you still haven't seen Predator? :laugh:
You know what I mean! ;) Alpine forest, as opposed to tropical which we've seen aplenty.
Quote from: RidgeTop on Sep 08, 2021, 10:42:12 PM
https://www.instagram.com/p/CTk51xkgHda/?utm_medium=copy_link
Well, uh... looks like we may have our bear.
Courtesy of Mikey
Sasquatch would've been fresh and unexpected. Bear is... well disappointing 😞
Big Foot would have been cooler. But bear is still cool imho. It's not like we've seen a Predator go up against another Earth-bound creature on the big screen yet and I welcome it!
You know, Sasquatch would've been a comeback to shere crazyness of 80'/90' where anything could happen on screen. They were close to the narrative that gave us Predator on screen in first place. With Bear, you have nod to Revenant but with Predator instead of DiCaprio. Don't get me wrong, it can be cool and I hope it will be, but instead of something really hot, we've got only lukewarm.
I think that's unfair. It's a theatrical debut for the Predator to actually go up against a bear! And that's a fight against an expectation that we all concocted. If the choreography is great, I think it can just as good being against a creature grounded in reality. Don't get me wrong, I would have totally loved Big Foot, but it's unfair to call a bear a lukewarm alternative - especially when we haven't seen it.
I'm 100% rooting for a pred vs bear scene, but it's still possible the animal will be featured in a hunt/fight sequence with comanches only, in order to demonstrate how skilled and badass they are.
I do hope the bear will be shown first as attacking Kee and her brother, and then being killed by the predator, appearing for the first time to their eyes.
Thank f**k the Bigfoot thing's not gonna happen.
Original movies required elite soldiers/policeman to kill a Predator. Now Predators will be killed by teenagers. No doubt its gonna be a shitty movie.
I'm actually very, very surprised Dan Trachtenberg showed us this practical fx bear. It seems a very odd pre-release share, considering the movie isn't about a bear nor titled "The Bear". That kind of behind-the-scenes share is usually reserved for afterwards, once we know there is a bear featured in the film.
Maybe Dan is a regular reader of Alien vs. Predator Galaxy and believes the C̶a̶t̶ Bear is already out of the bag. I actually wouldn't be shocked by that.
Imagine the bear helping out Kee to defeat the pred, or maybe its the other way around ;D
Quote from: Sad fan on Sep 09, 2021, 12:31:04 PM
Original movies required elite soldiers/policeman to kill a Predator. Now Predators will be killed by teenagers. No doubt its gonna be a shitty movie.
Register so I can ignore you.
Quote from: Trash Queen on Sep 09, 2021, 01:09:25 PM
Register so I can ignore you.
:laugh:
Sad fan is indeed quite pessimistic.
Quote from: Trash Queen on Sep 09, 2021, 01:09:25 PM
Quote from: Sad fan on Sep 09, 2021, 12:31:04 PM
Original movies required elite soldiers/policeman to kill a Predator. Now Predators will be killed by teenagers. No doubt its gonna be a shitty movie.
Register so I can ignore you.
Quote from: Huggs on Aug 15, 2021, 08:43:12 PM
Quote from: Kane's other son on Aug 15, 2021, 08:33:13 PM
Time to take away posting privileges from guests
But it's so much fun watching people with names like "angrypredatorfan" or "disappointedfan" freak out over nothing.
Quote from: Clubroot on Sep 09, 2021, 01:00:59 PM
Imagine the bear helping out Kee to defeat the pred, or maybe its the other way around ;D
Like in AvP? So... AvB?
Might be that in looking for Kee the Predator gets the bear instead leading to it getting mauled. It'd be amusing if we even get our own Roland Tembo scene out of it.
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Ha, indeed!
Quote from: Stitch on Sep 09, 2021, 01:21:14 PM
Quote from: Clubroot on Sep 09, 2021, 01:00:59 PM
Imagine the bear helping out Kee to defeat the pred, or maybe its the other way around ;D
Like in AvP? So... AvB?
PvBvKee!
aww, I don't want to see a bear getting killed by a Predator.
Bear: Eating salmon with some berries on the side.
Predator: Kill mode activated.
I just hope the bear leaves the Predator with a nice scar across its chest to remember it by. ;D
Does the bear have autism?
I hope we get a training montage of Kee and the Bear preparing to fight the Predator....
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haha the Pred would go live on their Pred FB to show its family/friends back home.
Though, it's possible we'll see something like this:
Quote from: BigDaddyJohn on Sep 09, 2021, 12:05:47 PM
I'm 100% rooting for a pred vs bear scene, but it's still possible the animal will be featured in a hunt/fight sequence with comanches only, in order to demonstrate how skilled and badass they are.
I do hope the bear will be shown first as attacking Kee and her brother, and then being killed by the predator, appearing for the first time to their eyes.
@Voodoo Magic
;D ;D ;D
Quote from: Voodoo Magic on Sep 09, 2021, 02:31:15 PM
I hope we get a training montage of Kee and the Bear preparing to fight the Predator....
https://media2.giphy.com/media/fQbJLUt3D8Rpe/giphy.gif?cid=6c09b952c3a38ffacea98d03af2e7086a09177d48be9d931&rid=giphy.gif
The enemy of my enemy is my friend...
For a weird reason, it brings back bad memories though ;D
It would be cool to see the bear with the glowing blood on it's maw and claws. If the Predator is mauled and wounded severely by the animal it would be a good call, change the dynamic a little. That bear suit does not look promising, bear's paw shape is way different and the claws should look intimidating. Maybe stand in for CG?
Quote from: Corporal Hicks on Sep 09, 2021, 11:46:20 AM
I think that's unfair. It's a theatrical debut for the Predator to actually go up against a bear! And that's a fight against an expectation that we all concocted. If the choreography is great, I think it can just as good being against a creature grounded in reality. Don't get me wrong, I would have totally loved Big Foot, but it's unfair to call a bear a lukewarm alternative - especially when we haven't seen it.
I don't want to be unfair. I'm far from it. I want to be understood the right way. In late 80's and early 90's nearly everything could go on screen. Hollywood was much braver back then and it's not surprising many of its best products were created back then. Crazy stuff like Predator vs Sasquatch is going back to the roots of 80/90's prime with this bravery I think Hollywood has lost through the years. The bear sequence will, rightly so, be compared to Oscar winning Revenant. Is such sequence can be good? Yeah, of course it can. Is such sequence can become a legend? I don't think so, as Revenant done that not long time ago and with DiCaprio. The Sasquatch sequence could have been legendary and something people would talk about for long time. Bear will be good, but mostly for the fans of Predator.
No offense but Predator vs Big Foot is a terrible idea. :laugh:
I'm really glad they didn't go that route.
Quote from: 426Buddy on Sep 09, 2021, 06:11:11 PM
No offense but Predator vs Big Foot is a terrible idea. :laugh:
I'm really glad they didn't go that route.
Yer birthday date sir?
1985, why?
Quote from: 426Buddy on Sep 09, 2021, 06:27:08 PM
1985, why?
You are in proper age Sir to understand exactly why Sasquatch vs Predator is exactly what we need. 80's is the way for Predator!
Spoiler
;)
It almost all the time depends on execution though.
Jokes on us! it's just a wildlife documentary! ;D
I'm in camp "Predator vs Sasquatch is ridiculous and we dodged a bullet".
Quote from: SiL on Sep 09, 2021, 08:34:14 PM
I'm in camp "Predator vs Sasquatch is ridiculous and we dodged a bullet".
Yep.
Not necessarily Sasquatch, but I'm in camp "Predator vs. something non-human it's not that bad".
Quote from: Immortan Jonesy on Sep 09, 2021, 09:21:41 PM
Not necessarily Sasquatch, but I'm in camp "Predator vs. something non-human it's not that bad".
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Quote from: Immortan Jonesy on Sep 09, 2021, 09:21:41 PM
Not necessarily Sasquatch, but I'm in camp "Predator vs. something non-human it's not that bad".
I also like AvP, yes.
Quote from: SiL on Sep 09, 2021, 08:34:14 PM
I'm in camp "Predator vs Sasquatch is ridiculous and we dodged a bullet".
Guess I'm the black sheep. I was not opposed to the idea.
How are you the black sheep? There seem to be more people for the idea than against it.
I wouldn't mind seeing the predator go squatchin'.
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It would be interesting because there is a lot of documented encounters between Native Americans and the Sasquatch that occurred centuries ago, so there's a lot of history to play with. And it would be wild that this was the creature that Predators originally intended to hunt on Earth... but the Comanche prove that ultimately humans are the bigger game.
I think the Windigo would have been a great idea with the setting. It's a Cree legend but could have been interesting. The budget would have to be large though which I don't think "Skulls" has. All for the Predator hunting all kinds of Big Game.
Earth has plenty of rad wildlife for a Predator to fight to not need mythical beasts in the mix. I understand the appeal, it's just not for me.
Is there some kind of hunting code mentioned in the comics?
Because I'm curious. Let's say it's pred vs bear. Is he allowed to use all his weapons? Or is he limited to only his claw because a bear has claws and that would make it kinda fair.
Quote from: SiL on Sep 10, 2021, 12:27:32 AMEarth has plenty of rad wildlife for a Predator to fight to not need mythical beasts in the mix.
Plenty? I can only think of a few besides a bear.
A large crocodile/alligator if it's able to sneak up on him and drag him under water.
A gorilla maybe? If the pred fights without any of his weapons. And both only use sticks and stones.
Quote from: Baron Von Marlon on Sep 10, 2021, 01:24:31 AM
Is there some kind of hunting code mentioned in the comics?
Depends on the comic but yes. Limiting your weapons to maximise the challenge is mentioned.
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Plenty? I can only think of a few besides a bear.
And that's plenty for me.
Lions, tigees, bears...
New IG story photo.
Also IMDb has a new crew member listing.
Javier Arrieta ... costume supervisor
Quote from: 426Buddy on Sep 10, 2021, 01:46:16 AM
Lions, tigees, bears...
Oh my.
A wolf pack could also be interesting.
Gimme that crocodile action though.
Quote from: SiL on Sep 10, 2021, 01:59:10 AM
Quote from: 426Buddy on Sep 10, 2021, 01:46:16 AM
Lions, tigees, bears...
Oh my.
A wolf pack could also be interesting.
Gimme that crocodile action though.
I like that, though I think a wolf pack would only harass a Predator rather than try and hunt it. Lions and Tigers are an entirely different story.
Now some Predator vs Pol Pot action would be great!
First the Predator gets f**ked up fighting a bear, then as it tries to make its way back to camp it gets tracked by a wolf pack out for green meat. Bring it.
Tigers hunt solo and like most (big) cats basically have one attack move that's the sneak run jump.
If the pred's allowed to use his claw, I don't see it as that big of a challenge.
Lions hunt in groups, that would be different.
And one pred vs a group doesn't seem fair. But maybe there's a crazy pred out there looking for challenge.
Personally give me a big croc or gator encounter.
Possibly with predator talking sounds translated as "Crickey. Got a real big one over here."
(https://i.pinimg.com/736x/2c/98/40/2c9840554d60be07cab53b7b4f9b8ddb--indian-tribes-crocs.jpg)
While doing an image search, I got results mentioning native Americans being involved in alligator wrestling. Turns out it originated from their old hunting techniques, because they used to hunt and eat them.
"Choot em!"
Quote from: SiL on Sep 10, 2021, 02:30:06 AM
First the Predator gets f**ked up fighting a bear, then as it tries to make its way back to camp it gets tracked by a wolf pack out for green meat. Bring it.
And then when it tries to get back to its ship, a great white attacks!
(https://c.tenor.com/9K8pOWUlHqAAAAAC/batman-shark.gif)
As he fights it off, he accidentally sets his self destruct.
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Imagine if that was the finnal look of the bear. No cgi. Chucky cheese pizza animatronics
Quote from: Voodoo Magic on Sep 10, 2021, 04:21:11 AM
Quote from: SiL on Sep 10, 2021, 02:30:06 AM
First the Predator gets f**ked up fighting a bear, then as it tries to make its way back to camp it gets tracked by a wolf pack out for green meat. Bring it.
And then when it tries to get back to its ship, a great white attacks!
https://c.tenor.com/9K8pOWUlHqAAAAAC/batman-shark.gif
:laugh:
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Well, for local NA wildlife that can do a Predator some damage would be bears, wolves, bobcats, and cougars. Not much, but it would have some interesting fights. Its kind of why the idea of a Predator hunting right at the end of the Ice Age sounds like a great stand alone story to me, seeing how there was so much more deadlier wildlife back then like terror birds, short faced bears, dire wolves, sabertooth cats, american lion, and so much more, with the addition of a true first Predator encounter with ancient man. It was simply such a more brutal place to be around.
For reference, this is a short faced bear which can be around 12-15ft tall standing up and hit the pounds by +1,000
(https://i.pinimg.com/originals/d2/fc/73/d2fc73041d388cf95bdb95cb55c13bc3.jpg)
This can definitely give the Predator a good hunt
Quote from: Mr.Turok on Sep 10, 2021, 06:15:27 AM
Well, for local NA wildlife that can do a Predator some damage would be bears, wolves, bobcats, and cougars. Not much, but it would have some interesting fights.
Not much ? A big bear could totally wreck a pred IMO.
Quote from: Mr.Turok on Sep 10, 2021, 06:15:27 AM
Well, for local NA wildlife that can do a Predator some damage would be bears, wolves, bobcats, and cougars. Not much, but it would have some interesting fights. Its kind of why the idea of a Predator hunting right at the end of the Ice Age sounds like a great stand alone story to me, seeing how there was so much more deadlier wildlife back then like terror birds, short faced bears, dire wolves, sabertooth cats, american lion, and so much more, with the addition of a true first Predator encounter with ancient man. It was simply such a more brutal place to be around.
For reference, this is a short faced bear which can be around 12-15ft tall standing up and hit the pounds by +1,000
(https://i.pinimg.com/originals/d2/fc/73/d2fc73041d388cf95bdb95cb55c13bc3.jpg)
This can definitely give the Predator a good hunt
I would love to see a film capture something like this. A Predator on the hunt for prehistoric creatures. A story of hunt and survival. 80-90 minutes long. A movie with no dialogue. Think Josh* Brolin out in the desert in "No Country for Old Men".
Damn would that be an expensive movie though. :laugh: One can dream I guess. Better to animate it perhaps, or develop it as a video game.
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Quote from: Voodoo Magic on Sep 10, 2021, 04:21:11 AM
Quote from: SiL on Sep 10, 2021, 02:30:06 AM
First the Predator gets f**ked up fighting a bear, then as it tries to make its way back to camp it gets tracked by a wolf pack out for green meat. Bring it.
And then when it tries to get back to its ship, a great white attacks!
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Quote from: SiL on Sep 10, 2021, 04:34:19 AM
As he fights it off, he accidentally sets his self destruct.
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Quote from: Baron Von Marlon on Sep 10, 2021, 05:17:46 AM
Quote from: Voodoo Magic on Sep 10, 2021, 04:21:11 AM
Quote from: SiL on Sep 10, 2021, 02:30:06 AM
First the Predator gets f**ked up fighting a bear, then as it tries to make its way back to camp it gets tracked by a wolf pack out for green meat. Bring it.
And then when it tries to get back to its ship, a great white attacks!
https://c.tenor.com/9K8pOWUlHqAAAAAC/batman-shark.gif
:laugh:
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;D ;D He's the Wile E. Coyote of the Predator race.
But yeah, a wolf pack hunting a wounded Predator sounds good to me!
Hmm. I don't know. Against a human, sure. But often bullets cannot even guarantee to pierce a Predator's hide, what can Wolf teeth really do? And Predators are so much heavier and solid than humans. I can imagine a Predator can lumber around with three wolves hanging onto him by their teeth gnawing away hopelessly. Wolves just seem more of a nuisance to a Predator than a threat.
Quote from: BigDaddyJohn on Sep 10, 2021, 09:16:59 AM
Quote from: Mr.Turok on Sep 10, 2021, 06:15:27 AM
Well, for local NA wildlife that can do a Predator some damage would be bears, wolves, bobcats, and cougars. Not much, but it would have some interesting fights.
Not much ? A big bear could totally wreck a pred IMO.
I'm glad someone has said this. Hand-to-hand, a Grizzly would annihilate a Predator - I say this fully aware one creature is fictional and the other exists here in the present day.
Was fortunate enough to see a couple of Grizzlies in Whistler and they are the real deal - terrifying.
Has the potential to be a great match-up on screen.
Quote from: Voodoo Magic on Sep 10, 2021, 01:32:28 PM
Hmm. I don't know. Against a human, sure. But often bullets cannot even guarantee to pierce a Predator's hide, what can Wolf teeth really do? And Predators are so much heavier and solid than humans. I can imagine a Predator can lumber around with three wolves hanging onto him by their teeth gnawing away hopelessly. Wolves just seem more of a nuisance to a Predator than a threat.
As I mentioned previously, a wolf pack would most likely harass a Predator, but a wounded one, that has been sliced open by a bear, would probably be different.
Predators are massive, but I can imagine a pack of 12 or so doing some damage to one. Also, check the bite force of a Timberwolf. If one can bite through moose bones in a couple of chomps, I'm sure a pack can inflict some damage to a injured Predator.
Honestly think a predator with his claw and skills has a better chance of winning than a bear which is more brute force.
Quote from: Mr.Turok on Sep 10, 2021, 06:15:27 AM
Well, for local NA wildlife that can do a Predator some damage would be bears, wolves, bobcats, and cougars. Not much, but it would have some interesting fights. Its kind of why the idea of a Predator hunting right at the end of the Ice Age sounds like a great stand alone story to me, seeing how there was so much more deadlier wildlife back then like terror birds, short faced bears, dire wolves, sabertooth cats, american lion, and so much more, with the addition of a true first Predator encounter with ancient man. It was simply such a more brutal place to be around.
For reference, this is a short faced bear which can be around 12-15ft tall standing up and hit the pounds by +1,000
(https://i.pinimg.com/originals/d2/fc/73/d2fc73041d388cf95bdb95cb55c13bc3.jpg)
This can definitely give the Predator a good hunt
That's right. Animals were a lot bigger then.
And there were all kinds of strange hybrids which would make nice replacements for mythical animals.
Quote from: Voodoo Magic on Sep 10, 2021, 12:21:19 PM
I would love to see a film capture something like this. A Predator on the hunt for prehistoric creatures. A story of hunt and survival. 80-90 minutes long. A movie with no dialogue. Think Josh* Brolin out in the desert in "No Country for Old Men".
Damn would that be an expensive movie though. :laugh: One can dream I guess. Better to animate it perhaps, or develop it as a video game.
* name correction edit
You could add cavemen into the mix, so there be more and different viewpoints through the movie.
They find the ravaged (headless) remains of a large animal that has no natural enemies, along with some strange prints and green stuff. They decide to track it.
Quote from: Baron Von Marlon on Sep 10, 2021, 07:13:18 PM
Quote from: Voodoo Magic on Sep 10, 2021, 12:21:19 PM
I would love to see a film capture something like this. A Predator on the hunt for prehistoric creatures. A story of hunt and survival. 80-90 minutes long. A movie with no dialogue. Think Josh* Brolin out in the desert in "No Country for Old Men".
Damn would that be an expensive movie though. :laugh: One can dream I guess. Better to animate it perhaps, or develop it as a video game.
* name correction edit
You could add cavemen into the mix, so there be more and different viewpoints through the movie.
They find the ravaged (headless) remains of a large animal that has no natural enemies, along with some strange prints and green stuff. They decide to track it.
Errr... cavemen make me nervous. Not in general sense, they don't haunt me in my dreams or anything lol.... but it seems to be very hard to depict primitive cavemen on screen without a section of your audience viewing them as a source of comedy, no matter how hard you try to keep the tone serious. So personally, I'd pick a route without them. :)
That's how I feel about sasquatch.
Quote from: SiL on Sep 10, 2021, 08:34:13 PM
That's how I feel about sasquatch.
For me I believe the modifier here is how scary you make it. The less friendlier and goofy you design your Sasquatch... the less you depict it like Harry from "Harry and the Hendersons"... the less risk.
The more frightening you depict your Sasquatch monster, the more scary it becomes... the more threatening foe... and there's no risk of comedy at all (unless the suit looks bad of course)
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Quote from: Voodoo Magic on Sep 10, 2021, 08:52:34 PM
For me I believe the modifier here is how scary you make it. The less friendlier and goofy you design your Sasquatch... the less you depict it like Harry from "Harry and the Hendersons"... the less risk.
The more frightening you depict your Sasquatch monster, the more scary it becomes... the more threatening foe... and there's no risk of comedy at all (unless the suit looks bad of course)
This thinking applies to cavemen too.
Still a goofy idea to me.
Quote from: Voodoo Magic on Sep 10, 2021, 08:02:19 PM
Errr... cavemen make me nervous. Not in general sense, they don't haunt me in my dreams or anything lol.... but it seems to be very hard to depict primitive cavemen on screen without a section of your audience viewing them as a source of comedy, no matter how hard you try to keep the tone serious. So personally, I'd pick a route without them. :)
I didn't use the word primitive.
By cavemen I mean homo sapiens, not some neanderthal type with a big forehead.
Basically it'd be skilled hunter/gatherer types like the native Americans we'll get to see in Skulls but with less fancy clothing, art,...
Quote from: Voodoo Magic on Sep 10, 2021, 01:32:28 PM
Wolves just seem more of a nuisance to a Predator than a threat.
Not if they bite him on the nuts.
The further we go back in time, the easier the "humans" would be to kill. They shouldn't even be worthy.
Quote[...]the less you depict it like Harry from "Harry and the Hendersons"... the less risk.
Bro, Harry would destroy a Predator in hand to hand combat. As would a bunch of Timberwolves. :P
Humans are crafty sons of bitches. They hunted down mammoths...
Neanderthals were probably a lot smarter than we think as well not too mention a lot stronger.
I personally don't think cavemen behaved like half apes, homo sapiens have always been well homo sapiens, intellectually capable, they weren't dumber than people are now. Put a modern human on a deserted island with no modern tools and no knowledge of things he read in books and he is no different than a human being of 150 000 years ago, surviving on his wits, trial and error but by logical thinking.
You can easily resurrect a human of 200 000 years old and teach him how to drive a car.
Quote from: Master Chief on Sep 11, 2021, 01:42:21 AM
The further we go back in time, the easier the "humans" would be to kill. They shouldn't even be worthy.
In this hypothetical scenario it's about a Predator hunting large now extinct animals.
The humans are only there to observe and serve the story.
Let's say some find a dead mammoth* missing his head and spine. Along with a few strange prints and some green stuff.
The early humans would be surprised because it takes a group of them working together. They're the only people around so who or what could've done this?
So they go out to try to track this mysterious being.
I understand what you're saying, but if a Predator can easily dispatch our best now, how could any of those curious hunters even come close to killing a Predator? All they had were sharp pokey things.
Quote from: nanison on Sep 11, 2021, 02:05:49 AM
Humans are crafty sons of bitches. They hunted down mammoths...
Neanderthals were probably a lot smarter than we think as well not too mention a lot stronger.
I personally don't think cavemen behaved like half apes, homo sapiens have always been well homo sapiens, intellectually capable, they weren't dumber than people are now. Put a modern human on a deserted island with no modern tools and no knowledge of things he read in books and he is no different than a human being of 150 000 years ago, surviving on his wits, trial and error but by logical thinking.
You can easily resurrect a human of 200 000 years old and teach him how to drive a car.
I hear you, fam, but there is no way those mammoth hunters would even come close to killing a Predator. This is just my opinion, of course.
Quote from: Master Chief on Sep 11, 2021, 03:40:24 AM
I understand what you're saying, but if a Predator can easily dispatch our best now, how could any of those curious hunters even come close to killing a Predator? All they had were sharp pokey things.
I don't think you do. Apologies if I'm not clear enough.
The hunters aren't going to hunt a predator. They're gonna look for whatever killed that other animal, out of human curiousity.
But the main storyline would be about a predator hunting animals.
The humans are there to serve the story. As narrators and camera viewpoints.
Like maybe one of the hunters says early on "It's hotter than usual for this time of the year". And later on some tribe elder says "When I was young my elders told tales about the god of hunters coming down to Earth..."
Otherwise it'd be a movie with just the predator hunting animals, without any dialogue or humans present.
Dutch beat Anytime by dropping a log on its head. I am 100% sure a situation could occur where gravity + heavy thing = neolithic humans beating a Predator.
It was kind of the point that only Dutch's resourcefulness and knowledge of more primitive skills (with a spicy dash of luck) saved him.
"But Predator tech!"
They can fly across space. They shoot plasma. They turn invisible. They don't get killed because they lack the tech necessary to defeat us, they get killed because they go out of their way to make it sporting. Wind us back a few thousand years and see them leaving the plasma casters and shurikens at home.
I could dig it.
I'm with you, but please keep the caster and stuff. In the end, it won't change a thing.
In a film, absolutely. In an internet argument, it changes everything :laugh:
Quote from: Baron Von Marlon on Sep 10, 2021, 10:22:08 PM
Quote from: Voodoo Magic on Sep 10, 2021, 08:02:19 PM
Errr... cavemen make me nervous. Not in general sense, they don't haunt me in my dreams or anything lol.... but it seems to be very hard to depict primitive cavemen on screen without a section of your audience viewing them as a source of comedy, no matter how hard you try to keep the tone serious. So personally, I'd pick a route without them. :)
I didn't use the word primitive.
By cavemen I mean homo sapiens, not some neanderthal type with a big forehead.
Basically it'd be skilled hunter/gatherer types like the native Americans we'll get to see in Skulls but with less fancy clothing, art,...
Ah I got ya. Here, at least in the U.S , the term caveman is typically perceived as unintelligent prehistoric or primitive human beings. So that's where I thought you were going. :)
Don't nobody be dissin' on Captain Caveman.
@Baron Von Marlon - oh ok, I get you now, and I like that.
@SiL - Dude, it totally slipped my mind on how Dutch defeated the Predator. 🤦 And seeing that's how the hunter-gatherers hunted, it'll definitely work. And to keep it kind of fair, just give the Predator a bow with some arrows, a spear, and snare traps. This'll make for some good action.
Now I keep thinking of the idea.
Introducing the Gigantopithecus, an extinct genus of ape from the Early to Middle Pleistocene (when homo sapines was already around).
Like a gorilla it spent most of his time on four legs, but for comparison the image below shows the size of one standing on his back legs.
(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/8/85/Gigantopithecus_v_human_v1.svg)
If I was a predator, I'd see a challenge.
If I was an early human, I'd be careful.
Quote from: Master Chief on Sep 12, 2021, 01:52:34 AM
@Baron Von Marlon - oh ok, I get you now, and I like that.
Most of the credit goes to Voodoo. I only added the humans.
Wow big ape, maybe this is where tales of yeti's and bigfoots come from. Imagine the brute strength it must have had!
I never thought of this idea of the Predator hunting ancient hominids before. Sounds wild in a cool way.
Quote from: nanison on Sep 12, 2021, 03:16:32 AM
Wow big ape, maybe this is where tales of yeti's and bigfoots come from. Imagine the brute strength it must have had!
Same. I imagine campfire tales, being told over and over again, over the ages. At some point the creature and subject of the story might be extinct, but the stories live on. It's why mythical tales sometimes hold some kind of truth to them.
I remember this piece about native Australians telling about giant crocodiles that used to live around there.
Later on bones were found. Bones of what appeared to be giant crocodiles. Confirming the native Australian stories, or at least part of it.
The series A Greek Odyssey with Bettany Hughes sometimes follow some ancient tale, which again holds some truths.
There's early drawings of a rhino where it appears to have some kind of special armour for skin.
Making it seem like a mythical creature. The skin part isn't true. But the strange animal with a horn part is.
The truth... Is out there!
I like your way of thinking Baron ;)
Another day, another BTS video from Dane Diliegro's IG story
**IMDb finally listed a cast member for Skulls ........ Amber Midthunder
That's a wrap
QuoteAnd that's a wrap on Skulls! Can't thank @dannytrs enough for inviting me along on this epic journey and entrusting me to help achieve his vision for this film! Thanks to a great cast led by @ambermidthunder, @dakotabeavers and @dd and much love to a brave Calgary crew for diving headfirst in with us! #skulls #predator
Quote from: ace3g on Sep 12, 2021, 12:51:33 PM
QuoteAnd that's a wrap on Skulls! Can't thank @dannytrs enough for inviting me along on this epic journey and entrusting me to help achieve his vision for this film!
God I hope his vision for this film is good... No over the top things, no forced collaboration between preds and humans (we got enough of that IMO), just a gritty and dark survival movie, violent, implacable. Aaaand with a great pred design of course ! ;D
To be fully honest, at this point, just a better looking pred than what we recently got, even far from great, would be enough for me.
It is interesting that Kyle Strauts wasn't mentioned in that post.
DD replied in the post, get hyped #TeamSasquatch
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was a pleasure being your sasquatch
1h
#TeamSasquatch #ItsFurry #TrustDan :P
It makes sense they wrapped it up already. Amber Midthunder has recently been moved up to the main cast in the cw Roswell NM show. They already begun shooting Season 4 and Amber will most likely fly back to Santa Fe NM to join the cast
Lets hope Skulls delivers #TrustDan
Quote from: ace3g on Sep 12, 2021, 01:46:57 PM
It is interesting that Kyle Strauts wasn't mentioned in that post.
DD replied in the post, get hyped #TeamSasquatch
Quotedd
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Wait... What ?
Probably just messing with people like us who are following these posts.
Also is that a hunting camp I see?
QuoteAnd...it's a wrap on Skulls!!! Urako @dannytrs and our amazing film family @ambermidthunder, @dakota_beavers ,@stefany_mathias , @dd @jeff_cutter, @jenn_din,@owennnwright, @soonias @dakona_rabbit, @warrenbigbull, @jaden_holle, @jarrettwoyoungmen and everyone 'that was given 'er' as they say up here!
Stay tuned!!!! #Skulls #Predator #comanchepov
That other picture that she posted makes me wonder if the final scene was shot on a soundstage rather than a location.
I think they are keeping the Predator suit hush hush for now. So thats why Kyle Strauts wasn't mentioned in that post. Who knows if they will reveal the suit anytime soon. Maybe when the trailer is ready. Post Production is another month or two right? or longer. I get the feeling they want to push this movie out before all the court stuff happens next year.
Was there really a plan to put a bigfoot/sasquatch in this movie??
I pray they're winding us up with that!!
I've always thought a Pred vs Silverback would make for good viewing. Think I even posted it a while back when The Predator was doing the rounds!
Some cool ideas about Pred vs extinct species. I think what would be really good would be a series of shorts like the Marvel One Shots which show a brief glimpse of other/off-world stuff.
Like short clips of them "earning their stripes" as it were by showing ascension rituals or first hunts etc.
I always remember a fan art of a Pred leaping through the sky with it's combi stick ready to impale a giant sea/insect creature and the moment I saw it I thought "that would be brilliant on screen". I can never find the pic online these days though!
Like maybe you could have sort of drone footage or something showcasing hunts. We know they learn fast from Noland in Predators; so it'd make sense if they had helmet cams or rigged out surveillance drones like in Predators (appreciate that was the Super Preds - but you catch my drift) so they could review and learn/adapt.
New IG story
That's a good thing that way once we see the predator it will have more of a impact
Kyle Strauts posted another picture of the clapboard.
QuoteKyle:
Wrapped with a extra-terrestrial bow.
QuoteAnother one done! Coming to Calgary in March I had no idea what to except. 6 months later I can say Skulls was the hardest, most fulfilling film experience i've had the pleasure of being a part of.
Counting down the days until this movie's shared with the world.
@dannytrs - i'll definitely be watching this one!
QuoteThat's a wrap! This summer has been an absolute dream come true and quite possibly the best experience I've ever had. As a child I had a dream and it became a reality these last 3 months, from meeting so many amazing people to all the new opportunities I've opened up.
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Quote from: ace3g on Sep 12, 2021, 11:41:08 PM
Kyle:
"Wrapped with a extra-terrestrial bow."
Oh man, would love to see that after how prominent it's been in Hunting Grounds.
Some more IG story photos from crew.
Looking forward to a Predator unarming himself and taking off his armour, before a bear/sasquatch fight.
How about a shirt like this but with a pred instead of a vato?
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Anyone have a picture of a pred with facial hair or something similar? ;D
Quote from: ace3g on Sep 12, 2021, 01:46:57 PM
DD replied in the post, get hyped #TeamSasquatch
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1h
More than anything, this is the one that amuses me the most. :laugh: I think some of them were reading here.
Funny as hell. Our discussions are being heard! Our ideas are out there!
God help us all.
Quote from: ace3g on Sep 13, 2021, 02:00:35 AM
Some more IG story photos from crew.
Lighting for a big spaceship scene, perhaps?
Or big nighttime fill light.
Or both :o
@Baron Von Marlon
Blood in Blood Out vs Predator ;D
Quote from: ace3g on Sep 12, 2021, 01:46:57 PM
It is interesting that Kyle Strauts wasn't mentioned in that post.
There's something telling about the fact that they sent him home early and he wasn't included in Jeff Cutters post.
Probably getting the predator itself under wraps as long as possible. Maybe he didn't have that many scenes to shoot, as they could keep the creature's appearances scarce in this movie.
Quote from: BigDaddyJohn on Sep 13, 2021, 01:20:30 PM
Probably getting the predator itself under wraps as long as possible. Maybe he didn't have that many scenes to shoot, as they could keep the creature's appearances scarce in this movie.
Then why would Jeff Cutter tag DD?
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Quote from: ace3g on Sep 12, 2021, 01:46:57 PM
It is interesting that Kyle Strauts wasn't mentioned in that post.
There's something telling about the fact that they sent him home early and he wasn't included in Jeff Cutters post.
He did tweet that it had wrapped though.
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Quote from: ace3g on Sep 12, 2021, 01:46:57 PM
It is interesting that Kyle Strauts wasn't mentioned in that post.
There's something telling about the fact that they sent him home early and he wasn't included in Jeff Cutters post.
He did tweet that it had wrapped though.
Indeed. But he did that about the last movie too, and we all know what happened with that.
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Okay, now if I had to bet one way or another, put all my money on one result, would I bet on a Sasquatch being in Skulls? No. However, the idea is not 100% eliminated as a possibility in my mind either. Meaning I never thought they would show us a Practical FX Bear suit either. Never. Geez, what a spoiler reveal. But the bear-cat was pretty much out of the bag with fans. We hypothesized that a bear would be in it. Well same with the sasquatch-cat, also out of the bag, long before filming began. So yes, dammit, fingers crossed! :laugh:
Now, if they are reading our comments and posts and trolling us, well, that would be pretty funny. I'm already convinced Dan was intrenched in the fan community long before. Remember Dan came to John Davis while they were working on Shane's Black's The Predator and pitched this idea. (I just love the genesis of this. Rooted from a single director & single writer's vision versus a writer's room.) So if they're trolling us, that would be hilarious. #TeamSasquatch reminds me of the #TeamCap and #TeamIronMan I used to see everywhere when "Captain America: Civil War" came out
Quote from: Master on Sep 13, 2021, 07:15:57 AM
Funny as hell. Our discussions are being heard! Our ideas are out there!
I hope Dan paid close attention most of all to our crab allergies! 🦀
An addendum: I'm just loving that "Skulls" title in the Predator font. I still hope they stick with that title, I really do. And I still find it humorous that this movie was reported as "Skull" worldwide, seemingly thanks to a drop off in John Davis' mic. :laugh:
After careful consideration, I think I'd be totally cool with a bigfoot showing up in Skulls. I'm not expecting one to, but if it did I think I'd come down more on the "oh yeah!" side of the reactions than "oh no!"
And now that it's wrapped it's time to.....continue to keep our fingers crossed and hope it's good! :laugh: Come oooooon back to basics no-nonsense Predator movie! No trying to reinvent the wheel or throw in any unnecessary twists, please! Just good old-fashioned real and gritty Predator action in the period setting we've all waited sooooo many years to see!
Quote from: Kailem on Sep 13, 2021, 03:17:25 PM
After careful consideration, I think I'd be totally cool with a bigfoot showing up in Skulls.
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Okay, now if I had to bet one way or another, put all my money on one result, would I bet on a Sasquatch being in Skulls? No. However, the idea is not 100% eliminated as a possibility in my mind either. Meaning I never thought they would show us a Practical FX Bear suit either. Never. Geez, what a spoiler reveal. But the bear-cat was pretty much out of the bag with fans. We hypothesized that a bear would be in it. Well same with the sasquatch-cat, also out of the bag, long before filming began. So yes, dammit, fingers crossed! :laugh:
Now, if they are reading our comments and posts and trolling us, well, that would be pretty funny. I'm already convinced Dan was intrenched in the fan community long before. Remember Dan came to John Davis while they were working on Shane's Black's The Predator and pitched this idea. (I just love the genesis of this. Rooted from a single director & single writer's vision versus a writer's room.) So if they're trolling us, that would be hilarious. #TeamSasquatch reminds me of the #TeamCap and #TeamIronMan I used to see everywhere when "Captain America: Civil War" came out
Quote from: Master on Sep 13, 2021, 07:15:57 AM
Funny as hell. Our discussions are being heard! Our ideas are out there!
I hope Dan paid close attention most of all to our crab allergies! 🦀
I mean, why would he be posting a picture of himself in a sasquatch suit otherwise :laugh: or was this already confirmed to be from another production?
Quote from: Kailem on Sep 13, 2021, 03:17:25 PM
After careful consideration, I think I'd be totally cool with a bigfoot showing up in Skulls. I'm not expecting one to, but if it did I think I'd come down more on the "oh yeah!" side of the reactions than "oh no!"
LOL. I think I'd say the same for myself. Who knows, sasquatch doesn't have to be some cartoony lumbering buffoon, like it is in pop culture. It could be more monstrous, akin to psycho-bear from The Revenant. I'd be ok with this! I'd see a proper sasquatch movie, unrelated to Predator ;D
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Okay, now if I had to bet one way or another, put all my money on one result, would I bet on a Sasquatch being in Skulls? No. However, the idea is not 100% eliminated as a possibility in my mind either. Meaning I never thought they would show us a Practical FX Bear suit either. Never. Geez, what a spoiler reveal. But the bear-cat was pretty much out of the bag with fans. We hypothesized that a bear would be in it. Well same with the sasquatch-cat, also out of the bag, long before filming began. So yes, dammit, fingers crossed! :laugh:
Now, if they are reading our comments and posts and trolling us, well, that would be pretty funny. I'm already convinced Dan was intrenched in the fan community long before. Remember Dan came to John Davis while they were working on Shane's Black's The Predator and pitched this idea. (I just love the genesis of this. Rooted from a single director & single writer's vision versus a writer's room.) So if they're trolling us, that would be hilarious. #TeamSasquatch reminds me of the #TeamCap and #TeamIronMan I used to see everywhere when "Captain America: Civil War" came out
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Funny as hell. Our discussions are being heard! Our ideas are out there!
I hope Dan paid close attention most of all to our crab allergies! 🦀
I mean, why would he be posting a picture of himself in a sasquatch suit otherwise :laugh: or was this already confirmed to be from another production?
There was a "#rental" hastag in at least one of the posts, and in combination with...
what studio would allow a social media reveal like this if it's being used in the movie... we all assumed the chances were slim.
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Okay, now if I had to bet one way or another, put all my money on one result, would I bet on a Sasquatch being in Skulls? No. However, the idea is not 100% eliminated as a possibility in my mind either. Meaning I never thought they would show us a Practical FX Bear suit either. Never. Geez, what a spoiler reveal. But the bear-cat was pretty much out of the bag with fans. We hypothesized that a bear would be in it. Well same with the sasquatch-cat, also out of the bag, long before filming began. So yes, dammit, fingers crossed! :laugh:
Now, if they are reading our comments and posts and trolling us, well, that would be pretty funny. I'm already convinced Dan was intrenched in the fan community long before. Remember Dan came to John Davis while they were working on Shane's Black's The Predator and pitched this idea. (I just love the genesis of this. Rooted from a single director & single writer's vision versus a writer's room.) So if they're trolling us, that would be hilarious. #TeamSasquatch reminds me of the #TeamCap and #TeamIronMan I used to see everywhere when "Captain America: Civil War" came out
Quote from: Master on Sep 13, 2021, 07:15:57 AM
Funny as hell. Our discussions are being heard! Our ideas are out there!
I hope Dan paid close attention most of all to our crab allergies! 🦀
I mean, why would he be posting a picture of himself in a sasquatch suit otherwise :laugh: or was this already confirmed to be from another production?
There was a "#rental" hastag in at least one of the posts, and in combination with... what studio would allow a social media reveal like this if it's being used in the movie... we all assumed the chances were slim.
Just because Dane posted a photo with that bigfoot costume doesn't mean that's the one used in the movie. from the looks of it he's played a bunch of different monsters etc.. He could be wearing a different suit or be something else entirely. There's no way of telling. We can't assume that some post from a few months ago is the tell-all for the plot of this movie.
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Just because Dane posted a photo with that bigfoot costume doesn't mean that's the one used in the movie. from the looks of it he's played a bunch of different monsters etc.. He could be wearing a different suit or be something else entirely. There's no way of telling. We can't assume that some post from a few months ago is the tell-all for the plot of this movie.
Of course! That's why it never made it into one of our articles, not even the few with speculation. Even when the pics first caught my eye and I posted them in our forums, I had no idea Dane was definitely going to be working on Skulls. But since then... he turned out he was... and it's all just been fun fan speculation, dreaming up a scenario based on "real" recorded Native American encounters with a Bigfoot, where a Predator would be on Earth not to hunt the Comanche but something bigger (which may be accurate just with a bear).
Bear won't be as jaw dropping as Sas.
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Bear won't be as jaw dropping as Sas.
Indeed!
#TeamSasquatch :D
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#TeamSaquatch Bro! ;)
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Seeing this apparel with "Skulls" Kyle is wearing makes me feel more and more that the title may remain legit. Fingers crossed!
I see a spider or face hugger in the branches design.
It's at least been the shooting title. Here's hoping it makes it to the final film.
Quote from: Voodoo Magic on Sep 13, 2021, 08:34:01 PM
Seeing this apparel with "Skulls" Kyle is wearing makes me feel more and more that the title may remain legit. Fingers crossed!
I think it's possible they stick with that, and I wouldn't be opposed, but I also took Dan Trachtenberg's post about the title when it was making the rounds to mean that it hasn't been decided upon yet.
All this apparel gifted to the crew was probably set up ahead of time with the shoot.
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Oh... here's hoping he actually means soon.
It's just a lazy meme.
Soon Skulls merch ;D Im down for the pred laser sights hoodie
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Quote from: Voodoo Magic on Sep 13, 2021, 08:34:01 PM
Seeing this apparel with "Skulls" Kyle is wearing makes me feel more and more that the title may remain legit. Fingers crossed!
I think it's possible they stick with that, and I wouldn't be opposed, but I also took Dan Trachtenberg's post about the title when it was making the rounds to mean that it hasn't been decided upon yet.
https://www.instagram.com/p/CR7TOCoJc_m/
All this apparel gifted to the crew was probably set up ahead of time with the shoot.
Yeah, it could ultimately be a working title, absolutely. But... I'm also looking at it this way...
First, producer John Davis announced the movie is called "Skulls". That's the first thing John Davis says here when he's asked about a new Predator movie:
Davis wasn't asked
Hey man, what is the new Predator film called? Nothing like that. Yet John Davis offers freely that the movie's title is called "Skulls" on his own accord.
Now I remember one of the Terminator sequels working title was "Vista". I wouldn't imagine a Producer coming out and saying in a pre-interview "The new Terminator film is called 'Vista' everyone!" So that's where "Skulls" became a real possibility for me.
Now regarding Dan's post, to me I view it with three possible intents... 1. to bring up old shoots like he's done in the past and the timing was coincidentally bad... 2. to let us know the title may very well change... or 3. as a reaction to everyone reporting the new Predator film title wrong as "Skull" singular because of an assuming mic drop-off and Collider breaking that title... but Dan couldn't talk directly about it.
Guess we'll see!
Every title is a working title until the film is finished :laugh:
It does feel like they absolutely intend it to be the title, but John Wick was meant to be Scorn until Keanu Reeves kept referring to the film by his character's name. Which, yes, is the opposite of the situation here, but the point is anything can happen.
I think for now it's safe to assume it's very much the title of the movie. At most I'd anticipate them adding the word Predator at the front, and even that I wouldn't bet on.
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#TeamSaquatch Bro! ;)
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I believe in #TeamSquatch.
I can't wait to see this. I believe they're not gonna screw this up!
Predator: Woke
Just kidding, I don't mind the synopsis one bit ;D
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#TeamSaquatch Bro! ;)
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I believe in #TeamSquatch.
Alright! Now we have four!
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I can't wait to see this. I believe they're not gonna screw this up!
I'm feeling those positive vibes too my friend, something I never felt when Shane Black had the gig honestly.
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Looks like Cutter's original post has now been deleted.
I can't imagine what for. I guess because Jeff Cutter tagged Amber Midthunder and made the startling reveal that Amber will be in this movie. I'm glad it was deleted. Now we can all be properly surprised.
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Put me firmly in the "I'd like to see a Sasquatch in this" camp. The Predator movies feel like they could easily exist in a sort of slightly heightened reality where that sort of thing would exist - and the Predator itself is, in a sense, a "cryptid"/local legend in and of itself in the world of the films. Especially in the first movie.
I'd be cool with a bear as well, of course (and am excited at the prospect of seeing a Predator go up against any non-human creature on screen in a non-AVP movie; Predators really botched the potential on the game planet in that regard, unfortunately).
Anyways, the more I see of this movie, the more excited I'm getting. Took a lot to get this fully on my radar after how much of a massive letdown The Predator was, but there's a lot of potential here for something very cool. And I like Dan Trachtenberg a lot (but then again, I can say the same about Shane Black... :D :'(). Choosing to go into this one very optimistic for now, though.
To be honest, the fact they shown us the bear suit is quite suspicious. I mean if the big reveal is Predator vs Bear they kinda blew it. I think something more is at play. What if Skulls in nod not for just one 1987 classic with Kevin Peter Hall, but actually two of them? My speculation is our protagonist will actually team up with Bigfoot to stop Alien Headhunter. Somthing like force of nature vs monster of technology with the girl as key character to solve the conflict. Anyway #TeamSasquatch 4 life.
Weird stuff has always been part of Predator, magic and other worldly senses were in the first 2 Predators for example
Billy could sense the Predator
King Willy could also sense him, and tell Harringan he wasn't from Earth
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To be honest, the fact they shown us the bear suit is quite suspicious. I mean if the big reveal is Predator vs Bear they kinda blew it. I think something more is at play. What if Skulls in nod not for just one 1987 classic with Kevin Peter Hall, but actually two of them? My speculation is our protagonist will actually team up with Bigfoot to stop Alien Headhunter. Somthing like force of nature vs monster of technology with the girl as key character to solve the conflict. Anyway #TeamSasquatch 4 life.
Wouldn't that be a twist :laugh: That'd definitely be interesting to say the least! Would much prefer that than the other way around, in any event. Especially if it's a creature similar in character to the Tuunbaq from The Terror.
Sasquatch is boring honestly. Make it a Wendigo for Generation Meme bonus points. I know it's not the right tribe btw, but it doesn't have to be their monster.
Quote from: [cancerblack] on Sep 14, 2021, 09:54:53 PM
Sasquatch is boring honestly. Make it a Wendigo for Generation Meme bonus points. I know it's not the right tribe btw, but it doesn't have to be their monster.
Wendigos are a part of religions that are still used today so that's a no go
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Seeing this apparel with "Skulls" Kyle is wearing makes me feel more and more that the title may remain legit. Fingers crossed!
I think it's possible they stick with that, and I wouldn't be opposed, but I also took Dan Trachtenberg's post about the title when it was making the rounds to mean that it hasn't been decided upon yet.
https://www.instagram.com/p/CR7TOCoJc_m/
All this apparel gifted to the crew was probably set up ahead of time with the shoot.
Yeah, it could ultimately be a working title, absolutely. But... I'm also looking at it this way...
First, producer John Davis announced the movie is called "Skulls". That's the first thing John Davis says here when he's asked about a new Predator movie:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hgA-H2h63nw
Davis wasn't asked Hey man, what is the new Predator film called? Nothing like that. Yet John Davis offers freely that the movie's title is called "Skulls" on his own accord.
Now I remember one of the Terminator sequels working title was "Vista". I wouldn't imagine a Producer coming out and saying in a pre-interview "The new Terminator film is called 'Vista' everyone!" So that's where "Skulls" became a real possibility for me.
Now regarding Dan's post, to me I view it with three possible intents... 1. to bring up old shoots like he's done in the past and the timing was coincidentally bad... 2. to let us know the title may very well change... or 3. as a reaction to everyone reporting the new Predator film title wrong as "Skull" singular because of an assuming mic drop-off and Collider breaking that title... but Dan couldn't talk directly about it.
Guess we'll see!
One concern I have with this is I think they could try to tie it in with Billy's ancestry.
IIRC, I think Billy was of Sioux origin? So there may be some revisions/redactions; but I don't think I'll be happy if they give us a backstory and tap into Billy's 'mystical/psychic' background that was touched on in the novelisation of P1.
I think it'd be a step too far, personally.
Quote from: [cancerblack] on Sep 14, 2021, 09:54:53 PM
Sasquatch is boring honestly. Make it a Wendigo for Generation Meme bonus points. I know it's not the right tribe btw, but it doesn't have to be their monster.
Wendigo lore has always interested me. No idea if it's gonna be any good or not but I'm pretty curious about this one given some of the talent involved:
Crew badge from IG story.
I remember everyone kissing each other's ass after the predator wrapped. This film will show us it can get worse
Someone leak the Predator! I'm bored.
Quote from: Master on Sep 14, 2021, 08:15:35 PM
My speculation is our protagonist will actually team up with Bigfoot to stop Alien Headhunter. Somthing like force of nature vs monster of technology with the girl as key character to solve the conflict.
I'm 100%
#TeamSasquatch but that goes further than I'm prepared to commit to this excellent concept. :laugh:
Quote from: PAS Spinelli on Sep 14, 2021, 08:16:37 PM
Weird stuff has always been part of Predator, magic and other worldly senses were in the first 2 Predators for example
Billy could sense the Predator
King Willy could also sense him, and tell Harringan he wasn't from Earth
The demon!The Thomas Brothers proclaimed their love for ancient mythology and classic literature, their adoration for creatures like the Cyclops and Grendel from Beowulf, and the Predator was in part a culmination of these creatures. The modern day Minotaur they called it. So that mythological / supernatural prism was purposely baked into the creature by Jim & John Thomas. And it's been sorely missing since Predator 2 in my humble opinion. Until "Skulls" hopefully!
@Yeaok
Its best to keep expectations low nowadays. Nothing will top the first Predator since it did everything right. I seriously don't think it can get any worse than The Predator. I mean for what it was, it was a entertaining mess of a movie ;D
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#TeamSaquatch Bro! ;)
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I believe in #TeamSquatch.
Alright! Now we have four!
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I can't wait to see this. I believe they're not gonna screw this up!
I'm feeling those positive vibes too my friend, something I never felt when Shane Black had the gig honestly.
I'm all in for #teamsquatch.
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#TeamSaquatch Bro! ;)
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I believe in #TeamSquatch.
Alright! Now we have four!
#TeamSasquatchBros Go!
Quote from: George on Sep 13, 2021, 11:16:42 PM
I can't wait to see this. I believe they're not gonna screw this up!
I'm feeling those positive vibes too my friend, something I never felt when Shane Black had the gig honestly.
I'm all in for #teamsquatch.
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If I remember correctly, a person becomes a wendigo after eating human flesh.
Would a predator become a wendigo (predigo?) after eating predator flesh?
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Quote from: [cancerblack] on Sep 14, 2021, 09:54:53 PM
Sasquatch is boring honestly. Make it a Wendigo for Generation Meme bonus points. I know it's not the right tribe btw, but it doesn't have to be their monster.
Wendigos are a part of religions that are still used today so that's a no go
Why is it a no go? It's not like there haven't been films or stories which feature religious iconography. Not trying to be blase, genuine question.
There's actually a wendigo movie called "Antlers" that hasn't been released yet, been waiting forever on that one. Also lets not forget Ravenous.
Pretty sure Wendigo wouldn't be off limits for religious reasons.
Wendigo wouldn't be off limits. Though I can see them steering clear of it or having to work within the parameters of the cultural advisors. If anything mythological shows up I'm willing to bet money it's a case of mistaken identity where they think it's something else and it turns out it is the Predator. I don't think you'll get Predator going against Sasquatch as much I think Predator would be sasquatch. That could even be the reason for the bear. The Predator kills it, takes the pelt, and we see something big and furry in the distance which turns out is Predator.
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Wendigo wouldn't be off limits. Though I can see them steering clear of it or having to work within the parameters of the cultural advisors. If anything mythological shows up I'm willing to bet money it's a case of mistaken identity where they think it's something else and it turns out it is the Predator. I don't think you'll get Predator going against Sasquatch as much I think Predator would be sasquatch. That could even be the reason for the bear. The Predator kills it, takes the pelt, and we see something big and furry in the distance which turns out is Predator.
I like that image. The bear could also do enough damage to the Predator to bring down its capacity, so we'd get a team-up of sorts: bear + humans (sacred forces of nature unite!) Or, humans + Predator despite its lack of popularity, OR if we're feeling really sassy, bear + Predator and then the humans are f****d.
Either way, my money is on the Predator surviving this film.
They're not going to let the Predator survive in the only film with a female lead.
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Quote from: SuperiorIronman on Sep 15, 2021, 01:03:45 PM
Wendigo wouldn't be off limits. Though I can see them steering clear of it or having to work within the parameters of the cultural advisors. If anything mythological shows up I'm willing to bet money it's a case of mistaken identity where they think it's something else and it turns out it is the Predator. I don't think you'll get Predator going against Sasquatch as much I think Predator would be sasquatch. That could even be the reason for the bear. The Predator kills it, takes the pelt, and we see something big and furry in the distance which turns out is Predator.
I like that image. The bear could also do enough damage to the Predator to bring down its capacity, so we'd get a team-up of sorts: bear + humans (sacred forces of nature unite!) Or, humans + Predator despite its lack of popularity, OR if we're feeling really sassy, bear + Predator and then the humans are f****d.
Either way, my money is on the Predator surviving this film.
No Team ups! Back to basics!Other than that....
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I admit, they're not the best of ideas :laugh: I'm going to stick to the Predator surviving (or at least an ending dissimilar to what we've had up until this point), but yeah Trash Queen - given that the lead is female and we are already getting a lot of "new" stuff in this movie, it wouldn't surprise me if it does bite the dust.
Aside from the bear-focus, if that costume is any indication, it probably wouldn't be a Wendigo since the legs are all wrong.
Predator surviving doesn't necessarily mean that our lead has to die if that is what you mean TQ
It is just can see the journalistic outrage now if it did indeed come to pass.
A Wendigo would be cool and mythical AF, but I think Antlers got to this first. I can only assume that it was on the table, but I think the only furry we will get will be a giant bear or #Teamsasquatch.
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It is just can see the journalistic outrage now if it did indeed come to pass.
So sad, but probably true :-\
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Sasquatch is boring honestly. Make it a Wendigo for Generation Meme bonus points. I know it's not the right tribe btw, but it doesn't have to be their monster.
Wendigos are a part of religions that are still used today so that's a no go
Why is it a no go? It's not like there haven't been films or stories which feature religious iconography. Not trying to be blase, genuine question.
Because it would be insulting to a culture that has already been shat on by Americans far too much?
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There's actually a wendigo movie called "Antlers" that hasn't been released yet, been waiting forever on that one. Also lets not forget Ravenous.
Pretty sure Wendigo wouldn't be off limits for religious reasons.
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Quote from: [cancerblack] on Sep 14, 2021, 09:54:53 PM
Sasquatch is boring honestly. Make it a Wendigo for Generation Meme bonus points. I know it's not the right tribe btw, but it doesn't have to be their monster.
Wendigo lore has always interested me. No idea if it's gonna be any good or not but I'm pretty curious about this one given some of the talent involved:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ng5eyOfL8qM
When the f**k is this coming out? It feels like I've been waiting five years or so.
Apparently late October, in the States. Was originally due out here last April. I remember it was one of the very first movies to go once the pandemic kicked off in full swing late last March.
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Apparently late October, in the States.
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Quote from: Stitch on Sep 15, 2021, 11:36:34 AM
Why is it a no go? It's not like there haven't been films or stories which feature religious iconography. Not trying to be blase, genuine question.
I guess it's not politically correct to wrongfully portray native Americans.
Aside from that, not all religions are treated the same. The one with the guy who you can't draw comes to mind.
Quote from: Baron Von Marlon on Sep 15, 2021, 06:51:09 AM
If I remember correctly, a person becomes a wendigo after eating human flesh.
Would a predator become a wendigo (predigo?) after eating predator flesh?
Although it would be very supernatural, it would not stop being interesting. Not to mention, they can always make a
'midichlorian' by turning the
Wendigo into an alien so that it wouldn't be magical. It would not be a good idea though. :laugh:
For a moment I thought that the Wendigo-themed creature feature was the adaptation of this short film. :laugh:
https://youtu.be/SxQj0DumF8Y
But now I know that it's not like that. And I also remember that I was totally in
awe! when I learned that
Del Toro was key in the project. 8)
https://youtu.be/IEM5HW7q5dY
But overall, it wouldn't bother me that the mythical legendary creature is actually the Predator. It was almost strange that
Predator 2 didn't flirt with the idea that Rastafarian culture was somehow inspired by encounters with the Predator. Still my favorite Pred film ever. 8)
Shocking cast announcement via IMDb, Dane DiLiegro ...
I mean, the Wendigo has been used in numerous ways over the years, and in much worse movies than a Predator sequel specifically about Native Americans. Hell, the commonly known depiction of the a wendigo with antlers stems from a fairly crappy early 2000s horror movie. And need I mention The Lone Ranger movie? :laugh:
It's absolutely heartbreaking as a Predator fan to see the franchise be hollowed out and used as a vessel for divisive "progressive" politics instead of focusing on a story that all of us can get engrossed in.
Film is dead, Socialism turned it into propaganda instead of entertainment. The timeline got darker as of now.
Oh, f**k off.
Quote from: ace3g on Sep 15, 2021, 11:23:24 PM
Shocking cast announcement via IMDb, Dane DiLiegro ...
Is he credited as playing a Sasquatch? ;D
#TeamSasquatchBros4LifeSpeaking of Sasquatches in "Skulls", I found it humorous reading IGN briefly trying to decipher Dane DiLiegro's sasquatch reply to Jeff Cutter's Instagram post:
- As Collider points out, Beavers and DiLiegro's roles in Skulls are still unknown, but considering DiLiegro has played monsters in American Horror Stories before, there's a good chance he might be the actual Predator in the movie.
DiLiegro also commented on Cutter's Instagram post and said "was a pleasure being your sasquatch." Predators are basically alien sasquatches, right?
https://www.ign.com/articles/predator-skulls-filming-wrap-additional-cast-members-dan-trachtenberg
Quote from: Voodoo Magic on Sep 16, 2021, 01:05:01 PM
Quote from: ace3g on Sep 15, 2021, 11:23:24 PM
Shocking cast announcement via IMDb, Dane DiLiegro ...
Is he credited as playing a Sasquatch? ;D
#TeamSasquatchBros4Life
Speaking of Sasquatches in "Skulls", I found it humorous reading IGN briefly trying to decipher Dane DiLiegro's sasquatch reply to Jeff Cutter's Instagram post:
- As Collider points out, Beavers and DiLiegro's roles in Skulls are still unknown, but considering DiLiegro has played monsters in American Horror Stories before, there's a good chance he might be the actual Predator in the movie.
DiLiegro also commented on Cutter's Instagram post and said "was a pleasure being your sasquatch." Predators are basically alien sasquatches, right?
https://www.ign.com/articles/predator-skulls-filming-wrap-additional-cast-members-dan-trachtenberg
Another cryptic/meta tweet by dane
https://twitter.com/ddnumerouno/status/1438357286640963588?s=21
Quote from: hoffmanstokes on Sep 16, 2021, 02:20:14 PM
Quote from: Voodoo Magic on Sep 16, 2021, 01:05:01 PM
Quote from: ace3g on Sep 15, 2021, 11:23:24 PM
Shocking cast announcement via IMDb, Dane DiLiegro ...
Is he credited as playing a Sasquatch? ;D
#TeamSasquatchBros4Life
Speaking of Sasquatches in "Skulls", I found it humorous reading IGN briefly trying to decipher Dane DiLiegro's sasquatch reply to Jeff Cutter's Instagram post:
- As Collider points out, Beavers and DiLiegro's roles in Skulls are still unknown, but considering DiLiegro has played monsters in American Horror Stories before, there's a good chance he might be the actual Predator in the movie.
DiLiegro also commented on Cutter's Instagram post and said "was a pleasure being your sasquatch." Predators are basically alien sasquatches, right?
https://www.ign.com/articles/predator-skulls-filming-wrap-additional-cast-members-dan-trachtenberg
Another cryptic/meta tweet by dane
https://twitter.com/ddnumerouno/status/1438357286640963588?s=21
Yeah, it seems he's trying to be cheeky there, but I'd say it's probably not his best decision...
Quote from: ace3g on Sep 15, 2021, 11:23:24 PM
Shocking cast announcement via IMDb, Dane DiLiegro ...
So...2nd Predator, Sasquatch, or Bear? I know the article said that he could very well be our main Predator, but then why would there be two of them.
Quote from: Wysps on Sep 16, 2021, 02:37:46 PM
Quote from: ace3g on Sep 15, 2021, 11:23:24 PM
Shocking cast announcement via IMDb, Dane DiLiegro ...
So...2nd Predator, Sasquatch, or Bear? I know the article said that he could very well be our main Predator, but then why would there be two of them.
Who knows, both Kyle Strauts & Dane could both be Predators, either in joint Predator duties since they are the same height... or it's not a sole Predator hunting story but rather a dual hunters story like in the comic series "Predator: Hunters III"... or perhaps Kyle Strauts is a Bear-Sasquatch-whatever-Predator backup and Dane has main Predator duties (or vice-versa).
It seemed like someone other than Dane and Kyle was donning the Bear practical fx suit though. I guess we'll see! :)
Quote from: Voodoo Magic on Sep 16, 2021, 02:45:05 PM
Quote from: Wysps on Sep 16, 2021, 02:37:46 PM
Quote from: ace3g on Sep 15, 2021, 11:23:24 PM
Shocking cast announcement via IMDb, Dane DiLiegro ...
So...2nd Predator, Sasquatch, or Bear? I know the article said that he could very well be our main Predator, but then why would there be two of them.
Who knows, both Kyle Strauts & Dane could both be Predators, either in joint Predator duties since they are the same height... or it's not a sole Predator hunting story but rather a dual hunters story like in the comic series "Predator: Hunters III"... or perhaps Kyle Strauts is a Bear-Sasquatch-whatever-Predator backup and Dane has main Predator duties (or vice-versa).
It seemed like someone other than Dane and Kyle was donning the Bear practical fx suit though. I guess we'll see! :)
Oh, the possibilities. This secrecy is just :( I suppose it could be that both Kyle and Dane are sharing the main Predator role. Though the idea of two main humans fighting two main Predators (in possibly different subplots) would be interesting.
Quote from: Wysps on Sep 16, 2021, 03:02:21 PM
I suppose it could be that both Kyle and Dane are sharing the main Predator role.
I would hire two performers, for sure! A twisted ankle here, a broken wrist there... there's just too much risk (to me) to hire just one performer that can don the suit while shooting on-location in the wilderness of Alberta!
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Quote from: [cancerblack] on Sep 14, 2021, 09:54:53 PM
Sasquatch is boring honestly. Make it a Wendigo for Generation Meme bonus points. I know it's not the right tribe btw, but it doesn't have to be their monster.
Wendigos are a part of religions that are still used today so that's a no go
Why is it a no go? It's not like there haven't been films or stories which feature religious iconography. Not trying to be blase, genuine question.
Because it would be insulting to a culture that has already been shat on by Americans far too much?
OK, I can understand that. I'm coming at this from a non American perspective, and I'm not trying to be insulting in any way, just in case this comes across as insensitive. I'm just trying to understand your automatic 'no go' regarding wendigo.
There have already been many films, stories, games, and other media which have featured wendigo. There have also, as I said, been many films and media with other, existing, religious iconography. Since we know that this movie stars Native American actors, then why couldn't it incorporate the mythology and legends, including the wendigo?
Now, the wendigo may not be Comanche lore, but, as far as I'm aware, we're not 100% sure that it's definitely the Comanche that are depicted in Skulls, and I also wouldn't put it past the studio to mix up Native American folklore.
Since your points include it being insulting, and that it's an extant religion, I still can't see why they wouldn't do it. This isn't my own personal opinion, I'm just thinking of movie studios. There are plenty of films made which could be classed as insulting to extant religion, but they still get made, so I would be surprised if a movie studio automatically rejected the concept of including a wendigo.
Quote from: Stitch on Sep 16, 2021, 03:25:24 PM
Quote from: PAS Spinelli on Sep 15, 2021, 09:14:05 PM
Quote from: Stitch on Sep 15, 2021, 11:36:34 AM
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Quote from: [cancerblack] on Sep 14, 2021, 09:54:53 PM
Sasquatch is boring honestly. Make it a Wendigo for Generation Meme bonus points. I know it's not the right tribe btw, but it doesn't have to be their monster.
Wendigos are a part of religions that are still used today so that's a no go
Why is it a no go? It's not like there haven't been films or stories which feature religious iconography. Not trying to be blase, genuine question.
Because it would be insulting to a culture that has already been shat on by Americans far too much?
OK, I can understand that. I'm coming at this from a non American perspective, and I'm not trying to be insulting in any way, just in case this comes across as insensitive. I'm just trying to understand your automatic 'no go' regarding wendigo.
There have already been many films, stories, games, and other media which have featured wendigo. There have also, as I said, been many films and media with other, existing, religious iconography. Since we know that this movie stars Native American actors, then why couldn't it incorporate the mythology and legends, including the wendigo?
Now, the wendigo may not be Comanche lore, but, as far as I'm aware, we're not 100% sure that it's definitely the Comanche that are depicted in Skulls, and I also wouldn't put it past the studio to mix up Native American folklore.
Since your points include it being insulting, and that it's an extant religion, I still can't see why they wouldn't do it. This isn't my own personal opinion, I'm just thinking of movie studios. There are plenty of films made which could be classed as insulting to extant religion, but they still get made, so I would be surprised if a movie studio automatically rejected the concept of including a wendigo.
Yeah because no one ever takes their requests to not include their religion in Media seriously, it doesn't matter if the Tribe being represented in here is the right one, they don't want their folklore to be part of our media, specially as some stock monster, it's basically culture appropriation
It may be pop corn entertainment. But in a way it shows audiences something related to a culture. I could bet that if a movie about
Norse deities use
Viracocha as a being part of
Norse cosmology, people would already be complaining and all. Hell! I've seen people claiming that a
WWII movie with zombies can't have black soldiers because it's historically inaccurate, and Polish people being picky about
The Witcher. We must be empathetic, but aye! I must admit that I base my comment on anecdotal evidence observed here on the site and on the internet.
Although the mythological concept has diverse origins.
(https://i.ibb.co/FHZ6xgG/Screenshot-2021-09-16-20-23-46-2.png)
▶The Myth of the Wendigo (https://sites.psu.edu/tetirclblog/2015/02/24/the-myth-of-the-wendigo/)
Quote from: Voodoo Magic on Sep 16, 2021, 03:11:49 PM
Quote from: Wysps on Sep 16, 2021, 03:02:21 PM
I suppose it could be that both Kyle and Dane are sharing the main Predator role.
I would hire two performers, for sure! A twisted ankle here, a broken wrist there... there's just too much risk (to me) to hire just one performer that can don the suit while shooting on-location in the wilderness of Alberta!
I'd fake hire a bunch of people to throw off the media and mess with people like us.
Like hiring a (famous) actor, make him sign an NDA and then release a picture of him in a familiar setting or with some known item from whatever franchise.
When people are riled up enough, I'd do it again.
Quote from: Baron Von Marlon on Sep 17, 2021, 03:50:25 AM
I'd fake hire a bunch of people to throw off the media and mess with people like us.
Like hiring a (famous) actor, make him sign an NDA and then release a picture of him in a familiar setting or with some known item from whatever franchise.
When people are riled up enough, I'd do it again.
(https://thumbs.gfycat.com/SandyAbandonedAardwolf-max-1mb.gif)
The fact that Jeff Cutter left out Kyle and deleted the IG post makes me think they are holding off the Predator reveal and trailer for awhile. Not even the Imdb lists kyle, strange. It could be possible that DD and Kyle will both be portraying the same Pred in certain scenes, or maybe there is going to be 2 of them at some point. I'm still #teamsasquatch or bear tho
Quote from: Voodoo Magic on Sep 17, 2021, 01:28:14 PM
Quote from: Baron Von Marlon on Sep 17, 2021, 03:50:25 AM
I'd fake hire a bunch of people to throw off the media and mess with people like us.
Like hiring a (famous) actor, make him sign an NDA and then release a picture of him in a familiar setting or with some known item from whatever franchise.
When people are riled up enough, I'd do it again.
https://thumbs.gfycat.com/SandyAbandonedAardwolf-max-1mb.gif
The final result will be about how predators originated from crabs like we originated from monkeys.
But it'll the next stage in their evolution, making them look extra crabby.
(https://c.tenor.com/4eqmdVpLTagAAAAC/dr-evil-evil-laugh.gif)
It won't be Sasquatch, and at most it will be a bear. However, there was a potential for cheap viral marketing, since unlike the Predator which is an artistic creation with entertainment as its main purpose, Sasquatch is part of folklore and as such there are people who believe in its existence. They could have done an
alternate reality game (https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alternate_reality_game), posting creepy photos and videos of a guy disguised as cryptid, with challenges on social media persuading people to film the creature to share their experiences online, as they try to figure out where the next sighting of the elusive creature will be.
(https://i.ibb.co/T16VKxt/Photo-Funia-1631935942.jpg)
Quote from: Immortan Jonesy on Sep 16, 2021, 11:37:23 PM
It may be pop corn entertainment. But in a way it shows audiences something related to a culture. I could bet that if a movie about Norse deities use Viracocha as a being part of Norse cosmology, people would already be complaining and all. Hell! I've seen people claiming that a WWII movie with zombies can't have black soldiers because it's historically inaccurate, and Polish people being picky about The Witcher. We must be empathetic, but aye! I must admit that I base my comment on anecdotal evidence observed here on the site and on the internet.
Although the mythological concept has diverse origins.
(https://i.ibb.co/FHZ6xgG/Screenshot-2021-09-16-20-23-46-2.png)
▶The Myth of the Wendigo (https://sites.psu.edu/tetirclblog/2015/02/24/the-myth-of-the-wendigo/)
There's something about humanity that just likes the idea of a giant ape-man roaming around the hillside :laugh: "Bigfoot" is seriously like, a lifestyle in some places.
But I agree, though the idea is kind of fun, it's a stretch. And then you run the risk of misappropriating elements of one culture onto another, which even if there's good intentions, can still be in poor taste. Plus, why go that route when you could potentially use a giant Grizzly?
Quote from: Wysps on Sep 18, 2021, 06:08:26 PM
Plus, why go that route when you could potentially use a giant Grizzly?
Absolutely true. :laugh:
Because the movie would sell a lot tickets to millennials and zoomers obsessed with (the internet version of) wendigos?
I don't know anything about that lol I only found this. :laugh:
(https://i.ibb.co/NFV8q6J/60d88f424a926.jpg)
Quote from: Immortan Jonesy on Sep 18, 2021, 04:06:51 AM
It won't be Sasquatch, and at most it will be a bear. However, there was a potential for cheap viral marketing, since unlike the Predator which is an artistic creation with entertainment as its main purpose, Sasquatch is part of folklore and as such there are people who believe in its existence. They could have done an alternate reality game (https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alternate_reality_game), posting creepy photos and videos of a guy disguised as cryptid, with challenges on social media persuading people to film the creature to share their experiences online, as they try to figure out where the next sighting of the elusive creature will be.
(https://i.ibb.co/T16VKxt/Photo-Funia-1631935942.jpg)
Yautja playing pranks on humankind. I knew there was more to Sasquatch.
Quote from: [cancerblack] on Sep 18, 2021, 09:25:08 PM
Because the movie would sell a lot tickets to millennials and zoomers obsessed with (the internet version of) wendigos?
What's the internet version of a wendigo?
A hodge-podge with various other north american myths/legends, has big antlers.
Quote from: City Hunter Yautja on Sep 18, 2021, 09:41:34 PM
Yautja playing pranks on humankind. I knew there was more to Sasquatch.
Movie idea:
Teenage predators go to Earth to dress up as cryptids and mess with humans.
But because they don't have weapons and aren't careful enough, one gets caught while playing bigfoot.
Then the others have to rescue him and get back home before their parents find out.
Title of the movie should be a sci-fi/space version of something like Caddyshack or Meatballs.
Quote from: Baron Von Marlon on Sep 18, 2021, 11:55:17 PM
Quote from: City Hunter Yautja on Sep 18, 2021, 09:41:34 PM
Yautja playing pranks on humankind. I knew there was more to Sasquatch.
Movie idea:
Teenage predators go to Earth to dress up as cryptids and mess with humans.
But because they don't have weapons and aren't careful enough, one gets caught while playing bigfoot.
Then the others have to rescue him and get back home before their parents find out.
Title of the movie should be a sci-fi/space version of something like Caddyshack or Meatballs.
This needs to be made! It would be a nice bit of levity for the Predverse. :)
It'll take place during a ufo craze,
in the late 50's. Era of greasers, squares, cool cars and rock 'n' roll. And lots of intolerant people who don't take kindly to strangers, let alone alien beings.
Or the 60's. With hippies who want to see "bigfoot" released. They'll help the other preds to rescure their bud. And along their adventure are also introduced to another kind of bud.
Either way, a time with less tech, more open minded (stupid) people and great music.
And I wouldn't mind a short scene where they meet Elvis.
Shame Kevin Peter Hall is no longer around to do Predator vs Harry Henderson.
Quote from: KiramidHead on Sep 19, 2021, 02:26:50 AM
Shame Kevin Peter Hall is no longer around to do Predator vs Harry Henderson.
Makes me think of a Predator sitcom.
Housewife character: "Now who left this bloody skull and spine in the living room? Yautja, was that you?"
*laugh track*
Yautja enters the scene.
*audience applaudes and cheers*
Yautja: "Click click growl grunt click, Kevin. Grown grunt click click." (That must be Kevin's. I was busy doing my homework)
*laugh track*
Housewife: "But you're hands are covered in blood!"
Yautja: "Uhm... Grunt growl click growl click grunt." (Uhm... Ok, you got me there.)
Housewife: "Oh, Yautja..."
*audience laughs and applaudes*
Yautja & The Hendersons was recorded for a live audience.
Quote from: KiramidHead on Sep 19, 2021, 02:26:50 AM
Shame Kevin Peter Hall is no longer around to do Predator vs Harry Henderson.
RIP Peter, you brought life to one of the most beloved extraterrestrials.
I do kind of wish that they'd gone the Sasquatch route rather then the bear route (assuming either end up included) as I think it'd be easier to pull off a convincing sasquatch suit with an actor inside than an actor in a bear suit (as we've seen and it looks kinda janky - unless I missed something about that bear suit not being from Skulls).
I feel like because sasquatch isn't real it's less likely to run into uncanny valley territory compared to a bear which will be very obvious if it's slightly off from reality in terms of movement/muscles etc
Hell, I think dude-in-a-suit sasquatch would even look better than a CGI bear seeing as we won't be getting Revenant level fx in this movie
What if the bear is Nicolas Cage all along?
Quote from: KiramidHead on Sep 19, 2021, 04:41:07 PM
What if the bear is Nicolas Cage all along?
We're all Nicolas Cage.
Everything you touch, everything you see is Nicolas Cage.
Quote from: [cancerblack] on Sep 18, 2021, 10:17:48 PM
A hodge-podge with various other north american myths/legends, has big antlers.
Well that's crappy, and nowhere near as interesting as the real thing.
Quote from: Baron Von Marlon on Sep 18, 2021, 11:55:17 PM
Quote from: City Hunter Yautja on Sep 18, 2021, 09:41:34 PM
Yautja playing pranks on humankind. I knew there was more to Sasquatch.
Movie idea:
Teenage predators go to Earth to dress up as cryptids and mess with humans.
But because they don't have weapons and aren't careful enough, one gets caught while playing bigfoot.
Then the others have to rescue him and get back home before their parents find out.
Title of the movie should be a sci-fi/space version of something like Caddyshack or Meatballs.
Rob Schneider is...
Predator: Spaced Out!Rated PG-13
I do like 10 cloverfield lane so i'm eager to see what the director can do with predator.
Quote from: KiramidHead on Sep 19, 2021, 04:41:07 PM
What if the bear is Nicolas Cage all along?
Please make this happen. 😅
Is Nicolas Cage the new Chuck Norris?
I want a deepfake version of the Predator scene where he removes his mask, only to reveal Nicolas Cage's face smiling crazy like in Face/Off/
Quote from: nanison on Sep 20, 2021, 10:16:34 PM
Is Nicolas Cage the new Chuck Norris?
Nicolas Cage is Nicolas Cage.
Jocko Willink is the new Chuck Norris.
Just looking at his picture will raise your testosterone levels.
Quote from: Baron Von Marlon on Sep 20, 2021, 10:51:26 PM
I want a deepfake version of the Predator scene where he removes his mask, only to reveal Nicolas Cage's face smiling crazy like in Face/Off/
Quote from: nanison on Sep 20, 2021, 10:16:34 PM
Is Nicolas Cage the new Chuck Norris?
Nicolas Cage is Nicolas Cage.
Jocko Willink is the new Chuck Norris.
Just looking at his picture will raise your testosterone levels.
Then watch Nicholas Gage beat the living Carp out of Arnie. XD
Shocking new cast listing on IMDb...
Kyle Strauts ... Predator
Quote from: ace3g on Sep 22, 2021, 12:06:48 AM
Shocking new cast listing on IMDb...
Kyle Strauts ... Predator
Yeah, it's important to remember it's mostly just IMDB users updating these things. I was responsible for a few updates in the beginning myself for "Skulls", before I started wondering why... :D
I want Adam Driver in a Predator film.
Adam as a Predator looks at Biomask of Jungle Hunter from first Predator.
"I will finish.. what you started."
Quote from: City Hunter Yautja on Sep 22, 2021, 12:26:44 AM
I want Adam Driver in a Predator film.
Hang on, I'll add him on IMDB. ;)
Quote from: Voodoo Magic on Sep 22, 2021, 12:29:17 AM
Quote from: City Hunter Yautja on Sep 22, 2021, 12:26:44 AM
I want Adam Driver in a Predator film.
Hang on, I'll add him on IMDB. ;)
Fans of Driver go to Skulls and think the guy playing the Pred is Driver.
Voodoo:
(https://c.tenor.com/69VwrUtChf0AAAAC/star-wars-anakin-skywalker.gif)
Voodoo there is DEW for you!:
(https://scontent-sjc3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t39.30808-6/fr/cp0/e15/q65/242419216_380238753591287_1885150915237065135_n.jpg?_nc_cat=111&ccb=1-5&_nc_sid=110474&efg=eyJpIjoidCJ9&_nc_ohc=MNkWplCJp6sAX-4Bt7K&_nc_ht=scontent-sjc3-1.xx&oh=0cad90e99ad90ef8ad4684dabdfaaa97&oe=614EF0FD)
Quote from: City Hunter Yautja on Sep 21, 2021, 10:19:17 PM
Quote from: Baron Von Marlon on Sep 20, 2021, 10:51:26 PM
I want a deepfake version of the Predator scene where he removes his mask, only to reveal Nicolas Cage's face smiling crazy like in Face/Off
Then watch Nicholas Gage beat the living Carp out of Arnie. XD
Not really ;D
Spoiler
(https://i.imgur.com/4MimlT6.png)
Quote from: Baron Von Marlon on Sep 22, 2021, 01:12:41 AM
Quote from: City Hunter Yautja on Sep 21, 2021, 10:19:17 PM
Quote from: Baron Von Marlon on Sep 20, 2021, 10:51:26 PM
I want a deepfake version of the Predator scene where he removes his mask, only to reveal Nicolas Cage's face smiling crazy like in Face/Off
Then watch Nicholas Gage beat the living Carp out of Arnie. XD
Not really ;D
Spoiler
(https://i.imgur.com/4MimlT6.png)
How about Cage vs Cage, one is Dutch, the other is Jungle Hunter Yautja. ;)
Quote from: ace3g on Sep 22, 2021, 12:06:48 AM
Shocking new cast listing on IMDb...
Kyle Strauts ... Predator
just because he got a sweatshirt and reposted someone else's photo of the clapper on his instagram doesn't mean he's the predator in this film... remember Jeff Cutter never tagged him. nothings been announced yet.
I also remember Kyle listed himself as the predator in the last movie on imdb... and we all remember what happened there.
Quote from: hoffmanstokes on Sep 22, 2021, 05:15:55 AM
Quote from: ace3g on Sep 22, 2021, 12:06:48 AM
Shocking new cast listing on IMDb...
Kyle Strauts ... Predator
just because he got a sweatshirt and reposted someone else's photo of the clapper on his instagram doesn't mean he's the predator in this film... remember Jeff Cutter never tagged him. nothings been announced yet.
I also remember Kyle listed himself as the predator in the last movie on imdb... and we all remember what happened there.
What happened? His scenes were cut? I'm not certain how that applies.
But about Kyle being in Skulls, there's probably a couple dozen posts regarding Kyle captured in these threads, but here are some relevant ones I think:
(https://www.avpgalaxy.net/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2021/04/IMG_20210415_124809.jpg)
(https://i.ibb.co/kSTMrvk/Screenshot-20210622-164855-Facebook.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/dVUah6e.jpg)
From what's been revealed to us publicly, Kyle arrived in Alberta in the timeframe filming was supposed to begin, left in the timeframe filming was supposed to end, gave us plenty of scenic Alberta Instagram stories in between including a couple of off-set shots with a couple of "Skulls" cast/crew members. So I think at this point, Kyle in "Skulls" is a very reasonable conclusion. :)
I can't believe it's even being argued.
More than one actor for one predator is not a new thing, it's totally possible here. Or there is even more than one predator, who knows.
Thus just got me thinking - was there a stunt actors in the original Predator? I think that was the only film where a Predator was played exclusively by one person. I imagine Voodoo can correct me.
EDIT
Scrap that, the red suit acrobatics I'm pretty sure weren't Hall.
Yes sir. Stan Winston's Predator crew was a small team, with only one character actor (Kevin Peter Hall) and one person of Kevin Peter Hall's stature. For a full film I would believe they would have to consider alternates, but their Predator work was considered "reshoots" with only 2-3 weeks originally designated I recall. Stan celebrated Kevin too, that he never had to lose a shot in those "Predator" reshoots because Kevin couldn't handle it anymore. Not one shot lost. KPH is just a legend. :)
But the red FX suits, yeah, it's also my understanding as well that some stunt guys wore some red suits, but I've never found the precise people named in text or credits.
I have a feeling that Wyatt Weed said it was the stunt co-ordinator (I know he worked on P2, but he knew the guy from P1). Brian Johnson?
Quote from: Corporal Hicks on Sep 22, 2021, 02:01:32 PM
I have a feeling that Wyatt Weed said it was the stunt co-ordinator (I know he worked on P2, but he knew the guy from P1). Brian Johnson?
I'll have to give that podcast a re-listen ASAP!
Quote from: Voodoo Magic on Sep 22, 2021, 10:54:36 AM
Quote from: hoffmanstokes on Sep 22, 2021, 05:15:55 AM
Quote from: ace3g on Sep 22, 2021, 12:06:48 AM
Shocking new cast listing on IMDb...
Kyle Strauts ... Predator
just because he got a sweatshirt and reposted someone else's photo of the clapper on his instagram doesn't mean he's the predator in this film... remember Jeff Cutter never tagged him. nothings been announced yet.
I also remember Kyle listed himself as the predator in the last movie on imdb... and we all remember what happened there.
What happened? His scenes were cut? I'm not certain how that applies.
But about Kyle being in Skulls, there's probably a couple dozen posts regarding Kyle captured in these threads, but here are some relevant ones I think:
(https://www.avpgalaxy.net/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2021/04/IMG_20210415_124809.jpg)
(https://i.ibb.co/kSTMrvk/Screenshot-20210622-164855-Facebook.jpg)
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From what's been revealed to us publicly, Kyle arrived in Alberta in the timeframe filming was supposed to begin, left in the timeframe filming was supposed to end, gave us plenty of scenic Alberta Instagram stories in between including a couple of off-set shots with a couple of "Skulls" cast/crew members. So I think at this point, Kyle in "Skulls" is a very reasonable conclusion. :)
Sounds like he was the double or something.
Kyle Strauts representation says he's being the "title character", but who knows...
* Kyle & Dane could be sharing joint Predator duties since they are the same height.
* "Skulls" may not be a sole Predator hunting story but rather a dual hunters story.
* Perhaps Dane was a Bear and/or Sasquatch and/or Predator backup and Kyle had main Predator duties... or vice-versa.
New Pred design revealed
Also check out Kyle's hoodie in the attachment, lol
IATSE one of the main movie production unions in Canada might go on strike.
Quote from: ace3g on Sep 22, 2021, 11:20:03 PM
Also check out Kyle's hoodie in the attachment, lol
:laugh: I love it!!!
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Quote from: ace3g on Sep 22, 2021, 11:20:03 PM
Also check out Kyle's hoodie in the attachment, lol
:laugh: I love it!!!
Haha, me too.
Thanks for posting that Ace. I needed that! :laugh:
Quote from: Voodoo Magic on Sep 22, 2021, 01:45:28 PM
Yes sir. Stan Winston's Predator crew was a small team, with only one character actor (Kevin Peter Hall) and one person of Kevin Peter Hall's stature. For a full film I would believe they would have to consider alternates, but their Predator work was considered "reshoots" with only 2-3 weeks originally designated I recall. Stan celebrated Kevin too, that he never had to lose a shot in those "Predator" reshoots because Kevin couldn't handle it anymore. Not one shot lost. KPH is just a legend. :)
But the red FX suits, yeah, it's also my understanding as well that some stunt guys wore some red suits, but I've never found the precise people named in text or credits.
Craig Baxley mentioned a couple of names in his biography , Henry Kingi and Tony Brubaker, who did stunt scenes in the pred suit.
I think Brian Simpson also was in the suit at some point, possibly in certain slaughterhouse sequences, but I couldn't get a reply from him yet.
Quote from: Corporal Hicks on Sep 22, 2021, 02:01:32 PM
I have a feeling that Wyatt Weed said it was the stunt co-ordinator (I know he worked on P2, but he knew the guy from P1). Brian Johnson?
So according to the second-hand info Wyatt provided, Brian Simpson, seen below with Kevin Peter Hall's hand on his head....
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...wore the red camouflage suit in the trees, and was "pretty sure" Brian was the Predator in these wide shots:
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I'll see if I can get more detailed info directly from the source.
Sep 27, 2021, 02:21:33 PM(https://i.ibb.co/wC23mJz/Screenshot-20210925-234011-Instagram.jpg)
Quote from: Voodoo Magic on Sep 27, 2021, 02:20:12 PM
I'll see if I can get more detailed info directly from the source.
Let me know if you make contact. I wanted to get him on the podcast, but couldn't see any obvious contact when I looked last.
Camouflaged Predator moves a lot different than non-camouflaged. In the minigun scene, while he's running away, he even does a little skip.
Quote from: Voodoo Magic on Sep 27, 2021, 02:21:33 PM
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Pure speculation, but what if they use Gort's mask being that it's technically the original Predator mask design?
Pls be right
No, thanks. Come up with something original
I don't think I'd mind if it meant a good looking Predator.
Quote from: Kradan on Sep 27, 2021, 06:57:19 PM
No, thanks. Come up with something original
The last time we got an original one was Fugitive, and it was "meh" at best. Plus if you aren't an obsessive fan, Gort
is a new design.
Quote from: Voodoo Magic on Sep 27, 2021, 02:21:33 PM
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So tiny, but such big hands.
These are Sasquatch hands...
Quote from: [cancerblack] on Sep 27, 2021, 08:26:25 PM
Quote from: Kradan on Sep 27, 2021, 06:57:19 PM
No, thanks. Come up with something original
The last time we got an original one was Fugitive, and it was "meh" at best. Plus if you aren't an obsessive fan, Gort is a new design.
As much as the film disappoints, I still like Fugitive's design. I was happy with that.
That said, I wouldn't turn my nose up at Gort either. But I do always find it fun when we get a new take. I'm expecting some sort of warpaint for this one for some reason.
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Quote from: Voodoo Magic on Sep 27, 2021, 02:21:33 PM
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Pure speculation, but what if they use Gort's mask being that it's technically the original Predator mask design?
I would personally LOVE that!
Quote from: [cancerblack] on Sep 27, 2021, 08:26:25 PM
Quote from: Kradan on Sep 27, 2021, 06:57:19 PM
No, thanks. Come up with something original
The last time we got an original one was Fugitive, and it was "meh" at best. Plus if you aren't an obsessive fan, Gort is a new design.
Even though to me the Gort design is vastly superior, I did find the armor design of the Fugitive rather interesting, even though it did stray from the ancient yet advanced look we know and love. The mask needed a warning label though...
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Only Remove With Alcohol "
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Quote from: Voodoo Magic on Sep 27, 2021, 02:21:33 PM
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So tiny, but such big hands.
His feet too!
Quote from: Master on Sep 28, 2021, 06:34:15 AM
These are Sasquatch hands...
#TeamSasquatchBros4Life !
IMDb added a new crew listing
Lori Boyle
Skull (Dog Trainer)
*Predator hellhounds confirmed for Skulls.
Spoiler
:P
Deal with it 8)
Apparently natives did use dogs to hunt, according to the internet.
Do Sasquatches have dogs?
In all seriousness though, I recollect that there are few specific breeds of dog that are used "as" wolves in movies. So this very well may mean a Wolf is featured in "Skulls", even though it's technically played by a dog.
Gort wouldn't necessarily be new, it's in Predator 2. But I wouldn't mind seeing it brought back especially if we do have a returning Predator like Jungle Hunter given its connection to his film. But I would prefer if it's someone new if they do something totally new rather than redress old props if they can help it. I like each Predator having it's own identity with its designs. And even if it's a returning character, we're seeing them a couple hundred years prior to when we see them die, they're going to look different and really should.
I wouldn't be against war paints.
Quote from: Voodoo Magic on Sep 29, 2021, 12:57:12 PM
Do Sasquatches have dogs?
In all seriousness though, I recollect that there are few specific breeds of dog that are used "as" wolves in movies. So this very well may mean a Wolf is featured in "Skulls", even though it's technically played by a dog.
Wolves + bear ? Count me in !
Quote from: Corporal Hicks on Sep 29, 2021, 07:58:37 AM
*Predator hellhounds confirmed for Skulls.
Spoiler
:P
That best be a joke...😴😝
As a fan of the third movie, give me all that and more! Release the Berzerker you have inside I say! ;D
@ace3g
Pretty much confirms a lot of the IG posts with dogs from the crew and cast during filming. Confirms at least one type of furry creature lol
Meant to post this fan made poster a few weeks ago.
I appreciate it's fan made but it ain't great.
Right side has an alien feel to it. Might've worked better if it was an avp film. And the knife seems alittle off.
Let me be the one to say it. It's bad.
Yeah it's a mess. Not the worst I've seen by a country mile but, c'mon bro (or brosephina), if you're good enough to do that compositing you can surely make something that isn't as visually confusing or at least appreciates colour contrast.
Apparently per IMDB, Steve Jubinville joined the "Skulls" team.
http://digitalmodelshop.com/
I hope this movie gives me an Apocalypto vibe. Wouldn't mind seeing warriors like that fighting a Predator.
Quote from: Master Chief on Sep 30, 2021, 04:21:29 PM
I hope this movie gives me an Apocalypto vibe. Wouldn't mind seeing warriors like that fighting a Predator.
Indeed!
Quote from: Master Chief on Sep 30, 2021, 04:21:29 PM
I hope this movie gives me an Apocalypto vibe. Wouldn't mind seeing warriors like that fighting a Predator.
i could be wrong but those warriors are mesoamerican. very different from indigenous cherokee native americans i believe.
Quote from: hoffmanstokes on Sep 30, 2021, 07:28:06 PM
Quote from: Master Chief on Sep 30, 2021, 04:21:29 PM
I hope this movie gives me an Apocalypto vibe. Wouldn't mind seeing warriors like that fighting a Predator.
i could be wrong but those warriors are mesoamerican. very different from indigenous cherokee native americans i believe.
I think he's just talking more about the vibe. :)
So one has to wonder; who's gonna be doing the music?
One hopes to be Alan Silvestri but I highly doubt he's gonna make a return
Quote from: Voodoo Magic on Sep 30, 2021, 10:43:15 PM
Quote from: hoffmanstokes on Sep 30, 2021, 07:28:06 PM
Quote from: Master Chief on Sep 30, 2021, 04:21:29 PM
I hope this movie gives me an Apocalypto vibe. Wouldn't mind seeing warriors like that fighting a Predator.
i could be wrong but those warriors are mesoamerican. very different from indigenous cherokee native americans i believe.
I think he's just talking more about the vibe. :)
The vibe. :)
Quote from: Pearlhead on Oct 01, 2021, 01:55:43 PM
So one has to wonder; who's gonna be doing the music?
One hopes to be Alan Silvestri but I highly doubt he's gonna make a return
I hope we get some epic Native American muisc.
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I hope we get some epic Native American muisc.
Yes!
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But the question should be who would do it?
Even if he didn't leave much to be desired, I wouldn't mind John Debney returning to do another one. Hopefully with something more memorable.
A part of me would be curious if one of my favorite underrated composers like Elliot Goldenthal would get involved and how he would pull it off
Quote from: Pearlhead on Oct 01, 2021, 01:55:43 PM
So one has to wonder; who's gonna be doing the music?
One hopes to be Alan Silvestri but I highly doubt he's gonna make a return
I've been quietly praying for Silvestri since the announcement!
Quote from: Voodoo Magic on Oct 01, 2021, 05:37:55 PM
Quote from: Pearlhead on Oct 01, 2021, 01:55:43 PM
So one has to wonder; who's gonna be doing the music?
One hopes to be Alan Silvestri but I highly doubt he's gonna make a return
I've been quietly praying for Silvestri since the announcement!
I can't think of anyone but him who could do an effective Predator score.
Quote from: Pearlhead on Oct 01, 2021, 07:40:08 PM
Quote from: Voodoo Magic on Oct 01, 2021, 05:37:55 PM
Quote from: Pearlhead on Oct 01, 2021, 01:55:43 PM
So one has to wonder; who's gonna be doing the music?
One hopes to be Alan Silvestri but I highly doubt he's gonna make a return
I've been quietly praying for Silvestri since the announcement!
I can't think of anyone but him who could do an effective Predator score.
And he would be the guy to definitely incorporate Native American instruments into his score.
Silvestri said he would score another Predator film if asked, right around the time of Shane Black's entry. Let's hope Dan Trachtenberg
tries to get him for "Skulls" at least, through all the obstacles necessary to do so (if any).
Dan doing his homework.
Predator 2 has the perfect soundtrack for this project. Tribal and intense.
Shout out to the NES on top of the CRT. There was a Predator game also for the Nintendo if I remember. It was sort of like Contra but with Scorpions
I can see Silvestri with some native american musicians to help back him up to strengthen the soundtrack.
We owned that same VHS cover. Still have it I think.
I have the laserdisc too. Just no working player.
Possibly his daughter ?
I'm thinking pet bear.
Quote from: BigDaddyJohn on Oct 04, 2021, 12:11:08 PM
Possibly his daughter ?
That's what I was thinking, and a fitting name considering how spiritual his wife is (for lack of a better word) if I identified her correctly.
How lucky she is to be there to see how this is made with her dad, it must be really cool !
If it's truly the case... indeed!
Hmm. I wonder if it's too late for Stephen Hopkins to adopt me.... 🤔
:laugh:
IMDB cast update....
Stefany Mathias as Sumu
Quote from: Clubroot on Oct 04, 2021, 06:34:32 PM
IMDB cast update....
Stefany Mathias as Sumu
That's interesting. When we watched Stefany's audition, it was for the role of "Aruka", that based on the dialogue, was the mother of Kee and Taabe. Perhaps she didn't win it and was cast in an alternate role (or perhsps the mother's name was changed to Sumu).
Quote from: Voodoo Magic on Oct 04, 2021, 07:11:09 PM
Quote from: Clubroot on Oct 04, 2021, 06:34:32 PM
IMDB cast update....
Stefany Mathias as Sumu
That's interesting. When we watched Stefany's audition, it was for the role of "Aruka", that based on the dialogue, was the mother of Kee and Taabe. Perhaps she didn't win it and was cast in an alternate role (or perhsps the mother's name was changed to Sumu).
how did you see her audition tape?
@hoffmanstokes
https://vimeo.com/515115659
And for the article
https://reelanarchy.com/audition-tapes-for-predator-5-skulls-surface-online/
Yeah, that was broken here in our forums first. Our members were searching for clues and breaking stories, and they'd make it on websites elsewhere afterwards...
Wasn't she a bit young to play Kee's mom ? I know it's an other era and people had children at a very young age, plus movie make-up etc, but still, she looks as young as Kee here !
Quote from: BigDaddyJohn on Oct 06, 2021, 11:21:53 AM
Wasn't she a bit young to play Kee's mom ? I know it's an other era and people had children at a very young age, plus movie make-up etc, but still, she looks as young as Kee here !
Are you talking the Cheyenne Seleah audition Clubroot posted above? If so, yeah, based on her audition videos, she tried out for the roll of "Kee", but it went Amber Midthunder. (Posting that video really didn't apply to the Stefany conversation here and I'm assuming that's where the confusion lies.)
But actor Stefany Mathias on the otherhand, who's auditions are no longer online, she tried out for the role of "Aruka" and the dialogue spoken seemed to clearly identify Aruka as Kee's mother.
(https://i.ibb.co/5BXDKFF/Screenshot-20211005-194122-Gallery.jpg)
But now that someone updated IMDB crediting Stephany as "Sumu", I was curious if she's really playing Kee's mother, the role we know as "Aruka"... or perhaps she was just casted in another, maybe lesser role.
Oh ok thanks, my bad !
Quote from: Master Chief on Sep 30, 2021, 04:21:29 PM
I hope this movie gives me an Apocalypto vibe. Wouldn't mind seeing warriors like that fighting a Predator.
That would be neat. Could be a "Chariots of the Gods" why certain cultures collected skulls, having learned from the Predators.
ADI got together for a team dinner recently
I'm a little disappointed that they are saying that this film will be the Predator's/Yautja's first visit to earth, ignoring every bit of established canon. According to many comic stories and even the AVP films they have been around much longer than the time period this film is set in. I know recently they found footprints in North America that show humans have been in North America for 23,000 years, but I'm pretty sure this film takes place around the 14-1500s.
I don't see any problems at all ignoring completely AVP and the comics.
AVP isn't so much my concern as I can take or leave it, but the comics go back almost as far as the first film itself, the first comic was released in 1989 just a year and a half after Predator was released in theaters and a good portion of the comics are very good stories, that I think are fathoms better than any Predator movie after Predator and Predator 2, completely ignoring the comics hurts the continuity and is not good for the story or franchise in my personal opinion.
It's a movie series. The vast majority of people going to see it wont have read any of the comics (or likely know they even exist). Ignoring comics doesn't hurt continuity at all as the comics aren't part of the movie continuity
Just to add, I'm not against movies ret-conning other movies (I'd be happy for future Predator movies to disregard The Predator and both AVP movies as they aren't any good) but Predator is a movie franchise first and foremost so it's not on the movies to respect the storylines of the comics
Even though John Davis said it was the Predators' first visit to Earth, I personally doubt it will be conveyed on-screen in any way, so I ultimately believe this will be a non-issue. :)
Quote from: ace3g on Oct 08, 2021, 10:14:40 PM
ADI got together for a team dinner recently
https://www.instagram.com/p/CUvxltDPrmd/
Hmm. Something to do with a next project? An Alien TV series perhaps?
Quote from: seattle24 on Oct 09, 2021, 03:32:22 PM
Bloody hope not!
Hey, why just have the Predator fans suffer. Now we can all commiserate! :laugh:
Did they serve crab meat ?
Quote from: Voodoo Magic on Oct 09, 2021, 03:49:56 PM
Quote from: seattle24 on Oct 09, 2021, 03:32:22 PM
Bloody hope not!
Hey, why just have the Predator fans suffer. Now we can all commiserate! :laugh:
Hahah! Can just see it now, Tom opening the doors to his armoury and whispering "Hello, my old friend" to the Resurrection mould à la Bruce Wayne and the bat suit :(
I don't mind AvP being solidified as uncanon, but it kinda kills the potential for other interesting stories
Quote from: seattle24 on Oct 09, 2021, 03:56:03 PM
Quote from: Voodoo Magic on Oct 09, 2021, 03:49:56 PM
Quote from: seattle24 on Oct 09, 2021, 03:32:22 PM
Bloody hope not!
Hey, why just have the Predator fans suffer. Now we can all commiserate! :laugh:
Hahah! Can just see it now, Tom opening the doors to his armoury and whispering "Hello, my old friend" to the Resurrection mould à la Bruce Wayne and the bat suit :(
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Quote from: Kradan on Oct 09, 2021, 03:52:26 PM
Did they serve crab meat ?
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Any bets when the first teaser/trailer arrives?
Quote from: Wweyland on Oct 09, 2021, 07:06:17 PM
Any bets when the first teaser/trailer arrives?
Not even a release date yet. Can't see anything happening anytime soon.
Quote from: (Bad Blood) on Oct 09, 2021, 12:54:58 PM
AVP isn't so much my concern as I can take or leave it, but the comics go back almost as far as the first film itself, the first comic was released in 1989 just a year and a half after Predator was released in theaters and a good portion of the comics are very good stories, that I think are fathoms better than any Predator movie after Predator and Predator 2, completely ignoring the comics hurts the continuity and is not good for the story or franchise in my personal opinion.
As a hardcore fan, this is an issue for you. The average moviegoer likely doesn't even know there are comics to contradict, and they're where the $$$ is - there just aren't enough fanatics to pay the bills on a studio film, and so keeping them happy is secondary at absolute best.
Objectively, having the Predator visit Earth in the 17th century simply limits the potential universe building of the Predator series. Profit wise, means less means to rake in that cash and creative wise it confines the series into a corner. I mean if there was a film of a Predator hunting during the Mongol Invasion of Japan during the 12th century, people will line up to see it. Sure, someone can say samurai still existed in the 17th century too, but with the Mongols in a interesting time period of high conflict? Don't cork that bottle if ya know whats good for ya, but hey its the suits, they usually don't know good shit if it bit them in the ass
Thank you, that's what I meant by my earlier comment, I'm not a Predator zealot haha I've only read 7 comics, I just think from a story standpoint it puts limitations on it.
@Wweyland
If we don't see a trailer or teaser by Christmas of this year, then I believe they are going to release a trailer near or close to release.
Quote from: Mr.Turok on Oct 09, 2021, 09:18:23 PM
Don't cork that bottle if ya know whats good for ya, but hey its the suits, they usually don't know good shit if it bit them in the ass
This is what it boils down to. At least there's no more Rothman.
Quote from: [cancerblack] on Oct 09, 2021, 11:07:06 PM
Quote from: Mr.Turok on Oct 09, 2021, 09:18:23 PM
Don't cork that bottle if ya know whats good for ya, but hey its the suits, they usually don't know good shit if it bit them in the ass
This is what it boils down to. At least there's no more Rothman.
I agree
I feel it's not really as much of an issue as it's being made out. Has that much of the franchise, EU or otherwise, actually done much with them hunting here for thousands of years over the last two and a bit decades?
I know there are a few stories, but I never got the impression it was a particularly important aspect. Most stories are contemporary or near future and don't necessarily lean on a millennia-spanning relationship.
I'm not advocating the idea of this film being first contact, but I don't feel it's really throttling anything meaningfully.
It isn't really, which is why the suits don't know or care.
Is it really possible to show it on screen?
I suppose it doesn't really matter that much, i just got used to the idea that they had been a large part of human history in AVP and other media, now that doesn't mean I'm not open to change, there are just a few stories i don't want to be erased (like they seem to do all the time these days, looking at you Star Wars) because there are a few outstanding ones, now they will probably remain unaffected though, even if they make this their first visit to earth.
Nothing's really "erased".
You're still free to enjoy those old stories and their different continuities.
Something being "canon" doesn't automatically raise it up to a level of sainthood.
It's only relevant when you want to see how story X relates to stories Y and Z.
Good point, so then it truly is of no concern then. Thank you haha.
Quote from: skhellter on Oct 10, 2021, 07:57:01 PM
Nothing's really "erased".
You're still free to enjoy those old stories and their different continuities.
Something being "canon" doesn't automatically raise it up to a level of sainthood.
It's only relevant when you want to see how story X relates to stories Y and Z.
THIS! 100% THIS!
The real canon is the friends you made along the way.
I can't see this film showing us any real indication it's actually the first time the Predators come to hunt on Earth, unless there's a specific narrative reason from the Predator's POV, which I doubt we'll get.
the predator is going to turn to the camera and go
"you know.. this is the first time any of us has ever been here. :) Now let's collect some Skulls!"
That's what I've been saying! And I doubt the Comanche will be making such claims either, so I think this is much ado about nothing.
Quote from: Clubroot on Oct 09, 2021, 10:45:33 PM
@Wweyland
If we don't see a trailer or teaser by Christmas of this year, then I believe they are going to release a trailer near or close to release.
Yeah, if nothing changes from what Marc Toberoff indicated in court and Skulls is indeed released on Hulu, trailers don't usually hit very far in advance of release.
It'd probably be a difficult point to get across without some sort of dialogue between multiple Predators. Though I could see it being this particular Predator's first time reaching Earth, which wouldn't be that far fetched - especially if we're discounting comics/novels.
Quote from: Wysps on Oct 11, 2021, 06:58:18 PM
It'd probably be a difficult point to get across without some sort of dialogue between multiple Predators.
They'd have to give us those "The Predator" subtitles again...
Quote from: Voodoo Magic on Oct 11, 2021, 07:52:59 PM
Quote from: Wysps on Oct 11, 2021, 06:58:18 PM
It'd probably be a difficult point to get across without some sort of dialogue between multiple Predators.
They'd have to give us those "The Predator" subtitles again...
Please no
Quote from: Voodoo Magic on Oct 11, 2021, 07:52:59 PM
Quote from: Wysps on Oct 11, 2021, 06:58:18 PM
It'd probably be a difficult point to get across without some sort of dialogue between multiple Predators.
They'd have to give us those "The Predator" subtitles again...
Mercy :o
I fail to see how subtitles are a problem given this has been a thing even before The Predator, and how they sound is even similar of how Spartan spoke in AVP 2010. It's not new guys, it's been that way at minimum a decade.
Because it f**king sucks.
Quote from: SuperiorIronman on Oct 11, 2021, 09:44:01 PM
I fail to see how subtitles are a problem given this has been a thing even before The Predator, and how they sound is even similar of how Spartan spoke in AVP 2010. It's not new guys, it's been that way at minimum a decade.
The EU can get away with a lot of stuff, doesn't mean people want it in the movies.
Or that they liked it in the EU to begin with.
I personally don't have a problem with subtitles. Could they be done well? Potentially. But The Predator just wasn't it, imo.
Quote from: Trash Queen on Oct 11, 2021, 09:46:06 PM
Because it f**king sucks.
I just love your reasoning sometimes
Yeah so do I.
Quote from: Voodoo Magic on Oct 11, 2021, 07:52:59 PM
Quote from: Wysps on Oct 11, 2021, 06:58:18 PM
It'd probably be a difficult point to get across without some sort of dialogue between multiple Predators.
They'd have to give us those "The Predator" subtitles again...
I will push down my cautious optimism for a moment and say I can totally see the film go that route cuz Hollywood these days, and as TQ said, its going to suck. I can't see this be handled with style and class writing. I think about it like this, say if the film goes the Apocalypto route and had the tribe talk in their native language with subtitles for it, this just gives the prefect excuse to give subs to Predator dialogue too. I can see this being used that way.
I just hope not and just pray that this is just a story of a historical hunt in the past.
Quote from: skhellter on Oct 11, 2021, 11:29:12 AM
the predator is going to turn to the camera and go
"you know.. this is the first time any of us has ever been here. :) Now let's collect some Skulls!"
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"Captain, we've detected traces of tasty DNA, and even a hint of autism." "Set a course, Number One. Make it so."
Quote from: skhellter on Oct 11, 2021, 11:29:12 AM
the predator is going to turn to the camera and go
"you know.. this is the first time any of us has ever been here. :) Now let's collect some Skulls!"
I will buy 100 tickets. I will buy 20 more if it calls one of the side characters a chud or a cuck, and another 20 if it tells the audience to like and subscribe before an action scene.
Quote from: Trash Queen on Oct 11, 2021, 09:46:06 PM
Because it f**king sucks.
But how? How is showing two members of an intelligent species talk so bad? The Predator committed many sins. But that wasn't one of them.
Quote from: The Shuriken on Oct 12, 2021, 12:03:21 PM
Quote from: Trash Queen on Oct 11, 2021, 09:46:06 PM
Because it f**king sucks.
But how? How does showing two members of an intelligent species talk so bad? The Predator committed many sins. But that wasn't one of them.
For me it just demystifies them too much. But I'm on the "don't show me their homeworld" side of the table. Yes they are clearly intelligent and would speak to each other somehow but I don't really want to see it, they're already human enough being essentially a dude in a suit, watching them have a chat about their trip to Earth is just something I don't want to see. But each to their own, different people want different things from this series and who am I to say one way is right or wrong
Quote from: Doomofman on Oct 12, 2021, 12:15:33 PM
For me it just demystifies them too much.
BAM!!! You took the very response right out of my mouth as I was reading this debate. It demystifies the Predators too much! 100% Agreed.
I can roll with it to some degree in the EU, but demystifying your monster in film is the wrong direction to take in my opinion, as does explaining the Space Jockey or the origin of the Alien (looking at you Ridley). Don't eliminate the unknown and all the mystery, wonder and fear that comes with it!
Hearing them speak broken English with a close up of chucke cheese mouth is fine, but hearing them speak their own language isn't? What a weird hill to die on.
Quote from: SuperiorIronman on Oct 12, 2021, 12:36:16 PM
Hearing them speak broken English with a close up of chucke cheese mouth is fine, but hearing them speak their own language isn't? What a weird hill to die on.
Chuck E Cheese mouth? ::)
Subtitles. Hearing their own language and noises is fine to me. The audience extrapolating what's going on is fine to me. Having it translated for us in English just demystifies the creature (to me).
Quote from: Doomofman on Oct 12, 2021, 12:15:33 PMFor me it just demystifies them too much.
Just as much as also knowing if they are male or female IMO.
Quote from: BigDaddyJohn on Oct 12, 2021, 01:24:55 PM
Quote from: Doomofman on Oct 12, 2021, 12:15:33 PMFor me it just demystifies them too much.
Just as much as also knowing if they are male or female IMO.
Well, with the cod piece, pectoral muscles, etc. etc., I'd say most general audiences view and refer to the Predators they've seen as "hes" versus "it" (like with Alien) so I believe those same audiences already believe there are female Predators out there... so I wouldn't see any demystifying going on there, if what we saw in the below pic was hunting Comanche.
(https://i.pinimg.com/736x/e5/62/0d/e5620db2205fb7d41949bdc49c6dccd7.jpg)
So to me, seeing a female Predator doesn't come close in regards to demystifying the creature, as reading dialogue like this would...
"Great one, there's life on the third planet from the sun!"
"Yes, I see Cha-Tuck! Much hunting to be had!"
"Aye, much Skulls to collect. More trophies for our wall!"
"We will have many kills this day!"
"We go at once! Land the Ship on that mountain Cha-tuck!"
To me, the more of this dialogue occurs in a film, the more it demystifies, the worse it gets. I say to some degree, treat the Predator like Michael Myers in a slasher movie, and I'll be smiling ear-to-ear. :)
The Predator's a mythic being, a force of nature, with the only words to speak being mockeries of our own.
Quote from: Trash Queen on Oct 12, 2021, 02:55:09 PM
The Predator's a mythic being a force of nature with the only words to speak being mockeries of our own.
Well said!
I'm positive there's a way of incorporating dialogue without it sounding so cartoonish, Voodoo! :laugh:
It's not about how it sounds- it is the absence of it completely that gives it a spirit like quality- and the importance of body language, and wondering what it might be thinking on a rewatch, when you give it a voice to articulate itself through you diminish all that.
So I do get where the idea comes from, that not having that "understanding" through dialogue is vital to keeping the Predator's mystery - and keeping them at an affective arm's length. Idk, to me that facet of mystery is not integral to the Predator character, or keeping it's integrity. That's just not my individual benchmark. I'd say that the sexual dimorphism was more important to me, but alas...
Quote from: Wysps on Oct 12, 2021, 03:11:55 PM
I'm positive there's a way of incorporating dialogue without it sounding so cartoonish, Voodoo! :laugh:
Okay, I'll try!
"Great one, there's life on the third planet from the sun!"
"Yes, I see Cha-Tuck! Much hunting to be had!"
"Aye, much Skulls to collect. More trophies for our wall!"
"We will have many kills this day!"
"We go at once! Land the Ship on that mountain Cha-tuck!""Leader, there is life detected on the third planet in orbit around that star!"
"Yes, I see Cha-Tuck. Life signs. Warm climate. The varying species are robust. This planet is an optimal environment for our hunting rituals."
"Many of these species will be quite a challenge to hunt and result in spectacular additions to our trophy collections."
"Let us be the first of our kind to hunt this green planet!"
"I concur! Let's depart immediately. Land on the large mass in the northern quadrant location, Cha-tuck"
Now the question is... did I just make it worse, or better? :laugh:
John Shirley did great job with Predator dialogue IRC
Quote from: Voodoo Magic on Oct 12, 2021, 04:16:24 PM
Quote from: Wysps on Oct 12, 2021, 03:11:55 PM
I'm positive there's a way of incorporating dialogue without it sounding so cartoonish, Voodoo! :laugh:
Okay, I'll try!
"Great one, there's life on the third planet from the sun!"
"Yes, I see Cha-Tuck! Much hunting to be had!"
"Aye, much Skulls to collect. More trophies for our wall!"
"We will have many kills this day!"
"We go at once! Land the Ship on that mountain Cha-tuck!"
"Leader, there is life detected on the third planet in orbit around that star!"
"Yes, I see Cha-Tuck. Life signs. Warm climate. The varying species are robust. This planet is an optimal environment for our hunting rituals."
"Many of these species will be quite a challenge to hunt and result in spectacular additions to our trophy collections."
"Let us be the first of our kind to hunt this green planet!"
"I concur! Let's depart immediately. Land on the large mass in the northern quadrant location, Cha-tuck"
Now the question is... did I just make it worse, or better? :laugh:
I think there may be a relation -
https://youtu.be/m-qT8tjS000?t=72
:D :D
Quote from: Wysps on Oct 12, 2021, 04:44:51 PM
I think there may be a relation -
https://youtu.be/m-qT8and a good sixty years!tjS000?t=72
:D :D
lol, I missed my calling... and about 60 years! :laugh:
The Predator has been around since 1987. With several movies, novels, and comics, canon or not. There is no mystifying them anymore. They're hunters, they have tribes, codes of honor, they look different, and we've seen females. And they're home planet, and their subspecies rivals. Two members of the same species talking to one another takes absolutely nothing away.
Infact I would actually LOVE to see two Predators communicating and coordinating during a hunt. Like actually see it as it's happening, not off screen.
Honestly, the only one I can see write Predator dialogue well is Steve Perry. Its not too clean that it breaks apart from how they act, but also not too savage "ugha bunga" type of tone that would make them dumb brutes. I can't dismiss the idea of Predator dialogue but just that idk if anyone can do it justice.
if the predators have dialogue in anything it better be some conan / mad max / man with no name
"WARRIOR way of life" bullshit (and keep it to a minimum) or the whole tone of the character (and what little we know of their culture) will be off.
Predator mimicking/mocking humans = great. Predator casually chatting about how the trip is going = sucky.
Quote from: skhellter on Oct 12, 2021, 11:30:26 PM
if the predators have dialogue in anything it better be some conan / mad max / man with no name
"WARRIOR way of life" bullshit (and keep it to a minimum) or the whole tone of the character (and what little we know of their culture) will be off.
(https://upgifs.com//img/gifs/FrzWzdiI14pSo.gif)
Predator with assless chaps plz
Quote from: skhellter on Oct 11, 2021, 11:29:12 AM
the predator is going to turn to the camera and go
"you know.. this is the first time any of us has ever been here. :) Now let's collect some Skulls!"
So that's it huh.... We're some kind of Predator"
"Why Predator ?"
"We've put it to a vote"
Quote from: The Shuriken on Oct 12, 2021, 05:22:31 PM
The Predator has been around since 1987. With several movies, novels, and comics, canon or not. There is no mystifying them anymore. They're hunters, they have tribes, codes of honor, they look different, and we've seen females. And they're home planet, and their subspecies rivals. Two members of the same species talking to one another takes absolutely nothing away.
Infact I would actually LOVE to see two Predators communicating and coordinating during a hunt. Like actually see it as it's happening, not off screen.
I hear ya, but I would counter many of the aspects in the EU wouldn't translate well on screen to general audiences. That's one of the reasons why I was so personally thrilled with the Hunter's series. With both Hunters I and II, my feelings were those scripts could be translated on screen verbatim!
Quote from: Mr.Turok on Oct 12, 2021, 11:26:16 PM
Honestly, the only one I can see write Predator dialogue well is Steve Perry. Its not too clean that it breaks apart from how they act, but also not too savage "ugha bunga" type of tone that would make them dumb brutes. I can't dismiss the idea of Predator dialogue but just that idk if anyone can do it justice.
The last thing I would want is Predators coming off as Klingons though arguing about honor etc., and that's the risk. Predators can be seen in the prism of mysterious, mythical "demon"-like
scary monsters that fit well in a slasher movie mold, while Klingons do not. At the very least, I think there's definitely a balance needed here to maintain that, which leans more to the audience-not-fully-understanding-what-the-Predators-are-saying side imo.
Quote from: Trash Queen on Oct 13, 2021, 03:38:44 AM
Quote from: skhellter on Oct 12, 2021, 11:30:26 PM
if the predators have dialogue in anything it better be some conan / mad max / man with no name
"WARRIOR way of life" bullshit (and keep it to a minimum) or the whole tone of the character (and what little we know of their culture) will be off.
https://upgifs.com//img/gifs/FrzWzdiI14pSo.gif
Predator with assless chaps plz
they already wear fishnets. It's the logical step.
Pls no
Quote from: skhellter on Oct 13, 2021, 06:04:45 PM
Quote from: Trash Queen on Oct 13, 2021, 03:38:44 AM
Quote from: skhellter on Oct 12, 2021, 11:30:26 PM
if the predators have dialogue in anything it better be some conan / mad max / man with no name
"WARRIOR way of life" bullshit (and keep it to a minimum) or the whole tone of the character (and what little we know of their culture) will be off.
https://upgifs.com//img/gifs/FrzWzdiI14pSo.gif
Predator with assless chaps plz
they already wear fishnets. It's the logical step.
:laugh:
I liked the subtitles when the Ultimate Predator was talking to the Fugitive traitor and its HQ. I also liked when it used the translation machine to communicate with goof troops. I think Predators discussing human hunting for the first time would be cool to see.
Heck, to make things more interesting, I would love if they studied the weapons that the Natives were using and then designed their very own bows, spears, and axes. You know, to keep the fight fair when they fly down to begin the hunt.
Quote from: skhellter on Oct 13, 2021, 06:04:45 PM
Quote from: Trash Queen on Oct 13, 2021, 03:38:44 AM
Quote from: skhellter on Oct 12, 2021, 11:30:26 PM
if the predators have dialogue in anything it better be some conan / mad max / man with no name
"WARRIOR way of life" bullshit (and keep it to a minimum) or the whole tone of the character (and what little we know of their culture) will be off.
https://upgifs.com//img/gifs/FrzWzdiI14pSo.gif
Predator with assless chaps plz
they already wear fishnets. It's the logical step.
Those nets are ceremonial and are part of a Yautja's pride. :p
Which colour of the rainbow is that one?
Quote from: The Shuriken on Oct 12, 2021, 05:22:31 PM
The Predator has been around since 1987. With several movies, novels, and comics, canon or not. There is no mystifying them anymore. They're hunters, they have tribes, codes of honor, they look different, and we've seen females. And they're home planet, and their subspecies rivals. Two members of the same species talking to one another takes absolutely nothing away.
Infact I would actually LOVE to see two Predators communicating and coordinating during a hunt. Like actually see it as it's happening, not off screen.
We need to get back to the mysterious killer vibe, the devil came for them,the eyes of the deamon, rather than the predator janitor came with the children and missus and had a little chit chat with translators about the global warming problem .Less is more, always.
(https://i.imgur.com/gMe373D.jpg)
Thanks to Mikey for bringing this to my attention. I'm definitely guessing we have two Predator performers in this one.
That would explain why the heroes have a chance. If you got two and at least one of them hasn't been to Earth before you could have a scenario where the newbie is learning how to be a hunter. I could even see the ending being something like Kee not being accepted by the rest of her people but the second Predator recognizes her skill.
Quote from: RidgeTop on Oct 16, 2021, 08:27:39 PM
(https://i.imgur.com/gMe373D.jpg)
Thanks to Mikey for bringing this to my attention. I'm definitely guessing we have two Predator performers in this one.
Yeah, I saw that too. I don't know if sharing a new Stan Winston School Instagram post of Kevin Peter Hall as the Predator gets us any closer to Dane confirming he's playing a Predator... but I think when Dane commented it was a pleasure being their sasquatch, I think hardly anyone was taking sasquatch literally (much to my dismay :'() and assume it means a Predator.
#TeamSasquatchBros4Life
May 22, 2022, 09:34:23 AMQuote from: SuperiorIronman on Oct 16, 2021, 09:21:00 PM
That would explain why the heroes have a chance. If you got two and at least one of them hasn't been to Earth before you could have a scenario where the newbie is learning how to be a hunter. I could even see the ending being something like Kee not being accepted by the rest of her people but the second Predator recognizes her skill.
Hmm. Not thrilled with that idea to be honest.
Hey so I can't find anything on it, but how would the Comanche handle one of their women becoming a warrior like in this new Predator film? There were tribes that had famous warrior women but I can't find anything about that being common practice with the Comanche, or even if it was allowed at all. That is one of the main themes of this film right?
Quote from: (Bad Blood) on Oct 16, 2021, 11:54:07 PM
Hey so I can't find anything on it, but how would the Comanche handle one their own women becoming a warrior like in this new Predator film? There were tribes that had famous warrior women but I can't find any from the Comanche. That is one of the main themes of this film right?
I'm guessing they'll be going for proto-Comanche to avoid being too tied to established Comanche history.
(https://i.imgur.com/V5Yrxa3.jpg)
Kyle too. Confirmed or not, I'm calling it, these be our Pred-boys.
Quote from: Voodoo Magic on Oct 16, 2021, 09:26:30 PM
I don't know if sharing a new Stan Winston School Instagram post of Kevin Peter Hall as the Predator gets us any closer to Dane confirming he's playing a Predator...
Coupled with the "big mood" it's got me pretty convinced, personally.
Quote from: RidgeTop on Oct 17, 2021, 09:40:58 AM
Quote from: (Bad Blood) on Oct 16, 2021, 11:54:07 PM
Hey so I can't find anything on it, but how would the Comanche handle one their own women becoming a warrior like in this new Predator film? There were tribes that had famous warrior women but I can't find any from the Comanche. That is one of the main themes of this film right?
I'm guessing they'll be going for proto-Comanche to avoid being too tied to established Comanche history.
(https://i.imgur.com/V5Yrxa3.jpg)
Kyle too. Confirmed or not, I'm calling it, these be our Pred-boys.
Quote from: Voodoo Magic on Oct 16, 2021, 09:26:30 PM
I don't know if sharing a new Stan Winston School Instagram post of Kevin Peter Hall as the Predator gets us any closer to Dane confirming he's playing a Predator...
Coupled with the "big mood" it's got me pretty convinced, personally.
Ah I see, that would make sense. Oh yeah I definitely think they are our boys.
Quote from: RidgeTop on Oct 17, 2021, 09:40:58 AM
Quote from: (Bad Blood) on Oct 16, 2021, 11:54:07 PM
Hey so I can't find anything on it, but how would the Comanche handle one their own women becoming a warrior like in this new Predator film? There were tribes that had famous warrior women but I can't find any from the Comanche. That is one of the main themes of this film right?
I'm guessing they'll be going for proto-Comanche to avoid being too tied to established Comanche history.
(https://i.imgur.com/V5Yrxa3.jpg)
Kyle too. Confirmed or not, I'm calling it, these be our Pred-boys.
Quote from: Voodoo Magic on Oct 16, 2021, 09:26:30 PM
I don't know if sharing a new Stan Winston School Instagram post of Kevin Peter Hall as the Predator gets us any closer to Dane confirming he's playing a Predator...
Coupled with the "big mood" it's got me pretty convinced, personally.
You cut off my last sentence saying we're pretty much
all convinced Dane is playing a Predator already. Websites like IGN are too.
Kyle and Dane are the same height though so it's possible they are sharing the same role. We'll see! :)👍
That's what I was thinking, two actors for the same role. I don't know why, but in my mind the little context we know for this movie fits better with one predator.
Yeah, for an on-location shoot in the wilderness where you have rugged terrain and dangerous wildlife, I would never go into production without two people who can play the Predator role.
Quote from: Voodoo Magic on Oct 17, 2021, 12:31:38 PM
You cut off my last sentence saying we're pretty much all convinced Dane is playing a Predator already. Websites like IGN are too.
Kyle and Dane are the same height though so it's possible they are sharing the same role. We'll see! :)👍
Didn't mean to cut ya off, was more just responding to that bit. Them both paying tribute to KPH feels like more evidence to me, or just a fun tease. But yeah that is the question right there, if he's a backup performer, or if they're playing separate Predator characters.
I'm thinking one myself.
Quote from: Voodoo Magic on Oct 16, 2021, 09:26:30 PM
Quote from: RidgeTop on Oct 16, 2021, 08:27:39 PM
(https://i.imgur.com/gMe373D.jpg)
Thanks to Mikey for bringing this to my attention. I'm definitely guessing we have two Predator performers in this one.
Yeah, I saw that too. I don't know if sharing a new Stan Winston School Instagram post of Kevin Peter Hall as the Predator gets us any closer to Dane confirming he's playing a Predator... but I think when Dane commented it was a pleasure being their sasquatch, I think hardly anyone was taking sasquatch literally (much to my dismay :'() and assume it means a Predator.
#TeamSasquatchBros4Life
There's something to be said about Dane being tagged by Jeff Cutter along with Amber and Dakota... but not Kyle. Seems to me like Kyle was a backup or photo double or something.
Quote from: hoffmanstokes on Oct 18, 2021, 11:33:54 PM
Quote from: Voodoo Magic on Oct 16, 2021, 09:26:30 PM
Quote from: RidgeTop on Oct 16, 2021, 08:27:39 PM
(https://i.imgur.com/gMe373D.jpg)
Thanks to Mikey for bringing this to my attention. I'm definitely guessing we have two Predator performers in this one.
Yeah, I saw that too. I don't know if sharing a new Stan Winston School Instagram post of Kevin Peter Hall as the Predator gets us any closer to Dane confirming he's playing a Predator... but I think when Dane commented it was a pleasure being their sasquatch, I think hardly anyone was taking sasquatch literally (much to my dismay :'() and assume it means a Predator.
#TeamSasquatchBros4Life
There's something to be said about Dane being tagged by Jeff Cutter along with Amber and Dakota... but not Kyle. Seems to me like Kyle was a backup or photo double or something.
Hmm. The plot, like my gravy, thickens....
(https://thumbs.gfycat.com/EvenKindlyGuineapig-size_restricted.gif)
Quote from: hoffmanstokes
There's something to be said about Dane being tagged by Jeff Cutter along with Amber and Dakota... but not Kyle. Seems to me like Kyle was a backup or photo double or something.
Based on social media activity, it seemed that Kyle was in Calgary for the shoot longer than Dane was. If there is a Primary Predator, my guess would be Kyle.
Makes sense given he's the one with prior experience playing a Predator.
While I was just having fun with the notion, it could be as simple as Dane was one of the people that Jeff really bonded with on set.
How much of the "title character" Kyle actually plays? We shall see!
(https://i.ibb.co/kSTMrvk/Screenshot-20210622-164855-Facebook.jpg)
Quote from: RidgeTop on Oct 18, 2021, 11:57:52 PM
Quote from: hoffmanstokes
There's something to be said about Dane being tagged by Jeff Cutter along with Amber and Dakota... but not Kyle. Seems to me like Kyle was a backup or photo double or something.
Based on social media activity, it seemed that Kyle was in Calgary for the shoot longer than Dane was. If there is a Primary Predator, my guess would be Kyle.
Makes sense given he's the one with prior experience playing a Predator.
Correct me if i'm wrong but I don't think Kyle has ever played a Predator in a Predator movie before?
Kyle is on the left. He played one of the Emissary Predators that were ultimately cut from "The Predator".
(https://www.avpgalaxy.net/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2019/12/emissary.jpg)
Quote from: Voodoo Magic on Oct 19, 2021, 04:32:18 PM
Kyle is on the left. He played one of the Emissary Predators that were ultimately cut from "The Predator".
https://www.avpgalaxy.net/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2019/12/emissary.jpg
My point exactly good sir!
We've never actually seen Kyle play a Predator in a Predator movie. Just pictures of him in a suit.
Quote from: hoffmanstokes on Oct 19, 2021, 04:36:56 PM
Quote from: Voodoo Magic on Oct 19, 2021, 04:32:18 PM
Kyle is on the left. He played one of the Emissary Predators that were ultimately cut from "The Predator".
https://www.avpgalaxy.net/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2019/12/emissary.jpg
My point exactly good sir!
We've never actually seen Kyle play a Predator in a Predator movie. Just pictures of him in a suit.
Kyle was also the back up for Fugitive and did most of the motion capture work for the Upgrade Predator:
https://youtu.be/4RU4nmT7Ku0?t=174
So yes, we have.
So Dane himself is the only one who liked this retweet.
https://twitter.com/FnVoodooMagic/status/1450487508492509184?t=tVs9PfbFTmJkA1OLxQ-uFw&s
So this naturally means....
1. A Sasquatch in "Skulls" is now confirmed.
2. No one else likes the idea.
;) :laugh:
LOL, that's hilarious :laugh:
Quote from: RidgeTop on Oct 18, 2021, 11:57:52 PM
Quote from: hoffmanstokes
There's something to be said about Dane being tagged by Jeff Cutter along with Amber and Dakota... but not Kyle. Seems to me like Kyle was a backup or photo double or something.
Based on social media activity, it seemed that Kyle was in Calgary for the shoot longer than Dane was. If there is a Primary Predator, my guess would be Kyle.
Makes sense given he's the one with prior experience playing a Predator.
That would be my best guess also. Kyle has more experience, so it would stand to reason that he'd have the primary Predator role, or "The" Predator role if there ends up being another creature/Predator in the movie.
(https://i.imgur.com/4TKkv1E.jpg)
Dane in the StudioADI showroom for his Instagram Story today.
Quote from: RidgeTop on Oct 20, 2021, 12:16:21 AM
(https://i.imgur.com/4TKkv1E.jpg)
Dane in the StudioADI showroom for his Instagram Story today.
So is he the sasquatch or the predator??
GodDAMN do I loathe the Wolf design.
Quote from: [cancerblack] on Oct 20, 2021, 07:51:47 AM
GodDAMN do I loathe the Wolf design.
I just do not like his face without the mask.
Honestly, I think Wolf's face is fine. Just keep the lighting to minimum and it's pretty tolerable. I def prefer his face over Scar's or Fugitive's.
Personally speaking, just tone down the yellow and I love him. Absolutely love how massacred his face is.
Me too. I quite like it, even though I prefer it masked. I think it is superior to fugitive's and obviously Scar's.
Those teeth though. Not sure why nearly every predator since P2 has had gigantic inner teeth
Definitely superior to scar and fugitive's face I agree.
Quote from: Doomofman on Oct 20, 2021, 10:23:44 AM
Those teeth though. Not sure why nearly every predator since P2 has had gigantic inner teeth
Indeed. And there's no reason to have Wolf's mouth open this large.
(https://i.ibb.co/YTvDNtC/IMG-20210508-072404.jpg)
Quote from: BigDaddyJohn on Oct 20, 2021, 10:23:08 AM
Me too. I quite like it, even though I prefer it masked. I think it is superior to fugitive's and obviously Scar's.
Agreed. I prefer Wolf masked, but unmasked I do find Wolf the least offensive of ADI's Crabators.
But Fugitive is definitely the best painted over Wolf (and Scar.) I find Wolf's paint schemes so poor and rubber mask looking.
(https://i.ibb.co/p4LQX9Q/Screenshot-20211020-072302-Chrome.jpg)
(https://i.ibb.co/Lt7w6tN/IMG-20211020-072435.jpg)
Everything in AVPR looked like rubber, and was overall poorly designed
Quote from: Voodoo Magic on Oct 20, 2021, 11:39:29 AM
Quote from: Doomofman on Oct 20, 2021, 10:23:44 AM
Those teeth though. Not sure why nearly every predator since P2 has had gigantic inner teeth
Indeed. And there's no reason to have Wolf's mouth open this large.
(https://i.ibb.co/YTvDNtC/IMG-20210508-072404.jpg)
Quote from: BigDaddyJohn on Oct 20, 2021, 10:23:08 AM
Me too. I quite like it, even though I prefer it masked. I think it is superior to fugitive's and obviously Scar's.
Agreed. I prefer Wolf masked, but unmasked I do find Wolf the least offensive of ADI's Crabators.
But Fugitive is definitely the best painted over Wolf (and Scar.) I find Wolf's paint schemes so poor and rubber mask looking.
(https://i.ibb.co/p4LQX9Q/Screenshot-20211020-072302-Chrome.jpg)
(https://i.ibb.co/Lt7w6tN/IMG-20211020-072435.jpg)
Yep I agree about the paint job. And you know I do agree on ADI's predator mouths. But with the actual lighting in AVPR I always thought Wolf looked mostly good with what was shown of him. On the behind the scenes though not so much ;D
Quote from: PAS Spinelli on Oct 20, 2021, 12:33:49 PM
Everything in AVPR looked like rubber, and was overall poorly designed
When you could see it through all the darkness
Yeah, I think Unmasked Wolf is the single worst Predator in the series. The sculpt is cartoonish, the skin looks like rubber, and the movement is stiff and mechanical. There's not really a nice thing to say about it as far as I'm concerned.
Quote from: Doomofman on Oct 20, 2021, 12:36:23 PM
Quote from: PAS Spinelli on Oct 20, 2021, 12:33:49 PM
Everything in AVPR looked like rubber, and was overall poorly designed
When you could see it through all the darkness
Shut up Dave
>Anytime anything ADI related is posted
>Responses
>Me:
(https://i.imgur.com/bjZ08lp.jpg)
Quote from: RidgeTop on Oct 20, 2021, 06:29:02 PM
>Anytime anything ADI related is posted
>Responses
>Me:
https://i.imgur.com/bjZ08lp.jpg
Seriously though.
(https://media.giphy.com/media/6AegeYBQ0gVVe/giphy.gif)
Quote from: RidgeTop on Oct 20, 2021, 06:29:02 PM
>Anytime anything ADI related is posted
>Responses
>Me:
https://i.imgur.com/bjZ08lp.jpg
Quote from: SizzyBubbles on Oct 20, 2021, 06:48:13 PM
Quote from: RidgeTop on Oct 20, 2021, 06:29:02 PM
>Anytime anything ADI related is posted
>Responses
>Me:
https://i.imgur.com/bjZ08lp.jpg
Seriously though. It's time for them to get a life. ;D ;D ;D
https://media.giphy.com/media/6AegeYBQ0gVVe/giphy.gif
Ouch! Significant others united is a very good thing to see, but telling us to get a life is perhaps a weee little bit harsh?
As anything, we should refer to our Elders.
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Grayback! What say you!Spoiler
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After almost 20 years, people are really expecting the criticism of ADI predators to stop now?
Quote from: 426Buddy on Oct 20, 2021, 07:27:07 PM
After almost 20 years, people are really expecting the criticism of ADI predators to stop now?
No, and of course folks are entitled to their opinions. We're just being snarky here.
But it would be nice to once in a while post about them without thinking "oh boy, here we go..." :P
Quote from: Voodoo Magic on Oct 20, 2021, 07:00:33 PM
Significant others united is a very good thing to see, but telling us to get a life is perhaps a weee little bit harsh?
I understand how that could come off as being harsh which is why I edited and deleted my snarky comment quickly after.
So I don't think its fair to bring that up as I already corrected myself? That being said, being a long time fan it gets very tiring seeing the same negative comments being brought up in every post. I'm down for constructive criticism in the appropriate threads (as there is even some stuff I agree with).
Quote from: SizzyBubbles on Oct 20, 2021, 07:55:23 PM
Quote from: Voodoo Magic on Oct 20, 2021, 07:00:33 PM
Significant others united is a very good thing to see, but telling us to get a life is perhaps a weee little bit harsh?
I understand how that could come off as being harsh which is why I edited and deleted my snarky comment quickly after. So I don't think its fair to bring that up as I already corrected myself?
That being said, being a long time fan it gets very tiring seeing the same negative comments being brought up in every post. I'm down for constructive criticism in the appropriate threads (as there is even some stuff I agree with).
Sizzy, RidgeTop messaged me that you edited your post, so I just came in to edit mine, but now that you responded again I guess I'll leave it.
But I'm not sure it's reasonable to suggest I'm not being fair for replying to you. I didn't notice you made an edit when I was typing a reply. If I did, I would have changed it.
In regards to this generally at no one in particular, I always suggest for
myself to remember to take a step back from any topic we're passionate about, if I sense I'm starting to feel heated towards others, especially if others do not see it your way. I have to remember we're all fans here.
As a fan of "Predator 2" before it was somewhat 'in' to do so.... or probably more pertinent... as a fan of "AvP: Requiem" I constantly hear what a piece of garbage the film is
constantly... more than ADI gets criticism for the Predators. But it's very freeing to not let other people's opinions affect you or the things you love. :)
Cheers!
Quote from: SizzyBubbles on Oct 20, 2021, 07:55:23 PM
Quote from: Voodoo Magic on Oct 20, 2021, 07:00:33 PM
Significant others united is a very good thing to see, but telling us to get a life is perhaps a weee little bit harsh?
I understand how that could come off as being harsh which is why I edited and deleted my snarky comment quickly after. So I don't think its fair to bring that up as I already corrected myself?
That being said, being a long time fan it gets very tiring seeing the same negative comments being brought up in every post. I'm down for constructive criticism in the appropriate threads (as there is even some stuff I agree with).
You may want to avoid the Egg on the Sulaco thread.. heck may just want to avoid internet forums.
Egg on the Sulaco thread is at least dedicated to just that one idea. You know what you're getting into. There's no thread safe from "crabator" bashing. You think you're talking about ice cream? Wrong, it's crabator time.
Quote from: SiL on Oct 20, 2021, 08:50:42 PM
Egg on the Sulaco thread is at least dedicated to just that one idea. You know what you're getting into. There's no thread safe from "crabator" bashing. You think you're talking about ice cream? Wrong, it's crabator time.
Yep, that's the thing I'm pointing at.
Someone possibly playing a Pred stopped into ADI...
Cool, right?CRABATORS!!!
Quote from: SiL on Oct 20, 2021, 08:50:42 PM
Egg on the Sulaco thread is at least dedicated to just that one idea. You know what you're getting into. There's no thread safe from "crabator" bashing. You think you're talking about ice cream? Wrong, it's crabator time.
To be fair it's the nature of every Alien & Predator thread here. Alien or Predator, often the conversation leads off the book, comic, or film at hand into many different directions, often into ongoing debates that never end - just go on hiatus. :)
Quote from: RidgeTop on Oct 20, 2021, 08:56:27 PM
Quote from: SiL on Oct 20, 2021, 08:50:42 PM
Egg on the Sulaco thread is at least dedicated to just that one idea. You know what you're getting into. There's no thread safe from "crabator" bashing. You think you're talking about ice cream? Wrong, it's crabator time.
Yep, that's the thing I'm pointing at.
Someone possibly playing a Pred stopped into ADI.
Cool, right?CRABATORS!!!
Hey, but to be fair, we all do it. We can't just only get annoyed with the topics we don't agree with.
Sure, it's the nature of conversations to go on tangents. But all roads seem to lead to crabators. It's one topic that seems to be able to penetrate everything more than anything else, and it's usually the same two or three people getting the ball rolling every time.
Quote from: SiL on Oct 20, 2021, 09:31:01 PM
Sure, it's the nature of conversations to go on tangents. But all roads seem to lead to crabators. It's one topic that seems to be able to penetrate everything more than anything else, and it's usually the same two or three people getting the ball rolling every time.
Nah, it usually comes up when it's relevant. Ridley says why Alien Covenant failed, we talk about the beast is cooked again. AvPR, comes up, people talk about how bad it is again. Comics and it goes back to tracing and Marvel again now. A pic of an ADI Predator shows up, people will reflect on how unhappy they are with it (including you in this thread). And it's going to stay revelant as ADI works on Skulls. Fandom baby! :)
Yes people do complain (and complain about people complaining like I did) here about everything.
Personally I try to be mindful about how often and how I go about my criticisms, even with things in the franchises I really don't like.
We've driven away franchise creators from this forum before who were kind enough to engage with us because of how poorly we've gone about criticisms, and although StudioADI doesn't currently have a social media manager active here like they did before, that may not always be the case. Hell I regret how I went about things with NECA even though I thought I was being civil.
As SizzyBubbles mentioned, just gets tiring, there are threads to discuss it till heart's content. And like her, I also agree with some of the criticisms of ADI designs, as much as I overall love that studio. There's a distinct difference between constructive criticism in the appropriate places and endless trolling/bullying.
Quote from: RidgeTop on Oct 20, 2021, 10:07:50 PM
We've driven away franchise creators from this forum before who were kind enough to engage with us because of how poorly we've gone about criticisms,
I'm innocent I tell you, innocent!
Quote from: SiL on Oct 20, 2021, 10:10:49 PM
Quote from: RidgeTop on Oct 20, 2021, 10:07:50 PM
We've driven away franchise creators from this forum before who were kind enough to engage with us because of how poorly we've gone about criticisms,
I'm innocent I tell you, innocent!
:D
I wasn't just pointing at you!
"Just" :laugh:
But it's true. There's not even a fine line between being a passionate fan and just being an obnoxious bully. The problem is when you're only surrounded by other fans it gets difficult to see just how noxious the behaviour really is, and it's not until you come up against one of the artists that you get a wake up call.
Quote from: RidgeTop on Oct 20, 2021, 10:07:50 PM
Yes people do complain (and complain about people complaining like I did) here about everything.
Personally I try to be mindful about how often and how I go about my criticisms, even with things in the franchises I really don't like.
We've driven away franchise creators from this forum before who were kind enough to engage with us because of how poorly we've gone about criticisms, and although StudioADI doesn't currently have a social media manager active here like they did before, that may not always be the case. Hell I regret how I went about things with NECA even though I thought I was being civil.
As SizzyBubbles mentioned, just gets tiring, there are threads to discuss it till heart's content. And like her, I also agree with some of the criticisms of ADI designs, as much as I overall love that studio. There's a distinct difference between constructive criticism in the appropriate places and endless trolling/bullying.
Are you suggesting the recent activity in this thread as endless trolling/bullying? I think the matter at hand is, if you weren't a fan of ADI Predators, it wouldn't be bothering you, and we wouldn't be having this conversation.
I doubt Phillip Kennedy Johnson and artist Salvador Larroca will be interested in talking to us after some of the things and jokes you have said in these forums, but you're never calling the creators 'names' and neither do the people who criticize ADI Predators. They criticize the work, but have nice things to say about the people themselves and other work.
The point is, we can't get angry over people not liking ADI Predators but be fine with people not liking the creative team over Marvel Comics. We have to be true to ourselves. Otherwise we'll be accused of kowtowing to creatives like some other outlets will be.
Nobody's getting angry at people disliking anything.
I'm saying the recent activity compounded with the history of this sort of activity could be considered as such to some.
Sure I'm a fan of ADI, call me biased if you like. But if people constantly brought up complaints in this, that, and the other thread about a specific thing that plenty of people do like, I'd say "maybe ease up a bit?" as I'm attempting to say here.
If I thought the Winston designs were shit (I'd be crazy) and brought it up any time that studio was mentioned even in passing, I'd wager you might get a bit irritated yourself.
So to say akin to: "If you didn't like the thing you like that we constantly bash you wouldn't be annoyed." I mean... yeah, that's correct.
Sparingly I think it's fine to poke at things we dislike when the topic arises, but ad nauseum it's... well, nauseating.
But as I said, there are threads for it too should folks want to rant about it endlessly. Not trying to silence anyone, just sharing perspective here.
With Larroca it's an ethical issue, so that's a bit different I'd say. Tristan Jones who is friendly with PKJ has called out the art publicly. We probably wouldn't want to talk to Larroca either.
Quote from: RidgeTop on Oct 20, 2021, 11:42:23 PM
I'm saying the recent activity compounded with the history of this sort of activity could be considered as such to some.
Sure I'm a fan of ADI, call me biased if you like. But if people constantly brought up complaints in this, that, and the other thread about a specific thing that plenty of people do like, I'd say "maybe ease up a bit?" as I'm attempting to say here.
If I thought the Winston designs were shit (I'd be crazy) and brought it up any time that studio was mentioned even in passing, I'd wager you might get a bit irritated yourself.
So to say akin to: "If you didn't like the thing you like that we constantly bash you wouldn't be annoyed." I mean... yeah, that's correct.
Sparingly I think it's fine to poke at things we dislike when the topic arises, but ad nauseum it's... well, nauseating.
But as I said, there are threads for it too should folks want to rant about it endlessly. Not trying to silence anyone, just sharing perspective here.
With Larroca it's an ethical issue, so that's a bit different I'd say. Tristan Jones who is friendly with PKJ has called out the art publicly. We probably wouldn't want to talk to Larroca either.
We'll disagree if its "ad nauseum." But again, I didn't even start the conversation. Let me repeat that, I didn't even start the conversation. And many participated. And none of it was mean spirited. So unless we're going to be banning our community from saying how they feel about creature designs, or banning me from participating, I'm not certain where we're going here.
Again, I always suggest for anyone to take a step back from any topic we're passionate about, if they sense their starting to feel heated about it, feel their skin may be thinner on the particular topic, especially if they're one seemingly in the minority opinion. A community member did the very same thing in our Marvel Alien comic thread that I very much like, and unfortunately lashed out. So I gave him the same advice. Because I do think there was definitely some lashing out today, even if it was edited afterwards.
It's important for all of us to remember we're all fans here. Cheers mate! Cheers to all. I really do love everyone here. This whole community. The crazy and the extra crazys. The confident. The insecure. The artists. The haters and the lovers. The nihilists and the existentialists. Can't express how much I appreciate everyone in our AvPGalaxy community and what makes everyone special in their own way. Just love ya all!
Nobody has mentioned banning anything. Maybe Sizzy got "heated" with the "grow up" comment but she corrected herself.
At best there's been an appeal for people to maybe be more aware of getting hung up on a particular topic that seems to rear its ugly head at the slightest provocation, and leave it to relevant threads rather than let it permeate every tangentially related topic.
Why is this being characterized as anyone advocating banning speech? That feels like a fairly disingenuous attempt to make the conversation sound less reasonable than it has been.
Sizzy's a she fyi 😋
Corrected! Thank you.
I might be extra crazy, but I love this community as well.
Quote from: Trash Queen on Oct 21, 2021, 03:00:06 AM
Sizzy's a she fyi 😋
Yep! They be a couple! ;D
Quote from: SiL on Oct 21, 2021, 02:54:54 AM
Nobody has mentioned banning anything. Maybe Sizzy got "heated" with the "grow up" comment but she corrected herself.
At best there's been an appeal for people to maybe be more aware of getting hung up on a particular topic that seems to rear its ugly head at the slightest provocation, and leave it to relevant threads rather than let it permeate every tangentially related topic.
Why is this being characterized as anyone advocating banning speech? That feels like a fairly disingenuous attempt to make the conversation sound less reasonable than it has been.
Maybe I didn't convey it properly but it was not supposed to be taken literally. It's an overreaction to answer an overreaction if that makes any sense. It's a
where do we go from here? The silliness of it all.
Quote from: Voodoo Magic on Oct 21, 2021, 03:50:57 AM
Yep! They be a couple! ;D
I don't get the feeling this was supposed to be broadcast quite so loudly my dude, nor do I see how it's relevant here :-\
QuoteMaybe I didn't convey it properly but it was not supposed to be taken literally. It's an overreaction to answer an overreaction if that makes any sense. It's a where do we go from here? The silliness of it all.
You'll need to explain, I'm afraid. I don't think what RidgeTop said was an overreaction; he's not the first to mention feeling that this particular dead horse gets dragged out all too often, so clearly he's not alone. The solution was clearly stated -- think before one posts, and perhaps take it to a relevant thread if the unquenchable urge arises. These are pretty standard things to request, I'm not sure why they're being chategorized as unreasonable here :-\
Quote from: RidgeTop on Oct 20, 2021, 10:07:50 PM
We've driven away franchise creators from this forum before who were kind enough to engage with us because of how poorly we've gone about criticisms, and although StudioADI doesn't currently have a social media manager active here like they did before, that may not always be the case. Hell I regret how I went about things with NECA even though I thought I was being civil.
Sure, people should be civil about how they feel, but its also being aware that there will always be fans who are more uncivilized about these kind of things than others. That alone shouldn't never get them to run away due to the poor behavior of others. Its also not fair for the ones who are behaving as well, as now they are lumped into this negative group they never asked to be part of. Its something that big studios and creators should be aware of by now.
Quote from: RidgeTop on Oct 20, 2021, 10:07:50 PM
As SizzyBubbles mentioned, just gets tiring, there are threads to discuss it till heart's content. And like her, I also agree with some of the criticisms of ADI designs, as much as I overall love that studio. There's a distinct difference between constructive criticism in the appropriate places and endless trolling/bullying.
I mean....yes, but also I doubt that ADI actually looks here and cares about our thoughts on this. I don't know, they don't strike me as the kind of people that bend easily due to some trolling here and there (if there is any, as some light jokes aren't real toxic stuff.)
I mean, I guess I don't see how our talks about ADI's handling of Predator design be truly negative in the sense some make it out to be. Tiresome, maybe for me as I don't heavily frequent here. I say this with the experience of being a Predator Hunting Grounds fan and looking at the horrendous mess in the Illfonic Predator Hunting Grounds Community Forums, that right there is real trolling/bullying, by comparison, we are organized and civil with each other here with some
slight heated ideas here and there. Its kind of like that theory of mine that Predators can live for tens of hundreds of years convo I had in one of the PHG threads, I try to convay my thoughts as heatless as possible and I never see anyone else there give me any kind of heat there, least that's how it was for me.
I just think the point is that in this fandom or any fandom, its just expected that passionate debates will happen and people must keep in mind that its just talk between fans that no one shouldn't get angry about ever. Especially for any big franchise creator out there, they too should keep this in mind so that it doesn't grind them either.
Quote from: SiL on Oct 21, 2021, 04:00:19 AM
Quote from: Voodoo Magic on Oct 21, 2021, 03:50:57 AM
Yep! They be a couple! ;D
I don't get the feeling this was supposed to be broadcast quite so loudly my dude, nor do I see how it's relevant here :-\
Geez SiL, leave it to you to twist such a nice joyous thing you knew nothing about (you didn't even know she's female) into something bad and then question it's relevance. If RT has a problem he will let me know.
I'm done taking your bait brother. Sheesh.
People in a relationship is nice and joyous.
Posting unsolicited personal information about forum members, not so much.
I'll leave you to work out which I have a problem with.
Quote from: SiL on Oct 21, 2021, 04:15:38 AM
People in a relationship is nice and joyous.
Posting unsolicited personal information about forum members, not so much.
I'll leave you to work out which I have a problem with.
I wouldn't and didn't share someone's personal information nor share what's come up previously in forums, Twitter and I believe the podcast. We're not using real names. How do you take such a nice thing and turn it into something so awful?
If it's any consolation it went totally over my head at first, I laid thinking for a whole solid minute, about how Sizzy the individual could be a couple I'm very tired.
Quote from: Trash Queen on Oct 21, 2021, 06:22:49 AM
If it's any consolation it went totally over my head at first, I laid thinking for a whole solid minute, about how Sizzy the individual could be a couple I'm very tired.
I picked it up from the "significant other" line several pages back, but it's not like we can talk about public declarations.
On topic, I feel like this whole mess snowballed from when I said I hate Wolf's design, which I do, but it has more to do with him looking like a 7 foot tall NECA figure than the jaws specifically.
Moving on now folk.
Quote from: Corporal Hicks on Oct 21, 2021, 10:56:32 AM
Moving on now folk.
Have you heard any whispers about when we might see an update regarding the film?
You know, I come into this thread to see any updates on SKULLS, instead all I get are ADI bashing and "Crabator" stuff. Yeah, you all lose sight so easily.
Oh, and so you all know, the creators very much do read this site, and one even warned me away. Now I believe him. Bye forever.
Rightio
I wish it said "Skulls" but I really dig this one:
@CreepyDuckArt :
"New colour variation of my concept poster for PREDATOR or SKULL or PREDATOR:SKULL?!"
(https://i.ibb.co/fpSqSCt/20211021-145214.jpg)
https://t.co/WXVmBWjaeb
Found some old posts that tagged some people most likely linked with Skulls
https://www.instagram.com/p/CTS5iRYhqTGv_k-A2NBokLLXhzHG7WoSwNz8Ag0/
Quote from: ace3g on Oct 31, 2021, 01:51:27 AM
Found some old posts that tagged some people most likely linked with Skulls
https://www.instagram.com/p/CTS5iRYhqTG/
2006 & 2021.
Nice find.
EDIT:
These ones taken down too. Man they're being secretive about this movie. Posts were pretty innocuous.
Someone is watching this thread to see what is being found. :laugh:
Delete all signs of "Skulls". Priority one. All other priorities rescinded
Quote from: Corporal Hicks on Nov 02, 2021, 11:32:50 AM
Someone is watching this thread to see what is being found. :laugh:
Hopefully we see something official soon. A confirmed release date would be a good start.
Didn't seem like there was anything special in those posts ???
Quote from: Wysps on Nov 02, 2021, 08:15:14 PM
Didn't seem like there was anything special in those posts ???
They were probably deleted because of the people tagged in them.
Because there's not much official happening around this movie I've come up with a new theory which I'm only like 95% joking about...
Having the two creature actors is because they're shooting one set of takes with the predator and one set of takes with the bigfoot in case the legal action wont let them release a predator movie, they'll just turn it into a bigfoot movie
:laugh:
Weird because the posts are still there if you go directly to IG
https://www.instagram.com/p/CTS5iRYhqTGv_k-A2NBokLLXhzHG7WoSwNz8Ag0/ (https://www.instagram.com/p/CTS5iRYhqTGv_k-A2NBokLLXhzHG7WoSwNz8Ag0/)
Quote from: Doomofman on Nov 02, 2021, 10:54:15 PM
Because there's not much official happening around this movie I've come up with a new theory which I'm only like 95% joking about...
Having the two creature actors is because they're shooting one set of takes with the predator and one set of takes with the bigfoot in case the legal action wont let them release a predator movie, they'll just turn it into a bigfoot movie
:laugh:
That 5% not joking is a scary thought.
Less conspiratorially, it could be to create misleading trailers before "SURPRISE, IT'S A PREDATOR MOVIE".
I mean sure the cat's out of the bag but dumber things have happened.
Quote from: Doomofman on Nov 02, 2021, 10:54:15 PM
Because there's not much official happening around this movie I've come up with a new theory which I'm only like 95% joking about...
Having the two creature actors is because they're shooting one set of takes with the predator and one set of takes with the bigfoot in case the legal action wont let them release a predator movie, they'll just turn it into a bigfoot movie
:laugh:
Jury Trial begins April 19th 2022 so I would imagine "Skulls" will be released prior to that date. Then it will all be about compensating the Thomas Brothers retroactively if the jury favors that the transfer of copyright ownership of their "Hunter" script should have begun in 2021... i.e. probably a second lawsuit would ensue.
And 20th Century Studios will still own 100% of Hunter/Predator internationally/outside the U.S.. No need to change it to a Sasquatch there. ;D
Just a thought I had on the bus.
Predator warpaint.
Perhaps a rite of adulthood parallel between protagonist and antagonist.
Quote from: Doomofman on Nov 02, 2021, 10:54:15 PM
Because there's not much official happening around this movie I've come up with a new theory which I'm only like 95% joking about...
Having the two creature actors is because they're shooting one set of takes with the predator and one set of takes with the bigfoot in case the legal action wont let them release a predator movie, they'll just turn it into a bigfoot movie
:laugh:
Love it man! TeamSasquatch# 4 life!
Quote from: BlueMarsalis79 on Nov 03, 2021, 03:26:14 PM
Just a thought I had on the bus.
Predator warpaint.
Perhaps a rite of adulthood parallel between protagonist and antagonist.
DID YOU KNOW THAT TQ USES FACEPAI-, ah nevermind
I still don't get it.
Quote from: Kradan on Nov 03, 2021, 04:13:05 PM
Quote from: BlueMarsalis79 on Nov 03, 2021, 03:26:14 PM
Just a thought I had on the bus.
Predator warpaint.
Perhaps a rite of adulthood parallel between protagonist and antagonist.
DID YOU KNOW THAT TQ USES FACEPAI-, ah nevermind
Stop saying this then refusing to elaborate. WHAT do you MEAN Kradan?!
Quote from: BlueMarsalis79 on Nov 03, 2021, 03:26:14 PM
Just a thought I had on the bus.
Predator warpaint.
Perhaps a rite of adulthood parallel between protagonist and antagonist.
That would be a pretty cool thing to see
skulls will now be called Prey =)
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(https://scontent-cdt1-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t39.30808-6/256405109_1716649211860163_9118577094675035872_n.png?_nc_cat=110&ccb=1-5&_nc_sid=730e14&_nc_ohc=hmXutf9QsQMAX-KwcIc&tn=gX5J9d_GQtSdV6l8&_nc_ht=scontent-cdt1-1.xx&oh=4e76582108fd0efd2b156cc3e55f7f46&oe=61946B7A)
:o :o
Instagram post says Hulu and no theatrical at the moment
https://www.instagram.com/p/CWLsF3vN8Qc/?utm_medium=copy_link
https://deadline.com/2021/11/predator-prequel-prey-dan-trachtenberg-skulls-title-release-date-1234872831/
looks like only one predator this time around... interesting.
Jeff Cutter responding to comments on instagram.
instantni_dobi
Not Skull? Just "PREY"? 🤔
5h
Quotejeff_cutter
@instantni_dobi Skulls was always the code name
kaijufanatic2001
I wish it was coming to theaters instead of just Hulu
5h
Quotejeff_cutter
@kaijufanatic2001 hopefully it still will also
2h
https://twitter.com/LloydJassin/status/1459593487184183297
https://twitter.com/Zernerlaw/status/1459616443079618563
so theater release is still possible? :)
Yes but I wouldn't bet on it.
I wonder how many money do they spend on promoting it in theatres
Tom Woodruff jnrs Instagram seems to credit Dane Diliegro a the Predator in the promotional still.
Quote from: SiL on Nov 14, 2021, 08:15:48 PM
Tom Woodruff jnrs Instagram seems to credit Dane Diliegro a the Predator in the promotional still.
just posted the same thing in the other thread. good eye. with jeff cutter and TWJ both tagging just dane in their posts, i believe we may have our predator here people.
Amber Midthunder made a comment on Instagram. Somebody should post it here.
Quote from: David on Nov 15, 2021, 04:38:19 PM
Amber Midthunder made a comment on Instagram. Somebody should post it here.
The one from a few days ago? I can post it.
(https://i.ibb.co/3zYSc7n/Screenshot-20211115-121131-Instagram.jpg)
https://www.instagram.com/p/CWMJ_EyPab9/?utm_medium=copy_link
Yes. I found it in an interesting article on comicbook.com.
Quote from: David on Nov 14, 2021, 09:55:07 AM
so theater release is still possible? :)
I'm guessing it'll get a UK cinema release
Repeat but from official Hulu account.
https://twitter.com/hulu/status/1460391923647135755
Quote from: ace3g on Nov 16, 2021, 03:09:37 AM
Repeat but from official Hulu account.
https://twitter.com/hulu/status/1460391923647135755
i could be wrong but saying ONLY on hulu means that it won't be on any other streaming service. there may still be potential for theatrical.
It was announced as coming to Star (via Disney+) internationally.
Quote from: Corporal Hicks on Nov 16, 2021, 08:31:11 AM
It was announced as coming to Star (via Disney+) internationally.
True, but I'm sure Star releases have had UK cinematic releases as well. Might be wrong but I thought they had.
Quote from: Corporal Hicks on Nov 16, 2021, 08:31:11 AM
It was announced as coming to Star (via Disney+) internationally.
Will Star charge us to watch it? I've only ever watched free movies on Star.
I was under the impression you only got Star through Disney+ so you're already paying your subscription.
On the one hand I would have said it's possible they might do a "premiere access"-type thing like they did with Black Widow and Jungle Cruise earlier this year where you had to pay extra. But seeing as this is going to be a streaming-only release, I'd imagine it'll just be included with the regular Disney+ subscription.
Quote from: Corporal Hicks on Nov 16, 2021, 01:39:30 PM
I was under the impression you only got Star through Disney+ so you're already paying your subscription.
Awesome! Let's hope they don't try and charge us £15 for it.
Quote from: hoffmanstokes on Nov 16, 2021, 07:45:20 AM
Quote from: ace3g on Nov 16, 2021, 03:09:37 AM
Repeat but from official Hulu account.
https://twitter.com/hulu/status/1460391923647135755
i could be wrong but saying ONLY on hulu means that it won't be on any other streaming service. there may still be potential for theatrical.
I don't know. When I read "only on Hulu" for Prey.... as in "only in theaters" for West Side Story, I take it as the release is exclusively available in that format.
(https://i.ibb.co/MDmy7MZ/Screenshot-20211116-085617-Twitter.jpg)
And if we go back years ago, way before Marc Toberoff said Prey would be released on Hulu, back when the Disney execs came to 20th Century Fox after the acquisition and reviewed and hacked up their current film slate in development, it was announced roughly half of those films would be moved from a theatrical release to a streaming release. So this all lines up.
Quote from: Voodoo Magic on Nov 16, 2021, 02:06:32 PM
Quote from: hoffmanstokes on Nov 16, 2021, 07:45:20 AM
Quote from: ace3g on Nov 16, 2021, 03:09:37 AM
Repeat but from official Hulu account.
https://twitter.com/hulu/status/1460391923647135755
i could be wrong but saying ONLY on hulu means that it won't be on any other streaming service. there may still be potential for theatrical.
I don't know. When I read "only on Hulu" for Prey.... as in "only in theaters" for West Side Story, I take it as the release is exclusively available in that format.
(https://i.ibb.co/MDmy7MZ/Screenshot-20211116-085617-Twitter.jpg)
And if we go back years ago, way before Marc Toberoff said Prey would be released on Hulu, back when the Disney execs came to 20th Century Fox after the acquisition and reviewed and hacked up their current film slate in development, it was announced roughly half of those films would be moved from a theatrical release to a streaming release. So this all lines up.
well that's disappointing.
Suddenly I fear this movie will give us another human-predator alliance... I've already seen that, and it was horrible, so please no.
Quote from: BigDaddyJohn on Nov 16, 2021, 02:45:13 PM
Suddenly I fear this movie will give us another human-predator alliance... I've already seen that, and it was horrible, so please no.
It will be Human- Sasquatch alliance against the Predator.
#TeamSasquatchQuote from: BigDaddyJohn on Nov 16, 2021, 02:45:13 PM
Suddenly I fear this movie will give us another human-predator alliance... I've already seen that, and it was horrible, so please no.
What spurred this fear all of a sudden?
*Instead of dead bodies below, picture dead bears?(https://i.ibb.co/wJHRqCR/IMG-20211116-095734.jpg)
IDK, just a really sudden feeling, and the setting that could favor that also. I mean, possible europeans columnists arriving at one point in the movie, the heroin and predator ending up in an unneasy alliance... I could totally see that happening.
Quote from: BigDaddyJohn on Nov 16, 2021, 04:14:41 PM
IDK, just a really sudden feeling, and the setting that could favor that also. I mean, possible europeans columnists arriving at one point in the movie, the heroin and predator ending up in an unneasy alliance... I could totally see that happening.
Hmm.
The question is will Naru be saying those magical words to the Elder, only for the Elder to repeat those magical words to Harrigan so many years later....
(https://66.media.tumblr.com/22bb214b6dbd8809ba1ee79ae5122e00/tumblr_ny735v58P41uk3oooo1_400.gif)
Haha possible also !
Quote from: BigDaddyJohn on Nov 16, 2021, 04:14:41 PM
columnists arriving
Now all I can picture is a bunch of Vice and Gawker writers invading the plains to cancel the Predator mid-hunt.
As much as I would like to see Greyback again (although, more correctly, the Golden Angel), I would really not want a retcon of "1718". This is a very good comic. It would be great if the plot is implemented in such a way that the Predator starts hunting Indians, and by the end of the film, events will force him and Naru to cooperate against the colonists. And as an epilogue to show the meeting of Angel and Adolini.
Let's not, and say we did.
Quote from: Voodoo Magic on Nov 16, 2021, 05:35:09 PM
Quote from: BigDaddyJohn on Nov 16, 2021, 04:14:41 PM
IDK, just a really sudden feeling, and the setting that could favor that also. I mean, possible europeans columnists arriving at one point in the movie, the heroin and predator ending up in an unneasy alliance... I could totally see that happening.
Hmm.
The question is will Naru be saying those magical words to the Elder, only for the Elder to repeat those magical words to Harrigan so many years later....
https://66.media.tumblr.com/22bb214b6dbd8809ba1ee79ae5122e00/tumblr_ny735v58P41uk3oooo1_400.gif
Idk about Predator allying itself with the tribe, as there is no real motivation I can see a Predator to do so, rather instead I can see desperate Spaniards allying with Naru and her tribe to be rid of the creature that was also hunting them too. Teeth clenching teamwork trope, ya know?
Oh and that's a surprising thought Voodoo, I didn't think you would want to retcon such a great comic book classic?
Quote from: Mr.Turok on Nov 16, 2021, 07:31:45 PM
Quote from: Voodoo Magic on Nov 16, 2021, 05:35:09 PM
Quote from: BigDaddyJohn on Nov 16, 2021, 04:14:41 PM
IDK, just a really sudden feeling, and the setting that could favor that also. I mean, possible europeans columnists arriving at one point in the movie, the heroin and predator ending up in an unneasy alliance... I could totally see that happening.
Hmm.
The question is will Naru be saying those magical words to the Elder, only for the Elder to repeat those magical words to Harrigan so many years later....
https://66.media.tumblr.com/22bb214b6dbd8809ba1ee79ae5122e00/tumblr_ny735v58P41uk3oooo1_400.gif
Idk about Predator allying itself with the tribe, as there is no real motivation I can see a Predator to do so, rather instead I can see desperate Spaniards allying with Naru and her tribe to be rid of the creature that was also hunting them too. Teeth clenching teamwork trope, ya know?
Oh and that's a surprising thought Voodoo, I didn't think you would want to retcon such a great comic book classic?
I just ♡adore♡ Predator 1718. It's on my Predator Mount Rushmore of comics along with Predator (Concrete Jungle) Issue #1 and Predator: Hunters Volumes I & II. But 1718 isn't even the length of a single comic and has been always a retelling in my mind anyway (the unknown Thomas' story behind that gun being the original tale.)
In 1990 the Thomas Brothers and Kevin Peter Hall both alluded to the flintlock being an opening for a "Predator 3", with the Thomas Brothers receiving a half-hearted offer to direct - if Predator 2 was a hit at the box office. So the creators seemingly felt this was the right direction to go with a new Predator film and I do too. I just hope both Trachtenberg and Patrick Aison can finally do it justice (if it ultimately comes true).
I'm not so bothered with 1718 being retconned either. The comics are in support of theatrical, so it's not unusual that this happens. I enjoy 1718 but it's never been one of those ones I hold on up high personally.
You heathen! :D Digital coloring? Bah! 1718 should be held up high for its oil painted pages alone! Those are gallery pieces!
(https://i.ibb.co/7JNKzfs/vagj-Nm-Pn-2109191451051gpadd.jpg)
Quote from: Mr.Turok on Nov 16, 2021, 07:31:45 PM
Quote from: Voodoo Magic on Nov 16, 2021, 05:35:09 PM
Quote from: BigDaddyJohn on Nov 16, 2021, 04:14:41 PM
IDK, just a really sudden feeling, and the setting that could favor that also. I mean, possible europeans columnists arriving at one point in the movie, the heroin and predator ending up in an unneasy alliance... I could totally see that happening.
Hmm.
The question is will Naru be saying those magical words to the Elder, only for the Elder to repeat those magical words to Harrigan so many years later....
https://66.media.tumblr.com/22bb214b6dbd8809ba1ee79ae5122e00/tumblr_ny735v58P41uk3oooo1_400.gif
Idk about Predator allying itself with the tribe, as there is no real motivation I can see a Predator to do so, rather instead I can see desperate Spaniards allying with Naru and her tribe to be rid of the creature that was also hunting them too. Teeth clenching teamwork trope, ya know?
Oh and that's a surprising thought Voodoo, I didn't think you would want to retcon such a great comic book classic?
I'd actually prefer that.
Quote from: Voodoo Magic on Nov 17, 2021, 12:00:56 PM
You heathen! :D Digital coloring? Bah! 1718 should be held up high for its oil painted pages alone! Those are gallery pieces!
https://i.ibb.co/7JNKzfs/vagj-Nm-Pn-2109191451051gpadd.jpg
Oil painted ? Looks more like combination of watercolors, color penciles and some ink to me
I've juist done some bit of Wikipedia reading on 1718's artist, Igor Kordej, and found this:
QuoteBecause of his speed as an artist, at his peak, Kordej was producing artwork for three or four monthly books at the same time. However, as a result, he has attracted heavy criticism for the quality of his art, especially from the readers. Eventually he got fired from Marvel in April 2004.
Marvel fired somebody 'cause of his/her artwork's quality ? Big f**king LOL
Quote from: Kradan on Nov 17, 2021, 03:23:52 PM
Oil painted ? Looks more like combination of watercolors, color penciles and some ink to me
Yeah, definitely possible. The current owner of this piece indicated it was oil, but I can't personally swear by it.
Gorgeous, whatever the medium.
Quote from: Corporal Hicks on Nov 17, 2021, 09:30:29 AM
I'm not so bothered with 1718 being retconned either. The comics are in support of theatrical, so it's not unusual that this happens. I enjoy 1718 but it's never been one of those ones I hold on up high personally.
I mean it would be neat, going by what Voodoo said, if that 1718 mini story actually became the opener to Prey. Kind of like that deleted beginning sequence in AVP where we had that once scene of the Whaling Station in the early 1900s.
Grain of salt from IMDb cast listing:
CJ Collard ... French Trapper
Quote from: ace3g on Nov 19, 2021, 03:36:16 AM
https://www.instagram.com/p/CWcSGhAL6YL/
Grain of salt from IMDb cast listing:
CJ Collard ... French Trapper
That's a cool hat Dan's got there.
Six fingered men near me... Wait... What ?
And a french trapper, here we go with the europeans.
Inigo Montaya is a character whose father was killed by a six fingered man and seeks revenge.
Quote from: BigDaddyJohn on Nov 19, 2021, 11:52:14 AM
And a french trapper, here we go with the europeans.
(https://thumbs.gfycat.com/EvenKindlyGuineapig-size_restricted.gif)
I'm cool with that. Predator was always drawn to the conflict. And that was one hell of a conflict.
(https://i.ibb.co/6nMZMy6/Screenshot-20211119-145158-Instagram.jpg)
https://www.instagram.com/p/CWdymI9PiFm/?utm_medium=copy_link
Last photo you can see Harlo wearing same crew hoodie
Quote from: ace3g on Nov 19, 2021, 03:36:16 AM
https://www.instagram.com/p/CWcSGhAL6YL/
Still trying to figure out who Alex is from the 2nd photo. Not seeing anyone with that name in that crew listings so far.
If I had to deal with another retcon, fine. It's in service to the films not the other way around even if the films tend to adapt stuff from the extended lore.
That all being said you could still have 1718 kind of work with a name change or they just happened to have the same name given Hunting Grounds does have a flintlock trophy. So unlike the situation with Weyland you could have both still work. More than one Predator has a flintlock trophy and while it might not be Greyback anymore, Golden Angel could be its own character now having encountered his own Adolini. People can have the same name, it's just not the same Adolini as the one Greyback encounters. Alternatively for any reprint they could change the name to fit in whatever canon they go for.
We could easily have Adolini the pirate, and Adolini whatever he is if he's in Prey.
Quote from: SuperiorIronman on Nov 20, 2021, 02:29:02 PM
If I had to deal with another retcon, fine. It's in service to the films not the other way around even if the films tend to adapt stuff from the extended lore.
That all being said you could still have 1718 kind of work with a name change or they just happened to have the same name given Hunting Grounds does have a flintlock trophy. So unlike the situation with Weyland you could have both still work. More than one Predator has a flintlock trophy and while it might not be Greyback anymore, Golden Angel could be its own character now having encountered his own Adolini. People can have the same name, it's just not the same Adolini as the one Greyback encounters. Alternatively for any reprint they could change the name to fit in whatever canon they go for.
We could easily have Adolini the pirate, and Adolini whatever he is if he's in Prey.
Introducing a different flintlock trophy into the Predator film franchise and it not being
THE flintlock, is not a good idea in my opinion... and would cause more unnecessary general confusion than I'm willing to endure.
I always thought 1718 was a super disposable one shot and am genuinely surprised to see people worried about it.
Quote from: SiL on Nov 20, 2021, 08:48:52 PM
I always thought 1718 was a super disposable one shot and am genuinely surprised to see people worried about it.
I'm surprised that some people think the opposite. Its a short but very well done story that doesn't overstay its welcome and its a nice mini background story to Greyback's possession of the pistol. That alone is why so many people love it. Plus, seeing how retconning is done these days, I don't trust the producers to do it correctly and perhaps ruin this too. Just keep some things left alone, not everything like Greyback or the 1718 story has to be shoehorned in. That path rarely works on any media ever.
Most people don't even know it exists. I also don't think ignoring comics really counts as retconning. The movies have never been beholden to the expanded media.
I like 1718, but the movies were never going to uphold the expanded canon if they have a different story to tell. 90% of the audience probably don't even know it exists.
Quote from: SiL on Nov 20, 2021, 09:40:01 PM
Most people don't even know it exists. I also don't think ignoring comics really counts as retconning. The movies have never been beholden to the expanded media.
Predator fans 100% know it exists, rarely have I seen forums not discuss this not once and not to mention all those views on the various video essays on it. General audience don't know but its not even a factor as its a neutral variable that can work in favor for the Predator fans. Alas, even with this particular expanded media was due to closely following what the brothers' mentioned for the pistol's origin in the behind the scenes of P2, it is still expanded media. It just factors down to if the film's take on the pistol is worse then the comic's. When expanded media is better than the films, then you know you f**ked up badly. I just hope they don't f**k up on this part at all.
EU's often better sadly.
EU is often a God damn dumpster fire and all the better for it.
Predator: Invaders From the Fourth Dimension and Aliens: Earth Angel are bits of EU that on paper are absolute dumpster fires but via execution are all the better for it.
Quote from: BlueMarsalis79 on Nov 23, 2021, 03:06:59 AM
EU's often better sadly.
Well, I hope that doesn't turn out to be the case this time around, if the flintlock rumor/assumptions in "Prey" turn out to be true.
Things are pretty quiet, aren't they
Sure is. The nature of a streaming release I think. Often promotion doesn't start until a couple months before release.
Is it really going to be released this summer or was that just a rumor?
Many streaming films don't advertise until a few weeks ahead these days. Long advertising campaigns are expensive and the high volume of content output means people have fairly short attention spans when it comes to what's coming out when.
I'd bet we might not see anything until as close as 8 weeks from release. Could be more, but even theatrical films are using short pre-release ad periods these days
Quote from: SiL on Jan 09, 2022, 03:00:30 AM
even theatrical films are using short pre-release ad periods these days
Except The Batman, I guess :D
Indeed :D
Quote from: Mr.Turok on Jan 08, 2022, 11:39:29 PM
Is it really going to be released this summer or was that just a rumor?
"Summer" was part of the announcement on Disney+ Day.
a tiny teaser trailer would be neat at least...
Quote from: skhellter on Jan 09, 2022, 01:22:59 PM
a tiny teaser trailer would be neat at least...
Even a still at this point!
Yeah, still of yet another bigger badder Predator 'cause that's exactly what next Predator movie needs
(https://c.tenor.com/MHTHKmgMNEUAAAAC/michael-fassbender-shh.gif)
Quote from: Kradan on Jan 10, 2022, 03:59:12 PM
Yeah, still of yet another bigger badder Predator 'cause that's exactly what next Predator movie needs
Is that sarcasm?
What do you think ?
To be fair to David, considering you are a fan of The Predator (said with no judgment), that can make it hard to tell.
Quote from: Kradan on Jan 11, 2022, 05:47:53 PM
What do you think ?
I am not a big fan of 4 meters long Predators.
/s
To be precise, it's 11 feet tall, so about 3,35 meters ;)
Upgrade Predator from The Predator is only 3.35 meters tall? I thought he is twice as tall as Fugitive.
This is official (not fan made):
(https://i.ibb.co/KKpM8Hg/IMG-20220112-094459.jpg)
Quote from: Voodoo Magic on Jan 10, 2022, 03:11:54 PM
Quote from: skhellter on Jan 09, 2022, 01:22:59 PM
a tiny teaser trailer would be neat at least...
Even a still at this point!
I'm fine with the teaser poster that was released. ;)
Quote from: Voodoo Magic on Jan 12, 2022, 02:45:53 PM
This is official (not fan made):
(https://i.ibb.co/KKpM8Hg/IMG-20220112-094459.jpg)
Still cant believe it.
But maybe it is true. Just saw 2,72 metres tall man with his probably mother and he looks kind of same as Upgrade with Fugitive.
Here is the link
https://www.cas.sk/clanok/702507/najvyssi-muz-sveta-vyrastol-na-272-cm-vyska-mu-sposobovala-kazdodenne-utrpenie//
If only 20th Century Studios would have used this as marketing for Prey.
https://twitter.com/DannyTRS/status/1485661990135631873
Could this be a hint on Bear MCCreary working on Prey ? Also he already worked with Trachtenberg on 10 Cloverfield Lane (loved that score) so why not.
Predator vs Norse gods as the movie takes place in one unbroken take confirmed.
So perhaps Skulls mirrors Kratos and his son Atreus in "God of War", where the father teaches his son to hunt, in a quest to honor his mother's dying wish to spread her ashes on the highest mountain.
(https://respawnfirst.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/12/1542626908_619314_1542627085_noticia_normal-scaled.jpg)
But who's teaching Amber to hunt? To watch her? To teach her? Could it be a Predator?
(https://static1.moviewebimages.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/article/JDf3l72DNPaakN1fh87sQFLrrqIgM5.jpg)
Probably she accomplishes the one thing no one else has been accomplished among the male hunters, and when she does, it finally pushes her tribe to embrace her as a hunter.
New Predator Film "Prey" influenced by God of War Video Game
https://www.avpgalaxy.net/2022/01/25/new-predator-film-prey-influenced-by-god-of-war-video-game/
I've thought for a while that the protagonist and the predator aren't going to be fighting each other much in this movie, and this just makes that more likely IMO.
Def think they are working together
I'm so tired of friendly Predator alliances. I really hope that's not the case.
Quote from: Predalien39 on Jan 26, 2022, 08:16:28 AM
I'm so tired of friendly Predator alliances. I really hope that's not the case.
Me too.
The thing is that the Predator could be training the protagonist to be a hunter which might not be out of the question for them. We have seen them outfit Humans in the comics and tie-in material for Predators. Even Noland was able to use Predator equipment and the Predator killer can be used by Humans even if it's seemingly meant to be used by a Predator. There definitely is some overlap to who can use the technology and skills is what I'm getting at. And given the talk about the Predator 2 pistol it might be that the Predator perceives our hero as a hunting dog. Basically a tool to get what it wants which could lead to the final battle. Less of a fight to the death and more showing her master that she is not a tool, she's as much an equal as it is (y'know, relative to a 500 pound space serial killer).
And that would line up with what we know the protagonists deal to be. She wants to be one of the bois. Nobody will let her and while she gets what she wants out of the dynamic with the Predator, she isn't his equal until she can best him which is what she wants. The Predator obviously wouldn't give two shits and a f**k about who she is so long as she's useful which means the Predator would be filling the role of both Kratos and the final boss.
While I am against a team-up, I don't think its another sled ride of friendship, it's probably more akin to the 2010 classic Predator.
While my default position sits at being against a Human & Predator team-up and these films need to be slasher movies, I must admit we have yet to see the team-up done right. Lex & Scar? Nope! Not in my eyes! "The Predator" cut scenes? Yeah, no, truly doubt those camouflaged garbed Predators would result in anything more than a mockery and comedy relief. Royce and the Crucified/Captured Predator? It might have been handled right. Grabbing Royce by the neck after being freed by him was definitely the right idea. Needed more of that. But alas, the story went a different direction.
Humans. Bears. Predators. Sasquatch. Maybe a baby bunny or two. I need to see the angle!!!
I don't think I could handle another time up right now, tbh. Maybe like you said, something similar to the Royce/Crucified dynamic, but nothing even remotely close to an actual team up. Just so weary of them trying to push that angle :(
Quote from: BigDaddyJohn on Jan 24, 2022, 07:23:43 PM
Could this be a hint on Bear MCCreary working on Prey ? Also he already worked with Trachtenberg on 10 Cloverfield Lane (loved that score) so why not.
Fingers crossed
So long as the predator doesn't look like a rubber-made fakery in the bakery.
So the Predator will be a father figure to Naru in some ways? Or will it be the Bear ;D
Quote from: acrediblesource on Jan 26, 2022, 08:08:07 PM
So long as the predator doesn't look like a rubber-made fakery in the bakery.
Fakery in the bakery? Never heard that before. :laugh:
Me neither, that was a good one :D I'm filing it away.
Quote from: Wysps on Jan 27, 2022, 02:49:22 PM
Me neither, that was a good one :D I'm filing it away.
My problem is too many filed! :laugh:
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I think people are missing a key hint here, both stories include the theme of family.
Kratos and Atreus family struggle of father and son trying to connect to each other while clearly showing they care about each other. In Prey, we are told that Naru and her brother's family struggle of trying to reconnect from a broken connection as her brother believes he no longer needs her and tries to go on his own way. Both stories touch on the theme of family issues creating tension due to each character's own struggles and reasons.
I don't see the Predator having any hand of teaching of anything, but rather like how Balder kept hunting Kratos and Atreus throughout the story, the Predator might do the same for Naru and her brother.
Shhh, that sounds reasonable and doesn't fit people wildly speculating increasingly unlikely scenarios.
Hey, isn't that what speculating is for though ?
Quote from: Kradan on Jan 28, 2022, 09:15:59 AM
Hey, isn't that what speculating is for though ?
Of course! But some need to feel superior!
Quote from: Mr.Turok on Jan 28, 2022, 06:05:29 AM
I think people are missing a key hint here, both stories include the theme of family.
Kratos and Atreus family struggle of father and son trying to connect to each other while clearly showing they care about each other. In Prey, we are told that Naru and her brother's family struggle of trying to reconnect from a broken connection as her brother believes he no longer needs her and tries to go on his own way. Both stories touch on the theme of family issues creating tension due to each character's own struggles and reasons.
I don't see the Predator having any hand of teaching of anything, but rather like how Balder kept hunting Kratos and Atreus throughout the story, the Predator might do the same for Naru and her brother.
Could be! Where did you get this though:
QuoteIn Prey, we are told that Naru and her brother's family struggle of trying to reconnect from a broken connection as her brother believes he no longer needs her and tries to go on his own way.
Did you get this from the end of the "Taabe" Casting Call?
TAABE Male; 17 years old (seeking 18 to play younger); Comanche. Taabe's name means "Sun", like the star in the sky – which lets you know the tribe's expectations for him – he is being groomed to be a Chief one day. Having relied on the council of his older sister, Kee, his "Patsi" for his entire life. Taabe has just had a taste of success in one of his first big hunts. As he is coming of age and fresh off of his first triumph, he feels that he's now a leader/in charge and no longer needs Kee – which causes the first rift in their very close relationship.If so, it's hard to tell if that piece of casting call character background is the theme, crux or heart of Prey versus a minor plot point. Perhaps. It would be very cool if it is. Guess we'll see!
Here's the production synopsis again:
"
The story will follow Kee, a Comanche woman who goes against gender norms and traditions to become a warrior. Many years ago – in a time before any Europeans had ever encroached on their lands – the Comanche people had a well defined society and gender norms. Kee is very close to her younger brother, Taabe, who is being groomed as a leader. As capable as any young man in the tribe, Kee has always been a teacher and source of inspiration for Taabe. In the Comanche way – she is Patsi – the elder sister that has helped to shape him. Kee is a truth teller and has insight that others do not. A tomboy, she wants to prove herself in the masculine world of the Comanche. When danger threatens them all – Kee sets out to prove that she is as capable as any young warriorOr course, the God Of War influence could be as simple as how it's filmed, or Kratos and the style in which the Predator fights is similar. I'm thinking once the trailer drops we'll know a lot. I wish that wasn't the case. I'd certainly love a minimal trailer, but alas we don't see many of those these days.
We need to know how the Bear/The Revenant factors in here exactly. I bet if we know that, things will start falling into place I think!
#TEAMSASQUATCH
Quote from: Kradan on Jan 28, 2022, 09:15:59 AM
Hey, isn't that what speculating is for though ?
Sure, but it also pays to read the room and understand that sometimes people will start to formulate opinions when the speculation is allowed to spiral out of control. They start hating the idea of the film for something that's not confirmed - or they get their hopes up over nothing. Happens all the time.
The protagonist has trouble getting accepted as a hunter, Predator pretends to be dead, she impresses everyone, Predator jumps up and kills everyone but her.
My speculation.
Quote from: Voodoo Magic on Jan 28, 2022, 12:12:06 PM
Quote from: Kradan on Jan 28, 2022, 09:15:59 AM
Hey, isn't that what speculating is for though ?
Of course! But some need to feel superior!
I could be misreading this but just to put this down into the dirt anyway, please don't get like this. I bring some grounded speculation based on what we have so far from previous sources and you gotta mald about it. Yes I used the casting call info and synopsis from before because at least that is some form of grounded evidence that I can use to draw conclusions from. I don't know how anyone else is getting the idea of the Predator training Naru or anything like it as none of the previous leaks hinted to this and the God of War tweek is very vague about its influence on the film, I'm going with the most likely scenario
God of War is one continuous take.
Quote from: Mr.Turok on Jan 28, 2022, 07:00:43 PM
Quote from: Voodoo Magic on Jan 28, 2022, 12:12:06 PM
Quote from: Kradan on Jan 28, 2022, 09:15:59 AM
Hey, isn't that what speculating is for though ?
Of course! But some need to feel superior!
I could be misreading this but just to put this down into the dirt anyway, please don't get like this.
Don't worry, I believe that lovely passive aggressive comment was aimed at me.
I mean, he still shouldn't get like this, but it wasn't something you said.
Quote from: Stitch on Jan 28, 2022, 08:03:03 PM
God of War is one continuous take.
I thought GoW was about an Engineer hacking monsters with giant blades
Quote from: SiL on Jan 28, 2022, 08:11:01 PM
Quote from: Mr.Turok on Jan 28, 2022, 07:00:43 PM
Quote from: Voodoo Magic on Jan 28, 2022, 12:12:06 PM
Quote from: Kradan on Jan 28, 2022, 09:15:59 AM
Hey, isn't that what speculating is for though ?
Of course! But some need to feel superior!
I could be misreading this but just to put this down into the dirt anyway, please don't get like this.
Don't worry, I believe that lovely passive aggressive comment was aimed at me.
I mean, he still shouldn't get like this, but it wasn't something you said.
Well its one thing if its passed to me, but yeah its another just not to be like this in general. People can speculate all they want but there is always going to be speculations people will scratch their heads at and address this. Its why we're talking about it right now.
Quote from: Kradan on Jan 28, 2022, 08:43:17 PM
Quote from: Stitch on Jan 28, 2022, 08:03:03 PM
God of War is one continuous take.
I thought GoW was about an Engineer hacking monsters with giant blades
I mean....you're not even wrong :D Ahhhh I miss Dead Space, shame a fourth will never come to pass.
At least there's the remake to look forward to.
Quote from: Mr.Turok on Jan 28, 2022, 07:00:43 PM
Quote from: Voodoo Magic on Jan 28, 2022, 12:12:06 PM
Quote from: Kradan on Jan 28, 2022, 09:15:59 AM
Hey, isn't that what speculating is for though ?
Of course! But some need to feel superior!
I could be misreading this but just to put this down into the dirt anyway, please don't get like this. I bring some grounded speculation based on what we have so far from previous sources and you gotta mald about it. Yes I used the casting call info and synopsis from before because at least that is some form of grounded evidence that I can use to draw conclusions from. I don't know how anyone else is getting the idea of the Predator training Naru or anything like it as none of the previous leaks hinted to this and the God of War tweek is very vague about its influence on the film, I'm going with the most likely scenario
The need to feel superior comment was towards the pompous quote Kradan was responding to:
Quote from: SiL on Jan 28, 2022, 06:15:25 AM
Shhh, that sounds reasonable and doesn't fit people wildly speculating increasingly unlikely scenarios.
If you read my reply to YOU, I said things like "
Guess we'll see!" and "
Perhaps. It would be very cool if it is." And a genuine trying to understand where you assessed the film's theme.
Sorry for the confusion!
That would be fantastic if this has the lost tribe from predator 2
Quote from: Enjoy on Feb 04, 2022, 08:23:04 PM
That would be fantastic if this has the lost tribe from predator 2
Right? Or at least the Elder Grayback!
Although I believe the production synopsis said this took place before Europeans encroached their land, we have heard that flintlock backstory will be in Prey rumor from someone who snuck some on-set photos. And we briefly saw an actor listed under "Prey" on IMDB credited as a French Trapper, before it was pulled. We'll see!
I really hope you guys are prepared for the final nail in the coffin of the Predator franchise. They're not even trying to hide the fact that this is a feminist/women can out-do men piece of crap! That's all Hollywood cares about. Dark Fate did wonders for the Terminator franchise (insert sarcasm), didn't it? This will undoubtedly be the worst Predator film of the franchise, and I honestly hope they don't make anymore! If you want a real Predator movie, then stick with the original two, and pretend the others don't exist. I'm not saying "Predators" was bad. On the contrary, I thought it was better than "The Predator", but the way in which Adrien Brody killed the berserker Predator wasn't believable in the slightest, and, if anything, it was simply cartoonish. I hate to be a downer, but you should seriously consider lowering your expectations, because you're just setting yourselves up for disappointment. Long live Dutch Schaefar!
Quote from: Junior on Feb 05, 2022, 05:17:10 PM
I really hope you guys are prepared for the final nail in the coffin of the Predator franchise. They're not even trying to hide the fact that this is a feminist/women can out-do men piece of crap! That's all Hollywood cares about. Dark Fate did wonders for the Terminator franchise (insert sarcasm), didn't it? This will undoubtedly be the worst Predator film of the franchise, and I honestly hope they don't make anymore! If you want a real Predator movie, then stick with the original two, and pretend the others don't exist. I'm not saying "Predators" was bad. On the contrary, I thought it was better than "The Predator", but the way in which Adrien Brody killed the berserker Predator wasn't believable in the slightest, and, if anything, it was simply cartoonish. I hate to be a downer, but you should seriously consider lowering your expectations, because you're just setting yourselves up for disappointment. Long live Dutch Schaefar!
In my opinion, once ADI/KNB designed the preds,and continued to do so after AVP, this fact alone was the final nail in the coffin of the franchise,to me a good movie with a wrongly designed predator is worthless, not that both AVPs, The Predator and Predators were any good.They all had their moments (the AVP flashback), or small improvements (Wolf in AVPR), but they were all subpar eventually. I'm starving since Predator 2, but I'm remaining uncompromising.I wish the fanbase was more demanding, not just paying then complaining but complaining first, it's worth a try.
About the feminist trend, I'm not a fan of it, I don't like propaganda, but I will say that I'm not against the strong female type if it is handled correctly , Vasquez is a yes, Ghostbusters (2016) or Terminator 6 is a no, and a myriad of of netflix recent crap.
As of today, there is no way to be sure about how it will handled in Prey, but I understand your mistrust.You'll have to wait until June I guess.
A handful of fans are hopping to see the predator Elder as a younger version of itself in Prey, or maybe for just a cameo, as the story is set in
1716 (Dan Trachtenberg started his work on Prey aka Skulls in 2016, and the story is set 300 years prior).
It would be such a nice touch. There is still some hope.
Oh gaaaaawd, kill me someone, please
I don't think there's any hope, and I think you will be disappointed. But I completely agree with everything else you said in your reply.
I think it'll be a fun movie, not an instant classic but not total shit either.
But the mandibles will look poos.
Quote from: Junior on Feb 05, 2022, 05:17:10 PM
Dark Fate did wonders for the Terminator franchise (insert sarcasm), didn't it?
It's the only watchable film in the franchise post-
Terminator 2.
Quote from: Junior on Feb 05, 2022, 05:17:10 PM
I really hope you guys are prepared for the final nail in the coffin of the Predator franchise. They're not even trying to hide the fact that this is a feminist/women can out-do men piece of crap! That's all Hollywood cares about. Dark Fate did wonders for the Terminator franchise (insert sarcasm), didn't it? This will undoubtedly be the worst Predator film of the franchise, and I honestly hope they don't make anymore! If you want a real Predator movie, then stick with the original two, and pretend the others don't exist. I'm not saying "Predators" was bad. On the contrary, I thought it was better than "The Predator", but the way in which Adrien Brody killed the berserker Predator wasn't believable in the slightest, and, if anything, it was simply cartoonish. I hate to be a downer, but you should seriously consider lowering your expectations, because you're just setting yourselves up for disappointment. Long live Dutch Schaefar!
I.. Can't even... Wow.
This forum was so nice back when there was no Predator movie with a woman lead announced, I miss that time, it really did bring out the worst from some people, I'll just stop coming eventually cause each time I do It's worst than the previous one, more and more awfull and stupid "fragile masculinist" stuff. Embarassing.
Quote from: Spartansniper619 on Feb 07, 2022, 07:37:08 AM
I.. Can't even... Wow.
This forum was so nice back when there was no Predator movie with a woman lead announced, I miss that time, it really did bring out the worst from some people, I'll just stop coming eventually cause each time I do It's worst than the previous one, more and more awfull and stupid "fragile masculinist" stuff. Embarassing.
If you ignore anything posted by a guest account, it's still much like it always was.
After all we know so far do you think we will see sasquatch in the movie?
Quote from: [cancerblack] on Feb 06, 2022, 05:53:54 PM
I think it'll be a fun movie, not an instant classic but not total shit either.
I'll take that!
QuoteBut the mandibles will look poos.
I'm used to taking that!
Quote from: Nightmare Asylum on Feb 06, 2022, 08:05:12 PM
Quote from: Junior on Feb 05, 2022, 05:17:10 PM
Dark Fate did wonders for the Terminator franchise (insert sarcasm), didn't it?
It's the only watchable film in the franchise post-Terminator 2.
When I'm drunk I find it extremely watchable.
Quote from: David on Feb 07, 2022, 02:41:37 PM
After all we know so far do you think we will see sasquatch in the movie?
No...
but the
dream is not over yet!!!
(https://www.illinoisworkerscomplaw.com/files/2017/06/Belushi.jpg)
I watched Dark Fate once at the cinema and once at home. Don't have any desire to re-watch it. Everybody looks kinda miserable and tired in that movie and definetly not in a good way. Whole killing off John Connor, bringing back elderly Sarah Connor, replacing Skynet with another Skynet and John Connor with what's-her-face also have not sat well with me over time. Genesis at least had bonkers plot, some funny moments and I liked guy who played evil robot John Connor hamming it up
Also it royally sucks that's the movie I chose to drag my dad into cinema to watch together on my b-day and I'm gonna forever hold that against the movie :-\
I am still unsure about the Sasquatch thing. In one way, it sounds awesome as hell, how can I refuse such a battle? On the other hand, wouldn't this also open the door to other mythical and supernatural ideas like vampires or werewolves being a thing for the Predator canon since we got beings of myth existing on Earth now? Would that be a good or bad step to take?
Personally, I like the idea of a 30 Days of Night vampires fighting Predators in a comic crossover of sorts, but in an actual film canon? Errrr I don't know about that one chief, feels like it can go bad too easily.
I'd rather keep it to space monsters. I'm more than happy to see a Predator fight a bear.
Or alligator
Quote from: SiL on Feb 08, 2022, 06:57:32 AM
I'd rather keep it to space monsters. I'm more than happy to see a Predator fight a bear.
Is it confirmed that Predator is gonna fight a bear?
I can just imagine when trailer finally drops and all the people in the comments will be like "WTF, where's the sasquatch ? ". And couple of days later confused executives will announce that movie wil be postponed for several months to add 10 minutes worth of Predator vs shitty CGI sasquatch scenes
Quote from: Mr.Turok on Feb 08, 2022, 06:51:58 AM
I am still unsure about the Sasquatch thing. In one way, it sounds awesome as hell, how can I refuse such a battle? On the other hand, wouldn't this also open the door to other mythical and supernatural ideas like vampires or werewolves being a thing for the Predator canon since we got beings of myth existing on Earth now? Would that be a good or bad step to take?
Personally, I like the idea of a 30 Days of Night vampires fighting Predators in a comic crossover of sorts, but in an actual film canon? Errrr I don't know about that one chief, feels like it can go bad too easily.
I believe you can have a Bigfoot without inviting mummies, the undead, zombies, werewolves and the like into Predator continuity. The Sasquatch is more reality based than those other creatures, when considering the portion of the world that still believe right now that they exist or did exist, and there has documented encounters between Native Americans and these creatures. It's like believing in UFOs, or the Loch Ness monster. It never gets eyerolls to the degree of believing in Dracula or the Wolfman.
May 22, 2022, 09:30:43 AMQuote from: Kradan on Feb 08, 2022, 08:06:32 AM
Or alligator
That would be cool!
May 22, 2022, 09:30:37 AMQuote from: David on Feb 08, 2022, 04:07:36 PM
Quote from: SiL on Feb 08, 2022, 06:57:32 AM
I'd rather keep it to space monsters. I'm more than happy to see a Predator fight a bear.
Is it confirmed that Predator is gonna fight a bear?
No. It's just confirmed that a large bear costume was used on set, and it's been declared by a producer that "Prey" will be more similar to "The Revenant" than any other Predator movie that preceeded it.
You're the predator right up until you're prey. The bear is hungry. 🐻🍗🍖🥩 *Nom Nom Nom*
Quote from: David on Feb 08, 2022, 04:07:36 PM
Quote from: SiL on Feb 08, 2022, 06:57:32 AM
I'd rather keep it to space monsters. I'm more than happy to see a Predator fight a bear.
Is it confirmed that Predator is gonna fight a bear?
No, I'd just be happy for that to happen.
Quote from: Immortan Jonesy on Feb 08, 2022, 08:18:39 PM
You're the predator right up until you're prey. The bear is hungry. 🐻🍗🍖🥩 *Nom Nom Nom*
A little long for a tagline but I like it!
If we do get a Predator vs Grizzly fight, I hope it's with a dominant boar and not a sow protecting her cubs.
Unless, of course, the Predator adopts the two cubs, loves them, and teaches them how to hunt. I'm sure we'll eventually get a Disney Animation from it. :P
Quote from: Master Chief on Feb 09, 2022, 05:24:05 PM
Unless, of course, the Predator adopts the two cubs, loves them, and teaches them how to hunt. I'm sure we'll eventually get a Disney Animation from it. :P
I'd laugh this off if I didn't get a Terminator recently with a wife, a stepson, a drapery business, and one that changes diapers efficiently without complaints.
Is James Cameron involved with new Predator film ?
Quote from: Voodoo Magic on Feb 08, 2022, 07:51:18 PM
I believe you can have a Bigfoot without inviting mummies, the undead, zombies, werewolves and the like into Predator continuity. The Sasquatch is more reality based than those other creatures, when considering the portion of the world that still believe right now that they exist or did exist, and there has documented encounters between Native Americans and these creatures. It's like believing in UFOs, or the Loch Ness monster. It never gets eyerolls to the degree of believing in Dracula or the Wolfman.
I mean, personally, I agree, as at least not only there are account of various tribes of Sasquatch and not too long ago there was a animal that was like it called gigantopithecus blacki. As for the mainstream audience though, I am not sure they are even aware of the accounts but rather they see it through the lens of cryptozoology and myth like any other tall tale. Yeah, I don't even know the current thoughts of the mainstream on the status of Bigfoot so its all a guess at how they will digest this if there really is a Sasquatch angle on all of this.
Quote from: Mr.Turok on Feb 10, 2022, 04:14:43 PM
Quote from: Voodoo Magic on Feb 08, 2022, 07:51:18 PM
I believe you can have a Bigfoot without inviting mummies, the undead, zombies, werewolves and the like into Predator continuity. The Sasquatch is more reality based than those other creatures, when considering the portion of the world that still believe right now that they exist or did exist, and there has documented encounters between Native Americans and these creatures. It's like believing in UFOs, or the Loch Ness monster. It never gets eyerolls to the degree of believing in Dracula or the Wolfman.
I mean, personally, I agree, as at least not only there are account of various tribes of Sasquatch and not too long ago there was a animal that was like it called gigantopithecus blacki.
Interesting! Well that would certainly fit the build.
(https://img.ifunny.co/images/d55c962a8d999ff4b5caf0e6c043e10470ab18f40c63d08173ef7972cbf89b10_1.jpg)
QuoteAs for the mainstream audience though, I am not sure they are even aware of the accounts but rather they see it through the lens of cryptozoology and myth like any other tall tale. Yeah, I don't even know the current thoughts of the mainstream on the status of Bigfoot so its all a guess at how they will digest this if there really is a Sasquatch angle on all of this.
Yeah, even Bigfoot in general. I have no idea how well known it is anymore with younger audiences. Back in the day, it was extremely well know. In movies like Harry and the Hendersons, on live-action TV fighting The Incredible Hulk and The Six Million Dollar Man. But young audiences now? Who knows.
There seems to be Sasquatch museums all over the U.S., but an indicator of how mainstream it is anymore... good question.
(https://www.gannett-cdn.com/media/2019/07/09/USATODAY/usatsports/247WallSt.com-247WS-559029-bigfoot-museum.jpg)
(https://blueridgemountainstravelguide.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/03/Exterior-of-Expedition-Bigfoot-Museum-in-North-Georgia-e1583856041177.jpg)
(https://ca-times.brightspotcdn.com/dims4/default/bbc7fe8/2147483647/strip/true/crop/2304x1728+0+0/resize/1486x1115!/quality/90/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fcalifornia-times-brightspot.s3.amazonaws.com%2F92%2Fec%2Fb854e43e4dd5a7006410257543e8%2Fmichaelrugg.jpg)
Big Foot is still pretty well known but the whole thing has become a bit more of a joke than when I was a kid.
It's a complete joke to me. Born in 1997 if that makes any difference.
Bigfoot/Sasquatch is a joke to me BECAUSE:
https://youtu.be/xzf09VKHlkc (https://youtu.be/xzf09VKHlkc)
In the 80's/90's it was a little easier to believe in cryptozoology, kind of like there was an air of mystery about it still.
Technology has really kinda pulled the curtain back on that kinda stuff. Or maybe when I was a kid everything felt more plausible, so could just be me.
I've heard of some Big Foot Burgers before
(https://i.ibb.co/WFYtrP6/5815.jpg)
https://youtu.be/c6fCFUNl1XY
Big hairy man hardly tickles the part of me that likes cryptids.
Quote from: Immortan Jonesy on Feb 13, 2022, 07:27:22 PM
I've heard of some Big Foot Burgers before
(https://i.ibb.co/WFYtrP6/5815.jpg)
https://youtu.be/c6fCFUNl1XY
Ok, I gotta ask: is that burger made FOR or FROM Bigfoot ?
And they even put a pickle on top ! Aaaaaaw, so cute :)
It's just tourism. Man and Bigfoot have lived in perfect harmony for eons. However, I reckon a single crabator is enough to screw that.
Quote from: BlueMarsalis79 on Feb 13, 2022, 07:28:56 PM
Big hairy man hardly tickles the part of me that likes cryptids.
This. It's not even in the top 5 north american cryptids/mythic creatures.
The chupacabra, on the other hand...
Predator vs Tuunbaq pls.
Chupacabra vs. Predator it's essentially alien vs. predator, just without
'The Alien'. Quote from: KiramidHead on Feb 13, 2022, 10:42:00 PM
Predator vs Tuunbaq pls.
Perhaps a Comanche shaman performed a ritual to resurrect the owner of a flintlock pistol who was hunted by a Predator, taking the shape of a bear. 🐻😱
(https://i.ibb.co/z6DFwF7/20200904-175241.jpg)
Quote from: Nightmare Asylum on Feb 13, 2022, 10:31:52 PM
The chupacabra, on the other hand...
I'm sorry, but that name alone makes me laugh. I won't be able to take it seriously
Speaking of that :laugh:
(https://i.ibb.co/9ymvHmq/Screenshot-20220213-201622.jpg)
(https://i.ibb.co/wpcfTGg/Screenshot-20220213-200952.jpg)
▶The Sexy Sci-Fi Origins Of The Chupacabra Legend
(https://melmagazine.com/en-us/story/what-is-chupacabra-species-movie)
Quote from: KiramidHead on Feb 13, 2022, 10:42:00 PM
Predator vs Tuunbaq pls.
Except Tuunbaq was invented for the book, not based on alleged reality. I know predator is fictional, but we have to draw the line for suspension of disbelief somewhere.
Quote from: Stitch on Feb 14, 2022, 04:52:29 AM
Quote from: KiramidHead on Feb 13, 2022, 10:42:00 PM
Predator vs Tuunbaq pls.
Except Tuunbaq was invented for the book, not based on alleged reality.
You think I don't know that?
Tuunbaq's terrifying.
Quote from: KiramidHead on Feb 14, 2022, 04:53:48 AM
Quote from: Stitch on Feb 14, 2022, 04:52:29 AM
Quote from: KiramidHead on Feb 13, 2022, 10:42:00 PM
Predator vs Tuunbaq pls.
Except Tuunbaq was invented for the book, not based on alleged reality.
You think I don't know that?
Not saying you did or didn't, but Disney would need a license to use it, because it would effectively be a crossover.
I don't think he meant it in earnest. Just that it's actually scary unlike the Bigfoot.
Yeah it definitely wasn't in earnest. And I don't see a crusty old guy like Simmons licensing it out to a fricking Predator movie. :laugh:
How about the monsters of the Cthulhu Mythos ??? Are H.P. Lovecraft's writings in the public domain?
Yes indeed they are.
Then in that case, I hope that after
Prey, they make a movie where the Predator starts a hunting season on Earth, when mankind was fighting eldritch monstrosities in the middle ages.
(https://i.ibb.co/S5xYNch/robert-altbauer-abscheulich-ding.jpg)
(https://i.ibb.co/Y7qnwj9/d03dfbe43127d70f88017c6e647c310c-box-covers-cthulhu.jpg)
(https://i.ibb.co/sqRTHTC/robert-altbauer-damon-aus-der-tiefe.jpg)
Quote from: Immortan Jonesy on Feb 13, 2022, 11:01:14 PM
it's essentially alien vs. predator, just without 'The Alien'.
Ah, Touché.
Should Prey do well I'd be all for exploring different eras with Predator. Like off the top of my head, Thor actually is a Predator or maybe the stories about them are exaggerations of survivors. Like perhaps Thor is using Predator equipment and realms are the various preserves he's taken to. I could easily see Odin turning out to be some Elder outfitting his favorite gladiator.
Quote from: Immortan Jonesy on Feb 14, 2022, 10:50:13 PM
Then in that case, I hope that after Prey, they make a movie where the Predator starts a hunting season on Earth, when mankind was fighting eldritch monstrosities in the middle ages.
(https://i.ibb.co/S5xYNch/robert-altbauer-abscheulich-ding.jpg)
(https://i.ibb.co/Y7qnwj9/d03dfbe43127d70f88017c6e647c310c-box-covers-cthulhu.jpg)
(https://i.ibb.co/sqRTHTC/robert-altbauer-damon-aus-der-tiefe.jpg)
Well if this sword from Hunting Grounds is any indicator of where this Predator went hunting, it could have fought Elderitch monstrosities before during the Hyborian Age :D
(https://forum.predator.illfonic.com/uploads/default/optimized/3X/d/0/d0f8738cf21819d3b59bbd15ab429962daba921b_2_1035x582.jpeg)
No lie, the sword got me into reading Conan comics and I was just left wondering how did I miss this fine world. Its a perfect place of a Predator crossover
Quote from: Mr.Turok on Feb 15, 2022, 05:14:10 PM
Quote from: Immortan Jonesy on Feb 14, 2022, 10:50:13 PM
Then in that case, I hope that after Prey, they make a movie where the Predator starts a hunting season on Earth, when mankind was fighting eldritch monstrosities in the middle ages.
(https://i.ibb.co/S5xYNch/robert-altbauer-abscheulich-ding.jpg)
(https://i.ibb.co/Y7qnwj9/d03dfbe43127d70f88017c6e647c310c-box-covers-cthulhu.jpg)
(https://i.ibb.co/sqRTHTC/robert-altbauer-damon-aus-der-tiefe.jpg)
Well if this sword from Hunting Grounds is any indicator of where this Predator went hunting, it could have fought Elderitch monstrosities before during the Hyborian Age :D
(https://forum.predator.illfonic.com/uploads/default/optimized/3X/d/0/d0f8738cf21819d3b59bbd15ab429962daba921b_2_1035x582.jpeg)
No lie, the sword got me into reading Conan comics and I was just left wondering how did I miss this fine world. Its a perfect place of a Predator crossover
The black & white, magazine sized, Savage Sword of Conan was really something special back in the day.
;D
(https://i.ibb.co/Cmqvp1D/65dkp8.jpg)
Quote from: SuperiorIronman on Feb 14, 2022, 11:38:09 PM
Should Prey do well I'd be all for exploring different eras with Predator. Like off the top of my head, Thor actually is a Predator or maybe the stories about them are exaggerations of survivors. Like perhaps Thor is using Predator equipment and realms are the various preserves he's taken to. I could easily see Odin turning out to be some Elder outfitting his favorite gladiator.
Aye I can definitely imagine the Predator's passage on Earth inspiring ancient mythologies involving humans, gods, and monsters. It's very ancient aliens, I know, but as some often say everything is in the execution... and in the success of
Prey as well. :laugh:
Not far behind is heroic literature reimagined as an anachronistic sci-fi tale, where a monster hunter might have been a Predator, immortalized as a legendary hero through Legend, such as Beowulf for example.
(https://i.ibb.co/Wsmfs4r/Beowulf.jpg)
I'm also curious about something set in the future as well, kinda like..
(https://i.ibb.co/Wv1h4kc/25310556-UY991-SS991.jpg)
Just randomly saw this on Facebook from the page CineMarvellous:
(https://www.linkpicture.com/q/F56534BF-5CEC-4DAA-A770-C498F3CD293F.jpeg)
Is this an official poster or just fan made?
I would guess fan-made
https://twitter.com/nunosarnadas/status/1487074054762868737?
Fan poster.
^Thanks for sharing that post Corporal Hicks! Appreciate the help to confirm.
I was trying to remember if that fan poster already popped up online awhile back?...Just maybe looked new to me when I saw it today.
Quote from: pmaz11 on Feb 16, 2022, 05:04:07 PM
^Thanks for sharing that post Corporal Hicks! Appreciate the help to confirm.
I was trying to remember if that fan poster already popped up online awhile back?...Just maybe looked new to me when I saw it today.
I'm pretty sure it was first posted on here actually by whoever created it
I mean the tweet also said its a Concept Teaser Poster and not Official Poster, so....
From the IG story of
Visual Effects by
Lara Bannister ... VFX Data Wrangler / VFX Production Coordinator
Pred-vision case 1......Pred-vision case 2......Bigfoot confirmed?!?!
That suggests that the predator's vision is done with an actual camera setup rather than just some CG filter. I think possibly everything after P2 was a computer effect rather than in-camera, right?
I would think so. AvP went for red-orange palette, Predators and The Predator went back to the blue one, but seemingly forgot to add green
Ironically, as bad as Requiem was, it arguably got the closesr to replicating first two movie heat vision look
I agree, Requiem was good in that regard. It was horrible in The Predator.
Everything after Predators was CG. AvP and AvPR used IR cameras. No film used raw IR footage, it was always heavily processed.
Quote from: ace3g on Feb 19, 2022, 03:31:38 PM
From the IG story of
Visual Effects by
Lara Bannister ... VFX Data Wrangler / VFX Production Coordinator
There could be a substancial amount of pred pov scenes, since its the predator species first hunt on earth.
A little bit like how the predator pov was used in the original, when he was observing that scorpio.
Quote from: Kradan on Feb 19, 2022, 09:04:00 PM
I would think so. AvP went for red-orange palette, Predators and The Predator went back to the blue one, but seemingly forgot to add green
Ironically, as bad as Requiem was, it arguably got the closesr to replicating first two movie heat vision look
Yeah , let's hope they kept those details and sounds effects back again in Prey.Especially the heartbeat.
Would be nice!
Quote from: Kradan on Feb 19, 2022, 09:04:00 PM
I would think so. AvP went for red-orange palette, Predators and The Predator went back to the blue one, but seemingly forgot to add green
Ironically, as bad as Requiem was, it arguably got the closesr to replicating first two movie heat vision look
Requiem's thermal vision was perfect as it's done well to honor the look of the old thermal vision of the classic films but also has an HD quality that I expect of an advanced race of hunters that would need every vital detail of their surroundings that they can get.
Quote from: [cancerblack] on Feb 13, 2022, 08:56:07 PM
Quote from: BlueMarsalis79 on Feb 13, 2022, 07:28:56 PM
Big hairy man hardly tickles the part of me that likes cryptids.
This. It's not even in the top 5 north american cryptids/mythic creatures.
Bro you don't even live in North America so please enlighten as to what the top 5 cryptids are over here. If anything Bigfoot sightings have increased with over 5000 sightings spread across all 50 states in 2020 alone. It is hands down the most well known cryptid on this continent.
That being said I highly doubt that there'll be a Sasquatch in Prey but I wouldn't mind seeing that kind of face off in the EU. Considering "If It Bleeds" had an interesting story with a rougarou (Cajun werewolf) and "Hell and Hot Water" had giant tardigrades there's precedent for these type of hunts.
The most well known and by far the most laughable.
Nobody's arguing that it's lacking notoriety.
CB means in terms of the idea being compelling.
Donald Trump is not considered a cryptid yet?
I wasn't sure but I noticed recently some of the cast (were hanging out together) and crew hinted at possible reshoots, additional filming through IG stories.
and now this, see photo in attachment.
** Jhane Myers and Amber Midthunder shared the same story as well.
Watching U.S. Marshals, the swamp scenes would be an awesome setting for a Predator movie.
I wonder if those were regularly scheduled reshoots or something more sinister.
I imagine the former, but why not wildly speculate.
Reshoots are to add scenes of Predator fighting terible looking CGI Bigfoot
I imagine they're just pick-ups.
And just to add it out there, we suspect this may have been tested recently but no details.
Quote from: ace3g on Feb 22, 2022, 01:19:27 AM
I wasn't sure but I noticed recently some of the cast (were hanging out together) and crew hinted at possible reshoots, additional filming through IG stories.
and now this, see photo in attachment.
** Jhane Myers and Amber Midthunder shared the same story as well.
Could've sworn I remember seeing this story around the original wrap date, in which a number of those social media posts were taken down. Looks like that same location from the wrap date scene.
Quote from: RidgeTop on Feb 23, 2022, 04:57:25 PM
Quote from: ace3g on Feb 22, 2022, 01:19:27 AM
I wasn't sure but I noticed recently some of the cast (were hanging out together) and crew hinted at possible reshoots, additional filming through IG stories.
and now this, see photo in attachment.
** Jhane Myers and Amber Midthunder shared the same story as well.
Could've sworn I remember seeing this story around the original wrap date, in which a number of those social media posts were taken down. Looks like that same location from the wrap date scene.
Caption over the photo is "That's a wrap #2 / 2" implying that it was a 2nd stint of filming or SFX.
Quote from: BlueMarsalis79 on Feb 21, 2022, 10:22:26 PM
CB means in terms of the idea being compelling.
Bingo. "Big Monke" is f**king lame. Sign me up for the Thunderbird or the various lake monsters.
How about Predator vs. Mothman?
(https://i.ibb.co/pZQ8x7d/7d2a8044-5ada-4a26-b5b3-8926787cd6dd6b28cbf33acdd2d1fd-3757043244-f2e5c98a2d-o.jpg)
Plot twists! - this is the true nature of Mothman..
Spoiler
(https://i.ibb.co/f0GWNjf/Predkiller.jpg)
Quote from: Immortan Jonesy on Feb 23, 2022, 11:28:56 PM
Mothman
https://youtu.be/bVVtMzPOyJQ (https://youtu.be/bVVtMzPOyJQ)
From Lara's IG story
Lara Bannister ... VFX Data Wrangler / VFX Production Coordinator
Quote from: Immortan Jonesy on Feb 23, 2022, 11:28:56 PM
How about Predator vs. Mothman?
https://i.ibb.co/pZQ8x7d/7d2a8044-5ada-4a26-b5b3-8926787cd6dd6b28cbf33acdd2d1fd-3757043244-f2e5c98a2d-o.jpg
Plot twists! - this is the true nature of Mothman..
Spoiler
(https://i.ibb.co/f0GWNjf/Predkiller.jpg)
Mothman ain't nuttin' ta f**k wit
Quote from: Kradan on Feb 23, 2022, 11:33:28 PM
Quote from: Immortan Jonesy on Feb 23, 2022, 11:28:56 PM
Mothman
https://youtu.be/bVVtMzPOyJQ (https://youtu.be/bVVtMzPOyJQ)
For something that looks so much like Rick and Morty this show was actually really good.
Quote from: RidgeTop on Feb 23, 2022, 04:57:25 PM
Quote from: ace3g on Feb 22, 2022, 01:19:27 AM
I wasn't sure but I noticed recently some of the cast (were hanging out together) and crew hinted at possible reshoots, additional filming through IG stories.
and now this, see photo in attachment.
** Jhane Myers and Amber Midthunder shared the same story as well.
Could've sworn I remember seeing this story around the original wrap date, in which a number of those social media posts were taken down. Looks like that same location from the wrap date scene.
Below is the photo that was used in IG stories back in September
Quote from: ace3g on Feb 22, 2022, 01:19:27 AM
I wasn't sure but I noticed recently some of the cast (were hanging out together) and crew hinted at possible reshoots, additional filming through IG stories.
and now this, see photo in attachment.
** Jhane Myers and Amber Midthunder shared the same story as well.
cast hanging out??
Quote from: RidgeTop on Feb 23, 2022, 04:57:25 PM
Quote from: ace3g on Feb 22, 2022, 01:19:27 AM
I wasn't sure but I noticed recently some of the cast (were hanging out together) and crew hinted at possible reshoots, additional filming through IG stories.
and now this, see photo in attachment.
** Jhane Myers and Amber Midthunder shared the same story as well.
Could've sworn I remember seeing this story around the original wrap date, in which a number of those social media posts were taken down. Looks like that same location from the wrap date scene.
I think this was the one you are remembering RT:
(https://i.ibb.co/cwCF0MS/IMG-20220225-082310.jpg)
Quote from: ace3g on Feb 24, 2022, 12:08:20 AM
Below is the photo that was used in IG stories back in September
I hadn't seen that distanced shot before when production wrapped. Interesting!
Take this with a grain of salt, latest crew added to IMDb
Stephen Early ... first assistant camera b camera: Reshoots
Quote from: Kradan on Feb 23, 2022, 06:23:22 AM
Reshoots are to add scenes of Predator fighting terible looking CGI Bigfoot
Quote from: Voodoo Magic on Feb 28, 2022, 08:15:12 PM
Quote from: ace3g on Feb 28, 2022, 01:12:06 AM
Reshoots
Hopefully more Sasquatch scenes.
I'm out of the loop. Is the Sasquatch thing still just a joke? 🤔😅
Quote from: Master on Mar 01, 2022, 01:00:19 PM
Quote from: Voodoo Magic on Feb 28, 2022, 08:15:12 PM
Quote from: ace3g on Feb 28, 2022, 01:12:06 AM
Reshoots
Hopefully more Sasquatch scenes.
#Teamsasquatch 4 life
Right on!
#TeamSasquatchBros Quote from: goose_3387 on Mar 01, 2022, 04:51:35 PM
Quote from: Voodoo Magic on Feb 28, 2022, 08:15:12 PM
Quote from: ace3g on Feb 28, 2022, 01:12:06 AM
Reshoots
Hopefully more Sasquatch scenes.
I'm out of the loop. Is the Sasquatch thing still just a joke? 🤔😅
It's not a joke if you B-E-L-I-E-V-E!
Quote from: Kradan on Feb 28, 2022, 09:04:56 PM
Quote from: Kradan on Feb 23, 2022, 06:23:22 AM
Reshoots are to add scenes of Predator fighting terible looking CGI Bigfoot
Excuse you!. Reshoots are to add scenes of Predator fighting terrible looking ADI Bigfoot, not terrible looking CGI Bigfoot. :D
Reshoots are to add awesome looking super duper completely practical Bigfoot done by ADI which studio execs will replace at the last second with terrible looking CGI one :P
Quote from: goose_3387 on Mar 01, 2022, 04:51:35 PM
Quote from: Voodoo Magic on Feb 28, 2022, 08:15:12 PM
Quote from: ace3g on Feb 28, 2022, 01:12:06 AM
Reshoots
Hopefully more Sasquatch scenes.
I'm out of the loop. Is the Sasquatch thing still just a joke? 🤔😅
there is actual speculation that there will be a bigfoot in this movie... per some hints dropped and little deduction.
Quote from: Voodoo Magic on Mar 01, 2022, 07:26:49 PM
Quote from: Kradan on Feb 23, 2022, 06:23:22 AM
Reshoots are to add scenes of Predator fighting terible looking CGI Bigfoot
Excuse you!. Reshoots are to add scenes of Predator fighting terrible looking ADI Bigfoot, not terrible looking CGI Bigfoot. :D
(https://media.giphy.com/media/ltW8jQSYRO8LgbDnpM/giphy.gif)
(https://i.pinimg.com/originals/ff/6c/aa/ff6caa7d01acfb20c4a512b8b3f40227.gif)
Quote from: Corporal Hicks on Mar 02, 2022, 01:24:31 PM
Quote from: Voodoo Magic on Mar 01, 2022, 07:26:49 PM
Quote from: Kradan on Feb 23, 2022, 06:23:22 AM
Reshoots are to add scenes of Predator fighting terible looking CGI Bigfoot
Excuse you!. Reshoots are to add scenes of Predator fighting terrible looking ADI Bigfoot, not terrible looking CGI Bigfoot. :D
https://media.giphy.com/media/ltW8jQSYRO8LgbDnpM/giphy.gif
https://i.pinimg.com/originals/ff/6c/aa/ff6caa7d01acfb20c4a512b8b3f40227.gif
:laugh:
Those poor CGI artists demand equal outrage!
(https://c.tenor.com/xGOnTR2w3FsAAAAM/friends-joey-tribbiani.gif)
To be fair to CGI artists their work oftenly ends up looking terrible not because of the lack of talent but because they're usually working on ridiculous schedule
It will be curious to see if this bear will be a mix of practical & cg, or just practical. I should caveat a trained live bear could be in play here too, but I'm just not certain what animal filming laws are presently in place in Canada.
(https://i.ibb.co/jfMYKsz/IMG-20220302-105103.jpg)
Hope you're doing okay Kradan!
Thanks, Voodoo, I'm doing as best as I can
Quote from: hoffmanstokes on Mar 02, 2022, 09:32:10 AM
Quote from: goose_3387 on Mar 01, 2022, 04:51:35 PM
Quote from: Voodoo Magic on Feb 28, 2022, 08:15:12 PM
Quote from: ace3g on Feb 28, 2022, 01:12:06 AM
Reshoots
Hopefully more Sasquatch scenes.
I'm out of the loop. Is the Sasquatch thing still just a joke? 🤔😅
there is actual speculation that there will be a bigfoot in this movie... per some hints dropped and little deduction.
Yikes! Hopefully not. 😅
Quote from: goose_3387 on Mar 02, 2022, 08:33:06 PM
Quote from: hoffmanstokes on Mar 02, 2022, 09:32:10 AM
Quote from: goose_3387 on Mar 01, 2022, 04:51:35 PM
Quote from: Voodoo Magic on Feb 28, 2022, 08:15:12 PM
Quote from: ace3g on Feb 28, 2022, 01:12:06 AM
Reshoots
Hopefully more Sasquatch scenes.
I'm out of the loop. Is the Sasquatch thing still just a joke? 🤔😅
there is actual speculation that there will be a bigfoot in this movie... per some hints dropped and little deduction.
Yikes! Hopefully not. 😅
To be fair, some of those hints are vague enough that it could be bigfoot, but it can also just be a regular grizzly bear.
Quote from: Mr.Turok on Mar 03, 2022, 04:19:02 AM
Quote from: goose_3387 on Mar 02, 2022, 08:33:06 PM
Quote from: hoffmanstokes on Mar 02, 2022, 09:32:10 AM
Quote from: goose_3387 on Mar 01, 2022, 04:51:35 PM
Quote from: Voodoo Magic on Feb 28, 2022, 08:15:12 PM
Quote from: ace3g on Feb 28, 2022, 01:12:06 AM
Reshoots
Hopefully more Sasquatch scenes.
I'm out of the loop. Is the Sasquatch thing still just a joke? 🤔😅
there is actual speculation that there will be a bigfoot in this movie... per some hints dropped and little deduction.
Yikes! Hopefully not. 😅
To be fair, some of those hints are vague enough that it could be bigfoot, but it can also just be a regular grizzly bear.
I'm actually to blame. Back before filming started, combing the internet for info, combing social media to see who was following who, I stumbled upon creature actor Dane Diliegro on Instagram who was followed by Dan Trachtenberg and Alec Gillis. At the time, we had no idea Dane was actually involved with Skulls/Prey, but when I found these pictures of Dane in a Bigfoot costume posing next to a Predator, I started fantasizing coincidence? Or perhaps... something more!
(https://i.postimg.cc/VvyyFzCp/Screenshot-20210514-104903-Gallery.jpg)
(https://i.postimg.cc/Hx8D5rVb/Screenshot-20210514-104842-Gallery.jpg)
Ceature fx guru Patrick Magee made the Sasquatch suit, and I believe it was hashtagged as a #Rental on another post, which gives the appearance that this Bigfoot suit could be rented for movies? Parties? It seemed strange, but who knows!
But other than my love for the idea that a Predator comes to Earth, not to hunt man, but hunt the Sasquatch, and the Comanche get in their way... the only real connection we have with Prey & Bigfoot is Dane was actually hired to work on Skulls/Prey at the time, was wearing unspecified creature suits in Prey (along with Kyle) and at the end of filming, mentioned "Sasquatch" on social media a few times (paraphrasing) where he loved being Dan's Sasquatch. And that was (most likely) just Dane having some fun at our expense, based on what we were writing in these forums (we have a suspicion many on set were reading AvPGalaxy).
But I guess there still could be a chance, so....
#TeamSasquatchBros4Life ! ;D
haha I wasn't a big fan of the Bigfoot idea, but after reading this thread, the idea is growing on me. :P I can't believe I'm saying this, but I kinda want to see a team up between the Guardian of the Forest, a grizzly bear (boar), and a Native with a bow taking on a Predator. :laugh:
Quote from: Master Chief on Mar 03, 2022, 03:52:03 PM
haha I wasn't a big fan of the Bigfoot idea, but after reading this thread, the idea is growing on me. :P I can't believe I'm saying this, but I kinda want to see a team up between the Guardian of the Forest, a grizzly bear (boar), and a Native with a bow taking on a Predator. :laugh:
Yes!!!
Welcome to the #SasquatchBros team MC! 👊
Quote from: Master Chief on Mar 03, 2022, 03:52:03 PM
haha I wasn't a big fan of the Bigfoot idea, but after reading this thread, the idea is growing on me. :P I can't believe I'm saying this, but I kinda want to see a team up between the Guardian of the Forest, a grizzly bear (boar), and a Native with a bow taking on a Predator. :laugh:
Well,
there might be another explanation (but it probably wouldn't be the case) (//)
that's disgusting
Quote from: PAS Spinelli on Mar 06, 2022, 12:52:48 AM
that's disgusting
Indeed,
I've tried to add fur to alien too....it looks even worse
Furry Alien ?
Quote from: Kradan on Mar 06, 2022, 06:46:38 AM
Furry Alien ?
Yep,
it's no good...I was just killing time trying to not look constantly at the news
(//)
Some IG stories posted today.
I wonder if they are indeed signifying something is coming soon.
Is it possible we get a trailer soon? Or at least a teaser?
Official marketing campaign could start this month.
Quote from: Corporal Hicks on Mar 08, 2022, 08:39:00 AM
I wonder if they are indeed signifying something is coming soon.
Could be Kyle was just bored. :D
So I just realized that its confirmed that Prey is coming this summer? Got Jurassic World Dominion and Prey to look forward to this summer, alright! 8)
I hope we actually get a teaser and trailer for this. Some streaming movie releases still do that, but it feels like the vast majority of them only have one full trailer a few weeks before release.
Hopefully though if Disney really is intending on turning both Alien and Predator into "event" streaming franchises they're going to market them a bit more than the average random Netflix joint.
Gonna sound real embarrassing but while I'm logged in on my computer, I'm not logged in on my phone so I can't readily post the photo, but Ian Whyte and Ian Feuer had been photographed with Alec Gillis with a muscular humanoid figure right behind Ian Whyte. Ian Feur looking him up was in AVP-R according to IMDB and of course we all know Ian Whyte's portrayals of the Predator.
Not 100% about how old the photo is. It might be from AVP-R but it's worth noting we have three people involved with Predator in some capacity in a recently posted photo on Alec Gillis's instagram. Assuming Kyle Straut is our Predator, we may have three assuming these very tall guys are filming or have filmed something.
Was just about to post but ya beat me to it. Yeah interesting Alec posting a story there with two guys who have played a Predator, and both named Ian! We were fortunate enough to have Ian Feuer on the podcast (https://www.avpgalaxy.net/files/podcasts/avpg_pc_episode063.mp3) a little while back.
Seems a bit random for it to not be a recent gathering. Hmmmm.
Looks recent judging by how old Whyte is looking. :-\
Hmm. That suit appears to be seemingly in the middle of a warehouse. This would make one assume it's actively being worked on. So if this is a current yesterday/today pic, I'm doubting it's for Prey.
Quote from: Voodoo Magic on Mar 11, 2022, 11:26:08 AM
Hmm. That suit appears to be seemingly in the middle of a warehouse. This would make one assume it's actively being worked on. So if this is a current yesterday/today pic, I'm doubting it's for Prey.
Wouldn't necessarily assume that. First time I was there Fugitive's head sculpt was in the middle of the warehouse, and this was after filming. But hey, if it's not, it certainly looks like it could be a Predator build, and that raises even more questions...
Quote from: RidgeTop on Mar 11, 2022, 05:22:04 PM
Quote from: Voodoo Magic on Mar 11, 2022, 11:26:08 AM
Hmm. That suit appears to be seemingly in the middle of a warehouse. This would make one assume it's actively being worked on. So if this is a current yesterday/today pic, I'm doubting it's for Prey.
Wouldn't necessarily assume that. First time I was there Fugitive's head sculpt was in the middle of the warehouse, and this was after filming. But hey, if it's not, it certainly looks like it could be a Predator build, and that raises even more questions...
A Predator television series in the works - confirmed!
Honestly though? Predator on television (or streaming) would be perfect to give it time to breath.
Could it not just be a photo from six odd months ago?
Easily could be!
Quote from: SuperiorIronman on Mar 11, 2022, 12:57:23 AM
Gonna sound real embarrassing but while I'm logged in on my computer, I'm not logged in on my phone so I can't readily post the photo, but Ian Whyte and Ian Feuer had been photographed with Alec Gillis with a muscular humanoid figure right behind Ian Whyte. Ian Feur looking him up was in AVP-R according to IMDB and of course we all know Ian Whyte's portrayals of the Predator.
Not 100% about how old the photo is. It might be from AVP-R but it's worth noting we have three people involved with Predator in some capacity in a recently posted photo on Alec Gillis's instagram. Assuming Kyle Straut is our Predator, we may have three assuming these very tall guys are filming or have filmed something.
I cant Imagine Alec would be posting pictures with the upcomming predator cast... with a suit in the background. Hes been doing this too long to do something like that.
Also, who do we assume is our predator? And why
That's a very current looking Ian Whyte and Alec Gillis, so it's not so easy to write this off as something from AvPR. He's not posting a full unclear image of the suit either.
They could be easily just teasing fandom. I know! Let's hang up a suit behind us partially unobscured and see what happens!
Quote from: SuperiorIronman on Mar 11, 2022, 12:57:23 AM
Gonna sound real embarrassing but while I'm logged in on my computer, I'm not logged in on my phone so I can't readily post the photo, but Ian Whyte and Ian Feuer had been photographed with Alec Gillis with a muscular humanoid figure right behind Ian Whyte. Ian Feur looking him up was in AVP-R according to IMDB and of course we all know Ian Whyte's portrayals of the Predator.
Not 100% about how old the photo is. It might be from AVP-R but it's worth noting we have three people involved with Predator in some capacity in a recently posted photo on Alec Gillis's instagram. Assuming Kyle Straut is our Predator, we may have three assuming these very tall guys are filming or have filmed something.
I could very well just be looking at it wrong, but looks like the muscular suit has hoofs. Lol
I personally think the suit behind them doesn't scream that it's a Predator. It looks like something unrelated to me.
Thought it was interesting and fun seeing the Ian's there with Alec. And that's for sure a recent shot too.
Quote from: NoStyleDutch on Mar 16, 2022, 02:09:37 AM
Quote from: SuperiorIronman on Mar 11, 2022, 12:57:23 AM
Gonna sound real embarrassing but while I'm logged in on my computer, I'm not logged in on my phone so I can't readily post the photo, but Ian Whyte and Ian Feuer had been photographed with Alec Gillis with a muscular humanoid figure right behind Ian Whyte. Ian Feur looking him up was in AVP-R according to IMDB and of course we all know Ian Whyte's portrayals of the Predator.
Not 100% about how old the photo is. It might be from AVP-R but it's worth noting we have three people involved with Predator in some capacity in a recently posted photo on Alec Gillis's instagram. Assuming Kyle Straut is our Predator, we may have three assuming these very tall guys are filming or have filmed something.
I could very well just be looking at it wrong, but looks like the muscular suit has hoofs. Lol
That's just where the suit ends. The black part is the mold under it.
Quote from: Sabres21768 on Mar 21, 2022, 12:51:37 AM
Quote from: NoStyleDutch on Mar 16, 2022, 02:09:37 AM
Quote from: SuperiorIronman on Mar 11, 2022, 12:57:23 AM
Gonna sound real embarrassing but while I'm logged in on my computer, I'm not logged in on my phone so I can't readily post the photo, but Ian Whyte and Ian Feuer had been photographed with Alec Gillis with a muscular humanoid figure right behind Ian Whyte. Ian Feur looking him up was in AVP-R according to IMDB and of course we all know Ian Whyte's portrayals of the Predator.
Not 100% about how old the photo is. It might be from AVP-R but it's worth noting we have three people involved with Predator in some capacity in a recently posted photo on Alec Gillis's instagram. Assuming Kyle Straut is our Predator, we may have three assuming these very tall guys are filming or have filmed something.
I could very well just be looking at it wrong, but looks like the muscular suit has hoofs. Lol
That's just where the suit ends. The black part is the mold under it.
Ah, makes sense
Quote from: NoStyleDutch on Mar 21, 2022, 05:13:02 PM
Quote from: Sabres21768 on Mar 21, 2022, 12:51:37 AM
Quote from: NoStyleDutch on Mar 16, 2022, 02:09:37 AM
Quote from: SuperiorIronman on Mar 11, 2022, 12:57:23 AM
Gonna sound real embarrassing but while I'm logged in on my computer, I'm not logged in on my phone so I can't readily post the photo, but Ian Whyte and Ian Feuer had been photographed with Alec Gillis with a muscular humanoid figure right behind Ian Whyte. Ian Feur looking him up was in AVP-R according to IMDB and of course we all know Ian Whyte's portrayals of the Predator.
Not 100% about how old the photo is. It might be from AVP-R but it's worth noting we have three people involved with Predator in some capacity in a recently posted photo on Alec Gillis's instagram. Assuming Kyle Straut is our Predator, we may have three assuming these very tall guys are filming or have filmed something.
I could very well just be looking at it wrong, but looks like the muscular suit has hoofs. Lol
That's just where the suit ends. The black part is the mold under it.
Ah, makes sense
Damn! I thought it was the wendigo
Quote from: Immortan Jonesy on Mar 25, 2022, 09:32:23 PM
Quote from: NoStyleDutch on Mar 21, 2022, 05:13:02 PM
Quote from: Sabres21768 on Mar 21, 2022, 12:51:37 AM
Quote from: NoStyleDutch on Mar 16, 2022, 02:09:37 AM
Quote from: SuperiorIronman on Mar 11, 2022, 12:57:23 AM
Gonna sound real embarrassing but while I'm logged in on my computer, I'm not logged in on my phone so I can't readily post the photo, but Ian Whyte and Ian Feuer had been photographed with Alec Gillis with a muscular humanoid figure right behind Ian Whyte. Ian Feur looking him up was in AVP-R according to IMDB and of course we all know Ian Whyte's portrayals of the Predator.
Not 100% about how old the photo is. It might be from AVP-R but it's worth noting we have three people involved with Predator in some capacity in a recently posted photo on Alec Gillis's instagram. Assuming Kyle Straut is our Predator, we may have three assuming these very tall guys are filming or have filmed something.
I could very well just be looking at it wrong, but looks like the muscular suit has hoofs. Lol
That's just where the suit ends. The black part is the mold under it.
Ah, makes sense
Damn! I thought it was the wendigo
:laugh:
From my point of view, that IS the wendigo! (and the jedi are evil).
From Alan Villanueva's IG account ... Costume Concept Artist
How soon?!!! 😬😬😬
Digging the title design.
Thinking a trailer is about to drop!
(https://c.tenor.com/lfey4I3UJuIAAAAC/chris-pratt-excited.gif)
Oh my ! I can't wait. I'm so genuinely curious about this one. And they kept things pretty undercover for this one, which adds to the build up.
Can't wait for the trailer to drop just so we have something else official to dissect
Hopefully soon!
(https://media3.giphy.com/media/62p8m8iNHyNy/giphy-downsized.gif)
C'mon trailer!
There's definitely a lack of buzz around these streaming releases. Disney, Netflix, Prime, they give us one trailer and maybe a poster and that's it.
Quote from: goose_3387 on Apr 04, 2022, 09:40:56 AM
There's definitely a lack of buzz around these streaming releases. Disney, Netflix, Prime, they give us one trailer and maybe a poster and that's it.
Less marketing costs to recover now. And I wouldn't be surprised if research data points to releasing a teaser trailer six months prior to a streaming release has little to no impact on overall viewership. Today's audiences seem to be all about what's coming out now. (It stinks for fans though).
Trailers are typically released what, a few months before the movie comes out? I think we'll be getting a teaser or trailer soon.
For major theatrical releases yes, but these days if a movie is exclusively being shown on streaming it's not uncommon to only get a single trailer a couple of weeks before it hits.
Personally I'm only expecting a single trailer maybe a month out from whenever it's going to launch. I don't think we'll even be getting the typical "teaser several months out, then trailer a few months before release" promo cycle for this one.
You're right. Hopefully Disney releases the Prey trailer like they've done for their other streaming shows, which I believe was a couple of months in advance.
Quote from: Voodoo Magic on Apr 06, 2022, 01:28:13 PM
Quote from: goose_3387 on Apr 04, 2022, 09:40:56 AM
There's definitely a lack of buzz around these streaming releases. Disney, Netflix, Prime, they give us one trailer and maybe a poster and that's it.
Less marketing costs to recover now. And I wouldn't be surprised if research data points to releasing a teaser trailer six months prior to a streaming release has little to no impact on overall viewership. Today's audiences seem to be all about what's coming out now. (It stinks for fans though).
Yep, pretty much.
I'm not expecting to see a trailer until a few weeks before release.
I guess knowing as little as possible for a change might be good on this occasion.
I'm surprised there has been and leaks of the predator or sets or anything. Unless it's all going to be rushed cgi.
The Predator is just in the last ten minutes and they're running from John Goodman in a Bigfoot suit for most of the movie.
Quote from: KiramidHead on Apr 08, 2022, 11:47:14 PM
The Predator is just in the last ten minutes and they're running from John Goodman in a Bigfoot suit for most of the movie.
Man i cant believe you spolied the movie now they gotta reshoot it again
Some new cast/crew from IMDb
Sancho Martin ... Comanche Voice Actor --- IG account https://www.instagram.com/sanchomartin/
**Maybe when the Predator mimics one of the characters?
Bernie Van De Yacht ... loop group/voice casting -- IG account https://www.instagram.com/bernievandeyacht/
Michael Love ... Additional Photography Data Systems Technician -- IG account https://www.instagram.com/michaelphotolove/
Brent K. Walker ... special effects technician: additional photography
Smokey Cloud ... first assistant sound editor
Cameron Davidson ... special effects technician: additional photography
Justice Joseph ... Concept Artist -- IG account https://www.instagram.com/the_justice_joseph/
Mary Louise Gemmill ... loop group/voice casting
Leslie Maynes ... production accountant
Kyle IG story
Quote from: ace3g on Apr 28, 2022, 11:05:39 PM
Some new cast/crew from IMDb
Sancho Martin ... Comanche Voice Actor --- IG account https://www.instagram.com/sanchomartin/
**Maybe when the Predator mimics one of the characters?
Bernie Van De Yacht ... loop group/voice casting -- IG account https://www.instagram.com/bernievandeyacht/
Michael Love ... Additional Photography Data Systems Technician -- IG account https://www.instagram.com/michaelphotolove/
Brent K. Walker ... special effects technician: additional photography
Smokey Cloud ... first assistant sound editor
Cameron Davidson ... special effects technician: additional photography
Justice Joseph ... Concept Artist -- IG account https://www.instagram.com/the_justice_joseph/
Mary Louise Gemmill ... loop group/voice casting
Leslie Maynes ... production accountant
Kyle IG story
They nees to drop that trailer soon
Ya mon.
Jamison Rabbe ... adr mixer
You know I'm starving for information when I'm interested in who's the adr mixer. :laugh:
Quote from: Voodoo Magic on Apr 30, 2022, 11:42:06 AM
You know I'm starving for information when I'm interested in who's the adr mixer. :laugh:
What is even a adr mixer sound work
Automatic Dialogue Replacement mixer. When lines are redone in a studio later, they need to be mixed to sounds like they were recorded in the original or intended film location, not a soundproof booth.
Quote from: SiL on Apr 30, 2022, 11:11:17 PMAutomatic Dialogue Replacement mixer. When lines are redone in a studio later, they need to be mixed to sounds like they were recorded in the original or intended film location, not a soundproof booth.
I always thought it was 'Additional' either way, it's one of those things that ideally you never think about when watching a movie/tv show but when it's done poorly it's very noticeable
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kWYlSnPKTi0Haven't listened yet, so not sure if Prey comes up but was tagged in this on Twitter.
I didn't listen to the whole thing but there's some Prey talk at 16 minutes. Nothing new there, still can't say much about it, out sometime this summer on Hulu. That's about the jist of it
She....she brought up a great point that I didn't even notice. This film really does have the first ever female native american lead role ever. Most films have them as a side character or love interest but never a leading role in anything. Damm, another reason why to not mess up this film, I just want this film to be good please don't mess this up.
Pocahontas would like a word?
Also The New Mutants?
I can't blame anyone for forgetting about either one.
I get forgetting New Mutants but Pocahontas was a popular film.
Perhaps at the time, but I was born in 97, never saw it when growing up and the ratings don't suggest I missed out.
I don't see what that has to do with anything. It doesn't change the fact she's wrong and you personally not knowingg much about it is completely irrelevant.
Maybe she meant lead in an action movie, that would make more sense.
She specifically said lead in an action film, I'm listening to it now actually, so she's right on that count. As for being irrelevant you brought up popularity, I am disputing Pocahontas' claimed popularity, it's the lowest rated and least successful of the "Disney Renaissance" after all.
Pocahontas is animated... New Mutants is an ensemble film.
and Pocahontas is controversial and stereotypical enough that i bet most native americans would rather forget about it.
Her comments were framed as "first female Native American lead", period.
Which was slightly inaccurate as she did specify action movie and from what I can tell she's absolutely right.
New Mutants was definitely wanting to be an ensemble but there was a clear lead character whose arc drove the entire film.
Good interview, worth watching for fans of Legion, or Predator, or just aspiring actors or creatives.
Quote from: skhellter on May 03, 2022, 10:10:32 PMPocahontas is animated... New Mutants is an ensemble film.
and Pocahontas is controversial and stereotypical enough that i bet most native americans would rather forget about it.
Yeah, relistening to the podcast, she did say lead action role which is still big for them still either way. I think there is a strong resentment of the animated film from the Powhatan tribe as many were hired to be consultants for the film but ended up being ignored and washing over the film's portrayal of the character of something that is not. I'm not familiar with the New Mutants to have any comment on it.
I'm just waiting for that trailer, come on folks, drop it already and give us something to talk about already!
Thinking more on this, maybe the late drop will be because the film will be dropped in August to avoid competition with the bigger films coming in like JWD.
I'm expecting something in June/early July at the latest, with an August release.
I almost thought a trailer was classified when I saw this on the Alberta Canada website, lol
PR (trailer #1) Parental Guidance May 06, 2022 2:38 Independent
Needs more EY.
Quote from: ace3g on May 06, 2022, 10:00:39 PMI almost thought a trailer was classified when I saw this on the Alberta Canada website, lol
PR (trailer #1) Parental Guidance May 06, 2022 2:38 Independent
The delirium has set in. I'm getting there too!
Does a trailer need to be classified if it's not going to show in theatres?
I hope the wait is not long. I'm starving for some real news!
Quote from: Master on May 08, 2022, 06:06:02 AMI hope the wait is not long. I'm starving for some real news!
It's always funny how that works. Right now we are in a total drought of news. It's agonizing. And then one day that will change. We will go from getting a trailer, to behind scenes vidoes, cast interviews, appearances in magazines, merchandise tie ins, etc.
At some point the scales will tip. Just gotta keep enduring. All I'm waiting for is seeing the Predator. That is literally all I care about at this time.
Gotta wonder how confident they are in it given that vacuum of information
This is, again, pretty normal.
Hollywood learned its lesson (well, lessons) about not advertising too early when some films didn't do as well as they hoped and people said they heard about the movie so long ago they didn't realise it was only just out.
These days they have very narrow windows for marketing so it's fresh in people's minds and they get more bang for their Buck. In the over saturated streaming market this is more important than ever usual results in even tighter ad windows.
Quote from: The Shuriken on May 08, 2022, 03:28:28 PMQuote from: Master on May 08, 2022, 06:06:02 AMI hope the wait is not long. I'm starving for some real news!
It's always funny how that works. Right now we are in a total drought of news. It's agonizing. And then one day that will change. We will go from getting a trailer, to behind scenes vidoes, cast interviews, appearances in magazines, merchandise tie ins, etc.
At some point the scales will tip. Just gotta keep enduring. All I'm waiting for is seeing the Predator. That is literally all I care about at this time.
Don't get your hopes up for seeing much advertising. Given it's a streaming release, it will most likely just be one trailer and a new poster. I can't think of a streaming release that has gone heavy with the promotion.
That awful Chris Pratt movie on Amazon about time travel war, The Adam Protect, Extraction - I've seen a few streaming releases get pretty intense online marketing pushes, although it does actually seem like they put more into it AFTER release than before.
Makes sense, since it's less effort and commitment to garner a click on the first month of release than it is to convince someone to rush out opening weekend.
Quote from: SiL on May 08, 2022, 10:18:54 PMThat awful Chris Pratt movie on Amazon about time travel war, The Adam Protect, Extraction - I've seen a few streaming releases get pretty intense online marketing pushes, although it does actually seem like they put more into it AFTER release than before.
Yeah that Chris Pratt movie was all over TV when it was coming out. Same with Red Notice and 6 Underground on Netflix if I remember correctly. Don't really remember seeing anything from Disney+ though (It'll be Disney+ rather than Hulu where I am) other than just general promos for the service rather than any specific movie or show
Gimme that trailer pls
I find it hard to adjust to the little buildup we received to this point. You take away all the leaks and diligent research and John Davis being asked about Skulls while promoting another movie, and all we really got to chew on was the "poster" announcement and some social media posts.
On the flip side, it would have been kinda cool to just not know it was on the way until a trailer dropped
Quote from: Doomofman on May 11, 2022, 02:16:36 PMOn the flip side, it would have been kinda cool to just not know it was on the way until a trailer dropped
Or after that. Reality versus the alternative, I would have gladly gone back in time and opted for the secret Predator film Dan intended. No qualms in missing out on this particular "build up".
Anyday now.
Anytime. ;D
Perhaps they'll never show us the trailer nor the film. The ultimate secret Predator film.
Quote from: Voodoo Magic on May 13, 2022, 10:11:49 PMPerhaps they'll never show us the trailer nor the film. The ultimate secret Predator film.
Probably the best damn movie nobody ever saw...
Someone check to make sure it hasn't just been uploaded already without notice :laugh:
Mr. X has been listed a lot on the crew section on IMDb.
Their site has this announcement:
QuoteMR. X WILL SOON BE PART OF THE MPC FAMILY OF STUDIOS. LOOK OUT FOR MORE NEWS OVER THE COMING DAYS.
There are also some crew connected with MPC.
**MPC has Prey listed on their site as well.
Mr. X website has Prey listed on their upcoming projects section.
https://www.mrxfx.com/
Latest IMDb crew listings:
Ehsan Bigloo ... Character Designer
Brad Pajot ... props on set
Sagar Dhondge ... digital compositor: Mr. X
Pascal Blais ... head of animation
Matthew Kabby Kabakoff ... adr recording engineer
__
One of Dane's latest IG stories
Quote from: SiL on May 14, 2022, 04:58:01 AMSomeone check to make sure it hasn't just been uploaded already without notice :laugh:
Quote from: ace3g on May 15, 2022, 01:24:11 AMMr. X has been listed a lot on the crew section on IMDb.
Their site has this announcement:
QuoteMR. X WILL SOON BE PART OF THE MPC FAMILY OF STUDIOS. LOOK OUT FOR MORE NEWS OVER THE COMING DAYS.
There are also some crew connected with MPC.
**MPC has Prey listed on their site as well.
Mr. X website has Prey listed on their upcoming projects section.
https://www.mrxfx.com/
Latest IMDb crew listings:
Ehsan Bigloo ... Character Designer
Brad Pajot ... props on set
Sagar Dhondge ... digital compositor: Mr. X
Pascal Blais ... head of animation
Matthew Kabby Kabakoff ... adr recording engineer
__
One of Dane's latest IG stories
That hint means Grayback will be there. ;)
Quote from: Yautja888 on May 15, 2022, 06:29:03 PMQuote from: SiL on May 14, 2022, 04:58:01 AMSomeone check to make sure it hasn't just been uploaded already without notice :laugh:
Quote from: ace3g on May 15, 2022, 01:24:11 AMMr. X has been listed a lot on the crew section on IMDb.
Their site has this announcement:
QuoteMR. X WILL SOON BE PART OF THE MPC FAMILY OF STUDIOS. LOOK OUT FOR MORE NEWS OVER THE COMING DAYS.
There are also some crew connected with MPC.
**MPC has Prey listed on their site as well.
Mr. X website has Prey listed on their upcoming projects section.
https://www.mrxfx.com/
Latest IMDb crew listings:
Ehsan Bigloo ... Character Designer
Brad Pajot ... props on set
Sagar Dhondge ... digital compositor: Mr. X
Pascal Blais ... head of animation
Matthew Kabby Kabakoff ... adr recording engineer
__
One of Dane's latest IG stories
That hint means Grayback will be there. ;)
What if they have a cold open to the film with footage from P2?
Quote from: ace3g on May 15, 2022, 06:31:17 PMQuote from: Yautja888 on May 15, 2022, 06:29:03 PMQuote from: SiL on May 14, 2022, 04:58:01 AMSomeone check to make sure it hasn't just been uploaded already without notice :laugh:
Quote from: ace3g on May 15, 2022, 01:24:11 AMMr. X has been listed a lot on the crew section on IMDb.
Their site has this announcement:
QuoteMR. X WILL SOON BE PART OF THE MPC FAMILY OF STUDIOS. LOOK OUT FOR MORE NEWS OVER THE COMING DAYS.
There are also some crew connected with MPC.
**MPC has Prey listed on their site as well.
Mr. X website has Prey listed on their upcoming projects section.
https://www.mrxfx.com/
Latest IMDb crew listings:
Ehsan Bigloo ... Character Designer
Brad Pajot ... props on set
Sagar Dhondge ... digital compositor: Mr. X
Pascal Blais ... head of animation
Matthew Kabby Kabakoff ... adr recording engineer
__
One of Dane's latest IG stories
That hint means Grayback will be there. ;)
What if they have a cold open to the film with footage from P2?
The spaceship flying over the Eastern building , disappears into the sky, and lands in 1719, Greyback gets out.
I could see our boy revealed as Grayback as either the reveal taking place during Predator 2 to make a firm connection it's him. Or that a now older Grayback is back in LA. Like either he escapes or is thought dead and we have an end credits scene revealing it's him.
I don't think they'd opt for time travel but you never know.
Quote from: SuperiorIronman on May 15, 2022, 07:40:00 PMI could see our boy revealed as Grayback as either the reveal taking place during Predator 2 to make a firm connection it's him. Or that a now older Grayback is back in LA. Like either he escapes or is thought dead and we have an end credits scene revealing it's him.
I don't think they'd opt for time travel but you never know.
Maybe as a flashback rather than time travel.
Quote from: Yautja888 on May 15, 2022, 08:09:29 PMQuote from: SuperiorIronman on May 15, 2022, 07:40:00 PMI could see our boy revealed as Grayback as either the reveal taking place during Predator 2 to make a firm connection it's him. Or that a now older Grayback is back in LA. Like either he escapes or is thought dead and we have an end credits scene revealing it's him.
I don't think they'd opt for time travel but you never know.
Maybe as a flashback rather than time travel.
Please God no time travel bs in a predator movie.
I don't even see how time travel is possible. The most possible outcome would be just a simple sequence of passage of time, with a now Elder Greyback observing CH stalking the cityscape of LA, which brings memories of how the Comanche tribe he hunted also had a manhood hunt ritual, which his own pupil is now doing. A respectful nod to the second film, but not much else I think.
I had a dream about a trailer for this lmao
Let's hope you were right about the quality.
feeling good about today
I feel like I'm missing something. How does the new crew listing refer to Greyback (though I totally think it's going to be him).
May 22, 2022, 08:19:27 AMQuote from: hoffmanstokes on May 16, 2022, 07:31:45 AMfeeling good about today
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We've got an Insider! :P
New crew listings:
Terry Shewchuk ... prop maker
Travis Shewchuk ... prop designer/prop maker / prop desinger / prop maker
Trista Shewchuk ... prop maker
Parry Tessman ... prop maker
Biswadeep Ghosh ... digital compositor
Christopher Overby ... layout & matchmove artist
Grayson Ogle ... assistant location manager
A family of prop makers.
Quote from: Corporal Hicks on May 16, 2022, 01:30:54 PMQuote from: hoffmanstokes on May 16, 2022, 07:31:45 AMfeeling good about today
https://media.giphy.com/media/Yavo0SXhZYhSo/giphy.gif
We've got an Insider! :P
maybe i know someone... maybe i don't... 🤔
maybe i'm just your average canadian fan of avp
https://press.hulu.com/news/2022/05/16/hulu-originals-summer-slate/
So the press release mentions Jim and John Thomas getting executive producer credits. I can't remember and don't have the films to hand to check, but I thought they normally just got the obligatory "based on" and normal producer credits.
I wonder if this was something to come out of the lawsuit.
Quote from: Corporal Hicks on May 17, 2022, 02:47:47 PMhttps://press.hulu.com/news/2022/05/16/hulu-originals-summer-slate/
So the press release mentions Jim and John Thomas getting executive producer credits. I can't remember and don't have the films to hand to check, but I thought they normally just got the obligatory "based on" and normal producer credits.
I wonder if this was something to come out of the lawsuit.
Hmmmm......
Quote from: Corporal Hicks on May 17, 2022, 02:47:47 PMhttps://press.hulu.com/news/2022/05/16/hulu-originals-summer-slate/
So the press release mentions Jim and John Thomas getting executive producer credits. I can't remember and don't have the films to hand to check, but I thought they normally just got the obligatory "based on" and normal producer credits.
I wonder if this was something to come out of the lawsuit.
I wonder if they had any useful input on the film.
So I saw a mostly unmasked design that looks utterly ridiculous and makes no sense since they can't breath Earth's atmosphere for very long and the biomask has other important uses such as protection since their head is their most vulnerable spot and allows them to de-noise thier vision and use other vision modes as well, but most importantly it's so they can breath. on the Prey Twitter account you can see it in the link I added, I hope so badly this isn't the final design. https://mobile.twitter.com/predatormovie/status/1500209042148442118
That's old fan art, it's not concept art for the film.
It's also one of Scified fan-sites/Twitter accounts that parades itself as an official site.
Everything I believed in turned out to be a lie. A LIE !
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Scified is a cancer
Oh ok haha, thank you all for clarifying, I was like...hmmm...not what I would pick, but to each their own.
Quote from: PAS Spinelli on May 18, 2022, 09:27:32 PMScified is a cancer
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You think they'd upgrade their url from Predator4-movie.com.
I just wanna see the Predator already goddamn it. Please make it stop. I just wanna see it!
So... anyone expecting the Pred to survive in the end?
Depends whether the main pred is a young Greyback or not, I guess.
Quote from: PAS Spinelli on May 20, 2022, 12:44:08 AMSo... anyone expecting the Pred to survive in the end?
They never do, so I don't see why this would be different.
If it is Greyback...it'd be a nice change of pace.
Would be interesting to see.
The Predator surviving doesn't even need to mean the protagonist dies or loses. If Harrigan hadn't chased City Hunter he could've got in the ship and gone home (I say "could" because he's killed by his peers in earlier script drafts).
Which is something I'd still be interested to see on screen - killed by their leaders specifically.
I've noticed that the "Prey 2022 is ripping off this old fan film" meme is being shared around a lot recently.
(And when the film comes out, it'll get shared even more).
It'll be useful to make an article to point out that "Predators hunting native Americans" is an old idea in the franchise and that the fan film didn't come up with it from thin air.
It's first brought up in the novelization of the original, no?
Never seen a fan film that goes historical with it except the crusader one though, surely that's not what they mean?
Quote from: [cancerblack] on May 20, 2022, 11:46:51 AMnever seen a fan film that goes historical with it except the crusader one though, surely that's not what they mean?
no. they mean the "Warrior: Predator" fan film.
A quick google does show a similar premise. Can't say I give a shit though tbh.
Quote from: Corporal Hicks on May 20, 2022, 07:50:57 AMIf it is Greyback...it'd be a nice change of pace.
Are there any rumors hinting at this Predator being Greyback? Or is just speculation based on the time period?
I personally don't think any director or writer is aware of the lore to make that connection. But I'm a pessimist, so.
Quote from: The Shuriken on May 20, 2022, 03:13:16 PMQuote from: Corporal Hicks on May 20, 2022, 07:50:57 AMIf it is Greyback...it'd be a nice change of pace.
Are there any rumors hinting at this Predator being Greyback? Or is just speculation based on the time period?
I personally don't think director or writer is aware of the lore make that connection. But I'm a pessimist, so.
I think there was a rumour that the FX team bought several replicas of the pistol from the end of P2
Quote from: PAS Spinelli on May 20, 2022, 12:44:08 AMSo... anyone expecting the Pred to survive in the end?
Nope. Having the Predator survive for the first time against the first live-action female lead in the franchise wouldn't send a great message.
If Greyback's in the film he'll be hunting people off to the side with the rest of his group and only show up briefly, a la the Lost Tribe at the end of P2. So he might well be there, and we might get our flintlock nod (perhaps we might get a scene of multiple Predators hunting a group of people, then the main one singles out Naru for the remainder of the film), but there's no way he's going to be the main antagonist.
Quote from: skhellter on May 20, 2022, 10:56:07 AMI've noticed that the "Prey 2022 is ripping off this old fan film" meme is being shared around a lot recently.
(And when the film comes out, it'll get shared even more).
It'll be useful to make an article to point out that "Predators hunting native Americans" is an old idea in the franchise and that the fan film didn't come up with it from thin air.
I believe it's already been pointed out by Mr H and others that Prey had been in development years before that fan film.
May 22, 2022, 07:15:22 AMQuote from: The Shuriken on May 20, 2022, 03:13:16 PMQuote from: Corporal Hicks on May 20, 2022, 07:50:57 AMIf it is Greyback...it'd be a nice change of pace.
Are there any rumors hinting at this Predator being Greyback? Or is just speculation based on the time period?
I personally don't think any director or writer is aware of the lore to make that connection. But I'm a pessimist, so.
The person who took the "Skulls" set pics said one of the crew members revealed the film involves the Flintlock.
Quote from: Voodoo Magic on May 20, 2022, 09:56:27 PMQuote from: The Shuriken on May 20, 2022, 03:13:16 PMQuote from: Corporal Hicks on May 20, 2022, 07:50:57 AMIf it is Greyback...it'd be a nice change of pace.
Are there any rumors hinting at this Predator being Greyback? Or is just speculation based on the time period?
I personally don't think any director or writer is aware of the lore to make that connection. But I'm a pessimist, so.
The person who took the "Skulls" set pics said one of the crew members revealed the film involves the Flintlock.
That's a pretty big revelation if true. Well now we gotta hope ADI can get a younger Greyback to look good. Which could be...problematic...
On one hand I think a part of me prefers this Predator to be all new. Because you can do a lot with the design. Having it just be a younger Greyback isn't as exciting only because we already know what he looks like.
He could have different armor, and have less features that make him look older. But overall we know what to expect.
Quote from: The Shuriken on May 20, 2022, 10:05:11 PMQuote from: Voodoo Magic on May 20, 2022, 09:56:27 PMQuote from: The Shuriken on May 20, 2022, 03:13:16 PMQuote from: Corporal Hicks on May 20, 2022, 07:50:57 AMIf it is Greyback...it'd be a nice change of pace.
Are there any rumors hinting at this Predator being Greyback? Or is just speculation based on the time period?
I personally don't think any director or writer is aware of the lore to make that connection. But I'm a pessimist, so.
The person who took the "Skulls" set pics said one of the crew members revealed the film involves the Flintlock.
That's a pretty big revelation if true. Well now we gotta hope ADI can get a younger Greyback to look good. Which could be...problematic...
Until we know the dividing line of FX responsibilities, I guess it's also remotely possible ADI is doing the bear and Comanche work and Steve Wang's Onyx Forge is handling the Pred duties. It will be interesting how it all shakes out.
QuoteOn one hand I think a part of me prefers this Predator to be all new. Because you can do a lot with the design. Having it just be a younger Greyback isn't as exciting only because we already know what he looks like.
He could have different armor, and have less features that make him look older. But overall we know what to expect.
Yeah, I can get feeling that way.
Quote from: Voodoo Magic on May 20, 2022, 10:23:41 PMQuote from: The Shuriken on May 20, 2022, 10:05:11 PMQuote from: Voodoo Magic on May 20, 2022, 09:56:27 PMQuote from: The Shuriken on May 20, 2022, 03:13:16 PMQuote from: Corporal Hicks on May 20, 2022, 07:50:57 AMIf it is Greyback...it'd be a nice change of pace.
Are there any rumors hinting at this Predator being Greyback? Or is just speculation based on the time period?
I personally don't think any director or writer is aware of the lore to make that connection. But I'm a pessimist, so.
The person who took the "Skulls" set pics said one of the crew members revealed the film involves the Flintlock.
That's a pretty big revelation if true. Well now we gotta hope ADI can get a younger Greyback to look good. Which could be...problematic...
Until we know the dividing line of FX responsibilities, I guess it's also remotely possible ADI is doing the bear and Comanche work and Steve Wang's Onyx Forge is handling the Pred duties. It will be interesting how it all shakes out.
ok but who's doing the sashquach??
Steve Wang's special effects company is working on Prey?
Quote from: The Shuriken on May 21, 2022, 03:18:44 PMSteve Wang's special effects company is working on Prey?
Yeah, there were clues last year that both ADI and Steve Wang's Onyx Forge Studio were on the job, and hiring around the same time. And Jen Roomes, an up & coming Special FX, Make-Up, Costume Designer, bounced between both teams.
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Oh my god if Steve Wang is working on the Predator design...that would be incredible...
Quote from: The Shuriken on May 22, 2022, 12:36:21 AMOh my god if Steve Wang is working on the Predator design...that would be incredible...
Well, we'd need Wang to handle the execution too. Wang has done strictly head sculpting before where ADI's realization of that sculpt was less than spectacular. But Steve's Studio does full costume work, soup to nuts, so that would be my ultimate wish fulfilled. :)
Quote from: Voodoo Magic on May 22, 2022, 01:26:21 AMQuote from: The Shuriken on May 22, 2022, 12:36:21 AMOh my god if Steve Wang is working on the Predator design...that would be incredible...
Well, we'd need Wang to handle the execution too. Wang has done strictly head sculpting before where ADI's realization of that sculpt was less than spectacular. But Steve's Studio does full costume work, soup to nuts, so that would be my ultimate wish fulfilled. :)
You don't summon Grayback and let ADI screw its face.Or you will face consequences.
Quote from: Yautja888 on May 22, 2022, 10:11:32 AMQuote from: Voodoo Magic on May 22, 2022, 01:26:21 AMQuote from: The Shuriken on May 22, 2022, 12:36:21 AMOh my god if Steve Wang is working on the Predator design...that would be incredible...
Well, we'd need Wang to handle the execution too. Wang has done strictly head sculpting before where ADI's realization of that sculpt was less than spectacular. But Steve's Studio does full costume work, soup to nuts, so that would be my ultimate wish fulfilled. :)
You don't summon Grayback and let ADI screw its face.Or you will face consequences.
Yeah I can already imagine the complete meltdown the fandom would have if they ruined Greyback.
Predator jaws design is Rocket science.
Quote from: Voodoo Magic on May 20, 2022, 09:53:00 PMI believe it's already been pointed out by Mr H and others that Prey had been in development years before that fan film.
That topic will show up again.. and again..
Saw some """"youtube reactors"""" (weird creatures, those) talk about Prey ripping off this short. So the "lie" is spreading.
Quote from: skhellter on May 23, 2022, 10:33:56 AMQuote from: Voodoo Magic on May 20, 2022, 09:53:00 PMI believe it's already been pointed out by Mr H and others that Prey had been in development years before that fan film.
That topic will show up again.. and again..
Saw some """"youtube reactors"""" (weird creatures, those) talk about Prey ripping off this short. So the "lie" is spreading.
Yeah unfortunately these days, the truth and fact-checking isn't very popular. :(
I've seen him listed on other sites before but now IMDb has him listed as well.
Ray Strachan ... Ralu
https://www.imdb.com/name/nm6874313/?ref_=ttfc_fc_cl_t6
And he posted this on May 16th
Will be interesting to see the character he plays.
Dane's latest IG story
Quote from: ace3g on Jun 01, 2022, 11:08:17 PMDane's latest IG story
Looks like Jungle Hunter?
I don't think that is the actual Predator for the film. Just a statue like the many others in the studio.
Ooh, decapitation.
Latest crew listings from IMDb
Alyssa Hill ... (additional photography)
Leslie Bloome ... foley artist
Shaun Brennan ... foley artist
Ryan Collison ... foley mixer
Curtis Henderson ... foley apprentice
Connor Nagy ... foley mixer
Roni Pillischer ... foley editor
Nick Seaman ... foley editor
Annie Taylor ... Foley Supervisor
Sekh Batul Ali ... Modeling
Ajay Biswas ... visual effects artist
Martin-James Doyon ... visual effects artist
Cody Martens ... lighting technician
Jeremy Hockman ... finishing accountant: Company 3
Quote from: hoffmanstokes on Jun 02, 2022, 05:59:56 AMQuote from: ace3g on Jun 01, 2022, 11:08:17 PMDane's latest IG story
i wonder what it means?
Nothing other than he's in a Predator film I think. He was taking pics with it last year in Sasquatch costume.
(https://i.postimg.cc/VvyyFzCp/Screenshot-20210514-104903-Gallery.jpg)
#BringOnTheSasquatch
Quote from: ace3g on Jun 04, 2022, 12:46:41 AMLatest crew listings from IMDb
Jeremy Hockman ... finishing accountant: Company 3
I was hoping Hockman would be the film's finishing accountant! Woot!
Quote from: Voodoo Magic on Jun 04, 2022, 01:58:59 PMQuote from: ace3g on Jun 04, 2022, 12:46:41 AMLatest crew listings from IMDb
Jeremy Hockman ... finishing accountant: Company 3
I was hoping Hockman would be the film's finishing accountant! Woot!
(https://c.tenor.com/TOuRID6vFYYAAAAC/the-accountant-ben-affleck.gif)
So uuuuuuuuuuh, a thing just happened...... :o :o :o
Quote from: Kailem on Jun 04, 2022, 08:58:41 PMSo uuuuuuuuuuh, a thing just happened...... :o :o :o
Are you talking about the trailer? This movie really looks promisisng.
Quote from: wolfvanguard50 on Jun 04, 2022, 09:12:48 PMQuote from: Kailem on Jun 04, 2022, 08:58:41 PMSo uuuuuuuuuuh, a thing just happened...... :o :o :o
Are you talking about the trailer? This movie really looks promisisng.
(https://media2.giphy.com/media/S3Ot3hZ5bcy8o/giphy.gif)
(https://i.gifer.com/4x6h.gif)
What ? Where ? What ?
It looks so very f**king good. I haven't felt a hype like this for Predator in a long, long time.
Tell me where is it !!!
"There's something out there leaked; and it looks real good!"
Aaaaaah ! f**k ! Give me a link, please ! Aaaaah !
Quote from: Kailem on Jun 04, 2022, 09:22:19 PM"There's something out there leaked; and it looks real good!"
(https://i.gifer.com/embedded/download/3KUZ.gif)
Quote from: Mikey on Jun 04, 2022, 09:25:39 PMQuote from: Kailem on Jun 04, 2022, 09:22:19 PM"There's something out there leaked; and it looks real good!"
https://i.gifer.com/embedded/download/3KUZ.gif
The bit where Arnie showed up and said "I'm John Prey!" was indeed awesome!!
Quote from: Kailem on Jun 04, 2022, 09:27:49 PMThe bit where Arnie showed up and said "I'm John Prey!" was indeed awesome!!
"Father of Alan Dutch Prey Schaefer!"
(https://66.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m7rs3agZWv1rxof87o1_500.gif)
But for real. We've seent it, and it looks real good. Don't want to get anyone in trouble.
Nah. The best part was when
Spoiler
Sasquatch showed up
Just gave it a watch. Yeah, I'm pretty into what I'm seeing here. Hoping this one ends up being as cool as it looks, 'cause it looks very cool.
Spoiler
Is it used some animal's skull for a mask ?
It sure looks like it.
Posted in the full trailer thread, but sharing here too. A good look at the Predators design.
Screen-Shot-2022-06-04-at-1.53.19-PM.jpg
It's using the skull from the original design!
Jun 04, 2022, 10:21:27 PM
Specifically, it's using the River Ghost Design's skull!
(https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/858848204341772318/982770173939449886/unknown.png)
Was pointed out to me on Twitter that it kinda reminds them of the bear killed earlier in the trailer. Could the mask be part of it's skull?
FUcO4YfWIAQUWPj.jpg
The Pred is red! I'm so glad we are getting varied designs
It reminds me of one of Wolf's early designs. Will have to see if I can find it.
Here's the piece I'm thinking of!
(https://i.imgur.com/apcEkdU.jpg)
love the bone mask but i cant seem to figure out where the visors are? how does it see through it :laugh:
Maybe it doesn't at all this time around. I did notice the trailer features no Predator pov shots.
Quote from: BlueMarsalis79 on Jun 05, 2022, 06:00:39 PMMaybe it doesn't at all this time around. I did notice the trailer features no Predator pov shots.
Someone on the crew posted something around the IR cameras they were using at one point so they seemingly at least shot some IR stuff
really cant imagine a predator movie with no pred pov
Quote from: PAS Spinelli on Jun 04, 2022, 10:13:47 PMIt's using the skull from the original design!
Jun 04, 2022, 10:21:27 PM
Specifically, it's using the River Ghost Design's skull!
https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/858848204341772318/982770173939449886/unknown.png
Naaah
Quote from: Mikey on Jun 04, 2022, 10:28:56 PMWas pointed out to me on Twitter that it kinda reminds them of the bear killed earlier in the trailer. Could the mask be part of it's skull?
FUcO4YfWIAQUWPj.jpg
That sounds more plausible to me
It doesn't look like a bear skull either, it's probably some random alien creature's skull that we'll never see
Could maybe be parts of a bison skull (which would fit given the period) but it's a bit of a stretch
Some cool fan art posted on Facebook. I tried tracking down the artist but had no luck, and I can't quite read his name from the signature:
(https://i.imgur.com/eeSdkGI.jpg)
Sick new official poster
https://twitter.com/Predator/status/1534175630480113664/photo/1
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FUp7uYUVUAAIb53?format=jpg&name=large)
Predator blood as warpaint? Oh I dig that, I dig that a lot! ;D
Is it our final poster I've got Predator poster wall and I'd like something more... idk Predatory.
Quote from: Master on Jun 07, 2022, 02:23:22 PMIs it our final poster I've got Predator poster wall and I'd like something more... idk Predatory.
I suspect it's the final one. Guess you'll have to stick with that first one with the mist/fog for your wall
Quote from: Doomofman on Jun 07, 2022, 02:09:53 PMSick new official poster
https://twitter.com/Predator/status/1534175630480113664/photo/1
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FUp7uYUVUAAIb53?format=jpg&name=large
I like it however I'd still like to see the Predator on a poster.
Quote from: Doomofman on Jun 07, 2022, 02:25:31 PMQuote from: Master on Jun 07, 2022, 02:23:22 PMIs it our final poster I've got Predator poster wall and I'd like something more... idk Predatory.
I suspect it's the final one. Guess you'll have to stick with that first one with the mist/fog for your wall
(https://i.imgur.com/KotUmD6.jpeg)
The place on the wall is already waiting!
Quote from: Doomofman on Jun 07, 2022, 02:09:53 PMSick new official poster
https://twitter.com/Predator/status/1534175630480113664/photo/1
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FUp7uYUVUAAIb53?format=jpg&name=large
Oooh I love that!
Just saw that the Canadian version of the trailer is marked "Disney+", in case there was any doubt about it coming out there internationally.
Interesting tweet from Dane
https://twitter.com/DDNumeroUno/status/1534184826835677185
Feral Predator
Also interesting, in Coming Soon's article on the trailer, they specifically mention Dane is playing the Predator
https://collider.com/prey-trailer-predator-prequel-amber-midthunder-hulu/ (https://collider.com/prey-trailer-predator-prequel-amber-midthunder-hulu/)
That combined with IMDB listing Kyle as 'Additional Predator' (Edit: Just went to doublecheck this, has changed since yesterday/the day before, Kyle is no longer listed in the cast on IMDB) is getting my Greyback juices flowing (may all mean nothing in the end though :P )
So the movie will have a Comanche sub after all. That's pretty awesome.
https://twitter.com/OhMyMithrandir/status/1534179060531732482
Not sure if these are official publicity shots or stills from the trailer, but they look good quality regardless.
Quote from: Corporal Hicks on Jun 07, 2022, 03:21:06 PMhttps://twitter.com/OhMyMithrandir/status/1534179060531732482
Not sure if these are official publicity shots or stills from the trailer, but they look good quality regardless.
I feel like they're screens from a high quality version of the trailer. Seeing the second pic in this quality made me finally notice the laser targeter on the mask
Quote from: The Shuriken on Jun 07, 2022, 03:11:43 PMSo the movie will have a Comanche sub after all. That's pretty awesome.
Dub. But yes, awesome to hear! Getting me that Apocalypto experience!
Not sure if it's been mentioned/confirmed on here yet, but Prey is coming to Disney+ on August 5th.
Quote from: Doomofman on Jun 07, 2022, 03:22:49 PMQuote from: Corporal Hicks on Jun 07, 2022, 03:21:06 PMhttps://twitter.com/OhMyMithrandir/status/1534179060531732482
Not sure if these are official publicity shots or stills from the trailer, but they look good quality regardless.
I feel like they're screens from a high quality version of the trailer. Seeing the second pic in this quality made me finally notice the laser targeter on the mask
Yeah it's higher up than usual. I was wondering about that with the original teaser poster:
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FEAZ-ivWUAoKKF2?format=jpg&name=medium)
https://www.slashfilm.com/886754/prey-trailer-a-comanche-woman-hunts-a-predator-dan-trachtenberg-tells-us-about-his-prequel/
I love the new design of this Predator, however one thing is a little odd is how thin the dreadlocks are.
Being completely honest. I feel like I'd be all in if he throws that shield like captain America. Just say that it's an older smart disk so it flies around but I'm really excited to see what they do with the shield.
I remember talking about a shield for Hunting Grounds whether that was the Reddit or not, but I'm really amused that it will be a thing. Like I kind of want one.
QuoteBEYOND humbled & excited to officially announce that im starring as the predator in the upcoming @20thcenturystudios film PREY - landing on earth august 5th.
it's been a wild journey since moving to LA a few years ago, and to be fortunate enough to be involved with a project such as this is miraculous, to say the least. everyone involved worked very hard on this and im excited to show the world what we've created. keep your eyes peeled and watch your back - try to stay cool /_\
Quotedakota_beavers Man.... I am so honored to have been a part of this. @ambermidthunder kills it, and @dannytrs and @thejhane were the best bosses a guy fresh off the turnip truck could ask for. Lol. August 5th! Yautja is coming....
https://twitter.com/therealKripke/status/1534378077974937601 (https://twitter.com/therealKripke/status/1534378077974937601)
Quote from: ace3g on Jun 08, 2022, 02:18:25 AMhttps://www.instagram.com/p/CegoH8dAQSF/
QuoteBEYOND humbled & excited to officially announce that im starring as the predator in the upcoming @20thcenturystudios film PREY - landing on earth august 5th.
it's been a wild journey since moving to LA a few years ago, and to be fortunate enough to be involved with a project such as this is miraculous, to say the least. everyone involved worked very hard on this and im excited to show the world what we've created. keep your eyes peeled and watch your back - try to stay cool /_\
Quotedakota_beavers Man.... I am so honored to have been a part of this. @ambermidthunder kills it, and @dannytrs and @thejhane were the best bosses a guy fresh off the turnip truck could ask for. Lol. August 5th! Yautja is coming....
guess we have our predator now
Quote from: von on Jun 08, 2022, 05:46:22 AMhttps://twitter.com/therealKripke/status/1534378077974937601 (https://twitter.com/therealKripke/status/1534378077974937601)
Now that's endorsement! (I f**king love The Boys).
Some more new fan art:
https://twitter.com/jolousDA/status/1534133772249186306
https://twitter.com/vodmorte/status/1534248580239699968
Yeah still don't know how he sees
Quote from: Doomofman on Jun 08, 2022, 10:27:17 AMYeah still don't know how he sees
If they can travel space I'm pretty sure they can have electronic viewfinders.
Not the first mask without eye holes either, there's been a few:
(https://bbts1.azureedge.net/images/p/full/2017/01/49093177-87d0-46dc-8e8e-61d558588f04.jpg)
(https://cdnb.artstation.com/p/assets/images/images/032/431/249/4k/matthew-hatfield-illfonicpredator-mask2.jpg?1606411036)
(https://cdnb.artstation.com/p/assets/images/images/032/431/237/4k/matthew-hatfield-illfonicpredator-mask.jpg?1606411023)
(https://preview.redd.it/zxf9w76f1xh61.png?width=640&crop=smart&auto=webp&s=8295e0963634968efd0bc091e8cdaeaae83fb126)
Well, at least, second, third and fourth ones still jave some "holes" where eyes are supposed to be on them so one can assume there's some amount of light coming inside. The AvP 2010 one confuses the shit out of me
It's funny, taking away the eyes makes it feel more alien immediately, an idea likely unconsciously paralleling to the Alien.
https://www.facebook.com/DisneyPlusUK/videos/726034805373837
Disney+ UK just shared the trailer saying that Prey is coming to Disney+ on August 5th. Looks like that's that confirmed then. Worldwide release, on Disney+ internationally.
Quote from: Corporal Hicks on Jun 08, 2022, 01:22:12 PMhttps://www.facebook.com/DisneyPlusUK/videos/726034805373837
Disney+ UK just shared the trailer saying that Prey is coming to Disney+ on August 5th. Looks like that's that confirmed then. Worldwide release, on Disney+ internationally.
Nice to finally see an official source post it. It was always likely to be the case but the lack of an official post before now was a bit confusing
Where is opening for eyes in this bone over mask setup ?
Quote from: Corporal Hicks on Jun 08, 2022, 01:22:12 PMhttps://www.facebook.com/DisneyPlusUK/videos/726034805373837
Disney+ UK just shared the trailer saying that Prey is coming to Disney+ on August 5th. Looks like that's that confirmed then. Worldwide release, on Disney+ internationally.
hopefully later down the line we could maybe get a 4k blu ray release ? ( please !)
Is that a custom Feral Predator toy? Was that the Cougar parasite on its face?
Quote from: Preddie-nokas on Jun 08, 2022, 01:54:49 PMWhere is opening for eyes in this bone over mask setup ?
I see a lot of comments like this, use your imagination. A species this technologically advanced probably has it covered by their technology.
The mask might be blocking some of its sight but it may be similar to the picture of the figurine above, where you can see the eyes from the side and in decent lighting. He'll be a'ight.
Quote from: PredBabe on Jun 08, 2022, 02:42:33 PMThe mask might be blocking some of its sight but it may be similar to the picture of the figurine above, where you can see the eyes from the side and in decent lighting. He'll be a'ight.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FWsnPx0wgcw
I get the whole 'technology is advanced far enough that they don't need eye holes' thing but I don't like it all the same.
This predator is the earliest we've seen in a movie by like 300 years yet is the first to not need lens in the mask to see(unless I'm really forgetting someone)? That just seems a bit odd to me
Maybe the Predator is blind. Like Zatoichi.
new footage included! new decloaking effect and netgun! edit: sorry, not a netgun but it's just a shot of the cloaked predator pouncing at a human.
https://twitter.com/Predator/status/1534565921439768577 (https://twitter.com/Predator/status/1534565921439768577)
Looks superb, love the look of the wristblades, and he looks very nicely lean in that cave shot.
Quote from: von on Jun 08, 2022, 04:58:17 PMnew footage included! new decloaking effect and net gun!
https://twitter.com/Predator/status/1534565921439768577 (https://twitter.com/Predator/status/1534565921439768577)
Netgun? Did I miss it? Where?
Quote from: BlueMarsalis79 on Jun 08, 2022, 05:14:30 PMLooks superb, love the look of the wristblades, and he looks very nicely lean in that cave shot.
Yep, it gives me KPH vibes. :)
(https://i.ibb.co/vmH4FGq/IMG-20220608-143720.jpg)
Being able to only see the wristblades, while everything else is cloaked, is terrifying! Glad they went that route again. That cave shot!
The wider vid that was released shows the Pred pushing the human down. Also, is the Feral Predator protecting the humans, claiming them as his own, from the wildlife? We see him protect the girl from the Bear and now a wolf.
No net gun in sight confirmed. The cave shot is amazing !
Quote from: Master Chief on Jun 08, 2022, 06:49:47 PMBeing able to only see the wristblades, while everything else is cloaked, is terrifying! Glad they went that route again. That cave shot!
The wider vid that was released shows the Pred pushing the human down. Also, is the Feral Predator protecting the humans, claiming them as his own, from the wildlife? We see him protect the girl from the Bear and now a wolf.
Where did you see a wolf ?
Quote from: Master Chief on Jun 08, 2022, 06:49:47 PMBeing able to only see the wristblades, while everything else is cloaked, is terrifying! Glad they went that route again. That cave shot!
The wider vid that was released shows the Pred pushing the human down. Also, is the Feral Predator protecting the humans, claiming them as his own, from the wildlife? We see him protect the girl from the Bear and now a wolf.
I don't think he saw her with the bear. She's in water which might obscure his vision and the bear is in front of of her.
Possibly, but I'm sure the Predator was watching Naru shooting at the bear and being chased. We'll see.
Quote from: BigDaddyJohn on Jun 08, 2022, 07:27:19 PMNo net gun in sight confirmed. The cave shot is amazing !
Quote from: Master Chief on Jun 08, 2022, 06:49:47 PMBeing able to only see the wristblades, while everything else is cloaked, is terrifying! Glad they went that route again. That cave shot!
The wider vid that was released shows the Pred pushing the human down. Also, is the Feral Predator protecting the humans, claiming them as his own, from the wildlife? We see him protect the girl from the Bear and now a wolf.
Where did you see a wolf ?
Check out wide version here and one can see it's the Predator pushing the human down and possibly running ahead of them to confront the wolf.
https://www.avpgalaxy.net/2022/06/08/new-prey-promo-video-shows-more-predator-action/
Quote from: Master Chief on Jun 08, 2022, 07:42:37 PMPossibly, but I'm sure the Predator was watching Naru shooting at the bear and being chased. We'll see.
Quote from: BigDaddyJohn on Jun 08, 2022, 07:27:19 PMNo net gun in sight confirmed. The cave shot is amazing !
Quote from: Master Chief on Jun 08, 2022, 06:49:47 PMBeing able to only see the wristblades, while everything else is cloaked, is terrifying! Glad they went that route again. That cave shot!
The wider vid that was released shows the Pred pushing the human down. Also, is the Feral Predator protecting the humans, claiming them as his own, from the wildlife? We see him protect the girl from the Bear and now a wolf.
Where did you see a wolf ?
Check out wide version here and one can see it's the Predator pushing the human down and possibly running ahead of them to confront the wolf.
https://www.avpgalaxy.net/2022/06/08/new-prey-promo-video-shows-more-predator-action/
I see the wolf/dog, but I don't see a human.
The 20 second mark.
Ah ok, you mean that scene. But as reported by someone else earlier, if you look frame by frame, you can see blood squirt on the right side of the screen, so I think the predator is attacking him.
Quote from: Voodoo Magic on Jun 08, 2022, 06:40:22 PMQuote from: von on Jun 08, 2022, 04:58:17 PMnew footage included! new decloaking effect and net gun!
https://twitter.com/Predator/status/1534565921439768577 (https://twitter.com/Predator/status/1534565921439768577)
Netgun? Did I miss it? Where?
It's not a net gun.
Looks like the Pred jumped on the guy and dragged him down into the tall grass.
Can see why they're calling him feral.
Bloody brilliant stuff.
Well trailers don't mean jack shit to me. Fact is that all predator included avp movies looked good and I remembered how everyone was hyped whenever a trailer dropped for those movies, but then when the movies came out, they all turned out to suck. Fact is that we haven't got any good predator movie since predator 2. I'm definitely going to watch this movie but I'm going in prepared to turn off the movie I just don't know when. And what is it with directors wanting to change things? Why change a winning concept? They all tried that after predator 2 and look how it went 👎🏽
(https://i.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/original/001/303/821/f9a.jpg)
Wanting to change things is a normal thing I guess, as long as it stays somewhat true to what makes predator what it is.
Not enough new stuff could lead to a simple rehash of the first movie, and could feel very bland and uninteresting. To avoid that, you have to have some changes. Not necessarily radical ones, but changes nonetheless.
Too little changes you get Predators, too many you get The Predator.
What would be considered "a radical change" ?
Quote from: Kradan on Jun 09, 2022, 11:59:56 AMWhat would be considered "a radical change" ?
Giant predators
Predators making a mech suit for humans
Super powered autism
Predators being part human
etc etc etc
Predator with mixed human blood, super preds, giant pred, bulky preds, to many preds at once and so on and on and on. That is not a winning concept.
Yep, pretty much. The changes I see in the trailer I like very much for now. But I know I'm watching a predator movie still.
No, no, no, what I meant was what would be considered "a radical change" apart from things introduced in The Predator because I seriously doubt we'll see any of that in the new movie
Quote from: Kradan on Jun 09, 2022, 11:59:56 AMWhat would be considered "a radical change" ?
Radical to me as far as the creature itself is not being able to tell immediately what it is. Predator has a few very specific design decisions.
- 4 mandibles (one or more may be damaged or missing but it must be from combat)
- Dreadlocks
- Some form of facial protection commonly being an armored mask or an exoskeletal structure like bones or thick hide
- Physically humanoid in body shape, essentially that a human could physically portray them without CGI. No holes in the body structure, it's someone in a suit. (this bars Assassin due to sheer scale as there's no holes in his body shape, but is physically impossible to portray as a man in a suit)
- Vaguely reptilian. Not exactly mammals, not exactly reptiles, but skin texture tends to lean towards reptile.
I've probably missed a few things but every Predator has hit those notes barring Assassin and that's simply because you physically can't do a suit that big. And given ADI has worked on all but one modern Predator I have faith they know what they're doing. We're going to get something different but it's not like we're getting these things.
(https://i.pinimg.com/originals/c6/41/41/c64141edff4e37b0957ccd4b39161242.jpg)
(https://www.therpf.com/forums/media/predator-early-stan-winston-concept.64471/full?d=1550511840)
Im really excited for Prey
Quotestefany_mathias
✊🏼 #repost Posted • @1minutecritic Calling all @predator fans! #PreyMovie hits Hulu (Disney+ in Canada) August 5, but we NEED to get this movie into theaters. Join me in calling on @20thcenturystudios and @disneystudios to get Prey onto the BIG SCREEN! @dannytrs @hulu @ambermidthunder @dd @dakota_beavers @stefany_mathias
Use the hashtag:
#PREYforTheatricalRelease
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New cast/crew listing
Nelson Leis ... Waxed Mustache
Quote from: Lionhart on Jun 09, 2022, 08:45:12 AMWell trailers don't mean jack shit to me. Fact is that all predator included avp movies looked good and I remembered how everyone was hyped whenever a trailer dropped for those movies, but then when the movies came out, they all turned out to suck. Fact is that we haven't got any good predator movie since predator 2. I'm definitely going to watch this movie but I'm going in prepared to turn off the movie I just don't know when. And what is it with directors wanting to change things? Why change a winning concept? They all tried that after predator 2 and look how it went 👎🏽
if youre going in prepared to turn off the tv (which, im willing to bet you wont regardless), you might as well just not watch it.. what a shameful way to watch a movie, with turning off the tv on your mind.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JrHmMtOP0EoLooks like the Portuguese title for the film is Predator: The First Prey.
Quote from: Corporal Hicks on Jun 10, 2022, 07:42:17 AMPredator: The First Prey.
(https://media3.giphy.com/media/WRp58hy5gmfjpMzHAZ/200.gif)
I actually like it. I love some of the non-English titles for the films.
Cool to see the franchise logo in that stone look:
(https://i.imgur.com/chQcuCv.jpg)
PredaDor ;D
It's a very active tag on IG.
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Quote from: hoffmanstokes on Jun 10, 2022, 02:47:07 AMQuote from: Lionhart on Jun 09, 2022, 08:45:12 AMWell trailers don't mean jack shit to me. Fact is that all predator included avp movies looked good and I remembered how everyone was hyped whenever a trailer dropped for those movies, but then when the movies came out, they all turned out to suck. Fact is that we haven't got any good predator movie since predator 2. I'm definitely going to watch this movie but I'm going in prepared to turn off the movie I just don't know when. And what is it with directors wanting to change things? Why change a winning concept? They all tried that after predator 2 and look how it went 👎🏽
if youre going in prepared to turn off the tv (which, im willing to bet you wont regardless), you might as well just not watch it.. what a shameful way to watch a movie, with turning off the tv on your mind.
Well, shamefull or not, I ain't wasting energy to watch a full movie if I notice that the movie is garbage 30 min into the film, that being said, I might be surprised but my hopes ain't high, specially after what we got in 2010 and 2018.
Thinking of that last scene in the trailer where the predator leaps at Naru, I truly hope they don't overuse CGI, and that the quality of it is superior to the horrendous rendition of the upgrade in The Predator.
Quote from: Kradan on Jun 10, 2022, 09:01:29 AMPredaDor ;D
That's how it's said in some other languages, including mine
Quote from: Lionhart on Jun 10, 2022, 02:25:03 PMQuote from: hoffmanstokes on Jun 10, 2022, 02:47:07 AMQuote from: Lionhart on Jun 09, 2022, 08:45:12 AMWell trailers don't mean jack shit to me. Fact is that all predator included avp movies looked good and I remembered how everyone was hyped whenever a trailer dropped for those movies, but then when the movies came out, they all turned out to suck. Fact is that we haven't got any good predator movie since predator 2. I'm definitely going to watch this movie but I'm going in prepared to turn off the movie I just don't know when. And what is it with directors wanting to change things? Why change a winning concept? They all tried that after predator 2 and look how it went 👎🏽
if youre going in prepared to turn off the tv (which, im willing to bet you wont regardless), you might as well just not watch it.. what a shameful way to watch a movie, with turning off the tv on your mind.
Well, shamefull or not, I ain't wasting energy to watch a full movie if I notice that the movie is garbage 30 min into the film, that being said, I might be surprised but my hopes ain't high, specially after what we got in 2010 and 2018.
Did you finish those movies or did you walk out/turn off the tv?
I say, stick it out. You've made it this far. ;)
Quote from: Master Chief on Jun 10, 2022, 07:49:48 PMQuote from: Lionhart on Jun 10, 2022, 02:25:03 PMQuote from: hoffmanstokes on Jun 10, 2022, 02:47:07 AMQuote from: Lionhart on Jun 09, 2022, 08:45:12 AMWell trailers don't mean jack shit to me. Fact is that all predator included avp movies looked good and I remembered how everyone was hyped whenever a trailer dropped for those movies, but then when the movies came out, they all turned out to suck. Fact is that we haven't got any good predator movie since predator 2. I'm definitely going to watch this movie but I'm going in prepared to turn off the movie I just don't know when. And what is it with directors wanting to change things? Why change a winning concept? They all tried that after predator 2 and look how it went 👎🏽
if youre going in prepared to turn off the tv (which, im willing to bet you wont regardless), you might as well just not watch it.. what a shameful way to watch a movie, with turning off the tv on your mind.
Well, shamefull or not, I ain't wasting energy to watch a full movie if I notice that the movie is garbage 30 min into the film, that being said, I might be surprised but my hopes ain't high, specially after what we got in 2010 and 2018.
Did you finish those movies or did you walk out/turn off the tv?
I say, stick it out. You've made it this far. ;)
I finished them unfortunately. I fell asleep at the theater during Predator 2018 I had to re-watch it when it came out on blu-ray, huge mistake that I spent energy on that garbage movie.
New cast listing from IMDb
Troy Mundle ... Spyglass
Crew listings:
Chris Terhune ... Supervising Sound Editor / re-recording mixer
John Charles Manning ... Set Lighting Technician
Really good piece on ScreenHub reminding folk about the long history of diversity in the series in the wake of all the Critical Drinker/woke commentary.
https://screenhub.blog/2022/06/13/the-predator-movies-have-always-been-woke-screenhub-entertainment/
Quote from: Corporal Hicks on Jun 14, 2022, 08:53:14 AMReally good piece on ScreenHub reminding folk about the long history of diversity in the series in the wake of all the Critical Drinker/woke commentary.
https://screenhub.blog/2022/06/13/the-predator-movies-have-always-been-woke-screenhub-entertainment/
The best part for my money:
"Some may read this article and scoff. You may say that these earlier examples are different than Prey because earlier Predator films weren't made with an agenda, but what have we seen up to this point? The monster was itself brought to life by a black man, the films feature diverse casts, have already featured leads that were people of color and women, and the series has gone so far as to show primarily people of color and women (Harrigan, Noguchi, and Lex) shown open respect by Predator tribes. So what has changed? Not the Predator series. What has changed is now there is a cult of content creators who are telling you, the viewer, that you're supposed to be angry. Had such content creators been around when any of the above examples were released, Danny Glover would have been called a diversity hire, Noguchi and Lex would have been called 'woke propaganda' and the series would have been subject to innumerable such criticisms as ugly as they were pitiful."
Quote from: BlueMarsalis79 on Jun 14, 2022, 11:29:30 AMQuote from: Corporal Hicks on Jun 14, 2022, 08:53:14 AMReally good piece on ScreenHub reminding folk about the long history of diversity in the series in the wake of all the Critical Drinker/woke commentary.
https://screenhub.blog/2022/06/13/the-predator-movies-have-always-been-woke-screenhub-entertainment/
The best part for my money:
"Some may read this article and scoff. You may say that these earlier examples are different than Prey because earlier Predator films weren't made with an agenda, but what have we seen up to this point? The monster was itself brought to life by a black man, the films feature diverse casts, have already featured leads that were people of color and women, and the series has gone so far as to show primarily people of color and women (Harrigan, Noguchi, and Lex) shown open respect by Predator tribes. So what has changed? Not the Predator series. What has changed is now there is a cult of content creators who are telling you, the viewer, that you're supposed to be angry. Had such content creators been around when any of the above examples were released, Danny Glover would have been called a diversity hire, Noguchi and Lex would have been called 'woke propaganda' and the series would have been subject to innumerable such criticisms as ugly as they were pitiful."
Finally, some sanity. I really don't get where people are coming from with this woke accusation, simply because the mains are indigenous. All the main women in the movies thus far have been POC or non-Wasp - sorry if the term offends. The entire casts have almost always been extremely diverse also. What a strange thing to complain about and not based in reality.
Anyway, can't wait to see Waxed Mustache and Spyglass.
Quote from: Wysps on Jun 14, 2022, 01:28:32 PMQuote from: BlueMarsalis79 on Jun 14, 2022, 11:29:30 AMQuote from: Corporal Hicks on Jun 14, 2022, 08:53:14 AMReally good piece on ScreenHub reminding folk about the long history of diversity in the series in the wake of all the Critical Drinker/woke commentary.
https://screenhub.blog/2022/06/13/the-predator-movies-have-always-been-woke-screenhub-entertainment/
The best part for my money:
"Some may read this article and scoff. You may say that these earlier examples are different than Prey because earlier Predator films weren't made with an agenda, but what have we seen up to this point? The monster was itself brought to life by a black man, the films feature diverse casts, have already featured leads that were people of color and women, and the series has gone so far as to show primarily people of color and women (Harrigan, Noguchi, and Lex) shown open respect by Predator tribes. So what has changed? Not the Predator series. What has changed is now there is a cult of content creators who are telling you, the viewer, that you're supposed to be angry. Had such content creators been around when any of the above examples were released, Danny Glover would have been called a diversity hire, Noguchi and Lex would have been called 'woke propaganda' and the series would have been subject to innumerable such criticisms as ugly as they were pitiful."
Finally, some sanity. I really don't get where people are coming from with this woke accusation, simply because the mains are indigenous. All the main women in the movies thus far have been POC or non-Wasp - sorry if the term offends. The entire casts have almost always been extremely diverse also. What a strange thing to complain about and not based in reality.
Anyway, can't wait to see Waxed Mustache and Spyglass.
I think a lot of the "woke" accusations for this stem purely from the fact that it's a young woman facing off against an elite-tier Alien hunter with vastly advanced technology.
The director has already confirmed no Plasma Caster so the massive advantage the Pred has has been chalked off. The only major (unfair?) advantage left is the cloaking system. But given how good the Native American peoples were at hunting (not to mention the almost supernatural/spiritual sixth sense they're almost always depicted as having) these huge advantages get smaller and smaller.
One v one, would a Pred eviscerate Some "lowly" non-hunter from an historic war tribe? Absolutely - but it'd do so regardless of what genitals they had.
If the Pred was purely about ganking the goodies with no suspension of disbelief then what'd be the point of the film/series?
The sooner these baseless accusations of "Wokeness" f**k off the World will be a better place - nevermind Hollywood.
I think people are also ignoring that nearly every time a predator is killed it's typically without any advanced weaponry. The only predator killed by a 'modern' weapon was in predators, with the exception of the upgrade predator in The Predator, who was technically killed by 'primitive' tech launched from an advanced system. Any argument that indigenous people wouldn't survive against an advance species falls flat, they are probably the most capable. Their primary means of combat are directly suited for the predator and its honor system, as well as their style of their hand to hand weapons. I'm eager to see if the Feral predator maintains an honor system and wether the Comanche would counter that potential knowledge.
Quote from: funk_master_chunk on Jun 14, 2022, 03:02:36 PMI think a lot of the "woke" accusations for this stem purely from the fact that it's a young woman facing off against an elite-tier Alien hunter with vastly advanced technology.
What happens when you replace her with David, and the Predator with Goliath? Couldn't the concept still be the same regardless of gender?
David goes full Riddick and kills the Predator with a teacup.
(https://78.media.tumblr.com/0232ebabdd30b82848a1741a37e094d1/tumblr_or9ba8AuBs1s01gf9o1_500.gif)
Quote from: Mike's Monsters on Jun 15, 2022, 07:51:35 AMQuote from: funk_master_chunk on Jun 14, 2022, 03:02:36 PMI think a lot of the "woke" accusations for this stem purely from the fact that it's a young woman facing off against an elite-tier Alien hunter with vastly advanced technology.
What happens when you replace her with David, and the Predator with Goliath? Couldn't the concept still be the same regardless of gender?
Absolutely - but the masses wouldn't claim wokeness as that trope is infinitely more acceptable.
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Could a pregnant woman kill the whole Predator planet because they can't touch her due to her pregnancy?
Touching is fine, hunting is a no. They could still restrain her.
Pretty sure if she had something that could threaten them seriously on their ground they'd f**k her up quick.
New cast listing on IMDb
Mike Paterson ... Big Beard
Crew
Miguel Valcarce Garcia ... visual effects artist
What is so wrong with wokeness and why do some people have a problem with it? Becoming more diverse and empathetic to other groups of people and genders is how society moves forward. A better more inclusive future.
The problem is not with diversity and emphaty. The problem is with it being forced.
And then you ask how and where it's being "forced" and people usually just give examples of "literally anything other than a straight white man being a lead" and you realise the whole anti-"woke" brigade is a bunch of pearl-clutching pissants.
Quote from: shadowedge on Jun 18, 2022, 03:54:59 AMWhat is so wrong with wokeness and why do some people have a problem with it? Becoming more diverse and empathetic to other groups of people and genders is how society moves forward. A better more inclusive future.
Problem is because 50 kg primitive girl cannot defeat 200 kg high tech alien. It is just stupid.
Why not? Dutch defeated it out of pure luck and using essentially primitive weaponry.
Just to pre-empt the response...
"Yeah, but he's a strong muscular dude who lifted that log up there."
That kind of retort is missing the intent behind the end of Predator. It was about going back to the primitive, it was about using that Boy Scout stuff to defeat the Predator. And that primitive, back to nature, kind of mentality doesn't have to be lifting a log in to a tree.
Dutch's strength and weapons counted for nothing. It was his ingenuity and quick thinking that saved him, things accessible to all humans for all history.
Quote from: Corporal Hicks on Jun 18, 2022, 09:12:55 AMJust to pre-empt the response...
"Yeah, but he's a strong muscular dude who lifted that log up there."
That kind of retort is missing the intent behind the end of Predator. It was about going back to the primitive, it was about using that Boy Scout stuff to defeat the Predator. And that primitive, back to nature, kind of mentality doesn't have to be lifting a log in to a tree.
It was less specifically "boy-scout stuff" and more Viet Cong guerrilla stuff -- Poncho says to Dutch earlier in the film "Remember Vietnam?" and Dutch's response is that he tries to forget it. But he wins against the Predator by
remembering Vietnam, and the specific tactics of the Viet Cong, especially with regard to using primitive weapons and traps that are made of wood. He
remembers what it's like to be one with the lesser technology, but the greater local knowledge.
The Viet Cong used to make traps out of wood/bamboo so the US troops couldn't detect them. Really nasty stuff too (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NLF_and_PAVN_battle_tactics#Booby_traps_and_mines).
Yes, Dutch was a big guy, and a professional soldier and knew how to fight, but like
@SiL and
@BlueMarsalis79 point out, intelligence and situational awareness and resourcefulness (and a pinch of luck) is what you need to take out a Predator.
Quote from: Preddie-nokas on Jun 18, 2022, 08:34:58 AMProblem is because 50 kg primitive girl cannot defeat 200 kg high tech alien. It is just stupid.
It's a failure of imagination to make this statement. Or insecurity. If the script is solid and the direction good, there's no reason this not only can't be plausible, but actually
heroic and
awesome.
Quote from: NecronomIV on Jun 18, 2022, 11:00:00 AMIt was less specifically "boy-scout stuff" and more Viet Cong guerrilla stuff -- Poncho says to Dutch earlier in the film "Remember Vietnam?" and Dutch's response is that he tries to forget it. But he wins against the Predator by remembering Vietnam, and the specific tactics of the Viet Cong, especially with regard to using primitive weapons and traps that are made of wood. He remembers what it's like to be one with the lesser technology, but the greater local knowledge.
I think I can honestly say I don't think I've ever seen anyone make that connection to the Vietcong. I was calling out the Boy Scout aspect, as that's what Dillon specifically says while Dutch is setting up those initial traps. But I really do like that take on it, NecronomIV.
Doesn't Poncho say 'Remember Afghanistan?' rather than Vietnam?
Quote from: Corporal Hicks on Jun 18, 2022, 11:11:44 AMQuote from: NecronomIV on Jun 18, 2022, 11:00:00 AMIt was less specifically "boy-scout stuff" and more Viet Cong guerrilla stuff -- Poncho says to Dutch earlier in the film "Remember Vietnam?" and Dutch's response is that he tries to forget it. But he wins against the Predator by remembering Vietnam, and the specific tactics of the Viet Cong, especially with regard to using primitive weapons and traps that are made of wood. He remembers what it's like to be one with the lesser technology, but the greater local knowledge.
I think I can honestly say I don't think I've ever seen anyone make that connection to the Vietcong. I was calling out the Boy Scout aspect, as that's what Dillon specifically says while Dutch is setting up those initial traps. But I really do like that take on it, NecronomIV.
TBH I feel a bit of a dunce about it -- I'd been researching VC and Vietnam recently for an essay series I write for a hobby, and then happened to watch Predator and the penny dropped. Only 30 or more years after I watched it for the first time!!
Predator is actually a really smart film. Do you know if anyone has done a deep-dive or a serious critical look at the film?
Quote from: TheBATMAN on Jun 18, 2022, 11:26:16 AMDoesn't Poncho say 'Remember Afghanistan?' rather than Vietnam?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UzaqrzlEzz8But I think I still remember someone mentioning Vietnam... regardless I really like the analysis, Necronom. It's not a stretch at all that Dutch lived through that war considering he's a Major.
Dillon and Dutch have that special gifted lighter from Vietnam.
Blain and Mac were in Vietnam together as well, I believe.
There's nothing woke about a girl defeating a Predator with a well placed trap. It's about outsmarting the Predator not overpowering it. It's not like they're gonna have her beat him with nothing but a tomahawk.
Quote from: Preddie-nokas on Jun 18, 2022, 08:34:58 AMQuote from: shadowedge on Jun 18, 2022, 03:54:59 AMWhat is so wrong with wokeness and why do some people have a problem with it? Becoming more diverse and empathetic to other groups of people and genders is how society moves forward. A better more inclusive future.
Problem is because 50 kg primitive girl cannot defeat 200 kg high tech alien. It is just stupid.
might want to turn on your sound and watch the trailer again..
she quite literally says it - "it knows how to hunt, i know how to survive"
predator is in her hood. she's not some cia agent pushing too many pencils. she's comanche. surviving in the woods is what she does.
Quote from: SiL on Jun 18, 2022, 09:57:07 AMDutch's strength and weapons counted for nothing. It was his ingenuity and quick thinking that saved him, things accessible to all humans for all history.
Quote from: Jigsaw85 on Jun 18, 2022, 05:00:32 PMThere's nothing woke about a girl defeating a Predator with a well placed trap. It's about outsmarting the Predator not overpowering it. It's not like they're gonna have her beat him with nothing but a tomahawk.
It is very wrong to assume Dutch's strength and weapons counted for nothing. We can analyze final battle.
Dutch had explosive-tipped arrow, not some primitive wood arrow, and Dutch wounded Predator which was clear by Predator's green blood which could be seen on many stones in the final battle. After that Predator caught Dutch and melee fight started. Dutch received severe beating from Predator, I am sure 50 kg teen girl would die from the beating alone. Dutch 120 kg muscular frame was the reason he endured those hits, stayed alive and reached the trap. Finally, 200kg+ log was lifted by Dutch muscles, Comanche teen girl wouldn't be able to do it.
Let's analyze Predator 2. Harrigan first severely wounded Predator from the shotgun in the slaughterhouse, with several bullets. This is much more powerful than any wooded arrow. Predator survived direct shotgun bullet hits which just proves how resilient they are. After that, on the roof Harrigan pushed Predator which was hanging from the building by holding Harrigan's arm. 50 kg teen girl couldn't push 200 kg Predator, nor she could hold Predator weight on the roof. She would just fell and died. Harrigan was even taller then Dutch, little bit lighter in weight, but above average man in every case.
I'll be quick with Predators, of 3 of them, 2 were defeated by men, and last one mostly from man with the help of Isabelle's sniper bullet. Royce wasn't strong as Dutch, but was very fast, agile, and overall tough for his build. 50 kg teen girl couldn't physically do what Royce did, couldn't even decapitate Predator.
Quote from: NecronomIV on Jun 18, 2022, 11:00:00 AMQuote from: Preddie-nokas on Jun 18, 2022, 08:34:58 AMProblem is because 50 kg primitive girl cannot defeat 200 kg high tech alien. It is just stupid.
It's a failure of imagination to make this statement. Or insecurity. If the script is solid and the direction good, there's no reason this not only can't be plausible, but actually heroic and awesome.
No, it is not failure of imagination, yes humans can be very smart, but athleticism and physicality are very important, brain gave as an edge with technology we made, but if we have primitive weapons against physically and technologically more dominant enemy there is a limit where our craftiness can bring us. I just cannot imagine how primitive teen girl will defeat Predator who toyed with elite military units.
You can also check sport, when 15-year old boys teams in soccer or basketball are always easily winning women national teams. Even Phil Jackson told that.
https://www.slamonline.com/archives/phil-jackson-on-women-in-nba-no-way/
"When Jackson ran a youth basketball camp in Montana early in his coaching career,
he recalls pitting a state champion high school girls team against a group of middle-school boys who had never played together. The outcome of the game was so one-sided in favor of the boys that it has stuck in Jackson's mind ever since. '(The girls) were all four to six inches bigger than these boys, and they got beat by 40 points,' Jackson said. 'It was one of those things that opened my eyes to the differences. Even though the girls had skill and knowledge as a group and the boys hadn't played together, they just trapped and pressed and did all kinds of things that changed the game "
Dutch ran out of weapons without doing anything more than scratch the Predator and deactivate one weapon. The Predator was more than able to beat him to death immediately; it was clearly toying with Dutch.
So yes, his weapons and strength counted for nothing in the end. It was his quick thinking that saved him and defeated the Predator.
That's the whole point of the story. Getting back to your wild nature and survival skills in order to... survive. Perfect fit for the next movie.
Of course execution could ruin it, but so far I'm excited with what I saw ;D
Quote from: Preddie-nokas on Jun 19, 2022, 09:31:51 AMQuote from: NecronomIV on Jun 18, 2022, 11:00:00 AMIt's a failure of imagination to make this statement. Or insecurity. If the script is solid and the direction good, there's no reason this not only can't be plausible, but actually heroic and awesome.
No, it is not failure of imagination, yes humans can be very smart, but athleticism and physicality are very important, brain gave as an edge with technology we made, but if we have primitive weapons against physically and technologically more dominant enemy there is a limit where our craftiness can bring us. I just cannot imagine how primitive teen girl will defeat Predator who toyed with elite military units.
You just wrote:
"No, it is not a failure of imagination ... "
Followed by:
"I just cannot imagine ..."
Quote from: Preddie-nokas on Jun 19, 2022, 09:31:51 AMYou can also check sport, when 15-year old boys teams in soccer or basketball are always easily winning women national teams. Even Phil Jackson told that.
https://www.slamonline.com/archives/phil-jackson-on-women-in-nba-no-way/
"When Jackson ran a youth basketball camp in Montana early in his coaching career, he recalls pitting a state champion high school girls team against a group of middle-school boys who had never played together. The outcome of the game was so one-sided in favor of the boys that it has stuck in Jackson's mind ever since. '(The girls) were all four to six inches bigger than these boys, and they got beat by 40 points,' Jackson said. 'It was one of those things that opened my eyes to the differences. Even though the girls had skill and knowledge as a group and the boys hadn't played together, they just trapped and pressed and did all kinds of things that changed the game "
You're saying that it is possible for a younger, lighter, less experienced group of human individuals to win a game playing against seasoned, older, heavier individuals.
So then it follows that a younger, lighter and possibly less experienced human could beat a seasoned, older and heavier Predator, yes?
(Nb: it's about tactics - less experienced chess players can flummox and defeat seasoned professional chess players because they play in a way that isn't the conventional "correct" way. Probably one large factor in the game example is the boys hadn't played together, so they might well have had quite a random and unorthodox play style. Make mistakes and win the game!)
I guess he was saying that a lighter man is still physically stronger than a heavier woman generally, which is mostly true. A 65kg male boxer generally hits harder than a 70kg female boxer.
There are exceptions though, and if the weight gap is huge in favor of the woman, it can sometimes nullify this fact. Still, skills, resilience, ruse, knowledge of the terrain should be keys in order to survive in this movie.
Quote from: Preddie-nokas on Jun 19, 2022, 09:31:51 AMNo, it is not failure of imagination, yes humans can be very smart, but athleticism and physicality are very important, brain gave as an edge with technology we made, but if we have primitive weapons against physically and technologically more dominant enemy there is a limit where our craftiness can bring us. I just cannot imagine how primitive teen girl will defeat Predator who toyed with elite military units.
You can also check sport, when 15-year old boys teams in soccer or basketball are always easily winning women national teams. Even Phil Jackson told that.
https://www.slamonline.com/archives/phil-jackson-on-women-in-nba-no-way/
"When Jackson ran a youth basketball camp in Montana early in his coaching career, he recalls pitting a state champion high school girls team against a group of middle-school boys who had never played together. The outcome of the game was so one-sided in favor of the boys that it has stuck in Jackson's mind ever since. '(The girls) were all four to six inches bigger than these boys, and they got beat by 40 points,' Jackson said. 'It was one of those things that opened my eyes to the differences. Even though the girls had skill and knowledge as a group and the boys hadn't played together, they just trapped and pressed and did all kinds of things that changed the game "
...
Are you trying to get kidnapped by the Predator from the last film?
Quote from: Preddie-nokas on Jun 19, 2022, 09:31:51 AMQuote from: SiL on Jun 18, 2022, 09:57:07 AMDutch's strength and weapons counted for nothing. It was his ingenuity and quick thinking that saved him, things accessible to all humans for all history.
Quote from: Jigsaw85 on Jun 18, 2022, 05:00:32 PMThere's nothing woke about a girl defeating a Predator with a well placed trap. It's about outsmarting the Predator not overpowering it. It's not like they're gonna have her beat him with nothing but a tomahawk.
It is very wrong to assume Dutch's strength and weapons counted for nothing. We can analyze final battle.
Dutch had explosive-tipped arrow, not some primitive wood arrow, and Dutch wounded Predator which was clear by Predator's green blood which could be seen on many stones in the final battle. After that Predator caught Dutch and melee fight started. Dutch received severe beating from Predator, I am sure 50 kg teen girl would die from the beating alone. Dutch 120 kg muscular frame was the reason he endured those hits, stayed alive and reached the trap. Finally, 200kg+ log was lifted by Dutch muscles, Comanche teen girl wouldn't be able to do it.
Let's analyze Predator 2. Harrigan first severely wounded Predator from the shotgun in the slaughterhouse, with several bullets. This is much more powerful than any wooded arrow. Predator survived direct shotgun bullet hits which just proves how resilient they are. After that, on the roof Harrigan pushed Predator which was hanging from the building by holding Harrigan's arm. 50 kg teen girl couldn't push 200 kg Predator, nor she could hold Predator weight on the roof. She would just fell and died. Harrigan was even taller then Dutch, little bit lighter in weight, but above average man in every case.
I'll be quick with Predators, of 3 of them, 2 were defeated by men, and last one mostly from man with the help of Isabelle's sniper bullet. Royce wasn't strong as Dutch, but was very fast, agile, and overall tough for his build. 50 kg teen girl couldn't physically do what Royce did, couldn't even decapitate Predator.
Quote from: NecronomIV on Jun 18, 2022, 11:00:00 AMQuote from: Preddie-nokas on Jun 18, 2022, 08:34:58 AMProblem is because 50 kg primitive girl cannot defeat 200 kg high tech alien. It is just stupid.
It's a failure of imagination to make this statement. Or insecurity. If the script is solid and the direction good, there's no reason this not only can't be plausible, but actually heroic and awesome.
No, it is not failure of imagination, yes humans can be very smart, but athleticism and physicality are very important, brain gave as an edge with technology we made, but if we have primitive weapons against physically and technologically more dominant enemy there is a limit where our craftiness can bring us. I just cannot imagine how primitive teen girl will defeat Predator who toyed with elite military units.
You can also check sport, when 15-year old boys teams in soccer or basketball are always easily winning women national teams. Even Phil Jackson told that.
https://www.slamonline.com/archives/phil-jackson-on-women-in-nba-no-way/
"When Jackson ran a youth basketball camp in Montana early in his coaching career, he recalls pitting a state champion high school girls team against a group of middle-school boys who had never played together. The outcome of the game was so one-sided in favor of the boys that it has stuck in Jackson's mind ever since. '(The girls) were all four to six inches bigger than these boys, and they got beat by 40 points,' Jackson said. 'It was one of those things that opened my eyes to the differences. Even though the girls had skill and knowledge as a group and the boys hadn't played together, they just trapped and pressed and did all kinds of things that changed the game "
The problem with your logic is that you are breaking down three films with three different scenarios. The girl doesn't have to do the same thing dutch did, she doesn't have to lift a log, and she doesn't have to get beat up by the predator before she can win. What if she just runs from him and leads him into trap after trap? Home Alone style. Get him so frustrated and angry that he can't think straight and charges right at her and falls into a punji stick trap. She wins without ever having to touch him.
Also fire, tar pits, wild fauna etc... So many things to do with this movie.
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Quote from: Preddie-nokas on Jun 19, 2022, 09:31:51 AMDutch had explosive-tipped arrow, not some primitive wood arrow, and Dutch wounded Predator which was clear by Predator's green blood which could be seen on many stones in the final battle.
Well we got gunpowder from French trappers and cast iron hand grenades were a thing back then, so how would you know if Naru wouldn't receive help from the surviving trappers in using the grenades or even gunpowder to make traps more lethal? Hell, they are trappers, they got iron bear traps they can use or something. Some kind of joint alliance to take down an enemy that threatens both sides? Could be possible.
Second of all, maybe poison or venom can be involved? Various native tribes use them for hunts so who's to say that she wouldn't use them either? Poison from plants or venom from snakes, perhaps a deadly combo of both on her spears and arrows? Combine this with knowledge of the terrain, traps, and perhaps gunpowder to enhance the lethality of both weapons and tactics and you can have an interesting battle of cat and mouse. To be fair, you did say you can't imagine how she can do it, so I don't blame you on this one for not imagining such scenarios.
Quote from: Preddie-nokas on Jun 19, 2022, 09:31:51 AMAfter that Predator caught Dutch and melee fight started. Dutch received severe beating from Predator, I am sure 50 kg teen girl would die from the beating alone.
Maybe she is smart enough not to get close to it, seeing how she witnessed how it lifted a bear, hunted her people, and the French trappers like nothing. Idk, it helps to know one's own weaknesses and not expose themselves like that. Maybe she figured it out that she can't get near it and must fight it from afar. Maybe it's just me.
Quote from: Preddie-nokas on Jun 19, 2022, 09:31:51 AMFinally, 200kg+ log was lifted by Dutch muscles, Comanche teen girl wouldn't be able to do it.
There is different types of traps, doesn't have to be a log. Spike traps are one example.
Quote from: Preddie-nokas on Jun 19, 2022, 09:31:51 AMYou can also check sport, when 15-year old boys teams in soccer or basketball are always easily winning women national teams. Even Phil Jackson told that.
If you want historical evidence of women native american warriors, I can tell you about Pine Leaf and Running Eagle as examples of women warriors who went hand to hand with seasoned male warriors of rival tribes and walked away with their scalps. I can even give you a quote about Pine Leaf by an American frontiersman about her abilities;
"I conceive it to be my duty to devote a few lines to the bravest woman that ever lived, namely, Pine Leaf – in Indian, Bar-chee-am-pe. For an Indian, she possessed great intellectual powers. She was endowed with extraordinary muscular strength, with the activity of the cat and the speed of an antelope. When I engaged in the fiercest struggles, no one was more promptly at my side than the young heroine. She seemed incapable of fear; and when she arrived at womanhood, could fire a gun without flinching, and use Indian weapons with as great dexterity as the most accomplished warrior." - James "Bloody Arm" Beckworth, American Frontiersman(https://images.squarespace-cdn.com/content/v1/5dc1ee8ec842b271464dc6ee/1619820729646-ZVLA6XV65G9YV74CAAMW/0620winborg_j_MightMane.jpg?format=1000w)
At the end of the day, there are ways to do this. It's not hard to understand that the most dangerous and powerful weapon someone can use against their foe is their mind. Mind over matter as the old saying goes.
Quote from: Mr.Turok on Jun 21, 2022, 03:57:00 PMIf you want historical evidence of women native american warriors, I can tell you about Pine Leaf and Running Eagle as examples of women warriors who went hand to hand with seasoned male warriors of rival tribes and walked away with their scalps. I can even give you a quote about Pine Leaf by an American frontiersman about her abilities;
"I conceive it to be my duty to devote a few lines to the bravest woman that ever lived, namely, Pine Leaf – in Indian, Bar-chee-am-pe. For an Indian, she possessed great intellectual powers. She was endowed with extraordinary muscular strength, with the activity of the cat and the speed of an antelope. When I engaged in the fiercest struggles, no one was more promptly at my side than the young heroine. She seemed incapable of fear; and when she arrived at womanhood, could fire a gun without flinching, and use Indian weapons with as great dexterity as the most accomplished warrior." - James "Bloody Arm" Beckworth, American Frontiersman
https://images.squarespace-cdn.com/content/v1/5dc1ee8ec842b271464dc6ee/1619820729646-ZVLA6XV65G9YV74CAAMW/0620winborg_j_MightMane.jpg?format=1000w
At the end of the day, there are ways to do this. It's not hard to understand that the most dangerous and powerful weapon someone can use against their foe is their mind. Mind over matter as the old saying goes.
That's an awesome story. Thanks for sharing.
Quote from: Mr.Turok on Jun 21, 2022, 03:57:00 PMSecond of all, maybe poison or venom can be involved? Various native tribes use them for hunts so who's to say that she wouldn't use them either? Poison from plants or venom from snakes, perhaps a deadly combo of both on her spears and arrows?
I don't have time to reply to everyone who responded nor everything you wrote. I don't agree with most of what was written but all of you have right to your own opinion.
Regarding poison or venom, I believe this is very, but really very bad idea. Why ? Because we don't know how alien biology works, what poison or venom is dangerous to Predator. His blood is completely different than ours, and poisons/venoms which evolved on earth aren't evolved to harm his biology.
All animals on Earth evolved on the same planet, they even have same ancestor at some point in time, and for example rabies is 100% deadly to all mammals, but cannot do anything to birds, reptiles, fishes, etc.
So how should our girly teen hero figure out what Predator's body cannot tolerate ?
Quote from: Preddie-nokas on Jun 22, 2022, 12:23:19 PMQuote from: Mr.Turok on Jun 21, 2022, 03:57:00 PMSecond of all, maybe poison or venom can be involved? Various native tribes use them for hunts so who's to say that she wouldn't use them either? Poison from plants or venom from snakes, perhaps a deadly combo of both on her spears and arrows?
I don't have time to reply to everyone who responded nor everything you wrote. I don't agree with most of what was written but all of you have right to your own opinion.
Regarding poison or venom, I believe this is very, but really very bad idea. Why ? Because we don't know how alien biology works, what poison or venom is dangerous to Predator. His blood is completely different than ours, and poisons/venoms which evolved on earth aren't evolved to harm his biology.
All animals on Earth evolved on the same planet, they even have same ancestor at some point in time, and for example rabies is 100% deadly to all mammals, but cannot do anything to birds, reptiles, fishes, etc.
So how should our girly teen hero figure out what Predator's body cannot tolerate ?
But the alien biochemistry thing works
both ways: technically there should be a large amount of Terran biological material that is toxic/inimical or at least fundamentally incompatible to life that evolved elsewhere. We can see, to start with, the Earth atmosphere is not perfectly suited to them; they prefer to wear helmets with either some kind of filter or air-supply.
You don't see Predator's
eating anything local. Well, not in the films I've seen (which isn't all of them).
The director states: "the ingenuity of a human being who won't give up, who's able to
observe and interpret, basically being able to beat a stronger, more powerful, well-armed force."
The key words there are "observe" and "interpret".
Also I think your language "girly teen hero" is pretty derogatory, bordering on misogynistic. How about "heroic young woman"?
In P2, Keyes said City Hunter was eating beef in the slaughterhouse though.
Regarding poison, I'm on the side of those who believe that it could at least incapacitate the predator in some way, thus weakening/disturbing him a bit, which could give advantage to humans in the movie.
I mean even with bullet wounds and a missing limb these things don't exactly slow down. And given they're from space they've probably at least considered alien pathogens and poisons. So they're probably treated as best they could before going out. But then this is the first time at least Feral was ever here and so how would he know?
That would be kind of amusing in today's climate where the villain doesn't wear a proper mask and he gets sick.
Wasn't there a line in an earlier draft of Predators where Noland says something like "what kills us only hurts them"? In the case of poison, I'd be down for the same kind of thing happening. Maybe Naru uses some sort of extremely lethal poison on her arrows but rather than killing Feral outright like it would a human, it just disorients him long enough for her to spring a trap of some sort of, or at least puts him off-balance long enough for her to stand a chance against him.
Quote from: NecronomIV on Jun 22, 2022, 01:12:46 PMBut the alien biochemistry thing works both ways: technically there should be a large amount of Terran biological material that is toxic/inimical or at least fundamentally incompatible to life that evolved elsewhere. We can see, to start with, the Earth atmosphere is not perfectly suited to them; they prefer to wear helmets with either some kind of filter or air-supply.
You don't see Predator's eating anything local. Well, not in the films I've seen (which isn't all of them).
The director states: "the ingenuity of a human being who won't give up, who's able to observe and interpret, basically being able to beat a stronger, more powerful, well-armed force."
The key words there are "observe" and "interpret".
Also I think your language "girly teen hero" is pretty derogatory, bordering on misogynistic. How about "heroic young woman"?
Look, regarding "girly teen hero", I come from a culture and age where we didn't have terms as misogynistic and modern liberal nonsenses. When I was young men had firm handshakes and testosterone levels were much higher than today. You won't change my viewpoints, I was raised before those silly terms were invented and propagated by mass media, and when men like Conan and Rambo were the heroes.
https://www.mensjournal.com/health-fitness/grip-strength-millennials-weaker-handshakes-fathers-study/
I described hero of this film as I see it, weak primitive girl who is fighting a high tech beast. Native Americans were stone age culture, they didn't even have metallurgy in North America, it is good question can wooden arrows without sharp metal tip even penetrate Predator's reptilian skin.
I don't know about Predator's IQ, but by looking their technology, and knowing they are capable of going on interstellar trips, they should have at least same level or higher IQ than humans. It is not like it is easy to outsmart them, but I admit their biggest weakness is their self-confidence. E.g. Jungle Hunter could easily kill Dutch numerous times, but he decided to play with him.
Girly hero in this movie is not a scientist so she won't figure out what poison/venom can harm Predator. They have some trouble breathing Earth's atmosphere, but you can't figure out which compounds are they missing. Maybe they need less Oxygen, maybe more, maybe they are missing some molecule which isn't present in Earth's atmosphere.
This girl doesn't know that there are other planets in space, that Earth exists in Universe, that there is Solar system, etc., even in Europe at that time only small amount of astronomers knew that Earth is revolving around sun. So she can't even assume this is alien from another planet, probably she will think it is some kind of God, Spirit, animal which was not discovered before, or something like that.
At the end, idea with poison/venom just won't work because we are talking about alien with green blood. From previous movies we've seen Predators in multiple environments, and nothing was toxic to them. Our girl hero will probably think that Predator is sensitive to the same venoms and poisons as her, because she can't comprehend that there are other planets with beings evolving there.
Rambo was never a hero.
Quote from: Preddie-nokas on Jun 22, 2022, 02:49:59 PMLook, regarding "girly teen hero", I come from a culture and age where we didn't have terms as misogynistic and modern liberal nonsenses. When I was young men had firm handshakes and testosterone levels were much higher than today. You won't change my viewpoints, I was raised before those silly terms were invented and propagated by mass media, and when men like Conan and Rambo were the heroes.
Unfortunately for yourself, we live in the 21st century where the dictators here expect actual respect involved in the discussions. If we're not changing your viewpoint there, I expect this isn't the place for you to be.
Quote from: Preddie-nokas on Jun 22, 2022, 12:23:19 PMI don't have time to reply to everyone who responded nor everything you wrote. I don't agree with most of what was written but all of you have right to your own opinion.
Hopefully you can cuz I do wanna know why not. I just find it very silly that Naru can't use similar methods to kill a Predator like Dutch did only because she is a woman. All the opposition of her character always comes down to "she is a woman" so I do laugh and ticker around with how people can justify misogyny.
Quote from: Preddie-nokas on Jun 22, 2022, 12:23:19 PMRegarding poison or venom, I believe this is very, but really very bad idea. Why ? Because we don't know how alien biology works, what poison or venom is dangerous to Predator. His blood is completely different than ours, and poisons/venoms which evolved on earth aren't evolved to harm his biology.
All of this is being looked at from a native american perspective from the 18th century, they don't even know what an alien is, so how is this going to stop them from using poison or venom to try and kill this unknown being?
Second, it's writing. The writers can take it into any turn if they please. Many films like War of the Worlds addresses how our microbes killed off the invading force in the end due to the fact their bodies couldn't handle our planet's conditions. Others films shrug this detail off cuz writing demands conflict, otherwise no film is done. They can easily say Predators can adapt to Earth's atmosphere for a limited time without their bio-mask but are weak to our poisons/venoms. Every film has done aliens differently so this isn't cut and dry as you think it is. Besides, if Predators were able to be sedated like how we see in The Predator, I have no doubt that poisons/venoms can affect them to some kind of fatal degree.
Quote from: Preddie-nokas on Jun 22, 2022, 02:49:59 PMLook, regarding "girly teen hero", I come from a culture and age where we didn't have terms as misogynistic and modern liberal nonsenses. When I was young men had firm handshakes and testosterone levels were much higher than today.
Yeah and there was also a time when men were men, beating their wives for undercooking their steak and being racist to black people was the norm, but obviously things change huh :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:
Quote from: Preddie-nokas on Jun 22, 2022, 02:49:59 PMI was raised before those silly terms were invented and propagated by mass media, and when men like Conan and Rambo were the heroes.
Rambo, you mean the film where people missed the point of how war is f**ked up, our boys in green were left behind by both the military and the country, the one where everyone missed the point of how war is bad and decided to glorify death and destruction? :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:
Quote from: Preddie-nokas on Jun 22, 2022, 02:49:59 PMhttps://www.mensjournal.com/health-fitness/grip-strength-millennials-weaker-handshakes-fathers-study/
QuoteSo what gives? We can't just credit Old Man Strength (which is a real thing), since the researchers compared men of the same age. More likely to blame is the simple fact that the average American worker is hauling fewer heavy objects and typing more emails than we did 31 years ago.
"Work patterns have changed dramatically since 1985, when the first norms were established," Fain, an occupational therapist, told NPR. "As a society, we're no longer agricultural or manufacturing.... What we're doing more now is technology-related, especially for millennials."
Yeah, if you are going to post some kind of article that wanna support your views, gotta make a read into it cuz the whole point of this is just to show how job demands are changing and hardcore labor isn't as needed as it once used to thanks to today's new technology and innovation that makes productions much more simpler and easier to do, making room for other new jobs such as IT and programing that is needed. Hence why the growth of stay at home jobs, that is just progress. It's just change of the world, nothing negative about it. Which you missed the point....
QuoteFain and Weatherford bring this up not to mock millennials, but to point out that the 1985 hand-strength standards—an important factor in assessing the severity of hand injuries—are, like most haircuts and jeans styles from 1985, probably a little outdated.
Even then, seems like some men don't need to make a point about how manly they are, they just do what they need or want to do, and don't need some old timer telling them how less of a man they are cuz some silly notion of weak grip strength. Again, all of this simply shows how much time passes but you haven't wised up a bit have you? Again, real shame.
Just screams of insecurity and fragility to be honest.
Not to mention that though in history women warriors isn't common and certainly something dominated by men doesn't mean women never did fight and weren't capable.
Joan of Arc, the Birka viking warrior, Khutulun, the Onna-musha, the Dahomey Amazons.
Quote from: Preddie-nokas on Jun 22, 2022, 02:49:59 PMWhen I was young men had firm handshakes and testosterone levels were much higher than today. You won't change my viewpoints, I was raised before those silly terms were invented and propagated by mass media, and when men like Conan and Rambo were the heroes.
It's not manly to whine like this.
this is childish shit.
Should we tell him that both Conan movies had female warriors who were more than a match for Conan?
Quote from: Mr.Turok on Jun 22, 2022, 03:30:22 PMSecond, it's writing. The writers can take it into any turn if they please. Many films like War of the Worlds addresses how our microbes killed off the invading force in the end due to the fact their bodies couldn't handle our planet's conditions. Others films shrug this detail off cuz writing demands conflict, otherwise no film is done. They can easily say Predators can adapt to Earth's atmosphere for a limited time without their bio-mask but are weak to our poisons/venoms. Every film has done aliens differently so this isn't cut and dry as you think it is. Besides, if Predators were able to be sedated like how we see in The Predator, I have no doubt that poisons/venoms can affect them to some kind of fatal degree.
This is again simple thinking.
In the The Predator:
- Predator had been alternated with human DNA, maybe that made him weak to sedatives as humans
- You have modern laboratory with scientists who could analyze Predator's blood and tissue, see its composure, and have some assumption about potential sedatives
They said this is the first coming, so this Predator in 18th century doesn't have human DNA, and stone age woman cannot lucky guess Predator's biology weakness.
A lot of people seem to somehow miss blatant woke themes in old movies
Alien criticizes corporations. (and that's also ignoring all the SA allegories)
Predator criticizes the government.
Jurassic Park criticizes a lot of things and has feminism in it.
Aliens criticizes the Vietnam war.
Man I could keep going about stuff like this, how did so many people miss those? They weren't really subtle.
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Did we ask ourselves if Ellen Ripley, Sarah Connor, Beatrix Kiddo or Furiosa were protagonists of woke movies ? No we didn't. We didn't need to. Those were great characters in amazing movies.
I wish the best for Prey, without asking myself all that, as always. Just give me cool characters and a great movie please.
Quote from: Preddie-nokas on Jun 22, 2022, 04:28:57 PMThis is again simple thinking.
They said this is the first coming, so this Predator in 18th century doesn't have human DNA, and stone age woman cannot lucky guess Predator's biology weakness.
Who is to say that human DNA had influence on that? What if they were just vulnerable to such things already? Its too easy to flip the script on that too. You said the magic word right there "maybe", so it can easily be just that they are affected by such things anyway without the human DNA. Again, as I stated before:
Quote from: Mr.Turok on Jun 22, 2022, 03:30:22 PMSecond, it's writing. The writers can take it into any turn if they please. Many films like War of the Worlds addresses how our microbes killed off the invading force in the end due to the fact their bodies couldn't handle our planet's conditions. Others films shrug this detail off cuz writing demands conflict, otherwise no film is done. They can easily say Predators can adapt to Earth's atmosphere for a limited time without their bio-mask but are weak to our poisons/venoms. Every film has done aliens differently so this isn't cut and dry as you think it is.
It's not hard to go through you're arsenal and try out what works. If stone tipped arrows don't work, use some steel from the French trappers, if no steel available, hey we got some poison/venom lying around that we use for hunting, lets give that a shot. The logic of reduction is not lost on a tribe from the 18th century, its an ability that all humans have, I feel like you are trying too hard to deny her ability to do this.
Quote from: Preddie-nokas on Jun 22, 2022, 12:23:19 PMQuote from: Mr.Turok on Jun 21, 2022, 03:57:00 PMSecond of all, maybe poison or venom can be involved? Various native tribes use them for hunts so who's to say that she wouldn't use them either? Poison from plants or venom from snakes, perhaps a deadly combo of both on her spears and arrows?
I don't have time to reply to everyone who responded nor everything you wrote. I don't agree with most of what was written but all of you have right to your own opinion.
Regarding poison or venom, I believe this is very, but really very bad idea. Why ? Because we don't know how alien biology works, what poison or venom is dangerous to Predator. His blood is completely different than ours, and poisons/venoms which evolved on earth aren't evolved to harm his biology.
All animals on Earth evolved on the same planet, they even have same ancestor at some point in time, and for example rabies is 100% deadly to all mammals, but cannot do anything to birds, reptiles, fishes, etc.
So how should our girly teen hero figure out what Predator's body cannot tolerate ?
You're trying really hard to find ways to not let this work. What if she tries and it doesn't work because of exactly what you said? And that causes more tension in the plot because she has to try another method. There's ways to do things like this with story telling, hel, Dutch and his team tried a lot of methods before they failed. Maybe her trying poison is one of them.
Quote from: BigDaddyJohn on Jun 22, 2022, 05:24:28 PMDid we ask ourselves if Ellen Ripley, Sarah Connor, Beatrix Kiddo or Furiosa were protagonists of woke movies ? No we didn't. We didn't need to. Those were great characters in amazing movies.
People 100% complained about Furiosa. The kind of people crying woke today would absolutely roll their eyes at Ripley and Sarah Connor if those movies were made today.
Let's not forget that the Predator is hunting on Naru's turf . Unlike Dutch, Harrigan, and royce, who had to fight their final battles on unfamiliar grounds: Naru has the home field advantage, she knows the lay of the land better than the Predator. Imagine the Predator chasing her and she makes a sharp left and dives into a small cave network that he can't fit through and roars in frustration. She pulls a John Rambo on him, with well placed traps and arrows. It'll be like Last Blood, only the story won't suck this time.
Quote from: SiL on Jun 22, 2022, 07:37:13 PMQuote from: BigDaddyJohn on Jun 22, 2022, 05:24:28 PMDid we ask ourselves if Ellen Ripley, Sarah Connor, Beatrix Kiddo or Furiosa were protagonists of woke movies ? No we didn't. We didn't need to. Those were great characters in amazing movies.
People 100% complained about Furiosa. The kind of people crying woke today would absolutely roll their eyes at Ripley and Sarah Connor if those movies were made today.
Then it's a shame. I think anyone can relate to those characters regardless of their gender, people like that are missing out, but eh.
Quote from: Jigsaw85 on Jun 22, 2022, 07:54:23 PMLet's not forget that the Predator is hunting on Naru's turf . Unlike Dutch, Harrigan, and royce, who had to fight their final battles on unfamiliar grounds: Naru has the home field advantage, she knows the lay of the land better than the Predator. Imagine the Predator chasing her and she makes a sharp left and dives into a small cave network that he can't fit through and roars in frustration. She pulls a John Rambo on him, with well placed traps and arrows. It'll be like Last Blood, only the story won't suck this time.
this.
as i said before. she's comanche. she "knows how to survive" these are her woods and comanche are badasses. look at her throwing that axe in the opening trailer scene. if you're going to come into this movie and expect godzilla vs kong, you're going to be disappointed.
on top of all this. it's a 2hr movie. sit back and enjoy.
everyone is pissing and moaning about how unrealistic it is that a female could take on AN EXTRATERRESTRIAL HUNTER with tech that doesn't even exist.
but let's focus on the female and the message.
if you want ultra realism, go watch ken burns' films.
this film is an amusement park ride. strap in and enjoy. stop looking around and try to find the wrinkles and look behind the curtain.
If the "sexism in a survival situation" line from Jurassic Park were in a movie today, the whining would never end.
Quote from: Preddie-nokas on Jun 22, 2022, 02:49:59 PMGirly hero in this movie is not a scientist ...
A lot of "primitive cultures" were full of scientists. Not in the white-coat, scientific-method kind, but the kind that did a lot of
observation, noticed
cause and effect, noticed
patterns and drew conclusions and
learned. A lot of "scientists" in the modern day study the knowledge and lore of these cultures to learn what they learned.
In Australia, for example, the indigenous Australians knew that you had to burn the bush regularly. If you don't, then the fuel load becomes too high, and when it inevitably catches fire, then instead of a small, controllable fire, you have a wildfire.
Burning the bush releases the nutrients locked up in dead leaves and larger plant that crowd out others. (Australia is mostly too dry for vegeatable matter to break down quickly via fungi etc).
So you get new plants taking advantage of the nutrients, and growing like crazy. Animals love those tender young shoots. And those animals were an important part of the diet of the Indigenous Australians, so they had easy pickings.
And those plants? They
know what all those plants are, which ones are good to eat, which ones not to eat, which ones are medicine. which ones flowing means which season is coming, and so on.
They weren't born knowing this stuff. They
observed and
discovered and
learned.
That's
science.
He's already said nobody can change his mind. There's no discussion to be had here. Don't take the bait.
That verbiage....
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Yeah that doesn't bode well
I don't mind when different kind of predators are introduced, I mind when new designs are introduced and are meant to be the classics, like they did with AVP and The Predator
*Snipped.
Let's leave it please, it flies in the face of my original warning to him. I think the others are making the point without lowering to his level.
Quote from: Jigsaw85 on Jun 22, 2022, 07:54:23 PMLet's not forget that the Predator is hunting on Naru's turf . Unlike Dutch, Harrigan, and royce, who had to fight their final battles on unfamiliar grounds: Naru has the home field advantage, she knows the lay of the land better than the Predator. Imagine the Predator chasing her and she makes a sharp left and dives into a small cave network that he can't fit through and roars in frustration. She pulls a John Rambo on him, with well placed traps and arrows. It'll be like Last Blood, only the story won't suck this time.
I don't know man, her strategy against bear sucked and only confirmed what her tribe thinks,
that she can't hunt. From trailer we see she was on open field with bear, her arrow didn't do much damage, she didn't have any shelter and couldn't climb on any high position. She didn't prepare any trap for the bear either.
So, she wasn't prepared at all with backup plan or something, Predator saved her, or she would be killed by a bear. Obviously Predator spared her life because she was not worthy to him, he could easily finish her after the bear.
And now, she will develop her skills in short period of time against Predator ? Only thing that would maybe work is if Predator becomes some kind of mentor for her.
Alright, I stayed from this argument long enough but here're my two cents:
Am I the only one who thinks that once movie comes out the whole "debate" won't stop but will go on even stronger ? And both sides will have enough arguments to back up their loud opinions ? I say "both sides" because something tells me that not only these who "anti-woke" are so called "loud minority" but so are also these who I for simplicity sake will call "pro-woke". I think majority of viewers don't bother arguing such stuff and just hope movie's gonna be good
I don't give a damn whether or not our heroine is gonna be a worthy match for Predator. She maybe a terrible huntress, she may totally and completely suck at hunting. It doesn't matter as long as there's some interesting story around it, some character development, growth. OK, she may be completely unprepared to deal with a Predator. Great, let's see what she's gonna do with that problem, how she's gonna take him down ! Maybe she won't, maybe Predator will survive for a change. Maybe she even won't be the one being hunted ! I haven't really dug into plot details but as I understand she has a brother, strong and physical Commanche,, A MALE !!!! Maybe Predator will hunt him while she'll do her best to save him and to survive herself using her smarts and knowledge of surroundings ? And Predator is gonna be all like "Huh, who is this, maybe I'll ought to pay more attention to this specimen ??" Why not ? Only because Dutch beat JH certain way doesn't mean there're no others ! Stop f**king going back to 1987 one, stop it ! Go to the board, Dan, make it work, make it fun and exciting, surprise me, goddamit !
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QuoteThe Prey hero assets (Predator Mask)
Responsible for Modeling Predator Mask (Hero Assets A++ )
Quote from: Preddie-nokas on Jun 23, 2022, 12:25:59 PMQuote from: Jigsaw85 on Jun 22, 2022, 07:54:23 PMLet's not forget that the Predator is hunting on Naru's turf . Unlike Dutch, Harrigan, and royce, who had to fight their final battles on unfamiliar grounds: Naru has the home field advantage, she knows the lay of the land better than the Predator. Imagine the Predator chasing her and she makes a sharp left and dives into a small cave network that he can't fit through and roars in frustration. She pulls a John Rambo on him, with well placed traps and arrows. It'll be like Last Blood, only the story won't suck this time.
I don't know man, her strategy against bear sucked and only confirmed what her tribe thinks, that she can't hunt. From trailer we see she was on open field with bear, her arrow didn't do much damage, she didn't have any shelter and couldn't climb on any high position. She didn't prepare any trap for the bear either.
So, she wasn't prepared at all with backup plan or something, Predator saved her, or she would be killed by a bear. Obviously Predator spared her life because she was not worthy to him, he could easily finish her after the bear.
And now, she will develop her skills in short period of time against Predator ? Only thing that would maybe work is if Predator becomes some kind of mentor for her.
We didn't see the full scene yet, so let's wait for that shall we ? ;)
And it is character development. Make your character evolve through struggle and tough situations, especially with limited time. If the character stays the same from start to finish, what's the point ?
Dutch went from spec ops with big guns to bush man who barely speaks. Naru will go from maybe naive wannabe warrior/huntress to confirmed warrior/huntress probably.
Quote from: Corporal Hicks on Jun 23, 2022, 01:50:43 PMhttps://cdna.artstation.com/p/assets/images/images/050/738/776/large/aakash-verma-prey-trailer-main.jpg?1655566653
https://www.artstation.com/artwork/eJ1yBJ
QuoteThe Prey hero assets (Predator Mask)
Responsible for Modeling Predator Mask (Hero Assets A++ )
I so f**king love the design of this shield.
Quote from: Corporal Hicks on Jun 23, 2022, 01:50:43 PMhttps://cdna.artstation.com/p/assets/images/images/050/738/776/large/aakash-verma-prey-trailer-main.jpg?1655566653
https://www.artstation.com/artwork/eJ1yBJ
QuoteThe Prey hero assets (Predator Mask)
Responsible for Modeling Predator Mask (Hero Assets A++ )
I don't understand what this is. Did this guy make the 3d models that were used? I thought initially something was for sale on that page
Quote from: Corporal Hicks on Jun 23, 2022, 01:50:43 PMhttps://cdna.artstation.com/p/assets/images/images/050/738/776/large/aakash-verma-prey-trailer-main.jpg?1655566653
https://www.artstation.com/artwork/eJ1yBJ
QuoteThe Prey hero assets (Predator Mask)
Responsible for Modeling Predator Mask (Hero Assets A++ )
A Predator's hand fan was the first thing that came to my mind when I saw that shield for first time.
(https://s8.gifyu.com/images/WJK7Wv.gif)
Quote from: ace3g on Jun 23, 2022, 02:23:53 AMThat verbiage....
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I guess at this point, everyone feels like they have to come up with the next bigger or badder Predator. Would keeping the same design really be too boring?
Bit worrying considering prior deviations.
At least we got a different color scheme going on. Last time we strayed from the usual yellow and black coloring that wasn't part of a bigger/badder Predator trope going on, was in Predator 2 with City Hunter having his unique coloring. Stan Winston himself said that Predators come in different colorings like snakes do and I loved that idea but films never follow on it as it always gotta be an homage to the original and the original is good but new is needed.
Very curious for the different Predator type from a different part of the Predator homeworld angle they are introducing. After so many bigger/badder Predator trope being pulled on half the Predator series, it starts to sour on my expectations on new Predator ideas. Hope they pull this off.
Quote from: ace3g on Jun 23, 2022, 02:23:53 AMThat verbiage....
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The irony here is that the design did change. Several times.
Could be she's saying "can change and be loved by the fans."
Quote from: BlueMarsalis79 on Jun 23, 2022, 05:50:52 PMCould be she's saying "can change and be loved by the fans."
that's what it seems like to me.
Quote from: Wysps on Jun 23, 2022, 02:37:17 PMQuote from: ace3g on Jun 23, 2022, 02:23:53 AMThat verbiage....
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I guess at this point, everyone feels like they have to come up with the next bigger or badder Predator. Would keeping the same design really be too boring?
I like the idea of ethnic diversity in the Predator creatures. But I like consistency too and it is a bit of a stretch to have radically new creature every film.
Ultimately, the root of it is when you're hired to do design on a film, the last thing you do is say: "well, they did all the cool design work for the last film, let's just re-use that." That is in no way exciting for them. The ALIEN wasn't consistent from film to film -- yes, the basic idea was there, but they did differ quite a lot.
Quote from: NecronomIV on Jun 24, 2022, 04:30:12 AM"well, they did all the cool design work for the last film, let's just re-use that."
This is my biggest fear with two
Alien projects concurrently in development for the first time ever. I really, really hope that the Aliens being designed for Hawley's show aren't just dropped into Alvarez's film as well, as some kind of cost-saving thing or attempt at shoehorned consistency. I want more than anything for each particular project to get their own stab at designing the creature (and everything else in the show/film, frankly) from the ground up independently of one another.
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Strong jawline indeed. Also does this man that the targeting laser is in the mask still?
Quote from: shadowedge on Jun 25, 2022, 05:11:00 AMStrong jawline indeed. Also does this man that the targeting laser is in the mask still?
Yes, in the higher res screenshots you can see it at the top corner of the mask
I'm intrigued, I need to see more.
So it's a skull built into the helmet?
I wonder if the pointy tip of the chin is just part of the mask, or is the face also like that.
Quote from: KiramidHead on Jun 25, 2022, 01:46:51 PMSo it's a skull built into the helmet?
Yeah you can see in a couple of the shots from the trailer that it looks like it's a bio-mask with a skull or some sort of bones attached to the front:
PreyPred2.jpg
Just for reference using Kailem's screenshot, this is where the laser sight is located. This can be seen better in a high quality screenshot of the Shield scene that exists on here somewhere but I couldn't find it (was an image someone tweeted rather than a capture from the trailer itself)
(https://i.imgur.com/aOkYukC.jpg)
Edit: Finally found the screenshot/publicity still I was talking about. Source: https://twitter.com/OhMyMithrandir/status/1534179060531732482
(https://i.imgur.com/ONOoogr.png)
Still, where the eyes are located is a mystery for me.
I also wonder how it breaths. From what we've seen so far it looks like the mouth is just exposed under the mask, I hope they don't just ignore it and pretend like P2 never happened (though having said that, I guess it's never really established in P2 that the breather he uses is so he doesn't suffocate, rather than inhaling some sort of like drug to keep his energy up etc etc)
Quote from: Doomofman on Jun 25, 2022, 06:39:02 PMI also wonder how it breaths. From what we've seen so far it looks like the mouth is just exposed under the mask, I hope they don't just ignore it and pretend like P2 never happened (though having said that, I guess it's never really established in P2 that the breather he uses is so he doesn't suffocate, rather than inhaling some sort of like drug to keep his energy up etc etc)
It's possible he needed air supply after being shot numerous times in the chest also.
I always took it to be medication, not air. Jungle Hunter lasted longer without a mask.
Idea comes more from P2 novelisation than the movie itself
Quote from: Kailem on Jun 25, 2022, 03:04:30 PMQuote from: KiramidHead on Jun 25, 2022, 01:46:51 PMSo it's a skull built into the helmet?
Yeah you can see in a couple of the shots from the trailer that it looks like it's a bio-mask with a skull or some sort of bones attached to the front:
PreyPred2.jpg
Looks like a good shot of the mandibles too
Quote from: BISHOP 93 on Jun 25, 2022, 07:51:54 PMQuote from: Kailem on Jun 25, 2022, 03:04:30 PMQuote from: KiramidHead on Jun 25, 2022, 01:46:51 PMSo it's a skull built into the helmet?
Yeah you can see in a couple of the shots from the trailer that it looks like it's a bio-mask with a skull or some sort of bones attached to the front:
PreyPred2.jpg
Looks like a good shot of the mandibles too
There's a slightly better one here:
PreyPred3.jpg
There's no way those mandibles are closing without ADI's trademark face flaps
Depends on how big Trachtenburg wanted the roar to be.
That side on shot already makes the roar look wider than Wolf's (and I actually think this design is going to be closest to Wolf's out of all the designs we've seen before)
In the final CGI shot of the trailer, we can roughly see that the mouth seem to open pretty wide.
Quote from: Doomofman on Jun 25, 2022, 08:19:05 PMThat side on shot already makes the roar look wider than Wolf's (and I actually think this design is going to be closest to Wolf's out of all the designs we've seen before)
I can see those similarities with the way Wolf's face design was maybe. As long as the mandibles can close naturally without seeming too disproportionate. I am still very interested in the result & how it's shot.
Keep maybe seeing how the inner-teeth with this new Feral Predator has multiple teeth on the top & bottom rows. Most original designs (aside Scar in AVP) had the 2 top teeth & several bottom ones. So that might add a new subtle look possibly.
I did try to quickly brighten up some of the trailer shots to see the design more:
(https://i.postimg.cc/RVySxQ3b/0859-A167-1-E44-40-A3-BD27-6-C270-B9828-C1.jpg)
(https://i.postimg.cc/HsVYNPLy/AFED7563-62-AF-4059-B359-D4-A337-AD8-F4-B.jpg)
*Wolf's design wasn't perfect but was able to snag a decent shot or two in AVPR. So hoping for the same with this Feral Predator.
(https://www.predator4-movie.com/predator4_uploads/AVPR-_Wolf2.jpg)
Seeing those trailer screenshots and Wolf side by side just reinforces the thought I had that his top mandibles get in the way of his eyes. Though maybe it's like our nose where the brain just essentially edits it out of view
Jesus Christ, no wonder Voodoo left, these might be the most horizontally stretching mandibles of all time and will absolutely have huge flappy lumps.
Yeah I'm pretty well prepared to dislike the design of this preds face but I'll give it a chance first.
As long as the movie is good though I can live with an ultra crabator.
I can't wait to see the eyes. It's what gives soul to these creatures after all.
Quote from: BigDaddyJohn on Jun 26, 2022, 02:29:23 PMI can't wait to see the eyes. It's what gives soul to these creatures after all.
I still think Dane pulled a sly one with that bigfoot suit pic and the orange contacts he was wearing there are actually going to be the feral's eyes
Quote from: Doomofman on Jun 26, 2022, 09:04:30 AMSeeing those trailer screenshots and Wolf side by side just reinforces the thought I had that his top mandibles get in the way of his eyes. Though maybe it's like our nose where the brain just essentially edits it out of view
Looking at that brightened-up screenshot definitely gives that impression. Perhaps this one's eyes are going to be higher up compared to previous designs? It definitely looks like he's got a more pronounced forehead that sticks out compared to the rest of his head, and the largely flat foreheads of other Predators, so maybe the eyes will kinda be surrounded a bit more by that for a more menacing look?
Either way, I'm super curious to get a good, proper look at him in the film.
Quote from: 426Buddy on Jun 26, 2022, 01:26:34 PMYeah I'm pretty well prepared to dislike the design of this preds face but I'll give it a chance first.
As long as the movie is good though I can live with an ultra crabator.
To me, it can't be good with a crabator onboard, the design is essential.
Imagine if City hunter had Scar's face. Anyway it's too late.
City Hunter had a couple really wonky face effects too, but still a great film.
If AvP or AvPR had been great movies I would have forgiven the effects.
Quote from: Yautja888 on Jun 26, 2022, 06:24:20 PMQuote from: 426Buddy on Jun 26, 2022, 01:26:34 PMYeah I'm pretty well prepared to dislike the design of this preds face but I'll give it a chance first.
As long as the movie is good though I can live with an ultra crabator.
To me, it can't be good with a crabator onboard, the design is essential.
Imagine if City hunter had Scar's face. Anyway it's too late.
City hunter looks great but his mouth moves pretty choppy and chunky sometimes, along with some folding like ADI does. Even Jungle Hunger had a bit of a floppy head at some points. The best aren't even perfect. Let's wait and see until the actual product comes out so we can view it in context, instead of quick cut frames from the trailer meant to get us all talking.
It's an Imhotep Pred:
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Quote from: KiramidHead on Apr 01, 1975, 11:43:36 PMIt's an Imhotep Pred:
http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-9B5XLVSsfas/UtniKUQxrOI/AAAAAAAAgNs/DDsM7xnkKPw/s1600/the-mummy-1999-imhotep-jaw.jpg
It's all Stephen Sommer's fault!
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Quote from: pmaz11 on Jun 26, 2022, 03:54:18 AMQuote from: Doomofman on Jun 25, 2022, 08:19:05 PMThat side on shot already makes the roar look wider than Wolf's (and I actually think this design is going to be closest to Wolf's out of all the designs we've seen before)
I can see those similarities with the way Wolf's face design was maybe. As long as the mandibles can close naturally without seeming too disproportionate. I am still very interested in the result & how it's shot.
Keep maybe seeing how the inner-teeth with this new Feral Predator has multiple teeth on the top & bottom rows. Most original designs (aside Scar in AVP) had the 2 top teeth & several bottom ones. So that might add a new subtle look possibly.
I did try to quickly brighten up some of the trailer shots to see the design more:
https://i.postimg.cc/RVySxQ3b/0859-A167-1-E44-40-A3-BD27-6-C270-B9828-C1.jpg
https://i.postimg.cc/HsVYNPLy/AFED7563-62-AF-4059-B359-D4-A337-AD8-F4-B.jpg
Yikes.
Ok I have been on this site for years but never asked what qualifies as a Crabator?
Anything made by ADI basically.
That makes sense actually hahaha.
Crabator is a Predator whose mandible effects don't look convincing. They usually move weird and rest in weird positions. They also usually have so much loose rubbery skin around the mandibles that it instantly reveals itself as fake.
ADI is the worst but still a problem in Predators also.
It doesn't matter though, if the predator takes its mask off and looks wonky and fake then basically it's a crabator. It bothers people like Voodoo and I a great deal and some members here hate that it gets discussed so much.
Quote from: BlueMarsalis79 on Jun 26, 2022, 09:25:25 PMQuote from: KiramidHead on Apr 01, 1975, 11:43:36 PMIt's an Imhotep Pred:
http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-9B5XLVSsfas/UtniKUQxrOI/AAAAAAAAgNs/DDsM7xnkKPw/s1600/the-mummy-1999-imhotep-jaw.jpg
It's all Stephen Sommer's fault!
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It's a Pred ghost 👻
(https://s8.gifyu.com/images/grave-encounters-scary-lady-1.gif)
Whenever I see Crabator written here I immediately think of loose skin around the manidbles and mandibles that can't close properly. That's a big difference between the execution of Jungle Hunter and Classic in Predators. Classic looks a lot like Jungle Hunter but his mandibles don't close like the original, they look loose or uneven
I'm ready to think that Feral is another type of predator, coming from another continent/country, and that his face is different.
Quote from: BigDaddyJohn on Jun 28, 2022, 12:53:14 PMI'm ready to think that Feral is another type of predator, coming from another continent/country, and that his face is different.
the director said as much.
https://www.avpgalaxy.net/2022/06/08/dan-trachtenberg-talks-feral-predator-preys-new-predator/
QuoteBut I think this guy's perhaps from a different hemisphere of the planet and a little bit of a different breed. So even his look is a little new, it's familiar, but new. So I'm excited for people, even for diehard fans, to really see something they hadn't seen before."
Yep, I was aligning myself with that statement.
Quote from: 426Buddy on Jun 28, 2022, 11:58:27 AMCrabator is a Predator whose mandible effects don't look convincing. They usually move weird and rest in weird positions. They also usually have so much loose rubbery skin around the mandibles that it instantly reveals itself as fake.
ADI is the worst but still a problem in Predators also.
It doesn't matter though, if the predator takes its mask off and looks wonky and fake then basically it's a crabator. It bothers people like Voodoo and I a great deal and some members here hate that it gets discussed so much.
hate to break it to you... but the whole movie is fake.. so
Quotehate to break it to you... but the whole movie is fake.. so
Childish response, bravo.
It's a movie, you want to see great effects and be immersed. When you see a bad effect it takes you out of the experience or looks silly.
No effect is perfect and a lot depends on how it's shot but the original 2 films set a pretty high bar that all the rest have missed.
The unmasked effects in Predator 2 aren't that great. The mandibles are stiff on the head Hall and stunt actors wear and the animatronic insert face is cartoonish and goofy as all get out.
Quote from: SiL on Jun 28, 2022, 07:28:41 PMThe unmasked effects in Predator 2 aren't that great. The mandibles are stiff on the head Hall and stunt actors wear and the animatronic insert face is cartoonish and goofy as all get out.
I don't mind the mandibles but that insert face is pretty rough. However the difference is I like the movie so I can forgive ;D . Also they also nail some amazing predator effects and the design of the face is great too.
I would wager that if the movies with crabator were better I could probably give them more of a pass.
I think P2 set what became a longstanding tradition of "Not bad until the mask came off", although the city hunter's design at least is a thing of beauty.
Another type of Predator? Thankfully it is not a "Bigger and Badder" one.
It seems not. At least not bigger.
Quote from: 426Buddy on Jun 28, 2022, 03:18:27 PMQuotehate to break it to you... but the whole movie is fake.. so
Childish response, bravo.
It's a movie, you want to see great effects and be immersed. When you see a bad effect it takes you out of the experience or looks silly.
No effect is perfect and a lot depends on how it's shot but the original 2 films set a pretty high bar that all the rest have missed.
childish response to a childish complaint. adi is one of the better creature shops in hollywood. granted some of the avp mandibles had some questionable angles but there's a reason hollywood keeps coming back to them to make predators.
most people that piss and moan on here about "crabators" or whatever seem to have a lack of concept of what goes into monster making in hollywood.
what's worse are the people whine about the design and how it's never what the original is.
fact of the matter is we are sitting on our computers complaining about an art piece someone else put together. if it hurts you so much, quit your job, hop on a plane to LA and join the industry. come on over and make a difference.
i actually like most of the designs and i try not to watch the movie with a magnifying glass.
Quote from: hoffmanstokes on Jun 29, 2022, 01:14:28 AMQuote from: 426Buddy on Jun 28, 2022, 03:18:27 PMQuotehate to break it to you... but the whole movie is fake.. so
Childish response, bravo.
It's a movie, you want to see great effects and be immersed. When you see a bad effect it takes you out of the experience or looks silly.
No effect is perfect and a lot depends on how it's shot but the original 2 films set a pretty high bar that all the rest have missed.
childish response to a childish complaint. adi is one of the better creature shops in hollywood. granted some of the avp mandibles had some questionable angles but there's a reason hollywood keeps coming back to them to make predators.
most people that piss and moan on here about "crabators" or whatever seem to have a lack of concept of what goes into monster making in hollywood.
what's worse are the people whine about the design and how it's never what the original is.
fact of the matter is we are sitting on our computers complaining about an art piece someone else put together. if it hurts you so much, quit your job, hop on a plane to LA and join the industry. come on over and make a difference.
i actually like most of the designs and i try not to watch the movie with a magnifying glass.
Sorry if I like to see good effects and am passionate about my favorite franchises. There is a whole thread here for appreciating ADI's many talents, its not like they dont get praised all the time for many of their effects. But when its comes to the predator they don't muster up for me and i'm going to come here and talk about it. So I don't know who sh*t in your corn flakes this morning but you can keep the hostile attitude, please put me on ignore and I'll do the same for you.
I like to discuss the things I like and the things don't in good measure without being fan-shamed, kind of the point in coming here.
Quote from: Wweyland on Jun 28, 2022, 09:16:17 PMAnother type of Predator? Thankfully it is not a "Bigger and Badder" one.
I wonder how different can be a Predator from another hemisphere of their home world. I mean beyond physical appearance: different traditions, ancestry, language, history, society, culture, nation, religion, etc?
Quote from: hoffmanstokes on Jun 29, 2022, 01:14:28 AMQuote from: 426Buddy on Jun 28, 2022, 03:18:27 PMQuotehate to break it to you... but the whole movie is fake.. so
Childish response, bravo.
It's a movie, you want to see great effects and be immersed. When you see a bad effect it takes you out of the experience or looks silly.
No effect is perfect and a lot depends on how it's shot but the original 2 films set a pretty high bar that all the rest have missed.
childish response to a childish complaint. adi is one of the better creature shops in hollywood. granted some of the avp mandibles had some questionable angles but there's a reason hollywood keeps coming back to them to make predators.
most people that piss and moan on here about "crabators" or whatever seem to have a lack of concept of what goes into monster making in hollywood.
what's worse are the people whine about the design and how it's never what the original is.
fact of the matter is we are sitting on our computers complaining about an art piece someone else put together. if it hurts you so much, quit your job, hop on a plane to LA and join the industry. come on over and make a difference.
i actually like most of the designs and i try not to watch the movie with a magnifying glass.
"If you dont like it, do it better yourself" is one of the dumbest "arguments" of all time.
I dont need to be a trained chef to know when im served shitty, undercooked food. I dont need to be a best-selling author to know when a plot doesnt make any sense at all.
Also, you are basically saying we should just watch every movie and be happy, no matter what we see? You do know that criticizing things (ofc in a rational and calm manner) is the only way to ever get improvement on anything, right?
Quote from: Manti on Jun 29, 2022, 01:15:30 PMQuote from: hoffmanstokes on Jun 29, 2022, 01:14:28 AMQuote from: 426Buddy on Jun 28, 2022, 03:18:27 PMQuotehate to break it to you... but the whole movie is fake.. so
Childish response, bravo.
It's a movie, you want to see great effects and be immersed. When you see a bad effect it takes you out of the experience or looks silly.
No effect is perfect and a lot depends on how it's shot but the original 2 films set a pretty high bar that all the rest have missed.
childish response to a childish complaint. adi is one of the better creature shops in hollywood. granted some of the avp mandibles had some questionable angles but there's a reason hollywood keeps coming back to them to make predators.
most people that piss and moan on here about "crabators" or whatever seem to have a lack of concept of what goes into monster making in hollywood.
what's worse are the people whine about the design and how it's never what the original is.
fact of the matter is we are sitting on our computers complaining about an art piece someone else put together. if it hurts you so much, quit your job, hop on a plane to LA and join the industry. come on over and make a difference.
i actually like most of the designs and i try not to watch the movie with a magnifying glass.
"If you dont like it, do it better yourself" is one of the dumbest "arguments" of all time.
I dont need to be a trained chef to know when im served shitty, undercooked food. I dont need to be a best-selling author to know when a plot doesnt make any sense at all.
Also, you are basically saying we should just watch every movie and be happy, no matter what we see? You do know that criticizing things (ofc in a rational and calm manner) is the only way to ever get improvement on anything, right?
Quote from: Manti on Jun 29, 2022, 01:15:30 PMQuote from: hoffmanstokes on Jun 29, 2022, 01:14:28 AMQuote from: 426Buddy on Jun 28, 2022, 03:18:27 PMQuotehate to break it to you... but the whole movie is fake.. so
Childish response, bravo.
It's a movie, you want to see great effects and be immersed. When you see a bad effect it takes you out of the experience or looks silly.
No effect is perfect and a lot depends on how it's shot but the original 2 films set a pretty high bar that all the rest have missed.
childish response to a childish complaint. adi is one of the better creature shops in hollywood. granted some of the avp mandibles had some questionable angles but there's a reason hollywood keeps coming back to them to make predators.
most people that piss and moan on here about "crabators" or whatever seem to have a lack of concept of what goes into monster making in hollywood.
what's worse are the people whine about the design and how it's never what the original is.
fact of the matter is we are sitting on our computers complaining about an art piece someone else put together. if it hurts you so much, quit your job, hop on a plane to LA and join the industry. come on over and make a difference.
i actually like most of the designs and i try not to watch the movie with a magnifying glass.
"If you dont like it, do it better yourself" is one of the dumbest "arguments" of all time.
I dont need to be a trained chef to know when im served shitty, undercooked food. I dont need to be a best-selling author to know when a plot doesnt make any sense at all.
Also, you are basically saying we should just watch every movie and be happy, no matter what we see? You do know that criticizing things (ofc in a rational and calm manner) is the only way to ever get improvement on anything, right?
if you don't like the food then stop eating at the restaurant and complaining about it.
can't speak for everyone on here but it's not always rational.. or calm.
we haven't even seen this movie yet. way too many people are up in arms over an egg that hasn't even hatched yet.
Criticism is allowed on these boards. They are discussion boards. If someone doesn't like an aspect of the film, as long as it's discussed in a mature manner, we have no issues with it. We do have issues with people trying to dictate to others what they are allowed to discuss, though. So let's move on.
So who is getting Hulu in order to see this? Not sure it's even available where I am.
Already have Disney+ so it'll be there for me on August 5th.
Though I wonder what time things debut at, will it be 12am my time or is it something like 12am PST or something
Quote from: Wweyland on Jun 30, 2022, 11:40:55 AMSo who is getting Hulu in order to see this? Not sure it's even available where I am.
I thought Netflix would be my first purchase of a pay channel (amazon prime excluded) for the ALIEN series.
This looks so good it will be Hulu for Prey. :)
Yeah I'll be getting hulu just for this :-\
Quote from: Doomofman on Jun 30, 2022, 11:44:18 AMAlready have Disney+ so it'll be there for me on August 5th.
Though I wonder what time things debut at, will it be 12am my time or is it something like 12am PST or something
If they do it like they do with new episodes of the Marvel and Star Wars shows then most likely 8am UK time, aka midnight PST. They're very "America-centric" when it comes to exactly when they put new stuff up to watch.
man i just hope we get a 4k blu ray release
It'd be four k's more than I'm expecting.
Quote from: Wweyland on Jun 30, 2022, 11:40:55 AMSo who is getting Hulu in order to see this? Not sure it's even available where I am.
Arrrr matey, I be flyin' the jolly roger.
Quote from: Darwinsgirl on Jun 30, 2022, 12:12:06 PMI thought Netflix would be my first purchase of a pay channel (amazon prime excluded) for the ALIEN series.
Wait, did I miss something?
Maybe I'm remembering wrong? Isn't the new ALIEN series on Netflix in 2023?
If it wouldn't have been pushed back I would purchase the service that has it.
Noah Hawley's Alien Series?
It's coming to Hulu, so it will be on that in the United States, same as Prey and the Alien film by Fede Alvarez.
Disney+ for other territories.
Disney+ for me, since we've used it ever since getting rid of cable in favor of Google Chromecast which has turned out to be cheaper.
Quote from: BlueMarsalis79 on Jun 30, 2022, 10:18:20 PMNoah Hawley's Alien Series?
It's coming to Hulu, so it will be on that in the United States, same as Prey and the Alien film by Fede Alvarez.
Disney+ for other territories.
I mixed it up. ???
Good news for me. I only have to purchase one service. ;D
Thanks for clarifying that.
No worries.
Quote from: BlueMarsalis79 on Jun 30, 2022, 10:18:20 PMNoah Hawley's Alien Series?
It's coming to Hulu, so it will be on that in the United States, same as Prey and the Alien film by Fede Alvarez.
Disney+ for other territories.
sounds to me like legal biz going straight to streaming.
i overheard that if prey saw theaters at all, hbo max had some stake in it. disney would never go for that which may explain why straight to hulu perhaps.
That doesn't make any sense. Why would HBO Max have anything to do with it?
I was just about to say that :laugh:
A month to go!
You can add Prey to your list of stuff on Hulu if you search for it. Seems to have the trailer in 4k with good quality there too.
1 month to go!!!
Damn I can't wait ! Common august !
Can't wait. It's the same weekend as the Premier League returns (for those who are into that sort of thing) so I'm looking forward to a busy weekend
Quote from: Doomofman on Jul 05, 2022, 06:06:18 PMCan't wait. It's the same weekend as the Premier League returns (for those who are into that sort of thing) so I'm looking forward to a busy weekend
What's your team ? I like Liverpool quite a lot I must say.
Quote from: Doomofman on Jul 05, 2022, 06:06:18 PMCan't wait. It's the same weekend as the Premier League returns (for those who are into that sort of thing) so I'm looking forward to a busy weekend
Oh wow it is! Prey on the Friday night followed by the Reds 12:30 Saturday kick off. 🙌
Haha yeah I'm a Liverpool fan as well. So that weekend will be getting off to a good start with Prey on the Friday and Liverpool v Fulham on Saturday (along with all the other PL games too)
Yep, Prey on friday, Liverpool on saturday, you can't go wrong with that.
Quote from: BigDaddyJohn on Jul 05, 2022, 08:22:06 PMYep, Prey on friday, Liverpool on saturday, you can't go wrong with that.
Unless we drop points. 😬😅
I mean, Mané is a big loss, but we're still on the transfer period, so a big hit is still possible on the market.
Quote from: BigDaddyJohn on Jul 05, 2022, 08:36:20 PMI mean, Mané is a big loss, but we're still on the transfer period, so a big hit is still possible on the market.
I think we'll be fine. Plenty of good options there.
Eight posts about sportsball! ;D
Sorry, I launched the side tracking :laugh:
That's alright I'm only joking honestly. ;D
I bet the Predators prefer Rugby.
As an Everton fan I'm scared to post here now...
Quote from: Corporal Hicks on Jul 06, 2022, 12:41:42 PMI bet the Predators prefer Rugby.
(Insert obvious head injury joke here)
As an Ipswich fan, I have no idea what this "Premier League" thing is...
https://twitter.com/Whos_Nick/status/1545114096357347328
alright photoshoppers start going nuts
Quote from: Whos_Nick on Jul 07, 2022, 06:41:17 PMhttps://twitter.com/Whos_Nick/status/1545114096357347328
Right. So that further solidify my theory. Above manbiles are placed eye sockets and the mask does not cover them.
Also, the head of the creature looks to small and out of proportion.
Shared this in the article thread, but will do here as well. Brightened up on my phone really quick.IMG_3246.JPG
Quote from: Mike's Monsters on Jul 07, 2022, 08:11:33 PMShared this in the article thread, but will do here as well. Brightened up on my phone really quick.IMG_3246.JPG
Man I wanna get a look under that bone mask
Quote from: Doomofman on Jul 07, 2022, 08:19:26 PMQuote from: Mike's Monsters on Jul 07, 2022, 08:11:33 PMShared this in the article thread, but will do here as well. Brightened up on my phone really quick.IMG_3246.JPG
Man I wanna get a look under that bone mask
Soon my brother, soon.
Looking good.
Quote from: Master on Jul 07, 2022, 08:29:06 PMQuote from: Doomofman on Jul 07, 2022, 08:19:26 PMQuote from: Mike's Monsters on Jul 07, 2022, 08:11:33 PMShared this in the article thread, but will do here as well. Brightened up on my phone really quick.IMG_3246.JPG
Man I wanna get a look under that bone mask
Soon my brother, soon.
Please be good...🙏
**
Is there anyway to make it so the "jump to new post" button is visible on long thread titles? Didn't realize some of the threads had new posts.
Screenshot 2022-07-07 171004.jpg
Quote from: ace3g on Jul 07, 2022, 09:42:50 PMIs there anyway to make it so the "jump to new post" button is visible on long thread titles? Didn't realize some of the threads had new posts.
Screenshot 2022-07-07 171004.jpg
Agreed. That would be a very helpful feature.
Quote from: Mike's Monsters on Jul 07, 2022, 08:11:33 PMIMG_3246.JPG
Those mandibles are giving me Predalien vibes.
Is the predator wearing any armor on the body besides the arms and head?
Some sort of segmented kilt thing that could be leather or plate metal.
So the shield will be used also as a weapon.
Feral does have heat vision.
And Trachtenberg does make an emphasis on Naru taking out Feral on her own.
Spoiler
Get ready for a broken record effect soon below :laugh:
Yeah those really looking like exposed mandibles on the sides there. Getting a good look.
https://twitter.com/asadayaz/status/1545446069848326144 (https://twitter.com/asadayaz/status/1545446069848326144)
Don't think this has been posted here yet but Prey made the cover of SFX.
Sadly doesn't really give much of a better look at Feral but a good demonstration of where the laser is for anyone who was still wondering.
It's a nice little bit of artwork too
On sale July 13th apparently
Can't wait for new scans
https://twitter.com/SFXmagazine/status/1545444500599865348
Does anyone know what the run time of the film is yet? Is it under or over 2 hours?
Unknown at the moment.
No Predator movie has been over two hours so not expecting this to change that. They're all around the 105 minute mark.
It's streaming only and they don't have to worry about runtime as much so I can't see any reasons why not. In a world where we got 3-hour Batman movie we sure can get 2-hour Predator movie
We could, I'm not sure we should considering the type of story we got here.
Quote from: Kradan on Jul 09, 2022, 11:14:24 AMIt's streaming only and they don't have to worry about runtime as much so I can't see any reasons why not. In a world where we got 3-hour Batman movie we sure can get 2-hour Predator movie
Because it's expensive and they might not have a story that needs it?
Quote from: (Bad Blood) on Jul 09, 2022, 08:03:49 AMDoes anyone know what the run time of the film is yet? Is it under or over 2 hours?
I'll play it safe and say 101 minutes with credits.
So.......how 'bout dem Chucky movies?!
Yeah, what happened yesterday? I come here and Chucky is everywhere.
Hahahahaha
It's happeniiiiiiing!!
(https://i.ytimg.com/vi/gsh1JnzPNAI/maxresdefault.jpg)
Quote from: Darkness on Jul 13, 2022, 12:10:38 PMYeah, sorry about that. Somehow, the avpgalaxy domain had been deleted after an automated update went wrong. So it went to next domain which was a Chucky fansite I made years ago.
I will admit the Chucky page was really funny despite my concerns you guys got hacked. Might make for a good April fools gag in the future.
https://twitter.com/Comicpalooza/status/1547355236314087424
;)
Yeess
You get that bread!
After a bit of humming and hawing I decided to take the 5th off work, I was already off the Monday of that due to a bank holiday so now it's only a 3 day week that ends with Prey :)
That would be neat.
A timely tweet from Dane on the 'Feral' name
https://twitter.com/DDNumeroUno/status/1547572931168833538?s=20&t=rbrv7b2KtxftZriQUyHoRg
Dane over there tooting his own horn. 8) I do like Primal as well. I think that's a fierce name.
Quote from: Corporal Hicks on Jul 14, 2022, 09:01:22 AM"https://twitter.com/DannyTRS/status/1547240361684135936?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw"
"https://twitter.com/DDNumeroUno/status/1547476110371348480?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw"
;)
That's awesome! Can't wait to hear about the production.
Quote from: Corporal Hicks on Jul 14, 2022, 09:01:22 AM<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Would be awesome!</p>— Dan Trachtenberg (@DannyTRS) <a href="https://twitter.com/DannyTRS/status/1547240361684135936?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">July 13, 2022</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">can i fan girl this?</p>— Dane DiLiegro (@DDNumeroUno) <a href="https://twitter.com/DDNumeroUno/status/1547476110371348480?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">July 14, 2022</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
;)
Wow! Way to go, Corporal Hicks! ;D
will be really cool to hear more of the bts story behind this one.
Congratulations team! That would be so awesome!
New cast/crew listing
Greg Hayes ... music scoring mixer
Yesi Ramirez ... SVP of Casting: Searchlight Pictures
Venu Victor ... head of fx: MPC
Bhavsar Ritesh ... Matchmove artist: Mr.X
Satoshi Yamazaki ... Bestboy grip: Additional photography
Vasawat Changtroraleke ... key animator
Josh Clark ... animator
https://www.gamesradar.com/predator-prey-design-dan-trachtenberg/?fbclid=IwAR0ibAu4alkyHeG7GMP60kITModg1-pYZ9L80WwYi5KzoSP-MLqBH00Iy6k
Posting this here, didn't see it anywhere else. Trachtenberg talks about how he wanted to make feral slimmer and less hulking.
Funnily enough, with what we saw of him as of right now, I don't find him slimmer than jungle hunter or city hunter actually.
Quote from: BigDaddyJohn on Jul 15, 2022, 11:31:08 AMhttps://www.gamesradar.com/predator-prey-design-dan-trachtenberg/?fbclid=IwAR0ibAu4alkyHeG7GMP60kITModg1-pYZ9L80WwYi5KzoSP-MLqBH00Iy6k
Posting this here, didn't see it anywhere else. Trachtenberg talks about how he wanted to make feral slimmer and less hulking.
Funnily enough, with what we saw of him as of right now, I don't find him slimmer than jungle hunter or city hunter actually.
Oh nice. Some cool bits of info in that interview. The one that stood out to me was
QuoteSo it's almost entirely a guy in a suit, but we've been able to find key ways to enhance it and hopefully trick the audience into feeling like, 'Oh man, this thing is a living, breathing creature'.
I think that's just the info from the SFX magazine we covered the other day.
Quote from: Corporal Hicks on Jul 15, 2022, 11:58:58 AMI think that's just the info from the SFX magazine we covered the other day.
You are correct. Shows how much I got distracted by the shiny new images in that article
3 weeks away!!!
Screenshot 2022-07-16 172506.jpg
I'm guessing Spyglass is one of the trappers who uses a... wait for it... spyglass?
What if Spyglass become important in the movie and survive ?
Spoiler
Hell no he'll get f**ked up :laugh:
Not long now, only 18 days ;D
Can't wait, just sucks we have to watch it with commercial breaks.
What commercial breaks? Are there commercials on Hulu?
Quote from: SiL on Jul 18, 2022, 01:22:09 AMWhat commercial breaks? Are there commercials on Hulu?
Yes, unless you pay for a certain tier. Base tiers have ads.
I'm so glad I don't live in America
Same. Disney + has no ads but there's also no free tier.
Quote from: BlueMarsalis79 on Jul 18, 2022, 01:24:32 AMI'm so glad I don't live in America
Capitalism is god here. These streaming services in general somehow missed the fact that people wanted to see content that don't have ads, hence why we pay for them. At that point we might as well go back to watching TV channels again as its almost the same shit.
f**k me Naru looks intense.
(https://64.media.tumblr.com/b84c88e592db30860b48371b51406cb3/2dc9c15d0c86330a-90/s250x250_c1/4d19338debfc96a58abf098425cf0cac1cc32df3.gif)
Getting really really hyped now.
They did a really good job at not spoiling too much I must say, this is great.
Quote from: ace3g on Jul 18, 2022, 04:21:21 AMhttps://www.instagram.com/p/CgI0S0Br_8d/
She is so hot. This still must be close to the end. Probably near when Feral leaps at her unmasked.
https://twitter.com/DannyTRS/status/1549132665667825665
Screenshot 2022-07-18 170021.jpg
Screenshot 2022-07-18 170051.jpg
https://twitter.com/AshleyDvorkin/status/1549155654073364480
https://twitter.com/ashbanner82/status/1549108195074969611
These images of her going into a face-to-face fight with the Predator worry me
https://twitter.com/tribecalledgeek/status/1549175993696284673
I believe we'll be seeing those interviews on Thursday.
Quote from: LSL on Jul 18, 2022, 11:10:07 PMThese images of her going into a face-to-face fight with the Predator worry me
My spin on an often misquoted quote..
"Hell has no fury like a woman's rage..."
Quote from: LSL on Jul 18, 2022, 11:10:07 PMThese images of her going into a face-to-face fight with the Predator worry me
Gotta be honest, same here. I hope thats just a still thats meant to look badass, and shes actually trying to dodge and evade him in the actual scene.
If their fight ends with her just beating and killing him in 1v1 close quarter combat, then that might ruin the entire ending of the movie for me.
Cause that would clash with basically every movie weve seen before.
The very point of the final battle in P1 was that when Dutch tried that, he got his ass handed to him spectacularly. He needed pure luck and a big trap.
And even in P2, the wounded City Hunter (who was covered in liquid nitrogen, took multiple shotgun slugs to the torso, and had his arm cut off) was absolutely stomping Harrigan until the latter landed a surprise hit after feigning defeat.
But im optimistic, what weve seen so far looks amazing. So im just a tiny bit worried. Mostly hyped af.
In the latest interview with Midthunder and Trachtenberg, they specifically say it's a bad idea to go 1vs1 with a predator.
I don't think she will, at least not for very long.
I'm sure there's context to that image we don't know about. Maybe it's wounded, blinded, disoriented, maybe they're only that close because it's ambushed her and that's not where she wants to be etc. I'm not expecting her to suddenly realise she can uppercut the Predator into orbit during the last act of the film (though that'd be quite an image!).
https://twitter.com/PhotosByBeanz/status/1549391430648582147
New still (looking for source)
(https://s8d4.turboimg.net/sp/2691b01d4697fde8e058a4b0d4cce7b5/pre16.jpg)
https://twitter.com/Kakuchopurei/status/1549415792277458945
https://twitter.com/Kakuchopurei/status/1549413407660851203
https://twitter.com/BackstageOL/status/1549494869021933569
So could the advance reviews start popping up soon?
Probably whenever that fan screening is, the 21st I think?
Dan mentions in the video interview that based on how the suit design worked, the predator head was resting on top of Dane's head.
Quote from: ace3g on Jul 19, 2022, 10:30:31 PMDan mentions in the video interview that based on how the suit design worked, the predator head was resting on top of Dane's head.
And he's already like 6.7 right? So maybe another foot on top of that
The internet lists him at 6ft9.
Quote from: ace3g on Jul 19, 2022, 09:36:30 PMNew still (looking for source)
https://s8d4.turboimg.net/sp/2691b01d4697fde8e058a4b0d4cce7b5/pre16.jpg
Nice touch that Naru is making a Predator pose right there.
Still looking great but I think I'm going to lay off watching anymore teasers/trailers cos they might well end up showing too much
https://twitter.com/colliderfrosty/status/1549856909351538689?t=emNOTSIpIb5HEg_ORgmSAg&s=19
https://twitter.com/Kakuchopurei/status/1549801906435792896
https://twitter.com/Kakuchopurei/status/1549800196087107584
https://twitter.com/cinelinx/status/1549807426026835969
In case it hasn't been posted yet. Amber Midthunder Prey interview
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ub_oPW5oiYA
Alrighty, the spoilers are going to be out there in a matter of hours so this is where I'll be taking my leave for the next couple of weeks!
Catch you on the flip flop everyone!
(https://i.imgur.com/a3DZmHy.gif?noredirect)
Quote from: Kailem on Jul 21, 2022, 10:59:54 PMAlrighty, the spoilers are going to be out there in a matter of hours so this is where I'll be taking my leave for the next couple of weeks!
Catch you on the flip flop everyone!
https://i.imgur.com/a3DZmHy.gif?noredirect
(https://c.tenor.com/sFOPuq3XBqgAAAAC/pirates-of-the-carribean-jack-sparrow.gif)
https://twitter.com/20thcentury/status/1550315158789992450
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FYPJpAfUIAApxE9?format=jpg&name=large)
QuoteI had the privilege of working with @dannytrs and @20thcenturystudios to produce a poster for the SDCC world premiere of Prey.
The movie is a blast, and @ambermidthunder rocks! Catch Prey from Aug 5 on @hulu (or @disneyplusuk in the U.K.)
Quote from: ace3g on Jul 22, 2022, 03:14:11 AMhttps://twitter.com/20thcentury/status/1550315158789992450
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FYPJpAfUIAApxE9?format=jpg&name=large
QuoteI had the privilege of working with @dannytrs and @20thcenturystudios to produce a poster for the SDCC world premiere of Prey.
The movie is a blast, and @ambermidthunder rocks! Catch Prey from Aug 5 on @hulu (or @disneyplusuk in the U.K.)
https://www.instagram.com/p/CgTW4v1oqU-/
It's like the wristblades all over again.
Talks about his reaction to the film and how he views it compared to previous predator movies.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KrGXQbRjRWA
Yep, that's the one I saw where he mentions the runtime being 90 minutes.
I watch some of their reaction stuff and tend to enjoy the same kind of stuff they do so that makes me feel even better about it
Man it seems too good to be true that there is now a lingering possibility that we may finally be getting something solid after so many let downs over almost 2 decades of post P2 sequels.
I'm still not sold until i see it for myself but my confidence is now quietley growing.
If this is indeed "the one" it will be even more of a shame that we can't get to see on the big screen.
Quote from: Hollywood on Jul 22, 2022, 04:01:14 PMTalks about his reaction to the film and how he views it compared to previous predator movies.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KrGXQbRjRWA
Good to see RR have a positive view on the movie, i watch alot of there videos and they seem to have a fairly good nose for decent/shit movies so this kind of takes my scepticism meter down from 9/10 to maybe a 7.
Also noticed a few more positive reactions popping up on Joblo, hope these aren't a repost:
https://twitter.com/CorgiKohmander/status/1550348237952823296?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1550348237952823296%7Ctwgr%5E%7Ctwcon%5Es1_c10&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.joblo.com%2Fprey-early-reactions-predator%2F
https://twitter.com/TheEricGoldman/status/1550380861081587712?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1550380861081587712%7Ctwgr%5E%7Ctwcon%5Es1_c10&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.joblo.com%2Fprey-early-reactions-predator%2F
https://twitter.com/LaOficinaGeek/status/1550431627536375808?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1550431627536375808%7Ctwgr%5E%7Ctwcon%5Es1_c10&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.joblo.com%2Fprey-early-reactions-predator%2F
https://twitter.com/cfsvillanueva/status/1550345400342974465?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1550345400342974465%7Ctwgr%5E%7Ctwcon%5Es1_c10&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.joblo.com%2Fprey-early-reactions-predator%2F
https://twitter.com/heavyspoilers/status/1550392996708876288?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1550392996708876288%7Ctwgr%5E%7Ctwcon%5Es1_c10&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.joblo.com%2Fprey-early-reactions-predator%2F
https://twitter.com/shannon_mcgrew/status/1550344891942707200?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1550344891942707200%7Ctwgr%5E%7Ctwcon%5Es1_c10&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.joblo.com%2Fprey-early-reactions-predator%2F
https://twitter.com/childe_dirk/status/1550344891196227584?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1550344891196227584%7Ctwgr%5E%7Ctwcon%5Es1_c10&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.joblo.com%2Fprey-early-reactions-predator%2F
https://twitter.com/PNemiroff/status/1550351940915118081?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1550351940915118081%7Ctwgr%5E%7Ctwcon%5Es1_c10&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.joblo.com%2Fprey-early-reactions-predator%2F
https://twitter.com/FicoCangiano/status/1550345990007271424?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1550345990007271424%7Ctwgr%5E%7Ctwcon%5Es1_c10&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.joblo.com%2Fprey-early-reactions-predator%2F
*In a Morpheus voice*
I'm beginning to believe
Quote from: Doomofman on Jul 22, 2022, 06:53:11 PM*In a Morpheus voice*
I'm beginning to believe
All of our lives we have fought this war...
Meaning, I've really been waiting for this for about 25 years.
Well, the hype is through the roof now.
Now I need to figure out how to see the movie in the best format the earliest.
Quote from: Wweyland on Jul 22, 2022, 07:21:06 PMQuote from: Doomofman on Jul 22, 2022, 06:53:11 PM*In a Morpheus voice*
I'm beginning to believe
All of our lives we have fought this war...
Meaning, I've really been waiting for this for about 25 years.
Well, the hype is through the roof now.
Now I need to figure out how to see the movie in the best format the earliest.
This is my big annoyance with the Hulu/Disney+ thing is the 'best format' I have access to is my own TV and soundbar.
I at least took the day off work so I can sit down with some snacks with the curtains closed and nothing else to distract me and make the most of what I have
Probably the same for me, a quiet sitting for myself only.
Then a bigger sitting with some friends and beers.
Quote from: Doomofman on Jul 22, 2022, 07:28:37 PMQuote from: Wweyland on Jul 22, 2022, 07:21:06 PMQuote from: Doomofman on Jul 22, 2022, 06:53:11 PM*In a Morpheus voice*
I'm beginning to believe
All of our lives we have fought this war...
Meaning, I've really been waiting for this for about 25 years.
Well, the hype is through the roof now.
Now I need to figure out how to see the movie in the best format the earliest.
This is my big annoyance with the Hulu/Disney+ thing is the 'best format' I have access to is my own TV and soundbar.
I at least took the day off work so I can sit down with some snacks with the curtains closed and nothing else to distract me and make the most of what I have
A big positive is that once you've done the first viewing you can rematch it again soon after.
When I'm hyped for a film I sometimes have a hard time taking it all in. Can watch this as many times as you like now.
Slightly new poster
https://twitter.com/20thcentury/status/1550526188879130624
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FYSRAtCVQAAr4hQ?format=jpg&name=large)
https://twitter.com/Predator/status/1550535092203794432
https://twitter.com/cinelinx/status/1550166233299013632
Im so confused as to why they made Feral practically the size of Godzilla in that poster...
I was thinking it illustrated the David vs Goliath battle
Exactly this. It's just to emphasize that theme.
https://twitter.com/NECA_TOYS/status/1550679107481919489
Quote from: ace3g on Jul 23, 2022, 12:54:18 PMhttps://twitter.com/NECA_TOYS/status/1550679107481919489
Nice, another to add to my small collection
After watching the spoiler free review, I'm going to take Adam and Mikey's advice and (for the first time with any movie in the Alien/Predator franchise since probably AvP) not read any more spoilers about it and just look forward to and enjoy it Friday night after next.
Looking forward to it, and expecting to see the post count about 5 times higher than it is now by the time I look here again!
Hope everyone enjoys Prey, how we need a good Predator film to reminisce over and dissect for months and years to come.
https://twitter.com/mikes_monsters/status/1551032326787715072
Quote from: Marc505 on Jul 23, 2022, 05:57:43 PMAfter watching the spoiler free review, I'm going to take Adam and Mikey's advice and (for the first time with any movie in the Alien/Predator franchise since probably AvP) not read any more spoilers about it and just look forward to and enjoy it Friday night after next.
Yeah, same here. I've watched Adams and Mikey's reactions and that's it for me, until August 5th.
Quote from: Space_Dementia on Jul 24, 2022, 02:26:19 PMQuote from: Marc505 on Jul 23, 2022, 05:57:43 PMAfter watching the spoiler free review, I'm going to take Adam and Mikey's advice and (for the first time with any movie in the Alien/Predator franchise since probably AvP) not read any more spoilers about it and just look forward to and enjoy it Friday night after next.
Yeah, same here. I've watched Adams and Mikey's reactions and that's it for me, until August 5th.
I'm considering doing the same, but I've gotten into the routine of visiting the forum regularly the last while. Hopefully big spoilers can stick to that Synopsis Spoiler thread
For now I've done a marvelous job at dodging spoiler bullets, except for one tiny thing that slipped through. I've grown from The Predator days. I am kinda proud lol.
All the spoilers I've got are from the trailer that I already knew and figured on account of this franchise not breaking from tradition at this point. I intentionally looked for one so I'm not annoyed with it later, which yeah I don't know why that had to change. Like it's a detail only we care about, but the GA wouldn't. Which is to say it changes nothing but some difference in context, but other than that it's just an odd thing to do at all since nobody likes getting told "well actually".
I'm so excited I feel like I'm gonna f**king explode.
https://twitter.com/20thcenturyKR/status/1551869945201524739
decloaking tease.. sound effects are different.
I've officially blocked mentions of the words "Predator" and "Prey" on my Twitter feed. Going to go into this thing unspoiled in a couple weeks.
I remember that Campea guy wasn't shy about how much he hated The Predator so it's good to see he highly recommends audiences watch Prey as soon as they can 👍
Quote from: Hollywood on Jul 26, 2022, 12:47:06 PMI remember that Campea guy wasn't shy about how much he hated The Predator so it's good to see he highly recommends audiences watch Prey as soon as they can 👍
Personally, I would not trust him on his movie takes.
I don't trust anyone at face value, but I trust the general impressions I'm getting from all the buzz is genuine.
Can't wait to hear Mr Aaron's thoughts on Prey.
I have a gut feeling Corporal will probably love it. Which is unfortunate since you can't make 3 hour discussion of overwhelming praise
Loved these guys for many years now and they've been doing a lead up to Prey.
AvPGalaxy makes a very brief cameo around the 15:30 mark!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x-u8EWKloKw
Quote from: Mike's Monsters on Jul 26, 2022, 07:31:41 PMLoved these guys for many years now and they've been doing a lead up to Prey.
AvPGalaxy makes a very brief cameo around the 15:30 mark!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x-u8EWKloKw
That video was very entertaining, thanks for posting, hadn't heard of them before now
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qvybEGmLNbMPREY signing @ Forbidden Plant Dan Trachtenberg, Amber Midthunder and Jhane Myers 25th July 2022
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5dInm9VbvCg
Quote from: Doomofman on Jul 26, 2022, 07:56:53 PMQuote from: Mike's Monsters on Jul 26, 2022, 07:31:41 PMLoved these guys for many years now and they've been doing a lead up to Prey.
AvPGalaxy makes a very brief cameo around the 15:30 mark!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x-u8EWKloKw
That video was very entertaining, thanks for posting, hadn't heard of them before now
Highly recommend a subscribe to them. They've given me plenty of laughs since 2015.
The hype is getting to unreal levels.
I'm trying to avoid spoilers and have accidentally read 2 different ones that contradict each other.
So there's still hope I'm not spoiled.
I didn't have high expectations for this and after watching the trailers I have even less. Hopefully I'm pleasantly surprised.
Quote from: Firestorm on Jul 26, 2022, 11:29:26 PMQuote from: von on Jul 26, 2022, 05:39:45 AMhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qHE6Jhm0xvo
Another video from the same dude:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NmhO8k1fpSA
I like that he addresses his viewpoint of how the fight holds up despite the antagonist vs protagonist seeming so one-sided. I'll have to see for myself but I'm looking forward to seeing Naru's ingenuity.
New article in August's issue of Total Film. New still below and the scans. Not that much new. They said they did an early screening of the film at the Comanche Nation in Oklahoma to get their feedback.
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Quote from: Wweyland on Jul 26, 2022, 08:42:40 PMThe hype is getting to unreal levels.
I'm trying to avoid spoilers and have accidentally read 2 different ones that contradict each other.
So there's still hope I'm not spoiled.
I'm pretty much just not reading our watching anything more about the movie until I get to watch it, now.
New NME article/Director interview:
https://www.nme.com/features/film-interviews/prey-predator-prequel-interview-horror-3277957
Couple of new behind-the-scenes shots in that article too:
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Another post-view interview with Dan: https://uproxx.com/movies/prey-dan-trachtenberg-interview/
Prey in Times Square:
https://twitter.com/asadayaz/status/1552660419650564096
I hope we actually get some behind the scenes stuff for Prey. Does anyone know if that actually happens for Hulu/Disney+ releases?
Quote from: Doomofman on Jul 28, 2022, 03:22:33 PMI hope we actually get some behind the scenes stuff for Prey. Does anyone know if that actually happens for Hulu/Disney+ releases?
I've seen things pop up on Disney+ that are like making-of documentaries for things like the mandalorian. I never watched those though, so I don't know how in depth they went. Haven't seen anything like that on Hulu yet either.
I have a new found respect for Dan it sounds like he does care about the presentation. CAN SOMEONE PASS DAN A MESSAGE TO MAKE THE MOVIE ON THE ELDER AND FLINTLOCK STORY! Lol hopefully this opens up the door for more period pieced predator movies
Does the film state when exactly it takes place? Is there a title card about this or the location?
Quote from: Wweyland on Jul 28, 2022, 06:40:14 PMDoes the film state when exactly it takes place? Is there a title card about this or the location?
1719
1 week away!!!
Quote from: Engineer on Jul 28, 2022, 07:35:50 PMQuote from: Wweyland on Jul 28, 2022, 06:40:14 PMDoes the film state when exactly it takes place? Is there a title card about this or the location?
1719
Wait, I keep hearing that its set 300 years ago so it would be in 1722?
300 is close enough to 303 geez.
Quote from: Mr.Turok on Jul 29, 2022, 05:21:40 AMQuote from: Engineer on Jul 28, 2022, 07:35:50 PMQuote from: Wweyland on Jul 28, 2022, 06:40:14 PMDoes the film state when exactly it takes place? Is there a title card about this or the location?
1719
Wait, I keep hearing that its set 300 years ago so it would be in 1722?
What about the month?
More positive and spoiler free reactions popping up on YouTube..
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wIVTMjSaAZshttps://youtube.com/shorts/NfK6qSG4cZo?feature=share
I don't know if this has been brought up, but if I've got the Hulu subscription that has ads, does that mean this movie will get interrupted by ads every 15 minutes or whatever?
It will.
Another director desperately trying to convince punters that this new film captures what was great about the original. But it just doesn't stack up. The original had a stellar cast, a proper director and was a true big screen event. This stars a bunch of kids nobody's heard of, the studio only thinks its worth streaming, and you just know that it will do what every other lame-ass dead on its knees franchise does - it will use the pistol from the end of Predator 2 to try and give this more cred.
Predator was McTiernan's second film, same as this is Trachtenburg's, and his first was held in pretty high regard.
I'm really starting to lose my patience with how people are interacting with those they disagree with. Rise above it please.
Quote from: Xenomrph on Jul 29, 2022, 08:28:43 AMI don't know if this has been brought up, but if I've got the Hulu subscription that has ads, does that mean this movie will get interrupted by ads every 15 minutes or whatever?
Isn't capitalism magical ?
Chuffed that those who've actually seen the film are full of praise. Simplicity is key. Looking forward to this.
Quote from: SiL on Jul 29, 2022, 05:23:04 AM300 is close enough to 303 geez.
I don't get it. I just wanted clarification of the timeline.
I remember when it became known that Disney wanted to move forward with both the Alien and Predator properties that there was a lot of concern that they would PG them. Definitely not the case.
Quote from: Mr.Turok on Jul 29, 2022, 01:25:23 PMQuote from: SiL on Jul 29, 2022, 05:23:04 AM300 is close enough to 303 geez.
I don't get it. I just wanted clarification of the timeline.
When people say "300 years ago" it doesn't always mean "exactly 300 years ago, no more no less"
Upgrade to Premium or upgrade to anywhere but America and you get it on Disney+
https://twitter.com/20thcentury/status/1553072954476400640
https://twitter.com/guardian/status/1552976639029542912
Quote from: ace3g on Jul 29, 2022, 06:43:21 PMhttps://twitter.com/20thcentury/status/1553072954476400640
I don't like this "first hunt ever" business.
To be honest, all of that just kind of feels like marketing speak to me. I'd imagine there won't be anything in the film itself that'll explicitly state that no Predator had ever been to Earth before.
Quote from: Nightmare Asylum on Jul 30, 2022, 01:17:29 AMTo be honest, all of that just kind of feels like marketing speak to me. I'd imagine there won't be anything in the film itself that'll explicitly state that no Predator had ever been to Earth before.
I agree, but another kick in the teeth in the direction of AVP 2004, AVP Requiem and The Predator by extension will not go amiss though.
I put together all of the footage I grabbed from Prey's presence at SDCC. It's a short and sweet little video.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Tyw45rOy3U
Quote from: BlueMarsalis79 on Jul 30, 2022, 01:38:40 AMQuote from: Nightmare Asylum on Jul 30, 2022, 01:17:29 AMTo be honest, all of that just kind of feels like marketing speak to me. I'd imagine there won't be anything in the film itself that'll explicitly state that no Predator had ever been to Earth before.
I agree, but another kick in the teeth in the direction of AVP 2004, AVP Requiem and The Predator by extension will not go amiss though.
Sounds like throwing the baby out with the bathwater to me.
https://twitter.com/Nativeprof/status/1553164422620712960
small "extended" scene of Naru's dog, Sarii within interview at about 2:00 mark and video of Amber rehearsing with the dog.
Quote from: Xenomrph on Jul 30, 2022, 02:25:49 AMQuote from: BlueMarsalis79 on Jul 30, 2022, 01:38:40 AMQuote from: Nightmare Asylum on Jul 30, 2022, 01:17:29 AMTo be honest, all of that just kind of feels like marketing speak to me. I'd imagine there won't be anything in the film itself that'll explicitly state that no Predator had ever been to Earth before.
I agree, but another kick in the teeth in the direction of AVP 2004, AVP Requiem and The Predator by extension will not go amiss though.
Sounds like throwing the baby out with the bathwater to me.
It unnecessary and abit rude IMO. First of all there is no way to prove it on screen and second live older movies alone. Good or bad somone put heart into them.
Dan must be pissed off with the marketing around this. He's already said it's just Feral's first visit.
Probably wasn't a great idea to say it was anyone's first hunt in hindsight.
True. One of the appeals of Predator is, those creatures are bond with our history and are mentioned in cultures around the world. It was suggested in the very first film, they've been here before and is reinforced in every other installment (except two worst ones being AvP-R and The Predator :laugh: )
I like the concept not his fault marketing ran with it in a particular way though.
Concept is fine, marketing was always going to f**k it up.
Quote from: Corporal Hicks on Jul 30, 2022, 07:00:07 AMDan must be pissed off with the marketing around this. He's already said it's just Feral's first visit.
That's refreshing at least.
Quote from: SiL on Jul 30, 2022, 07:45:10 AMProbably wasn't a great idea to say it was anyone's first hunt in hindsight.
It's probably the way he got producers to fund the project. They talk money and easy ideas to get them to give the project money. John Davis is business and money smart, but whenever I hear him actually talk the brands in interviews or commentaries, I always get the sense he's only there because of the money and has no clue what's going on. Hence why someone said first hunt in a pitch and he wouldn't let it go in interviews, even after correction.
Do we have any idea when the review embargo for this lifts?
Quote from: Doomofman on Jul 31, 2022, 06:58:39 PMDo we have any idea when the review embargo for this lifts?
I think it's technically lifted now.
Most are just being respectful and not sharing story details. I'd assume spoiler reviews/discussions will drop the day of the release, or right before. I'm planning on trying to have one out around then.
I heard the embargo was in place until the 3rd? I'm finding it harder and harder not to go looking for spoilers so the later more stuff is released the better :-X
Quote from: Firestorm on Jul 31, 2022, 07:11:39 PMI heard the embargo was in place until the 3rd? I'm finding it harder and harder not to go looking for spoilers so the later more stuff is released the better :-X
If that's the case, they didn't tell us the screening lol. They just asked to not share spoilers. People have been able to share the initial reactions, which should be enough to tell you on quality. If it is the 3rd, I'd assume you'll get all the juicy details then. But I recommend holding out and watching the movie on your own!
Quote from: Mike's Monsters on Jul 31, 2022, 07:19:26 PMQuote from: Firestorm on Jul 31, 2022, 07:11:39 PMI heard the embargo was in place until the 3rd? I'm finding it harder and harder not to go looking for spoilers so the later more stuff is released the better :-X
If that's the case, they didn't tell us the screening lol. They just asked to not share spoilers. People have been able to share the initial reactions, which should be enough to tell you on quality. If it is the 3rd, I'd assume you'll get all the juicy details then. But I recommend holding out and watching the movie on your own!
Yeah man i'll definelty be watching this blind as by the sounds of it could be the best one in a long time, on a side note i dont think i've ever seen so much negativity towards an upcoming Alien or Predator release, especially the one that might just revive the franchise batman begins style, take this for instance:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6p-n52wWIFA
Quote from: Kudzu on Jul 31, 2022, 07:05:09 AMQuote from: Hollywood on Jul 29, 2022, 04:58:09 PMhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WXpaEWWsMYw
Ugh Grace, why would anyone book interviews on that toxic channel
I'd rather punch myself in the d*ck for an hour than listen to her voice for 20 mins, goes right through me.
Quote from: Firestorm on Jul 31, 2022, 07:32:47 PMQuote from: Mike's Monsters on Jul 31, 2022, 07:19:26 PMQuote from: Firestorm on Jul 31, 2022, 07:11:39 PMI heard the embargo was in place until the 3rd? I'm finding it harder and harder not to go looking for spoilers so the later more stuff is released the better :-X
If that's the case, they didn't tell us the screening lol. They just asked to not share spoilers. People have been able to share the initial reactions, which should be enough to tell you on quality. If it is the 3rd, I'd assume you'll get all the juicy details then. But I recommend holding out and watching the movie on your own!
Yeah man i'll definelty be watching this blind as by the sounds of it could be the best one in a long time, on a side note i dont think i've ever seen so much negativity towards an upcoming Alien or Predator release, especially the one that might just revive the franchise batman begins style, take this for instance:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6p-n52wWIFA
Quote from: Kudzu on Jul 31, 2022, 07:05:09 AMQuote from: Hollywood on Jul 29, 2022, 04:58:09 PMhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WXpaEWWsMYw
Ugh Grace, why would anyone book interviews on that toxic channel
I'd rather punch myself in the d*ck for an hour than listen to her voice for 20 mins, goes right through me.
Don't give people these people the time of day. This guy is factually incorrect the whole time he's talking.
So when exactly on the 5th is this going to drop? Exactly at midnight between 4-5th or the evening of 5th in what time zone?
Quote from: Wweyland on Jul 31, 2022, 10:26:09 PMSo when exactly on the 5th is this going to drop? Exactly at midnight between 4-5th or the evening of 5th in what time zone?
Likely midnight PST.
So the next day for the UK then... *Sigh*
Most places say Friday August fifth in the United Kingdom, but hopefully the Thursday night it will actually hit it.
Every streaming service seems to release things at different times from my experience. Netflix is Midnight PST, Prime is in the evening on Central Time. Not sure about Hulu.
Quote from: BlueMarsalis79 on Jul 31, 2022, 10:40:02 PMSo the next day for the UK then... *Sigh*
Most places say Friday August fifth in the United Kingdom, but hopefully the Thursday night it will actually hit it.
Yeah if it's midnight PST on the 5th it'll be 7am on the 5th UK time, which kinda sucks but tbh, I'm gonna be more into it the morning after a good night's sleep rather than being tired at a midnight drop
Quote from: BlueMarsalis79 on Jul 31, 2022, 10:40:02 PMSo the next day for the UK then... *Sigh*
Most places say Friday August fifth in the United Kingdom, but hopefully the Thursday night it will actually hit it.
Yeah 🤞🏻 Sometimes we get lucky.
As an Aussie, Friday Night would be perfect. Saturday kind of sucks, but it is what it is.
Quote from: Firestorm on Jul 31, 2022, 07:32:47 PMQuote from: Mike's Monsters on Jul 31, 2022, 07:19:26 PMQuote from: Firestorm on Jul 31, 2022, 07:11:39 PMI heard the embargo was in place until the 3rd? I'm finding it harder and harder not to go looking for spoilers so the later more stuff is released the better :-X
If that's the case, they didn't tell us the screening lol. They just asked to not share spoilers. People have been able to share the initial reactions, which should be enough to tell you on quality. If it is the 3rd, I'd assume you'll get all the juicy details then. But I recommend holding out and watching the movie on your own!
Yeah man i'll definelty be watching this blind as by the sounds of it could be the best one in a long time, on a side note i dont think i've ever seen so much negativity towards an upcoming Alien or Predator release, especially the one that might just revive the franchise batman begins style, take this for instance:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6p-n52wWIFA
Quote from: Kudzu on Jul 31, 2022, 07:05:09 AMQuote from: Hollywood on Jul 29, 2022, 04:58:09 PMhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WXpaEWWsMYw
Ugh Grace, why would anyone book interviews on that toxic channel
I'd rather punch myself in the d*ck for an hour than listen to her voice for 20 mins, goes right through me.
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Is there any chance they made the final battle believable? This is my biggest concern. Dutch struggled with the Predator, but a little girl is supposed kill off the Feral pred? The trailers look good but coupled with poor recent offerings in the universe and (until proven otherwise) completely unbelievable main character, this has a big chance of being another overhyped disappointment.
Little girl? She's a grown ass woman.
Quote from: KiramidHead on Aug 01, 2022, 12:15:54 AMLittle girl? She's a grown ass woman.
Whatever. Little woman takes out a predator that a highly trained Dutch struggled with. Really hard to make believable unless they just did a fantastically creative job with the story.
Quote from: Bobby Buttnugget on Aug 01, 2022, 12:18:25 AMQuote from: KiramidHead on Aug 01, 2022, 12:15:54 AMLittle girl? She's a grown ass woman.
Whatever. Little woman takes out a predator that a highly trained Dutch struggled with. Really hard to make believable unless they just did a fantastically creative job with the story.
She's highly trained in other methods that could put Dutch on his ass. Wait til you see the movie. The comments about her being a woman are getting so, so tired.
No they totally have her beating the Predator in a wrestling match ::)
What the f**k do people expect, honestly? How much of the kool aid does one need to drink that one actually thinks this anti-"woke" rhetoric has anything to do with reality?
Quote from: Mike's Monsters on Aug 01, 2022, 12:21:15 AMQuote from: Bobby Buttnugget on Aug 01, 2022, 12:18:25 AMQuote from: KiramidHead on Aug 01, 2022, 12:15:54 AMLittle girl? She's a grown ass woman.
Whatever. Little woman takes out a predator that a highly trained Dutch struggled with. Really hard to make believable unless they just did a fantastically creative job with the story.
She's highly trained in other methods that could put Dutch on his ass. Wait till you see the movie. The comments about her being a woman are getting so, so tired.
Did you see the movie or just opining? So a way smaller "trained" indian would put the special forces trained Arnold on his ass? Seriously looking for any way this can be believable but I see we just have to go with the fantasy movie magic approach unless there is some genius writing involved. Based on 10 Cloverfield I doubt there will be any genius present.
He saw the film.
Quote from: SiL on Aug 01, 2022, 12:30:09 AMNo they totally have her beating the Predator in a wrestling match ::)
What the f**k do people expect, honestly? How much of the kool aid do you need to drink that you actually think this anti-"woke" rhetoric has anything to do with reality?
I didn't say anything about woke so stop whining about it. Insert small indian male and the same is true. Funny how literally no one has any idea to make it believable. Just because paid people have youtube reactions saying it is realistic doesn't mean much. People said good things about The Predator initially too.
Isn't anyone else tired off being disappointed by the predator and alien franchises?
Quote from: SiL on Aug 01, 2022, 12:34:44 AMHe saw the film.
And I should trust his vague opinion with no details?
Quote from: Bobby Buttnugget on Aug 01, 2022, 12:38:06 AMAnd I should trust his vague opinion with no details?
There's a thread with spoilers if you want more specifics.
Quote from: Bobby Buttnugget on Aug 01, 2022, 12:38:06 AMQuote from: SiL on Aug 01, 2022, 12:30:09 AMNo they totally have her beating the Predator in a wrestling match ::)
What the f**k do people expect, honestly? How much of the kool aid do you need to drink that you actually think this anti-"woke" rhetoric has anything to do with reality?
I didn't say anything about woke so stop whining about it. Insert small indian male and the same is true. Funny how literally no one has any idea to make it believable. Just because paid people have youtube reactions saying it is realistic doesn't mean much. People said good things about The Predator initially too.
Isn't anyone else tired off being disappointed by the predator and alien franchises?
Quote from: SiL on Aug 01, 2022, 12:34:44 AMHe saw the film.
And I should trust his vague opinion with no details?
You're not saying anything new, dude, eeeeeverybody has heard and read everything you're ranting about now and everyone is tired of it. Save your outrage, go cool off, watch the movie friday and then go off about it. You know some of us save getting pissed on a movie for after actually seeing it.
Quote from: Bobby Buttnugget on Aug 01, 2022, 12:31:26 AMQuote from: Mike's Monsters on Aug 01, 2022, 12:21:15 AMQuote from: Bobby Buttnugget on Aug 01, 2022, 12:18:25 AMQuote from: KiramidHead on Aug 01, 2022, 12:15:54 AMLittle girl? She's a grown ass woman.
Whatever. Little woman takes out a predator that a highly trained Dutch struggled with. Really hard to make believable unless they just did a fantastically creative job with the story.
She's highly trained in other methods that could put Dutch on his ass. Wait till you see the movie. The comments about her being a woman are getting so, so tired.
Did you see the movie or just opining? So a way smaller "trained" indian would put the special forces trained Arnold on his ass? Seriously looking for any way this can be believable but I see we just have to go with the fantasy movie magic approach unless there is some genius writing involved. Based on 10 Cloverfield I doubt there will be any genius present.
Yes, I saw the film and saw how she cleverly figured out how to deal with the situation because of the character development established in the film.
I'll be as vague as I want because I've been fine with not sharing exact spoilers as it's my choice to not go into details. And haven't wanted to answer the same questions over and over again, mind you. It's just that the "women not being able to A, B and C... because they're a woman" is getting so boring. I stand by the belief that Sarah Conner and Ripley would suffer the same lame arguments before their films even came out, if they were to be released in the present day as we know them.
But yes, she has methods of doing things that would put Dutch and everyone on his team on their asses if she had the opportunity. Watch the film and find out for yourself.
Trained doesn't always mean combat as well. I'm well trained in photography for example. I didn't say how or what she's trained in.
Quote from: Bobby Buttnugget on Aug 01, 2022, 12:38:06 AMI didn't say anything about woke so stop whining about it. Insert small indian male and the same is true. Funny how literally no one has any idea to make it believable. Just because paid people have youtube reactions saying it is realistic doesn't mean much. People said good things about The Predator initially too.
Isn't anyone else tired off being disappointed by the predator and alien franchises?
"everyone that disagrees with me is a shill"
Quote from: PAS Spinelli on Aug 01, 2022, 02:29:53 AM"everyone that disagrees with me is a shill"
I, for one, am welcoming my newly acquired title.
Shill me babyyyy.
"A girl?! You need GENIUS writing to make that work!"
Or just watch the movies.
Also it just occurred to me, the spike trap in Predator was right next to Dutch's bonfire - why didn't he just take the Predator straight there?
Seems like he could've killed the Predator without the beating he endured, almost like his wit and cunning was always more valuable than a direct fight.
Quote from: Mike's Monsters on Aug 01, 2022, 02:45:03 AMQuote from: PAS Spinelli on Aug 01, 2022, 02:29:53 AM"everyone that disagrees with me is a shill"
I, for one, am welcoming my newly acquired title.
Shill me babyyyy.
I shill hard and play hard.
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People are arguing with someone called Bobby Buttnugget? :-\ ;D
Quote from: Rankles75 on Aug 01, 2022, 07:35:34 AMPeople are arguing with someone called Bobby Buttnugget? :-\ ;D
I did want to say I quite enjoy his name.
Is anyone rewatching the other films before this? I would if I had the time.
Quote from: Wweyland on Aug 01, 2022, 07:42:32 AMIs anyone rewatching the other films before this? I would if I had the time.
I watched the first 3 films recently. Gave The Predator and the AVP films a miss.
Quote from: Wweyland on Aug 01, 2022, 07:42:32 AMIs anyone rewatching the other films before this? I would if I had the time.
We saw PREY last week but my wife hasn't seen most of the films in the series, so we decided to revisit everything including the AVP movies the last few days. We're right at the tail end of it and I have to find the energy to see Shane Black's THE PREDATOR (I haven't watched it since the test screening ages ago).
I saw Predators with my now-wife 12 years ago in the cinema. She wasn't impressed and hasn't watched a movie in the series since :D
Just a quick reminder for folk - when posting something in here that you think might be worth a news post, don't post it in here, give it it's own thread. :) That way we don't miss the important stuff. Thanks.
Quote from: Wweyland on Aug 01, 2022, 07:42:32 AMIs anyone rewatching the other films before this? I would if I had the time.
I just finished rewatching all the Predator ones this weekend. Skipped the AVPs
Like him or not Mr H has posted his review on YT and it's yet another thumbs up:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ewbt47NWlkM
Quote from: Firestorm on Aug 01, 2022, 08:34:16 PMLike him or not Mr H has posted his review on YT and it's yet another thumbs up:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ewbt47NWlkM
He has a pretty anti-woke audience and hopefully they'll change their tune about this one hearing him speak praise on the film. He gets it.
Quote from: Mike's Monsters on Aug 01, 2022, 08:36:54 PMQuote from: Firestorm on Aug 01, 2022, 08:34:16 PMLike him or not Mr H has posted his review on YT and it's yet another thumbs up:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ewbt47NWlkM
He has a pretty anti-woke audience and hopefully they'll change their tune about this one hearing him speak praise on the film. He gets it.
Yeah I hear that, I also saw you weighing in on that other idiots rambling YT rant I shared regarding the movie, well played, he deleted a few of the comments he had made including one where he accused me of being on Disneys payroll because I called him out 😂
Quote from: Firestorm on Aug 01, 2022, 08:47:19 PMQuote from: Mike's Monsters on Aug 01, 2022, 08:36:54 PMQuote from: Firestorm on Aug 01, 2022, 08:34:16 PMLike him or not Mr H has posted his review on YT and it's yet another thumbs up:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ewbt47NWlkM
He has a pretty anti-woke audience and hopefully they'll change their tune about this one hearing him speak praise on the film. He gets it.
Yeah I hear that, I also saw you weighing in on that other idiots rambling YT rant I shared regarding the movie, well played, he deleted a few of the comments he had made including one where he accused me of being on Disneys payroll because I called him out 😂
It's not hard to call out false information when the truth is well documented. Just ask the right questions and they'll get backed into a corner. He probably saw Mr. H's review and backtracked to delete those comments haha.
Another good review, great to hear
The comment section of that video is awful lol
"I was worried this was woke garbage!"
It's the audience he's cultivated sadly.
I stopped following him because of that, but it's good at least he liked Prey.
Quote from: SisterJill on Aug 01, 2022, 11:45:52 PMI stopped following him because of that, but it's good at least he liked Prey.
Same here.
Quote from: Firestorm on Aug 01, 2022, 08:34:16 PMLike him or not Mr H has posted his review on YT and it's yet another thumbs up:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ewbt47NWlkM
bold moves calling Dane better than Ian Whyte
Quote from: PAS Spinelli on Aug 01, 2022, 10:42:43 PMThe comment section of that video is awful lol
"I was worried this was woke garbage!"
i mean it's a fair point to have
because most movies/tv does that now.
It's getting old, the characters are all the same..
can't fail, not growing as a character
they are just perfect from the start.
so i can understand those comments and honestly im happy to that it aint woke.
it's like a breath of fresh air for once.
No, they don't.
They do.
Quote from: PredatorvsAliens on Aug 02, 2022, 10:06:17 AMQuote from: PAS Spinelli on Aug 01, 2022, 10:42:43 PMThe comment section of that video is awful lol
"I was worried this was woke garbage!"
i mean it's a fair point to have
because most movies/tv does that now.
It's getting old, the characters are all the same..
can't fail, not growing as a character
they are just perfect from the start.
so i can understand those comments and honestly im happy to that it aint woke.
it's like a breath of fresh air for once.
Oh please... This whole "Woke panic" thingy is so pathetic, it's getting so far fetched tt's like reading a flat-earther spilling out his nonsens, it's exhausting, the problem is so deeply rooted it's depressing to read, really.
We all know this "Mary Sue" bullshit is just the new excuse to say "I'd rather have no woman in the lead role of my movie please I have no explanation I just think they're less capables than men in general". Someone dug up that "Mary Sue" term and now it's like the secret password to unlock socially acceptable mysoginy, I mean almost EVERY male lead role in either action/horor/adventure/scifi movie or else are already "Gary Stu", litteraly you would switch them with a woman and all sort of questions suddenly would pops out like : "how can she do that", "how is she not dead ?", "How can she use this *insert object or weapons*, while she's untrained ?", "that's not character growth, that's a shortcut" etc.
Like someone already said here, Ripley or Sarah Conor would immediatly be put in the "W0k3 Ag3nD4/ Mary Sue" if their movies where to come out today.
Quote from: Spartansniper619 on Aug 02, 2022, 10:34:17 AMQuote from: PredatorvsAliens on Aug 02, 2022, 10:06:17 AMQuote from: PAS Spinelli on Aug 01, 2022, 10:42:43 PMThe comment section of that video is awful lol
"I was worried this was woke garbage!"
i mean it's a fair point to have
because most movies/tv does that now.
It's getting old, the characters are all the same..
can't fail, not growing as a character
they are just perfect from the start.
so i can understand those comments and honestly im happy to that it aint woke.
it's like a breath of fresh air for once.
Oh please... This whole "Woke panic" thingy is so pathetic, it's getting so far fetched tt's like reading a flat-earther spilling out his nonsens, it's exhausting, the problem is so deeply rooted it's depressing to read, really.
We all know this "Mary Sue" bullshit is just the new excuse to say "I'd rather have no woman in the lead role of my movie please I have no explanation I just think they're less capables than men in general". Someone dug up that "Mary Sue" term and now it's like the secret password to unlock socially acceptable mysoginy, I mean almost EVERY male lead role in either action/horor/adventure/scifi movie or else are already "Gary Stu", litteraly you would switch them with a woman and all sort of questions suddenly would pops out like : "how can she do that", "how is she not dead ?", "How can she use this *insert object or weapons*, while she's untrained ?", "that's not character growth, that's a shortcut" etc.
Like someone already said here, Ripley or Sarah Conor would immediatly be put in the "W0k3 Ag3nD4/ Mary Sue" if their movies where to come out today.
let's not take over the whole thread with this stuff
and lets get back on track.
Unfortunately this kind of thinking is so ingrained in the public discourse of the film talking about it IS on track.
Alrighty, let's leave it be here. This isn't the thread for it.
Not trying to be difficult, but what is the thread for it? Because it's endless and it will just keep coming up for the next couple of weeks/months.
Endlessly so...
There isn't one really, but will allow it in the review thread as long as it's being done without making me want to scratch my eyeballs out.
God help you friend.
Ok. It's time. The ammount of new promo is just overwhelming. See you after the premiere. Master signing off.
QuoteI would love to see Predator battle some Samurai. That would be pretty cool. That's a cool era; that's cool armor, and there's a high ceiling for artistic opportunity there I think.
-Dane
https://screenrant.com/prey-movie-predator-fight-samurai-idea-dane-diliegro/
https://twitter.com/scottderrickson/status/1554549349425758208
I haven't been spoiled on anything, last thing I watched was Ridgetop and Mike's impression video.
Excited to be going in mostly blind.
Not sure if it's been mentioned but I just watched the preview on Disney + for Prey.
It's going to stream in 4K, Dolby Vision and Dolby Atmos. 8)
Super pumped, my viewing of this at home will be better than the cinema could have provided. I really wasn't expecting them to go all out.
Looks like there's a fan showing taking place in Aussie right now. Should have some more fan reactions hitting Twitter after.
Embargo has came and went and barely any reviews around online, compared to every other release I've followed online since AVP back in 2004 this has really been a below the radar movie.
Quote from: Firestorm on Aug 03, 2022, 10:39:19 AMEmbargo has came and went and barely any reviews around online, compared to every other release I've followed online since AVP back in 2004 this has really been a below the radar movie.
to be fair it's only on streaming so of course it will be smaller.
and to be fair not that many cares for predator when you think about how many people there are in the world.
Quote from: Firestorm on Aug 03, 2022, 10:39:19 AMEmbargo has came and went and barely any reviews around online, compared to every other release I've followed online since AVP back in 2004 this has really been a below the radar movie.
Actually on Youtube you can see that all the schedules video reviews of the movies are set to come out at 6pm (at least for me, I'm from france so it's coming out at 18h here), so I'm not sure the embargo was lifted yet, maybe there's still a few hours left before they come out.
Yeah AVPGalaxy retweeted someone at the Aus screening and on the screen it says the review embargo is until 2am AEST on the 4th (which is about 4 hours from now) so that matches up with the 5pm UK time reviews hitting Youtube
Quote from: Firestorm on Aug 03, 2022, 10:39:19 AMEmbargo has came and went and barely any reviews around online, compared to every other release I've followed online since AVP back in 2004 this has really been a below the radar movie.
I heard embargo was Thursday.
So, does anyone know at what time us european peasants will see the movie available on Disney + ?
Quote from: BigDaddyJohn on Aug 03, 2022, 05:42:49 PMSo, does anyone know at what time us european peasants will see the movie available on Disney + ?
The current thinking is 12am PST so 7am UK time, 8am central European time. I think this is judging from other releases like the Star Wars series etc
Quote from: RidgeTop on Aug 03, 2022, 01:54:42 PMQuote from: Firestorm on Aug 03, 2022, 10:39:19 AMEmbargo has came and went and barely any reviews around online, compared to every other release I've followed online since AVP back in 2004 this has really been a below the radar movie.
I heard embargo was Thursday.
Well I heard wrong.
Quote from: Highland on Aug 03, 2022, 07:32:46 AMNot sure if it's been mentioned but I just watched the preview on Disney + for Prey.
It's going to stream in 4K, Dolby Vision and Dolby Atmos. 8)
Super pumped, my viewing of this at home will be better than the cinema could have provided. I really wasn't expecting them to go all out.
I have a 4K TV and when I select a 4K film (Marvel for example), on the film title page the description says HD. Should this say 4K? The settings are on automatic so says it will detect the best available.
Quote from: goose_3387 on Aug 03, 2022, 06:16:11 PMQuote from: Highland on Aug 03, 2022, 07:32:46 AMNot sure if it's been mentioned but I just watched the preview on Disney + for Prey.
It's going to stream in 4K, Dolby Vision and Dolby Atmos. 8)
Super pumped, my viewing of this at home will be better than the cinema could have provided. I really wasn't expecting them to go all out.
I have a 4K TV and when I select a 4K film (Marvel for example), on the film title page the description says HD. Should this say 4K? The settings are on automatic so says it will detect the best available.
For me it says 16+, 4K Ultra HD, Dolby Vision, Dolby Atmos
This is actually my first time watching the trailer on Disney+ and it looks great. The trailer is even Dolby Vision
Quote from: Doomofman on Aug 03, 2022, 06:21:17 PMQuote from: goose_3387 on Aug 03, 2022, 06:16:11 PMQuote from: Highland on Aug 03, 2022, 07:32:46 AMNot sure if it's been mentioned but I just watched the preview on Disney + for Prey.
It's going to stream in 4K, Dolby Vision and Dolby Atmos. 8)
Super pumped, my viewing of this at home will be better than the cinema could have provided. I really wasn't expecting them to go all out.
I have a 4K TV and when I select a 4K film (Marvel for example), on the film title page the description says HD. Should this say 4K? The settings are on automatic so says it will detect the best available.
For me it says 16+, 4K Ultra HD, Dolby Vision, Dolby Atmos
This is actually my first time watching the trailer on Disney+ and it looks great. The trailer is even Dolby Vision
Thanks. I'm definitely missing something somewhere then... 😬😬😬
Quote from: goose_3387 on Aug 03, 2022, 06:23:40 PMQuote from: Doomofman on Aug 03, 2022, 06:21:17 PMQuote from: goose_3387 on Aug 03, 2022, 06:16:11 PMQuote from: Highland on Aug 03, 2022, 07:32:46 AMNot sure if it's been mentioned but I just watched the preview on Disney + for Prey.
It's going to stream in 4K, Dolby Vision and Dolby Atmos. 8)
Super pumped, my viewing of this at home will be better than the cinema could have provided. I really wasn't expecting them to go all out.
I have a 4K TV and when I select a 4K film (Marvel for example), on the film title page the description says HD. Should this say 4K? The settings are on automatic so says it will detect the best available.
For me it says 16+, 4K Ultra HD, Dolby Vision, Dolby Atmos
This is actually my first time watching the trailer on Disney+ and it looks great. The trailer is even Dolby Vision
Thanks. I'm definitely missing something somewhere then... 😬😬😬
How are you accessing Disney+? I saw that on my TVs built in Disney+ app
Quote from: Doomofman on Aug 03, 2022, 06:24:58 PMQuote from: goose_3387 on Aug 03, 2022, 06:23:40 PMQuote from: Doomofman on Aug 03, 2022, 06:21:17 PMQuote from: goose_3387 on Aug 03, 2022, 06:16:11 PMQuote from: Highland on Aug 03, 2022, 07:32:46 AMNot sure if it's been mentioned but I just watched the preview on Disney + for Prey.
It's going to stream in 4K, Dolby Vision and Dolby Atmos. 8)
Super pumped, my viewing of this at home will be better than the cinema could have provided. I really wasn't expecting them to go all out.
I have a 4K TV and when I select a 4K film (Marvel for example), on the film title page the description says HD. Should this say 4K? The settings are on automatic so says it will detect the best available.
For me it says 16+, 4K Ultra HD, Dolby Vision, Dolby Atmos
This is actually my first time watching the trailer on Disney+ and it looks great. The trailer is even Dolby Vision
Thanks. I'm definitely missing something somewhere then... 😬😬😬
How are you accessing Disney+? I saw that on my TVs built in Disney+ app
I'm using the app via my Sky Q box. I will try logging in via the TV app tonight and see if that changes anything.
In South America it's coming to our local streamer Star+ and it's coming on 4K, Dolby Atmos, etc
but my TV doesn't support 4K so it'll be regular HD for me
Is it? Every place is saying it's coming out on D+, guess I'll wait till it's out to restart my subscription
Isn't Star part of D+ for you? Is here.
Oh no, I think specifically in Brazil Star+ is an entire separate streaming service lol
Some joke
Just caught this new BTS video on the Predator twitter account. I'm trying not to watch it
https://twitter.com/Predator/status/1554933966456532992
Yeah I'm brazilian and genuinely confused lol, I'll just wait till it releases ig
Quote from: Mr.Turok on Jul 29, 2022, 01:25:23 PMQuote from: SiL on Jul 29, 2022, 05:23:04 AM300 is close enough to 303 geez.
I don't get it. I just wanted clarification of the timeline.
Sorry for the late response.
But, yea, 1719. You can google it. "Prey 2022 setting." They've stated the year as 1719 previously, which is 300 years ago with a few insignificant years to spare.
I keep seeing a lot people guessing that the release will be midnight pacific time (US west coast) on august 5th. For Hulu, I'm pretty sure it's always midnight east coast time, so those of us on the west coast will get it 3 hrs early (9 pm august 4th). I base this on the release of new episodes of Hulu exclusive shows that I watch on a regular basis...
Plus I googled it and it says Prey releases 12 am EST Aug. 5th which would be 9 pm PST Aug. 4th.
Quote from: Engineer on Aug 04, 2022, 04:27:12 AMQuote from: Mr.Turok on Jul 29, 2022, 01:25:23 PMQuote from: SiL on Jul 29, 2022, 05:23:04 AM300 is close enough to 303 geez.
I don't get it. I just wanted clarification of the timeline.
Sorry for the late response.
But, yea, 1719. You can google it. "Prey 2022 setting." They've stated the year as 1719 previously, which is 300 years ago with a few insignificant years to spare.
I keep seeing a lot people guessing that the release will be midnight pacific time (US west coast) on august 5th. For Hulu, I'm pretty sure it's always midnight east coast time, so those of us on the west coast will get it 3 hrs early (9 pm august 4th). I base this on the release of new episodes of Hulu exclusive shows that I watch on a regular basis...
Plus I googled it and it says Prey releases 12 am EST Aug. 5th which would be 9 pm PST Aug. 4th.
So a little early than expected possible, makes no difference to me and probably most of the Europeans as it'd be like 5am if that's the case
Ok so the movie is appearing to be a very well made critical success. Awesome.
But what about financially. How exactly will Prey "make money" on Hulu? Where is the return on the investment in the film? How does that work with exclusive streaming movies?
New subscribers.
Quote from: goose_3387 on Aug 03, 2022, 06:16:11 PMQuote from: Highland on Aug 03, 2022, 07:32:46 AMNot sure if it's been mentioned but I just watched the preview on Disney + for Prey.
It's going to stream in 4K, Dolby Vision and Dolby Atmos. 8)
Super pumped, my viewing of this at home will be better than the cinema could have provided. I really wasn't expecting them to go all out.
I have a 4K TV and when I select a 4K film (Marvel for example), on the film title page the description says HD. Should this say 4K? The settings are on automatic so says it will detect the best available.
What TV do you have? There could be a setting that needs changed in the menu to enable 4K. The LG does. Also good call on the app. If you're using a skybox that doesnt support 4k it wont work.
I use the LG internal Disney + app.
Best way to check is to play some content and press the "information" button or " signal information", most TVs have one. You want to see it say 2160 instead of 1080 for the signal.
Also if your tv does not support Dolby Vision (Samsung's don't) you won't get Dolby Vision. It will still play in 4K though.
Quote from: Highland on Aug 04, 2022, 12:08:33 PMQuote from: goose_3387 on Aug 03, 2022, 06:16:11 PMQuote from: Highland on Aug 03, 2022, 07:32:46 AMNot sure if it's been mentioned but I just watched the preview on Disney + for Prey.
It's going to stream in 4K, Dolby Vision and Dolby Atmos. 8)
Super pumped, my viewing of this at home will be better than the cinema could have provided. I really wasn't expecting them to go all out.
I have a 4K TV and when I select a 4K film (Marvel for example), on the film title page the description says HD. Should this say 4K? The settings are on automatic so says it will detect the best available.
What TV do you have? There could be a setting that needs changed in the menu to enable 4K. The LG does. Also good call on the app. If you're using a skybox that doesnt support 4k it wont work.
I use the LG internal Disney + app.
Best way to check is to play some content and press the "information" button or " signal information", most TVs have one. You want to see it say 2160 instead of 1080 for the signal.
Hey.
Sorry, I was meant to post an update last night. I logged in via the TV app and everything is available in 4K (of the content that is 4K). Should have done this to start with. I guess the Sky box doesn't support 4K. 👎
Quote from: goose_3387 on Aug 04, 2022, 12:13:29 PMQuote from: Highland on Aug 04, 2022, 12:08:33 PMQuote from: goose_3387 on Aug 03, 2022, 06:16:11 PMQuote from: Highland on Aug 03, 2022, 07:32:46 AMNot sure if it's been mentioned but I just watched the preview on Disney + for Prey.
It's going to stream in 4K, Dolby Vision and Dolby Atmos. 8)
Super pumped, my viewing of this at home will be better than the cinema could have provided. I really wasn't expecting them to go all out.
I have a 4K TV and when I select a 4K film (Marvel for example), on the film title page the description says HD. Should this say 4K? The settings are on automatic so says it will detect the best available.
What TV do you have? There could be a setting that needs changed in the menu to enable 4K. The LG does. Also good call on the app. If you're using a skybox that doesnt support 4k it wont work.
I use the LG internal Disney + app.
Best way to check is to play some content and press the "information" button or " signal information", most TVs have one. You want to see it say 2160 instead of 1080 for the signal.
Hey.
Sorry, I was meant to post an update last night. I logged in via the TV app and everything is available in 4K (of the content that is 4K). Should have done this to start with. I guess the Sky box doesn't support 4K. 👎
Yeah more than likely. My box (not sky) does do 4K but I only use it for sport.
I reckon prey is going to look amazing if the trailer is anything to go by.
I'm in Australia so I'm interested to see if I get it at midnight 😂 More than likely not!
https://twitter.com/ShannonSprout/status/1555181608826802177
QuoteThe Prey release date is set for 3 a.m. ET/12 a.m. PT on Friday, Aug. 5.
https://www.comingsoon.net/movies/news/1233581-prey-release-date-time-on-streaming-of-predators-prequel-at-hulu?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter
Quote from: ace3g on Aug 04, 2022, 01:49:17 PMQuoteThe Prey release date is set for 3 a.m. ET/12 a.m. PT on Friday, Aug. 5.
https://www.comingsoon.net/movies/news/1233581-prey-release-date-time-on-streaming-of-predators-prequel-at-hulu?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter
So 7am UK time, 8am CET
Quote from: ace3g on Aug 04, 2022, 01:49:17 PMQuoteThe Prey release date is set for 3 a.m. ET/12 a.m. PT on Friday, Aug. 5.
https://www.comingsoon.net/movies/news/1233581-prey-release-date-time-on-streaming-of-predators-prequel-at-hulu?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter
Hulu always goes by ET. I don't think this is correct. I've seen a dozen other sites list it as 12 am ET which is how they've released all of their other exclusives. I guess we'll find out in 14 hours though lol
What's that in UTC time?
Quote from: Wweyland on Aug 04, 2022, 02:05:02 PMWhat's that in UTC time?
It's UTC-8 for PST so if Coming Soon are correct it'll be 8am UTC but if Engineer is right, it'll be 5am UTC
I'm still confused by these time formats. We should just have an hourly countdown :D
Quote from: Wweyland on Aug 04, 2022, 02:20:00 PMI'm still confused by these time formats. We should just have an hourly countdown :D
We are 12-15ish hours away from release
I hope it is 12am ET.
I promised my friends I'll watch it with them on saturday...
Just subbed to Disney+ and will be refreshing that page
We're in the end game now boys
Quote from: Wweyland on Aug 04, 2022, 07:52:22 PMJust subbed to Disney+ and will be refreshing that page
I'm doing the same. It's August 5, where is the movie 🤣😭
I guess still about 8h to go?
https://twitter.com/Predator/status/1555222034250080257
Odd they don't have a specific time...
But, yea, I'm still assuming it's Hulu's typical 12 am Eastern Time (about 5 hrs from now)
https://twitter.com/hulu_support/status/1555230067730546691?s=21&t=1i8Z3g_Ti01TJl4Yae2Klw
QuoteIn preparation for the launch of #Prey, here's a little BTS.
#SweetLilGalNamedSiri
8am in Australia, not out yet ! I'm saving it for the dark anyway 8)
It wouldn't be out till this evening our time.
Quote from: SiL on Aug 05, 2022, 12:10:14 AMIt wouldn't be out till this evening our time.
Yeah I figured, I really want to watch it pitch black so it'll work perfect 8)
https://twitter.com/DDNumeroUno/status/1555381320003358725
Possibly 30 minutes away!!!
It's live!!!
Quote from: ace3g on Aug 05, 2022, 02:33:48 AMhttps://twitter.com/DDNumeroUno/status/1555381320003358725
Possibly 30 minutes away!!!
It's live!!!
Yep! Went live at 9 pm west coast time (12 east coast) 🙂
Called it! Lol
Let's remember to keep the thoughts on the film in the review thread please :)
https://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/index.php?topic=65739.0
Specific topics are welcome to have new threads created for them.
Still no sign in Australia (Starts sweating)
They've changed the photo though.
Quote from: Highland on Aug 05, 2022, 06:47:30 AMStill no sign in Australia (Starts sweating)
They've changed the photo though.
Yikes! :o
Cancel that , we are a go
*Dutch hand signals
https://twitter.com/Powerless_ness/status/1555383237517578240
Today is a good day
Well I got the bundle now with Disney+ so I finally got Hulu. Today is a good day to do it. Unfortunately though I wont be able to watch it until after I get off work tonight, but I think that'll be good for hyping me up.
Also looking forward to NECA's presumably Ultimate Feral figure, hopefully masked :P Think they said it'd be August when they released details on it
How come I can't download the movie while on my disney+ account ? I know this option exists.
I've posted a list of kills in another thread if anyone wants to have a look and see if I missed anything. I don't think I did but I could be wrong!
Loved the movie!
Really loved the film.
Spoiler
Was surprised at the lack of connection using the pistol, no Greyback
.
Quote from: 426Buddy on Aug 05, 2022, 08:32:30 PMReally loved the film.
Spoiler
Was surprised at the lack of connection using the pistol, no Greyback
Spoiler
I liked it. I mentioned somewhere else, if we get a Prey sequel I hope the pistol just shows up in a similar way... The Pistol anthology :P 3 totally different predator movies in different eras/locations but the pistol is just hanging about somewhere in the background
QuoteA few of my favorite images from PREY, now streaming on HULU. It was a privilege to work along side director @dannytrs , cast members @ambermidthunder @dakota_beavers @dd @stormeeleekipp @tymoncarter_ @skyee.pelletier000 , and producers and crew @thejhane @tysonbreuer @jenn_din @georgebillinger @johnbailie @michael.c.fisher @warleo @alec_gillis @gomyo and amazing color by @jcodybaker_cc #preymovie #predator #hulu
Quote from: BigDaddyJohn on Aug 05, 2022, 02:31:11 PMHow come I can't download the movie while on my disney+ account ? I know this option exists.
That feature/option isn't always available for every movie/show. This must have been one where they didn't provide that option for some reason, maybe...
https://twitter.com/screenrant/status/1555589032947683328
https://twitter.com/slashfilm/status/1555662007159889921
https://twitter.com/slashfilm/status/1555630769262968837
Quote from: ace3g on Aug 05, 2022, 10:11:46 PMhttps://twitter.com/slashfilm/status/1555630769262968837
I don't get this line of thinking. The Predator's behaviour and mannerisms are informed by being a guy in a suit but it's always been worked into a strength, not a weakness. It's change for change's sake
As a french speaking Canadian, the only little nitpick I had with Prey was the french trappers' accent(s).
Those accents were totally inconsistent. Some of them had pretty noticable Quebec accents and others had some of the worst french I've ever heard. The syntax was all wrong. It was a bit distracting for me but I bet not a lot of you are ever going to notice it.
Don't get me wrong, this did not affect in any way my enjoyment of the movie.
And that was my little rant for of the day :)
I think Dan nailed it, I loved the movement and form of Ferals attacks.
Quote from: Feral_PRED on Aug 05, 2022, 11:28:07 PMAs a french speaking Canadian, the only little nitpick I had with Prey was the french trappers' accent(s).
Those accents were totally inconsistent. Some of them had pretty noticable Quebec accents and others had some of the worst french I've ever heard. The syntax was all wrong. It was a bit distracting for me but I bet not a lot of you are ever going to notice it.
Don't get me wrong, this did not affect in any way my enjoyment of the movie.
And that was my little rant for of the day :)
Oh thank God I thought I'd just forgotten more French than I realised.
Gotta say. I'm pretty disappointed that there are no proper subtitles for the Comanche dub. Only closed captions.
Quote from: Feral_PRED on Aug 05, 2022, 11:28:07 PMAs a french speaking Canadian, the only little nitpick I had with Prey was the french trappers' accent(s).
Those accents were totally inconsistent. Some of them had pretty noticable Quebec accents and others had some of the worst french I've ever heard. The syntax was all wrong. It was a bit distracting for me but I bet not a lot of you are ever going to notice it.
Don't get me wrong, this did not affect in any way my enjoyment of the movie.
And that was my little rant for of the day :)
I concur. My ears bled a little :laugh:
Quote from: Feral_PRED on Aug 05, 2022, 11:28:07 PMAs a french speaking Canadian, the only little nitpick I had with Prey was the french trappers' accent(s).
Those accents were totally inconsistent. Some of them had pretty noticable Quebec accents and others had some of the worst french I've ever heard. The syntax was all wrong. It was a bit distracting for me but I bet not a lot of you are ever going to notice it.
Don't get me wrong, this did not affect in any way my enjoyment of the movie.
And that was my little rant for of the day :)
I did NOT notice this lol
But I did notice the mountain lion roar (they don't roar like that lol) and the predators hands totally change half way through the movie.
The french language in this is truly horrendous, trust me on this one.
I was reading the French subtitles thinking write my French got worse. And it wasn't amazing to start.
And I thought the Polish in X-Men Apocalypse had issues...
Well there was an apocalypse in Prey. A linguistic one.
https://twitter.com/GovJVentura/status/1556118433732988928
https://twitter.com/GovJVentura/status/1556144501638447106
oscar winning director Barry Jenkins loved it:
https://twitter.com/BarryJenkins/status/1555780653953605633
Jesse's right. Dan's the best since Kevin.
Whyte was much better. Dane is generic bogeyman - but whether by performance or direction is unclear.
I'm 6 foot 8 and I volunteer to be in the costume in the next Predator movie for free.
Use that budget for something else, let me channel my inner Kevin Peter Hall.
I've seen the original hundreds of times and I know what I'm doing.
I'm not joking. If anyone from the studio or in contact with the studio is reading this, contact me.
I repeat, I will play your Predator for free (except meals and room of course).
Ian Whyte's amazing as the Last Engineer but as far as Predators go I'd rate Dane above him.
I wasn't a big fan of Ian Whyte's initial portrayal in AVP, but I thought he was fantastic in AVPR, and that to me remains the best since Kevin Peter Hall.
Quote from: SiL on Aug 07, 2022, 10:34:37 AMWhyte was much better. Dane is generic bogeyman - but whether by performance or direction is unclear.
There are grand shots in the film, but also shots where I instantly think: thats a dude standing in a dude fashion.
I'd say Wolf's movements were the better ones after P2.
Although I didn't hate Dane's performance here, or Brian A Prince in The Predator also.
I liked Prince in The Predator, and liked both of Whyte's performances.
https://twitter.com/slashfilm/status/1556385452126605312
https://www.slashfilm.com/954769/prey-cinematographer-jeff-cutter-on-the-challenges-of-filming-a-predator-movie-spoiler-interview/
Prey Cinematographer Jeff Cutter On The Challenges Of Filming A Predator Movie [Spoiler Interview]
https://twitter.com/DannyTRS/status/1556419504363540481
https://twitter.com/DannyTRS/status/1556302342995079168
Lol missed that. Thought french
https://twitter.com/empiremagazine/status/1556667094330212352
Isn't it time we dropped "Skulls" from the title of this thread? It triggers me. >:(
https://twitter.com/TheLegendKuyaP/status/1556745097764605956
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eOMt0so3NUk
Quote from: Local Trouble on Aug 08, 2022, 10:27:27 PMIsn't it time we dropped "Skulls" from the title of this thread? It triggers me. >:(
Done.
https://twitter.com/RealBillDuke/status/1556831239973154816
Quote from: Local Trouble on Aug 08, 2022, 10:27:27 PMIsn't it time we dropped "Skulls" from the title of this thread? It triggers me. >:(
Petition to bring "Skulls" back into the title of the thread
Seconded
Thirded. ;)
https://twitter.com/complexpop/status/1557084411178393609?s=21&t=or5sqlouZP_OQcMkEr8E3g
predator Artist, @BrentLearned, is a citizen of the Cheyenne/Arapaho tribes and he created this piece inspired by #Prey and his culture. Brent worked closely with Producer, Jhane Myers, on developing the Native art shown in the end credits of the film.
https://twitter.com/ScottWamplerBMD/status/1557465238227894275
https://twitter.com/THR/status/1557080294515163137
Doing it the way they did leaves it open to interpretation as to whether or not the Predators returned in 2, 10 or 50 years. Having it be an actual, filmed scene would have made it too specific I think, and immediately set up expectations for a direct sequel featuring Naru again, when that might not ever be the case.
So yeah, I liked the way they did it here.
I'm in solid agreement there.
it gets the imagination going, which is perfect
https://twitter.com/DannyTRS/status/1557784367568601088
Might have a hint at a physical release from 20CS president.
https://twitter.com/steveasbell/status/1557795371014729728?s=21&t=iiBnbspND9BVLCHwuHLTvg
please, please let this happen. and while we're at it maybe give the others new 4K's as well?
Just the mask and not Feral himself, but it's still better than nothing!
https://twitter.com/IllFonic/status/1557817493787385857?s=20&t=WBVX1teVGJSW7wyBPu0koQ
https://twitter.com/alastairneil29/status/1557812400941895680
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FZ-LdScX0AAwIlH?format=jpg&name=medium)
In case anyone is interested
(I don't care for screenrant but I don't see any other translations so far)
https://screenrant.com/prey-movie-french-dialogue-translation/amp/
https://twitter.com/DannyTRS/status/1558198974162489344
https://twitter.com/DDNumeroUno/status/1558183062197784576
Didn't realise it wasn't in HDR already. Though my TV isn't a proper HDR TV so not sure I'll see much benefit. But another reason to check it out sure
It was released in Dolby Vision and 4K in Australia right off the bat. Was great.
Just learned the PS5 hulu app doesn't support 4K HDR yet, so that's fun.
DD has posted a story to his Insta account which appears to be taken in his house, looks like he may have a souvenir from the movie hanging proudly on his wall, more importantly he flips it round and gives us an interesting view of the inside of ferals mask, pretty cool:
(https://i.ibb.co/72V9XzM/670-F47-D0-3730-4-FD6-80-D0-FC7-A9-C169308.png) (https://ibb.co/72V9XzM) (https://i.ibb.co/SfpnjWR/93-BD98-A7-FA37-4-FAA-AB2-D-EB85-D83144-E7.png) (https://ibb.co/SfpnjWR) (https://i.ibb.co/k9D9KFs/A6-A48685-0175-45-EA-AE98-53-B1-BBF451-EA.png) (https://ibb.co/k9D9KFs)
Thank you for posting this here.
https://twitter.com/jaythechou/status/1558335594828218368?s=20&t=FmMrZpeyOfMTsumsDwO3Ow
He surely hates Feral for obvious reasons now.
Quote from: Highland on Aug 12, 2022, 11:36:39 PMIt was released in Dolby Vision and 4K in Australia right off the bat. Was great.
Ah that's it. It was in Dolby Vision when I watched it first time too... I just equate Dolby Vision and HDR so I'm guessing it's not available in one of the other HDR formats
Quote from: Doomofman on Aug 13, 2022, 02:43:20 PMQuote from: Highland on Aug 12, 2022, 11:36:39 PMIt was released in Dolby Vision and 4K in Australia right off the bat. Was great.
Ah that's it. It was in Dolby Vision when I watched it first time too... I just equate Dolby Vision and HDR so I'm guessing it's not available in one of the other HDR formats
I think when they are saying HDR, they must mean HDR10+ ( which is just another version of Dolby vision).
Unless in the USA they are still watching films in standard definition which would be crazy. Almost all content on streaming is HD at a minimum.
https://twitter.com/DannyTRS/status/1558659502131404800
https://twitter.com/StephenKing/status/1558571056935362560?s=20&t=Hm2U9bD_o2CX2G1npGyqXg
https://twitter.com/DannyTRS/status/1558975326364897282
Dan you drop the Predator into the first ten minutes it's not much of a surprise.
Quote from: SiL on Aug 15, 2022, 12:48:10 AMDan you drop the Predator into the first ten minutes it's not much of a surprise.
hahaha! Exactly.
Quote from: SiL on Aug 15, 2022, 12:48:10 AMDan you drop the Predator into the first ten minutes it's not much of a surprise.
I'd imagine the bear would have been the reveal ( which would have been awesome). He obviously tweaked it when the cat was out the bag.
Quote from: Highland on Aug 15, 2022, 01:28:08 AMQuote from: SiL on Aug 15, 2022, 12:48:10 AMDan you drop the Predator into the first ten minutes it's not much of a surprise.
I'd imagine the bear would have been the reveal ( which would have been awesome). He obviously tweaked it when the cat was out the bag.
What's obvious about it?
Quote from: SiL on Aug 15, 2022, 02:45:42 AMQuote from: Highland on Aug 15, 2022, 01:28:08 AMQuote from: SiL on Aug 15, 2022, 12:48:10 AMDan you drop the Predator into the first ten minutes it's not much of a surprise.
I'd imagine the bear would have been the reveal ( which would have been awesome). He obviously tweaked it when the cat was out the bag.
What's obvious about it?
He himself said he didn't want anyone to know about the Predator. Given that every shot up and including that is just the Predators CGI cloaking shimmy, It's not unreasonable to think that the first time Naru see's the Predator would have also been the first time we see the Predator.
It could also be the reason we hear the Predator enter the atmosphere twice ( this bit does not really make sense when you think about it). She hears it when she's chasing the deer and then later again when we see it entering the clouds.
I doubt even the most secret of projects could have kept the Predator under wraps though.
Quote from: SiL on Aug 15, 2022, 12:48:10 AMDan you drop the Predator into the first ten minutes it's not much of a surprise.
Still would've been neat if they somehow managed to not put Predator in all of the pre-release material
i think he meant going in blind but yeah the surprise would only last a good 10 minutes lol
gonna assume every future film by Dan would have a predator in it
Quote from: von on Aug 15, 2022, 10:19:37 AMgonna assume every future film by Dan would have a predator in it
Might have to keep a look out and see if the skull (cartilage? membranous tissue? whatever...) of one of these guys ends up on any future Predator's trophy wall in whatever stealth sequel Trachtenberg's up to next.
(https://www.zbrushcentral.com/uploads/default/original/3X/1/e/1e6be11742e60d2bf0acaa8111f839b7ff45137d.jpeg)
The skull mask is unique. I like the idea the Preds/Yautja attempt to adopt dedigns that blend into the times.
I was thinking the Preds probanly preferred fighting people prior to advanced human tech, because they were more mystical and wouodn't attempt to take Pred tech for military purposes; i.e. Preds don't need the wristnuke to destroy tech with more primitive peoples who view their tech as more supernatural rather than as alien and useful for developing tech.
I was curious if anyone could remind me of why the actor Ian Whyte hasn't been involved with any of the Predator films since AVP & AVPR?
I'm sure it's been discussed in previous threads already. But just maybe would like a refresher on the story if anyone knows. Thanks in advance!
Probably going to see an even bigger dump of stuff now:
https://twitter.com/mv_creatures/status/1559757492606738432?s=21&t=JdpGK3sjk0gMvmqBvj37gw
Quote from: Mike's Monsters on Aug 17, 2022, 05:13:00 AMProbably going to see an even bigger dump of stuff now:
https://twitter.com/mv_creatures/status/1559757492606738432?s=21&t=JdpGK3sjk0gMvmqBvj37gw
And here's some:
https://twitter.com/MV_Creatures/status/1560014174129795072
A face only a mother could love.
New Matt Ferguson Poster
https://twitter.com/Cakes_Comics/status/1560705082848575489
https://twitter.com/BBW_BFF/status/1557226453879570432
Nah that wasn't making any sense whatsoever.
Quote from: Nightmare Asylum on Aug 26, 2022, 02:05:00 PMhttps://twitter.com/BBW_BFF/status/1557226453879570432
Makes sense to me, both thematically and narratively.
We're a long way from the absolute stupidity of AVP.
remember how the "aztecs" were played by white people in the flashbacks?
Remember the racist shit about the "predators teaching them to build"?
god.
Quote from: skhellter on Aug 26, 2022, 02:21:26 PMRemember the racist shit about the "predators teaching them to build"? .
Are you serious ?
They weren't literal Aztecs in the flashbacks, either.
Not to get too off topic but the civilization seen in the flashback is what the Predators interacted with. If we saw Egypt or the Aztecs, sure. But the culture depicted there is the only one shown. If they taught anyone how to build it was them. It was that kind of temple, it was that culture that used them, it was that culture whose corpses can be found inside. If the flashback presented more people they hunters met, sure, but it's not in the movie. I concede it might be in the novelization, but it's otherwise not in the movie.
And otherwise, of course they had to teach them how to build. Who else is making puzzle trap door pyramids to house giant alien bugs? The Predators had very specific needs for these buildings.
Quote from: skhellter on Aug 26, 2022, 02:21:26 PMWe're a long way from the absolute stupidity of AVP.
remember how the "aztecs" were played by white people in the flashbacks?
Remember the racist shit about the "predators teaching them to build"?
god.
Based Skhellter,
also just f**k Paul W.S Anderson in general.
Quote from: skhellter on Aug 26, 2022, 02:21:26 PMRemember the racist shit about the "predators teaching them to build"?
god.
No different to any Von Daniken or Lovecraft derivate, deeming it as 'racist' is disingenuous (and false on any level)
Lovecraft was mad racist though.
Quote from: SiL on Aug 26, 2022, 08:34:52 PMLovecraft was mad racist though.
That's beside the point mate
'Aliens taught human civilization things' is a trope that's everywhere and then some, Lovecraft or not
Is it? Guy claims something is racist and the defence is "no see this racist guy said it earlier".
If it's everywhere and then some there should be plenty of examples from people who weren't racist to make the point, no?
While we're at it, Daniken was also mad racist and suggests in Signs of the Gods? that aliens programmed white and yellow races into humans because "the black race was a failure".
IMO It's just ain't worth it to get mad about characters not being played by actual Native Americans in what amounts to less than 5 minutes of flashback. And SuperiorIronman already explained why Predators teaching fictional ancient civilisation how to build super-sophisticated pyramids doesn't count as racism
Quote from: SiL on Aug 26, 2022, 08:44:16 PMIs it? Guy claims something is racist and the defence is "no see this racist guy said it earlier".
It's a storytelling device. Nothing more, nothing less. Isolating AvP for it is silly
Quote from: SiL on Aug 26, 2022, 08:44:16 PMIf it's everywhere and then some there should be plenty of examples from people who weren't racist to make the point, no?
Ok so The Shapes, The Eternals comic, 2001, Quatermass and the Pit, Doctor Who, X-Files, Battlestar Galactica, Hitchhiker's Guide, StarGate movie & series, Star Trek, Mission to Mars (obviously), Transformers... need more? :P
Quote from: SiL on Aug 26, 2022, 08:44:16 PMWhile we're at it, Daniken was also mad racist and suggests in Chariots of the Gods that aliens programmed white and yellow races into humans because "the black race was a failure".
yeah von daniken cray
Quote from: Kradan on Aug 26, 2022, 08:49:17 PMIMO It's just ain't worth it to get mad about characters not being played by actual Native Americans in what amounts to less than 5 minutes of flashback. And SuperiorIronman already explained why Predators teaching fictional ancient civilisation how to build super-sophisticated pyramids doesn't count as racism
Anderson said he was inspired by
Chariots of the Gods, written by a guy who wrote in a follow up book that maybe aliens made white peoples because black people were a failure.
The whole "ancient aliens built the ancient world" idea is largely based on a foundation of racism. People who pull it out as a storytelling device are playing into it wittingly or not.
It's worth noting that 2001, Mission to Mars, and Quatermass and the Pit don't actually feature the trope.
Is it worth getting mad about? Depends on the person, but it's worth acknowledging what it is.
Quote from: SiL on Aug 26, 2022, 09:09:00 PMIt's worth noting that 2001, Mission to Mars, and Quatermass and the Pit don't actually feature the trope.
Oh but they do. 2001 (novel & film) says aliens are responsible for the rise of humanity and so does Quatermass and the Pit - and so does Mission to Mars
that is unless you want to distinguish between three tropes - 'Ancient Astronauts' and 'Pseudo-Panspermia' and 'Evolution kickstarters' (?)
or if you liken 'Ancient Astronauts' to 'Burden of the White Man' (which is a connection that can be made, I guess)
fact that Von Daniken was racist doesn't mean derivates of it are, really. 'Beauty and the Beast' has despicable origins as a tale, but the 1991 Disney film spins it into something that works. Alien is a Lovecraft derivate etc etc etc
Prometheus is also a Von Daniken derivate, ironically, so if AvP is racist, so is Prometheus. I guess Blabel won't like that...
Yeah, Mission to Mars was more like directed panspermia...
(https://i.ibb.co/djWHpsK/Screenshot-20220826-171311.jpg)
Ancient aliens teaching humans how to build complex structures is not the same nor analogous to panspermia or the non interventionist guidance in stories like 2001.
The monolith sparked the change that turned animal to man, the aliens didn't come down and make all of our ancient, non white achievements.
Anderson doesn't rewrite the underlying narrative, he just says the aliens in question were Predators. But our ancient achievements were still theirs.
Quote from: SiL on Aug 26, 2022, 09:38:57 PMAncient aliens teaching humans how to build complex structures is not the same nor analogous to panspermia or the non interventionist guidance in stories like 2001.
guidance
is a form of intervention, especially if it involves literally manipulating intelligence & genetic code
so that would make our evolutionary history someone else's achievement :P which is tres raciste... I guess? Or immoral, whatever the preferred term
[edit] back on topic, I really need a Prey steelbook as soon as possible
I'm not reading 143 pages. So . . . how is Feral so unfazed by horrific injuries? He gets a large spear right through his chest and just pulls it through, and . . . ?
It's through his shoulder, and he's clearly from the 80s action school of shoulders being made of disposable soft tissue.
Quote from: SiL on Aug 27, 2022, 02:04:34 AMIt's through his shoulder, and he's clearly from the 80s action school of shoulders being made of disposable soft tissue.
Probably why McTiernan parodied his "flesh wound" in Last Action Hero.
Quote from: AlienatedPredator on Aug 27, 2022, 02:01:38 AMI'm not reading 143 pages. So . . . how is Feral so unfazed by horrific injuries? He gets a large spear right through his chest and just pulls it through, and . . . ?
Predators are established as being able to tank a ton of damage. They seemingly are naturally resilient to the point losing a limb and several gun shots are a problem, but not immediately life threatening. Granted they will need to address it, but the films do establish they'll keep going until they die or receive medical care.
It was fun how Feral gave zero f**ks throughout the whole movie.
Right up there with Jason as the best of the unfeeling unthinking monsters.
Quote from: SiL on Aug 27, 2022, 08:48:53 AMRight up there with Jason as the best of the unfeeling unthinking monsters.
Oh he's not unfeeling... he genuinely looks pissed on multiple occasions, especially that moment when Naru tricks him into cutting off his own arm (that slow turn to look back at her... pissed). Lol
Still it's out of character for Predator to take such copious ammount of damage. Situation from P2, where Predator after taking damage in slaughterhouse, tries to escape into safety, makes it much more believable and living, breathing creature, instead of lumbering unstoppable monster.
Yeah Feral f**king rulez
I mean, the thing is truly a walking tank. Not much squealing when dealing with damage.
The first two let out painful screams (medkit scenes) and squeals (Jungle Hunter when explosive tip speared by Dutch).
Clicks extremely frequently on the other hand lol.
Feral screamed when he stepped in the bear trap too.
Some people flee when they get hurt; some stay and fight. That whole fight or flight deal. Feral, maybe because he was "feral," lacked a flight response...
I forgot about the bear trap. But then again, he had one also on his arm, and he flipped the thing and swung it at a frenchman like it was nothing.
Quote from: Master on Aug 27, 2022, 09:43:47 PMStill it's out of character for Predator to take such copious ammount of damage.
Feral be like that he's a youngling dying to hunt some good shit
It's some Jason monster shit.
Predators aren't space orcs.
Predators can be whatever the character needs for the film.
Quote from: BlueMarsalis79 on Aug 28, 2022, 12:54:09 AMPredators can be whatever the character needs for the film.
This
So predators are nothing then.
Quote from: SiL on Aug 28, 2022, 02:18:57 AMSo predators are nothing then.
No one said that.
They are alien hunters, on safari.
They can be what ever the writers need them to be, because they can be as individualistic as any human.
They can have their own personalities.
They can come from different clans (if you want to believe they live in clans) with different cultures and different morals/honors.
And, they can have varying physical characteristics like humans from different parts of the world.
There's a lot of room for variability in behavior, appearance and technology.
When you remove most of the actual hunting and have the thing acting like a generic monster, what's left to call it a Predator?
I feel it's more than cloaks, mandibles and heat vision, but that's about all Feral really has.
Quote from: SiL on Aug 28, 2022, 03:01:42 AMWhen you remove most of the actual hunting and have the thing acting like a generic monster, what's left to call it a Predator?
I feel it's more than cloaks, mandibles and heat vision, but that's about all Feral really has.
He's hunting.
He's just doing it in a more animalistic fashion, hence the nickname "feral."
There's more than one way to hunt. Style, technique, and even personal preference play a big part in how things/individuals hunt.
Even the super predators hunted like rich, privileged people by relocating their prey to a game preserve. Obviously that's not a preference of jungle hunter, city hunter or feral.
Some hunters use a gun.
Some use a bow and arrow.
Some use dogs.
Some use hawks.
And, some use knives.
Lots of variety there. So seeing how feral preferred to hunt in a more animalistic fashion than what we've seen before, I don't see how that makes him "nothing." He had a style. It was a preference; but he was still a predator, hunting for sport.
After he starts killing humans his style devolves into "walk in, get wrecked, slaughter everything, walk out". That's not really hunting, no.
That's not even "animalistic" - predatory animals would be more cautious and get the f**k out when they started taking damage and realised they were in danger.
The only suitable analogy is a generic movie monster, rambling from carnage to carnage.
I didn't say Feral is nothing; I said that if the Predator can be anything, then a Predator is nothing.
Predators are hunter-warriors, Feral just slid more into the warrior side of things. Nothing is out of the ordinary here.
Quote from: SiL on Aug 28, 2022, 03:44:18 AMAfter he starts killing humans his style devolves into "walk in, get wrecked, slaughter everything, walk out". That's not really hunting, no.
That's not even "animalistic" - predatory animals would be more cautious and get the f**k out when they started taking damage and realised they were in danger.
The only suitable analogy is a generic movie monster, rambling from carnage to carnage.
I didn't say Feral is nothing; I said that if the Predator can be anything, then a Predator is nothing.
Then a human would be nothing too since we can be anything as well 🤷 Honestly that logic makes no sense to me...
He has a style that's primitive. Animalistic. Rage filled.
That doesn't make him less of a hunter. That just makes him different from what we've seen before.
I fish. I use a pole. I think people who go noodling are crazy, but they're still fishing and that doesn't make them nothing; it makes them fishermen who are different from me, and that's ok...
PS. You should see a rage filled bear. Thankfully I've never seen this first hand but I've heard the stories (I lived in Alaska where bear stories are common). People armed with the wrong fire-arm (not powerful enough) shoot a bear and just piss it off more. It doesn't stop; it just rips them apart even more in a rage.
This was feral imo angry and brutal in his rage.
It's really easy; Predators aren't humans, they're fictional monsters that need to differentiate themselves from other fictional monsters. Removing the characteristics that define the Predator against its competition dilutes the character.
Quote from: SiL on Aug 28, 2022, 04:33:43 AMIt's really easy; Predators aren't humans, they're fictional monsters that need to differentiate themselves from other fictional monsters. Removing the characteristics that define the Predator against its competition dilutes the character.
You remove the characteristics of anything and you're left with nothing...
So, of course, if you remove all of the hunting you have nothing left...
So, I still don't see your point. Feral was hunting using different tactics than the previous films. That still doesn't make him nothing.
I have never, at any point, called him nothing, and would really appreciate you not insisting on putting words in my mouth.
Quote from: SiL on Aug 28, 2022, 02:18:57 AMSo predators are nothing then.
I'm not putting words in your mouth. I'm trying to make sense of your point, unsuccessfully so far, so please elaborate
If the fictional monster known as the Predator can be "anything", then it ends up being nothing in particular. It's a name and a vague concept.
Even "interstellar big game hunter" is too vague. The Predator wasn't even the first human-hunting alien played by Kevin Peter Hall, let alone first human hunting alien on film.
The characterisation of the Predator is more than just "space hunter". I've said many, many times that doesn't mean they all need to be carbon copies - the first two Predators are very different in looks, personality, style, but still feel like the same species of character.
I'm not alone in feeling like Feral doesn't feel like a Predator.
Quote from: SiL on Aug 28, 2022, 05:09:55 AMIf the fictional monster known as the Predator can be "anything", then it ends up being nothing in particular. It's a name and a vague concept.
Even "interstellar big game hunter" is too vague. The Predator wasn't even the first human-hunting alien played by Kevin Peter Hall, let alone first human hunting alien on film.
The characterisation of the Predator is more than just "space hunter". I've said many, many times that doesn't mean they all need to be carbon copies - the first two Predators are very different in looks, personality, style, but still feel like the same species of character.
I'm not alone in feeling like Feral doesn't feel like a Predator.
I still don't understand...
So because feral isn't the *same enough* he must be nothing?!
He looks different sure, but a poodle doesn't look like a husky. They're both still dogs.
Behavior-wise, feral is a hunter just like the others; he just has different tactics.
How exactly does this make him nothing?
How is "intergalactic big game hunter" too vague? That's exactly what the predator has always been for the past 35 years. But people didn't really confuse it with the Jason voorhees or Freddy.
Bear took damage...kept coming at Naru. Bear took a beating....still tried to fight the Predator.
I think Feral just thinks it's bigger and better (the Predator Ego) than everything else. Which to be fair....it is.
Jungle Hunter had to be at least careful it didn't get it's head blown off by a minigun and I don't think a movie where a Predator is picking off locals from the tree's sounds that great to be honest :P
Feral doesn't feel like previous incarnations precisely because he isn't; he's from a different hemisphere. Maoris don't fight like Vikings; Vikings don't fight like me when I'm ready to pillage my fridge for that last morsel of jerky. It's MY jerky.
I love the idea of diverse jerky, er, diverse Predators, lends further credence to the blood fueds between them all. Jungle Pred family are all like "We're the TRUE stealth hunters, you ferals are arrogant brutes; you're not true predators." The ferals, incensed yet thoughtful, reply, "You're committing the 'No True Scotsman' fallacy there, kiddo, our human jerky is superior with our more exotic spices mmmm."
Quote from: Engineer on Aug 28, 2022, 05:41:34 AMI still don't understand...
So because feral isn't the *same enough* he must be nothing?!
Please help me understand, is there a language barrier here I should be aware of? I do not understand how you keep thinking I'm saying Feral is nothing when I have never said that?
Quote from: SiL on Aug 28, 2022, 06:01:54 AMQuote from: Engineer on Aug 28, 2022, 05:41:34 AMI still don't understand...
So because feral isn't the *same enough* he must be nothing?!
Please help me understand, is there a language barrier here I should be aware of? I do not understand how you keep thinking I'm saying Feral is nothing when I have never said that?
There's no language barrier. I'm a native English speaker with a college education, in the STEM field. You literally said it before...
"So predators are nothing then."
Explain the logic...
Quote from: Engineer on Aug 28, 2022, 06:05:25 AMQuote from: SiL on Aug 28, 2022, 06:01:54 AMQuote from: Engineer on Aug 28, 2022, 05:41:34 AMI still don't understand...
So because feral isn't the *same enough* he must be nothing?!
Please help me understand, is there a language barrier here I should be aware of? I do not understand how you keep thinking I'm saying Feral is nothing when I have never said that?
There's no language barrier. I'm a native English speaker with a college education, in the STEM field. You literally said it before...
"So predators are nothing then."
Explain the logic...
Predators. Not Feral. Predators, in general.
If something can be everything then it is also nothing. We classify things by their differences to other things.
Predators aren't the only space hunters. They're not even the only space orc, as Feral is.
There is more nuance to the characterisation of the Predator as a distinct fictional entity than "space hunter with a funny face and some neat tools". It's those nuances that make the Predator a distinct and notable villainous character.
They don't all need to look the same or act the same, but strip out those nuances and you lose the finesse of what makes the Predator noteworthy.
Predator A: "No Scotsman puts sugar on his jerky."
Predator B: "But my uncle Angus is a Scotsman and he puts sugar on his jerky."
Predator A: "But no true Scotsman puts sugar on his jerky."
That is true of everything though...
Take away the hunting characteristics of jungle hunter and you have nothing.
Take away the hunting characteristics of city hunter and you have nothing.
Take away the hunting characteristics of feral and you have nothing.
Take away the murderous characteristics of Jason voorhees and you have nothing.
What is your point? Of course; if you take away the characteristics of anything and you're left with nothing...
Quote from: BigDaddyJohn on Aug 27, 2022, 10:44:40 PMI forgot about the bear trap. But then again, he had one also on his arm, and he flipped the thing and swung it at a frenchman like it was nothing.
That was awesome btw
Ps. Feral = predator
So I don't get why you need to distinguish between the two.
Predators are predators. Different places but from the same species; just like people.
Quote from: Engineer on Aug 28, 2022, 03:59:16 AMI fish. I use a pole. I think people who go noodling are crazy, but they're still fishing and that doesn't make them nothing; it makes them fishermen who are different from me, and that's ok...
That's actually a good analogy that can even be used with regular hunting. Some use a bow, compound or recurve, others use a rifle, and some want to use a spear. Some have their risks and rewards, as it's much more challenging to get in with a spear then a rifle, with the risk of getting caught in the animal's fury if the person wounds it. It's a different approach to things but it's all hunting in the end. JH went in stealthy and only goes up close and personal when the opportunity allows it, CH also employs some stealth like JH but is more brash about going in melee due to being a hot blooded young male teen. Super Predators don't follow any code so anything goes in their hunting style, however they use falconry and alien dogs that is also used for hunting. Feral climbs up the food chain, going in hard and brutal with anything he finds worthy to hunt and fight.
All of these are traits of not only a hunter but also a warrior, there is nothing out of the ordinary here I don't see how Feral's behavior makes him any less different to other fictional races out there, he still follows a code of honor and goes toe to toe with his opponents on much equal footing that he can get. Fangs of the snake/wolf vs his wristblades (metal fangs), claws and strength of the bear vs Feral, spear combat and the speargun vs the Comanche with their spears/arrows, and of course the more advanced gear vs the French Trappers' tactics and gunpower.
Additionally, it lays out the very thing that is missing from the past films, actual stalking and tracking. Feral moving through the trees, following foot prints, blood trails, evidence of presence, observing new prey creatures, all of these that you see in actual hunting. Ironically, this alone makes him more of a hunter the past Predators, as we barely see them doing any of these things. Past films just have them show up offscreen and then start chasing after the main characters. Here, you see the build up of how they move and think. Its a great display of a hunter's mindset. Personally, to lay the hunting part even thicker to Feral, we should have had moments of him collecting the bear skull and skulls of the fallen Comanche and Trappers. I find it odd that he never thought of taking these, as many of them did put up a good fight that a Predator would consider worthy of adding to his collection.
Quote from: Necronomicon II on Aug 28, 2022, 06:33:39 AMPredator A: "No Scotsman puts sugar on his jerky."
Predator B: "But my uncle Angus is a Scotsman and he puts sugar on his jerky."
Predator A: "But no true Scotsman puts sugar on his jerky."
Fictional characters, not logic arguments, but ok.
Quote from: Mr.Turok on Aug 28, 2022, 06:46:27 AMAdditionally, it lays out the very thing that is missing from the past films, actual stalking and tracking. Feral moving through the trees, following foot prints, blood trails, evidence of presence, observing new prey creatures, all of these that you see in actual hunting.
Jungle Hunter stalks the commandos, tracks their trail, inspects evidence of their presence, even uses calls to lure prey.
Like ... Jungle Hunter is the most hunter out of all of them, this is the weirdest take in the thread.
Yet...
Some human hunters rely on dogs pinning a wild bore to the ground while they stick it with a k-bar...
Different hunting tactics; different cultures...
PS. I recall feral approaching a field full of skinned bison and he picks up the same cigar naru did to inspect it... (tracking it's prey)
Quote from: Engineer on Aug 28, 2022, 07:16:01 AMYet...
Some human hunters rely on dogs pinning a wild bore to the ground while they stick it with a k-bar...
Different hunting tactics; different cultures...
Ok so there are probably Predators who do not hunt at all. They work 9 to 5 in an office and go to sleep. Do we want to see a movie about them too? Predators are Predators, right? Doesn't matter what they do on screen, it is equally good to present them in that way?
A movie about Michael Myers but just the years where he is in the institution. Sitting, eating, not killing anyone in that period. He is still Michael Myers, but is that the point of the character?
Just because you can make a case that another fictional character of the same fictional species can behave differently, that is not the point of that fictional character. We want to see a specific set of characteristics exhibited.
This Predator is a lousy Predator and I don't want to see movies about lousy Predators just because a case can be made that they can exist in the lore.
Quote from: overthere on Aug 28, 2022, 07:32:11 AMQuote from: Engineer on Aug 28, 2022, 07:16:01 AMYet...
Some human hunters rely on dogs pinning a wild bore to the ground while they stick it with a k-bar...
Different hunting tactics; different cultures...
Ok so there are probably Predators who do not hunt at all. They work 9 to 5 in an office and go to sleep. Do we want to see a movie about them too? Predators are Predators, right? Doesn't matter what they do on screen, it is equally good to present them in that way?
A movie about Michael Myers but just the years where he is in the institution. Sitting, eating, not killing anyone in that period. He is still Michael Myers, but is that the point of the character?
Just because you can make a case that another fictional character of the same fictional species can behave differently, that is not the point of that fictional character. We want to see a specific set of characteristics exhibited.
This Predator is a lousy Predator and I don't want to see movies about lousy Predators just because a case can be made that they can exist in the lore.
? ? ?
I never said I wanted to see any accountant-predators...
I never even said anyone had to like THIS representation of a predator.
Only that the predators have every bit of diversity that humans have, and honestly, that diversity is no reason to discount feral as a hunter/predator... because he is... you see it, onscreen. Just like you do with jungle hunter and city hunter and the super predators. He just uses different tactics to hunt. That's not a fault or a discrepancy; it's a form of diversity that even us humans share...
Quote from: overthere on Aug 28, 2022, 07:32:11 AMOk so there are probably Predators who do not hunt at all. They work 9 to 5 in an office and go to sleep. Do we want to see a movie about them too? Predators are Predators, right? Doesn't matter what they do on screen, it is equally good to present them in that way?
A movie about Michael Myers but just the years where he is in the institution. Sitting, eating, not killing anyone in that period. He is still Michael Myers, but is that the point of the character?
Just because you can make a case that another fictional character of the same fictional species can behave differently, that is not the point of that fictional character. We want to see a specific set of characteristics exhibited.
This Predator is a lousy Predator and I don't want to see movies about lousy Predators just because a case can be made that they can exist in the lore.
Thank you!
I don't want to see Jason Voorhees Predator any more than I want to see 9-5 Office job Predator.
Quote from: SiL on Aug 28, 2022, 07:44:29 AMQuote from: overthere on Aug 28, 2022, 07:32:11 AMOk so there are probably Predators who do not hunt at all. They work 9 to 5 in an office and go to sleep. Do we want to see a movie about them too? Predators are Predators, right? Doesn't matter what they do on screen, it is equally good to present them in that way?
A movie about Michael Myers but just the years where he is in the institution. Sitting, eating, not killing anyone in that period. He is still Michael Myers, but is that the point of the character?
Just because you can make a case that another fictional character of the same fictional species can behave differently, that is not the point of that fictional character. We want to see a specific set of characteristics exhibited.
This Predator is a lousy Predator and I don't want to see movies about lousy Predators just because a case can be made that they can exist in the lore.
Thank you!
I don't want to see Jason Voorhees Predator any more than I want to see 9-5 Office job Predator.
And you didn't... it was feral. Different hunting tactics. As individualistic as any human.
Quote from: Engineer on Aug 28, 2022, 07:41:18 AM? ? ?
I never said I wanted to see any accountant-predators...
I never even said anyone had to like THIS representation of a predator.
Only that the predators have every bit of diversity that humans have, and honestly, that diversity is no reason to discount feral as a hunter/predator... because he is... you see it, onscreen. Just like you do with jungle hunter and city hunter and the super predators. He just uses different tactics to hunt. That's not a fault or a discrepancy; it's a form of diversity that even us humans share...
His tactic is to walk in among 10 people and just start killing them, taking as much damage as possible in the process. He was even bitten by the wolf. In an earlier scene he killed a snake which tried to bite him and I thought "wow, this guy is prepared for anything". But nah.
His wrist gauntlet must have one of those in-game consoles because he acts like typed "god mode" in it.
Honestly, based on the rest of the movie, I don't see why he was killed by the headshot with his own projectile.
Quote from: BlueMarsalis79 on Aug 28, 2022, 12:54:09 AMPredators can be whatever the character needs for the film.
Based thread derail
Quote from: Engineer on Aug 28, 2022, 07:51:23 AMQuote from: SiL on Aug 28, 2022, 07:44:29 AMQuote from: overthere on Aug 28, 2022, 07:32:11 AMOk so there are probably Predators who do not hunt at all. They work 9 to 5 in an office and go to sleep. Do we want to see a movie about them too? Predators are Predators, right? Doesn't matter what they do on screen, it is equally good to present them in that way?
A movie about Michael Myers but just the years where he is in the institution. Sitting, eating, not killing anyone in that period. He is still Michael Myers, but is that the point of the character?
Just because you can make a case that another fictional character of the same fictional species can behave differently, that is not the point of that fictional character. We want to see a specific set of characteristics exhibited.
This Predator is a lousy Predator and I don't want to see movies about lousy Predators just because a case can be made that they can exist in the lore.
Thank you!
I don't want to see Jason Voorhees Predator any more than I want to see 9-5 Office job Predator.
And you didn't... it was feral. Different hunting tactics. As individualistic as any human.
Feral is Jason Voorhees cosplaying a Predator.
Quote from: [cancerblack] on Aug 28, 2022, 07:56:10 AMQuote from: BlueMarsalis79 on Aug 28, 2022, 12:54:09 AMPredators can be whatever the character needs for the film.
Based thread derail
If anyone replies with "the pathogen can be whatever the plot needs it to be" watch it really explode.
Quote from: overthere on Aug 28, 2022, 07:53:29 AMQuote from: Engineer on Aug 28, 2022, 07:41:18 AM? ? ?
I never said I wanted to see any accountant-predators...
I never even said anyone had to like THIS representation of a predator.
Only that the predators have every bit of diversity that humans have, and honestly, that diversity is no reason to discount feral as a hunter/predator... because he is... you see it, onscreen. Just like you do with jungle hunter and city hunter and the super predators. He just uses different tactics to hunt. That's not a fault or a discrepancy; it's a form of diversity that even us humans share...
His tactic is to walk in among 10 people and just start killing them, taking as much damage as possible in the process. He was even bitten by the wolf. In an earlier scene he killed a snake which tried to bite him and I thought "wow, this guy is prepared for anything". But nah.
His wrist gauntlet must have one of those in-game consoles because he acts like typed "god mode" in it.
Honestly, based on the rest of the movie, I don't see why he was killed by the headshot with his own projectile.
Lol umkay
Because a hunter can't be bested by its prey (sorry Dutch). Lol
Obviously he didn't have a "god mode." The bear gave him a run for his money before he landed that killing blow. You even see that bright green blood dripping from the bear's jaws.
The trailer did a better job of the bear fight than the movie did.
Quote from: SiL on Aug 28, 2022, 07:57:26 AMQuote from: Engineer on Aug 28, 2022, 07:51:23 AMQuote from: SiL on Aug 28, 2022, 07:44:29 AMQuote from: overthere on Aug 28, 2022, 07:32:11 AMOk so there are probably Predators who do not hunt at all. They work 9 to 5 in an office and go to sleep. Do we want to see a movie about them too? Predators are Predators, right? Doesn't matter what they do on screen, it is equally good to present them in that way?
A movie about Michael Myers but just the years where he is in the institution. Sitting, eating, not killing anyone in that period. He is still Michael Myers, but is that the point of the character?
Just because you can make a case that another fictional character of the same fictional species can behave differently, that is not the point of that fictional character. We want to see a specific set of characteristics exhibited.
This Predator is a lousy Predator and I don't want to see movies about lousy Predators just because a case can be made that they can exist in the lore.
Thank you!
I don't want to see Jason Voorhees Predator any more than I want to see 9-5 Office job Predator.
And you didn't... it was feral. Different hunting tactics. As individualistic as any human.
Feral is Jason Voorhees cosplaying a Predator.
Quote from: [cancerblack] on Aug 28, 2022, 07:56:10 AMQuote from: BlueMarsalis79 on Aug 28, 2022, 12:54:09 AMPredators can be whatever the character needs for the film.
Based thread derail
If anyone replies with "the pathogen can be whatever the plot needs it to be" watch it really explode.
How is feral Jason voorhees but jungle hunter is not? or city hunter? Lmao
They hunt. They kill. They use tactics specific to themselves (just like people). You're acting like feral is somehow different from every other predator we've seen. He hunts; he kills. That's it. Lol it's not that deep a concept, but it's also definitely not nothing.
Quote from: SiL on Aug 28, 2022, 08:01:25 AMThe trailer did a better job of the bear fight than the movie did.
Opinions are like assholes; everyone has one and they all stink
Jesus Christ I've explained it a dozen times by now. Either you're not even trying or you're trolling, and those are the nice options. I'm done.
Quote from: Engineer on Aug 28, 2022, 07:59:15 AMLol umkay
Because a hunter can't be bested by its prey (sorry Dutch). Lol
Obviously he didn't have a "god mode." The bear gave him a run for his money before he landed that killing blow. You even see that bright green blood dripping from the bear's jaws.
Jungle Hunter was not "bested" in the same way Feral was bested by everything he encountered. Jungle Hunter did not expect a trap and was about to kill Dutch after brutally beating him.
Your bear example is not working in your favor. First, the bear managed to hurt him, which I doubt would happen to Jungle Hunter, and second, after the bear obviously hurt him and his blood is spilling around, he just kills the bear and carries on as if nothing ever happened.
In games when you have god mode on, you still see your blood when you get shot, it just didn't lower your health, and that is exactly what happens with Feral.
"So predators are nothing then."
Quote from: SiL on Aug 28, 2022, 08:06:43 AMJesus Christ I've explained it a dozen times by now. Either you're not even trying or you're trolling, and those are the nice options. I'm done.
Be done then lol
You said it, not me lol
"So predators are nothing then."
Still waiting for an explanation that doesn't revolve around stripping it of its personality, which again, you strip away the personality of literally anything and you're left with nothing lmmfao
Quote from: overthere on Aug 28, 2022, 08:09:39 AMQuote from: Engineer on Aug 28, 2022, 07:59:15 AMLol umkay
Because a hunter can't be bested by its prey (sorry Dutch). Lol
Obviously he didn't have a "god mode." The bear gave him a run for his money before he landed that killing blow. You even see that bright green blood dripping from the bear's jaws.
Jungle Hunter was not "bested" in the same way Feral was bested by everything he encountered. Jungle Hunter did not expect a trap and was about to kill Dutch after brutally beating him.
Your bear example is not working in your favor. First, the bear managed to hurt him, which I doubt would happen to Jungle Hunter, and second, after the bear obviously hurt him and his blood is spilling around, he just kills the bear and carries on as if nothing ever happened.
In games when you have god mode on, you still see your blood when you get shot, it just didn't lower your health, and that is exactly what happens with Feral.
Was feral hurt by the bear?
Yes.
No god mode, therefore in my favor
Lol
Never said feral was better than jungle hunter dude
Nice try
Also, we don't know if feral used first aid on himself after that bear fight. So, yea, who knows how well/fast he recovered. Lol
Quote from: Engineer on Aug 28, 2022, 08:11:45 AMStill waiting for an explanation that doesn't revolve around stripping it of its personality, which again, you strip away the personality of literally anything and you're left with nothing lmmfao
Look, it's really simple.
Movies with the Predator character are supposed to be movies about a specific type of Predator-species, just like a movie Chicago Bulls is supposed to be a movie about a specific basketball team. If you make a movie called Chicago Bulls about a completely different team who never won a match and have no players with talent or skill, you cannot say "well, it's another team, it's still basketball", because the movie is not really supposed to be about any and all basketball, it's about a specific basketball club.
Quote from: SiL on Aug 28, 2022, 03:01:42 AMWhen you remove most of the actual hunting and have the thing acting like a generic monster, what's left to call it a Predator?
I feel it's more than cloaks, mandibles and heat vision, but that's about all Feral really has.
Quote from: overthere on Aug 28, 2022, 08:16:38 AMQuote from: Engineer on Aug 28, 2022, 08:11:45 AMStill waiting for an explanation that doesn't revolve around stripping it of its personality, which again, you strip away the personality of literally anything and you're left with nothing lmmfao
Look, it's really simple.
Movies with the Predator character are supposed to be movies about a specific type of Predator-species, just like a movie Chicago Bulls is supposed to be a movie about a specific basketball team. If you make a movie called Chicago Bulls about a completely different team who never won a match and have no players with talent or skill, you cannot say "well, it's another team, it's still basketball", because the movie is not really supposed to be about any and all basketball, it's about a specific basketball club.
Predators aren't a team they're a species of alien...
They aren't capable of having different races like humans?
Last I checked, humans were composed of Africans, Asians, Europeans, Hispanics, and so many others I can't even name us all... predators can't be similar in that way? Shit, so I guess we just toss out predator 2, predators and the predator then right?
(Honestly wouldn't mind tossing out "the predator" lol)
Quote from: SiL on Aug 28, 2022, 08:23:19 AMQuote from: SiL on Aug 28, 2022, 03:01:42 AMWhen you remove most of the actual hunting and have the thing acting like a generic monster, what's left to call it a Predator?
I feel it's more than cloaks, mandibles and heat vision, but that's about all Feral really has.
Yep I saw this. The predator is a hunter so when you remove the hunting of course you're left with nothing lol
It's like saying "this guy is a lawyer so let's take away his law" then he's nothing
Quote from: SiL on Aug 28, 2022, 08:23:19 AMQuote from: SiL on Aug 28, 2022, 03:01:42 AMWhen you remove most of the actual hunting and have the thing acting like a generic monster, what's left to call it a Predator?
I feel it's more than cloaks, mandibles and heat vision, but that's about all Feral really has.
yess....absolutely this
Quote from: oduodu on Aug 28, 2022, 08:31:44 AMyess....absolutely this
You haven't even seen it :laugh:
Yeah like I've got my gripes but geez watch the movie before joining in.
Quote from: SiL on Aug 28, 2022, 08:44:26 AMYeah like I've got my gripes but geez watch the movie before joining in.
I commend you for this even if we have a disagreement
Quote from: Engineer on Aug 28, 2022, 08:28:17 AMPredators aren't a team they're a species of alien...
They aren't capable of having different races like humans?
We've been over this. Do my illustrative examples mean nothing to you?
We don't want to watch movies about the whole species of whatever Predator-species is.
We want to watch the interesting, clever human hunting that some of them do.
And Feral did not provide that.
After all the examples of Michael Myers sitting and eating, Chicago Bulls, etc...
I give up as well.
Quote from: overthere on Aug 28, 2022, 08:59:05 AMQuote from: Engineer on Aug 28, 2022, 08:28:17 AMPredators aren't a team they're a species of alien...
They aren't capable of having different races like humans?
We've been over this. Do my illustrative examples mean nothing to you?
We don't want to watch movies about the whole species of whatever Predator-species is.
We want to watch the interesting, clever human hunting that they do.
And Feral did not provide that.
After all the examples of Michael Myers sitting and eating, Chicago Bulls, etc...
I give up as well.
Who is "we" exactly?
Because I've been a fan since 1987 and absolutely DO want to see this sort of story telling from this franchise. The scores on rotten tomatoes are decent enough too, so I suspect I'm not in the minority here either...
Naru was genuinely clever, outsmarting the predator better than anyone else had in the previous movies...
I mean, it's ok if you just didn't like the movie though...
Quote from: Engineer on Aug 28, 2022, 09:05:08 AMQuote from: overthere on Aug 28, 2022, 08:59:05 AMQuote from: Engineer on Aug 28, 2022, 08:28:17 AMPredators aren't a team they're a species of alien...
They aren't capable of having different races like humans?
We've been over this. Do my illustrative examples mean nothing to you?
We don't want to watch movies about the whole species of whatever Predator-species is.
We want to watch the interesting, clever human hunting that they do.
And Feral did not provide that.
After all the examples of Michael Myers sitting and eating, Chicago Bulls, etc...
I give up as well.
Who is "we" exactly?
Because I've been a fan since 1987 and absolutely DO want to see this sort of story telling from this franchise. The scores on rotten tomatoes are decent enough too, so I suspect I'm not in the minority here either...
Naru was genuinely clever, outsmarting the predator better than anyone else had in the previous movies...
I mean, it's ok if you just didn't like the movie though...
I like Naru and I do like the movie, but I wish the Predator acted more like the Predator that I got interested in. If this was my first encounter with the Predator as character, I would not find him interesting at all.
A Predator's character's defined by the qualities of a hunter, hunters vary a lot in practices, but within that criteria they are all hunters, they are all Predators.
(https://thatshelf.com/wp-content/uploads//2014/03/Hannibal-Season-2-Episode-4-Takiawase-1.jpg)
Quote from: Engineer on Aug 28, 2022, 09:05:08 AMWho is "we" exactly?
(https://i.gyazo.com/9e70c3a753c96eea88922333d57e4c9c.png)
Hahahaha
Quote from: [cancerblack] on Aug 28, 2022, 09:11:41 AMQuote from: Engineer on Aug 28, 2022, 09:05:08 AMWho is "we" exactly?
https://i.gyazo.com/9e70c3a753c96eea88922333d57e4c9c.png
Lol
This was literally what popped into my head
Quote from: [cancerblack] on Aug 28, 2022, 08:41:28 AMQuote from: oduodu on Aug 28, 2022, 08:31:44 AMyess....absolutely this
You haven't even seen it :laugh:
just agreeing with the gripes of a member of this forum. iv e watched everything i could find on youtube about this movie and this is the gripe i have with the movie too.
i didnt have too watch the full movie to come to the same conclusion.
Quote from: oduodu on Aug 28, 2022, 09:13:27 AMQuote from: [cancerblack] on Aug 28, 2022, 08:41:28 AMQuote from: oduodu on Aug 28, 2022, 08:31:44 AMyess....absolutely this
You haven't even seen it :laugh:
just agreeing with the gripes of a member of this forum. iv e watched everything i could find on youtube about this movie and this is the gripe i have with the movie too.
i didnt have too watch the full movie to come to the same conclusion.
You kind of do, to actually see all those brief moments in the correct context.
Oh what YouTube critics have wrought.
Quote from: BlueMarsalis79 on Aug 28, 2022, 09:15:58 AMOh what YouTube critics have wrought.
no just outakes of the movie
Quote from: BlueMarsalis79 on Aug 28, 2022, 09:09:05 AMA Predator's character's defined by the qualities of a hunter, hunters vary a lot in practices, but within that criteria they are all hunters, they are all Predators.
https://thatshelf.com/wp-content/uploads//2014/03/Hannibal-Season-2-Episode-4-Takiawase-1.jpg
(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/1/1a/Without_warning_1980_movie_poster.jpg)
Great Predator movie.
Quote from: overthere on Aug 28, 2022, 09:07:20 AMQuote from: Engineer on Aug 28, 2022, 09:05:08 AMQuote from: overthere on Aug 28, 2022, 08:59:05 AMQuote from: Engineer on Aug 28, 2022, 08:28:17 AMPredators aren't a team they're a species of alien...
They aren't capable of having different races like humans?
We've been over this. Do my illustrative examples mean nothing to you?
We don't want to watch movies about the whole species of whatever Predator-species is.
We want to watch the interesting, clever human hunting that they do.
And Feral did not provide that.
After all the examples of Michael Myers sitting and eating, Chicago Bulls, etc...
I give up as well.
Who is "we" exactly?
Because I've been a fan since 1987 and absolutely DO want to see this sort of story telling from this franchise. The scores on rotten tomatoes are decent enough too, so I suspect I'm not in the minority here either...
Naru was genuinely clever, outsmarting the predator better than anyone else had in the previous movies...
I mean, it's ok if you just didn't like the movie though...
I like Naru and I do like the movie, but I wish the Predator acted more like the Predator that I got interested in. If this was my first encounter with the Predator as character, I would not find him interesting at all.
That's fair. And, to go back to my previous remark, it's ok not to like the movie, but that doesn't mean this predator is somehow not a predator due to its behavior (or appearance)...
We know almost nothing about their species... their physical diversity or their cultural/behavioral diversity...
I was just saying this to a friend before. We have hunting laws in America (the US), that most people honor. They honor the laws but that's not the same as honoring their prey. The ones who don't, the ones who break the law, are poachers (bad bloods, if you will). But, those laws are specific to our country. Other countries have different laws; some have no laws at all around hunting...
So, given the diversity in hunting laws/practices between countries, or even individuals, here on earth, why is it so off the wall to think the predators might not all have the same laws, morals, honor codes themselves?
Seems narrow minded to me that they'd all act exactly the same as the jungle hunter imo...
Quote from: oduodu on Aug 28, 2022, 08:31:44 AMjust agreeing with the gripes of a member of this forum. iv e watched everything i could find on youtube about this movie and this is the gripe i have with the movie too.
i didnt have too watch the full movie to come to the same conclusion.
Yeah please do see the film before criticising, you might actually disagree with me.
Quote from: SiL on Aug 28, 2022, 09:20:38 AMQuote from: BlueMarsalis79 on Aug 28, 2022, 09:09:05 AMA Predator's character's defined by the qualities of a hunter, hunters vary a lot in practices, but within that criteria they are all hunters, they are all Predators.
https://thatshelf.com/wp-content/uploads//2014/03/Hannibal-Season-2-Episode-4-Takiawase-1.jpg
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/1/1a/Without_warning_1980_movie_poster.jpgGreat Predator movie.
I've actually heard good things about this movie... but, still don't see feral as bein no different than this guy. He's still a predator, just different, behaviorally and physically, from what we've seen before. And that's ok even if not everyone likes it...
Quote from: SiL on Aug 28, 2022, 09:20:38 AMQuote from: BlueMarsalis79 on Aug 28, 2022, 09:09:05 AMA Predator's character's defined by the qualities of a hunter, hunters vary a lot in practices, but within that criteria they are all hunters, they are all Predators.
https://thatshelf.com/wp-content/uploads//2014/03/Hannibal-Season-2-Episode-4-Takiawase-1.jpg
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/1/1a/Without_warning_1980_movie_poster.jpgGreat Predator movie.
I don't know it.
Doesn't look like it had access to the Predator or Alien license to me. That of course you need to make an official thing featuring either.
Quote from: BlueMarsalis79 on Aug 28, 2022, 09:24:16 AMQuote from: SiL on Aug 28, 2022, 09:20:38 AMQuote from: BlueMarsalis79 on Aug 28, 2022, 09:09:05 AMA Predator's character's defined by the qualities of a hunter, hunters vary a lot in practices, but within that criteria they are all hunters, they are all Predators.
https://thatshelf.com/wp-content/uploads//2014/03/Hannibal-Season-2-Episode-4-Takiawase-1.jpg
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/1/1a/Without_warning_1980_movie_poster.jpgGreat Predator movie.
I don't know it.
Doesn't look like it had access to the Predator or Alien license to me. That of course you need to make an official thing featuring either.
It's 7 years before Predator, stars Kevin Peter Hall as an alien hunting humans.
So all a Predator is, is something that hunts - in the license? So the Aliens in AvP are Predators?
That's neat, but like that Italian Alien film, if it's not got the license it does not count.
As for whether Aliens are predators, of course they are, but they are obviously not Predators.
Maybe a decent PredAlien might be.
Great, so Aliens are just any alien that appear in the movies and Predators are anything that hunts.
Quote from: SiL on Aug 28, 2022, 09:26:50 AMQuote from: BlueMarsalis79 on Aug 28, 2022, 09:24:16 AMQuote from: SiL on Aug 28, 2022, 09:20:38 AMQuote from: BlueMarsalis79 on Aug 28, 2022, 09:09:05 AMA Predator's character's defined by the qualities of a hunter, hunters vary a lot in practices, but within that criteria they are all hunters, they are all Predators.
https://thatshelf.com/wp-content/uploads//2014/03/Hannibal-Season-2-Episode-4-Takiawase-1.jpg
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/1/1a/Without_warning_1980_movie_poster.jpgGreat Predator movie.
I don't know it.
Doesn't look like it had access to the Predator or Alien license to me. That of course you need to make an official thing featuring either.
It's 7 years before Predator, stars Kevin Peter Hall as an alien hunting humans.
So all a Predator is, is something that hunts - in the license? So the Aliens in AvP are Predators?
I get what you're saying
I just don't agree with you.
Godzilla is a kaiju; take that away and it's not just some dinosaur all of the sudden.
Plus, I mean, the predator hunts. It's so ingrained in what it is, I don't see how you can just strip that out of the character. Feral... he's different, but he's still a hunter, even if his style of hunting is different from what you're used to thinking about...
Quote from: BlueMarsalis79 on Aug 28, 2022, 09:28:24 AMAs for whether Aliens are predators, of course they are, but they are obviously not Predators.
You said Predators are characterised by hunting. Aliens hunt, so if the only criteria is "something that hunts", they're Predators.
Quote from: SiL on Aug 28, 2022, 09:29:54 AMGreat, so Aliens are just any alien that appear in the movies and Predators are anything that hunts.
The terms... "alien" and "predator" are so generic that yes, you can apply them to many other things too. That was kind of the point. The predator is an "alien"
But, as a creature in a recognizable franchise, it has a distinct identify despite the generic name, even feral...
Same goes with the creature from the generically named "the thing" or pennywise from "it"
Quote from: Engineer on Aug 28, 2022, 09:33:39 AMQuote from: SiL on Aug 28, 2022, 09:26:50 AMQuote from: BlueMarsalis79 on Aug 28, 2022, 09:24:16 AMQuote from: SiL on Aug 28, 2022, 09:20:38 AMQuote from: BlueMarsalis79 on Aug 28, 2022, 09:09:05 AMA Predator's character's defined by the qualities of a hunter, hunters vary a lot in practices, but within that criteria they are all hunters, they are all Predators.
https://thatshelf.com/wp-content/uploads//2014/03/Hannibal-Season-2-Episode-4-Takiawase-1.jpg
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/1/1a/Without_warning_1980_movie_poster.jpgGreat Predator movie.
I don't know it.
Doesn't look like it had access to the Predator or Alien license to me. That of course you need to make an official thing featuring either.
It's 7 years before Predator, stars Kevin Peter Hall as an alien hunting humans.
So all a Predator is, is something that hunts - in the license? So the Aliens in AvP are Predators?
I get what you're saying
I just don't agree with you.
Godzilla is a kaiju; take that away and it's not just some dinosaur all of the sudden.
Plus, I mean, the predator hunts. It's so ingrained in what it is, I don't see how you can just strip that out of the character. Feral... he's different, but he's still a hunter, even if his style of hunting is different from what you're used to thinking about...
My whole argument is it was stripped out and what's left is a shell. He stops hunting half way through the movie. They have taken out what was ingrained in the character.
Up until he starts attacking people he's ok. Then he turns into Jason cosplaying a Predator for the second half.
It's not that his style is different, he just has none. Just walking into a group of people with seemingly no plan and no caution is not hunting, animalistic or not.
That's been the entire point.
Don't think you guys are comparing apples to oranges here.
Youre essentially asking Feral to snipe bow and arrow natives from the trees when he doesn't need to.
Would be like me hunting a wild pig with a bazooka from a tree hut. Why would I do that.
I'm asking him to hunt, not walk into traps repeatedly, not get surrounded and blindsided repeatedly. Approach situations with caution, attack with advantage, get the upper hand.
Hunting isn't just killing things. Predators have the tech to and strength to slaughter wholesale wherever they want. They CHOOSE NOT TO. That is their character.
Quote from: SiL on Aug 28, 2022, 09:39:32 AMQuote from: Engineer on Aug 28, 2022, 09:33:39 AMQuote from: SiL on Aug 28, 2022, 09:26:50 AMQuote from: BlueMarsalis79 on Aug 28, 2022, 09:24:16 AMQuote from: SiL on Aug 28, 2022, 09:20:38 AMQuote from: BlueMarsalis79 on Aug 28, 2022, 09:09:05 AMA Predator's character's defined by the qualities of a hunter, hunters vary a lot in practices, but within that criteria they are all hunters, they are all Predators.
https://thatshelf.com/wp-content/uploads//2014/03/Hannibal-Season-2-Episode-4-Takiawase-1.jpg
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/1/1a/Without_warning_1980_movie_poster.jpgGreat Predator movie.
I don't know it.
Doesn't look like it had access to the Predator or Alien license to me. That of course you need to make an official thing featuring either.
It's 7 years before Predator, stars Kevin Peter Hall as an alien hunting humans.
So all a Predator is, is something that hunts - in the license? So the Aliens in AvP are Predators?
I get what you're saying
I just don't agree with you.
Godzilla is a kaiju; take that away and it's not just some dinosaur all of the sudden.
Plus, I mean, the predator hunts. It's so ingrained in what it is, I don't see how you can just strip that out of the character. Feral... he's different, but he's still a hunter, even if his style of hunting is different from what you're used to thinking about...
My whole argument is it was stripped out and what's left is a shell. He stops hunting half way through the movie. They have taken out what was ingrained in the character.
Up until he starts attacking people he's ok. Then he turns into Jason cosplaying a Predator for the second half.
It's not that his style is different, he just has none. Just walking into a group of people with seemingly no plan and no caution is not hunting, animalistic or not.
That's been the entire point.
And your point I don't agree with...
Going back to my previous example. Noodling is crazy af imo but despite my viewpoint it is still considered a form of fishing.
Feral hunts differently. They gave him the nickname "feral" for a reason, you picked up on that reason and just seem to not like it (which is ok) but doesn't make him a Jason voorhees... he's still hunting.
Bears hunt differently than cougars.
Feral = bear
Predators you're use to seeing = cougars
I wrote: "A Predator's character's defined by the qualities of a hunter, hunters vary a lot in practices, but within that criteria they are all hunters, they are all Predators."
This works in the context of just the Predator franchise, when you bring in Alien I must be more specific.
"A Predator's character's defined by the qualities of a extraterrestrial hunting only for sport, hunters vary a lot in practices, but within that criteria they are all hunters, thusly Predators can also vary in every way a human being hunting for sport can vary."
He knows none of the dangers humans have can pose even the slightest threat and as far as we can see that's true. If people are disliking the predator not "hunting" then the entire premise of the movie is more likely the real beef rather than the actions of the creature.
Quote from: Highland on Aug 28, 2022, 09:41:04 AMDon't think you guys are comparing apples to oranges here.
Youre essentially asking Feral to snipe bow and arrow natives from the trees when he doesn't need to.
Would be like me hunting a wild pig with a bazooka from a tree hut. Why would I do that.
That's actually been closer to my point all along lol
Feral is different
But not in a bad way
Quote from: SiL on Aug 28, 2022, 09:42:16 AMI'm asking him to hunt, not walk into traps repeatedly, not get surrounded and blindsided repeatedly. Approach situations with caution, attack with advantage, get the upper hand.
Hunting isn't just killing things. Predators have the tech to and strength to slaughter wholesale wherever they want. They CHOOSE NOT TO. That is their character.
Not feral's character lol
That was kind of the point and hence his nickname
He's an individual not a jungle hunter clone
I'm with Sil and Overthere on this one. The point is not all hunters must behave thesame, the point is no hunter let's himself willingly get mangled like Feral did on more then one occasion because this is not hunter's behaviour. It doesn't matter if you are maori, viking or a God damn chinaman. Such behaviour is more fitting for psychopath, that's why Jason or Michel comparison. Being bullet sponge doesn't help.
Gatekeeping what counts as a Predator or not is not what I expected this thread would turn into
Quote from: PAS Spinelli on Aug 28, 2022, 09:51:39 AMGatekeeping what counts as a Predator or not is not what I expected what this thread would turn into
Feral counts as a Predator.
I just think he's a badly written one.
Quote from: Highland on Aug 28, 2022, 09:46:33 AMHe knows none of the dangers humans have can pose even the slightest threat and as far as we can see that's true. If people are disliking the predator not "hunting" then the entire premise of the movie is more likely the real beef rather than the actions of the creature.
It's his first time hunting on Earth. He doesn't know anything. And then he gets impaled by his own spear by something he didn't take seriously in a completely preventable situation.
Testing himself against what this world has to offer him, like with the wolf, tracking something down and skewering it from a foot in front of it is as much hunting as skewering it from the relative safety of a tree.
The thing is a sadistic serial killer that collects skull trophy's on safari and rips out spines.
The irony of folk trying to say "the predator has no code of honour!" For years appears to have now done a 180 and is coming back the other way :laugh:
Quote from: Master on Aug 28, 2022, 09:50:51 AMI'm with Sil and Overthere on this one. The point is not all hunters must behave thesame, the point is no hunter let's himself willingly get mangled like Feral did on more then one occasion because this is not hunter's behaviour. It doesn't matter if you are maori, viking or a God damn chinaman. Such behaviour is more fitting for psychopath, that's why Jason or Michel comparison. Being bullet sponge doesn't help.
You've just described every hunter who has failed their hunt, and become the hunted
(Including city hunter)
I don't think any lion goes into a fight expecting to lose, but when they do they take a lot of damage in the process.
Presumably we can all agree that humans are unique and individual and whatever.
But every single one of us has cringed at badly written dialogue, or rolled our eyes at unrealistic character behaviour.
We don't pass it off as "all people are different!".
I respond to Feral the same way people respond to characters in AvPR. Those characters are still humans, they're just badly written ones
Feral is a Predator. I just think he's a badly written one.
How? Feral likes fighting and testing his prey, through the whole movie we see him analyzing his prey before moving in, testing it by letting it attack him, then kill it, we see him do that with the snake, wolf and bear.
Also, Feral didn't simply "walk in the middle of 10 people" like some of you keep saying, he fell to a trap, why do you need to be purposely ignorant of what happens in the movie to try and make a point?
Quote from: Highland on Aug 28, 2022, 09:57:40 AMThe thing is a sadistic serial killer that collects skull trophy's on safari and rips out spines.
The irony of folk trying to say "the predator has no code of honour!" For years appears to have now done a 180 and is coming back the other way :laugh:
Honestly I don't believe they have much honor. That's a comic book thing.
Jungle hunter laughed at Dutch using his fallen comrades voice before setting off a nuke; seems pretty disrespectful to me, not honorable.
Quote from: Highland on Aug 28, 2022, 09:57:40 AMThe thing is a sadistic serial killer that collects skull trophy's on safari and rips out spines.
The irony of folk trying to say "the predator has no code of honour!" For years appears to have now done a 180 and is coming back the other way :laugh:
Who mentioned codes of honour?
I personally love the way he goes up against the Fur Trappers, because even when standing completely still against their best weaponry they still barely make a dent, gets bored, activates a bomb and then leaves.
Quote from: SiL on Aug 28, 2022, 09:59:36 AMPresumably we can all agree that humans are unique and individual and whatever.
But every single one of us has cringed at badly written dialogue, or rolled our eyes at unrealistic character behaviour.
We don't pass it off as "all people are different!".
I respond to Feral the same way people respond to characters in AvPR. Those characters are still humans, they're just badly written ones
Feral is a Predator. I just think he's a badly written one.
I loved feral
But hate AVP
Not going to fault you for having a different taste in entertainment.
Thanks. I'm not trying to fault anyone for what it's worth, I'm just trying to have a discussion.
The trio from AvP weren't even hunters
And Wolf is a dumbass
Quote from: Engineer on Aug 28, 2022, 10:01:00 AMQuote from: Highland on Aug 28, 2022, 09:57:40 AMThe thing is a sadistic serial killer that collects skull trophy's on safari and rips out spines.
The irony of folk trying to say "the predator has no code of honour!" For years appears to have now done a 180 and is coming back the other way :laugh:
Honestly I don't believe they have much honor. That's a comic book thing.
Jungle hunter laughed at Dutch using his fallen comrades voice before setting off a nuke; seems pretty disrespectful to me, not honorable.
No neither do I. I just find it slightly amusing that folk want the predator to act in a certain way , when it's been clear from the start that these things get over confident then die.
That is literally Predator in a nutshell. A creature that underestimates it's opponent.
I seem to remember pussy face taking on a whole train of armed passengers front on like he was king dick ( for no reason to boot) !
Quote from: PAS Spinelli on Aug 28, 2022, 10:04:50 AMThe trio from AvP weren't even hunters
And Wolf is a dumbass
Agreed
AVP 2004's trash steeped in racist ideas made by a guy who routinely gets his crew injured or killed even decades later.
Quote from: Highland on Aug 28, 2022, 10:05:31 AMQuote from: Engineer on Aug 28, 2022, 10:01:00 AMQuote from: Highland on Aug 28, 2022, 09:57:40 AMThe thing is a sadistic serial killer that collects skull trophy's on safari and rips out spines.
The irony of folk trying to say "the predator has no code of honour!" For years appears to have now done a 180 and is coming back the other way :laugh:
Honestly I don't believe they have much honor. That's a comic book thing.
Jungle hunter laughed at Dutch using his fallen comrades voice before setting off a nuke; seems pretty disrespectful to me, not honorable.
No neither do I. I just find it slightly amusing that folk want the predator to act in a certain way , when it's been clear from the start that these things get over confident then die.
That is literally Predator in a nutshell. A creature that underestimates it's opponent.
I seem to remember pussy face taking on a whole train of armed passengers front on like he was king dick ( for no reason to boot) !
City Hunter was after Harrigan's close contacts, they say as much in the film. He has Harrigan singled out as a prize and was torturing him.
Quote from: BlueMarsalis79 on Aug 28, 2022, 10:05:48 AMAVP 2004's trash steeped in racist ideas made by a guy who routinely gets his crew injured or killed even decades later.
But not his wife... he keeps her safe and employed 🙄🙄🙄
Because hunters sure do love torturing a wild buck they spotted in the wild right
Quote from: SiL on Aug 28, 2022, 10:07:01 AMQuote from: Highland on Aug 28, 2022, 10:05:31 AMQuote from: Engineer on Aug 28, 2022, 10:01:00 AMQuote from: Highland on Aug 28, 2022, 09:57:40 AMThe thing is a sadistic serial killer that collects skull trophy's on safari and rips out spines.
The irony of folk trying to say "the predator has no code of honour!" For years appears to have now done a 180 and is coming back the other way :laugh:
Honestly I don't believe they have much honor. That's a comic book thing.
Jungle hunter laughed at Dutch using his fallen comrades voice before setting off a nuke; seems pretty disrespectful to me, not honorable.
No neither do I. I just find it slightly amusing that folk want the predator to act in a certain way , when it's been clear from the start that these things get over confident then die.
That is literally Predator in a nutshell. A creature that underestimates it's opponent.
I seem to remember pussy face taking on a whole train of armed passengers front on like he was king dick ( for no reason to boot) !
City Hunter was after Harrigan's close contacts, they say as much in the film. He has Harrigan singled out as a prize and was torturing him.
This is true but he still got arrogant and underestimated him... hence that look of surprise when he uses his own disc to amputate his arm.
Quote from: PAS Spinelli on Aug 28, 2022, 10:07:53 AMBecause hunters sure do love torturing a wild buck they spotted in the wild right
Not human hunters that I'm aware of but maybe alien hunters lol
Quote from: SiL on Aug 28, 2022, 09:53:23 AMAnd then he gets impaled by his own spear by something he didn't take seriously in a completely preventable situation.
Isn't that whole thing about Predators - they underestimate their prey and that's what gets 'em killed ?
Quote from: Kradan on Aug 28, 2022, 10:10:36 AMQuote from: SiL on Aug 28, 2022, 09:53:23 AMAnd then he gets impaled by his own spear by something he didn't take seriously in a completely preventable situation.
Isn't that whole thing about Predators - they underestimate their prey and that's what gets 'em killed ?
Yes
Quote from: SiL on Aug 28, 2022, 10:07:01 AMQuote from: Highland on Aug 28, 2022, 10:05:31 AMQuote from: Engineer on Aug 28, 2022, 10:01:00 AMQuote from: Highland on Aug 28, 2022, 09:57:40 AMThe thing is a sadistic serial killer that collects skull trophy's on safari and rips out spines.
The irony of folk trying to say "the predator has no code of honour!" For years appears to have now done a 180 and is coming back the other way :laugh:
Honestly I don't believe they have much honor. That's a comic book thing.
Jungle hunter laughed at Dutch using his fallen comrades voice before setting off a nuke; seems pretty disrespectful to me, not honorable.
No neither do I. I just find it slightly amusing that folk want the predator to act in a certain way , when it's been clear from the start that these things get over confident then die.
That is literally Predator in a nutshell. A creature that underestimates it's opponent.
I seem to remember pussy face taking on a whole train of armed passengers front on like he was king dick ( for no reason to boot) !
City Hunter was after Harrigan's close contacts, they say as much in the film. He has Harrigan singled out as a prize and was torturing him.
It doesn't hunt him though. It walks into the Disco and shouts let's rock.
For what it's worth I understand why people want the predator to do a bit more sneaking, but I think in this scenario it could possibly have made less sense. I'd need a reason that it's taking out opponents one by one.
It does sniff the hunters traps ( kills all the horsemen), but then the trapper scene is just another copy of the jungle trapper scene, played out slightly differently.
I dig it. It's the best bit imo.
Quote from: Kradan on Aug 28, 2022, 10:10:36 AMQuote from: SiL on Aug 28, 2022, 09:53:23 AMAnd then he gets impaled by his own spear by something he didn't take seriously in a completely preventable situation.
Isn't that whole thing about Predators - they underestimate their prey and that's what gets 'em killed ?
Except this happens half way through the movie and he learns nothing from it.
If that's how he died it would be fine.
Quote from: Highland on Aug 28, 2022, 10:11:51 AMIt doesn't hunt him though. It walks into the Disco and shouts let's rock.
It taunts him the whole movie. It doesn't just gut him the 3 or 4 times it has the chance. It's savouring that kill.
Predators like controlling the situation. Normally.
Quote from: SiL on Aug 28, 2022, 10:13:32 AMQuote from: Kradan on Aug 28, 2022, 10:10:36 AMQuote from: SiL on Aug 28, 2022, 09:53:23 AMAnd then he gets impaled by his own spear by something he didn't take seriously in a completely preventable situation.
Isn't that whole thing about Predators - they underestimate their prey and that's what gets 'em killed ?
Except this happens half way through the movie and he learns nothing from it.
If that's how he died it would be fine.
Quote from: Highland on Aug 28, 2022, 10:11:51 AMIt doesn't hunt him though. It walks into the Disco and shouts let's rock.
It taunts him the whole movie. It doesn't just gut him the 3 or 4 times it has the chance. It's savouring that kill.
Predators like controlling the situation. Normally.
No I was taking about when it's going after Jerry. There's no hunting there. It just walks right through a train of armed civilians full view.
We would have been having this talk even if the movie was perfect, people already hated and nitpicked it before we even got the final plot and actual title
Quote from: Highland on Aug 28, 2022, 10:16:44 AMQuote from: SiL on Aug 28, 2022, 10:13:32 AMQuote from: Kradan on Aug 28, 2022, 10:10:36 AMQuote from: SiL on Aug 28, 2022, 09:53:23 AMAnd then he gets impaled by his own spear by something he didn't take seriously in a completely preventable situation.
Isn't that whole thing about Predators - they underestimate their prey and that's what gets 'em killed ?
Except this happens half way through the movie and he learns nothing from it.
If that's how he died it would be fine.
Quote from: Highland on Aug 28, 2022, 10:11:51 AMIt doesn't hunt him though. It walks into the Disco and shouts let's rock.
It taunts him the whole movie. It doesn't just gut him the 3 or 4 times it has the chance. It's savouring that kill.
Predators like controlling the situation. Normally.
No I was taking about when it's going after Jerry. There's no hunting there. It just walks right through a train of armed civilians full view.
Sorry, but I'm nostalgic for that movie, therefore that is a well written predator ;D
Quote from: SiL on Aug 28, 2022, 10:13:32 AMQuote from: Kradan on Aug 28, 2022, 10:10:36 AMQuote from: SiL on Aug 28, 2022, 09:53:23 AMAnd then he gets impaled by his own spear by something he didn't take seriously in a completely preventable situation.
Isn't that whole thing about Predators - they underestimate their prey and that's what gets 'em killed ?
Except this happens half way through the movie and he learns nothing from it.
If that's how he died it would be fine.
Fair enough
Quote from: Highland on Aug 28, 2022, 10:16:44 AMQuote from: SiL on Aug 28, 2022, 10:13:32 AMQuote from: Kradan on Aug 28, 2022, 10:10:36 AMQuote from: SiL on Aug 28, 2022, 09:53:23 AMAnd then he gets impaled by his own spear by something he didn't take seriously in a completely preventable situation.
Isn't that whole thing about Predators - they underestimate their prey and that's what gets 'em killed ?
Except this happens half way through the movie and he learns nothing from it.
If that's how he died it would be fine.
Quote from: Highland on Aug 28, 2022, 10:11:51 AMIt doesn't hunt him though. It walks into the Disco and shouts let's rock.
It taunts him the whole movie. It doesn't just gut him the 3 or 4 times it has the chance. It's savouring that kill.
Predators like controlling the situation. Normally.
No I was taking about when it's going after Jerry. There's no hunting there. It just walks right through a train of armed civilians full view.
Funnily enough, not my favourite part of the movie. :laugh:
Quote from: PAS Spinelli on Aug 28, 2022, 10:16:54 AMWe would have been having this talk even if the movie was perfect, people already hated and nitpicked it before we even got the final plot and actual title
I had someone on this forum make obscene comments about my infant son because I was defending the movie before it came out.
I'm not mindlessly hating anything. I watched a movie, I have some thoughts. That's it.
The comment is not towards you specifically, it can apply to many people both in and outside this forum
Then why the snark in the rest of your post?
If you want to talk about problems with Predator 2 I got plenty.
I enjoyed the hell out of Feral slicing and dicing some French settlers but I also understand where SiL's coming from with Jason comparision
I thought the scene was really well done and a great bit of carnage.
But yeah I don't see how Feral is badly written, specially when the second Predator we ever saw did dumber and more reckless shit than this one by a mile.
Feral fell into a trap, CH jumped into a crowd of people multiple (4?) times, leaving multiple witnesses too, that also not mentioning how he leaves his tech around, why didn't he pick his mask back up, or his spear??
Quote from: SiL on Aug 28, 2022, 10:23:46 AMThen why the snark in the rest of your post?
If you want to talk about problems with Predator 2 I got plenty.
Because you said that Feral doesn't feel like a Predator for you and is badly written, yet if we go back as far as P2 we'll see he isn't that different at all
Quote from: PAS Spinelli on Aug 28, 2022, 10:25:12 AMBut yeah I don't see how Feral is badly written, specially when the second Predator we ever saw did dumber and more reckless shit than this one by a mile.
Feral fell into a trap, CH jumped into a crowd of people multiple 4 times, leaving multiple witnesses too, that also not mentioning how he leaves his tech around, why didn't he pick his mask back up, or his spear??
Quote from: SiL on Aug 28, 2022, 10:23:46 AMThen why the snark in the rest of your post?
If you want to talk about problems with Predator 2 I got plenty.
Because you said that Feral doesn't feel like a Predator for you and is badly written, yet if we go back as far as P2 we'll see he isn't that different at all
The main difference is City Hunter knows human prey and ambushes then, not the other way around. He stalks in undetected, attacks with surprise, and clears out. Even when the humans try to trap him, they fail - until Harrigan blindsides him by blowing up a wall and shooting him 9 times with a shotgun.
Which is why he leaves his shit around. He gets shot half to hell and has to leave.
It's very different to Jungle Hunter, but still showing a hunter that tries to give itself every advantage and control every situation for maximum success. That's a key thing Feral lacks for me.
City Hunter had prior experience or at least knowledge about humans, Feral didn't.
CH also had more than enough time to pickup his mask off the floor to then chase after Harrigan, he didn't, and this still doesn't address how he exposes himself multiple times and leaves gear around more than once, like the spear darts after he kills the voodoo squad
I mean, Jungle Hunter got himself caught in that net. Didn't slow him down much but still
I'm happy to go into it but I'm not sure where leaving gear is coming from in with the rest of the conversation.
My focus is on the line between a character that tries to dominate a situation and a character who's a sponge and doesn't give a shit. For me the former is key to the Predator's characterisation and its absence is what I feel detract from Feral.
Also, Feral has control over every situation in the movie up to Tabee using his spear on him. The wolf, the bear, even the hunters, it's all him messing around for fun. The bear scene actually demonstrates this really well, he brawls with the bear, not using his blades, spear or speargun, he is brawling it because he wants a challenge, as soon as he gets tired of playing with the bear, he instantly kills it with a punch that cracks it's head/neck, he had full control, he doesn't mind taking a bit of damage.
Same thing with the hunters, he knew they were planning something, but decided to walk in anyway to give himself a challenge, once he got bored, he killed them all with the mines.
He doesn't have control. He walks in not knowing what anything is, getting mauled by a bear, not rethinking when his cloak doesn't work, getting surrounded, and not showing any caution at the end.
His only control is that he's a bullet sponge and can survive his mistakes.
Now you are just being purposely ignorant about what happened in the movie.
Quote from: PAS Spinelli on Aug 28, 2022, 10:00:43 AMAlso, Feral didn't simply "walk in the middle of 10 people" like some of you keep saying, he fell to a trap, why do you need to be purposely ignorant of what happens in the movie to try and make a point?
But he did
literally walk nonchalantly to that thrap though.
Quote from: BigDaddyJohn on Aug 28, 2022, 10:58:22 AMQuote from: PAS Spinelli on Aug 28, 2022, 10:00:43 AMAlso, Feral didn't simply "walk in the middle of 10 people" like some of you keep saying, he fell to a trap, why do you need to be purposely ignorant of what happens in the movie to try and make a point?
But he did literally walk nonchalantly to that thrap though.
He walked into the trap, but not in the middle of a crowd like people keep saying
sorry double post
The argument that Feral does not know what humans are capable of is exactly the point SiL and I are trying to make.
He doesn't spend time studying humans to determine what they might be capable of. He just jumps in assuming they can't hurt him much, which is really really stupid of him.
Jungle Hunter did not underestimate Dutch and his team. When he saw Mac approaching when he was about to take the body, he ran away.
Exact same scene is in Prey, but Feral just walks up and starts removing his darts out of the body, while previously being shown that he sees their bow and arrows as weapons. He just did not care. That's stupid.
Jungle Hunter ran away before Mac even thought of getting the minigun, and a single bullet wound to the leg meant a painful healing for Predator.
At the end, Jungle Hunter does not even underestimate Dutch. He notices a trap and walks around. He just didn't fully understand the scope of the trap and was itchy to get it over with.
But you don't go into a hunt without knowing your prey. That's like hunting 101.
Feral is just a regular brainless monster.
Quote from: SiL on Aug 28, 2022, 09:22:21 AMQuote from: oduodu on Aug 28, 2022, 08:31:44 AMjust agreeing with the gripes of a member of this forum. iv e watched everything i could find on youtube about this movie and this is the gripe i have with the movie too.
i didnt have too watch the full movie to come to the same conclusion.
Yeah please do see the film before criticising, you might actually disagree with me.
i doubt it.
Unrelated to the topic of Feral being a poorly written Predator or not, I have a problem with the idea of Predator prequels.
I would prefer if Jungle Hunter was the first time a Predator got killed by a human. That is sort of the reason why its the first movie and hinted at a long history of coming to Earth. We don't see Hopper story because that's also not the outstanding story of an encounter where a Predator got killed.
If more prequels come up, it will create a sense that Predators are regularly killed on Earth, throwing dirt to the statement of their superiority. It will be a theme, oh, every once in a while a Predator comes to Earth, but don't worry, this is like the 20th that we killed.
Tagline should be "if it's in the movie, we will kill it".
That's actually not just a prequel problem. Every new Predator movie will do a dent in the statistics of Predators achievements.
We either need a movie in which a Predator survives, or a movie which clearly establishes how rare it is that a Predator dies. A movie set in future saying Predator hasn't been killed in the last 100 years of something, ever since they learned we adapted, they became even better or something.
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It's very different to Jungle Hunter, but still showing a hunter that tries to give itself every advantage and control every situation for maximum success. That's a key thing Feral lacks for me.
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Quote from: oduodu on Aug 28, 2022, 11:37:59 AMQuote from: SiL on Aug 28, 2022, 09:22:21 AMQuote from: oduodu on Aug 28, 2022, 08:31:44 AMjust agreeing with the gripes of a member of this forum. iv e watched everything i could find on youtube about this movie and this is the gripe i have with the movie too.
i didnt have too watch the full movie to come to the same conclusion.
Yeah please do see the film before criticising, you might actually disagree with me.
i doubt it.
Why haven't you seen the movie?
It sounds like you spent more time watching and reading about the movie than the movie's actual length is.
I wish Predators ended with the Classic Predator winning, taking Brody and the girl back to Earth, and a nice scene after he drops them off showing he's scanning the Earth for current military conflicts and picking a place to go, leading into the next Predator movie in which the Classic is again the Predator we see in action.
because i cant where i am at the moment. it be a few months. i do apologise. i just want make something clear. i value this webiste's opinion more than any other. i dont trust the msm and their opinion on anything. nor do i trust youtubers opinion i have seen a bit on youtube actually i could have seen the full final fight but decided not to. i look at certain members reactions to this movie based on the knowledge that their previous record of posts have always been on par and insightfull and that it rarely changed ove say a 5 yer period. a lot of people here right now will leave the site and we wont see them again. i am trying to guage if the people whose opinion i know and trust doesnt change overnight . thats how i know what to think. as i am not as invested in predator as in alien i am trying to guage what the these long time fans think of the movie.
that covers sil and corporal.
my main issue is the portrayal of the predator. what i think is not important. does the long time fans also agree with the way the predator has been portrayed?
and ffs i have seen enough of the movie to ask a valid question like that.
sil has gripes with it
corporal seems to love it(i think based on his review)
aj had similar issues(saying that predator felt more like a slasher than a predator)
i just want to know what the long time fans thinks of the pred in this movie.
ty
Feral watches his prey, uses his technology to hide, and moves through the trees. We see him tracking when examining the cigar and leaf. We see him in the trees watching the Comanche and taking note of their weapons. He uses tactics, advanced weapons, and combat skills. He looks for the strongest prey to provide the most challenge.
Feral only goes berserk when he is ambushed by many foes and unable to cloak. He uses his full arsenal, kills them, and escapes the situation via the trees/bombs. He's never really in any trouble until he fights Taabe, where he uses his cloak to win the fight. After that Naru is the one hunting him until the end of the film.
Taken in context of the events shown I think Feral absolutly acts like a predator. Comparisons to Jason Vorhees and slashers don't jive with the film I watched. But much like the myth that Feral didn't know how to use his bolt gun, i'm sure this Jason comparison will be around forever now.
My dudes , jungle hunter observes that Dutches team have enough firepower to level a city block.
Feral observed that the wolf's not all that, knows the bears not all that, then clearly (on screen) examens that the tribe only have stabbing weapons. He even takes the first one out with the long ranged weapon just to see what happens ( nothing happens) .
These things are not the same.
There is literally no reason for feral to think that these guys are Scorpion from Mortal Kombat.
PS. I LOVE P2. City Hunter is my favourite.
Quote from: oduodu on Aug 28, 2022, 12:03:11 PMbecause i cant where i am at the moment.
Why, exactly?
Y'all better chill before the Dalek fleet comes about
Quote from: Highland on Aug 28, 2022, 12:25:25 PMMy dudes , jungle hunter observes that Dutches team have enough firepower to level a city block.
Feral observed that the wolf's not all that, knows the bears not all that, then clearly (on screen) examens that the tribe only have stabbing weapons. He even takes the first one out with the long ranged weapon just to see what happens ( nothing happens) .
These things are not the same.
There is literally no reason for feral to think that these guys are Scorpion from Mortal Kombat.
PS. I LOVE P2. City Hunter is my favourite.
Some sanity with my jerky, cheers bruh 🍻
Quote from: Omegamorph on Aug 28, 2022, 01:04:02 PMY'all better chill before the Dalek fleet comes about
Doctor, who are these Daleks you keep talking about ?
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Quote from: oduodu on Aug 28, 2022, 12:03:11 PMbecause i cant where i am at the moment. it be a few months. i do apologise. i just want make something clear. i value this webiste's opinion more than any other. i dont trust the msm and their opinion on anything. nor do i trust youtubers opinion i have seen a bit on youtube actually i could have seen the full final fight but decided not to. i look at certain members reactions to this movie based on the knowledge that their previous record of posts have always been on par and insightfull and that it rarely changed ove say a 5 yer period. a lot of people here right now will leave the site and we wont see them again. i am trying to guage if the people whose opinion i know and trust doesnt change overnight . thats how i know what to think. as i am not as invested in predator as in alien i am trying to guage what the these long time fans think of the movie.
that covers sil and corporal.
my main issue is the portrayal of the predator. what i think is not important. does the long time fans also agree with the way the predator has been portrayed?
and ffs i have seen enough of the movie to ask a valid question like that.
sil has gripes with it
corporal seems to love it(i think based on his review)
aj had similar issues(saying that predator felt more like a slasher than a predator)
i just want to know what the long time fans thinks of the pred in this movie.
ty
Long time fan here. Been a regular at this site for years too. I loved feral. I don't think he's poorly written. I don't think he's careless or out of control. I don't think he lost his identity as a hunter. I don't think he was reduced to a generic slasher villain.
He's inexperienced, with earth, and has a different style of hunting from other predators we've seen. That gives him more identity imo more distinguishable from the other predators we've seen. He's not just a clone of jungle hunter or something...
But anyway... he really was stalking his prey and watching them.
- When naru fought the cat, she was distracted by a red shimmer; was that not feral watching from a distance?
- He heard naru's dog bark and he went to investigate (This was in the cave while he was cleaning his wolf skull).
- He picks up and inspects the same cigar that naru did, studying it (and tracking her obviously; being on her trail ever since hearing her dog bark).
- He fought the bear, toyed with it then just obliterated it with minimal effort... more importantly, immediately after killing the bear, he watched naru flee, then continued following her. (Maybe he jumped in to save naru? I don't think so personally, but he was tracking naru; I think he saw the bear and decided to have fun with it).
- He didn't immediately jump in and kill everyone once naru was taken captive by her tribe; he watched, then decided to jump into the action.
- After this brawl, He followed naru again but didn't charge into that field mindlessly until he missed a shot with his bolt gun and naru and the other guy started to run again.
- When naru gets caught in the bear trap, he catches up with her, inspects the trap, hears the fur trappers coming then leaves. - The fur trappers had an encounter with feral or some other predator before; if you translate the French they say something about "she's seen it."
- The fur trappers use her and her brother as bait; the bait works because feral was already tracking naru (imo he seemed interested in naru but wasn't sure she'd be the challenge he's looking for).
- The fur trappers set a trap for feral, but even then he didn't just mindlessly charge in; feral killed the Calvary hanging out at the top of the hill and he did it pretty stealthily since they never saw him coming until it was too late.
- After that, yes he walks into the trap, but he sees naru and taabe tied up. He's moving in to inspect them and their binding just like he inspected the bear trap naru was caught in before. He sees no danger, probably because he thought he killed every threat around when he slaughtered the guys on the hill moments before. The rest of the fur trappers were hidden and they outsmarted him. That's no different than Dutch's net trap working on jungle hunter, or Keye's trap for city hunter in the slaughterhouse. The trap didn't work, and feral went to town and slaughtered everyone.
- Naru escapes again; her and taabe split up. She gets back to the French's camp and who eventually shows up? Feral. He doesn't go after taabe, he goes where naru is, because he's still tracking her. He seems careless again but naru has already killed just about everyone in that camp. So feral sees a bunch of cold bodies and probably doesn't think there's any threats to worry about.
- Flash forward again, and naru sets the trap this time. She outsmarted the predator and they get into their final battle. He underestimates naru, in a similar sort of fashion as jungle hunter underestimating Dutch.
Sorry for the book here, but honestly, I see a hunter tracking a target that he is at least somewhat interested in. He doesn't seem to think naru is much of a threat most of the time, but if I were feral I would have followed her around too! Wherever she went, interesting prey showed up (the cat, the bear, human warriors and hunters). I see him watching his prey. I see him ambush unsuspecting French trappers. And I see him fall for traps set by people, and predators falling for traps is definitely nothing new for the movies.
Quote from: 426Buddy on Aug 28, 2022, 12:16:08 PMFeral watches his prey, uses his technology to hide, and moves through the trees. We see him tracking when examining the cigar and leaf. We see him in the trees watching the Comanche and taking note of their weapons. He uses tactics, advanced weapons, and combat skills. He looks for the strongest prey to provide the most challenge.
Feral only goes berserk when he is ambushed by many foes and unable to cloak. He uses his full arsenal, kills them, and escapes the situation via the trees/bombs. He's never really in any trouble until he fights Taabe, where he uses his cloak to win the fight. After that Naru is the one hunting him until the end of the film.
Taken in context of the events shown I think Feral absolutly acts like a predator. Comparisons to Jason Vorhees and slashers don't jive with the film I watched. But much like the myth that Feral didn't know how to use his bolt gun, i'm sure this Jason comparison will be around forever now.
Ha! I should have kept reading. You said a lot of the same things I just did lol
Quote from: Omegamorph on Aug 28, 2022, 08:51:08 PMQuote from: Kradan on Aug 28, 2022, 02:50:42 PMDoctor, who are these Daleks you keep talking about ?
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Damn, you really do post daleks everywhere lol
Do people also forget that, at least in other media, Predators also distinguish themselves as warriors also? Sometimes other cultures consider both professions as one, like the Comanches do. This just confirms what expanded media always had for Predators who see themselves as warriors too. Feral fits both areas, I really can't see how this can be argued in any other way. He hunts down his quarry, challenges them to a fight head on, and usually comes on top till he fights an opponent that bests him. More warrior than hunter, but a hunter nonetheless.
He's simply more brutal then the rest, even Mr. Black the bad blood super predator was sadistic and used tools that one would be considered dishonorable, but he never straight up went and demolished anyone like Feral does. Just adds to the individual more, hell one can say the hunters of the southern hemisphere takes a more hands on approach to these things then other tribes do. Additionally, didn't behind the scenes say that he's a more hot blooded young Pred? Fits the bill even more if what I recall is true. Either way, Feral is fine, my only gripe is he didn't take more skull trophies or skin more people. That's one of the real Predator traits that was lacking in the film.
Quote from: Mr.Turok on Aug 29, 2022, 03:37:02 AMDo people also forget that, at least in other media, Predators also distinguish themselves as warriors also? Sometimes other cultures consider both professions as one, like the Comanches do. This just confirms what expanded media always had for Predators who see themselves as warriors too. Feral fits both areas, I really can't see how this can be argued in any other way. He hunts down his quarry, challenges them to a fight head on, and usually comes on top till he fights an opponent that bests him. More warrior than hunter, but a hunter nonetheless.
He's simply more brutal then the rest, even Mr. Black the bad blood super predator was sadistic and used tools that one would be considered dishonorable, but he never straight up went and demolished anyone like Feral does. Just adds to the individual more, hell one can say the hunters of the southern hemisphere takes a more hands on approach to these things then other tribes do. Additionally, didn't behind the scenes say that he's a more hot blooded young Pred? Fits the bill even more if what I recall is true. Either way, Feral is fine, my only gripe is he didn't take more skull trophies or skin more people. That's one of the real Predator traits that was lacking in the film.
Maybe he did take more trophies, we just didn't see it because the film kept us with Naru.
Quote from: Engineer on Aug 28, 2022, 11:36:23 PMQuote from: oduodu on Aug 28, 2022, 12:03:11 PMbecause i cant where i am at the moment. it be a few months. i do apologise. i just want make something clear. i value this webiste's opinion more than any other. i dont trust the msm and their opinion on anything. nor do i trust youtubers opinion i have seen a bit on youtube actually i could have seen the full final fight but decided not to. i look at certain members reactions to this movie based on the knowledge that their previous record of posts have always been on par and insightfull and that it rarely changed ove say a 5 yer period. a lot of people here right now will leave the site and we wont see them again. i am trying to guage if the people whose opinion i know and trust doesnt change overnight . thats how i know what to think. as i am not as invested in predator as in alien i am trying to guage what the these long time fans think of the movie.
that covers sil and corporal.
my main issue is the portrayal of the predator. what i think is not important. does the long time fans also agree with the way the predator has been portrayed?
and ffs i have seen enough of the movie to ask a valid question like that.
sil has gripes with it
corporal seems to love it(i think based on his review)
aj had similar issues(saying that predator felt more like a slasher than a predator)
i just want to know what the long time fans thinks of the pred in this movie.
ty
Long time fan here. Been a regular at this site for years too. I loved feral. I don't think he's poorly written. I don't think he's careless or out of control. I don't think he lost his identity as a hunter. I don't think he was reduced to a generic slasher villain.
He's inexperienced, with earth, and has a different style of hunting from other predators we've seen. That gives him more identity imo more distinguishable from the other predators we've seen. He's not just a clone of jungle hunter or something...
But anyway... he really was stalking his prey and watching them.
- When naru fought the cat, she was distracted by a red shimmer; was that not feral watching from a distance?
- He heard naru's dog bark and he went to investigate (This was in the cave while he was cleaning his wolf skull).
- He picks up and inspects the same cigar that naru did, studying it (and tracking her obviously; being on her trail ever since hearing her dog bark).
- He fought the bear, toyed with it then just obliterated it with minimal effort... more importantly, immediately after killing the bear, he watched naru flee, then continued following her. (Maybe he jumped in to save naru? I don't think so personally, but he was tracking naru; I think he saw the bear and decided to have fun with it).
- He didn't immediately jump in and kill everyone once naru was taken captive by her tribe; he watched, then decided to jump into the action.
- After this brawl, He followed naru again but didn't charge into that field mindlessly until he missed a shot with his bolt gun and naru and the other guy started to run again.
- When naru gets caught in the bear trap, he catches up with her, inspects the trap, hears the fur trappers coming then leaves. - The fur trappers had an encounter with feral or some other predator before; if you translate the French they say something about "she's seen it."
- The fur trappers use her and her brother as bait; the bait works because feral was already tracking naru (imo he seemed interested in naru but wasn't sure she'd be the challenge he's looking for).
- The fur trappers set a trap for feral, but even then he didn't just mindlessly charge in; feral killed the Calvary hanging out at the top of the hill and he did it pretty stealthily since they never saw him coming until it was too late.
- After that, yes he walks into the trap, but he sees naru and taabe tied up. He's moving in to inspect them and their binding just like he inspected the bear trap naru was caught in before. He sees no danger, probably because he thought he killed every threat around when he slaughtered the guys on the hill moments before. The rest of the fur trappers were hidden and they outsmarted him. That's no different than Dutch's net trap working on jungle hunter, or Keye's trap for city hunter in the slaughterhouse. The trap didn't work, and feral went to town and slaughtered everyone.
- Naru escapes again; her and taabe split up. She gets back to the French's camp and who eventually shows up? Feral. He doesn't go after taabe, he goes where naru is, because he's still tracking her. He seems careless again but naru has already killed just about everyone in that camp. So feral sees a bunch of cold bodies and probably doesn't think there's any threats to worry about.
- Flash forward again, and naru sets the trap this time. She outsmarted the predator and they get into their final battle. He underestimates naru, in a similar sort of fashion as jungle hunter underestimating Dutch.
Sorry for the book here, but honestly, I see a hunter tracking a target that he is at least somewhat interested in. He doesn't seem to think naru is much of a threat most of the time, but if I were feral I would have followed her around too! Wherever she went, interesting prey showed up (the cat, the bear, human warriors and hunters). I see him watching his prey. I see him ambush unsuspecting French trappers. And I see him fall for traps set by people, and predators falling for traps is definitely nothing new for the movies.
Quote from: 426Buddy on Aug 28, 2022, 12:16:08 PMFeral watches his prey, uses his technology to hide, and moves through the trees. We see him tracking when examining the cigar and leaf. We see him in the trees watching the Comanche and taking note of their weapons. He uses tactics, advanced weapons, and combat skills. He looks for the strongest prey to provide the most challenge.
Feral only goes berserk when he is ambushed by many foes and unable to cloak. He uses his full arsenal, kills them, and escapes the situation via the trees/bombs. He's never really in any trouble until he fights Taabe, where he uses his cloak to win the fight. After that Naru is the one hunting him until the end of the film.
Taken in context of the events shown I think Feral absolutly acts like a predator. Comparisons to Jason Vorhees and slashers don't jive with the film I watched. But much like the myth that Feral didn't know how to use his bolt gun, i'm sure this Jason comparison will be around forever now.
Ha! I should have kept reading. You said a lot of the same things I just did lol
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Damn, you really do post daleks everywhere lol
You're a fine Scotsman. A fine Scotsman indeed. Have some jerky.
All of these hangups about Feral and no one addresses why the hare didn't zig-zag 😂, maybe it's not a true hare either... 🤔
Quote from: PAS Spinelli on Aug 28, 2022, 10:32:30 AMCity Hunter had prior experience or at least knowledge about humans, Feral didn't.
Yeah, and that's exactly why he was supposed to take time and care before entering the action. He was cautious with snake and the wolf then all.of the sudden he becomes careless. First with the bear and the absolutely happy-go-lucky with French trappers. They only couldn't kill him, because their weapons wasn't sufficient enough. Give the trappers guns from Predator era (or bigger guns from XVIII century) and Fearl is dead meat.
This one acts as killer frenzied in the deed itself, not like come and stealthy hunter. That diminishes the character (along with constant simplifying Predators equipment that happens in last three subsequent instalments).
Quote from: Master on Aug 29, 2022, 09:30:58 AMconstant simplifying Predators equipment that happens in last three subsequent instalments
What do you mean?
Loss of preasure cables, netting, troophy necklace. The final travesty was Upgrade that didn't even had a mask. Fearl, while I dig the masked design, goes with that trend.
I would've liked to see more cabling on Feral. The whole "he's more primitive" thing doesn't really fly against the whole "he's an interstellar traveler". He would need a more robust life support system, not less.
He sneaks up on the Frenchmen, then the ash short circuits his cloaking, so he's like, f**k it, "I'm gonna have me some fun". ;D
Predators will sometimes claim outright that if any predator who claims to be a member of group X and has Y characteristic, is not a member of group X. Ask a predator if those who claim to be a member of group X and has Y characteristic would agree, then get down and dirty with some juicy ribs.
I don't really buy the "more primitive" angle. I like to think of it more of a new adventure ( or old :P )
Not everything the director/crew says in random interviews should be taken as gospel. Unless we want to start listening to Ridley Scott's ideas on the Alien.
I tend to judge film by what's on screen.
This Predator from Prey movie is probably the most stupid Predator so far. I can't believe it was possible but he is actually more stupid that Ultimate Predator from 2018.
He doesn't hide, he reveals himself in each situation, he is not stealthy, he steps in front of pistol and looks like idiot while somebody is targeting him. He badly injures himself by cutting his own arm, etc. And obviously, he doesn't know how his mask works, so he kills himself with arrows. Maybe this Predator is retarded or has autism (2018 idea).
Predator didn't kill Naru because she was trapped, but he killed man with amputated leg without weapons ? Where is logic or honor code in that ?
Who said there was a clear honor code to respect in the first place ?
Part of me wonders if the reason people are trying so desperately to diminish this Predator is because he was defeated by a woman.
Possibly.
Quote from: Preddie-nokas on Aug 29, 2022, 12:30:03 PMThis Predator from Prey movie is probably the most stupid Predator so far. I can't believe it was possible but he is actually more stupid that Ultimate Predator from 2018.
He doesn't hide, he reveals himself in each situation, he is not stealthy, he steps in front of pistol and looks like idiot while somebody is targeting him. He badly injures himself by cutting his own arm, etc. And obviously, he doesn't know how his mask works, so he kills himself with arrows. Maybe this Predator is retarded or has autism (2018 idea).
Predator didn't kill Naru because she was trapped, but he killed man with amputated leg without weapons ? Where is logic or honor code in that ?
French dude had a weapon and it was pointed at Feral. Even if he was injured, he was armed and aiming. Naru didn't show her weapon when caught in her trap, and he watched the French men take her. Observing and hunting, like Predators do.
I was not thinking about that dude, but the dude who gave Naru pistol for orange flower. He was pretending to be dead, didn't attack Predator, and Predator killed him.
And that idea that orange flower will give you invisibility on thermal camera, god such a stupid idea. Even if flower somehow lowers your body temperature, it will be by 1-2 degrees, which would do nothing for thermal view. If flower would somehow lower your temperature by some meaningful degree, you would die due to hypothermia. Also Naru couldn't know what thermal view is, and by following movie logic why Predator saw her in the final battle when he was without a mask ?
I can understand almost anything, except how stupid the Predator was. He was cocky, always roared like some kind of idiot, constantly visible, going in direct combat, standing there in the open, standing in front of the pistol, cutting his own hand, killing himself. IQ of this Predator was max 60-70. If Jungle Hunter behaved like this, he would be killed at the beginning of the movie.
Lol he was being a cocky bastard in front of that pistol, he knew the bullet wouldn't penetrate. Feral is just cocky and arrogant all round. Probably an adolescent; probably has peers back home that perspire over meaningless minutiae online as well. 🤣
That damn jerky he makes sure is fine though.
The mud covering making you invisble to thermal imagery is also not believable at all.
Quote from: BigDaddyJohn on Aug 29, 2022, 02:58:39 PMThe mud covering making you invisble to thermal imagery is also not believable at all.
For a very short amount of time mud can block heat dissipation, but very soon mud will become warm and dry. But orange flower, is plain stupid.
Mythbusters tested mud, and yeah, it will not work either for more than several seconds. But we don't know how sensitive Predator's thermal vision is, considering he can space travel, it should be extremely sensitive.
It is pretty much real and can be likely used as shown as much as the mud can in real life if not more so honestly.
From the bulk of the article:
"However, with that said, the flower seems to have a lot in common with calendula plants. Like those depicted in Prey, calendula flowers are bright orange in color and have been used for centuries both in cooking and for medical purposes.
During the Civil War, the flower was also used to stop bleeding from combat wounds, just as Naru uses it to treat one of the French hunters after a Predator cut his leg. In addition, calendula flowers are also known to relieve fever and treat severe infections, which may explain why Naru gives them to wounded warriors and applies them to their wounds.
Naru becomes invisible to the Predator when she ingests the orange flower because the flower reduces her body temperature. It likely does so by dilating her blood vessels, which allows blood to flow to her skin's surface and remove heat from her body's core."
Your link doesn't work, I tried to find sources:
https://www.somagnews.com/is-the-orange-flower-prey-real-and-how-dangerous-is-it/
"Since Naru and her mother use the local name "orange tutsia" to describe the flower, it is difficult to determine whether it is real or exists only in the Prey universe."
Intergalactic tribal trophy hunter? Sure I can buy that.
Plant that lowers body temperature? Ridiculous!
Calendula flowers! Absolutely ridiculous.
Quote from: Preddie-nokas on Aug 29, 2022, 12:30:03 PMThis Predator from Prey movie is probably the most stupid Predator so far. I can't believe it was possible but he is actually more stupid that Ultimate Predator from 2018.
He doesn't hide, he reveals himself in each situation, he is not stealthy, he steps in front of pistol and looks like idiot while somebody is targeting him. He badly injures himself by cutting his own arm, etc. And obviously, he doesn't know how his mask works, so he kills himself with arrows. Maybe this Predator is retarded or has autism (2018 idea).
Predator didn't kill Naru because she was trapped, but he killed man with amputated leg without weapons ? Where is logic or honor code in that ?
I'm going to ignore most of this because I've already talked about it and I don't want to type that all out again lol
But, feral killed adolini because when he stepped on him the guy popped up screaming. I don't know about you, but if a guy I thought was dead suddenly popped up screaming near me, it would startle me too. His reaction to that was reflexive; all fight no flight. He killed adolini out of reflex when startled. What's hard to believe about that?
Quote from: Preddie-nokas on Aug 29, 2022, 01:46:25 PMI was not thinking about that dude, but the dude who gave Naru pistol for orange flower. He was pretending to be dead, didn't attack Predator, and Predator killed him.
And that idea that orange flower will give you invisibility on thermal camera, god such a stupid idea. Even if flower somehow lowers your body temperature, it will be by 1-2 degrees, which would do nothing for thermal view. If flower would somehow lower your temperature by some meaningful degree, you would die due to hypothermia. Also Naru couldn't know what thermal view is, and by following movie logic why Predator saw her in the final battle when he was without a mask ?
I can understand almost anything, except how stupid the Predator was. He was cocky, always roared like some kind of idiot, constantly visible, going in direct combat, standing there in the open, standing in front of the pistol, cutting his own hand, killing himself. IQ of this Predator was max 60-70. If Jungle Hunter behaved like this, he would be killed at the beginning of the movie.
A 1 to 2 degree drop in body temp correlates to a recently dead body being dead for about an hour or so. Adolini wasn't invisible to feral. You can see him through feral's point of view. But he was cool enough that feral probably though he was dead recently; body temp being below normal.
Plus, we don't know how the mask augments his view. Maybe it filters things out so he can focus more on his targets. We see that in predator 1 actually. None of the trees looked blue once that mask came off. Perhaps the mask saw a lower temp and de-emphasized that part of image. Just a thought.
*Edit: just a quick addition. If I saw a guy missing half his leg with a trail of blood behind it, I would have believed him to be recently dead too (especially if I could also see his body temp and that it was a couple degrees below normal).
Quote from: Engineer on Aug 29, 2022, 04:12:26 AMMaybe he did take more trophies, we just didn't see it because the film kept us with Naru.
I mean it would have been on his person, seeing that he had the snake and wolf skull on him.
Quote from: Mr.Turok on Aug 29, 2022, 03:55:46 PMQuote from: Engineer on Aug 29, 2022, 04:12:26 AMMaybe he did take more trophies, we just didn't see it because the film kept us with Naru.
I mean it would have been on his person, seeing that he had the snake and wolf skull on him.
Perhaps. Or maybe he left them somewhere safe to pick up later so he wouldn't have too much to carry around. I don't recall seeing jungle hunter carrying around many human skulls on a belt in the first movie, but they do show us he has them stored somewhere safe. Same thing with city hunter.
Plus, there did seem to be an unspecified amount of time that passed while naru was helping adolini before feral showed up. Who knows how long that period of time was; feral could have easily been stringing up bodies and collecting trophies before continuing on his hunt.
Quote from: 426Buddy on Aug 29, 2022, 01:25:39 PMPart of me wonders if the reason people are trying so desperately to diminish this Predator is because he was defeated by a woman.
What next? We are racist becuse we don't like this different race of Predator? :laugh:
Quote from: Master on Aug 29, 2022, 04:17:24 PMQuote from: 426Buddy on Aug 29, 2022, 01:25:39 PMPart of me wonders if the reason people are trying so desperately to diminish this Predator is because he was defeated by a woman.
What next? We are racist becuse we don't like this different race of Predator? :laugh:
Just the idea that you think that is far fetched is pretty funny to me. I know a lot of guys irl who would have been totally on board with this film if Taabe had been the main character.
I just can't see how people keep pushing literally the dumbest takes possible regarding this predator. What's next, the blood the wrong shade of glowy green?
I don't like the face design at all and I get a lot of the criticisms. I don't mind if people don't like the film. Just have a valid point that hasn't been debunked and explained by engineer a 100 times.
Quote from: Preddie-nokas on Aug 29, 2022, 12:30:03 PMThis Predator from Prey movie is probably the most stupid Predator so far. I can't believe it was possible but he is actually more stupid that Ultimate Predator from 2018.
Wolf still exists
QuotePredator didn't kill Naru because she was trapped, but he killed man with amputated leg without weapons ? Where is logic or honor code in that ?
Because he got there likely by tracking his blood? We saw him follow it to his body, also, that was HIS game, HE caused that injury, as a hunter you are meant to finish off your game if you missed it and let it run off.
Quote from: Engineer on Aug 28, 2022, 11:36:23 PMDamn, you really do post daleks everywhere lol
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Quote from: Master on Aug 29, 2022, 04:17:24 PMQuote from: 426Buddy on Aug 29, 2022, 01:25:39 PMPart of me wonders if the reason people are trying so desperately to diminish this Predator is because he was defeated by a woman.
What next? We are racist becuse we don't like this different race of Predator? :laugh:
@426Buddy makes an excellent point. Many fans seem to be subconsciously or consciously mad at the movie because a woman defeats the Predator -- finding that unbelievable, too PC, too woke, whatever. Too bad that Predator was "woke" from the start...
The dismissal of Feral seems to be confined to the old core Predator fanbase that wants all Predators to look like the Winston ones (same as the old Alien fanbase that wants all Aliens to look like Giger's, the Godzilla fanbase wanting all Godzillas to look like the established stationary formula, the Geewunners who want all Optimus Primes to be blocky ass 80s designs like G1 Prime is, so on and so forth). It's nothing new. Not racism as much as it is museification, sometimes with terrible ableist jokes thrown in (on social media, I've seen Feral being called things like 'mongoloid', which is a european insult for some disabled people, I've seen it called other names too)
Difficult to try and be racist with a series whose best hero is Lieutenant motherf**king Harrigan
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QuoteBecause he got there likely by tracking his blood? We saw him follow it to his body, also, that was HIS game, HE caused that injury, as a hunter you are meant to finish off your game if you missed it and let it run off.
This is a good point too.
(I kinda screwed up the quote lol but this will do)
I'm not bothered that Naru won, I'm bothered that the ending required Feral to be a moron for the headshot to even happen. He should know full well how his own equipment works and yet for the movie to end he has to draw a weapon he knows damn well won't work.
Quote from: SuperiorIronman on Aug 29, 2022, 06:37:20 PMI'm not bothered that Naru won, I'm bothered that the ending required Feral to be a moron for the headshot to even happen. He should know full well how his own equipment works and yet for the movie to end he has to draw a weapon he knows damn well won't work.
Predators aren't always the brightest. Their hubris gets the better of them - and this is Feral's first (and only) time on Earth
Quote from: SuperiorIronman on Aug 29, 2022, 06:37:20 PMI'm not bothered that Naru won, I'm bothered that the ending required Feral to be a moron for the headshot to even happen. He should know full well how his own equipment works and yet for the movie to end he has to draw a weapon he knows damn well won't work.
He was tricked.
He never forgot how his weapon worked lol
He's hardly the first predator to be tricked by a human, too; let alone hardly the first to have one of his own weapons used against him.
Quote from: SuperiorIronman on Aug 29, 2022, 06:37:20 PMI'm not bothered that Naru won, I'm bothered that the ending required Feral to be a moron for the headshot to even happen. He should know full well how his own equipment works and yet for the movie to end he has to draw a weapon he knows damn well won't work.
Feral had no reason to think the helmet was targeting anything to begin with, and even if he tried blocking it with the shield it likely would go through and get past before it breaks, not mentioning how his gear was covered in mud
But then why fire it? Even if it wasn't aimed at him it's not going to hit Naru hence why he goes to use it.
It can't be dummy fired, it's established it will go where the laser is aimed. Even if it's not aimed at him it still has him be inexcusably dumb. Say the laser wasn't aimed at him. What was he planning on doing with it otherwise? He fires a gun he knows won't work, misses, and then what? Awkwardly shuffle over to Naru?
Quote from: 426Buddy on Aug 29, 2022, 01:25:39 PMPart of me wonders if the reason people are trying so desperately to diminish this Predator is because he was defeated by a woman.
This has powerful "you don't like it because you don't
get it" energy. Leave the
ad hominems at the door please.
Quote from: SuperiorIronman on Aug 29, 2022, 07:05:09 PMBut then why fire it? Even if it wasn't aimed at him it's not going to hit Naru hence why he goes to use it.
It can't be dummy fired, it's established it will go where the laser is aimed. Even if it's not aimed at him it still has him be inexcusably dumb. Say the laser wasn't aimed at him. What was he planning on doing with it otherwise? He fires a gun he knows won't work, misses, and then what? Awkwardly shuffle over to Naru?
Annnnd... how do we know it can't be fired without the Laser tracking? Obviously it can...
Think of laser-guided missiles. We have them. They can be aimed and fired without being laser-guided. But if you use the laser to guide the missile it's a lot easier to make sure you hit your target.
Obviously, feral tried to fire his weapon without the laser-guidance system but he was tricked. He didn't realize his prey figured out how to use that laser-guidance system against him. It's really not that much of a stretch. Even though he was tricked, his bolt still damn near caught naru in the face. Another couple of inches and she would have died too. There was still some luck involved here, just like there was with Dutch.
Quote from: PAS Spinelli on Aug 29, 2022, 04:35:13 PMBecause he got there likely by tracking his blood? We saw him follow it to his body, also, that was HIS game, HE caused that injury, as a hunter you are meant to finish off your game if you missed it and let it run off.
He also was running after Naru, she felt in trap because Feral was behind her, so why he didn't finish her ? By the logic, Feral should have finished his hunt.
Quote from: Preddie-nokas on Aug 29, 2022, 07:35:44 PMQuote from: PAS Spinelli on Aug 29, 2022, 04:35:13 PMBecause he got there likely by tracking his blood? We saw him follow it to his body, also, that was HIS game, HE caused that injury, as a hunter you are meant to finish off your game if you missed it and let it run off.
He also was running after Naru, she felt in trap because Feral was behind her, so why he didn't finish her ? By the logic, Feral should have finished his hunt.
Because that wasn't his game any longer, she fell to another hunter's trap, stealing someone else's game is not something you are allowed to do, even if you were chasing it beforehand.
Quote from: Preddie-nokas on Aug 29, 2022, 07:35:44 PMQuote from: PAS Spinelli on Aug 29, 2022, 04:35:13 PMBecause he got there likely by tracking his blood? We saw him follow it to his body, also, that was HIS game, HE caused that injury, as a hunter you are meant to finish off your game if you missed it and let it run off.
He also was running after Naru, she felt in trap because Feral was behind her, so why he didn't finish her ? By the logic, Feral should have finished his hunt.
He... he, tried... she was saved by taabe.
Quote from: Engineer on Aug 29, 2022, 07:38:07 PMQuote from: Preddie-nokas on Aug 29, 2022, 07:35:44 PMQuote from: PAS Spinelli on Aug 29, 2022, 04:35:13 PMBecause he got there likely by tracking his blood? We saw him follow it to his body, also, that was HIS game, HE caused that injury, as a hunter you are meant to finish off your game if you missed it and let it run off.
He also was running after Naru, she felt in trap because Feral was behind her, so why he didn't finish her ? By the logic, Feral should have finished his hunt.
He... he, tried... she was saved by taabe.
he is talking about the moment where she gets caught in a bear trap
Quote from: PAS Spinelli on Aug 29, 2022, 07:37:28 PMQuote from: Preddie-nokas on Aug 29, 2022, 07:35:44 PMQuote from: PAS Spinelli on Aug 29, 2022, 04:35:13 PMBecause he got there likely by tracking his blood? We saw him follow it to his body, also, that was HIS game, HE caused that injury, as a hunter you are meant to finish off your game if you missed it and let it run off.
He also was running after Naru, she felt in trap because Feral was behind her, so why he didn't finish her ? By the logic, Feral should have finished his hunt.
Because that wasn't his game any longer, she fell to another hunter's trap, stealing someone else's game is not something you are allowed to do, even if you were chasing it beforehand.
Oh, talking about the bear trap? Yea she was helpless at that moment. As Dutch would have said "no sport."
Quote from: PAS Spinelli on Aug 29, 2022, 07:39:05 PMQuote from: Engineer on Aug 29, 2022, 07:38:07 PMQuote from: Preddie-nokas on Aug 29, 2022, 07:35:44 PMQuote from: PAS Spinelli on Aug 29, 2022, 04:35:13 PMBecause he got there likely by tracking his blood? We saw him follow it to his body, also, that was HIS game, HE caused that injury, as a hunter you are meant to finish off your game if you missed it and let it run off.
He also was running after Naru, she felt in trap because Feral was behind her, so why he didn't finish her ? By the logic, Feral should have finished his hunt.
He... he, tried... she was saved by taabe.
he is talking about the moment where she gets caught in a bear trap
Yea I figured that out lol my bad
Quote from: SiL on Aug 29, 2022, 07:21:40 PMQuote from: 426Buddy on Aug 29, 2022, 01:25:39 PMPart of me wonders if the reason people are trying so desperately to diminish this Predator is because he was defeated by a woman.
This has powerful "you don't like it because you don't get it" energy. Leave the ad hominems at the door please.
I dunno Sil, it really does seem most people here actually don't get what is happening in the movie, sometimes on purpose too.
Quote from: SiL on Aug 29, 2022, 07:21:40 PMQuote from: 426Buddy on Aug 29, 2022, 01:25:39 PMPart of me wonders if the reason people are trying so desperately to diminish this Predator is because he was defeated by a woman.
This has powerful "you don't like it because you don't get it" energy. Leave the ad hominems at the door please.
I don't mind people disliking the film. People spinning demonstrably false criticisms over and over again makes it feel like there is a different underlying issue though.
Quote from: PAS Spinelli on Aug 29, 2022, 07:41:38 PMQuote from: SiL on Aug 29, 2022, 07:21:40 PMQuote from: 426Buddy on Aug 29, 2022, 01:25:39 PMPart of me wonders if the reason people are trying so desperately to diminish this Predator is because he was defeated by a woman.
This has powerful "you don't like it because you don't get it" energy. Leave the ad hominems at the door please.
I dunno Sil, it really does seem most people here actually don't get what is happening in the movie, sometimes on purpose too.
I hate to say it, but I agree. There's a lot of people who's only real complaint is that naru is a woman. I've seen lots of "Naru Sue" remarks, pretty much a dog whistle for sexism. And a lot of "pocohantas" jabs which is rooted in both sexism and racism. Most of this Has been at FB though.
Legitimate gripes are one thing; these are another. Wouldn't be surprised if a lot of those folks haven't even seen the movie for themselves either...
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As one of the few females here I can lend some perspective re male chauvinism and entitlement 😂 More prevalent on Facebook about this film than here however I must say. So many tears shed over little brown girl beat a handicapped Predator. 😂
Someone did however try to argue that their appearance was due to disability lmao Can't we just accept Feral is different than the others, you don't have to like him, but he's ostracised enough back home. He's a simple jerky maker and wine lover. 🍷
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Back on topic, I think?
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Feral evolved to feed on different things than the other preds, we have an actual BTS reason behind his design, so it's completely fine imo
Just because there's a justification doesn't mean people have to like the outcome though.
Quote from: SiL on Aug 30, 2022, 12:44:03 AMJust because there's a justification doesn't mean people have to like the outcome though.
No one ever said that people should...
Personally, I haven't liked any predator designs since predator 2 until now, but even though I didn't like Mr. Black I still thoroughly enjoyed Predators.
I know, but a common rebuttal to people not liking the design is "it's meant to look different! It's this, it's that".
Oh I know. That's exactly the same sort of convo I was on the other side of 12 years ago, and my response was always "yea good movie, good concept. I like the creature diversity it adds, but the design just wasn't my favorite."
Quote from: Engineer on Aug 29, 2022, 04:09:33 PMQuote from: Mr.Turok on Aug 29, 2022, 03:55:46 PMQuote from: Engineer on Aug 29, 2022, 04:12:26 AMMaybe he did take more trophies, we just didn't see it because the film kept us with Naru.
I mean it would have been on his person, seeing that he had the snake and wolf skull on him.
Perhaps. Or maybe he left them somewhere safe to pick up later so he wouldn't have too much to carry around. I don't recall seeing jungle hunter carrying around many human skulls on a belt in the first movie, but they do show us he has them stored somewhere safe. Same thing with city hunter.
Plus, there did seem to be an unspecified amount of time that passed while naru was helping adolini before feral showed up. Who knows how long that period of time was; feral could have easily been stringing up bodies and collecting trophies before continuing on his hunt.
Yeah and wouldn't that be a neat thing to see instead of perhaps theorizing it happened? Like how the first two films showed all of that neat stuff. Better to see it in front of me then imagine the Predator doing all of that. Especially since the point of hunting is to collect trophies, then lets see more of that. Like how if I'm hungry, instead of imagining a burger, I just go out and buy one.
Quote from: Mr.Turok on Aug 30, 2022, 02:44:52 AMQuote from: Engineer on Aug 29, 2022, 04:09:33 PMQuote from: Mr.Turok on Aug 29, 2022, 03:55:46 PMQuote from: Engineer on Aug 29, 2022, 04:12:26 AMMaybe he did take more trophies, we just didn't see it because the film kept us with Naru.
I mean it would have been on his person, seeing that he had the snake and wolf skull on him.
Perhaps. Or maybe he left them somewhere safe to pick up later so he wouldn't have too much to carry around. I don't recall seeing jungle hunter carrying around many human skulls on a belt in the first movie, but they do show us he has them stored somewhere safe. Same thing with city hunter.
Plus, there did seem to be an unspecified amount of time that passed while naru was helping adolini before feral showed up. Who knows how long that period of time was; feral could have easily been stringing up bodies and collecting trophies before continuing on his hunt.
Yeah and wouldn't that be a neat thing to see instead of perhaps theorizing it happened? Like how the first two films showed all of that neat stuff. Better to see it in front of me then imagine the Predator doing all of that. Especially since the point of hunting is to collect trophies, then lets see more of that. Like how if I'm hungry, instead of imagining a burger, I just go out and buy one.
I don't need to see that stuff, to believe it happened offscreen. I already know why it's hunting, it doesn't need to be explained to me again. So, I guess that's just not something that bothered me much. It's like eating or going to the bathroom; I don't need to see it, to believe it's doing those things too when it needs to.
Quote from: SiL on Aug 30, 2022, 01:51:32 AMI know, but a common rebuttal to people not liking the design is "it's meant to look different! It's this, it's that".
That's true 👁🦋👁 👆 sometimes when you don't like something, people think you can't understand it. But guess what, I totally get it and I still don't like it! lol 😂
Quote from: Immortan Jonesy on Aug 30, 2022, 03:11:21 AMQuote from: SiL on Aug 30, 2022, 01:51:32 AMI know, but a common rebuttal to people not liking the design is "it's meant to look different! It's this, it's that".
That's true 👁🦋👁 👆 sometimes when you don't like something, people think you can't understand it. But guess what, I totally get it and I still don't like it! lol 😂
Agree. And I've been there. Lol
Also common, and I'm not accusing anyone here of this... people comment why they liked something then others who don't like it chime in as if it was a remark directed to them specifically (which, can lead to a spiraling convo).
Quote from: Immortan Jonesy on Aug 30, 2022, 03:11:21 AMQuote from: SiL on Aug 30, 2022, 01:51:32 AMI know, but a common rebuttal to people not liking the design is "it's meant to look different! It's this, it's that".
That's true 👁🦋👁 👆 sometimes when you don't like something, people think you can't understand it. But guess what, I totally get it and I still don't like it! lol 😂
"You just don't get it" really needs to die as a defence.
At this point, I just want the mandibles to close properly in that x manner and no big Disney eyes. Not hang in a silly manner like a broken Halloween mask, just proper biological closure of the mandibles over the mouth. That is just my only two check lists for a facial design of the Pred.
Quote from: SiL on Aug 30, 2022, 01:51:32 AMI know, but a common rebuttal to people not liking the design is "it's meant to look different! It's this, it's that".
Yeah because the criticisms towards the work tend to be overly harsh about the differences and lack of museum-ification
(not yours, necessarily)
None of which is going to be swayed with "but it's meant to look like that because reason(s)!"
When people say they want Predators that look like Predators and the response is "but this one is from a different hemisphere! Different climate!" - so what? None of that means it had to look the way it does.
If people are happy with the justification and roll with it, cool. If they're not happy and don't roll with it, also cool.
Quote from: SiL on Aug 30, 2022, 07:52:11 PMNone of which is going to be swayed with "but it's meant to look like that because reason(s)!"
This assumes the intention is to sway
Quote from: SiL on Aug 30, 2022, 07:52:11 PMWhen people say they want Predators that look like Predators and the response is "but this one is from a different hemisphere! Different climate!" - so what? None of that means it had to look the way it does.
Indeed, but again, it all depends on how the opinion is expressed
Quote from: SiL on Aug 30, 2022, 07:52:11 PMIf people are happy with the justification and roll with it, cool. If they're not happy and don't roll with it, also cool.
Indeed, never claimed the opposite
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You know, I think it would be interesting if Naru gets the comic pirate Raphael route in the sequel. I don't know exactly how it will lead, but like a rival from another tribe or European frontiersman, a second antagonist that is also a threat throughout the film gets Naru before Greyback has the final showdown. Like both sides grow a rivaling respect for each other and Greyback get's angered that Naru gets offed in a dishonorable way that he kills her killer, hear out her final request or words and she gives the pistol to him as she passes on. It would be an interesting new dynamic for a Predator film where both sides have a begrudging respect for one another even knowing full well that this will end in one way only. Just a food for thought.
Definitely an interesting way to have a Predator win.
Quote from: Mr.Turok on Aug 31, 2022, 04:13:53 AMYou know, I think it would be interesting if Naru gets the comic pirate Raphael route in the sequel. I don't know exactly how it will lead, but like a rival from another tribe or European frontiersman, a second antagonist that is also a threat throughout the film gets Naru before Greyback has the final showdown. Like both sides grow a rivaling respect for each other and Greyback get's angered that Naru gets offed in a dishonorable way that he kills her killer, hear out her final request or words and she gives the pistol to him as she passes on. It would be an interesting new dynamic for a Predator film where both sides have a begrudging respect for one another even knowing full well that this will end in one way only. Just a food for thought.
The only problem with this is the comic takes place in 1718 while the movie prey is in 1719.
I don't think he meant literally do the comic, but rather if you take the relationship from it and replace Adolini with Naru in the comic -- how they form an uneasy alliance against a more pressing threat that ends poorly for the human.
Quote from: SiL on Aug 31, 2022, 06:09:34 AMI don't think he meant literally do the comic, but rather if you take the relationship from it and replace Adolini with Naru in the comic -- how they form an uneasy alliance against a more pressing threat that ends poorly for the human.
Yes, exactly this.
Cloaked Feral chasing Itsee and Naru through the tall grass is a great scene!
Why Naru's leg wasn't broken after falling into a bear trap. She wasn't injured at all, except some blood when trap crushed her leg.
It is one of many illogical things in this movie.
Because if it had any power to it, the tail of the dog would have been halfed by the trap earlier in the film, but as it showed it only dealt a flesh wound.
I have a couple of thoughts about the bear traps...
1) A lot of the traps we see are smaller. Obviously not meant for a bear; more like it's meant for smaller game, like a wolf, even though we still call it a "bear" trap. Those smaller traps won't be as powerful, otherwise the traps would amputate rather than trap (and a wolf with an amputated leg can still travel a long ways).
2) Springs wear out over time, especially when they are over-stretched or over-compressed (i.e., a bear trap stretched open for long periods of time awaiting an animal to trigger it). Those traps looked pretty old and rusty to me. They were probably old and worn out, leading to a less powerful trap, but they're still in use because they're still functional and capable of trapping animals. Plus, back then, it probably wasn't feasible for the French fur trappers to travel back home across the Atlantic to buy new bear traps when their current supply starts to wear out; they'd just have to make do with what they had...
I thought it was indeed small traps to slow you down more than to f**k you up completely. There was probably other bigger traps elsewhere though.
Quote from: Preddie-nokas on Sep 04, 2022, 09:35:30 AMWhy Naru's leg wasn't broken after falling into a bear trap. She wasn't injured at all, except some blood when trap crushed her leg.
It is one of many illogical things in this movie.
In hunting, you don't want to destroy the leg. It'll damage the meat. Plus, letting it bleed out helps track and weaken the subject. Same with what happened to Edwin in Predators. Not meant to kill, just f**k up. Usually the damage is enough to not need to break the legs.
Quote from: Preddie-nokas on Sep 04, 2022, 09:35:30 AMIt is one of many illogical things in this movie.
As illogical as anything in Predator or Predator 2 :)
illogic worshipper is what yu are
Quote from: Omegamorph on Sep 04, 2022, 10:59:45 PMQuote from: Preddie-nokas on Sep 04, 2022, 09:35:30 AMIt is one of many illogical things in this movie.
As illogical as anything in Predator or Predator 2 :)
... like, outrunning a nuclear blast 300 city blocks in size and surviving the radioactive fallout... lol
Quote from: kwisatz on Sep 04, 2022, 11:03:59 PMillogic worshipper is what yu are
Beg your pardon?
Apologies. Please don't send those robots..
I just hope the reason we haven't heard anything about the next movie, is because some serious negotiating is going on.
Keeping hope alive for a physical release.
Quote from: kwisatz on Sep 04, 2022, 11:52:26 PMApologies. Please don't send those robots..
They ain't robots, ya carrot!
Quote from: RoguePred1987 on Sep 05, 2022, 12:02:41 AMI just hope the reason we haven't heard anything about the next movie, is because some serious negotiating is going on.
Keeping hope alive for a physical release.
That would be incredibly fast for them to already be talking about the next movie...
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I have no doubt there is already internal talk about future projects, but it will take time for any of it to be decided, even more for us to be made aware of it
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Quote from: Engineer on Sep 04, 2022, 11:39:49 PMQuote from: Omegamorph on Sep 04, 2022, 10:59:45 PMQuote from: Preddie-nokas on Sep 04, 2022, 09:35:30 AMIt is one of many illogical things in this movie.
As illogical as anything in Predator or Predator 2 :)
... like, outrunning a nuclear blast 300 city blocks in size and surviving the radioactive fallout... lol
To be fair (as possible) to that one, he survived by doing the action movie thing of jumping into the river (which everyone knows allows you to survive any explosion, since it goes over the top of you!), and it was never shown that there was any radiation afterwards (indeed an earlier draft of Predator 2 had Keyes explicitly say the explosion wasn't radioactive).
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Quote from: Kailem on Sep 05, 2022, 08:18:23 PMQuote from: Engineer on Sep 04, 2022, 11:39:49 PMQuote from: Omegamorph on Sep 04, 2022, 10:59:45 PMQuote from: Preddie-nokas on Sep 04, 2022, 09:35:30 AMIt is one of many illogical things in this movie.
As illogical as anything in Predator or Predator 2 :)
... like, outrunning a nuclear blast 300 city blocks in size and surviving the radioactive fallout... lol
To be fair (as possible) to that one, he survived by doing the action movie thing of jumping into the river (which everyone knows allows you to survive any explosion, since it goes over the top of you!), and it was never shown that there was any radiation afterwards (indeed an earlier draft of Predator 2 had Keyes explicitly say the explosion wasn't radioactive).
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The real point is that all of the main characters have their plot armor or what ever you want to call it. Their illogical moments; the details you can nitpick. Dutch surviving that blast was just as illogical if you really dive into it. So was harrigan surviving after the predator ship's thrusters launched him through the air (didn't incinerate him? Or at least leave him with some severe burns?). Or Ripley hanging on with the queen alien locked on to her ankle while the vacuum of space is trying to suck them out.
Quote from: Kailem on Sep 05, 2022, 08:18:23 PMQuote from: Engineer on Sep 04, 2022, 11:39:49 PMQuote from: Omegamorph on Sep 04, 2022, 10:59:45 PMQuote from: Preddie-nokas on Sep 04, 2022, 09:35:30 AMIt is one of many illogical things in this movie.
As illogical as anything in Predator or Predator 2 :)
... like, outrunning a nuclear blast 300 city blocks in size and surviving the radioactive fallout... lol
To be fair (as possible) to that one, he survived by doing the action movie thing of jumping into the river (which everyone knows allows you to survive any explosion, since it goes over the top of you!), and it was never shown that there was any radiation afterwards (indeed an earlier draft of Predator 2 had Keyes explicitly say the explosion wasn't radioactive).
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PHG says there was radiation and he almost died from it, but that and P2 are all essentially retcons
Quote from: PAS Spinelli on Sep 06, 2022, 12:26:08 AMQuote from: Kailem on Sep 05, 2022, 08:18:23 PMQuote from: Engineer on Sep 04, 2022, 11:39:49 PMQuote from: Omegamorph on Sep 04, 2022, 10:59:45 PMQuote from: Preddie-nokas on Sep 04, 2022, 09:35:30 AMIt is one of many illogical things in this movie.
As illogical as anything in Predator or Predator 2 :)
... like, outrunning a nuclear blast 300 city blocks in size and surviving the radioactive fallout... lol
To be fair (as possible) to that one, he survived by doing the action movie thing of jumping into the river (which everyone knows allows you to survive any explosion, since it goes over the top of you!), and it was never shown that there was any radiation afterwards (indeed an earlier draft of Predator 2 had Keyes explicitly say the explosion wasn't radioactive).
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PHG says there was radiation and he almost died from it, but that and P2 are all essentially retcons
PHG probably got that from the original trilogy of comics with Dutch's brother... they reveal that too, but then it ends in such a way that it seems like it might have been a lie as part of a coverup 🤷
Yeah I remember people saying the Predator 2 novelisation said that he had radiation poisoning after the blast, which is really one of the only things I disliked about the lore Hunting Grounds added. Like I get why they did, because it was there in the book, but I've always hated the idea of the Predators self-destruct being radioactive.
And yep, pretty much every character in every action story has some degree of plot armour or another. It's all just a matter of degrees.
Yup. Plot armor is what it is. But I don't think Naru's was any more off-the-wall or over-the-top than anyone else's from the previous movies.
I wonder if, with the seeming success of Prey, might we hear at the D23 Expo at the weekend that Dan has signed on for a follow up? Probably just a pipe dream from me though
Quote from: Doomofman on Sep 06, 2022, 02:02:36 PMI wonder if, with the seeming success of Prey, might we hear at the D23 Expo at the weekend that Dan has signed on for a follow up? Probably just a pipe dream from me though
Man that would be freaking awesome.
Fingers crossed!
Honestly, I wouldn't say an announcement in that vein would be out of the realm of possibility. Prey is Hulu's most successful movie ever; would be pretty smart of them to capitalize on that at their major event, if they do have a deal in place for another one.
I'm up for it, just hope Dan Trachtenberg's also up to it.
During her attempt to kill the mountain Lion, does anyone have a guess on what Feral was doing off in the distance? It happened right before Naru fell from the tree.
Looked to me like he set off the explosions like he did later.
Quote from: Master Chief on Oct 03, 2022, 04:37:51 AMDuring her attempt to kill the mountain Lion, does anyone have a guess on what Feral was doing off in the distance? It happened right before Naru fell from the tree.
Watching her
Quote from: KiramidHead on Oct 03, 2022, 04:39:33 AMLooked to me like he set off the explosions like he did later.
It's exactly that.
I assumed that was when he first met the French trappers
Yeah, that makes sense. They knew about the predator and that was most likely first contact.
Quote from: Master Chief on Oct 03, 2022, 08:26:07 PMYeah, that makes sense. They knew about the predator and that was most likely first contact.
I wish that was the case, but it was so vague and short of a scene to know, that it seems all like guess work here. That's a question I wish we can ask to one of the producers or Dan himself.
The red lights seen from a distance gave it away pretty easily though.
Yeah it's a pretty easy to connect the dots on that one.
Is it time to merge this Prey section to Predator?
Quote from: BigDaddyJohn on Oct 05, 2022, 03:34:19 PMThe red lights seen from a distance gave it away pretty easily though.
Only the cloaking from Feral but only that, I saw nothing else going on over there. It's still assumptions at that point.
You may need to watch it again, it's not his cloak lol.
Quote from: Mr.Turok on Oct 06, 2022, 03:56:48 AMQuote from: BigDaddyJohn on Oct 05, 2022, 03:34:19 PMThe red lights seen from a distance gave it away pretty easily though.
Only the cloaking from Feral but only that, I saw nothing else going on over there. It's still assumptions at that point.
Clearly it's red explosions, the ones we see ocurring later with the french guys. So no assumptions here at all.
Quote from: Mr.Turok on Oct 05, 2022, 12:02:34 AMQuote from: Master Chief on Oct 03, 2022, 08:26:07 PMYeah, that makes sense. They knew about the predator and that was most likely first contact.
I wish that was the case, but it was so vague and short of a scene to know, that it seems all like guess work here. That's a question I wish we can ask to one of the producers or Dan himself.
Pretty sure they've asked Dan in the recent AvPG interview that just went up.
But yeah; it was the same kind of red explosion we see Naru walking away from after her and Taabe escape from capture. That red light we see when Naru is fighting the cougar is the same, and how we are able to figure out that the trappers have experienced time with Feral before. The trappers had likely lost some men to him during Naru's time tracking Feral.
Quote from: Mike's Monsters on Oct 08, 2022, 06:23:29 PMQuote from: Mr.Turok on Oct 05, 2022, 12:02:34 AMQuote from: Master Chief on Oct 03, 2022, 08:26:07 PMYeah, that makes sense. They knew about the predator and that was most likely first contact.
I wish that was the case, but it was so vague and short of a scene to know, that it seems all like guess work here. That's a question I wish we can ask to one of the producers or Dan himself.
Pretty sure they've asked Dan in the recent AvPG interview that just went up.
But yeah; it was the same kind of red explosion we see Naru walking away from after her and Taabe escape from capture. That red light we see when Naru is fighting the cougar is the same, and how we are able to figure out that the trappers have experienced time with Feral before. The trappers had likely lost some men to him during Naru's time tracking Feral.
As of this point of the post, I'm still listening in on the interview (which is super great btw) and the reason why I had a hard time believing it is due to the idea of Feral running away from human beings doesn't make sense to me. Plus, doesn't it eliminate the idea of Feral going up the food chain to find out the most dangerous prey to hunt, since humans are sitting up at the top and already did hunt humans that much early on?
Yes it does, but that's a writing problem mostly.
Awful movie, with a Mary Sue character, lack of characterization for protagonists in general (unlike in the first, where one can sympathize with not only Dutch but with the rest of his crew), and a stupid predator.
Quote from: ralfy on Oct 27, 2022, 02:45:48 AMAwful movie, with a Mary Sue character, lack of characterization for protagonists in general (unlike in the first, where one can sympathize with not only Dutch but with the rest of his crew), and a stupid predator.
is this bait?
Quote from: PAS Spinelli on Oct 27, 2022, 03:21:07 AMQuote from: ralfy on Oct 27, 2022, 02:45:48 AMAwful movie, with a Mary Sue character, lack of characterization for protagonists in general (unlike in the first, where one can sympathize with not only Dutch but with the rest of his crew), and a stupid predator.
is this bait?
Probably not, unfortunately. Seen a lot of talk like this at Facebook.
I've seen the facebook comments and they are often made by old people or very insecure men, 80% of which haven't watched the movie
Quote from: ralfy on Oct 27, 2022, 02:45:48 AMAwful movie, with a Mary Sue character, lack of characterization for protagonists in general (unlike in the first, where one can sympathize with not only Dutch but with the rest of his crew), and a stupid predator.
Incase this is serious (I hope it isn't)
A Mary Sue is a perfect character who is perfect at everything and that everyone loves, Naru is disliked by the hunters in her Tribe, mocked and looked down upon by her family and her skills are flawed and she constantly f**ks up through the movie, so she can't be a Mary Sue.
Naru has way more characterization in this than Dutch had in the first movie (Dutch was the least developed character in that movie when you take in count how much screen time he had). Naru at the start is shown as cocky, confident and unskilled in the areas she wants to be skilled at the most, constantly failing to properly do the things she sets out to do, halfway through she starts adapting and improving, but still failing due to her own cockiness or lack or preparation, for instance, she constantly does things without thinking of the what will happen next, like attacking the bear or engaging in a fight with her own tribesmates. It's only AFTER she loses something dear to her that she properly plans out her actions and truly succeeds.
Feral isn't stupid, specially when compared to JH, CH, Fugitive and Wolf. He never does something downright stupid, but instead reckless because he is sure he will get away with it, he rushes at the Wolf and Bear because he knows he can kill them, he avoid using his own gear because he wants to have fun fighting them, the only times he gets surprised for rushing in is when the Trappers ambush him, and even then he quickly takes control of the situation and kills all of them.
How does Feral know he can kill the bear, exactly?
He's never met one. It's larger than he is. He's only seen it running at someone and shrug off a hit from an arrow.
He didn't "know" shit, but was willing to take the risk. The only reason people don't think it was a dumb idea is he survived; if he'd died, everyone would say "No shit, you moron."
That all said, Ralfy will not argue the film that exists in the world, he will argue the film that exists in his head, and it's not worth your time.
Likely cuz he has seen AND killed bigger at his planet? We have been way bigger in trophy walls belonging to Young Bloods (CH himself for example.), and the skull on his mask seems to be from a creature around the same size.
Quote from: SiL on Oct 27, 2022, 04:43:56 AMHow does Feral know he can kill the bear, exactly?
He's never met one. It's larger than he is. He's only seen it running at someone and shrug off a hit from an arrow.
He didn't "know" shit, but was willing to take the risk. The only reason people don't think it was a dumb idea is he survived; if he'd died, everyone would say "No shit, you moron."
That all said, Ralfy will not argue the film that exists in the world, he will argue the film that exists in his head, and it's not worth your time.
Feral had some cockiness and he was overly self confident, sure (we see overconfidence with the other preds too). But the bear being bigger doesn't matter so much imo
Feral was the more skilled hunter and he knew it. Humans behave the same way; especially in human-human conflicts where a smaller but more skilled fighter takes out a larger foe they had no familiarity with. Plus to be fair, feral was strong enough to lift the dead bear over his head, so he was definitely strong enough to tussle with a bear.
Feral didn't hunt the bear, though. He ran in and started punching it.
If it had played out like the trailer no argument, but it didn't.
And, again - that he turned out to be stronger than the bear is luck on his part. He didn't know that before he started fighting it.
Quote from: SiL on Oct 27, 2022, 05:12:00 AMFeral didn't hunt the bear, though. He ran in and started punching it.
If it had played out like the trailer no argument, but it didn't.
And, again - that he turned out to be stronger than the bear is luck on his part. He didn't know that before he started fighting it.
No, he wasn't hunting the bear, he was hunting naru. He went in punching the bear because he knew he'd win as the more skilled hunter between them, and he was having fun with it. Challenging himself.
The movie shows feral perk up when he hears her dog bark. Then it shows feral tracking her (i.e., inspecting the same discarded cigar). He was hunting naru. He just happened to catch up to her when she was being attacked by the bear... or maybe he watched her getting attacked to see what she'd do then intervened. Doesn't really matter. He knew he'd win and went for it. I don't see the problem there.
He wasn't hunting Naru. The whole point of the movie is Feral doesn't consider her a threat until it's too late.
He's never met a bear before. How did he know he'd beat it, he didn't know what it was capable of. Why didn't he shoot it from a distance like a Hunter, instead of trying to throw hands?
Like I said, easy to say he wasn't dumb when he won, but if he'd lost everyone would think it was stupid for a Predator who's on his first hunt on earth to try to grapple with a bear.
Friendly reminder to keep things light gents.
Quote from: SiL on Oct 27, 2022, 06:39:01 AMHe wasn't hunting Naru. The whole point of the movie is Feral doesn't consider her a threat until it's too late.
He's never met a bear before. How did he know he'd beat it, he didn't know what it was capable of. Why didn't he shoot it from a distance like a Hunter, instead of trying to throw hands?
Like I said, easy to say he wasn't dumb when he won, but if he'd lost everyone would think it was stupid for a Predator who's on his first hunt on earth to try to grapple with a bear.
He probably didn't shoot it from a distance for the same reason city hunter thought it was tactical/smart to smash through the roof of a train and take on dozens of passengers he'd never encountered before who were armed with guns and knives, then proceed to slaughter them by hand and blade. If city hunter had lost in that moment, everyone would have thought that was stupid too, so I'm still not seeing the point there. The scene served a purpose, narratively, and it accomplished exactly what it was supposed to accomplish: it introduced naru to the creature and alerted the audience to just how big and powerful feral really was. But as for his behavior? I don't see how this was any different behaviorally from any past predators deciding which of their prey to take on with CQC like Hawkins, Dillon, Dutch, at least some of the Colombians/Jamaicans, Peter Keyes's team (when he dropped in with his spear initially), hans, etc.
And yes he was hunting naru. Hence the scenes I mentioned before. Otherwise why show us that he was following her same path? Why show us feral taking interest in her dog barking? Now... *after* catching up with naru, and seeing her nearly die by the bear, ya maybe he did decide "nah she's not worthy prey." But initially, he only knew she was human and he did have previous encounters with humans so he tracked her down. If nothing else just following her seemed to bring him to more interesting prey (including the bear), so I could even see why he'd continue to track her even if he had decided she wasn't worthy prey initially. But nonetheless, he absolutely started following her immediately after cleaning that wolf skull, and he continued following her right up until their final show down...
He's not tracking her at the end, she had to lure him. That's the point. She had to prove she's worth his time.
But this is besides the point.
No, she lured him, because she was hiding herself. She used bait so she could finally have the advantage and surprise him. But he was still tracking her. Dutch lured jungle hunter too for the same reason; so he could stay hidden and finally give himself the advantage, but that doesn't change the fact that jungle hunter was actively hunting him.
I'm not arguing that she didn't have to prove her self as worthy prey (which Dutch didn't have to do at that point in the movie). It is common for hunters to track a target then decide not to kill it for some reason. For example, a deer hunter tracking a deer then seeing it's a youngster and deciding to Leave it be in favor of one with a bigger rack (more trophy worthy). But regardless, tracking a target is part of hunting even if it doesn't end in a kill, and feral absolutely tracked naru from the moment he heard her dog bark. What feral's reasoning was for tracking her is the only real mystery, and you can fill in that gap with your imagination. But nonetheless the movie shows us that feral is tracking her, absolutely.
Which, again, is entirely besides the point.
Quote from: SiL on Oct 27, 2022, 07:43:41 PMWhich, again, is entirely besides the point.
How is it besides the point? Lol it was hunting her. Tracking her. It's shown on screen. It is the point.
Quote from: PAS Spinelli on Oct 27, 2022, 03:24:54 AMI've seen the facebook comments and they are often made by old people or very insecure men, 80% of which haven't watched the movie
Quote from: ralfy on Oct 27, 2022, 02:45:48 AMAwful movie, with a Mary Sue character, lack of characterization for protagonists in general (unlike in the first, where one can sympathize with not only Dutch but with the rest of his crew), and a stupid predator.
Incase this is serious (I hope it isn't)
A Mary Sue is a perfect character who is perfect at everything and that everyone loves, Naru is disliked by the hunters in her Tribe, mocked and looked down upon by her family and her skills are flawed and she constantly f**ks up through the movie, so she can't be a Mary Sue.
Naru has way more characterization in this than Dutch had in the first movie (Dutch was the least developed character in that movie when you take in count how much screen time he had). Naru at the start is shown as cocky, confident and unskilled in the areas she wants to be skilled at the most, constantly failing to properly do the things she sets out to do, halfway through she starts adapting and improving, but still failing due to her own cockiness or lack or preparation, for instance, she constantly does things without thinking of the what will happen next, like attacking the bear or engaging in a fight with her own tribesmates. It's only AFTER she loses something dear to her that she properly plans out her actions and truly succeeds.
Feral isn't stupid, specially when compared to JH, CH, Fugitive and Wolf. He never does something downright stupid, but instead reckless because he is sure he will get away with it, he rushes at the Wolf and Bear because he knows he can kill them, he avoid using his own gear because he wants to have fun fighting them, the only times he gets surprised for rushing in is when the Trappers ambush him, and even then he quickly takes control of the situation and kills all of them.
She's a Mary Sue because she easily counters several grown men, is the star of the movie (any other protagonists are forgettable or are used as foils for her advancement, like Andolini and co., and even those she considers dear), in appearance reminds me more of a SoCal gal rather than a Native American who probably had life expectancy rates lower than 30 years, in mannerism and thought is very much a woke post-modern American, as she is cocky (with cute scenes of her and her dog trekking alone) until she gets into trouble, and so on.
In contrast, the characterization of Dutch is much better, especially when all that arrogance rots due to overconfidence. Meanwhile, he's not a Gary Sue as his fellow protagonists are very-well developed, and humorous dialogue is even added to allow viewers to sympathize with them, from the hotheaded Blain, his best friend Mac (two contrasting figures), to the brooding and stoic Billy, wise-cracking Hawkins, and so on, but it's the ending that attests to that, as in despair Dutch realizes that the only way to defeat the predator is to use low levels of technology, guile, and himself as bait.
Even the much-hated second
Predator movie still retained such character development.
But in this case, the star and only one that matters is Naru, and from the get-go the movie is filled with mostly spectacle (in contrast to movies like
Aliens, where the action takes off only in the latter half or third of the film). I'm not surprised that contemporary viewers did not see these issues in
Prey, because I'm guessing that they are seeing the older movies through the lenses of modern ones, which essentially involve cramming as much content as possible and making clear delineations between good and evil.
Finally, I think anyone should have expected this in
Prey, because probably like the
Aliens,
Mad Max, and other franchises, producers are essentially rebooting the franchise. That is, viewers can watch this movie without having seen the previous ones, and young viewers (the "sweet spot" for demographics) can appreciate such films if young people star in them as Mary Sues and Gary Stus. After that, I won't be surprised if they start remaking the older movies and refashioning them in the same way.
So she's a mary sue for being a better warrior than a bunch of fur trappers? That's such a dumb argument. Everything else said in your first paragraph is downright stupid so I won't bother to address it.
Dutch is not a Gary Stu because... the characters around him are developed? Everyone around Dutch loves him and he is good at everything, he is by definition a Gary Stu lmfao.
Oh wow, a movie with only 2 main characters only has them mattering, who would have seen that coming!
Trying to downplay people that disagree with you as "contemporary" is not a good look, maybe instead of blaming people for being in the present, blame yourself for not being able to leave the past.
Quote from: PAS Spinelli on Oct 28, 2022, 02:47:36 AMSo she's a mary sue for being a better warrior than a bunch of fur trappers? That's such a dumb argument. Everything else said in your first paragraph is downright stupid so I won't bother to address it.
Dutch is not a Gary Stu because... the characters around him are developed? Everyone around Dutch loves him and he is good at everything, he is by definition a Gary Stu lmfao.
Oh wow, a movie with only 2 main characters only has them mattering, who would have seen that coming!
Trying to downplay people that disagree with you as "contemporary" is not a good look, maybe instead of blaming people for being in the present, blame yourself for not being able to leave the past.
Let's not forget that JH's plasma shots bursts a hole in Mac's head, a hole in Blain's chest, blown Dillon's arm off, and into Poncho's head, but Dutch get's hit on the shoulder and it's just a flesh wound. If Naru gotten the Dutch treatment, she would have been called a mary sue into oblivion, but you don't see that gary stu shit on Dutch huh?
Ralfy's opinion is no different from every other bloke that walked in here, thinking they got something smart to say about how dumb the film is, none of ya got a difference in opinion. "Film is bad cuz girl" :laugh: Smooth brains, all of ya.
Quote from: Engineer on Oct 27, 2022, 09:00:59 PMHow is it besides the point?
The point is the attack on the bear being dumb or not, not whether it was following Naru or not.
Feral is dumb but incredibly strong. Naru is smart, but physically weaker. Feral survives situations because of his toughness, not because of any real skill or ability; Naru survives situations because of skill and ability, not because she's particularly tough.
The characters are contrasts of each other. Feral making dumb decisions that work out in his favour is pretty on point with the themes of the stories and characters.
Quote from: Mr.Turok on Oct 28, 2022, 04:58:16 AMLet's not forget that JH's plasma shots bursts a hole in Mac's head, a hole in Blain's chest, blown Dillon's arm off, and into Poncho's head, but Dutch get's hit on the shoulder and it's just a flesh wound.
He doesn't get shot; his gun does. His shoulder is hit by the shrapnel (it's described in the script and you can see it if you frame-by-frame the animation.)
Quote from: SiL on Oct 28, 2022, 05:04:25 AMQuote from: Engineer on Oct 27, 2022, 09:00:59 PMHow is it besides the point?
The point is the attack on the bear being dumb or not, not whether it was following Naru or not.
Feral is dumb but incredibly strong. Naru is smart, but physically weaker. Feral survives situations because of his toughness, not because of any real skill or ability; Naru survives situations because of skill and ability, not because she's particularly tough.
The characters are contrasts of each other. Feral making dumb decisions that work out in his favour is pretty on point with the themes of the stories and characters.
Quote from: Mr.Turok on Oct 28, 2022, 04:58:16 AMLet's not forget that JH's plasma shots bursts a hole in Mac's head, a hole in Blain's chest, blown Dillon's arm off, and into Poncho's head, but Dutch get's hit on the shoulder and it's just a flesh wound.
He doesn't get shot; his gun does. His shoulder is hit by the shrapnel (it's described in the script and you can see it if you frame-by-frame the animation.)
Why is it dumb that feral decided to fight a bear in CQC, but it's not dumb when any of the other predators in the past movies made equivalent decisions?
Quote from: Engineer on Oct 28, 2022, 05:19:04 AMWhy is it dumb that feral decided to fight a bear in CQC, but it's not dumb when any of the other predators in the past movies made equivalent decisions?
When did I say no other Predator did anything stupid ever?
Wolf does nothing
but stupid shit.
(I did have an earlier version of this post I revised because I remembered all of the dumb stuff that other Predators did -- but I don't see why that's relevant?)
Quote from: SiL on Oct 28, 2022, 05:23:14 AMThe Predators in past movies had hunted on Earth before and knew what they were dealing with. We can consider their risks calculated.
This is supposed to be Feral's first time on Earth and he throws hands with something almost twice his size he's never seen before.
There is a very clear difference.
First time on earth doesn't mean he's completely ignorant about the creatures here. You want a reasonable head-canon explanation? He had a mentor who came to earth before him and told him all about the bears lol
I really don't see any difference. I'll go back to city hunter again. He dropped into a train having no idea who or what was inside. Feral at least could see what he was about to go toe-to-toe with, But somehow he's still dumber than city hunter? Or dropping in on the Colombians, several of them, armed to the teeth with military grade weapons; clearly a more dangerous situation to just drop in on than facing off with a bear... doesn't matter how many times city hunter had been to earth, he still went into those situations haphazardly, and completely blind in the case of the train. Yet none of that was dumb? Why was city hunter so confident he'd win those fights?
That was my old reply but hey:
Quote from: Engineer on Oct 28, 2022, 05:34:25 AMI really don't see any difference. I'll go back to city hunter again. He dropped into a train having no idea who or what was inside.
I'd say he knew there were humans inside because he's been on Earth before and knows that dropping down on people makes them confused and ineffective. As he had demonstrated in the movie already and would do again.
If the characterisation of City Hunter was "He's never been to Earth before" then I would say he was as dumb as Feral, yes.
Quote from: SiL on Oct 28, 2022, 05:25:06 AMQuote from: Engineer on Oct 28, 2022, 05:19:04 AMWhy is it dumb that feral decided to fight a bear in CQC, but it's not dumb when any of the other predators in the past movies made equivalent decisions?
When did I say no other Predator did anything stupid ever?
Wolf does nothing but stupid shit.
(I did have an earlier version of this post I revised because I remembered all of the dumb stuff that other Predators did -- but I don't see why that's relevant?)
I'm not saying you ever said other predators never did anything dumb. But that seems to be your biggest gripe with this particular movie... that feral was dumb. But, his actions aren't any dumber than literally any other predator at some point in their respective films; do you have the same gripes about those films? If not, why?
And it's relevant because again, feral is no dumber than any of the others. So if you're ok with something like city hunter going into a room full of armed people blind, why is that ok but feral fighting a bear is not?
Quote from: SiL on Oct 28, 2022, 05:37:16 AMThat was my old reply but hey:
Quote from: Engineer on Oct 28, 2022, 05:34:25 AMI really don't see any difference. I'll go back to city hunter again. He dropped into a train having no idea who or what was inside.
I'd say he knew there were humans inside because he's been on Earth before and knows that dropping down on people makes them confused and ineffective. As he had demonstrated in the movie already and would do again.
If the characterisation of City Hunter was "He's never been to Earth before" then I would say he was as dumb as Feral, yes.
But he can't see what's inside before he drops in lol that's not tactical or smart at all no matter how much experience you have with humans lol
Quote from: Engineer on Oct 28, 2022, 05:40:15 AMBut that seems to be your biggest gripe with this particular movie... that feral was dumb.
No, my problem is that he comes across as Jason Voorhees with a cloaking device because of the totality of his characterisation, not any single thing.
QuoteBut, his actions aren't any dumber than literally any other predator at some point in their respective films; do you have the same gripes about those films?
Ever heard me talk about AvPR?
QuoteSo if you're ok with something like city hunter going into a room full of armed people blind, why is that ok but feral fighting a bear is not?
City Hunter jumping into rooms and hacking people to pieces is actually something I never particularly liked about the sequel. I prefer the original movie and the whole, y'know, hunting thing. The mass slaughter approach never really appealed.
Quote from: Engineer on Oct 28, 2022, 05:40:15 AMBut he can't see what's inside before he drops in lol that's not tactical or smart at all no matter how much experience you have with humans lol
He's actively hunting Harrigan's crew. If he knows they're in the subway he probably saw them -- and the other passengers -- get on board.
Quote from: SiL on Oct 28, 2022, 05:43:28 AMQuote from: Engineer on Oct 28, 2022, 05:40:15 AMBut that seems to be your biggest gripe with this particular movie... that feral was dumb.
No, my problem is that he comes across as Jason Voorhees with a cloaking device because of the totality of his characterisation, not any single thing.
QuoteBut, his actions aren't any dumber than literally any other predator at some point in their respective films; do you have the same gripes about those films?
Ever heard me talk about AvPR?
QuoteSo if you're ok with something like city hunter going into a room full of armed people blind, why is that ok but feral fighting a bear is not?
City Hunter jumping into rooms and hacking people to pieces is actually something I never particularly liked about the sequel. I prefer the original movie and the whole, y'know, hunting thing. The mass slaughter approach never really appealed.
Quote from: Engineer on Oct 28, 2022, 05:40:15 AMBut he can't see what's inside before he drops in lol that's not tactical or smart at all no matter how much experience you have with humans lol
He's actively hunting Harrigan's crew. If he knows they're in the subway he probably saw them -- and the other passengers -- get on board.
Knowing jerry and Leona are on the train? Yes. But he's still going in blind and has no idea what else is there lol
Nope. Never seen you talk about avpr but meh that's a shit movie all around and one I typically ignore anyway.
I prefer the original predator too. But JH still did some dumb things too. And mass slaughter, you just don't see it on screen (Jim hopper's entire team was strung up right there together after a nearby firefight shooting in all directions; sounds like JH just went in and mass slaughtered a bunch of people to me).
The predators, all of them, were basically Jason voorhees with a cloaking device. JH was personally my favorite... but feral did more, y' know, hunting, than CH and several of the others... the amount of hunting he did seemed pretty on par with JH to me in fact... definitely wasn't any dumber than the others either.
Quote from: Engineer on Oct 28, 2022, 06:00:04 AMKnowing jerry and Leona are on the train? Yes. But he's still going in blind and has no idea what else is there lol
Except all those civilians and gangbangers who probably got on at the same time.
QuoteThe predators, all of them, were basically Jason voorhees with a cloaking device.
Not in the least. Some of them from
Predators, maybe. Chopper, sure. Jungle Hunter, City Hunter, Scar -- shit, even Wolf, all showed more personality, emotion, vulnerability and brains than Jason. Even before he died Jason was a lumbering zombie of violent rage with not much else behind the mask (well, after the second movie).
Quote from: SiL on Oct 28, 2022, 06:07:41 AMQuote from: Engineer on Oct 28, 2022, 06:00:04 AMKnowing jerry and Leona are on the train? Yes. But he's still going in blind and has no idea what else is there lol
Except all those civilians and gangbangers who probably got on at the same time.
QuoteThe predators, all of them, were basically Jason voorhees with a cloaking device.
Not in the least. Some of them from Predators, maybe. Chopper, sure. Jungle Hunter, City Hunter, Scar -- shit, even Wolf, all showed more personality, emotion, vulnerability and brains than Jason. Even before he died Jason was a lumbering zombie of violent rage with not much else behind the mask (well, after the second movie).
Yea he knew about everyone else getting on the train at the same time but still clueless about who or what was already on the train. Still blind; still dumb and not tactical at all. Just running in to slaughter a bunch of unsuspecting people, very Jason-like imo
So, because you didn't like the characterization of feral you think he's got no personality? Weird. I thought he had more personality than we've seen in a predator since P2, because he did spend more time hunting... well, those super preds did a fair amount of hunting too, but feral still sticks out to me over them...
Quote from: Engineer on Oct 28, 2022, 06:18:43 AMSo, because you didn't like the characterization of feral you think he's got no personality?
I said "more" personality. Jason has a bit of personality depending on the film -- not a whole lot, but some. More importantly, though, I also mentioned more things than just "personality".
I really
really must stress; it's
everything together. If we look at any single thing in isolation, there's nothing Feral does that other Predators don't. I know that very well. There's no argument there.
But that's missing the forest for the trees.
City Hunter is
very different to Jungle Hunter. Totally different attack styles. New gadgets. Different vibe. Different face, different colouration, even a different voice.
But he still feels like a Predator. There's enough other returning elements -- thanks to returning writers, lead actors, and creature team -- to anchor him as that character. The netting is there, the aesthetic is there, the facial structure is there, etc. etc.
Even Wolf, for all of his many, many shortcomings, feels very much like a Predator. An inept, incompetent one, but still.
I've said it before; there's a lot of leeway with Predators. They're all individuals. But I feel Trachtenberg tweaked too many things at the one time when creating his. It's a death of a thousand cuts; no single thing
really ruins it, but the whole doesn't mesh together like it should for me.
Quote from: SiL on Oct 28, 2022, 07:14:18 AMQuote from: Engineer on Oct 28, 2022, 06:18:43 AMSo, because you didn't like the characterization of feral you think he's got no personality?
I said "more" personality. Jason has a bit of personality depending on the film -- not a whole lot, but some. More importantly, though, I also mentioned more things than just "personality".
I really really must stress; it's everything together. If we look at any single thing in isolation, there's nothing Feral does that other Predators don't. I know that very well. There's no argument there.
But that's missing the forest for the trees.
City Hunter is very different to Jungle Hunter. Totally different attack styles. New gadgets. Different vibe. Different face, different colouration, even a different voice.
But he still feels like a Predator. There's enough other returning elements -- thanks to returning writers, lead actors, and creature team -- to anchor him as that character. The netting is there, the aesthetic is there, the facial structure is there, etc. etc.
Even Wolf, for all of his many, many shortcomings, feels very much like a Predator. An inept, incompetent one, but still.
I've said it before; there's a lot of leeway with Predators. They're all individuals. But I feel Trachtenberg tweaked too many things at the one time when creating his. It's a death of a thousand cuts; no single thing really ruins it, but the whole doesn't mesh together like it should for me.
Well, for someone stressing that it's "everything together" now, ya sure did seem to zero in on the bear fight pretty specifically lol
And sure, feral is different from the other preds in a lot of ways, which is exactly why he has more personality (and individuality) than most of the rest. Or, at the very least, his personality and other characteristics were unique enough to make him stand out from the crowd, so to speak. But he was still recognizable as a predator.
(And sorry, but agree to disagree on wolf lol I probably feel the same way about wolf and the other AVP preds as you do about feral).
Quote from: Engineer on Oct 28, 2022, 07:25:46 AMWell, for someone stressing that it's "everything together" now, ya sure did seem to zero in on the bear fight pretty specifically lol
Because that was a specific point for a specific conversation; I never said that was the entirety of what I thought of the movie.
Quote from: SiL on Oct 28, 2022, 07:28:01 AMQuote from: Engineer on Oct 28, 2022, 07:25:46 AMWell, for someone stressing that it's "everything together" now, ya sure did seem to zero in on the bear fight pretty specifically lol
Because that was a specific point for a specific conversation; I never said that was the entirety of what I thought of the movie.
Fair, and the rebuttal still being that, that specific moment wasn't any dumber or smarter than a dozen other moments we've seen with a dozen other predators.
The original rebuttal was that he wasn't dumb.
He was. And that's fine. Characters can be dumb. Villains can be dumb.
If his particular brand of dumbness bothers people more than other comparable brands of dumbness, though, it usually means that other things aren't working for them about the film.
We're all willing to overlook "problems" if other things appeal to us and make what we don't like seem minor in comparison. The number of people who think Wolf is the ultimate badass is testament to that.
It's when we don't accept those problems that we need to step back and look at the broader picture to ask why.
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Me trying to find a good spot to jump into the conversation, but backing out at the last second.
Great discussion about Prey, fam, keep it up!
Am I the only one who understands with the name Feral has, he's just the type of Predator that is willing to go in, balls out, in combat compared to the stealthier tactics some of his counterparts had used? Things that we seen in regular human characters in other media, either hero or villainous characters. Keeping on the theme of brute force vs calculating intelligence, what is true strength?
We all know that real life predators never jump in to kill/fight their prey :D
Quote from: Mr.Turok on Oct 28, 2022, 04:20:28 PMAm I the only one who understands with the name Feral has, he's just the type of Predator that is willing to go in, balls out, in combat compared to the stealthier tactics some of his counterparts had used? Things that we seen in regular human characters in other media, either hero or villainous characters. Keeping on the theme of brute force vs calculating intelligence, what is true strength?
I'm pretty sure everyone in the conversation understands that.
QuoteThe original rebuttal was that he wasn't dumb.
No no, the original rebuttal was that the specific moment of when he fought the bear wasn't any dumber than a ton of other moments we've seen. But, I'll agree with this conclusion too; no, feral wasn't dumb even though a lot of people seem to think he was... (i.e., he didn't forget how his weapons worked).
Unless you're talking about a much earlier rebuttal. But just to clarify, I was only responding to the remarks about that specific moment at this time.
QuoteIf his particular brand of dumbness bothers people more than other comparable brands of dumbness, though, it usually means that other things aren't working for them about the film.
This right here is EXACTLY where I was trying to get you to. I don't think feral is dumb; not at all, but he has moments that may appear so. All of the predators do, and I mean, realistically, even the most intelligent/experienced fighters/warriors/etc make mistakes in the heat of battle and that doesn't just automatically make them dumb all around. So, feral having a moment that ultimately didn't work for you... Is it really that you think he's dumber than other predators we've seen? Or is there really some other reason it's just not working for you? (Sounds to me like you don't like his characterization, which is fine; I love his characterization... just difference in tastes I suppose...)
The only thing that reads as dumb to me with Feral was and still is the bolt gun given it only ever worked once and only did because the guy was stationary. It's tracking feature otherwise never works as intended and I have no idea why he continued to use it other than being the only other ranged weapon he brought. It's just this oddly designed weapon that's a massive liability to use. Like nothing about this weapon is ever depicted as useful and I have no idea why he has it.
That being said if there was ever a sequel that'd be good setup for the plasma pistol. Maybe Greyback has a similar pistol to the bolt gun, Naru thinks the same trick will work twice and it turns out the plasma pistol is literally just a space gun. No bullshit tracking feature, it just fires. Come to think of it that'd probably be the explanation for where his mask went. Naru thinks she can reflect the bolt and it blows up his mask while knocking her on her ass. Could be a funny scene. So on some level I'd accept it if it played into Greyback down the line.
https://twitter.com/steveasbell/status/1596174648558948352
"Working on several things."
several....things.... :o
That was the feeling RidgeTop and I got after we spoke to Dan - that there was something new going off with him.
listening to the interview it definitely felt like something was going on.
https://twitter.com/DDNumeroUno/status/1599529420699885568
My father who was HUGE into all things Indians in his youth (so you can imagine that his opinion holds some real weight for me) finally watched Prey.
Spoiler
He liked it, here's his mini-review: "Indians are brilliant, Predator is scary". For me, that's the best review that movie could've got
QUICK UPDATE: Dad said he would give it 8 out of 10
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made.... for television....
Think they need to rename that category. ::) But glad to see Prey continuing to get the recognition.
Critics Choice Awards Nominee for best movie made for theaters, but Disney would rather deny audiences the theatrical release, hoping to boost Hulu subscriptions, and prevent competitors from making money off the Predator franchise.
Too long? ;D
CavityColors PREY merch coming in 2023...https://twitter.com/CAVITYCOLORS/status/1607172460071342082 (https://twitter.com/CAVITYCOLORS/status/1607172460071342082)
EDIT- PREY and ALIEN vs PREDATOR collections confirmed for 2023...
https://twitter.com/CAVITYCOLORS/status/1607437641397452802 (https://twitter.com/CAVITYCOLORS/status/1607437641397452802)
The fact that the Alien vs Predator logo there is one of the older, 90's variants makes me hopeful that going forward Disney have decided to ditch the "AVP" logo the first movie introduced for any and all AVP-related stuff going forward.
Glad to see Prey finally getting more merch. I've been pretty into Cavity Colors stuff and am stoked for both Prey and an AVP line.
Quote from: Kailem on Dec 26, 2022, 08:18:45 PMThe fact that the Alien vs Predator logo there is one of the older, 90's variants makes me hopeful that going forward Disney have decided to ditch the "AVP" logo the first movie introduced for any and all AVP-related stuff going forward.
The two AVP releases under the 20th Century Studios banner have kept it, with the main change being the title of: Aliens vs. Predators.
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Its continued use was mainly with Dark Horse. Granted the classic style logo never really went away, it was still used in media after the AVP films:
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No skin off my back either way, I've always dug both. I think what Marvel does with the AVP branding could be an indicator of the future standard.
Yeah I think whatever Marvel goes with will likely be what sticks going forward, since it feels like that's going to be the first really "high profile" AVP release post-buyout.
Personally I hope they go retro as I've always thought that AVP 2004 logo was butt cheeks.
Quote from: Kailem on Dec 27, 2022, 04:05:55 PMYeah I think whatever Marvel goes with will likely be what sticks going forward, since it feels like that's going to be the first really "high profile" AVP release post-buyout.
Personally I hope they go retro as I've always thought that AVP 2004 logo was butt cheeks.
I'm hoping they go with the retro logo too. There's just something exciting about seeing the logos of the respective franchises against each other like that.
I was thinking "they let him keep one!?"
Quote from: Corporal Hicks on Dec 28, 2022, 09:07:11 AMQuote from: Kailem on Dec 27, 2022, 04:05:55 PMYeah I think whatever Marvel goes with will likely be what sticks going forward, since it feels like that's going to be the first really "high profile" AVP release post-buyout.
Personally I hope they go retro as I've always thought that AVP 2004 logo was butt cheeks.
I'm hoping they go with the retro logo too. There's just something exciting about seeing the logos of the respective franchises against each other like that.
Yep. It's a crossover, embrace it! Don't try to act as though it's its own individual, separate thing (even though they did for franchising rights). The retro logo really made it feel more epic that you had these two big series battling it out against each other, and just
felt way more AVP to me than the 2004 logo did.
Taabe was handling Feral like a boss! His movement and tactics had the young Pred scared! What a great fight scene!
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The PREY sound team nominated for their guild's award. Beyond thrilled. Everyone so talented, for sure, and clever- but also great humans and boy did we have FUN doing it!! @sounddroid
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Incredible concept artist @chaliyart made these for us super early on. Was a constant struggle to try to capture how this art felt.
Quote from: ace3g on Jan 09, 2023, 11:27:02 PMQuotedannytrs
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Incredible concept artist @chaliyart made these for us super early on. Was a constant struggle to try to capture how this art felt.
Here's the link to the full copies on ArtStation: https://www.artstation.com/artwork/b5EezG
Keep those awards coming! Though I guess that's just a nomination?
Yeah, just nominations.
https://twitter.com/randcpmk/status/1614811639991394304
Doesn't look like Prey took anything home. Sorry to hear that for the cast & crew. They deserved the nominations.
https://twitter.com/Variety/status/1614398060536205314
Yeh, they've totally talked about something. I've actually been thinking about this for a minute and considering how Dan initially had wanted to market PREY, he'll probably get more of a say with a second film after the success of the first, we may not get official word about a sequel until after photography and maybe even the first teaser. Unless the trades announce it when they're not supposed to, again.
Ha, so you think Dan might try to pull off the whole "secret Predator movie" with the sequel ? I would be interested to see how he would go around doing it
Its a possibility for sure with how the recent wave of hollywood films have been going. Most likely its going to be streaming again. Any word on the Prey Blu Ray release?
Naru vs Elder pred
I really enjoyed Prey, but it's time to move on from that timeline.
I'm definitely up for a sequel! :) Out of interest, who did Amber lose out to for Best Actress in a Movie Made for Television?
I would love to see her meet Greyback.
They should've handled that at the end of Prey. She could've said "take it".
Though it'd be curious if they explored the set up of the Elder Predator GreyBack's encounter with Naru obtaining Raphael's flintlock filling the back story of Predator 2 but annoyingly its more than likely it'll fall into development hell before they decide to REBOOT AGAIN, which would be a shame since how much a success Prey was. It'd be neat to return with Naru in another entry since the Predator movies for the most part never follow the same protagonist in the sequel, the movies are episodic in nature (though AvP Requiem technically payed off the PredAlien set up at the end of the previous film).
But I'd be up for a follow up to Prey or even other various historically set genre bending Predator projects, here's to a hopeful future.
Quote from: Clubroot on Jan 17, 2023, 03:13:36 PMIts a possibility for sure with how the recent wave of hollywood films have been going. Most likely its going to be streaming again. Any word on the Prey Blu Ray release?
Doubtful we'll get a blu-ray or 4K release. And even if it's a possibility, it would all depend on the Hulu exclusive rights and whether it has an expiration date.
Quote from: Master Chief on Jan 17, 2023, 08:23:58 PMThey should've handled that at the end of Prey. She could've said "take it".
Issue is that Greyback knows how to speak that phrase in english while Naru speaks Comanche throughout the film (its only in english for convenience sake, remember?)
So going with that, unless they pull a universal translator on us as The Predator did to my ire, must have been a point in time where she learned it from an englishman or another european person that can speak english and said it to Greyback in at least one encounter. Its all guesswork here to be honest, so I have no idea how much water my thought bucket is actually holding here.
I loved Prey. I felt that Amber and the rest of the cast were amazing and did the Predator justice. I'm all for a Prey sequel, just not exactly centered around Naru. I'd love LOVE to see a samurai piece. Perhaps start with Nauru's tribe then shift focus to feudal Japan. The samurai were prominent from 1100s to the 1800s. "It can be done!"
I've been maintaining for a while now that I'd love to see a sequel where Naru ends up in Japan and meets the Onna-Bugeisha (female samurai).
The key is how they will explore the Naru character further. In some sense, her character arc was complete in Prey. So how they will continue with the Naru character would be an interesting challenge. And obviously, as mentioned already here, the storyline will have to feature Greyback somehow.
Quote from: Cougerboy on Jan 21, 2023, 01:37:58 AMThe key is how they will explore the Naru character further. In some sense, her character arc was complete in Prey. So how they will continue with the Naru character would be an interesting challenge. And obviously, as mentioned already here, the storyline will have to feature Greyback somehow.
I would love to see her character development as an experienced hunter showing her tribe the ropes of new fighting and hunting tactics. Also, I wanted to see some more interesting character relationships with future new characters, have some fun chemistry ya know? Also feeling the loss of a her brother haunting her, wondering how things might be different and how that will affect her decision making in protecting her tribe, seeing that she is the new War Chief after all. Also, I think being hunted by a alien from outerspace would kind of mess with her mind a bit, ya know? There are ways to go about it and I hope it's more complex, which the sequel should no longer fear after keeping it pure and simple, it can take two steps forward into something new.
One place you could go with any sequel is the death of her brother haunting her and her realizing there's more. That Naru would become far more protective given the threat they face. And that would be in addition to her new role where she's expected to hunt and fight. And that could lead to conflict, she knows how a Predator operates, so her not fighting back to let it ignore them makes sense. However to those who feel superior or just don't know she might come off as cowardly.
That could then lead to Greyback as given when the ships show up, Greyback probably arrived shortly thereafter. Greyback to parallel Naru might be new to the role himself as Elder. And he's probably seen his fair share of hunters die young which is also something you can illustrate with Feral. Given how shortly the ships arrive after Feral's death, Grayback might take the death similar to how Naru did for Tabbe. We have seen Wolf mourn Bull, but Grayback might've actually known Feral. I could imagine Grayback would be looking for whatever Naru took from Feral's body and be out for revenge. Ultimately I could see the two parting ways amicably because they not only have to survive but both would be going through similar journeys at this point in their lives. They'd see a lot of themselves in each other and go the unusual route of gaining mutual respect (respect since I don't see the movies killing a protagonist and Grayback has to survive).
I'd be fine with her fate being ambiguous for a sequel. Not open ended, but that whether Grayback killed her or not would allow Naru to take on a mythology and play with the EU a bit since she could become an in-universe legend allowing her some influence beyond her character's lifespan.
Dear God haven't they shit on this franchise enough?
I really wish they apply the lessons learned from the success of Prey to a new setting, instead of trying to create a "more of the same" direct sequel.
Hi. No please no sequel. Yes it's definitely time to move on from that timeline. Please no more crap like that. Please after all this time, I would like to see a reel predator like it was in the good old time when reel directors made reel good movies Again , please ; no sequel to this movie. Thanks not to make it. Thank you very much to forget it.
Regards
After Prey I trust DT to make a great follow-up regardless of the details. He can do what he wants.
Quote from: 426Buddy on Jan 23, 2023, 02:14:16 PMAfter Prey I trust DT to make a great follow-up regardless of the details. He can do what he wants.
Best take.
I don't really want direct sequels in this franchise, but I'm sure Trachtenberg will come up with something interesting.
Honestly, if anyone doesn't want direct sequels, there shouldn't be any open ended endings or anything like that at all because you know people will want more and you'll never hear the end of it :laugh:
Just because it hasn't been done before doesn't mean we shouldn't have any. I've also been a bit disappointed we never got a continuation of Predators, or that we didn't see Harrigan or Dutch return (it's why I was so excited for his return in Hunting Grounds). I'd be quite happy to see a continuation of Prey.
But I wouldn't turn my nose up at Dan doing something entirely new as well.
Friday the 13th threw a recurring protagonist in at the 4th entry (Tommy Jarvis, 4-6), so it's not even unprecedented to switch from connected-but-individual entries to direct sequels late in a franchise's history.
Interesting...I wonder what the title would be lol.
Prey 2
Prey 2: Eat, Prey, Love
I'll see myself out.
Prey 2: The Gods
I'm really shocked no one has suggested "preys" yet
Quote from: Engineer on Jan 27, 2023, 05:00:15 PMI'm really shocked no one has suggested "preys" yet
Preys
i preyd all night
Prey$
Prey 2: Electric Boogaloo
The should make a prequel to Prey and call it Prey: The Predquel
Pray That This One is Better
You wish!
Preydator
Preyminator
Quote from: Kradan on Jan 27, 2023, 10:27:54 PMThe should make a prequel
Preydecessor
time to go home :(
Prey Takes Manhattan
Preys
PreyCubed
Quote from: Kradan on Jan 27, 2023, 10:27:54 PMThe should make a Crossover with Star Trek
Preydata
Prey: The Final Frontier
"Resistance is Prey."
- Old German proverb
Prey$
Preys to DVD
Quote from: Jason Todd Voorhees on Jan 26, 2023, 10:57:44 PMInteresting...I wonder what the title would be lol.
Pray ADI comes back with a better design²
Edit: Don't hate me ;D👉👈 🙈
Quote from: Immortan Jonesy on Jan 28, 2023, 04:10:11 AMQuote from: Jason Todd Voorhees on Jan 26, 2023, 10:57:44 PMInteresting...I wonder what the title would be lol.
Pray ADI comes back with a better design²
Edit: Don't hate me ;D👉👈 🙈
I really hope they don't have that broken mandible look on Greyback. Imagine ruining that good looking mug from Predator 2. :'(
Quote from: Mr.Turok on Jan 30, 2023, 06:08:13 AMQuote from: Immortan Jonesy on Jan 28, 2023, 04:10:11 AMQuote from: Jason Todd Voorhees on Jan 26, 2023, 10:57:44 PMInteresting...I wonder what the title would be lol.
Pray ADI comes back with a better design²
Edit: Don't hate me ;D👉👈 🙈
I really hope they don't have that broken mandible look on Greyback. Imagine ruining that good looking mug from Predator 2. :'(
I think they would try to make him look the same, besides the mandibles not moving the same as Stan Winston's Predators I haven't really had a problem with ADI's effect work, I thought they where great on Alien resurrection and even though people hated the newborn (I liked it) It was good from an effects only standpoint. I Like its design even though it was just a slimy tailless Pumpkinhead with a vaginis.
thought this was interesting, it likely won't affect anything, but still interesting.
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2023-02-03/disney-explores-the-sale-of-more-films-tv-series-to-rivals?leadSource=uverify%20wall (https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2023-02-03/disney-explores-the-sale-of-more-films-tv-series-to-rivals?leadSource=uverify%20wall)
https://twitter.com/pixologic/status/1621238336328241155
Again, we don't know if anything will happen with this, but; when asked if Disney would buy out Comcast's 33% stake in HULU Bob Iger has said everything is on the table including a potential sale of HULU itself.
https://variety.com/2023/digital/news/disney-iger-potential-hulu-sale-comcast-1235518026/ (https://variety.com/2023/digital/news/disney-iger-potential-hulu-sale-comcast-1235518026/)
Sounds like PREY's soundtrack is getting a vinyl release from Mondo. I'll be scooping this one up for sure.
https://twitter.com/hauntedmeg/status/1627398512328450056?s=46&t=rkpZQ_W7T5QpvvoJvKbP1Q
OMG finally! I was anxious it wouldn't get some kind of physical release and now we're getting a vinyl. F*cking happy.
Quote from: Mike's Monsters on Feb 20, 2023, 08:07:09 PMSounds like PREY's soundtrack is getting a vinyl release from Mondo. I'll be scooping this one up for sure.
https://twitter.com/hauntedmeg/status/1627398512328450056?s=46&t=rkpZQ_W7T5QpvvoJvKbP1Q
Kinda hilarious, we can own the f**king score, but not the film.
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For Outstanding Achievement in Sound Editing – Non-Theatrical Feature, congratulations to the team from Prey! #MPSE #GoldenReels #Prey
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Horror convention, Texas Frightmare Weekend announced that Amber Midthunder will be making an appearance alongside previously announced co-stars Dakota Beavers and Dane DiLiegro.
They'll all have solo-photo options, but they also announced a group photo option along with the announcement for Midthunder!
This is a great addition to an already stacked lineup for Texas Frightmare! I was already really wanting to go, but now I definitely want to!
Broad ranging interview with Amber covering her career, at one point she discusses her anxiety over being cast in PREY.
https://www.teenvogue.com/story/new-hollywood-amber-midthunder-interview-2023 (https://www.teenvogue.com/story/new-hollywood-amber-midthunder-interview-2023)
Rewatching Legion at the minute for my Amber Midthunder (Prey) and Noah Hawley (Alien) fix currently.
Neither of which we will probably ever see on 4K.
A bit worried that there has been no info on the potential sequel.
I'm not worried, it's pretty clear at this point that something is happening, and we're still not even a year after the release of PREY. My honest bet is that we'll get announcements for a physical release for PREY and word of a follow up before the end of this year.
https://twitter.com/mcstuntman/status/1643451846110113792
I'm still thinking about Dan Trachtenberg saying he would not comment on what's happening with the red ligths in the distance that distract Naru when she's fighting the mountain lion.
That seems like a very precise and particular aspect of the movie to not talk about. Why? What could it be? What's so important about it?
For a time I thought it had to do with the red glow Feral's biomask was meant to have in the movie, but even though it was discarded I don't believe for a second his mask would have illuminate that much of the forest.
Quote from: Preydator on Apr 30, 2023, 11:29:58 PMI'm still thinking about Dan Trachtenberg saying he would not comment on what's happening with the red ligths in the distance that distract Naru when she's fighting the mountain lion.
That seems like a very precise and particular aspect of the movie to not talk about. Why? What could it be? What's so important about it?
For a time I thought it had to do with the red glow Feral's biomask was meant to have in the movie, but even though it was discarded I don't believe for a second his mask would have illuminate that much of the forest.
I still see this moment as Feral using the floating wrist mines he used to clear out the trappers during the big battle while Taabe and Naru were captured. Shows that the trappers had dealt with Feral before and how they knew about him.
NECA did well with Feral. The color is perfectly matched.
Quote from: Master Chief on May 04, 2023, 03:40:59 PMNECA did well with Feral. The color is perfectly matched.
I agree! It think it looks great, and I'm impressed with how true the sculpt looks to the newly designed facial features of this desert-dwelling Predator.
I'm trying really hard to avoid going down the action-figure-collecting rabbit hole, but this new Feral Predator figure is making that very difficult. 😅
Disney plus is expected to merge with Hulu content by the end of the year. So this year we can probably expect to find Prey on Disney plus.
Given streaming rights might be all over the place I don't think Predator would get it's own section but it'll be nice not having to use two apps.
It is already on Disney plus in the United Kingdom, in the Star section, so I crave a physical release.
Quote from: BlueMarsalis79 on May 11, 2023, 11:44:48 AMIt is already on Disney plus in the United Kingdom, in the Star section, so I crave a physical release.
Seriously. I want that 4K UHD copy in hand.
Quote from: BlueMarsalis79 on May 11, 2023, 11:44:48 AMIt is already on Disney plus in the United Kingdom, in the Star section, so I crave a physical release.
Yea that bit of news is specific to those of us in the US with Hulu.
Apparently Disney plus/ Hulu is following the likes of Netflix and removing TV and films from its library. No word on Prey yet from what Ive seen
https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/deadline.com/2023/05/disney-remove-series-streaming-disney-plus-hulu-big-shot-willow-y-dollface-turner-hooch-pistol-1235372512/amp/
I really can't wait for this streaming only, no other way to own shit bubble to pop.
Maybe the strikes will actually do the home media market a favour.
I was actually hoping to see PREY on that list of movies being removed from Disney+/Hulu.
Mostly because a lot of the titles that HBO just dropped are ending up on VOD.
Not only would it give us a chance to own the movie (at least digitally, so we can have all the movies in one place) it definitely increases the odds of a physical release.
Hopefully one day soon.
Quote from: BISHOP 93 on May 19, 2023, 02:44:44 PMApparently Disney plus/ Hulu is following the likes of Netflix and removing TV and films from its library. No word on Prey yet from what Ive seen
https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/deadline.com/2023/05/disney-remove-series-streaming-disney-plus-hulu-big-shot-willow-y-dollface-turner-hooch-pistol-1235372512/amp/
https://twitter.com/cavitycolors/status/1661187695165558785?s=46&t=_UkEryu2c2UmLOQcQ5K4SA
Cavity Colors is showing off some Prey merch tomorrow. With the vinyl and this, maybe we can expect a physical home release of the film itself.
https://twitter.com/JoeyMagidson/status/1660711446957654017
https://twitter.com/avpgalaxy/status/1662031539931344901
https://twitter.com/cavitycolors/status/1663256797166043159?s=46&t=_UkEryu2c2UmLOQcQ5K4SA
Posted in the Cavity Colors merch thread as well.
They look AMAZING! :o
Now since they probably won't ship outside the US/Canada due to "licensing restrictions", I just have to find a way to get them. I really want to support anything Prey related.
https://twitter.com/DEADLINE/status/1663943374465040385
Never hated the new face design but it's definitely grown on me more and more.
I still don't like it. :laugh: But I Goddamn love the mask. So much.
The more I see the face the more I hate it.
Love the mask.
Love the masked version.
I still don't like the face but I prefer the practical version. It doesn't totally work for me but it definitely looks better than the CGI puppet.
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Just hope it gets a release in due course.
Are you talking about a physical release? Yes, I hope so as well. That may all depend on how long Hulu has those exclusive streaming rights to it. Could be one year, could be several. Also boils down to whether Iger feels physical media is worth spending money on. Disney already is notorious for vaulting or not releasing their big properties on disc. Time will tell, but the worst part is not having a definitive answer.
Quote from: BlueMarsalis79 on Jun 19, 2023, 04:02:36 AMJust hope it gets a release in due course.
https://twitter.com/AwardsDailyTV/status/1671269338685542400
That's perfect lol
I wonder why he didn't use Feral's face on the shirt. :P
Hot Toys Feral inbound.
https://twitter.com/hottoysofficial/status/1681267645088251905?s=46&t=_UkEryu2c2UmLOQcQ5K4SA
https://twitter.com/Cakes_Comics/status/1687853525366116352
Quote from: Mike's Monsters on Jul 18, 2023, 06:51:19 PMHot Toys Feral inbound.
https://twitter.com/hottoysofficial/status/1681267645088251905?s=46&t=_UkEryu2c2UmLOQcQ5K4SA
https://twitter.com/AndrewBustillo6/status/1684674239272792067
Beating a dead horse again, but man....I still think the face was way too different for a Predator look. I get the subspecies idea but even then, the creatures in question never really look that different from one another. Bengal Tigers and Siberian Tigers are apart from one another in some ways like size and power but they aren't totally different from one another as they both are similar enough to be that, a tiger. EX: have the same coloration and pattern, ect.
(https://i.pinimg.com/564x/63/ff/1f/63ff1fb6548a7c351425a8c05ffd06e3.jpg)
The fan art reimagined piece does the concept better I feel.
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Ok
Now do a comparison of other earthly creatures.
Snakes
Crocodiles
Various arthropods
Sharks
Etc.
while some creatures look very similar all around, you can get others with extraordinary variety in morphology. A great example imo would be a Caiman vs. a Gharial... both crocodilians but they look pretty different in the face.
Or a hammerhead shark vs. a great white vs. a nurse shark
All 3 pretty different.
Quote from: Engineer on Aug 06, 2023, 03:09:50 AMOk
Now do a comparison of other earthly creatures.
Snakes
Crocodiles
Various arthropods
Sharks
Etc.
while some creatures look very similar all around, you can get others with extraordinary variety in morphology. A great example imo would be a Caiman vs. a Gharial... both crocodilians but they look pretty different in the face.
Or a hammerhead shark vs. a great white vs. a nurse shark
All 3 pretty different.
Easy. These examples are not subspecies but a separate species. The Feral Predator in Prey is said to be a subspecies of the usual Predator run. It's why I used the Tigers as an example of subspecies and not separate species like a Mako Shark and a Hammerhead Shark. Going by the definition of subspecies:
Quotesubspecies
noun
A category in biological classification that ranks immediately below a species and designates a population of a particular geographic region genetically distinguishable from other such populations of the same species and capable of interbreeding successfully with them where its range overlaps theirs.
https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/subspecies
Another example: Alligators and Crocodiles are Crocodylidae but they are not a subspecies of one another, rather a separate species.
Quote from: Mr.Turok on Aug 06, 2023, 06:14:53 AMQuote from: Engineer on Aug 06, 2023, 03:09:50 AMOk
Now do a comparison of other earthly creatures.
Snakes
Crocodiles
Various arthropods
Sharks
Etc.
while some creatures look very similar all around, you can get others with extraordinary variety in morphology. A great example imo would be a Caiman vs. a Gharial... both crocodilians but they look pretty different in the face.
Or a hammerhead shark vs. a great white vs. a nurse shark
All 3 pretty different.
Easy. These examples are not subspecies but a separate species. The Feral Predator in Prey is said to be a subspecies of the usual Predator run. It's why I used the Tigers as an example of subspecies and not separate species like a Mako Shark and a Hammerhead Shark. Going by the definition of subspecies:
Quotesubspecies
noun
A category in biological classification that ranks immediately below a species and designates a population of a particular geographic region genetically distinguishable from other such populations of the same species and capable of interbreeding successfully with them where its range overlaps theirs.
https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/subspecies
Ok then take dog breeds. Dogs overall are a subspecies of wolves. Yet, even among dogs you have a plethora of variation. Pugs, German shepherds, beagles, blood hounds, Pitt bulls, boxers, etc. you couldn't have a starker difference between a pug and a shepherd, yet, they're within the same subspecies.
I don't have an issue with the level of variation, but after having it earnestly sit with me for a while I just don't feel it's a particularly great execution, I think as often the case with ADI's Predators the initial concepts put the practical piece to shame.
(https://www.avpgalaxy.net/wordpress/wp-content/webp-express/webp-images/doc-root/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2022/09/eppinette-06-10-560x700.jpg.webp)
I think this looks way more elegant and much more cunning than the final result honestly.
That looks just as shit as the final version.
And given the face is CGI in the final movie, blaming ADI is truly flogging a dead horse. If thee production wanted it to end up looking like that concept they could've when they redid the whole thing.
But they didn't, so they didn't.
I thought you might say that. It categorically looks much better to me because of the proportions and particularly having much more of a chin and the top of the head not sloping back as drastically.
It is not flogging a dead horse though because it is a pattern of behaviour from ADI dating back as far as AVP with their Predators, their concepts always look much better before they implement their animatronics, and the CGI model does not stray that far from the practical. It is just "enhanced" (if you can call it that) as Dan Trachtenberg once put it.
It is more of a should have statement I am making because yes they obviously could have changed it entirely in CGI.
Quote from: Engineer on Aug 06, 2023, 06:20:58 AMOk then take dog breeds. Dogs overall are a subspecies of wolves. Yet, even among dogs you have a plethora of variation. Pugs, German shepherds, beagles, blood hounds, Pitt bulls, boxers, etc. you couldn't have a starker difference between a pug and a shepherd, yet, they're within the same subspecies.
Problem with this example again is that dog breeds do not fit the criteria of subspecies. This means that dog breeds differ drastically in their appearance and other characteristics, while most of their genomes are still very much alike. Dogs are domesticated wolves shaped by human intervention for over tens of thousands of years while these two Predator lines have none of that. It's why Homo Sapiens and Neanderthals are under the same Homo Genus, but Homo (Humans) and Pan(Chimps) are two different species all together, but all under the Hominidae Family.
Granted there is something to be said of the recent PHG lore where the Amengi has captured the Hish and did selective breed and experimentation on them to produce the Predators we know today but it's been made clear that Feral's kind are a subspecies so I have no idea how his kind fits into all of this.
Which is why going by the concept art and the fan art, one looks to appear more menacing with the more separated eyes, brows brought more down and cross to give a more angrier look, mandibles tucked back even more into the face to give almost a slasher smile as an attempt to be different of the "standard" design, the whole "bigger and more menacing" trope we seen redesigning monsters in films these days.
The fan art precisely targets the subspecies idea where they take the baseline idea and actually putting in the subspecies concept of keeping the more inflated head for better heat detection, thicker jaws
and mandibles for a more powerful bone crushing bite force, however the facial features still keep in the spirit of the standard Predator face to translate better that it's still indeed the already menacing Predator with the added details to show that this type is more specialized for a certain role.
They keep trying to reinvent the wheel instead of looking at the different type of wheels that is used for a different type of job. That's why Predator and Predator 2 is superior at showing the concept of same idea but different format. Both JH and CH are Predators but their details make them unique such as the coloration, armor, weapons, and tactics. CH's mandibles have more fangs, a slightly bigger forehead and more colorful pattern than JH but it's not that drastically different. Predator Hunting Grounds displays this too with different skin types, armor designs and Predator facial features that simply have either more fangs, face spines, facial scarring, and age. Work on the finer details rather then start from scratch completely, the base is perfect as it is.
Quote from: Mr.Turok on Aug 06, 2023, 08:58:37 PMQuote from: Engineer on Aug 06, 2023, 06:20:58 AMOk then take dog breeds. Dogs overall are a subspecies of wolves. Yet, even among dogs you have a plethora of variation. Pugs, German shepherds, beagles, blood hounds, Pitt bulls, boxers, etc. you couldn't have a starker difference between a pug and a shepherd, yet, they're within the same subspecies.
Problem with this example again is that dog breeds do not fit the criteria of subspecies. This means that dog breeds differ drastically in their appearance and other characteristics, while most of their genomes are still very much alike.
Yes it does fit the criteria. Dog breeds are more strict in fact, but just focusing on one subspecies to another, compare that pug from the dog subspecies to another subspecies of wolf... the Dingo.
Quote from: Engineer on Aug 06, 2023, 10:29:10 PMYes it does fit the criteria. Dog breeds are more strict in fact, but just focusing on one subspecies to another, compare that pug from the dog subspecies to another subspecies of wolf... the Dingo.
You're comparing something that evolved in the wild to something that's been intentionally bred with compounding deformities that would've gone extinct in nature long ago. You're kind of proving the point there -- that kind of variation doesn't really happen naturally and is only achieved through concerted effort.
Although if anyone wants to argue that Feral is just a Predator pug bred for shits and giggles I'm all ears.
Quote from: SiL on Aug 06, 2023, 11:04:32 PMQuote from: Engineer on Aug 06, 2023, 10:29:10 PMYes it does fit the criteria. Dog breeds are more strict in fact, but just focusing on one subspecies to another, compare that pug from the dog subspecies to another subspecies of wolf... the Dingo.
You're comparing something that evolved in the wild to something that's been intentionally bred with compounding deformities that would've gone extinct in nature long ago. You're kind of proving the point there -- that kind of variation doesn't really happen naturally and is only achieved through concerted effort.
It doesn't matter how the diversity developed. It only matters that the diversity exists. Dogs are one real world example. It can happen. It does happen. The 'how' is irrelevant. Fill in the gaps; use your head canon or whatever lol predators selectively bred themselves to have diversified subspecies, if that's what works for you...
Also I used pug because it's a pretty extreme difference. Bloodhounds would be about as extreme of a difference if you like that breed better. Bloodhound vs. dingo. Great Dane vs. dingo. Saint Bernard vs. dingo. Take your pick. Lots of dog breeds to choose from here.
Quote from: Engineer on Aug 07, 2023, 12:00:56 AMIt doesn't matter how the diversity developed.
Of course it does, if we're talking about something that's being presented as a naturally occurring variation. Most of the extreme differences are not beneficial to the dogs themselves and wouldn't have been kept in the gene pool.
If Feral is deformed or a specially bred version, then whatever. They clearly just wanted something different and there was very little need for it to look so radical outside of reinventing the wheel.
Quote from: SiL on Aug 07, 2023, 12:31:38 AMQuote from: Engineer on Aug 07, 2023, 12:00:56 AMIt doesn't matter how the diversity developed.
Of course it does, if we're talking about something that's being presented as a naturally occurring variation. Most of the extreme differences are not beneficial to the dogs themselves and wouldn't have been kept in the gene pool.
If Feral is deformed or a specially bred version, then whatever. They clearly just wanted something different and there was very little need for it to look so radical outside of reinventing the wheel.
The movie never says it's naturally occurring, nor does it say it was artificially bred that way. They just show us he looks different, and the concept artist just added his exposition that he intended for it to be a subspecies. You can fill in the rest with your own head canon for how or why, hence why it doesn't matter. What matters is feral was different, we see it, and yes, you can have that kind of diversity between subspecies making it possible one way or the other.
I know. The film just wanted new for the sake of new and threw in a weak post hoc explanation behind the scenes.
I agree with Turok's overall assessment - they just wanted to reinvent the wheel, using a stack of tired design tropes to make it different, and it doesn't really gel as a Predator.
You could've had Feral's design in a completely unrelated movie and be forgiven for just thinking it was a brazen knock-off.
Quote from: Engineer on Aug 07, 2023, 12:41:03 AMQuote from: SiL on Aug 07, 2023, 12:31:38 AMQuote from: Engineer on Aug 07, 2023, 12:00:56 AMIt doesn't matter how the diversity developed.
Of course it does, if we're talking about something that's being presented as a naturally occurring variation. Most of the extreme differences are not beneficial to the dogs themselves and wouldn't have been kept in the gene pool.
If Feral is deformed or a specially bred version, then whatever. They clearly just wanted something different and there was very little need for it to look so radical outside of reinventing the wheel.
The movie never says it's naturally occurring, nor does it say it was artificially bred that way. They just show us he looks different, and the concept artist just added his exposition that he intended for it to be a subspecies.
Which is by then considered canon. It's exposition said by a member of the team and not contradicted by Dan or any other lead creator in the behind the scenes. It cannot get much clearer than that.
Again, going with SiL, it has no real justification of being that radically different. No absolute real need to change the face that drastically as if people will get tired of the Predator design somehow. If anything I keep hearing from the fanbase is to keep true to the OG design without drastic changes, have proper mandibles, and have it be a genuine threat to the main characters in the story again.
https://twitter.com/nunosarnadas/status/1688229966712848384
Quote from: ace3g on Aug 07, 2023, 01:31:51 PMhttps://twitter.com/nunosarnadas/status/1688229966712848384
If I had to choose between No Man's Land and WWII, I would go No Man's Land UNLESS if WWII takes place in the Pacific theatre. Has the perfect combination of heat, conflict, and jungle environmental factors.
Free screening! 💥 PREY (2022) / PREDATOR (1987) + Q&A with Emmy Nominated Team, filmmaker Dan Trachtenberg @dannytrs, producer Jhane Myers @thejhane, editor Angela Catanzaro @angelacatz, ACE & co-supervising sound editors William Files @sounddroid, MPSE & Chris Terhune! 🤩
Sun. Aug. 20th at 6:30 pm at the Aero.
Free 🍿 & 🥤 courtesy of @20thcenturystudios!
https://twitter.com/DannyTRS/status/1694416660424511735
This team really needs to get back together at least one more time
https://twitter.com/DannyTRS/status/1694418370668663177
I was there, making it my 3rd theater viewing! Was a nice surprise seeing Feral waiting in the lobby. I also recorded the Q&A in full. It had a few bits I hadn't heard before. Trying to have it up on my YT channel tonight or tomorrow at the latest. Will share when it's live.
Looking good Choom!
They did a great job on that statue! Still think he's one of the best looks with the mask on!
An ADI assistant was there keeping watch on Feral so nobody got handsy with him or broke anything. He'd mentioned that a lot of that statue is actually screen used, and that it is a suit. Didn't get exact details on how, but the little pieces like skulls and stuff, or the gauntlets could definitely pass as screen used.
My Q&A video is taking a long time to export and my computer keeps giving me errors. But when it's up I'll share the link here. I'll have all my b-roll I shots of the statue which shows off all the little details. The thing was so impressive!
They also took off the mask for me, which they say they don't do often. So you'll get to see the insides and all. It's one of the masks that light up like originally planned, but they'd said the light would only show up in complete darkness, so I don't have that to show off.
Pretty cool.
Took 10 years to export and upload, but it's finally up and ready. 36 or so minutes of it is the Q&A, while I put all the footage I shot of Feral's statue over top. There's some tidbits of good info in the Q&A that were news to me.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZVzEwWi7glw
Threw together a quick little Short with most of my footage of the Feral suit to have it all in one spot:
https://youtube.com/shorts/NCygK9OofRY?si=BZexwhUn4BsqrH2t
https://twitter.com/steveasbell/status/1707109136041935221
Oohhh, posed differently than the statue I saw at the Emmy screening a few weeks back!
I just realized Sarii is the Comanche word for dog lol. I completely dropped the ball and thought that was just his name in the film. It's curious though, why does she just call him dog instead of giving him a proper name?
Quote from: (Bad Blood) on Sep 27, 2023, 11:16:10 PMI just realized Sarii is the Comanche word for dog lol. I completely dropped the ball and thought that was just his name in the film. It's curious though, why does she just call him dog instead of giving him a proper name?
To be honest if I had a dog his name would just be Dog too.
Quote from: [cancerblack] on Sep 28, 2023, 10:08:03 AMQuote from: (Bad Blood) on Sep 27, 2023, 11:16:10 PMI just realized Sarii is the Comanche word for dog lol. I completely dropped the ball and thought that was just his name in the film. It's curious though, why does she just call him dog instead of giving him a proper name?
To be honest if I had a dog his name would just be Dog too.
Even a pit bull?
No, of course not. If I had one of those it'd be called "put down at the vet".
Quote from: [cancerblack] on Sep 28, 2023, 10:08:03 AMQuote from: (Bad Blood) on Sep 27, 2023, 11:16:10 PMI just realized Sarii is the Comanche word for dog lol. I completely dropped the ball and thought that was just his name in the film. It's curious though, why does she just call him dog instead of giving him a proper name?
To be honest if I had a dog his name would just be Dog too.
When I was a kid, I had a lizard named Liz so I can relate to the sentiment lol. Perhaps it was more surprising from a creative perspective to me that the director just was like "hey! What's the Comanche word for dog?" Assistant: "Sarii" Dan: "Ok cool! Let's use that!"
Heh nice. I had a big spider called Spidey too as a young'un.
Quote from: [cancerblack] on Sep 28, 2023, 11:14:03 AMHeh nice. I had a big spider called Spidey too as a young'un.
Should've been Shelob.
There was a female one who lived in a window sill for several years we called shelob. I didn't actually realise house spiders could live that long til then.
https://twitter.com/ultrahdbluray/status/1712929113177038872?s=46
https://www.instagram.com/p/CwynGu9pmS3/?hl=fr (https://www.instagram.com/p/CwynGu9pmS3/?hl=fr)
Does anyone know where I can find this Feral photo? The one on the first slide, I don't remember seeing it anywhere until now and it looks great!
Quote from: Mike's Monsters on Oct 14, 2023, 06:56:54 AMhttps://twitter.com/ultrahdbluray/status/1712929113177038872?s=46
I said earlier Disney was leaving money on the table and under-cutting their own revenue with their streaming-only approach. Glad to be proven right. Also pleased Disney has finally saw the commercial potential of this particular physical release and Prey topping the sales chart is proof they can correct their mistakes.
Netflix probably has a vested interest to terminate DVD and Blu-rays as an alternative source for movie releases. That way, they can seize a lion's share of remaining "options" to watch a movie. But as streaming losses rack up at the other studios, its proof there is still life left in physical releases.
Quote from: Preydator on Oct 23, 2023, 09:19:36 AMhttps://www.instagram.com/p/CwynGu9pmS3/?hl=fr (https://www.instagram.com/p/CwynGu9pmS3/?hl=fr)
Does anyone know where I can find this Feral photo? The one on the first slide, I don't remember seeing it anywhere until now and it looks great!
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I feel like this was on a Fangoria magazine cover. Looks like a comic style variant of this photo.
**Which was a poster they gave fans at Otawa Comic-con this year.
(https://scontent-hou1-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t39.30808-6/383775930_18388142485004866_9200510288376923337_n.jpg?_nc_cat=101&ccb=1-7&_nc_sid=5f2048&_nc_ohc=t_0VNNOb_LEAX_gl-cC&_nc_ht=scontent-hou1-1.xx&oh=00_AfDc2spNl0PKcW2H4WUyAw4Bpr0i2jVpc5Ir2G3Bcbvzvw&oe=653D8EB1)
Hot Toys just dropped solicitation photos:
https://www.instagram.com/p/Cyzs1GVv9a8/?img_index=1
Quote from: ace3g on Oct 25, 2023, 03:21:34 AMQuote from: Preydator on Oct 23, 2023, 09:19:36 AMhttps://www.instagram.com/p/CwynGu9pmS3/?hl=fr (https://www.instagram.com/p/CwynGu9pmS3/?hl=fr)
Does anyone know where I can find this Feral photo? The one on the first slide, I don't remember seeing it anywhere until now and it looks great!
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I feel like this was on a Fangoria magazine cover. Looks like a comic style variant of this photo.
**Which was a poster they gave fans at Otawa Comic-con this year.
https://scontent-hou1-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t39.30808-6/383775930_18388142485004866_9200510288376923337_n.jpg?_nc_cat=101&ccb=1-7&_nc_sid=5f2048&_nc_ohc=t_0VNNOb_LEAX_gl-cC&_nc_ht=scontent-hou1-1.xx&oh=00_AfDc2spNl0PKcW2H4WUyAw4Bpr0i2jVpc5Ir2G3Bcbvzvw&oe=653D8EB1
Here is the full autographed photo.
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Quote from: Mike's Monsters on Oct 25, 2023, 05:30:10 AMHot Toys just dropped solicitation photos:
https://www.instagram.com/p/Cyzs1GVv9a8/?img_index=1
Was thinking of signing up for an RSVP on Sideshow, but not fully committed on buying it when it becomes available. Are you getting it?
Quote from: Master Chief on Oct 26, 2023, 03:27:59 PMQuote from: Mike's Monsters on Oct 25, 2023, 05:30:10 AMHot Toys just dropped solicitation photos:
https://www.instagram.com/p/Cyzs1GVv9a8/?img_index=1
Was thinking of signing up for an RSVP on Sideshow, but not fully committed on buying it when it becomes available. Are you getting it?
I really want it, but at the moment have no space for anything of that scale. And the price is going to probably be too much for me at the moment. I've got some thinking to do.
:P
https://twitter.com/steveasbell/status/1732862362276028833?s=46
UPDATE
https://twitter.com/dannytrs/status/1732877777492410741?s=46
Quote from: Mike's Monsters on Dec 07, 2023, 09:07:57 PM:P
https://twitter.com/steveasbell/status/1732862362276028833?s=46
UPDATE
https://twitter.com/dannytrs/status/1732877777492410741?s=46
chuckled merrily at these posts.
also we can totally read into the 'holding off the announcement' bit
Quote from: ace3g on Oct 28, 2023, 06:40:44 AMhttps://www.instagram.com/p/Cy2-HCJRzcx/
I said to hell with it and preordered.
Dunno if this is old but I just saw it.
https://twitter.com/horror4kids/status/1767900232614805888?s=46&t=My2uIyG1oFntJxRW2VkPlQ
It is very sweet either way.
What a nice doggie
You know what I just found out, and this may expose my ignorance, the dog in The Road Warrior was also adopted from a shelter specifically for the production and in the movie was simply named Dog. I just thought that was cool, whether or not it's a coincidence. The fact that Dan's next Pred movie is under the working title "Badlands" makes it even more fun.
Quote from: RoguePred1987 on Mar 15, 2024, 01:26:22 AMYou know what I just found out, and this may expose my ignorance, the dog in The Road Warrior was also adopted from a shelter specifically for the production and in the movie was simply named Dog. I just thought that was cool, whether or not it's a coincidence. The fact that Dan's next Pred movie is under the working title "Badlands" makes it even more fun.
Not specifically about the shelter bit, but
The Road Warrior was definitely on Trachtenberg's mind:
According to director Dan Trachtenberg, Sarii's presence in the film was heavily inspired by The Road Warrior, and "Mad" Max Rockatansky's loyal dog companion from that film, known simply as "Dog." So, giving Naru a dog was always part of the plan for Prey. What changed along the way was just how much Sarii would end up being in the film.https://www.syfy.com/syfy-wire/prey-dog-no-acting-experience-before-the-movie
awesome
A user on reddit/twitter has posted images and video of what they are claiming is the NECA cloaked "bear blood" Feral Predator from Prey. In their posting they claimed they went to multiple Target stores and it was the only one they found. Anyone else have any word on these getting out?
**EDIT**
Just heard from a guy online who found one at his local Target, after calling several others who didn't have it.
**EDIT 2**
I decided to ride my bike the 7 miles out to the nearest Target by me, sadly no Feral. But I saw another person claiming to find one by them. So it certainly seems like this might be real.
Quote from: E. Shaw on Mar 31, 2024, 06:32:17 PMQuote from: ace3g on Oct 28, 2023, 06:40:44 AMhttps://www.instagram.com/p/Cy2-HCJRzcx/
Feral is one bad to the bone Predator.
Bad to the bone
*Guitar Sounds
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already got my preorder for the Hot Toys figure in at Sideshow. 8)
Quote from: Thatguy2068 on Mar 31, 2024, 06:47:45 PMQuote from: E. Shaw on Mar 31, 2024, 06:32:17 PMQuote from: ace3g on Oct 28, 2023, 06:40:44 AMhttps://www.instagram.com/p/Cy2-HCJRzcx/
Feral is one bad to the bone Predator.
Bad to the bone
*Guitar Sounds
⣿⣿⣿⣿⠟⠉⠙⠁⠀⠉⠉⢉⡉⠉⠛⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿
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⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⡦⡿⣿⣾⣧⣍⡟⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿
⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⡏⡇⡿⡇⣿⣿⣿⣴⡥⠙⢿⣿⣿⢿⣯⣿⣿⣟⡿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿
⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣟⠢⣿⣟⣿⣻⣹⣿⣿⡄⢲⣼⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣷⣽⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿
⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⠗⣿⠦⣹⠿⡍⣿⣿⣷⣿⡿⣟⢿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⢿⣇⢻⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿
⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⡄⣿⠃⣿⠓⣷⣿⢻⣿⣿⣄⣟⡕⡉⠛⢛⣿⢻⣟⢞⡞⡨⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿
⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⡇⣿⣘⣿⢸⣿⡀⣿⣿⣟⣧⡣⡙⣍⠒⠨⣟⣥⣙⢽⡌⢽⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿
⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣷⣨⣼⣿⣾⣿⣏⢻⣿⢾⣑⣝⢞⣓⣠⡄⠛⠗⡷⡳⣜⣽⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿
⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣅⠉⠹⢿⣿⣿⣾⣯⠚⢳⡝⢵⡉⠆⠀⠀⢀⣟⢰⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿
⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣩⣠⣾⣿⣿⣿⣧⣝⢇⢟⡺⣐⠀⡀⣀⣩⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿
⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣾⣼⣼⣬⣽⣽⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿
Again this looks like you had a stroke and collapsed into your keyboard when viewed on mobile :laugh:
It's a Doot Doot on PC.
Quote from: Thatguy2068 on Mar 31, 2024, 06:47:45 PMQuote from: E. Shaw on Mar 31, 2024, 06:32:17 PMQuote from: ace3g on Oct 28, 2023, 06:40:44 AMhttps://www.instagram.com/p/Cy2-HCJRzcx/
Feral is one bad to the bone Predator.
Bad to the bone
*Guitar Sounds
⣿⣿⣿⣿⠟⠉⠙⠁⠀⠉⠉⢉⡉⠉⠛⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿
⣿⡿⠟⠁⢀⠀⠉⠀⠀⠐⠀⠀⠙⠄⠀⠘⢻⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿
⣿⠀⡐⠀⠊⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠊⠀⠀⠦⠻⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿
⣿⠀⢒⠃⠈⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⢀⠀⢔⡢⡙⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿
⣿⣆⢺⢚⠄⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠐⢰⢝⠋⢷⡈⢻⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿
⣿⣿⣿⡓⢏⠒⠂⠀⠀⠀⠀⢀⠀⠀⠁⠈⠋⣲⣾⣿⣏⢹⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿
⣿⣿⣿⣿⣌⠧⣂⢡⡀⠀⡀⢡⢄⠑⠀⠌⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿
⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⡞⡽⢉⣯⣬⣷⣴⣿⠾⣀⣩⡸⣿⣿⣿⣿⠁⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⢹⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⠿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿
⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣧⠀⢸⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣇⢹⣷⣿⣿⣿⡿⢣⣿⣿⣿⡟⣛⠛⢸⣿⠟⠛⢿⣿⠟⠛⠻⣿⣛⠀⣛⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿
⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⡿⣧⣸⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⡟⢘⣿⣿⣹⣼⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⢰⣿⣿⢸⡇⢸⣿⠀⣿⢰⣿⡇⣻⣿⠀⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿
⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣯⣝⠮⣽⣟⣋⣼⣤⢌⣿⣿⣿⣾⣟⣿⣿⣿⣿⣦⣙⣁⣸⣷⣌⣋⣴⣿⣌⣋⣴⡟⢿⣀⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿
⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⡝⣻⡿⠿⠛⠠⣟⠙⢋⡈⡦⣿⣿⣿⣿⣟⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⠿⠻⠇⣾⣿⠿⢿⣿⣿⠿⢿⣿⠿⠀⠛⣿
⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣦⢿⣷⣤⣒⡆⠽⢞⣢⣴⣿⣿⡿⡿⣾⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⠃⣾⣷⠀⣿⢡⣷⡆⢻⢃⣾⡆⢹⣿⡆⢿⣿
⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⢿⠃⣿⣿⣿⣼⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣆⡙⠛⠁⣿⡈⠛⢁⣿⣌⠛⢃⣾⣿⡇⣸⣿
⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣏⣥⣠⣬⣿⣻⣸⣸⣿⠟⢾⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿
⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⡦⡿⣿⣾⣧⣍⡟⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿
⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⡏⡇⡿⡇⣿⣿⣿⣴⡥⠙⢿⣿⣿⢿⣯⣿⣿⣟⡿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿
⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣟⠢⣿⣟⣿⣻⣹⣿⣿⡄⢲⣼⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣷⣽⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿
⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⠗⣿⠦⣹⠿⡍⣿⣿⣷⣿⡿⣟⢿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⢿⣇⢻⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿
⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⡄⣿⠃⣿⠓⣷⣿⢻⣿⣿⣄⣟⡕⡉⠛⢛⣿⢻⣟⢞⡞⡨⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿
⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⡇⣿⣘⣿⢸⣿⡀⣿⣿⣟⣧⡣⡙⣍⠒⠨⣟⣥⣙⢽⡌⢽⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿
⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣷⣨⣼⣿⣾⣿⣏⢻⣿⢾⣑⣝⢞⣓⣠⡄⠛⠗⡷⡳⣜⣽⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿
⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣅⠉⠹⢿⣿⣿⣾⣯⠚⢳⡝⢵⡉⠆⠀⠀⢀⣟⢰⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿
⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣩⣠⣾⣿⣿⣿⣧⣝⢇⢟⡺⣐⠀⡀⣀⣩⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿
⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣾⣼⣼⣬⣽⣽⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿
(https://media.tenor.com/xoO9Rtvcq8IAAAAM/star-wars-anakin.gif)
Quote from: SiL on Mar 31, 2024, 09:32:38 PMQuote from: Thatguy2068 on Mar 31, 2024, 06:47:45 PMQuote from: E. Shaw on Mar 31, 2024, 06:32:17 PMQuote from: ace3g on Oct 28, 2023, 06:40:44 AMhttps://www.instagram.com/p/Cy2-HCJRzcx/
Feral is one bad to the bone Predator.
Bad to the bone
*Guitar Sounds
⣿⣿⣿⣿⠟⠉⠙⠁⠀⠉⠉⢉⡉⠉⠛⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿
⣿⡿⠟⠁⢀⠀⠉⠀⠀⠐⠀⠀⠙⠄⠀⠘⢻⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿
⣿⠀⡐⠀⠊⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠊⠀⠀⠦⠻⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿
⣿⠀⢒⠃⠈⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⢀⠀⢔⡢⡙⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿
⣿⣆⢺⢚⠄⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠐⢰⢝⠋⢷⡈⢻⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿
⣿⣿⣿⡓⢏⠒⠂⠀⠀⠀⠀⢀⠀⠀⠁⠈⠋⣲⣾⣿⣏⢹⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿
⣿⣿⣿⣿⣌⠧⣂⢡⡀⠀⡀⢡⢄⠑⠀⠌⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿
⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⡞⡽⢉⣯⣬⣷⣴⣿⠾⣀⣩⡸⣿⣿⣿⣿⠁⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⢹⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⠿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿
⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣧⠀⢸⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣇⢹⣷⣿⣿⣿⡿⢣⣿⣿⣿⡟⣛⠛⢸⣿⠟⠛⢿⣿⠟⠛⠻⣿⣛⠀⣛⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿
⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⡿⣧⣸⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⡟⢘⣿⣿⣹⣼⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⢰⣿⣿⢸⡇⢸⣿⠀⣿⢰⣿⡇⣻⣿⠀⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿
⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣯⣝⠮⣽⣟⣋⣼⣤⢌⣿⣿⣿⣾⣟⣿⣿⣿⣿⣦⣙⣁⣸⣷⣌⣋⣴⣿⣌⣋⣴⡟⢿⣀⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿
⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⡝⣻⡿⠿⠛⠠⣟⠙⢋⡈⡦⣿⣿⣿⣿⣟⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⠿⠻⠇⣾⣿⠿⢿⣿⣿⠿⢿⣿⠿⠀⠛⣿
⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣦⢿⣷⣤⣒⡆⠽⢞⣢⣴⣿⣿⡿⡿⣾⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⠃⣾⣷⠀⣿⢡⣷⡆⢻⢃⣾⡆⢹⣿⡆⢿⣿
⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⢿⠃⣿⣿⣿⣼⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣆⡙⠛⠁⣿⡈⠛⢁⣿⣌⠛⢃⣾⣿⡇⣸⣿
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Again this looks like you had a stroke and collapsed into your keyboard when viewed on mobile :laugh:
Just turn your phone on it side then I'll fix it
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z_AdWX-mqr4Yep, they're officially out there. Seeing reviews popping up on Youtube.
This is probably the first time I've ever seen a transparent/cloaked figure that I thought looked really cool.
good movie. Entertaining
I wasn't initially planning on buying this, but I happened upon it while browsing at Target, and seeing it in the packaging made me change my mind immediately. Very cool figure and box!
(https://i.postimg.cc/rpqLdCK0/GKh7-Duq-X0-AESy-GC.jpg)(https://i.postimg.cc/8CwgLJ6y/GKh7-Duv-Wc-AALOZq.jpg)
I've already preordered the Hot Toys figure so i was going to skip the NECA releases, but I'm now officially on the lookout for this.
Quote from: Cosmic Incubation on Apr 08, 2024, 03:58:33 PMI wasn't initially planning on buying this, but I happened upon it while browsing at Target, and seeing it in the packaging made me change my mind immediately. Very cool figure and box!
(https://i.postimg.cc/rpqLdCK0/GKh7-Duq-X0-AESy-GC.jpg)(https://i.postimg.cc/8CwgLJ6y/GKh7-Duv-Wc-AALOZq.jpg)
I'm usually not a fan of toys etc, but this one looks really cool.